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Oct. 8, 2025 - MyronGainesX
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How Oct 7, 2023 Changed EVERYTHING With Sulaiman Ahmed!
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Every single time, every single crime, every single lie.
Every single hour, every single day, every single night.
I know it's hard to believe it's the whole forest, not one tree, and it's every branch and leaf.
They're born to deceive.
But I'm telling you the truth.
It's not just one or two, it's every single Jew.
They all hate you.
And it really breaks my heart, but the eyes are off the charge, and they only bring a spine.
So if you want to be safe and don't want to take the place, it's best you start being based.
Or you'll get it every single time, every single crime, every single lie.
Every single hour, every single day, every single night, early lie.
I know it's hard to accept that all the ones you've met lie with every single breath.
They want you dead But you must not be weak Just open your eyes and see, they always exploit the me.
See their vampire tea.
And it can make you cry to learn, your life was full of lies.
And that face was a disguise.
But you must fight.
So if you want to live and protect all of your kin, you have to grow thick skin.
Or we want to...
Every single time, every single crime, every single lie.
Early lie.
Every single hour, every single day, every single night.
Early lie.
It's not my fault that I have to do this.
You only pick on me because I'm Jewish.
a jealous loser and go get a job.
I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God If I don't run your media, someone else will.
If I don't edit Wikipedia, someone else will.
If I don't limit your reach, someone else will.
If I don't censor speech, someone else will.
If I don't blow up your kill, someone else will.
If I don't attack you as shit, someone else will.
If I don't steal your face, someone else will.
If I don't run federal rains, it's not my fault that I have to do this.
You always pick on me because I'm due with Stop being a jealous loser and go get a job.
I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God If I don't steal your land, someone else will.
If I don't engage in scale, someone else will.
If I don't buy your politician, someone else will.
If I don't do false flag missions, someone else will.
If I don't control your bag, someone else will.
If I don't crush people with tang, someone else will.
Someone else will.
If I don't control it all.
It's not my fault that I have to do this.
You only pick on me because I'm dealing with Stop being a jealous loser and go get a job.
I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God
Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We blew our friends away and blame Thomas today.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We knew it was coming.
But baby needed war drumming War drumming, drumming Final five years of genocide and still these palace won't die these terrorists are a big thorn in our side
All these little babies are driving me crazy They are all Hamas, there are no maybes Happy handle day.
Happy handle day.
We blew our friends away and blame Hamas today.
Happy handy bull day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We knew it was coming, but baby needed war drumming The final solution to the Palestinian problem Is let false flags happen So we could solve them.
We let Hamas fly over our walls and kill thousands of our friends.
Then a helicopters kill them all.
And we blame Tomos in the end.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We blew our friends away.
And blame Thomas today.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We knew it was coming.
but baby needed Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We blew our friends away and blame Thomas today.
Happy Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day.
We knew it was coming.
But baby, you need it, what?
Drumming.
You need it, what?
Drumming.
You need it, what?
Drumming.
Alright, what's up, guys?
Welcome.
Hold on, let me turn up the stream here a little bit.
Turn up my volume.
Okay, we are live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the stream.
Welcome to the stream.
I'm here with uh Sulyman.
Let me actually move this chat out the way a little bit.
Um you want to say what's up to the people?
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Uh good to be on your show and looking forward to speaking about October 7th.
All right.
Um, let me just adjust some of the sound real fast.
I know we're coming in a little low, probably, right, chat?
So let me got a guest in the studio.
Which you guys don't see all.
All right.
Sorry, I think I might have blew out your eardrums there for a second.
Sorry about that, guys.
But yeah, we got uh someone else.
Can you say what's up to the people real quick on the mic?
Yeah, guys, uh, can you hear me?
Yeah, yeah, I think they got the good readings right there.
Perfect, perfect, perfect.
And I'm gonna turn your mic up a little bit.
Cool.
All right, I think we're good, man.
Um, yeah, sorry guys for the delay.
I was uh getting everything um, I was getting everything ready in the background.
Um, as you guys know, I'm not the most technology savvyest person ever.
But uh we got it done.
Yeah, we're we're figuring it out.
Um, let's see here.
There's something else.
If I'm trying to see here if there's something else I need to do.
Um cool.
No, man, but uh take us to Happy Hannibal Day.
Oh, and by the way, if you guys are wondering, the name of that song was uh Hannibal Day.
Happy Hannibal Day by uh Lucas Gage.
You guys are wondering.
Here it is right here for you guys.
I'll give you guys a link real quick.
Um I already know you guys are gonna ask me, yo, bro, we'll stay with that song, man.
All right, got you all right now.
I'll drop it in the chat for you guys.
Okay.
There it is.
So you guys can go ahead and um enjoy.
But uh, but yeah, Sullivan, real quick.
Uh, if you can introduce yourself to the people, whatever for the people that might not be familiar, I obviously they see me join a bunch of your spaces and stuff like that.
But um, but yeah.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
It's uh Suleiman.
I'm on X. I'm quite big on X. Uh, I've got a large following as well as obviously I do the biggest spaces on X as well, talking about geopolitics, both in the mid well in the Middle East, United States of America, and the UK.
I'm a little bit more towards uh the left.
Uh so I give a credit to Myron and a few others who are willing to have these conversations and ha and speak to various people who maybe have different opinions.
Yeah, yeah, and you just got done uh wrapping up an interview with um with Elijah.
How's that?
Yeah, that was really good.
That was more about Islam Islam in the West.
Okay, and um kind of that idea because obviously they kind of have like a certain perception of Islam.
Of course.
And so it's always good to like have those conversations and break it down because a lot, I think a lot of things is based on propaganda and misconceptions and misunderstandings.
Yeah, like um that they're gonna destroy the world and everything, right?
Yeah, that or there's an invasion, or they're trying to take over, and or they're this kind of like it's not it's not compatible with the West and these type of conversations.
So I think they're like really important conversations to have because like when you break it down, you say to the people like what do you actually mean?
Like what aspects of it do you believe are not congruent with the Western society, or how is it Islam's trying to take over?
Those arguments you find are not very strong, and it's mainly based on something they've been taught or something they heard rather than something based on something cogent.
Gotcha.
Um yeah, especially with uh with what's going on in the uh in the UK, right?
They have like this what's the uh percentage because here in the US, we're only like one or two percent of the population.
What what about in uh the UK?
What's the population?
Six percent.
Okay.
So it's like triple.
Well, no, well, because America's a bigger country.
How many how many millions of people are Muslim there?
Um so it's um six percent of 70 million.
So what's that?
Um four million.
Yeah, there's only 70 million people there.
Yeah, yeah.
UK is not that big.
Because we got like three, I think 300 million here in US.
Yeah, you got about 350, right?
Yeah.
And then you know.
And you guys have got more Jews here than Muslims, right?
Yeah, how is there like a Muslim takeover?
And let's not even consider, let's not even take into consideration that they control everything.
But yeah, just from a sheer numbers.
From a number, yeah, we have the most here.
Yeah, outside of Israel, yeah, we got the most here.
And then But isn't it double the double Jews compared to Muslims in the US?
I don't know if it's double, but I do know it's it's a lot.
We have them between New York City, LA, um I think it might be more than uh Miami.
Yeah.
So yeah, they definitely have six, seven million Jews in the US, right?
Or seven or eight million Jews.
Uh yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if if that wasn't a number.
Um, so uh I guess we'll get into kind of like October 7th, man.
Um obviously the two-year anniversary.
Yeah, there was um a lot of things have happened um since.
Um do you kind of want to uh give everybody like an overview of what happened on that day, or you know, we you could just start it off wherever you want.
So I know I know you have a lot to say about this, and you know, I've talked about October 7th quite a bit.
So maybe maybe it'll refresh the audience here in other words.
Yeah, yeah, cost cost.
So, like we'll we'll let's talk about the beheaded babies first.
Oh, sure.
Okay, you want to debunk them?
You don't even want to go over what happened that day, or you want to go over to myths.
We can do, um, I mean, what happened on the day was the Palestinians broke into um Israel.
Um, and the reason they broke in was quite simple.
They wanted to get uh to get Israeli military hostages and bring them back to um Gaza and then trade them for Palestinian hosta uh for Palestinian hostages because they've got a significant number of Palestinian hostages held in prisons, men, women and children who have not been given a trial, or they've been given being put through these fall phony military courts where 99.5% of people, basically everyone except one person, has been found guilty.
So therefore they're not really caught.
It's like Hamas taking their hostages right now and saying, Oh, guess what?
We put them through a court and now they're all guilty.
Yeah, yeah.
It's the exact same situation.
Yeah, so that's and there's like 11,000 over there total prisoners in in uh Israel.
Exactly.
11,000.
Exactly.
There's 11,000, and then they compared that to like what is it now?
It's in it's like 30 or 40 right now, but initially there was 200.
And they never wanted 200.
The aim was just the military hostages and to take them back to Israel.
Now, what happened obviously on that day was there's a few things that happened.
The first thing is obviously many people think there was a step-down order.
Um I'm kind of I'm looking into that in a lot of detail because I'm writing a book on it.
Okay, and I'm still not 100% sure either way on that.
Okay, so you're not sold on a you're not sold in a stand-down order.
I'm not, yeah.
I'm not.
Okay.
Uh and so I'm looking into it a lot more.
And the reason I'm not sold on it is because I actually think the good because you're skeptical because people love love to run with narrative.
So, like you, you know, obviously, for you're like, no, I need to like really, you know, make sure I have this right.
Because everyone thinks you know, everyone's like, oh, it was a stuff.
There had to be a stand-down order or whatever, which you know, I guess it kind of makes sense because you know that border is extremely secure.
Yeah, but at the same time, it's like but go ahead, people are.
As you said, extremely secure.
They took about six hours in a large number of areas.
There's certain videos of soldiers claiming that there was a step-down order.
There was um what you call it again in the stock market, the Israeli stock market, people short of the market.
So there is like a number of things that do kind of give this indication that there was possibly a step-down order.
On the other side, there's the people who claim that there's a step-down order, the main sources of them, they were they're actually Zionists.
And so for me, what I always see about the Israelis, they want Israelis, they always want to give this kind of perspective that they are untouchable, they are unbeatable, no one can take them out, they're unpenetrable.
And they always give the psychology.
Now, Mossad in itself is quite good, right?
But the Israeli army, the IDF, is extremely incompetent.
I don't think they're as good as people claim.
And they've struggled.
You saw they lost to get in Lebanon.
Yes.
I was talking about this yesterday.
That that um the Israelis actually like their ground game and like their actual on the boots, uh boots on the ground, military is not as strong as people think.
Yeah, it's very weak, right?
And they make the same military mistakes despite people telling them they made the mistakes.
So I always give this example.
I think I mentioned it on your show before, but I'm sure you are.
No, go for it.
Told them like 200 um six when they lost the Lebanon War.
The American military analysis was that one of the major mistakes they made when they lost was they would bomb.
The bombing would cause destruction of buildings and it would cause rubble.
And what would happen is tanks would struggle to go past the rubble, right?
And cause tanks would struggle to get past the rubble, they'd need to bring bulldozers in to remove the rubble.
Now, while they're doing that whole procedure, the Lebanese army would come in and just take them out.
That's the exact same thing they're still doing in Gaza.
The only difference is Hamas's army isn't a legitimate army, right?
It's a very uh it's a paramilitary, it's kind of it's not very structured.
So why I'm giving that example is they continue to make the same mistakes when military and uh uh analyzers are telling them these are mistakes.
And so that tells you not only are they weak from a soldier perspective, they're weak from a military perspective as well and strategy.
Uh and you're seeing that you saw that in the Iran-Israel war, right?
Like a lot of the decisions they made were when it was off the cuff was weak.
So the very first day they did really well because it was planned, it was pre-planned, they got the US as they normally do, right?
Which has happened historically.
They always perfectly blended their military action alongside their intelligence operatives, right?
So like take everything down at a certain time, and then as they're taking down the air defense, the jets are flying over, shooting the missiles in.
Well, I don't even think they actually managed to shoot that many missiles in.
The vast majority of the attack on the first day was from with the inside Iran.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, because they had they had built drones inside the country.
Yes, they basically had a number of Mossad agents in.
And so they but they were the biggest thing what made him succeed was Trump lying to uh to um the Iranians.
And I forget they got attacked on a Thursday or Friday, and they're supposed to have negotiations on Sunday, bro.
Exactly.
So cause they manipulate and remember, this is America's done this.
Remember, they did this in the 1968 war.
In the 19 uh 67 war, sorry.
Yeah, the six-day war.
Uh they basically uh, if you remember Nasser, he uh never wanted to fight Israel.
He never planned to fight Israel.
He actually just made certain moves to make it look like like he's you know bolstering because the Jordanians want them to wanted them to like do something and he didn't want to do anything.
This came up on my debate with destiny.
He was saying that oh, the Egyptians were mobilizing, so they're a right to strike first.
Yeah, which is fake.
Literally, yeah.
The Egyptians were in um Yemen.
Oh.
Right.
The Egyptians were fighting in Yemen.
Pull this up on a map.
In uh 67 because Nasser basically was supporting the socialist, the socialist movement in Yemen.
So you had Nasser supporting the socialists in Yemen, and you had America, Israel, and uh United Kingdom supporting the other side.
Okay, and so he had half his army there.
Let me just give these guys a visual representation real quick.
Okay.
Okay.
So where were they you said they were stationed in Yemen?
Yemen, yeah.
Okay, so he had he had a bunch of he had half his army in Yemen.
Why?
Training or fighting.
Fight over.
So he was supporting the Yemenese socialists because he wanted them to be the leaders of Yemen.
Okay.
And the Americans, the Brits, and less so the Israelis, but they were supporting the other side.
Okay.
So it was an internal war within Yemen.
There's always been civil wars there, man.
Exactly.
But there was internal civil war within Yemen, and they both wanted someone else to win because obviously Egypt was quite strong.
So half is they were in no position to even fight Israel.
Which makes no sense.
So if half because people were saying that he was moving up towards the side of the peninsula.
Unless he's extremely retarded, right?
Yeah, he's not gonna have half his army in Yemen, and then what happens is cause half his army's in Yemen, he never wants to fight Israel.
So he actually ends up when Israel attacks, he ends up fighting Israel with the other half or half of the army.
And so that just demonstrates A that there was never a plan to fight because how he wouldn't split half his army and half his army.
And uh also obviously that's the reason Israel won.
Now, oh sorry, the why I was telling you the story is because the day before Israel strikes, Nasser doesn't want to fight.
And he says, I've started.
I'm hearing that Israel is about attackers.
So he gets on the phone with LBJ, and he's like, Israel gonna fight attackers?
Yep.
And he's like, nah, bruv.
Trust me.
No, They're not gonna fight attack you.
Like you have my word, bruv.
Like it's not gonna happen.
Uh oh no, 67 is gonna be Lyndon B. Johnson, I think is an office.
Yeah, oh man.
And obviously, you know his Yeah, Linda B. Johnson is uh you guys, oh man.
If you you could think Linda B. Johnson for this pro-Israel uh foreign policy that we have.
He was like the first president to really start being uh you know a show for the Israelis was Lyndon B. Johnson.
And his and a lot of people don't like hearing this, but you know, he does have uh females on uh females on his women on the female side of his family, excuse me, that are Jewish.
So he does have some Jewish uh he was having relations with uh Mossad operative, right?
Yes, he was, yeah.
And her strange boyfriend, which they had some kind of weird threesome thing going on where he would watch, but whatever.
Yeah, he yeah, that's another thing.
He had an affair with uh with uh Israeli intelligence operative, guys, Linda B. Johnson.
Yeah, but then he's he's the one who um so Lyndon B. Johnson basically tells Nasser, don't worry, they're not gonna attack.
So he just chills out.
He's been like the president of the United States, and then they attack.
So it's the same thing as what Trump did.
Wow.
So if you actually look at it, isra Israel got a lot of help even in that war because he got promised, like if he'd known that Israel was gonna attack, if he hadn't listened to LBJ, he would have tried and get his army back.
Now it would have been difficult to get it in one day, but like he would have put certain procedures in place to make sure that Israelis, and of course the Israelis attacked and just blitzed.
Well, that makes sense because um that makes sense that half the military was gone.
Yeah, yeah, because it would they had a they handed them, it was only a six day, it wasn't even a guess why they call it a six-day war.
It was literally just like Israel destroyed them, right?
Like there's no denying that, but they destroyed him because of the reasons I said.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, okay.
So we covered you know, let's go into real quick, uh look just backing up real fast.
What do you think were the top reasons that October 7th happened?
Um from uh from uh Hamas's perspective.
Yeah, from Hamas.
I mean, I think the main reason was because they wanted to get their hostages.
Yeah, and they wanted to basically uh negotiate and convert those hostages for um for Palestinian hostages.
But the second reason is obviously they were concerned that what is gonna happen was there was gonna be some kind of overarching Abraham Accords which would leave them without a place.
And remember, you have to remember, like, like you think this is like uh a bad maneuver, but if you look at it from this perspective, they've been ghettoized in that region since 67, right?
Because if Israel wanted, they could have done one two things.
They won the war, right?
They could either bring Gaza and the West Bank as part of Israel, yeah, right, or they could have given it separate state, but they didn't want to do either.
They didn't want to give him a separate state, quite clearly, because they don't want Palestine to have a state, but they didn't want to incorporate as part of Israel because then they have a minority population.
Yeah.
So the third option was So I was trying to explain to Brandon Tatum that like they they would never have a one state because they would have to maintain the majority.
Exactly.
That's why they call it the Jewish state.
Yeah.
But sorry, keep it.
And and remember, like um they do their plan even since uh 40 48 was always we want to have 8020.
We always want to have more Jews, like 80 or 75% Jews compared to um the you know the Arab or the Well, also because they know that you know, if they were to allow the Palestinians to assimilate in, they would quickly lose the advantage because they have kids faster.
They have more kids.
Exactly.
I agree with you.
You know, because they claim they claim that Israel's birth rate is quite high, but I think that's a lie.
You don't think it's as high, you don't think it's higher than us here in America though, right?
I think they're lying.
Oh, you think they're lying about that?
Bro, like they're all LGBTQ, gay, like into feminism.
I think they're lying.
Fair enough.
Yeah, fair enough.
They do call like the gay capital of the Middle East pretty much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think they're lying.
I don't think that's true.
Um, so like that's the second reason.
The because that what will have happened is they were afraid of So number one was you would say hostages.
Number one's hostage.
To do a hostage negotiation.
And it's it's funny because Western media never talks about that.
You know, that like, oh, they just went in there to just want to kill and pillage everybody.
Um, but I'm like, dude, it's it's about getting hostages.
And even like the pillaging thing, like there's no evidence of that, right?
Like you've been through it so much in the last two years, I've been through it.
Like there's zero, except for like, and we're honest, right?
I think like we're not like blind.
So after seeing or reviewing the footage, There was possibly two or three incidences where someone's intentionally killed a civilian.
Yeah.
And uh there's one that they didn't show us, but I've we've seen it now because they released it, but we'd we already knew about it because what happened.
You're talking about the 45 minute video, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So guys, whenever they tell you, and I might as well tell the audiences.
There's this video out there.
It's like a 45 minute, fit 48 minute, 50 minutes, somewhere in that range compilation video.
Yeah, okay, where the Israeli government compiled all the GoPro footage and all the different cameras they had, camera angles they had, and they did like a compilation of what happened on October 7th.
And you've seen the video in full, right?
I haven't watched this video.
I've watched them.
They've not no, they've not released it to the public.
So what I've seen is the website full of all the videos.
That's I've seen all of that.
The scan code that he gave to the UN when he was at the UN.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I've seen all that and the ones they released on the website.
But this 48 minute video, what they try and make it look like is a lot of it is Hamas fighters getting killed in there, too.
Yeah, cost.
It's a lot of it is them like dying, like on well, because they had these GoPros, and it's them getting shot and dying on camera.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Like it's so it's like a lot of people running.
Yeah.
Like running and trying to get to like high like hiding into some places.
But yeah, the the the crap that they talked about, like the beheaded babies, but babies, there's you don't see any of that.
Oh, there's zero of that, zero rape, zero everything, like literally none of that exists in the videos.
There's four four incidences where you'd say, look, there is a possibility it's worth having a conversation about three, like I said, where there's there's a shooting, one looks like an assassination.
Um, and again, you don't know what happened before, what happened after, but just on the sniper, yeah, right.
And then there's one video which like there were reporters who watched it.
We weren't them.
Uh Owen Jones is one.
Obviously, like many people disagree with him, but the point is he said, Look, I've seen the video and I've seen the other footage, and there's only like one extra incident that you would say is like problematic, and this this incident that they released about a month or two ago, which is that there's a father and two children.
The father runs into like this shelter and then they throw like a grenade.
I did see that one, yeah.
That resurfaced again like a uh earlier this month, yeah.
So the last month.
So that's the only thing you'd say is extra, which is intentional killing, which is in the 48 minute video.
So that's it, really.
Um, so there's like full still horrible, right?
And we like it's not acceptable, right?
So those people, I think, those people who did it, if it is, and we don't know, let's look at this unless they are guilty, they should be tried.
And they should like, you know, they should be tried in caught.
Like, we don't agree with that.
We don't agree with vigilanteism, right?
There's certain rules and ethics, both within Western society, which we agree with, and within Islam, which we agree with that you can't do, and this is an example of something that you shouldn't do.
Um, so like, yeah, but this whole idea that all of it happened like that is completely incorrect.
Like the vast majority of people, as you know, were killed by Israel.
Um, you had what 1,150, at least 400 of them are um soldiers, and then you had 750, and then they deployed the Hannibal Directive.
You had uh uh a shelling into certain kibbutzes.
I would say, like, if you ask me, Sulaiman, how much in people do you think Israel uh Hamas actually killed?
I'd probably say like 200, 250.
That makes the most sense based on the situation.
I pegged it around 600.
Hamas killed.
Yeah, at most, at most 600 they killed.
How could there be 600 though?
Because like 1,150, take away 400 soldiers, 750.
Yep.
So you're saying uh Israel only killed like 100.
Yeah.
Like just to give you the depth of how many people they killed, two or three.
I'm saying 600 at most.
At most.
At most is what I'm saying.
Yeah, of course, like logically, that could be the backs, but like I'm saying, like what I do I actually think.
I think 200.
You think 200 kickbacks by by Hamas route.
Yeah, because just let's let's just take the Apache helicopter.
Okay.
So the Apache helicopter.
Which matter of fact, let me pull that up right now because because this is something that Brandon Tatum tried to tell me, like, oh, uh, you know, Hamas killed all these people.
I was like, bro, like are you aware that literally those uh Apache helicopters like the raining hellfire missiles down?
And the way, like, Hamas doesn't have that capability, people are burnt to a crisp.
Yeah, you know, but go ahead, keep going.
I'm yeah, and you're right.
And uh when they deployed the Hannibal directive, right, which is what this guy claimed, right?
This uh TM guy, he was like, because I could read his, I think some Israelis send him a script because he read it on his laptop, right?
Yeah, yeah, the whole time.
Like, I don't know what that is, and then he said, Oh, I've just read the Hannibal directive.
It's the and then you used the Israeli land that is soldiers, yeah.
Nowhere someone like him would have been like coming up with that argument on the other hand.
And here you go, right here.
Video released by Israeli Army shows helicopters firing indiscriminately on October 7th.
Yeah, and you can hear that like you guys can see I and this is why I told Tatum, I was like, yo, it's like thermal vision, bro.
You can't tell who's who.
Exactly.
So it was blown up cars.
How can you tell if that's a soldier or civilian?
Yeah, like you can't tell, like what what they are.
Like it just you just see green, and they were told fire at everything.
Do not let anything get back into the strip.
True.
You know, so um, but yeah, here's the here's the footage, guys.
Like, you guys are literally seeing these these cars are getting absolutely d demolished.
But sorry, you were saying And so on this, if you had so they've done this, right?
Like you said, the demolition places, they killed 200 Hamas people from this hellfire missiles.
Okay, that okay, that actually they killed more, but 200 of them were burnt so badly, yeah, that they thought they were Israelis.
Yeah, they couldn't.
Did you remember the original number was so high?
Yeah, 2000.
Yeah, and they reduced it.
And one of the arguments was argument was is that 200 of the Hamas members.
We thought they were Israelis, but later on we found out the Hamas.
Gotcha.
Yeah, because the original figure was 2,000 dead.
Yeah.
And then they revised it down on 1,200.
And so what that tells you is if they've killed 200 Hamas members, minimum, they probably killed more than that because this is the ones they confused as Israelis.
So they probably killed 3, 400 Hamas members from hellfire missiles.
200 of them they thought they was their own people, but they end up being Hamas.
Means they've probably killed about one, 200 at least Israelis.
Because they're just bombarding.
So if we think that they killed about one, two hundred from the Apache helicopters, and then from kibbutzbury.
Like we got these people running here.
Look, you can see them right there, and they're just like blowing them up.
Yeah, guns, all that.
But guard, keep going.
Yeah, and then kibbutzbury.
Kibbutzbury is really important because um that was the place where one of the babies was killed, you know.
Um, and what the uh Israeli um newspaper said, and what they confirmed, and what the uh military leaders confirmed is that they were basically at using artillery fire indiscriminately in kibbutzbury, right?
And so what we know again in kibbutzbury is Israelis were firing indiscriminately, and uh but I believe a hundred and twenty people were killed, the vast majority by Israel.
So if they've killed, let's say 70, 80 people there, 200 there were already knocking three, four hundred off just from two locations.
So I this is what that's why I get to the figure of 200.
I think then you take kibbutz Kaffar, you take the other various uh places, you take Nova Festival, they've killed a lot of their own people.
Yeah, the people who were driving back.
So and they're and they were frantically trying to get in uh get involved too.
Like they didn't know what was going on, you know, because I think when Hamas invaded, didn't they?
One of the first things they do is destroy the radio towers.
Yeah, they did.
That was like one of the first things they did.
Yeah, they did.
And they and they targeted the military bases and they targeted the kibbutz, and the kibbutz have military personnel in there.
Matter of fact, you know who did a real good video on this?
Let me find it.
Keep going.
Yeah, yeah.
And so the kibbutzes have military personnel in there, and that's the reason for it.
So, like a lot of these videos that show of women being taken uh in, that they those women were actual soldiers.
Um, so that's basically one of the things that happened.
So I thought that was interesting.
Let me see here.
I think this is the yeah, this is your like the original video right here.
This comes in, you guys know I like this channel.
It's it's called Propaganda and Co.
It's a funny video.
Sorry, funny name of the channel.
Uh let me see here.
I think they covered wall and destroy the Israeli arrogance and complacency to plan and operate relatively undetected in the early hours of October 7th, a blip.
So this will give you guys a quick little summary of what went down on that morning, and then we'll keep going into because I know you uh we're talking about the Abraham course, we'll come back to like the the reasons.
Of over 2200 rockets were fired at the Iron Dome Missile Defense System, but this was only truly meant to provide the cover needed to fly drones over the 1 billion dollar iron wall and destroy the remote controlled machine gun turrets and communication towers.
They rammed through the first layer of defense and then created over 20 separate breach points through the main iron wall.
Their immediate objectives take out important nearby command and control military sites.
Now, uh can you explain real quick to the audience?
Um kibbutzes, how that works, and then why how they have these things set up here on the border?
Yeah, so the Nahal Oz is a military air base, military base.
So that's the reason they targeted that kibbutz Reim is a kibbutz, and again, they targeted that because what happens is these kibbutzes have military personnel in there.
Yeah, and so kibbutz is like a I guess crude way of saying this as like maybe a neighborhood.
Uh yeah, I mean you could say that little homes like in a it's like a sanctuary area, but it's not a sanctuary because within that area, they do have people like normal workers.
Yeah.
But there's a lot of military personnel.
But the reason they place them kibbutzes there is basically to kind of again observe Gaza as well.
I mean, yeah.
So there's kind of like this kind of weird, like evil reasoning for why it's there.
But yeah, that's the kibbutzes.
The kibbutz is used for like bombing and various other things, but at the same time, there's like military personnel there as well.
Yeah, a lot of military personnel.
And the same with uh Urim.
So again, they had military personnel there.
So that's the reason you target them.
And then there was obviously kibbutz kafar and various other kibbutzes.
There was another military base as well.
So they just basically were uh Nahal uh with the Nahal.
So they basically targeted them different locations, and as he said, yeah, they basically penetrated through about 25 different locations.
But the aim was to get to those specific areas because uh you know you had to take them out because they're right on your base.
If you didn't take them out, you would struggle.
So and funny enough, they it was um it was kibbutz ream, I think, where Hamas actually struggled to get in, like there was a lot of back and forth, a lot of fire back and forth.
Okay.
So they did like a decent job in what in in that kibbutz.
It was actually the military Nahal base that they just completely took over very easily.
Gotcha.
Yeah, and they did this very early in the morning, so people were asleep, or the the It's like 6 30 AM.
Yeah, and it was it was it was right around Yam Kippur, too, right?
Yeah, it was, yeah, yeah.
Which is like one of their big holidays.
Yeah, yeah.
So as quickly as possible, before the Israelis could respond.
So they split into small divisions and raced to their targets.
Speedboats raced across the ocean and onto the beaches of Sakim, while paragliders flew over the wall and landed in various areas.
Guys on beat-up motorcycles and pickup trucks used home-made anti-tank missiles to take out three million dollar Merkava tanks and 20 million dollar Apache helicopters.
They conquered Ra'im military base, an important communication.
That's the one just mentioned, right?
Yeah, that they took it over quickly.
Killing or capturing all the soldiers inside before destroying the server rooms.
According to Scott Ritter, Hamas struck the headquarters of the Gaza Division, the local intelligence hub, and other major command and control.
And this was the big reason why it took them so long to respond, and they were discombobulated.
You know, and I'm realizing this, right?
Well, modern warfare, um, you know, we went from the days of trench warfare shooting at each other, just trying to kill each other to okay, we have to go after communication infrastructure and technology first, then we can go ahead and actual combat.
Like this is what modern warfare has done, where it's like, you know, you can't prioritize taking people right away.
You have to destroy the communications of the technology.
This is what uh Israel did with Iran, made them effectively blind for several hours.
Infrastructure, infrastructure is the most important thing.
Like you take that out when you basically take out the technology, and then bam, now now they're operating blind.
Facilities with brutal precision, turning what should have been a five-minute response time into many hours, more than enough time for Hamas to carry out one of its primary objectives the taking of hostages to use as exchange for the near 5,000 mentioned.
And you have children rotting in these kibbutzes and in this military base, there was soldiers there.
Yeah.
So you have to like it's not like Hamas just went in and then nobody was there.
So they didn't have to fight with soldiers, they had to fight with military people.
And so, from the Israeli perspective, again, like I know it doesn't take long for a helicopter to get go from like Tel Aviv or from their different military bases to here, but at the same time, they already have those people stationed in.
And so that kind of explains why there was a bit of a time lag as well.
Yeah, okay.
In Israeli administrative detention centers returning to Gaza with more than 230 Israeli soldiers and civilians.
The result was a complete route of local Israeli military forces for hours.
The Israelis were completely in the dark, confused as to where the attack was even coming from.
Thousands of rockets were in the air, dozens of bases and military settlements, aka kibbutz were captured, and multiple helicopters and tanks were destroyed.
The attack came so hard and so fast that many IDF soldiers were still in their pajamas as the resistance fighters enter the barracks.
How could these half-starved and besieged fighters Have the gall to escape their prison and carry out an attack like this.
No one in Israel could have imagined it, let alone expect it.
Desperate to respond, the Israelis began to implement scorched earth tactics.
Their helicopters began firing hellfire missiles and machine gun rounds indiscriminately at vehicles and people running in the fields.
Tanks rolled to the kibbutz and main roads and shelled houses as ground troops exchanged fire.
This was confirmed militants.
This was confirmed in terms of the shelling by, like we mentioned, Israeli military.
Oh, they were using the animal directive on that day?
The fact that they were firing just...
Well, it was yeah, it was like the Hannibal director, but they were just because they were just going in with the tanks, they were just firing indiscriminately.
Yeah, they were.
If you remember, like she went completely like somehow, I don't know what happened to her, she disappeared.
Right?
But she basically said that when the host when the Hamas had her, they were protecting her.
And it was she was they're protecting her from Israeli shots.
Oh, remember that was the big scandal.
Yeah.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
I think after that, she went completely silent.
It's just really weird.
Yes, uh, P.O. That's it.
Yes, I do remember that.
That's it.
Yes, I remember this.
Yes, yes, yes.
Uh okay, I guess.
It's not like she's like loving Hamas, she still called him terrorists.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
She said that we'll go here, yeah.
So she goes here.
So we were about 12 hostages.
And 40 terrorists.
They were guarding us.
I'm keeping the story short.
In the the interviewer asked her, did they harm you?
She said, No, they didn't harm us.
They treat us very humanely.
He's trying to fall the wall.
Enoshite?
He says humanely.
Yes, what does that mean humanely?
And then she says they guarded us.
They gave us something to drink now and then.
When they saw we were anxious.
They calmed us down.
That was very frightening, but no one behaved uh toward us violently.
Luckily for Marie, nothing happened to me like what I've been hearing about in the media.
Now remind you, it is important for people to know.
When this interview came out, all the Hasbara with the mass grapes and the beheaded babies and the babies and ovens were coming out.
Yeah, yeah, that's what she said.
You know, so you know, this is why the interviewer guys is so um confused.
Like, what do you mean?
They they guarded you.
What are you talking about?
Like, I'm hearing all these reports of them pulling babies out of people's women's wombs and stuff like that.
So um, you know, this was really brave for her to say or tell the truth about what happened in her experience when she was dealing with uh these guys.
But after two and a half hours, I'm reading it because a lot of people listen to this thing versus watch.
Um, but in short, but at the beginning there was nobody like uh there was nobody with us.
From the security services.
We were the ones who called the police.
Together with the kidnappers.
The goal of the kidnappers was to abduct us to Gaza.
One of the terrorists wanted to surrender to the police.
This terrorist was the one I conversed with.
I was the one that I made.
During these two hours.
What kept us hostages?
He then started to use me as a human shield.
I found this out afterwards.
He called to me.
We started leaving the house under fire.
We shouted at that point to the special forces.
Who had gotten there to stop shooting.
And they heard me and they stopped.
And he go abesh.
And I saw on the grass of the kibbutz there.
Five or six hostages lying on the ground outside.
Five children who are hiding in the house are six on the outside.
From the mascara.
It's on a tevach mola yerish in the line of fire between our forces and the terrorists.
the terror shot at them?
Timir.
She says no.
They were wounded in the exchange of gunfire.
Six people killed by IDF right there.
Just from her.
Just from her witnesses.
There's 12 hostages, six killed.
Yeah.
Cause because the um when I look at the numbers, the Israelis try to their media, they try to say roughly 15 to 20 were killed.
But dude, that's bullshit.
Wait, 50 to 20, what?
Uh were killed with by friendly fire.
By the IDF.
She's mentioned.
Yeah, her yeah, herself, she's already.
This is and this, and just and just to understand, like when I was giving you those figures, when I said out like 200 from the Apache helicopter, like maybe like we've got like 70, 18 kibbutz berry.
I'm not even talking about kibbutzkafar and all the rest of them.
She's literally saying that where she was, and I can't remember where she was now, which kibbutz she was in, but the kibbutz she was in, there's 12 hostages.
Half of them were killed, and all of them were killed by Israel.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I try to explain this to people that like um it makes no sense for them to break in there just to kill people.
Like they're there with a purpose, right?
They're there to get as many hosts as they can because that's really the only leverage they have.
And uh well, they don't even want to get many hostages.
Remember, the aim was only to get like a hundred hostages.
That was the aim?
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um because what happened was the Nova Festival never should have been there, right?
Uh because what the Nova festival was never meant to be there, got extended for like two to three days.
You want to explain that to them too?
So there was basically a Nova festival.
This is enough here, right?
I mean, you guys heard enough from this.
But here you guys hear you uh a kibbutz survivor telling you guys that they were basically getting shot out by the Israelis, you know what I mean?
And and the reason why we know this is authentic is because this is days after the attack before the Israelis can really get a grasp on the media and everything like that.
Now, if you l watch some uh inter people being interviewed, yeah, we haven't seen her, and then we got like people, you know, making bullshit stories up.
But this is before all the Hasbar started getting spread.
Uh, but go ahead, sorry.
Yeah, uh so the Nova Festival was the actual festival where a lot of people were.
Now, I don't I'm gonna sound mean, but like I kind of don't really care.
First of all, like what's the ethics in holding a Nova festival right outside a concentration camp?
Right?
It's bang out of order.
That is a little weird.
It's just not right, right?
It's like literally m, you know, having a prison and then having people like take them make out those people in person, starving people in there.
Yeah, it's b it's not acceptable.
And the second thing is like they claim that these people that they were like, you know, they didn't have much clothes on.
But I don't want to sound mean, but like how do people dress during these festivals?
Well, yeah, they don't wear clothes.
Exactly.
So like people who are dressed like that, then they're like, oh, these people who have in their underwear, yeah.
They're in their underwear, because that's how they were dressing.
Yeah, ridiculous.
If you've ever been to uh uh EDM festival or whatever, you already know that women dress like 304s.
So that's what they do.
Yeah.
And so But they try to use that as evidence to say, oh, look, they got grape.
Yeah, I see what you mean.
Yeah.
Which is ridiculous.
We're not allowed to say it because we have to be like, oh, you know, if you say it, you're gonna get cancelled.
Yeah.
Um, and then the no so the Nova festival happens.
It's meant to be one day.
They and they apply for an extension, which is something Hamas didn't know about.
And the extension was for 24 to 48 hours.
And there's documents to prove that this extension occurred.
Okay.
And so when Hamas come in, they're shocked.
For the music festival.
Yeah.
So when Hamas come in, they're shocked that there's a festival.
They're even like, oh, what are these people doing here?
And so because there's so many people, they end up taking so many people back as hostages when the plan was not to do so.
Because it's very difficult to manage so many hostages.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
No, that makes sense.
And I mean, uh, you know, from a military standpoint of, you know, if you want to attack an area, you know, is it a smart to attack when there's a music festival going on?
Probably not.
No.
So they so that makes sense.
But just from yeah, exactly.
I think you hit the nail on the head from a military strategy strategy perspective.
If you're trying to go in and get out quickly, why the fuck would you do it in the middle of a music festival?
Exactly.
Because think about it logically, you can't control the area, right?
You've got a large expansive area, people displa uh disp like uh throughout, scattered.
When you go after them, they're gonna run, which is what happened.
And then you're gonna have to chase them.
You're gonna not be able to contain the area, which is really important.
If you see in the kibbutz and the military places where they went, they were easily able to um um you know control the area, You know, make sure there's no exit points, no entry points.
Make sure that they've got their place contained.
They're only able to do so when it's an open expansive area.
So logically speaking, if they were aware that not the Nova Festival is there, they would never win.
Yeah.
Shit.
So here, let me, you know, let me read some of these chats real quick, and then we're gonna go into some more of the stuff we're discussing.
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Jerome says, Hey Mario, when you start the stream and we are in the debrief loading uh screen of silence, can you play night training get hype while we wait?
WSS.
Um I mean, that's why I play music for you guys as I'm getting closer.
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R1 uh Myron, uh Debbie Martin, your legend bro, OSS World where I took over, you know it.
Uh yeah, Sully listening to you on X. It's nice.
Cover zone.
Hey Martin, uh just listening today is my birthday.
Can I get a shout out?
Happy birthday to you, uh, comfort zone.
Uh Kane says, WG Sully, okay.
Um Bro, I'm not a G. Why are you attacking?
Yeah, he said, uh put his mic closer.
Uh I'll turn his volume up right now.
Um, let's see here.
Uh the goats of the goats.
Uh I can't wait to hear hear uh the sauce y'all about to fire off wish.
So he was on yesterday to conquer that tortoise yesterday, gonna be a fire show of both y'all.
Uh King Clark says this is the first time uh ranting.
I've been watching since 2020.
Your work ethic is incredible.
Uh enough glaze, I'm a welder in California.
Shout out to you, bro.
Uh asked Sullivan if he's seen any rubber dinghy rapids or RS3s since being in the US.
So he's like that that's like um there's like a I don't know if you know this, but it's like uh it's a classic movie from the UK.
There's guys from like Yorkshire, like Sheffield, which is not too far from where I'm now.
And you know how Asian accents are.
So he's like rubber rubber rubber dingy rapids, bro.
So like it's a classic, it's a funny movie.
It's about like these four Muslim guys who take a look at the colour.
It's an insider joke from Yeah, from UK, four Muslim guys are trying to take out a terrorist attack, but it's like a funny movie.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Chess says, Sullivan, I've been trying to get a hold of you.
X suspended me on September 14th, they gave me no reason.
I've appealed multiple times with no response.
Day before being suspended, I I had to approve I was human and I've seen real ID verified since it came out.
Massad got me, WMR and W. Sullivan.
Oh, sorry, yeah.
Yeah, X sucks, bro.
Yeah.
Uh Ang says, Happy to see you visiting State Siliman.
Welcome.
Yeah, I'm so happy to be here.
I was uh I was concerned I might not be laying, so it's great.
Yeah.
Um Just the Black guy says, is this the same guy who was in X chat with a uh about a week ago talking about 9-11 ties?
Sounds like him.
I don't know where you're talking about.
Yeah, I mean, we did talk about the 9-11, yeah.
Okay, possibly.
Um, Knox, epic uh track debut today.
I need to go donate to Lucas.
Okay.
Bluffkin, I think Ian Carroll said he was in Miami in a recent podcast.
Uh I didn't, I didn't know.
He didn't hit me up.
Um, the Democrats won in Norway, and in the last two months, we have had a social worker brutally murdered, two grandkids incidents in Oslo.
God damn.
All right, social says, uh can't wait to see the Nick steal Ryan's talking points again.
Love you, San Niggas.
I'm confused.
Can't wait to see Nick steal Ryan's talking points again.
What do you mean by that?
Oh, slash graper, uh W Silman.
All right, cool.
Uh Thunder says, Hey Martin, thought about nursing as a profession, want to move from Norway to the US.
I'm wondering if nursing is something that is pay well.
Yeah, you can make six figures here doing it.
Go JQ W Silyman.
I remember bringing being up 48 hours straight in the X bases during the boom boom televives days.
Yep.
Yeah, good times.
Uh Desert Joe, and there's gonna be they're definitely gonna fight again.
Yeah, um, update from the sh uh on the ship podcast.
The stable now recovering suspect has also been apprehended.
What?
What are you talking about, bro?
I'll look into that.
Okay.
Honest uh diecast says, big shout out to Sleeve for having the X space out there.
Best runs uh and best info space facts.
Cool.
Appreciate it.
Why try?
Uh says two things.
Firstly, I just realized Drake is a J, and that explains everything.
Yeah.
And the second is I came across a video on X where an Israeli soldier testified and says October 7 they were told to stand out from 5 a.m. to 9 a.m.
Uh, yeah, I think we discussed that a little bit.
I mean I post it as well today.
So I think um yeah, let's see here.
Uh Robin Kobe, uh Martin, after years of interviewing thousands of three or fours, is it is it worth it to keep torturing yourself on after hours?
I don't know, bro.
Do you what do you like it?
Uh I mean, they're just women are dumb.
Like a lot of the girls that come on the show are just dumb.
It is.
Never like do you still enjoy it?
Like uh sometimes I want to like a bit.
From time to time, you know what I mean?
Uh it's it but also it's because like it's the last show of the day that I do too, so I'm like fed up with these bitches by the time I talk to them.
So um to get the brunt of it.
Yeah, because I'm like, you know, uh towards the end, I'm like, oh my god.
Uh Diachel Silman, I I like you, but please don't downplay the lack of integration from Muslims in Europe.
No, but like real question.
Like this is uh I talked about this in Elijah's uh show, right?
Like what what is it you mean by integration?
Like what is it the integration you uh that you what is it you want?
So my grandparents, right, came to the UK in the 60s, and I explained this.
And when they came in the 60s, they saw themselves as visitors, right?
So they saw themselves as foreigners.
And they thought we're gonna be here, we're gonna help rebuild the country, we're gonna make some money, and we're gonna go back.
And so whenever people would be like, Oh, you dumb packy or break their windows or whatever, they just be like, look, we're just gonna deal with it, we'll fix our windows up and wherever maybe so they didn't really integrate.
They saw themselves as foreigners.
But what's happened is when you get to second generation, third generation, now they've integrated, now they've become part of society.
They see themselves as the same as uh a white British person.
And so part of integration is that they feel like they're the same.
So therefore, when that happens now, they'll respond in the same manner.
So that is integration.
So I like my question to you is like, and genuinely, I'm not trying to like debate.
I um uh if you have something like this here, I've just never heard anyone give some strong enough point.
Like, what is it the integration you seek?
So if you mean in terms of values, then again, when my grandfather came, he had conservative values.
He came to a Christian country, he said, Oh, guess what?
We both believe in family values, we both believe in defined gender roles, we both disagree with LGBTQ.
Like these values are very similar to our Muslim values, but now obviously the UK has become a left-wing LGBTQ country.
So if you mean that they don't integrate in that way, then yeah, that's true.
Because when they came to the UK and the dream of the UK, and they had children there and their children had children, which is myself and my I had children, it was the idea that it was a conservative country.
So if you mean integration to liberal leftist ideologies, then you're right.
But then I don't think Christianity integrates into that, and that's why it's died in the UK.
So like I genuinely want to know what you mean.
Now, if you mean there's certain religious people, like Dawah guys who are like a bit out there and a bit more extreme in certain positions, then okay, that's a worth conversation worth having.
Um but even if you look at them, they just act very British.
So when they're like, Yeah, yeah, bruv, we're gonna take over, that's how Brits act.
So it's just uh like genuine question.
What do you mean?
Um I got here, James says, uh, I'm not out of shape, but I just started hitting the gym.
Again, I'm uh 63, 170 pounds who started taking creatine to increase gains, and sometimes when I'm short, uh, you just gotta get calories in, bro.
One 170 pounds of six three is uh you're a skinny cut, man.
Uh Alboys, what's Silly's sake on the future Iranian war and what to expect?
So we'll cover that.
Um I got a future soldier of my hands, played early life for my three-year-old son, he started dancing.
Okay.
Uh Silly Man, I like uh okay, we got that one ready.
And then also, um, yeah, guys, you guys, as you guys know, the Shift Podcast who shows uh a lot of support and love.
Um, he was out doing some debates, man.
He got stabbed in the back by some crazy bastard, man.
So prayers go out to him and his uh family.
He you get is you get for those of you that are watching on Rumble, he gives a lot of you broke his subs.
So you guys should uh, you know, obviously, number one, thank him.
And then two, uh, pray that he ends up okay.
Um, because you know, he was out, I guess, doing debates or whatever, and someone stabbed him in the back several times.
So um, you know, obviously I wish him a speedy recovery.
So see, it seems here that he lost a lot of blood, but he's gonna be okay.
Um, so um, so that's really good news.
Um, so you know, condolences and prayers go out to him and his family, and I hope he has a speedy recovery.
But I'm glad that he's all right and he will be um, he'll be okay.
Um, uh we were talking about the um kibbutzes and uh okay, so yeah, so they came in and they attacked the radio towers, got rid of them there.
Okay.
Um we talked about one of the main reasons why they came and was to get the hostages.
That was the main reason that was their main objective.
They wanted to take 100.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know what their preconceived, you know, amount of people they want to take.
So they end up taking up what 250 almost, right?
Yeah, which you think about it logically, they just don't have the capability to take those people and to look after them and to keep them as hostage.
It's a large number of people, 250.
It is.
It was unexpected.
The Nova festival really did throw a wrench in the situation.
Okay.
So um, what other reasons uh do you think happen uh, you know, cause October 7th?
I mean, I'd say those two of the main.
Obviously, in terms of like from a personal perspective hostages and the occupation.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, and I mean, from a personal perspective, like you think about it from a psychology of somebody who's uh in Palestine.
Uh, we explained earlier in the space, uh sorry, early early in the show, the uh idea that um first of all, how they intentionally kept them in a ghetto, how they never wanted to give them citizenship, both within Israel as a separate and as a separate nation, these people were terrorized, they were kept in a in a concentration camp, they were put on a calorie diet, which means that like whatever the number of calories is, uh you you were given, like for an adult is what, one thousand you're the expert on this.
What is it?
Um 1,500.
That's what, yeah, I mean, yeah, they gave him a diet, is what they call it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, they gave him like a diet.
Yes.
Which is crazy because like, you know, people say that they're not occupied, but it's like, bro, they literally control the food and water going in.
Exactly.
And they control the land, sea and air.
And so just think that we're everything.
Yeah.
And so, and then they'd regularly bomb, they'd regularly destroy like the El Shafar Hospital.
Uh, if you Dr. Mads Gilbert, he if there's this like he was in there in twenty 2015 and they basically bombed it, and he thought they're all gonna die.
Um and he's from Norway.
So the point being, like the regular bombing of hospitals, regular bombing of people, kept as hostages.
And so the idea is that look, like, this is an opportunity to break out.
When you break out against your capital, you are gonna act aggressive.
Actually, when I look at the actions of October the 7th, and I look at the psychology of a person, just think about a if you someone like yourself, right?
If you're put in that situation, and then you're to face your captor, how would you act?
Yeah, this is your chance to accept you're gonna go crazy, yeah.
Yeah, you're gonna go crazy.
Like you, some people are knock him out, some people will kill him, yeah, some people are wanting mutilate him.
Like, you'd be like, you abuse me for this long.
You murdered my brother.
Yeah, yeah.
You murdered my sister, yeah.
You just you know, you you basically have kept my father in 20 years as hostage and raped him in Israel in Israeli princes.
Now you're in front of me, like I would say they've acted very calmly on October 7th when you take all of that into context.
Yeah, except for the bigger.
I think um that's something that yeah, that people aren't aware of, is like, you know, because you know, Zionists always like to start the you know the argument on October 7th, but they never talk about what led to October 7th, right?
The occupation, the you know, eat any these these Hamas fighters, they were kids at one point, right?
What ended up happening?
A lot of times they get radicalized because a family member was killed, or somebody was put, you know, taken and put in prison without charge, or someone in their family, like any of these guys, I guarantee you, if you ask them why did you join up in the resistance, they'll tell you, oh yeah, because this happened to my family member, this person happened here.
And it's just a very sucky situation because um because the Israelis don't want to give them any type of sovereignty or um you know self-determination, this is what ends up happening, and then they expect them to sit there and just be occupied in their open-air prison and just take it.
And then they've seen in the West Bank, right, where there isn't any resistance, they're losing all the West Bank, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're losing all their homes and it's just happening in a slightly slower process.
Yeah, well, actually, yeah, compared to Gaza.
It's nuts that like some some dude from Brooklyn, yeah, right, Harvey from fucking Brooklyn, can go to the West Bank.
Harvestine Weinstein.
You know, can literally go to the West Bank and take land and take a home there from someone that was born in you know from the land.
Isn't that nuts?
Yeah, it's mental.
And someone who's um Palestinian who's born there, who could show their heritage for the la the last like two, three, four generations is not allowed back in the country.
Yeah, that's you know, and then that's what's going on, chat.
Like, I don't think people understand like the ridiculous amount of um oppression that these people are dealing with.
Like, it's not like this hey, just came out of nowhere and there's this like vacuum.
Now, obviously it sucks because obviously there's this it leads to inevitable violence, but I always find it interesting how the pro-Zionists always start the conflict on October 7th.
They never started with you know what led to that, what you know, they never talk about what you know, they they never talk about the Abraham Accords, they never talk about the Al-Aqsa Mosque.
That's another thing.
No one talks about the theological side as well, which with uh I mean the operations called the Alexa Flood, yeah, but it never gets talked about in Western media.
Yeah, you know, what is funny?
Denish D'Souza was talking about this on a couple because what happened was I was uh Denish Jesus, uh like obviously I do prep for like certain shows, right?
Uh, as I did for this one.
And like Denish D'Souza um was doing a couple of interviews, you know, promoting his October 7th uh book thing.
Obviously, when he When does it come out?
It's out now, it's out now, yeah.
Okay, um What's the name of it?
It's called Dragon something.
Oh, yes, I saw a promo for it, yeah.
And um what it what it is, obviously he didn't make these points on Elijah's show because Elijah was a bit aggressive towards him and was like kind of debating him where he didn't have that in previous ones.
Uh-huh.
But like one of the arguments he made was this.
He said, and I think it's interesting to debunk it because he's the same argument he keeps making.
Because his aim of this movie is this.
He wants to bring Christians back into this like Christian Jew uh Christian Judaism or Judeo Christianity, yeah.
Yes, yeah.
And so he's like, Look, Um what you find in the story is or what you find in the story is a very Christianitic uh Christianity uh ideology.
And what I mean by this is this he gives this example.
He says in the past, you had the in the Bible you have the Philistines, and right now you have the Palestine Palestinians, and the names are very similar.
And the Philistines fought the Israeli is Israelites.
Oh, in Arabic it's called Philistini.
That's what you call them in Arabic.
Yeah, yeah.
And so in the Bible, the Philistines fought the Israelites, and they tried to ridicule them and they tried to ridicule Samson and they made him dance around as when they took him as a hostage.
And the Philistines did that, and the Palestinians did that.
And you can see what's the similarity?
The similarities in the name.
That's his argument.
And so he's like, you're seeing this biblical story being reincarnated again right now.
Yeah.
Where the Palestinians are the bad guys.
But what's interesting is actually the same story works against him.
Because who were the Philistines?
They were Europeans.
Okay.
And so what he's saying is in that movie, he's saying the Philistines were our enemies, the Europeans.
Okay.
And they'll always be our enemies.
I didn't see the movie, so but you watched that, I'm guessing?
No, no, I just watched his interview.
Okay, okay.
They interview about us.
Okay.
And so he says the Philistines are um Europeans, and they say the Philistines are gonna be our enemies forever.
Which is basically say the Europeans are gonna be our enemy.
So if somebody actually understands it, he's literally saying, like, what that story tells you is the Europeans are gonna be our enemies forever, which is whites or Christians.
And the second part of the story is the guy who is being ridiculed is Samson.
Okay.
What's the Samson option?
Well, yeah, destroying everything.
But actually, more specifically destroying European countries.
Yeah, destroying America and European countries is destroying their allies.
Because they say the allies didn't work hard enough to save them, and therefore we're gonna bomb London, we're gonna bomb Paris, we're gonna bomb borrow uh Brussels, we're gonna bottom New York, we're gonna bomb LA.
And so it links to this whole Philistine thing, which actually is his hatreds of whites and Christians.
Interesting, even though he's trying to use that story to bring them on here.
Yeah, I'm not too familiar with that, with that stuff.
Um, just because you brought the theology up south.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I know, of course, of course.
I was I was gonna say the um the other thing too, also is uh with the red cows.
Yeah, the heifers as well, with them, you know, trying to and they they uh they killed one of the cows July 1st.
What's that guy?
What's the what's this um Adam King?
Adam King.
He went on Timcast, yeah, and he said, Yeah, I was in Israel and we we uh we sacrificed the cow, like as a go ruh, as a as a as like a test run.
I was like, what the fuck?
No, and he brought the ashes to the studio.
No, wasn't he claiming that they lied to everybody and said it was a test run, but it was the real legitimate thing.
Oh, I don't know.
I just know that he brought ashes of a cow to the studio.
Yeah, because of the fucking words.
Yeah, some yeah, some shit like that.
Yeah, so um, yeah, so I think their claim is that they've sacrificed the red heifer.
Okay, so you think they killed one of the red ones?
Because they have like five.
No, no, that's their opinion, yeah.
Like, I don't believe in their Jewish uh no, I think no, no, no, no, no, no.
I mean, of course, I don't know you don't believe in it, but I'm saying, but I'll say like you uh I mean as in you think that they actually kill one of the red cows, the red heifer.
I think that's what he was claiming, yeah.
Okay, okay.
Because he he tried to make it like they didn't kill one of the red cows, they killed like another one.
But who knows, they could be lying about that.
But yeah, they definitely did a test run in July, and then you know, you got these people in the government like um Ben Gavir who goes up to the temple mount all the time.
Well, he goes up to the Alaska Mask all the time to try to provoke because Jews are not supposed to go there, but what he'll do is he'll take his security, he'll go up there, you know, and obviously agitate the Muslim community there.
He does it all the time.
And it's just in Judaism, right?
Because according to their religion, they're not meant to rebuild the third temple.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
According to their religion, what's meant to happen is the messiahs meant to come back, and then the third temple is meant to be rebuilt.
And their belief is that if they do attempt to rebuild the third temple and accelerate it, it'll destroy it'll get destroyed and they'll they'll be destroyed for like a thousand years.
So they won't get their eschatological coming uh uh uh uh sorry, third temple if they do it themselves.
Yeah, so they're actually going against their own belief system by doing it.
Well, yeah, this isn't this why like the very um religious ascetic, I don't know if it's a city or yeah, the ascetic ones are like you know, they're more they're like pro-Palestine.
They're like, hey, this is where you know you're you're uh you're accelerating the problem, and this is not how we're supposed to build the temple.
They believe that if these guys rebuild the third temple, these guys will remain without a land for a thousand years.
Okay, so that the the the so okay, so the Orthodox guys believe if these um Zionists keep doing this, that they're gonna be without a land for another thousand years.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, because there's guys, there's like uh they're like from Brooklyn, right?
A lot of them from like some of them are from Brooklyn.
Yeah, yeah.
You have a lot of them in Israel, and in Israel they're oppressed.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah.
They're in Israel too.
Yeah.
I wouldn't think they'd be there because doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of them being there?
Yeah, I think it's just because they're in the land, but they don't believe there should be a state.
So they should be desolute in the land, but they shouldn't be an Israeli state.
Gotcha.
That's what you mean.
And so in Israel, there's a large proportion of them.
Some say like 10, 15, 20 percent.
Uh to the all to the ones I speak to, they say it's the numbers larger, but they don't show it because the Israelis try and basically harm them.
Yeah, Israelis basically trying to sterilize them.
Israelis take the water supply off them.
So because they get oppressed and abused by the Zionists, what they do is don't tell their real number.
But these guys have a lot of children.
They have like 810 children each other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
These are the ones that are actually like breeding like crazy, right?
Yeah.
So um, yeah, because for those of you that are wondering, like when you're walking around in Brooklyn and stuff, and the guys have like the curls and they're super, they're wearing the all the black and stuff like that, these very devout ones.
These uh a lot of these guys don't believe in um Israel for you know religious purposes or whatever.
Although here you have a mix, right?
Because here you have the ones who dress up like that.
We do.
And they are Zionists.
I went to in in New York, I went to uh We have a lot of secular ones here too.
Yeah, yeah.
I went to New York.
Oh, so you're talking about Miami in New York.
Oh no, I was talking about Miami because you said you mean you mean you mean New York.
Go ahead, keep going.
In New York, we went uh I when I went to New York, I went with some of my friends to the tunnels.
Oh, you know what?
Yeah.
They let people go in those tunnels?
Yeah, and not in, like we watched what we went to see them from an outside.
Gotcha, I got you.
Yeah, yeah.
It was like it was still open, though.
There were still lights on there.
So they try and make it look like they shut down.
But they had they had all that like they shut it down.
Nah, nah, they never shut it down.
They made us think like it's a shutter down, but they're still doing it.
But there was all these people dressed like that.
And guess what?
It's New York.
They had their own police.
They had their old.
They do have their own security force, yeah.
They had their own fire brigade, they had their own security service, and then they had the normal police.
And this was when there was no threats whatsoever.
So this is the level of spending that goes on towards uh the Jewish community compared to anyone else.
And then they have their own kind of police force, they have their own legal systems.
So they always complain about these things about Muslims, but in reality, these guys are doing it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, they have their own, like completely own communities.
You know, no one uh live else lives there.
Um completely isolated.
Um, okay.
So we went over uh the reasons.
Basically, all right, Frank, go to your bed.
Bed.
Um, so we had um Frank, bed, bed, go.
Sorry, guys.
He's uh Frank is uh wants to get involved.
Go.
Um what else was I saying?
Um okay, so we went over the the the re Frank bed, bed, go.
Sorry, chat.
Um whenever I have a guest, he's like, he gets excited.
Um yeah, he's very friendly.
See, look, see there he is right again.
Hey, bed, bed, go to your bed.
All right.
I need a haram police.
I did haram police to protect me.
Yeah, man.
Um what else was I gonna say?
Uh we covered the the what and the whys.
Yeah.
Um anything else you wanted to say, I guess, as far as oh, we can start debunking the whys now.
Yeah.
Because we we went over so basically October 7th happens.
They go in, the goal is to get hostages.
Um obviously fight back against the occupation.
They want to get 100, they ended up getting like double that.
Yeah.
Um, obviously, is Israel's responding.
They're in shooting indiscriminately into the kibbutzes with tanks, Apache helicopters, they just see thermal vision, they're seeing things, you know, with the green thermal vision.
They're shooting at everybody.
You know, we do know now that you have gulan did admit that the animal director was activated on that day.
Um actually, as a matter of fact, he says it in an interview, even uh here he says it um that in some place it wasn't activated, and that was a problem.
I'll show you guys real fast here.
They ask him straight up, was the order to use a handable direct was the order given to use a handful director?
I think tactically in some places it was in other places it was not, and that is a problem.
So even there you go.
This this is it was the defense minister at the time.
Yeah, this guy's the equivalent to like RP Hexeth chat, right?
He was the guy that ran the military on October 7th.
So um the order came down.
Hey, shoot at everybody, don't let anybody get back into Gaza, because they knew what was gonna happen.
And they knew that, you know, whenever they have hostages, it puts them in a very bad spot.
Speaking of hostages, because um, I was debating this one idiot in front of uh the club the other day, and he mentioned the Bebas family.
Can you talk about the Beavis family?
I know you did a deep dive into that.
And for the people that don't know the Bebus, um, here, I'll pull them up while uh Suly talks about this.
Yeah, the Babis family is Israel killed them, right?
So what happened was that's a controversial take.
Well, according to what they say.
Okay.
Um, but yeah, the Bibis family, um, they were and they're notable because the red hair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And uh just because the image, because they had the video of them.
Um, but they were basically taken to Israel.
If you remember, the father basically comes out on a video many times and says, Look, you keep bombing us, and we like almost died so many times.
And then what happens is Israel actually bombs and kills the baby's family.
And what Israel did was they lied initially and they said, Oh, Hamas has killed the baby's family, I believe on October the 7th.
I can't remember what the lie was now, but they're like, We were saying when the father told said Israel, you guys are bombing, like he did uh like he made a video with Hamas while under captivity.
Yeah, yeah.
And he told them this?
Okay, okay.
Now, what what's your response to people that might say, Oh, well, Hamas told him to say that as propaganda or under arrest.
This is possible, logically, right?
Of course, yeah.
It's possible.
Uh, but just just think about it from a rational perspective.
So, like, we're being quite rational, but saying it's possible, like hostages can be forced to say something.
At the same time, Israel were bombing indiscriminately.
They were how do they know that there's an Israeli hostage there or not?
They clearly do not.
And so the idea that it happened is quite high.
Furthermore, um the other hostage, what's the name again?
Not me Hashem who got raped by the um with the by the Zionists, but the um what's the other one?
The other one anyway, the one who's they put a near Nima near Nima something.
Anyway, she literally said, she said, Oh, I got hit.
And they were like, Oh my god, she got hit by by Hamas, you know, when she came back.
And she said, No, no, no, I got hit by the uh by the uh by the Israelis in terms of what they bombed, the collateral of the building would hit me.
Oh.
And so then they basically shut that down.
Yeah.
But uh, so that's confirmed, like hostages were were basically hit and attacked by Israel when they were bombing because they did it in discriminately.
So logically it makes sense that it was happening, and they probably thought, let's take an opportunity, let's get him on the on video to say, and then he said it.
And then what happens is Israel then kills him.
And so then Hamas releases and look, you've killed him.
And actually the father comes out and says, You kill my children.
Because I if I remember right now, uh, the father comes out and literally says, You've killed my children in this bombing.
Yeah, and I mean, uh, you know, whenever I uh debate the Zionists on this, I I tell them, like, what is their incentive to kill hostages?
That's it's absolutely stupid for them to kill.
There's no sense.
Like that's the only leverage they have is to keep them alive, and because obviously they're gonna be worth more alive, right?
So if you want to go ahead and say these guys are the most evil people ever find, no problem.
But let's be pragmatic here.
Why would they relinquish the only leverage they have?
True.
You know, and kill the hostages.
Makes no sense.
Um, so I think if anything, um, a lot of these hostages that were killed were killed by either being starved or bombed by Israel since Israel was literally a blockade on the in the area and bombing the hell out of the area as well.
Where um, you know, because they pre- I'm assuming they have to move these these hosts around a lot.
They were moving them around, right?
So one day they might be in a building and above ground where they're susceptible, another day they might be in the tunnels, another day they might be in another building.
So, you know, they don't know as much as Israel says, Oh, yeah, we notify everybody with the leaflets or whatever, and they're gonna get bombed uh when they're gonna get bombed.
They still don't know when a lot of these attacks are gonna come.
Well, they don't, and and and the thing is when a lot of the attacks occur, as you know, remember when I did your show, I think it was one of the first few times.
Yeah, they'd basically oh no, it was when I was debating destiny um on your show.
And um what happened was um they told people to go to Rafah, if you remember.
Yeah, and then they bombed that specific area in Rafah.
Yeah.
So they were just telling people to go to certain areas and then bombing them.
And then bombing them anywhere.
Yeah, you want to talk about because this is another thing I get a lot with the leaflets and you know, people being notified and all this other bullshit, they get messages.
You want to touch on that a little bit with the leaflets and the text messages and all this other stuff that then Yahoo always says he goes on interview and says, Oh, we send out millions of text messages, we pass out thousands of leaflets, we drop we airdrop it, we're drop food.
Do you want to kind of give the real deal?
Yeah, yeah, cost.
So, first of all, it's ridiculous, because I've just given the example of where they tell people to Go to certain areas and then they bomb them.
Now, in terms of when they send leaflets, right?
A lot of times people can't trust those leaflets because what'll happen is their concern is that, for example, if they were to go to a specific location, that location will be targeted.
So because what's Israel's done is created a psychological operation where they'll bomb certain areas where they tell people to go, at the same time, they'll bomb their specific building.
And so they're left in a quandary, and in reality, it's not really a warning.
So for example, if I said to Myron, look, Myron, uh, every any time you go to the green room, you're gonna be safe, right?
You're gonna think like, no problem, I'm gonna go to the green room.
Yeah, but if you're like Myron, every time you go to the green room, you're gonna be safe and then I bomb the green room.
And you're like, damn, he's gonna bomb the green room.
But then you you're in the red room and then you bomb the red room.
Now you're like, flip, we just can't trust anything.
Because they could bomb the red room, they could bomb the green room.
It's like not being given a warning anywhere.
So that's the reality of what happens.
Like they they can't trust the warnings because the warning could be like misinformation in terms of bombing them, which which is actually what happens.
That's that's a good point.
So so um okay, that makes sense because they get the leaflets that says go here, but in the past when they've gone to those with those places, they've been bombed.
So like they might say, Do I even need to move?
Do I want to move?
Like, they're gonna they might attack us.
So it's like all the things.
If anything becomes a psychological, it's actually worse than being warned because it becomes a psychological operation in addition to actually being killed.
Yeah, that's a good point that you mentioned.
That they'll tell you to go somewhere and that there's been times where they bombed this.
So that puts you in a weird spot because you're like, Am I gonna go take the chance to go there and get blow blown up?
Or am I gonna stay here because now that they've notified everyone, they might not blow up here.
So um, okay, let's talk about the uh the food, right?
Um, you know, they've they they've they've talked about the um you know Hamas stealing all the food and all this other stuff.
Well, what what's your thoughts on that?
Yeah, that's just completely fake.
Because um, first of all, um because he's been doing around trigonometry.
He said this.
I think he said this against uh the noteboys, he said this to Tatum that you know Hamas steals 90% of the food.
Yeah, this is fake because if you look at the people who are part of the GHF, like uh Anthony Aguilar, like I obviously I disagree with him in some points, but he literally says that look, Hamas, we don't even see them, they don't have access to the food.
Um, and so this whole idea that Hamas is stealing the food is just completely fake.
In reality, the Israelis are just not allowing the food in.
So when they show them videos of them trucks, that's how it's outside the border.
That makes it worse.
There's actually food ready to go in.
Yeah, but they're not allowing the food in.
Spoiling now, in Palestine itself or in Gaza itself, there is certain situations where obviously you know how it is, survival of the fittest.
Yeah, the stronger people are getting the food before like the weaker people.
And it's also important to know that there's another militia group in the area that doesn't like Hamas that's actually these these gangs with the guns.
Yeah, Al-Shabaab, yeah.
Are they called Al-Shabaab?
There's another there's another group of guys in Palestine that they fight with Hamas in in Gaza.
There are another militia group.
It's the Israeli funded group, right?
Yes, precisely, yes, yeah.
So here's something else, guys.
There's there's a group of militia fighters similar to Hamas that are backed by the Israelis that are actually stealing a lot of the food.
And people think it's Hamas, but it's really not.
I forget what their name is.
Yeah, I thought it was al-Shabaab, but maybe uh gonna remember that.
That's the uh that those are Ethiopian guys, I think, or the Somalian guys.
Okay, maybe that's the terrorist group out of but they're basically funded by Israel and they basically they do actually steal the food.
Yes, that's the irony of it.
They're armed gangs, basically.
And um now there are certain people who, if you're stronger, you're gonna get the food before the weaker people as well.
If it's like it's just the way it is in a smile of the fit situation.
Yeah, of course, of course.
And yeah, and again, don't think like we're denying that like people are fighting over food and stuff like that.
It's absolutely happening.
But I think it's important to understand that this is being manufactured by the scarcity, and who controls the scarcity?
They do.
Yeah, like you know, if if this was true that these guys were stealing the food and jacking it up and selling it at a high price, then put more food in.
Then they wouldn't be able to do this.
Well, let's be clear on this.
If Hamas was stealing the food, the people were turning them.
Yeah.
Because then what benefit is Hamas?
If Hamas is like fighting the resistance, and they have they'd get killed immediately.
Exactly.
But yeah, but just think about logically as well.
Hamas is fighting Israel, people are dying in Gaza.
There will be some people, because this is the tactic that Israel's used, right?
Which is this tactic of killing civilians significantly and then hoping that that causes the civilians to turn on the government.
Yes, yeah.
And so from the people in Gaza's perspective when civilians are being killed they would some of them would be thinking like okay things might be better without Hamas right yeah for sure uh even though more likely to cooperate with the Israeli government and stuff and so there would be this kind of incentive to turn on on Hamas and yet they haven't done that right so this claim that they don't then they don't support Hamas kinda as weak because they would have turned on Hamas already.
But if Hamas was stealing the food as well then they would definitely turn on Hamas.
Yeah.
So it makes no sense whatsoever that Hamas would be stealing the open them up them them up to like a lot of susceptibility like like them getting killed and attacked and everything else like that.
They're hiding a lot of these guys in in the tunnels so it's like you know what you're gonna go above ground and just steal a whole bunch of food like I don't know.
It just it it doesn't um it just doesn't make sense you know but again Netanyahu's got to sell a certain story right um you know he only does his lie during his interviews at this point um but a lot of the people that he interviews like they're not gonna really say hey well is that really true because you know a bunch of the human rights organizations too have come out and said you know that's that's false that they're stealing all this food that they claim like 90% of the food yeah nearly every unbiased person even when they when they've been in Gaza outside have literally said the same thing.
Yeah.
Um and and we know that they're just a blockade in general they're not letting the food in.
I mean it's funny because like they brought in all these American influencers yeah right from like Prager U and stuff and they're here saying like look at all this food that's here and it's like yeah that's the fucking point dude like it's not in Gaza.
It's it's it's outside retard like exactly you know just given it to Hadby and a few others were saying that it's ridiculous.
It's and the other point which is important to debunk is this claim that Hamas are operating in tunnels underneath hospitals and schools.
Oh yeah you want to talk about that real quick yeah yeah right because they've been using that to justify what is every hospital destroyed except for one now yeah only one hospital's left in Gaza it's crazy.
But go ahead and Assar hospital.
Now okay um like some of my friends went there and then they've just come back and they're just like shook they're like oh yeah doctors right they went there volunteers doctors doctors yeah and they were like basically it's shocking like the amount of like pain and suffering there is is unbelievable like the things we've seen we can never recover from it.
Many of them are PT PTSD that one of them just cries because like they were just assassinating kids like literally just getting a gun and just like you can just see like a bullet to the head isn't gonna be anything else except an assassination.
They're like a shook is shocking like sometimes like there's so less food there that they don't have to give anathe anesthesia you know like normally where you say look once you're gonna go under under an anesthesia don't eat for six to twelve hours they don't need to tell them that because they've got no food.
It's just so bad.
Um but that's the last hospital and so yeah they bumped all the hospitals and they were 30 right before I believe there was 30 yeah the uh above 30 and so what happened was they um they they claim that the Hamas are under hospitals but we've seen that all that that's been debunked you remember the calendar yeah yeah tell them about that one yeah there was like a c there was the one where they said look this is a rotor of a Hamas uh fighters and then when they showed it it was literally a calendar in Arabic of the names of like the days of the week Monday,
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
And so, and then that was one.
The second thing was they'd taken guns into the, into the certain areas, certain areas where there's, you know, magnetic areas or magnetic rooms where it wasn't possible that there would be weaponry in there.
And it was clean.
Is this it right here?
Is this one, this one was it right?
Yeah, that's it.
That's this.
There is a list in Arabic that says, we declare some war.
We are in operations.
She's taking the mic on.
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Hamas day.
That's it.
All right, yeah, this spokesman right here.
They're making fun of him.
After showing viewers a weekly calendar as evidence.
To support Israel's claims of Al-Ransi Hospital.
And Palestine's Gaza is a Hamas base.
This is a guardian list where every terrorist writes his name and every terrorist has his own shift guarding the people that were here.
Thank you.
bro that's crazy man it's literally a calendar with the days of the week written in Arabic and they're making fun of about this shit.
But sorry keep going but yeah this is like the bullshit that they do and like the fact they're like oh oops we should have put that one out this doesn't work and look there's many genuine people who've been to Gaza who don't have any kind of allegiance to like they're not Palestinian they're not Muslim.
They're just Western people who've gone there like Dr. Mads Gilbert he's a Norwegian guy went to Palestine obviously he's banned from Palestine now but he goes there as a doctor and he's been going there for many years and he was there during now during this uh since after October 7th and he literally said we never saw any one any Hamas member.
We never saw any Hamas person there.
And if there was, I would say, because I would disagree with it.
Like there shouldn't be any kind of military person within the sanctuary of a hospital.
So this, and actually, the only people who've uh uh uh been in hospitals pretending to be Hamas uh be is Israelis, right?
If you remember.
So in reality, yeah, yeah.
They've went into hospitals dressed up.
Yeah, yeah, I'll show I'll show you guys this.
I actually showed this to them before.
Um, but keep going.
Yeah, so that's the only people who actually when it comes to military personnel, being in a hospital, the only time it was done was by Israelis.
So, like all of that is just fake news.
That's it.
Yeah, right here.
Undercover Israeli forces in full trader hospital in the West Bank and kill three militants.
Now, this is a West Bank, but they were doing this in Gaza as well.
Matt coming up.
And guys, they do operations, they do shit like this all the fucking time in Israel, bro.
Uh, studying because like I told you guys before, there's you know, you got Mizrahi Jews that are literally Arabs, right?
That that are or some of them are even Palestinians, because uh there's Israeli Palestinians as well.
A new proposal for a truce in Gaza, but says its position for uh Okay, but um what's uh I'm trying to think here.
What's um so we covered the myths, the mass you want to talk about the mass grapes real quick?
Debunk that one real quick.
Yeah, yeah.
Um so that one's uh so obviously they claim that there was mass scripts.
Now that in reality, if you look at it, you mentioned about the GoPros.
They say they've got all the GoPro footage.
So why is it that when they've got all the GoPro footage, there's no none of it has been shown.
There's no videos of any form of rape.
They showed like a video of some woman who wasn't dressed that well, but they were at the Nova Festival, right?
Yeah.
Furthermore, they showed a fake uh uh um a fake one of this Kosovan woman, which was from the Kosovan War, which ended up being debunked.
We debunked that at that time.
Oh, okay.
And what it is is when they get to the picture from another conflict, yeah, exactly.
And so when it comes to the mass rape, there's zero evidence for it.
Now, the there was an investigation, right, by the UN, Premilla Patton.
She went to the United, she went to Israel, sorry, from from the UN, and she went to oh that's me Hashem, right?
So this was uh one of the first people that was released in the hostages negotiations, guys.
So I was closed in a dark room, not allowed to talk, not allowed to be seen, to be heard hidden.
Soldaber, she's mutah.
There's a terrorist looking at you 24-7, looking, raping you with his eyes.
I'll look at you 24-7.
I'll look at you 24-7.
Is that how you felt?
And she goes, obviously.
He had such a bad look.
So oh, he was graping me with his eyes.
Okay, bro.
Okay.
So what happened to her when she went back to Israel?
You want to tell them that story?
It's a funny story.
Go ahead.
Yeah, why about she got back to Israel?
So when she went back to Israel, she was actually raped by her fitness instructor who was an Israeli Jew.
Bro.
It's it's crazy.
It's crazy.
She she she was kidnapped by Hamas.
They didn't grape her, they graped her with their eyes.
She gets back to Israel, and then her personal trainer grapes her.
And you know what Israelis say?
They say she's got mental health problems.
That's what she said.
Oh, uh that uh, oh, they're claiming that okay.
So now she has mental health issues with when she accuses an Israeli.
But before it's like, so what did they do to you?
Oh, they raped you with your eyes.
Oh my god, that's horrible.
I mean, you can tell the pictures off her rock or look at her lips and shit, man.
You could tell.
Like, like, she's not all the more all the marbles aren't there, okay?
Lights are on, but nobody's home.
You know, like well, anyone that does this with their lips is like, what the fuck?
So anyway, uh, but go ahead.
You were saying something?
Yeah, I agree.
And then so the so what is the claim for rape?
Because there's zero evidence.
It's this UN official who goes to Israel who investigates it.
And then they pull out the big UN report.
Now, if you look at the UN report, I agree with the findings.
I don't agree with her conclusion.
Because the conclusion doesn't match the findings.
So and by the way, when she's doing the investigation, the reason she does the investigation is because an Israeli.
Uh her name is um Ruth Kadari.
She worked with Pramila Patton.
And so she gets a topic.
And who are these people?
Real quick.
So the Premilla Patton is the head of like uh the sexual violence in the UN.
Okay.
And uh Ruth Hadari is an Israeli Jew who used to be part of the UN.
Okay.
Now is no longer part of the UN, is friends with Pramila Patton, tells her to go to Israel, kind of directs her on what to do, and she's been um activated by Israel and has been put uh and by the Israeli foreign ministry to speak about rape in Israel and to propagate it uh through various uh projects, like she did the Dina project where she talked about the mass rape in Israel, and then she brings all of her connections, which Pramila Patton and the her connection to the UN to make these false claims of rape.
So it's basically an Israeli asset, paid by the Israeli government that essentially gets the UN to come and do this investigation, and basically I thought they didn't like let them in to do their investigations, or they didn't like uh Isra Israel wasn't transparent with um allowing the unit to come in and do their own because I know there's no physical evidence that was found, no brave kids, none of that other stuff.
They relied very heavily upon the way that the bodies were found, exactly, right?
Which we know that Zaka and these all other organizations purposely manipulate a bodies to make it look a certain way so they could get more donations.
That's right, like um uh Yasis Landberg, I think the guy's name is Yasala.
Uh yeah, Yassi Landberg and some of these other guys, where for those of you that are wondering, so obviously uh Judaism, just like with other religions, like with Christianity and Islam, the the but the people of the book, they typically want you to bury the individuals as quickly as possible, and there's certain rituals to prepare the body before you do so.
So these uh humanitarian organizations, what they'll do is when there's like scenes like this, they'll come and they'll pick up the bodies immediately to prepare them for burial.
And since a lot of these guys are Zaka and I forget the other one, what's the other one?
Um here, I'll I'll try to find this here.
Um did a good job of like um showing this.
Um but they get they're the first ones to get on the scene.
So what these guys do did on October 7th, which is like heinous, is they adjusted the bodies in certain ways to create a certain narrative.
That's right, and to get more money.
Because like one of these guys made 13 million dollars.
Oh, yeah, he made a lot of money.
An imagination was almost shut down.
Here we go, yeah.
Yassi Landau, this guy's bro.
I think this guy right here is probably one of the biggest criminals ever.
Like this guy should literally be tried and fucking punish the folks in the law because this guy's lies stand to this day.
Because he was one of the first people on there saying beheaded babies, babies in ovens.
And then when he got pressed, he finally said, Oh, yeah, I used my imagination.
Yes, what?
Well, guess what?
This imagination of yours has led to the systemic bombing and destruction of an entire group of people.
Because Netanyahu relied on these fucking bullshit narratives to sell this war.
That's right.
Unwonder.
They found babies and adults decapitated.
A complete and total hoax.
Israel and its proxies fed the media new tales of atrocities that were even more lurid than before.
Many of these came from one particular individual, Yossi Landau, a religious fanatic from a self-described rescue organization known as Zaka.
Of this 14 15-year-old, a head chopped off.
We were looking around for the head, couldn't find it.
145 year old head chopped off.
Despite lacking any forensic credentials or paramedic training, Zako volunteers were typically the first on the scene, and therefore able to make the most outlandish claims.
And again, guys, uh Judaism has very strict um burial laws, uh, according to Jewish law.
So this is why they get on there, they they they have to, you know, deal with the body in a certain way for a proper Jewish burial.
So that's why a lot of these organizations exist, uh, these crisis type organizations in Israel.
See Landau himself said that he never actually saw any atrocities take place, but that he used his imagination to tell the stories of the bodies he found.
When we go into a house, and we're using our imagination.
And what an imagination he has.
I would say about 280 bodies.
We go in the house and use our imagination.
These the 2080 casualties, I would say 80% was tortured.
Piles of 10 children each were tied to the back, burned to death.
When we go into a house and we see on one side of the dining room, there was parents, father and mother, hands tied to the back, and the other side of the room against them.
There was two children.
A girl and a boy.
The same position.
They were tortured.
Main thing, and I wouldn't call them animals, to open up all the food that was prepared for the holiday in these terrorists sitting and eating while torching the father and the kids, that their parents and the kids.
They should see each other how they're being tortured.
How evil could they be?
Landau's lies were promptly amplified by Israeli officials.
Took dozens of children, bunged them up, burned them, and executed them.
They beheaded soldiers.
Crazy.
A family of four.
A young boy and girl, six and eight years old, and their parents around the breakfast table.
The father his eye gouged out in front of his kids.
The mother's breast cut off.
The girl's foot amputated.
The boy's fingers cut off before they were executed.
And then their executioner sat down and had a meal.
There was just one problem for Landau and those who amplified his questionable claims.
No bodies found in Kibbutz Beri match the descriptions he made.
The story of the beheaded babies was also implausible according to official Israeli government data, which confirmed that only one baby...
So Kibbutz Bear Barry, only one one baby was killed.
And no children were killed.
Yeah.
The only um the only children well the children was allegedly two uh it was a family.
The family's name was is it Rossi or something?
I don't need to really look it up.
But basically, the um sister was an IDF agent.
And then the parents, obviously, the parents were obviously ex-IDF.
Uh-huh.
But the children obviously weren't, because they were either 16 and 18 or 16 and 14.
Okay.
So that's the only person under the age of 16 that was killed.
Gotcha.
Oh, sorry, that's I think that's either kibbutzbury or kibbutzkafa, one of them two.
Okay.
Yeah.
11-month-old Milo Cohen was killed on October 7th.
There you go.
Just one.
And she was tragically shot by accident through a door, not decapitated.
Landau also claimed to have a chance.
So one baby actually died, and the which is tragic, of course.
Um, but no one knows who killed her.
She was shot through a door.
As photos of a there's a high possibility that was.
Because remember it's Kabootz Berry, and that's why they were doing the shot artillery fire.
That it was, yeah.
Yeah, it was Barry was uh kibbutzbury was like one of the big the one of the um places where the the the fighting was the most intense between IDF and Hamas.
Yeah, and a lot of people died.
Okay.
Gotcha, gotcha.
Fetus that Hamas had cut from a pregnant woman's body.
Oh, you're not gonna be a good one.
Well, not only that there was fighting between them a lot, but there was a lot of Israeli artillery that was used in kibbutzbury compared to anywhere else.
Gotcha.
The tanks were shooting, yeah.
The tanks were shooting in there predominantly yeah, yeah.
Yeah, even the tank operators, which just so you guys know, the people that operate the tanks are the lowest of the low in the IDF.
Okay, the tank operators are considered retards, okay.
And I remember I watched like an interview or something like that, and one of the tank operators was like this fat Israeli woman, and she was like, Yeah, they just told us to shoot into the kibbutzes.
They said, fuck it, just shoot in there.
Get everybody get kill everything, like no one can take these hostages back.
Because you guys can see it creates a political nightmare for the Israeli government.
Yeah, right, because now they gotta pretend to care about the hostages.
Exactly.
Right?
So um, which actually we'll talk about uh what do you think about the deal going on right now?
Because I think there's been some um updates of the deal.
Down, turn it around, she was pregnant woman.
Bro, the stomach is butchered up, and and knife is still stacked in that baby.
The unborn baby.
Yet the images never materialized, even after the media requested them.
One fact Landau did prove, however, was that the business of And the lie is always gonna be more entertaining than the truth.
Fabricating a trap.
Because when he started saying this shit, people were running with it, like, oh, we need to destroy how uh uh Gaza.
Trump says it all the time.
Yeah, they still say this stupid shit.
For October 7th, his Zaka organization was nearly broke, but in the aftermath of the propaganda bonanza they fueled, they raked in over 13 million dollars.
13 in just a short amount of time.
The Israeli paper Haarets reported that Zaka volunteers were so desperate to cash in on October 7th that they actually rearranged corpses discovered in the kibbutz seam, literally BAM.
So there you go.
They're moving dead bodies around to paint a narrative to make more money.
Nuts.
And this comes from Israeli media chat.
Playing with dead bodies in order to exaggerate the sense of horror before sending the images to potential donors.
One of Zaka's competitor organizations, United Hatzala.
Well, yeah, this guy was like, bro, these guys can't.
No, man, we gotta compete.
We gotta make our money too.
There we go, that's the other guy.
Ellie Beer and Yassi Landau.
Don't forget those names, guys.
These two guys are two of the main atrocity propaganda creators for the October 7th narrative.
There, Beer rattled off a slew of lies that Yossi Landau would have been proud to have concocted.
I saw in my own eyes, a woman who was pregnant, four months pregnant.
They came into her house in front of her kids, opened up her stomach, took out the baby and stabbed a little tiny baby in front of her, and then shot her in front of her family.
And then they killed the rest of the kids.
I saw little kids who are beheaded.
We didn't know which head belongs to which kid.
We saw a little baby in the oven.
They put him in these bastards, put these babies in an oven and put on their oven.
We found the kid a few hours later.
These guys should go to fucking jail for these lies, bro.
These guys should go to fucking jail, bro.
This is absolutely nuts.
Absolutely nuts, guys.
Because remember, these statements, guys, were being made in the days after 10-7.
So emotions were high, people were pissed off, and they used this atrocity porn to justify the relentless fucking bombing campaign slash genocide that we're seeing now.
This was all used to substantiate their merciless um campaign on the Gaza Strip, bro.
Story of a baby baked in an oven.
Clearly contrived to evoke the horrors of the Holocaust.
They baked their baby in the oven and casting.
Boom, America Media picked it up.
Look at Fox News.
woman alive so that she could hear the screams of her child melting.
Little children that were put in the oven.
Attacks that saw a baby put in an oven and baked alive.
And even though this lie was also quickly debunked, it contributed to the narrative that Israel was confronting quote unquote human animals, as its defense minister Joav Galant put it.
Again, this is the same guy I showed you guys the interview of when he said that uh Hannibal Directive was activated.
And he goes right there, we're fighting human animals.
And it therefore had the right to do anything.
And then in that speech where this rant that he gave, he said, no water, no power, no food, no nothing.
Gaza strip is closed off.
These guys are human animals, that's who we're fighting.
Absolutely.
Is pretty much what he said in summit substance.
Anything to prevent another October 7th.
In Kashmir, in Mazon, in Maim and Delik.
Look, there's no denying that atrocities took it.
And that proves right there that they're occupied.
The fact that Israel can cut off all their shit like that, yeah, literally proves that they're occupied and they have no sovereignty.
Right?
People say, oh, well, why are they fighting Israel so much?
Bro, they have no freedom.
The fact that they can control all the food and water and everything else coming in and they can starve them like they are doing now, and they've been doing it for like two years.
That should tell you guys, you know, what it really is.
But Israel wasn't content to capitalize on the atrocities that had been clearly documented on camera.
They just weren't sufficient to give Tel Aviv the political latitude it needed to mount a full-scale ethnic cleansing.
Yeah, they could have used the footage they had with the GoPros, but he's right.
It was not shocking enough to see IDF soldiers get killed.
They needed to, you know, put it in a certain way where it's like, oh no, these guys are um killing kids and women graping them and all this other stuff.
Campaign.
Netanyahu himself outlined the cynical logic directly.
Up look, here he is meeting with Zaka.
Here he is meeting with Zaka.
Hey, we need you guys to really lie for us, man.
You guys need to get us this war.
Dressed Zaka volunteers and told them that their mission was to grant him the maneuvering room he needed to totally destroy Gaza.
Bam.
You have an important role influencing public opinion.
The war is not only to take care of the 1400 people, but also to give us maneuvering room.
We know what that means.
So the image of Hamas is a band of psychotic, ISIS-like, irrational Muslim fanatics, rather than a resistance group representing a popular constituency, rebelling against being eternally confined to a de facto internment camp, had to be reinforced over and over again.
The utter depravity and the barbaric nature with which these terrorists uh murdered And then these guys, this this Hasbara got pushed in the United States, bro, crazy murdered and butchered uh innocent Israeli civilians.
Among Israel's key talking points, dutifully repeated by its stooges in the US media.
Was that the death toll on October 7th represented, quote, the largest killing of Jews since the Holocaust.
Or in the wake of the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust.
The largest loss of Jewish life in a day since the Holocaust.
It was the deadliest day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust.
I would argue it's the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust.
And to be honest, like if this is like the most deadly day for Jews since the Holocaust, it means they've had it easy because like you can give m a huge number of examples of not just Palestinians.
Sorry, guys.
Not just Palestinians, but various other people being killed in large numbers in one day.
So it's just like just demonstrates that.
Another person who I think is highly problematic in all this is David Ben Zion as well.
He was the guy who made the lie up about the 40 beheaded babies.
Let me pull him up real quick.
David Ben Zion?
Yeah.
Let me see.
He um he basically made the lie about the before he bad babies.
And if you look at his um history, he was a settler.
He what he talked about how he wanted to destroy Palestinians, how he wanted to murder them.
I believe he put I believe if I remember right, he did put Palestinian.
Do you want me to search him on YouTube instead?
I don't know any of that.
Uh David Ben Zion, yeah.
Yeah, let me.
I don't know if he's on YouTube.
Uh videos.
He's the one who um yeah, he's the guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I seen this guy.
Yeah.
We're stronger than them.
They are aggressive.
They're very bad.
They cut her.
Of children, cut out of woman.
Yeah, this guy was um one of the yes, dude, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're right.
Um, yeah, let me see if I can get YouTube so I can get it better because Instagram is fucking garbage.
David Ben Zion.
Here we go.
Bam.
Uh, we walk door after door, we killed the road of the tourists.
We are stronger than them.
They are aggressive, they are very bad.
They cut her off chillin' cutter of women.
But we are stronger than them.
Bro, complete fucking.
Yeah, that's yeah, the uh uh that got kidnapped from the festival.
You know what's funny?
They gave her they when they gave her back, she seemed fine.
She wasn't skinny and gone and all fucked up.
But like when the Palestinians they get them back, they're all cooked.
This line was obvious.
Hamas had set out to kill Israelis simply because they were Jews, not because they were military occupiers.
But was Hamas solely responsible for the death toll?
According to the official Israeli line, Hamas slaughtered 1400 completely innocent people on October 7th.
But it's since been confirmed that at least 380 of the dead were actually uniformed Israeli soldiers engaged in maintaining the siege of Gaza.
After several weeks, the official death toll was reduced to 1200, of which 695 were Israeli civilians.
After coroners determined that at least 200 Palestinians, including fighters and average citizens who entered Israeli territory, were contained in the original count.
In fact, photos of Palestinians...
Yeah, this is what you're talking about here, where they were charged so bad.
...killed by Israeli missiles inside Israel's southern Gaza envelope were distributed as evidence of the savagery of Hamas against Jewish-Israeli civilians.
But these photos raise another inconvenient question.
How did Israeli helicopter and drone pilots differentiate between Palestinians and Israelis in the chaos around the kibbutz scene?
I was one of the first Western journalists.
You want to say something?
Go ahead.
No, no, I agree.
That's the point that we made earlier, right?
That how could they differentiate between not just an Israeli soldier and Israeli civili civilian, but even a Palestinian.
Yeah, using night vision therapy, like it's they're literally using like thermal vision here.
Like you can't see anything.
All you see is heat signatures.
Question And and figures running around.
Israeli military itself had in fact killed many Israeli citizens on October 7th, relying on interviews in Israeli media with helicopter pilots who said they had no.
Okay, um, I'll read some of these chats.
Uh Debbie Siliman Sullivan from mayor of Islamabad in London, inshallah.
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O slash gripe or O slash uh UBA says, no, it was a real cow done by a priest.
It was no test run pull up Adam King video.
How he said they deceived the world.
You know what?
Let me go ahead.
Let's look this up.
Yeah, I think he's right.
Adam King.
Timcast.
Oh.
Maybe it's this one.
It is speculated now that they may have a pure red heifer meaning no blemishes.
You're saying they can use it to consecrate the ground, but what does that signify?
All the early Christian church fathers.
Oh no, this isn't him.
There you go.
Well, yeah, this chick backed out, guys.
She's a coward.
They're supposed to be.
Yeah, it's it's the you know, I might have to just a six minute one, just like five minutes.
There's a six minutes.
Oh.
Okay, where?
Uh just that.
Oh, yeah, shit.
This was a big thing over at InfoWars and on the dissident right media for the longest time.
The Jew is.
This guy is so fucking insufferable, man.
Hate media.
Yeah, do you have my tweet that I actually put on my uh so I basically what happened?
If you want to go to the case, then he goes here.
No, it was a real cow done by a priest.
It was no test run.
Pull up the Adam King video, uh, how he said they deceived the world.
Okay, we got it right now.
Debbie stream slowly on the debrief house.
Let's fun go, love you, brother.
Okay.
Um Jay says, Your Martina from Purdue University.
I just left my TPOSA chapter meeting.
We went over Charlie's possible wavering support of Israel and did agree.
Uh did uh agree slash disagree activity on Israel young cousin are waking up.
What's your what's your thoughts on the whole Charlie Kirk thing, by the way?
Do you have uh I think Israel did it?
You think Israel did it?
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
I think um You want to give your theory like why?
Yeah, yeah, sure.
So or do you want me to do it after this Adam King thing?
Whichever you want.
We've got lots of different.
Yeah, I'll read these, then we'll do that and then we'll do it.
Okay.
Um that way you you have the full floor.
Um shout out Shalomi Zayance, okay.
Salute, my brother, appreciate your hard work as always.
Got you.
Slug for you.
Uh what about the mass flood as a catalyst?
James says I've been eating about 2500 calories a day and plan to get to 180 in uh three months.
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Dear Chow, I'm not a feminist, but I'm against Sharia patrols in Europe and force hijabs like they did in Masha Amini and uh Iran and child marriages and honor killings, which is very common in Muslim countries.
Um so first of all, I'm not a feminist, but I'm against Sharia patrols in Europe.
Like there are no Sharia patrols in Europe.
This is what I mean.
Like, this is just fake news.
Like, give me an example, like a real example of there being sharia patrols.
That's not happening.
Uh for hijab like they did in like again, there isn't for hijab.
Now, is there certain families who maybe tell their sip uh family members to wear hijab?
Yeah, but how is the force hijab again?
Like, this is that is something that's internal within the family.
And if you look at it, actually, generally speaking, in the UK, the Muslim community has become very much westernized.
There's not even that many people wearing hijab.
Um, child marriages, that's just fake news.
That doesn't even happen.
Like, give me an example of when child marriages happen.
And obviously, you guys know my position on the Aisha thing.
I don't know, believe she was an eye child.
Honor killings, honor killings again, that doesn't happen much.
Of course, that's more cultural rather than religious.
So that's a cultural issue uh for certain cultures, but not religion, because in religion, you know, honor killing is not permissible.
Uh they're they're not permissible anymore, or at all.
Like in Islam, there's you're not allowed to do honor killings.
So when they do these honor killings, it's a cultural issue.
So it might be within like the Pakistani community, it might be within the Arab communities.
Uh but in Islam, it's not honor killings, it's not permissible.
Gotcha.
So is it not like it's not in the Quran at all?
It's not another.
It's not even uh the hadith or anything.
Nothing.
There you go.
Well, that's important that we have someone that's well-versed.
Remember, we have a legal, in Islam, we have a very important concept, which is found in Western society, right?
If you look at the American constitution, what's it based on?
It's based on the Magna Carta.
The Magna Kata is based on Christianity, so it's Christian values and Christian law.
And it's very similar to Islamic law.
So Islamic law has a legal system.
You don't believe in vigilanteism.
We don't believe in people taking the law into their own hands.
Everything goes through the legal system.
For example, homosexuality, homosexuality is not allowed, but the only but that's with all people off the roof is not.
Exactly.
That's that's not that's just like extreme element within Islam.
Yeah, but it within them normal Islamic law.
So it's not official.
This is just what groups of people, yeah.
Because the whole throwing them off the roof, I was like, what the fuck?
I've never heard of this before.
Like that's uh okay.
It's not in Sharia law, it's not in the four schools of uh Sharia.
And so what it what it what the Quran says is homosexuality is not allowed.
Yeah.
Compare that to the Baad and Torah, they actually say murder the homosexual.
Gotcha.
So already.
Home sexuality is punished by uh capital punishment.
Whereas in the Islam, it doesn't tell you how to punish them.
In the Quran it doesn't.
But then what does the hadith say?
A hadith and then Islamic law, then there's difference of opinion.
Depending on what because when people say Sharia Allah, what do you mean?
Do you mean the Hanafi Sharia Allah?
Do you mean the Shafi Sharia law?
Do you mean the Maliki Sharia law?
Do you mean the Hambali Shafia Sharia law?
Salafis don't really have a Sharia law.
But I guess if they were in charge, theirs would be a bit more harsher.
Um so like for example, me, I'm Hanafi.
Hanafis are the most lenient when it comes to some of these punishments.
Is that what's is that what most of Muslim world uh practices?
Yeah, hanafi.
Okay, yeah.
Especially people from Pakistan and India and Bangladesh.
Okay.
And then Central Asia and yeah, but the most of the Muslim world.
Is Hanafi.
Yeah, exactly.
And so within there, there is punishment, but it's like, for example, it's uh admonishment.
But again, it's only punishment, it's not punishment for being homosexual.
That's not allowed.
But if you did it in the privacy of your room, you wouldn't actually be punished.
It's when you do public indecencies when you're punished.
Oh.
So the punishment for homosexuality is the same as heterosexual sexual couple having sex in public.
Okay.
Adultery.
Gotcha.
Doing adultery.
Which isn't that a hundred slash.
No, adultery is death, right?
No, so in Hanafi, it's lashes.
Okay.
Yeah, and again, what is lashes?
Lashes with a paddle.
So it's again to restrict the.
I thought it was pre-premarital sex hundred slash hundred lashes, right?
Um, if you're not married, but if you're married, it was death.
So in Hanafi, it's uh premarital is 40, and then uh adultery is 120.
Okay, so it's not death.
Who which school says is death?
I uh I believe it's the Shafi school.
Okay, which is I'm guessing you're like because you're uh your people from Sudan were mainly Shafi, aren't they?
So yeah, probably, yeah.
They're more extreme.
Um stream, uh Myron Sully on debriefhouse, let's go.
Okay.
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I appreciate that, man.
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Um, another Freedom uh flotilla coalition just got attacked on camera, Freedom Flotilla uh coalition and the Navy rated uh freedom for yeah.
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Um Meta says, please cut the J tube stream.
There are a bunch of ungrateful, retarded maggots.
Okay.
Um I haven't even looked at the YouTube chat.
Are they talking shit?
What else is new?
All right, we'll watch this Adam King thing here with the cows, and then we'll get into uh Sully's thoughts on Charlie Kirk.
The first slide first before we play the video.
About a month ago on July 1st, the uh there was an announcement that um they were gonna do a practice run of the red heifer.
And prior to this, the media outrage that the Jews were gonna go do this red effort, you had like these lunatics like Stu Peters and and others who were saying this is gonna usher in the antichrist, blah blah blah.
And it was like a real big media bully gun.
It was really a bad uh a bad twist.
So they said that they were and also the government wasn't gonna let them.
So what they did was they said we're just gonna do a practice one with a disqualified, one of the five disqualified cats.
Uh, for for those of you that are wondering, this is the guy that I think it was um McGinnis.
I think they were doing the debate.
Uh I think Nick Fuentes was debating this guy, and that he asked them who if you had to get rid of one religion, who would it be?
He didn't even think he said Catholics immediately.
Yeah, because yeah, he didn't say he didn't say Muslims.
Everyone thought he was gonna say Muslims.
But if you ask him now, he doesn't say anymore.
He's like, no, no, no, that's uh no, that's not a man because he's realized that that doesn't help with the narrative.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
But really, Jews and Catholics or Jews and Christians have had beef for 2000.
Yeah, wait, yeah, wait.
Yeah, this this beef for Muslims now is new.
Like, this is like a modern uh, you know, a modern uh uh conflict.
It's a modern conflict.
It's modern supportion based on 1948.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
So it's like basically uh 20th century shit, right?
But with with with their beef with the with the Catholics and the Christians, oh man.
That goes the hundred thousands of years.
Yeah, throughout history, yeah.
You know, they've been uh most of the countries they've been exiled from, guys were Christian countries, right?
When they got out about you know, like uh when the actually, as a matter of fact, even Rabbi Shmuli, right, admits it to this day that um the Ottoman Empire saved them by taking them in in 1492 when they got kicked out of Spain.
This is true.
So basically, uh so you can put him there would be no Jews without Muslims.
Yes.
They literally stay saved them many times throughout history.
Yeah.
So Memonidas, who's one of their most foremost scholars, literally hates Christians because of them basically trying to like, you know, excommunicate them and basically kill them off.
Yeah.
This whole Muslim um Jewish beef is is new because of the conflict in the Middle East.
That's why it's so dumb.
Part of that, it was it was it was always with Christians.
Yeah, and that's why it's so dumb when they always like, oh, these guys be uh a lot of beef for a thousand years and they'll continue to beef, which is not true.
The beef was always between Jews and Christians.
Always.
Yeah, and and I think um someone was saying it.
Um the reason why, you know, especially like the devout Jews like this guy, they're still pissed off about when they took the stuff out of the temple.
Like they got menores of theirs and old old uh textbooks and shit like that.
So they never let that go, right?
So, yeah, but he didn't even hesitate, dude.
It was like, no, it would be the Catholic church, 100%.
I had to get rid of them.
Because they got I think they have some of their shit in the Vatican somewhere.
The government said, okay, whatever.
They ended up going out, doing a real cow.
Uh one of the the cow's name was Tikva.
They made the offering, and uh I actually fucking named the cow uh it was a real offering.
They did it all what does Tikva mean?
No idea.
All by the way anyone speak Hebrew here?
Pause.
And I have with me some of the ashes right here, red heifer ashes.
Um, and uh it's it's pretty incredible.
The red heifer, the last time that the red heifer was done was over 2,000 years ago.
The first time it was done by Moses, the second time it was done by Ezra from the book in the Bible, and that shows you how long the ashes can last for.
So a pure red heifer doesn't come about all the time.
And in this generation, we had 21 of them that were born.
Pure, pure.
They picked seven to bring to uh Israel, and um out of the seven, Israel only allowed them to have five brought in, and they've been sitting around just doing nothing because the media outrage has been so astronomical about it.
Uh, but they f but and they bought them from Texas, if I'm not mistaken, chat.
They spent like half a million dollars getting these cows, it was not cheap.
But the red heifer people, they fooled everybody, and they successfully performed the ritual about a month ago.
Now, in the ritual, uh, you're supposed to have hyssop.
I have also hyssop that is from the actual ritual, and also the red heifer ashes, and these get put into a clay jar and then sprinkled on people in a healing ritual, and it removes the impurity of death and allows for people to heal.
So since this started, they have been sprinkling on people.
There was an a man with Alzheimer's who just started remembering everything, sight to the blind.
There's some real miracles that have happened in the last month since this thing has gone down.
Is this considered Kabbalah?
Practices?
No, I don't think so.
No, this is not because okay.
Um, but the ashes, just like I have a little bag, there was ten and a half gallons of ashes, and this is only a dime bag full, and these ashes have been disseminated, they're here to stay, they will never be found.
Oh, sorry.
So many people have them.
Sorry, if you're talking about the red heifer sacrifice, no, I think that's normal Judaism.
Okay, but like this ashes stuff.
Yeah, and using it for healing.
I think that is this is considered Kabbalah.
Okay.
This little bag can Would this be considered um this be considered like uh witchcraft?
I mean under and sorcery under like Islam.
This is controversial.
So I'll tell you the two different opinions.
Okay.
So obviously if you shout out to the other guy with uh appreciate you, man, on kick.
Good.
Nice.
Um, so uh according to like obviously like Salafis and probably many others, they would say it's not permissible.
This is witchcraft.
They'd say, Oh, it's it's uh not witchcraft, but they call it like um like uh bidda, like you know, something that's a new innovation.
Okay, uh, and like you know, maybe even this is disbelief.
Okay, um, whereas Sufis would say now there is like these kind of things that you can do from a spiritual nature that may have certain benefits.
Gotcha.
So it could go either way.
Yeah, but not something like that, but uh like more in this like spiritual aspects of it.
Interesting.
Chris in the chat, what is this considered?
Is this considered uh oh yeah, some of the name of say yeah, they for Christianity guys, my Christian guys would would this be considered witchcraft in Christianity?
Um Christians don't have kind of like a similar thing in in terms of like that kind of spiritual aspect.
They don't have it, no, yeah.
So they would probably consider this witchcraft.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Uh oh, some of these some of the Muslims in here are saying no, it's witchcraft.
Yeah, yeah, they will.
Uh A lot of them may believe that, yeah.
Witchcraft, yeah, satanic, New Testament witchcraft, heresy.
Yeah, I'm just looking at all the different things here.
All right, lots of different opinions.
Well, I'm right about Sufism, right?
You guys agree, like within Sufi tradition, they have this concept.
Like, for example, you know, in um So, for example, oh, actually, all Muslims believe this, right?
You know, when a when the when the child is born, you sacrifice an animal, and then you give that animal to people as uh as like um as um as like a f um you know as as a as a way of blessings.
So Muslims believe in blessings, right?
And they believe in good reward and they believe the blessings will come.
But then the difference is that like Sufis may believe that, like, let's say things are going wrong for you.
If you were to sacrifice an animal, maybe it may bring things that are better for you, because maybe that evil eye that you've got will be taken away by sacrificing the animal.
Damn.
Okay.
Power about 10,000 doses.
Bro has a fucking cow bag of cocaine.
Power about it's that that makes it sound like uh really potent cocaine.
This is the this is the stuff right here.
Message for fun.
This is the but uh we could um we could go smoke this after the show, but uh no, I'm just kidding.
Come back from the dead after you do something like that.
But I have a video from the ritual, and if you want to play it, I don't know if you're not music.
It has copyrighted music.
Do you can you slide it so people could see this thing?
Yeah, I've been doing that.
So these are the slides of the actual of the actual um ceremony being taken place.
And that's taking the cow, then they burn it, right?
Yeah.
And uh everything was done specifically according to Halacha, which is Jewish law.
Uh it was a perfect cow.
And uh doesn't have a single Okay, uh uh Kalakala is their Sharia law.
Yeah, okay.
And it's stricter than isn't isn't it stricter than um Yeah, there are Sharia law.
And also it could never have been burdened with work.
So you can't you can't even lean a shovel up against the cow.
They have to be treated in a very specific way for their whole life, and then the person who does the ritual can never have been in contact with death.
So the so basically they're not allowed to go to they have to be of a specific bloodline, and what they do was they raise these children in like these elevated homes above the ground, and they never leave the home until they're ready to do the rituals.
And that's uh like how they never come into contact with death.
So the priest who did this literally lived in his home for over 20 years before he never left?
Nope.
Because he was born to do this ritual.
Wow.
And uh now that it's been done, uh the Messiah can come.
Okay, so this is you're talking you're talking about the return of the return of the Mac.
Here we go.
So this is this is like the the Jewish Messiah is gonna come back.
Would that be similar?
Would that be like the return of Christ?
Or it would it be a different thing.
Here's the thing.
I think the most fundamental difference between Judaism and Christianity.
Yeah, yeah, return, yeah, return of antichrist.
Reincarnation.
You notice when whenever um like Jews like him or Ben uh Shapiro are asked about Jesus, like they dance around it.
Yeah, yeah.
Like they're like, yeah, go to church.
Like uh, you know, they're like they they you know they don't want to say that they reject him, right?
Like I I've noticed that when they do these interviews, they really dance around this hard.
Yeah, which is always funny.
I remember uh when Shapiro was asked by Ju Rogan, he said, Oh, Jesus is a rebel, and then he got he got he got what he deserved.
He got what he deserved, right?
Yeah, but this was a long this is like years ago, right?
This is when his fanboys would just not even pick up on the like 2016, 2017, yeah.
So now they're way more cautious when they do these interviews.
Exactly.
But the reality is like what they look at him as a sorcerer, right?
Like they look at him like he's completely rejected.
Yeah, his degenerate.
He's basically someone who can't be accepted, like he did something that was harm, harmful to society, and he had to be taken out.
Okay.
And so the Messiah is here in every generation, and there's a process by which we are awakened enough to accept the Messiah.
So if the Messiah doesn't come, he dies, he's reconstituted, born into the matrix again, and has to find his way back to another thing.
We can't build the temple until this happened.
And now that this happened, the Messiah can come build the third temple in Jerusalem.
Alright.
So um hit us with the case that the end What are your thoughts on and if you want me to show you a video by the we'll pull up a video or anything like that?
Let me know.
What are your thoughts on uh Charlie Kirk?
So you have your theory here with with Israel.
You want to take us through it real quick?
Yeah, cause you're gonna be able to do it.
Yeah, take your time.
So I think what it is is there's uh um the reasoning.
I thought the strongest reasoning open till Candace Owens released the latest texts, which kind of showed that first of all, it confirmed and proved that there was the Jewish donor who did pull out.
And uh also the fact that in a group chat, Charlie Kirk literally said, like, I'm not gonna like I'm gonna turn on Israel.
Like, I'm not gonna be supporting Israel anymore.
Now, many people would argue that wait a sec.
Why would you know, how would they be able to plan the death within 48 hours?
You know, the assassination.
But if you think about it logically, and they had that thing booked for a while.
The the the arena, the event where they did it, yeah.
Um, which they can do because the the arena being booked doesn't mean you can get like you don't, you know, how long does it take to get a shooter out there?
Now you could do it in two days, but what's more likely is that this wouldn't have been the first person or the first person he told.
He could have said this to many other people in terms of Robert Shillman pulling out and the fact that he wants to turn on Israel.
So I don't think this was the first incident.
Furthermore, I think that the biggest motive for why he he was gonna turn on Iran is uh sorry, turn on Israel is because of the war in Iran.
So one of my sources who is uh close friends with um Charlie Kirk said that during the first war with Iran, Charlie Kirk was the only person who was against American war with Iran.
Yeah, and didn't he go to the White House about this?
Yeah, he did.
So that's that's that's confirmed true.
He went there and Trump told him, no, we're not talking about this, right?
Well, that bit my source didn't say that bit was from Max Blumuth.
The fact that Trump got angry with him and threw him out or whatever.
Okay.
And there were witnesses there.
Sorry?
And there were witnesses there, right?
Was this like at the Oval Office or some other event?
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Oh, he went to the Oval Office and said the shit.
Okay.
But directly to Trump.
Yeah.
Uh so my one is he said it to Trump.
Max Bluments says he said it Trump and Trump got angry.
But the point is, both of us, both of our sources say that um Charlie Kirk was the only person against the war with Iran.
Okay.
Pete Heggseth, um, what's his name again?
Uh Rubio, Vance, all of us supporting the war with Iran.
Really?
Yeah.
I I heard it was Mike Waltz that was for it.
Rubio surprisingly said no, he wasn't for it.
Yeah.
At least that's what I heard.
Yeah, that's publicly.
That's fake.
Like everything they bring out in the public is like never true.
Okay, so you remember they made it look like Vanessa.
So the whole cabinet was saying war.
Do it.
Yeah.
And only Charlie Kirk was the one against it.
And obviously, as me and you know, like Israel Iran really did smash Israel up quite a bit.
And so America decided to not get involved, and that's a problem.
Now they're planning to go to war with Iran again, as we know.
And it's gonna happen, we believe, in the next couple of months.
But whenever it happens, it's quite clearly being demonstrated Israel cannot defeat Iran.
And without American support, they need America to be involved.
If America's not involved, Israel will lose the war and they will cease to exist.
And so you've got your existence on the line.
How long do you think they would last?
I give it a week.
How long do you think they'd last if they didn't have US support?
Yeah, less than a week.
Because even these 12 days, they were struggling, a few more days or at least another week.
Do you think Jordan and Egypt would uh cr crush their fucking um Camp uh Camp David uh cords and just like go in and support the uh other Arabs?
Well, you don't even need that though.
That's what's the interesting thing.
Like, as long as those countries weren't helping Israel, Iran would just destroy him.
So if no one supported Israel, they'd be gone within days.
Um when you look at the Iran situation, you look at the fact that he was turning on Israel, and based on these leaks, it's a lot more significant than I thought.
There is extreme motive, and they have the best motive to take is uh to get Israel.
Now, in terms of how sorry, in terms of killing Kirk, now in terms of killing Kirk, there's two possibilities.
And the problem that you've got is that there's so many kooky people telling fake stories that you don't what happens is they do this on purpose as part of an intelligence operation.
So you know like how in 9-11.
You had the real question marks about what happened.
You have the official narrative, then you had the real question marks, and then they'd come up with kooky stories like there was no planes, it was remote control and all these kind of things.
Speaking of which, um Ryan Dawson um released the re-release of the 9-11 thing.
What I'm thinking is, I don't know how long you you uh because I know you've had a long day though.
You've been doing you How many interviews you did today?
Like four?
I've done quite a few, yeah.
I'm like Yeah, you go going hard in the paint.
Um, what I was thinking, guys, is we'll do our discussion here and then we're gonna cut to OSS and then react to that documentary and we'll watch like an hour of it together.
Um OSS only, of course.
So uh my community.
But yeah, uh, do you watch it already or no?
Yeah, I watched the hour thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He re-released it, guys.
He re-released The Empire on Mass, so we're gonna watch it uh better quality.
Uh so it's gonna be lit.
It's uh we'll watch it together here, watch about an hour or whatever, so I don't hold Sullivan here forever.
Like I went to South Korea and I watched it with Dawson before it got released.
And then there was like it wasn't the final version, it was like very close to the final version, but it was so good.
So um, oh shit, we got Bills in.
Okay, guys, I'm trying to do like some texture here on the side.
So Sully, thank you so much for helping me out with with uh you know keeping them entertained while I do this text shit.
Um but um well Bills is here now, so I think I should be okay.
Okay, so take us through take us through the uh Charlie A. So then so then what give us your theory.
Why do you think why do you think he was involved?
Why do you think Israel was involved?
Um what's your evidence for it?
Um, you know, where do you stand as of today?
Because I know people change their views every single day.
Uh obviously Candace Allen's blew the lid open yesterday, released a bunch of text messages from a group chat.
So go ahead and take us through.
Yeah.
So I've explained the motive.
And in terms of um how it was done.
So like I said, sorry, with September the 11th, they create create extravagant theories, so you don't question the real narrative because people are like, whoa, these are cookies.
So some of like the cookie theories are like, oh, it was the pager attack, there were drone attacks, there was like 10 shooters, you know, there was movement, like his his security detail were helping out.
Like I think all these things are crazy and wacky, but this is part of an intelligence operation.
Like when I was mentioned about September the 11th, they did that on purpose because the hijackers were linked to Mossad, right?
And Mossad how we're handling them.
Yes, one of the guys, the Lebanese guy.
For those of you that guys that are wondering for for 9-11, um fuck, those Lebanese guy, his cousin, first cousin, was a uh spy for Mossad against Hezbollah.
That's right, yeah.
Yes.
But in addition to that Jara.
Yeah, and and this time Ryan Dawson showed a number of the other hijackers connected to Mossad.
Oh, so there's not just one anymore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so what that demonstrates is when they do these theories, it takes actually sometimes hides Israeli involvement.
Yeah.
Because if there's not hijackers, there's no Israeli involvement.
Except for the dancing Israelis and the people in the uh generation.
I see what you're saying.
The R students.
I see what you're saying.
So I do I'm I'm against those people who are doing these kind of extravagant stuff stories like Ryan Mata.
But generally speaking, I do think that there was Israeli involvement because there's two theories that I think are credible.
One is it was Tyler uh Robinson.
Okay.
All right.
So you do you do believe that Tyler Robinson had a play in this and that it was a shooter?
Yeah.
Okay.
That the that's what I'm 5050 on it.
Okay.
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