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Dec. 6, 2019 - The Michael Knowles Show

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Daily Wire Backstage: Kamalye Faithful

Are the Dems giving Trump a big Christmas present with this Impeachment nonsense? Will Biden be forced to testify in the Senate about his dark Ukraine dealings? Now that Kamala is out, who will be the next candidate to exit the race? Join this roundtable discussion featuring Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, Michael Knowles, Daily Wire god-king Jeremy Boreing, and special guest Adam Carolla as they get to the bottom of these questions and more. Can't get enough of The Michael Knowles Show? Enjoy ad-free shows, live discussions, and more by becoming an ALL ACCESS member TODAY at: dailywire.com/Knowles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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	Hey, Michael Knowles here with the latest dispatches from the war on Christmas and so much more.
	In the latest Daily Wire backstage, Come All Ye Faithful, we give the gift that keeps on giving, namely talking about the hilarious Democrats who think they will be president.
	You will hear from me, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, the God King Jeremy Boring, and since you've been so good this year, you will also hear from our special guest, Adam Carolla, to talk about his new film, No Safe Spaces.
	Take a listen.
	How about a fake laugh? - It's hard even to gin up a fake laugh.
	And I'll tell you why.
	It's because the real world is so damn funny.
	It's not fake.
	Yeah, I can't stop laughing at reality.
	By the way, I have to say, I'm so glad that you actually got this for like the week when this person's going to be relevant.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	It's Christmas time.
	Welcome to the Daily Wire backstage.
	The Kamali...
	I can't even say it.
	The Kamali faithful.
	I really blew that joke, and it's such a good joke.
	It's such a great joke.
	But what's happening is our teleprompter doesn't work.
	Oh, no.
	As per usual arrangement.
	Yeah, so then you're just off your...
	It was working two minutes ago.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, two minutes ago, we weren't shooting a show.
	Oh, that's right.
	I forgot.
	It is I, Jeremy Boring, your trusty neighborhood Daily Wire God King with a lowercase g and a lowercase k, and I am joined, as always, by Benjamin Shapiro.
	Michael Knowles, Andrew Klavan, and Elisha Krause.
	I didn't call her lovely.
	I just wanted to...
	She makes it up.
	She so is.
	I know.
	It's disparaging women.
	You look lovely tonight.
	Sheesh.
	Aw, I'm sorry.
	The lovely Elisha Krause.
	Elisha, how you doing?
	I'm pretty good, and my teleprompter is working, so this is the opportunity that I have to take over the show.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm just here to remind all of our subscribers out there that are watching at home or, I don't know, on the metro if you're stuck on the D.C. or New York metro or somewhere in an airport headed home or to work, whatever.
	If you want to ask the guys questions, you have to be a Daily Wire subscriber.
	Go over to dailywire.com.
	Be sure to find the shows page up at the top and click on backstage and then type your questions into the chat box.
	Questions are already pouring in.
	It sits next to the video.
	The chat box is right next to the video so you can be watching and chatting at the same time.
	And I don't know if he's teased it yet or not.
	Can I tease the big guest tonight?
	Am I allowed?
	I think she already did.
	I was saving it for when I remembered later on.
	Because I don't have a teleprompter to actually hear me about these things.
	So I think it'd be best if you did it.
	All right.
	Well, Jeremy was going to tell all y'all that the big guest tonight is none other than Adam Carolla.
	And it'll be coming up.
	All right.
	He'll be coming up shortly, and he'll be taking your questions, but only if you're a subscriber.
	So to get those questions in for Adam and all the guys, because let's be honest, you're over asking the God King and all the guys over there, all the questions, right?
	If you want to get a question in for Adam Carolla, be sure to go over and ask, and we'll see if it happens on the air.
	Thank you, E. Alicia Krause.
	We have so much to talk about today before Adam gets here, because once he's here, I feel like we're going to be talking about culture, which will be fine.
	But betwixt now and then, so much has happened since last we were together.
	So much has happened since I got to work.
	First of all, I barely recognize you.
	I thought you were a gentlegum.
	Mr.
	Ludlum over there?
	I did get attacked by...
	I shouldn't say I got attacked.
	We got attacked by a journalist and then I attacked him right back.
	Good and proper, I thought.
	But the big story is, of course, Kamala is out of the race, so it's only a matter of time before we're all arrested.
	That bus is available now.
	That bus is available.
	The DOC is taking over.
	The bar's on the bus.
	Right outside.
	I think I actually have to admit, I hate to do this.
	I only do this once every ten years.
	I got Kamala Harris completely wrong.
	Everyone did.
	Everyone did.
	I thought on paper she was such a good candidate, and then she opened her mouth and cackled and talked about smoking blunts with Snoop Dogg, and she completely cackled.
	I'm going to miss that laugh, aren't you?
	I mean, it was so charming.
	It will always be my dream.
	That's exactly, I mean...
	Listen, before you get too reminiscent about the heady days of yesteryear when you could hear that cackling laugh, Hillary might get back in the race.
	Yeah.
	People were asking what she was going to do next, and it's like, well, I thought Joaquin Phoenix was only signed for one film.
	And also, we have the black version of every single superhero movie now.
	And female, right?
	We have black female Bond, right, who's coming, apparently.
	So why not black female Joker?
	I think if they want a black female to run, they should get Justin Trudeau.
	It's Two-Face.
	It's real Two-Face.
	I have to say, yes, we all got Kamala wrong.
	I enjoyed having her in the race.
	The reason is because her campaign manager on Twitter, at least once a week, would say, and he was not joking, would say who they were going to arrest.
	And what they were going to ban.
	Like, full on, you know, when Kamala Harris is in the White House, people who drink whiskey and smoke cigars will be outlawed.
	You know what I love, too?
	On her birthday, they posted the exact same tweet that Hillary Clinton posted, a black and white photo, which when Kamala was a kid, by the way, they had color photos, so they artificially made it black and white.
	Happy birthday to this future president.
	This was after Kamala Harris hired all of Hillary's ex-staff.
	This is as she trotted out the campaign.
	That meme is now 0 for 2.
	Not, it's just not a great idea.
	Because Democrats believe, Kamala Harris believe, just as they believe with Stacey Abrams, They believe that they win every race that they lose.
	And so in most businesses...
	Beto.
	Yeah.
	That's right, Beto.
	In most businesses, like the person who lost last time, their entire team is anathema.
	You don't want anything to do with that.
	Like, oh wait, you guys were the last in the league last year?
	Yeah, your coaches aren't going to work again.
	No one's picking your players up.
	No one's picking your players up.
	Those Bear Stearns guys didn't get hired by Goldman, right?
	You're out.
	Hollywood is just Yes.
	Well, Elizabeth Banks just got picked up for another major film.
	I sent this to someone the other day.
	And for the same reason, because it's all imagery.
	It's all like, yeah, that looks like a presidential candidate in my imagination.
	That looks like a movie star in my imagination.
	That's a movie that should have worked in my imagination.
	And the fact that it didn't just has no resonance whatsoever.
	Yeah.
	The best thing about the Kamala Harris candidacy fail has been the reaction of the media and the other Democrats to her leaving.
	Because everybody is suddenly weeping openly about this.
	She had 0% support.
	None.
	No, her immediate family didn't support her.
	The big surprise of her dropping out was that her husband took a picture with her.
	He's like, oh, One person likes her.
	That's great.
	That's really exciting.
	No one liked her.
	Willie Brown was supportive.
	Oh, that's a low point.
	Very low.
	Terrible.
	Terrible.
	But in any case, the best person on all of this has been Cory Booker.
	Because Cory Booker has been putting out an email.
	Somebody signed me up.
	It's pretty great.
	See, here's the thing.
	When people know you online, then they start signing you up for all of the things they think you will hate.
	So my typical account, because it's public, will receive emails from Planned Parenthood and the campaigns for Warren and Booker.
	And the ones from Warren and Booker are actually really amusing.
	So the ones from Booker, every six hours since she's dropped out, I'm not kidding, every six hours, there's been an email from Cory Booker in my inbox that says, Dear Ben, the stage is completely white now.
	We need to get me on that stage to prove that we are a diverse party.
	And I think to myself, this is amazing, because now they're calling themselves racist.
	It's amazing.
	Every editorial, Charles Blow did one in the New York Times today.
	It was on MSNBC, on CNN. NBC did a full editorial on this whole thing.
	It's so hard for a black woman.
	I'm like, okay, first of all, if Michelle Obama jumped in tomorrow, she'd win the race by 40 points, both the general and the primaries.
	Also, I love the idea that Americans are not willing to vote for a black president.
	It's like Barack Obama just never existed.
	Trump erased him from existence like Thanos.
	It's like he's just gone.
	But this has always been implied in their philosophy.
	They yell at us because we're the enemy.
	But it's always implied in their philosophy that all of America...
	It's racist.
	So really, if you're standing next to them, they're only yelling at us now.
	The minute they're done with us, they'll turn to you and come after you.
	But there's also a huge oversight here, which is, isn't Elizabeth Warren still in the race?
	You know, you make a great point.
	I was going to mention Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang, but Elizabeth Warren...
	It's actually true.
	They factually got it wrong, except they've been trying to ignore those two candidates as best they can and kick them off the stage.
	Elizabeth Warren only became white in the Democrat narrative.
	She only became white when Kamala Harris got out of the race.
	Now I get to tell you about Warren's emails.
	She's been sending me emails too.
	And it's so nice.
	So she sends me emails and the emails say things like, Dear Ben, do you remember when Kirsten Gillibrand and Kamala Harris were forced from the race after winning a combined 11.5 million votes in their Senate races, only so billionaires like Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer could be in?
	And I thought to myself, Has anyone mentioned Kirsten Gillibrand for months?
	Was she a human being?
	Also, isn't Amy Klobuchar on the stage?
	And isn't Tulsi Gabbard still in?
	And aren't you there?
	It's really funny because now they're...
	There are all these articles about Tom Steyer.
	There are all these articles like, Tom Steyer is still in the race.
	Why hasn't he been forced from the race?
	Because no one forced Kamala Harris from the race.
	She dropped out.
	It's voluntary.
	She could have stuck around, but she realized she had gotten her ass kicked in California.
	She was afraid.
	That she was going to tank in the early states.
	She'd have to stick around until California.
	She'd finish fourth in California.
	And it would have been humiliating if she drops out now, then maybe she's got a cabinet position.
	She hasn't got Hillary Clinton's taste for humiliation.
	Just utter shamelessness.
	Did you see Hillary on Howard Stern?
	She could actually get back in the race.
	She don't want it so bad.
	I want to talk about Hillary on Howard Stern, and in particular, I want to talk about my Christmas wish that Hillary actually gets in the...
	I'm just hoping against hope, you guys.
	I know she keeps saying people are urging her to get in the race.
	It's all me.
	Trump is sending her pictures.
	If there is a Hillary for President website out there, please go and give.
	You would make four pundits so, so happy.
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	Kamala Harris, the one thing about this, though, that I think we should talk about, the fact that you and I especially, I think we were afraid of her when she got in the race.
	We thought this was a dangerous candidate.
	And the thing is, the people are not, like, all wise that they will delve into every policy decision, but they are smarter than imagery.
	And the imagery helps you first out of the gate.
	But we have to remember that.
	They know what they don't like.
	But the press, yes, they know what they don't like.
	And they can, just like everybody, you can look at a person and think like, eh, something's shifty about, you know, like Noles.
	You can just see, like, watch your wallet.
	And I think that people can see these things and we don't trust them to see them.
	And even Democrats can see them.
	Also the media turned on her early.
	They turned on her in support.
	But they also built her up.
	Yeah, but they built her up, and then she got up there and they went, oh my God, this woman will lock us up.
	Maybe we have gone too.
	People are saying that it was Tulsi who took her out, and that's not true.
	If you look at the polls, she took herself out, right?
	She leapt up to the top of the polls, and then immediately she started to recede because she's the Hindenburg.
	And people saw that she was flip-flopping like a fish on Medicare for all.
	And even her initial attack on Joe Biden about forced busing was completely dishonest because no one supports forced busing, especially not Kamala Harris.
	It was the 1970s.
	It was like another era, you know?
	Even in the 1970s, nobody supported forced buses.
	It was deeply unpopular even in the 1970s because who the hell wants to put your kid on a bus and bus them an hour to a school where they know nobody?
	It created white flight.
	The entire white flight problem, at least a huge percentage of it, was created by attempts to force buss.
	And so, you know, it was an idiotic attempt.
	She was relegated in her final days.
	I love talking about the final days of Kamala Harris.
	She was relegated in her final days to being on stage, chiding Elizabeth Warren for not calling on Twitter to ban Donald Trump.
	And I was like, this is how low you've sunk.
	But it was kind of amazing because the fact is, until she dropped out, I thought there might be a shot that she would be a second look candidate.
	It would be like second look at Kamala Harris.
	The reason being because this feels a lot like 2012 for the Republicans, where it was like everybody early on, they were like, oh, Mitt Romney, that guy's probably pretty good.
	And they looked at him and they went, And then they looked at it like, maybe Newt Gingrich.
	Well, maybe Rick Sanchez.
	Michelle Bachman.
	Herman Cain.
	And they literally went through like a thousand people.
	And then finally it came back around like, oh, I guess Romney's still here.
	Okay, fine.
	Well, that's Joe Biden circa 2020, right?
	I mean, like all along, Biden has been the guy where he was expected to win and he's never dropped below 25% in the national polling.
	And he's still winning by large numbers in South Carolina and throughout the South.
	When you wonder why they're trying to impeach Donald Trump, you only have to look at Joe Biden and tell yourself, this is their friend.
	Although today was his best day.
	Yeah, it was a good day.
	That was great.
	Okay, come on.
	Let's be real.
	The guy's eyes explode, you know.
	But he did call that person fat.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	He called him fat.
	And that was his name, by the way.
	Yeah, Johnny Fact.
	Johnny Fact.
	I have to say, I was totally amused.
	For people who missed it, today, Joe Biden was doing a rally.
	It wasn't a rally.
	It was like a Q&A in Iowa.
	And some portly fellow, it was an Elizabeth Warren supporter apparently, gets up and starts asking about Hunter Biden.
	And Joe gets visibly perturbed and gets very angry.
	Because the guy says that he saw it on the TV. Called him to be a liar.
	Right, he says, you're a damn liar.
	And the guy says, well, I saw it on the TV. He says, well, I'm not sedentary.
	I'll get out there and I'll exercise.
	And he's like, what?
	This is a non-sequitur, okay.
	And he's like, well, I'll do a push-up contest with you.
	I'll do an IQ contest with you.
	And then he literally says to him, look, fat.
	And I thought to myself, He could be president.
	Because everybody online on Twitter, they're like, this is a bad moment for Joe Biden.
	I was like, Donald Trump is the president of the United States.
	If Joe Biden had said to the guy, I'm going to come over there and grab you by the pussy, he'd be president tomorrow.
	But you forget everybody who imitates Donald Trump dies.
	But that's not an imitation.
	Joe Biden is Joe Biden.
	It's not illegitimate.
	Yeah, I don't think it was him.
	You know, I had to think.
	When I saw that 77-year-old Joe Biden up there calling that guy fat, challenging, I just thought, what the hell did this guy do to corn pop?
	No.
	Rhymed with the chain.
	I can't even imagine what this guy did.
	I don't know.
	I think Joe Biden, though, the fact that the guy is a frontrunner really tells us something about the Democratic.
	Well, I agree, but here's my question.
	Dick Morris today wrote a piece about...
	I said we'd talk about Hillary getting in.
	Here it is.
	Dick Morris writes a piece today about...
	Author of Hillary vs.
	Condi.
	Yes, exactly.
	2004.
	I was going to say, I actually like Dick Morris.
	He's a nice guy, but he has been wrong about every single thing.
	All of them.
	But...
	Sometimes he's wrong about things, and for two or three minutes I think, I wonder if Dick Morris is right.
	But then today, in his article about Hillary getting into the race, and he says her every thought is fixed upon it, he says, but she's going to wait until Biden gets out.
	He's clearly the next person to drop.
	I thought, on what planet is Joe Biden going to drop?
	Yeah.
	Never.
	Never.
	He's dead already, but he can't even...
	That's not even a possibility.
	Listen, Pat.
	His whole philosophy is that he's going to win the later states, which is always a bad philosophy.
	Well, no.
	His philosophy is that Buttigieg or Sanders, they'll split some of the early states.
	It's not that late.
	South Carolina's third up.
	South Carolina's third up, plus Nevada.
	He's leading in both.
	Right.
	And then you get to Super Tuesday, and all he has to do is clear.
	And by the way, we're joking here.
	Something like 75 to 85, a large percentage of the Democrat primary voters are happy with their lineup.
	Right.
	And by the way, this is the thing that people are ignoring about the whole Kamala Harris dropout.
	And this is what's so amusing.
	People are like, oh, this just shows the systemic racism of American society.
	It's even bled down to the Democratic Party.
	Kamala Harris had 0% black support.
	Zero.
	Like, no one cared about her.
	Cory Booker has zero percent black support.
	You know who has all the black support?
	Joe Biden.
	Yeah.
	Which, by the way, speaks pretty well, I would say, honestly, of black voters in the Democratic Party who aren't at least just saying, oh, look, a black guy.
	I'm going to vote for him.
	Right.
	Right.
	Which was...
	They tried that once.
	It didn't work out.
	Well, that's it.
	But that's how the media portrays black voters is, OK, here's a black guy.
	Black people vote for that black person.
	That's my point about Kamala Harris.
	That is how the media thinks.
	Right.
	You have to be careful.
	The voters are actually smarter than that.
	Right.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to go.
	No, I do think you're absolutely right.
	I think that the media are thinking in this very shallow, sort of racial way.
	But what we're all underestimating is the brilliance of Joe Biden's strategy here.
	Because it was the same strategy as Rudy Giuliani.
	And, you know, Giuliani got re-elected two or three times.
	But to Ben's point, I don't think it's fair to say that that's quite what Biden is doing.
	It's one thing, like, Giuliani legitimately said he wasn't going to even compete until Florida.
	Mm-hmm.
	So he didn't just say, I'm not going to win Iowa.
	No, you're right about that.
	It is also important to note that there's a vast difference between the late state strategies of a party that is largely homogenous in racial terms, meaning the Republican Party of Florida looks a lot like the Republican Party of New Hampshire or Iowa, or at least a lot more.
	The Democratic Party of South Carolina looks nothing like the Democratic Party of Iowa.
	But it's also the person who wins Iowa rarely wins the president.
	And this is the reason, because the Democratic Party in South Carolina, the voting base in South Carolina in the Democratic primary is two-thirds black.
	The voting base in Iowa in the Democratic primary is 100%, 197% white, including Elizabeth Warren.
	There was a time when you thought Biden was an actual threat to Trump.
	Do you actually think that he could be Trump?
	Yes.
	And the reason still is because Donald Trump makes lots of mistakes.
	I've always said that the election is going to rest on who is this referendum upon.
	Is this a referendum on Trump or is it a referendum on the Democrat?
	If it were Warren, Buttigieg, Sanders, then Kamala Harris, then the radicalism of the Democrat would be enough to drive a lot of moderate voters to go, I don't like this Trump guy very much.
	He seems like kind of a jerk, but the economy's good.
	He's not screwing up my life.
	All right, I guess I have to pull the lever for that guy.
	But Joe Biden has 100% name recognition.
	Everybody thinks what they think about him.
	He's basically a dead guy.
	And a dead person is not a bad person to run against Trump because it's not a referendum on the dead guy.
	You know the dead guy's dead.
	I have a question.
	Do you feel, like you as a conservative, do you feel anywhere near as threatened by Joe Biden as president as you do by Elizabeth Warren or any of the other Democrats?
	You have to ask, when was the last time?
	Because to your point, he's already a dead guy.
	When was the last time the more boring candidate won?
	Yeah, that's always the more charismatic candidate.
	I can't think of it.
	I can't name it.
	But we talk about how Trump is unique in many ways.
	One of the ways in which he's unique is that what's interesting about him is alienating to a particular demographic.
	And that particular demographic, married suburban women, I think we'll look back with a certain fondness on the Obama era.
	Because during the Obama era, we may have been having policy losses and we may have been having economic losses.
	We don't remember those because they weren't that painful.
	But we do remember that things just weren't crazy.
	And Joe Biden just kind of represents this return to a time when that nice young man was president and everybody was kind of friendly and everybody kind of got along.
	And fat people sat down.
	But that's...
	I'm not saying Biden must win, but this is why Biden is most likely to win of anybody that the Democrats thought about running.
	Always, always the strongest Democratic pitch was the 1920 Warren G. Harding return to normalcy campaign.
	That was always the strongest Democratic pitch because the only thing they've been successful in doing is keeping the feeling this...
	It's a roiling feeling of upset and chaos going.
	That's the only thing the Democrats have been good at doing for the last several years.
	I mean, they've not been able to stop Trump's agenda.
	He's been able to get large swaths of it through.
	But they have been able to make people feel deeply uncomfortable with each other.
	Well, because they have the entire press.
	No, right.
	Again, I agree with all of that, right?
	I'm not saying that's Trump's fault.
	I think that the Democrats, I mean, I think it's partially Trump's fault.
	Well, of course.
	No, Trump is an abrupt personality.
	Trump is Trump, right?
	He's a volcano, right?
	And they cover the volcano, but they also exacerbate the effect of the volcano.
	I will say, I know this is the most unpopular opinion I have, but I will say that Trump has been toning it down.
	If you watch what he's doing, he is catching on.
	You think that Trump never changes, but he always changes.
	He's always playing the game.
	Yeah, this is your most unpopular opinion.
	Yeah, it's my most unpopular opinion.
	It's a bad opinion.
	It's wrong.
	But it's true.
	No, he just oversees Drew.
	He's just not here.
	At NATO, he's like walking around slapping people, like Laurel and Hardy.
	Are you going to hit on Trump for slapping Europeans?
	Come on.
	But did you see Biden's ad?
	Like, Biden ran that ad, right?
	It was like, the Europeans don't respect Donald Trump.
	And I thought, there's a...
	I was like, that's going to play in Michigan.
	Like, the Michigan autoworker is like...
	Macron doesn't love him.
	That European incident actually showed Drew's point, though.
	Which, the point is, he's in the environment where Donald Trump, of even a year and a half ago, would have gone on a three-hour tirade...
	That's right.
	About little pencil-neck Justin Trudeau, that dirtbag idiot, you know.
	And instead...
	No, he got one line in.
	He said he's two-faced.
	But look, I'm representing the United States.
	Maybe he doesn't like that very much.
	And then he insulted Macron.
	Listen, I have no problem with insulting any of these people.
	I think they're schmucks.
	No, but he's not doing what he was doing before.
	At least not now.
	You're a crazy person.
	He tweeted out a picture of himself as Rocky Balboa last week.
	That was genius.
	Genius?
	I was amused.
	Was it like Lincoln writing the Gettysburg Address?
	Or was it like the farewell address from George Washington?
	Can we put it on a list here?
	I want some sort of context for genius.
	Like the theory of relativity or like the string theory genius?
	Where are we going here with this, Drew?
	When we say that the president has made changes recently, you can't kick it back to a week ago.
	That's how Trump lives.
	We live in Trump's America.
	No, no, no.
	I want to hear from some of our DailyWire.com subscribers to get in on this conversation.
	Alicia.
	All right.
	I mean, man, how many pina coladas has Ben had?
	Because he sounds real excited tonight.
	I'm ready to get the hell out of here, Alicia.
	All right.
	So this question comes from a great Daily Wire subscriber.
	He wants to know, quote, it seems independents and minority voters have been turning in Trump's favor, according to some recent polls over the last couple of months.
	But other than the backlash to the impeachment hearing and what Democrats are doing there, is there something else that you can see that is causing that shift?
	Yes!
	He's giving them jobs.
	He's doing a good job for minority people.
	He is, you know, like all the talk.
	I mean, that last poll that said that he had 33 to 34 percent among blacks, I think that poll is right.
	And I think that I'm surprised.
	If you're right, then Republicans will never lose again.
	I mean, all Republicans have to do is win about 12 percent of the black vote and they never lose.
	I mean, listen, there's something there's something about dinner on the table here.
	That has a very, very solid effect on people.
	You can sit there and say, this guy, you can watch on TV, on CNN, they bring on college professors, they say, yes, but the things he says.
	People are sitting there home going, you know, I like having this dinner on the table.
	I like going to work in the morning, having my wife and kids respect me.
	You know, this is It's a good thing.
	And it's not just one poll.
	It's not just the Emerson poll.
	There was the NPR Marist poll.
	There was obviously Rasmussen.
	Plus, I've been saying this for two years.
	Right.
	Yeah, but there's...
	I mean, to be fair, at least...
	Well, we're going to have to see how the polls bear out because there is some pretty mixed polling data, right?
	Gallup suggests that he's basically exactly where he always was.
	Yeah.
	But I hope that you guys are right.
	Yeah.
	Alicia.
	Doing better than Buttigieg, right?
	All right.
	With Kamala dropping out of the race this week, who do you think will be the next 2020 Democratic candidate to be next out?
	Good question.
	I think Warren, Sanders, Buttigieg, and Biden certainly go all the way to Iowa.
	What's the incentive for people to get out at this point?
	I guess that's my question.
	I think Klobuchar is the next one to get out, probably.
	But do you think anyone gets out before Iowa?
	Maybe Klobuchar, if she doesn't start to pick up any ground.
	She is making some modest headway, isn't she?
	She is in New Hampshire.
	She's starting to pull a little bit.
	There's no world where Tulsi gets out.
	There's no world where Yang gets out.
	Right.
	The one that I hope doesn't get out, he should get out, though I hope he doesn't for entertainment value, is Julian Castro, my favorite.
	The great defender of abortion rights for men.
	I think you'll see.
	I don't have my abortion rights.
	I mean, Booker has been...
	Booker might do it just so he can whine and bitch about how he's not in the race anymore.
	I mean, he's a very whiny human being.
	He's Mr.
	Potato Head.
	He goes around, he takes out the angry eyes.
	I have to tell you, I was talking not that long ago, a while back, I mean, a couple months ago, to a Booker guy, a guy who was working for Booker, and I said, you know he's never going to be president, right?
	And his face fell, and I thought, I'm delivering This is bad, you know, you should know that.
	Political radiologist, Andrew Klayman.
	I don't want to tell you a good job or nothing.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Alicia.
	All right, so a follow-up to that is, of the three people that were actually supporting Kamala, you know, other than her mom and dad, which candidate do you see all of her supporters going to and why?
	Next question, Alicia.
	How would we know when they went?
	Really?
	Okay.
	That sample is too small.
	There's no way to tell.
	I mean, who will her husband support?
	We'll have to ask him.
	We're not going to see any change in the polls.
	No.
	Booker is desperately hoping that there will be a, oh my god, there's only one black guy left in the race.
	What do we do?
	Maybe we'll go to that black guy.
	And everybody's like...
	Cory Booker.
	Cory McBooker.
	Yeah, man.
	No way.
	Just to kick Kamala while she's down, it is worth pointing out here that people are saying she had 3.5% when she got out.
	That's not true.
	That was outdated.
	The most recent poll, as she got out, put her at 2%.
	She was down two points.
	Put Mike Bloomberg at 6%.
	That was a Harris poll.
	Mike Bloomberg had three times the support of Kamala Harris, and no one is voting for her.
	This is actually a hopeful thing that I'm kind of feeling, I know, it's weird, for the Democratic Party, is that the candidates who are doing well are the ones who are the least crazy.
	Yes.
	Okay, that doesn't mean they're not crazy.
	They're crazy.
	But they're the least crazy.
	No, but if you look at the people who are gaining momentum, it's Buttigieg, right, who's portraying himself as not crazy.
	He's actually a very nasty human being, which you've seen as soon as the mask slips.
	And a complete cynic.
	And a real cynic.
	But the old Pete Buttigieg, the one who is out there with Salvation Army and says he'll eat at Chick-fil-A and pretends that he's a moderate.
	That guy is a lot less bad for the country than Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders.
	Biden and also Bloomberg.
	We all look at each other and we're like, who the hell supports Michael Bloomberg?
	His first poll from Hill Harris, he's at 6%.
	He's leapfrogging everybody.
	I don't like the guy.
	He did a good job in New York.
	He's maintaining Giuliani's The crime rates continued to drop.
	Economic growth was maintained under blue.
	Mount Madu was outlawed.
	But this is an important point.
	Chuck Todd was on TV, on MSNBC, which is hard to tell the difference between NBC and MSNBC. He was on saying, you know, Democrats should really be telling the candidates to stop campaigning so people can pay attention to this riveting impeachment thing.
	And I thought, like...
	These guys are living in a world that simply doesn't exist.
	And the thing is, the voters aren't.
	The voters live in a world that doesn't exist.
	The voters do not care to wits about this impeachment nonsense.
	Not to wits, because this is all baked in.
	Every single iota of it is baked in.
	It's a sham.
	It's annoying.
	Impeachment is next up on the docket, because I have a theory, and also I have a brainstorm session that I think I want to stall.
	Participate in, and I think that the audience will find it amusing.
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	So I want to talk about impeachment.
	All right.
	Nancy Pelosi said today that they will move forward with impeachment.
	Unpredictable.
	Unpredictable.
	Only Andrew Klavan thought that they wouldn't?
	No, no, I didn't think they wouldn't.
	I still think there's a possibility they won't actually get away with it.
	Do you really?
	You're crazy.
	Small.
	From the man who said that Donald Trump's Rocky Balboa picture was genius, comes his take on impeachment.
	That was a real photo, by the way.
	The thing I want to talk about is what should the Republican strategy be when this goes to trial in the Senate?
	What I've been reading as far as what McConnell and what the Trump administration are thinking...
	I think they are missing it by a mile.
	I'm horrified that they're going to run this the way that Trump and McConnell want to and blow the greatest political opportunity of a lifetime.
	So, they're talking about Trump wants to wrap it up in two weeks.
	Oh, that's a mistake.
	Have it be super short.
	Get it out of the way.
	No, no, no.
	I'm for Cocaine Mitch's House of Horrors.
	They should drag this thing on.
	Until election day.
	Oh my God, that's so true.
	I just don't know, is there anybody in the Senate trolly and delightful enough to understand what this opportunity is?
	Cocaine!
	Cocaine!
	Speaking of Sly Stallone here, I think that Lindsey Graham does have a shot.
	Lindsey Graham 2.0.
	He's been pretty trolly ever since the last years.
	And Cocaine Mitch is a...
	A genius.
	I mean, this is...
	Cocaine Mitch is a good job.
	He's good at what he's got at.
	No, this is really what I think.
	I think it's going to be Cocaine Mitch's house of horrors.
	They're going to go in there.
	They're going to call every witness.
	You know, they're going to subpoena Joe Biden.
	They're going to subpoena...
	And remember, you know, John Roberts, who is...
	You know, you don't have to like him, but he is a sort of...
	He's the worst.
	He's going to preside over this in a fair way.
	Nobody's going to be able to say he's cheating.
	But what we're hearing from the administration is that they don't want to do this.
	They want to get through this as quick as possible.
	I cannot believe they would do that.
	I can't believe they're that stupid.
	I want them to subpoena Schiff.
	I want them to subpoena Schiff's phone records.
	I want them then to publicly release Schiff's phone records.
	Absolutely.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	That's the whole point.
	And besides, this means that Elizabeth Warren is going We have to be in the Senate.
	You know, I mean, this is an amazing opportunity for them if they blow this Republicans.
	And the timing here is pretty interesting because when they announced the formal official impeachment inquiry, it looked like Joe Biden was collapsing, right?
	It looked like he was not going to get the nomination.
	Now things look a little bit different.
	Joe Biden is at the center of this whole impeachment probe.
	They're going to try to get him to testify.
	He's going to refuse to testify.
	That's going to be a wonderful week of stories.
	They're going to drag that derelict Hunter Biden.
	That's going to be a great week of stories.
	The Democrats have so miscalculated.
	Although, I think maybe the calculation for McConnell is that if you think that Trump's best shot is basically just look at the Democrats.
	Don't look at Trump, look at the Democrats.
	Then getting this thing over with and just saying, okay, look at the Democratic candidates.
	They're all awful.
	That might be the strategy here.
	Just get past this.
	Put it back on Elizabeth Warren.
	Put it back on Buttigieg.
	We're not going to do the impeachment stuff because then the focus is on Trump and then it's all on Ukraine and all this kind of stuff.
	Also, you do run a risk with Joe Biden of having the sort of high dungeon moment played up by the media where he gets up there and he says, you know, I have one son who died of brain cancer and I have another son who's gone out there and tried to make something of himself.
	Yes, he's had difficulties, but for you to attack my son in order to come after me in 2020.
	Right.
	I mean, I mean, there could be...
	Listen, we'll all know that a lot of that's BS, but Biden can play that game.
	It's a high-risk, high-reward strategy, is what you're saying.
	And McConnell is kind of a low-risk dude.
	But then Biden bites John Roberts' finger in the hole.
	I mean, Joe Biden is legit corrupt.
	I mean, this thing with Hunter Biden was legit corruption.
	You know, I'm not going to go quite that far, because what I actually think with Joe Biden is that he's a dad of a crap zone.
	And I think there are a lot of parents who look the other way on their crap kids.
	And I think that's really what this is.
	It doesn't feel like...
	I don't necessarily...
	Do you bring your crap kid on Air Force Two and fly him over to China?
	A lot of people do, yes.
	A lot of people...
	People do prop up their kids.
	People prop up their kids.
	Well, they do, but it is corrupt.
	When you're the vice president, you can't do that.
	And when you have a guy, you know, this was a, Trump is right about this.
	This was a genuinely corrupt thing to do, to have this guy, you know, basically taking a sinecure for 50, what was it, 50 grand a month?
	60 grand a month.
	The question isn't whether Hunter Biden's corrupt.
	I mean, I think we all agree that Hunter Biden's a piece of crap.
	I mean, Joe Biden just found out he has a grandkid he didn't know he had until Wednesday.
	Like Hunter Biden, it's pretty obvious.
	By a stripper, right?
	Well, he was dating his late brother's widow, and he's still married to his wife.
	As one of the only people who didn't vote for the president, you guys don't have any room to make these arguments.
	You have any stripper argument you have.
	Game over, guys.
	A Christmary lapsed Presbyterian versus Hunter Biden?
	I don't know.
	I still go for it.
	But this is the thing about Trump.
	This is the thing that gets me.
	The language they use about Trump is so high-pitched.
	But the things they get him on, like he said something untoward to the president of Ukraine, and you go like, really?
	Yeah.
	I mean, this was perfectly obvious when you watched the law professor's testimony yesterday, where you had Jonathan Turley, who's basically, he's not a Republican, he doesn't like Trump.
	And he's saying what is obviously true, which is, you guys do not have the statutory requirements for bribery, for obstruction of justice.
	Like, there's no crime here.
	And it's very obvious there's no actual crime here.
	It's obvious that, like, Democrats overreached here.
	Democrats had a strategy that actually could have played for them.
	They could have just done this whole thing, and then they could have brought forward a censure motion.
	It would have been very difficult for Republicans because on the one hand, you don't want to look like you're tutting Trump's bad behavior.
	On the other hand, if you cross Trump, he's going to tweet about you and he's going to be mean to you.
	And so that would have been a smart strategy.
	They would have gotten some bipartisan support.
	That's right.
	They would have gotten five or ten Republicans to peel off and vote in favor of censure.
	And then in the Senate, you would have gotten Romney to vote for censure and Susan Collins to vote for censure and a few others to vote for censure.
	That's right.
	But by going for impeachment, because the overreach is so dramatic, everybody now has an excuse to go, This is not impeachable.
	This is not even close to impeachable.
	And watching them trot out a person who was too liberal for Barack Obama's Supreme Court pick to make jokes about Barron Trump in order to go after...
	This guy, Noah Feldman, was that his name?
	Yeah, from Harvard, yeah.
	He wrote a piece praising Sharia law in the New York Times.
	I read it on the air today.
	There's no way around it.
	It's a piece of sophistry saying that Sharia law is essentially better than Western jurisprudence.
	That's who they bring in to tell us that, you know...
	He also wrote a piece from the New York Times Magazine in 2017 talking about all the different ways to impeach Trump in 2017.
	Yes, that's right.
	That's right.
	So, I mean, it's perfectly obvious what they were doing here.
	And so that's why when Nancy Pelosi got up there, her dentures are moving and started talking about how President Trump...
	We were seriously considering whether or not to do this.
	But then these law professors testified and my mind was blown.
	Yeah.
	And then James Rosen says to her, so this isn't about you hating Trump.
	And she goes, as a Catholic, I'm so insulted.
	Yeah, you and Mother Teresa...
	You know who she reminded me of in that moment, you guys?
	You know who she reminded me of?
	Jesus.
	There's some idiot, by the way.
	That is a reference.
	There's some idiot on Twitter.
	Yeah, Christopher Hill said that he...
	Novelist-wise, I'm looking at Nancy Pelosi, and to me, she looks like a person in a vice.
	I saw that press conference, and I thought, that looks like a woman who has been pushed off a building, is falling, and it's like, how's it going?
	Okay, so far, you know?
	She looks like she's in a panic.
	I mean, she has been pushed into something.
	She couldn't even string together a complete sentence when she was asked that question.
	Yeah.
	I mean, people clipped it so you only saw the end when she was in very high dungeon.
	As a Catholic, I'm very insulted.
	By the way, one of my pet peeves, and I'm not a Christian, but as a Jew, when people do this, it drives me up a wall, and you're the Catholic in the room.
	As a Catholic, I have to imagine it's sort of annoying when a person who's in favor of abortion on demand, men becoming women, and governmentally sponsored same-sex marriage is going, as a Catholic, I'm offended that you used the word hate.
	With regard to me and President Trump.
	And then she's like, I'm praying for Trump.
	Yeah, I imagine so.
	I imagine that every night Nancy Pelosi gets down on her knees in her room and puts her hands together and prays for the health and happiness and repentance of Donald Trump.
	She's praying, like, please kill this man.
	No, no, I think she does, but the problem is that she can't get back up.
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	Michael, you had something to offer about Nancy Pelosi?
	Yes, on your point.
	Go Catholic.
	Go Catholic.
	Nancy Pelosi should be excommunicated for her participation in abortion.
	Other people have been excommunicated for this.
	You saw there was a priest just the other day who withheld the Eucharist from Joe Biden.
	It's an unbelievably brazen move to say this today.
	She said it because she was desperate, and she said it because she knows the bishops don't have a backbone.
	Yeah, I was amazed that she went there, honestly.
	And then the media just gushing about it.
	Oh, she stood up for herself.
	Slay, queen!
	And I thought, you know, last time there was a Catholic who was being attacked, and he was being attacked for no good reason at all, and he got angry.
	They were like, unfit!
	His name was Justice Kavanaugh.
	He was currently sitting on the Supreme Court.
	He was slandered with allegations that he raped somebody on the basis of no evidence.
	Mm-hmm.
	And he got mad about it because somebody suggested that he was a rapist and he got angry and they're like, he got mad!
	He shouldn't be on the Supreme Court.
	Somebody said to her, do you hate Trump?
	And she's like, I'm so offended as a Catholic that you would say I hate anyone.
	I love everyone, including the little children, at least the ones who are born.
	All the other ones who die.
	But...
	But you know who Brat Kavanaugh doesn't remind me of?
	I think that, Drew, you brought up the fact that she looks like she's on the ropes.
	I think you're right.
	I think that she knows that her legacy now is going to be that she presided over the impeachment of someone for nothing.
	And that not only is it going to end in nothing, it's going to end very likely in electoral failure for them.
	And not only that, they're so far over their skis, I'm not sure that Adam Schiff hasn't broken the law pursuing this thing.
	Well, that's what Jonathan Turley's point was really well taken, that first of all, they're setting a standard that Republicans, as we know, and Republicans will do this, they'll go after the next president who's a Democrat.
	Yes.
	On the same grounds, and no one will be able to say them nay.
	And the fact that the press will rush to their defense, to rush to attack them, is not going to wash.
	Turley was really good.
	You know, he sounded like an American...
	It was like this lost voice of America.
	A guy saying, I don't like Trump, but that's not the point.
	The point is the Constitution.
	He was being a lawyer.
	Right?
	I mean, everybody else up there was being an activist.
	And I understand that, ooh, they have magic degrees from Harvard.
	Well, guess what?
	Yeah.
	Look, if we were impressed by that...
	Come on.
	And the fact is that what he was saying, that there is no statutory crime that's been committed, and that the dead giveaway, the Democrats have nothing, really the dead giveaway, is that in their little impeachment document that Schiff put together at a moment's notice, There was a charge for obstruction of justice.
	Now to understand how idiotic this is, you really have to understand how subpoenas work.
	So the press are under the wild misimpression that if I am a member of Congress and I subpoena you and you say no, you have now violated the law and obstructed justice.
	This is a lie.
	There's a whole third branch of government.
	It's called the judiciary.
	And if I subpoena you and you say no, and then I go to the judiciary and I say no, you need to show up.
	Or you go to the judiciary and you say no, I don't want to show up.
	And then the judiciary says no, you have to show up.
	And then you say no, I'm not coming.
	That's obstruction of justice.
	That was Turley's Right.
	That's exactly Charlie's point.
	He was being a lawyer.
	And the fact is, the fact that Democrats even put that in the document is demonstrative of just how empty and stupid this entire thing is.
	They're grasping at straws.
	I mean, that quote from Schiff over the last 48 hours, where he was asked, why don't you just wait to talk to, you know, like the actual people who are in the room?
	So far, they've interviewed, what, eight, 12 witnesses, something like that?
	Only one has ever had a conversation with Trump.
	It was Gordon Sondland.
	And Sondland did not provide them the evidence they needed for intent, requisite to commit bribery.
	In fact, what did he say?
	He said, I spoke to Trump on the phone, and Trump said, no quid pro quo.
	I want no quid pro quo.
	Right, exactly.
	And so he didn't give them what they needed.
	They could wait.
	They could wait for Giuliani.
	They could wait for Mulvaney.
	They could wait for Bolton.
	They could wait for Pence.
	There are a bunch of people who talk directly to Trump about this specific issue.
	They could wait for it.
	And they asked Schiff about it.
	And Schiff's take was, well, we don't need to wait for the facts.
	Yeah, you're damn right you don't need to wait for the facts because you understand you ain't got nothing.
	And not only that, they know that after a certain point the electorate is going to say, well, you know, the election's coming up.
	Why can't we decide?
	But that's what the Democrats don't want.
	That's the whole thing they hate about Donald Trump is that he is the guy who was sent by basically the forgotten people.
	To say, you know what, here's a guy, you know how you've been calling us racist and you've been calling us sexist?
	Here's a guy who's going to call you names.
	Well, you know, there are two amazing quotes from Democratic congressmen that show you the whole impeachment game.
	One is Adam Schiff, who said, Trump poses a grave threat to the country if we wait for all the facts to come out.
	I don't have any facts, as you pointed out on Twitter today.
	And the second one is from Representative Al Green, who said, I fear that if we don't impeach this president, that he will get re-elected.
	And that's what they're really worried about.
	By the way, can we note for a second, I mean, it's a change of topic, but I just want to note that the fall of Elizabeth Warren has been wonderful to watch.
	Oh, yeah.
	But in the last month, her poll numbers have just got, like, she climbed gradually, and her descent has not been nearly as gradual.
	I mean, it is a steep descent, the more people see of Elizabeth Warren.
	The less they like her.
	And you know what you can trace it?
	You trace it to that health care release.
	It shows such a lie.
	The Democrats have been saying, we win on health care.
	We win by releasing our radical health care plans.
	Well, look at Elizabeth Warren because she's been tanking ever since.
	It speaks to what you were saying before.
	The electorate looked at that and said, That's a bad plan.
	Right.
	I mean, the people who are gaining right now, like Klobuchar is gaining in New Hampshire.
	Buttigieg is doing well in New Hampshire and in Iowa.
	Biden is still leading nationally.
	Bloomberg is doing okay nationally.
	The only people who have a prayer at getting the nomination right now are people who are either quasi-moderate or masquerading as moderates.
	Those are the only people.
	And honestly, I think that's kind of hopeful for the country because my hope was it would be nice if we had two parties.
	That we're fighting at least in the realm of reality.
	I'm not saying on the right side of reality, but anywhere in the general universe of reality.
	I would rather have a Biden versus Trump election because, again, I think that Biden is not trying to fundamentally destroy the bases of the country in the same way as Elizabeth Warren.
	I think that he'd be horrible.
	I think he'd be a bad president.
	I don't want him to be president.
	But he's not nearly as dangerous as people who are out there proclaiming loudly that they're going to Rip away.
	Listen, if it's Joe Biden, we're not going to be able to say this is the most important election of our lifetime.
	Frankly, it'll be the first election of our lifetime where you won't be able to say that it's not the most important election.
	We'll all still say it, but you're right.
	It won't be a Flight 93 election.
	Whatever else you say about Trump, aside from his affect, aside from the way he talks...
	He's been a kind of moderate Republican president in terms of what he's accomplished.
	I just don't understand why her health care plan wasn't more aspirational.
	I feel like if she had come out and said, have you ever heard the wolf cry?
	People would have...
	I would have lined up just to hear the rest of the song.
	Why didn't Kamala Harris never do that?
	Really, why didn't she ever...
	I don't understand.
	I do not understand.
	For the life of me, why didn't she ever turn to Elizabeth Warren on that stage and say, listen, it's a black woman in America who's experienced discrimination, had to live in a time when the vestiges of segregation were still present in America...
	How could you, Elizabeth Warren, claim for 30 years of your career that you were a member of a put-upon minority group when you experienced every benefit of white privilege?
	Like, how has no one in the Democratic Party done that?
	Kamala Harris?
	Like, how did she never do that?
	She goes her entire campaign without doing that?
	She's not afraid to attack.
	She attacked Biden on race ground.
	Right?
	I mean, on complete nonsense.
	The trouble with the Pocahontas attack.
	Is it's now identified as a Trump attack?
	That's right.
	They have the big problem with this.
	Every time somebody says something sensible, they say, well, that's a GOP talking point.
	You think it's also the truth, you know?
	And by the way, it's effective even among Democrats, because you saw this with regard exactly to Elizabeth Warren's health care plan, is that Buttigieg would say, like, that's not realistic, or Klobuchar would say that's not realistic.
	And then somebody like Julian Castro would say, that's a Republican talking point.
	And then Elizabeth Warren would tank in the polls.
	Because it turns out that some of those Republican talking points are talking points because they're true.
	This is like the Fox News meme where they say, that's just Fox News.
	Is it the truth or not?
	Some things on Fox News aren't true.
	Some things are true.
	Speaking of Fox News, by the way, I have a friend who watched this new Fox News movie, this bombshell.
	He said it was pretty terrible.
	I have to just say, I am so deeply irritated with Hollywood.
	They've now made two separate Fox News films.
	They made one for HBO and they made this thing with...
	All of the big stars in it with Charlize Theron and Nicole Kidman.
	And have they made, has there been any production deal on a Harvey Weinstein film, which is the thing that led this entire thing?
	Not just this.
	This thing drives me crazy.
	George Stephanopoulos worked for Bill Clinton silencing women who said they were raped and abused.
	Okay, that's what he did for Bill.
	That was his job.
	Now he's the top ABC newsman.
	ABC killed the Jeffrey Epstein story during the Hillary Clinton campaign.
	Who did not kill himself.
	Yeah, we did not kill him.
	They spiked the Jeffrey Epstein story, and then went after the person who released the fact that they spiked it, not the person who spiked it.
	They didn't say, oh, we're going to find the person who spiked that story and fire him.
	They said, we're going to find the person who released the story that the Epstein story spiked and find her.
	And are you also getting to that point that came out in the new book about Epstein, that George Stephanopoulos was friends with Jeffrey Epstein?
	He went to the guy's party.
	This is an amazing thing, an amazing act of corruption that CBS fired an innocent woman, it turned out, for maybe releasing the fact that they had spiked the story.
	It drives me crazy, this fact that they were raping little girls.
	I mean, not little girls.
	They were raping teenage girls.
	And this guy was doing this en masse.
	He was doing it like a factory.
	Bill Clinton was involved.
	Prince Andrew was involved.
	These major people.
	And the press covered it up.
	And it drives me nuts.
	And they're making pictures.
	Okay, Roger Ailes, I'm sure he did bad things.
	I'll take one.
	When's the Matt Lauer movie, by the way?
	When's the Matt Lauer movie, by the way?
	And the Matt Lauer movie, too.
	It's in development, I think.
	It's not Greenleaf.
	But what's nice is at the Oscars, we'll get a bunch of lectures from Hollywood where this entire thing originated.
	Just like last year, we'll get an entire lecture about how the rest of the American people do not understand how women are put upon in this country.
	And let these people sexually harass people every single...
	We, who sexually harass women and originated the casting couch, let us explain to you, the American people.
	There's an actual sculpture...
	Of the casting couch.
	Of the casting couch at Hollywood and Highland.
	Uh...
	It's unbelievable.
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	By the way, did you see John Kerry...
	Sorry, quickly.
	Did you see John Kerry endorse Joe Biden today?
	Come on.
	He did.
	It was great.
	Which was very exciting, because when one dead person endorses another dead person...
	And it's great for me because I actually do a fairly good John Kerry impersonation.
	And so I rarely get to break it out anymore, right?
	Because he's never in the news.
	It's very sad when you actually work to craft a good impersonation.
	When you watch so much Gilligan's Island that you can totally...
	When you're like, John Kerry reporting for duty.
	I'm here to endorse Joe Biden.
	The pinnacle of the weekly standard was when Kerry got nominated.
	They just put his face on the cover and the headline was, Why the Long Face?
	Alicia!
	Speaking of people who get Botox, let's circle back to Hollywood real quick.
	I mean, seriously, that was the thing that was the most obvious to me about that Joe Biden telling that guy he was a fatso.
	The Botox is, like, crazy.
	I need to find out who his doctor is.
	All right, this next subscriber question...
	I think it's just embalming fluid.
	This next question comes from a great Daily Wire subscriber who wants to know, how is it that Hollywood can get totalitarian regimes, you know, big bad government, with dystopian sci-fi so right yet seem oblivious to their leftist political side being likely to cause that in the actual future?
	Because stories conform to reality.
	Great stories conform to reality.
	And the people who work in Hollywood are very talented, many of them tell good stories.
	And stories conform to reality.
	Unfortunately, the people who tell stories don't always conform to reality.
	So if you watch every great movie, every truly great movie has a conservative theme.
	Conservative in the way we talk about conservatism.
	Being in service to reality.
	You mean truth?
	The truth.
	That's right.
	You cannot tell.
	This is where the left has gone totally wrong, by the way.
	The left had this theory, and they've been pushing this theory since I was a kid, that there's no such thing as truth.
	There's only storytelling.
	There's only narrative.
	And people actually say this.
	They say, well, if you change the narrative, you change the reality.
	But that's not true.
	As one of the very few people on Earth who has made a living telling stories...
	I can tell you that stories are responsible to the truth, and they express truth.
	And if they don't express truth, people come out of the theater and think, that wasn't a good movie.
	They don't know why it's not a good movie.
	I think there's a reason why.
	So I've been working on a new book, which is going to come out next August, hopefully, and I'm really...
	Pumping through it.
	And one of the chief assumptions of the progressive left, and this has been true for a couple of hundred years, is the idea of unlimited human malleability.
	That if the system were just changed, everybody would become glorious.
	We'd all love each other.
	And that all of the problems in modern society, all disparities are attributable to the evils of society.
	If we would just change the system, then everybody would magically transform into angels.
	They don't believe in the founding idea that if men were angels, you wouldn't need any government.
	If men were devils, then no government would be sufficient.
	They don't believe the idea that human beings are sinful, but we have the capacity to fight our sin using our reason and our will, which is a religious concept.
	They don't believe any of that.
	They actually believe the idea that human beings are basically clay that are molded by the systems in which they live, which is a Rousseau idea.
	Well, all story cannot survive on that premise because all stories are told about characters.
	And every character that you know, every single person you know has characteristics.
	Characteristics are by nature somewhat immutable.
	James Bond has characteristics.
	If James Bond were to suddenly become incredibly effeminate and unable to shoot a gun, he wouldn't be James Bond anymore.
	He'd be not James Bond.
	And so every movie that you've ever watched is about characters who...
	Are real human beings who are human beings.
	Because every human being you know is not capable of magically shape-shifting and turning into something, at least not in terms of their persona.
	And so because human nature is fixed in movies, because it has to be, in order for characters to have character arc or even to be characters, that means that you immediately have to be living in a conservative universe.
	You know, I used to have a priest in the Episcopal Church who was a corrupt guy, and I knew he was a corrupt guy.
	And he used to say people are infinitely malleable.
	Who is his hero?
	Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
	Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who sat in New York smoking cigarettes and thinking, I have to go back to Germany because I have to face Hitler, and died doing that because he wasn't infinitely malleable.
	He had guts, and he had integrity, and he had principles, and he lived those principles out.
	So the thing is, the story of Dietrich Bonhoeffer moved this guy, but he was still capable of holding this absolutely conflicting theory, which is the theory that you say, that people are infinitely malleable, and of course they're not.
	Great question.
	Alicia, give us another one.
	I feel like I know what Ben and Drew might teach if they were professors, but this question is for all of you guys.
	If you could choose a college course in anything you wanted to teach, what would it be and why?
	Obviously, political and historical writing.
	I would probably talk about book-length works that, say, maybe teach the succinct economy of words, and I would not show up and prepare anything, and that would be the whole course.
	But I would What I would like to teach, what I would most like to teach, the thing I'm most interested in, is theology.
	And I actually do believe that I know much more about most college subjects than most college professors today.
	And yet I am in no way qualified to teach any of these things at colleges.
	That's more an indictment of the university system as we have it today.
	Drew, you got to teach at a college this last year.
	I did.
	I really had a great time.
	I mean, I was at Hillsdale, so it was a great college, and I taught about covering the culture, and it was just fascinating to watch.
	You know, the kids really responded to it.
	They really liked the course, which was very gratifying, but they liked it because I was saying things like, you know, when you read a newspaper, you can see the way they're manipulating stories.
	But if it were up to me, I would teach literature and I'd probably teach romantic poetry.
	I think that the British romantics, the English romantics were a highly important moment.
	They lived in a time very much like ours when a revolution had inspired people and then failed.
	For them it was the French Revolution, for us it's the 60s.
	They had to rebuild the world in the wake of that revolution and they still had people who were saying, like we have, Oh, the revolution was the great thing.
	And then they had guys like Wordsworth who were saying, wait a minute, that didn't work out very well.
	And they excoriated Wordsworth while he became one of the great minds of the time.
	So that's what I would just like to teach them.
	I think they're incredibly relevant.
	I think their writing is so insanely beautiful.
	And I think they were doing something really important that speaks into the moment.
	Well, the fact that Drew wants to teach poetry explains why he's still in favor of the university system.
	The only place that would pay anyone to actually teach poetry.
	Not this university.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But for me, the thing that I'd be interested in teaching about would be the ideals of the founding era.
	Because I think they are wildly misinterpreted.
	I think people lie about them.
	And I think that those ideals still provide the glue that holds the country together.
	Now, admittedly, I'm writing a book on this right now.
	So that's what's first and foremost-- - What's on your mind. - In my mind.
	But the fact is that the more you investigate what exactly was going through the Founding Fathers' head, what their influences were, what exactly were the chief ideals upon which they're resting the building of the greatest country in the history of humanity, the more you realize that these were eternal principles.
	And the great lie that the left is told is that these principles were not eternal, that they were written just for the time.
	There's a sort of historicist approach to the American founding, that all of this was built for a time You see this in the writings of Woodrow Wilson, who really talked a lot about the idea.
	But the American founding, you know, what they said about government, that was applicable then.
	But human nature has changed, and the economy has changed.
	And you see this with the left very often when they talk about economics.
	Well, the economic system has fundamentally changed.
	You hear this even from some people on the right.
	I think Tucker Carlson does this.
	The economic system has fundamentally changed because of technology and because of globalization and free trade.
	And one of the things that the founders made clear is that they were basing their philosophy not on the contingencies of historical circumstance.
	They were basing it on their view of eternal, immutable human nature.
	And that view is what provided the basis for a capitalist free market system, particularly in economics, because free market systems are not systems that are built by man to serve us.
	They are just a manifestation of the idea that you own your own labor and that you as a human being have rights that pre-exist government.
	And those rights, because they pre-exist government, are more important than the government.
	And if the government does not exist to protect those rights, the government has completely destroyed its rationale for being in the first place.
	Free markets are simply a recognition of human nature and of human rights.
	They're not a system that is built.
	And because the left believes that every system is built and because the left wants to build systems and because they've engaged in what Hyatt called the fatal conceit, which they get a bunch of smart people in the room and they can rule the world and they can put together all the smart ideas.
	That's never been true.
	It will never be true.
	And the founders knew that, which is why the system they built has been durable and successful.
	So I would like to teach about economics if I knew anything about economics.
	I will say this, though.
	I just got back from being in Egypt, and it's a very unbelievable country.
	If anybody has the opportunity to go, you should.
	It's safe.
	They had the revolution back in 2011.
	Their tourism has really suffered.
	But the military and the police do a really good job of making sure that American tourists are safe to visit as long as you stay in the places you're supposed to be.
	And you see these monuments, 5,000.
	I mean, you can't really wrap your head around.
	And I... In another forum, I have an awful lot to say about it from a religious point of view.
	I had a lot of great kind of realizations there.
	The fact that Egypt is so central to Judaism, is so central to Christianity in ways that I think Jews and Christians sometimes omit, miss.
	Those are things that, again, in another forum, it'd be a lot of fun for the four of us to talk about.
	But I did have an economic realization when I was there because, you know, it's at the intersection of the Middle East and Africa.
	It's a country where the military owns everything that has value.
	And so the average person lives in third world And if you've ever visited the third world, there are a lot of things that all third world countries have in common.
	One of them is there's literal garbage everywhere.
	There's rubble everywhere because no one is invested in improving their surroundings.
	People have a kind of hopelessness, a kind of fatalism, and they don't take those kinds of actions in third world countries.
	And the other thing that they have in all third world countries, and I actually find it Kind of a shame.
	When you talk to Americans about it, they often say that it's one of the charming things about visiting these countries, is that they have a kind of barter system.
	But you know, we haggled, oh, I bought this little Chotsky, and we bartered for it.
	We haggled over the price.
	They wanted two American dollars, and I only gave them one American dollar, and it was so much fun.
	That is why they're poor.
	This is the thing that upsets me, is when you sort of reduce people down to being cultural novelties instead of treating them like humans.
	The worst idea ever had by man, and it's been had by almost every man who ever lived, Is that there is a fixed amount of money.
	And therefore, in order for you to win, I would have to lose.
	And in order for me to win, you would have to lose.
	And when you visit third world countries, you really experience this, that in almost every human interaction, there is an element of competition.
	That they're trying to get you to do something that isn't in your interest.
	Because they don't feel that they've won unless they also feel that you've lost.
	This is why when you go into third world countries, people get killed at cell phone kiosks in the mall.
	That doesn't happen in America, because when you go to a cell phone kiosk in the mall, the cell phone says $2.99 on a price tag.
	And if you say, hey, I'll give you $1.99, the guy goes, no, I mean, it's written right there, $2.99.
	That forces you to make a moral decision, really.
	Not a moral, but a value-based decision.
	Is that phone worth more to me than the $299 that are in my pocket?
	The $299 in my pocket are worth more to Verizon than the phone, which they have.
	And therefore, when you enter into that transaction, everyone is made richer.
	Verizon got what they valued more.
	I got what I valued more.
	We're both happy.
	But when you go into the third world, one of the things that happened to us, we were at the pyramid, somebody came up, they wanted to sell me this hat.
	My friend, my friend, my friend.
	No, thank you.
	But my friend, only one dollar.
	No, thank you.
	I don't need a hat.
	My friend, my friend, for you, only one dollar.
	No, I appreciate it.
	Then he just put the hat on my head.
	And now he wins.
	Because he put the hat on my head.
	I have engaged in the transaction.
	I wasn't strong enough to beat him.
	And now he holds out his hand to get his $1.
	He is happy because he won and I lost.
	He's happy because he was able to force me to engage in a transaction that I did not want to take part in.
	And he got his.
	I lost.
	He won.
	And I think when, you know, because you're an American and you actually just want to kind of move along and take a picture with a camel...
	So you just give the guy the dollar at a certain point?
	You're like, whatever, dude.
	I got plenty of one dollars.
	Here, have one dollar.
	You move about your business.
	He walks away thinking, these Americans are so weak.
	He let me put a hat on his hand and extract from him the $1.
	What he doesn't understand is that, no, I am completely flush with $1.
	I could buy these hats until Santa Claus comes down to me.
	I'm lousy with Egyptian hats.
	I'm lousy with $1.
	And the reason I'm lousy with $1 is because I don't believe in your idea.
	That economies are fixed.
	That money is fixed.
	I don't believe that I have to lose in order for you to win.
	And because of that, we've created the entire modern world.
	And I only bring all of this up basically to humble brag that I was in Egypt.
	But I also bring it up because you see it in America.
	And you see it more and more in America.
	You see it sometimes with immigrant communities.
	If you go to a car wash or something that's owned by first generation Americans, sometimes they'll pull this You know, how much for a car wash?
	For you, my friend.
	And I'm like, no, we're not friends.
	No for you, my friend.
	How much does it cost?
	I just want to determine whether or not it's worth my investment.
	And I want you not to be one-up in me.
	I don't want you to feel like you want.
	I want to decide whether or not I give you money and you give me service.
	But you don't just see it with first-generation Americans.
	The entire premise of almost every candidate at these Democrat debates is this premise.
	No, I agree with you.
	There's an article in the New York Times today...
	Yes.
	In which Elizabeth Warren was saying that taxing rich people will be good for the economy just because you're taxing them.
	She literally says in the piece, you don't have to spend the money in any way.
	Just hurting rich people is somehow going to help the economy.
	This is going back to the idea of stories and truth.
	Because money is a story.
	About the truth of value.
	And so it's infinite.
	There's infinite amount of money if there's infinite value.
	And what they don't understand is it's a kind of idolatry.
	What idolatry is, is taking the story for the fact.
	That's what it is.
	It's taking the idol for the god.
	It's taking the money for the value.
	And once you understand that these things represent a truth, and the truth is immutable, then you're actually in a whole new world.
	And when you stand...
	In Egypt, when you stand at the foot of these monuments that are 5,000 years old, that literally defy imagination, it's actually fairly humbling.
	Because what it tells us is, mankind was capable of doing this 3,000 years before Christ.
	Well, if they got Shapiro's ancestors.
	When Cleopatra looked upon the pyramid...
	We think of Cleopatra and the Sphinx and the pyramid.
	When Cleopatra looked at the pyramid, it was older to her eyes than Cleopatra is to our eyes now.
	It would be shorter for us to get to her than it would be...
	They were capable of doing this 5,000 years ago, and then the bad idea set in.
	And that culture has not created anything in the last, really, 2,500 years.
	Why?
	Why were they capable of creating the greatest wonders that the world had ever known, and now it's just rubble and ruin and tragedy?
	And it's because of this bad idea.
	You can only extract so much value before you run out of value.
	Extractive value has a limit.
	Non-extractive value has no limit.
	Created value is limited.
	I'll tell you one more thing about being in Egypt.
	Hold on, were you in Egypt?
	I was in Egypt.
	When I was in Egypt, Egypt, and I was in Egypt, my Netflix account got hacked.
	What?
	And when you live, even I, who only sort of am tangentially involved in public life, the first thing you think is, oh crap, what have I been watching?
	What's my history going to reveal?
	What's going to wind up on the internet?
	I was watching the Irishman, weren't you?
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	Ben and I actually hosted him at one of the very first political events that we had at our first failed website, which is a precursor to this, are enormously successful.
	He co-stars alongside me in a new film called No Safe Spaces.
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	Everybody here has seen the movie.
	If you watch it slowly, if you don't take a bathroom break, you will see Jeremy Boring himself, lowercase g, lowercase k, God King, walking the halls of Congress beside the guy they were pointing the camera at.
	As your co-star in this movie, I would point out there are about 30 frames of this film where if you squint really hard, you can see me.
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	Yeah, but Adam Carolla, on the other hand, the whole film's lousy with Adam.
	The film is called No Safe Spaces.
	It was made by our friend Justin Folk, who's a terrific, talented director.
	He, in his own way, is the godfather of our business because he created some of the very first Andrew Wilson videos.
	No Safe Spaces is opening up nationwide in theaters tomorrow, and Adam is here to talk to us about it.
	But first, we're going to show you this delightful trailer.
	You have the right to remain silent.
	Anything you say will be used against you.
	You are not listening.
	I want your job to be taken from you.
	A protest has turned violent at California, Berkeley.
	This is why we're fighting for the soul of America.
	You should be able to share ideas without fear of being fired from your job or shouted down.
	You are not to be heard.
	This is one of the few things one could say we have no precedent for in the United States.
	You have the right to remain silent.
	The only way we separate the good ideas from the bad ideas is to be free to say whatever we want about them.
	Anything you say will be used against you.
	It's a fantastic film.
	It opens tomorrow.
	And Adam, thanks for stopping by and talking to us.
	Thanks for having me.
	How did you just materialize?
	Yeah, it was amazing.
	Incredible.
	Jeremy, you've gotten so much more handsome.
	I want full Dr.
	Bombay, if you guys remember watching Bewitched.
	In the middle of a polo match.
	Remember that?
	He's always somewhere.
	Tell us a little bit about the film.
	We've all had the opportunity to see it and love it, but the audience obviously hasn't.
	I'll tell you a little inside baseball story that was reminding of when I was thinking.
	We spoke in front of Congress at the same time, and Ben is an A student, and I am...
	I'm a horrible, wretched student from North Hollywood High.
	But you get older, and you get successful, and you think you have some nice cars, a nice home, and a nice bank account.
	You think, you can do this.
	And I flew out on a Wednesday night, red-eye kind of thing, landed.
	We had to hit it early in the morning.
	And of course, I was going to work on this on the airplane.
	But I had a few drinks.
	What are you going to do?
	I watched three episodes of T.J. Hooker, like fell asleep, and then he showed up the next morning, and there was Ben, like typed pages, single space, a minute a page, and he was like the A student, and I had a Steno pad with like arrows going like, no, do this one first, and like a pirate drawing on here.
	You all hate him, Adam.
	And they're like, I'm going like, what's the order?
	What's the order?
	And I go, oh, you're going after Ben.
	And all of a sudden, I was in the ninth grade, and I was a crappy student, and you were doing the oral presentation before me, and I was like, I literally was 14 years old.
	Adam, I want to know, since maybe we could break some news here, did you at least give Ben a swirly after that?
	I mean, it didn't work out exactly like it probably worked out in high school, which is I gave the A presentation, and he made everybody laugh, and nobody gave a credit.
	Right, yeah.
	And no girls.
	It all worked out.
	He sort of held one up.
	I didn't know why.
	It's in the congressional record and everything.
	Yeah, he knocked it out of the park, like didn't inhale his entire thing.
	No commas or pauses.
	And I remember going, come on, dude.
	Yeah, but I got a few laughs and made up.
	And I did.
	I did what I did in junior high, which is I'm not prepared.
	I don't have the material.
	But if I can crack a couple of jokes, maybe I'll get a C-.
	I sat behind both of you and I thought, there's only one guy here I want to be friends with.
	Yeah, he's in business with the other one.
	Yeah, no safe spaces.
	Well, just a chance to work with Dennis Prager for me is awesome.
	And you guys all know.
	He's such a great guy just to sort of hang out with.
	It's almost like when the cameras start rolling, it's like, oh, we can stop kibitzing about whatever fun stuff we were talking about.
	So I toured the country, done some events with Dennis, done his program, he'd done my program.
	And so the producer said, hey, you want to do this project with Dennis Prager?
	And I was like, oh yeah, for sure.
	That'll be fun.
	And then, of course, on a real important subject.
	And if you see the movie, you know, we don't really call it a doc.
	It's kind of a film because it's got lots of reenactments and lots of different stories and animation.
	It has a lot of humor in it.
	The reenactments, by the way, are like the greatest part of the film.
	They're so good.
	So good.
	Yeah, it's a really great piece.
	Dennis, who's so incredibly humble, always says, you know, it's a great movie.
	Not because I'm in it!
	Not because I'm in it!
	He always has to do the humble part.
	It's a great movie, but we were along for the ride.
	The producers did a great job.
	Justin did a great job at directing it.
	And it's a really effective piece.
	Like, I mean, it'll move you to tears at the end.
	But also, you watch and you go, this is important.
	And the timing couldn't be better.
	And it's like, bring the kids.
	Because if you've got a 12-, 13-, 14-year-old at home and this is what's waiting for them on that college campus, they need a little vaccination.
	Have you had the chance to show the film to any sort of non-conservative audiences?
	Have you seen any people on the left react to the film at all?
	We just show it and kind of who shows up, who shows up is who shows up.
	And I think we get a pretty mixed bag in there.
	It probably leans, you know, in terms of the audience, more conservative.
	But we've gotten some good notices and some good feedback from folks on the left.
	And I think Dennis always is careful to make the distinction between liberal and left.
	I think that's one of his more brilliant observations.
	I think we all think of ourselves as liberal in a sort of classic sense, but the left stuff is not liberal.
	It's sort of the opposite of liberal.
	I have to think that a lot of people who Sort of traditional Democrats in this country who may not agree with us on a lot of social issues, may not even agree with us about tax policy, but would still be pretty appalled that what they thought college was supposed to be about, which is this exchange of ideas, maybe even getting in a little trouble with your ideas, trying out some ideas that maybe as you get a little older, you don't even keep them, but you test the water of what you're going to believe.
	And that just isn't happening on campus right now.
	It seems like it's not being allowed at all.
	That's so funny because I was just doing a Martha McCallum show and she was talking about diversity on the campus and the math teacher getting in all the scrum and everything.
	And it's like diversity, diversity, diversity.
	Yeah, but only in skin color, not in opinions, not in ideas.
	I mean, isn't the ultimate diversity the diversity of opinion?
	This notion of like we're looking for diversity.
	So it's a whole bunch of different colored people who think exactly the same way.
	That's your definition of diversity?
	That's the opposite.
	And there's something, Ben, you'll be glad I say constantly, into the microphone and then toward the heavens when I'm alone, which is, in the doc, in the film, when you go to speak to Berkeley and they have the vice chancellor or something, and he says this, and this is something I think is important, where they go, the guy goes, I disagree with everything Ben Shapiro has to say, but I agree he has the right to say it.
	And I'm always like, you don't disagree with everything Ben Shapiro has to say.
	As a matter of fact, if you do, then you're an idiot.
	Because most of what Ben Shapiro says is correct.
	There's a small...
	Subsection of stuff that has to do with faith, religion, and history, and your personal beliefs and things like that.
	But most of the family, the country, the education, the pay the taxes, like be a good neighbor, you agree.
	And I think there's a big problem where they go, I don't agree with anything that Dennis Prager has to say.
	You agree with 96% of what Dennis Prager says.
	If you're a normal right-thinking, I don't mean to the right, just a normal, correct-thinking person, You will agree with that.
	You'll agree with Ben.
	I think it's creating this chasm of like, we don't agree on anything.
	All right, now we're going to move forward.
	You agree on 80% of things.
	Exactly right.
	I mean, I spoke at Boston University a couple of weeks ago, and I was protested by 200 people outside doing this mass protest, calling me a white supremacist and a racist.
	And inside, I was talking about how Frederick Douglass should be on the national currency and the evils of slavery and Jim Crow in American life.
	Because they've never listened to a word.
	And there was a guy who was going around with a camera, Fleckes, he was going around with a camera asking people, so what do you know about what Shapiro has said?
	Nobody knew anything, of course, but that is what happens on campus.
	One of the things I wanted to ask you is, you know, Dennis and you occupy obviously very different spaces.
	And Dennis, you know, is sort of in our more traditional space.
	But you have that crossover with the Hollywood community.
	You have a lot of friends.
	You got started in more traditional Hollywood.
	You have a lot of friends, particularly in the comedic community.
	Have they seen the film at all?
	Have they given you feedback on sort of the theme of it?
	We had a few out to the premiere who really enjoyed it.
	And then there's some, obviously, that are in the movie.
	Kim Allen, Brian Callen.
	Yeah.
	Harlan Williams came out to the premiere, and some other names escape me right now.
	I'm going to Seth MacFarlane's Christmas party in a week, so maybe I'll sneak a Blu-ray in and pop it in, too.
	I'll pop out his DVD of Reds with Warren Beatty, and I'll pop in.
	Woo!
	I'll pop in no safe spaces, and he'll probably be so many sheets of the wind by the time he gets in the bed.
	He might have watched it all the time.
	One of the things I've been seeing, though, is that it seems like every comedy special is now at least half directed at the extraordinarily woke.
	Every single one is directed at the overextension of the SJW mentality, of the far-left mentality that says that you can't talk to us.
	I mean, people who we disagree with a lot of the time.
	But are beginning to realize that the left has pushed too far on this sort of stuff.
	People who you're friends with, but would never have a conversation with me.
	Even Seth MacFarlane, the guy's made his entire fortune basically on pushing the envelope of free speech, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think there's a saturation point.
	I think you're seeing it with a lot of the comedians pushing back.
	I think that Dave Chappelle, Bill Burr had one, where you're seeing...
	It's comedians' job...
	To sort of be the canary in the coal mine, or the bellwether, or the divining rod, or whatever the metaphor is.
	So comedians have to sort of take in what's going on around us in society, the milieu, the zeitgeist, you know, like bring it in.
	And then, wait, why was I such a bad student with all those big words?
	I'm going to sue Walter Reed Jr.
	Hunt.
	We did go to the same Jr.
	Hunt.
	We did.
	It's our job as comedians to kind of feel what's going on and then push against it.
	So if there's too much this, we're going to have to give that.
	And when you feel the pushback, that means the comedians have hit their saturation point.
	And once the comedians hit the saturation point, they'll be the first people on the beach.
	You know what I mean?
	They'll be the first out of the Higgins craft.
	That's how comedy works.
	Do you lose, not to get too personal, but I mean, do you lose friends in Hollywood by doing the things that you do, by saying the things you say?
	No, just jobs.
	But none of those guys who were going to hire me, my friends.
	No, I honestly, I was laughing with my wife there because I had like another documentary, not get into Sundance and whatever.
	And it's just, you'll never, I'll never, nothing with my name will, I make documentaries all day long.
	None of them are getting into Sundance.
	Nothing I do.
	I said to my wife, I said, this Adam Carolla is never getting into Sundance.
	I'm going by Nome de Plume.
	I said, my new name, Jules Dash.
	And she said, I don't even know if that's a man or a woman's name.
	And I said, Arbitrary categories.
	I have been a fan of yours forever, and I was an early reader of your prophetic work in 50 Years We'll All Be Chicks.
	When I watched the movie at the premiere, even I was shocked at how crazy it's gotten.
	I was in college not that long ago.
	I'm only half joking because all of those jokes have sort of come true.
	Do you feel vindicated?
	Yeah, but I think I have to die to really realize that feeling, because all I do is sort of, as a comedian and a sort of junior psychologist, all I do is try to see what's happening before it's happening.
	I mean, that's all comedians do.
	Do, is kind of feel what's going on and get there before everyone else does.
	And so, 10 years ago, I wrote In 50 Years, Walby Chicks, because I felt all of this coming.
	And if you read the book, we will...
	It is...
	All these things are touched upon.
	And it's kind of your job to be a little soothsayer or a little Nostradamus-y if you're plugged in.
	Because you can kind of...
	Like, you'll see things like...
	You study things.
	You study the Torah.
	I studied daytime TV commercials.
	When I was a kid, and I'd stay home from Walter Reed Junior High in 1977, every daytime TV commercial was, you want to drive a truck?
	I'm Wally Thor.
	We go to the school of trucking.
	In two weeks, get your Class C license.
	Every commercial that was on Wednesday at 1 o'clock was, drive a truck.
	Small appliance repair.
	For the women, it was learn to work in a doctor's world.
	I don't know, a secretary or something.
	So it was all, get a job.
	Get a job.
	You're unemployed.
	You're home during the day.
	Get a job.
	Now, every daytime commercial is a class action lawsuit.
	Did you have some pubic mesh explode or something?
	Were you exposed to chalk?
	Were you in like the towel?
	You can sue for that?
	You can sue.
	And then it gets into like a wrongful termination, discrimination at work.
	And I was laughing with Mark Garagos the other day.
	I said, my kids' kids are going to be home watching TV and Mark Garagos III is going to come on the television and go, has your boss asked you to do stuff today?
	Because I think we'll be there by then, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, well, it was not in 50 years.
	It was in five, right?
	Yes, we made it.
	I mean, you have a whole section of that book, which it is the funniest book ever written.
	It's so funny.
	The whole section of the book where you talk about your son and the expectation that if you're not a homophobe, then you will engage in sexual congress and a member of the same sex.
	Right.
	There are articles regularly now about how if you are a biological male and you do not wish to have sex with a biological male who identifies as a female, then you're gay.
	So if you won't actually have sex with a biological man as a biological man because he identifies as a female, this actually makes you a homosexual.
	Right.
	Yeah, this is so liberating.
	Yeah, the thing that's funny I always sort of crack up about That in 50 years of all the chicks is because I said in 50 years and it started happening about four years after the book was published and that was 10 years ago.
	But I always say like, you know, in all those climate movies where the earth's going to be enveloped in tidal waves and the thing, there's always that scene about 18 minutes into act one where it's like, Dr.
	Fessbender, what's going on?
	Like, I was way off.
	Yeah.
	You said we had 30 years.
	We have until Wednesday!
	It's Wednesday!
	There's always that sea emergency way off.
	That's the way I feel with that book.
	I said 50 years.
	I meant 20 minutes.
	So the film is No Safe Spaces.
	It is in theaters nationwide tomorrow?
	Yeah, nationwide.
	A couple hundred theaters.
	You can go to nosafespaces.com.
	And, you know, I think it's a movie that if your audience who is watching, who doesn't get a lot of movies for them, so to speak, and everyone gets preaching, everything's...
	All anti-fracking docks and everything like that.
	It's a little something for you.
	It's definitely important, by the way, for everybody to go see it.
	I'm just going to put that out there, that when people actually make films that are not catering to the hard left and directed by Elizabeth Banks, you should actually go see those films.
	Especially if they're good, if they're entertaining and fun to watch.
	That was said when I said not by Elizabeth Banks.
	That was incorporated.
	This film is actually hilarious.
	Seeing the reenactment of young Dennis Prager in his early life in Moscow is worth the price of admission.
	And since four of the five of us at this table do star in the film, you would also be doing us a great courtesy and making Drew and Steve Lee Jones.
	My name is misspelled in the thanks.
	I always like to say K-L-A-V-E-N. Yeah.
	Perfectly appropriate.
	Well, we know you have a hard out.
	Thanks for spending time with us.
	Thank you, guys.
	This was fun.
	Let's do it again soon.
	Sooner than later.
	Oh, do I get up?
	Let's just end this damn thing.
	Pull a plug.
	Thanks, everybody.
	I don't want to be here.
	Thanks, everybody, for tuning in to The Daily Wire backstage.
	We're going to do it again probably in a month or so.
	And we're going to, if you stick around a little bit after, head over to dailywire.com.
	If you are an insider, we are going to be doing a discussion.
	We are.
	Yeah, with the four of us.
	Even Ben's going to be in it, and he'll be in a little bit better mood once he, you know, has some more popcorn off the floor.
	Thanks a lot.
	We'll see you next time.
	Fake laugh in three, two, pfft.
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