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April 27, 2024 - The Lindell Report - Mike Lindell

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	Three years ago, FrankSpeech.com was launched during the height of mass media censorship to give voices back to those who had their voices silenced.
	This April, Lindell TV celebrates three years of uncensored truth about America's stolen elections, the voting machines, and the fight to return to paper ballots.
	Today, we stand at the precipice of a new era covering the most important presidential election in American history.
	An era defined by the battle for some of our most fundamental rights, freedom of speech, freedom of press, and secure elections.
	We at Frank Speech refuse to be silenced.
	We refuse to bow down to the forces that seek to dictate what we can and cannot say.
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	You might not want to hear what we're saying, but we're going to say it.
	You ever see this guy with the pillows on Fox?
	My pillow guy, Mike Lindau.
	He is the greatest.
	My pillow guy, Mike Lindau.
	And he's been with us right from the beginning.
	No, they're not lumpy pillows.
	That's not what they call on, okay?
	When you say lumpy pillows, now you're in... What's it like when you're sitting there and you know someone's lying to your face?
	Well, with depositions, and I've been a lot of them going, you know, back a long, long time, but these are different when you know that they're ambulance-chasing lawyers and you know, and it's like, It's disgusting, but one of the things I was upset about the most in the Coomer deposition was the judge.
	Not necessarily the Coomer lawyers.
	They just jabbed me.
	But I was already very upset with the judge.
	And what I mean by that is the judge a year ago This judge was appointed by Biden, and I was their first case, this Coomer frivolous case.
	Now, I never read it.
	I was served papers on the steps of the Colorado Capitol.
	I didn't know who Coomer was.
	I didn't know anything about him, okay?
	The only time I had ever bad-mouthed Eric Coomer Was when the spring of 2021 when he made a deal with Newsmax and all of a sudden I get called by Newsmax saying I can't come on anymore to talk about my pillows and my company.
	What happened with your Twitter account and the company page?
	Well, first mine was taken down because we have all the election fraud with these Dominion machines.
	We have 100% proof.
	And then when they took it down about three weeks ago, and then put it back up, my personal, I put it... Mike, thank you very much.
	Mike, you're talking about machines that Newsmax have not been able to verify any of?
	Those kinds of allegations.
	We just want to let people know that there's nothing substantive that we've seen.
	And let me read you something there.
	While there were some clear evidence of some cases of both fraud and election irregularities, the election results in every state were certified and Newsmax accepts the results as legal and final.
	The courts have also supported that view.
	So we wanted to talk to you about canceling culture, if you We don't want to relitigate the allegations that you're making, Mike, because we understand where you are.
	So let me ask you this.
	Do you think that this should be temporary because it appears to be permanent?
	Could you make an argument that it is temporary?
	Could you make an argument that this could be a temporary banning rather than permanent?
	No, I want it to be a permanent because you know what?
	They did this because I'm revealing all the evidence on Friday of all the election fraud with these machines.
	So I'm sorry if you think it's not, but it's real.
	Can I ask our producers, can we get out of here please?
	I don't want to have to keep going over this.
	We at Newsmax have not been able to verify any of those allegations.
	Mike, hold on a second.
	Everybody hold on a second.
	Mike, Mike, hold on one second.
	Let's talk a little bit about just what is happening.
	So, in effect, the four months prior with Promo Code Newsmax, we took in $3 million.
	Afterwards, we took in $300,000.
	And I knew that was going to happen, but we were just going to tank my pillow.
	So, I went on and said, I don't know who this Coomer is, but I said, you're attacking my pillow.
	That's a traitor.
	You're a traitor to this country.
	We're making U.S.
	products, right?
	So, that's all I ever said about him.
	Now, a year later, he serves me papers on the steps of the Colorado Capitol.
	That's the spring of 2014.
	Uh, two, okay?
	The spring of 22.
	When he did that, I just thought it was another lawsuit from the machine companies, Dominion or Smartmatic or whoever, right?
	I never read it.
	I never read it.
	Put it on the pile, right?
	So I put this on the pile.
	Now here, the night before, now you go another year later, and I'm finally in the first deposition for this Cooper case.
	And I read it the night before for the first time.
	Well granted, I probably should have read it sooner, but I thought it was something, you know, same thing, put it on the pile, you go through these depositions, a lot of wasted time, it's disgusting, you know, they ask you for everything, I ask them for stuff and you don't get it, but I have to provide, I mean, everything you could ever imagine.
	How many hours that day?
	The depositions, eight hours, nine hours, every day I did one.
	But I want to say this, is when I read this the night before, I was so upset because this case was different.
	This was the most frivolous case in history.
	It would be like if I sued my neighbor and he wasn't even involved with anything.
	I never did anything with this Coomer.
	Other than what I told you, what here, my pillow.
	So now I'm going to my lawyers.
	I come in and I'm so mad.
	I said, why wasn't this case dismissed last summer?
	And they said, they get this, the judge, this judge Wang did not, she's rude.
	She said, I'm not going to rule on a dismissal.
	Go ahead and do discovery and go ahead and do depositions.
	And I'll someday I'll give you my My thing.
	Now, if that happens in our country, if you do that, you ruin everything.
	All frivolous cases.
	And if I was a little, if there was a little guy, didn't have any money, you're breaking him because you're, you know, I don't care.
	Just give me a ruling.
	Is it a frivolous case or not?
	Is it dismissive or not?
	And she didn't do that.
	Let me, let me suffer.
	I was so mad at her.
	Because I've heard you say this many times where it seems one of the things that hurts
	or annoys or angers you more than anything is that they went after your company.
	They went after my company.
	And it's thrilled now because I'm in your headquarters.
	I've met all these lovely employees.
	So if you could share, is that what keeps you up at night?
	Where you're sitting there going, you know, these people don't know that you walk these halls, you look these people in the eyes.
	So, what kind of stuff do you carry with you?
	Like, maybe you haven't shared with... Well, you know, you've got to understand the context of these lawsuits.
	They're suing me, but they sued my pillow.
	All of them did, including this Coomer one.
	They sued my pillow.
	Now, my pillow's an employee-owned company.
	I just have the most shares.
	A lot of employees have stock.
	A lot.
	I don't know how many exactly, but a lot.
	It could be upwards of 100 have stock.
	And so we're an employee-owned company.
	Now you attack my pillow because I'm out there trying to secure our elections and out there speaking out my First Amendment right of free speech, and you come and sue my pillow.
	Now, they sued my pillow under the premise that I'm doing this So the reality is, as my world is crumbling, in January 9th of 2021, when I got the evidence, my first evidence explained everything that was done with computers, and I sounded the alarm.
	As I'm getting cancelled every day, retailers, shopping channels, just getting destroyed, Well, no, a normal person would say, hey, I got to protect my employees and my company.
	And I do, and I have, and they all know that for 20 years.
	I have people with me 20 years.
	These are careers of my pillow, not just jobs.
	Every one of them, I treat like they're my only employee.
	I treat every employee like my only employee, like family.
	We're like a big family.
	And this isn't all this is Democrats, liberals, conservatives, blacks, white, Hispanic, Asian, it doesn't matter here.
	And so but they know I've always had their back.
	So when they watched me out there, you know, raising my hand in January of 2021, for as you know, back then most of the country was silent because they were afraid of afraid and fear or cancel.
	And the only reason they went after me, it was because of pictures at the White House.
	And they go, hey, we can really destroy him now and destroy his company.
	So when they went to do that, I had a choice to make then.
	Do I just say, I say, back off and say, you know what?
	Please don't cancel this, I'll quit talking to him, you know?
	But I can't, because I lose my company forever.
	My employees know that I have their best interests at heart.
	Whether they can't see it in front of them.
	So I was going to ask you, it's clear you've got their back.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And here's why they have my back.
	A lot of them don't even know why I'm out there doing what I'm doing, but they just know I've always had their back.
	So they will sit there and you could talk to every single employee Include my own family members, whatever, that work here and say that have said, you know, we're getting destroyed.
	They didn't say stop, but back then they're going, they know I'm not gonna.
	And I go, you don't get it.
	We don't have a company.
	If we don't secure elections and save this country, we don't have a company anyway.
	And they trust that.
	They trust that, that in the end, you know, we've always made it through by prayer.
	Here God's the chairman of our board.
	You know, Jesus is the chairman of our board.
	So when we make decisions, you know, they're prayed about and they're made decisions.
	And it's not like, do I listen to my other employees and stuff?
	Absolutely.
	But it's about my pillow.
	I didn't ask him any opinion out here.
	I know you're prayer filled because the first time I met you at the symposium, and I remember, uh, I remember the story.
	Maybe you don't remember it, but you said, well, I got to get you back to New Mexico.
	I said, well, I got to go to Bedminster.
	I got to go to New Jersey.
	And right away, you're like, why you got to go to New Jersey?
	And it was my only opportunity to have met the president who you know very well.
	But I remember you telling Kendra.
	And saying, you want to go to the White House?
	And she said, Mike, I haven't prayed about it.
	Right, yeah.
	That's a stunning thing to say.
	And she said, I'm like, you want to go to bed, Mike?
	Yeah, yeah.
	She really prayed about everything.
	Everything, everything.
	Even the events I go to, you'll see me miss some rallies or go to some rallies or events, whatever.
	Everyone I pray about, because for the world I'm in now, where I'm at now, if I don't pray about everything, you know, I'm focused on one thing, and that's everything comes from our elections.
	And people come to me all the time.
	Mike, will you help us down here at the boys or help this guy?
	No!
	I'm hyper-focused on this.
	It's consuming 18 hours a day since November 4th of 2020.
	But at the same time, you have this destruction going on, attacks over here on my pillow, on my employees.
	That's why you see in that deposition, he made it very personal and he did it on purpose.
	Or they call about maybe they didn't get their pillow on time because of the FedEx or whatever.
	Well, we'll cover them even though it could be somebody else's fault.
	Nobody called because of a lumpy pillow.
	But good one, though.
	You done?
	Yeah, I'm done.
	What I'm saying is... Obviously, you don't have my pillow, too.
	You don't, do you?
	What I'm saying is, Mr. Rundell... Asshole.
	Go ahead.
	No, I'm pissed.
	I understand.
	You're calling my pillow a lumpy pillow.
	You sued my pillow.
	You don't even know my employees, you know?
	My employees, and what's really amazing is, they've deposed so many of my employees that they've had to go down for these depositions and sit there.
	And, you know, we don't object to it, but I'm thinking, is this a waste of time or not?
	No.
	Because they get down there and they're going, um, what do you mean Mike never talked to you about this?
	You're an asshole!
	Asshole, that's what you are.
	the mashup where they mixed Biden and Kamala into your MyPillow advertisement.
	Yeah.
	Did you see that?
	No.
	No.
	It's like the funniest thing.
	Yeah.
	You're an asshole.
	Asshole.
	That's what you are.
	That when you say Lumpy Pillows, now you're an asshole.
	LumpyPillows kiss my ass.
	And Aaron and I probably laugh harder than anything.
	Right.
	I mean, those things are funny.
	The one thing you're not going to see me, everybody, and I've said this just in a speech
	the other night that I just did, was you're not going to see me out there going, you know,
	Thank you.
	It's focusing on Biden, his brain, and his falling up the steps.
	Those are people that watch Fox News.
	Everybody, this is all a big distraction.
	It's not them.
	This is the evil, globalist, uniparty, deep state CCP that's come in.
	The Democrats wanted these machines gone for two decades.
	Our biggest fight has been against people that have R's in front of their name in these states where we've went into.
	Red states, you think that, hey, let's secure our elections.
	You go into your Missouris, your Alabamas, your Arkansas.
	It's, how are they, you know, that's my biggest fight.
	You're going, okay, you're not really, you know, there's a deviation there in behavior.
	Why are you stopping this when we, you know, you'd want to look into it.
	Yeah.
	And so that's been kind of one of my biggest surprise, but it's been the opening up of the onion, so to speak.
	And that's why you have a bucket here of common sense.
	I explained it on my stage last night.
	I said, there's two buckets right now.
	If you didn't have, we've had two great things happen.
	One is with the miracle of the 16 election.
	We were able to be shown by December of 2019, we were able to be shown what politics could do, decisions that were made in politics, what it would manifest to help all people, not just one party.
	If you were in December of 2019, the physical footprint of our country, the highest consumer confidence, whether you were in the street with no forks or a four forker, your level got lifted.
	You physically got lifted, your physical possession.
	But as far as your God, was anybody reaching out for God then?
	No!
	Because you reach out to God when things are going bad.
	Those are new people finally praying or finally reaching out.
	So you have a great example that we haven't had before in that magnitude.
	And they did it even with fighting everything else, right?
	So that was a miracle.
	Now, you have just, along comes the China virus and all the attacks, and the 2020 election, which will go down as the most important election in history.
	I don't care.
	It doesn't even matter what happens in 2024.
	2020 is where it's at.
	If 2020 didn't happen, the way it went down, where all these algorithms, where everything got, all these deviations came out, we wouldn't be talking.
	Okay?
	We would not be talking.
	And I've told people, as you know, when I did the event this summer,
	the summit, the election summit, we did that, and I said, I opened up the speech,
	which is how we got here.
	These were all miracles that people would think is bad.
	Two senators, I'm praying, please steal them both.
	Please steal them both, right?
	So I'm praying for this.
	Now you think of this, if these guys, this administration, if you wanna call it that,
	if they didn't go out right away, hit the ground running to destroy our country, this has done us more help
	than you can imagine for two reasons.
	One is everybody out here, the people, seeing what good decisions made in politics, what it can manifest for physical things here, right?
	For your physical lives, your joy, whatever, your Physical, you know your well-being right your your worldly possessions is the word I'm looking for so they are going up No matter where you started it was lifted But now everybody's getting destroyed in very short period of time two and a half years Actually, you can add the China virus in about three and a half years Okay, you add that in because that was all intentional.
	So you got three and a half years So this is all set up but it's backfiring on him for a couple reason one is people now are Now we're talking about the uniting of our country politically-wise, okay?
	So here's the political bucket.
	You have people pouring into this bucket of common sense.
	I don't care if you call it the Donald Trump bucket or not.
	It's the people's bucket.
	I talk to people that are Democrats out in California.
	They're pouring into this bucket.
	They don't know what a Republican is.
	I know what one can be really bad.
	I know what a bad Jeff Frack can be.
	But the people, us as a people, not the politician, the people are pouring into this bucket.
	We don't even really know what that is.
	You got, let's put an R in front of it and call it the new Republican, the common sense bucket.
	Okay.
	But whatever that is, that's this bucket people point, but there's another bucket that's even more important.
	And that's this bucket, the biggest revival for Jesus Christ in history.
	That bucket there, now more than ever, as things continue to get destroyed and people out there feeling hopeless because they're watching too much Fox News, you're not going to see any hope for our elections and stuff on Fox News.
	You're not, because they took conservative media out of the picture.
	Newsmax, Fox News, all these salient media, they took them out of the picture.
	By doing that, them not saying nothing, that's what got us to where we're at.
	Not just these two, we've always had these attacks.
	This bucket here, people are praying and praying and pouring into this bucket, which is amazing.
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	Three years ago, FrankSpeech.com was launched during the height of mass media censorship
	to give voices back to those who had their voices silenced.
	This April, Lindell TV celebrates three years of uncensored truth about America's stolen elections, the voting machines, and the fight to return to paper ballots.
	Today, we stand at the precipice of a new era covering the most important presidential election in American history.
	An era defined by the battle for some of our most fundamental rights, freedom of speech, freedom of press, and secure elections.
	We at Frank Speech refuse to be silenced.
	We refuse to bow down to the forces that seek to dictate what we can and cannot say.
	We are the media now. Join us in this fight at frankspeech.com.
	You might not want to hear what we're saying, but we're going to say it.
	Well, I wanted to switch gears real quick because you had occasion to interview the
	real president, Donald Trump. For how long?
	How do you sleep the night before?
	I mean, maybe you know him so well now that it doesn't matter.
	There's gotta be times where you pinch yourself going, how in the world?
	Well, let's go back to when I met him.
	You know, I had a dream that I would meet him.
	This is in my book too.
	I had that dream.
	It's a good book.
	All my life, it was like, you know, all these, on my table for my book, there was a table this size, and I had all the stories of my life laid out in 2000, spring of 2015, that would be, they were, they would be just chapters of my life, like little, it could be a month or whatever, these piles.
	And I said to this pastor that was there, and he was helping me, I said, I don't know what to leave in or what to leave out.
	And he goes, Mike, he goes, pick any pile.
	I picked a pile.
	I picked one.
	It was December 2000 or I mean, 1986, December.
	So I read this chapter, this little story of it within that month, and I read it.
	And he said, and I sat there, and he goes, the normal person, what he called the normal, any person at that right there, that little mini miracle that happened, or that happened there, they would have gotten on their knees and surrendered to Jesus immediately and gave their life to Him.
	But he said, maybe all this stuff—now remember, I wasn't saved yet then.
	I didn't get saved until February 18, 2017.
	So that's a huge date, okay?
	So he said, maybe all this has happened so you can finally, you can't go out there and talk about Jesus until you're yourself.
	And you know, this is all to show you these many miracles.
	When do you find, because I always say to God, show me more, show me more, show me more.
	Well, then you get to the, when the president thing, when I had that dream in May of 15, just a month after that, And I had this dream I would meet Donald Trump.
	I go, what am I?
	And it was a very vivid picture in this office, a very vivid picture behind us, him and I alone.
	And I've had dreams like that before, and they become, they're very prophetic, the ones like that.
	So it's almost like I knew, but I'm going, why?
	Well, then he, of course, in June, he comes down the escalator, he's running for president.
	And I knew nothing about politics.
	I didn't know a liberal from a conservative.
	I had no idea.
	I had never voted.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Because I remember in the book, Wasn't there something about where you saw him that you knew the picture had to be taken someplace else in the room because of, I don't know if there were pictures behind you and your vision, you're like, it was a different place.
	And when he got up, didn't he like walk you over?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yes.
	I will show you.
	But you're exactly right.
	You remember this, but, but let's take it back to when he came down that escalator and he's running.
	And he's running for office.
	At that point, I'm going, wow, you know, this has to mean something, because I just had that, you know, dream.
	And I'm going, and now I'm saying to him, I had to find out when I had never voted.
	I was an ex-crack addict, ex-addict.
	I didn't think politics mattered.
	I could care less.
	In fact, I had better things to do, you know, with my time, whatever.
	I'm just living in this addiction, functioning addict world I was in.
	Well, anyway, You roll into 15, and now you get into the early 16, and I ended up with a national prayer breakfast.
	And this is—remember, this is also when Ben Carson was running.
	Now, I'd never met Ben before, and he—and all of a sudden, I picked out of 12 people to pray with him in a room.
	I mean, these are things that divine—all these things that don't happen kept happening to me.
	And then it gets up to July of 2000.
	Sixteen.
	And I was on a plane—I'll never forget it—flying to California to do my movie Church People.
	And I'm flying, and I'm getting—and no, this is July of 16.
	He's already the candidate, whatever, and he's that kind of—and I'm up there, and I grab this magazine about Donald Trump.
	And I had my phone set for 10,000 feet.
	Back then, when I got internet, I could get internet, buy it on the plane or whatever,
	but my phone was set to ding when I got an email.
	I just got a new phone.
	I had this thing to ding for an email.
	And I'm up there and I just started, I shut the book and I remember this foreigner
	I was in the bulkhead there.
	And I said, God, if I was supposed to see—even though I wasn't saved, born again, I still did a lot of praying to God.
	Yeah, I was going to ask you that.
	And I'm praying, and I'm going, God, please.
	Tell me what I have to do with Donald Trump.
	I mean, you know, I know I've seen this picture or whatever.
	I need an answer.
	It was one of those things.
	I need an answer.
	At that moment in time, my phone dinged.
	Mike, this is Donald Trump.
	Will you meet me at Trump Hotel in New York City or whatever?
	And I'm going, God?
	And I literally started bawling and the guy goes, are you okay?
	The flight attendants go, yes, it's a miracle.
	But it wasn't that I was gonna meet Donald Trump.
	It was I was answered in real time by God.
	I mean, it was the most amazing thing.
	So then when you ask, how does it feel?
	That led up to a series of events.
	You'd have to, it would take too long to explain.
	Yeah, I've heard that.
	We get up to three o'clock in the morning, the night before I'm gonna meet him
	and I'm overlooked at Central Park.
	And I'm sitting there, it wasn't, It wasn't a nervousness so much of meeting him at that time.
	Remember, this was August 15th of 2016.
	By the way, it was the lowest he was in the polls ever.
	Okay, it was on August 15th.
	Now, this is three in the morning on August 15th, and I'm overlooking Central Park, and I'm sitting there going, God, why am I picked for this?
	I just knew that I felt if I overslept over there, it was gonna change some history thing or whatever, you know?
	And I was very, I guess the words were, was I nervous?
	I was more of a thing with God there going, like, what is this?
	You know, these miracles were lining up.
	Can I ask you this?
	In your discussions with the President since then, has he ever expressed to you a similar thing, or he kind of had a feeling that he was going to meet you ahead of time?
	And the reason why I ask this is that, you know, God's so providential about who He lines up, and your meeting is so—it's just like, how in the world did that happen?
	Has he ever shared like his side of the story?
	Well, no, and here's, to finish that part, when I went in there and met him, they said,
	you're never going to meet him alone.
	There's going to be other people in the room, and whatever you do, don't tell him you were an addict,
	you know, a crack addict.
	So the first thing I'm serious with, and I am alone, and one of the first things I said,
	I said, he goes, are you a Christian, Mike?
	Are you a cross?
	I go, yes, Mr. Trump.
	And this is a divine appointment.
	And then I go, I started, I go, you know, and I was a crack head.
	I kind of, kind of look at him and I just did opposite of what the people said.
	No, he just, he, he, I think, you know, I said, I'm going to have a recovery network someday and whatever.
	And he goes, I'm going to shut down the borders.
	It was like, shut down the borders and stop the drugs pouring in.
	So it was like, I, I was kind of blown away that he's asking me this stuff.
	There was no agenda other than my pillows were made here, and he was asking me about his amendment.
	How is it working out for you?
	But I couldn't believe he wanted my opinion on stuff.
	People don't realize what there's two things about him that people need to know.
	One is he's a great listener.
	And the other thing is his sense of humor is off the charts.
	But one of the things is, so did I get nervous?
	And you've got to realize from that point on, I didn't have his phone number.
	What everybody perceived in this country, because I went all in then, was that, and I would be at rallies, and he'd maybe call me out, and he did it from summer of 17 or whatever, and these things.
	One of the things that happened then, when I was saved on February 18, 2017, after that, he invited me to the White House for a Manufacturer's Summit.
	And this is pretty epic, everybody.
	I walked in there now, I really, I never thought I could even step within 10 feet of the White House because of my past, right?
	And here I am walking into the White House to do this, this summit, not knowing what to expect.
	And I get in there and there's this table and there's all these there's maybe 20 people and their names are there and there's no name by this and he said and he said that's where the president's sitting and I go and uh they actually said he had the guy said that he wanted to sit by you I'm going what you know so he's sitting here now we go live on national tv and all you see is us two there and this goes out you know
	Across the country, and my friends, these are my ex-crack addict friends, right?
	They're sitting there and they're going, what is this ex-crack addict sitting there, this crack addict sitting there with the president?
	Jesus is real because this is impossible.
	That was totally impossible against everything, right?
	So things like this that happened to me up to that point, it was like, show me more.
	To me, it was a miracle that I'm even put in this position.
	Let me share this with you, because by the time we met, From a standpoint of just who people knew, I'm like, meeting you is a big deal for me.
	So I go to the symposium and similarly, when we get up to that stage, my seat was right next to yours.
	I mean, you didn't know this.
	I'm sharing this with you right now.
	My goodness, I'm sitting right next to Mike Lindell.
	I know you don't either, but like, it's like, it's bizarre.
	And I remember when we went to Bedminster, we got to eat dinner.
	Yeah.
	And I want to share this with you because I think, I think this is, uh, is, is it jives with what you're telling me.
	Right.
	Um, you would think that, you know, the president or someone that's so important would be really uppity.
	But you're yourself, even there.
	And that's one thing, it's like, Mike's Mike, no matter where he's at.
	And I remember even asking you, because you drink more coffee than anyone, you drink more coffee than me, and that's like almost impossible.
	I stopped you and said, Mike, I counted your cups.
	You're on your fourth cup.
	And I stopped you, and of course you're on your phone, and I said, how many cups of coffee are you going to drink?
	And you almost like, you're like, what?
	And then you ignored me, and then you went back, and you ended up drinking the fifth cup of coffee.
	But the point is, is that when you would talk, most people would kind of check the etiquette.
	I looked over at the president and he's looking over and I could see like genuine affection.
	I was like, I think he likes how authentic you are.
	And he did.
	How we became really close friends and all is it manifested into that.
	After in the spring of 21 and stuff, it's when I finally got his phone number, you know, and we, and we'll, we'll talk.
	It's almost like an encouragement thing where, you know, when we'll talk at least, I'd say sometimes once a week, every other week, maybe I'll do a speech and he'll see a compliment.
	I like have to be able to have a compliment me, but, but we'll, um, um, He really, I think one of the things he respects is, is the marketing.
	I do, you know, the marketing, he sees it out there and he knows where I've come from.
	And it's like, I think, you know, he respects that part, but he also, he, I think he likes that and he's the same way around me.
	He's, he's about as real as it gets.
	He doesn't.
	You know, sugarcoat stuff.
	We'll talk the same as we are right now, and sometimes it's waiting for the other one to finish before the other one, you know?
	It's like we're cutting in, and we can go off in different directions, but it's, but one of the things people, like I said, the sense of humor, people need to know that.
	The other day, he said it, but this is a couple, I don't know, three, four weeks ago, he goes, Mike, he goes, can you, and this is on one of the indictments, and we were talking, and I said, sir, I said, here, you're, Polls keep going up.
	We're at a time in history, the public is aware of everything.
	It's like when they attack me, or they're indicting you, I said, the public now knows that that's all.
	Any other time in history, one would be, you'd be gone as a politician.
	But people are on to this.
	It's like that little boy that called Wolf, you lie, you lie, you lie to us.
	We're not, you know, Now when you do something here, evil is good, good is evil.
	It's like opposite of what you think, right?
	So anyway, he said to me, he goes, Mike, here's his humor.
	He goes, you know, he goes, you're like the, he really respects I never stop talking, right?
	And I didn't know who, and he goes, and he never stopped, I've never given up.
	I'm never stopping.
	And he goes, Mike, you're the Patrick Henry of our lifetime.
	You know, give me liberty, give me death, and this guy never stopped, right?
	He goes, they're gonna build a statue of you so big, and he goes, of course they'll tear it down right away.
	And I go, well shit, he threw that in there, he thinks about it.
	But, you know, it's like he'll ask me, you know, basically what's the sense of the public.
	We'll talk about that stuff.
	And he genuinely, he loves the country.
	Mike Lindell here.
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	I said to him the other day, I said, so how are you doing?
	How are you doing?
	This was after the fourth indictment.
	I called him up, or I think he called me, whatever it was, and I said, I think he called me to compliment the event.
	And I said, so, you know, instead of all that, he calls up to compliment the event.
	He's getting, just got blasted two days prior with that indictment, or maybe the day before.
	And he called me up to compliment me.
	He goes, I heard it, you know, I'd seen part of it was great, you know, and, uh, and I said, well, how are you doing?
	And he said, well, he goes, well, I really don't have a choice.
	And I said, I know that, but how are you doing?
	And he, uh, he goes, I'm never giving up.
	He said, we're not giving up and ever.
	And he goes, we got really lose our country.
	And he goes, and he knows he could just, just like myself, I could have pulled away and just my pillow and not worried about all these things.
	And, uh, and, uh, Where do you think that comes from?
	I know he's got to be more guarded than your average person, but you wear your faith on your sleeve.
	I've seen a few things where Trump, especially during Christmas time, he'll talk about Jesus.
	Have you ever had a discussion about faith?
	Yeah, what I tell him is, like I do with all, any one of my friends and stuff,
	I don't, it's a little different.
	I always tell him, God's got his hand in all this, sir.
	And I will tell him where negative is, God's gonna use it for a positive.
	And I said, all this stuff right now, because if you looked up, I always tell people,
	if you Google the word patience, you're not gonna see a picture of me,
	or probably a picture of Donald Trump, right?
	But we've, in this battle, he's very good at seeing the overall picture.
	And I think that's a sense that I bring to him, is say, hey, this is not on our timing,
	it's on God's timing.
	And we're gonna get to this great place.
	And I try and tell him like I tell everybody.
	The negatives happening are actually positives, because more people, I told him just the other day, I said, they're coming to this bucket.
	You're a uniter, not a divider.
	You are one of the biggest uniters ever because you're standing here for what we, you know, standing up for truth and what's right.
	What's the common sense?
	Just common sense.
	Basically, you can call it anything else.
	One of the things is common sense when you talk about, and I tell people when a party, I don't care who they are, Republican, Democrat, it don't matter.
	When they're making a political decision that doesn't help the people, whether you're a Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, if it doesn't help them, then you've got to ask yourself, there's a hidden agenda, and what is it?
	And you better look at that.
	The problem is, we don't have the, we don't, we don't have the, you know, in the old days, you might have Fox or Newsmax looking at that going, well, this doesn't make sense.
	This is a little bit of a deviation here that Brent Ratzenberger doesn't even want to want to look into this.
	Or Robin Voss of Wisconsin does an investigation and then shuts it down.
	And you're going, now why?
	We found all this.
	You know, we found all this fraud.
	The recommendation was to decertify Wisconsin, and you say you're going to look into it, but I can't look into it unless the judge ruled.
	Then the Supreme Court rules that it says, hey, there's fraud.
	And then you go into hiding until you win again.
	You know, these are the guys, you know, that particular guy right there sends me a text on the 2022 election in the middle of the night and says, Mike, I beat you twice.
	I said, you stole it twice, you traitor.
	He goes, yeah, but I'm going to sleep real good tonight and not on your pillow.
	Let me ask this question.
	When you struggled with addiction, I remember in your book, there was a pivotal moment where Uh, you, you drove to the fair, the Minnesota State Fair, and I don't know if you hit a telephone.
	Oh, I didn't know that was even in there.
	Yes, I did.
	And what year was that, if you recall?
	2008.
	I was there at that fair.
	You were?
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	I actually went to law school for one year.
	Wow.
	At Billy Mitchell.
	And when I read the book, I'm sitting there going, I think I might have, I might have been right around the corner.
	And then I see, I see you.
	I mean, I see all that you've done with your company.
	I see all the, how you've helped addicts, what you've done for the country.
	And I'm like, I remember 2008 was that long ago, but there's a good chance we're in the same parking lot at the fair.
	And it was just one of those things.
	There are so many parallels and things, and I haven't, people don't know my story as much as you do.
	I didn't struggle with The crack, but I actually had a heart attack at 21 because of drug, drug abuse.
	I tell people I did all the drugs you didn't do.
	And you know, I've got a different personality, but there's so many things that, that when I read the book, I'm like, I couldn't be more different than you on our personality, but like the drive, the attention, the focus, and just knowing that those battles physically, like, I don't want to glorify drug use, but people that have abused their bodies know their threshold in a different way.
	So when you get off the stuff, you kind of know your limits in ways that most people wouldn't know.
	Well, I think what you're saying there too, people don't realize addiction is hard work.
	The time put in, I mean, addiction is hard work.
	The Recovery Network, I have this online, the LyndaRecoveryNetwork.org.
	People don't, you know, people don't relate to a counselor that's been there, that's never been there.
	When you go to a secular treatment center, they're going, oh, you let down your kids, you spent all your money, and blah, blah, blah.
	We know that, we're addicts.
	You know, I want to hear from an addict who's been there, and this made it through.
	You know, this made it through.
	But the work that's involved, one of the things that addicts will tell you, is I think all the stuff back then, where, you know, Probably gave me the base for it because I was getting through my faith.
	Even though I wasn't completely saved, I would have these reactionary prayers.
	And I tell people this all the time, too.
	I would sit there.
	Now, was I saved?
	Did I give my life to Jesus?
	No.
	But every time I'd be in jail or whatever would happen, please get me out of this.
	I'll never do this again.
	Well, I call those reactionary prayers, okay?
	And it might not be God's will, okay?
	And I tell people this in my speech last night, all this stuff you're saying, people come up to me all the time, Mike, I prayed, and we're still losing our country, and Donald Trump's not back, and this and that.
	And I go, well, it might not be God's will.
	And I say, well, where's God's will?
	God's will is in the Word.
	If you stay in the word, it rhymes up with being proactive in prayer and you get a piece about you.
	Mike Lindell here.
	And like you, I see our country being destroyed daily.
	We face massive economic issues.
	And I can tell you from first-hand experience, there are people in power who threaten the values that have made our country great.
	I've been a believer in gold and silver for a long time, and I've searched for years for a partner that shares my values.
	Well, Genesis Gold Group showed me how easy it is to protect your IRA, 401k, or your retirement With gold and silver.
	Their faith-driven approach to service and stewardship is one that stands out from the rest.
	So call Genesis Gold Group now at 1-800-200-GOLD.
	That's 1-800-200-4653.
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	You mentioned earlier that you had this direct answer to prayer about Trump and he wept.
	In the interview, you said that you had this direct answer to prayer about Trump and he wept.
	that in.
	In February 2021, now my life was upside down too, because I was employed and all these things.
	And on January 6th, for me, I had a supernatural encounter.
	And I've started having visions or daydreams, but they're really vivid.
	And I don't come from a background of any of that.
	And I'll just tell you that I grew up in a really, really rough circumstances.
	And I had this daydream where I was back busting tables at Godfather's Pizza, where I was when I was 13 years old.
	And we had, you know, I lived down the street from a porno store, a gay bar.
	And I remember looking at all the happy families.
	I'm wiping down the tables.
	And I remember saying, God, am I cursed?
	I wasn't a believer.
	And in February, It's like someone transported me back to the table, and I'm looking around, and it was as if God just wanted to remind me, He's like, you're not cursed.
	And I started crying, but around that same time, I had two vivid, I'll call them vivid daydreams, I don't want to say visions, but when my chest would swell up, I'd always feel like, okay, if my chest fills up and I see something, I can almost take it to the bank.
	And Erin comes into my garage, that's where I work, and she said, why are you crying?
	I'm not cursed.
	And I think I'm going to meet Mike Lindell.
	And I think I'm going to meet the president.
	Now, this is all bizarre, but I just want to tell you, because you know this, not only did I meet you at the symposium for the first time, you're the one that took me to see the president.
	So I just wanted to share that with you, that there's some things when I read the book, I'm like, it was like... And you see, you know, The one of the things, you know, you're bringing up there were people.
	I always bring up January 7th and 8th because I don't see it from outside looking in, you know, as far as where people.
	You know, saying, well, I'm going to meet Mike Lindell.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm still, I'm still getting used to that to this day.
	I was one, as you read my book, I couldn't speak in front of people.
	Can you go anywhere today?
	There's no way you can go anywhere today though.
	No, nowhere.
	And that is, I have people come up to me and want pictures and they'll go, can I, do you mind if we get a picture?
	I say, yeah, in the old days, the only one I wanted in my picture were the cops.
	And you know, but it's, uh, that's one, you know, one of the things, and it's like, it's everywhere.
	It doesn't matter where I am in the, even in the world.
	I mean, because it got out there so much.
	And I look back and I say, you know, and I don't want to, you know, this was God.
	For God, I think prepared, because years ago I thought, well, my pillow is just a platform for something much bigger.
	It is.
	And much bigger.
	And I think what they had, the position God put me in, in January of 21, where everybody else was either in fear or they didn't have the platform or the voice, right?
	It didn't matter if you were not in fear, if you weren't able to get it out there.
	God lined this up for me to be able to, even through getting attacked, to be able to get the word out saying, I don't care.
	Keep shooting me.
	We have to save the country.
	We have to do this.
	For the platform being set up was set up in a number of ways.
	If you look at it from God's point of view, you had to make it where my past, if I'm telling you I was a crack addict, which I did publicly right out of the gate, you're going, well, why would he lie about these other things?
	You know, I didn't care if I got on the cover of National Inquirer back then.
	One time they put a thing, a mug shot, I was in jail.
	This is actually for something I didn't do.
	And I was innocent.
	And you know how I got out of jail?
	Because I was in another jail.
	That was my alibi, you know, for this crime I supposedly committed, right?
	I mean, that's a pretty good alibi.
	But I was just full disclosure.
	You know, full disclosure.
	I can't help my past.
	I can only use it for such a time as this.
	And I think they actually, A friend of mine in the Secret Service came here once to Minnesota, and he said, you know, you're a big target.
	This was even before all the election stuff.
	And he said, this is when I had the stuff for the vaccine, I mean, a supplement.
	And he came up here, because I was getting death threats, everything, from when I had this Oleander.
	And he came up here, and he looked at it, you know, safety, don't take this road, here's what they'll do.
	Because he told me, I go, what do you mean?
	He goes, Mike, You're in a very unique position.
	You have one of the biggest voices in the country, you know, before the 2020 election.
	And he said, they can't get you going backwards because you've already told everything about your life.
	So they can't put mud out there, right?
	Yeah.
	The media can't destroy that, and they really can't destroy you this way, he said, because people are going to say, oh, they're just saying that about him because he backs Donald Trump.
	So they're using that.
	He said, what they're going to do, they're going to come after your company.
	He said, they're going to come after and destroy your money, because if you lose your money, you lose your voice.
	And one of the things in, in, in, in one of the little miracles actually in January and
	February of, and even into the spring, and even as we sit here, you've got to realize
	I lost, we lost our voice with your Newsmax as your Fox with lawfare, your Fox as your
	newsman.
	But the big one for me was Salem media.
	Now, Salem Media is the biggest Christian network in the country, okay?
	I broke bread with the owner.
	They went public though in 17.
	When they did this now, they're thinking, well, we gotta answer to the shareholders.
	Well, I would go on They had rev shares, all these hosts across the country.
	I don't need to name them all, but I got upset one day and I was going to pull my pillows because they would not let me come on and say why I'm getting canceled.
	They'd be on there going, let's help Mike Lindell out.
	He just lost two more retailers.
	Let's help him out and buy, buy, buy.
	Well, they're making money on that.
	But you won't let me come on and say why I'm getting canceled.
	We all remember the thing where the Newsmax where he tore off his microphone when they canceled MyPillow's Twitter, but I couldn't come out and say why they canceled MyPillow's Twitter.
	So I say to everyone, back then I said, what do you think?
	This was that with some of the higher ups at both Newsmax and and say to me, I said, do you think I care?
	If you think I'd rather lose my money over here, which they're attacking or my voice?
	I'd rather lose all my money if I keep my voice and you guys took my voice from me because you're afraid of lawfare.
	You're afraid of, you know, saving of any of speaking out because you're, it's man, you're money driven.
	So that's, that's horrible.
	The reason why, again, we don't talk as often as, you know, you talk with Joe or other people, but, uh, I've got a comfort level and I've talked to Joe about this.
	And the reason why I'm comfortable with, with you, Because I don't follow a lot of people.
	I don't have the temperament for it, but I know your allegiance isn't to money.
	You've been successful, but it's not what drives you.
	And I'm like, I can get behind that.
	Same thing with Joe.
	Joe's super successful, but it's almost like he gets as upset as I do.
	Which is, who cares?
	Save the country!
	And so, one of the things that Joe said to me, and it made me laugh, it's like, he says, you know something?
	People just can't figure out why.
	He's like the, you're like almost a Looney Tune character where it was like, don't go in there, Mike.
	Don't open that box, Mike.
	There's a bomb in there and it opens up and it pulls up.
	But it's like, you are like, you know, you got like Teflon Don with Donald Trump, but you're like Looney Tune tough.
	Yeah.
	That makes sense.
	And that resilience.
	And when I look at- Well, I did go inside of a claw machine.
	So when you go on Jimmy Kimmel, and you go on all these other shows where normally they would just, that would be the end of anything.
	And they told me don't go on, everybody told me don't go on.
	But it's like, they're baffled, because whatever their designs, whatever their traps are, it's like you kind of walk out, the explosion's done, dust off the rubble.
	That's the God's protection, you know.
	That's amazing.
	You ever see this guy with the pillows on Fox?
	My pillow guy!
	Mike Lindell.
	He is the greatest.
	The Mike Pillow guy.
	Mike Lindell.
	And he's been with us right from the beginning.
	Mike Lindell here.
	And like you, I see our country being destroyed daily.
	We face massive economic issues.
	And I can tell you from first-hand experience, there are people in power who threaten the values that have made our country great.
	I've been a believer in gold and silver for a long time, and I've searched for years for a partner that shares my values.
	Well, Genesis Gold Group showed me how easy it is to protect your IRA, 401k, or your retirement with gold and silver.
	Their faith-driven approach to service and stewardship is one that stands out from the rest.
	So call Genesis Gold Group now at 1-800-200-GOLD That's 1-800-200-4653 or go to LyndaleGoldRush.com now.
	Three years ago, FrankSpeech.com was launched during the height of mass media censorship
	to give voices back to those who had their voices silenced.
	This April, Lindell TV celebrates three years of uncensored truth about America's stolen elections, the voting machines, and the fight to return to paper ballots.
	Today, we stand at the precipice of a new era covering the most important presidential election in American history.
	An era defined by the battle for some of our most fundamental rights, freedom of speech, freedom of press, and secure elections.
	We at Frank Speech refuse to be silenced.
	We refuse to bow down to the forces that seek to dictate what we can and cannot say.
	We are the media now.
	Join us in this fight at FrankSpeech.com You might not want to hear what we're saying, but we're
	going to say it.
	Hi, I'm Kevin Sorbo.
	Now, many of you remember me as Hercules, facing incredible odds for the world that he cherished.
	But today, I'm stepping into a different role.
	Not as a mythical hero, but as a fellow American.
	I'm inviting you to embark on a mission crucial to our nation's future.
	At this pivotal moment, America stands at a crossroads.
	Our unity, values, and vision for tomorrow are being tested.
	It might seem like the weight of the world is too heavy for one person to lift, but history shows us that it's the courage of individuals that has always illuminated the path forward.
	The call for heroes is more urgent than ever.
	Not the mythical ones, but real-life individuals like you.
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