March 25, 2026 - The Lindell Report - Mike Lindell
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Rigged, Hidden, Denied: Inside the Election Cover-Up Machine: The Mike Lindell Show
Mike Lindell, Jason Frazier, and Mark Cook dissect Georgia's election integrity crisis, detailing how Democrats blocked Frazier's appointment to the Board of Registration, resulting in a vacated $10,000-per-day contempt fine. They expose alleged backdoors in electronic voting systems that allow untraceable manipulation, contrasting opaque machines with their proposed hand-counted Progressive Election Platform. Addressing duplicate registrations and Tina Peters' imprisonment, they argue for strict voter roll maintenance to prevent fraud while condemning current systems as a "pyramid of lies," urging citizens to engage locally to dismantle the alleged cover-up machine before CPAC. [Automatically generated summary]
We've officially made it halfway through the week, but I want you guys all to make sure you're watching Lindell TV for the next couple of days because we're going to have some incredible coverage down at CPAC.
A lot of great speakers.
We're going to have some exclusive interviews.
But for today's show, we're going to switch to a subject very near and dear to myself and Mike Lindell, which is election integrity.
And joining me now from the state of Georgia, Jason Frazier and Mark Cook.
Thank you both for joining me.
Good to see you, Heather.
So thank you both for joining me.
I want to start off by pulling up a tweet here from you, Jason.
You dropped the news on us that the Fulton County Board of Elections update, Georgia Court of Appeals just overturned the trial court's ruling.
If this holds, the Dems on the Fulton County Board of Commissioners can essentially pick their Democrat Board of Election members, the chair and the Republicans.
And so for those that aren't familiar with Jason's story, we have him on quite a bit, but you could be new here.
Jason was appointed years ago to the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, made up of both Democrats and Republicans and a chair.
But Jason has been denied the ability to be appointed to that board and has been fighting for years now, correct, Jason, to get on there.
So tell us about that first lawsuit, right?
Where a judge had actually ordered them to put you on.
They were fining them like $10,000 a day or something to that effect.
Probably have a new ruling.
So break it down for us.
Yeah, I was originally nominated to be on the Fulton County Board of Elections in 2023, but that seat was blocked by the Democrats on the Fulton County Board of Commissioners.
And just to make life a little simpler, they went ahead and pulled my name and appointed Julie Adams, who is there today.
She's doing a great job.
But because we didn't push back, we didn't change the legislation, we didn't fight it.
Then fast forward two years comes the new term that should have started July 1 of 2025.
And the Democrats on the Board of Commissioners were empowered to block both of us.
Now, Julie has been on that board continuously because the way the law is written is you stay in your seat until a new name is put forward.
So she was able to hold over until she was renominated.
But essentially, they blocked my seat again.
So it has been empty.
So we've only had one Republican on that board since around July and Julie there.
So it's a one to three minority.
But then we sued.
The GOP, they needed to hold the line this time.
So we sued.
We won in court and they did not appoint us.
We held them in contempt.
They were held in contempt and required to pay $10,000 a day plus attorney's fees.
They still didn't appoint us.
And so they appealed it to the appeals court where we just lost last Friday and it overturned the lower court's ruling, overturned the contempt, the contempt of court of $10,000 a day plus attorney's fees.
So, the next step, the only options we have are to appeal this to the Georgia Supreme Court and hopefully, while we're still in this legislative session, change the law so this never happens again.
And we need, I mean, what it really comes down to is we need equal representation, both Democrats and Republicans across the state in all the counties.
So, that way there is a diverse viewpoint.
There are checks and balances at each one of these boards.
That's really what's important.
But essentially, they don't like who I am.
So, they blocked me the first time in the history of Fulton County that a Republican had been blocked.
So, that's got to be turned over.
I mean, it just, it's just unbelievable.
Yeah, it's common sense, right?
Have a bipartisan panel here to decide these things.
But there's a pretty crazy sound bite here that we have from Dana Barrett, who is running for Secretary of State and is on the Fulton County Board of Commissioners.
She referred to you, Jason, as an election denier.
We've all heard that one before.
Let's go ahead and take a listen to what she had to say.
And Mark, I'll get your thoughts on the other side.
I could not be any more excited right now to share the breaking news that the Georgia Court of Appeals has overturned the lower courts in their ruling that said we had to see election deniers on our board of registration and elections in Fulton County.
This is what it looks like when we fight back.
We need people fighting back in every corner against this election denial, election takeover spaghetti that Trump and the DOJ and the state elections board and all of them are throwing at us.
When we fight back, we win.
And that's exactly what happened.
The Court of Appeals overturned the lower court's ruling saying the Fulton County Board of Commissioners was well within our rights to vote no on appointing two election deniers to our board.
The contempt charges, the fines, the threats of jail, all of it gone, all of it wrong.
Now, of course, they can appeal to the Georgia State Supreme Court, but let's hope the Supreme Court holds if they decide to do that.
For right now, we won, and it feels great.
This is what we need.
We need people who are going to care more about free, fair, secure elections than they are about controlling the outcome of the vote.
That's what this country needs.
That's what Fulton County needs.
And I could not be more excited.
I mean, that's horrifying to me, Mark.
I know you're a cybersecurity guy.
You're an election integrity guy.
How horrifying is it that somebody running for Secretary of State is literally referring to our friend Jason Frazier, who does phenomenal work as an election denier?
Your reaction.
Well, I mean, he has denied a lot of elections.
So anyone that anytime.
I mean, the people that are actually election deniers are those that are denying elections.
And those that are denying elections are the people that are keeping control and have stolen the will of the American people.
They are denying us an election.
They're the election deniers.
And so I think it's absolutely disgusting.
We have to have accurate, transparent, verifiable elections, or we have no country.
And so anyone, this is in my book.
Anyone that is blocking transparent, verifiable elections run by the people who the elections belong to is an enemy of mine.
And people.
So it's crazy, though, that we have people like her, you know, calling him an election denier when Fulton County is trying to stop him from a legitimate appointment to be on that board.
You also have the Fulton County election warehouse just got raided.
You've had judge unsealed ballots in Fulton County ordering them to hand them over.
And Fulton County has thwarted those efforts time and time again.
Yet you like, it just, it blows my mind that not only are people like her so corrupt in my opinion, because I've closely followed what's been going on in Georgia, but that the media, the local media there in Georgia. seems to elevate people like her that are so disingenuous and not accurately reporting what Georgia's state of elections are really looking like, while people like yourself and Jason sort of get swept under the rug.
So it's like the media seems to be complicit in all of this.
So one of my questions, maybe I'll pose this to you, Jason, is what local media in Georgia is accurately reporting on all of these things that other people watching can go and get plugged into?
I mean, we do have smaller media groups.
The Georgia Record is one.
We've got War Room Georgia.
There are a handful of smaller groups.
But as far as mainstream media, I mean, we've got the AJC, which is pretty much a small town CNN.
And they like to call us election deniers and really don't speak the truth.
So there's just, you know, I don't think there's any major media covering any of this.
What do you think, Mark?
Yeah.
Well, you know, the only people that would use the phrase election denier are people that are too stupid to understand what they're even saying.
Or there are people that are purposely trying to deceive others.
That's it.
It's one or the other.
So you're either an idiot or you're complicit if you're using election denier as a phrase, you know, other than joking like I do.
It's absolutely, it is what it is.
I mean, the people are showing us who they are right now.
It's that simple.
And all we're fighting for, this is so simple.
We just want to count our dots, right?
We want to count our dots, add the dots up, and whoever has the most dots wins.
That's it.
Look at the machine against the people that are blocking us from counting our own dots.
It's as clear as day to me.
Yeah.
And there's no reason to hide the dots.
Yeah, we actually have a sound bite from you, Mark, testifying recently.
So we're going to go ahead and play that in its entirety because it was very well done.
And apparently, what was it?
The state cut out 10 seconds from that, that testimony?
Who is it that actually about that?
So I'm going to be dropping some stuff here over the next day that's going to, this roller coaster is going to be very interesting.
Originally, it looked like the state had cut out 10 seconds or so of my testimony.
And then I heard some chatter about it being a glitch.
It was a streaming glitch.
And there's, you know, lots of connection during that exact, you know, group of 10 seconds or so.
I thought, okay, well, you know, I did some tests and forensic tests and I was able to reproduce a connection drop that resulted in the same type of artifact in the recording.
However, someone just dropped one of the original files and I have the other original file.
And it turns out there's two different versions of the cut audio.
One is a little bit bigger of a cut than the other.
So someone's got some screening to do, as Lucy would say.
Yeah, well, let's go ahead and take a listen to the video you posted.
And it also includes a portion that was cut.
So take a listen.
Mr. Cook, I recognize you.
I appreciate it.
My name is Mark Cook.
I'm an election cybersecurity subject matter expert in threat assessment and common sense mitigation.
I've been working on elections solid non-stop for about six years now.
I have been working in the IT industry for 40 years.
I have intrinsic knowledge that would be really important for people to understand.
I have evidence right here that I was hoping to show you that can show there are absolutely, I know you guys have heard this, but I've got the proof right here: back doors built in to electronic voting systems that allow flipping changing of votes.
So the testing labs.
Wow.
I can't believe they did that.
Did you hear that?
Watch it again and pay attention to the time in the upper right corner that allow flipping changing of votes.
So the testing labs.
Can you believe that?
So much for government transparency, I guess.
Well, how about we just put that audio right back where they clipped it out so everyone can hear it?
Enjoy.
That allow flipping, changing of votes.
Infiltrating the system, all built in, set up in a way that makes it easy and untraceable.
I can demonstrate this to you even while I'm still here in this building.
I'm happy to do it.
So the testing labs all miss this.
Then they're blindly certified.
And then we're told it's shoved down our throats that everything is safe and secure.
It's absolutely not.
We're being lied to from the very top.
The whole thing is built on a pyramid of lies.
And we have to stop living these lies.
I will educate you.
I can show you guys the problems.
No issue.
I'm happy to do so.
But we have to approach this in a common sense form here.
We have to be smart about what we're doing.
If we're going to make a change, we need to make a change that's actually going to solve the problem and not kick the can down the road.
And again, take the control of elections away from where elections belong, which is in the people's hands.
And this is not complicated to solve.
We're literally filling dots out on paper.
We're counting the dots, adding the dots up, and whoever has the most dots wins.
That's the entire scope of our elections.
So having to use computerized systems to count dots and add the dots up is the most ridiculous waste of money and theft of the very essence of us being American citizens and having a voice that I've ever seen in my life.
So thank you all very much.
I appreciate it.
Thanks, Mr. Cook.
And if I may, you know, the members of the committee, I'd recommend that maybe you could send it out, whatever evidence that you have.
I'm happy to.
I'm here for today and tomorrow.
Election Systems Are Exploitable00:06:31
I'm happy to sit down with anyone and show you firsthand so you can see with your own eyes.
Wonderful.
Thank you, man.
Thank you, guys.
I appreciate it.
Infiltrating the system, all built in, set up in a way that makes it easy.
So now, I got to ask you, Mark, did anybody take you up on that offer to have you demonstrate to them how you could manipulate the machines or the votes?
Yes, they did.
And I won't name who it is.
But yes, there were some people I did.
I was there a while.
And I went back again for some more.
So, yeah, there's some people that are finally paying attention.
I really, when the American people see what's going on, they finally understand it.
Because there's so much misinformation, disinformation out there.
And that was by design.
That was by the bad actors that have been doing all this.
They had to cloud the truth so people didn't know what to believe.
That's why they throw so much garbage out at us.
And pretty soon, people just shut down and they don't want to hear it.
And they just lay, you know, they automatically label everyone an election denier, and that's it.
And then end the story.
That was a brilliant move on the part of the bad guys.
And so, what we've got to do, and what I'm trying to do, is break through that.
That's why I travel around in my trailer, in my truck, and I go county by county, state by state, and I bring this information directly to people, not over a Zoom, but sitting right next to them, citizen to citizen, not citizen to legislator, or citizen to sheriff, or citizen to commissioner, citizen to citizen.
Let's just level.
Let me show you what I experienced.
Let me show you what I know.
Let me show you the evidence that you can see with your own eyes.
And once you see it with your own eyes, it's game over.
And then, of course, the whole we can't count our own dots.
You know, we can't count our own ballots.
It's impossible.
Give me a break.
You sit in a legislator down and you sit them in front of a tally sheet and ballots, and they sit there and spend 10 minutes and count ballots and they get the totals.
All of a sudden, you got a believer.
Because when you sit down and do it, we're literally counting dots and adding the dots up.
How on earth are 350 million people not capable of adding dots?
They've got everyone believing, just like there's election deniers.
They got people believing, oh, we can't possibly count our own dots.
We are too much of peasants to count dots.
Yeah, I mean, it's absurd.
I'm going to break the absurdity.
Well, I sure hope so.
So is what you were demonstrating.
So I'm a little confused about like what it is that you are demonstrating.
Like, what was it that you said?
So what I can show is that.
So, well, two things.
One, I can demonstrate the problem we've got, which is the fact that we cannot trust these electronic voting machines.
And really, even worse than that, not even trusting the machines.
You can't trust the people that created the machines because the people that created the machines have lied to us.
And I have the evidence that they've lied to us.
I also have evidence that's easy for anyone to see.
And anyone that has one of these machines can confirm it themselves on their own machines.
You don't have to look at my demo.
But, you know, God bless Tina Peters, because without Tina Peters taking this forensic backup, we the people, the peasants, would never have been able to look at this information, to see what's inside these black box voting machines.
And luckily, myself, being a peasant, but I'm an IT peasant, but I'm still a peasant.
I got to look inside the machine and I know what they're doing.
And I know the cover-up.
I see the back doors.
There's multiple back doors that let you flip the votes and change any aspect of the election.
You can rename candidates.
You can swap candidates out.
You can change votes.
You can move votes from one candidate to another.
You can do all kinds of things.
You can grab the encryption keys that all the flash drives use, you know, from the tabulators as they're walking the flash drives over and they say to everyone, oh, it's air gap.
Don't worry.
It's safe and secure.
It's a freaking joke.
There are so many different ways for someone that knows what they're doing to manipulate parts of the election or someone to set something up like a flash drive that they hand to someone.
And the person doesn't have, the person that's got the flash drive and just plugging the flash drive in, they don't have to be an expert.
They don't even have to use a computer.
As long as they can plug the darn flash drive in, they can flip elections.
These systems are set up to allow that.
And they're set up also not to trace it.
So if you manipulate elections using these back doors, they don't log the manipulation.
I mean, you'd have to be an idiot to set something up like that.
If this is supposed to be part of our national critical infrastructure, you know, you're either an idiot or you're complicit again.
And do you really think that we've got idiots creating voting systems that control the largest nation in the world?
I mean, come on, obviously not.
We have all these government organizations that all tell the citizens everything is safe and secure and we have this testing and that testing and it's certified and all this.
When at the end, it's all a facade.
The lies are still there.
All the cover-up still doesn't get rid of lies.
It's lipstick on a pig.
And that's one thing I show people.
And then the other thing I show them is, listen, you got a solution.
Count our own dots.
And here's how easy it is to count dots, track the dots, and add the dots up.
So, it's a twofold that I can demonstrate easily.
And I can go online.
I mean, I could show people 20 hours worth of stuff, but sometimes I only have a small period of time where I've got to break that shell so they actually understand what I'm trying to communicate to them and then show them how stupid, simple the solution is.
Well, so I want to ask you one more question here on the Tina Peters thing, right?
So, you have Tina Peters who blew the whistle with what was going on in her state.
You've got Georgia, Georgia's voting machines.
You had Alec Halderman, Professor Halderman, that demonstrated in Curling v. Raffensperger that the machines were exploitable.
And you have yourself coming on here saying the machines are exploitable.
You have all of these people all across the country, different states.
What have the courts, if anything, done to address this?
Because the Dominion democracy suite that was used in Georgia, I believe, was used in multiple other states.
So, when Alec Halderman was demonstrating its exploitable problems, that didn't just impact Georgia, it impacted other states.
Are there not any lawsuits or any judges anywhere in the country that are like these machines have got it that have got to go?
Where do we stand on the legal aspect of this in terms of the fight in the courts?
Taking The Nation Back00:03:24
Welcome to the party.
It's captured.
Our nation's captured.
The judges are captured.
You know, blackmail, bribery, threats-um, you name it, they're captured.
Everything's captured, but that doesn't mean we've lost.
We literally, we have 350 million of us, and there's like a thousand of them.
I mean, we seriously, people have to wake up.
People have to say, you know what?
It's time to be courageous.
It's time to take our country back.
We can all do it.
And we're going to do it, by the way.
Just so you know, we're taking this nation back.
We're taking it back for our children and our grandchildren.
And we are not going to let a thousand people destroy a nation of 350 million.
Not going to happen.
We're taking it back.
We just have to break through this.
We've got to educate our fellow citizens so they understand what the problem is.
Because if people don't know what the problem is, they're not going to fight for it.
And they have to know what the problem is.
And they also have to know that we can win.
And all we have to do is count our own dots.
If we count our own dots and we have an election based on that result, everything changes immediately in one election.
Everything will start to change.
It only takes us two or three elections, and we can clean this entire thing up.
Now, some people, you know, probably gonna have to go kicking and screaming, but that's okay.
Yeah, I'll yank on them.
That's fine.
I have no problem with that.
I mean, it is what it is.
And we have to be honest with each other.
We've got to be honest with ourselves personally.
We have a duty.
We have a duty to our younger generation.
We have a duty to our children.
We have a duty to our grandchildren.
We have to leave them something that we were handed, which is liberty, right?
We cannot, we were asleep at the wheel.
Most all of us were asleep at the wheel.
We didn't know this was going on underneath our noses.
The people that were doing this are very evil and they were very smart.
They're very sophisticated and they have unlimited resources and they fooled us all for some time.
And then we started to wake up.
I mean, 2020 was kind of obvious when they stole that one.
And they thought they were going to be able to control us, but look at you.
Look at Jason.
The COVID pandemic really opened a lot of people's eyes up because you had all those consent decrees and the drop boxes.
And I think that's where the person that, you know, unlike Jason, that wasn't maybe already involved in the election integrity space and yourself too.
The outsiders were like, man, drop boxes and mass mailing out of ballots.
That sounds like it could be a recipe for disaster.
And I think a lot more people started to critically look, right?
And then, also, you know, when we had 2020 and you could go around and drive through states and you'd see the signs, and I don't know about you, but I barely saw any for Joe Biden.
It was overwhelmingly Trump.
And then all of a sudden, like the results didn't match what like your eyes would see in the community and at restaurants and at neighborhoods, and you're like, something feels off here.
And then when you actually do deep dive into the elections, when you do the FOIA requests, when you look at, you know, were these machines certified?
When you look at the back doors, you know, from your perspective, Mark or Jason, when you look at the voter rolls and you see there's double voting, non-citizens voting, it's like then you're like, wow, there really was a problem.
And it's just sort of, you know, it's been that sort of uphill climb for a lot of Americans, really opening their eyes to some of these problems that, you know, I think pre-pandemic, most people probably didn't know existed.
Citizens Getting Screwed In Fulton00:07:04
Like you said, we were blind at the wheel.
But here we are.
And I heard somebody say the other day, like you move a mountain one grain of sand at a time, right?
So this is what we're doing with every bill, with every testimony, with every conversation that you and I are having.
We're waking up more people and we're helping do our part to move that mountain.
But Jason, I want to get your take here on this next tweet that we're going to put here up on the screen that Garland shared.
Garland's right now, I think, over at the legislative offices doing some stuff down there.
But he said, Georgia House is poised to pass a new unsecure voting system bill.
So give us the backdrop here, Jason.
What is this bill?
And is it expected to pass?
I hope not, but we haven't had a lot of good bills coming out of the legislature lately in Georgia.
Essentially, a couple of years ago, a bill passed that said we need to get rid of the QR code.
That's that little box that the dominion system reads that and interprets what you picked for your candidates.
And we passed a bill saying, okay, you can't read the QR code.
It has to be human readable.
I can't read a 2D barcode.
I don't think many people can.
So you've got to get rid of that and read the text.
And that would be one stamp, one step closer to transparency.
Well, our Secretary of State just didn't get around to implementing a new system.
So now, even though we had two years to do this, we're out of time.
So we just can't do it.
And so the legislature is looking like they're going to allow them to kick the can down the road for a couple more years.
Well, we passed a law two years ago.
You said you didn't have time to do it right away.
It's going to take a couple of years to do it.
Just because you didn't do it doesn't mean you get more time.
I mean, when I was in college, when I was in high school, if I didn't do a test or do an assignment, the teacher didn't say, oh, well, you know, you got two more weeks.
That's just not how it works in the real world, but that's how it works in Georgia.
So I'm hoping, hoping somebody will hold the line.
And if they allow the law to continue as it is, the only real answer is handmarked, hand-counted paper ballots.
And that is really what we want.
I mean, the only way we can be transparent is if people fill out the bubbles, fill out the little dots, and people count those little dots at the precinct, not at the warehouse, not once all of those ballots get piled together, get put in a car, driven an hour away, and then opened back up.
They need to be counted at the precinct on election night.
The more, the less movement there is from the time a ballot is cast to when it was counted, the better odds are that there's less fraud.
And if you get bipartisan teams counting the dots, I mean, I love the way Mark describes it.
I mean, anybody can count the dots.
It's not hard.
And a lot of people want to do this.
Whereas the machines, they have to have technical experts come in there, set them up.
They call them pull techs because it is so complicated.
They have designed this system to be so complicated that the average person can't fully understand how ballots occur from start to finish.
What is the entire process?
And if you just have people filling out little bubbles and then you count the bubbles, it is simple.
It is transparent.
You can have bipartisan teams counting them.
So that way, both the Democrats and the Republicans feel like their vote counts.
When Stacey Abrams says, well, her election was stolen, you know, she would have confidence that either she won or lost because bipartisan teams at every precinct would be counting the dots.
Same with Donald Trump, whatever he lost.
If he did lose, we would have confidence.
But when Fulton County says, you know what, Donald Trump lost and you can't see the ballots, we're going to lock them up.
We're going to keep them in the warehouse.
We're going to say we don't have room for them and we better shred them.
Oh, no, the FBI took them.
So we need them back so we can shred them.
That doesn't seem like an honest way to run an election.
If it is clean, say, please talk about it.
That's crazy.
We'll put cameras up and we'll all count them together.
That's what I would do if it was a clean election and just let everyone see the truth.
They don't want us to see the truth and there has to be a reason why.
Yeah.
I mean, it's crazy that taxpayers are, you know, we're expected to pay for our elections.
And particularly in Georgia, you're paying for your elections, but then you're also paying for Fulton County to hire Georgia's top criminal defense lawyers to represent them in the civil suits so that they don't have to actually show you the ballots that you paid for.
So it's like Georgia citizens in particular are getting royally screwed down there in Fulton County.
And then they're also paying, right?
Their taxpayers, your taxpayers, Jason, are literally paying for Fulton County to keep you off of the Fulton County Board of Registration and elections.
And if you want transparency, you should want both Republicans and Democrats looking at it.
So that way you can say, hey, everything is fine.
Everybody's looking at it.
We've got cameras everywhere.
Everyone should be involved, but they don't want everybody involved.
And there's only one reason you don't want the other side involved.
Well, it's not even that.
It's not just that.
It's, you know, a lot of people want to say it's, oh, it's Republicans.
It's Republicans wanting all this election integrity.
Democrats, I got a little something for you.
You're getting screwed too.
The people you're voting for are most likely not getting selected.
Okay.
Other people, those that the powers that be want in power, they're putting them in power contrary to how you vote.
So you're losing it too.
You just don't realize it.
We're all getting screwed.
Every one of us is getting screwed because other people are in control of that system.
And I feel bad for our election officials, the good ones, the honest ones, the dishonest ones, not so much.
But the honest ones, I feel bad for because this system also pushes them out, right?
They're supposed to be in charge of conducting the election or assisting the conduction of the election, but they're not able to even do it.
They don't even understand how this thing works.
They're set up to fail.
And they got to go to their county clerks association, you know, to ask questions and figure out how to do all this.
And the county clerks association kind of manages and controls everything.
I don't know if you know this, but the largest county in Colorado, we just found out this morning after my plane landed, the largest county in Colorado, that clerk just left the county clerks association of the state.
The largest county in Colorado just dipped on the county clerks association and has gone rogue now and taken his county out of that, which might mean that he's a good, honest person that finally saw the light and said he had to disconnect from all of them.
God bless him.
Praying for them, and uh, we'll find out more tomorrow.
Healthcare Should Work This Way00:02:00
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Yeah, we'll definitely have to have you back on.
Um, guys, hang tight.
We're going to take a quick commercial break, but I have a few other stories I want to get to when we come back.
So we'll be right back.
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Joining me once again from Georgia, Jason Frazier and Mark Cook.
Thank you both for joining me.
Mark, I wanted to ask you another question here about what is the latest happening with Tina Peters.
I know it's something that we've talked about quite a bit here on Lindell TV.
I heard like recently that there was some potential for the governor there in Colorado to commute her sentence.
I mean, have you been following that closely?
What's your involvement with the case?
And what can you tell us regarding Tina Peters?
I did hear that the governor had made a statement that it seems like she may have not been treated fairly and that he was considering commuting her sentence.
I really, you know, I'm praying for Jared, and I hope that he hope somehow God touches his heart in some way and gets him to realize what he's doing to this soul.
He's basically taking a 70-year-old woman at the end of, you know, toward the end of her life.
We don't have a whole lot of years left at 70.
You know, that's the kind of time where we want to kind of enjoy the last part of that.
And he has put her in a cage.
He's put the soul that didn't do anything wrong in a cage.
And the only thing she did was threaten to expose the big lie, which is that our elections are real.
And she threatened to blow up their illusion.
And they had, you know, they're putting her away for it.
Punishing her, and it's not just to punish her, but really what they're doing.
And if you watch the sentencing, if you guys haven't seen the sentencing, you please need to watch it.
Go to handcountroadshow.org, go to get educated, go down to Colorado, and then Tina Peters, and you can watch her sentencing.
And you see, the judge even says while he's sentencing her that he's sentencing her to scare, as an example, to scare every other election official, every other clerk from daring to do the same thing.
So basically, they are trying to destroy this woman to scare other people.
How disgusting is that?
That is something demons do.
And I hope that Jared is not a demon.
I really do.
I hope he decides to do the right thing.
I hope, you know, if that's what he wants his legacy to be, he wants to go through life just causing destruction and that's it.
And that's what he wants to be known for.
Well, I guess he can keep on doing what he's doing because that's what he's going to be known for.
But if he wants to, you know, end his life, I'm not saying his life, if he wants to go through his life, you know, he gets to the end, if he wants to be realized for something other than destroying, he has an opportunity to do that.
And every day, anyone can choose that they want to go a different direction.
When he wakes up tomorrow, he could decide he wants to go in a totally different direction with his life and he could take it in that different direction.
He has every opportunity to do it.
And every opportunity he doesn't do it only makes things worse.
Yeah.
No, very good point.
And, you know, we are a group of Christians here over at Lindell TV.
And no matter what, he decides he is going to face judgment someday, as we all are.
And this is the inevitable reality that this life we're living right now is only temporary.
Even if Tina Peters spends the rest of her days behind bars, God will redeem her at the end of this life and give her eternal life in heaven.
But the people that are the demons that put her there, they may not be able to say the same thing.
And their fate is going to be far worse than Tina Peters if they don't get right with God in this life.
And so, again, we should pray for him.
We should pray for every single member of Congress.
We should pray for every single criminal down there in Fulton County that they repent of their sins and get right with God.
Because I think that's the most important thing in all of this is that we're in spiritual, a spiritual battle here.
It's spiritual warfare, right?
Like what possesses people to go after power and money and all the things the people right there in Fulton County are after, right?
It's how much money can I make from committing these crimes or how much power and influence can I have by joining these criminals and aligning with them.
And at the end of the day, they're sacrificing their own soul for these short-term gains in this life.
And we should be praying for everyone from Fonnie Willis to Brad Ravensburger.
Unfortunately, they're going to do what they're going to do.
And our job is just to boldly proclaim the truth as we've been doing, you know, on our end.
But, you know, again, keep everybody in your prayers.
And I hope and pray we ask everyone watching to pray for Tina Peters too.
Because being behind bars, that's not an easy mental feat to do prison time like that.
And, you know, we've heard that there's been some abuse towards her from within those prison walls.
Constant abuse.
So just keep Tina wrapped in prayers.
And, you know, we will carry the torch from outside of those prison walls and do our part.
So, Jason, let's, you know, go back to you and we'll kind of move over to obviously the machines are one problem.
We got to get back to the counting of physical ballots.
It really is so simple, just like Mark said.
It's just counting dots.
We don't need all these fancy machines to count dots.
Absurd.
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Yeah.
Sure.
Yeah.
No worries.
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So, Jason, so the voter rolls is the other issue here, right?
So we have, okay, if we get away from the machines and we switch back to hand marked paper ballots.
The second part that we have to get in order is the cleaning of the voter rolls.
And so why don't you, for people that maybe they're new here and just explain the way voter rolls work and then highlight some of the concerns that everybody all across the country should know about.
Yeah.
So the way it should work is when you move to a state, you register to vote there and then your old state, you should be removed from.
So a lot of people, I think the numbers are about 10% of America moves every year.
So you've got a lot of people moving into Georgia and out of Georgia or across the country.
So you should only have one registration per person nationwide.
And that's part of why Harmet Dylan wants all the voter rolls from every state across the country.
So one, she can check to see if you're a citizen and two, make sure you're only registered once.
And it's a lot more than just are you registered one time in one state?
But here in Georgia, whenever I first started looking into this, I think it was about three, four years ago now, I found a little over 10,000 people just in Fulton County that were registered more than one time.
So those ones should have been easy for the county to identify.
If you've got driver's license number, social security number, full state or full date of birth, which they've got that access, I didn't have that.
I simply sorted the voter roll by address and looked at names.
And there were a lot of slight variations in names.
You might have Robert and Bob with the same year of birth, the same address, probably the same guy, and thousands and thousands more.
So if you've got more than one ID, you can vote more than once in the same election.
So that's where the risk is.
And people like to say, oh, that's conspiracy theory.
That could never happen.
Well, I've identified people that had multiple unique IDs and voted multiple times in the same election.
Some of them even admitted to it.
Now, in their defense, the one guy at the state board said, well, yeah, I had a mail-in ballot.
I turned it in and then I went and voted.
He went and voted in person.
But his defense, if the system allowed him to vote in person, he would have been standing there.
I would have been standing there thinking, well, I guess they didn't get my mail-in ballot.
I better cast a vote so that way I can make sure it gets counted.
Most people, unless you're me or listen to this show, would not realize thousands of people are registered more than once.
Thus, he voted twice unknowingly.
So the system is just not designed today to where you can have clean elections.
And if there's a nefarious person, they could be voting everybody's extra ID.
That would be easy to do.
If I can find 10,000 people registered more than once, other people could too.
They could just turn in a mail-in ballot for those extra IDs.
So that's a risk.
But then these multiple state movers, there are tens of thousands of people.
I found 30,000 people at one time that had moved from Georgia to Florida, registered to vote in Florida, and were still on the voter rolls in Georgia at the same time.
And one of those guys showed credit of voting in Florida and Georgia in November 2024.
And we're going to be hearing that case at the state board of elections meeting next month.
And I don't know if this individual himself did that or if maybe somebody voted for him, but hopefully we'll get to the bottom of it.
Either way, it says, why are you leaving people on the voter rolls in multiple states that allows risk?
I think the only real way to do it is to have one day elections in person at the, you know, fill in the bubbles yourself and have it counted right there.
So that way you couldn't vote in Florida and drive to Georgia and vote again.
It'd be very difficult and it would greatly reduce the fraud nationwide.
I mean, I can't live in Chicago and say I'm a Georgia resident, mail in a ballot, and then go vote in Chicago.
That's much more difficult to do.
So we need to get it back to election day here.
Yeah, let me let me get you guys' take on this, right?
Because I remember when I was working with True the Vote and we would go around and in real time, we had this feature on the truthevote.org page where you could go and click on any state you've ever lived and it would bring you right to that state.
You punch your name in and you find out if you're still on their voter rolls.
And in real time, people would be like, oh my God, like I haven't lived in this state in like 10 years.
Why am I still on their voter rolls?
And there's this sort of like naive mentality that like, if you move out of state, you're automatically removed from the roles in the state you used to live, but that's not the case.
And so there's so many of us that can be on the, I mean, you could literally be on the voter rolls in all 50 states.
If you just went from state to state and state and you lived there one year for every 50 years and you just registered in each one and they never claimed them, you could literally be on the ballot in all 50 states.
And so my question for you guys is, is there any need for voter rolls at all?
Like if we went back to like, let's just obliterate all voter rolls entirely and just get rid of them and you show up on election day with your vote with just your voter ID.
Is there any devil's advocate argument to where maybe voter rolls are a good thing for election integrity?
Okay, that's what I'm kind of wondering.
What is it, Mark?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So I know that some people think, you know, getting rid of voter rolls solves the problem.
And just because you have a problem with something doesn't mean getting rid of it fixes the problem.
That's not the right solution because when you get rid of voter rolls, you now introduce a new problem.
And that problem is you slow down election day tremendously and you don't afford yourself the ability to actually check all these registered voters.
So the whole point of having voter rolls is to be able to spread out voter registration, which is, it should be a long process.
It's not supposed to be long, but let me put it this way.
It's not supposed to be super quick.
It's supposed to be correct.
And you're supposed to give your county officials time to make sure you're eligible to be registered to vote.
And that time to ensure that you're eligible to register to vote is not something we can push off on people on election day.
So what we need to do is we let people register to vote for two years, go to the county, and the county can spend their time to do their due diligence to ensure that that person does indeed live there and should be eligible to register to vote.
And then they get registered to vote.
That time, that process, or it may take five or 10 minutes.
So you can't do that five or 10 minutes per person at the precincts.
Then you'd have to train everyone at the precinct of how to do this.
You'd have to give them some central system that they can control.
It'd be a disaster.
So if you end up getting rid of voter registration and you just want to let people who gets to vote, then you have a big problem also because now people can just drive from county to county and they can vote.
They could spend all day driving around.
And in one day, how many counties can you hit in a day?
Depending on the density of your counties, you might be able to vote like 20 times if you do something like that.
So you have to have voter registration.
We just have to have voter registration that doesn't open up a massive abuse vector in the system.
And it's really easy to do.
I wrote the whole thing up, very simple bullet points.
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So go to the progressive election platform.
It lists it out bullet point by bullet point.
And it breaks it down how we do voter registration, how we do validation, how we do the tabulation, the reporting, and the auditing.
Very simple, common sense.
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Because if it's so complex, if the mitigations are so complex, the average person doesn't understand them, then complexity, you actually create a more insecure system.
Complexity breeds insecurity due to the obfuscation because people don't understand the complexity.
So you have to keep it simple and transparent, and it's easy to solve this.
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Yeah.
No, well said.
Fix Elections At Local Level00:10:23
And I think it's funny, like the simpler, the better when it comes to this stuff, because when I think of the election workers that I met in Georgia, particularly, a lot of them from those small counties, God bless my mother, but they're like her to where like they need a grandkid's help to check their Facebook messages, right?
Like they can't figure out how to like, you know, check notifications on a social media app.
So like, but they're expected to fully understand the inner workings of the Dominion Democracy, you know, suite 5.5 and the scanner and the ballot marking devices and how they all integrate.
I'm like, these are people that literally can't check their messages on social media without help.
And this is where those vulnerabilities get exploited.
So the simpler we can make our decision.
Yeah, of course, 110,000%.
And what they don't know will actually hurt our country.
And so we have to get back to the basics.
And, you know, Jason, you've done a great job over the years of challenging ineligible records on Georgia's voter rolls, right?
People that are not supposed to be there.
I know there was the Mark Elias lawsuit against True the Vote where they were trying to make it considered voter intimidation to challenge records and things of that nature.
Is there still currently, as we head into midterms, are people still challenging ineligible records on those roles in spite of this ongoing litigation?
We would like to, but right now the problem is big counties like Fulton and a few others, they're not, they have raised the bar so high to where it is almost impossible to be successful in a challenge.
I mean, I started out challenging people, for example, a guy named No Name, No Name, and a guy named Missing Missing.
That was literally their name on the voter rolls.
But right now, Fulton County has raised the bar.
And one of the people that I've mentioned earlier that filed a permanent change of address from Georgia to Florida, registered to vote in Florida, had voted in Florida twice, and then voted.
The data shows he voted in November 2024 in Florida and then came back up here and voted in person in Fulton County.
You know, that guy was challenged here in Fulton County and Fulton County refused to take him off the voter roll.
So they enabled this.
And again, I don't know if the guy did it or if somebody voted for him.
But the deal is, if we can't challenge somebody's right to vote that moved out of state and has been voting out of state, how can we win?
So the law needs change.
There needs to be penalties.
I'm challenging his ability to vote twice.
So I think only his record in Georgia.
I want him to be able to vote in Florida if that's where he lives.
I just don't want him to be able to vote in all the states.
I mean, if I moved around, like you'd mentioned, and I went on a road trip, I could literally vote in all 50 states.
It might have to be more than a road trip to get a couple of them, but I literally could do that.
And I think with my name on the voter rolls in all 50 states, they might do something about it.
But with some people, they would absolutely let it happen.
And that's the biggest problem.
And another thing Mark touched on is why we need the voter rolls.
I grew up near Chicago.
Chicago is a very blue area.
At least that's what the data shows.
I could easily, if I was a Chicago guy, drive over to Indiana, which is a red state, and know I could affect that state a lot more than I could in Chicago.
Same could happen in Georgia.
If I'm in Fulton County and I know I'm going to win all the down ballot, I could just drive to one of the more rural counties and vote there.
So that's why it's important to have that voter roll to check everything, make sure you live in that county, in that city, and you're voting for the right people and have a federal oversight to make sure you're not registered in all the states or multiple times in one state.
So I want it to be owned by the counties, but have a check to make sure you are a citizen and you're only registered once.
I think that's the best way to do it.
So how impactful is the federal government?
I know President Trump obviously has been pushing for election integrity.
He's trying to get things like the SAVE Act passed.
Hermit's trying to get access to the voter rolls.
I guess it's like a two-pronged question.
One, do you think the SAVE Act is going to make a difference at the local level?
And two, how effective has Hermit been at getting those voter rolls?
And once she gets them, does the federal government have any legal authority to get names removed at that point, right?
Even if you have the roles and you're like, here's all these names that aren't there.
Are they going to be any more effective at getting Brad Raffensperger to do his job than you and I, Jason?
I mean, I would hope they would, at least in federal elections, I would think the federal government could say, hey, you can only vote one time in a federal election.
They can definitely check to see if you're a citizen very quickly and try to get the states to take them off.
But I think they need to have penalties for these states that don't take them off.
I don't know if that's the only solution they would have.
I'm not an expert in that area.
But I think Brad Raffensberger absolutely needs a penalty if there are illegals on the voter rolls or if people are registered more than once within the state across the country.
You've just got to have, you got to have measurements.
You've got to analyze it.
You've got to check to see, you know, is Georgia the cleanest voter rolls in the country that Brad Raffensperger always says, or are they the worst?
And if they're the worst, then try to improve upon it.
I don't think we have the cleanest voter rolls in the country based on what I've seen.
Yeah.
All right, Mark, how about you like SAVE Act?
Are you following the SAVE Act?
Do you think passing that legislation would make a difference at the state level?
Well, it'll help.
It's not going to solve the problem.
It alone is not going to save America.
It's an important step, though.
And we need to take every important step we can to do that.
But we don't want to think one step is going to fix this whole problem.
That's why I put the PEP solution together.
The pep is the whole thing.
It's what we must employ to fix all this.
And that doesn't mean if we don't get all of it that we're going to have a totally lost election.
It just means if we really truly want to fix the entire thing, that's our North Star.
That's where we need to get to as fast as possible.
If we can't get there right away, which obviously let's be realistic, we can't.
But let's do as much as we can anywhere we can to get as close to that as possible.
And if we just keep working that way, we will end up fixing our elections.
That's it.
And then some, you know, poor little no name, no name just may not be able to vote anymore.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Disenfranchised.
Sorry, disenfranchised.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Poor no name, poor no name.
Well, anyway, guys, we have a couple minutes here left.
I just want to use the last couple of minutes here.
Jason, we want to put your social media up here on the screen to encourage people to go follow the work that you're doing.
Final question for you, Jason.
If there was one thing, one piece of homework people watching can do to try to help move this needle and get our elections secure, what would it be?
Just get involved, work the elections, go to the Capitol, talk to your legislator.
I know that's more than one, but people just need to get off the couch and get involved.
That's the number one thing.
Turn off Netflix, get involved.
Amen.
Yeah.
Stop watching Netflix anyway.
They're run by demons.
Anyway, Mark, we're going to put your website up here on the screen too for people that want to get involved in what you're doing.
Why don't you just tell people real quick, final statement, you know, what you're doing here going across the country?
Sounds good.
So I'm traveling county by county, state by state, bringing this information directly to the people there, the citizens, the commissioners, sheriffs, legislators, everyone I possibly can, because we have an education problem here.
I'm trying to fix that education problem.
And I'm trying to bring any resources I can as one person as well.
And please, everyone, support people like Jason as well.
You guys have to do this at the local level, right?
Local action equals national results.
And that's absolutely true.
So I'm helping plant all those seeds as I go.
And also follow me on X at Patriot Mark Cook on X. I'm going to be dropping some really juicy stuff over the next weeks.
And God bless you, Jason.
You're a heck of an amazing American patriot.
And anyone out in Georgia, you better support this man.
Yes, absolutely.
We need Jasons and Marks all across the country.
So I applaud you both for, you know, getting up, getting out there, getting your hands dirty.
So thank you both for joining me today.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you guys.
Man, there's so many amazing patriots that will restore your faith in our country.
I know there's a lot of work to be done, but like I mentioned earlier, in order to move a mountain, we have to move one grain of sand at a time.
And between Jason Frazier, Mark Cook, Mike Lindell doing God's work on the election front.
I mean, this is an all-hands on deck type situation.
And there's nothing more important than our elections.
Your kids, your grandkids, their future is at stake.
Our country is at stake.
So get up, get involved in your local town elections, whether it's a ballot clerk, get involved, reach out to them, say, how do I have to get involved?
How do I get involved?
Reach out to your local GOP or political party, run for an office.
Whatever it is you do, get involved because if we don't have elections, we don't have a country.
And it's all hands on deck right now in America.
So thank you guys all for watching today.
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