Ep. 180 - The Despicable Campaign Against Covington Catholic Boys
Today on the show, a group of Catholic school boys have been hideously defamed and slandered and smeared all over the internet and the media. We will sort through this issue and figure out who the real bad guys are in the situation. Also, a company responds to that Gillette ad with an ad of their own, and it’s pretty great. Finally, I’ll answer some of your emails. Date: 01-21-2019
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Today on The Matt Walsh Show, a group of Catholic schoolboys have been hideously defamed and slandered and smeared all over the internet and the media.
We are going to sort through this issue and figure out who the real bad guys are in this situation.
Also, a company responds to that stupid Gillette ad with an ad of their own, which I think is pretty fantastic.
And finally, I'll answer some of your emails today on The Matt Wall Show.
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Okay, I want to get to a story that just absolutely Infuriates me.
I can't tell you how angry I am by this.
I've just been like stewing over it for the last 24 hours.
If you were on social media at all this weekend, you probably already heard about it.
If you were not on social media, maybe you didn't hear about it.
And also if you weren't on social media this weekend, I think that you made a very good choice.
A choice that I wish that I had made.
So the story revolves around A bunch of kids from Covington Catholic High School in Covington, Kentucky.
They were in D.C.
for the March for Life, which of course happened on Friday, and there was a great turnout for that, by the way.
You're not going to hear about that from the media.
We heard plenty about this incident that we'll talk about, but very little about the hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people that were marching for the unborn the day before.
So these kids, they were in DC for the March for Life on Friday, and then on Saturday they were supposed to board their buses and go back to Kentucky.
So they were in downtown again, apparently waiting for their bus so they could board and go home.
Now, that's when the incident occurred.
And the incident, according to the initial media reports, involved only these kids and a group of Native Americans led by a guy named Nathan Phillips.
And the Native Americans were in D.C.
for, apparently, an Indigenous Peoples' March, which was happening the day after the March for Life.
The original story went viral on Saturday and it was that the kids randomly swarmed this group of Native Americans and started berating and heckling them and mocking them and taunting and threatening them, not letting them leave.
Um, while the Native Americans were simply just playing the drums and singing a spiritual song.
So this was just a, according to the initial story, which went viral, this was a straightforward, blatant case of, of, you know, privileged white boys acting in an outlandishly racist manner.
And that's what millions of people believed, that's what the media reported, that's what many prominent folks on both sides of the political aisle said.
But I'll tell you, when I first heard the story, And look, I'm not spiking the football because a lot of people got this wrong and I didn't kind of thing.
I'm just saying, here was my thought process.
I went online briefly on Saturday.
I heard about this story.
And my first thought was, what?
It just didn't make sense to me.
It didn't sound believable.
I'm not saying that it sounded impossible, but it didn't sound believable or necessarily plausible that a group of Catholic high school boys would just randomly start berating Native Americans for no reason.
That's the kind of thing that you think is plausible if you have a cartoonish idea of human nature, and especially of white teenage boys.
But maybe it's because I used to be a white teenage boy, and So, I can think back to then, and it's just, I can't imagine, like, you're in D.C.
with a bunch of your friends, and then you see some Native Americans over there, and you say, hey, let's go over there and taunt them, guys!
Come on!
Hey, fellas, let's go do something racist!
Um, that's just, it doesn't re- I'm not saying it's impossible that that could happen, it just, it just seems very, very unlikely.
That's just not how people act.
Right?
Uh, but, There was allegedly video of the incident.
Video that shows—that's what the media said.
The media said the video shows high school boys harassing Native Americans.
And the video was a short clip, it turns out, of a much longer Piece of footage.
Of course, the longer piece of footage didn't surface magically until like 24 hours later after the kids had already been getting death threats and were facing possible expulsion and had been denounced hither and yon.
So let me show you.
This is what the short clip looked like.
This is the clip that most people saw on Saturday and that engendered all of this outrage.
It sure does.
I'm so confused.
Okay, so a lot of people saw that video out of context and concluded that it definitely
shows high school boys harassing Native Americans.
I watched it on Saturday when there was, well, there's footage, so I watched it.
And I, I didn't really, I didn't see it.
I didn't see what everyone was claiming.
Even out of context, it just, I didn't see, it looks weird.
It looks strange.
It looks like the kind of video that screams out of context.
I mean, there might as well be a giant neon sign in the background of the video saying, this is out of context.
Because you see that and you think, there's got to be more to that.
Even if the boys are the bad guys here.
How did this even come up?
What was the scenario where these two groups even met?
These are just obvious questions that people should ask.
And very few people did.
Also, it was claimed, initially, that the boys were chanting, build the wall at the Native Americans.
Well, again, you watch that clip of the video, they're not chanting that.
That's not in the video.
Which should be a giant red flag, right?
If there's a viral story saying that this or that happened, and hey, there's a video to go with it, and the video doesn't match up with the story, Well, that's a red flag.
Because, again, it shows you that, at the very least, there's more to this that didn't make it on the video.
So, personally, on Saturday, I saw the video, I heard the story, and so I just, I didn't say anything about it.
I didn't chime in.
I gave no opinion, for or against the students, because I had no idea what was going on.
It seemed, you know, it's possible that the kids were in the wrong, but, or maybe they aren't, but I just, I had no idea, so I didn't say anything.
But there were a lot of people who felt like they did have a pretty good idea, so these kids were slandered and defamed and doxed and threatened for a full 24 hours.
And they were even denounced by the mayor of their town, denounced by millions of others, including very prominent, powerful, influential people in the media and celebrities and so on, before finally this full story emerges, a much longer video surfaced.
As usually happens with these sorts of situations.
One of the longer videos is over an hour long and was shot apparently by a member of a group called the Black Hebrew Israelites.
Now the Black Hebrew Israelites are a very important group in this whole situation.
But nobody even heard about them until a day later.
And by the way, the Black Hebrew Israelites, the BHI, we'll call them, they are essentially cult members.
They're radical fringe people who think that they're descendants of the Israelites
and they hate everyone, okay?
This is their whole shtick.
They stand on street corners and they shout slurs at random passersby.
I've seen them myself downtown.
I've been downtown and seen these people set up with their little display
just screaming at pedestrians who happen to be walking by,
screaming offensive things oftentimes.
So in the video, their video, You hear them screaming insults at random people.
The video goes on for like an hour before we even see the students.
And they're screaming insults at random people for a while.
They're even insulting Native Americans.
They call them idol worshippers, totem pole worshippers, and these sorts of things.
So they're insulting everyone.
They're shouting anti-gay slurs.
I mean, this is not the group that you would think leftists would want to defend.
Then, finally, this group of people, they set their sights on the white kids who were standing around waiting for the bus.
The Cumming team kids.
And they, the black radicals, start hurling insults at the kids, calling them incest children, calling them crackers.
At other points, call them future school shooters, tell them they should go back to Europe.
They, as I said, they're using anti-gay slurs, the f-word, the gay slur f-word.
And so the kids...
respond to this provocation by just kind of trying to drown out the slurs with laughter.
And they start doing these kind of like pep rally style school cheers.
And at one point, one of the kids, I mean, you know, they're teenage boys.
So one of the kids takes his shirt off and starts kind of like dancing as if they're at a football game or something like that.
And so everyone, they're just, they all have smiles on their faces.
They're doing their cheers, their school cheers.
They're laughing and singing and sort of dancing, responding to the hate with positivity.
Now, this seems like, if you're, you know, in that situation and you've got these people shouting slurs at you, that seems like a perfectly good way to respond.
The point is, they didn't respond in kind.
They didn't respond by shouting slurs, much less racial slurs, back at the black Hebrew Israelites.
Instead, they just kind of, like I said, they try to drown it out.
This goes on for a while, until finally, this Native American group comes in.
Now remember, the original story was that the white kids, I guess, tracked down these Native Americans, found them, and surrounded them, and accosted them, verbally.
But then you see the video.
And you see that the white kids are in the process of being verbally accosted by the black Hebrew Israelites, and then the Native American group comes in and walks up to the white kids playing the drums in their faces.
And while this is happening, the black Israelites are still shouting slurs.
Someone tells us that someone tells the kids to go back to Europe and so on.
But the kids, they just continue their strategy of kind of keeping it positive, staying above the fray.
They're doing their school cheers.
I never, I watched the video.
I watched the full video.
I never heard anyone chant, build the wall.
Maybe somebody said that, but there was never a point where the whole group was chanting build the wall, which is what Nathan Phillips claimed.
And then that's the incident.
Okay, so that's it.
That's what happened.
It was provoked by the black Israelites who were racially harassing a group of white kids.
Then the Native American group comes in and tries to provoke things even further.
It's clear that that's what they're doing.
Now, there are some people claiming now that, oh, you know, they were trying to settle things down.
Really, that's how you de-escalate a situation?
You come into the middle of it and start banging drums in the kids' faces?
That's de-escalation?
No, it's very clear to me, watching it, that what Nathan Phillips was trying to do was provoke them even more.
And actually, he failed.
And if there was any doubt about what his motivation was, well, all we have to do is look at what he said after the fact.
Because after this whole incident, that again, he inserted himself into, He immediately went to the media and blatantly lied about the situation.
He called the white kids beasts.
Okay, you're not hearing this in the media.
He called them beasts and said that they were harassing the group of black people.
He painted the white kids as the aggressors and the instigators in the situation.
He said that he heroically put himself in between beasts and their prey.
And then he said in a separate interview that the kids surrounded him and that they wouldn't let him leave and he felt threatened.
He said they were chanting, build the wall at him.
These are just lies, okay?
They are lies contradicted by the video evidence.
He is a liar.
This is a hands-up, don't-shoot level lie.
Nathan Phillips apparently is a scam artist who played half the country.
A bunch of people just fell for it.
The media ate it up, reported it as fact, uncritically.
And these kids have been smeared all over the internet and cable news because of it.
The main kid that was featured in the video, the one smiling at Phillips, wrote a statement and explained his side of the story.
Here's the crucial thing.
His side of the story is exactly what the video shows.
His side of the story lines up with what you see in the video.
The other version, the version we got from Phillips, does not line up with the video evidence and never did.
And also, Philip's version of the story, as a secondary issue, doesn't line up with common sense.
So it doesn't even make sense, and also it doesn't work with the video.
But then we have the video, and it just so happens that the reports we're getting from the kids matches up.
So I think we basically know what happened here.
Okay, so what have we learned from this?
I think most people probably have learned absolutely nothing.
But if you are a more observant sort of person, What could you learn from this incident?
I think a few things.
Number one, and this is very important, your social media hot take can wait for a day or two.
We all seem to be under this very mistaken impression that the world will stop rotating on its axis if we don't immediately offer our own two cents on every event the moment it transpires.
And there are many otherwise intelligent people who have made fools of themselves, myself included in other cases, because they felt the need to voice an opinion on an issue as soon as it came to their attention without waiting to actually find out what happened.
But there isn't much good that can come of it.
There isn't really any good that can come out of an opinion that's just sort of dashed off and published in a hurry as if to meet some sort of deadline because you want to be in that first wave of opinion about something that happened.
There's nothing good that can come of it.
The most you can hope for is something is neutral, that it will just have no effect.
But there's no scenario where some sort of really good thing happens.
Because even if you're right in that first wave of opinion, Even if you happen to take the right point of view, which will be really just a matter of luck, because you had no idea what all the facts were, so you just happened to get it right.
But even if you're right, your perspective is redundant and useless, because everyone else is already saying that.
That's the stupid thing about the mass outrage that you see on the Internet.
Aside from any of the ethical or moral concerns, which are primary, but secondary, What's even the point?
Like, if you see a video like this, even if, let's just say that the video was not misrepresented, and these kids really are guilty of being racist, obnoxious jerks, and, you know, 10 million people have already chimed in saying, well, they're racist and obnoxious.
Why do you even need to be, why do you need to be the 10 million and one voice?
10 million other people have already said it, so you need to say it too?
Yes, I also agree that they are obnoxious.
Hey everybody, just so you know, I agree with what 10 million people have already said.
So at best, you're just repeating what everyone else has said, so your opinion is useless.
At worst, you are going to be a contributing member of mass hysteria.
You are going to be part of a pitchfork mob.
So why not wait?
Everyone can survive without your opinion for a few hours.
Everyone can survive without your opinion forever, and without mine.
That's the other thing.
None of our opinions actually matter that much.
I hate to be the one to break it to you.
You've never said anything on the internet that really made that much of a difference.
I'm in the same cab.
It's like nobody really cares that much anyway.
Which just, which I'm not saying that, it doesn't mean that we should stop giving our, obviously I'm giving my opinion right now, but it doesn't mean we stop giving our opinion, but it just means that you, you, we can all afford to wait for a minute because it doesn't matter that much.
Um, so you might as well hold off and, uh, uh, so that you don't embarrass yourself.
And also, by the way, so that you don't participate in the defamation of an innocent person accidentally.
So, there is no downside to taking your time before offering a point of view.
There is enormous downside to jumping the gun.
Second thing.
And, you know, it's unfortunate that this even needs to be said, or that this is a lesson that needs to be learned by anyone, but white teenage boys are not evil.
Okay?
Again, like I said, I'm not spiking the football.
I've spoken too soon on many other occasions.
But, I held my tongue on this one when I first heard about it, mainly because I know that white teenage boys don't generally behave like the villains in some sort of socially conscious cartoon.
Okay, they're not cartoon villains.
Maybe you'll come across a white guy, a white teenage boy here or there who does really act like that, but most of them are not.
And what are the chances that you're going to have a whole school filled with racist sociopaths who all happen to be, you know, they all went on a field trip together?
What are the chances of that?
It just, it seems like very unlikely.
But a lot of people had no problem accepting the narrative that was first presented because they really do think, or at least want to think, that white boys carry on this way routinely.
And these are mostly the same people who ate up all the rumors about Kavanaugh because they wanted to believe, they desperately wanted to believe that privileged white teenagers go around casually gang raping women for sport.
But again, with that, it was, yes, there are white teenage boys out there who are that evil, but The idea that you would have a whole group of teenage boys who coordinate with each other to drug and rape women, it's just, it's not impossible, but that is a remarkable claim, which would require some kind of really compelling evidence.
With Kavanaugh, there was no evidence.
And with this most recent incident with the teenagers, there was a little bit of evidence, but the evidence didn't line up with the claim.
So, these false narratives, you know, they tell us nothing about white teenage boys, about young white men.
They do tell us a lot about the members of the Pitchfork Mob.
Namely, it tells us that these people, the people in the Pitchfork Mob, they hate white men.
Hate them.
Especially young ones, and especially Christian ones.
And that's why they were so eager to jump on this.
Because this is really, this shows you, this is what they think.
of a young white man.
This is what they think a young white man is.
So they heard this story about the Covington kids, and they thought to themselves, oh yeah, well sure, that's exactly what white teenage boys do all the time.
And that's why it's been pretty incredible over the last 24 hours or so, as the full story has emerged, as it's become clear that this was a false narrative, that Nathan Phillips lied, and so on, There have still been plenty of people who are clinging, who are acknowledging that there's more to the story now, but they're still clinging to their initial reaction, or at least justifying their initial reaction.
In fact, just to quote here, there was someone, one person on Twitter said that, You know, she said her reaction, she had that reaction because the sight of that face, talking about the teenage boy who was smiling, she said the sight of that face caused a visceral reaction.
So she's admitting that just the sight of a young white man's face is so repulsive to her and so offensive that she can't help but defame and slander him.
It is a knee-jerk reaction.
It's a reflex, she's saying.
That tells you a lot about her.
It tells you absolutely nothing about the boys in question, though.
Third thing we can learn is that the media really is the enemy of the people.
I think Trump was right about that.
The news media is the enemy of the people.
Certain types of people, anyway.
Maybe that's where he got it wrong.
He said, the people.
But not all people.
Only certain types of people.
Because if you happen to be a member of the wrong demographic, The media will eagerly spread lies about you.
They will destroy your life.
They will send the mob to your front door.
They will try to get you kicked out of school, kicked out of your job.
They'll incite threats against your family.
They will tear you to pieces if you are a member of the wrong sort of demographic group.
And you come to their attention.
They will not hesitate to do that to you.
So what else can we call them but enemies?
I mean, this certainly isn't how friends or allies behave, last I checked.
So I am a white, Christian, conservative man.
They are obviously my enemy.
Not because I want them to be.
I'm not saying—or maybe I should rephrase it.
I am their enemy.
And they have made that completely clear.
If there was any kind of video or anything that gave them, a video like this, or any kind of video that gave them an excuse, a reason, the ability to destroy my life, they would not hesitate to do it.
But if I was a member of a different demographic group, or if my politics were a little bit different, they would hesitate.
So I am there, they see me as an enemy.
There's just, there's no getting around that.
And here's the fourth thing, and this is really important.
This is less of a lesson and more of a warning.
Somebody is going to get killed.
Okay?
It's only a matter of time before a victim of one of these media-led smear campaigns winds up dead.
It's going to happen.
And what will the insiders and orchestrators of the outrage mob say then?
What are they going to say?
Are they going to say, oh, we had no idea it would come to this?
Well, yes, you did.
When you put a person's name and face out there, and you tell the world these outlandish lies about them, what do you think is going to happen?
You are basically lighting a match in a forest full of dry, dead leaves.
And if somebody finally gets burned, that's your fault.
And I can only hope when that terrible day comes, that at least a few of the smear merchants will end up in jail, because this is, you know, this is incitement.
This is not free speech.
And in the meantime, and hopefully to stave off this very tragic, but I think inevitable eventuality, we need some, you know, there need to be repercussions, which means that Because unfortunately, most of the people who are targeted in these situations, like these school kids, they don't have a lot of resources.
These are not necessarily going to be millionaires.
So there need to be ethical and generous lawyers who are willing to jump in and come to the defense of the victims pro bono and sue the defamers and insiders into oblivion.
News outlets that run defamatory and libelous reports about innocent people should face severe consequences.
Celebrities like Kathy Griffin, who encouraged her fans to retaliate against these boys, Encourage them to dox him, which is, you know, dig up private information about him and put it out there on the internet, invade his privacy.
Influential, powerful people who do stuff like that, they should be bankrupted by lawsuits.
As I said, this has nothing to do with free speech.
This is libel.
This is incitement.
It's illegal.
And that's how it should be treated.
And if we don't start treating it that way, things are going to get really bad.
And there are going to be very serious consequences.
I should say permanent consequences for somebody one of these days.
All right.
I wanted to mention this very quickly as we spent a lot of last week talking about that Gillette ad which was insulting to men.
This is kind of in the same vein.
This is all part of the same theme.
But a watch company... I was waiting.
I knew that some company would do this.
I was waiting.
I didn't know which company would be the first.
I've never heard of this company.
Eggerd Watch Company put out an ad on YouTube responding to that infamous Gillette ad.
And I think it's pretty good.
good. Here it is. What is a man?
It's a good thing.
Is a man brave?
Is a man... a hero?
Is a man... Is a man a protector?
Is a man a protector?
Is a man vulnerable?
Is a man... disposable?
Is a man broken?
Is a man trying?
We see the good in men.
Okay, I mean, not going to spend a lot of time on this because I've said plenty.
I said probably way more than enough about an ad about a company that makes razors.
So, I'll say I like that ad and you see very clearly the difference there.
Building men up Building up their customer base, which is a smart marketing idea, but just in general, building men up, a positive message, that's also encouraging and challenging.
Saying, you know, this is what a man is.
A man is courageous.
A man's a hero.
A man sacrifices, right?
Which is also a challenge to us as men.
Now, personally, I don't think that I don't feel like I need to be built up or challenged by commercials regardless, but I do appreciate commercials that do it well and have a positive tone, and that's what you find there.
So there's a challenge there, but it's in a positive context saying, this is what a man is, and so if you're a man, that's how you should be.
But the thing is, they don't need to say that last part.
They don't need to say the part of, this is what you should do.
That's already implied.
Through the kind of inspirational message.
So I thought that was great.
All right.
So I've decided that I'm going to try and go to the mailbag, the inbox, I'll call it, just to be unique.
I'll go to the inbox every show, if I remember to anyway, just to give more people kind of a chance to chime in and participate.
So if you want to send an email to me to give your opinion or ask a question or whatever, send an email to mattwalshshow at gmail.com.
And also, if you have inquiries about speaking engagements or media requests or anything, also mattwalshow at gmail.com.
Okay, so let me check.
I got a lot of messages and things over the weekend.
I'll check the inbox.
Jennifer says, Matt, wanted to let you know you are ugly inside and out.
Jennifer, I thank you for that valuable feedback.
Rebecca says, Hi Matt, I love listening to your opinions.
I always look forward to a new video of yours to come out.
I'm a sophomore in an all-girls Catholic high school, and many of my friends, teachers, and even priests have made comments implying or outright saying that they are against organized religion.
Could you make a video defending organized religion, especially the Catholic Church, from such criticism?
Thank you.
Well, Rebecca, thanks.
I have spoken about this in detail.
I've written about it other places.
So I'm not going to go into, you know, you can find that if you Google it, I think.
I will say that the backlash against so-called organized religion is the result of many things, I think.
Primarily, it's shallow thinking.
Especially if you have a priest who's against organized religion, when he's a member of one.
But really, for anyone.
For any Christian who says, oh, you know, I don't like organized religion.
It's relationship, not religion.
If these folks stopped to think about what they're saying for just a minute, they would realize that it doesn't make any sense.
Because religion, in this context, means, by definition, a belief in and worship of a supernatural being.
Now, you can have religions without supernatural beings, but if there is a supernatural being, and you worship that being, that's a religion.
That's what a religion is.
Okay?
So, if Christianity is a religion, you can't say, well, it's not a religion.
Yes, it absolutely... You may as well claim that an elephant isn't a mammal.
No, an elephant is many other things as well, but it is definitely a mammal.
You can't just come up with a new definition for it.
Christianity is absolutely, by definition, a religion.
So the only question is, will it be an organized religion or a disorganized one?
Those are the only two options.
There is no option of Christianity not being a religion, because if you take the religion out of Christianity, then you're taking the worship of a supernatural being out of Christianity, so then you've just taken Christianity out of Christianity.
So it's going to be a religion.
Will it be organized or will it be disorganized?
So someone who says, I don't like organized religion, though I'm a Christian, what they're really saying is, I prefer a more disorganized, chaotic, confused version of Christianity.
Which, you know, I'm not really sure I see the plus side to that.
And, in fact, that is sort of what we have in American culture right now.
We have a very disorganized, fractured-into-a-million-pieces kind of Christianity where, you know, everyone believes, is kind of making it up as they go along, makes up their own doctrines on the fly.
So that is what a disorganized Christianity looks like, and there is nothing positive to be said about it.
Chris writes, Hi Matt, I wanted to share something with you in regards to your thoughts on the Gillette ad.
First off, I agree with you 100%.
The ad was an insult.
I found it very offensive.
My wife disagreed and told me it was fine to call out all these bad things so men can behave correctly.
I explained to her that there's nothing wrong with saying these behaviors need to stop, but the ad made it seem like the majority of men brush off this stuff with boys will be boys, when most men I know have never even said that phrase.
Now here's the interesting part.
Today I was coaching my son's baseball team and my older son accidentally hurt another boy while playing around.
My son immediately apologized and I apologized to the mother.
The mother was very understanding and then said, boys will be boys.
It was then that it hit me.
It wasn't that I never heard that statement before.
It was that I've mostly heard it from women in my lifetime.
Immediately after the game, I told my wife what happened and explained again why the ad was hurtful to men.
And the majority of time, the time it's women who say the phrase, um, Which is, I thought that was interesting because when I thought about it, and as I said last week, this is a phrase that I very rarely hear anyone say unironically, and I never have ever heard anyone say it to justify some clearly wrong behavior in a boy.
But of the times when I've heard it used in a sincere way, it is very often women who say it.
And justifiably so.
Because usually Boys Will Be Boys just has to do with boys kind of roughhousing and being active and energetic and that sort of thing.
Kevin says, what's it like being an uneducated bigot?
I don't know, Kevin.
You tell me.
Jordan writes, Matt, on the Covington Catholic school kids issue, you may be right that the issue was misconstrued.
You may be right that Phillips lied.
But still, they were disrespectful and obnoxious, and they deserve the criticism.
I feel like you're just trying to be a contrarian by defending them.
Lost some respect for you today, and I say this as a fan.
Disrespectful and obnoxious.
Now you tell me, what's the protocol here?
What are they supposed to do?
These kids, again, they were just standing there, they're being harassed and verbally assaulted by this black radical group.
And then this Native American group marches in and starts playing a drum in their face.
How are you supposed to react?
When I looked at that video, you know the main thing I saw on the faces of these kids, and there's been a lot of, a lot of people have had a lot to say about the facial expressions of these white kids, especially the one, the main one featured in the video, and how he's smiling and everything, and people are making a lot out of that, but the main thing that I see is they're just, they're perplexed.
What I see is confusion.
They don't know what the hell is going on.
And they're just, so they're kind of, it's a nervous sort of laughter.
It's the kind of thing you do where you're like, uh, okay.
It was that kind of smile.
As in, why is this guy coming in here and playing the drum in my face exactly?
Who are these people over here shouting all this stuff about, about, you know, it was, they were confused.
So how are you supposed to react?
If you were in that exact situation, Jordan, but you had never heard of this before, so you weren't prepared for it, what would you do?
Were they supposed to lie down in the fetal position?
Were they supposed to bow down in worship?
I mean, what are they supposed to do?
And I will also say that I believe completely in respecting your elders, but this guy, it appears to me, was trying to provoke these kids, and then he went and turned around, called them beasts, and lied about them.
So this is not a man who is worthy of very much respect.
Because, you know, you can lose your right to respect.
And when you lie and slander and defame somebody and try to manipulate and coerce a situation and all that, you're just not worthy of that much respect.
I'm sorry.
It's got nothing to do with you being Native American.
It just has to do with you being a liar.
And finally, Mitchell writes, Matt, I saw you kissing Tom Brady's butt on Twitter.
Not literally, you didn't see that.
Look, I'm sorry.
I hate the Patriots with a passion, and I don't like Tom Brady.
But what Tom Brady is doing, no player in the NFL has ever done anything like this.
This is the greatest NFL player to ever play the game.
Without a doubt.
There's not even a discussion anymore.
There's no one else who you could possibly put in this category because no other NFL player dominated to this extent for two decades.
Now, some of the other great QBs you can think of We're very dominant for, you know, seven or eight years, sometimes a decade, but two decades?
Tom Brady came into the league, I think, in 2003.
It's now 2019.
That's almost two entire decades.
And he's going to his, uh, to yet another Super Bowl.
So, to be this good for this long against this level of competition, Now, I know you might say the AFC East is a pretty weak division, and it is, but just in general in the NFL, the athletes are so good.
So everyone you're playing against is really, really good these days.
It's not like the NFL in the 60s, when you'd be playing against a bunch of just sort of like ordinary dad-type people.
No, these days, these are just athletic machines that you're playing against.
And so for Tom Brady to be this good for that long, The only other professional athlete that is maybe as impressive as Tom Brady is LeBron James.
Who, again, there's really no discussion there anymore.
He's obviously the best basketball player to ever play the game.
And I'm sure we can all agree on that.
We'll leave it there.
Thanks for watching, everybody.
Thanks for listening.
Godspeed.
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