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You were born with a plan and a purpose.
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He's the God of all miracles.
Welcome to Grace Grace with Nina.
I'm Michelle Humphreys.
And I am Nina Keegan.
Welcome to our broadcast today.
Today we are so excited to have this very special guest on.
You will all know him.
You will all know he is a household name, household commercial.
You cannot not know him.
Exactly.
If you have a TV, you know the MyPillowGuy.
But before he was the MyPillowGuy, he had quite a life.
And we're going to talk about that today and what all he is doing.
Will you please welcome to our program, Mike Lindell.
We're so happy you're here.
Well, thanks for having me on.
Well, we are grateful.
Thank you so much.
We both have your book here, fascinating, and just an unbelievable story of God's redemption and how God found you and all that you're doing for the kingdom.
Do you want to touch a little bit about that?
In the Lindell Recovery Network, your book is called, What Are the Odds?
From Crack Addict to CEO, Mike Lindell.
How did that all happen?
Start from the beginning.
Just tell us a little bit about your life story.
Yeah, I'll go back to, when I was seven years old, my parents divorced and I was put into a school.
I didn't know anybody, but I was the only kid from a divorced family.
And I felt really like an outcast almost.
It was like, I can just remember how I felt back then.
I would either show up or be very quiet.
And when I got, I remember getting out, as I was writing this book, I finally realized back then how much it did affect me.
I'm not blaming everything in my life on it, but I'll tell you, it really affected me a lot more than I thought.
I always thought I was just somewhat shy or didn't want to talk to people I didn't know or whatever.
And certainly did not want to talk in public or in front of anyone.
I was basically, you heard about being camera shy or being pure public speaking.
I was that on steroids.
So it was like, nobody can believe that, but I would, but yet I would show up.
It's in the book where I would show up in school to, it was like these extremes.
And I just remember, No, I only had two jobs back then, probably the last two jobs I ever had because I was always an entrepreneur.
But the two jobs I had was working in a drive-in movie theater and a grocery store.
And I ended up getting fired at the grocery store.
I had all my ideas of what a company would be, should be.
We would argue over that.
And he goes, Mike, if you think you can run your own company, why don't you get your own company and do what you want to do sometimes?
And we do that.
We put out things I didn't like back then.
So when I got fired on, I actually had a person that I hadn't seen in a long time had passed away and they were very close to me.
And I just went, I told I couldn't take off to go to the But I just did it anyway, and I got fired for it, and things like that.
Well, like, at my pillow now, if you have a death that's somebody close to you, we don't care who it is, a neighbor, I don't care who it is, you take off and we pay you while you're out as much time as you want to grieve, or if you're hurt and it's life-threatening, we pay you while you're out, or if it's, you know, if a loved one's in the hospital.
So we've got, we have all these things from back then that I didn't like, but anyway.
We got to my five-year class reunion, and I remember everyone had finished college, or they were starting families, or they expanded, you know, got further, whatever they were doing with their job.
But I wasn't doing anything, and I hadn't done anything by then.
I wasn't even working at the drive-in theater.
I was basically spending my time in the bars.
But I kind of took over that reunion.
And I was telling them about how I owed the mafia money, and they'd come to my doors and threaten me, and I owed tens of thousands of dollars as a 20-some-year-old kid.
Or how I fell asleep on a motorcycle.
I've gotten 17 traffic tickets on a motorcycle.
This is in the book.
And there was a warrant out.
I would have went to jail if I got caught driving this bike, but I wanted to go on my night jump skydiving, and I remember driving it, fell asleep, crashed the motorcycle, Got back up, went down skydiving, and my parachute had a malfunction.
And this was all on the same day.
So everyone at the reunion is going, wow, wow, they're going wow.
But I got home that night, and it was a deep sadness that came over me.
It was like, I wanted what they had, not what I was bragging about, because that's all I had.
And it was a self-worth thing.
And then I got into cocaine.
Once I got into cocaine, then I could really talk, you know, I could talk and be, you know, functioning addict.
I think people talk about addiction and they say, you know, they imagine addicts in the street.
I've been there before, but they imagine being in the street with homeless or whatever.
And And I'm curious.
In the book, I say addiction affects everyone, no matter how many forks you eat with.
And it's very functioning addiction.
I became a functioning addict.
I was blessed with a family and a 20-year marriage.
And I was, like I say, I had a parallel track of not just with addiction, but also with entrepreneurship.
My sister flooded a third-story building with an apartment complex with a waterbed.
So I became a carpet cleaner.
Another thing that manifested out of going to a treatment center, I started a lunch wagon business.
And then the business I got into as I was bartending, I guess, I ended up buying the restaurant bar from the guy on a contract for deeds.
That was the start of buying that, and I didn't have any money.
Nobody handed me any money, so I had a big good work ethic, too.
But I had one bar for 13 years.
It's in the book, and not a good place for an addict.
But that had turned into crack cocaine around the year 2000 from cocaine and other addictions.
I was also a professional card counter, but then it was me in the casinos where I was addicted to gambling.
Just so many crossovers there, and it's quite, like you say, it's pretty amazing.
But God, throughout all of it, God was always chasing me, and I would pray, I call them reactionary prayers.
I would pray, go get me out of this, and I'll never do this again.
But those, obviously, a lot of those weren't God's will.
So, things that were so devastating at the time, I can look back now and say, wow, that was meant to be.
And all these things that happened probably gave me the strength where I'm at now, where I've seen things be so decimated back then, and I was able to get through them by the grace of God.
I invented the pillow in 2004, after I had to sell the bars and it wasn't something I did.
Um, it was basically forced out, and I was just, like I said, devastated.
The time I look back now, if that wouldn't have happened, I might not be here.
We wouldn't have MyPillows.
We're going to take a break really quickly, and when we come back, we'll talk more about how MyPillow got started.
So, stay tuned.
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Welcome back to Grace Grace with Nina and Michelle.
We are here with the fabulous Mike Lindell.
What an amazing story.
And you were just talking about, you know, how God works in mysterious ways.
And so again, you know, you were devastated over losing this bar.
But that caused you to launch MyPillow.
So, like you said, you might not still be here if you were still at a bar because of the issues that you had at the time.
So tell us about MyPillow.
And why a pillow?
Like, you know, there's got to be a reason for that.
Right.
Well, the pillow, you know, there was always a problem solution.
Like I said, I was always an entrepreneur and I would come up with different ideas of different things.
But the pillow was extremely frustrating for me.
I know I had back in 1977 with my first paycheck at that grocery store, it was like $70 some dollars.
And I went out and bought the most expensive pillow you could find, which at that time was a down pillow.
It was about $70 and it was horrible.
and I'm using my arm folding my pillow and I couldn't return it.
But all my life I just knew that there was something different.
I'd stack pillows, just all these different things and nothing really worked.
And I had an idea.
I believe that this was basically a God idea, dreams that I'd had.
I actually dreamt the name of my pillow first.
I'm going, you know, that sounds like, it was a weird name.
It was like one of the first My's, like, where's MyPillow?
And I mean, she used and combined it into one word.
And, uh, but I came up with actually the name before even the pillow.
It took about nine or 10 months in 2003 or 2004 going, um, every day tearing different foams.
I wanted something you could adjust and it would hold there and, And it was very frustrating but each every day going through this and then I would have this but I I reverse engineered I wanted to have everything that anyone would ask for and but the biggest thing was quality sleep and that adjustability that wouldn't go flat.
I remember finally we had it my son I thought one of my sons we he would help me each day and tearing the foam and stuff flying around the neighborhood and We finally came up with it, but then you couldn't get it apart.
And we solved that problem, and then we didn't have a machine that could make that, and we solved that.
And then I wanted it to be able to wash and dry it that hadn't been done before in pillows.
So we got the patent in form, and we ended up getting a patent on it.
But I wanted to make it wash and dry.
I wanted to give it value and a 10-year warranty and all these things.
And when I finally had it, I went into, I remember going into a box store, actually it was a Bed Bath & Beyond, and said, how many do you want?
I have the best pillow ever made!
I love them all!
And they thought, I think they thought it was, this Nazi says, you need to leave now.
Kind of like where we're at now with no box stores.
But anyway, someone said, well, Mike, why don't you do a kiosk?
And I was completely penniless then.
I remember I said, what's a kiosk?
How do you spell that?
And we went to do that and we borrowed money.
to do the kiosk and remember I couldn't talk to people so I couldn't I didn't want to be there with the public walking up where a kiosk was and ask me questions very uncomfortable because I would be straight remember I had two tracks going on crack cocaine addict and alcoholic but yet over here I would separate that it would be it would be out of my skin I just didn't like us but I was only there maybe two of the days we hardly sold anything over the two over the two months or month and a half And, uh, but the day I was there that this guy came up and said, Hey, um, do you have a business card?
I said, I don't have a business card.
And he said, I wrote my name and number on a piece of paper.
Well, that guy by divine appointment, he called.
Now we had, the kiosk was a complete failure, but he called in January of that year and four little kids.
And I'm wondering what I'm going to do, you know, when I wasn't giving up.
And he called up, he says, Hey, I got your, you gave me your number.
I, you know, this pillow changed my life.
And he goes, I run the Minneapolis Home and Garden Show.
Would you like a spot in there?
And I said, sure.
And I remember giving him a check because I didn't have any money.
I'd say cash after the show.
But I probably sold very few pillows in the two months at the kiosk.
This time I put a table in front of me so people couldn't invade my space and I'd have kind of like a shield in my... A pillow shield.
A pillow shield.
18 people bought pillows that day.
And they came back the next day and paid to get back in the show, all of them did, to come up and tell me how that pillow had helped them.
And I was so excited.
I was just hooked on that, on helping people.
It wasn't about the money.
It was about that, you know, that feeling I got there.
So I did home shows and fairs for years with a parallel track of addiction.
And I lost everything in 2007.
We were making them in our living room.
Our packaging in our living room last a marriage of 20 years and they turned out our power, our lights, and it was basically lights out.
And then the crack addiction took over in 2008 and 2009.
The drug dealers actually did an intervention on me.
That's the cover of the book.
Where out there were three drug dealers downtown Minneapolis.
I came out of the bedroom and they're all going and I said you guys know each other and they knew of each other but they had never met and the one guy says you've been up for 14 days we're cutting you off and and um two one guy left and the other one went down and got the word out in the streets and He said, how much crack you have left?
And I showed him and he sat in the chair and I, by 2.30 in the morning, I was already carpet farming.
If you don't do crack, if you do crack, you'll know what that means.
I was carpet farming, scraping the pipe and I looked over and he was asleep.
I went down to the streets of Minneapolis, couldn't buy crack anywhere.
They would not, you know, I go, Hey, I got a hundred dollars.
It didn't matter.
They had gotten the word out to not sell me any.
I came back upstairs and, um, And he said, how'd that work out for you?
And I said, and I'm all upset.
And he said, man, you've been telling us for years that you're gonna quit this, your addictions, and you're gonna come back and help us out of this addiction world we're in.
And I was basically their hope.
And he said, we're not gonna let you die on us.
And he grabbed my phone.
He says, here, I'm gonna take a picture for that book you say you're gonna write someday.
So he took that picture.
That is on the book.
Now, it was a year later, on January 16, 2009, That's the day I quit all the addictions.
I quit everything overnight.
I had one prayer to God.
I said, God, I want to wake up in the morning and never have the desire again.
And I knew I had this big calling.
We all have callings, but I knew I had a calling.
But I also knew if I waited one more day, that path, that option was going to be gone forever.
And I described that in the book.
But I woke up in the morning, and the desires were gone.
Now, that was the day I thought I got saved, because it was such a difference of night and day.
But I didn't actually give a full surrender to Jesus Christ until February 18, 2017, everybody.
But they did quit that day, and then it was like, Four years later, my pillow was just a little dot.
All the shows had been taken.
There was so much betrayal in my life.
So I told my friends and family, I said, let's pool our money.
We're going to make the biggest infomercial in history, and it's going to be so successful.
I didn't know that That the infomercials are just to go into the box stores that wouldn't take us, that they don't make money on the front end.
Nobody told me it couldn't be done.
So I just decided we would do it.
Well, obviously, you don't take no for an answer.
And when we come back, we're going to talk about how we came to the MyPillow commercials.
And we want to know, we know you're so involved in, you know, helping to save America.
And we're going to hear all about that, too.
We want to know that story when we come right back.
Stay tuned.
You're watching Grace Grace with Nina and Michelle.
When I started MyPillow, it was just a problem-solution, one-product company.
Well, since then, with the help of my dedicated employees, we now have hundreds of products, some you might not even know about.
To get the word out, we're having a $25 extravaganza.
Two-pack multi-use MyPillows, $25.
MyPillow sandals.
$25.
And for the first time ever, our six pack towel sets, you guessed it, just $25.
Our brand new quart pack dish towels, $25.
And I've never done this before.
Premium MyPillows with all new Giza fabric, any size, any loft level, even king size for only $25.
And there's so much more.
So go to MyPillow.com or call the number on your screen.
Use your promo code for our $25 Extravaganza!
Order $75 and over, your entire order ships absolutely free!
Welcome back to Grace Grace with Nina and Michelle.
You are watching our show today with our special guest Mike Lindell.
This is part one of part two.
We are just getting to his whole story.
And so you're going to want to stick around and hear this.
And so Mike, you were just talking about MyPillow and how kind of how you were getting started to maybe get into big box stores.
So take it from there.
What happened?
Right, well this was actually the first infomercial we did where we couldn't, no box stores would take us and we were denied everywhere.
I had quit all my addictions the year before, January 16, 2009.
I spent the next year or so getting my shows back and like I say, so much betrayal from people I had broke bread with.
We're trying to steal the company with what it was, and I'd already done print ads and a little bit of radio, but I had this dream of this infomercial.
So we pulled our money, and the infomercial, just so people know, is a half-hour infomercial, and they only work in In Japan, by the way, on the front end, which means that to make enough money on a front end of an infomercial, infomercials are just to advertise, so you go into box stores, and the box stores were not having us.
But like I say, and everyone said, this will never make it, this will never make it.
Now, we went to film this, and remember, I was afraid of being in front of crowds or talking in front of people unless I had this table in front of me at Home Kilted Food.
So this was new to me, being in a sober life.
And so we went to do our reads the night before.
It was just a friend of mine that had done shows with.
And this guy from Hollywood or whatever, this producer, he texted the other guys we're doing our reads.
He said, this is the worst guy I've ever seen.
He'll never make it on TV.
But I didn't know that, so then the next day though, I come out and my eyes bogged out of my head, and here's all the live audience, and I'm scared to death.
And it took like an hour to do one line, and it was so stiff.
And then the pillow goes like this, you know.
So I finally said, hey, can we get rid of the teleprompter and bring a table in, just like I did it at the home shows all those years?
Where I was comfortable.
So we put the table and I just did it kind of live and I didn't even realize the audience was there because I'm so passionate about the product and it was just, it just came out of me.
You know, the things I would say too would be a little, it was almost film live, you know, you flip flop all night like a guppy.
I know people would say, you know, I would say these things and they just kept it in this commercial.
Well, anyway, it launched October 7th of 2011.
I was living in one of my sister's basement.
But I had about five, maybe 10 employees, mostly my kids and some neighbor kids.
And that launched, and 25 days later, we had 500 employees.
I remember firing the call center I had trained in, and one day, because I called them up and I said, yeah, what's in that pillow?
And they said, I don't know, Google it.
I said, Google it!
You know, so, because I always treat every customer I treat every customer like it's my only customer, and I would just... And what happened then, we grew so fast.
We took in over $100 million.
We were the number one infomercial in the world in two months.
They said, Mike, you need to be CEO.
I go, why do I need to be CEO?
I just want to make... I didn't even know what CEOs were.
I said, let's just make pillows.
We need an HR department.
I said, that sounds horrible.
And we need a company lawyer.
I go, that sounds even worse.
It took in $100 million in the next six months, but at the end of the six months, one day in May of 2012, I opened it up and looked at it and go, oh, what?
I was $6 million in debt, and I was just devastated.
And there had been so much betrayal, so much where I took me in a handshake deal, or even if I signed a contract, if they both would, it was that everybody had taken advantage.
There was stuff that wasn't in-house and nothing was tracked right.
But I learned from all that, and over the next two years, it was a grace of God, though, that we were protected in that time, because then the box stores, because of all that advertising, they did come calling, and the shopping channels.
So we were able to get into them, but still, you were living on the edge for about two years, and then I met my wife-to-be named Kendra.
We just got married last year, as a matter of fact.
When I met her, she did a couple of things.
She's saying, I wanted something she had.
I'm going, wow, you know, I thought that I was already saved.
And she goes, and she had something I didn't have, and that was a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
But she would always have me praying for the company.
We need to pray.
This was the summer of 2014.
We were within a couple days of going under, and once again, God lifted my pillow and myself out of that ruins.
And if you read the book, it just exploded in November of 2014.
Someone said, well, Mike, what I basically did during that time was pull everything in-house and learn what went wrong in 2012.
And I say that right now when we talk about our elections and stuff, which we'll get into that in the next hour.
If 2012 had not happened, my pillow would not be here.
this thing, but they, uh, um, I always compare that in my speeches with the
elections. I say if 2012 had not happened, my pillow would not be here.
Um, thousands of employees later and 84 million my pillows later. Um, so because
Wow.
Because if I didn't, I look back now, which was so devastating at the time, I just learned from it and pulled everything in-house and said, how can I make this the best it can be?
How can I make this the best it can be?
You know, each segment of a, no matter what it is with the marketing.
So our marketing you see now is second to none.
We track everything with promo codes and And in 1-800 numbers, we want to know what if you had to live on just that one thing, just that show, or just that one commercial, or just that one newspaper article.
Whatever it is, you want to make it the best you can be.
But we learned all that from the stuff that happened in 2012.
That's why I call the 2020 election the most important election in history is because of everything we've learned over the last three and a half years.
It has definitely been a teaching experience.
And we're going to do a part two of Grace Grace with Mike Lindell.
And thank you so much for joining us today.
Please join us for part two of this amazing story.
We cannot wait to get into this next phase and all that you've learned.
So thank you for joining us today, Mike.
We appreciate you so much and we're so proud of you.
We'll see you on part two.
God bless you.
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Welcome to Grace Grace with Nina and Michelle.
I'm Michelle Humphreys.
And I am Nina Keegan.
Welcome to the broadcast today.
Today, this is part two of a very exciting program.
We are so honored and so blessed to have this amazing, amazing guy on our show that's just God led, God fearing.
And we hope you go back and listen to part one.
But Michelle, you want to introduce?
You all know him.
If you own a TV set, if you, you own, most everyone owns a MyPillow, right?
So we are talking to the one and only MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell, who has the most amazing story.
Mike, you were telling us, we have a part one, so go back and watch part one.
You do not want to miss it.
It's a story of how God delivered him out of a crack addiction and We're going to pick it back up where he gets saved.
So tell us, Mike, how did you find Jesus?
Well, you know, my book is called, What are the Odds?
From Crack Addict to CEO.
And when you talk about odds, remember, well, in part one I said, you know, I was a professional card counter, but I'm talking about odds is, I always look at mathematics and that God exists.
And one of the things is, if you see something that's a one in a million, or this is like a one in a billion, or wow, this is impossible.
When do you add them all together and you call it a miracle?
Amen.
So, for me, all my life, you'd see, as you see my, what, 14 near-death experiences, all these things that would happen.
I got to the point I was almost taking them for granted, you know.
Show me more, God.
Show me more.
Show me more.
And then I thought I was saved, you know.
I really did.
You know, I believe in God.
I mean, I thought that's pretty simple.
I believe in God.
Um, but I knew there was more because, you know, the gal that my wife, uh, uh, Kendra, she's, uh, at the time, you know, she, I should see, she had more of this personal relationship and, and, um, things started happening to me then in the summer of, of, um, actually it was the spring of 2015 and, um, Where I had this dream that I would be in this picture with me and Donald Trump.
And I had never watched The Apprentice.
I had never seen...
I knew Donald Trump, obviously a very famous entrepreneur in this country.
But I didn't have like a, wow, that's a weird dream, you know?
And it was very vivid.
And then in, of course, in June, you know, he comes down the escalator running for president.
Now, y'all have to realize I had never voted in my life.
I didn't think politics affected me.
I was out smoking crack or didn't care or doing my entrepreneurship, you know.
And in fact, at one of the rallies down the road, they introduced me as a former Democrat and the founder of MyPillow.
I said, I didn't find MyPillow.
I invented MyPillow.
And I was never a former Democrat.
I was a former crack addict.
But anyway, I had never voted.
So then when you came down that escalator, all of a sudden that dream, you know, it was very intriguing.
OK, so I had to learn.
Real fast, what a Democrat was, what a Republican, and I couldn't believe this divide in the sand of these.
I'm going, wow, if you're over here, you've got to be this.
I mean, it was just a lot of stuff I learned then in 2015.
Well, then we rolled into 16.
And I remember the summer of 16, I was going to do a part in a movie.
It's called Church People.
If you all see it, it's a great movie.
You guys should get it.
Anybody out there listening should.
You can go to Frank's Speech, my website, and you can see all the movies I have there that I've been in.
But this one was a movie.
It was flying out to California.
I was, and we just got up to 10,000 feet and I remember saying a little prayer in the front seat there going, on the bulkhead, going, okay, God, what do I have to do?
I know I've seen this in a dream.
What do I have to do with Donald Trump?
And I need an answer.
And at that moment in time, my phone dinged.
It said, Mike, this is Donald Trump.
It was an email.
This is Donald Trump.
Will you meet me at Trump Tower in New York City?
I'm going, God?
You know, I mean, for me it wasn't, I was going to meet Donald Trump.
I was answered in real time, and I'm almost in tears, the flight attendants going, are you okay?
Yes, it's a miracle, it's a miracle!
And the guy next to me, I don't think he can speak English, he was all worried about me, and I'm going, no, it's great.
Well, things started happening from that point on that are basically impossible.
I mean, then all of a sudden I'm invited to the White House, Where if everyone's seen that where I get in there and I never thought I'd even be allowed within 10 feet of the White House with my record my past and and I get in there and there's a roundtable there's like all these people were invited these manufacturers in the country and
And this, uh, moment of backtrack a little.
So anyway, that meeting happens in the summer, August 15, 2016.
And that meeting came to fruition with Donald Trump.
And I remember overlooking Central Park at three in the morning.
I was with Kendra and I was just going, God, my, my, you know, it just felt that it would change history if I overslept or anything happened.
But all these things that happened leading up to that were absolutely impossible if God had been in the lineup.
I mean, we don't have enough time in a day to tell you all this.
It is in the book somewhat that I've explained this, but I already knew that there was something just so divine going on.
And I remember going in, they said, you're not going to meet him alone.
And they also said, whatever you do, don't tell him you were a crack addict and all this stuff.
Well, I get over there at 10 o'clock was the meeting, and sure enough, there's about six guys around me.
They all started getting pulled off, and pulled off so that it was down to one.
And then a gal that I had met, his assistant, I met two days prior, another Divine Appointment, she came up, his phone rang, came up, said, you don't have to wait for him.
And she brought me around the corner into his office, just like in my dream.
And it was just him and I, and he walked up and he says, Mike, you always wear your cross?
And I said, yeah.
He said, are you a Christian?
I said, yeah, Mr. Trump, this is a divine appointment.
But it was so natural.
I wasn't nervous talking to him.
And almost right out of the gate, I said, yeah, I used to be a crack addict.
And I kind of looked at him like, you know.
And I said, I'm going to have a network to help addicts.
It's going to be called the Lindale Recovery Network, which I have.
The LindaleRecoveryNetwork.org, everybody.
It's free.
Go there.
Anybody you know you think is incorrigible, send them there.
Getting off your addictions is just a bonus, but it'll get them to Jesus.
That's the big win.
And anyway, he said, we were talking, he goes, yeah, I'm going to stop the drugs pouring in.
I'm going to shut down that board.
But it was just two people talking.
He had no agenda other than he wanted to know how the pill is.
You know, you make your stuff here in the U.S.
Is there anything, problems?
But he's asking my opinion.
Here's some, you know, X-crack.
I asked him my opinion.
Anyway, when we left there, I went and talked to his employees.
Kendra and I did a lot of them.
And every one of them, no matter who we talked to, said the same thing.
Great man, great boss.
And he had done something for them personally to help them.
And so I was just validating him.
The man I just met talked to for almost an hour.
I've been to a lot of places.
You read my book.
I've had guns to my head.
I've had to read a room when I own a bar for 13 years.
I had to read what everybody was thinking, what they were going to do, how they were going to react to different things.
He just had a heart there that was just...
You know, I want to help the country.
I want to save the country.
I want to help people.
It was amazing, and it was a good problem solution.
I thought, wow, anything he says there, if that works, it's like, you know, it made sense to me what it would manifest to to help all people.
Well, I went back to Minnesota.
And I couldn't wait to tell everybody.
I was the media's darling, everybody.
I was the media's darling.
I could say, I'm going to walk across the street, they'd say, how fast?
How many people are you hiring today, Mike?
You're hiring all these ex-addicts, a company of second chances.
You're the American dream on steroids going from a crack addict to this huge company of my pillow.
Remember by then we were in every box store in the country, the number one selling product
in every single box store in this country, bar none.
From your Walmart to your Costco's to your Kohl's, the number one buy through of a $60 product.
Same way with the shopping channels.
So I get back there and I'm going, I didn't know that politics would be,
that they would be, you couldn't say who you liked or whatever,
So I went back and I told my board, I said, yeah, I met Donald Trump.
I'm going to, I want to do a press release.
You guys should, he's amazing.
You know, all this stuff.
If he does this, I don't, I've never met a president before, but this guy, I mean, he's president, he's going to do some good things.
And, and my, I remember my one, uh, Actually, he's a Democrat, but he says, Mike, you're going to ruin our company if you do this press release.
I go, you'll lose half our business.
I go, why would I lose half our business?
And I walked out upset, and my CMO, she came out, and she goes, we didn't get this far by you not listening to God.
Remember, I would pray and be proactive all the time, even though I wasn't saved yet.
That was an amazing story.
I would always talk to people, talk to people, and I process it by telling them stuff, even about God and Jesus.
Like, back in my old days when I had the bars, and the next morning, after we'd be up all night on cocaine or something, the next morning they'd say, they'd find Jesus, and I'm still going, you know, I read about him in jail, you've got to hear about Brother Lewis.
Mike, we're going to take a quick break, and we're going to come right back, so hold that thought.
We'll be right back.
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You are watching Grace Grace with Nina and Michelle with our very special guest Mike Lindell.
Such a fascinating story.
Mike, okay now.
Now you've got Jesus.
What is going on?
How are you?
Well, I wasn't to Jesus yet.
Let me tell you.
Yeah, what happened then, so they, in the summer of 16, after I met him on August 15th of 2016, when I came back, I did do that press release against the advice of my board, and when I did the press release, all I said was I met Donald Trump, and remember, I was the media's darling, and I didn't even tell him what we talked about.
And they attacked me like you wouldn't believe.
I think one of them, the Star and Tribune, and one of their things there, they did something about the biggest drug dealer, Mike Lindell, dealing drugs in the Twin Cities.
I said, even my drug dealer stuck up for me.
Mike's never dealt a drug in his life.
He tried to rid Minneapolis of drugs by doing them all.
But it was devastating at the time.
They attacked me and I guess that was probably training for what was going to happen down the road years later.
The Better Business Bureau took my company from an A plus to an F. We were up for their highest award, their torch award, all because I went all in for Donald Trump.
And it was disgusting.
By the way, it's still an F. That's just fantastic.
But then I ended up, when I went to the White House, I remember going, there's like 18 people around this table or 16, and there's this empty seat sitting there, and I'm going, and it was surreal.
I go, wow, I can't even believe I'm in here.
And they go, yeah, the president's sitting there.
He wanted to sit by you.
And I'm going, what?
Well, when that went live to the nation, it was It's just me and him in that picture.
And I think all my crack friends that were left out there, these crack addicts, I think that day they all quit because they go, what is this crack addict doing next to the president?
Jesus is real because this would be impossible.
And you got up to, and now I'm going to tell you, so all these things that happened leading up to that, I kept going, okay, this couldn't be happening if God wasn't real and Jesus wasn't real.
And I went into a retreat, it was called a Drop Zone.
It's for veterans, but by another divine appointment, I got in there, even though I'm not a veteran, and I went in with so much hope.
That I could get what Kendra had, this personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
And on the second day, on February 18th, everybody, 2017.
Remember, I always wore my cross on TV and stuff.
I wore it everywhere I went, even back in the crack days, because I really wanted to be that person.
I did a full surrender on February 18, 2017.
Forgave myself the stuff I hadn't forgiven myself of that happened in the 80s where God had forgiven me.
But one of the things coming out of there, it was such a relief.
That I didn't feel the weight of the world on my shoulders.
It was like, it didn't matter what I said.
I would say stuff from my heart.
Two months after that, I was at a big Christian event at US Bank Stadium with 50,000 people, and I led them in prayer.
And I just told a little bit of my story and led them in prayer.
If you'd have told me that I'd be doing that, I would say, zero chance, okay?
Zero.
And I remember going to Amusement Park with my granddaughter a couple weeks after that, and all these kids, 17 to 22 years old, coming up to me that were at that event, saying that that's what they got out of it.
Many of them going, you know, your story and your prayer.
It really showed me that I was on the right path and that confirmation.
But then, of course, then you roll up to the 2020 election and.
And you get up to there.
We were continually attacked, but not like when you get up to the 2020 election.
And after that election, I look at numbers every day, mathematical numbers.
If I see a radio show or a commercial that either did really good or really bad, That's a deviation from normal.
And I dig into it until I find out why.
It's all mathematics.
You need a different input to get a different output.
Something had to happen to make that change.
If you've got the power of numbers, things don't jump up or jump down.
Exactly.
And speaking of numbers, we have zero seconds left of this segment, but we're going to come right back.
So we're going to have eight minutes left, and so we want to hear everything about the elections and all that you're doing, because we're proud of you.
Okay, we'll come right back.
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Welcome back to Grace Grace with Nina and Michelle.
And we are here with Mike Lindell and his fabulous story.
Mike, fascinating.
Tell us what's next.
Well, so then we were up to the 2020 election, and what I did, in November and December of 2020, I looked into my own, I dove into it, going, this doesn't make sense.
But what I did is I got voter rolls, and of who voted, how many voted, and who voted, and who registered to vote, and all these things, and I ended up getting them in all 50 states.
But in November and December, every one I was getting, One of the things that didn't make sense, like, I would look into Nevada.
Well, you know, I don't know, 6,000-some-odd people voted that didn't live in Nevada.
In Nevada, you've got to be a resident 30 days at least and check into the rules and go, this doesn't make sense.
Or you check a county or a Minnesota, Wisconsin, didn't matter.
Everywhere I looked, you had non-residents that voted or people that I found out later that weren't even alive.
But one thing that didn't make sense to me was, gee, OK, there's 5,000 people here.
I'm going, let's all get together.
I'm going to grab a group of 5,000.
We're all going to run into Wisconsin.
Who wants to go to Wisconsin and vote for Biden?
I mean, these are crimes.
And I just couldn't imagine this many people, not even close to that, wanting to go.
Commit a crime by voting somewhere else.
And so that didn't make sense.
And then we got to January 4th of 2021.
And I remember being, by that time, everybody knew the election was crooked.
Everybody knew that, I mean, that it was stalled.
And I mean, everybody really knew that.
And anyway, on January 4th, I'm down in Georgia with our real president and And it was for the Senate runoffs in Georgia.
And I sat and I go, all of a sudden they hit me.
I got and prayed and I said, Lord, please have them steal both of those senators.
And everyone's going, I've done this in my speech.
Why would you do that, Mike?
Your prayers were answered.
Yeah, my prayers were answered.
Here's why, everybody.
If I was my marketer for evil, And this is the uniparty, deep state, globalist CCP that took our election.
This isn't a Democrat-Republican thing.
I hope everybody realized that.
But anyway, if I was their marketer, I would have said, give them back a Republican so they shut up about this election.
Because they were caught.
They were caught.
And instead, evil is greedy, everybody.
That's a big advantage we have.
They stole them both.
If they'd have gave one back, everyone would have said, hey, we still got the stamp.
Let's get them back in 2022.
You know, the traditional, you know, teeter-totter, back and forth, back and forth of this unit party.
But instead, they stole them both and everybody remembered where you were that day.
And you were scared.
But they had a safety net and that was January 6th.
January 6th plan, what it did is it went into the two, really two important dates since January 7th and 8th of 2021.
1.2 million Americans were deplatformed.
Yeah, Vimeo, YouTube, Suckerbox, Facebook, Twitter, all these.
The president lost 100 million people on Twitter.
Parler was deplatformed.
And anyone that spoke out about God, against the vaccines, or the election, they were deplatformed.
Now, everyone else was- We were shut down, too.
We were.
Right.
And everybody but everybody else exactly what anyone else was afraid to say anything.
So they were silenced like like Nazi Germany.
Now let me tell you this.
That was when I grew up.
It was like black and white TVs.
If you turn them off and go down to this little tiny dot and we as kids we turn it back on it would come back to life.
Well that dot was so small and that was our voice.
But our voice did not go out those days and that's the day we started winning.
On January 9th by the way I was given evidence That explained everything, and it was done with computers.
And I'd never let up from that day.
And what's happened over the last three and a half years, everybody, this is why I call 2020 election the most important election in history.
If Donald Trump would have been put in right away back then, we'd have lost our country forever.
And for that matter, the world.
Because we had to find out, it had to play out the way God's intended.
Over the last three and a half years, we've learned that the unit party Republicans that have blocked everything, we know where the blockers are, we know where the evil lies, things have been exposed.
People that were, when you talk politics, that were on the left have now come to the center going, this doesn't make sense why they're doing stuff to destroy our country.
And There's a bucket.
I told our real president, you have two buckets going on.
You have the bucket of common sense, the new Republican party, his bucket.
I said, they're pouring in from both sides as they continue to attack him.
And now I'm even being shot.
People are pouring into this bucket and he doesn't give them a reason for them to leave.
Okay.
This is, they just keep coming in from both sides.
Okay.
Then there's another bucket going on and that's the bucket of Jesus Christ.
People don't reach out to God when things are going good.
Amen.
They usually do when things are going bad.
And we're in the biggest revival for Jesus Christ in history right now.
And all the stuff I tell people all the time, because they say, Mike, you know, when you spoke at the White House a few years ago and you say, God's given us grace for such a time as this, this doesn't feel like grace.
And I go, oh, but it is.
This is the best time in history to be alive.
God's given us grace for such a time as this to get everybody to God for eternity.
So it's very beautiful.
Mike, it is beautiful.
Well, Mike, we have about two minutes left and we'd love to hear what you'd like to say to the viewers.
Yeah, what I'd like to tell everybody is there's great hope going on right now.
You need to, there's a couple of things.
One is go to LyndalePlan.com.
Everything I've laid it all out there, what to plan to secure our elections.
Now, obviously we can't get rid of all the computers right now.
By the way, there's 137 countries that have outlawed the computers in their voting.
And over a hundred countries have outlawed early voting and mail-in voting.
But we gotta deal, like I told our real president, with the platform we have right now.
One of the things I want everyone to do is secure.
Go get your mail-in ballot.
Get your mail-in ballot.
Don't open it.
And then when you go to vote on election day, if they say you've already voted, you pull it out and say, no, I have not.
That then becomes identity theft.
You all need to download the Frank Social app.
Go to the app store, put Mike Lindell apps, get both Frank Social and Frank Speech, but Frank Social is our election app.
It's a computer report real-time crime.
You can find out what's going on your own county.
You can check out the plan at lindellplan.com.
You guys, we got one shot at this.
Everybody has choices.
We can pray, and God's giving us grace right now, but we all have to do our part.
We all have a calling for such a time as this, and you all got to be courageous.
Don't look out there and be afraid.
This could happen to me, or my business could happen like what happened to Mike Lindell.
His business is the most attacked business in history.
If we don't have a country, we don't have a business anyway.
That's right.
So everybody, this is it, everybody.
That's right.
And right now, too, I want to say, if you can't go out and witness for the Lord right now, you're in the wrong business.
This is the time.
The things going the way they are.
You can go out and be a witness.
If somebody's in addiction, don't give up on them.
Send them to lyndarecoverynetwork.org.
All the addicts out there, they're going to go there.
They've got a phone.
They're going to go check it out.
And people, you've just got to, we've all got to, we've got four months left.
Things could get worse before they get better, but you know what?
This is all part of God's plan, and when we get out to this amazing place we're going, you're going to look back just like I did on my life, and you're going to see everything had to happen just the way God intended.
If you Google the word patience, you're not going to see a picture of me there, but I've yet to learn that.
I've had to learn patience.
Well, I think it should be next to standing courageous.
We are so proud of you for standing for the Lord and you have stood and you have endured.
And so we appreciate you.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
I love your story.
Thank you.
God bless you.
And we pray for you right now in the name of Jesus, that God's hand would be on you, keep you safe and secure, and lead you and guide you with wisdom and strength in all that he has you doing.
May everything you touch prosper and succeed for the Lord and for his kingdom.
In Jesus' name, amen.
God bless you, Mike, and all that you're doing.
And for this country, we are so grateful.
We love you.
God bless you.
We appreciate you.
Thanks for having me on.
God bless you.
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