Brendan Weichert and Mike Lindell investigate mysterious scientist disappearances at NASA and Los Alamos, arguing they signal a shadow war over fusion tech rather than alien abduction. They predict the Strait of Hormuz blockade lifts by May 14th following a Trump-China trade deal, while analyzing the feud between President Trump and Pope Leo XIV as a critical midterm election factor. The episode concludes by defending Greg Phillips' unconventional cancer cure against CNN criticism and highlighting John G. Trump's historical contributions to radar technology. [Automatically generated summary]
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Missing Scientists and Military Tech00:14:50
You ever see this guy with the pillows on Fox?
My pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
He is the greatest.
The My Pillow guy.
Mike Lindell.
And he's been with us right from the beginning.
Happy Tuesday, everybody.
I'm Heather Mullins filling in for Mike Lindell today.
We got a big story we're going to jump right into here.
There's been a number of scientists going missing, a number of them dying under mysterious circumstances, so many that it's even captured the attention of the legacy media.
Let's take a listen to this clip from Fox News as they detail some of the important people that have either gone missing or died under mysterious circumstances.
Take a listen.
The story that caught our attention.
We're talking about a number of U.S. scientists, some connected to very sensitive research, who have died or disappeared.
Let's break down what we know so far.
We're going to start with Carl Grillmar.
Carl Grillmar, pictured here, was an astrophysicist at Caltech.
He worked on a NASA supported space telescope project and infrared systems.
Now, he was shot and killed at his home just two months ago.
Then there's Frank Maywald.
He was a senior scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab focused on advanced satellite systems, and he died nearly two years ago.
But his cause of death has never been made public.
Meanwhile, Monica Reza.
Monica Reza also reportedly connected to NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab project.
She went missing last summer while hiking in California.
No trace.
It keeps going.
There's William McCaslin, a retired Air Force general.
He too is missing.
He's a former head of Air Force Research Lab and oversaw advanced space and surveillance programs.
He's been missing.
Since February.
Reports say he once oversaw funding connected to a project that also included Monica Reza.
Now, there's more to New Mexico.
Melissa Casais.
She has been missing since last summer.
She worked at Los Alamos National Lab.
She had an administrative role, but reportedly also had security clearances.
Just months earlier, she went missing, so too did Anthony Chavez, also connected to Los Alamos, an engineer.
He disappeared during a walk.
No signs, no answers.
And then finally, there's Nuno Lerrero.
You remember Nuno Lerrero?
He was the MIT researcher focused on nuclear fusion and was shot and killed in his Massachusetts home last December.
It was the case of the Brown shooter.
It's a separate case with no confirmed links to the others.
But here's the key point Authorities have not connected these cases, but look at the overlap.
The same handful of institutions NASA, Air Force Research, Los Alamos Laboratory.
So, could they be connected?
Or is this something else entirely?
And apparently, there's been scientists going missing in China as well, connected to similar research.
Joining us now to break all of this down is Brendan Weichert, who is a national security expert that frequents Lindell TV often.
Thank you for joining us, Brendan.
Thank you for having me.
And I would just like to give a shout out to the person who published this piece I worked on.
I'm the Natsec guy on Emerald.tv.
So you can find the full article there, Emerald.tv, in the Natsec guy section.
But thanks for having me.
Yeah, so Emerald sent me that article that you did, sort of diving into these missing scientists.
What do you make of the whole thing?
Do you believe they're connected?
And is there any sort of federal investigation going on right now into those connections, possibly?
Well, there are investigations going on.
I am sure there's also a security investigation going on.
These people were all oddly killed.
They all, as you note, had similar jobs, similar backgrounds, security clearances.
So, normally there is at least a cursory investigation that goes on when such high level people are killed.
The real interesting thing for me as a China watcher, as you noted, and I made this the point of my article at Emerald.tv, which is that these five Chinese scientists working for their military on very similar technologies to what the American scientists were working on for our military, those five Chinese scientists have all disappeared as well.
And normally, you know, You might say, well, that was part of the purge.
Remember at the beginning of the new year, Xi Jinping started purging all these people from top level Chinese positions because it was part of him reasserting control.
It is not likely that is what happened here because the scientists that were removed from the Chinese Academy of Sciences were very important people, hard to replace.
They were integral to the Chinese hypersonic weapons program, integral to the Chinese metamaterial program.
Integral to all these different nuclear fusion projects.
It's hard to replace people like that.
And also, they were a lot of them relatively young.
I think the youngest scientist that was killed was 55 years old.
These were people who probably did not die of natural circumstances.
So, you know, it seems like, in my opinion, there might be some shadow boxing here going on between our intelligence services, possibly, and the Chinese intelligence services, where we're killing each other's top scientists or disappearing them as part of the, you know, this ongoing.
World war going on in the shadows between China and the United States.
I mean, do you think they're like, do you think they're killing them or like, cause knowledge like that, that some of these people have is so valuable in terms of, you know, winning sort of the way, the race here and with technology and weaponry and things like that.
So wouldn't it make, I guess, more sense if you were going to want to, you know, hurt your opposition to maybe take them captive, try to extract the information that they know?
Or do we think that they're just, you know, killing them essentially?
It might be that they're kidnapping them and maybe torturing them for information, but the point is they've been disappeared without a trace now, in some cases for years.
The Air Force, the general that disappeared, I think it's very important to note.
I've actually consulted before with the Air Force Research Laboratory, AFRL, which is the group that he commanded at one point.
This guy is a very integral player, and I know he was retired, but you're never fully retired from a job like that.
He apparently.
Got up and left.
That is that he just in the middle of the afternoon, UPS guy dropped a package off at his home in Arizona.
He opened the door, took the package.
It was in the afternoon.
Sometime thereafter, he apparently left his wallet, left his keys to his car and home.
His go bag was missing, as what I'm told.
And apparently, he even, it sounds like, took the household firearm and might have trekked into the desert.
In his backyard, almost like he knew something was coming and he wanted to get out of Dodge.
So he could be in the wind.
He might not be kidnapped.
He might not be dead.
He might be on the run somewhere.
Who knows?
But the point is that there's something deeply suspicious going on with key scientists involved in next generation military technologies.
Some people say it's related to aliens.
I don't think so.
I suspect this is related to next generation military technologies of the kind that will be instrumental if.
God forbid the US and China actually do go to war with each other by taking these scientists out, whether it's kidnapping or disappearing or killing them.
We are basically denying the Chinese access to these thought leaders.
And if the Chinese are doing the same thing, then it's the same logic.
They're denying us access to these thought leaders at a time when we need them most.
So, do you think that's what the whole alien stuff we're seeing on social media is really tied to some of this stuff with these missing scientists?
Because we have a tweet here that we can put on the screen.
Today was supposed to be the deadline.
I guess Representative Anna Paulina Luna put out requests for these 46 UAP videos, I guess, from the Pentagon.
They want these videos of all of these different sightings and I guess like 46 different, I believe they're all videos.
Can you tell us about that?
And do you think they're connected to this?
Situation with the missing scientists?
I think a lot.
Well, I think there might be a connection, but again, I am one of the few people who's not convinced that there are captured alien saucers and alien bodies.
I think what that story is, is a long running.
This is my opinion.
This is, you know, I think that whole alien storyline is a long running psychological operation conducted by the U.S. military to deflect from the fact that they are.
Developing next generation high end exotic technologies in the desert.
This is all a theory of mine, but I am very skeptical.
I don't believe it's aliens.
Whenever they say it's aliens, I always start going, oh boy, here we go.
I don't believe it's aliens.
I think that is a deflection to get people looking for little green men when the reality is that we have some really impressive technologies in our desert that we've been playing with for decades.
The Chinese and the Russians are developing probably similar technologies in their secret.
Places, and it's a quiet arms race.
And nobody wants to admit yet that we have these technologies because everybody's trying to prevent that quiet arms race from breaking out loudly.
Because, as you know, that could very easily precipitate a world war using these new technologies.
So there's sort of this dance going on.
So when we talk about disclosure day, I think Anna Paulina Luna is probably sincere.
She wants the information released.
And I think that the military is going to drag their feet, probably, partly to continue the psyop.
Keep the mystery going.
But ultimately, I don't really think there's much there.
I think the real story is the technologies we're playing with in the desert that are probably very much of human design.
They're just really far ahead of what is known to the public, and nobody wants to talk about it.
And, you know, these scientists were probably on some level intimately involved in that creation of new technology.
So, I mean, we've heard from Congressman Matt, or well, former Congressman Matt Gaetz has come out talking about some of those weapons that he himself says he's seen some stuff, other stuff he's heard about, but hasn't seen.
I think it was Tim Burchett, it was another one.
And both of them say that, like, what they've seen is unexplainable given today's technology.
I mean, they don't necessarily say aliens.
Well, actually, Matt Gaetz claims that some uniformed military person showed up to him saying they were.
They were.
Did you see that video of apparently the same thing with aliens or something crazy like that?
Yeah, well, you know, it wouldn't be the first time the military runs a PSYOP on Congress itself.
I mean, this is a just go back for how many years did the military or did the intelligence services cover up MKUltra and other, you know, secretive programs that weren't revealed until the church committee?
And the church committee didn't get to the bottom of all these things that was, you know, canceled in the after the 1970s.
So there are the, the, Congress only gets what the intelligence and military, you know, secret departments want them to hear.
So, you know, it's possible that this person who showed up at Matt Gaetz's doorstep was part of the disinformation.
It's possible that he doesn't even know that he's dealing in disinformation, this person that told this to Gaetz.
Saying something is inexplicable doesn't mean it's alien.
You know, the Nazis in the Second World War at a place called Peenamunda were developing.
Exotic technology that some have speculated are the origin of the so called Foo Fighters, of which the band is named after.
The Foo Fighters of World War II, these glowing orbs that would come up when our bombers were flying over Nazi Germany to bomb them, and they would mess with the engines on our bombers.
And our bombing pilots said it has to be something otherworldly.
Well, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence to suggest the Nazis were developing high spinning mercury orbs at Pinamunda.
That had an electromagnetic effect on the propeller engines of Allied planes.
So back then, people thought that was aliens.
People thought that the Messerschmitt jet engine, people don't remember.
The Nazis created the first jet fighter in 1944, 45.
And that to the Americans was alien technology.
So there is a possibility that there is a segment of our bloated government, our military industrial complex, that is so secretive and compartmented off that they've been light years ahead of what is known conventionally in terms of military technology.
That if a sitting congressman somehow saw that, they would think, oh, this must be from the other planets, when really it's not.
It's spun off from very human advanced technology.
Yeah, you know, one of the things that comes to mind is just sort of some of the, I guess you would say theories, but they actually exist the direct energy weapons that a lot of people suspected that with the Palisades and with the Maui fires,
it wasn't necessarily like some people think that it wasn't this organic fire that just destroyed this stuff, that it was possibly direct energy weapons used to essentially use like a laser to start fires and then seize property as like a land grab.
And so there's a lot of people that believe that's what happened with Maui and the Palisades.
Middle East Blockade Tensions00:15:07
Well, and I can just tell you that some of those scientists, both in the United States and China, who have gone disappear, who have, excuse me, been disappeared, they were working on directed energy programs.
So it is very, and by the way, this is a very troubling development.
The US Navy supposedly has struggled for 25 years to develop its directed energy weapon program, whereas in the last decade, China has made significant positive strides in their own directed energy weapon program relative to our own.
Which means that in this key strategic technology, it looks like the Chinese are now ahead of the United States in developing directed energy weapons.
So, this is all a possibility.
None of it, though, leads me to think there must be little green men at the end of that particular road.
Yeah, well, as fun as that would be, as fun as that would be.
I feel like if there are aliens, Elon Musk would know.
And he repeatedly says that there's no aliens.
And I think once he actually told people he was an alien, and just to get a laugh out of people, but.
Which I would actually believe that more than the little green thing, you know?
Like Elon Musk could pass as an alien in my book, but.
Possibly a robot.
Actually, maybe Mark Zuckerberg, too.
I feel like all the social media guys have that.
All the tech bros.
I believe you.
Yes, yes.
Well, they're all engineers and scientists by training.
So, yes, that's not surprising.
Yeah.
So, speaking of China, right?
There's a lot of talk on what's happening with the Strait of Hormuz.
Want to get your take on that?
Where do we actually stand?
I know CENTCOM put out this tweet.
If we can put that on the screen, where it says more than 10,000 U.S. sailors, Marines, and airmen, along with over a dozen warships and dozens of aircraft, are executing the mission to blockade ships entering and departing Iranian ports.
During the first 24 hours, no ships made it past the U.S. blockade, and six merchant vessels complied with direction from U.S. forces to turn around and re enter an Iranian port on the Gulf of Oman.
Or Omen, whatever.
Yeah.
You had put out something saying that there was a Chinese ship.
I know Bannon's War Room reported that it was turned around.
You're saying, no, that ship made it through.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
What I said was initially I posted that, but then a colleague of mine tweeted at me saying, no, no, it's turned around.
So I tweeted again saying, at this point, I have no idea because there's so much mis and disinformation about this war.
So I just basically posted both stories and I'm going to let people.
Give me inputs because to me, just going off of the satellite data is insufficient, particularly because the cargo ship in question, the Starry, I can't remember, I think it's the Rick Starry or something, something Starry, the Starry Mist, that ship is known to the US Navy for messing with their transponder, for doing what's known as spoofing to make it look like their ship is somewhere else than it really is.
So until we have actual confirmation that this ship is, in fact, sitting back in the Strait of Hormuz.
I'm telling people, I'm not making a determination anymore because this morning, every major outlet from around the world was reporting that at least one of those two Chinese ships went through the strait and made it out.
Now there's a lot of people saying, no, no, no, they're still there.
They made it out of the Strait of Hormuz, but the naval blockade is out in the Gulf of Oman.
So they're sitting there.
Other people are saying that at least one of them turned around and went back to the port in Iran.
We have no idea.
The point is, though, that I am very skeptical that the Chinese ships are going to be held back for very long.
And the reason I say that is because the president of the United States, while he may want to hurt China economically, he also wants to get deals with China, trade deals.
He doesn't want China to cut us off from rare earth minerals.
So he's got to do a tightrope thing where, yeah, he wants to hurt China economically by, however, temporarily cutting them off from access to these energy flows and these trade flows in the strait, but he ultimately can't go too far.
Because next month he wants to meet in Beijing with the president of China and get the mother of all trade deals.
He's not going to get that if he's still holding up Chinese trade or if he intends to basically stop all trade coming out of Iran going to China indefinitely.
What's probably happening here is he's going to use the blockade for the next three weeks, four weeks to get leverage on Beijing.
Then he's going to go to Beijing on May 14th and say, okay, I'll drop the blockade if you give us, you know, Positive deals on trade, whatever.
I don't believe, though, that this blockade is going to take down the Chinese economy.
And I certainly don't believe the president is planning to indefinitely stop up Chinese ships coming out of Iran, going into Iran, because that would be an act of war.
And ultimately, the Chinese would respond in some fashion to that.
I think right now, everybody's kind of going to their neutral corners because I think fundamentally everybody knows Trump is not really going to take this to the nuclear option, which is we are really trying to destroy Chinese trade flows coming out of the Middle East.
That's not going to happen, I don't think.
This is all about leverage getting in the short term.
So, how long do you anticipate this whole situation lasting, at least with the Strait of Hormuz?
Do you see it getting up and running and back to normal anytime soon?
No, no.
I think the damage has already been done, but it's not just damage to them.
It's not just damage to the Middle East.
It's damage to the whole global economy, including the United States.
I know there are people saying that, hey, there are all these tankers now coming to North America, coming to get access to our stuff.
It's very important to remember that this is a math problem.
And we simply, we have the stuff we need under our feet to supply a lot of things to the world, but we haven't developed them.
And that's going to take time and money.
So we're still going to be affected.
This is why we're still affected by the global price of oil.
Even though we have all the stuff we need, we don't get it all and we don't sell it all.
So this surge in demand is going to, in the short term, prove to be problematic in terms of our ability to meet that surging demand.
Now, The rest of the world, first of all, the Chinese are still getting access, or they were until 24 hours ago.
They're still getting access to Middle East energy flows, notably out of China.
I'm sorry, out of Iran.
They also have the ability to surge transportation from the Middle East via their land routes going from the Middle East to China.
They also have started in China many months ago to diversify, pulling more energy flows from Russia nearby.
They've also, by the way, pioneered in China.
The alternative energy revolution.
I'm not just talking about solar, which is fickle.
I'm talking about nuclear power.
I'm talking about geothermal.
I'm talking about hydropower.
And they're also leading the world now with the electric vehicle revolution.
What this means is actually they are poised in China to survive this flap.
And they're actually poised to pivot into a new energy dynamic where they are providing a lot of new technologies.
The Financial Times was talking about that this morning.
A lot of new high end technologies for alternative energy to the rest of the world while we're still dealing with the petrodollar and oil and natural gas.
Never going to fully replace oil and natural gas, but the Chinese are demonstrating that this is not going to be the thing that destroys their economy, that destroys their regime, however badly we may want it to happen.
And I'm certainly no fan of the regime in China, but they're going to be able to survive and thrive in this dynamic because they've diversified themselves for the last 10 to 15 years in ways.
We were not anticipating.
Plus, they have a strategic petroleum reserve of their own that today they started tapping into, and they've got at least 60 days, I think probably more, of reserves in that way.
So they're not going to start feeling this yet.
And I think the president will continue this blockade, like I said, at least until May 14th when he's supposed to fly to Beijing and meet with China.
And then at that point, I'm sure the blockade will ease up, especially because this is not going to fundamentally change the calculus of the Iranian regime, whose only mission is to survive.
They don't care if their economy collapses.
They only care that they're still in power.
And I think they will still be in power when all is said and done.
Yeah, because we've heard a number of people talking, though, about regime change.
Do you foresee that happening?
And, you know, because I know, like, even as a Pentagon correspondent, like, for me, it's still unclear about what our objectives are over there.
I know it was, well, they can't get a nuclear weapon.
And then it's like, oh, there can't be any enrichment.
And then they can't have any Navy ships.
And then they can't have any aircrafts.
And then, like, I'm kind of like, kind of confused as to, you know, what are the objectives?
Where does this end?
And then there's the other issue, right?
It's the elephant in the room.
A lot of people don't want to talk about it.
And that is like the fact that we're in this with Israel that has its own objectives, its own agenda.
They don't always share that with the United States, as we saw when they were striking gas fields in Iran without notifying President Trump.
And then Iran struck Qatar and it's just turned into a big mess.
Now we actually, I want to get your take on this.
Netanyahu put out a tweet the other day saying Israel, under my leadership, will continue to fight Iran's terror regime and its.
Proxies, um, unlike what is it, Erdogan Erdogan?
I always say Erdogan, who accommodates them and massacred his own Turkish citizens.
Um, the and then we'll put up another tweet here because the Turkish uh government responded to that post saying Netanyahu has been described as the Hitler of our time due to the crimes he has committed, is a well known figure with a clear track record.
An arrest warrant has been issued against Netanyahu by the international.
Criminal court on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
So it's like, you know, on one side, Brandon, you have Netanyahu saying they're bad.
Then they're saying Netanyahu's bad.
What is the real story here?
Well, I think it's important to understand Israel is a sovereign country, it has its own interests.
Sometimes they align with ours, sometimes they don't.
I think the mistake Americans make is that we just assume that Israel's always going to comport with our interests.
And Israel doesn't have to because they're a sovereign, independent country.
So, from the Israeli, particularly Netanyahu's perspective, it makes sense for them to not want to deal with Iran.
I wouldn't want to live with the Iranian regime if I lived in Israel.
I wouldn't want to have to do that.
So, it makes perfect sense that the Israelis are being intransigent on this.
What doesn't make so much sense is why the Trump administration is always deferring to the Israelis.
Yes, they're our partner in this war, but their interests are not always going to align with our interests.
Unfortunately, The president has made a decision to defer to the Israelis.
And that's why we keep seeing, you know, anytime there's an off ramp, the Israelis' position is being deferred to, whereas we, as the senior partner on paper, should be having our position deferred to.
When it comes to Turkey, it is very clear that if you are sitting in Tel Aviv, you do not want to have any organized resistance to your security perimeter.
So whether it's the Islamic Republic of Iran or the Islamists of Turkey, You are not interested in seeing those countries be strong.
So that's why right now they are so intransigent on continuing the war against Iran and why they're now starting to pick a fight on some level with Erdogan's Turkey, which is a NATO member.
And this is, you know, there's a longer story there.
But ultimately, I think it's important to understand that Turkey and Israel are partnered on key strategic endeavors in the Middle East.
Turkey, I'm sorry, Israel deferred to Turkey in Syria, which of course, Turkey promoted Jelani.
Who's the former Al Qaeda ISIS guy, who's now the president, so called, of Syria?
The Israelis worked with Turkey to help get these new energy flows out of northern Iraq, the Kurdish section, into Turkey, which was then sold to the Israelis.
So the Israelis cooperate with the Turks on multiple fronts.
I think a lot of this is bluster.
I think a lot of this, coming from Turkey in particular, is Erdogan's trying to save face with the Islamists in his midst.
I think otherwise he does business with the Israelis.
So I think we have to kind of navigate that and understand that not everything is as it seems.
But fundamentally, the Israeli interest is the Israeli interest.
It's not the Turkish interest.
It's not the Iranian interest.
It's not the Arab interest.
It's not the American interest.
We all have different, divergent interests.
And it would be wonderful if we could recognize in Washington that just because we're partnered with Israel doesn't mean we have to go along with them always.
And by the way, it doesn't mean that it's always good for Israel that we defer to them always.
There need to be some healthy limits in our relationship.
That doesn't mean we hate Israel.
It just means we need to understand that in a partnership, there are differences and that's okay.
And so that's my view.
And I just wish that we could de escalate now because I think there's a lot of damage being done to Israel as well as the United States with this war.
Yeah, for sure.
Real quick, before we let you go, I wanted to show you this tweet Bernie Sanders put out today.
He said, This week I will be forcing a vote to block nearly 500 million in bombs and bulldozers to Israel.
Enough is enough.
U.S. taxpayers must not keep funding the Netanyahu government's mass killing and displacement of civilians in Gaza, Iran, and Lebanon.
I've been hearing the talking point that Israel's committing genocide over and over.
I'm relatively new to the foreign policy.
Policy, Pentagon space, like, is that really occurring?
Like, are there journalists out there documenting said genocide, or is this sort of part of the information war?
No, there's definitely arguments that what the Israelis have done is genocide.
Of course, the alternative is that there's terrorists attacking Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah.
So, you know, they both are accusing each other of genocide.
I think what the The logical argument here is the one that Joe Kent made, which is to say we need to restrain the weapon sales we're selling to Israel to defensive systems only, which is really the systems they need.
Pope Polling and Holy Wars00:17:04
And the rest of this is not our problem.
And I don't think that makes one anti Israel or pro Hamas or whatever.
I think it's a rational discussion.
You say, okay, both sides are accusing each other of genocide.
America doesn't want to be in the middle of this mosh pit.
We are partnered with Israel.
We should continue to sell them defensive systems, but we do not need to escalate into.
Blind faith, blind trust, blind open acceptance of everything Israel does.
That's not an American position.
The American position is we will do what's in our interests as well.
Sometimes it's in our interest to support them, other times it's not.
Unfortunately, in this case, you've got two sides, Islamists and Zionists, where they're both accusing each other.
You're not going to get to the bottom of this ever.
It's best just to not be in the middle of it.
Exactly.
We're a Christian nation anyway.
Why are we involved in that?
That's right.
And it's unfortunate because we had four years under President.
First term with no new wars.
And it just seemed like things were going so great.
I thought that's what we were going to have this second time around.
So hopefully we can get back to that.
But thank you so much.
God willing.
Yes, God willing.
Thank you, Brandon.
I'll see you.
All right.
Make sure you guys go to Emerald.tv and check out his articles over there.
He did a really great piece on the missing scientists.
But we're going to take a quick break.
And when we come back, Kara Castronova joins us to go over the FBI, the J6 pipe bomber, and a lot more.
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Kara, thanks for joining us.
Oh, looks like we don't have audio there for Kara.
Sorry about that, Heather.
Yes, how are you today?
That was interesting.
I was listening in on your interview with Brendan, really interesting stuff happening there.
But also, a lot of talk still about President Trump and the Pope's feud.
Hopefully, there They can come together and see eye to eye on some things, both of them really important figures.
Obviously, the Pope being the first American Pope in history, and President Trump, the President of the United States.
I heard that Pope Leo was actually supposed to come for the 250th anniversary, but now that's not happening because of a lot of what's going on right now.
And the New York Times wrote a series of interesting articles.
This one in particular in Leo, Trump faces a different kind of papal opponent.
That's been used to discredit this pope is calling him a quote unquote woke pope in a similar fashion that they did to the pope prior, Pope Francis, who was sort of a woke pope, but I respect him because he was the pope.
A lot of the climate change talk and all these things that really kind of get under the skin of conservatives.
This pope has a much higher polling, you could say, than Pope Francis and has a sort of surprise, I think, the administration on how many people support him, and that would include conservative Christians, are supporting this pope, even though a lot of people are calling him a quote unquote woke pope.
And there was another article in the New York Times as well that I read.
And I never read the New York Times to be clear, but these are two decent enough articles where they said that they went out and they spoke to some Christians and some Catholic conservatives in the middle of the country.
And interestingly, most of them are getting the popes back in this one, saying that they think that President Trump kind of is stepping out of line when it comes to his insults of this pope and that they don't approve of it.
And that's According to the New York Times, and again, take that with a grain of salt, worrisome with the midterms coming up to a lot of Republicans that are trying to get re elected because a lot of them live in swing states.
And allegedly, they're saying that white Catholic Christians are one of the biggest groups of swing voters in swing states.
That Catholic, white Catholics are swing voters.
And it's a really important group when it comes to certain states like Arizona and certain states where they have blocks of Catholic Christians that are white.
That are generally swing voters.
So it has a lot of people seriously worried right now with what's happening with President Trump and this Pope, which is really some interesting stuff going on.
Really, we try to separate religion and state.
And you could say that President Trump's remarks were offensive to some.
And you could also say that the Pope is also dipping his feet into politics as well.
But some would also argue that when it comes to killing and war and abortion, even, then obviously the Pope is very against abortion.
But some people might argue that that's political.
That's also religious because it is obviously one of the main tenets of Christianity and the Catholic religion, thou shalt not kill, that a baby is born or conceived and it's a live child when it's conceived up until natural death.
So that's always been a belief of the obviously Christian and Catholic churches.
It's not political, it's a religious belief.
So you could go back and forth on who is kind of stepping out of their lane.
Is it the Pope?
Is it President Trump?
But a lot of people, according to the New York Times, are concerned.
This is people they spoke to, I guess, in the Midwest that this could really hurt midterms.
You know, there's a lot going on that I feel like in the religious sort of sphere of influence seems to be a lot of battles between, you know, the Catholics, you have like the pro Israel Zionists, you have the Islamists.
I mean, there's like all these different factions that appear to be fighting as we're going into these midterms.
I know that even just recently there was some, the scandal sort of on social media over whether or not President Trump knew that there was this.
Photo of him depicted as Jesus.
He claims he thought it was a picture of him as a doctor healing people.
But even that sort of ruffled some feathers within, you know, President Trump's own base.
I think Riley Gaines in particular had put out something like, why would he post this?
And then he sort of fired back at Riley.
And so you are seeing a lot of these fractures within the Republican Party.
And it feels like it primarily stems from religious theological differences.
Yeah, it does.
And it's interesting because the conservative party and the Republican party, and also the Democrats, to be fair, have courted voters based a lot of times on what are religious beliefs, like the abortion argument, the transgender argument, God made man, God made women.
So there is obviously an intersection when it comes to politics and religion.
It's really unrealistic to say that you can't talk about one and not the other and that they're intertwined.
So a lot of people are saying, oh, the Pope needs to stay out of his lane, or President Trump shouldn't be opining on the Pope.
And I think both of them kind of are entitled.
I wouldn't say entitled, but can do so because there is an intersection.
Because conservatives and Democrats, as well, both political parties do use religion to sway voters or anti religion, you could say.
Like a lot of Democrats don't believe it, or at least some very progressive types are very atheist and they believe that, you know, transgender is something that is acceptable because there's no such thing as a man and a woman.
And a lot of these people that I've spoken to when I've interviewed them are not religious, they don't have a religion, actually.
So, you know, I think it's interesting times that we're living in right now, to say the least.
And it's just interesting conversations that we're having.
I think that it could be a good thing.
Maybe it is God's plan in a way because nobody has talked more about religion than they are now.
I don't remember this from the beginning of the first Trump administration, 2016, 2015, when he was running, that I really started paying attention to these things.
When I really started paying attention was around 2015.
And again, I don't remember anybody talking about politics, let alone religion.
And I'm looking into what is The main tenants of the Catholic religion, the evangelicals, Zionism, the Jewish religion, the Muslim religion.
What are the differences between the different Muslim groups and the different Christian groups?
All of this is now relevant, which is incredible because mainly because of this war in Iran and a lot of the religious aspects of it.
So maybe it's bringing people back to Jesus.
I have family members that are reading the Bible, I have family members that are trying to figure out what Jesus' message was just because of everything going on politically right now.
So this could be a good thing.
I'd like to look at it like it is, but it's definitely a relevant conversation, I think, to talk about the Pope.
And for all the comments against this Pope saying that he's a woke Pope, I don't think he's a woke Pope.
I'm going to get the Pope's back and say he's not a woke Pope.
He's just sticking by the core.
Catholic tenets, which are no wars, don't kill anyone under any circumstances unless it's a just war.
And, you know, this has been discussed what is a just war?
It's pure self defense.
You know, and I also have President Trump's back because, in the sense that, you know, President Trump has free speech.
If he wants to say, you know, something about the Pope and he says that the Pope is bad on crime and he prefers the Pope's brother and the Pope isn't a good Pope, he has a right to say that as well.
So, you know, again, I just think it's provoking, interesting conversation.
And I do appreciate that, Heather, because it is.
Getting a lot of people to look into religion.
The Catholic Church has, from what I understand, seen tremendous growth in the past few months.
I heard that when I was at NASA this weekend that so many people are interested now in the Catholic religion, which is great.
And Christianity in general, where the priest was saying to the congregation that the interest in the church just in the past month is incredible in the Catholic Church.
So it's amazing.
It has me going online doing research.
I didn't know that Brazil was the most Catholic nation in the world.
Here's the other thing, too.
To your point, this is being talked about more than any other time.
And even myself, who I've always considered myself a Christian, I'm having to take a much deeper, more critical look at all these different factions.
I honestly didn't even know what Zionism was until the last year or so.
I'd heard about it, but not really the core of where did it come from?
How is it?
Created.
Same with like the different groups of Jewish people, right?
You have like the Orthodox Jews, you have ethnic Jews, you have religious Jews, you have, you know, like every single religion sort of has these different factions that because of all of this sort of turmoil,
like in the sort of infighting on the theological grounds, it's causing me to have to like up my level of knowledge and really dig in, which is, you know, In the end, going to be a good thing, right?
Because the more you learn, like the Bible and scripture says that wise people increase their learning.
And so the more we all learn together as a nation, the wiser we'll become.
So hopefully, in the end, it'll lead to good change.
But I mean, it's tough when you have people that are essentially godless down in Washington manipulating the religious groups, trying to cause conflict, trying to cause.
Division and it reminds me of something a friend of mine had posted years and years and years ago.
He was actually, I believe, Muslim, and but he posted something about how, like, the three Abrahamic religions, like Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, are all sort of like from the same religious tree.
And it got me thinking like a good analogy for that is like, imagine you have three different people that all witnessed a car accident.
They're all going to have an original point of view, but there's only one truth, right?
And I feel like Christianity is that like North Star truth, but there's bits of truth in like the other Abrahamic religions, but there's only one God, right?
So, how do we bridge through?
And I'll just get your take on this.
How do we bridge through, maybe from the Catholic perspective, these sort of, Information wars on theology to get to a place where we're all coming together, you know, under sort of one view.
Is that even possible?
I think it's possible.
I do.
And it's been possible for a long time.
That's why we have freedom of religion here in the United States when people could be free to worship who they want and without fear of persecution.
And people are looking like that might be in jeopardy.
You know, if there comes any time there's a rogue administration, I was fearful when Biden was president.
When Catholic, and I was fearful during the COVID lockdowns when, you know, more than ever, I felt like religion was being attacked.
And we're living in fearful times now, I think, on a global scale.
I wouldn't say that President Trump is attacking religions.
I mean, he has his own beef, obviously, with this Pope, but he's not, I don't think he's trying to prohibit Christianity in any way.
But I think on a larger scale, globally, you know, other leaders, and, you know, I continue to research as you do, Heather, I just think Christianity is under attack on a global level, which is very scary.
And it's something that I'm really starting to pay attention to.
There are persecuted Christians all over the world right now.
There are Christians that are being killed right now in Lebanon.
The first Christians, literally Jesus Christ's first followers, who were Jewish, by the way, then chose to believe in Jesus Christ.
So there's where the branch happens.
Then they become Christians.
They started as Jews, now they're Christians.
The original Christians right now are being killed in Lebanon and across the Middle East, and nobody's talking about it, which is just scary because I'm just fearful for what this means for Christianity worldwide.
And I think that, again, people are opening their eyes.
A lot of people weren't aware that there was Christian persecution in Nigeria, that there wasn't Christian persecution in different parts of Africa and in the Middle East and all parts of the world from various groups.
So, you know.
Again, things I wasn't aware of that I'm being made aware of now is that we have this war going on that a lot of people say have tinges of a holy war.
There's a holy war, at least not maybe from the United States apart, but between Israel and Iran, both have elements of this being a holy war.
Both of them are religious nations.
One is a Jewish nation, the other one is a Shia Muslim, which I didn't even know was different.
There's the Sunni Muslims and there's the Shia Muslims.
Totally, totally different.
And they don't like each other either.
So there's so many religious connotations and there's so many religious elements of this war right now that.
I think most people are just seeing it as black and white, especially from a U.S. perspective, which is a little bit more black and white, I think, than a perspective coming from these Middle Eastern countries.
It's more of a religious war, and it always has been.
And that's why that area of the world has always been in turmoil, just because of the religious wars.
And a lot of the time, it has nothing to do with Christianity, which is the sad part of it all, because obviously, Jerusalem and Israel are Christian places of worship that I would love to visit.
But it's not safe.
It's not safe to go to that part of the world right now and visit where Jesus was crucified, visit where Jesus was born, and all of these things just because the Middle East is so war torn right now.
So it really is unfortunate, I would say, for Christians.
And from a Catholic perspective, going back to your original question, the Catholic Church has always been very tolerant of other religions.
There is a church, I could say, from Long Island that I used to go to that would actually have a group called the Table of Abraham, which was one where it would bring Christian.
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Muslim and Jewish leaders from different denominations together to find common ground.
I think the common ground generally is the Ten Commandments thou shalt not kill.
That's common sense.
Most of the all three religions, Abraham is one of the founding fathers.
So is Moses.
Moses, you know, when the Ten Commandments came down, said thou shalt not.
Oh, it looks like we lost Kara, but I mean, she was given some great information there.
I think it's just important to remember at the end of the day, no matter what your religion, like she said, the Ten Commandments really are a good sort of starting point in order to act like Christ, you know?
And remember the golden rule treat other people the way that you want to be treated.
We're going to take a quick break here, but when we come back, we're going to get into our final segment.
And that is there's a lot going on at FEMA.
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Switching gears to our final segment, I want to talk about another hit piece CNN has written about my good friend Greg Phillips.
If we can go ahead and put this tweet up on the screen, we have Andrew Kaczynski of CNN.
This tweet says New, I called Donald Trump to ask him about a top FEMA official who said he teleported to Waffle House.
After I explained it, Trump asked, What does teleport mean?
And was he kidding?
Adding, I just, it just sounds a little strange.
But I know nothing about teleporting or him.
Now, what Andrew there of CNN is not telling you is that Greg Phillips, again, a friend of mine who I've known for years and worked with in a number of different capacities, battled cancer.
In fact, he was given months to live and it had spread all throughout his body.
I remember being in prayer groups with people praying over him as he was in excruciating pain, could barely walk.
And despite doctors telling Greg that he only had a Few months to live, he said, My God decides when my time is up.
And God bless him.
Our prayers worked, God heard and healed Greg through an unconventional protocol.
So, Greg Phillips, many of you may know him from his work with Truth of Vote.
He did a lot of the geofencing, geospatial research that exposed the ballot mules that went to all the drop boxes during COVID.
He's just done a number of phenomenal investigations.
He's incredibly smart.
And now he's been appointed to oversee a high level position at FEMA.
But back to his cancer diagnosis Greg was literally told he had months to live, beat his cancer through none other than ivermectin, right?
And I wanna put on screen Andrew, the guy who wrote the hit piece on him, is basically quoting some things that Greg said while he was doing this high dose ivermectin protocol.
But I want you to look at his bio there on X.
It says CNN senior politics reporter, co founder of Team Beans Fund funding childhood cancer research in memory of my daughter.
And so, what really struck me is that with that, you have this guy writing a hit piece on Greg Phillips who beat his cancer, right?
And instead of writing the story about the fact that this man beat his cancer, right?
That you apparently lost your daughter to cancer, you're writing a hit piece about things he said while he was on a high dose protocol that caused him to faint and have all kinds of other symptoms.
Right.
So you're attacking somebody for beating cancer, essentially.
And it just blows my mind that this man could lose his own daughter to cancer and then attack a cancer survivor.
You would think he would want to save other young kids and like reach out to Greg and be like, man, what is your protocol?
How can I share this with the world?
Like, what did you do to go from being unable to walk and told you have months to live to being completely cancer free and appointed to run FEMA?
That is the story.
That is the real story, but not when you work at CNN.
Nope.
It's taking people down.
I want to play another video from FEMA's having some previous issues that CNN never decided to talk about right there.
Speaker Mike Johnson backs the expulsion of Rep Sheila Shorfalis McCormick after her indictment for stealing $5 million in FEMA disaster funds.
We also have another FEMA story CNN never covered.
They want to attack Greg for beating cancer.
But they never covered this either.
We have a soundbite of what took place under the Biden administration at FEMA.
So let's take a listen.
Well, it's an unjust indictment, and it seems like these intimidation tactics have been pervasive.
There was another clip here.
I don't know if we have it.
If we do, we can go ahead.
We do not have that one.
So basically, what it was is it was a clip where, under the Biden administration, there was a worker that came that was essentially fired over skipping homes during hurricane.
When they were aiding the hurricane damaged neighborhoods, they were skipping homes with Trump signs.
This actually happened.
Do you think CNN reported on it?
No, they didn't.
Do you think CNN reports on Rep Sheila McCormick there stealing money from FEMA?
All these stories seem to evade Andrew Kaczynski of CNN, but he wants to attack somebody like Brent, who's done the Lord's work.
When I tell you I can't speak, More highly of someone than Greg Phillips.
He's just truly a remarkable person doing the Lord's work.
And, you know, there's this one really great video.
If you go to open.ink, this is a website that Greg Phillips started where a lot of the work that he's done is archived.
So if you go to open.ink, you can see the website.
And he's done everything from exposing Chinese election interference, he did an investigation into the January 6th insurrection that we all know.
We're not getting the full story on, but I highly recommend you go check out what Greg Phillips has done.
And there's just so much more.
So go to open.ink.
But I want to end today's show just briefly showing you a video that Greg Phillips did on President Donald Trump's uncle.
It was interesting because he actually did a whole deep dive research project.
And it's just, it's quite the video.
So take a listen to this.
We'll end the show with this video on John G. Trump made by none other than Greg Phillips.
And we'll see you all tomorrow.
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