Sept. 23, 2025 - The Lindell Report - Mike Lindell
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Charlie Kirk’s Legacy & Jimmy Kimmel Is BACK?! - The Mike Lindell Show
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You ever see this guy with the pillows on fox, my pillow guy, Mike Lindell?
He is the greatest and my pillow guy, Mike Lindell, and he's been with us right from the beginning.
Hello everyone and welcome to the Mike Lindell show here.
Um, uh, we're gonna talk about uh the last week with the amazing revival that's going on in our country with the uh with with uh the Christian Jesus Christ revival, and we're also gonna talk about uh Jimmy Kimmel possibly.
Well, I guess he is coming back tonight.
Um, so um, but before we do that, let's uh is uh is Allison available.
Yep, yep, go ahead and break, let's bring in Allison and get the show started.
Allison, how are you doing?
Hi, Bike.
I'm doing great.
How are you today?
I'm doing really good.
It's my uh first day back here after all the uh um the Charlie Kirk Memorial and and uh everything that happened last week.
One of the things I want to do to get you on what you're and your take on, you know, what's manifested from this horrible, horrible assassination and tragedy.
Charlie was a friend of mine.
He was the things he was doing for everybody, for the country, for people was just amazing.
And, but God uses all things for good.
And boy, he might, he wanted him up there in heaven with him, but he certainly he knew.
And I predicted this about a week and a half ago.
And this happened when I was actually doing my show.
And when that happened, I go, you know what?
I was praying it would manifest to the biggest revival, I believe, ever.
And I think that's what we're seeing.
I mean, have you seen, what's your thoughts on that?
Have you ever seen anything like this?
Never in my life.
It is truly incredible.
I mean, I think it's the perfect example of what the enemy intended for evil is now being used for good.
And all glory to God that we are seeing this incredible just turn in our country, a complete U-turn.
People are actually repenting for the first time in their lives.
People who have never been to church a day in their lives are actually going to church now.
Many people purchasing a Bible for the first time in their lives.
It is truly incredible to see.
You know, I think the most incredible part of it all is that during the memorial, that was just so beautiful, by the way, just so, so wonderful to see that stadium packed to the gills with so many good American patriots who truly, you know, support everything that Charlie did, are there to honor his life and his legacy.
We saw that stadium packed with so many great patriots, but we also heard from our leaders, virtually everyone in the Trump administration who spoke so boldly for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
I have never heard that from any administration in my life.
And to hear that come out from that memorial, from our fearless leaders was just so incredibly impactful to me, something that I've never witnessed.
And I think, you know, is really also responsible for this huge shift that we are seeing in our nation.
I've seen multiple posts from people in other countries who are saying, you know, be so grateful in America that you live in a country where your leaders talk about this.
One guy posted that he lives in Britain and he's like, it's always just such a glorious, like two minutes when the Queen of England briefly talks about Jesus on Christmas Day.
That's the only time you'll ever hear it.
But in America, our leaders are having these conversations openly for the world to hear.
It is truly incredible.
My other favorite part of the memorial was the speech that, of course, Erica Kirk gave.
It was absolutely beautiful.
And the fact that she went up on stage and addressed the nation in such an elegant way, but also such an impactful way.
She went up there and said, despite everything that has happened, despite this horrific tragedy that never should have happened in the first place, because we are called to do so, because the Lord calls us to forgive, she forgives the murderer of Charlie Kirk.
Yeah, that was incredible.
I mean, the reaction to this versus, you know, they've shown so many reactions.
Like here's the summer of 2020 when around the world, the horrible protests and fires and everything and burning down of cities and murders and everything because of the George Floyd.
And then you show with this, it's just an outpouring of love.
And for her to forgive, forgive the assassin.
I mean, that was like so moving.
But there's other things too.
I've seen around the world, everybody.
This is everywhere from London to Australia.
I'm getting texts and stuff from all over the country, or I mean, all over the world.
I know people in different countries and they're texting me going, this has moved everybody, not just here in the U.S. to Jesus.
This is a worldwide revival.
And that was one of my biggest surprises was watching all of them, virtually every one of them, their focus was on Jesus Christ.
I mean, even Don Jr., who said, you know, he puts out, and I heard a couple people, oh, he made a, you know, he kind of made a joke in the beginning.
But no, he needed to say that because he's the one, you know, for Don Jr. to come out and say, hey, I'm usually one known for making, for doing, you know, memes and saying things outlandish on social media.
where to the point where his dad has to say, you know, hey, hey, back off a little bit on your social media.
That's like, wow, right.
And what he was trying to say is, hey, this is who I am, but this is what I haven't told you who I am.
And he spoke out about the revival of Jesus Christ.
And that's what Charlie would, you know, he was very good friends with Charlie.
They were very close.
He's the one that introduced me to Charlie Kirk.
Donald Trump Jr. introduced me to Charlie Kirk back in the day, I think, I don't know, let's say 2017, somewhere in there.
And he said, you two need to meet.
He said, you guys are the most.
And he used the word Christian conservatives.
That's what Don Jr., I'd never seen two people like this.
And so, you know, they, but for him to say it, get out there and say it.
And virtually everyone that went up there, you're going, wow.
And that was also mocked, by the way, by this David Pachman.
He is a horrible, you guys, podcaster, very horrible podcaster.
He's another one I pray for.
Maybe back in the day, which we're going to talk about, Jimmy Kimmel, back in the day when I said, I'm praying for Jimmy Kimmel.
He got on stage, I don't know, four or five years ago.
He goes, you think Mike Mendel really prays for me?
When I was just, I took offense to all the stuff he was saying and I put it out in my speeches at churches and stuff.
But just David Pachman, I've been on his show twice too, at least twice, maybe three times, but he just spews it's evil, it's hatred.
And it's one thing to be on one side or the other politically, but when hatred comes out of your mouth, and what he said, he mocked the whole Christian, the theme of the whole event was what Charlie wanted was to be known for one thing, and that was his courage for his faith in Jesus Christ.
So, you know, those, but I was very encouraged.
I mean, this, you talk about someone's, you know, death being not in vain.
I mean, this thing just went everywhere.
And you talk about millions getting saved.
And this, and that's kind of what, you know, what Erica, her take is like, I think that's what she has to look at.
Like, cause people, people have said to me, how can she be so courageous and just get up there?
And, you know, you know, a lot of people say, well, I would just be falling apart.
I would be just, you know, I couldn't take anything, couldn't handle it, you know.
And we don't know.
I mean, facing something like this, but she has Jesus.
And that's why if she didn't have that, I look at people that don't have God, don't have Jesus Christ.
And what they do is, you know, when things like this happen or when you're looking for hope.
And, you know, and this is where we're at.
And this is where when we've said it from the beginning, this is a spiritual battle of good and evil of biblical proportions.
This isn't just a, you know, a little blip in history.
This is historical and biblical.
This is beyond anything we could ever imagine.
When I said years ago, when I was at, when I spoke from the Rose Garden, one of the things I said, and this was in everybody, this was, I believe it was March of 2020, of 2020, and right before the China virus.
And I said, a nation has turned its back on God.
We have took God out of our schools and all this stuff that I said.
And we need to pray for grace for such a time as this, get back in the word, get back in our Bibles.
And God's given us grace.
This is all these last four and a half years since that time or five years since that day, right before the virus, everyone's going, well, Mike, this doesn't feel like grace.
This is what it's here for.
These are times where people can go out.
And I said it last week.
This is where you're going to have that.
There's no time like the present to have that go back and talk to your family members, your neighbor, whoever it is, your friends, maybe your best friends, but you differ, you know, to ministry to them.
You know, they're looking for hope.
They don't see that.
They have blinders on.
They're brainwashed.
They're completely brainwashed.
And we see this with all these people that put out hatred on social media and they got fired by their employees, as I'm going to do the second half of this show about Jimmy Kimmel.
But don't you see, Allison, I think, for one thing, if you're a pastor and you're an evangelist in this time, if you can't get people to the Lord right now, there's something wrong.
You're in the wrong profession, okay?
Because you should be able to, I agree.
You know, any argument, any argument, just like Charlie did all the time.
One of the things about Charlie, what amazed me about him, and I did many events with him, many, many speaking events where he would, the one that really stands out in my mind is, I believe it was a Flashpoint event and it was a big, big arena, but he got up there and I didn't expect what his, I didn't, you know, I'm all about, you know, securing our elections.
And this is backing a couple of years ago, getting rid of the machines and everything, which, by the way, everybody, we have to do.
Y'all know that.
I'll never change on that.
And we're working hard on that.
But Charlie got up there for probably, I don't know, it was maybe a half hour, 45 minute speech.
And he just put out everything about Jesus, but it was like, he's so factual.
He knew every single piece of that Bible that, you know, it was like just amazing.
My mouth dropped.
I mean, it got me closer to God just listening to him because, and I want to tell you something too.
I had it.
He reminded me of a friend of mine's, his son passed away very unexpectedly, about, I think it was like 20, 22, 23 years old.
It was a tragic, tragic death.
But this guy was a genius.
He had an IQ of 184.
Okay.
I'm sure Charlie's was off the charts too.
But he had an IQ of 184.
But one of the things that I said at his funeral, I said, and his mom and dad started crying during the funeral because I said this.
I said, you know what?
I said, his name was Ted.
And I said, you know what Ted told me and my wife back in the day, he said, he's very analytical, you know, and he said, there is only one religion that is proven, and that's Christianity.
And this guy would come, he was a genius and knew, you know, peace.
And he said, I said, what?
And I remember talking to him for over an hour how science and everything else proved Christianity.
He would have all these facts and was like, and that's what I never see anyone like him until I seen Charlie with these, you know, that always impressed me where, you know, him going around to these colleges and stuff wasn't just, you know, the main focus, the underlying thing was to get people to Jesus.
And what a, what a, you know, normally we would say, wow, it's, you know, everything was lost in that moment of time, but no, it just expanded.
You said it the best, but God, what the devil used for evil, God's using for good.
And his wife knows that.
You know, her being her courageous during this time, say, you know, and being, she's, I believe, you know, we didn't, you know, I think she came to one of the events I had, and I didn't even know her back then.
I don't know her personally, but they, but you see who she is.
I mean, I believe if there's anyone capable of going and continuing on as a leader with that, it's her.
I mean, it was just, didn't you think that?
And, and, but, but I'm just, you know, for for what you, you know, you said too, is you're seeing these people for the first time, maybe taking that step.
You know, I liked it when that pastor got up at the, at the event there at the memorial and said, you know, everybody stand up and ask Jesus into your heart.
And there are many people got saved right there on the spot.
You know, I believe, you know, this is saving millions from around the world.
But I'm just saying that they, you know, this is not going to be just a little blip in history here.
But, you know, this will be out of the news by next week.
No, it's going to live on.
I think that with Turning Point, they've had all these chapters.
We just had one yesterday at Minneapolis.
The other things that Charlie warned us about was Islam, Islamic, you know, and he warned us about that.
And in Minneapolis, we just had yesterday.
They went ahead and had the 30-point event in Minneapolis.
And that's my home state.
And we, you know, we've got a big problem there with there's many wanting Sharia law.
We have our downtown mosque.
Our governor let the mosque ring out for Allah, the only place in the United States five times a day where the Christian churches, he shut them down during the China virus.
And it's a battle there that I know Charlie has brought up many times, but he had he had the facts for that too, where he could argue someone saying, you know, someone that is caught up in that or whatever.
And he would sit there and just, he had to have like a photographing memory because I don't, you know, you know, I think, oh, no, no, no, here's the fact.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know.
It was just amazing.
I mean, I go back and I listen to his, many of his conversations that he had with these young kids on campus.
And, you know, they would ask some pretty ridiculous questions at times, but it was so incredible to me how he was always able to turn it back to Jesus with, you know, historical Evidence that can be found in the Bible.
This is apologetics.
If anyone needs any more reasons to believe, then go check out Evidence That Demands a Verdict.
That is an incredible book that highlights, you know, all of the historical evidence that there is that Jesus is real and that he died and arose again for us to save us from this dark and evil, wicked world.
And he will come back again for us as well.
But I think it just, it's just so incredible to go back and watch some of his old videos and see how he had such an impact on this younger generation, a generation that is so lost, so absorbed in the wicked ways of the world, these just worldly ways that have taken over so much of the younger generation.
And to turn them to Jesus and now turning the world really to Jesus is so incredible.
You mentioned something earlier, Mike, that really was impactful.
And you said, I don't understand how people can have hope without Jesus.
And I actually want to speak to that personally because I, before I knew Jesus, I was completely hopeless.
I mean, I was nearly 30 years old when I finally was saved.
And I was so lost in just living this horrible life of sin.
And I just was, you know, I didn't have any hope.
I was totally hopeless.
In fact, I have no hope tattooed on my hands because I just didn't care anymore.
I didn't think there was a hope or a future for me.
But then the Lord came in and he radically saved me and changed my life just supernaturally.
I mean, no one could ever explain it other than the fact that Jesus absolutely saves.
And now I know that through him, we have both a hope and a future that is actually stated very clearly in the Bible.
And so if I can do it, I just want to encourage everyone else out there that the Lord loves you so much and you just need to, you know, give him a chance, turn to him, form a personal relationship with him because he can just change your life in ways you never even thought possible.
And I think we're seeing that play out in real time now.
And it's just really brings me to tears of joy to know that this is happening in our nation and around the world, as you mentioned, Mike.
Absolutely.
And, you know, that's, you said it, Beth.
So I think you guys, you all know my story, everybody.
I was a former crack addict.
You know, God saved me.
And, you know, that we have the Lindelrecovery Network.org, which brings people out of addiction to Jesus.
That's just a bonus getting out of addiction.
The big win is getting to Jesus.
And by the way, the Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota, is attacking that head on.
Right now, we've been served.
We have to go out and get lawyers to try.
He's trying to get that shot down.
It's the C3 Lindelrecovery Network.org.
But that's a whole nother episode.
We'll talk about that probably coming up very soon.
I want to tell you with Charlie, one of the things with him is it didn't matter.
He had a gift.
He was just pulling the Lord.
And from the time I knew him, it just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger with him.
You know, you're going, wow, if you didn't see him in three months, he changed even more so of God being more God gave me more to Jesus.
No, it was amazing.
But I've watched those videos now and as people have around the world, by the way, everybody keeps sharing, sharing, sharing.
It didn't matter what the topic was and what the attack was.
He had a knack of just sitting there and he would listen and he would bring it around.
You know, I respect that, but here's my view.
Here's my view.
That was the beauty of Charlie Kirk that he would, he would get people, he wouldn't offend them when they're just talking.
If they got frustrated, it's because they didn't even know what to say to argue back.
And that's where we're at.
We're in a time, that's why I said earlier, anybody you're talking to, and they say, oh, don't mix politics and God, whatever.
Well, that's not true.
This is all come about.
Everything that's come about is just this big awakening and this big revival.
It goes back to politics, everybody.
It goes back to the 2020, by the way, election, maybe even before the thing started happening in our country long before that, where it's opened people's eyes and they're going, Okay, this doesn't make sense.
When we talk about common sense, um, you know, common sense and morality and everything else, it goes back to the Bible.
You know, I mean, a lot of this is just like you know, um, the Ten Commandments.
I mean, and I tell people all the time, I said, you know, people, I think people look back and they say, you know, we, um, Mike, you know, I prayed, right?
They don't come true.
A lot of these, and you've seen that with Charlie.
Um, and now this is my own that I always say to people, but um, people that would come up there and they'd say, you know, I prayed or I did this, or I don't believe in your God.
Why would your God do this?
Why would you, you know, why would Jesus do this?
I read in the Bible, they'll cherry-pick something out of the Bible and say, look what he did here in the Old Testament, and then you, but they don't have the big picture.
Well, I tell people all the time that you know, they say, you know, I pray that this they'll make prayers, and I've said it before on the show, that that don't happen, that don't come to fruition.
And going, okay, it might not be God's timing or God's will.
And I always tell people this: well, where is God's will?
God's will is in the word.
And if you, anyone out there, you know, if you stay in the word, okay, that's where God's will is.
And then they, and then you can be proactive in prayer and they line up beautifully.
I would almost 100% say that, like Erica, she her proactive and she's praying to get through this.
And then, you know, agreed, and she can see already see a vision to carry on what Charlie's done in all this, this revival.
It's because she's in the word.
She prays, you know, like we do.
You know, I pray about all these decisions I have.
I always go back for me.
It's in my book, is Proverbs 3:56.
Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, but always acknowledge him and he will guide your past.
You know, I was taking some pretty bad paths.
It sounds like you were too, Allison.
You know, the and a bad path, everybody can just feel it, be feeling hopeless, be feeling hopeless.
It's a bad path you're taking where there is hope.
And so this has been a great thing for that's going to be manifest too.
And I know one of the things that people, you watch social media now, one of the things that got so big, and I've said it before, is our voice, everybody.
Our voice now is the biggest it's ever been with all the social media platforms.
You're not listening to just a few stations brainwashing us or brainwashing people or one-sided social media when you go back just a few years ago and you got sucker books, Facebook, and YouTube, and that's basically those two just, you know, brainwashing you.
And now we've got so many other platforms and Jack Dorsey's Twitter, which now you have Elon's ex and but all these platforms in order for Charlie's word, you know, you think if you went back just five years, if this same thing happened back then, you would not have the megaphone that God has now to spread this all over the world instantly.
I mean, it's viral.
It doesn't matter which platform you're on, Getter, Gab, Truth, Vocal, Lindel TV, the, you know, now Elon's X, even Suckerbooks Facebook has to put the stuff out there now because everybody else is doing it.
You follow me?
Now, everyone has argued the point.
And I want to know your, you know, the point that, you know, these people are getting called out by their employers and they're getting fired for these, for the hate coming out of their mouths.
And, you know, and I've said it before, there's, you know, there's, yeah, it's free speech, but there's also the employer has their, they're representing their employer.
So that's up to the, this is the employer.
I have people at my pillow that went out back in the day.
And it takes a lot for me to let someone go.
And I said, I told it before, I had two employees and one of them went out there with this hate and it was so bad online.
This is a few years ago.
And I had to fire him.
I had to let him go.
And I grew up with this kid.
I was like, you know, an uncle to the guy, basically.
But then another person that was on the left, they never put out anything.
They didn't put this stuff on social media.
They kept their, you know, kept it to themselves when it came to representing as an employee.
And of course, when Donald Trump got elected, they took a week off to cry their eyes out, which was ridiculous.
But my point being is these are employers.
And just like it happened to me back in 2021 when all the box stores decided to cancel me.
It wasn't a lot of them did it out of fear because they have feared they thought that the public was coming after them when it was actually box and trolls and so on that were attacking the real people did not want that.
Well, just like we have now with the Jimmy Kimball, and I'm going to transition into that.
Allison, I don't know if you want to stay on for this or if you've got to go, it's up to you.
Yeah, I can stay on if you'd like me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, Steve.
Yeah, absolutely.
So when back in 2021, everybody, and we had this the other day, Jimmy Kimball, in fact, I think we have the clip.
Let me see.
I think we have, Jeff, we have the clip for the introduction when he, when he first asked me to be on his show, if you could play that.
Yeah, here we go.
Mike seemed pretty psyched about my invite, and it seems like it's probably going to happen.
Hold on, hold on.
He even invited Lindell to come on his show in person for an interview in bed surrounded by pillows.
Just me and Mike snuggled up side by side at California Sabrine by Saxon Gustav.
Jimmy, I'll do that, but not the goose feathers.
Yeah, goose feathers are bashing you.
Your cervical nerve.
No, seriously, your cervical nerves.
You need my pillows patented fill.
All right.
Well, all right.
Well, I don't know.
I was being crippled by goose feathers without.
I'm going to try to make the whole interview about geese.
I'll take you up on that.
I will come live on your show with one of my Cal, what does he got here?
California, California King.
I will bring it there.
The brand new bed we're just launching.
I will absolutely do that.
We'll bring in pillows.
You can keep the pillows.
I'll give your whole audience pillows, Jimmy, if you pull this off.
Oh, oh, now you're awake.
Okay.
Now, now, this was, you guys, this was the spring of 2021.
And the background to this or the back story on this was I was being attacked.
I was, as I held up my hand, said, the 2020 election was stole.
We need to get rid of the machines.
It was all done with computers.
And I'm raising my hand as I'm getting canceled by every box store, Twitter, my pillows, Twitter.
My pillow's getting canceled by shopping channels.
I'm getting attacked every day by the media.
But during that time, I was still doing what I thought, what I believe my calling was when I came out of addiction.
I was speaking in church events and stuff where I'm going, and I said at the events, because I knew Jimmy had been mocking me every night on his show.
And I said, and I called him out, and I thought, I really thought his last name was Kimball instead of Kimball.
I didn't know him.
So I would say, Jimmy Kimball.
And I said, I'm praying for you, Jimmy.
I said, I'm praying for Jimmy Kimball.
And this is my reaction because people were asking me as he kept attacking.
Well, he came back and said, do you think Mike really praying for me?
And so I had, as you see, that was the birth back then of Lindell TV back then.
You see me and Brandon Howells.
Now, as this went back and forth, played out in the media, because the media was actually, we got this back and forth.
And then Jimmy says, you know, well, I'll have Mike on, but we're going to be in a California King Bad hero through his fellows.
You know, he made a mock, and he didn't think I'd take him up on it.
And why did I take him up on it, everybody?
Because I wanted to get the word out.
Remember, Fox News, Newsmax, and Salemedia, they all went silent on us with lawfare.
And then the rest of it was just attack media.
I didn't care if I got humiliated, whatever would happen, because I knew once you'd see what I've seen and know what I know, you don't stop to get the word out.
That's why you've got Tina Peters in prison for nine years, a gold star mom, you know, a clerk that just did her job, but she's not going to say, oh, I didn't see that.
And I don't know anything about that.
Like if he would have done that and just backed off, she wouldn't have got anything.
It would just go away, you guys.
But once you see the evil and see what's been done, you never want to back off.
You won't.
I would expect anyone that would do what I did back then.
So I go on Jimmy Kimball.
We had that show last week and he drilled me with trying to destroy me at that time.
And we got to halfway through in a commercial.
And Jimmy says, I said to Jimmy, Jimmy, why are you, you know, why are you doing this when we should be uniting the country?
I said, this stuff is real.
This really happened.
And I said, they did blackface like they, you know, and they tried to attack you, by the way, which they're bringing up videos of him doing that again right now, as you know.
And Jimmy said to me, he goes, well, Mike, the difference is I did something really bad.
All you did was back a man you believe in, meaning Donald Trump.
So at that time, I thought, you know, there's a little sliver of, and Jimmy had read my book, so I thought he was a little torn.
And I did pray for him daily.
And I'm going, there's got to be more to that guy deep down, right?
Well, four and a half years go by and he just kept attacking.
Some of the attacks on me were so sick, it was disgusting.
It crossed the line where he mocked God, he mocked Jesus.
And I'd sit there and go, Jimmy, you crossed the line there.
And now we sit.
And then about, was it two years ago?
He, or no, I guess even more than that, he says, when the China virus got over with, or towards the end, he didn't want me on his show.
And I said, I'll come back on your show.
And he said, he was, he said it on his show.
He said, Mike's not vaccinated.
So the only way you could come back and he's on his show is if you go inside the claw machine, the carnival game across the street.
And I got on my show and said, absolutely, I'll do that.
And then, which turned out to be, and we're going to show, I want to show some of that right now.
How that, you know, he thought one of the things he thought was that this was going to humiliate, you know, just it was going to be just mockery, whatever.
And everyone, you know, just mock me and whatever and more continued attack.
But just like the first one, this one backfired even more because it sent two messages, everybody, to the country.
One is I'm still fighting to secure our elections because if the media wasn't attacking me, you didn't know this, right?
So, and the other thing was he actually gave Lindel TV, which he attacked all the time, everybody, but he actually liked the programming here at Lindel TV.
He goes, it's entertaining or whatever.
So, but this backfired on him too, I believe.
And everyone's going, Mike, why would you sit inside a crane game?
This crane game was real, everybody.
But one of the things when I got there is my wife and I were in the green room, and Jimmy did an opening monologue that was so mocking me, but it showed everything that I had done, Allison, up to that point from paper.
I got the paper showing him how paper was secure, but he put these clips together, and it would make me look like some crazy scientist, right?
And which was fine.
But what he did was one of the things when I go on, when I go on a show, especially that it was my probably the biggest show when I was seen by millions upon millions.
And he took the nerve, the part I get where I'm nervous is where, am I going to get everything said?
I got to make sure that I, you know, what to leave in, what to leave out.
I'm only going to have this much time.
Well, he matched me so much in the monologue that I didn't.
I could be peaceful and calm.
I could actually be calm and go, wow, he already said it all for me.
He already did it.
And so I get, you guys, I want to show you inside this machine.
I want to show a little bit, then I'm going to cut in each time like I did the other day.
And let's watch a little of this, Allison.
All the colorful unhinged characters who've come to prominence in the political era of Donald Trump, our next guest is probably the most enthusiastic to help him overcome his debilitating fear of machines.
We have installed him inside a claw machine for his interview tonight.
Joining us now from the corner of Donkey Kong and Q Bert, the My Pillow Guy, Mike Lindell.
Hello, Mike.
Jimmy Crumble, is that you?
It's me.
Well, Mike, first question, Mike, is why do you think people don't take you seriously?
Well, you know, I want to tell you this, Jimmy.
Remember when we were kids and we questioned these carnival games, whether they were rigged or not?
Yeah, right.
But when we spoke up back then, we didn't get sued, did we?
No, that's right.
Hey, Mike, get rid of that kid.
Will you give him a toy or something like that?
There you go.
You got a winner.
It's a rig game.
A rig game.
It's a big game.
Mike, I know that you're distrustful of machines.
Okay.
I mean, raise my hand, everybody.
So Jeff gets this right.
I want to comment each time.
So, Allison, when I went in there, like I said, I have such a piece and I prayed before I went on his show so hard that I could just basically have fun with it, you guys, because what you're not seeing Is everything he did in the monologue?
It told the whole country and the whole world that we, my teams and myself, had not given up on getting rid of these electronic voting machines.
And so I thought when I go, Jimmy, if you had a fake mic on there for years, calling him all kinds of names where, and it's like, he goes, you know, Jimmy Crumble, is that you?
This guy, you guys, there was no rehearsal.
This was live.
It's a real cream game.
I'm sitting inside this game and these other arcade games there.
And you see that little kid, people, I was just, I was having fun with it, going, it's a rigged game, kid.
It's a rigged game.
But the point I made there, if you heard it, was right away out of the gate, it kind of put me a little bit on the offense because Jimmy actually was, you know, thought it was funny when I'm going, hey, we didn't get sued, did we?
When we questioned these carnival games, just like when you question our elections with the electronic voting machines, which we pay for, everybody, our government, we pay for these.
We pay for these corrupt things you can't look inside.
These corrupt tools that are used.
Yeah, yeah, and thank you.
And that, and these were all, that was all God.
It was like he gave me, as you watch me, as we get into this, and as we're going to watch some more, and as I'm sitting in there, it's like when you do, when I would do a show, like back in the day when I'd be on the shopping channel selling my pillow, it just started to flow.
And I'm going, wow, this is going so good.
And I don't even know the reactions coming out of one of the things too, everybody.
When you when the truth is the truth and you don't have to lie, it's easy.
You don't have to rehearse.
You don't have to practice.
It just, it is what it is.
And one of the things you're going to hear Jimmy say here is, Mike, I really believe that you believe what you're saying.
This was so important because the whole world believed that.
Now, you guys, I'm still getting sued for over $2 billion by two of the voting machines, Smart Manic and Dominion.
And the lawsuit I just had in one of the lawsuits that I've won with my pillow in Colorado, they actually brought, we tried to bring in evidence saying one of the things of deflamation, you have to believe you're putting out something that's false.
And the jury says, well, we believe he believes when he was saying, of course, I believe it.
I don't just wake up one day and go, you know what?
I'm a successful pillow salesman.
I've been taught thousands of jobs.
I went from a crack addict to a billion-dollar company back in the day.
I was worth $100 million.
It's all gone now with the money.
But, you know, those miracles then, I didn't just wake up one day and go, you know what?
I'm going to throw it all away because I want to attack some voting machine companies.
You know, I mean, I had never voted in my life, Allison.
I had never voted in my life.
I was a crack addict until I met Donald Trump in the summer of 2016 by a divine appointment.
I'm going, you know, I never voted up to then.
I didn't think politics mattered in our lives.
You know, it's smoke and crack.
I'm going, it doesn't affect me.
And then we go to find out that it affects everything we do, everybody.
And so let's continue with this.
And I'll comment as we go.
Distrustful of machines.
Now that you're inside one, do you feel differently?
No, same thing.
There are computers can be rigged out there.
Absolutely.
In elections, you know that.
Did you ask Donald Trump whether you should do this or not?
Do you run this sort of thing by him?
No, I didn't, Jimmy.
I did this all on my own.
I wanted to be on your show.
You kept telling me to come on, but I see the monologue there.
You said it's because to put me in here because I wasn't vaccinated.
You tricked me.
Did it to be funny huh yeah no, I didn't.
No, I didn't want you in there because you weren't vaccinated.
I don't know, to be honest, I don't even remember why I decided you should be in there.
You know, you said it on your show.
It seemed like a, yeah, this is a big point.
This one's a big point in the show Allison, because Jimmy Kimball lied to the nation and the world right there.
That was a big lie.
He got on his stage uh, like three months prior, and said, Mike Lindell's been, you know, saying he wants to come back on the show, but he's been back, he hasn't been vaccinated, we won't let him back on.
And then he said one night he said you know what, if he jumped in the claw machine, if he got in there, then we will have him back on because he hasn't been vaccinated.
So what he did right there in his monologue, he lied and said that he just asked me to come on as a thing and come inside, sit inside a claw machine.
Oh yeah, you know, you said it because I wasn't vaccinated.
So he wanted to lie, which he did.
He absolutely lied there and that was the one thing I called him out about right after this show aired back in uh, back in the day, and um, because I think he, you know, he knew darn well that he said that, but I suppose he didn't, you know that would have took away.
Like, why is Mike Lindella sitting inside a claw machine?
You know, you know, and this is where this is where evil, this is where evil backfires on him, by him.
It actually made people.
It made people think, now, why would Mike Lindell come on and sit inside a claw machine?
Did you run this by Donald Trump?
I mean, you're humiliating yourself in front of millions sitting inside a claw machine, but the point is people knew me by then.
I don't care, we had to get the word out.
I don't care, I think i've been.
When I came out and said they said to me back in the day, Mike, will you just tell people you had addiction issues?
And i'm going no, i'm going to tell them I was on crack, cocaine.
You know I was on so many vices that cigarettes were number five.
I mean, I mean, it doesn't it.
It didn't matter the truth if you tell the truth.
That's why the media, I think, could never really attack me for the past, even though Jimmy tried to mock.
My addictions, you know, is Mike back smoking, crack again blah blah, blah and stuff like that.
People took offense to that because it was.
It's very serious people that are in addiction to get them up and get them to Jesus.
But um um anyway, are you seeing this for the first time?
Have you ever seen this claw thing?
Oh, i've seen it before and it is just brilliant.
It's my favorite interview of all time.
It's the only interview i've ever watched of Jimmy Kimmels, but you did such a fantastic job, you knocked it out of the park and I think all glory to God on that, as you said, because I think he was definitely over you because again, what the enemy you intended for evil, god used for good and that is used for good.
Right yes yeah, thank you, and you guys, the reason we're showing this, they la yesterday now, when ABC and Disney agreed to have Jimmy back on tonight.
The media all over the weekend they were talking about there's only one person.
In the last I think it was five or six years that Jimmy has even allowed on his show.
That's on the right, and that was me and uh, And so let's continue.
Let's continue on.
New York Post article all about you.
Right.
And Jimmy had me on.
You think he had me on because he thought this would be great entertainment?
He had me on both times that ABC and Disney, two of the most evil companies, wanted to destroy me.
The deep state globalists and the devil wanted to finally put the, especially the first time.
By the second time around, people knew I was never, the evil knew I was never going to shut up and never will until these machines are melted down and turned into prison bars.
So during this time, by the way, everybody, these are times when the media wasn't even, they would take, they would rest because they wouldn't attack me because I'd like being attacked because that's how I could get the word out every single day.
When the attack stopped, I'm going, what am I going to do to get back out there?
This was the claw machine.
This was then.
And let's keep going.
Surprised when you said you would do it, but you know, I put it out there.
And so you said yes.
So, you know, I'm honoring that commitment that I made on the air.
So last week, Mike, you actually during the weekend, you ran for chairman of the Republican National Committee.
This is the committee that is kind of in charge of fundraising.
It decides where the money goes.
It's a very powerful group.
And you seemed, by my account, very confident that you had a chance to win this thing.
Let's look at the tape.
I'm running for chairman of the RNC and I plan on winning.
And you know what?
I plan on winning.
I want to win that RNC chair ahead in every single poll out there.
I'm 100% all in.
And when I go all in, I go all in to win.
I just want to win, everybody.
How am I going to win, but we're going to, it's going to change real fast.
Are you confident that you can win?
Yeah, absolutely.
A lot of them are going, do you think you can win?
Do you think you can win?
Of course I'm going to win.
Mike, some of the polls show you winning this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, they all do.
Now, Mike, the poll actually did show you as the favorite, right?
The Rasmussen poll.
That's correct.
Yep.
And then this happened.
Mike Lindell received four votes.
Harmett Dylan received 51 votes.
And Rona McDaniel received 111 votes.
Now, does this seem like an indication that maybe your barometer when it comes to voting is off?
No, what it seems like, Jimmy, is that the RNC did, that their representatives didn't listen to the people of our country that wanted a change in the RNC leadership because I was the top of all the polls.
I almost doubled both of them combined in the Rasmussen report, which came out last Thursday, the day before the vote.
So they, you know, I didn't realize that they, you know, that they would, I would think that they would have went with what the people wanted because they represent the people.
Do you believe this was a rigged election too?
No, absolutely not, Jimmy, because there was no machines involved.
It was paper ballots and counted.
Okay.
To me, you guys, there was so much in that right there that I got to tell you, I'll say, I got to unwrap that.
I mean, did you hear that?
Absolutely.
It was a great poll.
Let's take it in reverse.
It was paper ballots and counted.
Yes, that was the real thing.
What's hidden in there, which I said, was the poll came out.
Remember, you guys, 168 representatives at the RNC, three from each state and territories, okay?
They're supposed to listen to the people in their states.
They did a poll the day before and I doubled Harmee Dylan and Ronald McDaniel.
That's what I said.
So they didn't listen to the people.
I went there and did my speech.
They were so afraid of me winning the RNC chair.
Those 168, you would not have believed.
I could do a show that would last for a week to tell you what I went through back then.
Now, did I win?
Everybody, here's the thing.
What is winning?
I couldn't have asked for a better thing that came out of there, which I wanted to come out of.
God told me to run.
He never said I was going to win.
I will tell you that right now.
I even told my wife that when we prayed about it back then.
But here's what happened.
I wanted to get the RNC on board with paper ballots hand countered.
And I used Ronna McDaniel, Harmee Dillon.
That was another story.
But Ronna McDaniel actually eventually helped.
And she was the one that everybody was after, that they would spent all this money at the RNC on this.
I didn't care about all that.
What I cared about was getting them and their donors and the RNC on board with to saving our country and getting the paper ballots hand countered.
Well, you guys, here's what manifested on me running for the RNC.
Seven months later, in August, okay, in August, the RNC passed a resolution.
Here's what it says.
Paper ballots, hand-counted, same-day voting, voter ID, precinct level, everything you would want in the most perfect election in the world.
That's all on the books.
That was in August of 23 when that got put on there, everybody.
So who really won?
We have referenced this so many times.
And now could it all be switched over by the 2024 election?
Obviously, it did, but a lot of it made big headway.
And where we're at now is a lot of the stuff that we, the seeds that were planted back then.
The RNC completely changed hands.
We had Matt Watley and Laura Trump.
I mean, that took over then.
There was a big shift in that.
There's so much corruption in there that I'm not going to sit here and name the ones I met, but they show their ugly head.
I'm going, you know, it was like ridiculous.
You had a third bad, a third good, and then these middle group that didn't know which way to go, but their donors were just getting cheated out of, you know, millions of dollars.
So there's a, you know, was it a win or not?
And Allison, I don't know what you thought.
That segment right there was, I think I kind of threw it back in Jimmy's face.
Don't you agree?
Yeah, absolutely.
You totally did.
He was trying to get you and I gotcha, and you just highlighted the truth.
No, you used it to further promote your message that we want single-day voting, hand-counted, paper ballot.
Like that's all it is.
It's not some crazy, far-fetched conspiracy like he's attempting to make it out to be.
You just further cemented your brilliant point and you did it better than I could have ever imagined.
Brilliant work.
Yeah, and thanks.
I really like when, I really like when the, well, yeah, do you trust this election, Mike?
Well, yeah, it was paper ballots hand counted.
What's not to trust, Jimmy?
And I hope he's watching.
I actually hope he's watching right now because I'm going to stick in a thing here.
Do I can I'll say it at the end too.
Yes, I continue to pray for Jimmy Kimmel.
And but let's keep rolling it.
I want to make sure we get it all in because I want to, we've got about 10 minutes, but let's keep going.
You lost, you would have lost either way, I guess is what you're saying.
Well, I don't know if I have machines, somebody could have filled with the numbers, right?
You distrust machines.
Does that extend to like sewing machines?
Yeah.
Tell me, like, what about ICE machines?
You okay with those?
Jimmy, you know what?
You know, you can make fun of that, but we know the machines I'm talking about are voting machines, computers used in elections, because we want to have elections and not selections.
So not like the George Foreman lean mean grilling machine would not be on your list of things to melt down and make into prison bars.
No, just the voting machines.
We got enough of them to melt down into prison bars.
Gloria Stefan and the Miami sound machine.
They're cool, right?
What's that?
I said Gloria Stefan and the Miami sound machine.
I can't hear you, Jimmy.
I can't hear you.
I'm sorry.
turns out you're locked inside a claw machine you know one of the differences between you and the claw machine is claw machines let go And you will not let go of this voting thing, will you?
Never.
I want to help save our country.
And I love our country.
I love the people in our country.
And we've got to get rid of the computers in our elections.
Mike, I have to tell you, and I mean this sincerely, I believe that you believe this stuff.
I believe that you are really convinced that, I mean, the evidence that you've presented is nonsensical, but I do believe that you are convinced that there is some kind of a conspiracy or malfunction or whatever the case may be.
I don't believe that Donald Trump believes that.
I think Donald Trump is lying when he says he thinks the election was rigged.
I think Giuliani is lying when he says it.
I think Kerry Lake is lying.
I think for them, these are just excuses for losing an election.
What do you say to that?
Well, I say, Jimmy, no judge in the United States has looked at the evidence.
They've all kicked the can on standing.
No one has ever looked at the evidence based on merit.
Doesn't that keep sounding the alarm until somebody looks at it?
We gave it to the Facebook fact checkers, Alan Duke.
He looked at it and he won't, now he just went away because he knows it was true.
But this is the same thing.
I'm saying you, Jimmy, I'll give the evidence to you.
We'll come back two months later.
I'll pay for your cyber guy if the show can't afford it.
We'll help him check it out.
You know, you're getting a big audience tonight, so you could afford it.
Mike, I'll be able to do it.
You see that little girl with that little girl with the overalls on?
That's our cyber guy.
We're looking good.
I'm doing good.
How much has this crusade cost you?
Yeah, that was one of my favorite segments, too.
I'm looking, I'm seeing this, you guys.
It's been long ago, but when I even limited, it was, we were having fun with it.
And did you see how I even made Jimmy laugh there by me connection?
You know, I mean, he's just, you know, I said, if the show can't afford it, and what you're going to hear now, whatever number I spent, I spent tens of millions of dollars in any place that would, the people that I, you know, to help save our country.
But you heard him say, I believe Donald Trump, Kerry Lake, Rudy Giuliani, all these people, that they were just doing it for what, Jimmy?
He didn't really have a thing.
They're just saying it were what?
Because why?
You think Bernie Giuliani wanted to lose being attacked, his law lights and everything?
Do you think that, you know, these, what he's saying, if you looked at it from a common sense point of view, why would these people say it unless they knew something?
Especially, everybody, think where we're at now.
Donald Trump is in power.
Anyone that was out there or like me should say, oh, yeah, Donald Trump, he won it.
Gay boy, you know, it's over.
It's great.
Everything's beautiful.
No, I've been attacked more this last year than it almost rivals 2021 every day.
Why?
Because we're the biggest threat to getting rid of the electronic voting machines and going to paper ballots and counting.
It's very simple.
Let's go.
Let's keep going.
40 million, and that's counting building your great network.
You watch all the time, Jimmy.
Lindell TV, that's part of the cost.
I'm your number one fan.
That's for sure.
There's no question about that.
You, your pillows used to be in Costco.
They used to be in Walmart.
They used to be in AC's bed, bathroom.
Where the heck are they?
Hello?
Is anybody?
Oh, my goodness.
It's another Mike Lind okay.
Yeah, this is what you're going to see now.
What he did, I just wanted to click it in there.
You guys heard where he said Lindell TV.
Now, Jimmy did.
Here was the plus side that Evil was using for, you know, against that it turned into good for your Lindell TV.
He gave us so much exposure that think of it now.
As we spread the word about what Jimmy did last week of what he said and the things he said as his ratings went down.
But if you don't aren't watching his show, you don't even know what's going on over there.
But back then, by him attacking Lindell TV, he attacked us all the time, but he did do us good.
That they, hey, you know, watch.
Did you hear him say I'm your number one fan?
He once watched when I talked to him after this show.
And you guys, if you want to see the rest of it, you can just look up Mike Lindell, Jimmy Kimball, Claw Machine.
You can watch the whole thing, or we'll probably post it at Lindell TV.
I think we'll post the whole thing with Jimmy Kimball, but otherwise, you can go ahead and watch it.
Jimmy actually said to me that, you know, with the elections, he said, Mike, I really believe that you believe what you're saying.
And he even told me that.
Now, you guys, after the show, after he got out of the claw machine, now you see how he had the mic, the other mic.
This guy was on there all the time mocking me.
And just two weeks ago, this guy, the interview came out that they had done with this guy.
And he called me these names, you know, names that like, you know, consider me, he never, he never talked to me personally, but he just attacked me.
And his book he wrote or I don't know if it was his book or just this interview.
And this guy's a comedian or whatever, but when I met him, he was just phony baloney after that show, wanting a picture and stuff.
And I could feel this guy actually felt more evil out of him than Jimmy.
And I will say that.
And it confirmed that when it confirmed it when he wrote this stuff about me.
You know, it's crazy, right?
You know, just it was derogatory things that he had.
He doesn't know me, you know.
But anyway, you guys, when this ended, and Jimmy called me upstairs, he said, my mom usually doesn't come to my show.
And she wanted to, he's coming, Mike, because you're here.
Now, he didn't call me upstairs at the last one, right?
So we're up there, and Jimmy and I talked for quite a while, but his mom came up and said to me, she says, you know, your people, your people bad mouth my son every day.
And I go, I don't know about your people, my people, but you do realize your son bad mouths everybody, including me the most every day.
And she goes, oh, Mike, I read your book.
You're such a card.
This is what she said.
And she goes, and she's, and we just started talking like they were normal people.
And I believe they were.
And Jimmy's there, and he's like, oh, proud to say, when he introduced me to his mom, she was a big fan.
And anyway, then Jimmy and I talked and he said, Mike, I really, do you think we can really get rid of these electronic voting machines?
Can we get to?
And I said, absolutely.
I said, this stuff is real.
And he talked to me.
I don't think you could fake that.
But there's so much of it that him is a shtick.
I believe there is something deep down before that exterior.
And I think we're going to see it.
It's interesting what you will see tonight.
Now, a lot of people, as you know, Allison, as you know, Allison, that Disney, Evil Disney and Evil ABC, which I wouldn't believe they even did in the first place, are having them back on.
I believe that they're, you know, probably because they're avoiding a lawsuit, maybe from Jimmy.
Who knows?
I don't know.
We don't know what their contract says, but there's more to this because ABC and Disney do not care.
They would have just, you know, they wouldn't have taken Jimmy off in the first place.
I don't care if Sinclair and the other ones say we're not going to do this.
They're so evil.
There's something bigger than money to them.
There's something a lot bigger than money to those evil entities.
And I know this.
I can tell you stories about Disney and ABC personally.
So, and it goes way deep, everybody.
But anyway, I believe we're going to go a little over here by a minute or two.
So you'll get the last couple of minutes, Jeff.
So anyway, you guys, I think Jimmy, I don't know, Allison, I mean, if I was in their shoes tonight, you're going to see maybe he will apologize that he crossed the line of, you know, crossed the line, but I've seen him cross many a line.
And that line is when I've watched him mock Jesus Christ on his show over and over and over again.
I mean, beyond you could even imagine.
When I do my show, I have Jesus and the Lion behind me, and he's done stuff with that and stuff, you know.
So I do, once again, I do pray for Jimmy.
Just think of this, everybody.
If one of these hosts would, Jesus could turn them and that they could be, that would show more to the world.
And can you imagine if Jimmy gets born again and saved, and maybe he could, maybe he could, we pray that it happened before tonight's episode.
Can you imagine that?
He comes on there and I mean, you can't, but you guys, with God, all things are, with God, all things are possible.
And you never know.
But so, you know, and they, and I do believe right now, to taking it from the beginning, that everything I could have dreamed of in the last four and a half years coming to know.
I'm so up.
I'm always optimistic, but now it's like over the top because you see the greatest revival in the history of the world happening.
And I mean, don't you agree, Allison?
I mean, where we're at now, it's just, it's like unfolding before our eyes.
It is truly incredible.
And there's hope for everyone, too, even Jimmy Kimmel, even the worst of the worst, Jimmy Kimmel.
So we are called to pray for our enemies.
And we will continue to pray for Jimmy Kimmel and pray that he comes to know Jesus.
You know, it's not out of the realm of possibilities, especially at such a time as this.