The Megyn Kelly Show - Daring Rescue Mission, Trump's MAJOR Warning to Iran, and a Very Special Makeover, with Emily Jashinsky  |  Ep. 1289
Aired: 2026-04-06
Duration: 01:43:42


=== Parishioner Drama and Knees (08:30) ===

[00:00:15]  Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Channel 111 every weekday at noon East.
[00:00:27]  Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly.
[00:00:28]  Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show.
[00:00:30]  Oh, we have a lot, a lot, a lot to bring to you today.
[00:00:33]  What a variety, too.
[00:00:34]  First of all, I hope everyone had a wonderful and relaxing Easter Sunday and belated happy Passover to our Jewish friends.
[00:00:41]  Can I tell you something crazy happened in our family at Easter Mass yesterday?
[00:00:47]  We went, the five of us, and we went to the 9 a.m. Mass and we got there early because we knew that it would be, you know, the.
[00:00:58]  You know, there are a lot of people, a lot of Catholics only go on Christmas and Easter.
[00:01:02]  We are not five of them, we go every week, but we knew that it was going to be extra crowded.
[00:01:06]  So we got there about 15 minutes in advance.
[00:01:09]  I thought that was going to be enough to get a seat.
[00:01:11]  Wrong, wrong.
[00:01:12]  We did not get a seat, even though we were 15 minutes early, which seems like a lot to me.
[00:01:16]  Anyway, we didn't get a seat.
[00:01:18]  So we wound up standing in the aisle, which was toward the front of the church.
[00:01:23]  We didn't stand in the way back because, you know, we were close enough that we were almost seated.
[00:01:28]  Anyway, So, the five of us were lined up along the side of the church wall, right by a window and to the side of the pews and to the other parishioners.
[00:01:39]  And we made it all the way through to the homily.
[00:01:44]  And during the homily, the way we were standing, it was Yates, our eldest, who's 16, next to him, Doug, next to him, Thatcher, who's 12, then me, then Yardley behind me as you're looking at the front of the church.
[00:02:01]  And as we get to the homily, the priest was giving a very nice homily.
[00:02:06]  It was, of course, obviously, it was about the resurrection, but it was more than that.
[00:02:10]  It was like apologetics.
[00:02:12]  It was all about the proof.
[00:02:14]  How do we know Jesus was resurrected?
[00:02:16]  What is the actual hardcore proof of it?
[00:02:19]  And as you may know, because you listen to this show, I've been very, very into that ever since Charlie died.
[00:02:24]  And I've been reading everything I can get my hands on to educate me on it.
[00:02:30]  And so I was like, oh, this is right in my wheelhouse.
[00:02:33]  I was very into it.
[00:02:34]  And in the middle of the homily, my daughter Yardley, who's 14 for another week or so, said, Mom, tell Thatcher and Yates to bend their knees.
[00:02:43]  And I didn't know what she was saying that for.
[00:02:44]  I figured, you know, like just to stay comfortable or whatever.
[00:02:47]  But I was like, honey, listen to this.
[00:02:49]  This is important, right?
[00:02:50]  Because it was right in the middle of the homily.
[00:02:53]  Well, within like a minute or so, the priest ended the homily, and Thatcher, who's right in front of me, my 12 year old, turns around and said, Mom, I feel nauseous.
[00:03:04]  I'm like, Uh oh.
[00:03:06]  So I'm like, Okay, let's go outside.
[00:03:10]  So I told my husband and my older two, We're going to step outside for a bit.
[00:03:15]  So we start walking down a very crowded aisle.
[00:03:18]  You know how it is on Easter?
[00:03:19]  It's like people on, like completely crowded.
[00:03:21]  But anyway, we're making our way, and he's going really slowly.
[00:03:24]  He's walking right in front of me.
[00:03:25]  I have my hands on his shoulder.
[00:03:27]  And I go, honey, do you think we can go a little faster?
[00:03:32]  Because I'm worried he's going to throw up in the middle of the aisle.
[00:03:36]  And he didn't respond.
[00:03:40]  So I kind of peeked around to look at his face, and he did not look good.
[00:03:44]  He looked ashen.
[00:03:45]  I was like, oh no.
[00:03:46]  And just as I'm realizing he doesn't look good, he starts to go down.
[00:03:51]  He goes down.
[00:03:52]  I'm like, oh my God.
[00:03:53]  So he kind of crumbled almost, it was like a slow mo faint.
[00:03:57]  Crumbling forward.
[00:03:59]  I grabbed him.
[00:04:00]  There was a nice man at the end of the pew who kind of reached out and helped grab him so that he didn't have a hard fall.
[00:04:06]  And then we laid him down to where I had his head.
[00:04:11]  And one of the parishioners was like, put his feet up.
[00:04:14]  By this point, Doug and my other two had run over.
[00:04:16]  And so Doug got his feet up.
[00:04:18]  I took off my jacket, put it under his head.
[00:04:21]  And now you're just kind of waiting for him to come back.
[00:04:25]  He was gone.
[00:04:26]  Not gone, gone.
[00:04:27]  I just mean he was clearly unconscious and it was obvious he had fainted.
[00:04:31]  And now you just have the waiting game of like, what's going to happen next?
[00:04:39]  Everyone in the church was so sweet.
[00:04:42]  People were like, here's some water.
[00:04:43]  Do you want us to call a doctor?
[00:04:44]  I'm like, I think he's going to be okay.
[00:04:46]  You could tell, like, he was breathing and he was able to move.
[00:04:50]  He was just unconscious, or I guess I think you do call it unconscious when you've fainted.
[00:04:55]  And sure enough, he opened his eyes back after, I don't know, a minute roughly.
[00:05:01]  And then he slowly kind of sat up.
[00:05:04]  And I. I'm not, as soon as I realized he totally was okay and it was a fake, I'm not, it took everything in me not to cry out, he is risen.
[00:05:16]  I didn't do it like this.
[00:05:18]  That's inappropriate.
[00:05:19]  We've already been disruptive enough.
[00:05:21]  But it occurred to me.
[00:05:25]  Anyway, we got him up and we walked him out.
[00:05:28]  And can I tell you, he was like fine.
[00:05:30]  As soon as we left the mass, like he got some fresh air.
[00:05:34]  He, his obviously his vasovagal situation resolved.
[00:05:38]  And my husband, Joe, because we go between two different churches, and my husband's like, we can still make the 945.
[00:05:46]  Of course, my kids' eyes are like, what?
[00:05:49]  We did not.
[00:05:49]  So we did not.
[00:05:50]  I don't think we technically fulfilled our Sunday obligation because we did not get communion, but we had a good reason.
[00:05:56]  I think God understood.
[00:05:58]  And then today, okay, so then my daughter was like, Mom, you should have told him to bend his knees like I told you.
[00:06:07]  I'm like, What?
[00:06:08]  That was about not fainting.
[00:06:11]  And now in the past 24 hours, I have learned so many parents have had this happen with their kids in this exact way.
[00:06:19]  Or it often happens, I guess, at choirs, like chorus performances where kids are standing for a long time.
[00:06:26]  And my daughter Yardley had heard this from her middle school principal, who told them a story about a girl passing out while on the choir roster on the top riser and she got hurt.
[00:06:37]  Now she always reminds the girls bend your knees when you're standing up straight for a long time.
[00:06:41]  And I just asked online AI this morning is it common for kids to pass out when standing for a long time with locked knees?
[00:06:48]  Answer yes, it's actually pretty common, especially in kids and teenagers.
[00:06:52]  What you're describing is a classic setup for a brief fainting episode called vasovagal syncope.
[00:06:58]  Syncope?
[00:06:59]  Syncope?
[00:06:59]  Why it happens.
[00:07:00]  When someone stands for a long time, locks their knees, and doesn't shift their weight or move, it reduces the normal muscle pumping action in the legs that helps blood return to the heart.
[00:07:09]  This can lead to blood pooling in the legs, a temporary drop in blood pressure, reduced blood flow to the brain, and fainting.
[00:07:16]  Kids and teens are especially prone because their nervous systems are a bit more reactive and they may not recognize the early warning.
[00:07:25]  Signs.
[00:07:25]  Then they say it shows up a lot during school assemblies, choir or performances, ceremonies like graduations, parades, church services, standing information like scouts or ROTC.
[00:07:36]  Warning signs most kids feel something first, like dizziness, lightheadedness, nausea, sweating, tunnel vision, which he also told me later that he had ringing in the ears.
[00:07:46]  So, in any event, he was fine.
[00:07:48]  They say that prevention is lock your knees, just like Yardley said, keep a slight bend, shift your weight.
[00:07:55]  Or subtly move your legs, stay hydrated, and eat beforehand.
[00:07:59]  Indeed, he had skipped breakfast yesterday morning.
[00:08:02]  So, what a crazy situation.
[00:08:05]  Good to know for us and for other parents out there and for kids.
[00:08:10]  My daughter was right.
[00:08:11]  Lock your knees.
[00:08:12]  What the priest was saying was important, but as it so happened this particular Sunday morning, what my daughter was saying to me was more important for my particular family.
[00:08:21]  And I wish I had listened.
[00:08:23]  So, anyway, there was our drama.
[00:08:25]  He was fine.
[00:08:26]  And, uh, We had a very nice Easter, spent it together, the five of us, just as any ideal for me is.
[00:08:33]  So, anyway, lots of love to you and yours.
[00:08:35]  And there you go news you can use.
[00:08:37]  There is a lot of other news this morning, moving fast and furiously on this very busy Monday around Iran and other subjects.

=== The Open Strait Rescue (02:35) ===

[00:08:46]  President Trump has set an 8 p.m. Eastern deadline tomorrow evening for the Iranians to open up the Strait of Hormuz.
[00:08:54]  Of course, this is like less than a week after he said, We're just going to leave and they're going to open up the strait.
[00:09:01]  It's going to happen naturally.
[00:09:02]  Like, we don't care about the strait.
[00:09:03]  But I guess we do care about it because now we're saying that deadline he set a while ago of like 10 days to open the strait still holds, even though we said last week kind of it doesn't.
[00:09:15]  Anyway, I guess it does hold.
[00:09:17]  And the president saying if they do not open the strait, the president will target Iran's bridges and energy plants.
[00:09:25]  And you may have heard he issued that warning in a very Trumpian way, as he put it on Truth Social on Easter morning: open the fucking straight, you crazy bastards.
[00:09:37]  That's F-U-C-K-I-N with an apostrophe at the end, or you'll be living in hell.
[00:09:42]  Just watch.
[00:09:43]  Praise be to Allah, unquote.
[00:09:46]  Okay, that's real.
[00:09:48]  I actually texted my team: is this real?
[00:09:50]  It's real that that did come from Trump.
[00:09:52]  You're going to want to stay tuned to our entire show because in the next hour, Mr. Trump is expected to hold a press conference, which will likely include details of the dramatic rescue.
[00:10:02]  Thank God we left on Friday with the one pilot not having been found.
[00:10:07]  They found him, thank God, and he's okay.
[00:10:11]  And the rescue appears made for a movie.
[00:10:16]  It's like a seriously dramatic situation.
[00:10:19]  He was a weapons systems officer, and his plane was shot down deep into enemy territory in Iran on Friday.
[00:10:28]  By the time we went to air, then we had the pilot, but we didn't have this guy.
[00:10:32]  And now we do.
[00:10:33]  Trump says he has some minor injuries, but he's going to be just fine.
[00:10:36]  You're going to want to hear about this rescue.
[00:10:38]  No matter how you feel about the war, just hats off to the amazing efforts of our military to retrieve our guys.
[00:10:47]  And what we know so far is that it involved a dramatic SEAL Team 6 nighttime op, along with a CIA deception campaign.
[00:10:56]  I mean, those SEAL Team 6 guys.
[00:10:59]  These are just badasses.
[00:11:00]  Like those guys, the Green Berets, the Rangers.
[00:11:04]  It's just next level.
[00:11:05]  It's very impressive.
[00:11:07]  First, though, okay, first, we started on something dramatic in my family.
[00:11:11]  We teased what we're going to get to that's dramatic in Iran.
[00:11:14]  And now we've got something kind of fun.
[00:11:17]  And there's a reason we have to start the show with it.
[00:11:19]  It's going to become apparent to you in a minute.

=== Finding Your Aha Moment (15:05) ===

[00:11:22]  It's something about our good friend, Emily Jashinsky, who is here with me in the Red Studio.
[00:11:28]  She's outside the studio.
[00:11:29]  I don't see her yet, but she's going to be coming out on set in a minute.
[00:11:33]  Now, Emily is host of After Party, which is her own show on the MK Media Podcast Network.
[00:11:39]  You can Watch it live every Monday and Wednesday at 9 p.m., or you can catch it as a pod after the fact they post it.
[00:11:44]  She also hosts the MK Wrap Up Show that comes on right after our show does on SiriusXM Channel 111.
[00:11:51]  Well, recently we decided it might be fun to do something for maybe some contributors to the show and possibly some viewers.
[00:12:04]  And we asked Emily if she would be our guinea pig.
[00:12:09]  And she is so sweet to me.
[00:12:11]  She was like, I'll do it.
[00:12:12]  And then behind the scenes, she told the team, Oh my God, I'm very uncomfortable with this.
[00:12:18]  But she did it because she's such a great team player.
[00:12:21]  And here's what we did we decided to hook her up with the very same team that's responsible for much of my look each day.
[00:12:32]  I should state for the record, I am not wearing a Molly look today.
[00:12:36]  I'm wearing a little leather jacket.
[00:12:38]  Sure, she'd be fine with it, but she did not, just for the record, put this particular thing together.
[00:12:42]  But I got together the woman who's been doing my styling now for many, many years, Molly Cohen, and my dear friend and hairstylist, Sarah Clemente, who does hair and makeup, though I do my own makeup.
[00:12:57]  And I put, we put Emily Jashinsky through this glam team's professional skills.
[00:13:06]  And we documented the whole thing.
[00:13:08]  You're going to see her, I don't know if we'd call it a makeover so much as a, like a sprucing, a zhuzhing maybe.
[00:13:15]  She didn't need a makeover.
[00:13:16]  She was stunning then.
[00:13:17]  She's stunning now.
[00:13:18]  But we documented the whole thing.
[00:13:20]  And we'll see the big reveal in a minute.
[00:13:23]  Watch this.
[00:13:27]  And be like, I look good.
[00:13:29]  That's kind of our job, finding that aha moment where we make someone feel like themselves in the best way.
[00:13:36]  Some people are like, oh, I don't care.
[00:13:38]  You're lying.
[00:13:38]  You absolutely care.
[00:13:40]  No one wants to feel like shit.
[00:13:43]  My name is Molly Cohen.
[00:13:44]  I'm a stylist.
[00:13:45]  My name is Sarah Clemente.
[00:13:47]  I'm Megan's hairstylist.
[00:13:48]  Been working with Megan for almost eight years.
[00:13:51]  About six years.
[00:13:53]  Traveling on the go, doing her hair on a plane, in a car.
[00:13:59]  The number one priority today, Link.
[00:14:02]  Making sure that everyone's hair looks absolutely flawless, even at Zero G. We've really defined Megan's look.
[00:14:11]  Very effortless.
[00:14:12]  A little sex appeal.
[00:14:14]  Let's hope the absence of double sided tape doesn't come back to haunt me.
[00:14:17]  And then also very serious and professional.
[00:14:21]  We kind of love walking that fine line.
[00:14:24]  Not me, obviously, before my time.
[00:14:27]  Oh, this one.
[00:14:28]  Whatever you do, don't do this.
[00:14:31]  No, I just do what Molly tells me.
[00:14:34]  Oh.
[00:14:35]  Look how far we've come.
[00:14:36]  The school says they're going to be out of luck.
[00:14:38]  New York Times reporter Judith Miller says she went from being conservative, two big things happening up top, you know, to having more fun with it.
[00:14:47]  Sexier, yeah.
[00:14:49]  What a crazy week in news it has been.
[00:14:50]  Choice said you can make anybody hot.
[00:14:52]  She always says that.
[00:14:54]  I love that, yeah.
[00:14:55]  Is that true?
[00:14:56]  I think so.
[00:14:57]  And I'm telling you, if you fall in Sarah's good graces, she can make you look like me in like two months.
[00:15:03]  Wow.
[00:15:05]  I think that we're going to see a different side of Emily.
[00:15:09]  Emily has. full potential.
[00:15:10]  Ready for this?
[00:15:11]  It is about the most uncomfortable thing you could ever ask me to endure.
[00:15:17]  Welcome to that closet everyone.
[00:15:19]  Not a big hair makeup clothes person as people may know.
[00:15:23]  I look denim, denim.
[00:15:25]  I'm actually even wearing a version of this shirt.
[00:15:28]  This, I don't even know what to say.
[00:15:31]  I don't like having to dress up.
[00:15:33]  Hey friends, well.
[00:15:34]  You usually get away with jeans on the bottom because only your upper body is on the camera.
[00:15:39]  How would you describe your personal style?
[00:15:41]  I reject the question.
[00:15:45]  I don't know if anyone remembers the cartoon Doug from the 90s where he goes to his closet and it's like 20 different versions of the exact same outfit.
[00:15:54]  But as a child, I watched that and I was like, that is the dream.
[00:15:57]  I'm into feeling even more confident and about hair, makeup, and clothes and all that because it's tough.
[00:16:06]  It's tough, especially when you don't have a lot of professional help.
[00:16:09]  Is anything off limits?
[00:16:14]  Just a little bit goes a long way.
[00:16:15]  I'm like, that's what we are doing for her.
[00:16:18]  It's a little bit.
[00:16:20]  She's gonna warm up to it.
[00:16:22]  Watch.
[00:16:23]  So, we got on Zoom two or three weeks ago just to get an idea of what we're allowed to do, her vibe.
[00:16:30]  I was such a hardcore tomboy.
[00:16:32]  Like, growing up, I just was hardcore.
[00:16:34]  So, I never really learned how to do a lot of that type of thing.
[00:16:38]  Like, I don't have my ears pierced.
[00:16:40]  I've never painted my nails once in my life.
[00:16:42]  I don't particularly want to.
[00:16:44]  Is there any, like, Person that you watch or follow that whose style inspires you, someone that you just like pause on.
[00:16:52]  Jennifer Aniston in The Morning Show.
[00:16:54]  Oh, I love that.
[00:16:56]  I am unprecedented.
[00:16:58]  Simple and like elegant.
[00:17:00]  She looks good in anything.
[00:17:02]  I think that you're way more girly than you think you are.
[00:17:10]  Today, I think we're just gonna kind of guide her to put the pieces together and how to do it.
[00:17:16]  The essentials, like you have a good.
[00:17:18]  Base and then you just kind of build off of that base.
[00:17:22]  Very exciting when she said that she's okay with extensions.
[00:17:26]  Rub it all over you.
[00:17:28]  I got makeup for her that I think she'll be able to do herself.
[00:17:32]  We're gonna work off what she already has.
[00:17:34]  I just want it to be easy for her.
[00:17:37]  Like, you could be a sexy tomboy.
[00:17:39]  Wow, amazing.
[00:17:43]  As we both kind of saw it, you saw it too.
[00:17:45]  When she started trying on the clothes, at first she was like, ugh.
[00:17:50]  I'm absolutely nervous.
[00:17:52]  This has to be one of my feats.
[00:17:53]  And then she started liking it.
[00:17:55]  Slowly, confidence is building.
[00:17:59]  That's very good.
[00:18:00]  She likes it.
[00:18:01]  Oh.
[00:18:03]  Helps everything.
[00:18:04]  If you're confident, you're thriving.
[00:18:06]  I want her to look at herself and smile and be like, I actually like the way I look right now.
[00:18:10]  I so wish I could put a tiny earring there.
[00:18:14]  Do you want me to pierce it?
[00:18:17]  I tried piercing her ear.
[00:18:19]  She said no.
[00:18:20]  You know, I have a gun at home.
[00:18:21]  I'll just.
[00:18:22]  I'll do it.
[00:18:23]  What kind of good?
[00:18:25]  From how we first met her to today, transformation.
[00:18:30]  Attitude and all.
[00:18:31]  She's giving full girly vibes right now.
[00:18:34]  That gives it a little edge, you know?
[00:18:36]  Yeah, no, I like it.
[00:18:38]  Thoughts?
[00:18:38]  I don't love the top.
[00:18:40]  She is now like kind of a diva.
[00:18:42]  That is not true.
[00:18:44]  This is the process of being like, I don't like that.
[00:18:46]  Yes, I like that.
[00:18:47]  I really like this.
[00:18:48]  So this is how it starts.
[00:18:51]  We are doing this my way.
[00:18:55]  I did not kill either of you and I didn't even hit you.
[00:18:58]  I think the confidence is what Megan will be most excited about.
[00:19:01]  She's laughing, she's having fun, she's comfortable and I think Megan will see it instantly.
[00:19:06]  Need to pick a look for the big reveal.
[00:19:08]  Okay, can't wait to see.
[00:19:11]  This one's definitely my favorite.
[00:19:15]  Oh my god, I think Megan will lose it.
[00:19:21]  Okay, so I haven't seen the final product, like the made over Emily, but she's here and she's been getting her hair done and she's coming in now.
[00:19:30]  So let's bring her in.
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[00:20:39]  She joins me now for the big reveal.
[00:20:41]  Oh, my God, look at this sophisticated beauty.
[00:20:45]  Hi, Megan.
[00:20:46]  Hi, plug myself in.
[00:20:47]  Yeah, plug yourself in.
[00:20:48]  Oh, my God.
[00:20:49]  So, first of all, you look so good.
[00:20:51]  Look at the waves.
[00:20:52]  Thank you.
[00:20:53]  Beach waves.
[00:20:53]  I mean, Sarah's an artist.
[00:20:55]  She's amazing.
[00:20:56]  She's amazing.
[00:20:57]  You are such a good sport.
[00:20:59]  I was happy to do it.
[00:21:00]  No, I wasn't.
[00:21:01]  You look incredible.
[00:21:02]  For the listening audience, she's got this great, like, sky blue suit on, I would say, with, like, a white tank underneath.
[00:21:09]  Yeah.
[00:21:11]  A beautiful diamond necklace.
[00:21:13]  And she's got the beach combie.
[00:21:14]  Here, look at it.
[00:21:15]  Yeah.
[00:21:16]  Yeah.
[00:21:16]  Now they can see you.
[00:21:17]  Oh, my God.
[00:21:17]  She looks so pretty in your makeup.
[00:21:19]  Oh, again, Sarah is amazing.
[00:21:21]  But it's nice.
[00:21:22]  It's not overdone.
[00:21:23]  Yeah.
[00:21:23]  Right.
[00:21:23]  I like it.
[00:21:24]  Yeah.
[00:21:24]  And actually, she helped me get to a point where I can almost do it myself.
[00:21:28]  Is that right?
[00:21:29]  Okay.
[00:21:29]  And she put a couple of fake.
[00:21:32]  Hair pieces in there.
[00:21:33]  I am wearing the hair of some Eastern European woman, in all likelihood.
[00:21:38]  Most of it's mine, but not all of it.
[00:21:40]  So you think.
[00:21:41]  You never know quite where it came from.
[00:21:42]  Yes, that's a good point.
[00:21:43]  Yeah.
[00:21:43]  I mean, I don't know.
[00:21:45]  If it's like, you know how they say if you take like an organ from somebody, you might take on some of their characteristics?
[00:21:50]  Don't tell me that.
[00:21:52]  It might be yours.
[00:21:53]  Have you been feeling like especially like bossy, like a German or?
[00:21:57]  I haven't, but now I might.
[00:21:59]  You said it.
[00:22:00]  It's going to get in my head.
[00:22:01]  That hasn't really happened to me.
[00:22:03]  And I've got a bunch of other people's hair in my head too.
[00:22:05]  Once you get with Sarah, it's funny because she did my hair.
[00:22:08]  As she said, for many years.
[00:22:09]  And when she first started, she was like, Why don't we put a couple pieces in there?
[00:22:12]  We'll just do a couple.
[00:22:13]  And she lures you in.
[00:22:14]  And then before you know it, she's gotten you like full, like as a friend of mine calls it, full bombshell with the long hair a lot.
[00:22:21]  But I do love it.
[00:22:22]  It does make you feel so good.
[00:22:23]  Well, thank you.
[00:22:24]  Yeah.
[00:22:24]  Sarah's amazing.
[00:22:25]  Molly is amazing.
[00:22:26]  The whole team here is people, if people have never been behind the scenes, which most haven't, they just miss that part of it.
[00:22:32]  Yeah.
[00:22:32]  It's so much fun to be with the team.
[00:22:34]  Talk to me about what it felt like to go through the wardrobe situation because I love, for the listening audience, when Emily showed us her closet, literally always saw, Was the same denim button down.
[00:22:44]  I wore it today.
[00:22:45]  It's upstairs.
[00:22:46]  It's like 10 different versions of it, but it's literally just like light denim, dark denim, light denim, dark denim, like Doug, like not my Doug, but the Doug in the cartoon featured there.
[00:22:57]  So, what was it like for you looking at this whole other realm of possibilities based on the Jennifer Aniston character?
[00:23:05]  You know, I hated every second of it, Megan.
[00:23:07]  Yeah.
[00:23:07]  But it's fine.
[00:23:08]  I mean, it's got like, it's a part of journalism and broadcast is just you have to.
[00:23:14]  Look like you have it together.
[00:23:16]  And you can't look like a crazy person.
[00:23:19]  You have to look like you're organized and together and professional.
[00:23:21]  And so it's something that sooner rather than later you have to take care of and you have to do a good job with it.
[00:23:26]  So it was important and they made it so, like, it could have been so much worse.
[00:23:30]  They made it so much fun.
[00:23:31]  Well, and you know what I have found?
[00:23:32]  Of course, obviously I pay them for their services, but I think they wind up paying for themselves because believe it or not, like you, I was also a tomboy growing up.
[00:23:41]  My favorite picture of myself is of me in a tire swing where you cannot tell if I'm a boy or a girl.
[00:23:46]  I have boy hair at my own request, by the way.
[00:23:49]  I wanted that haircut.
[00:23:50]  And I also am not very good at fashion when left to my own devices.
[00:23:55]  Like, I can, as you pointed out, that thing, like I can do the top.
[00:23:58]  Like, this is not a Molly top, as I pointed out.
[00:24:00]  But by the way, it's by Commando for those of you who like this little leather top, which is very cute, I think.
[00:24:05]  But I put myself in Molly's good hands and she can pull together all these beautiful outfits.
[00:24:10]  Sometimes I wear them on the show, but I always wear Molly clothes when I'm like, At a public appearance, you know?
[00:24:16]  Because if you don't have that gift, it's kind of like home decorating.
[00:24:19]  Yeah.
[00:24:19]  You just don't have that gift.
[00:24:21]  Right.
[00:24:21]  And it's really, it's so artistic in the hands of a professional.
[00:24:25]  So, like, if you're just doing it as a normal person and an amateur, like, you could probably do it fine, but it's an art for people like Molly, and she takes it seriously.
[00:24:32]  I don't know if we do do it fine.
[00:24:35]  I was not doing it fine.
[00:24:36]  Yeah, I don't.
[00:24:37]  I would suggest the all denim wardrobe suggest.
[00:24:41]  You also might not have been in the fine category.
[00:24:43]  I will gladly take that feedback.
[00:24:46]  But I mean, that's like it is an art when it's in someone's hands like Molly.
[00:24:49]  And so it was really, it was actually really cool to see that from her.
[00:24:52]  When you feel, well, how do you feel right now?
[00:24:54]  Like all dressed up with the makeup and the hair, you're looking bombshell y.
[00:24:58]  So I never ever get nervous for anything like this.
[00:25:01]  Yeah.
[00:25:02]  I was so nervous about today because I don't, I just like don't like being in the spotlight, which is kind of weird.
[00:25:07]  Yeah.
[00:25:07]  Like I don't, I'm not into like hair and makeup and clothes and that sort of thing.
[00:25:10]  But I feel great.
[00:25:11]  I mean, I actually, to your point about somebody like Molly paying for herself, I took her advice and like, Bought some of the stuff she picked out in different colors.
[00:25:18]  Well, now I'm sounding back to Doug, but I really did do that, and I feel like I won't have to replace a lot of it for a long time because it's just like really, um, like reliable and you can mix and match.
[00:25:32]  And once you learn what looks good on you and what doesn't, too, that's helpful.
[00:25:35]  Like, I recommend seeing a stylist once if for no other reason than that.
[00:25:40]  You thought you look good in high-waisted pants, but you don't, or you thought that you know this particular style was flattering in you, but it isn't, and so like.
[00:25:49]  That too pays for itself.
[00:25:50]  Otherwise, it's like furniture.
[00:25:51]  It's true.
[00:25:52]  I cannot decorate a home to save my life.
[00:25:54]  And I have tried many times in the apartments and the houses I've lived in over the years.
[00:25:59]  And it wasn't until I hired a professional that I was like, this is expensive, but it's less expensive than buying stuff you wind up hating and wanting to get rid of it a year later.
[00:26:11]  And that's the same is true with wardrobe, I think.
[00:26:13]  And I do think wardrobe is transformative.
[00:26:15]  I mood dress, it's Monday.
[00:26:18]  There's a lot of hard news.
[00:26:19]  We're talking about Iran, we're talking about soldiers.
[00:26:23]  The political scene is rough and tumble right now.
[00:26:25]  I like having the leather on.

=== Psychological Armor for Interviews (15:48) ===

[00:26:27]  I didn't know that about you, but that makes so much sense now that you say that.
[00:26:30]  Yeah.
[00:26:31]  I'll tell you something.
[00:26:34]  You know, when I did that event for Charlie Kirk right after he was killed at Virginia Tech, that night, so that was a scary one because it was before our tour launched.
[00:26:45]  It was like two weeks after Charlie had been murdered.
[00:26:49]  And it was only the second tour stop.
[00:26:52]  Michael Knowles did the first one post Charlie, I think in Minnesota.
[00:26:56]  And I did the second one post Charlie.
[00:26:58]  And, you know, Charlie and I were supposed to be there together.
[00:27:01]  Anyway, there was no way I was not going, but it was extremely.
[00:27:06]  Tense, and there were multiple reasons why we were on edge that night.
[00:27:10]  And Molly was sending me, Molly knew none of this.
[00:27:15]  She does fashion.
[00:27:16]  She's not totally immersed in the political world.
[00:27:18]  So she's sending me these beautiful outfits, possible for me to wear.
[00:27:22]  And they were red or they were pink or they were kind of floral or they were girly.
[00:27:30]  I wrote back to her something I've never said.
[00:27:32]  I said, Molly, I said, I'm worried about getting shot.
[00:27:36]  I want something in all black.
[00:27:38]  I want something that feels like armor.
[00:27:41]  And I did wear something that looked like armor that night.
[00:27:44]  I did have leather on and I was in all black.
[00:27:46]  Not that it's going to protect you.
[00:27:48]  It's just a psychological.
[00:27:50]  It's psychological.
[00:27:51]  Yeah.
[00:27:52]  And the same as if you're going to go to the White House and cover President Trump, I wouldn't wear this, but I would wear what you're wearing in a heartbeat where you want to feel like a little elevated and professional and like dress the part.
[00:28:04]  Right.
[00:28:04]  You know?
[00:28:05]  And it matters to how other people perceive you.
[00:28:09]  It changes how what you're saying is hitting other people's ears and how they're seeing it and perceiving it.
[00:28:14]  So it is important.
[00:28:15]  I mean, you could be the most eloquent person in the world.
[00:28:18]  And we love to think that it wouldn't matter, you know, how you looked or what you, but it does.
[00:28:22]  It obviously does.
[00:28:23]  And so I think actually that's super interesting because it changes.
[00:28:27]  I mean, it gives probably you psychologically, I'm just thinking about that example, the gravity that you wanted to come to the table with.
[00:28:33]  And then it also conveys it to other people too.
[00:28:35]  Yes, absolutely.
[00:28:36]  So you do have to have like, A couple of those wardrobe pieces where, like, if you want to look like a grown up, feel like a grown up, and project like a grown up, you can.
[00:28:44]  But the tomboy instinct is very fun.
[00:28:47]  Like, I also have that in me.
[00:28:50]  Still?
[00:28:50]  Yes, 100%.
[00:28:52]  I mean, I will dress feminine thanks to Molly.
[00:28:55]  She'll put me in things that I do like, but left to my own devices.
[00:28:58]  I mean, truly, what I'm normally, I mean, right now, I have on my aloe pants, which I wear every day.
[00:29:03]  I'm gonna show them.
[00:29:04]  I love them so much.
[00:29:05]  Like, it's great.
[00:29:06]  I mean, that looks so comfortable.
[00:29:08]  They're just truly, it's like, I don't.
[00:29:11]  I don't want to show my stomach, but I see it says aloe.
[00:29:14]  And they're kind of baggy, and I really love them.
[00:29:17]  They look really comfortable.
[00:29:18]  And I have on UGG huge shit kicking clogs, as you can see there.
[00:29:23]  They're very large.
[00:29:24]  They're the most comfortable thing I own.
[00:29:26]  But my point is simply when I'm here, generally, I am comfortable.
[00:29:29]  And I love that.
[00:29:31]  To me, it's actually the biggest middle finger of leaving the mainstream media is that we can do what we want.
[00:29:36]  You can wear a t shirt.
[00:29:38]  You don't actually have to go glam for this job at all if you don't want to.
[00:29:42]  Normally, I want to.
[00:29:43]  And that's part of growing up in TV.
[00:29:45]  I'm very used to seeing myself on camera looking like this.
[00:29:48]  And if I don't look made up, I feel like exposed.
[00:29:52]  Yeah.
[00:29:52]  Yeah, it's confidence.
[00:29:54]  But I admire that you can go on with next to nothing on and feel totally confident.
[00:29:59]  I mean, I spent probably five or so plus years, more than that, doing a lot of Fox and cable.
[00:30:05]  And I absolutely hated every second of it.
[00:30:07]  And so I felt completely liberated when the pandemic rolled around and they were starting to do like Zoom hits and that type of thing.
[00:30:12]  So I love this era.
[00:30:14]  But You can't go full.
[00:30:16]  And I noticed that right away that, like, I can't just take off all of my makeup and wear, like, I try not to wear hats and that type of thing, but you can find a balance.
[00:30:25]  I'm finding a balance.
[00:30:26]  I'm finding a balance.
[00:30:27]  It is true.
[00:30:28]  And I will tell you that, like, any man, it's usually the men who don't want to get the makeup.
[00:30:32]  And they all learn the hard way that if you don't, you look like Casper the Friendly Ghost because these lights that we need to light up the anchor's face so people can see him or her wash you out.
[00:30:43]  They get you.
[00:30:44]  Yeah.
[00:30:44]  So it's like you just get used to, like, putting it on.
[00:30:47]  And men, They only resist the first time.
[00:30:50]  Once they've seen themselves, then they're like, okay, I'll do it.
[00:30:52]  Because the men don't want the makeup.
[00:30:54]  Oh, they don't want to have the compacts, but they do.
[00:30:57]  Yeah.
[00:30:57]  And they don't leave them when they're going on air.
[00:30:59]  They'll have them.
[00:31:00]  That's right.
[00:31:01]  They have them with them.
[00:31:01]  And then the normal men will wash it off after they leave.
[00:31:05]  The men who leave it on all day are sus.
[00:31:07]  The normal men.
[00:31:09]  Yeah, it's a little weird because it's not comfortable either if you're a man, probably.
[00:31:12]  No, but it's funny because, like, I'm at the point now where, like, a completely naked face feels so foreign to me.
[00:31:20]  I mean, I do that twice a day.
[00:31:22]  I wake up like that, and in the evenings, I take off all my makeup before I go to sleep and I walk around my house with my family.
[00:31:27]  But, like, I just feel so naked without that.
[00:31:31]  That's the only way I can put it.
[00:31:33]  It was probably because the last, like, however many years of your life, every single day, people look at you and talk about you and are, like, commenting on you.
[00:31:42]  Well, you wouldn't want to get, like, caught at.
[00:31:44]  You know, by the paparazzi in your completely undone hair and completely undone face.
[00:31:50]  I guess, I don't know.
[00:31:51]  You're kissing me all the time.
[00:31:52]  Wait, I mean, I feel like, but you're, you're, I just feel like you're naturally pretty.
[00:31:55]  I feel like, I don't know.
[00:31:57]  I feel like I'm so pasty without my stuff on.
[00:31:59]  Oh, my God.
[00:32:00]  Truly, I do.
[00:32:01]  I feel like people would be like, my God, she has no pigment.
[00:32:06]  TMZ, make it belly lacks all.
[00:32:08]  It's coming.
[00:32:09]  It's coming.
[00:32:11]  It's funny because I saw my primary care physician last week and we had a very interesting conversation about looks.
[00:32:15]  Oh.
[00:32:16]  Yeah.
[00:32:17]  He goes, looks maxing.
[00:32:18]  Yeah.
[00:32:19]  That's how it got started because I asked him if he had listened to that conversation on the daily about clavicular.
[00:32:26]  This guy who coined that phrase, looks maxing.
[00:32:29]  And I was laughing because it was all about how, like, Guys are now taking supplements and they're having surgeries or they're doing Botox or the GLP 1.
[00:32:38]  And I was like, that's called being a normal woman.
[00:32:41]  Like, how is this a thing now?
[00:32:43]  Like, they didn't invent this.
[00:32:45]  This is like every woman I know has had many needles in her face from, you know, regular Botox or filler or whatever it is.
[00:32:50]  We're all on meth constantly.
[00:32:51]  Lasers, MEP.
[00:32:52]  Well, that's what he's on.
[00:32:53]  That's what he's on.
[00:32:54]  Yeah.
[00:32:54]  He's microdosing.
[00:32:55]  But anyway, I was kind of laughing that it got this, the New York Times treatment when it's a man, but when it's a woman, it's just kind of like a day ending and why.
[00:33:03]  And he was like, well, aren't you looking forward to 10 years from now?
[00:33:07]  And I said, why?
[00:33:07]  And he said, because your looks will no longer be the primary thing people notice about you.
[00:33:13]  Before he even got it out, I was like, No, no, no, I'm not.
[00:33:19]  Why would he say that?
[00:33:21]  Nor do I accept that that's what's happening in 10 years.
[00:33:24]  I plan to go down swinging.
[00:33:26]  There's so many older women I know who are stunning.
[00:33:29]  And I think it's really just a personal choice whether you want to like, but he was like, it will be liberating for you when the first thing anybody notices about you.
[00:33:37]  Is what you have to say.
[00:33:38]  I was like, well, I think people listen to it.
[00:33:40]  You know, whatever.
[00:33:41]  It's a combo.
[00:33:42]  But he was raising a good point, which is I definitely think about looks when I walk into a room.
[00:33:48]  Not every woman does.
[00:33:49]  And that's probably extremely liberating to just be like, here I am.
[00:33:52]  I don't give a shit what you think of my looks.
[00:33:54]  Yeah.
[00:33:54]  But it's one of those things where you can't do it when you're like, A, of course, broadcasting, but B, source meetings.
[00:34:01]  Like you have to have a certain level of professionalism.
[00:34:04]  And I do see younger people who grew up during COVID and they want to go do journalism and they just don't have that same.
[00:34:12]  Like, you don't have a choice if you're like, I'm not that old, but like 10 plus years ago, you didn't have a choice.
[00:34:17]  You had to like learn how to conduct yourself professionally.
[00:34:20]  And I do think that might be getting lost with like COVID era kids.
[00:34:23]  I have this bias.
[00:34:24]  I mean, when somebody walks in for an interview or what and they are like pulled together, they don't have to look as fancy as you do, but like just pulled together.
[00:34:34]  I am more favorably inclined toward them than if somebody came in with no makeup, hair undone, and like an outfit that I thought was on the slovenly side.
[00:34:43]  I would hold it against them.
[00:34:44]  I just feel like.
[00:34:46]  Togetherness as a person, like as somebody who's going to work for my company, projects something like a meticulousness, an attention to detail, a caring.
[00:34:55]  You know, I do find that like a lot of people who make zero effort are depressed and that it can be a tell that like they couldn't find the energy.
[00:35:04]  Isn't there social science about how people will just innately, unintentionally, they assign like lower degrees of trust to the obese?
[00:35:13]  And I'm pretty sure there's social science on that.
[00:35:15]  And the reason I say that is I think.
[00:35:17]  It conveys, I mean, the theory is that it conveys a lack of discipline.
[00:35:20]  And so you just don't, or self control.
[00:35:22]  And I think there is something about, even if you're somebody who's like, I don't really care that much about clothes and whatever, but you should convey that you care enough about the meeting or the broadcast or whatever it is to dress like you care.
[00:35:35]  Yeah.
[00:35:36]  And so there's something to that.
[00:35:37]  People might be surprised, but I actually have a bias.
[00:35:39]  I do not want to gain weight.
[00:35:40]  And I go to this primary care physician, which I've told the audience before, he's a faddest.
[00:35:44]  Like, he won't let you gain two pounds without guilting you.
[00:35:46]  He's like, you know how many two pounds is over 10 years?
[00:35:48]  Good luck getting that off.
[00:35:50]  So, but I like that because I don't want to gain weight.
[00:35:52]  But personally, I have a soft spot when I see somebody who's obese or comes into my life who's obese because my mom has always been overweight.
[00:36:00]  She loves when I tell this story.
[00:36:01]  She must.
[00:36:02]  She must.
[00:36:02]  Yeah, my mom's been overweight my whole life.
[00:36:04]  When I was a kid growing up in Syracuse, she was like really overweight.
[00:36:07]  Now she's slimmer, but I associate that with like warmth and love and like funny.
[00:36:14]  And I don't know.
[00:36:15]  My mom is so great that that's what I associate that with.
[00:36:17]  So I almost have a bias in favor of people who are pleasantly plump.
[00:36:21]  She will not like any of these words.
[00:36:23]  She's going to hate this.
[00:36:24]  And now I'm going to get blamed.
[00:36:25]  But no, it does.
[00:36:26]  But now it doesn't take a lack of discipline to be overweight because of the food that we eat and the lives that we live.
[00:36:32]  So it doesn't affect that necessarily anymore.
[00:36:34]  It's just like an innate, I think, human reaction for whatever reason.
[00:36:37]  So now what kind of reaction have you gotten to like.
[00:36:41]  Has the significant other?
[00:36:42]  Are we out with a significant other?
[00:36:43]  Do people know who it is?
[00:36:44]  Philip?
[00:36:45]  Yeah.
[00:36:45]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:45]  Okay, good.
[00:36:46]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:36:47]  It's Philip Wegman of RCP.
[00:36:49]  Well, first day at the Wall Street Journal today.
[00:36:52]  Oh, no way.
[00:36:53]  Oh, congrats, Phil.
[00:36:54]  I probably shouldn't have said that, but.
[00:36:55]  Oh, that's awesome.
[00:36:56]  Yes.
[00:36:57]  Well, he's the beast.
[00:36:58]  He is a cutie patootie, and it's no surprise these two are together, but it actually was a surprise to me because I didn't know that.
[00:37:04]  So, did he see any of the.
[00:37:07]  This was like before I knew you.
[00:37:09]  Just as we launched the show, he asked to do an interview, and I was like, I don't know anything about Phil.
[00:37:15]  And Steve Krakauer is like, he's great.
[00:37:16]  You're going to love him.
[00:37:17]  I'm like, trusted Steve.
[00:37:18]  You know, I'm, yeah, I know.
[00:37:19]  But I'm so suspicious of any reporter I don't know.
[00:37:23]  And he was awesome.
[00:37:24]  And the piece wound up completely fair and great.
[00:37:26]  So, anyway, I love that you two are together.
[00:37:28]  So, has he seen Made Over Emily?
[00:37:30]  He loves the extensions.
[00:37:31]  He loves the extensions.
[00:37:33]  And yet, he always, yeah, he loves whenever I dress feminine.
[00:37:38]  And so, yes, he's very interesting.
[00:37:41]  We're big fans of his.
[00:37:42]  All right.
[00:37:42]  So, the reason we did this is I don't know why we did this exactly.
[00:37:45]  I just thought it would be fun.
[00:37:46]  I just thought it'd be fun, like a sort of a lighter side of the show.
[00:37:49]  And in my mind, what we're going to do is we did you.
[00:37:54]  Maybe we'll do one other person associated with our show.
[00:37:56]  Maybe not.
[00:37:57]  But I want to take this to the audience.
[00:37:59]  Like, I really would love to have like audience submissions on is there someone in your life who you think deserves this, deserves an MK show makeover or a zhuzhing?
[00:38:10]  I will do men.
[00:38:12]  I will do men.
[00:38:13]  Mark could use our help.
[00:38:16]  You're on notice, Mark.
[00:38:18]  Mark needs Sarah Clemente.
[00:38:19]  I will make you hot treatment.
[00:38:21]  Oh, extensions?
[00:38:24]  No, but Mark's a good looking guy.
[00:38:26]  He just, you know, like if he spent some time in Molly's care with the wardrobe, I think we could take a next level.
[00:38:32]  I'd love to see what they would do with Link.
[00:38:34]  I think Link wouldn't let anybody touch him.
[00:38:35]  He's like, Girls, I've nailed it.
[00:38:38]  You can improve on.
[00:38:39]  Anyway, give us some thought, ladies and gentlemen listening now.
[00:38:43]  And if you have somebody who you want to nominate for this treatment, A little MK show makeover with some wardrobe and some hair and makeup.
[00:38:51]  Email me.
[00:38:51]  It's Megan, M E G Y N, at MeganKelly.com.
[00:38:55]  We are taking your submissions.
[00:38:57]  So, so fun.
[00:38:58]  Thank you for being our stunning guinea pig.
[00:39:00]  I know that it was painful, but your team is so much fun and you're so much fun that they made it a blast.
[00:39:06]  I love Sarah, Molly, and everyone else.
[00:39:07]  Aren't they great?
[00:39:08]  Oh my God.
[00:39:09]  They're so great.
[00:39:09]  Just do what they tell you.
[00:39:10]  And they will take input and then overrule you.
[00:39:12]  But it's fun.
[00:39:14]  But they'll make you feel like you're a part of the process.
[00:39:16]  Sarah's my new best friend.
[00:39:17]  She's been saying the same.
[00:39:19]  I love that.
[00:39:22]  Okay, let's keep going because there actually is other news to discuss today.
[00:39:26]  12 37, we finally get to it.
[00:39:27]  We know about Thatcher.
[00:39:29]  We know about Molly and Sarah and your makeover and my visit to my doctor.
[00:39:34]  Let's get down to the news.
[00:39:36]  So, before we get to the rescue, what happened this weekend?
[00:39:39]  Because it really was a stunning thing.
[00:39:42]  The president's messaging on Iran has been particularly erratic over the past week.
[00:39:47]  And I don't know whether this is all strategy.
[00:39:51]  You know, Trump likes to keep the enemy guessing.
[00:39:53]  Whether the enemy is the actual enemy, like we're seeing with Iran in a war, or just people he's negotiating against, like China in a tariff battle.
[00:40:02]  So, he often has erratic messaging that to us looks kind of crazy, but to him is just a tactic that we will later understand or we won't, but he thinks we'll give him a leg up.
[00:40:15]  So, I don't know what's happening here, but there's no question in my mind he didn't say open the fucking straight, F U C K I N apostrophe, you crazy bastards.
[00:40:26]  Yeah, crazy bastards.
[00:40:27]  He's like full Roy Cohn.
[00:40:29]  Yeah.
[00:40:31]  There's no question he did that, not because he's gone insane, as his worst critics have said.
[00:40:35]  But for a reason, my first thought is he wants attention to this, and there's no better way to get attention than to take it next level.
[00:40:46]  Let's look at the messaging around open the fucking straight.
[00:40:49]  I mean, that in and of itself got it.
[00:40:52]  I'll remember that one.
[00:40:53]  He wants it open, not closed.
[00:40:56]  And around it is Tuesday will be power plant day, bridge day, all wrapped in one in Iran.
[00:41:02]  There'll be nothing like it.
[00:41:03]  Triple exclamation open the fucking straight, you crazy bastards.
[00:41:06]  All I can think of is that scene in Home Alone.
[00:41:08]  You filthy animals, you know, or you'll be living in hell.
[00:41:15]  Just watch.
[00:41:16]  That has all caps.
[00:41:17]  Why does the just watch get all caps?
[00:41:19]  Praise be to Allah.
[00:41:21]  The other day, okay, I don't know why Allah's here.
[00:41:23]  The day before, the best part of the poem, he ended it with glory be to God.
[00:41:28]  So maybe he's being an equal opportunity.
[00:41:30]  Oh, you know, maybe it's a First Amendment situation where he's not trying to promote one religion.
[00:41:34]  Sure, he's really conscious of that.
[00:41:35]  You do speak fluent Trump.
[00:41:37]  You were talking about this on Friday's show.
[00:41:38]  I think you just cracked the coat of why you put praise be to Allah.
[00:41:41]  I did.
[00:41:42]  Stick out to me that he's being an equal opportunity religious promoter.
[00:41:46]  So, and then he says, he gave two interviews over the phone, one to ABC, and then there was a second one.
[00:41:58]  Sorry, that's in my AM update, where he's making clear they need to open the straight.
[00:42:02]  I mean, it's all about like open the straight or else.
[00:42:04]  So, what do you make of it all?
[00:42:06]  I mean, your point is, I think, the important one that he literally wrote about this negotiation style and art of the deal.
[00:42:12]  And we saw it over and over again exactly a year ago with the tariff.

=== Supporting War Without TDS (09:05) ===

[00:42:16]  And this reminds me so much of the post Liberation Day tariff negotiation that was going on via X, where he was making these massive deals, or at least he thought he was, via increasingly, I don't know that I would say erratic with the tariffs, but maybe increasingly bombastic posts on X.
[00:42:33]  And you can never disentangle what is serious from what is negotiation.
[00:42:39]  And that, I think, is his point.
[00:42:40]  I think that's what he wants to do.
[00:42:42]  He wants you to not, like you said, he wants to keep people guessing, but he also doesn't totally want to telegraph.
[00:42:48]  How serious or non serious he is about anything.
[00:42:51]  And so you end up having to take absolutely everything seriously, including posts like this, which are threats of essentially war crimes.
[00:42:58]  And that leaves the public in a really odd place because you and I both know the media has covered Trump so poorly for so long.
[00:43:07]  And every single tweet was taken like the end of the world.
[00:43:10]  And I think this term, he's really leaned into doing these global deals via true social acts or whatever.
[00:43:19]  And I think he's realized that you can.
[00:43:21]  You can confuse people, keep people guessing by posts.
[00:43:26]  And it just makes it very difficult to pick up where his head actually is.
[00:43:30]  That's the point.
[00:43:31]  I think that's intentionally why he's doing it.
[00:43:33]  But then again, you're also threatening civilian infrastructure and the like.
[00:43:37]  So it's hard.
[00:43:38]  Right, because we are supposed to be, you know, eventually helping the Iranian people.
[00:43:43]  At least that's one of the goals that was originally stated, though it's waffled.
[00:43:48]  Bombing all of their civilian infrastructure will not help the Iranian people, and it actually could cost a lot of Iranian civilian lives.
[00:43:53]  So we have to be like super careful about that.
[00:43:56]  The rules, as I understand, under the Geneva Convention say if they're using these things to support the military, then possibly fair game.
[00:44:04]  The bridge last week.
[00:44:06]  Yeah.
[00:44:06]  If they're purely a civilian, like the desalination plants should not be touched.
[00:44:12]  He had mentioned that in one truth, which notably did not make the most recent truth, which I'm sure somebody got to him to say that's a hard no on those.
[00:44:21]  Though one was struck last week, and then there was a finger pointing about who had done it.
[00:44:26]  It wasn't us, it was like Iran said Israel did it, and Israel said Iran did it.
[00:44:29]  I'm trying to remember exactly where it happened.
[00:44:30]  And our government was saying that it was being used for war purposes so that it could be used for weapons transfer.
[00:44:37]  Transportation and that type of thing.
[00:44:39]  I mean, I will say, like, I'm having difficulty believing everything that our government is putting out, which is strange for me.
[00:44:46]  Like, I normally would believe our government.
[00:44:48]  And it's not about Trump, it's about having been lied to for so many years in Iraq and Afghanistan and having accepted their lies unquestioningly and peddled them, you know, unwittingly.
[00:44:58]  And I just refuse to be the conduit to that again.
[00:45:01]  Like, it's very easy to, it's very interesting to me, Emily, that virtually all of the loudest pushback on this war.
[00:45:09]  Has come from people who are in the independent news space, right?
[00:45:12]  Like, I would say the independent lane has been most forceful and probably most effective in turning around public opinion on this because no one owns us, no one controls us.
[00:45:25]  So, it's like one thing if MSNBC is like, it sucks and Trump sucks, of course, they all know what they're doing on Team Blue.
[00:45:33]  Even though a lot of those Democrats are beholden to AIPAC and are not saying that in any way because they actually want to make a point about Israel's control.
[00:45:42]  They're just saying it because they hate Trump.
[00:45:45]  But there's a lot happening in the independent lean right now.
[00:45:48]  These podcasters, who we were told have absolutely no power, who I think are turning sentiment with some people because we're all able to report very openly and honestly on the folly of what we're doing here and the reversal and the betrayal that this was to Trump's campaign promises.
[00:46:04]  And look, the president, I told him this directly that.
[00:46:06]  I don't support this war, but I do support him.
[00:46:09]  And there is a difference.
[00:46:11]  You can still support Trump and his agenda without, you don't have to go full TDS in order to say, I object to this war and I don't think this is a good idea.
[00:46:20]  And I don't know, have you noticed this at all, like in the coverage?
[00:46:23]  Because if you turn on Fox News, you only have one message.
[00:46:27]  And there is a reason for that.
[00:46:29]  I was going to say, case in point would be looking at CNN, where actually, this is interesting, very anti Trump network, but not a lot of pitched criticism of the war itself.
[00:46:39]  At all.
[00:46:39]  Like, have there been many viral CNN clips of like Trump Iran takedowns?
[00:46:44]  Not particularly.
[00:46:45]  No.
[00:46:45]  And I think that's because there's a lot of baked in support for what you're hearing at the Pentagon or from, I mean, a lot of the leaks right now are very obviously coming from the intelligence community.
[00:46:53]  Like, Natasha Bertrand had a big scoop last week that everyone is like, the discredited reporter who had all the scoops on Russiagate that turned out to be completely false.
[00:47:03]  Yes.
[00:47:04]  And interestingly, that scoop she had last week with Jim Sciutto, who was like chief of staff to the ambassador to China during the Obama administration.
[00:47:10]  So clearly this was coming from.
[00:47:12]  Somewhere in the military intelligence world.
[00:47:15]  That was about how actually Iran still had like 50% of its missile launchers and that type of capacity.
[00:47:23]  So you're trying to piece together why that story came out when.
[00:47:26]  But this is why, I mean, there are decades of pieces of evidence that people brag about afterwards in our own government when it comes to propaganda that they were feeding to the press over and over again throughout the Cold War.
[00:47:38]  It is not like some giant conspiracy.
[00:47:40]  You can look at the memos yourself.
[00:47:42]  And so it's part of any government's playbook.
[00:47:44]  And now people are just wise to that because the internet democratized the government.
[00:47:48]  Even if it's a government you support, they're going to lie to you, especially as a member of the press.
[00:47:53]  But you have this contrast of having seen it from the inside and now being on the outside.
[00:47:58]  And that has to be a really interesting experience.
[00:48:02]  It's disappointing because I don't want this to sound too weird, but I really care about this administration.
[00:48:12]  I care about the players.
[00:48:13]  I did back them personally and I still back them.
[00:48:16]  And I really, really, really desperately want Trump to just get back to the agenda that he actually did run on, you know, both for the nation's sake and for his sake and his party's sake and for 2028's sake.
[00:48:29]  I've kind of given up on 2026, to be perfectly honest with you, but like 2028 could still be salvaged and could definitely be hurt, right?
[00:48:38]  And so I just, people don't support this war.
[00:48:41]  The support for the war is down in the 30s.
[00:48:43]  So it's like the president can make himself feel better by saying, well, MAGA is totally behind me.
[00:48:47]  Well, MAGA is 15% of the population.
[00:48:49]  That's not enough.
[00:48:51]  To win elections, you need not only MAGA, you need the majority of Republicans, or not all MAGA.
[00:48:56]  And in fact, more and more are saying they're not MAGA.
[00:48:59]  The people who say the portion that says it's MAGA is dwindling at the moment.
[00:49:03]  And you need outside of Republicans, you need independents.
[00:49:07]  And if you can get some crossover Democrats like he did in 24, so much the better.
[00:49:11]  Right.
[00:49:12]  So let's, whatever we thought or he thought about this war, whatever sweet nothings Mark Levin and Lindsey Graham whispered to him.
[00:49:19]  Did you see his Levin tweet last night?
[00:49:20]  Yet another one.
[00:49:21]  The Supreme Court should be watching Mark live in, though.
[00:49:24]  That is what he, that is how they should spend their time.
[00:49:26]  Oh my God.
[00:49:28]  Like he loves Mark Levin.
[00:49:29]  We have to admit it.
[00:49:30]  He's obsessed with Mark Levin.
[00:49:32]  Who among us?
[00:49:33]  I mean, he doesn't want to get to know him intimately because I'm telling you, there's a secret he's hiding there.
[00:49:40]  Apparently, not a secret anymore.
[00:49:42]  I, of course, I've never, I can't attest to it, you know, individually.
[00:49:46]  I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm just saying you take one look at him, and anybody who's got that much to prove, he's got a problem.
[00:49:53]  You know, see, this is the, here's what's dangerous actually, now that I'm thinking of it the proportion of MAGA voters shrinking.
[00:50:00]  Harry Enton had that stunning CNN poll that people were actually surprised by when it showed like 100% of MAGA two weeks into the war was in support of Donald Trump.
[00:50:08]  Those are like the Mark Levin types.
[00:50:09]  And you wonder if you just start listening to this group that's getting smaller and smaller, and it's the Fifth Avenue voters, which is the term that I use, a term of endearment that I use for those folks who Trump could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and still support him because they trust him.
[00:50:24]  Everyone else was lying to them and he correctly told them that.
[00:50:27]  So they trust him.
[00:50:28]  There's something like rational about it, even if I disagree with it.
[00:50:31]  They If that's, they're not going to criticize you and you're only listening to them and they're getting more and more isolated in a bubble, that is frightening in a wartime scenario.
[00:50:42]  And the MAGA coalition was not just, you explained this really well when you said you were MAGA adjacent.
[00:50:48]  That is how so many people, high profile critics of the war were, but they were being called MAGA because the media didn't understand what it actually was.
[00:50:54]  That's exactly right.
[00:50:55]  And now the right is not understanding what it actually was because they're looking around, you were MAGA.
[00:51:00]  Yeah.
[00:51:00]  Aren't you with us?
[00:51:01]  No, there's a litmus test.
[00:51:02]  I mean, the president still thinks he can punish.
[00:51:04]  Certain of us by saying you're not mag.
[00:51:06]  Like, it's not a punishment.
[00:51:07]  My audience knows I'm not mag.
[00:51:09]  I never was.
[00:51:10]  Except for on Halloween.
[00:51:12]  Yes, on Halloween.
[00:51:13]  That's true.
[00:51:13]  But I care about the present and I support him and I love to get off the Iran war if possible.
[00:51:18]  We'll be right back.
[00:51:18]  I'm not done.
[00:51:20]  You're busy.

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[00:53:41]  Or maybe it's bimboification.
[00:53:44]  Yeah.
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[00:53:53]  Every day we get a new one.
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[00:53:58]  Did you happen to see Tim Dillon?
[00:54:00]  I did.
[00:54:00]  All right, we've got to show this to the audience.
[00:54:02]  We love Tim Dillon here.
[00:54:03]  He's brilliant.
[00:54:04]  He's like the best comedians, he's brilliant.
[00:54:07]  He is.
[00:54:08]  And it's not that he masks it, it's just that his persona is like funny and slapstick and like irreverent as hell, but he is brilliant.
[00:54:17]  Just listen to his words and his takes, like his ins and outs on various stories.
[00:54:21]  And this.
[00:54:23]  This is a combo clip, but he took on the issue of Christy Gnome and Brian Gnome while wearing, for the listening audience, similar prosthetic boobs and a shirt to what Brian Gnome famously, infamously was wearing in those Daily Mail photos last week.
[00:54:39]  Watch.
[00:54:40]  The family was blindsided by this.
[00:54:44]  Miss Gnome is devastated.
[00:54:46]  The family was blindsided by this, and they asked for privacy and prayers at this time.
[00:54:49]  What am I supposed to pray for this guy and his tits?
[00:54:54]  So wait a minute.
[00:54:55]  All the horror that's happening in the world, people are literally being vaporized by machines of death, flying, you know, in the air.
[00:55:06]  We're bombing schoolgirls while they sit in class, and I'm supposed to pray for Christy Gnome's husband and his H-cup tits?
[00:55:17]  That's where the direction my prayers are supposed to go in.
[00:55:20]  When the people in Gaza are wandering around trying to find grain so they can bake a loaf of bread.
[00:55:27]  I'm supposed to pay for Christy Gnome's husband and his big tits.
[00:55:33]  Well, no, I will not pray for your husband and his big tits.
[00:55:38]  How about that?
[00:55:39]  You can pray for his big tits.
[00:55:43]  Do you think she threw the tits out?
[00:55:45]  Was she like, give me those tits?
[00:55:48]  Oh my.
[00:55:51]  I hope Brian Gnome wasn't watching that because it might have worked.
[00:55:54]  Yeah, he probably loved them.
[00:55:57]  It's got to be bigger than H.
[00:55:58]  Oh, no.
[00:56:00]  Yes, I agree.
[00:56:01]  Yes, bigger than H. Actually, I know somebody, a dear friend of mine, who was in that neighborhood, and they are definitely bigger than H. Seems like it.
[00:56:08]  Yeah, way bigger than H. They're closer to the end of the alphabet.
[00:56:12]  Oh, yeah.
[00:56:13]  Well, Tim did a great job.
[00:56:14]  Yeah, he did.
[00:56:15]  Replicating.
[00:56:16]  I mean, I see his point.
[00:56:17]  And by the way, we talked about this with Maureen on Friday, but the vast majority of people, I think, believe that Christy Noam knew about this long before the statement to the media when it broke last week.
[00:56:31]  And she's just now, you know, it's just now coming out.
[00:56:35]  Some believe she leaked it in order to generate sympathy for her because she's been having this alleged affair with Corey Lewandowski, which she denies, but everybody has seen them together.
[00:56:43]  I mean, multiple times.
[00:56:44]  So I don't, whatever.
[00:56:45]  I'm over those two and their weird marriage.
[00:56:48]  I don't understand what they're doing, nor do I care.
[00:56:50]  Let's get back to what the president is saying.
[00:56:53]  He is speaking out about specifically the Iran war, and he is basically setting this deadline of tomorrow night.
[00:56:59]  And by the way, he's going to be speaking momentarily, and we're going to be monitoring it for news, and we'll bring it to you.
[00:57:04]  But okay, here's what he said to.
[00:57:07]  Is it Fox News's Trey Yinks tier in SOT 2B?
[00:57:11]  Let's watch it.
[00:57:12]  This is not Trey Yinks.
[00:57:13]  This is today.
[00:57:14]  Let's listen.
[00:57:15]  The deadline is Tuesday at 8 p.m., your final deadline.
[00:57:18]  If Iran does not meet your demands, Mr. President, are you willing to continue the war?
[00:57:23]  We'll have to watch.
[00:57:28]  The answer is yes, but you'll have to watch.
[00:57:31]  What do you think of the Minsk proposal?
[00:57:34]  They've made a proposal, and it's a significant proposal.
[00:57:37]  It's a significant step.
[00:57:38]  It's not good enough.
[00:57:39]  but it's a very significant step.
[00:57:45]  They're negotiating now and they've made a very significant step.
[00:57:48]  We'll see what happens.
[00:57:51]  There's a band in the background because it's the Easter egg roll at the White House.
[00:57:55]  And by the way, this just hit, too, during the break of Trump speaking to the very thing that we were speaking to, which is why did he use the language he used?
[00:58:04]  Look at this.
[00:58:06]  Why did you use such over language in that true social post?
[00:58:09]  Only to make my point.
[00:58:11]  I think you've heard it before.
[00:58:13]  Mr. President, why did you say praise be to Allah?
[00:58:18]  I'm going to be doing it right now.
[00:58:20]  To make a point, you called it.
[00:58:22]  You do speak fluent Trump.
[00:58:25]  He got us talking about it.
[00:58:26]  He got everybody talking about that post.
[00:58:29]  Well, and your point also was that he wanted to call attention, not just to the post that he was angry or whatever, specifically to the straight.
[00:58:36]  Yep.
[00:58:37]  Open the fucking straight.
[00:58:39]  Yep.
[00:58:40]  Yeah, filthy animals.
[00:58:42]  It worked.
[00:58:42]  It worked.
[00:58:43]  He did it.
[00:58:44]  So well done, I guess.
[00:58:45]  He did not answer on the a la thing.
[00:58:47]  He chose to answer the other question.
[00:58:49]  Have you spoken to the families?
[00:58:50]  Again, we're going to get more details on that right now.
[00:58:52]  So he.
[00:58:54]  He's frustrated because it sounds like, I mean, at every turn, the Iranians say no.
[00:59:00]  The president reportedly proposed a ceasefire for some 45 days, and Iran already said no.
[00:59:09]  They're not interested in it because they're enjoying watching him suffer politically.
[00:59:13]  They want that, they don't want to relieve that pressure.
[00:59:16]  And they also said that they think it would give us time to regroup.
[00:59:18]  I'm not sure we need to regroup.
[00:59:20]  It's really, we can do what we want to do.
[00:59:22]  It's just a question of whether we have the political support for it and willpower to do it.
[00:59:26]  President Trump is now saying, we don't need ground troops.
[00:59:30]  He says, we don't need ground troops.
[00:59:31]  But like Mark Thiessen, in listening to his tweets and so on, or posts, came out and said, we're going to take the straight.
[00:59:41]  There's no way of doing that without ground troops.
[00:59:43]  So, really, he's doing a good job of keeping everybody guessing.
[00:59:46]  We don't know.
[00:59:47]  And so, if the Iranians don't come to a deal by tomorrow night, do we believe, Trump, that there will be a major escalation on our part?
[00:59:55]  Well, I mean, it seems impossible.
[00:59:58]  Like with the Strait of Hormuz right now, it seems impossible that you could have any deal, ceasefire, anything, with Iran still in control of the Strait of Hormuz and Trump be able to claim a W.
[01:00:08]  It just, it's not, even by Trumpian public relations standards, it's not possible.
[01:00:12]  It's not feasible economically.
[01:00:14]  None of it makes sense.
[01:00:15]  Maybe that's what they meant by regrouping because right now, gas prices are already getting very hard for Americans to stomach.
[01:00:21]  It's upsetting allies.
[01:00:22]  Except for $4.19, I think, a gallon, the average.
[01:00:25]  In DC, my gas station was $5.20 yesterday.
[01:00:28]  It's a lot.
[01:00:28]  It was insane.
[01:00:30]  But that's, I mean, all over the country.
[01:00:31]  Full serve?
[01:00:33]  Terrible, yeah, yes, yeah, just gotta factor that in about 10 cents more a gallon if you go full serve, yeah, that's probably true.
[01:00:39]  Uh, either way, over five dollars.
[01:00:41]  I always go full serve, it's just crazy.
[01:00:44]  Um, and so anyway, the administration had like with the taco thing last year, everyone always said Trump always chickens out, that was the joke.
[01:00:52]  And sometimes, yes, he what did he say?
[01:00:54]  He looked at the markets and they were getting a little wobbly or something like that, but it's not, and this isn't a defense of it, but it's not necessarily chickening out, it's a question of him trying to figure out how far he can push, yeah, how far he can push the public.
[01:01:07]  How far he can push other people while still working towards some W, some way to say this was a success.
[01:01:15]  I agree.
[01:01:15]  And it's the funny thing with Trump is like, I don't think it's a question of chickening out.
[01:01:19]  He has plenty of guts.
[01:01:21]  That's not an issue.
[01:01:23]  He stood up and started speaking to the crowd when he just got shot in the head.
[01:01:28]  Yeah.
[01:01:28]  Like he's not a chicken.
[01:01:29]  Yeah.
[01:01:30]  He's actually quite brave.
[01:01:32]  It's just his negotiating tactics appear erratic to those of us who don't behave this way.
[01:01:37]  I can't remember where I heard this discussed, but it was a good point.
[01:01:40]  They were saying that.
[01:01:41]  With most, it might have been the guys at RCP, that with most presidents, everything is a build up to if this fails, you get troops, you get invaded.
[01:01:51]  And with Trump, it's almost like, you're invaded.
[01:01:54]  Now we can talk.
[01:01:54]  Right.
[01:01:55]  Right.
[01:01:55]  Like he kind of goes that way first with some shock and awe military moment and then says, all right, now that I've got your attention, let's chat.
[01:02:04]  Which is how you do business deals.
[01:02:06]  Like that's, it's actually the negotiation strategy again that he wrote about.
[01:02:10]  It's how you do business deals on a high level if you're Donald Trump.
[01:02:14]  Maybe not how everyone does business deals, but it's how Donald Trump.
[01:02:16]  I'm pretty sure Jamie Dimon doesn't go that way, but yeah.
[01:02:19]  But I mean, real estate world, sleazy high level real estate world.
[01:02:23]  It's not surprising.
[01:02:25]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:02:26]  But when you're doing it on the world stage with Greenland being a very good example, directionally not insane.
[01:02:32]  Everything that he was saying about Greenland, directionally not insane.
[01:02:35]  Oh, he persuaded me by the end.
[01:02:36]  It's not a crazy case at all.
[01:02:38]  But it already, because of the process, and this is the question, are the means justifying the ends?
[01:02:44]  And the means of that process.
[01:02:46]  Alienated like populist conservatives in Europe.
[01:02:50]  And so the question is, were the means of alienating all of those potential allies worth the end?
[01:02:57]  And I mean, with Greenland, what is he going to do for the rest of his term?
[01:03:00]  I don't know.
[01:03:01]  But right now, it looks like no, that was not worth the end of what happened.
[01:03:06]  I think Europe's been complaining a lot lately because they're mad about this war.
[01:03:11]  I feel like I have a tough time feeling sorry for Europe.
[01:03:16]  You know, they've been taking advantage of us for a long, long time.
[01:03:18]  It's fine.
[01:03:19]  We wanted it that way.
[01:03:20]  You can't really say it's taking advantage when we set it up that way.
[01:03:22]  Like, we're going to be your military protector.
[01:03:24]  We're your big brother.
[01:03:25]  You know, but while that's been happening, their values have changed like fundamentally from what they used to be.
[01:03:33]  And we've really had a serious question put out there into the world order about whether we should be their big brother.
[01:03:41]  You know, like if we're just going to continue being more and more provocative in Europe and elsewhere when it comes to Russia, When it comes to getting closer and closer, everybody's part of NATO now.
[01:03:52]  The one thing they know Putin doesn't want I'm not defending Putin, I'm just saying that saber rattling like that endangers everybody and is unnecessary.
[01:04:01]  It's not all Europe.
[01:04:02]  We did that too.
[01:04:03]  And in the meantime, the crackdowns on free speech, the refusal to crack down on rape gangs in the UK because of skin color, I guess you can rape with impunity if you happen to be black as long as you target a white girl.
[01:04:17]  Can we go after them if they target brown girls?
[01:04:19]  I'm not sure what it's going to take.
[01:04:21]  My point is simply, they are a shadow of their former selves.
[01:04:24]  I don't think a lot of us are feeling like teary eyed about, you know what, stop us.
[01:04:29]  Stop, stop with the, you're, you know, indignant over the president's behavior.
[01:04:35]  He's finally treating you the way you've been treating us and your own people for a long, long time.
[01:04:41]  You just do it behind closed doors in a way that feels to you more civilized.
[01:04:44]  But he does it out in the open.
[01:04:46]  I mean, and it works.
[01:04:47]  Like he got NATO defense spending up.
[01:04:49]  Through different kinds of things.
[01:04:50]  He at least got a promise of it.
[01:04:52]  Right.
[01:04:52]  Yeah.
[01:04:52]  From his threats.
[01:04:53]  And on the other hand, he now wants NATO to go in and start opening the strait.
[01:04:59]  If they are more reliant on that oil and gas, he wants them to go in and do it themselves.
[01:05:05]  And just the question is not, because I agree with you.
[01:05:07]  I mean, if you accept Big Brother's protection and then you don't want to take the demands, you're not upholding your end of the bargain.
[01:05:15]  So obviously the bargain is not, the bargain is broken.
[01:05:18]  Yeah.
[01:05:18]  And that's what I really think they need their own military.
[01:05:21]  Like the post World War II order.
[01:05:23]  It's outdated.
[01:05:23]  We don't need it.
[01:05:24]  We don't have to be the policemen of the world.
[01:05:27]  Why are we?
[01:05:27]  Like, why do we have all these troops in Germany and South Korea still?
[01:05:31]  Is that really necessary?
[01:05:33]  50,000 troops in the Middle East?
[01:05:35]  Is that necessary?
[01:05:35]  Like, unfortunately, the Middle East actually have been good allies to us.
[01:05:39]  And they too have a bunch of values that we don't necessarily share.
[01:05:43]  But we've been making headway over there.
[01:05:44]  It was better than the 9 11 days.
[01:05:47]  And now we've gotten them bombed because Iran is striking out at them, which is a terrible move, but makes sense strategically.
[01:05:53]  Because it's upsetting.
[01:05:54]  It's raising the stakes on us.
[01:05:55]  It's raising the pressure points on us.
[01:05:57]  All of our Middle East allies are looking at Trump like, let's wrap it up.
[01:06:00]  Even though they like seeing some of it, they like seeing Iran get bombed because they're not big fans of the Shiites.
[01:06:05]  Well, and then Trump, what if he ends the war, ends quote unquote, ends the war, and they've gotten bombed to hell?
[01:06:12]  Many places in the Gulf have.
[01:06:14]  And the Strait of Hormuz is still being controlled by Iran.
[01:06:17]  Yeah.
[01:06:18]  I know.
[01:06:18]  He says if we leave, it's just going to open up.
[01:06:20]  He says, okay, fine.
[01:06:21]  If that's true, great.
[01:06:22]  Then let's let it be somebody else's problem.
[01:06:24]  But clearly, he was told that's not going to be the case because his messaging changed almost immediately after that message on Wednesday night.
[01:06:30]  Right.
[01:06:30]  And even if you're a defender of the American empire and you want the U.S. to have, you will openly defend, which is the most honest way to do it, U.S. imperialism.
[01:06:38]  Even if you want that, all of this has practical implications for our relationships with our allies.
[01:06:43]  And that's the point that I was just trying to make.
[01:06:45]  Like, that matters.
[01:06:46]  At the end of the day, you can't just, You know, say we're going to get to a better place, follow along with me, trust me.
[01:06:52]  It's like, well, these countries are getting bombed, we're not getting bombed.
[01:06:54]  Yeah, I know their markets are like Japan, so reliant on this type.
[01:07:00]  Like, this is bad for all the warnings coming out of Europe are dire on the energy crisis heading their way.
[01:07:05]  Yeah, dire.
[01:07:06]  Yep, like they'll feel it and then we'll feel it.
[01:07:08]  We're already feeling it a little, but we're going to feel it more.
[01:07:10]  A couple months lagged after Europe, and Trump knows that, so he's got a lot to balance here.
[01:07:15]  He's trying to wrap this up, and I have to say, the Iranians.
[01:07:18]  They won't bend.
[01:07:19]  You know, they are some stubborn mofos over there, and they see that their best, their Navy was never going to defeat our Navy.
[01:07:27]  Their Air Force was never going to defeat our Air Force.
[01:07:31]  It's this test of wills like, how much pain can they take while they ratchet up the pain on Trump politically?
[01:07:38]  And they're good at that.
[01:07:40]  They're good at it, they don't really care that much about the lives of their fighters.
[01:07:44]  So these IRGCs are like, yeah, go ahead, you know, take them.
[01:07:48]  If it costs you another point politically while we drag this out even longer, Great!
[01:07:54]  So, this is, and what we've seen this in the Middle East, we knew this about them.
[01:07:57]  Like, we knew that the Taliban was like this and Al Qaeda was like this.
[01:08:01]  The Iraqis were like this.
[01:08:03]  Now the Iranians are like this.
[01:08:05]  Like, this is all foreseeable.
[01:08:07]  I just, the whole thing is very stressful.
[01:08:09]  Let's keep going because there's a lot more to discuss and there's no good answer.
[01:08:12]  Let's spend a minute on what the, on the rescue of the troops because that actually is very, very cool.
[01:08:17]  Awesome.
[01:08:17]  So, this effort to go in and get our soldier who abandoned his, you know, he ejected out of his, Plane that was going down.
[01:08:27]  He is a crew member.
[01:08:29]  That's how Trump described it.
[01:08:31]  We got him.
[01:08:32]  My fellow Americans, over the past several hours, the U.S. military pulled off one of the most daring search and rescue ops in U.S. history for one of our incredible crew member officers, who also happens to be a highly respected colonel.
[01:08:41]  I'm thrilled to let you know he's now safe and sound.
[01:08:45]  He was never truly alone because his commander in chief, secretary of war, and chairman of the Joint Chiefs and fellow warfighters were monitoring his location 24 7.
[01:08:52]  And then he says that the military sent dozens of aircraft armed.
[01:08:57]  With the most lethal weapons in the world to retrieve him.
[01:08:59]  He sustained injuries, but will be just fine.
[01:09:04]  And then the details are just quickly, he ejected, he hid in a mountain crevice in a location initially unknown to either Americans trying to rescue him or Iranians trying to capture him.
[01:09:15]  This is per the New York Times and Axios.
[01:09:17]  He's a weapons system officer.
[01:09:19]  He only had a pistol to defend himself.
[01:09:22]  He was equipped with a beacon and a secure communications device, but he restricted the use of his beacon because he was worried about the Iranians detecting it.

=== Intelligence Forces Monitor Location (14:29) ===

[01:09:30]  Per a senior U.S. official to The Times, the airman evaded Iranian forces for more than 24 hours, at one point hiking up a 7,000 foot ridgeline.
[01:09:38]  He was shot down in a region of Iran where there is significant opposition to the Iranian government, reports The Times.
[01:09:44]  And he may have been able to rely on locals for shelter, though that's unclear.
[01:09:48]  We don't know.
[01:09:49]  Per a senior administration official to The Times, the CIA initiated a deception campaign to try to confuse Iranian forces.
[01:09:58]  The agency ultimately found the airman's hiding place.
[01:10:00]  They don't.
[01:10:01]  Tell us how, which is probably smart.
[01:10:03]  Passing the info on to the Pentagon, which mounted the rescue operation, said this official.
[01:10:09]  The mission involved hundreds of special forces troops and other military personnel, dozens of U.S. warplanes, helicopters, and cyberspace and other intel capabilities.
[01:10:19]  It was a night mission that took commandos deep into enemy territory.
[01:10:23]  Navy SEAL Team 6 commandos extracted the officer.
[01:10:27]  Can you imagine this guy's face when SEAL Team 6 showed up to get him?
[01:10:32]  Such an awesome moment.
[01:10:33]  That's so great.
[01:10:35]  They don't leave anybody behind.
[01:10:36]  I mean, just ask Dakota Meyer.
[01:10:38]  That's how he got his Medal of Honor.
[01:10:40]  Just even the fallen, going back and risking his own life to get man after man after man.
[01:10:45]  Per a senior U.S. military official, commanders, as commandos converged on the downed airmen, they fired their weapons to keep Iranian forces away from the rescue site, but did not engage in a firefight with the Iranians.
[01:10:58]  So I guess there was no return fire.
[01:11:00]  Then the transport planes that were going to carry the commandos and the airmen to safety got stuck at a remote base in Iran.
[01:11:06]  They decided to fly in three new planes.
[01:11:09]  To extract all of our guys and gals.
[01:11:12]  And then they blew up the two disabled planes rather than have them fall into Iranian hands.
[01:11:17]  One other detail per Axios, before or right after the soldier ejected, he said the phrase, God is good.
[01:11:30]  They say he is a religious person.
[01:11:32]  Trump erroneously reported as, Power be to God.
[01:11:36]  Close, close.
[01:11:38]  Good old Trump.
[01:11:39]  He, he, he.
[01:11:42]  Hit the eject button and then said, MAGA!
[01:11:48]  But it was God is good.
[01:11:50]  And as for the Israelis, Trump said they helped, the IDF helped the US military, quote, a little bit.
[01:11:56]  So in any event, he's.
[01:11:58]  He's safe, thank God, and out of there.
[01:12:01]  Like, that's one thing you can't begrudge anybody who's been conducting this war just the absolute belief in the power of the US military, the precision, the extraordinary abilities to go in there at night.
[01:12:13]  I mean, this is Iran.
[01:12:14]  This is Iran.
[01:12:14]  Yeah.
[01:12:15]  It's not Kuwait.
[01:12:16]  It's not friendly territory that could potentially still be targeted.
[01:12:20]  In the heart of Iran, they found this guy somehow.
[01:12:23]  Who knows whether he turned on that beacon or not?
[01:12:25]  Without losing anyone.
[01:12:26]  Not a one.
[01:12:27]  Apparently, without a firefight.
[01:12:28]  That's remarkable.
[01:12:29]  And he was missing, as far as we know, for a long time.
[01:12:32]  This wasn't like a half an hour.
[01:12:34]  Yeah.
[01:12:34]  This was what, probably more than 24 hours.
[01:12:37]  More than 24 hours, because it happened overnight, Thursday into Friday, right?
[01:12:42]  I think, pretty sure.
[01:12:43]  So that means they have, Iran has time to look for him.
[01:12:47]  The propaganda win from the IRGC's perspective, if you can, I mean, that he was in such high demand to say the very, very least.
[01:12:55]  So that we could, without having troops on the ground, from what we know of the CIA's infiltration of Iran, it's, Mostly reliant on Mossad.
[01:13:04]  So it's an interesting point about IDF that there's Israeli intelligence in Iran, that it's often what we rely on for our own intelligence about Iran.
[01:13:11]  So I wonder if that was the reference to the IDF.
[01:13:14]  I don't know.
[01:13:15]  They have their own intelligence forces.
[01:13:17]  I think they said, I read that it wasn't intel.
[01:13:20]  The little help that he said the IDF provided, I read he said it wasn't intel.
[01:13:23]  So that's all the more impressive from the CIA.
[01:13:26]  And to coordinate with the Pentagon like that, I mean, you can't take it away from Midnight Hammer.
[01:13:31]  You can't take it away from Venezuela.
[01:13:32]  You can't take it away from this the precision, the expertise, the bravery.
[01:13:36]  That's incredible from these men and women who risked their own lives for one man.
[01:13:42]  Yeah.
[01:13:42]  I mean, amazing.
[01:13:44]  And for the embarrassment that would be given to the country.
[01:13:49]  No, it would have been a huge propaganda win for the Iranians to get this guy.
[01:13:52]  They could have made him say anything.
[01:13:54]  It would have been a nightmare.
[01:13:55]  You know, the Iranians should be glad because one hair on that guy's head and it would have changed the war sentiment over here.
[01:14:01]  Well, and also, this is how conflicts escalate into I'm not sending ground troops, I'm not sending ground troops, and then, oh, we have to send ground troops.
[01:14:11]  And then more die, and then more have to be sent.
[01:14:13]  If any of us saw this guy being used as propaganda on some hostage tape, I think the war would immediately have 90% support.
[01:14:21]  Like, go get him.
[01:14:22]  We're not allowing that shit.
[01:14:24]  That's how it happens.
[01:14:24]  So, thank God for many reasons.
[01:14:26]  Trump just said that the rescue mission for the second Air Force officer involved 155 aircraft.
[01:14:33]  Wow, 155 aircraft.
[01:14:36]  So, we do have sky dominance.
[01:14:38]  Unfortunately, they're still able to have some impact over there, which is how that.
[01:14:43]  That jet went down.
[01:14:44]  Two of them went down on Friday.
[01:14:45]  That's a question because the president had said, what did he say?
[01:14:48]  Total air dominance a couple of days before.
[01:14:50]  So it's still clearly we do, as in terms of like their air force.
[01:14:56]  But like, I mean, they still have some maybe surface to air missiles.
[01:15:00]  We're not sure what they're using, but they got that jet down with.
[01:15:04]  And then they also got, they hit the, I think it was the helicopters, at least one of them that were coming for the jet to help the jet.
[01:15:11]  But no one killed, as far as we know, which is remarkable.
[01:15:14]  So Godspeed to that officer and his family.
[01:15:18]  And, you know, it's a minor miracle that he's okay.
[01:15:21]  It really is.
[01:15:21]  So, God bless all the troops.
[01:15:23]  We're still rooting for them.
[01:15:24]  We want it to end, want them to come home to safety.
[01:15:26]  Let's declare victory however we can and get out of there.
[01:15:28]  Honestly, I don't care.
[01:15:29]  Yeah.
[01:15:30]  Well, because the longer it goes on, the more opportunities for escalation come up.
[01:15:34]  Exactly like this one last week.
[01:15:35]  Yes.
[01:15:36]  It was heart stopping for everyone when they heard about this.
[01:15:39]  But part of the reason is because it can keep leading you down the road politically.
[01:15:45]  Not going well.
[01:15:46]  But at least now we have some bad news for the Democrats, too.
[01:15:51]  Same as any day.
[01:15:52]  Yeah.
[01:15:52]  But I mean, particularly bad.
[01:15:55]  I'll start with the bad.
[01:15:56]  This is just one from Harry Anton on the independents.
[01:15:59]  This is one of the reasons why, not the primary, but one of them that we need to wrap this thing up ASAP.
[01:16:05]  This is real.
[01:16:06]  It's not fake polls.
[01:16:07]  It's all the polls are showing this.
[01:16:09]  But here's the latest SOT 5.
[01:16:11]  If there's one big number from this, it's that Donald Trump now has the worst net approval rating among independents.
[01:16:18]  Of any president ever at this point in term two.
[01:16:21]  He is worse than Richard Nixon, who would be going adios amigos in a few months back in 1974 and term two.
[01:16:28]  Look at this minus 45 points, worse than George W. Bush at this point in term two.
[01:16:33]  The Iraq War was weighting him down at minus 37, and worse than Richard Nixon when, of course, there were all those impeachment hearings back in 1974 at minus 36 points.
[01:16:42]  He's nearly 10 points worse among independents on his net approval rating at this point in term two, Donald Trump is, than Richard Nixon.
[01:16:49]  My goodness gracious.
[01:16:52]  Fisher Nixon.
[01:16:54]  Richard Nixon got a bad deal.
[01:16:55]  I was going to say it, but anyway, okay.
[01:16:57]  Whoa, you should do a true crime style special on that.
[01:17:01]  I know.
[01:17:01]  I have a lot of thoughts.
[01:17:02]  In fact, I am going to, there's somebody in particular who I have in mind to book on this.
[01:17:06]  Excellent.
[01:17:06]  Yeah, when the news cycle quiets down.
[01:17:08]  I think I know who it is.
[01:17:10]  Yeah, I bet you do.
[01:17:12]  Every year we go skiing on President's Day sometimes and we wear ski jerseys that I had made that have the president's, like, various.
[01:17:22]  Presidents on the back, like their pictures.
[01:17:24]  You mean your kids do this?
[01:17:25]  I do.
[01:17:27]  We've got Reagan, we've got Lincoln, and Little Thatcher wears Nixon.
[01:17:34]  Coolest kid on the slope.
[01:17:36]  No question.
[01:17:36]  Doug went for Martin Van Buren just to confuse people.
[01:17:40]  Nobody knows what they did because it's got their pictures on it.
[01:17:42]  Like you can see that it's one of those old timey white hair photos.
[01:17:45]  People are so confused they see Doug's.
[01:17:47]  He's custom?
[01:17:48]  Yes.
[01:17:49]  Such a waste of money.
[01:17:50]  Custom.
[01:17:52]  Who the hell knows what Martin Van Buren did?
[01:17:54]  I mean, not me.
[01:17:55]  Not me.
[01:17:56]  We're bringing him back.
[01:17:57]  Good.
[01:17:58]  It's about time.
[01:17:59]  Anyway, all the lifties will say to Thatcher, like, you're, oh, are you a Nixon fan?
[01:18:03]  And Thatcher's now gotten to the point where he knows to say, it's complicated.
[01:18:09]  It's framed.
[01:18:10]  Anyway, so that's bad.
[01:18:12]  Those are some bad old numbers there, Am, on the independents.
[01:18:16]  And it makes you a little concerned about 2026 and the Senate.
[01:18:19]  Yeah.
[01:18:20]  Well, the Senate, I don't think is getting enough attention.
[01:18:23]  There are races.
[01:18:24]  I mean, so first of all, the polls that are coming out of Maine, it's very early, and Susan Collins has proven enormously resilient.
[01:18:30]  Dems fielded a, this is controversial, but I do think Graham Platner is a strong candidate.
[01:18:35]  So I do think Maine is on the.
[01:18:36]  I agree with you.
[01:18:37]  I think Dan Osborne is a strong candidate.
[01:18:39]  He's an independent, but he's running in Nebraska.
[01:18:41]  I don't think Texas is on the table, but I think there are a couple of other places where it's, I mean, it's not, it's looking like things are a toss up.
[01:18:49]  Ohio could possibly be one of those places when you have numbers like this.
[01:18:53]  Because what I was going to say is looking at that, when Harry Anton talked about the George W. Bush numbers, that is such a visceral memory for all of us.
[01:19:01]  The way the culture turned against the Republican Party during that time period, it doesn't just infect the president.
[01:19:08]  And that's doubly bad for Trump because he needs that coalition.
[01:19:13]  To come out for him.
[01:19:15]  This has always been the case.
[01:19:16]  Yeah.
[01:19:17]  It's very hard to do when he's not on the ballot.
[01:19:19]  And it's going to be even harder when he's not on the ballot and people don't like him.
[01:19:24]  I mean, unless they surprise us and say this will be the first year Trump's not on the ballot, is a good thing.
[01:19:29]  I don't think so.
[01:19:30]  Interesting point.
[01:19:30]  But I don't know because it doesn't motivate.
[01:19:32]  You need the base to be really, really excited about Trump.
[01:19:35]  And the Republicans don't have their own independent brand.
[01:19:38]  Right.
[01:19:38]  And if he's telling you to go support Susan Collins, you need that to work.
[01:19:43]  You need that to make the mom who's busy with drop off.
[01:19:46]  You need her to say, I'm actually going to go to the polls today.
[01:19:48]  It's important.
[01:19:49]  There isn't the motivating factor right now, other than they're not Democrats.
[01:19:54]  You know, it's like there was a motivating factor in 2024, for sure.
[01:19:58]  You know, Trump's agenda was so different from that of Kamala Harris.
[01:20:02]  I don't regret voting for Trump one bit.
[01:20:04]  I mean, what that want, she wanted to cut off the body parts of young children.
[01:20:08]  She's a fucking psycho.
[01:20:11]  Okay, so at least Trump's got, I disagree with the war, but at least he's got a rationale for it that he's pursuing that you could like say, okay, I understand, sort of.
[01:20:19]  It's kind of been all over the board.
[01:20:20]  Trying to follow it.
[01:20:21]  But there's a few reasons, real reasons that have been offered.
[01:20:25]  So the Democrats have not yet gotten to the place where the country's looking at them as like, okay, you're a reasonable alternative.
[01:20:32]  Right.
[01:20:32]  That's sanity.
[01:20:33]  Right.
[01:20:33]  Now, I will say, when I look at like 2024 candidates, I continue to hear Rahm Emanuel say smart things that I find like kind of reasonable.
[01:20:40]  I realize there's a whole history there.
[01:20:43]  But he is the only Democrat I see that's making some sense.
[01:20:48]  Like he says things that Republicans could get behind.
[01:20:51]  He'll never make it through the primary process.
[01:20:54]  Anybody who's sensible doesn't, on Team Blue in particular.
[01:20:57]  But here's what they're up against.
[01:20:59]  We'll stick with Harry Enton.
[01:21:01]  Why not?
[01:21:03]  SOP 58.
[01:21:04]  Look at this net favorability.
[01:21:06]  Party ahead at this point, midterm of years with the GOP president.
[01:21:09]  In 2018, Dems were up by 12.
[01:21:11]  In 2006, on net favorability, which party you like more, Dems were ahead by 18.
[01:21:15]  Republicans are actually ahead on net favorability at this point by five points.
[01:21:20]  So Democrats are just simply put running behind their previous benchmarks, and they need to be running well ahead of them if they want to take back the United States Senate, given that map.
[01:21:28]  To be clear, both parties are wildly unfavorable right now.
[01:21:32]  However, Democrats are even more unpopular than Republicans.
[01:21:36]  Some of these charts.
[01:21:36]  Yeah.
[01:21:37]  All right.
[01:21:37]  There's some good news.
[01:21:39]  They hate both.
[01:21:40]  Parties, but they hate the Dems a little more.
[01:21:43]  That's amazing, by the way.
[01:21:45]  Right?
[01:21:46]  Like, how is it possible that no one likes Trump?
[01:21:49]  Trump is the most polarizing figure in modern politics other than George W. Bush.
[01:21:54]  Yeah.
[01:21:54]  And he is now on W. Bush levels of popularity, and Democrats are still five points below.
[01:21:59]  And when I checked RCP last, their averages compared to the 2018 midterms where Dems had that blue tsunami.
[01:22:07]  I think it was even Harry Anton that called it that.
[01:22:09]  Right now, Republicans.
[01:22:12]  Are the it's not as bad as it was then, so the margin is still not as strong for Democrats as it was when they had their blue tsunami year.
[01:22:20]  And I think some of that is hangover from 2024 because not all of them have figured out how to talk like Rahm Emanuel on culture questions.
[01:22:27]  They're crazy.
[01:22:28]  All I think about when I think about the Democrats is those very unattractive people in Minneapolis.
[01:22:32]  That's when I think Democrat, that's what I think.
[01:22:36]  I think them, and I think crazy Alyssa Slotkin, like lecturing Pete Hegseth, like, I know, I know, you've done your genuflection, that's smug.
[01:22:45]  Arrogant, I'm better than you.
[01:22:47]  I look down my nose on you, even though you've done three tours of duty.
[01:22:52]  Like, F you.
[01:22:53]  I like that to me.
[01:22:55]  I could never vote for never.
[01:22:57]  I mean, honestly, Trump could drop a nuke and I'd still vote Republican over those people because they want to.
[01:23:03]  I'm a Fifth Avenue voter.
[01:23:05]  In some ways, I really am.
[01:23:06]  But honestly, what they want to do is nuke our own country.
[01:23:09]  You know, it's like the open border, what they're doing to children, all that stuff is still, they would do it all if put back in power.
[01:23:16]  And I think most Republicans know that, which is why we have.
[01:23:20]  That soundbite from Harry Enton.
[01:23:21]  And here's a little bit more from him on how the Democrats' own voters feel about them in SOT 6.
[01:23:27]  You might say, okay, well, at least Dems like Democrats.
[01:23:30]  Uh-uh, not the case.
[01:23:31]  Look at this.
[01:23:32]  The majority of Democrats are independents who lean Democrats.
[01:23:35]  Look at this.
[01:23:37]  55% say no, congressional Democrats do not have the right priorities.
[01:23:41]  And then you just see a minority, 45% of Democrats say that congressional Democrats have the right priorities.
[01:23:47]  This to me just jumps out of the screen because it screams primary challenges all over the map.
[01:23:52]  And it says that even if Democrats don't like Donald Trump, they don't like their own party either when it comes to Congress.
[01:23:58]  And overall, I mean, my goodness gracious.

=== Democrats Face Litmus Test (05:11) ===

[01:24:00]  The bottom has fallen out.
[01:24:02]  The bottom has fallen out.
[01:24:03]  Minus four points.
[01:24:05]  That is Democrats.
[01:24:07]  Democrats own net approval of their own congressional leaders.
[01:24:11]  Even Democrats don't like their own leaders when it comes to Congress.
[01:24:15]  And overall, of course, the numbers are just absolutely awful.
[01:24:17]  So Democrat on Democrat crime, absolutely.
[01:24:20]  This to me screams, again, primary challenges across the map.
[01:24:24]  And it screams to me, hey, when it comes to those next leadership elections, maybe something might be cooking.
[01:24:30]  Not just the leadership elections.
[01:24:33]  That's reflecting just how loathsome most of these Democrats are, especially the ones in Congress.
[01:24:39]  It's such a mess for Democrats for a couple of reasons.
[01:24:42]  First of all, those are Tea Party level numbers.
[01:24:44]  And there was a poll that came out last July that showed it almost exactly mirroring Tea Party era for Republicans.
[01:24:50]  And what that means, to Harry Anton's point, is primary challenges.
[01:24:54]  We're already starting to see that mostly it's falling along the Israel line for Democrats, which is interesting because.
[01:25:00]  A lot of their lack of appeal to average Americans isn't just about that.
[01:25:05]  I mean, it might be some of that.
[01:25:06]  If you're kind of an independent leaning Democrat, people don't agree with them on their gender, sex, and gender policy, and they don't agree with them on the border.
[01:25:15]  And they have not come up with any suitable answers for the independent leaning Democrats on either of those questions.
[01:25:21]  They've tried and then gotten shouted down, and their own staffers have quit, like in the case of Seth Moulton and just had to walk it back.
[01:25:28]  Gavin Newsom had to walk it back.
[01:25:29]  So, so weak.
[01:25:31]  It's a litmus test for voters.
[01:25:32]  And just in the same way they see Israel as a litmus test, they want to know that you are being honest with them.
[01:25:39]  And if you are still saying that men can become women, if you are still not coming up with an answer, what is your policy for the border?
[01:25:46]  They can never answer that question in a way that is satisfactory.
[01:25:49]  Rahm Emanuel did.
[01:25:50]  He said, I would leave President Trump's border policies in place.
[01:25:55]  Not on deportation, but on the border.
[01:25:58]  He said, I'd leave it in place.
[01:25:59]  And he actually was just in the news last week saying, Israel has too much influence over American domestic policy.
[01:26:06]  Interesting.
[01:26:06]  I know.
[01:26:07]  Very interesting from Rahm Emanuel.
[01:26:09]  And on top of that, the border situation, like Joe Biden, the last year of his presidency, he said, Oh, you have to do this with legislation.
[01:26:16]  This can't be done with EOs.
[01:26:18]  Then he does it with EOs around in a day, June of 2024, right before the election.
[01:26:23]  Oh, yeah.
[01:26:23]  Oh, yeah.
[01:26:24]  Yeah.
[01:26:24]  Oh, Biden.
[01:26:25]  Yeah.
[01:26:26]  And that is the only reason he could get away with that because they knew they had a tough election coming up.
[01:26:30]  Of course.
[01:26:30]  We all knew.
[01:26:31]  Right.
[01:26:32]  And now they can't go back to it.
[01:26:33]  And that's why his Policy was such a disaster in the first place because they were coasting on the abolish ice vibes of Trump 1.0.
[01:26:40]  Yeah.
[01:26:40]  And then it felt like Biden had permission to just literally open the border.
[01:26:43]  I know.
[01:26:44]  To be more humane.
[01:26:44]  Yeah.
[01:26:45]  Until he didn't.
[01:26:45]  And that's about to happen again because nobody has a plan, I guess, except for Rahm Emanuel.
[01:26:49]  I know.
[01:26:50]  To be more humane.
[01:26:50]  Tell it to Sheridan Gorman.
[01:26:52]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:26:53]  It wasn't more humane.
[01:26:54]  You just made sure a whole bunch of Americans got killed by illegals.
[01:26:56]  It's disgusting what Joe Biden did.
[01:26:58]  And Trump, yes, he did one fig leaf in June to try to make himself look a little better.
[01:27:02]  And then Trump really did close up the border.
[01:27:05]  Look, I.
[01:27:06]  I would like there to be an era in which we have some sane Democrats who can make it into the real contest and be seriously considered so that the risks are not.
[01:27:16]  That's great.
[01:27:17]  So it's not like if Trump had lost, I really do feel like the country would have been, I don't want to say it would be lost.
[01:27:24]  That's too dramatic, but it would be changed forever.
[01:27:29]  It already was, thanks to Joe Biden.
[01:27:30]  Like, we're never going to get those 10 million plus illegals out.
[01:27:34]  Look what happened.
[01:27:35]  We just tried to get 1 million out by having this more aggressive immigration deportation policy come to major American cities.
[01:27:43]  It caused absolute chaos.
[01:27:45]  And that was actually the beginning of Trump's falling poll numbers because people didn't like to see it.
[01:27:48]  The media, of course, misrepresented it.
[01:27:51]  And he had to back off.
[01:27:53]  And now he's just doing worst first.
[01:27:54]  But even that is going to be a real challenge.
[01:27:56]  We're not going to have those 10 million.
[01:27:57]  Those 10 million are here to stay.
[01:27:59]  And the Supreme Court is going to rule that their anchor babies give them the babies the right to citizenship and that they can stay here.
[01:28:07]  We can't have another Democrat in the White House until that whole thing is reversed somehow.
[01:28:13]  We've amended the 14th Amendment to make clear that birthright citizenship is not what they say it is.
[01:28:19]  We've built a wall.
[01:28:21]  We've imposed e verify so that these people self deport because they literally cannot get jobs.
[01:28:27]  Every employer will figure out whether they are an illegal and tell them no, or they face massive penalties.
[01:28:33]  There are ways Trump's not unleashing those ways.
[01:28:35]  I know a lot of hardcore Republicans who really want e verify across the nation.
[01:28:39]  He won't do it.
[01:28:40]  He's from the hotel industry and he's like agriculture.
[01:28:44]  And these are a lot of his donors who use illegals.
[01:28:48]  They say that they have to.
[01:28:49]  That's bullshit.
[01:28:50]  They don't have to.
[01:28:51]  Anyway, these are.
[01:28:53]  These are deal breakers, and the Democrats will make those problems worse again.
[01:28:57]  Reminding young people, this actually is a problem you need to focus on.
[01:29:00]  Just because you had Trump in the office for four years doesn't mean it's been solved forever.
[01:29:05]  Anyway, hopefully that's already being factored into those Harry Anton numbers.
[01:29:08]  Okay, quick break.
[01:29:08]  We are back with more.
[01:29:09]  Don't go away after this.

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[01:32:18]  Emily Jashinsky is back with me.
[01:32:20]  And if you're wondering why we cannot vote Democrat and why we should believe those Harry Enton numbers, I'm going to show you proof.
[01:32:28]  Sot eight, Megan Rapino.
[01:32:31]  This committee is framing it as based in science, which it's not.
[01:32:36]  And this will ultimately just prevent people from competing within the women's category that they feel like have an unfair advantage.
[01:32:46]  It's just really hateful.
[01:32:47]  It's like there's been so few athletes.
[01:32:52]  That are trans are competing as trans, and it's like so blatant on its face.
[01:32:58]  It's just a total act like acquiescence to the Trump administration and to really right wing conservative politics that really is just like bringing down so much hate against such a small percentage of people who are just trying to live their life.
[01:33:17]  So it's just horrible, and I'm just sickened by it, really.
[01:33:24]  She's very upset about the IOC, the Olympic Committee International, making it clear that biological men will no longer be permitted to compete in women's sports.
[01:33:33]  And it's because it just only happens to such a small group of girls that they should just suck it up and suffer.
[01:33:39]  They should lose their gold medals.
[01:33:41]  They should take the beating in the face by a man in the boxing ring and quit all the whining like me, Megan Rapino, sitting with my millions and my endorsements having made it to the top.
[01:33:53]  That you can hear the sound of the ladder being pulled up, Emily.
[01:33:56]  That's infuriating because it's such an egregious moving of the goalposts.
[01:34:01]  Like, this the line was, it's fine, it's not a real advantage.
[01:34:06]  And now the line is, oh, it might be a real advantage, but you're still going to have to put up with it.
[01:34:11]  It's just so few.
[01:34:13]  Right.
[01:34:13]  Don't worry about it.
[01:34:14]  It's just a couple of people.
[01:34:15]  But again, before it was, there's no medical, scientific, like we were listening to that for however many years.
[01:34:21]  And I remember interviewing one of the Connecticut track girls years ago.
[01:34:26]  It was probably like 2020.
[01:34:27]  And asking, how is this affecting?
[01:34:30]  Because there were two, this year, there were two men who were competing in the women's boys who were competing in the women's.
[01:34:36]  Who had done nothing to handle their testosterone at all.
[01:34:39]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:34:40]  And I remember asking, is it just like one or two that'll upset the scholarship system?
[01:34:45]  Right.
[01:34:45]  And the answer I got was yes, because of course it does.
[01:34:48]  Yeah, because he never won.
[01:34:49]  Exactly.
[01:34:50]  And so as soon as you start moving down the ranks in all of these different matches and statewide and whatever, all it takes is a couple of boys competing in one.
[01:34:58]  State, a small state like Connecticut, that's really all it takes to screw it up for everybody, let alone it's obviously ridiculous on its face, but it is so obnoxious that after for years saying it's not a problem, it's not a problem, foisting this on the public, then blaming conservatives for saying, oh, hey, we want to talk about this culture war issue.
[01:35:17]  This is wrong.
[01:35:18]  After you forced us to deal with it.
[01:35:20]  Yeah.
[01:35:20]  Like, give me a.
[01:35:21]  It was not the norm.
[01:35:22]  You changed the norm and we objected because this isn't normal.
[01:35:25]  There's nothing normal.
[01:35:26]  And she talks about it so cavalierly.
[01:35:27]  I think about the girl, she's never been publicly identified in Lowell, Massachusetts, who was on the field hockey team.
[01:35:32]  And got whacked by a boy in the mouth so hard her teeth got knocked out.
[01:35:39]  And it wasn't just that girl's horror in the pain and the dentistry she would have to go through, it was the horror of every girl on the field who was shocked and genuinely disturbed to see the bloody damage that had been done to their teammate by a boy who had no business playing field hockey again.
[01:36:00]  Fuck Megan Rapine.
[01:36:02]  You know what?
[01:36:02]  After Easter, I promised myself I was going to.
[01:36:04]  Rain in the swearing.
[01:36:05]  I did.
[01:36:06]  I was feeling very godly, even though we didn't get the communion.
[01:36:09]  Oh, that's it.
[01:36:10]  Yeah, maybe that's my problem.
[01:36:12]  Dang.
[01:36:13]  Anyway, shame on you, Megan Rapino.
[01:36:16]  There we go.
[01:36:16]  Shame on you.
[01:36:17]  Also, who cares?
[01:36:18]  I don't even.
[01:36:19]  Megan Rapino is so much less of a threat now in 2020, whatever year it is, than she was in 2019.
[01:36:24]  I know.
[01:36:24]  It's like, it's unstoppable.
[01:36:26]  No one cares.
[01:36:27]  No one cares.
[01:36:28]  You pushed this.
[01:36:29]  It worked on the institutions for a couple of years, and then everybody got wise to it.
[01:36:33]  So you making this argument now.
[01:36:35]  Does it still bother me because it's wrong?
[01:36:37]  It will still probably affect girls in blue states that have to put it.
[01:36:40]  Yes, absolutely.
[01:36:40]  It still bothers me.
[01:36:41]  And your story is a great one, the Lowell Mass one, because that's one boy.
[01:36:45]  That's all it took was a swing from one boy.
[01:36:48]  It doesn't, her point is irrelevant.
[01:36:50]  Yeah.
[01:36:50]  But it's just a few.
[01:36:51]  Doesn't she care?
[01:36:51]  I'd love to see her look that girl in the face and say, like, so what?
[01:36:55]  It's happening so infrequently.
[01:36:56]  It's not an issue.
[01:36:57]  Good.
[01:36:58]  Okay.
[01:36:58]  Tell it to that girl.
[01:36:59]  I mean, the amount of trauma, like emotional trauma, not to mention the physical, and having to deal with that would be truly horrifying.
[01:37:06]  She's not the only reason.
[01:37:08]  This woman happens to be married to the likely Democrat nominee, I think it's fair to say.
[01:37:12]  Her name is Jennifer Newsom, SOT9.
[01:37:15]  I've given our boys dolls.
[01:37:18]  Even if they tear the head off, I've given them dolls to learn that care and caregiving is not just an activity that's reserved for women, but that it's also an activity that is a responsibility of men.
[01:37:33]  What I've done with both my daughters and my sons is if I'm reading a book and the protagonist is a male, I just change the he to a she.
[01:37:42]  And it just normalizes for my sons in particular.
[01:37:45]  I don't even just do it for my girls, I do it for my sons because I want them to see that women can be the center of a story.
[01:37:51]  That women matter.
[01:37:53]  Oh my Lord.
[01:37:54]  That women are interesting.
[01:37:57]  At the end of the day, we're all kind of like in this place in history, maybe, where we're recognizing what it is to ultimately deconstruct all these gender roles and ultimately be human.
[01:38:09]  And that's exciting to me.
[01:38:14]  Oh my God.
[01:38:15]  That was great.
[01:38:17]  She lives in California, she was in San Francisco.
[01:38:21]  Is she having difficulty finding books in which female protagonists are present?
[01:38:27]  Like, she should walk a mile in my shoes on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.
[01:38:31]  They're everywhere.
[01:38:32]  That's all you can find.
[01:38:32]  They got rid of all the books where the males are the protagonists.
[01:38:35]  Too many women, first of all.
[01:38:36]  I'm sick of hearing about women.
[01:38:38]  I'm sick and tired.
[01:38:39]  They all sound like that.
[01:38:40]  And the notion that you have to teach boys how to treat women well by giving them dolls, otherwise, they won't be caretakers.
[01:38:49]  What are you talking about?
[01:38:50]  Boys learn about caretaking.
[01:38:52]  From a loving mother who was caretaking to them.
[01:38:56]  You fool.
[01:38:57]  It's not from giving them a fucking doll.
[01:38:59]  Again, a doll.
[01:39:01]  A doll.
[01:39:02]  Jennifer.
[01:39:03]  This stuff also has real consequences for boys.
[01:39:06]  It's hilarious to hear it, but when it translates into policy, I mean, Christina Hoff sometimes wrote a whole book about this called War Against Boys.
[01:39:12]  It was my college internship, it was helping on the re release of that book.
[01:39:15]  And you go through it over and over again.
[01:39:17]  You're like, yes, recess completely has been clipped up.
[01:39:23]  You have less recess now.
[01:39:24]  There are all kinds of like little policies on the state level that have made boys hate school.
[01:39:29]  And some of it is straight because of that mentality, which we've been going through for how many years now?
[01:39:33]  Decades now.
[01:39:34]  And it's boys are having worse outcomes.
[01:39:36]  Why?
[01:39:37]  Because you're feminizing their environment.
[01:39:39]  And she's totally talking about boys as though they're still completely dominant.
[01:39:44]  It's a complete patriarchy out there.
[01:39:46]  You know, we're getting, we have two kids in high school right now.
[01:39:49]  Our boy is the oldest, our daughter is a year behind him.
[01:39:53]  And you look at like the college admissions rates, you'd much rather be a girl.
[01:39:57]  Oh, yeah.
[01:39:58]  You'd much rather be a girl right now.
[01:40:00]  It's like she's the 1950s called, and they'd like their culture back, Jennifer.
[01:40:05]  Truly, like, I can't imagine what these boys are like.
[01:40:08]  And meanwhile, Gavin Newsom is going to come out into the scene and try to pretend that he's like some badass, like tough guy.
[01:40:13]  I guarantee you he's going to be doing some of the Tim Walz camo shit because he needs to.
[01:40:18]  He's already got like leftist feminists who want like a hot whatever.
[01:40:23]  So now he's going to have to telegraph a little bit, I'm a man's man.
[01:40:26]  That's why he interviewed with Charlie.
[01:40:27]  That's why he interviewed with Steve Bannon.
[01:40:29]  Right.
[01:40:29]  He wants to do some reach out to Republicans.
[01:40:31]  And like most Democrats, he's not going to understand them.
[01:40:34]  And he's going to think it requires him to wear camo.
[01:40:36]  And he's got this hot mess of a liability on the other side of him, much like Tim Waltz couldn't make us believe that because he was gay, but also his wife.
[01:40:47]  Well, you know what the Tim Waltz camo hat, you know what that was for.
[01:40:51]  That was you tape your tampon under the brim.
[01:40:53]  That's what that was.
[01:40:55]  A lot of people never picked up on that, but that's what it was for.
[01:40:58]  Is it, this is what I was just going to ask, is it his son with Jennifer Siebel Newsom, who was, Oh, Charlie Kirkless?
[01:41:03]  Yes, yes.
[01:41:04]  So that's what playing with it, forcing the dolls on them will get you.
[01:41:08]  Exactly.
[01:41:08]  Like, are they even listening to themselves?
[01:41:11]  All of the studies show that if you put little boys and little girls into a toy store, the boys will naturally go over to the trucks.
[01:41:19]  The girls will naturally go over to the dolls.
[01:41:22]  It's not because they're little sexist pigs when they come into the world.
[01:41:25]  There are certain things that are pre wired in us genetically.
[01:41:28]  And there's nothing wrong with that.
[01:41:29]  Boys should lean into their protector biology, and girls should lean into their Caretaking biology doesn't mean you can't do either, but society will teach them that there are other options available to them.
[01:41:44]  Society will teach them that it's not all killing prey or nurturing a baby.
[01:41:49]  I mean, like, I grew up in the 1970s.
[01:41:52]  Were things better for women in the 1970s than they are now?
[01:41:54]  No.
[01:41:54]  Somehow I figured it out, Jennifer, and so did you.
[01:41:57]  She's like not that much younger than I am.
[01:41:58]  I think she might be around my age.
[01:41:59]  But at least you weren't getting whacked in the face with field hockey sticks.
[01:42:03]  Yeah.
[01:42:03]  I mean, this is where that stuff starts because if you go back to the 80s and the 90s, this is how a lot of the feminists were talking, is that it was the pathologization.
[01:42:11]  I don't even know if that's a word of masculinity.
[01:42:14]  Treating healthy masculinity, not actual toxic masculinity, as a pathology.
[01:42:18]  Yes.
[01:42:18]  And that's how you end up saying, well, You just have to be feminized.
[01:42:23]  You must be feminized.
[01:42:24]  All the good men are feminized.
[01:42:26]  Exactly.
[01:42:27]  That's why her husband crosses his legs the way he does.
[01:42:31]  It's happened to him.
[01:42:32]  He's just a beautiful, beautiful man.
[01:42:34]  He is good looking.
[01:42:35]  I can't take that away from him.
[01:42:36]  He's too creepy for me.
[01:42:37]  He's like too American Psycho, which he's leaning into.

=== Trump Presser Pathologization (01:01) ===

[01:42:40]  Yes.
[01:42:41]  He does have a Patrick Bateman look about him.
[01:42:43]  I mean, I think unfortunately, people, we end where we began.
[01:42:47]  It's full circle.
[01:42:48]  People like attractive people.
[01:42:51]  They do well.
[01:42:52]  Attractive people tend to do well, they tend to do better in life.
[01:42:55]  I know.
[01:42:56]  And people who aren't as polished.
[01:42:57]  So we're going to need somebody over on Team Red who's like got it together.
[01:43:01]  That's why we should hope for JB Pritzker to win over Gavin Newsom or just stick with Kamala.
[01:43:06]  Give it another role.
[01:43:08]  We accept.
[01:43:09]  Emily, a pleasure, my friend.
[01:43:11]  Thank you, Megan.
[01:43:12]  So good to see you.
[01:43:12]  She's going to keep rolling.
[01:43:14]  She's doing the after show in a minute.
[01:43:16]  And we'll continue to monitor that Trump presser, among other things.
[01:43:23]  Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.
[01:43:25]  No BS, no agenda, and no fear.
[01:43:35]  The Lunners are the ones who can spare the Trumpf Bonus.
[01:43:40]  So much for the future.