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Nov. 8, 2017 - The Michael Knowles Show
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Ep. 55 - Last Night’s Big Winner: The MSM Narrative!

Democrats last night won two gubernatorial races in states that voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton last year, although mainstream media reporting would have you believe that Scipio Hillary Clintonus just sacked Carthage and sowed the fields with salt. We’ll analyze the analysis. Then, Liz Wheeler, Elisha Krauss, and Roaming Millennial join the Panel of Deplorables join to discuss the first publicly transgender state delegate Danica Roem, Stephen Hawking’s suggestion that robots might kill us all, a body guard’s complaining that Mariah Carey sexually assaulted him, seriously, and how the NAACP wants to ban the Star-Spangled Anthem. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Democrats last night won two gubernatorial races in states that voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton last year, although the mainstream media reporting would have you believe that Scipio Hillary Clintonus just sacked Carthage and sowed the fields with salt.
We will analyze the analysis.
Then Liz Wheeler, Alicia Krauss, and roaming millennial will join the panel of deplorables to discuss the first Publicly transgender state delegate Danica Rome, Stephen Hawking's suggestion that robots might kill us all, a bodyguard's complaining that Mariah Carey sexually assaulted him, seriously, and how the California NAACP wants to ban the national anthem.
I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
All right, we have got a lot of election analysis.
It's actually not election analysis that I'm going to do.
Everyone's going to do that.
I'm going to do election analysis analysis.
So it's going to be a meta-analysis.
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That's enough about capitalism.
Now we have to get to this major loss for capitalism because Democrats won last night.
Now, look, I'm probably a little older than you folks.
I am old enough to remember a few months ago when John Ossoff was the great Democrat hope.
He was running in Georgia's sixth.
Democrats put $24 million into this race.
This was going to be the Trump referendum.
They couldn't wait.
That's how every mainstream news article was billing it up in the weeks leading up to this.
And then he lost.
And then the Republican won, and he lost, sad.
This was the mainstream media coverage the next day.
Democrats were so excited about this.
$24 million in.
Here's our stake.
Here's our anti-Trump stake.
Here were the headlines.
Quote, lessons for Democrats from the Georgia election.
Did Georgia congressional candidate John Ossoff really get roasted by his opponent?
Depends how you cut the video.
John Ossoff lost, but so what?
It's all about the long game, Democrats.
Republicans avoid big loss by forcing runoff in Georgia House race.
They avoided a big loss by winning.
That's how you avoid a big loss.
All of those headlines, by the way, were just the Washington Post.
Those are all just from one.
Democracy dies in darkness, everybody.
That's just the Washington Post.
Everyone else was equally downplaying this major loss for Democrats.
And then last night, Ed Gillespie, a Republican candidate, lost in Virginia.
It's a blue state.
We all thought he was going to lose.
The polls showed that he was going to lose.
Guess what happened?
He lost.
These are the headlines.
Washington Post.
"Anti-Trump backlash fuels a Democratic sweep in Virginia and elections across the country." NPR.
"In backlash to Trump, Democrat Ralph Northam wins Virginia governor's race." That's a backlash.
That's how an anti-Trump candidate won a state that voted for Hillary Clinton that is a blue state.
CNN.
"Donald Trump was the big loser in Virginia." MSNBC. After election backlash, Trump's GOP is lost without a map.
Only Newsweek, actually.
Surprising.
Only Newsweek offered a different view, running the headline.
Quote, did Trump really win the election?
So I thought, oh, that's kind of interesting.
Newsweek is the only one that's...
No, they were talking about the election last year.
They weren't sure if Trump won the election last year.
They were so blinded by their shock and misery that Donald Trump lost exactly one year ago today that that was their headline today.
Now obviously these guys are really good at getting talking points.
I don't think it's only the Russians who hacked the DNC server.
Obviously it is going out to every mainstream outlet in the country.
That this is supposed to be evidence of the great backlash.
There's no evidence of that.
Virginia's a blue state.
It's been getting bluer for a long time.
It obviously voted for Hillary Clinton.
If you're corrupt and democratic and blue enough to vote for Hillary Clinton, probably a lost cause.
And, you know, Gillespie's a fine candidate.
He's run before.
He's lost before.
I feel bad for the guy.
He was a good chairman of the RNC. But, you know, it's a loss.
It's a loss.
No getting around it.
As Chris Donovan from ABC News points out though, Trump is the fifth president in a row to have his party lose both the New Jersey and Virginia governor houses in his first year in office.
Five in a row in both states.
That's what we saw last night.
Obviously there was never a chance the Republican was going to win in New Jersey.
That was a fait accompli.
It's also worth noting that in Virginia, Gillespie's Democrat opponent, Northam, had a vote advantage of about 260,000 votes.
So a lot of people have been...
Like, you know, when you read about natural evolution, Darwinian evolution, and all the little swamp creatures crawling out of the water onto land, that's basically what's been happening in Washington, D.C. to Northern Virginia.
So, alas, alas, too bad for Ed.
Amazing to look at the difference in coverage, though, because that was the big winner last night.
The big winner last night wasn't Northam, wasn't the Democrat in New Jersey, wasn't even the Statehouse delegates in Virginia.
The big winner was the mainstream media narrative.
What a night for them.
For the first time in now over a year, they've had their narrative justified for an evening.
Good for you.
Virginia, by the way, also elected one of the first publicly transgender candidates in the country, Democrat Danica Roam.
Danica Roam is a man who has transitioned to look like a woman over Republican Bob Marshall, a very socially conservative candidate who had put forward a bathroom bill.
The bathroom bill, you know, those awful, terrible, bigoted laws that say that men should use the men's room and women should use the women's room.
Here is a clip of that candidate, Danica Roam.
We made history tonight.
We, people in Prince William County and Masses Park made history tonight.
Because we'll now have a trans woman who can finally fix Route 28.
I spent nine years, two months, and two weeks as the lead reporter of the Gainesville Times covering my home community.
It is the time that the administration in particular and other people start trash-talking reporters and start respecting the craft because local journalism is community service.
It is public service.
And the people of the 13th district just voted to elect and send a reporter down to Richmond.
I'll always be a reporter before I'm a politician.
On the trans part there, yeah, I am a transgender woman.
We won because I am a transgender woman, because I am I'm a reporter because I am a lifelong resident of Manassas.
Because of my inherent identifiers, not despite them.
I never ran away from them.
I championed them.
And because of that, yeah, Prince William County is now more inclusive than it was before this election.
There it is.
I'm actually really shocked.
It's really a sad loss in the culture war, obviously, that the voters of Virginia would consider electing a journalist to any office.
Really upsetting.
Anybody who's worked in news like that.
It is a little strange, obviously, that for those who can't see the clip there, obviously this person is a man who dresses like a woman and has long hair.
We had Blair White, friend of the show, came on a few weeks ago and said gender dysphoria is clearly a mental illness.
It's a psychological affliction, although mental illness is probably a prerequisite for holding political office anyway.
So that doesn't bother me too much.
But all of this to say, it doesn't seem to me a shock that a state that elected a man who looks like a woman, basically on the platform of looking like a woman, would not vote for George W. Bush's Republican National Committee chairman, Ed Gillespie.
This is not, you know, earth-shattering stuff here.
There is also another point to consider, which is that Democrats are less popular, according to a recent poll, than they have been in 25 years, than they've been in a quarter of a century.
I'm a little torn on this.
CNN just did this poll, and they found out the Democrat approval rating is down to about 30%, the lowest in a quarter of a century.
But if CNN is reporting it, then doesn't it mean that that is fake news and Democrats are very popular?
I don't know.
I'm caught in a real paradox here.
According to this poll, 37% of Americans hold a favorable view of Democrats.
This is down from 45% in March.
A precipitous drop.
It's down from 62% the day that Barack Obama was elected the first time.
It doesn't seem to me a random chance or a random coincidence that the high point of Democratic popularity was the day Barack Obama was elected.
It's been sliding down steadily ever since.
Republicans are also unpopular now.
They're about 30% or 31%.
But the thing to point out here is over that same period, Republicans have never been higher than 48% approval, and yet they've won massive victories in elections across the country.
So one has to wonder...
What that says about public approval ratings, according to these opinion polls, for Democrats versus what they say about Republicans.
Republicans have been able to win major victories during this point.
Democrats, not so much.
We'll see if this election in Virginia and New Jersey has anything to say about the upcoming elections.
For that, we'll have to bring on our panel for analysis.
We have, for the first time, very lucky to have from OAN, Liz Wheeler.
We have from the YouTubes, our favorite, our, you know, she's been with us since the beginning, Roaming Millennial, and The Daily Wire's very own Alicia Krauss.
Ladies, thank you for being here.
Liz, was last night a referendum on Donald Trump?
No, I don't think so.
I don't think by any stretch it was a good thing for Donald Trump.
It wasn't a win for him, but it wasn't a win for the American people either.
We elected these radical leftist candidates.
They're left on abortion.
They're left on taxes.
They're left on foreign policy.
They're left on immigration.
It's not a win, but I think we make a mistake with all these hot takes, and anybody on Twitter certainly saw a bunch of those last night.
We make a mistake generalizing the results of these elections and assuming That they mean something for what's going to come next year.
They don't necessarily.
You talked about that fact that the five last presidents of the United States have lost both the New Jersey governorship and the Virginia governorship.
This is not as unprecedented as Democrats would have you believe.
And they also always lose seats.
They lose seats in their midterms, right?
This is just a matter of course.
The question is, how bad will it be, I guess?
Roaming, who was happier about the loss last night?
President Trump's critics on the left or President Trump's critics on the right?
Oh, I think President Trump's critics on the left, for sure.
I mean, I think they're both happy.
But what I've noticed is that the mainstream media and, you know, leftist pundits, they're trying to compare this to the, quote, shellacking that Obama received with the whole Tea Party elections during the midterms.
And it's just not comparable.
This was an off-year election.
And, you know, like you said, people are toning it as this, like...
This turnaround, we're going to see, like, you know, the resistance is coming.
No, this isn't, I don't think, representative of, you know, huge changes in voter attitudes.
I mean, Trump's only been in office for, what is it?
10, 11 months now, even though it feels like so, so much longer.
I think if we actually want to get an accurate pulse of the way the public is receiving the Trump presidency, we're going to have to wait until next year.
I mean, this wasn't great for the Republican Party, but it wasn't this huge loss either.
I just feel bad for Ed Gillespie.
I really like the guy.
I met him a couple times at events, and he's just this old-school Republican.
He's very nice.
He's not intimidating.
He's not...
Maybe that's why he lost.
Maybe he should have been a little angry.
Not enough edge.
Not enough edge.
You need more covfefe.
You've got to turn that covfefe up to 11.
Now, President Trump, speaking of the father of our country, who appears to have been president for centuries now, he tweeted out last night, he said, quote, Ed Gillespie worked hard, but did not embrace me or what I stand for.
Don't forget, Republicans won four out of four House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before.
Alicia, is Trump throwing his own guys under the bus here?
What happened to loyalty, huh?
Yes, he is.
And if he was so right, then how come his candidate didn't win in that special election down south?
I mean, hate to break it to him, but just because he endorses somebody doesn't mean that they're going to win.
Or just because someone hugs close to him doesn't mean that they're going to win either.
I think that New York and New Jersey races do not surprise me at all.
It looks like in Virginia I'm kind of a geek when it comes to the numbers, when it comes to campaigns and the turnout and the type of people that turned out to vote and how often those people vote.
And you're seeing that the GOP did not do a good job.
I think that they were counting on people, rural Republicans specifically, to get out and vote for Gillespie, and it just did not happen.
Well, in light of that race in Alabama when it was Trump endorsed the more establishment guy, Luther Strange, and Bannon and some of the Trump base were supporting Roy Moore, who stood firm on the Ten Commandments statue at the Alabama courthouse and all of that, is this evidence that the Trumpier candidate who stood firm on the Ten Commandments statue at the Alabama courthouse and all of that, is this Is there a Trumpism without Donald Trump?
Is there a base movement that he really ought to get behind that doesn't only follow him?
I don't know that there's a Trumpism without Hillary Clinton.
And I think that Virginia is a really good example of this.
I think that, and I've been saying this for over a year, you have to look at the nitty-gritty of the numbers.
You have to look at the individuality of every candidate, every precinct, and every campaign.
And in Virginia, I'm a fan of Ed Gillespie, too.
I think one-on-one he's a great guy, but he really isn't a good charismatic statewide candidate.
Yeah.
And in addition to that, you had some really tough attack ads, some horrific attack ads that we've seen that the Democrats are apparently going to continue to double down on.
And those worked in the northern areas of Virginia, where it's really all D.C. Beltway workers that live across the river and then vote Democrat.
I know, and I think love Trump's hate.
I actually never understood how they, the left, uses that slogan as an anti-Trump thing.
It would seem to me that's a pro-Trump statement where I love Trump's hate, but unfortunately didn't Trump hate last night with those ridiculous ads, conservatives mowing down little brown children in trucks, not what we saw in New York City a couple weeks ago.
How about this transgender candidate?
Liz, is it a little strange here?
Gender dysphoria is obviously a psychological affliction.
Is mental illness just an occupational hazard of politics?
What should be our takeaway from this election?
Well, I think the takeaway with this transgender candidate is, first of all, I don't care how someone identifies at all.
You can identify as a multi-gender unicorn cat if you want.
If you want to scale back the role of government in our country, then I will support you.
But that right there is the difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party.
Republicans want to elect people based off of the principles and the policies that they stand for.
Democrats want us to vote for people.
Right, exactly.
Democrats want us to vote for people on their identity.
Furthermore, this is funny to me, actually, that women's groups, especially on Twitter, I think Planned Parenthood and NARAL, some of the other liberal feminist groups, are actually celebrating this as a victory for women.
And they can't even, it's not even a real woman here.
This is a man who feels like a woman, who is dressing like a woman, and somehow that is supposed to be a victory for women.
How dare you?
I can't believe we would allow such bigotry on the show.
Now I have this Anaya Twain song in my head, which is never a bad thing.
Right, yeah.
Roaming, what is the takeaway here in terms of the culture?
Right now, people seem to suggest, the left is suggesting, that transgenderism is the new civil rights frontier.
You know, black people were excluded from many political institutions, then they were allowed in, and that was a great victory.
Women were excluded, that's a great victory.
But it is mainstreaming this sort of delusion that I mean, this is a hard issue to talk about because on the one hand, I'm very sympathetic to people who suffer from gender dysphoria.
I can't imagine what that must be like.
It's a terrible, terrible mental issue.
And I really, really think that people who are afflicted with that, they deserve our compassion.
Plus, we're all pals with Blair White.
Right.
But at the same time, I feel like people, especially on the left, the progressive group, they're trying to normalize this, you know, paint this as just perhaps even like as, you know, something like, oh, another sexual orientation, no big deal, very common, and it's not.
And what I'm really worried about this is how, you know, the, I think her, is it pronounced Rome?
I'm not really even sure.
You know, I don't have any problem.
Roaming, roaming millennial.
I don't know, you would know better than I would.
Yeah, so with her, I don't have an issue with her being transgender.
I mean, if she has good policy suggestions and she's committed to serving her constituency.
Spoiler alert, she doesn't.
Well, just that clip right there.
I mean, she made it all about identity politics.
She said that, yeah, I'm a trans woman and a journalist and I won because of that and all of that.
And I think that's really the wrong message to be sending to people that not only is Is transgenderism something that we should be tolerant of and accepting toward in society, but we should actually be actively voting for people because they are trans?
I mean, that doesn't seem like a healthy stance to take toward any mental issue, not just transgenderism.
I mean, like, I won because I have clinical depression.
That doesn't sound right.
And it's the same thing for transgenderism.
I'm not sure why we're glamorizing it.
Plus, whatever you think about transgenderism, obviously we should never support sending journalists to our elected institutions.
Right, and I'm actually upset with you because you stole my journalism joke.
Beat you to it.
To quote a great man, sad.
Okay, listen, guys, I know.
This might be the most covfefe panel I have had on in months.
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We have a lot more to talk about.
We have to talk about Mariah Carey sexually assaulting people or something, and Stephen Hawking predicting the end of the world, and It's Tuesday,
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That's right.
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They've been pretty fun, right?
Yeah, it'll be lots of fun.
And our promo that we taped was also lots of fun, especially the outtakes.
Yeah, and we got through, like, take 37.
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Stephen Hawking.
You remember Stephen Hawking.
He is predicting, quote, AI, artificial intelligence, could be the worst event in the history of our civilization.
You know, some say the world will end in wired, some say in vice.
From all the gadgets I've acquired, I hold with those who favor wired.
But if the droids are fair and nice, I think I've seen enough decay to know that for debasement, vice is A-OK and will suffice.
Roaming, should we fear our robot overlords?
Are we just Luddites afraid of change and progress?
I mean, I think we should absolutely fear our robot overlords.
If you look at any attempts at AI on the Google team, and they've had something that in the works for a while, they've actually released transcripts of the conversations they've had with this AI, and it's absolutely terrifying.
What it presents is like a nihilist view, and I guess very...
Very condescending view of humanity.
Different AIs have also referred to putting people into people zoos.
I mean, if we're creating something that's logical, fact-based, I don't see why it would have any reason to not go completely Skynet on all of us.
And I mean, if you talk to people like Elon Musk, he kind of seems to share the same views, so I'm not really sure why he's At the forefront of it all.
But yeah, I mean, I think it's completely reasonable to be skeptical of AI. And frankly, I'm not sure why so many people are launching such a big push for it.
And it is true.
When you read those conversations, they are terrifyingly nihilistic.
They are.
Which makes perfect sense, right?
Because you've created a contraption that has a version of intelligence, but not consciousness, not a soul, not a relationship to God.
So, you know, I'd probably have a pretty bleak view of we sophisticated apes running around also.
Okay.
But I mean, it's kind of interesting.
Whenever I talk to atheists, they often bring up, why would God create something that he knew was so awful that wouldn't obey him, that would kind of just go against his desires?
And I mean, aren't we doing the exact same thing with AI at this point?
Plus, also, freedom is a good per se.
Whereas a conscious being can have will and a loving God might give us freedom per se, we're just all making sex robots.
It's going to be over anyway once we get the sex robots.
I guess if they're going to shoot us too, so bad.
Liz, the tech guys are all afraid of AI, as Roaming points out, Elon Musk and all the rest of them.
Is it because they have an exalted view of technology or a debased view of humanity?
Or both?
Both.
I'm not afraid of artificial intelligence or robots.
I'm afraid of the people who are in charge of them, the people who are programming them.
I mean, taking this Stephen Hawking thing, for example, this is the man who wants to give...
He wants to make these things people.
At the same time, he can't even define an unborn baby as a human being here.
He's telling us that we're on the brink of losing the Earth to climate change and global warming, but he comes at that without a scientific fact.
These are the people to fear here, not the actual machines, the robots themselves, because that's what they are.
They're machines, they're robots.
We don't want them, we turn them off.
It's evidence, too, that smart people are so often just the dumbest people in the world.
They're extremely intelligent, but they miss essential facts about the world.
Alicia, would it be possible to stop the advancement of artificial intelligence, even if we wanted to?
Not without the Avengers.
I mean, I saw Age of Ultron.
I don't know about everybody else, but I don't know.
I'm definitely Team Elon here, and I'm not Team Elon on too much because I don't like Teslas or how they took my taxpayer-funded money to stay in the black.
That's just a cute Prius.
I don't need that.
And I'm team Elon.
Be careful of the robot overlords.
And I agree with Liz.
I don't really trust the robots themselves or the people that made them and their ability to shut them down.
But, I mean, let's be honest.
Google and Apple and everybody already knows what's happening anyway because of our watches that we wear and our iPhones that we keep with us at all times.
That's true.
Even Roombas.
They discovered even Roombas are keeping track of your housing plans.
So just can't trust anything.
Not even the beloved Roomba.
Oh, that's no good.
And when the sex robot becomes the Roomba, then we're really wrong.
They're going to have a lot of information.
I cut you off, Liz.
No, I just said that's heartbreaking, and I thought Roombas were just toys for cats.
Nothing is sacred anymore.
I am glad to hear, Alicia, too, that you're not on Team Elon mostly, because I don't care how much they try to make environmentally friendly cars seem cool.
They aren't cool.
The only cool hybrid is a Lamborghini that burns gasoline and motor oil.
Yeah.
That is a cool idea.
Nothing else is cool.
Stop pretending.
Okay, let's move on to sexual harassment.
Finally, we get a little sex.
So there's all this stuff about Kevin Spacey.
He sexually harassed some 18-year-old in Nantucket or Fire Island or who knows, like, places that are made for sexual harassment.
Crazy summer parties and all of this.
But those are the serious allegations.
Here's a much more important one.
Mariah Carey's former bodyguard is accusing her of sexual harassment.
According to page six, Carey, quote, beckoned him to her hotel room where she was dressed in sheer lingerie.
And then she performed sexual acts with the intent that they be viewed by the bodyguard.
I'm almost getting choked up reading this harrowing account of this awful assault and harassment.
I can't believe.
In 2017 America, people, though, never believe male victims.
Why do we treat male sexual harassment differently than female sexual harassment?
Well, I think it's part of our societal instinct to regard men as always being the predators, as always being the aggressors, you know, the ones who are out there looking for sex.
And then, you know, us gentlewomen folk are just the, you know, the delicate flowers who can either choose to accept or reject the advances.
I think it's very modern of Mariah to, you know, try and bridge that gap in the sexual harassment cases.
You know, it's very, very progressive.
But I think this is kind of representative of the larger problem we're seeing, Hollywood, of just abuse of power.
You know, people who are in these positions where they're, you know, they're someone's boss, they're in charge of them financially, whatever, kind of breaking that trust that exists between a boss and employer, subordinate and their superior.
And, I mean, if it's true that this happened, this is really too bad.
It's unfortunate.
And hope it wasn't too scarring for the bodyguard, because I'm not sure when exactly this was alleged to happen, but Mariah now in see-through lingerie?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Fair enough.
You know, I guess I'll take the radical position here that I don't think it is possible for a big, strong bodyguard to be sexually harassed by Mariah Carey.
I know this is radical in 2017, but there is this double standard, you know, and you always see...
But is that image not harassing to the eyes?
Well, it could be.
I haven't seen Mariah in a while.
I'm thinking of like 2002, 2003, but you're right.
I mean, 2017, that could be a lot.
Alicia, there is this double standard.
You know, the teacher, the cute blonde teacher has sex with a 15 or 16-year-old male student, and all of the guys say, oh, where were those teachers when I was in school?
But should there be a double standard?
Are male and female views of sexuality different?
Male and female views and instincts and just the way that we were, sorry, made by God are definitely different.
I think we're triggered by different things.
We're turned on by different things.
We're turned off by different things.
And I think that the study of this, the New York Times actually, believe it or not, had an interesting piece about this, that unlike other crimes, sexual predators or men that are accused of rape is very different and cannot be broken down by crimes.
Race, ethnicity, financial background, upbringing, etc.
But the two things that are typically known is that when they come to power, they feel more empowered to do things and get away with it.
And when they're surrounded by other people that are guilty of the same thing.
And I think that's what we've seen in this Hollywood culture, that it wasn't just Harvey Weinstein, it was other people around him.
And if they look at Harvey and say, oh, well, he can get away with it, why can't I? Then that kind of creates a really bad snowball effect Of one guy doing it and then another guy doing it and thinking that they can get away with it and that's what creates more victims and more predators.
And Mariah Carey.
I've never thought of lumping Mariah Carey, Kevin Spacey, and Harvey Weinstein into any bucket, you know, together.
I mean, can we claim harassment for her New York Times Square New Year's Eve appearance?
I was certainly triggered, possibly harassed.
All right, well, poor Mariah, poor bodyguard.
You know, I hope he recovers from the trauma.
Our hearts go out to him.
The California NAACP. The California NAACP is now claiming That the national anthem is racist.
According to C-A-N-A-C-P-X-Y-Z-L-M-N-O-P president, Alice Huffman, quote, This song is wrong.
It shouldn't have been there.
We didn't have it until 1931, so it won't kill us if it goes away.
All right, it won't kill us if it stays there, too, right, by that logic?
Huffman also claims that Colin Kaepernick's NFL take-a-knee protest that the message was distorted and it became about the flag.
Initially, it wasn't about the flag, and then it was distorted beyond recognition to become about the flag.
So now, in order to find something to, quote, bring us back together, she is protesting the flag.
She's protesting the Star-Spangled Banner.
The line in question that they're talking about is, from the third stanza that nobody has ever actually sung, but fair enough stanza, no refuge could save the hireling and slave from the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave.
Now, Alicia, you know that Americans don't study history ever anymore.
Um...
Before we get to what that means, did this NAACP state president just completely validate Trump's characterization of take a knee?
Right, he said it was about the flag.
Everyone said it's not about the flag.
And then she comes back and says it's about the flag.
Is the Kaepernick protest a protest of the American flag and therefore the country that symbolizes it?
Absolutely, and I think it always has been, and I think that Kaepernick and lots of people that jumped to defend him were trying to be like, oh no, no, no, it's not an insult to the military, it's about Trump, or no, no, no, no, it's not about the flag, it's about Trump.
But it just goes to show, like you said, they don't study American history and they don't understand the basics or the fundamentals of the flag or what it stands for, and that it doesn't matter who's in the White House.
The eight years of Obama, I didn't like that guy either, but I still, you know, pledged allegiance to the flag and sang the national anthem at every public event or ballgame I went to.
That's true.
Romain, you're a well-known multi-ethnic racist.
Is the national anthem racist?
No, I don't think so.
And, you know, it's kind of great because Trump will come out and he'll say these, like, ridiculous things, like, you know, first it's the Confederate monuments, then, you know, what's it going to be the White House next?
And, like, as crazy as those are, they prove him right.
It's the, you know, the most uncanny thing.
And I think with this, it really just is hysteria.
I mean, if you look at how the anthem is sung right now, there's absolutely nothing racist in it.
I mean, a stanza that's not included that most, like 99% of people I would wager don't know about versus, you know, what the anthem has come to mean to so many people across the country.
I think it is just ridiculous that they would even think that this would be a good idea.
I mean, you can say that we didn't have it before 1930.
What's the big deal?
I mean, we didn't have women's suffrage.
Just because it hasn't existed for the entirety of the nation's history, that doesn't mean that it's not important to it anymore.
I'm not sure what even argument they're trying to make with that.
Of course.
And the poem, by the way, The Defense of Fort McHenry, was written in 1814 about the War of 1812.
And on this point of the third stanza, people don't know what it means.
And I don't mean that like I know what it means.
Nobody knows what it means because Francis Scott Key, who wrote it, never told anyone what it means.
What we do know is that the British policy of impressment was a major issue in the War of 1812.
So what Brits were doing was capturing sailors and then forcing them to fight for them.
So plenty of credible historians think that that's what the slaves there are referring to.
If they are referring to American slaves, they're not referring to any old regular American slave.
They're referring to American slaves who fought for the British.
The reason I'm impressed by the impressment argument is that the first word is hirelings, right?
So they're referring to the typical British practice of using mercenary troops, Hessians in the Revolutionary War, hiring out troops from Germany and elsewhere.
So, of course, no one Certainly not this woman, Alice Huffman, but very few people who take issue with that stanza have any idea about any of the history of the song, the poem, the War of 1812, the British Army.
None of it, right?
Because why read a history book when you can just tweet out a hot take?
Liz, where does it end?
Does it end, as Roaming suggests, with taking down statues of Washington?
You know, if we're going to ban every person, place, and thing that falls short of the glory of God, then we're only going to be left with Jesus.
And look what they did to Jesus.
The only guy we'll be left with is Jesus.
Look, they didn't treat him very well.
I was just going to say...
I don't know.
I was just going to say, I don't think that the glory of God is not under attack too.
Just look at what happened after the Sutherland Springs shooting.
Liberals all over Twitter, even our elected representatives were attacking prayer.
They were attacking Christians who said that we were going to pray for these people.
The only thing that our nation can do after a tragedy like this.
Yeah, this is not about patriotism.
I'm going to go back to the point that you made About distinguishing what Colin Kaepernick's original take a knee protest was about.
If you ask any one of those players, not one in ten would actually know what they're protesting because it morphs.
It morphs from Colin Kaepernick's original protest of police brutality, which we know is a false narrative, to being about the flag because America is inherently racist and white supremacist.
The patriarchy.
And then it morphs again into just hatred of Trump.
They're gonna latch onto anything they can to take Trump down because that's what they want to do.
And if they have to instill anti-Americanism to do it, they're gonna create it wherever they can.
You know, we talked a lot yesterday on the 100th anniversary of the Russian Revolution, of the October Revolution, about useful idiots, and we see them galore here.
Useful idiots, and idiots in part not because they're unintelligent, but because they're absolutely ignorant and uncurious about the things that they're shrieking and hysterical over.
Ladies, I wish I could keep you on the panel all day.
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We have, from the YouTube's Rummy Millennial, Daily Wire's Alicia Krause.
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