The Mike Lindell Show-TRUMP FIGHTS ELECTION FRAUD, MAJOR SCOTUS WINS, NBA PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIAN PLAYERS
President Trump signs an executive order verifying voter eligibility and barcoding mail-in ballots to combat fraud, citing Georgia's inflated registration rates and dismissed evidence of cash-for-ballots schemes. The episode highlights a Supreme Court victory striking down Colorado's conversion therapy ban, which Justice Jackson dissented against, framing the ruling as a defense against radical indoctrination rather than protecting LGBTQ youth. Hosts connect this legal win to broader cultural persecution, including an NBA player fired for opposing Pride Month, concluding that these events represent a spiritual battle where faith in Jesus supersedes political correctness under Trump's leadership. [Automatically generated summary]
This was a meeting set up very proudly by us, having to do with voter integrity and mail in ballots and stopping the massive cheating that's gone on.
And so we're going to be signing an executive order.
I believe it's foolproof.
And maybe it'll be tested, maybe it won't.
I think it's very obvious what's said.
And I'll ask Will Scharf to start off, attorney, a great talent, a very brilliant young man.
And if you could discuss it, and then I'm going to ask Howard Luddick to say a few words, and then I'm going to sign it, and we'll take a couple of questions.
Okay?
Thank you.
Mr. President, as you said, you have in front of you an executive order that deals with a number of issues relating to election integrity.
As you've consistently identified, two of the biggest problems we have with election integrity in this country, Are one, inaccurate voter rolls that allow ineligible people to vote in various federal and state elections all over the country.
And secondarily, you've consistently identified that vote by mail in this country has become rife with fraud.
People returning ballots who aren't eligible to return ballots, ballots being sent to people who aren't confirmed to be eligible voters.
So, what this executive order is going to do is one, we're going to take federal data, we're going to ensure that each state's election officials are provided with a comprehensive view.
Of who the eligible voters in their jurisdiction actually are, allowing them to properly verify that everybody voting in their elections is legally able to vote.
And then it orders the Postmaster General and the U.S. Postal Service to take bold new measures to verify that ballots both being sent to people are being sent to people who are eligible to vote, and then that ballots being returned are being properly returned by eligible voters only.
And we believe that combined the measures in this executive order will help secure elections in the future and ensure.
That the many abuses of our election system in the past aren't repeated in future elections.
Right?
Alec?
So, the fundamentals of our democracy are built on voter integrity, right?
We all need it.
You've said it time and time again.
It's a total agreement amongst everybody.
So, here's the idea the states, right, run these elections.
They will, if they want to use the U.S. mail, U.S. Postal Service, they're going to get a code, a barcode from the U.S. Postal Service, and they're going to put that on the envelope.
And we will have one envelope per vote.
None of this time where we have no idea, there's no observers to mail, there's no envelopes, there's no certainty.
That's all going to go away, and what the president is doing today is he's going to make sure that mail in ballots are safe, secure, and accurate, and will have a clear distinction.
If you voted by mail, you will have it on the envelope.
Obviously, not on the ballot, but on the envelope.
So we will know a million mail in ballots, there'll be a million envelopes, and you'll be able to know exactly correctly.
That citizens vote.
Happy Wednesday, everybody.
What you heard just then is President Trump's new executive order to combat election integrity.
And joining us now to break this executive order down and what we can expect from it going forward is Jason Frazier of Georgia.
Good afternoon, Heather.
Yes.
So I think that is a great.
Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Break it down for us because you've been somebody who's done, you know, everyone that watches this show is no stranger to them, but you've done incredible work down in Georgia.
You've seen firsthand some of the problems with our elections.
At the very grassroots level, is this executive order from President Trump going to be able to combat some of those issues, Jason?
Yeah, I believe this is going to go a long way in helping us clean up our elections here in Georgia and across the country.
One of the first things that jumped out at me is that barcode that President Trump was just talking about.
So being able to identify who is eligible to receive a mail in ballot and tracking that ballot all the way through.
To make sure that it's not being sent to somebody that shouldn't receive it.
Or if somebody's registered four times, hopefully the federal database, he didn't mention it in there, but it's in the executive order that the federal government will be sending the states a list of who is eligible to vote in that federal election from the state level.
So instead of Brad Raffensberger having a 115% registration rate in Fulton County, hopefully the federal database won't show that an extra 15% people.
Can vote in Fulton County because they'll know very quickly that whenever they compare it to, say, a Florida voter roll where a lot of Georgians move to, that they're registered in Florida, they're paying taxes in Florida, they should not be on the Georgia voter roll.
Thus, they would not be eligible to vote in both states.
So, I think that's where this is going as well as citizenship.
If you're not a U.S. citizen, the federal government would know very quickly that you should not be eligible to vote.
Or if you're under 18, that was another thing that it flagged.
So, only people that are eligible that are of voting age.
Population that are US citizens only get to vote one time in America.
I think all of those are big, big steps in the right direction.
Yeah.
So, is the sort of like, I guess, defense that President Trump has for this executive order the fact that it's going through the United States Postal Service?
Because I know a lot of people would be like, you know, the first thing that they say is, oh, well, the states run the elections.
We don't want the federal government running elections.
But this executive order, Is not that correct?
It's him modifying sort of the federal agencies that are within his jurisdiction while still allowing the states to run the elections.
That's right.
The states will continue running their elections as is, but the federal government will just be helping them to identify on their voter rolls who is an eligible citizen.
I mean, it's not always easy to know if you live in Georgia that, or that, say, you're the Secretary of State in Georgia.
Well, somebody moved to Florida or moved to Alabama or somewhere else.
If they didn't forward their mail, if they just up and left and registered in Alabama, we don't catch all of those.
So, a federal database where you're paying taxes, I mean, the federal government knows where we are at all times of day, whether we like it or not, because of our taxes and other things, they would quickly know that you're registered in multiple states whenever they run that analysis.
So, I think, yes, it absolutely leaves it in the hands of the states, but also has a component to help the states.
To run their elections better, which is really what a state should want.
They should want to run the elections clean.
This simply helps with that.
Well, we know why some of them don't, Jason, right?
Because in a free and fair election, many of them would not be there.
Fully agree.
I mean, Brad Raffensberger does not want to give up the Georgia voter rolls, and there's only one reason for that.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, your take on what kind of pushback do you think this executive order is going to see?
Where are there any weak points in it that maybe they could target?
I mean, I personally could foresee like a Mark Elias coming out saying this is voter suppression somehow.
I mean, how are they going to fight this executive order?
You know, it's not always easy to know what Mark Elias will do, but I would be happy to bet anybody that there will be a lawsuit on this as well as any other election integrity bill.
They're all voter suppression.
I'm not sure how it suppresses somebody's right to vote more than once is a bad thing, but it doesn't stop anybody from voting one time.
It just stops them from voting twice.
Or if you're not a legal citizen, it would stop you from voting at all.
And we've heard for years that that's a conspiracy theory.
Non citizens don't vote.
However, in the last several Georgia State Election Board hearings, there have been cases where non citizens were registered to vote and many of them were voting.
And some of them would come to the hearings and say, Hey, I didn't even know I was registered to vote.
I just got a driver's license and here's the form.
I didn't even fill it out, but somehow they got registered to vote.
So, you know, if you want to have clean elections and be a good Secretary of State and be a good state, then this is what you should want.
So, fighting back.
And the Elias lawsuits.
I mean, we've seen the surveys.
80 some percent of Americans want this.
They want clean elections.
They just want the right person.
Whoever won, let them win.
But playing games with our elections has got to stop.
I mean, if we're not campaigning hard enough, if we don't have good candidates, that's one thing.
But when you're having people vote in multiple states, when you're having non citizens vote, or again, in Fulton County, where you've got.
115% registration rate, that's a problem.
And that opens up opportunities for fraud.
And some states that have automatic ballots that are mailed out.
Well, if you're registered at 115% registration rate, then you've got thousands and thousands of ballots being mailed out to people that no longer live in the state or have passed away or registered more than once.
And this would simply help clean up some of that.
So it would save the states money and it would help clean up the process and instill confidence in our elections again.
So I think it's a great executive order.
Oh, wow.
Coming from you, I mean, that says a lot.
So, what is that going to look like in practice at the grassroots level?
You know, I know you're the Fulton County Board of Elections nominee, but like you have a deep awareness of how the local elections are conducted at the state level.
What does this executive order for them look like putting this into practice?
Well, I mean, one of the lines in there, and I think it was in section two.
States that the Attorney General shall prioritize the investigation and, as appropriate, the prosecution of state and local officials or any others involved in the administration of federal elections who issue federal ballots to individuals not eligible to vote in federal elections.
So I think that would instill some fear in some of these people that if they're not cleaning up the voter rolls, if they're adding people more than once, if they're leaving people on that move out of state, Then they could be prosecuted for running a bad election.
And that's something that I've been saying needs to happen for a long time, as I have found people registered more than once that were issued ballots and turned in more than one ballot in the same election.
And sometimes it's a matter of the person turned in a mail in ballot on one ID.
They couldn't find in the system that they voted, so they showed up to vote to make sure that their vote had counted, and they show up at the polls and vote with the other ID.
The individual would have no idea they voted twice.
But the problem is the Secretary of State and the counties are failing because they are registering people more than once.
In allowing for this.
And it happens also when people are registered in more than one state.
The individual, or if a mail in ballot gets lost in the mail as things do and somebody else fills it out, then that individual will be given credit for voting more than once, whether they did or whether they didn't.
So just cleaning up the system and putting a fear of prosecution in the ones running our elections that if they're not doing the job properly, I mean, mistakes happen, but whenever you're talking hundreds of thousands of people registered more than once, that kind of says we've got a problem.
Yeah.
So let me give you an example and tell me if this would fall under that purview of prosecution.
Back during the Senate hearings after the 2020 election in Georgia, there were these, you know, those committee hearings where they had people, election workers, voters, all kinds of people testifying.
Front of them.
Rudy Giuliani was there at the time representing, he was a lawyer for President Trump.
There was a young girl that came up.
I believe her name was Grace Lemon.
She was like a Georgia Tech student, I believe.
And she was telling the entire committee there that day that when she went in to vote on election day, she was told that somebody had already cast a ballot in her name and that she had to vote provisionally.
So she opened up a case with, like, she filed a complaint, opened up a case with the Secretary of State's office.
She was assigned some sort of number.
There was like an email correspondence that, like, I don't know, every so often she'd get some sort of email.
And then all of a sudden, one day she gets an email, her case is closed.
No explanation, no answer as to who voted in her name, right?
No answer as to whether or not her provisional ballot actually counted.
Just nothing, just swept under the rug, right?
And this is an actual complaint that the Secretary of State was aware of.
So, in a situation like that, under this new executive order, Signed by President Trump, could that sort of negligence be prosecuted?
Well, I don't know the specifics on her case, but if, say, her vote, she had already quote unquote voted because somebody requested an absentee ballot and possibly had returned it, well, this executive order would allow, requires a barcode on that.
So there would be tracking through the whole process.
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And one would think that you would want to get to the bottom of it because if you're going to be held accountable, For a lot of election fraud.
I mean, a case here and there where there's clerical errors do happen, but I'm tired of hearing clerical error in Fulton County time and time and time and time again.
At some point, with enough clerical errors, it becomes just part of the process.
We clearly don't care.
When you go to the bank, they don't accidentally give you an extra $100 and it's clerical error.
Don't worry about it, just keep it.
I mean, Fulton County has got to stop with the clerical errors.
And run clean elections.
And just like her case, I used to be a poll worker several years ago before I got quite as involved in elections.
And you would hear on a regular basis people saying that the clerk would tell them they had already voted.
And these look like sincere people that.
Did not already vote.
So, we definitely have a problem with people getting credit for voting who did not vote.
And in what happens, I would like to get to the bottom of that.
These investigations are not prompt.
And just like the case you had mentioned, I think a lot of them get swept under the rug because they don't like the results.
Either it makes the county look bad or it shows a gap in the process or something, but they really need to get to the bottom of it.
So that way we can have clean elections again.
So, do you think this executive order will motivate people like Secretary Raffensberger to start cleaning the voter rolls?
I think it's going to force his hand.
I mean, if I were the Secretary of State and I saw a line in there saying that I would be investigated for allowing non eligible people to vote, that would make me want to take the non eligible people off.
I mean, in Georgia, we have a habit of never prosecuting election crimes.
But these are federal elections, so yeah, we need the federal government to be prosecuting these crimes.
Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious when you have election crimes and no prosecutions, the state of your government at that point.
I think it's fair to say that if they're not prosecuting election crimes, it's probably because they're the benefactor of those election crimes.
You got it, you got it.
So, so what is the current status of Georgia's voter rolls at this moment, right now?
Like, do we know how?
Dirty, they are, how many, you know, roughly ineligible records are currently on those rolls?
That's a good question.
I mean, the EAC, their numbers that came out, I don't know, it was probably three or four months ago now, showed that Fulton County had a 115% registration rate.
And what that means is for every 100 eligible people in Fulton County, there's 115 people on the Robota rolls.
And not all counties are that bad, but a lot of them are hovering around 100%.
And The real numbers are that only around 80 or so percent of the population want to be registered to vote just because they don't like to vote.
You know, they don't understand or they don't, it's not a priority in their life.
So at 115 percent, that's a big overshot.
So we've got way too many people on the rolls that should not be there.
And, you know, maybe I view this wrong, but I don't think it's voter suppression to just bring that number down closer to 100 percent.
So we've got a long way to go in Georgia.
But hopefully, this will help push that back down to where it ought to be.
Yeah, hopefully.
We'll have to have you back on and let us know sort of what the blowback is there in Raffensperger's center of the universe.
But let's go ahead and play another clip here.
Actually, we have a tweet I'm going to put on the screen.
This is detailing some election fraud James O'Keefe uncovered out there in California, the other side of the coast, right?
So these election issues are coastal.
To ghost.
But he uncovered a scheme of cash for ballots.
And now I know, you know, Jason, the same playbook was actually utilized in Georgia.
We'll get to that in a little bit.
But let's go ahead and play this soundbite from James O'Keefe on what he uncovered.
The petitioner, Brenda.
Brown hands cash money to the homeless person not only for signing the California ballot initiative but also as payment for them to register to vote.
Now, because you haven't registered, I need to register you so I can get paid too.
I'm paying you guys, I need to get paid.
That is Is a federal felony.
And it didn't just happen once.
It happened over and over and over again.
I mean, this is what they were telling us didn't exist in the elections, Jason.
But, you know, we have one camera that captures it a number of different times.
It makes the question, right?
How many times did it happen when the cameras weren't rolling?
How long has it been going on for?
And how many ballots and signatures are now compromised as a result of this organized operation?
And this was just in California.
And I want to put up a tweet on the screen.
Governor Newsom actually responded to James O'Keefe's breaking news saying, This alleged activity is a felony in California.
Anyone caught engaging in this activity should be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
That was from Brandon Richard, the deputy director for rapid response.
But, you know, this is not exclusive to California, is it, Jason?
You know, it sure looks like that happens everywhere.
And what really surprised me was the fact that they were just giving these people a dollar or two and some cigarettes, or I mean, really almost nothing for committing a felony.
And it just goes to show how many people are willing to break the law.
And one would think if there was fear of prosecution, they may not.
And that kind of gets down to the root cause nobody ever gets prosecuted for this sort of thing.
So they just feel fine about doing it in broad daylight.
They're not even going in a dark, Dark alleyway or in an office, it's right out there on the streets because they know they'll never be prosecuted.
So that really tells you what's going on here.
Yeah.
And I want to show people a clip here.
We're going to play some B roll on the screen.
This is a video taken in Gwinnett County, Georgia.
This is a gentleman walking up to a drop box, taking a photo of ballots that had been fanned out and then placing them in the drop boxes.
Now, there were several reports.
True the Vote had reported they had a whistleblower who was paid per ballot to illegally harvest and place ballots into the drop boxes during the 2020 election.
This footage specifically came from an open records request a concerned citizen had done.
He actually went on to file a complaint about this very video alleging illegal ballot harvesting.
He submitted that to the state election board, but at the time, it was a totally different state election board than we had.
Today, they said because they couldn't identify that man, it was essentially dismissed.
That's what he confirmed to me when I spoke to him this morning.
I asked him, you know, whatever happened with this.
He said they couldn't ID the guy, so it got dismissed.
But as you could see there on the screen, he took a picture, and the reports were that, you know, people were being paid per ballot.
So you had to get the photo proof at the Dropbox, however many you had in your hand there, each one had a monetary value, and then you would get paid.
This is exactly like a similar scheme that we're seeing James O'Keefe uncover in California.
And so it begs the question now are we going to see people prosecuted in Georgia?
I mean, has the statute of limitations, Jason, passed for those crimes of illegal ballot harvesting and trafficking in the 2020 election in Georgia?
Could those still be prosecuted today?
Well, I don't know what about the statute of limitations are, but.
They should at least look into it.
They should at least understand who did it.
And if they can't prosecute them, at least get to the bottom of it to make sure it doesn't happen again.
I mean, I'm pretty sure that guy didn't have 14 kids that lived at his house that were all over 18, and grandma and grandpa.
And he was just proud to be turning in all of their ballots.
I mean, nobody has, I don't know how many ballots he had, but and takes a selfie of it just to drop them off, unless they're doing something shady.
And it sure does fit the narrative that he was being paid for it.
And I strongly believe that if they wanted to figure out who that was, they could.
I mean, we all know that our cell phones are tracked everywhere we go, there are flock cameras all over the streets that read your driver's or your license plate.
So if they wanted to find out, Who that gentleman was, I guarantee they could figure it out.
Again, it's just a lack of will.
And our AG does not prosecute election crimes at all, for the most part.
I haven't seen any since he's been in office.
So you've got to start prosecuting.
And I think from the federal level, that's the place to do it.
And if people are enabling this, whether it's the county having a bloated voter roll or tens of thousands of people registered more than once.
At some point, it shows that they are liable and need to clean this up.
So, again, we've got problems, and this EO will definitely help.
And we, I mean, I just want clean elections.
I think that's what you want, and that's what the American people want.
So, we've just got to get this cleaned up, Heather.
Yeah, for sure.
And I think this EO is a good way to apply pressure on the local officials, right?
It's not necessarily federal afferents and how the elections run.
But it is applying pressure that if things are done, you know, nefariously or whatever, that there is sort of some accountability now in terms of getting justice for what's going on.
Because that video from Gwinnett County has been out for years now, right?
Making its rounds.
It was literally part of the state election board's complaints, right?
So it's public record now.
There was a whole thing.
You would have thought that in today's day and age, right?
If you can geofence.
January 6ers and the FBI under Biden can start targeting J6ers that were standing in that little circle, know where they live, how to find them and track them down within days and weeks of January 6th.
How are you not able to do the same thing with a man walking up to a Dropbox with a cellular device that is pinging his location with an independent IMEI number that is exclusive to him?
That phone is registered to him, presumably, that it should be an easy job to identify that man.
So the fact that it was Filed as a complaint with the state election board and then dismissed because we can't identify him.
But you can identify hundreds and thousands of J6ers in a matter of days.
They knew every one of them.
Exactly.
And they know every single ballot trafficker and harvester.
The problem was, we didn't have a state or federal government at the time willing to prosecute it.
So hopefully, you know, President Trump has made election integrity his top priority.
Clearly, this second time around.
So it's good to see.
Final question is Is there any update on that Fulton County election raid by the FBI?
Are we going to be seeing any arrests from that potentially?
What have you heard, Jason?
It sure would be nice.
I haven't heard any updates.
They had a hearing, what was it, last Friday in Fulton County.
And the judge did not give us any indication after that hearing on how quickly he would have an answer.
But hopefully we'll get an update in the next day or so.
I mean, time is pretty critical on this.
We need answers.
We need to know what happened so that way history does not continue to repeat itself.
Just like that guy with 14 ballots or however many ballots in his hand.
If you're not at least watching those kind of people to make sure they're not doing it again, what would stop them from doing it again?
If all these clerical errors that Fulton County likes to call them are not cleaned up so you don't make that same clerical error the next time and the next time, then you're essentially enabling the fraud.
And at some point, it's not a clerical error, it's a way of life and a way of process.
So we could stop this if we just wanted to.
And I think it's great that the federal government is finally getting involved, looking at things.
They're looking at the 2020 ballots and hopefully they'll find something and let the people know very quickly.
So, if nothing else, it puts the fear of God in these people that they will not do it again in this coming up election.
Amen.
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Amen.
Well said.
Well, thank you so much, Jason, for joining us today, as always.
Thank you, Heather.
Thank you.
And make sure you go give Jason a follow over there on social media, Jason Frazier USA.
He's on X.
But, you know, like he said, we want to put the fear of God in these people.
And as we are Four days away from celebrating the resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I think the fear of God is a good thing to be putting in the minds of these election criminals.
So we're going to be right back.
And when we come back, we're going live out to the Supreme Court of the United States where our very own Allison Steinberg joins us.
We'll be right back.
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Welcome back, everybody.
Happening now over at the Supreme Court of the United States.
Let's put this headline up here from the Associated Press.
They're saying the Supreme Court cast doubt on Trump's bid to limit birthright citizenship as he attends.
Arguments.
So the president has decided to attend the oral arguments today over at SCOTUS.
I believe the first time a president has done so.
And joining us now from outside the Supreme Court is our very own Allison Steinberg.
Hi, Heather.
Good to see you.
Good to see you.
I mean, that's quite the backdrop you have here.
I mean, it looks so good.
Blue skies and sunshine, too.
It's a rare, beautiful day here in the swamp.
Normally it's pouring rain or so hot you can barely.
Barely even stand.
It's day outside, but it is beautiful nonetheless.
And it was a very exciting morning here on the steps of the United States Supreme Court.
Obviously, we had President Trump here sitting in on these oral arguments regarding birthright citizenship.
He signed an executive order upon obtaining the Oval Office in the beginning of his second term.
And we know that he's long stood in opposition to birthright citizenship, saying that it's very dangerous for the future of our nation.
This is now being.
Discussed here at the United States Supreme Court, where there were lots of good cases made today, lots of people in attendance as well outside the Supreme Court while arguments were underway.
But, you know, we don't really know anything definitively at this point in time, though I did speak with Dr. John Eastman, who sat in on the arguments and said he was very pleased with how they went.
He seems very hopeful that the Supreme Court is going to side with the president on this issue.
By and large, obviously, that's still yet to be determined once they make it.
An official ruling, which we are hearing is expected to happen around June or July of this year.
So, again, nothing conclusive today, though it is definitely a good start in the right direction on a conversation that most certainly needs to be had.
I will say it was incredibly eye opening to see some of the opposition out in front of the Supreme Court today.
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People who allegedly think, you know, just because your parents are born here, even if they're illegals, that you then, as the child, have the right to be here as well.
It's sort of a warped view of the 14th Amendment, which was intended to protect slaves or children of slaves after the Civil War.
So that 14th Amendment we're finding has been sort of manipulated and evolved into something it was never intended to be.
And I think President Trump's ultimate goal is to restore that 14th Amendment to its actual intended use and to limit the amount of people that are allowed to call themselves citizens of the United States.
Yeah, because it's interesting because we just did our first segment sort of on his executive order on the election stuff and trying to crack down on illegals being added to voter rolls and things like that.
And I think.
What people, you know, something to consider with this case being heard today is that, you know, we hear the term anchor baby.
And so, for those of you watching, essentially what it means is that the people illegally enter the United States, they give birth to a child on American soil.
And then, where it's currently like, I guess, the status quo that's existed up until this landmark case, right, is that that baby would then be given U.S. citizenship.
And so, what you have in a lot of states where illegal immigration has sort of been going on for decades, I know Massachusetts, where I'm from, we've had illegal immigration long before it became a national talking point.
It was probably one of the first states to really like become that sort of like illegal immigration hemorrhaging into our country, you know, that along with Illinois and California.
And so, you have generations now of these anchor babies that are, you know, given US citizenship.
They grow up, they tend to vote in favor of allowing illegals to essentially come in.
And so it's changing over time the more you allow them in and sort of like it's changing America from within, like the actual fabric of our culture.
Yeah, it certainly is.
There's no question about that.
I mean, just look at how the country looks now compared to even 30 years ago.
I mean, it's drastically different.
And that is extremely alarming and very concerning.
Kudos to President Trump for being the first to address this critical issue that has been sort of swept under the rug or even exacerbated by previous presidents, just especially with Biden allowing 20 million plus illegal aliens into this country, many of whom are military aged men who are ready to fight and go to battle here.
So it is absolutely a concern, one that I think is being overlooked by the vast majority of people, largely due to their.
Trump derangement syndrome.
They can't seem to look past the fact that, yes, Trump is trying to implement this, but for the good of the nation.
I guess they think everyone just deserves a free ticket to come here into America.
I talked with one gentleman whose parents are illegal.
By definition, he's now here as a citizen because of the warping of the 14th Amendment, excuse me.
And he thinks that he's just entitled to that.
He thinks that this is just due him.
And then you talk to other people who have worked so hard to come into America the correct way, actually go through the immense work to become a legal citizen.
And many of those people are very upset by this, right?
They know what it takes.
They've gone through all the work themselves, and it's not an easy process, and it takes quite a while.
So I think those legal immigrants who have gone through the paperwork and everything the right way are also very much in support of President Trump's efforts to rein this in and get this issue under control.
Because if we don't.
Heather, I don't think we really have a country, and I think our country is really going to be unrecognizable in the very near future.
I think it already is so.
So I think it's something that we need to stay pressed on.
We'll see what happens.
Like I said, the Supreme Court is set to rule on this later this year, mid year, roughly June or July.
So I think it's a conversation we need to keep having until then to continue to raise awareness on it because I was met with quite a few deranged individuals here that wouldn't even have a conversation.
Like they're here.
In opposition to President Trump's executive order, but they can't even state why they're in opposition to it.
All they can do is get angry and scream in my face without having a conversation.
So it's really interesting group of people here.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, you should ask them their citizenship.
But I mean, I'm curious to know like, does this, does the current, and if you don't know, it's fine, but like, like, I'm just wondering like, what if somebody was coming over here on vacation and they're pregnant, right?
And they happen to go in labor in America.
Is their child automatically a U.S. citizen?
Just, you know, like, like if you're vacationing, or is it just like if you illegally enter the country?
And then on the flip side, you could be like, you know, as an American, if I'm traveling abroad and you give birth in another country, you don't expect that country, To then extend you citizenship, right?
Like, I wouldn't expect them to, but I guess there are some countries that actually do that, though.
It's called, like, there's, oh God, I saw this woman on X on social media the other day, and she actually had, like, a business where she would, like, charge a fee and help direct people to, like, find out where they could get, like, passports in different areas.
It was really bizarre, but I mean, just going off on a tangent here, but I guess, have you heard anything about whether or not this birthright citizenship that currently is in place?
Does that apply to people that are just traveling through and happen to give birth?
That's a really good question.
I don't know the answer to it.
I did want to pull up what Katanti Brown Jackson stated today.
If I can find it here, I'm scrambling to get this pulled up, but she said something on the, like, in kind of along those lines that I was going to share with you.
I don't have it, but let me see if I can pull it up here.
I think she was saying, you know, if someone was.
I don't know.
I don't have it here, unfortunately, but.
I mean,.
Like, it's actually crazy to think of people just coming through here and being able to get citizenship that way.
And it also incentivizes, right?
It incentivizes if you know, right, that this particular country will give you citizenship for your child if you have it on your soil.
This was kind of like that woman who I'm going to have to track down her account, but what she was doing on X was like helping connect people with opportunities to get additional citizenship in multiple different countries.
Like that to me is pretty crazy, just in general.
And so, like, if that's the case, it's going to incentivize people, especially from these third world countries, right?
Who wouldn't want to get, like, every parent naturally wants to give their child a better life.
So, if you know, if you can just get into America and you can buy, you know, a one way ticket into America, give birth over there, and your baby is now an American citizen, we're incentivizing people from, you know, all over the country to come here and have their kids.
And then those kids are going to be raised on the taxpayer dime.
It's going to create a price tag for the American taxpayer because now their parents are not working citizens of the country paying for their own children.
It's the taxpayer that is going to be providing all the welfare programs, the schooling, translators for the schooling if they don't speak the native language of English here.
I mean, like the cost associated with the American taxpayer is enough to want to end this birthright citizenship, let alone the degrading.
Of American core values when we don't have assimilation before we allow people to migrate here.
Yeah, and that's such a great point that I think is largely overlooked, obviously, by the vast majority of people in opposition to this.
Otherwise, you know, they might be in favor of it if they actually thought about how this massively burdens the taxpayer, right?
I mean, they don't even think about how this is such a, you know, a detriment to the nation and each one of us who are hardworking, taxpaying American citizens.
It's not fair to us, and we shouldn't have to take that on.
We already have enough of our own problems.
Currently, without having to factor in all these people who are here illegally that never should have been here in the first place.
So it is a massive burden to the taxpayer.
To get back to your original question, I mentioned Katanji Brown Jackson and her statement in today's oral arguments was If I steal a wallet in Japan, I am subject to Japanese laws.
So, in a sense, it's allegiance.
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Someone else goes on to comment in the comment section they say, Oh, yeah, and I got pulled over by the police once in Mexico.
So that means I'm a Mexican.
The justification for this is really wild.
It's really nonsensical.
And I think that, I mean, if what Dr. Eastman said is true in our interview earlier today, he does think that it's sounding promising.
And this is really groundbreaking.
It's the first time we've ever had any mass conversation like this or heard anything like this in the Supreme Court weighing in on this issue.
So maybe things are turning around here.
Maybe, you know, we are gaining some traction, some much needed traction, and getting this ship to eventually sail back.
In the right direction.
I mean, let's not forget President Trump also campaigned on the largest mass deportation efforts in history.
And I think this ties into that beautifully.
We've got to get our country back.
And this should be a no brainer.
It's sad that so many people are against it and against the America First agenda.
Well, all we need is a majority on that Supreme Court to agree with us.
So hopefully they do.
Hopefully this goes the right way.
Because it's just sad when you see certain parts of our country where we've just allowed people to come in that don't embrace what it truly means to be American and the values of this country that made it the country people wanted to migrate to.
A country built on freedom and rights and the Constitution.
It's like that's all being eroded because we're bringing in so many people that aren't assimilating.
They have no respect for our culture or our borders or our laws.
And so it's just if we don't put a stop to this, the future of America is probably pretty dark.
But hopefully, We get a good ruling.
I do want to pivot over to another big win that we've had, especially as Christians, got a big win here out of the Supreme Court.
If we can put the headline up for the conversion therapy.
Supreme Court ruled against Colorado's ban on conversion therapy aimed at LGBTQ youth.
So, have you spoken to anyone outside there today about this ruling in particular, or have you?
What can you tell us?
I would have liked to.
I would have liked to.
There was a number of people here, I guess, you know, trying to oppose Trump's effort to end birthright citizenship who also had trans and LGBT flags.
I'm not quite sure how the two go hand in hand, but that was a very prevalent scene here at the Supreme Court today.
I would have loved to have asked them about that.
But unfortunately, Heather, not many of these people were privy to talking to me.
You know, they're out here.
Able to express their First Amendment right, speak freely, their right to protest, their right to assemble.
But then when it comes to just asking very simple questions like, why do you support what you support?
Why are you here today?
Why are you in favor of this?
It's just the simplest of questions.
They could not even answer a single one.
They will not speak to me.
They immediately said, oh, you're with pillow TV, so I can't talk to you.
It's like, well, if you're so strong on your stance, you're so firm on why you believe what you believe, then why not?
Tell the world, right?
But no, they can't seem to have a conversation with anyone who perhaps might disagree with them.
So unfortunately, I did not get to ask them about that.
But I do think, as far as this particular case is concerned, it's very interesting that the court ruled 8 to 1.
Against Colorado's ban.
Only Katanji Brown Jackson found that the law improperly restricted speech between therapists and their parents.
So I guess, you know, it's very telling.
The iconic moment of Katanji Brown Jackson being unable to define what a woman is still lives, the legacy still lives on to this day.
I think it's relevant in this particular case.
So yeah, there's that.
Well, it's funny because, like, maybe if conversion therapy was allowed, some of those protesters out there wouldn't be waving those rainbow flags to begin with, right?
Because.
If you're not familiar with what conversion therapy is, it's essentially just like if you have a young kid who, I don't know, thinks they're born in the wrong body or they're having, you know, LGBTQ, you know, thoughts or whatever, a therapist can sort of like talk to them and, you know, like give them therapy and help them to understand that you're not in the wrong body.
You know what I mean?
And basically, it's just therapy.
It's literally just therapy to, you know, work with kids to resist.
Some of the thoughts that are coming in and being like a lot of kids these days are being groomed, right?
So I remember in Massachusetts when the conversion therapy first became a hot button issue, right?
Because Massachusetts is actually the first state in the entire country to legalize gay marriage.
So it started sort of with the gay marriage thing.
And as soon as gay marriage was passed, there was this narrative in the media about how conversion therapy is abusive, that it's child abuse to tell a child they're not actually gay.
And they started pushing the whole idea that you're born gay.
Do you remember when that was sort of coming out?
Yeah.
And as a Christian, right?
Like, if you believe God, one, doesn't make mistakes, and we all come into this world, we're all influenced by sin or sinful thoughts.
And it's funny that this is Holy Week here, but this is the conversation that I feel like hasn't been had around the conversion therapy, LGBTQ stuff is like the idea that children are born gay, there's no science to back that up.
And so, a lot of the people, a lot of the therapists that were using therapy, With these young kids coming out as gay, there's actually a number of former LGBTQ that actually went back to leading straight lives.
They got married, they had kids, and they actually said, No, I wasn't born that way.
I thought I was, but then through therapy, through prayer, through Jesus Christ, I was saved, and now I realized my identity in Him, and they lived straight heterosexual lives.
So the idea that they were trying to ban therapists from being able to have conversations.
Conversion therapy because they were claiming it was abusive to youth.
That same group, Allison, as you know, are the ones trying to give healthy kids double mastectomies and gender reassignment surgery and gaslighting them into believing they're in their wrong body.
So that Supreme Court win is actually huge because it's going to protect therapists all across the country from working with kids and reminding them that God doesn't make mistakes.
Absolutely.
It is huge.
And I'm so surprised, really, by this massive win.
I think it's huge.
I'm shocked some of the other justices ruled this way.
But I think it is just a further testament to the truth that God makes no mistakes.
No child is born in the wrong body.
And the fact that so many kids have been groomed and brainwashed at such an early age to believe otherwise is truly sickening.
And, you know, when you have people trying to help and put kids back on the right track and Uh, help them to, you know, realize that there are no mistakes.
Uh, that's, that's, you know, attempted to be criminalized now.
By these radical woke leftists who are trying to indoctrinate our kids at all costs.
So, yeah, it's huge.
I'm, again, just really shocked by this ruling.
And I'm grateful that hopefully we're restoring sanity in this nation.
Hopefully, you know, I mean, I just think anyone who has gone down that path clearly just needs Jesus.
It couldn't be more black and white to me.
I mean, I was so lost at one point in my life.
I thought everything was hopeless.
There was no future, and then I found the Lord, and He set me straight.
And it is, uh, it's been totally life changing.
And I think the same could be had for anyone who is confused about anything in their life.
There's so much clarity in scripture, and, um, and I'm so pleased to see this ruling work out this way.
So, um, yes, many, many stories of detransitioners and people who were formerly, you know, attracted to the opposite sex who have now found Jesus and, you know, have spoken out about that.
It's, it's amazing.
Beckett Cook is one of them.
He's a really interesting voice to listen to.
So, um, Check out his work if you haven't already.
But yes, that is a massive win, I think, for us here in America.
Yeah, absolutely.
And there's another, I think it's called the Changed Organization.
So on Instagram, I remember following them, and it was a whole bunch of them that, you know, did live, you know, the LGBTQ lives and then found their way back to Jesus.
And those stories are never told, right?
All these young kids are told, you're born this way, you're born this way.
And I truly believe this Supreme Court ruling is, Is a shield for an attack on Christians.
It's an attack on believers, which at the core essence of it, it is the world attacking Jesus Christ, right?
And everything that he stands for.
And it's interesting as we come up to Easter Sunday that, like, it's just becoming so much more real, the attacks on Christians here in America.
I had another story that I might end up having to cover tomorrow, but on that NBA player who was, you know, let go because he publicly stated, That he didn't believe in Pride Month and that he believes in Jesus Christ and he doesn't believe in all of that stuff.
And the NBA and the Chicago Bulls actually let him go.
And so when you look at bills like the one that had to be taken all the way up to the Supreme Court, what really was that bill?
It was an attack on Christianity at the core level of denying a therapist the right to tell a child that you were born in the right body, God didn't make mistakes, you're perfect.
And through him, you know what I mean?
Like you can be.
Whole.
And now we're seeing it in the NBA where it's like there's these constant attacks on what it means to be a Christian.
And so, you know, I think one thing I'd like to see is this is definitely a huge win, but it's to get to a place now where, you know, gender reassignment surgeries and things like that are banned nationwide because that's the fact that we even got that far to where that's happening to children is pretty crazy.
But I guess your final thoughts here, Allison, you know, just as a Christian, you know, What it means to have some of these SCOTUS victories.
Well, I'll say it is very refreshing.
I haven't been able to, you know, say that really recently because four years of Biden, gosh, everything seems so lost and so hopeless.
But President Trump, I really do believe, is working so hard on behalf of the American people.
He knows what the vast majority of Americans want.
And that is why he was duly elected, despite what all of the, you know, The Antifa crowd says all of these anti fascist people here.
The irony is so rich.
But I think President Trump's doing an amazing job.
I think the fact that these cases are making it all the way up to the Supreme Court and we're actually getting these massive wins is very indicative of the direction that this country is going.
We have a lot of work to be done here, but things are.
Slowly but surely, seemingly turning around.
Now, I know it's not happening at the pace that most people would like, myself included, on that, but I do think we have to celebrate the wins where we can get them.
And I think this particular Supreme Court ruling is a huge one that you mentioned regarding the Colorado conversion therapy ban.
And then this one, too, that we talked about earlier, the birthright citizenship.
I feel, you know, we have to continue these conversations.
That's how we make real change and real headway.
So I think the future is promising.
And even if Even if it all doesn't work out and the worst case scenario happens and it's all downhill from here, or maybe things aren't panning out the way we'd hope, we always have to remember that our faith is not in man, but our faith is in Jesus.
And he provides us a way out of this wicked world that is slowly passing away every day.
We know the end of the story.
So our faith is in Jesus.
We're going to remain hopeful in him, even if things don't continue in the right direction here.
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But we hope.
That they do.
We'll stay hopeful that, you know, we continue getting some wins here.
Well, thank you so much, Allison.
We always appreciate you.
I mean, you are boldly proclaiming truth everywhere you go, from SCOTUS to the Hill.
And so we just appreciate your contribution.
Thank you so much, Heather.
Appreciate you too.
And you know who else we appreciate is Mike Lindell, right?
One of my favorite Christians, because where else can you go and get the bold, unfiltered truth?
From a Christian perspective, right?
I mean, I used to, I remember when I first got in media and I just remembered like, you watch the news and you never hear about God, you never hear about Jesus Christ.
But the very fabric of our country is that we were a Christian nation.
I mean, it's got, we've got in God we trust on our money.
We've got, you know, our founding fathers who are Bible believing Christians that wrote our Constitution from literally scripture.
I mean, a jury of our peers that didn't come out of thin air.
It came from the Bible.
And so our entire country has historically just been a Christian nation, but the legacy media stopped telling the news from a Christian lens.
And I just have to give a shout out to Mike Lindell.
And I'm super grateful and honored to be working here at Lindell TV because that Christian lens is so needed when it comes to telling the truth, because that's where the truth comes from, right?
God is the truth.
And if you're walking in sin in this world, it's a spiritual battle we're in, right?
You had a case going all the way up to the Supreme Court on whether or not therapists can tell kids, right, that they're not born in the wrong body and work with them.
Whereas you have other doctors in the country that are giving, that are gaslighting children.
I mean, that's good versus evil if I ever saw it.
And with that ruling in SCOTUS, good one.
And that's a huge, huge ruling in the right direction.
But We want to make sure that we continue to bless the Lord here at Lindell TV and really report truths that is going to serve the kingdom because that's what it all comes down to is good versus evil.
And if you're not walking with the Lord, you're walking with the world and you're going to fall this in.
And so we're going to have a lot more great stuff coming up this week, a lot more probably godly content as we celebrate the resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on Sunday.
So make sure you tune in tomorrow for another hour here on the mic.