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And now, here is your host, Mike Lindell.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to the Lindell Report.
We got a really, really big show tonight.
It's a great show.
A lot of things happening.
I'm just getting Facebook Live put in here.
Okay, let's see.
Here we go.
And it's blocking me.
Well, we'll skip that for tonight.
So everyone, we had the, I did three events over the weekend for Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
We had Clay Clark event up in Pennsylvania.
That was awesome.
A thousand, thousand, thousands of people showed up for that.
And then we had a Flashpoint in Arizona and went down there for that.
And then on Saturday went to, where were we Saturday?
Texas.
Corporate Christie, Texas.
And when I was in Texas, everybody, When I was down there for that rally, the Sheriff's Department, they gave me a, they gave me a pin.
You might want to check this out in the news.
And I spoke outside.
Now we're doing a rally outside the rally.
So when my people are all waiting in line, you got like, you know, tens of thousands of people waiting in line to get in.
They've waited there, some of them two or three days at these rallies.
And so they put an entertainment thing outside where we are up on stage.
We are on right side broadcasting and I was the first one.
It was kind of like an interview setting and I had that pen and I started telling Brian and Christina Bob about what the sheriffs and how important they are and about voting same day.
Don't wait.
Just wait to vote.
Wait to vote same day, November 8th.
Don't vote early.
Unless you absolutely have to.
And I was telling them this, and then they did this big hit job on me in the Huffington Post.
So, once again, it went viral, helping us out in the left-wing media, the leftists out there, these attack groups that have been attacking me actually now for the last three days solid on Steve Bannon.
They wanted to know about Steve Bannon, attacking him.
All these different things, but they went after the... Mike Lindell carries a sheriff's badge, just like Hershel Walker.
They gave me a lapel pin, the sheriff's department did in that county.
And by the way, everybody, so I'll say this now.
Vote same day, November 8th.
Keep your ballot.
If they mail one to you, I don't care what state you're in.
And bring that ballot to you, and if they say you've already voted, you call your sheriff and turn it in.
I've had Bloomberg today.
They called.
I've had some terrible newspaper in Denver call.
I've had all kinds of media call today.
But they have a theme.
I can usually figure out what hit job they're doing by just a few minutes on the phone with them.
The biggest thing they're doing is they're going after people that are trying to discredit the cast vote records.
They're saying that, oh, the county clerks, you've disrupted, Mike, you've disrupted.
They have so much work to do now.
That's what they're paid to do.
I'm really sorry.
Do what they did at San Francisco Township, where they just put them right up on their website.
This is our Freedom of Information Act, where everyone in this country can get.
And now, Brandon, are you there?
Chris Krebs was Director of the Cyber Security and Infrastructure... Yeah!
It doesn't sound like he's here yet, but I want to tell everyone, we had last night on 60 Minutes, that's what Brandon's trying to pull up, I believe, they had Dominion on, the CEO of Dominion on there, completely lying!
Yeah, I'm here.
That the machines are not online, machines are not online, and all these different things, and one lie after another, And, Brad, do you have a couple of them clips you can put up before we bring Janelle on, or we can bring her up right now?
No, I've got... I've got these clips where she can comment on them, too.
Yep.
We have some of these clips ready to go right now.
Let me bring up the first one.
All right, here's the first one.
You ready?
Yep.
Here we go, Logan.
Were you associated with the late Hugo Chavez?
Absolutely not.
Do you use a Venezuelan company's software that's been used to steal election out of the countries?
Absolutely not.
Anderson, I can cut all of this short.
We were founded in Toronto, which is where my family was from, and there was nothing to do with Venezuela.
Can you flip votes in the computer system?
Can you add votes that did not exist?
Absolutely not.
Okay, Mike.
That's the first one.
Well, we're going to have on at 6.30, everyone.
Clinton Curtis is going to come on.
Remember, he's the one.
He's a Democrat.
He's the one that did the first cheating algorithm.
Right, Brandon?
That's right.
So it's funny how the CEO of Dominion.
And what does that have to do?
Oh, we were founded in Toronto.
It's where my family lives.
Good for you, Special K. I mean, that doesn't mean you're not a criminal.
You know, I was born, I was born In the United States, what are we doing with these software made up in Toronto or whatever he's doing?
He never did a dress brand that the software that they use goes back to ES Nasdaq and Smartmatic and all that.
But we have great news out of Wisconsin.
Is Janelle there?
Yep, Janelle Branschen, Representative Janelle Branschen.
She put out a very powerful press release today.
Janelle, welcome to the Lindell Report with Mike Lindell.
Hey, how are you guys?
Great, thank you for joining us.
Appreciate your joining us.
Hey, Mike.
Hello, hello, Janelle.
Hey, Brandon.
Logan, take me off the thing.
I've got to adjust my volume.
I'm not hearing very well.
If you two can just go ahead and start talking.
So, Janelle, you put out a press release today.
It is titled, actually it came out October 21st, Voting Machines Connected to Non-Government Organizations.
This is something we were talking about last week, and we want more information on this.
In fact, people were asking me today, is there any more information on this?
And I said, well, we're going to have Representative Janelle Branson on tonight.
What can you tell us?
Well, I think the information speaks for itself, and we tried to be real careful about it.
But yes, at this point, we do have some clerks that have stepped forward and have showed us three different dates when The modems themselves had connected to a non-government entity before the election or during the election itself.
So, as you can imagine, we're all really surprised about that.
And we're awaiting some information from some other clerks as well.
So, you know, it's always been explained to us that when the modems, and not every Dominion machine has a modem, that depends on how How if it's newer or not, but we've been it's been explained to us that it does use the cellular transmit transmission through the phone and their security on each end that it goes to the county clerk and then coming from this particular.
Machine if it has the modem in it.
So we've always been told it was a secure line that it only goes to one place.
Well, we have at least two machines in Wisconsin that did go to a different Location and so we're trying to have that conversation now as to why right?
Why?
Why would it be necessary for that information about the from that machine to have to go to something other than the county clerk for the results?
And folks, understand that Janelle Branson is the chair of the Campaign Elections Committee.
And here's what she said in this press release on the 21st of October, quote, It's extremely alarming to learn that our election data can be transferred around the globe in such a cavalier manner.
We learned the machines were connected to WISCnet on three elections dates, November 3rd, 2020, April 5th, 2022, August 9th, 2022.
Yet, we are continually told by our election officials and by Speaker Voss that the machines have no modems and the data is secure.
This new evidence suggests otherwise, with data being extremely vulnerable.
The questions raised by this exposure need to be addressed immediately.
One, Who programmed the tabulators to connect to an unauthorized non-government organization and for what purpose?
Two, why didn't the firewall detect the devices?
Oh!
Three, which public officials knew of the connection?
Four, who took what took place via the connection?
Five, how many other machines are connected to Wisconsin Net or other non-government organizations?
Who are you asking those questions to?
Hey, Brandon, hold on.
Hold on.
I have number six.
Number six.
Why does Robin... Okay, go ahead.
Wait, you broke up.
What was number six?
Why does Robin Voss continue to be the biggest blocker, or at least in the top three of the United States?
All the stuff that's come out of Wisconsin, the Speaker of the House, he's, I don't know, I can't even explain it.
Robin Voss has to go to save Wisconsin.
It's, he's disgusting.
I'm sorry, disgusting.
Remember back in May, Janelle and Brandon, when he, he said, if I seen something, if a court made a ruling, then we could overturn stuff.
Well, the Supreme Court of Wisconsin made a ruling and he still did nothing.
He went into hiding.
Is Robin hiding?
Is he afraid Adam Steen is going to get a write-in and vote him out?
I think that there is a very real race happening in the 63rd district between Adam Steen and Robin Roth.
I think there's a very real race.
And the president's behind Adam Steen.
I don't know if he put out... When you put that out, Janelle, did you see?
Our real president, of course, I'm talking about.
He gave you a compliment for putting this out and digging into this, and you're a hero, and you don't stop there.
So in other words, what you put out there, what you've seen, that completely contradicts what Dominion said their CEO said last night on 60 Minutes, right?
Well, depending on what machines he wanted to quote to, but we certainly know that some of the Dominion machines have the ability to supposedly just put in those information, it's supposed to go to the county clerk.
And that has all been done by a cellular commitment.
Just that's supposed to go between the machine and the county clerk.
Now we have some additional information that's something else.
And I want to be really clear here.
This is not all my work.
I have so many people And so many patriots in Wisconsin that have stepped forward and helped us, brought this information, helped us weed out truth from fact.
We have an incredible group of patriots in Wisconsin and I pray every day because I am incredibly grateful for all of their help.
They are awesome.
It's hard to top Wisconsin with all the... I know we've got great ones in Arizona and Michigan and Georgia, everywhere I've been.
I spent the most time in those four states.
And you're right, there's a whole team of people.
They just won't give up on our country.
And Wisconsin, the one thing you have in Wisconsin that I don't believe any other state has is you have one Like piles of evidence.
This time you did a seven-month investigation by an ex-Supreme Court judge, Gableman.
You have, even Robin Voss did say there was widespread fraud, but he didn't do anything.
He actually told me personally, Mike, until we get a Republican governor, my hands are tied.
Robin, you're a liar.
You're not going to get a Republican governor unless they want you to have one.
They meaning the Uniparty that you're probably in, Robin.
And it's disgusting.
He's almost there.
For me, he's about neck and neck with Brad Rausenberger.
That's saying a lot, I'll tell you that.
You get up there neck and neck with Brad Rausenberger, you've got to be one of the biggest traitors I believe this country has ever seen.
With this new evidence, I mean, Wisconsin is just like one thing after another with the WEC, the Wisconsin Election Committee.
All the nursing homes in Racine County, you have all the suck-a-buck drop boxes.
Now you've got this, where you have machines sending out data to other, to a foundation, basically, some crazy foundation, WisNet.net.
And I guess we, Brandon, who did we have on the other night, Peter?
Peter Bergener?
I can't remember, Logan?
Dan Eastman, Peter Bergener.
Yeah, you got it right.
You got it right.
Yep.
Yeah.
And Peter, and he showed where it went, not only went to Wisconsin now, but then it spun out from there.
And this was a two way street.
He showed us all of the, the, um, the IP addresses and stuff where this thing fanned out, you know, one of them interesting, uh, one of them kind of went towards a little Kathy Bernier, who's bad mouthed me personally in Wisconsin.
And, uh, It's just amazing how these... What's that?
Me too, as well.
Yeah, yeah.
She's something else.
We've had... We put up her phone number.
We waited... We're gonna wait to get all the details before we put her phone number and her email up again so people could say, you know, why is this coming towards you or what's going on?
She's disgusting.
Another Republican blocker.
You know, I was just asked this today, Janelle, by the media.
I think it was Bloomberg asked me.
They said, Mike, how...
They said, they were talking about cast vote records, and one of the things they said to me is, well, Mike, it seems that the Republicans don't want to give you the cast vote records, because they're true.
We've got most of the blockers have been Republicans on the cast vote records.
And I said, well, that just proves more than anything a uniparty.
If you're a Democrat down in Georgia, when you get zero votes in your own precinct, I'm sorry.
Why would anybody ever want machines used in a voting in any election in history?
This is what's, um, have you been with your finest stuff?
Does the media ever go after you in Wisconsin?
Oh, absolutely.
I'm, I'm considered a right wing nut job, right?
And all of the things that are said about people that want to get to the truth.
Mike, I think you make a really good point because if there's, if there's no problems with the data and the information, Then they should be willing to just hand it over, right?
You should be able to show your work during an election.
In the state of Wisconsin, for 22 months, the submit information, the cast ballot information, the ballots themselves, on the programming, is all supposed to be made available.
And that's because elections should be transparent.
People should have confidence in it.
And if the elections are run as required by law, then All the information should be made available.
Janelle, how many Dominion machines or how many precincts in your state use Dominion machines?
And do you have proof that Dominion machines are connected to this WISNet?
Well, we certainly, if I was to give you a number, I would say maybe like half and half, half ES&S, half Dominion.
It is listed by county.
You can look that up under the Wisconsin Election Commission website.
It does list what your county is.
As far as... I can only show two at this point.
I think there'll be more information coming in as we go forward.
I have to... I want to... When you say two, what do you mean two?
Two Dominion machines in the state of Wisconsin.
Okay.
And have you been able to prove they are connected to WisNet, those Dominion machines?
We can prove that they certainly had the... they went to those addresses.
Whoa.
And that is the tapes that you had seen.
So remember, and people have to understand, it goes super fast, right guys?
This happens in a nanosecond.
This information then goes from there.
It's transmitted within, you know, mere seconds that allows that information from that community to go out at the speed of light.
So we have made other requests.
I want to make sure that people know two things.
Number one, the clerks in Wisconsin have been very helpful.
They've provided us a lot of information.
They want to work with us.
They want to provide really good elections.
And we've had a lot of really good help from them.
We wouldn't have this information without their help.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
And number two, in this whole conversation, I still need your vote.
I still need you to vote and make sure that if you want the kind of changes to guarantee Republican, Democrat, Independent, that we have fair and transparent elections, I still need to make sure that you are showing up and voting on election day because change can only happen If we are working together to fix this, right?
Exactly.
But the chair of the Assembly Committee on Campaign and Elections, you, are saying right now on the Lindell Report that you have information that shows that two Dominion machines were connected to this WISNET system, which therefore would refute what the founder of Dominion said to 60 Minutes, correct?
That is correct at this point.
If he's the founder, he was the CEO of Dominion.
I don't know if you want to call him the founder.
Well, maybe he is claiming ownership.
Well I think he refers to himself that way, but we'll see.
Well, maybe his claiming ownership, either way, is corrupt.
When you put out these five questions, Janelle, the five I read a while ago, who do you expect
will answer those?
And do you have the subpoena power as the chairperson to call in some people and put them under oath and demand these answers?
Well, I think the largest question is now that we have an election coming up so soon, and I think we may have more information in the next couple weeks as we've had so much help from clerks around the state of Wisconsin, We may have some more information here that solidifies the situation that on election night that the modem should not be used.
And so the machines could be used, but the modems could not for transmitting.
And I know that would make a lot of clerks uncomfortable.
It would allow them to either email the information, it would allow them to maybe take a text message, it would allow them to drive in the information, because You know, the information on election night is not a guarantee.
It's not a lock, right?
It is only the results that still can be challenged until we go through the entire Canvas process, and as well as the next day when the clerks drive all this information in to their county clerks.
So, now that we know that the machines may or may not, someone may have either nefariously or mistakenly, we don't know, right?
There is now coming up in Wisconsin what's called the LNA, the logic test, right?
And so the logic test is something that's done in the public in Wisconsin, and they put in several different variations of the ballots themselves into the machines to make sure that the machines are working correctly.
I would ask the people of Wisconsin to go to these logic and accuracy tests, LA tests, which are done between 14 and 10 days before the election.
And when they're there, ask to get a copy of the logic, the logic tests so that they can actually see that that sheet that comes out before the before the machines are locked down.
What would that do?
That gives us, all of us in the state of Wisconsin, and that's why it's a public test.
48 hours before they're going to do these public tests, they have to be published.
Be polite to your clerks, be professional, and ask for the opportunity to see the tape that comes out from that logic test so that you can either put it on your phone or ask for a copy from the clerk so that before the machines are locked down and sealed, that we know if there's any other information that's been sent to them for a different phone line.
You know what, Janelle, what you're talking about there, they actually did that, I don't know if you remember this, Brandon, they did it in the primaries in Alabama.
And the public was invited there, too, and I believe they had ES&S.
Remember, everybody, it's all the same.
ES&S, Hart, Siebold, Smartmatic, Dominion, the names have been changed just to protect the guilty, period, okay?
So, what they did in Alabama, true story here, I'm gonna, my old buddy John Merrill down there, the Secretary of State, What they did, Janelle, the public showed up and a lot of them went and just got pieces of paper, like paper, like, you know, obviously they weren't ballots, because they went and got them from a, you know, typing paper or whatever, and they fed these fake ballots into the machines.
We have it on tape in at least two locations, and then two other ones where it's verbal what they've seen, but we have it on tape accepting this paper.
Now, we also had on tape a conversation with John Merrill that these concerned citizens had.
And you know what John did?
He called around to all the counties and said, don't let the public in there anymore.
They're putting big paper into the machine.
Isn't that what the testing should be?
I mean, you need to test these machines.
That's why the public was invited.
Couldn't believe what they did down there in Alabama.
Once again, a big cover up by a Republican secretary of state.
It seems like every state has a blocker and, you know, Wisconsin is blessed with Robin Voss and quite a few actually.
If they, and I want to say this, as close to the election as we are, I love it that you have that in place.
But I encourage everyone, this just came out today too, Mike Lindell shows up in a Trump rally in Texas and promptly proceeds to undermine Ronald McDaniel's deprogramming tour this week.
By telling people not to vote early, to vote the day of the election.
So, you know, even them, you wonder what, you know, it's like, it was all over the news.
Mike Lindell is going to make the polling station so busy your lines are going to be long because he's saying vote day up.
And I'm telling every one of you out there, I've spent two years with cyber guys and things that I can't even imagine could even be happening to our country, of all these machines.
And I'm telling you, it's a lot harder for them to steal this election if we all vote same day.
Because then they can't take these names from the voter rolls.
Now in Wisconsin, are they already voting in Wisconsin, Janelle?
We start voting tomorrow.
Starts tomorrow.
Everybody, here's my advice.
If you get a mail-in ballot, If you have a mail-in ballot and you bring it with you when you're going to vote on November 8th, and if they say you've already voted, take that to your local sheriff.
You take it to the sheriff.
We're going to be watching this, Janelle, this election from every single camera angle known to man.
I'm telling you, every vote.
By the way, a few bad guys are watching out there, which they watch my show all the time.
A lot of them, it's their favorite show.
So if they're all watching, I'm telling you all, every vote in this country also goes through a monopoly called the Edison Report through New Jersey.
We're also watching that where you can see people don't realize that the cast vote records and that the order these votes come in and especially the, well not especially, but with Edison and the cast vote records.
Like with Edison, people have seen this right on TV where all of a sudden totals go in reverse.
Well, everybody, that's impossible.
That's called computer manipulation.
And they're all going to get caught.
I'm really looking forward to, you know, I think, well, one of the biggest things I'm looking for many of the races is actually Robin Voss.
I have a personal, personal deal with him, what he could have done to save the state of Wisconsin.
He lied to the state many, many times.
He had gave them and do that investigation.
Then he says, be careful what you find.
Robin, be careful what you find.
You did this, you ordered this investigation.
And then he found everything and his recommendation was to desurf.
Robin's words was, well, we feel a mass spread fraud, but I can't do anything.
My hands are tied.
You know what, Robin?
Yes, you could have.
And it's shameful.
What do the people in the state of Wisconsin think of Robin Voss?
I mean, how did he even win in the primary there?
And with Adam Steen, one of the things with him, isn't it true, Janelle?
They have to hand count those if people are writing his name in, correct?
That is correct.
Yeah, that'll be a good test, everybody, for the country.
That will be a perfect prototype for the country.
If they're not allowed to cheat, because they'll be hand-counted, and you go there and you put in Adam's name.
Now, that's only for part of Wisconsin, right?
His district?
Is that true?
Yes, that's for the 63rd Assembly District.
That's part of Racine and Burlington.
Okay.
I want to get to Wisconsin or I'm going to have Adam on my show.
I want to get to Wisconsin.
I was hoping the president, our real president, could get there and to Wisconsin to a rally, but I haven't heard anything lately.
And we pray that maybe he'll get there.
But otherwise, I got to get to Wisconsin.
You guys are amazing.
And we look forward to seeing you.
We look forward to this election.
We look forward to everything else.
Anything else you find, let me know and we'll have you on right away to report it.
Mike, I can almost guarantee we've had a lot of help from the clerks.
I think we're going to have a few more surprises before the election.
That is awesome.
Well, we want to put it out here first, so get a hold of me and we'll get it out there and keep up the great job you're doing.
You're absolutely amazing.
You and everyone else in Wisconsin helping you out.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, thanks.
Thank you, Janelle.
Appreciate it.
Janelle Branchen checking in.
Now we're joined, unless you want to play one more clip, Mike, and then we can go to Clinton.
Yeah, let's play one more clip, and then you've got, we'll have to tell everyone, assuming they don't know who Clinton is, and then we'll go from there.
Go ahead and play that clip from the corrupt Dominion.
Here we go, 60 minutes.
Why not just have paper ballots?
We do have paper ballots.
What the machines do is they count those paper ballots in a way that makes it very easy for people to verify after the fact through the means of audits and recounts.
Dominion makes two types of machines.
One is called a ballot marker.
It's a touchscreen device that a voter can use to mark their choices and then print the ballot.
The second machine is a scanner that reads that paper ballot, counts the vote, and immediately stores the ballot securely.
A voter takes a paper ballot.
They've made their marks, however they make their marks, depending on the jurisdiction.
As they deposit it into the ballot box, it goes through a digital scanner, and then drops into the ballot box.
So, how do you hack a paper ballot?
He showed us how it works.
This is the scanner that sits atop a locked and sealed ballot box.
This is how they cast their ballot.
It goes through a scanner, and now we have an image of the ballot that we just cast, and we have the paper ballot that is used for recounts.
John Pulo says it was watching the presidential recounts in Florida in 2000.
Alright, we'll stop it there because then he goes on to say this is how he came up with the idea of getting rid of this problem here.
But you want to comment on what he was saying?
Wait a minute, I'm not hearing Mike.
Are you guys hearing Mike?
What?
Okay, now we're hearing you.
Okay.
Brandon, you can bring on Clint in a minute, but Clint Curtis, everybody, he set the first algorithms back in the day.
He's a Democrat, voted for Biden.
This is who he is.
And he realized that we have to get rid of the machines.
And one of the things that was just said there was, oh, you can use them on a recount for audits.
The only problem is, here's what Clinton did at the Moment of Truth Summit.
I'll never forget it.
Brandon, I'll do it to you.
Pick a number, one or two.
Two.
No, it was one.
Okay?
Everybody, now wait.
I'll write it down.
I'll write it down.
Okay, I wrote it on my hand.
Pick a number, one or two.
One.
No, it was two, but I'm not going to let you see it.
You're just going to have to trust me.
Okay?
So with that, why don't we bring in Clinton and Why don't you introduce him, Brandon?
Who are you?
Yes, he came to the Moment of Truth conference and talked about how it was some Republicans that were asking him, could you write some software that could change and flip votes?
He actually did this and then shared with them what you need to do, if I remember the story correctly, what you need to do to stop this kind of software from being used to do this kind of thing.
Apparently it turns out that this kind of software was actually used.
Apparently the Republicans were doing this.
Clint is a, you know, a sub-admitted Democrat for many years.
And so, apparently the Republicans were doing this for a long time.
Maybe even in the second presidential election of George W. Bush.
Somewhere along the way, however, apparently the Democrats caught wind of this, as we see in the movie Kill Chain, Hacking Democracy, started screaming about it.
And now somewhere along the way, apparently this Uniparty was formed, and now they sit and decide which Republicans win, which Democrats win through their Uniparty.
Clint, welcome to the broadcast.
Thanks for joining us.
Do I have all that correct?
Essentially, that's it.
I wrote that thing back in 2000 and basically told them that if you use computers, you're always going to lose because the programmer has the universe.
Like that clip you just showed, right?
It prints your ballot.
Well, it can print anything you want because none of that's real.
It scans the ballot.
It scans whatever it's told to scan.
It doesn't care what's on the ballot.
It doesn't care what's in the scanner.
If you tell it to cheat, it will cheat.
Okay?
It doesn't have any morals.
It doesn't have any value.
It has no dog in the fight.
It just does what it's programmed to do.
As far as a ballot image, a ballot image is whatever I decide to make.
Nothing just happens in programming.
So as you're scanning through there, if I want to change your vote, I can change your vote and you will know nothing about it because There's no such thing as it just scanning through and you seeing it.
It's a matter of me reading the dots on the page and then trying to put them back into a JPEG or some sort of image file in the same order, or if I feel like it, in a different order.
Because you'll never see it and there's nothing you can do about it.
So the only way to make sure that you aren't going to be cheated by machines is to not use them.
Just don't use them at all.
Paper ballots counted by hand at the precinct and video the whole affair so everybody can know that their vote is what their vote is and that the election is valid.
All this rigmarole about how we hide everything, we hide them all from you, that's a waste of time.
You know, if they're hiding something, the question is why.
It's not that hard to count the ballots.
You count the ballots simply.
Here I got a question.
Clint, when you were up on that stage at the Moment of Truth Summit, and you and I had discussed it before, when all these other countries, back in the early 2000s, when you made the first algorithm to show this.
First of all, my question, you see the Dominion CEO last night on 60 Minutes telling Anderson Cooper, you can't hack these machines.
We have paper.
What do you say to that?
Was he lying or was he misconstruing?
What would you say to a guy like that?
I'd have to think that his degree is in accounting and not in computers.
Because either that or he's an idiot.
Because computers only do what you tell them to do.
And if you tell it you want the vote to be different, it will be different.
If someone moves in and hacks in either on purpose through them or through somebody else getting in through another channel, Russians, Chinese, whatever.
I saw a thing today about they're worried about Russians and Chinese trying to come in.
Well, of course they're trying to come in.
You know, these are other countries that have an interest in our elections.
Of course they're going to try and come in.
So if you have paper ballots counted by hand at the precinct, you cannot be hacked by the Chinese or the Russians.
There's not going to be a line of them trying to do that, okay?
But if you have a machine, it's always up in the air.
Last guy in wins.
If the Chinese hack it for number A and the Russians hack it for number B and the Russians were last, the Russians win, right?
And the people are not allowed to verify their elections ever.
So you can't check the paper, you will have to trust the machines, and that's why we don't
really have any faith in our democracy anymore. So Mike, Mike, you're muted.
What the Netherlands, after you realize that this your own system or your own algorithms that were
put in that they hacked in, realized they were used in these other elections. And then I use
and then you went very public with it and said, hey, we put this in as you as being used,
we got to get rid of these machines.
Did you tell me the Netherlands reached out to you?
And what did you tell them when they asked you how to make those machines secure?
So back in 2018, They were having their election.
The Russians had penetrated their system.
They didn't know how much, they didn't know how badly it had been penetrated, but they knew it was the Russians.
They might have been right, they might have been wrong, because everybody's going to fake that too.
So it could have been the British pretending to be the Russians, because you always mask those things.
But anyway, they thought it was the Russians trying to hack their machines.
They called me up and they said, what can we do to protect our machines so that no one can come in here and actually hack our elections?
And the answer I gave them was you throw those things in the ocean because they're worthless.
There is nothing you can do.
If you really want to stop it, you go to paper ballots, you hand count them, and the precincts.
Were the Netherlands, were they able to do that though after you gave them that advice?
Amazingly, within two months, that's the way they held their elections.
And they'll probably hold their elections for that from now on, unless somebody talks them into doing something stupid, because there's always going to be the bad guys pushing to get control.
So if they can talk them into it, they'll talk them into it.
But they actually did that, and they had a perfect election, and they got it decided in one night.
Everything was done.
Piece of cake.
So with that, let's play a clip, Mike, of the Dominion guy on 60 Minutes to let Clint respond to that, to him.
Is that OK?
All right.
All right, here we go.
Are your machines hooked up to the internet?
No, not by any stretch.
We go through a number of certifications, government certifications, and the first one is at a federal level.
So those standards mandate that election systems, such as ours, are designed to work in a closed system.
Air-gapped.
No internet.
In all the major swing states of 2020, there are paper ballots backing up... Not only are there paper ballots that make up the official record, those paper ballots have been hand-counted and audited over a thousand times on just the 2020 election.
Well, birth certification is a waste of time, as is your logic test.
If you're familiar with Volkswagen, They put out this little rabbit that was an amazing car because it ran on diesel, got great mileage, and it had great emissions.
It passed all the tests.
Turns out 11 million rabbits were produced by Volkswagen that actually knew when it was being tested and would run differently for the emissions control and differently when it wasn't being tested.
Computers know when they're being tested.
There are flags.
There are things to know.
They can simply know by the date.
They can know by the volume of things that are going on.
They can know by the way the guy pushes on the gas pedal.
The computer knows everything.
He is the universe.
And if you put the logic in there to actually pay attention to that, there is no logic test.
It can run perfectly for that and not perfectly for the other.
As far as internet, you know, they found internet can be hidden a thousand ways.
You know, you don't have to click on it and then connect, you know, via a password, yada, yada, yada, right?
The Internet can be hidden a million ways.
In fact, back in the old days, your Internet did not run wirelessly.
Your Internet ran when you plugged it in the wall and actually ran through the house wiring.
So, you can't really judge if there's Internet unless you watch them build the board.
And the best way to secure it is simply don't use it.
Don't use that machine because it can be hacked.
Everything can.
And if you have the unsinkable Titanic that day, next week it's going to the bottom of the ocean because someone will be trying to make it sink.
And that's simply the way it is.
So the machines are always going to be a problem.
I don't care how much they work on them.
It's just not going to happen.
No, Clinton, are you calling that CEO of Dominion, that guy last night, are you saying he's misconstrued?
Is he lying?
What would you say if you had to, I mean, the guy said right, they're doing this two weeks, three weeks before the election.
As you know, yourself, you've been fighting for two decades.
I've been fighting for a year and a half to get rid of these machines.
And here's a guy that should know his machines.
I'm lying.
We just found out in Wisconsin, they're sending their stuff to other IP addresses.
I mean, this just came out and you can't deny this.
I've had evidence for a year and a half.
Of course they're on the internet, one shape or another.
So what do you think?
Are they putting out more propaganda to the public?
Is that what you see happening last night?
It probably is.
It's probably just propaganda, because in reality, the CEO probably doesn't know, you know?
He doesn't build the pillow, right?
You don't build the pillow.
So someone stuck something in that pillow in production.
The difference is, yes, I did.
The difference is, I did build my pillow.
And now that you're bringing up pillows, I want to bring this up.
I, for the last year and a half, no, Clinton, you bring up a good point.
For the last year and a half, when you did that little test on me on stage and said, pick a number of one or two, I'll never forgot that.
And I said two and you said, no, it was one.
I said, let me see it.
You said, you can't see it.
What Dominion, ES&S, Smartmatic, all these machine companies have done in the United States and everywhere else in the world, it sounds like, is if somebody told me that there were rocks and knives in my pillow and they put it all out there being accusing me of it, I wouldn't just go through them.
I'd say, hey, quick, come over here and look at the beautiful patented fill.
I have nothing to hide.
But they don't do that.
They say, no, you can't look.
So, and the difference is I did make my pillows and this guy's up there, the CEO of Dominion.
I look at the track record.
If there was nothing to hide, the first day they would have said, hey, look inside our machines.
We have nothing to hide.
You taxpayers paid for our machines.
And there isn't a, tell us about this.
Is that they always say, oh, we're protecting our, our proprietary information, our source code.
Well, how hard was you to write those algorithms of 1-2-1-2?
Is this some high-tech source code they're hiding or what?
No, this is idiot programming because all you're doing is, if there is a vote for someone, what you should be doing is you should be taking the total of the votes that person had and adding one to it.
Adding one, that's it, and then getting a new total.
That should be the whole complete thing.
The source code I wrote that actually did the flip was 24 lines of code.
Because in mine you had those two buttons you had to pick which would actually let you select the winner and then it would side and flip the votes around.
It would change the logs.
It would change everything because I own the universe.
So when they said our logs are good, their logs are nothing.
The programmer produces the logs.
As far as the CEO, you may have made your pillows.
I'm pretty sure the CEO didn't program them and has no clue about security or programming or anything else in a computer nature.
Because usually geeks are not good CEOs and CEOs are not geeks.
So you have a slight disconnect.
Here's the next clip from the Dominion CEO for you guys to respond to.
Here we go.
In Georgia, there have been three recounts.
Two electronic ones and one hand recount.
In front of cameras, bipartisan poll watchers, and thousands of local residents across the state of Georgia.
And it once again reaffirmed the results.
That should have put an end to all of it.
But the lies persisted.
And so have incidents of harassment.
You guys want to respond to that, please?
Well, if they want to get rid of the end of the mistrust of the election system, they don't have to do a thousand recounts.
All they have to do is throw out the machines, have paper ballots hand-counted in the precinct, on video, and everyone would be happy.
But instead, they dig in and defend this hidden machine thing.
No one's going to trust the recounts after the fact.
In 2004, Uh, in Ohio, they were doing a recount because it was close enough, there was a mandate to recount.
So what occurred, and you can't say this occurs every time, but what occurred there is that about a dozen in the supervisor elections office, who would get in trouble if it didn't match, took the time the night before to select the ballots and make sure they all matched.
So people are not going to trust that.
They're just not.
You've got to do it right up front.
Otherwise, they see you carrying in ballots that don't have seals.
They see a lack of chain of custody here or there.
If you want trust in elections, you've got to be up front with people at the beginning.
You can't say, oh, we had a bunch of tests, and so now it's good.
And even if it's good that time, doesn't mean it's going to be good the next time.
In that little game we played, One and two.
When you said one and I said you're wrong, I could have been correct.
It could have been two.
But you're never going to be able to trust that, are you?
Because I won't show you.
I'm going to hide the results.
I'm going to have, you know, recounts after the fact where there's all sorts of problems.
You know, Natural problems or other problems, but there's no need to really do any of that if we just had the system set up so people could trust it from the beginning.
Otherwise, it's not going to happen.
Wait, hey, Clint, too, I want to say this, and I've said this on the show, you know, we both, you know, you created an algorithm back in the day where you could steal an election, and it was a very simple back then.
Well, Now, I have said, let's just say that there'd be no cheating, but one mistake in a computer can cost, you take off a zero and it can go bing bing, where you would have to have thousands of people make an error rather than one person or one machine make an error.
For example, in Georgia, this actually happened.
This lady got 4,000 some votes and she wasn't even on the ballot.
She had dropped off two months prior.
Now, in Georgia, that was called a programming error by, I believe, the Secretary of State, Crooked Brad.
I can say that because you don't mind.
He's a Republican, right?
Can I say that?
But anyway, and he called it a programming error.
So let's say, how does a person get on there when it's a programming error and they weren't even supposed to be on the ballot and they weren't a write-in So that means that they were programming illegally because that's the only way you would physically type in a name.
And things like this come up, but yet the Republicans in Georgia, they don't want to show their own races.
I mean, this compounds the problem.
And I know you've been up against For decades, or for a couple decades, and you told me straight out the Democrats wanted these machines gone, but you couldn't get the Republicans to do it.
I was just told today, just today, by I believe it was Bloomberg, Bloomberg called me up and they're doing this hit job, of course.
But they said, well, Mike, it was on cast, talking about cast vote records.
And they said, well, we've heard the Republicans are blocking you getting them more than the Democrats.
I said, absolutely!
Because for some reason, now with that, to me, it's a unit party.
That's because you can't have, you have both parties in some places blocking.
Anytime you bring up to get rid of the machines or change something, they, you know, right now it seems like both sides, I know you went through this.
Does it surprise you that, um, that is it harder for you now when you talk to Democrats?
Are they still open to it now that they're on the side of what people, many people believe was a fixed game.
And they also, and I'll, I'll even add on to that.
Bloomberg also asked me, they said, well, Mike, um, the, um, what do you think happened in 2016?
And you know what I told him, Clint?
I said, after talking to Clint Curtis, who's a Democrat, voted for Biden. He did the first
algorithms back in the early 2000s.
I said, I would not put everything I had on any election from that point on. Not one,
because I wouldn't bet everything I had, because you don't know, do you? There's doubt there.
You don't know. In fact, it's unlikely that things haven't been tweaked.
It's so bad.
I mean, it's so open to manipulation, the way it's set up, that if it isn't being used, it would be crazy.
I mean, you're talking about all kinds of power, all kinds of money, all kinds of policy, and yet these, you know, higher than You know, these above the rest people at these voting machine companies don't take that advantage and use it in any way.
I mean, that would seem odd in and of itself, wouldn't it?
So it's just crazy.
You know, the Democrats are still available to come around.
Right now they're on this whole kick of calling everybody an election denier because, you know, they don't think the 2020 is valid.
Well, We were deniers prior to that.
So I don't think pushing for an election being correct or not is the right process.
I think we have to push for none of the elections are actually without a little bit of suspect.
And what we need to do is to make sure that it doesn't happen again.
Because then the candidates like a Bernie Sanders or a Donald Trump or someone who's not part of the inner circle, You're exactly right, Clint, and we've got to get this country united.
The people, the politicians, get them united to get rid of these machines so we can have elections and not selections.
And you know, I think I have a better idea than you did what you told the Netherlands to throw those machines in the ocean.
I'd like to recycle them into prison bars, but that's just I've got one more clip here.
I think one more for you guys to respond to.
Here we go.
In the 2020 election.
He called it the most secure election in American history and days later it was fired by President Trump.
He now has a cyber consulting firm and is a contributor for CBS News.
We showed him a press conference held two days after his firing at the headquarters of the Republican National Committee, when Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell and others continued their attacks on Dominion machines and software.
It can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President Biden.
Do you remember watching that?
Yeah, I tweeted about it immediately afterwards.
I think I said something along the lines of that was the most insane and dangerous 45 minutes of TV in, you know, American history, effectively.
True or false?
Apparently he believes what he's told and doesn't think beyond that.
Because if he knows anything about computers, he knows that they can be made to do anything they want to do.
And they're still addressing the topic incorrectly.
They're looking at it.
Did the election get hacked?
How did this happen?
The point is, people don't believe it.
And whether their machines are perfect, which we know they aren't, but let's say they were, or whether they're not, people don't trust them.
And until you get people to trust them, And to know that they can verify that election, we don't have a democracy, we just have a mess.
This guy went on... I want to ask Clint, you've been fighting to get rid of the machines with the Democrats on your side basically for about two decades now.
Were you ever, this is a big question, were you attacked by the left media?
Were you attacked every day?
Were you canceled as a lawyer?
Were you attacked and attacked and your family attacked?
Were your neighbors attacked?
Was your second grade teacher attacked?
Or was it okay, because on the left there, they were okay with you sounding the alarm, where now, for some reason, today, everybody is a conspiracy theorist.
You know, for some reason, me wanting to get rid of the machines, you know, I'm just a person that somehow changed.
On January 9th, when I got evidence in 2021 of this massive machine thing that explained people voting that were passed away, or people voting that Didn't live in this state.
And that's a question for you.
And if the answer is no, you've never seen anything like the attacks on myself and many others, even some you've just seen there, Cindy, Paul, Rudy, anyone that ever mentioned anything.
Is there a reason you think that that is, that we're being attacked where you were sounding the alarm and maybe you weren't as much?
The attacks were there, mostly ignoring and just saying, oh, well, we don't care.
It doesn't really matter.
And we had other, we had other people actually getting involved and trying to get it to go forward.
And, but basically at that time it was Republicans that said, you know, we don't care.
We believe the machines, everything's great.
I think your attacks are more severe because you are more successful at it because you are making a bigger difference and making a bigger ripple.
And so they're having to fight back a little bit more.
But essentially, the attacks were there.
I did press conferences and things, and I spoke at rallies, and when I would go, the mainstream media, the ABCs, the NBCs, not only would they not put it on, the cameras actually would go down, and the cameramen would leave the room.
That's interesting, right.
Well, that's good.
And not that it's not good to hear, I was just curious, and I think part of it is just to, Glenn, I'm going to say as part of this, Yes.
People are losing.
They've lost them, especially the media.
They keep saying, you know, this goes back to the president, Donald Trump, you know, that they think everything's going to put him back in right now.
Right.
And I think what you're going to see after these midterms, in a way, they know they're going to get caught again with these machines somewhere, somehow.
We have cameras from every angle.
And I believe this time that when it's exposed, I believe it's going to be a lot easier to get rid of them because I think it'll kind of be a unification thing.
You're going to have Democrats down in Georgia that get cheated.
You're going to have Republicans up in Right, right.
Yeah, just work on what we can agree on.
Work on those stuff later.
Don't worry about it.
to point back to these machines, no matter who was manipulating them, doesn't matter at this point.
I really believe we, you just got to get rid of them. You can figure that stuff out later, right?
Do you agree? Right, right. Yeah, just work on what we can agree on, work on those stuff later.
Don't worry about it. But I don't know if all the camera angles and everything is going to help
too much, because once again, it all happens in less than a blink of an eye, inside of a program,
inside of a computer.
Once it's in there, it's hard to get it out.
Well, we're never going to give up, just like you've never given up.
And you and I are going to get through this election.
I told you I'm going to have more time.
You and I can go right into Congress and try and get these guys united to get rid of these machines.
I don't care who has control of the House and Senate.
I think we've got to bring it to them and say, hey, you guys want elections or do you want selections?
So Clint, closing question.
You mentioned the narrative being laid down by the Biden administration today about potential hacking from foreign countries.
Why are they doing that narrative right now?
Are they afraid the people are going to overrun the algorithm by showing up on election day as Mike Lindell's been telling them to do?
And they thus need to say, oh, we were hacked by a foreign country.
We can't validate these elections.
What's the narrative they're laying?
Who knows?
Who knows?
But, um, but I don't know that, like, Biden would have actually been in control of moving a computer program anywhere during his election.
I think it's more, in my thought pattern, it seems more of a someone else is making these selections so that they can determine who is in power and basically keeping it kind of always at each other's throats so nothing moves forward.
So, I mean, I can't be sure.
Just speculation.
It doesn't seem like there's a lot of difference in the parties other than they just want to fight with each other and never do anything.
Clint Curtis, thank you so much for being with us.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
Thanks, Clint.
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