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Nov. 4, 2020 - The Michael Knowles Show

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	Hey, Michael Knowles here.
	What will happen in the election?
	Well, we have got you covered.
	Don't miss a moment of the twists and turns in our special presidential election 2020 live coverage.
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	It is truly a once in a lifetime show.
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	Well, here we are. here we are.
	The day the Mayans warned us about.
	Election night 2020.
	It's the Super Bowl, the World Series, and the whatever-the-heck-soccer-calls-it all rolled into one.
	Will Donald Trump pull off another upset?
	Did the media do enough to get an old man in his basement elected to the highest office in the world?
	Do any of us have any idea whatsoever what's going to happen?
	No, I'm serious, guys.
	Does anybody know what's going to happen?
	Nope.
	Not me.
	Yes.
	Really?
	No.
	Unbelievable, this guy.
	So there it is, the kind of profound and prescient political analysis people have come to expect from us.
	My God, it's going to be a long night.
	The first polls close in just under one hour, and no matter what happens, I think what couldn't be more clear is that the establishment media and social media have utterly failed in their basic responsibilities.
	We're going to devote some of the many, many, many hours that we'll be together tonight discussing that problem and discussing what we can do about it.
	But the first thing you can do, if you're watching this right now on one of those channels, YouTube, Facebook, well click on over to TheDailyWire.com and watch the exact same show, us, over there.
	We've made some terrific enhancements to improve your viewing experience on our website tonight and to create a truly one-stop election HQ where you can get all the information you need to know exactly what's happening as we go.
	We're making the entire broadcast free for everyone, not just for our dailywire.com members.
	That said, we will be taking questions from our members throughout the night, and we'd love for you to get your questions in.
	So members will also have access to our live discussion feature throughout the show.
	Don't be afraid to become a member today.
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	Tonight's show is going to be bigger and better than anything we've ever staged before at The Daily Wire.
	We're going to have killer guests all night, from Candace Owens to Megyn Kelly, Stephen Crowder, Dave Rubin, Glenn Beck, more.
	But we've also set up a war room to bring you the most up-to-date numbers, analysis, and social reactions throughout, well, throughout Armageddon, which is what we're facing tonight.
	To tell you how all that is going to work, I'm going to kick it over to the brilliant Elisha Krauss.
	Yes, I said the brilliant Elisha Krauss, because my attorneys credibly informed me I can no longer call her lovely without getting her to first sign a waiver.
	Elisha, tell us how the war room is going to work.
	I hope I look pretty lovely tonight, and I know that I have other lovely people here with me.
	And we're going to be bringing you hard-hitting, brand-new news information and data all throughout the night, including what people on social media are saying with a very familiar face to The Daily Wear audience.
	Kathy Dillon.
	Hi, so I'll be on Twitter all night long watching the reactions, maybe some meltdowns later, we'll see what happens.
	But I'll be watching what you guys are saying, so if you want to get involved, tweet at us at Real Daily Wire and I'll be here keeping you updated.
	It's election night, and next, the other thing that we have happening in the War Room is we're going to go to Daily Wire's Editor-in-Chief, John Bickley.
	John, explain what's going on in this actual physical War Room that's behind you.
	Gorgeously asked, thank you very much.
	We've got the War Room behind us.
	This is where we're crunching the numbers, getting the most recent data, all the updates on the election, feeding it out to you guys through live feed and on the website.
	So we're trying to just keep you up to date.
	You can stay with us the whole night.
	Don't have to worry about you're missing something, though.
	We've got it.
	We're on it.
	Editorial staff is on the ball.
	So that's what we're doing in there.
	So let's take a walk over here and see what we need to be looking for.
	Yep.
	So let's show this is another continuation of our war room.
	We have the data entry happening over here.
	And like you said, it's going to be cohesive.
	So people are watching the stream, hopefully on dailyware.com, and then also checking out the home page.
	Our team of hardworking people in there is going to be updating this map throughout the night.
	All right, so we have this interactive map here.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	It's not interactive.
	So we've got this map here that is laying out the scene.
	You know, we thought about the best way.
	How do you explain to people what are we looking for tonight?
	We should start with 2016.
	This is how Trump won it and shocked everyone.
	He totaled over 300 electoral votes.
	How did he do it?
	He won 10 of the 12 battleground states.
	No one saw this coming at all.
	No one anticipated it.
	And no one's actually predicting he will do that this year.
	He doesn't need to do it this year.
	He needs to get over 270.
	To do that, we've looked at it, looked at all the latest polling.
	In the last week, there's been major movements actually in the poll, which we'll highlight later.
	He needs to win 7 of the 12 battleground states.
	So the seven to watch out of the 12 are Florida, Texas, both must wins, Georgia, North Carolina, Ohio, Arizona, and Pennsylvania.
	So we're going to especially focus on those.
	Pennsylvania has become a major focal point for both campaigns.
	We'll keep you up to date on that and be watching these razor thin margins.
	For these races.
	This, you know, it could be a long night, like we said, and it might be a long couple of weeks.
	We're going to keep you up to date on it.
	So, and in this scenario, what are you paying attention to?
	Right.
	So we're looking at, we're comparing results, the early results from 2016, looking at how it's playing out in the different states.
	Florida is the first to watch.
	Got it.
	Georgia closes next.
	We're watching those very carefully.
	Those are super tight.
	They're within one Uh, the margin of error of one in terms of the polling.
	Same with North Carolina.
	Texas is getting close to that.
	Ohio and Pennsylvania, all of them within two.
	Okay.
	So, it's going to be tight.
	So, we're going to watch them in the order that they close and be updating.
	And be updating the audience.
	As we get information, right.
	Be updating the guys on their set over there.
	And, of course, I'll still be taking subscriber questions, member questions, which we love to hear from the audience.
	So, we have a lot happening over here.
	It's going to be really interesting, hard-hitting news, lots of data, and you guys can just, you know, chat and smoke cigars or something.
	Beautiful.
	That's essentially all we're good for is chatting and smoking cigars.
	Guys, looking ahead at the night, we agreed no predictions, which I think is sound.
	Everybody all day keeps texting me and asking me for predictions.
	That's what people want, I think, when they talk to us.
	But my experience with this is the only prediction you can win is if you say Trump is going to win 40 states and then Trump wins 40 states.
	If that happens, you are a genius.
	But it's a high risk, a high risk gambit.
	Every other play only makes us look like we're bad at our jobs.
	So we're not here to tell you what's going to happen.
	We're here to tell you what's happening and what it means.
	We're here to talk about the stakes of the night because I think the stakes are as high as they have been in any election, probably in modern memory.
	It's funny.
	Everybody says every election is the most consequential election of our lifetime.
	Part of that, of course, is hyperbole.
	Part of it is the sort of bias of the now.
	But part of it is because as.
	As the government intrudes further and further and further into our lives, the actual stakes do ratchet in one direction.
	It's very hard to ever get that ratchet to go back.
	That's the thing about a ratchet.
	It doesn't go the other way.
	So very important night.
	We're going to help people contextualize that.
	Let's start just by talking about the stakes here together.
	Drew, what are we facing tonight?
	What does it mean?
	Before we even get to policy, I think you have to talk about culture because culture is where the future fights are going to be won and lost.
	And one of the things we have seen is we have seen a news media that has wholly corrupted itself.
	This is the legacy news media, which has just all in for one candidate to the point of actually blockading reasonable news.
	After three and a half years of selling us a Russian collusion story that didn't happen, they actually shut down a Biden corruption story that very much looks like it might well have happened and is certainly better sourced than the Russian collusion story.
	But Adam Schiff doesn't know.
	He doesn't have firsthand evidence.
	He wasn't there.
	He wasn't physically in the room.
	And this comes after what to me was the turning point of everything, which was the Tara Reid accusations, where after listening to a woman accused Brett Kavanaugh of something with no proof that she'd ever met him, we had Tara Reid accuse Joe Biden of having done something even worse.
	And she actually has met him.
	And in the one case, a full court press to destroy Brett Kavanaugh went into place across the media, all the way from one side to the other.
	And from the left all the way to the far left.
	And with the other, it was buried.
	The other case, the story wasn't told for 19 days.
	The New York Times buried it in our Easter paper.
	And so what we're looking at now is do they have the power, as you said in your opening, funnily, but it's also not that funny, is do they have the power to take a clearly senile old man who is a front for a radical left Uh, party, and push him over the top.
	And I think if we see that stopped, it is going to be very meaningful because it means that we, the replacement media, have a good shot at replacing this dishonest and corrupt, desiccated legacy.
	Funnily, but not that funnily, is going to be the name of my autobiography.
	Ben, I agree with what Drew just said.
	I think that the real story tonight, no matter who wins, no matter who is the next president, the most consequential event of the night, or the most consequential story of the night, Is the state of the media in the country?
	What's your read? - No question that that's the case.
	I think it's the media.
	I think more broadly it's the takeover of virtually every cultural institution by the left.
	And I think that the right has typically fought the culture war by electing Republicans.
	If the Democrats are able to take back the auspices of government power and use that to foster the culture war as well, then all guns are turned against conservatives, against religious people, against people who just want to be left alone in their daily lives.
	We've watched the takeover of nearly every institution in America by a radical left, very small movement that has made extraordinary gains.
	And I'm not even just talking about the sort of typical Democratic left.
	I'm talking about the woke left that seeks to cancel everybody who doesn't fulfill the obligations put upon them by Ibram Kendi and Robin DiAngelo.
	I'm talking about people who believe that you shouldn't be friends with anybody who would even consider voting Republican.
	You certainly shouldn't employ those people.
	Those people have now become a moving force in American life to the point where so many Americans are even afraid to speak freely.
	It's that bad on a cultural level.
	You get the power of government behind that.
	You get Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Democrats in the Senate wrecking institutions in pursuit of majoritarian cram down on everybody else.
	And things could get really, really ugly really, really quickly.
	And when we talk about the institutions, we are obviously talking here about the establishment media, which has been worth 8 to 10 points in nearly every election for Democrats in my lifetime.
	In this election, my guess is they're probably worth 10 to 15 points, given how much they hate Donald Trump and how much rage they've stoked against Trump, particularly on the COVID issue, where they've just promoted the myth that Donald Trump is almost like a sort of bizarre blight upon the land, and that if Trump is removed from office, COVID will just go away.
	But it's not just them.
	It's the takeover of corporate America that scares the hell out of me as well.
	And that includes social media, because corporate There was this conventional wisdom idea that Republicans had bought into for a very long time, which was that, sure, everybody gets woke in college.
	Sure, everybody goes radical in college.
	And then you grow up, right?
	You get out, get a job, get married, you pay taxes.
	You know, the old Winston Churchill kind of, the old saw about, you know, liberals being, you know, having heart but having no brain by the time they're 40.
	That would start to apply.
	People would move on.
	But instead, what's happened is people got out of college.
	And they actually changed the institutions to fit them.
	And so now you have major corporations saying that they will not do business with you if you are of a particular point of view, openly catering to the other side.
	You have credit card companies that are rejecting business with particular with particular businesses.
	You have social media that is acting the same way.
	They kind of live halfway in that space between media and corporate America.
	But the social media shutting down the Hunter Biden story, not because they thought it was false, but because they thought they feared it might be true.
	And so it had to be shut down, because if it were allowed to be put out there, then you might have enough information to make your own choices.
	This is the battle that we're in.
	Right now, you know, Trump is at the forefront of that battle.
	Republicans are at the forefront of that battle.
	Not because that's the way we win the culture war, but because if we continue to lose the culture war, and we lose the political war as well, there will be nothing left other than a complete separation of the American public, which is what we're watching in real time.
	Yeah.
	It does seem like, for the first time in my lifetime, balkanization is an actual possible outcome.
	As the red gets redder, as the blue gets bluer.
	And unlike the last time that we saw a separation happen in our country, I'm not sure that anyone actually cares enough for their fellow citizen who disagrees with them politically to actually engage in any sort of armed conflict to keep them.
	I mean, I think you can really see the possibility of something like Brexit forming.
	And, you know, Ben, you spoke about this eloquently in your book, but a sort of de-unionization, right?
	Yeah, this is right.
	The dissolution of the republic.
	That's right.
	It could be at hand.
	The only reason I think that it could get ugly is because people who are in charge of the federal government, if they're Democrats, don't want to see the taxpayer dollars walk out the door.
	And they're very much afraid that if job creation is happening in the red states and dying in the blue states, you can't let everybody who's got the money actually walk out the door.
	There's a reason that East Germany had to actually build a wall to keep people from escaping.
	Because all communism is international communism, right?
	It actually doesn't work in any sort of local... I mean, it doesn't work even if it's local, but at least they can say they don't know that.
	When Joe Biden says he's a unifying figure, and then it is perfectly obvious that his party has decided that they wish to basically subsume individual rights and personal freedoms and the philosophy of the Declaration of Independence in favor of a pursuit of left-wing utopia, They're making their choice, and that's an ugly choice.
	I mean, I thought that maybe the future of the country rested on good-hearted liberals getting together with conservatives and classical liberals, and at least we were unified over what we thought our basic rights were, and then we would argue about policy.
	But it seems like a lot of members of the Democratic Party, including people like Joe Biden, have decided it's much easier to go along with a woke left that gives them an easier path to utopia, even if that means getting rid of American philosophy, American history, and those personal rights.
	Well, and that brings us to another important issue, Michael, which is that we've seen an unleashing of racial animus.
	Yeah.
	During the last four years.
	That is certainly different than anything that I've seen in my life.
	Drew lived through, I don't know, probably the Civil War.
	It was bad.
	It was real shooting then.
	You could only load once, but still, you know.
	Nevertheless, it really seems like, in my lifetime, there's been great racial reconciliation that's taken place all throughout my life.
	And now, you know, even pals of ours, David French made a A speech in a debate that he did with Eric Metaxas, in which he kept accusing Trump of fueling racial hatred in the country, pouring fuel on racial animus, I think is what he said.
	But I look around and I see the only people who are really wielding race and stirring racial animus are this modern left.
	It's Joe Biden saying that Republicans want to put y'all back in chains.
	It's the burning down of cities now, apparently, even when an armed black man attacking police is killed by police in self-defense.
	What does it mean for our country that these racial divisions are being played upon the way that they are?
	Is there a way to get back to a place where we can all coexist?
	Well, I think what it means is that Donald Trump just has not condemned white supremacy.
	I hope tonight, on election night, he would do that.
	I think he's done it about 700 million times so far, but he should do it 700 million and one times.
	Of course, Donald Trump famously said racism is evil.
	He goes on and on.
	He says we all bleed the same blood of patriots.
	Which is true, we do all bleed the same blood as patriots, if we're patriots, if we love our country.
	And the left has made clear, they don't love the country.
	I wish it didn't come down to that, but I think this election presents a clear choice.
	Trump supporters wave the American flag, Biden supporters burn the American flag.
	Not all Biden supporters, obviously there are many who do not.
	But all the people who are burning the flags right now support Joe Biden over Donald Trump and more in a greater number than the flag burners.
	There are many, many Biden supporters who don't like the flag on fire, but they think that America was founded in 1619, not 1776.
	They think that America is fundamentally defined by the worst aspects of her history, namely slavery, among other issues.
	There are many people in this country who want to fundamentally transform it, who think the past of America is uniformly evil, who think that the present of America is uniformly evil, and they love America in the future, in the future of their dreams where it's unrecognizable.
	They want to, to quote Barack Obama, fundamentally transform America.
	Well, we're looking at an America that is becoming fundamentally transformed.
	And it's pretty ugly.
	That fundamental transformation is, as you were pointing out, Jeremy, creating a new American caste system, ripping up racial animosities, sexual animosities, all sorts of animosities.
	That is a really awful thing.
	And I think the election comes down to, do you embrace your fellow American as an American, wave the flag, or do you torch that country and create some new project that looks pretty scary?
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	Okay, so we said we weren't going to do predictions, so let's not do predictions, but we should do analysis.
	Absolutely.
	So as John Bickley, editor-in-chief of The Daily Wire, my former position, has suggested, there are a bunch of states to keep an eye on early.
	Here's the rundown on when the polls close in each particular state.
	So as of 7 p.m.
	Eastern, which is in about 40 minutes here, the polls close in Georgia, the rest of Indiana, they already closed in some parts of Indiana, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vermont, and Virginia.
	At 7.30 p.m.
	Eastern, 4.30 p.m.
	Pacific.
	They close in North Carolina, Ohio, and West Virginia at 8 p.m.
	Eastern.
	Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware, D.C., Florida.
	Polls do close at 7 p.m.
	Eastern outside of Florida's panhandle.
	But they don't release the results the same way that they used to because obviously in 2000 there was a lot of fear that by releasing early results in Florida, They're actually going to lead to decreased voter turnout in the panhandle, which is sort of what happened.
	They started announcing the results early in Florida.
	A bunch of people in the panhandle said, oh, I guess the voting's over and didn't show up in the panhandle to vote for Bush.
	So they shifted how they report the votes in Florida.
	And most of the states, basically by 8 p.m.
	Eastern, are in Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Tennessee.
	As far as when the states Actually count those votes.
	Florida counts nearly right away.
	So Florida is going to be probably your earliest indicator of where the election is going at this point.
	And, you know, having spent some time in Florida, it's always really competitive.
	It always tends to pull a little bit more Democrat than it ends up being.
	That's what happened with Ron DeSantis and Andrew Gillum last time in the gubernatorial race in 2018.
	I can tell you just anecdotally, the enthusiasm for Trump is extremely, extremely high in Florida.
	I think that Trump is going to win Florida, although Right now, if you watch Twitter, if you watch the various parties, they're suggesting that there's a lot of late turnout from 4 to 6 p.m.
	for Democrats, particularly in Broward County, which is a blue county in Florida.
	It's close to Miami.
	It goes Miami-Dade and then Broward and then Palm Beach as you move up the coast.
	So we'll see how Florida turns out.
	Keep an eye on North Carolina and Florida early on.
	Later in the night, keep an eye on Arizona.
	Trump needs to win Florida, North Carolina and Arizona.
	This is his easiest path.
	Florida, North Carolina, Arizona, Pennsylvania.
	That's his path.
	If he does not win any of those states, you're going to start seeing weird talk about Nevada or Minnesota maybe filling the gap.
	That is unlikely, I think, at best.
	So he does need to win those three southern, southwestern states.
	And then he needs to win Pennsylvania as well.
	The Biden campaign was betraying a little bit of anxiety, by the way, pretty early on.
	What it really comes down to for the people watching right now is Trump can lose quite early tonight, as with Mitt Romney in 2012.
	He can only win quite late tonight, as with Trump 2016.
	If we see the polls close in just under 58 minutes, if the polls close in, I'm sorry, in just under 38 minutes, If the polls close in Florida and the president were to lose Florida, it would be like 2012 Mitt Romney, a very short night.
	We'll be here to commiserate with you, but it won't be the joyful celebration we're all hoping for.
	For the president to win, he's going to have to pick up Arizona, which means we're going to be here probably until 8 p.m.
	All that, of course, best-case scenario.
	That assumes that we're not within the margin of error.
	That assumes that we're not litigating this thing until, you know, I don't know.
	The end of time.
	The end of time.
	Yeah.
	Florida, again, most of the votes come in pretty early.
	And they've been tabulating the votes as they go along.
	Pennsylvania is the one that's the nightmare scenario.
	If it comes down to Pennsylvania, as people have been talking about, there's a court ruling that basically kicked the can down the road on how late ballots can be received.
	Ballots can now be received for days after the election.
	It is unclear whether they can be postmarked after the election, which means that the election day is not actually the election day.
	Attorney General is writing as fast as he can to fill them out.
	Right, exactly.
	It would be pretty wild.
	I need a pen!
	Somebody get me a pen!
	The sort of basic math thus far is that there's an expectation that Democrats are going to do well in mail-in voting.
	That Republicans are doing well in early voting, not mail-in.
	Like in-person early voting, they're doing pretty well.
	And that on Election Day, Republicans are expected to face the Democrats pretty significantly.
	It's pretty surprising, the early voting.
	Republicans really turned out, Republicans are a little stodgy.
	They like to vote on Election Day.
	I like to vote on Election Day.
	But they did turn out early, and that was kind of a surprise, I think.
	Yeah, the Trump campaign really put a lot of focus on that.
	I think they made a strategic early error by saying that mail-in ballots are, in essence, bad.
	You saw Trump shift on that, right?
	Trump went to... except for in Florida.
	In Florida they're kind of good, right?
	So a lot of Republicans started to take him up on the, okay, well I don't trust mail-in ballots, but I do want to vote early, so I'm going to go and I'm going to show in Florida.
	Listen, I don't blame them.
	Let me tell you about the shenanigans that have gone on in California.
	I've gotten... I've been permanent absentee in California since it... basically since it became possible to be permanent absentee in California.
	I don't believe in voting until Election Day, but what my wife and I have always done as a precaution in case we needed to travel or ran into any other kind of problems, we're permanent absentee.
	On Election Day we take our absentee ballot to our polling place and we turn it in instead of sticking it in the mail.
	I've never trusted mail-in voting, but I always thought that it was prudent to get the absentee ballot.
	For the first time this year, Registered Republican.
	I did not receive an absentee ballot.
	I received the sample ballot.
	I received the instruction packet.
	You get about five things over the course of the months leading into the election.
	Got all of them.
	Did not get a ballot.
	My wife did not get a ballot.
	My neighbor, who's a registered Republican, did not get their ballot.
	His wife, who's a registered Independent, did get her ballot.
	I've been hearing stories like this anecdotally from my friends all around California, several people who work here.
	So for the first time in quite a long time, I went down to my polling place without an absentee ballot.
	I checked in.
	I asked them to check and see if anyone had voted on my ballot.
	Fortunately, they said no.
	And they were able to cancel that ballot and let me vote on the machine.
	In the past, Californians always used the ink, punch ink system.
	This year, it was a digital system.
	It was basically an iPad in a booth that isn't even all that private, right?
	People can watch you, but you go to this iPad.
	And amazingly, when you get to the section on voting for president, they listed the presidential candidates in order, alphabetical by party.
	Yeah.
	D is for Democrat.
	So right at the top, there was Joe Biden, Kamala Harris.
	Then you had your Green Party.
	Then you had your Libertarian Party.
	And that was it.
	That was all that was on the pad.
	There was a little bitty button down at the bottom that said more.
	Now, I'm Of a certain age where I grew up with computers.
	Everyone here is.
	Except, I mean, you grew up with an abacus, so you kind of understand.
	You've worked in media your entire life.
	You can navigate a UX.
	Almost every UX is fairly intuitive.
	But we all have parents and grandparents who are of a slightly different generation who can't navigate even like the simplest Apple UX.
	You know, when you go from Apple iOSX to iOSX.1, It looks exactly the same, but the color changed, and your mom's like, Jeremy, I don't understand.
	Where's the green button?
	Well, Mom, it's the same button.
	But it used to be green!
	Now it's, like, almost green.
	It's like green.
	It was forest green!
	Anyway.
	If you're 80, if you're 90, you're more likely to vote for Trump than younger age demos.
	You don't know how to navigate these operating systems in this sort of organic user experience.
	You don't know to push the little tiny more button at the bottom.
	I did, and it takes you to a second page.
	Even on that page, Donald Trump isn't the first name because there's so many parties and R is pretty low in the alphabet.
	But can you just that small thing, how much How many votes get lost?
	Because people of a certain age get into the booth.
	They didn't get their mail-in ballot that they're accustomed to getting.
	They get into the booth.
	It doesn't even look like Donald Trump is on the ballot.
	You say, well, they can ask.
	Yeah, but in order to ask, you then have to tell people who you're voting for.
	Right.
	Which is an entire problem.
	I have this strange experience.
	Also, California, I'm voting in a very liberal district.
	And I insisted to my wife, Chagrin, on wearing the MAGA hat to go vote.
	And I wanted to do a little dance to vote to our poor Donald Trump.
	That should be illegal to do that dance, yeah, if you're me.
	So I go down, I'm wearing the MAGA hat, and she said, we're going to get shot.
	At best, we're going to get yelled at.
	And she was right.
	We did get yelled at.
	There was a little box that you could put it in, and then there were people waiting in line to cast their early ballots.
	And I did get yelled at by a guy who was voting for Donald Trump.
	And he said, hey man, MAGA, you know, love D.C.
	Wire.
	And then I got yelled at by another guy, also voting for Donald Trump, saying, don't put your ballot in that box.
	You've got to do it in here.
	It's safer.
	This, to me, would have been unthinkable.
	I voted in California many times.
	I've always worn silly Republican shorts or a MAGA hat or something like that.
	Never have I seen that kind of enthusiasm.
	A lot of people who haven't lived out here don't realize there have been rallies in Beverly Hills.
	This is the greatest compliment that I've ever received.
	Because unbeknownst to Michael, what he is essentially saying Is that I am so damn good at my job, that some poor schmuck actually recognized me.
	Well, I know, that was in public.
	He's like, I've gone to polling places my entire life, no one's ever recognized me.
	Like, yes, no, this is very true.
	He said, give Jeremy my regards.
	I said, absolutely.
	I couldn't get, I mean, these were fired up Trump voters.
	At a liberal precinct in LA, there have been rallies in Beverly Hills going on.
	I'm not saying Trump's going to win California.
	I'm not making any predictions.
	I'm certainly not making that one.
	You're right.
	This is a big change.
	This is a big change, and if the Republicans were not so brain dead, which they are, we're the stupid party, they're the evil party, you know, if they were not such a stupid party, they would catch on to this, that this is an important thing.
	Jeb, exclamation mark, was never going to get that happening.
	John McCain was never going to get that happening.
	Mitt Romney, never going to happen.
	This is something that has really ignited people and has hooked the Republican Party into a new strain of enthusiasm that won't turn California this time, but could turn California eventually.
	And when you see those crowds coming out, I know they don't mean anything in terms of the polls, the ultimate votes, but when you see those crowds turning out, that does tell you that there are people out there desperate for the kind of talk that they're hearing.
	From Donald Trump.
	And you know, I think we have all, I think, been very honest about Trump's character flaws.
	You know, we've talked about this.
	Have we?
	Have we all?
	I meant the three of us.
	I said one time he only got 30,000 at the rally.
	He didn't get 40.
	But we should talk for just a moment, if we might, about his character virtues.
	One of which is the fact That while Joe Biden was hiding in his basement with a mask, he was out there walking around, got COVID, three days later is campaigning more in a single day than Biden is in a month.
	Well, Biden's falling apart.
	I mean, you've seen footage from him today.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it is very obvious that his granddaughters, I mean, he's, he's flubbing nearly everything.
	I mean, it is very difficult to look at him and believe that this guy is going to be president in four years.
	No, but even beyond that is just when you remember when Trump got the disease and he came back and he said, don't let this dominate your life.
	And the media is one said, no, no, be afraid.
	I actually want to talk about this is a virtue that represents the Americans.
	I want to talk about the president and COVID.
	I want to talk about the president and the energy that he's really shown here in the last 30 days of this election.
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	Rather than me tell it to you, because I don't know nothing about it, we're going to go to Cassie Dillon in the War Room.
	Cassie, what's going on out there?
	So I've been keeping an eye on Twitter and a lot of things are going on right now.
	D.C.
	boarded up before the elections and so did many other cities.
	There's actually a wall outside the White House but right now in D.C.
	there is violence taking place.
	There are many videos going around on social media.
	There's one of a man with a metal bat outside the White House and then there's one of actually people getting arrested.
	The police are tossing them on the ground and apparently the violence started after the police tried to Disperse a crowd to move a car that was parked illegally, but violence is already taking place and polls have not even closed yet.
	So, you know, that's not really telling for the rest of the night.
	But these videos keep coming out and it's very troubling.
	You can take a look here.
	People on the ground.
	Police threw them on the ground and, you know, people are coming with weapons and they're ready to cause some problems, it seems like.
	Have we seen anything like this?
	In living memory during a presidential election?
	Well, during Inauguration Day for Trump, right?
	People went nuts and there was a bit of rioting in D.C.
	But on Election Day, the prep that you're seeing, ongoing.
	For violence.
	That people are looking for violence.
	Like, the fact is, if Joe Biden wins tonight, I think there'll still be violence.
	I think that if Biden wins, I think that there's going to be celebratory looting.
	I mean, when the, out here in LA, when the Lakers won the championship, there was celebratory looting.
	I mean, so it, there's always a group of people who are going to take advantage of any situation to do that.
	But everybody understands that if Trump wins, the violence is going to be extraordinary in a lot of blue cities.
	Nobody's boarding up because they're afraid of MAGA-hatted thugs coming down the street and wailing on their business front.
	Anybody who tells you differently is just lying to you.
	Well, I am going to go and get myself a Gucci purse tonight.
	But people always mention this.
	Of course you are, Michael.
	I need it.
	Come on.
	I'm not going to be the only one with that one.
	People have said for the past four years, Donald Trump makes me so ashamed.
	You hear this mostly from the left, but even some Republicans.
	Makes me ashamed to be an American.
	Trump doesn't make me ashamed.
	He's the best president of my lifetime.
	You know what does make me ashamed to be an American, though?
	Those scenes.
	Because the world's greatest democracy now looks like a third world banana republic with stores boarding up and people already engaging in violence because of an election.
	Antonin Scalia famously said in the 2000 election, Bush v. Gore, that it was so humiliating as a country that the greatest democracy in the world couldn't conduct its own election.
	How much more humiliating that before the results have come in, we are boarding up shop because of political violence in the street like we're some two-bit dictator?
	I hate to remind you of this, but I can't help myself that four years ago when Trump won and you were kind of saying, oh, this is a bad election.
	And I said, well, at least we have the peaceful transfer of power.
	And you scoffed at me.
	You said, of course we have the peaceful transfer.
	That's nothing to celebrate.
	You know, we should value these things while we got them, because they disappear like that.
	Well, it is another element of what we're talking about when we talk about replacing the media.
	The fact that there have been polls showing a plurality of Americans believe that the violence in America's cities are being caused by militias and right-wing groups.
	Is that true?
	Oh, yeah.
	And that is because of the ongoing propaganda effort by the Democratic Party and the media, which are Arms of one another.
	I mean, they are the same to proclaim that violence in America is chiefly caused by the right wing.
	The same people who call the Tea Party terrorists won't force Joe Biden to even face up to saying anything bad about Antifa.
	And then they claim that the violence in the streets has nothing to do with them.
	I'm sorry, but a lot of what we're talking about tonight, if Trump wins and there is violence, a lot of what we're talking about tonight has been actively fostered by a media that has been proclaiming the only way that Donald Trump loses, the only way Donald Trump wins is through voter suppression.
	They're actively saying this day after day.
	They are arguing that all of these lawsuits being filed all over the country by Republicans about what ought to be a legally counted ballot and what ought not to be a legally counted ballot, that that is an act of voter suppression.
	You saw Anna Pressley suggest that long lines for a thing are voter suppression.
	Unless it's for bread.
	Like Bernie Sanders loves bread lines.
	But if it's a line to vote, then it's very bad.
	Bread lines are good because at the end you get bread.
	Lines to vote are bad because at the end you vote.
	But also that's voter suppression.
	So the Democratic claims of voter suppression have been so much more loud and boisterous than even the Republican claims of voter fraud.
	And I'm not a big fan of the voter fraud claims because I just don't think that there's systemic evidence of hundreds of thousands of votes being counted fraudulently.
	I think that it has cropped up its head in particular congressional districts or in very, very, very tight races.
	Which is something to worry about.
	But when you claim widespread voter suppression, which has been the Democratic lie for the last several years, right?
	Stacey Abrams lost by 50,000 votes.
	But if it hadn't been for voter suppression in a record turnout year, then Stacey Abrams definitely would have won.
	If there's violence in the streets because of that, when you have the AG of Pennsylvania literally saying there is no way for Donald Trump to win this state unless active voter suppression takes place.
	What do you think the predictable result of that is going to be if Donald Trump wins the election?
	And it is sad because it's not, I don't think it is, the typical Democrat, the typical Democrat voter.
	It is a small portion of the Democrat population egged on by these massive corporations, these massive wealthy corporations, news industry, social media, Amazon, you know, Amazon sending me Ibram X. Kendi's book, you know, advertising his book, you know, if you like the poetry of John Keats, you'll like Ibram X. Kendi.
	That's the kind of thing.
	And the thing is, it never seems to occur to our stalwart communists on the left, to AOC or anybody in the squad.
	How come if we're socialists, all these rich people are supporting us?
	It never seems to, like the little light bulb never goes on.
	But here's the thing.
	I think that when you're talking about that, when you talk about, you know, it never occurs to the socialists that the corporations are supporting them.
	That I think it's the corporation's part of the ones who are being short-sighted.
	I think the socialists know full well that the corporations are supporting them.
	Yeah.
	And they're willing to ride that train as far as it goes until they turn around and execute everybody.
	It's all fun and games until Robespierre takes over.
	And I think that they understand that if they can get the backing of the corporate world, they can cudgel them and back them into a corner and the corporate world goes along with them.
	This is the thing that's the scariest to me.
	I mean, again, I mentioned it earlier, but the takeover of corporate America by anti-racist Ibram X. Kendi philosophy and the takeover of the media by the same philosophy.
	That is scary as all hell.
	Norm Perlstein, who's leaving the LA Times, he's the editor and he's going to be leaving after the election.
	Whole article from Ben Smith, how many members of the media are like, if Trump loses, our job here is done because democracy dies in darkness and other such bullshit.
	The basic notion that Norm Perlstein said, he said, once Trump is out of office, the media are going to change their mission.
	They have to be more diverse and more anti-racist.
	So, openly acknowledging a political agenda.
	They quoted Wesley Lowry, who used to be a reporter for the Washington Post, and who was fired because he was overtly political in his coverage of Ferguson, Missouri, and who now says that all reporters should be overtly political in their coverage.
	And he says, yeah, all of the media corporations came around to us.
	I mean, that's what's scaring the living heck out of us.
	And it's scary because the ordinary person who has three kids and a job and doesn't... They're not paying attention.
	Well, not only are they not paying attention, but even if they disagree, what do they do?
	What do you do when you have to go into HR and take the anti-racist class?
	And say, you know, and basically mouth all this nonsense, all this racist nonsense, and you risk losing your job if you don't do it.
	That is a way of taking over people's minds.
	That's because freedom of speech, yes, is a legal construct in the country.
	Because of the First Amendment, it's the case that the government can't infringe upon your freedom of speech or freedom of expression.
	But freedom of speech has also always been a mentality.
	In the country, we've basically been a country of people who weren't going to be told what they could think, weren't going to be told what they could say.
	The problem is if you lose the mentality and all you're left with at the end of the day is the legal protection, you've already lost.
	Because the legal protection won't hold in a society where people don't grant the actual moral premise.
	This is where people like David French, with whom I profoundly disagree about this election, but where he isn't altogether wrong when he says, for example, that character is destiny.
	I think that David French and John Piper, Mitt Romney, these sort of decent men who can't let go of their sensibilities being so shattered by Donald Trump, they try to make this argument that the character of a leader is the destiny of a country.
	At its most extreme, of course, that's true.
	But I don't think that that's actually true day-to-day.
	I think almost all national leaders have always been of dubious moral character because power corrupts, wealth corrupts, fame corrupts.
	This is why even a leader after God's own heart like David still doesn't get to build the temple, right?
	It's why Moses can't inherit the land of promise, because being the leader actually comes with some consequence.
	Nevertheless, it is true that the character of a people is the destiny of a nation.
	And so, if the character of our people is no longer a character of freedom, then the destiny of our nation is not.
	But this is also if I can just finish this thought, this is also why I've been so hard on the social media and don't believe that there's any argument where you say, well, they're private businesses, because you have to start with the idea that our right to free speech comes from God.
	The First Amendment protects us from the government interference.
	interfering with that God given right.
	But the government has to protect us from social media or anybody else interfering with it.
	The right is absolute.
	It is a right.
	The right to free speech comes from God.
	And if we don't believe in it, we let it go.
	And that's right.
	You know, I remember in 2008, when Ron Paul was running for president, people would make fun of him because every other word he would say, the Constitution.
	You know, he'd always go back to that.
	And there were memes going around the internet where they'd say, oh, you're going to talk about my Constitution again and more about the Constitution.
	And the joke of that is not that we don't love the Constitution.
	The joke of that is that if the people lose their knowledge of and respect for our constitutional order, That piece of paper isn't going to help us.
	It has to be... Our founding fathers talked about this so much.
	Abraham Lincoln especially talked about this.
	He said we have to revere our founding documents, our founding institutions.
	The men who gave us our country.
	When you lose that because now the legacy media are constantly pushing us.
	They actually rewrote the curriculum.
	It's called the 1619 Project.
	These fake educators, these pseudo-scholars are pushing this kind of nonsense.
	Big tech is pushing this nonsense.
	Then all of a sudden you look up and you realize you don't have a country.
	And while we may quibble with Donald Trump on various policies, I do too, and I really like the guy, but I still quibble with some of the policies.
	But you've got this image of Trump hugging the American flag, and you've got the other side basically saying the country's rotten to the core.
	That's a big distinction, and I will defend the First Amendment every single day of the week.
	We have to believe it, we have to embody it, we have to enact it every day.
	Another virtue is his visceral love of country.
	Yeah, Donald Trump does love his country, and that is... I don't know that loving your country is virtuous per se.
	Loving your country when your country is lovable is certainly virtuous, and hating your country when your country is lovable is anti-virtue, right?
	To hate a country as good as America Is a failure of character and to love a country as good as America is a virtuous requirement.
	And I would also say it's unnatural, Martha.
	You know, it's like loving your country is like loving your mother.
	You might have to have a problem with her, but she's your mom.
	It's an extension of filial piety.
	Love of country is an extension of your mother.
	And of course, your country can go so far, just like your mom, your country can go so far off the book, you've got to toss her out the drain.
	We're not going to get into those issues.
	It is true, I think, that when you look at how Attitudinally, everybody approaches Election Day.
	What I'm seeing from the right is, you know, a lot of nervousness about what's going to happen in the aftermath of the election.
	And what I'm seeing from the left is sheer panic.
	The very idea that Donald Trump would be reelected.
	So, you know, if Joe Biden wins, I'm gonna be very concerned about the state of the country.
	And then I'm gonna get to work tomorrow, and I'm gonna keep fighting for the values that we're all fighting for.
	What you're getting from Democrats is sheer, full-on panic, in the same crazy, hair-on-fire way that they've been sheer, full-on panicked since 2016.
	I mean, let me read you this tweet from the estimable Sally Cohn.
	She just tweeted out, quote, four years ago, I used my dog Xanax the night of the election.
	Now I have my own.
	Happy 2020.
	Wow.
	That's somebody who's definitely healthy, and we should probably put in charge of policy.
	I was talking with Drew about this before the show.
	One of the things that I think is so indicative of the conflict that's happening right now in the country is that the left believes that institutions are only there to be used.
	They're either obstacles to utopia or they are tools in pursuit of utopia.
	The right tends to believe that institutions are built in order to protect certain values.
	And so we respect the Constitution because we believe that the Constitution is there to protect the values of the Declaration of Independence.
	The left believes that the Constitution is there in order to do all the things that it wants to do.
	And if the Constitution doesn't do it, you just get rid of the Constitution.
	And they believe this about the university system.
	They believe this about the educational system.
	They believe this about pretty much all of the, about the family, the nuclear family.
	If it doesn't achieve what they want it to achieve, then all of those things are dispensable.
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	He's so much better than I am at this.
	The idea of a cloned Ben Shapiro, I lost the power.
	I know, it is that incredible isn't it?
	Something like that.
	By the way, it's CNN.
	Okay, so they're having a healthy one over at CNN.
	Brian Stelter, who's a very reliable source.
	Yes.
	He's very, very reliable.
	That's what they call him.
	He's very reliable.
	And his sources are reliable.
	His sources are reliable, and he's very reliable himself in his sources.
	So he just tweeted out, in Slack, motivational messages are bouncing back and forth.
	Here we go.
	Good luck everyone.
	Don't forget to eat.
	Stay hydrated.
	And more ominously, stay safe.
	There's nothing left to say except, let's count the votes.
	Brian Stelter saying, stay hydrated, to me is uniquely comedic.
	Uniquely hilarious.
	You need to stay hydrated.
	I'm glad though, it's better than his- Like, Leslie Nielsen's gonna pop into the cockpit and just go, we're all counting on you.
	That's when I developed my drinking problem.
	I'll take that any time.
	Between Matt's boot declaring himself a hero last night.
	Oh, that was wonderful.
	What did he say?
	I missed it.
	Oh, it was pretty great.
	He tweeted out last night about how he and the never Trumpers, like the true never Trumpers, the people who now want you to vote for Democrats, you know, the real Republicans, the people who love conservatism so much, that you should not just vote against Donald Trump, you should actually vote actively in favor of Susan Collins, Susan Collins' opponent in Maine, right?
	That's what you need to do.
	So he tweeted out this piece that he'd written for the Washington Post.
	All about what an incredible hero he is.
	And I want to get the wording right, so I'm going to dig for it instead of stalling for time.
	So you guys talk for a second while I find Max.
	Rather than that, I want to take a question from one of our DailyWire.com subscribers.
	They're the people who make it possible for us to bring you this show free tonight.
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	But it's because of our DailyWire.com members that we're able to do that.
	Elisha, what are you hearing from our people?
	I'm here and I will make sure that I don't throw anybody under the bus.
	Michael Knowles is not that interesting in Slack.
	He just talks about where he gets his cigars and where we're drinking later tonight.
	Which, you know, depending on what happens, depends on how heavily Michael will be drinking.
	But our first question from an amazing Daily Wire member goes to the God King himself, Jeremy Boring.
	He wants to know, do you guys think the media is going to drop the COVID stuff after this election or double on down?
	So I think that we'll see a few things happen.
	I looked at a list this week of different states whose mask and COVID restriction policies expire within 10 days of the election and it is remarkable.
	A mask mandate for New York ends on the 3rd and on the 5th.
	Now some of them are realizing that they were a little too on the nose Uh, with how they situated these things and they're racing to extend them now.
	But that's just covering their own petards.
	They knew what they were doing when they made these mask mandates three months ago expire on 11-3, or 11-5, or 11-6.
	11-3 or 11-5 or 11-6.
	What magic thing was supposed to happen by 11-3 or 11-5 or 11-6?
	It's the election.
	Does that mean that COVID is exclusively political?
	That people don't have a legitimate health concern?
	I don't think so.
	But it does mean that their primary concern, the primary concern of Democrat governors, the primary concern of Democrat mayors has been to instill fear and to be able to blame Donald Trump for all the deaths that happen.
	With COVID.
	Are they about to let up on all of it?
	I don't think so.
	I think that now they've actually created a problem that they can't solve.
	By, for example, letting these businesses be locked down for seven, eight, nine months.
	Now it's going to be very hard for businesses to make people go back to work.
	When they try to reopen, their employees are rightly going to say, well, why am I safe now when I wasn't safe four months ago?
	What's happened?
	There's no vaccine.
	In fact, if anything, cases are ticking up as we enter into the flu season, as we enter into the part of the year when Viral infections are the most likely to happen winter when it's cold, when it's damp.
	I think that they've created a lot of challenges for themselves where now I wouldn't be surprised if COVID is essentially with us as a political issue until June.
	Now, I know that Ben has an opinion about this.
	I've heard him talk about it.
	He may have even spoken about it on his show today, which I do think is an important additional insight, which is how I think they've gamed the system and now they're trapped a little bit.
	But Ben actually thinks that there's a way they can extricate themselves by gaming what happens next, which is the decline that will naturally happen at the end of the viral season.
	Ben, do you want to talk about that?
	This is my only prediction of the night I am fully confident of.
	And I'm really, really confident of this prediction.
	So we know the numbers are going to go up in November.
	We know the numbers are going to go up in December.
	And according to basically every law of epidemiology, apparently they're going to start declining in January, February, right?
	And so, because that's what happens.
	It goes up and then it comes down again.
	And then once it's down, one of the things people are not really paying attention to is the fact that the states where it got hit hard first time are not really getting hit hard this time.
	Florida's not getting hit hard.
	Georgia's not getting hit hard.
	New York and Jersey not getting hit hard right now.
	There really is not a second wave.
	There's really just a big first wave.
	It really is just a big first wave.
	It's a big country.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And that's what you're seeing in Europe too, right?
	It's not a second wave in Germany or France.
	It's actually kind of a big first wave, because the harder you lock down at the beginning, the worse the wave is the second time.
	So what that means is that you're going to see this thing skyrocket and continue to skyrocket, not in terms of death, but in terms of cases.
	And by the way, if you follow this stuff, pay attention to deaths and hospitalizations.
	Don't pay attention to cases.
	Cases are an incredibly useless statistic.
	Particularly among children.
	You keep seeing headlines, hundreds of thousands of cases have been diagnosed among kids.
	121 children have died in the United States of COVID-19 out of several hundred thousand infections.
	The death rates on this thing are way lower than flu for kids.
	Anyway, here's what's going to happen.
	January 20th, Inauguration Day, assume Biden wins for the sake of argument.
	What's then going to happen is Biden will come in and he will declare a mask mandate, even though he doesn't have the constitutional power to do so, or he'll try to bully states into doing it with a variety of incentive programs.
	There will be a media celebration of this as the first time that we as a country have ever taken COVID seriously.
	Then the numbers, which will already be declining by January 20th.
	We'll continue to decline, and then they will declare that the mask mandate is the reason for the decline.
	They will attribute the decline to the action of Joe Biden, even though the two have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with one another, because every country in Europe, basically, has a mask mandate and has seen a massive spike.
	Nonetheless, Italy, France, Germany, and all the rest.
	How do I know they're going to do this?
	Because they did the exact same thing with Andrew Cuomo.
	The thing peaked, and then Andrew Cuomo declared a mask mandate, and then they declared it was Andrew Cuomo's stellar and intrepid leadership led to the decline in New York.
	So I've been promising you guys so far tonight that we're going to have all kinds of surprises.
	It's the biggest show that we've ever mounted here at The Daily Wire.
	And the first one is upon us.
	The polls close in Florida in seven minutes.
	We're going to start getting our first important information about the future of the country.
	And here to walk us through what that might look like is the governor of Florida himself, a man who, while only one year older than me, is far more successful and slightly less handsome.
	Governor Ron DeSantis, thank you for joining us.
	Good to be here, and just for the record, polls in the Eastern Time Zone close at 7.
	The Panhandle is 7 Central, so they will continue to go until 8 p.m.
	Eastern Time.
	Remember back in 2000, all the networks forgot about that, and they made a big mistake by calling Florida for Al Gore before the Panhandle even closed.
	Yep.
	So keep voting in the panhandle message there.
	And if you're in line, your vote will be taken.
	So stay in line if you're in the panhandle.
	Stay in line.
	Also, Governor DeSantis, welcome me to your state.
	So I'm now a resident of your fantastic state.
	And I will say, your state is far superior to the state in which I currently sit.
	It is more beautiful.
	It has better governance.
	It has better women because my wife is there right now.
	And it's a pretty spectacular place.
	I have to say, it is nice to live in a state where they have decided not to lock down every single thing.
	In the state.
	I went to the gym.
	I tried to go to the gym this morning in L.A.
	and the hotel was completely empty.
	Like, there's no one in the entire hotel and they had locked the gym thanks to Governor Gavin Newsom.
	That is not what's happening in Florida.
	So, should we start by talking about election politics with Governor DeSantis or should we start with COVID stuff?
	Because he is the best governor in the country.
	Yeah, I know.
	I think that, well, one, just in terms of the election, have you registered to vote in Florida?
	I already did.
	Did you cast your vote in Florida?
	You bet your ass I did.
	For the first time in my entire Well, it's interesting because what we're seeing, and I think one of the things for you guys to just remind your viewers of, when Florida reports results, the first dump of votes will be the absentee, male votes, and the early votes.
	And the Democrats had a huge migration away from in-person voting.
	towards the mail.
	So we usually, Republicans would usually beat Democrats and vote by mail.
	They would usually beat Republicans in in-person early voting.
	That flipped this year.
	They had a huge advantage over the mail.
	Republicans actually did very well in early voting.
	We still had a deficit going into election day.
	It was about 108,000 more Democrat ballots than Republican ballots had been cast.
	But now what we've seen so far in election day, we're about, so we, we erase, Republicans erase that advantage by about 930 in the morning.
	Wow.
	And now there's been 220,000 more Republican ballots cast.
	than Democrat ballots.
	Obviously, with the panhandle still voting, we think that that will increase even more.
	And just to compare that, in 2016, when Donald Trump won Florida, he had about a 65,000 ballot advantage, R over D.
	And so he's gonna be in a much better position.
	And as we, when you look Florida historically, absent strange circumstances, you typically have the Republican nominee get 90 plus percent of Republicans.
	And a Democrat typically gets a point or two less in terms of holding the Democrats.
	Part of that is because we have ancestral Democrats who vote Republican in federal races still.
	So looking at him going into this, you know, I got to think he's in a stronger position.
	If you look at the turnout in Miami-Dade County, the president lost by 30 points in 2016.
	That's a big county.
	I told them if you could just cut it to 20, that's like 50,000, 60,000 votes swing.
	That could win you the state.
	What I'm hearing is it's going to be less than 20-point margin.
	He has a chance to get it into 10- to 12-point margin, and that may be best case, but the turnout has been really, really good for Republicans, Republicans, Republicans are turning out down there.
	And, you know, the way these races in Florida go is, you know, Democrats have those three really strong counties in southern Florida and smart candidates on the Republican side don't ignore him.
	You go down there and you try to reduce the margin.
	And I think the president's done that in Miami-Dade County, and I think he's going to win the state, and I think that'll be a big reason why.
	Well, obviously he does need to win the state of Florida in order to retain the presidency.
	If it goes the other way, it'll be an early night.
	So, you're talking about the timing and how fast the votes are tabulated.
	So, if we're watching tonight, what time do you think the votes are going to be all in to the point where you're going to start seeing people call the state?
	So what will happen is once the polls close, you'll get the initial dump of the early and absentee ballots, and then you'll start to get the precincts reporting with election day votes.
	So that's just the process that will take, you know, a couple hours.
	So I think best case scenario, you're looking at nine between nine and ten.
	But I definitely think we're going to be able to make the call no later than that 10 o'clock to 11 o'clock hour.
	It just depends on it.
	Look, I think things are looking favorable for the president.
	Does he win a typical Florida victory, you know, 80,000 votes or with this ballot advantage and strength Governor, do Floridians count Donald Trump as one of their own?
	Obviously, he lives in the state a great deal of the time.
	Mar-a-Lago, such a beautiful location there in Palm Beach.
	Obviously, if it's the latter, we're going to be able to determine that closer to 9 p.m. than 11 p.m.
	Governor, do Floridians count Donald Trump as one of their own?
	Obviously, he lives in the state a great deal of the time.
	Mar-a-Lago, such a beautiful location there in Palm Beach.
	How do Floridians perceive Donald Trump?
	I think that they do see a connection with Florida.
	And obviously, you do have Mar-a-Lago here.
	He goes down here in the winter and has been doing that for a long time.
	He's also been very smart in tending to Florida issues.
	Now part of it's because I call him and bug him.
	To do certain things.
	But I mean, we have certain issues here.
	Like, you know, our water resources, we're a big fishing, boating state, our Everglades restoration, some of the military bases that he's helped save.
	One of them was in the Panhandle Pope Air Force Base.
	He's been very strong on space.
	We have a huge space renaissance.
	And the space coast of Florida right now, Cape Canaveral area.
	So I think he's done a good job of tending to Florida issues.
	He's also been good on supporting democracy in Latin America, which is very important to a lot of our residents in southern Florida.
	So I think that, yes, they count them.
	But I think what he's done is he's really done things that resonate with Floridians in a way that, you know, like a Biden just wouldn't do without having that that connection.
	But I would also say, I'm a native Floridian.
	Yeah, I'm proud of it.
	But at the same time, our state's always in flux.
	I mean, you always have new people coming.
	It's just not the same.
	Being a lifelong Floridian doesn't get you as much as, say, if you were a lifelong, you know, resident of some of the other states that have a little bit more stable populations.
	Well, Ben alluded to this at the beginning.
	You've been the best governor in the country in dealing with the COVID crisis.
	Can you tell us just briefly a little bit about your philosophy on how to handle COVID, why you've been able to preserve liberty in your state in a way that many governors haven't been able to, and when you're going to run for president and when we can vote for you?
	So, you know, March, there was a lot we were still learning.
	I mean, I thought it was pretty clear by mid-March that this had a disproportionate effect on elderly.
	We focused a lot of our efforts on the nursing homes.
	Now, of course, you know, we were sending PPE.
	We were doing things like that.
	We didn't necessarily have all the testing supplies at that point.
	We did the 15 days to slow the spread and kind of just followed The president's coronavirus task force.
	But then what you started to see in April were these serological studies to show that for every documented case, there was 10 times as many actual infections, which meant a couple things.
	One, it meant that the lethality of this was less than we thought.
	And in fact, if you look under the age of 50, the survival rate is 99.98% per CDC analysis.
	But it also means that it's much more prevalent than we thought.
	You know, we thought in March there would maybe there's a COVID case in this county or three cases.
	Let's find it.
	Let's isolate it.
	Turns out that this was something that a lot of the people that had had didn't develop significant symptoms.
	It was more prevalent in the community.
	So for me, you know, I thought at that point it made sense that we needed to make sure we opened the state and move forward on that.
	We did it deliberately, but we were resolute in doing it.
	And I think what we've been able to see is The area is to look at what's happening in Europe.
	You know, you had a lot of harsh mandates, lockdowns.
	Over the summer, people were celebrating that, but really, they just had a seasonal respite, and now it's coming back.
	And so, I think you're better off with an age-specific strategy, focusing on support for our most vulnerable residents, but having society function.
	So, for example, in Florida, All 67 counties, we have school open for in-person.
	School districts, charter schools, private schools.
	In fact, of the 10 most populous school districts in the country, 5 are in Florida, all open.
	The other 5, New York City, they have about 10% of the kids in-person.
	Chicago closed.
	Los Angeles closed.
	Las Vegas closed.
	Houston, I think, has just started getting kids back.
	And I think that what's been frustrating on this is, one, it's been very political because they wanted to use it against the president, but just the lack of fidelity to data and evidence.
	I mean, on schools, it was very clear by May that schools needed to open in the fall.
	You had studies done in Europe which were conclusive, and there was literally no countervailing evidence.
	And so we pushed forward with doing that in July, saying parents have a right to send their kids to school.
	If you don't want to do it, you want to do distance, fine, but we have to do it.
	Oh my gosh, the below people were complaining, all this other stuff.
	Sure enough, we've gone into school, and the parents that opted for distance learning A lot of them are itching to get the kid back in person.
	Very few parents that opted for in-person are trying to get their kid into distance learning, but we knew that obviously the kids were not significant risk for this.
	Certainly less than flu, but we also knew they weren't significant spread for the vectors in the community.
	In fact, we have not had a single example of a student infecting a teacher.
	And I don't think very many states or countries have very many examples of that as well.
	So I just think that the data, focusing on the data, understanding that just from a health perspective, one virus is not the sum total of everything involving health.
	I mean, when you start having a myopic focus on just coronavirus at all costs, you cause problems with mental health.
	You cause problems with other ailments.
	I mean, we had people so scared in this country that they would literally be having heart attacks at home, but they wouldn't go into the emergency department because they thought they were going to get Corona and die from that.
	And that's just basically fear that was whipped up by the media irresponsibly.
	So we focused on, you know, mental health, focus on helping people who are abusing drugs, focusing on getting people into the hospital.
	I mean, the thing about that started all this, remember that the hospitals were somehow going to be overrun.
	There's not been any hospital system in the country.
	Even New York was not overrun.
	They did not use the ship.
	They did not use the Javits Center.
	And I can tell you at Florida's peak, we had about 9,600 COVID positive patients in Florida hospitals, but we have 65,000 licensed hospital beds.
	And so we never even came close to capacity.
	And the fact that that's the case, it really should inform how you do this.
	And so I think we're in a situation now where we have obviously businesses open, schools open, And really trusting people to make decisions about, you know, the environments that they're comfortable being in.
	But I think what we found is the more and more we've returned to normal, I think the more and more people appreciate it.
	Well, Governor DeSantis, really appreciate your time, and frankly, look forward to getting out of this hellhole and getting back to your wonderful state over the next couple of days, and look forward to seeing you in person there.
	Absolutely.
	Take care.
	Governor Ron DeSantis from the great state of Florida, one of the states that will have the most impact on what happens as the night goes through.
	You heard him say, importantly, that while the polls closed in the eastern time zone in Florida five minutes ago, the polls do not close in the panhandle until an hour from now.
	And if you're standing in line in Florida, you will still get in to vote.
	So if you're in line, stay in line.
	Don't forfeit your right to register your choice in this election.
	That's something I've actually been harping on a lot on Twitter.
	A lot of my friends will say, I voted for Donald Trump.
	Don't blame me.
	I voted for Donald Trump.
	And I'll say, oh, that's great.
	When you voted for him, who'd you vote for for congressman?
	Well, I mean, I didn't actually vote for him.
	I mean, I support him.
	I mean, he's my guy.
	I got a bumper sticker on my pickup truck.
	I'm like, no, no, no, no.
	To vote.
	It comes from the Latin votum, which means get off your sorry ass and go register your choice on a ballot.
	As in, I like Donald Trump.
	I shall go and votum for him.
	In Latin, that's how you say it.
	That was good.
	Good pronunciation.
	So please.
	If you're in line in Florida, stay in line in Florida.
	If you're in line anywhere in the country when your polling place closes, stay where you are.
	Make sure that your vote is counted tonight.
	Can I just comment for just a minute on the governor, what this stuff he was saying, just from a kind of sensory point of view.
	Yes.
	I have been listening to the left talk about Donald Trump.
	Joe Biden said this.
	He is the virus.
	Right.
	And I keep thinking, gosh, these people sound like children.
	Is that me?
	You know, I mean, am I just hearing this kind of toddler logic where Donald Trump is the big man, so he must be spreading the disease?
	The sound of that guy was so adult and so rational, and the words coming out of his mouth made so much sense that I thought, no, they actually are children.
	Well, more than even children, honestly, they have a cult-like religious fervor around Trump.
	It really is.
	It really is that they believe, and they've made this clear, that Trump is the devil.
	It is that.
	It is.
	It is that.
	It is.
	Trump is this sort of cloud that follows pig pen around in the Peanuts comic.
	And if you get rid of Trump, then COVID magically goes away.
	That's why over the last 48 hours, 72 hours, Joe Biden's final pitch was, I'm not really kidding, that he was going to be your parent, the Pope, if you're like Michael, or God.
	It was those three things.
	He literally said that if he's elected, he will treat you like members of his family.
	I thought, excellent.
	I can now pick up bags of cash in Ukraine and China.
	He also suggested that he was going to save our collective soul, which is, if I have to hear that crap from one more politician that you're going to save my soul.
	The 78-year-old geriatric can't put a sentence together, lifelong corrupt bureaucrat who shifted every major position he ever held, including one where he used to be pro-life to pro-choice.
	That guy's going to save my soul.
	And then his final pitch was that he was going to crush the virus, right?
	I'm not going to crush the economy.
	I'm not gonna crush it.
	I'm not gonna crush your hopes.
	I'm gonna crush the virus.
	Really?
	With your foot or what?
	I feel like Hillary Clinton with a cloth.
	It's so small.
	Smack!
	The virus is gone.
	And I thought to myself, this is Captain Moonshot to kill cancer, as though people aren't trying to kill cancer.
	Enormous religious faith that is invested in the power of government by so many people on the left is sickening, it is wrong, it is counterproductive, and it is childish and cold.
	But you know why that is.
	I mean, I mean, DeSantis is saying something perfectly obvious.
	You can't crush the virus.
	All you can do is deal with it and protect the most vulnerable.
	That used to be how we all dealt with medical problems, was it not?
	Yeah.
	But the reason why, of course, is that everybody's got to serve somebody.
	So you'll always hear the left talk about religious kooks, the left which believes that babies aren't human and believes that men can be women and believes the world is going to end in 10 years.
	So you do have a natural religious longing and you put it on this guy.
	I mean, this has been going on for a very long time in this country.
	And most recently, I guess, Barack Obama, who said that the earth would heal and the oceans would lower if you elect him.
	And Michelle said he was going to take out our heart of stone and replace it with a heart of flesh, basically.
	That's right.
	That really did.
	Yes.
	Isn't that one of the Indiana Jones movies?
	Yeah.
	You know, the statement that Biden made that I thought was most shocking in a campaign of shocking and mostly incomprehensible statements was when he came out and he said that if I had been president, 220,000 Americans would be alive.
	That no one would have died.
	That America, unlike every other country on earth, would have no deaths from the virus.
	And if you believe that, then Donald Trump really must be the virus.
	I wish that President Trump had asked Biden, hey Joe, if you had been president, can you give me a number?
	Can you give me a specific number?
	That's right.
	100,000?
	And unfortunately, we didn't get that hit in.
	You would have gotten the crappy soundbite, not nearly as many as died under you, but that's not the answer, right?
	The answer is how many people?
	So, the early polls on the East Coast are starting to close.
	I want to go to our Daily Wire Election War Room, where Elisha and John Bickley are going to give us a little bit of analysis about what we can expect next.
	Some of those states have already been called, unsurprisingly of course, Vermont and Virginia going to Biden and Harris.
	Once again, that's unsurprising.
	And the polls just closed in Florida, and here for a breakdown of what we need to be looking for in Florida is the Daily Wire's own Ian Howarth.
	Ian.
	What are we looking at?
	What's the lay of the land in Florida, 2016 versus 2020, laid out there for us?
	So people, when they think about Florida, they think of a few things.
	They think of always a closely run race.
	So 2000, it took a month of legal wrangling to sort that mess out.
	2012, they were the only state to actually decide by under 1% between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.
	Wow.
	So it's always close.
	People think about Florida as like MAGA country, but Trump only won by 1.6% in 2016.
	So we can assume it's going to be very close.
	It's really also, as I spoke with Cabot earlier, it's one of the crucial states that Trump just simply has to win if he wants to have a home.
	So what parts of the state should we be paying attention to?
	Is it those metropolitan areas?
	Is it the panhandle?
	What are you looking at?
	So I think we should keep an eye on the panhandle, the north of the state, because he has to have a big turnout there.
	That's almost assumed.
	I think given the parades we see, those boat parades, I went in a boat parade.
	Really fun.
	So we need to then be focusing on the bluer areas towards Miami-Dade, Broward County.
	Those are counties where Hillary Clinton won by almost 300,000 votes in each county.
	She's still lost.
	So Democrats will be hoping for a huge voter turnout there.
	It's actually been kind of interesting in terms of turnout.
	Early polls suggested that the Republicans were actually having better turnout proportionally compared to Democrats.
	But other polls are coming in and saying that Democrats are actually outpacing Republicans as the day went on.
	So it's really hard to tell.
	And then also in 2016, Donald Trump was able to outperform even the polls of what they thought he might get in the Cuban American community.
	Could that help him make up some of those, you know, pretty liberal places because Cuban Americans tend to reside in that Palm Beach, Dade County, Miami area?
	Yeah, I think that'll be a huge community that he'll be certainly looking at quite closely.
	In 2016, he got between 50 and 54% of the Cuban American vote.
	This year, some polls suggest it's actually going to be near 60%.
	Oh, wow.
	If that's true, that's going to be a huge deal for Trump.
	If it's not true, then he's going to really have to pull some votes out of somewhere.
	Okay, so we will be continuing to bring all of y'all the information as people are calling states and polls are closing everywhere.
	A lot of people are paying attention to the trend of Florida, though, because if President Trump and Mike Pence can't pull it out in Florida, You know, their pathway to victory just continues to get smaller and smaller.
	So when we have more updates, we'll be bringing those to all of y'all.
	Thank you, Ian.
	And thank you, Alicia.
	So I've been telling you guys all night that we're going to have some big announcements tonight, and they're all focused on the exact same issue, which is that we have to replace The media.
	You have this establishment media in this country in connection, in conjunction with social media in this country, deciding what kind of stories you get to hear and what kind of stories you don't.
	What kind of expression you get to have and what kind of expression you don't.
	And I don't think we've done enough to communicate the scope of the problem.
	The New York Times is essential.
	Even for us, the New York Times is essential.
	The New York Times has 4,500 employees.
	They have 1,600 active journalists.
	They have a budget of $1.2 billion a year.
	They do over $100 million of profit every year.
	You want to know why conservatives aren't great at investigative journalism?
	You want to know why conservatives are at such a disadvantage when it comes to subjecting the left to the kind of scrutiny that the left subjects us to?
	That's because the New York Times is only one piece of the establishment media juggernaut.
	There is nothing like that that exists on the right.
	Now, you might say, right, but you're saying there's nothing like it on the right.
	There's nothing like it on the left either.
	The New York Times is mainstream.
	They're in the middle.
	They are not in the middle.
	There's more diversity of opinion at the Daily Wire about Donald Trump than there is in the entire 4,500-person staff of the New York Times, where there is no diversity of opinion about Donald Trump.
	Name one single prominent pro-Trump, Republican, conservative voice at the New York Times.
	4,500 employees!
	I'm not asking for 1%.
	I'm asking for a single person.
	You cannot do it.
	It does not exist.
	That's how badly they have us outmaneuvered.
	The way that we're going to deal with that is to replace them.
	End your subscription to the New York Times.
	End your subscription to the Washington Post.
	End your, uh, cut your cable.
	Cut the cord.
	You know that some of the money of your cable bill goes to CNN, whether you watch CNN or not.
	Some of the money you pay for cable goes to MSNBC, whether you watch MSNBC or not, because of carriage fees.
	You are funding the left as they try to take your freedoms away from you.
	The only way we're going to stop that is to replace them.
	And to replace them, we on our side of the ideological divide have to up our game.
	Part of that means we have to get out and lead, and part of it means we need you to follow.
	We need your support.
	We need your help.
	So, Daily Wire is going to start taking The lead in this fight in ways that we have not before.
	We have a ton of huge announcements coming for you tonight, and the first one is going to come courtesy of our guest.
	Candace Owens.
	Candace is the founder of the Blexit Foundation.
	Candace is the host of the Candace Owens Show for PragerU.
	She's one of the most important, not only political, but I would say cultural voices in the country today.
	She's beaming in from Washington D.C.
	because, I'm just going to be honest with you, we can't afford to get Candace to L.A.
	because she moves all over the world, all the time.
	She's busy doing the work of not just commenting on culture, but creating culture And changing culture.
	She's here with us tonight.
	We couldn't be more thrilled to have her.
	Candace, are you with us?
	I am with you.
	Hey, there's Candace!
	How's it going?
	Hello!
	So we're hearing reports right now about rioting taking place in Washington, D.C.
	So the first question is, are you safe?
	I am safe.
	I am safe right now in the studio.
	But I will tell you, just leading up to this, the last couple of days, watching all the boarding going up, and here's what's really remarkable.
	On a lot of these stores and on these boards, they're actually writing, we support Black Lives Matter.
	And you have to ask yourself, why would a business owner first board up his business and then write, we support Black Lives Matter?
	And the answer is simple.
	It's because they recognize that it is Black Lives Matter, it is Antifa, it is the left that is doing these riots.
	And I actually have a friend who runs a gym and he tells me that he puts a sign in his window that says, we support Black Lives Matter.
	And I know he does not support Black Lives Matter.
	He is not left-leaning.
	He is a Republican.
	But he does that because today, that for business owners is like putting up like Sloman Shield, you know?
	Please don't riot.
	Please don't bring us down.
	We support you.
	And it's very sad that we've gotten to this point.
	And then just getting to this studio.
	I don't live too far from the studio.
	It should have been a five minute drive.
	It took 30 minutes because of street closures, because of riots.
	I mean, the left is ready to go and they've been planning this.
	For months and months.
	And my question, I guess, that I would ask is, how come the FBI hasn't been able to shut down this cell?
	How have they been able to coordinate this?
	How are they bringing U-Hauls and metal bats and all of these things of this nature?
	So it's incredibly frustrating that it's come to this point.
	We should have been able to suspect this and to guard against it.
	But D.C.
	is really, really scary right now.
	We just know that we're going to expect a lot later on in the night.
	Yeah, it's really remarkable that, to your point, that the FBI hasn't been able to get on top of that.
	And I kind of want to kick that around and have it as a discussion with the five of us.
	Is the reason, I mean, obviously one reason is that free speech is is sacred in this country.
	And so you expect our law enforcement to get the maximum latitude possible, right?
	You want them to err on the side of letting people overexpress and not underexpress.
	But given what we've seen in the country in the wake of the George Floyd killing, given what we've seen in the Chas chop zone in Seattle, the constant burning of Portland, the burning of Minneapolis has been going on for months and months.
	Why is it That the federal law enforcement hasn't been more proactive in cracking down on this.
	It's a really good question because when Donald Trump announced that he was going to enforce the law against pulling over statues and vandalism, that largely stopped.
	That was a big movement and it largely went away.
	And you know, the FBI sent out something like a dozen agents to investigate what turned out to be a hoax.
	attack on a black NASCAR driver as if there was some major civil rights problem there, which there wasn't.
	And yet they can't seem to infiltrate or at least start to discourage these people.
	I have to I have faith.
	I have faith that the FBI is on it, that they're looking at it.
	I don't think the FBI is totally gone.
	I think obviously they're under James Comey.
	Their leadership was corrupted.
	But I don't think that the agents are corrupt.
	But you know, I hope that they're working.
	Yeah, Michael, is it is it is it that they're complicit?
	Is it a deep state conspiracy against the president?
	Yes.
	Or is it strategic on the part of the president?
	That's it.
	It's that they're complicit.
	I've talked to friends of mine who are in the administration, who have worked at some of these various swamp agencies in the deep state, and you can go agency by agency and know their ideological leanings.
	Now, you might say agencies aren't supposed to have ideological leanings, but they do.
	And we always joke about the State Department, for instance, is always pretty far left.
	But you can go down the line.
	FBI, CIA, all the various Alphabet agencies.
	And they have consistently undermined the president.
	And part of this, by the way, might not be some nefarious tinfoil hat conspiracy.
	Part of this is that people at those agencies just happen to share the views of Black Lives Matter or Antifa or of the Democratic Party.
	I guess they're basically all the same thing now.
	And so it's very difficult to root that out because the president gets elected.
	He's there for four years or hopefully eight years.
	But the agencies are so deep.
	I'll give you an example.
	Do you know how many people are employed by the Department of Homeland Security?
	Quarter million people.
	It's only existed for 16 years.
	Almost 20 years now, but you're right, 16 to 20 years.
	And it's that large.
	It's taken in other agencies.
	That's the tip of the iceberg on this federal bureaucracy.
	So the problem runs very, very deep.
	Do you buy it?
	Honestly, I find it a less interesting question, because you can speculate all day as to what closed agencies are doing behind closed doors.
	I have no clue, and I'm not going to pretend I have a clue.
	What I find a lot more troubling is the fact that the entire media and Democratic Party apparatus continue to cover for this bullcrap and then suggest that we're wrong for even wanting to ask questions about it.
	That if you even question whether Black Lives Matter has violent connections and why so many of these protests turn into riots, this is because you are not sufficiently anti-racist.
	Or you have Joe Biden suggesting that Antifa is a philosophy rather than actual group.
	I mean, that's more troubling considering we're in an election year.
	I mean, the politicization of the intelligence agencies has been an ongoing issue, but having a party overtly embrace this crap I think is a much, much bigger issue.
	I know Candace has talked about that at length.
	Candace, listen, one of the things we love about you at The Daily Wire is that you're a cultural figure, and I know that only talking to you about race issues is actually a waste of your insight, but I do think it's important in this particular election to talk about the work that you've done with Blexit.
	There's a lot of talk, especially on the right, about how we might see A major swing in not only the black men in particular voting for the president, but also the Hispanic population, something that Ben has observed firsthand, happening down in Florida.
	You probably have your finger on the temperature of that movement more than anybody else in the country.
	What do you think happens tonight?
	Are we going to see something historic?
	Are we going to see something different than what we've seen in the past?
	Absolutely.
	And so first off, I will say, how remarkable is it to consider that over the last four years, the left could not have harped on race harder?
	I mean, how many times, if we actually had a ticker, like we have the COVID-19 death ticker, if we had a racism ticker on CNN and MSNBC, every time they said the word racist, what would the number be?
	Seriously?
	I mean, it's a hard question, right?
	And yet, despite that, despite that, They are acknowledging that Black American support is shifting towards the Republican Party, is shifting towards President Trump.
	That's a very dangerous spot for Democrats to be in, of course, because they cannot, they have to at least get 85% of the Black vote to sustain their party.
	And I've always felt, I instantly said, in 2020, I think Trump can get 20 points, and people thought that was a pipe dream.
	And it was never a pipe dream.
	It was just so obvious.
	You just needed somebody to actually communicate to black Americans in a cultural manner, which is what I've tried to do.
	What is actually going on?
	We've been married to this party for 70 years and nothing has changed.
	And the problem is that I think Republican Party for a really long time, it's almost like they're suffering PTSD.
	You guys have been called racist for so long.
	That, you know, now when somebody calls you racist, you just let them shut down the conversation.
	And it needed to be somebody like Donald Trump, because he's the only person I know that he gets called racist and he doubles down on whatever it is he said, right?
	Black America, what do you have to lose?
	Remember they all freaked out and said, oh my goodness, how could he possibly say that?
	It's so racist.
	And now it's his favorite thing to say in front of minority crowds.
	Black America, I asked you in 2016, what do you have to lose?
	And clearly the answer was nothing.
	I did see an article two days ago which made me really happy about black men between the ages of 25 and 35.
	They're already calling them chauvinists.
	They're saying the reason they're getting behind Trump is because they're chauvinists.
	So black men, welcome to the Republican Party when you kind of just collect the ists of sexist misogynists.
	I say it's like a game of Pokemon.
	I've got to catch them all.
	I didn't expect to get the white supremacist one.
	I got that one randomly in a news article.
	I was like, wow.
	I'm really winning the leftist Pokemon game.
	But yeah, so the polls a couple of weeks ago said 8% black support unmoved.
	And I was like, you have got to be kidding me.
	Now they're saying 14%.
	And I think it's going to be a little bit higher, which is going to be, it's going to be a game changer.
	It's going to be the first opportunity for the Republican Party to win back the black vote.
	Well, if that does happen, you're going to be one of the most important people in the country because you, more than any other person other than the President himself, have devoted so much of your attention to that issue.
	I do think we have to give some credit to the President on this as well.
	I don't like to use terms like outreach to the black community.
	I mean, you're talking about Americans, outreach.
	It's absurd.
	But what Donald Trump has done that I think Republicans have been afraid to do in the past is he actually just talks to people who might hate him.
	And I think he's able to do that because so many people hate him.
	He's actually comfortable in environments where people aren't kind to him because he's accustomed, even just being a Builder in New York, probably his entire life he's been talking to people who don't necessarily like him and trying to find common cause with him.
	And he's done a fairly remarkable job.
	I mean, when you talk about communities in the United States who have just gotten bullshit from politicians for decades.
	Yeah.
	And the black community in the United States has gotten bullshit from politicians literally since the beginnings of the country.
	And Donald Trump, when he talks to people, there's not tons of bullshit.
	I mean, and cutting through it and speaking the way that he does, I think actually translates really well.
	The non-politician aspect of Trump speaks very differently than the same typical political speak that you get from every other politician who gets in front of that crowd.
	And so does what Candace mentioned, his thick skin, which is part of some of the things that maybe we dislike about him sometimes, but it's also one of the reasons he is where he is.
	You have to have, you have to take on the left.
	Think of the massiveness of the legacy media.
	Think of how the corporate power of the legacy media, and this guy has been standing up against them all by his lonesome for four years, and he has just kind of eaten it up and spit it out.
	And this is the hardest thing, because America is a country that has reckoned with its historic racism, and we don't want to go there again, and so we're sensitive to the charge.
	And the left has used that to batter people into submission, and only Trump's... - Yeah.
	Turtle shell of a skin could withstand.
	Well, you saw it just the other day with Chelsea Handler, right?
	When, I don't know how President Trump is doing among the black community, but he's totally killing it among the rap community.
	Kanye, Lil Pump, Lil Wayne, and 50 Cent.
	And so 50 Cent comes out and says, yeah, okay, I like Trump.
	I don't want to be 20 Cent.
	And Chelsea Handler said, I couldn't believe the words came out of her mouth.
	She said, I had to remind him that he was a black man.
	And she did.
	And then she also offered him some sort of favors if he voted for Biden.
	We kind of did.
	But anyway, I don't want to get into it.
	But it is unbelievable.
	Could you imagine a political coalition ten years ago, five years ago, where you've got an Amish parade and a rapper parade going on side by side?
	I can imagine a political coalition with an Orthodox Jew and a platinum best-selling rapper in the same coalition for Donald Trump and in this room.
	It's true.
	One of the things I love about our team here at The Daily Wire is just how different we all are, and yet we have this kind of community that I think other publications don't like.
	It's actually, you know, when we were planning this show, We thought, well, we want to do as good a job as, say, Fox News at bringing people information.
	And now, I don't want to, you know, they can go down to the precinct level, so I don't want to say that we fully succeeded at that.
	But we set a high goal for ourselves.
	We're going to bring people the best, deepest, most up-to-date information that we can through the night.
	But we also want to really focus on what makes us us, what makes us unique, what makes us Other than cable news.
	And a big part of that is just this.
	You're smoking a cigar.
	We're having conversation that might be a little unorthodox.
	Things that you may not be able to get away with saying on cable.
	Things that advertisers might boycott you over.
	But part of that is because there's so much about us as a group that is unique.
	You brought it up, Ben.
	You're a very religious, from Orthodox Jew.
	You've got Drew, who's documented his conversion from sort of secular Judaism to faithful Christianity.
	You have Michael Knowles, who we all remember when he wasn't Catholic, but now he's very... He's like the biggest papist we know.
	Yeah, the reverts go really hardcore.
	More Catholic than the Pope doesn't mean what it used to, but he's still...
	I'm essentially a Protestant cult leader.
	You see some of this too, not just on the religious side, not just on the political side.
	You have Candace, who's actually quite close to the president.
	You have Ben and I, who were major Trump skeptics in 2016.
	You have the two of you who supported the president in 2016.
	You have Michael who not only supports... You have Michael who actually just wishes that he was as successful as Candace at being friends with the president.
	Yeah, why won't he call me back?
	I call him all the time.
	Candace, can you send him my texts?
	And that we're not afraid to engage in these ideas in a way that's friendly.
	And one thing that Candace has that none of us have that I think is an important part of that is an actual foothold in the culture.
	So, you know, somebody told me this week that I'm not famous, and it kind of hurt my feelings because I'm at least like a P-list internet celebrity.
	You have a checkmark?
	I got a blue checkmark.
	What do you want from me?
	You've got Ben, who's extraordinarily famous.
	We've done these market surveys that Where Ben, I'll brag on you for a minute, where Ben's the most famous conservative in the country in terms of social engagement.
	He's higher than like the entire primetime box.
	Candace is something, Candace, you're something that none of us are, which is not, it's not famous, it's celebrity.
	You've actually managed to become a cultural figure in a way that in my lifetime, no conservative, no one who, let's say it differently, no one who started in the political sphere as a conservative pundit has been able to cross over into being a political celebrity.
	You have people who've moved the other direction, people who were like, they used to have a big acting career, and then the parts stopped coming in, and then they realized they could talk about politics.
	They used to be reality TV stars and then became president.
	Yeah, for instance.
	For example, you've uniquely been able to cross that bridge the other way.
	I'm I'm very curious what that's like.
	I mean, you kind of live a life that the rest of us will probably never get to live.
	How are you received when you, and you don't have to name names, but how are you received behind the scenes when you deal with other people who are sort of cultural celebrities?
	Is there more support out there than it seems like there is?
	There definitely is, and I'll say this.
	Everything that I did was much more strategic and people really gave me credit for.
	I mean, I had to sort of sit down and when I had, you know, my come-to moment when I was like, I lived my entire life as a lie.
	I bought into the Democrat propaganda, the education system propaganda, and I emerged as a person who graduated high school and genuinely believed that Republicans were racist, that conservatives were racist.
	I'm a pretty smart girl, so this stuff, it wasn't something that I came up with on my own.
	It was actively taught to me.
	And so when I wanted to dabble into politics, the first thing I asked myself was, how did the left do this to me?
	And I wanted to intentionally, with intention, reverse-engineer exactly what it was that deluded me to begin with.
	And I understood how important culture was.
	And Republicans and conservatives had just given up on culture.
	And virtually everything you've seen, and you sort of hit at this earlier, Jeremy, but everything you see on TV is done at the expense of conservatives.
	And I think for that reason, a lot of conservatives began to stick up their nose to culture and say, OK, we're just not going to do culture.
	And we're just going to be the smart guys.
	And I thought to myself, we have to be both, actually.
	And I want to be funny.
	I do.
	I love culture.
	I love music.
	And, you know, I get it.
	I get why people like rap music.
	I know Ben doesn't like rap music.
	I get a fantastic rap artist.
	I am an incredible rap artist.
	In fact, I can take the lyrics of others and translate them in a way no one would have thought possible.
	You were really good in WAP.
	I will say WAP Daily Wire Edition should be put down a little better.
	The ladies appreciate it.
	What can I say?
	One of the things you said to me recently, Candace, that I found really interesting, you said, I don't want people to know if I'm about to run for president or to drop a rap album.
	I do think that volatility is part of what gives you the ability to do the things that you do.
	By volatility, I mean that people don't know what to expect, right?
	Right, and that's exactly how I feel because I love so much of it and I think that both of it is really important and I think Andrew Breitbart was right years ago when he said politics is downstream from culture and we have to make sure that we're sort of connecting that.
	And I've always wanted to exist as a conduit and I will say, to answer your earlier question, behind closed doors it is incredible.
	I mean, I wish I could publish a list of the A-list celebrities that I'm in communication with all around the world.
	I mean, not just in America.
	Obviously, my husband's British.
	In England, you would just be shocked and go, oh my goodness, we're all really doing something.
	They know all of us.
	They follow Ben Shapiro.
	They follow Daily Wire.
	You know, they're downloading the podcast.
	But do they know me?
	It's incredible.
	They know you specifically.
	They bring you up first.
	Yeah, you first.
	And so we're having a huge impact, and I think that because I've been sort of in between, they feel comfortable reaching out to me to have these sort of private meetings behind closed doors, and I wish more of them would come out, you know, ahead of today.
	They're not going to, but I think you're going to expect a lot more A-listers after tonight is decided to come out in the next few months and really say what they believe.
	And I think what you're doing is so important, and the only thing that would make it cooler is if you did it with us.
	Me?
	A woman joining the Daily Wire team?
	Yeah, wait a minute.
	Yeah, I'm second.
	The man's club?
	I mean, if I will.
	What was that?
	I said if any woman were going to be invited, it's you!
	Come be Daily Wire.
	I think 100% I will take you up on that offer if my slogan can be, feelings don't care about your facts.
	I love it.
	I love that.
	That sounds like a deal.
	I'm not kidding though, why don't you come join the Daily Wire?
	I would love to join the Daily Wire.
	I think there is a lot of stuff we could do together.
	Should we make it official on election night, America?
	Am I joining the Daily Wire?
	Is it real?
	Ben Shapiro, to you first.
	Absolutely.
	Let's do this.
	Michael Knowles, what do you think?
	This is the most formal way, by the way, Jeremy's ever done business.
	Usually it's just over like three drinks at a bar, but at least now he'll do it in a casual conversation.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Come join us, Candace.
	Andrew.
	I've been lobbying for this for many, many years, Candace.
	Please come over.
	Save us.
	Save us.
	Oh my gosh, well then, it is a done deal on election night.
	This might be bigger than the results that come in.
	Candace Owens is coming to Nashville, baby!
	Alright!
	See, I told you we were going to break some news tonight.
	Candace is going to make the move with us to Nashville.
	And Candace, I don't want to tell people too much about what we're working on.
	This actually isn't a joke, guys.
	No, this is not a joke.
	Well, I mean, it's no more of a joke than our...
	Everything else we do.
	We are working on a show together.
	Candace and I have been collaborating about this behind the scenes that will be unlike, not only unlike anything that's happened at The Daily Wire, I think truly different in kind from anything that's ever happened in conservative new media.
	We're not going to give you too many details because it's going to, you know, we want it to be impactful when it happens.
	I'll give you the one hint, though.
	It's going to be shot in front of a live studio audience in Nashville, and you're going to be able to see it at the beginning of March.
	Candace, we couldn't be more excited to have you on the team.
	I'm so excited.
	I think the time is now.
	The energy feels right.
	I've been saying for years at Conservatives, we're all doing different things.
	We need to all come together under the same umbrella and just, you know, fight back for culture.
	I mean, people are paying attention to us.
	I know Ben Shapiro gets more downloads.
	Michael Mills gets more downloads.
	We're bigger than CNN.
	We're bigger.
	We're bigger than all of MSNBC.
	But we're not united, and it's high time.
	So I couldn't be more excited.
	I wish we could unveil more about what we've been working on.
	It's going to be really good, guys.
	2021 is going to be Well, thank you so much for making time for us tonight.
	I know that you're in D.C.
	You're probably invited to all kinds of parties that we'll never be invited to.
	Let's hope that we're able to lift a glass later tonight and celebrate a huge Trump victory.
	And we'll be telling people more and more about what we're working on together over the coming weeks.
	Thank you, Candace.
	Thank you guys so much.
	I'm going to lift a glass to Candace now.
	Hey, to Candace.
	Good.
	Chin, chin.
	All right.
	So that is the first of our big announcements for the night.
	Candace Owens moving to Nashville, joining the Daily Wire.
	We are going to replace the media.
	That doesn't just mean replacing the media in terms of investigative journalism.
	It doesn't just mean replacing the media in terms of cultural commentary.
	It means we have to make culture.
	We have to make the kinds of shows that they make.
	We have to engage in Fiction.
	We have to engage in talk shows.
	We have to engage in a broad swath of content that reaches people where they are.
	And that's what we're going to be doing, both with Candace and in some other exciting announcements that we'll be making for you as the night goes on.
	But right now, the polls have been closed on the East Coast for 37 minutes.
	We know you're looking for an update on what's happening.
	We are going to kick it to Elisha Krauss in the Daily Wire Election War Room.
	Hopefully they're going to be able to walk us through some of what's been going on while we've been busy celebrating ourselves.
	And celebrating our newest addition in Candace Owens, who, again, pinpointed this out.
	I think it's important that you know, not a joke.
	Candace is actually joining us in Nashville for what is going to be just a truly, I mean, revolutionary kind of change in the kind of content that you can come to expect in conservative media and Best of all, only one of the huge announcements that we have for you tonight.
	So guys, we're about to kick it to the war room and hear what's going on in the country.
	But what are we seeing though first out on social media?
	Are there any states reporting that are critical to the questions that we're asking tonight?
	Yeah, so we have some updates here with Cabot, actually.
	One of the editors at the Daily Wire.
	Cabot, good.
	I mean, we've been together all day long.
	Three hours.
	It wasn't enough.
	Longer than that.
	A few hours I had to spend in hair and makeup.
	You were there with me.
	So, what are some of the updates that are coming from the cable news networks as those East Coast polls are closing like Jeremy just laid out?
	Yeah, so right now Florida is over 60% reporting.
	Fox News currently has President Trump trailing by about 1.4% in Florida.
	Some people are sharing around the New York Times projections now has President Trump at 96% to win Florida with the remaining votes that are left about 40% left.
	Okay.
	So people are kicking that around saying well New York Times already predicting essentially 96% chance of him winning Florida.
	A lot of time to go, still a lot of people in line.
	As long as you're in line you can still vote when the election or the polls close.
	Georgia President Trump is down about 2%.
	Only 15% reporting, so it's going to be a long night ahead.
	And so that's where we are right now.
	No big surprises yet in the states that have been called.
	Virginia has been called by Fox News for Joe Biden.
	A few other outlets have not called it yet, but besides Virginia being called by Fox News, there haven't been any big surprises in anything called.
	Okay, and the thing that I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised about is if we can go home tonight, and I mean, thank God we're on the West Coast, but we're all still pretty tired of, you know, and we're wondering how long it's going to be.
	How long are we going to be there here?
	How long is it going to be drawn out?
	And everyone's been contemplating, is this going to be a contested election?
	And as we talked about with Ian earlier, we have a history of contested elections.
	Yeah, sometimes I don't... Actually, sometimes I do relish being the bearer of bad news.
	This is not one of those times.
	In this case, the bad news is that there's a very high likelihood that we're not going to know the true results tonight, especially if President Trump is performing better than some had expected, which we...
	It does look like it's happening right now.
	So I'm going to walk you through a few scenarios of what it looks like if we don't have the results tonight, starting from most likely to least likely.
	Most likely is we're going to see some recounts.
	So in 20 states across the country, if the final vote tally is under 1%, an automatic recount is triggered.
	And that includes Arizona, Florida, and Ohio.
	Under 1%, automatic recount is triggered.
	So that is something that we should certainly expect to see in some of those states.
	Now, it could be out of the hand anyway.
	It could be a situation where one candidate has such a big lead where the recount doesn't really matter at the end of the day.
	We already know.
	But anyways, in 42 states, candidates can demand a recount if there isn't one automatically triggered.
	And in a few other states, lawsuits can happen, where if a candidate has clear proof of some sort of election malpractice, dumped ballots, that kind of thing, if they have clear evidence of it, they can sue the state to try and get some kind of injunction going on there.
	And the least likely scenario, but the one I still like to bring up, is congressional intervention.
	If there is no clear winner that is chosen by the Electoral College by December 6th, Congress will intervene, they step in, and they will help choose the winner.
	It's something we saw back in 2000, Bush and Gore in Florida.
	Okay, so we have a month.
	Do you think we're truly a month out?
	I don't think we're a month out.
	I'm optimistic we'll have some clear examples of what the race is looking like, hopefully within the next few days, but I don't think people should necessarily expect to know exactly what's going to happen tonight because this is an incredibly close race.
	Hard to overstate just how close the results are right now that we're seeing coming in.
	And we've heard both candidates talk about how they have those legal teams ready to go.
	Exactly.
	The candidates have flexed their legal muscles, something that's a weird thing to envision in your mind.
	But they have made clear that if the results are close, especially in some of those key battleground states, that they will be demanding recounts if there isn't an automatic one, that they are willing to go to court to sue to make sure that happens.
	Keep an eye on that.
	But again, the race so far, tightening up in Florida and Georgia.
	Those are the two main states we're keeping an eye on in the War Room right now.
	All right.
	Also, North Carolina, Michigan, a few of those other... Pennsylvania, a few of those other battlegrounds.
	Ohio, the polls just closed.
	Like I said, we're on the West Coast.
	We're keeping an eye on everything that's happening.
	And one more thing I will add, both candidates encouraging all their supporters, telling them if you're in line, stay in line.
	We'll do the same thing here at the Data Wire.
	For anyone listening or watching that's in line, stay in line because you can vote even if the polls are closed.
	Okay, and as we get those poll results that are coming in and being solidified, we'll continue to bring those to you guys.
	Excellent.
	Okay, so a couple of quick things.
	One, the Miami-Dade margin in Florida is excellent news for President Trump.
	Trump got 334,000 votes in Miami-Dade in all of 2016.
	He already has more than 450,000 votes in Miami-Dade.
	Cubans are showing up en masse in Miami-Dade.
	He's doing extraordinarily well there.
	Biden was supposed to win Miami-Dade by some 30 points.
	That's what Hillary won by last time.
	He's really winning it by like 10 this time, which is bad news for Biden.
	So it looks like a very good shot that Trump takes Florida as expected.
	Also, it looks like a fairly good shot that Trump takes Georgia as expected, if we are to trust The famous New York Times needle.
	Now, quick reminder for you.
	We just had on Candace Owens and Jeremy, as this is one, played it as a joke.
	This was a silly move.
	The reason this is a silly move is because it's an actual thing.
	Real Candace Owens is, in fact, joining Daily Wire.
	She'll be having a show here.
	We can't wait for it.
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	You know who else is changing the face of media as we know it?
	Over on the right is our good friend, Megyn Kelly, who launched a podcast.
	And this is what I love about Megyn Kelly.
	When she decides to do something like take 2016, for example, she decided to walk down the hall.
	Girl knows how to walk down the hall with purpose, change the game.
	That's what she's doing now with podcasts.
	Megan, we're so glad that you're with us and we love your new podcast.
	It's fabulous.
	Hey guys, thank you so much.
	Thank you for helping me to promote it and for being such good and faithful backers of it from the time it was in its little embryonic stage.
	Well, it's been kind of a treat for us to get to talk to you behind the scenes and watch you give birth to this thing and to see its success right out of the gate.
	It's really a wonderful thing.
	I think this, you know, it's a really freeing thing to engage in the podcast.
	I'm sure coming off of being in the more restrictive environment of television, I think it'll give you the opportunity to say all the things that you want to say.
	And you're already doing that and doing it very well.
	So welcome aboard.
	Let's talk about the election.
	So I want to ask, first of all, since you've spent so much time in the media covering this stuff, I believe that the media have been worth 8 to 10 points for Joe Biden in this race.
	The media seems to have given up on any pretense of objective journalism.
	Since you've worked in the halls of the media, not just at Fox News, but obviously at Network News, what do you make of what looks like the decline of establishment journalism?
	I mean, I think it's done.
	I did a little Talking Points memo on my podcast today.
	It's already our most downloaded we've had yet, talking about how the media committed suicide and Trump was there cavorting.
	You know, he didn't kill them.
	He helped them along.
	They willingly jumped right off that bridge.
	They did it to themselves.
	And it's been, I don't even want to say it's been sad for me to watch.
	It's just been kind of disgusting for me to watch.
	Because they've been trying to take him out from day one.
	And look, I wasn't exactly in love with President Trump four years ago and he kept coming after me.
	But I'll tell you something, the thing that helped me really see him clearly and be able to analyze him with objectivity and fairly was them.
	Was how much the media hated him and how against him they were.
	And then you know how it is.
	It's like you have to rise up, be your strongest self and and put the most clear, focused lens on the guy.
	So people have someone they can listen to who's not determined to be part of the resistance in bringing him down.
	I just think it was a complete shirking of journalistic responsibility.
	Their credibility is gone and they cannot get it back.
	And I'll tell you one reason why it's problematic.
	COVID.
	Remember when you were coming out there and they were trying to tell us, like, aren't you listening to us?
	where the media were telling you it was dangerous.
	And we were all at home like, screw you.
	You've lied so many times.
	Take the Covington case, Jussie Smollett, all the lies about Trump, Russiagate, Ukraine.
	We no longer believe you.
	And then you've got Trump, on the other hand, who doesn't have an adult relationship with the truth, out there telling us all sorts of facts that are not facts about COVID.
	And it's just so frustrating, right?
	You're like, What's going on?
	This is something I really want to know the truth on.
	Anyway, so, hence life in the digital lane for me.
	I feel like it's a great place to be able to just deliver the truth, whatever it is.
	And I do think that's why digital media and, you know, Places like the Daily Wire are the future.
	That's the future.
	Legacy media truly is dying.
	And once Trump goes, whether it's tonight or four years from now, they're really done.
	Because he's the only thing keeping them alive.
	Yeah, that's right.
	He ironically is actually propping them up right now.
	I think this about the legacy media.
	I think about it too, as far as some never-Trump Republicans are, not people who were Trump skeptics in 2016.
	But people have sort of gone all in.
	I'm thinking maybe it's the Lincoln Project and others against the president.
	There is this interesting irony where he's responsible for their ascendancy right now, and I don't think that they will have The same kind of reach that they have today in a post-Trump future.
	Ben, what do you think?
	Yeah, I mean, I think that in the future, the media has made clear that it is now no longer in the business of objective journalism.
	And so they're in the same business we are.
	Now they're playing in our field.
	Before, it was like we had to try and play in their field.
	Now they're playing in our field.
	Megan, one of the things I wanted to ask you about is you're one of the few figures in media who did not succumb to Trump's Arrangement Syndrome.
	So you had every reason by all available sort of objective metrics You succumbed to Trump derangement syndrome in a way that nobody else did, considering the president went directly at you in 2016 repeatedly.
	And yet, you didn't.
	You maintained your objectivity.
	You maintained a perspective on Trump that allowed for the possibility that he would do things that you would like.
	How are you able to maintain an even keel?
	Because it really is a quality that you don't see in a lot of people in the media sphere.
	Oh, thank you.
	Well, you have to take yourself out of it.
	You know, I mean, there were many nights during that nine months that he was coming after me where we had security and we had people showing up at our house and our house in the middle of the night and it was just, it got a little scary.
	And every night before I went on the air to report about him, I would remind myself, it isn't about you.
	It's not about you.
	It's about the voters and him.
	You know, I'm on the sidelines and he keeps trying to bring me out onto the field, but I'm supposed to be on the sidelines.
	And that's the area from which I want to report.
	And it was hard.
	I'm not going to lie.
	It was hard, but I did it.
	And it's one of the reasons why I really resent the fact that no one else is even trying.
	You know, like I know they don't like him.
	There have been lots of leaders who I haven't liked, but your job is to not make it about you.
	You don't get to make the Duke La Crosse case about you, Jussie Smollett about you.
	Any of those cases are not about you.
	It's not your opportunity to reporter to prove to the audience how woke and liberal and liberating you are.
	Megan, I understand this feeling of despair that the legacy media is just completely collapsing.
	You know, we have no one that we can trust.
	But is there not also a little bit of hope in there?
	Is there not a silver lining, which is that I think a lot of us felt for a long time that the legacy media were utterly partisan, they were completely unfair, they were just hiding it a little bit better, and then when Donald Trump walks onto the scene, all of a sudden the mask slips a little, and you can suss out the objective journalists, and I would certainly include you in that category, but from the less objective journalists, I don't know, just a name comes to my head, Jim Acosta, or other people who have made the story always about them and their own political preferences.
	It's a good point.
	And you know, we used to in this country, back when we were founded, be all about partisan press.
	And I think our founding fathers wouldn't have understood the attempt to be, quote, objective.
	They would have said it's all about, you know, declaring your stripes and then arguing for them in the press.
	And maybe that's exactly where we're headed.
	But the thing that bothers me about it is the dishonesty about who they are.
	Tonight I was channel surfing and my assistant is here with me because it's a long night.
	I've got a lot going on.
	And I put on MSNBC.
	I'm going back and forth between Fox and MSNBC and she's like, MSNBC?
	She knows I don't like them.
	I don't watch Rachel Maddow.
	God, no.
	But I'd rather watch her than Chris Cuomo.
	She puts the cards out there.
	I know what she is.
	She explains it to me and she's honest about it.
	Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon and all those guys, they still want you to believe they're objective journalists!
	This is street news!
	I'm like, how stupid do you think we are?
	And what really bothers me about it is, you know, we're all in media.
	But my imaginary viewer, I call her Madge.
	She's in Iowa.
	She's a busy lady.
	She doesn't have time to be watching all this nonsense.
	Madge doesn't know.
	She's like, I don't know.
	I'm living my life.
	I'm not following, you know, the media websites to figure out who's gone biased and who hasn't.
	She thinks it's just the news.
	Well, it isn't the news.
	It's complete propaganda.
	So it irritates me.
	And for now, I don't watch Rachel's show, but I'd watch a panel on MSNBC before I'd watch CNN.
	Well, you know, in the early days of this country, the media declared their biases and the media actually campaigned to elect presidents instead of candidates campaigning to get elected as president.
	This is why you still have newspapers like the Tennessee Democrat, right?
	They're actually named after the parties that they were formed.
	Uh, to be propaganda outlets for.
	We don't think of ourselves as a propaganda outlet.
	We, we don't say things that we don't believe are true.
	We don't say things for which we can't find factual evidence.
	We're not trying to be, uh, an answer to the sort of Pravda tendencies of the left.
	But we do acknowledge that we have these biases.
	I actually think that everyone in the country would be in so much better shape if we got rid of this entire idea of objective media and everyone just owned their biases.
	Of course, the only people who are against that are the people who don't want you to know.
	Here's the problem, Monica.
	It would work if people could work off of the same facts.
	And I listen to Ben all the time, and I love yours too, Jeremy.
	Welcome to the podcasting world, which you already ran behind the scenes.
	And Michael, I'm soon going to download yours as well.
	I'll take what I can get.
	Ben is a guy who, he'll tell you when he thinks, you know, he calls it bad Trump, you know, he'll tell you, he gives you straight analysis when he thinks Trump has done something wrong.
	And he's pretty free to label, this is fact, this is my thought and opinion.
	Not everybody does that.
	And I actually almost think, Ben was never a never Trumper, you know, he's a sometimes Trumper.
	I actually think some of the most honest analysts of the Trump era have been people who started off, like Republicans who started off not so into Trump, who then watched what the media and the Democrats were doing to him.
	And they can still see him for what he is, but they're not, they don't have the derangement glasses on.
	And I think that's one of the reasons why you guys are so valuable.
	I think it's what helps me report fairly on him.
	There has to be a set of facts.
	That we're agreeing on, that we're working off of, and that's where I think the legacy media has gone off the deep end.
	I think you're absolutely right.
	That's why I'm so grateful that you're now joining us here in New Media.
	I'm grateful for the opportunities that our DailyWire.com audience, and in particular our subscribing members, give us to be able to give that alternative point of view.
	I like this term, legacy media.
	We were talking at the beginning of the show, we have to do away with this idea of the mainstream media, which is sort of a holdover from the early 2000s, because there's nothing mainstream about the points of view that are being sold to us day in and day out by Don Lemon and by by Acosta, by the New York Times, by the Washington Post.
	That's not how mainstream Americans see themselves.
	We should take that term back.
	Very, very pleased to have you on the show tonight, Megan.
	Thank you.
	Maybe we can circle up tomorrow and raise a glass to either the doom of the Republic or the salvation of the Republic.
	Either way, it'll be worth a drink.
	Listen, I think it's awesome that you guys are not drunk this time.
	Don't speak too soon, Megan.
	I may be hitting the bottle myself.
	We'll see.
	I think I have another hit with you guys coming up.
	I'm in an inebriated state.
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	Megyn, thank you for joining us.
	Thanks, guys.
	See you later.
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	So we have another friend with us in studio tonight.
	A blast from the past.
	I say that only because he was with us in 2016 for our election coverage, when we were blasted.
	That's how I came up with that little phrase.
	It's our pal, Dave Rubin.
	Dave, thanks for having me.
	Wait, that's what happened?
	I thought that Clavin just got, like, more hair younger and gayer.
	Let's just go through a couple things here, guys.
	First off, you've left me here with Clavin's old glass, so can I have your glass?
	Let's start with that.
	That's number one, but before I do that...
	I did bring my special thick rim election glasses because you know a lot yes because you know a lot of times on MSNBC you know they're wearing glasses now these are not real glasses these are prop glasses I actually have 20-20 vision but to make a point when you're a newscaster and as you guys are blowing up and leaving me here in Los Angeles and going to Nashville it's very exciting Knowles I'm really pissed at you You know, you guys are going to have to do more of this.
	You're going to have to get thicker and black.
	That's not quite TV worthy.
	And then when you make a point, Ben, and you're always making points, and then you... Wow, that's good.
	You didn't even say anything.
	I believe that.
	I'm a lefty.
	I just did that with my right hand.
	And then you can also do this.
	Oh my God, I wish you'd make a point, because I'm all in.
	I don't know if you're allowed to.
	I'm all in.
	One percent reporting.
	Biden is the president.
	You see?
	You see how I did that?
	My problem with that, I always get mistaken for Maddow every time I wear those glasses, and it's too much.
	I don't know how to... In Tennessee, that's not going to work well.
	In L.A., it worked very well, but Tennessee, I can't do it.
	I'm just going to note right now that the New York Times says there's a 95% shot that Trump wins Florida.
	Yeah, well this Miami-Dade County thing, it sounds like he'd be... Florida's awesome!
	My new home.
	Also, guys, breaking breaking news.
	Trump won West Virginia.
	I don't know.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Hold the fort.
	I like that now whenever I think of Florida man, I think of an Orthodox Jewish Harvard Law grad.
	Listen, Ron DeSantis, for all of his down-home charm, is a Harvard Law grad.
	That's right.
	We are taking over the state.
	We Harvard Law grads.
	It's it is impressive.
	I did You know, I don't want to say that I called Florida, but it is maybe the only state that I actually called in this election.
	I've been saying for weeks.
	Sure, your only actual prediction.
	Right, my only actual prediction in this election was that Trump was going to win Florida.
	Now, for the states that I actually do think he's going to win, I do think he's going to win North Carolina.
	I do think he's going to win Georgia.
	I think he's going to win Arizona.
	I'm much more skeptical of the states in the Midwest.
	That's that's sort of where I am.
	He's got to have one of them.
	Right.
	He's got to have Pennsylvania is really the one you go for.
	That's right.
	But Florida coming in strong for Trump and not just strong.
	He's apparently getting an outside share of the black vote now outside share of the Hispanic vote.
	And this is something that the Republicans should keep in mind going forward is that The Republican Party had been the party of white, suburban, college-educated people.
	Then under Trump, it became the party of high school-educated white people, and they sort of broke the Democratic stranglehold on some of those audiences in the Midwest.
	If the Republican Party becomes the party of more blacks, more Hispanics, and working-class white people, with some suburban women, because Trump is really the barrier between suburban women and the Republican Party, as George W. Bush and Mitt Romney showed.
	That looks like a majority party.
	That does not look like a minority party.
	And so for all of the Democrats being very sanguine about tonight, and that's reading a lot from Florida, but we'll see how the elections turn out.
	And this is the big key though, Ben, because as you mentioned, we've been told now for years and years, you know, that Republicans hate black people and Democrats have had a huge share of the black vote.
	And then during the Trump era, we were told Trump is making inroads among black voters.
	And you had all these polls, these battling bulls.
	Is Trump getting 20%, 25%, 2%?
	Who knows?
	There's only one poll that matters.
	The poll that matters is election day.
	We are getting those poll numbers in.
	If Trump can actually succeed at the thing that we conservatives have been telling ourselves for the past four years, that could be a fundamental shift in the way the political parties are going.
	Well, it just seems obvious to me that minorities are breaking.
	Minorities are realizing who wants to be owned by a political party because of the color of your skin or your sexuality or your gender.
	I mean, look, you just had Candace on, and it's great you guys are going to be doing stuff together.
	And it's like, she literally changed the world.
	Whether Trump wins or not, and I do think he will win tonight, and I'm praying he's going to win.
	I mean, talk about a freaking political evolution over here, guys.
	You know, she changed the world.
	But I do want to give credit to the missing Daily Watch, whose chair I'm sitting in, because you remember four years ago when we were doing this, and as the night was going on, And it started to become more obvious that Trump was going to win and everybody was kind of freaking out.
	You were laughing and crying simultaneously.
	It was something.
	It was the funniest night of my life.
	But Clavin said something that I have repeated and I try to credit him when I can that I think is just so on the money that what an incredible country we live in that anything can happen.
	Right now, the four of us, we live and.
	and breathe this stuff, anything can happen tonight.
	You know, and not only can anything happen, but it also depends on what the media decides.
	So let us find out happened.
	- Almost, only one thing was impossible.
	Mitch McConnell losing his seat.
	So it has been confirmed that he destroyed Amy McGrath.
	- They threw money into that.
	- That's a hell of a-- - 90 million dollars.
	- Unbelievable.
	- Trying to defeat Mitch McConnell, which is the stupidest thing.
	All he has to do is put his head and his hands into that shell.
	And you can't just take anything you throw at him.
	You can't.
	Do not screw with Cocaine Mitch, man.
	They've blown so much money on those races.
	Also, South Carolina's been called for Trump, which is good news for Lindsey Graham, who supposedly was in a close battle, but it wasn't particularly a close battle.
	Yep.
	I think it's going to be all right.
	How about that for analysis?
	I actually think everything's going to be okay.
	I think Trump is going to win, but I just think people have just woken up.
	No matter what happens tonight, enough people have woken up.
	How long are we staying in California is really the question.
	Well, you guys screwed me, and you screwed me good.
	As a matter of fact, I had Knowles and his lovely wife over for dinner just a few weeks before you announced that you were all leaving.
	And Noles and I, after some whiskey and some wine, he said, I will stay with you, Dave.
	I will stay here with you.
	Why would you possibly trust this ass?
	And then literally it was like 12 minutes later, I see across the Twitter, Ben Shapiro announces Daily Wire is getting the hell out of here.
	I kid you not.
	I think the headline was Noles sold you up the river, Ruben.
	We had this great dinner.
	Little bit of Coca-Cola, as you know.
	We were drinking a little bit.
	We made plans for the future.
	We're going to take back California.
	We're going to have... And then I... Yeah, no, it was like the next day.
	This is what happens when you have a few drinks.
	And then I go in, Jeremy calls me in.
	I kid you not, it was like two days later.
	He goes, all right, buddy.
	We're out of here.
	I said, Dave, who?
	I got out of town.
	I'm getting out of town.
	You know what?
	Truly, guys.
	Well, first of all, I've loved having you guys here.
	It's been nice.
	And I get to Florida every now and again.
	So we will break bread again.
	And I do.
	I've been to Nashville once.
	It starts off like this.
	Quite lovely, and I performed at the Ryman Theater.
	It was great.
	You may be enjoying that new house, but they will bodily throw you out of the state.
	Well, listen, we got guns.
	We got a ton of ammo, and what an odd ending to my movie.
	How did this end like this?
	I'm the one that's staying.
	I had to get all the guns.
	You guys are leaving.
	Yeah, it's pretty fantastic.
	We know how to prank people.
	That's our stuff.
	Yeah.
	It starts off like this.
	Hey, Dave.
	I mean, you ever hear of classical liberalism? - Well, what's going to be hilarious is when all of us, the married, religious Jewish and Christian conservatives, watch Dave The gay, formerly liberal guy being Waco in the middle of LA.
	Yes.
	That's how that turned out, basically.
	I always told you, Knowles, I was going to end up the most right-wing.
	I believe it.
	It was obvious, because I've been with these people, and they're terrible, horrible people, and I've spent a lot of time with them, and they're awful.
	Politically, you're going to be further to the right than any of us.
	You may become the Pope at some point, I don't know.
	Honestly, I will for a while.
	I mean, this is what we decided, that we will stay here for a while and see if we can fix this freaking thing, you know?
	Right.
	What happens, you guys know this, leftists and progressives break things and then conservatives fix them.
	So it's like, look, California, that Reagan guy was once the governor of California.
	Like, things happen.
	New York, what happened?
	Dinkins, a lefty progressive nutbag.
	He ruined New York City, Giuliani fixes it.
	So, I like a challenge, you know?
	And I also like 82 degree weather every day when it's not raining fire.
	We all like the weather.
	The truth is, Ben's lived in California his entire life.
	I've lived here for 20 years, two months, and two weeks.
	I love California.
	I didn't move here by accident.
	It's the greatest state in the country in terms of natural beauty.
	It's the greatest state in the country in terms of just your ability to start off as nothing, engage with media, and find a voice for yourself.
	The problem is they've destroyed it.
	I mean, in the last three years, they've completely unraveled the magic of L.A.
	It's a totally different town than what it was even 36 months ago.
	My hope is, listen, my hope is you join us in Nashville.
	Failing that, I hope you turn this state around.
	Look, there's always a chance.
	Like, how do any of us do anything in the political world if we don't think there's a chance, right?
	Like, we think... You're literally just quoting Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber now.
	Most of my political beliefs...
	Actually, they came from Liar Liar.
	Me, myself, and Irene.
	Ben, it took me a second.
	I got the reference.
	Now I got it.
	So you're saying there's a chance.
	Okay, now I got it.
	I was a little slow on that one.
	Did you know that his favorite movie is Me, Myself, and Irene?
	It's the greatest movie ever made.
	He told me that that night before he lied to me about staying.
	You didn't know who it was there or not.
	It's the greatest movie of all time.
	Everything I believe came from the movie, yada, yada, yada.
	Anyway, I'm going to stay and fight for a little bit.
	And I think people hate Garcetti, this clown here, our mayor.
	I think people hate Gavin Newsom.
	And I'm going to see, you know, Rick Grinnell is still in California.
	Larry Elder lives here in L.A.
	It's not that nobody's here.
	And by the way, as Hollywood crumbles, which it is crumbling, it is crumbling.
	And as Hollywood crumbles, new industries will have to kind of step in and fill that out.
	And they won't be this crazy leftist monolith.
	So there's a chance.
	Let's tie this to tonight, which is to say there was a 10,000 person Trump rally in Beverly Hills.
	It was amazing.
	Unbelievable.
	Were you there?
	Yeah, I was there.
	It was unbelievable.
	What was the spirit of it?
	What was the attitude like?
	Pure joy.
	Pure joy.
	Have you ever done ecstasy?
	You know, I've never done ecstasy.
	Ben, have you ever done ecstasy?
	All my time!
	Back at Harvard Law, this guy.
	See, this is where I can never say I'm a full conservative, because I say ecstasy and I can see all you guys start.
	You get extra color.
	I'm going to be honest with you.
	I told my wife one time, my family has a history of drug use, and so I've never been tempted to do drugs.
	And even in situations where people I cared a lot about, you know, people who I It was very close to, they would say, you know, we'd be in Amsterdam or something.
	They'd be like, oh, it'd be great if we'd smoke a joint together.
	And I would just say, I just, I can't do it because I've seen where the road can lead.
	I don't know which jeans I got, but I'm not going to fool around with what if I got those jeans, you know?
	No, no, no.
	You should always prefer.
	That's it.
	I've said to my wife, if I were ever going to do a drug, it would be ecstasy.
	It's called ecstasy.
	Listen, I'm not here to... I didn't realize this was going to turn into the Joe Rogan podcast.
	What I've always said is I want to carve a little more libertarianism into the conservative movement.
	Anyway, let's remove... So you were taking Crocodile.
	So let's remove the ecstasy metaphor here.
	It was pure joy.
	Thousands of people, and it didn't matter if they were black or white or gay or straight or any of that nonsense, But if they were Asian, they were out.
	No, they were plenty of Asians.
	It was a serious love fest.
	And everybody's happy.
	Everybody's hugging.
	I found out that Dennis Prager was on his way there, so I texted him.
	I met him right outside, and we walked in together.
	And to watch the people, because Dennis is really tall, and he's dressed like Dennis Prager.
	I'm in a t-shirt, so it's a little different.
	And to watch these literally thousands of people yelling, like, God bless you, Dennis, we're going to take this state back.
	And by the way, Dennis is staying here.
	It was just pure joy.
	It's the 180 reverse.
	Well, we'll see about that.
	Now what do you know?
	I mean, you were there.
	There's not going to be enough whiskey.
	It was you, me, Carolla, and Prager.
	And I've got Adam on the ropes.
	I mean, I think I can get Adam to move.
	I think I'm like... He's got all those fancy cars.
	It's very expensive to move those across the street.
	They are made of car.
	So they are, in fact, mobile.
	They're made of car, true.
	I laid the best argument on Dennis that he has ever heard, which was, Dennis Prager, you are committing an act of immorality by spending your taxpayer dollars in a state that is hopelessly blue and is using them to reinforce all the values you hate.
	And you can see Dennis got a little shook.
	Alan Estrin actually told me this week, he said, I have to say, he has an acai bowl and he has his apple watch.
	Dennis is taking to heart what Ben said to him about the morality of staying in California.
	I know where Dennis lives.
	Right where Dennis lives.
	That's where I went.
	Right to the morality point.
	He was done.
	Take Prager from me.
	This is not a show of consider Tennessee right back.
	Is it?
	I mean, obviously the president isn't going to win California.
	We have a lot, but that's how you start the reset.
	That's right.
	Yes.
	So I used to run an organization called friends of Abe.
	It was about 2,500 Hollywood professionals who were conservative.
	And we'd bring 20 to 40 of them into these new member lunches.
	And people would whisper at a private table in a private room.
	Grown men would weep.
	And I don't mean one or two.
	I mean numerous times over the decade that we were in operation.
	People would say, obviously, my agent, if they knew I was here.
	One guy said, if my wife knew I was here.
	My wife does not know my most deeply held beliefs.
	What the rally in Beverly Hills said to me, what your experience at the polling place last week said to me, what the caravan of trucks and vehicles that went down Ventura Boulevard three times now has said to me is that conservatives are not in a mood to hide from the left anymore.
	I think we have finally realized They've got our number.
	They are going to dox us.
	They are going to destroy us.
	The only way you can defend yourself is to take absolute ownership of who you are and stand up.
	And by the way, who do we have to thank for that?
	It's Donald Trump, because he mapped out a way to win.
	Because who do the Democrats love now?
	They love the idea of John McCain, who's not even on this earth anymore.
	They love Mitt Romney, who's just a sellout.
	They love Bill Crystal, of course, but they love George W. Bush now.
	They love Republicans that are either retired and gone or dead.
	And it's like, Trump's like, well, I'm here and I'm alive and I'm going to fight for these things.
	It doesn't make him perfect, but he's the one that allowed that.
	So when you go to this thing in Beverly Hills, I mean, the heart of it, not just Beverly Hills, Rodeo Drive, which was destroyed by Black Lives Matter and Antifa a couple of months ago, And is all boarded up now.
	Somehow, hundreds and thousands of Trump supporters can walk through Rodeo Drive.
	Jeremy, you're not going to believe this.
	Perfect.
	Nobody busted into, uh, give me a fancy store.
	Prada.
	Come on, Knowles.
	Nobody busted into Prada.
	Gucci.
	Come on.
	I always go for it.
	Come on.
	Why are people boarding up, Dave Rubin, if conservatives aren't going to burn everything down?
	You mean it isn't going to be white Christian militias parading through Beverly Hills, destroying the, give me another reference, Knowles.
	Yeah, destroying.
	Manolo Bonnick.
	Okay.
	How was that?
	They'd known I was coming.
	They brought up a Breguet store.
	Well, I don't want to tempt you overly, but you know who they just called for Donald Trump with only 1% of the vote reporting, and yet they called the state the great state of Tennessee.
	Wow.
	I see what you're doing there.
	Here it is.
	Tennessee.
	Look how red.
	That is very red.
	That's a beautiful color, isn't it?
	A beautiful color of red.
	I will say this.
	I was in Tennessee once when I was on tour with Jordan, and I performed at the Grand Old Opry, the Ryman Theater, which is the legendary theater.
	That's right.
	And the people there were extraordinarily nice.
	Yeah.
	You guys are going to have to get used to being around nice people.
	That's very different.
	That's very different than being here in LA, but I think just with the right amount of time and maybe a little ecstasy, I think it'll work out.
	You know, this is something that even, I have friends and family who are very meek and mild, and they have always lived in blue places, even if they're conservative.
	And they say they're sick of it, because now, this is actually something that changed with coronavirus, where now, and the mask is a great symbol of it.
	You can tell someone's politics by the millimeter of where the mask is on their nose, right?
	Yeah.
	Depending on the situation.
	And now, you can't deny the politics.
	Every single interaction is, am I a bag of germs, or am I a fellow American?
	And am I going to kill you?
	Everything is so, you're so on edge all the time.
	I want to jump into a sea of Republicans in Tennessee.
	I want to feel like I'm not always on the defensive.
	Well, I mean, when it comes to the mask, actually, what I've noticed for Democrats is that the way you can tell a Democrat wearing a mask is that they're wearing it improperly.
	Seriously.
	That Republicans, when they wear masks, it's usually because they actually are concerned about the virus.
	And for a lot of Democrats, it seems like the mask is being worn simply as a pure virtue signal.
	And so it's hanging off their ear.
	Listen, you know I'm not as anti-mask as you guys are.
	So I actually think that the masking is not the chief giveaway.
	The chief giveaway is when you think the masking is the failure of ideological consistency.
	That's the chief giveaway.
	All the people who say that it's terrible to go to a crowd event with Donald Trump and not wear a mask, but then they're like, But you know what, it's very important for you to go into a racial protest about how the United States is evil.
	There was literally a story, I think, yesterday on Yahoo, I think it was Yahoo, that said somehow they figured out that when people are doing these super spreader Black Lives Matter things and they're destroying everything, somehow the virus has actually gone down.
	Yes, well because they said everybody was staying home.
	What they said was because everybody was staying home.
	They said everybody was staying home because of the riots.
	So the rioters were actually doing you a favor.
	They were keeping people at home so you wouldn't die of COVID.
	Also, the CDC announced today that even if you actively have COVID-19, you should go vote.
	It's the wokest virus I've ever heard of.
	What bothers me about this is, and I know this will come as a shock to people, there is no constitutional right to vote for president.
	There is a constitutional right to freely worship.
	And yet churches, basically a CDC recommendation, remain shuttered all over this country.
	But if you're going to vote, by golly, get down there and make sure that there's not a red, what are they calling it?
	The red... The red mirage.
	The red mirage.
	If it doesn't turn out their way, it's a mirage.
	Right now, it is worth noting that Georgia looks like it is lining up for Trump as well.
	So at least Florida and Georgia.
	I have lined up for Trump.
	Arizona looks a little bit dicier based on early stats.
	Ohio is looking a lot closer than it did last time I remember.
	Trump was supposed to win narrowly in Ohio.
	He won broadly in Ohio.
	Looks back to narrow territory.
	You know, that is good news in Georgia.
	I was a little bit more worried in Georgia, and we've seen some polls that come out that have been a little scary, and obviously Stacey Abrams is the governor there, so that makes it very difficult.
	But that is good news.
	And after tonight, she may be the president.
	She may well be the president.
	If this all ends with Stacey Abrams as the president, then we absolutely are in a simulation.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Dave, I want to go check in with our war room.
	Do you mind sticking around for one more segment?
	I'm here, I have whiskey, and I think I'm attached to the chair, so... You have no choice.
	I'll put these on while we're... Those for your analysis.
	Yes, yes.
	Alicia in the Daily Wire War Room.
	Yes, I am here and I have our very own Cabot Phillips.
	As you guys mentioned, of course, President Trump just won Tennessee.
	We have updated our map here.
	So how is it looking?
	What's going on?
	The guys just referenced Georgia as well.
	Can you break down some of the data from that state?
	So the two main states we're looking at right now where we have enough data.
	to really start to get a feel for how the states are shaping out, Georgia and Florida.
	Now, Florida, New York Times, if you believe their projections, has Trump at about 96 percent to win.
	The Panhandle, one of the large areas remaining for votes to come in, traditionally a conservative stronghold.
	It's looking very, very good for the president in Florida.
	Georgia, another state where polls didn't have President Trump ahead.
	It's going to be incredibly close right now.
	New York Times has them with a 60 percent chance of winning Georgia, if you believe those.
	The numbers that we have right now with 13 percent reporting President Trump up about almost 6 percent.
	Obviously, we're going to have to wait for Fulton County.
	That's where Atlanta is.
	That's where most of the results are going to come in.
	That's where the Democrats are really banking.
	Fulton, Cobb County, DeKalb County, all counties that are Democrat strongholds traditionally.
	It's going to be tough to see for Georgia, but it looks good right now.
	And one of the things about Georgia that we've been discussing is the early voting there.
	So what was the early voting turnout like?
	Because technically, that tends to skew more Democratic, right?
	Yeah.
	Technically, you would think that.
	In past elections, it definitely benefits Democrats.
	This year, Democrat early voting, not as big because Republicans have been calling on early voting.
	Democrat mail-in voting is what we're expecting to see very high numbers from.
	Another interesting point here, we're talking about projections from the New York Times.
	Another one people like to keep an eye on, the betting markets.
	Sometimes people think you can get a better feel for where it's going with the money.
	Now President Trump was sitting down in the high teens to low 20s earlier in the week.
	Right now he's up to 45% in some of the larger betting markets.
	Seems like some people think the smart money is lying on President Trump, or at least it's starting to get that way.
	So that's another thing to keep an eye on as the night progresses.
	Ohio, another one, the big one that people are wanting to see.
	Ohio and Pennsylvania next.
	We just don't have enough data coming in from those states yet.
	Ohio especially, where you do have a few more votes, but a lot of the key areas that Republicans are waiting on are not coming in yet.
	Okay, and I mean who knew that Michael Knowles had time to get to Vegas to put in his bets on that.
	Speaking of something that Democrats spent a lot of money on, $100 million on the race against Mitch McConnell in Kentucky.
	It did not turn out.
	Mitch McConnell has won re-election.
	Can we look at a Senate map?
	Actually, we have an update there.
	Can you give us an update on what's going on with the Senate?
	Well, if you close your eyes and listen to that sound, that laughter is the affectionately named Cocaine Mitch, laughing at all of the people that poured $100 million into Amy McGrath's campaign.
	That's what we like to call burning money.
	I'm picturing the Joker setting on the cash right before he lights it on fire.
	That's what anyone who sent money to the McGrath campaign has done with their money.
	Mitch McConnell, you bet against him.
	A lot of times it doesn't go well for you.
	A lot of people did.
	Mitch McConnell is going to be remaining.
	We've seen a few other races called for.
	Four Republicans, Inhofe in Oklahoma.
	A few other states.
	Not many big surprises yet in the Senate races.
	We're holding off on announcing any of those yet until we get to some of the more.
	Uh, you know, contested elections.
	Okay, thank you, Cabot, for that update.
	Guys, we're going to continue to bring those updates, but right now we would love to come on over here and get to some subscriber questions.
	Everybody really wants to know, um, at what point, this question is for Ben, actually, what point do you think the riots and looting will start, Ben, if Trump ends up winning Pennsylvania?
	Uh, if Trump wins Pennsylvania, immediately.
	So I think, first of all, there aren't going to be a lot of folks who actually wait until the results are in.
	I think you're going to start to see unrest tonight if there's not a clear result for Biden.
	So I think that if we get to 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock at night on the East Coast, Washington, D.C., New York, you know, some of the places that they're worried about this.
	And it turns out that it's a very narrow election that looks like it's going to go late into the night.
	You might start to see some preemptive looting, some preemptive upset.
	If we hit tomorrow and it looks like Trump's going to win Pennsylvania, you will see some active violence for sure.
	I agree with you.
	Wow, Dave, that's so wise!
	Hold on, let me... That's even wiser!
	I agree, I agree.
	Not to get too saucy, but I'm definitely borrowing those glasses and I'm going back to Flora and I'm saying, my wife, sweetheart, would you like to?
	You know.
	And you see how it works.
	It works, dude.
	I mean, they do have three kids.
	Okay, next question goes to... Actually, I want to ask this question to Dave, if you don't mind.
	People want to know that given that the polls were so inaccurate in 2016, do you think that the pollsters may have erred on the safe side this election we've heard across the board?
	How pollsters have changed, you know, the different levels of which they look at data and what type of people they call and include in their polling.
	But do you think that they've erred so much on the safe side this year that they will be reporting, you know, kind of going too much to the other side, reporting similarly inaccurate predictions?
	Yeah, you know I've been polling people on Twitter and in real life asking friends and family and nobody that I know, I got one person to say that about 10 years ago they were polled on a landline.
	I can't find anyone that was ever polled.
	Have you guys ever been polled?
	I've got one text in my life.
	You've gotten one text.
	Have you ever been polled?
	Never.
	Never been polled then?
	Have you ever been polled?
	No.
	That's what happens before or after the ecstasy.
	I don't know all the terminology.
	Wow, you're working blue tonight!
	I don't think that the polls actually have much bearing anymore.
	It strikes me as a vestige of the old world and in many ways, no matter what happens tonight, but especially if Trump wins, it seems to me that the old world is coming to a close now.
	It's coming to a close.
	It maybe hangs on for four more years if Biden wins or whoever becomes president once Biden is declared incompetent or whatever.
	Incapacitated, incompetent, whatever you want to call it.
	Incompetent, we know he is.
	We also know he is.
	But in essence, I think that the idea that the pollsters are getting this stuff right, it's just more signaling and training us, the way the New York Times tries to train us.
	The way all the studies out of Harvard try to train us to think certain things.
	And as you know, we did the PragerU 1984.
	I mean, everything they do is doublespeak and confusion.
	So the idea that the people who lie about everything, and the mainstream that lies about absolutely everything, they don't lie about this.
	This is the one thing that they've decided not to lie about because it's so serious, and yet we don't know anyone that they've talked to about this.
	Well, this is actually a debate that we were having before the show.
	Ben and I, Michael was a part of it, Drew was a part of it.
	Can do pollsters have more of an interest to redeem their profession by being accurate or more of an interest in gratifying their client, who is the legacy media?
	These people don't.
	It's almost everything that's gone on with the left over the last couple of years.
	You would think that Donald Trump being president for the last four years, they might have gone in and reevaluated what they did wrong, but they're in so deep.
	You don't want to be the pollster, the one pollster out of the pollster.
	I guess they have a Do they hang out?
	Do they have like an AOL chat room or something?
	Is that a thing?
	But like, you don't want to be the one pollster who's like, you know, I'm doing this a little bit differently and talking to people a little bit differently and you're not gonna believe this guys, but I've got Trump up five.
	So that's why all the polls said the exact same thing, which by the way over the last couple days was a lot closer at this point than it was four years ago.
	Yeah, I just... There's also, there's just a sort of minor historical point here, which is that everything we're talking about, modern social science, modern statistics, modern polling, modern media, modern university, modern state, All came up at the same time as part of the same project.
	Actually, the word statistics comes from the word statist.
	Statistic in German, statist in Italian.
	It was all to feed the modern administrative state.
	So it works within that system.
	If that system starts to break down, then the whole thing breaks down.
	You've seen the university break down.
	You've seen the legacy media break down magnificently.
	And I think the last vestige is polling, because it sounds the most science-y.
	You know, it sounds the most factual.
	But as the system crumbles, That one's going to go too.
	Well, look at exit polling, the idea that there's a pollster outside of the place where you vote who is going to come up to you and then you're going to tell him what you just did there.
	I mean, I voted here in Los Angeles.
	I'm a public person and people know that I voted for Trump.
	But the idea that I would have talked to a random person, especially with the stupidity of the masks and everything else, like, oh, yes, yes, let me tell you my life story.
	You want to come to my house?
	Make you a nice cup of coffee.
	Let's talk.
	We'll be in good company.
	Like, it's all none of this seems real anymore.
	And I think that's what we're seeing.
	There is a new world on the horizon.
	And I think truly, you know, guys like us are going to help blaze the trail to it.
	Or we'll go to the gulags.
	Or we'll be in good company.
	So we have breaking news right now coming out of Florida.
	We're going to the Daily Wire War Room to get the update.
	Elisha.
	Yeah, back to that update.
	I'm gonna head on over to our nifty little map over here in our very own Cabot Phillips.
	Cabot, what's going on?
	If I sound a little bit out of breath, it's because I've been running back and forth getting all the latest data.
	Now, multiple sources have said that President Trump is set to win Florida.
	They have called it for President Trump, multiple sources.
	Uh, we're not putting it on the board yet.
	We're gonna wait for a little bit more clarification.
	Alright.
	But it looks like barring some kind of unforeseen craziness, President Trump is gonna carry Florida.
	And that is with 86% of the precincts reporting.
	Is this the breakdown of what is happening?
	This is the current breakdown right now.
	So 89% is the most recent data.
	President Trump is at 50.4%.
	Biden down at 48.7%.
	And where the remaining votes are coming in from, traditional conservative strongholds, it doesn't look like there's any way for Vice President Biden to make up the gap in Florida.
	All throughout the election, the polling showed Biden up anywhere from 2, 5, some polls even had him up 10.
	We did see the polls start to get a little bit closer this week.
	President Trump and Biden alternating being the lead in Florida.
	But it looks like Florida is going to be going to President Trump.
	Okay, and that is 29 very big and important, or as the President would say, bigly important.
	Exactly.
	This was a must-win for President Trump.
	If he didn't take Florida, statistically speaking, it was going to be nearly impossible for him to win the election in Florida.
	This is one of the core five states we've been tracking at the Daily Wire.
	So this was a big one for him.
	They can for now breathe a sigh of relief and now it's on to North Carolina, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, all those big states.
	All right.
	Thank you guys so much.
	We'll be bringing those updates specifically North Carolina and Pennsylvania where we're paying attention.
	And you've been talking about the polls.
	Cabot just mentioned the polls were, you know, not necessarily, you know, how wrong were they?
	Once all the votes are counted, we'll see what that margin was.
	And this, by the way, is the big question.
	there were trending against the president and the vice president in Florida.
	Does that mean that other polling data that we've seen out of places like Pennsylvania, North Carolina is going to follow that trend?
	We're going to be paying attention to that and bringing you guys updates as we get them.
	And this, by the way, is the big question is whether now is Florida indicative of other polling errors all over the country or is that Florida just outperforms for Republicans?
	That Florida is trending red?
	I mean, we did see this last time.
	We saw that Ron DeSantis defeated Andrew Gilman, a very bad year for Republicans in 2018.
	And we saw that Florida remained rather red.
	It may be that Florida is in fact trending red because Hispanic voters are trending toward President Trump, particularly in Florida where they are Cuban expatriates, Venezuelan expatriates, Brazilian.
	Expatriates, because lumping in everybody from various different countries as Latino and pretending that everybody is from the same country.
	Latinx.
	Latinx.
	By the way, the polling this year would be pretty egregious.
	The 538 polling average did have Florida at 2.5 for Biden.
	They're now predicting that it could be plus 3.4 for Trump.
	That's a significant five point error in favor of President Trump.
	Outside the margin of error.
	Outside the margin of error.
	We'll see if that carries over to any place else, like, for example, Ohio.
	which right now looks like it's going to be a real dogfight.
	Yeah.
	So what I will say is that we had wondered at the beginning of the night, would we be in for a short night or a long night?
	If it was going to be 2012 all over again, the president would be losing Florida and we would know there was no path to victory.
	That is not what we're facing.
	The president of the United States, Donald Trump, very competitive tonight, picking up the state of Florida or almost certain now to pick up the state of Florida and therefore is in a great position to battle it out for the rest of the night.
	Dave Rubin, thank you for hanging out with us.
	Really appreciate you coming in.
	Especially appreciate the glasses.
	I think it's a class to join up.
	It's been a pleasure being with you.
	Obviously, I'm never going to see any of you ever again.
	No.
	And I'm going to go down with the ship here and you people will... You're looking at me very seriously right now.
	Well, I'm in sad.
	You got very sad there.
	It's a little sad.
	I mean, attending your funeral, I'm gonna just think back on this time.
	I know.
	And think, remember that time before Dave went down in full-on Scarface Blaze of Glory doing ecstasy and firing machine guns at Eric Arcetti, remember that?
	The joke about my impending doom, but I'm not the one moving to Del Boca Vista, okay?
	Ben Shapiro just carried the state of Florida for President Trump.
	This is correct.
	One vote.
	I am responsible.
	Just as Candace Owens has radically shifted the black vote in favor of President Trump, I shifted the Florida vote in favor of President Trump by my mere presence.
	Just as I have historically shifted the vote in favor of Republicans in the state of California.
	That's how much impact I have.
	Can I do an all jokes aside to end this?
	Because I'm not gonna see you guys in person for a while The fact that you guys are going and you put your money where your mouth is like we can fix this on many fronts I truly believe that whether it's me here You guys there wherever everybody else ends up like this is a country like if we're gonna remain a country then some good people have to stay here and some people have to have to get going and I We'll do it.
	Let's do it.
	Let's fix this thing.
	I have nothing better to do.
	Do you guys?
	Nothing at all.
	We really appreciate you.
	I wanted to be in the NBA.
	I appreciate you not only being here, but just your friendship and kinship over these last several years as we've been launching our business, you've been launching your business.
	It's been comforting knowing you're right down the street.
	We'll be a little further away.
	I feel like I had something to do with your higher hair also.
	You know, this hair, I paid good money for this hair.
	It has gone full.
	There's something barbarian at this point.
	I thought we said all joking aside.
	I was getting sentimental, and now you guys are picking on me.
	I just want to say very seriously, very earnestly, and no jokes, Dave, the wisdom you have shown us over the past, like, nine minutes or so, since you took the glasses off and then chewed on them a little, has floored me and really made me think.
	He's got to leave now.
	I'm questioning my sexuality.
	Look at this.
	He smolders.
	The guy smolders.
	Please.
	Thank you, guys.
	I'm going to sit up and shake your hand.
	Am I attached to this thing?
	Thank you, man.
	And I'm not due to covid restrictions.
	So I will catch you later.
	Dave, I'll miss you.
	See ya.
	All right.
	OK, go to a close up on me so we can get him unplugged before he walks away and tears up the entire.
	Set.
	Okay.
	Quick note.
	I love this.
	This is my favorite part of the evening is when things start to get a little bit worse for Democrats and all of the estimates start to go down.
	So we don't know where it's going from here.
	Yeah.
	But one of my favorite parts of the last 2016 election, as you'll recall, was watching the estimate on Hillary Clinton go from 99 percent to zero percent over the course of the night.
	538 is now reevaluating their shot that Biden wins the White House.
	They had him at 90 percent.
	They now have him at 66 percent.
	Uh, if Trump carries Florida.
	So this does change the math rather radically.
	So that is, uh, that is definitely a good thing.
	Again, the states keep your eye on now is Ohio because Ohio is getting those votes in.
	Uh, we are still waiting on more results from North Carolina at this point.
	Um, it is, it is amazing to see how Hispanic voters in Florida moved dramatically, dramatically away from the Democrats.
	According to some of the early exit polls, Florida, Hillary Clinton, Hispanics, In Florida in 2016, plus 27 for Hillary.
	In 2020, plus 8 for Biden.
	Plus 8 for Biden.
	Okay, that is closing a nearly 20 point gap among Hispanic voters in the state of Florida if those exit polls are accurate.
	In Georgia, Biden is underperforming by 15% versus Clinton among Hispanics.
	And in Ohio, Hispanics are performing 17 points better for Donald Trump than they did last time around, which demonstrates once again, It demonstrates two things.
	One, Democrats are fools for relying on the demography is destiny argument.
	That's a foolish argument.
	And two, white nationalists are fools for relying on the demography is destiny argument.
	The argument that only if there are more white voters and fewer Hispanic voters can there be any hope for the rest of the country.
	The reality is people are individuals and people will think as individuals if treated as individuals.
	And that will be the hope of the Republican Party going forward.
	Apparently, according to the New York Times needle, by the way, they've got those needles back.
	And I know everybody hates on the needles, but the needles are great because honestly, I mean, one of the things that's great about the needles is they do give you like a quick and kind of down and dirty way of knowing exactly where things sort of stand in the race moment to moment.
	They suggest that Trump is a slight favorite to carry North Carolina.
	And obviously they have Trump winning Florida and Trump a heavy favorite to win Georgia.
	That would be a big miss by the polls, by the way, on Georgia as well.
	Georgia was trending Trump in the latter days.
	Unbelievable.
	So we're proud to welcome back our own Andrew Klavan.
	If you look at their polling average, Georgia was running basically dead even.
	538 had Georgia trending toward trending toward Biden.
	So we'll see if these polls are systemically wrong.
	If they're systemically wrong and often Trump wins reelection.
	Unbelievable.
	So we're proud to welcome back our own Andrew Klavan.
	We sit him on a bathroom break.
	He got lost.
	I think he went up, went and got himself a lovely dinner, met some nice people out front who were spray painting the front of our building where we had it all boarded up.
	You missed our farewell to our pal Dave Rubin.
	Yeah.
	But you also missed the unbelievable news that the president is being some some Outlets are now calling Florida for the president.
	So we are in for a long night.
	The president's competitive.
	That looked good.
	You have to remember Quinnipiac had him five points down.
	That's outside the margin of error.
	I just can't believe that bastard wouldn't use Latinx.
	As we all know, only racists refuse to use Latinx.
	Racists like every Latino person you've ever met.
	Can we also celebrate that Mitch McConnell... Oh yeah, we did that earlier.
	You weren't here for that.
	A hundred million bucks.
	I missed the celebration.
	It was pretty fantastic.
	We actually did cocaine off the table.
	Just in celebration of Mitch McConnell.
	Oh, I was doing that outside.
	Oh yeah, no, they literally just took a giant pile of money and burned it.
	It was the Joker and saying, we're just trying to send a message here.
	And then Kamala Harris broke into the Joker laugh.
	It was fantastic.
	They should have written like a letter on each dollar bill.
	It was a really long message.
	But what's going on in Ohio?
	Ohio's not looking good.
	Yeah, Ohio is a little bit uglier.
	So in a lot of the counties that Trump was winning heavily, particularly the suburban counties that he did pretty well in last time, he's underperforming in the suburban counties of Ohio.
	He's really underperforming in places like Cincinnati.
	He won the counties surrounding Cincinnati, but they're not showing up in mass numbers.
	This is showing up closer to what he was pulled at in 2016 than what he showed at in 2016.
	So in 2016, a lot of rural white voters showed up for Trump.
	If they don't show up for Trump in Ohio, it's hard to see him winning Pennsylvania, I think.
	The question is competing patterns, right?
	Is Florida the pattern or is Ohio the pattern?
	In Florida, he overperformed.
	My tendency is to think that if he underperforms in Ohio or if he underperforms in Texas, that is more likely to predict the night than overperformance in Florida.
	Because Florida is just a fantastic frickin' state.
	And not only is Florida a fantastic frickin' state, again, Florida bucked the trend in 2018, which is why Ron DeSantis, rather than a man who was caught in a room with meth and a gay hooker, ended up as governor of Florida.
	Yeah, a communist who was caught in a room with meth and a gay hooker.
	He had everything.
	And he lost it.
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	And Ben is right.
	We're announcing a lot of really exciting initiatives tonight.
	Not only is Candace Owens moving to Nashville, not only is she joining the Daily Wire with a show unlike any other show, but we are also pleased to announce tonight, I told you there would be more than one big announcement.
	Second big announcement.
	It's that beginning in the coming weeks, we have made a partnership with our friends over at Prager University, the most, I think, listen, there are three conservative organizations that have really emerged over the last five years to take new roles and very important roles in the movement.
	I think Charlie Kirk over at TPUSA has done something remarkable and important.
	I think the Daily Wire, a bit self-serving, but we've done something remarkable and important over these last five years.
	And our friends at Prager University have done something remarkable and important.
	We've been fighting the fight for media.
	They have been fighting the fight for education.
	Five-minute videos at a time.
	Our friend Dennis Prager and our friend Alan Estrin came up with the idea.
	CEO Marissa has taken it to heights that I don't think any of us saw coming in the early days when me and Jonathan Hay were helping draw little videos for Prager when he was first getting started.
	Now these videos have been viewed literally Billions of times.
	And you should be pleased about that because they are watched by people who, you know, are young.
	People who wouldn't perhaps listen to, say, Rush Limbaugh or wouldn't watch Fox News.
	And they're getting a deep education.
	They're learning about the concepts that are actually relevant.
	In fact, four years ago, when Donald Trump won his surprise 2016 victory, a PragerU video that I had had the pleasure of working on about the Electoral College did 50 million views in the wake of that election.
	As Americans started asking questions like, what is the electoral college?
	Why do we have an electoral college?
	And who was there to answer?
	Who was there to stand in that gap?
	Our friends at PragerU.
	In our new partnership with PragerU, we will bring dailywire.com members, the entire PragerU catalog behind our paywall on our, we call it an SVOD service, a streaming video on demand service.
	That's the way you watch Ben Shapiro on TheDailyWire.com.
	It's the way that you watch Andrew Klavan on TheDailyWire.com.
	And now you will be able to watch the entire catalog of remarkable, evergreen, prescient and important videos from our friends over at PragerU.
	One of the important steps that we're taking A, to give more value to our subscribers, but more than that, to make sure that you are exposed to the exact content that you need to arm you for the battles that are ahead and to replace this media, academic, institutional structure that is aligned against us.
	It's not enough to fight the battle of ideas in media.
	We have to fight it on the level of education, too.
	We have to teach people the things that they currently do not know.
	We will be doing that with our friends at PragerU.
	We couldn't be more excited about it.
	I'm also going to welcome to the show a good friend of, well, no one.
	The man has no friends.
	But he is a Daily Wire host, and he's sometimes with us when he's in town.
	People ask all the time, why isn't Matt Walsh part of Backstage?
	Why isn't Matt Walsh part of your election night coverage?
	Matt Walsh doesn't like us, and Matt Walsh doesn't like airplanes.
	And when you don't like us, and you don't like airplanes, and you live literally 3,200 miles away, you're just not going to be on the damn show, people.
	I'm sorry.
	Believe me, I tried.
	Oh, Matt, what if we sent you a first-class ticket?
	And he's always like, oh, will they make me a mimosa?
	I don't know, Matt, it's COVID.
	I can't promise it.
	Well, if you can't promise me a mimosa, I can't possibly do it.
	But he is with us tonight, streaming in from his new digs in Nashville, Tennessee, where he'll be obviously much more integrated, I think, into some of these broadcasts than he's been able to be in the past, because we'll be together finally.
	Our good friend, Matt Walsh.
	Matt, thanks for being with us.
	Thanks for having me.
	Thank you for that introduction.
	It is true that I don't like anyone, but I do my best to pretend.
	Not very well most of the time, but I do try to pretend.
	You're not fooling anybody, Matt.
	So, Matt, as a very cynical human being who's always downcast and depressing, are you downcast and depressing tonight or are you upbeat tonight?
	And if so, why?
	Well, my projection was that Kanye West would win the presidency, so I'm feeling depressed about that.
	I don't think that's going to happen.
	You know, I don't know.
	Looking at it right now, it seems like things are kind of trending like they did in 2016.
	I certainly wouldn't call myself optimistic because I never am, but I think if that's how it turns out, then it's no big surprise because, of course, the Democrats are going to, if they lose, they're going to be talking about voter fraud and all these different things.
	The reason why they lost, if they lose, it's simply because they're horrible and they've done absolutely nothing.
	They've done not one thing in the last four years to attract new voters, especially the voters they need in some of these states.
	Everything they've done has been to appeal to, you know, pink-haired gender studies majors and BLM looters.
	That's everything they've done in four years has been just to appeal to that set.
	And what we discover, maybe at the end of the night, is that there aren't enough of People in that category to win a national election, but we'll see.
	So, Matt Walsh, we have been ripping on the media all evening long.
	And we expect you to do the same, as an employee of DailyWire.com.
	We are now billing ourselves as replacement media because our media are such garbage.
	So please, spend the next two minutes and 37 seconds ripping the crap out of the media, because it is well deserved.
	Well, I'm actually a big fan of the media.
	You should have brought me on to that.
	I love the national media.
	Listen, you look at some of the images in D.C.
	and New York, and you guys have talked about this, in some of these cities where they're boarding up windows and they have to call in the National Guard.
	In the past, when I've seen other countries doing that sort of thing for their elections, I've always felt good and felt sort of superior and thought, well, we don't do that here.
	I feel so good that we have peaceful elections and we don't have to worry about that.
	And now we have become that sort of country and we know we have the media largely to thank for it.
	It's no big surprise when you go around telling people that you've got literally Hitler in the White House, and he's evil to his core, and there are police officers who are prowling the streets, hunting and murdering black people.
	I mean, these lies have consequences, and we're seeing the consequences, and they're intentional consequences, too.
	This is what the media wants, so I have nothing but contempt for them.
	Well, that's exactly what I was looking for.
	So, honestly, you've just given me what I was looking for right there.
	Matt, I want you to stick around with us as we welcome our next guest.
	I told you that we've made a new partnership with our friends over at Prager University, and indeed, we've always had a partnership with our friends at Prager University, from helping with the animation of some of the videos from the earliest days of the company, nearly the earliest days of the company, to also Michael Knowles and I and our own Jared Sechelle having the opportunity to work with Alan Estrin on many of the scripts.
	We've always seen PragerU as a bit of a sister company, and we're really pleased that we'll be working more closely going forward.
	And here to help us celebrate that new partnership, and to analyze the events of the evening, we have our dear friend, Dennis Prager.
	Dennis, welcome.
	I am your dear friend.
	You are our dear friend.
	I love you guys, and I did not expect to say this, but it is what it is.
	If the Republicans win, it's larger than Trump, but if the Republicans and the President win, You, and what we do, and Turning Point, and others, we have made a difference.
	And I am thrilled that we have, because this country is too important to the world.
	Lincoln was right, it is the last best hope on Earth.
	And allow me to say one other thing, the story of the day, Is is is the boarding of the stores in America's cities?
	You could cry that we have lived to see this day, but there's something even more dark about it That no one or what we are The media are not and a lot of Americans are not blaming the left for the fact that people are boarding up their stores right as if I heard a thing on one broadcast.
	I don't remember what.
	Chaos will break out.
	That's like when a five-year-old drops, spills grape juice on a white tablecloth.
	It fell.
	No five-year-old says, I spilled it.
	That's what this is.
	No one does the riots.
	It's chaos breaking out.
	At best.
	And that's if they don't actually blame right-wing pilots.
	Well said.
	That's right.
	And the shocking thing, too, is that these are not riots of the lower orders.
	These are riots inspired by the richest, most successful, most powerful people among us.
	Inspired and encouraged by media giants, by Amazon, by Netflix, speeding into a narrative that makes people enraged at their country and makes people feel that this is an evil place.
	The very people who have succeeded most here are the ones who are selling this narrative.
	So there's a phenomenon that I've been thinking about for a while here.
	There's an author named Nicholas, and I seem to believe he writes about this, called renormalization.
	And it's how fringe ideas are basically laundered into majority propositions.
	And I think that's what we've been watching with regard to the tolerance for rioting and looting by this small group of people.
	The basic idea here is that the if you have, let's say to do this briefly, let's say that you have a family and one of the members of the family is vegetarian.
	And they say, OK, I can only vegetarian, but you can eat what you want.
	The mom is going to make one meal, and it's going to be vegetarian for everybody, because she doesn't have time to make two meals.
	And then you take that family, and you put them in a block party, and they say, we eat vegetarian for our daughter, so you can make one meal, or you can make two meals.
	They make one meal.
	It's the same thing with regard to the rioting and the looting.
	If you have one intransigent and radical group that refuses to go along with any silent majority proposition, they can mobilize entire contingents of large-based companies It's also the weaponization of decency.
	This is one of my gripes with some of our friends who remain Never Trump.
	rioting and looting, but a diffuse, a diffuse downside to that.
	And until the American people say the diffuse downside.
	It's also the weaponization of decency.
	This is one of my gripes with some of our friends who remain never Trump.
	David French, John Piper, Mitt Romney, some of these guys who, you know, John Piper and David French, I think, have articulated this point of view the most eloquently over the past few weeks.
	But what they really objected, they'll say Donald Trump doesn't have character.
	And we all know that Donald Trump doesn't have traditional virtues as we might describe them.
	But as we've discussed online, he does have virtues.
	It's a different set of virtues and an important set at that.
	Not seizing power during COVID, an aversion to violence that we haven't seen in a chief executive really since Ronald Reagan.
	Those are actual virtues.
	They were virtues that were missing in our chief executives most recently in our history.
	He's not what we might call a decent man.
	He's not what we might call a nice man.
	And there is an important role in the world for decency.
	There's an important role in the world for niceness.
	There's an important role in the world for kindness.
	But it isn't the most important role.
	And one of the things that's happened with, I think, the Christian church, I suspect, the Mormon church, I suspect to some degree the Jewish community as well, is that since the 80s, we've started to pivot away from hard theological truths And pivot toward niceness as a replacement for religion.
	And this is why evangelicals, by the way, now are more likely to be socialist than to believe in concepts like the infallibility of scripture, which I'm not advocating for the infallibility of scripture necessarily, but it's certainly a long-held Christian belief that you would expect the evangelical church to adhere to, and yet instead they're leaning toward socialism.
	Why?
	Well, because their religion has been reduced down to Niceness.
	Niceness.
	It's been reduced down to decency.
	By the way, you know, I've devoted my life, and I'm finishing volume three of my five-volume commentary on the Torah.
	By the way, you should go and pick it up.
	Like, my wife reads it every Shabbat.
	It's fantastic.
	Is that right?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	You made my day.
	Thank you for that.
	Give her a big hug for me.
	I'm sure you will anyway, but... I will, in the great state of Florida.
	We're going to talk about how I'm taking you to Florida with me.
	Oh God, my son would love that.
	And, you know, God isn't always nice.
	Certainly.
	He's just.
	But not always nice.
	By the way, there is no biblical word for nice.
	There isn't.
	It doesn't exist.
	And my friend Jeremy Boren, I wish he could be here with us today, has pointed out frequently, you know, you have, you have pointed out frequently that Jesus isn't all that nice.
	It's very hard to find Jesus being like a pal, you know.
	He is actually... That's right.
	But he's portrayed in movies like a nebbish.
	So a nebbish, worse than a hippie.
	I've always wanted to... Wait, there's a difference?
	There's something worse than a hippie?
	I've often said I want to write a book called Jesus the Jerk.
	The way that Jesus treats people out of love, but biblical love isn't sentimentality.
	Right.
	Biblical love means that you speak to people truthfully, you tell them what's in their best interest to hear.
	Love, from a biblical point of view, would be telling someone the thing that no one else We'll dare to say to them.
	Also, you know, there are virtues for the moment.
	And this is not the moment for niceness.
	The thing about Donald Trump that I think has struck me from the very beginning is that I'm sorry it takes a man like Donald Trump to do what he has to do.
	But it does.
	I just don't think another kind of man, a nicer man, a more elegant man, would have stood up to the kind of pressure he's gotten.
	And that pressure... I don't understand.
	The issue... The Never Trumpers... A guy called my radio show today.
	And he was so sincere and eloquent and he just said, please Dennis, explain to me Never Trumpers.
	I know all of them.
	Most of them have made PragerU videos.
	And I said to him that in truth, I still do not.
	I cannot explain why God made the mosquito, and I cannot explain Never Trumpers.
	They are tied for first place among the riddles of life.
	How do you recognize the damage the left is doing to America and be a Never Trumper?
	To be slightly kinder to some of them, because again, I think we're friends with all the same people, I think that I will make a division between people who have basically decided that they have withdrawn from politics out of mere disgust at everything there is political, and they're like, I'm just not going to vote.
	Versus the people like the Lincoln Project who are actively fomenting people who are contrary to all of our values.
	I think that's what he was referring to.
	So if he's talking about the Lincoln Project, there's Democrats for it.
	It's a grift.
	I mean, honestly, I have no other way of putting it.
	It's a pure grift from these folks.
	Max Foote, who used to publish me in the Wall Street Journal.
	You wrote a couple of great books on... No, I don't know what happened.
	And he is the child of refugees from the Soviet Union.
	Or he came from the Soviet Union.
	And he called the week that Trump was elected, he said he is Stalin.
	Stalin?
	Trump?
	My mother would have said, wash your mouth out with soap.
	In fairness, the only difference between Donald Trump and Stalin is about 20 million people.
	That's the only difference, Dennis.
	That's a good point.
	That's a good point.
	Okay, so Dennis, let's talk about why you're staying here in this hellhole state.
	I have an answer.
	I've left.
	And I will tell you, I've been gone for like...
	A month.
	And?
	It's phenomenal, dude.
	Like, what are you doing?
	The air is clean.
	It's a red state.
	There's a great Jewish community.
	You have a kid there.
	What are you doing?
	Why are you paying your extraordinary levels of taxation to this hellhole state so that they can promote all the values you hate?
	Why?
	Because I have so many people I love here.
	That is the only answer.
	It is a good answer.
	They invented phones, Dennis.
	I'm sorry?
	They invented phones.
	The internet exists.
	You can't even see them due to COVID.
	I created a synagogue here.
	These are people I love.
	Obviously, we meet every Saturday.
	That's the issue.
	For me, people is first.
	People Uber Alice.
	I think what you're saying is actually important.
	One of the things, you know, it distresses me from time to time, the business that we're all in.
	There's something unpleasant about the business that we're all in, right?
	And we referred earlier to Moses not getting to go into the Promised Land and David not being able to build the temple.
	There's a cost that you pay to wield certain kinds of influence, a cost to leadership, A cost to wealth, a cost to fame, cost to the kinds of influence that we've built with our lives.
	We play in a space where we focus on politics as the most important thing that we talk about.
	But politics is not the most important thing that there is.
	It's a fundamentally left-wing premise to think that politics is the most important thing.
	Of course, the most important thing are the people in your life.
	The people that God has actually given you.
	Well, that goes to one of my core beliefs.
	You know, I've written a book on happiness, and I'm not mentioning it to sell the book.
	I just want to make that clear.
	I'm mentioning it because But he's not not trying to say that.
	No, no.
	I'm not not.
	Why do you use copy, folks?
	I don't give a hoot.
	I'm saying it because I have known from an early age how important happiness is.
	The moral significance of happiness.
	Yes.
	And here is where I do an hour every week on my radio show called The Happiness Hour.
	That's for 20 years I've done it.
	So that is a thousand hours of unhappiness.
	And every week I say, Okay, it's the happiness hour, because the happy make the world better and the unhappy make it worse.
	And I, I, while the hour is not political, on other hours of my show I have noted.
	I have never met a happy leftist.
	I have met happy and unhappy liberals, happy and unhappy conservatives, but there is no, no, the moment you become happy, you leave leftism.
	Here's a, I've made up a riddle.
	I've made up one riddle in my whole life.
	Ready?
	What do you call a happy black?
	A Republican.
	It's a good riddle.
	I think that one of the problems in religion, one of the problems with charity, you know, is that it's very easy to dehumanize people you don't have to interact with.
	So people love to give money to Africa or they love to give money to, uh, in foreign contributions, but they don't want to actually give money to their brother who they loaned money to five years ago and he kind of blew through it and it's a little bit of a drinking problem because he's a real human to them.
	They actually know his flaws.
	They're able to, you're sort of able to idealize people you don't know.
	And one of the problems that I see in politics is We take the actual communities that we are in and social media has made this much worse.
	We take the community we are actually in and we lessen its value to us in favor of these abstract communities of strangers who agree with us, who like us on social media, thumbs up the things that we say.
	I had this I had a conversation with my mom one time, and as all of us do, she got riled up about something that someone we know said on Facebook.
	She was upset about it.
	We've all been in that same position.
	But in that moment, I realized, like, that was my across-the-street neighbor when I was growing up.
	Like, when I was a small child and I would ride my bicycle in the street, if I'd been hit by a car, that's the actual person who would have come out and cared for me.
	And politics would have been meaningless in that situation.
	But because of the sort of evil temptation of politics, We're dehumanizing those people in our lives.
	You know, it's true.
	It's the old Charles Schulz peanuts gag.
	I love humanity.
	It's people I can't stand.
	And the fact is, I feel exactly the opposite.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	That's our defining element as conservatives.
	I've contempt for humanity and love humans.
	That's it.
	That's my line all my life.
	Bingo.
	That's the way I feel.
	I mean, every person I meet, I find something incredibly beautiful in them.
	Yes!
	At a race, we... No!
	You hit it on the nose.
	So we're going to get an update from our Daily Wire war room on what's happening in the various states right now.
	I know as much as you love our inside, you care the most about who's about to beat the president.
	So, Alicia, tell us what's happening out there.
	Hi, Alicia.
	I mean, what is fascinating is I'm hanging out in this war room with all the people that are gathering all the data, that understand all the data, like our very own editor Ian Haworth, and like, when I say, hear him say, wow, wow, wow, and like, what happened?
	Tell everyone why you're wowed.
	I mean, especially as an English person, if I show any emotion at all, you're like, okay, something's up.
	So what's going on?
	So after it looks like Florida was going, like, in the direction of Trump, fingers crossed there, we took a sigh of relief, blood pressure went down a little bit.
	Now we're looking towards Georgia and North Carolina.
	So we've got some data here which we found is fascinating.
	So New York Times projection for Georgia is 85% Trump and the New York Times projection for North Carolina is 75% Trump.
	Wow.
	So just some like data to add some context there.
	Georgia 24% reporting and Biden is outperforming Clinton by more than 10% in Fulton County, which is where Atlanta is.
	So we should take that with a pinch of salt because if they have huge turnout there, Stacey Abrams You know, the governor of Georgia, queen of Narnia, whatever her position is.
	She's pushing pretty hard for some vote to turn out there.
	Okay.
	And North Carolina, 67% reporting.
	So the numbers look a little better there.
	Holding our breath, because if those go Trump's way, this night's looking better.
	Well, I mean, we already said that if Florida went his way, which it is.
	It was gonna be an easier path to victory.
	I mean, you have been looking at the data in Georgia.
	So you're saying, like, fascinating that the projections are showing that it could be trending Trump, but you're still waiting on the Atlanta area?
	Yeah, I want to see some of those areas.
	Same as Florida with Miami-Dade.
	I want to see Biden perform weaker there before I start celebrating too hard.
	We have some Daily Wire members that are probably in the middle of celebrating right now as they are watching this.
	Thank you for that update.
	We'll come back to you guys when we have more updates, we promise.
	And for right now, we're going to get some member questions, because people definitely want to know.
	First of all, my mom wants to know if I have done ecstasy, and that's a hard no.
	Just letting Nana know there, no pot, no ecstasy, none of the things, never been to Coachella, don't plan on going at all.
	Wanted to toss a question to Dennis Prager, if we can, because we have some awesome Daily Wire fans over there, and they want to know from the great Dennis Prager, How long are you staying in California?
	No, I'm just kidding.
	You've already gotten enough trouble.
	You've gotten enough there.
	But, Dennis, is it actually possible to turn California?
	Do you think, like Dave Urban was saying earlier, are enough people disgusted with Eric Garcetti and Gavin Newsom that we could see a trend in, you know, two Republicans here?
	I don't see it because this is a puzzle up there with the mosquito issue.
	Why don't people hold the left responsible for what they do?
	It's a puzzle to me.
	California has been ruined.
	To ruin California actually takes an effort.
	It's rich, the greatest weather literally on earth, with the possible exception of Perth and Cape Town.
	I've looked into it.
	The greatest weather on earth, the greatest natural resources, including farming.
	I mean, natural in every way.
	We have everything.
	And it is the place of joy.
	Go west, young man.
	This is where the opportunities are.
	The left has ruined California.
	And they're not held responsible.
	This is what blows... The right is held responsible for what it doesn't do.
	We blamed uh katrina on bush right we dream we blame uh by the way we blame coronavirus on the president why doesn't why didn't the republican party take out ads then do you blame the belgian prime minister for the fact that there are more deaths per million in belgium do you blame every country's leaders for the coronavirus deaths or only america's leader because you hate trump
	So Dennis, I'm going to cite Dennis Prager back to you, because you know the answer to your own question, which is, this is a religious worldview.
	They have made leftism their religion, and so it's completely unfalsifiable.
	If leftism doesn't perform, it's because it has not been sufficiently tried.
	If Donald Trump is in office, then he gets to blame everything bad that happens on Donald Trump.
	And if Hillary Clinton had been in office, then what would have been, she saved two million lives.
	It's a completely unfalsifiable thesis.
	It's the answer.
	So it's no longer in the mosquito realm.
	Exactly.
	All I had to do was cite a man named Dennis Prager.
	His videos are now available at DailyWire.com.
	DailyWire.com, his videos will now be available.
	Dennis, if you'll stick around with us, we have another good treat for our Daily Wire viewers right now, and that is that we are joined by, and also joining because of the magic of the internet, it's a cross-stream.
	I don't know who gets to take credit for it, but you know, as long as it's me talking, I'm going to take credit for it.
	We're being joined currently by our good friend Steven Crowder, who is also live all night, the way that we are.
	Look at him, that handsome man.
	Yes, we are live.
	Can you hear me now?
	I can hear you!
	I can hear you, Steven!
	Well, I tried to call in, and then Dennis Prager over there was holding court for some reason.
	He's got a university or something like that.
	Dennis, we got stuff to do, too!
	Well, listen, I want to know what you guys expect tonight.
	I went through why I think it's far more likely for Trump to win than not, and how Biden actually needs to run.
	The only person who needs to run the board tonight is Biden.
	Biden needs to win Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
	He needs to win all of them if Trump holds on to North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, which I think he will.
	And I sort of contrasted this with the modeled party votes that we saw in states, and it was accurate, would we say, guys, to the letter with Florida thus far.
	Yeah.
	And I think we'll see it in Ohio.
	So what are you guys expecting?
	What's the feeling over there between the two Gentiles?
	Well, I guess one Gentile and two and a half Jews.
	So, as you know, actually, Dennis and I together add up to two Jews.
	like half and Dennis is like a Jew and a half.
	You know, the, the, I think that the feeling just should avoid the incredible discomfort that Andrew Klavan converted from Judaism.
	Yeah.
	We just ignore that.
	We pretend that they need the magic healing Steve.
	We'll see how it all comes down in God's legend.
	You should watch Andrew handle snakes.
	It is remarkable.
	By the way, Clavin will be the first person to find out whether he was right or wrong in this one.
	And you'll get a note.
	You're gonna get a note.
	So, I think that the feeling in this room right now... At least his note will include a tip.
	Go ahead.
	Cautious optimism, I think, is the feeling in this room.
	At least for me, cautious optimism.
	Right now, they're saying that North Carolina looks like it's trending Trump, Georgia's trending Trump, Texas is going to stick Trump, which means the next state that we're really going to find out about is Pennsylvania and Ohio.
	These are all too close for comfort.
	So I think, I don't want to get over... No, Ohio is not too close for comfort.
	Ohio is not a swing state.
	Steven, you spend more time than we do in the Rust Belt.
	I mean, you have a lot of roots in Michigan and spend a lot of time there and war with their governor routinely.
	Tell us what you're thinking about those states.
	Why isn't Ohio a swing state?
	What are you saying that we're missing?
	Well, Ohio is not a swing state because if you look at the early voting, and I had this up before, actually Donald Trump won Ohio by I believe it was eight points last go-around, but actually Democrats outnumbered Republicans in 2016, which means it was a huge portion of Democrats who voted for Trump, registered Democrats.
	And even now with the early voting, without any of today's voting in, we're already seeing Republicans with a pretty wide margin in Ohio versus Biden.
	So if you believe that Democrats will come out today and vote out, vote Republicans three to one, then maybe.
	Otherwise, I don't even think it's close.
	Now, outside of that, Michigan, there's about a four point spread when you look at the the modeled party model.
	But again, Donald Trump won that where he was down about four points again.
	So that would mean that if he's down four points, he could be up seven really in Michigan because a lot of Democrats will vote for Donald Trump.
	Now, I don't know that Donald Trump will be victorious in Michigan or Pennsylvania.
	I don't think we'll know Pennsylvania until we look in every single ditch and find a few extra million... But I will... Here's the question, right?
	Logically speaking, if Donald Trump hangs on to North Carolina and Georgia, which everyone was saying was a swing state, and I said, I'm very, very confident in Florida and Ohio long before Georgia and North Carolina.
	So if those go Trump, I am.
	I mean, I will eat this bag of coffee, Black Rifle, wonderful sponsor, if Ohio goes to Biden.
	And I also would be surprised to see Arizona go to Biden.
	So when people say that, guess what?
	Trump just needs to win either Pennsylvania or Michigan.
	If that map that I just laid out for you remains true, guess what?
	Biden needs to win Minnesota.
	Not enough.
	Wisconsin.
	Not enough.
	Add Michigan.
	Michigan, not enough.
	Pennsylvania, now he gets over it.
	What do we think is more likely?
	That Donald Trump keeps the states that we've all agreed upon here and wins either one Michigan or Pennsylvania, or that Biden runs the entire blue wall?
	I think the former is more likely, and Michigan could go either way.
	But I don't think Ohio is too close for comfort, Ben.
	I don't want to say that you're a defeatist, but come on, there's no way Ohio is going for Biden.
	I'd be very surprised.
	I'm still getting over Ben Shapiro being cautiously optimistic.
	for the rest of us.
	That's funny.
	Cautiously optimistic for Ben is still very negative.
	Steven, I have a question for you that transcends the political.
	Are you actually, are you strapped right now?
	Yes.
	What are you wearing?
	This is a wonderful, actually I'm going classic.
	This is a .357 Magnum, Smith & Wesson model 686.
	It's an old revolver that carries seven shots, a .357 Magnum and some moon clips in here.
	So we have many guns in this office.
	We don't live in California.
	I don't know if you're in Nashville yet.
	Are you investigating a murder?
	What exactly is going on over there?
	Well, you know what, I will tell you this.
	I wore it once for open carry and I came home and my wife just got very comfortable.
	Good enough for me, dude.
	I cannot argue with that logic.
	My wife likes suspenders, but who am I, Larry King?
	So I just wear the open carry, and my wife likes it.
	She's like, I really like it, and I enjoy it, and it makes me look tougher than anyone else on this stream.
	Which is good.
	Which is really all I was aiming for.
	Listen, if you didn't look tougher than the people on this stream, you'd be in real trouble.
	I will say...
	And I rarely pay you compliments, Stevie.
	Dennis Frager's a big guy.
	He's like six foot five.
	You don't want to wrestle with Dennis, that's for sure.
	But I rarely give you compliments on the account of I hate you and all, and I got Stevie waterboarded that time.
	You don't even need a gun.
	You're a freaking giant who practices Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
	I think that you're going to take good care of yourself.
	Well, um, thank you very much.
	But that being said, I've always avoided physical altercations, and I will say this to anyone who tells you this out there, if it does come down to a physical altercation, I'll take a gun, just like the whole Gracie family who created the UFC.
	They're like, in the street?
	What are you, out your mind?
	I'm going to go bang, bang, shoot, you're dead.
	So, uh, yeah, it's nice to roll on the mats and drunk Uncle Jiu-Jitsu, but otherwise they're getting some 357 or my wall.
	The real reason that he knows Brazilian jiu-jitsu is just because that's how he gets to know people and greets them.
	Literally the first time he came over to my house, he put me in a headlock and put me in a sleeper hole.
	That's a lie.
	Ben, correct that lie because you're an honest guy and I don't want the alt-right people to go out there with ammo and perpetuating a negative stereotype.
	I did not walk up and choke you.
	I asked you and you said, okay, be careful.
	And you forgot to mention that you had a hernia!
	You didn't even tell me!
	Okay, first of all, I'm Jewish.
	It goes without saying I haven't heard of you.
	It goes without saying I haven't heard of you.
	Come on.
	This is a true story.
	And then I was outside of Ben Shapiro's apartment going, I think you live where they shot the original Karate Kid.
	Steven and I have the weirdest non-sexual S&M relationship.
	The first time we got together in a room, he put me in a headlock, and then I watched him be waterboarded.
	And frankly, we just need to stay out of the same state, isn't it?
	You know what was worse than waterboarding?
	I was at Ben Shapiro's, and I thought we would never talk again.
	Because Ben Shapiro put me up for, I won't name it specifically, but he put me up, he recommended me, he was very nice, for a morning radio drive show.
	That's true, I did.
	Where it was like a news show, and he said, here, he had his whole, I think his show was in Orlando, he had his whole radio set up.
	And then, like, the day before I did it, I was going to go, I'm going to do what this show is.
	And they said, we don't want any opinion.
	It's straight news.
	I went, oh, and I bombed in Ben Shapiro's den so badly that I remember sitting there for five minutes before I opened the door just because I didn't want to look Ben in the face.
	I was like, you looked me in the eyes and they told me to do straight news.
	And I made a joke about it.
	Like, what?
	Ben said, what did you know?
	Like something about my penis size.
	I don't know.
	It's been a rocky road.
	But I know they didn't like it.
	I'm so sorry.
	I'm so sorry, Ben.
	So, no, I do remember that.
	It's been a rocky road.
	It's been a rocky road.
	Let's just focus in again on the fact that you have a wife and I have a life and all that.
	Let's go back to that.
	I get so long.
	Let's focus on the fact that you have a very, very good-looking wife, Ben.
	How do you?
	Curtis Cotter.
	I know.
	It's not a fair world.
	I mean, I think we have to take that.
	It is not a fair world.
	Hey, by the way, by the way, I just saw Ben Shapiro's sister for the first time three days ago.
	Really?
	It is amazing how much they look alike.
	She's not going anyplace good.
	But it's insane.
	It's insane.
	They look alike.
	Oh, God.
	They look alike, but she's also beautiful.
	It's kind of like a square circle.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	A friend of mine met the president for the first time.
	He's a middle-aged guy, and he has a beautiful wife, and he told me he met the president.
	This was basically the entirety of the dialogue, because they posed for a picture, and he said to the president, Mr. President, my daughter is currently interning, which she is, at the White House.
	He has four great daughters, this guy.
	Trump looks at the guy with total seriousness and says, I hope she got her looks from your wife.
	That was the irony of the conversation.
	Hail to the chief began playing in the background.
	That same story happened with Joe Biden.
	He said, I hope she uses Perk Plus!
	True story, and then we will have to let you guys go.
	We taped this video the other day where I was asking people about Charlottesville.
	Very fine people on both sides.
	It was a terrific video, by the way.
	I thought you did a great job with it.
	I made a horrible mistake.
	I said Charlottesville, North Carolina.
	Of course I know it's Virginia and Charlotte, North Carolina.
	That's one of those things.
	So fact check me!
	Um, but, uh, so I, I want to make sure that I'm clear about that.
	But what happened was, um, I don't remember what I was going to say.
	What were we talking about before this?
	Something.
	Oh, there was a lady saying that Donald Trump was sexist.
	And I said, okay, and you believe that and half Asian bill, my lawyer will like this.
	And I said, and you, you believe this?
	Why should I think he hates every, you didn't have any respect for him.
	And I said, okay, but you believe that Biden does?
	She said, yes, absolutely.
	And I did all of these equations in my head, I swear to you, within two seconds.
	I was this close to just leaning into her and going... And sniffing her.
	And then I said, no, wait a second.
	If I do that, I'll get sued.
	But then I said, wait, that would be absolutely hysterical because I could get sued for doing exactly what Joe Biden did.
	However, I don't want to be locked up in lawsuits.
	So maybe I'll just say, what if I sniffed you right now?
	And I felt like that would undercut the argument.
	So I said nothing.
	But all of those calculations in about four seconds, I just want to lean and go... I just want to talk about the maturity.
	The mature... Watching the maturing of Steven Crowder is... You're right.
	I absolutely... Three years ago, I would have sniffed her.
	I would have been, like, nibbling her earlobes.
	Thanks for hanging out with us tonight, and thanks for your prediction.
	I'm hopeful that you know more about the Rust Belt than we do.
	I'm hopeful that your way of looking at this is the right way, because I think the one thing we all know is that that hair sniffer cannot be the President of the United States.
	No.
	Right.
	Well, let me ask you one question.
	One question, everyone.
	Arizona.
	Arizona.
	How do you think it goes?
	Well, I mean, the way that Trump is performing with Hispanics in Texas, I'm a lot more positive than I was earlier today about Arizona.
	I thought it was nice.
	I think I got to favor him in Arizona now.
	What about the black vote that we've said might be the biggest ever for a Republican?
	So it is in Florida, but we don't have enough stats.
	We are seeing some movement.
	We're seeing some movement not really in Georgia as far as I've seen, but North Carolina.
	Some of the majority black districts.
	Hey Mensa members, let's stay on Arizona.
	I wanted to go out on a quick note.
	Arizona, does everyone say Trump or Biden?
	I'll say Trump.
	I'll say Trump in Arizona.
	The question is the Senate race in Arizona.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	All right.
	Thank you guys.
	Dailywire.com.
	Where's your stream for people to watch it?
	Dailywire.com.
	Thank you, Steven.
	And thanks to all of our friends at The Blaze.
	Absolutely.
	We may check in with you later.
	All right.
	Be well, gentlemen.
	We will see you.
	Be well.
	Be well.
	Steven, by the way, Tom Tillis is running a little ahead right now of President Trump's vote total in North Carolina.
	We haven't paid any attention to the Senate races thus far.
	Gardner's already out.
	They already called Gardner as done, but that was pretty much a foregone conclusion.
	Right.
	The ones to keep an eye on tonight are Tom Tillis in North Carolina.
	You want to keep an eye on Joni Ernst in Iowa.
	You want to keep an eye on Susan Collins in Maine.
	And I think that our friends in the War Room are ready to give us an update on what's actually happening from a data point of view.
	So let's go to Elisha Krauss.
	Hey guys, we actually have a lot of updates right now, and then we're going to toss it to Cassie in just a moment for some social media checkmark updates as well.
	Cabot Phillips, what is happening?
	So we let you know earlier, Florida is still looking very good for President Trump.
	Again, going to take a near miracle for Biden to pull that off.
	Now moving a little bit more north, Georgia, also looking very good for President Trump.
	35% reporting right now.
	The President is up about 15 points, and we're still waiting for more votes to come in from Fulton County, where Biden is about 80%.
	That's where Atlanta is.
	Now the real question becomes how much ground is he able to make up in Fulton County, Gwinnett County, Marietta County, all Biden strongholds.
	He's going to have to just hope that voter turnout is high enough to keep him there.
	The New York Times, though, is projecting, if you believe their projections, 81 percent chance of a victory for Trump in Georgia.
	Moving up a little bit more to North Carolina.
	The New York Times projection there, 86 percent chance of a Trump victory in North Carolina.
	78 percent of the vote reporting.
	The president does trail by about three percentage points at the moment, but a big part of that is what the expected votes are going to be coming a little bit later.
	Florida again, looking like an almost sure Trump victory.
	In Virginia, interesting situation playing out.
	Right when the polls closed, Fox News was the only polling service or only news outlet that called Virginia right away.
	However, A lot of other outlets are holding off on calling it because right now President Trump is up 20 points with 40% reporting.
	Wow.
	And some of those counties, the reason people are holding off on holding, some of the northern counties, Arlington County, Prince George County, other ones like that, Prince William County, other counties like that, traditionally places you'd expect Biden to perform, wasn't a huge voter turnout in some of those counties.
	So we're waiting for a lot of absentee ballots to come in.
	Those might be a little bit later to bring it more Democrat votes in.
	That's what the expectation is.
	But Virginia, much closer than people were expecting.
	Finally, the Republicans have lost their first seat in the Senate.
	Cory Gardner in Colorado wasn't polling well and, as expected, has lost.
	The Republicans down now to 53 in the Senate.
	Okey-dokey.
	Thank you for that update.
	We'll take Alabama.
	We'll get Alabama.
	To answer that question for you, Dennis, yes, a lot of outlets have already called Alabama, as you can see on the map over there.
	We're going to continue updating the map.
	And to update you here now about what's happening on social media, we have our very own Cassie Dillon.
	So right now on social media, all the talk is Florida.
	The left is very mad at Florida right now, to where The Daily Show has even put out a little video blowing up Florida, so that's quite interesting.
	And we also have Nicole Hannah-Jones of the 1619 Project announcing her next writing gig.
	She wants to write a piece about how the Latino community is contrived of ethnic category that artificially lumps white Cubans with black Puerto Ricans and indigenous Guatemalans, yada yada.
	So I guess the...
	I guess the Cuban vote is now cancelled out of the Hispanic community, according to Nicole Hannah-Jones.
	There's going to be actual purity tests now.
	But our lovely White House press secretary said that she's excited for the surge of President Trump in the Latino community and it's happening right now, primarily in Miami.
	And just one more quick update, it looks like the violence that was happening outside of Washington DC, outside of the White House, has now kind of slowed down and now it's a dance party.
	And so we'll see how long the dance party continues when we have more results coming in.
	Cassie, thank you for that.
	Although I have to say that I've never agreed with the left that words could be violence.
	Violence is just violence, like violence is when someone's fist connects with your chin.
	Now that I've seen that line dancing, I'm willing to reassess all of my previous positions on what constitutes violence and what does not.
	Here's something interesting.
	Henry Olsen, who's one of the best poll watchers I know, a very honest, you know, he's a conservative but very honest, never lets his bias get in the way.
	He forecast a Biden victory last year, last election.
	He was the closest to forecasting a Trump victory.
	And he said Biden's going to be a very comfortable win in the Washington Post.
	He's dialing that back.
	Is he?
	He's starting to.
	He says, he says, I don't like to eat crow.
	But the more I look at the data, the more I think I was too optimistic for Biden.
	He's not calling for Trump, but he is dialing it back.
	And that's that to me is very encouraging because he's just a smart, smart guy.
	There's an interesting sidebar that I'd like to bounce off you.
	I don't.
	This is not my own original thought, but I heard this many years ago and it turned out, I think in the Carter race, that in every presidential race, the happier candidate won.
	and And it's a very interesting observation.
	If President Trump loses, that would be an exception to a pretty ironclad rule.
	Could that possibly be true?
	Do we grant that Mitt Romney was less happy than Barack Obama?
	Have you ever met Mitt Romney?
	Mitt Romney, I campaigned for Mitt Romney.
	Uh, there's a certain, everybody acknowledges it, I mean there's a certain, uh, woodenness.
	That's fair.
	To his personality.
	He may be more, he may be more truly happy.
	Oh, I don't, that's, nobody knows who's truly happy.
	Alright, so your psychiatrist may know, your spouse may know.
	Oh, you know Bill Clinton is truly happy.
	Oh, I don't think so.
	Bill Clinton is truly happy.
	I'm taking back my happiness.
	I'm going to write a book on it.
	Certainly the more charismatic person has won, and in that case, Trump should win 50 states.
	Well, yes, that's true.
	Well, it started because Reagan was the antithesis of Carter.
	That's when the observation was made.
	And and that was very true.
	Yeah.
	You know, you know, well, well, was his the national malaise?
	His talk about anyway, as Jimmy.
	Can you imagine if this is just a thought?
	I can't imagine Jimmy Carter laughing.
	I mean, when you think about it, isn't that an interesting thing?
	Yeah, he was.
	He was a he was a grim guy to begin with.
	But after he lost that election, he became one of the most bitter.
	That's right.
	Exactly.
	That's exactly right.
	So, the other thing is, here's another fascinating question.
	A sidebar again.
	I have never seen the passion for a president that exists for Donald Trump.
	And that includes Ronald Reagan.
	I agree.
	And I love Ronald Reagan.
	But I never heard massive chanting, we love you.
	Yeah.
	This, I have the chills as I tell this to you, of people in cold weather, knowing COVID's around, standing together in the tens of thousands.
	I have two sons, one of them, as you mentioned, in Florida, one is in Pennsylvania.
	I purposely did that.
	This is my kind of American.
	I have one son in one swing state and another in another swing state.
	You know that there were 50,000 people?
	Unbelievable.
	In, in, in, uh, what was it?
	I forgot.
	Butler County, I think it was.
	And my son lives in Redding, Pennsylvania.
	Redding, Pennsylvania had 15,000 or 20,000 people.
	Yeah.
	This is, this is, I'm going to send this to you.
	You got to put it up.
	He sent me a picture.
	Of an Amish caravan.
	Did you see it?
	That may be my favorite picture of America.
	An Amish Trump caravan of horses and buggies.
	Trump, who has, I will say, a somewhat casual relationship with the truth, has said some very actually profound things in his time.
	Really, I'm being serious.
	And I think maybe the truest thing he ever said is, they don't hate you because they hate me, they hate me because they hate you.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And that is 100% true.
	And that's why there's the passion for Trump.
	It really isn't even just because, you know, Trump is Trump, and he's goofy, and he does funny things, and he's a good stand-up comedian, and he responds to the crowd and all that.
	It's because you represent us.
	Correct.
	The outpouring of absolute scorn, hatred.
	People despise Trump.
	And we're not falling for the trick.
	I think most Republicans, aside from, you know, a few of the people we were talking about earlier, have not fallen for the trick of believing that the Democrats are only doing that because they have disdain for his character personally.
	We recognize that the minute that Donald Trump is off the national stage, they will turn to whoever the next Republican is, and that person will become the repository of all evil, which is probably why Donald Trump was nominated in the first place in 2016, Because they did this to Mitt Romney in 2012.
	And we all went, hold up a second, you're doing this to Mitt Romney, the most milquetoast human being ever to walk the planet?
	And so we went, OK, we need somebody who's at least going to punch these people directly in the face.
	That's right.
	And that's what Trump was about.
	And then they have gone so insane over Donald Trump that I think everybody who is even remotely conservative looked at this and they went, wait a second, this isn't about Trump at all.
	Like, really deep in the cockles of your heart, it's not that you hate Trump and so you're upset at me for voting for Trump.
	It's that you hate me and so you hate Trump because Trump is just a stand-in for me.
	The evidence of this is that Donald Trump's character Donald Trump is probably the most widely known character of any character in modern media, right?
	Donald Trump has been famous 100% of the days of my life.
	And not just, like, a little famous.
	Like, rap stars rap about him famous.
	Like, he represented New York City.
	Like, you could put Donald Trump in a movie, and they did frequently.
	He represented the idea of New York.
	He had affairs.
	We all knew there were strippers.
	All of that was known.
	And we loved him.
	We celebrated him.
	The left elevated him.
	They loved him.
	Right up until he decided to represent us.
	Only in that moment did they decide that there was a problem.
	To me, one of the most telling statistics in the last 10 years is the fact that so many people were dying of opiate poisoning in the Midwest, in the middle of the country.
	That our life expectancy, the life expectancy of Americans was dropping solely because of deaths by suicide, by suicidal behaviors.
	And nobody knew it until two Harvard researchers stumbled on it and were totally surprised.
	That means that a vast number of our countrymen were dying and nobody knew because they were in flyover country.
	And even we on the right kept saying, yes, but your iPhones are cheaper because we're sending them out to China.
	We're making them in China.
	And Donald Trump got it.
	He saw that.
	He did another thing, too.
	People ask all the time, this is the Bret Stephens theory, who's the most disappointing to me, because he is a courageous good man.
	He's a good man.
	I want to say that for the record.
	And so he asks, what has Trump done to conservatism and the Republican Party?
	So this was asked to me from my local station in LA, AM 870, and we had an event, Sebastian Gorka and Charlie Kirk and Larry Elder and I. So we were on stage and the moderator said, so okay, I'm going to throw out a question, you've got to answer with one sentence, which is tough.
	Yeah.
	We'll start with you, Dennis.
	What effect has Donald Trump had on conservatives?
	And it's like, I thank you, God.
	He put these words in my brain.
	He gave them testicles.
	The place went crazy.
	And I know why they went crazy, because it's true.
	So here I have been saying for 20 years, we are in a civil war and only one side is fighting.
	Because of Donald Trump, both sides are fighting.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, I think this idea that he made America manly again is not so far off.
	That's right.
	The idea that he walks around without a mask, he gets COVID, he shrugs it off, he's back on the hustle.
	I actually don't disagree with this.
	You know, we were talking earlier about how one of the problems that's happened in religion over the last 40 years in America is that we've redefined the love of God as sentimentality.
	Yeah.
	We've also redefined sin.
	To where I genuinely believe that now the almost the definition of sin is masculinity.
	I think the church has basically said all things masculine are evil and the worst failures of the feminine are righteousness.
	So it's almost like the worst Of course, there are negative aspects of masculinity that do touch sin.
	The difference is they're now saying that even the positive attributes of masculinity are sin, and the most negative attributes of the feminine are righteousness.
	And so to be able to say to conservatives, to be able to say to men that there is masculine virtue, again, we can talk about how Donald Trump isn't the most virtuous person.
	What we're really upset about is that he represents a different set of virtues, and is completely lacking in another set, right?
	He doesn't have the kinds of virtues that we've come to admire, but he has...
	In high measure.
	Some of the forgotten virtues.
	And that's part of why we love it.
	That's a great way of putting it.
	The people who, forgive me for the language, I don't know what goes on on The Daily Wire, or the language-wise, but it's not a bad one, but the people who crap on his character... Oh no, that's way below our standards.
	I've already said bullshit three times on this show.
	He's degraded us entirely.
	Where were they with Ted Kennedy?
	Forget John Kennedy.
	Ted Kennedy, the Lion of the Senate.
	Waitress sandwiches.
	Yes, waitress sandwiches with Don, right?
	That's right.
	By the way, he was advising Joe Biden on his VP pick.
	Chris Dodd was on that advisory committee.
	That's right.
	And Ted Kennedy and Joe Biden really led all of the great character assassinations in the judiciary right over the last 40 years.
	The thing that people love about Trump is that Trump refuses to accept the premise of what the left is saying to him.
	And sometimes that means he rejects things that are actually true and that's irritating to people like me because I mean, frankly, I don't think that you should reject things that are true.
	But very often, Trump will just refuse the premise of a question in a way where you're like, no other Republican would actually have the stones to do that.
	For example, there was a lot that came out from that Bob Woodward book.
	Most of it was stupid garbage.
	But there was one exchange that the left really played up where Bob Woodward said to him something like, you know, America has a real policing problem with racism and America is kind of racist.
	And Trump said, oh, so you bought into that?
	And I heard that and I was like, OK, like you got to love that.
	You do.
	I mean, it's hard not to love that a little bit as a conservative, because the fact is that every other Republican pays lip service to myths and Trump does not pay lip service to myths.
	And so there are a lot of times.
	In which that is so deeply necessary, and you see his greatest successes are built on that, right?
	His great success in the Middle East is built on refusing to buy into a prevailing myth and just saying that that myth is just a myth, right?
	And so, like, we all focus in the media and people who are Trump skeptical, I think, we focus on the times when he calls something a myth that isn't a myth, right?
	Where he does, like, the crowd size thing.
	It's the biggest crowd size ever.
	But his refusal to accept the premise of nearly any question that is asked of him adversarially Means that many of the questions that are asked to normal Republicans adversarially, and they accept the premise, he refuses to accept the premise.
	So it's a package deal.
	Back to Jesus the jerk.
	One of the things I love is that he won't grant.
	Disingenuous question, never in the text.
	And that is, again, that is a masculine trait.
	You know, I'm reading Charles Murray's book on the differences between men and women, and women are, as I've argued many years, are more amiable, they get along.
	What about his forcing NATO?
	Oh, he's dissing our allies.
	Our allies have depended completely upon American money and know-how to guard them while they get rich.
	Right.
	So he says, excuse me, you made a deal that you spent X amount of your GDP on on armaments, but you're not doing it.
	Why is that wrong?
	Why should an American leader not say that to our allies in NATO?
	Right.
	Because it isn't nice.
	Because it is.
	That's it.
	And, you know, that's it.
	They got it.
	They used to put this thing out about Trump that he doesn't he doesn't pay his bills.
	And I would talk to people, you know, just ordinary working guys, and they would say to me, he doesn't pay his bills because people don't do the work he pays them to do.
	You know, they know what it is.
	I will say, I'm very friendly with a guy who's been one of Donald Trump's real estate attorneys for, you know, his entire career.
	Very high-end hotel real estate attorney.
	And he says that Donald Trump He's a bit of a Scrooge.
	He says that he, in the Trump organization, he would have to approve $500 expenses at hotels.
	Which, if you think about the size of his organization, it's remarkable.
	But that's right.
	He said, but I will tell you, every time he ever brought me to New York, which is dozens of times over the years, flew first class, car picked me up, car picked me up at the, brought me, stayed in the best, best dinners.
	He would lavish upon us in that way.
	But he didn't want to be frivolous with his money on the other side and maybe held on a bit too tight in that regard.
	And listen, I never want to be guilty of covering over what we know are character failings of the president.
	I think that it... Right, but that's not the criterion of measuring who should be president.
	I wrote this 20 years ago.
	Agreed.
	I wrote a piece, Adultery and Politicians.
	God wouldn't have chosen King David.
	He not only committed adultery and had a child with that woman, but had the husband basically killed.
	That's right.
	I mean, that's pretty serious stuff.
	All the way back to Abraham.
	He is the ancestor of our Messiah, all collected.
	A man after God's own heart.
	A man after God's own heart.
	Yeah.
	Is what the Bible says of David.
	I actually said this on Twitter today that, you know, people are saying, some people are saying the Christian church is failing because it supports now Donald Trump, when in 1997 or 1998 they went all in to say the character is destiny and condemn Bill Clinton.
	But the problem with that argument is it actually assumes That the Evangelical Church in 1998 was operating in good faith, and the Church now isn't.
	But the Church in 1998 was being political.
	It was trying to get its agenda through.
	That's right.
	Bill Clinton deserved to be impeached because he broke the law and committed perjury.
	That was a hard sell to the American people.
	And so the Evangelical Church, pursuing its policy preferences, constructed a theological argument, which is false.
	Which is that God judges a nation Based on the moral character of its leader exclusively.
	Which is, you cannot find a single biblical king, you can't find an American president, you can't find a king of England.
	God seems to go out of his way, actually.
	Who did God choose to let the Israelites into Canaan?
	He could have picked a Canaanite accountant, a Canaanite priest, a Canaanite saint.
	He picked a Canaanite prostitute!
	That's right.
	There's a message there.
	There's got to be a message there.
	Part of the message is that God is God, and that the virtue of a person does not make them more than what God is.
	God uses the weak.
	He uses the broken.
	He uses the sinful.
	First of all, because that's the only people He can use, because that's all of us on some level, but also as a way of saying, I am the one who's delivering you into Canaan.
	I'm the one who's giving you the land of promise.
	So long as recognizing the complexity of human beings doesn't mean dismissing the sin of human beings.
	Absolutely.
	And I'm not saying that the character of a leader cannot affect the destiny of a country.
	But more importantly... A very complex question.
	Schindler saved how many Jews?
	A thousand Jews?
	The man did an unbelievable act.
	The guy was a serial adulterer.
	Yep.
	And wait till what comes out.
	This is not revelatory.
	One of the major biographers of Martin Luther King has already come out with it.
	Of course.
	It's going to come out when the papers come out.
	He was a serial adulterer.
	Yeah.
	What are they going to say then?
	There's accusations.
	Great, credible accusations.
	Yes, that's right.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's really interesting to me just listening.
	There's a lot of IQ points in this room, and then me and Jeremy.
	And all of us are sitting here having serious conversations about Scripture and God.
	And every one of us, I happen to know for a fact, measures ourselves according to how we are moving toward God or away from God or what we're doing in God's eyes.
	That idea is completely ridiculed by our friends on the left, especially among the elites.
	That's right.
	You never see a serious conversation about that in the New York Times.
	You never see a serious conversation.
	Oh, they mocked Amy Coney Barrett for saying it, right?
	That's right.
	Amy Coney Barrett said that she was trying to live a godly life.
	Yeah.
	And serve God in her job.
	And they said, oh, that means you're a theocrat.
	Exactly.
	They're idiots.
	And I don't know what Donald Trump believes in his heart of hearts, but at least he's welcomed those people.
	I think he has become religious over the course of the four years.
	Maybe just to piss off the left, honestly.
	They were like, you're such an atheist godly.
	He's like, you know what?
	He says, you know, that's right.
	No, no.
	I have a column.
	Please, folks, on the Internet, I column from 10 years ago how the left keeps me religious.
	Somebody somebody told me that that God made Donald Trump president to save his soul.
	That's really interesting.
	It is.
	I agree.
	By the way, worth noting, five thirty eight says that right now, the way that North Carolina, Georgia, Florida are trending, the way that the Hispanic vote is trending in Texas and now maybe in Arizona, this is there.
	They're saying it's now 50 50 toss up election.
	We're getting really.
	Which means that it's all going to be horrific for a week.
	Because if it's a 50-50 toss-up election and it comes down to Pennsylvania, And you have the mess of Pennsylvania.
	It's all going to be lawyers.
	It's going to be lawyers and the Supreme Court in a mess.
	So, anytime there's a mess, the person whose point of view I want is Megyn Kelly.
	And that is because there are a lot of IQ points in this room, and ain't none of us as smart.
	No.
	Even all together.
	Yeah, all together, none of us as smart as our friend Megyn Kelly, who is back with us again right now.
	Megyn, thanks for making some more time for us tonight.
	What are you seeing out there?
	My pleasure.
	I'm following the 538 so far debacle, as Ben just mentioned.
	It is crazy how much faith people put in these pollsters.
	And look, I don't know how this night is going to shake out, but it certainly appears that Nate Silver, the guy with the pollsters on the left, completely blew Florida.
	And Trafalgar seems to have gotten it right.
	That's the one polling outlet that has been predicting Trump is going to win this race tonight.
	What I'm seeing so far in Ohio does not bode well for Trump, but it's very early and the vote's not yet counted, so we'll see, right?
	It tends to go blue at first and then it turns more red.
	But their vote counts a little higher in Ohio.
	So I would be watching that one because obviously Trump's not going to win this race if he does not win Ohio.
	The thing with the Hispanics is interesting.
	Already you've got people counting them as non-Hispanics.
	They're basically white Hispanics, so they don't count as minorities.
	Republicans can't claim them as their voters.
	But hey, they voted and they voted for Donald Trump.
	And it didn't just happen in Florida.
	They're voting for him in other states right now, to the surprise of a lot.
	And I think there's a question.
	There's somebody in Florida tweeting about this, that a top Democrat had complained to him privately.
	That it was the BLM support by Democrats there that turned off a lot of Hispanics because they don't want to defund the police, right?
	That they understand that that caused a lot of danger, caused a lot of danger in minority communities and elsewhere.
	And, you know, this is sort of a liberal dream that they actually tried in Minneapolis, Minnesota, only to totally reverse it.
	That was the George Floyd city.
	Right.
	So we're defunding them.
	It was a unanimous vote.
	And then they reversed it.
	And I think, you know, what we're seeing, we'll find out, because they'll ask, you know, what the reasons were in the exit polls.
	We'll show it.
	I don't know if they polled for BLM.
	But if that actually pushed Hispanics to the, you know, polls for Trump, it's going to be a major story.
	And who is voting?
	Please, just any of you know.
	I don't know the answer.
	This is an open question.
	Maybe Megan knows.
	Why is Ohio close?
	Who is voting, and I mean this sincerely, other than a leftist, who in Ohio is voting for Biden?
	I think it's college-educated whites.
	There were that many in Ohio?
	I think the big story of this election may be that Trump actually gets the inroads in minority populations that we've always wanted to see a Republican get, but he had losses among white voters that still managed to cost him the election, which will be an unbelievable story, will not validate the pollsters who've been so wrong so far tonight, But they'll be able to live to fight another day because if Biden wins, it actually doesn't matter if they blew Florida by almost six points, right?
	They just get credit because they were, they made the ultimate top.
	I think that's a major reason people don't tend to speak about this.
	When they speak about free college tuition, they really, excuse me, they really want everyone to go to college.
	College produces leftists.
	Is that, is that an unfair statement?
	No, it's not.
	And listen, I don't think colleges, I don't think the university, I don't think the academy can be reformed.
	I don't think that the media can be reformed.
	The legacy media can be reformed.
	I don't think Hollywood can be reformed.
	It's time for us to... You can't redeem them.
	That's right.
	You can't reform them.
	You have to replace them.
	And that's what PragerU is doing, where the Academy is concerned, it's what Daily Wire and Megan with her podcast are doing, where the media is concerned, we have to figure out how to do it with entertainment.
	They will try to shut us down.
	If they own everything except the Supreme Court, then they will do whatever they can to shut us down.
	The story of this election so far, obviously it's still early in the night, relatively speaking.
	The story of the election is the shift in the Latino vote.
	I mean, it's just, it's stunning.
	And what it really shows is that when it comes to the woke coalition, the strongest, and we know this by polling data, the strongest members of the woke coalition are the white idiots.
	They are.
	They're the strongest members of the woke coalition.
	Black Americans don't care about this woke crap, which is why they voted in favor of Joe Biden over Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primaries.
	Latino Americans are sick to death of this crap.
	The best tweet I've seen tonight is Republicans are winning Latino vote.
	Democrats are winning the Latinx vote.
	You know, you don't call themselves.
	Yes, of course.
	Just hysterical.
	And it's all these self flattering and self flagellating white people.
	We think they're going to lead minorities to the promised land by by by treating them as as not fully capable of making human adult decisions.
	It's absolutely wild.
	Megan, when you look at this right now, I mean, the media coverage so far, it seems like people are really holding back at this point.
	But we have seen some early indicators of the insanity from Nicole Hannah-Jones and a couple other reporters now reporting that Latino people are not Latino anymore.
	What do you make of it?
	Of course, you know, it's like a knee-jerk reaction.
	The fact that somebody like Nicole Hanna-Jones gets the credibility she does, you know, that her Pulitzer Prize has not been revoked for her joke of a 1619 project, which the New York Times is slowly taking out with an eraser without announcing all the mistakes that were in there, and mistakes as being charitable, intentional lies might be another way to put it.
	And then you've got Ibram X. Kendi, who was tweeting out when Amy Coney Barrett was nominated, like, I'm not talking about her.
	I'm just saying, historically, when white people adopt black babies, it's hard to colonize and exploit them.
	It's like, definitely not tying directly to her, only it was two minutes after she was announced.
	And these people have come out and they've paid thousands and thousands of dollars to educate white people in various corporations and so on, on how they are racist.
	I mean, it's like, It's insane, right?
	And so I do think, though, that the white suburban women have tended to be a problem for Trump.
	And I think they, a lot of them, have bought into the woke messaging.
	You know, they've been guilted so much by their neighbors that they're bigots and they're awful.
	If they don't, that they're signing up.
	They want to be liked.
	That's a good point.
	That's right, Megan.
	By the way, you mentioned about revoking the Pulitzer Prize, Megan.
	The New York Times has still held on to the Pulitzer Prize of 1934 to Walter Duranty who denied that Ukrainians were being starved by Stalin.
	Six million Ukrainians were starved by Stalin.
	Read Ann Applebaum's book.
	You know, it's a great book.
	Did you see the movie that came out about this?
	Did they come out with a movie about this?
	Is that right?
	The Holodomor?
	Yeah, it's really, really, really good.
	I should bring up, by the way, first of all, I'd like to congratulate Megan on her Ibram X. Kendi imitation.
	It was excellent.
	But secondly, I just want to point out that Ohio is closing very, very fast.
	It's getting very narrow.
	Yeah, they're saying that Trump has the momentum there in the final counties, and it looks like There's a decent shot that he pulls out Ohio.
	So if he pulls out Ohio, then obviously the next look moves on to, presumably, Pennsylvania.
	North Carolina is still there, although the New York Times is saying that their needle has him about an 80% shot to win North Carolina.
	So if he wins North Carolina, it goes to Pennsylvania.
	Given his performance in Ohio and North Carolina, that's very competitive.
	You saw him close extremely fast in the polls in North Carolina, in the polls, which have been systemically off.
	They're systemically off this year.
	If what we're seeing happening is happening, then... And the Amish vote in Michigan.
	Those horses are moving slow.
	Bad caravan.
	Thank you, Aaron.
	Well, Megan, thank you again for... In Pennsylvania, we may be sitting around for days and days waiting to see what happens.
	Well, that's right.
	We may have you on in hour 78 of our non-stop coverage.
	By the way, that is, for the country, in some ways, that's a nightmare scenario.
	Honestly.
	Yes, yes.
	If it goes to litigation... Well, let me understand.
	You guys, I'm sure, know this better than I. The judge's ruling in Pennsylvania is that if they will be allowed to open up ballots For how long after election day sent in, and they do not have to have a postmark prior to the election day.
	Is that correct?
	Did I get that right?
	No, so there's controversy.
	If it's smudged.
	Right, so the question is, if it's smudged, and if you see a wide spate of 100,000 votes that are coming in all smudged post-election, I have a feeling that's going to the Supreme Court.
	The Supreme Court put it off.
	They didn't say they wouldn't rule on it.
	They said that we're not going to rule on it right now because John Roberts is a coward who won't rule preemptively on anything that means that would put the legitimacy of the court in question.
	Of course, not foreseeing the possibility that the legitimacy of the court will be put gravely into question five days from now.
	He wants to be liked.
	He's just terrible.
	He wants to be liked.
	I will say this for John Roberts.
	It may be slightly more than he wants to be liked.
	I think he legitimately believes that the left will destroy the court If they make certain moves against the left.
	I think he thinks in day-to-day cases... The State Department legitimately believes that if America moves the embassy to Jerusalem, the Arab world will blow up.
	But Jeremy, that is still not the Chief Justice's job.
	I know the Chief Justice is trying to present himself like the PR agent of the Supreme Court.
	And maybe it's one consideration that he has that the Associate Justices don't have, but really his main duty is to uphold the Constitution.
	You know, my husband Doug said it's his theory of good-looking Supreme Court justices.
	He doesn't believe we should have any more.
	That's an excellent theory.
	I go to Georgetown cocktail parties and I start to love being loved and before you know it they go from over here to over here.
	He's like, no more, only unattractive ones.
	Yeah, I can definitely get behind that because then I have a shot as long as you don't have to have gone to college, be a lawyer, be a judge.
	I agree with you that it's not the job of the Chief Justice.
	One thing that I love about the court swinging with the addition of Amy Coney Barrett as far to the right as it has, is that that's actually not a partisan swing.
	Like, having originalists on the court is supposed to be what the court is.
	It's supposed to be nine out of nine.
	They should disagree about, like, the nuances of the law, not broad things like, do you have religious freedom?
	Or broad things like, do you have freedom of speech?
	That was never supposed to be what the court was about.
	And so I know the left has redefined court packing.
	Yeah.
	I mean, putting people on the court we don't like.
	But we're actually the ones who are depoliticizing the court by putting originalists on there.
	And the problem for George W. Bush with John Roberts is he put a partisan on the court.
	He did not put an originalist on the court.
	That should be a good cautionary tale to us all.
	I don't think he knew that.
	I mean, I covered the John Roberts confirmation hearings wall to wall for Fox News.
	I went down to the National Archives and read everything that guy ever wrote while he was with the Reagan administration.
	Of course, all of his judicial opinions.
	And I will tell you, I did not see signs of this John Roberts.
	I didn't see any signs of a potential suitor when I was researching Chief John Roberts.
	He looked like he was born in his little crib with his little justice robe on, getting ready to become, you know, the Supreme Court Chief Justice one day.
	He lived a life that was like, You know, sending him in there on like a fluffy cloud.
	So in George W. Bush's defense, I don't think you could see it coming.
	But I think you're right, because here's what Antonin Scalia used to say from the bench.
	I practiced law for a long time, but I also covered the high court for three years, sitting in that courtroom every day.
	And Scalia used to say, you want to say that the founders who wrote this document, the Constitution, foresaw a constitutional right to privacy, to an abortion, to same-sex marriage even.
	You go and convince the citizenry that that is how it should be.
	You don't get nine unelected people in robes to reread it.
	He's not saying it should never happen, I'm against it.
	He was saying, go convince the electorate that it's time for such a right to be recognized, and then we'll amend it appropriately. - Absolutely.
	May I ask, Megan, I'd like to ask you a question.
	Are you broadcasting, so to speak, from home now?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I just want to salute you.
	It is such a joy to see books in a house.
	I can't tell you.
	I recommend, seriously, people, even if they don't read them, have at least one room in their home with bookshelves with books.
	Yeah.
	Kids need to see books.
	They need to see them.
	They need to touch them, feel them.
	This is a home that says ideas are important.
	A home with books.
	Well, thank you.
	I wish I could say I've read them all, but I... Oh, no, no, I said it's irrelevant.
	He's a writer, and he took a lot of care in actually selecting which books he wanted up there, the ones he's read and the ones he wants to read.
	And kids are a little aspiring writers too, so so far so good.
	And by the way, Up until like 20 minutes ago, my nine-year-old daughter was here going through the New York Times update on which state is red and which state is blue, and I had my own little bell hammer here working the billboard.
	She was like, oh my God!
	Great stuff!
	Something in these books may be sinking in, Dennis.
	I think so.
	That's why I mentioned it.
	God bless you.
	Megan, thank you again for making so much time for us tonight, and congratulations again on your wonderful new podcast.
	Thank you, guys.
	Always a pleasure.
	See ya.
	And meanwhile, Tom Tillis, too close to call in North Carolina.
	Really?
	Yeah, Tillis and Cal Cunningham are separated with over 95% of the vote in by a grand total of, I kid you not, 500 votes.
	Wow.
	Oh, man.
	Out of 2.7 million cast.
	I was hoping it wouldn't be an ugly night, but it looks like it is going to be.
	For that, I want to go to our Daily Wire War Room and Elisha Krauss to look at the data.
	I'm glad that you...
	I assume that Jeremy is trying to call me ugly right there, but I think he was actually referring to what's happening with the House and Senate seats across the country.
	We have an update right now with the electoral map and Daily Wire's own editor-in-chief, John Bickley, here to tell us what's up.
	Yeah, this is where we stand so far, and some things are looking really good for Trump that are not yet showing up on this map.
	So if we could go back, we want to look at our original scenario.
	We talked about at the beginning, how does Trump win this?
	He wins seven of the 12 battleground states.
	The ones he needs, Florida, he is, a lot of places have called it, he's on the path to win it.
	Georgia, he's now at, let's see, 86% chance of winning with a lot of the vote in, about 50%.
	Okay.
	North Carolina, New York Times are projecting 95% chance of winning that.
	So these are three of the absolutely essential states.
	He's looking good in Ohio, and we're going to talk to Cabot about that.
	He's got some specific numbers for that.
	OK.
	Texas, he's performing pretty well in Texas.
	We think he's going to hold on to Texas.
	What this means is, if he can pull off these states he's trending well in, can secure Ohio, if he can get Pennsylvania in Arizona, he wins.
	He wins the night.
	Both of those he's pulled pretty well in.
	Pennsylvania key.
	We said at the beginning, this is going to be essential.
	It's looking good.
	We've got a lot to watch, but there's a reason to be optimistic.
	There's a lot happening, and we're still waiting, of course, on final tallies in Georgia and North Carolina.
	But as you guys have been saying, the predictions of the trends seem to be in the direction of a Trump-Pence win in those states.
	And now we're going to take it to the other part of the War Room, where Cabot is going to be giving us an update, because we're starting to see a lot of data, guys, starting to come in from the important swing state of Ohio.
	Cabot?
	I jumped in a little bit early there because I was so excited to tell you about all the new data that we're getting in.
	Ohio, one of the key states that people have been talking about, President Trump needs to have for his plausible map.
	74% reporting.
	President Trump is now up 2.4% in Ohio.
	He took the lead there about 15 minutes ago and since then he's been rapidly climbing.
	North Carolina, John touched on it earlier, 85% reporting.
	The president now leads 49.6 to 49.2%.
	The New York Times projections, which we've been talking about all night, they are now saying President Trump has a 95% chance of winning North Carolina.
	And in Georgia, 47% reporting, still waiting for some of those larger counties surrounding Atlanta.
	President Trump is up 14%.
	We're going to have to wait to see just how high the voter turnout has been in the surrounding counties.
	Around Atlanta and one more fun little nugget out there.
	In 2016, a lot of the betting markets gave a pretty accurate depiction of what was going on in the presidential election.
	This year, throughout 2019 and 2020, especially after COVID, President Trump was a big underdog in the betting markets.
	We can now tell you that President Trump is actually winning in most of the betting markets by a 2.5 to 1 margin.
	So if you had money on President Trump, I would suggest maybe selling it now, maybe pulling out a little early if you want to get a quick profit.
	But President Trump is up in the voting markets as well, or in the betting markets as well.
	So we're going to continue to monitor all of those states.
	Another race that we're looking at very carefully is John James in Michigan.
	This is a race that a lot of Republicans have looked at as a potential opportunity To pick up a seat for the Republicans.
	Right now, in Michigan, we have about 24% of the numbers and John James is leading.
	Again, we're going to continue to update you as we get more information there.
	Now, we're going to go to Wisconsin now, where we've started to get some data in.
	Ian was talking with me earlier about some of the results we've seen.
	A lot of people were interested in what would happen in Kenosha.
	And Ian was telling me earlier, Kenosha, what are the numbers right about now?
	About 68%?
	Yeah, so if we have a quick look at Kenosha, right now, live on the New York Times website, Donald Trump has practically doubled the number of votes as Biden.
	And early on in 2016, that was a very, very close race.
	So it turns down burning down your neighborhood and the Democrats just smiling along doesn't do great for the voting.
	So interesting to watch that county, of course, in addition to the rest of Wisconsin.
	So people have been asking a lot online about Virginia as well.
	This is something people have been saying, why aren't we talking more about Virginia?
	Again, to clarify for people just tuning in recently, right when the voting stopped in Virginia, Fox News was the first news agency to call it for Joe Biden.
	Since then, no one else has called it.
	The results in Virginia have been incredibly close.
	Right now President Trump up 53 to 45 on Vice President Biden.
	That's with 53 percent reporting in.
	Now one issue with that is there are a huge number of absentee ballots as well as early voting from Northern Virginia and then down in Newport News, Virginia.
	Those are two areas where Biden is counting on as strong areas for him.
	So similar to Atlanta where it's going to come down to voter turn on Atlanta to see if Biden can turn the tide there.
	And in Virginia where he is expected to win if he can Drive up that voter turnout in Northern Virginia, down in Newport News, Virginia Beach.
	He's counting on it.
	So, Alicia, we've got a lot of data to break down, but right now, continues to be a positive night for the president so far.
	Yeah, it's fascinating what's happening in there.
	Some people on Twitter and social media and even in the war room saying, OK, if the data keeps trending this way, could Trump-Pence have a redo of 2016 where, you know, the polls everywhere are upset?
	We will be sure to bring you guys more information as we get it.
	Back to you, Jeremy.
	Thank you, Alicia.
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	Guys, it's a horse race.
	What is going to happen in Ohio?
	Benjamin.
	Well, the latest that I've seen is that it remains a horse race in Ohio.
	Trump seems to be pulling into the lead in Ohio, so it looks like he's going to win Ohio.
	The real question is whether the narrow nature of Ohio, which is narrower than it was last time, is more of a tell for Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin and whether that translates over.
	By the way, worthy of note, Lindsey Graham has won his race in South Carolina.
	Lindsey Graham 2.0 wins his race in South Carolina.
	They spent $100,000,000 on that race.
	$100,000,000 to defeat Cocaine Mitch.
	$100,000,000 to defeat Lindsey Graham.
	$200,000,000 they just flushed down the toilet.
	Right down the toilet.
	This cigar is actually made out of their money.
	So guys, before we go any further, our good friend Glenn Beck, again, as with Louder With Crowder, this is a cross-stream.
	I can't say he's coming on our show, and I can't say that we're going on his show.
	It is somehow miraculous.
	They say you never cross the streams.
	It could be bad.
	In this instance, it's broadcast fluid.
	That's what it is.
	You know, thank you very much, Jeremy.
	If I can just stop you here for just a second and let me tell Ben, I was listening to you, Ben, on our local affiliate, KLIF, that carries you in the afternoon.
	I was listening to you today and you brought to mind, because I'm listening to all these young people that we're calling in, And they were just confused by the polls, it seemed, because it wasn't reflecting reality in their life.
	There are so many things that in popular culture and things that we've always seen in the past that just didn't match up with the narrative for the media or the narrative from the polls.
	Are we starting to see that come apart tonight?
	I mean, I think so.
	It's so hard in this business or any other to make the connection between The anecdotal evidence and the data, right?
	Because you get this data and you assume that people are trying to put their best inputs into the data, and it's still early, so we'll have to see.
	Florida's obviously a systemic polling error, I mean, off as much as five points.
	We still don't know how much it's going to be off in other places, but it looks like it's all off, and it looks like it's all off in one direction.
	And what that says to me is that less than people, you know, experiencing things, because I remember that in 2012, right?
	In 2012, there were a lot of us saying, well, the enthusiasm for Romney's so high, he's for sure going to win.
	There's a disconnect with the polls.
	Even more than that, it is that the absolute disconnect that is felt between our entire elite class, between the entire college-educated pollster elite class and working class, white people, working class Hispanics, working class black people, is almost unbridgeable.
	Because in 2012, I think they got it right because nothing changed fundamentally with the working class or with black or Hispanic Americans in terms of their voting patterns.
	But something is fundamentally shifting for the Republican Party and for Donald Trump.
	And it's whether or not he wins the election There's something very serious that's happening, and it's a political realignment.
	It's a class realignment.
	That's right.
	And it's a racial realignment.
	And that actually bodes extraordinarily well for the Republican Party, because if Donald Trump is able to start pulling, you know, 35, 40 percent of the Hispanic vote in the way that Bush was, but he's not talking about immigration reform, right?
	He's just speaking to people as Americans.
	And if he's able to start pulling 15, 20 percent of the black vote, even if he loses tonight, it's gonna be a lot easier for Republicans to pick up more of the suburban female vote than it was for them to break into these brand new voting blocks.
	That kind of goes to a question I asked our panel earlier tonight on who, if Donald Trump were to lose tonight, God forbid, but if he were to lose tonight, Who can fill his shoes?
	I was always against a Trump Republican Party, but the Republicans, I think they'd be excited in a way, some of them, that Trump would lose so they could get back to their own crony kind of business.
	And I'm not interested in that, and I don't think America is interested in that.
	So does this survive and transcend Donald Trump?
	Or if he would lose, is it back to the old party?
	No, I think it does survive and I think it transcends Trump because victory has a way of transcending.
	So the fact that he's reshaped the map, even if he loses tonight, which I, you know, we'll see.
	I'm starting to think he's going to win.
	But if he, even if he loses tonight, I think people are recognizing there are vulnerabilities in the Democratic firewall with regard to race and with regard to class that have been breached by Trump.
	And I think that you're going to see a lot of candidates on the Republican Party side pour through that.
	I don't, let's put it this way, I don't think you're going to see a lot more of John McCain and Mitt Romney.
	In the Republican Party's future, I think you're going to see a lot more of, you know, people who are Trump friendly than Nikki Haley's in the Ronda Sanchez.
	And those are the elites of the of the Trump friendly folks.
	And they're going to see a lot more of the Josh Hawley types who are open populists.
	I think that the style of the Republican Party has changed.
	I think it's changed in a way that's actually May have been changed quite positively by Trump.
	It's almost like when you have a piece that's bent out of place on a bicycle, like a bicycle spoke and it's bent out of place, you don't bend it to where you want it to be.
	You have to bend it too far the other direction in order to get it to bend where you actually want it to be.
	And I feel like maybe that's what Trump is for the Republican Party.
	What is the ballot number that you guys are voting on where you're Actually reintroducing discrimination.
	Sixteen.
	Sixteen.
	I've heard that that is close.
	How do you think that's going to do in the election in California?
	What are the consequences?
	And really, why the hell are you guys all still there?
	I'm not, dude.
	I'm not.
	I can't answer the question.
	I live in Florida.
	My state's red, my friend.
	I am out.
	I voted in Florida.
	I voted in a swing state.
	It was all mine.
	It was all me.
	If anyone gets credit for Trump winning Florida, it's me.
	I moved states just to make Trump win Florida.
	And Michael and I leave for our new homes in Nashville this week.
	So talk to the old man here.
	I'm just, I'm just, I'm detaching.
	I, you know, you get old, you know, get old when you have a lot of attachments, you know.
	Hey, can I, can I, can I change, can I change the subject for just a minute and congratulate you on entering the Broadcasting Hall of Fame?
	Absolutely.
	I was actually going to do it if you didn't.
	Which would not be the Broadcasting Hall of Fame if you weren't.
	That's right.
	Thank you very much.
	I, I, I think, I think any, you know, my name is going to have the plaque on the, you know, the door of the broom closet.
	It's one of those things I never thought I would get into, and it's such an honor, but now that I'm in it, it kind of cheapens it.
	It's good to have humility, Glenn, but the truth of the matter is, and I say this often, I said it to Michael and Alan Estrin just this week, I think that you're the greatest living broadcaster.
	You have a unique I mean, look guys, you've got enough alcohol.
	I know you guys.
	that I think is just unparalleled by anyone currently in the industry.
	And Drew is absolutely right.
	If they had somehow opted not to put you in the Broadcasting Hall of Fame, the Radio Hall of Fame, then the thing would have absolutely no value.
	Glenn, I want you to know that Alan and I did tell Jeremy he was completely insane.
	This was ridiculous.
	I mean, look, guys, you've got enough alcohol.
	I know you guys.
	That's all the booze talking.
	So let's move back to the election.
	Quick note, Josh Kraushauer, just a quick election notification.
	Josh Kraushauer with National Journal is calling Ohio for Trump.
	Trump is up by 2.4 with the Election Day vote still left to count.
	If Donald Trump picks up Ohio, we are one state away.
	Well, Arizona.
	Although the Hispanic turnout so far in the election would lead you to believe he may outperform in Arizona.
	It's going to be Raiders of the Lost Ark, right?
	I mean, this is going to be the unleashing of the godly force at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark for the media.
	Like, we're all just going to have to tune in.
	It's going to be just...
	It's an infinite regression of us watching MSNBC.
	We have to put MSNBC on the TV.
	If Trump wins, people will tune into us watching CNN.
	I was thinking the same thing.
	We should put CNN up on one of the... We've been talking all night about how we have to replace the legacy media.
	We won't have to replace it.
	It will end.
	It will be so...
	Pointless, if Donald Trump wins.
	Eyeballs will fall out of heads.
	It will burn itself down.
	It already is well on its way of burning itself down to the ground.
	But I worry about their phase two, you know, their backup, which I think is actually their first plan.
	I mean, you don't put as your vice president the one that every Democrat hated.
	To back up a guy who everybody knows, I mean, he's probably not going to make it to Pudding on Friday.
	So, you know, you've got those two.
	I think their plan here is to now create doubt and violence in the streets.
	And that's very concerning to me because I've done enough homework on what they're planning through the Transition Integrity Project, which is anything but.
	Are you guys concerned that... You know, I want to just say that one of the personality traits of conservatives is that when we see something to be afraid of, we immediately assume that it's going to work, it's going to come true.
	And I don't think that's necessarily the case in this present case.
	That is their plan, Glenn.
	You got it exactly right.
	But we're now living in a world where an invention that rivals the printing press in importance has come about, which is the Internet and the way the things we're doing right now, right here.
	And that has changed everything.
	And I think their plan is an old plan.
	I think their plan is from the old days.
	And I think information spreads now whether they like it or not.
	I think that their attempt, their open attempt to shut down the Biden story was...
	When you look at the polls, it didn't work.
	People saw it.
	They believed it.
	They knew it was real.
	They got the information.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure that old fashioned ideas like rioting and pushing and lying that used to work so well are going to work in this modern moment.
	We are actually out ahead of the curve because of what we're doing right here on The Blaze and on The Daily Wire.
	We are replacing something that has burned itself to the ground.
	And I don't know, I hate to be optimistic.
	This is coming from the one guy who's like, I'm not ready to leave California.
	Guys, thank you so much.
	He does remember the printing press.
	So he was there.
	Guys, thank you so much.
	And I have to tell you, when I first started The Blaze, I saw a network where everybody could work together.
	And I didn't know how it would work out.
	But I am so proud to be in the same business with you.
	And this is something ABC and NBC never did, never would have done.
	We're not competitors.
	We're all on the same side.
	We compete against each other, but we all go home friends, and it is really nice to be on the side with you guys.
	We're proud to know you.
	Thank you for your kinship.
	And listen, if you want to help us replace the media, go subscribe to The Blaze, Blaze TV.
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	May I just, may I just return the favor?
	Please.
	He's exactly right.
	You should subscribe to the Blaze TV.
	The greatest living broadcaster, Glenn Beck.
	Thank you.
	Thank you so much, guys.
	All right, we have... By the way, quick announcement.
	Maria Salazar has defeated Donna Shalala in Miami-Dade District 27, congressional seat.
	Wow.
	As a Democrat, there are a bunch of Florida seats that are moving into Republican territory in Florida.
	Dan Crenshaw won re-election.
	He was in a bit of a tough re-elect.
	Dan Crenshaw, good friend of all of ours.
	Pirate captain.
	All around awesome dude.
	Dan Crenshaw has won re-election, so that is excellent stuff.
	We'll have to keep an eye on Chip Roy, who's in a real dogfight.
	Yeah, and he's in a dogfight with Wendy Davis.
	If we lose Chip Roy to Wendy Davis... Well, his district, again, borders on Houston, and Houston is... Borders on Austin.
	Austin, sorry.
	Also, AP has called the Florida 26th for another Republican, Carlos Jimenez, over Debbie Mercalso-Powell.
	So that is another GOP pickup.
	That's a pickup.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	So this is this is not 2018 blue wave Democratic territory.
	The national polls are going to be off and off significantly.
	You know, this is not this is not a Biden 10 point win.
	This is this is at best, even if Biden ends up winning.
	This is like a Biden 4 or 5 point win, which is what puts it in dicey territory.
	Here's Henry Olson, who I promote because of his honesty, and he says, I never like being wrong professionally, but it's clear that Biden is not going to win the national vote by anything, like what every major poll's cross tabs implied.
	That means polling error of mammoth proportions.
	The industry will have a lot of serious thinking to do, whether they're capable of serious thinking.
	I want to welcome to the show, again, Daily Wire's very own Matt Walsh.
	Matt, thanks for coming back.
	I'm going to hand off both this segment and the show itself to Michael Knowles, on account I've got to go to the restroom.
	Forever.
	So now it's the Catholic hour.
	We're welcoming Matt Walsh and the Pope are coming on.
	Holy Father, thank you so much for coming on the show.
	Matt, thank you for coming on.
	I do want to take a moment, though, gentlemen, as we've said this, because you know the media are going to completely change the story, whatever happens tomorrow, and they're going to say the polls were actually right.
	They're going to try to convince us that these polls were right.
	They're not right.
	No matter how this turns out tonight, the polls got this wrong.
	Matt, what are you seeing out from your garage or your car or wherever you are right now?
	Well, right now I'm actually in a real building, so that's a step up for me.
	I'm in a building with a nice view of Nashville.
	I think, you know, the thing with the polls is I don't see after this What role polling plays?
	I think that pollsters go to the level of like, you know, back a few years ago, the psychics that you would call 1-800 numbers for.
	I think they go to sort of Ms.
	Cleo.
	I don't know what happened to Ms.
	Cleo, but they're, yeah, they go to a Ms.
	Cleo level.
	They really do.
	And I think part of that is they're trying to predict At some level, they're trying to predict what people are going to do on election day, but that's very hard to do, especially because everybody knows what they're predicting, and people are responding to those predictions as well, so it's just a really difficult thing to do, and I just don't know what role polls play anymore.
	Matt, you were very unfocused when the Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots were going all around.
	You were digging up stories that the mainstream media were not covering.
	There has been so much weird in this election season and obviously that might explain why these models got things wrong.
	What effect do you think the riots have had?
	What effect do you think the lockdowns have had?
	And what of this is just because Trump is an interesting candidate and Joe Biden can't finish a sentence?
	Well, I think the last thing you said plays a lot into it.
	I mean, at the end of the day, Trump has a lot of enthusiasm.
	And when you're an incumbent and you also have enthusiasm, that's going to be hard for anyone to overcome.
	And then when you've got the guy running against him, his brain is made of Soggy Cheerios.
	It makes it it makes it even more difficult.
	But I, you know, I was skeptical.
	I was worried heading into the election that because, as I always talk about, as Americans in modern society, we have the memory of house flies.
	I was worried that even though we had three or four months of rioting and these rampaging mobs supported by the Democrat, encouraged by Democrat Party, funded even by liberals, burning down cities.
	I was worried that it wouldn't factor in the end because nobody would remember it.
	But I think, it's still too early to say, but when you look at how wrong the polls were and the results so far, it's hard to think that that didn't factor in at least a little bit.
	And of course it should, because Like I said before, it's what have the Democrats actually done to attract new voters over the last four years?
	We talk about what, you know, what has Trump done to bring in new voters?
	Well, he didn't need to bring in new voters.
	He won with what he had last time.
	So what have the Democrats done?
	And I think Encouraging rioting and engaging this opening, you know, open bigotry and race baiting and shut, you know, advocating shutting down the country, putting us all, muzzling us in masks, throwing people out of work.
	That's not going to do it.
	That doesn't, that just doesn't appeal to people.
	So what I would want Democrats to do is, I know that if they lose, they're going to, they're going to say it was voter suppression.
	They're going to say it was bigotry, but reflect on the possibility that you lost Because you are horrible and unappealing on every intellectual and emotional level.
	James Carville famously said in the early 90s, it's the economy stupid about how to win an election.
	I think you might say, how to lose an election.
	It's the looting stupid.
	It's the arson stupid.
	There is some news coming out from Twitter.
	And I mean, it's not on Twitter.
	I'm saying it's from Twitter itself.
	There's a big alert at the top now that says, election results might be delayed.
	With the increase in voting by mail, there might be a delay in the announcement of election results.
	This means you could encounter unconfirmed claims that a candidate has won their race.
	I gotta tell you, Matt, I'm reading that, it makes me think that the libs think they're losing.
	How do you read the coverage of the election?
	Yeah, it does seem that way, and I would worry, I guess like everybody else, that if this thing does drag on for days and we go into Pennsylvania and they say they've got ballots they still have to count and everything, you worry about shenanigans there.
	I haven't been, like a lot of conservatives, I haven't been as concerned about things like voter fraud, but That does become a concern, because when they believe they are trying to unseat evil himself, literally worse than Hitler, and justify the means.
	I mean, anything you can do to make that happen.
	If you really are running against actually Hitler, then I would say pretty much anything you do to stop him is okay, is morally permissible.
	And at least that seems to be their attitudes.
	That would make me concerned about shenanigans.
	But as long as he's only the Mango Mussolini, then it's a little bit less fearsome than if he were actually Hitler.
	I think you're right.
	I think that is the attitude.
	There's something that is really confusing leftists tonight, and that is the increase in the Hispanic vote and the black vote.
	For Donald Trump.
	And this doesn't make sense to him, especially the Hispanic vote, because Donald Trump launched his campaign, we all remember, he came down the escalator, and he said that there are lots of bad people coming over illegally from Mexico, and they said, okay, he's lost the vote, and yet, for some reason, actually, it all went in the other direction.
	I know, Matt, you focus on culture so much more than, you know, the kind of wonkiness of various policies or economics, and I'm leaning in that direction as well.
	What is the lesson, actually regardless of what happens tonight, what is the lesson from just what we know right now for Republicans?
	Moving hopefully in four years or eight years or twelve years after President Trump, how are we supposed to proceed at the political level?
	What should Republican candidates look like?
	Well, if we're talking about what you brought up, you know, the minority vote and how that's shaping up, I think one lesson, maybe this is more a lesson for Democrats, but also it's on the reverse of a lesson for Republicans too, but, you know, Trump spoke to voters, the way I look at it, Trump spoke to all voters basically the same.
	We know he's kind of a brash guy and he could be vulgar and that sort of thing, but he tries to appeal to everybody the same way, on the same level, like it or not.
	But what you have for Democrats, they try to put people into different categories and they're very patronizing to minority voters.
	Maybe there are voters that don't like being spoken to that way.
	They just, you know, just give it to me straight.
	Just speak to me straight, like a normal person.
	You don't have to address me as a black voter or a Hispanic voter.
	I'm just an American.
	You can talk to me that way.
	And maybe we're discovering that that's what people want, regardless of their race.
	Treat people with dignity like they're human beings.
	It's such a shocking discovery.
	What a concept.
	I think all of us here at Daily Wire in 2016 were skeptical of Trump.
	Even some of us didn't vote for him.
	Some of us did vote for him.
	But we were all very skeptical.
	Matt, I know you were quite critical of him.
	You were quite skeptical.
	Now, obviously, much less so.
	He's won you over.
	This is true of so many of my friends and relatives, even, who didn't vote for him in 2016, who did vote for him this time.
	Was there one issue, was there one moment that shifted you, or was it just the combination of everything?
	It's not so much one issue.
	I guess like a lot of people who were in my camp in 2016, The concern I had about Trump was being a New York Democrat, and I was concerned about the policy, and I thought that he would govern like a New York Democrat, and he just simply hasn't.
	It's more like what he hasn't done.
	That has shifted my view of him.
	Now, there were other concerns and criticisms I've had of Trump, I had of Trump in 2016, that I still have now.
	So it's not like I've gone, I'm not wearing the MAGA hat exactly, but that was the main thing.
	And he has not governed like that, and he's advanced policies.
	What he's done with the Supreme Court, obviously.
	Look, I don't know if Trump is actually pro-life deep in his heart, but It doesn't matter because the Supreme Court justices that he's chosen, especially Amy Coney Barrett, the last one, that is the Supreme Court justice that any pro-life conservative would choose.
	And so that's how he's governing.
	Those are the choices he's making.
	What he actually believes in his heart doesn't matter to me, really, honestly.
	It just matters what he does.
	And so we've seen that.
	I just want to point out at this point that the worst possible case scenario, which is also the most hilarious possible case scenario, It's still very much on the table.
	There could easily be a $2.69, $2.69 college tie.
	No, 100% this could happen.
	Right now, Trump is trailing in Arizona.
	So if he loses Arizona, if he wins Pennsylvania, And if he receives one of the votes in Maine and both in Nebraska, you now have a 269-269 tie.
	Why is that worst case scenario?
	It sounds great.
	It's perfect.
	I mean, when I say worst case, I mean kind of best case, because like the fun just never ends at that point.
	Then it goes to the house.
	And here's the best part.
	You ready for this?
	So then it goes to the house.
	The House votes by state, right?
	So the House does not vote by the number of members of the House.
	So the states right now are divided 26-23 in favor of Republicans.
	If one of those states, if one, I think one is split exactly evenly.
	If one of those states, or two, move into the Democratic category, you have a 269-269 tie.
	It is solved by the next Congress after they are put into place.
	You have a 25-25 split in the House.
	And the vice presidency is decided by the Senate, which could easily be split 50-50.
	So then the bobcat becomes president, right?
	That's president bobcat time.
	Does Pence get to vote?
	He's usually the tiebreaker in the Senate.
	Does he get to vote for himself as a president pro tempore?
	I don't know that he's sitting at that point, right?
	You've now moved past the election.
	So it's pretty much a mess.
	That's that's the that is the early open all the Pandora's boxes.
	You know, I had someone unlock the tomb of the mummy like that.
	That's is Arizona.
	I noticed that Arizona.
	It's not looking great for Trump right now.
	It's not.
	Yeah.
	But with about 75 percent of the vote in, he's trailing pretty heavily, particularly Maricopa County.
	The suburbs around Phoenix.
	Right.
	That's why Sinema won her last race in Arizona.
	So Trump won Arizona fairly narrowly in 2016 and then Sinema won that Senate seat.
	So Arizona could be trending away from him.
	He can still win.
	The way that he still wins is he wins Pennsylvania, which he could do.
	And then theoretically, Nevada is out there.
	He could pick up Nevada.
	He could also pick up both of the seats in Nebraska and one of the seats in Maine.
	If he picks up both seats in Nebraska, one seat in Maine, not Nevada, but yes, Pennsylvania, he wins exactly 270.
	Wow.
	So, I mean, here's one thing that is for sure true.
	Everybody who said that this was going to be a complete blowout, everybody who said that this was going to be, that they never had, that there was no reckoning coming for anybody in the media, that the overwhelming majority of Americans were so concerned about the evils of Donald Trump personally that they were going to show up and vote him out of office in massive Ronald Reagan-like numbers, Barack Obama-like numbers.
	It ain't happening.
	And these people better get with the program because, here's the thing, if Trump were to lose narrowly, They're not going to have Donald Trump to run against next time, which is both a downside for them and a real, it's an upside for them in the sense that Trump generates an enormous amount of heat.
	But it is also a real downside for them because this entire campaign has been about Trump's character, not about anything else.
	If they had to run against the policies and on the basis of their own intersectional bullcrap, They'd be in real, real trouble.
	It's really true.
	You know, they're not winning.
	They're certainly not winning on policy.
	They're not winning on enthusiasm for the bull.
	Because right now, right now, remember, Trump is getting Hispanic votes.
	He's getting black votes.
	If that happens and he loses because of suburban white women, that category of voter went for the Republicans in every election since 2000 up until up until this one.
	Right.
	Right.
	So what's more likely that Republicans are able to pull back some of those votes in 2024 or that Republicans Lose all of the gains that Trump made with Hispanics and blacks, right?
	That becomes the calculation.
	Yeah, I suppose that the question does become what the party looks like after Trump, because if the party does revert to a kind of Bush era or Romney type of candidate, something tells me Lil Wayne is not going to be endorsing Mitt Romney, you know, or the Amish coming out in large numbers for Romney.
	I googled earlier Amish for Romney.
	It has zero search results.
	So, you know, obviously Trump is a unique figure.
	We'll see what happens after that.
	Ben, I think this is like Chekhov's gun.
	When you mention... It has to happen.
	It has to happen now.
	A good friend of mine said to me in 2016, when all the polls were going against Trump, I had already had money on the table for Trump and I hedged my bet a little bit.
	I said, I'm going to lose a lot of money.
	And he said, Michael, you're an idiot.
	He said, of course Trump's gonna win.
	I said, what are you talking about?
	All the polls are against Trump.
	He said, Michael, his name's Trump.
	In the movie, Trump has to win.
	And in the movie version of this, it has to be 269-269.
	It has to go to the House.
	It has to go to the Senate.
	If nothing else, this is the only election analysis in which Chekhov's gun has been mentioned.
	That's true.
	Tom Tullis is running ahead of Trump in North Carolina and seems more and more likely that he's going to win that Senate seat.
	If Tom Tullis wins that Senate seat, there's a very, very good shot that Republicans retain control of the Senate, which is like a fantastic backstop.
	If, God forbid, Trump were to lose, having the Senate in Republican hands is a massive, massive win because at least you can stop the vast craziness that is about to be unleashed on us if, God forbid, Biden were to win.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So, Matt, looking into the future, since you were so right about all of those riots that were going on in the past seven months, what do you foresee this evening?
	If Trump wins, if Biden wins, if we don't know who wins, are the cities getting burned down or do we get to take the plywood off of our stores and resume normal life?
	Well, I think the cities obviously are going to Experience the writing we're all expecting if Trump does win I mean if Biden wins probably there will be some to celebratory writing I don't think it'll last as long But I do wonder going back to you know the question of how was everybody wrong the polling was wrong and everything Because for me the what I never thought it'd be a Biden landslide, but the one thing even though I knew Trump was an accumbent So he's got a huge advantage.
	He's got a lot of enthusiasm the one thing that always made me think I don't know maybe Biden wins is that when you look at a All of these cities where there has been rioting are mostly peaceful protests.
	And even going back to the Women's March four years ago, a million people came out.
	And all they think, well, there's obviously a lot of enthusiasm against him.
	Where do those people...
	Why are they not showing up to vote?
	And you start to wonder, maybe these people don't really hate Trump as much as they claim they do.
	Maybe this is just they love going out for a riot or a protest.
	It's a lot of fun.
	Especially when you get a free TV out of the deal or a free microwave or something.
	But actually going to vote, that's like a practical sort of boring step, and you got to go down ballot, and you're looking at Senate races, who cares about that?
	I wonder if that's what it comes down to.
	A lot of these people, they'll grab the Molotov cocktail, but if it doesn't go boom and explode, they're just not as interested in it.
	Right.
	Every single year you hear the Democrats say, this year all the youth are going to vote, and we're going to have a blue landslide.
	And the youth are really excited, and they tweet, and they Instagram, and they TikTok.
	But they don't vote.
	They don't actually show up to vote.
	And that may be the case with the rest of these Democratic voters.
	Looks like some good time's happening at BLM Plaza in Washington, D.C.
	I can't imagine why a plaza that's been named for BLM would be outside of violence.
	I know, it's so straight.
	Whatsoever, because a movement that literally writes on the pavement, BLM equals defund the police.
	How could things possibly turn violent?
	Apparently people are hitting each other in the head with bats.
	I don't understand.
	How could that be?
	Why?
	Why?
	Here's an interesting little stat that in Lackawanna County, Pennsylvania, Trump is ahead by 20%, 20 points.
	This is a county that Clinton won by three points.
	Wow.
	Also worth noting, Univision had a poll the other day that showed that Trump was losing Cubans in Florida by 15%.
	He's winning Cubans in Florida by 40%.
	The Univision poll was off by 55 points.
	That's within the margin of error, though.
	I will say that my security guy had a beat on this.
	He is of, I believe, Cuban extraction in Florida.
	And he was like, yeah, you have no idea, dude.
	He was like, in Miami, Dave, he's like, people are showing up en masse, Cubans, Venezuelans, to vote for To vote for Trump.
	And it's hilarious to watch the media preemptively melting down.
	They're preemptively melting down.
	They're preemptively going like, oh, well, it's white people.
	Jemele Hill tweeted it out.
	But it's just the white people.
	It's just not.
	It's not the white people.
	It's the opposite.
	Yeah.
	So, like, he's actually not getting the white votes that he was getting last time.
	He's just getting way more minority votes.
	This is so funny.
	He's winning the popular vote.
	He's winning the popular vote.
	I mean, California hasn't come in.
	But with that said, the fact that if he wins based on elevated Latino and black vote, after they called him a vicious white supremacist for four years and suggested, as Jonathan Chait did, that voting for Trump meant that you embraced his racism, and then he wins not because of a bunch of quote-unquote racist, white, non-educated, High school education level idiots from the rural area.
	He doesn't win because of even those non-existent mythical people.
	He wins instead because Latinos and blacks don't see the world in the same terms as the idiot gender studies, Afro-American studies, white idiots in major universities.
	It's damn fantastic.
	It is.
	It's huge.
	I blame the Deplorables.
	You know, those Deplorables down in Miami-Dade.
	They're going to start renaming all of them because that narrative is going to fall apart.
	Los Deplorables.
	Los Deplorables.
	By the way, Trump's lead in Ohio is now up to about five points.
	It's now up to about five points.
	Wow.
	So that is bad news for them in Pennsylvania.
	Keep an eye on Arizona.
	That's the next one that we should be keeping an eye on.
	If he wins Pennsylvania, he can win without Arizona.
	If he wins Pennsylvania, and he loses Arizona, he needs to either pick up Nevada, or he needs to pick up both districts in Nebraska and one in Maine.
	Okay, so that's where things stand right now.
	The fact that it would rely on Nebraska and Maine, it's a wild country, man.
	A very, very wild country.
	Right now, the polls were tending to show a split in Nebraska.
	and a split in Maine, which would not be enough.
	If there were a split in Nebraska and a split in Maine and he loses Arizona, but he picks up Ohio, Pennsylvania, I'm doing the math in real time, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Iowa, that puts him at 268.
	How many points does Greenland offer, though?
	Because that's what I read.
	That's what I read.
	Because that's what I read.
	How did you feel about Crowder's analysis?
	I kind of was interested in that because he really doesn't know that area.
	Yeah, I know.
	He said Ohio wasn't wasn't competitive.
	Yeah.
	So he's he knows Ohio better than I do.
	Yeah.
	Spent a lot of time in Ohio and in that area.
	So he hit that one on the head.
	Again, if Arizona, Arizona is where it's.
	Yeah.
	But it'll be fascinating to see.
	Will the left, let's say that Biden wins in Arrow, which is still very much on the table.
	So let's put aside the preemptive drunken rivalry, which maybe we'll get to that later tonight.
	We'll see.
	But if let's say that Biden wins in Arrow, if Biden wins in Arrow, will the left put aside the intersectional crap?
	Will Biden use that as an excuse to say, listen, I didn't run on that and you guys are terrible and we're not doing this anymore.
	Well, that could actually be quite a good thing for the country.
	And especially if we have 51 in the Senate.
	I mean, if we continue to keep running it, that'll make a big difference because they just can't.
	It's just a lot of stuff they can't get through.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	That's those Senate numbers are looking much, much better for the Republicans.
	Uh, so this is, uh, but to watch the meltdown happening in real time, you can see it.
	You can see it.
	The, the, the meltdown is happening in real time.
	Members of the media are starting to lose it.
	Uh, they're immediate that they're shifting the narrative almost immediately.
	It's going from, look at all these paths that Biden has to win and Trump has no paths to win too.
	Well, Trump looks like he might theoretically have a path to win too.
	What are Biden's paths to win again?
	And, uh, it's, And remember, again, this could take weeks.
	I mean, Philadelphia is not going to report vote totals until 9 a.m.
	tomorrow.
	Detroit isn't finishing counting a backlog of absentee ballots until tomorrow night.
	It could take weeks.
	And you remember Joe Biden, the Biden campaign, leaked this earlier yesterday, which was that if it looked like Joe clearly won it, he was going to come out, he was going to declare victory, even though the campaigns had said they weren't going to do that.
	Now, I just don't know where it would stand.
	As we get to the end of tonight, is there any world in which one of the campaigns can credibly declare victory?
	No, then no one's going to be able to declare victory tonight.
	I can't imagine it.
	You think so?
	Yeah, if Trump wins Arizona, then he has the best shot at claiming victory.
	If he loses Arizona, I just can't imagine that he... It's just not a clear-cut election.
	It just ain't.
	I don't see how anyone's going to claim victory tonight.
	I think that it's going to be long into the night.
	We might have some indicators as to who we think is going to... Like, if Trump wins Arizona, I think at that point you have to start favoring the possibility that he wins the election.
	Yeah.
	But if he loses Arizona, You know, I still think you have to slightly favor Biden at that point.
	But this is way, way, way closer than anybody in the mainstream media.
	Oh, my gosh.
	My God.
	I mean, my God.
	This actually does not reflect the polls.
	Right.
	You know, the last election, I always had a gripe with this idea that the last election, the polls got it right.
	I mean, to me, when you're saying it's a 98% chance that Trump's going to lose and he wins, you know, I get why they said it was right.
	I get why they said that some of the numbers were right and they just read them wrong.
	But still, reading the polls is part of your job, right?
	I mean, anybody can collect that data, but you've got to read the polls.
	They read them wrong.
	And you can't just say, oh, we were right within the context of our entire wrongness.
	We were essentially right.
	But this is different.
	This is actually wrong.
	They were wrong.
	Already, you know, there's no there's no way for them to read this and then that raises a lot of questions It raises a question the most important question I mean we were having cigars out on my patio talking to Spencer and Spencer said they are not pulling a country that exists Yes, and and I think that that's really something that we have to examine, you know yeah, I'm really pleased because we have been debating this for a long time, you know, and I am always on the side of
	Polls are ridiculous, and data is ridiculous, and we should basically ignore the whole thing.
	And people call me a kook.
	Maybe I was a kook sometimes.
	But at a certain point, if the system breaks down, then the problem is they're modeling a country that does not exist.
	Matt, what credence do you give to the polls, if any still?
	I mean, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater here, but it does seem like they got something wrong.
	That's a good way of putting it, that they're polling a country that doesn't exist.
	I think it's a sort of a similar thing.
	We're talking about what happened with the black vote and the minority vote.
	That's a good way of putting it, that they're, you know, polling a country that doesn't exist.
	I think it's a sort of a similar thing.
	We're talking about what happened with the black vote and the minority vote.
	It's Democrats think, and we've seen this, where they think that black lives matter and black people are the same thing.
	And so if you if you criticize black lives matter, then you're criticizing black people.
	Whatever you say about black lives matter, you're saying about black people.
	And, of course, that's completely ridiculous and untrue.
	Black lives matter is an actual organization.
	And then you look at what they believe.
	And what they profess, it's got nothing to do with black people whatsoever, but this is how Democrats think.
	They think, well, this is what the black vote is.
	What does Black Lives Matter believe in?
	They believe in disrupting the nuclear family and they care about stuff like heteronormative thinking, whatever the hell that is.
	And no, this has nothing to do with whatsoever, but in their minds, they think it's exactly the same, it's an interchangeable group.
	And so they're trying to appeal to minority voters with this kind of stuff.
	And yet again, it's sort of like appealing to a group that doesn't really exist, or at least exists in much smaller numbers than they believe.
	And I think that's what's coming back to bite them right now.
	I'm looking at exit polls right now, and for what it's worth, this is so great.
	So here's the change from 2016 in the exit polls.
	Ready for this?
	Okay.
	Latino women, plus three for Trump.
	Latino men, plus three for Trump.
	Black women, black women, plus four for Trump.
	Black men, plus four for Trump.
	White women, plus two for Trump.
	White men, down five for Trump.
	That's it.
	That's I just... That's crazy!
	I mean, I'm sorry.
	Wow.
	Is it?
	Whatever.
	This is the alternative reality.
	We're living in it.
	Elon Musk simulation.
	Wait, this is not the alternative reality.
	It's the... They are the alternative reality.
	No, that's right.
	But it's, it's, it's so counter.
	It's so counter to everything they've been saying for years that it's, that it's, I mean, it's still astonishing, and it should be astonishing, and it shows why nobody should ever subscribe to the New York Times, but you should subscribe!
	I mean, not only for all the announcements that we've made tonight, Candace Owens joining the Daily Wire, moving with us to Nashville, and launching a show with a live audience.
	Not only that we now have PragerU videos available behind our paywall for all of our subscribers, not only that we are adding investigative reporters so we can compete with the mainstream media, and we are forging into new territory, but also because you gotta burn these suckers down.
	They are just awful at their jobs.
	They're awful at their jobs.
	I mean, if you did not know anything about alternative media, if you didn't know anything about replacement media, when you've just been watching this narrative, this night must come like a clock on the head.
	It must.
	It must.
	It must come like a brick to the face, because many of us, like even those of us who tend to trust more in the data, right, in the data that we're provided, like me, Even I've been saying, I'm not calling this.
	I literally said before the night started, I am not making predictions tonight because I do not think it is possible to make predictions on the basis of the polls that are in front of us.
	So I had no solid feeling about the night.
	I had no real solid prediction about the night.
	The only prediction that I made about the night is I thought that Trump would win North Carolina, Florida, Arizona.
	So we'll see about Arizona.
	I didn't have a good feeling one way or the other about Pennsylvania.
	But, if you watch the mainstream media, Trump was going to lose every single one of those states, plus Georgia, plus maybe Texas.
	Yeah.
	And they're just damned wrong.
	They're just wrong.
	I know.
	I, you know, this, this was, I've tried not to make any real predictions.
	If people ask me my feeling, I'll tell it to them.
	I put, I made a very modest bet with a Democrat friend of mine who insisted.
	He said, we got to put some money on it.
	I said, I made a modest bet.
	And I, you know, I bet for Trump.
	So he said, well, what are you basing that on?
	I said, absolutely nothing that you would acknowledge.
	Nothing that you would expect or acknowledge, but that's where the money's going to go.
	And you've been pretty steady.
	I mean, you have steadily, you know, you're the person I called up when I was in despair because you were constantly saying, I think Trump is going to win.
	And again, it's an open question.
	Who knows?
	But this is a repudiation of everything they believe.
	You know, they won't admit it.
	If Trump loses, they will not have to bite the bullet.
	And they won't because they're living in an alternate reality because they're trying to sell that reality to us.
	This is a good thing for replacement media.
	It does mean that people are going to start to say, you know, that Ben Shapiro, I thought he was a bad guy, but maybe he was actually telling the truth.
	Have you ever, I mean, I... I won't say that.
	I say this only somewhat jokingly.
	I know that we watch the big clips on the legacy media, but have you ever sat there in recent years and watched like an hour of CNN?
	Yes, an hour of, yes.
	It is truly, I was actually scandalized by it because, you know, we were talking to Rhonda Santos earlier.
	Governor Ron DeSantis, very nice guy, very intelligent guy, very serious man.
	To watch the way that he is portrayed, compared to Saint Andrew Cuomo, whose policies led directly to thousands of deaths in New York from coronavirus.
	The policies were at fault.
	And to see how those are portrayed, if I only watched CNN, like some of my friends and relatives, I would believe that as well.
	So it seems to me that is maybe priority number one, is you've got to crack that legacy media stranglehold.
	The important thing is that the Young Turks are completely melting down.
	I hear a report that the Young Turks are saying that, quote, many people of color hate themselves.
	Well, yeah.
	It's good when people learn no lessons from anything that happens in their life.
	It's one of my favorite things.
	It's like when they get hit in the face by a rake and then they immediately just jump right back onto the rake.
	It's like, OK, so you just basically said all black people should vote a certain way because you say Donald Trump is a racist.
	And as long as you just keep proclaiming Republicans racist, black people will keep voting like that.
	And Hispanics are all going to vote for you because you're going to call Donald Trump a racist.
	Plus, you're going to talk about amnesty endlessly.
	And suddenly all Hispanic people Who mostly, believe it or not, came here legally, are suddenly going to get on board with that, and then if they don't vote like you want them to, you're just going to say they're white.
	You're right.
	That is your solution?
	This is your solution?
	Okay, guys.
	The best they've got.
	Go for it.
	One of the things I tell my liberal friends, my few remaining liberal friends, is just for a couple of days in a row, read the New York Times op-ed page.
	And read the Wall Street Journal op-eds page.
	Not whether you agree with them, but the tone of thought, the level of thought.
	Because the New York Times op-ed page is literally like being in a nursery with a bunch of people screaming.
	Where the Wall Street Journal, they tend to trend right, but they discuss things at a very, very high level with very nuanced ideas.
	You don't hear anybody's being called Hitler, nobody's being called...
	At some point, at some point, you start to say, well, I want to be with the adults.
	Yes, of course.
	And it's like an age gone by.
	But speaking of a room full of people screaming, we do have to cut to our war room so that we can find out what is going on on a granular level.
	Matt Walsh, thank you for being with us.
	I'll see you over at the looting parade later on.
	We turn now to our war room.
	Guys, what is the latest?
	What's going on?
	I mean, what is going on?
	Missouri has now been called for President Trump, and I'm going to talk to our very own Ian Howarth about this.
	Editor here at The Daily Wire.
	We've been in the war room.
	We've been getting all the data.
	We've been looking at the projections.
	Tell us what is going on.
	I mean, Missouri?
	Yeah, Missouri was one of those that early on we were actually kind of worried about.
	But the last couple of weeks, The polls have really trended in Trump's favor, so it's good to see him tick that box.
	And we now have new data coming out of Ohio.
	So Ohio is the really exciting one.
	So we've been watching that, getting pretty excited in there.
	So 82% reporting right now.
	Trump is up 6.2%.
	So yet again, the polls seem to be off by over 5%, which is pretty shocking.
	In terms of the difference between 2016 and 2020, it's interesting.
	The gap is a little smaller.
	Around 5% difference between Biden and Trump right now.
	And Biden is doing well in like Columbus, Cleveland, as expected.
	So it's not like we're waiting for a ton of votes to come in.
	Okay.
	You read my mind there because my question is when it came to Georgia or Virginia or Pennsylvania and all of these battleground states that we've been talking about and looking at the data, I think everybody kind of wonders, we know that there's those metropolitan left-leaning bubbles and we don't want to call states or we don't want to get too optimistic because sometimes you can have an entire state that looks really red.
	But where the votes count, or not they count everywhere, but where the metropolitan population resides, it can skew to the left.
	But you're saying in Ohio, we're not at risk of that right now?
	I wouldn't be quite that... I want to hedge my bets a little bit.
	He's British, guys.
	He doesn't want to be that optimistic.
	It's impossible genetically.
	But 82% reporting is a good look for Trump.
	OK.
	And we wanted to talk a little bit about the Senate races.
	Ben, you touched on this briefly earlier and what the Senate was looking like in Arizona and North Carolina.
	I've worked on campaigns.
	Michael Moulse has worked on campaigns.
	It's hellish.
	Don't ever do it.
	You are a data wonk.
	And when we look at those presidential things coming in, Typically, lots of people go in, even sometimes P1 voters, will re-talk about they vote the presidential race and they ignore things further down.
	But, if things are looking good for Democrats or Republicans, depending on what the Senate race is, sometimes that can tell us what the up ballot is going to look like, right?
	Yes, I mean, firstly, thank you for calling me a data wonk.
	That's something I can add to my resume.
	That's very exciting.
	So, in terms of North Carolina, it's interesting because 89% reported Tillis ahead of Cunningham by 1.1%.
	That kind of mirrors the presidential race a little bit.
	Worrying for Trump with Arizona though, if we assume that logic is true, 74% reported.
	Kelly ahead of McSally by 10.3%.
	So that's a definite worry.
	A lot of the scenarios we talked about involved Arizona.
	So we're going to have to do some Restructuring of our math on that one.
	Lastly, though, one interesting state to look at.
	Georgia, 54% reported.
	Purdue ahead of OSSOF by 13.3%.
	One delicious fact about OSSOF, I think, is he lost Georgia's 6th district house race in 2017 for an absolute ton of money.
	He spent a ton of money this time.
	It's kind of deliciously funny when someone spends money twice and loses both times.
	Well, it's not just him spending the money twice.
	It's the National Democratic Party choosing to dump a lot of money into that race.
	It looks like it didn't turn out for them in Georgia.
	Definitely didn't work for them against Mitch McConnell in Kentucky.
	Or Beto O'Rourke.
	We'll be watching those races.
	Sorry, I just, whenever I hear his name, I have to laugh.
	We'll be watching those races across the country.
	And another thing that is worrying, unfortunately, a lot of people projected this.
	I made my grocery store and gun runs earlier this week in anticipation, unfortunately, of the potential for riots, no matter how election night came down, no matter who won tonight.
	And for an update on what is happening in Washington, D.C.
	and what we're seeing on social media, we have our very own Cassie Dillon.
	Cassie, what do you have?
	So right now in Portland, things are starting to heat up.
	It seems that Black Lives Matter protesters are walking down the street.
	Some of them are armed and they're chanting Black Power.
	So things are starting to heat up there, which is expected with that place.
	But in Washington, D.C., things are really starting to get heated.
	The protesters gathered in Black Lives Matter Plaza, and now they're starting to move further into the city around different neighborhoods.
	So right here in this video, you can see police are arresting somebody.
	They're on the ground.
	And then the next video, it looks like a smoke bomb has gone off.
	It's not tear gas, some sort of smoke bomb probably put out by an Antifa person.
	And then in another video, you can see Antifa gearing up.
	They're wearing these Halloween masks, which I actually bought for my Halloween costume, but apparently one woman's Halloween costume is also an Antifa person's riot gear.
	So they're starting to gear up there, and some of them have bats, metal bats.
	And police are trying to disperse them, so we're going to pay close attention to how the tension is rising throughout the night, especially as President Trump is looking a lot better in the polls and a lot better in the results.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that, Cassie.
	And now we're going to get a bit back to Jeremy and all of the guys.
	We promise the war room is still here, still working hard.
	We'll be coming to you guys with more information as soon as we get it.
	Thank you, Cassie and Alicia.
	Cassie, you're very talented, but you're also very young, and clearly you don't recognize those right-wing provocateurs from Portland.
	But we'll allow it for tonight.
	We'll excuse it.
	Fake news, but good work.
	Listen.
	Sorry, quick thing.
	Please.
	Can I just point out how full of crap the network news are?
	They still have not called Florida.
	Really?
	Really?
	Of course.
	They still have not called Florida.
	Florida is almost 100% in.
	There's no shot that Biden takes it.
	It's been over for, when did we call it?
	An hour and a half ago?
	That's right.
	Two hours ago?
	Ron DeSantis is raging about it on Twitter, as well he should be, pointing out that if this were Joe Biden winning Florida, they would have called this thing two hours ago.
	He tweeted out, President Trump is up in Florida by almost 400,000 votes, with more than 90% of precincts reporting.
	Why haven't networks called the race?
	It's a done deal.
	The refusal to recognize the obvious speaks volumes about the lack of objectivity of these outlets.
	He's absolutely right, and that's why we keep harping on it tonight.
	The media cannot be redeemed.
	The media cannot be reformed.
	The media must be replaced.
	And the only way to do that is to continue to grow organizations like The Daily Wire, which is why I've been telling you, leaking out little information all night.
	We told you we're starting a show with Candace Owens, who's moving to Nashville to join The Daily Wire.
	Told you that we're bringing the entire PragerU library to The Daily Wire.
	We told you that we're launching a new morning show called The Morning Wire.
	I'm also pleased to tell you that we are hiring three full-time investigative journalists so that we can start doing the work that up until now only the left has been able to do.
	Don't get cocky, kids.
	The New York Times alone has 1,600 journalists, but we're going to take the steps that are in front of us.
	You know the only way that you can eat the You got to start where you can start, and where we're going to start is small.
	But we're going to start, we're going to keep putting one foot in front of another, and we're getting out ahead even of our revenue.
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	You can be a part of the solution.
	Because, listen, we're all going to have to do whatever we can.
	If we're learning anything tonight, it's that the media, which we all know went all in for Donald Trump, They did so dishonestly.
	They did so with an agenda.
	They lie to you constantly.
	Let's replace them.
	Can I say something?
	I've been talking for over 20 years about the culture and moving into the culture and the fact that the right has abandoned the culture.
	And to sit here and to watch this clown actually do what I've been talking about is incredibly moving to me.
	And if you weren't you, I would actually appreciate it.
	I would actually give you a big wet kiss on your ugly head because you're doing an amazing, seriously pal, you're doing an amazing thing that has been waiting to be done but it took vision and it took Balls of courage.
	And I think that it's just listening.
	You wouldn't tell me what your announcements were before we came on.
	And I guessed a couple of them.
	But still, still, you're doing exactly what needs to be done.
	And that's a beautiful, beautiful thing.
	And I actually may be nice to you for, I don't know, 20 minutes.
	Well, not only is that the nicest thing you've ever said to me, it's the only nice thing you've ever said to me.
	I hope so.
	The bar was low.
	Well, your botched idiom did make me think of another botched idiom, which is very famously, fool me once, shame on you.
	Fool me twice, the point is you ain't gonna fool me again.
	And the legacy media has fooled us more than once, but certainly in 2016.
	And it looks like they fooled us again.
	I'm very excited too about everything that's going on at Daily Wire right now.
	But even if that weren't going on, There would have to be something, because there is no, no matter what happens tonight, there is no credibility left for that old ossified institution.
	It's in flames.
	The important thing is that I think that we can all recognize that Joe Biden really brought the front of the Mediterranean pressure back.
	He did.
	It's about time somebody did.
	Can we talk for a second?
	We haven't mentioned his name all night, even though he might be the president.
	Joe Biden is a complete non-entity.
	Of course.
	He is just a non-entity.
	Like, no one gives two good dams about Joe Biden or anything having to do with Joe Biden.
	You said, I think, in your video about, which, by the way, I want to congratulate you on while you're voting for Trump video, it was one of the most honest Uh, one of the most honest reflections that I've seen anyone in media give.
	It's very hard to ever be critical of your former position.
	You're wrong.
	You're wrong.
	I mean, that's right.
	But one of the things you said in that video is that Joe Biden is like a cardboard mask being worn by the radical left.
	I think that's exactly right.
	The reason we don't talk about him.
	It's because Joe Biden doesn't matter in the election at all.
	You and I had the opportunity, Ben, in the in the West Wing to meet with Jared and Ivanka.
	And we met with them separately, which I always think is an important part of the conversation.
	One day we went to the West Wing and we met with Ivanka Trump.
	The following day, we went to the West Wing and had breakfast with Jared Kushner.
	And that was three years ago.
	And in that meeting, we told them it's Biden.
	The biggest threat to the president is Biden.
	And they said, no, Biden, he's old.
	He's has been.
	He's a non-entity.
	It's going to be Bernie or it's going to be Warren.
	And we said, no, it's Biden.
	And the reason that you should take him seriously, the reason he is a genuine threat is also the reason you don't even think about him.
	He's not on your mind at all.
	That is what Biden brought to this race.
	Biden is nothing.
	And the argument, the pitch of the left is, If you hate all this chaos, the violence in the street, the masks, the lockdowns, the dying, the crazy Trump rallies, the crazy won't-condemn-white-supremacy-at-least-17-times-a-day, if you hate all of that, we could just go back to nothing.
	You don't have to have any opinion of Joe Biden.
	That's his actual strength.
	It may actually be enough to carry the day.
	Listen, Trump's having a wonderful night.
	I think no matter what happens, the pollsters were actually wrong.
	They were actually wrong in this election in a way that they weren't even wrong in the 2016 election.
	And that's even if Biden manages to pull this out at this point.
	There is still a chance that Joe Biden could be president on a platform of nothing.
	A nothing man on a platform of nothing who held no events and stayed at home in his basement, held no press conferences, could win because that is his actual value.
	In this moment.
	You know, I was at a Jesse Lee Peterson town hall last week, which I always enjoy doing.
	And one of the guys there was this very far left guy who calls himself Destiny.
	And he's on YouTube.
	And I don't want to rag on the guy because he showed up at this very, very right wing event.
	And I admired him and respected him for that.
	But he was talking about Joe Biden.
	In these glowing terms.
	And it reminded me of the people that even, even Knowles has held at arm's length who sit around and talk about, oh, Trump is a pious, you know, godly man who's doing, you know, the people we say, well, no, that's not what's going on.
	He was that guy for Biden.
	And I thought there are people who are just willing to jump into that ship who he was saying, oh, Joe Biden's going to bring back the rule of law.
	I thought it was going to be Chinese law, but you know, nevermind.
	And I thought it was amazing, amazing what people will believe if they think they can get what they want out of it.
	And I think he believed it.
	I don't think he was lying.
	I thought he believed it. - Well, you know, we always talk about Biden's best pitch as a return to normalcy.
	I think the Biden campaign is making that pitch, but it's a return to normalcy.
	The thing is, something about normal was wrong.
	The reason that Donald Trump won the nomination, the reason he won the general election, is because normal was wrong.
	By the way, the looting that we're having, the arson, the tearing down of the rule of law, the threats to the judiciary and the Constitution, that is all part of normal.
	It's the party of normal that's doing that, right?
	It's the party that's promising us normal.
	And so I just think we are trapped in this system of what normal was, obviously in the media and technology and politics and bureaucracy and all of that.
	And the wise people have pulled themselves out of it and said, wait a second.
	This normal thing, it's not the mainstream anymore.
	This is not representing what people want.
	This is not representing reality.
	And we, you know, you said it very wisely last time.
	I can't believe there's one wise thing you never said.
	It was amazing.
	I was drunk.
	You were drunk.
	It was a bottle talking.
	It was dark, yeah.
	But you said, I don't know if Donald Trump is the beginning of something, but he is the end of something.
	He is marking the end of some era that has run its course And who knows what comes next?
	That remains to be seen.
	But whatever was coming before it, that does seem to be over.
	It wasn't the people's normal.
	It was the elite's normal.
	And the thing about it is, until they actually form a global coalition that can crush the American people, they're not as far ahead as they think they are.
	They thought after 2012 that they had formed an unbeatable coalition.
	A coalition that could not be defeated.
	That coalition would win for all time.
	And then Trump won.
	And their assumption was that that was a transitory moment, and it was brought about by a bunch of extraneous factors ranging from Russian interference to the predations of Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook.
	And it turns out, nope, all that crap was real.
	And the real, honestly, I think there's a big question for the Democrats here.
	The big question for the Democrats is that if they win narrowly or if they lose narrowly, either way, Are they going to turn further to the left or do they learn a lesson?
	Because let's say that Biden wins, but he wins very, very narrowly.
	Does he turn to his woke left and say, you guys got to go because you almost cost me this election?
	Or does he say to them, I need you that much more because I have this slim a majority?
	And if he loses, does the Democratic Party say he lost because we rioted in the cities and because of COVID and because of a bunch of other factors?
	Or are they going to say, we lost because we didn't skew far enough to the left?
	And we need to attack to the Bernie Sanders, Ilhan Omar left?
	And I don't know the answer to that question.
	I don't think they know the answer to that question yet.
	But the best organized group in the aftermath of chaos usually is the one that wins.
	You know, AOC has easily won her district again, and I think it's really, it makes you Thankful that the Electoral College is in the Constitution.
	That's right.
	That it has to be gotten rid of by constitutional amendment.
	They can't just vote it out like the Supreme Court, which they can do.
	Because I think there are these pockets of leftism, but that's not what the country is about still.
	I don't think it's about this in Manhattan.
	I don't think it's about this in parts of Brooklyn, the heart of darkness.
	I think it's about these pockets of belief in this system.
	The thing about socialism is it's the oldest system in the world.
	The only thing that is new in politics is the idea that freedom should reign, that individuals should reign.
	Perfect.
	Socialism is essentially the value system of Kaine, right?
	Yes.
	Well, certainly a pharaoh.
	Well, if you did something, that something had value.
	I want that some change.
	I think it's even further than that.
	Whitaker Chambers, you know, the great ex-communist, he wrote Witness.
	One of the guys who brought Ronald Reagan over to the right, he said, people think of socialism and communism as this 150-year-old idea.
	It's the second oldest religion in the world.
	It began when the serpent in the garden said, ye shall be his gods.
	It's a gospel of envy, as Winston Churchill called it.
	And the sad thing is, it's not new, but it's also not going to go away.
	It's going to crop up in various forms again and again, and we have to beat it.
	Is this woman, what's her name, from the 1619 election?
	Yeah, Nicole Hannah-Jones.
	She's a not yet.
	One day after this election is over, I am going to write a piece about how Latino is a contrived ethnic category that artificially lumps white Cubans with black Puerto Ricans and indigenous Guatemalans and helps explain why Latinos support Trump at the second highest rate.
	It is a contrived category.
	Let's go win another Pulitzer Prize.
	Listen, back with us right now we have our friend Governor Ron DeSantis of the great state of Florida.
	Governor, what on earth is happening in your state?
	Why haven't they called it?
	Well, I think it speaks more about their bias than any of the facts.
	I think if Biden won every vote outstanding, he still couldn't win.
	The president's got a 400,000 vote margin.
	Not only that, we took out two Democrat U.S.
	congressmen in southern Florida.
	Two flips there.
	We had Eric Holder spend $15 million to try to flip the statehouse in Florida, and we gained five seats.
	We're likely to have gained a seat in the state Senate.
	So, I mean, this is up and down the ballot.
	This is a great performance for Republicans.
	And the fact that you have these networks, some of whom called Virginia before a single vote was counted, still not being willing to call Florida when the die is completely cast.
	There is no doubt about this.
	I think it's really frustrating.
	I think people have a right to be upset, and quite frankly, you know, you guys are probably getting more viewers leaving Fox and coming to watch you guys, so it's probably good for you.
	So you're saying it's not just a red mirage, as they've been trying to warn us about all day, but Florida is solidly going for Donald Trump.
	Oh yeah, no, for sure.
	I mean, he won by 115,000 votes in 16.
	He's tripled that margin at a minimum.
	And remember, CNN, NBC, all these polls said he's going to lose by five to seven points.
	Same old stuff, year after year.
	They haven't gotten election rights since 2012.
	And yet we kind of do this all the time.
	So at some point there should be a reckoning for this political media complex, putting out their phony polls, doing their bogus analysis, and maybe hold somebody accountable for it.
	Because it's one thing to miss one, but when you consistently miss in the same direction every time, you know, we think that there's an agenda at play there.
	And Governor DeSantis, worthy of noting that One of the factors in Florida that continues to be a big win for Republicans in that state is the increasing share of the Latino vote that is being won, prompting Nikole Hannah-Jones to of course declare that Latinos are now white, which is exciting stuff.
	And that apparently is holding true across the country.
	Star County, Texas is the most Latino county in the United States.
	It is 96% Latino.
	It went for Joe Biden by a margin of 52 to 47.
	So we are watching a historic realignment among Hispanic and Latino voters across the country.
	What do you make for that?
	And what do you make for that in terms of the future of the Republican Party?
	I mean, Florida may be what the future of the Republican Party looks like.
	Well, I think there's two things come to mind.
	One, kind of a larger issue of the Democrats going so far left.
	Left on cultural issues, left against religion, anti-American in many respects in terms of some of the causes they've embraced.
	And then I also think, more specifically, Biden was the lockdown candidate.
	Okay, locking down, stopping businesses, closing schools, that hurts blue-collar folks.
	Obviously, Hispanics are a big portion of that.
	It's not limited to that.
	But I think when he's talking about a dark winter, saying we can't have school, he literally did a video saying, someday we will be able to have friends over to our house and go to the movies and have kids in school.
	I'm thinking to myself, In Florida, we've been doing this for months, but I think it really spooked people because it's, you know, the media, they like lockdown.
	So Biden thinks, I think, thought that was popular.
	I think it worked against them in southern Florida in particular.
	As I mentioned, I think I mentioned earlier, we have Every county in Florida has school in person, and that's just so important for working class people.
	But I do think you are seeing a realignment.
	This is more of the working class base.
	It's a more populist base for the Republicans, somewhat similar to Reagan and Nixon in 72.
	But I think it may be, in some respects, more durable because I think it does cross racial and ethnic lines more so than we had it there.
	If you notice in Dade County, Obviously, he did very well with Hispanics, but some of the African American precincts, you see movement.
	It ain't winning a majority, but if you win 15% and you keep building off that, even if it's a percent a year, that hurts the Democrats.
	They can't find those votes anywhere else.
	And so I think that, you know, it's interesting.
	Donald Trump was viewed when he ran in 16 by the media as a racist.
	And they kept saying that.
	They always said it.
	And yet here he has, more than any Republican president, brought in people from all walks of life into the Republican fold.
	Governor DeSantis, they're talking a lot about, you know, the sort of shifting image of the Republican Party, that when Mitt Romney ran in 2012, this was a college-educated, largely white party.
	A lot of talk now about the idea of a multiracial and working-class party.
	As opposed to, you know, what the Republican Party was largely perceived as the party for the rich and white.
	What do you make of that?
	And what does this say about the future of the Republican Party?
	Whether Trump ends up winning or ends up losing, the polls have been dramatically wrong here and there is no shot that this thing is anything but a very nail-biting close election.
	Well, I think, I mean, a lot of the upper-income areas vote Democrat now.
	I mean, we see that the areas around Washington, D.C., the most affluent counties in the country are all heavily Democrat.
	Obviously, the New York City suburbs and whatnot.
	And then I think you get into those exurbs in the rural areas, and man, Trump is blowing off the doors.
	Now, part of that, I think, you know, there's going to be an economic component that Republicans, you know, are going to need to tend to.
	And if you notice what Nancy Pelosi wanted to do, she wanted to put the SALT deduction back in.
	That's a tax cut for the rich.
	Right.
	And so it's interesting how those dynamics work out.
	But I also think just on these core issues of patriotism, culture, and I do think the lockdowns, being against the lockdowns, I think that that really connects.
	And I think Trump is somebody, I think he was able to do this to a certain extent because, you know, I think I told the president the other day this.
	It's like, Mr. President, if someone had asked me when I was 10 years old, who's a rich guy, I would have said Donald Trump.
	Like, he was just so known by everybody.
	So people in my generation, in their 30s and 40s and 50s, we grew up with Trump.
	We knew him.
	He's not just a politician.
	And so I think now that he's in politics, people have a different frame of reference.
	And so I think it appeals to folks beyond the typical Republican folk.
	It obviously repels some of the more upper class who consider themselves so highly educated and whatnot, and the more elites, but I think he has a real strong connection with kind of the heart of the country.
	And look, he's won Florida, he's won North Carolina, he's won Georgia, he's won Ohio.
	So now we're at the point where, you know, if he wins Arizona, and I think the Election Day vote's gonna be two or three to one for him, so I think he still has a good chance of that.
	No, he's still one.
	He's one state away, just like we had anticipated.
	And all the media, you know, it wasn't a question of Biden winning.
	It was, could this be a Reagan-esque landslide?
	They were talking about 400-plus electoral votes.
	They were talking about a 10-point margin in the electoral college.
	That ain't gonna happen.
	Governor, you make such a great point here on the frame of reference, because the media, they play the same old story every time.
	Whoever the Republican is, he's a racist, he's a sexist, he's a bigot.
	And then when it's Donald Trump, you say, wait a second, I know Donald Trump.
	I know that he does none of those things.
	And so it makes you question the media.
	But when we don't have a nominee who is a billionaire TV star that we've all known for 30 years, When we have someone who's a little more in the usual line of political nominees, do you think that that will be able to carry over?
	That voters will remember, wait a second, the media do lie about these guys, they don't tell the full story, or do you think their power is going to creep back in when you don't have this unique type of Donald Trump candidate?
	Well, I think I think it's a choice.
	Do we build off what the president's done?
	I can tell you since I've been governor, you know, I've tried to do that.
	I mean, you know, we have places in Florida, for example, Gadsden County up here in North Florida, the most heavily African American county.
	You know, I show up in Gadsden County and work with the local officials.
	We work on different issues together.
	I mean, they're probably 100% Democrat, but we work together on common issues.
	And I think showing up And letting people know that you care, that goes an awful long way.
	And once you show up and they see you and they know you and they talk to you, not all of them may end up voting for you.
	But man, it's sure hard for them to accept a caricature that the media is going to try to do at some point, you know, in the future.
	And so, you know, some of my strongest Democrat allies in the legislature Our African Americans are representatives.
	I mean, we work with them.
	They help pass school choice for us.
	They support us on.
	We did a parental consent for abortion for minors, and they were lining up with us.
	And so, you know, there are a lot of issues that we can work together on.
	So you just got to be willing to show up and you got to be willing to make the case.
	And I think for so long, Republicans have said, well, we're going to lose 90 percent.
	So why even bother?
	But you know what?
	Yeah.
	If you lose 85 to 15, that does matter.
	And I think what Trump showed in Florida was in these Democrat counties in southern Florida, he didn't win Dade.
	He didn't win Broward.
	He didn't win Palm Beach.
	But he did better than he did in 16.
	And that probably was 150,000 votes in those three counties improvement in terms of his margin.
	And so I think it was really good.
	And, you know, in Florida, we have a good opportunity for this because, you know, not only do we have all not just this.
	I mean, these are Hispanics from all over Latin America, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, you name it.
	We also have a strong African-American community, but also includes the Caribbean Americans.
	I tried to put the first Jamaican American on our state Supreme Court.
	We had some litigation in that, so it didn't quite work out.
	But I mean, you have Haitians, you have Jamaicans, you got a lot of stuff down here.
	And my sense is, is that, you know, we have a chance to make inroads if we keep showing up.
	Governor DeSantis, I think you also personally deserve a fair bit of credit.
	You took an enormous amount of flack from the media for months.
	You were there whipping posts.
	On everything COVID related, you were the guy who blew it, even though you were the only person who was actually looking at the data and trotting out rational policy.
	And the voters of Florida, this has to be taken at least in part as a referendum on your governorship.
	I mean, the fact is that it's not just that Trump won the state going away.
	It's also that a couple of congressional districts that were not supposed to shift Republican did, in fact, shift Republican, including a likely Democratic district that was shifting Republican.
	Republicans pick up a couple of seats.
	They win Florida 15, Florida 18, Florida 26, Florida 27.
	And frankly, I think that a lot of that has to do with the fact that the people of Florida just don't believe the media's lies about you and the way that you've handled an issue like COVID.
	I mean, I understand now, and the fact is that that's the way it is.
	And, you know, we did two things that we focused on.
	One was voter registration.
	So we went into 2020, 200,000 more Republicans vis-a-vis the Democrats than in 16.
	And, you know, we had to put, you know, a lot of money into that.
	But I think that that was good.
	And then I think also the registration increases because people move here because they want to be governed in a better way than some of these really liberal states.
	And I do think that the, you know, Once you push to have society open, people don't want to go back to that, Ben.
	I know the media wants to shut everything down, and you could probably fashion a poll that will say people want everything shut down, but that's not how they behave, and they want to be able to live their lives, and we've given them that opportunity.
	The average American is not rich enough for the shutdowns.
	The most disgusting thing about these shutdowns, in my estimation, is that the people who call for them, the political elite, the media elite, these are all people who can work from home, who can continue to make six-figure and higher incomes Working from their homes, and then they act as though they're the champions of people who need to go to work to put bread on the table for their family.
	It's a disgusting thing they've done.
	Thank you, Governor DeSantis, for standing against it, and thanks for being with us again tonight.
	Thank you.
	One thing I would just add to that, you actually have people who support closing schools who turn around and send their kids to private in-person education.
	That is a disgrace.
	You didn't say it, we did.
	Thank you, Governor.
	God bless.
	Thank you.
	God bless you.
	I think that on that note, after wrapping with the governor of Florida, we should turn to our Daily Wire War Room and see what's happening in the state of Florida, one of the most important states in the country, Elisha.
	You know, Jeremy, you've been talking a lot tonight about that legacy media, and legacy media seems very afraid to call Florida, and the governor there rightfully calling them out.
	So we're going to do something that we've never done before in Daily Wire history.
	We've got the editor-in-chief, John Bickley, right here.
	Bickley, what are we doing?
	We're doing something very fun for me as a Florida boy.
	We're calling Florida for Trump.
	So let's look at it.
	This is an easy one.
	And why is it easy here?
	We've got over 95% reporting.
	He's up by 3%.
	There's no way that Trump loses this.
	It is absurd that it's not being called, just like the governor was saying.
	What that does, if we look at the electoral map here, is we see...
	A lot of wins building for Trump.
	Okay, so we're going to look at the electoral map.
	We want to see where the tally is.
	We have this tally of Joe Biden at 209, Donald Trump at 141.
	This is where we sit right now with all of the states that have been called by the Daily Wire and members of the mainstream media.
	Tell me what's happening in Georgia and North Carolina.
	Yeah, so we're seeing him build this heartland, deep red, Uh, base here, Georgia, North Carolina, like we said, trending his direction, most positively going to win those Ohio.
	He just keeps pulling away more and more in Ohio, an absolutely pivotal state.
	He's doing well there.
	Pennsylvania's still too far off.
	We can't tell.
	One of the things that's developing, though, that's not great for Trump is that Arizona's looking bad for him.
	OK, so if Arizona is looking bad, but he can pull out a win in those states that you just mentioned, we're going to look at a potential pathway to victory.
	What does that pathway to victory look like in this scenario of Donald Trump and Mike Pence losing Arizona?
	So when we did our initial analysis, actually our number two scenario was him losing Arizona.
	We thought there was a chance that would happen.
	If that does happen, how does he make up for it?
	There's actually an easy way to make up for it.
	Okay.
	Iowa has always been something that was very attainable for him.
	We think he's going to get Iowa.
	All he needs then is to make up for the deficit there, which is really only a few points.
	He could pick up Nevada.
	If he picks up one of these states here, like Wisconsin, which is actually he's turning well in, far beyond expectations.
	He was way behind in polling in that.
	There's some hope there.
	So there is a way that he could win still.
	Again, this scenario, which we thought was by polling data, the most likely would give him $273 in the wind.
	Okay, and I mean, Ben talked about earlier, there's a fear that could we be at $269, $269.
	This is you guys laying this out.
	And I have to tell the audience, and like giving credit to The War Room and all the editors and everybody gathering information here at The Daily Wire, We're not just like copying and pasting what other politicos are saying on social media and on television.
	These guys have worked really hard.
	These guys have been crunching the numbers and this is why we have all of these scenarios kind of laid out of what Trump's pathway to victory is going to be and why we're not rushing to call balls and strikes here in the words of Ben Shapiro.
	We really want to make sure that we're giving everybody the right information when we get it and revealing that once again, like 2016, Win, lose, or draw tonight, polling wasn't 100% accurate.
	Right.
	The gap here in Florida is like a 3% gap.
	Some of the other states, it's looking like a 5% miss by pollsters.
	This is a devastating, another devastating night for pollsters.
	No matter what happens the rest of the night, it's already devastating for them.
	And again, we've heard a very consistent narrative.
	And it's a, it's a sort of a depressed depression of the Republican vote.
	And I think that's why they're not calling Florida.
	I think it's pretty obvious.
	We need to call what's happening and seeing how it develops.
	This is what's happening.
	There is a trend here.
	It's a good trend for Trump.
	It's not that he's.
	He's cleared out for the rest of the victory.
	He's got a battle, but it's looking good.
	I, earlier in the day, had the final countdown in my head, and now I need to come up with a new theme song, because it looks like we could be here for a while.
	Right.
	But the only reason that we are able to be here is because of our amazing Daily Wire members.
	So I wanted to give you guys some questions from them.
	This question goes to Andrew Klavan.
	Historically, have presidential elections given any indication of gubernatorial races?
	For example, I and many in my social circle would very much like to see the governor of Pennsylvania deposed.
	What do you think, Drew?
	The presidential actions have an effect on gubernatorial races.
	So in other words, during the Obama administration, you saw state Democrats wiped out.
	People liked Obama.
	He was appealing to them, they thought he was a good guy, but they didn't like his policies, and they registered that by voting for Obama, but voting against everybody else.
	And I think also, you know, Politics is local at that level.
	That is local politics, and some of the things that are happening in the state may not be reflected in the national average.
	I think that if Trump wins this, it's the end of identity politics.
	I genuinely believe that.
	I think that identity politics is what The socialists use to replace class politics.
	Because in America we don't really have class warfare.
	But we do have racial tension.
	And so they use racial tension where they used to use class politics.
	If Trump wins this, that strategy has failed.
	And that is going to have an effect on every single race in the country for a long time to come.
	Because they have not got really anything else.
	We don't have class battles here in the way they do in other countries.
	I personally believe, and I've said this repeatedly, that the racial panic that is going on is a panic about the fact that blacks are now accepted as part of America.
	It wasn't always true.
	I grew up in a bad time for this, but it has definitely become true.
	The path to assimilation, to becoming part of America, an accepted part of America, is wide open.
	And that's why this kind of panic ...has started this kind of violent panic.
	If that goes away, if blacks reject that, if Latinos reject that, that's going to have an effect on every state in the nation.
	And so you're never going to have class politics here, class warfare, right?
	Because you may not have racial warfare, and you'll never have a war between the sexes, because of course everybody's sleeping with the enemy.
	So then you have to wonder, what do you move to next?
	And it seems like they've run out of options.
	It will be true.
	If identity politics falls apart, they are going to have to come up with... They will come up with a new strategy.
	I don't know what it is.
	But it doesn't matter, because this is a... I don't know if they can let it go that easily.
	Sorry?
	I don't know if they can let it go that easily.
	Well, they probably can.
	And that's the big question, because the people who are most invested in this particular point of view are not black and Hispanic voters.
	The people who are most invested in this point of view are the white, woke liberals who actually run the party.
	That's right.
	Meaning the people who work at the New York Times.
	The people who decided to give Nicole Hannah-Jones the editorship of the flagship of that newspaper.
	Yeah.
	The people who decided that they were going to infuse anti-racism, bullcrap propaganda into every single aspect of your corporate American world.
	Do you think they're just going to recede that easily?
	I really wonder if they are.
	If they lose narrowly, I wonder if what they say is that it's just because we nominated an old school, non-crazy, non-crazy person like Biden.
	And if they win narrowly, it's going to be because Joe Biden wasn't woke enough.
	Otherwise he would have won by a thousand.
	But if that happened on our side, we would call them out for their stupidity, and I think that would be true if it happens on their side.
	In other words, they may cling to the strategy, but the strategy has failed.
	Fox News, by the way, is calling Joe Biden winning Arizona, which is just devastating for Trump, obviously.
	Excuse me?
	Fox.
	Fox is calling... Fox called Virginia, too.
	Is Virginia still important?
	Virginia's out of play.
	They're calling Biden for Arizona, which means that it's now down to, basically, Pennsylvania and the blue wall.
	We're back where we were last election cycle.
	Trump has to flip now not just one.
	He has to flip one of those.
	He has to flip Pennsylvania and another one.
	Or Pennsylvania and Nevada.
	Or he has to flip Pennsylvania and Nebraska's second district.
	What is going on in Nebraska?
	Because on the map here, all the experts have it red.
	But I know that it's this kind of a weird situation where it's split.
	So Nebraska splits by congressional district.
	It is allocated.
	Some states do this.
	Maine does it as well.
	They don't allocate it winner takes all.
	Instead, they split it by congressional district.
	And so right now, I think most of the pollsters are saying that Trump wins three of the five electoral votes in Nebraska.
	He would need to win four of the five or five of the five.
	I mean, I talked to a pollster, a Trump pollster, I don't know, maybe three weeks ago, four weeks ago, who said Omaha is going to decide this election.
	And that could very well be true.
	They have called Ohio for Trump.
	So Trump has won Ohio.
	Biden apparently has won Arizona, is what they are suggesting.
	Which gives, again, Biden has a much healthier pathway to the presidency if Arizona is in fact in his column.
	It means that he now only has to win a couple of those blue states, not all three.
	The fact that they're calling Arizona this early at Fox News is not a good sign.
	The fact that they won't call Florida, though, means that I want to actually withhold judgment on Arizona and see what happens as they bring in a few more of those votes, especially because of what we're seeing in Florida with the Latino vote.
	See if any of that winds up translating into Arizona.
	I also want to get a few more questions in from our DailyWire.com members.
	They're the reason this show is free for everyone out there tonight, because they support us with their subscription, and we try to Provide for them great value for that subscription.
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	Elisha, what do we have?
	Yes, sir.
	And speaking of, you talked about the Latino vote in Florida.
	A Daily Wire member has a question for Michael Knowles.
	Do you think the difference between Arizona and Florida has more to do with Mexican immigrants versus Cuban immigrants?
	Groups do vote differently.
	However, Nicole Hannah-Jones, when she said that the idea of Hispanic is contrived, or Latino is contrived, that is true.
	That moniker is a creation basically of the 1970s and And, uh, late 60s through the 80s because liberal activists wanted to try to replicate what they felt was a successful civil rights movement based on racial identity, among other groups, and try to bring them to the left.
	And so they did it with Hispanics.
	They then did that with Asians.
	They tried to do it during the Obama administration with Middle East and North Africa.
	They called it MENA.
	It wasn't a great name, so it didn't catch on, but they're gonna try it again.
	Eventually.
	And so these are different groups.
	These are different nations.
	You know, Cuba is different than Mexico, is different than El Salvador, is different than Guatemala.
	I, you know, I have not been on the ground in Arizona.
	I've not been following Arizona as closely as Florida.
	So I can't give you the top reason, you know, with anything more than a guess.
	But it is the case, historically, Cuban-Americans, because they've fled a communist country, have sided more conservative and sided more Republican.
	Generationally, that has fallen off.
	And so you've seen recent immigrants, strongly conservative, next generation a little less so, and the next generation even less so.
	So we'll have to see what happened this time around, because the Cuban vote certainly went pretty heavily for Donald Trump this time.
	But it may vary on age, and then you won't be able to use race as quite so easy an identifier of political belief.
	All right, the next question is to the God King.
	Jeremy, where is the number one place in culture that conservatives cannot take right now that we should be trying to?
	The number one place that we cannot take that we should be trying to?
	I think we have three places in the culture that we simply cannot take.
	Not quickly.
	The left didn't take them quickly.
	They had a generational plan.
	They executed it to perfection.
	We're gonna have to do something much the same.
	Academia, obviously one of them.
	Conservatives have zero representation in academia.
	You may be able to think that that one conservative professor you had, that actually proves the point.
	That doesn't... that's the exception that proves the rule.
	Academia, of course, is propped up by government money.
	Academia is propped up by conservatives who hold to credentialism and believe that they're... that they're purchasing for their child a credential that will do them well.
	I had a conversation once with Secretary DeVos, our education secretary, wonderful woman, and yet I think she had a blind spot in this particular area.
	She was at this very hoity-toity fundraiser.
	And people were asking her questions, all very well to do.
	And the question was always, don't we need trade schools for people who just aren't right for college?
	Don't we need a place for people who just aren't the college material?
	Don't they need to go learn how to weld or, you know, learn how to be garbage collectors?
	I actually found the whole thing distasteful.
	I mean, first of all, the trades are where all the money's at in the culture right now.
	If you want to make a good living, learn how to weld, because there's more welding jobs available that pay six figures than there are in, for example, gender studies, where there are no jobs that pay anything.
	But that's not the only reason I found it objectionable.
	I found it objectionable because, well, frankly, more than half of all the small business owners in the country lack college degrees.
	Because some of the richest men in the world, Mark Zuckerberg, Michael Dell, lack college degrees.
	I don't think we should be telling kids You're not college material, so we want you to do something that we kind of look down on.
	We should be telling kids, you can do whatever you want.
	Drop out of college and be rich.
	Drop out of college and get some life experience.
	Drop out of college and start a business.
	Drop out of college and, yes, go to trade school, but that's only one of the options.
	But the main way that we're going to defeat the left in academia is to stop sending our kids there, stop letting them take on debt that they will never be able to repay for a credential that's utterly meaningless so that professors can train them to believe things that you raised them not to believe.
	The second, of course, institution is the media.
	I actually think we're doing better there than in any of the three, but we're still so far behind.
	Yes, The Daily Wire was the number one publisher, the number one most engaged publisher in the world on Facebook for the last three months, according to News Whip.
	But that's still nothing compared to the reach that the left has.
	They control almost all of the engagements, almost all of the impressions on social media, and of course they have their own media channels that are worth You know, billions of dollars.
	We have so much work to do there, especially in the investigative realm, which is why we announced we're hiring three investigative journalists here tonight.
	The third place where obviously we have an unbelievable hill to climb is in entertainment media.
	And in entertainment, I include music, I include television, I include film, basically all the things that we might call popular culture.
	Here, the left's domination of us is almost complete.
	You can count on your hands the films that have openly represented the worldview of conservatives.
	And you can even point to some successful ones.
	American Sniper, the number one best-selling, the number one box office generating rated R film of all time.
	Uh, which actually unseated the former number one rated R movie of all time, The Passion of the Christ.
	Both very similar stories in the sense that, uh, it was a story that Americans wanted, that Hollywood would never give them, that required a superstar actor turned director, uh, who works outside the system to bring us.
	Hollywood, did they learn any lessons?
	Of course not, because that's not a lesson they want to learn.
	They like the polarization, they don't want your money, and they know you're a chump, so you'll give them your money, even if they don't do anything to earn it.
	How much money?
	Well, Netflix alone spends $20 billion, that's $20,000 million, on content every single year.
	That is one single network on the left.
	All told, the production budget of Hollywood, I don't know if it's even knowable, it's probably well over $150 billion every year.
	This is why you wind up with Cuties.
	On Netflix.
	This is why you wind up with all the anti-Iraq war movies when George W. Bush was president.
	It's why every single election cycle of my lifetime we've gotten feature films about how bad the Republican is.
	We've gotten documentaries about how bad the Republican is.
	We've gotten documentaries about how great every leftist figure is.
	Why does everybody know Ruth Bader Ginsburg?
	Because she's a cultural cult figure.
	Because Hollywood will spend billions and billions and billions of dollars Promulgating their worldview and selling you their point of view, whether you want it or not.
	So what are we going to do where Hollywood is concerned?
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	Drew, can I just say that I think you're absolutely right about the Academy, that that's a long, a big hill to climb, and it's going to take a change of attitude.
	You're absolutely right about this.
	On entertainment, I don't think we need their billions of dollars.
	I think we can beat them in the same way Rocky beat the Russian boxer, because we, all we have to do is produce the content that people want to see.
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	It's not charity.
	I don't want to make movies that people feel like they're supposed to go see.
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	We're going to take one more question from a Daily Wire member in that spirit right now, from Alicia.
	Awesome.
	And this question goes to our very own Ben Shapiro.
	If Biden were to win, would we reverse all of the progress that we have made in the last four years, more specifically when it comes to international policy in the Middle East and continue with an armed conflict there?
	So my guess is that foreign policy is the area where the president has the most power because he's the commander in chief.
	He has the most power to shape policy.
	He doesn't really have to worry about Congress there.
	As Barack Obama showed when he launched an illegal war in Libya and then just maintained it.
	So that sort of stuff happens fairly regularly.
	Will Biden be able to dramatically reshape the Middle East without any sort of senatorial approval?
	And the fact that Republicans have been holding the Senate, and I do not think are going to give a green light to that sort of thing, is definitely going to provide some sort of check.
	I think he'll try to renegotiate something with the Iranians and with the Palestinians.
	I just don't think there's a lot of regional interest in that right now.
	So no, I don't think that Biden has the capacity to walk everything back.
	Will it be a lot uglier in the Middle East because Biden is president, if God forbid he wins?
	Yeah, it'll definitely be a lot uglier.
	But some of the realities on the ground have simply shifted.
	And because those realities on the ground are the new realities, I don't think that we're going back to a time when all of those Arab-Israel deals that just got made fall apart.
	I don't think that that's exactly what's going to happen here.
	I think that There's a high likelihood the opposite is going to happen.
	The reality is now reality, and Biden is going to be going up against reality, and not much is going to end up changing, despite Biden's most fervent efforts to the contrary.
	All right.
	Well, we are still here.
	Bickley and I are going to head back into the warm room, guys.
	Next time we see you, this map could look a little different.
	I sure hope it looks a little different.
	We don't know if that'll be trending in the blue or the red direction, but we're going to head back and toss it back to you guys.
	All righty.
	Welcome back.
	We're in this room again.
	And now we are joined by Eric Weinstein.
	Eric, of course, is the founder of the intellectual dark web and a heterodox thinker who is no longer welcome in his formerly leftist circles because of his heterodoxy.
	So you're welcome here.
	So welcome.
	They told me this was a meeting of the workman's circle.
	So you've been watching the results come in, Eric.
	And you're as a heterodox thinker and somebody who's been sort of touting the fact that Trump has unique appeal to crowds that, you know, historically have not been Republican.
	You've been sort of sounding the alarm on this for quite a while.
	What was it that folks on the left, you're of the left in terms of your policy.
	Well, I'm of the intellectual left, not the current Democratic Party version of the left.
	Right.
	You're not of the white left.
	I don't understand.
	Right.
	So what is it that everybody missed about Trump here?
	Because regardless of how this election goes, it is a hell of a lot closer than it was supposed to be.
	Yeah, but everybody's been lying.
	The point is, it's very difficult to keep talking about preference falsification when nobody listens.
	It's very difficult to talk to the left about the fact that scolding people, that they should feel guilty because they resemble people who hundreds of years owned other people.
	You're not winning friends' hearts, minds.
	You're not making sense.
	To be blunt about it, I just don't understand what the post-Clinton democratic left is doing institutionally, because this isn't what left-of-center politics are supposed to be.
	This is completely incoherent.
	It's a repudiation of everything that we know about... I mean, the heart of being a progressive is the word progress.
	So at one point you could have been a progressive and thought that communism was going to be progress because it hadn't been tried.
	But, you know, a few unmarked graves later, you have to reevaluate whether or not you wish to tie your wagon to Stalin's star.
	In this situation, we're just seeing people lying continuously about Donald Trump.
	And the idea that every person who doesn't go along with you is a white supremacist, whether or not that person is black or Asian or Jewish, This has never made sense to anybody who isn't part of the cult.
	And I just, I guess what I, you know, I had a tweet a while back, but I will be very surprised if there isn't a stronger than expected Trump surge.
	And while it's too early to call the election one way or the other, it's certainly not too early to call the fact that once again, it appears to be off.
	So with that said, you know, right now, It seems like there is still a good possibility that Biden wins, albeit narrowly, because Trump would have to at this point if he ABC is also called Arizona for Biden.
	That means that Trump needs to win Pennsylvania and obviously Iowa and he needs to win Nevada or he needs to win another state in order for that to manifest a victory for him to manifest.
	Let's say that Biden wins narrowly.
	Do you think there's any reckoning at hand for the Democratic Party?
	Do you think they rethink this thing, given the fact that Trump has pulled outside support?
	They thought that they were going to walk away with this thing with 350 electoral votes.
	When you decide to go with somebody who's 78 years old at inauguration, you probably know that you don't have a deep bench to go to.
	And I would say that what you're looking at is the last gasp of the gerontocracy It's very hard to find somebody who's willing to step into these shoes who's younger.
	Now, at the tail end of regimes that end badly, like the Ceausescu's, you usually have some guy who you make president for two days.
	Here, you're the prime minister.
	Good luck to you, sir.
	What I believe is, is that it's been very hard to attract young people to sign on to a failing ideology.
	Now, I'm very disturbed about Donald Trump, but I will say that the right has been getting more reasonable as the left continues to portray it as getting more insane.
	What does intellectual leftism look like at this point?
	Well, I mean, to be honest with you, I'm worried that you guys aren't getting it.
	I'm worried that you're going to lose capitalism because you're not realizing that you better deal in Gen Z and the millennials at a minimum if you want people to continue to care about the American experiment that I think that I'm interested in fighting with you guys about over decades.
	In other words, We have a situation in which if you look at the way in which the millennials are experiencing their lives in terms of home ownership, family formation, they're not part of the American experience at an appropriate rate.
	And if you guys don't wake up to the wonders of a little bit of socialism in order to make sure that everybody's still trying to make capitalism work, Good luck keeping... You mean in the sense that some people put off buying a home, they put off having kids, they put off getting married because they don't have enough money or they don't have a stable job or something like that?
	Yeah.
	I mean that if you are 35 years old and you don't have a home and you're, let's say you're female, so your biological clock is of concern to you, You're in a situation where you're about to, your life plan that you might have been planning on, if it was generic enough, is about to be frustrated.
	And what's worse is, like, let's say you have parents who have a second home, or a third home, and you can't even get your first home, and then there's some story about how they had a paper route, and that paper route made everything work, and they put themselves through college, because, you know, Lord knows they didn't have any debt when they graduated, blah, blah, blah.
	These young people have no concept of what this capitalist American experience is left or right.
	Yeah.
	No, I think you make a great point here.
	I would probably dispute that the issue is primarily economic, though I think there is a major economic element.
	And I think you're totally right that this issue of how we live our lives, how we form families, how we settle down, how we integrate into a community, if you lose that, you're going to lose the whole system.
	And the question is, how do you get the Gini coefficients that measure the amount of inequality in a society to go down without the barrel Of a gun pointed at anyone.
	When you talk about a little bit of socialism, the word has come to mean almost nothing.
	Originally it meant the state taking over the means of production.
	That's not what people mean anymore.
	No, I think what they're doing is they're abstracting to a layer of indirection where socialism, in its meta kind of guise, is that you're going to have to recognize that the market's distributional mechanism under the political economy that we currently experience and under some of the intensifying effects where a small number of people can capture almost all of the value in a space from a small difference in quality, there's an implicit morality to the market.
	And when you can't say that that person is wealthy because they contributed $4 worth of value on average to every American, when you have to say, well, that person is wealthy because of something involving reverse loans and trusts and the Cayman Islands, that person is wealthy because of something involving reverse loans and trusts and the Cayman Islands, then Which is, what does success mean?
	And then you get the word success replaced by the word privilege, and I can tell how much you're all enjoying that word.
	What happens though, are we talking about Are we talking about a failure of capitalism, or are we talking about a corruption of capitalism?
	Are we dealing with what they call crony capitalism, which is really just cronyism, so that the free market is now so slanted?
	It is worth pointing out here, Drew.
	The term capitalism was popularized by Marxists, so it's already kind of a loaded term.
	But just to play with my conservative friends here, if I were to say, you know, the problem with communism is it's never really been tried, you guys would all laugh.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	That's a great.
	So my point to you would be right back at you.
	The same thing with capital.
	Yeah.
	You want to promise with real capital?
	Well, it depends on what the solution that's being proposed is.
	Because if the solution is government subsidization of particular groups at the expense of other groups, which is, you know, well, you guys were at a certain level of redistributionism.
	That's one thing.
	If what we're talking about is relieving Uh, the government from providing subsidies, then that's precisely the opposite.
	Well, let me, let me get to an earlier point.
	I don't know why I desire to help the, uh, the loyal opposition, but in some sort of, um, Stockholm syndrome or bridge over the river Kwai moment, you guys were talking about the difficulties of attracting professors.
	You guys have a very easy road if you want to, which is stop treating professors as people looking for government handouts because due to your precious tax dollars, Get smarter.
	Realize that you've effectively made it impossible to claim intellectual property rights from basic discoveries.
	And say, you know what?
	We're going to poke a hole because we recognize that market failure is a real thing.
	Markets are fantastic, but they don't do everything for you.
	And what we're going to do is we are going to commit to people in STEM subjects to make sure that they get their academic freedom back, that they're not worried about grants, they're not worried about being humiliated.
	And then you can have professors again.
	But the place that you guys went wrong is that you started treating professors as, and the famous quote is, welfare queens in lab coats.
	That wasn't a winner.
	I'm all for that, Eric.
	I am totally for winning.
	But my only issue is, did we ever really have the professors?
	You know, I'm reminded of God and Man at Yale by Buckley, he says, even back in the 50s, all his professors were pinkos.
	Well, but...
	The problem is that you guys tend to see things a little bit black and white, so what I talk about is... You're talking about in STEM fields.
	That's not quite the same thing as the North Campus majors at AUCLA.
	Well, but you guys think that universities are about teaching and great universities are about research.
	And we put a fig leaf of teaching on the front of them because of Vannevar Bush.
	That's not really the issue.
	There's always been a mixed The thing between Democrats and Republicans, you don't need to worry about real Democrats and people who are really of the left.
	What I always say is that the Tom Lehrer left and the P.J.
	O'Rourke right can get along just fine.
	The problem is the batshit crazy Charlottesville right and the ridiculous Antifa left need to get a room and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
	I always say that the thing with the far right, no one in this room is for the far right.
	The far right is on the comment section of Breitbart.
	That's not the issue.
	But the far left is in Congress.
	Yes, there is an asymmetry, but to be blunt about it, there are norms that prevented the far right from finding each other in the, as they did at the beginning of the Trump administration.
	So there was a period that actually wasn't that long-lived, where the extreme right, and I don't even want to call them the extreme right, I want to talk about them as the bigoted Really ugly, right?
	Yeah, they thought they had a flush.
	Yep.
	And then they got shut down.
	And the question is, would the same thing happen in a Biden administration?
	In which the far left thinks, okay, cool.
	We've been part of the big 10.
	This to me is the big question.
	I wanted to ask you about it.
	Because this is what I've been considering is that the future of the country at this point, it seems to me
	Is really more about whether mainstream liberals decide that they are more interested in opening up the Overton window wide enough to have discussions with people who are not of their political persuasion, but they have in common a belief in individual rights and freedom of speech and freedom of conversation, or whether they're so wedded to their policy priorities that they believe they can more easily achieve those by dumping over all those things and making common cause with the woke left and sort of the Antifa crowd.
	Because it seems like That is the question.
	Like the Harper's Weekly letter that they put out where there's all these mainstream liberals, all of whom voted for Joe Biden and none of whom voted for Trump, talking about how the Overton window needed to be widened.
	On the one hand, I thought, OK, that's a good thing.
	On the other hand, I thought this would be so much more effective if you had had one person who voted for Donald Trump on this list.
	It's like you want to open the Overton window just wide enough to let you and your buddies through, but not quite wide enough to actually have a conversation with anybody who disagrees with you.
	But you guys are, the way that the modern left is formulated, you're not just people with whom I disagree, you're all evil.
	Right, yeah.
	In my particular case, that's true.
	I could tell by the lack of hair.
	Clearly Lex Luthor.
	But in fact, nothing you're saying, at least for me and Knowles, I would say, nothing you're saying is so far out there that we couldn't find some place of common ground.
	That's what Ben once said to me, Ben, I once asked Ben the question, What happens when the market can't reach the median non-remarkable individual anymore?
	And he says, then we'd have to consider other measures.
	I said, Ben, why don't you say things like that in front of the world?
	He says, because you, Eric, are highly specific in what you're complaining about.
	And the left tends to be very, like the 1%.
	So you're going to go after the sons of bitches.
	Right.
	When I ask you for a solution and you say things like, okay, we need to not put, you know, that we need to strengthen patent law for people in STEM and protect their, like that, Everybody recognizes since the founding that patent law is a place where markets actually experience failure because otherwise there'd be no actual rationale for discovering anything because if you don't protect intellectual property, intellectual property is a form of property.
	Especially during the founding, actually.
	It's literally in the Constitution that the federal government has the power of patents.
	I don't want basic research to be patentable.
	What I want is to recognize that we have the world's greatest deal By ensuring that our research scientists give us stuff for simply being immunized for the Right.
	If you're immunized from the market and you're given academic freedom, you don't have a billion dollars, but you have the security of a guy with a billion dollars.
	Right.
	It really matters that I can go into my work every day and know that no matter what I say, I have a job.
	Right.
	All that's fair enough.
	Yeah.
	But it wasn't fair because then the whole point was what the right at some point badly misgaged the situation in academics.
	And went into this kind of market purity thing.
	Remember market purity?
	Yeah, I was like the 80s, though, to me.
	I sort of feel like we were moving out of that.
	I know, but that's what my point is, is that you guys have an easy path to victory in the academy.
	You're not going to win the whole academy, but if you get 10 percent, you get a beachhead, then you get enough to allow people to have both perspectives in terms of the political parties.
	And you have a discussion, but it's like a one line A piece of spackle or retroactive continuity and you can't even manage that?
	You know, it's funny because we've been talking all night about how if President Trump makes inroads with the black vote, he's not going to win 50%.
	He's not going to win 60%.
	But he might win 15% and that would be a huge deal because that really hampers the Democrats.
	It sounds like you're saying a similar thing with professors.
	You might not get 50% of the professors, but if you made some roads into academia, you've really got a place from which you could form.
	I mean, look, the reason that I really In the modern era, can't stand the Republican Party, is that in part, on your watch, under Ronald Reagan, you came up with completely disastrous ideas for figuring out how to tamper with the wage mechanism for American scientists.
	And my feeling is, is that you guys are anti-market manipulators who completely destroyed the crown jewel of American intellectual life, which is our research complex.
	And well done, gentlemen.
	It seems to me that something else... If I knew what the hell you were talking about, I'd totally be with you.
	I'd love to do this on a big program.
	In 1986, there was a guy named Eric Bloch, who was the first non-academic head of the National Science Foundation, and he realized that we were going to have to pay more money to scientists, because the demographics of the baby bust were going to mean that the supply curve came in.
	And so what he's realized is, is that if we flooded the market with foreign students, who are not actually students, they're workers, that we can push out the supply curve and you get the wage to go down.
	And then what they did in order to disguise the fact that they were manipulating a market, is that they removed the demand curves and claimed it was only a demographic analysis.
	Right, right.
	Right?
	Now that thing is what led to the Immigration Act of 1990.
	Now you guys don't even know about that, because nobody knows about this story, because nobody in the left of center media wants to talk about this, and the right of center media hasn't caught on.
	Now, what I'm trying to tell you is, there's so much soul-searching real conservatives and real progressives can do together, because, to be blunt, you guys also want to see the progress of the human race, and I want to see the best aspects of our world conserved.
	We're just not sitting down and having those conversations.
	Instead, we're having moronic conversations about either the market solves everything, Or everyone's a white supremacist.
	I don't want to have either one.
	It frightens me that I completely agree with you about this.
	I know.
	I have to leave the set.
	Yeah, I know.
	But it also... It's the dark side.
	Well, it seems to me that there's another aspect of this, another flow of information coming in, where you start with guys on the cultural side, guys like Edward Said, proclaiming Jane Austen an imperialist.
	And those people start to infect the STEM people in your universities, where suddenly they're saying to you, well, if you make certain discoveries, you're fired.
	And that's the kind of thing that we wind up arguing with.
	We wind up arguing with the cultural left and maybe not hearing what's happening.
	Why not spend less time with grievance studies people and more time with the people who actually make sure that the bombs Don't go off prematurely and that they land in the right place.
	Because there's a barrier to entry.
	That's right.
	Because the culture wars are a barrier to entry.
	Meaning you and I can have this conversation because we have a baseline and we can all have this conversation because we already have a baseline agreement on certain fundamental values.
	And this is, I think, the entire problem.
	And I think it's also behind a lot of what is going on right now in even the discussion about the demographic shifts and the new voter coalitions.
	I think a lot of people are putting a lot of weight on Henry Olson.
	We've had this conversation a lot on this particular sort of backstage show.
	Henry Olson puts a lot of weight on the sort of Donald Trump economic program, immigration restrictionism, and trying to boost wages either with subsidies or other semi-artificial ways in sort of dying towns.
	And I really kind of believe that Donald Trump's actual appeal to most of the folks he's winning over has very little to do with that.
	I think it has very much to do with the fact that the left Is refusing a baseline level of conversation.
	And so foreclosing these conversations, I think that if we had a debate, a public debate right now between Joe Biden and Donald Trump over how to properly fund higher education in STEM, right?
	I think that the American people would go to sleep because they recognize that number one, it doesn't actually apply.
	They think it doesn't, it's a second order question.
	It doesn't apply to them in their immediate life.
	What does apply to them in their immediate life is the fact that when they go on social media, they are in fact called white supremacists.
	For saying they might vote for Trump or they are suggested to be religious bigots if they go to church.
	And so for the better conversations to happen, I think this is what we're watching right now.
	For the better conversations to happen, there has to be a baseline agreement on values that is not in evidence right now.
	And I don't think that Joe Biden is going to put that back into evidence.
	So there needs to be a better way.
	Oddly enough, the supposed threats in the institution is Donald Trump, the supposed fascist Donald Trump.
	He seems a lot more willing to have those conversations with people on the other side than the left is willing to have those conversations with Trump.
	Plus, Trump is more likely to sign a deal along the lines of what you're talking about.
	The left wants to oppress you guys, right?
	So the idea of social justice is actually about social vengeance.
	Right, exactly.
	This is the fundamental problem.
	I understand that, but I don't want to oppress you guys, and I don't want vengeance.
	What I do want to do is impress upon you that, um, kinda you started the destruction of the American science and engineering enterprise on your watch, and it would be really great To get right-of-center people to be more patriotic, to be more individualistic.
	I feel like you guys aren't sufficiently individualistic.
	I certainly am not.
	I'm on board with all of that.
	I have trouble taking blame for a thing that happened when I was two.
	Think of it differently as an opportunity.
	You have an opportunity to stand up for academic freedom.
	I think what you're describing is important.
	I think that it's narrow, but that it's important.
	You said something early in your remarks that I think goes to why that conversation is difficult.
	You rightly corrected yourself.
	You said in the beginning of the Trump ascendancy, there were the radical right, and then you corrected yourself.
	I shouldn't say the extreme was your word.
	I shouldn't say extreme right.
	I should say the bigoted right.
	I think that's fair because I would think of, for example, an extreme Christian as someone who really, really, really believes in Christian doctrine.
	The extreme right, you know, the alt-right, the America first chumps, they don't believe in like an extreme version of conservative ideology.
	They believe in this sort of... Something very different.
	Something very different, this bigotry.
	So I think that was a correct But there is another side to that, which is what I think Drew was alluding to.
	There is an extreme left, which is engaged in a sort of revolutionary movement in this country right now.
	And unfortunately, the extreme left has mainstream power within the Democrat Party.
	I actually don't think that Antifa is the extreme left.
	I would compare them more to your bigoted right.
	They're more like the strangely bigoted left.
	The extreme left They want to change the fundamental structures of our society.
	They want to reframe the country.
	They're the new framers.
	And because of that, it's very difficult for us to even engage on these sorts of issues.
	I mean, it's difficult for me to engage in these issues, because I don't know what the hell any of you are talking about.
	We've all got about 20 IQ points on me.
	But it's difficult to have these conversations with anyone, because On the left, the extreme movement has actually all the power right now.
	Quick update, since we are doing election night.
	Quick update, Joni Ernst is projected to win in Iowa.
	This means Republicans hold the Senate.
	Republicans are going to hold the Senate.
	Tom Tellis wins in North Carolina.
	That's being projected.
	Joni Ernst wins in Iowa.
	That's being projected.
	Cory Gardner loses in Colorado.
	Martha McSally loses in Arizona.
	Republicans win the seat in Alabama.
	It is extremely likely at this point that Republicans Hold the Senate.
	They would have to, in order to lose the Senate, they would have to lose both the Collins seat as well as the, as well as the Dane seat in Montana.
	Divided government is the best government unless we control everything.
	I want to get to that.
	Also, by the way, Chip Roy did win his race in Texas.
	Oh, good.
	Fantastic.
	Good news.
	Nobody deserves to be in Congress less than Wendy Davis.
	Chip Roy, I mean, take him, really.
	I want to give you a chance to respond to that.
	And then I actually have my own big news.
	Which we're going to have to go to Cassie Dillon for, but it's going to be the most cathartic, enjoyable moment, I think, of the night.
	Oh, wow.
	I don't think there's any chance they call the election tonight.
	For the five of us or the four of us?
	It's going to be enjoyable.
	I think you'll like it.
	All right.
	By the way, I am excited about divided government because I don't want either of these two potential presidents ramming through too much, but I don't even see anybody to take over from.
	With respect to the earlier issue, so you were saying that the weird Move to the left.
	The left that doesn't... See, I don't even want to call it the left.
	The illiberal left.
	I want to call it the group of people that don't believe in the law of the excluded middle and modus ponens.
	Well, that's catchy, yeah.
	People who are somehow experimenting with the idea that consistency is a white supremacist experience.
	That family is a what?
	Well, all of these.
	Showing up on time and practicing the piano is a white... I don't know.
	It's beyond stupid, so there's no way of responding to it because you can't even process what the argument is.
	Yeah, those people are in part... Somebody once said to me, You're not understanding, Eric.
	These people aren't making an error.
	It's asymmetric warfare, and this is what the powerless do, and they're confusing you with the powerful.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	That's why A implies B, and B implies C means that A implies the chicken.
	Yeah.
	Out of the chicken.
	That thing is really weird because, you see, most of the people that I know don't use that kind of thinking in their business.
	If you use that kind of thinking in your business, your business would usually evaporate.
	Correct.
	If you use that on your tax returns, you know, and you just turn in something in red crayon with lots of pictures of hearts and rainbows, no one would know at the IRS what you were doing.
	You can talk in these crazy terms in political circumstances.
	What no one knows is what this stuff means.
	Right.
	This is because I think of the divide between the practical and the ethereal on the left.
	That almost everyone, I say almost because I think probably some of the radicals, the true radicals don't, but most people who are going to vote for Joe Biden tonight, most people even who think that he should pack the court, most people even who think maybe Puerto Rico should be a state without a filibuster and a simple majority vote, They actually live their day-to-day lives in much more conservative ways.
	They run their business like conservatives.
	They raise their children like conservatives.
	It's when they're asserting their values in the social world in which we live.
	Something has happened in our culture where you are a bad person if you don't... If you preach what you practice.
	Well, but this is where Harper's letter comes into play.
	Harper's letter is really this very weird story where you had a group of people doing the hiring in newsrooms, let's say, or publications, various left, sort of center-left publications, and they said, hey, you know what?
	To appeal to the kids, let's get some of this woke stuff and The woke reporters will go after other people and they won't turn on their masters because we hired them.
	For a period of time, this idea of playing Tiger King worked.
	And then you keep feeding these tigers and suddenly they view their trainers as a source of protein.
	And these people are saying, wait a minute, you can't come after us.
	You're supposed to go out and get them.
	And that's what the Harper's letter was all about.
	It's basically saying, hey, We may have goofed by playing with this in order to get some buzz and some energy and suddenly this isn't feeling that much fun.
	But in the analogy, who's that bitch Carole Baskin?
	So I do want to share my extraordinary news.
	It's not my extraordinary news.
	It's actually the find of our very own Cassie Dillon who is in our war room with something.
	It's just so, I mean, prepare yourself with a nice leftist-tears hot or cold tumbler for what you are about to behold.
	Well, I have an update for you.
	It seems that the left is starting to get a little bit anxious, especially over at the Young Turks.
	So I have a video for you that I think you will all enjoy.
	So let's watch it.
	Get out of the way!
	Both Jake Tapper and Nancy Pelosi and all those and every editor at the New York Times has to get out of our way!
	Let us hit the Republicans in the face!
	Instead of playing patty cakes with them, how many elections are we gonna get to a razor's edge with a monster idiot fascist like Donald Trump?
	One last thing, I swear to God I'm gonna go to Ida, but one last thing on this, guys.
	Forget him being a racist, forget him being a fascist.
	The guy's IQ is lower than 70.
	He's an idiot.
	He's a total moron, and you couldn't figure out how to crush him in an election?
	Man, the corporate Democrats and the mainstream media suck at this.
	They absolutely positively suck, and they brainwash smart people into compliance.
	But that's not what we do.
	Get out of the way.
	Both Jake Tapper and He's like 80% right.
	You know, he looks like he's having a good time over there.
	Like I said, we are not in full meltdown mode right now.
	We are in lukewarm meltdown mode.
	So there's a few other things going on on Twitter as well.
	A bunch of blue check marks are really getting nervous.
	One of them's talking about our entire Earth is on the line.
	You know this.
	We don't have four more years to gamble with.
	Another one is saying that you shouldn't be shocked.
	Half of America is racist.
	And then we have AOC, who said she's not going to comment on today's election results, but that she's seen this coming for a long time in the Latino community with going red, so she's also mad about Florida.
	And Jimmy Kimmel said, this is like being awake during your own surgery.
	So it seems they're having some lukewarm meltdowns.
	But I'll be here giving you guys updates if we have anything else interesting.
	So thank you.
	Hang on.
	Just one second.
	By the way, I do enjoy the, I do enjoy Chank.
	Doing a takeoff on the electoral stupidity of losing an election to Donald Trump.
	I will just remind you that in 2020, he did run for Congress, right, in a special election.
	In 2018.
	In 2018.
	No, it was 2020.
	Was it?
	Because it was to replace Katie Hill after Katie Hill resigned.
	He had to drop out.
	And he came in fourth in the primaries.
	Fourth in the primaries.
	He won a grand total of 6.6% of the vote.
	After, you'll recall, Bernie Sanders endorsed him and then un-endorsed him.
	So, yeah, there is electoral genius, Cenk Iger, really doing yeoman's work.
	I said that I thought you would enjoy it because how could you not enjoy it?
	I mean, this isn't a... Cenk is not a guy with whom you're going to have conversations about how to remake the country into some sort of better left and better right.
	It's a guy who Well, here's some good news.
	Oregon, where Portland is happening, Oregon has now decriminalized possession of all drugs, including coke, heroin, and meth.
	About time.
	Good times in Oregon.
	These DMT Reese's Pieces are... And also breaking, Joe Rogan has moved to Oregon.
	He just turned his car around, actually, on the way to Texas.
	And Ruben just said he was staying in California.
	How does decriminalization work, by the way?
	Did they just make it legal?
	Or did they just remove all the penalties?
	They made it legal.
	Well, decriminalization means that you can get fined, I think.
	Yeah.
	See, this is what I... Decriminalization is the worst kind of soft tyranny.
	Because it leads to capriciousness in the government.
	If you're going to have a law, enforce the law.
	If we agree that the law is wrong, then change the law.
	The worst thing is to say, we're going to have a law, but it doesn't matter very much.
	Because it erodes the entire idea of equal justice, right?
	It erodes the entire idea of law.
	Well, let's also agree that just the federal Schedule 1 designation of controlled substances as being wildly misapplied.
	There's two criteria that matter, one of which is that there's no medical value whatsoever, and then there has to be a high capacity for harm.
	And we have things on that list where neither of these things is true.
	And so there's also the question that you have to figure out how the law should be implemented once you've come up with a schema for it that's not even being implemented consistently.
	But I do want to get back to this issue about the idea of what do we make of, let's say, Kamala Harris tweeting out this cartoon about equity versus equality, where she manages to drop the G on the end of gerunds and things in order to get a black vernacular feel to what she's doing.
	You mean our African-American, Indian, Jamaican candidate for vice president?
	Yeah.
	Well, it is interesting.
	We used to say things like, you know, I am a licensed physician, or I am a physicist.
	And now you say, as a Peruvian of color.
	Please enlighten me.
	That is the new designation of whether you have something to say.
	Nobody quite knows.
	What to make of this mainstreaming of incoherent, beyond-communism belief structures.
	So, you know, coming from a background which had plenty of communists in it, the aphorism I always thought was, from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
	And despite the fact that that uses a third-person gendered pronoun, the other problem with it is I can't believe you guys are laughing.
	We're insensitive.
	That's the way it works.
	The problem with that is that it acknowledges that people have different abilities.
	Right.
	So the idea is we are so far beyond communism we don't even have language.
	And you know my feeling about this is I do think we're gonna have to take care of people.
	The market is not doing a good job with distribution issues and part of the problem is political economy gets plowed back into the situation causing a positive feedback nightmare.
	However, I think that what we have to do is we have to repudiate ideologies that do not compile.
	And the great benefit of far-left ideology is that because it doesn't make sense, it's very hard to argue with something that gives up on consistency at the outset.
	Remember, the principle of explosion says that in any intellectual system, if you allow a single contradiction, anything can be deduced.
	So largely, the left, who is beyond any place I've ever been, is trying to smuggle one contradiction through airport security so that they can have everything on the other side.
	Didn't they actually do that though with LGBTQ, right?
	Once you lump transsexuals in with homosexuals, you've created your contradiction.
	If the entire argument for the last 40 years is that Biological sex is immutable, right?
	Yes.
	I'm born this way.
	Biological sex is immutable.
	And then you also say that within that same framework, gender is a social construct.
	Haven't you baked that fundamental contradiction?
	Well, there was a big headline that came out.
	This is a real headline that came out last week.
	That a woman realized she was a lesbian after her husband realized he was really a woman.
	So nothing has changed in their marriage at all.
	But they've both fundamentally changed their sexual preferences.
	And identity.
	Hot, man.
	It was hot.
	I saw the picture.
	That's what you guys get off on.
	You know, look, there's a bigger and better issue.
	The fact that the far left can't play its cards properly doesn't mean that they don't have a point.
	And part of the problem is that you guys have to steal men if you want to understand what's going on.
	Is there a difference?
	You know, if I were a lungi or a kilt, are you telling me that that is feminine?
	Not in South Asia or Scotland, respectively.
	On the other hand, a skirt is gendered inside of the constructs of the United States.
	So you guys even will admit to the idea that there is some variability, that these things aren't set at the factories.
	There's nothing intrinsically masculine or feminine about the concept of a skirt.
	Right, but all of those cultures also recognize the difference between male and female garb.
	That's true, but on the other hand, you have lots of situations.
	For example, the Ayatollah Khomeini allowed for sex transitions in a fatwa.
	Right, right.
	You, I think, have five identified genders Intersex is the one thing which I always reach out to my conservative friends, which is, you guys should start steering on the basis of intersex.
	We have people, we have dudes who have uteruses Uh, I always bring up persistent Mullerian duct syndrome, and you can... But that's an actual biological syndrome.
	That's exactly right.
	That's not the... There's still biological reality.
	Like, an objective outside viewer of the situation could tell that there was an objective thing happening.
	But this is my point.
	This is our opportunity to come together, which is, you have to recognize, for example, that the third person singular pronouns in English are inflected for gender, unlike in something like Turkish, where they are not.
	So, what you don't do is you never have the third person singular and plural pronoun be the same.
	So using they is ridiculous.
	Right.
	On the other hand, you can imagine a one-time backwards incompatible change in the language as we did when we stopped inflecting the honorific for females with marital status.
	It is worth pointing out the OED does define he as gender neutral as well as gendered and man the same way.
	In the beginning God created man, both male and female.
	He created them.
	And then the women, W-I-M-M-I-N, or however they spelled it in the 70s, took umbrage at this fact.
	But it did have, it was understood in the English language.
	It was understood, but it had a particular bias.
	If you want to make fun of these people for not making sense...
	That's not the place to do it.
	You can say, look, there is a version of this story in which we have neglected people who don't fall neatly into a sexual identification category, either in terms of who they're attracted to or what they are.
	The thing that's mockable is the statement that there is no such thing as a biological dichotomy between male and female.
	That is mockable.
	That is mockable on its face.
	The idea that sex is so malleable and gender is so malleable that a man being fully biological male can call himself a female and we are all supposed to pretend that that person is now a biological female that's absurd on his face yeah but you know ben even there and i again i don't want to reveal too much about our conversations but you and i have talked about the fact that when you've been faced with somebody who's in a great deal of distress over your particular comments on pronouns that you take a compassionate humanist view and you don't want to irritate that person you're
	Your point has been that I don't want to give up this argument if that's what we're discussing.
	If what we're discussing is pronouns.
	Public treatment of issues.
	Mercy is a part of human life.
	But that does not mean that the broad standards shouldn't be justice.
	That's right.
	You slipped from one point to another.
	Please.
	I've made the speech that you're making right now in college.
	Did you do it better?
	So much better.
	I was brilliant.
	It was amazing.
	No, I mean, look, nature is messy, and the dots that go with masculinity, they generally collect with men.
	They are spread out in this weird way.
	But everything you're saying, everything you're saying is taking place within a context of male and female.
	It's taking place within a context, a basic context, a norm.
	Let's call it what it is.
	It's a norm of male and female.
	It comes out of nature.
	And I want to be able to, you know, science is sort of an absolute defense.
	You can't ask me to negate the science as a scientist when it contradicts political ideology.
	All I'm trying to suggest is that we had a lot to do that we could have done on intersex and on separating gender from sexuality.
	Just doing it.
	In an intellectually rigorous and respectful fashion.
	And then we could get to this issue, for example, of the umbrella category.
	The reason that trans is so controversial is like stroke.
	You can get strokes from clotting, and you can get strokes from having blood that's too thin.
	So the fact that you're talking about a stroke doesn't give you enough information.
	You need extra information because the term is overloaded.
	Well, the trans category is overloaded.
	Yeah, I mean, all of this is, I think, Interesting and worthy of conversation.
	The biggest problem is we keep coming back to is that literally these conversations are not possible.
	They're not possible.
	I've literally had these exact conversations with people on the most popular left-wing podcast in America outside of the podcast and said we should do a crossover because it'll be huge numbers.
	Yeah.
	And the person I was speaking to, I won't mention any names, specifically said, Your people would be fine with having that conversation publicly.
	My people would literally kill me.
	And that's where it lies.
	I know that we have to do more election updates because I know this- There is a presidential election.
	And people are in our chat room right now saying, stop talking about things that matter!
	All we want to know is what Cabot says is happening in the Rust Belt.
	Eric, thank you so much for being with us tonight.
	We're going to see what Cabot has to say.
	Okay, well good luck to you all.
	What does Cabot think about intersexuality?
	What do they think in the Rust Belt about intersex?
	Cabot?
	What do they think in the Rust Belt about intersectionality?
	I don't know about that, but we do have some updates and kind of piggybacking on that AOC tweet.
	Unfortunately, she's not the only Democrat now that's using this talking point that we're not going to know who the winner is tonight, guys.
	I'm sorry.
	Really sorry.
	Yep, and I will say that my bingo card, the last word I needed was the guys downstairs saying intersexuality, so I just got five in a row on bingo, so I'm set.
	Good for you.
	I'm sure some other viewers are as well.
	There's a tweet coming out, to your point, from Bloomberg, or the Bloomberg reporter.
	She says, according to sources in states, this is state officials she's referring to, Wisconsin says there's no way they are announcing a winner tonight.
	Michigan officials say they need until Friday.
	Pennsylvania said they aren't coming out anytime soon either.
	So if you had champagne ready on either side to expect to be able to celebrate tonight, you may want to hold your horses there.
	So to give a breakdown of what the numbers are in those states right now.
	Wisconsin, 72% reporting, President Trump holding strong, 52% to Biden's 46.6%.
	In Michigan, where there's 52% in, President Trump up 54.5% to Biden's 43.3%.
	We're still waiting on a lot of results from Wayne County, so we're going to certainly expect that gap to be narrowed.
	Quite quickly.
	Pennsylvania, 55% in.
	President Trump up 56 to 41 in Pennsylvania with 55% in.
	Again, still waiting for a lot of results, so that gap will likely be narrowing.
	We've also had a lot of viewers commenting, asking about Virginia.
	They're saying why, you know, Virginia was called so soon by Fox.
	No one else has called it since.
	President Trump has been leading throughout the night.
	What's going on?
	To answer those questions, we've talked to some people in Virginia.
	And from what we've been able to gather, the main holdup is Fairfax County.
	So this is a northern Virginia county that is going about 3 to 1 Or about 75% of the county is going to Biden.
	Okay.
	And there are 400,000 uncounted votes in Fairfax County that came in early.
	So if that same ratio holds up, if it's about 75 to 25 for Biden, that's where he's going to make up the gap that there is right now, because there is a gap.
	And President Trump's still holding strong in the betting market, something we've been touching on there.
	Where's the money going?
	Still going towards President Trump.
	And one more thing to add, New York Times prediction in Georgia had climbed all the way up into the 80% for Trump.
	Yep.
	It seems like he's losing a little momentum in Georgia.
	He's down to 62% of the New York Times prediction there.
	So still favored to win by the New York Times models, but it is starting to drop a little bit in Georgia.
	And we earlier talked about the correlation between the Senate races and the presidential race.
	What's happening in Iowa?
	Because that's a race where a lot of people are paying attention to.
	Is Joni Ernst going to be able to keep her seat?
	It appears that she will.
	Last we checked, Joni Ernst was up about four points with 82% reporting.
	So it looks like Joni Ernst is going to retain her position in the Senate, which is huge for Republicans.
	Suzanne Collins also looking like she will be retaining her position based on the way that the election results are looking right now.
	So where we stand now, guys, is it's looking like White House toss up at this point might not, unfortunately, get an answer tonight.
	And I must have to throw this in there.
	There are plausible scenarios where there is a 269 to 269 tie.
	Don't say it.
	It's 2020.
	It could happen, Cabin.
	It's not going to take that much for it to happen either.
	It now could happen.
	If the president wins Pennsylvania and a few other states and Biden holds where he is right now and then wins Minnesota and Michigan, we're at 269 to 269.
	OK.
	And so White House undecided at this point could be a toss up.
	It looks like Senate Republicans are going to hold.
	It does.
	Look, based on the projections right now, if things go in the right direction, it's going to be likely around 51 to 52 for Republicans.
	But it's looking like worst case scenario right now is a 50-50 tie in the Senate.
	So then the vice president would be... Then the vice president would be presiding over any tied votes, which Vice President Pence, you can imagine him doing that.
	I'm already having terrifying images of Kamala Harris coming in.
	Walking down the aisle straight up and letting everyone know that she's there to preside.
	Yeah, I'm sure she'd love that.
	Over her former colleagues, I could just see her like that really happy grin on her face.
	I'm having trouble thinking about anything else besides you scaring me.
	We're going to stay on top of all the data though, keep you up to date, but the big summary here right now is that according to Bloomberg reports, state officials are saying, hold your horses, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, could be until Friday before we have all the results.
	Okay guys, we're going to keep seeing what members want to talk about.
	Thank you for that very detailed update.
	Once again, things that we have the contacts on the ground and thank you guys for working so hard.
	We're going to get back to the war room and then we will get you guys some more information as soon as possible.
	So Georgia is a mess.
	They're now saying that it could be tilting toward Biden again.
	So late votes coming in there.
	There's a lot of controversy over at Fox.
	Some of the commentators, they're like Katie Pavlich, very angry at Fox for having called Arizona early, although the vote would have to come in very late and very heavy for Trump to still win.
	Arizona, Minnesota has been called for Biden, which was kind of Trump's, that was his wish state.
	That was going to be the one where if he won Minnesota in replacement for Arizona, for example, that would help him.
	That leaves Nevada as the only flippable state for Trump at this point.
	Iowa, the polls were dead, right?
	So it looks, the one thing that I think we can bank on is that it looks very much like the Republicans hold the Senate.
	They actually pick up some seats in the House and we will see where Trump is.
	Tomorrow or the day after is what is what that looks like.
	So the good news is that the downside risk for Republicans just went down pretty significantly because President Biden with the Republican Senate and a less actually a less heavy House majority.
	It's a very different Joe Biden administration than Joe Biden with a Democratic Senate and a Democratic House and no checks.
	And now like, well, it just means, for example, the filibuster ain't gone.
	Yeah, right.
	The filibuster sticks around.
	Filibuster ain't gone.
	No court packing, no new states.
	I mean, that is a massive, massive thing.
	And also the next election cycle, 2022, very much favors Republicans.
	There are a lot of vulnerable Democrats in purple states in those elections.
	So that would, you know.
	Also incredibly rare, you know, in a president's first midterm that he picks up seats.
	Right, exactly.
	So, you know, that's the good news.
	That is the good news from tonight.
	The good news from tonight is that Republicans look like they're going to walk away with the Senate.
	By the way, I didn't make any predictions on the air.
	Drew, I told you this was going to happen earlier today.
	Yeah, you did.
	You did.
	I said that was going to happen.
	People ask for predictions.
	You know, again, I have hesitated to make public predictions about the presidential race.
	I told you I did say that.
	I did say that my gut was.
	I will say it's hard to say this guy didn't say publicly, but I did say that my gut was that Trump was that Biden was ahead narrowly on points and that the Republicans would retain the Senate.
	Yeah, I mean, I did that.
	That was sort of my off the air prediction.
	So we'll see if that holds up.
	Obviously, I hope that I'm wrong about Trump.
	Losing Arizona is a major blow to his hopes because it means that he now has to win.
	He has to sweep Nebraska.
	That means Omaha, right?
	Well, Omaha is pretty, pretty blue.
	Or it means that he has to pick up Wisconsin and or Michigan plus Pennsylvania.
	So he has to do really well there.
	So that's sort of where things stand.
	We're not going to know anything the rest of the night.
	I mean, basically, we could call this thing if we wanted to.
	But we're not going to.
	We're going to keep going.
	We're going to keep going for the next four days.
	I am just joking.
	We're not going anywhere, guys.
	Ever.
	For the rest of time.
	May I make a cultural comment here for a moment?
	Absolutely not!
	We gotta talk about Nebraska!
	No, I have to say, the thing that's been, like, just sticking in my head all night long is the level, obviously not among us because we're idiots, but the level of conversation of the people that we've had on.
	Ron DeSantis, Megyn Kelly.
	Megyn Kelly off cable news.
	Sitting here talking to us just like as a person.
	Yeah, what an intelligent.
	She's so smart graceful woman.
	Yeah, you know nuanced her comments were intelligent insightful You know but just like the kind of person where you sit there and go like I met this really Bright woman who really understands and has a lot of experience and understanding things Then you have chink I mean, but I think it's a fair comparison, because Cenk is not that much different than CNN.
	He's not that much different than ABC.
	You know, I mean, this is a different level.
	Obviously, the conversation we were just having is on a different level, but just the fact that we're willing to have these conversations makes us the go-to place, not just The Daily Wire, but The Daily Wire, but also any place that's willing to have these conversations.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, yeah, I mean, again, this is a much better, let's put it this way, it's much better tonight in terms of the actual polling numbers, it's much better than anybody thought that it was going to be just a few hours ago, right?
	I mean, like, if you'd said at the beginning of the night that Trump was going to pick up North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, and that Republicans were going to retain the Senate, then That would have been considered a pretty good night going in, considering the broad... By the way, Fox News just retracted their call for Biden in Arizona.
	Yeah, what a mess.
	I knew it when they called it.
	I knew that was true.
	Honestly, these outlets have to stop.
	They have to stop calling these things so damned early.
	They call them while the votes are still... And they were doing it, by the way.
	Fox announced they were doing this.
	Based on exit polling plus early data.
	You can't do it based on the exit polling.
	We've done this a thousand times.
	You just cannot do this.
	Fox has really lost its way.
	I mean, there's no question about this.
	When John Nolte is going after Fox, you know that they've lost their way.
	Yeah, I'm not entirely sure that Fox has lost its way.
	Really?
	I think that our perspective on Fox is, uh, has always been flawed.
	I think that we've always loved Fox because they are unique among cable news, right?
	In other words, the very fact that we have anything makes us happy, right?
	No question about it.
	But to say that Fox is conservative is only true because of how far left the entire establishment media has gone.
	I mean, if you think about the golden era of Fox, the primetime lineup was And Glenn Beck actually wasn't in primetime, but I think you fairly would say that he was the beginning of their primetime coverage at five.
	You had Glenn Beck.
	You had, uh, uh, not Brett Baer, who, who, oh, uh, Brigham.
	Thank you.
	Brigham.
	You had, uh, Brigham.
	You had Sean Hannity.
	You had Bill O'Reilly.
	You had Greta Von Susteren.
	And all day you had Shep Smith.
	Shep Smith.
	As left as left can be, right?
	Greta Vancestran, of the left.
	Bill O'Reilly, not a conservative, not of the left, but more of a Trump type.
	A center populist, yeah.
	Hannity, certainly of the right, a Republican Party guy, Hannity.
	Britt Hume and his predecessor, Bret Baier and Britt Hume, both, I think that's the best actual news show on cable news.
	It's the best commentary on cable news.
	It's the best show on TV.
	For sure.
	And Glenn Beck, who was a true ideological conservative at that time.
	So if you really think about that lineup, that is a far more diverse lineup Than CNN has, than MSNBC has, and their most important show on Sunday.
	This is not my complaint.
	This is not my complaint.
	For me, the core of Fox News has always been Bret Baier or Brit Yume.
	That new show, which has just delivered a fair new show, with a conversation at the end that slanted right, kind of like the Wall Street Journal, but included left-wing views.
	That's right.
	More left-wing views than you'd find right-wing views anywhere else.
	My problem is, is that they seem to have lost the capacity to gather information Objectively.
	And the core of that loss is in exactly here, that they are no longer gathering polling information with restraint.
	And what you're saying, they're calling things too early, they're obviously getting bad information, they're trying to compete with the machinery of the networks without the machinery There's a lot of suspicion, by the way, in terms of who was actually making the calls at the Fox News desk, because the person is a registered Democrat, and so there's a lot of talk about how that person might allow their biases to...
	To creep in.
	My favorite image of the night is ABC News talking about Wisconsin and said, well, you know, we have to talk about Kenosha.
	We have to talk about Kenosha.
	They didn't mention anything happening in Kenosha.
	Somehow Donald Trump is absolutely wiping the floor with Joe Biden in Kenosha, like just killing him in Kenosha, which, of course, makes perfect sense.
	Of course.
	That's where those riots were.
	Also, this is a big night for House Republicans.
	Republicans are actually going to pick up seats in the House.
	Based on the latest stats.
	The AP has called.
	Republicans winning Texas 22nd.
	Democrats thought they were going to flip.
	And Ashley Hinson is going to defeat a sitting Democratic Congresswoman named Abby Finkenauer in Iowa 1.
	She's up nearly 4 points.
	So Republicans are poised to pick up somewhere between 5 and 10 seats in this election in the House.
	So they're overperforming in the Senate.
	They're overperforming in the House.
	And Trump is overperforming in the polls.
	It's hard to see where exactly this is picking up, where this ends up, but it's going to go for the next couple of days.
	Yeah.
	This ain't going to end tonight.
	This is going to go another couple of days.
	No question.
	So we're joined now by Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley, who's been down in the Daily Wire War Room.
	Wait, he took my job!
	We pay him a lot less.
	Okay, that's okay, fine.
	Enjoy your work.
	Go with God.
	So, how are things going, John Bickley?
	They're going less well than an hour ago.
	I mean, there's big developments.
	There's a weird thing going on with the New York Times, this sudden shift, a dramatic shift in the chances for Trump with no, I think there was like 1% more reporting or something like that.
	And it's shifted from 78% Trump to 65% Biden.
	Where?
	Georgia.
	New York Times projection in Georgia.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay.
	Georgia's not looking great.
	Arizona's been called by most folks at this point.
	That's a blow.
	Pennsylvania, when are we going to learn?
	How many days from now are we going to learn what happens with Pennsylvania?
	Trump's doing really well so far.
	It feels like a setup.
	Here he goes.
	No matter what, he's probably going to go.
	Well, I mean, their attorney general actually said, no matter what, he can't win Pennsylvania.
	He also gave out the Democratic phone number to people who were confused about how to vote.
	So that's not great.
	It was an honest mistake.
	Yeah, so that's looking tough, you know.
	He still has a path.
	I think Wisconsin's kind of stunning.
	The developments in the House are stunning.
	The Senate looks a little bit better than we thought, so that's good.
	Yeah.
	I've been predicting it's going to be 50-50, you know.
	Who's predicting it?
	Me.
	Oh, okay.
	That's Prickly's own prediction.
	Really?
	I just thought, yeah, Darport.
	So there's some things that are positive developments.
	I think this idea of another major blow to the pollsters is big.
	And this is devastating.
	They put so much money into Florida.
	They put so much money.
	My home state.
	Love Florida.
	Thank you, Florida.
	They couldn't get that wrong.
	Best state in America.
	If you look at some of those polls, you look at the average, the average is like a 3%.
	They have a 3.5% maybe loss.
	Like they got it wrong to that degree.
	But then you look at specific polls and it's off by 8.
	10 points.
	10 points.
	Some of the polls.
	How does that happen?
	How do you stay a credible pollster after this?
	Right.
	And I don't care who you are, everyone associates them with the mainstream media.
	It's very clear when you have this very homogenous narrative that forms with the polling that works perfectly in favor of the media's narrative.
	It blows any attempt to sort of have a sense of confidence.
	Well, this was actually the argument that we had going in, Ben and Drew and I in particular earlier today, in which I'm going to claim a little credit here.
	My argument has been that the polling organizations actually favor their client, which is establishment media, more than they favor accuracy.
	In other words, you might say, well, they need to get it right or no one will use them.
	But I liken it to Hollywood producers making anti-Iraq war movies in the early 2000s.
	That no, by signaling your virtue and reinforcing the narrative that we want reinforced, we will continue hiring you because you're saying what we want to hear.
	The fact that it is the mainstream, I keep using mainstream, they're not mainstream, the establishment, the legacy media that actually writes the checks for these polls must have some effect.
	Especially when you see them as wrong as they are tonight.
	But the problem with that theory is that places like the Wall Street Journal, which skews left in their news coverage, but just a little left, does have a big investment in being reliable.
	They have a big investment in coming across as... I used to think that was true.
	I actually don't believe that that's true.
	I think that what's going on right now is that polling In the age of Trump, particularly as we see realignment is an incredibly difficult business and basically is reading chicken on trails that the coalitions were very steady in 2000, 2004, 2008.
	They were pretty steady.
	The polls weren't particularly wrong there.
	2012, even they were pretty steady.
	But Trump really shook up the map in a major way.
	And they've never been able to grasp exactly how the map was shaken up.
	Plus, technologically, it's tough.
	Oh, right.
	I mean, also, the technological shift is being wildly underrated here, which is that they are not allowed.
	You're not allowed by federal law to cold call people on their cell phone, right?
	I mean, you're not really supposed to cold call people on their cell phone, I believe.
	And you can be fined.
	I've been on campaigns that have been fined a lot of money for calling people on their cell phone.
	So they do shy away from it.
	Right.
	So what that means is that you are going to tend to oversample elderly people who have, I mean, I don't even have a landline, right?
	And a lot of people don't have a landline anymore, so it makes it very, very difficult to poll.
	Who answers those?
	Right.
	Polling is a difficult business.
	That's why people have been looking at sort of the average of the polls.
	But what was Trump's final margin of victory in Florida?
	3?
	Is that what they're saying?
	3 or 4?
	2.5.
	2.5.
	So the RCP average had Biden up 0.9.
	So they were off by about 3.4 points in the final average, which is a lot in an average of averages.
	Trafalgar got it right.
	Right, Trafalgar got it right.
	They said Trump plus two.
	They were the only group to have it right, basically.
	And this is the problem with, you know, I love the RCP site because of their great editorial collections and their videos and all this, but the fact, the idea of an average of polls It's kind of ridiculous, because some of these polls are way wrong.
	Well, the RCP is better than 538.
	So 538 didn't even include Trafalgar.
	No.
	538 had... They rejected it out of hand.
	Right.
	They said that this is a partisan poll, so we're not going to include it.
	But some of these polls that are included are Quinnipiac.
	And Quinnipiac is basically wrong about everything.
	Quinnipiac... But this is my argument.
	This is my entire argument about the polling organizations and the media.
	I don't think that they any longer have to worry about their reputation for accuracy.
	I don't think the Wall Street Journal newsroom cares I don't think that they, I think they have realized since Obama, Obama broke the media.
	Since Obama, they are no longer held to any standard except the standard of speaking the narrative.
	Except the standard, I think that before Barack Obama, A reporter could be very biased.
	The media could lean 70-30 left, because of the intrinsic biases, the fact that it draws a certain group of people.
	Nevertheless, if you were an individual journalist, even a journalist of the left, you by and large believed, as foundational ethics, that you had to speak truth, and in particular, speak truth to power.
	Then Barack Obama came along, and by the unique virtue of his blackness against the backdrop of America's history of slavery, Jim Crow, and racism.
	That actually made him a figure that could not be criticized by media.
	Also, because he's more of a religious aspirational figure, they didn't want to criticize him.
	And what Barack Obama said to the media is, no longer is your foundational ethic speaking truth to power, your foundational ethic is helping to fundamentally transform the world into a better place.
	Yes, comedy, by virtue of the people it attracts and their biases, always 70-30 left.
	And yet, Jay Leno couldn't have faced himself in the 90s if he hadn't made Monica Lewinsky jokes.
	Saturday Night Live, they couldn't have called themselves comedians if they didn't make Monica Lewinsky jokes.
	Then comes along Barack Obama, by virtue of his blackness against the backdrop of American slavery.
	I know I'm right about this, because the head writer for SNL said, he's like a large wall of obsidian.
	Obsidian, yeah.
	faultless slab of the CD.
	In other words, because he's perfect and black.
	There's nothing funny about him.
	And no longer was the job of a comedian to shine light on truth through comedy.
	Now the job was to promote the narrative.
	In other words, Barack Obama uniquely, same with academia, same with many of these institutions, he changed the foundational ethic of them.
	And the foundational ethic of a journalist in America today, the foundational ethic of a pollster in America today, is not to speak truth.
	It is to speak the narrative.
	And as long as they speak the narrative, They don't have to worry about people thinking that they don't have credibility.
	You know, I agree with like 95% of what you just said.
	What I don't agree with is, first of all, the sweep of it.
	I don't think that, for instance, at the Wall Street Journal, I do think there are still people who are interested in telling some version of the truth, even though they... Well, sure, there are some people.
	But no, no, but I mean people in authority, which is... I don't know.
	To decide with Eric, now read the Harper's letter.
	Now read Barry Weiss's statement about Lee.
	The New York Times has absolutely no interest in telling the truth.
	They will chase you out for telling the truth.
	They chase Barry White out for speaking different opinions.
	That doesn't really happen at the Wall Street Journal.
	The last time it happened was Bret Stephens who left because he was too far against Trump.
	And that was on the editorial side.
	Exactly.
	But in the newsroom, they still... I mean, look, I can read the Wall Street Journal news side and discern the truth, which I can't do in the New York Times.
	I have no idea.
	When I read the New York Times, I know what the New York Times is selling me, but I don't know what the narrative is.
	There are still venues, even CBS has a certain level of commitment to the news that hasn't been entirely corrupted, even though everything you just said as a narrative is true.
	You know, there are individuals in unique places.
	I think in terms of these pollsters, if they get things wrong, we stop listening to them.
	I mean, that did happen this year.
	I mean, I can't tell you how many calls I took on the show from people basically saying, Can you tell me why I should listen to polls?
	Because I can't tell you not to listen to polls.
	My answer is, I don't believe all the polls, but I can't completely disbelieve the polls.
	Now I'm operating specifically in the absence of evidence, which I refuse to do.
	I'm going to say I doubt them, because I do, but I can't say they mean nothing.
	The way you talk about the polls now is so much different than the way you talked about them four years ago.
	Oh, 100%.
	Well, four years ago, they weren't off that much.
	I mean, as of 2012.
	In 2012, there was systemic polling error in favor of Mitt Romney.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Romney actually got overpolled in 2012.
	And in 2008, they were pretty dead on.
	So by 2016, people were like, okay, they kind of know what they're doing.
	And then the bottom fell out on Hillary, and Trump is such an off-the-wall character that they had no way to pull that.
	They didn't know what they were doing, and so this time around, it's like they might still not know what they're doing.
	By the way, it turns out that that was a myth that Fox uncalled Arizona.
	They've recalled Arizona, or they never uncalled Arizona.
	That was a Twitter thing that was going around apparently.
	Wow.
	And they've doubled down on the idea that Arizona is in Biden's category.
	I have friends here with the president in the White House right now saying there's a lot of confusion, even in the administration right now, about what's actually happening in some of these races.
	Yeah, I mean, Wisconsin apparently is trending toward Biden, which is what we would expect.
	It looks as though Fox News' decision desk is on the verge of calling Georgia in favor of Trump, even though the New York Times' needle is wobbling a bit, which means that we are where we were about 45 minutes ago, waiting on Pennsylvania or waiting on Michigan.
	And we're going to be waiting a while because they've announced that none of those results are coming in and it's going to be quite a while.
	So it all comes down, as we suspected, to probably – well, now Pennsylvania and Michigan.
	It's going to be – apparently in the next few minutes we are going to start getting some results from Nevada.
	Now, the reason that's important is because Trump lost Arizona.
	So if Trump lost Arizona, Trump needs to win Nevada.
	If he wins Nevada, then he's back on track, right?
	If he wins Nevada and the results from Nevada are shockingly good, which could happen, right?
	One of the outstanding theories about Nevada was that the early voting and focus on mail-in voting would really hurt Democrats in a serious way because their voter turnout efforts in Nevada are specifically geared at the restaurants and the workers and the unionized workers in the casinos.
	And none of the casinos have a lot of unionized workers working right now because of COVID.
	So that means that all those people are at home and getting them from home to the polls is a different thing than putting them on a bus at the MGM Grand and passing them to the polls as part of their union to go vote as a block en masse.
	So it'll be interesting to see if Trump does have any durability.
	In Nevada, if you were to pick up Nevada, that makes up for Arizona.
	Then all he has to do is win Pennsylvania, Nevada, and he still wins the election.
	So breaking news right now, Joe Biden is about to take the stage in Delaware to give remarks.
	Let's go to Vice President Joe Biden and hear what he has to say on this strange and unsettled evening.
	And declare victory.
	So where Joe Biden is about to come out.
	And to me, it's reminiscent of what we saw in the primaries, you know, when states were not being called like Iowa.
	Right.
	And then we started to see people coming up on stage and giving sort of quasi acceptance speeches that weren't acceptance speeches.
	But we feel really good about what happened tonight.
	And I think that that is, that's the pattern.
	I think that's what we're going to see.
	Yeah, but there was a difference because then you were in Iowa and you were building towards New Hampshire.
	There was a reason.
	Here it's a little different.
	I think he's really doing it just so psychologically, if they end up in challenges, he thinks he looks stronger.
	Alright, here's the former Vice President Joe Biden with Dr. Jill Biden.
	Let's listen in.
	Hello.
	Good evening. - See.
	Your patience is commendable.
	We knew this was going to go long, but who knew we were going to go into maybe tomorrow morning, maybe even longer.
	But look, we feel good about where we are.
	We really do.
	I'm here to tell you tonight, we believe we're on track to win this election.
	We knew because of the unprecedented early vote and the mail-in vote, that it's going to take a while.
	We're going to have to be patient until the hard work of tallying votes is finished.
	And it ain't over till every vote is counted.
	Every ballot is counted.
	But we're feeling good.
	We're feeling good about where we are.
	We believe one of the Mets has suggested we've already won Arizona, but we're confident about Arizona.
	That's a turnaround.
	We also just called it for Minnesota, and we're still in the game in Georgia.
	Although, that's not what we expected.
	And we're feeling real good about Wisconsin and Michigan.
	And by the way, It's going to take time to count the votes, but we're going to win Pennsylvania.
	I've been talking to folks in Philly, Allegheny County, Scranton, and they're really encouraged by the turnout and what they see.
	Look, you know, we could know the results as early as tomorrow morning, but it may take a little longer.
	As I've said all along, It's not my place or Donald Trump's place to declare who's won this election.
	That's the decision of the American people.
	But I'm optimistic about this outcome.
	And I want to thank every one of you who came out and voted in this election.
	And by the way, Chris Coons and the Democrats, congratulations here in Delaware.
	Hey, John, the Gov, yeah, the whole team, man.
	You've done a great job.
	I'm grateful to the poll workers, to our volunteers, our canvassers, everyone who participated in this democratic process.
	And I'm grateful to all my supporters here in Delaware and all across the nation.
	Thank you.
	And folks, you heard me say it before.
	Every time I walk out of my grandpa's house up in Scranton, he'd yell, Joey, keep the faith.
	And my grandma, when she was alive, he'd yell, no, Joey, spread it.
	Keep the faith, guys.
	We're going to win this.
	Thank you.
	Your patience is great.
	Let's walk over here.
	Former Vice President Joe Biden and his wife, Jill Biden, saying he feels good.
	Count every vote.
	So there you go.
	I'll call it on the night and go back to sleep.
	That's the same stuff I've ever done.
	I'm sure we're going to hear something from President Trump based on this, because it's going to go into the morning hours.
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	Plus, we're bringing you more results.
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	Yeah, and right now, if we go to the Daily Wire War Room, we're going to hear from our very own Cassie Dillon, who has the president's reaction on Twitter as we speak.
	So right now on Twitter, President Trump is responding.
	We just saw Vice President Biden give a speech.
	And now President Trump is saying he will be making a statement tonight.
	And then he said a big win.
	He also said, we are up big, but they're trying to steal the election.
	We will never let them do it.
	Votes cannot be cast after polls are closed.
	So it seems President Trump is going to continue covering this and he's not going down without a fight.
	Now let's pass it over to Alicia who's going to give an update on the numbers.
	So we saw how President Trump just reacted to what Joe Biden was saying there.
	A lot of us in the war room, a lot of people that have been in politics for a long time said that his language was setting up the, we're not finished tonight, we're not giving up tonight, his rhetoric of every vote must be counted.
	Makes it seem like the update that Cabot had earlier from officials in those states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania is also how the Biden campaign is kind of pivoting and making that's their rhetoric too.
	Oh, absolutely.
	He's completely setting the stage for what is to be expected now, which is going to be This is going to be dragged out for a few days.
	They are going to be scraping the barrel for every single vote they can find in all likelihood, as both sides would.
	I think that's accepted.
	But the fact is, we simply don't know the data.
	You saw in his language, he wasn't really claiming victory.
	It was more just the importance of waiting.
	He's setting the stage for patient Democrats, because time is good for them.
	And I think that's going to frustrate Trump.
	Head to the tweet.
	OK.
	And so also, we're seeing a lot of data, guys, just so you know.
	You've referenced it a little bit.
	But as you guys have been having some conversations over there, some really interesting conversations by the way, we've been seeing that projections have been changing and shifting and now states that were trending toward Trump-Pence like Georgia and North Carolina Aren't the sure things that a lot of people were projecting they might be?
	Yeah, I think the issue is it's just been so inconsistent.
	So I've had some notes here like Arizona, Trump 2020 senior advisor Jason Miller said that it's way too soon to be calling Arizona.
	Then there were rumors that Fox News retracted it.
	They haven't, but other places haven't called Arizona.
	Then there's Georgia, which out of nowhere suddenly started tilting Biden 67% according to the New York Times.
	And for us, that seemed to come out of nowhere.
	The data doesn't really seem to suggest that.
	Then Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, all saying they're going to be waiting to count votes.
	And those, as we spoke before, they're the key states.
	So for an answer, we're just going to have to wait.
	We're going to have to wait and see.
	And thank you to the audience and the members that are here with us, because we wouldn't be able to be here.
	Oh, and we're still here for you guys, if it weren't for you.
	So I'm going to ask you guys some questions.
	The first one goes to Ben.
	People want to know, on several occasions, Ben, you have talked about Trump's win in 2016 being a reaction to their smear of Romney in 2012.
	If Trump ends up winning tonight, which as we just discussed, nobody's going home a winner tonight, what will the left's retaliation look like in 2024?
	Well, I mean, in 2024, the one thing that you can bet on for sure is that the Democrats are going to claim that whoever comes after Trump, and this is regardless of whether he wins or loses, is worse than Trump.
	Always.
	Right.
	They will always say this.
	So if Nikki Haley becomes the nominee, it will be, well, at least Donald Trump wasn't a warmonger like Nikki Haley.
	Donald Trump was a racist, but at least he was clear about his racism.
	Strange new respect for Donald Trump.
	That's what we'll get.
	And it'll be Donald Trump was a racist, but he was an obvious racist.
	Nikki Haley is much more subtle with her, you know, Indian.
	Backgrounded, not being a white person at all.
	That's really what it'll be.
	It'll be Ron DeSantis if he's the nominee.
	At least Donald Trump didn't try to masquerade as a man of the people.
	He was a gilded... It'll all turn into this revisionist history.
	This happens with every single Republican.
	This is why you get the strange new respect for George W. Bush, who they all thought was Hitler back in 2006.
	So you'll get a lot of that.
	If Donald Trump wins, They have the opportunity, the Democrats do, to sit with themselves for a little while and learn some lessons.
	But they've shown themselves utterly unwilling to do that.
	I mean, in 2016 they could have learned some lessons.
	I said in 2016, all they had to do was not be crazy.
	And they literally could not do it.
	They decided what would be a great idea is to riot in the streets and to talk about how if you didn't vote for Joe Biden or celebrate rioting in the middle of COVID, that you are somehow a vicious racist and you ought to be fired from your job.
	And a lot of people, you know, if it's not a silent majority for Trump, it's certainly a silent majority that rejects wokeism.
	I think that's pretty obvious.
	The woke mentality.
	But I don't have a lot of faith in Democrats that they're not going to react to either a Trump victory or a narrow Biden victory.
	With anything remotely approaching rationality because they haven't been rational about any of this at all like in any way shape or form.
	Anyway.
	So Donald Trump, we obviously just lost Alicia.
	I don't know how that happened.
	No worries.
	We are going to get to more Daily Wire member questions as we go throughout the evening.
	But what we're waiting on right now is Nevada.
	I mean, all eyes on Nevada.
	Right.
	If Trump is able to somehow flip Nevada, then the loss of Arizona becomes less of a looming problem for him.
	You heard Joe Biden say they weren't expecting Georgia, but they were more optimistic about Georgia.
	Georgia is still a little bit up in the air, but likely to go for Trump.
	At this point, if you had to ballpark this thing, you still say that Biden is probably a 60-40 favorite to be the president after all this is said and done, just because the numbers don't seem to favor Trump heavily.
	At this point, if he has to win Pennsylvania-plus, that puts him in not a wonderful position.
	You want him to be in a- Not impossible.
	Not impossible.
	He could win Michigan.
	John James is outperforming the polls there, apparently, by a pretty wide margin.
	So theoretically, you could have a shocker in Michigan or a shocker in Wisconsin.
	He doesn't seem to be performing in Wisconsin quite as well as he is in Michigan.
	There are a lot of folks in Michigan who are sort of saying this.
	I was hearing in Michigan that the polls were just wrong in Michigan, not as much in Wisconsin.
	Nevada, they have some hope held out.
	President Trump, of course, tweeting out about, we are up big, but they are trying to steal the election.
	We'll never let them do it.
	Votes cannot be cast after the polls are closed.
	He did, in fact, spell polls P-O-L.
	Yes.
	So we have to make sure.
	What I like about the president is he wants you to know it's him tweeting.
	It is not an aide.
	I am the real Donald Trump.
	It says it right there.
	Real Donald Trump.
	Twitter, by the way, breaking news.
	Twitter has suspended Trump's tweet.
	So that very tweet that Ben just really, really, I'm not sure if it's the one that says, wow, up big or the one where he says big win.
	But one of the two tweets that Cassie deleted, he deleted the misspelled polls tweet.
	No, no.
	One.
	There is one that is now censored.
	Yeah.
	They were up big.
	They were up big, but they're trying to steal the election.
	That's how much they don't want you to get any information that counters their narrative.
	And this goes to my point about the media.
	shared in this tweet is disputed by us and might be misleading about an election or other civic process.
	There's another warning here.
	Learn about U.S. elections.
	I mean, and you can't view it on his timeline.
	You have to click through another link to see what it actually says.
	President of the United States.
	Unbelievable.
	That's how much they don't want you to get any information that counters their narrative.
	And this goes to my point about the media.
	It doesn't even change.
	The voting is mostly over in every place that matters right now.
	They're not censoring him for the outcome.
	They're censoring him to show everybody else who thinks like them that they are virtuous, that they are noble, that they're on the side of what's right and what's good and what's holy.
	I mean, this could be just an absolute bleep show, right?
	I mean, that most obvious problem, this is why All votes should be on election day.
	Yes, I agree.
	Because the fact that this is now going to drag out probably for another two days, I would imagine a minimum for another two days.
	It means that Trump voters are going to believe that Trump legit won the election and that it was stolen from him if Biden takes it.
	And Biden voters are going to believe precisely the opposite if Trump takes it.
	And if it gets appealed to the Supreme Court, we're going to get a bunch of talk about how Amy Coney Barrett and Kavanaugh and Gorsuch all have to recuse themselves because they're Trump appointees.
	By the way, It's gonna mess all the way through.
	Think about what the president just said, for which Twitter has penalized him, and then think about what Joe Biden actually just said on the stage during his remarks, where he said, we're going to win Pennsylvania.
	I mean, he has it on good authority from the Attorney General.
	I mean, he made very declarative statements, but there's no censorship when you're on the left.
	No.
	Because there's no virtue in showing censorship to the left, right?
	Well, absolutely.
	And Twitter is an absolute Democrat project.
	A leftist project.
	I wouldn't even say Democrat.
	They're a leftist.
	True leftist.
	I want to go back to Alicia and get a few more questions from our Daily Wire members.
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	Alicia?
	Yes, the next question is for Michael Knowles.
	People really want to know, and Ben just said there, you know, is it going to be a couple more days?
	But Knowles, what do you think is a realistic timeline for when we have an election result?
	As we know from the War Room, we apparently have until December 6th.
	Is this going to be a post-Thanksgiving thing?
	a little nervous to say it will go on that long.
	I mean, there have been people who joke that it'll go on until January, February or March.
	I don't think that's the case.
	There's just too much pressure on it.
	So it looks like it's going to come down to Pennsylvania.
	We already know because the attorney general told us that it's over for Biden several days ago.
	So that's fine.
	Actually, that tweet, though, will be grounds for some of the lawsuits that are guaranteed to go on there.
	You had the Biden campaign, by the way, bragging months ago that they had hired 600 lawyers to battle out and try to win this election in the courts.
	The Trump campaign lawyered up as well.
	The best lawyers.
	You'll never see lawyers like this, folks.
	So, you know, that will go on for a while.
	And who knows?
	I mean, it could work all the way up to the courts.
	And as Ben said, you'll get arguments about how any judge who ever met a Republican has got to recuse themselves.
	But I don't think it's going to go on for two months or three months.
	As we mentioned earlier, Antonin Scalia said what was so humiliating about Bush v. Gore, he had the greatest democracy in the world that couldn't resolve its own election.
	Here, you know, we're not going to have Bush v. Gore times three or times four or times five.
	It doesn't look that way.
	So if it does become a matter of Pennsylvania, I suspect that they'll be able to resolve it relatively quickly.
	But there's a huge world in which we don't know tomorrow, and maybe we don't even know Friday.
	All right, Drew, this question is for you.
	Is voter turnout so high this election cycle because of mail-in popularity with voters, or do you think it's the highly charged nature of where the country sits right now politically?
	B.
	It's obviously the highly charged nature.
	Trump is a divisive figure, but he's also a figure that inspires passion.
	I don't think anybody, I seriously don't think anybody went to the polls because they thought that Joe Biden was their dream guy.
	I think that people went to the polls to vote against Trump or for Trump.
	He is a world historical figure now.
	He is a guy like Napoleon.
	that basically sets the tenor of the time.
	Whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing, it doesn't matter.
	It is an actual fact that this is a guy who has occupied and colonized our imaginations, and people went to the polls as a referendum on Donald Trump, and a lot of them went to the polls because Donald Trump is such a powerful figure.
	And that's what's happened.
	You know, he is a genuine historical guy at this point. - All right. - Can we be clear on one thing here?
	I think it's worth noting.
	Which is that if there were no such thing as early voting, Trump would have won this election.
	Because the surge in the last two weeks of the election, based on the polling data, suggests that Trump really closed the gap in a major way in a lot of these swing states.
	But so many votes came in early that people had already voted, and so that last debate didn't make... I don't understand the logic of early voting.
	I'm with you on this a hundred percent.
	I think people should go to the polls on a day, vote Yeah.
	There's supposed to be an election day.
	It is supposed to be inconvenient to vote.
	It's supposed to not be supremely easy to vote.
	You're supposed to have to want to exercise that responsibility.
	If you make it too easy for everyone, then it really becomes a popularity contest.
	It becomes a faddish And why shouldn't you be able to target a date that you're playing toward?
	Why shouldn't you be able to say, I'm going to... And it is fundamentally wrong to vote before the election is over.
	It presumes that you know things that you may or may not actually know, which is why one of the most popular search trends after the second debate was, can I change my vote?
	And think about that.
	After the second debate, how do I change my vote?
	There shouldn't have been any votes.
	Even if you believe that one day, that we should have a voting week, or that we should have a voting three days.
	The debates were weeks ago, and already 40, 50, 60, 70 million votes.
	Had been cast.
	But listen, we have swapped out Daily Wire editor-in-chief, John Bickley, for another tall, handsome dude who's also a PhD, who's also intelligent, and also has a deep voice, and that is the young Clint McClain.
	You'll barely notice Bickley was gone.
	Yeah, but only one of you has a square beard.
	This is true.
	This has become my trademark.
	In the pandemic season, I just decided to rebel by growing a square beard.
	I like it.
	Spencer, you put out a video with The Daily Wire this week about how what's really happening on the left is a revolution.
	I was sort of inspired at a breakfast that I had with you.
	You brought up the same point.
	And I've expounded on it and thought about it in my own way.
	But I wonder if you could give us just a little bit of that here.
	What do you mean a revolution?
	Absolutely.
	There's two points to make.
	One is, it's not an election about which way we're going to take the country.
	It's an election about whether the country is good or evil.
	And that's, you know, this is the meaning of the phrase systemic racism.
	It's the fundamental just definition.
	No matter how much you protest that you're a moderate, that Joe Biden is the one who's going to stop all the riots.
	If what you're telling people is that fundamentally in its systems, in its structure, your country is racist, which is an evil thing to be, people are going to start rioting and tearing statues down.
	There's just, there's no logical conclusion other than that.
	So when you say, as Joe Biden has said, that there is systemic racism, that you have a plan to root it out, it doesn't matter how you present yourself.
	It doesn't matter what else you say to the contrary or whether you just pretend you're trying to reform things.
	You're actually staging and abetting a revolution.
	So that's the first thing.
	Second thing is that it's not a popular revolution.
	It's not a popular uprising, it's not oppressed people, it's all the stuff that they claim about, you know, oh, these poor, marginalized, whatever, black latinx, whatever, black people that are rising up.
	This is an elite, PhD-driven, CEO-funded, right, Jack Dorsey's funneling tens of millions of dollars into people like Ibram X. Kendi, university professors that are overthrowing our republic in the name of their own corrupt oligarchy.
	And that's what they are doing.
	And the whole idea that this is this kind of uprising from the ground up is a classic Marxist technique.
	It's this, you take all this popular unrest, which exists because you generated it by locking people inside their homes for however many months and making sure they had to wear masks and conceal their identities, dehumanize one another.
	And drilling into their heads over and over and over again that your countrymen are racist, your countrymen hate you for whatever reason that we invent today, and then you just tell them, and now you have to riot, now you have to take to the streets.
	That's Marxism!
	It's just Marxism.
	It's amazing how they use that playbook.
	So the term racism now is just a synonym for evil, right?
	So it's not enough to just to not be evil, you have to be actively good or anti-racist.
	And this idea that when blacks or Hispanics don't vote the way that they're supposed to, that they're exhibiting a false consciousness.
	This Marxist.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Today, Nicole Hannah-Jones, one of the foremost ringleaders of this entire thing, right?
	The architect of the New York Times 1619 Project tweeted the day after this election is over.
	You cannot make this up.
	The day after this election is over, I'm going to write a little article about how the term Latino is made up because it lumps white Cubans.
	I hate that.
	Oh my gosh, there's white Cubans, right?
	It lumps them in with all the actual brown and black, the real true black.
	It's like, you know, after this election, traders will be stripped of their preferred status.
	And there will be racial purity.
	Exactly.
	You know, and it's like you couldn't ask them to state it more outright.
	Right.
	We refuse to believe that.
	We just imagine that they're trying to kind of, you know, oh, you know, I concede some good points to you.
	You know, you may be right.
	No, no, no.
	They're trying to destroy us.
	They want to stay.
	Yeah, that's a bright spot in California.
	Just as an election update, it looks like California is set to vote down that idiotic ballot initiative, getting rid of the getting rid of the anti-racial preferences.
	Thank goodness.
	It looks it looks like Republican that the Californian public will vote that down.
	It also looks like the proposition That was said to get rid of Uber and Lyft in the state was even too much for California voters.
	So it looks like they're going to vote.
	Uber went all in.
	You couldn't get a car in the last three months without being told how to vote on.
	They had to.
	Right.
	Otherwise, they literally would not exist.
	We just not be here anymore.
	It shows you what would happen if you were to take all of the apparatus that they've been using to remind us to vote, vote, vote.
	Right.
	Which is all vote for Biden.
	Right.
	Every time you open Instagram, every time you tweet anything, if you just took that apparatus and directed it toward one Republican policy.
	So these business people, they get incensed about the fact that they're going to like have to fire all of their people.
	And suddenly you can't get an Uber without getting reminded about this.
	Right.
	It works.
	Like, why isn't the right doing this?
	Right.
	Why don't we do it more?
	Because they control so many of the levers of influence.
	And the ones even the ones where we get a foothold, they try to actually strip us up.
	You know, I want to pick back up on the revolution thing for one minute, because there's an aspect of it that I've been hitting on that I think it goes right along with what you're saying.
	But it's a slightly different color.
	And that's that.
	Historically, we voted for policy preferences.
	I don't like the... And listen, policy preferences can have extraordinary consequences.
	Abortion is a great example.
	I vote Republican because I'm pro-life.
	I don't want to see abortion, which I believe is the taking of a human life.
	That's a very consequential issue, but it is still fundamentally an issue of policy.
	I want taxes to be lower.
	I think that's better for the economy.
	You want taxes to be higher.
	You think that's better for equity.
	This is a policy disagreement.
	This particular election is not about policy.
	The left isn't running on a policy platform.
	They're running on the idea of changing the structure of the government itself.
	They're essentially saying the Electoral College fundamentally unfair.
	We're going to do away with it.
	They're saying The Supreme Court, as currently constituted, fundamentally unfair.
	We're going to change it.
	They're saying some of this isn't constitutional changes, it's changes to the norms, like the filibuster.
	The filibuster, which protects minority rights, has gotten in our way.
	We're going to get rid of it.
	Once we've gotten rid of it, the 50-state structure that's held for the last half century or more in this country doesn't favor us in terms of senatorial representation or votes for the presidency.
	So we're going to alter it by simple majority and add states.
	They're saying that the First Amendment should be mitigated.
	The Second Amendment should be mitigated.
	Due process should be mitigated.
	They're saying that equal justice is, as Eric Weinstein said when he was here, somehow a sign of white supremacy.
	The 14th Amendment is a sign of white supremacy.
	What they're saying is they want to have an election that's post-policy, where if we vote for them, policy will actually never be on the docket again, 'cause you won't be allowed to talk, you won't be allowed to defend yourself, you won't have any protection from capricious overreach by the government, you won't have any representation, meaningful representation you won't have any representation, meaningful representation in the Senate, and the Supreme Court will exist to validate anything that they try to cram down your throats.
	In that world, it's foolish to talk about abortion.
	It's foolish to talk about taxation.
	It's foolish to talk about any of our Green New Deal, even as sweeping as that is, becomes foolish because all policy disagreement goes out the door when you reframe a country.
	As we said earlier, as you said, they're trying to reframe America.
	That is a revolutionary Yeah, we're voting on the context within which we're going to have these conversations.
	We're not voting on one side of the conversation over another.
	Do you guys remember when those football kids, those high school football players, got suspended for flying the Blue Lives Matter flag?
	And what the superintendent said, whoever suspended them, said, you know, we didn't want them to be making a political statement.
	Right.
	So what counts as political, right?
	When we say the word political, what we typically mean is, I mean, what we should mean is the structure of our lives together.
	But what we typically mean is the things that we're fighting over right now and the things that are outside of the Overton window.
	That's the stuff that you can say and be considered apolitical.
	So you can post a black square on Instagram.
	You have to.
	You have to.
	It's compulsory.
	And the reason it's compulsory is because it's not political.
	It's the background of the regime.
	And that's what they want.
	They want their Their way of life to be the background of what we do.
	It sort of has to be that way.
	They have to be so right that we're evil and can't speak because their policies don't work.
	I mean, this is an important point.
	When you look at San Francisco, one of the most beautiful cities.
	I lived there many thousands of years ago.
	It was one of the most beautiful cities in the country.
	It is now a cesspit.
	And yet, and yet, if you say, hey, something's wrong here, there's something evil about you.
	It has to be that way because otherwise you are just faced with the policies and the results.
	You know this is a conversation we've had for a long time which is, I think we often get the conversations over free speech or censorship or political correctness, we get it wrong because we're just fighting narrowly over the Banned tweet, or the word you're not allowed to say, when really what the battle is about is the way in which we view the world, the kind of background of the world.
	There are always these norms, there are always these standards, and what the left has done is overturned all of the old standards and replaced them with the new ones, such that... What is the meaning of the black square?
	The meaning of the black square is this country is horrifically racist, There is an epidemic of racist cops slaughtering innocent black men.
	As LeBron James says, black men can't walk out their doors without being hunted down.
	That is the explicit meaning of that black square.
	And if you don't believe that, you will be ostracized.
	Yeah.
	Did you guys have any of these conversations that I have had in the last couple weeks leading up to the election where you said, you know, I think these polls are catastrophically off.
	I think they're profoundly off.
	And they're off because they're first-level premises.
	And not only do people say, well, I think you're wrong, but they reacted with indignation, with deep, appalled, this sort of sense of offense.
	Because you've threatened not just their idea about what's going to happen, but their entire ethos of how political life is done.
	And if you believe, as they do, the people that I'm, you know, having these conversations with, believe that democracy is effectively obsolete, because the, like, mechanism, the algebraic mechanism of the input that you're gonna feed in and the output you're gonna get has been 100% calculated, like atoms bouncing off of one another, the same way they believe that the whole world is just matter bouncing off of each other, They also believe that that's what democracy is and how it can be best optimized.
	And when you tell them that you think that they've just, you know, seen the world wrong, they respond with the kind of moral just shock that they would also respond with if you said, I think systemic racism is a lie.
	It's all part of one attitude.
	It's the attitude that you're outside.
	Although I will say that I think that there is a bit of a difference between the two attitudes.
	So the attitude about polling, I think comes from, it just goes to show that logic is not Consistent among Democrats on the one hand if you say show me the evidence of systemic racism because that's a very miasmatic and unclear argument So you need to actually show me the evidence Then they get very offended that you're asking to see evidence if you say I think the polls are wrong Then they will say well evidence matters.
	I mean haven't you seen the data in the polls?
	Yeah, and so it's almost whatever is useful.
	Whatever brick is at hand is what they are used to using Listen, I get the discomfort.
	I do I've experienced myself.
	I get the discomfort with People saying, I don't believe the polls.
	Because like, OK, well, what is there to believe or not believe?
	They're right or they're wrong.
	It's not a matter of belief.
	It's either they're correctly modeled or they're not correctly modeled.
	They'll be what they are.
	So I get that level of discomfort.
	What I don't get is the wild ire at anybody who says that we should take the polls with a grain of salt.
	Because the polls themselves are supposed to be taken with a grain of salt.
	There is a thing called margin of error in the polls.
	Particularly in the future, which we actually don't have the science to do.
	There is no science to predict irregular events in the future.
	And so it's the same thing with climate change.
	You know, climate change is a guess.
	It's a reasonable guess, you know, but it may be wrong.
	And every time, the whole thing about science is you compare your guesses to reality.
	And when reality contradicts them, you change your guess.
	And the fact that you could actually object to their guesses tells you that the guess is Well, I'll tell you what it's like.
	In the evangelical world, every six years, eight years, there probably is an actual number, I don't know it, someone comes along and says, that the end of days is going to happen and they name a date.
	And they do this because the Bible explicitly says no one knows the date except this one chump who's going to show up in 2020 and bilk you for $10 million.
	They name him.
	So the Christians fall for this time and time and time again.
	I remember being at the South Plains Fair in Lubbock, Texas, when I was ten, eight, nine, ten years old, and I saw this painting of the Tribulation, you know, and it was supposed to happen that year, which was like 1988 or something, you know.
	They had all the signs and wonders and, you know, if you read the Bible backwards in Latin and convert it into digits and put it on a metric clock and they really pin it down.
	And people get swept up in it.
	People I know, people I love, people who are intelligent, successful in business, people with good families, get swept up in it.
	Some people I know have been swept up in, not every one of them, but multiple of them across the course of the 41 years that I've been on the planet.
	And when you try to talk to them about it, even just to say like, well what makes this one different than the one in 1988 that I remember you were also, you know, committed to?
	They show that same level of indignation, and it's a religious indignation, which is why I bring it up.
	You are now challenging their religious belief about what is going to happen.
	And the reason that I've always said, you know, I have this little home church and I've been doing it for, I don't know, 18 years or some version like that, and no one comes to it, right?
	It's a small, sort of decidedly small group.
	I always say, if I ever wanted to explode the numbers, I would teach about revelation and the end of days, because everyone wants to know what's going to happen.
	Everyone wants not only the security of knowing, but they want the special knowledge.
	They want to be the ones that God chose to reveal special knowledge to.
	They want to know what you don't know.
	And if they like you, they want to tell you.
	And if they really hate you, they might also want to tell you.
	But if they're indifferent to you, maybe they don't want you to know, because then they wouldn't be right.
	They want that special, secret blessing of knowing the future.
	And I'm always reminded, That all of the people who, in the Bible, claim to know the future are wrong.
	And it's not that they don't know the prophecy.
	It's that they don't know the purpose of prophecy.
	That biblical prophecy isn't so that, it's not God telling you the future so that you will know what's going to happen.
	It's God telling you the future so that when the future arrives, you will know that He was God.
	You can tell the truth.
	So that you can tell the truth.
	God doesn't give us the future, because if you had the future, there'd be no need for faith.
	Now that's a sort of religious way of thinking about it, but in much more practical terms, maybe for our purposes, you're not smart enough to know the future.
	Nothing that you're ever going to learn is going to tell you the future.
	Because if you knew the future, you would be more than human.
	And you are not more than human.
	You're just another club.
	And when you object to it, you're actually, they feel that you're objecting to the underlying belief.
	And that's the thing you see when you say, these polls, I'm not sure about these polls, what you're really saying to them is, you don't have any special virtue.
	You don't have special power.
	You're not special.
	And their whole claim to authority is Right.
	It's based on those special powers.
	And the people who have claimed to those special powers in my entire lifetime have thoroughly beclowned themselves.
	All their predictive powers, all their special insight, all their fancy credentials, all turned out to be false and wrong.
	All their five-year plans, all their end of histories, all of their...
	Right, right.
	And this is, I mean, so there is something I will concede, right, agonizing about not knowing what's going to happen five minutes from now, Except that it's the entire human experience.
	I was sitting backstage with, you guys had Dave Rubin on, I was sitting backstage with him, we were watching this whole thing unfold, and we were both sort of thinking like, this is the funnest country in the world.
	I can't believe Biden was up like 15 points, and now every state is like this toss-up, and there is, I mean, it's nail-biting.
	But it's super fun if you believe that God is in charge.
	The thing that makes it fun is if you actually have some, you know, overarching faith that it's a story with a narrator.
	If you don't, if you just think it's Adams bouncing off of one another, of course all you're doing is just trying to get control.
	You said something very intelligent the other day which shocked me and I had to do a double take.
	You said something very intelligent on this point of Of basically breaking out of the system that does not have this predictive power and that is totally corrupted.
	We hear it with the woke, but it's happening a little bit on the right too, even in the language that we use to describe this.
	That's right.
	Yeah, I think that when people... You notice on the left and the right, this language of getting woke or getting red-pilled.
	Getting red-pilled is waking up out of the matrix.
	It's the same thing as getting woke.
	And both of them just mean, I was living in a simulation.
	We talk also about the simulation.
	And the simulation is, there are these two flavors of thing on the table in front of me.
	One flavor is called Republican and one flavor is called Democrat.
	And I basically feel like both of them have been offering me the same thing.
	Conservatives feel like both of them have been offering me this kind of, you know, limp-wristed libertarianism, basically.
	That was homophobic, by the way.
	You're not a lesbian.
	I'm not, but, you know, I'm already an ex-gay, apparently.
	Or an un-gay, I think is how it works.
	Un-gay.
	Double plus.
	I'm not a Latino anymore either.
	So that's the thing.
	Basically, I think a lot of the really hardcore right-wingers think that both Republicans and Democrats were offering that.
	And a lot of the Bernie bros feel like both Republicans and Democrats were offering this kind of neoliberalism that just benefits the upper class ultimately.
	And, you know, a lot of it has to do with immigration, but it has to do with, you know, the middle class and so forth.
	And so this whole idea that you're, you know, you're trying basically to get something that transcends that system.
	My shtick now is like the only actual thing that does that, because all the other stuff that people are offering is basically just atavism.
	It's just tribalism.
	Like, let's divide everybody by race.
	Let's like lift weights a bunch and be super buff or whatever.
	Like, the only thing that actually does this is to genuinely do and say what the American Constitution does and say.
	So like, for example, freedom of association, a radical thing.
	Like, if my employer could actually fire me for being gay, like the Constitution says he should be able to do.
	Not that I think he would ever do it.
	Not that I think really anybody would do it at this point.
	But like, that is the most insane, red-pilled, woke thing of anything.
	But we're all looking for that, right?
	We're all searching for something that breaks out of that scripted system.
	I think an important piece of this, and we talk about it sometimes on our backstage show, and it's probably worth saying here now as this night begins to wane and as it becomes more and more clear that we're almost certainly not going to know tonight who is the president.
	Millions of Americans are going to go to bed tonight in a kind of distress because obviously the stakes truly are quite high in this election.
	They're always high.
	They're probably uniquely high in this particular election.
	Because we've been worked into a frenzy by the media over the last four years.
	And really, I would say over the last 12 years.
	Because the Obama years were so inciting to Republicans.
	Because we were being told, you have no future.
	It is not your country.
	Your day is over.
	This is the end of history.
	As they always believe that it's the end of history when they win.
	Even on the right, we're saying if Joe Biden wins, it's the end of America as we know it.
	If the left ascends, it's the end of America as we know it.
	I think it's worth probably mentioning.
	I mean, and we don't know, when will we know?
	You could go to bed tonight and miss it and wake up in the morning and somebody's the president and you didn't even see it happen.
	Or you could wake up tomorrow and we're still a week away from now.
	I mean, it's a very distressing time.
	But I think it's worth observing that while the stakes are high, the stakes are not ultimate.
	That who you are ultimately, your ultimate future, is not held by the government, it's held by God.
	God unfolds history.
	Whoever wins the presidency, God did that.
	And God's ways are not our ways.
	You know, that's one of the first... You haven't even scratched the surface of wisdom until you know that God's ways aren't our ways.
	Even when we say things like, America will be over if Joe Biden is president, we're assuming that we know a bunch of things that we don't know.
	That's right.
	Joe Biden could be like, in California, we had a governor named Jerry Brown, and he was a radical leftist governor.
	And then he goes away for a generation, and he comes back 180 years later, and he's our governor again.
	Only the second time that he's governor, the Democrats in this state have become so radical Yeah.
	that they've left his radicalism behind.
	And while he still does many things that I dislike, there are real consequences of his governorship, he actually serves as a kind of bulwark against the radical left because he simply won't sign the...
	It's possible that Joe Biden will actually be... will actually prevent the radical left from being able to get the kinds of victories that they might otherwise get.
	It's possible that Joe Biden wins the presidency, and because of his age and health, never even serves one day as president.
	Or he serves a year, or two years, or three years, and isn't able to conclude his term, and Kamala Harris becomes president.
	Unbelievable joy of knowing that the first woman president wasn't elected.
	The funniest thing that's ever happened.
	But as our friend Jonathan Hay has observed, we would be ascending someone so unpopular, even among Democrats, that she could not win a single vote.
	In the primaries, and had to drop out, not even able to carry around his face.
	And then a Republican could have sent to get him in for you.
	The thing that occurred to me this morning is every time somebody says, this is the most important election of our lifetime, he's actually making a prediction.
	He's actually talking about something he doesn't know.
	Because it may be a completely irrelevant election.
	Because we don't know what's going to actually happen.
	Also, again, that comes down to the arrogance of control.
	The feeling like, okay, this election matters so much because I'm involved with it right now.
	And it's also such a meaningless statement, because elections that happened in the past are by nature in the past, and the ones that have yet to come are by nature not happening right now.
	It's like saying the most important moment of your life is this one.
	And this one.
	Because it's literally the moment that you are in, right?
	I mean, there happens to be a currency bias.
	But I tweeted earlier today, you should vote, and then you should go do something much more important and spend time with your kids.
	And the truth is that the future of the country is going to matter a lot.
	It's going to depend a lot less on how people voted tonight and how much time we spend on our kids is going to matter a whole hell of a lot more.
	And the kind of institutional changes that we push for, which we've been talking about all night and pitching all night, that's going to make a lot more difference.
	People have a habit in the United States of thinking that they get to sound off once every four years and then just abdicate the rest of the time.
	The left never sleeps, which is one of the reasons they've taken over so many institutions in American life.
	You know, you voting is not the end of your civic responsibility.
	It's the beginning of your civic responsibility.
	And maybe not even that.
	It's just kind of a moment.
	The actual truth is your civic responsibility fundamentally.
	Is to think less about politics.
	Yep.
	Think more about your family.
	If you're not married, get married.
	If you don't have kids, get kids.
	If you don't have a job, get a job.
	And actually be a productive... If you are on social media too much, turn it off.
	Go meet your neighbor.
	If your neighbor has a need, help them meet it.
	If they aren't worthy, help them all the more.
	If you loan somebody money, don't expect them to repay you.
	If they waste it and five years later they need more help, And you can do it in good faith without contributing to their problem?
	Help them, because they're real humans.
	They have works and flaws just like you.
	That's where a citizen engages.
	A citizen, his fundamental responsibility is to engage with his community and to be a good citizen.
	I always ask leftists when they're telling me, oh, Donald Trump is the worst thing that ever... I always say, how has he affected you?
	How, you know, what right have you lost?
	How is your life constricted?
	What has gone on?
	And they always have this idea, well, we go back to what we were talking about with Dennis, about humanity.
	Well, humanity is suffering.
	And I think, like, are you suffering?
	Because if you're not suffering, Then live your life and vote for your best life because if everybody votes for his best life, we'll be fine.
	You know, somehow we'll be fine.
	It's so important that this includes if Donald Trump wins.
	Yeah.
	Because like in 2016, we voted Donald Trump in and we were like, oh yes, now we have delivered the stinging rebuke to the sort of Deep state and the woke system and all these things.
	And all we have to do is just have Donald Trump be president, right?
	And all the stuff that we said about putting out your faith in princes leading up to the election, we just completely forgot, you know?
	And in fact, all that happened is that, like, you know, the stony sleep was vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle.
	There was a beast, like, that rose up in the last six months, basically, that just reasserted itself.
	We had no idea.
	We had no idea that we hadn't even begun to do the work.
	If Trump wins, we've got to start doing the work.
	So the work doesn't end.
	Right.
	And sometimes I see people who are in their 80s.
	My grandfather, whom I love dearly, a true patriarch of my family, a real inspiration.
	He, eighth grade education, starts a business in his 40s after making a very low workman's wage and raising seven kids.
	He starts a business and builds it into a success very late in life.
	He gets this, this amazing act.
	And over the last few weeks, he's suffered some real health crises.
	He's been hospitalized twice.
	He battled Parkinson's and diabetes and COVID-19 over the last few weeks.
	It was very touch and go.
	We weren't sure he had a future.
	Now, thank God, he's home and seems to be well recovered from his bout of COVID.
	I say all of this to say, as I watched him suffer over the last few weeks, it's been painful because I love him.
	There's also been A bit of inspiration in it.
	And I don't mean inspiration because of how he's faced it.
	No, he's very old and you don't actually face things heroically.
	Death, old age, they're humiliations.
	By design, they're humiliations.
	The last thing that you will do as you leave this mortal coil is soil yourself.
	In the moment that your spirit leaves your body, you will defecate.
	As just God's way of saying, yes, Death is the ultimate humiliation.
	All of your dignity is robbed from you.
	So it's not that my grandfather's been this inspiration going through this.
	It's that you get to watch and see, oh, God's not finished with you.
	Even now, there are things you must suffer, suffer.
	Even now, there are things you must learn.
	Even now, there are things you must endure.
	And even now, there are things that you can teach the rest of us, not by your wisdom, but by your experience, by watching your experience.
	That's great, great.
	And that is how we should approach every day as Americans, is saying, yeah, the battle is never over because God's not going to give us a victory.
	What he gives us is opportunity, opportunity again and again and again to be, to learn, to grow, to try, to fail, to get back up and try again.
	It's such a great point.
	I have seen several people die.
	I've been with people in the moments of their death, in the moments before their death, and the thing that always amazes me is that they're still them.
	And that what they have to say by being them continues to be said.
	And death means nothing.
	I mean death, you know, when they say death wears thy victory, that's it.
	That you remain who you are, and I believe you remain who you are even after death.
	But the fact that you are facing these things as yourself is everything you have to teach.
	We are all, you know, the left always says, well, you're performing masculinity.
	And I think you bet I am.
	Yeah.
	You're doing it the best I can.
	what masculinity is doing it yeah i want you to see this flesh this body this failure this miserable sinner i want you to see masculinity in me i want you to see all the good things in me in this lousy broken person and that happens right up until the minute they cart you off and i think that people are parting them off just a good job joe biden has called a lid wait for tonight or for tomorrow For the night.
	He's called the lid for the evening.
	That's terrific.
	So there's that.
	Spencer, I want to say thank you to you for joining us.
	If you're not listening to the Young Heretics, you're missing out and you don't know nothing.
	I know because every time I listen, I realize that I don't know.
	We can fix that on this show.
	A truly fabulous podcast.
	Great insight.
	Thanks for joining us tonight.
	We're now going to go to the Daily Wire War Room where Elisha has updates for us.
	Hey everyone, and I do have to say real quick, if President Trump, like he tweeted, comes on and starts to talk to the American people, we will totally cut away from our War Room coverage right now to carry that for you live.
	So stay tuned, you won't miss the President.
	Everybody wants to hear what he's going to say.
	It's a very interesting night.
	Another interesting tidbit, as our very own Ian Howarth talked about earlier, there had been this report that maybe Fox News had decided to retract That Arizona had gone to Biden.
	Fox News never retracted that, but they are the only network out there in the mainstream media network out there that called Arizona early.
	And we're going to talk to Cabot Phillips about what Fox News' own Katie Pavlich is saying about this.
	Well, we can now report that Kanye West has won Arizona.
	Just kidding.
	That has not happened.
	Just making sure all of you are still paying attention.
	No, we actually have a tweet coming out from Katie Pavlich at Fox.
	I'm just going to read it verbatim.
	She says, quote, I just spoke to Arizona Governor Doug Ducey's office.
	There are at least 900,000 votes outstanding that haven't been counted.
	About half are Maricopa County.
	With every update, they say it's breaking significantly toward Trump 2 to 1.
	Does not mean a Trump win, but that's still a lot of uncounted votes.
	So we're just putting that out there.
	That is something that Katie Pavich from Fox says happened when in her conversation with the governor's office.
	So people upset about it being called early, still could go to Biden.
	But there are still a lot of votes out there from the data we're seeing.
	And that could be one reason we haven't seen Arizona called by other outlets.
	All right, so we do have a map update.
	So we're going to head on over here.
	And we still have Arizona grayed out, guys, because, of course, as we know, Fox News is the only outlet that has called this.
	And we just don't want to give it to anybody right now when you have a lot of other networks and a lot of other...
	Statisticians out there saying it isn't 100%, especially because it was a light red in 2016.
	But President Trump and Mike Pence were able to take Phoenix, which is right in the center of the state, the metropolitan part of the state, that tends to skew more to the left.
	But they won it before.
	Could they win it again?
	So we're going to walk through the map here.
	This goes to the bigger states.
	Georgia here.
	President Trump jumped out to a big lead.
	New York Times projections getting up into the mid 80% that he would win.
	There was a huge voter turnout in DeKalb County, Fulton County as well, around Atlanta.
	That has gone heavily towards Biden.
	The projections are now looking much better for Joe Biden in Georgia.
	North Carolina, much more of a toss-up.
	President Trump again jumped out to an early lead there.
	Projections were into the 90th percentile from the New York Times that he would win.
	The vote counts, again, have started to even out.
	I think you'd call it a pretty clear 50-50 toss-up in North Carolina.
	Now, we spoke earlier about how Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, we might be waiting for a little bit.
	Their state officials reportedly telling Bloomberg News that, hey, some of our states, and Michigan specifically, you might have to wait until Friday.
	Wow.
	Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, they're saying give us a few days.
	And it's not like it's a national election we've been planning for four years or anything, but I digress.
	So to give the viewers a feel for where we are, because in the next few days, you're going to be hearing a lot about Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
	A breakdown of where we stand right now in Wisconsin, president Trump leads 51.3 to 47.3 with 85% of the vote reporting.
	with 85% of the vote reporting.
	In Michigan, President Trump up 53.8 to Biden's 44.6 with 62% of the vote in.
	And real quick, Wayne County, which is the Detroit mecca, always goes blue.
	Has that reported yet?
	Always goes blue.
	We're still tracking just how much of the results are coming in.
	It does look like we're waiting for a pretty healthy amount of votes from Wayne County, as well as a good number of early votes, absentee votes as well.
	And finally, in Pennsylvania, President Trump is leading 56.6 to 42.2% with 64% in.
	These are the big three states.
	This is what everyone's going to be keeping their eye on.
	Right now, President Trump does hold commanding leads on paper.
	It's just going to come down to what the voter turnout was in some of those more urban areas that many times are late to report and what happened with those early votes and absentee ballots.
	And the president, as he tweeted, thinks that he is doing very well and that it's just not getting covered.
	And he wants all of the votes to be counted.
	And he said he's going to be speaking to the American people soon.
	We'll be sure to have that for you and any other updates, guys.
	Alicia, thank you.
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	Now by my very good friend, one of the first people with whom I began to engage politically, and he was with us last year for some of the most hilarious and drunken parts of our election coverage, Bill Whittle.
	Do you remember those halcyon days of 2016 when we thought everything was so calm and history was over and it was all going to be smooth sailing and dandelions from here to the horizon?
	Well, let me begin by saying hello, Jeremy, and hello, Mike, and hello, Ben.
	2016 felt like a rollercoaster.
	Now it's just nuts.
	I'll tell you how it feels right now out there, you know.
	Right now it feels like I am watching my beloved Florida Gators in a national championship game against Florida State.
	There's four minutes left in the fourth quarter.
	We're up by a safety.
	And they have looked like they fumbled the ball, but they've gone to the instant replay.
	And now the refs are looking in the picture.
	Oh, the feed got cut.
	It's just it's this it's this state of limbo.
	And this is this is the world that they structured.
	There was we all knew everybody knew coming into this that there was no way we're going to know this.
	There was no way that Americans were going to know a result of their election on election day.
	That was the design.
	That's right.
	And then we lawyer it up.
	Well, you know, Dick Morris just said his analysis was Biden has fallen apart, meaning 300,000 votes behind in Michigan, 750,000 behind in Pennsylvania.
	But Dems and the media allies want to create the impression that there's no winner in this race so they can litigate it.
	And it looks like they'll just be reaffirming.
	That's right.
	And that's where we are, right?
	So Trump is up by this enormous, when I last checked, it was like a 15 point lead in Pennsylvania.
	In any other election in American history, that would have been called four hours ago.
	They still haven't called Florida.
	There's one guy wandering around Florida.
	I don't know who I'll vote for.
	They haven't called it.
	And speaking of which, by the way, tonight we can definitely say that we watched the destruction of whatever audience Fox News may have had left, you know?
	I mean, the commentary out there is just Non-stop.
	It's brutal.
	It's brutal.
	And they earned every second of it.
	You know, they earned every second of it.
	So we haven't actually been watching Fox.
	What did they do?
	Well, they waited until the Florida count got to 104% before they called Florida.
	And they called Arizona instantly for Biden.
	I have to tell you, I started feeling good about the election by watching Young Turks and watching Senta have that kind of death march look.
	And by the way, and I think this is really, really important, really important, because we're talking about the culture and things changing on a fundamental level.
	I'm watching the Live Turks feed on the Live Turks channel, and 50 to 1 the comments are pro-Trump.
	50 to 1.
	Wow.
	It's like, MAGA, MAGA, we're going to win, start crying for us.
	And we're seeing this everywhere.
	We're seeing Republicans coming out of this Stockholm Syndrome.
	When you have a Trump rally in Beverly Hills, when you hear a Biden bus is coming to Texas and we're going to meet that, it's like there's this open willingness to fight back.
	For the first time in my memory.
	That has certainly never existed.
	Never.
	That's right.
	And that's a Trump benefit.
	That is a Trump benefit.
	I will say this, Bill, you talk about Fox News falling apart.
	Obviously, we haven't been watching and can't speak to it.
	I think a lot of Americans still have cable so they can have Fox News.
	The average cable bill in America today is almost $271 a month.
	You may not know it, but every time you pay that $271 to the cable company, CNN is getting some of your money, even if you don't watch them, because of carriage fees.
	MSNBC is getting some of your money, even if you don't watch them, because of carriage fees.
	You are paying people who want to destroy you, so that you can get Fox News, who may not want to destroy you, but certainly isn't telling it to you straight.
	They're certainly not giving you the information that you need.
	They're certainly not giving you the kind of firepower that you need to be able to stand up against the woke left.
	Save yourself some money.
	Go become an All Access member of Daily Wire.
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	You've spent $50 now, you can put $220 back into your pocket.
	And don't get me started on what happens if you stop paying for your kids' lousy college education that won't even give them a job but will cost them their soul and cost you your family.
	That's going to cost you more than a Ferrari and your kids are going to be paying for it for the rest of their lives.
	Your family's going to be paying for it for the rest of your life.
	You have to stop funding the people who want to destroy you.
	Dailywire.com is the first place to start.
	BillWhittle.com, a good second place to go.
	But you mentioned that because I put together a kind of a video like, you know, I think it's going to go well, but if it doesn't go well, then what do we do then?
	And I've been thinking about this a lot.
	And the analogy I made was to say that if this were an election to go against Trump, Then the way I think about it is is I look at I look at the country is like the Saturn 5 rocket because I look at everything like it's a yes.
	But seriously, it's like when that that that mission lasted 11,000 minutes of which the first two minutes were the first stage.
	And once those first two minutes in the first stage is gone, it's nothing but dead weight.
	It's just dead weight.
	You cut it loose and it goes crashing back into the ocean.
	And that's how I feel about the country right now.
	I feel like I feel like the working half of the country is carrying all of this dead weight.
	It's carrying all of these all of these horrible.
	Philosophies, all of these horrible schools, all of these horrible universities, all of this corrupt media, all of it.
	I feel like it's time just to cut that loose, and if you could, then what that upper stage would do would be just accelerate like crazy, and you just keep going, you know?
	It's just dead weight.
	I'm almost at the point where it's like, arguing this, since we've been doing this, we've been doing this for a while.
	It's kind of like, it's kind of like somebody's got a Well, it's kind of like grabbing the flag, the pennant at the back of the Titanic and trying to hold it, you know, and tread water and stop that ship from going down.
	And there comes a point when you have to really say to yourself, all right, look, this thing's going to the bottom.
	Now, the only question is, am I going with it or am I going to let it go and let it go?
	And so what you said a minute ago about our own schools and not paying people $100,000 a year to teach them how to hate you is what I mean by letting go.
	I'm not talking about You're not talking about letting go of the country, you're talking about letting go of the institutions that are so corrupted.
	That's right.
	Cut it loose.
	We finally have seen what it is, and by any reasonable election counting, Donald Trump won the election tonight, given the point spread he has in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
	But, if he's re-elected, I would trade the border wall, I would trade new aircraft carriers, I would even trade getting the election system in place if I could get The Department of Justice breaking up Big Tech.
	If I could get that one thing from the second term, that's all I want.
	I'm with you.
	Because we know that the mainstream media is obsolete and dinosaurs.
	But when Big Tech... They're censoring the president right now.
	The Hunter Biden laptop story is the Rubicon.
	That is the suppression of a news story by Big Tech.
	And it may cost us the election if it had been covered the way anything else had been covered.
	This would be a blow up.
	Blow up.
	I mean, I am not up enough on the breakdown of the mail-in ballots and the absentee ballots to say that Trump's lead right now in these swing states holds up because you have 67 percent of the vote in Pennsylvania, 63 percent in Michigan, 78 percent in Wisconsin.
	I'm frankly not enough of a precinct level knower of the vote tally.
	To say that Trump's lead would hold up there because early on, you know, there was talk about how Joe Biden was going to walk away with Florida.
	So it really depends where there was talk about Joe Biden walking away with Texas.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	So, you know, I'll wait to see what happens.
	I'll tell you what does scare me is that Pennsylvania's rules are not clear about what happens when a ballot comes in, not postmarked after the date of the election.
	Right.
	That scares the living hell out of me.
	And I'll tell you what's truly amazing.
	Yeah, not to brag on Florida some more now that I live there, but I will say that Florida's election system is actually excellent.
	We knew the results tonight because they know how to count their damned votes.
	Okay, why is it that Florida, which was a laughingstock in 2000, knows how to count their damn votes, but nobody else knows how to count their damn votes?
	Well, that's actually why, right?
	Because they were a laughingstock in 2000, they've had to do the work, the hard work.
	Okay, but it's not that hard.
	Right?
	I mean, it's obviously doable.
	They had all the votes counted tonight in a battleground state that was expected to be extremely contentious, and they had it all counted, and they were done.
	Right?
	And we know the result in Florida.
	So why is it such a grave ask for the American people to say to Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin, or Michigan— For the same reason—it's been—it's for the same reason that YouTube doesn't Publish clear terms and policies.
	The same reason that Facebook changes their rules continually.
	The same reason that Twitter won't tell you their process for blacklisting someone or for suspending someone.
	And if you get suspended they won't tell you why you were suspended.
	If you get demonetized on YouTube they won't tell you why you were demonetized.
	It's because the ambiguity allows people to be capricious.
	These states don't want to have clear rules because they want to be able to make up the rules when they need to step in and change a result.
	That's the only reason.
	Here's one good piece of news.
	Philip Klein, who's the executive editor over at the Washington Examiner, he just tweeted that Fox says Milwaukee, so they expect to have returns in by 3 a.m., which is the last remaining big batch of Biden votes because that's Dane County, Madison, which is nearly all in.
	Trump right now has about 107,000 vote lead.
	If that holds after the Milwaukee dump, then he takes Wisconsin.
	So it is possible that we know by tomorrow morning.
	And if Trump takes Wisconsin, the chances are that he wins the election.
	Because him taking Wisconsin but not taking Pennsylvania would be a little bit... We could truly wake up with an answer to our question.
	Right.
	It is possible that we wake up in the morning and we have a much clearer answer as to where things stand.
	A much different ending to the night than what we experienced when we were all together four years ago.
	We have a clip.
	Of what happened.
	And Bill Whittle was on the show four years ago.
	This is so much whiskey in.
	I was slumped over in my chair.
	And this is what happened.
	He's the president.
	He's not trying to get it anymore.
	Sorry.
	He's just like.
	Oh, my God.
	This country.
	Oh, man.
	You know what?
	You know what?
	All this stuff.
	All this time I was afraid I was going to go over to Ben's point of view.
	He's come over to mine.
	Why is it so funny?
	Are you the president?
	No, I'm not Trump.
	This is the president.
	Ben, you finally see things my way.
	Ben, you finally see things my way.
	That's the funniest shit that I've ever heard.
	That's like that old story of the Buddha, you know, teaching a sermon, you know.
	All he had to say was President Donald Trump's out there in the last little bit of the other set.
	It would have been President Hillary Clinton and it wasn't.
	Well, that wouldn't have been funny.
	I will say that I do feel deprived that we don't get a result tonight because of something like that.
	Because the fact that we're all together and we can't watch what would happen on MSNBC if they had to announce that Trump had won re-election and it was the full-fledged opening of the arc at the end of Raiders, eyeballs falling out, heads exploding.
	Well, they want everybody asleep.
	They want to do what they're gonna do in the dead of night.
	They want us not to be able to watch it.
	This is how everything nefarious happens.
	There, you know, obviously history is 2020, but there are hills that we should have stood and died on and we didn't.
	And the Al Franken election, where they show up with 200 ballots, all for Franken in a 50-50 election.
	Statistician says the nearest chance of that, nearest whole number is zero.
	But the one we should never, ever, ever have agreed to was the 2000 Florida election.
	The rules are very clear.
	In that state election in 2000 between Gore and Bush, you have a mechanical count of the vote.
	Bush won that count.
	If it's within a certain margin of error, you can do another mechanical count of the vote, and Bush won that count too, and that should have been the end of it, and the fact that we let that thing go on for weeks and months, and they're holding up the chads, and they're doing this whole thing, that is where we should have said, A vote is not an opinion.
	It is an action that you have to take.
	It's not a difficult action, but if you don't actually take this action in the correct order and put it in the right box and mark the right things, then that's not our fault to try and figure out what you really wanted to say.
	And we didn't.
	We just let it go on and on and on.
	And from that moment forward is when the left started saying that George Bush's presidency was illegitimate.
	They did the same thing with Trump and they're going to do it now.
	Well, this is the George Soros philosophy, basically.
	It's not who votes, it's who counts the votes.
	He's been placing the attorney generals, this guy... He tried it with Brexit?
	Yeah.
	He tried to be lost with Brexit even the second time.
	It is amazing that he figured out that it doesn't have to do with reality, it has to do with the guys who announce reality, and he's funded them.
	He's funded the DAs who are allowing all these riots to take place, almost all of them are George Soros I can't believe that you're- 34 billion with a B. Yeah.
	34 billion with a B. I can't believe Drew's spouting these anti-Semitic- I know.
	Yeah, I don't know, that's- Too much, too much.
	Benjamin.
	No, I just I will say that if Trump does end up losing narrowly, it is entirely due to the media.
	One hundred percent.
	Yes.
	So the election is already pre-stolen, right?
	When when the Hunter Biden laptop story is not only not covered, but but you cannot you cannot share the link with a friend, then that is a stolen election.
	And that's also a pretty good definition of a monopoly, because if I decided to call you and say, hey, you know, I think Trump's going to break me.
	And I find out that the telephone company has cut off my service because they don't like my opinion that I'm sharing with you.
	Then it's time to do something about about that monopolies.
	So Bill, you'll remember, I can't remember the name of the Newsweek editor, who I believe in 2008... Evan Thomas.
	Evan Thomas, thank you.
	Was it 2008?
	He said no, it was 2004.
	He said no, it was it was 2004, 2004.
	2004.
	He said in 2004 that that media bias was probably a 15 point swing.
	And I did a I did a video about that a few years later.
	I took the electoral map of the United States, which would have been the Obama election, 2008, and I took 15 points and just swung them from one column to the other, just what the news media bias put into the map.
	And the Democrats carried D.C., and they carried Hawaii, and then McCain wins 511 to 9.
	511 to 9.
	So if he was saying in 2004, when the media still had the veneer of objectivity, that the media was worth a 15-point swing in favor of the Democrats, what must it be now when they literally will just stop your ability to say things?
	But theoretically, it could be less because there is this movement against, obviously, what we're seeing is a movement of people disbelieving what the media is telling them.
	I mean, how much can you lie before people start to say, well, you're lying.
	You do also have to wonder, you know, you were asking what the purpose of some of the polls are before.
	And I don't think that everybody is nefariously oriented in order to get Democrats elected.
	But if you are going to nefariously orient the polls in order to depress Republican turnout, what you would do is put out a bunch of push polls suggesting that Joe Biden was up 17 points in Wisconsin.
	The week before the election.
	I don't think the Chinese created COVID-19 in a lab, but if they were going to, a disease that primarily kills people in the age demographic who vote for Trump, and they give everyone the opportunity to shut down the American economy wouldn't be a bad start.
	I guess my thought on the pollsters, it's not that they have to be actively serious, it's that they're all so in the same bubble.
	That they all think so exactly the same, that they all spend so much of their effort reinforcing one another, that I don't think that they would even subject their own beliefs or their own polling processes to the kind of scrutiny that would be necessary to make them accurate or fair.
	So here's a question for you, Jeremy.
	What do the 2020 election, the COVID-19 pandemic, and global warming have in common?
	All three of them have large majorities of people who believe the computer models over what they see with their own eyes.
	All three of them are the result of computer modeling and so is the projections and so are the polls.
	There are numbers of people out there who, if you tell them this number comes out of a computer, then they believe it.
	And when they say they follow the science, when you hear Democrats saying, oh, we're the party that follows the science, you're not the party that follows the science, you're the party that follows the scientist.
	You're the party that follows the expert and the authority, but you're not the party that's following the data.
	And this reminds me of the classic joke about liberal intellectuals, which is, they say, well, yeah, sure, it works in practice, but will it work in theory?
	Does it work in theory?
	It's absolutely true and a great point that they famously with climate change, if their model says that on November 3rd, 2020, the temperature in Los Angeles will be 93 degrees.
	And today is November 3rd, 2020.
	And they're in Los Angeles, and it's 87 degrees.
	They will not update their model.
	Reality is wrong.
	These are guys that sit in a map room, they draw a map, and they've got the coastline and the rivers, and they go up to the bridge, and they look out the window, and a coastline is predicted there, and they see all of these cliffs, and they're predicting a river basin, and they look at the coastline, and they look at their map and say that the coastline must be wrong.
	Right?
	And it's just that simple.
	And that is a kind of a mental illness.
	But it's real.
	And they really are the kind of people who say, well, if there's a disagreement between the atmosphere and the data, then the atmosphere is wrong.
	If there's a disagreement between the poll numbers and the actual voting, then there's obviously actual voters.
	This is actually the hallmark of the left, is that no matter what fails, the underlying premise is still correct.
	Right.
	And so this is why I do think that the polling, it's not that it's nefarious.
	I think there's probably some nefarious things that happen.
	It's not that I'm saying that it's all nefarious per se.
	It's that I'm saying that their system is so flawed and no matter how many times they fail, they have no incentive to correct it.
	Because to correct it would be to acknowledge that what they're wrong about is fundamental and not just Around the fringes, not just, it's not something that can be tweaked.
	A couple of quick pieces of news.
	One, the White House press pool is going to be assembling in the East Room, so we should probably hear from the President shortly.
	Also, the Montana Senate race has been announced for Steve Daines.
	So Republicans will, in nearly all probability, retain the Senate.
	Because with Daines winning in Montana, you expect both Georgia races to go to the Republicans.
	You expect that I mean, honestly, like, this is the first time I've ever rooted for Susan Collins, but Susan Collins retains her seat in Maine, and that is a major comeback, because she was down 5 to 7 points, supposedly.
	Speaking of Georgia, let's not forget this is the second time we've vanquished that utter liberal contrivance, John Ossoff.
	Remember, they made a big deal out of him, they poured all the money... The amount of money they poured into the Senate, I mean, the amount of money that the Lincoln Project blew, Those grifters, I hope they enjoy their yacht, because they're not going to get a lot of repeat business after this one.
	They're actually in the little dinghy that Mike Bloomberg tows behind his big yacht.
	Between Mike Bloomberg dumping $100 million into Florida to get his ass kicked, and them dumping $100 million into South Carolina so that Lindsey Graham of all people could kick their ass, and then Mitch McConnell beating Amy McGrath by 1 million points after they tossed $90 million into that race.
	They just set their money on fire.
	In the Senate.
	It is pretty impressive.
	Georgia is still up for grabs, apparently.
	Yeah, that's a little distressing.
	It's a little too close for comfort there, because the late polling numbers are still coming in, particularly from Atlanta and some of the metro regions.
	And so, if Trump were to lose Georgia, the election's over, essentially.
	I mean, if he loses Georgia, there's pretty much no way he can come back from losing Georgia and Arizona, if he were to lose both of those.
	Well, Arizona is still in play.
	It is.
	Everything has to break for Trump to win Arizona.
	The only network that is called Arizona remains Fox, I believe.
	I don't think anybody else is actually called Arizona at this point.
	But he's up 65% in the votes that are still, that are just now coming in.
	Right, the question is how many votes there are and does it retain it.
	I think he has to win 67% of all outstanding votes and it has to be over 900,000 of them.
	So I believe there are over 900,000 of them.
	The question is whether it comes in at 61% or at 67%.
	So it's a lot too close to call in Arizona, which goes to show that I mean, I like Martha McSally as a person, but you have to have a special kind of skill to lose both sides in the course of three to four years.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I want to take a few questions from our dailywire.com members.
	I keep saying they're the reason that the show has been free all night tonight, and that's the truth.
	We typically reserve this kind of content, or at least large chunks of it, for our dailywire.com members, but tonight we felt that They're the kind of community we've built.
	They would want everyone to be able to participate in the show.
	We're grateful to them.
	So let's hear a few questions from them.
	Alicia.
	Yeah, and real quick.
	And real quick, guys, I just want to let you know that we're hearing from multiple White House press pool reporters that the president could be speaking any minute, probably in the next 10 minutes.
	So we'll try to get to as many member questions as possible.
	And we will definitely be going to the White House to hear from President Trump because he has said that he's going to make a big announcement and that he thinks that he is winning bigly.
	We shall see about that.
	So this question is for Andrew Klavan.
	How much voter fraud do you expect?
	How much voter fraud do I expect?
	Voter fraud always comes in less than we fear it will.
	But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
	And in Pennsylvania, I'm genuinely worried.
	I think that they have genuinely put forward an idea.
	You know, when the Attorney General tweets that when the votes are counted, Biden will have won, that's suspect.
	And I think that Knowles is right, that that gives Trump a way forward in the courts.
	That's a good reason to sue.
	But I'm not expecting the kind of I'm not personally expecting the kind of voter fraud that can turn an actual victory into a defeat, except in Pennsylvania.
	I think Pennsylvania has shown signs of being utterly corrupt.
	You know, it's worth pointing out in Pennsylvania, a local news affiliate there did an experiment early on with the mail-in ballots, and they set up a dummy mailbox and they sent in the mail-in ballots.
	And they received two birthday cards to the mailbox, so obviously some wires got crossed there.
	But three of the hundred ballots went missing.
	Three percent.
	More than enough to swing an election.
	That's just one news affiliate, but on top of all of the evidence, and it's pretty significant evidence, of fraud and corruption there, that's a lot to be worried about.
	There are going to be a lot of lawsuits, by the way, in Pennsylvania.
	And there should be.
	It's just going to be crazy, because essentially the governor of Pennsylvania decided, unilaterally, to change the rules.
	And the status quo ante, which is that they were all supposed to start processing the mail-in ballots at 7 a.m.
	on Tuesday morning, but eight counties said they were going to wait until tomorrow morning to start processing all of these ballots.
	And again, it is unclear by Pennsylvania process whether all of these things have to be postmarked or not.
	If they don't have to be postmarked, you literally have no way of knowing that the ballots were legally cast before the election or if they were cast After the election, it's going to end up back at the Supreme Court.
	And frankly, John Roberts deserves it.
	He deserves every single bit of it.
	Because that jerk, John Roberts, he's the one who turned down this case a week ago, thinking that he could avoid all responsibility for ever having to rule on it if Donald Trump would just lose heavily, like the polls were saying.
	And now it'll end up back at the Supreme Court and he's going to have to rule on it.
	And then we'll get the specter of the legitimacy of the Supreme Court being called into question because John Roberts is a doofus.
	It damn well will be if he rules the wrong way.
	It will be called into question by me and by conservatives.
	Why is the court always so afraid of the left calling their legitimacy into question?
	How about we call their legitimacy into question when they make preposterous rulings?
	Because we won't change the court.
	They will.
	Right.
	You know, you remember only a few weeks ago when the biggest scandal in the country was that Donald Trump was going to destroy the post office so that people could vote?
	Yeah.
	One of the things that I haven't heard enough people talk about is that when you use mail-in ballots, you turn the federal government, you give the federal government a role.
	In state elections, because we don't, you know, people like to say, oh, Donald Trump lost the popular vote in 2016.
	There is no popular vote.
	There's no such thing as a national popular vote for president because we don't have a national election.
	If you're going to let sort of pure democracy add up everybody in the country, divide it by two and see who got the most votes, if that's how you wanted to come up with your president, you'd have to have a national standard for elections.
	But we have unbelievable diversity of standards in all of these different states because we have 50 unique Uh, unique elections.
	When you bring the post office in, you alter that.
	And you give the incumbent president, I'm not saying Trump did this, I'm actually speaking to the concern of the left, you give the incumbent president, who is the head of the post office, Right.
	That's an executive agency, he's the chief executive of the country, you give him power to influence the, one, in other words, what I'm saying is that one of the reasons that America has resisted tyranny is because our government doesn't do much, it's set up not to do much, because of all these things we call checks and balances.
	And there is this, I don't think it was even intended.
	But there's this coincidental protection, which is that the chief executive doesn't have any real power over the thing that elects him, which is 50 distinct presidential elections around the country.
	So what they've done by going to this mail-in ballot system is they've actually made it possible.
	The left always, it's always projection with the left, they're saying, oh Trump's, they're realizing that this is possible.
	So they're preemptively accusing this guy of doing it.
	This guy obviously isn't doing it.
	The next guy will.
	We will see that the president will use the post office to preserve his own power now that they've made the post office the number one mechanism for voting in the country.
	Quick note here, just on a slightly separate topic.
	President Trump gets a lot of credit.
	And rightly so, for getting out crowds and sizes that people haven't seen and for the high levels of voter enthusiasm.
	We need a slow clap for Mitch McConnell, because that dude is just ice.
	I mean, serious.
	He is.
	Cocaine Mitch.
	He brings it.
	For a capitalist establishment who we were all ripping on back during the Tea Party days, and I think with some good reason, the fact is that Mitch McConnell is almost solely responsible for ramming through hundreds of good judges, and not only that, He's going to retain his majority leadership in the Senate tonight after all of this, and there were a bunch of races that were knife's edge, and he deployed the resources properly.
	That's right.
	He's going to retain control of the Senate.
	And listen, it's worth saying, if Donald Trump loses the presidency and Mitch McConnell retains the Senate, then truly Mitch McConnell will have prevented the left-wing revolution.
	And by the way, you can add Lindsey Graham to that.
	That's right.
	Because you have Lindsey Graham, point one, point one point oh, and two point oh, and both of them.
	were radicalized for freedom by the Kavanaugh hearings.
	They both saw what was going on and were so outright disgusted by it that it kind of blew that kind of outer shell of, you know, kind of rhino crust away.
	And now all of a sudden, okay, so you really are bad people, the gentleman from the great state of whatever.
	You really are an actual tyrant, aren't you?
	And a character assassin.
	And thank God for both of them.
	Also, by the way, Republicans did pick up governorships tonight.
	So Republicans ended up winning a few more governorships, which is really, really important.
	State legislatures did not go the wrong way, widely speaking, which is a very good thing.
	All of that is deeply important considering redistricting is coming in 2020.
	That's right.
	If that did not happen, that would be a big, big, big problem.
	Bad time to lose.
	Alicia, we have time for another question from a dailywire.com member.
	Absolutely.
	And once again, if the president comes in, we'll be sure to go with it.
	Ben, of course, last week you did a show about the resume or maybe lack of resume of Joe Biden and how he's been in politics for longer than you and I have been alive.
	So a member wants to know from you, what do you think the first 100 days of a Biden presidency would look like?
	At this point, not much.
	I mean, I think that if the Republicans maintain the Senate majority, it's going to be very difficult to think of what a Biden presidency looks like in terms of major ambitions.
	He was planning, you know, immigration reform.
	He was planning Green New Deal.
	He was planning a giant COVID package.
	I think he proposes a giant COVID package.
	I don't think Mitch McConnell gives it to him.
	I think McConnell gives him pretty much what McConnell wants to give him.
	I think that's pretty much it.
	I think on immigration, he's not going to present a giant amnesty package.
	I think his agenda is basically stopped cold in its tracks.
	What you will see is a resurgence of the regulatory state.
	Right.
	One problem with the way that Trump has approached government, and listen, he didn't create this, Obama really created it, that when you rule by executive fiat, when you do everything through executive action, the next executive can just undo all of it.
	So a lot of the great victories of the Trump administration have been through EOs, and There will be real consequences to rolling those back.
	A lot of the reason that the economy has surged pre-COVID under, or pre-lockdowns.
	I don't like to blame COVID.
	COVID didn't shut down the economy.
	People shut down the economy before the COVID shutdowns.
	The economy was surging in part because of things that President Trump and his administration were doing at the executive level.
	Things that you don't hear about.
	Cutting regulation, pulling back organizations like the EPA, getting out of the way of business.
	I think you'll see Biden try to declare a national mask mandate by executive order.
	I think that you will see Joe Biden try to re-engage with Iran and the Palestinian Authority.
	But I think it's going to be not much of anything.
	And the good news about that is that I think that's going to radicalize the Democrats even further.
	That's the genius of the American system, right?
	You need the presidency if you're going to do real mischief, right?
	If you're really going to mess things up, you got to have all three.
	And what we come out of this with tonight is exactly like you said.
	It's like there is a circuit breaker in there now.
	Yeah.
	And and that keeps us from the worst of the worst.
	I would like to throw some pessimism on this, though, because I think we're being too nice.
	Kind of to your point, Jeremy, though I will defend the executive orders, but it's the same problem that you're recognizing, which is that we are essentially governed by the executive agencies, by the administrative state.
	And so my defense of executive orders is when it's the administrative agencies that are running the country, The only way to reign them in is through the executive orders, which then get overturned by the next time there's some other guy.
	So the problem is in that system, and there's no way really around that, because even when Congress passes laws, the laws mostly just empower the agencies to go do whatever they're going to do.
	Remember when Elon Musk said he's going to open that Tesla factory despite what the California Board of Health said, and he did it?
	Yeah.
	And you remember how they didn't arrest him?
	I'm convinced that the reason they didn't arrest him was because Musk knew, and they knew, that they didn't have the legal authority to arrest him.
	That the whole thing is essentially a kind of an intimidation game.
	And he called their bluff.
	And nothing happened to him.
	He's going to Texas is what's happening.
	But they didn't.
	It was such a high-profile case that I think if they had the legal authority to shut the place down, they would have.
	But they didn't.
	And that's just an opinion.
	He can afford to fight them, too.
	Yeah.
	He can afford the legal... Yeah, by the way, the current House count is R plus 5 in the House.
	Because Republicans picked up five seats in the House, which nobody really saw coming.
	There were a bunch of flippable seats, basically anything that was in flippable distance, Republicans flipped.
	I want to make a quick prediction about President Trump's speech.
	I predict that President Trump will have achieved a flag-density background unlike anything...
	You'll be swimming.
	Donald Trump always dives into them, right?
	He's going to dive, he's going to swim around the flags.
	But you know, I remember you talking about, quite rightly, how Republicans never understood the value of a background.
	Yes.
	Trump does not have that problem.
	No, no, no.
	He understands TV, right?
	We complained for years about his... That's right.
	...about Republican inability to understand.
	It's social proof.
	If people are behind you smiling and applauding, no matter how stupid or bad the idea is or how good it is, If you can see people nodding and agreeing, you are inclined to want to agree with them.
	And if not everybody is a white male, if some of them are black, some of them are women, you know, he got all that.
	You talked about this a million times before Trump did it.
	Watch for the outrage to break out because Joe Biden already declared he thinks that he's going to win.
	He says, I think I'm going to win and let's just let all the votes be counted.
	And so Trump is going to come out and say precisely the same thing, but he's going to add an implication that voter fraud might be in play and they're going to lose their damned mind.
	What Biden said was he said it's not over until all the votes are counted.
	And there's a big difference there.
	Well, that's true.
	Because because technically speaking, it's over when the polls close.
	But what Biden was setting up was he's setting up, no, no, it's not over until every vote is counted, which means that if we find a handful of votes and we got to count those two and it's just going to be a bloody mess this It is going to be a bloody mess this week, unless we see bigger numbers in states like Wisconsin than we have anticipated.
	It is possible you could wake up tomorrow, and this is really the problem.
	And Bill, I've actually heard you talk about this for years.
	Republicans don't have to win.
	They have to win beyond the margin of cheating.
	That's right.
	You actually have to get one, two, three points ahead.
	And it's not looking real good for that right now.
	That's right.
	Especially in Pennsylvania, which is going to be the most important state, I think.
	Trouble is, what is he, 15% out at this point?
	Yeah, he's up about 700,000 votes in Pennsylvania right now.
	But we're waiting for every major metro area in Pennsylvania to come in.
	So that's why everybody is not calling it yet.
	Same thing in Michigan.
	He's up about 300,000 votes in Michigan right now, but they're still waiting on a bunch of votes.
	In Wisconsin, he is up currently about 112,000 votes.
	But again, they're waiting for Milwaukee to come in.
	So if Milwaukee comes in and it ain't that heavy or Madison comes in and I think they're still waiting on a little bit of Madison to come in, if he wins Wisconsin, then of course everything shifts again.
	So it's a real seesaw out there really because of Arizona.
	And so Mark Levin, I think rightly, was ripping on Cindy McCain saying like you're going like your personal animus.
	Between the McCain family and the Trump family.
	Well, that's always been the McCain family.
	Listen, at a certain point, you do have to say to Trump that the man was cutting off his nose to spite his face in Arizona.
	When this whole thing started, there were two Republican senators in Arizona and a Republican governor.
	And by this point, there are two Democratic senators in Arizona and a Republican governor in Doug Ducey.
	He won in 2016 in the state.
	He's presumably going to lose in Arizona in the state.
	I understand that Trump It's one of the consequences of Donald Trump.
	It'll be a great irony if Donald Trump loses because of his treatment of John McCain.
	Because he crapped on John McCain.
	One of the worst things that Donald Trump did was his treatment of John McCain.
	That doesn't justify what John McCain or the McCain family has done subsequently.
	John McCain essentially upheld Obamacare despite Donald Trump.
	Single-handedly.
	Like Caesar, out on the floor.
	You can be angry with John McCain for his behavior.
	That doesn't change that you should also be angry with Donald Trump.
	I'm sorry, would you be mad at John McCain for his behavior?
	You should also be mad at Donald Trump.
	You can't treat someone like that and then expect them to support you.
	For four years I've been going on and saying, you know, you shouldn't be rude to people.
	And people yell at me and say, oh, well, Donald Trump has to be rude.
	I think, like, it's just not good politics.
	But it's what he costs.
	That's what he costs.
	That's what Donald Trump costs.
	To have a guy who's got that kind of skin and that... He's going to come out in a few seconds and he's going to reframe the narrative.
	From Joe Biden saying, if we keep counting votes, we think we're winning.
	Donald Trump's going to come out and say, no, they're stealing this election.
	And he's going to reframe the narrative.
	And no one else that I've ever seen on the Republican side has that kind of... It's a good, it's a good point.
	It is the tragic fact of Donald Trump that all his strengths are also weaknesses and all his weaknesses... Well, it's the sad tragedy of humans.
	Yeah, but he kind of blows it up to Trumpian levels.
	It's a very tragic flaw.
	It turns out that his thin-skinned nature with regard to John McCain and his constant ripping on him is what caused him the election.
	I agree, obviously.
	I mean, a lot of the things that we rip on are some of the things that allow him to blow off conventionalism and do incredible things, for sure.
	But at least in the interest of self-interest, you would think that at a certain point he'd be like, just lay it off, dude.
	Just lay it off.
	The classic historical example is people complaining to Lincoln that Grant was a drinker.
	And Lincoln says, I can't spare this man.
	He fights.
	I don't care if he's a drinker.
	I do care if he's a drinker.
	As a matter of fact, I care a great deal that he's a drinker.
	And it's a real problem.
	But he's irreplaceable.
	And I'll take the drinking if that's what Ulysses Grant cost me to win the war.
	Right.
	But Donald Trump has to win the war.
	Correct.
	Unless he's a skrank and gets drunk off his ass and loses Vicksburg, it's a different story.
	That's a different story.
	That's exactly right.
	And you know, he would not be Donald Trump if he weren't like this.
	Everything good, we get out of it.
	We get the bad stuff, too.
	So we're moments away from hearing from the President, from the White House.
	I'm hoping, honestly, I do hope that he uses a little bit of measured language about stealing the election.
	I hope he pulls a Charles II and disbands the Congress.
	At this point, I want to win.
	If he doesn't, he needs to have a staff.
	He needs Gandalf staff is what he needs.
	He needs to just put Gandalf staff down like that and have the top of it start glowing and say, you shall not count votes past the end of election day.
	That was my favorite Babylon B story was after he got COVID and they said, Trump the orange returns as Trump the white.
	You guys probably didn't catch it, but earlier tonight the Babylon Bee tweeted out saying election results may take weeks to count due to the Common Core new math.
	They really are national treasures.
	They are great.
	They're just getting better and better.
	Yeah, they're actually funny.
	I'm like the Daily Show that put out a meme of Death Star blowing up Florida.
	I'm old enough to remember when Republicans putting that kind of stuff out were considered violence and bad.
	I mean, I'm old enough to remember because I'm more than 20 seconds old.
	That's right.
	If someone were murdered in Florida, if the Republicans had put that out, and someone were to be murdered in Florida tomorrow, for any reason, I mean, like, a bank robbery happens and there are no safety people protesting.
	Absolutely.
	Yes, that's true.
	So, like, the ultimate good news is is that we're still in a 50-50 election with that kind of headwind, right?
	That's right.
	With the ability to say that anything that Donald Trump does and have front page of the New York Times and 15 days of coverage on CNN and then anything that Biden does is buried.
	There's got to be a 40-point headwind that we're facing with big media and big tech.
	I'll bet it's 40 points and the country's still here.
	That's right.
	And that goes to show you how fundamentally sound this country is, that you can take this kind of a bias and still even be in the game.
	Yeah, but it shouldn't be there.
	You know, it's like we shouldn't just bow our heads and say, this is the way it is.
	You know, when we talk about the replacement media, that's it.
	We've got to replace them.
	We've got to replace them.
	Yeah, we're not going to start winning by losing.
	That's right.
	And one of the problems that conservatives face is that we abandon the culture entirely for the last 40 years.
	And then we're shocked that the culture doesn't look like us anymore.
	Right.
	I thought we were a Christian nation.
	Yeah, we were.
	And then all the Christians decided not to be part of the nation.
	I thought we were a conservative nation.
	Yeah, you suck.
	I thought we loved America.
	I thought we taught our kids to love America.
	No, we haven't done that in a generation.
	Right.
	And you just gave up on it.
	And you call it fascism if we do.
	Yeah.
	People literally call it fascism.
	If Trump says we're going to teach people about the founding of the country, and we're going to do so in a patriotic way, and we're going to hand out constitutions, then, ah, it's fascism.
	It's just like Nazi Germany.
	The Pledge of Allegiance.
	If only there were some kind of historical series about, like, Great America.
	Just didn't know about it.
	You know, we should make that.
	That would be a good idea.
	Gotta do that with The Daily Wire.
	I think I could probably give those scripts for you by morning.
	And if you'd like to access those, you can head over to dailywire.com right now and you should subscribe.
	25% off with code election.
	If you thought I was going to miss the chance on that once more, wrong you were.
	We're going to vamp on this until Trump comes up.
	My father taught me to never pass up a cheap shot.
	And Ben's father taught him to never pass up a promo code.
	Hence our relative levels of success.
	One of us is significantly wealthier than the other.
	That's the way that works right now.
	That's where the divide happened.
	Yeah.
	So which flag is Trump hiding behind?
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's like, where's Waldo with flags?
	They're gonna part like the beginning of a movie premiere.
	And he's just gonna walk out in the spotlight.
	It's gonna be pitch black.
	And then he's gonna sing Play it again, Sam.
	It's late in the evening, people, if you hadn't realized.
	We definitely started to fade about four hours ago.
	We're actually close to the point where Wisconsin results become not all that far off, right?
	It's supposed to happen at 3 a.m.
	Eastern.
	It is now 2.20 p.m.
	Eastern time.
	Also, it's worth pointing out, just for framing the president, you know, it is 2.17 there right now.
	He's a 74-year-old man who somehow has a shocking amount of energy.
	But Joe Biden has been asleep for hours at this point.
	And Donald Trump is going to give a speech at 2.30 in the morning.
	That's right.
	Donald Trump, who was hospitalized with COVID-19 something like 45 years ago, is about to walk out on a stage at almost 3 o'clock in the morning.
	And listen, one thing about the president, we've had one truly punctual president in my lifetime, and that's George W. Bush.
	George W. Bush would never, he would consider it beneath his dignity as a man.
	Yeah.
	to let us sit here and look at a bunch of flags when he said that he was going to be on TV.
	No other president has been that way.
	Certainly not Barack Obama.
	Definitely not Donald Trump.
	Donald Trump will milk a moment.
	And if he thinks that there's any chance he's going to be able to walk out and say that he won Wisconsin, he'll keep us staring at these flags for the next 42 minutes.
	All you need to know about that is when Donald Trump goes out and does a rally, and I've covered a lot of these rallies, you'll hear the Lee Greenwood start playing and then he walks out.
	He, every single second of that song, he'll dance a little, he'll point, he'll walk up to the podium, he'll pull back from the podium.
	It's all he wants every second.
	I think we're getting that tonight.
	Georgia is incredibly tight.
	Right now, if Fulton and DeKalb County come in at the same rate they have, and this is according to Jonathan Allen, and this is from NBC News, And the percentage is accurate.
	Biden with a net 126,000 votes.
	The entire margin right now is 118,000 votes.
	Wow.
	So it is extremely tight in Georgia.
	That's probably the most troubling news on the table right now.
	Yeah, for sure.
	I agree.
	You know, whatever happens tomorrow morning, well, you guys are going to have to get up and do your shows, but I will not because, well, I am the guide king.
	People need to understand that there is still going to be enormous amounts of breaking news tomorrow that needs to be covered.
	And The Daily Wire is going to be your place to get that coverage.
	We keep talking about being the replacement media.
	We keep talking about being your source for information.
	We've announced the Candace Owens edition moving to Nashville with us.
	We've announced the PragerU library.
	Announced the new morning show.
	Announced the investigative journalists.
	Announced our foray into fiction.
	All of that is stuff that will happen over the next three to four months.
	But right now, as we speak, this is still a better place for you to get information than any existing media sources.
	They're going to wake up tomorrow morning and start lying to you.
	Come over to Daily Wire.
	We'll tell you the truth to the best of our ability, and we'll at least tell you our biases so that you have a filter by which to weigh the things that we tell you.
	We're not trying to pull one over on you.
	We tell you exactly who we are, what we think, And how we assess these situations.
	You'll want to tune in first thing in the morning.
	Michael, what time do you go live?
	So it just occurred to me I might not be going to sleep tonight because I'm live for the website at 6 30 a.m.
	Pacific and then...
	That goes live for everybody else a little later.
	So if you're a Daily Wire member, you can watch that live on the website.
	That is 6.30 a.m., which means I will, whatever bags you see under my eyes now, they're going to be much deeper later.
	But the reason probably I won't be able to go to sleep is we are going to be getting breaking news all night long.
	We'll probably still be getting breaking news as my show starts tomorrow.
	So if anything, I'm thinking of my show tomorrow as an extension of this live stream, because you're going to get extraordinarily consequential information coming in.
	It might not even all be in by the end of the show.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And that'll be the same for all of the guys tomorrow morning.
	There'll be a lot of news.
	We're going to be bringing it all to you, to the best of our ability.
	I won't be, as I said, I will be sleeping and just assuming that these guys are doing a good job.
	And then I'll wake up periodically to make sure that the coffers are full and that I still have power, because these are the only things that matter.
	To me.
	I'm the grifter in the group.
	You'll fluff your pillow of money on your bed.
	Here we see the Trump family walking into the briefing room.
	Like literally all of them.
	Yeah, every Trump.
	Where's Barron?
	There's Lonnie Trump, the lesser known Trump son.
	Kind of shiftless, Lonnie.
	You don't hear much about him.
	No, no, no.
	Hey, we opened a Motel 8 for Lonnie in Tarasota.
	He's only worth $900,000, the black sheep.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	States Donald J. Trump. .
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Please sit.
	Well, thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much, police said.
	Thank you.
	This is without question the latest news conference I've ever had.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate it very much.
	And I want to thank the American people for their tremendous support.
	Millions and millions of people voted for us tonight.
	And a very sad group of people is trying to disenfranchise that group of people.
	And we won't stand for it.
	We will not stand for it.
	I want to thank the First Lady, my entire family, and Vice President Pence, Mrs. Pence, for being with us all through this.
	And we were getting ready for a big celebration.
	We were winning everything, and all of a sudden, it was just called off.
	The results tonight have been phenomenal, and we are getting ready.
	I mean, literally, we were just all set to get outside and just celebrate something that was so beautiful, so good, such a vote, such a success.
	The citizens of this country have come out in record numbers.
	This is a record.
	There's never been anything like it to support our incredible movement.
	We won states that we weren't expected to win.
	Florida, we didn't win it.
	We won it by a lot.
	We won the great state of Ohio.
	We won Texas.
	We won Texas by 700,000 votes, and they don't even include it in the tabulations.
	It's also clear that we have won Georgia.
	We're up by 2.5 percent or 117,000 votes with only 7 percent left.
	They're never going to catch us.
	They can't catch us.
	We're up by 2.5 percent or 117,000 votes with only 7 percent left.
	They're never going to catch us.
	They can't catch us.
	Likewise, we've clearly won North Carolina.
	We're up 1.4 percent or 77,000 votes with only approximately 5 percent left.
	They can't catch us.
	We also, if you look and you see, Arizona, we have a lot of life in that.
	And somebody said, Somebody declared that it was a victory for us, and maybe it will be.
	I mean, that's possible.
	But certainly there were a lot of votes out there that we could get because we're now just coming into what they call Trump territory.
	I don't know what you call it, but these were friendly Trump voters, and that could be overturned.
	The gentleman that called it, I watched tonight.
	He said, well, we think it's fairly unlikely that he could catch.
	Well, fairly unlikely.
	And we don't even need it.
	We don't need that.
	That was just a state that if we would have gotten it, it would have been nice.
	Arizona.
	But there's a possibility, maybe even a good possibility.
	In fact, since I saw that originally, it's been changed, and the numbers have substantially come down just in a small amount of votes.
	So we want that, obviously, to stay in play.
	But most importantly, we're winning Pennsylvania by a tremendous amount of votes.
	Yeah.
	We're up 600.
	Think of this.
	We're up 690,000 votes in Pennsylvania.
	690,000.
	These aren't even close.
	It's not like, oh, it's close.
	With 64% of the vote in, it's going to be almost impossible to catch.
	And we're coming into good Pennsylvania areas where they happen to like your president.
	So we'll probably expand that.
	We're winning Michigan.
	I'll tell you, I looked at the numbers.
	I said, Whoa, I looked, I said, Wow, that's a lot.
	By almost 300,000 votes.
	And 65% of the vote is in.
	And we're winning Wisconsin.
	So we're winning.
	We don't need all of them.
	We need, because when you add Texas in, which wasn't added, I spoke with the really wonderful governor of Texas just a little while ago.
	Greg Abbott, he said, congratulations.
	He called me to congratulate me on winning Texas.
	I mean, we won Texas.
	I don't think they finished quite the tabulation, but there's no way.
	And it was almost complete, but he congratulated me.
	Then he said, by the way, what's going on?
	I've never seen anything like this.
	Can I tell you what?
	Nobody has.
	So we won by 107,000 votes with 81% of the vote.
	That's Michigan.
	So when you take those three states in particular, And you take all of the others.
	I mean, we have so many.
	We had such a big night.
	You just take a look at all of these states that we've won tonight.
	And then you take a look at the kind of margins that we've won them by.
	And all of a sudden, it's not like we're up 12 votes and we have 60% left.
	We won states.
	And all of a sudden, I said, what happened to the election?
	It's off.
	And we have all these announcers saying, What happened?
	And then they said, oh, because you know what happened?
	They knew they couldn't win.
	So they said, let's go to court.
	And did I predict this, Newt?
	Did I say this?
	I've been saying this from the day I heard they were going to send out tens of millions of ballots.
	I said exactly because either they were going to win or if they didn't win, they'll take us to court.
	So Florida was a tremendous victory.
	377,000.
	Texas, as we said.
	Ohio.
	Think of this.
	Ohio, a tremendous state, a big state.
	I love Ohio.
	We won by 8.1 percent.
	Four hundred and sixty-one percent.
	Think of it.
	Almost 500,000 votes.
	North Carolina, big victory with North Carolina.
	And so we won there.
	We lead by 76,000 votes with almost nothing left.
	And all of a sudden, everything just stopped.
	This is a fraud on the American public.
	This is an embarrassment to our country.
	We were getting ready to win this election.
	Frankly, we did win this election.
	We did win this election.
	So our goal now is to ensure the integrity for the good of this nation.
	This is a very big moment.
	This is a major fraud in our nation.
	We want the law to be used in a proper manner.
	So we'll be going to the U.S.
	Supreme Court.
	We want all voting to stop.
	We don't want them to find any ballots at 4 o'clock in the morning and add them to the list.
	Okay?
	It's a very sad moment.
	To me, this is a very sad moment.
	And we will win this.
	And as far as I'm concerned, we already have won it.
	So I just want to thank you.
	And I want to thank all of our support.
	I want to thank all of the people that worked with us.
	And Mr. Vice President, say a few words, please.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	I want to join you in thanking more than 60 million Americans who have already cast their vote for four more years for President Donald Trump in the White House.
	And while the votes continue to be counted, we're going to remain vigilant, as the President said.
	The right to vote has been at the center of our democracy since the founding of this nation, and we're going to protect the integrity of the vote.
	But I really believe with all of my heart, with the extraordinary margins, Mr. President, that you've inspired in the states that you just described, and the way that you launched this movement across the country to make America great again.
	I truly do believe, as you do, that we are on the road to victory, and we will make America great again, again.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Thank you very much, everybody.
	There you have it, the President and Vice President Mike Pence making their remarks.
	President Trump saying, as far as I'm concerned, we've already won it.
	It will be the only headline that you read when you wake up tomorrow.
	Every newspaper in the country is now, you know, furiously rejiggering Their front page so that they can talk about the Red Mirage and Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and Google.
	I am certain before any of us are asleep tonight, we'll already be fact checking the president, censoring the president, saying that, I mean, look, they told us this was going to happen.
	We don't have to guess what's going to happen.
	All of the major social networks and media organizations said they would not allow someone to say what President Trump just said tonight.
	Michael, what do you think is going to happen?
	I think the left is cheating.
	I think they've been cheating since 2016.
	I think they're obviously cheating now.
	I think they're cheating by changing the rules.
	I think they're cheating by not continuing to count the ballots overnight.
	I think they're cheating in court.
	And I think they're cheating with crooked elected officials like the Attorney General of Pennsylvania, who called the election for Biden before Election Day even.
	And I think it is a damn fine thing that the president is standing up to it.
	He said something tonight that I think a lot of people are going to say was extreme.
	He shouldn't have gone that far.
	He said, I think we're going to win as far as I'm concerned, we already have.
	That was where it went far, right?
	Because he's saying, as far as I'm concerned, we've already won this race.
	That is the kind of extreme rhetoric that you're not going to get from Mitt Romney.
	You're not going to get it from John McCain.
	You didn't get it from Mike Pence afterwards.
	That makes people uncomfortable.
	It is the evidence.
	It is the maybe it's that negative thing, but it's also the positive thing about Trump that he is a fighter.
	He is going to going to go to court.
	I don't think he said anything there about ever, ever violating the law or cheating or doing anything.
	Michael, didn't the left?
	They set up the president for months.
	Yes.
	First by saying, he's definitely going to win on election night, but that's only going to be part of the story.
	That narrative is going to play.
	And he will not concede the election.
	And so what happened, exactly what they predicted, election night, you know, here he is doing very well.
	They push pause on the voting.
	Essentially, they prepared us to see the red mirage begin to fade over the coming hours and the president.
	Did not concede and, in fact, said he's going to fight to the end.
	Ben, what's your take?
	OK, so Mike Pence said what you're supposed to say, which is the exact same thing that Biden said, which is we think we're on the road to victory and when all the votes are counted, then the votes will be counted.
	And, you know, he could have left open the possibility that litigation would be necessary if voter fraud was detected or suspected.
	I mean, there's a responsible way to do this.
	I'm sorry, but it is deeply irresponsible for the president of the United States to declare in the middle of an election where not even close to all the votes have been counted In major swing states that he's already won the election and that it's a major fraud on the American people.
	Otherwise, I'm sorry, but that's irresponsible for him to say that as it is for the AG of Pennsylvania to say that the question is what folks are going to be counted.
	The question is in Pennsylvania.
	Are they going to invent a bunch of votes because they don't even need to be first evidence that a bunch of votes are invented then it'll end up in court but to preemptively declare fraud before any of those votes have been counted to declare that he's already won the election.
	When he says things like, I'm up by 100,000 votes in Michigan, and 60% of the vote has been counted, or 65% of the vote has been counted, so there's no way that I could lose the state.
	Are you kidding me?
	Of course there's a way you could lose the state.
	You can just count the rest of the votes.
	Okay, if we had taken that logic in Florida, he would have lost Florida.
	If we had taken that logic in Texas, we would have lost Texas.
	That's not the way this works.
	He's saying in Arizona, we need to wait until every single vote is counted.
	He's exactly right about Arizona.
	You can't then say, okay, we're not going to wait until every vote is counted.
	Legally counted, right?
	The ones that we all agree have to be legally cast.
	That means none of this crap where you find a box of ballots that are filled, you know, two days late with no postmarks.
	That is well deserving of any sort of lawsuit he wants to bring.
	That is well deserving of every screech that he can bring to bear.
	But you can't preemptively declare that this vote is a fraud on the American people before there's evidence that that has happened.
	Nor can you declare that you've preemptively won the election before the election is won.
	I'll push back just a little bit, Ben, because generally you and I see eye to eye on these things.
	There is a fraud being perpetrated, though.
	To Michael's point, the fraud has been going on, well, for four years, but certainly the fraud has been going on for several months.
	The left has been, in a very sophisticated way, Creating this exact moment.
	And by pushing pause in some of these states on the vote counting overnight, what they are essentially saying is, we don't want the count to end before our opportunity to cheat.
	Bingo.
	In other words, we gotta send everybody home so that if more ballots need to come in, there's no way to read that other than an opportunity for cheating.
	You might say they're not going to cheat, or you might say there's no evidence that they have cheated.
	It might even be factually true that they don't cheat.
	But they are giving themselves room to cheat.
	OK, that is all possible.
	And what he could easily say is they shouldn't have paused the voting.
	And we have our lawyers on the ground in all of these states making sure there will be no cheating.
	We are ready to file lawsuits if we detect the first sign of voter fraud.
	Right.
	That is all perfectly within bounds to declare himself the preemptive victor of an election in which half the votes have not yet been counted in any of the swing states he needs to win.
	And remember, if he loses Arizona, which it looks like he's going to, he doesn't just need to win Pennsylvania.
	He needs to win Pennsylvania and Wisconsin or Pennsylvania and Michigan.
	Right.
	Right.
	I mean, when he says that, I mean, putting aside the fact that he preemptively declared that he'd won Georgia, he may very well win Georgia.
	But George is very close at this point.
	I don't like this stuff.
	I spent half my show today ripping up the Pennsylvania AG for saying the exact same thing.
	I think there is a distinction, which is that the Pennsylvania AG actually has authority in the Pennsylvania election, and Donald Trump actually doesn't have any authority over it.
	The A.G.
	is saying before the even votes start to be counted, the thing that Donald Trump did in this speech is he not only just made the case, he quantified it.
	He quantified large, significant leads.
	My take on this is different than yours, Ben.
	My take is that he is saying that the fraud occurred when they stopped the counting.
	Period.
	That's when it occurred.
	And there's no question that whatever happened to stop the counting happened because Donald Trump had commanding leads in all of these states.
	Now, if you're right, and Donald Trump actually could have lost those states, let's just say that God's counting the votes and we get an actual count for once.
	Then you, okay, so maybe Trump did lose these states, but it's the stopping of the counting that's the fraud.
	And it's the stopping of the counting in the same way that you throw a circuit breaker when the market starts to crash.
	Yeah.
	Because what it does is it, is it takes away, it allows Biden to establish the narrative.
	And I think what Trump did was he established the counter narrative and I think he did it right up front.
	And I am tired of our side having to say constantly, I'm with you about the, about the, about the Politicians making these kind of claims.
	I'm 100% with you on that.
	But there comes a point when you have to say that if you are going to be the victim of a fraud and you don't say, I'm a victim of fraud right now, right now, then the story will be set in stone.
	The sooner he makes that claim, the sooner.
	I want him to win, right?
	I endorse him.
	I want him to win.
	I want all I want him to win.
	What I what I don't want is a situation in which either he wins and he has He has preemptively lessened his own victory by doing this, or he loses, and then everybody on our side of the aisle who wanted him to win believes without proper evidence that the election is false and wrong.
	By the way, he also happened to, just as a matter of PR, step on the fact that they retained the Senate and they won additional House seats.
	Why is he downplaying- Well, except that for Donald Trump, Again, we've talked about his flaws and his virtues tonight.
	One of his fundamental flaws is Donald Trump doesn't care if Republicans retain the Senate, if Donald Trump doesn't retain the presidency.
	He is not wired to think that way.
	Donald Trump doesn't think, he's not a self-sacrificial figure.
	Donald Trump sees the entire election as about Donald Trump.
	That's how Donald Trump sees the world.
	He sees buildings with his name on it, and he sees buildings without his name on it that his name could one day be on, right?
	So, I think what I would say is, I don't like the president saying as far as he's concerned he's won.
	I think that that's the overstep.
	I think that I agree with Bill and Michael that to say that a fraud is happening right now when you stop counting the vote in states where he is ahead.
	I actually do believe that that's a fraud.
	It's a fraud.
	It may not be stealing the election.
	But it is a kind of fraud.
	It's giving the opportunity for capriciousness.
	You're throwing a breaker on a collapsing stock market thing is accurate.
	Something could happen in a collapsing stock market organically to stop the collapse, but they're not giving that thing the opportunity to play out.
	They're saying, stop everything.
	I just have a question.
	I'm perfectly willing to say that that may, in fact, be fraud.
	I'm not willing to say that that is, in and of itself, fraud.
	I mean, what do they do?
	I need some evidence of what's actually happening.
	When has that ever happened?
	Pennsylvania has new laws for this cycle.
	They've got the whole, let's keep on voting until we get to the top.
	So put Pennsylvania aside.
	I agree.
	That should be a lawsuit there immediately, of course.
	The lead he had in those other states was a significant lead and it was an ongoing lead, so why did they stop counting?
	Why?
	Why don't they know?
	Because every single election that I've ever seen, certainly in this country, it may take two or three o'clock in the morning until they count the votes, but they keep counting until they get a number.
	So number one, why did they stop?
	And more importantly, I think, is how do they have the power to stop and get away with it?
	In other words, They were able to throw that circuit breaker on this election and somehow they got away with it.
	And how does that happen?
	Andrew?
	Well, I think Ben is speaking in a universe that I recognize as the moral universe.
	He's saying something that is absolutely right and true.
	Unfortunately, we're not living in that universe.
	We're living in a universe of narrative in which one side controls the narrative completely and has been using that narrative for weeks, if not longer, to set up a system whereby they could steal the election and Donald Trump's protests would seem to be the moral error.
	And so Donald Trump, as he always does, because he's tone-deaf to it, he doesn't care about it, is ignoring that narrative and setting a narrative of his own.
	You know, I have to say, it's been pretty effective for the last four years.
	It bothers me, too.
	It bothers me what he just said.
	This is the issue, though.
	Because, no, it bothers me what he just said.
	But he's a voice alone.
	He's a man alone against an incredible machine.
	Wait, hold on, hold on.
	In what world is he a man alone?
	And wait, wait, hold on.
	We all spend our lives defending against the lie.
	Every one of us in this room spends our entire life Defending against the lies that they are telling.
	And you're telling me that there's not one of us who'd be out there screaming with him from the top of the building about voter fraud in Pennsylvania when it is evidenced?
	I've literally said that he should have said in that speech, if there's evidence of voter fraud, we have lawyers on the ground in every state to make sure that this fraud does not, does not, does not do this.
	I want to, again, I want to see.
	As always, I wish Trump were that guy.
	I wish he had the way of framing things with that incredible strategy.
	He doesn't.
	He's a hammer, but he's a hammer up against a very big nail.
	You know, they really have worked this and they have the power to work it.
	We don't have the power to shape the narrative the way they do yet.
	And so he's fighting back against that narrative.
	Does he do it clumsily?
	Does he do it arrogantly and wrongly?
	Yeah, okay, but you can't discount that narrative.
	As a moral entity, you can't discount that narrative.
	I want him to fight back against that narrative.
	We all want him to fight back against that narrative.
	You want him to do it in a way that's not him.
	Well, no, I also want him to do it in a way that doesn't set the predicate for the next democratic narrative, which is going to be that if there's violence in the cities, they now blame him for the Well, this is the biggest potential danger to the president tonight, is that the left has been setting up.
	The left has Trump's number right now.
	They've known for weeks what he would do in this moment, and they started creating.
	You say he's owning the narrative right now.
	Unless he's owning the narrative, I'm saying he's fighting the narrative with the narrative.
	They baited him, I think, into making this statement.
	What he just said is what they are the most prepared for him to have said.
	And that's the danger.
	I want to be careful about being factually accurate.
	I'm not seeing what states have paused the voting.
	I see some chatter about paused voting.
	The President definitely implied paused voting.
	Who has actually paused their voting?
	Have we seen these states called?
	The only state that should not be called sometime tonight is Pennsylvania because of this insane ruling.
	Didn't he call for the voting to not be counted yet?
	He said keep counting the votes in Arizona, but we need to stop what's going on in the blue states, didn't he?
	No, he said keep counting the votes.
	That's not inconsistent.
	If he kept counting the votes according to his lead and his trends in Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, Then he is the next president or he's the president again.
	I'm actually not sure if that's true.
	We have to count the votes to know.
	What he's saying is quit finding votes.
	What he was very explicit about is keep counting votes.
	Don't keep accepting votes.
	New votes.
	There should not be new ballots coming into the system.
	Which I think is actually accurate.
	I don't think new ballots should be coming into the system.
	So Ben, I have enormous respect for you and this is a genuinely serious issue and I don't know the answer to it.
	But here's what it comes down to for me.
	When American Marines first faced the Japanese in Guadalcanal, they fought them more or less fairly the way they fought every other war, the way they fought even with the Wehrmacht in Germany.
	But when they found out that Japanese would wave a surrender flag, and then they would go and take the surrender, and then they'd machine gun these guys down, or somebody who's calling for a corpsman has a Japanese soldier's got a grenade and explodes and takes three people out, then the Marines, I just don't know what about the statement, fights the cause, is my issue.
	we fight on their level or do we lose?
	And that is the issue.
	And I don't have a simple answer for that.
	But the question is simply this.
	If you are fighting a dishonorable opponent and you decide that you're going to fight honorably, and that means that by fighting honorably, you lose the cause, then evil takes over.
	I just don't know what about the statement fights the cause is my issue, meaning that having lawyers file lawsuits, I'm all for having people there to make sure that the fraud doesn't I'm all for it.
	I actually generally agree with this.
	I think that the president's statement was not on the whole useful.
	I think that the left baited him into a statement and he gave it to them.
	I think that he, there are aspects of the speech that were very strong.
	Uh, I think there are a few places where you overstep and played right into the hands of Jack Dorsey.
	You know, I wouldn't be surprised if over the next few minutes we see for the first time, the president actually gets suspended from some of these social carte blanche from some of these social platforms because he just, he just crossed the red line that they've been setting up for him, uh, for the last several weeks.
	Let's put aside some time.
	Listen, We often disagree about the president's tone and tenor.
	Let's actually talk about what's going to happen next.
	Where is this going?
	What are we about to see take place?
	The big line, by the way, there is not the stuff where he says, I want all voting to stop.
	I think that we all agree here that the media is going to take that out of context and they're going to use that to suggest that he actually wants people not to have their ballots legally counted.
	What he means is don't keep counting ballots after If they arrive at 4 o'clock in the morning, then that's past the deadline.
	I get that.
	It's the Franklin we did win the election.
	That is the problem.
	No, I agree with that.
	Well, he's not as far as I'm concerned.
	I mean, that's an important qualifier.
	It is, you know.
	It's an important qualifier.
	When has Trump ever been responsible in doing this?
	The only thing that does always come back, it always comes back to me, you know, Trump drives me crazy this way.
	He does.
	He does.
	He says these things and I just want to like shake him and say, no, that's not the way you put that.
	But I understand that he is up against this powerful narrative that is set up by corporations so huge with such reach that he is.
	And by the way, Joe Biden didn't need to say, as far as I'm concerned, we've won the election because the entire establishment that works for Joe Biden is saying it for him and will be saying it for him.
	And has been saying it for him for weeks.
	And has already been saying it for him for weeks.
	And again, I get all that.
	And I also get that Hillary Clinton spent four years claiming that she won an election.
	She lost.
	And Stacey Abrams is governor of Georgia.
	When it comes to hearing about election respect from the Democrats, that I'm not willing to hear.
	I will say that one of the worst things that could happen, and it is a real possibility, is that if Donald Trump loses, and if he kind of pulls the Hillary Clinton and spends the next four years questioning the legitimacy of the election, which he'll almost certainly do, then there is no one left Who actually believes in the system.
	Because the left rejects the system.
	They want to remake the system.
	They say the system is fundamentally flawed.
	If the right can't, if the right doesn't believe in the system anymore, we're at a true crisis in the country.
	We're going to go to the Daily Wire War Room and hear from Elisha Krauss and the gang down there for a moment.
	Hey guys, we are wrapping up the night.
	I have been here, I think, for like 12 hours.
	It's been a lot of fun.
	And for some final consensus on what's happening on social media, I'm going to toss it over to Cassie Dillon.
	So right now on social media, everyone is talking about the speech that Trump just gave.
	For his ultra supporters, it really energized them, it gave them some confidence.
	But in his non-supporter group, they're very angry about it.
	People are taking quotes out of it.
	They're saying that it was wrong, what happened.
	Some people are saying that it's wrong, it'll go to the Supreme Court.
	One person said this is bad.
	So there's a lot of different messages coming out around his speech.
	Seems pretty partisan.
	Which is how most of his speeches go, so we'll see what happens.
	We're going to have to keep an eye on social media for the next 24 hours, it looks like, to really know what people are thinking about what's going on.
	So, I'm going to toss it back over to you guys to close out the night.
	Alright, and of course, we have the War Room A-Team.
	I think we can call ourselves the A-Team.
	It's been a lot of fun.
	We've covered a lot of information.
	We're still waiting on a lot of information to come in.
	Editor-in-Chief of the Daily Wire, Bickley, what happened?
	Could it have ended any other way by actually not ending?
	So it's not over.
	It's still going.
	There's still results to come in.
	We look at it, look, America's going to sleep.
	What's the situation?
	Trump, we said he had to win seven of the 12 battleground states.
	Looks like he's got five of them.
	Pennsylvania, he's way ahead and he's right about that.
	Can he possibly lose it statistically?
	Yes, he could lose it.
	So it is, it is possible.
	Both candidates have an argument.
	Arizona appears like he probably lost it.
	So we had talked about that with a different scenario.
	Our second scenario took into account an Arizona loss.
	Can he win without Arizona?
	Absolutely.
	He can win.
	If he won in Wisconsin, which he's performing still pretty well.
	Again, could he lose when all the counts in?
	Yes, of course he could.
	A few hours from now, we're told that more of the count's coming in.
	And just no one can handle staying up that late.
	So we'll find out more about Wisconsin.
	We'll probably wake up tomorrow morning and know a little bit more about Wisconsin.
	And by tomorrow morning, you mean like in a few minutes?
	It is tomorrow.
	I don't even know what time it is.
	I'm so mixed up on time zones.
	We also, you know, Pennsylvania, we knew this was going to be a problematic state.
	We knew both candidates focusing on it big time.
	And especially with the late count allowed for up to three days, a lot of people are talking about, look, we might not know till Friday.
	Let's hope that's not the case, but it might be the case.
	So look, there's lots to continue to tune in for.
	There's lots to come.
	And I think both candidates have made it really clear.
	They're not giving an inch.
	Neither is going to give an inch.
	So this is going to go all the way, every last vote, every last legal argument.
	That's what's coming in the next few days.
	And one of the things that we've been talking about throughout the night with you guys and here in the War Room is the media narrative of what's happening, the too-close-to-call, or not even calling actual states that Trump hence won or even Biden-Harris won.
	And Ian, this is something earlier that you spoke about.
	You thought that maybe 2020 would be a consensus and we would be able to have a consensus on the media.
	And is this election a referendum on the media?
	As of now, where does that sit?
	Yeah, so really this election is obviously very politically based.
	It's politics.
	But a big part of it is also a cultural referendum.
	And Trump is an entirely cultural figure.
	And so we've had four years where the media have basically lied to us.
	Like, lied to our face, told us not to believe our own lying eyes.
	They've told us the burning cities are just the result of peaceful protests.
	It's been time after time after time.
	But they're clearly just pushing Democrat narratives.
	This was our chance as conservatives to reject that, to make a very, very clear statement that the media and Biden are not really desired as representatives.
	The problem with this outcome is it creates a delay.
	It creates time for the adrenaline like we're all feeling right now to fade and for the media to calm it down and then just redirect the narrative to really whatever it needs to be.
	Like, this needed to be definitive, to be a definitive indictment of their behavior.
	And the lack of definition is really going to, I think, make that easy for them.
	They're going to get away with it, is my real concern.
	OK, and then speaking of that narrative, what are you walking away with tonight, Kavit?
	I mean, we also didn't see the blue wave.
	We've been talking all night long about these polls that had Biden and Harris up A couple digits.
	Not quite double digits, but pretty significant.
	Beyond the margin of error, ended up being wrong, and things aren't so, so bad for the GOP in the House and the Senate?
	Yeah.
	Well, there's not a lot of certainty right now in the presidential race, but there is certainty in one thing, and that's the narrative of a blue wave did not happen.
	We were assured from President Trump's first day in office there will be a huge blowback The American people, once they have a chance to go back, they'll show that this was a terrible mistake they made.
	That simply did not happen.
	And the clearest evidence of that, beyond how close the presidential race is, is the Senate.
	The Republicans are looking like they're going to end when all is said and done.
	Once we got runoff elections in Georgia, that's going to be down in January.
	But when all is said and done, we're probably looking at a 52 majority for Republicans in the Senate.
	The big takeaway there, if Joe Biden does win, and if Court packing becomes a serious policy proposition.
	It's going to be very difficult to get that done with the Senate now in Republican control.
	That's something that, if people are still uneasy, conservatives are uneasy about what's happening with Trump, they can go to bed knowing that they've got Mitch McConnell standing guard, if you will, on his, well, I was going to say cocaine Mitch, I'm not going to make that.
	It's late in the night, I've got so many jokes in my head.
	But I think that's the main takeaway.
	And the second takeaway Ian brought up is Just the way that the media, this is a repudiation of the media.
	This is people seeing, wait a second, I have been lied to, I've been misled.
	For all the Democrat talk of defund the police, defund the media.
	For the American people at home who are mad about what the media has been preaching them, you get the media you pay for.
	People are paying for that media.
	That's why the whole night I've been thinking, come to the Daily Wire.
	We're not going to push you through all of that.
	Defund the media and come join our team.
	That's where it's at right here.
	Awesome.
	It's a shameless pitch, but.
	I've been thinking it all night.
	It keeps us paid.
	Mama needs to get paid.
	That is why I'm here.
	Cabot, Ian, Bickley, it's been a lot of work, a lot of fun, and a total honor.
	Guys, tossing it back to you, and we are saying goodnight from the War Room.
	Alicia, thank you for the good work tonight.
	Thanks to everybody in the social media war room and in the writing and data war room.
	Thank you to Cassie Dillon for her great work tonight.
	Thank you to you and to Cabot for your terrific pregame show, which went on for three hours this afternoon and I think brought our Daily Wire members a lot of great information.
	It's been an unbelievable night, fellas.
	In four minutes, they're going to close, I believe, they're supposed to have, what has it been?
	170,000 absentee ballots in Michigan.
	That's right.
	I mean, in Wisconsin.
	If those come in and they do not break heavily for Biden, then Trump's in pretty good shape in Wisconsin.
	Right now, he leads by about 100,000 votes in Wisconsin or 9,000 votes in Wisconsin.
	They're still waiting for some reporting in from Madison.
	And from Milwaukee, but it is way too close for Democrats to feel any sense of comfort in Wisconsin.
	Ben, what is your take?
	Wisconsin is a more liberal state than Pennsylvania.
	So should this, does this... I mean, that works well, obviously, for him in Wisconsin.
	If Wisconsin, if he's able to maintain Wisconsin, then suddenly he becomes the favorite again, right?
	If he maintains Wisconsin, assuming he maintains Georgia, which again is going to be extremely, extremely close, then he becomes the favorite again.
	in the election after having lost Arizona.
	And that has now been confirmed by several different outlets. - It's actually, I have to say, surprising to me for the president to lose Arizona.
	I've spent some time in Arizona, even during COVID.
	And it seems like just classic Trump territory.
	I mean, Jeff Flake, Cindy McCain, is that the difference?
	Is that what's happened down there?
	I think that he really ticked off a lot of people.
	The suburban area around Phoenix really cut against him.
	You saw this in the Kristen Sinema election.
	She should have lost that election.
	She's a radical in her younger days.
	She had a bevy of material for doing kind of crazy things.
	And she ended up winning that election fairly narrowly.
	They've lost both Senate seats in the course of the last four years, so that is a state that seems to be trending more in the purple direction or the blue direction, even while Florida seems to be trending more red, Ohio seems to be trending more red.
	The question in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin is, were those outliers last time, or were those things that are trending red?
	Overall, this is a much, much, much better night for Republicans than I think anybody had a right to expect, based on the bad polling data going in.
	The Republicans are going to maintain a Senate majority.
	That is a big win.
	And a lot of that has to do with the coattails of President Trump in some of these states.
	I mean, the fact is that Trump winning North Carolina probably pushes Tom Tillis, who outperformed Trump by a couple of points, over the finish line.
	The fact is that Trump's intervention in some of the states like Iowa, like his late-breaking surge in Iowa, definitely helped Joni Ernst in Iowa.
	But Susan Collins wildly outperformed in Maine.
	So her maintaining that seat was really big.
	Daines outperforms in Montana.
	The Senate race has mattered an awful lot.
	In the presidential race, Florida, the early expectation by the polls is that he was going to lose Florida.
	He wins Florida walking away.
	He wins Ohio walking away.
	Georgia, too close for comfort.
	North Carolina, closer than it should be.
	But, you know, we're still finding out what exactly is going on.
	As far as, you know, his sort of final speech, your bottom line is this.
	Like virtually everything else Trump says, it's going to get litigated in court and all of the All the talk about, you know, whether he won or whether he lost is going to move by the wayside like much else that he says.
	I think it'll end up being, I think, more like a Tempest in a teapot than anything else when it's all said and done.
	But the election isn't over.
	And if somebody tells you the election is over at this point, that is because they're not being completely honest with you.
	The fact is that until these big numbers come in, Philadelphia has not been counted in Pennsylvania.
	Okay, that's going to make a rather large difference, even though Trump has a 700,000 vote advantage.
	Have they not counted anything from Pennsylvania?
	Kind of like half of Philadelphia, a quarter of Philadelphia, something like that.
	So where you are in the state obviously makes a big difference as to what's coming in.
	It's not as though everything is equally proportioned, and so 60% isn't the same as 100%, right?
	Right.
	It all depends on where it's coming in.
	For the first time since 2000, Americans are going to go to bed on election night not knowing who has actually won the presidency.
	No matter how you slice it, that is bad for our republic.
	That is bad for people's faith in our institutions, bad for people's faith in our system of government, and anytime people have questions, anytime you have a bad night for our system of government, it's a good night for the left.
	So the problem that I see is at this point, even if the president does secure his reelection over the next hours or days or weeks, we have lost something important tonight to the narrative, to the left, to the way that people perceive it.
	I mean, I think a clean win was on the table for Trump here, right?
	He had the lawyers ready to go.
	So, I mean, he could have just said, listen, he could have said exactly word for word what Biden said, and then he could have walked away.
	And then when the evidence, I mean, he's the president, he can call a vote, he can call a presser any time he wants, right?
	I mean, if he says, I'm speaking right now, all the cameras show up, he's the president.
	So he could easily have done this tomorrow if there was actual evidence of voter fraud pouring in or Philadelphia started taking, you know, false votes that were not postmarked or something like that.
	And there will be lawsuits in Pennsylvania and there probably should be lawsuits in Pennsylvania because their voting standards are garbage.
	As far as sort of the vote count pause and all of that and, you know, does that create potential for fraud?
	What I've seen is Allegheny County in Pennsylvania, which is Pittsburgh, they paused the vote count because I guess they said they were short on staff.
	In Milwaukee, they didn't actually pause the vote count.
	They didn't know there was an election on tonight.
	In Milwaukee, they didn't actually pause the vote count.
	They just decided they're going to release all vote totals from Milwaukee and the absentees at the same time.
	So they just weren't going to give a continuous update.
	They were just going to release it as a bulk, which honestly, Since I'm not a local election official, I don't know how that is supposed to work, to be completely honest with you.
	Right.
	If there's something illegal there, there are many, many, many, many, many lawyers on the ground.
	Tim Alberta from Washington Post says, Wisconsin's going to be very, very tight.
	Bulk of outstanding ballots coming from Milwaukee County.
	Clinton won it by 162,000.
	Biden currently ahead by 53,000.
	Trump is currently ahead by 110,000.
	If Biden picks up enough to reach parity with Clinton in 16, they are virtually tied.
	So.
	Wow.
	Everything much too close for comfort, obviously.
	Yeah, I do think, you know, what Trump was doing, and we can, I think we all feel a little squeamish, at least, about what he did.
	But what he is doing is setting his own narrative.
	And it is my contention that the left was going to accuse him, whatever they were going to accuse him of.
	And whether he takes the bait or he doesn't take the bait, they were going to push their narrative tomorrow that Biden had won.
	And Trump decided to jump on top of that and preempt it.
	You know, we said we weren't going to make predictions.
	And we really didn't make predictions.
	I had a very little bit of money on the election, but I made it a little bit of money because I didn't want to make a big prediction.
	The one election prediction I made is that this would happen.
	The one election prediction I made is that this would go to court and the president has already promised us that that will happen.
	It's the old story.
	We wouldn't have gotten this far if he weren't Trump and we wouldn't be sitting here uncomfortable if he weren't Trump.
	I mean, it's always the same thing with Trump.
	He comes with his virtues and his flaws in the same package.
	Yeah, as do we all.
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