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So you don't think that humanity is 10,000 years old, but you think that view is more insightful.
To quote C.S.
Lewis.
No, don't quote C.S.
Lewis.
Quote yourself.
To quote Michael Knowles.
One time I read C.S.
Lewis and what he told me was... No, I'm quoting me.
The human species is blank years old.
So you think... So yes is the answer.
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Mr. Walsh, I don't know who won the last game, I don't remember that this ever happened.
Well, part of that, I think, is cheer.
Chin-chin to your health.
You remember the rules?
I don't.
That makes two of us.
But I am supposed to wait to drink until something happens?
Yes.
If you get it right, then you get to drink.
And if you get it wrong, you have to drink.
Got it.
Okay.
I will go first.
Most lesbians can't do three push-ups and should not serve in combat roles.
Wait.
I'm guessing whether you think that's correct.
Yes.
And then you'll move my glass based on what you think my answer would be.
Most lesbians can't do three push-ups and should not serve in combat roles.
I think that's obviously a yes.
It's the and that's getting me.
All right, well you said it's obviously a yes, so I agree that that's your answer.
I just, it's an and.
I think probably most lesbians could do three push-ups.
They shouldn't serve in combat roles.
But do you think most women can do three push-ups?
I don't know, but I bet that lesbians outperform women generally.
What is it about being a lesbian that would imbue you with upper body strength?
If that's correct, I would say maybe women on average can do no push-ups.
Yeah.
And lesbians on average can do like one and a half.
Okay, but it's not three.
And we're basically taking the lipstick lesbians out of this also because they don't exist.
Right.
Yeah.
But are we talking about lesbians in combat roles or women in general?
I think lesbians.
Does that change your answer?
Because I'm opposed to women in combat.
Right.
Are you saying we could make an exception for lesbians?
No, no, I think, I think, yeah, I don't know why we focus this on lesbians.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why is Mr. Davies so focused on lesbians?
It's a really good question.
All right.
You're up.
Oh, okay.
Matt Walsh takes more vacation days than Joe Biden.
It's, it's unfair.
That you get so many vacation days.
Well, first of all, because if I take two vacation days in a whole year, then I take more vacation than any... You don't go on vacation.
I basically don't go on vacation.
Do you know why?
I'm going to tell you why.
Maybe this is a neurosis of mine.
I have this fear that if I miss even one minute of my show, People, they're going to say, wait, I don't need to listen to that.
Why do I need to listen to that guy?
And they'll never listen to me again.
Here's the point.
The audience already knows that.
Like, they know they don't need us.
So you think that they're pulling this over on them, but they already are aware of it.
So you might as well just go on vacation and enjoy yourself.
Yeah, I think it was an obvious answer.
I'm saying this about myself?
No, I'm saying what do you think?
You're saying what I think.
But now I said that you would agree because you're a reasonable man.
You know, you say no.
Yeah, no, I say no.
Wow.
No, I have to agree.
I take like one vacation a year.
You take at most one vacation a day.
At most.
At most, I'm saying.
And most weeks, it's only two vacations a week.
And I get killed.
The audience kills me over it.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not allowed to leave.
Where do you go?
Places.
I don't know.
You know, sometimes the family disagrees and they think, like, it's nice to see everyone so well.
I guess that's the difference, because I say to Elisa, I'll say, hey girl, I think this year I'm going to take a few days vacation.
Mac, you got to work.
You got to work, Mac.
I see you too much.
I'll say, well, I want to see you like an hour a day.
That's enough, Mac.
Go on, get.
Get!
That's what I get.
That's the life.
I do not take more vacation days than Joe Biden.
I take at least one less day.
One less minute.
Worrying about ozone depletion and acid rain is basic liberal white girl behavior.
The hysteria is basically just a scheme to get grant money from the government.
The issue is there are two claims being made here.
Wait, do you explain your thoughts on it before I... No, you're right.
Okay, let's move.
Let's move.
I just don't know.
I don't even know my own thoughts.
I'm gonna say yes.
I mean, obviously.
Why is that something to think about?
I'm going to have to say no, actually.
Because, yes, it's basic white girl behavior, obviously.
I don't think it's just about getting grants from the government.
I think the more Marxist analysis of all these programs is that it's all just about the money.
But I don't think it's just about the money.
I think it's about controlling us.
I think it's about deadening our spirits.
I think it's about taking away our self-respect.
But controlling us is part of, I don't remember, Oh, grant money from the government.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So do I get a point?
Well, I'm changing.
Can I change my answer?
I'm changing mine.
Wait, you can't change your answer.
You said the answer was right.
I didn't realize the just.
I didn't hear the just part.
All right.
Judges, judges, does this man get to cheat like this and change his answer?
The just changes everything.
I didn't hear.
Can I get an official ruling, please?
He can change it.
Whose side are you on?
It's what I believe.
It's outrageous.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm going to drink anyway.
All right.
Condoms are at least kinda gay.
But they added in the at least there, so I don't even know, how does that impact?
So they could be super gay.
But they're at least kind of gay.
Why do you need at least if kinda is already there, is my question.
Yeah.
There could be a just and a basically.
There's a lot of weaselly modifiers.
Condoms are at least just basically kinda gay.
Kinda super gay.
Well, I think Media Matters has documented your opinion on this.
I'm not joking.
I retweeted the Media Matters clip of me saying that.
Like 25 minutes ago before I came to the studio.
The writers of this would not have even seen that because thanks birth control.
Yeah, I saw that.
Did you see that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it is, there's nothing, if a conservative is going, anyone who has a traditional sexual ethic is going to disagree with the sexual revolution and the LGBT element of it.
Then I think he's got to be consistent, because what's wrong with the LGBT, one of the main things that's wrong with the LGBT stuff is that it's a sterile sexual ethic, but so is birth control.
So it's at least kind of gay, right?
Yeah.
You've got what now, 17 kids?
Yeah, well that's why I think that my, with six kids, my opinion on that's probably pretty well established.
Although we are doing two at a time, so... Yeah, it's true.
That's kind of cheating.
But you are... You are not kind of gay.
Well, I appreciate that.
You are not.
The numbers there... If you had only had, like, four or four and a half, I would say, well, jury's out.
But... six?
You got catching up to do.
I got some catching up to do.
I got some proven to do.
And already, in my intro on my show, I'm dancing in loafers, so I might need eight, actually, to prove it.
That's a whole other conversation.
Maybe later in the car.
Dancing on the desk.
You know why?
What was the thought process there?
So, first of all, I didn't write that part.
That was some of our eccentricism.
Michael Knowles' intro is at least kind of gay.
It's at least kind of.
But then I kind of liked it.
Because, here my thought was, media matters.
It's kind of gay, but I kind of like it.
But I kind of like shit, because I'm pretty and witty.
And the media matters, they're always trying to say, Knowles is a homophobe, he's gonna like throw gay guys off rooftops like the Taliban or whatever.
And I thought, a great way to counteract that is in the show, I can have my really traditional rhetoric, right?
And have the gayest intro ever filmed.
But if I have the gayest intro of not just any conservative talk show, of any show, including Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, if I have that it's gonna balance out and kind of trick them.
That's my theory.
How does the audience feel about the intro?
They are so torn on it.
The ones who really get it, the sort of Straussian esoteric viewers, they get a kick out of it.
But I would say your average kind of conservative guy looks at that and he says, Michael, you look like a fanook.
And I can't dispute that.
That's Italian for fennel, I think, actually.
But the meaning is, you're a little, you know, a friend of Dorothy.
It has a Wes Anderson vibe to it.
Yes, it does.
I don't mean that as a compliment.
No, Wes Anderson is at least kind of gay.
Letting your wife drive is the most egregious form of vehicular cuckolding.
I hadn't heard that yet.
I'm gonna say...
I mean, it becomes more of a dispute if it's like the most egregious form of cuckoldry.
Yeah, now that would be when the mailman enters your home.
There's a lot of egregious forms.
But vehicular, like what other, you know, how many times, how many ways can you cuckold yourself in a car?
Right.
Especially a moving car.
I guess if the mailman It's true.
Asking for a ride.
I thought, before I finished reading the question, I thought it was going to say, it's the most egregious form of vehicular risk-taking, or danger, or recklessness.
In which case, I would say, it's not the most dangerous.
If you went out and had ten shots of vodka, Smoked a couple crackpipes and got behind the wheel of a car.
That would at least be on par.
I hold my crackpipes pretty well.
You do?
Yeah.
I was one time driving around with a Daily Wire host in the middle of Texas and his wife, I'm not going to say, but his wife drove because we had had a few Coca-Colas.
And this Daily Wire host, I'm not going to say who, He said, OK, I think that it's less dangerous for my wife, sober, to drive than it is for me, drunk, to drive.
But the jury's out.
Which host was that?
So it's a male?
It's a male.
I'm not going to say who.
You probably weren't driving around with Ben, so... No, I wouldn't.
And Ben, he doesn't drink a lot.
Rum or Rita, every time.
Yeah, true.
You know, I... Yeah, I think it's... Well, here's the thing.
I think it's shameful to allow your wife to drive.
I will admit that on...
We do a lot of driving in my family.
We drive like 18 hours.
So, in our most recent 18-hour trip, I did surrender the wheel for, I'd say, two of the 18 hours.
There's still 16 of 18 hours.
Were you sleeping during that or you were just kind of hanging out?
Well, I wanted to sleep, but then I couldn't because I was so terrified she was going to kill us.
So I stayed.
But then, and this is true, like two of 16 hours is all, and we happen to pull into a rest stop and some, you know, I got recognized sitting in the freaking car, like a fan pulled up right next to us and parked.
You're most recognizable in a car.
That is kind of your home setting.
As soon as we pulled in and I'm in the passenger seat, I actually thought to myself, like, this would be really embarrassing if someone knows me.
And right in that moment, seriously, someone pulled in, parked, got out of their car, like, hey, it's Matt Walsh, sitting in the passenger seat.
How did you live that down?
I didn't.
You didn't.
That's not possible.
Can't do it.
You're up.
Fractured memories can be passed through your DNA.
I don't even know what that means.
I don't really know either.
Fractured memories.
It sounds like bullsh**.
But it sounds... Is it just like racism?
Is it just like you inherit the oppression?
No, it's your memories.
So you have memories of your past, of your descendants.
I'm going to have to say no.
I don't even know where that comes from.
Why was that in the show?
Who wrote that?
I don't know.
Like, epigenetics is real.
That's not memories.
That's not a memory.
This is like you're sleeping and you have a flashback to getting chased by a saber-toothed tiger or something.
I think is what it means.
Wow, I don't have many of those flashbacks.
Yeah, very rarely.
Yeah, I mean a little bit.
A few acid drips in the occasional, but not the Sabretooth Tigers.
"Life as we know it started about 8,000 years ago, and all the 24 billion years old nonsense is just a bunch of lies cooked up by atheists, liberals, and other assorted hippies." That's interesting.
I'm glad that one's in there, because I actually don't know if you're one of these young Earths.
I don't know if you're in the Ken Ham camp or not.
I'm more of a Ken Prosciutto kind of guy.
True.
I'm going to say yes.
I'm going to say that you are.
I have a tough answer on this.
Of course you do.
But to get the point, at least I'm going to say no.
But here's my view, which really could fall into either category.
I do not have any strong theological, not a strong theological need, or anthropological or historical need to say that the Earth is 8,000 years old.
Okay, let me just clarify one thing.
I thought, I didn't think that you had a theological reason to say that the Earth is 8,000 years old.
I figured it was contrarian.
Purely contrarian.
I thought that's what would lead you there.
No, it, I guess, this is my issue.
I like, the contrarian part is nice too.
The issue is, One, the 24 billion years stuff, they change that number all the time, and they'll say the universe is actually half as old as they said it was, or twice as old, or whatever.
So, they don't really know.
But, I don't need the first chapters of Genesis to be read literally.
In fact, I think it's a bit odd to read them literally.
But, I am convinced that the description of the evolution of mankind, as given in the book of Genesis, is more accurate Okay, so do you think the Earth... You don't need the Earth to be very young, but do you think that it is?
That was the question.
I don't think the Earth is very young.
If mankind... I don't know how old mankind is.
I'm not convinced by any of the numbers that are thrown around.
And what I am convinced of is that the view of human history as being six or ten thousand years is a more Insightful view than whatever it's like 200,000 years and we used to be like cavemen beating each other on the heads or whatever.
So you don't think that humanity is 10,000 years old but you think that view is more insightful?
No, I'm saying that it is 10,000 years old is more insightful than it is 200,000 years old.
But you don't think that it is?
Or you do?
To quote C.S.
Lewis.
No, don't quote C.S.
Lewis.
Quote yourself.
To quote Michael Knowles.
One time I read C.S.
Lewis and what he told me was... No, I'm quoting me.
The Earth is blank years old.
The Earth... Oh, I don't know.
The Earth can be a bazillion years old.
I don't care about that.
The human species is blank years old.
The human species... Fill in the blanks.
...for all intents and purposes... No, no, I just... Yes, no, that's... What do you mean for all intents and purposes?
Well, because... It's however old it is.
If some kind of evolution took place...
Whether that is punctuated equilibrium, whether that is a kind of minor type of evolution.
If some kind of evolution, if there were some breeding between a group that we now call... That wasn't even the question!
Well, but the reason what matters is this, to quote C.S.
Lewis, if there was some kind of ape-like, human-like creature... Life as we know it.
That's not even human life.
Life as we, meaning like mitochondrial, you know... Just existence, like everything around you.
Well, everything around me is rather young.
If you're saying, like, rocks and stuff, I don't know.
The ground.
Yeah, the ground is old.
You don't have to dig that right.
Yeah, the ground is old.
But life as we know it, meaning human beings.
Yes.
How old do you think the human species is?
Not counting, like, you know, cavemen or nephilim or anything.
Just human?
I think.
Anything we would describe as human.
So you think, so yes is the answer.
No, no, I would say no.
We went all around this circle.
For the purposes of my point.
No, because listen, I don't deny.
It took you 24 billion years to answer the question.
We got back to yes.
There's something like, there's probably something like a Neanderthal.
In fact, if you look at the mixtures of DNA, Sub-Saharan Africans don't have any Neanderthal in them.
People who come not from Sub-Saharan Africa do have Neanderthals.
There are different breakdowns in Aboriginal Australians and all this kind of stuff.
So there were weird, vaguely gorilla-like creatures who were bordering on humans, I think.
Neanderthals, some have said, buried their dead.
What does that mean?
I don't know what any of that means.
I don't know what all of this is about.
But if you're asking me about something that we would call... I'm not asking you anything.
I'm asking you about the card.
You ask yourself.
Well, look, the card is very ambiguous.
It's poorly written.
It's not ambiguous at all, really.
Life as we know it?
Life!
What is life?
Life as we know it, or life... Are you a lib now?
You don't know what life is?
No, I'm saying, are we talking about a prokaryotic cell, or are we talking about a eukaryotic cell?
Are we talking about a virus?
That's not even life.
Then, whatever you consider life to be, Well, now we're getting real hippie, man.
Whatever, it's like, man, your life is, you know.
Okay, so your answer is yes.
My answer, judges, in that, in my beautifully articulate description of reconciling the literal and the figurative, where do you rule?
Did I say no or yes?
I said, no, that's because Davies is like a younger guy.
I can't even hear him.
But Davies said that because he thinks the earth is like three days old.
He goes even further.
You know, he doesn't, he doesn't believe in the 1950s.
Uh, as far as the, so, uh, as far as the earth itself or really the universe, to me, I'm the last guy to say trust the science because we know where that leads.
This is all fake.
Right.
There are some inescapable physical realities.
So, for example, there's like the distant, what the Young Earth Creationists would call the distant starlight problem.
I mean, it's not a problem, but when you're looking up at the sky and you can see a star...
That's a million light years away.
That means that, like, that's proof right there that the Earth has been around, or rather the universe has been around for at least a million years.
And this is not a problem for Catholics, in part because the theorizer of the Big Bang was not only a Catholic, but a Catholic priest, Fr.
George Lemaître.
So that doesn't bother me whatsoever.
Though they do kind of change the numbers on how old things are and, you know, they're kind of interesting.
It's not going to be exact.
We know the universe is very, very old.
But I guess where the rubber really meets the road for me is not, it's not even the age of the human race, which it can be whatever.
Do we descend from common ancestors?
Adam and Eve.
That's where the rubber meets the road for me.
Where I think, yes.
Well, right.
But I think you also touched on it, that as Catholics, the great thing is that none of this is like a problem.
Monogenism is though.
Pius XII said that we have to believe in a common ancestor.
Yeah.
So are you, you're not being, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know if you were, if you became a Protestant on this episode, that would be big ratings.
Well, the Protestants, but young earth creations is, is.
Most super-Protestant.
Aliens are just a cooked up narrative by modernists trying to cover up the metaphysical reality of angels and demons.
They're not challenging us too much on this one, are they?
Mm-hmm.
And you're gonna say, I'm just trying to see if you've come to your senses yet.
I'm going to drink it either way, so I'll just take it.
The alien question is related to the previous question.
I don't think it is.
Why is it related?
Are they saved?
Well, I don't know what their salvation history is.
Is there a fourth person of the Trinity?
No.
Who's like a Martian?
No.
No.
You were just quoting C.S.
Lewis a second ago.
Yeah, I know.
That's what gets me into trouble.
I know.
So, you know, we don't know.
I can't, that's a question I can't answer, but just because I can't answer the question doesn't mean that, like, just because it's incomprehensible for me, like, what would the salvation history be of an intelligent race?
Would they even be fallen?
Yeah, would they?
I think, at a minimum, it would seem to me that any rational species in the universe would have had the same opportunity to make a choice as we did.
And if it's a real choice, then you could have unfallen species, yeah.
Although, even onto that, a little baby doesn't have the choice.
A little baby's born into original sin.
So is it the case like Milton describes in Paradise Lost?
Yeah, but the actual original sin comes from the human beings.
But it pervades all of creation.
It pervades the deer and the trees and the whole thing, right?
Sin and death pervade the whole cosmos.
But I think it's clear that scripture is talking about... Scripture has no interest in the universe.
Does it not?
The cosmos?
There's very little about it, and what is said is like, if you take it literally, you come to some incorrect conclusions about the nature of the cosmos, which tells me that it's just not, the Bible's not trying to tell us anything about the rest of the universe one way or another, probably because it's not something we need to know.
Look, this is what Cardinal Baroni, he said, the Bible tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go.
It's a little bit lib, because it was kind of like for pro-Galileo, which is a whole other In general, dating sites are for guys who don't have the gullions to talk to a woman in person.
He wrote a nastier word there, but I put it in Italian.
What did he write?
That's a word for cojones.
Coglioni.
Gullions.
You know, he wrote.
Why are balls nastier?
Why is balls nastier than what you said?
Because no one speaks Italian.
Balls is like a one-syllable word.
I think it's a fine word.
Yeah, but Italian is so beautiful.
You know, that sounds almost romantic.
So you think Italian balls are beautiful?
That's almost a direct translation.
I don't even remember the question.
We were talking about bullion so much.
There's for guys who'd... I'm gonna say you said nudity, right?
Yeah.
That's correct.
I'm correct?
No, you're correct about my guess.
You're trying to intuit the answer by, like, staring at me?
Yeah.
Uh, yeah, no, that's correct.
Okay.
So, I don't think, look, uh... It's 2023.
What's that?
It's 2023.
Dating sites are, uh, can be a really useful tool.
I mean, first of all, I try not to... I cannot imagine being in the modern dating scene.
It just must be a nightmare.
Like, I thank God every day I'm not in it.
So I don't want to sit here as a happily married man and say, well, you shouldn't be using that tool.
And probably if you want to meet someone these days, it's probably one of the only ways to do it.
And going up and talking to someone randomly is rife with difficulty.
Right, and especially today.
Back in my single days, brief though they were, you know what?
I like women.
I liked chatting women up and asking them out.
I find that kind of fun.
But today, we're in the Me Too culture.
So you go up to a woman and you say, hi, I like your dress.
And she bare sprays you and has you arrested or something.
You can't do that.
I mean, the dating, you know, and not all sites are made the same, so.
Yeah.
The hookup apps are one thing.
I think they still have, like, eHarmony.
Oh, yeah.
My parents met on Grindr, you know.
Did they?
Yeah.
Classic, classic love story.
You know, tale as old as time.
I have friends who are black, or my producer is black, should be accepted as an argument against accusations of racism.
I've been saying that about Davies for years.
Wrong.
Wrong, Bucko!
I'm going to challenge my inner Jordan Peterson there.
I think it's a totally acceptable excuse.
I agree.
Well, my only caveat is I don't think that you should be offering these desperate defenses.
I'm not racist.
However, when it comes to actual defenses, I've always thought having a black friend is like, yeah, you're probably not racist if you have a black friend.
How is that not?
Everyone says, well, that's a classic thing racists say.
If you actually have a friend who is of that race, it's a pretty good indication you don't hate people of that race.
By the way, most of the white libs don't have black friends.
Some of them do.
I'm not saying none of them have black friends, but a lot of them live in the most lily white neighborhoods that exist.
And then they attack those of us who have black friends or black producers.
Yeah.
I mean, if you have a black producer, you can't be racist.
It's not possible.
I know.
If I was actually racist, I would have went to the Daily Wire years ago and said, I can't work with this person because I'm racist.
I would have said that, but I never said that.
I actually have said many times, please fire Ben Davies and get me a black producer.
That's how anti-racist you are.
That is.
I know.
Or a white producer.
Or just anybody.
Other than Ben Davies.
Yeah.
The recent decline in church attendance is actually more concerning when accounting for the number of FBI agents in the congregation.
I hadn't thought about that actually.
You got it right.
It's concerning in general, I guess when you add in that.
I hadn't thought about it either.
Especially if you consider, if you go to a more traditional church service, certainly the Latin Mass.
That's got to be like two-thirds feds at this point.
True.
There's reason to think that the church... What does it look like in 20 years?
How many churches are still left?
Right.
In Germany, none.
In Germany, it's going to be...
They'll be either Unitarian or just, like, I don't know, Cordellos or something.
But it's also self-inflicted, because I still think the pandemic comes along, the church is willingly shut down, lots of people... Yeah.
A lot of people weren't going already, but many people who were said, well, if apparently it's not that important, you can just shut down, then what do I need you for?
I even, some Christians told me, they said, Michael, the church is not a place, you know, it's the people, it's the called-out people.
And obviously there's a lot of truth to that.
It's also a place.
It's also a place.
It's like a place where you gather more than two together, and you have sacraments and stuff, and you don't have the rite and the sacrament of the Purell and the facemantia.
And it's called a church.
Called a church.
We call it that.
Yeah.
Is it mine?
Yes.
Practically speaking, AI porn should at least be allowed to progress because it removes at least the objectified parties from the equation and puts pimps out of business.
I'd be shocked if you...
That's insane.
You know why people think it?
Look, we have, I won't name them, but we have friends, prominent conservatives, who would say, no, porn is fine because, you know, you can blow off a little steam and then you're not going to go to a whorehouse or cheat on your wife or in some other way.
I think the reason, especially certain Gen X and boomer conservatives think that, I think because they're in the thrall of Freud, whether they know it or not.
And they think that the mind is like a steam engine, and they think you gotta just blow off a little steam, you know?
And so you're gonna go look at your weirdo AI porn at night, and then you'll feel better during the day.
But that's not how it works.
If you look at your weirdo porn at night, you know what you're gonna do the next day?
Look at weirder porn.
And then eventually you're going to cheat on your wife.
And I think arguably, so I think AI porn is less harmful to the participants because they're not real.
Yeah.
But arguably, it's probably more harmful I mean, you could make an argument it's more harmful to the viewer just because it's even less human.
Like, watching porn is already a very dehumanizing thing to do, and now you're watching these figures who aren't even people.
Yeah.
They're just phantoms.
Right, yeah.
You're becoming, like, sexually aroused by, like, what's really just digital code on a screen.
Right.
Which, I would argue, if anything, is, like, more harmful to the... It's also more dangerous.
One time I was speaking to a boomer friend and he said, I can't believe these kids, you know, they'd rather look at porn than go sleep with a woman.
And I said, I totally, I totally get it.
And the reason I get it is because you go talk to a woman, she might reject you.
She's not going to be perfect.
She's not going to just do every weirdo fantasy in your head.
But porn, increasingly with AI, you can construct just your craziest fantasy of a person that doesn't even exist.
And so in a way it's really dangerous even to your own appetite.
You think that like a regular porn would mess up men's views of sex.
Wait until you can just craft whatever insanity is banging around your head.
And they prefer porn because they think of sex as nothing but, as you said, just a - Mechanistic. - A release, yeah.
It's just a thing and you get what you want out of it and then you move on.
If that's all it is, then yeah, porn is a much easier replacement if you take out the whole human relationship part of the equation. - We won't be able to put this part on certain social media platform, but that's obviously, the reason trans is a thing is just 'cause of porn, the reason trans is a thing is just 'cause of porn, Oh yeah.
Totally.
I mean, not the full reason, because it did predate... Yeah, no, there's a little... There's like some... But the thing that has made it... Well, it's also, like, people don't realize with the trans thing that there's like three different...
Uh, branches that are only vaguely related.
Like, there's the... Denominations, we say.
You might have caught it.
It's like, you've got, like, the adolescent teen girl, which I think actually has very little to do with pornography.
Yeah.
Then you've got young children who are, and that's got nothing to do, and that's just the parents.
But then you have the men, adult men.
Yeah.
Who come out as trans.
That is, like, all porn.
It's all porn.
That's 100% porn.
That branch is all porn.
The rest of it is other... Other sexual pathologies.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Okay.
Western opposition to the Ugandan law putting restrictions on weird sex stuff is really just a form of neocolonialism.
Yep.
For sure.
What else would you call neocolonialism?
Right.
It's the only form of colonialism that's still, like, operative in the world.
And I say that as someone who's, like, an unapologetic advocate for many forms of colonialism, as I assume you are as well.
Yeah, of course.
But it's not just the process, it's not just colonialism writ large, it's, well, what are you spreading?
Right.
Truth, justice, the American way, Christianity, the faith, or like a rainbow flag in Kandahar.
Yeah.
It's really all about Christianity.
That's why colonialism 500 years ago was primarily an effort to spread the faith, and now it's an effort to destroy the faith, and so that's why it's Right.
People misunderstand Columbus immensely, but Columbus is prime motivator.
It was the spread of the faith.
And even in as much as he wanted to find riches, it was to fund another crusade.
This man was extremely devout.
And because we live in a materialist age, we just don't even understand that.
We don't understand what it means to have a belief in something beyond this world and have that motivate your behavior.
But that was the whole thing.
I mean, that led to the founding of the Western Hemisphere.
I think the two biggest Columbus fans in media are sitting at this table.
Probably the two only ones.
To Christopher.
I have one Columbus rant that I just give every Columbus Day.
I just return to it, and the audience is bored, and they're like, please move on.
Please take vacation.
Okay, now we finally got to an interesting one.
Leaning your seat back on an airplane is a paying customer's human right.
Leaning your seat back is a human right for the paying customer.
I'm going to hope that you have your wits about you on this issue.
And I, in total despair for you and your reason and society, am going to now realize that you have fallen into evil advice.
You're a seat?
Leanbacker?
Frankly, before takeoff sometimes.
Okay, but hold on a second.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You're talking about first class, Mr. Elitist.
I'm talking about coach, too.
Yes, certainly first class.
Don't pretend to be a flight coach, first of all.
Listen, I'll give you a good example of this.
When Daily Wire books my flights, I want first class.
I want to be sitting with the pilots eating foie gras.
When you book your own, you go, coach?
Really?
Because sometimes I get the automatic upgrade.
And just recently, I went to visit our friend Jeremy Boring and Jonathan Hay.
International flight, you did coach?
Because I was booking my own, and I thought maybe I can work.
And I did.
You don't want to know the scam I got?
So I booked coach.
I wanted an upgrade.
They said, OK, sir, we've upgraded you to Comfort Plus.
That's a crock.
That's nothing.
That just means you get a free drink.
And so then, on the way back, I got a little slight upgrade.
Not like the full business, but I did a slight upgrade.
But on the way there, I'm in coach.
And it was hell.
It was hell, Matt.
It is.
It was international... I'm sorry you went through that.
It was... No one has suffered as I suffered on this flight.
Except everybody else, but yeah.
Yeah, other than all the other people on the plane and most other people for human history.
But I... You know I needed that extra two inches.
No.
If you were in my shoes, you would not have reclined?
No, because I'm not a sociopath.
You would have stayed awake all night contemplating your virtue?
That's how I spend every day, but I don't sleep on planes to begin with because I don't want to sleep.
It's weird to sleep.
Frankly, I think it's slightly gay to sleep around some other strange man.
Yeah, yeah.
And there's many on the plane.
That's why I put my loafers on when I do it.
Those are instead of slippers.
I drool on them sometimes.
It is gay to sleep on a plane.
And adulterous to sleep next to a woman on a plane.
Exactly.
I've been on international flights 18 hours and I don't sleep.
Because I'm so committed to this.
So then why would you buy business class?
The only reason to get business is so you get- Just so I have space to myself!
So I can be a human being!
Treated like a human!
I cuddle up, especially when I get business.
I curl up in a fetal position.
I put the sleep mask on.
Have you been on a flight where they give you pajamas?
No!
Was that Africa?
Qatar Airlines to Africa, they give you pajamas.
No, and I got the pajamas on and I'm like, I'm not putting these on.
And I look back and our security guy already has the pajamas on.
No, you don't lean your suit back on.
You know, because you're in coach, that the person behind... You don't have the leg room to spare.
No, no, no.
You can't type on your laptop if the guy's reclining.
Exactly.
You can't.
You can't do work.
You can't eat.
What are they going to give you?
They're going to give you a Hot Pocket in coach.
Okay, but you can't use the tray table.
You can't use the tray table.
And so you are choosing to take that away from the person behind you.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
And you deserve to be shot in the head.
I love it.
In fact, you know what I'm going to do the next time?
I'm going to recline, and then I'm going to take his Hot Pocket, too.
I'm going to reach back.
It's going to be delicious.
I spoke out about this, I assume that's why it's there, and I just got killed for it.
I was, I honestly was shocked by how wrong, and I'm not usually shocked by this, I was shocked by how wrong everybody is on this.
And also how seriously, people were like legitimately angry at me for criticizing.
Do you know why?
Look, I'm a cheapskate.
It's not, I guess, if I wanted to, I guess I could have Even personally bought this expensive business.
But I said, I'm a cheapskate.
I can't do it.
Even the cheap tickets.
I'm flying to New York for Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
You fly a family of four to New York, it's like thousands of dollars.
So every inch on my seat that I am paying for, that's, I don't know, that's like a $60 inch, right?
By some measure.
And you're taking it away from the person behind you.
Yeah.
I guess I just have this great compassion for the common man.
You're a man of the people.
I'm up.
Republican governors should also include their homeless populations in their shipments of illegal immigrants to liberal cities.
That was not a bad idea.
Uh, I shouldn't have given away my answer.
Well, then.
I mean, yeah.
You revealed yourself.
I did.
I guess, right?
Yeah, I think it's actually a good idea.
Rudy did that back in, I think he did that in the 90s in New York.
He just shipped them all out.
He had, like, Jersey or something.
I mean, you gotta ship them somewhere.
We talked about this on the show recently, but, like, the homeless people, either they're choosing to be on the street because they don't feel like working, in which case, Vagrancy should be illegal, and we say to them, go get a job.
This is not a choice you should be able to make.
Yeah.
Or they're not choosing it because they can't function in society.
Mentally.
Right.
Which is most of them.
In which case, vagrancy should be illegal, and you ship them off to an institution.
Right.
Because it's not charitable to let them, like, die of exposure.
Right.
Exactly.
I've walked out of a subway in New York.
It's really sad.
Walked out of a subway.
A guy had died.
A homeless guy had died of exposure.
If you live in New York or San Francisco, you've probably seen that before.
And so that's obviously not compassionate.
You give them money?
You give them almost money?
Sometimes.
I make it a matter of prudence.
Yeah.
Like, I don't want to kill them.
I don't want to give them money that is just going to immediately go in their veins.
You don't want to kill them, you said?
I don't want to kill them.
That's nice of you.
That's very generous.
Sometimes what you think is charity could actually, like, kill those guys.
Yeah.
Okay.
I see what you're saying.
You know what I'm saying?
But, yeah.
I was at the gas station just last night and a woman came up to me.
Asking for money.
It's always the same story about, you gotta get the bus.
I was like, there's no bus around here.
She said something about going to Chicago.
I'm like, you don't need to go to Chicago.
But I gave her the money, because I'm like, yeah.
I know I'm getting scammed.
There was one time I was driving up to a bar in LA.
And my wife was out of town.
I knew I was going to have a few drinks with the fellas.
And so I hadn't had dinner.
And I pulled into a McDonald's to get a quick dinner before.
I didn't want to have drinks without dinner.
And I'm sitting there just on my phone or something, and this homeless woman knocks on my window.
I said, ah!
She goes, hey, give me money.
And I said, huh?
No, I'm not giving you any money.
You're obviously going to buy a bunch of drugs.
And she goes, give me money.
And I said, no.
I said, but I'll buy you some food.
She goes, and she looked so angry.
She goes, OK, fine.
I said, OK, what do you want?
She goes, OK, I want two filet of fish.
OK.
And I want eggs.
That was the brief period when McDonald's was serving breakfast all day.
I want eggs.
And she picked all these really weird menu items.
And she rings up her tab, probably to like $35.
And I said, OK, all right, that'll get you through the night.
That's enough food.
OK, all right.
So I go in and I order all this weird food, plus my double quarter pounder.
I come out.
She's gone.
That's hilarious.
Well done.
- That's hilarious.
- Yeah, and I-- - Well done.
- Was so angry that I said, she's not gonna get the last lap.
So I brought the food home, I put it in the fridge, and over about two days I ate every bite of it.
- Yeah.
What's your order at?
- Double quarter pounder with cheese always.
That's my go-to.
Fridays?
Double Filet-O-Fish.
It's better than it sounds.
Filet-O-Fish is good.
It's good.
McDonald's and breakfast, like, no fast food chain has figured out how to do a better breakfast than McDonald's.
No one's figured it out.
What's your move, though, on an evening kind of McDonald's?
You know, usually I go with the Big Mac, just classic, but I'll go Filet-O-Fish even when it's not a Friday.
I think it's just a good meal.
You disagree?
That's sick.
That's a psycho order.
Really?
Like, I'll eat it.
I was coming home from... I got a filet-o-fish a couple weeks ago, like at one o'clock in the morning.
I was coming home.
You and Trump.
Trump's a filet-o-fish guy.
Is he?
The only thing we have in common.
Birth control and other hormone-altering drugs explain why women have generally become crazier and more liberal, but I repeat myself, over the past half century.
Uh... Uh...
You're going to say no, but you're wrong.
I will say yes.
Okay, I thought you were going to have some like, well, it's not that simple, and then go into some... That is, my answer is it's not that simple, except in this case it sort of is.
The drugs themselves have driven women crazy, and the availability of the drugs, which spurred the sexual revolution, have been the driver of women's craziness over the last half century.
Which I don't think that's too cagey.
Did I get you right?
Yeah, you got it right.
Because I just don't, I actually am going, I don't think it's that simple, Ralph.
Because I also think that the craziness of men has increased at exactly the same rate, and they're not taking birth control pills for the most part.
But why have the men gone crazy?
Well, yeah, I mean, you could, I just think there are cultural factors.
It's also part of the moral decay of which birth control, I would argue, is a symptom But not the cause.
Do you think, though, if... So, 1965, the Supreme Court says married couples can use birth control, because in the Constitution, in Invisible Inc., we found the right, the special amendment where you get to use condoms.
Well, Thomas Jefferson, he always had that in mind.
He did.
And if you read his letters, in Invisible Inc., you see those too.
Then, in 1972, Eisenstadt v. Baird, they say, okay, actually, we discovered in the last seven years Non-married couples also can use birth control, somewhere in the Constitution.
If not for those two decisions, and the political opening up of birth control, would men and women have gone nearly as crazy?
Was it already baked in, or was that like the driver?
But then, are we saying that it was never legalized?
It was, well, in certain communities.
Or just not at that moment.
Just, yeah, basically there were never a national right to birth control.
Or, like, if birth control never existed, is that another way of... Well, certainly if birth control had never existed.
Sure, that's the most extreme version of it.
Yeah, I don't think it'd be as bad, but it's a matter of degrees.
Yeah.
So... Well, it would... What I mean is... What was the question?
I don't even know what we're talking about.
Yeah, we were talking about filet of fish, I think.
Yeah, the drugs explain why.
So if it said, like, one of the main drivers of women craziness, then I would say yes.
But explain why, because it's not like that's the whole story.
I don't think it's the whole story.
But it also, I don't want to just gloss, because we're having this more kind of legal and political conversation, but the drugs also make women go crazy.
Yeah.
I think, right?
Hormonally.
Yes.
This is not just me, what do I know?
I've never taken the pill.
Women I've spoken to who are on the pill for a long time, and now these girls go on it at 12 or something.
Yeah.
They will say, they themselves will say, yeah, I was nuts when I was on the pill.
Yeah.
And getting off the pill was hard.
Then you think condoms are gay, but now they, you know, how much gayer is going to be a birth control pill for men?
Which they're working on.
They are working on that.
Could you imagine?
There are men who, I don't want like.
A man with one of those like pill, you know, things he has to open up and take his I was reading about there are guys who are 20.
I can't imagine that.
Of course.
How could you?
It's subjective.
Not for me.
Not for me.
I'll say that.
But I at least can understand the line of modern reasoning that lead men to a certain age.
20?
Yeah.
What kind of a eunuch?
What is the world coming to?
What's it coming to?
I would rather have an AI babysit my kids than a liberal.
Grudgingly correct.
Yeah, I'm going to say no.
Also, it's a false choice because the AI... They're both liberal.
...are programmed, yeah, by liberals.
Yeah.
They're both liberal.
And at least the... Yeah, right.
The liberal, by virtue of being human, might have some unwitting tethering to reality.
It might have, like, some semblance of a soul left.
Yes.
The AI is just demons.
If it has a soul, it's a demon soul.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.
The flood story from the Bible is a historical event, the truth of which is suppressed by the scientific community.
Correct.
Uh, you got it wrong, I would say, yeah.
You would say, okay, good.
Alright.
I don't know, I was being cautious there on the, I don't know if the literal... You think I'm full, like... I don't know if you were Big Lib on, you know, exegesis.
You think I'm like Episcopal... Yeah, no, I... ...going to a church with a rainbow flag.
You go to the priestess and you say, hello, Bishop Riss, please give me a blessing.
Um, well, this is one where, like, the...
On top of scripture, the scientific evidence is pretty strong, and we know that historically, every ancient civilization has a flood story, and many of them are quite similar, which is often used as a means to discredit the biblical story, but I've never quite understood that.
To me, it's like, okay, if all of these ancient civilizations agreed, Not only on, like, that there was a flood, but also that oftentimes that some small group of people were saved from the flood.
And how is that supposed to discredit me?
That just lends more credibility to this idea.
Also, the fact that we keep being told by the modern libs, there have been these major climactic events throughout all of the ages, and the nature of the continents has changed, and global mean temperature has changed, and there are these ice ages, and this, that, and the other thing.
Asteroids hit the Earth.
It's so crazy to think there was a big flood.
Yeah.
There's good scientific evidence for Sodom and Gomorrah being destroyed by fire and brimstone.
You're telling me there couldn't have been a big flood?
Do you think it necessarily had to be a flood that covered the entire globe, literally?
It would have had to cover Civilization, certainly.
I don't think that Mount Everest was underwater.
Yeah, I suppose I'm agnostic on that.
It wouldn't bother me if Mount Everest were not covered.
But certainly, like when you mentioned the other civilizational stories of the floods, I got Gilgamesh-pilled some years ago, when I realized that that story has a lot of similarities to the Bible.
To me, I thought, oh, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, of course.
And even more distant civilizations have the same story.
And even, and, you know, those are civilizations that are all kind of close to each other, but you go over to the New World, you know, and you find flood stories there too, which is very interesting.
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
Calling fans sweet babies is more uncomfortable than a podcaster calling fans creamy cream puffs.
I agree.
The cream puffs thing is weirder.
more uncomfortable.
So you, I know you're wrong about this.
So this is one that you're wrong. - Throw a point up on the board.
Thank you very much.
I agree, look.
I-- - You agree? - I agree.
It's, the cream puffs thing is weirder.
I held off on this thing because the Sweet Baby Gang came into existence in a very organic way.
It did.
Because you mentioned some talk show host who, you played a clip, and then they, it was the people who... You don't know the origin.
I don't, okay, so what happened?
No, we don't talk about it.
But that's not it.
It's Monique, but we don't talk about it.
Monique.
I almost said Moesha.
Yeah, no.
No, it's Monique.
Monique started the Sweet Baby Gang, but we don't have that conversation.
We don't talk about it.
It's the first rule.
Of the SPG?
Yeah.
She's the godmother.
She doesn't even know it.
Could you imagine her joy?
Yeah.
On learning that?
I think she would be.
So then people wrote in.
After the SPG sprang to life, they said, Michael, you need a, you need a gang.
I said, no, guys, it's like a guy in high school giving himself a nickname.
You can't, you can't, you can't do it.
And they threw out all these, I'm not even going to say the ideas because I don't want to embarrass anyone who suggested them, but they were all so Profoundly cringe.
And I said, no, guys, please, no.
You can't do such a thing.
But then something did happen, at least somewhat organically, in a French organic way, like a creme fraiche almost.
I mentioned, I said, okay, Jeremy's making us all do member block now.
So the member block is not for the hoi polloi.
It's not for everybody.
It's for the creme de la creme.
It's for the absolute tippy top, you know, get to go to the member block.
And I guess I said this enough.
That there was this very pretentious idea that came about.
Like a little cream puff.
Which I thought, guys, they're already saying my intro is gay.
And now you're calling me a cream puff.
And that's not... So I've not... I've embraced it to a degree.
It's funny.
It's my favorite dessert.
It's a profiterole.
I love a nice cream puff.
As much as I like a nice loaf.
They're disgusting.
What?
Cream puffs?
Am I thinking of the right thing?
Yeah, like a nice juicy little flaky pastry with a nice little cream on the inside.
It's like a glorified jelly donut.
Yeah, like a French and pretentious jelly donut.
With no jelly, it's just cream.
It's like a Bavarian donut.
So it's a jelly donut, except gayer, is what you're saying.
It's so gay.
And so I was like, guys, I know I told you don't do a contrived thing, but if the organic thing is going to double down on the gay thing, then I don't, this is kind of a net, this might be a net negative for me.
You should have gone with, like, the Crusaders or something.
But that's contrived.
Then it'd be like me being like, hey, my team is going to be called the really cool, handsome guys.
Like, yeah, it's not going to happen.
Yeah, you gotta let it happen.
And then sometimes it happens, and you wonder about it.
Similar to the 2020 election, Matt Walsh's Mortal Kombat showdown was completely rigged with another gamer playing for Matt.
What?
Are you even aware?
No, I mean, I saw.
You're obviously a very talented video gamer.
Okay, so you're ready to answer?
Oh, darn.
Yeah, I don't even understand.
Look, I obviously, I probably can't say this on a certain social media platform, obviously understand the 2020 election was completely stolen by Joe Biden and the Democrats and the globalists.
But the game was so clear.
Yeah, I don't know.
Look, I don't personally understand it.
But I guess I'm just a natural gamer at heart.
Yeah, what were your favorite, growing up, what were your favorite games?
We never got... So you're younger than me, right?
So what... I was like the N64 generation.
Wait, my first games were like Super Nintendo, like Donkey Kong.
Yeah, no, I never had, I'm saying, N64 came out I think when I was like in fifth grade or something.
And then PlayStation, but I only ever had Super Nintendo.
Oh, oh, got it, okay.
So I was begging my parents for a video game system, and they wouldn't get it, and then finally N64 came out right before Christmas of whatever, fifth grade, and they said they were going to get me the video game system, and then I opened it up, and it was Super Nintendo.
So they got me the one.
I got the one that was right behind And then I went to school after Christmas break, and everyone's talking about they got N64.
And they said, oh, did you get it?
And I lied.
And I said, in the moment, I just felt like I had to fit in as one of those moments.
And then I had to live in the lie for the whole rest of the year that I'd had N64.
And they were all talking about Super Smash Brothers, and you were like, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I had no idea what games they were talking about, and I just, I was living this total lie.
I was very traumatized.
But you were playing Donkey Kong Country.
Right.
Which is maybe the best video game ever.
It's great, and I enjoyed playing it.
The Minecraft level was, it's one of the great levels ever of the game.
Which maybe, maybe this explains my hatred for video games, like the trauma that I suffered as a child.
And your conservatism.
You were behind, you were one generation behind.
The traditionals.
Yeah.
The grace tradition.
Wow.
Did I win?
No.
Did we have a score?
They say we think you won by one.
Me, that I won.
What?
We think you won by one?
Yeah, that's great.
I like that.
That's some nice Philadelphia 2020 scoring.
They got some pipes bursting in the back over here.
Mr. Walsh, thank you.
Cheers.
We actually drank a fair bit on this.
Usually I have like a sip or two.
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