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Feb. 2, 2026 - MyronGainesX
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Have the Epstein Files Cooked Trump? Iran-US War Imminent? 2026-02-02 05:32
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Anus and Reach Way 00:04:41
I've been waiting for this.
You want more?
We'll give it to you.
Shout out to Cash Will Club.
It's 2026.
And FNF is putting boots on necks.
And we're starting with you snakes.
Let's go!
I get to address this beef going on, but also the shit on your retarded ass song.
I'ma say the Red Billway was extremely gay.
It's exactly what I expected to hear when I hit play.
But let's go back to a few years ago when we were called Joe and did a live show.
We thought things were good, we didn't expect an attack.
But four months later, you stabbed us in the back.
Even then, when I attacked your so-called wife, I publicly apologized like a man to make things right.
But instead of accepting it and maintaining a good rep, you realize you could grip by beefing with me and fresh.
So enough for this bullshit going back and forth.
It's time to cook anus and reach.
We're done with the fork.
And I don't have to make shit up like you do.
All I gotta do is provide these lyrics with the truth.
They are too low IQ, niggas with a shitty grip.
All their content is complaining and being weak.
Simps wanna know how low to go in their next episode.
Just go and tune into the anus and reach show.
They're faking, they're dumb and their ass are full of thumb.
They lack integrity and they are both pure scum.
Wanna know how low they go in their next episode.
Just go and tune into the anus and reach show.
You kept talking shit, so we challenged you to fight.
Preach said he would defend the honor of his fake right.
But you bitched out and made pathetic excuses.
Ultimately, both of you monkeys ended up looking stupid.
You are liars and frauds, only in this for the money.
True Canadian comedians, but none of you are funny.
The only thing that's funny is preacher's gay ass lisp.
I got pegged in his ass by the bitch This is a new trend You snake destiny and betrayed our cash for its sense.
You have millions of followers, but your views are shit.
Nobody wants to take advice from him with saggy bitch kids.
So there's nothing left to say about you, two sodomites.
We'd rather step in the ring so we could put out your lights.
They are too low IQ, niggas with a shitty grift.
All their content is complaining and being weak.
Simps wanna know how low they go in their next episode.
Just go and tune into the anus and reach show.
They're faking, they're dumb and they ask a full of calm.
They lack integrity and they are both pure scum.
Wanna know how low they'll go in their next episode.
Just go and tune into the anus and reach show.
They are too low IQ niggas with a shitty grift.
All their content is complaining and being weak.
Simps wanna know how low they go in their next episode.
Just go and tune into the anus and reach show.
They're fake and they're dumb and their ass is full of calm.
They lack integrity and they are both pure scum.
Wanna know how low they go in their next episode.
All right, we are live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the stream.
Welcome to the stream.
We absolutely cooked those losers.
And it's funny because like they're stupid ass fans, like leave comments, take some shit.
It's like, okay, well, everything that we said in our song is real.
So that's why they get defeated.
Because, you know, lies are always more entertaining than the truth.
But we absolutely destroyed those niggas, bro.
So yeah, guys, welcome to the stream.
Welcome to the stream.
Welcome to the stream.
It is beautiful Sunday.
It's cold as hell, man.
I do think I'm waiting to get an answer back from some of the bros here on South Carolina.
We might have to postpone it, man.
Apparently, there's some really bad weather coming into South Carolina here very soon.
So, yeah, that's what might be happening.
And then, also, as you guys know, I'm going to have my brother on.
I'm going to probably get him in here in a second.
He started a new YouTube channel.
So, we are going to go and rate his thing here very soon.
But, you know, obviously, I'll do a little bit of housekeeping here first and everything else like that.
Lots of stuff going on in the news.
Dev scene files get worse and worse day by day.
We got what looks to be an imminent war at this point between us and the Iranians.
What else?
And yeah, as usual, women are being thoughts.
What else is new?
We roasted Anus and Reach.
Our song actually hits way harder than the Red Pill Way.
We call our shit the Anus and Reach way because, unlike them, our song is 1,000% facts.
Officers' Belief in Armed Suspect 00:04:19
Everything in there is them lying.
Oh, looks like looks like Andrew Wilson is debating Brian Shapiro.
That's interesting.
On ice.
Let's see here.
Let's jump in here real quick.
He didn't address them.
They addressed him first.
He didn't confront them.
They confronted him first and they got up to him.
That's number one.
So what?
That's kind of important because it's another lie being put forth by the administration and Bavano, that buffoon who said that he approached the officers first, which was another lie.
And you can Google that too.
But for sake of argument, what took place there was he was pushed to the ground.
He was pepper sprayed.
He was being kicked and punched.
Why would it take five or six officers to put handcuffs?
Because he was a big guy and he was resisting arrest.
Five or six officers.
Yeah.
Really?
Why did they shoot him when he was unarmed?
Well, they thought he was armed because that's why they were asking.
Well, here's the thing.
You're using post hoc justification.
So from Brian Shapiro's viewpoint, you say I have the facts after the fact, even though I wasn't involved in the thing.
Well, we also stopped Brian, my turn.
I've let you go for a while.
And I did see what happened.
And here's what happened.
There were shouts of gun, gun, gun.
They're asking about the gun after the shooting, too, because they clearly thought that he had a gun on him.
That's what they thought.
That's why they opened fire.
Okay.
That is now justified.
Now, let me ask you, and I can explain how.
Not true.
Yes, it is.
If a cop in a statement.
If somebody has a toy gun in a Walmart, right?
I'm going to read chats here in a second, guys.
They get shot by a cop, right?
You can say, well, wait a second, that wasn't a real gun after the fact.
That's true.
But we're talking about whether or not it's justified.
Hang on.
Hold on.
Brian, respond to that, bro.
Let me finish.
We're asking about whether or not it's justified if the officers have a clear belief that he is armed and they open fire because he can't get his hands under control because he's resisting arrest.
If that would be justified at that point, I would argue that it would be, yes.
Okay, so first of all, there's a difference.
If somebody has a toy gun and they point that gun at an officer, I think most people would say that's probably justified.
That is not what happened here.
I repeat once again.
He was legally carrying.
He never brandished.
No, You're missing the key point.
I think if he has a fake gun, what we're banking on is the officers' belief in X. That's what creates the justification.
I believed it was a real gun.
I believed he did have a gun.
And it's reasonable for me to have believed he had a gun because of X, Brian.
That's exactly what it is.
In terms of believing he has a gun on him and then him reaching for the gun and trying to use it.
There is no evidence.
And even you agree with that.
They couldn't get the hands.
They couldn't get his hands.
They hands under control.
Hold on.
He couldn't do it.
That's not an excuse.
There's no evidence.
Yes.
I think it was justified based on that.
Yeah.
Andrew.
Andrew?
There's no evidence that he tried to reach for the weapon.
Okay.
Therefore, there's no justification.
Actually, it does.
It looks like murdering somebody because he had a weapon on his person.
Actually, you're wrong.
In a frame-by-frame play, it does look like he goes for the holster in the small of his back.
But even if it's the case, even if I granted it, there was no weapon to brandish at that point.
They had removed it.
But the thing that's interesting here, Brian, is that I went through it frame by frame by frame.
They could not get this guy's hands under control because he wouldn't let them get his hands under control.
Okay.
At one point, there was only two officers on him when he's retracting his hands back just after they had yelled, gun, gun.
Okay.
And when they opened fire, they were asking, where's the gun?
Because they believed that he was.
That is true.
A lot of people don't know that.
And I didn't even want to bring it up when I debate people.
The federal agents actually asked, where's the gun as people were rendering aid?
They did not even know.
Some of the agents did not even know that someone had already taken a gun off the guy.
That's an extremely pertinent fact.
Now, I don't bring it up with the idiots because they can't even concede that him having the gun or not, doesn't matter.
Might have believed that he had a gun on him.
It's not necessarily.
But Andrew is correct in that assessment.
Debatable Defense 00:07:01
That's very true.
After the shooting, there was video shown after, and people were trying.
I think it was law enforcement actually that was actually trying to render aid.
And some of the agents that shot him asked, where's the gun?
Where's the gun?
They had not known, even minutes after the shooting, that the gun had already been taken off the individual.
Trilogy.
Which adds more credence to the belief at the time that they thought that he was armed.
Very important.
Real quick, campaign Gucci says Pakistan just killed over 100 Indians today.
Now somehow, some way, cause JTA6 pushback to 2028.
Interesting.
Saragno Diddy, happy birthday, brother.
Boots on next all 2026.
I appreciate you, bro.
Don't demonstrate.
I appreciate you, my friend.
I appreciate you.
Thank you so much for that, Saragno Diddy.
Big $100, $100 super chat.
Sentry says, Martin, what are your thoughts on, bro?
Don't ever send that shit to me again.
Happy birthday, Fit.
I hope you have a great day.
Her birthday, my fear house, Frank, too.
Boots on next.
Happy birthday, the realist of the reals.
You didn't just age.
You leveled up.
Sharper mind.
Appreciate you, bro.
Scroll cruncher.
Happy birthday, man.
Martin, I appreciate everything you do and how much you help me.
You're like the older brother never had.
No worries, man.
That's what I'm here for, bro.
You see emails from MC to world leaders speaking about Jay Supremacy, as well as the email where he said, whoops, while it's actually in report of RFK's wife committing suicide.
Yeah, bro, I'm telling you, man.
This nigga was connected.
He was everywhere, bro.
I told my girl I didn't feel comfortable with her going out of the country with her mom because her mom acts like she's 21 sometimes.
And she literally told her mom that she should have kept that between us.
We've been dating for six months and she's been solid, but I fear this is a major crack.
What do you think?
Well, it's her mom.
But at the same time, that's an issue because that invites other people to get involved in your affairs with your girl, which is, you know, can create serious issues.
So that's a judgmental call that only you can make, bro.
But that definitely can't happen again.
I just want you to pull up the video because are we talking about you're saying that she just slipped on her own and just fell on the ground?
Not that she was pushing to the ground.
Exactly.
She didn't fall to the ground, Brian.
She was intervening.
She was struggling.
She was trying to intervene with an officer in the line of his duty, and he pushed her away.
She fell down.
He interjected himself.
Now he's a threat.
So an armed threat.
By the way, he, so he helping her up, to me, is not a plausible reason to pepper spray somebody from two feet away.
And then seconds later, when he puts one.
That's not your, you're not a law enforcement officer.
You weren't there.
So your opinion is irrelevant.
Also, there were three of them, if you remember.
He was dealing with a woman and there was another woman there.
And then the guy came over.
So it was three of them.
So even if we go ahead and take your stupid perspective and say, oh, no, it wasn't.
I would argue it actually is.
It's three verse one at that point, if you guys remember the video.
One hand in the air after he's pepper spray.
And I'll pull it up for you guys right now.
Down, right?
Gets back up.
This guy dives in like Captain Savajo, dives the fuck in, right?
He's going to get involved now in the middle of official police functions while he's fucking armed.
That's tarted shit one and two.
That is retarded.
The fact of the matter is, is that after he's pepper sprayed, they tell him, get on the ground.
They're trying to push him down.
They're trying to get him under control as a threat.
That is when this escalates.
Freddy could have stopped this anytime he wanted by just not being an asshole.
It really, all he had to do was just not be a fucking asshole.
Okay.
So first of all, I wouldn't characterize him that way.
I think the assholes are the people who are wearing masks, asking people without for ID and demanding papers.
Antifa reasoning.
Antifa is why they're wearing a mask position.
There you go with Antifa again.
Let me finish.
Or, you know, kicking down doors without warrants, which we have seen in Minneapolis.
So I would say, see, the guy we're talking about right now is dead.
Okay.
He had eight bullets in his body.
He's dead.
Now, if you think he was inappropriate or, as you say, tarred behavior, just because you have, according to Andrew Wilson, tarred behavior doesn't mean you don't think that was tarred behavior.
Would you have complied with the officers?
You deserve to be shot.
Here's the point though, guys.
Hey, Drew.
Whether it's not a matter of deserve.
It's a matter of justice.
One, two, three.
It's a matter of deserve.
Nobody ever gets what they deserve in life.
So let me.
But what they do, what you do get is you get things which are either justified or they're not justified.
And here's what happened in this case.
Okay.
There was a struggle.
He was resisting arrest.
He was obviously.
That's debatable.
That's debatable.
No, it's not.
Not debatable.
No.
Not debatable.
That's debatable.
What do you mean?
It's debatable.
Not debatable.
I got pepper sprayed and cops were telling you what you do with it.
I will explain.
Not debatable.
Give me the opportunity.
Here's why I don't think he was quote unquote necessarily resisting.
He's immediately pepper sprayed.
At that time, he has one hand in the air and literally a second or two later, they push him to the ground.
Yeah, good.
He's curled up.
They're kicking him and they're punching him.
I think most reasonable people would agree that when you have five or six.
Hold on a second.
Let me finish.
There are five or six officers on top of you beating you.
It's very difficult for anybody to reason.
You're going to defend yourself.
You're going to defend yourself.
So there's a difference between resisting arrest and when five or six goons are on top of you, kicking you and punching you, trying to defend yourself when you're in the eyes.
No, this is the opposite.
This is exactly the wrong take.
What's actually going on is this.
Let's say you're a cop, Brian, right?
You're trying to get this guy under control and you can't.
You can't get his arms under control.
You know that there's a gun.
Somebody's already shouted gun.
You're trying to get this dude under control, right?
Would you use gun?
Would you be talking about before talking about before they shouted guns?
Yeah, he was a threat after they shouted gun.
He was killed two seconds later.
Before that, too.
And so the thing is, is like they're trying to get him under control.
They can't get him under control.
Yes, of course, they're going to use heavy force in order to get the person under control.
That's how that works.
And that is exactly what they're trained to do is utilize the force for officer safety.
Obviously, you are defending what took place here, which is mesmerized.
But here's the bottom line.
Here are the facts.
The fact of the matter is, is that this man has no criminal record.
Fact of the matter is, is that what happened on that day is he never brandished the weapon and he was legally carrying.
What happened on that day is that an unarmed man, indisputable, was shot and killed.
And your defense is, well, they thought he had a gun.
Let me be very clear once again.
He did have a gun.
Just because you think somebody has a gun on their person doesn't give you the right to shoot.
And did have a gun on his person.
There is a reason why, several days after this shooting.
He did have a gun on his person.
And he never brandished it.
And he wasn't going to be able to do it.
Yeah, but the thing is, he never brandished it.
Is there reasonable?
Is it reasonable for officers, okay, when people are shouting gun, gun, gun, right?
And even if they glanced and saw that they pulled one off of him, they can't get him under control that he could have a second gun, a third gun.
So let's assume.
Okay, let's go with that.
Demonetized And Trolled 00:03:53
Let's go with that.
So the theory that Andrew is giving us now is he might have had a second gun.
He might have had a third gun.
So that's justifying shooting somebody in the back.
Give me a fucking break.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
That's the worst argument I've ever heard in my life.
I'm very, I'm really confused here.
There's many times we can shoot someone in the back.
There's many times.
If you're a cop and you, there's been a gun taken off of patrol agents.
Okay, yeah, whatever.
You take a gun off somebody.
You take a gun off of somebody.
Big difference.
You just instantly assume that that's it.
There's only one.
You just assume that.
So if you or isn't the standard protocol to make sure that you pat them down that they're under control, that they're in handcuffs.
I'll answer that.
I'll answer that for you.
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Somebody takes a gun off of one's person, which, by the way, a gun that he never reached for.
That is a lie.
Which, by the way, I appreciate all the birthday wishes, guys.
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Go to your bud.
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Christy's Financial Struggle 00:14:07
Never moved towards this woman.
They had every reason to believe that he was a threat at that point.
They moved towards him.
He was on the side of the ground.
Thank you, Healthy and R.
He moved towards.
She was moved towards them.
You agree with that, right?
Okay, so I don't believe that.
Do you agree that he moved towards them as well?
Originally, he walked towards the police officers walked towards him.
And after he sees, let me finish.
I'm answering your question.
After she was pushed to the ground, the one lady was pushed to the ground.
And then he goes over to them.
He took a step.
He took a step towards the officer, and then the officer immediately pepper sprayed him.
Bad move.
Now, again, now, okay, so we can say something is a bad move, but that doesn't necessarily justify killing.
Justified for him, for them to, they didn't start with lethal force, Brian.
That's bullshit.
They started with non-lethal force.
They pepper sprayed him, and they tried to get him under control.
Now, the thing is, is like...
Oh, so by kicking him and punching...
Rock No Diddy with the 10 gifted, man.
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Dom de Monko.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, man.
Thank you very much.
Kingham, that's how you get him under control.
By pushing.
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By putting him on the ground, trying to get his hands under control.
If you cannot get him under control, what do you do?
What would we do?
Officer would do if you couldn't get yourself under control.
Thank you, Grand.
I'm so glad you asked me.
What would you do?
Andrew?
I'm so glad you asked me.
I can't wait to hear.
Let me start with the things that I wouldn't do, and then I'll answer the questions of the things I would do.
By the way, I'm not one of these amazingly trained 47-day professionals with their $50,000, but I'll still answer your question, Andrew.
Okay.
Here's what I wouldn't do.
After, and by the way, I'm not sure if it's proper protocol to push a woman to the ground, but let's just assume it was for argument's sake, right?
If a man is trying to help a woman up, the first thing I wouldn't do was take out my pepper spray and pepper spray him two feet away.
By the way, you're also trained and you can Google this as well.
You're not supposed to pepper spray someone at close range.
It's very dangerous.
That officer did that.
So I wouldn't have done that.
I would have said, sir, if you don't back up, we're going to arrest you.
The first thing I wouldn't have done would be to take out my pepper spray.
Why?
Because that is not de-escalation.
Number two, if he disobeys that order and he doesn't obey your command.
You don't think that pepper spray is de-escalation?
Hold on.
I'm answering your question.
And I said the first thing I wouldn't have done is what this first goon officer did.
Hang on, Aang.
Pepper spray is not de-escalation to you.
That's always escalation.
In some instances, it is de-escalation.
Yeah, because the guy's person's black.
Yeah, because you're trying to, if anything, it's a way to avoid using lethal force, right?
It's a use of force ladder.
Trying to not use lethal force when you're using pepper spray, tasers, etc.
Blind, right?
And now they're in pain.
In this situation, and the reason why Stephen Miller walked back to his comments, because even Stephen Miller disagrees with you, Andrew, and you could also Google this.
Stephen Miller said that he probably did not follow proper protocol.
So even Stephen Miller.
And he's not law enforcement.
He doesn't even understand protocol.
Who once called this guy an assassin said last week that he most likely believes, most likely, that these officers broke.
Do you agree that protocol is situational?
Protocol is situational.
Every single police activity warrants a different outcome, but so it's all so it's always situational, right?
It's always situational.
Okay, so you disagree with Stephen Miller when he said these officers most likely broke proper protocol.
Do you just he might think he might think that they did, but the thing is, is that protocol is going to be situational?
Let me ask you a question, Andrew.
Who do you think is more?
Hang on.
Let's move back to what we were talking about before.
Yeah.
Stephen Miller is not a law enforcement professional, so quite frankly, his opinion is kind of irrelevant.
Like, I don't know why Brian Shapiro is making such a big stink about, oh, well, even Stephen Miller said XYZ.
That doesn't matter.
Do you agree that Predty involved himself in an incident that he did not need to be involved in?
He did not need to involve himself at all.
Do you agree with that?
I don't think he was breaking the law.
Okay, that's not what I asked you.
Did Alex Predty need to involve himself in this incident?
Did he need to?
What do you mean by need?
Meaning that in order for you to live your life, you have to do something?
Yeah, like if he has to do anything, if Alex Predi chose to do it.
Yeah, exactly.
So Alex Predi decided that he was going to involve himself in this situation while he don't have to peacefully.
He decided that he was going to do this, by the way.
So in the course of this action, a woman gets too close to an officer and he does exactly what he should have done and tries to make space from her.
He puts his arm out into the snowbank.
She goes.
I don't think he intended for her to get pushed.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Stop, Brian.
I don't think he intended for her to even fall in the snowbank.
He just looked to me like he was trying to get some space from her.
She goes down.
He involves himself.
When he turns around, yeah, that's a big guy.
He gets fucking pepper sprayed, and they're fighting for control at that point to get this guy under control.
If he had complied, let me ask you: if Predi had complied, would he be alive?
He didn't have the opportunity.
If he hadn't, yes, he did have the opportunity to comply.
Hold on, hold on.
And by the way, just because for argument's sake, you don't say comply or put your hands behind your back, I don't think he even had the opportunity or the time to do that.
One second, he's pepper sprayed.
The next second, he's on the ground and he's being beaten.
But let me go back to your question.
This is why your argument makes absolutely no sense in your defense of this.
Yeah, where's all this video?
Hold on, hold on.
Even if it was bad judgment, even if your claim, which you're making, is boy, he didn't have to be there.
He put himself in a dangerous situation.
He shouldn't have been there.
That still is not a defense for officers shooting and killing him.
And again, I go back to what I said earlier.
Even members of the Trump administration, plenty of Republicans now, want a full-blown out investigation.
Stephen Miller disagrees with you.
He says that he believes they broke proper protocol.
No, that's not what he said.
What he said is that they basically said that they may have.
Hold on, hold on.
Several days it took them to put these officers on paid administrative leave.
Most situations.
So what we're talking about?
Whether or not the Prede shooting was justified.
Yes, and here is the bottom line.
Regardless of what about your tds, we're talking about whether or not it's justified.
You're also making the assumption that these two officers assumed he had a gun, because one officer afterwards said, where's the gun?
You don't know what was in the mind.
No, it was also them shouting gun gun.
Yeah, while he's on the ground on his back lying motionless.
There was one officer that put three more bullets in him when he's lying on his back.
Do you know what panic fire?
Do you know what panic firing is?
You know?
Yeah well andrew, do you know what panic fire?
Do you know what panic firing is?
A bomb on him or something?
I don't know?
You know what panic firing is?
Yes, I do.
And what is it professional?
That is not a defense.
Oh, I panicked.
No, I know what.
You can be completely justified.
Execute the threat you can.
You can be completely justified in taking down a suspect.
Or you can be a highly trained individual and be justified in taking a person out.
Okay, and due to the fact that you have sensory deprivation, you can end up ultimately unloading more rounds.
Uh, based on the fact that you have some sort of panic or that your your sensory uh perception becomes narrow, but that doesn't just laugh in your face.
That doesn't mean that they were.
You might be able to make the case that he wasn't justified in the last three rounds, but you can't make the judge the case that they weren't justified yet in this.
Here's my opinion on.
Here's my opinion on panic fire.
It's for blatant cowards.
And hold on.
Let me.
Let me all the gunfights Brian's been in.
Let me finish.
Let me finish, please.
There were multiple shots that were fired after he was lying motionless on his back with his hands.
Now you've already made up your decision, apparently just like Christy Noham.
But here's the problem here.
Wait wait, wait.
I haven't made.
Wait a second, wait a second.
I have not made.
You're saying they're, you're defending them.
I haven't made a determination.
I'm pointing out to you that sounds like you make the no no no, the opposite is has happened.
You are the one who claims he was executed and it was completely unjustified.
Was this a good shooting without any fucking uh good, compelling evidence?
Yet we haven't gotten all the evidence.
Hang on, stop right, Brian.
We haven't gotten compelling evidence yet because the investigation is still ongoing.
We could find okay, we could find what we could hang on stop Brian, my turn.
We could find out a whole lot about this that we don't know yet.
What i'm pointing out to you is not whether or not um, it is the case that i've made up my mind on this.
What i'm pointing out to you is that you have made up your mind on this, even though there's serious qualifiers here that would uh, add to justification, and so the thing is is like you just throw all that out.
You're like, nah it, I don't care.
This guy, I know this guy got involved in this.
I know he was resisting arrest.
I know, I know that he had a gun on him.
All right, shout out to one Chess.
I do have the instructions here on how to do it.
So, for anyone from OSS, if you guys want to go ahead and get the sub, I guess the way we'd have to do it is like we'd have to get the brokeies right.
All the brokeies.
Just go ahead and say i'm a Brokey and put your email address and then someone can Gifted to you.
I think that's the way to do it.
But let me double-check here.
No, that justifies anything.
So, everything that Andrew said, first of all, he legally was carrying a gun.
Number one, number two, I never said he assaulted officers.
You're the one who made that assumption.
I'm not making that assumption at all.
Number three, I was talking about the DHS and Christy Noam, who made comments that were not true.
I read to you verbatim what Christy Noam said about him brandishing a weapon.
That's a different difference than us talking about the justification.
So I'm the shooting itself.
I don't care about your TDS.
I'm talking about the justification of this incident.
Andrew, Andrew, I don't usually respond too kind with people that use stupid terminologies like TDS.
So we'll get back to the conversation, but I will respond by saying I believe you have something called TFS.
Yeah, I know I've heard it before.
Yeah, you've heard it.
Okay, well, that's what you have.
Trump fallatio syndrome.
And you have Trump derangement syndrome.
Okay, fine.
You have Trump Fallacio syndrome.
You're a Trump mushroom babbler.
We move on.
Thank you.
Okay, don't worry about it.
You want to keep bringing up Trump in Trump's administration.
We're talking about the justification of this.
Hold on a second.
You just said, Do you want to keep bringing up Trump?
And you just said, I have Trump deranged TDS.
Yeah, I don't want to hear about your TDS.
I didn't bring up Donald Trump.
You're bringing up the Trump administration because you think that Trump was involved in that.
You just said I have TDS.
I will give you the same energy you give.
You do have TDS, you do have TDS.
And I think you wear Trump knee pads 24/7 while you're talking about it.
That's nice, but I mean, the TV works better.
But yeah, sure.
But I'm just pointing this out, right?
That you're the one actually who's making the affirmative claim.
No way it was justified.
Brian, you have all the facts.
You know exactly what happened.
Didn't say then, why is it that you rush what I'm saying?
Hang on, hang on.
If you don't have all the facts, why do you rush to judgment and claim it's unjustified immediately?
Why?
Sure.
I'll give you a couple answers.
First of all, I've called for Renee Good and Alex Predi.
I've wanted an independent investigation, and I've said this on national television: that if an independent investigation found that any of these shootings were justified, while I might disagree with it, I would live with it.
Number two, I think a radio host's opinion, which would be me, and the leader of DHS and the president of the United States, what they say hours after the shooting is a little bit more important than some, you know, different standard than something that I say.
What?
Don't say that.
See how you bring up Trump.
Hold on, hold on.
You brought it up again.
Your TDS again.
Let me finish.
When I make a valid point, all you say is DDS and you go back to the odd homage.
Well, you just brought up Trump again.
Let me finish.
Because he's the president of the United States.
Yeah, what does that have to do?
What does that have to do with the justification?
Because you just said, Andrew, you just said that I'm rushing to judgment.
Let's wait.
Let's get all the facts.
And my retort to that is: if you have that criticism for a radio host, why have you not talked about Christy Noam?
The leader of the free world.
So, what about him?
I'm talking to you, not to Christy Noam.
And I am trying to tell you that based on Am I talking to Christy Noam or am I talking to Brian Shapiro?
I cannot believe, I cannot believe that you don't have to say that.
I cannot believe that you cannot believe that I can't believe about the things that you believe.
It's unbelievable.
Andrew, truly, Andrew, you're not very funny, Cabe.
I know.
See, here's the problem.
In your last text message, you said I was pretty funny.
So, so Andrew, yeah, make up your vibe.
Andrew, I do want to get to the Trump stuff.
I do have to wake up early because I'm doing Pierce tomorrow.
But here's what I will say in regards to debates with you.
And I really mean this, Andrew, and you can tell me if you disagree.
Why Trust Is Lacking 00:06:57
And I'm sorry if I'm being graphic.
Andrew, at the start of this debate, could have dropped Trow and taken a shit.
And many of his cult followers would say, Andrew just destroyed Brian in that debate.
Now, here's the difference between you and me.
I don't give a fuck what people think.
If all of your cult followers think you're destroying, it's an ego thing with you.
What?
That seems like an ego thing with you.
So, no, it's not.
I'm not here to have a conversation.
Yeah, well, the why the reason why I'm bringing up Christy Noam.
The reason why, by the way, I mean what I just said.
The reason why, and listen, in the middle of this debate or at the end of the debate, when you always declare victory, I destroyed you.
I dogwalked you.
I haven't done anything, Brian, except engage in good faith in the topic at hand.
Andrew, I appreciate that.
I don't know why you're split.
I don't know.
This guy's always sprang, dude.
He's so annoying.
You are, dude.
Calm down.
I'm not freaking out.
What does Andrew has cult followers and this and that do with anything?
Yeah, you don't.
It just makes me mention something because when you say something like TDS, an ad hominem attacks, I can give you the TDS.
So let's move on from that now.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's get back to the actual discussion.
Well, that's where I wanted to be.
So I'm talking to Brian Shapiro, not anybody else.
I'm asking why Brian Shapiro has decided that he's made up his mind and that he doesn't.
He has all the facts of the matter.
He knows and he knows best.
So he has made up his mind that this is unjustified, period.
End of story.
I will answer.
Okay.
I will answer.
So, first of all, there's cell phone video, and I've seen multiple angles.
And from what my eyes tell me, from what I saw, this was not a good shooting.
What I saw that they did break protocol, I actually agree with Stephen Miller on this.
What I saw was a man.
Whether you agree whether he shouldn't have been there or not is irrelevant because from what I saw, he wasn't breaking any laws.
You obviously disagree.
What I saw was a man who was trying to help a woman up.
What I saw was a man that was what these officers did was they pepper spray him.
They push him to the ground.
They start beating him and punching him.
And then because he was legally carrying a firearm that he didn't brandish, they shoot him.
And Andrew's defense.
And that's what I saw from this video.
And by the way, most of America, Andrew, agrees with me.
Even MAGA Republicans are saying, this is really bad.
There needs to be a full investigation.
He's not a terrorist.
He's not a domestic terrorist.
He was never brandishing a weapon.
He's not an assassin.
MAGA Republicans, many of them agree with me.
But you know what I say at the end, Andrew?
I want to see a full investigation, right?
I believe in the rule of law.
And if there is an independent investigation that finds that these officers were justified, while I might not agree with it, I will still respect it.
They didn't do that with Renee Good either, by the way.
They didn't do that with Renee Key, did they?
So I just know.
So I just want to make sure I got this right.
You actually did not tell me why it is that absent said investigation, you have already decided that this is the case.
There is no justification.
You haven't heard any of the testimony of the police.
You haven't heard anything.
Exactly.
But absent all of this, I have told you.
You have made on England.
Stop.
Absent all of this, you have made the decision, even though you don't have access to the same evidence.
You don't know what it is that they're going to say.
You don't know what the justification that they're going to use in Tracy.
You have no clue about any of this.
You immediately, though, Brian said, I've already made up my mind.
This is already the case.
And then I want some kind of investigation after the fact.
And hopefully that justifies my position.
If it doesn't, Brian, my turn.
And if it doesn't, oh, well, too bad.
I guess I was wrong.
Oh, woe is me.
But it's like, I'm the one here with the nuanced position.
I haven't made up my mind on this.
I'm defending.
What I said specifically was you can I can see the case for justification.
That's it not here to defend don't need to defend you're the one with the sure position You're the one who's making these bold affirmative claim that you got the facts This is the case and that's it.
Yes.
Well yeah exactly yes first of all without any testimony any nothing so first of all You're just part of a mob you're part of mob rule man.
You're just saying like oh, if we, if the facts are exactly what I think, they are, okay.
So public court, it's a two-way conversation, right?
So, first of all, I saw the video Andrew, just like you did and everybody else.
I saw what took place.
I saw from all angles.
How do you know?
You've seen from all angles and from the angles that were released, right?
So you have.
You don't know, like you don't.
There's so much here you don't know.
Andrew, I've spoken for five seconds.
Please let me finish.
Based on the facts that we have, which I have repeated to you over and over and over again okay, I do not believe this was a justified shooting.
Now, that is my opinion.
I have also said, in my personal opinion, there should be an independent, full investigation.
The reason why I don't trust DHS in this investigation?
Because they've already made up their minds.
Same thing with the Renee Good case and, by the way, we haven't even discussed the fact that there has not.
Todd Blanche has said two weeks ago, no more to investigate here.
He said that in the press conference they didn't even do ballistics, which is very basic stuff when there's an officer involved shooting.
They didn't perform an autopsy on her.
They didn't interview witnesses that saw what took place, and that is why I don't.
I guess the the term that I would use is, I don't I I, I don't trust what's going on here.
They didn't fully investigate the Renee Good shooting.
I've said, investigate it please.
I've also tried to be why?
Why do you even want an investigation?
You just believe already it's not justified, like you just already believe that.
And so here's the thing it's so funny is, like me, I can have my mind changed on these things, and I can have my mind changed easily, because I don't.
I can't too, I don't formulate.
You already formulated a conclusion, Andrew.
Here's the difference.
Here's the difference.
Why would you formulate, if there's testimony, ongoing investigation, especially on the the Renee thing andrew, especially on Pretty?
That one's the most bizarre to me Andrew pretty, if they're saying this because they hate ice, go ahead, Andrew.
Let me just respond to that.
If there's no, it takes you forever to respond.
No, it doesn't.
They just don't like to listen, you like, it just takes.
It just takes you forever, but go ahead, okay.
Well yeah, from the guy who wants to google stuff which, by the way, I was right, but anyway um, and nobody was taking any of that away from you.
If there's an over investigation, if there's an independent investigation which there won't be into Renee Good, I doubt there'll be there is going to be an independent investigation.
Every single shooting mandates an independent investigation.
Potential Protest Violence 00:03:28
What are you talking about, dude?
This is the problem when you let people come in talk that don't know what they're talking about.
You want into Alex Pretty, an independent, has an independent investigation by Wall.
They're irrelevant.
But you've You neglected the fact that he actually has subbed in for your show, right?
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
And your point?
Stephen Miller, is he a Democrat?
Stephen, well, what has Stephen Miller said here that you're referencing?
Is he a Republican?
Yeah.
He believed that it's most likely that these officers did not use proper protocol.
Now, you can also Google that as well and you can go over.
See, do you know what most likely means?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Does most likely he believes that they did most of their protests?
Does this most likely mean he did?
They did or they didn't?
Or does it just mean, I think right now, maybe.
We're stuck in the Andrew Wilson word semantics.
Here's the bottom line.
We have two.
Listen, it's super important.
Okay, so here's the bottom line.
We have, I don't think there's anything funny about this.
I hope we could agree on this.
We have two American citizens that are dead.
We had had 3,000 ICE agents deployed out there to Minneapolis, which I believe was unnecessary to begin with.
If they were found out to be Antifa, are you going to call them domestic terrorists?
Who's the leader of Antifa?
I'm just asking you if you found out that I'm just asking you because I don't know what is you mean anti-fascist?
I'm anti-fascist.
Oh, so you remember?
Of course, here we go.
No, I'm anti-fascist.
So can you tell me who is funding Antifa and where are their headquarters?
Yeah, that's not what a terrorist group.
You don't have to have to have leaders of terrorist groups or organized leaders.
So tell me something about, tell me who's funding them and who's leading them.
So let's start.
Yeah, we'll start with all of the NGOs which assisted in No King's Day.
I have an extensive list of over 500 of them who assist with the financing of these organized protests.
That doesn't mean they're going to be signal group chats, which show the vast organization between these various protesters, how they're going to agitate, cause problems, burn stuff down, break shit.
That sounds a whole lot like organized terrorism to me.
Well, so if it sounds like something and you don't know where they're getting funded, you don't know who the leader is.
No, no, no.
I just told you I know where they're getting funded.
There's over 500 NGOs I can cite.
Well, you said in this conversation that you believe Renee Good was in Antifa, right?
You just made that up.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
I do just made it up.
Okay.
So you agree with me then.
So you agree.
Okay, then if I misspoke out.
What was my question?
My question was, if it's found out that they were members of Antifa, would you then consider them to be domestic terrorists?
That's my question.
I don't believe Antifa is an organization, let alone a domestic group.
I think everybody has different intentions.
I believe if you show up to a protest and if you're committing a crime, then I obviously don't defend that.
I think there's a lot of people that show up to protest that do not commit crimes, that are not members of hate groups.
No, look, I agree with that.
I'm asking if we find out that they have direct dealings with known members of Antifa, right, and are participating in signal chats and other things with these Antifa people in order to agitate and possibly conduct some sort of domestic violence or break things or start fires or things like this or coordinating to do that.
Would you then consider them to be domestic terrorists?
As you do know they don't you don't think Antifa is domestic terrorist, right?
Kids Believe Trump Raises Flags 00:16:23
In general terms, here's what I will say to that.
One sec, guys.
First of all, there's no evidence to show that now.
Let's be very clear on that.
Nobody's shown any evidence.
I'm not saying that.
I'm asking you if it's the case.
In general, I'm going to speak in general terms.
If anybody is working in an organized crime fashion to show up at protest and commit crimes or violent acts, absolutely.
Because as I've said from day one, whether you're right or left, it could be a Black Lives Matter protest where you were just there to be an agitator and commit crimes, or it could be January 6th.
If you're there to commit crimes, then I've always called that out.
And by the way, I've begged people in Minneapolis to not commit crimes, peacefully protest.
You can use your whistle.
You can blow your horn and do all that stuff, but don't, well, you can laugh, but that's not breaking the law, Andrew.
We're talking about that, Andrew.
But I do think that the coordination, which has been now demonstrated through these signal chats, is incredible.
And we're just going to gloss over there.
And that's fine.
We'll just gloss over that.
But the thing is, is like, look, because it's narrow, the debate prop here is narrow.
We're talking about justification.
I don't think that you've demonstrated that there was no justification, only that you kind of just feel that there wasn't based on how you feel.
Yeah, it's literally that's, and this is why this is an unwinnable argument for any of these progressives.
Because it is justified and they can't accept that.
On the evidence and based on the evidence.
Okay.
Based on, did you hear what I just said?
Video.
The evidence that has been released so far and my own two eyes.
No.
And I've given you reasons why I believe that.
And I think it's a superior position to make sure that you have the facts of the matter.
Okay.
Well, again, I go back to what I said earlier.
I wish you held that same criticism towards people in our government, like the leader of the debate.
And I'm happy to dive into those criticisms in a debate where we're talking about that.
Can we move on, though, to, because we've beaten this dead horse.
Can we move on to the Epstein stuff now?
Yeah, go ahead.
Start.
Okay.
I'll let you start this time.
All right.
So the first thing is, is I took some time to go through a bunch of the various complaints by many of the Jane Does.
They call them different things, but I'm just for the purpose of this going to say Jane Doe.
I'm sure you've read a bunch of these, right?
Yes.
And you DM'd me and said that you believe these women, right?
Do you want my position?
I'll give you a 30-second synopsis and then you can go from there.
You said you think we should believe women.
That's what you said.
I believe the victims.
That's what you said.
I think in, well, I'll give you my basic synopsis of my opinion here.
I'm not arguing, Andrew, that guilt has been legally proven.
That's not my argument, Andrew.
What I am arguing.
I'm not asking for that.
Hold on.
Let me just give you my 30-second synopsis here and then go.
I'll shut up.
I'm arguing that the volume and the consistency and the seriousness of the allegations combined with, I don't think you disagree with me.
Trump's own documented associations make it reasonable and responsible to question his conduct rather than just blindly dismiss these concerns.
I think that's my basic.
Then why did you text me and say that you believe the women?
Well, in general terms, I tend to believe victims.
I don't immediately usually say, oh, I don't believe that person.
In general terms, Andrew, I think if you're a decent human being, you say, unless it's proven.
So do you believe these women or not, Brian?
Again, I go back to what I said earlier.
When you look at his history and you look at the seriousness of these allegations and his history, 25 plus women accusing him of rape or sexual assault.
I can get into the details of the 20 plus young girls and all the allegations and Epstein false.
We can get into that.
Yeah, so I'm not.
Okay, go ahead.
I'm not, Andrew.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah.
So what you're saying is I just want to make sure I got it right.
At the core of the position is if you follow sort of Trump's conduct and his history and his past and everything, and you kind of put that together, it gives you more of a belief structure that these things could lean potentially true rather than false.
Could.
I think it's reasonable, as I said, and responsible to question this conduct than to blindly dismiss it.
And again, let me let me preface.
Like, for instance, hang on.
I just want to go through a couple of these just to make sure.
And these aren't gotchas.
I just want to make sure that we're on the same page, right?
Because some of this stuff is pretty reprehensible that these women are saying.
There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
For instance, Jane Doe, number two, you know, she made some serious allegations of grape and stuff like that, right?
Like serious allegations.
Jane Doe, 12, he said that Trump was bragging after he called her a slut.
That sounds like it's in line with Trump from your view.
What, that he might have called somebody a slut?
And then bragged and then bragged after.
Yeah, but that's not a crime.
I know, I know.
No, no, no.
After, well, he had done these things, but then he said he called her a slut.
Yeah, whether he called somebody a slut or not is not.
And then there was another one.
This one was interesting, and I'll give credit where credit's due.
You remember Trump called that reporter a piggy?
Yes.
Yeah.
So Jane Doe.
Yeah, Jane Doe, number 13, said that he called her a pig as well.
So that would be in line.
Okay.
So you would consider that in line as well with Trump's behavior?
Again, it's not, that's not my concern.
Yeah, but would it be in line with Trump's behavior from your view?
What, name-calling?
I mean, I guess, but I think it's more serious, the allegations of sexual assault.
Also, you know, multiple witnesses.
I think this is important.
Well, there were multiple witnesses.
According to this, there's multiple witnesses.
They had a chance of, you know, perjury is a very serious crime, and they were under oath.
Well, hang on, let me just get through that important.
Yeah, to make sure, because what we're doing is we're calling into question Trump's character here.
Yeah, the name calling is not as important as the sexual assault allegations.
I think that history is far more important than name calling and calling somebody Miss Piggy or whatever you were referring to.
And then there was another victim.
And this apparently, he said that he was that Trump had called her multiple times and had also contacted her multiple times.
And he had used a lot of off-color language as well.
He called her a bitch, also called her a slut, called her these things.
And a lot of this is being used as the justification for this is in line with the character of Trump.
Do you agree with that, that these things would lend some credibility to the character of Trump?
Yeah, I'm not interested in name-calling, Andrew.
To me, that's not what's relevant.
What's relevant are the sexual allegations, people that have been- Yeah, but what are the things that lead you to believe that Trump would have engaged in these things?
Sure, sure, sure.
I can give you a list, but as you know, Trump had a long-standing social relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, later convicted on trafficking minors.
Trump publicly acknowledged that Epstein's interest in younger girls.
When someone maintains close ties, in my personal opinion, with a known trafficker of minors and speaks casually about that behavior, I think that raises flags.
That's number one.
You know, a woman filed a lawsuit, as you know, Andrew, and we're not going to mention names here.
I think that's inappropriate.
She says that he raped her when she was property.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry, the other one.
Sorry.
I'm happy.
I'm happy to talk about EGE Carroll with you, but right now we're not doing that.
We're talking about Episcopal.
So the case was withdrawn, but it was not adjudicated.
And withdrawn cases, as you know, Andrew, are not proof of innocence.
They often reflect fear.
I would also say and a lack of resources.
Now, this is important, establishing, at least in my personal opinion, establishing a pattern of sexual misconduct allegations where you have multiple women that have accused Trump of sexual misconduct.
You know, when credible allegations appear, and repeatedly, Andrew, over and over and over again, I also believe it's reasonable to question whether more serious misconduct could also have occurred.
And I think that's very fair.
Sexual abuse of minors is widely underreported.
I think you know that.
Unfortunately, I wish that wasn't the case, Andrew, but powerful figures now.
Now, just give me 20 more seconds and I'll land my plan and I'll show you.
Sure, go ahead.
Thank you.
And I promise I will.
Powerful figures, as you know, often benefit from NDAs, from intimidation, from statute of limitations.
Epstein avoided accountability for years, despite, as we know, all these victims.
So, in my personal opinion, this raises concerns.
These are credible allegations.
I think it's reasonable to question them.
These are patterns of behavior.
I'm not asking anyone to abandon due process.
I'm asking that we take these allegations involving minors seriously.
And by the way, there's 3 million files that are still not been released.
These are the files that we know have already.
Can I respond?
Can I respond here?
Yes.
Okay.
So, the first question I have is: why do you say that Trump rapes kids then?
I said, I believe in my personal opinion.
If you're asking me if I had to go one way or the other, I personally believe.
No, no, nobody, you don't have to go one way or the other, but you say emphatically, as a matter of fact, that Trump is a popular person.
You can be in the middle.
You can be in the middle on this issue.
I believe that Donald Trump, in my personal opinion, based on what I just told you, in my personal opinion, I believe that there is enough of a history and enough allegations.
I'm eating blueberries, guys, and a protein shake or sorry, a protein bar.
And a man who sexualized his own daughter and bragged about going into teenage girls' locks.
Can you account?
Yeah, yeah.
Do you believe that Trump molests kids?
I believe the victims.
I believe the victims in the Epstein falls.
You take that for what you want.
That's the way I'm going to answer.
Do you believe that Trump rapes kids, like you say?
I believe the victims in the Epstein Falls.
Okay, that's not what I asked you.
So I'm going to ask very specifically.
Your exact quote was: you don't essay Trump or kids like Trump does.
What are the allegations in the Epstein Falls?
What are these women?
What are the allegations?
It depends on which one.
They were raped, right?
Yeah, but they were sexually abused.
So, can we start with this?
Right, right.
Do you believe that Trump essays kids or not?
I'm spelling it out for you.
I need you.
I need to need a yes or no.
Does Trump essay?
I'm going to answer it the way I would like to answer it.
Does Trump essay kids?
I'm going to answer it.
Yes or no, Brian.
I need you to pay attention.
I need you to say yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
He does.
Yes.
So here's why I feel that way.
I feel that way.
So I believe the well, it's an opinion, Andrew.
I just gave you.
I just gave you my opinion.
And I just gave you.
I'm not saying anybody should abandon due process, like I said before.
And I understand that there are no criminal convictions.
I understand that.
Absence of proof, as you know, is not proof of absence.
And in the case involving minors, which obviously we have here in the Epstein falls, and very powerful individuals, as you know, to my knowledge, other than Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell, no one's else really been held to account.
And there, we know that there are a lot of children that were molested.
I can't even imagine.
I'm not, again, there's no criminal conviction.
What's your strongest piece of evidence that Trump ever essayed a child ever?
Effort.
First of all, as I mentioned, multiple witnesses that risked.
Yeah, which one specifically?
I'd like to pull up who they are and what their actual allegations are.
Which one?
So I don't have all three million of the files in front of me.
I can get you that information if you'd like it, or you can Google it again right now.
You're very good at Googling.
But what I will tell you, and if I'm wrong, you can't reference a single one.
You can believe that this guy essayed kids, but you can't even name a single case.
Of any of the people who claimed that he did.
So just because I can't mention their name doesn't mean that it's on the Epstein film.
Give me the case.
Give me just a case.
And you can call me a liar.
Well, in the case of the 13-year-old that we were talking about, there's one man.
I don't have his name.
I went through a lot of the highlights, for lack of a better term, that were in the files.
By the way, I think, what, 3 million files have already been released?
There's another 3 million.
Yeah, let's stick to the facts of this.
Which one did you find?
Which testimony do you find the most compelling from who?
I found witnesses that testified, particularly the one where the 13-year-old girl, and I'm not going to say her name, alleged that Donald Trump raped her, graped her.
And there was a gentleman that testified as well under oath with the risk of perjury, by the way.
I think that's up to 20 years in jail.
And here's what's most compelling to me in the 20 plus cases here that we've already seen in these files.
And they've only released like half, which I find pretty incredible.
Is that I look at a lot of different things collectively of why I come to this conclusion.
Yes, of course.
As I've said before, I look at the way Donald Trump has lived his life.
I look at all the allegations that have come forward before.
We can talk about E.Gene Carroll if you'd like.
That would have no bearing on whether or not Trump says kids, right?
Well, it's funny.
It's interesting because you bring up context when it comes to Predi about being a professional.
I'm just looking at the piece of evidence.
Hold on a second here.
Hold on a second.
I find this interesting.
This is important.
11 days before Predi died, you brought up the fact about him kicking a card.
He's a professional agitator.
Actually, I separated the two issues.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
But you still brought it up.
Actually, I don't actually think I'm not sure I did say that on social media.
You did.
You did on your social media page.
What did I say?
While I don't have the tweet right in front of me, you did call him a professional agitator, did you not?
I actually, I don't think I did.
No, you called him a profit.
I'm not saying I didn't, but I don't think I did, actually.
I read it.
I read it earlier today.
I went in your social media feed.
Yes.
You sure I said that?
Yes, 100%.
You called him a professional agitator.
It was either in one of your tweets or in a DM, but I know you said it.
And I can provide that for you if you'd like, because I'm not making that up out of thin air.
So you look at that content.
I don't think I tweeted that.
I don't.
Someone's behavior.
You might have put it in my DMs.
11 days before.
Yeah, I don't care about any of that.
I want to know what your best evidence says that Trump is.
Here's what I care about.
Well, here's what I care about.
What's the proof?
What's your best evidence?
I'm giving it to you.
Okay.
The best evidence, I could probably name you 100 different reasons, but when you see a man who has 25 plus women that have accused him of sexual assault or rape, when you see a guy who was proud proved liable for sexually abusing Egyptian Carroll, by the way, the judge in that case defined it as rape.
When you see a guy that was best friends with Jeffrey Epstein for 10 years, we learned in the Maxwell trial, he was on the flight log eight separate times.
We have Jeffrey Epstein on tape calling him his best friend.
Best Evidence Matters 00:15:14
When you have multiple women, I'm going to grant everything you just said is being correct.
I'm just going to grant it.
Everything.
What's your best piece of evidence?
What's your best piece of evidence?
I'm giving you an entire list.
No, I just want your best piece.
What's your best piece of evidence that Trump essays kids that you believe?
You believe that.
Remember, you believe he does.
What's your best piece of evidence for that?
Your best one.
So I wasn't putting them in order, but I would say, quite frankly, the evidence to me that is most alarming is what I read in the Epstein files and what witnesses and what young girls at the time reported to the FBI.
Which young girl was the most compelling to you?
Which young?
I think all of them are compelling.
All of them are compelling.
Even the ones that are anonymous tipsters are very compelling to you.
I think the women that have come forward that wrote written statements to the FBI, and I think anybody that risked.
How many women did that?
I think I have it in my multiple women.
I think three or four women under the possibility of perjury.
And did the FBI say that several of those were not credible?
Under oath as young girls.
Well, guess what?
It's interesting.
That's your defense.
Other than, and here's why you're making my point for me.
Other than Jazane Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, has anyone else ever been held to account for anything that happened at Epstein Island or around Jeffrey Epstein?
Prince Andrew was.
Anybody like criminally held to account?
Anybody?
I don't think so.
You don't think so.
So is it fair to say a hypothesis of there's probably some people out there that did some very bad things?
Yeah, that has nothing to do with your evidence.
No, it has ever whether.
No, I want your evidence.
Trump essays kids.
I want your evidence.
What is your evidence?
I've given you nothing.
If you're asking me for DNA evidence.
No, I'm not asking for DNA evidence.
I'm asking for even credible witness testimony.
Credible.
So you don't think any of these victims are credible?
No.
In fact, neither did the FBI, for the most part, didn't think any of them were credible.
And let's take a look here at the one that you talk about.
So none of the victims.
I'm talking about the people who withdrew it.
Withdrew it.
That's true.
Right.
And not only that, let's point this out.
Let's point this out, Brian.
None of that is good and compelling evidence that Trump has ever essayed a kid.
None of it.
None of it is compelling.
So why do you believe it?
Why do you just believe?
Hey, guys, I'm working on getting my brother in here right now.
We're just handling some sound stuff on the side, but he's going to join us shortly.
So first of all, Andrew doesn't believe it.
Hold on.
Andrew doesn't believe it because it was withdrawn.
And let me repeat myself once again.
Yeah, that's right.
There's no good evidence that is not saying when you withdraw a cause, that is not proof of innocence.
It's not proof of guilt.
Let me just finish here.
Because as I've said before, it often reflects a lot of fear, a lot of pressure, a lack of damage.
And it can also reflect that they're lying, right?
It could.
And if you want to claim a claim, if you're making that claim that this 13-year-old girl is lying, you have the right to your opinion.
No, no, no.
I don't need to make any claim.
I don't need to make any claim except this.
There is no compelling evidence anywhere that Trump has essayed a kid.
What's your most compelling piece?
The 13-year-old's not a compelling piece of evidence.
What's the most compelling piece?
Well, again, that's your opinion.
Now, what you're saying is because there's no DNA evidence.
No, not just DNA.
We would want eyewitnesses.
We would want a lot of corroboration.
We would want a lot of corroboration.
We'd want times.
We'd want dates.
We'd want specifics.
That way there could be justification for alibis, things like this.
And many of these were investigated, by the way, these claims, and they were rejected for being unfounded on their face.
Right.
And so guess what?
I got some news for you.
Is is like Brian, what's your most compelling piece of evidence other than I feel like he does that he does?
Yep.
So let me just start by saying Jeffrey Epstein avoided any accountability for decades, right?
For decades, avoided any accountability for anything he did.
And there are a lot of powerful figures.
Tangential has nothing to do with what we're discussing.
What's your best piece of evidence that Donald Trump essays kids?
Because you say that all the time.
Again, collectively, in my personal opinion, as I've mentioned, probably 20 different reasons why I feel the way I feel.
I don't put them one, two, three, four, five.
Now, I wish that people would be held to account.
I fear that that's probably not going to happen here.
But when I look at Donald Trump's history, when I look at a lot of substantial claims of sexual abuse, when I look at who he surrounded himself with.
Oh, no, there's not.
First of all, on the substantial claims of sexual abuse, what person who's credible, in your opinion, based on what you've read about their testimony, has credibly said that as a child, Trump essayed them.
Which credible one can we point to here?
All of them.
All of them are credible.
Even the ones who the FBI says are not credible.
Even the ones who photos anonymously, they're credible.
The reason why I say that.
The reason why I say that is because other than Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, nobody else has been held to account because I believe some of these very powerful people have been protected.
Now, listen, if 3 million more files are released, and keep in mind, that's another factor here.
Only half of the files have been released.
And some of these files have been completely redacted.
In some of these files, they actually release the name of the victim, which is atrocious.
They're not supposed to do that.
And then the rest of the page is blacked out.
So that's another part of this equation that I think is very important.
I look at Donald Trump's behavior after the fact.
He calls anybody stupid who talks about the Epstein files.
They have done anything and everything they could to block all of these files from being released and they continue to break the law.
So when Jane, so when one of the Jane Does says that in one of her complaints, because she's very credible, that what these guys did was they got around and put their fingers in their vagina to adjust to see how tight which ones were before they sold them as sex slaves on the open market.
You think that's credible?
You don't think it's credible?
Is that all you're asking?
Of course not.
But you think it is, right?
It's not credible.
No, it's the most ridiculous thing I ever fucking heard.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah, you think Donald Trump put his fingers in little kids in their insides so that he could determine whether or not they were tight enough to sell into sex slavery, Brian?
You believe that?
I will stop.
That's credible.
I just want to make sure that's credible to you.
I'm not going to say that that person was lying.
I'm not going to say she was lying.
Absolutely not.
And I would also say that it was proven that Donald Trump was found liable for penetrating with his fingers eating Carol in a dressing room.
The judge characterized it as rape.
A jury of his peers found that he was liable for sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll.
There's 25 other women that have come forward that have either accused him of rape or sexual assault, including his ex-wife, by the way, in court documents.
And then he paid her off for that to go away.
She accused him of rape as well, by the way.
I don't know if you were even aware of that.
So there's a lot of things that we could put in place where I say that's very plausible and I believe the victims.
And as far as the Epstein files go and all the powerful people and how they've hid the Epstein files and how Donald Trump continued and his administration continue to break the law, my understanding, 3 million more files that have not yet to be released.
Yeah, I think these are credible allegations.
I disagree with you.
And I believe, based on Donald Trump's past and history of bragging about going into teenage girls' locker rooms, knowingly hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein and being his friend, knowing as he said on the record, he likes young girls, spending a lot of time with Jeffrey Epstein.
I do believe these victims.
Yes, I do.
I believe these victims.
And if you don't believe them, because there's not DNA, smoke and gun evidence, I look at somebody's history.
I look at their background.
I track it back.
There we go.
Andrew.
And that's why, Brian, if you want to, Brian, I just want to make sure that I got this right.
You find, you believe this person when they say that Trump was in a room with a bunch of powerful elites and had girls around where they would check their depths before selling them into sex slavery.
That's credible.
I heard that.
I just want to yes or no.
That's credible to you.
Did that help?
Yes.
Yes or no?
Is that credible?
Yes or no?
Is that credible to you?
I want the context of that statement.
Was that statement made to the FBI with the threat of perjury?
It was called in as a tip, I believe.
It was called in as a tip.
Was that one of those?
Was that one of the allegations that was put on record with the FBI with threat of perjury if they were lying?
There was very few of those.
Okay, but those specifications.
So you said 20.
You said 20.
You said you believe 20 plus.
These were the main ones which were highlighted in the Epstein files.
Do you think that that's credible?
So I'm not going to say it's not true.
I don't know.
Here's what I do know.
There are a lot of very substantial, very disgusting claims in those files that were already released.
Imagine how bad it is for the 3 million files that have yet to be released.
This is what we know.
Now, I don't know whether that happened or not, but what I'm telling you is, yes, I do believe that Donald Trump did some horrible things.
How many of these complaints have you read?
I haven't read every single one of them.
How many of them have the more important ones?
Which one, Michael?
How many of you have?
Well, which ones are the most important?
I spent, well, I spent last night going through a significant amount of them.
So give me something else you think is not credible.
Oh, man.
Some of these are fucking wild.
Let me pull.
I don't think this is funny.
It just optically.
It looks.
Oh, shit.
Hold on, guys.
My audio is low.
I'll fix this.
Keyless, Brian.
I think that that allegation is fucking.
All right, guys.
I know why.
It's because I'm using fucking Zoom.
My brother's on a Zoom right now and it lowered my thing, but that's fine.
My audio is back.
Yeah.
I mean, look, the files look weird.
And right now, me and my brother are figuring this out right now, guys, with the audio and shit like that.
But he is on a Zoom right now with me.
We're just finding a way where he can play video.
So I'll keep letting this rock for a little bit and we're going to get going here in a little bit with him.
Minnie.
Andrew, got to give me time to respond.
And I'm going to reach out to you in a second as well.
Minnie, Brian.
Put a number on it.
Stop for a second.
Can you put a number on it, Brian?
How many?
Okay, first of all.
How many, Brian?
First of all, I'm going to answer your question, but you got to stop talking.
You're a filibuster machine.
Just tell me how many.
How many of you are out?
You're a Trump defending.
Brian, I just want to know how many Brian.
I just want to know how many.
So how many have you?
I don't have an exact number of these statements that I read.
Okay, roughly.
Roughly how many?
Roughly.
I don't know, maybe a dozen, maybe a dozen.
You read through a dozen.
And here's what I want to say.
Andrew, I just answered your question.
You're such a lying sack of shit.
You didn't read a dozen complaints.
Give me any details.
Yeah, give me details from four of them.
Give me details from four of these complaints.
Let me tell you what I think a sack of shit is because that's what you just called me.
Lying sack.
I think a sack of shit, excuse me.
I think a sack of shit is somebody that thinks this is funny.
We're talking about a lot of underage kids, whether it was Donald Trump who did it or not, a lot of young children and some whole.
I don't think it's funny what happened with Epstein.
I think it's funny that he believes things that are absurd.
That's what I'm saying.
Stop interrupting me and stop spurging out.
You're the one who's spurging out.
You scream at the top of your lungs.
I think that sexual molestation of kids is funny.
I don't think there's anything funny about this.
Do I think everything in the Epstein files is true?
Probably not.
But what I do believe is a lot of children were molested.
Some horrible things happened.
There's a lot of people that should be held to account.
And here's something else I do.
Clinton.
People like you laugh at this stuff.
I'm not laughing at your stuff.
I was laughing.
I hear your belief in the middle.
Hold on.
They can hear you.
In your opinion, you made an affirmative claim that Trump essays kids and you have no evidence.
All right, play the audio.
Guys, sorry, I'm doing a quick little soundtrack on my brother.
Yeah, hit the play the audio, see if it works.
I got him on Zoom right now, as you guys can see.
He's right here.
Play the audio from that video.
Does it work?
It's playing.
It's playing right now.
No, I can't hear it.
I can't hear it.
I'm going to keep playing the debate here with Andrew and Brian while we try to figure this shit out.
I'll text you.
Sorry, Chad.
Evidence for that.
Let's talk about it.
Which of those do you think are credible?
I think every single who has made the claim under oath, anybody under oath with the threat of perjury, anybody under oath that has claimed that Donald Trump sexually assaulted them, I find all of them credible.
I can't be more clear to you than that.
Now, there's a difference between somebody who just calls in something and somebody who's actually under oath.
You said you believe that 20.
You said you believe that 20 plus.
All right.
Well, let me ask you a question, Andrew.
How many people made statements to the FBI?
Not just somebody who just called in, but somebody who had the threat of perjury.
Do you know, since you seem to have read them all, give me a number.
How many people have actually made claims with the threat of perjury?
Witnesses and alleged victims.
How many?
I believe it's less than four.
You believe it's less than four?
No.
I can pull up.
I think it is.
Who actually committed to something?
Yes, I think that's the case.
I believe you're wrong.
It's more.
How many more?
How many?
I believe it's more than four.
Well, how many is that?
So I don't know, but I believe it's more than four.
And I would also say that towards Trump.
You think it's more than four towards Trump.
That's what we're talking about.
Hang on, based on Donald Trump.
You think it's more than four towards Trump that swore affidavits.
Andrew that Trump did bad things to him.
Let me ask you.
Hang on, I want to make sure we're clear.
I think it's more than four.
That swore out affidavits to the police that Trump essayed them when they were kids.
Made statements either to the FBI or law enforcement and/or witnesses.
And prove it.
I think it's more than four.
And prove it.
Sure.
Sure.
I will gladly send you that information.
No, just do it now.
Go through it.
Unlike you, I don't Google and, you know, you don't verify your own facts.
Oh, no.
I believe it's more than four.
You claim that it was only four.
So I'll go back.
No, Actually, I think I claim that it's less than four who actually swore out affidavits.
So how many people, including witnesses and alleged victims, made statements to the FBI for Donald Trump's alleged improprieties?
How many?
You're saying less than four?
Evidence or Absence Thereof 00:10:00
No, that's not what I said.
I was very specific.
We were talking about how many went and swore out complaints, some kind of complaint, right?
That's an affidavit.
Yes, it was, Brian.
I said people that are on the record that made statements, either witnesses or alleged victims to law enforcement with the threat of perjury, because as you know, you can't make a statement.
Well, how many did that actually untrue?
I actually don't know how many did that.
Well, how many?
I believe, I believe it's more than four.
And we can look into that and we can find out, Andrew.
I think you're wrong.
Maybe I'm wrong.
We will find out.
But you are making the case right here that based on Donald Trump's history and his relationship with Epstein and the way that they've treated Jazane Maxwell and the fact they've been so secretive in breaking the law, by the way, and not releasing all the files.
Do you know that they've only released about 50% of the films?
Yeah, we're talking about is whether or not if you have a justified belief that Trump essays kids.
I've already answered that question.
I've already told you how I feel.
Yeah, I believe Donald Trump is a sexual abuser.
Yeah, and your evidence is basically not.
You have no evidence for this claim.
You just make it all the time.
I think most people.
No, you don't know.
Most people don't think Trump essays kids, dude.
That's ridiculous.
I think, okay, well, you know what?
You don't speak luckily.
That's ridiculous.
I think what you're saying is that.
They voted him into office.
What do you mean?
They don't think he essays kids.
Who voted him into office?
Who voted him into office?
Millions upon millions of people.
And he got the popular vote, bro.
What do you mean?
Did more than 50% of the people that voted vote for Donald Trump?
What does that have to do with anything?
Well, you just said they voted for, and I just want to define.
You're making it seem like most of the country.
I don't even think most Democrats voted against Trump because they thought he essays kids.
I don't even think that's the case, Brian.
Okay, well, I guess you speak for all Americans then, Andrew.
I didn't know that.
Can you show me any compelling evidence that people that there's some overwhelming consensus that people think Trump essays children, bro?
Did you think there was a lot of physical evidence that Bill Cosby raped women?
Actually, yes.
There ended up being quite a bit of physical evidence.
Yeah.
What was it?
Yeah, like, for instance, the Kwalud thing, right?
There was a whole bunch of people who came forward and said that he bought Kwaludes from them.
Okay, got you.
I agree.
There's a whole bunch of people that have come forward that have claimed Donald Trump has raped them.
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
Hang on, hang on.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
When we were talking about Cosby stuff, right?
Do you agree with me that you need to have credible eyewitness testimony where they can give the time, the place, the events, what they were doing, and then show evidence for that?
Not all the time.
But in the Cosby case, in the Cosby case, they did, right?
So I know in the Cosby case, they did do that, right?
So I know a woman.
Hang on, hang on.
In the Cosby case, they did do that, right?
To an extent, but not every woman did that.
Yeah, not everyone's about to make it.
The thing is, it's like when we're talking about credibility here, I need time.
We need to talk about credibility.
We need time, event, place, corroborating witnesses and evidences.
What is the most compelling one of these witnesses that has provided that?
But just going back quickly to what you just said about Bill Cosby, it's estimated that he did this to hundreds of women.
He was only convicted for one woman.
I know a woman by the name of Lisa Latte.
Has nothing to do with anything.
Has nothing to do with having it?
Has to do with the fact of you're not always going to have, especially when a rape occurred.
Why can't I just say that about you?
What would make me wrong if I said, if I said, hang on a second, if I went out publicly and started saying, Brian essays kids, so glad that would your defense be sure, what would your defense be?
Yeah, guys, I know you guys are saying that I'm muted or whatever.
I'm talking to my brother right now, figuring out the audio so that we can go live here in a second with him.
So don't worry, guys.
I'm still here.
I'm just talking to my brother on the phone.
All right.
Don't worry.
So starting with, I wasn't best friends with one of the biggest sex traffickers on the planet.
My name isn't all.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I'm answering your question.
My name isn't all over the Epstein Falls.
Nobody's ever alleged that I have sex trafficking.
You would look at the quality of the evidence.
I'm not done yet.
I'm not done yet.
I've never bragged about going into teenage girls' locker rooms without their permission.
By the way, with cooperating witnesses who have said, yes, Donald Trump went in there and saw me half naked when I was 15 years old.
No, again, I've never been accused.
You would have sexualize my teenage daughter.
You asked me a question and I'm fucking answering it.
Okay.
It would be the quality of the evidence.
Any of these things.
I haven't said or done any of these things that a man who you can continue.
But that doesn't mean technically you didn't do it, right, Brian?
Even if none of that's true about you, it doesn't technically mean you didn't do it, right?
That absence of evidence.
Hang on, Brian, an absence of evidence isn't an evidence of absence, right, Brian?
Sure.
So what would we bank on to demonstrate that you didn't do this to?
As I have said, and at least what I believe and what I've said all along is that I'm not arguing that it's already, it's been legally proven.
I didn't say that, Brian.
I am asking for your evidence for why you would even do that.
And I have and stated as though it's a fact to people, including in your terms.
I have answered that question and I told you and I already.
So here, let me draw a parallel real quick.
Let me draw a parallel.
Hang on, hang on, real quick.
Let me draw a parallel.
But let's say I'm in a DM conversation with like, I don't know, some woman that you know or something.
And I'm like, you know, that guy essays kids, right?
And she's like, well, what do you mean?
No, no, he does.
Well, he says that, you know, he doesn't.
And, you know, he's not on the Epstein files.
And he doesn't do this.
And he didn't do any of this other stuff that Trump did.
And I said to her, yeah, but you got to understand, the absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
So I still believe that he just went ahead and essayed kids anyway.
What would your defense to her be then?
Well, as I've mentioned over and over again, circular in this conversation is who he was friends with.
And by the way, I'm not arguing the criminality.
Hang on, hang on.
We already established that none of this is true of you, but it's the authenticity of these allegations overall.
But there's something.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
How would you then defend yourself?
As I've said a million times, volume consistency and the seriousness of the allegations are why I feel the way I feel and his history.
Yeah, but can you answer the question of how would you then defend yourself in this hypothetical?
How would you then defend yourself if I just said the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence?
Yeah, after you make the case, but I'm not on the Epstein files and this and that.
How would you then defend it yourself?
I would say what's your, I would say, what's your circumstantial evidence?
Oh.
I've already given you mine of why I feel Donald Trump has done some pretty awful things.
He's obviously all over the files.
We've said that.
And this is a guy who was already found liable for sexual abuse.
This is a guy who sexualized his teenage daughter.
This is a guy who bragged about going into teenage.
And you do agree with me.
None of that's evidence he's ever essayed a child ever.
I think it's circumstantial evidence.
None of it's circumstantial evidence he ever essayed a child.
When you have any of that evidence he essayed a child ever.
I think some people could use that as evidence.
Absolutely.
I know I know how is that evidence for you?
No, my question specifically is, is any of the things you just mentioned evidence Trump ever essayed a child?
Yeah, I think some of it is.
And I think the problem is that what would be evidence Trump essayed a child's what?
Here's the problem with this conversation.
Unfortunately, there's a lot of minors and women in society and they never get justice.
Unfortunately, there's a lot of rapists out there.
I wish, by the way, I wish that wasn't the case.
And you're making the case of, well, what's your smoking gun?
Do you have DNA evidence?
Because you don't have a smoking gun.
It couldn't have happened.
And I disagree with you.
I think it very well could have happened based on all the things that I have spoken about in this conversation.
None of the things that happen.
None of the things.
And he hasn't been proven in court that are tangential to this, demonstrate in any capacity or lend any credibility to the accusation that Trump SA's kids.
None of it.
And not only that.
When I asked you, if I used the same argument, like tangentially to somebody that you knew, right, within a hypothetical, how would you defend yourself?
You would say by attacking, by attacking the evidence itself.
And in this case, the lack thereof to say that I have an unjustified belief.
But you don't hold the standard with Trump.
So first of all, I would say, as I've talked to you about earlier in this conversation, yes, I do believe the victims that have come forward.
And part of the reason why I believe that, not just E. Jing Carol, also his ex-wife, who said under oath, not children.
Okay, but when you have a history of sexual abuse, in this case, it doesn't mean that you essayed kids.
And there's no evidence of that.
But it certainly doesn't help your defense of it and you're all the Epstein files.
You're pressing her.
If I granted that Trump essayed every woman of press conference, the thing is, I can't hesitate.
I'm not a kid ever.
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So what is your evidence that you need?
You need DNA or video?
Is that the only way you would believe it, Andrew?
I would believe it with corroborating evidence, right?
Based around the circumstances.
There are ways to go.
Hang on.
Hang on, Ann.
Stop, Brian.
I'm telling you.
That's verifiable.
All right.
Sorry, guys.
I think we got it figured out, though.
Let me read some super chats, guys.
And then I'm going to bring my bro in and we're going to have a discussion on some of this stuff.
Actually, we can even bring him in to join in on this debate breakdown.
Okay.
Let's see here.
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Okay, we got that one.
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I was genuinely curious.
Yeah, I don't have a problem with FitX.
I just haven't seen him in forever.
Today's birthday, our birthday.
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After World War II, many Nazis fled to Argentina.
Why are there Jays there?
Because a lot of them went there, too.
Shapiro would never ask, would never ever be in a situation where he would have to defend his life.
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Andrew says, Myron Gaines.
Brian says, I don't believe Holocaust in ours.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the debate.
Yeah, of course, bro.
He's an idiot.
Garcia made, has the question been made?
What would be the result if he didn't have a gun with that same sequence of actions made?
I'm confused what your question is there.
With DevC Files pulling the current back and exposing how deep the corruption really runs, how do you see America's future playing out?
Well, it doesn't look good optically.
I'll tell you that.
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Boxing the spectator sees all the angles and replays, but the loser of the fight won't know what they actually did until they watch the tape.
But in the fight, they felt like they won.
I don't get why go against lawfulness of this.
Happy birthday, Myron.
I'm glad that you got your Instagram back.
Appreciate that, man.
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Martin was not named in Epstein files.
You know that, Brett.
Hey, Marin, I know it's not Money Monday, but I have a $7.59 credit score and only have one credit card with my local bank with 15K's bedding limit.
Should I stay with that?
Or do you recommend I get another?
Yeah, get more credit cards.
Here's what you guys got.
You want to have one.
You always want to have one cashback credit card, one travel credit card, and then one credit card for business if you have a business.
That's how you do it.
That's the meta.
That is the meta.
Let's see what else we got here.
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It's going to be hard to get in at 23, bro, unless you're going to have to get some professional experience.
But still apply.
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Eh, could happen.
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Question for life skills.
You're great at not getting triggered by one because they're subordinates.
I get that.
One mindset or framework.
Do you avoid to getting triggered with liberal people when you debate them?
Just got to stay calm.
Guys, happy birthday.
Thank you.
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Nice.
Appreciate that.
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Are you doing a cause debate this Wednesday in South Carolina?
I might do it on 13th.
Sean's telling me that it might rain.
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I know you don't care about your birthday.
Yeah, I never do, Ben.
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Yeah, I don't like telling people my birthday, bro.
I really don't.
People find out and just say it, but yeah.
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DM.
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I don't know why either.
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My wife and kids celebrated my 40th as I don't.
Hope you have the patch.
I have something to attach it to.
Appreciate that, man.
Yeah, dude, we don't celebrate our birthdays, man, but I appreciate it anyway.
Hi birthday, Martin.
Thank you for all you do.
Thank you so much, bro.
Guys, thank you so much for all the B-Day wishes.
I really appreciate it, man.
I'm here doing a stream on my B-Day.
I'm actually going to bring my brother on here in a second.
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Defending Pedophilia? 00:15:09
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That's tough, bro.
That's tough because even the Arab world is getting cooked, my friend.
Even the Arab world is starting to get cooked.
All right, let's get back to this debate here.
And I'm going to bring my brother in here in a little bit.
As dates, as times, has things.
Remember, we're specifically trying to figure out why Brian Shapiro has decided that Trump SAs kids.
And so I give you all the rope in the world to hang yourself with.
You do it every time.
The question is.
The question just becomes this, right?
What's Brian's evidence?
Oh, yeah, when.
When have I ever defended pedophilia?
Ever.
You defend Donald Trump ad nauseum.
And you have not established Donald Trump is a pedophile.
That's the problem.
You know, this is the funniest part: the bait and switch.
I haven't.
I haven't established that the things I'm saying are true, but because you say you haven't established the things you said are true, that means that you must be the thing in question.
What kind of talking can stay?
Hang on.
What kind of ridiculous logic is that that you just said I defend pedophilia?
Can you substantiate a single time I've defended pedophilia?
Do it.
You don't even think there's anything.
I'll give you multiple reasons.
You've laughed during this conversation when we talk about the absurdity of the world.
I find that to be very plausible.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me just finish.
I find that very problematic.
When have I defended pedophilia?
Beyond a reasonable doubt, you can't even say right now, when have I defended PDE?
Finish the sentence.
Let me finish the sentence.
Because you're not going to answer the question.
Why don't you let me finish?
Go ahead and finish.
You can't even say with a straight face that there's a possibility that Donald Trump might have done some very bad things to kids.
That is reprehensible.
There's a possibility you have.
Logically, it's possible.
What do you argue?
There's no evidence for it.
Get this right.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Let me just get this straight.
I just want to understand.
The guy that's named in the Epstein files hundreds of times that has been found liable for sexual abuse, and you're putting me on the same scale as him of the possibility that might have done some bad things to children.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Do you think that because somebody's named a ton of times in files, even though the files themselves don't show him ever having done anything wrong?
That's good evidence to corroborate your idea here that if you just point to his name being in there, that somehow that means he was involved in essaying kids, even though you have no evidence of that.
Also, let me point this out.
And this is, hang on, hang on, hang on, bro.
This is really important.
You just said, I defend Pediophilia.
Can you give me an example of me ever doing that?
Ever.
Yes.
Win.
Yes.
Win.
Yes, I can.
Win in this conversation in this conversation.
Win.
So in this conversation.
And I will, I will, I thought I just gave you a couple of examples.
The example was that I laughed.
I laughed.
And so I'm defending PDFs.
That's just a small part of it.
No, that's just a small part of it.
So I've given you a history of Donald Trump's behavior, some in the courtroom, some not.
The things he said, his behaviors, the things he's openly admitted to doing, like looking at teenage girls naked in a locker room, right?
And you mean to tell me that you look me in the eye right now and you say there's no chance that he molested children, even though he's in the Epstein files hundreds of times, even though his best friend was Jeffrey Epstein.
I think the chances of it are extraordinarily low.
Now, can you answer my question as to when I've ever defended pediophilia?
Ever.
You just did just now.
No, that's not.
How?
How would that be defending pediophilia?
Me saying, I don't believe this guy is a PDF.
How's that defending pedophilia?
Well, it seems like it seems like, Brian, I don't believe you are either.
If somebody said Brian Shapiro and gave me no evidence that you molest kids, say what you want about it.
I was like, wait, wait, man.
Wait, wait a second.
I don't think that that's true.
And they said, well, you're just a fucking PDF protector.
Is that even logical or rational?
Can you explain how it's rational to say that if I don't believe a thing based on a lack of evidence, that means I'm defending the action itself?
Again, what you're saying is not rational because you're comparing.
I'll be right back, guys.
Give me one sec.
Apples to oranges.
What apples am I comparing to oranges?
We have a man who is not only in the Epstein files hundreds of times, doesn't want you to see the other 3 million files.
He's made that very clear.
He doesn't even want us talking about it.
This is a man who sexualized his own daughter, who bragged about looking at 14 or 15-year-old girls in a locker.
I'm sure if it was your daughter, you wouldn't like that very much.
And rightfully so.
Not evidence that he diddles kids.
I just told you the man bragged about evidence that he diddles kids.
None of it.
Are you looking for DNA evidence?
We all are looking at strong evidence.
That doesn't mean he didn't do it.
We're talking about strong corroborating evidence with eyewitnesses that have dates, times, things which are rational, reasonable.
Not we were in a fucking room where they were acting like we were chatting.
Let me ask you a question.
Hang on, hang on.
Hang on, hang on.
Let's go.
You also just said, right, that I defend PDF.
Now, why would you say something that horrible to a person?
We know for sure that I've never done anything like that.
My lack of belief.
Let's walk through the logic, Brian.
Andrew doesn't believe this thing.
Do you agree with me?
Hang on, Brian.
Do you agree that I really don't believe that Trump is a PDF?
That I actually don't believe that?
Do you believe that?
That I don't believe it.
No.
So here's why I say no.
Okay, right.
I'm going to give you the reason.
Let me answer.
Go ahead.
You fail to criticize Donald Trump for almost anything.
You fail to hold him responsible for anything that took place on January 6th.
You fail to hold him responsible.
Hold on.
Let me finish.
You have a history of defending Donald Trump ad nauseum.
And I'm not using name-calling here.
I don't want to do that.
So what?
But I believe you are extremely.
Wouldn't that reinforce my belief?
I believe.
Wouldn't that reinforce my belief?
That I don't think is a belief.
I believe you are incapable, like so many people on the right, you are incapable of criticizing Donald Trump for literally anything.
Wouldn't that reinforce my belief that he's not that thing?
Well, you are basically calling anybody that has accused Donald Trump of sexual abuse a liar, are you not?
No, because saying that these women are not credible who are making the ones who are alleging that he's essaying children, there's no credible evidence that that's the case.
So it's not, you don't think there's anybody credible that claimed that he raped children.
What about raping women that are not children?
Hang on.
Can you answer that, please?
The entirety of the proposition has no bearing on that.
It's about whether or not your belief is justified.
You asked me about defense.
No, it's about if your belief is justified that he essays.
I want to know, Andrew, this is about Donald Trump in the Epstein files.
I get that, but I want to know all the women that have accused Donald Trump a rape or sexual assault.
I don't believe that shit.
You don't.
So all the women that have accused him of rape, they're all lying.
Well, the ones who are supposedly credible, for sure, I think so, but that has no bearing on this.
Hold on.
Let me rephrase it.
There are over 25 women that have accused Donald Trump of assistance.
I don't believe any of them bitches.
I don't believe none of them bitches, Brian.
Wait, they're bitches?
Yeah, you heard what I said.
Andrew, you are not a serious person.
How is that not serious?
You are not a serious person.
What do you mean?
First of all, you're going to call all women bitches that have accused Donald Trump of rape?
You're an asshole.
I'm an asshole.
Why would you do that?
You unsolicited my wife in DMs and called her a bitch.
Andrew?
What are you doing?
What are you talking about?
You called Andrew.
Andrew.
Andrew, do you really want to go there?
You just called, I don't.
I'll be honest with you.
I don't.
I don't.
Yeah, I don't believe any more than I believe what happened with Blasio Ford and Calvin.
So they're all bitches.
Wait, hold on.
Let's go.
No, no, hold on.
I think they're a bunch of lying bitches.
So all the women that have accused.
Yeah.
So all the women that have accused Donald Trump of rape, they're all bitches.
They're a bunch of, no, no, no, no.
Got to get this right.
Lying bitches.
Because I think that if you lie about a man essaying you, you got to be a bitch.
You are just an awful person.
Oh, well, great argument.
Great argument.
But back to this, where's your proof that Trump essayed kids?
Fucking nowhere.
You call him a PDF file.
You got no evidence for it.
You're mad at me because I say women who lie about SA are bitches.
Yeah.
Well, you got me, Brian.
So all the women that have accused Donald Trump of rape, they're all lying bitches.
Is that that's your belief?
I don't know how else I can say this.
No, say it again.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Say it again.
Lying bitches.
Okay.
Because if you lie about a man essaying you, you're despicable.
And you're a liar and a bitch.
Well, I think you're a misogynist then when you make a statement like that.
No, I just think you make a false essay claim against a man.
You're a bitch.
I don't think that's misogyny.
I think most women would agree if I asked them, do you think if you made a false accusation of SA against a man that that woman's a bitch?
I think that they'd be like, yeah.
So they're all lying.
They're all not telling the truth.
Donald Trump has never sexually all the women that have done national interviews that have never made a dollar from making those claims.
His ex-wife, by the way, who claimed that he raped her, who passed away, she's a lying bitch.
Yeah, I think she was lying about that.
And Eugene Carroll, especially.
He was mentally ill.
She's mentally ill as shit.
She named her cat vagina, dude.
So because you name your cat vagina, that means you can't be the victim of sexual assault.
She wasn't the victim of anything except 80 million bucks.
That was all she was the victim of.
But that aside, back to this.
Is your evidence that Donald Trump essays children other than you just really want it to be true?
I just, I just, Andrew, I'm just, I'm just in, I'm a little speechless now.
I just, I just cannot believe.
I didn't think you would go down that road.
Why not?
I can't believe that.
All the women, you don't know whether they're telling the truth or not.
You're calling all the women that have come forward lying to us.
None of the complaints that I've heard against Trump when it comes to SA.
Have I ever seen them be credible?
Blasio 4, well, not Blasio 4, sorry.
Eugene Carroll, I never thought was a credible one ever.
Well, guess what?
A jury of Donald Trump's peers disagreed with you.
In a civil suit, he was never criminally liable for nothing.
Yeah, but he was found liable for the threshold's really low.
And by the way, by the way, actually, this makes my point for me.
If it's the case that the jury, if it's the case that the jury thinks like you do, where you can just be like, well, I just feel that way with no evidence, it's not to me he got convicted.
First of all, there's no evidence.
The jury saw more evidence than you, and there's no evidence to prove that that's how they made their decision.
So you're making a horrible judgment.
I wonder, you know, listen, I don't want to bring your family into this.
Oh, but you're going to.
But you're going to.
I want to know.
No, I'm asking a respectful question.
And I'm not asking.
Are you sure, Brian?
You sure you're not going to.
Yes, I am.
You sure you're not going to call my wife a slut again?
No.
Do you really want to go there, Andrew?
You keep bringing it up, not me.
Does your wife also think that all the women that have come forward are lying bitches?
Hang on, let me ask her.
Honey, come out here real quick.
Please.
And bring me a shot.
I just want to make sure that I get this right.
I'm just curious.
I'm going to ask her.
I'm going to ask her.
I'm wondering how any woman could think that way.
Hey, yeah.
Hang on.
I'll ask her.
Hang on.
Is that not a respectful question?
Sure, sure.
I'll ask her.
I'll have her bring me a shot and then she can tell you herself.
Okay, fair enough.
But yes, Brian, do you agree with me that a woman who makes a false essay claim, if they indeed made a false essay claim, is a bitch?
I wouldn't use that terminology.
I think that if a woman, and it's proven, if it's proven, I'll give you an example.
You ready for an example?
I'll give you one.
The Duke LaCrosse story.
I think that woman, who obviously was extremely mentally disturbed.
She was a bitch, too.
She ruined.
I'm sorry.
She was a bitch.
I mean, you got to be a fucking bitch to do that to people, right?
I think it's a horrible thing to do to accuse anybody, man or woman, of committing a heinous crime and lying about it.
To call a person who would do that a stupid bitch seems reasonable, right?
But that was proven.
The Duke La Crosse story was proven.
That woman admitted that she lied.
You don't know if all these women are lying.
Well, a lot of women do lie, man.
Let's be honest here.
A lot of them do.
You know, we saw what happened with Andrew Tay.
We know Virginia Goufre, one of the main witnesses in this case.
Even the FBI didn't want to use her as a witness.
You know, she was kind of making a career of this stuff.
Now, that's not to discount, obviously, the real victims.
You guys know my thing.
You know, I've always had an issue with women like Amber Heard that use the Me Too movement for their own personal enrichment or as a tool of revenge.
And then real victims get, you know, sidelined.
That's horrible, right?
So we do have a problem in America with women abusing the Me Too movement for their own personal gain.
That is a fact.
You know, Gene E. Carroll is crazy.
That is true.
She's fucking nuts.
There's a woman that said rape doesn't have to be physical.
And whenever you leave interpretation up to wild, you know, kooky individuals like that, right, that can say something as ridiculous as rape doesn't have to be physical.
Well, yes, it does.
It's an element of the law.
You know, this isn't make-believe what you think or what you feel.
You know, this is a very serious charge that has very serious parameters.
It has elements of a law that's black and white that needs to be met.
And you can't just sit there and arbitrarily say someone graped you because you feel like it and then say, Well, rape doesn't have to be physical.
Well, when we're talking from a legal sense where people can feel real charges about this or get real charges from this, yes, it does need to be physical, stupid.
So, um, so and that's the problem with the Me Too movement is it invalidates real victims because you got a bunch of fucking kooky ass people that use it for personal gain.
What nobody talks about with Genie Carroll, for example, is that this is how that happened.
Me Too Movement's Flaws 00:02:28
So, first, she had a um, she she talked about it um publicly, and there was a lot of like talk about it.
So, she released a copy or she released a um a snippet of her being allegedly graped by Donald Trump in her book.
It went crazy, it went super viral.
What did she do?
She ended up publishing the book with her being graped by Donald Trump, and she did a book tour after, you know.
So, there was a heavy financial incentive for her to uh make things up, unfortunately, right?
And this is bad because it sets up a precedent that basically, um, yeah, lie as much as you want, lie as much as you want.
So, uh, not good at all, man, not good at all.
And like, the fact that she went on CNN and she famously said, uh, grape doesn't need to be physical, right?
And Anderson Cooper was awkwardly just sitting there like, uh, craziness, dude, craziness.
And the reason why a lot of times is because we're scared to call women out whenever they make allegations because we don't want to come off as insensitive and mean.
But I do think that there needs to be a degree of justice, right, or due diligence to verify the claims because a man's life can absolutely be destroyed.
And here's the scariest part: not only will your life get destroyed, you can get found innocent and you'll still be destroyed.
The allegation alone destroys you, even if you get found innocent.
How many athletes have we seen, guys, that you know, lost everything, lost deals, lost opportunities, even after being found innocent?
Look at Johnny Depp.
Johnny Depp lost millions upon millions of dollars before he was able to finally drag Amber Heard's dumbass into a courtroom and prove that she was lying.
And even though he proved that she was lying, deals are still gone.
Money's still lost.
Advertisers still don't want to work with him.
I think Aqua de Geo stuck by him.
Everybody else dropped him.
So the damage still gets done, even if you're found innocent.
He proved her, he proved his case in a defamation case, in a defamation trial.
Right?
It was televised everywhere, but he spent an enormous amount of money, and he's probably still negative.
So these are some very real world consequences when it comes to these allegations.
Familiarizing With Cases 00:14:43
The whole idea is you're just trying to besmirch a person and call them this horrible thing with zero evidence because you want to move people's alignment away from them so they're not a pedo defender.
Okay, so first of all, I'm not trying to move.
Obviously, you've already made the case that it doesn't matter what woman accuses Donald Trump of rape, they're all lying to that.
You've already said that.
If a woman had compelling evidence that Trump actually did this, that's not what you said.
That's not what you said.
And I would believe that.
Is that what you said?
Yes, it is.
I believe that there's no good evidence from any of the people who have accused Trump.
Based on what I've read about these cases and what I've read about what you've read, you don't believe, so they're all lying.
Yeah, I'll tell you what.
If you actually do believe them, right?
Name three of them outside of E.G. Carroll and his ex-wife.
Just three.
Well, first of all, Can those are outside of your name right the ones that are media publicized?
You care so much.
Name fucking three of them.
Just name three.
Look at the most immediately damaged cases.
I gotta go get one.
You can't even name three of these women because you want to name names.
You want me to do it?
Trump has ate over 20 women.
Name three of them.
You've Googled.
You've Googled like five times in this conversation.
You want me to just do a Google?
Well, that makes I just told you.
I'm just saying.
You don't care.
Honestly, you can't care.
You don't even know their names.
You don't fucking care.
Give me a break.
So, because I, so because I haven't memorized, let me get this right.
Because I haven't memorized all by Andrew's logic, the crucible or whatever you call yourself.
Because I haven't named and I haven't memorized all the names of the 25 plus women that have accused Trump of rape.
Not even three.
That means I don't care.
Two.
How about two?
Can you name two?
I just gave you two.
Donald Trump's ex-wife.
Outside of the two that are the most media publicized, can you name two?
What a stupid.
I'll tell you what, Andrew.
Can he name one other one?
Can he even name one other one?
Just one.
I'll Google it for you.
Yeah, Google it.
Yeah, you have to.
You can't even name another one.
Will that make you feel better?
You can't name a single person.
Will that make you feel better, Andrew, if I Google?
You care so much, you don't know anything about them or their cases or nothing.
You know, so it's all for political expedients.
Of the women who are raped or claimed that they were raped, that means I don't care about rape.
It seems to me that, like, you, as a guy who is propagating, that you believe, I believe these women, Katie Johnson, I would assume as the guy who says, I believe their testimony, I believe these women, I believe these women, I'm giving you names.
Okay, give me a name.
I'm telling you that I do.
Give me some reserve all the time.
Okay, so let's start with Summer.
Hang on, let's start with Stacey Williams.
Okay, let's start with Stacy.
Let's start with Stacey.
Can you give me any details about Stacy's case?
She said she's reading it.
I'm here, guys.
I'm just doing a quick little thing here.
Don't worry.
I'm here, though.
Ninja.
You're reading.
Andrew, I'm sorry.
What's your argument now?
You've Googled that you claim that you think that all these women and their essay shit is completely credible, but you've never read the fucking complaints.
You don't know any of their names.
You made it up.
You just find it credible because you have to do it.
I made it up.
Yeah.
I just listened to you.
So hold on.
Hold on.
You didn't.
Read any of these complaints, Brian.
Let me get this right.
You're saying I don't care about all these women that have come forward.
No.
Because I can't.
No, dumb.
Because you don't know the details of any of their cases.
See, the woman claimed in 1993 that she was groped.
Yeah, you just read that.
Literally, I can see the reflection on your glasses, so I know you read it.
Actually, the reflection is the light in you.
I can literally see the reflection.
I don't know why.
I don't know why you keep laughing about sexual assault.
I'm not laughing.
It's funny.
You're right.
You're at this stupidity.
Andrew.
Andrew, you're right.
You're right.
They're all lying bitches, Andrew.
That's a great intelligent take.
How would you know?
Who would even get offended?
It's not like you know their names.
Yeah.
It's a very so.
Because I haven't memorized all the, let me be very clear.
You haven't memorized any.
Let me make it sound.
I'm familiar with any of the cases.
Any simple man like you.
Let me let me make this very simple.
Okay, Andrew.
I know you think rape is funny.
I know.
So do you think that moral grandstandings?
Anybody?
Andrew, hold on.
Don't spur down.
Calm down.
Any woman who claims that they're the victim or man of sexual abuse or child, I take extremely seriously.
Now, I might not know all their names.
I might not know all the details of the cases, but you're going to believe them anyway.
Hold on.
I'm not done yet.
I might not know everything or anything about them, even though I do know people in my life who have been the victim of sexual abuse.
I take it extremely seriously.
And I will say this: for you to claim that I don't care about women that have come forward that have claimed sexual abuse because I don't know all the details or I don't know their full name or any details is so is so fucking stupid and insulting.
No, it's completely rational and reasonable.
Your stupid fans will say, Andrew, you own Brian.
He can't name all the names.
It's the dumbest.
You can't name any arguments.
You can't name one.
First of all, I know several.
No, after you after you Googled it, I followed the name of the case.
I followed the Egyptian case.
I said, outside of these two highly publicized cases.
I followed the case of Ivana Trump.
I've talked about it on my show.
Outside of the two highly public cases.
Oh, so now it's outside of two.
I literally said that 40 times.
I only said it 40 times.
The fact that you would make that fucking hilarious to me.
You care so much.
I know you think it's case.
Andrew, you're not capable of criticizing Donald Trump for anything.
Because there's no DNA evidence.
You make the claim that, oh, no, he didn't rape anybody.
Stupid evidence.
Egypt Carroll, they're all lying bitches.
Yeah, dumb, stupid evidence.
Anybody who is right, exactly.
What'd you say?
I said, damn it, that Andrew requiring evidence, that bastard.
No, you just called them all lying bitches.
And sometimes when women come forward and they make claims of sexual abuse, they don't always have DNA evidence.
They don't always have to.
You know what a rational person? Doesn't mean they're lying.
A rational person.
A rational argument.
Brian Ryan, my turn, my turn.
A rational person would evaluate those cases on a case-by-case basis, familiarize themselves with the details of those cases, familiarize themselves with the players in those cases, and then they would come to an informed decision as to whether or not to believe them or not.
You didn't do any of that.
You didn't familiarize yourself with any of the details of any of these cases because you don't give a shit.
They're political pawns for you.
I do care.
They're political.
I do care.
You didn't know anything about it.
You knew nothing about it.
To you, it's political pawns, but I can tell you that I believe Donald Trump's ex-wife when she claimed in a deposition under oath that he lied on top of her, penetrated her without her consent.
And then mysteriously, a couple months later, the case went away because he paid her off.
I believe E. Gene Carroll.
Oh.
And I believe, and I like to believe victims when they claim that they are the victim of a serious crime, unless they give me reason to believe.
And how would you ascertain?
How would you ascertain?
Would you like to familiarize yourself with the case and the players in the case?
Is that how you would make those determinations of whether or not they're telling the truth or not?
So I have familiarized myself.
With none of the cases.
With the way of new Epstein files as required by the way Donald Trump's life.
Excuse me.
I'm pretty familiar with his ex-wife and E. Gene Carroll.
I said outside of those two cases, the most highly public.
So Andrew's argument to all the Crucible fans out there.
Andrew's argument is basically because you can't recite names and specifics of every single case, then they can't, number one, they can't be credible.
Number two, you can't have the opinion that you believe Donald Trump is a sexual abuser.
That is the dumbest argument I've ever heard.
Yeah, okay, well, sure.
I'm sure it is.
It wasn't mine, though.
It wasn't my argument.
It's insane.
It's the dumbest argument.
Let me just try this.
Let me try this.
And again, I want to see if you're honest.
Hang on.
You got a whole chance to move the whole goalpost back and throw the whole thing back in my face.
And I'm even going to give you the opportunity.
I think I've already done that, Andrew.
I'm even going to give you the opportunity to do it.
Did you?
You're all lying bitches.
Did you just tell me the truth on this?
Did you actually, other than EGE Carroll and Trump's ex-wife, did you actually familiarize yourself with it?
Hang on, with any of the cases in which there was accusations that Trump essayed a woman.
Okay.
Yes.
Hang on, hang on.
Yes.
Can you tell me?
Okay, can you tell me the one that you're the most familiar with?
Well, obviously the two that I'm most familiar with because it's been in the news is obviously Egypt Carroll and what took place outside of that.
Hold on to that.
I'm answering your question.
I'm answering your question.
I haven't talked about these cases in a very, very long time.
The last time I talked about these cases outside of Egypt Carroll and his ex-wife, it's been years.
Okay.
So I don't remember all the details.
But to answer your question, it hasn't been recently, but I haven't recently read up on these details.
Now, I can go back and I could look at it and I can recite to you what happened.
But the point that I was trying to make to you, Andrew, is that based, and this goes back to the Epstein files and the entire argument that I am making to you, which is when you look at his history, when you look at his behavior, I tend to believe victims, especially in this circumstance.
Now, I know you don't think that's plausible.
You don't think that's a fair argument.
And again, I've been saying this.
Okay.
Well, I've been saying that, you know.
You know what's funny, Brian?
It's like, I've been so willing to be so good faith back and forth with you, especially when we started with Alex, right?
It's not that you have a bad position there, right?
I at least understand that position.
That position makes sense to me.
The position of like, look, you know, according to what I'm seeing right now, I can ascertain that I think that this was unjustified, blah, blah, blah.
I can at least, I don't agree with that position, but I can at least understand it.
Now we've moved into territory that I actually don't understand.
This is where we move.
Hang on, hang on.
This is where, hang on, hang on, bro.
Let's finish.
This is where we move into territory actually really don't get.
The first, we can have a debate on.
It was an unjustified, is it unjustified?
Who do you think is making a better case?
Sure.
But in this case, you're actually calling people PDFs.
You don't have any evidence for that.
You're saying that it's horrible that I say that I think that these women who make these unjustified claims are bitches.
No, that's not right.
That's not what you said.
Yeah, I said all of the women.
I believe that all of the women who make these guys, I'm probably going to have to go live with my brother tomorrow.
He needs to get headphones.
We pretty much figured it out, but he doesn't have headphones.
Nigga has Bluetooth headphones everywhere.
Fucking young people.
You know what I mean?
They don't understand wired headphones.
They even tell me they're not because you don't know anything about the cases.
And that's where we move into the bizarre fucking shit.
Let's go with that.
You're calling all these women and 25 plus, right?
That have accused Trump of sexual assault as all lying bitches.
So I'm going to bring my brother on tomorrow.
But in the meantime, I'm going to show you guys this channel so you guys can subscribe and get ready.
Can you name them?
Do you know the cases?
Brian, that would be my entire point.
My entire point would be.
Do you?
You have no.
You have no leg.
Why won't you answer my question?
I am.
You have no leg from which to criticize any position.
So you don't know their names.
You don't know anything about their case.
That's my, that makes my case for me.
Good, they're all lying bitches and you don't know anything about this, Brian.
If I say, I'm asking you, Brian, if I say I believe every one of these women lied and you say, how could you ever believe that?
That's ridiculous.
And then I ask you, well, Brian, are you familiar with any of these women in any of these cases?
So if you're not, what hill would you have from which to criticize my position, dude?
What?
You just made a blatant statement that you believe that all these women are lying bitches.
Anybody that's ever accused Trump of sexual abuse is a lying bitch.
My question.
He never said that.
He named specific people like Genie Carroll, for example, who is a lying bitch, by the way.
Now to you is, do you know who all these women are?
Every single one of them, Brian, but I'm just not going to tell you.
Oh, yeah, I think you're a liar.
Oh, Brian, I said from the beginning.
My argument.
Oh, that hurts.
How could you call me a liar?
My argument from the beginning to your crucible fans.
To start this conversation, is I made the statement that it's the volume.
It's the volume, consistency, and the seriousness of these allegations that makes me believe the victims.
Now, you obviously think they're all lying bitches, which I think is reprehensible.
And I guess we'll have to leave it at that.
I mean, it's really difficult to have a good faith conversation with someone that would make a blatant statement like that, that all women are lying bitches that have ever accused Donald Trump of any improprieties, sexual abuse.
Even if it's for the purpose.
All right, guys, here's my brother's channel right here.
Okay.
Make sure to give it a sub.
We are going to go be live on this channel tomorrow.
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Let's get back to it.
So an internal critique to demonstrate that no matter what.
Call me names, I don't care what your Crucible fans say about me.
I don't care.
But you made the case that I don't care about any of these women that have come forward that have accused Trump of rape because right now I can't name their names and I don't know all the specifics in the case.
Are you willing to retract that statement now?
Because it's quite offensive when you make it, because it's not true.
People Believe Tooth Fairy? 00:14:51
I care about any woman or man.
I'll give you the child or hang on.
Hang on.
I'll give you an olive branch.
Okay.
The purpose of what I just did, the internal critique, to demonstrate there's no grounds from which to ever make a criticism of me, regardless of what I say about any of this, because the opposition has no idea what they're even discussing because they didn't read it.
They don't know it.
They don't understand it.
To separate the two issues, do I think that Brian obviously cares if women get SA'd?
Of course I think he does.
Of course I think you do, Brian.
Do I also think, though, that you'll utilize this for the purpose of political expediency, even though you have no familiarization with the source content?
Hang on, hang on, Brian.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
I'm trying to delineate to give you the olive branch.
Do I think that you will utilize that for the purposes of political expediency?
Yes.
And I just demonstrated it, which is why we have so little evidence of the Trump SA's kids.
We have so little evidence of, oh, the fucking these women, they're all totally credible.
And you can't speak about the fucking.
I'm going to prove to you right now that I am very consistent when it comes to my opinions with high-profile people, even when it's political.
And even when you might think that it's not politically convenient.
I've been my brother's channel, guys, on YouTube, Rumble, and YouTube Rumble and Kick chat.
It's been at the top.
I have been saying now for over 20 years, even before I got into radio, and I maintain this position now, that Bill Clinton did some horrible sexual things to women.
I do believe he did some terrible things.
And I do believe that is the one thing that Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.
Hold on.
I do believe that Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have done sexual things to women against their will at one point in their life.
I do believe that.
And that's why I would never vote for Bill Clinton.
It's part of the reason why I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.
This is not political for me.
Do I dislike Donald Trump?
Not because Donald Trump is a Republican, because I think he's a really bad guy.
He's done some horrible things.
Do I think Bill Clinton is a bad guy?
Yeah.
I'm not disputing that I think that you believe.
See, that's the problem with a lot of these guys.
They don't even want to debate facts a lot of times.
They just want to debate emotions.
They want to debate, oh, you're a PDF defender.
You're XYZ, blah, blah.
And just so you guys know, this guy, Shapiro, absolutely does have Trump derangement syndrome.
He absolutely does.
This guy rails on Donald Trump every fucking day on his Las Vegas show.
Every fucking day.
Just like Kyle Kalinsky and Hassan, these guys literally do have Trump derangement syndrome.
It's fucking crazy, dude.
It's crazy.
Believe that Trump's done horrible things.
I agree that you believe that, Brian.
What I don't understand is how you could be so willing to call somebody a PDF with such an underwhelming amount of evidence, which is almost none.
Hang on, which almost it really is almost none.
And by the way, Brian, I want to point this out.
And then morally grandstand that the evidence you are trying to source, which is a pattern of behavior, you don't know anything about.
That is why I'm like, dude, this makes zero sense to me.
And it makes zero sense to the observer, because how could it be the case that you would morally grandstand on the one hand, you care so much, you don't know any of the details of it.
On the other hand, claim he's a thing, have no evidence for it, and then tell me that I'm being somehow evil because I require a standard of evidence for the claims that you make.
No, no.
So first of all, I don't think I use the term evil, but I think some of the things you've said are reprehensible.
As I've said before, and I'll say it again.
What things have I said that are reprehensible?
Well, I mean, you just kind of retracted it, but I thought when you say that all the women are lying bitches, all of them, any woman that's ever made a claim.
You have no standard from which to criticize that claim.
None.
Well, you have no standard by which to say that they're all lying bitches.
You don't know whether the tone is.
Yeah, but that's Brian.
You're making hyperbole.
Again, my point for me.
I think I'm a reasonable, rational human being, and I require evidence.
And I want stance reasons, which are evidence-based.
Also, guys, do me a favor, smash that like button for me.
Smash the like button for me.
Which are evidence-backed, or I make claims.
The first engagement that we had, right?
You were trying to use evidential reactions.
Sitting at 1400 likes, guys, let's get to 3,000.
Get that engagement up.
Pre-reasoning in order to say this is unjustified.
That is a position I can wrap my head around.
But the second we move over to this guy who you're politically opposed to, those very same evidentiary standards you would cite in the first debate, you'd abandon in the second.
And that's why it's like, I don't think that's consistent.
I don't think that's intellectually honest.
And I think you're bullshitting me a little bit here.
Okay, let's talk about that.
Let's talk about intellectual honesty.
Because I want to know if you're consistent.
Because you said you require evidence.
Is there any evidence that was presented to claim that Donald Trump won the 2020 election?
Dude, this has nothing to do with this.
Yo, relational to this.
Why won't you have dating?
Yo, these niggas are the worst, bro.
Because it's a red herring.
Yo, it's a red herring.
Because you're a hypocrite.
That's why.
So when it comes to women, let me explain why.
Let me explain why.
Let me explain why.
If you just want to when a woman comes forward, any woman by your standards that has ever claimed that Donald Trump sexually abused him, you have to have immediate evidence.
Otherwise, you don't believe them, right?
You know, but Donald Trump is aware of that.
I know it's terrible.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Did Donald Trump have any credible evidence that the election was stolen and rigged and that Joe Biden cheated in the Democrats?
Even if I can't, but even if I concede this point, that does nothing for you.
Do you understand the question?
Like it doesn't do anything.
I'm not sure whether you think it does something for me or not.
Answer the question.
It's a red herring.
We're not digging into it.
I'm just trying to answer it because you're trying to divert away from the topic.
So when it comes to women that accuse Trump of rape, yes, I require evidence.
My claim is this.
My claim is this.
When it comes to women who accuse Donald Trump of rape, I want evidence.
That's the claim.
Do you have something?
Do you have something you want to say about their fucking claim or not, Brian?
So would you agree that there are women in society, some that have been raped 20 years, 30 years, 40 years ago, and they'll make the claim 40 years later that, yes, they were the victim of sexual abuse.
I do think.
And hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me just finish.
Go ahead.
That's fair.
Because I think this is an important distinction.
Would you agree that some women in society, 20 years, 30 years, 40 years later, they say that at one point, maybe when they were a child, maybe when they were in high school, that they were the victim of sexual abuse and they don't have any direct evidence to prove it.
Are they all lying then by your standards?
Of course not.
Okay, so it is possible that you might not have evidence, but it still could have happened.
Is that fair, Andrew?
Of course.
Okay, okay.
But is it also fair?
Is it also fair if I say she said that this happened, but she has no evidence.
And until I see some evidence, I'm not going to believe it.
Is that also fair?
I don't think it's fair to call them a lying bitch.
Oh, okay.
That's not the question I asked you.
The question that I asked you was: if I say she made this claim, I agree she made the claim, but I've seen no evidence for it.
And until I see evidence for it, I don't believe it.
Is that fair?
Not always.
And I'll tell you why.
Okay, why?
Maybe in some cases, but not always.
Because as we've just established in the first question that I asked you, there are times where women won't have direct evidence.
They might not even remember the day.
They might not remember the week.
They might not even remember because they wanted in their mind to erase it from their memory because it's a traumatic experience.
I'm not disputing any of this.
I'm not disputing any of these.
So, Andrew, I'm only asking you.
So, Andrew, here's why we're Andrew.
Here's the fundamental disagreement that we disagree on here.
I tend to, even if they don't have direct evidence, I tend to believe someone when they claim that they're a victim.
It could be rape, it could be robbery.
I tend to, for the most part, agree with someone that claims that they were atheists.
Okay, and I don't characterize all of them as lying bitches.
Let me ask you this: Do you believe in the Christian God?
I'm not a very religious person.
So, no, right?
Definitely not.
I believe in a higher person.
He's also higher power, but I am not a religious person.
Okay, so I don't let religion.
Do you believe Revelation where they saw the Christian God and the Christian God spoke to them, right?
Are you going to require evidence before you believe in the Christian God?
I would say that they're absolute lunatics and they believe in the tooth fairy.
So you would believe in the tooth fairy.
I mean, are we surprised he's Jewish, right?
Like, are we honestly surprised that that was his take?
So, so you can believe in the tooth fair fair fair face, if you like.
So, you can't discount that the Christian God is real by your own admission, but at the same time, even though you can't discount it's real, billions of people having this similar experience and telling you about the experience, you're going to hang on.
You're going to require evidence before you're trying to stop talking about rape before you confirm that the ex that that God is true, right?
Is that correct?
Hang on, hang on.
Before you bullshit me, just answer this.
I'm not trying to bullshit it.
I'm not trying to bullshit anybody.
You said that talking about crazy rape.
You said they're all crazy, but you want evidence, right?
You want evidence the Christian God is real, regardless of how many people claim that they have met him, right?
You want evidence, right?
I just want to, I just want to understand your question.
You're trying to compare God to rape.
Just answer the fucking question, dude.
I'm not comparing anything.
I'm doing it a critique on the logic.
You agree with me?
Billions of people believe that they've had divine revelation.
You agree with that?
No.
You don't think that they believe that?
You can believe in the tooth fairy if you'd like.
Yeah, I know.
I'm asking you.
Listen to what I'm asking.
He didn't ask if it happened, dumbass.
He said, is it or not true that people have had divine revelation?
That's what he's asking.
I'm not asking you if it's true or you believe it's true.
I'm asking you if they're not.
Yo, these atheists are the worst.
I'm asking you if they believe it.
Do billions.
Why, bro, just answer the question.
Do billions of people believe that they've had divine revelation?
Believe it.
So I find somebody more credible.
A woman comes forward and claims.
She's right.
Do billions of people believe that.
No, I don't think anybody can talk to God.
No, I don't believe them.
No, I'm not asking if it's true.
I'm asking if they believe it.
I mean, there's people that believe in the tooth fairy.
I know.
So there's crazy people.
At least 100 million people believe that they've had divine revelation.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, there's people that believe the other people.
Do at least 10 people.
You don't know if 10 people believe they've had divine revelation?
I don't really have extremely religious people.
Okay, okay.
Hang on.
There's one person you're talking to.
I've had divine revelation.
Do you believe that I believe that?
I mean, I don't know you personally.
I don't know if that's that.
That I believe it.
I'm not saying that.
Do you talk to God?
I'm not saying it's true.
I'm asking if you think I believe that it's true.
There are people that believe a lot of different things.
I'm not asking that.
I'm asking if you believe if you believe.
Okay, great.
I guess so.
Do you want evidence?
Do you want evidence?
Evidence that, what, God exists?
No, that into a religious God exists.
Evidence that you want to get into a if it's the case, would you just believe that I'm in revelation?
I think you want evidence.
I think, so what would you say if you answered that?
Brian, do you want to?
Okay, if I say they're all lying bitches.
If I said that, I think they're all lying bitches.
What would you think about that, Andrew?
I find that offensive.
I think that if it's the case, I think they're all lying bits.
And you have decided that because it's logically possible that a woman could have been SA'd many, many years ago, and then bring the allegations forward later.
I'm willing to concede.
Hang on, I'm willing to concede.
I'm willing to concede the point.
But if it's the case that you're saying that you should believe it anyway, even absent evidence, and you did say it, I gave you a hang on.
And then, and then you did say you should believe them anyway, absent evidence.
You wouldn't take that standard with religiosity and don't, which makes you the fucking hypocrite, sir.
No, I'm not a hypocrite.
I know, I know what you're trying to do.
You're hypocrisy, son.
No, it's not hypocrisy at all.
There is no, there is a fine-line difference between somebody who thinks that they talk to a being person that doesn't know evidence that they exist.
Then, for someone who makes a claim that there's no evidence that they exist, but there's no evidence that this person was essayed.
If you believe that God talks to you, Andrew, anybody that if I said that you're all the same, probably find that offensive, right?
Do you realize that that's the same?
You realize we're talking about the same burden of evidence.
I'm going to reach out to you in a little bit, guys.
Don't worry.
A person who is a person, yes, we are.
Yeah, we are.
If a woman comes to you and says, I was essayed 40 years ago, but I have no evidence to demonstrate that that's the case.
And a person comes to you and says, I've talked to God.
I talked to him 40 years ago, but I have no evidence that that's the case.
Why should I believe one but not believe the other?
Yeah, let's dissect that a little bit.
So, what Andrew is doing is he's trying to compare somebody who says they talk to God to a woman who claims that she was the question.
So, for all of the Crucible fans out there that are listening, can he answer my question now?
Paul Grandstanding and answer the question.
Can he answer the question?
Why should I require evidence for one?
Well, here's the thing.
Even though it's based on the same thing, which is eyewitness, hey, buddy, because one of them is a fucking crime.
That's why.
What does that have to do with anything?
What the fuck does it have to do with anything?
Why Should We Believe? 00:04:46
One of them is faith and belief, and the other one is a fucking crime.
Can you not distinguish the two?
Are you stupid, super can't distinguish the two?
So, as long as SA was a crime, so as long as SA wasn't a crime, having faith isn't a crime, dummy.
Yeah, but why does that have any merit on anything?
Because you're trying to compare rape.
No, I'm just trying to compare why it would be that I need to take them on blind faith, but you won't take me on blind faith.
Andrew, let me try to be calm and explain.
Okay, I'm the mouthpiece of the old mindset.
Stop, just shut up for a minute.
Andrew, just give me 30 seconds and shut up.
Okay.
When you say that you have a faith, right?
When you believe in God or you're talking to God, it's a faith that you have.
It's a belief system you have.
It's faith.
It's what we call faith.
Also, an experience.
It's also not, it's also not a crime.
Now, what I say is there's nothing.
What I say is there's nothing wrong with having faith.
You can believe in what you want.
Claiming that you have a discussion with God or having faith is very different than making a claim that you are the victim of a crime.
How the fuck do you not understand that?
I'll explain it really.
You're making yourself looking ridiculous.
I'll use real small words for me, not for you.
I know that you're super smart and I'm dumb, but I'm going to use real small words for me in the audience.
You finally said something we both have.
I know I'm an idiot, but it's like this.
You see, if a person believes that they have had revelation, that's an experience.
And if a person believes that they've been essayed, that's an experience.
What you're doing is you're asking me to take on faith both when you'll only take on faith one.
Even though both.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, rape is an experience.
Yes.
That's an experience a woman has.
Comparing an experience to a crime, to comparing an experience to an experience.
The only way that you can determine that you were essayed.
This is a serious, this is a serious logical deduction.
No one's going to take offense.
No one's going to take offense.
You're going to go after the family now?
I'm trying to be respectful.
You're moving into it.
Have I not been respectful?
Are we moving into the family attacks now?
Go ahead, Brian.
No, it's about you.
It's a question about you.
Have I attacked your family, Andrew?
Have I done that?
Many times.
Tonight, have I done that?
Tonight, yeah.
Not yet.
That's true.
Okay.
So stop.
So, and I don't mean disrespect by asking this, but this is a really weird analogy.
Have you been drinking tonight?
Literally five seconds ago.
I have a mixed drink five seconds ago.
Okay, fine.
So, okay, fine.
So, listen.
How would that help you?
Do you believe in God?
Yeah, that would actually be not being able to understand logic without drinking coffee or whiskey has no bearing on your own.
There's no logic, in my personal opinion, comparing faith and alleging to have a discussion with God, which, by the way, if that's how you feel, then you have the right to believe it.
But it's not a crime.
That's not the argument.
It's not against the law.
That's not the argument.
If you claim that you were the victim of sexual assault, you're saying that you were the victim of a fucking crime.
Do you agree with me?
Do you agree with me that a woman would have no way to report that she was SA'd if it was the case that she never experienced being SA'd?
She wouldn't go report.
Of course, she had to experience it, right?
There are women.
Yeah, of course.
There are women.
So, the thing is, is that if a person says they have divine revelation, they're also experiencing a phenomenon.
From their perspective, somebody in your chat, I apologize.
Rachel brought you a drink, and I shouldn't have.
That was like 20 minutes ago.
But go ahead.
It wasn't five minutes ago.
It was like 25 minutes ago.
But go ahead.
Go ahead, Andrew.
Do you think if you're thinking I got drunk off a shot, Brian?
Anyway, it seems to me.
The thing is, Brian, in the last 25 minutes, experience.
We're talking about experience.
You agree with me?
A religious person is having an experience also.
Why is it, Brian, please answer my question that you require evidence for one experience that has no evidence, but don't require evidence for another experience that has no evidence.
Okay, so first of all, if somebody is claiming that they spoke to God, there is no evidence ever that they can prove that there wouldn't be any evidence that a woman who was SA'd and couldn't provide evidence would have either, Brian.
Hold on, hold on.
There are many women that in some scenarios can provide circumstantial evidence.
They can provide witnesses like Eugene Carroll.
Can't Prove Experiences Matter 00:06:20
I agree.
There were witnesses.
Hold on, hold on.
Because you said you don't believe Eugene Carroll.
In fact, you characterize it.
That has nothing to do with what I'm asking you.
I'm asking you specifically as a woman.
A woman can't prove, has no evidence for.
Guy says he has revelation, or woman says has revelation, can't prove, has no evidence for.
Why am I supposed to believe the one?
Sure.
But I'm not supposed to believe the other.
Why?
Sure.
Just finish your shot and I will explain.
Okay.
So, first of all, it's important to note that one is a crime and one is not.
We've established that.
Second of all, there is literally.
Bro, Brian is so insufferable.
Look, and here's the thing, guys.
I've spoken to Brian before, and this is one of the main reasons why I don't like because he wanted to debate me and shit like that.
I'm not really interested in it because he does shit like this, dude.
It's like, oh my God, bro.
Like, this is just insufferable.
You know, it's like, fuck, this sucks.
This guy just yapping.
All right.
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Polygraphs are historically unreliable.
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Not anymore, technically.
It's February 2nd now.
No direct evidence, total stranger.
And I talked to God.
I wouldn't say, hey, show me proof.
I wouldn't attack them for it.
They have the right to believe in what they want to believe in, right?
And it's not a crime.
If a woman comes up to me and says that I know and says, or even that I don't know, and say, yeah, this horrible stuff happened to me when I was a child, blah, My initial reaction would never be, you're a lying bitch.
Or show me the evidence.
No, hang on, hang on, hang on.
But here's the thing: that this comes out with a fundamental question.
I don't know, give her a hug, give her a hug and a peg, a pat on the rear, and say, Hey, no, sorry.
Well, I know you don't think it's a big deal, but Andrew, the first thing that I would do is I would listen to her and I would believe her.
Why wouldn't you do that with a religious person?
Uh, what did I just say?
I just said that I'm not a religious person.
Yeah, so what?
But I wouldn't be disrespectful.
That has no bearing on the conversation.
Why wouldn't you just believe that?
Why wouldn't you just believe that?
Because here's the difference.
Why?
Because here's the difference: when people talk about a conversation they had with God, usually they're happy about it.
Usually, it's a very spiritual and a pleasant experience.
I think most people are.
Oh, no, there's tons of people have divine revelation who are miserable about it.
Most people that say they had a conversation with God that have come to me have said it's a very pleasant, it's a you know, a pleasant experience, and it brought me to this or that in my life.
Okay, all right, man.
When People Talk to God 00:02:04
I'm gonna, I'm gonna shift.
So, apparently, they identified the people that shot Alex Predi.
All right, guys, so I'm still working on my uh huge Epstein segment for tomorrow.
I'm gonna give you a full breakdown of absolutely all the juicy stuff that came out in the Epstein files, and it's gonna be another Trump derangement syndrome guy.
Like I said, I think it's gonna break a record for the length of a secular talk segment.
But I do have some huge breaking news for you right now.
So, ProPublica has just reported the names of the two ICE criminals that murdered Alex Predi.
And the names are Jesus Ochoa and Raymond Gutierrez.
Ochoa is a Border Patrol agent, 43 years old.
Raymondo Gutierrez is a customs and border protection officer.
And Ochoa joined CBP in 2018.
Gutierrez joined in 2014.
So, the stormtroopers of American fascism are Hispanic.
Yeah, a lot of Border Patrol is because Spanish is required.
Like, what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
How about that?
How about that?
It's so crazy.
I mean, it's look at his thing.
It's like, uh, so Alex Pretty got killed by a Spanish guy desperately trying to be white in the world's most obvious clauset case.
See, dude, like these progressives, bro, to them, like they're like reverse racist towards white people, man.
And it's like, yo, Kyle, you're fucking white, dude.
Like, what?
What the hell's going on here?
Like, I just saw this story the other day about a Cuban American who led some like Latinos for Trump group.
He was deported.
He was deported.
Like, bro, you think you're on the team, right?
You're not on the fucking team, dog.
You're not on the team.
Try walking around outside in civilian clothes without having your ICE or CBP badge on you.
Massive Redactions Dump 00:07:09
Bro, it's a wrap.
They would deport your ass too.
They throw you in CCOT, the concentration camp, too.
So it's just so crazy to me that that happens.
The fact that we have like it's like it's like rainbow fascism.
It's like a diverse fascism, right?
Where the stormtroopers of the state DEI fascism.
Progressivism has been so successful that even our Nazis are diverse.
Straight up.
I'm not sure to observe.
Straight up, bro.
It's so crazy to me, too.
And let's be serious.
There's a special place in hell for the minority ICE criminals and CBP criminals.
There's a special place in hell.
Like I said, you think you're special.
You're not special.
Trump fucking hates you too.
Elon Musk with his Nazi posting on Twitter hates you too.
They don't, they're not going to say, oh, you're one of the good ones.
You're not.
They'll shove your ass in that camp quickly too.
So, the fact that, I mean, it's just, I don't have enough negative shit to say about.
Of course, the guy's obsessed.
Okay, so we're also going to go ahead.
We're going to cover some of this Epstein stuff as well.
As you guys know, they were talking about it, the files.
But yeah, these are the two guys.
Now they're going to get harassed more than likely because this dude dox them.
But, I mean, are we surprised at this point?
So we're going to check out this video from Upper Echelon.
The worst Epstein files are corrupt elites.
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Okay, by the time this video gets out there, there's probably going to be even more.
But with a brand new multi-million page Epstein data dump, I wanted to dive in and look at the most immediately damaging stuff that we have and also talk about just how badly the government screwed up because it is bad.
And also, you guys need to remember that keep in mind that Kash Patel and a bunch of people from the Trump administration said that there were no Epstein files.
Dude, this is going to be a blemish, not even a blemish.
It's going to be a big bold asterisk and demerit in Trump's record forever.
Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino, all these guys are never going to be able to live this shit down, dude.
Historically bad levels of incompetence.
Let's start with this because we absolutely need the context.
This is Todd Blanche, former personal lawyer for Donald Trump.
And he's the number two over at the U.S. Department of Justice under Pam Bondi.
He's the deputy attorney general.
Who is now Deputy Attorney General of the United States?
Number two law enforcement officer in the world, by the way.
On January 30th, 2026, Blanche stage for a massive press conference unveiling that the DOJ and the FBI would be releasing about 3.5 million pages of new Epstein files as required by congressional law.
The important part is at about four minutes and 10 seconds in where he discusses the redaction guidelines and bloviates at length about how strict the criteria was, how hard their staff worked on these redactions and how nothing was being withheld on the basis of national security.
Translation, a bunch of interns did this for us because we don't want to do it, which is why there's so many fucking blunders here.
Security.
If you actually listened to him and took his words at face value, which you absolutely should not do, this is the most transparent administration ever.
The quality of their work is unimpeachable, and the redactions that they made were only to protect victim information, nothing else.
Sadly, that is a lie.
Over the course of today's video, I'll go through a series of examples in an effort to give as comprehensive a look as I can so far for this file dump.
But at the end of it all, I want everyone to consider a question.
Is the current governing administration in the United States telling the truth?
Here we go.
Item number one, which is actually two documents in this case, EFTA 01660679 and EFTA 01660651.
These documents show a collection of insane allegations against Donald Trump.
These come from the NTOC National Threat Operations Center at the FBI, which is where they process and vet public tips.
And some of them are very obviously marked as not credible.
Others are flagged as no contact made after attempting to follow up with the caller.
But here and there, you start finding that some of these reports resulted in a quote lead being sent to conduct interviews.
Obviously, I can't comment on the authenticity of these allegations overall, but there's something else I found interesting, something far more important in my mind that speaks to the credibility of the DOJ, the Department of Justice itself, and their decision-making when it came to these redactions.
Look at these two documents.
Separate files, sure, but not always different content.
Quote, complainant was spoken to and deemed not credible.
Additional research showed a three separate blank, and then it's all redacted.
However, this file isn't.
The rest of the sentence says, quote, incidents involving police which requested in mandatory psychiatric evaluations, end quote.
That right there, although small in a vacuum, is the very first example in a massive, massive pattern.
A pattern.
Well, look, I could tell you guys that the government is fucking retarded.
Okay.
There's lots of government employees that are literally useless and don't do anything.
They don't do anything.
Where the DOJ is redacting things that the problem is that with the government, the top people are a minority, unfortunately.
Make no sense.
Things that they have no right, no legal right to withhold, and things that may in fact matter a great deal, we just don't really have the ability to know because we don't have the full picture.
Example: they literally redacted the word none in this file.
And you can straight up read some of the other redactions because they're not centered properly.
It's a joke.
Even still, keeping in mind that the goal here is to analyze everything as objectively as possible.
We need to do a bit of a fact check because despite massively viral social media claims all over the place, these two files were not actually pulled down or deleted immediately after publication.
There were some 404 errors displayed on the DOJ website briefly, but they were ultimately resolved within minutes, I think, actually.
And the files are now clearly visible again.
I'm not sure why that happened.
The sheer amount of traffic may very well have played a part as people flooded into the directory specifically searching for those particular files.
And it's entirely possible that the DOJ panicked, deleted them, and then reinstated them, like they appear to have done previously with a different batch of files.
But this time, I honestly see no indication of that happening.
This time, it feels like a genuine glitch.
Do you want to know what isn't a glitch?
This right here, an FD302 victim interview, which is mostly redacted, clearly protecting certain perpetrator names alongside the potential victims.
But even from what we okay, so we know that this is the New York office interview in 2021.
And just so you guys, or you guys are wondering, federal document 302.
302 is the report of investigation that the FBI uses when they document their interviews or any type of investigative steps.
Weinstein Introduced to Trump 00:02:47
You see, unredacted, quote, Maxwell presented blank to Trump, and they had a conversation for approximately 20 minutes.
Blank was invited to Mar-a-Lago, where she was given a tour by Trump with Epstein and Maxwell present.
Nothing happened between Blank and Trump.
By the things that Maxwell said, it was made clear that Blank was available.
Maxwell said things like, Oh, I think he likes you.
Aren't you lucky?
This is great.
End quote.
Put whatever kind of spin on that you want to.
But what I see personally is a victim being presented to someone with the obvious implication that they can have her if they want her.
These are very serious allegations, and they're not the only ones.
The sole focus of the video, by the way, isn't just Donald Trump, so I'm not going to read all of them.
But the gist of it is that there are a lot of people Weinstein, Prince Andrew, Glenn Dubin, Jess Staley, Leon Black, Les Wexner, Alan Dershwitz, Bill Clinton introduced her to Trump, subsequently forced her head down to his exposed penis, which is subsequent, which is subsequently bite.
What Trump punched her in the head and kicked her out.
Remember, Epstein introduced her to Trump saying, This is a good one, huh?
And Trump responded, yes.
Interesting.
Weinstein say that she gave Weinstein a massage during which he fondled her fat and offered to pay her extra if she could.
Oh, what the fuck?
Say, Weinstein came to her apartment, offer a job, and they tried to follow her to the shower.
Epsey told her to give Weissen a massage during which Weinstein tells her to take off her shirt.
Refuses.
He threatens to get women.
Prince Andrew.
Donald Trump.
So I'm not going to read all.
This is 2025.
All of them.
But the gist of it is that there are incredibly damn stayed Epstein through her.
Another victim who had traveled with Epstein and Clint Africa.
Not a victim in Epstein.
Clay's claims she was invited to an orgy with Clinton but did not attend.
NTOC, not a victim in Epstein case.
Howard Luttnick.
Oh, this guy, actually, if I'm not mistaken, lived right down the street from Epstein.
Simon reported that Lutnick made his money through Ponzi schemes and money laundering.
Lutnick and Epstein were neighbors, and Epstein sold Lutnick a home for $10, which was then sold for millions.
Oh, man.
Imagine Jean-Luc Brunel.
You guys know who this guy is.
I told you guys about this dude for a minute.
Brunel Epstein were closer to traveled often together.
Stated she saw Brunel Epstein's Island.
This guy, Brunel, right here, guys, is a key figure.
Brunel, for those of you that don't know, was the girl guy.
He worked under Les Wexner, right?
And he was a model recruiter, Jean-Luc Brunel.
Jean-Luc Brunel: Key Figure 00:03:54
Let me show you guys real quick.
He often gets forgotten.
Nobody really talks about him too much.
But Brunel, right?
All right, give me one situation if you guys want me to explain how this fucking scheme worked.
Because I realized that we got like 5,000, 6,000 of you guys in here.
A lot of you guys are new.
And a lot of you guys have not watched my Epstein coverage before.
So this might be the first time that you guys are hearing this.
So give me a one if you guys want me to explain how the conspiracy worked.
So you guys have an overview.
So you have more, I guess, a better education grasp on what the fuck is going on here.
I've explained it a few times before, but I do realize we have a lot of new people in here.
All right.
While I do this, I'm going to put on some songs for you guys real quick because I'm going to have to get some names together.
And it's every branch and leaf.
They're born to deceive.
But I'm telling you the truth.
It's not just one or two.
It's every single Jew.
They all hate you.
And it really breaks my heart.
But their lies are off the charts.
And they only bring us harm.
You've got to get smart.
So if you want to be safe and don't want to get replaced, it's best you start being based.
Or you'll get yourself.
Every single time, every single crime.
Every single lie.
Early life.
Every single hour.
Every single day.
Every single night.
Early life.
I know it's hard to accept that all the ones you've met lie with every single breath.
They want you dead.
But you must not be weak.
Just open your eyes and see.
They always exploit the me.
See their vampire tea.
And this can make you cry.
So if you want to live and protect all of your kin, you have to grow thick skin.
Or we want every single time.
Every single crime.
Every single lie.
Early life.
Every single hour.
Every single day.
Every single night.
All right.
All right.
So let's go through this real quick.
Okay.
So I'm going to kind of give you guys what I'm going to do here, guys.
I'm going to summarize the conspiracy, how it worked, how it was done, okay?
Obviously, this is not going to be every single fact, every single event.
It is going to give you guys a broad overview of how this blackmail network worked.
Okay.
So let's get into it.
Obviously, the center and heart piece of this is a guy named Jeffrey Epstein, okay?
Or Epstein, whatever you want to call it.
Glenn Maxwell's Role 00:15:14
This guy was a financier.
All right.
He was involved in finance, billionaire, had a bunch of money, et cetera.
But for some odd reason, nobody was ever able to figure out how the fuck does this guy have all his money?
Well, the reason why he had his money is because he basically was supported by this guy, Les Wexner.
All of Epstein's money basically came from this dude, okay?
The house in Manhattan, etc.
And it's important to note that Les Wexner, okay, if you're wondering every single time, once again, right?
It's like every single time, hardcore Zionist, as well as Jeffrey Epstein, okay?
He is the main financial backer for Jeffrey Epstein because Jeffrey Epstein, right, for a very long time was a math teacher, and then all of a sudden he gets all this money and it's always been, you know, people haven't been able to pin it out.
Now, with all this money, he was with this woman.
Her name is Glenn Maxwell.
She went to trial and was found guilty, okay, alongside Jeffrey Epstein before he, you know, killed himself at the federal prison.
Now, what's important for you guys to understand with Glenn Maxwell, Glenn Maxwell was one of the main recruiters, okay, for getting girls for Jeffrey Epstein.
All right.
And she had a huge network of people.
Her father, okay, was a former Mossad operative.
Okay.
Her dad was this guy right here, Robert Maxwell.
Let me see if I can find him.
There we go.
So this was her father, okay, Robert Maxwell.
Robert Maxwell worked for the Mossad, giving, you know, an intel component.
And if you guys are wondering, he's the guy that's responsible for putting this dude in jail.
A guy named Mordecai Venunu.
Okay.
Let's go back to Glenn Maxwell.
So, okay.
So Jeffrey Epstein is the main, the brains of the operation.
He is assisted by Glenn Maxwell.
Her father, Robert Maxwell, okay, owned a media company that held a bunch, that basically owned a bunch of newspapers.
Okay.
He got a story from this guy, Mordecai Venuna, who was a whistleblower about Israel's nuclear program.
What did he do?
He turned that information over to the Mossad.
The Mossad got a honeypot, got some bitch to flirt with him, lured him to Italy.
He was kidnapped and he ended up spending like 10 years in jail because he took 50 pictures of Israel's illegal nuclear program, which was unacknowledged.
Okay?
So Ghelaine Maxwell's father did that because Mordecai Venunu sold the story to his newspaper.
He alerted the Mossad.
Mossad did a honey trap, caught him, put him in jail.
He's out now, but he spent a lot of time in a Jewish prison.
But that just goes to show you guys the tentacles of how much this expands.
But anyway, when it comes to Glenn Maxwell, Glenn Maxwell, what she would do is she would go to UN meetings.
She'd meet a lot of people.
She was involved in humanitarian acts, right, of the ocean.
Like one of the things that she cared about a lot that she used to lobby for was preserving the ocean, right?
And when she would go to these like, you know, UN meetings and these, you know, gatherings, et cetera, she built up a lot of contacts.
And when she went, she would often bring this guy, Jeffrey Epstein, alongside her.
And J.R. Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, what they basically did was they would recruit women to basically be available.
Now, what Epstein did was when he was living in West Palm Beach, he had a bunch of high school girls, underage high school girls, come to the house and massage him and his famous and rich friends.
Okay.
And if you guys look at the old Jeffrey Epstein case, which I did already, I did a whole episode on this if you guys want on FedReacts, right?
It's like three hours long.
Back in like the mid-2000s, Epstein had a scheme where him and Ghelain were basically recruiting these high school girls from a private school nearby in West Palm Beach, paying them $200, $300, $400 to come over and give himself and other powerful people massages, okay?
Which potentially could lead to other things.
But all these girls were underage, right?
And then once they're on the payroll, he would get these girls to recruit other high school girls to participate in this.
And they'd be flying these girls all over the place.
Epstein had multiple homes.
He had one in West Palm Beach.
He had one in Manhattan, right there, like on Fifth Ave.
He had one in Paris.
He had obviously a ranch in New Mexico.
And obviously he had the island, right?
So he had many different locations where he would fly all these girls around.
This is how this ended up getting federal nexus.
And Glenn Maxwell was his right-hand girl, right-hand lady to help him do this.
Now, alongside Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell recruiting the girls, another person that was extremely critical to this was a guy named Gene Luke Brunel.
Brunel worked for Les Wexner, who again owns Abercrombie and Fitch, Victoria Secret, et cetera.
And what was Luke Brunel's job?
Brunel would get the models.
So he had of age models and he obviously had underage models because when kids advertise the clothing and shit like that.
So he had a huge Rolodex of models that he would utilize.
And he made this Rolodex available to Jeffrey Epstein.
Why?
Because when Jeffrey Epstein would show up to these parties with Glenn Maxwell, he would come with women, Victoria Secret models to be exact.
So if you're the guy where you have all this unexplained wealth, you're coming in with a Glenn Maxwell who wasn't bad looking back in the day, and you got a bunch of Victoria Secret models with you, what's going to happen?
I'll tell you what's going to happen.
Doors are going to open.
The guys are going to say, oh, this guy brought a bunch of chicks here.
Who is this guy?
Who is this dude?
He's a billionaire.
He has this girl by his hand.
You know, everybody, what's going on here?
So what happened was he'd bring the women to these parties, of age women, him and Glenn Maxwell, look like a fucking rock star.
They're like, hey, yeah, we should hang out sometime.
Come to my house in New York.
Come to my house in New Mexico.
Come to my house in Paris.
Come to my island.
Right?
And when they show up, next thing you know, fucking underage girls are there.
Gotcha, bitch.
Now they're compromised.
This is how he was able to get people like Bill Gates caught up.
Alan Dershow was his lawyer caught up, right?
Prince Andrew, Hood Brock, right?
So this was a game.
Penetrate with social proof and women.
Invite powerful people that you meet at these gatherings with your social proof, compromise them, and then utilize that to your advantage.
Right?
So this is how he was around all these powerful people all the time.
So Brunel was critical in getting the women for Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell.
Because Glenn Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein had their own way of recruiting girls.
I told you guys the high school scheme that they did.
But Brunel also had a whole slew of models that they would use, right?
Of age sometimes.
And then when they would bring them back to their place, there'd be underage girls there.
So he had an entire network of both of age and underage.
So you get them in with the of age girls, these Victoria Seeker models.
Then once you get them in and they show up, next thing you know, there's underage girls there and you're cooked.
Obviously, we know, and he had a jet called the Lulita Express, right?
Which Bill Clinton flew on, Donald Trump flew on, Bill Gates, et cetera.
Now, I know what you guys are going to ask next.
Well, Myron, why do you compromise these guys?
Like, what was the goal here?
Well, the goal, guys, is power and leverage.
Okay?
The goal is power and leverage.
It's one thing to have a lot of money and be a billionaire like Jeffrey Epstein was.
It's another thing to actually have power.
They're two different things.
Think about it.
Donald Trump was worth more money before he became president of the United States.
Why would someone who's rich, powerful, why would they take a position in government when they get paid literally nothing?
I think the president's salary is like 500K a year, right?
Why?
It's for power.
At some point, having a bunch of money isn't enough.
It's all about having power.
So what Emcey did was he would get around these powerful people, right?
Compromise them, and then use that to his advantage.
Now, how would he use it to his advantage?
Let me explain.
One of the things that Israel, as you guys know, is extremely good at, if you haven't noticed yet, is technology, right?
We know that Israel's at the forefront of AI, military technology, signals intelligence, right?
Because as you guys know, the IDF, and Israel is a small country in general.
It's surrounded by enemies.
So they have to be on the cutting edge of technology to protect themselves from said enemies that they're surrounded by.
This is why the Mossad is so dangerous.
This is why Unit 8200 is so dangerous.
Shin Bet, etc.
The Israelis heavily rely upon technology.
Now you're probably wondering, Martin, how did he get this technology?
They steal it from us, okay?
They steal it from us, just like they did with the nuclear bomb.
Now you're wondering, how do they steal it from us?
I'll tell you.
Jeffrey Epstein brings bitches around.
Powerful person like, let's say, Bill Gates.
Oh, he's got a lot of chicks.
This is awesome.
Hangs out with Jeffrey Epstein.
One day, Jeffrey Epstein brings in maybe a girl that's underage.
Bill Gates now is compromised.
Okay, well, I got you on video having sex with an underage girl.
I need some money.
But this is what I want you to do.
I want you to make a donation on my name to MIT.
Hmm, that's weird.
Why?
Because MIT, for those of you that don't know, okay, very prestigious school in Massachusetts, in Cambridge, right outside of Boston, is on the cutting edge of technology.
And when you donate to these schools, you're at the forefront of the technology and you see all the research because you're a donor.
They're going to open it up to you.
Guess what Mr. Epstein does with that information?
Gives it to the fucking Israelis.
So when you donate and you become a sponsor, that school is obligated to share that with you to a degree.
You get that information, hand it off.
And I think now at this point, with all the Epstein files, let's confirm what we've all said.
He was absolutely collecting information for the benefit of foreign governments by compromising powerful, wealthy people through blackmail and questionable and or illegal sexual behavior.
And that's basically what ended up happening.
And he used an entire network to do this.
Okay?
But that's basically how the scheme went in general.
How he and Glenn Maxwell work together to compromise powerful people.
Once those people are compromised, they do what they got to do.
And your boy Epstein is able to reap the benefits because now he has the leverage and he can get these powerful people to do what he wants.
And he would use that to his advantage.
And he'll play both sides, absolutely.
Just so you guys know, he played all sides.
He played multiple governments to keep himself protected and safe.
And this is how he was able to get away for so long.
Because he had these powerful people compromised for so long.
So give me one chat if that makes sense.
I'm going to be very clear that that's a very broad overview.
It is not everything, but that's just to give you guys an idea of how the scheme worked.
There's more to it than that.
There's more players involved than that.
Okay?
It goes very deep.
But now you guys have an idea, a summarized idea of what the fuck this guy was doing and who some of his people were that were assisting him.
And Les Wexner often gets overlooked, but Les Wexner is the money behind Jeffrey Epstein.
Okay?
He is the money behind.
And then Gene Luke Brunel was the girl guy for Epstein outside of the network that him and Glenn Maxwell already had of the high school girls.
Because Epstein had his little network of girls in West Palm Beach, but Brunel helped him with everything else.
And it is important to know that this guy also died under mysterious circumstances.
Okay.
It goes here.
Brunel faced allegations of pipping and sexual assault spanning three decades.
He came under scrutiny for his ties to Epstein, with whom he worked from the early 2000s, 2015.
Brunel was accused of grooming girls and taking part in alleged sex trafficking operations involving Epstein in 2019.
The French national police launched an investigation on Brunel after he went into hiding following Epstein's death.
He was arrested on December 16, 2020, and French prosecutors charge him with the grape of minors.
However, he also hanged himself.
Interesting, huh?
Chad?
That he hung himself.
Just like Epstein also had a mysterious death.
But now you guys should be a lot more educated on a thing.
I see a lot of ones, so we'll keep carrying on.
I'm glad that I was able to kind of educate you guys on that right there a little bit.
So now this should make more sense.
Revelations about how close Trump and Epstein were so far.
And if you guys care, I'll show you real quick.
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See, it's just trending so much.
It's not even.
All right.
Let me go to my channel real quick.
You come to my channel, just search Epstein.
Boom.
This video right here, did FC kill himself?
For almost four hours, but I go into super detail.
I read all the police reports, guys, from the early 2000s.
Okay, so if you guys actually want to know intimate details, I will say viewer discretion advised.
This video right here goes into intimate, intimate details of the first investigation when we went to jail the first time.
So I'll drop the link for you guys.
Here you go.
Feel free to put it in your, you know, save later.
And I have meticulous timestamps in there for you guys as well, right here.
Boom.
All the fucking time stamps here.
All the victims, all that shit.
So if you guys want to watch that, probably one of my more detailed-oriented videos.
Okay?
So there's a link if you guys want it.
Watch it on your downtime.
Timestamps are there.
This heavily covers what he was doing at West Palm Beach.
Beyond what we've been told is true, it is no longer possible to hand-wave the files away as just a Democrat hoax.
Pivoting back to the first two documents, I also want to point out something else.
In between the spreadsheets and the accusations, we have emails in August of 2025.
But the thing about these emails is that here we can see that they clearly acknowledge redacting a reporter's name who explicitly is not a victim, Anthony Sibeli, I think is how you say it.
While also on one of the sheets, failing to redact an actual potential victim name, Leslie McMichael, in a further display of incompetence.
Like I said previously, the video isn't focused solely on Donald Trump, but we're looking at well over 5,000 mentions of his name, and that's only the searchable portions of the archive that they've indexed, which hasn't even all been released so far.
Let's move on to someone else, okay?
Arguably the largest individual catalyst who has been deliberately stoking speculation about Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, and that is Elon Musk.
Elon has long maintained his near total separation from Epstein.
He claims that the and just so you guys know, this video just came out from this guy on Epstein.
They just released another batch of the Epstein files.
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Is Kash Patel going to be punished for lying under oath when he said he didn't see the Trump see Trump in the files?
I'd have to remember.
I know he basically said some bullshit when he testified, but we'll see.
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Why is Trump suing his own government under his own administration for $10 billion if he didn't want to take a salary this whole time?
Yeah, I did.
I did hear about that that he's trying to sue them.
I don't know.
Ultra billionaires desensitized to the point of participating in fucked up scenarios, getting their kicks.
Literal demons.
Sterling, bro.
I was talking to people at my work about the truth about the black community, and they called me an Uncle Tom and a coon.
Yeah, bro.
Of course, they're going to say that.
What do you expect?
You think they're going to sit there and be like, yeah, you right, Kooz?
Yeah, we are bitching too much.
No, man.
Niggas don't want to take accountability.
Papa, any advice for a 40-year-old who has red pill rage and says all women are evil for not giving pussy claims.
They don't want him because he's short.
Probably a bunch of other things too.
Big boss, take your mom.
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Appreciate you.
But yeah, here's my brother's channel right here, guys.
It's called Read Report.
Drop the link for you guys again.
Yeah, if we don't hit our goal, though, I'm going to get off.
I'm going to go to OSS only if we don't hit our number goal, guys.
We got to get 3,000 likes at least.
Okay.
3,000 likes.
We're only sitting at like 2,000.
Smash that goddamn like button, chat.
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Let's get to 3,000 likes.
But in the meantime, back to it.
Photograph.
And now there are over 3 million new documents available that people are still going through.
So they published quite a bit.
There's a lot of new information out there.
I mean, it's pretty surprising they released this much.
Melania's Movie Premiere 00:03:19
And it's also funny they released the files the same day as the premiere of Melania Trump's movie because the director of the movie, Brett Ratner.
Ooh.
I didn't even realize her movie was debuted.
It was in the recent files.
Bro, honestly, though, who's trying to watch that shit?
Come on, man.
Who don't give a fuck about Melania?
Like, bro, nobody cares about the first lady.
Okay.
Well, why do we look?
I don't want to sound like an asshole or whatever, but let's just keep it a thousand.
Okay.
Why do we even have like a title for these?
Like, yo, they should be in the kitchen, bro.
Like, your man's a world leader.
We don't care about your fucking wife.
Get him out of here.
Only in the United States do we fucking pedestalize the fucking wife of the president?
Who cares?
Who cares?
Like, what?
In a pretty damning way.
And people already knew this guy was a creep, but it's just crazy the same day.
Okay, Brett Ratner with Epstein and a teenage girl.
Brett Ratner with our first lady at the premiere of the Melani movie, which he directed.
This guy's name is Brett Ratner.
Let's see.
Every single time, every single crime, every single lie.
Every single hour, every single day.
My God.
Yo, yo.
It's like, yo, like, what the fuck, man?
Like, what the fuck is going on, bro?
The noticing will never stop, bro.
Oh, my God, bro.
Like, yo, like, what?
Do the shut it down.
Do the shut it down.
Spend that little hat around.
Do the shut it down.
Do the shut it down.
Like, yo!
Like, what the fuck is going on now?
Every single time, bro.
It's starting.
It's like a fucking meme, dude.
It's literally a meme at this point.
And you know, it's funny.
MC wrote a bunch of emails calling us Goy, bro.
It's like, it's not my fault that I have to do this.
You only pick on me because I'm Jewish.
Stop being a jealous loser and go get a job.
I'm chosen by God like bruh Yo, this shit is crazy.
Look, I got some bitch-ass thing in the chat saying Myron is so happy in his echo chamber.
Yeah, and you can enjoy this echo chamber in the shadow realm, you bitch ass nigga.
Enjoy.
The fuck out of my chat.
The fuck out of my chat, you bitch.
Stupid ass nigga coming in here.
Like, what?
How many more times do I have to fucking like, yo, it's like, yo, it's every single time with these guys, bro?
That fucking band guy's probably Jewish himself.
Enjoy the shadow realm, bitch.
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As the premiere of his movie, Trump's DOJ releases pictures of him and Epstein together with their arms around two young girls.
So what a way for Trump to promote his wife's movie.
But this was all.
See, boom.
Here he is.
Party, social gathering.
That's what Epstein did, bro.
Bro was out there all the time with his chick.
Overshadowed by Bill Gates and Elon Musk being mentioned in the files.
They got the most attention here so far because Bill was mentioned by Epstein.
And here's the thing.
So Epstein would force Bill Gates to donate to MIT and to these Ivy League schools on his behalf.
And then Epstein would oversee the research.
And the reason why your boy Epstein would oversee the research was so that he could go ahead and collect this information and give it to the intelligence agencies.
Right?
We know that intelligence agencies love breaking technology.
Cut breaking.
Excuse me.
Groundbreaking technology.
Epstein an email where he said Bill caught an STD from a Russian prostitute.
Ooh.
Then asked him for antibiotics that he wanted to secretly give to his wife without her knowing.
And it looks like Epstein was trying to use this story as blackmail to force business deals with Bill Gates.
So this could just be something he made up.
Pretty much.
And Bill Gates made a bunch of donations to schools on in his name, in Epstein's name.
We know Bill was pretty close with him for a while.
And that was a big reason why his wife wanted a divorce.
So this story sounds believable, which Elon Musk was probably hoping everyone would just focus on that because his emails with Epstein were also a pretty bad look.
It turns out Elon hasn't really been truthful about his relationship with him.
I mean, he always acted like he barely knew Epstein.
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Senior Maxwell.
I'll give y'all like 10 minutes.
We've already been on for three and a half hours.
Would always refuse invitations to their parties.
Like there's a picture of him and Maxwell together, and he said he didn't know her and she photobombed him.
Then also last year, he responded to an article on Twitter and said, Epstein tried to get me to his island and I refused.
But now if you go back to that post, there's a community note and it says Musk asked Epstein when the best time to go to his island was.
So Elon's own site is calling him out here because it turns out he actually really wanted to go to the island.
And there are emails where he's asking Epstein about the parties and he's trying to plan to go to some of them.
And I don't know if he ever did, but he was definitely interested in going.
It does not seem like he was refusing invitations.
So he has some audacity to say that when it's like the opposite.
Elon kept asking Epstein about coming to the island to party.
In 2012, Elon asked him what night would be the wildest party on the island.
So it's not like he can even claim this was just business-related stuff.
Like some bruh, other people say he's admitting he's looking to party.
Like after that, he sent another email and said, Do you have any parties planned?
I really want to hit the party scene and let loose.
This invitation is much appreciated.
But a peaceful island experience is the opposite of what I'm looking for.
And at this time, Epson was trying to go nuts.
Epstein was already a registered sex offender and he was convicted of soliciting a 14-year-old for prostitution.
So people already knew what he was like.
But again, in 2013, Elon was messaging him about coming to a Christmas.
And guys, don't forget that Epstein already went to jail at this point.
I think he went to jail like in 2007, 2008.
And he ended up getting like no jail time pretty much.
He went to jail, then like came back.
Like he treated like a day at work.
He got like a fucking lightest sentence ever.
And then the feds ended up not charging him.
This in New Year's party, Epstein asked him if he wanted to come to the Caribbean with him and Woody Allen for Christmas.
And Elon said yes.
He was also asking about Woody Allen.
Every single time It's hard to believe it's double for us, bruh, bruh.
Visiting the see, notice how, like, this guy, this dude, uh, too lazy to try, he's not like connecting the dots on purpose because niggas know who owns YouTube, right?
2% of the population is like 50% of the billionaire class and runs the government and runs big tech.
But then you do your own little investigating and you figure out, oh, of course, of course.
But then they call me a vile anti-semi for noticing.
Island for New Year's.
They're scheduling it.
Oh, shit, I didn't read these chats.
JD says, if Trump had nothing to hide and his administration, why did he immediately release a file if he couldn't?
Why did he immediately open up an investigation?
Hell, why did he investigate his own assassination attempt?
Roy Cohen groomed Trump before Epstein.
It was Roy Cohen.
Andrew Wilson can't accept it's not a left and right issue.
There's more to Trump.
It might be a reason why he is in the business of pageants.
Unfortunately that more energy goes into debating the claims than using platforms to demand accountability and protect children, trusting agency, FBI, et cetera, face value is hard for some.
Castro says, unfortunately that more energy goes into debating these claims.
Oh no, got that one.
Halfway Crook says, with the Epstein files, you think it's possible they had a conversation with Trump and threatened him to not release them?
Do you think something like that may have gone down?
Well, they say in the files that he's fucking compromised, guys.
They did say that.
That he's compromised.
Literally.
Literally, it says that.
So we'll see.
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But then Epstein had a cancel on him.
He said, bad news.
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Schedule will keep me in New York.
I was looking forward to spending some time together with Just Fun as the agenda.
I'm very disappointed.
So, it sounds like Elon might not have gone to the island, but it was only because Epstein had to bail.
Basically, the opposite of what Elon claimed originally.
You know, it sounds like he really wanted to go and kept asking about it, but Epstein was too busy or maybe didn't want to hang out with him.
So, this whole thing is really embarrassing.
You know, I can't believe he spent all this time accusing everyone else of being in the files and saying he refused to go to the island.
But it turns out he was kind of begging to go to the wild parties there, but he's still trying to gaslight people about it.
He made a tweet and said, No one pushed harder than me to have the Epstein files released, and I'm glad that it's finally happening.
I had very little correspondence with Epstein and declined repeated invitations to go to his island or fly in his private jet, Lolita Express, but was well aware that some of the email correspondence with him could be misinterpreted and used by detractors to smear my name.
And I guess people could misinterpret this as him actually going to the island.
You know, of course, there are people claiming that, but he definitely wanted to go.
I mean, I don't know how you could misinterpret him asking when the wildest parties are and if he has any planned.
I mean, it sounds like he's looking for an invitation.
It's crazy.
If he didn't go, he just happened to get lucky that Epstein had to cancel.
Even though at the time it sounds like he's really disappointed about it, you know, he's looking to have some fun, but now he's trying to gaslight people into thinking, like, no, I turned down every invitation.
I wanted nothing to do with him.
So now that this has come out, people are like, damn, Elon's so annoying.
Even the billionaire pedocult didn't want to party with him.
Like, Epstein had a chance to get blackmail, but I guess he just didn't want to hang around Elon.
But of course, Elon's fans are trying to spin this, like, somehow it proved that he did turn down invitations to the island and this vindicates him, which is ridiculous.
Also, Elon gave Epstein a tour of SpaceX, but previously claimed he didn't think he ever did.
And his brother was set up with a girl by Epstein and had to be warned not to harm her.
So it's funny, Elon keeps accusing everyone else of being in the files when he's in there trying to get an invitation to the wildest parties on the island.
Known Epstein clients, who are obviously extremely powerful, powerful politically and very wealthy, are Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, and Reid Hoffman.
And some others too, but those three.
And breaking news, just like I knew would happen.
They unbanned Hassan only after 72 hours.
It was supposed to be a seven-day ban and they only banned him for 72 for three days, basically.
It's supposed to be seven days.
They saw those YouTube numbers that said fucking unfolded.
And honestly, dude, that's good.
I know.
Look, I don't, you guys know.
Actually, I made a whole tweet about this shit.
Let me see if I could pull it up for y'all real fast.
Because one thing, dude, that I honestly think needs to happen is streamers, creators, etc., like, we need to fucking ban together against these fucking platforms, bro, because they have way too much power and they try to tell motherfuckers like what it is when in reality, these dudes are nothing without us.
You know what I mean?
And let me show y'all real quick.
And I think we are getting to that point now where we're going to finally be able to tell these guys, like, yo, fuck off.
You know?
So I made this tweet right here, right?
Quick little side tangent here.
Take a break from Epstein, but we're going to get back into it.
worry uh so i go uh right here Shit.
Sorry, guys.
Getting some of this shit back up.
So I go, I'm not a fan of Sam, but this is a straight W for every streamer and critter, Twitch banner for calling out rabid ultra-Zionist pigs amid pressure from the ADL and pro-Israel groups.
So he streams on YouTube, guys.
He gets a peak of 146k live viewers, made 18,000 super chat, and he ended up donating that.
So I'll give him credit.
Donated that to, I think, some kind of immigration cause.
He should have given it to fucking somewhere else, but whatever.
I get it.
And I go, basically, creators build you.
You don't build us.
We deliver the viewers and engage in revenue when you weaponize vague inconsistent guidelines to silence Todd Talent over politics or speech you dislike, you don't win, right?
So, this was some of his numbers after the stream, right?
And then right here, Zias, right?
Who aren't even really like they're YouTubers mostly.
They don't really stream like that, but they ran into the head of Twitch over here, aka the fucking guner god, Dan Clancy.
And this is what happened.
Very nice.
What are you guys streaming?
What do you say?
What are we streaming?
What platform do you stream on?
YouTube?
Oh, you stream on YouTube?
That's the card.
Look at him.
Niggas like, you stream on YouTube.
What?
Come on, don't you want to be a streaming star?
Yo, yo, but y'all be banning niggas, though.
Facts.
I'm glad he said that shit.
What do you mean?
Y'all be banning.
Niggas said, what do you mean?
Get the fuck out of here.
And here's the crazy part.
This nigga will ban people.
Like, they banned me, for example, right, for off-platform behavior, but they literally got women like sucking microphones on camera, guys.
I kid you not.
Girls literally like whisper in the mic and do sexual shit on Twitch.
No fucking consequences.
See, and he's smiling because he knows it's true.
Like they fucking banned their top guy.
Hassan is their top fucking political streamer on the left.
Him and Osman Gold.
This is who be banning people.
He's the one that breaks the ball.
He got the button.
The button, man.
Break the rules and get back on.
Yeah, you get to break the rules, get back on.
If only that was actually what happened, that's not what happens whatsoever.
Niggas be perma banning niggas.
And like, we need to start calling out these motherfuckers more like this, bro.
Honestly.
And I just commented on this, actually.
Let me show y'all.
If you hit my replies, I knew it.
They folded after seeing his numbers on YouTube.
If he was smart, he wouldn't go back unless they fixed their bitch-ass TOS.
That's what Hassan should do.
Because they're just going to keep banning him every time he talks about Israel or whatever.
Because the ADL has a fucking heart on for him.
You know?
And the other thing, too, with Hassan, why he's a retard, and a lot of these leftists are retards, like they don't want to call it what it is, bro.
Okay, it's not just Zionists, bro.
All right.
We know who it is.
But obviously, he doesn't want to go down that road.
But the thing is that these niggas are going to ban you no matter what you do, bro.
They're going to call you anti-semite no matter what you fucking do.
So, yeah, we'll see.
He's probably going to go back to Twitch, though.
If I was him, I'd be like, you niggas better never ban me again or else I'm gone for good.
And you guys need to fix your fucking dumbass TOS.
But Twitch is there.
There's no way.
I don't see Twitch existing for another five years.
There's no way they're not going to go under business and go out of business, dude.
There's no fucking way.
Them niggas are going to be cooked sooner or later.
Elon's Claims on Tesla 00:15:23
So, you know, why was Reid Hoffman so intent on destroying Trump?
You think it's because they're worried about the list coming out?
Yeah.
One of the reasons.
Yeah.
And then, of course, after that, Elon said Trump didn't remember that shit.
The list out because he's in there, which he wasn't wrong about, but it turns out they're both in there.
And Trump decided to pull the reverse Uno card on him and release his emails.
So these people are just trying to bullshit everyone and each other.
Like, he obviously knows more about this than he lets on.
I mean, he always tweets about it and discusses it on podcasts, but acts like he had no involvement.
And maybe those emails are the full extent of it, and he didn't go to any of the parties.
But I mean, it looks suspicious either way, especially because he always said he refused to go and turn down invitations.
Also, this was after people already knew Epstein was a creep.
So he gets arrested and then he gets like a little slap on the wrist and then he's back in action with all these rich people again.
Yep.
Like really rich, influential people like Bill Gates is hanging out with him after he's already been arrested and convicted.
Like that's bait.
So just last year, Rogan was talking about how crazy it is that these billionaires still hung out with Epstein after he's arrested.
But now that his buddy Elon was exposed for trying to go to the island after he's arrested, I'm sure Joe will have to probably change his tune on this and think of some way to spin it and defend Elon.
So that'll be interesting to see.
I mean, I think Elon is the first person in the files that we've seen actually kind of ask for an invitation to the parties, wild parties on the island.
And Epstein had a chance to get dirt on him, but it's like, I got better things to do.
So maybe Elon's pushing for the release of the files because he's bitter.
He didn't get to go to the island.
Like he's still calling for the prosecution of the clients and says they need to release all the videos.
So maybe now that these emails are out, he has absolutely nothing to hide anymore.
Also, there's another one that I just saw that he's sharing because he did deny an invitation to Epstein's house in New York.
And just so you guys know, he Epstein had cameras everywhere.
Everywhere.
And this email exchange is hilarious because it sounds like Elon thought this was an invitation to some professional business event that was going to be boring.
But then Epstein's like, dude, are you kidding me?
We got girls here.
So first he says, any plans for New York?
The opening of the General Assembly has many interesting people come to the house.
Elon says, I run and lead product design engineering for two complicated companies.
Moreover, SpaceX is about to launch what is arguably the most advanced rocket in history.
Flying to New York to see UN diplomats do nothing would be an unwise use of my time.
Then Epstein responded and said, And then also in the files, just so you guys know, it also came out that Robert Maxwell was killed because he tried to blackmail the Israeli government.
Well, that was a big mistake.
Nope.
Them niggas killed him because he mysteriously died on his boat.
We all know who killed him.
Bro was giving information to the Masada.
He was threatening to expose them.
And them niggas fucking clapped him.
Do you think I'm retarded?
Just kidding.
There's no one over 25 and all very cute.
And I think that was the end of the email exchange.
At least that was all that was part of the recent file drop.
So it looks like Elon did deny that invitation, probably because it wasn't an invitation to the island.
I mean, this was after Elon kept asking about that, and Epstein had a cancel on him.
So he's probably getting annoyed.
Like Epstein was wasting his time.
But to be fair, it looks like he didn't go to this event, which also was a party environment, sounds like.
So now, of course, his fans are like, see, he did turn down Epstein, even though he still did lie about it.
And he said he turned down Invitation to the Island.
But he's really.
guys it's one big club and we're not a part of it chat really asked him to go to the island and he really turned down invitation epstein's new york city residents that he originally thought was a business event also this proves he definitely knew epstein more than he let on and he confirmed this email was legit he's He said there are a lot of fake emails flying around, but this one is real.
And of course, there are some fake ones going around that Elon will probably use to try to discredit the rest of them.
Like, there's this one that people keep sharing and acting like it's legit, which is stupid because the rest of them are.
All right, let's get back to the original vid.
Graph of him and Ghelane Maxwell is just a photo bomb that she perpetrated.
And he had they correspond back and forth a bit longer.
But anyone who reads this conversation can decidedly say with certain and you guys know, look, when it comes to, because you guys have asked me about Elon Musk, I'm not that much of a fan of Elon Musk.
Look, I respect the fact that he brought Twitter back, made it more free speech, made it a lot better.
But Elon guys is a fraud.
All right, I've talked about this many times.
That a lot of his accolades are AstroTurf.
They're not really his.
He's stolen a lot of credit from other people.
Here, you know what?
I got a video for you on Niggas.
I'll just, I could show it better than I can explain it.
And then you guys will kind of know the truth about Elon Musk.
But yeah, dude, he's uh and me and him have gotten gotten into it because uh I didn't like that he fucking um I don't like that uh he fucking took my blue check and demonetized me for talking about H1B visas because obviously he runs a tech company and H-1B visas, they fucking love it.
So they didn't like that.
He didn't like that.
Fucking dickhead took my shit away.
But I'll get you guys a video here in a second.
Certainty that Epstein was not asking Elon to go to his island.
Elon was trying to go.
Oh, that's not enough?
Okay, I can understand that.
Some people really drank the Kool-Aid.
Here's an email from Musk to Epstein after Epstein asks, how many people will you be for the Helly to the Island, saying, quote, probably just to Tallulah and me.
Tallulah was his wife at the time.
What day/slash night will be the wildest party on your island?
End quote.
Epstein tried to get me to go to his island and I refused.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Ultimately, for this particular set of exchanges, it doesn't look like Elon actually attended the party in 2012 or 2013.
But a couple of months later, in February, we see this thread between Musk and Epstein seemingly indicating that Epstein was given some kind of private tour of SpaceX.
Interestingly, when it comes to Epstein receiving tours of various facilities, that's not even the only example.
Right here, with this email, we can look at the competence of the redaction team yet again, and it's really not good.
In this particular email, guarantee you guys, it was fucking stupid ass like retarded interns.
From March of 2014, Epstein is corresponding with an unknown redacted individual.
And yet, in this next thread, document EFTA00985800, we can see the same exact email, this time unredacted, with the name Alan Jones.
There is no justifiable or legal reason to be redacting that man's name.
Just for the sake of really hammering this point home so that even the brain-dead fans of Elon Musk are still able to fully comprehend.
Let me read.
Yeah, if you're a fan of Elon Musk, you're probably a retard.
I'll be honest.
Read one more email thread before moving on to the next document.
This one.
December of 2012, which, for clarity's sake, is after, after Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of procuring a minor for prostitution in 2008.
Quote from Epstein: You are welcome to stay or just come for the day.
Plenty of room.
I will send Heli to get you, end quote.
To which Elon replies, Do you have any parties planned?
I've been working to the edge of sanity this year.
And so once my kids head home after Christmas, I really want to hit the party scene in St. Bart's or elsewhere and let loose.
The invitation is much appreciated, but a peaceful island experience is the opposite of what I'm looking for.
End quote.
Still not finished, by the way.
Epstein replies, understood.
I will see you on St. Barth.
The ratio on my island might make Talila uncomfortable, end quote.
After which Elon chimes in again, quote, ratio is not a problem for Tallulah, end quote.
Honestly, I really don't think I have to spell it out here.
All right, quick little thing on Elon Musk.
You guys want to get the reality?
Quick little background on our guy, Elon.
Because a lot of people don't.
A lot of people don't know this shit.
So I'm about to red pill you guys on Elon Musk right now, bro.
Pop culture has touted Elon Musk.
And shout out to Greg Reese for dropping this, by the way.
He used to be part of Infowars.
I think he's independent now.
But yeah.
As some sort of eccentric, heavyweight genius with humble beginnings.
But this is demonstrably false.
Elon Musk was born in South Africa, where he claims he grew up extremely poor, but his family owned an emerald mine.
As a teenager, Elon would trade emeralds for cash in New York City.
And his father bragged how they had so much money we couldn't even close our safe.
Bruh.
Musk claims to have had about $100,000 of student loan debt, but he received a full scholarship to the University of Pennsylvania, where he bought a 10-bedroom frat house with his friend Adeo Ressi and ran an illegal nightclub.
The pop culture claim is that Elon has an IQ of 155, but this has never been tested.
And after being accepted into Stanford for PhD studies, he dropped out after two days.
After dropping out, Elon began his first business venture with his brother Kimball, Zip2, which was essentially a digital version of the Yellow Pages.
The brothers received tens of thousands of dollars from their parents, and yet Elon denies this.
An associate of Elon's father, Greg Curry, got involved to bring in investors.
But Elon's code was no good, so they had to hire on professional coders to rewrite everything.
Zip2 was...
And you guys are going to see a trend here where he's going to take credit for other people's work.
Then sold for $307 million to Compaq, who later shut it down without ever earning a profit.
Which is kind of the story with a lot of these tech guys.
They take credit for other people's work, right?
Just like Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs was a fucking asshole, treated all of his employees poorly, took credit for things he didn't build, but everyone looks at him as the genius, the innovator.
Oh my God, this guy is so fucking brilliant.
A lot of these technocrats are fucking pieces of shit, man.
Whether it's Elon Musk, Alex Carr, Peter Thiel, Steve Jobs.
They have quirky personalities.
They're not really personable.
They steal people's work.
They put it off as their own.
And since they have so much money and status, no one can really do nothing to them.
So when there's no accountability and no one can really hold you accountable, like, what are you going to do?
You're going to be a piece of shit.
And you become a pompous fucking retard.
I've shown you guys this many times with Alex Karp and Peter Thiel.
Peter Thiel can barely formulate a fucking sentence.
He's a retard.
Alex Karp is word salad God.
He's one of the most infuriating people to listen to by far.
Alex Karp.
And if you're wondering, yes, he is.
Elon made $22 million, bought a $1 million McLaren F1 supercar, which made mainstream news before he totaled the uninsured vehicle.
Musk then went on to create an online bank, X.com.
He partnered with banking expert Harris Fricker, Edward Ho, and Christopher Payne.
All three ended up leaving the company after accusing Elon of lying to the media about the quality of their product.
Elon claims he founded PayPal.
Before the company was named PayPal, it was known as Confiniti.
It was founded in 1990.
And here you go, Peter Thiel.
AKA, Sussman.
He ate by Peter Thiel and Max Lefchen.
After losing millions of dollars, Elon's X.com was bought by Confiniti in a merger in 2000.
All Musk contributed at Confinity was his own power struggle.
He made himself CEO and pushed to change the name to X.com.
The executive team successfully petitioned to fire Musk while he was away on vacation.
Part of Musk's resignation agreement stipulated that all references to founders of the company will be removed from their website, allowing Elon to claim credit, which so far is all he has ever achieved.
A lot of people don't know that, chat.
A lot of people do not know that.
Peter Thiel then rebranded the company as PayPal, went public, and sold to eBay for $1.5 billion.
Elon made $180 million from the deal, which he then invested into Tesla, SpaceX, and failed company Solar City.
So he basically made a bunch of money from a company he didn't build up at all that he claims he built up, and then he used that to start up some of these other ventures.
Elon falsely claims to be the founder of Tesla.
Tesla was founded in 2003 by Mark Tarpening and Martin Eberhard.
Nobody ever talked about that.
who developed the Tesla Roadster.
When Tesla Motors began looking for venture capital, they approached Elon Musk, who had the fake credibility as PayPal's co-founder.
But we know that's the truth of that one.
Musk joined with the condition that he be named chairman of the board.
In emails, Musk was upset that the media was not giving him credit for Tesla Motors and went after Martin Eberhard, replacing him as CEO.
He then forced Eberhard out of the company.
So as you guys can see here, like one of the biggest things that matters to Elon Musk is clout notoriety being labeled the boss optics, right?
Because you guys want to know how I knew something was off?
So like, I knew something was off because like last year especially, bros on Twitter all fucking day tweeting like 100 times a day.
So I was like, yo, how the fuck are you running all these companies, right, and doing all this shit when you're tweeting all day?
And then my suspicion was further confirmed when, if you guys remember, at the beginning of the Trump presidency in January, he basically took on Doge full-time.
Allegedly full-time.
But he had time to run around and fuck girls like Ashley Sinclair and shit like that.
So it's like, like, I knew something was off, like, right then and there.
And rewrote the company's history.
And that's the reality with a lot of these fucking tech bros, man.
To have himself listed as an original co-founder.
Martin Eberhard, the man behind the Tesla Roadster, was promised the first Roadster off the assembly line.
But Musk screwed him over on that as well and sent that car into space.
Bruh.
You can tell it's real because it looks so fake, honestly.
So who is Elon Musk?
Elon describes his father as being an evil, abusive man.
His father, Errol Musk, has been accused of being a pedophile and fathered a child with his stepdaughter, who is 42 years younger than him.
Bruh.
Switching Over to Steve Bannon 00:04:24
Guys, smash that like button.
We're sitting at, what are we sitting at here?
We're sitting at 2,200.
We're almost four hours in.
This spoiled, narcissistic failure, son of accused pedophile, wants to put computer chips in everyone's brain so that we can merge with artificial intelligence.
His girlfriend is now bragging how this could all lead to a communist utopia.
And strangely enough, former Nazi and head of NASA, Werner von Braun, predicted a man named Elon would conquer Mars in a 1952 novel that he wrote.
Which is odd because NASA has partnered with Elon SpaceX to work towards colonizing Mars.
Elon Musk, like everything else in today's modern society, is a fraud, a fake genius, just like fake philanthropist Bill Gates and his fake vaccines.
Brought to you by the fake news.
Here's a pro tip for dealing with the mainstream media and all of pop culture.
Assume it's a lie and research everything.
You can tell it's real because it looks so fake, honestly.
Crazy.
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All right.
It's been four hours, ninjas.
The show goes on, though.
We're not going anywhere.
The show goes on.
Okay.
I'm not leaving.
I'm not fucking leaving.
The show goes on.
This is my home.
They're going to need a fucking wrecking ball to take me out of here.
They're going to need to send in the National Guard a fucking SWAT team because they ain't going my way.
Can you review the Epstein and Steve Bannon interview that was leaked?
Yeah, I'll cover it.
I'll cover it.
What else?
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