This is a really big day. I’m honored. I’d like to thank the Academy. The Southern Poverty Law Center has named a video I did for Prager University, in which I attack the Alt-Right, the “most egregious” PragerU video of all-time.
Then, actor and comedian Tom Arnold will stop by to talk about his new show on Vice, which focuses on that strangely elusive Russian golden showers tape Democrats insisted they had on Donald Trump. We’ll discuss how sorry it is that Democrats have nothing to run on but smoke and mirrors.
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The Southern Poverty Law Center has named a video I did for Prager University in which I attacked the alt-right, the most egregious PragerU video of all time.
It's an honor.
Meanwhile, the left is breathlessly reporting frivolous nonsense.
We will analyze some of that, but only later in the show.
Because first, and I'm also honored to have this, actor and comedian Tom Arnold will stop by.
To talk about his new show on Vice, which focuses on that strangely elusive Russian golden showers tape Democrats have insisted they have on Donald Trump.
We will discuss how the Democrats are running on smoke and mirrors.
I'm Michael Knowles and this is the Michael Knowles Show.
All right, let's get right into it.
We have Tom here.
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He is an actor and a comedian.
You know Tom.
You've seen him alongside Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie True Lies and a million other things.
You've seen him alongside ex-wife Roseanne Barr, probably recently in the news, and in a bunch of other movies and TV shows.
Tom is now doing a show with Viceland in which he gets down to the real important issues facing the country.
That elusive golden showers tape from the long discredited Democrat-funded Steele dossier.
Here is the trailer.
Donald Trump saying, quote-unquote, grab them by the pussy.
Talking about 16-year-old girls and their underwear here, okay?
Spewing racial slurs on the set of Celebrity Apprentices.
President Trump denies any involvement with prostitutes.
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Tom, thank you for being here.
Okay, that was strange.
Well, here's my first question.
Because as with many things in the Broom Closet of the Ben Shapiro Show, we'll fix it in post.
Right, right.
My first question for you.
This is a show, as people will have seen now in post-production, this is a show.
Let me explain something to you, young man.
A golden shower is, there's a difference between a golden shower and a, and also there's a difference between a hooker and a model.
So that's a red herring, sir.
There was no golden shower.
There was a model urinating on a bed because Donald Trump doesn't like Barack Obama.
Would you agree that Donald Trump doesn't like Barack Obama?
I agree that half the people in this room don't like Barack Obama, because we're very lucky to have Vice joining us today to be filming this for part of the show.
Usually it's 100% of the people in the room.
Have you ever had someone urinate on a bed because you don't like Barack Obama?
Is that the level of dislike from Barack Obama that you have?
Well, it never occurred to me.
My level of dislike for Barack Obama was such that I would even vote for Mitt Romney to get rid of Barack Obama.
Well, that's interesting.
My first question, this whole thing is about this text.
By the way, I just interviewed David Korn, and because of him and his dang tape recording, having that waiter tape record, Mitt Romney, we could be in the second term of Mitt Romney's presidency right now.
That's true.
You're right, that is true.
David Korn gave us Donald Trump.
He gave us Donald Trump.
Do you have the tape?
Do you have the Russia urination on the bed Barack Obama tape?
I'm 100% sure it exists.
How are you sure?
You don't have it yourself.
I don't have it myself, but I'm also sure the Steele dossier is 100% real.
But even Democrats now are saying that Steele dossier is, I mean, we know demonstrably some of it isn't true.
First of all, can we agree on one thing?
Democrats are idiots.
Can we agree with that?
Not all of them, but you know.
Right, right.
Once the cameras go off.
Not all of them.
Not all of them.
And Republicans are morons.
Can we agree with that?
Well, I can agree with the first part more easily than the second part.
Let me say something about Donald Trump.
And I love the way you talk about him.
You talk about him like a second grader talks about Santa Claus to toddlers.
You're like, guys, come on.
He doesn't go to every house on Christmas Eve.
That's a story.
Yeah.
It's a story.
But yet, I'm going to tell you about Donald Trump.
He is outside of Macy's telling everyone he goes to every house on Christmas Eve.
He really does.
He's that crazy.
Well, he has been giving us wonderful gifts since he was inaugurated.
In that way, I think he's like Donald Trump for Santa Claus.
This is my question.
So you don't have the tape, but you're sure it exists.
Yeah, well, I lived in the Moscow Ritz, and they do tape everything you do there.
Of course they do.
That goes without saying.
And it's kind of funny how they do it.
They brag about their technological advancements at the Moscow Ritz, and the irony there is because they're recording everything you're doing.
Right.
Did you know that he went to a pee-pee party the summer before in Las Vegas, and he went to a pee-pee show, and I have a picture of him doing that the summer before that.
Michael Isikoff, in their book, there's a picture of him doing that.
So the groundwork was laid.
He went to a show where a woman peed into a champagne flute.
There's a picture of him doing that the summer before this.
But here's the thing, Tom.
Russian roulette is the name of the book.
You love books.
Please read that book.
I read them.
I write them.
I don't use words.
Yeah, you do.
I know that's so funny, the book you wrote.
Thank you very much.
It's funny.
What a waste of paper.
Trees and stuff.
Trees are an organic, renewable resource.
I'm saving the environment by printing that book.
You have amazing hair, son.
Stop it.
You're going to make me blush.
You make a lot of these claims that the tape exists.
The Democrats have been looking for this tape.
We know the Democrats funded that Steele dossier.
We know a lot of it has been discredited.
Did the Republicans start it?
I know the Democrats really funded a lot of it.
We know that both Republicans and Democrats have used Fusion GPS for opposition research.
Yeah, of course.
But the Steele dossier...
Are you saying it's not accurate?
The Steele dossier?
Absolutely it's not accurate.
We know that...
How do you...
What's not accurate?
Give me something.
I'll go through points by points.
So in the Steele dossier...
This is quoting from the Steele dossier.
The Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting, and assisting Trump for at least five years.
Aim endorsed by Putin has been to encourage splits and divisions in the Western alliance.
Now, that would bring it back to 2011.
You don't think that's true?
It can't be true.
But what's going on right now?
By the way, what about the news this week with our alliances and the G7 and what's going on with Trump and Canada, the split in it?
What's going on?
It's not true about that.
Literally, with what Trudeau and Trump and our alliances and what's going on with Germany is absolutely true.
All of our allies, we're not getting along with them.
We're getting along very well with them.
He's sucking up to North Korea and Putin and China and not our allies anymore.
That's exactly what's happening, brother.
Under the Obama administration, our allies paid far less for their involvement in NATO than they do under Donald Trump.
Seriously?
Yeah.
Even though both Barack Obama and his predecessor encouraged our allies in NATO to actually pay their fair share.
So that's really what it's about.
Yes, it's about us working together with our allies, which we're doing.
Okay, that's good news to know.
Because that is what's happening.
That doesn't matter.
There's nothing a Steele dossier about, oh, they're going to pay more money.
Those words you just read are happening right now in real time.
Okay.
Here's some pretty strange ones.
So here's another line from the Steele dossier.
Okay.
It alludes to the existence of a Russian dossier or compromat on Hillary Clinton is confirmed by Source B. She or he confided in a trusted compatriot that it had been collated by Department K of the FSB for many years.
Okay.
Except the Directorate K, which is an infamous part of Russian intelligence, doesn't do intelligence on foreign leaders.
Okay.
That SVR does, FAPC does, but not Directorate K. So it just doesn't add up.
Okay, first of all, I'm not even sure what you just said, but if they got something about Hillary, get it.
Because get her and she should not be president anymore.
That means nothing.
Let me tell you something.
The first thing you read is absolutely true.
Because there is...
Everything you said...
So you're saying that Russia predicted in 2011 that Donald Trump could become the President of the United States?
Vladimir Putin being the only person on earth who predicted that Donald Trump could be the President of the United States?
No.
When Donald Trump said that Barack Obama was not born here, he started the birther campaign in 2011.
People rose up and supported him.
Did anybody seriously think that he would become the President in 2011?
I know in 2013 when Vladimir Putin called his room in Moscow, Ritz Carlton, and Donald Trump put that call on his speakerphone.
And some people I know that were with the Miss Universe contest, and he said to everybody, I want you to be the president.
We will support you in any way we can.
But this is the problem, Tom.
You hear all the time.
Well, he is the president, and this is happening.
So, yeah, so let's stick in the moment here.
But here's the problem.
The question has been, we have these tapes.
Then it was, well, we don't have these tapes, but someone has these tapes.
He just cited with, he gave stuff to North Korea that's just unprecedented.
What did he give to North Korea?
He said, okay, no more war exercises.
When is the war game scheduled?
The war game's not scheduled.
No, but you heard his words.
You heard his words.
I know you're coming for Santa Claus.
Santa didn't really need that.
Tom, when is that war game scheduled for?
It's not scheduled for a full year.
I know, you're being practical.
You should be the president, but you're not, for real.
I got the Tom Arnold endorsement for president.
No, but he is out of his mind.
I know, first of all, I know him.
I've been to the Playboy Mansion with him.
I wasn't the creepy guy.
I've known him 30 years.
I wish you were president.
You're a smart, analytical kid.
You know, I'm glad you're around, you know, but he's insane, okay?
But I wonder, we always hear he's stupid, he's insane from people who know him.
He's exactly as he was 30 years ago.
But he keeps being successful.
And this is my real question.
Wait a minute, is he successful?
We are losing everything.
Every day we risk losing everything.
There's people propping him up.
I'm not saying you.
I'm saying you're like, oh, no, what he really means.
No, he is that batshit guy.
But look at the actual facts on the ground.
The actual facts are, let me tell you something, he's a straight up racist.
Look at his policies.
Look at his policies.
What policy is racist?
They're ripping people from their mothers, children from their mothers at the borders.
It's not, it's a policy.
They're deporting illegal aliens.
No, no, no, no, but there's a cruelty to it.
But what's the racism?
Michael.
Where's the racism?
It's always brown people.
I'm telling you.
Brown people are crossing the border from Mexico.
That's true.
But do you think if it were white people crossing the border that they wouldn't be deported?
That we shouldn't enforce immigration law?
I'm telling you, there's something about it.
I'm telling you that it's there for several countries.
I'm telling you there is a difference.
There is a difference.
Are you saying Haiti is some lovely metropolis that we should all move to?
No, no, no.
I get what you're doing.
The point is...
I know the guy, too.
I spent time with the guy.
It is different.
There's no reason to rip babies from their mothers.
Period.
Anywhere.
Anywhere.
There's no...
So you're saying there's no reason to deport illegal aliens?
No, no.
There's different...
That's different.
That's a red herring.
That's different.
How's that different?
We're talking about deporting illegal aliens.
We're Americans.
We don't do that.
We're better than that.
We don't enforce our immigration law because we're Americans?
We have humanity.
There are ways to do things and we're better than that.
But don't you think that Americans have a right to determine who gets to come in and out of the country and use our taxpayer-funded services and commit crimes in the United States?
And we can do it the American way because we're better than that.
What's the American way?
With humanity and with respect.
So you're saying don't deport illegal aliens?
I'm saying you do.
You absolutely do.
You do it the right way, the American way, and you treat people with respect, and you treat people well, and you don't rip people apart, and you don't use that.
You're talking about those images of the kids in the cages and all that kind of stuff.
No, no.
I'm talking about literally what they're doing.
Right, but Barack of all the...
Are you a father?
Well, it's a big country, and it's a wise man who knows who his father is, but none that I know of.
No, I said you're not a father.
Well, if you were, just imagine your son being taken from you.
If you could imagine that feeling.
Yeah, I don't want my son to cross illegally into another country, too.
And I wouldn't do it on his behalf.
No, no, but you don't understand.
Once you're a parent, you'll understand.
There's something inside of you.
I'm not going to illegally enter another country so that I don't please myself.
I'm sorry.
I don't mean to be disrespectful to you, but you don't know what the f*** you're talking about.
Until you're a parent.
Once you're a parent, you can't even imagine.
I know plenty of parents who oppose illegal immigration.
You absolutely oppose.
There's just a humane way of doing things.
Do you think that the people who voted for Donald Trump, half the country, That they're racist, deplorable, irredeemable?
No.
But they voted for a racist.
I can't possibly.
They voted for racist policies, according to you.
Listen, that would be as bad as me being you and saying, oh, it's about making a blanket statement like, oh, you can't deport illegal aliens.
No, humanity.
You have to have humanity, especially when you have to think about where on the earth is one planet, okay?
Do you believe in God, for instance?
Yes.
Okay.
Then take a step back.
If you believe in God, so you think God is like, deport people!
Deport people!
No humanity!
No humanity, Michael Knowles!
No humanity!
These are the laws!
God is God of perfect justice and perfect mercy, which is very difficult for us, but we know from St.
Paul's epistles that the civil authority is endowed with a right to enforce the law.
Isn't that right?
First of all, I'm Jewish.
So tell me about mercy.
Tell me about the mercy at the border of taking babies from their mothers intentionally to be punitive.
To be punitive.
And these mothers are escaping domestic violence to get to America, the land of the free, the home of the brave, just to get an opportunity to save their children's lives.
And tell me about Jesus.
And I saw the Jesus documentary that Mark Burnett made.
If you want to read the book, it's a good book.
Well, I've read the first chapter, or the first part.
What would Jesus think about all this?
For real.
What would Jesus think about the civil government enforcing the law?
Well, I'll take it from his apostle that it is perfectly right for the civil government to enforce the law.
Hold on, what do you think about these money guys, these billionaires?
Well, I don't know how many billionaires there were at the time.
Let's talk with your heart for a second.
Babies being yanked from their mother.
Is there not a better way to do this?
What is the better way?
First of all, we're not deporting little babies and letting the mothers stay.
The babies go to Honduras, but the mothers stay in America.
That's not what happened.
Babies go to Chicago.
Don't tell the mothers where they are.
It's unacceptable.
Listen, we can do better.
We have the most charitable immigration regime in the entire world.
No, no, no.
We have the highest foreign-born population.
You run this better than they do down there.
You know where that monitor is?
You got a better crew here.
People, listen, they don't know what they're doing down there yet.
Tom, we apprehend over a thousand people a day crossing illegal into this country at the border.
And as Donald Trump correctly said, bring in drugs and bring in crime.
Listen, I worked in a meatpack and plant for three years.
We bred Hormel, Meatpack and Plant better.
They don't know what they're doing yet.
Let's tell you, they just changed the policy.
They don't have things set up.
They don't have housing set up.
We do.
We had hog refinement facilities better than they do down there.
We have housing.
I'm telling you, you haven't been there.
I'm telling you, the people down there, now they're talking about setting up tents.
It's a freaking 100 degrees here.
They don't have things set up.
Tom, do you know what makes that so hard?
We apprehend a thousand people.
They're kids.
They're human beings.
Hold on.
They're human beings.
We would not allow our pork and cattle to be treated like this right now because legally you can't.
You have to have certain kind of facilities.
Right now they're just saying, well, we have somebody.
How many people that we apprehend at the border every day do we just send right back to their country?
As probably we should.
Do you know how many people we do that to?
Zero people.
You know what would help you guys for a second?
And I know the bleeding heart liberals, I know it can be bullshit, I know they're way over the fucking top, but for a second, and can you not think that way because you think it would be going against Trump?
For a second, can you not go into humanity?
I think Americans have a right to their own democratically enacted laws, bipartisan laws, to decide who comes in and who comes out.
We have the highest rates of immigration until recently because it's dropped under Donald Trump.
But we have the highest percentage of foreign-born population in American history since 1890.
Under the best of circumstances, assimilation is difficult.
Under these sort of circumstances, it's virtually impossible.
80% of women and girls who cross the border...
You know, Italians...
Excuse me, Tommy, let me finish this point.
No, no.
Think about this.
We hated Italians.
Everybody hated Italians.
Americans did not want Italians here.
No, no.
They were scorned.
They were the scum of the earth.
You probably don't remember this.
Your parents, your grandparents would tell you about this.
They did not want Italians here.
And just read the history.
I know you've read books.
And they were scored, and they were looked at upon, and it was awful.
Tom.
It was awful.
According to Amnesty International and the Huffington Post, not exactly right-wing outlets, between 60 and 80 percent of women and girls who cross the border illegally are raped and sexually assaulted.
What is compassionate or merciful or humanitarian about encouraging a regime, encouraging human traffickers who bring those women and girls across the border and rape them along the way?
That's a red herring.
It's a red herring.
60-80% is a red herring.
It's a red herring.
But it's what we do when they get to the border.
To rip their children apart.
We need to take...
That's our policy to scare them to go back.
We're going to take their children from them.
Tom, I don't think there's a federal statute to rip children away from them.
No, it's a policy.
Will you look into it for me?
Will you do something about it with me?
Will you?
Me and you.
If there's a federal policy to rip children away from their mothers.
To take the children away from their parents.
There has been suicides of the parents because they couldn't find their children.
Well, when people do get to the border, they do have to be processed.
That is certainly true.
There's no national policy to...
There's a four-month-old child that was taken from her mother yesterday.
Will you at least investigate this with me?
Horrible things happen because of illegal immigration.
That's why we need to stop illegal immigration.
Okay, so you're not denying it's true.
No, I'm actually saying it's much worse than you're saying it is.
I'm saying illegal immigration causes many, many more problems than you're saying it is, which is why we need to cut off all incentives for it and enforce our immigration laws and have people follow...
But we could do better.
We could do better.
Well, it's easy to say these slogans, right?
And it's easy for this innuendo.
This is the question that I want to get to.
Because right now, the economy's going gangbusters.
It's doing better than it ever has.
No, no, no, for rich people.
For rich people, for corporations...
For, you know, whatever.
Everybody just got a tax cut.
The economy's doing very well.
The stock market.
You can say that, but it's never the best.
To pull my friendship here off, facts don't care about your feelings.
Black on a button at historic lows.
But your feelings, these people, you've still got to care about people.
But we have to acknowledge reality.
This is reality.
It's not your reality, but you're responsible too.
But there's only one reality, Tom.
No, no.
Oh, no, that's not true.
You have to accept there are other realities.
If you think your reality is the only one...
I think we've explained the Democrat-Republican divide.
No, no, there's not even Democrat-Republican.
Well, there's one big reality.
Well, Trump, you said defend a guy who's a complete alternate reality.
Donald Trump, I think he's...
He lies every day, 50 times a day, and then you explain it for us.
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You're telling me, this explains the show, because I've never seen that Trump urine tape.
And Democrats, it seems to me they are distracting from all of the good things that are happening in this country with innuendo and implications and the fantasies of other realities that are fantasies.
Well, it is true that we are far apart, because I guess we feel like you're...
Totally over here with the fantasy that Donald Trump is infallible.
I don't think he's infallible.
When have I ever said he's infallible?
I say he's a very infallible man.
Let's meet in the middle.
Okay, Dave, one thing that he's absolutely lied about.
Well, I think Donald Trump talks like a New Yorker, so I'll give you an example.
Oh, that gives him an out.
Well, no, but it's a real acknowledgement.
Okay, give me an example.
So the example is this.
Donald Trump says, oh, we had the biggest crowds ever for this.
We had 60,000 people at such and such a rally.
Now, in reality, maybe the rally only had 30 or 40,000 people.
I'm willing to acknowledge that.
The way New Yorkers talk is a little hyperbolic.
He goes out, he says, you know, this is the most tremendous thing that's ever happened in the history of the world.
I don't Maybe it's not the most tremendous thing that's ever happened, but it's a hyperbole, and it leads into an exuberance.
I don't think that's the kind of lie as saying, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, which the former president, Barack Obama, that's a terrible lie.
The 3,000 lies, you don't think that man has straight up lied to the American people?
What has he lied about?
Everything.
When he said, my rich friends are really mad about this tax break, it will not help them.
It raised taxes on people in New York and Los Angeles, on me, and on people in the highest income bracket.
It raised taxes on them.
It raised taxes on me.
It raised taxes on you, I'm sure, too.
It did, because he hates me.
All the trillions of dollars that are coming back into this country, that are overseeing.
We have repatriated money from this country.
The trillions of dollars.
We've repatriated jobs as well.
We know this.
There's a new announcement every week.
My family will not benefit.
They have not going to benefit from me.
Well, you won't because you're too rich, Tom.
I won't benefit either.
His family, Ivanka, Jared, they will not benefit from working in my administration.
How have they benefited?
$82 million last year that that family benefited.
Well, yeah, the Trump organization is still in operation, sure.
The Trump organization is still making money, obviously.
They personally made.
How much money did Barack Obama have going into the presidency and leaving the presidency?
Okay.
Did he have more or less?
$3 billion?
Barack Obama was the frickin' president of the United States.
He wasn't a small senior advisor.
How much, okay, let me ask you this.
How many times did Barack Obama golf, and how many times did you complain about it?
I don't mind.
I never complain about the golf.
You know who did?
Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump said, I will never golf.
He's golfed 10 times more.
Do you ever call him out on his...
How many times he calls other people out on it?
This is actually getting to the central point of your TV show and my criticism of the premise of the TV show.
Here's the central point.
I don't trust him negotiating anything for us.
I think that Donald Trump is a Russian asset.
I don't think he knows it.
What's your evidence?
I don't think he knows it.
What's your evidence?
He's in love with Putin.
Putin does have something on him.
What is your evidence of that?
He won't let us investigate.
He won't let us follow through.
They meddled in our election.
He's done everything he can.
How did they meddle in the election?
They spent $100,000 on Facebook ads for one digital company.
Do you not listen to our own intelligence?
What intelligence are you referring to?
Because I'm citing the $100,000 of Facebook ads.
You are privy to it because it's the NSA, the CIA, and the FBI. They've shared all that with Donald Trump.
But how did they meddle specifically?
Because it's easy to use.
I'd love to tell you, except I'm not privy to it either.
They are 100% certain.
I can tell you how the Russians meddled in the election.
By the way, they fixed the election for Donald Trump.
It's not like they just spent $100,000.
He's an illegitimate president, and he knows it.
And that's why he's fighting this.
He is not the president.
He doesn't deserve to be the president.
He is not the president.
He's an illegitimate president.
I know.
Everything he accused Barack Obama of, that's him.
He's not the president.
He took all our health insurance away?
I don't think he did that.
That's another thing.
He is trying to take people's health insurance away just because Barack Obama gave it to them.
Tom, I liked my doctor and I didn't get to keep my doctor because of Barack Obama.
He's going to do it again in 2018 and Donald Trump's going to make sure he doesn't stop him.
He's not protecting our ballot boxes, our voting machines.
He's going to let Russians We should do it again.
Listen, the Senate had a hearing yesterday, and they're freaked out about it because he's not doing anything about it.
That bothers me.
Voting is a basic tenet of our people.
That's why Republicans are trying to protect the integrity of the ballot box.
Why didn't they show up for that Senate hearing?
Republican senators did not show up because they're beholding Donald Trump.
Hey, Tom, if you want to protect the integrity of the ballot box, do you think that people should have to show an ID to vote?
I think you should protect us from Russia, number one, not from Americans.
Protect us from outside.
Listen to John McCain.
Is John McCain a patriot?
Usually not great advice.
Is John McCain...
Really?
Really?
I'll take John McCain over Donald Trump or any of these guys.
I know.
Left winners much prefer John McCain to conservative Republicans.
That's true.
That's very true.
Hey, buddy, if you're not taking John McCain as a patriot, a man has stood up to...
Yeah, he's a patriot.
He's a patriot.
But I don't like his political views.
Really?
I don't.
I think he wanted to gut the first amendment.
But I'll tell you what, when the goal gets tough and the guy says, you know, here's the line versus outside forces, it's John McCain.
The guy that's proved it every time.
Better than you or me or Donald Trump, who's put himself on the line for this country, it's John McCain.
Okay?
Yes.
Forget politics.
He served admirable.
It's John McCain.
Yes.
True.
Beyond served admirably.
He did.
That's a bull**** thing to say.
He served very admirably.
He lived in a f***ing cage for five and a half years.
Yeah, extremely admirably, sure.
But that doesn't mean that his political views have much stock in that.
I'm not talking about politics.
I'm talking about he's an American patriot that put himself on the line.
And this is what it's like, because they're going to screw around with our vote.
It's the most important thing.
And you're about, oh, you want to take away votes.
Oh, you've got to show what I need.
I want to take away legal votes.
I'm talking about Russia.
Keep them out of our election.
But Tom...
What are you doing to keep them out of our lives?
You want to keep people of color from voting by showing IDs or old people?
When have I ever suggested...
You want to make it harder for people to vote.
I want to make it harder for Russians to vote.
You know, Tom, that is a real accusation.
You're saying I want to keep black people from voting.
Well, you see how many people can't vote.
You said it, Tom.
Who do you not want to vote?
Americans.
I don't want Russians to vote.
Well, really, I don't want Democrats to vote very much.
Right, okay.
But I think everybody has the right to vote.
Why are you trying to stop Americans from voting?
Stop Russians from voting.
Tom, I want people who have the right to vote to be able to vote, and I want people who don't have the right to vote to not be able to vote.
But it's such a stupid thing.
Two people out of a billion vote more than once.
You're making a big deal out of it.
You think there are two illegal votes cast every year?
Yeah, I think that's stupid.
Look over there.
Stop Russians from voting.
Put your energies to that.
This is a bullshit argument.
You're spending all your time trying to get Democrats so they can't vote so you get your idiot Republicans in office.
No, no, I want them to be able to vote.
No, you just want to suppress black people and Republicans' votes.
That's what you do.
You know, that's a big accusation.
Well, it's a fact.
It's an absolute fact.
You know it.
What is your evidence?
Facts?
Look at facts.
How many 20...
Look at...
Tom.
It's a fact.
Look at Ohio.
How many people you stopped from voting that are people of color because they are Democrats.
You're right.
Tom, you're just saying things that are fantasies.
No, no, I'm saying they're facts.
Why don't you stop Russians voting?
Put your...
Be an American.
I don't think a lot of Russian nationals voted in our last election.
I don't think anybody suggested that.
Oh, but they were here campaigning.
They were here pretending to be...
They were lobbying Hillary Clinton to purchase 20% of the American production of uranium.
That's true.
Even Fox disproved that.
Disproved what?
Shepard Smith.
I'll send you the clip on it.
What did that disprove?
Red Herring.
What did Fox disprove?
Red Herring.
You know that.
Tom, you can interrupt and distract and use profanity all you want.
I didn't know if you could.
Can you use profanity?
Well, we'll edit it in post.
I'm sorry.
We'll edit it.
But Tom, you can distract and you can change the subject and you can interrupt all you want.
That doesn't change the reality of the situation.
Do you know who Sergio Milan is?
He's a source D in the Christopher Steele.
I'm supposed to find out if you know who he is.
He's the guy who's in the room for the peepee stuff.
So the Steele dossier, because we've been talking about the Steele dossier.
The Steele dossier paid for by Democrats.
And lied about by Democrats.
And lied about by Democrats.
What do you mean they lied?
They lied about their involvement in it.
But it's all true.
Until just a month before the election.
It's all true, though.
But we know that some of it's been disproved.
You care if it's true?
We know that it's been disproved.
By who?
No, no, no.
You can't say that.
It's been proven.
I'll keep going, then.
I'll prove it.
Isikoff and Korn have proven it, and I have a guest.
Let's go.
We're going to keep going on this, then.
We'll really prove it.
So, let's see.
What do you think Christopher Steele's a hero?
This guy came to the aid of the United States.
He's worked with us.
I think he's a foreign interloper interfering in our elections.
That's what I think he is.
They're called allies.
Ironically.
We called allies.
You know our greatest allies.
So, who do you think our allies are?
Zhang Kim...
Eel or whatever.
Kim Jong-un?
Little rocket man?
No, seriously, who do you think our allies are?
Our allies are our allies.
We have a lot of allies around the world.
Oh, I suppose Italy.
I'll use my own heritage for a moment.
France really likes us now.
The French Premier Emmanuel Macron loves Donald Trump.
But he also said, Donald Trump, don't be...
Do you give any statement this week?
Hey, buddy, back up.
Israel is an ally of ours.
They're very happy with us now because Barack Obama...
Turned on our ally.
Barack Obama isn't in the news.
He doesn't ever say anything.
Why are you dogging him?
What is it about that guy?
What is it that you guys feel you get blaming stuff on him?
What's different about him?
He was a terrible, terrible president who damaged the country immensely.
That's why we keep talking about him.
No, I think there's something else about him.
There's something about him Yes, he was a far left-wing Democrat who damaged the country, who destroyed a sixth of the economy, who had the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression.
You're aware of the economy when he took over.
Will you give him that?
Because you know facts.
Do you remember the economy when Barack Obama took over?
There was a financial crisis.
No, no, no.
Don't, don't.
And he had the worst recovery since the Great Depression.
Almost a depression.
Resided over it.
It was almost a depression.
We've been in two wars.
Give him that.
Give him that.
No, give him that.
Come on.
It is true that the vast majority of American soldier deaths in Afghanistan occurred under Barack Obama's watch because he was a wartime president who created more wars in the Middle East.
Come on.
Come on.
You're a smart kid.
Give him this.
He was the first black American president.
You remember that.
That's a big deal in this country.
What you're saying is the people who oppose Barack Obama are racist.
That's what you're saying.
No, no.
But this country has slavery.
Give him that.
We've been through a lot in this country.
There was slavery in America.
Acknowledge that that's a big deal.
And we went through Jim Crow.
Acknowledge that.
Don't overlook it.
Who denies that slavery was a bad thing?
But you have to acknowledge that we went through a lot.
So it was a big deal for all of us when he was elected.
I wish he'd been a good president.
It would be nice if the first black president were a good president.
Take a moment.
Because you seem like an a** when you talk like that.
When I mentioned that he was a terrible president?
No, no.
To not take a beat and go, you know, that's a big deal.
And he did, that was a huge, to take just one side and go, the economy was a crapper.
He was awful around the board.
He lied to Americans repeatedly.
He was terrible on foreign affairs.
He was terrible on domestic affairs.
That's a very sad thing that the first black president was so awful.
Hold on.
You need to take a beat.
You need to take a beat.
Take a beat.
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So, my final point on this is all that we've heard about.
We don't see the left making TV shows about the terrible economy or TV shows about the terrible foreign affairs or the TV shows about all the terrible oppression going on in the country because...
They couldn't.
None of that is happening.
All we're seeing shows on are Stormy Daniels, the porn star, and the elusive tapes from a long-discredited dossier, and the this and the that.
And, oh, I heard he said a bad word on tape, or this or that.
Isn't that just because Democrats are distracting from how everything is going tickety-boo?
Good God, Brad.
You know, I guess we're all just going about our business.
You guys are making shows.
You know, you guys are hitting the same beat, too.
You just are going about...
But we're not making up stories.
Well, I don't.
You're pretending they don't exist.
You're just going over.
You're just kind of going up here.
And there are a lot of stories.
Tom, show me the tape of the Russian models urinating on the bed, and then I'll say it's real.
Show me the tape right now.
Oh, no, I've got to save for it.
It's going to be on my show.
But it does exist.
So now you're saying you do have the tape.
I'm saying it exists 100%.
Wait, no, but do you have the tape?
I'm saying you will see Trump saying, hold on, I'll tell you what you're going to see.
If you don't think Trump says the N-word, if you don't think Trump calls women all kinds of filters up, you will see that.
We have the tape of Donald Trump saying the N-word.
Do we have it?
Can we play it?
There are white I've seen a lot of white in my time.
I'm going to use that word.
Today our country has lost a true American original, my friend and mentor Robert C. Byrd.
They're a white.
Senator Byrd was a man of surpassing eloquence and nobility.
I've seen a lot of white in my time.
I'm going to use that word.
Senator Byrd was a man of surpassing eloquence and nobility.
Today our country has lost a true American original, my friend and mentor Robert C. Byrd.
Guys, was that Donald Trump or was that former Senate Majority Leader Robert Byrd, the Democrat whom Hillary Clinton referred to as her great friend and mentor?
Was that...
I think it was the demo.
When are you going to do the story about this?
This is an explosive thing.
That's hilarious.
Using the N-word.
Hey, don't you use the N-word?
It's Robert Byrne.
Everybody's using the N-word.
You've never said the N-word?
I think every...
I worked in a meat packing plant.
So you heard these words, but you...
I've heard these words.
Of course I have heard these words.
From Iowa.
Who hasn't?
My next door neighbor's dog was named the N-word.
People were like...
Of course.
So are you going to, so are you defending Donald Trump for allegedly using a racial slur in an alleged video that nobody's seen?
Are you defending him now because everybody's said it?
Yeah, I'm on this whole show.
I was to defend Donald Trump and say, Donald Trump, why?
Here's him saying the N-word.
Why?
Of course he said it.
It seems, Tom, it seems hypocritical.
When you look at Robert Byrd and Hillary Clinton using, and you yourself say everybody's used these slurs.
You realize she's not the president, though.
You can't take her down.
Thank you.
Good lord.
That's wonderful.
But she's not the president because of Donald Trump.
Do you feel totally confident that he will not get us in some sort of war?
I think he's been incredible on foreign affairs.
Do you think he will not get us in a war, Michael?
I'm telling you, I'm asking you serious.
Do you think not one military...
Soldier will die because of it.
I'm serious.
Worse happen all the time.
I mean, we can't decide them, right?
We're on terror, we trust on us.
But I care, you know, I've been to Afghanistan, I've been to Iraq, I've been to all the places, I talk to the families, I do a lot of service work in that area.
Do you feel comfortable telling the servicemen and women and their families, America, that that guy has gotten together enough to not risk the lives of any man and woman?
Well, the military risks their lives to defend the country, and attacks happen on us.
Do you feel 100% that he's confident?
I am 100% confident that he is a much more competent commander-in-chief than we've seen in recent years, and certainly more so than Barack Obama.
I'm 100% confident of that, confident.
Do you feel he's 100% confident?
Yes, I do.
I think if you just look at his handling, we know that ISIS has been utterly militarily demolished.
We're seeing some progress being made on the Korean situation.
It's the first inning, but it's being made.
That's pretty good.
We're seeing our allies finally coming around and cooperating with international agreements.
We're seeing countries like China.
We're seeing the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, saying that Donald Trump is responsible for the surge in the global economy.
I am totally confident in this president, shocking as it is to say, on his handling of foreign affairs.
Absolutely.
And I see no evidence to the contrary.
If you're a father, you might take pause before saying that.
I'm just telling you.
I would say, okay, I'm not going to ignore those facts.
No, no.
It would be, again, like the thing at the border with the kids being taken away from parents, it would be more personal.
But it wouldn't change reality.
It does change reality.
What's your parent?
Reality changes.
Tom, we have actually hit on it.
I've got to let you go because I know you've got a busy day.
But this, we have actually hit on this.
The difference here is I'm sitting here saying, look, there's only this one reality that's happening.
And you are literally saying right now, the personal is different than the reality.
There's the subjective reality.
There are multiple realities.
That explains it.
That explains the show.
That explains the Democrat campaigns for the last two years.
More than that.
Tom?
All right.
Great to have you on.
Thank you so much, pal.
I appreciate it.
And I really have to say this, because this is a very fun conversation.
No Democrats, no left-wingers ever come on my show, and you agreed to come on my show.
You're great.
You're great.
You're fantastic.
That really deserves something.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, buddy.
Good luck to you.
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All right.
We've got to get back into this.
So, I said this was, we're talking about a lot of smoke and mirrors here, all of the emotivism, all of the innuendo, not so much of the facts.
Listen to this from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
You know, because we could just call all the news today frivolous nonsense.
So, we're focusing on the Southern Poverty Law Center because they've named my, little old me, my PragerU video, The most egregious Prager video of all time.
And it's the video in which I attack the racists of the alternative right.
But they're really upset.
So what is the Southern Poverty Law Center?
It's this massively funded propaganda machine.
It's just this leftist propaganda machine.
That's all it is.
They have this patina of credibility because they have an interesting sounding name.
They are nothing.
They spent $10 million on fundraising in 2015.
Way more than they did on legal services.
They transferred millions to offshore tax havens.
They smeared the Family Research Council, which is a pro-traditional family group.
A gunman who shot up that council cited the influence of the Southern Poverty Law Center in his shooting.
There was mob violence at Charles Murray's speech at Middlebury.
A faculty member who was there cited Southern Poverty Law Center again as justification.
Two years ago, the FBI totally stopped citing SPLC as a source because it's so frivolous.
Probably shouldn't have nonprofit status.
Its founder is just a direct marketing guru, Morris Dees.
He was actually inducted into the Direct Marketing Hall of Fame.
Real civil rights activists call him a con man.
But he's so effective because all he does is rely on innuendo.
Just like we were talking about with Tom.
It's that exact thing.
It's all, well, what do you, you don't think this exists?
What, you, come on, don't you really think?
It's all just innuendo.
And so, ironically, the Southern Poverty Law Center has become a hate group.
They're like against hate groups and they've become a hate group.
This is what they wrote about my video from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The most egregious of PragerU's videos in Tripodi's opinion is what is the alt-right, hosted by conservative internet talk show host Michael Knowles.
The video posits that as an alternative to conservatism, the alt-right is most accurately compared with the left for three reasons.
The left and the alt-right are obsessed with identity politics, both focus on group identity rather than the individual, and both the left and the alt-right ultimately reject God.
The video ends with Knowles declaring, in other words, the all-right has nothing in common with conservatism and is in fact much closer to leftism.
Except, of course, that the left is much, much larger.
That's all they wrote.
They said it's the most egregious video, and then they just quote my video.
But they don't give any evidence for why it's egregious.
They don't give any argument for why it's egregious.
They make a blanket statement and then they just fill it in with words.
They just try to distract with frivolous nonsense, right?
It's just these distractions.
Don't you think the economy is doing well?
Don't talk about the economy.
Talk about this imaginary video that everyone's been talking about.
Well, don't you think the foreign affairs?
No, don't talk about that.
Don't talk about, right?
It's all just distraction.
And by the way, this is how Donald Trump won.
I know it's become cliche to say this is how Donald Trump won or this is how Donald Trump won.
This is actually how he won.
Have you heard about the ongoing saga of Chick-fil-A?
So right, there was an article in the Huffington Post.
It said, if you really love LGBTQ people, you just can't keep eating Chick-fil-A.
So if you really like gay people, you can't eat chicken sandwiches.
And this is what the article said.
It said, quote, if you care about queer people or you yourself are queer, you have absolutely no business eating at Chick-fil-A ever.
It's really that straightforward.
And they dinged them because Chick-fil-A donates to the Salvation Army, which is Christian, and if it's Christian, then it's bad because it's not part of the pride movement or something.
The politicization of everything is so tedious.
This base innuendo that everybody who doesn't agree with you is a bigot or a racist or a this or a that, it's so tedious and it's so divisive.
I mean, even the acronym LGBT is by definition divisive, right?
Because it keeps dividing itself.
It's LGBTQP, LMNOP, it just keeps going on and on and on to divide into smaller and smaller interest groups.
There isn't much of a common culture anymore.
You don't see a lot of common culture.
We don't watch the same TV shows.
I am going to watch Tom Arnold's show because we had him on, but I suspect a lot of our audience probably isn't going to watch his show.
We all watch different things, different movies, different news.
We read different books if we read it all.
We don't have a common religion.
We don't even have a common traditional love of country.
And this is what makes Donald Trump appealing.
Because Donald Trump appeals to the last remaining things that unite us.
I'm not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing.
I wish there was more that united us.
But he appeals to winning.
At least everybody should want winning, right?
He appeals to good deals.
We're going to get good deals, right?
Okay, that appeals to all of us.
Strength, peace, even football, right?
You know, when football, at least you think that could unite all of us, and then that guy Colin Kaepernick tried to make that divisive as well and tried to protest against the symbol of America itself, and he called them out on it.
People don't want that.
This presidency, ironically, of Donald Trump is essentially a call for unity.
Again, in his own very brash Trumpian way, you know, he says things like, we all have the same blood of patriots.
We all bleed the same blood of patriots.
What made Barack Obama so tedious, it was all just about poking his opponents, all just about dividing and dividing, talking about why men should use the little girl's bathroom and painting the White House in rainbow colors of light, right?
You know, it's so just divisive.
Writing off his countrymen as bitter clingers.
I mean, listen to that.
I asked Tom, I said, are you calling half the country racist?
And he said no, and then he called half the country racist.
That, you know, when you write off your countrymen as bitter clingers like Barack Obama did, or Hillary Clinton writes them off as deplorable and irredeemable, people don't like that.
That's not aspirational.
That's not inspired.
That's just ugly and crass and base and divisive.
And the good news for us is as long as our political opponents on the left keep that up, I think things are going to look up for us.
I mean, there's a real aspirational quality to this presidency and to this political moment.
Bill Kristol, the erstwhile Republican commentator and conservative commentator, he said the Reagan years were aspirational and Trump isn't.
He's missing it.
People are missing this.
This is an aspirational moment of coming together, of succeeding, of trying to bring North Korea to the table and we had a good first inning.
Hopefully it goes all the way to the end.
This is a good moment and the left is relying strictly on smoke and mirrors.
It is all illusion and innuendo and smoke and mirrors and And it's best just to smack it down and to ignore it.
All right, that's the rest of our show.
It's going to be hard to beat that one.
Tom is a lively personality.
But we will be back tomorrow.
We have another great guest, and then we've got some more good stuff planned.
In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.
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