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April 21, 2021 - The Michael Knowles Show
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Ep. 747 - The Unjust Verdict

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I never thought I would agree with AOC.
I never thought, I really never thought I would agree with AOC on something like the George Floyd case, the trial of Derek Chauvin for the, not, not just the killing of George Floyd, the murder of George Floyd.
And yet AOC and I agree on a very narrow point.
We agree that the verdict that the jury reached was unjust.
So no, it's, This verdict is not justice.
Frankly, I don't even think we call it full accountability because there are multiple officers that were there.
It wasn't just Derek Chauvin.
And I also don't want this moment to be framed as this system working.
Because it's not working.
And that's what creates a lot of complexity in this moment.
That's what creates a lot of complexity.
What's the complexity?
The verdict is just or it's unjust.
I think it's unjust.
AOC seems to think it's unjust.
So good, we'll get rid of it on appeal, right?
I don't think that's exactly what she's saying.
On this narrow point, though, AOC is right for all the wrong reasons.
I'm Michael Knowles.
It's the Michael Knowles Show.
Welcome back to the show.
My favorite comment yesterday from Top10guy1, who says the judge looked at the latest CNN ratings and naturally assumed that nobody on the jury has been watching the news.
That's a very good point, actually.
That's an astute observation.
The judge famously in this case said...
Look, what Maxine Waters said, maybe that should cause this to result in a mistrial.
The threats that people are seeing from not just the radicals on the left, not just the street people, but even from the elected officials.
The pressure from Joe Biden.
But what the judge said was, I trust that the jury is following instructions and not listening to the news.
Well, you're right.
CNN ratings are the only evidence for that claim.
But I think...
The overwhelming evidence is, of course, the jury knew what this trial meant.
BLM burned the country down last year over this.
So even if they weren't reading the New York Times every day during the trial, they knew exactly what was going on.
You heard AOC mention this distinction between justice and accountability.
And you're going to hear the left make this distinction a lot over the next few days.
It's kind of like this distinction that they're making between equality and equity.
And on the one hand, these distinctions are meaningless.
They're distinctions without a difference.
That there is some worthwhile distinction here between accountability and justice.
Usually what the left does when they coin new terms like this or when they put a lot of emphasis on one term over another is they say, look, obviously this isn't justice.
This was mob rule here.
The total overwhelming of the judicial system.
The guy was convicted in the media, not in a court of law.
However...
We need to still say that it's sort of like justice, so we're just going to make a new term.
Equality, well, we're going to make a new term, equity.
And we like equity and we hate equality.
Well, here, what's the difference between accountability and justice?
I think the subtle difference here is that justice refers to an eternal objective concept.
Justice refers to the moral law, which is eternally true, whatever we all think here on earth, even if we act very unjustly, like the sort of injustice we saw yesterday in the Derek Chauvin trial.
Accountability is a little different.
Accountability is like responsiveness to people.
So when you're talking about there's no accountability, I think it very subtly plays into this radical subjectivism that you're seeing from the left, and especially from people like AOC on the left.
Which is that, look, there are no eternal standards.
We're going to remake the whole system.
We're going to upend the entire moral order.
We're going to flip society inside out.
And the only standard that will matter is what we think.
We, the people who make the standards.
You will not have to worry about justice and accountability to God.
You'll just worry about accountability, meaning responsiveness, to me, to us.
We, the radical leftists, who are going to remake the world by redefining all the terms.
It's a subtle distinction, but I do think that's what is at play here.
That the left is ultimately interested.
This is why they don't want to say that justice was served here.
In the case of Derek Chauvin, it's because what they're ultimately interested in is not reforming the police system or reforming the justice system a little bit.
That is completely disingenuous when they say that.
They want to undo the whole thing.
They're saying the entire country is rotten to the core and it won't be set right until they are in power and they get to remake everything.
And even then, it's going to be a perpetual revolution.
This is what the left always does.
It's why Fidel Castro was wearing his military fatigues until he was 92 years old.
Because the revolution is still going on.
It doesn't matter that Castro held power for 60 years.
No, there's still more work to do.
Viva siempre la revolución.
That, I think, is what is at play here.
It's why it's so important to pay very close attention to these little words.
When you accept the left's new language, you accept whole premises here.
This is very much the subject of my book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order.
Who knows how much longer it will be available for pre-order.
So the jury comes out and in a deeply unjust decision, reads their verdict, Derek Chauvin, guilty as charged.
Members of the jury, I will now read the verdicts as they will appear in the permanent records of the 4th Judicial District.
State of Minnesota, County of Hennepin.
District Court, 4th Judicial District.
State of Minnesota Plaintiff vs.
Derek Michael Chauvin, Defendant.
Verdict count 1.
Court file number 27, CR20-12646.
We the jury in the above entitled matter as to count one unintentional second-degree murder while committing a felony find the defendant guilty.
This verdict agreed to this 20th day of April 2021 at 1.44 p.m.
Signed, juror foreperson, juror number 19.
Same caption, verdict count two.
We the jury in the above entitled matter as to count two, third degree murder perpetrating an eminently dangerous act, find the defendant guilty.
This verdict agreed to this 20th day of April 2021 at 1.45 p.m.
Signed by jury foreperson juror number 19.
Same caption, verdict count three.
We the jury in the above entitled matter as to count three, second degree manslaughter, culpable negligence, creating an unreasonable risk.
Find the defendant guilty.
This verdict agreed to this 20th day of April 2021 at 1.45 p.m.
Jury 4 person 019.
There it is.
Derek Chauvin staying basically perfectly stoic as this is being read out.
They're accusing him, or convicting him, I suppose, not just of negligence, not just of manslaughter, but of murder.
The intentional killing of George Floyd.
What was the evidence for that?
Here's the evidence that I think impelled the jury to reach this guilty verdict on all counts.
Maxine Waters says there's gonna be riots.
I think that was very important evidence.
The President of the United States, but so many other people.
Kamala Harris bailing the George Floyd rioters out of jail last year.
BLM torching the whole country.
Threats to the livelihoods and lives of the jurors' families and to themselves.
I'm not even saying explicit threats.
I'm saying the implicit threat of a mobster who walks in and says, gosh, nice place you got here.
Sure would be a shame if something happened to it.
And that threat had credibility because BLM got away with burning the country down last year along with Antifa.
I think that's the evidence that led to the guilty verdict.
Because the evidence presented in court weakened the prosecution's case.
The evidence presented in court, remember the whole argument that the media made about George Floyd's death is that Derek Chauvin intentionally put the knee on the neck and blocked his airway and that's why he died and there was nothing else.
Then we find out later on, actually he had three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl in his system.
Actually, Derek Chauvin didn't pull him out of that car and drag him to the ground to murder him.
George Floyd asked to be taken out of the car.
Actually, the claim of George Floyd when he said, I can't breathe, he was saying that before Chauvin basically even had his hands on him.
More and more and more and more and more evidence.
Even the neck thing.
Later on, the prosecution changed its case.
The argument initially was Chauvin had the knee on George Floyd's neck.
Then it became he had the knee on his neck area.
What's the neck area?
Oh, I don't know, your back, your shoulders.
It didn't even have the neckline right.
So if we're just looking at new evidence presented in court, At the very most, this guy would have gotten manslaughter.
Maybe he would have gotten off completely.
But that wasn't the evidence here.
That's why it's an unjust verdict.
Even regardless of whether or not Derek Chauvin...
It's an unjust verdict because the whole system was upended.
We heard the judge say this yesterday, except this cowardly judge didn't want to actually follow his argument to its logical conclusion when he said, yeah, Maxine Waters coming out and threatening everybody and inciting riots if they don't get the verdict that they want.
That might result in the declaration of a mistrial on appeal.
That might create problems on appeal.
But here, right now, I don't want to do that.
I'm not going to do that.
That is deeply unjust.
That is, as AOC would say, though for all the different reasons, one of the arguments that the justice system is not working.
Moreover, though, I feel bad for Derek Chauvin.
I do.
You're not allowed to say that, but I do.
I feel bad for Derek Chauvin because this isn't about him.
None of this trial is about him.
None of the trial is about what happened between him and George Floyd.
None of the facts matter to the verdict in that trial.
Here's what matters.
St.
George, St.
George Floyd died as a martyr He was persecuted for his skin color by a racist, bigoted, probably member of the Ku Klux Klan named Derek Chauvin.
And he was murdered and Chauvin planned this out, you know, and he just couldn't wait to murder him because he hates black people.
And then finally, the people woke up, people of all good faith in America.
They woke up in a creed to cur and they demanded justice and they peacefully protested.
There was a little fire.
There's some buildup, but it was mostly fiery, but mostly peaceful protests.
And now we have defeated this perfect ultimate evil in Derek Chauvin.
Of course, the evil of racism remains, but this is a great victory.
Derek Chauvin is going to go to prison right now because of that narrative.
Whether or not Derek Chauvin did anything wrong, I'm really not coming in one way or the other on whether or not he did anything wrong here on even on the manslaughter charge.
I'm just saying that's completely separate from why Derek Chauvin is going to prison.
This is what's going on in this country right now.
The justice system is disconnected from a sense of justice.
It's not for the reason AOC says, though.
AOC, I don't think, has any real sense of justice whatsoever.
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When AOC says the justice system is not working, this isn't justice.
What does she mean?
Let me ask you something.
What is justice?
We're now told justice is rehabilitation, right?
What's the point of the justice system to rehabilitate people?
I don't know.
We could all use a little rehabilitation, couldn't we?
We all have some bad traits.
So why aren't we all in the justice system?
Well, okay, it's not primarily about rehabilitation, but it's about deterrence.
It's good to deter crimes.
Yes, I agree.
But if you wanted to deter a crime, you could just make an example of someone who, whether or not he committed the crime or not, right?
This is what happens in very authoritarian governments.
It's not that.
Oh, right.
Retribution.
That is what the primary purpose of the justice system is.
If you commit a crime, you get punished for that crime.
Not primarily out of rehabilitation or primarily out of deterrence, but because you committed the crime.
And justice demands it.
But we don't believe in justice anymore.
Even people on the right don't believe in justice.
They have a better conception of it than people on the left do.
But really what this is about is interest groups.
Really what this is about is social engineering.
The left is saying, regardless of the facts of the trial, don't pay attention to the facts of the trial.
We need Chauvin to go to prison because that will create a better society.
Because that will fight the scourge of racism.
Yeah, it's not about what Chauvin...
Forget about George Floyd's career of crime.
Forget about George Floyd.
Yeah, he robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint.
That's beside the point.
Yeah, he was committing a crime at the very moment he was killed.
Or just moments prior.
Which was what prompted his arrest.
Sure.
But that's not what this is about.
This is about our leftist vision of society.
You gotta feel bad for Chauvin there.
What this means for cops.
The guy was doing his job.
What did Derek Chauvin do that day?
He showed up with some other cops and tried to arrest a criminal who was committing a crime.
It's not even like he went up and he said, you know, George, not so long ago you robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint.
So we're going to arrest you now.
No, that actually would have been unjust, right?
Because these were different situations.
But Floyd was passing counterfeit bills and taking a bunch of illegal drugs.
And so Chauvin does his job, tries to arrest the guy.
Resists arrest.
Asks to be taken out.
Maybe Chauvin made some mistakes.
Maybe he did.
Maybe he didn't.
I don't know.
A just trial would have tried to suss that out.
But regardless, because basically because Derek Chauvin took on a risky job, he is now going to go to prison for murder.
But who cares what the witnesses say?
Who cares what the expert witnesses say in the trial?
Who cares what the lawyers are saying?
This is a political matter and so we have to turn to the President of the United States, Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden both spoke about this last night.
Kamala spoke first because, you know, the President has to speak first.
So Kamala comes out there and she says...
That this is about George Floyd's legacy and we are all part of that legacy.
We are all a part of George Floyd's legacy.
And our job now is to honor it and to honor him.
Thank you.
We are not part of George Floyd's legacy.
I am not part of George Floyd's legacy.
We should not honor George Floyd.
George Floyd did not live an honorable life.
He led a very dishonorable life.
It's not even that he led a dishonorable life and then he reformed, which plenty of people do.
I think we all kind of do that.
He was committing crimes in his very last moments.
Why would we honor that?
Why would we want to be part of that legacy?
I'm not saying if he really were murdered.
I don't think he was murdered.
I don't think there's any evidence that he was murdered.
I don't think there's any evidence that his killing or his death was racially motivated either.
But let's say, let's say that all of that is true and it was, you know, terribly unjust event and certainly it's tragic.
Death of any man is tragic.
Is that the legacy?
Why is that?
What is his legacy?
George Floyd's legacy is the stuff he did in his life.
He didn't have the sort of life that you want to write wonderful autobiographies about.
What Kamala is really saying here is not that we are part of George Floyd's legacy.
She's saying we are George Floyd's legacy.
That, ironically, what she's saying is, George Floyd's life didn't matter.
Isn't that ironic?
Because the whole line is, black lives matter.
But the point here is no.
George Floyd's life did not matter.
The things that he actually did, right up until the very last moments of his life, they don't matter.
All that matters when we think of George Floyd, we should not think of George Floyd.
We should think of Kamala Harris.
We should think of leftist politicians.
Who exploited this guy's death to radically re-engineer some aspects of policy and to destroy credibility in the justice system.
That's the point.
Joe Biden...
I think Joe Biden's also in the White House, isn't he?
I know Kamala's running the show over there, but Joe, he's still sort of daughters around the hallways, I think.
He'll go have lunch, then he'll go back and watch his episodes in the afternoon.
Joe Biden had already spoken out.
Joe Biden, before the verdict came down, he, the President of the United States, pressured The justice system, the judiciary, to give him the verdict that he wanted.
He said that he was praying for the right verdict.
They're a good family, and they're calling for peace and tranquility, no matter what that verdict is.
I'm praying the verdict is the right verdict, which is, I think it's overwhelming in my view.
I wouldn't say that unless the jury was sequestered now and not hear me say that.
But so we just talked a little.
I want to know how they were doing, just personally, and we talked about personal things.
Look, I wouldn't say that, you know, but hey, the jury's sequestered.
I'm sure they're not getting any information about this.
So one of the issues in this trial, of course, is that the jury hadn't been totally sequestered the whole time.
And obviously, it doesn't even matter if they were.
This is the biggest story in the world.
The left took a local crime story of criminal gets arrested.
There's a question of was there excessive force used.
That's the whole story.
This story happens lots of times every single day.
But the left thought this is going to be useful to push a racial narrative.
So we're going to make this not just a national but an international news story.
So there's no way to keep the jury from being affected by that.
And what does Joe Biden do?
The mostly peaceful fire that BLM lit around the country, he went I'm sure.
Come on, man.
I'm sure that the jury is not going to be affected by my statements or Maxine Waters' statements or any of the other statements that have been made for a year.
Give me a break.
Come on, man.
That's a bunch of malarkey.
So Joe Biden had already set the stage for this.
Then he comes on after Kamala Harris spoke.
And he, gosh, Joe Biden, he couldn't have been happier with the way the jury ruled.
It was a murder in the full light of day, and it ripped the blinders off for the whole world to see.
The systemic racism the Vice President just referred to.
The systemic racism is a stain on our nation's soul.
The knee on the neck of justice for black Americans.
Profound fear and trauma The pain, the exhaustion that black and brown Americans experience every single day.
The murder of George Floyd launched a summer of protests we hadn't seen since the civil rights era in the 60s.
Protests that unified people of every race and generation in peace and with purpose to say enough, enough, enough of the senseless killings Today, today's verdict is a step forward.
Is anything there that he said true?
Is any single word that he said true?
The peaceful protests, the unity, the step forward?
What's the step forward?
It was an exercise in the power of the left-wing establishment.
And so he got his will.
In that the justice system was overrun by his political interest group, the left, that's true.
So I guess in a way it's a step forward for him, certainly a step backward, forward and backward.
It's definitely a step in the wrong direction for the United States.
And what it led to, I think, I don't think this was an act of the legal system.
I think this was a fundamentally, this verdict was a fundamentally religious act.
And it involved a lot of religious premises.
And it's going to have cultural and political ramifications for years and decades to come.
Ben will be talking about the verdict on his show.
His title, The Jury Got It Wrong.
Pretty simple.
You know, Ben and I don't always agree on everything, but I think we're pretty much in agreement on this.
And so Ben will be giving much more of a legal perspective here.
I'll be giving the religious perspective.
He'll be giving the legal perspective here.
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I don't think that what happened yesterday at the Derek Chauvin trial was primarily a legal event.
I don't think the reading of the verdict was a legal event.
I don't think it was based on a proper reading of the law.
I don't think it was based on the evidence presented in the court.
Our system of justice that we thought we had in this country, I think it was primarily a religious event.
I think it was the canonization of St.
George Floyd, and I think this was about a religious ecstasy to triumph over the evil that had become incarnate in the person of Derek Chauvin.
The language that people are using to talk about this trial, they're saying George Floyd sacrificed his life to justice.
He did not.
He was involved in injustice for his whole life.
He was a criminal.
Look, I actually don't think you should really speak ill of the dead.
So I'm not saying George Floyd's the worst person in the world.
I'm not saying he never had a good impulse.
I'm not saying he never even tried to pursue that impulse.
But he obviously ultimately failed to do it.
This is a warning call for a lot of us.
There are a lot of people who do a lot of bad things who...
I think are waiting for a sudden conversion before death.
Well, guess what?
Death can meet us when we least expect it, so you should be trying to do the right thing.
You should be trying to get your life and your soul in order before then.
Regardless of if George Floyd had any intentions to turn his life around, he didn't do it.
His life was...
An exercise in injustice.
And yet now we're being told he sacrificed his life to justice.
Why?
Because the facts of his life don't matter.
All that matters about George Floyd, according to the left, is his skin color.
And there is a system of white supremacy in this country.
And as LeBron James says, black people can't walk out of their homes without being hunted down by racist whites.
That's the narrative.
Totally divorced from reality, but that is the religious myth that we are being told by the left.
And as a result of this, we need to pursue an inversion of the virtues.
In Christianity, you have the incarnation of absolute good.
Christ himself, right?
Christ is the good.
He is God.
He is the second person of the Trinity.
He is incarnate into the world.
He dies to redeem mankind.
In the leftist religion, you don't have the incarnation of absolute good.
You have the incarnation of absolute evil.
And this is according to identity groups.
So you have the physical representation of absolute evil, which is now, you hear this in, I guess, white supremacy, the patriarchy, right?
It's the straight white man who thinks he's a man, so he's cisgendered, right?
This And it's always becoming more narrow into this absolute distillation of evil.
That is the representation of everything that is wrong in the world.
And so regardless of the facts of this trial, if it can be said to partake of those issues, then you've got to try to defeat evil and you'll canonize criminals even if their death is politically useful for this purpose.
That's what's going on.
This is a substitute religion.
We still have a liturgical calendar in this country.
We have a liturgical calendar.
We have whole months dedicated to leftist views of history.
Black History Month.
Women's History Month.
Pride Month.
It's not even primarily about black people or women or homosexuals even.
It's about this very particular leftist view of history, which involves then a liturgical practice.
The new liturgy of this religion is the mostly peaceful protest.
That is the religious expression.
It is the state church.
It's why during 2020, the BLM riots were protected by the public health officials who are our high priests.
They said, you get to go out, you get to riot, you get to protest the George Floyd thing because, and they made up some cockamamie excuse of how that actually is good for public health amid a pandemic to go out and rally by the thousands.
But if you go to church, if you go to actual church, that is a violation.
You will be shut down.
The church will be fined.
Not allowed to do that.
It's because we have a state religion in this country.
That is secular progressivism.
And by the way, I get it.
Nan is a naturally religious being.
We have religious longings.
The leftists who go out in ecstasy to jump and dance around and rob the Nike store at their worst, they are engaging in a sort of community.
They're engaging in a sort of liturgy.
They're engaging in a perverse inversion of sacraments.
They are celebrating their perverse understanding of virtue, which takes pride, the queen of all vices, to become the highest virtue of all.
It's not even just gay pride.
It's all sorts of pride.
It's fat pride, skinny pride, all kinds of pride.
It inverts all of them.
It makes wrath, which is a deadly sin, makes that into a virtue.
It takes humility, which is a virtue.
It inverts that.
It says, nope, no humility.
That's awful.
Patience?
No, we have to be impatient.
Chastity?
No, we have to be licentious and promiscuous.
It just inverts all of it.
Well, okay, we're going to have a religion.
Everybody's got to serve somebody, to quote Bob Dylan, so that is what is going on here.
But I've got a question that I think so many people are not aware of the religious character of these rituals.
Okay, fine.
And maybe we're not going to reach them by asking these very heady sorts of questions and rather pointing out all these very kind of Esoteric observations about the way that the BLM people are rioting and the way that we're talking about George Floyd and justice.
Okay, maybe you can ask simple questions, though, to get to the heart of this.
Why is racism wrong?
First, what is racism?
Racial hatred, I guess you would call it.
Is that simple enough explanation or definition?
Why is racism wrong?
I can say why racism is wrong.
Because it's an affront against human dignity, because man is made in the image of God.
Simple.
That's it.
That's why it's wrong.
I don't think about it too much, but you know, that's why.
If you were to ask me why it's wrong, that's what I would tell you.
Now let me ask you, atheist, leftist, why is racism wrong?
If you're on the left, especially if you're an atheist, a materialist, there's no such thing as human dignity.
There's no such thing as being made in the image of God.
You don't believe in God.
Life is just a sort of random accident, isn't it?
And we're all just somewhere on the evolutionary scale, moving toward whatever the logic of random mutation wants us to move toward.
There's no rhyme or reason.
This is all just a big cosmic joke.
So if that's true, if there is no divine logic to the universe...
And racism's not wrong.
And they can't explain.
And that's why they are racist, by the way, right?
I mean, that's why now the only systemic racism that exists in the country, legal racism, is against white people and Asian people in the form of affirmative action, which disadvantages whites and Asians on the basis of their race and gives advantage to black and Hispanic people on the basis of their race.
This is why the left feels no problem coming out.
The only overt racism that is permissible in the country right now is against white people.
But they'll say that's not racism and they can't quite explain what that is because they can't explain what racism is and even if they could, they couldn't explain why they're against it.
Okay, first part.
Second part, why is murder wrong?
Why is murder wrong?
Let's say Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd.
I don't think he did, but let's say he did.
Why is that wrong?
If there's no God, if there's no image of God, if there is no human dignity, if there is no soul, if we're all just kind of meat puppets and it's all just a joke and our consciousness is just a delusion, why is murder wrong?
We're just meat puppets.
It doesn't matter.
There's no real substantive difference.
There's no difference in dignity and moral worth between me and my Tumblr.
So who cares?
I've never understood this with the radical left that denies the whole moral order when They harp on the alleged epidemic of campus rape, which is based on ridiculous statistics that I knock down in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order.
Who knows for how long that will be the case.
But they will say, you know, there's a sexual assault epidemic right now.
Harvard is actually more dangerous for women than downtown Baghdad or something.
And therefore, we've got to take this very, very seriously.
If sex doesn't matter, if sex is just, you know, we can all just engage in the hookup culture and we're all just meat puppets and if it feels good, do it.
And look, it's nothing.
It's nothing.
It's just sex.
Who cares?
Come on.
Stop making such a big deal, you prudes.
If sex doesn't matter, then why is sexual assault any worse than slapping someone in the face?
Why?
If sex doesn't matter in some metaphysical way, Then why is sexual assault?
The act is just the same as any other kind of sex.
And if sex doesn't move the needle, really, then even if you call it an assault, it's no different than me punching my buddy in the shoulder, right?
Now, we all know that isn't true.
But why?
Why is murder wrong?
And then the final question, the big question that we should all be asking ourselves right now, but the left can't do it.
What is justice?
What is justice?
There is an answer to this question.
Justice is giving to each what it deserves, putting things in their proper place, acknowledging the objective moral order, and then aligning ourselves to that.
But if you don't believe in that, if you don't think there is an objective moral order, if you don't think there is an objective moral arbiter, If you don't believe in any of that stuff, then there is no justice.
And there will be no peace.
And they're right.
I mean, their premises are totally off.
But according to their premises, that's what's going to happen.
If this is all just about we human beings, in our pride, trying to be as gods, the first lie in the Garden of Eden, That created the radical leftist ideology, this according to Whitaker Chambers, who wrote that excellent book Witness, ex-communist, who was one of the people who was influential in making Ronald Reagan turn from liberalism to conservatism.
This idea, we shall be as gods, we shall totally refashion society, and we'll make up our system of justice.
We'll just make it up.
The traditional conservative view is that our justice system is supposed to reflect the objective order of justice.
The modern liberal view is we'll just make it up, whatever we want.
That's going to be the justice system because that's what we want.
Because all that ultimately matters in politics is our will, our willfulness.
And when we're talking about the left, we're not talking about the higher will, the rational will.
I don't know.
Well, it isn't that because they don't, they don't believe that that sort of thing exists.
So it's just that lower base appetite.
Is that justice?
I don't think so.
Speaking of lower base desires, give you a great example of this in an unjust society.
There's a video just put up by Angela Stanton King, who is a right-wing activist.
This was apparently the South Beach area LGBT club called Palace.
The Blaze reported on this video where it's at this drag bar and they bring little kids up on stage and have them pick up the dollar bills that are being thrown at them during this performance.
Take a listen.
Now, I'm sitting here trying to figure out why an But it's 11.40 at night.
These people have children in a drag show in LA on a beach.
Look at this.
USA! USA! Telling her, get her money.
Look at this bull.
Look at this bull now.
Look.
Look.
They giving them money, y'all.
Little girls now.
Look at this .
Look at this.
And throwing money at these little girls.
Got them picking up money off the floor like they strippers and now.
So, we obviously blurred out the image.
We don't want these little girls' faces to be out there.
And we had to bleep out the woman's commentary.
But I actually wish we didn't have to bleep out the woman's commentary.
Because although I prefer not to use coarse language in public, I prefer not to go blue, I think this woman is saying exactly what we're all thinking.
I think this woman, if anything, she was being restrained.
Could you imagine if you, well, I guess you wouldn't be there, right?
You wouldn't be at some drag bar in South Beach that would have kids dancing on the stage.
But if you were and you saw that, what must you think?
This is such a deeply unjust society that would permit this sort of thing.
And yet, according to the logic of the left, that the left is pushing, especially on this gender issue, what's wrong with that?
Well, it's fun.
It's nice.
It's open.
It's tolerant.
It's liberating.
That these little, little itty bitty girls are being treated, or I don't know if they're girls or they're boys who dress like girls.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I didn't pay close enough attention to the video and you shouldn't either.
Let's just call them girls.
What's wrong with them being treated like strippers and picking up the, stripping is empowering.
What's being, what's wrong with them having dollar bills thrown at them?
Like they're, like they're just meat puppets, you know, like they're just flesh.
We're just flesh.
That's all we all are, right?
What's wrong with them being sexualized?
We're told that little children, three-year-old kids, ought to be able to make the decision to castrate themselves and to mutilate their bodies because they know their true sexual essence.
They have a deep sexual nature.
They are sexualized from the very beginning.
And they possess the ability to consent to these sorts of things.
Right?
So we got to get rid of age of consent laws.
We have to.
If you say that a little kid can make the informed decision to mutilate himself and to cut off his genitals, certainly that little kid can make the informed decision to dance around for dollars.
That's a far less outrageous sexual sort of decision.
Surely that little kid can consent to sexual behavior if you're granting the premise that the kid can castrate himself.
Where is the...
There doesn't need to be a coherence.
There doesn't need to be a logic here because the left is ultimately denying that in favor of willfulness and interest.
If I want it, it is good.
That is ultimately what this is coming down to.
Injustice never enters the equation.
We are not going to get More peace.
The verdict that we got here is not going to result in peace in this country.
To quote the libs, no justice, no peace.
That's not even just a threat.
It's often a threat when they make it.
They're saying, if you don't give me what I want, I'm going to burn down the country.
But it's also just an observation.
If you don't have justice, you won't have peace.
I'll take this in a very, very...
A small example here.
Last night, some lady, I don't know, I assume a lady, maybe that's an unjust description.
Someone tweets at me from an anonymous Twitter account and says, I just listened to your show for about three minutes.
I have to say you're one of the most disgusting people I've ever heard speak.
Okay.
I don't mention this because this is the first mean tweet I've ever gotten.
You know, I get a lot of those.
Everybody does on Twitter.
I bring it up because I want to know what mania impels somebody to speak this way to a perfect stranger?
What mania impels you to do that?
And I thought this tweet was just perfect because they say, I listen to you for three minutes.
You're one of the most disgusting people I've ever heard.
I know very little about you.
I know basically nothing about you, but I hate you.
It's basically what this person is saying.
There are two things that could impel someone to do that.
One is just trolling, and people do that on Twitter, right?
They just tweet, regardless of what they believe, they just tweet to try to get a reaction out of you, because it's funny, because it can be funny.
The other thing is ideology, where you believe that really there is this embodiment of pure evil, and it's the straight, white, conservative man.
He's the most evil person in the world, and so therefore you've got to silence him, ostracize him, censor him, or worse, physically threaten him, as is often the case.
If you're Maxine Waters, for instance, you physically, you encourage riots.
Okay.
Either way, if it's ideology or if it's trolling, actually even more so if it's trolling, just a word of caution to people when we think about justice is You are imperiling your soul if you do this sort of thing.
I think there is an idea that what we do in politics, what we do on TV, what we do in the newspapers, or especially what we do on the internet, doesn't matter.
It's just pretend.
The internet isn't real.
It's just make-believe.
It is real.
It is.
Because you really are doing it.
The things you look at on the internet, the things you say to other people on the internet, the ways you behave when you think that nobody is looking, Actually do matter because regardless of what the left wants us to believe about the nature of justice, there really is an objective moral order.
There actually is justice and we will be accountable someday for the things that we do.
And we want to pretend in our liberal decadent culture that we can just sort of push a pause.
That we can just sort of suspend the rules and kind of do whatever we want because that's my individual autonomy.
That's what I will and my willfulness is all that's said to matter.
But that's not the case.
There actually is an objective moral order.
And when you turn away from that and when you do evil things and when you spend your life involved in injustice and crime, things don't turn out well.
In the here or in the hereafter.
You think the anger's over?
No justice, no peace.
BLM protesters in New York ran up to some people, I guess mostly white people who were at a restaurant, screaming to the white people, get out of New York.
Get out of New York!
We don't want you here!
We don't want you here!
We don't want your money!
We don't want your money!
We don't want your taqueria.
Owned by white men.
Oh my.
30%. Tip 30%. Tip 30%.
So this guy seems a little bit confused, doesn't he?
Because he's saying There are a lot of problems with what he's saying.
The first is, you white man, you white devils, we don't want your taquerias.
I said, wait, hold on a second.
Last I checked, taquerias are usually not associated with, like, England, right?
You know, they're not, they're kind of a more, they're different.
Isn't that more of a Latino kind of thing?
Are Latinos white?
I don't, I didn't think that.
I thought they were people of color, but I guess for the purposes of this guy screaming at people dining in the street, then they're white people.
Obviously, this guy Should be arrested.
This guy who is disturbing the peace, who is making a big nuisance of himself, should not be permitted to do these sorts of things in society.
A just society would take care of someone like that.
I'm not saying even put him in prison necessarily.
He should be in an institution somewhere, as well as the maniacs following him.
Then to say, we don't, we, we, who is the we?
Is that black people?
I don't know.
We don't want you white people here in New York.
White people have been in New York for a long time.
York, I think that name comes from a place in England, doesn't it?
Before New York was New York, it was New Amsterdam.
Amsterdam, there are a lot of white people in Amsterdam too, just as there were in New Amsterdam.
What is the argument here?
I guess his argument is that white people shouldn't...
It's not legitimate for them to be in New York.
It's unjust for them to be in New York.
What?
Huh?
No, he's not making any argument, though, really.
He's just saying, I don't want you here.
My will, my base, degraded, degenerate, lower will, is insisting that we kick all of you people out.
And that is now, effectively, our system of justice in this country.
There will not be peace if that is taken to be our system of justice.
There can't be.
Because there's nothing to rely on.
A great consolation in this world is even though we all suffer injustices, I know it's very fashionable now on the BLM left to say that only black people ever suffer injustice.
And you know, white people, they've got it so good.
And on the feminist left, only women ever suffer injustice.
And man, man, we got it so good.
And only on the intersectional sort of sexual left, only...
Homosexuals and transsexuals and whoever.
People who have kind of unusual sexual behaviors.
Only they have it bad.
But straight people, oh man, they got it so good.
Now, you know, everybody suffers injustice.
It's a fallen world and sin and death pervade the world.
And a ballast for us here, a great consolation, is that ultimately there is justice.
Ultimately there is the ultimate arbiter, the big judge in the sky.
And that our justice system here on earth is meant to pursue that very justice, that very same justice which is eternal even if it is imperfectly applied in this world.
If we lose faith in that because we now have faith in some bizarre religious understanding, some totally perverse religious understanding of the world, then there really will not be any peace.
AOC, absolutely, absolutely right on that minor point.
She's probably cheering it on.
I think the rest of us, people who are looking at the situation, it's a little more sobriety.
No one can celebrate what happened yesterday.
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