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July 27, 2024 - The Michael Knowles Show
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Michael Knowles Vs Tim Pool | FACE-OFF: Civil War

Get ready for an explosive episode of FACE-OFF, hosted by Michael Knowles, featuring Tim Pool, the host of Timcast IRL. They both talk about it, but who knows more about the topic of Civil War? Find out now! - - - Today’s Sponsor: Birch Gold - Make a qualifying purchase by July 31st and get a GOLDEN Truth Bomb! Text “KNOWLES” to 989898, or go to https://birchgold.com/KNOWLES

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I wrote 5.35.
I said 3.10.
It's four minutes and 56 seconds, so I... Highest without going over, yes!
Yeah!
Closer.
I believe Tim won that, because he was closest to it, so...
Ooh, that's gotta be embarrassing.
Brace yourselves!
The Libs want to steal, kill, and destroy.
And the Conservatives?
They want these topless lunatics to either playfully jump up and down on a trampoline or get off their lawn!
The battle lines have been drawn.
Are we getting closer to a civil war?
Well, to see who knows more about the topic of civil wars, we have a man who, in preparation for such an event, taught himself how to make his own peak lapel suit out of deer skins and tree sap.
Michael Knowles, Versed, the current Guinness Book record holder for the most time saying Civil War in a single podcast, Tim Pool.
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This is Face Off Civil War.
Welcome, gentlemen, to Face Off.
Thanks, Ben, for having me on my own show.
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Back to you, Ben.
Thank you so much for that, Michael.
We should be prepared at all times.
Tim, what did you do to prepare for this topic today?
In terms of trivia, I guess just doing my show as I normally do and reading the news constantly.
You should be more than prepared then.
Alright gentlemen, I'm going to read these questions.
You have 30 seconds to write down your answer.
At the end, whoever loses has to do a 30 second commercial for why people should watch the other person's show.
Are you ready?
I'm ready.
A lot on the line here.
Alright.
Question one.
Who killed Howard and Maria Stark setting the stage for the Avengers Civil War?
Oh, give me a break.
Are you freaking kidding me?
Oh, really?
That's the question?
Oh, that's... Yeah, that one.
Oh, I was so looking forward to saying that one.
Are you kidding?
That's so... That was easy.
All right, I think I got my answer.
All right, Michael, what do you have?
Dumbledore?
Close.
It was Bucky Barnes, the Winter Soldier.
That is correct.
Not in one million years.
If I had infinite time to give my answer, would I have gotten to Bucky Barnes, the Winter Soldier?
If you want to ask me some Marvel questions, I'll answer those easily.
This is brutal.
Michael kept asking, is this American Civil War?
I'm like, Civil War in general.
That's what we kind of got to do today.
This is awful.
The funniest thing you could do right now is only ask me questions about that Marvel movie.
That would be Deeply painful, but very funny.
Let's see if this one's painful.
Number two.
In which year did the American Civil War begin?
And whoever gets the closest will get the correct answer.
Tim will get it for help.
You're wrong.
What do you got?
You're wrong, Michael.
1860.
Yep, it's 1861.
Really?
Yeah.
What?
Hold on.
So it's Fort Sumter is the beginning of the war.
Correct.
61.
With 61?
Ah, man, this is not a good start for me.
This is not a good start at all.
Oh.
It's all right, Michael, there's a bonus question at the end, just in case, right?
Yeah, great, okay.
Except Tim's smarter than me, and he's not gonna gamble his win on some stupid bonus question.
Oh, I love poker.
Number three.
During the French Revolution, how many people were killed specifically by guillotine?
It's not the deaths total, this is just what historians think the number was for guillotines.
Closest without going over, or just closest?
Just closest.
You gotta get the person in there, you gotta, like, pull the thing up, you gotta release it, it's a whole process.
Hold on, let's wait for Michael to finish writing.
Okay.
Alright, Tim, you go first this time.
I have no idea, I put 3,000.
Alright, Michael.
I said 90,000.
I think, Tim, what?
Between 15,000 and 17,000 people were beheaded at the guillotine during the French Revolution.
Yeah, but what about all the secret ones they didn't list?
90,000.
Michael, that's high.
I don't know, man.
The Jacobins were awful people.
Yeah, they killed themselves.
It was hilarious.
Yeah.
Not in a funny ha-ha way.
More like a...
Yeah, like after they got Robespierre, it was like, I'm gonna kill everybody.
They're like, no, we're gonna kill you.
And he was like, well, you know, we'll buy the sword.
Apparently just as many people were killed by this weird drowning technique, but they thought that was too inhumane and moved specifically to the guillotine.
This is why I always thought for all of Henry VIII's problems, you can't say he was a bad husband, because he ordered really, really fine blades for his wives.
So, painless.
Number four.
According to Wikipedia, how many men died in the American Civil War?
According to Wikipedia?
All right, Michael?
600,000?
Tim?
1.8 million?
Michael is closer.
Oh, thank goodness.
Between 620,000 and 750,000 deaths.
All right.
You know what I was?
I was thinking that it was that number for each side, and so I added them up.
Look, I'll take whatever I can get.
What is it now?
Three to one?
Four to one?
Three to one.
Three to one, okay.
All right, I'm still in it, I guess.
It's a comeback coming.
Yeah.
All right, number five.
Which country is home to the longest active civil war in modern history, starting in 1948?
This is A, B, C, and D. Is it A, Colombia?
B, Myanmar or Burma?
C, Sudan?
D, Yemen?
Oh, I already wrote my answer down before you gave multiple.
I actually, hold on, I think your answer... Can you state the question again?
Because I think the actual correct answer is not even listed there, but say it again.
Which country is home to the longest active civil war in modern history, starting in 1948?
Colombia, Myanmar, Sudan, Yemen.
They also would say Myanmar is Burma, so you can use it among those.
Tim?
I wrote that down before you even gave multiple choice, Burma.
Michael?
I said Sudan.
The correct answer is Burma.
Really?
Ah!
He should have said Myanmar though, so does he get... I thought the answer was going to be Korea.
That's actually a good point.
Yeah, shouldn't it be Korea?
It's still technically in a state of civil war.
But that was in the 50s, wasn't it?
Right, right, right.
That's true.
Okay.
All right.
Burma it is.
Yeah.
You missed that movie, Michael, about Burma?
I think I might have, yeah.
Yeah.
Darn.
All right.
Getting blown out.
Number six.
During Caesar's Civil War from 49 to 45 BC, what action did Julius Caesar take that most historians attribute to the start of the bloody conflict?
Y'all are flying through these.
Yeah, I think this one's easy, right?
He crossed the Rubicon.
He crossed the Rubicon, that is correct.
Just like Trump.
Every week there's something new.
He crossed the Rubicon.
I will add that his forces had already crossed earlier from a couple days before he did, and so Caesar's crossing of the Rubicon is a misattribution.
And yeah, at that point it was old hat.
I don't even know why they took notice of it.
Yeah, he already had troops on the other side.
But then when he personally did it, I guess everyone's like, oh, look what he's doing!
Yeah.
All right, number seven.
According to the Holocaust Encyclopedia, how many people lost their lives in the Spanish Civil War?
Was that in the Holocaust Encyclopedia?
I don't know, it's just where we got it from.
Dirty, rotten, filthy commies, or like all people, including the good priests and nuns who the communists were killing?
All people.
Okay.
Gosh, I don't know.
We'll probably have to cut that out for YouTube, Michael.
Huh?
What?
No, this is what the libs do.
They call the communists the republicans, and they try to make Franco into like super duper mega Hitler, but the Soviet Union was trying to take over Iberia, and the commies were Killing nuns and priests, and they were just like the worst people on earth.
And then there's Franco trying to cobble together this coalition of monarchists and some fascists and some right-wingers to stop, you know, the Ruskies from Iberia.
But then somehow Franco's the bad guy.
I don't know.
Civil wars are complicated.
They're complicated.
All right, Tim, what do you have?
I put 3 million.
Put 500,000.
It's exactly 500,000.
Hey, all right!
I had no idea.
Knowles is flying!
Yeah, sort of.
That was my second correct answer.
All right, number eight.
What event is commonly regarded as the starting point of the Syrian civil war in 2011?
Is it A, government corruption scandal, B, military coup, C, Arab Spring protest, D, assassination of a political leader?
All right, Michael.
I said the Arab Spring, wasn't it?
And then Assad allegedly gassed the people.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I said C, Arab Spring.
That is correct.
Arab Spring protests.
And then the entire Western world said, you know, we have to take out Assad.
And then he didn't go away, and then we all just like forgot about it.
Do you remember?
After like years, we have, he's the worst guy ever.
We have to, ah, never mind.
He's fine.
He's back in the club.
Well, Trump won.
And that kind of changed things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right, number nine.
Which American Civil War battle had the most casualties?
Ooh.
Oh, that's a, that's a tough question, actually.
Uh, oof.
I don't know if I like that question.
I don't know.
Seems like y'all know more about Civil Wars than our producers do here.
Well, so my question with that is, how do you define battle?
Because... Yeah, how do you define battle?
Like, that's a tough one.
It's a pretty famous one.
Yeah, I could give you two answers.
Oh, are you thinking... Okay, I think I know what you're thinking of.
That's a fair point.
I assume he means battle battle.
Are you talking about after the Winter Soldier killed Tony Stark's parents?
Yeah, right.
It was a timeline.
Shortly thereafter.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I'm throwing at a dartboard right here.
All right.
Let me see your dartboard, Michael.
Bull run?
I don't know.
First or second.
Tim?
Gettysburg.
Gettysburg!
I thought it was too obvious to say Gettysburg.
The reason I was asking is because I'm pretty sure there are bloodier instances You know, I'm like, Sherman's march to the sea is not considered a battle, I guess, but man, that was... Yeah, I think it was 50,000 people died in Gettysburg.
Number 10, which senator had two sons who became major generals during the Civil War?
One for the North, and one for the South.
Is it A, John C. Calhoun, B, Henry Clay, C, Stephen A. Douglas, or D, John J. Crittenden?
I'm saying D. Me too, I had no idea.
That's correct!
You're both right!
It's because he's like the only one who doesn't have a really famous name.
Yeah, he was a U.S.
Senator from Kentucky.
Wow.
Number 11.
The French Revolution got so nuts, they even tried to establish a new way to tell time with their revolutionary calendar.
How many days were there in the French Republican calendar?
10 seconds.
All right, Michael, you got it.
A thousand.
I put 300.
It's 10 days in the calendar.
The day was divided into just 10 hours.
That's 10 hours total, not 10 hours a.m.
to p.m.
And the hours consisted of 100 minutes, and a minute consisted of 100 seconds.
Wait, so 10 days were in the year?
It was just like their calendar was just by a week.
It was going like that.
No, dude, that's not... You wouldn't say that's how many days are in the year.
I mean, that's just how it's described.
Repeat the question.
How many days were there in the French Republican calendar?
Yeah, so how many days are there in our calendar?
Seven.
No, there are 365 days in our calendar.
We're striking that question.
Come on, you meant how many distinct days are counted per week?
How many days in a week is what you were asking.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that question, we're eliminating that question from the record.
That's outrageous.
Wikipedia is not moderate or accurate, you know?
Listed, yeah.
All right, well, we'll call that a null and we'll move on to number 12.
Number 12, in the movie Civil War, what was the name of the reporter played by Kirsten Dunst who was killed at the end of the movie?
Oh.
Wait.
Oh.
The new movie.
The movie wasn't good enough.
Y'all both watched it.
I was sitting next to you when I watched it.
But you want to hear a secret?
I wasn't paying very much attention.
I'm going to come up with, what's the most offensive name I can come up with?
Yeah, hmm.
One that's least likely to be right.
I have no idea.
I think I've got it.
You probably got it, I don't know.
I think I've got it.
Alright Mike, what do you have?
Is it Shaniqua?
I just put Sam!
Sam was closer, but neither one of you got it.
Her name was Lee Smith.
I would never.
Oh, that's right.
That one with the other Civil War movie, I would never have.
I'm learning that I don't know anything about Civil Wars at all.
But I really loved that movie because, and I mean this honestly, it really shows the depravity of journalists, and I'm not exaggerating.
Yeah, yeah.
The scene where it shows the guy, there's bombs going off, people are dying, and the main character guy looks to the young girl and he smiles and nods, and she smiles and nods back, and it's just like, I've personally experienced these people, they're psychotic.
Yeah, yeah, even the final scene, that spoiler alert.
Yep.
It's some stone-cold psychos in the press corps.
And I guarantee you that would happen.
Yep.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Should we say what the story was?
Just so people know?
She dies.
Spoiler alert.
Journalist calls, I'm being a bit gross, he basically steps over her dead body to get the photo, to get the shot.
He renders no aid to her as she is going down and he runs in because he doesn't care about her.
And the younger girl just snaps the pic of her falling.
That's exactly what would happen.
She takes a picture of her dead on the ground and goes, okay, next story.
What is the current score?
8-5.
Pretty close.
Okay, all right.
I guess maybe there's a chance for a comeback.
Probably not.
All right, number 13.
In 1939, Hattie McDaniel was the first black woman to win an Academy Award for her performance in what Civil War-themed movie?
All right, Knowles.
Winter Soldier, Captain... No, I'm joking.
Gone with the Wind.
That's what I got.
That is correct.
Gone with the Wind.
My handwriting is much worse than Mammy.
Mammy.
She was great.
All right, number 14.
In 1862, the U.S.
Congress authorized the first paper currency during the American Civil War.
What were these bills called?
Y'all both start writing really quick.
I guess that was an easy one.
Tim, what do you have?
Greenback?
Greenbacks.
Greenbacks, that's correct.
This isn't good because I'm getting them now, but so's Tim, which doesn't help me.
Maybe you should have kept that French question, because I think you were closer to the week.
I know.
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
I think he would have won that one, too.
Yeah, he would have won that, too.
Alright.
This thrill-seeking activity was used strategically during the Civil War for reconnaissance and attacks.
What was this activity?
A thrill-seeking activity?
Yeah, I know this one.
It's a thrill-seeking activity.
All right.
This answer is wrong, but at least it's kind of funny.
The photos of this are actually pretty funny.
All right.
What do you got, Tim?
Hot air balloons.
Hot air balloons.
Oh, no, no, no.
It's obviously bungee jumping.
It is hot air balloons.
No!
There's these really funny photos you can see during the Civil War.
Dude, you've never seen General Lee just tied by his ankle diving off a cliff?
I do want to point out, I live next to Harper's Ferry and the John Brown Museum.
So when you walk down the street, literally anywhere you go, they have all of these plaques everywhere.
There's cannons, there's plaques.
You go out for coffee and there's a plaque being like, this is where this happened, this is where that happened.
You drive down to Winchester and you're hanging out at Lee's Compound.
So the hot air balloon was kind of easy.
I'm like, they got pictures of that everywhere.
But dude, did you see all the plaques to the bungee jumping?
The Taiping Rebellion, which broke out in 1850, would come to be the bloodiest civil war in human history.
That would have been so epic.
They used standard rope and shattered their spines when they did it, but, you know, got the job done.
All right.
The Taiping Rebellion, which broke out in 1850, would come to be the bloodiest civil war in human history.
How many lives do historians estimate were lost?
You don't hear about this one as much.
Well, I actually live next to a monument for the Taiping Rebellion, so it's sort of like Tim, but there's a lot more bungee jumping, though.
That's what confused me.
It has a number just plaqued there, too.
All right, what do you have?
One and a half million?
I put three million.
The correct answer is thirty million.
Oh!
So, was I closer?
You were closer.
According to the French Revolutionary Calculation, was I?
All right, here we go.
This famous author traveled to Spain to report on the Spanish Civil War and stayed to join the Republican militia.
Oh, I knew this.
I can't remember.
Wait, hold on.
You said American author or English author?
Famous author.
Famous author.
Oh.
Tip of my tongue.
I can't get it.
I can't think.
I know it.
I was just reading about this a couple months ago.
All right.
Tim, what do you have?
I put Michael Knowles, but I know he got it.
I would have been.
I wouldn't have been fighting for the Republicans, that's for sure.
Is that Orwell?
That is correct.
George Orwell.
Oh man.
I almost faked myself out and wrote Hemingway, confusing it with World War I.
I was just reading about this, actually, not that long ago.
It was like tip of my tongue, I couldn't get it.
And was that question worth 15 points?
Because then it might be a tie game.
Well, this one's going to be easy for you, so you can just stage your comeback now.
Okay, good.
In Game of Thrones, the Dance of Dragons is a royal war of succession and civil war in the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros, fought between two rival factions of the House Targaryen.
What were the names of these two rival factions, Michael?
So easy.
I don't even know what to write.
This one's pretty obvious.
Have you guys caught up on the new season?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I'm still catching up on the first season.
I'm going to put a second guess here, too.
Ten seconds?
All right, I got it.
All right, Michael, what do you have?
The obvious answer is the Guelphs and the Ghibellines.
But if that answer doesn't do it for you, I would say the houses of Lancaster and York.
I drew a cat.
I think Michael was closer, technically, so he gets to navigate.
It's the Blacks and the Greens.
Oh.
Oh yeah, of course.
It's the Blacks and the Greens?
Those are the two rival factions of House Targaryen.
Huh.
That's so lame.
I would have expected some ornate, sort of pseudo-medieval name.
Like Guelph and Ghibelline, which is not, that's actually a medieval name.
Yeah, Game of Thrones is not exactly Lord of the Rings.
Okay, alright.
It's not quite there.
Blacks and the Greens.
Blacks.
Are we even allowed to say that anymore?
A faction of color.
They're both factions of color, I guess.
All right, what's the score?
15-14.
The score currently is 8-11, Tim Pool.
However, there is a chance for the bonus question to go double or nothing, go all in, and just see what happens.
I know you're a gambling man, Tim, so do you want to wager that?
Yeah, let's say you, Tim.
Is this the last question?
This is the last question.
Yeah, I'll wager everything.
Let's go!
All right, let's go, baby!
Let's go, baby!
All right!
I'm so glad that after I described how much I regretted doing this with Kaya Raychik, that you're doing the same thing.
Even though you're probably going to get it.
It's going to be a hard one, right?
This is a very hard one.
It's also going to be whoever gets closest, all right?
All right.
In 1967, the song Together Again, the hit single from the first Smokey Mike and the God King album, was released.
However, that is not the only version of this classic.
Notably, the live version, recorded later by Smokey Mike and the God King at the historic Ryman Auditorium, and the modern cover done by Tim Cass, which resurrected the band after Ian was caught mercilessly beating that child.
What was the total runtime of the original Together Again single?
He's gonna freaking know it.
Better than I did, because he worked on the cover.
All three versions are different times, so... Wait, so you're saying the original... The original, not the live version at the Ryman.
The live version is the original.
No, but it's the release... Okay, all right, sure.
The performance was much longer than the original single.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Write down 10 minutes, then I can win.
Yeah, I...
Yeah, yeah.
Are we doing it in French time or English time?
They call it English time now.
Oh, man, there's so much riding on this.
And I partially wrote the song.
All right, Tim, do you have yours?
I wrote 5.35.
Probably wrong.
I said 3.10.
It's four minutes and 56 seconds, so I... Highest without going over, yes!
Yeah!
Closer.
I believe Tim won that, because he was closest to it.
So... Wrong song, Michael.
Ooh, that's gotta be embarrassing.
Michael, two in a row.
Yeah.
Four minutes and 56 seconds.
You're telling me the one on Spotify is almost five?
We are the most self-indulgent people on the face of the earth.
How long was the- I knew it was around five minutes.
And I was like, I didn't know if it was like low five or high five.
And I was like, I'll just put five and a half.
Yeah.
And the Timcast version was shorter than that, obviously.
It was a little more upbeat, a little faster.
In my mind, the Timcast beautiful synthwave 80s version was longer, actually, than the original.
Wow.
You know, what I will say is the reason I probably got closer, Michael, is because I'm a huge fan and I actually, that song's in our playlist, so it comes on quite a bit.
Hey, look, I'm honored.
I'm honored by your beautiful reinterpretation of it.
And I Just got destroyed by facts and logic and Tim Pool.
So, I do a pitch for the show?
Yep, we'll put 30 seconds on the clock, and Micah, would you please tell everyone why they should tune in to the TimCast IRL?
Many, many reasons.
Tim himself, obviously, possesses a great deal of knowledge, far more than I, apparently, at least on the topic of Civil War and Marvel movies and my own musical works.
Also, because the co-hosts and guests on Tim's show are really terrific, eccentric, delightful people.
I'm thinking of Ian, many other people on the show.
But the main reason that Tim's show is so great is that it made my book Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, hit number one on the charts.
So for that reason alone, you should tune in and support TimCast in all its various forms and through all its various media.
That was lovely.
Wow.
Tim, I'm not wearing a hat.
If I were, my hat would be off to you.
That was painful for me, but very impressive.
It's been fun.
I was surprised I got as many as I did.
Yeah.
And Ben, I would like to say to you, I can't believe you don't understand the difference between a week and a year.
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