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Dec. 8, 2025 - MyronGainesX
01:39:07
Nick Fuentes vs Piers Morgan LIVE
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People can judge you accordingly.
Many people, many people who have assumed that you're in.
being racist.
Every single bit justified to the extent that that means going out of your way to avoid black people when you see them.
You stand by.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
So white people should go out of their way to avoid black people when they see them.
Absolutely.
They would be wise.
Why?
Because it's a lose-lose proposition.
If you're Irina Zarutska and you don't walk the other way, you get stabbed to death and you die.
If you're somebody else and you walk on the subway and you stand near a black person or something, maybe it's fine.
It's a lose-lose proposition.
So, no, I think that white people, I think that white people have been beaten into submission, that we're afraid to tell the truth about it.
And the truth is that when you go into these major cities like New York or Chicago, I believe she was in North Carolina, there is a menace, which is young black adolescent men.
They're extremely violent.
And we have been told that we have to pretend like they are every other person.
We have to be colorblind to that.
And we're supposed to go and be in the midst of all this danger.
And I think that at this point, it's gotten out of control.
You look at the BLM movement, they said that the reason that black people are violent or the reason there's crime is because of police brutality, the redlining or all these other things.
They said we need to get rid of the police.
We need to defund them.
And a lot of cities did.
A lot of cities like Chicago, for example, the police change the rules of engagement.
They don't chase them.
It's not a felony if you steal a certain amount of merchandise.
They won't chase them on foot.
And now the city's totally up for grabs.
And now, whether you're in the Gold Coast or whether you're on the Mag Mile or you're in the worst neighborhoods in the city, you might get shot.
You might get mugged.
Someone might run up on you.
And I tell my followers, it is better to be perceived as racist or racist and walk the other way and maybe keep your life than to say, I'm a good anti-racist.
I don't mind that this person's making me uncomfortable.
Maybe he's looking a little froggy.
I'm going to sit down because I'm a good person and get stabbed, mugged, whatever.
And by the way, this is a strategy.
They call it the friendly stranger.
There's a crew of them.
They do this in Chicago.
They stand outside bars, black people, they approach strangers.
It's a robbery crew.
And they pretend to be a friendly stranger and then they mug them.
And stupid white people say, oh, hi, yeah, nice to meet you.
You know, they grin, they laugh, they put up with the nonsense, and then they get mugged or worse, sometimes they get executed.
And so it's a white people.
How do you feel about mass shootings at school?
I think they're bad.
Who do you think commits the vast majority of the mass shootings?
I'm sure it's white people.
Right.
So how do you feel about that?
I think that white people do more anti-social violence.
I think black people participate in more gang violence.
I think that's the difference.
What's the difference to the victims?
There's no difference to the victim, but it's a different kind of crime and it's a different proportion also.
Do you know what percentage of white people are school shooters?
I know that the vast majority of mass shootings in schools in America this century were perpetrated by young white men.
And I'm not sure.
And what proportion of proportion.
I'm curious whether your advice would be to people who have kids who aren't.
Is my mouse working?
Should they proportion?
Should they avoid white people at school?
Should people with the kids at school avoid young white men at school?
No.
Do you know what per capita means?
Do you know proportionality?
There are more black people proportionally that engage in violent crime or are involved in gangs, especially in these major cities, than there are white people that are school shooters compared to the entire white population.
And everybody understands that.
Two-thirds of mass shootings at school perpetrated by white people.
But what proportion of white men commit school shootings?
That's the question.
I've just told you.
It's 60 to 65% of school shootings by white people.
You're telling me what proportion of school shootings are committed by white people.
I'm saying what proportion of white people have committed school shootings.
Are you playing dumb or are you just not that?
What difference does that make to the children lying dead on the ground?
See, now you want to jump on the victims.
The difference is you're asking, would you fear white people or black people?
And that's the difference.
The difference is that what I'm saying to you is by your logic, if we now have agreed that the vast majority of mass shootings in schools are committed by white people and predominantly young white men, then presumably your advice would be to avoid young white men because they perpetrate these.
But it won't be because they're white, right?
So are you playing dumb or are you actually dumb?
It's about proportionality.
You are.
You are because you're, well, I don't think you are.
I think you're smart, actually, but you're deliberately avoiding per capita.
And everybody knows that's the difference.
What proportion of white men are school shooters?
It's probably 0.000001%.
What proportion of black men have committed violent crimes?
It's probably like 5%.
I don't know what it is off the top of my head, but it's very high.
And I would add to that, even as it concerns schools, why do you think parents pay a super high property tax to live in a school district where there's white people?
Because they know that if they go to the black school, it's going to be the bloods in the crypts.
It's going to be gangs.
It's going to be, you know, around the blacks that can't relax, baby.
He talks about all the school shootings that are committed by gangbangers in and around the school and all the other violence that's associated with that.
I mean, these schools in the south side of Chicago, you know, it's just not.
I have an answer for you, Nick.
So the proportion of the population who carry out mass shootings is actually the same.
for black and white for white people the proportion of not the proportion are you hearing it No, no.
I think the trouble with your statistics is a lot of them don't bear much scrutiny.
We have a bunch of fact checkers checking all this in real time because you do have a tendency to just come out with a little bit old baloney.
And when you say, you know, it's true.
And when you're confronted with reality, you don't like it.
What's the figure?
What proportion of white people have committed school shootings with white people as the denominator and white people that have committed school shootings as the numerator?
What's that percentage?
Black and whites, the proportion of the population who carry out mass shootings generally is about the same.
No, no.
Tell me the number.
And then, and then, and yet the only focus of your attention is the black shootings, the black crime.
You don't want to live around black people.
You want to avoid white people.
You don't want interracial marriages or relationships that may produce black people.
And yet, when I point out to you that there are many parts of crime in America where actually there's a majority of white people that perpetrate them, you don't care.
You don't have any interest in them.
It doesn't exercise your mind.
Maybe you see no one's.
This argument lost.
No one is buying this.
Everybody understands per capita.
And people could even see what you're you race ahead and say, well, we're comparing the proportion of white and black school shooters.
I said, no, no, compare the proportion of school shooters that are white versus violent criminals that are black, because that was the basis of the monologue is that you're very likely if you encounter black people or a young black man in the city, that you're going to be the victim of a violent crime, of a robbery, a mugging, a car theft, a carjacking, or a murder.
That's the difference.
And it's about proportionality.
And everybody sees past that because we all live in reality.
You want to talk about product of your environment.
People that live in New York, Chicago, LA, we live in reality.
We live in this environment and we see what it's like.
And the threat, the danger in terms of probability is not, it's not even comparable.
And I would add, I would say this to your point.
If you're in a high school and you, and truly, if you see a white person who looks like a little autistic, he's got the SSRI stare and he reaches for a backpack, people jump and say, run.
Similarly, if you see a jalapi pulling up with a bunch of black people in it and they got their pants around the ankles, you're going to run also.
And I'm saying the same thing.
The difference is the latter happens much more often.
It's much more common.
You know, in Chicago, there's like 10,000 carjackings and car thefts every day.
It's in the thousands.
It happens all the time.
How many mass shootings committed by autistic SSRI white people?
I don't even know.
I mean, it's probably in the single digits in the last decade in this city.
That's the difference.
And everybody knows that.
But you're really just trying to carry water for liberal ideology.
It's an ideological.
No, no, I'm not.
No, I'm really not.
I can absolutely say, yes, there is way too much black crime, for example, involving guns.
In black and white, also.
Yes, but there is way too much gun violence in Chicago, right?
I mean, it's indisputable.
I've got no problem saying that.
The difference is I don't then lead myself into a thought process where I have to avoid all black people in case they shoot me.
And you've already conceded that you are a racist.
So when people hear you then say, I don't want to be anywhere near black people.
Racist.
They already have heard you say I'm a racist.
So they assume you're doing that because of people's skin color.
I don't think you would probably dispute that, right?
Well, you're separating two different things.
The monologue, when I said, I don't want to live around black people, that was after Irina Zaruska got shot.
And it's true.
I mean, they are largely in this city, in Chicago, the South Side, the West Side, huge criminal population.
And I don't want to live anywhere near it.
And I do.
I want to live in a white neighborhood.
I think that that's extremely desirable.
And I think even black people.
Again, Nick, you're perfectly entitled to that view.
But when you have obviously prefaced all this by saying, I am a racist, unashamedly, then people will assume that all your thought processes about all of these issues are driven by an aversion to people based on their skin color, which is the purest personification of racism.
Well, it's not an aversion.
I would say it's the opposite.
I like my own people.
My own people are familiar to me.
And I think that's true across the board.
I think that people seek out other people that are like themselves.
And every other group does this, whether it's blacks, Hispanics, Asians.
You know, I get a lot of attacks when I talk about that I'm against interracial marriage.
And what's funny is that every other group is against interracial or inter-ethnic marriage.
Jews are a very important person.
You're the product of an interracial marriage.
Yeah, I mean, that's debatable.
Let's say for the sake of argument.
No, no, you're the product of an interracial marriage.
And your father is part Mexican.
You're literally literally the very person you've just told me you want to avoid.
What race is Hispanic?
Is that a race?
Well, what do you think it is?
I'm asking you, what race is Hispanic?
Hispanic?
Of course it's a race.
It's called Hispanic.
It's a mix between two races.
It's a mix between Indigenous Americans.
It's not white, though, is it?
It's not white.
Well, you're apparently you're more of a racial purist than me.
You got like a race.
Oh, really?
You just keep saying you only want to live in a white neighborhood, but you're literally from a mixed race background yourself.
You've literally got Lexicon blood.
I know.
And I live in a non-white neighborhood too.
I'm trying to get out of here, though, but I'm trying to get out.
But here's the thing.
Do you have any non-white friends?
Genuine question.
Most of my friends are non-white.
Most of my friends are not.
And non-white people love my show.
How many of them?
How many are black?
How many of your friends are black?
Many of them, like at least a dozen.
Wow.
Yay.
Yay being one who you know, Sneeko being another who you also know.
So how do they feel when you say you just want to be away from any black people?
Walk away from them.
Well, you know, you know what Yay told me?
I'll tell you verbatim what he said.
He said, so you use the N-word.
I said, yeah.
He goes, well, when niggas are being niggas, I said, so true.
That's so true.
So they feel like they're in disagreement with me.
What does that mean?
It means that even black people know how black people can behave.
Even black people understand it.
And they know that it doesn't come from a place of, and you use the word aversion.
That's the first thing I'll actually dispute.
It's not an aversion on the basis of skin color, because that would seem to suggest it's like a stubborn, irrational bigotry.
I don't consider myself a bigot.
I consider myself a racial realist.
I'm realistic about how the races are.
And I speak provocatively about it.
And I speak provocatively about our tribalistic instincts and tendencies as human beings.
And I'm not a liberal ideologue that says that over time and with enough education, we're all going to see this great brotherhood where we're colorblind and everybody's the same.
You know, I don't think that's ever going away.
I think that race is real.
It's not just skin deep.
It matters to us and it matters to each other.
And black people know that and Hispanics know that and Asians know that.
And people like me that have partial Mexican ancestry, we know that too.
And I think on that basis, we can have mutual respect and understanding, not aversion based on skin color.
The reason I use the word aversion is you literally said that you should walk the other way if you see black people.
That is an aversion to black people based on their skin color.
No.
No, that's called economy of information.
That's economy of information.
That's safety.
And I feel, I said in the same monologue, if you watch it, it's like, I feel sorry.
The problem is you clipped the 10 seconds.
I don't know if you watched the whole show, but in that monologue, I said, most black people are not violent or criminals.
I said, and it's unfortunate that we're going to offend them when we turn and walk the other way.
I said, but the problem is we don't know.
We can't tell.
And someone like Irina Zarutska, she sat down in front of a black man with her headphones in and wasn't paying attention because she was being a good liberal and said, I'm not uncomfortable by this.
I'm progressive.
Then she got stabbed in the neck.
And I said, it's unfortunate that you would have to sit behind the black man to be safe.
And if he's not violent or schizophrenic, he might be offended by that.
I said, but I wouldn't have to.
How many deranged men die?
How many deranged white men have committed atrocious acts of murder in the last 10 years in America?
Proportionally, far fewer.
Far fewer.
How many?
Do you know how many?
You have a research team.
You pull it up.
You're obviously extremely exercised by that one story, which was horrific for the record, absolutely horrific, and should never have happened.
The person who perpetrated that evil act had a string of previous offenses and should have been picked up more and it should have been amplified more.
I completely concur with all of that.
But I don't, I just suspect you have no idea how many white people have committed similar crimes, do you?
No, because I know it's far fewer from experience.
Okay.
Because it's like you said.
Well, and hang on.
And I would add to that: you know, Irina Zarutska wasn't the first one.
That was also after Austin Metcalfe was killed in Texas.
Sure.
After Carlos, how many times has he been?
Well, hang on.
Let me finish my point.
I know white people don't do this.
And my point to you, neglectors, is of course, of course.
I never said white people don't care.
Of course, deranged white people commit heinous acts, but you don't either know you either, you neither know nor care, or maybe both.
Maybe you do know, but don't care.
You only seem to be focused on black people who commit crimes.
And again, if you hadn't prefaced the whole debate about racism by openly conceding you are a racist, I could read other connotations into what you've been saying.
But once you've said, okay, I'm a racist, and then you only talk about black crime, I think people can watch this and they can say, yeah, he is.
He's a racist.
And everything that he says about crime is driven through the prism of being a racist who judges people according to their skin color.
Well, it's funny because it's quite on the contrary.
And I said this in a similar monologue.
You know, the problem is not that I wake up and I walk down the street and I see someone that doesn't look like me and it makes me angry.
The problem is there's a pattern of behavior, which we've all seen.
Blacks in America have become narcissistic and they become narcissistic because they've been told they're victims of racism, they're victims of slavery.
They've been told really there's no accountability.
If they're rude, if they're inconsiderate, if they're criminal, they are told that they have no agency for their actions.
They're being told, if you act in this way, it's because the white man made you that way.
It's because the system's rigged against you.
And so we have been telling black people this for a generation.
And now there's no rules.
Now they go.
And what we hate to see as decent people, not even as white people, but decent people, even black people too, what we hate to see is rudeness, obnoxiousness, inconsideration, criminality, violence.
And that's that pattern of behavior that we see all over social media.
Just to be clear, you don't like black people who play the victim and are rude.
Is that your position?
I don't like that pattern of behavior.
And you're a narcissist.
I see where this is going.
What the hell?
Yeah, you're going to turn this around.
Ahead of me, aren't you?
Because when I say that black friends have you got, you say I'm kind of black, aren't I?
No, not that.
You say, oh, yeah, I'm not saying you.
I'm just saying your choice of black friend is Ye, who is arguably the number one black victimhood narcissist in America.
Do you understand the problem?
So he's your friend.
He's one of the very few black people you want to be associated with.
Pierce just hates the epitome of what you just said because he walked out on him about narcissistic black people.
I disagree.
I disagree with you.
And I'll tell you why.
Because Ye, if you've ever met him in real life, I have.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, then you know he's walked out of his interview.
He's polite, considerate.
I wish he was so mad about that.
The last two times I interviewed him.
He's a supreme narcissist.
And he's also.
You keep interrupting me.
You're very rude.
Are you black?
Because you're being very rude by interrupting me right now.
I'm giving you a hard time.
But I look, I do want to finish my point.
I do want to finish my point about Ye.
He is a guy who, when I was with him, wanted to make sure that everybody was heard, everybody felt included.
He's actually a very soft-spoken guy, very polite.
And by the way, not violent.
When you look at all the rappers that are in the music game, many of them, especially from Chicago, Drill Rap, they're talking about killing people, shooting people.
They gangbang.
He notably, if you know about him, he got a start because he was a nerd.
He wore a backpack and a polo, and he wasn't a gangbanger.
He rapped about his feelings and girls and his dreams and his ambitions.
No, and by the way, he would tell me all the time he doesn't even feel black.
They make him feel not black because he doesn't do those things, because he's soft-spoken, because he's artistic, because he's a bit of a nerd or likes fashion.
So I would disagree.
He's actually not like that at all.
He's also a Hitler-loving anti-Semite.
I knew that was coming.
Talk about anti-Semitism.
I knew that was coming.
Deep what you said about the same subject matter.
Bruh.
Yo.
Angel Studios.
Yo, that was fucking comedy.
Chat, welcome to the fucking stream, bro.
Well, we have him shilling for some coins right now.
Might as well, like, yo, I saw they were live.
I said, fuck it.
Let's go live.
I haven't slept yet, but we're here.
You guys are going to get the best commentary on this shit on the fucking internet.
There's no one else that's going to keep it more raw.
But this is fucking comedy.
I ain't going to lie.
Guys, get your chats in now so I can read them.
Even conscious and aware, black people don't want to live around black people from Milo and Frank W early stream.
Got you guys.
No one is colorblind when it comes to black and white.
Marion, your mic level is very high and sounds saturated.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, I had to turn it up to get around to other stuff, but it should be good now.
Tell me, give me once in the chat.
The mic is good now.
Guys, so just to recap real quick for you guys.
Well, Pierce does this infomercial here.
This kind of started with Pierce making an accusation that implied that Nick's dad was racist.
That's where the problems began.
Hate all Jews.
Is that correct?
That's your position.
Yes.
Okay.
So I want to play you this clip.
Well, I don't hate any Jews.
Let me just amend that.
I don't hate any Jews.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's play this clip.
The reason I've had it is because my opposition to world Jewry and Israel is rooted in absolute, uncontestable fact.
We have the truth on our side.
That's why we're winning.
Because we are telling the truth about the historical antagonism between Jews and Europeans, between Jews and Christians.
The theological, historical, racial, cultural, and political antagonisms between organized Jewry and the Christians, organized Jewry and Europeans.
And the reason that we are winning that argument is because it's real.
It's true.
I can prove it.
I can show you.
I can name the names.
I can show you the paper trail, the money.
That is why we're winning.
That is why all of this is raising the consciousness.
Here's about to get cooked.
You have this opposition to world Jewry.
I mean, it's one thing to criticize, for example, the Israeli government over what it's been doing in Gaza.
I've done that myself.
When you talk about world Jewry, I presume you're talking about the 15 million Jews in the world, and you are opposed to them.
How does that square with your position that you don't hate any Jews?
Well, do you take issue with my use of the term world Jewry?
Well, what do you mean by that?
Do you take issue with it?
Do you have a problem with it?
Clarify what you mean by it.
Well, it's funny you bring that up.
The gaslighting's crazy because I use that expression on my show all the time.
I say organized Jewry, world Jewry.
And do you know that for like 30 years, the World Jewish Congress has an annual keynote called the State of World Jewry?
Barry Weiss has given it.
You can look it up.
It's on YouTube.
She gives the state of the world.
But what do you mean?
What do you mean?
But Nick, what do you mean by it?
I mean, you have to talk about, you know, there's a concept of Jewish peoplehood.
It's the sense that they are part of a common nationality, a common tribe, a common people.
And so where they reside in Israel, the United States or Europe, or elsewhere, they see each other above or maybe on a different level alongside their nationality, their, you know, their state, wherever they reside.
If they're in Germany, France, the United States, they see themselves as part of a transnational nation, of an international nation.
The Jews in America, the Jews in Israel, they identify as Israeli or American, but they also have something in common.
They identify as part of a common nation, which I would say there's a world Jewish population.
It's world Jewry.
And world Jewry has representatives.
There is such a thing as the World Jewish Congress, where they actually elect, it's Democratic, all the local Jewish organizations elect representatives to represent proportionally the Jewish population in their area at the World Jewish Congress.
And it's sort of like Davos.
It's like the World Economic Forum, but it's exclusively for members of the Jewish nation that exists across the world.
And so that's a real thing.
And I didn't make that up.
And that didn't come from 4chan.
It's like I said in that clip.
I read what they write.
I read their books.
I watch these speeches.
I watch a speech from Barry Weiss.
I pay very close attention.
So that's what I mean by that.
There is such a thing as it's a nation that exists across borders on a global scale.
They're organized and they have a national self-interest as that nation, as that tribe.
So if you don't hate any Jews, what do you like about them?
I like a lot of things about them.
I think they're funny.
I think they're smart.
I think that they're pretty remarkable people.
And as Christians, especially as Catholics, we say they're remarkable.
And this has been adjudicated in Catholic doctrine for thousands of years.
We say that they're a witness people.
And so we actually, you know, there's provisions inside of Catholic doctrine that says we need to give them special protections because they were a witness to Christ's passion.
So, you know, this is why you can't clip the show.
You have to watch the whole thing.
I say this repeatedly in interviews.
I do think they're remarkable.
By definition, they're exceptional people.
It's just that there is a sort of natural opposition between them and Christians because of the theology.
We believe that Christ is a Messiah.
They don't.
They have been a minority in Christian lands for thousands of years.
And they have been pushed around and expelled and they've been persecuted and segregated.
And that's why there's a lot of paranoia.
There's a lot of distrust.
There's maybe some sense of chauvinism among Jewish people.
So there is, like I said in that clip, there is an historical antagonism between these two peoples, between Christendom and Jewry.
And that has always been the case in Europe.
But I don't hate them.
And I think I actually sort of understand them in a weird way.
I think that because I've studied a lot of their politics, I think I really kind of know them in a way.
It doesn't come from a place of hatred.
Do you have any Jewish friends?
I do.
I have many, yes.
But that's weird because you said this.
Jews and Christians have never been friends ever.
Not since Jesus Christ fought with the Pharisees.
Have we ever been friends?
Not since Saul was leading the charge persecuting the Christians.
Not since the Roman Empire, not since the Middle Ages.
Never.
We've never been friends.
We've never been allies.
We've always been set against each other, actually.
And even here in the United States, it was a lot of Jews who were the architects of both communism and the civil rights laws that are dispossessing white Christians of their land and civilization.
The Jews and Christians have never been friends ever.
Bro, he said his best friend is Jewish on Tucker.
Except for you and your Jew.
Come on, Pierce.
Jewish friends.
Yeah, so easy.
As peoples, as peoples, as nations.
Got it.
It's not saying every individual Christian.
Of course, there have been Christian converts to Judaism, Jewish converts to Christian.
You're nodding your head, but you're asking this.
I'm saying as peoples, they know it.
Hey, as a Roman.
I'm a Catholic like you, and I have many Jewish friends.
I'm just trying to compute what you're trying to say, which is Jews and Christians have never been friends ever.
And I'm like, well, you have Jewish friends.
I have Jewish friends.
We're both Catholics.
Therefore, we're Christians.
Sort of doesn't really quite add up.
Well, like I said, as peoples, there has been an historical antagonism as peoples.
And you could even say this.
Bro, he's talking about biblical times.
Come on, Pierce.
United States.
Of course, there were black and white people that were friendly with each other, but in many ways, they were set against each other as groups.
And I think that's easy enough to understand.
The reason that many people think you're anti-Semitic is that you have regularly downplayed the Holocaust and, in particular, the number of Jewish people who were murdered by the Nazis.
Here we go.
It's been said that you believe no more than several hundred families have been killed.
And I'm going to play you this clip.
Oh, shit.
Here we go.
About, well, you know, what about the gas chambers?
Well, to the extent that that's real, I find that hard to believe, but to the extent that's real, there have been atrocities committed and genocides committed in all times and all places.
Let's acknowledge why Hitler casts the long shadow because that confers a political benefit upon Jews.
That's why.
It doesn't really sound correct to me.
Wait a second.
It takes one hour to cook a batch of cookies and you have 15 ovens, probably four different kitchens, right?
Doing 24 hours a day every day for five years.
How long would it take you to make six million?
Hmm, I don't know.
It certainly wouldn't be five years, right?
The math doesn't seem to add up there.
You think that's funny?
Yes.
It's funny.
It's amusing what you're doing because, you know, that one was a joke.
But do you want to talk seriously about the holographic?
Do you think?
I do, because I just find it extraordinary that you would think the Holocaust could ever be something that we could joke about.
Why, too soon?
Is it too soon to make jokes?
How many people do you think died in the Holocaust?
How many Jewish people?
I don't know.
I'm thinking maybe 7 million.
What's the number?
7, 6 million, something like that.
You can see that 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust.
Possibly more.
Possibly, we're discovering all the time.
So it could maybe even be more than that.
Why have you doubted the numbers in the past?
I'll tell you why.
I really think that every death is a tragedy, however many Jewish people died in the Holocaust.
And I'm not a World War II historian.
So I'm actually open to believing the official narrative.
And I've read some of the conspiracy theories.
And to tell you the truth, it's a rigorous debate.
But, you know, what's interesting about this is in many countries, it's not even legal to talk about it.
And that's really where my interest in the Holocaust begins and sort of ends, to tell you the truth, is that if you wanted to question the number, you would be put in jail in about what?
Bring up Erna Zandel.
Erna Zandel, man.
I think that's really the more interesting conversation, which is that this is almost like a religious dogma in the West.
No other genocide, no other atrocity is treated like this.
Could you imagine if in the United States, they said the number of Palestinians killed in Gaza is 100,000.
And if you don't say that, you're going to jail.
You're banned on X. You can't have a job.
That's the part that's totally insane.
And a lot of people, they can't even make up their minds.
I think it's actually done a disservice.
If your goal, if, and I'm not saying you as Piers Morgan, but if your goal, if you're an advocate for awareness about this, if your goal is to convince everybody that this is the way the Holocaust happened, I think the last thing you'd want to do is say that everyone that disagrees is in jail and is banned and you're not allowed to say it.
So there's really been no open debate about the subject since the scholarship started to be produced about 60 years ago.
There is no debate to be had about the number of people who were murdered.
Even the Nazis, even the Nazis in the trials after the war confirmed the numbers.
The amount of documentation that was recovered, notwithstanding the attempts by the Nazis to destroy it, the amount of documentation that was saved and preserved and used for trials of historical record is unprecedented in the history of mass slaughter of human beings.
So we have a very clear idea of how many people were gassed to death in the gas chambers.
We have a very clear idea of how many were starved to death, were kept in ghettos, died of disease, of forced labor, of death marches.
We know how many Jews were slaughtered.
It's at least 6 million.
What's interesting to me is that you appear to now concede that, which may be news to a lot of your regular viewers who have constantly heard you quibble with the number of Jews who died in the Holocaust.
For the record, just to confirm what I think you told me, you do now accept that at least 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust.
Well, no, I said it could be, it could even be higher than that.
Well, it could be higher.
That is, it's at least at least, oh, it's at least 6 million.
It could be 100 times higher.
People are going to be.
Okay, the people are going to be.
But let me respond to your, let me respond to the rest of your question.
What you're saying, I understand where you're coming from when you say it has been documented and there are confessions and so on.
Let that speak for itself.
But you don't see, you know, your show is called Piers Morgan Uncensored.
Yep.
But the United Kingdom is censored and Europe is censored.
And if you talk about these things, you will be put in jail in many countries.
And I think that's where a lot of people start to say, well, if the truth is so clear and if there's such overwhelming evidence, why do you need to throw people in jail for disagreeing?
And you yourself said, well, there is no debate.
I think everything is debatable.
I think everything at least should be debated.
And if the evidence is very one-sided, let the evidence speak.
Don't throw people in jail.
So do you think that Holocaust denial laws should be overturned?
I don't particularly agree with Holocaust denial laws.
I don't think people should be imprisoned.
Well, because I have a blanket view now, which has evolved slightly actually over the years, that I have a blanket view that speech should not be criminalized, right?
People should be allowed to say what they want to say, and they should be then made accountable for what they say.
If you have an employer, they can make a view about whether you are the right kind of person they want for their employment, as they will make a decision about anything else you do in life.
So I actually believe that speech should never be criminalized.
It's my personal view.
I understand why in places like Germany, they have strong laws about it because they want to move on from what they believe was the most shameful moment in their history.
I understand that.
Do I want that in my country?
No.
Am I appalled by what has been going on with free speech in the United Kingdom in the last two or three years?
Absolutely.
It is ridiculous that people have been frog marched to prison cells for stuff they put on social media, right?
So yeah, I do.
I think what is more interesting to me about our exchange is I was not expecting you to go the opposite way.
I was not expecting you to be so emphatic that at least 6 million Jews died on the Holocaust.
And there'll be people watching this who I think will be very surprised by that because you have built a reputation for being, if not a Holocaust denier, then somebody constantly questioning in a downward way the number of Jews who were murdered.
That doesn't appear to be what your position is now.
Bro, he's trolling.
No, and here's what I would like to see in my career.
When I started my show, it started with a good faith inquiry where I was questioning a lot of these narratives.
And I said, what is the answer on the other side?
But what I found is that the answer was criminalized.
So when you would talk about anything regarding Jews, Israel, the Holocaust, you could be in favor of the official narrative on those things.
If you went against, you were banned, censored, and in some countries, jailed.
And so I actually haven't made up my mind on that because that's not really a matter of interest to me.
And there's a lot of analysis and scholarship on both sides of the issue.
And I've read both sides of the issue.
And honestly, unfortunately, it's hard to judge because there has never been, there's never been a debate on it.
And there's never been a debate because of the stigma, because of the censorship.
And I think that leads a lot of people to say, well, what do they have to hide?
Because you can say on your show, well, I'm personally against Holocaust denial laws, yet they still persist and the social consequences still persist.
And I think that that is the anomaly.
And people have to wonder, okay, why is it that way?
And what I said in that clip is the reason the Holocaust casts a long shadow is because it confers a political benefit upon organized Jewry.
That is what they always fall back on.
They cannot be criticized.
They cannot be named.
They cannot be talked about lest there be another Holocaust.
And no other tragedy is treated that way.
And no other ethnic group has a get out of jail free card.
Just play that.
Anti-Semitism and Holocaust.
You can do whatever you want and defend all your actions.
That's the part that people are getting upset with.
That's the problem.
I don't know any right-minded person who believes that Jewish people weaponize the Holocaust for their own personal get out of jail free or whatever you called it.
You don't know anyone that does that?
Come on, dude.
I'm sure there are some people that do that, but it's such a ridiculous generalization.
You know, the truth is that most Jewish people have lost relatives in the Holocaust.
In fact, I want to play you, I want to play you two clips.
One is where you talk about Adolf Hitler.
Hitler was a pedophile and kind of a pagan.
It's like, well, he was also really fucking cool.
So, you know, time to grow.
We're not children anymore.
Am I right?
Am I right?
Am I right, boys?
Am I right?
Let's go.
He was also really fucking cool.
You regret saying that?
Saying a fact?
No, no, that's absolutely true.
You think Hitler was very fucking cool?
Yes.
I do.
Let's go.
And I'm tired of pretending he's not.
Well, this is the problem, you see.
It's a bit like when you just say, I'm a racist.
You're a racist who thinks Hitler's cool, but you're not anti-Semitic.
If you're a Jewish person watching this, what are they thinking?
I'll tell you what they're thinking because I've got a friend of mine called Danny Finkelstein, who, when he heard I was interviewing you, he's a Times journalist in the UK, very eminent journalist here and author, who wrote a book about his own family's experiences at the hands of Hitler and Stalin, because he also told Tucker Carlson that you admire Stalin.
But let's just take what Danny said here.
Hi, Piers.
It's Danny Winkelstein here.
As you're interviewing Nick Fuentes, you might try suggesting to him that he reads my book, Hitler, Stalin, Mum and Dad.
It's called Two Roads Home in the United States.
Since he says he's on Team Hitler, you might like to ask him about the fact that Hitler arrested my mum, tried to starve my mum to death, did starve my grandmother to death, sent my great aunt to the gas chamber, my great uncle, my cousin.
Here we go.
My grandmother on my father's side.
Here we go.
One out of the way.
Wow, well, well, well.
Oh, my God.
So bad up.
The noticing is going on.
No, shut it down.
Do to shut it down.
Do to shut it down.
No.
Wow Bruh Although I haven't ascertained yet whether you are joking when you say that Hitler was very fucking cool.
Are you joking, or do you actually think he was very fucking cool?
The most genocidal monster of the last 150 years.
Yeah, the thing is, my generation, we're just done with the pearl clutching.
Well, you might be, but then your generation hasn't gone through what Danny Finkelstein's family went through.
So maybe the pearl clutching has a way to go for families whose family members.
Yeah, we got all that.
Me, mum, me, mom.
Like, we're, you know, I don't even know who this person is.
Why is this person talking to me?
This old British guy is saying, me, mom got killed by Hitler.
Because he doesn't find it funny when you say Hitler's very fucking cool.
I don't care.
I know you don't care.
That's fine.
You don't have to care.
But he does care.
Does that guy care about America?
Does that guy care about me and my country and my family?
No.
He cares what you, a prominent conservative in America, has to say about Adolf Hitler.
Now, what do you mean by Hitler is very fucking cool?
Because I think he's very fucking a monster.
And that's a clip.
I think he's very fucking a monster.
Do you hear yourself?
Yeah, I mean, can we all grow up?
Can we all grow up?
He murdered 12 million children.
He murdered 12 million people.
What is very fucking cool about that?
Tell me.
The edits, it's just cool.
The uniforms, the parades, the stage cool as a guy.
You look at World War II and it's fascinating and it's interesting and it's compelling and it's cool.
And, you know, we're just tired of saying these kinds of things.
We want to talk like real people and give our honest opinions.
And then we, and then we literally get an old Jewish guy from England who's going to say, oh, that dot very funny, mate.
Me mum.
And it's like, shut up.
Like, you know, no one is in favor of genocide.
So let's just get that out of the way.
Exactly.
In favor of a Holocaust or genocide.
Do you think if half your family?
Do you think if half your family had been wiped out by very fucking cool Hitler, you'd still think he was very fucking cool.
Bros did a genocide, but they're still crying about that event.
Despicable monster who murdered 12 million people, who targeted people because they were disabled or Jewish or Roman Egypt or whatever it may be.
And that he systematically destroyed people, incinerated them in gas chambers.
Do you think that you would find it very fucking cool if your family had been through that?
Or do you think you would find it very fucking disgusting?
There we go.
And perhaps moderate the number of times you laugh about it or want to joke about it or want to abuse someone like Danny Finkelstein, who's written incredibly powerful books about what happened to his extended family at the hands of the Nazis and your other hero, Stalin.
See, my point to you, Nick Fuentes, is that in parts of this interview, you try to come across as moderate, but every now and again, the mass slips and it slipped again here with what you say about Hitler.
There's nothing very fucking cool about Hitler.
We know that from history now.
We know what he did.
You've already conceded that he murdered at least six million Jews.
So when you say he's very fucking cool, Jewish people watch this and go, this guy's disgusting.
It's 7 million people.
I've never seen it about someone who perpetrated such an evil.
And what's the real answer?
Why do you?
Is it just for clicks?
Is it for money?
Is it just for fun?
For shits and giggles?
What is it?
What motivates you to say something like, Hitler was very fucking cool?
Bruh.
It's for this.
It's for all of this.
And the lack of self-awareness is amazing.
You're a boomer.
You're a 60-year-old boomer.
And we've spent maybe three minutes on you saying, he's a really fucking monster.
He incinerated people.
This, this.
And I'm sitting here saying it's not that serious.
It's not that deep.
And that's what I'm getting at.
Not that serious.
Do you want to say more about that?
You're not a kid yourself anymore.
You're not a teenager.
I know.
You're nearly 30, to be clear.
Okay.
You're a fully formed adult who has a brain, right?
And at some stage, that brain has taken you off these rules.
Is this an interview or is this a lecture?
Can I respond to what you're saying?
I want you to explain why you think it's fine to say how fucking cool Hitler is and to dismiss the very powerful 90 seconds from a British journalist who lost a lot of family members to the Nazis in such a callous, dismissive manner.
Wow, wow.
I don't think it's powerful.
I think we've been hearing that our entire lives.
Okay.
The Schindler's list.
Let's just be honest.
The propaganda is over the top.
We have been in America's.
What about the Schindler's list?
Tell me about the Schindler's list.
Well, tell me about the Schindler's list.
I'll tell you about it.
We have been browbeaten as a people, as Americans, as Westerners, for our entire lives.
And do you know what this has done?
It has taken away any sense of pride, any sense of love for our own civilization.
We have been made the villain in our own story.
We have been made because, well, let's just be clear.
It doesn't begin and end with Hitler is a monster.
This has been the political narrative, which is why we have thrown open the borders.
This is a political narrative, which is why we're not, we can't be a conservative society as a whole anymore.
Why we can't be proud of Europeans, why we can't be proud of being Christian, because they've told us if you're too white and too proud and too Christian, it's going to lead to a Holocaust.
And so, my generation, our entire lives, honestly, Nick, it's true.
And that's why people like me.
That's why I'm popular because this is bullshit.
Honestly, it's a crock.
We don't want to hear any more me mom and me dad.
No, no, listen.
What you just said is a crock of shit.
And you know, it's called the open society and in your gut, you know, it is.
You weaponize this stuff.
You know, you weaponize this stuff for money, but you know, when you say something like what you're saying, you're banned from banking and credit cards.
You know who you're talking to?
I do it for money.
How much money you make?
By the way, your country, your company's worth $100 million.
I was banned from Bank of America.
And you shouldn't have been.
But I am.
So don't tell me I'm doing it for money.
Ask me my opinion about that.
I'll tell you, you shouldn't have been, right?
I don't agree with that.
What happened to you?
Then don't say I'm doing it for money because you know that full well.
And you say it's how much money to be a grifter, I'd be like you.
How much money?
How much money are you making?
I'm making a lot of money now.
Yeah.
Now that I'm the number one live streamer in America, because people agree with me more than they agree with you.
We're tired of hearing about slavery and the Holocaust and Jim Crow.
We're done hearing about that.
You guys over here.
I'm not done hearing about that.
Okay, well, you know, your generation's on the way out and Generation Z is coming up and we're finished with that.
We're ready to take our country.
I've got three sons.
I've got three sons anymore.
I've got three sons and they don't share your views about slavery and about the Holocaust.
They can have decency and compassion and humanity about some of the worst things that have happened in the last 150 years or more.
They can do that and they can also have concerned views about issues like immigration and other issues.
The two things are not mutually incompatible.
You can have different views about different things.
It's your lack of humanity and compassion for people about things like the Holocaust, about slavery.
It's that people find so contemptible.
And I don't understand why you need to do that.
Again, I just ask you: is your motivation financial?
Is your motivation for fun?
What is the motivation to saying these outlandish things, which you don't need to say, and which I suspect, I don't know, I suspect a lot of it is performative.
So what is the motivation?
I'm an iconoclast.
The Holocaust is not my religion.
And it is treated like a religion.
It is treated like a religion with dogma, with blasphemy laws.
And that secular religion says, and you say, you say that's a crock of shit.
It's intentional.
It's called the open society by Karl Popper.
It's by these architects of the liberal order after World War II.
They got together and they said, how can we make sure that Hitler never happens?
How can we make sure that totalitarianism never happens again?
And they came up with the consensus, which is that we need to take down nations, religions, fathers, the authoritarian personality.
We need to be empathetic and altruistic.
We need to be diverse and pluralistic.
And that experiment isn't working.
And I'll tell you the truth.
Right now, and you can laugh at this, you can scoff at this.
Our people are being genocided in our country.
50% of the live births in the United Kingdom and in the United States are non-white.
In 100 years, my ancestors, your ancestors, your kids who are so empathetic and compassionate, they're going to be a minority.
They're going to be a minority in maybe a Muslim country, an Indian country, an Hispanic country.
And these Jewish people that are 100 years old talking about my grandparents and the Holocaust, they don't care about that.
Actually, they like to see it.
At the SPLC, they're literally counting down the days until whites are a minority in America.
So forgive me if I don't believe them when they talk about compassion.
There's a genocide going on right now.
It's not against Jews.
How many Christians are there?
How many Christians are there in the world?
Like me.
1.
2 billion.
How many Jews are there?
15 million.
Okay.
So with a straight face, you're going to tell me the world is being overrun by the Jewry, by 15 million people, when there are over a billion Christians.
There is a genocide of Christians like poor old Nick Fuentes going on at the hands of these 15 million Jews.
Really?
See, this attitude is why you're losing.
When you say white people, they're losing to white people.
Who am I losing to?
You're seeing it.
Mass migration.
Oh, you're losing to me.
We are losing as a civilization of mass migration.
And here's the difference.
In Israel, they have my politics.
In Israel, they want to maintain a Jewish majority.
If they had it their way, it would only be Jewish people.
They're fighting like hell so that Jewish people can have as much territory, a Jewish state.
They can be proudly Jewish in their own land.
Whereas in America, we are being besieged by 10 million illegal immigrants in four years.
And then whites and Christians are going to be the minority.
And that's true in Canada, Australia, all the countries in Europe.
So you could say there's 2 billion people, but what's the proportionality?
What is the percentage of people being born that are white?
Where's the arrow pointing?
Where are we going to be in 50 years?
In 50 years, there might be in Israel.
In 50 years, there isn't going to be Christianity.
You don't believe people should get married, right?
I think people should get married.
I'm a Christian.
But you're basically anti-marriage, really.
You've talked about this.
You're talking about talking about why genocide is not available.
Well, I'm coming to the same part because you seem very resistant to the idea of marriage.
You've never got married.
You've talked very interestingly about hen-paid husbands.
Let's take a look.
That's true.
Guys get to a certain age and they're like, you know what?
Women suck.
Like, they're talking too much.
They're not hot anymore.
Like, you're fat.
You're chubby.
You're not as hot as you think you are.
You fucking talk too much.
You're a bitch.
So we'll obviously get to the brazen misogyny part of that a little later, but I'm just curious.
On the terrible genocide going on of white people.
On the other hand, you want people effectively to stop going near women because they all turn out to be so ghastly.
So they shouldn't presumably procreate.
So how does that work?
I mean, aren't you with your rhetoric actively encouraging men not to do it, Jack with these ghastly women?
Therefore, you have to have more children.
Therefore, you are contributing to the diminishing white population.
I'm confused.
I tell my followers to get married all the time.
I tell them that it's best for everybody to get married.
And I think that's the only way that you can have sex.
I think that's the only illicit way as a Catholic.
Why don't you get married?
Why don't you get married?
I'll get married later.
It's been difficult for me because people are shooting at me at my house.
I don't know that I don't want to have kids and a wife.
You know, my wife would be screaming about that.
Me, you know, I have to be able to take risks and be able to say these things.
It's difficult to bring a family into a life that's like that.
But for my followers, I tell them to get married.
But what's happening with women?
You literally just told your followers.
Hang on.
In that clip, you literally told followers, women, they get old, they get fat, they get ugly, they get very annoying.
So where's the incentive to get married to women?
There isn't one.
You're actively telling them you're extrapolating.
You're extrapolating a lot.
We can complain.
Just quoting you back yourself again.
No, no, but you're extrapolating and saying, well, you say women are annoying.
So, therefore, what's the incentive?
We have to do it in spite of the fact that they are annoying.
We have to do it in spite of the fact that they talk too much.
We can get them to lose weight.
We can put them on peptides.
Back to the kitchen.
We can get them to the promised land.
But it's going to be a lot of people.
Do you think this view of women may be why none of them want to go near you?
Oh, you should see my DMs.
It is quite the opposite.
They're called the Groy Bets, and I'm actually batting them away.
Granted, not all of them are attractive.
Some of them are attractive.
Are you actually just to clear up one of the many theories about you?
I've no idea what the answer is, and you haven't got to answer.
But are you actually attracted to women?
Bruh.
I am attracted to women.
You're not gay.
Bruh.
No.
But I will say that women are very difficult to be around.
Facts.
There's that.
And do you think they should have the right to vote?
Hell no.
I do not.
Fuck yeah.
Well, yeah, absolutely.
So basically, you're just a misogynist old dinosaur for a young guy.
Coco!
I'm the boomer!
I'm the boomer here.
But actually, you're a 27-year-old dinosaur, aren't you?
Aren't you, Nick Floyentis?
All women.
All women are annoying.
All women grow old.
They all get fat.
Says the guy, have you ever had sex?
No, absolutely not.
Wow.
Says the guy who's never got laid.
Good one.
That's the thing, though.
You boomers, it's a fairly fair.
Oh, you're an expert in women.
Given you've never got laid?
Yeah, we are going back to the Stone Age.
You're absolutely right.
This, you know, you're talking about empathy and your kids are empathetic and they would never laugh at a joke about the Holocaust and you're a misogynist.
You're a simp yourself.
You're totally headed.
That's the problem.
So yeah, we already know.
Oh, man.
Women want to be raped.
And when I say raped, I mean like that sounds bad when I say it like that.
But there's like a lot of women that really want a guy to beat the shit out of them.
But also they have to pretend.
But part of it is they have to pretend like they don't.
You think women want to be raped, do you?
That's what the studies show, Piers.
That is what the statistics have fantasies.
They have fantasies about it.
I don't think that they want to actually get raped, but there's a study out there.
Get ready for this.
It says 62% of women have rape fantasies.
And if you read anything that they're reading, if you watched what they're watching, what do you think 50 Shades of Gray is about?
What do you think Florida is about?
I mean, that's just true.
You think women want to have the shit beaten out of them, as you said?
Yeah, and it's very disturbing, but it's true.
Do you think your views on women might change if you actually ever had a relationship with one or had sex and actually had a proper relationship?
I mean, people say the reason you're so angry about women is you're basically an incel.
Bruh.
I'm not angry about it.
You sound very angry.
You sound very, very angry about women.
They get passionate.
It's an issue.
You're not passionate about it.
You're actually, you're sounding very bitter about women.
He's nicer about it than me.
A terrible disservice to you.
But when you don't have relationships, you don't have sex.
When are they doing these terrible things to you?
This made you so hateful towards women.
What do you saw as niggas?
Back to the kitchen.
I think that was a hateful clip.
I think I was laughing.
I said they want men to beat the shit out of them.
And that's just true.
I mean, when you look at the state of modern women, all they do is lay in their bed, doom scroll.
They're chilling out.
They're getting a little, look, they're getting a little fat.
It is what it is.
I don't know what the average weight is, but they're getting a little heavy.
And any guy that is playing the field will tell you that.
I mean, and I and I know a lot of the Chads.
I am an incel.
Friends with a lot of Chads, like Bradley Martin Clavicular.
They agree with me.
You know, there's sort of like this alliance between the guys that don't have sex and the guys that get the most sex.
We know what women are about.
It's the guys in the middle, guys like you in the middle.
It's the beta male orbiters that say, she's amazing, you're a misogynistic pig.
Because I don't know what that is, I guess.
Let me explain to you.
Let me explain to you what I think it is.
I think when a 27 year old guy who's never got laid, never had a meaningful relationship with a woman, says that women shouldn't be allowed to vote, they should stay at home uh, that all they do is fantasize about being raped and being beaten up, that's what they want.
That they're annoying, that they get fat, that they get ugly yeah, that's a misogynist.
Now you may not understand it because your knowledge of women is so incredibly tiny, but actually you are the embodiment of a misogynist.
It couldn't be clearer.
And if I was, if I was a, you know, in a way you have the deep-rooted misogyny of some of the actual boomers.
I know yeah, here you are, 27 years old and most of the current studies show that a lot of men are really disenfranchised from society, no longer have physical relationships with women if they've ever had them never associate with women and build up instinctively misogynist views about women.
And I, I fear you're in that position.
You're just a bit of a lonely guy who wants to get laid right and can't, for whatever reason, and it's made you bitter about women and I.
I don't know where that's where that's come from, but it's fascinating.
No see, here's the thing.
First of all, you're very caught up in the labels.
It's always, you're a racist, you're a misogynist.
You're saying, these words mean something to me.
Well hey, you gave yourself.
Can I respond?
You gave yourself the label.
You said, I am a racist.
I didn't give you the label.
You said, Nick The Wentes, I am a racist.
Calm down, did you or didn't you?
It's okay, did you?
Yeah yeah, but but I didn't give you the label.
You did.
Why are you yelling at me?
Because you're trying to do something that didn't happen.
You said I gave you the label of being a racist.
No, you did.
You said i'm a racist.
You gave yourself the label.
You're gonna have to tone it down a little.
All right, you're gonna have to bring it down a notch and relax bro.
It's trigger interview okay, please calm down.
All I said is, you're hung up.
I didn't say you gave me that.
I maybe I did, you did.
But here's what I mean.
What I mean is okay.
What I mean is you're just hung up on say, on proving you're okay, you're a misogynist, okay, you're a racist okay, you denied the holocaust and i'm just.
I'm not about the labels.
You didn't deny the holocaust, as I said to you.
Look Nick, as I said to you, I just wanted to go over the stuff that you know everyone uses out there about you and get you to respond.
And we're getting we are getting, I think, a long way in this interview.
Right, you didn't deny the holocaust.
You accepted there's been a holocaust of at least six million Jews.
That is amazing.
That is significant.
You did more.
You did admit you're a racist.
It's over now.
You sell out a thought process about women, which is the purest definition of misogyny that I've ever seen.
And you said you're not gay.
So we're getting somewhere.
Yeah.
Well, look, and I own the labels, okay?
But I just don't care that much about that.
That's right.
I feel like the whole thing is.
I'm not saying you're like a weird.
I'm not saying you have to care.
Nick, you don't have to care about any of it.
I promise you, right?
That's not why I got you on the show.
I wanted to give you a fair crack, which I think I have.
We've gone over a lot of stuff.
We've got a bit more to go on.
I genuinely don't think I've ambushed you with anything you couldn't have been expecting.
No, I don't think I've been overly hostile.
In fact, when you've asked me to calm down, I've calmed down.
I don't want to have a hostile, angry, shouty match with you.
I simply want you to spell out exactly what you've meant about all these things and people can then be the judge of them.
So let's take another break and we'll come back and talk about Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and others.
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Team, the same year as Trump was inaugurated for his first term in office, you supported him at that time, but you've grown increasingly disillusioned.
I think it'd be fair to say.
Let's play a recent clip from you about Trump.
We played this game in the first term.
We're 10 years in.
And you still have these people.
I hate to say it, but they're just like in denial.
And they're like, okay, everybody, let's all go on Twitter and let's tell Trump, don't screw over your voters.
Okay.
Hey, Trump, don't hire John Radcliffe in the CIA.
Like, what are we doing?
It's, we lost.
It's over.
The time to make demands was during the election when he needed the votes.
He's a lame dub president and he doesn't need anything from us.
He's not even on Twitter.
He's on Truth Social.
So what are you talking about?
We're going to all rally and tell him, don't hire yet another neocon.
Now, over the weekend, you posted this on X. You said performative cruelty is the perfect phrase to characterize the Trump admin and the mood of the MAGA movement.
In order to compensate for his compromises and failures, Trump has to fall back on mean spiritedness to appeal to the basis instincts of its followers.
It's really sad.
I mean, do you think you're the best person, Nick Fuentes, to lecture people about performative cruelty?
Why?
Are you accusing me of being cruel?
Is that what that is?
Yeah.
How am I cruel?
You're cruel about black people.
You're cruel about women.
You're cruel about old people.
You're very performative.
Okay.
I don't think I'm performative.
If anything, everyone else is performative.
I'm authentic.
You know, whatever you want to say about me, it's real.
It's from the gut.
But yes, I do think it's performative.
And what I mean by that is, you know, when they're doing the deportations, they know the deportations are not where the base wants them to be.
They deported.
The figures are disputed, but from my data, it's 300,000 in the year, which is not a massive deportation.
They know the base is unhappy with that.
So what do they do?
The deportations that they are carrying out, they do a big spectacle and they arrest everybody and they film it and they put a hype at it.
And there's a meanness in there.
They played that song from Sabrina Carpenter or something, and they make it a joke.
They make a glib.
And they do that because they're not delivering on the promise.
So they compensate by doing it meaner, edgier, more mean-spirited, so that the base will overlook the fact that it's not happening.
And I think that's by definition performative cruelty.
You can call me a hypocrite, but it's definitely true about what they're doing in the administration.
You went to see Trump at Mar-a-Lago with Ye for dinner.
What was that like?
It was very interesting.
They're my two heroes.
Ye is my hero.
Trump is my hero.
Even though he's very disappointing, I still have a personal hero of mine.
And he's a remarkable person.
It was a great conversation.
We got along pretty well.
He liked me.
I liked him.
It was the love fest.
I mean, he got attacked afterwards for supping with the white supremacist devil.
I mean, do you accept you are a white supremacist?
No, no, absolutely not.
The white nationalists.
Big difference.
You don't think white people are superior to black people?
No, I'm a Christian.
So I believe everybody is equal before God.
Including women?
No.
Yes.
So you give women equal rights.
Nope.
No.
Let's go.
Okay.
So you just talked a little bit about bullshit, didn't he?
No.
What is why are you like mad about this?
No.
Bro, you're talking human value.
Human value, retard.
Women have equal human value, but we are different.
Two genders?
It's your view.
Do you think there's two genders?
I do think there are two genders, yes.
Okay.
And so you mean there's distinction.
There are two distinct genders.
I think we should all have.
And I would argue women are more vulnerable, so you have to take care of them even more so.
This dude is trying to be an idiot.
The same right.
Only in the law.
Do you think the Catholic Church's teachings reflect that?
I do.
Yeah.
There's no female priests.
Have you ever seen that?
Do you think that the Catholic Church thinks all women should be deprived of vote?
Yes.
Yeah, I think so.
That's how it's always been, bro.
I think they do.
Yeah.
You think the Catholic Church position is women shouldn't be allowed to vote?
Yes.
I think so.
Yeah.
For sure.
No, it's bullshit.
Like every other religion of the book.
It should be.
So if you were Pope, that's what you do.
You could be Pope because you're a celibate.
Good one.
That's true.
And I'm also from Chicago, like the Pope.
But look, I mean, women, it says in the Bible that women have no authority over men and they can't teach men.
And that's why there's no female priests.
There's a lot of things in the Bible.
I mean, do you think you take every word of the Bible as sacrosanct?
Well, yeah, it's inspired scripture.
That's all of it.
I mean, this is just now theological debate.
Well, it is Catholic doctrine that women should not lead and teach.
I mean, you're not interacting with what I'm saying.
Why can't women be priests?
They should be.
Okay, well, I'm not Catholic.
Many things I disagree with the Catholic Church.
What?
It's contrary because the whole basis of being Catholic is accepting the pony.
You can be a member of a disagree with parts of that religion.
Get the fuck out of here, Nigga.
That's only reasonable.
You could be, well, yeah, I mean, you could see true.
If you're an extremist, you can't.
Obviously, you never deviate.
That's just not rigid.
Oh, no, Pierce slopped.
You're an extremist.
You officially lost.
Even the Constitution's been amended, was it, 27 times?
People talk about official L.
That was easy.
Thank you.
Official Ellie.
That was easy.
This is intellectually.
This is very theology.
Okay.
But it's fine.
Where were we?
We're talking about Trump.
Wayne Knighting for women's rights.
I think women should have the same rights as you and I. You don't.
That's fine.
You stupid.
Put on the pink hat, bro.
Put on the pink hat for the for the march, for the women's march.
Are we going to see you at the women's march protesting for women's rights and all that?
I think women should have equal rights to men.
Period.
You carry tampons in case your female friends get a period or something.
Like, that's crazy.
I'd have no problem giving a female friend a tampon.
Would you?
I don't suppose you've ever seen a tampon, are you?
Gross.
Absolutely not.
You think tampons are gross?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Period blood.
Yeah, it's kind of gross.
Wow.
Are you into that?
You like that?
You're going to see a lot of tampons.
I don't think you've ever seen it.
I've seen them.
I've seen them before.
You've been that close to a woman.
Really?
No, I've seen him.
Look, I've seen videos to live with women.
I've seen them around the world.
I bet you've seen videos, haven't you?
What?
What are we doing here?
Yeah.
You really hate that.
I'm not sure.
You're more impressed that I'm a misogynist than you are about anything.
I'm actually more exercised about your blatant self-admitted racism than I'm about anything.
But the misogyny runs a close second.
Let me ask you about Tucker Carlson because you had a long sit-down with.
I guess he doesn't like that effect.
Oddly, I like Tucker.
I was with him last week in London.
But he gave me a harder time than he gives you.
And afterwards, he was more critical.
And then you said this about Tucker.
He's a handler.
He handles people.
That's what he does.
He's a fucking liar and a handler.
He goes.
Oh, Pierce is about to try to slide for Tucker now.
Pierce is about to slide for Tucker right now.
Here we go.
This tourist.
I just traveled to all these countries.
And, you know, here we go.
I don't trust him.
And I don't, and I don't care, you know, maybe that alien.
Pierce and Tucker's.
Pierce and Tucker are friends, guys.
I'm not going to be a part of it.
I'm not going to be a party to whatever that is.
Whatever that CIA bullshit is, I'm not going to be a part of it.
So, you know, now that I've heard enough from Tucker and I've heard enough from other people and I've seen enough, this guy's not who he says he is.
Not an ally.
Stay the fuck away from me.
You're a weird dude.
You're weird.
See, what would have been great is if you said that to him when you were sitting opposite him.
Well, when I was sitting opposite him at the dinner and in the interview, he was nothing but nice.
He was very nice to me and very cordial.
And he didn't call me an anti-Semite and he didn't even press me on it at all.
And I thought he would.
And I almost wanted him to.
He was nothing but nice.
And we had a great time.
We had a really great dinner, really great interview.
And I felt really good about it.
And the next week on my show, I said, he really surprised me.
He's great.
And then every interview he's done since, all he does is call me an anti-Semite.
He goes, well, I hate his anti-Semitism.
And, you know, I wonder why people like him.
And so I just think that's two-faced.
So after that experience, it kind of turned me off.
I didn't like that.
But he's going to do what he's going to do.
He's still a nice guy, but I think he's two-faced.
What about Candace Owens?
Oh, you had a sit-down with her.
There we go.
She called you out on a few of your more incendiary comments.
You've been attacking her quite virulently recently.
What's going on there?
Well, you know, it's me and her.
We're so complicated.
We're on and off.
It's very passionate on both sides.
I think there's this intense desire to be friends, but a frustration where we disagree with each other.
There's a rivalry.
But I thought we were going to have a friendly conversation.
And then she kind of did the same thing.
We're going to go on a show during the war with Iran.
We're literally in the middle of a war.
And she texts me the day before the United States bombed Ford O and she said, Would you like to come on my show?
I said, Absolutely.
I said, Is this going to be about Iran?
She goes, I don't do setups.
I said, Yeah, let's do it.
I come on the show, and then she's like got this weird, hostile demeanor.
She's doing the clip thing.
Then she puts it behind a paywall.
It was ridiculous.
So that really was not nice.
And then I think this whole Charlie Kirk thing, I think she's gone insane.
I think she's absolutely lost her mind.
So I feel sorry for her husband.
What did you feel when Charlie Kirk was assassinated?
Where were you when you heard about it?
I was at my house, and a friend of mine who was actually at the event texted me and said, Charlie got shot.
I said, Who?
He said, Charlie Kirk.
I said, Oh my gosh, that's terrible.
And honestly, it was devastating.
I didn't like Charlie Kirk at all.
And we had an intense rivalry, and he hated me.
But honest to God, I was devastated.
I was emotionally affected by it.
I didn't even do a show that night because I was beside myself.
So it was rough.
I mean, it was hard to watch.
When you say you were beside yourself, I mean, you didn't, you hated him.
I didn't, I don't hate anybody.
I didn't hate him, but we, I really didn't like him.
I intensely disliked him.
And I didn't know that.
He called you Vermin, didn't he?
He did.
Yeah, he hated me also.
But you were still beside yourself when you heard what happened to him.
I was.
I was.
I thought it was, it was disgusting what was done to him, and it was tragic and it was horrifying.
Do you fear an attack like that on yourself?
If you up your own security because of this, because your profile has got exponentially higher since what happened to Charlie Kirk.
I have.
I have increased my security.
And, but, you know, something similar like that happened to me.
Someone came to my house with a gun about a year ago, almost exactly trying to kill me.
And he was shot and killed in my alleyway.
So I've had increased security for a while.
It's a bad time out there.
And I do believe it was a left-wing person that killed him.
I think it was a left-wing person that tried to kill me.
So, yeah, I take it very seriously.
Elon Musk said on his ex-platform that you're a Fed, that you're a paid-up hire of the government.
Is that true?
No.
You've never worked for the government in any capacity.
I've never talked to federal law enforcement.
And actually, I've testified to that fact under oath when I was subpoenaed by the Congress.
People leave that part out, but I got subpoenaed, I think, in January 2022, I think it was.
And I was deposed by the subcommittee, the House Select Subcommittee on January 6th.
And they asked me, did you speak with any federal law enforcement?
And under oath, I said, no, I've never had contact with them.
I've never turned over devices.
I made a whole video on this, guys, if you want to watch it on why it's retarded to say Nick is a Fed.
At the January the 6th.
From an actual Fed.
You're heard there shouting down your loud hailer, break down the barriers and disregard the police.
The Capitol belongs to us now.
What did you mean by that?
I think it's pretty self-explanatory.
The Capitol belongs to the people.
Disregard the police.
You don't support law and order?
No, I support law and order, but on that day, the police were brutal.
The police killed somebody, Ashley Babbitt.
And, you know, they were throwing people off of the rafters.
They killed multiple people.
And disregarding the police is the first step to anarchy, isn't it?
Well, I think the first step to anarchy is when the government rigs the election, which is what happened.
That is when the government loses its legitimacy and its enforcers, consequently, do also.
When it comes to government in 2020, there is no evidence the government rigged the election.
You know that.
You're a bright guy.
Well, let's talk about it.
You want to talk about the election of 2020?
Yeah.
I think Trump lost it fair and square.
I think he fought the wrong argument about the stolen election.
I've said to him, to his face, I agree.
The argument he should have said is that the deliberate suppression of things like the Hunter Biden laptop scandal from the media by social media, by big tech, was actually a deliberate attempt to subvert the result of the election.
And that's a much better argument because it's undeniable.
When the New York Post that had that exclusive were basically shadow banned off all social media for the two weeks before the election, that was an absolute disgrace.
And if I was Donald Trump, I would focus on that as being my main argument that that election was slanted against him.
When he goes off into saying that there was widespread rigging and voter systems were wrong, we've litigated all this now through various court cases.
Various Republican judges have ruled there was no rigging of that kind.
In fact, the American election system is accepted by most people around the world as being one of the best in the world, one of the most reliable.
So I just think he fought the wrong argument.
If he said the deliberate suppression of damaging stories to the Bidens, which could have swung the election, was outrageous and unacceptable, I'm 100% behind him.
But by building this spurious argument that it was all rigged through voting systems and so on, he lost me.
Well, I agree about the voting systems, but when they went into the machines, I think that was ridiculous.
However, what has to be accounted for is that in 2016, 35% of the votes were cast by mail.
Big problem.
In 2020, it was 70% because of the pandemic.
So you doubled the amount of votes that happened by mail.
They called it in-person early voting.
They called it a variety of different things.
And the other thing that they changed is they solicited the mail-in ballots.
So they sent ballots to people's houses.
And once you do that, I mean, you have absentee balloting normally, but it's a process.
You got to give your social security number, your ID.
They send it to you.
There's regulations in place.
This is an election where they double the amount of mail-in votes and they solicited, they send ballots to people's houses.
And when you do that, you break the chain of custody.
So they send the ballot out and then they tell people, return it at a 24-hour ballot drop site that's unsupervised.
There's thousands of them.
And they're going to hope that all the ballots that find their way into these drop boxes were filled out by the person that the ballot was intended for.
And I know that didn't happen.
I'll tell you why.
My uncle has been dead for 26 years.
He got a ballot in 2020.
It was mailed to my parents' house.
And you know that was happening in nursing homes.
You know, that was happening in apartment buildings.
But you also think that every independent body that has looked at this has concluded there was no widespread rigging, that it was a free and fair election, and Trump lost.
And the bottom line is he should stop going on about it anyway because he won back the White House in 2024 by your talk.
Okay, well, as you've been so keen to tell me, move on, right?
No one wants to look back too far.
That's a separate argument.
I mean, you can say that he should stop talking about it, but whether it was rigged or not is actually relevant to what happened on January 6th, because what happened on J6 is people were outraged about it.
People were furious that, by the way, there's never been an independent ballot audit in all the states where there was alleged to be rigging.
That has not happened.
And certainly it did not happen up until January 6th.
And people said, this is ridiculous.
They're stealing it.
You know, there's a lot of people who are.
If either you or Donald Trump or anybody else wants to show me, I said this to him when I interviewed him last.
If you show me the actual hardcore, incontrovertible evidence, then great.
I've never seen it.
Joe Rogan asked him.
He didn't produce it with Joe Rogan.
It's just never been produced.
But look, I'm going to label the point on that.
I suppose a more interesting question now, as your influence rises in the conservative movement in America, and there's a lot of splits going on amongst MAGA over a number of issues and about you, and you know this.
Is your split with Trump irrevocable?
Do you feel now as we head towards the year of the midterms that it's time to now look to who his successor will be?
And who do you think that person should be?
Well, it's not irrevocable, but I am very pessimistic about this administration.
And succession is something that I've been interested in for as long as I've been doing this show.
And I think it's very clear that they are grooming JD Vance to be that successor.
And by they, I mean Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Peter Thiel.
There seems to be an organization that was put in place roughly around 2022 when Peter Thiel was very active in the midterm elections.
He spent, I think, over $30 million, $15 million for Vance, $15 million for Masters, spent a lot of money in a lot of other congressional races, trying to unseat the Republicans that voted for impeachment in 21, and also building out a media market, building out a patronage network, funding things like Passage Press, Sovereign House, a number of other projects to create sort of like a self-contained media ecosystem.
And Vance is clearly the selected nominee.
That is who the interests want.
And they've been pushing for him very strongly.
So I think he's the heir apparent right now.
There's a forceful push.
I've heard good things about him.
I've heard bad things about him too.
And where I think it needs to go is I think we need to return to the message from 2016, what Trump said in the first election, which is we need to drain the swamp.
We need to get the money out of politics, the super PACs, the special interests, put America first in foreign policy and the wars, close the border and deport the illegals, and reindustrialize America, bring back manufacturing, bring back jobs.
We're in this cold war with China.
We need America to have productive capacity again.
We need America to have wealth.
So I think whoever is going to bring us back to that, that's who I'm going to support.
And I haven't seen enough from Vance yet.
You called JD Vance's wife a jeet.
What does that mean?
Thank you.
Why would you use that?
Thank you.
Come again.
Well, you want the honest answer?
Thank you.
Come again.
No, no, there's actually a different reason.
The reason why I said that, if you watch the whole show, did you watch that whole show?
No, no, but you've admitted you used that slur.
Curious why you would use that about a woman with her.
I'll tell you there's a really important reason why, and this is why context matters.
If you look online at the people that are supporting JD Vance the most, they are racist.
They're racist, also, let's say.
And they look at someone like myself.
I don't support JD Vance.
And they say, You're brown, you're a third worldist.
They are gleefully participating in the cruelty, you could say the performative cruelty of the Trump administration.
They say, You're going back.
You have 100 days until you're being deported.
You're going in a crystal.
And then they tell us to vote for JD Vance.
And so, all I did on the show is I said, You have basically racist chuds that post memes about Indians all day on Twitter, memes about third worldists and Palestinians, even.
But then they want to turn around and support a guy who has said on Twitter, How dare you say I'm racist?
I have non-white kids and I'm in an interracial marriage.
And all I said is that's I just said that's a little ironic.
I said that's hypocritical.
And Vance is going to have to explain to all of his supporters who have gassed him up as the real, you know, the real mass deportation candidate.
He's going to have to explain to them what's going on with that.
What is with the contradiction?
Because you don't feel any accountability for the millions of young people that will hear you use that slur and think it's fine to use it.
What are no, no, I think that's ridiculous.
Okay, thank you.
Come again.
Let's take a final break and come back with a little kind of summary of how you think this interview has gone for you.
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No bots.
View of how the interview has gone.
I think it was great.
Honestly, I think it was a tough interview.
You're a tough interviewer, but I don't think there were surprises.
I will not say it was an ambush because it wasn't.
I sort of anticipated that you would make some choices about how you wanted it to go, and I was fine with it.
So I thought it was terrific.
As a Catholic, you probably aware the Jerusalem Post has recently called on the Pope to openly condemn you.
Would it matter to you if the Pope did?
He's an American Pope, obviously.
It would be very disheartening, yes.
Why?
Because he's our spiritual leader.
He's the head of the church.
He's the vicar of Christ.
So if he condemned me, that would be very disheartening.
And it would depend upon what he would say exactly.
But yeah, I wouldn't like that.
I wouldn't like that.
If he condemned you because you've openly admitted to being a racist on this show, oh, you know, this racist, I would be disappointed if he said that because I think that word racist, it means something different to everybody.
And it's a fake term.
So I think that's just silly.
I think that's just semantic.
Have you ever been in love in your life?
Bro uh, this guy no, like romantically, never.
No, you tell me that's part of the problem.
What?
What's the problem?
Why you are the way you are?
Oh, and what's the way I am?
What are you trying to say?
I've given, i've given people two hours of the way you are, you're unashamed about a lot of it and I don't think I have a problem.
I think i'm uh cheerful boisterous, I look I, unlike you, i'm willing to be a little provocative.
Well, I guess you're willing to be provocative, but i'm willing to be very provocative and i'm a free thinker and I don't like to be tone policed, I don't like to be told about.
You know, people are going to tone police and play moral cop about.
You can't make this joke or you can't make this statement and uh, I think that's just about being intellectually open.
I, i'm a believer in openness, I completely agree I.
I think you should be perfectly free to express yourself exactly how you see fit.
My problem is how you see fit with some of the things that you say, and we've been through a lot of them and I think people who don't know you very well will have been shocked in parts and surprised in other parts uh, but in totality they can see you for what you are.
I think we've got a lot nearer to what the real Nick For Wentes is in the last two hours than we probably have seen from your other recent interviews, would you agree?
Uh no, I mean the the clip thing.
We've done the clip thing.
We've all seen the clip show.
Everyone's seen the clips.
You think you're the first one to do the ADL rap sheet, so here you said this.
And then here you said that i've been playing that game for 10 years.
So I this is honestly more of the same, to tell you the truth.
Nick For Wentes.
I appreciate you coming on uncensored.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for having me.
Well.
My thanks to Nick for went hilarious.
My thanks to the hundreds of thousands of you watching this special live episode 116k.
As I said during the interview, I think it was firm but fair, but you can all make up your own minds if you like.
Uh, what you do, please like and subscribe the channel so that we can keep doing it.
I'm back tomorrow.
Until then, whatever you're up to, keep it uncensored, all right.
So let's go read through some of these chats.
Get your chats in, guys.
You heard about Tempo's house getting shot up.
I did hear about that.
Option 013, just join.
You may have mentioned already, but the episode of Diddia's Process.
You can't catch it live.
Yeah, it'll process soon.
It's because it was like a nine-hour stream.
Dang Marin, do you ever sleep?
You're the only real ninja that enslaved themselves.
You know it.
Man dude, I did a nine hour stream last night.
I still got, came back and did another one right now with you guys.
Uh, I just got here at work right now.
What did I miss?
Yeah, you didn't miss much.
Nick should have said 1k.
Get the shift podcast with 20 gifted.
Thank you, mr Rain.
Uh crazy, I just asked you about my loan that he ended up on your show.
Yeah, British colonial rule 1757, 1947.
Mainly from chronic malnutrition disease, smaller famines, fair.
Uh, at this point Pierce belongs in the kitchen.
Facts, um Nick is cooking him.
Crungy donate, shout out to you, Crungy with the 30 bucks hung.
Epstein Myron, are you going to have an OSS Hanukkah stream next week?
Yeah, okay.
Myron, do you agree that white people should stay away from blacks?
Let's be honest.
Most black crimes committed against black people, blah, blah, blah.
Look, it's obviously within reason.
You got to have common sense, right?
Like, is every single black person going to come in and stab you and shoot you?
Of course not, dude.
Of course not.
So, you know, you just got to exercise a little bit of common sense.
Myron, I appreciate all you do, man.
Being real as fuck, having great values and saving improving lives in relationships.
Appreciate you, bro.
Timothy 212 says that women are not permitted to teach or have authority over men.
You should remain quiet.
Facts.
Myron, we need to not only repeal the 19th amendment, we got to burn it, burn it, and drop a full time.
Yeah, it's a bad, it's a bad amendment, bro.
G-Shot says live at work, W Monday.
WPierce Morgan definitely won the debate.
Oh, that's for Benjamin Nanyahu.
That's why he said.
Bro's like, yes, that's borrow worked.
Big Myron, appreciate that.
Ken Rose, six bucks.
This fucking idiot comes in and says something.
Dude, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Like, bruh, I don't even know what the hell you're talking about.
I don't know what you saw or whatever, but you're clearly way too invested in whatever you're trying to claim.
Let's see here.
Quick word, gentlemen.
On Instagram.
They demonetized me on YouTube.
They banned me on Facebook.
They banned me on Twitch.
The ADL and the SBLC put me on their hit list as well as Media Matters.
That tells you everything you need to know.
They don't want you to hear what I have to say.
And that's exactly why the OSS Army exists.
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Bam.
Yeah, man.
We litdy.
We litdy, guys.
No, that was good stuff.
Let me read some here.
Repeal the 19th Amendment, hoodie.
Maybe.
Freeology, American.
I think Trump is playing a role so he can do what he needs to do for us Americans.
The J-Power is that great.
He's just hiding in plain sight.
I think it's very hard to do, but he is doing it.
He can't talk out loud about what do you think?
I don't know, bro.
The whole 5D chess thing is a lot of cope, dude.
You know, the reality is that Trump's done some things well and he's done other things terribly.
And people forget that the president is never, you're never going to be 100% satisfied to the president.
Like, you're always going to be, you know, I think if you get like half of what you want, that's considered a W. You know what I mean?
You guys are not politicians are.
They say what they got to say to get elected.
So if you get at least 50% of what you want, that's actually a W.
So, anyway, guys, I'm going to call it there.
I'm dead.
I did not sleep since last night, but I saw that they were alive.
So I said, fuck it, let's go.
We got to get on there.
They went back and forth.
Nick didn't like the contention honestly started right here.
And I'll kind of rewind this back for you guys so you can see it.
Prince, and it's about proportionality.
And every will by this, I'm progressive.
Then she got stabbed in the neck.
You don't like black people who.
I do want to finish my point about yay.
I'm trying to figure out what time stamp was.
But long story short, Pierce said that Nick had said something about his parents saying, hey, we don't go to black restaurants, whatever.
And Pierce brought that up and Nick on Mac is like, look, dude, like, my dad still works.
Like, this is, you know what I mean?
You're taking out of context what I said in that video, blah, blah.
So that's kind of how the, you know, first he got his, Nick's background, then he started getting into the more contentious stuff.
Beckin says, repeal 19 Durags, maybe.
What do you think about Candice O and CPSA?
I haven't been tuning in as much this week.
I am not so sure of what's going on with that whole thing.
I'm actually going to watch one of Ian Carroll's videos here in a second to kind of get updated on it because I've not been coming up, not been studying the Charlie Kirk.
Like, guys, I've been trying to stay away from covering the Charlie Kirk case because I just, I don't know.
It just bothers me covering that case, bro.
You know what I mean?
I kind of feel like I'm disrespecting him by like keep talking about it, you know, someone that's deceased.
So, you know, obviously I did coverage in the beginning, but I think at this point, man, you know, at least from my perspective, I'm going to let the man rest, bro.
So unless there's like something breaking on the assassination or something like that, you know, I'm going to keep it, you know, out.
But anyway, guys, love you, Ninjas.
I'll see you guys probably tonight for Fresh of Fit Money Mondays, and we will have an after hours.
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