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This is the Lindell Report.
Bringing you news combined with hope by offering practical and achievable action points to
assist you in defending and preserving faith and freedoms.
And now, here is your host, Mike Lindell.
All right, Brennan House here in for Mike Lindell, who is out on business.
He was actually flying across the country going to a meeting to work with a group of patriots on the coalition he's putting together, the cyber crime squad, if you will, that he's putting together to get to the bottom of what's been going on.
So he is in the air, I think, right now, headed to a very important meeting with some great patriots.
We're going to be joined tonight By Annie Cyrus for sure, about an Iranian just smuggled over the border in a trunk of a car.
The article is written by our friend Todd Bensman, so Todd is also going to join us tonight as well.
We are hoping to touch base, we're supposed to touch base, with a friend of mine who is a literal rocket scientist, an expert on satellites, Military satellites work for the military and would be a perfect guy to explain to us what's going on with this Chinese balloon that the Biden regime is letting just fly across America.
The last report is it's nearing St.
Louis.
They say it's going to head off down here to the south, the mid-south, come through the Mississippi Delta on out to the east coast like North Carolina, South Carolina area.
The current trajectory What is this all about?
Well, one military official I talked to today, retired, said he believes this is testing America.
Testing our, you know, response.
How will we respond?
He also believes that China and Russia have also been testing on our power grid and other things to see how we will respond.
He also made a very interesting comment, and that is he believes that what's happening in the Ukraine with the Soviet Union, former Soviet Union, with Russia and Ukraine right now is, again, a big gigantic test to get some of our equipment over there, our hardware over there, to see what we're using, how we'll respond for the big show, the big WW3 that's coming.
Yeah, I thought that was a very interesting analysis from one former military officer that Ukraine and Russia is about many things.
One, testing our equipment, what we'll do, how we'll respond in real time and a real scenario for the big WW3 with China and Russia and others.
Well, that'd be Iran, who are in military alliance with Russia and China.
So a good group of guests tonight.
Joining me first is Annie Cyrus.
She's an associate producer, works with me on WVW TV and here at Lyndell TV as well.
And she has her own show as well that we carry on Lyndell TV.
Annie Cyrus, welcome back to the broadcast.
Thanks for joining us.
Thanks so much for having me, Brandon.
Annie, what are your thoughts on this article?
I'm going to bring it up.
Here we go.
written by our friend Todd Bensman who'll be with us in just a minute.
Iranian smuggled in car trunk shows security threat from our open border.
Good news.
The Iranian caught in the trunk of a smuggler's car illegally crossing the southern border last week wasn't on the FBI's terrorism watch list as was previously reported.
Except, even if he wasn't on the list, how is this not a terrifying sign of the national security threat we face?
Your thoughts, please, Annie?
I mean, you're born and raised in Iran.
Yes, and here's the thing.
His name is not on the FBI list or most wanted list.
How do we know?
The picture you just passed by on that article is a copy of, it's a picture of his passport.
It says Islamic Republic of Iran's issued passport.
If they want to send one of their soldiers into America, do you really think it's that hard for them to make up a passport with a name and a last name and have something that's not on the list for him to come in?
It's the Islamic Republic of Iran issued passport.
Just because the name doesn't match anybody doesn't mean he doesn't match anybody.
When you send me this to tell me to get ready to join you, I actually went on actual FBI's most wanted list only on cybercrime.
And out of 118 names on that list, I counted 73 of them who are Iranians.
and counted 73 of them who are Iranian.
73 name out of 118 wanted cybercrime, wanted list of FBI are Iranian.
He may not be one of the IRGC soldiers who's coming here to blow us up.
But remember in 2020 election, we actually had an Iranian cyber attack that every member of them elders ended up getting indicted by a New York federal jury that day manipulated and dead voter intimidation by using their hacking techniques.
How do we know this guy is not one of them?
Wow.
And of course, most Americans have no idea about the Islamic Revolutionary Guard.
They don't even know.
If you say IRGC, they don't know what you're talking about.
What are the chances this guy has served at some point in his life in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard or in the Iranian military?
What is the difference?
Oh, well, here's the thing.
He has most definitely served in Iranian military, which is managed by IRGC.
Why do I say that?
In Islamic Republic of Iran, in order for a man to receive a passport, you have to do your two years mandatory military service.
Otherwise, there is no way you get a passport.
So right there is your proof that he has served in the military.
All right, so if this guy got in this way and he got caught, how many have gotten in that haven't been caught, and do they have to come in through the trunk of a car, or can they just walk over the border from the north or the south?
To be honest, at this point, they can walk through the border, they can be smuggled through the border in trunks, of course, or there are many cases I personally am aware of where they come in With fake visas, you pay between $5,000 to $7,000 in European countries and they will make you a fake visa, American visa, and you come in and then you seek asylum with saying, I came in with forged documentation.
That's another way of coming in.
Wow.
Or you just get a student visa, you know, like the September 11 hijackers.
You just get visas for a student visa, you come in, you never show up to class, and nobody comes past you to see where you're at.
What other things are on your radar right now, Annie?
I mean, we'll make sure our audience understands.
Again, you were born and raised in Iran.
Sadly, you were sold by your own father as a child bride, which really means sex slave, at 13 to a man, what, in his 30s or 40s?
Mid to late 30s.
Okay.
And so you came from a pretty rough situation, escaped through Pakistan.
Turkey.
Turkey, excuse me.
Waited in Turkey for what, like five years just to get into the U.S.?
Three years.
Three years.
And then came here not knowing the language, worked at McDonald's, learned the language, and here you are today working with us on Lyndell TV.
Yes.
That's, that's correct.
And one thing they mentioned on that article, Paul Bensman has mentioned that I really, really enjoyed emphasizing on.
When Iranians show up at the border, even seeking asylum, not being smuggled, but seeking asylum, you never know what's in their heart.
You don't know if they're here to become an anti-Cyrus.
That's not on the article I'm adding this sentence to.
Are they coming here to become an anti-Cyrus?
Or they're coming here to join the lobbyist groups in DC for Islamic Republic of Iran.
Or are they going to become one of those people who are going to go kill in patrol?
You really don't know.
My biggest concern right now is the fact that even though Iran nuclear has been announced
dead by Biden and the Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran, the question is why are we still
talking to them said and confirmed by Robert Malley himself.
My biggest concern is are these negotiations to hand over President Trump to Iraqi Supreme
Court that has issued an arrest warrant for him.
Is this what we're talking to you all about right now?
Because remember, 2024 coming pretty fast.
They have tried everything they could to stop President Trump inside America.
Are they talking to hand him over to Iraqi court for killing Soleimani?
That is what my main focus is right now.
All right.
So in addition to that, anything else you want to brief us on before you go?
Well, I want to just tell everybody, please buckle up, pay attention to what's happening.
Don't let 2024 distract you from what's happening right now.
The borders are disaster.
I mean, you're covering it.
You know, inflation, hyperinflation, economy, all of this is not just the Democrats are doing it to us.
It's the Uniparty, RINOs, Republicans, whatever we call them.
So pay attention to your local activity as far as your local level of governing goes and don't get distracted.
There's so much to be done in order to fix things and we cannot rely on mainstream media because all they're going to do is distract us.
Absolutely.
Pay attention to, you know, Austin Brownhouse.
He's one of the very rare people who will tell you the truth.
Well, you're very kind.
Tell us when your show airs and where.
My show airs at 2.30 to 3 p.m.
Central Standard Time, Monday through Friday on Lyndell TV, and 5 to 6 p.m.
Central Time on WVW TV.
All right.
Annie Cyrus, your website is liveuptofreedom.com.
Liveuptofreedom.com.
Liveuptofreedom.com.
Thank you, Annie, for being with us.
Thank you so much, Brennan.
Joining us now is the man who wrote this article that I just talked to Annie about, and that is, Iranian smuggled in a car trunk shows security threat from our open border.
Todd Binsman wrote it.
Todd, welcome to the broadcast.
Thanks for joining us.
Appreciate it.
Hold one second.
Are you ready if we call you now on Skype?
No, he's not available yet.
All right, try our other guest, too, if you would.
Sorry, we're trying to find the other guest.
It was a retired military guy on this Chinese balloon.
We just got done talking to Annie, who, as you probably know, was born and raised in Iran, is an expert on Iran, and we were talking about your article.
This is on the New York Post.
Congratulations!
Between Daily Mail and New York Post, you're getting a lot of coverage.
Congratulations!
Thanks, yeah.
You know, pretty big circulation papers.
Glad to be there.
Yeah, you deserve to be there, to be honest with you.
You deserve it, Todd.
Thank you.
So, tell us about this.
How did you find this out, and what are your concerns?
So, the news broke on Fox.
Bill Mnuchin broke this story that Texas Department of Public Safety troopers had apprehended an Iranian who was on the terror watch list, the FBI's terror watch list.
That aired.
It really got a lot of attention.
It moved virally very quickly.
And then the DHS contacted Fox and said, it's not true.
He's not actually on the watch list.
And so they kind of had to go back on the air and retract and not retract, but report the new development that he's not on the watch list.
And so, you know, he and Fox were taking a little bit of heat over that.
But from my perspective, any Iranian caught in the trunk of a car smuggling over the Southern border is a security problem.
Uh, there is no possible way that that's a good look ever.
To have Iranians being smuggled in.
It means that that particular Iranian, who's about 30 years old, military age male, was trying to get past border patrol, not planning to turn himself in and claim asylum like so many do, but to just get into the interior.
And that is a problem.
And all I wanted to do is just point out in the New York Post piece why that was a problem.
A. that it was a problem and B. why that is a problem.
So that's kind of what the nexus of the piece, where it came from.
We still have a problem even if he's not on the watch list.
Well, yeah, but Annie brought up a good point.
We'll show it again.
It's in the article at New York Post by Todd Binsman.
Here it is, his passport, his Islamic Republic of Iran passport.
How do we know that's his real name and everything?
I mean, are they looking to see if he's on the terrorist watch list with that name?
How do we know that's not a fake passport created by the Iranian government, the IRGC, to get him in here and to use that if he gets found?
Well, your notion that the IRGC, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, that would bring him in or send him in is perfectly valid.
Why not bring your spies in over the southern border posing as a regular Joe immigrant looking for work or something?
Because, listen, the Iranians are out for American blood.
They have been since 2020, since, uh, uh, president Trump, uh, I don't know what you call it.
Hellfire missile, uh, general Qassam Soleimani.
And they have been, that is a very popular general, uh, for, uh, throughout the, um, the Shia Arab, uh, the Shia world, Muslim world.
And the Iranians have been vowing retaliation ever since.
Doesn't matter that Trump's not in office.
And so, uh, and there, there, there have been plots that were broken up.
There was one that was broken up to murder, uh, South, uh, the American ambassador in South Africa, not to mention that they have all these proxies with Hezbollah and in Venezuela.
And we have seen people from those organizations cross in over the border.
There are clandestine agents.
Look, the bottom line is we don't know who's coming in.
We don't know if their passports are valid passports or made up or fraudulent.
Very often fake documents.
There's a huge black market for fake documents that you can buy and sell and trade.
And often people come in without any documents at all.
I'm surprised that guy even had a passport with him sneaking in In the trunk of a vehicle.
Yeah.
Well, and of course, this is one they caught.
How many got through they haven't caught?
As you have traveled on the border, how many Iranians have you run into along the way?
I have met Iranians.
I've interviewed them.
Not a lot, but a couple of years ago, I met four of them down in Panama.
And one of them spoke English so I was able to interview him at length and I've published the interview.
The other point of this is that there are established, entrenched, smuggling organizations that specialize in moving people from that neighborhood, from Iran, from that whole neck of the woods to the Texas border.
And those organizations are active, operational, and bridging the gap between these vast distances between those adversarial countries and our own border.
And the fact that the United States has broken up a few of these, I point out there was one a couple of years ago where HSI, ICE, Homeland Security Investigations, With the Brazilians broke up a big one that had been operating for 10 years.
Here we got Iranians crossing in again.
So clearly it's reconstituted and that's just not a good thing.
This is not the kind of traffic that we want to ever see crossing the border in the trunk of a vehicle.
Yeah, and not only that, and you're absolutely right, but this is all happening in the context of the United States and Israel practicing military strikes on Iran.
So this is the time for them to move more assets in, in order to carry out terrorist attacks, which they have threatened us.
Their religious leaders and whatnot have said, their clerics and others have said, That America, beware, we are very near.
We are very near to you.
I mean, they're basically saying we have terror cells in your U.S.
How do we know these aren't more?
Adding more people to these terror cells because if Israel decides to work with America and do an attack on Iran, well, they're going to let all heck loose here in the U.S.
with terror cells, right?
Yes, exactly right and you know I just want to point out that this isn't just Todd Binsman is making this assessment.
I can tell you that that mainline Homeland Security intelligence community line agents and intelligence analysts and officers with DOD and with CIA are actively worried about this and actively working on this problem.
All the time.
They care very much about when an Iranian shows up in the trunk of a car.
It's not just Todd Bensman sort of like throwing stones or something like that.
This is a real issue.
For that reason, there are geopolitical considerations here.
The time is not good.
In fact, it hasn't been good for a long time for Iranians to be coming through.
And you're right.
I mean, it's a model That the Iranians and Hezbollah, its proxy, its terrorist proxy that they created and sustain and control, that they infiltrate agents, intelligence agents who are highly trained in target selection, in assassination, use of explosives, and caching explosives.
The Iranians are not far away.
They have bases in Venezuela, which is now a huge source of illegal immigrants.
We've had Lebanese Venezuelans cross who are on the FBI's terror watch list, and in Nicaragua, which is one of the new huge sources of Nicaraguan immigrants crossing in.
You know, the Iranians, since 2007, have had a big embassy there.
With direct flights between Tehran and Managua for years and years, that nobody's allowed to fly except for Iranian and special government officials and diplomats, quote-unquote.
I could tell you in 2000... Wait a minute, I want to back up right there.
Are you talking about the flights from Tehran to northern Venezuela, Caracas, northern Venezuela?
Well, there's that one, but there's also one to Managua, between Nicaragua and Tehran, too, because the Sandinista regime has had very, very close ties with the Iranian government for years and years.
And I can tell you that from personal knowledge.
In 2007, when they struck up this relationship, I went to Managua and chased those Iranians all around the country.
Found their embassy down there interviewed all kinds of people that met them and saw them and dealt with them And they have been there ever since the Iranians, so that's just a couple borders away and and we know also that that just from Nicaragua the Iranian diplomats were able to use their diplomatic pouches to move freely all through Central America and And they have this business model of selecting targets and waiting for orders.
Well, here's an article.
This is newer than the one I was looking for.
I was looking for an older one, because I know there is an older one, because I think back around 2008, 2009, I was talking about the rumors.
I could never get anyone to substantiate it, but the rumors that Iran was building a missile site in northern Venezuela, Caracas, Venezuela, northern Venezuela, about 1,264 miles as the crow flies to Miami.
And I remember them reporting on flights running from Tehran to Caracas, and if you booked months in advance, you couldn't get a seat.
So it really wasn't for people to buy seats.
Who was it for then?
What Iranian officials are flying on this thing, and back and forth, and why?
But I did find one more recent, April 8, 2019.
Iran's Mahan Air launches direct flights to Venezuela.
So again, what is going on here?
And this again is for Caracas, you know?
Yeah, I mean that flight is notorious in the intelligence community.
Everybody knows they're flying their spies and operatives back and forth.
And that Hezbollah has a major presence in Venezuela and has ever since the Iranians showed up.
It was Uh, from the Latin America bases that Hezbollah blew up the Israeli embassy in Argentina in 92 and in another, uh, the Jewish, um, uh, community center there in 94.
I may have those switched, but, um, that, that was all orchestrated from the tri-border region, uh, in, in, uh, South America, these kind of big free trade zones.
Hezbollah is still there.
Hezbollah is on Marguerite Island off the coast in Venezuela.
They've always been very active there.
What people don't realize is that they've been very active much closer to the Texas border in Nicaragua, in Managua.
They are still down there, very active, and it's an intelligence operation.
It's an influence operation.
It's a stepping stone operation.
It has always been that.
Well since 2007 so anytime you have Iranians crossing through we don't even know where they came from where they originated whether the passports a cover You know what what that guy was planning to do once he got it deeper into the interior If he was even halfway legit He would have just shown up thrown up his hands turned himself in and said I declare asylum here I am here's who I am but in the trunk of a vehicle I'm sorry, there is no There's no other way to look at that except that he's hiding something.
He's got something to hide.
Annie just texted me and said those flights opened in 2016 from Mahan Airline and that's the same airline that their plane was stopped in Argentina in 2022 smuggling weapons.
That's right.
That's right.
That's what they use those flights for.
Those are not commercial air.
You and I can't get on those flights.
No average Venezuelan can get on any of those flights.
Look at this headline.
While you were talking, I just searched.
Look at this.
Iran's apparent supply of combat drones to Venezuela highlights terrorism risk.
I mean, we've got a, tonight, here we are on the air, 6.30 Central Time, tonight being Friday night.
February 3rd.
We've got a balloon from China that my sources are saying probably got launched in Canada.
They said I guess it could have come across the ocean, but they highly doubt it.
They think it probably got launched in Canada.
The Chinese have been, and General Vallely and others have warned us for a long time, that the Chinese soldiers go up to Canada and do winter exercises up there like they really have to.
That's weird.
And he says, I wouldn't doubt for one minute that that wasn't actually launched from Canada and now it's blowing around and they're trying to figure out what to do with this thing.
But if you've got your border being penetrated, your airspace being penetrated by a weather balloon, I mean, then you better worry about combat drones being provided by Iran making their way right onto the border in Mexico and being lifted up and thrown over into the U.S., right?
Right.
Well, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the Biden administration to blow that thing out of the sky or take it or seize it and study it.
They're probably just going to let it float around and spy and do whatever it's going to do.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Well, I just find that headline here.
Iran's apparent supply of combat drones to Venezuela highlights terrorism risk.
Then here's another one I found.
Fears over Iranian gunboats delivering missiles to Venezuela.
That is dated 2021.
Here's another one.
Iran to start revamp at Venezuela's largest refining complex within weeks.
um this is a looks like a brand new article i think this one here is saying two hours ago so if that that's the case this is a brand new article um here's another one u.s threatens to destroy iranian missiles shipped to venezuela this one i was back in 2020 um i mean This is something, and yet you're the one, aren't you the one that reported on this show months ago that Iranians are known to get into Iran and get fake passports and come on through from Venezuela to the U.S.?
I have reported that.
I've been reporting on the Iranians in Latin America for years and coming over the border.
Listen, the issue with the Iranians is not theoretical as a threat in this country.
It wasn't that long ago that they hired an Iranian American.
They gave him, they actually transferred $100,000 to this guy's account to conduct an assassination on the Saudi ambassador in Washington.
The only reason, and this is a real plot, this is an Iranian American right here in Texas.
I'm talking to you from Texas.
Big case.
And the only reason he got caught was because he went down into Mexico to recruit some assassins from the cartel and he happened to try to recruit a DEA informant who was implanted down there.
And so the whole thing unraveled.
But not before the Iranians actually transferred the $100,000 to his bank account.
He's in prison for 25 years.
His name is al-Babsiyar.
These guys, the Iranians, are well known for making mischief here.
There have been assassinations tied to the Iranians in LA and they've had assassination plots tied to them in other places inside the United States in recent years.
So having anybody crossing in over the border in the trunk of a car is a big problem.
Well, and recently, before I let you go, Todd, we've gotten more and more reports from Annie Cyrus and from news reports we've brought up to confirm it, that the Iranian regime is threatening folks like her.
She's got 12 fatwas on her head.
Threatening her.
Her 12th fatwa she has come on the show to tell us is from Iran for working with me.
Her 12th fatwa is for coming on my show Because she speaks Farsi and these other languages and then we show the Islamic Revolutionary Guard social media.
I can't read it.
She can.
And she comes on here and she translates this and tells us what's going on.
She came on the air and said that got her her 12th fatwa according to her sources in Iran.
And they were specifically mentioning working with me.
And then she and her team went to research and they found my organization named by them in the dark web.
So apparently I'm on the radar now because I give her airtime and we gave her a show, but you keep reporting like this, you're gonna find you got yourself a little list because there's not many of us out here talking about this to be honest with you.
There really aren't.
I mean, I guess there are more important stories according to the mainstream media, but you and I and Annie and a few others, not many report regularly on Iran, what they're doing and how they're doing it.
I don't know.
They seem to let me slip through their fingers.
I've been chasing Iranians for a lot of years and they don't seem to be too worried about me.
I remember I was in Managua on a reporting trip trying to get into the Iranian embassy in Managua.
Of course, they had all these Nicaraguan soldiers out there and they wouldn't let me in.
I climbed up onto the rooftop of a next door business with a long telephoto lens and was just shooting the entire interior of their embassy and they still didn't fatwa me.
Well, that's what you think right now.
Sometimes it's a little hard to find out if there's been a fatwa on you, because all it takes, I understand, is one religious leader to declare it, and you may not find out about it.
It's not like they take out an ad in the paper to tell you.
So you may have one on you, you just don't know it.
One of my friends, Usama Dakdag, born and raised in Egypt, he's got several on him, he laughed when I told him about this.
He said, oh, and you think you've only got one?
He laughed.
He said, what do you think was the deal when the guy from Saudi Arabia filmed his Quran Pan the crowd while you were speaking to a group where it was standing room only and had multiple weapons and was removed by your off-duty cops and he made another video, he filmed all that, he made another video sitting in his car brandishing five weapons and two semi-automatics and threatened me and my co-speaker who's also from Iran.
He said, what do you think that, how do you think that guy got permission to do that?
He says, my history, my understanding is, I believe, You get permission to do that, that equals a religious leader giving permission.
So he kind of laughed and he said, none of you Americans that are talking and interviewing us have a clue how many fatwas are actually on your head because they don't pick it out and put it in the paper and you don't know what religious leader has announced a fatwa on your head.
You may find out like our researchers find things out in the dark web or whatnot, but yeah.
But I will say this, We are one of the few groups that stay on this.
You, me, Annie, and a few others.
It just doesn't seem to be of an interest to most of the mainstream corporate media.
So I appreciate all you're doing, and I'm so glad this got in the New York Post.
And like you said, if he wants to come over the border and hold up his hands and say, I need asylum, But the fact he's trying to sneak in, because he could do that, but the fact he's trying to sneak in tells you there must be something nefarious going on.
I find the timing interesting with all the talk of war and preparations for war and strikes by Iran and Israel.
Last comment before I let you promote your new book?
Well, Jan, thanks for that.
But yeah, for sure, Fox News has taken a lot of heat for this.
I think that they did a good job of reporting it.
Very often the Border Patrol and federal agencies will get what's called a soundex which is a sound-alike name that seems to match initially on the watch list and then subsequently they get the fingerprints and they start delving into birthdates and other information and then later they find out that the first assessment was wrong You know kudos to Fox for coming back on and saying there's this new information He's not it's this guy is not actually not on the list, but but the reaction to that was you know making fun of the Fox News and Dismissing the report and all I want to do is say no he was in the trunk of a car Trying to sneak into this country
That is just as much a problem as if he was on that watch list.
So, and I just wanted to point out all of these issues that are associated with it.
Absolutely.
Alright, Overrun.
Overrun is coming out real soon.
In fact, I'm supposed to have tonight the mail from the post office.
We've had ice storms here, so we have not been to the post office in like ten days or so, so I'm dying to get my hands on your book, but tell us when the book comes out.
I know a lot of our audience has probably pre-ordered it from what I'm hearing.
Right.
The book comes out February 21.
So it's right around the corner.
It'll go to bookstores.
If you pre-order it, it'll come.
They're going to time it so that it should get to your mailbox on the 21st.
That's my wife and I's wedding anniversary.
So you probably did that in celebration of our wedding anniversary, right?
Well, it's the birthday of one of my daughters, too.
Well, there you go.
Three big things that day.
It's a good date.
And then, you know, From that point I'll be doing interviews and trying to sell the book of course, or hoping that it just sells itself.
The book is really about, it is the first brush at history of this mass migration crisis which is definitely far and away the largest in US history ever to have stricken the country.
It is truly something that is beyond the pale, beyond the American experience and so this is my way of just being able to lay down that track of history about exactly what happened and who caused this thing and what it looked like on the ground and how it unfolded and then where it's going and then how to fix it.
Wow.
ToddBinsman.com is where they can order.
In fact, let me just go over there and show you real quick.
ToddBinsman.com.
Just go there.
There you go.
ToddBinsman.com.
You can watch the trailer, by the way, which we've played.
Overrun, How Joe Biden Unleashed the Greatest Border Crisis in U.S.
History.
You know, my friend, you couldn't have picked a better time for this book to come out.
Yeah, I mean, I was thinking it'd be better to have come out a few months ago, but whatever.
I mean, we're just in the middle of this thing.
It's going to be another two years.
It doesn't look like there's any let up at all.
They're playing around with the numbers right now and with some different strategies to bring the numbers down.
But the same number of people, if not more, and escalating more, will still be coming into the country.
Debilitating American cities and causing a lot of ruckus around the country.
Absolutely.
Pick it up, folks.
Overrun by Todd Bensman coming out February 21st.
Pick it up at ToddBensman.com.
Todd, thanks for joining us.
Hope you and your family have a great weekend.
Did I hear you have a lab?
What do you got over there?
I heard it barking.
Oh, I just have a shelter dog that barks a lot.
I got a couple shelter dogs here.
Did it walk into the room while we were talking?
Somebody delivered something at the front door, which is right over here, and anytime anybody goes near that, the dog goes crazy.
Did he come near you while you were being talked to?
Yeah.
You know how I know?
The audience wouldn't be able to hear it, but I have an earpiece, and I could hear your dog's nails on the wood floor, or on the floor.
So I knew the dog came pretty close to you after it barked, because I could hear its nails on the floor.
The audience couldn't hear it, but if you have an earpiece, you can pick up a lot of stuff the audience doesn't hear.
I was playing it cool so you wouldn't have noticed.
Well, we didn't care.
You know, Delta's around here somewhere.
If people were listening on earbuds to this show, they will often hear Delta's nails on the hardwood floor here.
We feel right at home, so there you go.
Awesome.
You and your dog and family have a great weekend.
Thank you.
You too.
Oh, look.
Look at that.
You can see the feet of Delta.
Delta's feet.
And then that little black schnauzer came in tonight as well.
She doesn't normally come in here.
You've even got a dog bed in your office.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go to the white shop.
That's the MyPillow pet bed that Delta regularly lays on.
We have sold so many of those dog beds thanks to Delta.
Awesome.
Thank you, Todd.
Have a great night.
You too.
Bye-bye.
Todd Bensman checking in.
Check out his site, toddbensman.com.
What are you doing?
I know what time it is.
It's almost 7 o'clock.
I bet you haven't had your dinner tonight.
She normally eats at 6, so I guess you're probably standing here asking for dinner, aren't you?
I haven't fed you, so apparently you haven't eaten.
Well, give me 15 minutes, hon, and I'll give you some dinner.
All right, there's a new article up tonight at leoholman.com.
Check out this headline.
Leo's gonna be on with me tonight, along with three-star General Retired Thomas McInerney, General Thomas McInerney, along with Rob Linstead and Andy Woods, and a police officer fired for Defending traditional marriage on his own Facebook page at an own time.
But Leo's gonna join me real quick tonight because he just put out a new article over at leohoman.com.
Here it is.
Breaking news.
Chinese spy balloon likely gathering intel for EMP attack.
Washington Examiner is quoting sources within the intelligence community who say the Chinese balloon floating over America from west to east is likely on a mission to To collect intel that would aid the Chinese in launching an EMP attack.
It could be a dry run of sorts.
High-altitude balloons, such as the one China has floated over mountain state military bases this week, are considered a key delivery platform for secret nuclear strikes on America's electric grid, according to intelligence officials.
The Examiner reports, adding, quote, spy balloons used by Japan to drop bombs during World War
II are now far more sophisticated, can fly at upward to 200,000
feet, evade detection, and carry a small nuclear bomb that, if
exploded in the atmosphere, would shut down the grid and wipe out electronics in a mini-statewide
area.
The threat of a balloon-launched electromagnetic pulse attack was warned about by Congressional
EMP Commission and inside the military several years ago, end quote. And don't I know it,
because that Congressional EMP Commission, folks, folks.
The chief of staff was my friend, the late Dr. Peter Vincent Pry, who sat at this very news desk and produced from our studio, in this room, from this desk, his TV show.
And he has been, he was, really, in many regards, the John the Baptist crying in the wilderness.
I remember him warning about, yeah, you could even use a balloon!
To deliver an EMP attack.
Now, I'm getting reports, if they're accurate, I'm getting reports that this thing has been as high as 60,000 feet!
60,000 feet!
I was talking to a pilot who flies fighter jets, and he was talking about that height.
And how high that is.
And so the talk of shooting it down, yes, it can be done, but he was saying, at these heights, this thing is getting more complicated, not to mention the cost of shooting it down.
But of course, he was going to share more with us, but we've been unable to reach him.
But I'm going to tell you, I'm telling you what he told me, but he was going to be here with us tonight.
But he is on Colorado time, so he may have gotten his times messed up.
But this is exactly what Dr. Peter Vincent Pry was warning about.
You could even deliver an EMP through a balloon.
Is this testing?
Apparently they're just gonna let this thing fly on by, coming through here the Mid-South, come on through the Mississippi Delta and on to the East Coast.
North Carolina, South Carolina.
That's what they're reporting now.
Leo says, I've gone on the record over the last year and a half saying that a Chinese-Russian attack on America is on the shelf and being seriously considered.
The balloon is no longer over Montana, it's now over the middle of America.
Of course our military leaders act as if they're paralyzed by fear and incompetence.
Update.
Chinese balloon is approaching the Whitman Air Force Base, Whiteman Air Force Base, in Missouri.
That's where the B-52s are.
Located in the center of the United States, where the B-52 strategic stealth bombers are based.
Source, Associated Press.
After the Russian-Ukrainian war broke out one year ago, and the West responded in all the wrong ways, I was personally convicted, or convinced, that the globalists have already decided to bring World War III into being.
The Chinese and their traitorous allies within the Western government, especially the US, European Union, Australia, and Canada, are going to launch this war, and there is nothing we can do to stop them.
I believe it would likely start with an EMP attack.
That's why the below article in today's Washington Examiner is huge breaking news.
The writer cites the research.
Well, there you go.
I'm reading this on the air for the first time.
The writer cites the research of the late Dr. Peter Vincent Prye, who died in August of 2022 and was the premier eminent authority on EMP attacks.
And again, I know that because I produced his weekly radio show every Monday at 11 a.m.
Central Time.
I produced his radio show.
And did so until late July.
He passed away in August.
He did it as long as he could, but the illness finally got to a point where he just couldn't do it.
I didn't know he was going to quote Peter, because I'm seeing this article for the first time since I've gotten on the air.
I found it after we got on the air.
And I've already texted Leo during the show and asked him to join me tonight.
Here is what the Washington Examiner is reporting.
I want to find where he's quoting Pry.
Here we go.
The threat of balloon-launched electromagnetic pulse attacks was warned about by a congressional
EMP commission and inside the military several years ago, the commission chaired by Dr. Peter
Pry.
In a 2015 report for the American Leadership and Policy Foundation, Air Force Major General
David Stuckenberg, one of the nation's leading EMP experts, wrote extensively about the threat
balloons, threat balloons carrying bombs pose to national security.
Quote, using a balloon as a WMD, WME platform could provide adversaries with a palette of altitudes and payload options with which to maximize offensive effects against the US.
End quote.
That's what he wrote in the report.
A high-altitude balloon could be designed, created, and launched in a matter of months.
Logan, try Jason.
I think he's ready.
This is a former Navy pilot who's also an expert on satellites and a literal rocket scientist.
So we're gonna try to grab him.
On Friday, he told Secrets, China's recent balloon flyover... Who am I quitting here?
Who is Secrets, okay?
Yeah, a high-altitude balloon could be designed to create and launch in a matter of months.
There's nothing to prevent several hundred pounds of weapon material from being delivered to altitude, he said.
On Friday, he told Secrets, quote, China's recent balloon flyover in the United States is clearly a provocative and aggressive act.
It was most likely a type of dry run meant to send a strategic message to the U.S.
We must not take this for granted, end quote.
Now in the private sector, Stuckenberg, a national security expert and scientist who led the Defense Department's EMP Task Force and chairman of the American Leadership and Policy Foundation, pointed to Japan's World War II Project Fugo that targeted the U.S.
with balloon bombs as an example of the threat.
Quote, not since World War II has North America faced a threat of this nature.
Project Fugo in Japan used balloons to float bombs on the trade winds across the Pacific to the U.S.
and Canada.
Wow!
EMP experts have warned that China, North Korea, Russia, and Iran have programs to hit the U.S.
grid with electromagnetic pulse weapons that would cut the cord for a year or longer.
Hey Jason, I'm gonna put you on the air here.
I'm gonna have Jason join us by phone.
We're trying to reach you by Skype, but we're gonna go ahead and do this by phone.
I've been reading a new report out tonight from the Washington Examiner, also an article by Leo Holman.
It's exactly what Peter Vincent Prye was saying on his show, Radio and TV, with us, and is now quoted in this article, that this could even be used to, as Peter Prye warned, used to launch an EMP attack this balloon could be.
Jason joins us now by the phone, a retired military fighter pilot, test pilot, expert on rockets.
He's a literal rocket scientist.
Jason, what do you make of this balloon?
Where do you think it came from?
Canada?
Was it launched in Canada?
Did it come from China or launched in Canada?
What do you make of it now?
How high is it flying and what could it be doing?
Yeah, all good questions.
I've heard some various reports.
It's up at about 60,000 feet.
That's higher than your typical passenger jet.
They're usually up in the around the 40,000 feet, 30 to 40,000 feet area.
So it's pretty high.
I've been close to that altitude in a fighter jet.
Not quite up to 60,000 feet.
The air starts getting pretty thin and performance isn't great, so we preferred not to get that high.
We have, you know, like the SR-71 and the U-2 spy planes certainly live up in that area and above, but they don't carry weapons.
They're reconnaissance aircraft.
So it's up pretty high the wind is pretty strong from the west probably 50 to 150 knots So it's it's blowing pretty good up there and very very cold environment So, where did it come from?
Well, obviously, you know, it's how do we know it's Chinese so they would have to Determine that in in there's there's a several ways they could determine it most of which are classified but then You know, point of origin would be the easiest one.
So if we saw it take off from a location and track it here from China, you know, I heard reports that it came from the, you know, potentially could have come from our Northwest towards Alaska over the Aleutian Islands, through Alaska, and then through Northwestern Canada, and then into Montana.
That's possible.
I believe that it probably originated from Canada.
I think that'd be easier, less risky.
and just launch it just north of our border.
You know, there's been various reports.
There was supposed to be a joint exercise with Canada and China back in 2019, some winter exercises.
Canada supposedly called that off, but why were they looking at making, you know,
having coordinated exercises with China to begin with?
They are, yes, they are economic partners, but militarily and politically, they're definitely not.
They're enemies.
They're stated enemies.
They have stated it.
We have stated it.
So, Canada looking to do anything with China is very curious.
We know that we have a sitting president that is an agent of China.
I will make that categorical statement.
I don't expect the regime in power now to do anything about it.
How do we know it's Chinese, first of all?
Do you believe China has troops practicing in Canada?
And, you know, I think those are questions that the DOD should answer.
And there's many numerous ways they can answer those without revealing any classified information.
Do you believe China has troops practicing in Canada?
And if so, could they have launched it from Canada?
Yeah, I would say if they do have troops, you know, just the mere fact that Canada was
talking in 2019 with China and they were planning on having exercises and that got squashed.
Well, who was who was in power at the time here in America?
Donald Trump, that clearly wasn't going to fly.
Who's in power now?
Well, China Joe.
So could they?
Yeah, I believe there's a good possibility, particularly with Trudeau up there that, yeah,
So, this can't be for surveillance, really.
I mean, I guess it can be, but they don't need it for surveillance.
I mean, you're an expert on—you're a literal rocket scientist.
You built satellites and launched them for the government, for the military.
absolutely in the realm of possibility.
So this can't be for surveillance, really.
I mean, I guess it can be, but they don't need it for surveillance.
I mean, you're an expert on, you're a literal rocket scientist.
You built satellites and launched them for the government, for the military.
I mean, I know there's a lot you can't talk about, but China can surveil us all day long
They don't need this balloon to do it do they?
No, there's there is so much technology out there on orbit from all kinds of technologies, you know, open source to, you know,
classified, that they wouldn't need a balloon for surveillance of really any kind over the
states.
Plus, there's the Open Skies Treaty, that's primarily with Russia, but still, they could
have a Russian aircraft and their military allies with Russia, and it'd be trivial for
them to just do an Open Skies.
Now, the Open Skies Treaty, basically, you know, you have to give warning and you can button up a lot of things and then say, sure, come fly overhead.
I was in Patuxent River doing my test tour there and, you know, there were numerous times we would just, you know, take off and fly somewhere when we knew something was going to, you know, overfly.
They do the same thing and we know that.
We see what they move.
And same thing, but nonetheless, there's lots of other technologies that they could use.
I think more importantly, this is more of a put something of Chinese origin in American
airspace, even if it's a, you know, people are calling it a balloon.
It's not a balloon.
It's a very large balloon.
I think calling it a balloon makes it seem like it's a, you know, Milo or Walmart happy
birthday balloon or happy Valentine's Day.
It's not.
It's a very large structure, a very large, about the size of three, about the size of
three buses they're reporting.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's it's quite large and then the structure underneath it from what I've seen is again quite large and It doesn't look like there's any payload on it.
They could hide payload internally to it.
That wouldn't be that big of a challenge, but likely not.
I think it's probably kind of a signals intelligence thing, but even not.
Even if it isn't, just placing something In our airspace is a pretty big deal.
Is it likely testing for EMP?
Could it be testing for EMP as Dr. Pry warned about?
Um, what could be, I think it certainly is, you know, they've said, oh, it's just an experimental.
We're looking at weather.
Sure.
They could be looking at weather of the United States to understand what the wind patterns are.
And, uh, you know, for other reasons.
So sure they could, it could be just a weather balloon.
Okay.
But it is still a Chinese, um, aircraft.
It's an air vehicle that is in our airspace.
And, uh, Regardless of what the ODS said, I understand, you know, the tactical and strategic aspects of it, that even if they are gathering all kinds of intelligence off of it, it's going to be minor and limited and we're not feeling too threatened.
But I really don't care about any of that.
And that's not the point.
The point is that there is a Chinese air vehicle in American airspace and not by invitation.
So they have violated our sovereign territory.
Well, we don't seem to care too much about our southern border, so apparently we don't care about our northern border either.
And we're not just talking about human violations, now we're talking about any kind of violation of our sovereign borders and our ADIZ, our air defense zones, that we're gonna just allow these things in.
Now that to me sends a bigger message And that's a significant problem.
I'm going a little over tonight.
The music's already played.
I gotta cut it.
But before I do, but this is so important, I want to finish it up real quick.
So, could they shoot this thing down?
How difficult is it?
For everybody saying, well just shoot it down, just shoot it down.
How difficult is that at 60,000 feet?
It's not particularly easy, but I would probably do an AIM-7 air-to-air missile.
They're not terribly expensive, about $125,000 a pop.
I think this storage will probably cost about $50,000 to $100,000, so that's an even exchange if we're just looking at the finances.
Getting up there, a little challenging, but nonetheless, it's not flying fast.
and we can get something at that altitude. It looks like it's got metal on it so we could
probably get a radar lock and then use a radar guided missile on it so the AIM-7 would be a
good choice and that should not be a very hard shot to take.
And if nothing else we should do it for the PR problem it's creating in America and the
signal it's sending around the world.
Exactly.
Just to say, American airspace is sovereign.
You will not violate it.
And that, to me, is a bigger defense issue than anything else.
Any of the other things that we're talking about, and then the concern about, you know, well, the debris might fall.
Well, again, it's blown at about 50 to 100 plus knots up there.
It'll move about 20 to maybe 100 miles east.
And if you look on a map on Google about central Montana, Great Falls area, there's nothing that is of much threat.
And we can track it and we could identify where it would likely land.
to within reasonable accuracy to warn people if we thought it was going to hit
a neighborhood but that part of Montana there's not a whole lot out there other
than some some planes so there's I don't see why we're concerned. And then finally
the big the big takeaway here is China doesn't respect our airspace, our
The White House is compromised by China, so they obviously are happy about this and not going to do anything.
And this is a sign that China is trying to humiliate us on the world stage, show how weak we are, and they are likely, again, watching to see how the military responds so they know what they can get away with in the future.
Certainly, yeah.
I'm sure they're watching our defenses as well, seeing what gets lit up, what's looking at them, what's tracking them, what does our posture look like, and then who knows what's next.
What's after this balloon?
Another balloon?
A few more balloons?
How about a, you know, a bomber?
You know, so what's next?
Because this is just the starting point if we don't do something about it.
And you think we are going to war with China by 2025 at least?
Yeah, you know, I think a lot of the folks out there prognosticating on this are pretty accurate.
The signs are pointing that way, particularly with China Joe in office.
I think they are getting emboldened all the time and they are being given access to a lot of our secrets, a lot of our military information vis-a-vis Afghanistan and what we left there and provided to them as well as, you know, probably top secret documents that I don't know could be left in a garage for anyone to grab.
And then finally, when you wake up on the morning that China has declared war on the U.S.
officially, if Americans think their life's going to go on and the war will be over Taiwan and over there, think again.
The first thing they're going to do is go to the new way of warfare, as Peter Fry warned, and likely put down our power grid, correct?
Yeah, I think you'll wake up and wonder why your alarm clock didn't go off, or maybe your phone does, maybe, unless there was an EMP, and then you'll go to get your coffee and realize your coffee machine won't turn on, then you'll open your fridge and see there's nothing in there, and then after a few days you're going to wonder, where are you going to get food from?
Where are you going to get water from?
How are you going to flush your toilets?
That's what common Americans are going to be wondering.
Meanwhile, we're at war.
Whether or not it's here at the homeland doesn't really matter.
The mass public is going to be in an absolute terror panic because they won't know what to do.
Which will distract our leaders big time from concentrating on them invading Taiwan.
Absolutely, yeah.
And if China does something, they will do a multi-axis attack, very abrupt, very sudden, very quick, very...
Powerful, right?
They're going to shut down, you know, I would say they would probably go after the grid.
They're going to go after our cyber, everything, anything and everything they can.
And they're going to go after power.
Those are the big things.
And then food.
They own, they're one of the largest landowners in America, particularly a farmland.
So they can just stop producing today.
And in a year or two, we're not going to have enough food to feed ourselves.
You bet.
Jason Pratt, retired US Navy test pilot as well as rocket scientist and expert on satellites,
retired.
Jason, thanks for being with us.
You bet.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you.
Jason Pratt checking in.
Thank you for your service as well.
Jason Pratt checking in.
We went over, but man, what an interview.
Very vital.
I've known him for years and you can see why we wanted to reach out to him tonight.
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