The Lindell Report - Mike Lindell - The Mike Lindell Show - March 5th, 2026 Aired: 2026-03-05 Duration: 01:00:34 === Christy Noam Out (04:41) === [00:00:23] You ever see this guy with the pillows on fox? [00:00:28] My pillow guy, Mike Lindell. [00:00:32] He is the greatest. [00:00:35] My pillow guy. [00:00:38] Mike Lindell. [00:00:42] And he's been with us right from the beginning. [00:01:01] Welcome, everyone. [00:01:02] I'm Heather Mullins, guest hosting for Michael and Dell. [00:01:05] Today, we have some breaking news. [00:01:08] Just now, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam is out, and Trump has tapped Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen to replace her effective March 31st, 2026. [00:01:20] In a truth post that he put out today, he said, I am pleased to announce that the highly respected United States Senator from the great state of Oklahoma, Mark Wayne Mullen, will become the United States Secretary of Homeland Security effective March 31st. [00:01:34] The current Secretary, Christy Noam, who has served us well and has had numerous and spectacular results, especially on the border, will be moving to be special envoy for the Shield of the Americas, our new security initiative in the Western Hemisphere. [00:01:48] We are announcing on Saturday in Doral, Florida. [00:01:52] I thank Christy for her service at Homeland. [00:01:55] So this is some big news. [00:01:57] And joining me now is Anthony Aguero to unpack all of this. [00:02:01] He's done a lot of work covering the border, the cartel's movements down there. [00:02:05] Anthony, thank you for joining us. [00:02:08] Hi, thank you for having me, guys. [00:02:10] So what is your reaction to this? [00:02:12] This is sort of a big move. [00:02:14] Do you think it's really, you know, he's just repositioning her and the administration? [00:02:19] Or do you think this has to do with, you know, any sort of failure on her part? [00:02:24] What's your takeaway from this? [00:02:25] Because you've actually said the DHS has done well given, you know, what we had previously for the four years. [00:02:33] Absolutely. [00:02:34] I think this all just comes down to it looks like a misunderstanding. [00:02:39] President Trump was asked by Reuters if he signed off on a $220 million border security advertising campaign that mainly featured Christy Noam. [00:02:55] President Trump says he knew nothing about it. [00:02:58] Christy Noam in the hearing yesterday and today said that she actually indeed went through all of the proper protocols and yes, that President Trump in fact gave her permission to do that. [00:03:14] And it seems like people are having misunderstandings what it's looking like. [00:03:21] Christy Noam personally, I've got to meet, meet, I've met her once. [00:03:27] I don't know her personally. [00:03:30] I know that she definitely shook things up in DHS, working hard day in, day out. [00:03:36] So I have really nothing bad to say about her. [00:03:39] I hope the best for her, but it looks like a big misunderstanding right now with President Trump and her going out with this fallout. [00:03:46] Yeah, I'm curious to see this new role that she's going to be in that he talked about what that ends up looking like. [00:03:52] But I actually met Christy Noam years ago back when he was campaigning for the 2020 election. [00:03:58] She was going on tour with him and a few others with the big Trump bus and they were going around. [00:04:03] And I had a chance to meet with her and interview her because she was one of the only governors in America that actually didn't shut down her state at all, like not a single shutdown. [00:04:14] And when I interviewed her, I was like, you know, why did you decide to do that? [00:04:18] And to her credit, she said, you know, as a governor, the first thing I did when all this was happening was meet with constitutional law attorneys to find out what authority I even had as a governor in this situation. [00:04:30] And ultimately, she determined that everybody's job was essential so that, you know, everyone feeds their families. [00:04:37] So she just issued guidance, but never shut anything down. [00:04:40] So I've always admired her for that as a governor. [00:04:43] And, you know, like you just said, I mean, DHS has done a tremendous job securing the border when it was a disaster that was handed over to us from the Biden administration. [00:04:55] So interesting breaking news, like hot off the press. [00:05:00] I want to kind of switch gears, though, to another sort of conference taking place today. === Five Clock Entryway (09:11) === [00:05:05] We have the Counter Cartel Conference down there in Florida. [00:05:09] It's attended by Secretary Hegseth, White House Deputy Chief of Staff Steve Miller, General Donovan. [00:05:15] There's also international participants, military and security leaders from more than a dozen countries in the Western Hemisphere are there. [00:05:23] And the whole purpose, I guess, is to coordinate military intelligence against these cartels, treating major cartels as terrorist organizations, and just expanding regional cooperation in general. [00:05:35] You, Anthony, have been hearing some alarming stuff down there by the border in Arizona regarding cartel activity. [00:05:42] What can you tell us? [00:05:44] So I have it under a very Reliable source right now in Arizona that there are cartel members in the Aravaka sector currently walking across the U.S. southern border, all garbed up in green uniforms with AR-15 strapped to their backs. [00:06:07] Not only are they carrying these high-powered rifles, they are also carrying large packs of dope. [00:06:16] You've got to remember there is a lack of illegal aliens and human trafficking happening right now. [00:06:23] They are trying to replenish the losses that they are inquiring right now that President Trump has pretty much secured the southern border for the most part. [00:06:39] The cartels are extremely, extremely focused in pushing the dope right now. [00:06:45] As we are very well aware, human trafficking is a far more profitable business than drug trafficking. [00:06:55] You can only sell a drug once. [00:06:57] You can sell a child or a woman or a person thousands of times if you wanted to, or reuse that individual time and time again, whereas a drug is just once. [00:07:10] So there's a lot more money involved when we're talking about human element. [00:07:16] So to replenish and make up for their losses, they are now heavily, heavily pushing the dope coming in through Arizona. [00:07:26] There was just a bust, I believe, yesterday, in Nogales of 20 pounds, which is seriously nothing in a vehicle. [00:07:34] The left or mainstream media likes to proclaim that most drugs come in through the legal port of entries and in vehicles. [00:07:43] That is an utter lie. [00:07:45] Most of our drugs are coming in through tunnels and through open wide areas available for quick and easy pickup. [00:07:56] Currently, there are individuals out in Arizona bringing in large amounts of dope. [00:08:05] Now, last week in this sector as well, there was a human trafficker that began shooting at the military helicopter that was following him as he had illegal aliens in the back of the vehicle. [00:08:21] The guy got away. [00:08:23] A few days later, my contact ran into him in town. [00:08:28] He attempted to flee. [00:08:29] They finally were able to apprehend him. [00:08:32] But this is just one individual of a very, very dangerous, illicit group that is operating right there. [00:08:41] And they are nestled in there like a snake's nest. [00:08:47] They're all over there. [00:08:49] So we're going to be bringing you some reports coming up very, very soon from some of these areas because we need to be on our on top of this. [00:08:59] This is not something to be playing around with. [00:09:02] This is a national security threat to our country. [00:09:05] And in all the efforts that President Trump is bringing and putting forth, this needs to be set forth right. [00:09:15] front of his desk for him to see what is currently happening out there. [00:09:19] What is most surprising, Heather, and it is probably going to shock your audience, is something that I had already been kind of knowing, speculating. [00:09:30] I did not know, no, but I knew. [00:09:32] Well, it was just confirmed to me that in fact, our National Guard, our troops that President Trump deployed through the border, are actually leaving their post at five o'clock in the afternoon. [00:09:46] They get there from seven o'clock in the morning. [00:09:49] And by five o'clock in the afternoon, they are leaving their posts on the border, making it a free-for-all from five o'clock until seven o'clock the following morning for cartels and human traffickers to operate all of those routes uninterrupted, basically, for hours on end in the middle of the night. [00:10:13] Is that just a particular area of Arizona or is this like across the board? [00:10:20] Like, could there be a bad? [00:10:23] So there are multiple could there be like a bad unit within the guard that's sort of like doing this or is this like standard practice for guard that's deployed deployed at the border? [00:10:34] I don't want to misinform you or lie to your audience. [00:10:38] I would not do that. [00:10:39] I know for a fact that in this particular area in the Arizona sector, that is what's currently happening. [00:10:48] I will be heading out there to investigate and I will be out there for a good amount of time to be able to bring and extract all of the information that we need. [00:10:59] And then I will be moving on to other sectors where we do have the military also in operation to make sure or see their operating schedules, making sure that they're either operating through the night or if they're leaving at five o'clock in the afternoon. [00:11:16] But unfortunately, what is happening in Arizona, it must be stopped. [00:11:22] These individuals are coming across the border with high-powered weapons. [00:11:26] They're no longer caring about any law enforcement that they might encounter because if it's four or five men with AR-15s and you have one border patrol agent in a truck, he's outnumbered. [00:11:40] There's no manpower or firepower that's going to be able to get there in time to back him up. [00:11:47] So we need to hammer this story. [00:11:49] We need to bring it forth. [00:11:50] And that's what we're going to be doing here. [00:11:53] Yeah, well, I'm definitely eager to have you on after you go down there. [00:11:57] And I'm interesting to see if that really is isolated to that particular area because Christy Noam, before obviously she was moved in the administration, said that Elon Musk had actually helped her to figure out that members of her own department were putting spyware on her devices in order to spy on her. [00:12:17] So even within so many of these different government institutions and agencies, we're seeing that there's bad apples and systemic corruption that has to be rooted out. [00:12:28] And so I'm just curious to see if maybe that particular National Guard unit, if this checks out to be true, if that's just an isolated to that area. [00:12:40] So that'll be interesting. [00:12:42] I can tell you firsthand from Texas, down here in Texas, the military, the Texas National Guard that Abbott has out here working, the National Guard that's out here, these guys are out here and they patrol all night long. [00:12:59] It's not like a set time where they clock out at five o'clock and then they disappear and then the borders open. [00:13:05] And the El Paso sector, I know firsthand and the Big Ben sector, patrols, National Guard are ongoing 24-7. [00:13:15] Now, Arizona is a blue state. [00:13:18] They have a blue governor. [00:13:21] They have a blue congressman for that particular country. [00:13:26] You know why they have those because Carrie Lake said the entire state is run by the cartel, and they essentially had the cartel steal the election from her. [00:13:36] And so it's just interesting that this particular part of the border where people are, you know, reportedly that you say clocking out at five, giving a free little entryway to potential cartels. [00:13:49] I mean, that just, it actually makes sense in Arizona of all places. [00:13:55] You know, this whole little area that we're going to be investigating is also filled with NGOs. [00:14:02] And these NGOs actually have, we've seen cartel members be arrested at these locations throughout the years of me reporting these on this. [00:14:14] These NGOs have been very active. === Why We Left New York (03:01) === [00:14:17] They're very vile. [00:14:18] And even some of the businesses in that area are super anti-law enforcement. [00:14:24] They're anti-American. [00:14:26] And there are huge signs on the doors: no eyes, no law enforcement, no police allowed. [00:14:32] We will not serve you. [00:14:36] They are very aggressive individuals. [00:14:39] And if they catch you out there trying to record, they will not hesitate to approach you. [00:14:44] Even with multiple individuals, they will chase you out of that area. [00:14:47] It is a very, very dangerous area, the Aravaka, Arizona. [00:14:52] Yeah, no, I know exactly what you're talking about. [00:14:54] When I tried to show up to a hotel once in New York that was housing the illegal immigrants, there was like some type of NGO. [00:15:02] They wouldn't identify themselves, but they were the ones at the tables when like the illegals come in the lobby to check in and stuff. [00:15:08] And they had like all the different languages and the literature. [00:15:11] And so I go over to these people to try to talk to them and they wouldn't tell me anything. [00:15:15] They told me I need to leave the building. [00:15:17] You're not allowed to be here. [00:15:18] And I was like, I'm a journalist and like these are being paid for by tax dollars. [00:15:23] I'm asking here to ask questions. [00:15:24] Do you have a media spokesperson? [00:15:27] Do you have someone that can take, you know, questions from the press? [00:15:31] And they're like, no, you're not allowed to be here. [00:15:33] Like, they would tell me nothing. [00:15:34] Like it was some giant secret. [00:15:36] And there was no way for me to get in contact with anyone. [00:15:40] They wouldn't say who they were with. [00:15:41] They had security wearing masks come out and they had like security badges, but didn't say security for who. [00:15:47] And I repeatedly asked them, I'm like, do you work for the hotel? [00:15:50] Like, are you from the hotel? [00:15:51] And they wouldn't answer. [00:15:53] And he had like a foreign accent too. [00:15:55] He's like, no, you need to leave. [00:15:56] You need to leave. [00:15:57] Finally, I go outside and I'm like, by the way, I'm filming all of this. [00:16:01] One of these days, I'll play the video for the show. [00:16:03] But I go outside, they call the freaking police, which I'd already spoken with prior to going to this hotel. [00:16:09] And they're like, unless the hotel tells you to leave, you don't have to. [00:16:13] So that's why I kept asking, like, are you at the hotel? [00:16:16] And they refused to say. [00:16:18] So I was like, well, law enforcement said I didn't have to leave unless the hotel tells me to. [00:16:22] So do you work for the hotel? [00:16:24] So I go outside, they call police, police come, and they go in. [00:16:28] And he managed to, someone who self-identified as the hotel manager said they didn't want me to be there. [00:16:36] But I repeatedly asked for the hotel manager while I was inside. [00:16:39] So the whole thing was so sketchy. [00:16:41] And they're like, we're going to issue a no trespass order. [00:16:43] Like, you're not allowed to be here if you come back. [00:16:45] And I'm like, so let me get this straight. [00:16:47] We're going to have security enforced around the Ramada Inn in Newburgh, New York, but we're not going to have security enforced around our country. [00:16:55] Is that how this works? [00:16:58] So I'm like, geez, we need to hire this officer to go to the border and do what you just did to me, but down there. [00:17:05] It's crazy. [00:17:06] Just like in New York right now, they're asking you for your social security and an ID to shovel snow to get paid, but they don't want to ask you for an ID to go vote. [00:17:17] It's illogical. === Cartels Compared to Hezbollah (15:45) === [00:17:19] One thing that I want to touch on real quick before we go: Stephen Miller had an excellent interview earlier, actually, where he actually mentions and talks about the cartel and he actually makes references to them, comparing them to the Hezbollah and ISIS of the West. [00:17:36] We got to remember the FBI was actually the people that helped extract El Mencho from Mexico. [00:17:46] President Seinbaum was deliberately lying to her country saying that the U.S. had no involvement, blah, blah, blah. [00:17:55] In fact, it was the FBI search and rescue that went down there and busted the doors down and got that guy out of there. [00:18:02] And so we already have our military operating south of the border. [00:18:08] We have heavy, heavy surveillance drones tracking these individuals. [00:18:14] Today's meeting was just kind of letting them know, baby, we're coming and it's coming and it's going to come fast. [00:18:21] And I don't think that the cartel has a clue of the wrath and fury that President Trump is about to unleash on their yeah. [00:18:31] Well if you just stick around for a little if you can stick around for a little bit longer, I actually have a few clips from today's counter cartel conference and I'd love to get your reaction to some of what they said. [00:18:41] I think we actually let's start off with the let's see we have I think we have the actual one with Steve Miller that you were just talking about there. [00:18:52] So can we skip ahead and go ahead and play the one with Steve Miller? [00:18:57] There's been a paradigm shift under President Trump in the Western hemisphere in the last 14 months. [00:19:04] Some of that was touched on by the earlier speakers, but just to restate it we are not going to cede an inch of territory in this hemisphere to our enemies or our adversaries. [00:19:18] Our national security, our homeland security, the safety and well-being of our people begins at home, begins in our neighborhood, begins in our home region. [00:19:28] And for too long, we have allowed foreign enemies, foreign adversaries, and enemy terrorist organizations to control territory and spaces in this hemisphere where they can project power, project threats, and directly threaten the lives of your citizens and our citizens. [00:19:47] And so under the leadership of President Trump, we are using hard power, military power, lethal force to protect and defend the American homeland. [00:19:58] Not a single one of your nations should tolerate the existence of a single square mile of territory that is under the control of any entity other than the sovereign governments of your country. [00:20:12] The idea that we would have in this hemisphere area that are under the physical control of foreign terrorist organizations, paramilitary organizations, is completely unacceptable. [00:20:25] The cartels that operate in this hemisphere are the ISIS and the Al-Qaeda of the Western Hemisphere and should be treated just as brutally and just as ruthlessly as we treat those organizations. [00:20:36] We have learned after decades of effort is that there's not a criminal justice solution to the cartel problem. [00:20:44] There are elements of the problem that require a criminal justice solution, to be sure, but just as we fought al-Qaeda and fought ISIS with the tip of a very lethal spear, the reason why this is a conference with military leadership and not a conference of lawyers is because these organizations can only be defeated with military power. [00:21:10] Those are some powerful words there, Anthony. [00:21:13] He's my favorite. [00:21:19] He talks, he's a doer. [00:21:22] He walks the walk. [00:21:24] And at the end of the day, he has a lot of pool within the administration. [00:21:28] And what he says, I think the cartel has big problems on their feet right now. [00:21:35] Yeah, certainly. [00:21:36] And you mentioned earlier, you know, they've been cut off from a lot of the money that they had made from human smuggling, which is why they're probably desperate to push the drugs in any vulnerable parts of the border they can find. [00:21:49] But take a listen to this soundbite here from Secretary Hagsef, just detailing how under Biden, human smuggling rose actually 2,000%. [00:22:00] Take a listen. [00:22:05] When adversaries conduct incursions in this hemisphere, off the coast of a U.S. state, Alaska, or off the coast of Greenland, or in the Gulf of America or the Caribbean, that is a direct threat to the United States homeland and to peace in this hemisphere. [00:22:21] When adversaries control ports or infrastructure along strategic choke points for U.S. and hemisphere trade, such as the Panama Canal or install military facilities just miles off our shore, that is a threat to the United States homeland and peace to this hemisphere. [00:22:39] When terrorist killers and millions of illegal aliens invaded our borders and destabilized nations across the hemisphere, under Joe Biden's administration, the human smuggling industry exploded by more than 2,000%, from a $500 million so-called industry in 2018 to $13 billion by 2022. [00:23:06] Cartels of terrorists across our hemisphere, enabled by adversaries, created and profited from chaos. [00:23:12] What creates chaos? [00:23:14] No leadership creates chaos. [00:23:17] In our nation, narco-terrorist groups like Trende Aragua prospered. [00:23:22] They raped, they poisoned, they murdered innocent Americans. [00:23:24] They terrorized our cities, our towns, and our neighborhoods like they do yours. [00:23:30] Across this region, these gangsters control and terrorize large swaths of your territories, kill thousands of your people, and promote chaos that makes normal life sometimes almost impossible. [00:23:44] Crimes spiked massively. [00:23:49] So, I mean, it was exactly to your point earlier, you know, like you think it rose 2,000% human smuggling, and every single person smuggled is a dollar sign for the cartels, right? [00:24:04] And so, now that it's dropped 2,000% under President Trump, like you got to think it's hurting them. [00:24:12] And they're probably going to be desperate to do anything to recoup that power and profit. [00:24:18] Absolutely. [00:24:19] Even the lowest hanging fruit from the cartel was making buku bucks. [00:24:24] And I'm talking the lower, the lowest hanging fruit is the dude that's standing right there at the river getting ready to cross people over. [00:24:32] He would also be extorting individuals' time at times for thousands of dollars per person. [00:24:39] And then if not paid, he would not allow these people to cross. [00:24:43] These people are trying to supplement their losses of four years of unlimited cash flow coming to them. [00:24:52] All of a sudden comes to a screeching halt. [00:24:55] President Trump becomes their number one enemy and they start really trying to push their dope. [00:25:01] A lot of dope is being pushed right now into our country through areas that are completely unprotected because of the rigorous territory out there. [00:25:12] And it is very hard to get out there to some of these locations. [00:25:16] We also have tunnels. [00:25:19] We can't pretend like the tunnels is not actively happening. [00:25:23] Just because you don't see an active story or a headline on the news does not mean that there are no current tunnels across the country. [00:25:33] I speculate there's got to be at least 100, at least 100 solid, very well ventilated tunnels with railing system from East Coast to West Coast, just funneling and funneling hundreds and hundreds of pounds per load on these trails that on these trail carts made out of it looks like a little trainway and they're just coming back and forth, [00:26:03] back and forth all day long. [00:26:05] We'd have to be very naive to think that that is still not currently happening. [00:26:11] In the El Paso sector, for example, they don't even need tunnels. [00:26:16] They just start breaking and chipping into the water drainage system and they find a little rat hole and boom, they take off. [00:26:25] And all of a sudden, you have individuals coming out of these sewers like ninja turtles in the downtown area, all over the city in El Paso. [00:26:37] And this is, they're actually penetrating under the river, Heather, under the river, and making it across into the United States. [00:26:47] It is far, far too common. [00:26:49] I think we need some much, much better technology, aerial technology to be able to detect a lot of these tunnels because I can honestly say there's got to be at least 100, at least 100 of them across the southern border actively operating. [00:27:07] So, how do you think if they're actively operating, right? [00:27:11] I mean, the U.S. has some incredible access to intelligence drones. [00:27:15] I mean, like what we're seeing us do in Iran is just a perfect example of how much that we have access to. [00:27:21] Do you like, how is it possible that like 100 of these still operate today? [00:27:27] Is it just like the Trump administration needs time to clean it all up? [00:27:32] Or do you think, you know, one of the concerns that we, you know, corruption is existed as long as man's been existed, right? [00:27:41] Like, do we think maybe the cartels have embedded themselves in some of these government agencies and that's how they're still allowed to sort of operate? [00:27:49] I mean, I just, it's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that with the technology and advancements that we have today, that we couldn't easily in like two seconds identify all these tunnels. [00:28:01] You know, it's, I'm going to, it's probably not a popular opinion, but we've got to be frank about the situation. [00:28:08] The CIA has been behind a lot of narco situations and drug trafficking situations. [00:28:16] They've been a huge supplier of drugs for our own country, Heather. [00:28:21] And so to try to alienate away from the reality and pretend like we don't have corruption or we don't have current individuals that know about this within our government, we'd be really, really naive. [00:28:35] Unfortunately, corruption goes very deep. [00:28:40] Money makes people do some really weird things sometimes. [00:28:44] And unfortunately, with the power, with the money, and as lucrative of a business as it is, it is very easy for the cartel to buy a Border Patrol agent, a DHS agent, a politician, and have them turn a blind eye or completely have the politician remove certain law enforcement from a specific area or a property where maybe people are crossing, coming in through. [00:29:14] It's just it corruption runs extremely deep, and it's on both sides. [00:29:19] In our country, unfortunately, we're learning quicker, very quickly, how corrupt it is. [00:29:25] Yeah, and that's exactly why the work of journalists like yourself going down there is so important. [00:29:31] And even our founding fathers knew that because where there is corruption, we have freedom of the press to shed light on it so we as a people can root it out and fix it. [00:29:41] I just want to get your final question on just the state of Mexico right now. [00:29:47] There's a headline here that says El Mencho killing signals volatile new chapter in Mexico's drug war. [00:29:55] Is it still because I know everyone's talking about Iran right now, but is are things still violent and volatile there in Mexico, or have they sort of died down a little bit? [00:30:07] They are volatile. [00:30:10] The Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generación, CJNG, currently has taken over their state and has lined up all along the edge to make sure that no intruders are coming into their state trying to take them over. [00:30:30] They're on high alert. [00:30:31] Cartels are battling it out very much so. [00:30:35] Obviously, when you remove one person from power, here comes the vacuum and everybody starts fighting, trying to be that head honcho. [00:30:44] That is kind of where we're at right now. [00:30:47] There are multiple criminal organizations that are pretty much duking it out amongst themselves and they are taking each other's lives. [00:30:57] And for the most part, they're not involving much of the citizens of Mexico, the people that have nothing to do with their kind of business or any of those transactions. [00:31:11] Luckily for the citizens of Mexico, they're not being impacted. [00:31:16] I've not heard any recent reports of any Mexican casualties, but I do know that amongst the cartels, they are at war and they are still very much so killing themselves. [00:31:28] Yes, ma'am. [00:31:30] Yeah. [00:31:30] Well, thank you so much for contributing as always. [00:31:33] And, you know, I'll just say that, you know, when you mentioned earlier, like the CIA and stuff, I'll never forget reading a few years ago under the Obama, well, it's more than a few years ago, but under the Obama administration, when they had DEA agents that were going and meeting with members of the Sinaloa cartel and allowing them to sell drugs in exchange for information on rival gangs and just sort of like the corruption at play. [00:31:56] And I always wonder, you know, are all of the CEI agents and FBI agents and things like that that worked under Obama and Biden, how many of them are still there, right? [00:32:06] Like how many of them have just like kind of skirted across and are still a part of the system. [00:32:12] And that's something that I think, you know, we should all dig more into. [00:32:16] It would be nice to maybe hear from some of the Trump administration officials just on the numbers of like how many people they have replaced. [00:32:24] You know what I mean? [00:32:26] Or how many people actually went to jail for situations or operations like Operation Fast and Furious? [00:32:33] How many weapons did the United States not send illegally into Mexico that ended up in the hands of these criminal cartels? [00:32:43] And it was all known by the U.S. government how many people were held accountable for situations like that? [00:32:50] Or how many people were left behind as holdovers? [00:32:54] Amen. [00:32:55] Well, thank you so much, Anthony, for joining me. [00:32:57] And we'll definitely have you back on. [00:33:00] Stay safe out there as you go and uncover all this stuff. === Best Annual Offers Sale (02:56) === [00:33:04] Thank you, Heather. [00:33:05] God bless you guys. [00:33:05] See you guys soon. [00:33:07] Thank you. [00:33:07] Gosh, so much going on still at the border. [00:33:10] And, you know, President Trump is one person and we're dealing with a mountain of systemic corruption. 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[00:36:59] What are we looking at here? [00:37:01] Well, really, it just was a report from an independent researcher, obviously and physician. [00:37:06] We all love Dr. Malone, Dr. Robert Malone, raising new questions about the U.S. biodefense oversight. [00:37:12] He's alleging that a U.S. Army laboratory at Doug Way Peruvian Ground shipped live anthrax samples to dozens of labs in the United States and overseas after they were believed to be inactivated. [00:37:24] The report revisits and expands on a previously acknowledged Pentagon biosafety failure, arguing newly surfaced details and documents show the scope of the shipments may have been broader than initially understood. [00:37:38] The revelations are reigniting scrutiny of military biological research programs and safety protocols used when handling and distributing these dangerous pathogens. [00:37:47] So this all coming today from the X account of Dr. Malone and an article that he put out there, just exposing things as usual, which is what he does best, these pathogens and just all of these labs and the government is always sort of what the conspiracy conspiracy theorists say always turn out to be true, but always suspicious of anthrax and Lyme disease. [00:38:09] Another interesting tweet that was put out today that we could talk about as well that Dr. Malone had put out there. [00:38:15] So, interesting things as the White House is going crazy right now over news that Christy Noam was fired. [00:38:20] Besides that, you know, just never a dull day, as you know, Heather, in Washington, D.C. [00:38:27] Yeah, and that's what makes it so hard is it's like our government is so big and so bloated that there's so much corruption. [00:38:33] There's so much good at the same time. [00:38:35] So, I like to try to have some episodes focus on, you know, the wins that we're having, but it's also important to focus on stuff like this that comes out where it's like, okay, something bad happened here. [00:38:45] We need accountability to sort of fix it. [00:38:47] And we can actually put that the Lyme's disease one up as well. [00:38:52] We have a, he put out a sub stack declassified, actually, there you go. [00:38:56] Dr. Robert Malone declassified documents exposing U.S. military released 282,000 radioactive ticks sparking Lyme disease epidemic and a 40-year cover-up. [00:39:09] Now, this is personal to me. [00:39:11] My mother has Lyme's disease, and we're up in New England. [00:39:14] So, Massachusetts is where she got it, which is not too far from Connecticut. [00:39:17] So, what can you tell us about the Lyme's disease, the newly declassified documents? [00:39:23] Just a bunch of stuff. [00:39:25] Plum Island Animal Disease Center under Army Chemical Corps. [00:39:28] And everybody was always suspicious about, obviously, Plum Island conducted open-air tick experiments with containment failures, testing animals mingled with wild deer and birds, and deer from nearby Lyme, Connecticut, which is, I guess, where the disease got its name, swam to the island while birds fed on insects. [00:39:46] It was only again Lyme, Connecticut, 13 miles away, and became the namesake epicenter in 1975. [00:39:51] And it's personal to me too, because a very good friend of mine does have Lyme disease as well. [00:39:55] And I always heard that it was a government created thing. [00:39:59] Just again, this was put out actually today by Rob Schneider, who let me just really quickly find that ex post. [00:40:06] If you guys have it, well, he shared this article basically saying, dear conspiracy theorist, sadly, you were right again. [00:40:13] And this is MJ Ultra Truth, but this was shared by Rob Schneider when I first saw it today, who, you know, is a deeply Maha individual that's from Hollywood that's out and talking about these things. [00:40:22] So he brought it to my attention that Dr. Robert Malone, like you mentioned, declassified these documents. [00:40:30] CIA operatives under Operation Mongoose in 1962 dropped infected ticks on Cuban sugarcane workers via nighttime C-123 flights. [00:40:40] One operative's infant son suffered a life-threatening 105-degree fever requiring a treachotomy. [00:40:48] I hope I'm saying that right. [00:40:49] That's an operation of the trachea after family contamination. [00:40:54] And Willie Bergdoffer discovered a second pathogen called the Swiss agent in patient samples, but deliberately omitted it from his published research materials found in his garage after 2014 death proved 40 plus years of suppression of co-infection data that could explain chronic Lyme treatment failures. [00:41:15] So many things. [00:41:16] Operation Big Itch in 1954 successfully dropped 670 over 600,000 tropical rat fleas from cluster bottom proved the weapons could incapacitate an entire battalion seas target area for up to a full day. [00:41:34] And just the list goes on and on of all these claims. [00:41:37] Multiple tick-borne diseases erupted simultaneously around the Long Island Sound where I'm from right after the tick releases in the late 60s and early 70s clustering statistically around Plum Island and an anomaly the article attributes to possible lab enhancements or accidental release. [00:41:58] And finally, Bergdoffer recruited in 1951 for tick weaponization and linked to Nazi scientists brought Operation Paperclip, left brought via Operation Paperclip, left a cryptic note before dying saying, I wondered why somebody didn't do something, quote unquote. [00:42:15] And in a 2013 video testimony, insinuated an accidental release while admitting he didn't, quote, tell you everything. [00:42:23] So all of these things now coming to the surface via Dr. Malone's research and just using his platform to again, I think, really blow the whistle and encourage the American people not to trust the government, what the government tells you. [00:42:37] It's sad that these things do come out decades later when the majority of people that were alive during that time are dead and can't be held to trial or accountability can't be had, unfortunately, which is probably what's going to happen with so many things like COVID and the election of 2020 and other elections more than likely. [00:42:54] And as you know, the J6 hoax and all of the things that we fight so hard in real time to expose the truth on. [00:43:00] Maybe in 50 years, all of a sudden, there'll be some platform like X that will say, oh, well, here, they were right the whole time. [00:43:06] And there's these classified documents we're releasing, but nobody could be held accountable because, you know, it's half a century after the fact, unfortunately. [00:43:14] Yeah. [00:43:15] Well, you mentioned Operation Paperclip. [00:43:16] And for those that don't know, I just wanted to, you know, pull up. [00:43:19] Wikipedia explains Operation Paperclip was a secret United States intelligence program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were taken from former Nazi Germany to the U.S. for government employment after the end of World War II in Europe. [00:43:38] Several were confirmed to be former members of the Nazi Party. [00:43:42] So that's, you know, pretty interesting that now all of a sudden we're having these declassified documents, unleashing these bioweapons. [00:43:51] You know, it's just it's really alarming the level of sort of corruption within the medical industry because it's still just as bad when we look at what just happened to COVID. [00:44:02] So, you have the Lyme situation, however, many years ago, then you just have what happened with COVID, and you had Biden pardoning Fauci with the auto pen. [00:44:11] Like, it's still to be determined whether or not we see people like Fauci go to jail for their role in the COVID pandemic. [00:44:19] What are you hearing there at the White House in terms of any accountability from some of these mad scientists and doctors that really are to blame for not just Lymes, but the COVID pandemic and probably many other bioweapons that you know just don't get the amount of media coverage that they should? [00:44:36] Well, sadly, nothing. [00:44:38] Uh, it's not something I think that really is on the top of the administration's list, uh, likely because a lot of those officials crossed over it through different administrations. [00:44:47] I've been around since the beginning of time. [00:44:50] HHS, I realize upon coming to DC is one of the biggest departments here. [00:44:54] The compound is tremendous. [00:44:56] There is a different branches like NIH and all of the different areas where the bioweapon laboratories are held in different parts of Maryland. [00:45:06] So, it's just such a massive complex. [00:45:08] And Kennedy, I do believe, is doing the best that he can, given the tools that he has, to try to un everything there and fire the people that need to be fired. [00:45:17] He's definitely changed leadership over, but just like the Department of Justice, HHS is just filled with career bureaucracy, scam artists, and criminals that literally have been lying to the American public for a very long time. [00:45:28] And to really dismantle DHS, rather, not DHS, HHS, or the Department of Justice, you would have to really just fire everybody and start from the bottom up, which I don't think anybody's willing to do because there's dangers in that in and of itself with these tremendous bureaucracies. [00:45:43] But I know that Kennedy is really trying. [00:45:46] I think he's one of the cabinet members that really is doing what he said he was going to do. [00:45:51] I just don't think he realized what a massive undertaking that it would be and just how entrenched these departments really are with deep state swamp creatures, with lobbyists, with dark money, with people that have colluded to poison and lie to the American people for decades, not just under Trump administration or Biden administration, but Obama and Bush and going way further back than that. [00:46:13] That's why it's so difficult, a lot of people say, to really pinpoint or arrest somebody or hold somebody accountable just because of all the layers of protection and all the coordination, I think, between administrations and bureaucrats that it's just impossible to detangle without somebody in the crosshairs that might be a very powerful person right now. [00:46:33] Yeah, there's definitely a lot of the DC bubble, sort of backdoor deals that go on where this person worked for, you know, a lobbying firm and then they get a job working in administration. [00:46:46] And so they have friends back in the arena they used to come from and things like that. [00:46:52] That, you know, President Trump, on the one hand, was never part of the political circuit. [00:46:56] He was always in the business circuit. [00:46:58] And I think he's definitely learned a lot more this time around than his first administration. [00:47:03] Certainly, some better people involved. [00:47:06] Some I think we all have questions regarding. [00:47:08] I know a lot of us would like to see more from the DOJ, more arrests and things like that. === Breaking News: Marine Dragged Out (12:17) === [00:47:13] While President Trump does appear to be focusing on election integrity as like his top priority, everyone's been, you know, satisfied seeing the Fulton County election hub raid and some of that stuff. [00:47:26] But there's still a divide when it comes to his actions recently with Operation Epic Fury in Israel, or yeah, in Iran, alongside Israel. [00:47:37] And so I wanted to just kind of talk about that because oftentimes it's like the elephant in the room here, right? [00:47:43] You have half of Trump's base that are like, yes, let's go fight this war. [00:47:48] A lot of them are concerned with some of the behavior of Israel in recent times. [00:47:56] But I want to play the most controversial soundbite that got the attention of the press secretary. [00:48:01] And this was a soundbite from Secretary Rubio on his response to what's going on in Israel. [00:48:08] So take a listen. [00:48:10] Yesterday, you told us that Israel was going to strike Iran, and that's why we needed to get involved. [00:48:16] Today, the president said that Iran was going to get involved. [00:48:19] Yeah, your statement is false. [00:48:20] So that's not what I was asked very specifically. [00:48:22] Were you there yesterday? [00:48:23] Yes, I am. [00:48:25] Wait a minute. [00:48:27] There absolutely was an imminent threat. [00:48:28] And the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked and we believed they would be attacked, that we knew that if Iran was attacked and we believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us. [00:48:42] No, did you were you the one that because somebody asked me a question yesterday, did we go in because of Israel? [00:48:46] And I said, you asked me that you got a follow-up. [00:48:48] And I said, no, I told you this had to happen anyway. [00:48:51] The president made a decision, and the decision he made was that Iran was not going to be allowed to hide behind its ballistic missile program, that Iran was not going to be allowed to hide behind its ability to conduct these attacks. [00:49:01] That decision had been made. [00:49:02] The president systematically made a decision to systematically destroy this terroristic capability that they had, and we carried that out. [00:49:09] I was very clear in that answer. [00:49:10] This was a question of timing of why this had to happen as a joint operation, not the question of the intent. [00:49:18] I mean, there, I think there was like he had the original controversial clip, and then I think that was partially the following day, sort of walking back some of what he said. [00:49:29] And then Secretary, the press secretary, Caroline, actually put out this tweet where she said, no, Marco Rupio didn't claim that Israel dragged us into war with Iran. [00:49:43] So just you were there for the briefing that she just had. [00:49:47] Did questions come up about this particular issue? [00:49:51] No, not in the briefing yesterday. [00:49:52] I think that the president spoke on that. [00:49:56] It was at, I believe it was at the Medal of Honor swearing-in ceremony. [00:50:01] It wasn't earlier in the day, but it was probably, it was the day before when President Trump said, no, Israel did not pull us into this war. [00:50:08] Actually, it was maybe the opposite. [00:50:10] sort of saying maybe it was us that pulled Israel into this war. [00:50:13] So that was sort of the president's statement. [00:50:14] And I don't know if that satisfied or not when it comes to the mainstream media. [00:50:18] They weren't really asking questions. [00:50:20] As surprised I was about that statement to clarify, as far as I remember, or at least not in a significant way was that brought up at the briefing yesterday, just because President Trump had spoken on it and Marco Rubio. [00:50:32] So really a lot in the briefing yesterday, of course, was about Iran. [00:50:35] Actually, 99% of the questions were about Iran and the attacks. [00:50:39] A journalist said flat out, did the United States bomb a school and kill 178 people? [00:50:51] It was questions more like that from the media yesterday. [00:50:55] And like I said, it was the day before. [00:50:57] I'm remembering that President Trump right out of the gate, it was at the Oval Office bilateral with the German chancellor. [00:51:03] The first question out from ABC was, did Israel make you go to, did Israel cause you to go the United States to go to war? [00:51:12] I don't know how it was phrased, but it was the first out of the gate. [00:51:15] And that's when the president made that viral sort of comment that all of the influencers picked up, which was, no, maybe it's the other way around. [00:51:24] So that was what the president said and hasn't really retracted that since. [00:51:28] Yeah. [00:51:29] Well, I mean, whether we did or didn't go because of Israel, it doesn't change that there is a huge portion of his base that are concerned about Israel. [00:51:40] And then there's the other portion of his base that love Israel. [00:51:44] And this is what's so crazy is that, you know, when we were in the home stretch of the campaign, it just felt like so many people were united, whether it was the Maha, the Libertarians, you know, the Zionists for Christian Republicans, the Catholic Republics. [00:52:01] Everybody was united, it felt like for a brief moment in time. [00:52:05] But it's sort of like we've had some fractures in the movement. [00:52:09] And I want to play this clip that's been going viral of a Marine who I believe is also running for office was protesting recently at the Armed Services Subcommittee. [00:52:22] His name is Brian McGinnis. [00:52:24] And he was there protesting, particularly Israel. [00:52:29] And then he was in a confrontation. [00:52:33] And Senator Tim, is it she, he? [00:52:36] She? [00:52:36] I don't know. [00:52:37] Tim she got into a scuffle with him, ultimately breaking his arm. [00:52:41] So, it's a little tough to watch, but take a listen. [00:52:45] Breaking news: a few moments ago, Brian McGinnis, a United States Marine Corps veteran, was dragged out of a hearing for protesting our most recent war with Iran. [00:52:57] And not only did they drag him out of the hearing, they broke his arm. [00:53:00] Here, watch this clip: come on, let's go. [00:53:06] America does not want to sound the guard for the war for Israel. [00:53:09] Your inability to name that shows your acceptance as leaders. [00:53:12] This is wrong, and nobody wants to fight for Israel. [00:53:18] Come on, please stand up, and the Marines stand up for America. [00:53:23] No one wants to fight for Israel. [00:53:28] I think this is absolutely crazy, but honestly, I'm not really that surprised. [00:53:32] We all know. [00:53:35] So, that for me, when I first watched it, it was much longer, so he sped it up. [00:53:39] But it was heartbreaking to watch just in general because I love all of our servicemen and women. [00:53:45] And clearly, that guy is passionate about what he's speaking about, right? [00:53:50] And it reminded me, you know, similar to Lieutenant Colonel Stu Scheller, who spoke out under the Biden administration after the Afghanistan withdrawal, right? [00:54:00] He was reprimanded for that. [00:54:03] So, this Marine, obviously, probably there was some sort of rules that he broke by protesting in there. [00:54:11] But at the end of the day, seeing any Marine treated kind of so hostile, like, yes, they have their opinion. [00:54:18] Like, could they not have escorted him out peacefully? [00:54:23] I don't know. [00:54:23] The whole thing just really, I don't really know what to make of it. [00:54:27] It didn't sit well with a lot of people, I think, that are patriotic because you know, you have Capitol Police in there, and let's be honest, Capitol Police aren't exactly the most elite police force on the planet. [00:54:37] And I just calling it like it is, but when you look at the Marines, they are known to be the toughest branch of the military. [00:54:43] So, any obvious soldier that was a Marine and fought for this country should be treated with respect when they have an opinion, not literally manhandled in that way, ganged up on by a bunch of Capitol Police officers. [00:54:55] And then a senator who, I don't know why he felt it was his duty to get involved and to start prying his hand and maybe breaking his hand, which is what I heard, which is crazy. [00:55:04] So, I do agree that that wasn't really a good look optically because my father was a Marine and he's in Arlington. [00:55:10] And whenever you see that Marine uniform, you just got to really respect it. [00:55:15] And sometimes, soldiers, the ones that were combat veterans specifically, are the ones that you really need to listen to when it comes to these wars because they're the ones that we're sending out and they have a right to have their opinion. [00:55:26] And they know, I think, better than anybody what it feels like to go to war, what it feels like to fight for this country. [00:55:32] As you know, a lot of veterans really supported President Trump because he ran on the platform of being a peace president. [00:55:40] And I don't think a lot of soldiers really want to be sent to war. [00:55:44] That's sort of like a last resort when somebody signs up for the military. [00:55:47] They're willing to go to war, but not for something that they feel isn't in America's best interests or to save this country. [00:55:54] So I think it's, you know, again, that clip went viral for a reason. [00:55:58] And I think it struck a chord with a lot of Americans. [00:56:01] Really, just the way that he was treated was a little bit jarring, as you know. [00:56:05] Yeah. [00:56:06] And it's just. [00:56:08] You know, this whole thing with Israel just doesn't seem to be going away. [00:56:13] People don't seem to be communicating and uniting on it. [00:56:16] It's either someone's, you know, one extreme or the other. [00:56:19] I want to put up a tweet here from somebody that Trump had actually appointed to his Religious Liberty Commission, Carrie Pregene Bowler. [00:56:28] She actually said Israel's values are incompatible with American values. [00:56:33] Pass it on. [00:56:34] And then we can go to another tweet from, this is somebody that I know from Twitter who's long a Trump supporter. [00:56:42] His handle is Jack Tron. [00:56:44] So if we put up his tweet, he says, you know, Islam is incompatible with Western civilization. [00:56:51] Pass it on. [00:56:51] So like sort of in response to her. [00:56:54] And that sort of demonstrates sort of the divide right now. [00:56:56] It just seems like the conflict that has always existed in the Middle East is now in America. [00:57:02] It's like the Muslim versus the Jews over in the Middle East is now somehow being battled out here in America, which was once a Christian nation, but suddenly now we're sort of like, it seems like enmeshed in this Middle Eastern controversy. [00:57:17] Well, certainly in the crosshairs, and I think that really, there was an article, I know we don't have it to pull up, but it was in the Washington Post really analyzing Trump, Trump and his base. [00:57:26] And the headline of the article, I'm going to read it from my phone because we don't have it, is MAGA is Trump president fires back at right-wing mutiny over Iran. [00:57:34] And there is a right-wing mutiny. [00:57:36] And it started off really, as you remember, when we threw the bunker bombers down on Iran. [00:57:42] And Tucker Carlson spoke out. [00:57:44] And all of a sudden, you know, I guess you could say to a certain extent, if one person as big as Tucker speaks out, then other people are going to find their voice. [00:57:52] And then, you know, Alex Jones started speaking out, Megan Kelly, Candace Owens, really, some really big voices. [00:57:57] And it sort of became this civil war in MAGA between individuals like that, then the Ben Shapiros and Mark Levins and Sean Hannity's of the world. [00:58:06] And it's not changed ever since. [00:58:08] And then there was Owen Shori out there saying maybe this could be fixed. [00:58:11] And, you know, we need to get together for the midterms. [00:58:14] We should be able to have this civil discourse. [00:58:17] We're a diverse group of people that support President Trump. [00:58:20] We all don't have to agree. [00:58:21] We're not a cult. [00:58:22] But it really seems like this last, what's going on right now in Iran might have sealed the deal when it comes to the quote-unquote mutiny. [00:58:30] I hope that's not the case. [00:58:31] I hope that the base could come together for the midterms. [00:58:34] But as you know, there's just so on right now on X. [00:58:39] I think it's 550 or maybe Americans and Trump supporters that are just against any type of intervention when it comes to Iran and questioning exactly why this is. [00:58:51] And of course, there's those influences out there. [00:58:54] Surprised to see Matt Walsh. [00:58:58] It wasn't really on my radar, somebody that works for Ben Shapiro speaking out against this. [00:59:02] So, you know, MAGA is divided right now. [00:59:04] It's sort of the elephant in the room. [00:59:06] It's something that the administration hasn't really acknowledged. [00:59:09] President Trump said he is MAGA. [00:59:11] That was what that article was about in the Washington Post. [00:59:15] I am MAGA. [00:59:16] So I think a lot of people are starting to use the word America first, not MAGA anymore, that are speaking out, that do consider themselves Trump support, but at the same time, feel like they should be able to disagree with certain policy of this administration, Heather. [00:59:30] Yeah. === Maga Divided: Leading by Example (01:02) === [00:59:31] Well, thank you for staying on top of it. [00:59:33] And just, you know, we just got to remember to put God first and love our enemies, love our neighbors, no matter what they think, and just, you know, try to bridge that gap because it was nice when we were all united at one point. [00:59:45] So I'd love for us all as a nation to get back to that. [00:59:48] But thank you so much, Kara, for joining us today. [00:59:51] And until next time. [00:59:53] Thank you, Heather. [00:59:56] So again, remember, Christ is king, and we got to lead by example. [01:00:00] If we're going to bridge these gaps, it's going to start by looking within and really reaching out to the people that don't think like us and trying to have those conversations. [01:00:09] So thank you guys so much for tuning in today. [01:00:11] We're going to have a lot more tomorrow. [01:00:12] So don't go or we'll see you tomorrow. [01:00:15] Have a nice day. [01:00:17] You ever see this guy with the pillows on fox? [01:00:22] My pillow guy, Mike Lindell. [01:00:26] He is the greatest. [01:00:29] The my pillow guy. [01:00:32] Mike Glindau.