We are live on a couple of platforms, X, even on my YouTube, etc.
Guys that are watching from my YouTube, we're not going to be on here long.
I'm just kind of doing this so you guys know that we're live because I've been telling you guys about this interview for a minute.
And yeah, we're going to switch to Roman Get Real here very soon.
But any announcements or just welcome back to Hayden, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, yo, what's up, bro, man?
Welcome to the show, man.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for having me.
Had a ton of fun on Monday.
Some of those clips went viral.
I saw that was good.
I got you, brother.
Yeah.
9A1, you saw when you said the Handware Pass?
That went super viral.
Yeah, yeah.
That was good.
Yeah, right before I said it, you were like, everyone quiet.
He's going to go.
He did it, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's crazy.
I let it rip.
Yeah, I was waiting for the right time to drop that.
I think that worked out.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So for those that might not be familiar with who you are or your work, and they probably also don't know all your work that you did behind the scenes, like me and you discussed, can you kind of introduce yourself to the people?
Yes.
I have an Instagram account called Woman Propaganda.
I make Instagram reels spreading racism, sexism, and other things online.
But before I, then I saw that this is a personal brand I started six months ago.
I grew that account from zero to a million followers on Instagram in five months.
The reason I was able to do that so quickly and have so much success like that in a short period of time is because I've been doing social media for four years now.
I was running other people's social medias.
I've worked for Alex Stein, Elijah Schaefer, Gavin McInnis.
Still work for Gavin McInnis.
Oh, Gavin's coming on the show soon, guys.
Thank you for putting me in touch with him.
You guys have been asking for a minute, by the way.
We're making it happen.
Sorry.
That'll be a good episode.
Gavin's one of the OG red pill guys.
When he comes, come down.
Cool.
Yes.
Yeah, I will.
Come down.
Oh, we all got a party.
Yes.
Gavin's Gavin would go to the strip club with you, I'm pretty sure.
Well, he'll go with Fresh and shit.
We'll go with Fresh for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
You're all welcome to come, you know.
He's Gavin's great.
But Gavin was in 2016, I was in college.
I think I was a freshman in college.
Trump had just won, and then the liberals lost their minds.
And then that's when I started waking up.
That's when the whole white people racist.
I mean, the white people are racist thing.
That's been a thing for a long time.
But in 2016, I think that's when we saw liberals really begin to just become freaks and call.
Would you agree?
Do you recall?
Dude, yeah.
I'm hiding power levels because we're on YouTube here for a second.
So, but what I do want to say, because I love that you got into that.
Can you kind of take us through your upbringing real quick?
You're 30 years old.
Like, where you grew up, you know, how you were a church guy at first and everything, if you could just take us through that.
Because I think that's really important for them to realize.
Yeah, so I was born in 1995 in Encinitas, California.
Grew up evangelical Christian.
So a Charlie Kirk kind of Christian, Zionist Christian.
But I had very conservative parents.
Yeah, very conservative parents.
I was taught growing up that Jews are the chosen people.
But evangelicals still love Jesus.
So I'm very grateful for my upbringing.
And I was a very serious Christian for a long time.
I was doing everything right.
I was a youth group leader for eight years.
I was waiting until I was married to have sex.
That was very important to me.
I was told that that's how you got to do it.
So I'm 30 now.
I did not lose my virginity until I was 23 years old.
And I could have lost it sooner.
I did have offers.
I was popular in high school.
I won Prom King in high school.
I was a funny guy.
There were girls that wanted me, and I said, no, I'm not having sex with you.
Some girls thought I was like gay because I wouldn't have sex with them.
No way.
Literally, oh, yeah, I got that accusation a few times.
Like, you're not going to have sex with me.
Are you gay?
I was like, no, I'm not gay.
I'm an evangelical Christian.
Let's go.
And so I took it seriously for a long time.
And I thought I was going to get married when I was like 18, 19 years old.
And then I'm getting older.
I'm 23.
And one day I'm looking around at church and I'm like, man, a lot, me and all my buddies were virgins at church.
And I'm looking at the girls there.
And none of the girls there are virgins.
And then, even worse, the girls there are not even interested in the guys at church.
The Christian girls don't like the Christian guys.
So I know you got red-pilled on, you know, culture and race in 2016 or whatever, but is that what red-pilled you when it came to dating and relationships?
No.
What red-pilled you on that?
Was you know, I would say Gavin McInnes and then Sam Hyde.
Shout out Sam Hyde.
Those were the guys I found on YouTube who where I kind of started learning the truth about women.
Because yeah, I was lied to at church, frankly.
So those two were red pilled.
So how old were you roughly when you found their content starting getting red-pilled on this topic?
It was probably 20 years old.
So 10 years ago.
Yeah.
Okay.
About 10 years ago.
And I didn't, I didn't lose my virginity until I was 23, but I did other stuff.
I was making out with girls.
I got a blowjob or two, something like that.
Didn't go all the way until I was 23.
But yeah, I started getting red-pilled and learning the truth about women probably when I was around 20 years old.
And they're giving bad advice to the young men at church, saying, be nice.
You know, God's going to provide you a godly woman, meet a girl at church.
And it just didn't work out like that for me or most of the guys at church.
There were girls at church who were like fat or not cute.
I could have got married one of them, but I was not interested in them.
The cute girls at church were not into me.
So at one point, I got sick of it and I just said, okay, screw this.
If I'm not going to getting a virgin wife is impossible.
It's just like not even an option.
And I was like, well, if that's not an option, then at the very least, I can't be a virgin marrying a non-virgin.
So that's when I went out and had some sex.
Lost my virginity to a Jewish girl.
Shout out, Jews.
There's some, I appreciate that.
Name was Sarah.
Very nice girl.
And yeah, and then I kind of went wild for a period of time after that.
And I caught up for.
Question or brother.
Was it a thumbs up?
Yeah.
Was it really a kosher?
Was it kosher?
Yeah.
Well, they're the chosen people.
I mean, I was still like a very much evangelical Christian back then.
It was crazy.
I was told Jews are the best.
Jews are the chosen people.
My church would take mission trips to Israel every summer.
And then there's a lot of Jews in San Diego.
We're just south of Hollywood.
Lots of Jews.
I think 90,000 Jews in San Diego.
I went to high school with a bunch of Jews.
Wow.
And I thought Jews were great.
I was told they're great.
And I had Jewish friends, but the Jewish friends at my high school were all ultra-liberal and just seemed to not like Christians.
They'd make fun of me all the time for believing in Jesus and all that.
And I'm like, dang, I think you guys are the best.
I think you guys are God's chosen people.
And apparently you guys think I'm a retard.
So I don't know.
It was very interesting.
I'm still a Christian, but I definitely do not subscribe to the Christian Zionist evangelical thing anymore.
We're going to definitely talk about that here.
Guys, we're going to get off YouTube pretty soon here.
We're hiding power levels, as you guys can tell.
But yeah, we're live on Marin Gainsax, Rumble, Fresh and Fit, everything else like that.
But sorry, keep going.
Catch you up to speed really quick.
Yeah, so Trump won.
Liberals started losing their minds.
This is when I started realizing, oh man, a large percentage of the population is retarded.
And then, oh, Chad's telling me to fix my hair.
And then in 2020, COVID happened.
And I thought COVID was a scam day one.
I thought it was very obviously a scam.
I couldn't believe everyone fell for it.
I could forgive you if you fell for COVID for the first two weeks, but it went on for two years.
People wore masks for two fucking years.
There was little kids wearing masks at school all day, every day for two years straight.
I think that's child abuse.
So that's when I really realized most people are, I don't know what to call it, not smart or brainwashed or whatever.
And then Andrew Tate blew up in, was it 2021 or 2022?
Yeah, 2022, we had him on in 2021.
He started blown by 22.
Yeah.
So when Andrew Tate blew up, I became addicted to the Andrew Tate content immediately, consumed probably 30, 40 hours of Andrew Tate content.
Then I signed up for Hustlers University.
And then I took, I was an accountant at the time, had a college degree, graduated from San Diego State with a degree in finance.
Then I knew I wanted to work for myself, didn't know how.
And I joined Hustlers University.
And then I took their social media marketing boot camp.
And that's when I learned social media.
So I was one of the guys making the Andrew Tate edits.
I made 450 Andrew Tate edits in three months, got like 100 million views on Andrew Tate videos.
I had all these different Andrew Tate accounts on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube.
And after that, I was like, okay, I know how to clip.
I know how to go viral.
So I was, and then I've been clipping ever since.
I've worked for Let's pull up his Instagram real quick.
I want these guys to see his work because you guys have been able to grow at a monstrous rate.
Very impressive, especially on Instagram, which is what I consider like a fake social media app.
But you guys actually have a real audience on there.
Like Instagram is, you're one of the few people I've seen that has like a big Instagram following and has been able to convert that also to like long-form content.
Not many people can do it.
Thank you.
But we know Instagram's controlled by a female.
Yeah.
So here's his Instagram guys.
Give him a follow if you guys aren't already.
I've done many collabs.
I actually just filmed what, 20 to 30 videos today?
Those are coming out soon.
Yeah.
Some of those will go viral.
We got some really good stuff last night.
Yeah, I'm excited.
I haven't even looked through the footage yet, but we got a lot of good stuff.
And you can see just all the reels like doing big numbers and stuff like that.
I think everyone that we did had over a million.
So, you know, he had Gypsy Crusader on me, et cetera.
Lots of funny shit.
But yeah, he's been doing this a while.
So keep going.
My bad.
So I'm a clipper-turned influencer.
Kanye West was a producer-turned rapper.
I'm a clipper-turned influencer.
I was making other people famous.
And then, and other people do a three-hour live stream, and then their clipper goes, watches the whole thing and tries to make a clip.
And what I said is, how about I skip the three-hour live stream and I just make the clip?
Because as a clipper, I'm looking for what to clip.
I'm looking for the moment that's going to go viral.
I have an eye for what's going to hit.
Oh, this will do numbers on Instagram.
This will do numbers on YouTube.
This will do numbers on TikTok.
I know what clip is going to hit.
And I was like, I should just skip the, I don't need to do a whole show.
I can just make the clip.
So that's basically what my content is: is trying to make viral clips.
And that's the way short form, you know, is one of the best ways to do it: Instagram, TikTok.
Even though we always get killed on TikTok, but that's a whole other.
Yeah, I gave up on sometimes.
People repost my videos on TikTok and sometimes they blow up, but I just gave up every time I make a TikTok account.
I get banned after a few posts.
Ridiculous, dude.
Those cowards over at TikTok.
I'm not impressed.
But yeah, so we've had a bunch of different clients.
We probably had 5 billion views just clipping for other people before we started making our own content.
Let me ask you this: for someone that wants to get out there and do that, right?
Because there is, you know, you can make great success doing this.
What are some of the things that you're, what are the top three things you would say that they need to learn and top three things they need to avoid getting into this game if they want to do editing for a new creator or want to get into this space?
How would you, what would you advise someone now that you've been through it and did it yourself?
If you want to get into it and learn it yourself, you could just, I'd say the best way to do it is just to make an Instagram account and just find funny podcasts or watch any podcast, find a funny clip, and make an edit out of it.
You could sign up for Hustlers University and take their social media marketing course or they have lessons on how to do video editing.
But you don't need, you just need a laptop and an internet connection and an iPhone probably.
And you could get started getting into this.
And I would say make your own Instagram account.
You can make a meme page.
And then if you have a meme page and you get 10,000 followers and you have some videos that went viral, you can then start reaching out to people and saying, hey, I'm a video editor.
I do clips.
I know how to make things go viral.
Can I clip for you?
Well, you can find someone.
Let's say you want to work for Bradley Martin.
Okay.
You could go watch his show on YouTube, download it, make clips from it, keep them under a minute, 20 to 50-second clips, and then post it yourself on Instagram.
And then if it does well, you know, have your own Instagram account where make an Instagram account, call it fun podcast clip, something like that.
And post a Bradley Martin clip.
And then if it does well, you can DM it to Bradley Martin and say, hey, I made this clip.
Do you like it?
I can make more clips for you.
It doesn't have to be Bradley Martin, just using him as an example.
Dude, that's a bro.
You're giving these guys a lot of sauce.
This is actually very important.
Which, you know, we're giving education and the racism after.
And then if you just want to, if you don't want clients, if you just want to make money, no clients, not talking to anybody, you can just do a YouTube channel, get monetized on YouTube, and make YouTube shorts.
And they'll pay you.
The monetization standards are really low, especially for shorts, like what's considered fair use.
If you could just take a podcast clip, make a few cuts, add captions, add some music, and it's considered original content.
And if you get 10 million views, then you can monetize your YouTube channel.
And, you know, you could, at one point, I was making $4,000 or $5,000 a month just on YouTube shorts.
Oh, wow.
And it costs me nothing.
I just need a laptop and a phone, and no expenses, no overhead costs.
I'm getting $5,000 a month from my YouTube shorts.
Now, that being said, I had to make like 2,000 clips before I was good enough to make $4,000 or $5,000.
So the barrier to entry is not as simple as you need a laptop and an iPhone.
I had to put hours and hours and hours.
Yeah.
I would say if you make 600 clips, you're good.
And then if you make 1,000 clips, you maybe at that point you're a pro.
And then for me to get to a point where I can consistently make four or five thousand a month on YouTube, maybe I needed to make like 2,000 clips.
At this point, I've probably made 10,000 clips.
But now I make my own content.
I'm not really making clips anymore, but that's how I learned all this stuff.
Yeah, I started out.
I made 450 Andrew Tate edits in three months.
I was doing like six Andrew Tate edits a day.
You know, you're going to be bad at first.
I made a lot of videos that flopped.
And I'll look back at them and be like, oh, yeah, I was terrible.
But that's fine.
You start out, not good.
Make an anonymous account.
You know, you don't need to put your face on it.
It's if you have a video that if you make a cringe video, no big deal.
The account's anonymous.
Clipping is a very viable way to get into social media, man.
I think a lot of people overlook that, like, Andrew Tate started that thing where the strategy of getting multiple people to repost your content everywhere where you just take over the algorithm.
That was something that he pioneered.
And now it's kind of, I've seen so many influencers do it.
It's gotten so crazy, guys, that, I mean, I think me and you have talked about this.
It's gotten to a point where, like on Twitter, for example, some of the biggest clipper pages, these influencers, like Kai Snat and Ampia, whatever, they pay these clippers to only post their stuff and not post anyone else.
That's how important clipping is.
It's the new way to do it.
You look cooler when it's other people posting your clips a lot of the times, you know?
If you're posting your own video, it's like, yeah, of course you are posting your own video.
I need a lint roller show.
We got some.
Yeah, that is pretty cringe posting your own videos.
So let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
What would you say is the ideal amount of clippers reposting your stuff to blow up?
Two, three, four, ten?
You know, it kind of depends.
You need good content to begin with.
Yeah.
I'm a great clipper, and there's some people.
Thanks, man.
Yeah, there we go.
Geez.
There's some people I clipped for, and it was easy to make them go viral.
When I was making the Andrew Tate edits, you know, it was not so hard to get numbers.
Oh, I'm the number one Jesse Lee Peterson clipper in the world.
Oh, tell them about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've gotten a billion views for Jesse Lee Peterson.
If you've seen an edit or a clip of Jesse Lee Peterson, there's a very good chance you've seen something that I've made.
So the original content is the most important part.
80% of clipping is just finding a good video.
It's like you, with editing, you can take a B clip to an A clip.
You can take an A clip to an S tier clip, but you can't take like an F clip to an A clip.
Gotcha.
With editing, you can just like boost it up a grade or two.
If you're really good, you know, you can take a B clip to an A plus clip.
But the real skill set is knowing what is going to go viral.
The real skill set is just finding a good original clip.
And the internet is huge.
There are, there's plenty.
You can go into the archives of, you know, all sorts of different YouTube channels.
There's always clips to find.
I was making money.
That's how I made money for like a whole year was just finding clips on YouTube and then editing them enough that they'd be considered fair use by YouTube standards and then post them and get paid for it.
So, but yeah, what was the question?
How many clippers should you have to take over the algorithm?
Oh, well, so I was just saying, first of all, you just need good content.
If your content sucks, you can have 100 clippers.
It doesn't matter.
Your content sucks.
If your content is good, then, oh, I don't know.
Maybe five clippers would do the trick.
I'm not even sure.
Yeah.
I mean, even 10 clippers sounds excessive to me.
If you had five different big clip channels.
Hard to say, though.
I mean, maybe there's no limit to the number.
Nick Fuentes has hundreds of people posting Nick Fuentes clips, and the videos go viral all the time.
So are you saying that it's actually the creator that matters, not really the channel, so to speak?
The creator matters more.
I mean, a good clipper can take you a long ways.
There's a Jewish woman I used to work for named Elle, Tacos and Schwarma, on Instagram.
I made her famous.
She would have gotten no views ever without me.
Wait a minute.
She does the.
Didn't she do a cloud with Mr. Organic?
Yes.
There you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, who is this lady with this podcast?
So that was you.
I made her famous.
Yes.
Oh, wow.
She would have not.
Yeah, she's buying a lot of people, bro.
Bruh.
Yeah, yeah, she would be, she'd be nothing without me.
But literally, her Instagram.
I think so too.
There you go.
No, I'm not exaggerating.
Her Instagram page had 200 followers and she had no idea what she was doing.
And then she paid me to make clips for her.
I made some clips from her podcast, and I was able to get a few to go viral.
I probably got her 100 million views in two months.
Is it hard to make women go viral if they're not selling themselves sexually, pretty much?
She had big boobs, and kind of her boobs would be out in a lot of the videos, so that was good.
Yeah, if, I mean, I don't know, if a girl's not hot, that's a lot harder.
Go viral.
Got to have something going for her.
Yeah, big boobs or face card something.
But yeah, I made her famous.
So a clipper, yeah, a good clipper that knows what he's doing will make all the difference.
You, yeah, I mean.
You could have good content, but if you don't know how to do short-form content, then you're not going to grow.
So a clipper is an expert in short-form content.
Yeah.
I guess what you'd say.
And highlighting someone else's longer form content.
So I get you.
Okay.
Should we read some chests and switch over?
Sure.
Okay, guys.
You know, I gave you guys an educational portion.
Now we're going to get into the real stuff.
So, guys, get your questions in.
Because I know a lot of you guys want to do this.
So this is actually really valuable information for you guys.
Yeah, starting from Zero, especially.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he was able to grow his channel in just a few months to over a million or his Instagram.
All right.
What do we got here?
All right.
Hayden, you grab some more bloops tonight.
Possible motorboat went.
One of the ladies added the after hours tonight.
Okay.
Narwhal, Narwhal swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion because they were so awesome.
TNS.
Okay.
That's from TNS Graper.
All right, that's it.
Cool.
So I think we can make the switch now.
Rumble time?
Yeah.
So guys, come on over to, we'll drop the Rumble link.
We're going to be live on Rumble for Fresh and Fit.
Nat Meyer Gaines X, guys, Fresh and Fit Rumble.
We just kind of went live here so you guys knew what was going on.
And we also got after ours as well on Fresh and Fit for.
Yo, last show was hilarious, though.
Hayden went in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's gonna be great.
He's dropping some bones, bro.
That's funny as hell.
I'm not gonna lie.
Shout out to you, bro.
That was fire.
Thanks, dog.
Fire clips.
Fire clips.
Let me know what we're on.
But yeah, guys, we're dropping.
I'm going to drop the Rumble link for you guys in here too, man.
You know, gave you all some value from the money-making standpoint, but now we're going to get into the more spicy stuff, man.
What's your friend made clipping someone's content?