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Oct. 2, 2025 - MyronGainesX
02:54:59
Myron v Tatum Israel/Palestine Debate!
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All right, all right, and we are live.
What's up, guys?
Uh what's up, what's up, what's up?
We are live.
I'm here with Brandon Tatum, man, aka Officer Tatum.
What's up, Brandon?
Uh here, let me see if I can unmute you real quick.
There you go.
I get it.
Gotcha.
What's up, man?
What's up?
What's up, what's up?
What's happening?
Good, good, good.
Uh, real quick, uh, can you just quickly introduce yourself to the audience and I guess we'll kind of get right into it after because I know we got limited time.
Yeah, for those of you don't know me, I'm the officer Tatum, aka Talmud Tatum.
I can see it in the description.
Tell Mutatum steam for some of y'all.
But anyway, man, former police officer, uh college football player.
I uh started my social media journey while you know, after being a cop for a while, and I built a a pretty big empire.
I have over 20, 30 employees here.
Um we do a lot of stuff here.
So uh that's pretty much it.
And you were uh you were uh with uh Phoenix Police Department, right?
I was Tucson Police Department for about six and a half years, and I did SWAT, I was a field training officer, uh I was a spokesperson for the police department for about a year.
So I did a lot of things on the police department.
Nice, nice.
We'll have to have a conversation on that uh one day.
Uh 'cause you know, I was with uh with HSI for many years.
So we could definitely uh have a good discussion on that.
Especially Tucson.
It's a very busy uh city for for HSI, man.
Uh you're not too far from the border.
Yeah.
It's crazy out there.
So uh I know me and you've been going back and forth, right?
Um we we disagree on some things, but I think it's always been a very civil and uh respectful discourse among uh, you know, from our disagreements.
One of the big things that we disagree on, obviously is uh, you know, Israel and our aid and our uh support of them.
Um I think my audience kind of knows my position already.
Do you kind of want to give yours so people don't mischaracterize where you stand with Israel?
Yeah, I mean my support or or you know, I'm I'm a stunt Zionist, uh to say it bluntly.
Um, but my support for Israel is twofold.
Um I think it's a strategic uh support by the United States of America to have Israel as a partner.
I think we find Israel for strategic purposes, which I agree with.
I don't agree with everything Israel does, but for the most part, I think that they're uh a valuable partner for us.
Also, there's a spiritual element of it.
Uh biblically speaking, uh Israel and the state of Israel, the promised land, the Jewish people are all part of my faith.
And God has made a promise to those people, and we should honor that promise.
And so I support and believe in Israel spiritually and support uh the state of Israel, the Jewish state.
And then also they're our biggest ally for a reason.
And I'm I'm full support of that.
Okay.
Um, cool.
So I guess the you know, I know the spiritual reasons that that could be a whole discussion in itself, what getting into, you know, Christianity and the the theology behind this.
So I'll just kind of keep it strictly more um contemporary and from a military slash US foreign policy perspective.
So you think you so you're saying like from strategic purposes, can you kind of elaborate on that a little bit more as to like why you think they're a good strategic partner or are valuable ally?
Yeah, because uh I'm not a I'm an American first person, but I'm not an isolationist.
Uh and I understand that there's value in America having uh strategic partners all over the world to help us in defense, to help us against uh common enemies.
And I think Israel's position in the Middle East, and they've been just dead.
I mean, in order for us not to have our troops fighting on the ground and dying for every war that goes on in the Middle East and fighting against enemies that hate America, they wish death to America.
Um, we have strategic partners like Israel and with technology and other things that Israel brings to the table outside of our Judeo-Christian connection.
Um, that's pretty much why I think that they are a partner for us and why they are beneficial in America or for America's interest.
And we can see that on a lot of scales.
We'll get to it in a, you know, as we go through the conversation, but there's many uh fights, wars, and battles that America don't have to fight because we have Israel.
Fair.
Um my argument to that would be I think that they have brought on a lot of the wars and the problems that we're currently dealing with.
Um, for example, right?
Um, we know for a fact that Israeli intelligence was out there during 9-11, and 9-11 spurred the entire war on terror that we're still dealing with to this day.
Um, Israeli intelligence were the ones that basically gave us the botched information about the weapons of mass destruction.
Uh, when you look at all of the architects for the Iraqi war, almost all of them from Peanak and the people that authored the clean break memo were all Jewish Zionists, right?
Dual allegiance jewel uh Jewish Zionists from you know Bill Kristol to Douglas Fife to uh Daniel Pearl to Wolfowitz, all these guys, all the architects of the uh Iraq war, were all Jewish uh neocons.
And uh I think that they've caused quite a bit of problems for us with this war on terror.
And if it had it not been for our um interventionalist foreign policy, which is structured by Jews, we wouldn't have the problems that we have now with the Middle East.
I think that the only place I disagree with, and uh I think we agree on the fact that we shouldn't be fighting endless wars and stupid wars that don't benefit America's interests.
Agreed.
And I think we did get dragged into a war.
But the difference in what you believe and what I believe is that I don't think it's solely uh the responsibility of Zionists and responsibility of uh people from the Middle East or are Israel.
Um we have our own intelligence, we have our own military, and we have enough common sense to fight our own battles if we deem necessary.
We don't engage in every single war that comes up and every single war that is beneficial for Israel, right?
We're not fighting in Gaza, and we had limited capacity to fight in Iran.
We're not fighting Hezbollah, we're not fighting any of these other uh front wars that Israel is fighting currently.
We're not putting boots on the ground and doing any of that.
So we have strategic positions in those, and we're we're not uh ignorant.
And people act like somehow our military personnel don't have common sense.
You know, we fought that war in part for a benefit for America.
And I don't believe that it benefited uh America as much as the warmongers would have liked it to, but it was an American's decision to do that.
Israel didn't even help in the war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
They they didn't help in any of it.
They didn't have boots on the ground.
Yeah, and they're the ones that got intelligence.
Well, they shared intelligence with us, but they didn't fight in the war.
So in part bad intelligence.
I say bad intelligence, but at the end of the day, the onus is on our people.
Just because they come with intelligence, we don't verify intelligence, we don't make our own decisions.
I don't think that's a fair statement.
I think that they you could say that they've given us bad intelligence.
And if so, our government was responsible for taking those intelligence and running with it.
Our government was the one that spent hundreds of billions of dollars, trillions of dollars in a war, and we were there for 20 years.
We didn't ask Israel to help us whatsoever, other than intelligence.
So I think that we have to hold a bag on that.
Yeah, well, okay, fair enough.
Uh, members of our government made really bad decisions.
But let's ask, why did they make those bad decisions?
Because they're Jewish and they have an affinity and a desire to support Israel.
A lot of these neocons that I'm talking about from the Bush era in the early 2000s are Jewish, right?
Let's just be honest here that Jews have an affinity to the land of Israel, and that makes them have dual allegiance that creates inherent problems.
And um the and the the reality is that they've had this strategy since 1996, since Benjamin Netanyahu took uh office after Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated, which many suspect he was killed by a well, not even suspect, he was killed by our far-right Laqud Party member who people to this day, to include Yitzhak Rabin's widow believes he was the one that uh was behind him being assassinated because he struck the Oslo courts, which would have been the framework to a potential Tuesday solution.
So Netanyahu gets into power, and then a bunch of framers write the clean break memo in 1996.
And in that memo, it illustrates all the Middle Eastern countries that they want to take over.
Iraq was at the top of the list.
And then you fast forward to the year 2000, Peanut puts out a paper, Project for a New America.
In that paper, they say they're gonna have a Pearl Harbor-like event.
They would need that to institute some type of regime change.
And then bam, a year later, 9-11 happens.
We have Israeli fingerprints all over 9-11 from the people that were in the towers, from the people that did the insurance policy and owned the buildings to Israeli intelligence overseeing it and taking pictures and documenting it.
Art students that were in the country for multiple uh for multiple months or a year, and this is all factual.
This isn't even conspiracy theory.
But no, it's all this stuff that's there.
It is some of it is conspiracy, right?
It just is.
Let me just finish real quick.
Let me just finish real quick.
So you have all these fingerprints, right?
These Israeli fingerprints, and then next thing you know, after 9-11 happens, we're going to war in Iraq.
Where did that intel come from Iraq?
It came from, you know, them making the lie saying that Muhammad Atta, the lead hijacker, uh, went ahead and did uh met with an Iraqi intelligence official somewhere in Asia, and uh they passed anthrax to each other, and then Netanyahu came to the United States and said, hey, if we take Al-Saddam, there's gonna be positive reverberations all across the region, and then we went to war in Iraq and it didn't benefit us whatsoever.
It cost us, you know, trillions of dollars, millions of people died, soldiers died.
Um, and I think America got smarter and didn't do boots on the ground now because it would have been so heavily um, you know, disavowed.
But there's so many different things here where Israel creates problems.
Well, this is the thing.
If you want to say it was a joint venture that went south, then I wouldn't disagree with you that it was a joint venture.
But to blame Israel and blame the Jewish Jewish people or Jews for the entire scenario, I think is disingenuous.
The commander in chief all Jews.
I'm blaming the Jews in power that wrote this stuff.
The Jews are in the power in power.
But you you gotta understand, unless you are saying that George Bush had absolutely no um he had no fight in the game, or or he had no say in what we do in the military as the commander-in-chief of the United States military, you have to act as if somehow he don't have any say or he's not responsible whatsoever.
Well, that's almost a that's almost a obfuscating responsibility from the bad policy positions of our own government.
No, you're not gonna be able to do that.
So if you want to say in a in a joint venture, and there's two sides to think about it.
You could say in a joint venture in good faith, they acted and it was wrong, or you could say in a joint venture, they acted in something that's not in the best interest of America.
We're not in the business of doing regime change.
And our government was a part of that.
So I think we agree that Afghanistan was a catastrophe.
I think we agree that we shouldn't have been in Afghanistan and Iraq the way we had been.
And our government was wrong for that.
But to obfuscate responsibility and act as if it's just the Jewish leadership and the Jews or running America and the policies and all of their intel, we just take it face value with with no type of uh resistance whatsoever.
I just don't think that that's the case.
If you want to argue that Jewish influence had a part in it, of course it did.
Of course they were out of the world.
But that's a pro that's that's but that's that's precisely the problem.
You have American politicians that are Jewish that are putting the needs and uh the needs of a foreign country.
And of Americans.
No, there was every politician is not just Jewish.
No, well, I'm not saying every politician.
I'm talking specifically.
I'm saying you gotta say the entire Congress and of entire Congress that approve wars, let me especially in in the in both House and Senate.
Let me explain why.
Almost all the framers, all the people that are pro-war, right?
The people that were the decision makers, remember, uh let me say this too.
Bush was effectively asleep at the wheel with the whole war and the war on terror.
Bush was extremely inexperienced, incompetent.
It was Dick Cheney that was running everything.
And under Nick Dick Cheney.
Dick Cheney's not a Jew.
No, no, I know.
But everyone underneath him, right?
That were the framers of the war, right?
Were either hardcore Zionists or Jewish.
Okay.
Okay, so okay, let's make a difference there.
You are you are you saying that your argument is Zionism and Zionist?
Or are you saying that Jews are the problem?
It was it was both Jews and Zionists.
The ones that aren't Jews are super pro-hardcore Zionists.
So, but the reality is so we Yeah, but that's a problem.
I'm not sure.
I think the problem is that how is it a problem?
If you want to say that uh unwavering loyalty to Israel, um in a in a in a part that affects America negatively without any due diligence, that is a problem.
I agree with you.
But when you bring up Jews as if it's somehow uniquely Jews are involved in this or they lead, they're leading the charge here.
I disagree with you.
Now, if you say Zionists, that includes Americans who do not have necessarily a lineage from Judaism or a lineage from Israel.
They're just people who believe in Israel's existence.
To the detriment of the United States.
And that's the problem.
They put we got no benefits from the war on terror.
But what why why is it just isolated as the Jews?
Okay.
So see, and this is what everyone is kind of scared and everyone dancing around it.
I'm just gonna call it like it is.
The main architects and perpetrators of the wars in the Middle East are American Jews that have a dual allegiance to the United States.
Do they have Americans who are not Jews that are a Zionists that support them as well?
Of course.
But I think it's very important that we need to understand that at every single infrastructure in American society that has influence, whether it's big tech, the government, uh social media, uh finance, media, et cetera, it's controlled and run by Jews.
They have an enormous amount of influence in our country.
And the problem with that is that they have a dual allegiance.
When you have this dual allegiance, you're going to do things that might not necessarily put America first or give uh America um uh the benefit.
Now, I'll say this the war on terror was a monumental failure.
We we spent trillions of dollars on a war that didn't really benefit us, but who did it benefit?
It benefited Israel.
They've been able to destroy or destabilize or cuck each of their enemies in the Middle East if we've been paying the foot the bill for it.
That I I don't I disagree with you on that point.
Okay, let's talk about the uh the idea of Jews, right?
Jewish people and people who are Jews are not all the same.
And I'm not trying to say you're saying that, but it's coming across as that, right?
You have people who are ethnically Jew, you have people who are religiously Jew, and then you have Jews who are leftists and Marxists, and then you have Jews who are conservatives.
Sure.
And so when you say people who are leading these organizations happen to be Jews, of course they, some of them may be Jews, but that that's not as if being a Jew is a problem in and of itself.
Marxism is a problem.
Now, if people are leading the pushing Marxist agenda, who made Marxism?
Marxist Jews.
But it but see, here's the thing, man.
Sometimes we just gotta call it.
The Marxist Jews are a problem.
Can we agree to that?
Well, Marxism in itself is a problem, but that's a Jewish construct.
So is feminism.
If you say it's a Jew, it's a Jewish construct Jewish construct.
That's not uh uh Marxism isn't isn't exclusively for everybody that's a Jew.
No, but it was made by Jews.
Marxist Jews came up with the idea, so Marxists.
It's made by Jews.
It's made by Jews, Marxist Jews, Marxist Jews.
Karl Marx was a Jew.
Right.
Mark Jews that believe in Marxism.
That's like saying these ignorant black folks who vote a certain way that's destroying this country, somehow black folks created that.
No, it's these ignorant black folks that are creating that.
Fair black people are all nothing.
Let me say that the same.
Let me say this.
It's not all Jews, but damn near every time it's always Jews.
That's what I'm trying to say.
But the biggest threat to America is Jewish influence.
The biggest threat.
That is that I will say it right now.
Everyone else is too scared to say in the right wing.
The biggest threat we have in America is Jewish influence and subverting our government for their own agenda.
Dude, the Israeli government just procured TikTok, the biggest social media platform in the country.
Who?
Israel just procured TikTok.
Larry Ellison.
Israel just procured TikTok.
Who's the who's the biggest?
No, no, just because he's but who invested in TikTok as well as is is Jewish influence.
Well, you are you're talking about when China had it, or are you talking about right now?
No, no, no, China started it.
So, first of all, yeah, one of the biggest influences was China.
Yep.
It was a big problem in America when China ran in.
Investors in to uh uh TikTok aren't just Jewish investors.
There's Qatari investors as well.
There's people from the Middle East investing in TikTok as well.
They didn't secure TikTok as a as a Jewish uh the Jews procured TikTok.
That's not true.
Okay, let me let me summarize.
Uh Give me 60 seconds to quickly summarize the TikTok thing.
Back in 2020, they were talking about banning TikTok because it had way, it was collecting way too much information on American citizens.
They're thinking about getting rid of it.
They never got around to actually do it.
Fast forward, uh October 7th happens, and TikTok becomes incredibly pro-Palestine versus you know, 30% pro-Israel, about 70% pro-Palestine.
Jonathan Greenblack goes to Israel and talks to the Knesser, one of these government institutions, and says, hey, we have a problem in America.
The youth are being indoctrinated by TikTok.
They're seeing way more pro-Palestinian content.
We need to do something.
All the Jewish organizations in America, all across the West, got together and said, we need to rally against TikTok.
Trump comes into office, what does he do?
He gets TikTok down for about a day, and then he's able to get it back up.
You can't put the watermelon emoji, you can't put uh from the river to the sea, all that stuff is banned.
Fast forward even further, they're still not satisfied with how TikTok is being pro-Palestine.
Larry Elson acquires it.
Now all of a sudden, two days later, you can't type in APAC, you can't say America's run by uh Zionists, any of that stuff.
So they're effectively beginning a censorship regime as we speak.
This is this is this is this is this is all speculation and conspiracy.
Larry Ellison is a huge supporter of the IDF.
He's one of the biggest donors.
And he's a Jew as well.
Look at X. You know, X is the biggest anti-Semitic platform on planet Earth.
They're gonna send it to the city.
Why is it that case?
And Elon Musk is not an anti-Israeli person.
It's because it's a free speech platform.
Now, do people see that there's a problem with anti-Semitic rhetoric?
Yes, they do.
So if the person who procured TikTok wants to combat that, that's their own agenda.
You can't spew anti-Semitic things on any other platform except X. You can't do it on, you can't do it on YouTube, you can't do it on any other platform.
Now, just because this platform is associated with a Jew, don't necessarily mean it's some Jewish uh agenda for them to curate speech.
If this was the case, so it's just a coincidence that they acquired TikTok as uh Israel's uh trying to do a rebrand.
Netanyahu's doing a bunch of interviews, they're putting money into influencers.
They had a meeting in New York with a bunch of influencers literally two days ago, now they get TikTok.
You don't think that this is it's all just a coincidence?
No, you so you're telling me the entire existence of TikTok is framed around uh Jewish propaganda.
That you don't know, people on TikTok, billions of people all over the world that are on TikTok that have nothing to do with Israel.
That's not what I'm saying.
You don't care nothing about anti-Semitism.
So you're saying that the crux of this is somehow because of Israeli propaganda or because of anti-Semitism, that's not the case.
Let me let me let me explain.
TikTok was a threat to America that had nothing to do with Jews.
Okay, fair.
When TikTok was a threat to America because of Chinese spyware, we didn't get it banned.
It still exists.
Well, no, they brought that, they were in the process of banning it.
But they brought it up.
But they didn't know.
No, no, listen, they're not gonna ban it on, they banned it on government devices, so the government couldn't have TikTok on their devices way before anything else talked about anti-Semitism.
So our government already took proactive steps to ban TikTok in various forms.
Yeah, but they're trying to ban TikTok.
They were trying to, and they didn't do it, right?
They were they were talking about banning it back in 2020.
I remember you remember cool, and then they didn't get it done.
However, it wasn't until TikTok started becoming more pro-Palestine, and the Jewish lobby and Zionist group started complaining that they were able to get it banned.
So, in other words, American national security when it comes to Chinese counterintelligence is not as important as making the Zionist organizations happy and getting watermelons banned.
That's that's power.
Our national security doesn't matter what's Chinese, but when the Jews start complaining, it's like, oh no, we gotta we gotta get rid of this thing.
And then Larry Ellison went ahead and procured it like a couple of days ago.
I mean, it it is just too too perfectly uh, you know, it's not just a coincidence.
That's that's for you to say Larry Ellison is acting in in poor faith.
Like somehow he's he's a hardcore Zionist.
He's a hardcore Zionist.
If a business, like for instance, let's just say this.
If I had enough money to procure uh TikTok, because I ban anti-Semitism, because I don't believe in anti-Semitism, I think it's wrong.
Don't mean it's an entire conspiracy theory that I bought it just to curate the speech against Jews.
That's that's that's what they're doing.
They're literally already banning.
They've banned every Palestine platform they ban the watermelon, they banned from the river to the sea, they ban pro-Palestine content.
Every platform on earth, except X already bans anti-Semitism.
So it's not some phenomenon that an American company is gonna ban anti-Semitism.
Elon Musk is doing something different than just about everybody else, and this is why a lot of people use X. He has an open platform.
I know for a fact that Elon Musk is against anti-Semitism, but He is not gonna use that on his platform because he operates in free speech.
So you're saying that another American purchase platform that says that they don't want anti-Semitism on it is somehow a conspiracy.
No one in their right mind will only look at procuring a major multi-billion dollar company, trillion dollar company, just for the sake of curating speech around anti-Semitism.
That's not the case.
The platform is much bigger than just people talking about Israel and talking about Palestine.
This is a worldwide platform that people are on all over the world.
And and you're talking about the speech about Israel and Palestine is probably a very small percentage of what influencers and people who operate the platform is actually talking about or experiencing.
Because throughout the years, this wasn't even an issue until it became this war happened.
Then two years of the war created a lot of anti-Semitism.
And this is why people are addressing it in the first place.
Are you saying that Donald Trump and our government solely focused on anti-Semitism on this platform, forced the sale to an American company?
And they knew who would buy it.
No, what I am saying is that we did not give a shit about TikTok when we dealt with Chinese potential counterintelligence.
That's not true.
But as soon as October 7th happened, and Jonathan Greenblast starts complaining and saying, yo, we got a TikTok problem, and the Zionist lobbies and organizations got together and boycotted and said we need to do something about it.
Well, guess what?
TikTok got taken down for a day, got brought back up.
They banned a couple of phrases, and then it went, and then they said, okay, we're gonna go ahead and do some type of resolution in the meantime until someone gets it, and then once Larry Elson picked it up, now we're seeing censorship come in even more so on that.
So am I sitting here saying, oh, it's a grand government conspiracy?
Eh it might not go that far, but what I will definitely say is that the state of Israel is trying to do a rebrand right now, and they're hiring influencers, paying them $7,000 a month, $7,000 per post to put pro-Israel content.
We know that Netanyahu met with a bunch of influencers not too long ago when he was here in the United States.
We know that he's doing more interviews.
We know that Israel's trying to do a 180 because they know that they're about to go ahead and have a war with Iran and need they need public sentiment with that.
Also, the youth no longer support Israel.
So what would be better than to take control of the app that most of the youth in America utilizes and exercise extreme censorship with pro-Palestine stuff and put more pro-Israel uh propaganda out there?
And that's what they're currently doing right now.
And then here's another thing, too.
I'll be honest, Trump is cucked for Israel.
I mean, we have anti-Semitism bills on the books for that is uh deterring people's ability to have free speech.
How is it that someone that's an American?
Anti-Semitism wrong or not.
Here's the thing.
Being critical of Israel and bad behavior from Jewish people is uh if you people want to call it anti-Semitism, I call it just being honest.
That's not that's not anti-Semitism.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about anti-Semitism.
I'm talking about the deliberate hatred of Jewish people for the sake of them being Jews, the conspiracies and lies that are targeted against Jewish people, uh, assuming that all of them are the same, lies online about them committing genocide and and and operating in a city of the city of the city.
They're committing a genocide.
It is a part of it.
They're not committing a genocide.
What what what in the world make you think they're committing a genocide?
Um, every single human rights organization, all the scholars.
They've all come forward and said that this is a genocide, it's irrefutable.
Even even Israeli organizations, but sell them even identifying.
What's another genocide that has happened uh in modern history?
Uh let's name one.
Let's you want to go to Rwanda?
Yeah, sure.
We can go to Rwanda, Kosovo, whatever you where a million people were killed in a hundred days.
Did they give them food when they killed a million people in a hundred days?
Did they give them medical supply?
Did they give them medical aid?
Well, they give them resources that they send leaflets and let them know we're gonna uh take out this village.
They went through person by person, murdering them in cold blood, many of them not even having uh guns.
They were hack hacking people.
When you go to uh the Jews that were exterminated, pretty much over I don't know, half of the Jews that live in Europe were murdered and killed and gassed.
That's a genocide.
When you are operating in a war in urban warfare, and you're letting people know that we're gonna bomb a building and to evacuate, how do you justify saying that it's intentionally they're intentionally going after a group of people to commit a genocide?
Okay, so the thing with genocide is you don't have to have it written down and make it deliberate for it to be a genocide.
It's extur killing a group of people in whole or in part.
That's number one.
So by definition, it is a genocide.
Even Israeli human rights groups are coming out saying, yeah, this is a genocide.
Maybe in the beginning it was harder to make the argument.
Bro, this isn't even a war.
This is uh this is a woman.
It is a war.
What do you mean?
What do you mean it's a war?
It's not a war.
They have hostages.
They have hostages still.
They're still fighting the IDF.
They're still killing them.
They've lost plenty of soldiers in this war.
It's still a war.
It's it's it's not a war would assume that both parties uh have the ability to actually fight each other.
We're talking about somebody losing, don't mean it's not a war.
Well, it's not about here's the thing.
Okay.
This is a genetic, let's say a genocide, 100%.
You mentioned food.
There's a blockade.
They can't get food in since March they've they've been starving them, right?
Because the blockade ended in early or early March.
They've been starving them.
And then number two, uh, you saw the leaflets.
The whole leaflets thing, that's another scam.
What ends up happening is the Israelis will drop these leaflets.
Sometimes it doesn't get to the people.
Sometimes they drop it, and then the bombs are hitting as the leaflets are landing.
This assuming they're in the place saying, oh man, let me get this leaflet so I can be notified when I'm gonna get bombed.
Israel's bombing them indiscriminately and killing people.
We have 60%.
That's not true.
Where's your evidence at that they're bombing indiscriminately?
Gaza's totally gone.
90% of the infrastructure is gone.
But do you know that?
90% of the infrastructure's gone.
Do you know why some of the buildings have been taken down?
Sure.
That they could they can go ahead and say we know that there's terrorists there.
Hamas is there, they're hiding.
Not just terrorists, not just terrorists.
They have to give the authorization to do any of the strikes.
Terrorists are operating out of these buildings, or if they're booby trapped.
And we know, based on all the all of the information that's provided, they booby trapped these buildings and they're taking them down.
And it it think about this.
If they wanted to kill all these people, they could have done it a long time ago.
Why do they send leaflets in the first place?
To create it's some plausible deniability that they're not doing a genocide, but they are doing that.
You don't see a video, you you cannot find a video right now where you could post where they're sending leaflets and bombing at the same time.
I can show you at least three videos I can send you where they're showing them calling people and dropping leaflets.
I can show you a multitude of videos where people are actually filming buildings getting taken down.
How do they know the buildings are gonna get taken down?
I mean because they've been notified and they've evacuated.
Okay, here's the thing.
Show me a building where they're getting taken down with people in it.
Let's assume that the leaflets all land where they're supposed to go, everyone is getting it.
They're getting the taxes.
Let's assume that all of that is true.
It doesn't matter.
They're killing people and they're bombing indiscriminately, knowing that this is a densely populated area where they're not bombing indiscriminately.
They absolutely where do you see a video of them bombing a building with people in there?
I'll tell you how that I know that they're bombing.
Except for the hospital that was recently.
They're relying on a software from Palantir called Lavender.
This lavender software basically says, oh, we're gonna put this guy either in the uh kill, uh not kill, or whatever.
They they have like a weird little thing that they used to analyze or algorithm that used to analyze if they're gonna kill people.
They have something like a 15 to one ratio.
So, in other words, they're okay with killing 15 Palestinians for one terrorist, okay?
This is why 80s are the same.
That's not the war ratio that's even that's the 83% of the people that they've killed in Gaza are civilians.
83%.
This comes from their own stuff.
This comes from their own declassified military documents.
They've been killing innocent people all day.
We got 60,000, right, that we know have been killed.
We don't, that doesn't count for people.
According to who?
According to who?
That comes from the Hamas ministry, and Israel has actually accepted that number, right?
Yeah, that they're they because they're reasonable, they say, okay, it's way more than that.
It's it's like it's like 300K, easily.
How many people, how many people live in Gaza?
Two million, 2.3.
And you said 60,000 have been killed in a two-year war.
And majority of them are innocent, and there's more than 100%.
How many of them are combatants?
Not even 20K.
Not even.
No, who's who's giving that?
That's what Israel's given.
They're giving some somewhere between 15 and 20k, they're claiming are Hamas combatants.
So at minimum, off their own numbers, they've killed 40,000 innocent people.
But we know it's way more because there's people under the rubble, there's people that are missing.
There's people that got blown to smithereens that we don't even know where they are.
They could be combatants.
And they very well could be combatants.
How do you know if they're not combatants?
Brandon, 2.3 million people.
Hamas' fighting force is not it is not that big.
How do you know how big their force is?
Their fighting force is not that big.
Where do you they don't wear uniforms?
They don't have uh military bases.
How do you calculate how many people are Hamas?
How many people are they recruiting?
How do you know?
Regardless, here's the thing.
As they kill more people, yeah, I get it.
I get it.
As the as they kill more people, more people are becoming probably joining Hamas because they're killing innocent people every day.
But the point is this war going on.
They're not just bombing buildings with people in it.
Okay.
Just for no reason.
So let me ask you this.
Let's go to October 7th.
Let me use that same exact phrase that you did.
It's a war.
It's a war.
It's a war, Brandon.
They went in there, they kidnapped the 200 people, 1,200 people died.
It's a war, bro.
It's a war.
Would that be acceptable?
Look, look, this is what I say every time I go on campus.
I say, I I don't have a dog in a fight.
Well, when I say I don't have a dog in a fight, I'm not Israeli or I'm not Palestinian and I'm not there.
I'm an American.
Now, if I look at it and people are saying that it's an apartheid state and they're being they're committing genocide.
It isn't apartheid.
It's not an apartheid state.
That's the most ridiculous thing you could say, Myron.
That's the that's the most easiest.
That's the easiest point that I can disagree with you on very easily.
Well, we'll do the genocide that we can hit the apartheid after.
All right, we'll hit the apartheid state.
And that's the craziest thing ever.
We could.
But when you look at it, you say, okay, if they believe they're in an apartheid state, they believe that they're the uh Israel is committed genocide, then hey, go and fight.
They did, and if you accept that, then they're now losing.
So now you have to accept that.
If you go over into somebody's country and you start a war and you kill innocent people and you behead people and you take them hostage, and they come back and whoop you.
Why are you complaining about it?
You started a war, they finished the war.
No.
No, no, no.
Well, here's the thing.
This war has been going on since way before October 7th, is what I'm trying to say.
And the thing is that the Israelis would never accept if I said, Oh, yeah, bro, those 1,200 people that died on October 7th, that's just war, man.
It's just war.
It's like it's It's the difference between it's a difference between making strategic strikes against a country that initiated a war and have your people steal hostage.
And they're firing rockets into Israel all the time.
Okay, well, if we're gonna go ahead and use the Hotress thing, how many hostages does Israel have of Palestinians?
They got like 11,000.
And a lot of them were arrested without charge, they have no due process, they were just kidnapped because they're Palestinian.
And they're saying it's not a good thing.
That's not that's not that's not the truth.
They have 11,000 prisoners right now in Israeli prisons.
That don't mean they're all hostages, brother.
They arrested people for no reason.
A lot of them are there without charge.
No charge, no court case, no nothing.
They just picked them up and arrested them for no reason.
They just pick them for no reason.
They just wanna they where they go, the West Bank or Gaza to get these people.
There's a bunch of prisons all over all across the place.
Why is it not?
They're raping prisoners in there, they're doing all that.
Why is it not 50,000?
Why is it 11,000?
11,000 is too much in itself.
See, here's the thing.
This is what I want.
This is let's just deal with the elephant in the room, Brandon.
All right.
The reality is this.
That's what it is.
They don't care.
They don't value Palestinian life whatsoever.
How is that true?
And Israel is worth far more than a Palestinian life.
That's why they're they're kidnapping them, they're putting them in jails, they're raping them in the prisons.
People are protesting, saying, Oh, yeah, we have the we have the right to rape our our our our um uh our adversaries in war.
It doesn't matter.
People were literally protesting, saying that we have the right to rape Palestinian males in prison.
This is the kind of country that you're that we're dealing with here and getting ally out of the way.
Have you ever been?
Have you been to Israel?
Have you ever been to Israel, Myra?
No, I would never go.
They'd kill me.
Well, they'll kill you.
See, this is Myrra, you gotta understand that you you're saying something that's completely false and superfluous.
What would they kill you for in Israel?
I went to Israel, I was there for two weeks.
Did you know that Gazans and Palestinians work in Israel?
Yes, I do.
Over 100,000 Gazans of Palestinians before October 7th, they they worked in Israel.
You did you know when you say that it's an apartheid state, that's the most ridiculous claim ever because Arabs have a right to serve in a Knesset, they serve in the government, they're in the Supreme Court, there's only military.
How is it?
No, but they they do serve in the military.
Yeah, they do have rights.
After the after the war in 80 and 48, yeah, when when uh uh the war ended up happening, two million Arabs decided that they wanted to be um Israeli citizens.
So Arabs have free reign, they can do whatever they want to do in Israel.
That's not an apartheid state.
An apartheid state is racial discrimination.
That would mean only Jews are allowed to be in Israel.
Only Jews can serve in the Knesset.
Only Jews can serve in the military.
That's not true.
Okay, so here's why it's an apartheid state.
It's a Jewish state, which means it must have a majority Jew, uh Jewish population.
No, it's no.
There's no say that it's supposed to be a majority Jew.
It just so happened to be a Jewish state, therefore it's a majority of Jews there.
No, they have to maintain a majority.
This is a big reason why they will never do a one-state solution.
This is one of the biggest reasons why they won't let these Palestinians just come in and be a part of Israel and then end all this conflict because they need to maintain a Jewish majority because they claim to be a democracy, but the reality is they're occupying people illegally in the West Bank and in Gaza that have no rights.
They have no rights.
They don't want nothing to do with the Jews.
They hate the Jews.
Well, they've stolen their bomb the Jews.
They've stolen their land.
They did what land?
They stole their land.
How did they steal their land, Mike?
They kicked them out in 1948.
They didn't kick them out.
No, there was a there was a war.
Yeah.
They had a two-state solution in 1947 that Israel agreed to, and the Arabs denied, and then they they they had a uh a war against Israel and they lost.
Okay, and they were the ones that displaced millions of people.
They sent them to the West Bank and sent them away from the mainland in Israel because they thought they were gonna win, and then they lost.
Okay, they displaced their own people.
Okay, let's go through this real quick.
Number one, it is a genocide.
Every scholar has it's irrefutable.
It's a genocide.
Well, let's compare it to what genocide is in comparison.
It doesn't have to, you don't have to compare it to other genocides to say, oh, well, and I don't know if people die, so we're gonna call it a genocide.
This is a war.
No, it's it's a genocide.
Did America commit a genocide in Japan?
Well, here's the thing.
We weren't trying to kick them out of their land.
It's not their land, Myron.
Jews were there first.
Okay.
Um is that not true?
Hold on, let's go to the history.
Is that not true?
We're Jews there first.
Here's the thing the the the Jews have been there, but for them, but so have been the Canaanites and the Arabs have been there as well.
But they're just kicked them out.
Just say they both have a joint access or joint uh claim to the land.
It's not it's so it was not Palestinians' land, it's both of their land.
See, here's the thing.
Then we're gonna get into the diaspora and then how Jews are the you know, because the the Jews that are there today are not the same Jews that you're thinking about that were there during biblical.
No, but many of them were many of many of them.
The Jews that the majority of the Jews that are there now are Ashkenazi Jews who are European Jews.
Ashkenazi Jews are the majority of in Israel, they're by far the majority.
That is not true.
Or the European issue.
That is not true that they don't have uh a DNA lineage to the land of Israel, and therefore their ancestors were there.
Ashkenazis know.
But let me let me just it's a proven fact.
There's peer review research that shows that Ashkenazi Jews have a bloodline directly to the bloodline of Abraham.
Okay.
I wrote an article about this.
Okay.
So let's go, let's go to the um we're talking about so you could say you don't think it's a genocide.
Every scholar says it's a genocide.
I think it's irrefutable.
If you look at the definition, it's absolutely genocide because it's a good idea.
They're not intentionally killing people and displacing people, no reason.
They're trying to do an ethnic cleansing right now.
That's why they've destroyed Gaza and they're trying to get these guys out.
Yes, they're trying to do that.
Why are they not going to West Bank then?
Well, that here's the thing.
They got the war that they needed on October 7th to go ahead and take over Gaza.
They're actually going to try to displace those people and get them out of there.
That's why they're destroying all the infrastructure so they can make it inhabitable so that they can say, Hey, look, man, it sucks.
You might as well go to one of your Arab countries uh on the side here.
So that's Did you not?
Did you not read the peace deal that Donald Trump uh and Netanyahu agreed to?
That peace deal.
And then what the Netanyahu do the next day, he did a he did another interview in Hebrew saying, Oh, yeah, this is just diplomacy, uh, feigning diplomacy.
He said in Hebrew that no, but but the agreement is agreement.
I don't care what he say.
They had an agreement on the books that he signed off of, other Arab nations signed off on, and that was the rebuilding, the commitment to rebuild Gaza.
They will exit Gaza, and they will, and there was a commitment to many countries.
They're not gonna exit Gaza.
They're gonna just they're just gonna move, they're gonna move the, they're gonna move back a bit, but they're not gonna exit Gaza, they're not gonna exit it.
They were completely exit Gaza.
They're not gonna completely exit.
They have security control over Gaza the land, but they're not gonna be occupying in Gaza.
That was an agreement that they made.
They're still going to be in Gaza.
They said that they would pull back a little bit, but no, they didn't.
All right, let's they will completely withdraw from Gaza.
Okay.
So they said in the agreement.
Let's go to apartheid, and then we could go into this agreement.
Okay, a part time.
The reason why the reason we both know the definition of part, correct?
Yes.
And the reason why I said it's an apartheid because Israel occupies the West Bank.
They also occupy Gaza.
These people have no rights, they have no representation, they can't vote, they can't do anything.
That's not true.
The people in Gaza vote.
The people in the West Bank.
People in Gaza voted for Hamas.
They can't vote in Israel, but they vote for the they vote for what's in their own territory.
But they have no sovereignty.
Voted for Hamas.
They have no sovereignty at all.
They have they don't control their airspace, they don't control their internet, they don't control their water.
How do you think Israel's able to starve them right now?
The fact that Israel's able to disblockade and starve them proves that they have no sovereignty.
Myron, how are they getting water right now?
From Israel.
Okay.
Israel controls everything.
They're not trying to kill, they're not killing these people.
They're giving them water, they're giving them medical supply, and they're giving them food.
And they're still dying of starvation.
They're not they're not.
Because how many of you have died from starvation?
Thousands.
No, no, give me a lot of.
Thousands.
Thousands.
We don't know because so many people have been dying.
We got 60,000 right now, right?
We got 60,000.
When this war is done and the fog of war is gone, and we're able to actually recount everything and go through the rubble and everything, it's gonna be hundreds of thousands.
It's gonna be hundreds of.
That's fine.
If you say hundreds of thousands, okay, there's two million people that live there.
Two, three, yep.
And you say the starvation, they have given hundreds, hundreds of thousands of tons of food over this two year war.
Because there was a that doesn't mean that the food gets in.
No, no, yeah, because and according to the UN.
Because they're not letting it in.
No, according to the UN, 96% of all the the aid is getting looted.
And this is the reason why Israel and it created a bottleneck because they did not want Hamas controlling the food and the UN disagreed and so they created another supply chain with the United States of America and they they created avenues in which they can get the food in an equitable way without it getting looted.
And this is what they did.
This is why they're still eating you can go see pallets and pallets of food that are not in Gaza border that they're that they hadn't beginning outside because of the UN.
No, because Israel will not allow them to get in to bring in the food aid workers you know how many aid workers have been killed by Israel?
Israel's killed journalists they've killed aid workers to include American citizens there's no kill paramedics there is no there's no legitimate evidence of them killing aid workers.
However there are evidence of them killing journalists in strategic strikes and and somebody were a part of the paramedics they killed 20 they they they killed 20 paramedics and gave them a shallow grave and then lied about it saying that they didn't have their mercy lights on.
The New York Times wrote a whole thing about this showing that they did have their mercy lights on and they were clearly wearing markers and then they've the food a couple of different countries sent in uh aid workers to bring in food from uh like unit United kitchen etc and they bomb and kill them Australians Americans canadians bomb and kill them they they argued that there was a mistake and they owned up to it they said they did and they said it was a mistake.
Oh it's a mistake like that this is unacceptable if they wanted to kill if they want to kill hundreds of thousands of people they can do it.
So clearly they're not doing that.
Yeah because obviously if they want to starve them they could starve them and cut off their water supply and they'd be dead in the first I don't know eight months why are they not doing that Myron if they want to commit a genocide and they're trying to kill all these people because you can't be as obvious about it.
The goal is to make it so bad.
They're obvious according to you the goal according to you the goal here is this this is the goal.
The goal is to make it so bad and uninhabitable that they have no choice but to leave the land so that Israel can go ahead and colonize that part as well.
That's what the goal is Israel Israel already have control militarily surrounding the land of Gaza they already have they already have control over the airspace in the sea.
So it's not something new that they're trying to invent they tried to give them they withdrew they pulled up the graves of Jews from Gaza they forced Jews out the idea forced Jews out against their will to vacate Gaza put to the Palestinians that was a political play they did that so that they can expand the West forced people they still forced people out.
They they did that so they can expand the West bank that's why they did that they did that as a political like you know fake out so that they could continue to expand on the West bank because that's where they actually want to focus on putting a lot of the the illegal which those settlements by the way in West Bank are 100% illegal not no they're not 100% illegal that's not true.
The entire market community has condemned it and said it's illegal they're they're 100% illegal I have an inkling that you may not understand what the West Bank actually looks like.
No I know what it looks like it's it's uh disconjointed right land right that isn't contiguous for the Palestinians and they did that on purpose by the way with all of their different partition plans that they've had and we can talk true that's a the there's there's roads there that Palestinians can't even use and they've strategically cut the West bank up in a way where it makes it extremely difficult for Palestinians to have any type of ability to do trade to have any type of sovereignty etc.
They did this on purpose so that it's go ahead I I disagree with you but if they did it on purpose then so what?
settlements are illegal.
No, it's not illegal.
Yes, they are.
Because when they had the Oslo Accords, and we've had these different, when they've had these different agreements, the agreement was, hey, look, we're going to go ahead and work on, the Oslo Accords was supposed to be a framework for a two-state solution, right?
And that was contingent upon them coming and revisiting and having something, you know, making agreements to create some type of two-state solution.
During this time, they aggressively went ahead and killed building and the West Bank because the Israelis practiced something called facts on the ground.
And what that basically means is, oh, we're going to go ahead and have this you know loose framework that we're gonna operate under but like we'll come back and revisit it in a year in two years and what they do is is they aggressively bulldoze houses build settlements make it bigger so that when they do come back to negotiating table they're like oh yeah by the way you know we've kind of expanded a bit you know the facts on the ground are a bit different you're gonna get this amount of land now and the thing is that no one can challenge them because they got the U.S. backing them they have a superior military they have superior they have airspace they have control Of everything.
So no one can really hold them to anything because they could do what they want because they have have American backing.
Well, let's put it in perspective.
Um, they're not occupying the West Bank territory that the that the uh Palestinians are in, they're occupying territory that's not.
Because they stole it from the Palestinians originally.
There's no stolen from anybody.
Why did why are you saying they stole something from the people?
Bro, they didn't steal.
You don't have when when the British can mandate that Jewish people come back to the land when the British can mandate it, that means that the Palestinians didn't own the land to start with because there was the British mandate the Jews came back.
The Jews came back.
If you look at historical documentation, the Jews came back and they purchased land legally.
They purchased land from the Arabs, they purchased land from the Palestinians legally.
And then the Palestinians didn't want them there.
Sure, let's talk about that.
Hold on, we'll we'll get to that, but let's compare it's the same comparison.
Why don't people think the same thing about America and the Native Americans?
People can argue that it was their land, but at some point, when you fight a battle and you lose, you're subject to the to the conquest of the country they won.
Sure.
Or the or whatever leadership they want.
Well, we did it to the natives, and and uh the Israelis have done it to the Palestinians.
Here's the difference.
What do they owe them?
Native Americans get their own land, they get a nice little stipend check.
They're American citizens, they have full rights, they can do whatever they want in America.
Yes, it is terrible what what Americans did to them and colonized them, but they at least have citizenship.
It's not an apartheid, they have the ability to do whatever they want, and they get a nice little check just for being Native American.
That's why a lot of them are alcoholics.
That's a whole other conversation.
But let's go ahead and talk about because we were talking about the war, right?
In 1948 before that.
But wait a minute, wait a minute.
Because you said that they brought the bought the land, right?
Yeah, let's not jump there because it's a good idea.
Israel's g Israel gives a lot of uh benefits to Palestinians as well.
They work and they're able to do commerce in Israel.
A minority.
It's not a minority, it's hundreds of thousands of them.
It's two million, and they and the is the majority of Israelis are Jews.
That's why it's called the Jewish state.
But then you have millions in the West Bank and in Gaza that have no rights.
But and they're having a lot of people.
They have no rights to Israel, they have rights in their own.
But they're being occupied by Israel.
They're not being occupied.
The entire international community, Brandon, everyone knows that Israel is occupying Gaza, they're occupying Gaza and they're occupying the West Bank.
This is the same thing.
How do you occupy a place?
How you occupy a place that you you won in the in the battle.
They had multiple wars that they won.
How are you gonna say after you win after Israel wins a war that they're not entitled to everything else everybody else get when they win a war?
They win the wars.
They the lot we could talk.
You know what?
Yam Kippur was what?
Like yesterday?
The Yom Kippur war back in the 1970s, they only won that one because they flexed nuclear weapons that they stole from us.
Did they win or did they not win?
We had to do a huge airlift to save them.
They're we're gonna lose the world.
When we win a war and we begin to take over the land, there's nobody that argue that somehow the land don't belong to us and we are wrong for doing whatever we do with the land that we that we occupy now that we won a war.
If Palestinians would have won the war and they occupied the land against Jews, nobody would be crying about it.
You fought a war, they lost the war.
Israel can do whatever they want to do with the land.
They could they could push these people out of the land if they wanted to, but they're generous and reasonable enough to give them many of the many of the holy sites that they got in Judea and Samaria, they have a portion of the old city of Jerusalem, and they have their own government system that they voted for and elected who have robbed them blind, and then they elected a Hamas in Gaza.
I'm glad that Israel is not stupid enough to allow these people to completely run the sea and airspace and everything, because Israel would not exist if Hamas could run and have access to air strikes.
They shot 4,000 missiles into Israel after October the 7th.
And the only reason that they didn't kill everybody because they got the iron dome.
And how many missiles does Israel, how many bombs does Israel drop on on Gaza in the past year?
Thousands.
It's many, as many as they need to.
So here's see, see how when it's when it's Israel doing the attacking?
Oh, yeah, they're doing what they got to do, etc.
But then if I say, well, yeah, they're gonna retaliate, oh well, no, they're terrorists.
Like, here's the.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, first of all, you gotta look at the charter of Hamas, they're a terrorist group.
They're designated by a terrorist group in the United States.
Who designated them as a terrorist group?
We we designate them as a terrorist group.
Yeah, but but you know who did that?
Well, well, maybe when they cut people's heads off, then maybe they'd be an indication that they're a terrorist group.
Okay, Israel was created through terrorism.
The uh the the IDF used to be the Urgun Haganah and Stern Gang, those are terrorist organizations.
The thing is this the person that designated Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist organizations was a Jewish.
Do you think the terrorist organization or not?
Here's the thing.
We're gonna go off the definition of terrorism, right?
We're gonna go off.
Hey, come on.
No, sure.
We can have this discussion.
The definition of terrorism is committing acts of violence and furtherance of political agenda, correct?
Yeah.
Would that be fair to say that's how the FBI defines it?
Cool.
Yeah.
If we're gonna call a master terrorist organization, so is the IDF.
That's my position.
How is the idea of a terrorist organization when they're literally a defense force for a democracy defending their people?
They're not going out and actively committing terror against people to push a political agenda.
They literally are.
They literally are.
Show me a video.
Well, give me an example.
The state of Israel was created through terrorism.
Yes, yes.
Before the IDF was a thing, because they rebranded.
There used to be the Urgun, Haganah, and Stern Gang.
These three organizations were paramilitary Zionist groups that were terrorist organizations that killed, that killed British, British people, they killed Palestinians.
This is why the Palestinians didn't want to agree to the partition plan that you're talking about in 1947.
Because that peace deal that you're talking about, we could go through it.
Because you said that the Jews bought the land.
That's a lie.
Back in 1927, no, no, no.
They didn't buy any land.
They stole it.
I'm not talking about the state of Israel.
The state of Israel, the mandate from the British mandate, allowed them to own and occupy certain areas.
But what I'm saying is that when they got there, they didn't force Arab people out.
They bought land legally.
That's how they begin to expand.
Sure.
They begin to give me a lot of people.
You know how much land they owned?
Commerce and all of this.
You know how much they begin to.
Well, you know how much and they loaned?
The land they owned at that point?
6.6%.
That's how much they owned in 1947.
That's how much land they actually owned.
So of course, the Palestinians are gonna be like, okay, at that time, the Zionists were about 30% of the population, maybe less than that.
They owned only 6% of the land.
Uh they were, and they wanted 56% of the land when they had that 47 partition plan.
Of course the Palestinians aren't gonna agree to that.
And then on top of that, they wanted all the fertile land that had the best soil with the best waterways, etc.
So the Palestinians were like, fuck no, we're not gonna go ahead and let you guys have 56% of the land, even though you guys are 30% of the population, you guys only own 6%.
So no one would agree to that.
No, no, our fertile land is not true.
Not our fertile land is not true.
The majority of the fertile land, the majority of the fertile land was in the 56%.
Was in the 56%.
They purchased and negotiated swamp land that the that the Arabs never want anything to do with it.
And when you go to Israel today, you can see the land that they purchased and they beautiful.
It was only 6%.
It was only 6%.
That's fine.
So they they disagree.
But they wanted 56% of the land.
They only owned six legally, and they wanted 56%.
The first partition, the first partition was going to give the Arabs and Palestinians 75% of the land, and Jews will only have 60% of the land.
40%.
40%.
16%.
They disagree with that.
1947 was going to be the land partition that you're talking about.
They disagree with that.
Then they went to war with it.
You're talking about the peel commission.
Okay, let's talk about the peel commission.
1937.
Ben Gurion is the one that uh uh was the architect of that one.
Ben Gurion admitted when he was going through and doing the whole peel commission, because yes, you're right.
The Israelis were gonna take roughly 20% of the land.
That was a lie.
The only reason he agreed to do the uh the peel commission was so that Israel and the colonial uh colonists can be have some type of international credibility with trying to make peace.
And then in 1947, they went ahead and they asked for 56% of the land.
So you can see here that they're slowly encroaching and asking for more land, despite the fact that they don't own the land and they're only a minority.
And how do I know this?
They don't need one of them.
No, no, no, hold on.
Neither one of them owned the land at this time.
Ben Gurion, Ben Gurion, neither one owned the land.
Ben Gurion admitted to his son in his memoirs, October 5th, 1937, he admitted this.
We are only doing this, we're feigning diplomacy, something like Nanyaho's doing now.
We're feigning diplomacy.
We are gonna take all this land for us.
So the goal was never to live peacefully next to the Arabs, it was supposed to take all the land.
And this is the first prime minister of Israel.
You you could say that, but the goal first of all, they don't own the himself.
The Palestinians didn't own the land either.
Well, you act like they own the land and they had a Palestinian state.
They were there.
They're the indigenous people.
Jews were there, but there were Jews there simultaneously with Palestinians the entire time that Israel has been a thing, period.
Okay, way back from Jesus' day.
So the the the Jews never ceased to exist in in Israel.
They just became a minority.
And then now they're the majority again.
But they never ceased to exist.
Neither you can't say that the Palestinians somehow own the land or had rights to the land.
There would be no British mandate if that was the case.
And then also, how do they get exclusivity?
They didn't have a government system.
There was no, there was no State called Palestine.
So you have you have a group of people that come in under a British mandate.
These people had their part, these people had their part to negotiate a peace deal.
In fairness, they had to partition.
The Jews and the and the uh Israelis or whatever you call them, they wouldn't be Israelis at that point.
They agreed.
The Arabs denied it.
Okay.
1946.
Which deal are you talking about when they denied it?
Arabs denied it.
Which deal are you talking about?
They denied.
1947.
We'll go with that one.
Okay, they denied it for good reason.
I explained it.
You say that's good reason.
I don't think it's good reason.
That's that's subjective.
Okay, Brandon.
If somebody came into your house and broke in, right?
And then took and then told you, right?
They broke in your house and they said.
They didn't break in.
What do you mean?
Nobody broke in anywhere.
Okay.
They again, I'm just using the analogy here.
If someone came to your house, we break it in my house.
Okay, they take 50%.
They say, yo, we're gonna be hanging out here now.
They take 56% of your house.
Would you agree to that?
Well, look, let me say this.
Okay, my favorite.
If I don't own, let's say I didn't own a house.
And let's say I was uh leasing a house.
Okay, it's still your president.
Not even not even leasing.
I had a at a at a floating lease or something.
No, no real documentation of the.
Let's say you're renting it.
That's fine.
But someone comes in and tries to tell you, oh, you know what?
No, they don't come in.
They don't come in.
The homeowner tells me that, okay, we're gonna cut to split this house up.
You're not even, you know, you're not even occupying the majority of this side of the house.
We're gonna give that to somebody else.
You stay over here, they stay over here.
Let's have an agreement.
I don't own the house.
Here's the thing.
What am I gonna act like there was never any peaceful agreement because the Israelis were the the Zionists, the the colonial, the the colonists were using violence the entire time.
They were using it weren't using violence.
They were using terrorism.
There's no violence the entire time.
Okay, so these or these the British mandate was not violent.
They were killing the Brits too.
The Zionists were the king bombing of the uh the King David Hotel, they bombed it, they killed like a hundred people.
You're saying you talk about what the state of Israel is spreading through tyranny.
You're talking about one isolated incident, but you're not talking about any of the Arab incidents where they were killing Jews and they were doing all these uh um uh uh I forget the name of the battles that they would do.
They would come and kill Jews and they will kill people.
But they were killing them.
They came into the here's the thing.
The Palestinians were there first, right?
They were there, and then what do you mean?
And then the Valford declaration.
No, no, Myron, Myra, you gotta you gotta clear it up.
You said they were there first.
What does that mean?
Okay, Jews were there as well as the Palestinians.
Okay, the Jews that you're talking about, Mizrahi Jews, aka Arab Jews that are actually from that region, they were not the same Jews that we're talking about that occupy and run Israel now, which are Ashkenazi Jews from Ukraine, Russia, Poland.
Nanya who's Polish, okay?
Goldenmeyer, we're Ukrainian.
Men I can begin, Ukrainian.
These people don't have ties to the land like that.
They do have ties to the land.
No, they don't.
If you look at their, there's there's a reason why DNA tests are heavily regulated in Israel, okay?
These people don't have ties to that land.
The the Jews that you're thinking about, the biblical Jews are not the same Jews of today, okay?
That is a Hasbarra lie that they use to try to try to tie themselves to the land and say, oh no, look, we're all Jews, we all have Jewish blood, etc.
But there's different types of Jews.
There's so many different types of people.
It's not true.
There's different types of Jews, but the Ashkenazi Jews and the Jews that were there have different uh percentages of blood connection to the seed of Abraham, but they're all Jews.
Just because they um were I say forced out of the region at some point and they end up race mixing and coming back to the land, don't mean they're have no lineage to the land.
That's that's not true.
Here's a here's the thing and they're not taking DNA, etc.
The Palestinians are the indigenous people to that region.
No, no, but uh the Jews that were there are indigenous too.
The Jews that were there alongside the Palestinians this entire time.
Yes, some of them Israeli Jews, the Arab Jews that are from the Levant, yes, but the Jews that we're talking about today, the modern Jews, the the white looking guys, these Ashkenazis, they're not from that region.
They are they have a bloodline lineage from the region.
Just because they just because they they were born in Poland and other places, that mean that they don't have connection to the bloodline in the region.
Here's the other thing, too.
You want to know here uh this is gonna debunk your entire argument.
The guy that the father of Zionism, Theodore Hertzl, did you know that he wanted to go to Argentina first?
The only reason he picked Israel, which by the way, this guy is secular, he was an atheist, just like Ben Gurry, and I find that interesting that atheists say that God promised them that land, but they don't believe in God.
It's another Hasbaro lie.
Theodore Hertzl, he originally wanted to go to Argentina, but then he only said, you know what, let's go to Palestine because it's gonna be easier to sell for a Zionist project.
That's a dirty secret that they don't want to tell.
But but you but you say that, but it's funny that you say that because you can you can you can peddle that on one side, you can say that a legitimate argument, but it's also biblical that the people of Israel will be brought back to the land of Israel.
But what I'm biblical.
So it's a biblical it's also a biblical prophetic reality, and Zionists believe in that biblical reality.
And that drip that was a driving force behind the support from America.
That is exactly American Jews.
And that is exactly why I'm telling you, it's all a bunch of BS because the founder of Zionism and the first prime minister, Ben Gurion, were both atheists.
Theodore Hertz, just because you atheists don't mean you don't acknowledge just because you atheists don't mean that.
But you don't believe in God's reality.
You don't believe it.
They don't know.
They don't have to believe in guys to understand the validity of what people are trying to convince them to do or trying to partner with them to do.
Okay.
You don't have to believe in God to understand what the Bible says was.
Do you not find it crazy that the guy who said we're gonna go to the first he said we're gonna go to Argentina?
Then they say, you know what?
Nah, for me to sell this Zionist project, it's gonna be better if I say we're gonna go to Palestine because we have biblical ties to it, and it's gonna be an easier sell.
And I will be able to get more people to come and join us over here.
You don't think that that's problematic and that defeats the whole purpose of being biblical or doing it for religion purposes?
If you want to say that atheists, if you say that if you say that everything the secular atheist is doing is acting in poor faith, then maybe you have a point.
But I don't know that man.
I don't know his motives.
I don't know exactly what what his what his motives or what he was thinking about when he did it.
But there is a lot of people who are not.
He wants to colonize a land, is what he wanted to do.
There's a reason there's reasonableness to believing that what are we gonna do with all these Jewish people?
Here, here is a land.
The British mandated that they can return back to the land of origin.
And that's what they did.
Well, and they went in waves.
They didn't just all come back a million people at one time, they came back 15,000, 30,000, 60,000.
And what was happening was as they begin to come back to the land, they begin to buy up land, they begin to get the five.
They only own six percent, they stole the land.
They were killing the Palestinians and pushing them out of their villages.
There is no, there is no, there is no war that you can point to that's that's historically documented that they stole large swaths of land due to war.
These people did not have a military sit-up initially.
They did.
But they're not gonna be able to do that when they first when they first came.
Yes, you had the Urguns.
They did not have a military sit up.
Yes, they had paramilitary Zionist organizations called the Urgun, Haganah, Stern gangs, these gangs terrorized and killed Palestinians, pushed them out of their villages, and this is how they were able to take over, and this is how the knock was created.
Yes, created through terrorism.
These were battles, these weren't wars, these weren't large swaths of Arabs being taken over.
These were small battles of small territory.
When you talk about these these wars that you're mentioning, that this wasn't large swaths of displacement of Arab people.
That's not true.
So then, and they said 750,000 people didn't just leave, or didn't it get just get kicked out of their homes?
No, no, they didn't happen.
No, no, no, it did not happen that way.
1940, in the in the war in 1948, there was a displacement of the Arabs to their own people because they went to war and they told their people to vacate the area, and that after they won, they would bring them all back to occupy everywhere the Jews occupied.
What happened was they lost.
So they couldn't bring the people back like they had promised.
This is all historical documentation.
And when they lost, the Jewish people kept the land and then they begin to set up boundaries.
If they had remained in the land, unlike what their uh leaders had told them to do, displacing 700,000 people, then we wouldn't have this problem in the first place.
They displaced their own people.
This wasn't something that was done by the Israelis or the Jewish people.
So they didn't just like happen.
The Darius Massacre didn't happen, all these murders of Palestinians and destroying these.
How many people died in that massacre?
Uh, a lot.
Somewhere between No, it wasn't.
It wasn't a lot.
If you look at, if you look at the history of the massacres that had happened on both sides, you can look it up.
You can do it live.
The massacres that have happened on both sides, majority of them were Arab-led massacres against Jews.
Now there were, I think, on record, maybe one or two massacres that occurred from the Jewish against the Palestinians.
The death toll maximum, I think in any one of those, about 2,000 people.
Well, either way, 57%.
These were small incursions at times over a large period of time, mostly initiated by Arabs.
So this is not some large 700,000 displacement wars they were going on.
That didn't happen.
Okay, again.
If you got a colonial project coming in, taking your land, kicking you out of your villages, taking your resources, literally having labor unions, not allowing you to sell your fruit, not allowing you to sell your uh your goods, right?
And they're taking up the land as they do this, of course there's gonna be violence.
Of course there's a lot of people.
I don't disagree with you.
And they and they came in and they and then obviously these partition plans with the peel commission, they didn't negotiate in good faith.
Then you go to the 47 partition plan.
They wanted 56% of the land despite being less than one third of the population, wanting all the good, fertile land.
They never negotiate in good faith.
So of course the Palestinians are gonna go ahead and reject the peace plans.
And here's the thing, right?
I know what you're saying.
Hey, Mida's right, fine.
Let's go ahead and go with Midas right.
Here's the problem.
Israel's never, ever, ever gonna get peace until they give the Palestinians a state.
The Arab brother's not gonna recognize them, we're gonna have always have problems there.
Now, here's my biggest issue with all of this.
They don't want to stay.
I don't want to support Israel and give them money so they can do a genocide in her name.
Because my biggest problem is that we give these dickheads the money and the influence and the power for them to do this stuff.
They're not committing to genocide, Myron.
They are doing that.
They don't want peace.
Can you admit that that Palestinians don't want peace with Jews?
You just are no.
Let me finish.
You just articulated a very good reason why Palestinians never want peace with Jews.
You're saying that they stole their land from the very beginning.
Yep, all these massacres happened and they killed them.
Why then are you saying a two-state solution would be somewhat of a objective for Palestinian people when you explain an entire history of what you call an apartheid state a genocide?
It is and then you claim that they want a two-state solution.
Why would they want a two-state solution if what you're saying previously is true?
They never want a two-state solution.
They don't want to identify or accept a two-state solution.
They don't want to Palestinians don't want a two-state solution.
So here's the thing.
Every two-state solution proposed was agreed to, or are the uh Israelis agreed to them.
Everyone.
That's not true.
Well, let's go ahead and okay.
So let's go.
The Oslo courts.
The Oswald courts was the actual was the actual only uh deal that was probably gonna have a framework to actually create a two-state solution.
So Yasser Arafat actually conceded and he conceded a couple of things that were huge that other Palestinians and other Arab nations didn't even want to do.
He recognized Israel's rights exist, he denounced violence, and he said that they deserve to live in peace and security.
That was a big step.
And all he got in exchange was the Palestinian authority being recognized by the Israeli government.
That was supposed to be the framework for them to go ahead and create a two-state solution in the future.
Guess what happened?
Yitzhak Rabin gets assassinated like a couple of months later, a year later, by a far-right Laqud Party member.
And who takes power?
Benjamin Nanyahu.
Once Benjamin Danyahu takes power, he's been caught on video saying, Oh, yeah, I sabotage all the Oslo Accords.
They're never gonna have a two-state solution.
Where is it?
Where's that video at?
He's in the West Bank, right?
No, no, show me the video and I believe you, bro.
Okay, let me get the link right now.
I've never seen that video.
He he today, just the other day, he in good faith, he agreed to a peace agreement.
We have we have five.
And then the day five two-state solutions.
And then the next day he did a broadcast in Hebrew saying, like, hey, I'm just feigning diplomacy.
If you you can say whatever you want, but the agreement is the agreement that he signed off on, and other Arab nations signed off on the same agreement.
So he can say whatever you want.
He signed the agreement.
Well, here's the thing.
The agreement also doesn't have anything really in in stone.
It just says, oh, yeah, we're gonna work towards uh Palestinians right a right of uh self-determination.
We're gonna work towards it.
The Israelis always use this language.
This language said, Myron, it says specifically if they give up their arms, they have asylum.
They they allowing, which is I think is insane.
They're allowing Hamas soldiers to have asylum in Gaza if they give up their arms, they give back the hostages, and then they agreed that ADF would withdraw.
And they have a phase-by-faith withdrawal that they agreed to.
Okay.
And they said that they would give back a thousand prisoners or something to Gaza.
They would they would hand them over.
It's all a part of the agreement.
We signed off on it.
Israel signed off on it, other Arab nations signed off on it as an agreement that we will all come together and help rebuild Gaza, which I don't want to do, which I think that uh Israel would want to do.
But that was a part of the agreement that Netanyahu signed off on.
There was five two-state solutions that were proposed.
Uh uh, subjectively, you could say it never was in the proper favor.
But show me a proposal that they were willing to accept ever.
So you don't want to Because here's the thing.
What Hamas wants is a permanent withdrawal of the IDF, right, to leave and end the ceasefire and the ceasefire permanently, like have a permanent ceasefire.
The Israelis are.
They do give they don't care.
The leader of Hamas said we would never surrender.
No, no, no.
They say Hamas is a part of the fabric of society.
No, no, no.
In Gaza, they said they'll never surrender as in like they're not gonna stop fighting for sovereignty.
But what they're saying is Hamas is a part of society.
I watched the interview.
He literally said we would step down as the as the leadership.
We're fine.
No, no, you are you that you're saying that he didn't say that Hamas is a part of the fabric of society in Gaza.
He's talking about Palestinians and the Palestinian culture.
But what he means by that is yes, we will step down politically, right?
But they want a permanent ceasefire, right?
And then a withdrawal of the IDF.
But the Israelis don't want to do that.
They want to continue to be able to do that.
That's what they agree to that.
No, they're not they're not pulling out.
They're not, they're not actually withdrawing.
They're just pulling back the uh troops, but they're not actually leaving the Gaza Strip.
They're gonna stay in there and still occupy it.
And then here's the other thing, too.
The Israelis can't be trusted.
Dude, the Israelis bombed Qatar two weeks ago.
You can't trust these guys.
Um America, uh, did America approve that?
Yes, they did.
They told them as they were doing it.
And this is what I'm trying to say.
This is what I'm trying to say.
America tells Netanyahu, America tells Netanyahu, turn them jets around when they were headed to Iran and land them.
And what did Netanyahu do?
He did exactly what Trump told him to do.
He told Netanyahu, apologize for bombing in Dohan.
And Ned Yahoo apologized for bombing in Dohan.
He shouldn't even have done it.
Like that's what I'm trying to say.
They should be listening to everything we have the biggest military base there, right?
They went ahead and they did a sneak attack trying to kill the Hamas leadership.
They failed, made us look stupid, create a whole bunch of problems on the Gulf.
Now Qatar, and they're the middleman.
They're the ones that are supposed to negotiate this stuff.
Qatar is not a friend.
Qatar is not a middleman.
They're not a true middleman.
We have the biggest military base there.
They're harboring.
They're a huge ally, uh, ally of ours.
Huge.
I doubt that they're a huge benefic benefactor ally of ours.
We just have a military base there.
The biggest military base in the region.
They literally have uh Hamas terrorists staying in Qatar.
Here's the thing.
That's why they got bombed in Dohan because they got terrorists there.
Okay.
Well, what are these terrorists doing in Qatar?
Well, by that logic, the IDF needs to get bombed too, because IDF is a terrorist uh organization as well.
No, they're not.
According to 100% of terrorists, they illegally occupy land bomb.
They're they illegally occupy land, they kill people every single day, they kill kids every single day.
They fit the definition of terrorism.
So that means America should America is America's terrorist terrorists too.
We shouldn't have to do that.
No, American military is terrorist too.
No, we should not be supporting them.
No, no, no, no.
America military, according to your definition, are also terrorists as well.
We've done some bullshit.
We shouldn't listen.
We should have never went to the Middle East.
We should have never gone.
No, no.
We killed a whole we killed 400,000 people in Afghanistan.
So we shouldn't have been there.
We are we a terrorist organization too.
We shouldn't have been there.
We shouldn't have gone there.
No, Amara, answer the question.
No, we're not.
We're not.
But we did do some bullshit.
And we're doing the same thing that they did.
Well, here's the thing.
We we haven't been involved in the government.
Overthrow governments.
There's a reason why.
CIA kills people.
Of course.
We our military killed.
Of course.
3.8 million people in uh in Japan.
We killed 400,000 people in Iraq.
We occupied Iraq, Afghanistan, and in that region pretty much for 20 years.
Yeah, but why?
We have done far worse than IDF has done.
No, no, no, but why?
Because we have we have uh war hungry people that live in our country.
Who are the war-hungry people that live in our country?
Our presidents, uh vice president, our donors personnel.
They're donors who are what?
You could you can add, you could add the Zionist component to it if you want to.
That's a huge component.
The entire war on terror, the entire war on terror was basically destabilizing the Middle East for the benefit of Israel.
No, no, America is man, Israel is the size of a pinky finger, dude.
It's not a good thing.
That's fine.
It's a small country.
We have American interests in the region.
See, that's that's that's the thing.
That's the has bar right there.
We get no benefit.
We get no benefit from the bullshit that we're doing in the Middle East.
The thing is this.
We go to war in these Middle Eastern countries for Israel.
Why?
Because Israel has an enormous amount of lobbying power in the United States, and they control every infrastructure point, whether it's media, the government, big tech, etc.
They have an enormous amount of power in the United States and influence.
And they use said influence and power to wage a foreign policy that benefits Israel.
This is the problem.
No, no, you're saying that America, America did all of that foregoing the benefit of America, uh foregoing the safety of America and stability of our reputation just for Israel.
Yes.
That's that's insane.
That that is the truth.
Let me put it, let me put it in the world.
Let me just say, let me just say it like this.
Jews have too much fucking power in the United States, and it's a problem.
Which Jews?
The neocons, the tech, uh, the tech moguls, the people that run these finance companies, etc.
How is it that we have a lobbying group, right?
APAC, they don't have to register in the Farah.
Because they're American citizens.
But but they're but they're lobbying on behalf of foreign government.
And we have other lobbies on behalf of foreign governments.
How is it?
We have we have other we have other lobbies on behalf of foreign governments.
They have to be able to do that.
No, no, but they're not registered as far as no, no, no.
They have to register.
You want to have to register right on the spot.
They have to register.
No, they don't.
We have to register.
No, we don't.
They listen.
The Chinese, Qatar, all these guys, they're they're not right, they're registered.
If you're Americans lobbying on behalf of interest in relations between America and a foreign country, you don't have to register as far a there are more than just the Jewish Israeli lobby in America of Mer American citizens doing it.
They don't register as far as it's a big thing.
If you are operating on a for a country, you have to register as far.
Okay.
We see that Israel registers far when they influence things in America.
So, Brandon, you don't think you don't think you don't think the Israelis control our foreign policy?
No, they don't control our foreign policy.
They lobby on behalf of foreign policy.
They do have some control, but they don't control it uh completely.
You don't think they have a ridiculous amount of say we've given them billions upon billions of dollars the past year?
No, let's put it in perspective, Myron.
Who gives more money, far or not?
Qatar or Israel.
Israel gives more money.
No, no, no, no, they don't.
Yeah, they do, and I'll tell you why.
Because private donors don't have to re Mary Mandelson gave Trump a hundred million dollars this last year.
And she just won donors.
Islam Musk gave him two Elon Musk gave him 200 million.
Sure.
But what I'm trying to say is doubled what she gave.
Sure.
But what I'm trying to say is is that we have a bunch of donors that give money, right?
Well wink wing Hudge Hudge to congressmen, to senators, etc.
Help them, et cetera.
That none of that gets a lot of times that stuff doesn't get reported.
No, no, no, no, no.
Hold on, hold on.
Let's go back to the back.
They gotta use an Apex tracker to find it.
Let's go back to fact-based.
When you go to Farah, Israel is registered for Qatar, uh, China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, all of them.
China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, uh uh did I say Qatar?
They're all give more money than APAC and Farah registered uh Israeli donations or Israeli lobby.
They give far more money.
Okay.
They give, they give twice as much, uh 20 times as much money as Israel is putting into our do we do we have congressmen showing up in Chinese uniforms?
Do we have anti anti-Saudi Arabian laws in place that deport college students?
Do we have uh mass censorship for anyone that's critical of Qatar?
No, dude.
These guys run our country, and to not admit that is absolutely nuts.
No, no, Myron, do we not have laws against uh what they call it Islamophobia?
Did we not just run through a gamut after October, I mean, after September 11th of Islamophobia?
You can't say nothing about the Quran in America.
Burn the Quran and see what happened to you, America.
Muslims get shit on all day.
Muslims get shit.
Muslims get shit on all day.
And so do the Jews.
Well, hold on.
Here's the difference though.
It wasn't it took October 7th.
Jews ain't getting ate up right now.
No, they are.
But you want to know why?
Because they're committing a genocide right now, and this is the first time that people are seeing where their tax dollars are going to be.
What about the Christians?
What about the Christians that are murdered?
What about the Christians that are murdered and the Jews that are murdered in Syria?
What about the terrorist activity that go on on a day-to-day basis from Islamic terrorist groups that are killing and behavior people on TV?
We weren't giving Bashar al-Assad billions of dollars a year to kill Druze and Christians, but we give the uh the Israelis billions of dollars a year, and they're doing a whole bunch of bullshit with our tax dollars.
How is it that Israel?
If you want to say Israel is doing it, can't you say that Islam the Islamic uh organizations are doing the same thing?
Hasbollah and all these other terrorist organizations, or they're doing the same thing.
Yeah, and these organizations were created because of Israel.
Hezbollah was created because Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982.
Yes.
Like, here's the thing, you're not going to be able to do that.
This is what you're saying.
It's a difference between being intentionally or something intentionally happened and something happened as a result of something.
It's a it's a big difference.
What I'm saying is this you're acting as you're not Israel created Hezbollah intentionally.
Okay.
Israel has created all the conflicts in the Middle East.
Okay.
They've created a lot of problems that we've had to come in and save them diplomatically at the UN and/or get involved in wars because of them, or we suffer terrorist attacks because of Them.
If you look at bin Laden's letter, Bin Laden wrote a letter to you.
That's actually a big reason why they want to ban TikTok, by the way.
There was a letter that went viral back in uh November of 2023.
A letter to America.
In that letter, Bin Laden wrote out line by line his issues and grievances with the United States.
Obviously, this letter was banned everywhere back in 2002, but it resurfaced in 2023.
And this letter, a big part of it, his issue was our support of Israel.
Our support of Israel is what infuriates the Muslim world because we're killing Muslims all the time.
We're funding the Israelis to kill Muslims all the time.
No, no, no.
That's the crowd comes.
No, no, no.
Look at this.
Let's put this in perspective, Myron.
And we don't have anti-Islam laws, but we definitely have anti-Semitism laws.
Big difference.
No, no, because we we do.
Well, first of all, we have we have hate crimes and we have laws against discrimination and hate based on your religious affiliation.
You can't go somewhere and burn a Quran and you're gonna get in trouble.
You could protest.
You could be a cow.
Okay, here's the difference.
I could go ahead and be a college student, right?
Let's say I have an F1 visa and I burn a Quran and say, yo, Islam is terrible.
These guys are awful.
Nothing's gonna happen to me.
But if I'm a college student and I burn a Talmud, or I say, yo, Israel's an apartheid uh ethno state, or they're committing a genocide, I might get deported.
Thanks to Marco Ruby.
Show me some show me somebody burning the Quran.
Show me somebody burning the Quran.
They're not gonna get deported is my point.
No, no, you ain't never seen nobody burn a Quran.
Have you?
No, you haven't.
No, you ain't never seen nobody on college campuses.
People do it on X. People do it on the on the internet.
No, no, no.
You on college, we're talking about college campus.
You show me on college campus where somebody's burning the Quran, mocking uh Muhammad and saying death to or or saying that, you know, from uh a statement that's similar to from the river to the sea when it comes to Israeli.
I mean, when it comes to uh Muslims, you'll never hear, you'll never see it.
And then if you saw it and they didn't do nothing, then I'll agree with you.
But let's let's talk about a minute.
I'm not gonna get deported for burning uh a Quran if I was a F1 student visa.
But if I'm doing something and I'm being critical of Israel, I will get deported.
How can you make that comparison when you ain't never seen somebody burn a Quran on the world?
Mahmoud Khalil is getting deported right now for being critical of Israel.
No, no, not critical.
Organizing a group that's counter to American interest, and also there's they're saying they want to overthrow Western civilization.
He's not he's not just saying he's critical of it.
There's a lot of people that are critical of Israel, obviously.
How about the girl?
How about the girl up at the hospital?
Okay, let's go ahead.
How about the girl at Tufts that got uh that got deported or getting deported because she wrote an op-ed talking about boycotting Israel?
They're deporting her.
Are you talking about the girl that came on to that anti-American?
No, she wrote she's from Tufts.
She was up in Boston, she was up in Somerville, Boston, Massachusetts area.
I'm not sure.
She got arrested by ICE.
There's plenty of them like that.
The point I'm trying to make is that Israel has a ridiculous amount of influence in our government to the point where if college students criticize them, which is their first amendment ring, by the way.
It's when you're saying from the river to the sea, when you're saying that uh uh didn't say the river to the sea costing people on campus.
This girl got deported for literally writing an op-ed talking about boycotting Israel.
That's crazy.
I cannot, I cannot validate this.
But what I'm saying is that on college campus, I could give you the list are.
And I'll give you the Nanyahoo at the West Bank when he's just sabotage the Oslo Corps on purpose.
If you give it to me and it's and it's authenticated, I'll I'll make a video about it.
So let's let's put this in perspective.
These people are on campus saying pretty much to kill Jews.
They never said that, dude.
From the river, what is rubbing the river to the sea mean?
Saying Palestine will be free from the river to the sea.
What does that mean?
That does not mean killing all the Jews.
No, no, what does that mean?
How they gonna be how are they gonna be free from the river to the sea, where it's occupied by Jews right now?
No, they say Palestine will be free, which means Palestinians will have sovereignty.
Now, some people want to interpret that.
Some people want to interpret that as as some people want to interpret that as that's genocidal.
But here's the thing they're not even saying from the river to the sea a lot of these students.
They write op-eds and they're getting deported.
No, no, no.
You you you've given one example.
Like, for instance, you're giving one example of a person writing an op-ed and you're claiming that they got deported.
I need to look into it and figure out is there stuff behind it?
Because you just said the one guy's getting deported because he disagreed with Israel.
He coordinated there's more, hold on, hold on.
He was representing the students.
There were Jews that were protesting with him.
There were Jews that were protesting with him.
You're being disingenuous because he went to Shabbat with these guys.
He didn't hate Jews, Mahmoud Khalil.
No, no, you're being disingenuous because he also had issues with it with immigration informing.
So he did not inform the government that he was a part of a foreign organization.
And you have to disclose that if you have a student visa.
He did not properly disclose that.
That's one of the reasons why he got deported.
The other one was uh conjuring up controversy on the on the university saying debt to America, who wasn't saying that costing not him.
I'm saying the organization was doing it.
They were accosting Jewish students, and also they were saying they want to overthrow Western civilization.
There were Jewish students with him marching at Columbia.
It don't matter just because they're Jewish, don't mean that they they're not saying things that could be anti-Semitic or that they're pushing from a river to the sea, or the fact that he did not disclose his foreign involvement with another government and he's has a student visa.
Look, my argument here, because remember, this all started because I said that Jews have an undue level of influence in American politics.
What I'm trying to explain here, what I'm trying to explain here is that they are getting students deported for exercising the first amendment because they don't like what they're saying.
That's a problem.
You don't have the First Amendment to the degree in which you can threaten people, you can say that you're gonna overthrow the American government, or you're gonna somehow not disclose you're gonna they say we want to we don't overthrow Western civilization.
They never said that, dude.
Come on, man.
That's not what they said.
I'll put it up, I'll put it up and send it to you, and you have to put it on your show.
That's that's not that's not what it is, man.
And here's the thing.
Remember, political speech is the most protected, supposed to be the most protective form of speech in the United States according to the First Amendment.
According to the First Amendment, right?
Now violence is not protected.
They were never inside uh they were never in the city.
They got video of these students on campus.
There were Jewish students trying to go through.
They literally are fighting Jewish students and not allowing them to go through the case.
Here's the thing.
They they took over the Jewish hall and they wouldn't let Jews into this into the section.
I mean, dude, that here's the thing.
You gotta remember there's different groups of protesters.
There's that there's a group here, there's another group here, et cetera.
He was representing a certain group of kids that were protesting.
The point I'm trying to make here, the point I'm trying to make here, right?
Besides going into the details with Khalil's case or the girl up in Somerville or whatever, the point I'm trying to make is that we are passing legislation that basically protects another country or criticism of another country.
That is crazy to me.
No, not too much.
That is crazy to me.
Bill Ackman got Claudine Gay kicked out as the president of Harvard because he didn't feel like she went hard enough on protesters in Harvard.
Like, dude, Jews run America and it's a problem.
If you don't agree with me on this, that's that's fine, but they don't run America.
The biggest threat, the biggest threat to America is these blue-haired devils, these white liberals that are in America.
That's the biggest threat to America.
The biggest threat to America is the most important thing.
The biggest threat to America is Jewish supremacy and Jewish control of our country.
That is the biggest threat to America.
And if you don't see that, I don't know what to say.
The biggest Jewish supremacy and Jewish control of our country is the biggest threat to this country.
That's the craziest thing ever.
Biggest thing Islam is the Islam is a bigger threat than anything that Jewish people can ever do.
Okay, who runs Congress?
Do Muslims run Congress?
Who runs big tech?
Do Muslims run big.
Jews run Congress?
No, they don't.
That's my no Jews run Congress.
Yes, absolutely.
No, they don't.
90% of them are funded by Okay, let me give you let me give you an example, Myron, of what you're saying funded.
Is Byron is Byron Donald's, since he's supported by APAC, is Byron Donald controlled by APAC?
Yes.
Okay, let me just tell you how you're saying is he's in front of the give by how much money did they give Byron Donald's APAC.
I can look it up if you want me to.
I already looked it up.
How many?
If you want to know how much money 40,000, I think they gave him 43,000.
It's quite a bit of money.
You know how much money he raised?
13 million dollars.
So what kind of impact do they have on Byron Donald's giving 40,000?
That's a private jet from Texas back to Florida.
That's not no real money.
He got 13 million dollars.
They weren't even his biggest, they weren't even his biggest donor.
Okay.
By far if we looked at his donors, because especially from he's here from Florida, I looked at all his donors.
Some of those donors are probably gonna be pro-Israel Zionist Jews.
No, no, his number one donor, his number one donor is also the number one donor of Marjorie Taylor Green.
It's a it's uh a real estate or real estate agency or something that was his number one donor, and so is Marjorie Taylor Green.
They have the same donors.
So IPAC does not control them.
Okay, so you don't think Israeli influence is heavy in Congress?
No, Israeli influence or pro-Israeli policy is heavy in Congress.
That's a problem.
That's a problem.
That's a that's a problem.
American city see, this is the problem that people are saying.
The reason that Israel is even connected to America because we have a lot of people in America that are Jewish.
We have a lot of people that have uh dual affiliation.
We have a spiritual affiliation and we have a governmental affiliation between the two countries.
So this is why you have a lot of people in America who care about the best interests of Israel and the Israel American policy.
If you are saying this is all coming from Israel, I'll have a problem with it.
The American people who are supporting and paying money into AIPAC are the ones who are making this decision.
If you don't like what Americans think, then that's a different way.
You got a bunch of brainwashed evangelical Christians that read the Schofield Bible, and then you got true.
That are hardcore Zionists and then you also go.
The Bible is very clear that Christians.
And then you got dual allegiance, then you got dual allegiance Zionist Jews that give a bunch of money and donate.
Look, if you don't think that, you know, Israeli influence in our government is a problem.
I guess that's your opinion.
But I think it's a big problem because they're Qatar doesn't have nearly as much influence in America.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, hold on, hold on.
Do you think Qatari influence in our education system is a problem?
Oh, because they fund colleges?
Billions of dollars of them funding Ivy League colleges.
And we all know that the crux of what's wrong with America starts on a college campus.
They give billions of dollars to universities in Ivy League schools.
Is that a problem?
Okay, who runs the Ivy League schools?
They're run by Jews.
Like the majority of Ivy League schools are run by Qatar.
I think like eight out of the nine of the Ivy League schools are run by Jews, man.
I'm gonna give you a shirt that says all leaves road, all roads lead to Jewish.
It's the truth.
Bro, it well, so why would a Jewish university?
See, and here's the thing, Brendan.
They don't want you to know this.
They don't want you to know this.
When you connect all the dots, unfortunately, they have a ridiculous amount of influence and power in the United States.
And this is a problem.
So you're saying that Jews saying the Jews run a university that takes billions from Qatar to preach and I guess lament to uh anti-Israeli propaganda.
Here's the thing, dude.
Is that what you're saying?
Here's a perfect example.
Harvard.
Back in 2023, right?
And 2024.
Kids were protesting all over the place, pro-Palestine protests.
Bill Ackman gets the head of Harvard fired, Claudine Gay, because he didn't like that she wasn't supporting Israel enough just because she did it.
She allowed the students.
How did he get her fired?
He complains to Harvard.
He's a huge donor.
Enormous amount of influence.
This is what I'm talking about when I say no, no, is he the biggest who gives the most money to Harvard?
Him or Qatar?
I don't know.
I tell you right now, it's Qatar.
Okay.
Billions of dollars.
Okay, but how was Bill Ackman able that?
China billions of dollars.
That's fine.
Harvard has a huge list of donors or whatever.
So here's that makes my point even stronger then.
Bill Ackman doesn't even give as much money, but he was able to get the president fired.
Who fired the president?
Or the uh probably the board.
These schools all have a board.
So he got her fired.
Myra, here's the problem with what you said.
The head of Harvard.
Here's the problem with what you're saying.
Okay.
You are attaching ill intent and malice to everything that a Jewish person does.
Why can't he say white virtue?
No, no.
Why can't she just be inept and lost her job because people that are in the in administration and people who support the university wanted her out?
Why does it have to be one guy to happen to be Jewish?
Okay.
That has all the pull.
It takes more than just him.
Because he said it himself.
He said it himself.
He was pissed off that Harvard wasn't doing it.
She was a president of Harvard.
He's the only one.
Him and others.
He's the only one mad at what she did.
Him and the Jewish organizations, right?
Like alumni, basically threatened to withhold donation money and threatened to support, uh, threaten to stop supporting Harvard if she stayed as president.
And they got her fired.
Okay, you're you're taking away from my point.
They did it only because they're Jews.
Yes, pretty much.
Yeah.
That's why.
Because they didn't like the fact that she allowed these protests to happen in Harvard that were.
The students, a lot of them Jewish, by the way.
A lot of students who are Jewish, by the way, were protesting against the genocide back then, and then they didn't feel like she was doing enough to curb the anti-Semitism because they and they got rid of her.
If that doesn't show influence, the point of this discussion here is for me to say that they have undue influence.
She didn't get in trouble until there was people getting bludgeoned on campus who were Jews in front of the world.
It became a viral, it became uh a national story.
Donald Trump spoke about it.
We had congressional hearings on it.
Jewish students on campus were getting accosted.
This is when they start to unravel.
It was it was it was protesting, right?
It's not protest, it's rioting.
They literally had police come and shut these riots down.
Myron, Police on campus, arresting people.
The point I'm trying to make here is no other country has this level of influence where we can get presidents kicked out of Ivy League schools.
We can go ahead and pay congressmen off.
We could go ahead and put laws in place for a foreign country.
They don't have to register under API.
On behalf of Israel, that's on behalf of Jews.
No, it's on the protests were strictly because of what was going on.
No, no, no.
With Israel-Palestine.
It wasn't.
That's why they protested.
No, they weren't.
We have nothing to do with Israel.
It was protests against what's going on.
So they were targeting Jewish students on campus.
Let's ask this.
Prior to 2023, did anyone say anything or criticize Jews or Zionism or any of that stuff prior to 2023, October 7th?
I mean, I would I would say yes, but I don't know.
Okay.
It wasn't that's fine.
I because I've been talking about this topic before it became hot for people to talk about.
Prior to October 7th, no one even knew what Zionism was.
No one cared, no one talked about it, because you would get banned if you talked about Israel, Jewish power, any of this stuff.
You'd get banned.
Then after October 7th happened, and people saw in 4K kids getting blown up and killed every single day by the Israeli government.
It's the kids.
Yes.
But the majority of people that have died have been kids.
Bro, 83% of the people that have died in Gaza are children and innocent civilians.
According to who according to the IDF's own stats and numbers.
No, they're 80, 80% of the 100%.
No, 83% are civilians.
Oh, yeah, you said civilians, but you said kids are.
Okay, over 50% of Gaza is children.
Okay?
So over 50%.
Under under the age of 18.
And they were getting blown up and killed.
But let me go back to my point.
Your math is your math is not math, and your math is not math.
You're saying just because 50% of the population is kids, you're assuming that 50% of all the people that got killed are children.
No, I said 50% of the population, over 50%, around 50% of the population in Gaza are children.
Then I said define children.
Under the age of age of under the age of 18%.
Okay.
So we're talking about about half the population, right?
Now of the people, that was just the kids.
That's not including the adults that are innocent, everything else like that.
Of the people that were killed so far in Gaza, 83%.
This comes from internal Israeli documents, by the way.
83% have been civilians.
And a lot of them are kids.
And then on top of that, we have doctors that have testified that said almost all the people that came in to see that I saw were children.
That died.
Doctors, doctors in Gaza.
American, British, Australian doctors.
From all over the place.
What would most of them be kids?
You saying that kids are just in the buildings by themselves, kids are just walking the streets by themselves and getting blown up.
Myron, the kids are with the adults.
So if kids, how how would you say majority of these uh kids dying?
If you blow up a building with people in it, is it just kids in the building or adults and children?
What I'm telling you is You act like they're just targeting kids, Myron.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying they don't give a shit who they're targeting.
How are they gonna target adults without the kids?
How are they gonna target Hamas without hitting civilians?
And how are you gonna hear civilians without hitting some kids?
They don't care.
And that's precisely my point.
They don't care.
I'll tell you what they could do.
No, here's the thing.
Explain to me this then, Brandon.
If they have the ability to run a 10-year-long beeper operation where they where they accurately and systematically killed a bunch of Hebola fighters using uh a very you know smart technique, by the way, I gave them credit for this.
They had the bombs and beepers and walkie-talkies for 10 years.
Then in another operation, they're able to go ahead and get Mossad agents behind enemy lines and destroy Iran's air defenses before they did Operation Rising Line, where the Air Force came in and was able to destroy them and get air control.
How are the Israelis able to do all these complex and sophisticated operations, right?
With superior militaries, by the way, Hezbollah, superior to the Hamas, and so is the IRG, super superior.
How are they not able to replicate that to some degree against Hamas?
I'll tell you why.
They didn't replicate it because they want the land.
They could have gone ahead.
No, no, Myra, what's the replication look like?
What what what software, what what beeper scenario do you think they can do against Hamas?
When Hamas is holding citizens of Israel as hostages, and they try not to kill the hostages, and then they kill them.
And then Hamas is hiding behind people.
Okay.
So how do they get to Hamas without some people being collateral?
But my point is dope.
That's Hamas's whole purpose.
Okay.
If the people get killed instead of them.
Is that not true?
No, no, no.
The point I'm trying to make to you here is because you're saying, oh, how should have they responded?
I'm explaining to you that Israel has a capability with superior military.
Give me an example of what they should have done.
They did.
Okay, I'll give you one.
They were able to assassinate Ishmael Haney and Tehran Iran.
So they killed one of the chief negotiator of Hamas in a foreign country that they have problems with, and they were able to do it pretty accurately, and they killed him and his bodyguard.
Tell me how they're able to do that in hostile land.
Because he's not, because he's not under a he's not in a school.
He's not in a building, he's not in a mosque shooting rockets.
He's not hiding behind his citizens.
The point I'm trying to make is that they have the ability to do precise strikes and assassinate the people that need to be done that need to be assassinated.
Okay instead of bombing an entire entire area and killing kids all day.
Let's just killing kids all day.
Let's just say that uh the Tamas terrorists were all in the building with a bunch of people in it.
What do you do then?
Send a special forces.
That's how they operate.
This is a Hamas operator.
Okay, use a special forces unit.
You guys are able to go ahead and do all these other intelligence operations.
Why do they gotta risk getting killed just to save uh Palestinians?
That's precisely my point, and that is the problem with the Israelis.
They don't value the risk.
They don't value, they don't value Palestinian life.
And that's fine.
And you can tell from what they don't.
You just said it right there.
They'd kill all of them.
Because here's the thing.
I'll tell you this.
They're doing this warfare, etc.
They're doing all this stuff, they're losing support.
And they woke up the entire support.
I don't care if they lose support.
The war will be over soon.
Uh look.
You're not losing support from America.
No, they're gonna they're here's the thing.
Why do you think that they're paying influencer $7,000 per post?
Why do you think that they're they bought TikTok?
Why do you think they're putting out this anti-Semitism?
What?
Mark, how many influences did they pay?
There was a bunch of meal with them the other day in New York.
They put an they put a number on there.
I think it was like 18.
No, you might be getting 7K just for doing this debate.
Who knows, man?
Hold on, let's let's get let's get to that.
You think I'm getting paid?
You think I'm getting paid?
Honestly.
By Israel?
Yeah, oh, anybody.
Anything to say what I say.
You know what?
I'll I'll tell you this.
I don't know.
I I can't confirm or deny.
You know, I I don't know.
I don't know what Israel's doing.
They do a whole bunch of shit.
I'll tell you right now, and you and I both know.
Because you you you, I'm sure you you you done podcasts, you make money on podcasts.
First of all, 7,000 per video is decent.
That's not enough to make somebody ruin their whole platform over here.
That's not a lot of money.
And then you gotta say they supposedly got 18 to 20 people.
Uh-huh.
How much they're paying 7,000 per post.
How effective is it to pay 7,000 to a person that got no following?
Who are they paying?
Well, here's here's the thing.
I got I'm the biggest Zionist in America right now, and they ain't paying me nothing.
So who they paying?
Because people that support Israel is, I don't see many of them.
And the ones I do see got little bitty channels.
And you're gonna pay 7,000 per person for them to push Israeli propaganda to 200,000 people.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Look, the point I'm trying to make here is that Israel has the capability to do targeted strikes, operation uh uh intelligence operations that are very sophisticated, and they're doing those.
But that but here's the thing.
They could have done that with Hamas, they could have done that.
They've already been able to do it with more sophisticated militaries.
Myra, where uh Hamas is underground somewhere, and they're underground under places that are heavily populated by the United States.
The IRGC has tunnels all uh all around Iran too.
How do you think they uh keep their ballistic missiles hidden?
Well, they can stay under the tunnels everywhere too.
No, they went after ballistic missiles, they didn't, they weren't fighting a terrorist group on a on a multi-front basis.
And so when you say, how do they get to and you gotta think about this, Myra?
Um, Hamas planned it this way.
They planned it to where they have to go through the people to get to them.
It's not by accident.
They put tunnels under schools and they did all this because they knew if Israel retaliated, they would have to end up killing people in order to get to them.
I'm gonna refute that.
I'm gonna refute that right now.
Did you know that Hamas put a deal on October 10th to return all the hostages back in exchange for the Israeli government not entering the Gaza Strip?
No, no, but what what else was in the deal?
That was it.
They weren't gonna give up arms.
No, they're gonna be able to do that.
They weren't gonna get a C6, and therefore they attacked that.
You know, that's the dumbest ever.
But hold on, hold on.
Because you give the hostages back and they attack you.
But hold on, hold on.
No, because you're saying they their goal was to get Gaza destroyed.
And I'm telling you that they literally had a deal in place on October 10th.
They were goal wasn't to get to destroy it.
No, no, I didn't say Gaza destroyed it.
Their goal was that IDF couldn't get to them without killing hostages or killing citizens.
That was their goal.
Now they keep prolonging it so more people are dying.
So assuming that's true that they were using the people uh is like the Israeli talking point, they're using the uh the people as human shields or whatever.
Israeli talking point.
That's it that's that's a husband.
That's an absurd why where are they fighting from?
What where are they fighting them from?
That's that's an absurd uh argument that oh yeah, they're using them as human shields.
They have tunnels.
They have tunnels.
Okay, and then when they come out of the tunnels, where do they fight IDF it?
They pop out the tunnels, they shoot at them, and then they run back into tunnels.
That's how they're doing it.
They're doing straight guerrilla warfare like Vietnam style.
And this is why it's gonna be very difficult.
They got tunnels and schools, hospital, they got tunnels everywhere.
But the point I'm trying to make is because you you made the argument saying, oh, well, their goal was to use these people as human shields.
I'm telling you, on October 10th, there was a deal in place to get all the hostages back right uh to Israel.
Myron.
In exchange for them not entering.
And here's my thing.
The Israeli government, here's another ugly thing.
The Israeli government doesn't give a fuck about the hostages.
They don't.
Byron, Myron, if they gave the hostages back on October the 10th, what what agreement did they have?
What do you mean is uh agreement?
Is it as far as like they're still occupied?
No, no, they're still occupied.
It's still an apartheid state.
Yep.
Um, Israel still is on the West Bank.
Yep.
Uh Israel didn't concede to anything.
So why would they, on October the 10th, want to give hostages back and get nothing in return.
Sure, I'll tell you.
I'll explain to you why.
So when October 7th happened, right?
This is what the Israelis did.
Zakah organization, the head of that, went around saying, Oh, there were babies in ovens.
Women were getting uh systemically raped.
There were mass rapes, beheaded babies, the babies in ovens, etc.
And Benjamin Nanyahu took this lie and spread it.
Next thing you know, Joe Biden's saying, oh yeah, what happened on October 7th was horrible.
We had beheaded babies, blah, blah, blah.
So the Hasbarra, the atrocity started formulating and it started getting crazy.
Hamas knew right then and there, oh shit, they're gonna level this strip.
They're you they're lying about this stuff so that they can go ahead and get support for a war where they're gonna decimate this fucking land.
Knowing that, they said, look, we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna give you guys the hostages back so that we don't get utterly destroyed.
Because the Israelis ran with the propaganda to fuel uh to fuel their war to the what they're doing now.
And then by the time everyone figured out that they lied about the beheaded babies, they lied about the mass rapes, they lied about um them not activating the Hannibal Directive.
They lied about all this.
They be hated people and they did rap.
They didn't behead babies.
They didn't put babies in ovens.
None of that was true.
That's what I mean.
They burned babies, they burned babies and uh they burned babies and and parents and stuff alive.
One baby was killed on that day.
Your name was uh No, no, there wasn't no one baby.
They got they got they got video footage, Myron.
Did you see the videos?
I did look at it.
45 minute video.
Yeah, I did watch, I did watch the 45 minute propaganda video, I think.
And they were chopping people's heads off, Myron.
Okay.
They were killing innocent kids, executing them.
I'm not killed like a hundred, they killed I think maybe a thousand people at that at that festival, gunning them down.
They rape women.
They took them back to God, they probably raped them over there when they're gonna be able to do that.
There's no proof there's no proof of there's no proof of mass rapes in number one.
Because the Israelis will not.
You rape, if you rape one or two people, that's still too many rapes.
There's no, here's the thing.
We don't have any physical proof of that whatsoever.
They got videoed in raping a woman.
No, they don't.
And couldn't abreast them.
No, they don't.
There was there was there was none of that.
That that's that's not true.
What do you mean?
There's people, I didn't see it, but there's people that saw that 45 minute video.
They're lying.
I looked at that 45 minute video that you're talking about.
Yes, they made it up.
That's what I'm trying to explain to you.
But 45 minutes, what did you see, Myron?
Okay.
45 minutes.
A lot of them, right?
A lot of them running on uh dirt bikes, going into uh kibbutzes, shooting into random houses, some of them getting killed, actually, a lot of footage of them getting killed, actually, uh, and in the GoPros.
But the point I'm trying to make is is that here's the thing.
I'm not denying the fact that horrible things happened on October 7th.
I'm being very explicit about this.
Terrible things that happened.
Terrible things they do October 7th.
Hold on.
Their plan was to get hostages so that they can do a hostage exchange because Israel's holding 11,000 Palestinians illegally.
But the point I'm trying to make is is this that was that was the goal.
They were to do hostage exchange.
They did all that just to do a hostage swap.
Yes.
Yes.
That is why that's not a part of any of the negotiations.
What?
Was a one-to-one hostage swap.
No, because they understand that if they're able to kidnap one Israeli, they can get back hundreds of Palestinians for that.
This is what they did with Elias Shalat, which is actually gonna talk about what I was gonna say next.
Here's the other thing.
So they were pushing out these lies.
Baby cut out of a out of a pregnant woman, beheaded babies, babies and oaths, etc.
mass rapes, all these lies, right?
From the Zak organization pushed a lot of these lies.
Because they were the first ones on the scene dealing with the bodies so they could, you know, put them in a proper Jewish burial.
The point is that the prime minister ran with these lies and Joe Biden ran with these lies.
The entire world was behind Israel, and that's all Israel needed because they said, all right, we're gonna level fucking Gaza.
And then you have Ghala the day before says, oh yeah, these are human animals, we're gonna cut the water, we're gonna cut everything, we're gonna absolutely destroy them.
So they use all this propaganda, this atrocity propaganda to justify a ridiculous war.
And by the time people figured out that the Israelis were lying about a lot of this stuff, it was too late.
They were already in, they were already leveling the place, killing people.
This is why everyone's turned on Israel because they're realizing that they used a bunch of lies to prop up their asymmetric warfare.
The fact that they slaughtered all these innocent people at a festival, and the fact that they took hostages and they also beheaded and killed people.
Okay, that's enough.
A bunch of the people that were killed on October 7th, here's another dirty thing.
The Israelis did it.
The Hannibal Directive was activated on that day.
Oh, let's do the numbers.
I need proof.
I need proof.
Okay, sure.
Where's the proof of the stuff?
Let's do the numbers.
They own people.
1200.
Could we agree that 1,200 people were killed on that day?
Uh that's the that's what I'm hearing.
Fair.
I don't know what it is.
First it was 2,000, then they then said, no, sorry, we miscounted, it's 1200.
So let's go through the numbers.
That's what that's not with that.
That's not weird, right?
Because I'm not shitting on them for that.
But it all happened.
And they thought it was more than what was.
That's fine.
Uh that's fine.
I'm just going, you know, the timeline.
So first it was 2,000, then it brought it down to 1,200.
Now, let's go ahead and do the breakdown.
400 of them were IDF, okay, which means there are enemy combatants against uh international law, fair game, unfortunately, right?
So that leaves leaves us with about 800.
We know that at least 200 of those people were killed through the Hannibal Directive.
And the Hannibal Directive is a directive where the Israelis are allowed to kill their soldiers and their people if they fear that they're going to be kidnapped by Palestinian militia groups.
And the reason why they have this rule, I'll explain why they have it, is because they know, look it up.
Yeah, search Hannibal Directive.
The reason why the Israelis practice this is because they know that if the Palestinians are able to kidnap Israelis, it's gonna put them in a very bad diplomatic position where they have to negotiate.
And the last time they had to do a hostage exchange of this level, they kidnapped an IDF soldier named Galid Shalit or Eli, uh Ghaleed Shele, I think his name is, and they had to exchange 1,000 Palestinians for him.
One of those Palestinians that came back was a guy named Yahya Sinwar, who was the head of the military wing of Hamas and was obviously doing a whole bunch of shit that pissed him off.
He spoke Hebrew, he understood the Mossad very well, understood Shenbe.
He studied them for 20 years while he was in prison.
So he was one of the guys that came back.
So the Israelis said, you know what?
Never again.
We're not gonna be appointed in a situation like this.
It's just better to kill these Israel, these uh Israeli hostages instead of them getting back into the Gaza triple or whatever because it puts them in a bad spot.
Yeah.
Myron, you off on this.
The Hannibal Directive is only the protocol to kill soldiers.
Yes.
Preventing them from getting captured.
Also civilians.
Because No, it doesn't say civilians in here anywhere.
Of course it's not gonna say that.
Bro, you don't you do realize that every Israeli is effectively a soldier, right?
They have mandatory military service.
No, no, but they have mandatory military service.
Yeah, but that don't mean that they're active soldiers at that point.
They're soldiers.
It doesn't say it doesn't say that specifically, and there's a reason why they would not want current soldiers to be captured.
It would just say civilians, Byron.
Why would it say soldiers if if it's obviously clear that everybody serves at some point?
So why wouldn't it just say civilians?
Why would it have to be a good idea?
Because it sounds horrible to say it that way.
They're gonna put soldiers so it sounds better, so they have plausible deniability, like, oh, well, we have to do it because they have intelligence.
You you're floating something that you you're floating something that's that's uh subjectively nefarious.
Why can't it just be what it says?
It's too much.
Why can't it just be what it says?
Where do you have evidence that they're doing that to citizens?
Sure.
Uh uh a couple of uh Israelis went on a podcast like a day or two after, and they admitted Israeli tanks were shooting into the kibbutzes.
The the other reason how we know that the Israelis killed them, a bunch of the festival goers that you're talking about, they were burned alive and shot with hellfire missiles.
They don't have that.
The the um the Hamas doesn't have that.
Who has that?
The IDF, Apache helicopters were shooting down and killing them.
Where's the video of that?
There's there's a bunch of footage on it where Apache helicopters are shooting concert goers.
There's footage on it.
I've never seen that footage.
They don't they don't want it to be.
It destroys the Hasbara.
I can send you all of it.
No, send it to me.
You bro, if you got video of an Apache helicopter shooting down people, yes, you I play it on the YouTube channel.
And here's the thing.
It's it's it's like thermal.
So you can't tell if they're Hamas fighters or what it is.
So they just shot at everybody.
The order come on, my own.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
You have Ghana, He's been indicted by the ICC.
He was the defense minister of Israel at the time.
He admitted.
He admitted on Israeli TV, and I'll send you the link for this too.
He admitted that the Hannibal Directive was in fact activated on October 7th.
It was activated.
Yeah, but that the yeah, I'm just reading it right here.
Yeah.
It being activated makes sense.
Yep.
It being activated against active military or on behalf of active military not to get captured.
That all makes sense.
It's not anything nefarious if the if the But that's important to the 1200 that were killed.
But that's important because October.
How many were killed on the Hannibal Directive?
200 confirmed.
And they will be kept, they will be counted as military personnel.
Well, again, you said 400 military personnel were killed.
There's no video evidence of anything that you're talking about that I've seen, but I'll take your word for it.
They do have a Hannibal directive.
But how many people were killed in the Hannibal Directive?
And they have to be military active personnel.
We know it was two million.
It was 200 at least that were killed with the handle directive.
Depending to who?
This comes from Times of Israel.
That's where I got that number.
But I believe the government a little bit more than Times of Israel.
Or at least I want to hear what the government has to say.
That's Israeli media.
Yeah, but the IDF will.
I mean, I want to hear what they got to say too.
Well, here's the thing.
The point I'm trying to make is this.
October 7th, the atrocity they try to sell, where they're like, oh, yeah, 1,200 people, babies beheaded, babies in ovens, etc.
They sensationalized it to justify a war.
And to justify not just the war, but a genocide that they have going on now.
I'll say this.
At maximum, Hamas killed 600 people at maximum.
We don't know how many they killed versus how many the IDF killed.
And here's another thing, too.
You gotta understand.
Every single person that they get back into Gaza, they're able to get hundreds of Palestinians back.
So their motive when they went in there was to take hostages for political leverage because they know they can't fight the IDF.
They don't have to be able to do that.
But they killed some of them.
They killed some of them, man.
They raped some of them, they killed them.
I mean, that's of course they did.
And that's horrible.
That's worried.
If they did that in America, what do you think we'll do?
Yeah, it wouldn't be good.
It would be good.
But why can't why can't Israel?
Why can't it be good not good in Israel's stance?
My thing is this.
They come to America and do that.
Because here's the thing.
With the Israelis, we give them money, we give them support.
They don't listen to us, they'll disobey us all the time.
They do a bunch of bullshit.
They disobeyed us with a peace agreement that Donald Trump crafted.
And then yeah, who signed it?
We told them to turn him to the chess around and go land them in Iran.
They bombed one of our best allies in the Gulf.
They had a strategic, they had a strategic operation, and it failed.
And America, did America condemn them?
They violate the Hezbollah ceasefire all the time.
They bombed the Syrians after we had just gone ahead and struck a deal with them as well.
And Hezbollah, Hezbollah is not launching missiles into Israel as we speak.
No, not to the degree that the Israelis are broken.
You act like it's one-sided.
Because Israel's the main aggressor.
Israel is absolutely the main aggressor in the Middle East.
That's objective.
They're not the main aggressor.
Dude, they've bombed seven different countries over the past few months.
Yeah, but they've bombed and attacked all their neighbors.
All of these countries are at war with Israel and they're a threat to America.
That's why America don't have a threat to America.
That's a lie.
Why are we supporting it then?
Because we have Jews that have a dual allegiance in America.
Trump is not a Jew.
Yes, but he he's backed by them.
Mary Mandelson gave him 100 million dollars for what?
Uh for what?
Elon Musk.
Obviously, because he believes in what she believed in.
But she believes in Israel.
She's an Israel person.
He raised two big, he got two billion dollars.
Then think about it.
He got two billion dollars.
Um, Mary Ellison gave 100 million.
That's a lot.
Uh Elon Musk gave her, gave him 200 million dollars.
And she's given him 30 million.
She's given him three 300 million over time.
Why did Bill Ackman and all these other Elon Musk?
But Elon Musk, you you're leaving out the fact that Elon Musk gave double what she gave Donald Trump.
But Elon Musk is donating from a position where, oh, I'm gonna get to be involved in the government, I'm gonna be able to head a doge, I'm gonna have some influence, etc.
Think about this.
No, no, no.
Who has donated that money for Israel?
He didn't uh I doubt he don't know what who has more influence, Marion Ayless Adelson or Elon Musk.
Elon Musk worked in the government with 250 million dollars.
With with Donald Trump?
He worked in a government, brother.
Miriam Middlesen has been to the White House more than anybody else.
That's not a government.
Elon Musk had doge where he had access to all our government, or at least the government to do audit.
No, nobody else had access to the government.
He was in the white house more than anybody else.
Yeah, and then he betrayed Trump and he got pissed off or whatever the point is.
So therefore they tell you that Trump don't care about nobody's money.
Because the man that gave him the most money that he allowed him to start Doge, he kicked him out.
No.
When he was disrespectful.
Well, he was already in at that point.
He was already in at that point.
He needed the money, bro.
He was facing four different criminal cases.
He was getting sued out to Wuza.
Trump needed the money.
100%, bro.
100%.
Now he's gonna get the money.
It was donated to his campaign, not to his personal pocket.
No, no, no.
But I'm saying he needed money to run when he was going in 2024.
But once he got in, it was like, all right, fuck Elon, who cares?
But the point I'm trying to make is that.
Myra, you're stretching here.
How am I stretching?
You're using money given to Trump and marrying Mario A. Mary Mail Simpson.
She didn't have a chance.
They gave him 300 million.
Over time, one hit, one hit, Elon gave him 250.
And then that's not even including how much he helped Trump in winning the election.
He was giving people a million dollars to register the vote.
He probably had more influence in Trump winning the election.
And he owns X. Okay.
So he's posting every day on Air.
Here's the thing.
He gave Trump X back.
I mean, this dude had way more than that.
No, I get that.
I get that.
You can't refute the fact.
Here's the thing.
Donors all have their own agendas, right?
Well, Elon Musk, it's power, influence, less regulation, et cetera.
With the Edel sense, it is protect Israel.
That's what she cares about.
Not only that.
It's not just protect Israel, brother.
That's that's her number.
She's a single issue voter.
All she cares about is Israel.
That's all it is.
If America goes to crap, Israel don't exist.
Which is why she donates money.
That's why she donates money to ensure that there's always Israel's at the forefront of conversation.
She was huge on the Republican side.
She was the one that got Marco Ruby in.
She got Marco Rubio in.
She was, she uh she literally said, hey, I want Marco Rubio in.
He got put in as secretary of uh of state.
Also, how is it that Bill Ackman and all these other guys that are lifelong Democrats, right?
All these tech valley bros came out of nowhere to support Trump.
Why?
Because of Israel.
This is what I'm trying to say.
What are you saying?
Okay.
He could be best for America, but also be best for Israel.
What I'm trying to say is it could be a dual, but you think they wouldn't vote for him if he's good for America, but he's lukewarm on Israel.
They would have voted for him.
They didn't know that.
They would not vote for if he was not super pro-Israel, these tech bros would not have left bipartisan lines to come over and vote Republican.
There's no way.
Let me just let me.
And that just proves what I'm trying to say.
Let me dismantle the argument.
You're correct.
They didn't vote since 2016.
Yeah, what?
They didn't support him in 2016.
Yeah, because Israel didn't need the level of support that it needs now after October 7th.
They're in the middle of a war now.
They need more support now than ever before.
No, no, Donald Trump was instrumental on making Jerusalem the capital.
Sure.
And switching our embassy to Jerusalem.
Yes.
Or recognizing as the capital, switching our embassy to Jerusalem.
They literally got a sign on the gull on heights of Donald Trump.
It's called Trump Heights.
Donald Trump was one of the biggest Zionists.
I agree.
As our president before 2020 or 2024.
You're correct.
So these people switching wasn't just an Israeli thing.
Because I tell you what, every presidential candidate kisses the butt of Israel.
Which one hasn't?
Uh John F. Kennedy.
Kennedy.
I'm talking about more modern.
And they killed him.
But the point I'm trying to make here is the here's the thing.
Israel killed him?
You said Israel killed him?
Definitely had they definitely had a line in killing him.
Yes, absolutely.
There's an irrefutable proof that they were involved in his assassination.
It's not even funny.
Everything with uh the setup in Dallas, Texas, etc., that's a whole other conversation.
But let me tell you this with Trump.
Here's the thing, right?
When I say that these Jews have an allegiance to Israel that is very strong, let me explain what I mean by this.
How is it that someone who is a never Trumper like Ben Shapiro or someone like Jonathan Greenblatt, who is a lifelong radical leftist, right?
And then you got Bill Ackman, also a lifelong Democrat, or um these other tech valley bros, they all came and started to support Trump.
Why?
Because Israel is in the middle of a very important conflict right now that's gonna dictate the future of the state and the Middle East.
So all these guys voted for Trump.
Why?
Because they knew that he was gonna give Israel the support that it needed and the money it needed to fight this war.
So what did they do?
They abandoned their party lines here in the United States because Israel comes first.
And this is what I mean.
We have people in positions of power and great influence that always put Israel first, and they will go ahead and betray their their party if it means supporting Israel.
Zoran Mamdani, Bill Ackman is waging a whole thing against him right now, even though he's a lifelong Democrat because uh Mamdani is uh against Israel.
He doesn't like Israel.
So what does he do?
Just like every other rational person that becomes Republican for Israel.
He voted Democrats' entire life.
Mari, you can say that, but that's that's you uh make it a hypothesis.
That's that don't mean it's true.
He's a hardcore.
He's admitted this many times.
Myron, our country was at stake in 2024.
Everybody in America saw, even Elon.
Why would Elon switch?
Elon is a Zionist.
It's because our country was at stake, man.
And everybody saw how poorly that our country was run.
And when Elon took over X, everything was getting exposed, what the Democrats are doing.
We don't even know who was running our country during the Biden administration.
They put up Kamala Harris.
I mean, so it's a lot of people that realize what was at stake with America.
I ain't nobody Jew Israel is on retainer.
I mean, there's no president except Kennedy, you said, that wasn't keeping Israel on retainer.
They they they have a they have a but uh military budget that we started way before Trump was in office.
So I don't think that was anything that'll make a person.
But that goes that goes to my argument that they have uh dis uh they have uh disproportionate amount of control and our government.
Influence and control.
Because people love Israel.
Like you you're trying to say that's the detriment of the United States.
I don't think it's a detriment of the United States.
We went to war in Iraq because of them.
No, it wasn't because of them.
It was because our own selfish interest.
Oh bro, we went to war.
I would argue, I would argue we had we 100% went to war in Iraq because of the Zionist Jews that were the framers, the neocons.
All of them were Zionists or Jews.
Everyone that was involved in the Iraq war from beginning to end, the crystals, the uh all these guys.
We went to war, and I would argue we would if I if I were to say, I bet we used intelligence from Israel to justify our war.
That's why we brought Nanya to tell the world.
It was fake intelligence.
I don't think it was bad intelligence.
They lied about air thrax.
They a lot about anthrax getting passed from a hijacker or getting a chance.
I think America, this is their claim.
Mohammed Atta received anthrax and uh intelligence from an Iraqi intelligence officer.
That was what they used to let America, us tonight, America, Iraq to 9-11.
It was a lie.
You're you're you're absolving America for our sinful deeds.
I think America knew that none of this stuff, if in fact not true.
We knew it wasn't true.
We wanted Benjamin Nanyahu to be an ally in telling us what's happening so we can do our own dirty dealings.
Bro, you know how much money Raytheon made?
You know how much money some of these American companies made?
Sure.
It's a reason why we want to keep going to war.
Sure.
And the thing is that Israel, when they go to war, all of their military equipment comes from the United States of America.
Sure.
They have to purchase American uh contractors and they have to purchase American equipment.
So America, when Israel go to war, we win.
And when we go to war, we we accumulate wealth.
I think America is the biggest problem.
Israel is.
But who runs America then, Brandon?
Who runs America?
I mean, it's it's say it comes full circle.
Jews run America, Jews running.
How do Jews run America, Myron?
Okay.
Who's in charge right now?
Who's the leader of the country?
Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump.
Uh Mike uh John Johnson, whatever.
Mike Johnson.
But all these guys are hardcore Zionists.
They don't have to be Jewish, they're hardcore Zionists.
He was in a West Bank taking pictures.
He was in the West Bank taking pictures.
So fucking legal settlements, bragging.
Because they love Myron, because they love Israel.
Because they get paid by Israel.
Their payment to Israel is not the only reason why they love Israel.
That that you're telling me that doesn't influence it.
I don't think so.
I think they're I think what's happened is they're picking people who love Israel.
I think if you get a million dollars, two million dollars from uh a person, right?
A donor, you're probably gonna care about what they care about.
And that donor is gonna say, you know what, just protect Israel for us, okay?
You might come on.
No, no, no, no, Myron.
I think you got it backwards.
What you got it backwards.
What the donor is looking for is they're gonna put money behind a person that agrees with my percept, my uh position.
And then you can influence that position.
Yeah, but they already agree with it.
No, so me, so me, agree with it because they're getting paid.
No, no, that's that's I think.
Or they're misinformed, or they're misinformed.
That's subjective.
I think that for asking, for instance, I'm a Zionist.
Yeah.
If I were to run for office, a bunch of people who are Zionists would love to back me.
Yep.
You're right.
They're not gonna make me be a Zionist.
Okay.
They're just gonna back me because I am a Zionist.
Let's go through this.
Let's go through this.
If me and you both ran, right?
For government and the United States.
Yeah.
You would be able to raise a significant amount more of money than I can because you are pro-s.
No, no, I'll raise money from Jews more than you would.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, here's the thing.
They're the ones that have a ridiculous amount of wealth in this country and have a ridiculous amount of influence.
Okay.
They run the media.
That's the truth.
That's but think about this.
They run social media platforms.
That's the truth.
The head of all the main agencies was a Zionist Jew, pretty much.
YouTube, Susan Wojowski, right?
Now it's Neil Mohan.
Myron.
Myron, if that was true, it's a good idea.
Instagram, Adam Asari, Mark Zuckerberg.
Myron, if that was true, then the propaganda.
Google, Sergey Brenn.
The propaganda against Israel and all the mainstream media just bashing Israel every day.
That wouldn't exist if they ran out of media.
And then it didn't.
They've just bought TikTok.
And then here's another thing too.
Notice how I know you said that the media bash Israel all the time.
Yes, Valerie Ellison, who is a huge Zionist supporter, gives millions of dollars to the IDF, bought TikTok.
He's a Jew as well.
He's a Jew as well.
No, I'm saying that they're going to.
They bought.
You said they they bought it.
Yes.
America bought it.
An American bought TikTok.
Yes.
An American.
They didn't sell it to an Israeli.
Who also donates a lot of money to a foreign government and is friends with the prime minister and lets him vacation on his island.
Listen, Larry Ellison is a good friend of Netanyahu.
I think you're conflating the two things.
If I had enough money to buy TikTok, would I be with would you say the same thing about me?
I'm a I'm a stunned Zionist.
My point is that if me and you ran for office, you would be able to get a significant amount of more money and support.
And you would not true.
Yeah, you would.
You would.
That's not true.
Hillary Clinton raid raised way more money than Trump, and he's a stunt Zionist.
Well, she was an established, she's she's an established politician.
And Trump didn't need the money like that in his first run.
Even his second run.
Uh uh Kamala Harris out outraised him by a large amount of she was only in the race for a couple months.
So it I don't think that's true.
I think Myron, if you were to say a lot of Jewish donors or Jewish Jewish people would support me over you.
Yes, and you would also have a footing with the government because they run po politics.
But I but they're not gonna make me be a Zionist.
Why does every Zionist why why is it that Thomas Massey is always in fear of losing his position?
Why why do they go ahead and call him anti-Semite and it's hard for him to get uh to get any type of anything get pushed?
They he's like literally like ostracized, right?
MTG is starting to get ostracized now.
If you're not a Zionist, it's very hard to be a politician in America, is my point.
She she well, first of all, she has won multiple elections.
Uh I don't think anybody's challenged her in any way significantly.
It's gonna be hard on their next one.
She didn't have to go kiss the wall or nothing like that.
So I she's she's just fine.
She was a Zionist before.
Now she's changing her mind.
But what I'm trying to say is you can't become a politician of real consequence in the United States unless you're a Zionist.
That's my point.
Which means they have a ridiculous amount of influence in America.
90% of Congress is funded by them.
That's true.
I think a lot, I think what happens Myron, maybe we're saying the same thing.
What I'm saying is that there's people in America who are Zionists.
Yep.
They love Israel, they believe in it because of the spiritual connection, all of that, all of the above.
When those individuals run for office, there's a plethora of Zionists and Jewish people are gonna support that person.
And they may win because there's a lot of people with a lot of money that want a politician to represent them.
And that's just the way it is.
Yeah, I I what do you think?
Why is it nefarious?
The reason why it's nefarious is because only because you don't like Zionists.
If you like Zionists, it wouldn't be nefarious.
Okay.
It's a problem because we have a foreign state that has a ridiculous amount of influence on our political process.
It's that too.
It's that Jewish people live here in America.
Yes.
And they have they have a heart and they also have an affinity to their homeland, Myron.
And they will put America second because of that affinity to that homeland.
You cannot have them do.
You cannot have dual allegiance.
Here, I'm gonna be also honest here.
You cannot be an American patriot and a Zionist at the same time.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, you can't.
You gotta pick you gotta pick one.
How?
Because our because goals and what we're trying to do doesn't always align.
And a lot of the times we have to bend the knee to support Israel and put ourselves in very precarious political situations because Israel runs rampant.
Uh Israel's uh wars and their bad foreign policy and their cowboy activities run rampant all across the Middle East.
They're doing a genocide right now in our name.
This makes us look like shit.
I I I disagree with that.
Umlegiance.
You gotta pick one.
It's either you're an American patriot or you're a Zionist.
Can't have both.
I don't believe that's true.
Um, you can be an American patriot, America first, and you can also support Israel.
Uh Israel does not come before America to me.
If we went to war with Israel, I would treat them the same way that I think about Hamas.
Fine.
If somehow they ever did an infraction in America, we will take over Israel and it would become a Christian nation.
Fine.
And I believe that with my whole heart.
But here's the problem, though.
The Jews don't think that way, Brandon.
That's fine.
You're thinking that way.
That's fine.
You're thinking it that way.
But what I'm saying is the Zionist Jews that live in this country that have the influence that are panties politicians, don't think that way.
They look at it.
Israel first, that's all I care about.
They are single issue voters.
This is why a guy like Ben Shapiro who doesn't like Trump went ahead and voted for Trump.
This is why a guy like Bill Ackman, who never voted Republican in his fucking life, voted Trump.
I'm trying to explain to you that these people that they they will always pick Israel first.
And it's dangerous to have individuals like that in positions of power in our government that have a dual allegiance because they're always going to pick Israel first.
They have way too much power, way too much representation in our country.
And honestly, no one that has an affinity to Israel should be in positions of power in the United States.
Because it puts us in bad situations like we are now.
Myron, we will end on this in an agreement.
Sure.
I do not think people who have a dual allegiance, or when I say dual, but they have an affinity and allegiance to Israel over America should be serving in the American military.
I mean, serving in the American politics.
I agree.
In American politics.
I do not think a person that comes out and says that they believe in Israel over America should be serving anywhere.
I will never support a person like that.
And I think there's no place in America for somebody like that.
If you live in America, America comes first.
If you Jewish, if you African, I don't care what you are, America comes first.
And so we will agree that it is a problem if people put Israel over America and they're serving in our government.
That is a problem.
And you and I both can be against that person.
Yes.
I will join you in their effort to if a person is legitimately saying I prefer Israel over America's interests.
I disavow that person.
I will never vote for that person.
And you point them out, I will shun them.
Yeah, I mean, uh I agree.
I I I think I think anyone that has a another passport or even someone that, you know, has a I don't even think people that have a tie to Israel should be in politics at all.
That's not, but that's not right because I know people, one of my friends, he got married.
Um, and he has, I think they gave him uh dual citizenship in American Israel.
Shouldn't shouldn't be.
He shouldn't serve.
No, he didn't he didn't he didn't serve anywhere.
He just he just uh he's a proud American.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that individual should never be.
You know Bryson, he raped.
Yeah, he's uh he has an Israeli citizenship.
I think they get I think they grant you Israeli citizenship when you get married by a rabbi.
Yeah, I was we were at his wedding.
I think it's a certificate.
They got a certificate where they can be.
If you got a foreign passport at all or foreign citizenship anywhere, I don't care if you go there anyway, you should not be able to serve in any type of government capacity.
I think well, let's say this.
We can agree on that.
We don't allow for any other country, by the way, just so you know.
No other country can do that.
I disagree with what you're saying, but I also think that person should be scrutinized, right?
It's skeptical if you have dual passports and you somehow have citizenship in two countries.
You should be scrutinized.
I can't say that every single person that has that situation is somebody that don't love America.
You know, Israel's like one of our one of our one of the biggest uh thieves of our technology, right?
And our intelligence.
Israel's one of the biggest thieves of our technology and our intelligence.
I don't know if that's verified.
They are.
They are and we don't and we're CIA which who whose intelligence community is bigger than there's ours.
Honestly, dude, the Masada is right there alongside us.
Yeah, but they've done more assassinations, they've been operating, you know, just as long as we're not.
Well, I mean, it's if you think they're spying on us, I bet we spied on them.
That's how we know they spy on us.
Yeah, but the difference is that they are supposed to be beholden to us.
They shouldn't be spying on us ever.
But they've been caught multiple times stealing from us, stealing our technology.
They have nuclear weapons.
You know they stole their nuclear weapon technology from us, right?
And you think we don't know what they got?
Well, yeah, we know what they got, but they they stole it from us, is the point.
No, do you think do you think we don't know how they got it, when they got it, where they got it, where they got it stored?
Do you think we don't know?
And the equipment that we give them are is anti-class.
No, no, no, they're not.
They don't have the same jets we have.
They stole it.
They don't have the same military capacity we have.
And they have to buy their stuff from us.
No, I get that, but they stole technology from us, is my point.
They have an illegal nuclear weapons program they stole from us.
Well, their spies have been caught multiple times that CIA operatives.
Andrew Bustamante and um John, I forget his last name.
He's Greek.
Both these guys are CIA.
They admitted that the two the agency that you cannot have relationships with is anyone from uh Israeli intelligence because they're so big with counterintelligence.
They steal our shit all the time.
Well, I if that's true, and I'm not gonna do it.
I can send you all my sources.
I will send you all my sources sources.
I'll send you the Netanyahu uh Oslo Accord uh uh thing where he said he was gonna destroy it in the West Bank.
I'll send you the Hannibal directive, I'll send you the numbers, all that stuff.
I'll send it to you.
All right, perfect.
All right.
All right, thanks, man.
I gotta run.
I mean, we are here two hours.
We're supposed to be just.
Yeah, yeah, no worries, no worries.
We'll have another one, uh, another discussion on the other stuff later.
All right, we gotta talk about marriage and women and let's do it, man.
We can do it next week if you want.
Polly amorous.
Polygamy.
Yeah, we can do it.
We can do it next week if you want.
All right, we'll set it up, man.
All right.
I appreciate the debate, man.
No, no, no, it's a good discussion, bro.
It's always good.
All right, see ya.
All right, brother, take it easy.
Okay, guys, we'll keep the stream going.
Uh give me one second.
All right.
So what I'll do is.
Uh oh, hold on.
Hold on, guys.
I gotta close this shit.
All right, give me one sec, guys.
We'll get that camera back on.
All right, there we go.
All right.
What do we got?
We got 10,000 of you niggas in here.
Yo, smash the like button for me, guys.
Okay.
Uh what we could do is let's start fact-checking some of the stuff that we had discussions about, right?
So, for some of you guys right here, what do you guys want me to fact check right here?
I'm gonna pull up some of the stuff and I'll actually have it ready to go, so I'll send it to them.
Because you guys know that I don't like to bullshit or whatever.
I like to have all my stuff.
So let's go first with the Netanyahu Oslo cords thing first.
So bam, here it is.
For those of you that don't that think I was lying or whatever.
Okay.
Boom.
So in this meeting, guys, this is back in the uh, this is back in the 90s, uh, where Netanyahu is admitting to sabotaging the Oslo Accords, right?
With, you know, special language and shit like that.
So let me go ahead and save this link right here.
Okay.
So I'll have this link saved.
Gonna have a little cash of stuff.
But yeah.
Here, I'll play this a little bit for you guys so you see I'm not capping here.
And here's it.
Uh, you can you guys can look at it.
How'd you guys like the debate, by the way?
How'd you guys like it?
Is that a W or what?
I felt like everything that I said, he said, it was like that's not true.
And I was like, bro.
Come on, man.
So I'm going to go ahead and pull up all the receipts for my shit.
But then it was a question, who will determine what the two-year-old men have?
I got a letter from the Kislev.
"The Alayn and the Arifat were the same." "The one that says that Israel is the one who determines what they are, the location of the military and the Gaudelaun." "They did not want to do this.
So I did not know that." "I ended up with the government and I didn't know that." "It is not possible.
Only when the letter comes, the location of the Alayn and the Arifat will be the same." All right, so this meeting, guys, is basically Netanyahu being uh secretly filmed in the West Bank talking about um the he's basically talking about the Oslo Accords and how he sabotaged them, right?
And the Oslo Accords were uh deal struck between Yasser Arafat and um Yitzhak Rabin.
Now let's talk about why the Jews uh the the um the partition plan was denied.
So Palestinian Arabs opposed the very idea of partition, but reiterated that the partition plan was unfair, the majority of the land, 56% will go to the Jewish state when Jews at that stage legally owned only six to seven percent of the land and remain a minority population, 33% in 1946.
So people always sit there and say, oh, the uh the um the Arabs are not uh they're not they're not um what's it called?
They're not fair, they're not logically sound.
Bro, how are you gonna be 30% of the population own only 6% of the land, but want 56% of this?
This isn't a fucking reasonable, okay?
This isn't fucking reasonable, right?
Nobody would accept that deal.
Okay, so that's more receipts.
Now, let me show you also, guys.
We're gonna fact check some of this stuff.
So, Max Blumenthal made a very good documentary called Atrocity Inc.
Okay.
So let me show you guys how they ran with these lies.
Okay, government press office, as well as the Biden White House.
This is right after October 7th.
So White House walk uh walks back, Biden's claim he saw the children beheaded by Hamas.
Okay, let's go back with uh pictures of terrorists be hating children.
And from there, the atrocity narrative went viral.
And this atrocity narrative was huge because Hamas knew at this point, holy shit, they're gonna destroy us.
We need to go ahead and give these hostages back.
Which let me find that article article for you guys, too.
We have tried to live next to them, and the result was beheaded babies.
If we cannot condemn evil acts, raping, murdering women, young girls, kidnapping grandmothers, beheading babies.
Israeli military and civilian officials have now confirmed to CBS News that children were among the victims beheaded in a Hamas attack on one community.
They found babies and adults decapitated and babies and adults burnt to death.
There were babies that had been beheaded.
Soldiers say some of the victims were decapitated.
They kill them and the cut some of the heads.
The children of the were beheaded, the babies that were burnt alive, that's a tragedy.
Do you care about the babies that were beheaded?
The Israeli army and government press office, as well as the Biden White House, eventually walked back and retracted these claims altogether.
Once it was plastered across the front pages of papers all across the US and Europe, the damage was already done, no matter how fabricated it might have been.
Okay, so here's more proof.
Right?
Look at this.
And this is a child that got blown a fucking smithereens.
I'm sorry, guys, that's very graphic.
Um let me show you this.
So right here.
Um we left the meeting very disappointed, and this is a person that was negotiating on behalf of the families talking to the Israeli government.
We left the meeting very disappointed because Nanya who talked about dismantling Hamas as the goal of the war, he didn't promise anything regarding the demand to return to hostages.
He merely said a military operation in Gaza was needed to serve as leverage for the hostages.
So that he goes, we later found out that Hamas had offered on October 9th or 10 to release all the civilian hostages in exchange for the IDF not entering the strip, but the government rejected the offer.
I got fucking receipts, man.
I got receipts.
Alright?
I'm gonna give all the satatum.
Okay, I'm gonna give it all the statum.
I'm not over here bullshitting.
You know, just talking.
This comes from the times of Israel.
This is a this is a Zionist fucking media organization, and this was a guy that was meeting with the government on behalf of the hostages' families.
So what does this mean?
This means that we didn't have to have an October 7th war where we have hundreds of thousands of Palestinians getting killed.
We didn't have to have these wars all across the Middle East.
We didn't have to bomb Yemen, bomb Syria, bomb Lebanon, bomb Iran.
We didn't have to do any of that shit because all of this started with October 7th.
But what did Nanyahu do?
He used these hostages to leverage a war.
And this is coming from an Israeli that talked to the Israeli government on behalf of the families.
All facts, bro.
This all facts.
Everything that I was saying is true.
I know you would say, oh, that's not true or whatever, but it is.
Right?
Now let's go ahead and look at the uh here.
Let me keep let me have this link saved as well.
I'm having all these links saved, and I'm gonna send it to him.
Right.
Here, we'll play some more of this.
All right, Pizza, those little girl.
And Israel then had all the political space it needed to carry out one sadistic act after another in the Gaza Strip.
A live stream slaughter made possible by Washington, Berlin, Brussels.
All dead kids.
And the mainstream press that functioned as these government's megaphone.
Even as the beheaded baby story was exposed as a complete and total hoax.
Israel and its proxies fed the media new tales of atrocities that were even more lurid than before.
Many of these came from one particular individual.
Yossi Landau, a religious fanatic from a self-described rescue organization known as Zaka.
Of this 1450.
This piece of shit right here, by the way, just so you guys know, this is the guy that spread the beheaded babies and babies in ovens lie from the beginning.
Because he was one of the first guys on scene because he was ticking picking up the bodies and you know, obviously getting it prepared for burial in in uh in relation to Jewish um you know ritual.
Uh and people took this lie and ran with it.
15-year-old.
We will look new.
Look at how much money he made from this shit.
Despite lacking any forensic credentials or paramedic training, Zaka volunteers were typically the first on the scene, and therefore able to make the most outlandish claims.
Yossi Landau himself said that he never actually saw any atrocities take place, but that he used his imagination to tell the stories of the bodies he found.
When we go into how using our imagination.
And what an imagination he is.
We go into the house and we use our imagination.
Bro.
And then this imagination is what led to the fucking crazy war that you guys are seeing right now.
All right, here's more receipts for you guys.
Here's the defense minister.
You have Golan himself admitting.
Admitting that they use the animal directive on that day.
And for those of you that don't know what the animal directive is, because I know a lot of you niggas might not, so I got y'all right now.
Every single time, every single crime, every single lie.
Every single hour, every single day, every single night.
I know it's hard to believe it's the whole forest, not one tree, and it's every bench and leaf.
They're born to deceive.
But I'm telling you the truth.
It's not just one or two.
It's every single Jew.
They all hate you.
So basically, guys, this is a strategic thing that they um conduct, right?
Whenever Palestinians breach or whatever, to ensure that they're not put in a very bad position.
And this comes back to what I was saying before with Galit Shalit, this guy right here.
Or was it Shalit Galat?
Yeah, Ghali Shal.
I always mispronounce it, but you guys know what I'm talking about.
This guy was an IDF soldier, and they traded a thousand Palestinians to get this fucking guy back.
Okay?
And one of the people that got back was this dude right here.
Okay.
Okay.
And this guy was obviously uh very dangerous to the IDF because he spoke Hebrew, he understood methods of the Shinbet, he understood methods of the um Mossad.
He spent 20 years in prison learning this stuff.
And and as an Arab, um, speaking Hebrew is very uh dangerous.
They don't want you to know that shit for obvious reasons.
Um but here you go.
So the Hannibal Directive, this is what it is, guys.
Um, and and you know, they say, oh no, they only use it on soldiers.
Guys, military service is mandatory in Israel.
So everyone's effectively a fucking soldier.
Okay, just so you guys know.
They worded that way to create plausible deniability.
Now, let's uh go ahead and uh talk about.
Here's you have Ghulant, right?
On this uh interview.
NASCAM was the order given to use Animal Directive.
I'm the I think tactically in some places it was.
In other places it was not, and that is a problem.
So he's saying we should have done it even more.
Bruh.
I mean, how many more?
How much more receipts do I need?
All right, what else do we need to fact check chat?
I'm gonna read super chats while you guys uh tell me uh what you guys want me to fact check.
Okay, Jay has says, uh, we know Myron isn't paid by them boys.
That's one thing Tatum can't say for himself, okay?
Uh the coolest cringe as fuck, no honest intellectual analysis, his uh vocabulary consists of disingenuous and what the fuck is Dohan?
Him making uh not making effort to educate himself, he's a little disingenuous, okay.
Sensei says, uh Robert Maxwell, joint owner to McGraw Hill.
If you're not familiar, McGraw was on the textbooks in school, okay?
Uh Glazing Gripper, shout out to you.
Top Shay says, uh, they say that kids will become terrorists, so kill them all.
Yeah, they definitely do.
Um Simon Fox says, Brandon Tatum debate strategy.
Myron, you're lying, but if you're not, uh, if you're not, the facts are wrong.
If even the facts are true, it's a war, but even if it wasn't true, so what?
By the way, have you seen Qatar?
This has to be the most dishonest debates I've been watching a while.
Clipper needs to make this go viral.
Tatum is so fucking yeah, I know.
He he would just say I was lying the whole time.
Where are the videos?
He's a visual learner, okay?
Uh Top Glazer Gripper, this dude is so retarded, doesn't realize he can get paid all the other influencers.
Okay.
Blacko uh says, um, so what Officer Talmud is saying is that uh they would only accept the Hoshes back under the conditions they found favorable.
That means they don't give a fuck about the Hashes.
Exactly.
Um Alfonso says, uh Mark, considering the Zionist pushback against the Great Awakening with their TikTok acquisition and the Jay influencers pushing the Hasbara.
Do you think um it's already too late for them?
It is late, but they have the money to censor.
Trellox says, I told you the other day to have the links and videos up and ready because he was going to ask for it, and sure enough, he has to see the video.
Ha ha.
Bro, the thing is is that I could play the video all day.
It's not gonna matter.
It's not gonna matter.
You know what I mean?
Because they don't actually want to see the video and see the see what it is.
Here's the video of the helicopters firing at the concert goers.
Thank you so much.
I was gonna find that.
Thank you, Jesus the kid 02.
I'll pull it up for the people.
Because here's the thing you guys gotta understand, bro, right?
The thing you guys gotta understand is that you're never gonna convince people, right?
Uh like he's not gonna change his mind.
He's always gonna be pro-Israel.
My job is to convince the audience.
So I'm like, okay, let me present the facts so that you guys see what's going on.
I'm not gonna change Brandon's mind.
That's fine.
My job is to change the mind of the people that are in the middle and don't know.
That's my job.
Okay.
So yeah, here's the footage right here.
I got a 100.
And I got a 100.
I got a 100.
I got a 100.
We're going to get a 100.
We're going to get a 100.
Okay.
So, yeah, look, you guys can see it right here.
Here's the proof.
Yeah, I mean, they're just firing indiscriminately.
And they were told to do so.
Thank you for that, Jesus, the kid.
You saved me some time.
I'll play a little bit, uh, let me read some more of these chats.
I'll turn the audio off, but you I'll I'll let you guys see what's going on here as they're shooting.
I'll read the chats though.
Um, when Candace got fired from Daily Wire, Tatum was asked by a shatters why he didn't side with her.
His response was was something like something like, I still value cannons, but don't follow a rat international politics enough to have an opinion.
They'll switch up this dramatically in a year as evidence he called he co-opted the Zionist propaganda.
Simon Fox says, Tatum says Israel is a tiny country the size of a pin, but we see no problem with every politician just really loving Israel.
Yeah, I know.
Spiritual connection, they literally say Jesus is burning in hell.
I know.
Tell him how Trump shit was bugged.
Yep.
Um ask Talmud Tatum if he was okay with burning the Bible in the name of the free speech maximalism only in Western Christian countries.
Send him Numek.
Yeah, I can send him that.
Uh W Bo Gentleman.
Love seeing how keeping it respectful where I'm cooking per usual.
Yeah, bro.
Like, I'm not gonna sit here and name call them.
I'm just gonna present the facts, and then it's on, you know, the audience, they could believe what they want.
Mine applaud your patience decorum in that debate.
Tatum was deflecting over half the points you made and ignoring blatant evidence.
Kudos to you, big bro, out here spreading the truth.
Yeah.
You guys, uh, you know, so about being dis uh being respectful, right?
And uh telling the truth.
Uh W Mark cooked that nigga to oblivion, bro.
It's just denying facts.
Yeah.
And honestly, dude, when it like, when they're denying facts, what are you gonna do?
Like, this is what it is.
No, that's not true.
Like, I mean, you guys have it right here.
Look, they're shooting at the fucking concert goers, bro.
So uh W. Mara cooked that nigga into oblivion, just bros the nine facts, yeah.
And And again, like I said, here's all the proof, guys.
So I told Tatum, they shot at innocent people on October 7th.
Here's the proof.
I told him that they uh activated the handler directive.
Here's the proof.
I told him that they lied about the the uh and created a whole bunch of shock.
Uh here's the proof.
Uh I said um that Netanyahu sabotaged the also cores on purpose, and he was recorded saying it.
Here's the proof.
I got receipts for all my shit.
I said that the Hannibal Directive was activated on that day for sure.
He goes, You have Galant.
There's the proof.
I said that they could have had the houses back on October 10th.
Here's the proof.
Bro, receipts on receipts on receipts.
Receipts on receipts, man.
Right.
You guys want me to uh fact check anything else here that you guys think I got wrong?
Okay, uh he got the call from Israel from BFD.
Okay.
W debate this was entertaining, unlike that white devil Destiny's bullshit.
Okay, fair enough.
Dia Chow.
Uh the political correct term for hating Jays and Christians is Jew phobia.
Okay.
Rob says, uh merch idea from Brandon Tatum, a shirt that reads all the chats lead.
Okay.
Um Tatum was insufferable listening, uh, insufferable to listen to.
It was way too loud when he interrupted, and he did it every time you're about to make a point.
It's fine.
Uh great discussion, but officer Tom Wood got cooked throughout the entire debate.
Okay.
Uh Johnny 30, 311 duck.
Myron Gaines, a little too uh fast paced debate.
Like a kid fucking for the first time, but a slower, more specific debate would be more for the thing.
Well, that's I I wanted to get a uh, I wanted to get a um a moderator, but he didn't want to do a moderator.
So, you know, it is what it is.
Uh W debate, though, it's difficult to listen to Mr. Tatum.
Fair.
Um Dion says, great debate.
A way to enhance these debates would be to have a long form Rogan-length conversation debate where you have time to pull up proof to uh to count it.
That's not true.
Cognitive dissonance you just faced.
Um we have seen these receipts by watching your content.
It discredits Brandon to have not seen a single one of your breakdown videos.
Have it, yeah, I know.
We I was actually surprised he didn't even know what the Hannibal directive was.
I was actually surprised by that.
Emac James, hey Myron, uh, you should be proud of the guys in the chat who's calling out all of his talking points before he did it.
Uh try to start the conflict 10-7 like they always do.
Of course.
BJJ Man, uh, bro, Tatum is so misinformed on topic to the point where your mind went into a flow state for a good few minutes there, and you were just basically schooling him on a topic, and he just sat there and tried to say you were wrong or lying when over seats.
I know.
Jigaboo, the whole time officer uh Tatum said that's not true.
Yeah, I know.
But never explain why.
I know.
Knightley Wisdom.
Uh critics post-debate.
I believe you should have showed him all the facts live.
Sending him later isn't gonna help much.
Show him live and watch him stutter.
Bro, it it he would have said it here's the thing.
It would have taken away from the debate, and I would have had to take time to pull it up.
Um, and again, I didn't know what topics we're gonna discuss because he didn't want to do a moderator.
So I did it all off the top of the head.
Pause.
How does Meyer know more about the Zionists and Jays more than the Zionists themselves?
That's a good question.
Um if you're sending to him, send it with your breakdown, like you've shown us he black monkey.
Oh, he cannot comprehend his own, cut it and clip it.
Hey man, I'll send it.
If he wants to read it, that's fine.
I'm not gonna lie, Tatum is just rage baiting at this point.
Nigga's hilarious.
He knows he bullshit and smiling the whole time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think so too.
That's why I wasn't too mad.
Uh phrology.
So there's something Israel might be the bank robber of America as the getaway vehicle.
Okay.
Tatum's argument on Byron Donald's was retarded.
Byron's biggest donor, Winred gave him over 1 million in 2024.
Winred was founded by Garrett Lansing.
And guess who helped him create it?
Jared Kushner and Trump.
Donald's 100% uh controlled by Israel.
Yeah.
If you look in, you can always find it.
Next time, Myron, if you're gonna commit a hate crime, just use this.
Okay.
Massive kosher W for Tom Wood Tate.
Um would be proud for confirming his control by the Jays.
Yep.
Herzel hustled the Bible better than in the rabbis, and he laughed at the God they preached.
Crazy how Tatum attempted to defend it.
I'm telling you, bro, like the whole thing about this is God's land and shit, it's all a lie.
Like Theodore Herzl was an atheist.
Uh, Myron Gaines, a little too fast.
Okay, I think I'm caught up on the chats then.
All right, cool, cool, cool.
Uh Hollow Points says phenomenal job, Myron.
I appreciate it.
Uh, great respectable debate.
You were like 90% right on the deportation, but I was told visa holders can pr can't protest.
Can we fact check that?
Sure.
Sure.
So here's the thing.
And actually, this just came up.
Kyle Kalinski actually made a good video on this.
This is one thing that the um Democrats have right.
So a judge literally ruled on this.
news here coming out of the courts let me walk you through it so u_s_ district judge william young rules that the trump administration's efforts to deport non-citizens for protesting the war in gaza is unconstitutional so this is the guy right here understand something he is a ronald reagan appointee A very conservative judge.
And this guy took one look at it and said, Oh, it's very obvious what you're doing.
You're trying to take away people's free speech rights because you don't like that they're pro-Palestine.
You don't like that they're critical of Israel.
That's completely and utterly unacceptable.
So Judge Young, a federal judge, finds that the Trump administration's policy targeting pro-Palestinian students for deportations violated the First Amendment.
His blistering 161-page ruling starts with a threat he received in Chainsaw.
And then look at this, guys.
Literally, this just landmark ruling.
This just came out September 30th, 2025.
Look at this.
In landmark ruling, federal court says Trump administration violated First Amendment by arresting attempted to deport foreign citizens for pro-Palestinian advocacy.
So Judge William G. of the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts today ruled that the Trump administration's policy of arresting, detaining, and deporting non-citizen students and faculty members for their pro-Palestinian advocacy violates the First Amendment.
The ruling comes after a two-week trial in the case brought by the Knight's First Amendment Institute at Columbia University, partnering with Shorah Tremonte, LLP, on behalf of American Association of University Professors and the Middle East Students Association.
It was the first major trial of Trump's second term.
Father Marcelloso alleged the Trump administration's ideological deportation policy violates the First Amendment and is unconstitutional.
There you go.
Literally just passed a couple days hot off the press, man.
So, uh...
...cambles and his response.
So he got something sent to him on June 19th, 2025.
And it said, um, Trump has pardons and tanks.
What do you have?
In other words, this is somebody in MAGA threatening the judge, saying, you don't have any power anymore.
You better just go along with what the emperor says.
Know your role and shut your mouth, is what MAGA is saying.
Fucking be a good little bitch to Trump.
Cuck yourself to him.
And he actually responded to the person.
He said, Dear Mr. and Mrs. Anonymous, Alone, I have nothing but my sense of duty.
Together, we the people of the United States, you and me, have our magnificent constitution.
Here's how that works out in a specific case.
So responding and saying, Look, man, uh we have the constitution.
That's what matters.
And that's what I'm going to fight for.
This is a thundering ruling by senior U.S. District Judge William Young, a Reagan appointee.
He writes that it's perhaps the most important case.
And guys, there's other case law that shows this.
I mean, I've been saying this for like over a year.
Look, you guys know me, bro.
Like, I'm not no fucking liberal.
I'm not no democrat, you know, I'm probably further right than your favorite right wing fucking um commentator.
But when it comes to the first amendment, you gotta protect the first amendment.
And the reality is first amendment rights of non citizens, aliens, right?
Um course the aliens are entitled to lesser first amendment.
That was wrong.
Right.
Um or this is what they tried to argue.
But the reality is legal aliens enjoy first amendment rights, one situated for law for the United States, aliens enjoy first amendment rights.
This counts if you're a visa holder, green card holder, even if you're illegally.
You still have the right to speak freely.
Like, it is what it is, man.
Here's a big case right here.
Um Bridges versus Wixon, this is one that I talked about quite a bit.
And long story short, they tried to deport this guy because he had affiliations with communism, right?
Back in the 1950s, guys, just so y'all know, post-World War II, communism is what basically terrorism is today.
If you were communist back then, it was a big problem.
Um and they thought that he was a um who's a communist, and uh they found that like no, his free speech is not gonna be impeded as a green card holder, and uh yeah.
So plenty of case law on this.
And then we just saw, obviously, the big court ruling that I just showed you guys before.
And that came like two days ago.
...case in his jurisdiction and writes more than a dozen pages on justice in the Trump era focused on Trump's bullying and retribution.
He seems to be winning, he ignores everything, and he keeps bullying ahead.
Everything above in this section is necessary background to frame the problem this president has with the first amendment.
Where things run off the rails for him is his fixation with retribution.
I am your retribution, he thundered famously while on the campaign trail.
Yeah, government retribution.
You guys are saying what?
Um Mike Oxlong says, Thanks for clearing that up.
You're a hundred percent right.
Bro, I'm telling you, man.
Guys, I I have receipts for everything that I say.
Uh Bren Gore Graper says Tatum said in his recent video that someone needs to kick Nick's butt and debate and that he is a fake Christian if he is so confident that Nick would lose.
Why not debate him?
Great stuff, Myron, keep it up.
Here's a clip.
Okay, I appreciate that, bro.
I appreciate that.
I didn't see that clip.
Um let's see here.
Um the numbers about all your talking points.
What do you mean by that?
Um make a chart you have all uh you have at all times about all your talking points.
There were times where Tatum said numbers and you're a little slow about it.
Make a chart you'll be unstoppable.
I mean, I'm not gonna have all the numbers memorized, but um Palestinians owned forty two percent of the land in nineteen forty seven Jews own six seven percent of land.
Russ of British.
Yeah, I I know I showed that already.
Um absolute fire debate.
Glad that you liked it.
Um equals four.
Tatum, that's not true, Myron.
It's literally facts.
Yeah, I know, bro.
I know.
I know.
...for speech, precisely what happened here, is directly forbidden by the First Amendment.
For all these reasons, this court finds as fact and conclusion...
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Hold on.
Because you guys know I'm demonetized for this shit because you can't run around and say America's controlled by Jews without getting fucking banned, as you guys already know.
So.
Oh, also, tomorrow, guys, I'm going to be out on the streets debating tomorrow.
Okay?
Tomorrow is going to be street debates, baby.
Okay?
I can't say where, but it's going to be live.
It's going to be unique.
No one's done it yet.
It's going to be a good-ass time.
So tomorrow, I'm going to be out debating.
I'm probably going to be out there at like midnight, though, guys.
It's going to be late.
But I promise you guys, you're going to like it why I'm there.
You guys are absolutely going to like why.
tomorrow.
Someone said, oh, bro, are you crazy?
Bro, I'm not a bitch-ass nigga, bro.
I'm going to be out there.
We're going outside, baby.
We're going to be outside.
We're going to be live as well.
So, yeah.
All right, let's finish watching this whole thing with the freedom of speech.
This concludes as a matter of law that Secretaries Noam and Rubio and their several agents and subordinates acted in concert to misuse the sweeping powers of their respective offices to target non-citizen pro-Palestinians for deportation, primarily on account of their First Amendment protected political speech.
They did so in order to strike fear into similarly situated non-citizen pro-Palestinian individuals proactively and effectively curbing lawful pro-Palestinian speech and intentionally denying such individuals, including the plaintiffs here, The freedom of speech that is their right.
Moreover, the effect of these targeted deportation proceedings continues unconstitutionally to chill freedom of speech to this day.
So look, guys, my only issue with what happened here is we all knew that this was the correct result.
We all knew that.
Everybody knows that.
Everybody fucking knows that.
But it keeps it takes so long to so they ruin somebody's life.
Think of Mahmood Khalil or Rumesa Os Turk.
They ruin somebody's life, they lock them up for an extended period of time, they try to kick him out of the fucking country.
They do all these things to make their life a living fucking hell, knowing all along all of this is unconstitutional and illegal.
Then eventually, fucking six months later, eight months later, you get a judge who's like...
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like 7,000 smash the like button for me guys subscribe to the channel if you're new here I cover news and all types of shit you know we cover as you guys could tell Uh this is why I'm demonetized because I talk about them boys quite a bit.
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Yeah, I can't do that.
That shit is wildly unconstitutional.
But what do they do?
They keep going as if this ruling didn't occur, right?
They'll pick some new person who's pro-Palestine to fuck them up, to ruin their life, to try to deport them.
Legal citizens, people here on work visas, fucking everybody's got protection, everybody's got free speech in this country.
That's the way the constitution works.
It's not like, oh, if you're an immigrant, it doesn't count.
Yes, it fucking does.
Yes, it does.
No if anger much about it.
So the thing that's frustrating to me is if the judge says this and then.
And here's the thing, guys.
Like, you guys know I used to work in immigration.
If I arrested a guy, right, and he was an illegal alien, and he said some shit about like the president or whatever, he still has the right to free speech, even though he's here illegally.
He still gets due process.
If an illegal alien gets caught in America committing a crime, they still get due process chat.
They still get all the rights, whether they're here legally or not.
Your status in America does not dictate whether you get due process and uh whether you get for um constitutional protections.
You get it no matter what.
Okay?
That's another thing that I see people say all the time, like, oh yeah, he's not a citizen, so they don't get free speech.
Bro, that is literally retarded.
That is literally retarded whenever people say that.
I'm like, holy shit.
And it's a lot of conservatives that say it.
And here's the thing, bro.
You guys already know.
One of the biggest criticisms that we get on the right is for being stupid.
That's why when I do these debates, when I am articulating myself, et cetera, I do my best to not come off as a retard because you never know who's watching.
And I know some of you guys are saying, yo, you should have been meaner, he was cutting you off, blah, blah, blah.
No.
Because my thing is, I know someone's probably watching this debate.
Shout out to um SWF Lavender.
I know someone's watching the debate, and they're probably in the middle and they don't know a lot of the stuff that I'm gonna talk about.
If I come off and I'm just a dickhead and be an asshole for no reason, uh sorry, shout out to you, Dark Knight Kevel.
Like, you lose credibility.
So I want it where anyone that's listening could be like, okay, that makes a point.
Okay, boom.
Your job isn't to convince the person you're debating.
Your job is to convince the audience.
Okay.
And, you know, as long as I got you guys like, if you learn something, or you're like, wow, I didn't know that, or whatever, then I did my job.
That is my job.
It's to educate you guys on the topic at hand, right?
I think I made a stronger, I think I made a stronger argument um showing how uh number one, we shouldn't be uh uh uh supporting Israel.
Number two, how neocons dragged us into wars in the early 2000s.
Um, how Israel doesn't actually want peace and starts issues all over the place, and um why we should just cut aid all together.
You know, that was my position.
Uh, real quick we're a message from our uh sponsors, aka myself, because uh you know your boy go get no sponsor because you know they don't like me too much.
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Instagram, they demonetized me on YouTube, they banned me on Facebook, they banned me on Twitch, the ADL and the SPLC put me on their hit list as well as media matters.
That tells you everything you need to know.
They don't want you to hear what I have to say.
And that's exactly why the OSS army exists.
The OSS is my uncensored army where the truth prevails over all the lies.
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Uh support the mission.
It's how I'm able to continue uh running operations uh for Fresh of Fit, OSS, et cetera.
Uh well, the debrief, the show of the debrief.
So I'm able to run operations still, uh, even though I've been demonetized on YouTube for two years.
Because YouTube obviously um does not support free speech, and it's run by uh your boys, obviously.
And here's the other thing too.
Like, people think I'm crazy when I say that uh these niggas run YouTube and they run everything else.
Look, hold on one second, man.
Let me let me.
We're gonna have some fun with this.
Cause people think I'm just like a conspiracy theorist when I say this shit.
But the reality is they absolutely run these big tech companies.
Okay?
I'll see you next time.
I'm happy to see you next time.
Bye.
Thank you.
every single time, every single crime, every single lie, every lie, every single hour, every single day, every single night, every lie.
I know it's hard to believe it's the whole forest, not one tree, and it's every bench and leave.
They're born to deceive.
But I'm telling you the truth.
It's not just one or two, it's every single Jew.
They all hate you, and it really breaks my heart, but turn off the charge, and they only bring a smile.
If I get small.
So if you want to be safe and don't want to get the changed, it's best you start being based.
Or you'll get it right every single time, every single crime, every single lie, every lie, every single hour, every single day, every single night.
YouTube, Google, Instagram, and Facebook, aka meta.
You know what I mean?
It's like they run all of it, dude.
They run all of it.
And and um, you know, the reality is, um, you know, prior to October 7th, you talk about any of this stuff, you would get banned.
Now, you could talk about it a little bit more, but you know, they call it hate speech and shit like that.
So, and then yeah, Larry Ellison, the guy that just picked up TikTok.
Every single time, every single time, every single lie.
Every single hour, every single day, every single night.
Like, yo, yeah, every single time, bro.
And then they sit here and they say, Oh, yo, you're you're a conspiracy theorist or you're crazy or whatever.
This guy just got TikTok.
Literally.
You know?
And why'd he buy your TikTok?
Because obviously people were complaining.
Jonathan Greenblatt was fucking freaking out from the ADL.
Oh, yeah, thank God.
The FBI got rid of uh is uh denouncing the ADL.
Thank fucking God.
Okay.
The ADL is the worst organization.
It's a it's a far-left organization that is pro-censorship that fucking gets people banned.
They were a big part of me getting banned or getting demonetized.
They write articles on you, they call you an anti-semite, they lobby to get you banned, and they also call these contact these um social media companies and try to get you banned.
And if you guys are wondering how the ADL was started, it was started to defend a Jewish rapist.
It's not my fault that I have to do this.
You only pick on me because I'm Jewish being a jealous loser and go get a job.
I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God.
I can do what I want because I'm chosen by God.
If I don't run your media, someone else will.
If I don't edit Wikipedia, someone else will.
If I don't limit your reach, someone else will.
If I don't censor speech, come on else will.
If I don't blow up your kids.
If I don't attack you at shit, someone else will.
If I don't steal your things Someone else will If I don't run pedo rings It's not my fault that I have to do this You only pick on me because I'm you wish to be.
And then another crazy part too, right?
Was um when he said, Oh yeah, O Myron.
Um remember when he said that I said some shit about like uh uh that they didn't start all the wars.
You guys wanna go down that rabbit hole?
Here, uh this is just a fact check after the debate.
All right, let's get off uh YouTube.
Guys, come on over to Rumble.
Come on over to Rumble, because what I'm about to show y'all, they're gonna get mad.
Come on over to Rumble.
Rumble and kick.
Time to switch on over.
Rumble and kick, niggas.
Rumble and kick.
Rumble and kick.
I got to get up the fuck off YouTube after this.
Honestly.
You gotta get the fuck off YouTube after this.
Let me go ahead and give you guys some of the links.
Rumble or kick, so I can really go into here.
I'm gonna show you guys how these motherfuckers get us in all the wars as well.
Alright.
Come on over, niggas.
It's rumble time.
It is rumble time.
Yo, mod, spam the rumble and kick link.
If you guys can't watch on uh rumble, come to kick.
Come to kick if you guys can't watch on Rumble.
Okay.
Bam.
I'm pinning it for you guys right now.
We're getting off of uh off YouTube.
You niggas know what time it is when we're about to get off YouTube.
You niggas know what time it is, man.
You niggas know what time it is, man.
Yup, fuck YouTube, honestly.
Fuck those O Slash in the sky, motherfucker.
We're going to rumble and kick so we can get real over here.
We're gonna talk about the wars that these guys drop, put us in.
We're gonna talk about uh the Middle Eastern wars, we're gonna talk about 9-11, we're gonna talk about all that shit.
Can't talk, do it on fucking YouTube for obvious reasons though.
Get those old slash in the sky time to switch over, niggas.
rumble.com slash maringadesx or kick.com slash maringadesx let's go Real nigga timing!
*music*
Wait, hold on, hold on.
Is this shit the clean version?
Nah, bro.
That's gay!
I said you ain't die, I said you ain't die Telling me that I'm bullying.
I'm not just a badly.
There we go.
Let's fucking go, man.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Time to go off, guys.
Or get off YouTube Rumble time right now.
Come on over to kick or to Rumble or OSS ending the YouTube stream now.
Some niggas that went to that island.
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