March 30, 2026 - The Lindell Report - Mike Lindell
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The Mike Lindell Show - March 30th, 2026
Heather Mullins and Allison Steinberg dissect the March 30, 2026 government shutdown, detailing President Trump's executive order to pay 50,000 TSA agents via the "One Big Beautiful Bill" amidst DHS funding impasses and Senate gridlock over ICE exclusion. The report expands to international threats of regime change in Iran and CPAC interviews with Polish MPs regarding LGBTQ ideology and mass deportations. Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino joins to argue that 80 million voters demand removing 100 million people, criticizing asylum delays and corruption in Maui fire investigations while championing Operation Catahoula Crunch as a model for state-federal border security partnerships. [Automatically generated summary]
Heather Mullins here, guest hosting for Mike Lindell.
I missed you guys toward the end of last week, but you know, CPAC, what a weekend.
We have a lot more on that later in the show, some interviews that we got with some pretty important people and some other interviews that you might be shocked by.
But we're going to switch over and go over to Capitol Hill where Allison Steinberg, you guys have probably met her.
She's going to be joining us now from The Hill to let us know what's going on there.
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Welcome back, everybody.
That's a Monday for you.
Lots of tech issues and all kinds of things going on.
But while we wait for Allison to join us, she's having some issues over there on the Hill.
Let's pull up the first sort of article here from The Hill, giving an update on the latest with the TSA paychecks.
I know The Hill put out this article saying that the Transportation Security Administration employees may finally get some relief on Monday after President Trump signed an executive order to pay the 50,000 strong airport workforce despite the ongoing Department of Homeland Security shutdown.
Officials are hoping the restoration of TSA employees' pay will be enough to lure those who have been calling out back to work, easing the long lines and wait times facing travelers.
But it's not clear how quickly that will happen.
Some major airports continued to advise passengers to show up four or more hours before flights over the weekend.
TSA call out rates topped 10% nationwide Saturday, a slight drop from the high reached on Friday.
Several major airports had a quarter or more of their staff call out.
Well, House Borders are Tom Holman said he was unsure whether federal immigration officers would leave airports once TSA agents started getting paid again.
So I've been fortunate enough in my travels over the last week or so.
I've been to multiple airports, I think DCA, Dallas, Boston, a couple others.
And my TSA wait lines were actually not bad.
So one thing I would recommend people doing, if you are planning on traveling, you can go do a quick Google search, look up the airport you're going to and type in, you know, Dallas TSA wait times.
And there's a lot of resources on there where they are keeping track of these things just so you can know.
It also is probably worth noting that depending on the time of day you fly, that could also impact the TSA lines.
But from my perspective and what I've seen out there so far, they really haven't been that bad.
We want to also go to some sound bites that Allison had given us over the Dems that were upset that Trump is what they call illegally paying TSA agents.
So let's go ahead and take a listen to one of those sound bites.
What did Democrats get out of this standoff?
Yeah, well, Margaret, the standoff is not done yet, right?
The president is illegally paying, apparently, TSA agents.
You had the Senate, as you pointed out with Mr. Hone and Holman, pass a bipartisan bill unanimously in the United States Senate to say, look, let's fund everybody else and let's deal with this thorny issue about ICE.
And then you had the Republican House say, hell no, we're not doing that.
Well, there we go.
Welcome back, Allison.
It's one of those Mondays.
Oh, yeah.
That's happy Monday to y'all.
Yeah, so you just caught the tail end of what you were covering there, Heather, but that looked like the clip of Democrats being upset over the fact that Trump is actually trying to do everything possible to pay TSA agents while the government is partially shut down.
Now, this is, of course, a result of Democrats being unwilling to compromise on the DHS funding bill.
They are going to do everything they can to continue to try to strip ICE out of the funding bill, which now apparently Senate Republicans are even okay with.
They just capitulated with Democrats in this move to keep ICE out of the DHS funding bill, which the House was very unhappy with.
But we'll dive more into that in just a moment.
To the point of that clip you just played there, Democrats are very upset about Trump trying to pay TSA agents, which is just ridiculous.
I mean, we're on day 44 of this partial shutdown.
They've gone weeks without a paycheck.
They're still showing up to work, working as hard as ever.
Granted, you know, there are massive call-outs happening as a result of all this.
And, you know, can't really knock them for that.
I mean, you got to ask yourself, would you continue to show up for a job that you're not even getting paid for?
So a big thank you to all the brave men and women that continue to show up to work.
But yes, the administration is using funds that are available that are tied to the One Big Beautiful bill to try to get TSA operations funded during this time.
But as you touched on there, critics argue that only Congress has the authority to allocate federal spending and that this move crosses legal boundaries.
So now I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens with this, if this is going to get tied up in court, how that's going to affect the paychecks for the TSA agents, whether or not they will actually see that money, because if the courts rule in favor of Democrats on this, then will TSA agents that got a payout have to pay that money back?
I don't know.
Creates such havoc in a situation that really is quite simple.
And that is that we should just come to an agreement and get the DHS funding bill passed and cut out all this nonsense.
We shouldn't even have to be looking to these alternative measures to get this done.
We should just get the bill passed, which has never had any trouble with passing any other year.
It's simply a matter of Democrats wanting to use the American people as leverage to push their radical agenda.
And their radical agenda includes massive reforms to ICE that would make the agency look totally unrecognizable.
So it's all very frustrating.
But I, you know, got to give credit where it's due.
And I do appreciate President Trump trying to get these hardworking TSA agents paid during this very difficult time.
I can't even imagine what that must be like.
Didn't Elon Musk also put out a tweet saying that he would offer to pay TSA agents?
I like, I remember seeing that over on Ag.
Yeah, I think I remember seeing that too.
I don't have the tweet prepared, but I do recall Elon Musk stepping up to the plate once again to assist in a matter that has resulted to Democrats being unable to do their job.
So yeah, a big thank you to Elon Musk if he's stepping up to the plate here and doing what he can do to try to help get these agents paid during this funding lapse.
So that is very admirable.
I think, again, it all just speaks to the bigger issue, which is that we need to get this funding measure passed once and for all.
But unfortunately, there are massive delays happening on that front now.
As we know, Congress has just vacated the premise for a two-week-long Easter vacation.
Why anyone gets two weeks off for Easter is beyond me, but that's another topic for another day.
I think the fact that Congress is okay leaving for a two-week vacation, knowing that this bill is just looming without any progress in sight, is incredibly infuriating and incredibly defiant to the American people who are depending on Congress to get this done.
Now, while Congress is out on this two-week recess, there are going to be a number of what are called pro forma sessions.
And these pro-forma sessions are basically just a handful of members of Congress who come to meet.
In this case, it's the Senate because they're now trying to pass this latest House bill that does include funding for ICE as well as DHS as a whole.
So unlike the original Senate version of this bill, the House-passed version includes funding for all agencies encompassed within DHS.
So now the struggle is getting this through the Senate.
So the Senate's going to hold these pro forma sessions where a handful of senators will convene and basically vote whether or not they're going to move forward with passing the House measure, which would be a 60-day extension.
It's a continuing resolution that would fund all of DHS for the next 60 days.
Of course, this is not a long-term solution.
It's ultimately just kicking the can further down the road.
And we're going to have to address all of these issues again 60 days from now if it passes, but it's better than options we've seen thus far.
So now the question remains: will the Senate be able to get this passed during these pro forma sessions?
Well, unfortunately, that's looking very unlikely as well because we have an update here from Bill Melusian, who reported on this earlier today.
And this is really interesting.
Like I said, it's a handful of senators that meet.
But if there's one opposition party present, then it can shut down the whole effort to get this bill passed.
So as Bill Malujan's reporting, Senator John Hovind, who oversaw the pro forma session this morning, said he didn't even introduce the House passed DHS funding bill via unanimous consent today because Chuck Schumer sent in Democrat Senator Coons there to just immediately object to it and therefore kill the bill.
So as long as there is a Democrat present, this is not going to get passed.
And you better believe that during all of these scheduled pro forma sessions, which I believe there are four of for the duration of the two-week recess, there's going to be a Democrat present there to kill the bill.
So I wouldn't count on any progress being made on getting DHS funded during this recess, which is just, again, it's just unacceptable.
I don't think, you know, Congress should be allowed to go on a two-week break if they don't get their job done.
And I think that's generally the consensus of most Americans at this point in time.
Yeah, so what really like comes to my mind is, you know, we had all these illegals that came across the border that managed to get federal funding for their food stamps, their housing.
I mean, we essentially imported an entire country on welfare, right?
And then like they were all being put up in these hotels.
They were being given EBT cards, health insurance, whatever it is they needed.
How are we able to fund the illegals here in our country with federal tax dollars, but we can't fund the law enforcement to go deport them for breaking into our country in the first place?
Like you would think, like, is there some, like, I really wonder how many American tax dollars right now are going to support people here illegally?
And, you know, what can be done to sort of leverage, be like, okay, well, if we can't fund ICE, we're going to cut off the funnel of resources going to these states that are harboring these individuals.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, that should be a no-brainer.
And I think that is, you know, ultimately the goal.
And I think it's the very reason why President Trump was elected, but it just goes to show how misaligned Congress is, or at least the Senate is, with the MAGA agenda.
And everything that President Trump campaigned on is just simply not getting done.
And mostly because of the Senate, I think we could all agree on anything, all of these good measures, good attempts to pass some real legislation that would make some of these real changes just die every time they hit the Senate.
And it's ridiculous, which is, again, another, you know, reason to point back at potentially just nuking the filibuster altogether.
We have had many conversations, namely surrounding the Save America Act, of getting rid of the zombie filibuster and implementing the talking filibuster, forcing the filibuster the way it was intended to work, making the opposition party go on record and talking for as long as they can to oppose whatever bill it is.
It's very clear.
It's very apparent, Heather, that is not happening.
Republicans had a great opportunity to implement that during the Save America debate.
That did not happen.
Instead, we got some weird hybrid version where it was somewhat implemented, but not by the opposition party.
So if we're not going to implement the filibuster the way it was intended to work, then I think we need to then have a very serious conversation about nuking it all together.
And now we're hearing growing calls from members of Congress on this front, even Mike Lee, who has been such a huge proponent of implementing the talking filibuster, now just going to saying, you know what, if we're not going to get anything done, and if every time we have a critical piece of legislation that needs to move,
that needs to get passed, it needs to get signed into law, and it's being held up by the minority party, then we need to have a serious conversation about nuking the filibuster once and for all and getting this agenda passed and signed into law so that we can get out of this gridlock that continues to happen time and time again.
This is our second government shutdown in the last six months and it's just not okay.
So we've got to find a workaround here.
And hopefully that's, you know, a more widely received conversation that we can keep having as we progress here.
And maybe more senators will be open to that idea as it stands now.
They're obviously not because I think they're probably all in on this together.
But, you know, it's good to keep asking these questions.
So when they're back, I will certainly ask.
In the meantime, though, Senator Mike Lee, arguably one of the very few members of the Senate that actually works on behalf of the American people, is now calling for Thun to come back and cancel the recess that they are currently in to get this job done.
Let's take a listen to that clip from Mike Lee.
The Department of Homeland Security remains unfunded.
There isn't a good reason for the Senate to not reconvene immediately, you know, unless we can find a way.
I hope, I hope and pray that the Senate Democrats will agree by unanimous consent tomorrow to pass what the House of Representatives passed the other day.
From what we're hearing, that's not likely.
If that's not going to happen, we've got to reconvene immediately because we can't leave the Department of Homeland Security funding up in the air for the next two weeks.
This is ridiculous.
Now, for a bit of breaking news, I just saw right as I was coming on with you, Heather, that it has now been revealed that Jon Thune has responded to these calls to cancel the recess and come back to Washington.
He is saying he's going to refuse this option and they are going to proceed with their two-week vacation, citing that if they did return to Washington to fund DHS, it would just be a show vote.
But this is ridiculous, and this is all really just a giant slap in the face of the American people because the real show vote here is the one that happened at three in the morning when Senate leaders convened to try to pass this backroom deal to remove ICE from the DHS funding.
So lots of very questionable activities happening here.
And it's all very exhausting, very infuriating.
But as Mike Lee points out, President Trump could get involved and perhaps this is the way forward because I think these guys need to be held accountable.
I think they need to show up to work and I don't think they should be allowed to go on break when they're not doing their job.
I mean, would this be allowed in any other, you know, sector of employment?
Probably not.
But as Mike Lee stated in this post here, he said President Trump has the power to convene the Senate under Article 2, Section 3 of the Constitution on extraordinary occasions.
Lee goes on to say if a department with 260,000 employees, DHS, is going unfunded, it isn't an extraordinary occasion, especially while the Senate is out on two-week recess during that shutdown with no plans to resolve the impasse beyond.
We'll deal with that in two weeks.
I don't know what is.
So yeah, that's the point here is that I do think this qualifies as an extraordinary occasion.
I guess the question now remains: will President Trump get involved?
Will he call the Senate back to get the job done here?
I think he's got to start asserting, you know, some dominance into the situation and remind all of these guys, you know, what the plan is, because that's obviously not happening at this point in time.
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Yeah, I mean, it just feels like we've been talking about this for so long and that it's just like, yeah, I mean, like, I don't see where the end is.
So if Mike Lee is saying President Trump can call them back in and intervene, I mean, what would happen if he did that?
Like, let's say President Trump actually does do that and everyone has to come back and then they what, take a vote, but it's still, we're not going to have the numbers, even if he does that.
Is that where that puts us?
Well, now we are learning that Republicans are kind of done with this charade, kind of done trying to indulge Democrats on their ridiculous list of demands.
And if we want to go back to that Bill Malugin tweet regarding the pro forma session update, it kind of explains a little bit more about what Republicans are looking at moving forward.
He highlights in that post, he says, Hoven, who oversaw the pro forma session this morning, is now indicating that Senate Republicans are done negotiating with Democrats and he wants to pivot now to instead passing a three-year funding reconciliation bill, which would not require the support of Democrats.
So if we could repackage the DHS funding bill into a reconciliation, that would just require a simple majority to get passed.
And then we wouldn't need to rely on the Democrats for anything.
So then it begs the question, why wasn't this done much earlier?
That's something they probably should have sorted out before the break.
But nonetheless, it's something that could still be done.
It's an option that we're hearing a number of Republican senators now talking about.
So I think that would be a good, you know, sort of pinpoint to hone in on.
If we are talking about bringing the Senate back, we could have them get to work on that reconciliation bill so we can get this passed sooner rather than later and stop making the American people and the government employees wait to get their paycheck.
So I think that's sort of, you know, where it stands currently.
Another broader topic that many people are talking about is a conversation that's growing on social media outlets like X.
And now even we're hearing Congressman Tim Burchett talking about it is the fact that we got to start looking at replacing Senate leadership because if they can't even get simple things done, like the Save America Act or getting DHS funded, then what exactly are we doing?
And like I said, this is something I've been hearing a lot more about.
Now I think it's very interesting that we have sitting members of Congress talking about this too.
Let's take a listen to that clip from Congressman Tim Burchett.
I think he made a huge mistake, ma'am.
83% of the population supports President Trump Save America Act, which they should.
He ignores that.
He knew it as a member of the media ought to be disgusted at the fact they passed that thing at 2:25 in the morning and left all the other senators kind of hanging.
All he had to do is have five of his cronies on the floor.
He cuts a deal with Schumer.
Obviously, the leadership in the Senate, and that's on both sides of the aisle, has a real disgust for this president and House leadership because they didn't even have the guts to call Speaker Mike Johnson and let him know what happened.
The whole deal of the stereotype of Congress is, and it's well deserved that we pass stuff in the dark of night because we don't have any guts.
And that's clearly what's shown in the Senate leadership.
I think they need to get some new leadership over there, in my opinion.
And, you know, I think a lot of Americans would probably agree with Congressman Burchett on that one.
The thing I want to point out here, Heather, is that it's actually not, you know, a far-fetched idea or option to consider.
Though this has never happened in recent history to a sitting majority leader, it is not out of the question as it would only take five brave Republican members of the Senate to start to motion to put a vote on the floor to have Thune replaced.
And they would obviously need to nominate someone new to replace him.
But it would take five Republican senators to get this motion going.
And then it would just be a simple majority of vote again to decide whether or not they want to axe Thune and replace him with someone else.
So I think ultimately the question is: are there five Republicans in the Senate that would be willing to do this?
I don't know.
It's a lot of questionable activity here in the Senate, but finding five might be tough.
I can barely count on one hand, you know, the decent members of Republican senators, but maybe we could get five together that would be in favor of this.
If nothing else, to try to, you know, switch things up, see what a new power structure might look like.
I think it could do the country very well since Thune has proven time and time again to be highly ineffective.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's crazy because I think back to when we won the election, right?
And you're like, oh, we have the presidency, we have the House, we have the Senate.
We're going to get so much stuff done.
And like fast forward to today, we're in like the second year of the administration.
And I'm trying to sit here being like, what really have we done?
I mean, it's, it's, and, you know, I know President Trump wants to do all those things, but between the courts and between the issues that, you know, in the Senate and all these other obstacles, it's just like, is our system really that sort of like Overrun with the red tape and bureaucracy and like, and all this stuff that we really can't even pass like a Republican agenda when we occupy all three.
It's the question that I think every American is asking right now.
And then it's sad too, because Democrats use that to their advantage, saying that we have the Republican trifecta.
We control all angles of the government.
And then, and then this happens.
So it's a really bad look all around.
We've got to really get serious here and focus in if we want to have any shot of winning the midterms.
I mean, you would think that we wouldn't have Republicans doing shady backroom deals with Democrats in the dark of night in a very dire situation, like getting DHS funded when we have been ordered.
The people have been ordered to carry out the largest mass deportation effort in history.
And that is simply hindered.
It's stalled.
It's currently on ice, no pun intended, because nothing is happening.
And it's incredibly frustrating.
The American people are getting very fed up.
I think we've got to see some movement here.
We've got to get something done here in Congress if we want to clench the midterms, which are not too far away.
So now might be a good time to step into action.
I would be really interested to see if this conversation continues around new leadership.
Maybe if Kara ever could ask about that at the White House, that would be a good seed to start planting in the president's head.
So we'll try to see what we can do on that front.
Well, one last question, Allison.
Is Congress out specifically because of the Easter holiday?
And when do they return?
Yeah, they are out for two weeks for they call it the Easter break.
Now, you know, a lot of times when Congress is not in Washington, they are back home in their districts, you know, working with their constituents.
I guess it could be questioned how much work is actually getting done out there, but it is important for them to take, you know, time off to spend in their home cities and their counties and whatnot.
So perhaps work will be getting done back home.
But as far as getting anything done here in DC, where, you know, things are critical and, you know, TSA agents are still not getting paid.
DHS agents are still not getting paid.
It's just really unacceptable.
So they will be back if nothing changes.
If we don't have some miraculous call from President Trump to send them back to Washington, they will be back two weeks from today, two Mondays from now.
So we'll see what happens.
It'll be an interesting two weeks.
Yeah, it'll be interesting because I'm like, I don't know how many believers are actually there in Congress, right?
So you're taking off like the Easter sort of holiday, which is about celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
But it's like, how many of them, you know, are actually believers.
And, you know, I hope and pray for their souls.
Hopefully, while they're out on this, you know, undeserving two-week recess, hopefully they do go to church and they do find the Lord because that's all we can hope and pray for.
That's a great point.
It's amazing that some of these, you know, very questionable characters are benefiting from the Christian holidays that they spent the better part of the last four years trying to suppress and come against anyone who, you know, was bold in their faith and stood on principle.
No, that was not tolerated.
But when it comes to a vacation for them, they'll gladly take it.
So, you know, it's totally unfair.
But yeah, we'll keep praying for them, hoping that some of these guys here come around and get in touch with their faith and come to know the Lord because Lord knows they need it, especially here.
Amen.
Well, thank you so much for joining us, Allison.
It's good to have you back.
Thanks, Heather.
Good to see you.
And don't go anywhere.
We're going to take a short break here.
And when we come back, we're going to unpack some of the interviews that we got down at CPAC over the weekend.
So we'll be right back.
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We want to quickly touch on some news regarding the situation in Iran.
President Trump actually put out a tweet this morning announcing a possible regime change.
In his Truth Social post, the president said the United States of America is in serious discussions with a new and more reasonable regime to end our military operations in Iran.
Great progress has been made, but if for any reason a deal is not shortly reached, which it probably will be, and if the Hormuz Street is not immediately open for business, we will conclude our lovely stay in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their electric generating plants, oil wells, and Karga Island, and possibly all the salinization plants, which we have purposely not yet touched.
This will be in retribution for our many soldiers and others that Iran has butchered and killed over the regime's 47-year reign of terror.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
So, that was what the president put out.
But as many of you know, and as we've been reporting, there are some people speaking out against war with Iran and specifically a regime change war as well.
Joe Kent, his former administration official, he was the former director of the National Counterterrorism Center.
He resigned about a week or two ago, stating that the Israelis were falsely influencing President Trump and that Iran was not an imminent threat.
In fact, Joe Kent took to social media today, and mind you, he is a 10-time combat veteran.
He was deployed 10 times to combat zones.
And he said, call to action.
Tell President Trump, your congressional rep, and your senators that you don't support American boots on the ground in Iran.
Let's take a listen to his video.
This week, President Trump will be under immense pressure to commit ground troops to the war in Iran.
This would be a catastrophic escalation that will only result in more bloodshed and further escalate this disastrous war.
It is critical that we the people have our voices heard.
Contact the White House comment line, contact the congressional switchboard, ask for your representative, ask for your senators, respectfully tell them that we do not support putting any boots on the ground in Iran.
This is how we the people can have our voices heard.
It's critical that we pray for peace, but it's also critical that we work towards peace.
Respectfully contact your elected officials and let them know we the people do not support this war.
Thank you.
God bless.
Now, it's interesting because there has been, I've been hearing a lot just from my circles of people that are speaking out against war with Iran.
There's actually a libertarian gentleman that I know from here in New Hampshire who he supported President Trump, even donated $60,000 to his campaign.
And I don't have it to put on screen, but I'll read it for you.
He posted this this morning.
He said, I'm a Republican.
I supported Trump.
I raised money for him.
I voted for him.
I donated $60,000 to his campaign.
It says, you can disagree with me if you want.
It's your right to be fooled.
But if you say I have TDS or I am a liberal, you need a new argument.
There are millions of conservatives and members of the now torched broad coalition just like me.
And he said he didn't vote for Lindsey Graham and America's second policy.
So there is sort of this divide going on right now with what is going on in Iran.
I did actually have a chance to interview some people about this subject when I was at CPAC over the weekend.
Interestingly enough, there was a number of different countries represented at the conference.
I think I spoke with people from Romania's delegation, the European delegation, Poland, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina.
It was actually quite impressive how many countries were represented at that convention.
But, you know, we'll have to wait and see.
I'm sure there's going to be some briefings this week from the Pentagon on this issue.
So we'll have to bring you guys the latest.
But let's go ahead and play my interview that I did with the Polish member of parliament whose name, let me tell you, guys, one of the hardest parts about being a journalist is pronouncing names.
And these European and Polish names, like I couldn't pronounce them to save my life.
So let's go ahead and take a listen.
And you can read the lower thirds and try to decipher for yourself.
Take a listen.
Heather Mullins here, Pentagon correspondent with Windell TV.
And joining me now at CPAC, we have a member of the Polish parliament joining me.
And I'm going to try to say your name with Gregos Gragosz Proczek.
Okay, there you go.
That's the name.
I've practiced like 10 times before this interview and I couldn't get it down.
But what brings you to CPAC this year to speak to Americans?
What is your message here?
We are also fighting in Poland.
We have the same enemy, and I think this is a perfect place that we can show as nations that Americans and Polish people are ready to fight together.
We presented this approach in the last years and decades, so this is the perfect place and spot for people from the right side of the heart, however you explain.
Yeah, so what kind of issues are you having over there in Poland?
Is it similar to some of the stuff that we're dealing with here in the United States?
Very similar.
We have issues which happened first in 2020.
So I can talk for ages about COVID lockdowns.
And now I think what Trump is doing, he's trying to stop levists.
And also Hungary, Poland, Czech, Slovenia, Slovakia are also in a very difficult situation.
And so the only way I see as a parliamentarist to win this battle or maybe even a war is to just fight together.
So has the situation unfolding in Iran right now that the US has been dealing with?
Has that impacted you guys a lot?
Oh yeah, many people, unfortunately, like on the streets, they need to pay more for fuel.
So not everyone understands how the policy works.
And so the situation is a little bit complicated not in London but in Europe, also in Poland.
And I think people expect that somehow the war, these fights will end.
But I think I'm afraid that not many people know how it will end.
So we are crossing our fingers.
And we have the war in Ukraine.
So the question is, do we really know how it will end the situation in Iran?
It's very complicated.
We understand how complex the situation is.
So everybody's waiting for decisions.
What would be the best outcome for you guys over in Poland?
Generally, I think what we are trying to achieve is the respect of the tradition, is respect to values, these values who are a part of our nation and also of your nation.
We are fighting to have the moment where normal, normal way of thinking will be something which will be part of our life.
Now the propaganda and this misinformation and disinformation, especially coming from Brussels, unfortunately, is a nightmare in Poland.
But we know that we are actually, as a matter of fact, only in a group of few countries who try to survive and we need a stronger partner.
And that's why we are here in the United States, telling you that you are not alone and we want also strong allies.
Is that what the Polish president was here to deliver a message about?
Did you catch his message?
I know.
I know a lot about our president.
Karol Navorowski is a very strong president.
He's a real fighter.
I'm not talking about box, but I'm talking about politics.
And I'm very proud that Polish president decided to come here.
It's a little bit a pity that your president had to cancel, but I understand how difficult the situation is in your country.
I listen every sentence which was said today by the president, and I think that was a really great speech.
Yeah, and then final question here is just what would be your message as a member of the Polish parliament to President Trump and just the people here in America?
Poland is still the country who would like to remain a strong partner in Europe, and you can count on us.
And if we want to, as I said, if we want to win this battle, we need to fight together.
You are responsible for your nation, but we are responsible for Polish people.
And if we want to have the better world, and I really mean it, we need to fight together.
Sounds great.
We need more bridges built and not burned.
Well, many bridges were destroyed and ruined, and not by us, but by our enemies.
And we know that the left side and the leftists can really do something together.
So to be able to win, we also need to be like a mutual army, not in terms of guns, but in terms of thinking.
Diplomacy.
Exactly.
Yeah, so thank you so much for taking the time.
I'm going to try this right here, right?
Dregors.
Really?
Okay, well, thank you so much.
All right, Heather Mollins, Pentagon correspondent, Lindell TV with the Polish member of their parliament.
All right, as you can see, I'm terrible with names.
And it didn't get any easier when I interviewed the member of the European Parliament.
But one thing I found very interesting is that a lot of the issues that we're facing here in the United States, everything from the LGBTQ ideology, the issues related to the pandemic.
I know the gentleman there from Poland was telling me that they had a lot of issues with the draconian COVID era pandemic laws and the vaccines and all the other issues there.
And so it's crazy because we experienced this in the United States, but because of CPAC and all that international representation that was there, I was able to realize that this is such a global issue that we're all fighting.
And like the same powers that be that unleashed all of these issues on the United States did so in many of our allied countries.
So let's take a listen to my next interview with a gentleman who is a member of the European Parliament.
Take a listen.
And joining me now is a member of European Parliament.
We have Martin Sipniewski.
Whoa, yeah, Marcin Sipnewski.
Thank you for joining us.
Okay, so what brings you to CPAC?
I know we've seen a lot of international representation here.
What specifically brought you here today?
Well, as you mentioned, I'm a member of European Parliament and year by year, day by day, there is less freedom in Europe.
We've got environmental things, we've got a lot of LGBT propaganda, a lot of cancer culture also in Europe.
And I want to see if there are any normal world outside Europe.
So there is.
And the second important thing is also Poland.
Poland is still better than the rest of Europe.
We've got a clean and safe country.
We've got our values, we defend them.
Our president tomorrow, today, was also speaking about it.
So do you have, it sounds like you have a lot of the same issues in Europe that we have here in the United States?
Are you also dealing with the migrant sort of crisis that we're facing as well?
Yeah, Europe has a very big problem with immigrants.
That was very stupid politics provided by Angela Merkel, by European politics.
They opened the borders and many people from Africa, from Asia went to Europe and stayed until now.
Yes, but last week we win the voting in the European Parliament.
We make a big change about the deportation because before we change this law, 80% of people which KERT said that they have to go outside the European Union,
they didn't do it and nobody wants to deport them.
And now there will be possibility to deport them outside the European Union.
That's the really big change and I'm very proud that I may vote for this new law who I hope will make a better Europe for the future.
In Poland there is also, but there is little problem comparing to Germany, to France, to the rest of Western Europe.
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And what has the European Parliament's sort of like position been?
Maybe it's divided, but just on the US situation with Iran?
European Parliament gave his statements about Iranian opposition, about the situation in Iran with that demonstration with government who should to the people.
That was the statement which was proposed and supported by almost every party in European Parliament besides the far left.
They voted against it.
And now I think it's also the same, but our leftists don't like President Trump, so they never support him.
We have those here too, the leftists.
Have you guys been impacted by the situation with the Strait of Hormuz, like in terms of energy and things like that, the oil and yeah, there is a very big problem because the prices of gasoline are increasing, prices of gas also.
And The West, in Poland, we've got energy where the main source is coal.
And gas is gas, gas isn't a very big problem.
But our government just planned decarbonization, just like the rest of Europe.
They are greens and wanted to ban the coal and make decarbonization of Europe.
And they've got plans of gas.
And when we see today that gas from Qatar is blocked, there is a very big problem for Europe.
And there may be a big problem for Poland also in the future.
We have to see on that.
And that amount of gas which is transferred to Europe directly from the US is safe because war has impact only from that gas which is transported by ships from Qatar.
And that's the problem.
All right, so final question here is just what message do you have, you know, as a member of the European Parliament to President Trump and Americans here just in terms of the U.S. relationship?
Relationship between the EU and the U.S.
I remember the first day after US elections we watched the live relation in TV and the day after the European Parliament, the majority looks like after a very bad party.
They weren't happy that President Trump won.
And we see that every day that the relations is tough because of ideological leftists and Greens in Europe's ends.
Well, I thank you so much.
Marchin Siniewski.
There we go.
Another name.
But it's interesting, right, getting to hear perspectives from people serving in parliaments across the globe here.
We got some other, I actually got an interview with the former president of South Korea, which we will hopefully be able to air tomorrow.
But before we do that, I want to play another interview I got at CPAC with Nick Sortor.
He's a journalist that has done some incredible work all across the country, everything from the Maui fires to the immigration crisis.
I bumped into him at CPAC and he had quite a bit to say.
So let's take a listen to Nick Sortor.
We're here at CPAC with independent journalist Nick Sortor.
So Nick, your reaction to CPAC so far?
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So far, so good.
I mean, there's a lot of energy here, especially I'm impressed by the amount of young folks that came out.
And we've been going around with Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino, all over the place.
The excitement around the fact that he is here, saw him up on stage early, he got a standing ovation.
People are excited as hell for the prospect of mass deportation, so we got to keep pushing for it.
Yeah, and so what do you think we're going to see that going forward?
I know obviously his situation kind of puts a damper on that, but where do we stand?
I'm nervous, which is why we're, you know, I thought that it was important to bring him.
I brought him out here personally because I wanted to show people that it's a very popular thing, mass deportations.
They have people that are trying to spin it as a political liability.
It is not.
The people want it.
They demanded it back in November of 2024 when 80 million people voted for Donald Trump.
Yeah.
And I remember you and I actually went to the border one time together and saw like about 400 people in like one hour coming, all military-aged men.
I mean, that threat still exists here in America.
So, you know, so that's a popular thing.
I mean, are we at least seeing those types of people rounded up?
No, not really, because of the fact that they have like asylum claims and such.
The thing that you hear the term worst of the worst thrown around a lot, and they now use that qualifier of what is it, criminal illegal aliens rather than just illegal aliens.
And that is code for amnesty for people like this guy, Jose Medina Medina, the guy that got arrested for murdering an 18-year-old college girl up there in Chicago, a guy that was recently released after being arrested for shoplifting.
They refused to notify ICE or the immigration authorities in general and just let him back onto the street so that he could go and murder this innocent college girl.
It's sick.
It's sick.
I don't know.
If somebody tells you worst of the worst, shoplifting doesn't seem to fall into that definition.
So they're free to go.
We can't do that.
Yeah, you got to get them all.
Okay, so let me ask you one other question.
You covered the Maui fires and a lot of that situation.
And I'm just curious if under this administration, if there's been any investigations into what was going on over there.
Well, the Hawaiian government, as well as the county of Maui, have stonewalled the hell out of any sort of deep investigations into what happened out there in Lahaina.
But what's really needed is it's going to take the people to demand an investigation.
But there are, just to be totally honest with you, that people are afraid of their government out there.
They are afraid of calling anything out because they don't know what could potentially happen to them.
It's one of the most corrupt states in the country, and they're on this island in the middle of the Pacific.
I can understand why they're a little bit afraid to do so.
Yeah.
All right.
So final question just here at CPAC.
What are the other big issues that you're hearing from people here that you're covering that are important to Republicans?
Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with the Save America Act.
That's a big one.
I would say the two main issues are immigration, deportations, really, and the Save America Act, voter integrity.
You get a lot of feedback from people just, they seem deflated over the fact that we can't get this one freaking issue through.
We cannot get the Save America Act, voter ID, for some reason.
We can't get that through the U.S. Senate.
And most people, they see that Republicans are in charge on both sides, right?
There is a way to get it through, but they're refusing to do it.
And so people are like, why bother going to the polls?
You know, nothing changes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Fair enough.
So actually, one more question.
Thoughts on Mike Lindell running for governor in Minnesota?
I'm all for it.
I'm all for it.
So that's a hell of a, if he pulls that off, that's going to be, hell, I'll move to Minnesota for that one at that point.
I don't know if I'm welcome in Minnesota at this point, but you know, I don't know.
You'll move there for Mike Lindell if he's going to go.
Mike Lindell, if he's going there, yeah.
Governor Mike Lindello Mohort.
All right.
Thank you so much.
Nick Sortor, where can people go to follow you?
On X because they'll ban me on all the other platforms.
So it's X at Nick Sortor, N-I-C-K-S-O-R-T-O-R.
All right.
Thank you so much, Nick.
And it's funny, Nick mentioned he brought Greg Bovino there.
He's a retired United States Border Patrol officer who served as the commander at large of Border Patrol from October 2025 to January 26.
But he's been in for 30 years and we have an interview with him as well.
So take a listen.
All right.
So we have Greg Bovino here, retired Border Patrol now.
Just your reaction to your new early retirement.
Hey, you know what?
All things happen for a purpose and I'm blessed to have spent 30 years with the very best.
Those U.S. Border Patrol agents.
You know, it was my life's honor to work with them.
And, you know, 30 years without doesn't get any better than that.
So what is your plan now that you're not with Border Patrol?
Well, you know, CPAC, this is first CPAC I've ever been to.
And, you know, I'm going to see what happens here in the future.
Probably write a book.
And I'm going to write a book.
And you know what?
Whatever happens from there, we'll see.
Life's an adventure, and we always plan for a good adventure.
We got to have a good time.
Yeah, we do.
So last question.
One more question.
Just people are worried, though, about the status of the deportation efforts on the part of DHS.
A lot of people were supportive of you.
So now that you're not with DHS, like what is your take on the current status of the deportations here in America?
Sure.
The American culture and character will be changed forever unless we do something now.
Time is getting late, as Jimi Hendrix said.
And that time is getting late.
Do something now.
And it has to be something big.
And it has to be something very aggressive.
The Americans are up to it.
And let's take our nation back.
And do you think that can be done, though, with the current administration?
I mean, what do we have to do in order to, because I mean, we saw 20 plus million military-aged men come across our border.
I mean, if there's going to be any administration that it can be done in, it's this one.
President Trump's best president I've ever worked for, hands down, gave us everything we needed.
So I think the president's going to do the right thing.
And you know what?
We can deport 100 million and it's not that hard.
It's not rocket science.
Amen.
And how important is it that people like, I don't know, Mike Lindell become governor of states?
Like, how important is the governors with their partnership with Border Patrol and ICE?
Because I know, you know, Texas governor was here speaking.
You've been in Border Patrol for what, 30 years?
30 years?
So like, do the governor, does having a good governor make a difference in your line of work?
It does, absolutely.
Take a look at Governor Landry in Louisiana.
We worked with Governor Landry there and had, and we had the best operation, the best immigration operation that we had over the past year.
That was Louisiana, Operation Catahoula Crunch.
Governor Landry supported us top to bottom, and we had one use, one violent incident in a month.
One.
Now, contrast that to Chicago or other areas where it was many incidents per day.
And, you know, that was that government.
So whether it's Mike Lindell or anyone else, please put in for it.
Work with the U.S. Border Patrol.
The Mean Green team is on America's side.
All right.
And then what's your one message that you want the American people to know?
We're in this together.
A lot of young people out there that are very active, very active in politics and taking their country back.
Keep that up.
I learned that here at CPAC.
Those young conservatives, wow, what a bright bunch of young people.
Keep it up.
Thank you so much, Chris.
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