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The Lindell Report | 20 September 2024
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My pillow guy, Mike Lindau.
He is the greatest.
My pillow guy, Mike Lindau.
And he's been with us right from the beginning.
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Good evening.
I am Rick Weibel.
Obviously, I am not Mike Lindell.
And so again, I want to thank Mike Lindell for passing the baton and for me to be able to help him out.
And as you can see, I have a new sign behind me.
The people are coming and this is part of the Royce White campaign.
I think it is very unique.
It is very inspiring to see this type of campaign sign out there in the United States in a So it'll be interesting to kind of see, as a political scientist in my view, how that will impact the election and if that will inspire people to come and vote in the Minnesota election.
We see that Minnesota is going to be one of these swing states for the presidential election.
And so Japan, what Royce White does, I think that's one of the races to watch.
And in upcoming episodes, I'll kind of do a deep dive in some of the local Minnesota politics in the legislative races, because I think there's some interesting candidates there that bring a whole new level of candidacy and the way that they're approaching the grassroots and the number one issue that is out there amongst voters.
is, of course, the economy.
And right up there in the top three is election integrity.
And still with over 60% of Americans who are concerned about the upcoming elections, we're going to see more and more election issues.
And so this is why I am just completely honored to have the guests that I have for you tonight as we continue our series looking at what you can do.
And so all of these activists are doing something regarding the elections.
And we have, when we look at the three silos, what can you do before the election?
What can you do during the election?
And what can you do after the election?
So, of course, we want to remind all of the viewers that we want to make sure that you are encouraging people to get out there and vote because they have to be registered.
You have to understand what your state laws are.
So make sure they're registered to vote.
Also, some of you out there are part of teams that you can be out there validating the voter rolls.
And then also today in many states, today is the first day of absentee balloting.
What's interesting here in South Dakota, breaking news.
Normally in the past, when I signed up for the absentee data, I would get it on the first day of absentee balloting.
So far, we have not received the emails, and I have alerted the state party chair of South Dakota that we did not receive them, so hopefully he'll be able to follow up with that later on.
I've also alerted some other organizations to compare notes, If there is an issue going on and I sent an email to the Secretary of State's office, but more than likely they're not monitoring it tonight.
So for those of you in other states, look at that historical data and make sure that it is working.
Also, as you are looking at that absentee data and you're sending out mailers, and if they bounce back, that's evidence that candidates may need and also party organizations.
Minnesota, they're guarding the ballots, and they're using that through the Rice White campaign, and now other campaigns are starting to step forward to also want to guard the ballots.
We're going to be talking about that over the next couple of weeks.
Also with absentee ballot oversight, we want to make sure that we're seeing bipartisan oversight, especially in Minnesota.
They should be looking at using both parties to actually process the absentee ballots instead of just using city and county officials.
Drop boxes.
Drop boxes are basically a way to basically avoid federal male crimes and allowing unsecured boxes for bowels to be injected in.
But my preference is if you're going to vote absentee, please vote in person.
That's the best chain of custody.
And I would prefer that you vote on election day because that is the top of the line chain of custody where typically both parties are there protecting the ballots.
Then also making sure that the processes and systems are secure.
That's important as we look at the public accuracy test in the next step, making sure that all of those tests are correct.
Parties and candidates have a role in that.
During the election, make sure you're encouraging your neighbors to get out and vote.
Make sure that there are enough election judges and if you need to volunteer, let your city clerk know or your county clerk or auditor know that you are available.
We'll also need poll challengers out there for candidates and party and also poll watchers.
Typically, you'd have to be assigned by a candidate or a party that can help.
And then we also want to make sure that we're documenting any incidents that are occurring there at the location.
After the election, the canvassing boards are important to attend, and in some states, post-election audits.
We're hoping to have a guest on tonight that will talk about what's happening in Anoka County, Minnesota, and the success that they're having.
Also, recounts are important, election challenges, and again, reviewing the election rules in a timely fashion.
So as we look at this, we have hopefully Susan Smith on if she's not.
Royce White has a program for guarding the ballots and you can find out more information there at their website at RoyceWhite.us.
And on their website, they actually have the letter that they wrote Secretary Simon and also explaining to the public the statutory basis of why they are looking to guard the belts to help protect the election.
I think this is a unique approach that Minnesota is taking and it's afforded to them via their state statutes.
Then, when we look at kind of the next thing that's going on, hopefully we have Joe Richardson from Minnesota.
If he's not, we'll just continue rolling on, and I'll kind of explain what happened in Anoka County.
So I'm not hearing him, so that... No Joe yet, okay.
That's right.
So if Joe was here, this is part of that wonderful team in Anoka County.
This is the grassroots team that basically said, hey, we want to see what we can do in research and identifying nonpartisan election reform strategies for Anoka County.
And half of the team are actually serving as an election judge within the county.
So this is actually pretty incredible.
And some of the items that they're working on is they're looking at the problems of the hand counting and also the post-election audits that Minnesota has.
And they typically will do a hand count of the statewide races and the national races.
But then what happens is we look at the reds column over there and they're not audited by the post-election audit and it hasn't happened for decades.
So this is so embarrassing that when we look at the percentages in Minnesota, it is equivalent when you look at a post-election audit to basically say, Okay.
The IRS is going to come in and audit you and you're literally going to give them one day of receipts and basically tell them we're good, right?
You don't need to look at the other 364.
Yeah, that doesn't cut it for the IRS.
And I don't know why we as the public ever accepted this type of a situation in Minnesota and across the United States where they typically, the average is three to 5% of the precincts and maybe one to two races, maybe three.
Um, that they look at.
And so this is better than Vegas odds of not finding anything wrong.
And so Vegas is even blushing at these odds.
And so when we sit here and we look at those percentages, there it is.
0.3% is the sample in Minnesota.
You know, and typically a casino is only allowed to keep 97-98% of the revenue that's coming in and the rest of it has to basically go in and look at this.
And so this is where We're seeing huge progress in the state of Minnesota, especially in Anoka.
And so here are some of the wins that they have.
Oak Grove, they voted five to nothing to hand count all four precincts and all competitive offices in the November election under the post-election review.
Then going in, we see that the City of Ramsey also seeks to hand count, and that one was a 7-0 vote for two-thirds of their nine precincts for a post-election review.
Then we see the City of Ham Lake.
Again, this one was a 5-0 vote.
We are seeing more and more elected officials interested in doing a post-election review to ensure and restore the confidence of the voters to make sure that the elections are on the up and up.
And here is another one.
Linwood Township This is another recent one here where it was 4-1.
And then we see another one that just happened here, where the city of Anoka also expanded on a 3-2 vote, and so they also voted 5-0 to maintain voting precincts below 2,000 registered voters.
So this is an example of a team that is actually doing everything right, um, to restore confidence in our elections.
And so a big tip off, a big tip of the cap to, uh, Anoka County and the, uh, the team up there doing everything right.
Um, not only before the election, but also after the election to, uh, create those benchmarks, uh, for voters.
Now turning to what's happening in.
South Dakota.
I believe I have Nicole on, and she is from South Dakota.
And if we can have her pop on.
Hey, Nicole, how are you doing?
Good, how are you?
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, so give us an update as to what happened with your petition to do hand counting in your county.
Yeah, so we are out here in Lawrence County.
We're on the very western edge of the state, darn near the Wyoming border.
And we had brought a petition to our county commissioners to bring it to a vote of the people to choose between the machines counting our votes or to hand count the votes.
And this was, this would have been back in March timeframe and they illegally rejected, unlawfully rejected our petition to hand count and sent us off into the courts.
So, so I've been dealing with that pro se because none of us can find lawyers.
We must have tried, I don't know, 35 or 40 lawyers.
Thought we had a couple lined up only for them to back out on us.
So rough go with that.
So pro se, so teaching ourselves how to be lawyers now, we filed an appeal and the appeal was dismissed.
There's been a back and forth on if the appeal was even necessary.
The law here states that the commissioner shall put it to a vote of the people.
So.
The appeal process was a little muddy.
We weren't quite sure which way to go, so we turned around right away and filed a writ of mandamus and submitted that to the courts here in Lawrence County.
So I submitted that on July 16th and received a response back from their lawyer, Attorney Sarah Frankenstein, on the 16th of August.
And then just this past week, I filed my response to her and asked the judge if He would basically a motion, a scheduling order motion to try to get this moving.
So it's been about 60 days or so.
So, yeah, we are often the courts fighting it pro se no lawyers trying to figure this out raising money.
You know, for the cost of printing thousands of documents to file these court cases.
It's been quite the whirlwind experience.
We are one of, I think we're up to seven counties now that have had their petitions rejected by their commissioners.
We just had Hamlin County, where you were there, Rick.
God bless you and Jessica for showing up to help Kirk out there.
You guys are incredible.
I just want to take just a second and just tell you, like, thank you so much for All the travel and the guidance and the help that you and Jessica have given all of us because we couldn't do this without you.
You absolutely give us courage and motivation to keep going.
So I know Kirk really needed you guys out there.
And they had theirs rejected and something like 12 citizens went right down the hall to the sheriff's department and filed complaints with the sheriff's office.
It was epic.
It was.
I have to thank you as well.
I mean, it's just like, Nicole, you are one of the best warriors out there in the West River and just your tenacity, your encouragement, also sharing time with you in front of the Secretary of State and speaking to the State Board of Elections.
And thank you for your service to our country and to all of the fallen members.
And the work that you did to take care of them for those that didn't survive their tour of duty coming back to the United States to be memorialized and return to their families for closure.
What just the care and passion that you have for our country and your fellow citizen is just so encouraging and it's such a bright light and you are one of the stars of South Dakota and it is great whenever I pass through and visit with your team out there and you you're playing a little bit soft because one of the things that you had early on that the viewers don't understand is you actually had lined up money for an attorney right out of the gate.
And it appears that there has been this situation in South Dakota, and we're hearing this in other states.
And I've been on the front lines of seeing this, where some of my friends who are attorneys have been threatened, have been maligned, have had complaints filed against their licenses.
And some of them have had to even go to the state Supreme Court and have had to go through The lawyer's board.
Uh, through all of this.
And so you've had to see this with many of the attorneys that you've seen.
And now Jessica has uncovered a story, I believe this week, where there has been an analysis of the, uh, state bar association of South Dakota and some of the heavy handedness that has happened there.
Um, and so I think you have really seen this more than anyone else.
And even when we worked with attorneys through South Dakota, Camden scene and some of our early cases and how.
They ended up disappearing.
And some of them were even threatened.
We even had a legislator that was threatened and broken into three times when they were potentially running for state party chair.
So this is a real thing that is out there when we talk about election integrity.
So it kind of scares me as to how far are they willing to go?
Yeah, absolutely.
So yeah, the first lawyer we lined up that we thought we were good to go with, we actually had six families came together and quickly generated $35,000 for a retainer fee for this lawyer.
And he backed out with like five days left in our appeal timeline.
He basically just dropped us.
And then we had another lawyer lined up and come to find out there was a Heavy-handed email that was sent by the current attorney touring the state, getting all these commissioners to reject our petitions.
And she basically was like, you don't want to represent these people.
Look at what they look at what they'll write about you.
And she was referring to a South Dakota canvassing Substack article that Jessica had written.
And so she basically scared that lawyer away from helping us.
We thought we had him all lined up.
It has been quite Quite frustrating.
And then you're right.
So that article dropped and come to find out former Senator Tom Daschle of South Dakota is part of this Project 65 group that traveled to China.
With the guy from Media Matters, so George Soros-backed, funded gentleman, and the delegation was led by John Podesta.
So we got South Dakota, you know, probably waist-deep, neck-deep at this point into this situation where they're threatening lawyers that are potentially trying to help with any election integrity-related things.
It's mind-blowing.
It just keeps getting worse.
The other thing I found was really chilling is it was discovered through FOIA requests of receipts paid to this attorney and it was found out that this attorney was paid to do a background investigation looking through social media of S.D.
Kaminski and it was right there in the payment of bills.
I find that actually chilling that a county would actually pay for that type of activ
it all off. Apparently, u the associations to write
within South Dakota. Talk about that. Yeah. So I so
Um, a records request from for basically the invoici
Um, as she, you know, cam and convinced our commiss
And in there, we learned that they were sleuthing social media accounts and taking screenshots of our stuff and South Dakota canvassing stuff.
And then they also, the lawyer also did work with the legislature, because we were in session at that time.
It would have been the end of February, right at the end of our session.
And she was working on House Bill 1140, which was basically going to give county commissioners the right to reject petitions for any reason.
If they don't agree with it, or if they think it's illegal, or they don't like the topic, or it doesn't suit their agenda, they could just reject the petition outright.
Because right now they can't do that.
You know, we have the right to petition our county government, or state government, you know, right to petition.
And so they tried to hog house this bill and get this push through the legislature right at the very end.
And our county, Lawrence County, and then McPherson County, who also filed a petition at the same time we did, were both on the hook to pay for it.
So the citizens paid for this lawyer to work on this bill to infringe on our right to petition our government with our legislature.
Certain legislators who sponsored the bill, Secretary of State's office was involved.
It was such a disaster, and that bill ended up losing.
35 to 35 was the final vote, because it was a tie that the bill didn't make it through.
But just an awful, you know, as you're reading through this, Basically a total of $35,000 between two counties of this lawyer going around and getting them to reject this petition and then, you know, trying to get legislation passed to infringe on our rights to petition.
It just adds just insult to injury, you know, that we paid for that.
And then, of course, the court costs are done through the association or the insurance company And I can't recall what the name of that was right now, but that's a whole different bill.
So this $30,000 for us in McPherson County was just her coming and getting them to change, to reject us and working on that House Bill 1140.
So $30,000 between two counties.
And I think we're up to, I don't know, seven, eight, nine counties that she's been to now.
She's just raking it in.
Taxpayer dollars.
Fighting us to the nail.
What's really sad is it might be cheaper to hand count than to pay that bill.
Right.
Right.
So that is the most ridiculous thing.
I'll go ahead and take the heat for this.
And her name is Sarah Frankenstein, and we're not kidding.
That is her actual name.
She also earlier years would actually tour the state and the country as an election integrity type attorney.
And I remember on the campaign trail going to one of her events in 2022, and one of her highlights at the end of her presentation was talking about how more states should join the Eric system.
And me coming from Minnesota, knowing about Gary Posner from the Secretary of State's office, who ended up becoming the director of Eric early on, I was like, no, no, no, no.
I know all about this.
You do not want this thing.
We've been dealing with bad voter rolls in Minnesota.
And I went up and spoke to her afterwards.
And I said, you don't understand that there's cases.
coming forward out of Wisconsin and other states that are going to be looking into Eric.
And so I believe she still started talking about Eric, even to the legislature, trying to get them to go on board with
it.
And so hopefully she's walking away from that.
But now she is definitely, I believe, attacking our constitutional rights in South Dakota to be able to
legitimately petition our government.
And what I saw in Hamlin County was so disgusting, and my heart broke for the petitioner who was there bringing his petition, waiting for the vote, was not Give a notice that it was going to be on the agenda during the last meeting.
Uh, and they had tabled it, uh, for this meeting that we attended.
And so he spoke, then Jessica spoke, and then I spoke.
And when I spoke, I actually laid down the evidence of, look, your auditor.
Doesn't actually know how to use the machines and actually violated state law.
And here's the report.
And they still went ahead after that and just denied the right of the petition.
And so many of us were pretty upset.
And so we went down to the sheriff's.
office downstairs and I was the first one to go in just to say, look, let me
tell you what's going to happen here.
There are basically five types of complaints.
Mine is a legal complaint that should be investigated.
You're also going to have another one coming in about the petition.
You're going to have another one regarding her destroying election records.
and And so affidavits were filled there and that will be referred to, according to the sheriff, to the Attorney General's Office of South Dakota.
So we'll see what AG Jackley does with this.
And I would also encourage you to file a complaint with Jackley just to put the pressure on because this is I cannot believe my eyes.
You know, we think of South Dakota as this red state and that we're going to protect all of these rights out here.
And to, just as you laid it out, to see the legislature fail because of one vote, you know, we almost lost it.
In one vote.
And Scott Odenbach, give him credit, John Hanson and Sue Peterson, for the wonderful things that they said during that great discussion.
And I would encourage anyone, go look at that debate.
I believe it's at S.D.
Kamenstein's website.
This is A lesson and a warning shot that the deep state is growing throughout the United States.
They don't want citizens to have oversight of their elections.
They don't want to have citizens have oversight of their government.
This is a very chilling wake-up call, and I'm really proud of where South Dakota is going with a lot of these petitions that are coming in as well.
South Dakotans brought a petition up to stop the pipeline, to protect property rights.
Uh, in South Dakota.
Uh, there are other petitions that are coming in to actually damage South Dakota, such as the, um, uh, abortion, um, the rights to abortion, to put that in the constitution of South Dakota, which is opposite of where our legislature has been on this and also the public.
Marijuana coming back in to rear its ugly head once again.
Um, and now a destruction of the parties.
And that is disgusting to see where all of this is going.
Yeah, yeah.
So this is a warning to all of the states out there.
Pay attention to these initiatives that are coming on, because they are looking to change your state.
Also pay attention to what activists are doing out there, and if they're trying to do legitimate petitions to ask simple questions such as, we want the right to hand count, and they're squashing it, something's up.
This is something so simple.
What are they hiding?
What are they covering up?
You know, and actually, let's remember, transparency is the inoculation to all conspiracy theories.
South Dakota ranks 48th in the Sunshine Laws in the United States, according to the press.
So, thank you, Nicole, for everything that you're doing.
Keep up the fight, and thank you for the last-minute attendance on tonight's show.
I can't wait to see you again, and good luck through the elections, and may the candidates that you support win.
Yep, thanks Rick.
Appreciate you very much.
Yeah, appreciate you as well.
Thanks.
Thank you again.
So now when we look at South Dakota, one of the other things that we have, Amendment H, Dan Goeller, hopefully I said your last name correctly.
So Dan, let's, so Amendment H, as we kind of just kind of give a little bit of a preview, is this open primary effect.
I mean, I'm sitting here looking at South Dakota.
We have independents, which aren't assigned a party.
We have non-party affiliates, which is, and also this new one, no party, whatever it is.
And that's a party, but not a party.
And independents could just sign, get petition signed and be on the ballot.
So what's the problem?
Why do they want open primaries?
Well, it's probably, if you want an answer to that question, we should look at the two states in the United States that have open primaries, and those are Washington State and California.
And if you look at the degradation of those two cultures and societies over the last four decades, you can kind of see where we're headed, unfortunately.
Washington State instituted this 20 years ago in 2004.
California was 2010, so 14 years ago.
So it's been a decade or more with these two states on what we would call the left coast.
And we just see, unfortunately, the way that there's a big ramp up in crime, corruption, and government overreach.
Those are really the three downstream results of opening up the primaries.
And so what they're calling for here, what is an open primary?
Essentially, what you have is everybody, regardless of any political or party affiliation gets on the primary ballots.
And then the top two vote getters are the ones who go on to the general election.
So now we have a process where everybody can participate.
You can be a member of either party.
It's very easy to register.
It takes just a few minutes to register for whatever party you want to be a part of.
Um, and independents have the ability to get on the ballot as well.
So we essentially already have open primaries.
But what these top two rank primaries will do is they will give out of state interest, corporate interest and essentially cronyism the opportunity to hand select two top candidates who they can back with the most money.
Because as everyone Yeah, you're exactly right.
fathom the people who have the most money will be able to run.
Now, anybody can essentially, with a few thousand dollars, raise some money with local grassroots efforts
and get on the ballot.
That's going to not be the case anymore when the elitists basically hand-select who they want
because they will funnel money to whichever candidates best suit their purposes so that they can get the laws passed
that they want.
Yeah, you're exactly right.
And this is where I think parties actually do matter because one of the fundamental things that the grassroots
does is in order to get endorsements, especially
in these local elections, and even in South Dakota where we have this split within the executives where
the party actually endorses the Secretary of State, decides the treasurer, land, all of those pieces.
It forces those candidates to actually go connect through a majority of the counties To meet with the activists so we have an opportunity to vet them.
Do we always get it right?
Well, we do a lot better job than those states that only go through the primaries themselves.
So I think we end up with a higher caliber of candidates and at least we have, it's a lower cost for candidates to come in because when you look at a statewide candidate, a governor versus a secretary of state, a governor versus Bureau of Land, Nobody really cares about Bureau of Land.
They're not going to donate money to that candidate unless they're part of a political action committee that wants to get some kind of benefit from them.
Because the rest of the citizens are not going to donate, correct?
And so this is where parties, I believe, have a vested interest to use those positions to help nurture, mentor, and kind of test some of the future leaders that could be running for higher office.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I mean, the system that we now have is essentially a gateway to ensure the integrity of the people that we want to put up on the general election ballots.
That's the way the system works.
It's not broken.
You hear all these arguments like, oh, well, not that many people are able to participate.
Well, they are able to participate.
As I mentioned earlier, it's very simple to register a party affiliation.
Even independents can vote in the Democratic Um, primary as well.
And of course, everybody can vote in the general election.
They also talk about how, well, this is going to increase participation because, you know, South Dakota is this red state and, you know, people don't really get a say in the candidates because the Republican Party has such a strong red state presence here.
But even if that's true, that doesn't diminish the opportunity that people have to vote in the primary or in the general election.
And the reality is, if you look back over the history of the two states I mentioned, California and Washington State, who both have these open primaries, the percentage of people participating in both the primary and the general elections has not increased, even though they have made these changes to their state laws.
Yeah, and you're right.
And actually, we have to take a step back and actually look at the purpose of the primaries.
The primaries are really partisan elections.
They have nothing to do with the general public.
And so I think this is a misunderstanding by these people who are trying to push this petition, is that they believe everyone should be able to be involved in deciding a partisan race.
Correct?
Yeah, it makes no sense.
I mean, why would a Democrat want a Republican to go and select?
They're obviously going to stack the deck against the party that they oppose.
So, I mean, Republicans who outnumber Democrats, maybe two to one here in South Dakota, it's going to be very easy for them to go and vote and say who they want.
But in the end, it won't really matter because In the end, basically, the top two candidates will be the ones who will go on the ballot, and that will essentially be two so-called Republicans.
But it probably won't be the ones that the Republican Party, through the filter of their platform, will select and choose who they want to best represent their interests.
It will be whoever has the most money put behind them to raise their Um, awareness within the public's mindset when they go to vote in that top two primary.
So that's the real difference.
There are there's no more selection or gatekeeper.
Like you said, really get to know the candidates and know where do you stand if you're going to represent the people that share our values in this platform that we've selected?
Who are those people?
Um, you won't know anymore because it will be whoever essentially is hand selected and gets the most into their campaigns to basically get them up in those top two positions to go on to the general ballot.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And so I want to thank you for your steadfastness in this.
And where can people learn more about what's happening?
Yeah, we have the campaign basically on this particular amendment issue on the ballot in November is Vote No on H. So I would suggest that people go and look at that and just check it out and find out the information and do what you can to make people aware.
I think the real challenging thing we have seven ballot initiatives on our ballot in South Dakota and I think the danger is with there being a big voter turnout because of the presidential election a lot of people will show up and be ignorant or misinformed and I just hope that they'll really do their due diligence to really understand all of these seven issues carefully and understand what the real ramifications are depending on which way you vote on them and these will have severe in some cases downstream consequences for the state and I just I I think it'd be a shame if people just, you know, vote yes or no on an issue like these that we're facing without really doing the work to understand what issues are at stake and what the consequences might be.
You're exactly right.
And thank you for what you're doing and keep up the good work because voter education is what we're all about.
And a more educated electorate is one that is hopefully better for all of us because these elections matter.
And my next guest, we actually kind of calculated what the value of a vote was.
And what's crazy, we found out that it is Depending on where you're at, anywhere between $30,000 and $40,000, because when you look at the federal government expenditures,
The state government expenditures, then you look at the county, then you look at your city, and then you look at your school board and you take that two-year budget because typically these elections are once every two years where you have an impact to swap out the folks that have oversight over those budgetary matters.
And so my next guest, Jill Kaufman, Let's get a update as to what is happening in Wyoming.
So we went back and actually reviewed your test acts and we actually got some breaking news that I guess I was a little wrong and premature on one of the counties.
And so how many counties passed the first logic and accuracy test when we look at both the state law and the certificate that they failed?
Yeah, thank you for having me on again.
I greatly appreciate it.
And wow, power-packed on the previous presenters.
I appreciate them tremendously.
They're troopers in what they're doing, and we're grateful across the whole nation for what everybody's doing, and the activists in every one of their states.
Now Wyoming, oh my goodness, we went through and after finding some FOIA, or we call them public records, we found out the certifications on our elections were certified that they have to have a certain amount of ballots that they have.
One of them is a ballot on demand, one of them is from the printer, and the other one is from... oh my goodness, I forgot it.
The express vote.
The express vote.
Thank you.
Apologize, Zach.
And when we went back and looked at the test decks, the one that we thought had passed has not passed.
So we had a zero passing our first accuracy and logic testing.
It is unbelievable.
I get so frustrated.
Today we just had a just a little caveat.
Oh, perfect.
Thank you for that.
It's pretty scary.
That is the state in their passing their first test.
They did not.
But you're a red state.
Oh, wait a minute.
This means they failed.
So that's not a good thing.
Okay.
Exactly.
It's not supposed to mean we failed, but we failed miserably.
And then I don't know if you have another map of the second one, because our SOS did do a really good thing and gave them another opportunity.
to retest and We found out in the long run that a couple of them did not retest and the other ones that did most of them failed as well So it's it's just pretty scary on Whether it's the education or the arrogance or We just can't put our finger on it, but it's not getting done correctly for whatever reason and Our state has some really good Good explicit laws and of course the guidelines that we're following so we've been able to have an actual pretty good course on what's going on.
We also went with doing that.
We also have found so many.
So many of the officials that are just not necessarily willing to help or come forward with information.
So that's kind of sad.
I know a lot of people like their local, you know, as most people do, they like their local elected officials.
And what's unfortunate is they're just being very obstinate anymore.
And it's sad.
It's very sad.
Yeah, it really is.
And so when it's It's really disturbing because if we take a look at what the EAC says back in 2005 in their actual guidelines, it's really well stated here.
And so they stated in the Voluntary Voting System Guidelines, which most states adopt as required, on page three, on the bottom of it, it's kind of buried in the paragraphs there.
But they say it is well known that deficiencies in election management and administration procedures can have just as much impact on the enfranchisement of voters and the outcome of elections as the functioning of the voting machines.
The overall integrity of the election process That is such a fundamental statement when we look at the elections.
And when we see your state come out as a red state, red alert, we have problems.
And then we see a statement coming out from your governor.
That basically is focused on one of the issues but misses the bigger picture.
It is actually stunning to see an executive order that comes out from your governor that basically only talks about the illegal immigration and verifying voter citizenship, but then he basically says that Everything is fine within the elections and he misses the red alert even though he has been contacted by multiple folks saying there are issues within your state.
And you need to come on board to help us get these fixed.
And so it is time for the Executive Committee, with the leadership of Chuck Gray, to take corrective action.
And I think he has to go back and start looking at the 2020, the 2022 primaries and general elections and evaluate whether or not any of these clerks that have been there for so long have continually committed fraud, especially when in June he sent a letter alerting them of the law, giving them the example and giving them an olive branch to seek help and oversight
from the Secretary of State's office to work together to make sure that we have election integrity.
And when quite a few of these counties, I believe in a memo that you had received from the Secretary of State's office through a data practices, not all the counties retested.
No, there was two that we know of for sure that did not retest and they didn't pass their first one.
Right.
And so we went into an election where it destroyed voter confidence.
And then with this red alert, it continued to destroy confidence.
And then with the failures of the retest, it made things even worse.
There is a case developing in Laramie County.
Where I believe that deadline is today for that person to rectify any of the issues.
And so it's going to be interesting to see where that case goes.
I have to be careful what I say there.
Cause I don't want to hurt the case in any way, but I think voters will want to go read some of the newspaper articles, even though they're not quite on point as to what they would actually happen.
And.
The very thing is that there's more to this story that will come out over the next few weeks, and it will be stunning.
I am so proud to help out in this case.
I am so proud to have a front row seat to this, and I'm so proud of the attorneys that are working on this.
I am so proud of the Wyoming GOP taking action, and I am so proud of the activists You had activists there in Wyoming that are actually working on the disaster recovery plan right now, and they've actually been training people on hand counting.
And one of the great patriots out there, Elena, and also Michelle, they have trained, I believe, well over 100 people on hand counting.
And they've even been talking with some election officials and one of them even said they appreciated the hand counting and they felt that this was something that was actually doable and they actually liked it.
And so we are hoping to work with that election official to say, would you come and work with us to work with Chuck to make this as part of a documented disaster recovery plan so that if anything happens, We have a backup plan, and we already have volunteers ready to go to basically make sure that this election is going to be completed.
So if there's a storm or a weather incident, high winds, as you have the gentle caressing breeze of 50 miles an hour...
That's a real issue, and if ICE gets on those lines, those are things that can happen.
So I really want to give your state credit, and especially all the activists out there.
There's been a lot of different folks that have been helping push this along.
I had a good conversation with your county chair today, and his statement to me was, how long has this been happening?
And I said, you know, Sherry, I don't want you to feel bad by yourself because I'm responsible too.
All of us are responsible.
We all are.
When a lot of these laws were passed and this equipment came into our systems, we didn't understand it, we didn't appreciate the technical part of it, and we didn't have proper oversight of the equipment.
We allowed ourselves to coast.
And so I take offense when Secretary of States and other organizations call me an election denier, try to basically try to ruin my credibility just for asking simple questions, but also trying to offer solutions and alternatives.
And when we finally see in state statute like your state, here are requirements and they are failing.
This is the first time that this level of analysis has ever been done.
Yes, it is, and I am so grateful for you to come out here.
Way back in June, you grabbed the tab and come on out, and it's just been really wild ever since then with all of our digging and finding this out.
The thing that I get frustrated, and going back to the governor's executive order, I wanted to state this.
He says in his executive order, he says, I wonder what Rocky's been hiding under because that is an absolute crazy statement for him to make and it's frustrating because we have been sharing with anybody and everybody who would listen to us and even some that won't listen to us we share with them the information and hoping that someday something will sink in and they can understand that we're vulnerable and
And little old Wyoming, the red state, which we didn't want to be known for all test decks failed, but we are now.
We would rather be a red state because of the voting aspect.
The most key and important part that I think that we're trying to promote here with the great activists is, you know, we're all participating.
We all need to step up.
Everybody has their gifts.
Those beautiful gals over in Sheridan County that are just taking it by storm and giving people some more information.
And across the state, there's quite a bit going on.
But the thing that is so important is that we need to make sure people are held to account because we do have good laws in Wyoming, and that is a good thing.
So we need to change some things in the future, and that's what we're focusing on, is to make sure the pureness of our vote is counted as we cast it.
And that, I say from the very beginning, we have to make sure it's pure.
Yeah, you're exactly right.
And that is not too much to ask for.
And so as you were talking about your governor's statement, you know, that they're the most secure in the nation.
And I'm kind of chuckling because We know of an incident where one of your election management systems has a pop-up on it, and so that needs to be vetted and we need to review that.
We are aware of thumb drives that were purchased not through ES&S, And so if that's the most secure, it reminds me in my presentations where I drive throughout the upper Midwest and I see those Taco Bell signs that says Taco Bell voted the best Mexican restaurant in that town and my heart just breaks because
So, we're really kind of down here at that level.
That's the best.
So, we're kind of at the bottom of the barrel.
Pretty scary, isn't it?
That's the bottom of the barrel, right?
And so, when I look at your election systems not having antivirus updates for the last two years, that is ridiculous.
But I have to do a self-correction here.
tell me that they had the updates in 2023, but then I have to respond to them, yeah, that was
an update that came out in 2022. So you were a year late in getting that update. And so it really
is that bad and it is just stunning. Yeah, it is absolutely stunning. And with more and more
information that I'm getting, we're finding out that although there that, and it may be breaking
news, although that update was supposed to be installed, it never was, because in some information
I found out, our elected officials were asking for it to happen in July of 31 of this year. So
Oh my, it didn't get updated as well.
So we have this fake facade that, because I know a lot of them have been saying that, well, we had it updated in 2022.
And I'm like, well, I still, still don't like 2000 or two years old antivirus.
Holy smokes!
You would never allow that on your own computer.
You would never allow that in any office or any business.
They would never allow it to probably go past a week without being updated.
So this is just mind-boggling and the pushback that we're getting is just quite...
I'm just shocked at the pushback for that.
But you know what?
We just keep trying to educate and keep trying to enlighten people to go and talk about their vote.
We need to make sure their vote is pure.
Make sure that our clerks and our Secretary of State, which The Secretary of State has been fairly good so far, and we want to encourage him to take care of these flaws in our system.
And it's not just the test decks.
It's multiple things, as Rick had said.
All right.
Perfect.
Thank you so much, Jill.
What a great show.
What a great wrap up.
For those of you that are out there, thank you for keeping up the fight.
And I really want to iterate, the people are coming, and I want to warn every single election official, please print more ballots now.
Don't use the ballot on demand printers.
Order your extra ballots now, because there are going to be a lot of people that are going to want to come out and vote.
There are a lot of people that are wanting to help you with the elections.
There are going to be a lot of people that want to come out and guard the ballots in multiple states.
There are people that are going to want to be poll watchers to make sure that everything is on the up and up.
And with the FBI and Homeland Security saying that our elections are under threat, we as Americans are going to say, no way.
We are going to protect our elections and we are going to support our election officials that even if the power is out, we are going to raise our hands and say we are here to help you hand count to make sure that you meet your statutory deadlines.
We are going to protect the vote.
We are going to register to vote.
We are going to make sure everybody that wants to vote has their vote counted.
So again, I am Rick Weibel.
And you can find some of my resources over at uscase.org.
And I just updated a new kind of test deck report that you can use to kind of understand that.
And again, I want to thank Mike Lindell.
Visit mypillow.com.
Also visit my friends over at Cause of America.
Thank you so much.
Stay awesome and make sure you are ready to vote.
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He is the greatest.
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