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Oct. 8, 2025 - MyronGainesX
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How Oct 7, 2023 Changed EVERYTHING With Sulaiman Ahmed!
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Every single time, every single crime, every single lie, early lie.
Every single hour, every single day, every single night, I know it's hard to believe.
It's double forest, not one tree, and it's every branch and leaf, they're born to deceive.
But I'm telling you the truth: it's not just one or two, it's every single Jew, they all hate you.
And it really breaks my heart that their lies are off the charts.
And they only bring us harm, you gotta get stars.
So if you want to be safe and don't want to get replaced, it's best you start being based, or you'll get it.
Every single time, every single crime, every single lie, early life.
Every single hour, every single day, every single night.
early life.
I know it's hard to accept that all the ones you've met Lie with every single breath, they want you dead.
But you must not be weak.
Just open your eyes and see.
They always exploit the me.
See their vampire tea.
And it's gonna make you cry to learn.
Your life is full of lies.
And the face was a disguise.
But you and I. So if you want to live and protect all of your kin, you have to grow thick skin, or we want every single time.
Every single crime, every single lie.
Early life.
Every single hour, every single day, every single night.
You'll be lying You'll be
lying You'll be lying You only pick on me because I'm Jewish.
Stop being a jealous loser and go get a job.
I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God If I don't run your media, someone else will
If I don't edit Wikipedia, someone else will, if I don't limit your reach, someone else will, if I don't censor speech, someone else will, if I don't blow up your kids, someone else will, if I don't attack you as a ship, someone else will, if I don't steal your things, someone else will, if I don't run payo rings, it's not my fault that I have to do this.
You only pick on me because I'm doing it.
Stop being a jealous loser and go get a job.
I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God If I don't steal your land, someone else will If I don't engage in scale, someone else will.
If I don't buy your politician, someone else will.
If I don't do false flag missions, someone else will.
If I don't control your pain, someone else will.
If I don't crush people with tanks, someone else will.
If I don't make the call, someone else will.
If I don't control it all, it's not my fault that I have to do this.
You only pick on me because I'm too wise.
Stop being a jealous loser and go get a job.
I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God I can do what I
want because I'm chosen by God So Happy Hannibal Day.
We blew our friends away and blamed Thomas today.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We knew it was coming.
But baby needed water drumming.
Final five years of genocide.
And still these pally won't die.
These terrorists are a big thorn in our side.
All these little babies are driving me crazy.
They are all hummus.
There are no babies.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We blew our friends away and blamed Hamas today.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We knew it was coming.
But baby needed water drumming.
The final solution to the Palestinian problem is let false flags happen so we could solve them.
We let humas fly over our walls and kill thousands of our friends.
Then our helicopters killed them all.
And we blame Thomas in the end.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We blew our friends away and blamed Thomas today.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We knew it was coming.
But baby needed war drumming Happy Hannibal Day Happy Hannibal Day!
We blew our friends away and blamed Hamas today!
Happy Hannibal Day!
Happy Hannibal Day!
We knew it was coming!
But baby, you need it, water, drumming.
All right, what's up, guys?
Welcome.
Hold on, let me turn up the stream here a little bit, turn up my volume.
Okay, we are live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the stream.
Welcome to the stream.
I'm here with Suleiman.
Let me actually move this chat out the way a little bit.
What's up, man?
You want to say what's up to the people?
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Good to be on your show and looking forward to speaking about October 7th.
All right.
Let me just adjust some of the sound real fast.
I know we're coming in a little low, probably, right, chat?
So let me.
We got a guest in the studio, which you guys don't see.
All right.
Sorry, I think I might have blew out your eardrums there for a second.
Sorry about that, guys.
But yeah, we got Slim on the house.
Can you say what's up to the people real quick on the mic?
Yeah, guys.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think they got the good readings right there.
Perfect, perfect.
I'm going to turn your mic up a little bit.
Cool.
All right.
I think we're good, man.
Yeah.
Sorry, guys, for the delay.
I was getting everything.
I was getting everything ready in the background.
As you guys know, I'm not the most technology-savviest person ever.
But we got it done.
Yeah, we're figuring it out.
Let's see here.
There's something else.
I'm trying to see here if there's something else I need to do.
Cool.
No, man, but take us.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Oh, by the way, if you guys are wondering, the name of that song was Hanimal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day by Lucas Gage.
You guys are wondering.
Here it is right here for you guys.
I'll give you guys the link real quick.
Happy Hannibal Day!
Because I already know you guys are going to ask me, yo, bro, we'll stay with that song, man.
Here, I got y'all right now.
I'll drop it in the chat for you guys.
Okay.
There it is.
So you guys can go ahead and enjoy.
But, but yeah, Suleiman, real quick, if you can introduce yourself to the people, whatever, for the people that might not be familiar.
Obviously, they see me join a bunch of your spaces and stuff like that.
But yeah.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
It's Suleiman.
I'm on X. I'm quite big on X. I've got a large following, as well as obviously I do the bigger spaces on X as well, talking about geopolitics, both in the mid, well, in the Middle East, United States of America, and the UK.
I'm a little bit more towards the left.
So I give a credit to Myron and a few others who are willing to have these conversations and speak to various people who maybe have different opinions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you just got done wrapping up an interview with Elijah.
How's that?
Yeah, that was really good.
That was more about Islam in the West.
Okay.
And kind of that idea, because obviously they kind of have like a certain perception of Islam.
And so it's always good to like have those conversations and break it down.
Because I think a lot of things is based on propaganda, misconceptions, and misunderstandings.
Yeah, like that they're going to destroy the world and everything, right?
Yeah, that, or there's an invasion, or they're trying to take over, and or this kind of like it's not compatible with the West and these type of conversations.
So I think they're like really important conversations to have because when you break it down, you say to the people, like, what do you actually mean?
Like, what aspects of it do you believe are not congruent with the Western society?
Or how is it Islam trying to take over?
Those arguments you find are not very strong and it's mainly based on something they've been taught or something they heard rather than something based on something cogent.
Gotcha.
Yeah, especially with what's going on in the UK, right?
They have like this.
What's the percentage?
Because here in the US, we're only like one to two percent of the population.
What about in the UK?
What's the population?
6%.
Okay.
So it's like triple.
Well, no, well, because America is a bigger country.
How many millions of people are Muslim there?
So it's 6% of 70 million.
So it's about 4 million.
There's only 70 million people there.
Yeah, yeah.
UK is not that big because we got like, I think 300 million here.
Yeah, you got about 350, right?
Yeah.
And then, you know.
And you guys have got more Jews here than Muslim takeover.
Let's not even consider, let's not even take into consideration that they control everything.
But just from a sheer numbers is from a number.
Yeah, we have the most here.
Yeah, outside of Israel.
Yeah, we got the most here.
But isn't it double?
Double Jews come back to Muslims in the U.S. I don't know if it's double, but I do know it's a lot.
We have them between New York City, LA, I think it might be more than Miami.
Yeah.
So yeah, they definitely have seven million Jews in the U.S., right?
Or seven or eight million Jews.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't a number.
Okay, so I guess we'll get into kind of like October 7th, man.
Obviously, the two-year anniversary.
Yeah.
There was a lot of things have happened since.
Do you kind of want to give everybody an overview of what happened on that day?
Or, you know, we could just start off wherever you want.
I know you have a lot to say about this.
And, you know, I've talked about October 7th quite a bit.
So maybe it'll refresh the audience to hear another view.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Of course.
So let's talk about the beheaded babies first.
Oh, sure.
Okay.
You don't even want to go over what happened that day or you want to go over we can do.
I mean, what happened on the day was the Palestinians broke into Israel.
And the reason they broke in was quite simple.
They wanted to get Israeli military hostages and bring them back to Gaza and then trade them for Palestinian host for Palestinian hostages because they've got a significant number of Palestinian hostages held in prisons, men, women, and children who have not been given a trial or they've been put through these phony military courts where 99.5% of people, basically everyone except one person, has been found guilty.
So therefore, they're not really caught.
It's like Hamas taking their hostages right now and saying, oh, guess what?
We put them through a court and now they're all guilty.
Yeah.
It's the exact same situation.
So that's.
And there's like 11,000 over there, total prisoners in Israel.
Palestinian prisoners.
Exactly.
11,000.
Exactly.
There's 11,000.
And they compared that to like what is in our 30 or 40 right now.
But initially, there was 200.
And they never wanted 200.
The aim was just the military hostages and to take them back to Israel.
Now, what happened, obviously, on that day was there's a few things that happened.
The first thing is, obviously, many people think there was a step-down order.
I'm kind of, I'm looking into that in a lot of detail because I'm writing a book on it.
And I'm still not 100% sure either way on that.
Okay, so you're not sold on it.
You're not sold in a stand down order?
I'm not yet.
I'm not.
And so I'm looking into it a lot more.
And the reason I'm not sold on it is because I actually think the because you're skeptical because people love to run with narratives.
So like, you know, obviously if you're like, no, I need to like really, you know, make sure I have this right because everyone thinks, you know, everyone's like, oh, it was a step.
There had to be a stand down order or whatever, which, you know, I guess it kind of makes sense because, you know, that border is extremely secure.
Yeah.
But at the same time, it's like.
But go ahead, keep going.
As you said, extremely secure.
They took about six hours in a large number of areas.
There's certain videos of soldiers claiming that there was a step-down order.
There was, what you call it again, in the stock market, the Israeli stock market, people short of the market.
So there is like a number of things that do kind of give this indication that there was possibly a step-down order.
On the other side, there's the people who claim that there's a step-down order, the main sources of them, they're actually Zionists.
And so for me, what I always see about the Israelis is they want Israelis, they always want to give this kind of perspective that they are untouchable.
They are unbeatable.
No one could take them out.
They're unpenetrable.
And they always give this psychology.
Now, Mossad in itself is quite good, right?
But the Israeli army, the IDF, is extremely incompetent.
I don't think they're as good as people claim.
And they've struggled.
You saw they lost in Lebanon.
Yes.
I was talking about this yesterday that the Israelis actually, like, their ground game and like their actual on the boots, boots on the ground military is not as strong as people think.
Yeah, it's very weak, right?
And they make the same military mistakes despite people telling them they made the mistakes.
So I always give this example.
I think I mentioned it on your show before, but I'm sure you always like 2006 when they lost the Lebanon war.
The American military analysis was that one of the major mistakes they made when they lost was they would bomb.
The bombing would cause destruction of buildings and it would cause rubble.
And what would happen is tanks would struggle to go past the rubble, right?
And because tanks would struggle to get past the rubble, they'd need to bring bulldozers in to remove the rubble.
Now, while they're doing that whole procedure, the Lebanese army would come in and just take them out.
That's the exact same thing they're still doing in Gaza.
The only difference is Hamas's army isn't a legitimate army, right?
It's a very, it's a paramilitary.
It's kind of, it's not very structured.
So why I'm giving that example is they continue to make the same mistakes when military analyzers tell them these are mistakes.
And so that tells you not only are they weak from a soldier perspective, they're weak from a military perspective as well in strategy.
And you're seeing that, you saw that in the Iran-Israel war, right?
Like a lot of the decisions they made when it was off the cuff was weak.
So their very first day, they did really well because it was planned, it was pre-planned.
They got the U.S. as they normally do, right?
Which has happened historically.
They always perfectly blended their military action alongside their intelligence operatives, right?
To like take everything down at a certain time.
And then as they're taking down the air defense, the jets are flying over, shooting the missiles in.
Well, I don't even think they actually managed to shoot that many missiles in the vast majority of the attack on the first day was from the inside Iran.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, because they had built drones inside the country, yeah.
They basically had a number of Mossad agents in, and so they, but they were the biggest thing what made him succeed was Trump lying to uh, yes, to uh, the Iranians and never forget they got attacked on a Thursday or Friday, and they're supposed to have negotiations on Sunday, bro.
Exactly.
So, because they manipulate, and remember, this is America and America's done this.
Remember, they did this in the 1968 war in the 1967 war, sorry, in the six-seven war, yeah, six-day war, right?
The six-day war.
Uh, they basically, uh, if you remember, Nasser, he uh never wanted to fight Israel, he never planned to fight Israel.
He actually just made certain moves to make it look like he's you know bolstering because the Jordanians want them to wanted them to like do something and he didn't want to do anything.
This came up on my debate with Destiny.
He was saying that oh, the Egyptians were mobilizing, so they're a right to strike first, yeah, which is fake.
Literally, yeah, the Egyptians were in um Yemen.
Oh, right, the Egyptians were fighting in Yemen in 67 because Nasser basically was supporting the socialist, the socialist movement in Yemen.
So, you had Nasser supporting the socialists in Yemen, and you had America, Israel, and uh, United Kingdom supporting the other side, okay.
And so, he had half his army there.
Let me just give these guys a visual representation real quick.
Okay, okay, so where were they?
You said they were stationed in Yemen, Yemen, yeah, okay.
So, he had he had a bunch of he had half his army in Yemen.
Why, training or fighting, fight all so he was supporting the Yemeni socialists because he wanted them to be the leaders of Yemen.
Okay, and the Americans, Brits, and less so the Israelis, but they were supporting the other side.
Okay, so there was an internal war within Yemen.
There's always been civil wars there, man.
Exactly, but there was internal civil war within Yemen, and they both wanted someone else to win because obviously, Egypt was quite strong.
So, half his position to even fight Israel, which makes no sense.
So, if half people were saying that he was moving up towards the Sinai Peninsula, he's extremely retarded, right?
Yeah, he's not gonna have half his army in Yemen.
And then, what happens is because half his army's in Yemen, he never wants to fight Israel.
So, he actually ends up when Israel attacks, he ends up fighting Israel with the other half or half of the army.
And so, that just demonstrates that there was never a plan to fight because how he wouldn't split half his army and half his army.
And also, obviously, that's the reason Israel won.
Now, oh, sorry, the why was I telling the story is because the day before Israel strikes, Nasser doesn't want to fight, and he says, Afsta, I'm hearing that Israel is about to attack us.
So, he gets on the phone with LBJ and he's like, Is Israel gonna fight the attackers?
Yep, and he's like, No, bruv, trust me, no, they're not gonna attack you.
You have that word, bruv.
Like, it's not gonna happen.
Uh, oh, no, 67 is gonna be Lyndon B. Johnson, I think, yeah, oh man, and obviously, you know, his yeah, Linda B. Johnson is you guys, oh man, you could thank Lyndon B. Johnson for this pro-Israel uh foreign policy that we have, he was like the first president to really start being uh,
you know, a show for the Israelis was Lyndon B. Johnson, and his and a lot of people don't like hearing this, but you know, he does have uh females on females on his women on the female side of his family, excuse me, that are Jewish, so he does have some Jewish uh he was having relations with uh a Mossad operative, right?
Yes, he was, yeah, and her strange boyfriend, which they had some kind of weird threesome thing going on where he would watch, but whatever, yeah, yeah, that's another thing he had an affair with uh Israeli intelligence operative, guys, Linda B. Johnson, yeah, but then he's he's the one who um so Lyndon B. Johnson basically tells Nasser, don't worry, they're not gonna attack, so he just chills out, he's been like the president of the United States, and then they attack.
So, it's the same thing as what Trump did.
Wow!
So, if you actually look at it, Israel got a lot of help even in that war because he got promised.
Like, if he'd known that Israel was in attack, if he hadn't listened to LBJ, he would have tried to get his army back.
Now, it would have been difficult to get it in one day, but like he would have put certain procedures in place to make sure that Israel is and of course, Israel is attacked and just blitzed.
Well, that makes sense because that makes sense that half the military was gone, yeah, yeah, because they had it, they handed them it was only a six day, it wasn't even that's why they call it a six-day war.
It was literally just like oh, Israel destroyed them, right?
Yeah, like there's no denying that, but they destroyed him because of the reasons I said, yeah, yeah.
Um, okay, so we covered you know, let's go into real quick, just backing up real fast.
What do you think were the top reasons that October 7th happened?
Um, from uh, from uh, Hamas' perspective, yeah, from Hamas.
I mean, I think the main reason was because they wanted to get the hostages, yeah, and they wanted to basically uh negotiate and convert those hostages for um for Palestinian hostages.
But the second reason is obviously they were concerned that what was going to happen was there was going to be some kind of overarching Abrahama cause, which would leave them without a place.
And remember, you have to remember, like, you think this is like a bad maneuver.
But if you look at it from this perspective, they've been ghettoized in that region since 67, right?
Because if Israel wanted, they could have done one two things.
They won the war, right?
They could either bring Gaza and the West Bank as part of Israel.
Yeah.
Right.
Or they could have given it its feparist.
But they didn't want to do either.
They didn't want to give him a separate state, quite clearly, because they don't want Palestine to have a state.
But they didn't want to incorporate as part of Israel because then they have a minority population.
Yeah.
So the third option was...
So I was trying to explain to Brandon Tatum that they would never have a one state because they would have to maintain the majority.
Exactly.
That's why they called the Jewish state.
Yeah.
And remember, like their plan even since 48 was always, we want to have 80-20.
We always want to have more Jews, like 80 or 75% Jews compared to the Arab.
Well, also because they know that if they were to allow the Palestinians to assimilate in, they would quickly lose the advantage because they have kids faster.
They have more kids.
Exactly.
I agree with you.
So they claim that Israel's birth rate is quite high, but I think that's a lie.
You don't think it's as high?
You don't think it's higher than us here in America, though, right?
I think they're lying.
Oh, you think they're lying about that?
Bro, like, they're all LGBTQ, gay, like into feminism.
I think they're lying.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
They do call like the gay capital of the Middle East pretty much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think they're lying.
I don't think that's true.
So like, that's the second reason.
Because what will have happened is they were afraid of.
So number one was you would say hostages.
Number one's hostages.
To do a hostage negotiation.
And it's funny because Western media never talks about that.
You know, that like, oh, they just went in there to just want to kill and pillage everybody.
But I'm like, dude, it's about getting hostages.
And even like the pillaging thing, like, there's no evidence of that, right?
Like, you've been through it so much in the last two years.
I've been through it.
Like, there's zero, except for, like, and we're honest, right?
I think like we're not like blind.
So after seeing or reviewing the footage, there was possibly two or three incidences where someone's intentionally killed a civilian.
Yeah.
And there's one that they didn't show us, but we've seen it now because they released it, but we already knew about it because what I'm saying.
I'm talking about the 45-minute video, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So guys, whenever they tell you, and I might as well tell the audience, there's this video out there.
It's like a 45-minute, 48-minute, 50-minute, somewhere in that range compilation video, okay?
Where the Israeli government compiled all the GoPro footage and all the different cameras they had, camera angles they had, and they did like a compilation of what happened on October 7th.
And you've seen the video in full, right?
I haven't watched the video.
They've not released it to the public.
So what I've seen is the website full of all the videos.
I've seen all of that.
The scan code that he gave to the UN when he was at the UN.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've seen all that and the ones they've released on the website.
But this 48-minute video, what they try and make it look like is...
A lot of it's Hamas fighters getting killed in there too.
Yeah, it's a lot of it is them like dying.
Like on what, because they had these GoPros and it's them getting shot and dying on it.
It's like a lot of people running.
Yeah.
Like running and trying to get to like hiding into centralism.
But yeah, the crap that they talked about, like the beheaded babies, but babies, you don't see any of that.
Oh, there's zero of that.
Zero rape, zero everything.
Literally none of that exists in the videos.
There's four incidences where you'd say, look, there is a possibility is worth having a conversation about.
Three, like I said, where there's a shooting.
One looks like an assassination.
And again, you don't know what happened before, what happened after, but just on the snippet.
Yeah.
And then there's one video which, like, there were reporters who watched it.
We weren't them.
Owen Jones is one.
Obviously, like many people disagree with him.
But the point is, he said, look, I've seen the video and I've seen the other footage.
And there's only like one extra incident that you would say is like problematic.
And this, this incident that they released about a month or two ago, which is that there's a father and two children.
The father runs into like this shelter and then they throw like a grenade.
I did see that one.
Yeah.
That resurfaced again like earlier this month.
Yeah.
So that's the only thing you'd say is extra, which is intentional killing, which is in the 48-minute video.
So that's it, really.
So there's like four.
It's so horrible, right?
It's horrible.
And we are like, it's not acceptable, right?
So those people, I think, those people who did it, if it is, and we don't know, let's look at this unless they are guilty, they should be tried and they should like, you know, they should be tried in court.
Like, we don't agree with that.
We don't agree with vigilanteism, right?
There's certain rules and ethics, both within Western society, which we agree with and within Islam, which we agree with that you can't do.
And this is an example of something that you shouldn't do.
So like, yeah, but this whole idea that all of it happened like that is completely incorrect.
Like the vast majority of people, as you know, were killed by Israel.
You had what, 1,150, at least 400 of them are soldiers.
And then you had 750.
And then they deployed the Hannibal Directive.
You had a shelling into certain kibbutzes.
I would say, like, if you ask me, how much people do you think Hamas actually killed?
I'd probably say like 200, 250.
That makes the most sense based on the situation.
I'd pegged it around 600.
Hamas killed?
Yeah, at most.
At most, 600 they killed.
How could there be 600?
Because like 1,150, take away 400 soldiers, 750.
So you're saying Israel only killed like 100 with Apache helicopters.
Remember, when they killed Apache helicopters, just to give you the depth of how many people they killed.
I'm saying 600 at most.
At most.
At most is what I'm saying.
Yeah, of course.
Logically, that could be the max.
But I'm saying, do I actually think?
I think 200.
You think 200 by Hamas?
Yeah, because let's just take the Apache helicopter.
Okay.
So the Apache helicopter.
Which, matter of fact, let me pull that up right now.
Because this is something that Brandon Tatum tried to tell me.
Like, oh, you know, Hamas killed all these people.
I was like, bro, like, are you aware that literally those Apache helicopters, like, raining Hellfire missiles down?
And the way, like, Hamas doesn't have that capability.
People are burnt to a crisp.
Yeah.
You know?
But go ahead.
Keep going.
Yeah, and you're right.
And when they deployed the Hannibal Directive, right?
Which is what this guy claimed, right?
This Tatum guy.
He was like, because I could read.
I think some Israelis sent him a script.
They probably did.
Yeah, he had a laptop the whole time.
He read it on his laptop.
Because he was first saying, like, I don't know what that is.
And then he said, oh, I've just read the Hannibal Directive.
And then he used the Israeli land as soldiers.
Yeah.
Nowhere someone like him would have been, like, coming with that argument.
And here you go right here.
Video released by Israeli army shows helicopters flying indiscriminately on October 7th.
Yeah.
And you can hear them talking to each other.
Like, you guys can see.
And this is what I told Tatum.
I was like, yo, it's like ThermoVision, bro.
You can't tell who's who.
Exactly.
Right?
So, he was blowing up cars.
How can you tell if that's a soldier of a civilian?
Yeah, like, you can't tell, like, what they are.
Like, you just see green.
And they were told, fire at everything.
Do not let anything get back into the strip.
True.
You know, so.
But, yeah, here's the footage, guys.
Like, you guys will literally see these cars are getting absolutely demolished.
But, sorry, you were saying.
And so, on this, if you had.
So, they've done this, right?
Like you said, they're demolishing places.
They killed 200 Hamas people.
From this hellfire missiles.
Okay.
Actually, they killed more.
But 200 of them were burned so badly.
Yeah.
That they thought they were Israelis.
Yeah, they couldn't even have that problem.
Do you remember the original number was so high?
Yeah, 2,000.
Yeah.
And they reduced it.
And one of the arguments was this.
Is that 200 of the Hamas members.
We thought they were Israelis.
But later on, we found out the Hamas.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Because the original figure was 2,000 dead.
Yeah.
And then they revised it down to 1,200.
And so, what that tells you is.
If they've killed 200 Hamas members.
Minimum.
They probably killed more than that.
Because this is the ones that confused as Israelis.
So, they probably killed 300, 400 Hamas members.
From hellfire missiles.
200 of them, they thought they were their own people.
But they end up being Hamas.
Means they've probably killed about 1,200 at least Israelis.
Because they're just bombarding.
So, if we think that they killed about 1,200 from the Apache helicopters.
And then from Kibbutz Berry.
Look, all these people running here.
Look, you can see them right there.
And they're just like.
Blowing them up.
Machine guns.
All that.
Well, go ahead.
Keep going.
Yeah.
And then Kibbutz Berry.
Kibbutz Berry is really important.
Because that was the place where one of the babies was killed.
You know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cohen.
Yeah.
And what the Israeli newspaper said.
And what they confirmed.
And what their military leaders confirmed is.
That they were basically using artillery fire.
Indiscriminately in Kibbutz Berry.
Right.
And so.
What we know again in Kibbutz Berry is.
Israelis were firing.
Indiscriminately.
And I believe 120 people were killed.
The vast majority by Israel.
So, if they've killed.
Let's say 70, 80 people there.
200 there were already knocking 300, 400 off.
Just from two locations.
So, that's why I get to the figure of 200.
I think.
Then you take Kibbutz Kafar.
You take the other various places.
You take Nova Festival.
They've killed a lot of their own people.
Yeah.
The people who were driving back.
And they were frantically trying to get.
Get involved too.
Like they didn't know what was going on.
You know.
Because I think when Hamas invaded.
Didn't they.
One of the first things they do.
Was destroy the radio towers.
Yeah.
They did.
That was like one of the first things they did.
Yeah.
They did.
And they.
And they targeted the military bases.
And they targeted the Kibbutz.
And the Kibbutz have military personnel in there.
Matter of fact.
You know who did a real good video on this.
Keep going.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so the Kibbutzes have military personnel in there.
And that's the reason for it.
So like a lot of these videos.
They show of women.
Being taken in.
That.
Those women were actual soldiers.
Hmm.
So that's basically one of the things that happened.
So.
I thought it was.
I think this is the.
this is like the original video right here.
This comes and you guys know I like this channel.
It's it's called Propaganda and Code.
It's a funny video.
I sorry, funny name of the channel.
Uh, let me see here.
I think they covered wall and destroy the Israeli arrogance and complacency to plan and operate relatively undetected.
In the early hours of October 7th, a blitz.
So this will give you guys a quick little summary of what went down on that morning.
And then we'll keep going into because I know you were talking about the Abraham course.
We'll come back to like the reasons.
Of over 2,200 rockets were fired at the Iron Dome missile defense system.
But this was only truly meant to provide the cover needed to fly drones over the $1 billion iron wall and destroy the remote-controlled machine gun turrets and communication towers.
They rammed through the first layer of defense and then created over 20 separate breach points through the main iron wall.
Their immediate objectives, take out important nearby command and control military sites.
Now, can you explain real quick to the audience kibbutz, how that works, and then why how they have these things set up here on the border?
Yeah, so the Nahal Oz is a military airbase, military base.
So that's the reason they target that.
Kibbutz Rim is a kibbutz.
And again, they targeted that because what happens is these kibbutz have military personnel in there.
Yeah.
And so kibbutz is like a, I guess, crude way of saying this is like maybe a neighborhood.
Yeah, I mean, you could say like little homes like in it.
It's like a sanctuary area, but it's not a sanctuary because within that area, they do have people like normal workers.
Yeah.
But there's a lot of military personnel.
But the reason they placed them kibbutzes there is basically to kind of again observe Gaza as well.
Of course.
So there's kind of like this kind of weird like evil reasoning for why it's there.
But yeah, that's the kibbutz.
The kibbutz is used for like farming and various other things.
But at the same time, there's like military personnel there as well.
Yeah, a lot of military personnel.
And the same with Urim.
So again, they had military personnel there.
So that's the reason you target them.
And there was obviously kibbutz kafa and various other kibbutzes.
There was another military base as well.
So they just basically were Nahal with the Nahal.
So they basically targeted them different locations.
And as he said, they basically penetrated through about 25 different locations.
But the aim was to get to those specific areas because you know you had to take them out because they're right on your base.
If you didn't take them out, you would struggle.
So, and funny enough, it was kibbutz rim, I think, where Hamas actually struggled to get in.
Like there was a lot of back and forth, a lot of fire back and forth.
Okay.
So they did like a decent job in what in that kibbutz.
It was actually the military Nahal base that they just completely took over very easily.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
And they did this very early in the morning.
So people were asleep.
It's like 6:30.
Yeah, and it was right around Yom Kippur, too, right?
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, which is one of their big holidays.
Yeah, yeah.
So as quickly as possible before the Israelis could respond.
So they split into small divisions and raced to their targets.
Speedboats raced across the ocean and onto the beaches of Sakim while paragliders flew over the wall and landed in various areas.
Guys on beat-up motorcycles and pickup trucks used home-made anti-tank missiles to take out $3 million Merkava tanks and $20 million Apache helicopters.
They conquered Ra'im military base, an important communication, right?
Yeah, that they took it over quickly.
And drone surveillance headquarters, killing or capturing all the soldiers inside before destroying the server rooms.
According to Scott Ritter, Hamas struck the headquarters of the Gaza division, the local intelligence hub, and other major command and control.
And this was a big reason why it took them so long to respond and they were discombobulated.
You know, and I'm realizing this, right?
With modern warfare, you know, we went from the days of trench warfare shooting at each other, just trying to kill each other to, okay, we have to go after communication infrastructure and technology first, then we can go ahead and actual combat.
Like, this is what modern warfare has done, where it's like, you know, you can't prioritize taking people right away.
You have to destroy the communications of the technology.
This is what Israel did with Iran, made them effectively blind for several hours.
Infrastructure.
Infrastructure is the most important thing.
Like, you take that out on you, basically.
Take out the technology and then, bam, now they're operating blind.
Facilities with brutal precision, turning what should have been a five-minute response time into many hours.
More than enough time for Hamas to carry out one of its primary objectives, the taking of hostages to use as exchange for the near 5,000 men.
In these kibbutzes and in this military base, there were soldiers there.
So you have to like, it's not like Hamas just went in and nobody was there.
So they didn't have to fight with soldiers.
They had to fight with military people.
And so, from the Israeli perspective, again, like I know it doesn't take long for a helicopter to go from like Tel Aviv or from their different military bases to here.
But at the same time, they already have those people stationed in.
And so, that kind of explains why there was a bit of a time lag as well.
Yeah, okay.
In Israeli administrative detention centers, returning to Gaza with more than 230 Israeli soldiers and civilians.
The result was a complete rout of local Israeli military forces.
For hours, the Israelis were completely in the dark, confused as to where the attack was even coming from.
Thousands of rockets were in the air.
Dozens of bases and military settlements, aka kibbutz, were captured, and multiple helicopters and tanks were destroyed.
The attack came so hard and so fast that many IDF soldiers were still in their pajamas as the resistance fighters entered the barracks.
How could these half-starved and besieged fighters have the gall to escape their prison and carry out an attack like this?
No one in Israel could have imagined it, let alone expect desperate to respond.
The Israelis began to implement scorched earth tactics.
Their helicopters began firing hellfire missiles and machine gun rounds indiscriminately at vehicles and people running in the fields.
Tanks rolled through the kibbutz and main roads and shelled houses as ground troops exchanged fire.
This was come from militants.
This led to confirmed in terms of the shelling by, like we mentioned, Israeli military?
The fact that they were firing just well, it was, yeah, it was like the Hannibal directed, but they were just because they were just going in with the tanks, they were just firing internally.
Yeah, they were.
And so even like Yasmin Para, if you remember, like she went completely like somehow, I don't know what happened to her.
She disappeared.
Right.
But she basically said that when the host, when the Habas had her, they were protecting her.
And it was, she was, they're protecting her from Israeli shots.
Oh.
So remember, that was the big scandal.
Yeah.
Yasameen Para.
She said it on a radio show.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And then after that, she went completely silent.
It's just really weird.
Yasmin Pora?
Pora.
P-O.
That's it.
Top one.
Yes, I do remember that.
Yes, I remember this.
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay, I guess.
It's not like she's like loving Hamas.
She's still calling him terrorists.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
She said that we'll go here, yeah.
So she goes here.
So we were about 12 hostages and 40 terrorists that are guarding us.
I'm keeping the story short.
In that the interviewer asked her, did they harm you?
She said, no, they didn't harm us.
They treat us very humanely.
He's trying to follow them up.
He says humanely?
Yes, what does that mean humanely?
And then she says they guarded us.
They gave us something to drink now and then.
When they saw we were anxious, they calmed us down.
It was very frightening, but no one behaved toward us violently.
Luckily for Marie, nothing happened to me like what I've been hearing about in the media.
Now, remind you, it is important for people to know when this interview came out, all the Hasbara with the mass grapes and the beheaded babies and the babies and ovens were coming out.
Yeah, yeah, that's what she said.
You know, so, you know, this is why the interviewer guys is so confused.
Like, what do you mean?
They guarded you.
What are you talking about?
Like, I'm hearing all these reports of them pulling babies out of people's women's wombs and stuff like that.
So, you know, this was really brave for her to say or tell the truth about what happened in her experience when she was dealing with these guys.
But after two and a half hours, I'm reading it because a lot of people will listen to this thing versus watch.
But in short, at the beginning, there was nobody like there was nobody with us from the security services.
We were the ones who called the police together with the kidnappers.
The goal of the kidnappers was to abduct us to Gaza.
One of the terrorists wanted to surrender to the police.
This terrorist was the one I conversed with during these two hours.
I also spoke with some of the other kidnappers who had kept those hostages.
He then decided to use me as a human shield.
I found this out afterwards.
He called to me.
Started leaving the house under fire.
We shouted at that point to the special forces who had gotten there to stop shooting.
And they heard me and they stopped.
And I saw on the grass of the kibbutz there, five or six hostages lying on the ground outside.
From the massacre.
In the line of fire between our forces and the terrorists.
-The terrorists.
The terror shot at them.
She says no.
They were wounded in the exchange of gunfire.
Six people killed by IDF right there.
Just from her.
Just from her witness.
50%.
There was 12 hostages, six killed.
Yeah.
Because when I look at the numbers, the Israelis tried their media, they try to say roughly 15 to 20 were killed, but that's bullshit.
15 to 20, what?
Were killed by friendly fire by the IDF.
Yeah, herself, she's already, and this, and just to understand, like, when I was giving you those figures, when I said out like 200 from the Apache helicopter, like maybe we've got like 70, 18 kibbutz bury.
I'm not even talking about kibbutz kafa and all the rest of them.
She's literally saying that where she was, and I can't remember where she was now, which kibbutz she was in, but the kibbutz she was in, there's 12 hostages, half of them were killed, and all of them were killed by Israel.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I try to explain this to people that like, um, it makes no sense for them to break in there just to kill people.
Like, they're there with a purpose, right?
They're there to get as many hostages as they can because that's really the only leverage they have.
Well, they don't even want to get many hostages.
Remember, the aim was only to get like 100 hostages.
That was the aim?
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
And because what happened was the Nova Festival never should have been there, right?
Because the Nova Festival was never meant to be there.
It got extended for like two to three days.
You want to explain that to them too?
Yeah.
So there was basically a Nova festival.
This is enough here, right?
I mean, you guys heard enough.
But here you guys hear a kibbutz survivor telling you guys that they were basically getting shot at by the Israelis.
You know what I mean?
And the reason why we know this is authentic is because this is days after the attack before the Israelis can really get a grasp on the media and everything like that.
Now, if you watch some people being interviewed, yeah, we haven't seen her.
And then we got like people, you know, making bullshit stories up.
But this is before all the Hazbars started getting spread.
But go ahead, sorry.
Yeah.
So the Nova Festival was the actual festival where a lot of people were.
Now, I don't, I'm going to sound mean, but I kind of don't really care.
First of all, like, what's the ethics in holding a Nova festival right outside a concentration camp?
Right?
It's bang out of order.
That is a little weird.
It's just not right, right?
It's like literally, you know, having a prison and then having people like take the mic out of those people in person, starving people.
Yeah.
It's not acceptable.
And the second thing is, like, they claim that these people that they were like, you know, they didn't have much clothes on.
But I don't want to sound mean, but like, how do people dress during these festivals?
Well, yeah, they don't wear clothes.
Exactly.
So like people who are dressed like that, then they're like, oh, these people have in their underwear.
Yeah.
They're in the underwear because that's how they were dressing.
Yeah.
If you've ever been to an EDM festival or whatever, you already know that women dress like 304s.
So that's what they do.
Yeah.
And so.
But they try to use that as evidence to say, oh, look, they got graped.
Yeah.
I see what you mean.
Yeah.
Which is ridiculous.
We're not allowed to say it because we have to be like, you know, if you say it, you're going to get cancelled.
Yeah.
And then the no, so the Nova Festival happens.
It's meant to be one day.
They and they apply for an extension, which is something Hamas didn't know about.
And the extension was for 24 to 48 hours.
And there's documents to prove that this extension occurred.
Okay.
And so when Hamas come in, they're shocked.
For the music festival.
Yeah.
So when Hamas come in, they're shocked that there's a festival.
They're even like, oh, what are these people doing here?
And so because there's so many people, they end up taking so many people back as hostages when the plan was not to do so.
Because it's very difficult to manage so many hostages.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
No, that makes sense.
And I mean, you know, from a military standpoint of, you know, if you want to attack an area, you know, is it smart to attack when there's a music festival going on?
Probably not.
No.
So they, so, okay.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Because just from it, yeah, exactly.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
From a military strategy perspective.
If you're trying to go in and get out quickly, why the fuck would you do it in the middle of a music festival?
Exactly.
Because think about it logically.
You can't control the area, right?
You've got a large, expansive area.
People display display like throughout, scattered.
When you go after them, they're going to run, which is what happened.
And then you're going to have to chase them.
You're going to not be able to contain the area, which is really important.
If you see in the kibbutz and the military places where they went, they were easily able to control the area, make sure there's no exit points, no entry points, make sure that they've got their place contained.
They're unable to do so when there's an open, expansive area.
So logically speaking, if they were aware that the Nova Festival is there, they would never have went.
Yeah.
Shit.
So here, let me read some of these chats real quick and then we're going to go into some more of the stuff we're discussing.
All right.
Oh, slash Goiper.
Oh, slash.
Thank you very much.
Jerome says, hey, Marin, when you start the stream and we are in the debrief loading screen of sounds, can you play Nitran and get hype while we wait?
WSS.
I mean, that's why I play music for you guys as I'm getting closer.
Ian says, oh, slash, appreciate that.
R1, Myron, Dave Martin, your legend, bro.
OSS World War I took over.
You know it.
Yay, Soli, listening to you on X. It's nice.
Cover Zone.
Hey, Martin, just listening today is my birthday.
Can I get a shout out?
Happy birthday to you, Cover Zone.
Kane says, WG Soli.
Okay.
Bro, I'm not a G. Why are you talking?
He said, put his mic closer.
I'll turn his volume up right now.
Let's see here.
The Goats of the Goats.
I can't wait to hear the saucy all about to fire off Wish.
Slay was on yesterday to Kaka that tortoise yesterday.
Gonna be a fire show, both y'all.
King Clock says, this is the first time ranting.
I've been watching since 2020.
Your work ethic is incredible.
Enough glaze.
I'm a welder in California.
Shout out to you, bro.
Ask Suleiman if he's seen any rubber dinghy rapids or RS3s since being in the U.S. So that's like there's like a, I don't know if you know this, but it's like it's a classic movie from the UK.
There's guys from like Yorkshire, like Sheffield, which is not too far from where I'm right now.
And you know how Asian accents are.
So he's like Rubber Dinghy Rapids, bro.
So like it's a classic.
It's a funny movie.
It's about like these four Muslim guys.
It's an insider joke from the UK.
Four Muslim guys who try to take out a terrorist attack, but it's like a funny movie.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Chas says, Solomon, I've been trying to get a hold of you.
X suspended me on September 14th.
They gave me no reason.
I've appealed multiple times with no response.
The day before being suspended, I had to prove I was human and I've seen real ID verified since it came out.
Masai got me W Marin W Suleiman.
Yeah, X sucks, bro.
And says, happy to see you visiting State Solomon.
Welcome.
Yeah, I'm so happy to be here.
I was concerned.
I might not be laying.
So it's great.
Yeah.
Just a black guy says, is this the same guy who was in X chat with about a week ago talking about 9-11 ties?
Sounds like him.
I don't know where he's.
I'm up.
Yeah, I mean, we did talk about the 9-11.
Yeah.
Okay.
Possibly.
Knox, epic track debut today.
I need to go donate to Lucas.
Okay.
Bluff Kim.
I think Ian Carol said he was in Miami in a recent podcast.
I didn't know.
He didn't hit me up.
The Democrats won in Norway.
And in the last two months, we have had a social worker brutally murdered, two grandkids incidents in Oslo.
God damn.
All right.
Social says, I can't wait to see the Nick steal Ryan's talking points again.
Love you, Sanigas.
I'm confused.
Can't wait to see Nick steal Ryan's talking points again.
What do you mean by that?
Oh, slash Graiper, W. Suleiman.
All right, cool.
Thunder says, hey, Martin, thought about nursing as a profession, want to move from Norway to the U.S. I'm wondering if nursing is something going to pay well.
Yeah, you can make six figures here doing it.
Go JQW Silent Man.
I remember being up 48 hours straight in the X spaces during the boom Tel Aviv days.
Yep.
Yeah, good times.
Desert Joe.
And there's going to be, they're definitely going to fight again.
Update from this on the ship podcast.
He says, StableNile recovering suspect has also been apprehended.
What?
What are you talking about, bro?
I'll look into that.
Okay.
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Best runs and best info space facts.
Cool.
Appreciate it.
Why Try says, two things.
Firstly, I just realized Drake is a J, and that explains everything.
Yep.
And the second is, I came across a video on X where an Israeli soldier testified and says, October 7, they were told to stand down from 5 a.m. to 9 a.m.
Yeah, I think we discussed that a little bit.
I mean, I posted it as well today.
So I think, yeah.
Let's see here.
Robin Kobe, Martin, after years of interviewing thousands of 304s, is it worth it to keep torturing yourself on after hours?
I don't know, bro.
Do you like it?
I mean, just women are dumb.
Like, a lot of the girls that come on the show are just dumb.
It is.
Do you still enjoy it?
Like, sometimes I watch a bit.
From time to time, you know what I mean?
But also, it's because it's the last show of the day that I do too.
So I'm like fed up with these bitches by the time I talk to them.
To get the brunt of it.
Yeah, because I'm like, you know, towards the end, I'm like, oh, my God.
DHL Silverman, I like you, but please don't downplay the lack of integration from Muslims in Europe.
No, but like real question, like this is, I've talked about this in Elijah's show, right?
Like what is it you mean by integration?
Like what is it that integration is for that you want?
So my grandparents, right, came to the UK in the 60s.
And I explained this.
And when they came in the 60s, they saw themselves as visitors, right?
So they saw themselves as foreigners.
And they thought, we're going to be here.
We're going to help rebuild the country.
We're going to make some money and we're going to go back.
And so whenever people would be like, oh, you're done, Packy, or break their windows, or whatever, they'd just be like, look, we're just going to deal with it.
We'll fix our windows up and whatever.
So they didn't really integrate.
They saw themselves as foreigners.
But what's happened is when you get to second generation, third generation, now they've integrated.
Now they've become part of society.
They see themselves as the same as a white British person.
And so part of integration is that they feel like they're the same.
So therefore, when that happens now, they'll respond in the same manner.
So that is integration.
So like my question to you is like, and genuinely, I'm not trying to like debate.
If you have something like, let's hear it, I've just never heard anyone give some strong enough point.
Like, what is it the integration you seek?
So if you mean in terms of values, then again, when my grandfather came, he had conservative values.
He came to a Christian country.
He said, oh, guess what?
We both believe in family values.
We both believe in defined gender roles.
We both disagree with LGBTQ.
Like these values are very similar to our Muslim values.
But now, obviously, the UK has become a left-wing LGBTQ country.
So if you mean that they don't integrate in that way, then yeah, that's true.
Because when they came to the UK and the dream of the UK and they had children there and their children had children, which is myself and I had children, it was the idea that it was a conservative country.
So if you mean integration to liberal leftist ideologies, then you're right.
But then I don't think Christianity integrates into that.
And that's why it's died in the UK.
So like, I genuinely want to know what you mean.
Now, if you mean there's certain religious people like Dawah guys who are like a bit out there and a bit more extreme in certain positions, then okay, that's a worth conversation worth having.
But even if you look at them, they just act very British.
So when they're like, yeah, yeah, bro, we're going to take over.
That's how Brits act.
So it's just like genuine question.
What do you mean?
I got here.
James says, I'm not out of shape, but I just started hitting the gym.
Again, I'm 6'3, 170 pounds to start taking creatine to increase gains.
And sometimes when I'm short, you just got to get calories in, bro.
170 pounds of 6'3 is you're a skinny cunt, man.
Alboys, what's Silly's sake on the future Iranian war and what to expect?
We'll cover that.
America, I got a future soldier in my hands.
Played early life for my three-year-old son.
He started dancing.
Okay.
Silly of mine, I like.
Okay, we got that one ready.
And then also, yeah, guys, as you guys know, the shift podcast, who shows a lot of support and love, he was out doing some debates, man.
He got stabbed in the back by some crazy bastard, man.
So prayers go out to him and his family.
For those of you that are watching on Rumble, he gives a lot of you brokey subs.
So you guys should, you know, obviously, number one, thank him.
And then two, I pray that he ends up okay because, you know, he was out, I guess, doing debates or whatever, and someone stabbed him in the back several times.
So, you know, obviously, I wish him a speedy recovery.
It seems here that he lost a lot of blood, but he's going to be okay.
So that's really good news.
So, you know, condolences and prayers go out to him and his family and hope he has a speedy recovery.
But I'm glad that he's all right and he will be.
He'll be okay.
Going back to what we were saying before, we were talking about the kibbutzes.
And okay, so yeah.
So they came in and they attacked the radio towers, got rid of them there.
Okay.
We talked about one of the main reasons why they came in was to get the hostages.
That was the main reason.
That was their main objective.
They wanted to take 100.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know what their preconceived amount of people they want to take.
So they ended up taking up, what, 250 almost, right?
Yeah.
Which you think about it logically, they just don't have the capability to take those people and to look after them and to keep them as hostage.
It's a large number of people, 250.
It is.
It was unexpected.
The Nova Festival really did throw a wrench in the situation.
Okay.
So what other reasons do you think cause October 7th?
I mean, I'd say those two are the main.
Obviously, in terms of like from a personal perspective.
Hostages in the occupation.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I mean, from a personal perspective, like you think about it from a psychology of somebody who's in Palestine, we explained earlier in the space, sorry, early in the show, the idea that, first of all, how they intentionally kept them in a ghetto, how they never wanted to give them citizenship, both within Israel and as a separate nation.
These people were terrorized.
They were kept in a concentration cap.
They were put on a calorie diet, which means that like whatever the number of calories is, you were given like for an adult is what, 1,000?
You're the expert on this, or is it?
1,500?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, they gave him a diet is what they call it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, they gave them like a diet.
Yes.
Which is crazy because like, you know, people say that they're not occupied, but it's like, bro, they literally control the food and water going in.
Exactly.
And they control the land, sea, and air.
And so just think.
Power everything.
Yeah.
And so, and then they'd regularly bomb.
They'd regularly destroy like the El Shafar hospital.
If you're Dr. Mads Gilbert, he was in there in 2015 and they basically bombed it.
And he thought they're all going to die.
And he's from Norway.
So the point being, like the regular bombing of hospitals, regular bombing of people kept us hostages.
And so the idea is that, look, like this is an opportunity to break out.
When you break out against your captor, you are going to act aggressive.
Actually, when I look at the actions of October the 7th and I look at the psychology of a person, just think about it if someone like yourself, right?
If you're put in that situation and then you have to face your captor, how would you act?
This is your chance to accept.
They're going to go crazy.
Yeah, you're going to go crazy.
Like some people will knock him out.
Some people will kill him.
Some people want to mutilate him.
Like you abused me for this long.
You murdered my brother.
Yeah, yeah.
You murdered my sister.
Yeah.
You just, you know, you basically have kept my father in 20 years as hostage and raped him in Israeli prisons.
Now you're in front of me.
Like I would say they've acted very calmly on October 7th when you take all of that into context.
Yeah.
I think that's something that people aren't aware of is like, you know, because, you know, Zionists always like to start the, you know, the argument on October 7th, but they never talk about what led to October 7th, right?
The occupation, the, you know, any, these, these Hamas fighters, there were kids at one point, right?
What ended up happening?
A lot of times they get radicalized because a family member was killed or somebody was put, you know, taken and put in prison without charge or someone in their family, like any of these guys, I guarantee you, if you ask them, why did you join up in the resistance, they'll tell you, oh yeah, because this happened to my family member.
This person happened here.
And it's just a very sucky situation because the Israelis don't want to give them any type of sovereignty or self-determination, this is what ends up happening.
And then they expect them to sit there and just be occupied in their open-air prison and just take it.
And then they've seen in the West Bank, right, where there isn't any resistance.
They're losing all the West Bank.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're losing all their homes.
And it's just happening in a slightly slower process.
Yeah.
Well, actually, yeah, compared to Gaza.
It's nuts that like some dude from Brooklyn, right?
Harvey from fucking Brooklyn can go to the West Bank.
Harvey Stein.
You know, Harvey Steinstein.
You know, can literally go to the West Bank and take land and take a home there from someone that was born and, you know, from the land.
Isn't that nuts?
Yeah, it's mental.
And someone who's Palestinian, who's born there, who could show their heritage for the last like two, three, four generations is not allowed back in the country.
Yeah.
That's, you know, and that's what's going on, chat.
Like, I don't think people understand like the ridiculous amount of oppression that these people are dealing with.
Like, it's not like this hate just came out of nowhere and there's this like vacuum.
Now, obviously, it sucks because obviously it leads to inevitable violence, but I always find it interesting how the pro-Zionists always start the conflict on October 7th.
They never start it with, you know, what led to that.
You know, they never talk about what, you know, they never talk about the Abraham Accords.
They never talk about the Alexa Mosque.
That's another thing.
No one talks about the theological side as well.
I mean, the operation was called the Alexa Flood, but it never gets talked about in Western media.
Yeah.
You know, what is funny, Danish D'Souza was talking about this on a couple, because what happened was I was Denish D'Souza, like, obviously I do prep for like certain shows, right?
As I did for this one.
And like Dennis D'Souza was doing a couple of interviews, you know, promoting his October 7th thing.
Obviously, when- It's out now?
It's out now.
Yeah.
Okay.
What's the name of it?
It's called Dragon Something.
Oh, yes.
I saw a promo for it.
Yeah.
And what it is, obviously, he didn't make these points on Elijah's show because Elijah was a bit aggressive towards him and was like kind of debating him where he didn't have that in previous ones.
But one of the arguments he made was this.
He said, and I think it's interesting to debunk it because it's the same argument he keeps making.
Because his aim of this movie is this.
He wants to bring Christians back into this Christian Judaism.
Juda Christianity.
And so he's like, look, what you find in the story is, or what you find in the story is a very Christianity, Christianity-tic ideology.
And what I mean by this is this, he gives this example.
He says, in the past, you had in the Bible, you have the Philistines.
And right now you have the Palestinians.
And the names are very similar.
And the Philistines fought the Israeli Israel.
Well, in Arabic, it's called Philistini.
That's what you call them in Arabic.
Yeah, yeah.
And so in the Bible, the Philistines fought the Israelites and they tried to ridicule them and they tried to ridicule Samson and they made him dance around as when they took him as a hostage.
And the Philistines did that and the Palestinians did that.
And you can see what's the similarity.
The similarities in the name.
That's his argument.
And so he's like, you're seeing this biblical story being reincarnated again right now where the Palestinians are the bad guys.
But what's interesting is actually the same story works against him.
Because who were the Philistines?
They were Europeans.
Okay.
And so what he's saying is in that movie, he's saying the Philistines were our enemies, the Europeans.
And they'll always be our enemies.
I didn't see the movie, so.
But you watched that, I'm guessing?
No, no, I just watched his interview.
Okay, okay.
The interview about us.
Okay.
And so he says the Philistines are Europeans and they say the Philistines are going to be our enemies forever, which is basically saying the Europeans are going to be our enemy.
So if somebody actually understands it, he's literally saying like what that story tells you is the Europeans are going to be our enemies forever, which is whites or Christians.
And the second part of the story is the guy who is being ridiculed is Samson.
Okay.
What's the Samson option?
Oh, yeah, destroying everything.
But actually, more specifically, destroying European countries.
Yeah.
Destroying America and European countries, destroying their allies.
Because they're saying the allies didn't work hard enough to save them.
And therefore, we're going to bomb London.
We're going to bomb Paris.
We're going to bomb Brussels.
We're going to bomb New York.
We're going to bomb LA.
And so it links to this whole Philistine thing, which actually is hatreds of whites and Christians.
Interesting.
Even though he's trying to use that story to bring them on the head.
Yeah, I'm not too familiar with that stuff.
Just because you brought the theology of Safari.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I know.
Of course, of course.
I was going to say the other thing too is with the red cows.
Yeah, the red heifers.
The heifers as well with them, you know, trying to.
And they killed one of the cows July 1st.
What's that guy?
What's this?
Adam King.
Adam King.
He went on Tim Cast.
And he said, yeah, I was in Israel and we sacrificed the cow as a test run.
I was like, what the fuck?
No, he brought the ashes to the studio.
No, wasn't he claiming that they lied to everybody and said it was a test run, but it was the real legitimate thing.
Oh, I don't know.
I just know that he brought ashes of a cow to the studio.
Yeah, because they say it's not like spiritual healing and spiritual healing.
Yeah, some shit like that.
Yeah.
So I think their claim is that they've sacrificed the red heifer.
Okay, so you think they killed one of the red ones?
Because they have like a ton of them.
No, no, that's their opinion.
Yeah.
Like, I don't believe in their Jewish shit.
No, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, just no, you don't believe in it.
But I'm saying, but I'll say, like, you, I mean, as in, you think that they actually killed one of the red cows, the red heifer.
I think that's what he was claiming, yeah.
Okay, okay.
He tried to make it like they didn't kill one of the red cows.
They killed like another one.
But who knows?
They could be lying about that.
But yeah, they definitely did a test run in July.
And then, you know, you got these people in the government like Ben Gavir, who goes up to the Temple Mount all the time.
Well, he goes up to the Alaska Mosque all the time to try to provoke because Jews are not supposed to go there.
But what he'll do is he'll take a secure and he'll go up there, you know, and obviously agitate the Muslim community there.
He does it all the time.
And it's just Judaism, right?
Because according to their religion, they're not meant to rebuild the third temple.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
According to their religion, what's meant to happen is the Messiahs meant to come back and then the third temple is meant to be rebuilt.
And their belief is that if they do attempt to rebuild the third temple, it'll get destroyed and they'll be destroyed for like a thousand years.
So they won't get their eschatological coming, sorry, third temple if they do it themselves.
Yeah.
So they're actually going against their own belief system by doing it.
Well, yeah, this isn't this why like the very religious, ascetic, I don't know if it's asidic or yeah, the ascetic ones are like, you know, they're more, they're like pro-Palestine.
They're like, hey, this is where, you know, you're, you're, you're accelerating the problem and this is not how we're supposed to build a temple.
They believe that if these guys rebuild the third temple, these guys will remain without a land for a thousand years.
Okay.
So, okay, so the Orthodox guys believe if these Zionists keep doing this, that they're going to be without a land for another 10,000 years.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, because there's guys, there's like, they're like from Brooklyn, right?
A lot of them?
Some of them are from Brooklyn.
Yeah, yeah.
You have a lot of them in Israel.
And in Israel, they're oppressed.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
They're in Israel, too.
Yeah.
I wouldn't think they'd be there because doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of them being there?
Yeah, I think it's just because they're in the land, but they don't believe there should be a state.
So they should be dissolute in the land, but they shouldn't be an Israeli state.
Gotcha.
That's what you mean.
And so in Israel, there's a large proportion of them.
Some say like 10, 15, 20%.
To the ones I speak to, they say the number's larger, but they don't show it because the Israelis try and basically harm them.
Israelis basically trying to sterilize them.
Israelis take the water supply off them.
So because they get oppressed and abused by the Zionists, what they do is don't tell their real number.
But these guys have a lot of children.
They have like 18 children each.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
These are the ones that are actually like breeding like crazy, right?
So, yeah, because for those of you that are wondering, like, when you're walking around in Brooklyn and stuff, and the guys have like the curls and they're super, they're wearing all the black and stuff like that.
These very devout ones, these a lot of these guys don't believe in Israel for religious purposes or whatever.
Although here you have a mix, right?
Because here you have the ones who dress up like that.
We do.
they are Zionists.
I went to, in New York, I went to...
We have a lot of secular ones here too.
Yeah, yeah.
I went to New York.
Oh, so you're talking about Miami, New York?
Oh, no, I was talking about Miami because you said you mean New York.
Go ahead.
Keep going.
In New York, when I went to New York, I went with some of my friends to the tunnels.
Oh, you know what?
Yeah.
They let people go in those tunnels?
Yeah.
In like we watched what we went to see them from the outside, gotcha, yeah, yeah.
It was like it was still open though.
There were still lights on there, so they try to make it look like they shut down, but they had they had all that they shut it down.
No, no, they never shut it down.
They made us think like they shut it down, but they're still doing it.
But there was all these people dressed like that.
And guess what?
It's New York.
They had their own police.
They had their own police.
They do have their own security force.
Yeah.
They had their own fire brigade.
They had their own security service.
And then they had the normal police.
And this was when there was no threats whatsoever.
So this is the level of spending that goes on towards the Jewish community compared to anyone else.
And then they have their own kind of police force.
They have their own legal system.
So they always complain about these things about Muslims.
But in reality, these guys are doing it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, they have their own, like, completely owned communities.
You know, no one else lives there.
Completely isolated.
Okay.
So we went over the reasons.
Basically, all right, Frank, go to your bed.
Bed.
So we had Frank, bed, bed, go.
Sorry, guys.
He's Frank wants to get involved.
Go.
What else are they saying?
Okay.
So we went over the re Frank bed bed go.
Sorry, chat.
Whenever I have a guest, he's like, he gets excited.
Yeah, he's very friendly.
See, look, see, there he is again.
Hey, bed, bed, go to your bed.
All right.
I need a haram, please.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, man.
Oh, Khadid now.
What else are I going to say?
We covered the what and the whys.
Anything else you wanted to say, I guess, as far as oh, we can start debunking the whys now.
Because we went over.
So basically, October 7th happens.
They go in.
The goal is to get hostages.
Obviously, fight back against the occupation.
They want to get 100.
They ended up getting like double that.
Obviously, as Israel's responding, they're shooting indiscriminately into the kibbutzes with tanks, Apache helicopters.
They just see thermal vision.
They're seeing things, you know, with the green thermal vision.
They're shooting at everybody.
You know, we do know now that Yuvgulan did admit that the Annibal Director was activated on that day.
Actually, as a matter of fact, he says it in an interview, even here.
He says it that in some place it wasn't activated, and that was a problem.
I'll show you guys real fast here.
They ask him straight up, was the order to use the animal director?
Was the order given to use the annual director?
I think tactically, in some place it was, in other places, it was not, and that is a problem.
So, even there you go.
This, this is, it was the defense minister at the time.
Yeah, this guy's the equivalent to like R.P. Hexeth chat, right?
He was the guy that ran the military on October 7th.
So, um, the order came down.
Hey, shoot everybody, don't let anybody get back into Gaza because they knew what was going to happen, and they knew that you know, whenever they have hostages, it puts them in a very bad spot.
Speaking of hostages, because um, I was debating this one idiot in front of uh the club the other day, and he mentioned the Bibis family.
Can you talk about the Bibis family?
I know you did a deep dive into that, and for the people that don't know the Bibis, um, here, I'll pull them up while uh Suli talks about this.
Yeah, the Babis family is Israel killed them, right?
So, what happened was that's controversial take, well, according to what they say, okay.
Um, but yeah, the Bibis family, um, they were and they're notable because the red hair, yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh, just because the image because they had the video of them, um, but they were basically taken to Israel.
If you remember, the father basically comes out on a video many times and says, Look, you keep bombing us, and we like almost died so many times, and then what happens is Israel actually bombs and kills the babis family.
And what Israel did was they lied initially and they said, Oh, Hamas has killed the babis family, I believe on October the 7th.
I can't remember what the lie was now, but we were saying when the father told said Israel, you guys are bombing, like he like he made a video with Hamas while under captivity, yeah, yeah, and he told them this.
Okay, okay, now what's your response to people that might say, Oh, well, Hamas told him to say that as propaganda or under aggression?
This is possible, logically, right?
Of course, it's possible, but just think about it from a rational perspective.
So, like, we're being quite rational, but saying it's possible, like hostages can be forced to say something at the same time.
Israel were bombing indiscriminately.
They were how do they know that there's an Israeli hostage there or not?
They clearly do not, and so the idea that it happened is quite high.
Furthermore, um, the other hostage, what's her name again?
Not Mia Shem, who got raped by the um with the by the Zionists, but the um what's the other one, the other one anyway, the one who's they put a near Nima near Nima something anywhere.
She she literally said, she said, Oh, I got hit, and they were like, Oh my god, she got hit by by Hamas, you know, and she came back.
And she said, no, no, no, I got hit by the by the by the Israelis in terms of what they bombed, the collateral of the building would hit me.
Oh, and so then they basically shut that down.
Yeah.
But so that's confirmed.
Like hostages were basically hit and attacked by Israel when they were bombing because they did it discriminately.
So logically, it makes sense that it was happening.
And they probably thought, let's take an opportunity.
Let's get him on the on video to say it.
And then he said it.
And then what happens is Israel then kills him.
And so then Hamas releases, look, you've killed him.
And actually the father comes out and says, you killed my children.
Because if I remember right now, the father comes out and literally says, you've killed my children in this bombing.
Yeah.
And I mean, you know, whenever I debate the Zionists on this, I tell them, like, what is their incentive to kill hostages?
It's absolutely stupid for them to kill.
Like, that's the only leverage they have is to keep them alive.
And because obviously they're going to be worth more alive, right?
So if you want to go ahead and say these guys are the most evil people ever, find, no problem.
But let's be pragmatic here.
Why would they relinquish the only leverage they have?
True.
You know, and kill the hostages.
Makes no sense.
So I think if anything, a lot of these Hodges that were killed were killed by either being starved or bombed by Israel since Israel was literally a blockade in the area and bombing the hell out of the area as well.
Where, you know, because they're assuming they have to move these Hodges around a lot.
They were moving them around.
Right.
So one day they might be in a building above ground where they're susceptible.
Another day they might be in the tunnels.
Another day they might be in another building.
So, you know, they don't know as much as Israel says, oh, yeah, we notify everybody with the leaflets or whatever, and they're going to get bombed when they're going to get bombed.
They still don't know when a lot of these attacks are going to come.
No, they don't.
And the thing is, when a lot of the attacks occur, as you know, remember when I did your show, I think it was one of the first few times.
Yeah.
They'd basically, oh, no, it was when I was debating Destiny on your show.
And what happened was they told people to go to Rafa, if you remember.
And then they bombed that specific area in Rafah.
Yeah.
So they were just telling people to go to certain areas and then bombing them.
And then bombing them anywhere.
You want to talk about, because this is another thing I get a lot with the leaflets and, you know, people being notified and all this other bullshit.
They get messages.
You want to touch on that a little bit with the leaflets and the text messages and all this other stuff that Nanyahu always says, he goes on interview and says, oh, we send out millions of text messages.
We pass out thousands of leaflets.
We airdrop it.
We airdrop food.
Do you want to kind of give the real?
Yeah, yeah, of course.
So first of all, it's ridiculous because I've just given the example of where they tell people to go to certain areas and then they bomb them.
Now, in terms of when they send leaflets, right?
A lot of times people can't trust those leaflets because what will happen is their concern is that, for example, if they were to go to a specific location, that location will be targeted.
So because what Israel's done is created a psychological operation where they'll bomb certain areas where they tell people to go.
At the same time, they'll bomb their specific building.
And so they're left in a quandary.
And in reality, it's not really a warning.
So for example, if I said to Myron, look, Myron, every anytime you go to the green room, you're going to be safe.
You're going to think like, no problem, I'm going to go to the green room.
But if you're like, Myron, every time you go to the green room, you're going to be safe.
And then I bomb the green room.
And you're like, damn, he's going to bomb the green room.
But then you're in the red room and then you bomb the red room.
Now you're like, flip, we just can't trust anything because they could bomb the red room.
They could bomb the green room.
It's like not being given a warning anywhere.
So that's the reality of what happens.
Like they can't trust the warnings because the warning could be like misinformation in terms of bombing them, which is actually what happens.
That's a good point.
So, okay, that makes sense because they get the leaflets.
It says go here.
But in the past, when they've went those places, they've been bombed.
So like they might say, do I even need to move?
Do I want to move?
Like they're going to, they might attack us.
So it's like all it's actually worse than being warmed because it becomes a psychological operation in addition to actually being killed.
Yeah, that's a good point that you mentioned that they'll tell you to go somewhere and there's been times where they bombed it.
So that puts you in a weird spot because you're like, am I going to go take the chance to go there and get blown up?
Or am I going to stay here because now that they've notified everyone, they might not blow up here?
So, okay, let's talk about the food, right?
You know, they've talked about the, you know, Hamas stealing all the food and all this other stuff.
What's your thoughts on that?
Yeah, that's just completely fake.
Because first of all, because he's been doing around Trigonometry, he said this.
I think he said this against the Nelk Boys.
He said this to Tatum that, you know, Hamas steals 90% of the food.
Yeah, this is fake because if you look at the people who are part of the GHF, like Anthony Aguiler, like obviously I disagree with him at some point, but he literally says that, look, Hamas, we don't even see them.
They don't have access to the food.
And so this whole idea that Hamas is stealing the food is just completely fake.
In reality, the Israelis are just not allowing the food in.
So when they show them videos of them trucks, that's outside the border.
That makes it worse.
There's actually food ready to go in.
Yeah.
But they're not allowing the food in.
Spoiling.
Now, in Palestine itself or in Gaza itself, there is certain situations where obviously, you know how it is, survival of the fittest, the stronger people are getting the food before like the weaker people.
And it's also important to note that there's another militia group in the area that doesn't like Hamas.
It's actually these gangs with the guns.
Yeah, al-Shabaab.
Are they called Al-Shabaab?
There's another group of guys in Palestine.
They fight with Hamas in Gaza.
There's another militia group.
It's the Israeli funded group, right?
Yes, precisely.
Yes.
Yeah.
So here's something else, guys.
There's a group of militia fighters similar to Hamas that are backed by the Israelis that are actually stealing a lot of the food.
And people think it's Hamas, but it's really not.
I forget what their name is.
Yeah, I thought it was al-Shaba, but maybe I got that.
Those are Ethiopian guys, I think, or the Somalian guys.
Okay.
That's the terrorist group out of Somalia.
But they basically are funded by Israel.
And they basically, they do actually steal the food.
Yes.
That's the irony of it.
They're armed gangs, basically.
And now there are certain people who, if you're stronger, you're going to get the food before the weaker people as well.
If it's like, it's just the way it is in a Somali fit situation.
Yeah, of course, of course.
And yeah, and guys, don't think like we're denying that people are fighting over food and stuff like that.
It's absolutely happening.
But I think it's important to understand that this is being manufactured by the scarcity.
And who controls the scarcity?
They do.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You know, if this was true that these guys were stealing the food and jacking it up and selling it at a high price, then put more food in.
Then they wouldn't be able to do this.
Well, let's be clear on this.
If Hamas was stealing the food, the people would turn on them.
Yeah.
Because then what benefit is Hamas?
If Hamas is like fighting the resistance, they'd get killed immediately.
Exactly.
But just think about logically as well.
Hamas is fighting Israel.
People are dying in Gaza.
There will be some people, because this is the tactic that Israel's used, right?
Which is this tactic of killing civilians significantly and then hoping that that causes the civilians to turn on the government.
Yes.
Yeah.
And so from the people in Gaza's perspective, when civilians are being killed, they would, some of them would be thinking like, okay, things might be better without Hamas, right?
Yeah, for sure.
Even though-More likely to cooperate with the Israeli government and stuff.
And so there would be this kind of incentive to turn on Hamas, and yet they haven't done that, right?
So this claim that they don't support Hamas kinda is weak because they would have turned on Hamas already.
But if Hamas was stealing the food as well, then they would definitely turn on Hamas.
So it makes no sense whatsoever that Hamas would be stealing the food.
And it would open them up to a lot of susceptibility, like them getting killed and attacked and everything else like that.
They're hiding a lot of these guys in the tunnels.
So it's like, you know what, you're going to go above ground and steal a whole bunch of food.
Like, I don't know.
It just, it doesn't, it just doesn't make sense, you know.
But again, Netanyahu's got to sell a certain story, right?
You know, all he does is lie during his interviews at this point.
But a lot of the people that he interviews, like, they're not going to really say, hey, well, is that really true?
Because, you know, a bunch of the human rights organizations too have come out and said, you know, that's false that they're stealing all this food that they claim, like 90% of the food.
Yeah, like nearly every unbiased person, even when they've been in Gaza or outside, have literally said the same thing.
Yeah.
And we know that there's just a blockade in general.
They're not letting the food in.
I mean, it's funny because they brought in all these American influencers from like Praetor UN stuff.
And they're here saying, like, look at all this food that's here.
And it's like, yeah, that's the fucking point, dude.
Like, it's not in Gaza.
It's outside, retard.
Exactly.
You know, just because and a few others were saying that it's ridiculous.
And the other point, which is important to debunk, is this claim that Hamas are operating in tunnels underneath hospitals and schools.
Oh, yeah, you want to talk about that real quick?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, like Al-Shiva Hospital and stuff?
Because they've been using that to justify.
Is every hospital destroyed except for one now?
Yeah.
Only one hospital is left in Gaza.
It's crazy.
But go ahead.
Al-Dasr hospital.
Okay.
Like some of our friends went there and then they've just come back and they're just like shook.
They're like.
Oh, yeah, doctors, right?
He went there and volunteered as doctors.
Doctors, yeah, and they were like, basically, it's shocking.
Like the amount of like pain and suffering there is is unbelievable.
Like the things we've seen, we can never recover from it.
Many of them have PTSD.
And one of them just cries because like they were just assassinating kids, like literally just getting a gun and just like, you could just see like a bullet to the head isn't going to be anything else except an assassination.
They're like a shook.
It's shocking.
Like sometimes there's so less food there that they don't have to give anesthesia.
You know, like normally where you say, look, once you're going to go under anesthesia, don't eat for six to 12 hours.
They don't need to tell them that because they've got no food.
It's just so bad.
But that's the last hospital.
And so yeah, they bombed all the hospitals.
There were 30, right, before?
I believe there was 30, yeah, above 30.
And so what happened was they claim that the Hamas are under hospitals, but we've seen that.
All of that's been debunked.
You remember the calendar?
Yeah.
Yeah, tell them about that one.
Yeah, there was like a, there was the one where they said, look, this is a rotor of a Hamas fighters.
And then when they showed it, it was literally a calendar in Arabic of the names of like the days of the week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
And so, and then that was one.
The second thing was they've taken guns into the certain areas, certain areas where there's magnetic areas or magnetic rooms where it wasn't possible that there would be weaponry in there.
And it was clear.
Is this right here?
Is this one?
This one was.
Yeah, that's a that's this war.
We are in operation.
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Hamas.
All right, yeah, this spokesman right here.
They're making fun of him after showing viewers a weekly calendar as evidence to support Israel's claims of Al-Ransi Hospital.
And Palestine's Gaza is a Hamas base.
This is a guardian list where every terrorist writes his name, and every terror has his own shift guarding the people that were here, bro.
That's crazy, man.
It's literally a calendar with the days of the week written in Arabic, and they're making fun of this shit.
But sorry, keep going.
But yeah, this is like the bullshit that they do.
And like the fact they're like, oh, oops, we should have put that one out.
This doesn't work.
And look, there's many genuine people who've been to Gaza who don't have any kind of allegiance to, like, they're not Palestinian.
They're not Muslim.
They're just Western people who've gone there.
Like Dr. Mads Gilbert, he's a Norwegian guy, went to Palestine.
Obviously, he's banned from Palestine now, but he goes there as a doctor and he's been going there for many years.
And he was there during now, during this, since after October 7th.
And he literally said, we never saw anyone, any Hamas member.
We never saw any Hamas person there.
And if there was, I would say, because I would disagree with it.
Like, there shouldn't be any kind of military person within the sanctuary of a hospital.
So this, and actually, the only people who've been in hospitals pretending to be Hamas is Israelis, right?
If you remember.
So in reality.
Yeah, yeah.
They've went into hospitals dressed up.
Yeah.
Here, I'll show you guys this.
I actually showed this to them before.
But keep going.
Yeah.
So that's the only people who've actually, when it comes to military personnel being in a hospital, the only time it was done was by Israelis.
So like all of that is just fake news.
That's it.
Yeah, right here.
Undercover Israeli forces in Fultrada Hospital in the West Bank and kill three militants.
Now this is the West Bank, but they were doing this in Gaza as well.
That's coming up.
And guys, they do operations.
They do shit like this all the fucking time in Israel, bro.
Because like I told you guys before, there's, you know, you got Mizrahi Jews that are literally Arabs, right?
That that or some of them are even Palestinians because there's Israeli Palestinians as well.
A new proposal for a truce in Gaza, but says it's positive of okay.
But what's, I'm trying to think here.
What's so we covered the myths.
The mass, you want to talk about the mass grapes real quick?
Debunk that one real quick?
Yeah, yeah.
So that one's so obviously they claim that there was mass rapes.
Now, in reality, if you look at it, you mentioned about the GoPros.
They say they've got all the GoPro footage.
So why is it that when they've got all the GoPro footage, none of it has been shown?
There's no videos of any form of rape.
They showed like a video of some woman who wasn't dressed that well, but they were at the Nova Festival, right?
Yeah.
Furthermore, they showed a fake, um, a fake one of this Kosovan woman, which was from the Kosovan war, which ended up being debunked.
We debunked that at that time.
Oh, okay.
And what it is, is when they get to the picture from another conflict.
Yeah, exactly.
And so when it comes to the mass rape, there's zero evidence for it.
Now, there was an investigation, right, by the UN, Pramila Patton.
She went to the United, she went to Israel, sorry, from the UN, and she went, oh, that's Mi Hashem, right?
Yeah.
So this was one of the first people that was released in the hostages negotiations, guys.
So I was closed in a dark room, not allowed to talk, not allowed to be seen, to be heard, hidden.
There's a terrorist looking at you 24-7, looking, raping you with his eyes.
I'll see you 24-7.
I'll see you on my eyes.
Thank you.
Is that how you felt?
And she goes, obviously.
He had such a bad look.
So, oh, he was graping me with his eyes.
Okay, bro.
Okay.
So what happened to her when she went back to Israel?
You want to tell them that story?
It's a funny story.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
What happened when she got back to Israel?
So when she went back to Israel, she was actually raped by her fitness instructor, who was an Israeli Jew.
Bro.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
She was kidnapped by Hamas.
They didn't grape her.
They graped her with their eyes.
She gets back to Israel.
And then her personal trainer grapes her.
And you know what?
Israelis say they said she's got mental health problems.
That's what she said.
Oh, that.
Oh, they're claiming that.
Okay.
So now she has mental health issues when she accuses an Israeli.
But before it's like, so what did they do to you?
Oh, they raped you with your eyes.
Oh my God.
That's bad.
I mean, you can tell this bitch is off her rocker.
Look at her lips and shit, man.
You could tell.
Like, she's not all the more.
All the marbles aren't there.
Okay.
Lights are on, but nobody's home.
You know, like, well, anyone that does this with their lips is like, what the fuck?
So, anyway, but go ahead.
You were saying something?
Yeah, I agree.
And then, so, what is the claim for rape?
Because there's zero evidence.
It's this UN official who goes to Israel who investigates it.
And then they pull out the big UN report.
Now, if you look at the UN report, I agree with the findings.
I don't agree with her conclusion because her conclusion doesn't match the findings.
And by the way, when she's doing the investigation, the reason she does the investigation is because an Israeli name is Ruth Qadari.
She worked with Pramila Patton.
And so she gets a.
Who are these people?
Real quick, sweet.
So Pramila Patton is the head of like the sexual violence in the UN.
Okay.
And Ruth Hadari is an Israeli Jew who used to be part of the UN.
Okay.
Now is no longer part of the UN.
Is friends with Pramila Patton, tells her to go to Israel, kind of directs her on what to do.
And she's been activated by Israel and has been put and by the Israeli foreign ministry to speak about rape in Israel and to propagate it through various projects.
Like she did the Dina project where she talked about the mass rape in Israel.
And then she brings all of her connections, which Pramila Patton and her connection to the UN to make these false claims of rape.
So it's basically an Israeli asset paid by the Israeli government that essentially gets the UN to come and do this investigation.
And basically.
I thought they didn't like let them in to do their investigations or they didn't like Israel wasn't transparent with allowing the UN to come in and do their own because I know there's no physical evidence that was found, no rape kits, none of that other stuff.
They relied very heavily upon the way that the bodies were found.
Exactly.
Right.
Which we know that Zaka and these other organizations purposely manipulated bodies to make it look a certain way so you could get more donations.
That's right.
Like Yassi Landberg, I think the guy's name is.
Yeah, Yassi Landberg and some of these other guys, where for those of you that are wondering, so obviously Judaism, just like with other religions, like with Christianity and Islam, the people of the book, they typically want you to bury the individuals as quickly as possible and there's certain rituals to prepare the body before you do so.
So these humanitarian organizations, what they'll do is when there's like scenes like this, they'll come and they'll pick up the bodies immediately to prepare them for burial.
And since a lot of these guys are Zaka and I forget the other one, what's the other one?
Here, I'll try to find this here.
Max Blumenthal did a good job of showing this.
But they're the first ones to get on the scene.
So what these guys did on October 7th, which is like heinous, is they adjusted the bodies in certain ways to create a certain narrative.
That's right.
And to get more money.
Because one of these guys made $13 million.
Oh, yeah.
He made a lot of money.
And imagination.
Zaka was almost shut down.
Here we go.
Yeah.
Yassi Landau.
This guy's, bro.
I think this guy right here is probably one of the biggest criminals ever.
Like, this guy should literally be tried and fucking punished to the folks under the law because this guy's lies stand to this day.
Because he was one of the first people on there saying beheaded babies, babies in ovens.
And then when he got pressed, he finally said, oh, yeah, I used my imagination.
What?
Well, guess what?
This imagination of yours has led to the systemic bombing and destruction of an entire group of people.
Because Netanyahu relied on these fucking bullshit narratives to sell this war.
That's right.
They found babies and adults to be capitalized.
It's a complete and total hoax.
Israel and its proxies fed the media new tales of atrocities that were even more lurid than before.
Many of these came from one particular individual, Yossi Landau, a religious fanatic from a self-described rescue organization known as Zaka.
Of this 14, 15-year-old head chopped off.
We were looking around for the head, couldn't find it.
14, 15-year-old head chopped off.
Despite lacking any forensic credentials or paramedic training, Zaka volunteers were typically the first on the scene and therefore able to make the most outlandish claims.
Again, guys, Judaism has very strict burial laws according to Jewish law.
So this is why they get on there.
They have to deal with the body in a certain way for a proper Jewish burial.
So that's why a lot of these organizations exist, these crisis-type organizations in Israel.
See, Landau himself said that he never actually saw any atrocities take place, but that he used his imagination to tell the stories of the bodies he found.
When we go into the house and we're using our imagination.
And what an imagination he has.
I would say about 280 bodies.
We go in the house and use our imagination.
These 280 casualties, I would say 80% was tortured.
Two piles of 10 children each were tied to the back, burned to death.
When we go into a house and we see on one side of the dining room, there was parents, father and mother, hands tied to the back.
And the other side of the room, against them, there was two children, a girl and a boy.
The same position.
They were tortured.
Main thing, and I wouldn't call them animals, to open up to all the food that was prepared for the holiday.
And these terrorists sitting and eating while torching the father and the kids, their parents and the kids, they should see each other how they were being tortured.
How evil could that be?
Landau's lies were promptly amplified by Israeli officials.
Took dozens of children, bound them up, burned them, and executed them.
They beheaded soldiers.
Their American counterparts, including Secretary Antony Blinken, were equally obliging.
A family of four, a young boy and girl, six and eight years old, and their parents around the breakfast table.
The father, his eye gouged out in front of his kids.
The mother's breast cut off.
The girl's foot amputated.
The boy's fingers cut off before they were executed.
And then their executioners sat down and had a meal.
There was just one problem for Landau and those who amplified his questionable claims.
No bodies found in kibbutz bury matched the descriptions he made.
The story of the beheaded babies was also implausible according to official Israeli government data, which confirmed that only one baby.
So kibbutz berry, only one baby was killed and no children were killed.
Yeah.
The only children that were children was allegedly two.
It was a family.
The family's name was, is it Rossi or something?
I need to really look it up.
But basically, the sister was an IDF agent.
And then the parents, obviously, their parents were obviously ex-IDF.
But the children obviously weren't because they were either 16 and 18 or 16 and 14.
Okay.
So that's the only person under the age of 16 that was killed.
Gotcha.
I'm sorry, I think that's either Kibbutz Berry or Kibbutz Kafar, one of them too.
Okay.
Yeah.
11-month-old Mila Cohen was killed on October 7th.
There you go.
Just one.
And she was tragically shot by accident through a door, not decapitated.
Landau also claimed to be killed.
So one baby actually died, which is tragic, of course.
But no one knows who killed her because she was shot through a door.
There's a high possibility that was.
Because remember, it's Kibbutz Berry.
And that's why they were doing the shot artillery fire.
Highly likely that it was Israel.
That it was, yeah.
Yeah, it was Berry.
Kibbutz Berry was like one of the big, one of the places where the fighting was the most intense between IDF and Hamas.
And a lot of people died.
Okay.
Gotcha, gotcha.
Fetus that Hamas had cut from a pregnant woman's body.
Well, not only that there was fighting between them a lot, but there was a lot of Israeli artillery that was used in kibbutz berry compared to anywhere else.
Gotcha.
The tanks were shooting.
Yeah, the tanks were shooting in there predominantly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, even the tank operators, which just so you guys know, the people that operate the tanks are the lowest of the low in the IDF.
Okay, the tank operators are considered retards.
Okay.
And I remember I watched like an interview or something like that, and one of the tank operators was like this fat Israeli woman.
And she was like, yeah, they just told us to shoot into the kibbutzes.
They said, fuck it, just shoot in there.
Get everybody, kill everything.
Like, no one can take these hostages back.
Because you guys can see it creates a political nightmare for the Israeli government.
Yeah.
Right?
Because now they got to pretend to care about the hostages.
Exactly.
Right?
So, which actually we'll talk about what do you think about the deal going on right now?
Because I think there's been some updates with the deal.
She was pregnant.
Bro.
The stomach is butchered up and a knife is still stacked in that baby.
The unborn baby.
Yet the images never materialized, even after the media requested them.
One fact Landau did prove, however, was that the business of the truth.
Fabricating a trust.
Because when he started saying this shit, people were running with it.
Like, oh, we need to destroy Gaza.
Trump says that all the time.
Yeah, they still say this stupid shit.
Ossidi porn is extremely lucrative.
Before October 7th, his Zaka organization was nearly broke.
But in the aftermath of the propaganda bonanza they fueled, they raked in over $13 million in just a short amount of time.
The Israeli paper Haaretz reported that Zaka volunteers were so desperate to cash in on October 7th that they actually rearranged corpses discovered in the kibbutzim.
Literally.
Bam.
So there you go.
They're moving dead bodies around to paint a narrative to make more money.
Nuts.
And this comes from Israeli media, chat.
Playing with dead bodies in order to exaggerate the sense of horror before sending the images to potential donors.
One of Zaka's competitor organizations, United Hatzalah.
Yeah, this guy was like, bro, these guys can't.
No, man, we got to compete.
We got to make our money too.
Here to cash in as well.
It sent its director, Ellie Beer, to a Republican Jewish.
There we go.
That's the other guy.
Ellie Beer and Yassi Landau.
Don't forget those names, guys.
These two guys are two of the main atrocity propaganda creators for the October 7th narrative.
There, Beer rattled off a slew of lies that Yossi Landau would have been proud to have concocted.
I saw in my own eyes a woman who was pregnant, four months pregnant.
They came into her house in front of her kids, opened up her stomach, took out the baby, and stabbed a little tiny baby in front of her and then shot her in front of her family.
And then they killed the rest of the kids.
I saw little kids who are beheaded.
We didn't know which head belongs to which kids.
We saw a little baby in the oven.
They put him in.
These bastards put these babies in an oven and put on the oven.
We found the kid a few hours later.
These guys should go to fucking jail for these lies, bro.
These guys should go to fucking jail, bro.
This is absolutely nuts.
Absolutely nuts, guys.
Because remember, these statements, guys, were being made in the days after 10-7.
So emotions were high.
People were pissed off.
And they used this atrocity porn to justify the relentless fucking bombing campaign slash genocide that we're seeing now.
This was all used to substantiate their merciless campaign on the Gaza Strip, bro.
Story of a baby baked in an oven, clearly contrived to evoke the horrors of the Holocaust, was immediately catapulted into the mainstream pro-Israel press.
They baked their baby in the oven and cast it.
Boom, American media picked it up.
Look at Fox News.
The woman alive so that she could hear the screams of her child melting.
The little children that were put in the oven attacks that saw a baby put in an oven and baked alive.
And even though this lie was also quickly debunked, it contributed to the narrative that Israel was confronting quote-unquote human animals, as its defense minister Yoav Galant put it.
Again, this is the same guy I showed you guys the interview of when he said that Hannibal Directive was activated.
And he goes right there, we're fighting human animals.
And it therefore had the right to do anything.
And then in that speech, or this rant that he gave, he said, no water, no power, no food, no nothing.
Gaza Strip is closed off.
These guys are human animals.
That's who we're fighting.
Absolutely.
It's pretty much what he said in some substance.
Anything to prevent another October 7th.
There you go.
The police siege.
Look, there's no denying that atrocities took place.
And that proves right there that they're occupied.
The fact that Israel can cut off all their shit like that literally proves that they're occupied and they have no sovereignty.
Right?
People say, oh, well, why are they fighting Israel so much?
Bro, they have no freedom.
The fact that they can control all the food and water and everything else coming in and they can starve them like they are doing now and they've been doing it for like two years.
That should tell you guys, you know, what it really is.
Place when Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th.
But Israel wasn't content to capitalize on the atrocities that had been clearly documented on camera.
They just weren't sufficient to give Tel Aviv the political latitude it needed to mount a full-scale ethnic cleansing.
Yeah, they could have used the footage they had with the GoPros, but he's right.
It was not shocking enough to see IDF soldiers get killed.
They needed to, you know, put it in a certain way where it's like, oh no, these guys are killing kids and women graping them and all this other stuff.
Campaign.
Netanyahu himself outlined the cynical logic directly.
Look, here he is meeting with Zaka.
Here he is meeting with Zaka.
Hey, we need you guys to really lie for us, man.
You guys need to get us this war.
Dressed Zaka volunteers and told them that their mission was to grant him the maneuvering room he needed to totally destroy Gaza.
Bam.
You have an important role influencing public opinion.
The war is not only to take care of the 1400 people, but also to give us maneuvering room.
We know what that means.
So the image of Hamas is a band of psychotic, ISIS-like, irrational Muslim fanatics, rather than a resistance group representing a popular constituency rebelling against being eternally confined to a de facto internment camp had to be reinforced over and over again.
They are savages.
Hamas is ISIS.
An act of sheer evil, the utter depravity and the barbaric nature with which these terrorists murdered.
And then these guys, this Hazbara got pushed to the United States, bro, crazy.
Among Israel's key talking points, dutifully repeated by its stooges in the US media, was that the death toll on October 7th represented, quote, the largest killing of Jews since the Holocaust.
We're in the wake of the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust.
The largest loss of Jewish life in a day since the Holocaust.
It was the deadliest day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust.
I would argue it's the deadliest day for Jews since.
See how they all repeat the same thing.
Yeah, they all repeat the same thing, dude.
It's absolutely normal.
And to be honest, like, if this is like the most deadly day for Jews since the Holocaust, it means they've had it easy because like you can give a huge number of examples of not just Palestinians.
Sorry, guys.
And not just Palestinians, but various other people being killed in large numbers in one day.
So it's just like, just demonstrates that.
Another person who I think is highly problematic in all this is David Benzion as well.
He was the guy who made the lie up about the 40 beheaded babies.
Let me pull him up real quick.
David Benzion?
Yeah.
Let me see.
He basically made the lie about the 40 bad babies.
And if you look at his history, he was a settler.
He talked about how he wanted to destroy Palestinians, how he wanted to murder them.
I believe he put, I believe if I remember right, he did put Palestinian babies.
You want me to search him on YouTube instead?
Because I don't know any of that.
David Benzion, yeah.
I don't know if he's on YouTube.
Quick videos.
He's the one who...
Yeah, he's the guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've seen this guy.
Yeah.
We're stronger than them.
They are aggressive.
They are very bad.
they cut her off children, cut her off women.
Yeah, this guy was one of the Yass studios.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're right.
Yeah, let me see if I can get YouTube so I can get it better because Instagram is fucking garbage.
David Ben Zion.
Here we go.
Bam.
We walk door after door.
We killed a lot of the tourists.
We're stronger than them.
They are aggressive.
They are very bad.
They cut off children, cut her off women.
But we're stronger than them.
Bro, complete fucking bullshit.
Yeah, that's yeah, that guy kicked out from the festival.
You know what's funny?
They gave her that when they gave her back, she seemed fine.
She wasn't skinny and gaunt and all fucked up.
But like when the Palestinians, they get them back, they're all cooked.
This line was obvious.
Hamas had set out to kill Israelis simply because they were Jews, not because they were military occupiers.
But was Hamas solely responsible for the death toll?
According to the official Israeli line, Hamas slaughtered 1,400 completely innocent people on October 7th.
But it's since been confirmed that at least 380 of the dead were actually uniformed Israeli soldiers engaged in maintaining the siege of Gaza.
After several weeks, the official death toll was reduced to 1,200, of which 695 were Israeli civilians.
After coroners determined that at least 200 Palestinians, including fighters and average citizens who entered Israeli territory, were contained in the original count.
In fact, photos of Palestinians killed by Israeli missiles inside Israel's southern Gaza envelope were distributed as evidence of the savagery of Hamas against Jewish-Israeli civilians.
But these photos raise another inconvenient question: How did Israeli helicopter and drone pilots differentiate between Palestinians and Israelis in the chaos around the kibbutzine?
I was one of the first Western journalists.
You want to say something?
Go ahead.
No, no, I agree.
That's the point that we made earlier, right?
That how could they differentiate between not just an Israeli soldier and Israeli civilian, but even a Palestinian?
Yeah, we're using night vision.
Like, they're literally using like thermal vision here.
Like, you can't see anything.
All you see is heat signatures.
Question and figures running around.
Israeli military itself had in fact killed many Israeli citizens on October 7th, relying on interviews in Israeli media with helicopter pilots who said they had no okay.
I'll read some of these chats.
Debi Silaman Salaman from here of Islamabad in London, inshallah.
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UBA says, no, it was a real cow done by a priest.
It was no test.
Run, pull up Adam King video.
How he said to deceive the world.
You know what?
Let me go ahead.
Let's look this up.
Yeah, I think he's right.
Adam King, Timcast, Cal.
Maybe it's this one?
It is speculated now that they may have a pure red heifer, meaning no blemishes.
You're saying they can use it to consecrate the ground, but what does that signify?
All the early Christian church fathers.
Oh, no, this isn't him.
There you go.
Oh, yeah, this chick backed out, guys.
She's a coward.
They were supposed to be.
Yeah, it's it's the you know, I might have to just there was a six-minute one, just like five minutes.
There's a six-minute oh, okay, where?
Uh, just that.
Oh, yeah, okay.
This was a big thing over at Infowars and on the dissident right media for the longest time.
The Jewish- This guy is so fucking insufferable, man.
I hate media.
Yeah, do you have my tweet that I actually put on my so I basically what happened if you want to go and he goes here?
No, it was a real cow done by a priest.
It was no test run.
Pull up the Adam King video, uh, how he said they deceived the world.
Okay, we got it right now.
Debbie Stream solely on the debrief house.
Let's fungo, love your brother.
Okay.
Um, Jay says, you're Martin Senior from Purdue University.
I just left my TPOSA chapter meeting.
We went over Charlie's possible wavering support of Israel and did agree, uh, did agree slash disagree activity on Israel young because others are waking up.
What's your what's your thoughts on the whole Charlie Kirk thing, by the way?
You have uh I think Israel did it.
You think Israel did it?
Okay, yeah, I think um you want to give your theory like why yeah, yeah, sure.
So or do you want me to do it after this Adam King thing?
Whichever you want.
We've got lots of goal for it.
Yeah, I'll read these then.
We'll do that.
Then we'll do it.
Okay.
That way you have the full floor.
Shout out Shlomi Zion.
Okay.
Salute, my brother.
Appreciate your hard work as always.
Got you.
Slug for you.
What about the mass flood as a catalyst?
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I'm planning to get to 180 in three months.
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Dear Chow, I'm not a feminist, but I'm against Sharia patrols in Europe and forced hijabs like they did in Masha Amini in Iran.
And child marriages and honor killings, which is very common in Muslim countries.
So first of all, I'm not a feminist, but I'm against Sharia patrols in Europe.
Like there are no Sharia patrols in Europe.
This is what I mean.
Like this is just fake news.
Like give me an example, like a real example of there being Sharia patrols.
That's not happening.
Forced hijab like they did in like again, there isn't forced hijab.
Now, is there certain families who maybe tell their family members to wear hijab?
But yeah.
But how is the forced hijab?
Again, like this is that is something that's internal within the family.
And if you look at it, actually, generally speaking, in the UK, the Muslim community has become very much westernized.
There's not even that many people wearing hijab.
Child marriages, that's just fake news.
That doesn't even happen.
Like, give me an example of when child marriages happen.
And obviously, you guys know my position on the Aisha thing.
I don't believe she was an eye child.
Honor killings.
Honor killings, again, that doesn't happen much.
Of course, that's more cultural rather than religious.
So that's a cultural issue for certain cultures, but not religion.
Because in religion, honor killing is not permissible.
They're not permissible anymore?
At all.
In Islam, you're not allowed to do honor killings.
So when they do these honor killings, it's a cultural issue.
So it might be within like the Pakistani community.
It might be within the certain Arab communities.
But in Islam, it's not honor killings.
It's not permissible.
Gotcha.
So is it not like it's not in the Quran at all?
Not in any Islam.
It's not even the Hadith or anything.
Nothing.
There you go.
Well, that's important that we have someone that's one of them.
But we have a legal in Islam.
We have a very important concept, which is found in Western society, right?
So if you look at the American Constitution, what's it based on?
It's based on the Magna Carta.
The Magna Carta is based on Christianity.
So it's Christian values and Christian law.
And it's very similar to Islamic law.
So Islamic law has a legal system.
We don't believe in vigilanteism.
We don't believe in people taking the law into their own hands.
Everything goes through the legal system.
For example, homosexuality.
homosexuality is not allowed but the only but throwing people off the roof is not exactly That's just that extreme element within Islam.
But within the normal Islamic law.
So it's not official.
This is just what groups of people.
Yeah, because the whole throwing them off the roof, I was like, what the fuck?
I've never heard of this before.
Like, that's a, okay.
It's not in Sharia law.
It's not in the four schools of Sharia.
And so what the Quran says is homosexuality is not allowed.
Yeah.
Compare that to the Bad and Torah.
They actually say murder the homosexual.
Gotcha.
So already.
Homosexuality is punished by capital punishment.
Whereas in Islam, it doesn't tell you how to punish them.
In the Quran it isn't.
But then What does the hadith say?
Hadith and then Islamic law, then there's difference of opinion.
Because when people say Sharia law, Do you mean the Hanafi Sharia law?
Do you mean the Shafi'sharia law?
Do you mean the Maliki Sharifi?
Do you mean the Hambali Sharifi Sharia law?
Salafis don't really have a Sharia law, but I guess if they were in charge, theirs would be a bit more harsher.
So like, for example, me, I'm Hanafi.
Hanafis are the most lenient when it comes to some of these punishments.
Is that what most of the Muslim world practices?
The Hanafi?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Especially people from Pakistan and India and Bangladesh.
Okay.
And then Central Asia.
Yeah, but the most of the Muslim world.
It's Hanafi.
Yeah, exactly.
And so within there, there is punishment.
But it's like, for example, it's admonishment.
But again, it's only punishment.
It's not punishment for being homosexual.
That's not allowed.
But if you did it in the privacy of your room, you wouldn't actually be punished.
It's when you do public indecencies when you're punished.
Oh.
So the punishment for homosexuality is the same as heterosexual sexual couple having sex in public.
Okay.
Adultery.
Gotcha.
Doing adultery.
Which is that 100, 100 slash.
No, adultery is death, right?
No, so in Hanafi, it's lashes.
Okay.
Yeah.
And again, what is lashes?
Lashes with a paddle.
So it's again to restrict.
I thought it was premarital sex, 100 lashes, right?
If you're not married, but if you're married, it was death.
So in Hanafi, it's premarital is 40.
And then adultery is 120.
Okay, so it's not death.
Which school says it's death?
I believe it's the Shafi school.
Okay.
Which is, I'm guessing, like, because you're people from Sudan were mainly Shafiante.
Yeah, probably, yeah.
They're more extreme.
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I haven't even looked at the YouTube channel.
Are they talking shit?
What else is new?
All right, we'll watch this Adam King thing here with the cows, and then we'll get into Sully's thoughts on Charlie Kirk.
The first slide first before we play the video.
About a month ago, on July 1st, there was an announcement that they were going to do a practice run of the Red Heifer.
And prior to this, the media outrage that the Jews were going to go do this Red Heifer, you had these lunatics like Stu Peters and others who were saying, this is going to usher in the Antichrist, blah, blah, blah.
And it was like a real big media bullagan.
It was really a bad twist.
So they said that they, and also the government wasn't going to let them.
So what they did was they said, we're just going to do a practice one with a disqualified, one of the five disqualified cows.
For those of you that are wondering, this is the guy that I think it was McGinnis.
I think they were doing the debate.
I think Nick Fuentes was debating this guy.
And he asked them, if you had to get rid of one religion, who would it be?
He didn't even think.
He said Catholics immediately.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did say he didn't say Muslims.
Everyone thought he was going to say Muslims.
If you ask him now, he doesn't say it anymore.
He's like, no, no, no, no, that's not what we're meant because he's realized that that doesn't help with the narrative.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Really, Jews and Catholics or Jews and Christians have had beef for 2000 years.
Yeah, wait, yeah, wait, yeah.
This beef with Muslims now is new.
Like, this is like a modern, you know, a modern conflict.
It's a modern conflict.
It's modern situation based on 1940.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Like basically the 20th century shit, right?
But with with their beef with the with the Catholics and the Christians, oh man, that goes thousands of years.
Yeah, throughout history.
Yeah.
You know, they've been most of the countries they've been exiled from, guys, were Christian countries, right?
You know, like when they actually, as a matter of fact, even Rabbi Shmuly admits it to this day that the Ottoman Empire saved them by taking them in in 1492 when they got kicked out of Spain.
This is true.
So basically, so you can blame, there would be no Jews without Muslims.
They literally saved them many times throughout history.
Yeah.
So Memonidas, who's one of their most foremost scholars, literally hates Christians because of them basically trying to excommunicate them and basically kill them off.
Yeah.
This whole Muslim Jewish beef is new because of the conflict in the Middle East.
That's why it's so dumb.
Prior to that, it was always with Christians.
Yeah, and that's why it's so dumb and they always like, oh, these guys would be off beef for a thousand years and they'll continue to beef, which is not true.
The beef was always between Jews and Christians.
Always.
Yeah.
And I think someone was saying it.
The reason why, you know, especially like the devout Jews like this guy, they're still pissed off about when they took the stuff out of the temple.
Like they got menorahs of theirs and old textbooks and shit like that.
So they never let that go.
Right.
So, yeah, but he didn't even hesitate, dude.
It was like, no, it would the Catholic Church, 100%.
I had to get rid of them.
Because they got, I think they have some of their shit in the Vatican somewhere.
The government said, okay, whatever.
They ended up going out, doing a real cow.
The cow's name was Tikva.
They made the offering and I actually...
They fucking named the cow?
It was a real offering.
They did it all.
What does Tikva mean?
No idea.
All Bible.
Anyone speak Hebrew here?
Pause.
And I have with me some of the ashes right here.
Red Heifer ashes.
And it's pretty incredible.
The Red Heifer, the last time that the Red Heifer was done was over 2,000 years ago.
The first time it was done by Moses.
The second time it was done by Ezra from the book in the Bible.
And that shows you how long the ashes can last for.
So, a pure red heifer doesn't come about all the time.
And in this generation, we had 21 of them that were born.
Pure, pure.
They picked seven to bring to uh Israel.
And out of the seven, Israel only allowed them to have five brought in.
And they've been sitting around just doing nothing because the media outrage has been so astronomical about it.
But they, but and they bought them from Texas, if I'm not mistaken, chat.
They spent like half a million dollars getting these cows.
It was not cheap.
But the red heifer people they fooled everybody and they successfully performed the ritual about a month ago.
Now, in the ritual, you're supposed to have hyssop.
I have also hyssop that is from the actual ritual and also the red heifer ashes.
And these get put into a clay jar and then sprinkled on people in a healing ritual.
And it removes the impurity of death and allows for people to heal.
So since this started, they have been sprinkling on people.
There was a man with Alzheimer's who just started remembering everything.
Sight to the blind.
There's some real miracles that have happened in the last month since this thing has gone down.
Is this considered Kabbalah practices?
No, I don't think so.
No, this is not because the ashes, just like I have a little bag, there was 10 and a half gallons of ashes.
And this is only a dime bag full.
And these ashes have been disseminated.
They're here to stay.
They will never be found.
Oh, sorry.
So many people have them.
Sorry, if you're talking about the red heifer sacrifice, no, I think that's normal Judaism.
Okay, but like this ashes stuff.
Yeah, and using it for healing.
I think that is considered Kabbalah.
Okay.
This little bag can.
Would this be considered like witchcraft?
I mean, under and sorcery under like Islam?
This is controversial.
So I'll tell you the two different opinions.
Okay.
So obviously, if you shout out to the other guy with the sub appreciate you, man, on kick.
Good.
Nice.
So according to like, obviously, like Salafis and probably many others, they would say it's not permissible.
This is witchcraft.
Oh, it's not witchcraft, but they call it like bidder, like, you know, something that's a new innovation.
Okay.
And like, you know, maybe even this is disbelief.
Okay.
Whereas Sufis would say, nah, there is like these kind of things that you can do from a spiritual nature that may have certain benefits.
Gotcha.
So it could go either way.
Yeah.
But not something like that, but like more in this like spiritual aspects of it.
Interesting.
Chris in the chat, what is this considered?
Is this considered?
Oh, yeah.
Some of them say, yeah, for Christianity, guys, my Christian guys, would this be considered witchcraft in Christianity?
Christians don't have kind of like a similar thing in terms of like that kind of spiritual aspect.
They don't have it?
No.
Yeah.
So they would probably consider this witchcraft.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, some of these, some of the Muslims in here are saying, no, it's witchcraft.
Yeah, yeah, they will.
A lot of them may believe that.
Yeah.
Witchcraft, yeah, satanic, New Testament witchcraft, heresy.
Yeah, I'm just looking at all the different things here.
All right, lots of different opinions.
But I'm right about Sufism, right?
You guys agree, like within Sufi tradition, they have this concept.
Like, for example, you know, in so, for example, actually, all Muslims believe this, right?
You know, when a when a child is born, you sacrifice an animal and then you give that animal to people as like um as um as like a uh you know as as as a way of blessings so muslims believe in blessings right yeah they believe in good reward and they believe the blessings will come but then the difference is that like sufis may believe that like let's say things are going wrong for you if you were to sacrifice an animal maybe it may bring things that are better for you because maybe that evil eye that you've
will be taken away by sacrificing the animal.
Damn.
Okay.
Power about 10,000 doses.
Bro has a fucking cow bag of cocaine.
Power about...
That makes it sound like a really potent cocaine.
Packs a bunch, yeah.
This is the stuff right here, man.
Test it for fentanyl.
This is the...
But we could go smoke this after the show, but no, I'm just kidding.
Come back from the dead after you do something like that.
But I have a video from The Ritual, and if you want to play it, I don't know if you're...
It has copyrighted music.
Can you slide it so people can see the slide?
Yeah, I've been doing another one.
So these are the slides of the actual...
Yeah, yeah.
Of the actual ceremony being taken place, and that's...
Yeah, they kill the cow, then they burn it, right?
And everything was done specifically according to halakha, which is Jewish law.
It was a perfect cow, and meaning that it doesn't have a single...
Okay, halakha law, is there a Sharia law?
Yeah.
Okay.
...hair that is not...
And it's stricter than...
Isn't it stricter than...
Yeah, much stricter, right?
More stricter.
And also, it could never have been burdened with work.
So, you can't even lean a shovel up against the cow.
They have to be treated in a very specific way for their whole life.
And then the person who does the ritual can never have been in contact with death.
So, basically, they're not allowed to go to it.
They have to be of a specific bloodline.
And what they do was they raise these children in these elevated homes above the ground, and they never leave the home until they're ready to do the rituals.
And that's like how they never come into contact with death.
So, the priest who did this literally lived in his home for over 20 years before he never left?
Nope.
Because he was born to do this ritual.
Wow.
And now that it's been done, the Messiah can come.
Okay, so this is you're talking about the return of the return of the Mac.
Here we go.
So, so this is like the Jewish Messiah is going to come back.
Would that be similar?
Would that be the return of Christ?
Or would it be a different thing?
Here's the thing.
I think the most fundamental difference between Judaism and Christianity.
Antichrist is the same.
Yeah, return of Antichrist.
Reincarnation.
You notice whenever Jews like him or Ben Shapiro are asked about Jesus, they dance around it.
Yeah, yeah.
Like they're like, go to church.
Like, you know, like, they, you know, they don't want to say that they reject him, right?
Like, I've noticed that when they do these interviews, they really dance around this hard.
Yeah.
Which is always funny.
I remember when Shapiro was asked by a jurogan, he said, oh, Jesus is a rebel.
And then he got what he deserved.
He got what he deserved, right?
Yeah.
But this was a long, this is like years ago, right?
This is when his fanboys would just not even pick up.
Like 2016, 2017.
Yeah.
So now they're way more cautious when they do these interviews.
But the reality is, like, they look at him as a sorcerer, right?
Like, they look at him like he's completely rejected.
Yeah.
He's degenerate.
He's like a rebel.
He's somebody who basically, he's basically someone who can't be accepted.
Like he did something that was harm, harmful to society and he had to be taken out.
Okay.
And so the Messiah is here in every generation.
And there's a process by which we are awakened enough to accept the Messiah.
So if the Messiah doesn't come, he dies.
He's reconstituted, born into the Matrix again, and has to find his way back to another thing.
We can't build the temple until this happened.
And now that this happened, the Messiah can come build the third temple in Jerusalem.
All right.
So hit us with the case that the end.
What are your thoughts on?
And if you want me to show you a video by the way, pull up a video or anything like that, let me know.
What are your thoughts on Charlie Kirk?
So you have your theory here with Israel.
You want to take us through it real quick?
Yeah, Carl.
Yeah, take your time.
So I think what it is, is there's the reasoning.
I thought the strongest reasoning open till Candace Owens released the latest texts, which kind of showed that, first of all, it confirmed and proved that there was the Jewish donor who did pull out.
And also the fact that in a group chat, Charlie Kirk literally said, like, I'm not going to, like, I'm going to turn on Israel.
I'm not going to be supporting Israel anymore.
Now, many people would argue that, wait a sec, how would they be able to plan the death within 48 hours?
You know, the assassination.
But if you think about it logically.
And they had that thing booked for a while.
The arena.
The event.
Where they did it, yeah.
Which they can do because the arena being booked doesn't mean you can get like, you don't, you know, how long does it take to get a shooter out there?
Now, you could do it in two days.
But what's more likely is that this wouldn't have been the first person or the first person he told.
He could have said this to many other people in terms of Robert Shillman pulling out and the fact that he wants to return on Israel.
So I don't think this was the first incident.
Furthermore, I think that the biggest motive for why he was going to turn on Iran is sorry, turn on Israel is because of the war in Iran.
So one of my sources who is close friends with Charlie Kirk said that during the first war with Iran, Charlie Kirk was the only person who was against American war with Iran.
Yeah, and didn't he go to the White House about this?
Yeah, he did.
So that's confirmed true.
He went there and Trump told him, no, we're not talking about this, right?
Well, that bit Max Source didn't say that bit was from Max Blumenthal.
The fact that Trump got angry with him and threw him out or whatever.
Okay.
And there were witnesses there.
Sorry?
And there were witnesses there, right?
Was this like at the Oval Office or some other event?
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Oh, he went to the Oval Office and said this shit.
Okay.
Directly to Trump.
Yeah.
So my one is he said it to Trump.
Max Brumensal says he said it to Trump and Trump got angry.
But the point is, both of us, both of our sources say that Charlie Kirk was the only person against the war with Iran.
Okay.
Pete Hegseth, what's his name again?
Rubio, Vance, all were supporting the war with Iran.
Really?
I heard it was Mike Waltz that was for it.
Rubio surprisingly said, no, he wasn't for it.
Yeah.
At least that's what I heard.
Yeah, that's publicly.
That's fake.
Like everything they bring out in the public is like never true.
Okay.
And you remember they made it look like Vanessa.
So the whole cabinet was saying war.
Yeah.
And only Charlie Kirk was the one against it.
And obviously, as me and you know, like, Iran really did smash Israel up quite a bit.
And so America decided to not get involved.
And that's a problem.
Now, they're planning to go to war with Iran again, as we know.
And it's going to happen, we believe, within the next couple of months.
But whenever it happens, it's quite clearly being demonstrated.
Israel cannot defeat Iran.
And without American support, they need America to be involved.
If America's not involved, Israel will lose the war and they will cease to exist.
And so you've got your existence on the line.
How long do you think they would last?
I give it a week.
How long do you think they'd last if they didn't have U.S. support?
Yeah, less than a week.
Because even these 12 days, they were struggling.
A few more days or at least another week.
Do you think Jordan and Egypt would crush their fucking Cam David accords and just go in and support the other Arabs?
Well, you don't even need that, though.
That's what's the interesting thing.
Like, as long as those countries weren't helping Israel, Iran would just destroy him.
So if no one supported Israel, they'd be gone within days.
So when you look at the Iran situation, you look at the fact that he was turning on Israel.
And based on these leaks, it's a lot more significant than I thought.
There is extreme motive, and they have the best motive to take to get Israel.
Now, in terms of, sorry, in terms of killing Kirk, now, in terms of killing Kirk, there's two possibilities.
And the problem that you've got is that there's so many kooky people telling fake stories that you don't, what happens is they do this on purpose as part of an intelligence operation.
So you know like how in 9-11, you had the real question marks about what happened.
You have the official narrative, then you had the real question marks, and then they'd come up with kooky stories like there was no planes, it was remote control, and all these kind of things.
Speaking of which, Ryan Dawson released the re-release of the 9-11 thing.
What I'm thinking is, I don't know how long you, because I know you've had a long day today.
You've been doing, how many interviews you did today?
Like four?
I've done quite a few.
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, you're going hard in the paint.
What I was thinking, guys, is we'll do our discussion here and then we're going to cut to OSS and then react to that documentary.
Cool.
And we'll watch like an hour of it together.
OSS only, of course, my community.
But yeah, did you watch it already or though?
Yeah, I watched it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he re-released it, guys.
He released the Empire Unmasked.
So we're going to watch it.
Better quality.
So it's going to be lit.
We'll watch it together here.
Watch about an hour or whatever.
So I don't hold Sullivan on your program.
I went to South Korea and I watched it with Dawson before it got released.
And then it wasn't the final version.
It was like very close to the final version.
But it was so good.
So, oh, shit, we got Bills in.
Okay, guys, I'm trying to do like some text shit here on the side.
So Sully, thank you so much for helping me out with keeping them entertained while I do this text shit.
But, well, Bills is here now, so I think I should be okay.
Okay, so take us through the Charlie A. Give us your theory.
Why do you think he was involved?
Why do you think Israel was involved?
What's your evidence for it?
You know, where do you stand as of today?
Because I know people change their views every single day.
Obviously, Candace Owens blew the lid open yesterday, released a bunch of text messages from a group chat.
So go ahead and take us through.
So I've explained the motive.
And in terms of how it was done, so like I said, sorry, with September the 11th, they create extravagant theories.
So you don't question the real narrative because people are like, whoa, these are kooky.
So some of like the kooky theories are like, oh, it was the pager attack.
There were drone attacks.
There was like 10 shooters.
You know, there was movement, like his, his security detail were helping out.
Like, I think all these things are crazy and wacky, but this is part of an intelligence operation.
Like when I was mentioning about September the 11th, they did that on purpose because the hijackers were linked to Mossad, right?
And Mossad, how are we handling them?
Yes, one of the guys, the Lebanese guy, for those of you guys that are wondering for 9-11, fuck, there was a Lebanese guy.
His cousin, first cousin, was a spy for Mossad against Hezbollah.
That's right, yeah.
Yes.
But in addition to, and this time, Ryan Dawson showed a number of the other hijackers connected to Mossad.
Oh, so there's not just one anymore?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so what that demonstrates is when they do these theories, it actually sometimes hides Israeli involvement.
Because if there's no hijackers, there's no Israeli involvement.
Except for the dancing Israelis and the people in the, do you know what I mean?
I see what you're saying.
And the R students.
I see what you're saying.
So I'm against those people who are doing these kind of extravagant stories like Ryan Matter.
But generally speaking, I do think that there was Israeli involvement because so there's two theories that I think are credible.
One is it was Tyler Robinson.
Okay.
All right.
So you do believe that Tyler Robinson had a play in this and it was a shooter?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's what I'm 50-50 on it.
Okay.
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