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Jan. 27, 2026 - MyronGainesX
01:50:04
Debating Liberals On The ICE Shooting Of Alex Pretti! Justified Or Murdered?
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Ice Shooting Incident 00:03:21
All right, what's up, Ninjas?
We are live.
We are live.
I just wanted to get right into it, man, because we don't have much time.
We got Money Monday later today.
So, as you guys know, just going to kind of get right into it.
A bunch of stuff going on.
Let me go ahead and jump on Twitter real quick.
I think they're talking about this situation right now with the ICE shooting.
We'll cover that first, and then we'll get into some of the other news.
But let me jump in his Twitter space with y'all real quick.
But we do have Money Monday with Roger.
We're going to be talking real estate, guys.
That's going to be a banger.
So let's go ahead and go in here real quick to successfully carry out the mass deportations that we voted for.
That's all.
Thanks.
So after everything, you know, now, would you say this was a justified shooting, sir?
So one second.
I have always said that.
Yeah, let's go to in the meantime.
Let me just bring it to a new Douala.
I want to hear from a new vice guy, Douala.
Yes, thank you for letting me speak.
Can you guys hear me?
Yeah.
Yes.
Suleiman, I've been following you for a while and I know you really value difference of opinion in your heart, right?
But then you have to hear difference of opinion from someone who's clearly trying to lie to you.
So for example, in this case, with this Alex Predi being shot, we can all see that the ICE officers are the one who instigated everything.
But then it's then turned around that he's the one at fault.
Just like the people in Palestine, like just like the sorry, one sec, one sec.
Just like in Palestine, like that's what the IDF they always say.
They always come out with like, oh, we thought they had a gun behind them.
Like it's a kid.
He's five years old.
How do you deal with that?
It's a totally different, and I'll answer your question.
And actually, I'm glad Myron's come on because there's an example of me allowing, you know, having different opinions on this space.
But in terms of to answer your question, I think it's actually unacceptable that you would actually compare something that's happened there to what's happening in Gaza.
Gaza is a real life genocide that we saw over the last two and a half years.
People were murdered on a daily basis on different ways.
Show me where on the streets of the United States of America you have people, children, seven-year-olds having a gunshot to the head and a gunshot to the heart.
But I'll answer your question more fully in a second.
I just want to, because I don't know how long we've got Myron for.
Just want to welcome Marin onto the stage.
Myron, how are you doing?
Yo, what's up, man?
Can you guys hear me?
Yo, oh, Myron, are you there?
Yo, can you guys hear me?
I'm sorry, I was adjusting my mic.
You guys know how it is whenever I come into spaces.
Yeah.
Yeah, what's up, man?
Yeah, no, I you wanted my take on this?
Yeah, yeah.
Give us your entire take on this entire incident in terms of from the start to the end.
Okay, before I say what I'm going to say, if you're a pussy, just walk away from your phone or don't listen or cover your ears because Myron's an uncle Tom.
Myron's an uncle Tom.
Reasonable Person Defense 00:12:03
Get this guy out of here.
Hey, shut the fuck up, Baboon.
Shut the fuck up, Baboon.
Nobody asked you.
Okay, nobody fucking asked you.
You eat it.
Myron, I actually respect you, but do you mind when you break it down for us?
Can you just like without if I if I disagree, can you not just call me a faggot just because I well you said everyone's just crushing out.
I don't get it.
Like they come on here and they start losing their minds, bro.
Yo, I'm telling you, bro.
This is why, yo, I got to ask everybody in here before I go into this.
America, was the cotton worth it?
Honestly, was the fucking cotton worth it?
These niggas are retarded.
They're like, I didn't even say what I was going to say, and they're already fucking losing their minds, these fucking fried chicken connoisseurs.
But anyway, so, okay, let's go through this.
The first thing that people need to understand is that use of force is never looked at from a 2020 hindsight perspective, which is what most people do.
A lot of people come in and say, oh, this is a bad shoot because I looked at this footage from this angle and he didn't even have a gun.
That's irrelevant.
What matters is, was the shooting reasonable to the person that pulled the trigger at the time the person pulled the trigger and the deadly force was applied?
That's how he's going to be judged, and that's how deadly force is going to be judged.
It's always based on, was it reasonable?
Now, let's go through the facts of what went through prior to him pulling the trigger.
Clearly, he is having an altercation with some female, right?
He pushes a female.
Now, what I'm going to presume, because I've seen ICE operate in Minneapolis, is when they're pushing protesters away, a lot of times these protesters are in their face and/or trying to impede some type of immigration operation, okay?
He pushes the woman out the way.
Predi gets involved and he puts his hand on the ICE agent to kind of stop the ICE agent from engaging with this woman.
In retaliation, the agent pepper sprays him.
After he pepper sprays him, he tries to detain him, right?
It could be for whatever reason.
There's two women there, a man.
The man obviously is the bigger threat.
So he immediately puts his attention to the guy.
That's the biggest threat and tries to detain him.
As he's trying to detain him, other law enforcement officials, Border Patrol, ICE, whatever it may be, start coming over.
They get him down to the ground.
And at this point, someone yells gun.
Okay.
Now, whenever you yell gun and you're a law enforcement guy, like on your partners are yelling gun, obviously everything is going to be heightened.
Luckily, one of the agents was able to disarm him and take the gun away.
While disarming him and walking away, the gun accidentally discharged.
The gun in question is a six-hour.
I forget the exact model, but the model that this guy had on him is notorious for misfiring, having accidental charges, et cetera.
While some of these agents were struggling with this guy on the ground, another agent disarmed him and walked away with the gun.
As he was trying to walk away with the gun, the gun fired.
Okay.
Now, the other agent didn't know that that gun firing was from an accidental discharge from the gun being taken from the suspect.
He just heard a gunshot.
Since he heard that gunshot, it would be reasonable to assume, okay, this guy's armed.
I just heard a gunshot.
What's going on here?
And then he shoots him.
And then on top of that, keep in mind, the agent that shot him was to Predi's left.
Okay.
Predi was making movements with his right hand as he was struggling with law enforcement at that time.
Okay.
And there's like a picture and video of this.
Now, that doesn't necessarily mean he was going for the gun and he was trying to hurt the agents, but you know that he has a gun, you know that he's resisting, you heard a gun shot.
A reasonable person would believe, oh, wow, this guy's armed, and I hear a gunshot.
What happened?
I'm not going to take any chances.
They shoot him, back up, finish the job, eliminate the threat.
Then they find out later that he didn't have the gun and it was an accidental discharge.
But the reason why he's the agent is not going to be prosecuted and it's going to be a clean shoe is because a reasonable person, given a reasonable person put in a situation like that in a split-second decision, it would be reasonable to respond in that way.
So use of force isn't about being 100% correct 2020 hindsight.
It's about being reasonable at the time you pull the trigger.
So I hope that makes sense.
But that's that's kind of why this shooting is going to be probably more than likely cleared.
Myron, just on from your perspective of law enforcement, is there going to be an independent inquiry?
Yeah, there has to be.
Anytime there's a shooting, there's going to be a case opened by what's called ICE OPR, or well, in this case, it's going to be the Customs and Border Protection OPR, AKA Professional Office of Professional Responsibility.
The state and locals might do, might open a case.
But yeah, there's always almost always at least one or two other independent investigations.
Most of the time, there's an internal one with the agency, and then there's another one done by the state to investigate the shooting.
You're someone who carries a gun quite regularly, right?
Yeah.
And when you look at the incident, you could quite easily have been put in that position.
He's not massively aggressive at all.
He's kind of like, he's quite nerdy guy.
Do you not worry that basically this can be targeted against actual gun holders like you?
No, because, and I'll say this too.
So as a concealed carry, you know, owner, like this guy was, like, you have to, you have to be intelligent and you're going to be held to a different standard.
Like, if you're carrying a gun, right?
The dumbest thing you can do is touch a federal law enforcement officer as he's doing an operation and dealing with another suspect, right, or person or subject.
Like you're held to a way higher standard.
And getting into an altercation with law enforcement when you're armed is the dumbest thing that you can do.
Okay.
Are you okay to take some questions, Myron?
Yeah, sure.
I'm sure people are probably mad.
Yeah, you got from, and I do want to give other people just a chance to kind of push back on you and then you can give your perspective.
But if we could do it respectfully, guys, that would be awesome.
That way we can get some good conversation.
Joe, I know you've been following the case quite a lot.
Is there anything question you've got for Myron?
Yeah, I mean, me and Myron talked earlier, but here, Myron's made me look into it more, right?
And from Myron's interpretation, I completely understand his point of view, and I think he's correct.
The part where I disagree is I don't think he actually touches the agent.
I can't see it.
And there's actually a video from a woman inside the car, which is a new angle that came out today.
I don't see him touching the agent.
I see him that angle.
The camera moves away right.
Yeah, I understand that.
I just haven't seen one where I can conclusively say that he touches the agent.
So I have a Joe.
If you look on my page, I have a, I think it's one of the tweets I just made recently.
I do like an analysis and I'm looking at the video.
I watched the live stream YouTube, but I don't see it.
I don't see it the way you see it.
Look on my page.
It's like the discharge.
Yeah, the discharge, I can't tell.
It looks like.
Hold on, hold on, Joe.
Like, if you look at my tweet, I say case close, good shoot.
I break it down, and you can see at about the, let me see here.
I'll tell you what's second.
Pushes her.
Okay, right at right at 12 seconds.
He walks up to the agent.
Right at 12 seconds in the last video.
I'll give you the link right now.
I'm looking at it.
I'm looking at it.
Yeah.
And I did see a video that clearly shows the push.
And I bookmarked it.
So I'll find that and I'll post it to the state.
I have a quick question.
If he pushed, if he pushed the agent, everybody, real quick, real quick, just so everybody understands this.
All of you click on my Twitter profile and go to the first tweet I have where it says case closed, right?
If you open it up, right?
And you can mute me if you want, and I could give you guys the voice over here.
But the important thing is the video, right?
At about, so at seven seconds, you can see he's having, he's dealing with the subject, right?
Then at 12 seconds, Freddy gets involved and he gets in between the ice, sorry, the board of patrol agent and another woman as he pushes him.
As he gets involved, this is when the altercation happens.
So Preddy absolutely touched the board of patrol agent first and tried to get in between him shoving the woman.
That's very important.
Here's the thing, Mario.
Even if you're correct, like if he touched the ICE agent, completely get that.
In your day, because you, I forget what department you worked for, right?
But would you have like eight people from different agencies tackling a man down, which creates a lot of this confusion?
And then a gun is fired, which yeah, if I was that officer too, I would assume it's the person that's being apprehended that's shooting the gun.
That part I get.
But then whose fault is it?
And I know that the law protects the agent in that case, just like you said, completely get that.
But there's 13 other cases of people being shot that we haven't been shown.
Some of those are also American.
Why are we keep being shown these incidences where we can debate them and it could be seen?
You could understand why it could be seen the other way, right?
Where maybe he didn't touch them.
Hey, this weapon went off and it wasn't him that turned off the weapon and then he was killed.
This other woman was already in motion backing up her car and by their own mandate, they're not allowed to be in the front or the back of the car if the person is moving their car.
It's all these like debatable things.
And then today, for example, there's a new video that just came out like an hour ago of them.
They're making a U-turn and they wind up crashing into a car.
And then they arrest that woman and take her in.
And they crashed into her.
They weren't trying to stop her.
She wasn't like a subject of, she wasn't suspicious for being an immigrant or any of that.
They simply made a mistake and crashed into her.
They got pissed and then took her in.
Yeah.
And we keep seeing all the facts.
We don't know if she had been following them.
We don't know if she purposely got on the way and derailed them.
Like right now, dude, Minneapolis is crazy.
Like people are following the agents around.
They're obstructing them.
They're interfering.
And the biggest issue is that no one should be obstructing them.
But that's the problem is that they're doing it.
And then on top of that, the lawmakers, the Democrats in power, Waltz and Mayor Fry, et cetera, they're not utilizing or mobilizing the local law enforcement to help ICE.
So ICE not just has to do, ICE has to do two things.
They got to go out and arrest these people, do their operations, and they have to do crowd control, which is not something that they're trained to do.
That's something that the local police understand, but not necessarily ICE.
But since the local police don't want to get involved and do their part, this has been very negative.
And the other thing too, also that's important from a mental standpoint is since the since May, Frey and Walt are not mobilizing local law enforcement, that emboldens the citizens to feel like they're in the right and that these guys are not legitimate law enforcement.
So it's a very, it's a slippery slope here where local officials not mobilizing state and locals actually hurts everybody long term.
Yeah, I'm just look, to me, it's even beyond this, right?
It's, it's wire video.
I always look at algorithms, right?
Wire videos being throttled.
For example, the one where an ICE agent runs over a little kid's bike.
ICE & Militarization Concerns 00:15:25
He's like, I don't know how old he is.
He's not even 10 yet.
And they take him in, although he's right in front of his house.
And he's like, I'm American.
I can go get my ID.
And they're like, no, you can show it to us at the station.
And they run over his bike before they bring him down to the ground.
Well, he was put on the ground because the bike was ran over.
And we're seeing these things like the priest that got taken in, who's white.
And he's like, I'm American.
They kept him for a few days and then told him, oh, you're white anyway.
So you're no fun.
It was a few hours.
It was in a few days.
It was in a few days.
Jared, it was three days.
I thought it was a few hours.
That's what I commented.
So three days.
Go ahead.
Yeah, sorry.
So, Myron, there's a couple, a few super chats for you.
Some of them are a bit harsh, but the first one's from Adam.
It says five pound super chat.
Santino is the people's champ.
So shout out to you guys, Santino.
Joseph Cole says, shout out to Myron.
I'm a fellow locals member.
That's the two-pound super chat.
So he must be part of your community, Myron.
And then we've got one Cheeto.
And basically, I'm going to rephrase it because he said it in a more harsh way.
But he's saying that basically, I'm rephrasing it because obviously they said it in a much more meaner way.
But why is the Myrons basically supporting the Zionist government?
But then you criticize Jewish people.
It seems like some kind of contradiction.
Yeah, and this is where you start getting into low IQ individuals that just want to connect everything to Israel and Zionism.
The two are not analogous whatsoever.
Okay.
ICE is a law enforcement agency responsible for enforcing the Immigration Nationality Act, Title VIII.
The IDF is a military for the Israeli government that is occupying and killing innocent people for the purposes of land expansion.
The two are not the same whatsoever.
And this is why I get annoyed with a lot of these pro-Palestine people because they're fucking 50 IQ stupid retards.
And there's a significant difference between the two and they are not analogous whatsoever.
Okay.
Trust me.
ICE just wants to go into these cities and arrest the people and leave.
There's a reason why only a few cities are having all these problems.
ICE operates all across the country, but why are there all these problems in Minneapolis?
Because Minneapolis is a Democratic shithole that's always had a problem with law enforcement.
Whether we're going to talk about the Chauvin situation with George Floyd, Rene Good, or what's going on here, Minneapolis is a city in a state that's basically failed.
Okay.
Because we have elected officials that basically don't respect the authority of law enforcement and want to be more loyal to their constituents who tend to be foreigners, immigrants, and are even illegal aliens than rule of law.
So the idiot that's saying something like that about, oh, why are you supporting the Zionist government?
Bro, there's different parts of the government that don't have to do with Israel.
ICE doesn't have to do with Israel.
Like people are so dumb.
It's low IQ.
Can I ask you a question?
Can I ask Myron a question, Solomon?
Wait, one second.
Can I ask?
And this is why we have to be so, this is why we have to be sharp and like in our analysis, where we criticize the thing that's at hand and not try to link it to some other bullshit to try to make an argument.
Like notice how nobody's actually making an argument on the lawfulness of this shoe because I know I'm right.
I'm not here to debate morals.
I'm not here to debate whether it was right or wrong.
I'm here to say it was lawful.
Anybody want to push back on the lawfulness of Myron's point?
If you do, put your hand up because I wanted to make and ask a different question.
And that's why that person made that low IQ argument of, oh, these were the Zionists.
Like, dude, are you stupid?
I've lost more money talking about Israel than a lot of these people have made.
I've lost millions of dollars talking about this shit.
People are fucking low IQ.
Like, I've been talking about this before October 7th, before most of you idiots in the space were even aware.
Most Americans didn't even know what Zionism was when I was criticizing Israel back in the day before they did the genocide.
So here's another question.
Again, I'm going to rephrase some of them because people are a bit upset.
This one is, first of all, saying that what's your view on, obviously they didn't say like this.
I'm rephrasing it.
What's your view on ICE being trained by the IDF?
Well, here's the thing.
That's not true.
There might be some ICE officers that might go ahead and train with the IDF or whatever, but there is no component where you train with the IDF at the ICE Academy.
I went through it.
So we did not work.
We did not work with the IDF for Israelis whatsoever.
Okay, and another super chat is, bro, I'm so good at English.
I'm going to have to rephrase all this.
Anything American law enforcement nine out of ten times trains other people.
They don't train us.
We train them nine out of ten times.
So Oderon says, according to Myron's logic, it means the ICE person should then be charged with manslaughter.
I guess the person who's in the super chat, if you want to expand on that and illuminate, and then I can ask or basically put your position ahead why you believe it's man slaughter rather than murder.
Yeah, I'll just wait for them to say that.
Is there anybody who wants to push back on Myron in terms of the specific legality of what occurred?
Okay, so then okay, so one you do in terms of legality, not in terms of a different point.
Well, the legality that I would like to discuss is that, you know, ICE was created with the Department of Homeland Security after 9-11.
It was created as a function of the Department of Homeland Security based on national security.
Now, I know that all the individual ICE agents don't train with the IDF, but there is definite proof that the heads of the IDF have trained with the IDF.
The heads of ICE have trained with the IDF.
What I'm concerned about, not this particular case so much, but the utter militarization of the police and this ICE force, whose call is to mitigate the immigration problem, but now it's turned into a national police force with military capability, busting into homes without warrants, things like this.
So we're letting, you know, I think basically based on a sort of team sport mentality, we're letting the growth of a police state happen right before our eyes.
Whether this particular case was a good shoot or not, I'm not going to make that call.
I think it was personally, and I'm not an expert on this area.
I think it was pretty clear, but it was not.
But I won't argue with Myron on that.
What I'm going to talk about, what I'm asking is that why are we accepting the militarization of the police?
Not just ICE, but all of them.
And in fact, many police forces in the United States train with the IDF.
This is known.
This is a fact.
So, you know, do we really want to have this kind of immigration was handled and it's an administrative factor, As an administrative matter in the past until the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and ICE, it seems to me that ICE is a function of 9-11's mentality, and they have been trained to treat protesters like they're terrorists and things like that.
I agree that the city and the state, you know, Troy Frey and whatever his name is.
I don't know if it's Troy, but Jacob Frey.
Fry and the governor Waltz, they're crazy and they're actually, you know, they're antagonizing their own base to oppose ICE and cause havoc in the streets.
I think that's crazy as well.
But the premise here is that we needed to have these police off, these ICE agents running around as they're doing instead of discreetly removing people.
They make a big show and so forth.
They make a big show of force.
They don't get warrants for any busting into homes.
This is just over the top.
The Fourth Amendment is being violated regularly.
All right.
So it seems like your biggest grievance is the militarization of law enforcement.
Yes.
And it kind of, you know, they've actually got, you know, they've gotten equipment and arms from leftovers from the military.
This is the case.
So the militarization right now that we're seeing in Minneapolis is a direct response to the unruly behavior of the civilians, the, you know, Democrat, you know, liberal morons that are running around stalking law enforcement, stopping operations, impeding operations.
So the reason why they're militarized like this is because it's a direct response to keep law and order, right?
Typically, police have to go one step above the perpetrators to be able to subdue them.
Okay.
So that is why they're utilizing this more militarized approach.
And also, the state and local police are not assisting.
So since the state and local police are not assisting, ICE has to be far more aggressive in their enforcement operations to ensure that they're able to do their jobs effectively.
So it's not that they're militarizing just to militarize.
They're militarizing as a direct response to the pushback and the issues that they're getting and lack of support from the state officials.
That is why.
Now, as far as like the IDF goes, let's assume it's true that they've trained with the IDF before.
I could tell you guys right now, I spent seven months.
I went to the police academy with HSI as a special agent.
We did not train with the IDF not one time.
Okay.
Now, are there maybe potential some ICE officers that may have trained with the IDF before with a special training here or there at the academy?
Sure, but it is not in standard routine police academy training to go and work with the IDF.
But let's assume that was true that they did train with the IDF.
Who cares?
What does that have to do with the lawfulness of this shoot?
Like, that has nothing to do with anything.
And the reality is that...
I think it does matter who, whether they trained with the IDF.
Why does that matter?
What does that have to do?
What does that have to do with the legality of this shooting?
The IDF trains trains police under circumstances that they deem similar to Gaza.
They've trained them to treat all opposition as terrorism.
Oh my God.
Dude, no, that is no.
Like, the military, the military and law enforcement have completely different ways of engaging with threats.
Completely different.
I see what he's saying, though.
Can you guys put your hands up before you go?
Because I've got so much super chats where people want their statements right out.
So the first one is by Lebanese.
I appreciate you saying he says, Martin is right.
As a concealed carrier, you are held to a different standard.
And then I'll read the other one in a second, but we also got some, what's this one?
Legally, ICE can't enforce local law because they don't have jurisdiction.
They can only carry out immigration law.
They are overstepping.
I do want to hear your thoughts on that, Myron.
Also, we've heard just it's just been breaking news.
Greg Bovino has been relieved of his duties overseeing border patrol operations with ICE.
It says the following: it says, Greg Brovino, the Border Patrol commander of at-large operations, has been demoted from his post overseeing embeds with U.S. immigration and custom enforcement following an agent-involved shooting in Minneapolis over the weekend, according to six federal sources.
So, it does seem to suggest the head of customs and border patrol possibly either has been relieved completely of his duties or been removed away from the Minnesota operations.
Myron, what's your thoughts on that?
Um, this is typical.
I mean, people in high positions almost always you know move from position to position.
Whenever you become a high-ranking official with any government agency, uh, you know, you're gonna, you're not gonna be in that position for very long.
Like, you're not gonna see special agents in charge, commanders, you know, be in positions for a long time because they move around the agency.
So, um, I mean, it could be.
Well, Myron, I think you misheard what I think you misheard what Solomon was saying.
He was saying that it looks like he was moted.
Um, because I'm seeing a report here, and I just tagged Solomon and Myron.
Yeah, yes, it seems like he's either well.
Some reports are saying demoted, or some people are saying that he's been relieved of his duties, but it has got to do with this incident, Marin.
So, he isn't moving positions.
It seems like either he's being put as the fall guy, however you want to look at it, or whatever it is, but he's being also keep in mind that they're bringing in Tom Holman as well to oversee things.
So, look, people resign or get relieved of their position all the time, but that does not have to do with the legality of the shooting.
And here's the thing, right?
Like, everybody that keeps like trying to ask me about this, like, they bring up random stuff that has nothing to do with it.
Oh, they failed with the IDF.
Oh, it's a Zionist back organization.
Like, that's not what has to do with the topic at hand.
The topic at hand is, did this border patrol agent act in a justified manner against Alec Pritty given the facts and circumstances?
And according to the law, it's yes.
But as usual, a lot of these, you know, retarded progressives are getting mad that a shooting happened and trying to blame everything on Israel or blame on the IDF.
Like, even if, let's say this fucking guy did train with the IDF, what does that have to do with the out of this shooting?
This has nothing to do with that.
Absolutely nothing to do with that.
So, Myron, I think there's like a larger view.
And let me just put this to you.
And by the way, I mentioned this on the Tim Pool podcast.
I think they couldn't deal with this.
So they pulled the podcast afterwards.
Because obviously, I'd like destroyed all these right-wingers on this point.
But the point, the kind of the larger issue is this: that when you look at what's happening in terms of ICE and in terms of people on the left who disagree, I believe that there was definitely going to be, and I mentioned this, culminating in a situation where either an ICE agent was going to start killing people or kill people, or vice versa.
Some people were going to end up killing ICE agents.
And what happened after that was really important.
And what I mean by that is, if you look at the actions or interactions of the president of the United States, the vice president of the United States after the Renee Good shooting, and even now, that's caused major escalation.
They could have easily said, look, we're going to, look, this report would minimize the issue anyway.
But the point being, they could have quite easily have said, look, we're going to have an independent inquiry.
We don't want anyone to be harming ICE officers.
But we will look into it and we'll have an independent inquiry.
I think that would have de-escalated.
But it does look like these tensions are intentionally being escalated by people in power intentionally.
And so, yeah, of course, you can basically create many situations where ICE will shoot people.
But what's going to happen is when it's something so on the edge in the sense of something like this, all it'll do is inflame tensions.
And what it'll do is give kind of ICE more of a thing, a situation to shoot people and more people from the left to protest even more.
And all that happens is escalation.
And I do think that's an agenda point that they're trying to do.
So, I guess I'm putting that to you.
What's your thoughts on kind of that perspective?
By the way, I mentioned this on Timpool and they pulled the episode afterwards.
So, clearly, they don't want to hear like someone's opinion who's different to theirs.
So, what's your thoughts on that?
Well, I mean, look, law enforcement is always going to escalate to a level above whatever the resistance is.
That's just how it goes, right?
Christy Noam Challenges Local Laws 00:11:43
If you try to fight a cop, he's going to pull out a taser or a baton, right?
There's no such thing as fair fights when it comes to law enforcement.
They're always going to escalate.
And people also need to understand that law enforcement has no duty to retreat either.
So, they're going to, they're going to, a lot of times, they're going to stand their ground and just beat you, whether it's through numbers, using a weapon, using a tool, etc.
So, these protesters need to stop being idiots and understand that if you challenge a law enforcement official, you are opening yourself up to serious bodily harm and you need to stop being an idiot.
Like, it's not their job to ensure that they don't, uh, that they don't like whoop your ass in the process of getting you detained if you're going to actively resist them.
So, I tell people, look, you want to protest, you want to be out there recording?
Totally fine, but you also have to be cognizant of the fact that obviously Minneapolis is a very tense area.
Law enforcement is on high alert.
They're going to be, they're going to accept, they're going to tolerate way less bullshit from you.
And if they say, put your hands behind your back or they try to detain you, the worst thing you could do is resist, especially if you've got a gun on your person.
Like, this guy being a concealed carry owner should have known better.
Like, that's absolutely ridiculous that he thought it'd be appropriate to walk up to an agent and get in between him and another subject and think that everything is going to be okay.
He put it, he'll open himself up to this problem.
And this would all be avoided if people simply just didn't resist law enforcement.
Like, dude, I always tell people, don't fight law enforcement, fight in the courtroom.
Because if you try to fight law enforcement, you're going to lose.
You're always going to lose.
So, just take the detainment, take the arrest, whatever it is, go to jail, call your lawyer, don't say a goddamn thing, and fight it in court.
Don't fight it on the street.
Okay, we've got another question for you, Myron.
You know this from your experience.
It says legally, ICE can't enforce local laws because they don't have the jurisdiction, they can only carry out immigration law.
They are overstepping.
What's your thoughts on that?
Okay, what local laws are we talking about?
Because there's federal statutes that align too.
There's a federal statute that makes it a crime to impede federal law enforcement.
So, what does he mean?
Like, is he talking about state law?
Yeah, sure, they don't, but there are some federal statutes that might match it that they can use.
Okay, Jarry, did you have a question for Myron?
Yeah, Myron, I, yeah, yeah.
Solomon asked the second question, and I think the question, I don't know.
All right, so so, um, first of all, yeah, you're right.
Some obviously, it's very common practice for them to reshuffle around, you know, people part of the administrative state of U.S. customs and border and ICE.
So, CNN has just reported in the last few minutes that Gregory Bonvino has been locked out of his social media accounts because over the last 24 hours, he has been responding to people.
So, he's been locked out of his account at this hour because he's been responding to people.
That's CNN and Fox News reporting that in the last few minutes.
So, I mean, my question would be to you is what do you think?
You think they're giving Gregory Bonvino a punishment?
Or because I'm seeing a lot of people are saying that the administration should be even going deeper, but it seems like that they are trying to play the calm mode for a little bit.
What do you think?
I don't know.
I mean, people resign or get removed from positions all the time.
It might not necessarily mean that they're doing a horrible job.
It might mean that, hey, we just know that someone better that we could put in that position.
We're going to move you over here.
So, you know, there's personnel changes in the government all the time, very common, especially when you're a higher-tier government official.
They move you around like chess pieces.
So I don't know what it is.
It could be for any reason.
But yeah, or it could have been him even resigning, saying, I'm tired of this shit, right?
He's been getting harassed, death threats.
You know, he's got to walk around with a full-on security detail everywhere he goes.
It could be him wanting to resign.
So it could be for anything.
Yeah, that's a fair point.
And my last question would just be: so you said a few moments ago, and you said that, you know, you waited.
And I just looked at your page and you were right.
You waited to obviously put your opinion on this second controversial shooting in Minnesota.
But I think what Solomon was trying to say is why the rush judgment of Christy Noam.
And for example, Christy Noam came out.
I think she was at the airport or something, flying back home or something.
She came out a few hours later and said that Alex was a domestic terrorist.
Now, Myron, I know you know it's very common for these officials, whether they're in state, local, or federal, to obviously wait before saying someone is a domestic terrorist.
What do you, why did she say that?
I think that's why people are protesting, right?
People are still upset, but for Christy Noam to come out a few hours later and say that he was a domestic terrorist and he tried to massacre law enforcement, that's the word she used.
You, you, you and her, like, what do you make of that?
I mean, Christy Noam's a retard.
I've been vocal about this for a while.
Yeah, and she's loves to kill pets as well.
Another super chat, Myron.
And I want to read this because although I text you, I want to respond with myself.
It says, It says, what do you call it again?
Myron's credibility isn't the gutter.
He sounds as unlettered as Officer Tatum now, who agrees.
Now, look, I find these things ridiculous because you know what annoys me more than anything else that we know over the last three years, you've given up millions of dollars.
I've given up millions of dollars.
And what people want is, despite that, they would never do it.
Most of these people are anonymous accounts.
Most of these people are not willing to risk anything.
Most people are not willing to risk their financial situation and definitely not their own jobs or careers or their own households.
And yet, we do that.
And yet, they want blind conformity on every issue.
And so, like, obviously, on this issue, they're more amiable to my position, but there have been other issues in the past where they've basically, just because I've disagreed slightly with their opinion, they basically believe that you've basically got the call, even though they would not dare to have any do even a manuscript of what we've done financially or in any other way.
But give us, give it, I do.
Yeah, I mean, you know, this is this is what they say when they don't have anything to challenge my argument.
Notice how everyone that's come up has said some stupid shit about the IDF or, you know, you know, you got to call some other.
It's like, bruh, you can't challenge what I'm saying because I, what I'm saying is correct.
This was a lawful shooting.
Now, if you want to have a discussion on the, you know, ethics of it or the morality, that's another conversation.
But my point here is to say that this is going to end up becoming a justified shooting based on the facts and circumstances known to the Border Patrol agent before.
Also, another thing that I find extremely interesting is that a lot of these people that Monday morning quarterback and criticize my analysis of this stuff don't understand use of force, have never been in law enforcement, have been in the military, don't understand how weapons work or guns work, never shot a gun, and they're trying to give their stupid ass fucking take on this.
So, quite frankly, I don't want to make the appeal to authority argument, but it does have a lot of credence when it comes to situations like this because these people simply don't understand the Second Amendment and use of force protocol in the United States.
So, they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
These are people that if they're when they're at Starbucks getting their fucking, you know, faggot chino, uh, if someone calls their name, hey, Tom, they fucking jump up, like, oh, God, oh, somebody called my name.
Okay, I'll get my latte.
It's like these dudes have never had confrontation nine out of 10 times that are arguing about this.
So it's just ridiculous to me that they feel as though their opinion or their take matters when they're not analyzing the situation properly the way it's going to be analyzed legally.
They can never attack my arguments.
They just got to go ahead and say some other bullshit.
And as far as like the other stuff, yeah, I mean, a lot of these people must be new here.
Like I literally just got banned from every club in Miami for being critical of Israel.
Like I literally just got banned from every fucking hospitality location, et cetera, in this city for that purpose.
Like, so for the people that are sitting there trying to question where I stand, like, shut the fuck up.
I've lost more money than you've made.
Yeah.
And look, and by the way, you've seen it.
I've asked you questions.
I've literally allowed people to ask you questions.
I want people to push back on you about the lawful use of the gun.
Because if there's a stronger position, I want you to be debunked, right?
Because I have a different opinion to you.
But up to now, now everyone, after having two days of space, there's nobody's pushing back on you on that issue.
It's kind of annoying me.
Solomon, because look, I wanted you to push back on Myron, but you can't say that.
Yeah, you kind of agree with him.
On the legality, you can't push back.
There's officers.
They scream gun.
That officer here's a gun.
He has like the law protects the officer here.
So he's right on the legality.
What's what I'm questioning is not the legality.
It's the why are there so many people on one person?
Why does this not look trained?
Why are there multiple agency people on him?
This is going to create confusion.
This just shows to me, it just shows how messed up ICE is at the moment that they're bringing in American citizens, that the highest number of detainees have been killed, have died during detention for higher than the past 40 years.
I just see a and then you see throttling of certain videos and other videos don't, which aren't arguable of what they did.
Like I guarantee you, this woman that just got hit by ICE when they made a U-turn and then she got arrested.
I guarantee you, no one's going to see that video.
It's not going to throttle.
Why?
Because it's obviously ICE's fault.
And that's not going to get throttled because that's not going to create division.
And I feel like I honestly, like all my instincts are telling me everything that we're seeing is being throttled so that we fucking argue with each other and don't point the finger.
Stop asking about Epstein.
Stop asking about Israel.
Go focus on this and go fight amongst yourself before you point the finger at me.
That's what it feels like to me.
Right.
So I can't argue the legality because he's right.
But that's the point.
So like my point is this: now every you're saying, and I think you were one of the chief proponents against the actions of the ICE guy.
You're saying, oh, guess what?
I agree with Myron.
It was illegal.
And so if there are, if there is anybody on the super chat, ask it.
Give us a reason why you think that Myron's wrong on the legality.
I will ask him the question.
Someone just posted and said, it's definitely manslaughter.
But then I've asked him, I said, why?
Explain why you think it's manslaughter and I can ask the question.
But again, people are just being very vague.
And I don't like vagueness.
I want people to disagree with you, Myron.
Why don't they just come up and speak then instead of sending you messages?
Like, why don't they just come up and speak and defend their retarded point?
Yeah, if you want to come up as well, guys, do a request.
And you've got a question on Myron.
I'll bring you up.
But if it's, yeah, so if you've got a question, put it in the comments in either the X or the YouTube and I'll bring you up.
Someone said that this is a Palestinian.
He said, I appreciate Marion speaking on behalf of Palestine, but you got kicked out of the clubs for glorifying Nazis, not for being pro-Palestine, is what this guy said.
But okay, let me is it.
This is why a lot of these pro-Palestine people are just fucking 50 IQ idiots, dude.
Beatrix, you got a question?
I do, yeah.
Hi, Myron.
I obviously on the legality aside from all the angles I've seen on the video, I think even leading up to his shooting, everything was questionable, pushing those women behaving like thugs.
But I know that you come at it from a more objective standard.
Aftermath Investigations 00:07:35
So that aside, when these events happen, when these shootings occur, leaving aside like the ICE agents, the responsibility they had and what they undertook.
Do you find that the way that it's handled in the aftermath is really inflammatory in terms of from leading figures, the government, these ladies that come on the podium, the Pambonies and stuff, where initially the very first thing, I just feel this.
They should be saying, look, you know, somebody was killed today and our condolences to the families and the loved ones.
And we are going to have an inquiry and we'd like to ask for restraint and calm while we investigate this.
But what they do is within the minute that it happens, they go up, put a full defense out, say he was a domestic terrorist, inflammatory language.
And I feel that's really deliberate.
And I just think that, and they didn't even take the ICE officer off duty.
This is what I heard.
And maybe you can clarify if this is true or not.
But from across sources, I was hearing that he remained on duty until the next day.
And surely that's not good for his own mental well-being as well as for the reassurance of the public.
So what's your thoughts on in terms of process and procedure that governments kind of deal with the fallout of this?
Well, you know, there's there anytime that you get involved in a shooting, there's going to be an investigation open and they're going to take the gun and they're going to, you know, probably put you on light duty or, you know, quickly take you off of, you know, duty after the fact.
We don't know what the manpower requirements are.
They probably need every single person they can get.
So they're going to probably, you know, try to get this resolved as quickly as possible.
But yeah, I mean, that's just standard procedure as far as like you get involved in a shooting, there's going to be 100% at least an internal investigation and then more than likely probably an external investigation by the state and locals as well.
But in this case, I don't know if they'll be able to do anything because of the supremacy clause because he was acting within the scope of his duties doing an enforcement operation.
Let's go to Ocal.
Okal, have you got a question?
Okay, let's go to Kami.
Kami, you've got a question?
I can't hear him.
Can he...
I just want to point out that the agent who fired the shot at Peddy, Predi, whatever his name is, Predty Boy, whatever he was.
He has not been taken off of duty.
He is operating without, there has been no nothing done to him at all.
He's still operating as an agent without any consequence so far.
Let me go to Jarrah Jari.
You said you got a legal question?
Yeah, but they're still not.
They're 100%.
Yeah, hold on, Byron.
What did you think about?
Yeah, what did you think about that question first from him?
You didn't answer that.
I mean, it happens.
Yeah, like that's 100%.
That's based on his chain of command.
They can choose to take him off of duty or, hey, we'll keep you on duty, but we're going to do an investigation on the side.
That's really the last 15 minutes, but like it's whether it's state, local, it's very nine times out of 10 when an officer shoots his gun, right?
Just shoots his gun, let alone the other person on the end of the bullet dies, they're usually taken off their, they're usually taken off their duty.
So, I mean, I think that's also, again, like the protesters are not there just because someone died, right?
They're there because they say procedures are not being followed.
Another question I have for you.
Someone just texted me.
Someone just sent me a message.
Hold on, Jared.
Hold on.
Every agency is different.
Every agency is going to investigate shootings differently.
It's always a case-by-case situation.
Now, if this was a very blatantly bad shoot and it was like really bad, more than likely, they probably would have taken him off and put him on death duty or tell him, hey, you're on administrative leave.
But since this shoot is more than likely going to be justified, they're like, you know what?
We're going to take your gun.
We're going to investigate.
You're still working, though.
So it's a case-by-case, agency-by-agency basis.
Absolutely not.
No.
What the fuck are you going to tell me?
I just respectfully disagree.
It doesn't matter whether you agree or not because you've never been in law enforcement.
telling you every single law person has a different protocol and a different standard i think you're right to say legally legally to say that you could make this argument just right um whether or not let me be explicitly clear about this Quite frankly, I don't care if you agree or not.
I'm telling you how different law enforcement agencies work.
Policy versus the law and use of force situations change based on agency, chain of command, requirements of the agency at the time, manpower, et cetera.
All of these different factors account for how they're going to deal with staff during the course of a shooting investigation.
So we don't know because every agency is different.
It's case by case.
So it's not every single time someone gets in a shooting, they're going to be taken off of duty, dude.
I'm telling you that it varies.
All right.
So another question.
Someone just sent me this.
So you have Minnesota state officials suing ICE right now.
There's a lawsuit pending.
I think there's going to be a hearing tomorrow morning.
It's a hearing on whether or not this was being banned after this shooting, shortly after the shooting happened.
Minnesota, Minneapolis Police Department officers could not get close to the scene of the shooting.
They were keeping them far away.
So what do you make of that?
A lot of people are making the case.
They're trying to hide the evidence from the state and local law enforcement.
You're cutting off on my end.
I don't know if it just me or are you guys hearing him cut off?
Yeah, he's echoing quite bad.
Yeah, I didn't really get the question.
He said something about hiding.
Can you guys hear me now?
I think.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, so my question was, so there's a lawsuit active pending right now.
Shortly after the shooting, it was reported that many department officers could not get close to the scene of the shooting.
They were, you know, they were not kept up to date on what was happening, evidence.
Are you going to say that's common as well?
And why does a state have to sue the feds just so that they can get evidence of the shooting?
Well, the protesters, the protesters have been blocking off a bunch of places in the city.
So that's another reason, too.
Why, like, for example, there was a hotel last night that they were rioting at and like making a bunch of noise.
And before they went over there to riot at this hotel that they think ICE agents were at, they ended up like blocking off the street so that police can't come in and respond.
So the protesters are not.
We're not talking about protesters.
We're talking about police officers.
You told me about why is the street blocked off?
And I told you, well, we don't know.
No, no, that's not what they said.
No, that's not what they said.
I said the feds, such as ICE, is not letting the state of Minnesota had to sue yesterday in order to get evidence from the scene of the shooting.
Why is Renee good or for this case?
For this case, why aren't they not letting Minneapolis Police Department off they not even keeping them in the loop of what has happened?
More than likely, probably because of supremacy clause, because they're going to look at it like, well, he was acting within the confinements of his duty and there was a use of force incident.
So we're not, they don't have, they don't have to feel the obligation to turn anything over for them for state prosecution.
Scenario: ICE and Protesters 00:08:15
That's more than likely why.
I'm just estimating, though.
Not sure exactly what their reasoning is, but I'm sure it probably has to do something with that.
So, when you were in the shop, okay.
Uh, we got a another super chat says, No one is mentioning this point.
Brackets, I agree with Myron.
The guy who got shot should have declared he had a weapon on him and they had and that he had a permit before engaging and interfering with the officers.
I mean, we had this discussion yesterday, though.
I said that if he was to say, I've got a weapon, do you not think that he'd get shot as well?
Because they'd be like threatening with a weapon.
What's your thoughts about Myron?
Uh, he should have just never touched the ice agent, the uh board of show agent.
That was his biggest fuck up.
You know, but Myron, just on that, like, um, I get what you're saying, but in that scenario, isn't your natural instinct to like move your hand out just to help someone?
Like, if someone throwing a kid, my natural reaction would be to just put my hand out to save that kid to stop him from falling.
So, you would put your hand out to try and say, Would is that not what your thoughts on that?
I mean, he walked up to the guy and tried to interfere as he was dealing with the woman, and that was a big mistake.
Cool, yeah, makes sense.
Let's go to uh white monster.
Go ahead, white monster.
You got a question?
Yeah, hey, can you guys hear me?
All right, yeah, loud and thanks, Solomon.
Uh, yeah, question from Myron regarding uh Pam Bond strongly letter to Tim Walz that she announced on Fox the other day or something like that.
Uh, do you think that the administration uh in negotiations with the Minnesota uh government?
Uh, do you think was part of that?
Uh, those negotiations or that compromise and follow-up question: uh, why is Nick Fuentes the realest nigger alive?
Thank you.
I missed the part of your question there, bro.
You're cutting off when you asked me about Pam Bondi.
You said Pam Bondi, what yeah, Pam Bondi.
I think his second, his second question, he's um, do you think that um uh I think your buddy uh Nick Fuentes is the real quote-unquote nigger alive?
That was his second question.
That wasn't his first question, yeah.
I couldn't hear the first one.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't hear his first question either.
So, go ahead and so, uh, do you think that uh the Trump administration in compromising with the minister?
I'll uh I'll put I'll I'll send it to Suleiman.
Yeah, send it to me.
I lost the question.
Um, let's go to Tyler.
Tyler, jump in.
What's your question?
Hey, can you hear me?
Yeah, loud and clear.
Hey, guys, perfect.
Name is Tyler Dykes.
I'm a patriot.
I'm running for Congress in CD1 in the low country area of South Carolina.
And I, for one, am incredibly frustrated by the lack of actual actionable action on this by the Trump administration.
When I was arrested for January 6th, they hunted me down.
They hunted down my friends and family.
They immediately they went after everybody I knew and then the people who knew the people that I knew.
And so throughout all of this, they also identified me based on the corner of my eye using facial recognition software.
And so the real question is, why aren't they going out and arresting these people that are actually attacking these agents that are out there in the field?
The AI technology four years ago is absolutely better now.
So they can easily be sending the feds clearing out these people and actually helping ICE to do their job.
And so quite unfortunately, I have to agree with Nick Funtes here.
It's like there's just a lot of performative action going on right now to try to get the base not actually a lot of.
Would you agree?
Well, if people weren't, you know, protesting and being idiots, a lot of this stuff wouldn't be happening.
I mean, it's interesting how immigration enforcement is happening fine in other places, but you know, here in Minneapolis, it's been such an issue.
So, Myron, the gripe, he said that do you think that the Trump administration compromised with Tim Waltz admin, and part of the compromise was that Bovino was let go, and so they had some kind of deal.
And he did say, he did put a tweet out today from saying that the conversation with Tim Waltz went well.
What's your thoughts on that?
Do you think that that was part of some kind of agreement that they had?
I think it's just politicians being politicians, man.
Like behind the scenes, all these guys get along with each other, but they kind of put a front that they hate each other publicly.
But, you know, I think absolutely Tim Waltz and Jacob Frey aren't really doing enough to help out in this situation.
They're not mobilizing the state and local law enforcement enough to actually assist with crowd control here, which is why we have so many of the problems that we have.
Okay, Joe.
I'm sorry.
I don't have that's part of it.
I don't have hosts.
Let's humano scope.
I think that's what I was going to say is part of the problem, Myron.
Bovino, there was a case where Bovino over a barrier, then tackled a protester.
He wasn't doing anything, tackled him, and then arrested him.
And that was done in front of the judge.
In front of the judge, he's like, did you hop the barrier?
He's like, no.
Did you tackle him?
No.
And you can see it on the video that he did it.
Right.
So the judges come out and be like, he's actually just straight up lying about his aggression.
People under him are repeating these actions.
Like, why was that woman pushed to begin with?
Right?
We don't know, but more than likely, more than likely, they were probably interfering.
That's probably why.
We have video of them before.
They weren't interfering, though.
Well, do we know?
Here's the thing.
We don't know exactly what was going on at the time.
Right.
But can an ICE or Border Patrol go up to press the protesters and start pushing them around?
If they're not interfering, if they're interfering, yeah, they're going to do that.
Yeah.
But if they're not.
Because we have Bovino on video of no one interfering and him tackling the guy to the ground.
And going over, and the guy was behind a barrier.
Well, over the barrier to go tackle the guy.
Again, we don't know what's going on, what they're trying to do at the time that they pushed him or tackled them.
So, you know, that's the thing is that we're not operating here with all the facts in mind and we don't know why they were involved in that altercation.
But what we do know is he was engaging with two people and this guy pretty walked up, put his hand on him, and that's where things obviously took a turn for the worse.
I mean, Myron, I think I don't see him putting the hand on her.
You're an apologist for the police, right?
No matter what.
I think he actually jumped back and straight and screamed a command at him.
I think he actually stepped back and screamed a command on him.
I can't get conclusive that he actually put his hands on, but still, my question simply is: just to stick to the question, can ICE run up to protesters if they're not impeding?
Is that legal?
And if that leads to a death, who's responsible?
Well, I think if they're I just want to know, let's not even take this case, Myron.
Like, don't even think about what just happened.
Just this particular scenario.
Protesters aren't doing anything.
They're just filming ICE.
Yeah, if they're just filming and they're not getting in the way, then it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
I mean, the right to be, right to see, right?
If they're just there filming and they're not, you know, interfering with the operation, no, they're not going to do anything.
Right.
So if that guy winds up dead because they do push him, then the ICE officer is the one responsible or no, because he had a gun and then yeah, he lost all leverage and forfeited all of his, I guess, power as soon as he touched the agent while he was engaged with someone else.
I just got another nine oh God, a few super chats.
Echo Chambers Need Stronger Arguments 00:04:15
One against me and one against you, Myron.
So one says, Suleiman, very bad take that you assume the officer would not act professionally if the guy declared he had a gun and had a permit.
Most officers are dealing with people with permits.
Yeah, I disagree.
If you look at very minor things that were like he touched and he touched the officer, he did this and that was enough to get assassinated.
If a guy says six ICE officers coming towards him and he says, I've got a gun, they're going to blow his brains out.
Like, we don't know as a matter of fact, but just based on the way things are, yes, they would.
So if I would have like, I've got a gun, I've got a gun because I think it's a high likelihood they'd probably blow my brains out.
So yeah, I do think that I'm right on that issue.
Myron, a question, someone, this one about you.
Myron makes the pro-Palestinian community look bad.
I won't claim this guy.
Obviously, they're upset with you as well.
Don't care.
From a different perspective.
Let's go to Beatrix.
Beatrice, you got a question?
I think what I asked you earlier, Myron, I think it was a two-part question.
You answered one part of it.
The second part of it was, do you think that they could handle it a bit more sensitively in the aftermath?
Because that's what's really got everybody up in arms.
My whole timeline is versus, you know, left versus right, Dems versus really angry about this from every side.
I think that the people that are elected to be in power in leadership have an obligation and a duty to calm it down, to take care of it, to reassure people, because whether people are left or right, they're still their electorate, you know?
And I just see that failing.
And I've seen it in our government here as well before.
What are your thoughts?
You cut off there.
She's not cutting out for me.
So she might have to go re-aster a question because I heard her fine.
All right, let me refresh my page and leave and come back.
I'll be back.
All right.
Hold on, chat.
All right, give me one sec, Chad.
I'm right, guys.
We got a money Monday coming up.
Let me try joining back in here.
Let me just delete.
One guy's crying about me hosting a space about this.
So while you're on my chat, I'm literally going to block you.
So you're not on the YouTube chat anymore.
They're just haters, Solomon.
One guy, no, one guy is saying that why aren't you pushing back on Myron?
The thing is, like, listen, one of my rules is I have certain rules.
I don't debate my friends.
I don't debate Christians in like a Christian Muslim debate.
And I don't debate sectarian issues within Islam.
Like, those are the things that I tried to stay away from debating.
Sometimes I may fall in the trap, but generally I don't do those debates.
But what I do do, what I have done is I've brought people up who disagree with Myron to ask questions and to push back.
If it wasn't that you've seen it, you've had so many people ask them questions.
Most people just end up agreeing with him.
So what can I do if there's not enough, good enough person who can push back on him?
That's not my problem.
Like you guys need to have stronger arguments so you can push back on him.
But in reality, I don't debate, I don't debate my friends.
Like I would, this is why I wouldn't push back on Myron.
This is not what I do.
I think it's low-class behavior and it lacks integrity.
If you don't like it, you don't like it.
But what I have done is Joe has been brought up to disagree.
Jared has.
Many people on this space have been brought up to disagree and they can disagree and they have disagreed.
And Myron's kind of portrayed a strong argument.
Don't agree with Myron's position, but to be honest, like no one's pushing back well enough.
It's not my fault, y'all want to being so excited about echo chambers that you're not being able to formulate a strong enough argument.
Like, you know, you've got the ability to push back.
Anyone who's requesting, I'm literally bringing them up.
Anyone who puts a super chat in the YouTube, I'm literally reading the super chat.
Obviously, if someone's swearing in the Uber chat, I'll rephrase it, but I'm literally asking the same question in the super chat.
So, all I'm gonna say is, don't cry, make stronger arguments.
Maybe this is linked to the point I said earlier in the space that y'all cry for your echo chambers.
Maybe if you didn't cry for them, you would have stronger arguments.
Uh, another $4.99 super chat from uh Frank Jabba says, If Solomon was throwing the Nazi suit, I would distance myself from him.
Don't lie, public, you wouldn't.
Let's not try that, bruv.
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Um, anyway, um, that's that.
Okay, let me bring some more people up.
Ah, bro, people solemn.
Look, look, here's no, I don't who should I bring up against Myron?
I thought Joe as sub-zero.
Bring him up, he's gonna finish him.
I didn't have anything to do with Myron pulling him two sides.
Joe already said, Joe already said that he thought it was illegal.
He's just Jared.
One second.
I want the audience to hear two sides.
Joe, yeah, look from Mayan's perspective.
What he's saying is this guy touched the officer.
I still can't.
And Manco keeps sending me clips, and I keep looking.
It looks like the officer actually pushed himself off of the guy, not the other way around.
That's why I keep trying to get to the point where if an ICE officer goes and approaches someone who's just filming and he did not touch the officer, who's responsible for that death?
That's what I'm trying to get to.
Because if what Myron saw, which is the guy touched the ICE officer and then he tackled him, then he had a gun and the gun went off.
Then, yes, legal.
If the guy never touched him and the ice officer approach or are going after him, being aggressive towards people simply filming, which is the way I see it, and I keep replaying the clip over and over and over.
And now I can see that the ice officer puts his hand up on the guy's chest, pushes off of him, and then starts pepper spraying him.
When the guy pushes back, he's not being pushed, he's not being pushed back, he's actually pushing himself back off the guy's chest, right?
So I'm just seeing it a completely different way.
And if that's the case, I think Myron would agree that then that's an illegal shoot.
So, but we're seeing two different things.
Uh, uh, Myron's position that he moved towards the ice agent and then pushed his arm out.
That bit you agree with, right?
No, I don't look.
I've played it over and over.
I don't see him moving his arm.
I see him turning around after the girl gets the girl gets pushed.
The ice officer puts his arm on the guy's chest, pushes like I think he pushed an immovable wall because the guy doesn't even move back, but he's like twice the size.
He pushes back off him, steps back, and grabs the bear spray.
That's what I see.
I don't see any conclusive evidence that the guy put his hand on it, but there is one clip where he has his hand, which looks like it could be on him, but it also could be beside him because you can't tell.
But what looks from one video to be a push on the officer, you can see from the other video that's not the case.
It's actually the officer pushing himself away from the guy by pushing on the guy's chest that winded up.
I'm looking at what you posted, Joe.
That's at 13 seconds.
Myron, if I remember right, said at 12 seconds, or have we got an image from 12 seconds?
Let me look at his page at 12 seconds.
Yeah, you can see it, and you cannot tell if that are if that guy's arm is on the officer or to the left of the officer.
Okay, I'm just looking at the video that Myron posted.
And look at and solemn, look at the office.
Look at the ice officer's hand going on the protester's chest and him pushing himself off of him.
And this is where this argument comes: whether who's responsible is it all hinges on this, I think.
And that's what I'm trying to get to.
Does it actually hinge on this or not?
No, but look, I'm looking at this video.
Um, and by the way, I don't have the same opinion as Myron, but just I'm looking at this video because I think that that's like crazy that he got shot for that as well.
But um, at 10 seconds, you know, if you look at the video, 10 seconds, um, Joe, so 10 seconds, he's holding the other woman, and then 10 point almost 10 seconds in 11 seconds.
Hold on, let me go, let me go back.
I'm looking at Myron's video, right?
The one he posted.
Oh, okay, then let me go look at Myron's because there's one that's I think better.
Hold on, I'll go look at Myron's.
One second, yeah.
I mean, in Myron's video, it does look like he's moving towards the officer.
Yeah, but look at him.
He keeps he does like a 360, though.
If you look at Myron's video and keep watching, the guy doesn't stop in front of the officer, he does like a 360.
What do you mean by 360?
He like spins around.
So, he's in the one I'm looking at in Myron's video.
At 10 seconds, he's holding the other woman, and then at 11 seconds, he moves from the first woman and goes towards the altercation between the ICE officer and the other woman.
So, he moves towards him with his hand out, right?
You agree with that?
Yes, that I agree.
He moves towards him with his hand out because the woman just got is about to get pushed.
And then at 14 seconds, actually, that's after your one.
It looks like he's got his hand on the officer, but then you're but yours is a different video, isn't it?
Uh, where's the yeah, it's a different angle?
Yeah, where's your video?
The original here, I can give you the link.
Hold on, it's the one Manco shared.
Um, hold on, by the way, who's ever saying that I shared an image that's not AI?
I never did that.
This image of him getting someone else just posted a video in the comments, by the way.
All right, guys, I'm refreshing my page.
We got the money Monday coming up, guys.
Roger just got here, so uh, so we are gonna do that soon.
I'm just waiting for fresh.
Let me read some chats while we're here.
Okay, okay, we got here.
Um, we got Sam Porter says, Hey, Myron, I understand your motivation to rejoin ICE.
Is it worth it?
Do you believe our leaders are doing their best for that risk?
Well, look, man, we got a whole we got a national problem at this point.
Uh, sorry for the Bible I type.
Thanks again.
Yeah, nigga did that type of Bible.
Upon reviewing my driver's license today, I was asked status in the country.
Been a citizen about six years now, and is perplexed.
That wasn't reflected on the license, even though I got the one after being a citizen.
The reason why is because driver's license doesn't confirm your actual um immigration status.
Okay, um, they can debunk you.
Should Minneapolis be held with some responsibility for that?
Not just handling over the criminals and encouraging civil arrest.
Yep, absolutely.
Uh, HT is funny.
Uh, that Jared dude is scared of Myra Caudima.
Yeah, uh, as the group continues and the influence increases and the power rises, so does the enemy's vehement tirade against the true W Myron L. Wimps boots on X 2026.
Appreciate you, bro.
Fortrain says, We can't blame Jays for the open borders, then go and blame them for deportations.
Uh, that guy is lying.
The video with the lady crashing, she sped up and then she crashed into them.
These leftists are so disingenuous.
Yeah, she was impeding.
Uh, first, I thought the shoot was unlawful until I saw your stream explaining it.
My question is: uh, can they make an argument that it is unlawful due to the person having his back?
There were multiple shots, and an ICE agent said, uh, boohoo after the shot.
I don't know if they said boohoo, but um, yeah, but the point is that he was armed, bro.
The pride you take in your previous work in law enforcement is aspiring.
Appreciate you.
Uh, did you see Asian dolls doing taxes now?
No way.
Give me a link.
How the mighty have fallen, bro.
I'm telling you, man, all my ops are cooked.
All my ops are cooked, bro.
They've just been talking about me, and they're losers.
All right, let's jump back in here.
Um, and then we are gonna start uh, Fresh of Fit Money Mondays here very soon.
That it's I'm looking at this.
Is Nick's uh video, right?
Uh, it's on Manco posted it, but it's someone else.
Yeah, Nick, it's on Nick's video where he says Nick is trying to point as he's resisting a respite.
Now, if you actually look at 13 seconds, even in this video, he touches the officer first, bro.
How do you see that?
Look at his hand.
Look, he reaches out for the woman.
So, look, look, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what I'm saying.
At 12 seconds, I'll tell you what I'm seeing.
So, he gets he's got his right hand out.
The officer pushes the woman really hard.
He right before he touches her, no, no, but when he after he pushes her, his left hand is uh basically in front of the officer.
So, I don't know if he pushes the officer, but behind him, behind him, no, no, no.
The um, so so I'm looking at it, but basically, his left hand literally gets in between him and the woman.
Ah, I get what you're saying.
You're trying to say that he uses his left hand to get between the officer and the woman, but he doesn't actually push the officer.
Is your argument, right?
Right.
But if you continue the clip, you see that the officer actually pushes himself off of him, not the other way around, right?
Which is what people are saying.
Well, look, you can see that he pushed him, not from this angle.
You can see that the officer actually pushed himself off of him.
I get your argument.
I get your argument.
So, Marin, what's your thoughts on what Joe is saying?
Joe is saying that let's go with the hypothetical because it's kind of either way.
If he didn't push the ICE officer, he put his hands in between the ICE officer and the woman, but doesn't actually push him.
Does that still count as violence and enough reason to do what happened, Marin?
Yeah, I mean, he's impeding him as he's dealing with the woman.
So, and remember, he doesn't know this guy, Alex Pretty.
He doesn't know if he's a danger to him or anybody else.
Like, when you're law enforcement, some random person coming up to you and just trying to get in between and a man, by the way, uh, trying to get in between you and another person, you're gonna take that as a threat, right?
So, um, so that's that's kind of that's what happened.
This is why it's so important, guys.
Like, mind your business, don't get involved in stuff.
Uh, because next thing you know, you could be getting pepper sprayed and then something is escalating, and then it comes out of your control.
So, you just basically told people, aka don't protest.
I mean, I think that's pretty woeful ignorance on your part.
Did you how did you come to the conclusion?
Don't get involved, absolutely get involved if you disagree with something.
I think it's incumbent upon you protesting, protesting.
See, this is what I, bro.
What are you?
50 IQ protesting.
So, so protesting doesn't while like peacefully protesting something politically is not the same as getting in between a law enforcement official and a subject that they're dealing with.
Those are not the same whatsoever.
And the fact that you're trying to come to that conclusion is absolutely nuts.
Completely different.
Let's go to Adam.
Yeah, so I can respond.
Jared, Jared, one second, that's a few other people.
That was a low IQ argument.
Okay, let's go.
Let's go to Adam.
Adam, you got a question?
Yeah, sure.
So, um, you know, he's he's stood in between Ice and the and the woman, and she got pushed down in front of him.
Um, you can call that assault if you want.
I don't think that was assault.
I think he just stood in between them two, and then they pulled him off of the they pulled him off the woman, they pulled him off of her, and then um, one you can see one uh agent disarms him, and then they shoot him in the back repeatedly after he's been disarmed.
I don't see how that can be justified.
I already explained this earlier in great detail.
I must miss that.
I must miss that.
But yeah, this doesn't seem.
So what was the justification?
Well, you can listen to the back of the space guy.
We've been through it.
Okay, it's recorded, isn't it?
Yeah.
And we're live streaming on YouTube as well.
So you can listen to him back on board.
Cool, cool.
So, yeah, so that's just my opinion then.
So my opinion is just like they disarmed him.
So I don't think it's justified, justified to shoot him like multiple times in the back.
Yeah, so I just, I don't think that was fair because he was there just filming.
He was minding his own business.
He wasn't there to interfere with law enforcement.
It was only when the woman got pushed down, you know, with two arms pushed down on the ice in front of him that he just left her defense.
And that is interfering in law enforcement right there.
That is interfering.
Done.
I don't know if it's if it's if it warrants like 10 guys jumping on him and bear spraying him straight away.
I feel like they weren't trained well enough.
Like that they just escalated that way above where it needed to be escalated.
Like he wasn't, he wasn't fighting with, he wasn't fighting with ICE.
Like they, they, he put, he put himself between them, and that was, and he was facing a weight.
Here's the thing.
You already lost.
As soon as he put himself in between that ice, that border patrol agent and that woman, he interfered.
And at that point, you forfeit all privilege to have the moral high ground at that point.
Now they're going to deal with you in a different way.
Yeah, but murder is in sanctioned for that.
They can deal with you.
They can arrest you.
They can cuff you.
And they should have been able to.
There was 10 of them.
There was like 10 or 7 ICE agents.
They should have been able to cuff him.
I think it speaks to their lack of training that seven of them couldn't get someone who wasn't actually trying to fight them.
And they bear sprayed him on top of that.
So the fact that it led to him being shot in the back like 10 times is just, it's ridiculous.
It just shows that they really, really didn't go to a good academy or they weren't trained how they should have been trained.
Here's the thing, dude.
Do you live in the UK or you live in Europe somewhere?
Yeah, I live in the UK.
Yeah.
Our police are well-trained.
So it's never happened to you.
You're like that.
Your police don't have guns.
And you guys also don't have a Second Amendment.
So you guys don't have the same use of force doctrines that we have over here, which, you know, obviously is why you're speaking from an extremely limited purview and perspective, because quite frankly, you don't understand our laws here.
Myron, I want to just interject.
It has happened here, Adam.
It happened here with Charles de Menez.
They shot him in the back with the wrong person.
Do you not remember?
Well, here's the thing.
Yeah, we have some cases.
You guys might have one or two shootings.
An exception.
Yeah, you guys might have a few shootings a year, if that.
But the reality is that your guys' law enforcement in general don't have guns.
Guns are hard to get a hold of in the UK.
So whenever British people talk about use of force in America, I always kind of laugh because nine out of ten times, you guys are just ignorant to the facts and the fact that we have a completely different rule of law when it comes to self-defense and use of firearms with the Second Amendment here.
So let me quickly go over this because you keep bringing up this thing about him getting shot in the back.
That's not relevant.
What matters is simply this.
They're there doing an enforcement operation.
He's engaged with a female, pushes female.
As he pushes female, Alex Pritty comes up to him to get in the middle.
At that point, he's forfeited all leverage.
Then they pepper spray him.
As they pepper spray him, they try to detain him.
He resisted detainment.
As they're struggling, one of the board of trade agents says, gun.
When they say that, obviously everyone's more alert and more an awareness is heightened.
One of the board of trade agents disarms the guy.
As he's walking away with the disarmed, with the gun, the gun goes off.
Okay.
There's accidental discharge.
When that gun went off, the other board of patrol agents that were dealing with the suspect because they were focusing on him, not necessarily the other agents, they assumed, oh, the gun went off.
Somebody said, gun, and we heard the gun go off.
They're not going to take any chances.
What do they do?
They start shooting him.
Also, it's important for people to understand that while this struggle was ensuing, the person that shot him shot him from his left.
As he was shooting him from his left, he was able, you can see Alex Predty moving his right hand to his side.
Now, again, that's where his magazines were.
He didn't have his gun.
You can make the argument of, well, he was reaching, but he wasn't reaching for anything.
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That's irrelevant.
What matters is what was known to the border patrol agent at the time he fired the weapon.
And at the time, he knew there was a gun.
He knew this guy was resisting and he heard a gunshot.
These are all articulable facts that would lead his shooting to be reasonable.
In America, you're not judged on 2020 high site.
You're a judge that was the shooting reasonable given the facts and circumstances when you pulled that trigger.
And the reality is it was reasonable.
Now, I'm not here to argue that it was good.
Not here to argue if it was fair or nice.
I'm just here to argue that it was 100% lawful.
But what did you think of it?
What did you make of he said 10 times?
Myra, what did you think of 10 times, though?
That was a good point.
10 times what?
That he was shot.
I didn't hear you talk about that.
What did you make of that?
Law enforcement is trained to stop the threat.
So are you saying?
One shot or 10 shots that that's what they're taught is to stop the threat.
You don't think that's relevant, though?
Because I thought that, I mean, 10 shots in the back.
I mean, like.
Well, they're going to shoot to stop the threat, dude.
Like, you know, it's interesting because I guarantee if you guys were in that situation, right, and you heard someone scream gun, gun, gun, and then you heard a gun go off, you would shoot as well.
Like, it's interesting how people operate from a 2020 highs.
Like, dude, why'd you shoot 10 times?
When your life is on the line and it's a life or death situation, you got to make a split decision.
You'd be amazed at how many times you're going to pull that fucking trigger to make sure that they don't shoot you.
And there were what, like six or seven agents there?
There were seven.
Okay.
Tommy, have you got a question?
Is pummeling someone in the face with the beer spray?
No, I just wanted to make a statement that we should reject characterization of these people as protesters because they're not.
Cool.
Thanks for that.
Very important to Damon.
Let's go to let me just bring some more people up.
Okay, let's go to Drew.
Drew, have you got questions?
What about the bear spray question?
Pummeling in the face with the beer spray.
Is that normal protocol too?
Yeah, they can use Ace or a Taser.
They can use anything they need to to get someone compliant.
No, no, but punching him in the face with the thing.
They were like pummeling him in the face with the bear, with the not the spray itself.
You can use whatever you need to do to get the person to comply and get detained.
They can do that.
Let's go to Kyle.
Kyle, you got a question?
Like, the moral of the story is: don't interfere with law enforcement operations when you're armed.
Like, it's just that simple.
Like, it's really that simple.
Like, you guys are trying to find a way to put the onus on the border patrol agents when, in reality, this guy should have known better being a concealed carry holder.
Hey, how's it going?
Thanks for bringing me up.
Yeah, I'm an infantry soldier from Iraq, Afghanistan, 2009 to 2012.
And simply put, the guy got himself into that situation.
I live in Texas and we're very weapon-friendly here.
But yeah, the outrage is just completely unjustified.
The ICE agents are conducting high-level extraction missions, right?
No one is qualified to interrupt these types of missions.
And these, they're well orchestrated.
These are highly trained individuals.
The person who shot Renee Good, the ICE officer, he put two in the chest, one in the head.
So these are not accidental freak accidents.
Like, these aren't like under-trained individuals.
These are highly trained.
week training is what they're getting right now instead of six months by the way just so you know about the highly trained you're saying highly trained and that's and that's yeah because that's actually advertised join ice only eight week training bonus for signing up that is the ad so you're an expert on their qualifications is what you're saying no i just saw the ad that they're actually promoting you're an expert You know the resumes of all these individuals.
Okay.
These are not X-rangers.
Listen, the title of this space, I don't know why we keep going back to you have to be expert.
There are doctors, there are nurses, there are parents listening right now.
Sure, I agree.
Most of us are not fucking experts on this or that or that.
Whenever something happens in schools, Myron doesn't say you have to be a fucking teacher to be an expert.
Okay, so I'm so tired of saying we all have to be experts.
Sure, we do.
And by the way, Myron is giving really good advice right now on some of this stuff.
Okay.
But to keep saying that you have to have a damn degree or you have to go to law enforcement academy just to have a fucking opinion is pretty garbage.
So can we just please stop with that?
There's people listening right now.
There's people listening right now that are not law enforcement officers, that are not airport police officers or ICE agents or military.
Ordinary people who have ordinary jobs disagree and their disagreements should be highlighted.
Thank you.
Yeah, I think everyone here agrees if you impede an ICE officer.
Look, you're a retard and you should go, you should be sitting at home.
You shouldn't be.
And that's what I'm saying.
And as a concealed carry permit holder, you're even stupider.
Yeah, I just don't agree he was impeding.
That's the only place where we disagree, Myron.
That's all.
But I think if people are going out there on purpose to do that, look, I'm not standing up for you people because you shouldn't be doing that.
You can document it, be on the sidewalk, whatever, just stay out of the way.
That's not how you're going to win your cause or whatever.
I agree.
The people outside that hotel where ICE agents were believed to be staying last night, they should have got their asses handed to them.
I mean, literally, there was one ICE agent officer there, and there was like 30 protesters, and like one ICE, and you even had the ICE officer, Mass, saying, Where's local PD?
I agree.
Local police departments and sheriffs.
And if you know the Twin Cities, well, there's lots of sheriff, sheriffs, counties.
You have Hennepin County.
Jared, in terms of what you're saying about expertise, I think this is just a lack of understanding of expertise.
And I think what's happened is because people live in this social media sphere where they don't have education, they don't have background, they try and diminish it.
So there's two aspects to it.
So one is, of course, having expertise in a field gives you an advantage.
People on X claiming otherwise is the stupidity at the highest levels.
And it's because they don't have a background, they don't have degrees, they don't have some kind of background in whichever expertise there is.
Expertise does provide some kind of basis.
Separate to that is if there's a claim that one needs to automatically believe someone solely based on them being an expert.
No, of course, then one would analyze, one would look at the situation, one would verify, one would look at the data and then try and come to a conclusion.
And even then, you would do it based on reading other experts or reading other information or analyzing it.
So this claim that expertise has no value is stupidity.
I only hear it on social media because most people are uneducated.
So Lamont, I didn't say that.
Hold on just one second.
So I need to correct the fact.
Joanna, do you want me to finish my point before you interrupt?
You just keep interrupting.
Yeah, but you just twisted my point.
So acknowledge that first.
No, but the point is, I'm going to respond to the way I want.
So this claim is, like I said, ridiculous.
Expertise does provide a basis.
Now, does it mean that somebody has an expertise?
I'll solely agree with them.
No.
So, for example, there were COVID experts who said X.
So I didn't automatically agree with them, but at the same time, I analyzed it myself.
But then I looked at other experts and what they had to say.
I looked at other research papers of experts and said what they said.
I wouldn't just be like, blood, I don't believe it.
So the expertise matters, but then also blindly following experts obviously should also not be happening.
So yeah, when somebody comes up and says, like, I'm an expert on X, Y, and Z, yeah, I do think that their opinion has some kind of validity, and then we can analyze their specific argument and see whether it has flaws or not.
Okay, so okay, so you must have heard, okay, with all the respect, Solomon, I don't know if you heard three seconds of what I said, or are you just cutting little snippets, right?
Gaza Genocide Debate 00:10:45
We cover on this space all the time of Gaza and genocide, right?
Solomon, I don't think you're a physician, but you give your expertise on what's happening in Gaza.
I'm not saying expertise.
Why do you need to be a physician to talk about something in Gaza?
Right.
Genocide people being killed, right?
Medically, right?
No, that's genocide isn't medically.
So genocide.
Are you a war analyst?
Are you a military?
So that's what I'm saying.
No, no.
So again, you're again not understanding the point.
So let me again.
So now this is an example of the stupidity.
So let me be clear on this.
So with Gaza genocide, so the word genocide has a specific definition to it.
So that is both a legalistic definition and a dictionary definition.
That's something we can read.
That's something we can analyze.
There are legal experts who took it to the ICC and the ICJ.
And the ICJ said there's a high, that they decided that there likely is a genocide in Gaza.
In addition to that, I agree.
And so that's a legal estimate.
But separate to that, when I...
Hey, guys, do me a favor.
Like the video, bro.
We're sitting at, we're going to do Money Monday here in a second.
I'm just waiting for Fresh to get here.
But we got 700 likes, guys.
So smash that like button for me.
Okay, let me read some of these chats.
Marin, Shittiapolis, mayor says they are deploying National Guard members to combat ICE.
Is this true?
And if so, how is that reasonable for the government to deploy them to combat federal agents?
They're just posturing.
They won't be able to do anything.
Because at the end of the day, bro, the National Guard is still the military, still Army.
So they won't be able to do anything.
Chef Mac, can we talk about money and investments?
We're going to do that here in a second.
ZHC says these people are actually defending resisting law enforcement.
If I went to the hood and agitated them because I didn't agree with what they were doing and got killed, no one would care exactly.
Mari, so low IQ to interpret, to comprehend what you are saying to them.
Yeah, bro, like this, when it comes to, I'll tell you guys this.
One of the things that really exposes these progressives as retards is like use of force situations like this.
Like when I was explaining the Renee Good situation and people were like fighting me on that, on that, I was like, wow, people are really fucking dumb.
Like if you don't understand the concept that a car is a deadly weapon, I don't know what to tell you.
Like you're literally stupid and you're probably not really Second Amendment, pro-Second Amendment.
But yeah, these ICE shootings have really been able to expose like stupid people to me.
Hey, Marin, your mods kicked me out of OSS.
I didn't violate any of your guidelines.
Anonymous said that.
What did they kick you out for?
Were you putting porn in there or some shit like that?
Dizzy says, Myron is funny.
Hayden says, Yo, Marin, do you plan on coming to campus in Tampa?
You'd have to campaign for me to go to your school.
You got to make an uncensored America chapter.
Balou says, hey, Marin, I have a question about something everyone is missing about the shooting.
From what I have read, he was not lawfully carrying because he was carrying his gun while being involved in a crime which is impeding an investigation.
Could that be true?
You could interpret it that way.
Restless Viking says, what would you do if you were in charge of ICE safety to minimize accidental shootings?
They need to stay in locals out there, bro.
That's a big part of the problem here.
Ken Rose, five bucks.
JHN says, I'm trying to join Isa Wildering.
If you had any tips I could for my application, just go through, put it in, bro.
Put it in.
Apply everywhere.
Sam Porter Bridges.
Hey, Marin, I understand your motivation.
Oh, no.
We caught up on that one.
Paul Smoke says, How are these leftist cucks so dumb?
He wasn't impeding.
He literally got in between a lady and the officer.
Yeah, bro.
They're stupid, dude.
They're stupid.
And that's like I told y'all before, these ICE shootings really reveal who the retards are.
It really does.
Like, dudes are over here saying, well, they trade with IDF.
What does that have to do with anything when it comes to this particular shooting?
Like, this has that has nothing to do with the argument at hand.
And even if they did train with the IDF, that has nothing to do with this, right?
Despite the fact that, like, training with the IDF is not in the actual customary training.
How do I know that?
Because I've been through HSI set.
I have a certificate right here behind me that says I complete HSI special agent training.
There's no IDF training in there, bro.
There's none.
So this training that they're talking about was probably like some supplemental training that, you know, just a few agents participated in.
And it really doesn't have anything to do with what's going on here.
So people are just dumb, dude.
But anyway, I'll turn this shit back on so you guys can hear.
And then Mikey says, Myron, can you leave the space, please?
I can't stand these low IQ dumbfucks.
I'm trying to ask a question, but these dumb fucks won't let me.
Can you leave the dude?
Just ask the question here.
I'm here.
They're probably not going to let you come up because you might not know.
You might have like a low following and they don't know who you are.
This is there to remove illegal aliens, not kill American citizens for no reason because of their race, whether they're Jewish or black or something.
They're getting rid of illegal aliens.
And so far, white people have been killed.
It's not even racism.
They can't pull that card, right?
The other guy's a Jew or whatever.
But these arguments are all emotional.
They're all in hindsight.
And I'm sitting here like, wow, you know, one guy demanded me the other day, make your position, Lucas, morality.
I don't even know all the facts yet.
I just learned the other day the gun misfired, like Myron said, the agent accidentally misfired, or that gun actually supposedly, the SIG has a problem where it misfires all the time, apparently.
I don't know.
Maybe he pulled the trigger, but it was a tragedy.
Nobody meant to kill this guy.
Murder means I'm going to kill this motherfucker.
I can't wait.
The same thing with Renee Good, right?
If someone just walked up to her car, put your window down, I don't want you, and then blew her face off, that's murder.
That's ridiculous, right?
So all of these arguments are people who maybe see what's happened with the IDF, and then they're saying our ICE is IDF.
It's not, the IDF blows up babies every day and they laugh on Telegram.
That's not what ICE is doing.
So people voted for this.
They want to get rid of the illegal aliens.
That's what they want.
They don't want to kill left-wing Americans who are protesting.
No one is doing that.
And I find it interesting.
I was kind of getting frustrated because I respect all the anti-Zionists.
I've been allies with you guys for a long time.
And it's like, okay, two, three people get shot by ICE.
Look what happened in Iran.
And I'm not going to pull the Zionist narrative of 30,000 people, but they were shooting people.
Now, whether they're Mossad agents, whether the Iranians were tricked, they're shooting thousands of people.
Whatever the death toll is, it's way more than two.
All right.
So we have ICE agents who these people in terrible situations.
Then you have the Iranians who's shooting crowds of people.
And again, I'm not pushing Zionist.
But then people want to invade Iran over that's what people invade the U.S. That's my point, Soliman.
I don't want to interfere with you.
Even if Iran did the worst possible thing, or any country, South Korea, North Korea, Syria, I don't speak upon the domestic policies.
I tell everyone, look, I'm with you against anti-Zion against Israel because my country is blowing you guys up.
Like my country's literally blowing you up.
So you guys can talk about foreign policy all you want.
But when it seems to me the left-wing anti-Zionist movement, which is, by the way, captured by you know who, is blaming racism, white supremacy.
I got people telling me I'm living on stolen land.
I'm like, really?
I was born in Italy.
I was brought here for my parents.
Like, what are you saying?
Like, all this crazy rhetoric that's BLM coded.
And then that's why people are like, who cares about these people getting shot?
Instead of feeling bad for these people who are being told to go there, they're being told ICE has no jurisdiction.
Yeah, they do have a jurisdiction to execute the lawful mandate that was given by the president.
You don't have a right to jump in there and park your car in front of them.
You don't have a right to do anything but sit there and protest from the sideline.
So these people are being told, go do whatever you want, fight.
One guy, this guy with a dress over there telling him we got to resist and kill everybody.
I don't know why he's not arrested yet for something, but people are getting emotional.
And I understand it.
It's ugly what happened.
It's a tragedy what happened to Renee Goode.
And yes, people on the right are saying, I don't give a fuck.
Fuck around, find out.
Well, guess what?
The people on the left were laughing at Charlie Kirk.
They were making TikTok videos.
Yeah, that's great.
Fuck that fascist.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
So both sides are trying to use this as some kind of bludgeon to hit the other side.
And that sucks.
And that's tribalism.
That's what happens.
But look, Myron laid it down exactly how he said it.
It is a lawful shoot.
It's ugly.
It's lawful, but awful.
Remember that.
And that doesn't mean I support.
And I'm getting called the Zionist bootlicker.
All these people that I see Palestine flag or whatever, you're a Zion.
I can't believe you betrayed us.
What do you, you're, what?
I haven't said a single thing about any of your countries.
And they're telling me I'm a fucking Zionist now because I don't, I, I, that's a terrible shit.
It's horrible what happened to this guy.
You know, so again, in America, a lot of you guys who don't have guns, Myron said it again.
It's when a police officer approaches a vehicle and they don't know who's in that car, they know Americans are armed.
Okay.
What happens in the UK?
You might have a knife or something.
All right.
In America, people, it's not just a conflict.
But Lucas, one thing I would say is when you're talking about people from like, you know, people who are pro-Palestine, you've got people in the US and the UK who are also white, who are pro-Palestine.
I'll give you an example.
I went to, and they could be the people who are saying that to you as well, because I'll give you an example.
I went to our white, white liberals, yeah.
And I'm saying it's people from all races.
I'm not just saying it's white people, by the way.
So my point is this, because they all said they don't care about all the sacrifices we've all made.
They want you, they want purity tests from all of us.
But the point is, I went to a, do you remember when the encampments happened?
I never even mentioned it at that time because I didn't want to have negative press about the pro-Palestinian movement.
I'm basically a Muslim guy who is a brown, right?
And I'll go into a pro-Palestinian encampment in the UK in order to highlight what they're doing.
And they're like, oh, what's your view on, well, the funny of the Alex Jones and Myron.
And I said, look, like, Myron's my friend and Tim, I know Tay as well at that time.
And they were like, literally threw me out of the encampment.
And they were like, you guys are against feminism.
And I was like, bruv, you're literally like, let's be clear on this.
Like, the people, my views are more similar to the resistance views.
Yours aren't.
And yet you're throwing me out of an encampment about Palestine.
So this happens.
All right, guys.
So we're going to get this thing going here.
Let me read some of these chats.
That one guy literally says ADF trains ICE to treat their targets like how they treat those in Gaza.
I have lost what little faith I had in American general intelligence.
Yeah, they're stupid, bro.
Like you're talking about an occupying force that just did a genocide compared to guys that are just trying to deport illegal aliens.
Retarded.
I know you're coming to USC soon.
How would we go about getting you the liberal shithole college of Charleston in South Carolina?
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You got to join.
You got to basically make a chapter for Uncensored America.
Eric Fear says, holy shit, these UK niggas are stupid.
They sound like liberal white women.
Yeah, dude, they're stupid.
Mikey says, Myron, can you leave the space, please?
I can't stand these low IQ dumb folks who're trying to ask questions.
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