Mike Lindell details MyPillow's resilience against alleged "lawfare" and debanking, pivoting to direct-to-consumer sales with promo code BARD S. He frames Minnesota's $19 billion fraud web, airport cash couriers to Somalia, and Ilhan Omar scandals as spiritual battles requiring his gubernatorial campaign to ban Sharia law and stop monopolies. Lindell attributes past tragedies like skydiving failures to divine appointments, urging listeners to view adversity as a blessing while promoting Rev7 energy drinks and voting machine reforms in the upcoming midterm election. [Automatically generated summary]
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Mike Lindell Returns00:15:11
You ever see this guy with the pillows on Fox?
My pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
He is the greatest.
The My Pillow guy.
Mike Lindell.
And he's been with us right from the beginning.
Patriots, we're have Mike Lindell back on this morning.
Awesome, always to have him on.
It's always an honor to have him with us.
So, Mike, how are you doing?
Doing great.
Actually, I've got a lot of good news coming in today, everybody.
But I'm back in Minnesota here with, and it's just been so far today, it's been good, really good news.
So, I want us to kind of start with something you talked about before the show, which, you know, we don't really always hear how MyPillow is transitioning into kind of a new market space.
You're reshaping your market profile as we're, as we literally are walking with you and just how you still remain like one of the number one direct sale companies in the nation.
Right.
Absolutely.
And this is what we've, it's funny.
The CBS asked me like in January when I went on CBS about running for governor.
And the first thing she asked me, she goes, Isn't my pillow bankrupt?
I go, What are you talking about?
I said, we're not bankrupt.
I said, we navigated being attacked by not only the government, the Biden administration under Arctic Frost, but also with lawfare.
But, Scott, that's a really good question there because people want to know.
And we're stronger than ever.
Are we smaller than we once were?
Absolutely.
But remember, everybody, we lost about half our business was retail.
And the box stores to this day, they're not taking us back from Walmart, horrible Walmart, to Costco.
Coles, all these places are not taking us back, even though I was right with all the election stuff that they were so far, you know, Mike's a conspiracy theory.
Now it's all come out.
I've been vindicated on that.
And so what we've done is they, and just now, over the since January, and this, you know, we were actually, we had two buildings originally.
I duplicate everything.
And remember, the one building was almost primary retail.
And that's been a couple, three years now that we've, Got rid of that building and then our other building where we have long term lease.
They would not renew our lease.
A company came in, a woke company bought the building, and they said, You know, we're not renewing your lease, my pillow.
And so, we had in January, February, and coming into March, we had to get this to move into a whole new building, a whole new factory.
Everybody now we've done this before, and uh, but it was still the timeline was very, very uh, thin to get this done because my employees, we you know, it's you're talking.
Three hundred thousand square feet, these massive buildings, and we had to be out.
And so, what we did is we had to come up with because it took about a month of permits and stuff.
And this is something when I'm governor, I'm going to get rid of a lot of these regulations.
I know it took two weeks because we had to, there were regulations how high the racking could be in the new building.
I mean, this is things you wouldn't even think of.
You have to be okay for this height.
And I'm telling my guys, I'm saying, well, why don't we just tell them this height and then we'll get the permits later to go that high?
And they go, that ain't the way it works here in Minnesota, the most regulated, third most regulated state in the country.
I mean, other than like California, I think you've heard that.
Was it Bill Maher said he had to have four inspections to put his own garage door in?
Four inspections, you know.
So here we are in Minnesota with my pillow and moving these factories.
So what we had to do.
And this would kind of tell you a little bit about the sale.
We had to move everything, get all these semis.
Originally, it was 120 semi trucks that we rented to fill up the inventory with these trucks before the factory was done over here and then move them into the factory.
It's like moving these massive pieces around.
Well, then during that time, we said, well, there's a lot of products that we had that we originally got for going into retail.
One of the biggest ones was the My Slippers.
Now, to be able to This company that came to us, this was years ago now, and they were going to put them in all the retail stores across the country.
But of course, MyPillow was canceled everywhere.
And so then we had all the slippers.
So, for example, now that what we have, we have a couple semis that are full of products we're closing out, like the MySlippers.
We're never carrying them again.
This is it, everybody.
So, if you go there, I mean, these are made with Impact Gel.
They were the best slippers ever made in history.
But we can't get them again.
We can't, we can't.
This is it.
So, what we've done is we've lowered that price 80% off so we can get these semis empty and we're putting them right into our shipping department, shipping them right to your front door.
And there's, I think, I think there's like 60 products we're closing out, like the slippers, everybody.
And you get free shipping on your entire order with promo codes BARDS.
And so, let's just talk the slippers.
So, regularly $149.98.
And they were $29.98.
I mean, you can't, and you get a free one.
We found we have thousands of these too, the My Slipper Spray, the leather spray.
You get a free one of them for every pair you buy.
So I feel like I'm back in my commercial days with all this stuff.
But you guys, you get the best products in history.
Here's another example.
You have all these, the dish towels we made.
You know, Mother's Day is coming up.
All these six piece dish towels, six piece, all the different colors and stuff.
We're closing that out forever too.
That was originally.
They were earmarked for retail stores.
And so, what my pillow has manifested into is we're still probably one of the biggest direct to consumer retailers in the country.
And we're not going anywhere.
But what we've had to do since the box stores, we're not going to sit around and wait with this inventory that the box stores want because they keep saying no.
So, you know what?
We're going to close them out, and you guys, your audience, gets the benefit of this.
Free shipping on your entire order that's on our employees.
We're saving a lot of money by not having to build and put in another build up all these racks, put this in there, and then take them out.
And especially since we're not going to continue them, unless the retail stores ever come around and say, You know, hey, we'll take the slippers, we'll take these dolls and these items.
But what will I do then if that ever happens?
Give me the money up front because we actually had retailers, you guys.
So, Scott, this actually happened a year and a half ago.
If everybody remembers, it was the fall of.
Of, I think it was the fall of the, let's see, last 25, it would have been the fall of 24, right with the election.
We had box stores that came back to us.
There was like three or four of them came back.
And one of them, they put in this huge order and they canceled their orders right before we were ready to send them out.
So we made all their orders.
A lot of it was the MyPillow, too, where we actually had all these boxes, everything made for retail.
And they canceled, right?
And that had to be a setup.
I think it was a setup.
So we've endured quite a bit of.
The challenges, but we were able to.
In fact, when running for governor, they say to me, Well, Mike, you know, my pillows are in this shape or whatever.
I'm going, No, I was able to, the American dream, build a company from the ground up, from the inventing my pillow to tens of thousands of employees over the years and selling 85 million my pillows since I invented it in 2005.
And that's going, you know, show to show, carrying pillows in an old pickup truck driving around.
And then to building up the infomercial and everything else, and then going as big as it got.
And then also now to weather the attacks, the attacks that have come from lawfare because they don't want the CEO out there talking about secure elections.
And so it's, Scott, this goes into running for governor.
They're going, well, Mike, look at the shape that my pillow's in.
There wouldn't be a nightmare if it wasn't for the grace of God and making decisions to guide that through the attacks, everybody.
So, and one of the things that was said to me is, you know, when I talked to the president in August about running for governor, I said, I'm thinking of running for governor.
But one of the things I said is, I want to make sure my pillow is secure so I can go 100% all in for governor.
And that just happened back in December, everybody, in early December, where, hey, they, you know, my pillow is secure.
We're not going anywhere.
We're stronger than ever, finally.
And, but things were, Things were very shaky for a long time because you don't, as you keep getting attacked and then you get, you know, we got debanked four times.
I mean, Merchant Server, American Express attacking us.
I mean, you name the company they went after, MyPillow, as part of this big scheme or plan to shut Mike Lindell up, the CEO.
MyPillow is an employee-owned company, which I just happen to be the biggest stockholder, but it's disgusting what they went after there.
Anyway, all that being said, you guys, you guys can help out, help yourself.
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I'll tell you, my employees, this is my own call center.
Remember, everybody, my pillow, we do everything ourselves.
This has been since 2012, where we were our own call center.
You get someone that speaks English.
What a concept.
I mean, these employees have been with me for decades, and we're like a big family, and it's all of your support out there that we've been able to get through.
And they love talking to you all.
It's free shipping, your entire order.
And these slippers, like I say, once they're gone, they're gone.
The best slippers in history, there's nothing better than these slippers.
And anyway, and then I'll say one more thing.
Remember, we have the mattress toppers.
This is just a little piece of demo I used to do.
Our mattress toppers and our mattresses, people forget, you know, they're made, 100% made here in the USA, every part.
But they work.
They give you the best sleep ever.
There's nothing better for sleep than our mattresses and our mattress toppers.
If you do have a mattress, you don't want to buy a whole new mattress.
Put this on there, it'll change your life.
There's a with these sleep cycles with REM sleep and Delta sleep, and you combine that with the My Pillow, and you're looking good.
I knew you would.
Mike, you said something some time back, which has really stuck with me, which goes back to the origins of your company, which I think you're, from what I'm seeing, you're still doing, which is you got to this place after the first year and you found that you had not made any money when you had all these massive sales.
And then you turned around and said, okay, we're going to make every vertical of what we do the best we can be as if it's a standalone business.
Yeah.
So it seems like you're still following that same philosophy.
It is the same philosophy.
It's like, What's what Scott's talking about there is 2012, everybody.
Uh, we went from when I made my first infomercial, we went from like 100 grand a year to 100 million in six months, and at the end of that, we were six million in the whole.
I go, What did I do wrong, God?
And I'm going, and I'm praying about it going, you know, I did well, I didn't really do anything wrong other than I was a little, I would say, a little naive that my handshake was my word, even contract.
I made.
All these deals.
There was a lot of corruption back then, and then a lot of mistakes where nothing was tracked.
Everything was outside of my pillow.
And so, what I did is pulled everything in house from our text marketing, email marketing, digital marketing, social media, a call center.
Everything was vertical.
Everything was vertical.
And you're right.
That's what we're doing now.
You have to adjust whatever your business footprint is, you adjust to that.
And that's what we're doing.
And if you had to live on one thing, One of the things we're really diving into now is with all the new social media platforms is learning each one.
And what if this is, I always say to, you know, what if you had to live on just this little piece?
Like I'll even tell my employees, I'll be teaching them going, what if this was yours?
What if you had all the income from the ads that were on True Social or the ads that were on Vocal or just the ads that were on X?
You would want to make that ad the best it could be.
You know, it's kind of like when I used to do shows and fairs, I would take everything I have, would be in the back of that pickup truck and that trailer.
And I wanted to make that particular show the best I could be.
Why?
Because that's all I had.
So that's all the money I had.
And if that failed, you know, it's over.
Then you couldn't keep going on, you know.
Back then it was, it had to be.
But one of the things, one of the things, If you go by that principle, then everything, every piece, you end up building the strongest company ever because you want everything to be the best it could be.
And what if that was your only outlet, only sales outlet?
Like back when I used to do newspaper ads, it didn't matter.
Every single ad, that's why everyone is tracked individually.
So you want that to be the best it could be.
What if that's all I had to live on?
Frugal Lessons Learned00:05:02
And it's so important.
And that's kind of what when I'm governor, Scott, when I'm governor, they said, Well, what are you going to do?
What's the first thing?
Or what are you going to fix?
I'm going, All of it.
You know, you build, you have teams, leaders, you know, in all these sectors and, you know, whether it's the farmers, the teachers, whatever.
What if this was the only thing I had to worry about?
But it's not, but I'm going to focus on this.
And that's why our president is so good at that.
I've never seen anybody that can multitask like him.
He can just shift.
Let's look at this.
Let's make this the best it can be.
Let's make this the best it can be.
It's the same philosophy.
And, um, so that's where we're at with, uh, with the MyPillow.
And, and that can go to like, Um, you know, what if we like treating every customer like it's your only customer?
There's another thing, too.
Now, I'm giving entrepreneurial advice, everybody, you know, and I and uh, and here was another thing, too.
And I want to give some advice out there for the uh, for entrepreneurs, um, deviations and blocks, you know, deviations.
You see a deviation, you know, everything's tracked like I do, I have in my pillow now, and there's a deviation like this weekend.
We had a big uptick, and it was.
I still, I'm going to get off this show.
I will go find out because things just don't happen when it comes to the power of numbers.
Something happened this weekend where our sales increased, and I will have to find out exactly why.
And then I want to duplicate that.
And you know what I mean?
But if something had this bad, which has happened before, then you dig into that and you find out why, and you don't want to do it again.
So you fix it and you don't, and you put in safety safeguards that it won't happen again.
And so this, You know, and then the other thing too is when just getting into a business, and I actually use this, I'm going to use, I'll tell you this one is looking for similar people that have been out there that have tried something.
Did it work or didn't it work?
And this goes to, and I'm going to kind of dip in right now for an example with running for governor.
Our teachers here in Minnesota, our education in Minnesota, it's a span of like four or five years where we spent 29% more money in education in Minnesota.
But during that span, we went down from like fifth in the nation to like 30th in testing.
We just fell off a cliff.
I'm going, okay, you spent more money and your results are just horrible, this horrible drop.
So what I did is I said, okay, maybe there's a state out there that did just the opposite during that time and see what they did, right?
Rather than try and dig in right away to all these pieces and try and understand it from this end.
Which I have too, but it's going to be, but I'd like an example of what if there's anybody that did a flip.
And there was one state, and that was Mississippi.
Mississippi during that time actually went from worse to they were 50th in the nation, like in 2013 and 14.
And then they moved up to like 35th very fast, three, four, five years.
So I reached out to them, and we have all these lists of things.
It's multiple things.
But they're all working.
So, won't that, so that me as a governor, or let's say it was a business thing, well, what I would do is just take, here's Mississippi, give us, take this stuff that works and put it in and take this stuff that doesn't work and get rid of it.
And it's, you know, that's just, that's what entrepreneurship and being a good CEO is.
I mean, that's, you look at each individual thing, problem, solution, and then what it'll manifest to.
But then you're also looking at multiple pieces of this giant puzzle being like my pillow and going, hey, everything comes together.
And, you know, and I'll tell you, Scott, you can learn a lot more when things are frugal, when things are so tight.
That you're living on the razor's edge, like my pillow's been for about three years.
We're under these attacks, and then boy, we made I think of money that I even left on the table.
And back in the day, when my pillow was just we were growing, you know, expanding so fast where you could, you know, there was money left because, right, as we've learned now, where we had where it was so tight here the last few years with the attacks, you learn, hey, we could make this more efficient over here, this one more efficient over here.
And not cheaper, everybody, but more efficient.
When I say I don't ever cheapen the product, you know what I mean?
If I got a product, you're going with the product and then you back in.
You don't change that to like they do in the old days, you know, like memory candy bars.
Let's shrink candy bars and charge people more, you know.
I mean, this is, you know.
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So to be, but to be able to be more efficient and to save different money with that multiplier is pretty amazing.
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Well, you're really talking about a principle of stewardship.
And it's interesting as we hear your story, if we really applied to God's refinement, kind of refining fire, you've gone through this process to make the gift of my pillow to become more efficient, more lean, and survivable, which I think is a, you're really staying ahead of the curve in that sense, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we had to, and you're reacting.
I don't think there's any company, you know, when God blessed me with this.
Pillow, you know, the invention, even that idea, even came in a dream with from that.
And to be able to have this, the platform, I can see, you know, a platform, and it was so strong as we came into the attacks on my pillow.
You know, I think there's about three different things that come into play there that we wouldn't, there's no way that I don't think any company could have survived.
The attacks, and I think that that's what evil thought because we're in this spiritual battle of the biblical proportions of evil and good.
I've said that before when it comes to our country and even the world, the uh, what's going on, and um, this is how bad they don't want me out there speaking my voice and talking about these things is let's destroy this company.
And but they weren't able to do it, and they didn't care about my employees, the collateral damage of hurting people's lives.
I mean, you guys, I could tell you stories that.
My employees would go out to get loans for maybe a mortgage on a house, or they would go get a car loan and they would say, Oh, no, you're with my pillow.
And they would get denied.
This is stuff that went on.
It was disgusting.
You would be denied.
Our customers would go to buy my pillows, and their banks would put it down as fraud and decline the transaction.
So our own customers would have to call their banks and say, There's money in my account.
What are you doing?
I'm buying from my pillow.
I mean, this was an all out attack with this Arctic Frost.
So it's, I guess it was.
And people say to me, well, Mike, you're stressed.
How do you get through and all this stuff?
I just did a big event.
It was a big speaking event I did.
There was about 600 people there, and it was a Reagan dinner.
And this was just coming up to me and asking, you know, how you get, you got all these things, and you're so attacked, and keep going and all this.
And part of my speech was to not have fear.
I said, I only fear the Lord.
And maybe my whole life of my book, if everybody's out there, if you read my book, the story was kind of like setting the foundation that, you know, for one thing, 99.9% of everything we worry about never comes true.
You know, and I felt myself today, actually, I've had to use that so many times and then be proactive in prayer and stay in the word.
But it was funny because I was down there speaking, and everybody, if you ever read my book, Scott, I don't know if you know this.
I have fear of public speaking.
That was my number one fear, even worse than fear of heights.
And people go, What?
Come on, Mike.
I'm going, No, I would be, if you were around me, everybody, it would be like being in an elevator.
I'd have that uncomfortable feeling of I would not want to talk.
And it still takes over once in a while at times, but I always get so uncomfortable when I first go up to speak.
But it was when I wrote my book, it finally came to me.
I just thought I didn't like small talk.
And here it was, I fear rejection.
Well, you don't get rejected if you don't talk.
You don't have to fear that if you just don't talk.
Right.
And by the way, everybody, that's a lot different than doing a commercial where you're just in front of a camera.
But yeah, I've gotten over that a little bit.
So we're okay.
Let's look over here at the governor race because you're facing an institution that obviously doesn't like you.
Right.
And you're stepping into this where a lot of people wouldn't even bother.
They would just say it's impossible.
And you're stepping in going, don't care.
God's with me.
I got all this other, and we're going to talk a little bit about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it's like they asked me too down there.
Well, why, you know, why are you running?
You just said it, you know, it seems like Minnesota, that would be impossible because it's been blue for so long.
And I said, well, one of the things is I said in the movie Armageddon, and I brought this up before, in the movie Armageddon, if anybody ever see, if anybody haven't watched, it's one of my favorite movies.
And they go to their saving, they plan it.
And they, and the daughter asked Bruce Willis, is Dad, why are you, why are you doing this?
Or, you know, why, why do you have to do this?
He said, because I don't trust anyone else to get it done right.
Or to get it done.
And that's where I'm at in Minnesota.
I think we have one shot at this.
And I'm saying this with all being humble.
There is these other ones, the same input.
These Republicans are there, they can't win.
They can't raise enough money when they talk about the ads and things that have to be done.
I don't think they have the right marketing ability you need for such a time as this.
We're in a different time and space.
Our president has proved that.
It's not like, we need to raise 14 million for TV.
Boy, it's going to take 15 million raised to beat this person or beat that person.
Yeah, I get that kind of marketing.
But we're in a different time where they tend to steer these things.
Like in Minnesota right now, you wouldn't even know I'm running for governor with our media because they've learned that I use the media to attack me to get the word out.
Okay.
And the last time this happened to everybody, you go, oh, Mike Lindell got served papers at CPAC.
You know, please, we're on TV.
Please, we're on TV.
That went viral.
That was great.
Everybody at least knows I'm running for governor now, right?
And those weren't, and then it wasn't what it appeared to be.
Those were not a service of papers for a lawsuit, a legal service of papers there.
It was actually a company that was using my image, and I had sent them a cease and desist.
So they're behind that, but I could have stopped that, Scott, because the guys with it are the ones that put it out there.
And I said, oh, go ahead and put it out there.
Why did I do that?
Because they're going, you know, whatever the media says, oh, Mike Lindell was served papers, but he's, you know, as he's running for governor, they're trying to bash me.
Over here, but then they get the word out that I'm running for governor.
But that being said, in Minnesota here, they're on to me.
They won't talk about me.
They won't bash me.
You wouldn't even know I'm running.
They keep bringing up the one Republican they want and then Amy Klobuchar.
And it doesn't matter what any of them have if they can't win.
You have to win first and foremost.
And then the policies I have to cover each thing is unheard of.
No one has better solutions.
To each one of those problems.
And I'm going, so I'm doing events, I'm doing town halls.
I got one tomorrow morning or tomorrow night, and my own town halls and my own rallies, everybody.
And what I'm going to do is bring the word to the people what I plan on doing to.
Um, once I'm once I am governor, but then also the plan of how I can win, which, um, you know, they're both kind of two separate things here.
You have to, you know, you have to have the marketing plan to win, then you better, you know, because you've seen people win that are the bad candidates, right?
Well, here, you know, and they because their marketing was either better or they had more money or whatever, you know, um, and uh, so I know all that, you know, I've got all that together.
I can raise the most money nationally.
By the way, everybody, this is breaking news, Scott, even for you, uh, On the first quarter report came out of raising money, and I was the number one in the Republicans, and I wasn't even close to the money that was raised for my campaign.
So, you know, I plan on putting 28,000 signs around Minnesota.
I think that would be like a record by like 20 some thousand.
You know, I mean, they're going to be everywhere.
And, but I'm excited.
I really feel like there is a pathway to win.
And, And then also getting the word out.
And they said all these solutions I have, like the no sales tax for the box stores and raise it on the internet level, like my pillow would have to pay more up here if you bought my pillow.
And same way with Amazon, if you were from Minnesota, but you'd have no sales tax at the brick and mortar level and the small business level.
And five states have done this, it's amazing.
And so I've got solutions to each thing.
You got the farmers, I plan on going after the farmers.
I just met with them.
The biggest problem the farmers had.
Is all the monopolies that go with it?
Monsanto, these giants, they can't even work on their own tractors anymore.
It's a, this is a, or voids whose warranties, these big monopolies have taken over the farming industry and they get all the money.
And so then the farmer sits there and we always got to subsidize them.
Well, how do you go after these giants?
You got to have courage to be able to go after these fertilizer companies and these seed companies.
I went after a machine, voting machine companies.
I don't care.
I'm going after them.
I don't fear that.
And plus, I have someone.
Very good friend of mine that's in a very high office.
Um, that I think when you start going up against these giants, you probably need a little bit of federal help too, because these are big monopolies.
When you talk, then you got to talk to the teachers' unions.
I can't wait to go after them.
Um, you know, I mean, these things are there's different problems.
Some are easy, some are you know, the ones that to me are going to be easy are going to be the inner city, the stuff I've already dealt with in the private sector, the addictions, the homeless, those will be, and all these welfare programs that the frauds in.
Those are going to be easy fixes for me.
And this is what I want to get the word out on.
Then they said to me, Scott, well, Mike, what if these other candidates, these other Republicans, copy you and they use that?
And they already have.
And some, and I go, I don't care.
It's like Kamala Harris when the president said he wasn't going to tax tips.
And she came out two days later, Kamala Harris isn't going to tax tips.
Well, great.
And then it was brought up to me because in our primary, they said, Mike, if you lose the primary, Would you still help these other candidates?
They go, absolutely, of course.
We get one shot at this, the most critical midterm election in history.
I would give them all of these policies or all the stuff I'm going to do because they work.
I'm not going to hide it.
If I knew someone was going to get in there and do it right, I wouldn't be running that had these solutions.
Who said that 20 years ago and 30 years ago?
President Trump did.
I watched those videos for back then.
Maybe someday I'll run, but right now we need someone in there that can do this stuff and this.
And then he decided, hey, no one's getting it done.
So he went and got it done.
And so, Mike, talk a little bit about this because going forward here, you just said something that's interesting.
Are you, have you ruled out running as a third party?
If the, no, no, no, you can't.
It's 100%.
100%.
And then, and no, you would, you would 100% lose it, end up being like New York.
You can't ever, those days are gone.
There's such a divide in the party, everybody, that those days are gone.
Back when you, when you had independence run, like in Minnesota, when Jesse Ventura ran, it was different that we didn't have this.
Big device.
So Jesse pulled from both Democrats and Republicans and he won a 34 33 33.
That's how close that was.
So, you know, him is, you know, so those days are gone.
All you would do is split the Republican side and the Democrat would just, you would be, and that was a big concern.
People came up to me with that concern.
I go, are you kidding?
I would never do that in a million years.
I would, if I lose the primary, obviously I would get on and, and, um, And help them.
But you know, it kind of, that's kind of scary too.
And I ran for the Republican or the RNC chair, everybody.
When I ran for RNC chair, I doubled Harmite Dillon and Ronald McDaniel the night before.
Okay.
Doubled them.
And then I ended up with, of the 168, only four of them voted for me.
So once again, the politician didn't listen to what the people wanted.
But I remember, and I'll say this, Um, harm well, it was harm meat the night before I met with her and I said, She goes, How many people do you have that you know are 100% voting for?
And I didn't know, and because she was kind of making a deal, like, Hey, you know, Mike, um, you know, if I win, you if I could take your votes or whatever over here, and you can have part of my, and uh, I wanted to get into the RNC regardless, get in there and secure our voting uh platforms, and what she said straight out, she said, I'm not, you're not going to do any part of what if I get elected.
So it was like turned on me right at zero hour, and I'm going, what?
So, you know, it's kind of strange, but what I wanted ended up being from Rhonda McDaniel because she helped me get that to fruition.
And that was a resolution that was passed in August of 20, I believe 23, of paper ballots hand counted, same day voting, voter ID, all these things, which Rhonda helped.
And everybody was so against her.
But you see, I mean, I'm learning these politics, put it that way, Scott.
I'm learning these politics and I'm going, you know what?
I don't care if you've done it this way before and this way.
I'm going to do it my way.
And I've got a great mentor that's actually, I've watched him do it his way too, especially when you get to these, as you get closer to the elections of how you're going to, you know, what you're going to do, who you're going to trust to do this, who would you jump on board with?
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Because remember, there's uniparty Republicans out there that are just as bad as anything, you know.
And, you know, that's where I, to me, where it's like in Minnesota, the same old, same old, You're putting in, you know, here's this endorsement by the GOP, and then you get to August, and you are voting is 45 days early, everybody.
So you're voting in September, and your primary gets done in August, and now you got to raise all this money and go up against Amy Kolbuchar, who is a machine.
And right now, I'm spending all my money.
They said, by the way, they said, look, Mike's spending his money as fast as it comes in.
Of course, I am, because I'm going against Amy right now.
We've got to win this.
We've got to spend the money now to get the people turned now before they even get there.
I want them, I want them can't wait to vote in September, but to vote for Mike Mandel, not to vote for change, to vote for a different input so we get a different output and save the American dream here in Minnesota.
Minnesota, you know, we're the Trojan horse too for Sharia law.
Everyone goes, well, that would never come in.
Yeah, yes, that's what they want and that's what they're pushing, but we have the fraud, the blessing of the fraud.
Can say ban Sharia law and you're not a racist.
You know, there's so many good things that are going on, one of them being the fraud.
And I look at it as a good thing because Amy Klobuchar, she was, this was under her watch too.
You know, all this stuff's getting exposed.
Our attorney general, our current governor, Waltz, Ilhan Omar, these corrupt politicians.
Let's not forget that.
We have the perfect time in history in Minnesota to go, you know, but then also, I'm kind of all over the board.
That's what the Republicans are saying over here, you know.
If Mike Lindell comes in, this is our one chance because of how things are now.
You guys have had chance over chance over chance.
We need a businessman running this.
And it's not just when I say qualified, Scott, for me to have access to Washington by picking up the phone, to work together with the state, to have that access and being able to say, did this work anywhere else?
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Or does this work anywhere else?
Or to sound the alarm.
Here's another thing I'm breaking on your show today.
I was at Minneapolis Airport, everybody, on Friday, going through the airport.
The TSA agents, four of them came up to me on the side and said, Here, could you come here a minute?
And they said, There's that suitcase in here.
They pulled out, grab me that suitcase.
I'm going to show you.
They said, Mike, suitcases, suitcases full of cash are going through the, still coming through every day, millions of dollars going to Somalia.
So what am I doing?
You know, I'm getting that info to Washington, to the president, to the administration.
This stuff is still going on.
And it was just, well, Mike, what do you got in that suitcase?
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This was a prop.
There's actually, if you look on here, this is Mark Zuckerbuck from Facebook.
This is back when I was doing four years ago doing an ad.
That's old Mark Zuckerberg on there.
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I said, You sucked money out of all of us back then.
So this was a commercial thing there.
But they're taking real money and shipping it every day to Somalia.
It's still going out at our airport.
And all those TSA agents said, Mike, there's somebody here on the inside because.
They have to clear, they have to get it okay to everybody.
When I used to card count, if I had more than 10 grand and you're bringing it through that airport, you have to report where you got it, what happened, what is this?
So somebody's looking the other way or letting these Somalians still ship all this money over to Somalia.
You know, and is the fraud still going on?
I would say absolutely.
It's crazy.
And that is just it.
There is so much fraud in the system.
You have an amazing way in a time of social media where one comment, for example, can become the entire focus of an entire thread.
You have an amazing way of putting that one comment aside and constantly staying focused on the goal and being positive.
Talk about that.
Yeah.
And that's, you know, that is, it's, I probably, I'm always optimistic.
And then so is our president.
I mean, when him and I have talked, we talk, it's like, It's like, um, you're always, you know, that's what people don't realize about him.
He's very so optimistic on everything because he now does get frustrated.
Like, I get frustrated going, you know, you want things to happen faster than they do, and you think about how great it can be for all the people and for all of us here.
And then you get frustrated when you look at people over here on the left, let's call it on the left, going, How can you not see?
Don't you want these things to happen to be in our lives?
Do you really want this, this, or this?
And you can use bad examples like, um, you know.
The nonsensical things that don't make sense.
And you bring that up to them, and it's like they've been so brainwashed.
So, one of the things that for me is I just did as a lot of these rallies and events I'm going to be doing, and I'm going to put them on social media, little clips, because I want people to hear the positive of it.
I look at all the negative, and this is what I did during my speech with that Reagan dinner I just went to that I spoke at.
I said, You guys, all these, God uses all things for good for those who believe.
These bad things are actually good things.
And why?
Because this is what it takes.
People get so frustrated going, you know.
And I'm not talking about the politicians like for the Save America Act.
These guys are just corrupt on the left, those politicians, because it's a hidden agenda.
It's political.
That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about people like you and I, Scott.
I don't care where they're at with their Democrat, Republican, conservative, liberal, wherever they're at, those people seeing the light or seeing the What would help them, or what's going to help them to be have better lives here?
And, uh, and, um, some of them are so brainwashed they can only see the negative.
So, for them to see the negative, that's what's opened so many eyes up the last four or five years is the negative things.
You know, you're transgender, you're with men and women's sports, stuff like this, tampons in men's bathrooms, like in Minnesota, with, with, you know, we, we joke about these things, but, but, um, People that are over here going, you know, this, that's a little over the top.
You got people like Bill Maher nationally.
Bill has came almost completely to the center because of the nonsense that they tried to push over here.
So, those terrible negative things, if I was their marketer, if they wouldn't have had that, you guys, if they would have, I would have said, don't even do that.
We can, we can never, you know, completely take over everything if we don't completely bring this craziness in, right?
And this is where I'm at.
So I'm just always optimistic that, you know, you see things that are bad are really good.
And it's just like everybody, the attacks on my pillow, like I say, the last, it's been going on for years now.
It's manifested where I look around my employees and we're also, you know, we're like a big family and we've weathered that storm and came out the other end stronger, better.
We're more, you know, Are we completely as big as we once were?
We're not as big as we once were.
But when you take away a whole sector like retail, you know, and maybe, and there's things that are, you know, that we're adding, expanding on.
It was just, it might have seemed to, the Rev7, our energy drinks, these, and bars and stuff.
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And you're replacing things that aren't good for you where it's actually good for your brain.
And it gives you a clarity, a mental clarity, and you don't have the ups and downs, the highs and lows.
You do with the energy drink people.
You know, you sleep all night, you're my pillow, and you feel good the next morning, but you don't want these highs and lows if you're taking energy drinks.
But anyway, that's just another thing where we're expanding.
Anything over here that's bad can end up being an opportunity over here.
That's the way I look at it.
And that comes with everything, whether it's my pillow with other products with closing out some and adding some, uh, to go to this new footprint that's, you know, better, stronger, better than ever.
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And, and, uh, that's where our country as a whole is.
Um, this is the one chance we have to, if we went, if we didn't have the last four or five years and all the nonsense actually since Obama divided our country.
Um, and, um, you know, the, um, If you didn't have all the craziness, I think we would have just been, we'd have all just shifted that way and it would have been a slow boil and we'd have been over for our American dream.
It would be over.
But now it's so, they're desperate, everybody.
Like I say, this midterm election is the most important election of our lifetime at this point in time.
Okay.
Every, you know, and so I'm encouraged.
I feel good about it.
And they, and, you know, like I say, right, the week I ran, The Minnesota, the fraud comes out worldwide.
And I'm going, Thank you, Lord.
I mean, who does that?
I'm going, I just, I opened my speech at that reign there going, We just got the biggest blessing Minnesota's ever have.
We got the fraud because it's going to stop a lot of things.
It's going to stop the takeover of the Sharia law and downtown, all the, with all the Somalians that they want.
They're not assimilating to what we want here, you know, and that, and, um, um, So you have that.
And then it's also getting rid of these corrupt politicians.
And, you know, boy, my governor, all the commissioners are going to go on the first day.
Let's see race is straight.
We set a new foundation.
And then you're going to have people that we either didn't have courage in politics.
You're seeing that in D.C. Some that didn't have courage to step up and do the right thing because they were afraid of, or you're going to see people that were, you know, over here political that go to the common sense thing.
And you see that, and that could happen, everybody.
Look at, Look at Fetterman.
I mean, that guy, it was so, I mean, so far over here, I thought, and then all of a sudden he comes to at least a common sense position when you talk about politicians.
And so with God, all things are possible.
Now, is this going to happen today?
I hope so.
Absolutely.
You know, Mike, it's really interesting.
You tell the story the way you see your life.
And it reminds me, in the juxtaposition of that, like people address a lot of this like Balaam's donkey.
He's beating the donkey when the donkey's trying to help him.
Hear God better.
And you don't do that.
You just stay on that side and go, it's God.
Like even the worst moments, like you're talking about, whatever that is that comes in your way, you see that as a blessing.
And I really think that's something that people really need to hear about you is anything adverse, you just see as an opportunity.
I absolutely and and I think and and um, you know I don't, it's everything.
I'll look at it.
And I almost look at it like it's a divine, a divine thing that happened, a divine appointment, that's.
Whatever that bad thing was.
It's like wow, I wonder what, what this, what good's going to come out of that?
You know, I look at that almost right away, even if it's, if it's bad at the time.
That's just devastating.
I had something just the last three days happen and uh, and now I couldn't see it at the time, believe me, but I knew that there was this battle of evil and good.
But what was going on in real time when this was happening Friday and Saturday?
I'm going, what more can happen?
It was like you can't just keep piling it on.
But then I go, wow, something really good is going to come out of this.
As I'm thinking, you know, it used to be, you guys, where's it?
Charlie, give me my book there.
My book, you guys, I want to tell you, when I wrote my book, What are the odds from crack addict to CEO?
In my book, there's pictures in here.
I'll show some more.
There's like, okay, here, here, um, you go back, there's pictures.
Like, here's a picture of a truck that I hit a tree head on, and they don't know how I lived.
It's had broken bones, and the bones were, were, were not broken when they, by the time I got the hospital, things like this.
But there's different pictures.
Here's one.
Mike came to get our money.
Um, book was with me.
Things are going to get very physical by tomorrow.
If you're, if not paid, call me.
That's the mafia when I owe him money for football bets, right?
Written on a, A Hardee's bag, and this is back in 1981.
Now, what did I do, everybody, is even back then when something would happen to me, I would have the, I was taking pictures of this going, wow, that's going to be a good story when I ever write my book someday.
So I would take these negatives.
I'm not kidding.
I'd be in jail.
I'd be, or I'd be, you know, being armed robbed, whatever it would be.
And I would take a picture of the moment going, you know, or here's the one with my motorcycle when I went skydiving and my parachute didn't open.
I crashed my motorcycle.
On the same day I went skydiving, a parachute didn't open.
So, in other words, I did this all where you'd have all these pictures where you're reading the book going, Okay, this is no way this happened.
And then you see proof it happened.
And then when you get done with the book, you're going, Wow, if all this happened, how easy is it to believe in Jesus Christ?
Because the whole book frames it around that.
And then you see odds, one in a million, one in a billion, or or this is impossible when do you consider it a miracle in fact i think i even um i think i even wrote that in here but um But anyway, this.
So when you talk about negatives, I did that my whole life.
I would see this, it'd be devastating.
I can tell you stories after story, which are in the book, going, and people are reading that.
How did you keep it together?
One was, and I wasn't even saved then, but I did, you know, I'd do my praying, those reactionary prayers to God, you know, God, get me through this one.
I promise I won't do this or this, you know.
And then, but then to just keep, to take a picture in time that that happened.
And to turn that going, well, I'm going to, basically, the premise was I'm going to get through this.
And when I do, I want to be able to have this proof that I got through it back then, that it really happened.
That was it throughout the whole book.
You know, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
Mike, tell us where we can support you for being your governor.
Yeah, you guys, I really need support.
And you can go to mikelindelgov.com, mikelindelgov.com, and go there.
And if you Can't if you if you can't support 100% your money, I'm going to be the best money ever spent and just say, Well, I don't live in Minnesota.
Minnesota is the tip of the spear.
The stuff I'm going to be doing here is going to affect the whole nation.
I guarantee it.
And, um, and if, um, so it's Mike Lindell Gov.com.
If you can't just spread that, spread it on your social media.
Um, the, uh, and you can go to my, I'm on every social media platform too, whether it's X, Vocal, True.
So it doesn't matter, Gab, Getter, all of them.
Under at real Mike Lindell or at Mike Lindell.
If you go there, you can spread that out so we can get the word out.
But that's all I need.
If I get the resources, my marketing plan is going to be amazing and we've already been doing it.
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It's awesome, Mike.
We always close with a prayer, so we're going to do a prayer.
That's okay, Father.
I just want to thank you for this time with Mike, and it's just a reminder of just the power of just being committed to you, the joy that that brings, and the ability to just see through all of the darkness and always find light.
And we just want to.
Praise Mike and praise all that he brings here as a voice of a reminder in a time that things get very complicated, very chaotic.
And always there's the through line with you that Mike reminds us of and everything he does.
Always looking for the opportunity to honor you and to what gifts you're giving him.
And if we can just remember that as a nation, the strength that we will gain will be immeasurable.