MyronGainesX - Joe Kent vs Will Chamberlain Debate On Iran War!
Aired: 2026-04-10
Duration: 32:49


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[00:01:10]  How Kim Jong Un is trying to be right now.
[00:01:13]  Yeah, bro, he's trying to definitely get involved, bro.
[00:01:16]  That's a fact.
[00:01:18]  At least Miley knows she fucked up.
[00:01:20]  Yeah, but it took her too long to figure it out.
[00:01:22]  Check this out, bro.
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[00:01:25]  All right, I'll just put her up here on the side.
[00:01:28]  Let me see here.
[00:01:31]  For those of you just joining the stream, we are going to react to Joe Kent versus Will Chamberlain.
[00:01:38]  Okay.
[00:01:41]  Kim Jong un is a real life homelander.
[00:01:43]  Bro will execute you for not getting his water the right temperature.
[00:01:46]  Facts.
[00:01:47]  And in North Korea, bro, they punish you by generation, like three generations.
[00:01:50]  That'd be my name if I was leader of North Korea.
[00:01:53]  Give no fuck.
[00:01:54]  I like that.
[00:01:55]  Martin, think about how scary it is that Kim Jong un's hair is a 14 year old daughter.
[00:01:59]  Also, how would you end the North Korea conflict or the Korea conflict?
[00:02:04]  You just got to bring them both to the table, bro.
[00:02:08]  You got to threaten to not protect them and you got to threaten to not give them aid.
[00:02:11]  That's how you bring niggas to the table.
[00:02:14]  Martin, think about how scary it is.
[00:02:16]  Oh, no, hold on.
[00:02:17]  The funniest shit was when he won the election by 99.8% of the votes.
[00:02:21]  RIP to that point, 2%.
[00:02:22]  Yeah, bro, you already know.
[00:02:23]  Like, yo, whoever ran against it died.
[00:02:27]  Bro wants to launch a campaign to Katy Perry firework.
[00:02:31]  Alaskan Mexican.
[00:02:32]  Hey, Martin, my sister, 35, three kids, is divorcing her husband, 40, sales provider, sole provider, I think 80K a year, house, two kids, et cetera.
[00:02:40]  After 17 years, she found nudes of women and AI nudes on his phone, suspects porn addiction, unsure if he cheated.
[00:02:45]  He filed for divorce right after.
[00:02:46]  She says she's not happy, doesn't feel the same, and needs to find herself.
[00:02:49]  Thoughts?
[00:02:50]  Your sister's a retard.
[00:02:52]  I'm going to keep it all the way real with you, bro.
[00:02:54]  Your sister's a retard, nigga.
[00:03:00]  I know your name is Alaska Mexican, so I had to do it.
[00:03:04]  But yeah, bro.
[00:03:09]  Very stupid.
[00:03:10]  She's going to get back on the market at 35 years old with three kids in Alaska?
[00:03:17]  Yeah, okay.
[00:03:19]  Have fun with that one.
[00:03:21]  Have fun with that one.
[00:03:24]  Okay.
[00:03:26]  She's over here losing to AI bitches, man.
[00:03:30]  She needs to get back in the gym and do something.
[00:03:35]  Gucci Main dropped the Pushisi diss track?
[00:03:37]  No way.
[00:03:39]  This is interesting.
[00:03:39]  A short interview of one of the U.S. soldiers at Kuwait who experienced the Iranian missile slash drone attacks.
[00:03:48]  Wait, that nigga went on YouTube?
[00:03:51]  Or what?
[00:03:53]  Now to a CBS.
[00:03:55]  Okay.
[00:03:56]  We'll cover that later.
[00:03:58]  Imagine Trump's reaction to the scientists that invented the blissed missile winning the Nobel Prize.
[00:04:02]  Yeah, that's crazy.
[00:04:04]  Mine, did you see that Dave Smith demolished Ben Ferguson up here since Adam ran from the rematch?
[00:04:09]  No, I didn't see it.
[00:04:10]  I don't know who Ben Ferguson is, but I'll look.
[00:04:13]  Here's a link of him saying it.
[00:04:15]  Oh, I got that one.
[00:04:18]  Okay.
[00:04:18]  I think we're caught up on chats.
[00:04:20]  Ken Rose, not popular, but I agree.
[00:04:22]  The UAE, in regards to immigration, if you want the same rights as native born citizens, adopt the nature, customs, learn your language, and natural language.
[00:04:28]  Just saying.
[00:04:28]  Yeah, yeah, it's very hard to become a UAE citizen.
[00:04:31]  South Korea is completely cooked with their birth rates.
[00:04:33]  North Korea will win in 50 years.
[00:04:34]  Probably.
[00:04:35]  Is it wrong to be pro IRGC in our situation?
[00:04:38]  Because realistically, they're fighting for all those Goyams.
[00:04:40]  I wouldn't go as far as I'm pro IRGC.
[00:04:42]  I wouldn't go that far.
[00:04:43]  But I do have the wherewithal to understand that we shouldn't have never attacked and got involved in this conflict.
[00:04:50]  So, yeah.
[00:04:53]  I'm not pro Iran or pro IRGC at all.
[00:04:55]  I just am honest enough to realize that this war is stupid and we shouldn't be involved whatsoever.

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[00:07:09]  Joe Kent and this guy, Will Chamberlain, who's a stupid Zionist.
[00:07:13]  Josie gave a status update.
[00:07:16]  I don't know what this is.
[00:07:17]  You guys got to tell me what you guys are fucking posting here.
[00:07:22]  I'm putting it up on the side, but I don't know what this is.
[00:07:28]  Okay, it's a camera's ongoing thing.
[00:07:29]  All right.
[00:07:31]  All right, let's get into it, ninjas.
[00:07:33]  And Will Chamberlain, the senior counsel at the Article 3 project.
[00:07:37]  Well, welcome to both of you.
[00:07:39]  I mean, Joe Ken, a lot of.
[00:07:41]  If you guys are wondering, yes, this guy Chamberlain is one of them.
[00:07:48]  As always.
[00:07:50]  What you said when you resigned appears to have been pretty much confirmed by that New York Times report, which is extremely detailed.
[00:07:59]  And paints a picture of Netanyahu in the White House, in the Situation Room, with the head of Mossad appearing on a screen next to him, in which he laid out a four point plan for why this would work decapitating the regime, the people would rise up, they would be too powerless to shut the Strait of Hormuz, and so on.
[00:08:23]  Most of which has not all of that failed, of course.
[00:08:27]  Happened.
[00:08:28]  Because Trump is a retard.
[00:08:30]  What do you feel about the fact there's now this ceasefire, albeit it seems quite a perilous one?
[00:08:38]  Is it a recognition, do you think, by President Trump that he's got to get out of this?
[00:08:44]  I think it's a good thing that President Trump took the opportunity to enact a ceasefire and to get.
[00:08:49]  And I'm going to be, I'm going to kind of disrupt you guys right and let you guys know right now.
[00:08:53]  Joe Kent is not going to criticize Trump, just like Benny Johnson won't do it because they're pussies, I'll be honest, in that regard.
[00:09:01]  Because at the end of the day, Trump is the president of the United States, the most powerful person on earth.
[00:09:07]  He could have absolutely told Netanyahu to go pound some sand, but, you know, it is what it is.
[00:09:12]  Both sides to the negotiating table.
[00:09:14]  I think what's key, though, is that President Trump has to realize, and In order to accomplish our strategic goal, which is ending this conflict, reopening the Straits of Hormuz, and maintaining the alliances that we have in the Gulf, he has got to restrain the Israelis.
[00:09:28]  The Israelis have a.
[00:09:29]  Yeah, the problem is that he's not gonna, and we need to cook him for not restraining them.
[00:09:35]  That's the problem.
[00:09:37]  Different strategic goal than we do.
[00:09:39]  They want to take down the entire regime.
[00:09:41]  They don't care how long it takes, they don't care how much we have to commit in terms of blood and treasure.
[00:09:46]  So the Israelis and us have parted ways in terms of strategic objectives.
[00:09:50]  We have to be honest with ourselves.
[00:09:52]  It sounds like, considering the fact that someone shared the origins of this war with the New York Times, that that is recognized now by this administration.
[00:10:00]  So, the first thing that President Trump has to do in order to make sure this lasts is actually restrain the Israelis, take away key components of the military aid that we give them so that they lack the capability to go on the offense and to spoil this ceasefire.
[00:10:13]  Will Chamberlain, your response to that?
[00:10:16]  I mean, I think that's a completely incoherent idea, not merely wrong, but just incoherent.
[00:10:21]  First off, it presupposes we have the ability to take away their offensive capabilities.
[00:10:25]  Newsflash, they already have them.
[00:10:27]  We can't just seize them.
[00:10:28]  Are we going to invade Israel and take their planes?
[00:10:30]  We can't.
[00:10:31]  They have the F-35.
[00:10:32]  They have these capabilities.
[00:10:33]  Remember, they launched the 12-day war on their own.
[00:10:35]  So, I mean, even the debate was just.
[00:10:37]  But on that point, Will, on that point, the Americans could withdraw their funding.
[00:10:42]  Yeah.
[00:10:42]  So the thing is, is that can they overtly stop them like right away?
[00:10:47]  No, but like they can pull their support, pull their funding.
[00:10:49]  So the Israelis are not going to go ahead and be as aggressive.
[00:10:52]  What this guy, Will Chamberlain, is missing here is that.
[00:10:54]  He's going like strictly like, oh, we can't take their hardware.
[00:10:58]  Okay, of course we can't actually take their hardware.
[00:11:00]  But what we could do is tell them, we're not going to support you.
[00:11:02]  So if you guys find yourselves in a fucking pickle, we're not going to save you.
[00:11:06]  And what he doesn't understand is that the Israelis are aggressive the way that they are because they know that they're going to get U.S. support.
[00:11:15]  For example, with the 12 day war, right?
[00:11:18]  A big reason they launched that assault is because they knew that we would mobilize aircraft carriers, the Jordanians would help, and so would the Egyptians with shooting down ballistic missiles that came through in the airspace and the Gulf states.
[00:11:30]  Okay, that's all based upon us having influence in the region.
[00:11:35]  Okay, with Jordan and Egypt, for example, Egypt and Jordan only play nice with Israel because we pay them to.
[00:11:42]  Egypt and Jordan also get quite a bit of foreign aid from us to play nice with Israel.
[00:11:48]  That's obviously a strategic decision because if you guys look at a map here, it'll make sense for you.
[00:11:54]  Look, you type in here Middle East, boom.
[00:11:59]  And you see Israel, who's to the south?
[00:12:03]  Egypt, right?
[00:12:04]  Sinai Peninsula, which they got back in 1978, and then Jordan to the east.
[00:12:11]  Okay?
[00:12:12]  So we pay these guys to play nice with Israel for Israel's security.
[00:12:20]  Lebanon said, fuck off.
[00:12:22]  We're not doing no deals with y'all niggas.
[00:12:24]  Even though the Lebanese government wants to work with the U.S., Hezbollah doesn't.
[00:12:30]  Okay?
[00:12:33]  So that's why.
[00:12:36]  So when Kent, right?
[00:12:38]  Let me close some of these tabs.
[00:12:39]  Sorry.
[00:12:44]  This shit's funny as fuck.
[00:12:46]  I'll save this one for later.
[00:12:49]  Did the criminal complaint.
[00:12:52]  Okay.
[00:12:53]  When Kent said, We don't have these capabilities for them.
[00:12:58]  Are we going to take away their offensive capabilities?
[00:13:00]  Wrong, but just incoherent.
[00:13:02]  First off, it presupposes we have the ability to take away their offensive capabilities.
[00:13:06]  Okay.
[00:13:07]  We don't have the ability to take their offensive capabilities, but their offensive capabilities are 100% contingent upon their defensive capabilities, which we actually play a huge role in.
[00:13:18]  So, this guy's being incredibly disingenuous.
[00:13:20]  Incredibly disingenuous.
[00:13:26]  They're not going to attack as hard if they know they can't defend as hard.
[00:13:29]  It's that simple.
[00:13:33]  The FADs, the interceptor missiles, us moving U.S. assets in the region to help them, that all plays a role in their ability to defend themselves, which is directly proportional to their ability to attack.
[00:13:49]  The reason why they're so aggressive in how they attack is because they know.
[00:13:53]  That retaliation to them needs to be measured.
[00:13:57]  I'll give you guys an example.
[00:13:59]  The Israelis bombed a fucking embassy in Damascus.
[00:14:08]  Bombing an embassy is an act of war.
[00:14:12]  They bombed the Iranian embassy in Damascus.
[00:14:16]  Why did they do that?
[00:14:17]  They did that because they knew that the Iranians would not be able to retaliate.
[00:14:23]  With the same level of aggression.
[00:14:26]  Because at the time that they bombed the embassy, they wanted to, at the time they bombed the embassy, they wanted the Iranians to respond in an extremely aggressive fashion, aggressive fashion, that would threaten Israeli security, which would do what?
[00:14:45]  Draw the United States in.
[00:14:48]  This was under the Biden administration.
[00:14:50]  So this is why the Israelis did so much bullshit between 2023 all the way up until.
[00:14:57]  President Trump came in.
[00:14:58]  They bombed the embassy.
[00:14:59]  They did reckless assassinations.
[00:15:01]  They did the 12 day war.
[00:15:05]  They bombed the fuck out of Beirut and Lebanon.
[00:15:08]  They bombed Syria.
[00:15:09]  They bombed the Houthis.
[00:15:11]  They did all of this stuff.
[00:15:13]  And they also bombed Iran too.
[00:15:15]  And blew up their fucking embassy and killed a bunch of generals.
[00:15:19]  They did that hoping that the Iranians would match them with the same level of aggression where the United States would have to intervene to ensure Israel doesn't get destroyed.
[00:15:29]  Does that make sense, chat?
[00:15:31]  So, what Will Chamberlain doesn't understand, this fucking retard, is that though we can't actually repeal Their weapons that are there, they have F 35s, they have a lot of our technology.
[00:15:42]  That is true.
[00:15:44]  What we can do is repeal our commitment to defend them from their reckless, destructive foreign policy and aggression.
[00:15:57]  Because the only reason they feel safe to attack the way that they do, like bombing a fucking embassy in another country, which is an attack on two different countries' sovereignty, the only reason they felt safe to do that is because they knew that if the Iranians actually hit them as hard as.
[00:16:12]  They hit the Iranians, this would invite US intervention.
[00:16:16]  That is why they behave as aggressively as they do.
[00:16:19]  And this is why Will Chamberlain is a fucking retard.
[00:16:21]  It's not just about attacking, it's also about defending.
[00:16:27]  Newsflash, they already have them.
[00:16:29]  We can't just seize them.
[00:16:30]  Are we going to invade Israel and take their planes?
[00:16:32]  Irrelevant.
[00:16:33]  And I just explained this to you guys.
[00:16:35]  Their attack capability isn't the only parameter here.
[00:16:38]  Their defense capability is also extremely important.
[00:16:41]  And that's contingent upon us.
[00:16:42]  We can't.
[00:16:43]  They have the F 35, they have these capabilities.
[00:16:45]  Remember, they launched the 12 day war on their own.
[00:16:48]  So, I mean, even if they.
[00:16:49]  Knowing that the United States would eventually get involved.
[00:16:52]  They launched that 12 day war knowing the United States was going to get involved.
[00:16:56]  And they told the United States, we are going to nuke these guys.
[00:17:00]  And that forced Trump to get involved in a conflict.
[00:17:03]  But on that point, Will, on that point, the Americans could withdraw their funding.
[00:17:10]  The billions of dollars that go to the Israelis, which they use to fund the.
[00:17:15]  And it's roughly three to four billion a year.
[00:17:16]  But we never talk about mobilizing aircraft carriers, how we let them use our resources.
[00:17:22]  That's just aid that we give them, right?
[00:17:24]  That they spend back on us.
[00:17:25]  But we never talk about all the money it costs, right?
[00:17:29]  For mobilizing our assets to support them.
[00:17:33]  We never talk about any of that or how much the wars cost us.
[00:17:38]  Our own military that could just be withdrawn.
[00:17:41]  Or maintaining bases in the region that benefit them.
[00:17:44]  You know what I mean?
[00:17:45]  Like that, like that, that three to four billion is just what they get overtly.
[00:17:49]  We never talk about all the other costs of supporting Israel, the diplomatic ties that we, the diplomatic opportunities that we lost, right?
[00:18:01]  The issues that arise with the Middle East because of them.
[00:18:04]  The trillions we spent on the wars.
[00:18:06]  Like, it's not just three to four billion on paper that we give them.
[00:18:09]  Also, just so you guys know, we give them, over the past couple of years, we gave them way more.
[00:18:13]  We mobilized like $12 billion emergency, like as soon as Trump took office.
[00:18:18]  Marco Rubio and Trump, like, pushed the fucking bill, pushed a support package for the Israelis that gave them like $12 billion over a fucking night.
[00:18:29]  America isn't powerless.
[00:18:30]  It can exercise that power.
[00:18:33]  Right, but the offensive capabilities they would need to strike around, they already have.
[00:18:36]  They're the second biggest air force in the world today.
[00:18:39]  Even if we said, we're not going to give you $4 billion a year going forward, that wouldn't stop anything.
[00:18:43]  And then the second point No, yes, it would.
[00:18:46]  They would not be able to exercise as much aggression as they do.
[00:18:49]  If we cut funding for them and cut support, yes, they would be able to attack, but they would not be able to attack with the same level of aggression and recklessness as they do now because they would actually have to bear the consequences of their enemies without U.S. support and retaliation, which is what keeps people fucking scared.
[00:19:06]  And as a matter of fact, I'll take it a step further.
[00:19:08]  If the United States withdrew support of Israel, not only would the Iranians attack them, all the other Middle Eastern countries would attack them.
[00:19:15]  You think Egypt and Jordan want to play nice with these niggas?
[00:19:20]  You think Sudan and UAE and Morocco want to be in the fucking Abraham Accords?
[00:19:28]  Fuck out of here.
[00:19:30]  If the U.S. pulled out their support, right?
[00:19:33]  We let them keep all their weapons and everything else like that, they would still be destroyed because all the other countries have no incentive to play nice with them anymore.
[00:19:42]  This guy doesn't live in reality.
[00:19:45]  Is that this is an unbelievably silly approach to foreign policy because we haven't hammered out final terms with the Iranians yet.
[00:19:51]  We're still in the middle of negotiations.
[00:19:53]  The idea that we would restrain our.
[00:19:55]  There are no negotiations.
[00:19:56]  It's literally the Pakistanis begging the US and Iran to like figure some type of ceasefire out and make something happen.
[00:20:03]  And Trump had his fucking clandestine operation fucking foiled.
[00:20:07]  So he had to come to the table and agree to the 10 point plan, which he posted on Truth Social.
[00:20:13]  Then he calls him and says, oh, that's not the plan I agree to.
[00:20:15]  Like, what?
[00:20:16]  Our ally, who by the way, just helped us achieve one of the greatest military victories of the modern era, we would restrain them instead of trying to use the threat of continued belligerence from them to extract.
[00:20:27]  What modern victory?
[00:20:28]  We haven't won shit.
[00:20:29]  What the fuck is this guy talking about?
[00:20:32]  This war with Iran has been a complete and utter failure, strategically.
[00:20:36]  Okay, we bombed a bunch of the infrastructure.
[00:20:38]  Okay.
[00:20:39]  Missiles are still hitting Tel Aviv every day, bro.
[00:20:42]  Like, what are you talking about?
[00:20:47]  Drones and missiles are still hitting Israel every day, bro.
[00:20:50]  And the Gulf.
[00:20:51]  We're losing influence in the region.
[00:20:54]  We're losing at the gas bump.
[00:20:57]  We're losing diplomatically with the Gulf states.
[00:20:59]  Like, what are you talking about?
[00:21:01]  These guys just lie.
[00:21:02]  Basil, I appreciate you.
[00:21:04]  More punitive terms from the Iranians is silly.
[00:21:06]  It's just completely antithetical to how things should work.
[00:21:08]  And the idea that we need to be worried about our Gulf neighbors who would be upset if we didn't restrain the Israelis is also absurd because our Gulf neighbors are on our side and the.
[00:21:17]  This war has not only solidified our position militarily, it solidified it diplomatically because all those countries are furious with the Iranians and.
[00:21:25]  Okay, they can be mad all they want.
[00:21:27]  They can be mad all they fucking want.
[00:21:30]  Let me tell you something, buddy.
[00:21:34]  Are we going to take the Iranian regime out that they're pissed off at?
[00:21:37]  I think we know the answer to that.
[00:21:39]  Nope.
[00:21:41]  So they can be mad all they want.
[00:21:44]  Yes, they're pissed off at the Iranians because they can't sell their energy, their gas is cooked.
[00:21:49]  And tourism is down.
[00:21:52]  But are we going to remove the Iranians that are in power right now?
[00:21:56]  No, we're not.
[00:21:59]  And that's going to be required for them to allow us to maintain any type of real military presence in the region.
[00:22:07]  So, we are pissing off our neighbors because they're the ones dealing with the consequences, our Gulf allies.
[00:22:17]  They're the ones dealing with the consequences of our poor foreign policy.
[00:22:20]  Noodles, thank you.
[00:22:23]  Really gifted.
[00:22:24]  Are on our side and want to strengthen cooperation with both us and Israel.
[00:22:27]  But what is clear from New York?

=== Fact Checking The Iran Conflict (10:19) ===

[00:22:29]  No, they don't.
[00:22:30]  Only one Gulf state recognizes Israel, bro.
[00:22:32]  It's the UAE.
[00:22:33]  All the other countries do not recognize Israel.
[00:22:35]  What are you talking about?
[00:22:37]  Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia.
[00:22:40]  Oman, none of them recognize Israel, bro.
[00:22:44]  Only the UAE recognized Israel, and that was recently.
[00:22:47]  So, what are you talking about, bro?
[00:22:49]  They don't even recognize Israel as a country.
[00:22:51]  Get the fuck out of here with that.
[00:22:54]  Times are pulled to strengthen cooperation because all those countries are furious with the Iranians and are on our side.
[00:22:59]  Irrelevant.
[00:23:00]  They're on our side now because they want us to destroy the Iranians, and we're not going to be able to.
[00:23:05]  We are not going to do the regime change that is required for us to maintain bases in the region.
[00:23:11]  It's that simple.
[00:23:13]  The Gulf states are furious and they want a regime change.
[00:23:17]  But the problem is that the regime change isn't going to happen via us.
[00:23:21]  So, in other words, the same regime that's bombing them is going to be the same regime staying in power.
[00:23:26]  So, if the same regime stays in power and that regime bombs them for having U.S. bases, what do you think is going to happen?
[00:23:32]  Oh, I think I know.
[00:23:34]  They're going to tell the U.S., hey, get your base out of here.
[00:23:38]  It's that simple.
[00:23:39]  It's that simple.
[00:23:41]  Idem wants to strengthen cooperation with both us and Israel.
[00:23:45]  But what is clear from that New York Times report, it seems to be incredibly well sourced.
[00:23:49]  So somebody's been talking who was in that room.
[00:23:53]  What is clear from that is that the Israelis.
[00:23:57]  I hate when Pierce does this, bro.
[00:23:58]  Yo, Pierce, let Joe talk, bro.
[00:24:00]  Like, niggas are not here to watch you debate, bro.
[00:24:02]  Like, shut the fuck up.
[00:24:04]  Why does he not let his guests debate, bro?
[00:24:06]  This is so annoying that he does this shit.
[00:24:08]  I get it.
[00:24:09]  Like, let Joe talk.
[00:24:11]  You know, maybe this was an honest mistake on their part, a misreading of the situation.
[00:24:16]  But they certainly appear to be of the belief, if you took out the Ayatollah and some of the top people with him, that this would then lead to an uprising by the people.
[00:24:26]  And that amid all this chaos, there would be no ability to close the Strait of Hormuz.
[00:24:32]  Well, none of that has really happened.
[00:24:34]  Yes, they got rid of the Ayatollah, but he's just been replaced by other similarly minded people.
[00:24:40]  And then there's been no uprising by the Iranian people whatsoever.
[00:24:45]  And of course, the Strait of Hormuz has been held in a kind of stranglehold by the Iranians.
[00:24:51]  In a very powerful way, it has to be conceded, which has caused enormous damage to the global economy.
[00:24:57]  They've basically controlled that straight now for four or five weeks, and it's caused hell.
[00:25:03]  And none of that appears to have been predicted by the Israelis in their sales pitch to Trump to join them on this war.
[00:25:11]  Well, so I think you're overstating a number of things there.
[00:25:14]  First off, I mean, you know, the Iranian Navy is gone, right?
[00:25:17]  They're controlling the strait by threatening to shoot at people, but they don't have any naval forces meaningfully in the area.
[00:25:22]  And the idea, remember, they were thinking that card, which is their only Trump card, that's the maximum that they can use.
[00:25:28]  But it's a very powerful card.
[00:25:29]  And it's one that the Israeli Navy is saying to please.
[00:25:32]  Yeah, see, this guy is acting as if they're fighting the same war.
[00:25:35]  The United States is fighting a war of military strength, the Iranians are fighting a war of asymmetric disparity, right?
[00:25:43]  So.
[00:25:44]  They're fighting a war of strategic asymmetry.
[00:25:47]  So it doesn't matter that you destroyed the Navy, retard.
[00:25:50]  Israel's not concerned with the fucking Iranian Navy.
[00:25:53]  That was never their concern.
[00:25:54]  Okay?
[00:25:55]  Their concern was the ballistic missile program and the proxies is the main fucking concern.
[00:26:01]  All right?
[00:26:02]  And you can make an argument for the nukes too, but not really.
[00:26:05]  So I love how this guy's talking about the Navy and he's probably going to mention Air Force here in a second, but that's not what makes Iran powerful.
[00:26:14]  Okay?
[00:26:14]  These dudes have boats from like the 1960s, dude.
[00:26:17]  Like, what?
[00:26:19]  Just straight deflection obfuscation of the real issue.
[00:26:23]  The Navy doesn't matter, dude.
[00:26:25]  And neither does the Air Force.
[00:26:27]  That's why Tel Aviv is still getting hit to this fucking day.
[00:26:32]  And it's funny.
[00:26:33]  If the Navy got destroyed as much as you claim and it matters that much, then why is the Strait of Hormuz still closed?
[00:26:41]  They can never answer that.
[00:26:43]  Pete Exeth can't answer that.
[00:26:45]  We destroyed their navy.
[00:26:46]  Okay, Strait of Hormuz is still closed.
[00:26:48]  Boom, Booker!
[00:26:49]  The fuck?
[00:26:51]  They did not think they had the power, according to the neoconservative.
[00:26:54]  The Israelis might have made a slight misjudgment on that effect.
[00:26:56]  It's war.
[00:26:57]  I think the Iranians made a much bigger misjudgment overall when you talk about the complete destruction of their military capability.
[00:27:02]  Right, but if you take away the Strait of Hormuz issue, then you've got overwhelming military dominance by the Americans and Israelis.
[00:27:12]  Yes, the Iranians would have still attacked their neighboring Gulf states, but that would be a military.
[00:27:19]  Conflict part of it.
[00:27:20]  The fact that the Strait of Hormuz has been shut pretty much for five weeks, that has been an asymmetric war, which, you know, with the best one in the world, has been wielded very successfully by the Iranians.
[00:27:33]  For whatever reason.
[00:27:33]  I don't think so at all.
[00:27:34]  I think that's actually been wielded quite poorly.
[00:27:37]  Let me finish my point, Joe, and then you can speak.
[00:27:39]  Two weeks ago, the Iranians were saying, we're not going to give up the Strait of Hormuz unless we get a permanent peace deal, a permanent commitment to non aggression and reparations.
[00:27:47]  What are they trading it for as of yesterday?
[00:27:49]  Two weeks ceasefire, no promises.
[00:27:51]  They can't even extract a commitment.
[00:27:53]  Uh, not true?
[00:27:55]  Not true.
[00:27:56]  It's a two week ceasefire based on a 10 point agreement that they presented, which Trump actually posted on True Social.
[00:28:03]  What is this guy talking about?
[00:28:04]  How can you get on fucking Piers Morgan and not know your what?
[00:28:07]  Commitment from the org, get a permanent peace deal.
[00:28:09]  Two weeks ago, the Iranians were saying, we're not going to give up the Strait of Hormuz unless we get a permanent peace deal, a permanent commitment to non aggression and reparations.
[00:28:18]  What are they trading it for as of yesterday?
[00:28:20]  Two week ceasefire, no promises.
[00:28:22]  They can't even.
[00:28:23]  Okay, this guy is so fucking full of shit.
[00:28:26]  Wow, wow, wow, wow.
[00:28:27]  Okay, let's go ahead and fact check some of this shit real quick.
[00:28:31]  Every single time.
[00:29:55]  So this is crazy to me.
[00:29:57]  So, this is what this guy is talking about.
[00:30:00]  So, here's the 10 point plan, right?
[00:30:02]  An American guarantee of non aggression.
[00:30:03]  Iran maintains control of the Strait of Hormuz.
[00:30:06]  Ending the regional war on all fronts, including Iran's ally, Hezbollah, and Lebanon.
[00:30:10]  Withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from all basic positions in the region.
[00:30:13]  Reparations to Iran for war damages.
[00:30:14]  This is going to be done with them bringing in the $2 million per vessel.
[00:30:18]  Extends Iran's right to nuclear enrichment.
[00:30:20]  Lifting all primary sanctions.
[00:30:22]  Lifting all secondary sanctions.
[00:30:23]  Termination of all resolutions against Iran by the Board of Governors and the IAEA.
[00:30:27]  And the termination of all UN Security Council resolutions against Iran.
[00:30:30]  That's their 10 point thing.
[00:30:32]  Okay?
[00:30:33]  And this right here is the foreign minister, Aragachi, right?
[00:30:37]  And he goes and he says, hey, in response to the brotherly request of PM Sheriff, this is Pakistan, accepting the request by the U.S. for a negotiation based on his 15 point proposal, as well as an announcement by the President of the United States about acceptance of the general framework of Iran's 10 point proposal as a basis for negotiations.
[00:30:53]  How do I know that Trump accepted the 10 point plan?
[00:30:56]  Because he fucking posted on True Social Post.
[00:30:58]  Like, why?
[00:31:01]  He posted on his true social.
[00:31:04]  I'm going directly to the source.
[00:31:08]  What the fuck is this guy talking about?
[00:31:13]  This is his true social.
[00:31:15]  His website, his social media platform.
[00:31:18]  What?
[00:31:22]  And this comes from who?
[00:31:24]  Aragachi.
[00:31:25]  So I'm showing you guys.
[00:31:27]  This comes from Aragachi.
[00:31:29]  He posted Aragachi on their 10 point thing.
[00:31:34]  We're accepting this.
[00:31:36]  By the president's acceptance of the general framework of Iran's 10 point proposal.
[00:31:41]  So, what this basically means is they're going to negotiate, which I don't think the United States wants to actually negotiate.
[00:31:49]  But again, their ceasefire is going to be based on the negotiation around what?
[00:31:55]  Iran's 10 point plan.
[00:31:57]  And in the 10 point plan, they want non aggression, nuclear freedom, right?
[00:32:06]  Control of the Strait of Hormuz, et cetera.
[00:32:08]  Trump accepted it.
[00:32:09]  Why is this guy lying to you guys?
[00:32:11]  What is this nigga talking about?
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[00:32:23]  I only came on so you guys would know that I'm on.
[00:32:25]  You guys know I hate this godforsaken platform.
[00:32:28]  We're going to keep breaking this down because, as you guys can see, not many people have the receipts like I do.
[00:32:35]  Clearly, clearly, clearly.
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