The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1948 - Trump Haters Wrong Again: Iran Ceasefire EXPLAINED In 5 Mins Aired: 2026-04-08 Duration: 49:40 === Hysteria Over Iran Threats (01:55) === [00:00:00] For three days, the entire left, joined by the neurotic right, whined and cried and rent their garments over the prospect that on Tuesday evening, last night, President Trump would detonate a nuclear weapon and then perpetrate a genocide in Iran. [00:00:22] The hysteria was based on President Trump's tweet on Easter Sunday telling Iran to, I'm paraphrasing, open the effing straight or they would all be living in hell after he wiped out their civilization, praise be to Allah. [00:00:37] Now, some of us, some of us, a small number of us actually, on the right, were not particularly worried. [00:00:47] Sorry, I should rephrase that. [00:00:48] I think people on the right generally are normal. [00:00:51] Some of us in the media on the right, we were not particularly worried. [00:00:56] Some of us actually thought the tweet was pretty funny. [00:01:01] Just as some of us, while everyone freaked out about Iran turning into an endless war, a decade long quagmire, some of us, some, some of us said to calm down. [00:01:15] That President Trump said it would be over in about five weeks. [00:01:18] Now, halfway through week six, after decimating Iran's nuclear weapons missile program, the entire military, we've got a ceasefire and at least an outline for long term peace. [00:01:32] Despite my profound distaste. [00:01:36] For saying I told you so. [00:01:38] We will get into what that peace deal with Iran means, as well as, and this is crucial, turning back to domestic matters, as well as the mass amnesty bill that squish Republicans are trying to sneak through Congress while the rest of us were all distracted by Iran. === Decoding Trump's Hyperbole (14:34) === [00:01:55] I'm Michael Knowles, this is the Michael Knowles Show. [00:02:16] Welcome back to the show. 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[00:04:03] Be like all of the people with good guts at the Daily Wire. [00:04:06] Be the best you with Just Thrive. [00:04:09] Breaking news President Trump did not detonate a nuclear weapon last night. [00:04:14] Breaking, shocking, stop the press's news Trump didn't commit a genocide last night, as the entire left was telling us, and as a ton of neurotic, hysterical people on the right were saying. [00:04:30] Oh my goodness, for the last two, three days, all these tweets, all these podcast episodes. [00:04:36] Trump, Trump, he's gone too far. [00:04:39] You know, this time. [00:04:41] You hear this. [00:04:43] I supported Trump. [00:04:44] I voted for him three times. [00:04:47] But this is too far. [00:04:49] He's going to do a genocide now. [00:04:53] Oh my goodness, these people. [00:04:55] How is it? [00:04:56] It's been 10 years. [00:04:58] It's been 10 years. [00:04:59] And some of you people, not you people, you people listening are normal. [00:05:03] But some of these people, especially in the media, on the right as well as the left, they still don't get it. [00:05:10] Ten years later, he's going to do a nuclear weapon. [00:05:13] This is the end of the world. [00:05:15] He's gone mad. [00:05:17] For two, three days, these people, their blood pressure through the roof, their cortisol spiking. [00:05:22] And then the rest of us, very few of us in the media, very few of us in the political class, I hate to say I told you so, most people, I think, who are Ordinary, normal, balanced people who have normal jobs, who don't work in politics professionally, who are on the right. [00:05:40] But I think most people knew Trump wasn't going to do a genocide or set off a nuke. [00:05:44] But in the media, oh my goodness gracious, for days, here we go. [00:05:48] We have Sarah Jacobs, Democrat congress lady. [00:05:52] The president just threatened genocide. [00:05:56] The Joint Chiefs of Staff must disregard any such military orders that violate federal and international law. [00:06:03] Republicans in Congress can't hide anymore. [00:06:06] We must consider all options, including impeachment, to stop Trump. [00:06:10] Lady, would you like a cigarette? [00:06:13] Would you like a cocktail? [00:06:15] Would you like to just take a deep. [00:06:18] Get a hold of yourself, woman! [00:06:20] What's the matter with you? [00:06:22] It's not just a woman, Bernie Sanders, same thing. [00:06:25] It is very easy to become accustomed to Trump's ravings and laugh them off. [00:06:29] That's a dangerous thing to do. [00:06:31] When Trump states a whole civilization will die tonight, he is threatening to commit genocide. [00:06:36] We cannot allow that to happen. [00:06:38] Congress must end this war now. [00:06:41] 10 years later, and people are still befuddled, befuddled. [00:06:46] Now, the rejoinder to the observation that Trump obviously wasn't going to commit a genocide, wasn't going to set off a nuke, the rejoinder is well, he threatened to wipe out a whole civilization. [00:06:58] He threatened that they would be living in hell. [00:07:02] So what? [00:07:02] You can't trust what Trump says? [00:07:04] That's what you're saying, Michael? [00:07:06] Ah, Michael, you're saying that the lesson of this whole episode is that you can't trust what Trump says. [00:07:12] Excuse me. [00:07:14] You can trust what Trump says if you know what he means. [00:07:21] See, words have a tie to an objective reality, but they also mean different things depending on the circumstances in which they are said and depending on who is saying them. [00:07:38] Because different people have different credibility. [00:07:40] Different people speak to different audiences. [00:07:43] And the way that Trump speaks is as a New Yorker, someone posted last night on social media, said, maybe it's just you got to be from New York to know what he. [00:07:52] And I'll tell you what, it helps. [00:07:55] For years now, when President Trump uses quotation marks to mean boldface, so you know, he'll do that, he'll say, like, we're going to destroy you or whatever. [00:08:04] And he, but he really, a lot of people don't understand that. [00:08:07] My grandmother used to write like that. [00:08:08] New Yorkers of a certain age write like that. [00:08:10] They think the quotations mean a joke, they mean mockery, they mean verbal irony. [00:08:17] But actually, sometimes New Yorkers use it. [00:08:19] So it's true. [00:08:19] New Yorkers speak in a different way. [00:08:21] Maybe that helps. [00:08:22] But the other thing that we know about Trump is that he uses hyperbole for rhetorical purpose. [00:08:28] In fact, he tells you that he does that in the book that he wrote about how he makes deals. [00:08:35] The very famous, best selling book, decades old book. [00:08:39] He says, yeah, I use hyperbole for rhetorical purpose. [00:08:42] The passage about his use of hyperbole is actually worth reading. [00:08:45] But you can trust what he says when you know what he means. [00:08:49] I did that whole exegesis, as it were, of the Trump tweet about open the effing straits, you crazy bastards, or we're going to rain down hell on your civilization. [00:09:00] Praise be to Allah, Donald J. Trump. [00:09:02] I pointed out the tweet was not, as some said, reckless. [00:09:06] It was a disciplined tweet. [00:09:07] The proof that it was a disciplined tweet, tweet, treat, it was a treat too, on Easter Sunday, no less. [00:09:13] The proof that it was disciplined was in that last line, that dry humor, praise be to Allah. [00:09:17] The tweet was saying, open the strait. [00:09:19] I want you to open the strait of Hormuz, and we'll get to. [00:09:22] The now open straight, which Trump got us in the sixth week. [00:09:26] But the tweet was mocking the diction of the Iranians, because the Iranians are the ones who are always saying, the great Satan will go down in a ball of flame and la la la. [00:09:37] That's how the Iranians talk. [00:09:39] And so Trump, who speaks in different ways, depending on the circumstance, sometimes he's a little more diplomatic, sometimes he's a little more blunt, but he did the Iranian thing. [00:09:49] He said, We're going to rain down fire on you. [00:09:51] You're going to be living in hell. [00:09:52] You're all going to be gone. [00:09:53] And He let you know that that was what he was doing with that final ironic line. [00:09:58] Praise be to Allah. [00:09:59] Yeah, okay, maybe I got to talk your language, Iranians. [00:10:02] Anyway, you can trust what he says if you know what he means. [00:10:07] And the proof is you're going to hear from all these people, all these hysterics. [00:10:12] You're going to say, no, you just got lucky. [00:10:15] He was really going to do it this time. [00:10:16] I'm telling you, he was really going to do it. [00:10:19] Okay. [00:10:20] I think the proof is who freaked out over the Trump tweet and who didn't? [00:10:27] The people who freaked out don't understand Trump. [00:10:31] And therefore, they don't understand the political moment. [00:10:35] And therefore, they might be entertaining. [00:10:38] They might be, you might like them personally, but therefore, you should not trust their opinions when it comes to political observation because they got it spectacularly wrong. [00:10:50] And those of us who didn't freak out, those of us who kind of chuckled along with it, those of us who were completely right in this very high stakes moment, maybe those of us who said and did those things, maybe we have a better grasp on what's going on in politics. [00:11:08] I don't know. [00:11:09] I would never say such a thing because I hate to say I told you so. [00:11:12] The further proof. [00:11:13] Before we get to the dignidad to act, before we get to what this means in Iran, the further proof that these guys just look completely foolish is that they've now flipped their criticism. [00:11:25] 12 hours ago, they were criticizing Trump for bombing Iran, for potentially dropping a nuke on Iran. [00:11:32] Immediately after he didn't do that, after he stopped the war, actually stopped the war because we have a two week ceasefire, immediately afterward, they criticized Trump for not nuking Iran. [00:11:43] We'll get to that momentarily. 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[00:13:11] He's now on the left, but he is also in hysterics from the right. [00:13:14] They immediately flipped from criticizing Trump for nuking Iran to criticizing Trump for not nuking Iran. [00:13:20] Bill Crystal tweets out last night the mother of all tacos, Taco Tuesday. [00:13:26] What do they mean by taco? [00:13:28] Taco is this. [00:13:30] Acronym that cropped up on Wall Street, but has spread to the broader left and the Trump critical right, which is sometimes it's hard to distinguish between the two. [00:13:39] TACO stands for Trump Always Chickens Out. [00:13:44] Now, the reason that this arose on Wall Street is because Wall Street got really freaked out last April because of the tariffs. [00:13:52] When Trump said, I'm going to tariff the whole world at 10 billion percent, and this is going to replace the income tax with tariff revenue, and this is going to completely reshape the economic order. [00:14:02] And there were people on Wall Street who freaked out. [00:14:05] Most people didn't, which is why the markets have remained not only stable, but have hit record highs. [00:14:10] But some people freaked out. [00:14:12] And then what did Trump do? [00:14:15] The tariffs weren't as bad as he was threatening. [00:14:18] Trump will threaten a 100% tariff on a country, and then he'll bring it down to 38%. [00:14:23] And then maybe he'll bring it down to nothing. [00:14:24] But then maybe that country does something he doesn't like. [00:14:26] He threatens to bring it up to 15% again. [00:14:28] And the upshot of it all is the tariffs were not nearly as bad as he threatened. [00:14:34] So they said, OK, well, Trump always chickens out. [00:14:37] And that's what they're now saying about Iran. [00:14:40] Trump said he was going to nuke Iran and committed genocide of the Persian people, and then he didn't do it. [00:14:45] What a chicken. [00:14:47] Trump always chickens out. [00:14:50] And I, I, whatever helps you sleep at night, whatever helps you to try to make sense of the world, if you guys are so befuddled as Bill Crystal is, that's fine by me. [00:15:03] But this is a completely unfair understanding of what Trump is doing here. [00:15:09] Because Trump always chickens out. [00:15:12] Taco implies, it assumes, I should say, that Trump actually wants the things he's claiming to want. [00:15:20] But we know for a fact that Trump claims to want much more than he actually wants. [00:15:28] One of the first guides 10 years ago to tune people into this fact was Scott Adams, who was one of the great readers of Trump. [00:15:35] Scott Adams, who is an expert in persuasion tactics, really made his political career after his Dilbert career. [00:15:42] He made his political media career observing all of Trump's strategies of persuasion, one of which is that Trump always talks past the sale. [00:15:51] Trump says he wants 300% tariffs on a country, and then he walks it back. [00:15:56] He's conciliatory and he makes a deal at 50%, but he really wanted 50% all the time. [00:16:01] 300% was totally ridiculous. [00:16:04] Trump writes about these things in his book, The Art of the Deal. [00:16:09] So it's a totally unfair attack on him because it is assuming that he wants something that he is telling you he doesn't actually want. [00:16:19] It's an incoherent criticism. [00:16:21] We should call it taco, it should be. [00:16:24] Tactical accentuation of critical objectives. === Restraint as American Strength (05:53) === [00:16:29] How's that? [00:16:31] Is that Trump accentuates critical objectives? [00:16:34] Instead of Trump always chickens it, Trump accentuates tactic. [00:16:38] I like tacticals better. [00:16:39] Tactical accentuation of critical objectives. [00:16:43] It's hyperbole to achieve an end. [00:16:46] This isn't 5D chess, guys. [00:16:48] You don't have to construct some esoteric theory of Trump to realize that salesmen ask for more than they want. [00:16:59] I don't think I'm the crazy one for pointing out that great salesmen talk past the sale. [00:17:05] That's like Sales 101. [00:17:06] That's what he's doing. [00:17:07] And if it takes genius political philosophers like Bill Crystal to explain it as cowardice or something, okay, whatever. [00:17:17] Regardless, Trump, we now have a two week ceasefire. [00:17:19] The Strait of Hormuz is opening under certain conditions. [00:17:24] The Warhawks are really upset about this. [00:17:26] Reportedly, the Israelis are kind of upset about this. [00:17:29] Trump seems happy about it, but people are accusing him of cowardice. [00:17:34] That's the whole point of the taco attack. [00:17:37] And I just want to point something out. [00:17:39] I've thought about this since we hit the end of the fifth week on Iran. [00:17:43] I was thinking about ways that Trump could fulfill his promise to scale this thing back after five weeks, which he has done, by the way. [00:17:49] He did it three days late, four days late, but I'll give him a little wiggle room. [00:17:53] He actually did what he said he was going to do. [00:17:57] Is there a way to do it without seeding American strength, without seeming like you're a coward? [00:18:02] And then I was going back through history and thinking about the greatest presidential examples of American strength in recent memory. [00:18:11] Who are they? [00:18:12] Okay, the first one, Ronald Reagan, right? [00:18:14] Peace through strength. [00:18:14] That was his slogan. [00:18:16] Peace through strength. [00:18:17] That cowboy, Ronald Reagan. [00:18:19] Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall, won the Cold War for America. [00:18:24] How did Reagan react in 1984 to the Beirut barracks bombings? [00:18:29] When Hezbollah, that is to say, when Iran killed over 200 soldiers, 241 Marines killed in the Beirut barracks bombings. [00:18:40] What did Reagan do? [00:18:41] Did he nuke Iran? [00:18:43] Did he get into a decade-long ground invasion of Iran? [00:18:47] No, you know what he did? [00:18:49] He removed the Marines from Lebanon. [00:18:52] Now, you might say, well, that was cowardice. [00:18:54] That was terrible. [00:18:55] The only point I'm making, the only descriptive point I'm making, is that Ronald Reagan is one of the great symbols universally understood. [00:19:04] Of American military strength abroad. [00:19:08] And when he was in a very similar situation to Trump with the same enemy, he pulled back. [00:19:17] His tactic was restrained, it was not escalating, even after a major provocation from Iran. [00:19:24] What about George H.W. Bush? [00:19:26] George H.W. Bush was actually the president during the literal end of the Cold War when the Berlin Wall actually came down. [00:19:34] George H.W. Bush, who invaded Iraq, don't you remember, in the Gulf War, what did he do? [00:19:41] Did he occupy Iraq for 10 years, 20 years? [00:19:44] No, no, no. [00:19:45] He stopped short of toppling Saddam. [00:19:48] He stopped short of regime change. [00:19:50] He pulled out. [00:19:51] He's considered not only one of the great foreign policy presidents, but a symbol of American strength. [00:19:56] What happened just after George H.W. Bush? [00:20:01] Remember when Black Hawk Down happened in Somalia? [00:20:05] Killed 18 troops. [00:20:07] Not that we look to Bill Clinton for great advice, but what did he do? [00:20:12] He pulled out of Somalia. [00:20:16] What about better symbols of American strength than Bill Clinton? [00:20:20] Truman. [00:20:21] Truman dropped the nuclear weapon. [00:20:23] Pretty tough guy. [00:20:24] What did Truman do when MacArthur wanted to go from Korea to invading China? [00:20:29] You know what he did? [00:20:30] He fired MacArthur. [00:20:33] What did Eisenhower do in Vietnam? [00:20:35] Eisenhower, who was one of the people responsible for winning World War II, what did he do when France wanted the United States to back them and escalate into Vietnam? [00:20:46] What did Eisenhower do? [00:20:47] He offered a little bit of military advising, a little bit, but he restrained himself. [00:20:54] He did not allow Vietnam on his watch to develop into a massive war. [00:20:59] He viewed it as an unwinnable quagmire in East Asia. [00:21:02] His successors, unfortunately, did expand the war, and they proved him right. [00:21:09] Eisenhower, again, whether you say Eisenhower's decision was right or wrong, he is a true symbol of American strength. [00:21:15] And yet, when push came to shove, his tactic was restraint. [00:21:20] Even Kennedy. [00:21:21] Kennedy shot down intervention into Laos in the 1960s. [00:21:25] Kennedy backed down. [00:21:27] He was restrained in the Cuban Missile Crisis. [00:21:29] It was one of the great victories, supposedly, of the Cold War, we didn't end up in nuclear war with Russia because Russia removed the missiles. [00:21:40] The only reason Russia removed their nuclear weapons was because Kennedy removed his missiles from Turkey. [00:21:47] Even in that issue, it was restrained. [00:21:48] So I'm just pointing out, regardless of what you think about the Iran war, and there's a Scintillating New York Times report on how we actually got into the strikes on Iran, which we'll get to momentarily before getting to the Dignidad Act. [00:22:03] But regardless of your view on the war and the strategic objectives and getting rid of the mullahs and democracy for Iran and the nuclear, I just want to point out being a strong president, a symbol actually of American strength, and being restrained in your foreign policy, pulling back, not escalating, those two things are not necessarily opposed. === Unity Within the Administration (12:31) === [00:22:23] In fact, in almost all the examples I can think of in recent history, They go together. [00:22:29] Now, before we get to anything else, I want to tell you about Shopify. [00:22:33] Go to shopify.com slash Knowles. [00:22:35] Folks, when you start a new endeavor, we've started a lot around here. [00:22:39] Mayflower cigars, my beautiful candles, my sweaters, obviously the show. [00:22:44] When you start a new endeavor, the big fear you have is, what if this fails? 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[00:24:20] Here is the story of how he made that fateful decision. [00:24:25] So right off the bat, we see that the leading voice against the strikes in Iran from the administration, according to the New York Times, Vice President JD Vance. [00:24:36] Now, you will recall, before, during, and after the Iran strikes, I said, if I had been in the National Security Council, had I been in the room, I would have made the strongest arguments I could against the strikes. [00:24:50] I trust Trump on foreign policy, so I'm not going to freak out. [00:24:53] I'm not going to be a neurotic. [00:24:54] I'm not going to be a hysteric. [00:24:55] I'm not going to say we're on the brink of nuclear genocide. [00:24:58] I trust Trump. [00:24:59] He's got a great record on foreign policy. [00:25:01] There are strategic objectives to be achieved in Iran, but I just would have made the arguments with the information I had available to me. [00:25:06] I would have argued against the strikes. [00:25:08] According to New York Times, Vance was doing the same thing, which reminds me, Vance, that guy's got a good head on his shoulders. [00:25:17] That guy's a very, very impressive leader. [00:25:20] It's very rare you get raw intelligence, which he obviously has, and a touch of connection to normal people, which Vance obviously has. [00:25:32] Read his memoir. [00:25:33] And good political instincts. [00:25:38] Those three things don't always go together. [00:25:39] They do seem to go together in him. [00:25:41] In any case, what happened in the room, according to the New York Times? [00:25:44] In the Situation Room, Bibi Netanyahu comes in. [00:25:47] He's making the hard pitch for Iran on February 11th. [00:25:50] Mr. Netanyahu made a hard sell, suggesting that Iran was ripe for regime change and expressing the belief that a joint U.S.-Israeli mission could finally bring an end to the Islamic Republic. [00:26:00] The CIA director, John Ratcliffe, who President Trump calls central casting, Ratcliffe used one word to describe the Israeli prime minister's regime change scenarios, farcical. [00:26:11] You know I was making the same arguments. [00:26:14] There are some people who say we should never go to war. [00:26:16] We should be pacifists or the Iranian regime is actually good or we could really work with these guys. [00:26:22] I've never said that. [00:26:23] The regime is awful and it would be great if we could swap out the regime. [00:26:26] But what did I say before, during, and after the strikes? [00:26:29] I said, I just don't think you're going to unseat this regime. [00:26:32] The last time we changed regimes in Iran, the 1953 CIA coup that got rid of Mogadishu and consolidated the power of the Shah, that regime lasted for 26 years, was it? [00:26:44] Yeah, 53 to 79, 26 years. [00:26:46] The Iranian mullahs who won the Islamic revolution, they've been in power almost twice as long. [00:26:53] So we don't like them. [00:26:54] They're terrible for America. [00:26:55] They're terrible for the region and the world. [00:26:57] But I said, I think it's a more stable regime than some of the hawks are pretending. [00:27:03] And I don't think this is going to be an 88 minute mission like in Venezuela. [00:27:07] In other words, I agree with the CIA director. [00:27:10] I think that the notion that Iran was ripe for regime change was farcical. [00:27:15] I said that before, during, and after, and now that we're six weeks in, five and a half weeks into this war, that would seem to be the case. [00:27:22] The Iranian Islamic regime has held on to power. [00:27:26] You don't need to think that's a good thing. [00:27:28] I think that's a bad thing. [00:27:29] I hate the Iranian regime. [00:27:30] But nevertheless, they have held on to power. [00:27:34] The claims that Iran was on the brink of a popular revolution and the people were going to take back their country and bring in Reza Pahlavi or a secular government transitioning to democracy, it just hasn't happened. [00:27:46] So it looks like the CIA director was right. [00:27:48] Rubio. [00:27:49] Translated what the CIA director meant when he said it was farcical. [00:27:52] At that point, Mr. Rubio cut in, quote, in other words, it's BS. [00:27:56] He used the real word, but this is a family show. [00:27:59] Several others jumped in, including Mr. Vance. [00:28:03] Now, JD Vance was apparently not in the first meetings because Vance happened to be in Azerbaijan at the moment. [00:28:08] He was in Armenia and then Azerbaijan working to resolve that conflict. [00:28:12] The Armenia Christian war against the Muslims, really, it's the Muslim war against the Christians there, has been an issue that we've talked about on the show a number of times. [00:28:20] Vance was over there. [00:28:21] And this meeting was really last minute, so he wasn't even in the room the first time. [00:28:24] But when he did get back, Mr. Vance, just back from Azerbaijan, also expressed strong skepticism about the prospect of regime change. [00:28:30] How about the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Raisin Kane? [00:28:33] Kane replied, Sir, this is, in my experience, standard operating procedure for the Israelis. [00:28:38] They oversell, and their plans are not always well developed. [00:28:41] They know they need us, and that's why they are hard selling. [00:28:44] According to the New York Times, I have to keep saying according to the New York Times because I instinctively do not believe the New York Times, but it's a fascinating read in any case. [00:28:54] And They might, because there is some disagreement on the right about this issue, they might be getting decent sourcing. [00:29:02] Within the cabinet, Mr. Hegseth, the Secretary of War, was the biggest proponent of a military campaign against Iran. [00:29:08] Ms. Wiles, Susie Wiles, White House Chief of Staff, has told colleagues that she worried about the United States being dragged into another war in the Middle East. [00:29:16] Nobody in Mr. Trump's inner circle was more worried about the prospect of war with Iran or did more to try to stop it than the vice president. [00:29:21] I think that has aged quite well. [00:29:24] Mr. Vance, whose disagreements with the whole premise were well established, addressed the president. [00:29:29] He said, according to the Times, you know, I think this is a bad idea, but if you want to do it, I'll support you. [00:29:33] There we love it. [00:29:35] Love it. [00:29:36] So, what's my takeaway from this? [00:29:37] One, I already was a great admirer of Vance. [00:29:41] If this reporting is true, my estimation of him has somehow increased even more. [00:29:47] This is the right approach. [00:29:49] say, look, I'm very skeptical. [00:29:51] This is why I think the facts on the ground suggest that we shouldn't wage a major operation against Iran that's aimed at regime change because you're not going to get regime change. [00:29:58] You could wage an operation aimed at stopping the nuclear weapons like we did last summer. [00:30:02] You could wage an operation even to get rid of the ballistic missiles, to take out one leader or another leader, to try to get a better leader in place, but you're not going to get regime change, most likely. [00:30:13] So for all these reasons, I oppose this. [00:30:15] Iran's a real country. [00:30:16] Venezuela is less of a real country, but for all these reasons, I oppose it. [00:30:19] But if you do it, I'll support you because you're the president. [00:30:21] That's the right attitude. [00:30:22] There's one president. [00:30:24] There's one president. [00:30:25] There's one guy in charge. [00:30:26] It's his administration. [00:30:27] And it is the job of the people within the administration to give their advice, to tell the truth, and then to support the guy who was elected with the popular vote, I should add, to make the calls. [00:30:41] Absolutely mature, responsible, spot on sort of thing. [00:30:46] The other thing I take away from this reporting is there has been an op, and I've been calling this out for weeks. [00:30:51] Hate to say I told you so. [00:30:53] There's been an op to try to create division within the Trump. [00:30:56] Administration. [00:30:57] This is the most unified admin I've ever seen in my lifetime. [00:31:00] They're trying to create division. [00:31:01] And so they're trying to pit Rubio against Vance because right now, Vance is the heir apparent for 2028. [00:31:06] He's already got basically the endorsement of Donald Trump, who says that he wants to see Vance and Rubio run on a ticket and he doesn't even want Rubio to run for any other job. [00:31:13] He's so good as Secretary of State. [00:31:14] So you got Vance there as the heir apparent. [00:31:17] Rubio has already endorsed Vance for president. [00:31:19] He said, I'm not going to run if JD runs. [00:31:21] I think he would be a great nominee. [00:31:24] But all these people trying to make division, they say, well, no, there's a huge division here. [00:31:28] Rubio, bloodthirsty for war in Iran. [00:31:31] JD Vance wouldn't support any operation in Iran. [00:31:33] They're at loggerheads. [00:31:36] Well, actually, at least according to this reporting, and by the way, the New York Times has a real incentive to stoke division within the Trump admin, and yet, what did they show here? [00:31:45] It's one of the reasons I kind of trust the reporting they say, no, Vance and Rubio basically agreed on this, as did the CIA director and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. [00:31:54] And maybe Hegseth was a little more in favor of war in Iran, but they're not even that specific about that. [00:31:58] Yeah, the admin was basically. [00:32:00] United and Trump ultimately, was persuaded that there should be some kind of strike on Iran, but he clearly doesn't want an open-ended war. [00:32:06] He said it would last about five weeks and guess what? [00:32:09] We have a ceasefire five and a half weeks in. [00:32:12] My takeaway from this is, there's unity here in the administration, there's sophistication. [00:32:18] Now some people are going to say, well, what did we even get out of this war? [00:32:22] Okay, that's a separate question. [00:32:25] You people in the media and in the political class who were just completely wrong spectacularly 180 degrees wrong about Trump dropping a nuclear weapon, About Trump perpetrating a genocide, about how long the war was going to go on. [00:32:38] You were just completely wrong about everything. [00:32:40] And now you have the temerity to come out and say, yeah, well, but we were actually right in principle. [00:32:44] You know, it's like, what was this war even for? [00:32:49] I'm a skeptic of the strikes on Iran. [00:32:51] I've told you, I had my cards on the table the whole time. [00:32:54] I would have argued against it. [00:32:55] But to tell me we didn't get anything out of it, we seriously set back the nuclear program eight months ago, or eight, nine months ago over the summer. [00:33:05] We here totally decimated their ballistic missiles capabilities, the ballistic missiles which were being used to defend the nuclear program. [00:33:12] We sunk their navy. [00:33:14] We killed their leader, the Ayatollah, who has been calling for death for America forever and who According to intelligence, we tried to kill Trump multiple times. [00:33:23] We've arrested people for doing that. [00:33:26] And then we killed like everyone around him and we brought Iran to the table. [00:33:30] Then Iran played the last card that they could play, which was closing the Strait of Hormuz, which is a serious challenge. [00:33:35] Trump said, I'm going to reopen that Strait. [00:33:36] And here's how I'm going to do it I'm going to send this tweet and all you hysterics are going to freak out about it. [00:33:40] And guess what? [00:33:41] The Strait's opening. [00:33:43] Now we'll get into what the details are of this because it's a little unclear in this deal that was negotiated with the help of the Prime Minister of Pakistan. [00:33:51] What exactly are going to be the terms of a 10 point peace? [00:33:54] The US and Iran are saying different things right now. [00:33:57] But regardless, Trump has pulled it off. [00:34:03] He pulled off the thing he said he was going to do. [00:34:05] He was going to strike Iran. [00:34:07] He stopped talking about regime change very quickly. [00:34:09] He said, look, Iranian people, if you want to rise up, you can take over this regime if you want. [00:34:13] But we're not in the chief objectives of the war. [00:34:17] He didn't really list regime change. [00:34:18] And he also pointed out they've killed so many people at the top that in a way it kind of was regime change, in the way that in Venezuela it kind of was regime change. [00:34:25] But it's really more you just take out the top people than you point a gun at the people who come up to run the country next. [00:34:31] And you say, hey, play ball or we're going to blow your head off. [00:34:33] That's what Trump did to Delcy Rodriguez in Venezuela. [00:34:36] It seems like that's what he's doing to the new Supreme Leader of Iran. [00:34:39] The new Supreme Leader of Iran, who's never even been seen in public, he's basically just a cardboard cutout. [00:34:43] So whoever is running the country, Trump's got a gun to that guy's head. [00:34:45] And he says, open the straight, cry uncle. [00:34:48] And as of today, it appears that whatever the word for uncle is in Farsi, the Iranians cried it. === Intense Conversations on DailyWire Plus (02:11) === [00:34:54] Okay, now let's get to domestic matters because while everyone was distracted with war in the Middle East, squish Republicans at home, are trying to pass a mass amnesty bill. [00:35:04] Republicans win the popular vote for the first time in 20 years, running on mass deportations overtly. [00:35:10] So the squishes in the Republican Congress say, I know what we need mass amnesty. [00:35:16] We'll get to that momentarily. [00:35:17] First, I absolutely love my friend Pavel, who is a longtime assistant director here at Daily Wire, but he's an on camera figure too. [00:35:26] You know him from Lady Ballers, from various on air appearances backstage. [00:35:31] Well, Pavel has a show. [00:35:33] It could not be more timely. [00:35:34] It's called Be a Man with Me. [00:35:36] He has a kind of funny Polish accent. [00:35:37] He's a giant, manly Pole. [00:35:39] The latest episode of Be a Man with Me may just be the most intense yet. [00:35:42] Pavel teams up with the Hendersonville Fire Department to find out what it really means to be a man. [00:35:46] Check out this teaser. [00:35:49] What's going on in there? [00:35:50] I've just got reports that they got water on the fire, so they've made an entry on the A side, advanced down this hallway. [00:35:56] They're in the fire room, currently working on fire service. [00:35:58] Come here. [00:35:58] Come on in. [00:35:59] Right here. [00:36:00] Come on in. 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[00:36:54] If you haven't joined yet, become a member dailywire.comslash subscribe. [00:36:58] My favorite comment yesterday is from Frank K3D3N, who says, The show logo is starting to look like Dunkin' Donuts. === Solving Illegal Immigration Problems (12:34) === [00:37:05] Is that, is it really? [00:37:08] I don't know how to feel about that because I do eat Dunkin' Donuts sometimes, but it's terrible. [00:37:12] Dunkin' Donuts is my family, especially my family that lives in New England and Northeast generally, they love Dunkin' Donuts. [00:37:18] Dunkin' Donuts is my father's favorite establishment in the world. [00:37:24] But the coffee tastes like trash water. [00:37:27] It tastes like it was filtered through a big bag of garbage. [00:37:30] The donuts are stale. [00:37:32] And then I go into Dunkin' Donuts. [00:37:34] There is a new staff, a completely new staff, basically, every time I go into the same Dunkin' Donuts. [00:37:40] I don't know what, I don't know how that corporation operates. [00:37:45] But it's bad at everything and people love it. [00:37:50] I even feel nostalgic. [00:37:51] I still go in. [00:37:52] I am a regular customer of Dunkin' Donuts, but everything about it is horrible. [00:37:58] And now you're telling me my show logo is like that. [00:38:02] I don't know what to think of. [00:38:03] We might need a rebrand. [00:38:04] Okay. [00:38:07] A Republican member of Congress, along with a dozen or so other Republican, Republican members of Congress, while you are all distracted looking at Iran, she is trying to ram through a mass amnesty bill for illegal aliens. [00:38:29] She is currently calling it the Dignity Act. [00:38:33] But you want to know the kicker? [00:38:35] It's not even called the Dignity Act. [00:38:38] That's not the actual name of the bill. [00:38:39] The bill is called the Dignidad Act. [00:38:43] The Feliz Navidad Act. [00:38:44] No, Dignidad. [00:38:47] It doesn't even have an English name. [00:38:48] It has got a Spanish name, Dignidad. [00:38:51] And what does the Dignidad Act do? [00:38:54] From Congress Lady Maria Salazar, a fake Republican. [00:38:59] I want to be as fair and charitable as I can be. [00:39:02] The Dignidad Act would, in principle, secure the border. [00:39:06] Oh, man, I've heard that song before, haven't I? [00:39:09] That's what the Democrats promised Reagan in the 80s. [00:39:12] They said, give us mass amnesty and we'll secure the border. [00:39:16] And what happened? [00:39:17] We got the mass amnesty. [00:39:18] They didn't secure the border. [00:39:20] It's the same bill. [00:39:21] Fool me once, shame on you. [00:39:22] Fool me twice. [00:39:23] To quote George W. Bush, the point is you're not going to fool me again. [00:39:26] The same bill, Maria Salazar comes out and says, hey, remember that time the Democrats totally tricked us in the 80s and they said they'd secure the border if we gave mass amnesty? [00:39:34] Let's just try that again. [00:39:36] But the reason she's pushing this, I think, Is because she doesn't care about border security because she does want mass amnesty and she wants a pathway to citizenship for all these people. [00:39:47] This secures the border in principle. [00:39:49] It establishes three humanitarian campuses along the southern border to process asylum cases because what happens is these people are economic migrants. [00:39:57] They come here, they falsely claim that they need political asylum, but for whatever reason, they couldn't stop in any other Latin American country along the way. [00:40:03] They had to come to the U.S. for political asylum, for safety. [00:40:06] They're economic migrants, 99 times out of 100 or more. [00:40:10] And then the dignity program. [00:40:13] Which is a seven year deferred action program offering temporary legal presence, work authorization, travel authorization for undocumented individuals continuously present in the U.S. since 2020. [00:40:27] So the only thing here that is even remotely good is the border protection. [00:40:33] Here, though, they say, all right, if you've been here since 2020, if you're an illegal alien, an undocumented American, undocumented individual, that's the language they use, then if you've been here since 2020, you're good, you can stay. [00:40:45] Now, do you see the problem with this? [00:40:47] Let's say you're an illegal alien who came here in 2019. [00:40:51] And the law says, if you come here in 2019, you got to go home, but if you come here in 2020, you can stay. [00:40:57] What are you going to tell the ICE officer? [00:41:01] Probably if you're a dishonest person, but if you're most people, I think you're going to say, well, I've been here since 2020. [00:41:09] Now the ICE officer is going to say, okay, well, we got to prove that. [00:41:13] But the problem is if the thing that distinguishes you is that you are undocumented, then you can't prove it. [00:41:22] So if the law says that you got to let these people in, then the law enforcement officers are going to defer to the illegals. [00:41:31] All that's going to happen is you're going to walk up there and say, Hey, hola, I do solemnly swear I've been here since 2020. [00:41:37] SA, I'm totally, you got to believe me, man. [00:41:39] But I don't have any documents, but it's cool. [00:41:42] I'm totally honest. [00:41:43] They're going to say, Great, come on in. [00:41:44] So it's mass amnesty for everyone. [00:41:46] Now, there is a rule you got to pay some taxes. [00:41:49] You got to pay some back taxes. [00:41:51] But again, the problem with illegal immigration is not that these people don't pay enough taxes. [00:41:57] They don't. [00:41:57] They're net takers of welfare programs. [00:41:59] But the problem with them isn't that they need to pay more taxes. [00:42:03] The problem is they came here illegally. [00:42:06] We don't want them here. [00:42:09] We have a legal immigration program. [00:42:11] We take too many immigrants through that, by the way. [00:42:14] We now have the highest foreign-born percentage of the population we've ever had. [00:42:17] It phrased social solidarity. [00:42:18] It just doesn't work. [00:42:19] No knock on them personally. [00:42:21] No knock on even any part of the world. [00:42:22] It's just you can't take huge numbers of migrants and have your society continue to function. [00:42:27] So the problem is not that they're not paying enough taxes. [00:42:29] The problem is that they are here. [00:42:30] They need to go home. [00:42:32] Oh, and then the kicker, you know what the Digni Dodd Act does? [00:42:37] It's the DREAM Act. [00:42:39] It's the thing that Obama and the Democrats tried to pass. [00:42:42] It says that if you're a dreamer, what's a dreamer? [00:42:45] A dreamer is this ridiculous euphemism that the Democrats came up with for younger illegal aliens. [00:42:52] And they came up with it 15 years ago. [00:42:54] The dreamers. [00:42:57] And the dreamers, you think of these little doe eyed six year old kids brought here without their consent into America. [00:43:02] The dreamers are like 50 now, okay? [00:43:04] The dreamers are like fat, balding 50 year olds. [00:43:07] The little, the doe eyed dreamers. [00:43:09] So it gives the Democrats the main amnesty legislation that they've sought for 15 years. [00:43:14] This is just a joke. [00:43:15] And then other people are finding other provisions. [00:43:18] The law gets worse and worse the more you read it. [00:43:20] According to Will Chamberlain, got to give a hat tip here for finding this bit of the bill. [00:43:26] The Digny Dodd Act. [00:43:28] Prevents law enforcement from deporting gangsters because it prevents allegations of gang membership that are in state or federal databases from being used to determine whether or not someone is in a gang for the purpose of amnesty. [00:43:45] So that guy, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, remember that one, Senator Chris Van Hollen's boyfriend who got deported to Bukele's camp, and then the Democrats whined and cried over this wife beating illegal gangster being deported. [00:43:57] Forget about the constituents, it's the wife beating illegal gangsters. [00:44:01] We must protect them. [00:44:01] They need their dignidad. [00:44:03] A guy like Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who two judges said was a gangster, that guy would get legal residency here through this stupid bill. [00:44:13] It would also increase illegal immigration, which is a big problem. [00:44:16] We need no illegal immigration and we need much less legal immigration. [00:44:20] We have too many immigrants. [00:44:21] It's no knock on the some of my family were immigrants, legal immigrants, many, many years ago, well over a century ago. [00:44:29] But we have too many of them. [00:44:33] We got to chill out. [00:44:33] This is what we do in America. [00:44:35] When the country was founded, we had basically no immigration. [00:44:37] Then we let in some immigration from some places. [00:44:40] Then we closed off immigration again. [00:44:42] And then 40 years later, we totally destroyed our immigration system and flooded the country with particularly problematic migrants that skewed social solidarity. [00:44:52] But what this would do is increase the country cap from 7% to 15%. [00:45:00] So especially immigrants from Mexico, India, China, they double the number of immigrants we're taking even legally. [00:45:06] And the whole point of it is to give them citizenship. [00:45:10] Now, Maria Salazar, dishonestly, is saying right now that this would not give people citizenship. [00:45:15] You need to read the bill. [00:45:16] She's yelling at my pal Brandon Gill, the freshman congressman making a lot of big waves. [00:45:20] You need to read the bill before you open your mouth. [00:45:22] That's not what this does. [00:45:24] No, really. [00:45:25] Hey, look, hey, the big brains of the squish Republicans, they're actually, you know, this is really good for border enforcement. [00:45:32] If we want to win on the immigration issue. [00:45:34] If you want to get rid of the mass migration, secretly what we have to do is give mass amnesty to all of these people. [00:45:41] Because then they won't be illegal anymore, right? [00:45:43] They'll be legal. [00:45:44] These are what the big brains are going to tell you. [00:45:46] But don't listen to them because Marie Salazar elsewhere admits the whole point of this is to make them citizens. [00:45:53] We give them dignity. [00:45:55] At some point in the future, another legislator will write another law to give them a path to citizenship. [00:46:01] Right now, what we need to do is to buy peace for these people, allow them to stay, to continue working because they are needed. [00:46:09] Here's the pitch Look, I know you want to give them citizenship. [00:46:12] I know, but don't worry. [00:46:14] Down the line, some other legislator is going to do that. [00:46:17] We just got to buy them time. [00:46:19] Because if we, right now, they might get deported and then they'll never get citizenship. [00:46:23] So we got to do, you got to go along with me, guys. [00:46:26] We're going to lie to all the rubes. [00:46:28] We're going to lie to most Americans. [00:46:32] Trump won the popular vote running on mass deportations. [00:46:35] We're going to lie to them and say this isn't about making them citizens. [00:46:38] And that will just buy them time so that we can finally get a Democrat in there to make them citizens. [00:46:44] This is a terrible fraud from this woman, Maria Salazar. [00:46:48] Any Republican congressman, there are a dozen or 14 of them. [00:46:51] I don't have the list in front of me where I'd read them. [00:46:54] Any Republican congressman supporting the Digny Dodd Act. [00:47:00] Should be looked on with deep skepticism. [00:47:02] I have my own proposal to counter the Dignidad Act. [00:47:06] I call it the, well, the point of the proposal will be to just deport these congressmen. [00:47:11] The point of the proposal will be to get rid of these squish congressmen, at least to deport them from Congress, ideally from America. [00:47:17] And I'm going to call it the Nix, obnoxious, querulous, useless ingrates. [00:47:25] These are very ungrateful. [00:47:26] The Republicans elect them to mass deportation. [00:47:29] They're so ungrateful. [00:47:30] They turn on them immediately. [00:47:31] Nix, obnoxious, Querulous, useless, ingrates, and the Republican Obtuseness Act of 2026. [00:47:42] That's the act. [00:47:43] We got to get text to Republicans in Congress. [00:47:46] The No Quiero Act is what it's called. [00:47:49] That's what we need. [00:47:50] This is absolute trash. [00:47:53] Very undignidad defied. [00:47:55] Very undignidad defied of these Republicans in Congress. [00:48:01] Pathetic stuff. [00:48:02] Kill that bill. [00:48:03] This woman needs to take the L. [00:48:04] She needs to go away. [00:48:06] And. [00:48:07] The other Republicans who supported this need to keep their mouths shut for a little bit and go along with what the voters actually want. [00:48:12] Disgusting. [00:48:12] Disgusting. [00:48:14] It's just amazing, these people. [00:48:17] Probably they're just perfidious. [00:48:20] Probably they're just deceitful fraudsters trying to pull a fast one on voters. [00:48:25] But if they sincerely believe this is a good idea, they're actually saying, like, hey, golly, hey, fellas, the people, most Americans just voted for us on the basis that we would. [00:48:40] Have mass deportation. [00:48:41] So, you know what we should do? [00:48:42] Mass amnesty for illegals. [00:48:43] Or, you know what they do? [00:48:44] They say, look, this system's broken. [00:48:47] Look, the system is broken. [00:48:50] Our immigration system's broken. [00:48:52] And so, what we need to do is make it worse in every way. [00:48:54] We have to because it's broken. [00:48:57] But look, it's broken. [00:48:58] So, the only thing we can do is make it worse in every way. [00:49:02] Not going to make it. [00:49:03] Okay, I really want to get to these Catholic sisters in New York, these religious sisters, the Dominican sisters of Hawthorne. [00:49:09] who for 125 years have been caring for terminally ill people. [00:49:12] All the people have to do is show up and say, I have no one to care for me. [00:49:15] They will care for them. [00:49:16] And now Democrat legislators are trying to punish them if they don't full-throatedly accept transgender pronouns. [00:49:29] We don't have time. [00:49:29] We'll get to that story tomorrow. [00:49:31] Today is Work From Home Wednesday, and I didn't assign anything, and too bad. [00:49:34] The rest of the show continues now. [00:49:35] You do not want to miss it. [00:49:36] Become a member. [00:49:36] Use code NOLES, CanadaWLES, at checkout for two months free on all annual plans.