The Megyn Kelly Show - 20210212_adam-carolla-on-covid-madness-aoc-and-whether-hell Aired: 2021-02-12 Duration: 01:19:05 === Free HR Audit at Bambi (03:17) === [00:00:00] And now, watch the Kicks. [00:00:01] Kicks can fertig grenzenless mangy selfies. [00:00:04] The suit, handling a quad exend in a crush detail. [00:00:07] Men may always have to betick here at a new stress. [00:00:10] Oducan alti handle for Kicks to tenno. [00:00:12] So, yeah, will come to grenzenless me beauty, connect or your betick. [00:00:17] Who's Kicks? [00:00:18] Beauty Unlimited. [00:00:20] Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations. [00:00:32] Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. [00:00:33] Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show. [00:00:35] Today on the program, Adam Carolla, and he's got some things to say. [00:00:40] We're going to be talking about COVID and the California shutdowns and Gavin Newsom's reversal. [00:00:46] Is this guy going to be recalled? [00:00:48] Is the pressure getting to him? [00:00:50] As the California school teachers, their unions still refuse to go back into the classroom. [00:00:56] We're going to talk to him about the New York Times firing a 45-year staffer. [00:01:02] The guy was with them for 45 years. [00:01:04] Years. [00:01:05] We'll get into why. [00:01:06] And on AOC's performance art, Adam has got some thoughts. [00:01:11] So stay tuned for him. [00:01:12] But first, when you're running a business, HR can kill you. [00:01:16] All right. [00:01:17] I mean, HR can fire you. [00:01:18] Not if you're the boss necessarily. [00:01:20] Anyway, I digress. [00:01:20] But anyway, HR is a pain in the you know what wrongful termination suits, minimum wage requirements, labor regulations. [00:01:26] No one wants to deal with all that red tape. [00:01:28] It's just a hassle to understand. [00:01:30] It goes on and on. [00:01:31] And by the way, HR manager salaries are not cheap, an average of $70,000 a year. 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[00:02:26] That's why you're paying them the $99 a month. [00:02:29] That's cheap, people. [00:02:31] $99 a month is cheap. [00:02:32] Month to month, the relationship is so you don't like the person, you can get rid of them. [00:02:36] No hidden fees and cancel any time. [00:02:38] And basically just let Bambi help you. [00:02:40] You can get your free HR audit today where they take a look at your business, see what you need by going to bambi.com slash MK. [00:02:46] Do it right now to schedule your free HR audit. [00:02:49] That's bambi.com slash MK. [00:02:51] Spell bam to the BEE.com slash MK. [00:02:56] And now Adam Carolla, author of I'm Your Emotional Support Animal, Navigating Our All Woke, No Joke Culture. [00:03:05] That's an amazing title. [00:03:08] of the Adam Carolla show, which is now on its 3000th episode. [00:03:15] How about that? === Teachers Union Monopoly Power (15:14) === [00:03:17] 3000. [00:03:18] This is episode 63. [00:03:21] I don't know if I've got that much to say. [00:03:24] I don't know how you keep the conversation going that long. [00:03:27] But maybe I'll find out. [00:03:29] We'll grow and we'll learn together as we listen now to Adam. [00:03:34] How are you? [00:03:35] I'm well. [00:03:35] How are you doing? [00:03:37] I'm great. [00:03:39] Good. [00:03:40] Feeling kind of happy about the Tom Brady win. [00:03:42] I don't know. [00:03:43] Seems like a nice guy. [00:03:44] Seems like he works hard for it. [00:03:46] He's easy to hate, but I kind of feel like he deserves it. [00:03:50] I agree. [00:03:51] Now, if you hate Tom Brady, you hate yourself for being lazy. [00:03:56] Exactly. [00:03:58] Exactly right. [00:03:59] First, let's talk about what's going on with COVID. [00:04:02] Newsome, Gavin Newsome, last week, your governor finally called for schools to reopen even before every teacher has been vaccinated. [00:04:11] And the teachers' unions, they're opposing. [00:04:14] The teachers' union out there is opposing. [00:04:15] The district superintendent out there in Southern California is saying the schools are just not going to reopen. [00:04:21] They're not, unless, quote, teachers are protected. [00:04:24] That's ambiguous. [00:04:26] And now there's a real question about schools there amongst other places. [00:04:30] Are ever going to reopen until we have complete herd immunity? [00:04:35] What do you think? [00:04:36] Well, you know, if you think about the way California rolls, the way California rolls is they set up these arbitrary color coded safety, you know, purple, yellow, red, magenta, whatever. [00:04:49] And then each one has a goal that's pretty much undoable. [00:04:54] They have like an unreachable goal, like, you know, less than seven people can be infected out of 2 million people on a three year period. [00:05:03] And then they go, We haven't met our goal. [00:05:06] Well, you set up an unrealistic goal. [00:05:09] So it'd be like you saying to your kids, or me saying to my daughter, You can never go to Disneyland or outside after the streetlights come on, or ever spend money at fast food until you get 100% on 20 trigonometry tests in a row. [00:05:30] And then at some point, she'd do 17 in a row and she'd go, Can we go to Disneyland? [00:05:34] And I'd go, Hey, babe, rules are rules. [00:05:37] We can't do it because I set up these very unrealistic goals. [00:05:40] So, California sets up crazy, unrealistic safety goals, and then we don't meet them. [00:05:46] Teachers, when this whole thing is said and done, the teachers are going to look like mega cowards to me. [00:05:53] Like in this world where we're calling people who work at Trader Joe's heroes, nurses heroes, and firemen heroes, and frontline, everyone's a hero. [00:06:03] There has to be a goat, and the goat are teachers. [00:06:06] They're not going back to work. [00:06:09] First off, why aren't they essential workers? [00:06:13] If garbage men and people who work at Trader Joe's and gas stations, if they're essential workers, how come teachers aren't essential workers? [00:06:22] I thought children were our future. [00:06:24] I thought this was the most important job. [00:06:26] Remember 10 minutes ago, we were calling teachers heroes? [00:06:29] Remember, they're all heroes? [00:06:31] What happened to the hero moniker? [00:06:33] They're hiding under their bed in a fetal position, hammering chest. [00:06:37] They need to get back to work. [00:06:39] And by the way, we don't need unions. [00:06:41] This is unions. [00:06:43] It's the unions that are screwing this thing up. [00:06:46] That's what's so irritating is because, number one, I think most teachers do want to teach. [00:06:52] It is their unions that are stepping in. [00:06:54] But number two, there are certainly some teachers because we saw them. [00:06:57] We saw them doing their interpretive dance in Chicago. [00:07:00] These young, able bodied teachers springing, leaping through the air in order to make clear that they could not possibly teach children. [00:07:08] Wait, why? [00:07:09] You're totally, totally perfectly healthy and you're. [00:07:12] Terrified you're going to get COVID in schools that have already prioritized you for the vaccine and sterilized the classrooms, et cetera. [00:07:21] So, but the thing that really ticks me off is you've got teachers like, we have a 65 year old guy who's been teaching my fifth grader and his classmates for a year. [00:07:29] He's fine. [00:07:30] He took the risk. [00:07:31] He's one of those people who could easily say, I'm going to stay at home. [00:07:34] He didn't. [00:07:34] He went, he understood there's next to no chance of him getting it or transmitting it inside the classroom, and he did the right thing. [00:07:42] And now we're supposed to look at these leapers. [00:07:45] Yeah, and say, why won't you keep them safe? [00:07:48] Well, it's so narcissistic. [00:07:50] It's so like insane. [00:07:52] Like, I'm not going back into the classroom until it's 100% safe for me. [00:07:57] Crazy narcissism. [00:07:59] And Again, what if everyone who worked at a supermarket took on that same posture? [00:08:05] But I've always had this bigger picture plan. [00:08:09] Like everyone says to me, What's going on with schools? [00:08:11] Like, what's happening with schools? [00:08:13] And it's like, What are we teaching our kids at these schools? [00:08:17] It's a little slice of socialism, is the way I look at it. [00:08:22] And it's first off, it's inhabited by people who don't want to go out and compete in the private sector, number one. [00:08:30] So it's a self selecting group of individuals. [00:08:34] Number two, if you think about it, just think about California, think about school teachers. [00:08:40] If you think about COVID in a sort of political terms, the people on the right are the least worried about it. [00:08:48] The people who are on the left are the most worried about it. [00:08:52] And the people that are furthest to the left are the teachers. [00:08:55] And those are the teachers that are teaching your kid every day. [00:08:59] So, what kind of politics do you think your kids are getting by the super scared leftists who won't go back into a classroom? [00:09:07] What else, pray tell? [00:09:09] May they be teaching your kids about the 1619 Project or any of this? [00:09:14] This is a tell. [00:09:16] This is a tell for who they are and what their politics are. [00:09:21] It's so true. [00:09:22] And they've had to show their card because the actual governor of California is saying, go back to school. [00:09:30] The city of San Francisco and the city of LA are saying to their specific districts, go back, open up the schools. [00:09:36] And they're refusing. [00:09:37] San Francisco just had to sue its own school district to make them reopen. [00:09:43] The district officials are refusing. [00:09:46] And meantime, Adam, meantime, at the federal level, we've got Joe Biden. [00:09:50] Remember, follow the science. [00:09:51] I'm going to follow the science. [00:09:53] Unlike President Trump, I will follow the science and I will listen to the experts. [00:09:57] And the CDC comes out with this just devastating for that far left position report saying there's basically no evidence that you're going to get COVID in school. [00:10:07] That schools have contributed in any meaningful way to community spread, and that all the data show it's much safer for the kids to be in school, and it's perfectly safe for the children. [00:10:18] And you know what happened after they said that? [00:10:20] The White House was asked about it. [00:10:22] Jen Psaki came out and said, Well, the woman who said that, she was speaking in her personal capacity. [00:10:28] Okay, it was the director of the CDC, and she was providing the guidance during a coronavirus task force briefing with reporters in her role as the head of the CDC. [00:10:38] We're going to follow the science and listen to the experts, folks are saying, Oh, she was speaking in her personal capacity. [00:10:44] And by the way, what is personal capacity? [00:10:48] I mean, when you're the head of the CDC or the spokesperson for the CDC, what does that even mean? [00:10:53] Like, those are her own private thoughts that she shared? [00:10:56] Like, we stole her diary or something? [00:11:01] Or she's a Scientologist and she's giving us some of her own, you know, homespun theories about life. [00:11:08] Like, what does personal capacity mean when you're standing at a podium? [00:11:13] With CDC signage behind you. [00:11:16] What does that mean? [00:11:17] That's her own deeply held personal opinion about COVID 19? [00:11:22] Like, what does that even mean? [00:11:24] It's a lie. [00:11:25] And if we were back in the Trump era, it would be added to the list of like number of lies told by this White House. [00:11:30] But no, keep going. [00:11:32] Yeah. [00:11:33] So Fauci, if he says something I disagree with, I can claim it's just his personal capacity. [00:11:39] He was speaking in, that was his pillow talk with him and his wife. [00:11:45] It's a lame statement. [00:11:47] It's nonsensical. [00:11:48] She was speaking in her personal capacity. [00:11:50] That doesn't even mean anything. [00:11:52] Right. [00:11:53] Right. [00:11:53] It's a dodge by this new White House press office that was going to be so transparent. [00:11:59] And, you know, there are. [00:12:00] they're already lying to us and we know it and and the stakes are high you know i know you've got two kids i've got three kids really pisses me off because it's like we did a long report last week based on a new york times in-depth piece talking about the suicide rate amongst these kids going up that the most recent cdc report found mental health related er visits are up 31 for kids between 12 and 17 up 24 for kids between 5 and 11. [00:12:30] five who are Like the opposite of super spreaders. [00:12:34] You're not going to get COVID from a kid between 5 and 11. [00:12:38] And they don't give a shit. [00:12:41] They won't go back to school. [00:12:42] The White House won't follow the science. [00:12:45] And when the CDC director had a moment of honesty, the first response is personal capacity, look over there. [00:12:53] Yeah. [00:12:54] It's really, it's interesting that numbers, computers, and statistics have actually Pulled us further away from reality. [00:13:05] Like, they're in a way, teachers keeping kids at home and not going back is kind of statistically like Black Lives Matter in the sense that they focus all of their energy on cops shooting unarmed Black men, which is statistically next to nothing. [00:13:26] They focus none of their focus on Black men killing other Black men, which is statistically through the roof. [00:13:34] And we're all supposed to just go along with it. [00:13:37] Like, we don't do math, like, we can't look at a number or a spreadsheet. [00:13:42] And the teacher's thing is kind of the same thing. [00:13:44] There is no statistical data that says it's dangerous for kids to go back into the classroom. [00:13:51] There's now a bunch of statistical data saying it's very dangerous for them to stay home with all the myriad of things that go along with that, you know, substance abuse and mental stuff and physical abuse and all that. [00:14:03] And yet, we're just going to ignore that. [00:14:05] And let them sit home and rot. [00:14:07] So the heroes who claim to have gotten into it because they love kids and they want to change their future are all. [00:14:14] And by the way, this thing where it's like, well, it's not them, it's the unions, then start piping up against your unions. [00:14:20] Why don't you start pushing back against the unions? [00:14:23] Like, isn't that what a hero would do? [00:14:27] And why do we need these unions? [00:14:29] The Biden administration wants to get rid of school choice. [00:14:33] Is that this seems like so? [00:14:35] We want a monopoly with these idiots? [00:14:38] Controlling our kids and controlling the state, that doesn't seem like a good plan for me. [00:14:45] Get rid of charter schools and get rid of school choice and get rid of vouchers, have an ever increasing number of unions and school teachers' unions, and then have them just dictate policy in a state as big as California. [00:15:00] That doesn't seem like a great plan to me. [00:15:02] It seems like what they're doing now. [00:15:05] Nobody wants it. [00:15:06] So all the parents want their kids to go back to school. [00:15:08] The governor wants the kids to go back to school. [00:15:10] The mayor. [00:15:11] In Los Angeles, wants the kids to go back to school, but the union, because of how big it is, says no. [00:15:17] Does that make sense to anybody? [00:15:19] And might we pump the brakes at this point and say, hmm, maybe there should be some alternatives to big unionized, federally funded schools? [00:15:30] Do we think there's any chance of that happening given what the size of democratic donations the unions make? [00:15:37] Well, somebody's going to have to start talking about the fact that. [00:15:42] You know, it's so funny because I live in California and I live amongst these idiots. [00:15:47] And when you say to them all the time, hey, the governor wants the schools open, it's statistically safe for the schools to open, the mayor wants the schools open. [00:15:54] How come schools aren't open? [00:15:55] They'll go, I don't know. [00:15:57] I don't know. [00:15:57] They have no. [00:15:59] Connection to the unions and them funding the politicians. [00:16:03] They cannot do that math. [00:16:06] Or they won't do that math. [00:16:07] Or it's some sort of cognitive dissidence or something. [00:16:11] Your people, Democrats, the people you're voting for, this is what they're doing. [00:16:16] They're sacrificing kids. [00:16:18] The mayor and the governor, they can give some lip service to it, but they can't actually make a move because they're scared of the unions who are funding that. [00:16:28] And this is essentially payola. [00:16:32] And it's perfectly fine for all the Democrats who live in California. [00:16:38] I would say that's a hypocritical stance. [00:16:41] I mean, I would say, and I have said it, you want to just say, that's fine. [00:16:46] You don't want to teach, you're fired. [00:16:48] It's no problem. [00:16:49] That's the deal. [00:16:49] Like the reason you get the paycheck is because you do the teaching. [00:16:52] And now that we're back open, if you're not going to show up, you're fired. [00:16:57] But how can they do that when the unions control the slots that the teachers are in? [00:17:03] And they're going to just say they can't backfill them. [00:17:05] Like the unions got them. [00:17:07] They've got them right where they want them. [00:17:09] Well, haven't we agreed in our society that monopolies are bad? [00:17:16] That sometimes you abuse your power when you're a monopoly. [00:17:19] So we have a lot of laws to break up monopolies and to prevent monopolies. [00:17:26] So why is it good for the school teachers union who is a monopoly? [00:17:32] Why is that an okay monopoly? [00:17:34] So you couldn't have a monopoly. [00:17:37] On automobiles or on tacos, but you could have one on teachers, and that works. [00:17:43] This is, by the way, what happens when there's a monopoly. [00:17:47] I'm living it in California. [00:17:48] My kids are laying in their room right now because of the school teachers union monopoly. [00:17:55] If we had alternatives, then they would just lose business and go away. [00:18:00] If there were others who were competing against them, but they have a monopoly. [00:18:07] What is advantageous about a monopoly? [00:18:09] We're calling it a union, but it's really a monopoly. [00:18:12] That's a good point. [00:18:13] I mean, there was a time in our country's history where teachers felt they were being mistreated, and the only way they were going to get decent salaries and decent benefits was to bind together and work against, you know, as a unit against the sort of the cities controlling all the purse strings. === Why Teacher Unions Persist (12:02) === [00:18:31] I don't think we're still there. [00:18:33] And the free market has led to a lot of great schools. [00:18:37] That don't have to obey by these rules. [00:18:39] And that's, they're so threatened by how well they're working, things like charter schools and so on, that their solution is, as you point out, they must be shut down. [00:18:48] It's not, we have to do better because they're coming for us. [00:18:51] You know, it's like we could do better and learn from their example. [00:18:53] It's, they need to go away. [00:18:55] The competition needs to be eliminated. [00:18:57] Yeah. [00:18:58] Well, what would you do if you were really bad at your job and you were lazy? [00:19:04] Would you want to up your game or would you want to get rid of the competition? [00:19:09] So they're going to do. [00:19:11] Basically, they're going to do what we let them do. [00:19:14] And I don't think they're any different than any other entity. [00:19:19] I don't see why GM wouldn't do it as well or any other large, you know, GE or any other large corporation. [00:19:27] They'll do what we let them do. [00:19:30] Unfortunately, California lets them do whatever they want to do. [00:19:35] And this is the product. [00:19:37] I mean, I'm living it right now. [00:19:40] This is what happens when you have a Democratic supermajority. [00:19:46] This is the product. [00:19:47] And now Newsome, who's essentially been neutered, has to do two things. [00:19:53] He has to say out of one side of his mouth because there's so much pressure and there's a recall. [00:19:58] Effort afoot, and people are hitting their boiling point at this point because the kids have been home for almost a year. [00:20:07] My kids have been home almost a year. [00:20:10] And according to the school teachers' unions, by the time everyone's vaccinated and we get everyone back in the classroom, it'll be time for the summer break. [00:20:17] There will be no school year this year. [00:20:21] So Newsom has to pay his constituency lip service by saying, Well, I'd like these schools to open, but he also can't do anything. [00:20:31] Sweeping or dramatic, or force anyone back into the classroom because unions are his bread and butter. [00:20:38] So he just sits there pretending like he wants schools to open, but doing nothing about it. [00:20:44] And the scary thing is, you know, as we continue to put such blind faith, not we the country, but really the administration now in Fauci, he's saying we may be dealing with this situation until the end of next school year, 21 into 22. [00:21:05] I just think at what point have the American people had enough? [00:21:08] At what point is there actually just a collective middle finger? [00:21:13] Like if we have to have our classes in the middle of the park taught by a group of parents who's studied up on the latest, we're going to do it because this is such bullshit. [00:21:24] How many years can they keep us locked in our apartments without teaching our children while still cashing all of our tax checks? [00:21:32] You know, I mean, I do wonder because we are Americans. [00:21:36] The American spirit is. [00:21:38] As a free spirit, we like our liberty a lot. [00:21:41] And you can see, even in a state like California, Adam, you know, you tell me that's very blue. [00:21:47] I feel like people there are reaching their boiling point. [00:21:50] They've had it. [00:21:51] Well, you know, you can kind of judge if you've lived in California, you live in Los Angeles. [00:21:58] At the beginning of the shutdown, there wasn't any traffic on the freeways. [00:22:03] Now there's just as much traffic as there ever was, which means people are kind of voting with their feet. [00:22:11] So, the state is reopening whether the governor likes it or not because people are just tired of it. [00:22:20] And also, you can't cry wolf that many times before people just start heading back sort of into the town square. [00:22:29] So, essentially, that's what's happening. [00:22:33] Unfortunately, there is no version of that with public schools where kids just start wandering onto campus and opening books. [00:22:42] You know, that's going to take a decree. [00:22:45] And the reality, Megan, let me tell you the most disappointing part about this entire experiment that we've all been living through for the last year. [00:22:56] I cannot believe how cowardly people are. [00:23:00] I was reading a tweet that I sent out early in July saying teachers are heroes and cops are the bad guys, but cops are doing their jobs and the heroes, the teachers won't go back to school. [00:23:16] And of course, I always get attacked whenever I get attacked. [00:23:19] I call the teachers cowards, or whatever I do, what I do. [00:23:22] And it's the scariest part and most revelatory part about this whole thing is what lemming coward sheep everyone has turned out to be. [00:23:31] They're attacking Dr. Drew. [00:23:34] They're attacking me. [00:23:35] They're attacking anybody who suggests lockdowns are hurting our society. [00:23:40] They're hurting the kids. [00:23:42] Kids are safe. [00:23:43] Kids should be able to go back to school. [00:23:45] This is affecting old people and people with pre existing conditions. [00:23:50] It's not killing healthy people. [00:23:53] The insane part about this is how fast society turned on people. [00:23:59] That are championing the cause of freedom. [00:24:02] That's the scary. [00:24:05] I expected the government. [00:24:06] Look, I expected Newsom to be a shit show. [00:24:09] He's an idiot. [00:24:10] I've interviewed the guy. [00:24:12] He doesn't, he has a synapse problem, but he's really a dumb dude. [00:24:16] Listen to him debate me. [00:24:18] It's on YouTube somewhere. [00:24:20] He cannot compete. [00:24:21] And I have a junior college education. [00:24:24] I was put on academic probation at a junior college, and Gavin Newsom can't keep up with me. [00:24:30] So he's a dumb dude. [00:24:32] I didn't expect anything from him. [00:24:34] Our mayor Garcetti is a flat out pussy. [00:24:37] I didn't expect anything from that guy. [00:24:39] He is a total puss. [00:24:42] No problemo. [00:24:43] What about the people? [00:24:45] What about the comedians? [00:24:47] Where are the voices? [00:24:48] Who's pushing back? [00:24:50] That's the disappointing part. [00:24:51] It's not Newsom and Garcetti. [00:24:53] I knew who they were. [00:24:55] It's everyone else. [00:24:57] What's wrong with everybody? [00:24:59] Why is everyone? [00:24:59] And everyone is so scared to speak up or to say anything. [00:25:05] People are such cowards. [00:25:07] He's like a JFK figure. [00:25:09] He's got the good hair. [00:25:10] You know, he's somewhat good looking. [00:25:13] I remember when he was married to Kimberly Guilfoyle, they did this big spread where she had the flowing dress, and you could just tell they were sort of wannabes. [00:25:20] You know, they were kind of wannabes. [00:25:21] And I think he's still a wannabe and he's good looking enough. [00:25:25] It's very rare in a politician that he keeps getting elevated to the next position. [00:25:29] And yet he clearly has no spine. [00:25:31] You know, and the recall thing is interesting because it wasn't until that started to get. [00:25:36] Really more serious and start to look like it had some momentum behind it. [00:25:40] That he was like, you know what? [00:25:41] Let's open the schools. [00:25:44] But the unions are standing their ground saying, screw you. [00:25:47] Make us. [00:25:48] And now, you know, his bluff has been called and we'll see. [00:25:51] I mean, do you think there's actually going to be a recall? [00:25:55] I think there is. [00:25:56] It sounds like there is. [00:25:57] And it'd be nice if there was. [00:25:59] And to circle back to the disappointment, I think we've figured out that with enough. [00:26:06] Social pressure, almost any entity will cave, right? [00:26:12] And here's what I'm saying. [00:26:16] If we went all out and pressured the unions to reopen the schools, if the LA Times was writing articles every day, if CNN was hitting it hard, if celebrities were tweeting, we would force them to do it. [00:26:33] The point is, none of those entities are doing any of that. [00:26:37] And that's the sad part. [00:26:40] I think we could shame the unions into opening the schools of California, but no celebrity, no comedian, no public figure, they're not going on record. [00:26:54] And I don't know, where's the Los Angeles Times? [00:26:56] Aren't we supposed to follow the science? [00:26:59] What about the science? [00:27:00] I thought it was all about following good. [00:27:02] Good, then do your thing, Los Angeles Times. [00:27:05] Instead of writing another, Op ed piece about the dangers of hydroxychloroquine. [00:27:10] Why don't you attack the teachers' union? [00:27:12] Or are you on their side? [00:27:15] See, this is the problem with the supermajority in California. [00:27:18] The Los Angeles Times agrees with the teachers' union. [00:27:22] They like the teachers' union, they are on the same side politically as the teachers' union. [00:27:28] So they're not going to do anything. [00:27:30] Everyone should be rising up in unison and shaming those idiots into doing their jobs. [00:27:37] And they've leaned into their own fear. [00:27:40] They've leaned in their own fear. [00:27:42] There's the group that's genuinely gotten themselves terrified of COVID, even though if you are under the age of 70, you have over 99% chance of surviving COVID. [00:27:51] But there's a group that's gotten themselves convinced it's like the plague. [00:27:54] And, you know, the media helps by playing up any case of somebody who didn't have a pre existing condition. [00:28:00] and was young and died. [00:28:01] I mean, they will play it up so that everybody knows who that person was, where you could do the same thing with the flu. [00:28:08] Every year, if you wanted to take somebody who was young and you didn't think was otherwise susceptible to death from getting the flu, many people do die of it. [00:28:16] But because there is sort of a COVID porn need by the media, they'll take one case and really scare the hell out of people and people walk away thinking they actually might die from this thing. [00:28:25] So you got people who are genuinely fearful and they're not paying attention or because they're just people who like drama in their lives and they lean into fear as a general matter. [00:28:34] And then you got the people who know the truth, but they're fearful about getting mean tweets, right? [00:28:40] About getting attacked, like you say, like Dr. Drew or you or, you know, Dr. Atlas, who was at the White House and just got killed. [00:28:48] Like any sort of unorthodox pushback is publicly shamed as you don't give a shit about grandma. [00:28:56] And nobody wants to be accused of that. [00:28:58] But we're at the point now where it's like, when the CDC is on your side, And just no one's listening to it, it's time to rise up. [00:29:05] It's maybe time for an editorial. [00:29:07] Yeah, I agree. [00:29:09] It's an interesting glimpse into the human psyche, which is they're so cowardly and so worried about the mob turning on them, they'll say almost anything and they'll repress almost any thought. [00:29:24] And they don't really care about right and wrong and science and data and numbers. [00:29:29] They'll just sheepishly go along with everyone because everyone evidently. [00:29:35] You know, it's funny. [00:29:36] You know, they used to say like number one fear, you know, snakes, number two, public speaking, you know, number three, spiders. [00:29:45] But it's really being shamed and pushed out of the village, essentially. [00:29:53] That must be the number one fear of all human beings. [00:29:57] And maybe when they were talking about snakes and public speaking, they didn't have a modality for pushing everyone out. [00:30:05] Out of the or shaming everyone in the public square, like we do now with Twitter. [00:30:09] But evidently, that's almost every human being's greatest fear because that's the only explanation for why everyone's going along with this. [00:30:19] And by the way, it's awesome if you're Amazon and it's awesome if you're Gavin Newsom because you have a whole bunch of these scared subjects just sheepishly going along with everything you tell them to do. [00:30:32] More with Adam in just one second. === Impact of Constant Connectivity (14:56) === [00:30:34] But first, it seems like every day, everywhere, practically everyone is connected on their devices, right? [00:30:40] We don't look up anymore. [00:30:41] We don't take in nature. [00:30:42] We just look down at our screens. 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[00:32:22] How could I be somebody you want to cancel? [00:32:25] You know, like, I wanted Roseanne canceled, whatever it is, you know, pick the latest. [00:32:30] controversy, but the one that was in the news recently was the New York Times pushed out its COVID reporter. [00:32:40] I mean, this guy was their COVID reporter. [00:32:45] His name is Don McNeil Jr. [00:32:47] And he's been at the Times for 45 years. [00:32:53] 45 years. [00:32:55] I listen to him often. [00:32:56] I listen to The Daily. [00:32:58] That's their podcast over there. [00:32:59] And it's left and it's fine. [00:33:00] But I like different points of view coming into my, you know, I like. [00:33:04] not just all right-wing stuff. [00:33:05] And he's definitely a COVID panicker kind of guy, you know, like in terms of his reporting, he's been jumping up and down. [00:33:13] So of course, the Times should love him. [00:33:17] And he got forced out because it came out that in 2019, he was on some trip overseas with a bunch of like teenagers, like young teenagers. [00:33:30] And it was like some educational thing. [00:33:33] And he was asked at a dinner by a student whether he, McNeil, thought a classmate of hers. [00:33:38] Should have been suspended for a video the kid made when she was 12, in which this kid used a racial slur, the N word. [00:33:46] And McNeil has now admitted that he asked the student telling him this story if the 12 year old had called somebody else the slur or if she was rapping or quoting a book title. [00:33:59] And he admits that he actually said the N word when having this exchange. [00:34:04] Like when trying to quote, he was like, Did she say, and he didn't say N word, he said the word in this context or in that context? [00:34:12] This is why he's now been fired. [00:34:13] His 45 year career is over because in quoting someone who used the N word, he actually said it. [00:34:23] Adam, the New York Times staff, to its credit, the New York Times originally said, look, it doesn't appear his intentions were hateful or malicious. [00:34:33] And Dean Bakay was like, I'm not going to fire the guy. [00:34:35] You know, like he's very sorry. [00:34:37] Trust me. [00:34:37] He'll never do it again. [00:34:40] 150 staffers. [00:34:43] Wrote a letter. [00:34:45] F you. [00:34:46] Intention is irrelevant. [00:34:49] What matters is impact. [00:34:53] All that matters is how the quote, victims feel. [00:34:58] And we got the stuff we've gotten so often over the past year of like the speech itself was somehow violent and everyone there was in pain. [00:35:09] And we've been disrespected. [00:35:13] Now, they want a reinvestigation of the whole incident. [00:35:17] They want an organizational study into how racial biases affect editorial decisions. [00:35:23] The Times is on the knee. [00:35:25] McNeil is out. [00:35:27] And we've now gotten to the point officially where all that matters is not intention, but quote, impact. [00:35:35] And you can always find someone willing to say they've been negatively impacted by someone's alleged misstep. [00:35:43] Remember when the mayor of Oakland found all those hoops hanging from the trees at the park in Oakland and, of course, decided there were nooses, right? [00:35:56] Yes. [00:35:57] Then the black man who put all the hoops up said, I put them up for exercise. [00:36:02] It's the way I exercise at the park or people exercise at the park. [00:36:06] And the mayor of Oakland said, I'm still going to call in the FBI and we're going to investigate it. [00:36:12] It's a hate crime. [00:36:13] Now, first off, you want to talk about a waste of taxpayers' money, number one. [00:36:17] Number two, you're just admitting into a microphone you're a fucking imbecile if that's what you said. [00:36:23] If you're saying that into a microphone, you're saying, I'm incompetent and inept. [00:36:28] And I have no idea why we would want this person to run a major city. [00:36:32] But either way, didn't we just get our answer? [00:36:36] And isn't it all context and intent? [00:36:40] And this is a big deal because a lot, it's a very interesting bigger point, which is so many young white people love rap music and are influenced by rap music and then repeat the lyrics and then. [00:37:00] Get into trouble for repeating the lyrics, which is essentially an homage to the music that they're enjoying. [00:37:08] And we see no difference. [00:37:11] There's no difference between calling someone the N word or repeating what someone else said. [00:37:19] There's an absolute difference. [00:37:22] It's night and day, it's insanity. [00:37:25] And anyone who doesn't see that difference should be labeled an imbecile. [00:37:32] And if you write for a newspaper and you're a reporter in any capacity and you don't know the difference and you don't know contact, then you should be fired because you're incapable of doing your job. [00:37:45] How would you, in fact, report on something if, in fact, whatever part of your brain that perceives contact had somehow been destroyed with a soldering iron? [00:37:56] Well, you know what it does the focus on impact instead of intent. [00:38:02] The ability to make mistakes. [00:38:04] You're done. [00:38:05] Right. [00:38:06] Mistakes, no one gives a shit if it was a mistake. [00:38:08] All they care about is that you did it. [00:38:10] And no one can go through life like that, especially when, if the impact, right, if your negative impact is being judged by today's standards where there are landmines everywhere, right? [00:38:24] Like this one, yes, you should know that you shouldn't utter that word. [00:38:28] I get that. [00:38:29] I understand he was trying to do it to quote somebody, but whatever. [00:38:32] It was a dumb thing to do. [00:38:34] On a parallel lane to that story at the Times, there was another story about this guy. [00:38:39] I think he's one of the producers of that podcast, The Daily, named Andy Mills. [00:38:43] He was effectively forced out. [00:38:45] He resigned, but he was effectively forced out because of, they said he had a Me Too movement, a Me Too moment at a different employer back in 2018, and it got dragged back up. [00:38:56] And I was like, well, what was he accused of doing? [00:38:59] I don't know. [00:38:59] Like, I'm not sure why he didn't get booted out of his last organization. [00:39:02] And I was looking and looking and looking. [00:39:04] Basically, what he was accused of doing was he got drunk in a bar. [00:39:08] He like took a drink and dumped it on a woman's head and made flirtatious comments. [00:39:15] All right. [00:39:16] That is not worth you getting fired from your next job, right? [00:39:21] From your next job. [00:39:22] Right. [00:39:23] That didn't even involve these, these colleagues, right? [00:39:26] But because he was big on one of their most popular podcasts and apparently, I don't know, they just thought he was getting a pass. [00:39:38] They thought he was getting a pass. [00:39:40] And he was also, I think, involved in the Caliphate podcast, which was completely undermined. [00:39:46] And it turned out to be like false, and they had to take it down and all this stuff. [00:39:49] And he didn't get fired. [00:39:50] But the point is, the Times is now doing a couple of things, right? [00:39:55] Like, if you've had. [00:39:57] Any misstep currently or in your past, even if you've atoned for it and paid for it, you're done. [00:40:06] I don't know how we can live in this world. [00:40:09] Here's the problem, as far as I can tell. [00:40:14] What the Times is doing is the Times creates. [00:40:19] So here's the world we're living in. [00:40:24] These, you know, social justice warriors who are out. [00:40:29] Telling everyone why they're immoral and why everything's problematic and why everything they do or did is evil or racist or homophobic or whatever it is. [00:40:44] So the New York Times has deemed themselves the purveyor of morality. [00:40:52] So, of course, you have to cleanse within your own ranks because if you're going to. [00:40:58] Announce that you are the new moral standard, you can't have anyone in your ranks that did anything at all. [00:41:06] So it's going to be an internal cleansing and an external judging of the world. [00:41:13] So, how can you call Trump a misogynist every 10 minutes if there may be some misogyny lurking within your own ranks? [00:41:22] So, they're going to have to purge their own, which is now we're into some scary territory, right? [00:41:30] Absolutely terrifying. [00:41:32] I'm thinking about the quicksand that we're all walking on. [00:41:36] If this is a standard where you can't, you know, the evolving standards of what's okay or what's offensive, you can't keep up with it. [00:41:42] You know, this year alone, they changed, they got rid of the name Redskins, as you know. [00:41:46] The Cleveland Indians say they're getting rid of their name. [00:41:48] And then just last Friday, there was an op ed by somebody, some hysteric, Jamie Goodall was her name. [00:41:56] I think it was a woman. [00:41:57] Yeah. [00:41:58] In the Washington Post, had an op ed saying Buccaneers has to go. [00:42:02] Buccaneers is a celebration of piracy. [00:42:07] She said, it may seem like innocent fun and pride in a local culture, but there is danger in romanticizing ruthless cutthroats who created a crisis in world trade when they captured and plundered, plundered Adam, thousands of ships on the Atlantic trade routes. [00:42:21] Okay, so the Buccaneers, they're on shaky ground. [00:42:27] And anybody who would defend the Buccaneers could potentially be on shaky ground as having a negative quote, Impact on someone like Jamie Goodall, some staff historian who's now decided to be the moral arbiter of us all. [00:42:41] And it's like, I don't know. [00:42:42] The other piece of it is impact on whom, right? [00:42:46] Because Don McNeil Those days are gone. [00:42:50] Yeah. [00:42:51] Well, you tell me because Don McNeil says that word, right? [00:42:54] He says that word trying to quote somebody and he's fired after 45 years of the times. [00:42:58] I just watched a Super Bowl where The Weeknd performed, who says that word. [00:43:06] Every other line in some of his songs. [00:43:08] You know, to your point about the rap community, every other line. [00:43:10] And I saw Cardi B in one of the commercials who says that word every other line in some of her songs, not to mention some other stuff. [00:43:18] So I mean, I get that those latter two people are black and Don McNeil is white, but it does beg the question impact on whom? [00:43:30] Well, look, the part where there is some plausible. [00:43:37] Some line you could draw through some sort of positive impact versus, you know, them just controlling your life. [00:43:46] Like the first time the whole Washington Redskins thing flared up and then died down about 10 years ago is because. [00:43:56] They went and did a survey of indigenous people or American Indians or whatever we call them, and they said they don't care. [00:44:08] And that's why it went away the first time because they were like, all right, the people who we're trying to save don't care because they have bigger fish to fry than the Washington Redskins logo on the side of the helmet. [00:44:21] They have real problems. [00:44:23] And so that community is. [00:44:27] Per capita, probably worse off than any community in the United States. [00:44:32] I think if you go to the community with the most problems and ask them about the most frivolous of their problems, then most of them are going to say, We're dealing with adolescent diabetes and poverty over here. [00:44:46] We're not so interested in the Washington Redskins logo. [00:44:50] So, and this thing where who does it affect? [00:44:53] It affects nobody. [00:44:55] None of this affects most of all of this doesn't affect. [00:44:59] Most of the stuff we're talking about, I mean, circling back to the teachers, kids don't have COVID and they don't affect teachers. [00:45:07] None of this affects any. [00:45:08] Most of the stuff we're talking about doesn't affect anybody. [00:45:12] We're essentially out of problems. [00:45:14] And whoever this idiot writer is writing about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, she is clearly out of problems. [00:45:20] And anyone who agrees with her writing are out of problems as well. [00:45:26] People with real problems aren't interested in this and know it affects nobody. === Renaming Schools Sparks Debate (08:05) === [00:45:31] They always do this thing where, like, you know, it's It's dangerous or it sends the wrong message. [00:45:38] I was just reading a tweet that some idiot sent me an hour ago, and they were saying, like, because San Francisco's changing all the names of the schools from Lincoln to Washington, and you got to get everything must go. [00:45:51] This isn't by the way, this is being sold under a false pretense. [00:45:58] This, like, we have to go back and clear these mistakes up from the past because they're racist or they make people feel in danger. [00:46:08] That's all bullshit. [00:46:09] This is just a purge. [00:46:11] They're just purging. [00:46:12] They're just getting rid of everything that was so that they can reshape the now and the future. [00:46:19] This has nothing to do with Lincoln and nothing to do with Washington. [00:46:23] This is just to do with getting rid of everything that came before so that they can now sculpt the narrative and sculpt the future. [00:46:34] But some idiot tweeted me, like, well, you don't think it's a good idea to get rid of those names? [00:46:39] Like, What about the nine year old who's or the ninth grader who's in that group and the fear they feel walking into the school? [00:46:48] It's like, what are you talking about? [00:46:51] Does anyone even know when they were in junior high, it even knew what the stupid name was of their school, what the person did or what they're involved with or anything? [00:47:02] Why do you feel fear? [00:47:04] If you feel fear when you're walking into middle school, it's for reasons having nothing to do with the name of your school. [00:47:09] We all felt it and for good reason, not having to do with Abraham Lincoln. [00:47:14] And also, the good news is, children in San Francisco, you don't have to feel fear walking into Lincoln Junior High because it's been shut down for a year because your teachers won't go back to work. [00:47:26] So, good. [00:47:27] You feel fear at home. [00:47:29] You know how some parents pass that on, right? [00:47:32] They're hysterical and they pass it on to their kids. [00:47:34] It's like society is doing that right now to adults, whether it's COVID or, I mean, how aren't you stunned by the fact that it was 150 staffers who wrote the letter trying to Kill this guy after 45 years at the time? [00:47:49] 45. [00:47:51] They wanted his scalp and they got it. [00:47:55] They're They're teaching the next generation. [00:48:00] Let me posit this. [00:48:01] Think about it. [00:48:02] So, you know, 150 people wrote the letter. [00:48:06] How many of those 150 were just scared to be cast out? [00:48:09] They don't want to be wished out into the cornfield. [00:48:12] You know, this whole thing is. [00:48:14] You can learn everything you want to learn by watching that Twilight Zone episode where that kid is going to wish everyone out in the cornfield. [00:48:22] That's ironic because it's a kid wishing all the adults out in the cornfield. [00:48:26] So that 40. Five year old staffer was the adult, and the kids wished him out in the cornfield. [00:48:32] But when you're sitting in your cubicle at the Times and somebody brings by the letter to get this old timer shit can and wants you to sign it, what percentage of people really thought he needed to go versus didn't want to get wished out in the cornfield? [00:48:51] This is the dangerous. [00:48:54] That's why these are dangerous times because people are cowards. [00:48:58] People. [00:49:01] If I got all those 150 time staffers drunk and asked them if they really cared what this guy said, when he said it, or whether he should be dismissed, at least 144 of them would have said they don't care. [00:49:14] Some of them may have said, McNeil's an asshole. [00:49:17] He's been an asshole for a long time. [00:49:19] And that's the other concern. [00:49:21] You can't use stuff like this to get rid of somebody who you just don't like, but you know it's happening. [00:49:29] For sure it's happening. [00:49:30] You know, and it's like when we had due process, you would make sure that the target was not pretextual. [00:49:39] You know, you would make sure that there had been an actual, you know, serious ethical misstep and like probe. [00:49:48] Is there actually just an axe to grind about this guy here? [00:49:50] Because we don't generally fire people after 45 years just for being, you know, irascible. [00:49:56] Now, all it takes is a letter like this, and especially on an issue like race. [00:50:01] I'm not, again, I'm not excusing him. [00:50:03] Uttering the word. [00:50:04] It's just anything having to do with race. [00:50:06] And I mean, that Times letter is like, please don't hurt us. [00:50:10] Please don't hurt us. [00:50:11] Everyone looks at all this stuff like it's somehow progress. [00:50:16] This is regress. [00:50:17] This is not progress. [00:50:19] We're not evolving. [00:50:21] I've been saying for a long time, like all the people who are into the progressive movement, it's like not all progress is good. [00:50:29] Just because it's different doesn't mean it's good. [00:50:32] Just because it's different than it was 10 years ago doesn't mean it's progress. [00:50:36] A lot. [00:50:38] There's a big, I think one of the things we're getting caught up in as a nation of like, look at us, we're moving forward. [00:50:45] Like, look at us, we're moving forward. [00:50:47] But are we moving in the right direction? [00:50:50] And is this really progress? [00:50:52] Is this a good thing? [00:50:54] So, will you be happy? [00:50:55] Now you can rest easy when your kids enter the workforce. [00:51:01] Is that how you should think now? [00:51:02] Oh, thank God. [00:51:04] Oh, I'm going to sleep like a baby knowing my young son who likes to speak his mind is entering the workforce. [00:51:10] Right. [00:51:10] Because it's like we realize that all of you setting the rules are absolutely perfect and have never made a mistake and would never make a mistake. [00:51:16] But what about your kids? [00:51:19] Are you totally confident they're never going to misstep? [00:51:22] And you know what? [00:51:22] It's like nine times out of 10, the people pushing this nonsense, they don't have kids. [00:51:26] They're like young people looking for a cause. [00:51:28] They feel like they're part of the next civil rights movement and they're not. [00:51:34] But there is a purging going on, not just people getting fired or canceled, but like in the publishing world, you know, you saw Josh Hawley, his book got canceled after the Capitol riot. [00:51:45] Now, Simon Schuster, according to the latest report I read, is saying they're going to stop publishing Candace Owens. [00:51:52] Oh, really? [00:51:52] The woman, yep, the woman who, like, the one conservative. [00:51:58] Editor at Hachette has been fired. [00:52:02] She was the one responsible for getting Don Jr.'s book published, and she just published Andy No's book. [00:52:08] She did like Corey Lewandowski, who I can't stand Corey Lewandowski, but I wouldn't stop him from publishing a book, Newt Gingrich, stuff like that. [00:52:16] So, anyway, she just got the official reasons were some lame reasons, but there's a big write up on how it's bullshit, right? [00:52:24] Like everybody knows it's bullshit that Hachette, as soon as they fired her, was reassuring employees they'd learn the lessons of the Capitol riot. [00:52:32] There'll be no more hate speech, no incitement, no false narratives in the books that they publish. [00:52:39] And they're going to shift back now, Adam, to quote, think tank conservatives. [00:52:43] Think tank conservatives. [00:52:46] I mean, okay. [00:52:48] Yeah, they're think tank conservatives. [00:52:50] Like when you watch CNN, when they think they want to have this sort of even handed panel, whenever you hear Republican strategists, you always know, oh, that's not a real Republican. [00:53:02] They're just going to get someone to get up there and talk a bunch of shit. [00:53:06] About Trump or whoever, but yeah, think tank conservative. [00:53:14] I don't get why people put up with this. [00:53:18] I don't get why more people don't talk about it. [00:53:21] It's really insane. [00:53:22] I mean, we're getting into publishing. [00:53:25] I mean, we're literally getting into it, we can't burn their books anymore because they don't exist, because they won't publish them. [00:53:34] We're literally, we leapfrogged past books. === Secure Insurance with The Zebra (02:00) === [00:53:37] Burning and that there's no product to burn. [00:53:40] That's so true. [00:53:41] Well said. [00:53:42] That's exactly right. [00:53:44] No more tweets to bash because the tweets are not allowed anymore. [00:53:49] No more violent rhetoric on Parlor because Parlor's gone. [00:53:53] And by the way, just in case our audience didn't hear, the guy who came on the show, John Mates, the CEO of Parlor, was fired last week. [00:54:00] Fired. [00:54:01] And we're trying to figure out exactly what the story was, the reports of that. [00:54:05] Coming up in one minute, I'm going to ask Adam about the ladies of the View ganging up on Van Jones, who was in Adam's movie, No Safe Spaces, which everyone should go see. [00:54:14] It's amazing. [00:54:15] And we're going to have a little chat about AOC and whether she's a force for good. [00:54:20] That's in one second. [00:54:21] But first, insurance can be complicated, right? [00:54:24] I mean, just the word insurance, you're like, I don't want to do it. [00:54:28] You can basically get this hassle off of your back by bringing in the zebra. [00:54:35] They were created to help you. [00:54:36] When you use thezebra.com, insurance finally feels like it's in black and white. [00:54:42] No more confusion, no more gray area, just honest rates from real companies. [00:54:46] The Zebra is the nation's leading insurance comparison site, you see, for your home and car insurance. [00:54:53] They can help you save money today by making it super simple to compare what's out there. 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[00:55:48] And today it's a story about my children. [00:55:51] We woke up in the morning. [00:55:54] I went out to the coffee maker and It was preset. [00:55:59] It was like made. [00:55:59] You know, the grounds were in there. [00:56:00] By the way, it was Black Rifle Coffee. [00:56:02] And all I had to do was hit brew, right? [00:56:05] So I just figured Doug had done it. [00:56:07] And I'm like, oh, thanks, babe. [00:56:08] He's like, oh, I didn't do it. [00:56:09] I'm like, what do you mean I didn't do it? [00:56:11] And Yardley, our nine-year-old was like, I did it. [00:56:16] My nine-year-old preset my coffee maker. [00:56:19] I was like, ah, goals, hashtag goals accomplished. [00:56:25] And I sent out a tweet the other day saying, you know, I pretty much feel that all my parenting goals have been accomplished now. [00:56:30] Like, I'm good. [00:56:31] Once your nine year old just on her own makes her morning coffee for you, I think you can just sit back and say, Nailed it. [00:56:38] So, anyway, you know how it is, parents. [00:56:41] You don't get days like that every day. [00:56:43] Sometimes you get too many of the other kinds of days. [00:56:45] But that was a good one. [00:56:46] And I just thought I'd share it. [00:56:49] And now back to Adam. [00:56:54] Speaking of intolerance, Van Jones was on The View. [00:56:57] And Van Jones to me is a really interesting one. [00:56:59] If I were running CNN, I would. [00:57:02] Well, I'd fire Chris Cuomo and I'd fire Don Lemon for sure. [00:57:05] Like yesterday, they would definitely be fired. [00:57:07] But I'd give Van Jones a show in primetime immediately. [00:57:12] So, Van Jones used to be a communist, right? [00:57:15] He's the one that Glenn Beck, I think, regrettably, got fired from the Obama administration. [00:57:21] He was going to be like his green energy czar. [00:57:23] So, I can't remember. [00:57:24] It was so long ago now, but he was hard, hard left. [00:57:27] And I don't think he's there anymore, but he's a black man who grew up in Tennessee. [00:57:33] And I think he has made a lifelong effort to understand people who are not like he is and to reach out across the aisle to people who are not like he is. [00:57:43] He actually just came out with this effort with Meghan McCain to sort of, it's like, I can't remember what they're calling it. [00:57:48] It's like, bridge the divide. [00:57:49] And they're trying to sort of get people to unite, which I don't know how that's going to go, but I love Van Jones. [00:57:54] I have interviewed Van Jones before. [00:57:56] And also, Van Jones was in my No Safe Spaces movie with Dennis Prager as well. [00:58:03] So I know Van Jones a bit. [00:58:05] And yes, he's a sensible person. [00:58:08] Guy, for the most part. [00:58:09] Although he was on Mar two weeks ago and we're talking about recalling Gavin Newsom, he just shouted out that's a QAnon conspiracy thing. [00:58:19] And it's like, no, it's not. [00:58:20] He's a horrible governor and we're trying to recall him. [00:58:23] Well, it's got over 1.3 million signatures. [00:58:26] And they only need 1.5. [00:58:28] I know. [00:58:29] I don't know why Van Jones yelled out QAnon conspiracy. [00:58:32] I think the new deal with people on the left is anything you disagree with, you just yell QAnon conspiracy. [00:58:37] Oh, I'm going to do that. [00:58:39] That's actually pretty good. [00:58:40] I like that. [00:58:41] Thank you for the tip. [00:58:42] Everybody's got political disagreements. [00:58:44] As Van Jones once said to me privately, because we're friends, something like, let's disagree 23 hours of the day. [00:58:50] And I like that, right? [00:58:51] Like, let's have a beer the other hour. [00:58:53] Let's be cool. [00:58:54] Let's see each other's humanity. [00:58:56] Anyway, my point is he goes on The View. [00:58:59] Now, as I say, he's doing this thing, this effort, bipartisanship, whatever, with Meghan McCain, who's a co-host of The View. [00:59:06] So he goes over there to talk about it. [00:59:07] Right. [00:59:07] Anna Navarro, this is another one of those fake Republicans like Nicole Wallace, so hateful now. [00:59:13] And they killed Van Jones. [00:59:17] We have a clip. [00:59:18] Take a listen. [00:59:19] All of a sudden, you show up working with Nepotism Barbie and Nepotism Ken, and you work and showing up, you know, in pictures with Eric Trump and with Candace Owens. [00:59:29] And so I think there's people who wonder, and I'm one of them, how did that evolution happen? [00:59:35] There's no evolution. [00:59:38] When Obama was in office, I was working with Newt Gingrich, I was working with Republicans then to get people out of prison. [00:59:45] There are those who really accuse you of being a political opportunist, a chameleon, so to speak, who provided a racial cover for former disgraced, twice impeached President Trump. [00:59:55] People in the black community don't trust you. [00:59:57] Anymore. [00:59:58] What is your response? [01:00:00] Oh, well, I don't think that that's true. [01:00:09] The point that ladies of the view were trying to make is how dare you reach across the aisle and work with anybody in that Trump White House, even if it means getting people of color out of jail early. [01:00:22] Screw you, Van Jones, because you worked with quote, nepotism, Barbie, and Ken. [01:00:28] Right. [01:00:28] Which basically shows they're not interested in whatever it is they say they're interested in. [01:00:34] You know what I mean? [01:00:37] Whatever their deal is, it's kind of like Black Lives Matter. [01:00:40] They're not really interested in what they say they're interested in. [01:00:45] And leaders of you, they're always talking about unity and uniting the country and reaching across the aisle and civility and all that. [01:00:58] They're interested in their terms. [01:01:01] 100%. [01:01:01] Their idea of unity is 100% their way or the highway. [01:01:06] Yep. [01:01:07] They're also thin skinned. [01:01:10] You know what I mean? [01:01:10] Like, hey, Your Highness, is anyone allowed to disagree with the way you think? [01:01:17] I mean, you have to think about all these people. [01:01:19] First off, they're intellectually idiots, most of them. [01:01:22] And the rules are all of society must just join in and lockstep behind them and think exactly how they think. [01:01:30] Otherwise, they need to be cast, you know, they need to be banished. [01:01:34] And cast out into the cornfield. [01:01:37] It's complete other narcissism, you know, or, you know, you must be, Fox must be canceled because they disagree with us. [01:01:48] I mean, just think about that. [01:01:50] Think about the crazed narcissism of saying, you disagree with me, so you're bad and you must not exist. [01:02:00] Yep. [01:02:01] And it's working. [01:02:02] That's what's really scary, it's, They're not going to get rid of Fox. [01:02:06] That's not happening. [01:02:06] But, you know, these little, it's death by a thousand cuts, right? [01:02:11] Like the one minute Hachette goes. [01:02:13] And something like 600 publishing staffers wrote a letter last month saying there'll be no books by anybody from the Trump administration or who supported the violence at the Capitol, which really means didn't totally accept the election result as non fraudulent. [01:02:30] It happens just here, there, everywhere. [01:02:33] Now, Vangelos tries to reach across the aisle. [01:02:36] Get criminal justice reform done, something the left would normally be cheering for. [01:02:40] No, he gets shamed for it on The View. [01:02:42] He gets shamed for taking a picture with Candace Owens, with whom he probably agrees on absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing. [01:02:48] But just being in a picture with her is enough for them to give him a hard time. [01:02:53] And it doesn't matter that Van himself is black, liberal, hard left liberal, you know, for most of his history. [01:02:59] No, doesn't matter. [01:03:00] You got to toe the line. [01:03:01] You got to toe it every second of every day or you're out. [01:03:05] I think it's one of the reasons why, Adam, people look at like even the impeachment happening this week and they're like, We're over you and your hysterical overreactions to everything. [01:03:15] They talk, I'm not defending the Capitol Hill riot at all, but they talk about it like it was like another 1776 all-out revolutionary war. [01:03:26] And it's not to say it wasn't bad. [01:03:29] It was bad. [01:03:30] But, you know, the difference in rhetoric when they talk about the riots we've seen over this year versus what we saw that day is obvious to anybody. [01:03:38] Oh, my God. [01:03:39] Did you hear AOC's tearful. [01:03:42] And by the way, the deuce just picks it up and runs with it. [01:03:46] Harrowing experience, you know, this thing where, I mean, the white cop, she couldn't trust him. [01:03:53] I mean, it's insane. [01:03:55] We're in a completely different situation. [01:03:58] It's racist. [01:03:59] Of course, it's racist. [01:04:00] Well, by the way, everything those people do, essentially, while they're calling everyone else a racist, is in fact racist. [01:04:08] Yep. [01:04:10] Of course, that's who they are. [01:04:13] This is, it is a new era we're in, and it's pretty damn insane that we have people like AOC who are so fear based and so panic based. [01:04:27] I mean, these are our leaders. [01:04:30] She's a leader. [01:04:31] Just Telling her, she was telling everyone she was locked herself in the bathroom and was scared to come out and fearful of her life. [01:04:39] Like, that's a leader. [01:04:42] She wasn't even in the main building. [01:04:44] No, she wasn't even in the main building. [01:04:47] Meanwhile, can I just point out we had Steve Scalise on the show who actually took a bullet on a baseball field a couple of years ago by some lunatic Bernie Sanders supporter. [01:04:57] And he was cool as a cucumber. [01:05:00] You know, it wasn't good. [01:05:01] We got to deal with it. [01:05:02] But, you know, we got to lower the temperature. [01:05:04] But if anybody had the right to go out there and play the victim, right? [01:05:08] It was him. [01:05:09] I just, for me, AOC constantly runs to playing the victim. [01:05:14] I make no comments on her revelation that she was the sexual violence victim. [01:05:20] I have only empathy for her on that. [01:05:22] But the thing is, she's always running to victimhood and it's just a massive turnoff. [01:05:29] So I'm exempting that particular thing. [01:05:33] But No matter what happens to AOC, she overplays it. [01:05:37] Like Ted Cruz did not try to have her murdered. [01:05:39] And the more she engages in that nonsense, the more it ramps up the rhetoric rather than tones it down, which is what smart people like Scalise are calling for, and makes you look at her as you're weak and you're exploiting how divided the country is right now. [01:05:54] Yes. [01:05:55] A, you make yourself look like whatever the opposite is of a leader, you are displaying all the qualities of a non leader. [01:06:04] And People are agitated enough, and all you're doing, and by the way, it's all narcissism. [01:06:11] You're drawing attention and focus on yourself. [01:06:14] This is, as far as AOC's experience of this whole thing, this should be a non starter. [01:06:24] It really should be. [01:06:25] I mean, she wasn't even in the same facility. [01:06:29] So for you, AOC is allowed to have opinions on it, but to feel like she was in fear of her life and to do the whole fearful thing and essentially just. [01:06:39] It just essentially, she's just an out of control narcissist. [01:06:44] That's all this. [01:06:45] I mean, it's pure and simple. [01:06:47] No one historically would talk about themselves in such a way. [01:06:51] And for some reason, the victimhood thing has become the leader in the clubhouse when it comes to narcissism. [01:07:01] Whereas in the past, it was about, well, here's how many medals I've won and here's the dragons I've slayed. [01:07:09] You know, now it's here's who was the most scared. [01:07:13] Whoever was the most scared is going to get the most kudos. [01:07:16] I don't know. [01:07:17] Is that what you want in a leader? [01:07:18] Like, what if there was a war? [01:07:21] The general who was the most frightened, he would be the most highly decorated? [01:07:26] Because that's where we're at. [01:07:28] True. [01:07:30] All right. [01:07:30] Let me shift gears with you and throw you something out of left field because I just kind of wanted to ask for your take on Marilyn Manson. [01:07:40] Now, I haven't closely followed the career of Marilyn Manson other than the guy looks absolutely freaking bizarre. [01:07:46] And was always like with these beautiful women. [01:07:49] And I was always like, how is that possible? [01:07:51] He's so disgusting. [01:07:52] How is he getting all these beautiful, beautiful women to be by? [01:07:55] But you know, he's a rock star, so it happens. [01:07:58] And now it turns out he's been accused by more than nine women, or at least nine women, of very dark harassment, sexual violence, torture. [01:08:09] He denies it all. [01:08:10] But you can't help but look at the guy and be like, hmm, I mean, it makes some sense. [01:08:16] I don't know. [01:08:16] Do you have any thoughts on it? [01:08:19] I know him a little bit. [01:08:23] He's a kind of troubled guy. [01:08:26] There's probably some substance. [01:08:29] You know, sprinkled in there. [01:08:32] He, you know, he probably has these relationships and then gets into this role playing stuff. [01:08:40] And then, you know, if you do the role playing right, I guess the lines get a little blurry, you know? [01:08:48] And then you start, you know, once you start getting into the substance and you start getting into the role playing, then who the hell knows what version of everything is reality versus reality? [01:09:04] You know, his version of it is everything's consensual, it's role playing. [01:09:08] Their version of it is it was beyond role playing. [01:09:13] I don't know how you prove that. [01:09:15] You know, I mean, once you've both, once both parties have consented to the role play, now it gets kind of blurry as to like where that line was crossed. [01:09:32] You know what I'm saying? [01:09:34] When you got nine women coming out accusing you, you're doing the role playing wrong. [01:09:39] Your acting career is over. [01:09:41] Stick to singing. [01:09:42] You're going to have to find some other way of approaching your sex life because clearly what you're doing ain't working. [01:09:48] Or you're so good at it that you're that deep into it. [01:09:53] Oh, he was method. [01:09:56] That's not going to fly. [01:09:57] Yeah, he's gone whole method. [01:09:58] Yeah, I agree. [01:09:59] I'm not defending him. [01:10:01] That's my speculation. [01:10:02] No, I was just curious. [01:10:03] I thought it. [01:10:04] By the way, when you say you know him a bit, have you seen him without the makeup? [01:10:07] Like when you see Marilyn Manson in real life, does he wear the makeup? [01:10:11] No, when you see him in real life, he looks like Ted McGinley Jr. from The Love Boat. [01:10:17] And what do you think? [01:10:19] He was good looking. [01:10:20] Ted McGinley Jr. was a handsome. [01:10:23] Okay, I got confused for a second. [01:10:25] I'm making a joke. [01:10:27] I picked the whitest, blondest, best looking guy from the 90s that I could think of. [01:10:34] Meanwhile, not like Most of the audience here, I think, is pretty young, and probably none of them got what the hell you just referenced, although I'm old. [01:10:42] Google Ted McGinley Jr. [01:10:47] And also, we should start an internet rumor that he's your biological brother. [01:10:54] Because if Megyn Kelly has a brother out there, a male counterpart, a doppelganger, I think Ted would be. [01:11:06] The best we could do in that department. [01:11:08] And that's a compliment to you and Ted. [01:11:11] I'm flattered. [01:11:12] I mean, thank you for that. [01:11:14] I do have a brother. [01:11:15] He's not a, I would say his personality is close to a doppelganger. [01:11:20] And by the way, not for nothing, but I actually just went down and saw him in Georgia because his son got married. [01:11:25] And that's another, unlike California, people went to the wedding. [01:11:29] People were out on the streets. [01:11:30] People were living their lives. === Life Beyond California Politics (03:53) === [01:11:31] It's a southern state, right? [01:11:32] It's a red state where like people just, I think they see risk differently. [01:11:36] We went to the wedding, and guess what? [01:11:38] It wasn't a super spreader event. [01:11:40] As far as we know, my brother's been checking in. [01:11:42] Nobody got COVID. [01:11:42] We didn't get COVID. [01:11:43] We brought our kids. [01:11:45] People were responsible. [01:11:46] It all worked out in the end. [01:11:49] All right, which leads me to my last question. [01:11:52] So, California is not a red state. [01:11:56] And We've had a lot of. [01:11:59] We asked our listeners to write in if they had any questions for you. [01:12:01] And the one question we kept getting over and over is Is Adam going to leave California? [01:12:05] So, what's the answer? [01:12:07] Well, you know, I'm in Malibu right now and it's so damn beautiful. [01:12:13] I'm just staring at the ocean. [01:12:16] But yes, well, look, here's the deal. [01:12:19] We'll either have to have a Giuliani type referendum to California and just completely shake the place up. [01:12:29] Or people who have jobs and pay taxes and want to raise their kids are going to have to leave. [01:12:36] I mean, it'll be one or the other. [01:12:38] So, my kids are in the ninth grade. [01:12:41] They got a few more years. [01:12:43] Well, they're not in the ninth grade, they're sort of next to the ninth grade because they're not allowed to go to school in California. [01:12:51] But they will graduate high school and then we will leave unless. [01:13:01] Something happens. [01:13:02] I mean, maybe there'll be some kind of turnaround. [01:13:04] Maybe there'll be some sort of renaissance or awakening. [01:13:09] Maybe we'll get somebody, you know, maybe we'll get rid of Newsom and get somebody, Falconer, I think, in from San Diego, like someone who wants to run the state like it's a business and make it better, make a better climate and, you know, focus on homelessness and traffic and all the stuff that plagues it. [01:13:29] And then maybe I'll stay. [01:13:31] But it's not looking like it. [01:13:32] Is Falconer attractive? [01:13:34] He's not Ted McGinley attractive, if that's what you're talking about. [01:13:38] Well, you know, my husband Doug has this whole theory about how, like, we really need unattractive politicians and Supreme Court justices because otherwise they're really, they start getting drunk on their own wine. [01:13:47] They need the approval of, like, sort of the Georgetown cocktail parties or, in your case, the San Francisco cocktail parties. [01:13:54] And that's a bad thing. [01:13:55] We need people who are like, I'm a little grisly. [01:13:57] I'm fine with it. [01:13:58] I'll get ahead based on my character and personality. [01:14:01] Yeah. [01:14:02] I got to see a falconer what falconer looks like. [01:14:06] I don't think he's going to win any bathing suit competition. [01:14:10] Perfect. [01:14:11] Well, I like to think, you know, this is one of my own secrets to success in my life is that I wound up, you know, okay, fine. [01:14:20] It's not fishing for compliments. [01:14:22] I wound up relatively attractive, but I was not an attractive child. [01:14:26] And that was important to my success in life. [01:14:29] You got to get ahead on your personality, you got to learn how to be funny. [01:14:33] You have to try. [01:14:35] You actually are not the one who was told she had to just sit there and look pretty. [01:14:39] It wasn't going to work. [01:14:41] So I think ugly politicians and ugliness in general as a child is not such a bad thing. [01:14:46] See, conversely, I was super hot until I was 30, and now I'm a pig. [01:14:52] So I got all the wrong messaging growing up. [01:14:56] But you developed your brain, and that's attractive. [01:15:00] Yes, thank you for acknowledging that, Megan. [01:15:05] Adam, it's always a pleasure. [01:15:06] If you decide to leave, Don't come to New York City because it's no better, but maybe we'll find a place in between and I'll see you there. [01:15:13] I look forward to talking to you soon, Megan. 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