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The judge actually agrees.
We have this from Mark Levin.
The grotesque trial charade gets even worse this morning.
The Stalinist clown judge directed the jury that they can choose among three areas of crimes to convict the former president.
One, violations of federal election law, which no one in the courtroom is familiar with, and the judge barred Brad Smith from testifying about.
Two, falsification of business records.
And three, tax violations.
Of course, the issue for all of the above is the requirement of criminal intent.
Furthermore, the idea that jurors can pick one of the three and they don't have to unanimously agree on which of the three is another shocking development.
Moreover, the federal campaign violation has still not been defined.
Now, here's where it gets good.
The corporate press, of course, is playing the game where they create their own conspiracy theory and then debunk it to trick people into not realizing what's going on.
The AP says posts misrepresent New York judges' instructions to jury in Trump hush money trial, claiming, That the claim is that the judge told the jury they don't need to have a unanimous verdict.
Nobody said that.
We're talking about the underlying crime.
That's what Jonathan Turley pointed out.
There's a Mark Levin point of basically every pointed out.
Everyone pointed out that what they're saying is if the jury says, yeah, Trump falsified a record.
What is the other crime he's covering up?
The judge says, you pick.
It's up to you, because there's never been one.
They don't have one.
So, buried in this AP assessment false, Merchant said that to convict Trump, the jury will have to find unanimously on each of the 34 felony counts.
And then when you go down, they actually break down Well, not really.
The judge told the jury to convict Trump on any given charge.
To convict, they'll have to find unanimously.
They all must agree the former president created a fraudulent entry in the company's records or caused someone else to do so.
They say the crime Trump committed or hid is a violation of New York election law, making it illegal for two or more conspirators to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.
Mershan gave the jurors three possible quote, unlawful means, aka crimes, that they can apply to Trump's charges.
Falsifying other business records, breaking FEC law, or submitting false information and tax return.
For conviction, each juror would have to find that at least one of those three things happened, but they don't have to agree unanimously on which it was.
This whole time we've been wondering, what is the underlying crime?
They took a misdemeanor beyond the statute of limitations and said, yes, but he was concealing another crime.
Therefore, it's now a felony and we can charge him.
And everyone said, what's the underlying crime?
Oh, and the jury can figure it out if they want, but they don't got to be unanimous.
This is a rigged trial from the judge.
Welcome to 2024.
I'm not convinced that I think there's a decent probability Trump gets convicted.
I don't know.
What you do about a situation that's so convoluted.
The feds don't have any kind of authority to step in.
And it seems like the entire Justice Department of the state of New York is going to allow this.
I mean, it's on its face, it seems completely and totally ridiculous.
It also seems like everyone's kind of like, well, you know, once it gets to appeals, it's going to be obviously overturned or whatever, which would be the right thing.
But it's still it's I.
I'm still just like, I don't, I don't, I feel like... How long does that take?
Yeah, I feel like there needs to be some kind of remedy to, I wish, or I feel like there should be, even if there isn't, some kind of remedy to stop this, but I don't know that there is.
It's weird that the prosecution doesn't have to be specific in the crime that they're alleging they're trying to cover up.
I feel like that's part of the Constitution!
It reminds me of, you know, that show, Whose Line Is It Anyways?
And Drew Carey would always be like, well, the points don't matter.
Like, that's the prosecution right now.
The crimes don't matter, as long as you convict.
Which is obviously, to me, an abuse of the justice system.
And, you know, you're completely right.
This, if tried as a misdemeanor, they couldn't have brought it after 2019.
And it wouldn't come with the jail sentence.
So there's this weird, it all comes down to the fact that they were trying this as a felony, but the judge just said, But just forget about the stuff that would make it a felony.
You can make that up as we go along.
This is not the one that they had to change the statute of limitations.
No, no, no, no.
That was the Stormy Daniels one, right?
No, no, no, no.
This is the Stormy Daniels one.
E. Jean Carroll was when she sued Trump.
So that was finished.
They created a new law.
It's all so insane!
This is the anomalies of times we're in.
It's like, you know, none of this has ever happened before.
No.
Ever.
And, you know, I live it every day, different things.
And I watch our real president and what's happening there.
Can I say that?
Our real president.
Well, he really was a president at one point.
Well, he's Mr. President.
Yeah, right.
But anyway, these are times where, you know, it's like, you know, so many nonsensical things and you just gotta look at what's the real agenda.
There's another agenda if you can't make sense of it.
You know, I think it's backfiring, though, I really do.
I talked to our president, I'll say our real president, the other day, and he talks about, you know, all the time, this weaponizing against him.
But he gets to come out there, he thinks of the positive, at least he gets to talk to worldwide media.
I mean, I don't care if you're Democrat or Republican.
I go everywhere in the country and they're seeing through this.
So I think there's actually good that's going to come out of it eventually going, hey, we can't ever let this kind of stuff happen again.
But there are people that are a Trump supporter saying.
Right, like Normie's independence won't care.
Biden, what is this, Biden's supposed to have a press conference when the verdict comes out?
Is that what the plan is?
That's what I heard.
And of course, if that's the case, because that's the rumor going around, or it may be definitive news, I haven't checked, but if that's true, we all know what he's going to say.
He's going to say Donald Trump is a convicted felon.
Do not vote for this man.
And a lot of people are going to just be drooling into their laps going, okay, Right.
Yeah.
But you know, but you know what?
It's like this has been going on for so long.
It's like, you know, the kid that called Wolf, the little boy that called Wolf, it keeps going on and people are seeing through it.
And I'm not just people on the right or people on the left too.
I did say, it's like their eyes are getting open that this is a, this is a weaponization against all of our rights.
You know, I've, you know, I've got things that have been, that are going on.
And I really think that People see through that.
Any other time in history, you could go back and pick any indictment that he's gotten or anything that's happened, and they're done.
Your political career is over, you know?
I take, even myself as a businessman, you know, I get, well, they couldn't get my pass, so he's a crack guy.
Yeah, I admitted it, so I said it right away, right?
But, you know, you get a phone taken at a Hardee's drive-thru, everyone's going, and normally, in a normal world, they say, what crime did you commit, Mike?
What did you do?
after you. My buddy that was with me going hunting, coming back for a hunt, he was scared
to death. I'm going, what did I do? I want to be arrested.
They wouldn't arrest me. I mean, we're living in some weird times, because of crazy
times.
This is the terrifying reality of our current state, the current state of our country. The
court of public opinion controls everything, basically.
And so what's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty isn't anymore.
People watch you get arrested.
They just assume the government is right and you're a bad person.
There are some polls though that have said that Trump could win independence.
A conviction could help Trump with independence in certain states.
There's one from Jefferson College.
I believe even more than that.
I told him the other day, I said, you have a bucket here of common sense bucket.
And I go around, I've got a thing.
I just was in the heart of Chicago talking to Democrats here that voted for Biden.
They're now voting for Trump.
And I asked them why.
You know, I went around and asked them all why.
I had 500 of them in a room.
And you ask them why, there's different reasons.
Well, one of the biggest thing is what they are, economy right now and the border open and the fentanyl pouring in, things like that.
But they're also looking at, as he's getting attacked, You know, they're flipping into this bucket of common sense going, you know, I told you on his first indictment, I remember saying, you know, his polls went up and I said, man, you keep getting indicted, your polls, you're pretty sure you're gonna have more votes than voters like Pennsylvania.
They have more votes than voters every election in Pennsylvania.
Well, they're really good at what they do.
It is wild though.
I mean, I think Trump has really struck a chord in the way that, you know, progressive sort of activists in these ADAs and district attorney's offices couldn't have predicted.
Like, being somebody who is being sort of chased by the federal government, who is being persecuted on the level that he is, really won his hearts and minds of people, especially people who are not that interested in politics.
Right.
And I live that.
They come after me and my business just because I have a big platform out there.
I know so many small businesses that have been just attacked and they're done with what's going on.
anyone who doesn't have any means of fighting a corrupt judicial system.
And I live that.
They come after me and my business just because I have a big platform out there.
I know so many small businesses that have been just attacked and they're done, you know,
with what's going on.
They don't have a voice.
They don't have a voice.
And I think you're right.
You've hit a touch of court with people out there going, what if it was us?
If they can do it there, they can do it here.
I don't care what party you're in.
I like to point out Fareed Zakaria on CNN saying this case would not have been brought against a person whose name was not Donald Trump.
It's a really stupid way of saying they only brought this case because it's Trump.
But when CNN is saying that, regular people hear it.
And then when you hear stuff like this, this is why the AP is trying to cover up for the judge.
This is the game they play.
Guys, for everybody watching this, I want to hammer this point in.
I explain this all the time.
Someone will claim something.
Someone will say, like, hey, I noticed a thing.
The corporate press will slightly alter the claim.
And then at the very bottom, explain that it was true the whole time.
So the example I have to give is Donald Trump will do a backflip, you know, and land perfectly
in front of everybody.
Right.
And then what the what Snopes and all these cover press outlets will do is they'll write,
did Donald Trump really do a backflip dot dot dot on Sunday morning?
False and big, bold letters.
Then it'll give you this huge two-page breakdown, and at the very bottom it'll say, while it is true that Trump did a backflip on Saturday, he did not do it on Sunday, when no one made that claim.
And to exemplify this, we know for a fact, the judge said, the underlying crime can be one of three, so long as you agree at least one of them was broken.
Even if you don't agree that he broke all of them or you're not even unanimous, it's
fine to convict him on the first charge.
What they've changed now is according to the AP, they're saying the claim is that you don't
need a unanimous verdict to convict Trump.
When the claim was always you don't need to be unanimous on the underlying crime.
What they've done is they've created their own conspiracy.
And what will happen now is regular people, you'll be sitting at dinner.
We've got the 4th of July coming up.
You're going to, you're going to come to the family and you're going to be at the lake
drinking a beer and you're going to be talking about this case and they're gonna be like,
no, that's fake news because I read in the AP and then it's going to be difficult for
you to try and explain how the AP lied by creating their own fake argument.
And then at the bottom of the article actually saying they don't have to agree unanimously
on which crime was committed.
It's incredible how they do this.
Yeah, absolutely it is.
I, you know, my personal experience with that, we were just talking before the show, the, uh, the, I have all the journal, I think every journalist in the world on my phone and, and they'll attack and attack.
I'll write these articles.
The headline will be, you know, Mike Lindell did this or whatever, or we talked about the warehouse.
Michael and Jill, my pillow's out in the street.
You know, the employees, they lost their warehouse.
Well, then you read down through the article and then you get the truth at the bottom.
But in the meantime, everyone's calling me up.
They're going, you know, what do you do?
You're on the street.
You lost everything.
Are you ashamed of what you stood up for?
But that for me, I've used that as a way to get the word out even.
And I was just saying, some of these journalists, I've actually become weird friends with them going, hey, you've got to bash me a little more because Otherwise your boss isn't going to print the article.
It'll be too good.
I've done it before where I've had journalists from the New York Times, the Washington Post.
I've given them my book to read.
I read my book before I give them a long interview.
Well, then they read the book and their articles are too good because they're torn.
And they never got printed.
And the one for the Washington Post, I re-shared it everywhere because it was like, wow, I can't believe it slipped by his boss.
All right.
But my point being is, people now are even getting wise to the articles you describe because you see these headlines.
But a lot of them aren't.
A lot of them are still part of the brainwashing.
You know, here's the headline, this is what the truth is.
But the truth has been twisted so much by the news, and it's disgusting the way they twist it.
Well, let's jump to this next one.
We got a tweet from the Trump war room.
It's click from CNN.
The no change in public opinion during the Trump trial.
This is amazing.
Check this out.
John, that it began, but apparently it's 44 days.
You crack the numbers.
You've run the numbers.
All right, let's take a look here.
Think Trump did something illegal in the New York cash money case.
I've been interested in whether or not these numbers would change at all during the course of this trial.
Simply put, John, they have not.
Pre-opening statements think Trump did something illegal.
46%.
After the direct examination of Michael Cohn by the prosecution, look at where we are now.
46%.
The percentage of Americans who think that the charges are very serious, in fact, dropped from 40% to a little bit more than 35% during the course of this trial.
So, yes, perhaps things might have changed with those 12 jurors, but when it comes to the larger American public, there has been no Change at least so far, John.
I really love how he had to write no with his finger on their stupid screen.
I like that he's presenting it as a win.
Any possible reasons why?
Yeah, I think the question is what's exactly cooking here?
Why hasn't there been much of a change?
Well, folks like you and me, real news junkies, might be paying really close attention to what's going on.
The fact is, most Americans Don't really care that much.
So closely following news about economy inflation, that's number one at 65%.
Look at immigration, 52%.
Election legitimacy, 49%.
Abortion, 47%.
All the way down on this list of issues tested by the Ipsos Knowledge Panel is Trump's court cases at 42%.
Significantly less than economy inflation.
The fact is, John, when we're looking at these numbers, what we see is Americans' minds aren't changing.
And a big reason why Americans' minds aren't changing is at this particular point, John, they are tuned out of the.
I'll just rephrase it for you, buddy.
They don't care.
Right.
They're wondering why their eggs cost so much money, why they can't afford broken bread.
And they know that Joe Biden's not the president who's going to fix the economy.
And Donald Trump is.
That's right.
That's it.
I told, I was talking, when I talked to our president the other day, when I say that, it's talking about Donald Trump.
And I said, you have this bucket here, this common sense bucket.
And I told him, you know, as things keep, he keeps getting attacked.
His polls keep going up.
And once you're in the bucket, I told him you've, you've given nobody a reason to leave that bucket because he can go back to point to December of 2019.
And all of us, our lives, no matter where you started or how many forks you ate with, your lives have somewhat improved.
With the economy all the time high, highest consumer confidence ever, and now the destruction that's going on with the economy and the borders and being the next crack addict worried about the addiction, the hopelessness with the fentanyl pouring across and deaths all over.
These things are driving people to this bucket of common sense and they don't care about all this nonsense that we're having to go through.
That other case where I'm sitting in Mar-a-Lago the other day where that one judge said Mar-a-Lago was worth like $18 million or some nonsense.
I'm going, this wing's worth $18 million.
I know what the properties are worth around there.
And you just can't put your head around this and going, what's going on?
What are they doing this for?
But I just think it's pure evil and it's backfiring on them.
Let's not just do one.
Let's do four indictments.
Let's just keep going.
We pile on, the public will just go away.
Right, and each case is the most important one.
Every time one hits, they're like, well, we weren't that serious about that.
We're really serious about the next one.
This is the big one here.
This always makes me laugh because CNN is almost like, well, you know, we have to justify because we thought people would be obsessed with this.
Because I assume CNN or maybe the prosecution would assume that as they present their case and the media freaks out about it, CNN covered it nonstop, that more people would start to believe that Donald Trump had done something wrong.
But in fact, the fact that there's no change tells you how ineffective this prosecution was.
And how siloed we are politically.
No, no, no.
There is a big change.
CNN's ratings have gone down.
That's so true.
And I think they're lying about their staying even.
They have to.
It's probably so much pouring into this bucket.
They got to go.
We'll just say it's even that it's not going up when really it's going up.
Right.
I do wonder how much you guys think the admission from CNN is going to actually move the needle.
Now, I don't think that actually anything coming from the courtroom is going to.
But I do wonder if like the people that have been spreading the narrative and the viewers
have been used to kind of allowing them to shift, you know, as the narrative shifts and
not really interrogate the change.
Do you think that this is going to move the needle?
Do you think that they're going to be like, well, maybe because CNN, you know, I mean,
how much do you think is going to matter if at all?
So a couple of years ago, you know, I was at a family dinner for Thanksgiving and it
It was very much the, you got your liberal family members and you got your conservative
family members.
And then last year it was, ain't nobody was with Biden.
Right.
So, so, you know, without getting into too many detail for too much detail for the sake of people's privacy, it was kind of like, you know, a couple of years ago, it's like, no, Trump's bad.
Oh, come on.
Biden's not that bad.
Last year was, oh, Biden's awful.
It wasn't a pro-Trump thing.
It was a, oh, I can't believe how bad things are getting.
That's exactly right.
And that's like, I just spent like a week in Chicago and I'm not kidding.
I couldn't believe it that these people, I went to the Capitol and all the, the Democrats there were coming up to me and asking me, cause they're, you know, I'm all for election platforms, securing our elections and they're coming up to me.
These are the politicians coming out to me.
Even they see what's going on.
I really believe that, that you look around and I don't, you know, it's a destruction that's going on, but it's actually, You know, all these things that's getting, you know, I call them Uniparty Republicans, I call them blockers out there, the Brad Rassenburgers, the Robin Voss of the world that I'm trying to get gone.
And these guys, there's been so much revealed and by...
This onion being opened up, you know, you know, what was the nonsense of shutting down the pipeline on the first day when he was in power?
The other stuff, more destruction than anything, you know, all the entrepreneurs in our country, the shipping charges, that's the stuff that goes with that is destroying and people, they don't see what's really going on there.
This mom, pop businesses where you have these shipping charges because of one thing, you know, you shut down, shut down the pipeline, you know, gas prices can control everything.
What I do believe when Donald Trump, I'll say when he's back in, that this can all be fixed, maybe better than ever, because we've all learned so much.
What does destroy, what is open, you know, open our eyes.
That board is disgusting.
I mean, when you have something that's going right, why would you not keep doing it right?
So Joe Biden shuts down Keystone, shuts down these pipelines, bans fracking on federal
lands and a bunch of Trump supporters are like, oh, look, gas prices are going up.
The media then says Trump supporters are lying because Keystone wasn't in operation.
It wasn't actually transporting crude, so it has no effect.
That's a lie.
What happened was there is supply and demand and there's future prospecting on the amount of supply that's going to be available.
When Biden shut down Keystone, basically all of the speculators and all the companies said, without this pipeline, we are going to be in a supply deficit within X amount of years.
That's right.
By now, to bolster our stocks of petroleum.
And then other speculators come in saying, oh, wow, I'm going to get rich when the price skyrockets, which cause, the speculation causes immediate prices of crude to go up, and then you feel it at the gas pump.
Right.
That's right.
It's all speculation.
And not to mention, 13 people on that pipeline committed suicide of those workers.
That was their job.
Yeah, it was disgusting what went on then.
They just shut it down overnight, and it was bad.
That's terrible, but people do need to take into account how just the policy decisions that an administration talks about, regulations that they discuss, affects the price of gas.
And we discuss how immoral it is that the Biden administration is taking, you know, oil from our strategic reserves because that leaves the United States in a even more compromised position internationally or on the geopolitical scale or whatever.
But the fact of the matter is, there are still things that the Biden administration could do that would help not just the cost of fuel, like gas, but the cost of everything.
Because the cost of gas is such a large part of every single thing we purchase.
Biden could come out and be like, I want to raise gas prices and they just go nuts.
The whole system would freak out because people start making crazy moves.
There was this moment when I think it was the Syrian electronic army, which was a couple
of hackers based in Russia, actually supporting Syria.
I think they were Syrian, but they were refugees.
They hacked the AP Twitter account, tweeted that Barack Obama had been injured in some
kind of attack.
And then the market just tanked.
And then when the AP got control back and then said this was a hack, it jumped back
up to about 90% of where it was.
What people don't realize is that was an instant transfer of probably hundreds of millions
of dollars from one, from one group to the next that could have just a tweet.
That's how simple it is.
So, what do you think happens when Biden says, I'm banning fracking on federal lands and we're shutting down a massive oil pipeline?
Gas prices are going to go up.
He could do something too, but he's so beholden to the...
The eco crazies that he's got to deal with in his own party.
Yeah, he did make environmentalism a huge part of his platform.
But I think actually a larger component would probably be the Saudis.
I think Biden's looking to cut a deal with Saudi Arabia of, okay, you keep the flow rolling, we'll cut down giving you control over supply so long as you agree to work with us.
You know, as to how the petrodollar works.
Earn favor with Saudi Arabia, you're going to make a lot more money as the main supplier.
We'll cut back, but don't do it out of turn.
We want to control how much you're actually putting out.
So you get more from... When Saudi Arabia dumps oil into the market, it affects the dollar, and so the U.S.
is trying to negotiate.
And then, of course, you get the Yemen crisis, the U.S.
supporting them.
Trump's not innocent there.
That's a whole other fiasco.
But I think Joe Biden is basically You know, I told this to Trump.
It seems like the MAGA platform is secure our borders, bring our jobs back, get the American workers back to work, boost our economy internally.
And the Democrat platform is, no, no, no, we don't need to do any of that.
All we got to do is send our men and women overseas to go fight in wars, to go blow up people and get blown up, and then hopefully we can control enough territory and energy that we can just take from everybody else.
That's not a successful policy in the long term.
It results in terror, blowback, war, and conflict, and nobody wants to spend money on that.
That's right.
Just like the warmongers.
I've seen something that was such irony.
It was just yesterday.
I think it might have been on Facebook or Twitter or something.
Here in California, so you take away your police and you have all these electric cars and all the stations where all of them were cut because there's copper in the lines, and all of them were ransacked.
I mean, hundreds of these.
And they showed all the copper cutouts, so they're sitting there, well, now you're going to have to hire, how are you going to place them, you've got to remake them to be, because people are going to keep doing it, they don't get arrested for anything out in California.
Yeah, people are cutting the Tesla, because there's a lot of copper.
There's a lot of copper.
That's crazy.
You know, once again, bad decisions.
One of the things when I met Donald Trump, people always ask me, it's in my book too,
but is when I met him in August of 2016, I never voted in my life.
I was next crack addict.
I didn't think politics meant a thing, right?
I got it.
You know, the world goes on and I never voted.
I was a crack addict.
One time on a show when I did my first rally, they go, you know, I was on a radio station yesterday.
There was like 20,000 people at this rally and I was first speech I ever did.
And I go, there was 20,000 people.
I said, I was, I mean, I was getting interviewed on a radio station.
They called me the founder of MyPillow and a former Democrat.
I said, I got right on there and corrected him.
I didn't, I didn't find MyPillow.
I invented MyPillow.
I wasn't a former Democrat.
I was a former crack addict and everybody laughed.
I go, no, really?
I was.
That's right.
But the point being what I was saying, when I met him, it was such, I met him August 15, 2016, and he invited me there just because I had my pillow made in the USA, and he wanted to ask me, this nobody from Minnesota that had built a company from, you know, being an American dream, and he said, how is it making your stuff here?
And he asked me all these questions, and then they said, now whatever you do, don't tell him you're a crack addict.
Right away I go, you know, I was a crack addict.
And I kind of looked at him like this, you know, and he goes, uh, I said, I'm going to have this network, the Lindau Recovery Network, it's going to be free to addicts.
And he says, and I'm going to stop the drugs pouring in.
I'm going to shut that border down.
But it was, it was so many common sense solutions to, you know, to, uh, I go, wow, this is like a businessman, like a CEO.
What is short, if a president, I never know what a president, you know, I never met one before, but I go, you know, that's what I went all in.
I'm going, man, if he really does this, this problem solution, And he has a gift of what it's going to manifest to help all people.
I always tell people, when government's making decisions that don't help either party, if it doesn't help any of the people, there's a hidden agenda.
You know, there's a hidden agenda, and it's not good.
Not good for you.
And that's it.
And that's why I wanted to secure our election platforms.
I mean, what's so bad about that?
We all want transparent, fair elections.
Yeah.
Well, not everybody.
Right.
Not the bad people.
Let's jump to the surf of the post-millennial.
Hunter Biden to sue Fox News for calling him a degenerate crackhead.
Heavens, why would they say such a thing?
Hunter Biden is preparing to sue Fox News for defamation, alleging the network exploited his drug addiction to dehumanize him.
His lawyers sent a letter to Fox News several weeks ago threatening legal action for allegedly collaborating with Trump operatives and pro-Russia nationals to defame him for profit.
The letter demands retractions, corrections, and on-air apologies.
Hunter Biden's attorneys told the Daily Beast they plan to file a lawsuit shortly.
Hunter Biden also expressed his frustrations in an interview with the outlet, stating,
I'm not saying my addiction is an excuse for my bad behavior.
What I'm saying is that my addiction is not an excuse for them to dehumanize me.
And then so dehumanize everybody from the addict that you pass it on the street
to the one that you live with. That is the principal motivating factor.
Addict, addict, addict, addict.
You know, crack addict.
He's a crack addict.
Smoking crack addict.
In response to a potential lawsuit, a spokesperson for Fox News cited the company's statement about constitutionally protected coverage regarding a public figure who has been the subject of investigations by both the DOJ and Congress and has been indicted by two different U.S.
attorneys' offices in California and Delaware.
And has admitted to multiple incidents of wrongdoing.
So in his book, he said he was a crack addict, a crack daddy, and a crack head.
You can't sue someone for that, you know?
Well, you know, maybe he thinks because Fox pays off on frivolous lawsuits, so maybe he thinks he's got a chance, you know?
Can I say that?
But that's true.
I mean, Fox is probably just going to be like, okay, what do you want?
The lawyers are going to go to Fox, and they're going to say, uh, it's a ridiculous lawsuit.
It's going to cost you $200,000 to go to court.
Right.
And this is where we're at.
That's another thing, too, that bothers me in this country with lawfare and everything else.
You can be right on something, and it costs you more to say, no, I didn't do this.
I'm in the middle of it.
I know.
You know, it's disgusting.
Not when you're suing, like, the government, right?
Like, if the government's coming after you, they can spend taxpayer money all day long, forever and ever, whereas you eventually, I mean, maybe not you, but the average American will run out of money at some point.
Right.
They took my cell phone and I sued the FBI and our government.
They never gave my phone back.
I took it all the way to the Supreme Court and they wouldn't accept it.
You know, so now I've got to shelf that over here.
They're never giving my phone back.
I use all my business.
I wasn't charged with a crime.
You can't just take... Nowadays, my phone is everything, all my business stuff.
That's crazy, you know?
And I kept fighting and spending more money.
I'm going, you know what?
I got other bigger fights, so everybody has to... And they still have my phone.
I have my grandkids' pictures on there that I can't get off of, you know?
Even the judges in Minnesota, the Supreme Court, they had Ninth Circuit or Eighth Circuit or whatever it was.
The three judges go, well...
Are you going to give us phone back?
Or can you just do a download?
No, we're going to keep this.
This is the lawyer for the government, right?
And then they asked, one of the judges said, well, what about client or attorney-client privilege there?
And he goes, well, we're looking through it all.
So that's like, okay, so you say, oh, we shouldn't have seen that.
We shouldn't have seen that.
It's like a jury, disregard what you just heard.
You know, it's bizarre, the weaponization that's going on.
And where you turned up, when you talk about defamation, and you know, you talk about my cases, you know, the electronic machines that were used by our government, they're basically our government device, you know, in all our elections.
You know, why should I and Sue just say, hey, I want to see inside them?
You know, I want some transparency here.
Yeah, Ian often says that election machines should, the source code should be open source.
Yeah, they should be open, you should be, we should all be able to see, show us what's inside.
I used an example once, I said, if somebody accused my pillow of having rocks and knives in it, Do you think I'd go around suing you all you just got?
Mike, we used him in our pit out here and we jumped him.
There's rocks and knives in him.
I wouldn't sue you for saying that.
I'd say, no, no, no.
Look inside.
It's beautiful, Patton and Phil, you know.
I wouldn't expose you, show you what's inside.
There was that guy who called your pillows lumpy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My lawyer, I said, you know, what a jerk he attacks my pillow and my employees, you know.
I think I called him a few names.
I probably should have said.
But no, but they leaked that out of their deposition.
That's supposed to be private, right?
They leaked that out.
And then the judge- See, they leaked it to make you look bad, but it was the
best thing ever.
It was so funny.
You know what the lawyer says to me?
Then he goes, in this case still going on, he goes, well, you know, the judge is going
to see this.
I go, well, good for her.
I got a big problem with Judge Wang out of Colorado.
And I do got a big problem with her.
You know what that judge did?
Here's what she did.
This lawsuit started in the summer of 22.
So it's so frivolous.
What I did is I, we put in for, you know, to get it dismissed, a dismissal.
Well, that's like, if I put a lawsuit against you or if anybody did it, that's your first line of defense is, Hey, I wasn't at that.
It's not even me.
You put in for a dismissal.
Well, this Judge Wang decided, you know what?
I'm not going to rule on the dismissal.
You go ahead and pay for discovery and everything else and move this forward.
If I didn't have the resources, if somebody off the street, if a judge did that to them and they were completely innocent, And they did that and said, you go spend all this money on lawyers and all this garbage.
It was wrong.
So this was nine months later when I was in that deposition and I let that Dutch Wang have it.
I said, you know what?
You either rule.
I don't care if you rule against me.
You don't change our country and, you know, change our country and set a precedence where every judge can go, oh, we're not going to do it.
I'm not going to rule on the dismissal.
You go into discovery.
I had had it with her.
You know what?
I went on my show that night and I just ripped her up one side and down the other.
But she ruled the next day.
She ruled against me on the dismissal.
But at least she made a ruling.
That's all I asked of her.
I just wanted the ruling.
But that lawyer, that was a whole other deal.
I mean, I let him have it.
Well, he attacked your integrity and your pride.
Yeah, he attacked it.
He attacked my pill, my company.
What does this have to do with you and your crooked client?
People don't understand that You know, they think this country was once... We've always been in some kind of conflict.
We've always been in some kind of escalating state of conflict.
But in the 90s, things were pretty okay.
The Democrats and Republicans got along on most issues and argued.
And so that's kind of where people are like...
That's when things were pretty good.
It was the 90s.
We disagreed, there was the impeachment, the scandal, but people generally got along.
That's right.
Today, we are back in this conflict state where, look, you probably know it better than I do, when it comes to lawsuits, one of the first things the lawyer asks is, where do you want to file?
If you file in a blue area, you lose.
If you file in a red area, you win.
It's unbelievable.
Mine was supposed to be filed while they're both in Minnesota, and they moved it all to D.C.
They moved all my cases to D.C.
One of them, I sued the other one first.
I sued them.
And they tell me, your lawsuits are no good.
Mine was ruled out.
Your lawsuits are no good.
We're going to dismiss those.
And now we're going to sanction you.
I've learned these new things.
Sanctions and you don't have standing.
I mean, the sanction was the worst.
I asked to see in my own case against a machine company.
I won't even name their name.
One of them, I'm going, I subpoenaed machines, some in Michigan, to get the machines.
It's my evidence, right?
It's a couple billion dollars.
I think I should get to see my evidence.
The judge ruled, no, you can't see them.
And even for asking you, they sanctioned me $24,000, my lawyers, for asking.
I mean, you can't make this stuff up, huh?
This is in D.C.?
In D.C.?
No, this was in Michigan where I asked for the machines.
And that judge there sanctioned me.
And then the media will use this.
Well, it was a Trump-appointed judge, Mike.
Who cares who appointed the judge?
The U.S.
judge is down in Georgia, where Obama appointed a judge.
Actually, it was three and a half years, this case against Crooked Brad Rassenburger down there, the Secretary of State, and the curling case.
Finally, last fall, she said, she made a ruling, said, hey, the experts have looked inside these machines.
And she said, we're going to bring this to court, or bring it to trial.
And she said, and if you question the machines, you're not a conspiracy theorist.
I was so happy I got to take off my tinfoil hat on national TV.
Jimmy Kimmel, he aired it where I, you know, hey, just because I want to talk about it doesn't mean I'm a conspiracy theorist.
So then it goes to her court in January in Georgia.
Guy Halderman, the expert, with a ballpoint pen, hacked into the machine in front of her and changed the election in five minutes.
Wow.
And so now she's in a tough position because she's still delivering.
What do we do now in Georgia to get rid of these machines that were proved right there?
There's problems.
You know, there's problems.
We're not turning over an election proving that.
You're just proving you can't use these devices.
That's all it is.
She's got to make a decision.
My guess is, well, let's just wait till after 2024.
You know, in Georgia, this is the third election in a row that waited with those machines for
a ruling on that case, where Crooked Brad Rasmur, the Secretary of State, a Republican,
the biggest uniparty blocker in history, keeps blocking down there and blocking and blocking.
And one of the things you said, I really believe when you say our country, when you talk about
this division, this argument, I believe what's going on now is uniting the people.
I think that I really do.
I think it's uniting the people where we're going to get to a common place going, hey,
we want to have the American dream here.
You know, we want to we want to live our freedoms.
We want to have, you know, it doesn't matter what party you're in, where you have the parties, the media will put this together that the, that there's arguments here.
And you, like you even said, as you get less arguments now, a year later or two years later at the dinner table where you have this divide, it's the bad things going are actually uniting.
Well, I think this is true of the judicial systems in the US, right?
I think it's actually a very bipartisan feeling to think that you're going to go to court, and if the judge decides they will rule against you, they could potentially make it extremely difficult for you, that the fees of fighting a lawsuit that maybe you really need to are so overwhelming that you could basically risk everything.
I mean, it's something that people of all political persuasions fear,
and we're seeing it play out over and over.
And in all kinds of cases, businesses, political, personal, I mean, it is something that I think the media thought,
oh, well, we'll scare people into believing that this is the way forward.
But actually what ended up happening is people are looking around going,
this system is going to break me, and I cannot keep up with it.
You're exactly right.
And I think for where God has put me on this platform out there,
where I spent most of my time in the inner cities of Minneapolis back in the day,
and like I say, I never voted.
And so out there, when they see...
When I see people all over the country now, it's like they don't come out to me, oh, you're a Donald Trump supporter.
No, they know that I'm out there.
You know, I didn't change.
I didn't change from where I was.
All of a sudden, I was the CEO of MyPillow.
I had an addiction network out there that's free.
I was put into this election platforms that I want to secure because it all comes from there.
If you don't have fair elections, everything stems from, now you could say the stolen election.
I'm talking all elections.
You know, I've went around the world.
I've went to France.
I've talked to France, Germany, UK, the Netherlands, all these places that have secure elections because they use paper ballots, hand counting.
Is it so bad that I voiced my opinion?
That's what I want.
That's what we need.
And I can prove it.
I can prove that those are the best system.
All it took is one judge in Argentina last summer to say, you know what?
We're going to go to paper ballots, Hancock.
They switched over in four months faster than the Netherlands did.
And they had their first fair and fair election they've had in years.
Taiwan did it.
Ecuador did it.
And these are things that I believe the public needs to see here because we have the worst election platform in the world.
We're worse than any other country.
Do you think that concerns about election security or election integrity are going to deter people from voting this year?
Do you think we'll have low or high voter turnout?
I think it's going to be the highest in history because it's flipped on that too.
People, people, I told this to Donald Trump too, I said, you know, I said, people are You know, you always say, let's get everybody to get out and vote.
Now you're saying, like, I'm from Minnesota.
It hasn't been read since 1972, okay?
We're the longest in the country.
And there, it's like, everybody's engaged to vote because they know, they believe that the system, that the elections are rigged and that the elections, whether it be the machines, the early voting, the drop boxes, whatever you want to call it.
And they believe that, hey, we've got one shot, and we've got to completely override this, and then we can fix the platform.
I'm out there fixing as much as I have.
We have over 250 counties that are now going to go to paper ballots, hand-counted.
You can check that out at LyndalePlan.com.
I have over 300,000 people in all 50 states, and we work from the county up.
Most counties can vote them out themselves and just go to paper.
I mean, it's so simple.
But these people that You know, they feel alone.
A lot of them are scared because they've weaponized against them, too.
And I will say they, and they go, well, who's behind this?
All I see in my biggest blockers are these Uniparty Republicans.
And I'll give you a really good example in Arkansas.
This is a red state, and you've got Cleburne County.
They voted in their own county to go to paper ballots.
And all these other counties were going to follow suit just a little over a year ago.
Well, this guy named Kim Hammers, he's a Republican, went to the Senate and shoved a bill through.
Here's the bill, how it reads.
If you go to paper ballots in Arkansas, we're defunding your county.
So right there, it's like racketeering going, hey, you either go, and what do you think Cleaborne County did?
They go, oh, we're sorry.
We even thought about it.
We're going to go back to the machines, you know.
Right, because whoever has the money is ultimately making decisions.
That's what I find really interesting about all of this, which is that, you know, today's voters, especially young voters, if you're being told constantly your vote doesn't matter because you're already in a state that's going to definitely go to whatever candidate or, you know, anything could happen with the ballots or whatever it is, like, it actually, my concern would be that it would deter people from participating in the system.
Normally it would.
Normally it would.
I'm from Minnesota.
I know.
Like, what good is it?
It's blue.
It's always going to be blue.
But here's another thing that's driving.
I believe this will be the biggest turnout in history for the whole country ever because of what's going on right now.
The destruction of our economy.
The things you listed up there, the number one was the economy, the border, the election platforms, those three things.
Well, you're still going to go vote because people know that everything comes from our election platforms.
We've got to use what we've got, however broken it is.
We've got to use what we got.
And people say to me, but people say to me, they go, because there's a big argument.
Oh, you got out there and be like the Democrats and vote early.
And I'm going, rubbish.
You know, that's me.
I'll say it straight out.
You vote same day.
I know from everything I do, you vote same day, you get out to vote.
Of course, if you can't vote early, but, but I tell people take those mail-in votes.
They drop like Michigan, 7 million over the state go, everybody Everybody just have at it.
Take your vote, your ballot that you got sent.
Don't vote early and go in there election day and if they say, oh, you already voted, say, no, I haven't.
It's right here.
Wow.
And that is going to be a great plan.
And it is at least 10 times harder for them to cheat on election day.
And that's coming for me.
I've spent more money and know more about that than these people out there that are saying that.
And I believe we're going to have the biggest vote ever.
Let's jump to this next story.
This is from the Daily Mail.
So this is not the first time we've heard this.
predicted the retail apocalypse issues another stark warning about the U.S. economy.
It's ready to crack.
Bob Nardelli, a respected CEO, blames the Biden administration.
So this is not the first time we've heard this.
There are numerous stories right now where tons of economists, CEOs are saying the economy
is on the verge of shattering.
Quote, what I've seen over the past three and a half years is that a series of debacles and missteps have created a tremendous pressure on the fault lines of our economy, and they're about ready to crack.
Whoever gets the next stint in the White House is going to be hit with a wrecking ball in trying to correct the missteps and the overspending of this current administration.
So we're in for a rough time, I would say.
Mark that.
Take a note down, screenshot it, put it in your phone, because when Donald Trump wins and the economy is in shambles, they're going to blame Trump.
And then when things start getting better, they're going to say, oh, well, it's in spite of Trump.
But I'll tell you this right now.
I can see it.
We can see it in the sentiment on the internet.
You can see it in all of the comments that we get.
And we can see it in ad sales.
We can see it in small businesses no longer buying as much in ads.
I don't know, you guys seem to be doing pretty well though.
You're on the rebound.
We are at MyPillow, but you realize with us, we're a little different.
It's every time you see a MyPillow ad, but if I only had to live on that, which times I only had to live on doing a little show.
So I want to make that as best as I can be, and it's tracked by a promo code and a 1-800 number, every one of them individually.
So if it doesn't make it, I don't run it.
So when you see a lot of ads we're doing, it's working.
Are we back to where we were?
No.
But the, and then part of that is the economy.
I can do, you know, I have to say, well, is it because of the attacks and everything we've had, or is it, you know, the economy?
The economy is definitely affecting.
I have another platform called mystore.com.
It's all entrepreneurs, USA made products.
I've, you know, I give them a safe haven.
All of them, without that, they were so hurting.
You know, they're hurting because of, like you say, shipping, everything else with this economy.
Um, I, I think, you know, you read that up there that it's going to clack the economy.
I believe if Donald Trump.
I'll say when he's in.
Just on the, what everybody knows, because he's already been there, done that, and now it's going to be done, now what he's learned, it's going to even be better.
I think everything's going to just be almost faster than you could ever imagine, you know?
And I really believe that.
Just on, you know, you see companies like when they do an IPO, just on the hope or whatever, you know, because he's got something to back it up.
You know, proof of concept.
That's what he is.
He is proof of concept.
People are going to... They announced that Trump wins, say, what is it, November 5th?
Is that election day?
Yeah.
They announced Donald Trump is the winner.
I'll say it's November 6th, two in the morning or whatever.
You're going to see the market first thing in the morning go straight up.
All three.
Everyone's going to be buying.
In 16, it started going up about, you know, right when they figured he was going to win.
And you could just see it moving.
And I didn't know anything about this stuff then.
And I asked a guy, I asked a friend of mine, I said, what does that mean?
He goes, it means Donald, somebody knows Donald Trump's gonna win.
Yeah, so Trump is securing the border.
Deportations, control of immigration is going to be better for the economy.
You get these leftists who are arguing that, no, no, the unfettered illegal immigration is good for the economy.
It's not.
It displaces low-skill labor.
It displaces the youth.
And so young people can't find work when they need it.
And they end up sitting around doing nothing, getting good at nothing.
And then by the time they're in their 20s, they're like, I don't know what to do.
Just like with the futures and the stock market that we were talking about.
When Donald Trump was elected last time, the business community was like, alright, this guy is friendly to business.
He understands how difficult it is to do business with all the regulations.
If you have him elected again, you're going to have the economy respond because the people that actually invest and actually build things are going to say, well, look, it will be a friendly business environment.
And signaling that to the economy is a big deal.
Like if you signal to the economy that it's going to be an unfriendly environment for people to invest, for people to try and build their business, they're not going to because the most important thing for most entrepreneurs is preserving capital.
Right, it makes me think of, because the Biden administration placed such a priority on all the environmental policies, regardless of how they affect your business, you'll see headlines that are like, you know, the last two coal mines in New England are shutting, or coal plants in New England are shutting down, and they tout it as this victory, right?
No more coal, it's evil, but they don't want to talk about the jobs that they cost.
They'll say, oh, well, anyone who loses a job because of this program, we're going to transition you into doing this new thing or whatever else.
But ultimately, they are pushing this environmentalist agenda at the cost of the economy.
Can you imagine being a business right now?
And all that is is a story.
All they have to do is be able to come up with a story.
Well, we'll go ahead and make sure people have jobs in this area.
People say, oh, OK, you have a plan.
And they never talk about it again.
Then it's fine.
Then it's solved.
But they don't think about the actual real human beings that have to go through the changing of jobs.
It's not as easy as, oh, well, we'll just get rid of your jobs and we'll plug you into other places.
Human beings are not cogs that can just be placed in positions.
Well, especially if you were someone who had worked in an industry for, you know, 20 years, right?
To be like, actually, now you have to be trained to work on EVs instead.
Like, what are you going to do at that point?
The biggest displacement of jobs, you know, Tim, if you hit it there, is this.
When I was in Chicago, I'm doing this big program, Flipping Democrats, right?
I'm going to flip them to this bucket of common sense.
And I've talked to them all.
We had the room full.
By the time we left, I think all 500 were flipped.
there were a lot of Hispanics there.
And all of them were very upset of the illegals coming in because they're losing their jobs to the illegals.
And I talked to that whole, I mean, one after another.
And then now you think of this, those illegals that are working,
you talk about money laundering, think of all the people that are hiring them
that are paying them cash and not paying their taxes on both ways, that they're probably undercutting them
in a wage anyway because they can save it both.
So I got a legitimate business with legitimate workers and the next door they got the illegal ones.
And of course, they're labor cheaper, everything's cheaper, and then I'm suffering here, and then pretty soon, this guy might make a bad decision, well, I gotta join and do the illegals too, and these guys are losing their jobs to this invasion.
People need to understand that you pay, I think, 7.5 as a worker, and the business pays 7.5% employment tax.
So if a guy comes in and he's like, look, I just need 20 bucks an hour, You go, okay, so after taxes, you're gonna take home, what, 16, 15, or 13, or whatever?
Right.
Then I gotta pay on top, so my total cost is gonna be 20.
Not interested.
Then an illegal immigrant comes in and he says, I also need $20 an hour.
And you go, you know, it's going to cost me $24 an hour to hire that other guy.
It's going to cost me $20 an hour to hire you.
And you actually keep more of it.
I'll tell you what, I'll give you $18 an hour.
You're not paying taxes anyway.
Saves me six bucks and you're making more.
And that's how they run it.
That's exactly right, and that's why I believe, I believe that's why they didn't make all the illegals legal when they had everything before, when the Democrats did, because I believe that there's all this big money in California, Texas, Arizona, Colorado now, and Minnesota, where they're paying all these illegals cash, and they're not paying federal taxes.
The business owners aren't.
Those are billions of dollars.
That's big money.
Now this is why they're going to.
Two big reasons why Democrats are going to give amnesty.
The first is, they want the votes.
The second is, they want the tax revenue to maintain the Social Security Administration.
The concern is that by 2033, the system starts buckling and breaking, and then by 2037, it's gone.
So they bring in 15 million people over the course of a couple years, then overnight they get 15 million new voters, they bolster their majorities in Congress, and they can now target these people with 87,000 new IRS agents to put money into Social Security to prop the system back up.
Good point.
Yep.
Very good point.
That's what they're building.
And then, good luck winning elections ever again when they keep flooding the country and providing amnesty.
Yeah, we get one shot at this, as far as I'm concerned.
We get one shot.
And one of the things at the rally I was just at, that I spoke at, and Donald Trump said, when he says, as soon as I'm in office, and he was naming the things, addressing all those top three, the third one he said, and I'm going to secure our elections, And to go to get to paper ballots and count and the crowd went crazy.
So it is that those three things you talk about the economy, the border and our election platform, you know, you secure those three.
And I believe we can preserve the American dream.
I want to tell a quick story.
You know, when you tell people have changed.
I was in California.
This was a couple years ago in California.
There's a thing all over the internet when I was there.
And this town was so depressed.
The gas was 780 a gallon.
It was everyone there was 25 to 30 years old.
I swear.
And that's where all the old vehicles were.
I wonder where all the old vehicles went, right?
And the town seems so depressed, but they're all coming up to me and talking to me and going, hey, Mike Lindell, Mike Lindell, and they're wanting pictures and stuff, and I'm talking to them, and almost all of them had voted Democrat, and they're going, you guys realize, I said, I don't know much about politics, but I said, this is $7.80 gas, and decisions that were made by Donald Trump manifested to good for everybody, right?
So anyway, I had to educate him.
Well, I went and ate at this restaurant, and this gal came out, the manager came out, and they took a picture, and they put it up on their social media.
The owner did.
Well, they got attacked by the media.
It was like the number one story in the United States.
Mike Lindell goes to this town, and they just attack this owner, and she wouldn't take this down.
She says, you know, all you take, you know, other famous people come here, and you don't put them up.
She goes, no, Mike's the only one that's ever come here.
Well, she stood her ground, and they were the busiest restaurant now in that California town.
Good for her.
But my point being, we left there then, so I seen that, and we went to the Hurricanes in Florida, and I went there.
Normally, you'd see it all over the news.
MyPillow donates $80 million, or 80,000 pillows to Hurricane Harvey, Katrina, whatever they were, you know?
But this time, I didn't say anything.
I never did in the first place.
I'm down there working with Samaritan's Purse, and we were in a Hispanic trailer court, And all you could see was their whirly possessions on both sides of these dirt roads all the way down.
It was like two dykes of just all their physical possession.
And we were praying with them.
We had interpreters.
We're giving them pillows and blankets, but almost bar none, they were coming up and they're going.
Um, all they wanted to hear about is our for country had a chance here.
The American dream, which I've lived on steroids going from where I have to crack a, but they have to they've came from places came from the bottom and they had built up their lives.
They knew if we could save our country.
That they could get those worldly possessions back.
The only thing they cared about was losing our country.
That they came in here legally and live here now because a lot of them have been to places that don't have our freedoms.
That meant so much to me.
And I think that's what you're seeing all around is people are looking for hope.
and it doesn't matter what party you're in.
Well, that's why I like the story that you're telling about this restaurant in California,
which is like people can supply each other hope.
They don't have to look to the government or politicians all the time.
Like the fact that this woman is being attacked, people are like, no, we're going to go to
your restaurant.
You do see that on occasion where people will say like, the way you're being treated is
wrong and I'm going to stand up in the way I can.
Maybe you don't have a media platform, maybe you just patron their business.
I think that's the thing that Americans are really craving right now, sort of amidst all the stress and bombardment of, you know, all of these negative headlines, people want to believe that things can get better.
And I think this has been the interesting thing of contrasting the Biden campaign's messaging with the Trump campaign's messaging, which is the Biden administration will say, well, we're the party of hope and we're a party of the future.
He said that at one of his rallies and then only talked about January 6th in the past.
And Trump really does feel like he is saying, like, things are rough right now, but we're headed towards better waters.
And I think people need that message, because otherwise it just makes you disenfranchised.
Absolutely.
You need hope.
You know, my network, and I'll say it at frankspeech.com, that's all I do is put out the hope every day, the things we're doing, being proactive.
and being proactive out there and where the hope is.
I tell people, I quit watching media, and even if I see people depressed out there,
I'd say, I watch Fox day in and day out.
Well, they're not gonna tell you the hope.
It's mostly depressing.
Here's what's going on that's bad, that's bad.
And I like to tell people, here's where we have the hope here.
Here's what's going on here.
People come, and you combine what's going on right now that's so sad is with the open borders
and the fentanyl pouring in, people that are losing hope are turning to addiction
or addicts are getting worse, and that's deadly.
And so that's where, you know, I'll go around the country and that's where, you know, I have the LyndellRecoveryNetwork.org is free.
I built it.
I put millions into it before all this election stuff.
That's what I was going to do, go out and evangelize and say, hey, there's a better way than an attic.
I always say, you wake up.
And with the same problem that you went to bed with, right?
No matter how long you stay up.
I used to stay up for days smoking crack and everything.
Wake up, had the same problem.
I'd say, you need a different input to get a different output, you know?
I got a question for you.
I got a personal question for you.
Was your pre-election, pre-2020 net worth public information?
Uh, it was, but I was pretty open with it.
I, you know, it was, you know, two, $300 million is what I think is out there.
Well, my question was how much did you end up losing for trying to do your civic duty?
Pretty much everything.
I spent $40 million that I had in cash on securing our election platform.
That's not the lawsuits.
That's just pouring money into, you know, everywhere to try and get to paper ballots and, and this fight to secure elections.
And then the attack on my pillow alone.
We lost $150 million in box stores in a month and a half, and we were their number one product in every box store in this country.
Everyone we had, from Walmart to Costco to QVC, that's a shopping channel, the shopping channel,
Bed Bath and Beyond Kohl's, we're their number one buy-through product.
And Walmart, in history of Walmart, the number one $50 buy-through was MyPillow,
not anything else.
And so it's not like they said, hey, your products aren't selling.
They canceled us.
And they were afraid of social media.
When they went after them, they thought those were real people.
These are a pain in the head job on my pillow.
And I told those CEOs and CMOs back in January of 21, I said, you're making a big mistake.
Like I talked to Beb Anthony on there, CMO, I said, you guys, those aren't real people.
The real people are going to be very upset if you do this.
But I wouldn't shut up on TV when I got attacked.
I'd go, did you hear about our elections?
Yeah, I know I got canceled.
I know I got canceled.
Heck, I canceled my Twitter and Newsmax, the guy tears his microphone off because I started telling him about why I got canceled.
But it was millions of dollars and we're not getting them back, you know?
There are a lot of people that, man, they can't go vote.
They just can't be bothered to take a day to get up, walk over and go vote, and you were willing to sacrifice hundreds of millions of dollars in a desperate plea to the people to have secure elections.
It's remarkable.
I appreciate your willingness.
Well, thank you.
And you know why?
It's because I learned how important they are.
You know, like I said, I told you, when I met Donald Trump in the summer of 16, I didn't know what liberal from a conservative, I didn't know what a Democrat-Republican was, if you go back to 15.
I was just so, you know, out there.
I was busy with my own stuff, my own life.
But I learned pretty quick that how important politics were in everything we're in.
One of the things with Donald Trump, they had an opiate bill that came out.
And this is right up my alley with trying to help addicts out there and lead them to God and to Jesus.
and this is when I was out evangelizing and stuff, but when he invited me to the opiate bill,
because in our country, 32 states have laws on the books, this is pretty crazy, that you can't treat an addict
unless you have four years of college, you swim the English Channel, climb three trees,
all these rules to treat an addict.
Well, I'll tell you what, you got places like Teen Challenge and Salvation Army,
you know who's, who were there, that's treating him or counseling him,
is people that have been there.
I've been to so many treatment centers back in the day that we did in the 80s.
You go get a DWI, you go to treatment, get your lice back, or a gambling clout, whatever it was, and we would go through the motions, and addicts have forgotten more about addiction than these counselors know, and they're looking for hope, and that's why my network, the Lindo Recovery Network, that's hope, and it's free.
Matthew Perry, the actor from Friends, he said during when he was filming that show he'd struggled with addiction and went out and started addiction recovery centers or rehabs.
I think probably similar reasonings, right?
Like if you have lost everything because of addiction, you might even feel more called to intervene in someone else's life and say, you know, we need to get you on a different path.
You've been there, and what I do at my network, you'll get to the website, you'll put down your age and your drug of choice, so the commonality of the drug.
The big thing in secular treatment centers, they have like a 5% success rate.
The God-based, the faith-based ones, 80% and up.
So what Donald Trump did with that opiate bill, when he did that opiate bill, everyone was arguing, fighting over this money, right?
And he came up with a plan, a common sense solution.
He says, you know what?
I don't care what your curriculum is or what you have to do, but you need to show a 50% or more success rate.
And they better do it, right?
So what a great thing that he put in place there.
Let's give the money to the things that are working, right?
And that was a common sense solution.
It's prioritizing effectiveness instead of being like, well, everyone needs the money.
But my point for him is to dig in, even on something like that.
These are big things that affect people's lives.
And I've seen how politics are decisions made.
I don't call it politics.
The people that are in charge, the decisions they make, affect everything we do.
Where before, I lived a life going, I can ignore that.
I was from Minnesota.
You know, my biggest thing in politics ever when Jesse Ventura ran, I kind of watched the TV go, wow, that's interesting.
I didn't know it, but I thought it was pretty cool.
It was interesting.
It was something different, right?
Let's jump to the story from the New York Times.
BuzzFeed clashes with Vivek Ramaswamy, the former GOP presidential candidate who has invested in BuzzFeed, believes the company needs to pivot.
He wants to see commentators like Tucker Carlson in its lineup.
Shoutout to Vivek on one of the ballsiest moves I have seen.
This is how you do it.
I don't know if Vivek is sitting there watching Elon Musk being like, I'm jealous.
He buys Twitter, turns it into X, brings a bunch of accounts back.
Vivek buys, what has he got, like 8.3% of BuzzFeed.
Sent a letter to the company's board of directors saying they've got to change their business practices and journalistic efforts.
They say though he has been steadily buying up stock for months, his intentions for the company didn't become clear until this week.
Before his brief run for president, he made a fortune in the pharmaceutical business.
He's pushing BuzzFeed to add three new members to its board to hone its focus on audio and video content and embrace greater diversity of thought.
Yeah, I gotta be honest.
If BuzzFeed brought on Tucker Carlson, their market value would go tenfold.
Bang.
I don't know if they can afford Tucker Carlson.
They've got to pay him a lot of money.
But they threw out also Aaron Rodgers and Candace Owens, right?
What he's saying is you guys had this old model and you had some success but it's all falling apart now and you need to adopt a strategy.
And I'm here to say, like, one of the lines in his letter that he wrote to them was, you know, I know you're going to instinctively reject what I'm saying because of partisan attitudes, but I think you should try and think about what I'm saying and the fact that 150 million Americans tend to look at the world the way I do.
Like, if you really want to be a sustainable business, you can't be siloed in one opinion.
And I found that really fascinating.
And I think, you know, the fact that he has a business background and seeing him sort of see this opportunity is fascinating.
Partially because this was like a stealth plan.
He started buying these in January, right?
And he basically acquired, you know, somewhere over 3 million shares.
Just really quietly, he did this.
Like, we were covered at Scanner last week.
I think it was May 22nd.
He had 7.7% of the company.
And since then, he's gone up above 8.
And his message was basically, I'm going to continue doing this, moving up his importance among the shareholders and saying, you could turn this around, but you have to do it this way.
And I find this fascinating.
Well, it's good.
It's a good business decisions.
You know, I have frank speech.com.
We're on everything Roku, everything now, but we add people.
I had Lou Dobbs for our lineup in January.
You're adding and getting the word out is, you know, to me for right now, I think the biggest thing that has changed in our country that's helped is that, and I bring this up all the time and this is our voice.
I tell people January 7th and 8th of 2021 were two of the most important dates in history.
Now, I don't know how long you've had this podcast, but I'm gonna tell you why.
On those two days, 1.2 million Americans were deplatformed, whether you were on Vimeo, YouTube, Suckabucks Facebook,
Twitter, Donald Trump lost his 100 million on Twitter and all this.
Everybody was silenced that had spoke out about anything to do with the elections
or for that matter, vaccines, anything.
Anything they spoke out about, that they decided to silence them.
But the other one, everyone else was in fear because of January 6th.
So at that point, no one's gonna talk about anything.
The media, they had silenced us.
Kind of like Nazi Germany.
So I always compare it when I was growing up to a little black and white TV.
We'd turn it off, it'd go down to a little tiny dot.
And we, as kids, would turn it back on and the black and white team would come back to life, right?
To see who could get it the smallest.
That voice was our dot that day.
And like Ronald Reagan said, you know, we're like a beacon of light on a hill.
If the lights go out here, they go out everywhere.
That's the day when we got past those two days where that voice did not go out.
Yeah.
And since that time we've grown all these other media platforms like this.
Podcasts have grown.
Everything's growing.
So we're not getting our information from one source anymore.
It's so diversified.
You don't have just two social media platforms.
You have a dozen.
You know what I mean?
BuzzFeed's market cap right now is around 120 million.
Donald Trump just got, didn't he just earn some 1 point something billion dollar bonus from Truth Social?
Trump could sell like 3% of his truth shares and buy of BuzzFeed. So let's say he doesn't do that. Let's say he
sells, you know, half a percent and then just buys a controlling stake of BuzzFeed. Let's
roll. What's he got going on?
Well, the CEO responded to this letter from Vivek basically being like,
you don't understand our market. You misunderstood. But as a shareholder,
I welcome your feedback. And I think that's actually, you know,
so BuzzFeed has had a ton of problems.
I mean, we've talked about on the show, they've had layoffs, they had to close BuzzFeed News.
But I think, his name's Jonah Peretti, and I think he is kind of becoming the obstacle, right?
Like any company is, they're responsive to the board and the shareholders, but if their CEO is like, no, we're doing fine, it's gonna need a change in leadership to embrace any kind of new idea.
All that matters is that Vivek keeps buying up more and more.
Yeah.
Right.
I think this works out in favor for Vivek.
When Vivek comes in and says, you guys are failing, you've got massive debt, you're hyper-partisan, you went from a billion dollar valuation down to less than 10% of your valuation, the CEO coming out and saying, nah, we're good, stock price going to go down further.
That's right.
I don't care if it's if it's a vague buying buying the, you know, with a hostile takeover
or if it's Elon Musk law faring media matters or if it's Peter Thiel going after what was
it who did Peter Thiel because of the Gawker Gawker.
Yeah.
Taking them out the whole.
Yeah, I don't I don't think this is a bad thing at all.
If you've got media companies or whatever that are targeting individuals that are going
after people and, you know, messing up their lives in a, you know, essentially just so
they can get a story.
Sometimes it's political, sometimes it's not.
But for the most part, it's just to get a story.
I mean, look, someone might come after you and mess up your business as well.
That's the way that it goes.
I don't see any kind of problem with it.
No, I think it's fascinating.
And again, I think because Vivek had such a meteoric rise during the Republican primaries, I think the question was, well, what's next for him?
And it is interesting to see someone who has been really successful in the pharmaceutical and biotech industry, you know, involved in drug tech research.
Uh, kind of pivot to being like, well, I can see that you were successful at one point, and I think I know where you're going wrong, and to sort of put this challenge out there to a media company, right?
Like, is BuzzFeed really trying to stay afloat, or are the politics the most important thing to them?
I actually was kind of surprised to see that BuzzFeed still existed, to be completely honest.
When I heard the story that Vivek was buying, I was like, really?
Because I know BuzzFeed News is one of those.
I think you're going to see a lot of shift in where you thought, like we thought, all these outlets that did destroy themselves, basically, that they're going to be taken and they're going to have to change.
Or they will go out and they will be done.
Look at this.
Number one trending story on BuzzFeed right now.
24 celebrities who are 100% all in for Donald Trump 2024.
Wow.
So it changes as soon as you click on the headline.
24 somethings you might not know are big Trump supporters.
That's not even a bad one.
It seems like, and there's nothing negative here, it's just showing them.
It seems like they may be listening to the vape.
I gotta be honest, I bet other shareholders are probably saying, Jonah, he ain't wrong.
Look at the meteoric rise of all of these podcasts and how well they're doing.
There's money here you're not tapping into.
Yes.
And so, you know, sooner or later, Pride is going to go to his executive editor or editor-in-chief and say, guys, we need more pro-Trump content.
You think that they'd look at Joe Rogan and be like, we could do that?
Yep.
It's not that Joe's got a great thing going on and his personality is a huge part of why he's so successful, but also his recipe is not particularly complex.
Have a conversation and listen to the person that you're sitting down talking to and don't misrepresent what they say.
Right.
I mean, look, famously, at least for me, BuzzFeed was known for its quizzes, right?
Where it would have these ridiculous quizzes, you know, tell me what your Taco Bell order is and I'll tell you, you know, your dream mansion.
I think honestly they could lean into this in a soft way and be like, here's a quiz where we'll tell you
what Donald Trump meme you are, or whatever.
Like it doesn't have to be like they become 100% go hard for the MAGA movement.
I understand that, right?
But if you're trying to capture more people, you have to present more than just this one side
is dumb and bad and here's how we're gonna talk about it all the time.
Why would anyone go there?
On top of the fact that especially a lot of their media ended up being just kind of repetitive.
You can't bring in new innovative creators, like people writing the articles or making the quizzes
or doing whatever if you're only siloed in one area of opinion.
You're not gonna bring in new talent by being like, but we only talk about things this way.
That's just...
The list is pretty obvious.
It's people you probably knew about.
But I did not know that the Naked Cowboy of Times Square was a Trump supporter.
Are you familiar with the Naked Cowboy?
I didn't know he was.
You've heard of him, right?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
It's funny.
He's been going on, what, 20 years?
How long has he been in Times Square?
It's been a long time.
That's wild.
Kelsey Grammer, a Trump supporter.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, that doesn't shock me.
They're all old people, though.
Old white dudes.
No, actually, and it's like young rappers.
No, for real.
I love that Trump is a thing those two groups have in common.
That's hilarious.
You know, look.
I was telling this to the libertarians.
The libertarian parties, unfortunately, like a lot of them, they're the people that pay attention.
And regular people mostly don't pay attention.
So for people who are hyper-plugged into the news and they want the most esoteric policies, They're going to be finding themselves in the Libertarian Party.
The realists, who are not revolutionaries who pay attention to the news, are going to find themselves supporting Donald Trump.
And the people who only listen to MSNBC and other regurgitated corporate garbage are going to be crying because Donald Trump is a fascist and they need Joe Biden to save them.
That's where we're currently at in this country.
That's right.
I think what we see with this Trump trial is the Democrats and the judge basically hoping that their voter base and what they're trying to do is they know we know.
But they're hoping the people who don't pay attention are just going to go, whoa.
Crazy.
Well, this is why I think it's too late for them because, like I say, in the last three years, people are getting their news, it's so diversified now.
They're not getting, like you're saying, you're staring at MSNBC and CNN hypnotized.
I know this from my own family members.
It's took a long time for my extended family to know where these guys have come at least to the middle.
And going because they quit watching those and they're they're doing just social media, but it's even changing there on social media I watched up.
I watched a little a troll fight.
Okay.
I always watch that I'll watch these bots and trolls fighting real people right and they're arguing with when there's Overwhelming them the trolls and boss a few years ago It wasn't like that you really and people don't realize all you got to do is click on the bot you see they have two circles going they don't have no friends right two friends and and they're in and But they'll sit there, and that has even changed.
You look at any feed, and you'll have real people here, even on a very left feed, you know, and there'll be this feed, and you'll see all these people there, and you'll have people there that have crossed over the common sense.
You can see that they used to, and now they're arguing on there, where before they're either sitting back and taking all this attacks, but now they're sticking up, and it's almost, you know, they're overriding the computer bots, you know?
Yeah, a lot of people, on Axe, people have complained quite a bit.
They're like, my engagement is way down!
And I'm like, because he got rid of the bots.
Yeah, that's right.
So a lot of the engagement is like a raw number, like percentage of people who viewed your tweet, or liked it, or not even, it's not even about whether they like it or not, or comment.
Right.
The government, corporations, foreign adversaries, they're running bots on X. And X probably loved it because they were like, it inflates our advertiser numbers, who cares?
Elon says we're getting rid of all of it.
And now you're starting to see the actual human interaction.
Yeah, you're 100% right.
I used to advertise, you know, everywhere and on that platform.
Twitter was my worst platform.
I'm going, how can this viewership be this high?
Because of the electronic or the bots?
100%!
I mean, when my book came out, even though it was banned everywhere, you know, right when all the box stores did it, you know, I pre-printed 3 million copies.
And all of a sudden, they're going, no, no, we can't have that here.
But I put it up on Twitter and put it all the other places.
And you would think that would get the most buys and most views.
It got most views, but it was bots.
And everywhere else, I'm going, that doesn't make sense.
I'm a numbers guy.
They're defrauding you.
Yeah, they're defrauding me.
I should sue them.
This is a big deal.
I'm paying money for advertising.
It's like going to a carnival.
You've got 100 fish in a pond, and I charge you $10, but I only give you bait that only 10 can bite on.
Because the other 90% aren't real.
Yep.
They throw a bunch of fake fish in the pond and say, yeah, you can go fish there.
There you go.
Fish away.
Look, they're everywhere.
And they know the views are fake.
They know the bots are on the account.
And this has been going on for, I mean, as long as it's been around, it's gotten worse and worse and worse.
Elon's cleaning the problem up.
Yep, he is, he really is.
Yep, so people need to understand, they're complaining about their viewership going down, but your engagements are real people now.
They got the blue check on them.
You know what my favorite thing about this was?
When Elon was talking about buying the platform and then charging money, I said this is the smartest thing in the world because it means that if the deep state wants to run sock puppet accounts, they gotta pay Elon to do it.
Elon's a businessman, right?
He looks at X and he's like, he goes to his friends and he, you know, like, what is it?
Gigafund or whatever, the investment company that works with them.
And he's like, so you mean to tell me that the deep state is running millions of fake accounts for free?
And they're like, yeah.
And so if I buy the platform and then charge them $5, I'll just make a hundred million dollars per month.
It's like, if they pay it, okay, let's buy it.
Let's do it.
It's a deep state weapon they use to manipulate public opinion.
Elon bought it.
They freak out and he's like, yeah, you gotta pay now.
Right.
And then they don't.
So here you go.
Right.
Check out this story.
Let's jump to the story.
The Guardian reports Trump reportedly considers White House advisory role for Elon Musk.
Let's go!
The Wall Street Journal reports the pair have had several phone calls recently and that Musk could assist if Trump wins another term.
You'll love to see it.
I said the two men who once had a tense relationship have had several phone calls a month since March as Trump looks to court powerful donors.
Musk and Trump connected in March at the estate of billionaire Nelson Peltz.
Since then, the two have discussed various policy issues, including immigration, which Musk has become vocal about in recent months.
America will fall if it tries to absorb the world, Musk tweeted.
So Elon was apparently on some advisory board in the first term, right?
And then ended up leaving or something?
I think Elon took a red pill.
I think he started to see more and more of what was going on.
He started to realize more and more of what he was being lied to about when they started attacking him.
You know what it was for Elon, probably?
Tesla, this amazing electric car manufacturer, should be cherished by all of these eco-nuts, and they kept attacking him.
And then Biden comes out and says all of these great things about these other companies, but not Elon, and he's like, whoa, hold on.
He's like, I'm making electric cars, we're number one, why am I not included in any of this?
And then he realized it's because it's not actually about what they're saying it's about.
And then one step at a time, he starts to realize what's going on.
He buys, he wants to buy Axe by Twitter.
They attack him and now he's just... Well, he's at the highest level of your eyes getting open.
If you take everyone in these last three years, the 2020 election to me will be the most important election in history for what it's done the last three years is open people's eyes.
And I'm talking all the, you know, and there's the highest level you can say, Elon Musk, his eyes got open.
I mean, he's got blinders on.
I think everybody was shocked when he, by his Twitter goes, wow, we have, you know, I got my Twitter back.
I'm going, you're kidding.
And all my people are still there.
Yeah.
I was blown away.
I'd be going, you know, it brought back my pillows, Twitter, you know, that, that one that got banned.
That was the first, when he went in Twitter there, you know, this, I always tell people this story when I got out of the news, when, cause I kept trying to raise my hand going, Hey, that, you know, our country, this has happened with our election platforms and all this.
And when they banned me on Twitter, My personal Twitter.
That was done earlier in January.
Well, all of a sudden the media wouldn't attack me anymore.
So it went silent.
So I'm going, well, what's going to make the news now?
I know.
What if I lose my pillows Twitter?
So I really, I sat up.
It was 12.
I'll never forget.
It was 12 o'clock midnight.
I'm sitting there.
I go, okay, I'm going to go over the last post on Twitter was from my electorate.
addiction director and she had wrote this beautiful thing, here's who Mike Lindell really is and all this.
So that was the last thing that was ever written before I lost my personal Twitter.
So I'm over on Elon, or I mean on Jack Dorsey's Twitter, and I'm over there on my pillow going,
Jack, we know, you know, and I'm putting comments over there and all the bots and trolls are going,
Jack, kick him, kick my pillow off, he's using another Twitter, he's been kicked off of Twitter.
And they're just attacking me and I'm going, I want to go to bed, so I want him to ban it, right?
So I can wake up in the morning and make all this news and start telling people about the election again.
He wouldn't take about three things, I go, I know.
I go, Jack, I go, I know you were in on this and I look forward to the day you go to prison.
Boom!
My Twitter went down.
I could go to sleep.
I wake up in the morning at 7 o'clock.
Number one story in the world.
My pillow loses their Twitter account.
That was new of our company to lose their Twitter account.
Wow.
Even though we weren't making a lot of money off because I told you all the bots and trolls don't buy pillows, right?
Right.
So I sacrificed that, but I was able to get the word out in the news, and that was a famous thing on being on Newsmax, where they were having me on shows to say, you know, you got canceled, Mike.
You got canceled.
That's terrible.
But I couldn't say why I got canceled, you know, because I wanted secure elections.
I couldn't say anything.
And here the guy rips his microphone off and walks off the set, which made the number one.
How did your employees react to that?
Because I assume your employees are not necessarily all political.
They're like, we like this pillow company, we want to work on it.
No, they're not at all.
They're not at all.
Neither is my family and stuff.
So, they've always just trusted me.
I built it from the ground up.
It was no money, with nothing.
It was all hard work.
A lot of them have been with me for decades.
We have careers at MyPillow, so it was a lot of trust.
Obviously, and they know me, I never give up.
Once I've done my due diligence, I will never back down, ever.
My moral compass is what it is.
I can't unsee what I see or unknow what I know.
They know I was never backing down.
And a lot of them, you know, they've been afraid for their jobs, probably more so this year because of the attacks have even been up even more.
But as we were losing stuff around us, the walls are getting turned on.
Here goes another box store.
Here goes another box store.
Now, did my board of directors, some of them left right away.
They weren't part of the company, but they were bored and the one made a public comment.
Mike and I don't have the same.
I grew up with him as the mayor of our town.
I grew up with him and all of a sudden he walks off the board because he didn't want to be associated with Mike Lindell at that time.
But the employees, we've stuck together.
We're like a family and it's sad because it's an employee-owned company.
I'm just the biggest stockholder.
So when things do happen like this last getting canceled where they've debanked us and everything,
where it gets scary for them sometimes, and I'm just, you know, we go through a lot of prayer.
We give God the glory, and that's what it's gotten us through basically.
And we have a lot of policies at my pillow where, you know, for example,
if someone dies they're close to, we're not like corporate America,
we're going, well, if it's your immediate family, you can take three days off.
If it's your cousin, you better be to work tomorrow.
We, if someone dies or in their, if an employee and they're close to them,
we don't ask them who it is.
It could be their neighbor.
They take off and we pay them until they're ready to come back to be whatever.
And same way if they're hurt, if it's critical, if they have someone critical in their family,
we pay while they're gone.
We pay them, go take care of them.
And then we have another thing too, addiction, because we'll hire people for second chances.
And if somebody does get caught or whatever, they almost expose themselves.
I could almost name what the addiction is.
We'll go get them the help that I want to give them.
I'll pay for the help and pay their wage while they're getting help.
Because addicts will use the excuse, well, I got to support my family.
Well, good for you, Special K. You're spending all the money over here.
I'll put you in.
I'm going to pay you while you're in treatment, while you're getting help.
And you're going to come out.
And it's been amazing.
And nobody's really took advantage of it.
And it's just...
So they know I have their back, and they've had my back, and you're right, it's no politics.
I would say, you know, a lot of them switched to Donald Trump now, but this was not political.
Right, they didn't start selling pillows.
They were more probably the other way when it started out in here.
You know, when I backed him in 2016 after meeting him, I was going, in fact, my board, this is an interesting story, I met Donald Trump on August 15th of 2016.
This famous meeting I went into and alone and we talked about earlier in the show.
Well, I went back to Minnesota and I was excited to tell the media, you know, they were my I was media's darling.
I was excited to tell him.
Hey, I met this presidential candidate.
I wanted to tell him what it was like because I had talked to his employee.
I went back there and my board stood around and that one by one.
And he was a liberal, he's a liberal Democrat, my one attorney, and he goes, you're gonna lose half our company if you do a press release.
I go, why would I lose half the company?
I didn't know, I was just naive going, what, because I met the guy?
I just wanna tell people about him.
And so I walked out of the boardroom and my CMO came out and she goes, we didn't get this all this way by you not listening to God, you gotta pray about what I do, be proactive.
I come back in there, I go, we're gonna do that press release.
And I said, and so I do the press release, right?
And I couldn't believe it.
It was like shocking.
The Tribune on the line and all this stuff, and all these people I broke bread with, all these reporters that would come out every day.
How many more employees do you have?
Mike, you're the American dream, ex-crack guy, you got 1,500 employees.
They turned on me, and one of the things was they called me a drug dealer, right, in this thing.
Now that, I go, I never dealt a drug in my life.
And I'm going, you know, I tried to rid Minneapolis of drugs by doing them all.
You know, that was my job, right?
I tried to save everybody.
I just wanted to do them all.
Or I would give them away.
And even my drug dealers, my ex-drug dealers, were upset about seeing these comments.
So they did.
We were all about pulling back, getting that retracted, which they did.
They retracted that statement.
But it was an attack.
I'm going, what did I do?
It was something new to me.
But maybe that was training for way down the road here.
You know, when I spoke at the Rose Garden that time, for up there, when the virus came on, the China virus, and then the President had me speak there, what my pillow was doing to help the country, and I did that, and we were attacked, I was attacked, you'd think I killed someone, 109 interviews in 5 days.
Do you think that the box stores will ever bring my pillow back?
I don't.
There's been a couple that have came on since then, like Ollie's came on, and some stayed with us, like Menard's and Fleet Farm, like the hardware stores, all these hardware stores.
They stayed with us.
The number one selling in these Mon Par hardware stores to across the country was my pillow, not a jar of paint.
So a lot of them stayed with us, but none of the ones left have come back.
And I remember back when it happened, I was on Sean Hannity's show and he said, and I said, they're never coming back if they leave now.
And he goes, oh, Mike, you'll change your mind.
Don't say like that.
And I'm going to the point now, would I take him back now?
Well, I'm sure it was a business decision they made.
A lot of them were in fear.
They had to make a decision.
I know now more what the attacks were.
And they had to make a decision to their stockholders, to their thing.
Kohl's, I know, was one, we're their number one selling product.
Their CEO or their whatever, I got a call and, you know, we quit Bad Mouth and Kohl's, you know, this was during the time I go, you guys are canceling us!
I said, so I gave him a special one day all by himself and said, Coles canceled us.
You know, I was spreading out, but knowing what I know now, would I take him back if they did?
Absolutely.
I've got, you know, it's like people always say, well, Mike, you advertise on CNN and they attack you.
And I'm going, or you advertise on Fox, but you bad mouth them every day.
And I'm going, you know what?
I separate business for what my, what I'm doing over here, what they do to me or whatever they attack.
That's their deal.
Wow.
I didn't realize Menards is the third largest home improvement.
Yeah, and they're a great family-owned company, and they made decisions based on, I knew them, you know, hey, we're not going to fall for this social media, these attacks, and they stuck with it.
Fleet Farm was another one, and it'd be a surprise.
Had those box stores stayed with us.
As my pillow, when my pillow first came out, like at Walmart, they were $59.98.
It was their number one buy-through in history.
That was like in 2011 or 12.
And as the price came down, as we got better at manufacturing my patented foam, got better, we could bring the price down.
Then it went down to $49.98, and it was the number one buy through at $49.98.
Their history in everything, QVC everywhere.
Then when it dropped down to $39.98, now that was the drop.
That and a two-pack would have been $29.98 for, you know, $59 for two.
When that drop would have been made, that was right when they canceled.
It would have been the other stores that stayed with us.
They couldn't keep them.
I mean, there were walls of them at Menards and Fleet Farm.
So these box stores, they sacrificed.
The fear of public opinion, even though the public turned on them.
After this happened, up and down the western seaboard, like Bed, Bath & Beyond, people were filling up grocery carts in Bed, Bath & Beyond, going to the front and then saying, where's my pillows?
They say, we don't have them, and leaving their carts there.
They were doing this on purpose.
It was like a big protest.
And, you know, Bed Bath & Beyond is not here anymore.
I feel bad they made bad decisions.
And sitting like, you know, Kohl's and all these.
But they sacrificed money.
We were their number one selling product.
And Walmart, they've got 10,000 products overseas that they make in China.
I got a whole different thing with Walmart.
A beef with them where they attack entrepreneurs and stuff.
You invent a product and it shows up in Walmart, or there it is on Amazon, and you can't fight that.
That's why I created MyStore.com, where I give these guys a safe haven.
I bring the geese to the pond, so to speak.
So I bring the people to that outlet, and then they can buy their products for all these entrepreneurs and Made in the USA stuff.
But it's a long answer to your question.
I don't believe they will.
Maybe they will down the road when they say, when everyone says, Hey, it's okay that Mike Lindell wanted paper ballots hand counted.
And, uh, you know, and, and, you know, maybe at that point and there were the public, but not in the near future.
You're saying you don't think it'll be in the near future.
It could be next year.
It could be year after whatever, but they, uh, you know, the, um, You know, by that time, you know, do we do with it?
Was it?
I don't think any company could have survived what my pillow did.
And I think they knew that back then they wanted to kill my voice.
It wasn't about they wanted me to stop talking about our election platform period.
They want me to stop talking.
That's why last summer you think they're attacking me now because I want to overturn the 2020 election.
No.
I announced last August a plan to secure our elections.
And when I announced that, from that time on, the banks debanked us.
The American Express did.
All these different things.
They cancel, cancel, cancel.
And because I want to go to paper ballots and go, there's big money out there attacking my pillow.
They figure if Mike's out of money, he's going to quit talking.
That's wrong!
I'm going to talk.
I don't care.
I'll borrow more money, which I have.
I borrowed millions and millions of dollars, put myself in debt, and I will keep doing it until we save our country and get our American... You know, God's got me doing... God gave me this platform, and I'm doing... I pray about what I'm doing.
I'm not going to stop.
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We got Kyle who says, thank you so much for asking RFK.
About my question about reparations.
Looks like those farmers deserve their settlement since they won a settlement.
Right on.
Well, thanks for the super chat.
TokenBlackGuy says, howdy people.
Mike, I got a pair of your slippers for my birthday.
They're amazingly comfortable.
So I've got my second pair.
I want to tell entrepreneurs, like, let's take the slippers.
I reverse engineered what slippers should be.
This guy came to me.
This is kind of funny how things can be invented.
He came to me, it's called impact gel, it's made out of soybeans.
He puts his hand out, puts his gel over the top, this piece of gel, and he whacks his hand with a hammer.
I'm going, what's wrong with you, right?
He jumps, he puts the thing out here and he jumps down.
He goes, what it does is spreads the way, it's called impact gel, right?
It's a patent he's got.
And I said, wow, these would be great inside shoes or Slippers, right?
So if you ever cut your, my slipper in half, you would see inside, other big brands, you're going to see like cardboard, just garbage in there.
I mean, seriously.
Inside, you're going to see my pillows, patented foam.
You're going to see a memory foam and that impact gel.
So when you wear them, it's like you're wearing the most comfortable shoes ever.
And when we came out with them, I did a show once.
It was in, I think it was in Kentucky.
It was like 2000 people.
I was there.
It was a addiction event.
We're talking about addiction.
Everybody wore their slippers and one guy had to say, hey, could you autograph my slippers?
This is an interesting sales tactic to say go ahead and cut your product in half and see how good it is and then order another pair.
St.
Miles says, just wanted to say, hey Mike, I got my king-sized pillows and covers today.
Everybody's chatting to let you know they got their MyPillow stuff in the mail.
That's awesome.
Well, so I was saying, I think I was saying this before the show, that we moved to the new studio, and so we needed towels, I needed a new pair of slippers, we needed pillows, of course, and so Allison was thinking, like, should we go to Walmart or something?
And I was like, no no no, MyPillow's got that thing now, it's like 25 bucks for everything.
And she was like, oh, okay.
And then she just bought a ton of stuff.
So can I give you a promo code to use on the show for the guests?
Sure, why not?
Promo code TIM!
How about that?
Jack Vesobic will be heartbroken.
Finally you can enter this competition he has with his wife.
Does that exist already?
Yeah, absolutely.
I set it up.
Promo code TIM or POOL.
You can use either one.
TIM or POOL.
I set it up before I got here in case.
Yeah, but yeah, you get all the discounts there everything those $25 extravaganza, and we got their six-piece towel says $25 We've got the premiums.
We're all started.
You know we've sold 83 million my pillows now good for you 83 That's incredible if everyone would have told me that back when I invented it You know I was going for years and years going show to show it selling one pill at a time, but 83 million We bought 300 Yeah, when we opened the park, I wanted to have a MyPillow pit.
I just thought it would be hilarious, and 300 was not enough.
It was enough.
It was sufficient.
It was cool, yeah.
But I wanted it bigger, and when I got here I was like, wow, we need more pillows.
But, you know, you got your guys hooked us up.
Yeah.
Because we called, we talked with Jack and then we talked to your guys.
Yeah.
And we were like, not only do we need the pillows, we need them fluffed.
Right, yeah.
You know?
And they said, we'll get it done for you.
Yeah, we set them whole.
Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah.
And, you know, these are the Premier, these are the MyPillows that we've sold the $83 million.
And I will say one more thing with that.
Those are also $25, whether you get King or Queen or any loft level, which is the lowest price in history.
You know what I've been doing?
These box stores cancel.
When they cancel, because we still get cancellations, they'll put in a P.O.
and we'll go, okay, and this just happened a while back, and we're just selling stuff.
People go, how can you sell stuff that low?
Well, we don't have a middleman anymore in the box stores.
They take 50 to 55 points, if everybody knows out there.
So if they were paying 25, that's why you were paying 50 in the box stores.
Yeah.
And so this loss, I choose my pillow, I tell people all the time, that's their loss.
Now you think if any one of them wanted to come back and say, you know, have a draw, box stores look for advertising.
They look for advertising on TV and then people will come into any infomercials or commercials, then they come into the box stores.
Well, if you take out that, you know, they're all buying direct now.
So how long did it take you to, I mean, you started, you made a pillow, you were traveling around and then how did you get from there to Yeah, a little quick story.
In 2004, and I remember I quit crack cocaine in 2009, January 16, 2009, and I had sold my bars.
My bars, I had not a good place for an attic, and I didn't want to sell them.
It was a series of circumstances.
I was devastated at the time, but I sold them, and I took all my money.
I put it in.
I had this pillow idea, and I had problems with pillows.
They'd go flat.
I'd use my arm, fold them, and I'll end up in this pillow pile.
About nine months to a year, we tried everything.
I remember when my son and I out on the deck, we'd have foam flying all over the place, one of my sons, and all through the neighborhood.
But finally, one day, we're going, wow, we got it.
And I wanted something you could adjust, and it would hold there, right?
It was a simple concept.
But then I also reversed it.
I'm going to make one you could wash and dry.
I'm going to make one that'll last, 10-year warranty and all that.
So I was so stubborn to get it exactly what I wanted to solve everybody's problem.
Well, then when I had it, it's funny, I went into a bad bathroom beyond in Minnesota, and I walked in there, and I was probably not on drugs that day, I can't say for sure, but I walked in there, and I go, I got this pillow.
I go, you're the manager?
Yeah, yeah.
And I said, you guys got to carry this pillow?
I didn't know anything about retail or anything.
I said, it's the best pillow ever, and I'm all excited about it.
He goes, you need to leave now.
And so none of the boxers wanted me, and I didn't know what to do.
And I finally said, Mike, do a kiosk.
And I said, well, how do you spell kiosk?
You know, what do you spell?
What is it?
So we did a kiosk, but I was afraid to talk to public then.
I was, you know, I couldn't talk to public.
It was very, almost a fear of speaking, right?
And public speaking.
Well, we did this kiosk.
And it completely failed, but I was there one day, and the one day, my wife at the time, and four little kids, and we put all our money into it.
We had left the world, and we sold like, I think, 60 pillows in that month.
But the day I was there, I sold one to this guy, and he goes, he goes, do you have a business card?
I go, oh, I'm all out.
I didn't have a business card.
I wrote my name on a piece of paper and gave him it.
And so we go through Christmas, completely broke, borrowed money, I think, from an ex-bookie to buy Christmas presents.
And this guy calls me in January.
He goes, hey, are you the guy that had this pillow in Minnesota here?
And I go, yeah.
He goes, what changed my life?
He said, and I run the Minneapolis Home and Garden Show.
Would you like a spot in there?
And I go, sure.
Can I give you a check?
And anyway, I get this spot and I put in there and I put a table up.
So the people couldn't get in my space, you know, because I could talk to them better.
And I put a bold statement up, guaranteed the most comfortable pillow you're on.
I'm selling these pillows.
And I sold 12 that day.
And the next day, they all 12 paid to get back in the show and came to the booth and go, this pillow changed my life.
They're telling me this.
And the feeling I got by helping people wasn't about the money.
It was so cool that I had helped these people, and I was just hooked on that.
So I did shows and fairs for all the way up to 2011, even a quick crack into everything in 2009.
But in 2011, I told my friends and family, I said, you guys, let's do an infomercial.
I said, it's gonna be the biggest one in the world, and we all pooled our money.
I didn't know infomercials don't work.
They're only to get you in the box stores, which didn't want me, right?
Which has come full circle.
So we go to film this in August of 2011, and I wanted a real audience.
Remember, I couldn't talk in front of people.
This was kind of crazy that I wanted this audience, but I had it in my head.
And I wanted to do it like I did it at the shows.
Well, we brought it.
It was me and this gal that sold pillows too.
And they brought in this producer from Hollywood and he texts the other guy, we are doing our reads.
He goes, this is the worst guy I've ever seen.
He'll never make it on TV.
He goes, just quiet.
He's paying you.
Well, I get out there the next day and I was petrified.
I'm walking and it took an hour to do one line.
I couldn't talk in front of the people.
And I think I went and said a quick prayer in the bathroom.
I came back out.
I said, can we bring a table in and throw away the teleprompter?
I just want to do it like, you know, cause I was so passionate about the pillows by then, you know, cause they worked.
You recreated what you were doing at the trade shows?
Exactly.
So we brought the table in.
I pretended the audience wasn't there.
And I was living in my sister's basement.
This was August 7th, 2011.
It aired the first time at like 3 in the morning.
It was like surreal for me.
I'm seeing myself on TV.
I'm like, wow.
And I had trained a call center in Connecticut to take my calls.
Well, on the second day of this commercial, it just exploded.
I told, like, Vendor, my patent and phone company, I said, you guys, I need 30-day credit.
I said, I'm going to go from $100 million to $200 million overnight.
They're going, okay, I will give you a 30-day credit.
Well, what happened then, on the second day, I remember calling that call center and going, yeah, what's in that pillow?
The guy goes, I don't know.
Google it.
I go, Google it!
I'm on the phone.
I fired the call center.
We built our own in two weeks.
I had 10 employees.
Forty days later, I had 500.
They go, Mike, you need to be CEO.
I go, why do I want to be a CEO?
I didn't really know what they were.
I go, I just want to make pillows here and help people.
And they go, and we need a corporate attorney.
I go, that sounds horrible.
And we need an HR department.
That sounds even worse.
So we grew this huge growth, number one infomercial in the world by the end of December.
And I tell this story when I do rallies and stuff.
And over the next six months, we took in $100 million.
Wow.
And I remember calling my friend.
I go, Tom, do you know the ATMs don't go to the seventh digit?
He goes, no, I didn't know that, Mike.
I'm going, it was crazy, all this money coming in.
But I woke up in May that year and we were $6 million in debt and I was in tears going, God, what did I do wrong?
And I started digging in over the next two years to dig out of that with no bank or anything.
I built everything with my hands and from the ground up, everything we own, we built and just kept making inventory.
Well, to dig out, I learned so much from 2012.
There was betrayal, I made handshake deals, contracts, didn't matter which one I made, people took advantage, and then I brought it on and I wanted to do it my way, where everything is tracked.
What if I only had to live on that newspaper ad, or that one podcast, or that one show?
I took it in and we did everything ourselves.
Basically, micromanage everything and macromanage it.
That's to where we got today.
83 million, my pillows later, this big company, thousands of employees.
But I always look back and say, if 2012 hadn't happened in my pillow, I would never be here, because I learned so much.
And I tell any entrepreneurs out there, business people, learn by that.
You learn by those mistakes.
But it was so big, it was devastating at the time.
But I look back now, if that didn't happen, I would have just been slowly You know, I would have never gotten there.
You would have never caught it, right?
I wouldn't have got it.
And I look at the 2020 election like that.
If the 2020 election hadn't happened, so much has been revealed now, whether it's bad.
We're going to look back, and I always say, you know, this is on God's time.
We're going to look back and say, everything had to happen, even the bad.
God uses all things for good.
And people, like you see, it's opening people's eyes, like we've talked about.
From, you know, from Elon Musk on down, it's at least opened people's eyes to this bucket of common sense.
It just comes down to common sense.
Let's read some more Super Chats.
We got Christian Bond says, Phil, listening to Divine took me back to 06.
Just got my meet and greet passes.
See you in Phoenix, brother.
Sick.
Awesome.
Thank you so much.
Can't wait.
I appreciate it.
Phil's going on tour this summer.
Are you going to attend his shows?
Are you going to attend Phil's shows?
Well, yeah, where's he at?
We're going to be all over the U.S.
We'll be up in the Minneapolis, St.
Paul area.
Let me know.
I'll be there.
Awesome.
All right.
TRD says Mike's pillows are definitely not lumpy.
Anyone who says otherwise is an ambulance chaser and an a-hole.
Specifically an ambulance chaser.
I think you should just make merch out of it.
It was so funny.
Rudy Cassone says Biden is waiting for a conviction and then use it as an excuse to not debate.
That's actually a good point, I wonder.
He's going to come out and say, I said I'm not doing this.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
No, we're not going to legitimize him.
He's a convicted.
There's something really strange that he agreed to that, you know, something hidden there.
We don't know yet.
Let's go.
Nathan Sherwood says, went home to visit over the weekend and saw flyers for the Raising of the Pride flag at City Hall run by Pride of Binghamton, whose logo is a flaming brick with a Pride flag painted on it.
Wow.
That's definitely a reference to Stonewall.
Stonewall, yeah.
None for me.
Thanks, though.
No, thanks.
Jason Hutchinson says, Mike Lindell saw adversity and conquered it with a pillow.
I dare anybody to do better.
Good job.
Amazing.
All right.
It's funny that you just got fixated on inventing a really good pillow.
Like, were you always inventing stuff in your life or was the pillow the first and only?
Well, I had a couple things.
I remember inventing a thing for ice fishing we have in Minnesota.
My dad and I spent all my money inventing this.
And to make a long story short, we tested it up at Lake Mille Lacs and it worked.
And I remember a week later, I was so excited, but my dad calls me and says, you need to get over here now.
We opened up this magazine, and almost identical, some other inventor two years early had thought about it, and it was already out there publicly.
I'm going, no way!
That's a problem, solution.
Both things, there was only one, the problem, what the problem was, there was only one solution, and we both thought of that solution.
But usually it's been, you know, it's been an entrepreneur where, my sister, Florida, third story building of an apartment complex back in the
early eighties so I became a carpet cleaner you know she
this waterbed whenever so problem solution to a laundry room said sleep is
the most important thing you can do for yourself and I just want to stress that when it comes to
you know health and exercise and all that sleep One of the most important things.
You need deep sleep.
So people will be thinking like, I'm eating healthy.
I'm exercising.
But for some reason, are you, are you sleeping?
Cause a lot of people don't get sleep and then wonder why it is their body's not getting right.
Even though they're following the diet and exercise properly, but something's still wrong.
And it's quality sleep, too.
One of the things with that adjustability of my pillow, keeping your cervical nerves straight at night, where people, if you bend them, it's like bending a water hose, and you're flip-flopping all night, and you're breaking your sleep cycles of REM-delta sleep.
It's funny, because back when I did my first commercials, someone put in there, sleep expert, and in California, you've got to go to four years of college to be a sleep expert, so I got sued for a million dollars.
Wow.
I don't like memory foam as a solid thing.
I can't do it.
Beds and pillows, I wake up stiff.
My muscles don't move.
But the MyPillows are fantastic.
You need a MyPillow mattress topper that fixes that memory foam or any bed.
I wouldn't go anywhere without my foam.
This ain't memory foam, right?
Oh, you like the memory foam.
No, I'm saying, like, I wouldn't go on a memory foam mattress no matter what.
No, you couldn't.
It heats up because there's two things that can ruin your sleep cycles, and that's heat and pressure points.
Most beds, that's what they have, both of them.
And I tell people all the time, they'll buy a brand new bed and go, oh, I got my side here.
I'm going, you need a different input.
It's not going to change, you know?
But they don't want to return the bed or whatever.
So I took the MyPillow mat shop.
I reverse engineered that.
Everything I reverse-engineer, what should go in there to help you?
I don't care.
One of the things you won't see me selling is all these decorative pillows that you see in hotels where you take your arm and throw them on the floor.
What's that going to do?
I want to know.
Why don't they look cute?
All right.
Acoustic Theory says, if Hydro PX won't be kicked, this chat is effectively unmoderated.
Acoustic Theory.
Hydro just complains all day, but he gives us like a hundred bucks every night.
And it's not like he's like slurring or anything.
He's just calling me names.
It's a super chatter we have who comes in every night, dumps like a hundred bucks just to insult me.
But you're allowed to insult me.
Yeah, you're allowed to do it.
It's always allowed.
I mean, it would be like the worst super chat in the world if I was like, I'm going to just hire someone to delete all of the chats I don't agree with.
So it's like, well, you know, thank you, Hydro, for your opinions and your money.
Right.
It was always allowed.
Let's get another one.
Let's see.
Nour Elie says, I believe it was a literal miracle.
When Frank's speech effectively distributed absolute proof despite the consistent cyber attacks, Mr. Lindell's site withstood.
It streamed smooth as silk and no communist was able to stop it.
What happened that week was beyond man's power.
Wow.
True.
When we did the Cyber Symposium, and when I did the movie Absolute Proof on February 5th of 2021, it was taken down everywhere.
In fact, Alan Duke, the Facebook fact checker, Alan and I have a weird relationship, but Alan put a cover of it saying it contains nudity and porn.
He's supposed to be the Facebook fact checker, right?
So they're putting all these things up then.
Well, we were canceled everywhere there on February 5th, but 200, it was a year, close to 300 million people worldwide seen that in four days, because the public was longing to see, to hear some positive things.
And then the cyber symposium, he might be talking about that, the event I had in South Dakota in the summer of 21, that was too, it was such an attack.
Uh, attacks and to get through that, but, uh, but it planted seeds where I think everybody went back out and said, Hey, there's problems.
It may be in our state, maybe in our County.
And, and, um, whatever it was back then, at least, uh, you know, cause I thought, well, it failed.
What did it do?
But now I talk to people, you know, two years later, they go, you know, I was at that, or I watched that and that gave me go and see if I had problems in my own County.
And so, you know, the seeds were planted and it worked.
ObamaPhoneProMax5G says, Tim, how do you think that Trump will save the economy?
Inflation is completely out of control and many economists I've been following on YouTube are predicting something on the level of the Great Depression is coming.
I'll just put it this way.
Maybe he won't.
But when the Great Depression comes, who do you want in charge of the economy?
Joe Biden or Donald Trump?
Your choice!
You pick what you want!
Do you want the real estate celebrity billionaire or do you want the crooked backroom deals guy?
I mean, I'll take the guy who's run a bunch of companies and has got tens of thousands of employees.
It doesn't mean you're guaranteed anything.
It just means like, come on!
You're not going to hire a janitor to be your accountant.
You know what I mean?
Like, no offense to janitors.
It's a good job.
I just point to people December of 2019.
Try and put your mind back there and where you were at, you know, physically, wherever you started from and where you were.
I bet you sold a lot of pillows in 2019.
Oh, absolutely.
It was huge.
It was massive.
It actually went up when I spoke at the Rose Garden in the spring of 2020.
Because it got worldwide attention all of a sudden, you know, because everyone's attacking, how dare you talk about reading the Bible from the, from the, from the, uh, the podium.
What a concept.
How dare you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The, like Donald Trump is not going to come in and like save us.
That like, it's just that it's better than Biden.
Donald Trump is not going to come in and save us.
He's just not going to keep setting us on fire like Joe Biden.
Yeah.
I would love, I hope, I mean that's the reason that I asked Cash about his plan for unfunded liabilities and stuff.
Our biggest problem, I say it over and over, our biggest problem facing the country is unfunded liabilities, mandatory spending, the things that the government has to spend, the discretionary spending, military spending, all the things, even as much as I talk about getting rid of entire bureaucracies and getting rid of cabinet level bureaucracies and stuff like that, that's nothing When it comes to saving money compared to what is actually needed to happen to to stop the massive problem with our unfunded liability.
So Donald Trump, if he doesn't have a great plan, at the very least, if you can get a friendly business environment, then you can have your economy start growing again.
And at least it can moderate how fast the problem compounds.
Because again, this is our problem compounding interest.
But the more Productive your economy is you can stave it off and
possibly could come up with a solution if if not We're going to be looking at serious
Austerity in the United States and America is not ready for that
If you think the problems that we have now With a with the economy the way they are all the other
social problems with the economy the way that it is They all get magnified
You know times ten or a hundred or a thousand when you throw on top of an economic crisis all of the problems that
like All the stuff you hear about before World War two in
Germany. There was all these bad things going on including a massive economic problem massive economic
problems just Amplify all of your social problems, so this is a big thing
that we have to worry about this is a good super chat I like this one.
BrownBear992 says, important question for Mike.
I want to get a MyPillow, but I don't know which fill level is right for me.
What should I do?
Oh, you can go right to the website or one of my operators.
They'll ask you a couple of questions right on the site and you'll be custom fit.
Use promo code Tim.
There we go.
That's great.
Eat your heart out, Jack Posobiec.
Let's go!
You should bury this post just because he's always throwing shade at his wife.
This is the number one promo code out there.
I think he does it with his wife.
His wife, Tanya.
Yeah, the arguer over whose promo code does better.
Hers does some tweaks.
Well, not for long.
Look at Tim now.
There you go.
Promo code Tim.
Let's go.
What do we have here?
Mike17Frank161 says, howdy Tim.
I'm a big fan and private member.
I'm asking for a donation to the Arkansas Firefighter Museum and Fire Education Center.
They're a 501c3.
I know times are tough, but every donation helps.
Thanks and God bless.
That's the Arkansas Firefighter Museum.
Let me, let me, let me punch that in.
That's cool.
Okay.
Just, uh, bear with me.
Arkansas Firefighter Museum.
Let's pull that one up.
I love museums.
I feel like they don't get enough attention, and they're so easily hijacked by people with really progressive ideologies.
I don't know the website.
I gotta find the website.
We'll find the website.
We'll grab a couple more Super Chats while we're here, and see what we got.
Mr. Shazam says, I'm broke now, but words have value.
Thanks.
Thanks for the Super Chat.
Polly Piray says, Kelsey Grammar's show, Frasier, was a mockery of the left wing.
Was it?
I guess.
Alright, Barely a Millennial says, I bought a MyPillow 2.0 last year.
They accidentally sent me two.
Tried to send one back.
They told me to keep it.
Made my day.
LOL.
Well, it's the little things.
That's awesome.
That's our customer service, by the way.
I tell people in business, treat every customer like it's your only customer.
Because I remember only having a few customers.
I remember one kid not getting his birthday present in time, or wasn't going to get in time.
This lady called me from Wisconsin.
It was a six hour drive.
And back in the day, and I felt so bad, it wasn't my fault, it was the shipping.
So I drove the present there.
You'd think she's going, I can't believe you did this to me.
But you know what?
We built our company on that.
So just like that, I tell people, hey, if it's our mistake, tell them to keep it.
But it's great that they call.
They have that, you know.
I just go, you've been so honest, keep it.
They're going, oh no, no.
And I'm going, no, really.
Yeah.
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Shout out something?
More pillows, I guess?
Where can people find you?
I'll tell you what you can do, okay?
Three things.
One is, if you're discouraged and want to see the hope, go to LyndalePlan.com.
Go to LyndalePlan.com.
I've got it all laid out there, what we're doing to secure our elections, and everybody, I don't care who you are, you're going to have some interest to go there.
Another thing I want to say, if you're married, if you know someone that you think is incorrigible, or he's an addict and there's no hope, I disagree.
Go to lyndalerecoverynetwork.org.
It's free.
And one of the things, if you tell your addict there, if you tell them, most of them know me and most of them know I was an ex-addict, so they're gonna trust, hey, he might know what he's talking about.
So that's that.
And then also, my store, with the thousands of entrepreneurs there, I encourage you all to go there and help these entrepreneurs.
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We're still here.
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The last five days were our busiest days of the year.
And usually this time of year is one of our slowest, so we're really on the upswing and it's because of everybody out there.
And now we got the great new promo code TIM, so I expect a second stock market going straight up.
That's right.
Right on.
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