Sept. 26, 2025 - The Lindell Report - Mike Lindell
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My pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
He is the greatest the My Pillow Guy, Mike Lindell, and he's been with us right from the beginning.
Hi, everybody.
We've talked about censorship in previous episodes.
It turns out that I got so caught up in that censorship discussion that I censored myself for the opening on this show here.
So, apologies, guys.
Welcome to the Mike Lindell Show.
And as you can tell, because I do not have a mustache, this is not Mike Lindell.
My name is Patrick Colbeck.
I work with Mike, and I just want to say thanks for tuning in today on Lindell TV.
We've got a lot of ground to cover on today's show.
As usual, we're going to be joined by our great team of DC reporters.
We're going to have Allison Steinberg in checking in, talking about what's going on in DC.
But later on, we're going to have a good friend of mine, special treat, a gentleman by the name of Fannie Montravati, who is one of those meddling kids that worked on ways to go off and help hold our election officials accountable and making sure that we had clean voter rolls and making sure that the voter roll data that we have, including voter history data, is accurate.
And he's going to walk us through a tool that he developed and it's been deployed across multiple states in the country called Check My Vote.
And while you're waiting, go to checkmyvote.org and you'll see some of the stuff we're going to be talking about there.
Then we're going to be talking about some recent developments regarding lawsuits.
The Department of Justice has expanded the number of lawsuits that it's filing against states that are refusing to comply with their request for information around compliance with the Help America Vote Act.
And then, and last but not least, we're going to have a little bit of a discussion on that Venezuelan whistleblower.
There's a lot of information packed in that announcement that we had earlier this week about this whistleblower that kind of laid it all out as to exactly how these machines are being used to steal our elections.
And if you want to check in on some of the information available on that, you can actually read his transcripts at lndellplan.com.
Just click on media there and it'll take you to a story where you can actually download the actual affidavits.
And those affidavits were developed in support of the appeal to get Tina Peters out of jail.
And so this is a big deal.
Please share that information with everybody you know because the more people that know about it, the faster we can get Tina out of prison.
So check into that.
And so as you can tell, we've got a lot to unpack in today's show.
But as I said at the beginning here, we want to start things off on the right foot by going to our great DC team.
And we've got Allison Steinberg joining us today.
Allison, welcome to Mike Lindell Show.
Hi, Patrick.
Great to see you.
Thanks for having me.
As always, happy Friday to you.
It's been no shortage of news on this Friday.
Sometimes in the news cycle, Fridays tend to be the slower day, but not today.
There's a lot that actually happened yesterday, so we'll unpack it all.
Starting with President Trump, who signed a national security presidential memorandum establishing a very comprehensive strategy to investigate, disrupt, and dismantle this ongoing radical left-wing violence that we continue to see time and time again.
He's calling this political violence and domestic terrorism and is now directing the FBI to lead a joint terrorism task force to coordinate this effort.
The strategy is going to focus on all aspects of political violence, including radicalization, recruitment, funding mechanisms, NGO involvement, related financial crimes.
So it's quite quite, they have quite the job ahead of them here.
I mean, we know this has been going on for quite some time.
And it looks like we are going to see some good progress here for once.
I just want to know if in addition to Antifa and these trans militia groups, we're also going to see some targeting of BLM because I think they need to be included in all this as well.
I'm sure that'll be uncovered when they start these investigations.
But I think it's, you know, it's good to see.
It's just a sticky subject, Patrick, because as we know, when a new administration comes in, you know, the pendulum swings back in the other direction.
We experienced it in 2020 under the Biden regime.
They came after us.
They censored us.
They silenced us.
They shut us down.
Do I think this is the same thing?
I don't know.
I think they're probably going to follow the law better in this case.
But I don't know.
It does set a dangerous precedent.
That's the big difference: we actually follow the law.
And so, when they go after people that are following the law, well, that's a big problem.
Now, when they go after people that are not following the law, you know, the types of people that are that they express their displeasure with things by committing, you know, acts of violence and burning down buildings, there is a little bit of a difference between the two.
And they try to conflate the two as the same thing.
They're not.
If you saw what happened in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination, there were prayer vigils on our side.
And when you saw the same wake of what happened after a criminal George Floyd actually died, we saw protests, we saw burning, we saw violence.
It is a completely different group of people.
And I, for one, choose to be on the prayer vigil side.
Amen.
Me too.
I've never, you know, never had any doubts about it.
But if there is any reassurance, you need it.
It's just good to see how vehemently different the two sides are and that we truly are on the right side of it all.
And God's providing us all with an easy button on this choice, isn't he?
Amen.
Exactly.
Everyone can come to this side.
All are welcome.
Unlike the left, where you're pushed out and rejected, if you don't fall in line with their, you know, ridiculous ideology, then, you know, you're out.
But here on the right, we welcome all.
Come as you are, but don't stay as you are.
If you're a radical leftist and you want to join the right side of history, you're going to have to, you know, make some radical changes in your life.
So with that being said, I do also want to point out that, you know, there was this.
I don't know if you ever saw it, Patrick, but I remember it and I will never forget it because it was so absurd.
This, they called it the pyramid.
What was it called?
The pyramid of fascist violence or something.
It was so ridiculous.
It was this pyramid that the last administration put out and it had all of these like right-wing media outlets on it.
Like Lindell TV would be on there, Breitbart was on there.
Just the new, I mean, every right-wing outlet was on there and they were like saying, we're going after these people.
These are the real domestic terrorists right here.
So it's just, you know, while this is happening and the current administration is targeting these violent leftists as they should be because they are quite literally violent, we just have to be very cautious in how we proceed.
We will follow the law and all this, of course.
But I just worry about a future administration incoming.
If it is not, you know, if they're not on the right side of history, they could easily turn things back around in the opposite direction, just like we saw under Biden.
I mean, we already have people like Hakeem Jeffries saying they're going to come after conservatives under a new administration.
So it's.
I've had visitors to my home with special agents and I get it.
It's an intimidation tactic.
But, you know, that's all the more reason why we need to focus on what Mike and yourself and others have focused on, which is around the elections.
And Lindell TV is probably better than any other news station at getting the truth out about what is happening regarding our elections.
And until we actually get back a measure of election integrity all across the country, you know, we can't dismiss the risk of exactly the scenario you're talking about.
Exactly.
It always comes back to the elections, doesn't it?
It is so critical though.
You're so, so right.
Make such a great point.
And yeah, we've got to get a handle on it because I've said it before.
I'll say it again.
I don't know if we have a country if we don't this time around.
So let's get moving there.
Getting back to the memorandum that the president did sign, it's now looking like George Soros is going to be a big target in all of this, which is really good news because we know he's responsible for largely funding many of these violent terrorist groups that go out there and wreak havoc on the country.
It's looking like, and I actually saw this before coming on to you, this is breaking news.
Ryan Moro, who's an investigative researcher at the Capital Research Center, is releasing information that actually shows, this is hard evidence, George Soros, Open Society Foundation, dumped over $80 million into terrorists and pro-terror groups.
Wow.
And this journalist is saying that, you know, the evidence is stark.
Open Society has sent millions of dollars into these U.S.-based organizations that do engage in direct actions and that the FBI is now calling domestic terrorism.
So let's hope we see some action here.
Yeah, Allison, the Capital Research Center is tied with an organization called Influence Watch.
And for the viewers that are tuning in, that is probably one of the best websites at following the money that you'll ever find.
I mean, Data Republican does a great job with her work as well.
But I'll tell you, Influence Watch has been around for a long time.
And you can type in any organization like Open Society, and it'll tell you who the donors are.
It'll tell you news about it.
And from my understanding, Capital Research is actually kind of the engine that drives that website.
So these guys know what they're talking about, and they've been doing it for quite a while.
I'm glad you brought that up.
I'm going to have to do a deep dive in there and see what I can find.
That is, there's no shortage of corruption these days.
But I mean, when you have the hard evidence, like what more do people need to see?
I'm sure the Democrats will still find a way to defend it, of course, but it's good.
We're making good strides here.
In the same vein in all of this, you know, the corruption riddled throughout government, the lying, the cheating, whatnot.
We also have this massive bombshell revelation regarding January 6th.
I'm sure everyone has heard by now, but this is huge.
President Trump posted about this, and he is highlighting the fact that the FBI is now admitting the opposite, the very opposite of what the December 2024 DOJ Office of the Inspector General report highlighted, which was originally that there was no undercover FBI employees at the Capitol on January 6th.
They said there was no evidence found.
They reviewed all the materials.
They reviewed all the testimony.
No evidence showing or suggesting that the FBI had any undercover employees there.
Well, lo and behold, fast forward to today, we now learn that the FBI is admitting that they had 276 plainclothes employees present, infiltrated, riddled throughout January 6th.
So, I mean, this is just, this is crazy.
I mean, we have just been lied to time and time again.
Right.
And think about how many people suffered as a result of that lie.
This is what I want everybody to understand.
I mean, Coney's now under indictment because he lied to Congress, right?
These lies are not little white lies with no victims.
They are not victimless crimes.
In the case of the J6, these 276 some odd FBI operatives that were there, how many of them were agent provocateurs?
How many of them actually incited violence?
How many of them actually were participants in breaking windows and going across the security perimeter and all that kind of stuff?
I mean, this is very frustrating, obviously, especially because I know a lot of the folks that were incarcerated for J6.
And they, above all else, need to have some justice done should it be found that some of these FBI agents were actually the ones that were instigating the violence that they had to pay the penalty for.
That's absolutely critical.
I mean, that is the main takeaway here that so many innocent men and women suffered in prisons, federal prisons, in gulags, really just the worst treatment imaginable for years.
They did not get a right to a speedy trial.
I mean, they were just totally mistreated.
It was completely illegal.
We were sounding the alarm on this forever, only to be, you know, told to shut up.
And if we said anything, the feds would come after us if we dare defend these innocent men and women.
It's just sickening.
So, yeah, I want to know.
Is there going to be an investigation into every single federal agent that was actually there on January 6th?
I think we need to have that happen.
Yeah, and never forget the good old J6 committee was so sure about what they were doing that they deleted all their records of their proceedings so that nobody could go off and check into them.
That's right.
And then they were pardoned by Biden on the last day in office with the auto pen.
Well, by the auto pen, right?
So you've taken the tour of the presidential wall.
I got to admit, for those of you who don't know, on the outside, actually, probably right around your left shoulder there, if you walk down the promenade, President Trump has photos of all the previous presidents.
When he gets to Trump 45, the next president is a picture of an auto pen, and then Trump 47 is his photo once again.
But that's classic.
And frankly, that's another case where, you know, the only reason it's humorous is because there's a significant element of truth associated with that.
If President Biden didn't have the faculty to issue some of these pardons that were issued, then the validity of those pardons should definitely be in question.
So some of these people that think they got the monopoly get out of jail free card think again.
And so we'll see how that all turns out.
Well, anyway, thank you for the update, Allison.
You got anything else for us before we tune into my good friend Fonnie?
Well, the last thing I had on my list, you mentioned it, James Comey is indicted, which I think is a great step in the right direction.
Of course, we are all eagerly awaiting accountability, and it seems as though we are finally getting that.
So hopefully we see the same for all the January 6th unselect committee, as I like to call them, and all the other criminals who wreaked havoc on our nation during the Biden regime.
I want to pause on this one because I put out a post on social media and you go out to vocal, you can see it.
But I highlighted that I believe this is domino number one.
I've been telling folks for a while here, September and October, I believe, are going to be the month of indictments.
We're going to start seeing the wheels of justice start rolling like a mighty river.
And I think it's starting.
And I think Comey's number one.
And so a lot of people have been frustrated that we haven't seen the indictments.
You saw even President Trump put out a truth about a week ago, I think it was, saying, Pam, I need to see some indictments.
What's going on here?
And they did a little bit of house cleaning with her chief of staff.
And now we see our first indictment featuring James Comey.
And I hope it's first of many because I think we got enough dominoes here to circle the White House grounds a couple times with some of the folks that need to fall.
So I'm really looking forward to seeing that first one get flicked and turned into an orange jumpsuit.
Amen to that.
I love it.
It's a very exciting time.
We've waited a long time for this.
And I think you're right.
We're starting to see the House of Cards beginning to crumble.
So good times ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm proposing that we, in honor of that first domino falling, we make October No One is Above the Law month.
And so I think we should just make that No One is Above the Law.
And frankly, that should be all year long.
So I'm a little hesitant to say just that next month, but I think we need to start promoting October as No One is Above the Law Month.
I like it.
We're going to get that going.
We got to get that trending on X. All right.
All right.
Well, have fun, Storming the Castle.
Appreciate all your work.
And when we, next thing we want to go off and tap into is my good friend Fonnie Montravati.
Thank you, Allison.
Thank you so much.
And we've got somebody that's been, you know, takes all kinds of different skill sets to help investigate what's going on with our elections and other matters throughout the country.
And I often talk about a group of patriots that I refer to as meddling kids.
And what I mean by that is kind of like from the old Scooby-Doo narrative where you had a bunch of kids running around a mystery machine that always seemed to find themselves in the wrong place at the right time.
And they ended up doing the jobs that the law enforcement, frankly, should have been doing.
They'd uncover, you know, the true people behind specific crimes.
And so they stepped up to the plate and they didn't do it for fanfare.
They didn't do it for money.
Matter of fact, the only compensation that I ever saw on a Scooby-Doo episode was a Scooby snack, and that was for Shaggy and Scooby.
So, and the next guest here that we have on is one of my favorite meddling kids.
And he's been got to start working on the technology side of election fraud investigation.
And he was very frustrated by what he saw.
And I'm going to let him tell his story and how he got engaged on it.
But, you know, my good friend Fonnie Montravati founded an organization.
And this organization created this website called checkmyvote.org.
And he just wanted to have a simple tool to allow people to go off and see if they voted in a given election.
They wanted to see what their voting history was like.
They wanted to see if they're registered to vote.
All kind of basic information.
And this has developed into a tool that, you know, other meddling kids can use all across the country now to go off and go off and, well, not all across the country yet.
He's in multiple states, but he started in Michigan.
They can go off and use this information to help out election officials in identifying voters that need to be cleaned up in their voter roles.
So it's a really big effort.
And he's got a very special technology background that I truly appreciate.
Plus, he's one of the nicest guys that I know.
So without further ado, I'd like to introduce everybody to Fonnie Montravati with checkmyvote.org.
Thank you, Patrick.
Thank you for having me on.
Am I audible?
Am I coming through okay?
I hope.
Yep.
Can't hear you a little bit soft here.
If you could lean up a little bit.
Is that better?
Yeah, can you tilt down your video a little bit?
Let's do this.
Okay.
Guys, he knows all the tech stuff here.
He's just so focused on the data data, but he's not looking at his camera.
That's fine.
Is this working?
I hope this works better.
Hello.
Okay, guys.
Can you hear me now?
Okay.
I had to go back to the first mic there, Fannie, and tilt your camera down a little bit so we can get your big, beautiful face there.
Appreciate it.
Beautiful face.
I got my.
There we go.
Perfect.
All right.
Yeah, good.
Okay, guys.
Everybody, sorry about that.
Let's hit the reset button.
Good friend, Fannie Montravati, founded a company called checkmyvote.org.
And Fonnie, I figured, we'll let you tell your story.
How did you get involved in this whole election integrity movement and what motivated you?
Well, yeah, thank you, Patrick, for having me on today.
And during the aftermath of the 2020 election, I mean, all that's been living under a rock, that became pretty evident that there was a much needed transparency to the entire American election processes, you know, starting with the voter role.
But my journey specifically began because I wanted to see the disposition of my own voting history or any record thereof, because frankly, there shouldn't be any because I wasn't a citizen of this great country at that time, although now I am on the path to it.
But I was worried because I heard anecdotal reports across the state that people who were deceased voted or, you know, things of that nature where non-citizens voted.
And that could be really bad for my citizenship application.
So I was worried about my identity may have been stolen or not.
Fanny, can I apologize for just a second?
And because you said something important, I want to make sure everybody understands it.
Is that you've been in the country for a while.
You've been working for a while.
You didn't, and you did everything legally.
That was no issue at all.
But you did not want to apply for citizenship when Biden had the keys of the White House.
And I think I find it very heartening when I hear why you didn't want to apply when Biden had the keys to the White House.
Maybe you can tip everybody off as to why.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, 2022, April is when I became eligible to be a citizen because, you know, you have to have the permanent residency green card for five years before you become eligible to even apply for citizenship.
So I got my green card in 2017.
So five years, 2022.
As I was going through the process thinking, you know, I'm so excited to apply.
I came upon some basic information where some of the questions that are asked in the citizenship test is who is the president of the United States of America.
And by that time, I was already working on the voter roles and I found a whole lot of problems.
And I, you know, I didn't want to write the answer as Joe Biden because I have seen so much in terms of following the news and applying my own logic.
And as a matter of fact, reading your book, 2022, and many other anecdotal evidences, but I just didn't want to apply because my answer to the question would be Donald J. Trump and that test.
And I don't think they'd pass me for that.
So I didn't want to write Joe Biden because in my conscience, that wouldn't sit right.
So the reason I emphasize that for everybody is that Fannie, first and foremost, is a man of principle and integrity.
So when he's going off and sharing this information, I can tell you he can provide the receipts, chapter and verse, tracing back to everything that he points out.
And we're going to go a little bit later in this segment.
We're going to talk about how he's been rewarded for such integrity with some of the recent rules being put out by our Michigan Secretary of State.
But I'll tell you, you know, so you started doing this investigation.
Started wanting to find out how your vote was actually cast, but you took it a lot further than that.
Walk us through that development process and how you started helping out everybody else around Michigan and then in other states.
Uh, shortly thereafter yes uh so uh, I didn't find any of my record, thankfully so.
But then I was involved in conversations with various local grassroots groups in Michigan who were all discussing the same topic, about the 2020 election.
You know, january 2021, february period time frame, early 2021, spring of 2021.
Uh, during that time, I um, you know many people wanted to know what their record showed up as in terms of having voted absentee or in person.
So I would go and do it manually.
Like you know, i'd look at the voter rolls through my database directly.
There was no website obviously, at that point and uh, soon enough, the word spread and many people would just email me or text me or send me a message and telegram or something, asking if uh, you know to look them up, and I would do that send them back an email.
Hey Finnie, just a quick, quick point of reference on it.
When you say you're looking it up in your database, I want to make sure everybody understands that the data in your database came directly from the Michigan secretary of state via Foyer requests and you yeah, it was quite expensive and you did it with your own, with your own funds.
You actually didn't raise money for it at the time and now it's gotten a lot bigger than that.
But I mean, you were just going off and doing self-funding for all this just so you could get to the real truth.
Absolutely yep initially uh, to start off with, there were other people who made the Foyer request and I got in touch with them and they gave me the files.
But soon I realized you know what data is better when you have it directly from the source.
So I made my own Foyer requests very soon after and then I got my own files directly from the secretary of state, Michigan Bureau OF Elections.
So thank you for pointing that out.
Yep, so all the data that i'm looking at for all these people to give them this information back to them is all from the SOS voter roles as obtained from them and uh, many people would uh kind of respond with, well, I voted in person.
Why does it say absentee?
I don't know.
You know.
So a lot of discrepancies were just uncovered within a short period of time and I couldn't do this by hand every day, so I decided to build a website.
So the first version came out in the fall of 2021, but not under check my vote's name.
It was under a different name cipher.us, had a different domain, but uh, people started doing that that soon after.
Uh uh, the the most popular request was, I want to see who's registered to vote for my address and, in fact, my own uh, rental property down in Meridian Township.
I checked I had two people registered to vote that were not my tenants.
So I proceeded to meet the clerk there and actually I met the deputy clerk anyway, but that person removed those two people from the voter roles.
But uh, this feature became very powerful because everybody wanted to see who's registered to vote from their address.
So that was the first feature that came out and checked my vote in fall of 2021.
And you know, as part of my journey after that, many people after cleaning up their own backyard, so to speak, by checking who's registered to vote from their address and getting them removed, if need be, all records corrected in some cases where someone has different last name, you know they want to just go fix that right, so go to the clerk.
They also wanted to look out for their precincts And see if someone is registered to vote from that hood hotel that burnt down like three months ago, right?
And boy, we found so much stuff.
We found registrations from empty lots, registrations from raised down buildings.
Buildings were raised down five years ago, and you had registrations while they were voting in elections and everything.
So it just quickly spread like that.
And Ohio approached soon, saying they want to, you know, the tool.
And Tennessee approached soon after.
But I started building tools for volunteers now because these people, amazing people, these people are not just cleaning up their own backyard.
They want to look out for their precincts, their townships, and even county as a whole.
And everybody could use this tool to basically achieve clean voter roles in their own little communities, neighborhoods, and precincts.
So that's how it grew, just growing even now, actually.
So you empowered, you were driven by empowering other meddling kids across the board.
And I think it's important to focus on the fact that you have two basic sets of data that you're, sets of election records that you're helping people clean up.
Number one is the voter registration data.
Who's actually eligible to vote?
Like you said, you can look up a specific address, see who's registered to vote at that address.
And if you know anything about that address and you see any anomalies, you can go off and bring that to the attention of your clerk.
But you also have access to the voter history data.
So I think that's also very important.
And you and I have both talked extensively about our favorite resident of Flint, Michigan, a guy by the name of Jason Lemoyne Daniel.
I was wondering if you could kind of walk people through, you know, Jason's voting history and when he registered, all that kind of stuff, and maybe highlight some anomalies that people probably would be interested in hearing about as we go through that.
So if you can share your screen and walk us through that on the checkmyvote.org website, let's give it a go here.
And actually, while you're setting that up, Fonnie, we're going to take a quick break and for a commercial break.
And then when we come back, we're going to walk through this just a sample of how CheckMy Vote can be used to check voter registration data and voter history data.
So thanks for tuning in to Michael and Dell Show.
Once again, my name is Patrick Kohlbeck, and I'm joined by my guest, Fanny Mantravati.
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quantities are extremely limited so order now hey everybody welcome back to the mike lindell show you I'm your host today, Patrick Kolbeck, and I'm joined by a very special guest, friend of mine, Fonnie Montrabati, who created a website called checkmyvote.org.
And the purpose of this website is to help meddling kids go off and identify the integrity of our voter roles and integrity of our voter history data.
And we're just going to show you a quick example of how this tool can be used.
Fonnie, you're going to walk us through maybe just a little exploration on a gentleman by the name of Jason Lemoyne Daniel and why, you know, this name in particular is of concern here in the state of Michigan.
Oh, yes, absolutely, Patrick.
Jason Lemoyne Daniel is the poster boy of Michigan's voter roles, as I like to refer to.
And you can see my screen right on the www.checkmyvote.org and you'd be presented with the map of the U.S. with three states lit up in red.
That's where we're live right now.
And click on Michigan, it takes you to the Michigan-specific application for the voter roles.
Now, first, I mean, you go to the Art at MyAddress.
This was the feature I was talking about that is the most popular feature that was the first feature we launched.
And the address here is 3602 Race Street.
And once you pull that up, it pulls up with one registration here, as you see.
Let me know if you want me to make the screen bigger, but I can do that too if you need it.
But yeah, you see this Jason Lemoyne Daniel with the birth year of 1850.
And, you know, in a challenged state, that red pill there shows challenged.
Can you scroll down a little bit there?
Yeah.
I think we're missing.
Yeah, there we go.
Good.
And I think it's important to highlight one of those data in one of those columns, don't you think?
Yes, 1850.
Birth year.
Yeah.
That made him 170-year-old, 170 years old for the November 2020 election.
And this is another feature.
You clicked on a feature that goes beyond the voter registration and now takes you into the voting history data.
And what does it tell everybody happened on November 20th on November 3rd, 2020?
Well, it looks like basically this whole big chart that we look at the grid here under voting history is essentially showing this individual's voting history as recorded in the Michigan Secretary of State's voter rolls.
And the top row here represents September 2025's voter roll snapshot.
because I get a snapshot every month.
There'll be a new row at the top every month.
Come October 1st, I'd have another row at the top.
And the reason we, and if you go back, go ahead.
So Civil War veteran Jason Lemoyne Daniel voted in the 2020 election.
Yes.
Yep, voted.
It says B here in November 2020.
B indicates voted.
And it's consistent.
It's been as voted across all previous snapshots.
But if you go back to February 2024 or January, it says absentee.
I mean, at that point, they stopped giving me the data point, the Secretary of State.
But he voted.
That's fair.
I mean, he's no longer with us, so he is absentee.
But this highlights a key point that you made, because in response to tools like checkmyvote.org, I'm sure the Secretary of State embraced you with open arms saying, thank you for helping us to clean up our voter rolls.
Isn't that what she did?
Of course.
No, she actually wants to call this information unreliable.
Well, this is directly as it appears in the voter rolls.
Anybody could go make a FOIA request, find this gentleman with this record.
And I don't know how this is unreliable, but she calls CheckMy Vote unreliable and wants people to not use it.
And he's still in the voter rolls.
And so, yeah, the thing I want to highlight is that rather than embracing this as a mechanism for cleaning up our voter rolls, the Secretary of State actually changed her policies around FOIA requests and FOIA responses so that you no longer get the method of voting anymore in your responses.
Her response was not to embrace the assistance.
She actually reacted against it, which pretty much tells you everything you need to know about where the Secretary of State of Michigan, who's now running for governor, Jocelyn Benson, sits on the topic of transparency and election integrity.
Yeah, indeed.
Because, I mean, in a past life, I used to work in big corporations.
And one of the companies I worked for back long ago, there's this thing called internal fraud and external fraud.
You know, one of the red flags with internal fraud is when an individual claims to be extremely overworked, has no resources, doesn't want to take on any other projects, but only wants to do the project that they're doing, and they will not accept help.
Because if they accept help, their jig is up.
Their game is over, right?
Because everything's going to come out.
That's exactly what's happening here.
She doesn't want any help.
But at the same time, she claims that they're thin on resources, so they can't handle these challenges that people are making to clean up border roles.
Now, that is a red flag.
I mean, if you go to any Fortune 500 company, a financial institution, or any other institution that does their internal audits and external audits, this will come up as a red flag.
Yeah, and thankfully it has turned up as a red flag now with our friends in the Department of Justice.
You know, in the wake of the amazing victory in 2024 election for President Trump, we have a new sheriff in town.
And if you could toggle back so we can see your friendly face there, Fonnie, and the Department of Justice has issued a while back, they issued some letters requesting information.
If you go to item eight there, Jeff, you know, our Secretary of State, like many other Secretaries of State around the country, were asked by, nope, that's I need item eight, and were asked by the Department of Justice to provide a set of information regarding how they manage the cleaning of our voter rolls.
And, you know, this is actually something that is required in current law under the Help America Vote Act, is that there's audits of the election systems in the states in exchange for funds that are provided under the Help America Vote Act, these election assistance grants.
And so in exchange for the money, you're supposed to be opening up your books and sharing this information with the federal government so they can make sure, to your point earlier about the guy that doesn't want any oversight, they can make sure that you're not pulling the wool over our eyes and actually faking it till you make it.
And in this case, you know, if you call up item nine, our Secretary of State, Jocelyn Benson, actually responded to the Department of Justice and essentially said, talk to the hand is what it comes down to.
All she gave them was a public information.
They did not go into the details that were requested by the Department of Justice.
They've done the same thing to the Michigan House when they've issued subpoena requests.
And our Secretary of State, Jocelyn Benson, is already on record as only following the laws she agrees with.
And if you don't like that, you can sue her.
Well, thankfully, we just had a recent development yesterday that was very welcomed by people in Michigan.
And that is that Jocelyn Benson was actually sued by the Department of Justice.
And I'll tell you, this may be a small measure of solace for you, Fonnie, but she's now getting held accountable for a lot of the attempts at obfuscation of efforts from you and many other meddling kids across the state and frankly across the country.
So what are your thoughts about the Department of Justice going after Jocelyn Benson now with a lawsuit?
I think that's the right thing to do.
That's a natural progression of events.
You know, follow the process of like, you know, Higg, you know, requested the voter rolls and the list maintenance processes.
She wasn't willing to give it to them.
Well, what's the next step?
It's logical.
Anybody would do that.
And I think that's a good move.
And I'm really heartened to see that.
And even within the publicly available voter roles, there is so many problems.
But yeah, list maintenance processes are extremely important.
That is something that they should divulge.
The Secretary of State should.
What are you hoping to see out of this legal action?
Well, I hope to see exactly what the DOJ asked for.
I hope to see how they maintain their list.
You know, what's going on with the voter rolls?
How do these things happen?
How does voting history change, for example?
How does absentee in-person flip-flop across monthly snapcharts?
How do people like Jason Lamo and Danielle even get into the system?
As you see, registration date is 2008 here.
Oh, I'm not sharing.
Yeah, the registration date for individual was 2008, so the voter registered the vote at 158 years old.
How do this get into the system?
So there's a systemic problem that would could be observed if you kind of see the list maintenance processes or anything, if they, if the secretary of state cooperates and, you know, brings some transparency to how she's maintaining the voter roles.
And something else that secretary of state Benson did recently that you and I had reviewed, is just to show you the degree to which she does not want to turn her election cards face up is that she actually tried to implement and this is currently in process implement new rules that would that not only called out check my vote as an unreliable source of information, and you got,
and she may be on to something because your source of information in turn is from her, so she may know a little bit more about the reliability of that information than we.
Maybe we give her credit for, but the but she put out a rule that specifically targeted you and actually made it virtually impossible to clean up the voter rolls.
Can you share some insights into what she was trying to do to not only take you out, but take out anybody pursuing integrity in our voter roles.
Well yeah, she's broken every law that there is and now she's got has run out of laws to break.
So she's making some rules that that kind of somehow ties the hands of challenges, for example challengers, for example, and also ties the hands of clerks who want to use check my vote to kind of look at what's going on in their precincts.
So she's making it extremely hard for the average citizen to look at voter rolls.
Even and America was an experiment in self-governance right where, where citizen involvement, people's engagement in the government, you know, oversight of the government, is extremely important she wants to cut the people and the organizations, community organizations, out of the equation which, if you look at the Election Assistance Commission's best practices guidelines for border list maintenance, it actually says that the state's SOS can use uh, should be using, in fact,
local community organizations or any citizens that are willing to help.
But she wants to cut them out of the equation because she wants to be wholly in charge of how the voter rolls are maintained.
You know that raises a lot of suspicions.
Yeah well, in fairness to her, she does involve some community organizations like ROCK THE VOTE or ERIC UM but uh, but she's not equal in that application for sure, and she won't allow the general citizenry frankly, to get access to it, which should be a concern.
Well I, I for one, want to thank you for all your efforts to go shed the light on on what is going on in Michigan voter rolls and just give you guys some quick tidbits of that.
I I truly believe that it was the efforts of Fanny Mantravati and uh, our friend Tim Veter, and uh even the folks out at Election Integrity Force that and uh helped prevent another uh stolen election in 2024, particularly our home state of Michigan.
Because you guys were monitoring another report that was provided by the secretary of state called the daily ballots cast report, and we had just had early voting adopted here in Michigan and that daily ballots cast report indicated that 125,428 illegal votes had been cast indications of multiple votes, the same voter ID casting multiple votes and you guys caught it and I like that I mean I want to give you guys credit is that this citizen involvement that you're talking about, I believe,
actually helped save our Republic in that last election.
So I want to just leave everybody with a big thank you for Fonnie and Tim and everybody else for their efforts in helping to secure the 2024 election.
Thank you Patrick, thank you for having me on all right, knock them alive.
And, once again, everybody go to checkmyvote.org and and a lot of good information there.
So um, closing out the broadcast, in the final segment I want to touch on something I think is very important, particularly because you know Mike has been.
Michael Lindell has been calling for the elimination electronic voting systems for quite some time.
He's been concerned about it.
The vulnerabilities of these machines are something that can and we believe have been exploited in the subversion of our election systems and our election results.
And recently, this week, we got new court transcripts submitted in the lawsuit or the case that is appealing the sentencing ruling against Tina Peters, our good friend, former Mesa County clerk, Mesa County, Colorado clerk, Tina Peters.
She's currently serving a nine-year prison sentence and so that sense is being an appealed and as part of that appeal, we're submitting this filing, this legal filing, as court exhibit that reflects the testimony of a whistleblower that is intimately aware and intimately familiar with how electronic voting systems have been used to subvert the integrity of the elections.
And you can go check this out for yourself.
Go to Lindelplan.com, just click on media and you'll see the story right up at the top of the page.
If you click through that story you'll see access to the actual affidavits that are submitted in this case and you can look at it.
I'm still going through um these affidavits myself.
I'm going to be putting together a couple, some snippets and clips, that kind of highlight where we've seen evidence in support of the assertions that are being made by this whistleblower, so that everybody can kind of start connecting the dots on why we need to get rid of these electronic voting systems once and for all.
And i'm hoping, like many other people in the election integrity movement, that we can ensure that uh, we have hand counts in this upcoming 2026 election.
I'm not saying hand counts by themselves guarantee election integrity, but I can tell you it takes one of the major tools that these people have used in the past to subvert the integrity of our elections off the table, and the more of those tools that we can take off the table, the better.
You know tools like checkmyvote.org can be used to to hold them accountable on the voter rolls, voter history data, and the poll book data.
The electronic voting systems are the other part of the equation that needs to get addressed.
And I just want to summarize some of the key findings that I found regarding how they actually steal elections using these electronic voting systems.
And this is directly from the testimony of this Venezuelan whistleblower in this court exhibit filed with the filed on behalf of Tina Peters.
So first and foremost, I want to call out one of the methods that they use is this, they have this data utility tool.
They call it the SAES data utility tool.
And this is a core mechanism for manipulating elections using this.
This is a SmartMatic specific utility tool.
And for those of you who don't know, the SmartMatic bone is connected to the Dominion bone per these whistleblowers.
And it's also a common DNA across a lot of our electronic voting systems using the United States.
So this is kind of a big deal to have this connection to SmartMatic.
SmartMatic itself is tied to the Venezuelan government very significantly.
And I should probably point out too that just a reminder, I talked about this in previous show, but this whistleblower that we're talking about that's supporting, coming out in support of Tina and her appeal, this guy was the national coordinator for voting machines and data situation rooms, i.e. the war rooms for the Venezuelan National Electoral Council.
These are the guys that ran their national elections in Venezuela.
He understands it inside and out.
He was directly responsible for configuring SmartMatic voting equipment, their transmission systems, and their audits.
And he oversaw the technical infrastructure for real-time monitoring, transmission, i.e. internet connections, and manipulation of election results.
So this is not just some Yahoo that hung out at the water cooler while elections were going on.
This is the guy that was right at the center of everything that was going on with the elections.
And so he went off and in these affidavits started listing all the different mechanisms that they used to subvert the elections.
And one of the central mechanisms was the use of what they called an SAES data utility that helped them modify and manipulate the data and all these election records using these SmartMatic voting systems.
Next, he went into talking about how they would exploit software vulnerabilities.
And one thing I want to point out is we always hear the topic of these vulnerabilities as a glitch.
And whenever they're discovered in the course of executing an election, they're explained away as a software error, software glitch, or configuration problem.
The thing that he was talking about in this affidavit is that this wasn't simply a glitch.
This was a feature.
So these vulnerabilities, you know, you may, you know, when you're designing an operating system like Windows or whatever, you know, whenever somebody identifies a vulnerability, Microsoft will try to go in and patch it, right?
In this case, what seems to be indicated by this whistleblower is that these vulnerabilities that would normally get patched are actually built-in design features that are designed to be exploited.
That's what is intimated in this testimony.
So that is food for thought when it comes to these electronic voting systems.
Also, one of the key things that he said, a key mechanism that they use to facilitate the cheat, highlights a common theme across a lot of the examination or forensic audits that we've had an opportunity to look at of these electronic voting systems, and that is the audit logs.
They deliberately set up these audit logs so that they don't cover the full election period.
They constantly are overwriting themselves, so you can't get any useful data.
And then he also talks about ballot image and vote data manipulation.
So this is one of the reasons why these DRE devices like the Dominion ICX, et cetera, are discouraged because anytime you look at an electronic image of a ballot rather than an actual paper physical ballot, that image can be manipulated and changed to show whatever vote that it wants you to show.
And also, he highlighted how they use remote access and actually firmware modification.
So it's not just simply a matter of what version of the software.
It's a matter of what version of the individual drivers for all the firmware on these systems is as well.
And then, of course, they delete the election records.
So guys, there's a lot more than this out there on it.
I want to encourage you to check into that Venezuela whistleblower testimony.
And we've covered a lot of ground today.
I hope it's been useful for you in understanding exactly what is really going on in our elections.
And the fact that I want to give you some hope is that, number one, we got indictments coming now.
We've got meddling kids like Fonnie Montravati going off and digging into these systems and analyzing what the true state of our election systems really is.
And then you got whistleblowers like this Venezuelan whistleblower that are finally coming forward and highlighting how these electronic voting systems can be used to subvert our elections.
It's all coming to bear now.
It's all coming to light.
This is going to be an interesting next few months here, but ultimately, I believe we're on a path to help secure this upcoming 2026 election.
And something else that I think is very important, and this is how I'd like to end the show today, it's something that I really want to remind everybody of is that there's this awakening happening in our country right now where everybody is seeking the truth, not just in elections, but in their overall lives.
And they want to find what really matters in their life.
And in the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, a lot of developments have happened.
But I want to end the show with what I believe is one of the most powerful developments.
And it comes in the wake of an altar call by Pastor Rob McCoy, who is Charlie Kirk's pastor.
And so I'd just like to close out today's show on what the real impact of Charlie Kirk's life truly was.
While believers are seated, if there's any in this room and across the globe that would desire to receive Jesus as their Savior, as Charlie did as a young man, and now is in the presence of his Savior, I'm going to ask you to put action to your faith.
And I'd ask you to stand right now to receive the Lord.
Don't be ashamed.
Stand.
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He is the greatest.
My pillow guy.
Mike Lindell.
And he's been with us right from the beginning.
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