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July 10, 2025 - MyronGainesX
01:57:47
1 "Toxic Alpha" VS 9 Miami Models DEBATE!
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And we are live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the Fresh Podcast.
After our dish, we're joining something with a couple of different lovely ladies, and uh, we got something different for you guys.
We're gonna do one conservative versus nine Miami ladies.
Let's get into it.
Let's go!
Let's go!
All right, and we are back.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to Fresh Podcast After Hours Disney, man.
We're joining with some lovely ladies.
Got something a little bit different, man.
If uh you know, this is the test experiment uh part.
If it goes well, then we'll, you know, keep doing these in the future.
But hey, man, we're about to put Jubilee out of business.
Uh, Chris, you got anything?
Oh.
So I look where we're doing this shit.
But shout to the chat, shout out to you guys.
Um, you know, I want a little bit more girls, but you know, girls be flaking like, you know, whatever, like nobody's business.
So we do a live.
I see why I do not do a live, man.
They precord a shit and they fucking you know, and they you know, I'm sure they do some fuck shit.
Yeah, it's and shit.
So, yeah, anyways, uh W chat bro, nobody does any of this shit live.
Yeah, bro, it's crazy.
And you know what?
Guys, guess what?
No fresh.
I'm surprised he's not here.
I thought he was going to show up.
I mean, I said fresh.
If you want to show up, you know, let me know.
But fresh?
No, fresh second of break, bro.
So y'all ninjas can't complain about fresh now.
That's true.
I am sober, by the way.
Yeah.
Also, you guys are probably gonna notice that the cameras are probably gonna be a little bit better.
I'm already noticing it.
We got T PC films in the house here.
With um setting up the cameras and a different angle, So you guys are probably gonna notice a facelift on the show.
And we didn't get no new equipment, man.
We just had a guy that actually knows what the fuck he's doing with the cameras.
So um, yeah.
Anything else?
Oh, uh, chess MW.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chris, where can they find you?
Uh follow me on all the fans.com flash iron foxing.
Let's go.
Yeah, and guys, we're live on all the platforms.
Literally, we're live on Myron Gaines X, we're live on YouTube, both YouTube channels, mine and on Fresh and Fit.
So uh more than likely we're probably gonna funnel everybody over to a fresh and fit on Rumble after this when it's all said and done.
But we are live everywhere.
Uh we got like already a bunch of people watching.
So I've I've never seen this much W's in a chat before.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
It's it's literally well, it's cause uh do we have all the platforms in there, uh Bills?
Literally like all the the chess go all crazy.
Yeah, because uh the different yeah, because Myron Gaines X is in there too.
Well that and all fresh.
Yeah, okay.
Well, fair enough.
Shout out to Freshman.
First is our dog, bro.
Yeah, okay.
So uh what's the uh so we're gonna do the first prompt, right?
Yeah, the first prompt.
So uh do we have any chats to read first?
Oh, yeah, we could read some chats first.
Oh, uh no chats first.
No chats?
No, no chat.
All right, guys, get your chats in uh now, and then what I'll do is after we do the first prompt, um, we'll kind of go from there.
And the way it's gonna work, guys is gonna be very similar.
So I'm gonna go ahead and give my uh position, and then um the girls will go ahead and raise the paddle up, and if they raise it up, that we'll go on speed.
We're not gonna have them fight over the chair.
That's kind of you know, it's kind of messed up.
Um so whoever raised the paddle law fastest uh comes to the table, and then we can have a discussion and kind of go from there.
So uh what's the first prompt on there, Bills?
Guys for us.
Stop with the W's already, all right?
We're past that already.
Okay, so the first one, guys, and we have it right here on the screen for you guys, is the gender pay gap is not real.
Again, the the topic is the gender pay gap is not real.
So if you disagree, in other words, I don't think that uh, you know, women earning less than men is real.
Uh so if anybody wants to come in and have a discussion on it, you're more than welcome.
Put up your paddle.
I don't know.
Everybody terrified?
Well, it is Miami.
Uh you got something to say?
Me?
Yeah, come on up.
Come on up.
Oh, okay.
Don't be scared.
Yeah, go ahead.
And you can ask me to uh if you want me to like clarify or anything like that, feel free.
But yes, the gender pay gap is not real.
Are you saying that women have the same opportunities as men in pay raises?
Is that what you're saying?
I think women actually have more opportunities than men.
Is not the same.
I would argue world?
Yes.
Um I disagree because I feel like women tend to unless like I feel like women tend to deal with more uh sexual harassment in the workplace, so if they are getting promoted, it's probably not like because they're actually qualified, it's probably just because she looks the best.
So I don't think that the actually qualified women who like take their time and like take the educational routes are getting the same pay because they're not as desirable by the men in those fields that are appointing the people.
But I do think it's more like on the equal scale than it used to be back in the day.
I don't think women are like so far behind from men.
I would say if men are here, women are probably like right here.
Like we're not like it's not as much of the gap as it used to be back in the day.
Okay, so my thing is I think like basically the reason why there is a gap is because well, I'll start, I'll kind of give you my full position.
I think there is no gender pay gap, and I think women earn less because they deserve less.
And I think there's a multitude of different reasons why I have that position, why women deserve less when it comes to how much they get paid.
Um but to go to what you said when it comes to like sexual harassment or them getting the job, I think that kind of adds more, you know, power to my agreement my argument where women are getting positions even though they're not qualified because they're women.
Now you're saying why, because sexual harassment, but it doesn't change the fact that like they're still getting the positions, even though they're not as qualified.
And I would argue a lot of the times when women get sexually harassed, that's from them making bad decisions on how they dress and how they um how they behave.
I think sexual harassment a lot of it has to do with the women's behaviors because sexual harassment means you're being objectified.
I think for you to be objectified, you have to objectify yourself first, which I think women chronically objectify themselves first, then get mad when men objectify them in response.
oh Oh, well, um I throw a lot out there.
So first I said women is uh women earn less because they deserve less.
That's the first thing I said.
Okay, so on we deserve less.
Yes.
Are you making that statement in the assumption that you want us at home and that we work less because we have to take more care of the home and men are more outside than women are?
Well, that's a part of it.
But but like if everything is all equal, the reason why women earn less.
Oh, someone else wants to come in?
Yeah, sure.
Sure.
Um did did we get uh how did we have oh yeah, ladies by the way, if you don't think she's doing a good job, raise your paddle up, and then uh if we get like a majority, then she'll get kicked off.
I was just laughing.
But let me do we have a majority?
We don't have majority yet, right?
Okay, how many girls have a paddle up?
Do we have six?
All of them.
Oh damn, they all want you gone.
Okay, fair enough.
That's brutal.
Okay, who's up next?
Uh who wanted to come up?
She didn't.
She wanted to be a good thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's fine.
Coco or you wanna go?
Uh so she's closest.
Yeah, that's fine.
She's closest.
And then and then you can rotate if needed.
Okay.
Hi.
What's your name by the way?
Introduce yourself real quick to the people.
Uh name, age and where you're from.
Rashida, aka Mishita baby.
Okay.
I'm 26.
I'm from here.
From Miami, okay.
From Miami.
Um, honestly.
Oh, sorry.
My opinion my apologies.
Um, I believe what you saying.
Hey, y'all!
It is a difference between men and women in the age gap.
I do understand what you're saying.
Men are more qualified in some industries, tons of industries.
Men are more qualified to make more money and be able to surpass women.
Definitely.
And certain things, construction, s um, certain different type of carpentine industry, all different types of industries, especially even in the automobile industry, even in tons of industries, they out surpass women.
So, of course they're supposed to get m paid more money, and they're supposed to be given more money.
But at the same time, women do have opportunities where they surpass men as well.
Where men can't reach their pay scale and women can reach the men's pay scale.
But they're gonna have to work harder.
You have to put forth more work and more energy and a lot of more things to be able to reach at a man.
But in my opinion, women do deserve if they work hard enough to be able to be paid on a male scale, but at the same time, some certain things are more qualified.
They certain more money for men is more qualified for men specifically because of it.
Um I see your perspective, but what you're making the argument for is like you're saying you want equality of opportunity, which that's fine, but the reality is a lot of times it's opportun it's they get equality of outcome, which is basically women want the same pay for doing less work.
Like across the board, women work less hours, they work less dangerous jobs, they take less risks, they're more likely to take vacation, more likely to take paternity leave, of course.
Um, you know, women just don't work as hard as men in general, um, and they don't go into certain professions that pay more.
Um, and women also don't negotiate for higher rates of pay.
They're not they're more agreeable, which being more agreeable also lends to you earning more uh earning less money.
So in general, there's a multitude of different reasons why women earn less, but I would argue the reason why women earn less most of the time is because they actually deserve less.
Not all the time.
Sometimes women do the same amount of level as other females.
I mean, as other males.
Such as the industry.
Like for example, I I had a job last week that I was doing ten times more work than the men.
We're setting up a basketball tournament for all the different high schools, everything, setting up the whole auditorium, setting up the whole main place at the Fort Lauderdale um arena.
Well, but there's a bunch of different factors that go in, like experience, education, background, all of these things play into a role.
But I was doing more work than all of the men.
And of course the men, because of my appearance, you know, sometimes I don't show up ugly.
I don't show up looking a hot mess like everybody else.
So, you know, I don't look like the heavy duty like you're supposed to.
So they might get a call back, but I don't get a call back.
Was this like a physical manual labor job or something?
Or what were you doing?
I do I do phys physical manual labor.
Like so you're setting up the basketball court?
Uh we were setting up basketball courts.
You know, basketball courts have to be set up in order for arenas.
Yeah.
Um, you know, whether they switch it between uh, so you're saying that you're doing more work than the guys, and you're saying you get paid less of them?
Um the same?
We're getting the same.
And some of them I was getting paid more.
Believe it or not.
Okay, and you're a woman.
And and I'm a woman.
But at the same time, men are certain things are more qualified than women.
And certain things women are more qualified than men.
In the basic In what ways would that women be more qualified?
Uh women take over uh makeup, hair, uh food, um, especially baking, especially uh kids' lifestyle on YouTube, even on YouTube, they trump, they trump when it comes to I mean, I wouldn't consider YouTube like a real like career field like that.
Even uh even though I'm in this industry, like I still wouldn't, I don't can I still to this day don't consider this like a real job.
Um it's a lot of work, but I still don't I don't know, put it the same level.
Yeah, I mean, I s I see your your argument, but um typically wherever there's men and women competing, men just outperform the women because men tend to be better than women at many things.
And men a lot of times have a higher incentive to work harder than women.
Like women sometimes work hard, that's great, but it's a choice for them.
Oh, do we have a majority of women that are majority of you guys?
Okay, they're tired of you.
Oh good.
Uh, who's up next?
Oh, go ahead.
So I position again is that the wage gap does not exist, so we'll kind of try to stick on that if we can.
Um, yeah, you were saying women deserve less, but how did you get here and who raised you?
I don't know what that has to do with the argument, but because we have to take on a lot more things than men do.
Okay.
Have you ever known a man to bear a child?
What does it have to do with the wage gap?
You said well, the main point you were making is women deserve less.
So Yes, when it comes to being in the work field and uh making money and being in the workforce, women earn less because they deserve less most of the time.
For the reasons I mentioned, they work less hours, they don't work as dangerous jobs, is experience, education, all these factors play in.
And basically what happened was when we talk about the wage gap, right?
They say like the man earns a dollar and the woman earns eighty cents.
That comes from all working men versus all working women.
So all working men versus all working women, that doesn't account for education, all the other things that play into you know, the situation as to why women get paid less.
But being a mom or m motherly duty doesn't really have to do with this.
I mean, it kind of does.
Women are encouraged a lot of times not to work and to be stay-at-home moms and to take care of children.
So I would argue is the other way now.
It used to be like that way.
Well, I know, but it was a good idea.
Well, women are women are literally incentivized now to be single and uh pursue a career and education over a family.
So the wage gap is closing due to that reason, right?
Because we're actually pursuing things?
Um well in education.
To a degree it is, it is closing, but women still choose jobs a lot of the times that um don't pay as much.
Women are more interested in jobs that you know social work, jobs that like teaching, jobs they have to deal with people, and those typically don't pay as much as like science, technology, engineering, math, or blue-collar jobs, which also pay a lot.
I don't worry.
What were your other points?
That's it?
What were your other points though?
No, that was it.
I was just that my position is that women uh earn less because they deserve less most of the time.
I don't think they deserve less.
Okay, why do you not think they deserve less?
Because they just they might work lower wage jobs, but they're doing way more to uh benefit the community.
If it's social work, if it's whatever you just said.
Well, I mean, the thing is is that you typically get paid on the value that you provide, right?
And then um how rare is that value.
So for example, a regular doctor might make a hundred thousand dollars a year, but a brain surgeon is making five hundred to a million dollars a year.
Why?
Because you have to go to school longer, that skill is very precise, and it's uh difficult to find that skill set.
So um they're able to charge more.
So the nor the amount of value he provides is enormous, and only he can provide it.
Yeah, but value is intrinsic, so to an individual, they can decide what they find valuable or not.
Let I know um obviously health care, everyone needs health care, so that's different.
But yeah, but the the point I'm trying to establish with that example is that the market dictates the value.
So social workers, they're a dime a dozen.
Every girl that graduates from college wants to be a social worker, but not everyone can be a brain surgeon, for example.
So it's hard to do it.
There's a high gap to get in, and then obviously it's really needed because if you need a if you need a brain surgery or whatever, there's only a few people in your state that could do it.
Hence why they get paid more.
What does that have to do with men and women though?
You're just talking about brain surgeons now.
I was giving you the example as to why um stupid adding value, right, is is how you get paid.
Because you were saying, Oh, well, women do great work.
That's true, but that job is replaceable by being a social worker versus being a brain surgeon.
Does that make sense?
It does.
Alright.
Okay.
Who's up next?
Or did you or did you guys want or no nobody else had it?
Okay.
I think we all agree with you.
Now you guys agree?
You guys all think women are just that easy?
Women deserve less.
Just like that, women deserve less.
No, on me.
Okay.
Oh.
Okay, if you guys think women deserve less, then come on, or you don't think they deserve less, go ahead.
Okay.
I think the way you're saying it is coming off kind of condescending.
Uh-huh.
Versus if you were to be like men do more because they're physically able to do more, so yes, you should be paying them more.
Hence women deserve less.
Yeah.
Oh Yeah.
Same conclusion.
And that same stance, like I I mean, it's really hard to disagree with you.
It's just the way you're saying it's coming off kinda like, ugh.
Well, I mean, it's true.
The reality is that women tend to not work as hard as men because you guys don't have the same thing.
Well, I mean, if it can't be getting like drafted for the war, I mean, I'm happy to choose you over me any day.
Yeah, if you're gonna get paid more regardless, yeah, go out there.
Well, no, actually, if we were both to join the military at the same level, you would get we would get paid the same.
Unfortunately.
But yeah.
Oh.
Unfortunately, actually, that's that's a perfect example.
You know, aren't they both risking their lives?
Yeah, you're right.
But let's say me and you both enlisted.
We would get paid the same even though you're physically inferior.
And you have a lower standard that you have to achieve to get into the same military.
So I have a higher standard and I get paid less.
Isn't that crazy?
That sucks.
Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with you because same thing with being a cop, uh, firefighter standards are lower, but you get paid the same.
So I would argue if anything, we should be mad.
We deserve more.
Y'all deserve even less.
Damn.
He's out here eating us a lime bread.
Well, your statement is said condescendingly, but I don't necessarily think that you're wrong for your thought pattern because in general, I do think that men tend to put in more work than women do.
You don't think men are superior to women?
No, I do, because like I'm not trying to be out there doing nothing.
I don't want to mow low no lawn.
I don't know.
So wouldn't be condescending fits in, it's talking down to someone, isn't it?
Condescending.
Yeah, because you ain't gotta say it like that.
You could just be like, Bay, I work harder than you, so I deserve a little bit more.
That's fine.
Yeah, but you're acknowledging that men are superior, and then if I speak in a condescending way, you're like, Well, don't talk to me like I'm lower, even though I am, but it's rude.
Okay.
Exactly.
But it's true though.
Okay, let's go.
This will be the next prompt.
This will be the next problem.
Yeah, okay.
My next one, uh improv uh bills.
I know this one wasn't on the script, but I'll get into it.
My next uh statement here.
Uh does anyone else want to do anything with the pay gap or anything?
Or no?
Okay, everyone's like, no.
Okay.
The next one is Yeah.
That's why we have to yeah, because women don't want to pay for nothing, so we gotta make more money.
All right, the next prompt is women are lazy.
The next prompt is this.
Um men are superior to women in everything that matters.
Again, men are superior To women in everything that matters.
So if you disagree, feel free to come on up or raise your thing.
She has a comment, right?
But men are superior to women in everything that matters.
Hello.
Hi.
When you say everything.
That matters.
Is that everything?
Pretty much, yeah.
Pretty much anything that matters.
I mean, you can make the argument that like Oh, women are better at you know doing nails.
Doing nails.
Well, you was that you said what put raising kids.
Actually, that is not true.
I think so.
Men are better at raising children.
They found that single fathers do better than single mothers.
It was a study that was done.
It was actually um in Rollo Tomasti's book, shout out to him in book four.
Men actually do better um for raising productive children for society than women do.
I don't think so.
Intro for Oh, yeah, what's your name, by the way?
Sorry.
My name is Z. Okay.
I go by Mr. Nobody.
That's what's on my chain.
Okay.
Um, and I do lashes.
I'm 24.
Okay.
Well, women are better at doing lashes, but that doesn't really matter.
Of course.
No offense.
So yeah, so men are better at raising kids too.
So what women are better at cooking.
Actually, the best chefs are men.
Oh my gosh.
Stop cleaning.
Everything.
Women are better at everything.
Men's sake.
Okay, what are what are women better at men at what are women better than men at thanks to the other one?
Literally everything.
Men try to take like the easy route out.
Really?
I would argue it's the other way around.
I think women take the easy way out.
Women are more they think more than men.
Really?
Yes.
Okay.
Can you give me an example of how you think women think more than men?
All the best philosophers were men.
I just honestly, it doesn't matter about the history.
I just think women are better.
Okay.
Um so do you I guess is there anything that women are better than men at that you can think of?
I don't know.
Everything, literally.
Okay, give me another example because everything's not.
The only thing men do is impregnate women.
And they're not going to be able to do that.
Yeah.
And we grow the baby.
We nurture the baby.
We we do everything.
Okay.
I can give another prompt after this one.
But um, yeah, I I think um can you name anything else that women are better than men at?
I don't think you've named one yet.
I literally named all these things.
Um you got debunked.
You said better thinkers, that's not true.
You said better parents, better raisers, that's not true.
Oh, they got booted out?
Okay.
Alright, they said they said uh L for you.
Who's up next?
Who wants to go?
Um Remember, guys, ladies, the prompt is men are superior to women in everything that matters.
Men are superior to women in everything that matters.
Hi.
Okay, I'm back.
Um, I don't I don't agree with that.
Okay.
What do you disagree with?
Well, men are superior to women with everything that matters.
Nursing.
When you first get brought into this world, who is usually delivering you?
A man or is it a woman?
Well, the doctors typically a man.
But are the nurses the ones who help deliver, wash the baby, change the baby, transport you, are they predominantly male or they're predominantly women?
Well, it's predominantly overseen by a male doctor.
Oh doula's um and the hospitals being run by a man typically.
The the the um the infrastructure for for the woman to be able to deliver the child in a sterile clean environment was provided by men.
The lights that are on were provided by men.
The technology that's allowed them to do it without dying was all provided by men.
It it I'm not saying that it wasn't provided by men.
I know men do have that structure or that infrastructure to be able to, you know, pay for everything, make everything solidified, but it doesn't mean that you're superior just because in the beginning, let's just be honest with you.
In the beginning, it was a man and a woman.
Okay, a man was by himself, but at the end of the day, God seen that he needed a f a woman, somebody to be by him.
So he put him to sleep and took her out of the rib.
So if he didn't need anybody, if he didn't need any female, why create it?
Well, I'll be honest with you.
When it comes to um, like I said, men are better than women at everything that matters.
So like if we had to rely on female ingenuity, we'd probably still be rubbing sticks together to get fire.
Um women don't really invent anything or create anything or innovate for anything.
Um children.
Yeah, but you need a man to do that too.
So that's true.
Um when I say men are superior to women in everything that matters, I mean as in like anything that like really matters for society and survival.
So quite like men are better than that.
So quick question, what do you think matters to you the most?
If you say that everything that matters, what matters actually in this day and age?
Well, if I'm gonna be very, very blunt about this, the only thing that really matters is force.
So um, yeah, see, you looked at me crazy because women don't even understand this concept because you guys have the privilege of not having to worry about this.
But um the reality is whoever monopolizes force controls things.
So I I'll give you an example.
The reason why you're able, right, to walk around in a safe, clean environment is because we have police, right?
And that police is backed by a government, right?
And that government has a military, right?
And that monopoly of force ensures order, right?
Who controls that monopoly of force?
Alright, five pedals.
Okay, she's out.
Yep.
All right, fair enough.
Men do.
But uh who's up next?
Um it's um the prompt is men are superior to women at everything that matters.
Who's that who had some he's a Muslim saying that's about me?
Go ahead.
Anyone say that?
Yeah, guys.
Okay, let's go.
All right, go ahead.
I mean, if guys are voting, uh you guys have to go up.
Yeah, if you guys are gonna, yeah, if you guys are gonna vote to kick them off, you gotta you gotta be ready to jump on, man.
Yeah, you can't just get her off and then be like, oh Saudi.
Saudi.
Yes, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
What's your name?
Letty, aka Susie.
Okay.
How old are you?
What do you do?
Someone get her a booster seat, please.
Thank you.
Oh, yes, please.
Yeah.
Uh yeah, how old are you and uh 38, fun size?
I'm another thing, thank you.
Okay, you're in order.
Signer agent, thank you.
All right.
So um what do you disagree with um with men are superior to women at everything that matters?
I disagree in everything.
Men are not superior in on most of the things.
Okay.
Women could do the same thing just as men, we're just not appraised the way men are equivalent.
So do you think that women can do the same as men?
We could do everything.
Okay, give me an example.
I mean, that's why there's studs that could do everything just like a man.
You mean the lesbians?
A stud.
Okay, a woman pretending to be a man.
Um they can't even do that properly.
They could do that pretty well.
Okay.
So uh yeah, so how are women superior to men?
I know you said everything, but can you give me like a couple?
Well, I said women are way superior than men.
Okay, give me an example of how they're superior.
They could do anything that they desire.
Fantastic.
Um make me nervous.
Yeah, well, I I'm uh waiting for you to give me an example of how they uh how they're superior to men.
Oh, I I I think it's under her arm, Myron.
She's like, we can run for presidency as women, I'm not sure.
Wait, no.
No.
That's good.
Well, but that doesn't mean like she might be done with dudes.
Right?
Or no.
Wait, what?
I don't have two kids.
I'm sorry.
Off that record.
One child, thank you.
Oh, one, okay.
Well, he's 19.
So I don't have no kids.
Okay.
You could be my kid though.
I'll write it.
Who me?
You see, I'm superior.
I'm a woman.
Stupid.
That's an example of how we're superior.
You see, men fall for any tricks.
I can run for presidency, women already have.
We overcome this.
Actually, you guys lost the last time.
That's fine.
The last two times, actually.
Hillary and Kamala.
But we were superior at one point.
You get the statement.
When were you superior at one point?
We were running presidency as well.
Bruh.
Alright.
Who's up next?
We were VPs.
What are you talking about?
All right.
Well, it is Miami chat, okay?
You guys gotta you guys gotta So you fucking I cannot.
It's not fucking Princeton, all right, niggas.
Like, what do you guys think?
Do you guys think this I think I guess what do you guys expect?
Yeah, no.
Fucking maddy, bro.
The prettiness comes at a cost, nigga.
Okay.
So alright.
Um did you think of something?
Um my position is men are superior to women at everything that matters.
Yes.
And um I think that women are superior in expressing themselves better than men are.
Okay.
But I don't necessarily disagree with you.
because do you uh they brought up lesbians, but like then you have like gay men who could like do hair better and like do lashes better, so it's like Yeah.
I well, I mean But I think women are better at expressing themselves.
Well they beat the shot of each other more.
Huh?
Yeah, lesbians actually have the highest yeah, you don't know.
Yeah, lesbians actually have the highest domestic violence rates.
I mean like in just like regular life, I think.
Women are more violent than people think.
Way more but that's expressing yourself.
If you angry, girl express that.
You don't know.
Well, does that really make you better at expressing yourself if you've got to do it violently?
I would argue men are actually better holding their emotions, which is actually I think a better way to express you don't have to getting your emotions out all the time isn't necessarily good.
I think the only reason women get away with it is because you guys don't deal with the consequences of your emotional outbursts.
For example, when women fight each other and they beat each other up, they don't really beat each other up because you guys are so weak.
But like when men uh get violent and attack each other, someone can die.
Okay.
Well damn like I've noticed that women are far more likely to get in in fights than men are.
Like that because women don't under I don't think women properly understand the concept of violence.
Especially like in today's day and age.
Like how many times have you seen a girl say, I could beat a guy up, I can fight him, or I'll kick his ass.
That tells me that she doesn't she lives in a bizarre world.
Because like a regular 15-year-old can beat up like 95% of women, grown women too.
But I don't think like a lot of girls have ever been punched in the face by a man before, so they don't know.
Only girls that unfortunately, only women that have been like victims of domestic violence or been fought in a with a guy before, or like maybe an athlete, a boxer, or someone that's sparred with a guy, they understand that concept, like, oh no, I can't fight a guy ever.
But like regular girls for some odd reason think they could fight men.
It's strange.
I think because in their head they think that he's not gonna use full force on her.
Oh, sometimes they do, and it's really bad.
I tell women all the time, don't fight guys.
Because there's there's some weirdos out there that are waiting to fucking knock a chick out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But uh but yeah, so you know, so do you have any examples of where women are superior to men?
Besides expressing themselves, uh being uh I hate to do it to us, but being sexual, we're definitely better at it.
Uh that's the old I'm not gonna lie to you.
Like when I seen when I say being sexual, I mean like what do you mean like being giving off that sexual energy?
Women are better at like seducing and kind of manipulating than men I would say are.
Okay, yeah, I I could I could agree to that.
I just I don't think that like matters though.
In the grand scheme of the world.
Like I don't think that's like for women it does.
You gotta get you a lot of things.
You know what?
I have one being annoying.
Yeah, they're women have been annoying than guys are.
That's cool that like women don't finesse men more.
But ask yourself, I would argue that women finesse men because men are superior, so therefore they must use conniving behaviors and you know deception to get male attention because women understand that you need to align yourself with with men because they're superior.
So I would argue them using this tactic it actually shows how men are superior because they have to use deception to get around it.
Alright because if they were so superior, they wouldn't need the guys, wouldn't they?
All right, five paddles.
Five, okay.
Alright.
Well, here we go.
Oh the argument is um the argument is um men are superior to women at everything that matters.
I feel like women are better at dressing themselves and I feel like women have a better fashion sense, and that's important because um a lot of fashion ties into culture and history.
The best designers are all men though.
But who wears their clothes?
Okay, men and women.
But the best designers are women.
I'm sorry, are men.
But who runs on the fashion shows?
How would people know what's out if the woman didn't walk on the runway?
And that affects the other thing.
Yeah, but there is no fashion so without the men.
children and schools.
You know, it's interesting because like gay dudes are better than the things that women are supposed to be good at.
It's kind of interesting, isn't it?
Where are the statistics on that?
Well, they're um the fashion shows.
They just they dominate the female industry in a lot of different ways.
But the women are wearing the clothes though.
That's fine.
But they don't know.
But they're the ones marketing it though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they're like, but it's only them that can do it though.
Exactly.
When I say superior, I mean as in something that they can compete in.
No, you didn't because they're the only ones who can, so it's they're subject to the thing.
If if they're the only ones that can, like, then that means that men can't even I'm talking about like superior and everything where they can actually like compete.
Men can walk on the runway.
Men have the ability to do that.
No one said, Yeah, but they can't wear women's clothes on the runway.
Why can't men wear women's clothes?
I mean, that that's kind of weird.
But I don't I would still argue that this is not this doesn't matter.
Well, I would argue that you're wrong.
You think it does matter?
Yeah.
Fashion?
Absolutely.
Is fashion needed to move society forward?
Is a demonstration of culture of what your passions are, what you've been through in life, what you do as a career.
Fashion is a huge indicator of a lot of things.
So yeah, I find it to be important.
When I look around the room, I look how everyone's dressed, and I make judgments off of it.
So I would say it's important.
Interesting.
If fashion was so important, why does it change all the time?
Um there is like eating food never goes out of style, but bell bottom jeans do.
Yeah, but there's timeless fashion pieces.
Like you can get a black bag and it's gonna go with all of your outfits.
That's timeless.
I'm not I'm not saying like a crop top.
We're not gonna be able to do that.
But fashion doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
It kind of does.
Look at what everyone is wearing right now, clothes.
If the electricity shut off tomorrow, no one would care about fashion.
They'd be fighting to get make sure that they can get food, access to weapons.
All right.
That's another paddle, huh?
That's another that's a that's a bunch of the case.
Well, she tried.
No, don't worry about it.
Okay.
You're the tiebreaker?
Yeah.
He's 80 vance, bro.
Yep.
He's 80 advanced, man.
Uh paddle.
Yeah.
Alright, uh we could get the next prompt, I guess.
That's prompt.
Okay.
Uh we'll do the um Okay.
Next prompt.
If women didn't have titties and vaginas, men would not spend their time and effort to pursue them.
That's not true.
Okay, well, come on up and prove me wrong.
Come on up if you disagree.
The prompt is if women didn't have vaginas and titties, men would not waste their time to pursue them.
Chasing them.
Oh my god.
What the fuck was that?
Oh my god.
Alright.
So I just I definitely disagree.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, thanks for spinning water on all of us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's all good.
Yeah, just uh help them out.
Yeah, but go ahead.
Uh why do you do you what do you disagree with?
We I disagree because we have throats, and if that also makes men happy.
I'm like, oh that makes powers.
Um, just so I make sure I have this right.
So we have throats and that makes men happy.
Yes.
Ladies.
Alright.
Umgratulations.
You just reverted yourself down to like a throat, okay.
Anything else?
I mean, you mentioned the rest of the body features would be gone, right?
Like, basically, like, yeah, basically, if women didn't have titties or vaginas, men wouldn't.
I guess we can add throats to that too.
The men wouldn't talk to them.
Yeah, but women would have butts.
So we still have more butts than men, so if we removed all men would not spend their time talking to women, fair we will have toes, right?
Men love feet.
Yeah, the toes could do magic.
I would say probably a minority of men are feet guys.
I don't think most guys are feet guys.
That's still I'm I'm pretty sure that's a lie.
Because they know it does the job.
Where's my paddle?
Okay.
All right.
Thank you.
Alright, who's up next?
Okay.
Wait, well, who's up next?
Okay, yes.
If men did if women didn't have titties, vaginas, or I guess throats in this case.
Um, men would not talk to them or spend the amount of time or pursuit that they do.
Hello guys.
Oh, yeah, introduce yourself, yeah.
My name is Helena, I'm single actress host comedian.
I'm a super pooper girl.
I can do it.
Of course.
Oh, super duper.
Okay, I'm gonna say super pooper.
I was gonna say what?
I think she did say super poop.
I was expecting some funny questions.
Somebody tell me is they invited me for funny show.
What is the funny show?
Why is it look funny?
What's the questions?
Can you have some good funny questions?
No, it's a debate.
So let's talk about our topic.
So you're saying that men would not chase the woman if we would not have boobs and vaginas.
So I would say or throats or toes or doesn't matter.
I think men would do it because uh genetically the God create men to say what the fuck, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
To fuck as more as possible women because you are responsible for reproducing the human race.
And women are responsible for the quality.
So we need to choose the best men from in the area um to make the child because the child will have the best genes.
So because of this for women is important to have a one but the best male, and for men is important to fuck many women because it's your job, guys.
Yeah, but that proves my point.
So this is naturally you have a needs to doing that.
So you agree.
No, opposite opposite.
I mean, doesn't matter.
We would have a boobs or something, doesn't matter.
It's your uh insight to you feel you want it.
Yeah, but that's what I'm trying to say.
Like if it wasn't for women's sexuality, men wouldn't deal with them, is my point.
No, but I don't speak about sexuality.
I speak about the natural thing which you need to do.
Animals doesn't have a lot of stuff, but they still fucking insist.
They voted you out, Miss Ukraine.
What?
They're kicking you out, they're giving you the Putin treatment.
All right.
God damn.
God damn.
I'm sorry.
All right.
I'm back.
Hello.
And he said, uh, so if women didn't have uh vaginas, toes, butts, uh whatever, men would not deal with them uh if they didn't have yeah.
I once again disagree.
Okay.
Um would you say they chased after other men?
Because if if basically if women didn't have all those things, they're pretty much gonna be shaped like a man.
Okay, let me be a bit more blunt.
Outside of female sexuality, there's virtually no benefit to being around women.
Do you on your everyday basis, do you hang around more men, or do you hang around more women?
So here's the thing.
You're far more productive hanging out with other men as a man.
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying you on everyone.
I prefer to hang out with men, yes.
Do you prefer to hang out with women, chill with them?
With men.
I don't enjoy the company of women.
So if you said if they don't have vaginas and if they don't have tits, so who do you sleep with?
Who do you have sex with?
Okay.
Women who don't have vaginas.
Notice how I said or women who don't have titties and vaginas.
You're missing what I'm trying to say here.
What I'm saying is that outside of sexuality, women provide very little value to men, and if they didn't have said sexuality, men would not spend time hanging out with them.
Men would have spent time hanging out with them because women are beautiful.
Women are sexy, they dress nice, they won't carry themselves.
You made all notice how even when you said they would hang out with them, you gave all the things I said as to why men do that.
No, I asked you, would you hang out with men more because of women?
Because if women didn't have all those things, would you hang out with men more?
Because you're basically going to have to be a good one.
Yeah, if women didn't have the sexuality, sexuality is is the first thing that you're supposed to be at.
It's a spectrum.
It's supposed to you're supposed to be something that you pursue, but you're supposed to pursue women because they have more feminine qualities than men.
Yeah, my point I'm trying to make here is that men only pursue women for sexuality.
If women didn't have sexuality, men would not pursue them, and men probably would not want to spend time with them.
And my point is is that women provide very little utility to men outside of sex.
That's my blunt uh position.
Not really.
They can have guidance.
Yep, I see.
Okay.
I haven't disagreed the night.
I know we just had a little bit.
Oh, so I mean, come on, ladies.
Put it up, but you can't get it.
Yeah, ladies, you put your panel up, you gotta step up.
Frank, go Jesus, crank.
Go.
Go, buddy.
There you go.
Okay.
Alright.
Hi guys.
My name is Genesis.
Um give your age and what you do for work and stuff.
Um, um, I'm 19.
I'm a model, a sugar baby.
Um I'm single.
Yeah, well, it is Miami, right?
That's just our occupation.
Okay, it's Miami, so we gotta we gotta hey, it's like uh the most Miami panel ever.
Okay, yeah, so my position is women um outside of sexuality don't provide much utility to men.
I completely agree, especially with with how things are nowadays.
That's the only reason why a man approaches a woman.
So I haven't disagreed with anything.
That's why she likes to be able to do that.
Yeah, you just want to go off the panel.
All right, who uh disagree?
Yeah, who's someone else that raised the paddle paddle up?
Oh, you want to come in?
Go ahead.
I get up now.
Okay.
Alright, yeah.
So my position is women provide very little I obviously I was you know, I gave a prompt that's kind of funny.
If women didn't have tits or vaginas, men wouldn't talk to them.
But the the point, the main bottom line, ladies, to simplify it is women provide very little uh utility to men outside of sexuality.
What do you disagree with?
I'm like 5050.
Okay.
Some women do not have personality at all.
Okay, you think personality for themselves.
Okay, so a lot of men do not enjoy their company.
However, there are some women, probably about 40% of women that can do more than just have sex.
Sure.
But what I would argue is that um men don't even care about their personality if they don't meet the look factor first.
I disagree.
So the so the so the sexuality needs to the the sexuality precedes the personality.
I disagree.
Okay, why do you disagree?
Um just from personal experience, I have a lot of guy friends.
Majority of the streets, I think one girlfriend.
So you think those guys hang out with you because of your personality?
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
Because I'm not giving nothing up.
Like what we talk about is business ideas, we talk about their mental health, my mental health.
We talk about things that's going on in the world.
Okay.
So you friends on them.
Yeah.
Okay, fair.
And they friends on me too.
I don't think so.
I do think so.
I think if the opportunity presented itself, they would have sex with you.
They think I'm their brother.
Don't ruin it.
Yeah, you don't think they would?
No.
Alright, let's get her phone real quick.
How about you call them live on air?
No.
Uh, you don't want to call them live on air?
Put it to the test.
You call them, just tell them literally tell them, hey, I you know, wondering why we never took it to the next step.
Let's see what they say.
Let's put that personality to the test.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah?
Alright, let's do it.
Alright, so what you're gonna do is um you're just gonna call your guy, put on speaker, hold it up to the mic, and uh, don't worry, at the end that you could tell him I'm just kidding.
All right, so you don't like put yourself in a weird spot.
Dude gets a horn dog and fucking calls you all night.
But yeah, you're just gonna call him and say, hey, um Tyrone.
Why did we ever become something?
Sorry, I'm just assuming.
I don't know.
What?
You're a black.
Am I black?
I don't know.
Everyone tells me I'm not, so I don't know.
I don't know what I am anymore.
Some days I'm Indian, some days I'm a Santa, some days I'm an Arab.
I don't know.
They tell me I'm uh all kinds of shit.
Okay.
So yeah, so ladies, I need everybody to be quiet.
I want you to call him and say, All right, um why didn't we ever become anything?
I don't know.
I gotta find a good one.
Goodbye, man.
You call call the one that you like the most.
Oh, and not the gay guy.
No, he's not gay.
I like the boys.
Not a gay one, because we've had that where girls call the gay one.
Oh, you call them?
Alright, put it up to the mic so they can hear and put on speaker.
Everybody be quiet, please.
I think it's on speaker.
I'm calling on Instagram though, so it's like isn't Ring?
Calling an egg on Instagram.
Holy.
Yeah.
I don't want him to have my number.
Yes, we're friends.
Bro, that proves my point even more.
No, it doesn't.
It's just Yeah.
Yeah, he he to you he's just a friend, but to him, he's like, damn, I'm trying.
No, I don't think so.
I'm gonna call again.
Okay.
Second time's a time.
Maybe he's not answering because this is a sign.
But here you go.
Okay.
I think that pretty much proves our point.
She wouldn't even give him the phone number.
Okay.
So anyway, my position is um women, um men are superior.
Sorry, no, uh women have very little utility out of sexuality.
I think to be honest with you, that these guys converse with you in business and get to know your personality on the pretense that they're hoping that they can have sex with you in the future.
I want to say, okay, possibly, but maybe only one or two mate little hints.
Not all of them.
Well, you gotta understand that men are terrified of rejection in 2025.
And I'm gonna assume that these men that you're f friends with are probably lower status, maybe not as attractive, don't have as much money, don't have some status, so they're not attractive enough.
But then they're nice converse uh uh conversationalists or something.
I only converse with people that I feel like is on my level or above me.
Okay, so um they might not be arousing, maybe they're not good looking, maybe they're not tall enough, maybe they're fat, maybe they have a girlfriend, but they still want you.
There's a multitude of different reasons why women put guys in a friend zone.
But the point I'm trying to make is is that notice how you can be friends with someone that is at a higher echelon than you that you get value from, but they're not really getting value back from you, even though you think you are.
The real value they want is the sexuality, but they're not getting that.
So you're extracting all the value from them.
So that's what I mean when I say being friends with women is useless, and women get all the value.
Sorry, so what, five battles?
Oh, okay.
Fair enough.
I don't even get to say this.
Alright, well, no, don't worry about it.
Well, whoever got her out, just uh I hope you got something better to say.
Just raise it back up and come back if they don't say anything better.
Okay.
And I won't go back.
So the argument is uh my position is uh women provide little value outside of sexuality.
Yes, okay.
So don't men have the highest suicide rate.
Like, no, wait, just go with go along with that.
Sure, yes, they do.
Okay, right.
So women are more nurturing because men think with their pineal gland.
So when you have um a bad day, no, but when you have a bad day and you want to talk to somebody, your bros just gonna be like, suck it up, let's go fuck some bitches.
A woman is gonna be like, come on, babe, they're gonna nurture you, they're gonna make you feel better about yourself.
And maybe because you hang around men all day, and other men probably hang around men all day.
They're they're depressed, they don't feel well mentally, and then so I suppose I'm trying to say the uh value we provide is nurturing and emotional.
And men don't have that.
I can I can talk about that a little bit.
So um what I've realized between men and women, right?
When they're confiding in each other, women just want to talk to somebody and talk about their problems.
They don't really care about solutions.
Men on the other hand, they typically talk about their problems looking for a solution because for men to open up, um, it's gotta be worth it.
For women to open up, it's like, oh yeah, just open up.
So and this happens all the time when I talk with women, like they'll just wanna get vent their problems out.
They don't really care about a solution, but with men it's like they're looking for a solution.
So I would argue talking to men is far more beneficial because number one, they are probably dealing with your problems to some degree, and they can actually provide some advice, assuming they've accomplished something, versus a woman is gonna hear your problems, but not really be able to help you.
And you look like a bitch now.
I don't think telling women your problems is a good idea as a man ever.
Have you all I've heard you say that before?
That's why.
But why do you think you're advising men that they shouldn't confide in women and then like I feel like you're just giving them bad advice?
Okay.
Let me ask you a question then.
Let's say um well let's let's you let's use a female example here.
Let's say you went to nail salon.
True and uh they did a shitty job.
Really bad job.
Right.
Right?
And uh nails came out fucked up, Asian girl overcharged you, you break you by, whatever.
And um, you go home and you're pissed off, and uh your man tells you, Oh, what it's not that big a deal.
Like, you should get your nail done like this and done like that.
But he doesn't know anything about nails or proper salons or workmanship or any of this stuff.
Would you take his advice seriously?
No.
Probably not, right?
No.
Why?
Probably not.
Because he's not as experienced on the topic as I am.
And he's not qualified, correct?
Correct.
And he hasn't been through your feminine experiences, understanding what should be done and what shouldn't be done when it comes to names.
I wouldn't want him to be like, I'm so sorry that happened to you emotionally.
And that's that actually proves my point before where women just want to be heard.
They don't really care about a solution.
Well, let me give you, and that's that's that's the big difference where when men talk about their problems, they want a solution.
Women just want to be heard.
It doesn't help to just be heard for us.
It helps for you guys.
But let's go back to that scenario with the nails.
So the man isn't gonna give you good advice, right?
So you're gonna kind of go ahead and figure it out on your own.
Or talk to your girlfriends because they might be able to help you more, right?
Because they have the same problem.
Maybe.
Hey, I know a better hair salon.
Oh, that bitch sucks.
Oh, I know you can write a review here.
You can probably get talk with them and get a solution, correct?
Sure.
They're better equipped than your boyfriend.
Would that be fair to say to help you in this problem with your nails?
Sure, yeah.
Perfect.
Same exact situation with being a man.
We go through things that you guys will never ever experience and don't understand.
So it's better to talk to men that understand those problems and can give you a solution versus just talking about it with a woman.
Because unfortunately, women can't help men with most of their problems.
I disagree.
You agreed to it, you agreed to the concept a second ago.
Well, I disagree.
No, I think they yeah, they're you got voted out.
Alright, well, thanks for trying.
Alright.
Mr. Crane, welcome back.
Hello, Mr. Sorry guys, I don't understand English so good.
I didn't understand your questions.
Next time, please repeat to me.
So, okay, I will speak about my country, not about America.
Because what I understand in America, the women, the girls, they're all the cultural is completely different from mine.
And what you're saying is completely different from mine.
In my country, it's all opposite.
The men dream to be with women because women are, you know, it's like the best friends.
It's like a team.
Uh the women, they care about the house, about the foods, they cooking, cleaning, as they listen in the guys, they do everything.
Actually, actually, for men, it's a big luck to be with women.
We are beautiful, we care about ourselves, about him, about children, about everything.
We do all the job.
So, because of this, in my country, most of the people living together many, many years.
For example, my mom and papa together for 40 years, they have four children, and they're still together and they're still happy, they're kissing each other, hacking each other.
So they're not going to be able to do it.
Do you remember what my argument was?
What what women give um um to men more, not only sex?
No, I said women uh don't provide much utility to men outside of sex.
We do a lot.
If if not women, men become a monkeys because we inspire you, we inspire you to be better every day.
And you know, we have this special energy.
Okay.
Um, yeah, I I don't think um I think any guy that needs inspiration from women is fucked.
Think about it.
Do you really want to be your husband's inspiration?
Like he should already be inspired to work anyway.
I would argue women want a guy as productive with or without them.
But you know, there is a very good sentence, like uh for uh with any billionaire, there is the woman who helped him to become billionaire.
Because he believed in him.
You just say that to make you guys feel better.
No, I know a lot of samples.
No, no, no, it's not like that.
It's a lot of samples.
Do you know any guy who was single all his life and he became billionaire?
Maybe not, maybe not because of the crypto, because now it's a bit more easy away.
But especially before As a matter of fact, gay men make a lot more money than than heterosexual men.
How?
How's he doing this?
Because what does he do?
Well, the thing is, look, and I hate to use this example, but it's true.
Gay men outperform heterosexual men financially, they make more money, they save more money, and it's because uh dealing with women is a huge wealth drain.
The average man over a lifetime loses about seven million dollars in the pursuit of women.
This has been was shown in a book by um Aaron Clary, the book of numbers, roughly seven million dollars uh heterosexual man will lose over the pursuit of women over a lifetime.
Not lose, having fun, he's doing his life, it's not losing.
Losing is when you do something bad, but he's enjoying his life.
I mean, if he lost seven million dollars, I would argue that's losing.
So what if he's so smart if he earns seven seven million, he will do more?
No problem.
The point I'm trying to make is is that heterosexual men pay a hefty cost for dealing with women, whereas because you're trying to say, Oh, single man uh are they gonna do as good?
I'm saying they'll do better.
And if they're gay, they don't have to deal with women, they make even more money.
I don't think so, because the man the gay men also pretends they are women as they do the same stuff, they try to get in money from the other gays.
No, they they the gay men always separate the check.
There's no come on, bro.
I've been in the gay club a couple days ago, and they speak about that.
Every gay dream to find the rich gay.
Yes.
Though that does exist.
No, it exists everyone.
Yeah, no, no.
Though that does exist, men are far more likely to pay their own tab and not they don't necessarily expect being given money like women are.
Women have a sense of entitlement when they deal with men, that's on a whole other level.
I didn't know that a gay who is uh pretends they're a woman and they make their win position in the any gay relationship, so they expect that.
Okay, remember, the argument is women provide very little utility to men outside of sex.
That is my position.
Um you made the argument that they can make more money with a woman.
I argue women, if anything, take money from you.
They're they're a liability, in other words.
My dear most women are not an asset, most women are a bill.
The problem is why men choose the women who suck in your money.
Why you don't choose the right woman?
Why you don't choose the woman with the good soul?
It's your problem that you're choosing the bitch who's sucking your money.
Whose problem it is?
That's the majority of women.
You that's I don't think you understand that.
So who so who is guilty just spending money and take the beach?
Take the good girl.
She makes it.
Even good girls are expensive.
Come on.
That's what I'm trying to explain to you.
Come on, the good girl, she she has a work, she has a good education, she spent a lot of time to hypothesis.
Let's say let's stay on the argument.
Women provide little utility outside of sex.
What is your argument to that?
I don't want to argue.
I come here for having fun.
And the friend didn't come because he's scared to leave me again.
We'll get friends to we'll get first to come and pick you up.
I wanted to see him and ask and ask how.
Yeah, I know.
She came for fresh and he's not here.
She's mad.
She's like, what the fuck?
I already just said.
We'll uh we'll text them and tell him to show up.
I lost two bones for I'll message him for you.
Yes, done.
Well, this is more fun.
Do you have any more funny questions?
Uh no, that's it.
I thank you for proving that uh women are pretty useless outside of sex.
I know.
All right.
Um next.
I would be the real woman.
I'll bait to you and say, Yes, you're right.
It is the best job of the woman.
All right.
Um, who's up next?
Yeah, even though women can use their own marijuana.
Go ahead, hold on.
Did anyone else want to come in?
Or or uh I go to the next topic.
Go, sweetheart, you got that.
Let's change this again.
Next prompt.
I was gonna give him a chance.
Oh, yeah, you didn't get to finish what you're saying before.
Yeah, so the argument is women provide little value to men outside of sex.
What is your Really honestly?
Do you go to your bros for comfort to be able to talk?
Actually, I think I think it's better to go to your friends, yeah.
You're gonna be able to do it.
Go to your men for support in the talk.
Even after, after every session that you have here, you go to the club.
Do you go to the club to chill with the bros?
Or you go to the club to ball out and spend it on the bitches.
Okay, are you asking me this personally or men in general?
No, I'm just talking about you personally.
Okay.
Now I'll answer your question, but I don't think this is an adequate representation of men.
No, but I'm not sure.
I don't go to the club.
But aren't you a man?
I am, but I don't go to the club.
I understand that.
But I'm just you want me to answer more generally then so I can give you a better answer.
Uh no, I basically I was just saying, I was just saying men genuinely don't go to their other bros for comfort.
Sometimes they need a woman to be able to reach out to.
They don't care if she's ugly, they don't care if she looks good, they don't care if she looks pretty, they don't go to their homies and bros because they can't vent to their homies or they can't vent to their guys, like they could vent to the females.
With their dudes, because they might get judged based on what they say or how they say it.
Okay, so here's the thing.
That's actually a mistake to open to to not look.
Remember the nail example I gave her earlier?
Hey.
What the hell?
No, no, no.
She's starting off with screen.
She looks weird.
What?
Yeah, like if you're having a it's weird.
I listen to everything you said, and then you're just like, what the hell?
Yeah, like you just say what you said.
I was looking at the chat, my apologies.
Um you're saying uh go to the club and okay.
Cause you made a couple things here.
Sorry, sorry.
Number one, men don't go to the club to open up to women.
They want to get laid.
That's a physical release.
That's number one.
Number two, uh, you mentioned why are guys gonna open up to their friends, their guy friends instead of women.
Um the reason why men should talk to their guy friends is because men are in a better position to dispense advice than women are.
Remember the example I gave with her in the nails?
You're not gonna go to your boyfriend to get legitimate strategic advice on how to deal with your nail problem and getting overcharged at the shop and finding a better person.
You're gonna go to another woman or someone that can actually advise you in that.
Same thing with men.
Um talking about your problems isn't gonna be helpful because quite frankly, women don't live the same life that men do.
I think women live life on easy mode if I'm gonna be all the way honest.
So, what the hell do I look like asking someone who plays the game on easy mode how to deal with hard mode problems?
Can I can oh can I go?
I'm done.
Um personally, I don't feel like men feel comfortable enough.
The bros are there for support, they're dirt to ball out, they're there to enjoy, but they're not there to give you the comfort and that nourishing nourishing situation as uh as a man.
They can't sit here and talk.
A lot of the dudes that hang around other dudes, it's fun to hang around men all the time.
It's fun to ball out with your homies.
But at the time at the end of the day, when it comes to certain situations, can you go to the homies and be like, hey, hey, uh, hey, this that I'm going through this emotions, I'm going through this struggles, I'm going through this pain, I'm going through this hurt.
You can't go to the homies.
So you gotta the next thing you could go to the no, because the homies don't understand.
Some men, all men are built and they're all raised differently.
That's where you're that's where you're mistaken.
They actually do understand because men go through the same things.
But not all men understand.
Some dudes, they go to their homies.
They want to go to their men.
They want to go to their bros.
To be able to reach out and talk to them.
But the problem is they can't talk to them.
Why?
Because they don't feel like they can open up and be honest and be truthful with a lot of the things.
So that's why they always feel like they have to put on a show or put on a facade, put on some type of something for another man to be able to feed into.
And they don't have to pursue nobody beautiful, they don't have to pursue somebody sexy.
Look at all the niggas who need money.
Tax season come around.
Who they go to?
The big bitches, the ugly hoes.
Why?
You think about it though.
You said men don't need women.
Men don't men don't want to pursue women about sexually, but why pursue women who why pursue women if they're if they're not sexually attractive?
Ma majority of non-sexually attractive people got money.
So that's a real that's a wonderful thing.
Let me uh respond to your um thing.
So you mentioned that they need to go to women for comfort.
Um, that's a mistake.
Um again, with men, looking for comfort is is the problem because as a man, we have a burden of performance.
We have to go out there, make money, acquire resources, acquire status.
Only women can be vulnerable and still be taken seriously.
Like men have to show strength.
So I would argue you're saying you can go to your homies, they'll make fun of you.
You'd be surprised at how like going to your friends and like talking about your problems, you can come up with a solution.
Going to your girl and talking about your problems actually makes you less attractive.
Women don't want a guy that's gonna sit there and sob on them.
They want a guy that's gonna be a problem solver and just understands how to fix a problem.
What's more attractive?
The guy that comes to you and says, Oh, I don't know how we're gonna pay rent this month, or he shuts up, you don't know about it, he goes and talks to his friends, figures out a way, and comes back and pays the rent.
The reality is women are not equipped to handle male problems.
Because you guys, with all due respect, women aren't loyal.
And what I mean by this is you guys are not inherently loyal creatures.
You guys are loyal to the strongest man that can protect you and provide for you.
So this is why women, yeah, this is this is a biological thing.
Look it up, Briffwood's law.
Bruffle's law basically states that as long as a man provides value, woman will continue.
Are you paying it?
Are you paying it?
She's not even paying attention, bro.
No, no, I was no, I was paying I was paying attention to what y'all did.
She doesn't pay attention.
I no, I was probably sentence I said.
But you said you said men are Go ahead.
What is the last sentence I said?
They said change the topic, but uh honestly, I don't feel like men can be able to reach other heights that they can reach with women.
Without a chance to do that.
I just explained to you why men both reach more heights.
Do you only choose if you choose to vent to a man?
Do you choose to vent to other men or do you choose to lay down with a woman?
like that's what I'm saying.
That's too complete.
What do you vote?
No, but that's what I'm saying.
When you open up to somebody, who do you open up to?
To other men that are actually equipped to handle your problems.
Women cannot fix it.
Are they feminine men?
Are they masculine men?
Yeah, masculine men.
Because are they extremely understanding men?
Have they been raised the right way in a decent parent home?
That's irrelevant.
What matters?
Okay, so this comes back to the to the the problem that women don't understand men.
I said it earlier.
When men talk to men and have a problem, they're looking for solution.
When women talk to other women, they're looking for comfort.
We don't give a fuck about comfort.
You care about comfort.
We want a solution.
A woman is not going to give you a solution to your masculine problem.
All it can do is hurt you.
When you sit there and say, Oh, no, I'm gonna pay the bills, and you sit there and you cry, she'll console you in the back and shit, but then she's gonna say, Damn, this nigga's a bitch.
I'm gonna go find somebody else.
So the reality is women are not equipped to handle masculine problems.
They're just not.
Women look for comfort.
We look for solutions.
Going to a woman to try to get your problem fixed is futile because women don't really give a shit about helping men that can't help themselves.
Can I can I speak?
What about a working woman?
Somebody who works avidly.
That's even worse.
A woman who works.
That's even worse.
Or if a man say, Oh, we can't get this bill paid, you'd be like, oh, okay, what about this?
Some women, believe it or not, no offense.
In certain places, they sell their they start selling their bodies to be able to structure the home.
To be able to they hit the strip club, they hit all different stuff, they grind, have two, three jobs.
And then they will so they can be able to keep the house and then they will leave because they stay around.
Women even make their own money in bad situations.
When women make their own money, the last thing they want to do is support a man.
Last thing they want to do is support a man.
Believe it or not, no, when women make good money, when women make good money, they don't when women make money, they don't need a man because they make enough money.
They have something.
Okay, repeat that sentence again.
When women make enough money, they don't really need a man.
Okay, say that one more time again.
When r make enough money When women make what?
What did you say?
When women make money, enough money, they really don't need a man.
You do understand your sentence just defeated your entire argument, right?
No, it didn't.
It didn't.
But that's what I'm saying.
You said you said women's can't you said women cannot be able to fight off or offend to for the household if you if they couldn't pay rent.
But here's here's the thing.
If they as a man, if does a man have to work harder or does the woman have to work for her?
First, I said I said, if a man can't provide a woman's gonna get rid of them.
Then you said, Oh no, but women can make their own money.
I said, Okay.
If they make their own money, it's gonna be even worse.
Then you literally follow up and say, Yeah, if women make their own money, they don't need a man.
That's very much true.
That is very much true.
But I'm saying what I was saying.
Not a man.
Can I say so?
Alright, yeah, I think you got voted out.
We'll move no, she's voted out.
She's voted out.
She's voted out.
Yeah, you can come.
You can come in.
She got voted out.
Men need men need women's support to be able to keep move forward.
If not, they end up like hard men and always feel like they need to do the right thing.
Let's just be honest with that.
And that's what women want.
Go ahead.
Hi, Cherry's back.
Um, I don't necessarily disagree, but I'm not gonna lie to you.
Um, men definitely like to be little spoons sometimes, so men like to express, you know, their feelings towards a woman just a little bit, like they want to be comforted sometimes because then you wouldn't be having the fucking six two guy with like the five, six, five, three girl over here hugging up on him, trying to like you know, giving him comfort.
You'd be surprised how many men want to be little spoon.
You really would be surprised.
I'm not saying your argument is wrong.
What I am saying is that there are still men out there who are like they have that sensitivity in them where maybe they didn't get it from their moms, um, which I think she was trying to touch on like how they were raised, but like men sometimes they in most situations, he's probably gonna go to his bros because he's gonna be like, alright.
But then there could be that one time where like men like to be baby too.
Like, not all men want to be strong all goddamn day long.
Like sometimes they want to be like their girlfriend's little baby, and you can't you can't be your homeboys little baby because he's gonna make you be a man.
The argument is if women didn't have titties and ass, men wouldn't really talk to them.
In other words, women provide very little value outside of their sexuality.
Okay, that was the question.
That was that's that was the prompt, yes.
So how the hell we can't Okay, my bad.
I'll be able to do that.
Her argument was women can provide um uh emotional support, and I was arguing that men don't really need emotional support from women.
They need, if anything, they need solutions from other men that are equipped to handle their problems.
I don't think advice from women is viable.
No, because we're giving it from a uh more emotional mommy stance instead of and not only that, you're giving it from I live life on easy mode stance.
And the other thing also that is that why it doesn't work is because you women lose attraction for you when you defer to their authority.
If I ask you questions, that assumes me and you are equal.
That's not attractive to women.
Yeah, especially depends on what the questions are about, because I don't know nothing.
Like women are like it's it's very simple.
If you actually boil it down, it all makes sense.
Women are inferior to men.
Women are attracted to men that are superior to them.
If I ask you questions, yeah.
Like even it's natural.
So if I come in and I try to make you an equal equal and say, Well, let me what do you think about this?
Can you give me your opinion on this?
Oh my god, I need your help on this.
You're gonna look at me like, oh, this guy's an equal to me.
Ew.
I'm not attracted.
Yeah, I need to find someone smarter.
Yeah, women want decisive men that kind of have it figured out.
Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I do say that men.
I mean, even if women didn't have the boobs and buttons of I mean, you're not trying to little spoon your bro.
So you need women to that proves my point even more.
Women are used for sexuality.
Yeah.
Alright.
Let's change the let's change the topic.
All right, what's the next prompt?
Oh, guys, uh Castle Club uh CC17 active for another week ninja, so make sure to get in there.
Um, not feministic.
We are not.
Alright, the next prompt is if you're over 30, you're expired.
All right, chess.
Yeah, we should probably do that.
All right.
Alright, I'm gonna skip this one for right now.
All right.
Cool.
Tell the lady of my wife to stick over.
Okay.
Um, Iraq, just nut up and ask my go on a date.
Okay.
Okay, no, appreciate it.
Uh men can cheat and keep that main relationship long term, but women can't cheat ever.
All right, fair enough.
All right, how many of you guys agree with that one?
That might be a prompt in itself.
I'll save it.
I'll say I'll save it.
I'll save it.
You can low key.
Thanks.
Bring on the 304's cooking time, alright?
Uh, going back to yesterday's discussion about the a la Akbar boy, being a jeep myself, the rebuttal would be that the girls in their culture are not like the Miami girls.
Uh, little do they know that most of these bitches are huge libs and feminists.
They're nigga, what are you talking about?
Yes, okay.
Oh, I know you're saying is he saying Muslim girls.
He's saying regular girls, they're liberals and feminists, and they pray three four times a day.
That's what he's saying.
No, no, no, I get that, but like what did he say yesterday's discussion?
I don't know what he's he's saying there's not much of a difference between Miami girls and religious girls.
Um that's what he's trying to say.
I don't know which episode he's talking about.
Uh take over.
Yeah, bro.
I'm telling you, bro, we're gonna do better than we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna our shit is better.
We are not stupid.
It's just some of us agree with him, so it's hard to argue with someone when you see their point of view, okay?
Well, that's just you.
Some other girls disagree, and they can't really um that jealousies overweight jokes.
After...
Music on her...
They've been going in!
After the new OP episodes, one piece.
One piece.
Oh, okay.
Uh what else?
That's it.
All right, cool.
Um what do we got?
We got like 10,000 plus watching on all the platforms?
Yep.
Nice.
Okay.
Um the next prompt is gonna be uh we can do that one.
I like that one that one chess had.
So, ladies, um, let's pull that up on the screen real quick.
And guys, if you got uh if you guys got a good prompt, we will select it.
Um especially from Castle Club or OSS ninjas.
Uh and I think we got some OSS things probably too.
Um, so feel free to look at there.
Um a lot, no, um a lot of those chats were also from OSS.
Oh, they were from there?
Okay, sweet.
Okay.
Uh let's go ahead and do that one with uh one chess.
Can we put it up on screen?
You can just show it on screen.
Yeah, the one it's gonna type it on the side.
Like, Like the one from that said fuck Jubilee.
It was from OSS.
Okay.
Uh men can cheat and keep the main relationship long term, but women can't cheat ever.
Who uh who uh disagrees with that?
And you can kind of come in.
He's basically saying men can cheat and women can't men are capable of cheating and women are not.
Anyone disagree?
Can we agree?
Uh no, this disagree.
Anyone disagree?
Yes.
Okay, who wants to come first?
Ukraine or don't forget the argument.
It's uh men can cheat and women can't.
I am saying nobody can cheat each other because if you have relationship, it should be pure and built on the trust.
So we are together to have a family kids and beautiful life.
And if you cheat, then go away.
I think his argument isn't necessarily that um that it's good.
He's saying that men are capable of cheating and the relationship won't be destroyed versus if women cheat, the relationship is destroyed.
That's what he's trying to say.
I think everybody is different, but I mean I would not forgive the cheating.
Somebody could forgive.
So me not.
I would not cheat.
Okay, let me make it simpler for you.
No, If you were in a relationship with a guy, what's worse?
You cheating or him cheating?
I would not cheat.
No, but hypothetically, what would be worse?
Okay, you wouldn't cheat.
Yes, no.
Okay.
Um why wouldn't you cheat?
Let's go with that.
This is my personality because my mama raised me like that.
And uh I for what I have a relationship.
I have a relationship to have relationships.
Now, why did your mom raise you like that?
Because she was like that, because she teaches and why was she like that?
Because her mother probably did her like that.
Okay, so it's fair to say that this has happened over many generations.
I think yes, because in my because in my country actually it's uh um very was judging if woman fucking around.
It was bad shame.
Now why is it bad shame?
Hold on, let's keep going.
Why is it bad shame?
If somebody knows that you're doing this, like wow, nobody talked to you, everybody to say the beach, uh, you are bitch, and it was big, big shame.
And uh so nobody wants to have this claim.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now, when you have the shame, yes, what happens to the woman?
Actually, the society would not like to talk to, especially the man would never want to have you.
What I what I by the way is surprising, like in America, the ghost bragging.
I'm only fan um only fans models, like they bragging to be bitches, they bragging.
Like in my country is not possible.
Even the girls would do only fans, they would do it very, very high and listed.
Nobody knows it because it's a shame.
Okay, shame for your family, especially for the parents if somebody knows from your parents'.
Alright, so let me make sure I have this right.
The reason why is because it hurts their ability to find a man.
Of course.
And it hurts their family.
In my uh okay, sorry to interrupt it.
In my country, the man always when he starts before starting dating you, he always asked the other guys and the society who is this go with who's she fuck, what is her reputation?
The reputation is very important because if your reputation is bad, so sorry, you cannot.
In my country, you will not be able to get like high state high status men.
Okay.
Uh possibly now.
Let's reverse it.
Yes.
Let's say the man has sex with a bunch of women.
Does his ability to get women be hurt by that?
Uh yeah, it's a different.
It's a different.
It's a different.
Okay.
So thank you for approving my point.
For me.
Yep.
So now you see why men can cheat and women can't.
Okay, great.
I th I like that you demonstrated that for us.
Good, welcome.
And she's from the other side of the world.
This universal.
Alright, who's up next?
Oh, yeah, you had some.
Okay.
Men can cheat, women can't.
I disagree.
Okay, sure.
I disagree.
Why do you disagree?
Uh men can cheat, but women can't.
Um when men Let me clarify.
It's not that they can, it's that men are capable and the relationship can still be intact versus if the woman cheats, it's over.
That's what he's saying.
That's not necessarily.
Okay, why do you disagree?
Some men depend on that woman.
Believe it or not, I know it sounds cliche.
I know it sounds fucked up, but some men depend on a woman for I don't know what specifically, but they depend on that woman to keep that relationship going.
Believe it or not, it's very much true.
Men can Okay, okay, let's talk about the problem.
Men can cheat, but women can't.
I I said I personally disagree.
Let me let me rephrase this so you understand it's very what I'm saying is that men are capable of cheating, and the relationship can still stay intact.
However, if the woman cheats, the relationship is over.
Not necessarily.
Okay.
Why do you say that?
Because some men are.
Have you ever seen that?
Okay.
Have you ever seen that meme where he's like, he's like, oh, well, did you sleep with him?
Yeah, I slept with him.
You fucking bitch.
And then he goes off, and then he's like, can we get back together?
And she's like, nah, I don't want to get back together.
Well, ask yourself, why can do they not want to get back to why does she not want to get back together with him?
She just an independent woman.
Believe it or not, believe it or not, in my opinion, I believe women can cheat.
If the man really does love her and really does respect her as a woman, she can s believe it or not, she can sleep with whoever.
Think about porn stars.
They cheat every single day.
And how do those relationships go?
They they're still with their partners.
They're not actually.
They still have partners continuously every single day.
They can never make it's every porn set I've ever met.
So you're telling me a woman cannot cheat in a relationship, but a man can cheat in a relationship, and he can still be able to move forward.
But a woman could cheat in a relationship, but the relationship still can't be intact.
Women men forgive women too.
Men forgive women for uh you know, eating.
I mean, sorry, not eating.
Sorry.
Um sorry, men forgive men forgive women for being.
Oh, you hungry, huh?
No, I'm not hungry.
Yeah, no, I'm not hungry.
I know he's had a lot of people.
Oh my gosh.
You want you want you most of my dogs?
Nah, nah, nah.
Um, basically what I was what I was saying about that, but women can cheat in relationships.
If men really really love the woman enough, if they really have a structure and they really have a good relationship, she could cheat and she could leave in the relationship, or she could go sleep around with whoever she wants to and come back.
It might be a little bit more of a more of a pushover type dude, but at the end of the day, wait, no.
If he's a pushover, he's gonna take that woman back regardless.
If he really really loves her and really cares for her, doesn't matter who he's who she sleeps with, she's gonna always take her back.
Same thing, you know, and that denotes to the to the point that you said men, uh men are willing to cheat and women will take them back, but what if a woman takes them back in the situation?
What if he really loves her and really cares for her and he says, Oh, I don't care how much men you slept with, I don't care how much dudes you fucked around with, I don't care how much people you percent.
All right, how many men have you had sex with?
Do I have to say that?
No, you don't actually.
The was the purpose of asking that question was to demonstrate something.
You don't feel comfortable answering that question, right?
No, I don't.
Okay.
No, I'm saying you don't feel yeah, you don't feel comfortable answering that question.
No, I don't feel comfortable answering that question.
Now let's now instead of answering that question, I will let's go into peel it.
Why did you feel uncomfortable answering that question?
Uh, because it's just a random question that I'm just not answering, you know, because a lot of people just don't want to put their body count out there.
They don't want to just put their um sexual history and people that they've slept with and how many people that they slept with.
Okay.
They don't want to have to get involved in that.
But in my opinion, if it's the right female with the right attitude, and he really fucks with her and he really likes who she is as a person, he'll accept her for who she is.
Okay, let's kind of just regardless of her cheating.
So look, I asked you that question on purpose.
I didn't expect you to answer it.
Actually, I knew that you were gonna hesitate.
I already pre-planned it.
The reason why you hesitated is because women understand intrinsically that their body count is tied to their worth and that worth is tied to their ability to find a man in the future.
She kind of described it earlier, um, Miss Ukraine.
And this is something that's been all across the world, whether it's Hispanic culture, Islamic uh Muslim culture, Arab culture, Christian culture, Jewish Jewish culture, it doesn't really matter.
Chinese culture, all across the world, female promiscuity is always been admonished, right?
And you hesitated to give the answer because you know deep down, if you give that answer, well, that could disqualify you from certain opportunities from certain men.
And I'm not saying that to attack you, but I if I asked any of the women here, they would be uncomfortable answering that.
Rightfully so, because women understand that their body count is tied to their virtue, their virtue is what makes them attractive to men, and so forth.
What if I had a high body count?
Will you feel like my virtue would go down?
Significantly, yes.
And your ability to find a man will go down off of that as well.
This is why women don't like to disclose their sexual history.
And there's that there's a biological reason for that.
That's understandable.
Yeah.
Now, the reason for this is because it's easy for women to have sex.
It doesn't take skill.
However, it takes a lot of skill for a man to have sex.
If a man has sex with a lot of women, he's doing something right.
Whether you guys want to say, oh, it's ethnically, it's ethically wrong.
That's not my point.
My point is that he's doing something right, whether he has status, he has money, he's charming, he's good looking, he's doing something right.
Versus if woman having sex with a lot of dudes, she's doing something very wrong.
So it's simple.
What's hard to attain is always respected.
What's easy to attain is never respected.
This is why the brain surgeon gets far more respect than the high school graduate because that person had to put in the work to get to that level.
Now, hold on.
So now that we've established why sex for men is different than it is for women, now we can kind of go into this topic about um promiscuity and then why a man can cheat and a woman can't.
For a man to get sex from another girl, for us is just physical.
It's not deeply, you know, it's not deep like it is for you guys.
You guys need to have an emotional tie.
This is why it's so bad when you have high body count.
Because what's effectively shown is that your soul is gone because you're just fucking anybody.
Okay.
Men, on the other hand, we don't need those same emotional ties.
So we can fuck another girl and come back to our wife and be fine.
So when I make the argument that a man can cheat on his girlfriend and the relationship will stay intact, yeah, there's a high likelihood.
Now, is there a chance that he can fall in love with a girl?
Of course.
But what I am saying is that if the woman cheats, it's over.
Like it's cooked.
Because she had to get to a certain emotional position to be able to do that.
Now, here's the and if I'm gonna simplify this even more, I'll just say this.
When a man cheats, it's like manslaughter.
When a woman cheats, it's premeditated murder, serial killer vibes.
She had to plan that shit out and get herself to a certain mind state before she did it.
Because women know that their value is directly tied to their promiscuity.
Versus for us, our value goes up with our promiscuity.
So it's not the same.
A woman's job when she gets into a relationship is to just not be a whore.
Men don't ask for much.
Just don't cheat on us.
With us, if we cheat on you, we can still provide value.
We could provide for you, protect you, give you a home, give you kids, etc.
But if you cheat on us, you're useless because your only job is to have our kids and not embarrass us by being a whore.
Whoa.
In my opinion, go, go on, go, go, I'm about to give to the point.
Sorry.
It's cool.
It's fine.
Have your you'll be able to come in right after, I guess.
Yeah, so um, yeah.
Men can cheat and the relationship will stay intact or can stay intact or capable of staying intact, versus for a woman, um, it's cooked if she cheats.
You you disagree?
Yes.
Okay, why do you disagree?
Well, it happened.
Well, the man cheating on a woman.
A lot is a lot, the man cheating on a woman.
That happens a lot, and the woman usually stays around.
But women can cheat on men and the men will stay.
Okay.
Now let me ask you something.
Do you think this is a desirable man that sticks around?
Yes.
No, the answers are profound.
No.
Because guys that stick around with women cheating on them typically have less options, aren't as attractive, and have lower value.
And to make it even worse, if your woman cheats on you and you stick around, she loses all respect for you.
Because women know deep down that the only thing men really care about is not being a whore.
So if she betrays that one tri Actually, you know what?
Let's go into a scenario.
Let's let's have fun with this so you really understand where I'm coming from.
Let's say you're at a nightclub, right?
With your guy.
This this dream scenario, right?
So you're at the nightclub with your guy, right?
You guys have been dating for a year or two.
Let's say two years.
Everything is going great.
You're you you like him a lot.
You get outside, and some guy walks up, punches you in the fucking face, steals your purse, and runs off.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now, two scenarios.
The guy be runs after the dude, beats his ass and gets her purse back, puts him in the hospital.
Or other scenario, he doesn't do anything, freaks out, and doesn't know what's going on.
Now, would you stay with the guy that freaks out and doesn't know what's going on?
Would you stay with him?
No.
Why not?
Because I'm gonna think he's a bitch.
Okay.
Would it be fair to say would it be fair to say that he betrayed his duty to you?
Yes.
Yes.
His job was to protect and provide for you, right?
Yes.
Okay.
That's exactly how we feel when you guys cheat on us.
Okay, but hold on.
Let that marinate.
Just like the dude that didn't want to chase the guy down and protect you.
Right?
And get your bag back.
You feel like, holy shit, I don't feel safe with this guy.
I can't be with this motherfucker.
You break up with him.
Rightfully so.
Same exact thing with us.
If we're the with a woman, this girl's a whore.
She is a liability.
I don't feel protected with her where she's gonna destroy my name.
Going out there being a 304.
If we have kids, I don't know if the kid's gonna be mine.
So just like you feel like he betrayed you by not protecting you, I feel like you betrayed me by not protecting my kid.
Because I don't even know if the seat is mine.
So it's not the same though.
But it's the functional equivalent.
You gotta understand that men and women are different.
So what like um a big violation on you is not gonna be the same as a big violation on me.
Like we have completely since men and women are different and we're opposing each other, we're adversarial, there's different violations from the opposite genders.
Our biggest chief concern is you cheating.
Your biggest chief concern is he could can he provide or protect?
So if I don't do my job and I don't protect you and I let just let the dude sock you and take your shit, you're gonna leave me.
Rightfully so.
He can't do his job.
Same as if you cheat on me, you can't do your job.
I'm gonna leave you.
Because a woman's only job really is to not be a whore.
And my job really is to protect you.
But men love whores.
Yes, but not as a wife.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, they do.
Here's the thing whores.
Yeah, those girls typically don't get the ring.
Or if they do, it's for a short period of time.
Those girls are recreational use only.
They get rented.
Not bought, unfortunately.
Or at least.
Oh, the relationships never last with strippers.
Never.
But anyway, do you have anything?
Uh uh.
Never mind.
All right, fair.
Alright, who else uh uh disagrees uh with men can cheat and the relationship will stay intact, but if women cheat, it's over.
Sure.
You wanna go?
Yeah, sure.
Bruh.
If you don't want to do it, it's fine.
Uh oh, I'm gonna do it.
Oh, okay, then come on up.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Can I get the water?
I feel like it depends on who the main breadwinner is.
Okay, fair.
Because if the woman is the main breadwinner and she's holding all the masculine energy, I feel as though that at that point, then it doesn't matter.
Like if he cheats, then yeah, you gotta go.
Cause like I'm the one paying all the bills.
Well, that's that's where the guy failed is by even allowing the woman to be in a position of power like that.
And like in this day and age, a lot of the times women are like holding the biggest thing.
I would agree with you that um allowing a woman to control the frame like that and be the breadwinner, which naturally puts her in a leadership role.
Yeah, um, if she cheats on you, you did that to yourself by being an idiot.
But this is why I say men need to be able to do it.
Yeah, but then on the state, what I was saying in that same token, like if he cheats, then he would be like in that role of like that's not okay because like you're not even like contributing to the home as much as you know what I'm saying?
No, I mean, like when what I'm saying, okay, number one, when women have levers, they're terrible people.
So what you described before with when women have money, yeah, you're right, they're terrible people.
Um and they will go ahead and dog you out and be 304s and talk to you crazy.
The reason why I say men need to be the one, because here's the thing.
If I bust my girl around and I'm the and I'm I'm the moneymaker and I tell her, hey, go to the fucking kitchen, or hey, make me a sandwich, or hey, I'm gonna go out fuck some bitches and come back.
That's okay because that's actually a dynamic that women are attracted to.
Like women, whether they want to admit it or not, like that dominant assertive lifestyle, right?
And I can still provide for her, and I'm in my masculine, she's in her feminine by following me.
But when it's the other way around, and she's the one making the money bossing me around and cheating on me, cooked.
She's not gonna respect me.
She's not gonna want to be around me.
She's gonna go, she's gonna she's by definition of her fucking other guys, she's not attracted to me.
Yeah.
Because women don't want to run around and fuck other guys.
No, most of the time with women, she it's kind of out of necessity.
Women go out, have fun and get drunk, and the mistakes happen with women too.
Well, this is why I mean you're like a woman in a relationship?
Yeah, like men, like a lot of times, a lot of times where like the woman forgives the man, it's because alright, the man he messed up, like he went out, had a ball with his friends, and then like, you know, he may have slipped up and slept with this random girl.
But like women have those experiences too.
Like they might be out with those girls and like Yeah, this is why girls should not go back to the body.
Like in like full remorse.
Break up with her.
This is why like girls shouldn't be girls shouldn't be going out and drinking with the girls' nights out or any of that.
Like that shouldn't even be happening.
Well then guys shouldn't be doing it either.
Are men and women the same?
No, but alcohol uh goes in the body the same way for men and women, and it affects men.
Women in a relationship shouldn't shouldn't even be drinking without their man around.
Perfectly she shouldn't even be drinking.
For what?
For what?
Drinking is for hoes and single women.
Okay.
If a woman's gonna drink, right?
She's gotta be there with her guy.
Okay.
She's gotta be there with her guy.
But going out and drinking with your girl.
Okay, well, let's change the scenario.
What if it's like office party and then like she's like top of her game, you're top of your game, and like I don't even think women should work.
You don't think women should work?
Okay, well then that defeats the whole argument, because I agree with that.
Because it creates women should work either.
I think a part of a man, like being a man, right?
Is like you gotta protect women from themselves.
Like, are these scenarios that you gave, they shouldn't even have been scenarios in the first place.
Her going out with her girlfriends uh and drinking without you being there, um her having these office office parties with her colleagues, like working an office job in general, like these are shouldn't even be scenarios.
That's true.
Yeah, a lot of women have work husbands.
That's true.
Which is why women shouldn't work.
Okay, I get what you're saying.
Dang, no, because I was just gonna defend you.
Because like men, they'll cut their work wife off as soon as they leave that office, but women then she's like daydreaming about him when she gets home.
God damn.
Yeah, yeah.
Cause women have to get to a certain poison uh certain place cerebrally to even like cheat on their guys.
This is why like I look at it like if a woman cheats, it's like the ultimate betrayal.
The ultimate.
You gotta get rid of her.
Ultimate betrayal.
100%.
Women only have one job.
Fucking don't be a whore.
Blowjobs.
Women only have one Well, we went over this earlier.
Women provide very little utility to men outside of sex, right?
Most of you couldn't prove prove me wrong on that.
You didn't give any valid points.
So I gave you so many valid points.
Wow.
You you your are your main argument was that women could provide emotional support when and men don't need so emotional support, they need solutions.
So that's not right.
Um can offer other men emotional support.
There you go.
They can that and a solution for male therapy.
Without without without getting completely dogged.
Cause here's the thing with women when you open up to them, they use it against you later.
Oh, you bitch ass nigga.
Oh, you can't even, you know, I mean, you broke.
No, man, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, like it doesn't, it doesn't help to ever open up to women.
So it doesn't help.
It will hurt you more than it helps you.
I think women take it to the chin better than men do.
Like they're women are more willing to be like passive about it, but I think it hurts in the same like let me bring my bottom line.
Earlier I said women provide see how everything builds upon itself.
I said first I said women provide very you little utility outside of sex, right?
Yeah.
Then very few of you can come up with any point.
She gave one point, but it doesn't really make sense.
Then I said, okay.
Since women provide very little outside of sex, if woman cheats, it's ultimate betrayal.
Because we only really ask for one thing.
Loyalty is the only thing men ask for.
And then I gave the example with her earlier where I said, female loyalty is not being a whore.
What's our loyalty?
Protecting you.
Because she said right away, yeah.
If you don't, if he doesn't go chase that guy down, I'm I'm leaving him because he I don't feel safe.
Which I agree.
A woman has a right to feel safe with her man.
Like, if you know you're out here dating a nerd, girl, don't be mad at him that he didn't chase that man.
See, see, but by but here's the thing, biology kind of settles for that.
Women typically don't this is why women don't find nerds attractive.
This is why women look for men that are tall, that are in good shape, that are assertive.
Women look for these things already when they deal with the guy.
So what I'm saying is, rightfully for her, I don't feel safer on this guy.
I'm gonna leave him.
Men feel the same way.
I don't feel safer on this girl because she might fucking cheat on me.
So we're the same way.
It's just that we there we have different betrayals.
Our loyalty is we'll fight to defend you.
Your loyalty is not cheating on me.
Damn.
Yeah, that's it.
Anyway.
Well, who's up next?
Topic's done?
Alright, what's the next topic?
Or do we have chats?
How you guys liking this um uh this test episode?
We're gonna do this next time uh with with 20.
Um obviously we're we're starting the kitchen.
Yeah We're obviously guys we're doing it with I think nine tonight, but uh but you know in the future we're gonna do it with uh with 20.
Uh you know, obviously uh it's our first time doing it, so um for you.
Is it good?
That's from you, yeah.
I could do that one.
All right.
The next prompt is women should never leave their marriage for their happiness.
Women should never leave their marriage for their happiness.
Okay, you disagree?
Who wants to come on up?
Alright, go ahead.
Wait, disagree or agree.
Uh yeah, if you disagree.
I said women should never leave their marriage only for their happiness.
Like if their happiness is like, oh, I'm not happy and they leave, which a lot of women do.
So I'm arguing you should not leave your marriage just because you're unhappy.
Oh, I would leave them.
It's a financial agreement then.
That's funny.
All right, who wants to go?
Go ahead.
Yep.
Marriage should not leave women should not leave their marriage just because they're unhappy.
Go ahead.
I strongly disagree.
Okay.
I feel that woman should leave a man if she's unhappy.
Because she could always remarry.
Okay.
I mean, yes, of course you can remarry.
But what I'm arguing is that a lot of women leave their okay.
So women will destroy their marriage for their happiness, but men will destroy their happiness for their marriage.
Like women overwhelmingly initiate divorces in America.
And I think that's a problem, especially when you have kids.
If you don't got kids, I'll give you a pass.
But a lot of times they have kids, and that fucks up everything for the child.
Well, that's true.
I'll give you that.
It does mess up the development as far as the children, but they do not have to be raised by both parents at the same time.
So I could say that.
I disagree.
I think both parents is the best way.
It that would be the ideal picture, but what if it doesn't work?
So I still it was a woman can still raise children on her own.
But it'll be suboptimal.
So she's sacrificing her child's development for her happiness, which ends up happening most of the time.
My argument is you should bear it out, not be happy, at least get your kid to college, bare minimum.
I feel that they should not dug it out because you're gonna wait till your youth on that marriage on that man that is not deserving when you could just go out there and reach your goals of what you want to be.
What's the definition of true happiness?
Then being with an image that isn't a delusion world.
Well, thank you for proving once again that women provide less little value outside of their sexuality, because you literally cited your youth as one of the main reasons why you need to get out of there, which proves my point that a woman's sexual market value is perishable.
But um, yeah, I think um preserving your youth shouldn't override the development of your children.
That is correct.
This is why I disagree with you, and this is why I feel that a woman, if she's a good thing.
So you think your happiness overrides the development of the kids unfortunately, yes.
Alright.
Wow.
I think that's a big problem why we have the issues that we have in society nowadays.
You know, because if you're not happy with yourself, then you're not gonna make your surroundings happy.
That's my definition.
Why be in a miserable relationship of 40 years long just to keep the children happy together and be raised with an image that is not a good idea?
I'm saying at least let the kids get to college.
Let them become an adult.
I'm giving you a pass.
I like I'm not even telling you the 40 years.
I'm saying like at least let the kid get to college and become an adult.
That's true.
That would be a torture.
I mean, I wouldn't do that.
My mom did.
Um, she's still married to this day, but she believes in marriage, and I feel that happiness should come first.
Sometimes, you know, people, you know, that are married for a long term with long with a certain amount of children.
They tell their children they're not happy.
I should have left your father, or I s or X, Y reasons, and I feel that for those factors is unhealthy to stay in a relationship just to raise your children.
I feel that happiness should go first.
I disagree.
I think um the kids' happiness and their healthiness overrides your happiness.
Therefore, I think if you decide to get married and have kids, you should grind it out with that man and have the kid.
But that's fine.
Does someone else do you guys oh anybody else?
Everybody vote her out.
Okay.
Who's up next?
Uh no, it was her.
Uh yeah.
You disagree, right?
Okay, it was her, and then it's um women should not um Basically, yeah, women should never leave their marriage for their happiness.
Women should never leave their marriage for their happiness.
Women should never leave their marriage.
I disagree.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Why do you disagree?
Well, when you get in that marriage, the whole point of a marriage is a bond between each other.
As that time progress, certain factors ruin that marriage.
Okay.
And certain your closeness, your comfortability with one another, who you are.
And sometimes people just grow apart.
Sometimes people just can't stay with one another for a long time.
Sometimes they can't stand any stand each other as time progress.
So and that means both of you guys aren't happy.
And sometimes woman the woman chooses to leave that relationship, and sometimes the man chooses to leave that relationship.
Most likely it may be the woman.
It's always the woman.
Like almost always.
It's not always all always the woman.
Some men are men are just not happy with their wives.
80% have some men have more options.
More than that.
80% of the time women leave the marriage and initiate the divorce.
80% of the time.
Oh okay.
I understand what you mean by that.
But at the end of the day, in my opinion, in order to be able for both parties, not all the time women are um not all the time men are the the ones that um women are the ones that are dissatisfied in a relationship.
Sometimes men are the ones that are dissatisfied in the relationship, and they're the ones who initiate that.
Like for example, rarely Can I can I give you an example?
I've known You could give the example, but understand that the example you're gonna give is a minority.
The majority minority.
Like for example, my my my parents, they met each other in Miami.
They linked up in Miami.
Yep.
They fell in love in Miami.
They had me and another twin.
May he rest in peace.
But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, they're not together.
Why did she have to leave for her happiness?
So your mom initiated it.
She uh she had to.
So that proves my point.
She ha no, it doesn't it doesn't prove your point.
Some things are uh in dire need.
She had to leave that relationship.
If she did it, she was she could pass possibly die.
Because it was a f abuse.
Think about abusive relationships.
Abusive relationships, certain females have to leave.
Have you ever seen have you ever how have you ever seen uh so many movies where the woman has to leave the fucking relationship?
And if she doesn't leave the relationship, the man is gonna beat her to death.
Yeah, the reality is like like when women say I'm in a abusive relationship, a lot of the times we've we've we've basically taken this term abusive and used it for anything.
No, but are you supposed to endure abuse?
It's not about whether it's verbally, physically, emotionally, are they supposed to are you supposed to endure abuse?
Well, see here's the problem like we just call everything abuse.
So like if a if a husband tells his wife, make me a sandwich, that can be construed as abuse nowadays.
If a man puts standards on a woman, that can be considered abuse nowadays.
Anything can be interpreted as abuse.
Okay, so you can't.
And it gives women like the ability to kind of just like not take accountability.
So can we choose something?
You used to be in law enforcement, right?
Yeah.
When you go to domestic disputes, and the woman is the woman is basically saying, Hey, my husband is beating on me.
Is she alleging that she's going through abuse or is she physically?
She could have all the outside physical appearance of showing that she's been beat up and been manipulated.
So number one, when it comes to domestic violence, if there's one aggressor that beats on the other, most of the time, interesting fact, it's the woman beating on the man.
It's not the man beating on the other.
When there's one aggressor beating on the woman.
Okay.
Pay attention, please.
When it comes to men, when it comes to domestic violence, when there's one aggressor, most of the time it's woman beating on men.
However, that is not the norm.
The norm is they both beat each other up.
Most of the domestic violence situations end up where they both attack each other.
But when it's one way, it's from woman to attack a man.
So necessarily.
That that's what it is.
Especially think about all these.
Like for example, you're you you work out very much.
You're very fit.
You're very that's the whole point of the podcast, Fresh Fit.
You're fit man, and you may go after petite, you go after petite women, right?
You over you over.
I didn't ask for your opinion.
But you ask you might go after well, well put together women, right?
So if you go after well put together women, you know, you trump you power over her.
Even men in the gym, they're strong, they're built, they dress nice, they're strong, but they go after a petite.
But you're saying it has to do with physical appearance.
Some men trump over their size of women.
Some big men want smaller women.
Some they don't want another big woman right by the same.
It has to be because um uh domestic in domestic violence, big men can be over small women.
That's just the fact of the matter is my mom was a sure petite woman.
Just because they can doesn't mean they do.
It it's very much that's how the situation is.
The woman can't fight in that situation.
No man is gonna sit here and try to fight no female who is as masculine as her, or he's not gonna choose statistically shown, because you like statistics, men go after females who are more feminine, more more smaller than them.
They don't go after the females who are BBW and big, who can fight them off, who can no, they go after females who they can fight continuously.
Again, um remember, you made the the how did we start here?
Like we started with abuse.
I'm telling you that the excuse of abuse, women use that all the time to justify ending relationships, ending marriages.
But what I'm saying is a lot of times this abuse is valid criticism, it's valid um disagreements.
It's her maybe not adhering to what she's supposed to do, and women all the time use abuse for valid criticism.
I've seen women call it emotional abuse for uh her husband critiquing her or telling her, hey, do this instead.
So women use it as a fail-safe because they know that they're always gonna get the benefit of the doubt and they're always gonna get the benefit.
And this is kind of created this environment where we believe all women.
How many women say, Oh, he abused me, he abused me.
Because abuse is a nebulous term.
No, but I'm saying in the abuse sense of it, do you only feel like abuse is only subject to to physical?
Because in my opinion, verbal, emotional abuse, you can be called stupid.
You could call be dumb every single day, and the woman decrease in self-esteem.
Well, here's the problem.
See, it's subjective.
Do you call women ugly?
Do you call them stupid?
Do you call them dumb?
That's that's is that how you talk to women to be able to move forward and go relationship is the relationship.
You gotta understand that abuse can be interpreted as um it's a it's subjective.
If I tell one woman you're stupid, she might say, I need to go read a book.
I am stupid and take it as constructive criticism.
Another woman will say, That's abuse, even though I am a fucking retard.
So the problem with abuse, this nebulous term that women like to throw around when they're in a relationship with a guy, is they can weaponize it, right?
Off of valid critiques or valid conversation.
Because women unfortunately don't like to take accountability because the state does it for them.
Oh, he abuses you?
Sure, let's go ahead.
And here's the other reason too.
This is the darker side.
Women get rewarded for ending relationships, women get rewarded for divorcing men.
They get all this financial situation where they can go ahead and get half the money, alimony, child support.
So there's an incentive for women to say, I am abused.
So and the problem with abuse is it's a subjective term and it's nebulous.
No one really knows the definition of abuse nowadays.
So um, though there are situations where it's valid, I would argue a lot of the times it's used as a placeholder term to justify divorcing, ending relationships, and it's because of their happiness.
But the reality is they have a bunch of incentives to leave.
But truthfully, if if anything, what about what about think about celebrities?
Think about celebrities who are based off, you know, celebrities who make money, music artists, yeah, who get with lesser men who don't make as much as money as them.
But at the end of the day, does she is she the one who initiates the divorce?
Or is it the man who initiates the divorce?
She initiates divorce because is he staying around for the money, or is he really not happy in the situation?
That proves my point.
Women initiate the divorce, even in that situation you present.
You really think she's gonna break up with a man, or she's Gonna you think majority of celebrity relationships, she leaves the man or the the lesser partner is the one who's gonna be able to do it.
It's incredible to me how you bring up points that actually hurt your argument.
No, it doesn't hurt my argument.
I try to bring up valid examples and valid points to actually help my argument.
I actually study your argument debate.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
That's what I'm saying.
I even gave you, but the anytime some anytime I'm actually trying to present and trying to give an example or actually trying to bring a real life situation, you always try to subject it to make it to make it lean over lesser to more of a man standpoint, or men need this, or men need that.
At the same time, men are strong, but at the end of the day, if men don't have that nourishment of women in their life, what are what are they?
Because as they as they're completely going off the thing.
I said women shouldn't initiate divorce for their happiness.
I know they sh in my opinion, they should you said women shouldn't shouldn't initiate divorce for the happiness because of their happiness.
They're the majority who usually do it.
But at the end of the day, men can choose to not be interested in a woman and want to leave the situation too.
But never men never do that.
That's my point.
They rarely do.
That's a television show, but that's a real life television show of women finding their men cheating on cheating on their men and cheating them and continue.
They voted her out.
Okay.
Okay, that's fine.
So we be honest.
Never get right with this situation.
We can never be honest.
Alright.
Um women shouldn't end their marriages for their happiness.
Um I would disagree because um I guess if a woman isn't happy, that bleeds into other parts of her relationship, and maybe if she's not happy, she's um just affecting the children's quality of life, the husband's quality of life, and for that reason I feel like um if she's affecting all of those things, and that she should be able to leave the marriage that way.
Do women have high emotional intelligence in your opinion?
Bruh um I would say yes, they have higher emotional intelligence than men in your opinion.
In my opinion, I feel like it's subjective to what kind of women we're talking about.
In general, in general, yes.
Okay.
Um, what is emotional intelligence?
Emotional intelligence?
Yeah, what is that?
Um like emotional things, like uh sadness, happiness, anger.
Would it be fair to say like being able to control your emotions too, I guess?
Sure.
Okay, so why does the mom control her emotions for her kids?
Because they're in the same proximity and they live a daily life together.
If women have a such high emotional intelligence and they're a mom, wouldn't it behoover to like you know, control that use that emotional intelligence, control her emotions, you know, put on a happy face for a kid for a couple of years, allow them to grow and prosper in a two-parent household?
Sure, but what if she's built up so much resentment that she can no longer do that and it's affecting everybody and like mental health is a real struggle.
Well, are women adults?
Absolutely.
Do they have autonomy?
That's it.
Okay.
Autonomy?
Autonomy.
Okay, do they have the ability to um self-determine their future?
Agency.
They're adults, right?
Yes.
Okay.
So can't they behave like an adult and kind of contain themselves and do what's needed for the child for a period of time?
Sure, and most women can, but there's women out there.
Actually, they can't.
Can't?
Well, we can see by the high divorce rates, they can't.
A lot of women end marriages because they're not happy.
That's the censors.
Well, irreconceivable differences or whatever, which basically means I'm not happy.
So wait, what was the point you were trying to make?
Stupid.
That's what I'm just saying.
I mean, uh, you hear him.
But they're saying everybody's calling him.
I really I'm tired.
I thought you heard everything.
It's been like their coffee three hours.
Can I have some?
Bruh.
What?
Yo.
Okay.
Um, who's up next?
Oh damn.
Or uh it's Martin, it's uh one o'clock, so do you want to say what my daughter's Rumble?
Okay, let's bring everybody over to Rumble.
Guys, come on over to Rumble, Fresh and Fit.
Maybe we'll do some JQ a little bit over there.
What?
Come on over to uh Fresh and Fit niggas on Rumble.
We're gonna move everybody over to Rumble and then you can keep the OSS up.
All right.
OSS and CC obviously.
But yeah, Rumble and uh Castle Club and OSS only.
Come on over, CC17 or OSS, whatever you guys choose.
Um, but we're gonna get off of YouTube altogether because we already know who runs YouTube.
Um so come on over, guys.
Uh plaster the rumble link for fresh and fit.
Both local.
Yeah, yeah.
Both local.
But yeah, we're gonna switch on over, guys.
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