Ep. 1960 - GROSS: Gavin Newsom Is A Political "Bugchaser"
Gavin Newsom intentionally floods California with HIV+ illegals, the cartoon "Invincible" promotes abortion, and Rep. Brad Knott reveals Republicans' FISA surveillance fight.
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A new report reveals that California Governor Gavin Newsom has not only intentionally flooded his state with illegal aliens, but he has specifically sought out and subsidized the importation of illegal aliens with HIV.
We will analyze Democrats' political bug chasing.
Then, a popular cartoon.
Depicts abortion in the most nauseating way, perhaps in the history of media.
And Congressman Brad Knott joins to discuss the FISA surveillance fight tearing top Republicans apart.
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It's really weird.
We have so much to get to today.
I'll keep it brief, but I couldn't have written this one.
This is like a mad libs of immigration.
Yes, of course, the Democrat governor of California, who is currently the leader to be the Democrat nominee for president.
Yes, of course, he's supported open borders in recent years.
That's crazy enough.
He's also subsidized the open borders.
That's pretty, it's a little crazier.
Immigration and HIV Risks00:07:41
But the fact that he has subsidized bringing in illegal aliens, specifically who have HIV, that wasn't on my bingo card.
Got to give a hat tip.
To Chris Rufo.
He gets it done again.
Chris Rufo just absolutely crushing it.
I encourage you to read the full report in City Journal.
I'll just give you a little taste of it.
In the City Journal investigation, we've traced the money and can reveal that Governor Kevin Newsom has granted approximately $1 billion to an army of nonprofits that has encouraged unchecked numbers of migrants to enter the country, fought deportation orders in the courts, and led street protests against ICE.
Skip down a little bit.
We get to one of those nonprofits that received some of the billion dollars from Gavin Newsom.
Adam Ryan Chang, Oasis' executive director, believes that, quote, homosexual audacity is his superpower.
And he has framed his work with the nonprofit as part of a broader left-wing campaign of liberating the LGBTQ community.
In a recent annual report, the group highlighted its work of apparently representing migrants with a sexually transmitted disease.
In 2024, the report said one in six new clients is living with HIV, and the rest are all at significant risk of contracting HIV.
I like the clinical language for that.
So, look, one in six, that's crazy.
One in six is about to get AIDS.
That's nuts.
AIDS is a very bad disease.
But to say, and the rest of them are all at risk.
Why are they at the way you're at risk of contracting HIV is when you go to like gay bathhouses.
It's when you engage in extremely irresponsible, deviant sexual behavior.
That's it.
I know in the 90s there was this big push to suggest that there was a wide pandemic of heterosexual AIDS.
It's not real.
It's possible that, like in Africa, a woman could contract HIV because her husband is doing weird stuff with other men.
But the idea that there is some widespread epidemic of heterosexual AIDS just isn't true.
So you say, okay, our clients, one in six of them have HIV, and the rest of them are probably going to get it at some point.
In 2025, the proportion increased to one in five.
So this nonprofit is bragging about how much AIDS the clients are getting, the clients that they are receiving state money to bring into the United States against the law.
In response to a request for comment, Chang said people, quote, living with HIV, are not barred from entering the United States on that basis.
That's true.
That's true.
People are not barred from entering the U.S. if they have HIV.
I suppose one could debate whether or not they should be, but that's absolutely right.
They're not barred from that.
But there's a big difference between not being barred from entering the United States legally and actively being recruited, subsidized with your taxpayer dollars to find the AIDSiest people in the world and then bring them into the United States against the law.
That's the people who are at high risk, by the way, of contracting and spreading HIV to infect the citizens of this country with one of the worst diseases that you can imagine.
Gavin Newsom doing all of that.
So I said, What on earth is going on here?
And I remembered this term.
There's this term that I read about years ago called bug chasing.
Have you heard the term bug chasing?
I don't want to be too late.
It's guys who not only are indifferent to contracting HIV, it's guys who are so deviant that they want to catch it.
They put themselves in a position to get HIV, they get a thrill, some kind of Extremely perverse thrill at the thought of getting HIV, and they actively go to contract it.
And I thought, you know, at the political level, that's exactly what Gavin Newsom's doing.
Gavin Newsom is a political bug chaser.
He's a bug chaser.
And then I looked up a study on bug chasing.
I said, what is the psychological profile of this niche, weird, fetishistic community that actively seeks to get HIV?
And there's, oddly, some scientific literature on the subject.
Here's one study, The Ultimate High Sexual Addiction and the Bug Chasing Phenomenon, explaining what kind of guys would go out there and try to do this.
And apparently, one of the big drivers of bug chasing of guys who want to get HIV is they want to be humiliated.
And I thought, well, this explains it at the political level.
Because that is what the Democrats want.
I mean, in this case, literally, you have a Democrat governor and the leading candidate for the presidential nomination for the Dems in 2028.
This guy is actively going out recruiting people with HIV to break our laws and come into our country and very likely infect other people.
So, literally, you have Gavin Newsom politically bug chasing here, but it comes from the same motivation as this weird niche subculture, which is a desire for humiliation.
Illegal immigration is humiliating to a country.
Forget about HIV for a second.
Illegal immigration itself is humiliating to a country because it means that we can't enforce our most basic laws.
We lack the thing that most basically delineates us as a country, namely a functioning border.
And our citizens have no real rights, no real sovereignty, because we don't have the political right to determine what is our country and what is not our country.
That is humiliating.
And that is a big part of the reason why the Dems do it.
The Dems want to humiliate our country.
They want us to be weak.
They want to blame us for everything.
They want to, out of this misplaced sense of guilt, flood the country with foreign nationals.
They want to.
Constantly take the side of the perpetrators of crimes.
They constantly take justice away from the victims of crimes.
They want to humiliate the victims of crime, just ordinary crime on the streets.
They want to humiliate us.
They want America to be taken down a notch.
As Governor Andrew Cuomo said, another Democrat governor of a blue state, America was never that great.
Remember that during the MAGA movement?
He says, make America great again.
America was never that great.
We're not that great.
We're bad.
We're slavers.
We're colonialists.
We're capitalists.
We're the worst people in the world.
We're bad.
We need to be taken down a notch.
That's it.
And so, not to get into too much psycho babble, but at a very deep level, I'm not surprised that the ultimate form of personal degradation and humiliation.
That you see in this weird subculture is now literally become a political program with one of the most prominent Democrats in the country.
Probably a good idea, probably a good idea to keep that guy out of the White House.
Even at the kind of immigrants we bring in, talk about the humiliation.
It's not even like we're going out to the rest of the world and saying, hey, give us your smartest, your brightest, your bravest.
No.
We want people from the worst countries with the fewest skills.
From the least assimilable cultures, we want to be humiliated.
Well, I don't want to be humiliated.
Democrats want us to be humiliated.
I don't want to.
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Do you know the show Invincible?
I guess Invincible is on Amazon.
I don't know.
I didn't know what this show was.
It's a cartoon that adults watch, kids watch it too.
It's based on a comic book.
Mr. Davies texted me about this last night.
He said, You got to cover the Invincible story.
I said, What's that?
He said, Well, it's this comic book that became a TV show and it's this cartoon that guys watch.
I said, Hey, Ben, Ben, explain this to me like I'm a grown man.
Can you explain this story to me like I don't watch?
I don't listen.
I don't want to yuck anybody's yum.
A lot of subcultures out there, but I hadn't heard of this show.
And apparently it's very, very popular.
It's been on for about five years.
And in the most recent episode, the guy, the protagonist, has gone off to save the universe.
He had to go, leave his girlfriend to go save the universe.
Then he was going to come back.
In the meantime, the girlfriend decided to kill his child.
And then this is how the revelation of this crime plays out.
I had an abortion.
I was pregnant, Mark.
And I found out just before you left.
I don't.
Please, let me.
I need to say it all first, okay?
I didn't.
I didn't tell you because I wanted you thinking about coming home alive, not this.
And when you were gone, I was so alone.
And the thought of going through everything by myself, like.
I made a decision.
But I should have.
I don't know.
Oh my god.
Eve.
I'm sorry I did this to you.
I should have been here.
Oh my.
Oh my.
The superhero goes away to save the universe.
And when he comes back to thank him, his girlfriend gets a little chubby and kills his child.
And then, as if that weren't bad enough, his response is I'm so sorry that I did this to you.
I'm sorry that I. Went off to save the universe and that you were a little lonely.
I mean, you still have like friends and family, but you were a little upset that your husband was saving the universe.
So you murdered my child.
I'm sorry.
That's on me.
My bad.
Just for comparison, I immediately my mind went to a similar scenario.
Not perfectly yet.
The details don't perfectly line up, but it's similar enough to compare how.
An abortion revelation scene played out in our popular media about 40, 50 years ago.
I know you blamed me for losing a baby.
Yes.
I know what that meant to you.
I'll make it up to you, Kay.
Oh.
Oh, Michael.
Michael, you are blind.
It wasn't a miscarriage.
It was an abortion.
An abortion, Michael.
Just like our marriage is an abortion.
Something that's unholy and evil.
I didn't want your son, Michael.
I wouldn't bring another one of your sons into this world.
It was an abortion, Michael.
It was a son, a son, and I had it killed because this must all end.
I know now that it's over.
There would be no way, Michael, no way you could ever forgive me.
Not with this Sicilian thing that's been going on for 2,000 years.
So that's how that scene played out.
Not that long ago, in one of the greatest movies ever made.
Not that I look, I'm not saying I'm defending that kind of behavior from a man, but those were the emotional stakes in The Godfather.
Okay.
The woman comes out and says, Hey, while you were away, I had an abortion.
And the man doesn't say, Oh, I'm sorry I did that to you.
I'm sorry I, what did I do to you?
I went to work and I also gave you a child.
I'm sorry that I did that to you.
Oh, I'm sorry that I made you kill my son.
That was teary eyed.
That was not.
How it played out 50 years ago.
50 years ago, the man was so angry at this grave injustice that he himself did an unjust thing, which is go, he smacks the woman.
Quite the opposite response.
And notice here, Kay, Diane Keaton, how she plays it.
When she says, I had an abortion, Michael, she says, You gave me a son and I killed him.
So there's no confusion about what she did.
She says, I killed him.
Abortion is murder and I committed a murder because you.
Godfather Michael are evil because you, mafioso, are evil.
And so I made this moral error, but I did it.
Here's my rationale.
But I did commit a crime.
Notice in the cartoon, she says, Well, I made a choice.
She doesn't say, I killed him.
She says, I made a choice.
And then she almost starts to say in the cartoon, I just, maybe I should have, maybe I shouldn't have, maybe, but she can't even say, That she regrets it or that she should have spoken to him first.
That was obviously what was being left on the table there.
Maybe I should have called you, talked to you, should have waited, but they can't even say that.
They can't even admit that.
And I think for the pro abortion people in 2026, they are much weaker and they are much more self deluded and they're much more dishonest than the pro abortion activists of the 70s.
You know, the pro abortion activists of the 70s say what you will about them, they had an infanticidal bloodlust, but at least they were honest about what they were doing.
This is how you get Hillary Clinton, even Hillary Clinton running for president saying abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.
The reason she acknowledges that it should be rare is because she knows it's murdering a baby.
And she comes to the wrong moral conclusion, which is that it's okay to murder a baby if I want to.
But she at least acknowledges what it is.
The abortion activists today won't do that.
They only speak in euphemisms.
It was a choice.
It was reproductive health.
It was, and really it's, you need to support me.
And it's actually wonderful when I kill my kid.
And actually, if I kill my kid, it's your fault.
And that's how it plays out in the popular culture.
Not recommending either of these behaviors, either the cartoon lady or Michael Corleone here, but one of them is much more in tune with reality.
Okay.
Government Authority Sticking Points00:14:36
Speaking of moral questions, Papaleone, the Pope, the Holy Father, who happily, that little spat between the President and the Pope, that's over now.
Seems like they're getting along just fine.
That's excellent.
Very pleased to see that.
The secular and the temporal, sorry, the temporal and the spiritual power need to work together, even though there's always some tension.
But some people have taken that opportunity.
To accuse the Pope of being a liberal or a leftist or something, which is really silly because, on the whole, the sovereign pontiff is much more right wing than any American politician by definition.
The terms left and right come from the French Revolution when the people on the right were the ones who defended the church and the people on the left were the ones who wanted to destroy the church.
So, when you look down, certainly on the social issues, contraception, abortion, marriage, the Pope, really any Pope, even the most liberal Pope, is much more.
Conservative than the most conservative American politician.
And then on the other issues, you know, migration, the Pope is a little bit more liberal, a little bit more moderate, I guess you would say.
But even the Pope will say, nations need borders.
It's totally right to have immigration laws.
So even there, I think it's kind of silly.
But on this, just to underscore this point, the Pope was asked about these German bishops.
The German bishops who have been a big problem for a long time, they're basically in schism with the church.
They constantly promote heresy.
So there's this one German bishop, Cardinal Marx.
Cardinal Marx, it's amazing.
If you abbreviate Cardinal, you take out the D-I-N-A, dot, dot, dot.
It's Karl Marx.
Karl Marx says he wants to issue apostolic blessings, episcopal blessings to same-sex married couples.
Pope Leo asked about that.
Here's his answer.
The Holy See has already spoken to the German bishops.
The Holy See has made it clear that we do not agree with the formalized blessing of couples, in this case homosexual couples as you ask, or couples in irregular situations, beyond what was specifically, if you will, allowed for by Pope Francis in saying all people receive blessings.
When a priest gives a blessing at the end of Mass, when the Pope gives a blessing at the end of a large celebration, like such we had today, there are blessings of all people.
Francis' infamous, famous, well-known expression of tutti, tutti, tutti is an expression of the church's belief that all are welcome, all are invited, all are invited to follow Jesus, and all are invited to look for conversion in their lives.
To go beyond that today, I think that the topic can cause more disunity than unity, and that we should look for ways to build our unity upon Jesus Christ and what Jesus Christ teaches.
Beautiful, beautiful.
A deeply orthodox and conservative answer.
Conservative in the political sense, by which I mean he's asked, hey, are you going to promote this gay marriage stuff, so-called gay marriage stuff in the church?
And Leo goes, no, we're not doing that.
And by the way, we're not doing that for people who are cohabitating but not married.
And by the way, we're also not doing that for people who are divorced and civilly remarried.
We remain firm in our views, which have been consistent for 2,000 years.
Also, this is basically what Pope Francis said.
Now, Pope Francis would appear to be a little more to the left than Pope Leo.
It's one of the reasons that conservative Catholics, one of the reasons that we're pretty happy with how things are going under Pope Leo.
But notice he doesn't say, and Francis was totally wrong, and my predecessor was wrong, and I'm right.
Because that, even if the predecessor were distinctly left-wing, that very kind of rupture, that very kind of disunity, to use Pope Leo's word here, would express a radical impulse.
There's something deeply conservative about saying, no, no, no, listen to what my predecessor said.
He said that blessings are for everybody.
So yes, at the end of Mass, we give a general blessing to everybody.
Well, we're not going to say, all right, all the fanukes, get out of here, and all the divorced and civilly remarried, get out of here, and you, all the only blessings.
No, no, no.
We give a general blessing to everybody.
But we're not doing the gay marriage stuff.
That's a very conservative impulse.
Frankly, it's to the right of much of the Republican Party and most Republican politicians.
And it's the right thing to say.
And the German bishops need to figure it out.
These German bishops, good grief.
Okay.
Much more to get to on.
Disunity in Washington, D.C., especially among Republicans, because there's a major fight going on right now about an issue that was so huge for Republican voters.
That is, FISA surveillance by the government, which was being used against many ordinary conservatives.
It was used against President Trump, actually, on his campaign.
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The government has been surveilling us basically forever, but they have dramatically increased the size and scope of that surveillance in recent years.
It's been a big sticking point for conservatives.
We know that these powers of the government were being used unjustly against us, used unjustly against President Trump not that long ago.
So now there's this big fight over whether or not to reauthorize the program, how to reauthorize the program, big fight on Capitol Hill that basically no one, myself included, knows almost anything about.
That's That's how behind the scenes it's remained.
So, pleased to be joined right now by Congressman Brad Knott to explain the battle.
Congressman Knott, thank you for coming on.
Hey, Michael.
Thank you for having me.
So, Congressman, I, you know, it's my job to follow these things, at least relatively closely.
I mean, I guess really my job is I'm a cigar salesman, but my hobby is politics and media.
And so I've followed this reasonably closely, and I can't quite figure it out.
Republicans were totally unified on.
Seriously weakening the powers of the government to spy on Americans because we were the victims of it.
And now, maybe not.
Well, you highlight a very important principle here.
And let me say before we dive into the Fourth Amendment intricacies that your cigars are fantastic.
Thank you, sir.
I enjoy them.
You know, there's nothing, we've talked about this, there's nothing more enjoyable than a good cigar and good fellowship to accompany it.
But returning to FISA, you hit the nail on the head.
You know, last Congress, the 118th Congress, there was a tremendous battle, and Joe Biden was the president.
And we were discussing, I was not there, but I was following it.
Can there be a warrantless surveillance of American citizens?
And now that Republicans are in charge of the executive branch, there seems to be a little bit of a drift back to we need to maintain FISA in its current form, reauthorizing it without a warrant requirement.
And as is the case with any complex situation, there are intricacies and nuances.
But just optically speaking, that does not look very good to say when we're not in charge of the White House.
We want the warrant requirement.
When we take charge of the White House, we do not want the warrant requirement.
So there is a battle going on.
And the main concern that I have been relaying to the leadership in the House, the White House, is even under current reform structure that we achieved last Congress, the system relies exclusively on the executive branch to detect, to discover, to report, and to basically audit itself with this vast surveillance power aimed at foreigners.
That collects American citizens' data as a byproduct.
And that's the framework of the fight that we're engaged in right now.
So, right now, it's all up to the White House being honest.
And so, with this White House, I certainly trust the White House and they've done a great job.
And I was just pointing out last night, I did a hit on Fox News, but we were talking about it on the show yesterday as well, that you can see how important it is when the White House shifts because three years ago, the DOJ was partnered with the SPLC to persecute normal Americans.
Now, after an election, the DOJ is prosecuting the SPLC because they've committed fraud.
So, you know, big shifts take place.
And I really feel fine with this White House having that authority.
I think they're responsible people.
But what happens if, I hope it never happens, but it will at some point, what happens when the Democrats take power under this current structure?
Well, we know that with history as our guide, and unfortunately, even within our own government, that Intel has been used for nefarious reasons.
I mean, the Intel community has admitted to abusing the FISA powers they have to the tune of hundreds of thousands of improper searches.
And, you know, I've engaged in this type of surveillance as a former federal prosecutor.
So I've seen the system work well.
It's under a different authority.
And, you know, just as a brief summary, when I would use a warrant, To justify a wiretap of an individual, I knew that defense counsel had the right to inspect the hardware and how the warrant was executed, how the wiretap was achieved.
That gave us tremendous incentive to adhere to the letter of the law, because if there was any abuse of that authority, the court could order it revealed and the case could be closed and we could be sanctioned or worse.
And that mechanism was put into the Constitution for a reason by our founders.
The separation of Powers mechanism is an unbelievably proficient incentive not to abuse power.
And we don't have that with FISA.
And we're working towards that now.
So, what are the stakes of this?
You know, this is not a left right fight exactly.
This is an intra Republican fight right now.
Where does it stand?
What is the timeline?
Who needs to be persuaded?
And more importantly, what is the optimal solution to allow the government to go get the bad guys, especially foreign bad guys, but also to protect our rights as Americans so that we aren't abused by the Future politicians.
Sure.
Well, the stakes are we have a FISA reauthorization that is up and it expires at, I believe, the end of next week or roughly somewhere in that ballpark, the end of April anyway.
And if we do not reauthorize FISA, then it could potentially slow down the accumulation of data that's aimed again at foreign citizens.
None of the Republicans are disgruntled about the foreign citizens, people who are outside the United States working to harm the United States.
It's the byproduct.
It's the incidental collection of the American citizens' information.
And so, to really get this right once and for all, Michael, there's a lot of intricacies because the technology, the collections, all those are very classified, but they're very broad.
And you can't apply the Fourth Amendment if you don't understand the hardware, so to speak.
How does it work?
How does the data present itself?
How is it queried or searched?
And then, how long do we have it?
How long is it able to be utilized against the individuals?
That they're captured.
So there's a lot of questions there that are very specific that would necessarily take us into the bowels of classifications.
And that is one reason for the friction and I would say the difficulty in getting this right.
So, real quick before I let you go, what do we need to get done between now?
If this is going to come up next week, what needs to be done between now and then?
Who needs to go get in a room, sit at a table, hash it out?
You know, we pick up our pens and call our congressmen.
What do we need to ask for?
What we need to do is we need to insist that the FISA powers are reauthorized within the constitutional framework so that there is a separation of power, that the intelligence community cannot be tasked with policing itself if they're searching American citizens' data.
And achieving that is going to require a lot of legwork on the Republican side only, because I don't think that the Democrats are going to act in good faith.
And so it's going to be a very academic, a very focused, and a very constitutionally centered.
Debate going on that we need to get done.
Well, we know the Dems aren't going to act in good faith.
In fact, that's the whole reason that people are concerned about this.
It's because the minute the Democrats get back into power, we know what they're going to do because they've done it before.
Congressman, I don't envy your task because, you know, first of all, getting Republicans together in our nation's capital is like herding cats generally.
But that is the real hard, meticulous work of government.
It's very, very important.
We talk a lot about the stakes of elections, the stakes of shifts in power.
This is a big one.
This power was used against us, and we need to make sure we get it right.
Congressman, thank you for coming on the show.
I look forward to a cigar together at some point soon.
Messiah Prophecy Advice00:08:40
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Thank you, Michael.
Good to see you.
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Hey, Michael, it's the professor here.
I want to pay you back real quick for all the times you tried to rip me away from Judaism and bring me to Catholicism.
I want to challenge your Catholicism real quick.
Let me give you a Bible verse.
It's Zechariah 8 23.
It's a messianic prophecy.
It talks about the age of the Messiah.
And it says, This is what the Lord Almighty says.
In those days, ten people from all languages and nations will, the Hebrew is, or, Take firm hold of one Jew by his talit, that's our prayer shawl that we wear over our shoulders, and say, Let us go with you because we have heard that God is with you.
Here's my question Why does it say that in the end of times, that's the future, when the Messiah comes, all the nations will go and grab a Jewish person by his specific prayer robe and say, We know God is with you, please show us the way?
Why doesn't it say that he's going to go up to a Catholic and, you know, go up and grab a Catholic's robe or go up and grab a Christian's robe?
How come it specifically says Jew?
Because you've acknowledged in the past that there is a difference between the Jews today and the church.
You believe the church is the spiritual Israel, but the Hebrew here says Yehudi, which is a physical nation.
The biblical term derives from Yehudi, people from Judah.
And the Jewish people today are biologically from the nation of Judah.
So why are they going to grab my prayer shawl instead of yours or one of your priests?
An excellent question, Professor.
I love that you are delving into this.
This is an excellent opportunity.
Because you say, well, you say, you know, sometime in the future when the Messiah comes, of course, we believe that the Messiah has come and has fulfilled this prophecy.
Though there are two kinds of figuration the prefiguration of the Old Testament in the New Testament, sorry, in the Old Testament of the New Testament, and then the New Testament itself prefiguring future glory, the second coming.
But in that prophecy from Zechariah, what does it say?
It says, they will grab hold of a Jew, hold on to him, and say, God is with you.
They will join him.
And you read that as, why are they going to grab me?
But it's not about you, and it's not about a future Jew.
It's not about a nice guy walking around the Diamond District of New York or walking around Boca Raton or something like that.
In my reading of the prophecy, who's the Jew?
I guess you would have to ask from the Christian perspective, who is the Bible about?
The Bible is about Christ.
And so the Jew who is being referenced, who is a literal Jew born of Mary in the line of David, is Christ.
And they, we do grab onto his shawl.
I mean, first of all, you see throughout the Gospels people literally grabbing onto his shawl and calling out to him and saying, the Canaanite woman crying out, Jesus, please save me.
Why?
What is it with you?
I've come to the people of David.
No, no, please, please.
And we see that the fulfillment of this Messiah is at once for the literal nation of Israel, but then also for the whole world.
Because in Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, nor slave, nor bond, nor male, nor female, but all are one in Christ Jesus.
But it is fulfilled when you recognize that the Jew that is being spoken about in the prophecy is not some future guy.
It's not Professor Jacob Jr.
It's Christ.
He's the Jew.
He's who it's about.
Which makes sense, by the way, even within the kind of Jewish understanding of the Hebrew Bible, because it's about this fulfillment of God's promise in the Messiah.
Other verses from Zechariah, Zechariah 9 9, rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion.
Shout aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem.
Lo, your king comes to you.
Triumphant and victorious is he, humble and riding on an ass, on a colt, the foal of an ass.
This is just before the prophecy that you're talking about.
And it is very obviously fulfilled in the Gospels when Christ enters Jerusalem on an ass.
Zechariah 12, 10.
And I will pour out on the house of David, the inhabitants of Jerusalem, a spirit of compassion and supplication, so that when they look on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him as one mourns for an only child and weep bitterly over him as one weeps over a firstborn.
He's pierced, another fulfillment that we see on the cross.
And we see the fulfillment.
Of what you're describing, they will reach out.
All of these people in the world will reach out and grab onto this Jew.
Who's the Jew?
It's Christ who comes because our God, I'm speaking of our sort of shared religion, the fullest way that we can view the religion of the Bible, the fulfillment of it is there's the literal component, and then there is a fulfillment that is not merely on the historical level, but it's also on the spiritual level.
And it's literally for this nation, this literal chosen nation.
That God picks, and it's fulfilled on the spiritual level as a fulfillment that people couldn't even have imagined.
God's glory and God's mercy and God's grace is even greater than we can imagine, of course, by definition.
And so it's spiritually for all the people of God.
That excellent question that should not trouble you at night when you're thinking about Christianity, but should actually affirm your.
Curiosity about it.
Okay, next question.
Hello, Michael.
This is your favorite international friend, Pavel.
I am wondering if you have any advice for young men how to be manly, masculine, and be a good man overall.
Please let me know what you think.
The best advice to be a good man overall obviously, you got to smoke a Mayflower cigar.
Obviously, that's my first advice.
That almost goes without saying.
But then, good advice on being a man.
I'm going to give you real practical advice just off the top of my head.
Don't complain.
It's kind of funny because my job is to complain about politics, but I don't idly complain.
I at least try not to whine.
I like to offer positive, affirmative, productive suggestions.
You see this when a man and a woman get into a tiff.
Sometimes the wife says, I'm just, I don't, well, I don't want to call out any wives in particular.
You know, a wife will come out and say, I have this problem.
And then the man comes out and says, okay, well, here's how I think you should solve it.
And then the wife inevitably says, well, I don't.
How, why are you telling me that?
I don't want you to solve my problem.
I just want you to kind of listen to me and, you know, have compassion or something.
But the man always wants to just solve the problem.
So that's one thing.
You know, don't idly complain.
Don't whine.
Don't, you know, if you got a problem, go out there and solve it.
A man should be confident, should endeavor to be comfortable in his skin.
And a man, maybe paradoxically, or this is a little addendum to that, a man should have humility.
You know, a man can never really be confident unless he's humble because the fact of the matter is we're broken people, we're flawed people, we could be bigger and stronger and smarter and tougher.
We're all going to die someday.
So you need to have some humility and therefore you need to cooperate with God's grace.
Now, a lot of the be a man advice, the real like tough guy advice, is Pelagian or is at best we would say Platonic.
You know, it's this idea that through philosophy and working out and hustling and through the cultivation of personal virtue, we can.
Be good.
But Christians say, no, there's a lot to that philosophy and there's a lot to natural virtue, but that alone will never take you to being good.
You can only be good if you cooperate with God, who is goodness himself.
Nationalism and Dual Loyalty00:05:55
So that's the other thing.
You have to be religious.
To be a man, ultimately, you have to, yeah, everybody has to be religious in some way or another because we all worship something, but you should be a man in the true religion.
Okay, next question.
Hi, I'm Kevin, and I was just kind of wondering.
Why is Trump's $120,000 bookkeeping error not treated the same as Ilhan Omar's $30 billion bookkeeping error?
Is she going to be charged with a bunch of felonies?
Yeah, the Democrats tried to pretend that Trump is some big criminal because they said that on some loan application or something, he overvalued his properties, even though it all worked out fine.
The properties are obviously very valuable and there was really no problem whatsoever.
Meanwhile, Yes, the Dems are committing massive fraud, not to mention insider trading, and not to mention all sorts of financial crimes and other sorts of crimes.
Yeah, because that prosecution of Trump was purely to keep him out of office again.
That's all it was about.
That's why they prosecuted him four times for four different reasons.
That's why the Attorney General of New York, Letitia James, ran on a platform of, I'm going to put Trump in prison.
That's why they tried to kick him off the ballot.
It was purely political.
So, no, it won't be treated the same way, even though what Ilhan Omar is accused of doing is.
Infinitely more, almost infinitely more egregious.
But no, because it was just a political op.
That's why.
Okay, next question.
Hi, Michael.
Sometimes American Catholics get accused of having dual loyalty.
It seems that we're seeing more of this recently with everything going on in Iran and the ongoing sort of clash between President Trump and Pope Leo.
So I'm curious how you would explain the relationship between church and state to a non Catholic and how the church actually understands the Roman pontiff's temporal and moral authority.
Thanks.
Very good question.
Yes, you have heard these charges of dual loyalty in American history.
It's funny because some of these charges are made of Jews today, but they were more often made of Catholics in American history.
The reason it doesn't work for Catholics is because it's true that we have a loyalty to a foreign potentate, you know, a foreign monarch, but it's of a different kind than the loyalty to our nation.
Because the loyalty that we have to the Pope, especially now that the Pope doesn't have any territory, he never had all that much territory, the loyalty that we have to the Pope is at a spiritual level.
We're not citizens of the Vatican.
I don't pay taxes to the Vatican.
I can't be conscripted into the papal suaves or something like that.
Whereas the loyalty that we have to the United States is a national loyalty.
So we have plenty of loyalties.
I have loyalty to my parents.
I have loyalty to my country.
I have loyalty to the Daily Wire.
I have loyalty to what those are all different kinds of things, right?
A country or a family or a company or whatever.
So that's the difference.
It's trickier for Jews.
I mean, this is one of the real problems with nationalism, which arose in the 19th century.
Don't forget, before the 19th century, before the big nationalist movements, the revolutions of 1848, there were all sorts of different kinds of political order.
Empire was much more popular, much more common.
And so within empire, oddly enough, groups like the Jews, who have this kind of tribal identity but lacked a territory or a state, that's actually much easier because there are all sorts of little groups that have their own kind of loyalties, but they're kind of taken within this broader empire.
When nationalism arose as a consequence of modernity, it put the Jews in a very difficult position because, and this is why the two responses, the two.
Attractions for a lot of, especially intellectual Jews, were either communism, which kind of tried to undo a lot of nationalism, or Zionism, which was a Jewish form of nationalism.
But in that case, they were kind of criticized from all angles damned if you do, damned if you don't.
That was a consequence of a major political revolution in the world order.
And so I think there are lots of problems with nationalism.
I guess it's preferable to liberal globalism, but that's why I always say two cheers for nationalism.
That's why there's a lot of kinship. between the Catholics and the Jews on this point, because really, just historically, the Catholics and the Jews are two political identities that have endured since antiquity.
And they don't fit perfectly neatly within the nationalist framework.
For the reason that when nationalism really comes about in the Peace of Westphalia, the Treaty of Augsburg, one of the conclusions of that was, eus regio, a cuius regio, eus religio, whose reign, his religion.
The idea being that after the crack up of the unity of Christendom, the sovereign, the king, could just decide what the religion was going to be for the nation.
And in the Protestant territories, that put Catholics in a really bad position, puts Jews in a tough position too.
So this is one of the issues of nationalism.
It's not a really sexy, pithy answer, and it's not going to inflame the antagonisms that people want to naturally sort of stoke, but it's just a kind of curious fact of the world order.
And I don't think that our present nation state system, I don't think the UN is going to endure for the rest of time.
There will be some other form of world order that will present its challenges and its difficulties to Catholics and Jews and all sorts of other people alike.
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