The Lindell Report - Mike Lindell - The Mike Lindell Show: Heather Mullins with Joe Maxwell and Brian Lupo
Aired: 2026-04-21
Duration: 59:35


=== Farm Bill and Glyphosate (14:50) ===

[00:00:01]  You ever see this guy with the pillows on Fox?
[00:00:06]  My pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
[00:00:11]  He is the greatest.
[00:00:13]  The My Pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
[00:00:20]  And he's been with us right from the beginning.
[00:00:39]  Hello, everyone.
[00:00:40]  Heather Mullins here, guest hosting for Mike Lindell.
[00:00:43]  We have another great show coming up for you.
[00:00:46]  Today, one of the big issues we're going to talk about is something a lot of Americans care about, and that's our farmers and our ranchers and our food supply.
[00:00:55]  And so, joining me now to unpack some of the issues pertaining to our farmers and ranchers is Joe Maxwell.
[00:01:01]  He is the Farm Action Fund president.
[00:01:03]  Joe, thank you for joining us again.
[00:01:05]  Yeah, it's great to be on again.
[00:01:07]  Thank you.
[00:01:08]  Yeah.
[00:01:10]  Things coming up as far as down there in Washington.
[00:01:14]  Why don't you give us a little preview of what we can expect next week that is pertaining to our farmers and ranchers?
[00:01:23]  Yeah, thank you.
[00:01:24]  Well, next week's a big week.
[00:01:26]  Kicks off on Monday, on the 27th, with a big rally out in front of the Supreme Court discussing whether or not the Supreme Court should side with Bayer and give them immunity.
[00:01:40]  Against farmers and farm workers and others that have been harmed by their products.
[00:01:45]  And then the House, the Speaker is kicking off floor debate on the Farm Bill, which is two and a half years delayed.
[00:01:54]  So, a lot of excitement, big occurrences, big happenings in Washington, D.C. this coming week.
[00:02:01]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:02:01]  So, let's touch on that first one with Bear.
[00:02:05]  What is it that we hope to achieve?
[00:02:08]  What's the best case outcome that we can hope for going into next week?
[00:02:14]  Well, first, I think, no, and I know you've mentioned this before on the show, I am a farmer.
[00:02:20]  The best outcome for me and for those that Farm Action Fund represents is the Supreme Court would rule against Bayer, that Bayer would not be able to hide behind what they knew, hide behind a government label, government approved label, and be able to skip out on being accountable for the chemicals that they manufacture.
[00:02:47]  So that would be the best outcome for us as the Supreme Court takes this issue up.
[00:02:52]  Now, is it that, I guess, like, let's say the Supreme Court does make it so that Bayer is held accountable.
[00:03:00]  What would then be the repercussions, right?
[00:03:04]  The real world sort of measurable repercussions that followed such a ruling?
[00:03:11]  Well, Bayer wants to make the case, and in their filings, along with the president and DOJ siding with Bayer, they want to make the case that we'll have this huge food supply shortage.
[00:03:26]  That's just not the case.
[00:03:27]  Many farmers don't use Bayer Roundup.
[00:03:33]  Even if they spray and use Roundup ready seeds, they're buying generic.
[00:03:38]  The majority of farmers can access generic Roundup.
[00:03:43]  At a lot less of a cost.
[00:03:46]  And with high costs today, farmers facing fertilizers and fuel, that's the direction they're going in.
[00:03:51]  Farmers also are learning techniques and practices that allow them to use less chemicals.
[00:03:57]  And then, of course, our organic farmers don't use any at all.
[00:04:00]  So, to us out here in farm country, we don't see anything happening other than Bayer has to live up to the abuses that they've caused to farmers and farm workers and other folks around the country.
[00:04:13]  Yeah.
[00:04:13]  I mean, that's.
[00:04:14]  Definitely seems like sort of the talking point that they're sort of pushing is that, oh, if we take away these chemicals, suddenly the food supply is going to collapse.
[00:04:23]  But it just, it's like, do we really want a food supply though that is riddled with chemicals that are making people sick, giving them cancers and all sorts of other issues?
[00:04:38]  Yeah, well, we don't want a food system that continues to make people sick.
[00:04:41]  Yeah.
[00:04:41]  I'm a farmer.
[00:04:42]  We want to feed, we want to raise healthy food for our neighbors.
[00:04:46]  That's what we want.
[00:04:47]  And Bayer is just really this case isn't about whether or not the other fact is, and you just said what they're talking about.
[00:04:55]  This doesn't say that farmers can't use chemicals, this won't ban chemicals.
[00:05:02]  This will just say that Bayer failed to warn.
[00:05:07]  If the Supreme Court would rule against Bayer, then they would be ruling that people can take action against Bayer for failure to warn a possible cancer causing agent, in this case, glyphosate.
[00:05:23]  And that Bayer says, well, the government approved my label.
[00:05:26]  I should be protected.
[00:05:28]  And we say, no.
[00:05:30]  If you know something's going to harm somebody, you should have to tell them.
[00:05:34]  And if you don't, Then they should have a right to go to court.
[00:05:37]  This is the opportunity, just establishing a right to go to court.
[00:05:42]  Yeah.
[00:05:42]  It's funny how, with when it comes to the chemicals as well as the vaccines, it seems like those are the two sacred cows where, like, you don't have to warn people about some of the issues.
[00:05:54]  But with like, you know, most drugs, every time you see an advertisement on television, it says, oh, you know, take this if you want to live great, but it'll also cause A, B, C, D, and every other letter of the alphabet as a symptom and side effect.
[00:06:08]  And you're like, wait, what?
[00:06:09]  So, why wouldn't those same requirements be made for the bear companies that are introducing chemicals that could potentially have those side effects?
[00:06:23]  I think when we interviewed Zen Honeycut, who you're probably familiar with as well, she had mentioned, too, like, right, it's the parent that has the child with cancer that might be re exposing them to more toxics.
[00:06:36]  Like, they deserve to know what compounds are in there that could worsen their child's.
[00:06:43]  Um, current cancer and things like that, so definitely an important uh, an important ruling we're going to have to watch.
[00:06:51]  And I look forward to having you back on, you know, to keep tabs on that.
[00:06:56]  Um, we also have what is it the past the opportunities for fairness and farming act?
[00:07:01]  I know you have that listed on your um website here.
[00:07:06]  If we can go ahead and put that up, um, give us a little background in what exactly is this act?
[00:07:13]  How does it benefit the farmers?
[00:07:14]  What can you tell us?
[00:07:15]  Well, right now, about a billion dollars in tax money is paid in by farmers.
[00:07:22]  Every time we sell a commodity, a cow, calf, pig, bushel of soybeans, wheat, we have to pay the government money, and it equals about a billion dollars.
[00:07:37]  Unfortunately, this money has been co opted by, it was supposed to go to benefit the farmer, research, and markets.
[00:07:46]  But big industry, big ag, has co opted this money and is now using it against us.
[00:07:52]  We see just take on the issue on glyphosate.
[00:07:56]  You see all these trade industries going in and lobbying on behalf of Bayer.
[00:08:01]  And oftentimes they're the very groups that are getting our checkoff money.
[00:08:07]  So this bill says if you lobby for agricultural policies, you cannot receive any of the farmers' checkoff money.
[00:08:16]  That will help us use that money to continue to provide adequate research, development from that research, and then to market our products.
[00:08:26]  And that was the original intent.
[00:08:28]  A billion dollars is a lot of money to us farmers, especially when we're facing high fertilizer and fuel costs this year.
[00:08:35]  So, that billion dollars is basically like a tax to all farmers, it's required that you have to pay into this fund.
[00:08:43]  Yes, it's a mandatory fee.
[00:08:46]  It's like an excise tax.
[00:08:47]  So it's, and there's no way for the farmer to pass that on.
[00:08:51]  We have a bushel of soybeans and someone tells us how much they'll pay for it.
[00:08:56]  We don't say we want this much money.
[00:08:58]  And then when we say, okay, we'll sell it for that, then the government takes money out of our check, not out of the person that buys it.
[00:09:06]  There's no way for us to pass that on.
[00:09:08]  And there's 22 of these programs and it totals about a billion dollars in collections.
[00:09:14]  Right on the back of the American farmers.
[00:09:16]  And then we see the National Cattlemen's Beef Association lobbying against mandatory country of origin labeling.
[00:09:23]  They get about 70% of their budget is checkoff money.
[00:09:27]  I'm for MCool.
[00:09:29]  I want folks to know that if it's born, raised, slaughtered, processed in the United States, that I want them to know that I want that mandatory.
[00:09:37]  If I sell one of my pigs and you buy a treat for your dog, an ear, a pig's ear, which they sell around my way, and You buy it, it says where it comes from.
[00:09:49]  If you go to eat any part of that pig, the pork, you don't know.
[00:09:54]  So it makes no sense not to have mandatory country of origin labeling.
[00:09:59]  But in this case, the National Cattle Beef Association gets all that money from Chekhov, and then we see them walk in the halls to stop it from being labeled.
[00:10:10]  Why?
[00:10:11]  Because the big meat packers, the two largest, are Brazilian and they're bringing in foreign beef.
[00:10:17]  And they don't want the consumer to know that it's foreign beef.
[00:10:21]  And the National Cattle and Beef Association represents those big packers more so than it does the farmers.
[00:10:27]  They only represent about 5% of the cattle in the United States.
[00:10:31]  About 95% of the cattle producers are not members.
[00:10:34]  And so that's why we want to make this change.
[00:10:38]  And so this change, that's actually crazy.
[00:10:41]  So money is being mandatorily taken from American farmers and ranchers and then used to lobby for Brazilian beef.
[00:10:50]  Companies are not Brazilian, like foreign beef companies, because the packers are Brazilian.
[00:10:58]  That's two of the largest packers in the United States are Brazilian.
[00:11:01]  Four companies control 85% of all the cattle, and about half of that's controlled by Brazilian companies JBS and Marfrig.
[00:11:09]  Marfrig owns the controlling interest in national beef.
[00:11:12]  And you're right, it sounds crazy.
[00:11:14]  When we're lobbying for this, there's people on staff on the Hill say, well, that can't be happening in America.
[00:11:22]  We have a hard time moving this bill just because it's so unimaginable that this kind of scandal, kind of abuse would be going on in the guise of government taxes.
[00:11:35]  So, what do we have to do to create American meat packing companies?
[00:11:40]  Why do we have Brazilian companies packing our meat for us?
[00:11:47]  Well, for about 40 years now, Democrats and Republican administrations have been very lax on antitrust laws.
[00:11:56]  And they allow these companies to come in and buy up U.S. companies to consolidate the meat market.
[00:12:04]  Senator Schumer has introduced a bill.
[00:12:07]  It's got 15 co sponsors on it right now.
[00:12:11]  And it would break this up.
[00:12:13]  It would break up these big meat packers.
[00:12:16]  And so we're really supporting that and appreciate the senator for.
[00:12:20]  Introducing that legislation.
[00:12:23]  But it's a real challenge 40 years of consolidation and concentration in the market, and it's favored foreign companies.
[00:12:32]  Bayer is foreign, right?
[00:12:35]  It's Germany.
[00:12:36]  And they are one of the top three companies controlling seeds and chemicals in this country.
[00:12:43]  So that we have to depend on foreign interest, not only for our meat to buy from the farmer, our sell side, but also on our input side.
[00:12:55]  We're dependent upon foreign companies.
[00:12:57]  And that's just wrong in America.
[00:13:00]  Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
[00:13:02]  So, what's going on with this act next week, right?
[00:13:09]  What is that change about the current system?
[00:13:12]  How does that help the farmer?
[00:13:14]  Yeah.
[00:13:15]  The Farm Bill, part of the big debate, every supposedly five years, there's a big debate in Washington, D.C. on food and farming.
[00:13:26]  And it's called the Farm Bill.
[00:13:28]  They're two and a half years late right now in passing this bill.
[00:13:32]  So the current policies have been going on for seven and a half years.
[00:13:36]  On the 27th, they've announced they'll begin debate on that bill.
[00:13:41]  So not only the Supreme Court, but we're also in there pushing Congress, the members, to represent the people and the farmers and not big ag.
[00:13:52]  This issue is one issue we've been pushing.
[00:13:57]  We don't have the kind of money.
[00:13:58]  I mean, we're paying in a billion dollars in taxes into the checkoff, and we don't receive Farm Action Fund, which doesn't get any government money or corporate money.
[00:14:08]  We don't want it.
[00:14:09]  But we're facing our own dollars in the Capitol lobbying against us.
[00:14:14]  Senator Thune, the majority leader in the U.S. Senate, Senator Schumer, I just mentioned, is the minority.
[00:14:21]  Senator Thune has legislation on MCOOL.
[00:14:24]  So we're pushing to have mandatory country of origin labeling.
[00:14:29]  And we also are working to get the off act, and we're trying to make sure that farmers continue to have the opportunity of a market in California that Proposition 12 has allowed.
[00:14:39]  Yeah, we actually have that Proposition 12 link here from your website.
[00:14:44]  We could put that on the screen here.
[00:14:47]  Why don't you tell us a little bit about why Prop 12 matters?

=== Feeding Ourselves Locally (09:14) ===

[00:14:52]  I know it has to do, I think, with some of the space for the animals, which I'm a huge animal advocate.
[00:14:58]  I'm certainly not the PETA type that says you can't eat meat, but I do think.
[00:15:03]  You know, on a basic human level, we want to treat all animals with dignity.
[00:15:08]  And that's even ties back to biblical scripture, right?
[00:15:11]  There's actually scripture in the Bible that says we're supposed to treat animals with a certain level of dignity.
[00:15:17]  Tell us why Prop 12 matters.
[00:15:20]  Well, you mentioned the animals.
[00:15:22]  I'll start there.
[00:15:23]  Look at the picture there of those mama sows in those cages.
[00:15:29]  They will spend the majority of their life right there.
[00:15:33]  That's where they'll be all their life.
[00:15:35]  They're an intelligent animal, I raise hogs, and they are an intelligent animal, a social animal, and big gag.
[00:15:42]  People like China Smithfield and others think that it's great to cage them.
[00:15:47]  Smithfield is moving away from those, which we're proud of.
[00:15:52]  That is not how you treat an animal.
[00:15:53]  At the heart of this is animal welfare, how a farmer should.
[00:15:59]  My dad used to say just because you can doesn't mean you should.
[00:16:02]  Just because you can cage an animal all its life doesn't mean you should do it.
[00:16:06]  The second thing that's very important is big ag, the large 68% of the hog industry is controlled by four companies.
[00:16:15]  They don't want to be told what to do, they like to be in control.
[00:16:19]  They like to tell you who's going to farm, what we're going to farm, how we're going to farm, and what you're going to eat.
[00:16:24]  Whether it's safe or not.
[00:16:26]  And independent hog farmers, those are the ones that aren't tied to the big pork companies, 27% of them are in compliance with California, and the market is working.
[00:16:38]  Our farm is part of a co op of about 100 farmers, and we're selling into California.
[00:16:43]  And the market is working for us, and it's working for the people of California.
[00:16:48]  But big ag wants it stripped.
[00:16:50]  And unfortunately, the chairman of the House Committee, Agriculture Committee, Thompson, has put language in.
[00:16:58]  That would preempt California's law.
[00:17:01]  And we're fighting hard to keep this market opportunity for farmers and provide some dignity in the way in which we treat animals out here on the farm.
[00:17:10]  Our consumers want that.
[00:17:12]  But it's also, as you said, it's biblical.
[00:17:14]  I've taken these animals under my custody.
[00:17:16]  I have a responsibility.
[00:17:19]  100%.
[00:17:19]  I mean, there's scripture about God's wrath against people that are unkind to animals.
[00:17:25]  So it's something that really, I think, a lot of Americans.
[00:17:29]  Those that eat me, those that don't, just we have a deep appreciation for life in general, and just want you know, if we're going to sacrifice animals for to sustain our own existence, it needs to be done with respect and you know, to life as a whole.
[00:17:45]  So, I applaud your efforts, and I hate seeing I like I know there's a lot of Instagram pages dedicated to some of the horrific things that happen.
[00:17:53]  So, like, I even understand the perspective of the radical pita person, it can be traumatizing when you see how some of these animals are treated.
[00:18:02]  Um, so.
[00:18:04]  I think there is a humane way that we can still eat and consume meat and raise animals with dignity.
[00:18:11]  And I truly believe localizing it is one of the biggest things to do take away these corporations where, like, the guy running the company, probably, you know, other than the occasional corporate walkthrough, is never around the very animals his business is using for food, right?
[00:18:31]  He's so out of touch with what's actually happening, he has no connection to the animals.
[00:18:36]  Whereas the local family farmer and rancher, they care about their farm, they care about their animals, and they care about their consumers and are more accountable to them because they live in the same community they feed.
[00:18:48]  Yeah.
[00:18:48]  Spot on.
[00:18:49]  That's exactly right.
[00:18:50]  That's why we just really need to have local and regional food systems, which we're striving for, that feeds our communities.
[00:19:00]  Let's all work together to achieve that.
[00:19:02]  Let's quit depending on foreign beef companies, foreign companies for our seed and chemicals.
[00:19:08]  We're bringing, we're importing a large part of our fruit and vegetable.
[00:19:13]  We don't even feed ourselves anymore.
[00:19:17]  We raise feed.
[00:19:18]  And fuel crops in the United States, the bulk of it.
[00:19:22]  And we need to start feeding ourselves.
[00:19:24]  That, if nothing, one for the health of it that we just talked about, but second, just from a national security, food security, national security.
[00:19:33]  We're dependent upon foreign companies.
[00:19:35]  I mean, one hiccup and our grocery shelves will be bare.
[00:19:40]  Oh, yeah.
[00:19:41]  And then you also got to think too, like, I mean, when we're talking things like bio warfare, imagine like, if you really wanted to take out a population, you could deliberately.
[00:19:52]  Poison its food supply.
[00:19:54]  Like it is a national security issue to be taking in food from all these countries, especially right now, given the situation with Iran and there's a lot of conflicts going on.
[00:20:06]  Localized is always better.
[00:20:08]  So we 100% are behind you trying to fight to get things back locally.
[00:20:14]  There was something the Secretary Brooke Rollins put out on this new, if we could put up her tweet, she's, I guess, unveiling some new product of America label.
[00:20:24]  I don't know if that's anything.
[00:20:25]  You're familiar with, but she put this out.
[00:20:28]  The Department of Agriculture said, Thank you to the early adopters of the product of USA label, the new standard for meat, poultry, and egg products derived from animals exclusively born, raised, harvested, and processed in the United States.
[00:20:43]  We also have a quick sound bite from the secretary herself talking a little more about it.
[00:20:48]  So take a listen.
[00:20:51]  Rural communities across the country are fighting back against the growing number of data centers that are popping up from Texas to Oh, that is not the right clip.
[00:21:01]  We have a big issue in rural America.
[00:21:03]  I was gonna get, I was gonna, I want to get your take on that issue too, Joe.
[00:21:06]  So don't go anywhere.
[00:21:07]  Do we have the uh Secretary Rowland's product of America saw?
[00:21:11]  If we have that, let's try to find that real quick.
[00:21:15]  Thank you so much.
[00:21:15]  The product of the USA, and and again, uh, started before us, these conversations happened in the last administration, but there had never been any rulemaking on it, and so what we did.
[00:21:26]  Is ensure that for a long time you've been able to say you're a product of the USA if you're processed, if your cattle are processed in America but not raised in America.
[00:21:35]  And that was the massive loophole that we closed that previous administrations have not been willing to close.
[00:21:41]  There's a lot of lobby pressure to not close that loophole because obviously for the international corporations that's a really big deal.
[00:21:52]  And the research shows that if you claim you're a product of the USA, Our customers will obviously gravitate, even for a little more money, will want that product.
[00:22:01]  So we closed that loophole.
[00:22:02]  So now, to be able to say your product of the USA, you've got to be born here, raised here, processed here, and harvested here.
[00:22:08]  And that was the big change.
[00:22:12]  So, Joe, just your reaction to the labeling.
[00:22:16]  Well, the secretary misspoke, and it's unfortunate.
[00:22:21]  I'm the person that wrote the first complaint to USDA asking that companies could no longer.
[00:22:31]  Voluntarily, this is not mandatory country of origin labeling.
[00:22:34]  They aren't mandated, but if they chose to label, they couldn't say product of the USA unless the animal was born, raised, harvested, and processed in the United States.
[00:22:47]  I wrote the complaint, worked about a decade.
[00:22:51]  The Biden administration, Trump won the first term, took no action on it.
[00:23:00]  And then the Biden administration actually wrote the rule.
[00:23:03]  But they delayed the implementation until this year.
[00:23:08]  The secretary misspoke when she said she wrote the rule.
[00:23:12]  She did not.
[00:23:13]  However, what she did do and her team went out there and really began to promote it and pushed companies to make that change quickly.
[00:23:23]  So our hats off to her for that.
[00:23:26]  But she misspoke as it regards to the rule.
[00:23:28]  And yes, Farm Action Fund and our whole team at Farm Action, my co founder with Farm Action, Angela Huffman, and I.
[00:23:37]  We were the first ones to raise this issue as it was brought to us by the American Grass Fed Association, as those farmers were being devastated by beef coming in from Australia and being labeled as a product of the USA.
[00:23:54]  I do remember all the Australian beef dilemma there and then became the Argentinian beef.
[00:24:01]  Yeah, that's Argentinian beef.
[00:24:03]  Good old American beef.
[00:24:05]  I mean, come on, Paul.

=== Data Centers vs Water (05:27) ===

[00:24:07]  It's America.
[00:24:08]  Are we known for our burgers?
[00:24:09]  Like Italy has the Italian food.
[00:24:11]  Mexico, they've got tacos and all that.
[00:24:13]  We're known for our burgers.
[00:24:15]  It's like an American thing.
[00:24:16]  We can't be importing our beef.
[00:24:19]  That's right.
[00:24:19]  Sunday barbecue.
[00:24:21]  Yes.
[00:24:22]  All right.
[00:24:22]  So, final topic I did want to get your take on, and that was, of course, the data center.
[00:24:26]  So, let's go ahead and play that clip that we started playing a little bit ago.
[00:24:32]  Rural communities across the country are fighting back against the growing number of data centers that are popping up.
[00:24:37]  From Texas to Arizona, neighbors are raising concerns about land use and destruction.
[00:24:42]  Certainly a lot of concern.
[00:24:43]  And the pushback for these data centers, it's growing almost as fast as those data centers are being built nationwide, especially with power bills getting higher for everyday Americans.
[00:24:53]  You know, data centers are the backbone of AI driven technology, and some of the country's rural communities are torn over them.
[00:25:01]  These facilities run 24 7 and they use an enormous amount of electricity.
[00:25:06]  Sometimes As much as a small city in itself, utility companies say keeping up with that kind of demand isn't cheap, and some communities say they changed the land too.
[00:25:16]  Recently, we sold land for a data center, and that's what specifically this is about.
[00:25:20]  Flooding occurs when it rains, and there's no safe, accessible, multi-mode transportation corridor.
[00:25:25]  However, you managed to plow a road for the data center fiber, but we can't walk on it because there are signs that say no trespassing.
[00:25:33]  Definitely something to watch ahead of the midterms, Mark.
[00:25:39]  So, data centers, what can you tell us about, you know, what's being done to sort of protect the farmer from the repercussions of these AI data centers?
[00:25:50]  Well, I think one, I think that everybody is correct.
[00:25:57]  There's too many unanswered questions.
[00:26:00]  The data centers are using a huge amount of power, and too often, states and our local Electric companies are willing to give breaks to these data centers and then push that cost off on the rest of us.
[00:26:18]  Well, these data centers should be at least required to carry their own weight.
[00:26:24]  If the billionaires want to build data centers, okay, well, then just like China did, they should have to build their own power source and maintain their own power source and not push that cost off on the rest of us.
[00:26:37]  There's also going to be high use of water, and water is getting to be a rare commodity.
[00:26:44]  Just go out west.
[00:26:45]  So I think that these data centers are ill conceived as it relates to who's going to actually pay and bear the brunt of this cost.
[00:26:55]  And we farmers use a lot of power too.
[00:26:58]  So we're in the fray, but it's not just us, it's other folks in our towns and our communities that are seeing the harm that they can have.
[00:27:07]  This gentleman on this clip talked about a road.
[00:27:10]  Our counties are willing to plow a road immediately.
[00:27:14]  And lower taxes and give abatements that hurt our school districts, all because of a data center that doesn't really have that high of an employment base.
[00:27:23]  This is just a fraud against the people.
[00:27:26]  I agree.
[00:27:26]  We're going to have to stay on top of the data center thing because I know, you know, with the Trump administration wanting to win sort of the AI race here, it is relatively new in the grand scheme of things.
[00:27:38]  So a lot of these sort of unintended consequences with the water and things like that aren't really being given the attention they deserve.
[00:27:46]  We have, One last tweet here we can put up.
[00:27:48]  There's a gubernatorial candidate in Florida, James Fishback, that sort of made me realize this, right?
[00:27:55]  He said AI data centers can use up to 500,000 gallons of water a day.
[00:27:59]  They will make our droughts catastrophically worse.
[00:28:02]  As governor, well, that's what he's going to do is ban the construction of them and stuff.
[00:28:07]  But it is a legitimate concern when you think about a lot of the states across the country deal with the droughts.
[00:28:13]  Farmers have to deal with the droughts.
[00:28:15]  When you add in these AI data centers that require all these gallons, Of water to keep them cool because they just require so much electricity, it really does pose sort of a national security crisis when you're using that water that could be used to sustain people through droughts, but instead to sort of fund these AI projects.
[00:28:38]  That's right.
[00:28:40]  I think it's always great for a country to want to keep up with technology.
[00:28:43]  If you get behind, then somebody else will have all the power.
[00:28:48]  But you shouldn't rush so fast that it's ill conceived and that the people have to bear the brunt.
[00:28:53]  There's going to be a lot of money made on this AI, lots of money.
[00:28:58]  Billionaires are going to only be more of them, and the ones that exist are only going to be getting richer.
[00:29:04]  So it's about pushing the cost and then analyzing the water, especially in some regions that are already short of water.
[00:29:13]  Amen.
[00:29:13]  Well, thank you so much, Joe Maxwell, for joining us today.
[00:29:17]  We want to put your website up here on the screen for people to go and just sort of get involved with what he's doing, fighting for the farmer and rancher here.
[00:29:25]  You know, go support him, get involved.
[00:29:28]  And, Joe, you'll have to keep us updated on what happens down there next week.

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=== Act Blue Election Fraud (14:45) ===

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[00:32:51]  Welcome back, everybody.
[00:32:53]  Things are heating up in election integrity world.
[00:32:55]  I want to put this article up on the screen for you.
[00:32:58]  We have a headline from Gateway Pundit that says Five Act Blue employees plead the fifth on 146 questions during House judiciary depositions.
[00:33:10]  Every member of legal and compliance was fired, quit, or on extended leave from platform in 2025.
[00:33:17]  And joining us now, the author of the article, Brian Lupo of Gateway Pundit and Badlands Media.
[00:33:24]  Brian, thanks for joining us.
[00:33:26]  Hey, Heather, how are you doing?
[00:33:27]  Good to be here.
[00:33:28]  Yeah, good to have you on in a hot minute.
[00:33:30]  So I'm excited to have you back on and dive into some of this election stuff going on.
[00:33:35]  What can you tell us there about the Act Blue scandal that seems to be plaguing social media right now?
[00:33:41]  So, the Act Blue thing, I mean, this is something that we, me personally, the Gateway Pundit, you know, James O'Keefe broke the story initially.
[00:33:50]  Peter Berniger and his team are the ones that uncovered all of this.
[00:33:53]  It is one of, I think, the most pivotal things in the whole sphere of election integrity because it's how they're funding the campaigns.
[00:34:01]  And it's coming out now.
[00:34:02]  I mean, it's been out for a while, but it's coming out through Congress now the actual corruption that's taking place in Act Blue.
[00:34:10]  And the House Judiciary GOP put out, you know, some clips and segments of the depositions.
[00:34:16]  That they took yesterday, or I think it was either yesterday or the day before, with five members, former employees of Act Blue.
[00:34:25]  And as the headline says, they were asked 146 questions and they took the fifth on every single question, which again, every American has the right to take the Fifth Amendment, but it's a little bit concerning.
[00:34:37]  The most concerning part, though, is some of the documents that the House Judiciary GOP was able to obtain show that going all the way back to 2024, There's been kind of this mass exodus from Act Blue, especially in the legal and compliance departments, where you had senior executives.
[00:34:54]  There was a New York Times reported on this back in March of 2025, I believe.
[00:34:59]  You had senior executives from Act Blue that were leaving, and they actually reported there was a guy named Zane Ahmad, who was the general counsel, headed the general counsel.
[00:35:09]  He was completely cut off from his email, all of his Slack messages were deleted.
[00:35:15]  And we now find out through the House Judiciary GOP that.
[00:35:19]  In order to restore that access, the top official in the HR department at ActBlue gave him back the access under the condition, and I don't know if this was known to Ahmad or not, that they could spy on his emails.
[00:35:34]  And so you see this kind of concerning behavior there, where one of the stipulations with Ahmad was that he would cooperate, or excuse me, the other officials that left is that they would cooperate with ActBlue with future investigations.
[00:35:47]  So, you know, again, there seems to be in that, this is the one thing I think Congress is not.
[00:35:54]  Fully putting out there yet.
[00:35:56]  This seems to be really focused on foreign investments and foreign campaign donations into our elections.
[00:36:04]  But if you listen to what Peter Berniger's team has uncovered, a lot of this is U.S. taxpayer money.
[00:36:11]  And so when you see these things that we talk about all the time, right?
[00:36:15]  The gender studies in Pakistan.
[00:36:17]  Let's send $100 million over to gender studies in Pakistan or study birds in Cambodia, those types of things.
[00:36:23]  Berniger's team found that a lot of this money gets laundered back.
[00:36:27]  Into the United States.
[00:36:28]  So, this is actually taxpayer money that gets sent overseas and then a sliver of it, a portion of it gets laundered back into the United States and dispersed through Act Blue and Win Red to political campaigns.
[00:36:42]  Now, according to Berniger, it's about 85% Act Blue, 15% Win Red.
[00:36:48]  And you can see this for yourself.
[00:36:49]  This is the craziest part about this, Heather, you can actually validate this stuff yourself by going to the FEC's website.
[00:36:57]  Downloading the Excel spreadsheets and searching retired people in your zip code, and you'll see literally people that make hundreds of $1, $2, $3 donations.
[00:37:08]  And if you actually go and ask these people, and I've done this, I've done the legwork like James O'Keefe did.
[00:37:14]  My neighbor, three houses down, donated over $900.
[00:37:17]  He has no idea where any of that money came from.
[00:37:20]  It's not him.
[00:37:21]  This is fraud that they're using his name to launder this money to the campaigns.
[00:37:26]  And it's absolutely sickening what they're doing with U.S. taxpayer funds in this.
[00:37:32]  So, essentially, what's going on for people that maybe aren't up to speed?
[00:37:37]  They haven't seen the James O'Keefe stuff.
[00:37:39]  Like, so ActBlue is it what they're doing is they're taking people's information who made legitimate contributions, whether to Republicans or Democrats, whatever.
[00:37:48]  And then you're in the system and then they're making additional contributions, not necessarily with your money, but with foreign money, laundered money in your name.
[00:38:00]  So that when you look up your own name, it will show all these donations that you've never made.
[00:38:06]  Accurate assessment?
[00:38:07]  Yes, that's spot on.
[00:38:09]  Yep.
[00:38:10]  Okay.
[00:38:10]  So then this moves us to sort of the next Act Blue topic here.
[00:38:15]  Attorney General Ken Paxton, he put out this tweet saying he just filed a landmark lawsuit against Act Blue for deceiving Americans by lying about its donation processes that allow fraudulent and foreign donations.
[00:38:29]  I know you also wrote about this over on the Gateway Pundit.
[00:38:32]  What can you tell us about the lawsuit and what does it seek to ultimately do?
[00:38:37]  So, Ken Paxton, Attorney General Ken Paxton, has been very much involved in this investigation for a couple of years now.
[00:38:45]  And it seems, according to that press release right there, that his team was actually able to recreate the process of doing these foreign donations without checking the identification of the person that's donating.
[00:38:59]  And so, again, going back to the work that Berniger and his team did, what it basically seems like is happening is they're using gift cards.
[00:39:07]  To do these donations.
[00:39:08]  So you can go online to ActBlue or WinRed and make these donations using gift cards.
[00:39:13]  Now, anybody that's ever made a purchase on Amazon or anything online knows that they always ask you for the CVV number, which is the credit verification number.
[00:39:22]  It ensures that you're using a credit card, a debit card, and that it's your card, right?
[00:39:27]  Because you can't donate to American campaigns, American political campaigns, if you're a foreigner.
[00:39:32]  But ActBlue, I know for sure, was not gathering that CVV information.
[00:39:38]  They were not asking you for that.
[00:39:40]  So you could use gift cards.
[00:39:41]  To make these donations.
[00:39:43]  And back in 2022, Marco Rubio actually introduced a bill to require these donation platforms to accept the credit cards based on, excuse me, to accept credit cards and require them to get the CVV number, you know, to capture that when you're filling out the application.
[00:40:04]  It was a one sentence bill, Heather, one sentence, and it never made it out of committee.
[00:40:10]  The most fundamental.
[00:40:12]  Possible securing of the donation process, ensuring that it's American citizens that are donating to these campaigns, and it never made it out of committee.
[00:40:22]  Brian Stile also introduced similar legislation, never made it out of committee.
[00:40:26]  Yeah, so it's funny because I remember when the Act Blue stuff came out, it was like, oh, the Democrats are cheating, they're laundering money.
[00:40:32]  But lo and behold, Win Red, the Republican version of Act Blue, is sort of being caught up in the same scandal.
[00:40:40]  We have a tweet here that a gentleman put out where he had the numbers, right?
[00:40:46]  If we could put that on the screen, it says, all you have to do is look at the Win Red numbers to know how bleak it is for them.
[00:40:53]  The key races are nowhere to be found in their top fundraising for the cycle.
[00:40:57]  And then it also got the attention of Trump advisor Alan Brusiewicz, who said, Hey, if we could put that on the screen, WinRed, why do you keep refusing to answer this simple question?
[00:41:10]  Why have you already pocketed $2.8 million in direct contributions this cycle on top of your sky high 3.94% processing fee on every donation?
[00:41:21]  The Republican Party handed you a virtual monopoly eight years ago, yet you still gouge patriotic small donors.
[00:41:30]  So, like, what's really happening with WinRed?
[00:41:32]  Red, Brian.
[00:41:34]  Is it the same exact playbook?
[00:41:36]  Yeah.
[00:41:36]  So, and again, this is out of my wheelhouse, but from what I understand, the software that's being used by ActBlue was also somehow passed on to WinRed.
[00:41:45]  And again, that's out of my wheelhouse, but the ratio is about 8515.
[00:41:51]  And again, this is something when I looked into the data myself on fec.gov, I was able to find WinRed.
[00:41:57]  Again, not anywhere near the volume that ActBlue is doing, but when we want to clean up our elections, it starts with the money in our elections.
[00:42:06]  Campaigns.
[00:42:07]  And, you know, for us to just sit there, and this is, you know, to be fair, Congress is not mentioning anything about Win Red right now.
[00:42:14]  It's all the focus is on Act Blue.
[00:42:16]  And, you know, you got to make sure that we're playing the game fair.
[00:42:20]  I mean, you can't just call out fraud when it's your team, you know, quote unquote team, that's the one that's going to benefit from it.
[00:42:26]  You got to call it out on both sides.
[00:42:28]  If we want free and fair elections in this country, it has to be bipartisan accountability for things like this.
[00:42:36]  Alex actually also called out some more fraud with WinRed.
[00:42:40]  We have another tweet from him, if we can put that on the screen.
[00:42:42]  A woman had actually said that she donated $100 as a one time donation and luckily looked at her credit card transactions two days later and they were charging her $100 a day.
[00:42:55]  They refused to seize, and I had to close my credit card to stop it.
[00:43:00]  I mean, these sort of practices, like especially for a lot of the Americans that donated to President Trump and a lot of the other campaigns, often live paycheck to paycheck.
[00:43:09]  So, Even an extra $100 or $200 coming out can cause them to overdraw their accounts, can really hurt some of the American families that are so pressed by the inflation and everything else going on right now.
[00:43:21]  That's like, when are people going to go to jail for this, Brian, on both the ActBlue side, on the WinRed side?
[00:43:28]  Because this is far more than just incompetence.
[00:43:30]  This is like blatant theft of American money here.
[00:43:34]  Yeah, I'm with you.
[00:43:35]  So, in a situation like that, yeah, that's blatant theft.
[00:43:38]  The problem is, and this is why it doesn't really get that much attention, is with the ActBlue and WinRed smurfing stuff.
[00:43:45]  They're not actually giving money.
[00:43:47]  So when you see these, like, say, for instance, they use Heather's name, Heather donates a dollar a day 300 times to act blue or 200 times to win red.
[00:43:58]  You're not actually giving the money.
[00:44:00]  Your identity is just being used to launder that money.
[00:44:03]  And so not only do you have campaign violations and ethics violations, but you also have money, excuse me, identity theft, right?
[00:44:10]  Your identity is being used.
[00:44:12]  That's fraud to use somebody else's identity.
[00:44:15]  And these people could end up.
[00:44:16]  I mean, you know, the James O'Keefe expose and some of the stuff Berniger's uncovered, you're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars that some people have been, you know, alleged to have donated to these campaigns unknowingly.
[00:44:28]  That could have tax implications as well, I would imagine.
[00:44:33]  So, I'm just curious to see when we're going to start seeing the perp walks because there's just been so much fraud on the election side of things, on the Medicare side of things, on the daycare side of things.
[00:44:48]  It's just like fraud everywhere.
[00:44:50]  But when are we going to start seeing the real high profile brains behind these organized operations getting locked away and put behind bars where they belong?
[00:45:01]  There is one investigation that gave me a little bit of hope.
[00:45:05]  A little bit of hopium here in Election Integrity World.
[00:45:07]  That was the raid there in Fulton County.
[00:45:09]  They seized some ballots and stuff like that.
[00:45:11]  We have a tweet from Kevin Moncla, who posted this update saying the court has granted his motion for leave and accepted our amicus brief in opposition to Fulton County's amended petition.
[00:45:23]  This is in the Fulton County v. United States case.
[00:45:27]  What can you tell us about that case?
[00:45:30]  So, the amicus brief that Moncla, and I think there were a couple other individuals that signed on to that as well.
[00:45:37]  That was submitted.
[00:45:38]  So the election oversight group is his group, and they are, you know, they had a report out, a 26 count, I believe, report that outlined a lot of the fraud that they uncovered, or not the fraud, you can't say fraud, but the issues, the discrepancies, the lack of certified, excuse me, chain of custody records, documents, the miscounts on the hand count and the machine recounts.
[00:46:06]  All of that stuff was laid out in their report.
[00:46:09]  And You know, when the DOJ went through the lawsuit in Pitts v. United States, the DOJ did a fantastic job of litigating that from the perspective of the Fulton County does not have Fourth Amendment rights because it's a government institution.
[00:46:22]  It doesn't have the same rights that are afforded to private citizens of the United States.
[00:46:26]  But they didn't really get much in the way of backing up the claims that were, you know, that the EOG report was wrong or inaccurate, whatever the case might be.
[00:46:37]  And so they filed that amicus brief in order to kind of back that up and bolster the evidence in there.
[00:46:43]  Now, interestingly, Heather, there was a report that came out from States United, and it's allegedly a rebuttal to the EOG report.
[00:46:51]  And if you know anything about States United, I'm sure you know some of the quote unquote deep state actors that are involved with that organization.
[00:47:01]  They put out a report that was signed off by people like Ryan Macias and Stephen Richard of Maricopa County.
[00:47:08]  And I thought that was really interesting.
[00:47:10]  They did not file it with the court, so it is just a report that they put out for the Court of Public Opinion.
[00:47:16]  To win over people and peddle their no widespread fraud.
[00:47:20]  And the authoritative sources told us that everything was fine.

=== Maricopa County Report (09:57) ===

[00:47:23]  Meanwhile, I just had Richard, Steven Richard, on my podcast.
[00:47:28]  Hat tip to him for coming on.
[00:47:29]  But he was on my podcast late December with Kevin, and we were debating the 315,000 votes that were attributed to the tabulator tapes that were unsigned.
[00:47:41]  And over the last couple of days, I've been going back and kind of clipping that in line with his report.
[00:47:48]  He got really smart on Georgia elections in three months because when he was talking with Kevin and I and Ash Epp on our show, he was not tracking.
[00:47:57]  I mean, he couldn't, he didn't know that the Federalist was talking about tabulator closing tapes and instead, you know, misconstrued that as zero tapes.
[00:48:06]  There's a lot of information that he wasn't privy to.
[00:48:09]  So he got really smart in that three month period when he wrote a 58 page report debunking the 26 count report from the election oversight group.
[00:48:19]  That's funny.
[00:48:19]  But the report he put out is not being put under oath anywhere.
[00:48:26]  It's not standing up to courtroom level scrutiny.
[00:48:31]  It's just here's something I wrote, I'm putting it out there.
[00:48:34]  Yeah.
[00:48:34]  Yep.
[00:48:35]  He puts it out there.
[00:48:36]  So the mainstream media, the mockingbird media will pick it up and they'll be like, oh, well, trusted authoritative source, Stephen Ritcher and Ryan Macias, who have worked in elections for so long, they said that it's all debunked.
[00:48:48]  Yeah.
[00:48:49]  I mean, I would love if you could ask them next time he's on the show, ask him, you know, speaking of Maricopa County, like, whatever happened to those like thousands of blank password queries that were done on the systems right before they handed it over to the audit team so that it flushed out all the data that the audit team needed to look at?
[00:49:06]  Do you remember that big scandal?
[00:49:08]  That was, I'll never forget that one.
[00:49:11]  I was like, so you're telling me a court subpoenaed these servers and then literally in the days before they were supposed to hand them over, somebody went and pressed a button thousands and thousands of times.
[00:49:22]  So that it flushed out the oldest data gets deleted first and the newest data as the newest data comes in.
[00:49:29]  And so they flushed out all of the stuff that the audit team needed to look at.
[00:49:34]  That to me is like a blatant cover up, right?
[00:49:37]  But that just got swept under the rug.
[00:49:39]  But now he wants to weigh in on Georgia's stuff when he doesn't even have his own backyard in order.
[00:49:44]  So, you know, shout out to you and Kevin too, because, you know, you and I and Kevin, we've been in this election integrity space.
[00:49:52]  Like, even when it wasn't popular to do so, it's so easy to see so many media outlets talking about some of these issues now that President Trump's in office and he's sending the FBI to go raid Fulton County.
[00:50:05]  And so they're all running with their headlines, they're talking about it on their podcast.
[00:50:08]  But none of them were there when we were talking about it while Fonnie Willis was arresting all of the people that were exposing it, that were looking into it.
[00:50:20]  I mean, people were literally going to jail and getting falsely arrested.
[00:50:24]  For looking into the election stuff there in Fulton County.
[00:50:27]  And you were one of the people talking about it.
[00:50:29]  Kevin was one of the people digging into it.
[00:50:32]  Charlie Kirk, God rest his soul, gave me a platform to come on his show and talk about it.
[00:50:37]  But it was a very small group of people willing to talk about these problems while the White House was occupied by the Biden administration.
[00:50:46]  And so that's why I love bringing people like you on because you've been in the trenches now for so long.
[00:50:52]  And I appreciate all your work.
[00:50:54]  And so let's hit this one last topic and we'll end in Arizona.
[00:50:59]  Of course, Arizona.
[00:51:01]  We have an article here.
[00:51:03]  Where is it here?
[00:51:04]  From Justin Heap is undermining, not restoring voters' trust.
[00:51:10]  It's time for him to go, says the fake news media.
[00:51:15]  Justin Heap making a splash.
[00:51:17]  I hear there's a big victory.
[00:51:18]  Are you up to date with this?
[00:51:21]  Yep.
[00:51:21]  I actually wrote an article about that victory in Maricopa County.
[00:51:26]  So, In Maricopa County, going back to Steven Richard, right before Steven Richard left office, excuse me, not right after he lost to Justin Heap in the June 2024 or July 2024 primary, he entered into an agreement with the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and delegated a lot of the recorder's authority to the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, including IT.
[00:51:51]  You know, all the IT staff was moved over there, including a $5 million budget that came along with that.
[00:51:58]  The process for the mail in ballot processing board, selecting those members, that was delegated to the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.
[00:52:06]  And when Justin Heap won the election in November of 2024, and after he took office from Stephen Richard, Justin Heap said, Hey, I want these powers back.
[00:52:16]  And Maricopa County said, No, we're not going to give them back.
[00:52:18]  And in fact, if we have to, we have discretion over funding for the Maricopa County Recorder's Office.
[00:52:25]  So tread lightly.
[00:52:27]  And Justin Heap said, Challenge accepted.
[00:52:29]  Let's go to court.
[00:52:30]  And the courts ruled.
[00:52:31]  That if Stephen Richard had the authority as the Maricopa County recorder to delegate statutory authority to the recorder's office, you know, legislated to his office, if he delegated it away, then the recorder absolutely can claw it back whenever he wants.
[00:52:48]  And they ruled in his favor.
[00:52:50]  So Justin Heap will have those powers returning to the Maricopa County recorder's office instead of the Board of Supervisors, which, you know, anybody that's done any work on Maricopa County, especially regarding elections, has a lot of questions about the.
[00:53:05]  The authenticity of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.
[00:53:10]  So, what is that now that he got this favorable ruling?
[00:53:13]  He has the powers.
[00:53:15]  What can he do with those powers going forward that's going to sort of change the landscape of the elections there?
[00:53:23]  Well, he'll have the power over the information technology now.
[00:53:29]  And so, you know, think back to the Maricopa audit and the routers and, you know, the routers that they had to go through special, right?
[00:53:38]  Shattuck, right?
[00:53:38]  John Shattuck came in and did that.
[00:53:41]  But the important thing is the mail in processing board, I believe.
[00:53:45]  The mail in balloting in Maricopa County, going back to Liz Harris and James Knox and the work that they did on their canvas in Maricopa County, never made it into the audit, unfortunately, because that would have been some good information to have out there in the public.
[00:54:00]  But those are the kinds of things they still have the issue with Runbeck keeping mail in ballots in Maricopa County.
[00:54:08]  So I'm not exactly sure what he's going to be able to do with it, but the fact that Richard was so quick to Pass that off as somebody that's an election integrity activist, Justin Heap.
[00:54:21]  It was concerning to me.
[00:54:22]  So it's good to see this.
[00:54:24]  Now let's hope that Justin Heap does something with it.
[00:54:27]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:54:27]  I mean, Kerry Lake has come out quite a few times, pretty much saying Arizona's elections are run by the cartels.
[00:54:34]  So even with this victory that he has, I mean, what is the likelihood as we head into midterms that Arizona's elections are going to produce any sort of different outcome?
[00:54:47]  Like, have we won enough of the small wins to make a difference come midterms, or is it still going to be another one of the cartel run operations?
[00:54:58]  You know, I don't know, Heather, but there has been so much going on in elections right now.
[00:55:04]  The National Intelligence Council just released, just the news, published an unclassified report about 2020 interference in the election.
[00:55:11]  Now, this was before the election, so this is the prospect of it, but that just came out.
[00:55:15]  We have obviously had Kash Patel on Maria Bartolomeo's show on Sunday saying that he's investigating the Grand Rico in the election and that we could see arrest by the end of this week.
[00:55:27]  So that was very interesting to see.
[00:55:29]  Of course, President Trump's got his executive order out there that's going to be challenged, and we'll see.
[00:55:33]  How all that comes to fruition.
[00:55:34]  We've got the Save Act.
[00:55:36]  There's a lot going right now.
[00:55:37]  And I got to believe that we're going to see something to shore this up before the 2026 midterms.
[00:55:43]  Yeah.
[00:55:44]  Cause I remember after they raided Fulton County, they're like, actually, not that long ago, there's some talk.
[00:55:51]  I don't know if it was just sort of like spur of the moment, like stuff on social media, but that potentially a raid was coming to Arizona.
[00:55:58]  I don't think that ever happened.
[00:55:59]  Oh, yeah.
[00:55:59]  No, no, no.
[00:56:00]  They went in and seized documents from Arizona.
[00:56:03]  Dead.
[00:56:03]  Okay.
[00:56:04]  So do you know what they seized in particular?
[00:56:06]  No.
[00:56:07]  Have not heard much about that.
[00:56:10]  Under wraps.
[00:56:13]  They got Puerto Rico as well, because Puerto Rico had a major issue in 2024 with their primary election.
[00:56:19]  And DNI and the FBI went down there, and Puerto Rico handed them the machines.
[00:56:25]  This was not a raid, this was not a seizure.
[00:56:27]  Puerto Rico invited them down and said, Hey, we need you to look at these Dominion machines down here.
[00:56:32]  And so that's an iron in the fire as well.
[00:56:35]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:56:37]  Really hopeful to see that, you know, if there's anything I feel like President Trump has prioritized this second term, it's been the election stuff.
[00:56:46]  You know, I know a lot of people are critical of some of the other stuff, but his sort of dog in a bone thing seems to be the election integrity issues, which I'm fine with.
[00:56:55]  If that's the one thing that we're going to fix, at least if we can fix that issue, we're essentially putting power back into the hands of the American people for generations to come because he's only in there for so long, but our elections are every couple of years.
[00:57:08]  So that has to be the top priority of the administration.
[00:57:12]  Um, you know, I will say if this message reaches uh Kash Patel, you know, one thing 2000 Mules, you did the book on it.

=== Exposing Known Election Fraud (02:14) ===

[00:57:20]  I interviewed a whistleblower in that movie that was hired by the National Republican Senatorial Committee to watch the drop boxes during the uh Senate runoff races in Georgia.
[00:57:30]  He witnessed fraud, he reported it to them, and they covered it up.
[00:57:35]  So that may be another angle you want to dig into because uh, there was an election theft and it was covered up not just by Democrats but by Republicans as well.
[00:57:45]  Brian Lupo, thank you for joining us.
[00:57:47]  Why don't you just tell people where they can go to follow your work so that they can stay on top of the incredible stuff that you're doing?
[00:57:53]  Sure.
[00:57:53]  I read it Gateway Pundit, Badlands Media.
[00:57:55]  I host a show called Why We Vote on Badlands Media as well as Badlands Daily.
[00:57:59]  And then just real quick, Heather, on the true the vote thing, we just got from the grand jury testimony of Senator David Perdue that showed that Brian Kemp and the GBI, I can't remember his name off the top of my head.
[00:58:18]  They knew that there was fraud.
[00:58:20]  Reynolds, Vic Reynolds.
[00:58:21]  There you go.
[00:58:22]  Vic Reynolds.
[00:58:23]  They knew that there was fraud and they chose not to investigate it because they wanted to be a team player.
[00:58:29]  Yeah.
[00:58:29]  I mean, you and I have been in these trenches for a long time.
[00:58:34]  Hopefully, it's all coming full circle.
[00:58:37]  So thank you so much, Brian, for joining us as always.
[00:58:40]  Thanks for having me.
[00:58:41]  Take care.
[00:58:42]  Thank you.
[00:58:43]  I mean, what a great episode.
[00:58:45]  Two great Patriots.
[00:58:47]  The first one there, Joe Maxwell on the agricultural and farming side of things.
[00:58:51]  Then you have.
[00:58:53]  Brian Lupo on the election integrity side of things.
[00:58:57]  Great episodes.
[00:58:58]  So make sure you go give them both a follow, support their work.
[00:59:01]  There's so many fronts to the war that we're fighting here in America, but we're going to win them one day and one episode at a time.
[00:59:09]  So thank you all for watching today.
[00:59:11]  Until next time.
[00:59:13]  You ever see this guy with the pillows on Fox?
[00:59:18]  My pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
[00:59:22]  He is the greatest.
[00:59:25]  The My Pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
[00:59:32]  And he's been with us right from the beginning.