The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1970 - AOC Claims Black People Invented Democracy
Aired: 2026-05-08
Duration: 50:05


=== Protect Your Family With Ethos (02:12) ===

[00:00:00]  Black people invented democracy, according to AOC.
[00:00:04]  The moderate Democrat presidential candidate confirms that he would trans his underage son.
[00:00:09]  And the government prepares the public for the long-anticipated UFO disclosure day that is set to begin any minute.
[00:00:18]  I'm Michael Knowles.
[00:00:19]  This is the Michael Knowles Show.
[00:00:39]  Welcome back to the show.
[00:00:40]  Speaking of galaxies far, far away and speaking of supposedly moderate Democrats, Mark Hamill has just wished for President Trump's death with a very vivid image that he posted to social media.
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=== Rewriting History And Democracy (11:38) ===

[00:02:12]  Breaking news in history.
[00:02:15]  You know, we try to cover the news, the things that are happening right now that are different, that have changed, that we need to be aware of.
[00:02:21]  When the left does, though, what the left does is they make their news in history.
[00:02:26]  So they just rewrite history.
[00:02:28]  And by rewriting history, they try to change the facts of the world today.
[00:02:32]  So some breaking news from history, according to AOC, black people invented democracy.
[00:02:42]  There are very few real archetypes of.
[00:02:46]  In my opinion, truly what America is all about, I think about the civil rights and voting rights movement and how black Americans really created democracy in this country.
[00:03:02]  That's exactly right.
[00:03:03]  How they literally made something from nothing.
[00:03:07]  It is just beyond me.
[00:03:10]  You know, back in the 1970s during the black power movement, some black nationalists, black activists created this meme where they would just claim credit for everything in history.
[00:03:23]  They would claim credit for being the pharaohs of Egypt or whatever.
[00:03:25]  There's this, we were kings in Egypt sort of, sort of move.
[00:03:28]  And so AOC is really just updating this to the founding fathers, which we should have seen coming because Lin Manuel Miranda made a really famous Broadway musical and then movie about that where he just took all the founding fathers and made them all black or Hispanic.
[00:03:43]  One time I was in New York, I was debating the black Hebrew Israelites.
[00:03:46]  You know, these are these guys who say that black people are the real Jews and whites are the devil.
[00:03:50]  And so I was chatting with them.
[00:03:52]  This was many, many years ago on the street.
[00:03:53]  I was a teenager.
[00:03:55]  maybe 2021.
[00:03:57]  And I thought I found the flaw in their argument where they were claiming that black people did all the good stuff in history.
[00:04:03]  And because they love the King James Bible, they said the only Bible that you should read is the King James Bible.
[00:04:08]  And I said, well, I found a flaw in your theory of history because King James, you might have heard, was not black.
[00:04:15]  He was a white guy.
[00:04:15]  And they had an answer for this.
[00:04:17]  I was talking to this really funny black Hebrew Israelite and he said, no, that's where you're wrong, you white devil.
[00:04:23]  And he just pulled out a poster board and it was.
[00:04:26]  It was King James, but he was black.
[00:04:28]  They like colored him in.
[00:04:30]  So then it got me thinking.
[00:04:31]  I said, oh, well, maybe in the AOC world, maybe James Madison looks like this.
[00:04:39]  For those of you who are listening, maybe it's just, maybe James Madison was a black guy.
[00:04:43]  But I thought, well, James Madison did not invent democracy.
[00:04:46]  He's the father of our constitution, our system of government, which is largely democratic.
[00:04:51]  But really, democracy goes back to ancient Greece, to the sixth century BC in Athens, Cleisthenes.
[00:04:57]  And then I thought, okay, maybe I just misperceived the marble busts of Cleisthenes.
[00:05:04]  Maybe.
[00:05:04]  He was really just like a shaft looking guy with a big afro, you know, sort of broader, duskier features.
[00:05:13]  The AOC rewrite of history.
[00:05:16]  After I was done thinking about James Madison and Cleisthenes and the Black Hebrew Israelites, I was reminded of probably the greatest YouTube video that has ever existed and that will ever exist.
[00:05:28]  This is from the early days of YouTube, and it was a Ken Burns style documentary on the old Negro space program.
[00:05:39]  A lot of people today, they don't think about it.
[00:05:43]  They say, oh, they're putting a man on the moon, or oh, they're sending up another space shuttle.
[00:05:51]  But you see, they don't realize that in the early days of the space program, NASA was whites only.
[00:06:02]  This was, when was it?
[00:06:07]  1957 58.
[00:06:08]  It was a different time, you understand.
[00:06:12]  See, in 1957, if you were black and if you were an astronaut, you were out of work.
[00:06:23]  You were.
[00:06:24]  It's too bad.
[00:06:29]  They had names like Loopy Louie Hayes, Suitcase Jefferson, and Rocket Randall.
[00:06:36]  What they lacked in technical know how, they more than made up for in courage and zeal.
[00:06:43]  The courageous heroes of the Old Negro Space Program.
[00:06:49]  The Old Negro Space Program, once a parody 20 years ago, now just a political talking point from one of the left's most prominent politicians and indeed a viable presidential candidate.
[00:07:05]  So, why is AOC doing this?
[00:07:10]  AOC is doing this because, according to the left, it's amazing.
[00:07:17]  We talk about how, you know, it used to be the radical left would call for political violence and socialism and all this stuff.
[00:07:23]  And now that's just completely mainstream.
[00:07:25]  And the most milquetoast, supposedly moderate Democrats are the ones who are transing their kids, calling to murder the president, celebrating the murder of ordinary moderate conservatives.
[00:07:34]  And so this has collapsed.
[00:07:37]  These two extremes have now collapsed.
[00:07:41]  The old Negro space program.
[00:07:43]  and a member of Congress.
[00:07:44]  They've now collapsed.
[00:07:45]  They're the same thing.
[00:07:48]  This is a message to leftists who want to rewrite history.
[00:07:52]  This is a message to Democrats who want to, I don't know, extol the supposed virtues of the progressive program.
[00:08:01]  Black people didn't have to do everything.
[00:08:04]  Okay.
[00:08:04]  It's not just black people.
[00:08:06]  Like one group or your favored racial groups or whatever, they didn't have to do Everything.
[00:08:14]  White people can have done something.
[00:08:16]  It's okay.
[00:08:17]  It doesn't totally destroy progressivism or liberalism if white people ever did anything ever.
[00:08:24]  And to be really fair to AOC, I guess the plausible point she's trying to make is that democracy didn't really exist until 1960s radicalism, that true democracy didn't really exist until Democrat policies or whatever.
[00:08:41]  But that just isn't true.
[00:08:44]  That just isn't true.
[00:08:46]  It's okay.
[00:08:48]  You don't make your argument stronger when you say ridiculous things.
[00:08:53]  And yet that's all they seem to do.
[00:08:56]  Stacey Abrams, speaking of black people and democracy, follows up on AOC's remarks by claiming that there are no longer red states and blue states.
[00:09:06]  There are just authoritarian states and democratic states.
[00:09:12]  Can you give us a sense of what fighting back in this moment is going to look like?
[00:09:17]  It's going to require that we remember we are the United States of America.
[00:09:22]  And so we have to sit what Tennessee is doing next to the fight that's coming out of Louisiana, next to the fight that will follow in Mississippi.
[00:09:29]  And likely in South Carolina.
[00:09:31]  We are watching in real time the restoration of the very laws that pretended racial neutrality, but were intended to deny black and brown voters the right to participate in democracy, which is one of the principal goals of authoritarianism.
[00:09:48]  They do not want the people who may disagree with them to be heard.
[00:09:52]  And right now in the United States, race is the strongest predictor of political leanings.
[00:09:57]  And so it's a lucky twofer.
[00:09:59]  They get the partisanship.
[00:10:00]  But they also get the white supremacy that they seek.
[00:10:03]  And I sat in a hearing yesterday in Nashville, Tennessee, when the author of the legislation said, well, this is a conservative state.
[00:10:11]  We should only have conservatives.
[00:10:13]  And they intentionally erased the only black district, one of nine districts, the only one that allowed black Tennesseans to have some voice because they've already cracked Nashville.
[00:10:26]  But we have to remember this is happening around the country and it is part of an intentional.
[00:10:31]  Nationwide pattern of behavior.
[00:10:33]  We can be angry about Tennessee and we can laud the Tennesseans who have fought back so ably, but we've got to remember they started in the South, but they're coming for everyone.
[00:10:42]  Okay.
[00:10:43]  So Stacey Abrams is whining because following the Supreme Court's decision in Louisiana versus Calais, which said that you're not allowed to gerrymander according to racial discrimination, which actually struck down a racist policy, because of that, Tennessee is redistricted and now it's a Republican state.
[00:11:00]  And Stacey Abrams is saying this is horrible.
[00:11:01]  It's kind of ironic.
[00:11:02]  Coming on the heels of Virginia, just disenfranchising 91%, just a week ago, disenfranchising 91% of Republicans in the state.
[00:11:11]  It's also ironic because that aforementioned Supreme Court decision, Louisiana versus Calais, had its most scorching opinion written by Clarence Thomas, the second ever black justice on the Supreme Court, who wrote an opinion that went even further than Alito, who wrote the majority opinion in the case and said that we need to strike down all of this racial gerrymandering.
[00:11:36]  So it kind of cuts against her argument there.
[00:11:38]  But then there's a third flaw with her argument, which is she says that there's a distinction between authoritarian states and democracy.
[00:11:48]  And the flaw in her argument is not just that Republicans are not particularly authoritarian or that Democrats actually these days are beyond authoritarian.
[00:11:55]  They're totalitarian.
[00:11:57]  They're not merely enforcing a handful of laws for public life, but they're insisting upon a uniformity of thought and behavior and belief for all of life, including private life.
[00:12:07]  But At a basic level, democracies can be authoritarian.
[00:12:12]  There's nothing about democracy that precludes authoritarianism.
[00:12:17]  Democracy is just what most people vote for.
[00:12:20]  Democracies can be libertine, democracies can be authoritarian, but it shows you that what the libs mean when they use the word democracy is just liberalism.
[00:12:27]  So when the people vote against the Democrats, they argue that it is therefore anti democratic.
[00:12:35]  But of course it's not when democracy is just what most people vote for.
[00:12:39]  The final hilarious thing about Stacey Abrams making this claim, whining about the demise of democracy, is that Stacey Abrams is only famous.
[00:12:52]  Because she lost democratic elections.
[00:12:55]  She lost two of them when she ran for governor of Georgia in 2018 and 2022.
[00:12:59]  She lost democratic elections and then refused to concede.
[00:13:04]  So she probably still maintains that she is the duly elected governor of Georgia.
[00:13:10]  So she is most famous for subverting democracy multiple times, or at least attempting to subvert democracy.
[00:13:16]  But it shows you a fundamental misunderstanding, a profound ignorance about what politics really is.
[00:13:23]  and how it pertains to race and democracy and all the rest.
[00:13:25]  Either a profound ignorance or a deceitfulness, a duplicity, and an intent to defraud people by misusing terms and grabbing power at all costs.
[00:13:39]  Regardless, this is the norm now.
[00:13:43]  We used to all make fun of the AOCs and the Stacey Abrams, but these guys are mainstream.

=== Dancing Around The Transition Issue (07:02) ===

[00:13:51]  AOC could be the Democrat nominee for president.
[00:13:53]  We used to make fun of Hassan Piker as some total wacko left-winger.
[00:13:57]  Hassan Piker, while he's calling for the murder of multiple Republican senators, he is being exalted by the New York Times.
[00:14:02]  You're seeing a total collapse of the fringe with the mainstream Democrats.
[00:14:09]  They're the same thing now.
[00:14:12]  The Democrat presidential candidate is a black Hebrew Israelite, effectively.
[00:14:18]  The milquetoast moderate liberal is the same thing as the radical socialists.
[00:14:23]  They're all the same party.
[00:14:24]  They've collapsed in on themselves and the left flank won.
[00:14:28]  Proof positive of this, the most moderate.
[00:14:31]  Democrat, plausible presidential candidate, Wes Moore, has just said that he would trans his underage son.
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[00:16:04]  PBD.
[00:16:05]  Gotta give the guy credit.
[00:16:06]  Credit, man.
[00:16:06]  This was a great interview.
[00:16:08]  He's interviewing Wes Moore.
[00:16:09]  Wes Moore is the Democrat governor of Maryland, but he's distanced himself in some ways from the radical extremes of the Democrat parties.
[00:16:16]  I'm not beholden to the Democrat Party.
[00:16:19]  You know, I'm the sensible, pragmatic, moderate.
[00:16:22]  He's repeatedly said he's not going to run for president, but everyone assumes that he is seriously considering running for president.
[00:16:28]  And so let's test the pragmatic, sensible, moderate, middle of the road, as milquetoast as it gets, Democrat.
[00:16:34]  PBD says, Would you trans your kid?
[00:16:39]  Your son comes in saying he wants to transition.
[00:16:42]  What do you do?
[00:16:46]  Well, first, I mean, if it's my son.
[00:16:50]  So I love him regardless.
[00:16:52]  Right?
[00:16:55]  And he's always going to have my undying love.
[00:16:58]  That's me.
[00:16:59]  Right?
[00:17:01]  I want to make sure that I'm involved in understanding where he is, how he's feeling, the way he's feeling, why he thinks it's important.
[00:17:11]  Would you do it or not?
[00:17:12]  If this is a journey that he wants to go down, I want him to always be comfortable in his own skin.
[00:17:20]  And I want him to always know that he has a.
[00:17:23]  Partner and me to help him along that journey.
[00:17:26]  Would you advise him to wait till he's 18?
[00:17:30]  If this is how he is feeling and I feel like I'm closely tied to him, I'm not going to advise him on something that he feels is at 14 years old, Wes?
[00:17:41]  No, I understand it.
[00:17:43]  But what I'm saying is the most important thing for me is I want him to feel safe in his own skin, safe in his own decision making.
[00:17:53]  But also know that at 14 years old, I want to be involved inside of that process as well.
[00:17:59]  I want to be involved in trans.
[00:18:00]  I'm not going to condemn him nor castigate him.
[00:18:04]  No, I'm not going to advise you.
[00:18:04]  I'm not going to kick him out of the house.
[00:18:06]  No, yeah.
[00:18:06]  No one else is going to do anything that's going to hurt him.
[00:18:09]  Yeah.
[00:18:09]  But I just want to make sure that I'm involved.
[00:18:11]  Yeah.
[00:18:12]  Okay.
[00:18:12]  That's a lot of words.
[00:18:13]  He knows that this is an absolutely radioactive issue.
[00:18:17]  This is the most extreme, shocking issue.
[00:18:21]  In many ways, much more so than abortion, even though abortion is graver.
[00:18:25]  But this is just so absurd.
[00:18:27]  I mean, this is what wiped the Democrats out in 2024.
[00:18:29]  This specific Issue of transing the kids.
[00:18:34]  PBD says, Would you trans your kid?
[00:18:36]  All these words.
[00:18:36]  Well, I want him to feel comfortable in his own skin.
[00:18:38]  Okay.
[00:18:38]  Well, first of all, right off the bat, if you want your kid to feel comfortable in his own skin, surely you would not tell him to radically change his skin, right?
[00:18:47]  If you say, You need to feel comfortable with your body, you would not encourage him in the delusion that he is somehow opposed to his body, right?
[00:18:57]  Westmore doesn't quite get that.
[00:18:59]  He doesn't catch that contradiction.
[00:19:01]  He says, I wouldn't kick him out of the house.
[00:19:03]  No one asked if you're going to kick him out of the house.
[00:19:06]  Would you trans your kid?
[00:19:07]  It said, well, I wouldn't, I don't want to give him advice either way.
[00:19:11]  You don't want to, I thought you just said you wanted to be there and guide your son.
[00:19:14]  That's the basic role of a father.
[00:19:16]  Now you're not going to give him advice when he says he wants to chop his genitals off.
[00:19:18]  You're not going to give him advice.
[00:19:20]  And so what are you going to do?
[00:19:22]  Well, I just want to be, I want to journey with him.
[00:19:25]  You want to journey with him?
[00:19:25]  That means you're going to go along with it.
[00:19:27]  And so PBD catches this and he says, would you at least tell him to wait until he's 18 to chop his genitals off?
[00:19:34]  And Wesmore says, no, no, I wouldn't.
[00:19:38]  And there it is.
[00:19:39]  There it comes.
[00:19:39]  He's doing his best to dance around the issue, but there it is.
[00:19:42]  Excellent job from PBD here.
[00:19:44]  I mean, really great way to just nail him on the question.
[00:19:48]  And it tells you everything you need to know.
[00:19:51]  Because in many ways, we have succeeded.
[00:19:55]  We have eradicated transgenderism from public life almost entirely.
[00:20:00]  The thing that I said three years ago at CPAC that got me accused of genocide, to make all these headlines, said it was so radical, so crazy, so extreme, no way.
[00:20:10]  Basically, everybody's come around to that.
[00:20:12]  Even the Democrats have really downplayed the trans issue.
[00:20:15]  Speaking to a very prominent Democrat pundit just the other night, and he was saying, Yeah, this issue, you know, we were talking with a number of people.
[00:20:24]  They said, This issue is so unpopular for Democrats that they kind of have to downplay it.
[00:20:29]  But what happens when you drill them on it?
[00:20:31]  What happens when you say, Okay, I know you want to downplay this because the voters think you're nuts and you're trying to do the Abigail Spanberger thing where you play the moderate and then when you get elected, you'll enact the most radical agenda.
[00:20:39]  But push comes to shove.
[00:20:41]  Do you still support transing little kids, chopping off their genitals?
[00:20:46]  Do you still support that?
[00:20:48]  The most moderate Democrat presidential candidate says, yup, absolutely.

=== Democrats Downplay Trans Concerns (02:30) ===

[00:20:53]  There is no distinction between the fringe, radical, craziest left that Karl Marx could never possibly have imagined and the moderate, sensible, establishment liberal Democrat.
[00:21:08]  There is no distinction anymore.
[00:21:10]  It is gone.
[00:21:12]  The proof of that is all around us on abortion, on open borders, on but the real undeniable heuristic here do you support transing the kids?
[00:21:24]  The moderate guy says yes.
[00:21:27]  What moderate Dems?
[00:21:28]  Look to Mark Hamill.
[00:21:30]  Mark Hamill, Luke Skywalker, a guy who is famous for having had one big film role in the 1970s.
[00:21:37]  That's his whole career.
[00:21:40]  And he tries to position himself as just a kind of regular Democrat.
[00:21:46]  He was just campaigning with Barack Obama the other day to launch Obama's presidential library.
[00:21:52]  Barack Obama published a video with Mark Hamill a week ago.
[00:21:56]  Now, Mark Hamill posts a picture of Donald Trump dead with a headstone above him.
[00:22:02]  Flower is growing out of his body.
[00:22:05]  And it says, if only.
[00:22:07]  Mark Hamill writes, if only.
[00:22:10]  He should live long enough to witness his inevitable, devastating loss in the midterms, be held accountable for his unprecedented corruption, impeached, convicted, and humiliated for his countless crimes, long enough to realize he'll be disgraced in the history books forevermore.
[00:22:21]  Hashtag Don the Con, if only.
[00:22:23]  And it's a picture of Trump lying dead.
[00:22:25]  This is two weeks after one of Mark Hamill's own, one of Barack Obama's own.
[00:22:30]  Just tried to blow Trump's head off along with the entire government at the White House Correspondence Dinner.
[00:22:35]  That guy wasn't a radical fringe guy.
[00:22:38]  NPR admitted that.
[00:22:39]  NPR was interviewing a left wing operative named Jared Holt.
[00:22:42]  They were discussing the ideological motivations of the White House Correspondence Dinner shooter, and they concluded this is damning.
[00:22:48]  They concluded that the guy wasn't really that radical.
[00:22:51]  He actually believed pretty much just what every Democrat believes.
[00:22:55]  The guy who Barack Obama is publishing videos with days later doubles down on this.
[00:23:01]  A week after another leftist tries to murder Trump, eight months after a leftist succeeded at murdering Charlie Kirk, the most prominent conservative organizer.
[00:23:11]  That just two months, three months after a leftist nearly murdered President Trump on his golf course, that just a month or two after a leftist blew off part of Trump's ear at a campaign stop in Pennsylvania.

=== Leftist Threats To Trump (06:03) ===

[00:23:24]  They won't stop.
[00:23:27]  There is no moderation, and the violence is getting worse.
[00:23:30]  As we see, With our very own Luke Rosiak.
[00:23:33]  Luke Rosiak has this amazing story published on Daily Wire about massive fraud in Ohio.
[00:23:39]  After the stories about fraud in Minnesota and in California, massive fraud going on in Ohio, specifically tied to the Somalis.
[00:23:46]  And now they're threatening the life of Luke Rosiak and his family.
[00:23:49]  There's a lot more to say first, though.
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[00:24:59]  Our own Luke Rosiak is rolling out this incredible story in the Daily Wire.
[00:25:01]  We've taken down the paywall for it.
[00:25:02]  You really need to follow this.
[00:25:04]  Kudos to the Republicans in Congress and to the Trump administration, the vice president in particular, who is leading the fraud task force, really, really promoting this story while the establishment media are doing their best to black it out.
[00:25:17]  And while the perpetrators of the crimes documented in this story are threatening our very own reporters' life.
[00:25:25]  You have more than 30 charges in court.
[00:25:28]  I mean, that's a very long criminal record.
[00:25:30]  And now you're getting paid to be the owner of a company that helps people's health.
[00:25:35]  I mean, you were arrested for assault.
[00:25:38]  Yes, I do have a lot of records.
[00:25:43]  I was just so dumb, I don't even know what is law.
[00:25:47]  I put in my application, the government's Medicaid, Medicare, they check, they see all my history, and they approve the business to operate.
[00:25:58]  I mean, you were arrested and you gave a fake name.
[00:26:01]  Yeah, I gave that false name, even that was my name, I gave it.
[00:26:06]  And they tried to make me wish, ah, we have falsification for fake name and stuff.
[00:26:11]  And now you're the owner of a company that's gotten a million dollars from the government, and because the work happens in people's houses, it involves a lot of trust.
[00:26:21]  You're still asking some questions that are very irrelevant and unnecessary.
[00:26:28]  I already know who you are, your parents, and so forth.
[00:26:34]  You know my parents?
[00:26:35]  Okay, so I'm going to have to handle you a different way, okay?
[00:26:38]  I'm calling to warn you.
[00:26:40]  That's what I'm trying to do.
[00:26:43]  So that's a little bit of an edited snippet.
[00:26:46]  We've cut out the part where the guy makes clear that that is not just an empty threat.
[00:26:50]  This Somali guy that our reporter calls.
[00:26:53]  Says, I know who you are.
[00:26:55]  I know who you are.
[00:26:56]  I know your parents.
[00:26:58]  And this woman comes on at the end.
[00:26:59]  Hey, we're just trying to warn you.
[00:27:01]  You know, we don't want to do this the hard way.
[00:27:02]  That was not just an empty threat.
[00:27:04]  They did know who our reporter was.
[00:27:06]  They did have information.
[00:27:07]  And they are threatening him and they're threatening his whole family because Daily Wire's own Luke Rosiak is calling his people up and saying, hey, you're criminals.
[00:27:16]  You got a rap sheet a mile long.
[00:27:17]  You're bilking the taxpayer, you, just you, an individual, for a million dollars in bogus government services.
[00:27:23]  And that's just a drop in the bucket.
[00:27:25]  That's just the tip of the iceberg.
[00:27:27]  Now, you would think 20 years ago, 25 years ago, maybe right at the end of the Clinton era when the Democrats were still really trying to pretend to be normal, a story like this comes out about massive government fraud.
[00:27:41]  The Democrats would have jumped on this story, even if they don't really mind welfare fraud, even if they think it helps them because they're importing a lot of foreigners and they're trying to build a permanent electoral majority.
[00:27:51]  At the very least, hypocrisy is the tribute vice-based of virtue.
[00:27:54]  They would have at least pretended to care.
[00:27:57]  Oh, yes, we're going to get to the bottom of this.
[00:27:58]  We need investigations.
[00:27:59]  That's not what's happening here.
[00:28:01]  In this case, in the year of our Lord 2026, the Democrats are taking the side of the Somali criminals, the fraudsters who are bilking the taxpayers for hundreds of billions of dollars total between California and Minnesota and Ohio, and who are threatening journalists.
[00:28:17]  Remember the sacred fourth estate?
[00:28:20]  Remember the importance of this work of journalists who exist to uphold democracy, except when it's a conservative journalist.
[00:28:27]  And then in that case, some Somali criminal.
[00:28:30]  threatens to murder his whole family.
[00:28:32]  And the Democrats don't say a peep.
[00:28:33]  When they do say something, they are speaking out in defense of the Somali criminals.
[00:28:39]  We are so through the looking glass, folks.
[00:28:41]  We are so past the Rubicon.
[00:28:43]  I don't know how many metaphors I'm going to have to mix.
[00:28:46]  This is very dangerous, very violent stuff that is coming from the mainstream left.
[00:28:52]  They are telling you this openly at every level of the government, every level of the media.
[00:28:58]  And I think a lot of conservatives, maybe myself included, we want to think that's not possible.
[00:29:03]  We want to just bury our heads in the sand.
[00:29:05]  We want to say, no, they couldn't really mean that.
[00:29:08]  They couldn't really be saying these things.
[00:29:09]  They couldn't really be doing those things.
[00:29:10]  They don't really want to murder Trump.
[00:29:12]  They don't really want to murder us.
[00:29:14]  They don't really want to bilk the taxpayer for hundreds of billions of dollars and give it to foreign criminals.
[00:29:19]  But they do.
[00:29:20]  But they do.
[00:29:21]  And they've told us this ad nauseum.
[00:29:25]  Ad infinitum, they've told us this.

=== UFO Disclosure And Conspiracy (15:44) ===

[00:29:27]  Do we believe that?
[00:29:28]  And do we believe it enough to get past our petty squabbles and get past our disappointments or whatever?
[00:29:35]  and unify to keep these people out of power.
[00:29:39]  It's not just that this is not your grandma's Democrat Party, we sometimes say.
[00:29:44]  This is not the Democratic Party of six years ago.
[00:29:49]  This is Barack Obama's Democrat Party, but Obama was this real transitional figure where he pretended to be the moderate milquetoast liberal, but in fact, he was quite a radical who's publishing videos with a guy who's openly calling for the murder of President Trump.
[00:30:01]  Now, speaking of exposure, you know what today is, don't you?
[00:30:07]  Today is disclosure day.
[00:30:10]  The Trump administration is reportedly, at the behest of Congress, going to be releasing all sorts of materials on UFOs.
[00:30:17]  Now they call them UAPs, aliens, ET.
[00:30:21]  Coming out today.
[00:30:22]  You have all these people really building this up in the press for weeks and weeks and weeks.
[00:30:26]  One strange phenomenon so all these pastors coming out, all of these pastors that no one's ever heard of, coming out and saying that they were being briefed by the government on how to prepare the church.
[00:30:38]  How to prepare their flock for the shocking revelations to come out of the disclosure of ET.
[00:30:45]  This year, there is coming a massive disclosure.
[00:30:49]  The truth, as the government knows it, about UFOs and UAPs is going to be disclosed to the population.
[00:30:56]  The Trump administration is going to attempt to make history in an historic announcement where they're going to say that these non terrestrial interdimensional beings are real.
[00:31:09]  And that we do have unexplained phenomena among us.
[00:31:12]  This is going to be huge.
[00:31:14]  Many so called Christians are going to be taken captive by it.
[00:31:18]  We have got to speak on this first.
[00:31:21]  It's time for every single pastor to teach on this.
[00:31:25]  What does the Bible say about non human entities?
[00:31:29]  Now, you have noticed that the language has changed in these Department of Defense meetings as well as in these congressional hearings.
[00:31:36]  They're no longer saying extraterrestrial, they're saying non human entities.
[00:31:41]  Are there non human entities in the Bible who attempt to influence mankind?
[00:31:46]  The answer to the question is yes.
[00:31:49]  So, this is like the most sane version of the pastors coming out and discussing this that I've seen.
[00:31:58]  There are some saying, Oh, I met in a trailer.
[00:32:00]  The government came to me.
[00:32:01]  I met in a trailer in the middle of Tennessee, and they're telling us we need to prepare the flocks, and this is all out.
[00:32:06]  So, at a very basic level, what he's saying about non human intelligence jibing with the Bible is totally right.
[00:32:15]  I don't think aliens really jibe with the Bible.
[00:32:17]  I don't think.
[00:32:18]  I don't know.
[00:32:18]  The church has never declared. definitively ruled on it, but I don't really buy aliens, you know, ET.
[00:32:23]  But non-human intelligence, of course I believe that.
[00:32:26]  Of course, there are angels and demons.
[00:32:29]  There is God.
[00:32:31]  And Christ is a man.
[00:32:32]  It's fully man and also fully God.
[00:32:36]  So obviously there's non-human intelligence.
[00:32:39]  Indeed, it is a non-human intelligence that made us.
[00:32:43]  Though it's a non-human intelligence that is united with human nature in the incarnation.
[00:32:47]  Nevertheless, There are people warning that some of the disclosure is going to contradict the Bible.
[00:32:54]  It's going to make Christians rethink the Bible.
[00:32:57]  And that one cannot be true.
[00:33:00]  If you're a believing Christian, you shouldn't be afraid of the disclosure.
[00:33:05]  You should be skeptical of it, but you shouldn't be afraid of the disclosure because we believe that our religion is true.
[00:33:11]  And one of the proofs of the truth of our religion is that it is not just arrived at through deductive reasoning or private revelation, but that God reveals himself.
[00:33:21]  in history, in the act of the incarnation, in the Nativity and in the crucifixion and in the resurrection.
[00:33:28]  St. Paul tells us, if the resurrection is false, then we are most to be pitied.
[00:33:33]  But we take it as a fact that our religion is true.
[00:33:39]  And unlike other religions, religious traditions, is proven throughout history, that we can see it.
[00:33:48]  And God leaves us a visible church and all the rest.
[00:33:52]  So we don't need to be afraid of this.
[00:33:53]  I know some people from certain religious traditions, they're really afraid of scientific discovery.
[00:33:57]  They really come out strongly against certain scientific theories.
[00:34:01]  And I can at least speak as a mackerel snapping papist.
[00:34:04]  The Catholic Church doesn't do this.
[00:34:06]  The Catholic Church has had an astronomical observatory for centuries.
[00:34:11]  It was indeed a Catholic priest who first theorized the Big Bang, which was called the Big Bang because it was being mocked for supposedly vindicating the Genesis account of creation.
[00:34:24]  That God created something out of nothing.
[00:34:27]  Father Georges Lemaitre, who discovered or theorized the Big Bang, said that he didn't want to delve into the theological implications of it.
[00:34:35]  But that's why people called it the Big Bang.
[00:34:36]  It was a term of derision.
[00:34:38]  So we don't need to be afraid of this, but we should be pretty skeptical.
[00:34:41]  I'm going to make a prediction now.
[00:34:43]  I'm going to make a prediction.
[00:34:44]  As far as I know, the disclosure has not happened yet.
[00:34:47]  Everyone's really, really excited about it.
[00:34:49]  I predict that it will be nothing.
[00:34:54]  I predict that it will be a big bunch of nothing, that there will be no proof of ET.
[00:34:59]  That it will not contradict the Bible, that everyone is waiting for a big nothing.
[00:35:06]  Now, my colleague Matt Walsh is very pro-alien.
[00:35:10]  I don't know.
[00:35:10]  Maybe he's waiting on tenterhooks.
[00:35:12]  I don't know.
[00:35:13]  But I'm laying my prediction out now.
[00:35:15]  The disclosure, which will happen any minute, we'll talk about it on Monday, will be nothing.
[00:35:21]  Now, the one uncomfortable thing here is that that prediction puts me on the same page as Barack Obama, who previously said aliens do exist.
[00:35:29]  He said this on a podcast.
[00:35:31]  And then now he was grilled on this by Stephen Colbert.
[00:35:34]  He says, no, I was just kidding.
[00:35:36]  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
[00:35:37]  There's no such thing as aliens.
[00:35:40]  Earlier this year, you said of aliens.
[00:35:44]  Yes.
[00:35:45]  Quote, they're real, but I haven't seen them.
[00:35:47]  Then you tried to walk it back the next day.
[00:35:51]  You know, no one believed you, right?
[00:35:53]  I thought it was so obvious what I meant.
[00:35:55]  Uh huh.
[00:35:56]  Yes.
[00:35:56]  Oh, it was obvious what you meant.
[00:35:58]  And we all got the message.
[00:36:00]  Here's the thing.
[00:36:01]  Uh huh.
[00:36:01]  For those of you who still think that, you know, we've got little green men underground somewhere.
[00:36:08]  Yeah?
[00:36:09]  One of the things you learn as president is government is terrible at keeping secrets.
[00:36:17]  This idea of conspiracy theories.
[00:36:20]  If there were aliens or alien spaceships or anything under the control of the United States government that we knew about, seen, photographs, what have you, I promise you some guy guarding the installation would have taken a selfie with one of the aliens and sent it to his girlfriend to impress him.
[00:36:42]  Or there'd be like hints.
[00:36:43]  There'd be like certain hints out there, like a presidential center would look like a scout ship that's just come down from low orbit and landed in Chicago.
[00:36:51]  That would happen, something like that.
[00:36:53]  It could happen.
[00:36:54]  Okay.
[00:36:54]  And do you wish they were real?
[00:36:57]  I actually do.
[00:36:58]  I actually do.
[00:36:59]  Okay.
[00:36:59]  That's, I was agreeing with Obama for the first time in my life.
[00:37:02]  I was agreeing with Obama until that very last bit.
[00:37:05]  I hate to say it.
[00:37:06]  Mark it down in history.
[00:37:07]  I agreed with Obama.
[00:37:08]  Shoot me.
[00:37:09]  Okay.
[00:37:09]  Don't shoot me.
[00:37:10]  I know the liberal, the libs want to shoot all of us.
[00:37:12]  Don't do that.
[00:37:13]  I did agree with Obama.
[00:37:15]  I did.
[00:37:16]  Okay.
[00:37:17]  Until this thing, I do wish aliens were real.
[00:37:19]  And I see why they, the libs and the secularists wish that, In popular culture, people wish that aliens are real because they have a disenchanted view of the world.
[00:37:28]  In the Middle Ages, people didn't wish that aliens were real.
[00:37:30]  In modernity, we wish that aliens are real because we've decided that angels and demons aren't real, because we've decided that God isn't real, because we've decided that meaning and love and the eternal soul, because we've decided that all of these things that we infer from the creation that we know deep down exist, we've decided that they're not real.
[00:37:48]  So we need something marvelous and we just make it materialist.
[00:37:52]  We just call them aliens.
[00:37:54]  But Aliens are not real and angels and demons are real.
[00:37:58]  One last thing.
[00:37:58]  I know I'm running late.
[00:37:59]  I don't care.
[00:38:00]  One last thing from that Obama interview that is much more relevant to all of us.
[00:38:06]  Barack Obama had the temerity to come out and lament that this Republican Party is very, very different from the old Republican Party and that he wishes, he wishes that, you know, he's so concerned about the Republican Party that we could just return to the good old days.
[00:38:26]  You're right.
[00:38:27]  The presidential center is nonpartisan.
[00:38:29]  And the reason I want to mention that is because I'm worried about the Republican Party, not just the Democratic Party.
[00:38:37]  When I was president, people would ask me, well, what change would you like to see in Washington?
[00:38:42]  I'd say, I'd love a loyal opposition.
[00:38:47]  I'd love a Republican Party that was conservative in some ways, that didn't agree with me on a whole bunch of stuff.
[00:38:57]  Believed in rule of law and judicial independence and empirical evidence and science and wasn't constantly tapping into our worst impulses.
[00:39:12]  And there has been a Republican Party like that in the past, and I want to see that returned because I think you have to have two healthy parties.
[00:39:20]  Barack Obama, who said in May of 2011, he said, Some people want me to issue an executive amnesty.
[00:39:27]  Without the involvement of Congress.
[00:39:29]  But I can't do that.
[00:39:30]  That's not how democracy works.
[00:39:32]  One year later, he issued the executive amnesty for 835,000 illegal aliens that he himself had already admitted was unconstitutional.
[00:39:43]  He has the temerity to talk about the rule of law.
[00:39:45]  If only we had the rule of law, if only we had judicial independence, this man's party, this man who broke a lot of tradition by at the State of the Union criticizing the Supreme Court for a decision in Citizens United to allow free speech in elections, and this man whose Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer, went out and threatened Supreme Court justices, one of whom had a liberal from California show up at his house and try to kill him and potentially his whole family.
[00:40:12]  He said, Oh, if only we had a loyal opposition, weren't threatening the rule of law.
[00:40:17]  The gall is shocking, but the longing is real.
[00:40:22]  What is he really longing for?
[00:40:23]  He's not longing for a Republican Party that supports the rule of law.
[00:40:26]  We've restored the rule of law.
[00:40:27]  He's not longing for a Republican Party that respects judicial independence.
[00:40:31]  The Republicans, the conservatives, have been far more in favor of judicial independence than the Democrats who have been rather activist, than the Democrats who infamously, going back now some 80, 90 years, famously threatened to destroy the Supreme Court if they didn't rubber stamp FDR's New Deal programs, which they had been regularly, rightly pointing out were unconstitutional.
[00:40:54]  What Barack Obama is longing for is an ineffective Republican Party.
[00:40:58]  That's what he's saying.
[00:40:59]  He's concerned because the Republican Party wins.
[00:41:01]  We have a unified government now.
[00:41:02]  The Republican Party won the popular vote for the first time in 20 years, thanks to President Trump.
[00:41:06]  The Republican Party is on the right side of virtually all of the issues, according to public opinion polls.
[00:41:13]  And the Democrats are so politically frustrated that they have now resorted openly to calls to kill us.
[00:41:23]  To say nothing of packing the Supreme Court, of undermining election rules and the like.
[00:41:29]  That's what he says.
[00:41:30]  I just wish we'd get back.
[00:41:32]  I'm concerned.
[00:41:34]  I want a good Republican Party that can always lose, but that can legitimize the Democrat Party rule.
[00:41:40]  Because if we just take power and we kill all our enemies, then we're going to look like we're tyrants.
[00:41:45]  We're going to look like autocrats.
[00:41:46]  So what we need is a Republican Party that is a Potemkin Party, is a Republican Party that seems like it's an opposition, but actually just rolls over and does whatever we say.
[00:41:56]  That's what I long for.
[00:41:57]  Yeah, sorry, we're not giving it to you.
[00:41:59]  We're going to be the Republican Party that wins.
[00:42:00]  We're going to be the Republican Party that wields power.
[00:42:03]  We're going to be the Republican Party that deports a lot of people.
[00:42:06]  We're going to be the Republican Party that prosecutes guys in your party who commit crimes.
[00:42:09]  That's the Republican Party we're going to be.
[00:42:11]  Or there's no need for a Republican Party.
[00:42:13]  There's a lot more to say first, though.
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[00:42:16]  It's May.
[00:42:17]  May means it's mental health month.
[00:42:19]  And with everything going on in the world today, most people could use some help on that front.
[00:42:23]  We hear a lot about mindfulness and stress reduction.
[00:42:26]  Well, you know what we don't hear a ton about?
[00:42:29]  Prayer.
[00:42:30]  How prayer specifically, one, is good in itself because you should talk to God.
[00:42:33]  But two, prayer has been shown to reduce stress, improve mental health, and even lower cortisol levels.
[00:42:40]  What's amazing is actually when you pray the rosary, it syncs up your breathing with your cardiovascular rhythm.
[00:42:49]  It's quite amazing, and I highly recommend you do it.
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[00:42:57]  If a man is feeling stretched thin, juggling responsibilities, expectations, and constant demands for his attention, He's not alone.
[00:43:04]  I tell you, this week, I feel it.
[00:43:05]  I feel it more than usual.
[00:43:06]  Maybe you do too.
[00:43:08]  This time of year only adds to it.
[00:43:09]  Detachment doesn't mean caring less.
[00:43:11]  It means letting go of what he cannot control and placing it in God's hands.
[00:43:14]  Because his work, his family, and his responsibilities matter, but they were never meant to carry the full weight of his heart.
[00:43:20]  Through simple daily prayer and reflection, this challenge helps him find real peace, not based on circumstances, but rooted in trust.
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[00:43:58]  Take it away.
[00:44:00]  Good morning, Michael.
[00:44:00]  This is Arun.
[00:44:01]  So I want to get your take on the recent pair of Groyper candidates in the midterm primaries, specifically Casey Putsch.
[00:44:08]  Who called Vivek a foreign invader who should be shot, and for some reason glazes Hitler and has beer hall rallies, and James Fishback, who calls his opponent Byron Donalds racial slurs that I probably shouldn't repeat on your show.
[00:44:24]  Now, at least in Putsch's case, he was categorically rejected by Republican voters in a primary, and it looks like James Fishback is going to do even worse.
[00:44:34]  So I'm curious why do you think these two people are taking actions that serve no other purpose?
[00:44:41]  Than to malign Republicans as racist when we are going into a general election that we need to win.
[00:44:47]  Thank you, as always, for your wisdom.
[00:44:49]  Excellent question, Arun, because it allows me to make the point.
[00:44:52]  You know how much I hate to say I told you so.
[00:44:54]  It allows me to make the point that I might be the most vindicated man in podcasting.
[00:44:59]  You know, I hate to brag, but I think I might be the most vindicated man in podcasting because when all the podcast wars were going on with all the radicalism and the sensationalism and a lot of insults and the.

=== Media Phenomenon Of Violence (04:53) ===

[00:45:11]  Opposed civil war that the podcasters represented within the Republican Party.
[00:45:17]  I came out as the voice of one crying in the wilderness, and I caught so much flack for it from everybody.
[00:45:25]  I came out and I said, I don't think that this is a politically serious phenomenon.
[00:45:31]  I think this is a media phenomenon.
[00:45:33]  I think it is a phenomenon that might change views and clicks, but it doesn't really change votes.
[00:45:38]  It is metapolitical, not properly political.
[00:45:41]  It doesn't really have to do with the things that we all say that we're doing, which is trying to.
[00:45:46]  Win elections, pass policies, and advance the common good of the people.
[00:45:50]  I said, I think this is kind of a distraction and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be dragged down into it.
[00:45:56]  And I was 100% correct.
[00:46:00]  I was like, I was 150% correct about this.
[00:46:03]  I got a question actually about this at TPUSA.
[00:46:06]  I was there with Matt at the University of Idaho when Erica very kindly invited us to do one of the stops on the TPUSA tour.
[00:46:13]  And someone said, Michael, you've claimed.
[00:46:17]  That a lot of this, the kind of podcast war stuff, is not really all that politically serious.
[00:46:23]  But James Fishback, who is one of the candidates you're referencing in Florida, he is running for governor.
[00:46:30]  And I said, right, he's running for governor.
[00:46:31]  He's pulling at like 2%.
[00:46:32]  So that totally makes my point.
[00:46:36]  The guy who was just running, where was that?
[00:46:38]  I don't even remember his name, Casey Puch, the guy who was running in Ohio.
[00:46:42]  The fake blew him out of the water.
[00:46:44]  It wasn't even close.
[00:46:46]  And so what is this really about?
[00:46:49]  Well, I don't think, as you're suspecting, Arun, I don't think it's that these are sleeper cell Democrat candidates who are being sent here by the CIA to undermine the Republicans' chances.
[00:46:59]  I don't think it's that.
[00:47:00]  I think that my thesis is still right.
[00:47:05]  My thesis is obviously right, but I think it's like fully right.
[00:47:08]  I think it's comprehensively right.
[00:47:10]  Not just that the podcast war, clickbait kind of, you know, edgelord posting is not properly political, but that even the candidates who are running in this way are really.
[00:47:22]  Doing media.
[00:47:23]  They're really chasing clicks more than they're chasing votes, which is fine, I guess.
[00:47:27]  You know, like I'm in media, I'm in political media, so I get it.
[00:47:31]  I don't really do that so much, but I get it.
[00:47:34]  But they're playing a different game.
[00:47:36]  The incentives of people who are doing media, especially new media, are just different from the incentives of the people who are doing politics, who are running for office, who are trying to pass laws.
[00:47:46]  So the candidates who run this way are going to get a ton of heat online.
[00:47:49]  They're going to get a ton of clicks, a ton of views.
[00:47:51]  They can launch podcasts.
[00:47:52]  They can go on shows and whatever.
[00:47:54]  But they're not going to win votes and they're not going to win elections.
[00:47:57]  And I don't even think that's really what they're after.
[00:47:58]  Okay, next question.
[00:48:01]  Hey, Michael Giorgio here.
[00:48:04]  Since the left is obviously trying to kill us and wants us dead, when is armed resistance justified?
[00:48:13]  Hello, federal agent.
[00:48:14]  Yes.
[00:48:15]  Hello.
[00:48:15]  Hello.
[00:48:16]  From federal agent 325.
[00:48:18]  Hey, Michael, when are we going to go murder the Democrats?
[00:48:21]  I don't think we should do that.
[00:48:22]  I think that would be a bad idea because violence properly belongs to the civil authority.
[00:48:31]  Vigilantism is wrong.
[00:48:33]  And revolution is wrong in virtually all cases.
[00:48:37]  If what you're saying is the libs are trying to kill us, and therefore at a certain point it could get bad enough that we need to take up arms against them, what is that point?
[00:48:47]  I'd say that point would be when the civil authority is in total collapse.
[00:48:52]  This draws on just war tradition, as we've spoken about a lot lately, especially in regard to the Iran war.
[00:48:58]  This draws from St. Thomas Aquinas, who it's been several hours since I've mentioned St. Thomas.
[00:49:02]  But it's not that one can never take up arms against a tyrannical power, but it has to be really extreme.
[00:49:09]  And even in that case, a revolution needs to be undertaken according to the principles of subsidiarity.
[00:49:16]  So, by some form of authority.
[00:49:18]  In fact, that is how the American Revolution took place.
[00:49:20]  It's one of the things that distinguished it from the French Revolution.
[00:49:23]  But if you're asking when should we pick up our guns and start slaughtering the Libs, the answer is basically never.
[00:49:30]  Or at the most extreme situation, you would have to have the entire collapse of anything resembling a civil authority.
[00:49:38]  You'd have to be in Mad Max, basically, for that to make sense.
[00:49:42]  Much more to get to, written mailbag, call-in mailbag, but the time has come for the member segmentum.
[00:49:49]  We have a very, very intense fake headline Friday today because I ended my six-month winning streak last week.
[00:49:56]  I'm still smarting from that.
[00:49:57]  The rest of the show continues now.
[00:49:58]  We'll see if I can get my mojo back.
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