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May 2, 2025 - MyronGainesX
05:09:09
Hasan Piker vs Ethan Klein Palestine Debate Reaction!
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Yelling me get off of Twitter I voted for Trump, not Biden Know some niggas that went to that island Why the fuck would you go to that island?
Went to the denis and gave me some nitrous Went to the denis and bought us some diamonds Hiding that outro for niggas to chime in They just don't understand me I'm that nigga that's gon'urinate on Grammys Walking swastikas cause all my niggas Nazis Reading my uncomfortable chapters Before I go to sleep She wanna hop in a Rari She wanna hop in a
Rari She wanna hop in a Rari She wanna hop in a Rari I see that look in her eyes She wanna hop in a ride I said, are you ready to die?
I said, are you ready to die?
They telling me that I'm a bully I'm not just a bad fool They saying I'm acting like Hitler But how am I acting like Hitler When I'm a fucking nigger I'm a fucking niggered on the ride?
I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride I'm a fucking niggered on the ride All right, and we are live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the stream.
Sorry for the delay, as you guys know.
Literally, we're running a subathon right now.
We're live on all the different platforms.
I apologize for the delay.
Bills is doing a bunch of things behind the scenes to try to make this thing as smooth as possible.
Hopefully, we'll have it better when we actually get going live on Fresh and Fit as well.
It'll be a little bit smoother, but...
Oh, what the fuck?
on.
Hold on one sec, chat.
I don't know what the fuck happened there.
The computer just randomly locked.
Okay.
But yeah, so sorry about that, guys, for the delay.
Give me one sec here.
We got some, definitely some stuff to talk about.
Interesting stuff going on.
The other thing also that's kind of funny is literally Hassan and Ethan are debating right now.
I just saw it on my fucking feed come up, which is kind of funny.
We could jump in there real quick.
It's a bit off topic, but it's going live right now.
So let's go ahead and see here.
I think they're debating Israel Palestine.
We'll tune into this for a little bit.
See what these niggas are talking about.
Lawsuits to Redditors, to anonymous Redditors, knowing full well that they would be scared into submission.
You also posted about that on your Instagram.
Can anonymous redditors defame you and harass you?
Can anonymous posters who literally posted fake doctored posts, posted it on our subreddit saying I was banning people who are wishing a happy Ramadan?
Okay.
And that went viral.
I didn't know what the deal was.
I don't even know what the fuck that was about.
That was an outright lie.
Hold on, dude.
Let me respond.
You or did you not get your lawyer?
You need to stop because I'm going to ask you or did you not try to bully extort people that are anonymous stores.
These are stories.
He said some shit about listening to two libs cry at each other is honestly fucking hilarious.
Bro, let me answer.
Are you just going to fucking Lasan Lobby and eat them decline?
Okay, you want to make this Mr. Tourette himself.
This interview on Watchable, is that your goal?
I yeah, kind of how he puts a respectful conversation, even though Ethan is nothing close to respectful.
He's the biggest fucking shithead ever.
They got what?
How many people watching this shit?
88k watching live.
I think he bought it a good amount of that, but that's fine.
Right on, that was supposed to start.
That went viral in your community.
It was picked up by people in your community, leftist Twitter, TikTok, etc.
It was an outright lie.
It was defamation.
And by the way, those people should be held accountable.
What is this where I've talked about you?
And it looks like Osmond Gold is moderating.
So look, look at this.
So, you're accusing me of something I'm.
What are you talking about?
Bro, you're unreal.
I'm explaining the context.
How's that working?
It's totally fair for Ethan.
I'm explaining why.
Oh, sorry.
He's reacting to it.
He's watching.
He got 80K.
I only saw the litigation.
Is it ever?
Hassan, is it?
Ramadan, whatever the fuck.
I'm explaining the context, dude.
You're accusing me of something.
I didn't even know about this until this moment.
What are you talking about?
Bro, you're unreal.
I'm explaining the context.
How's that weird?
You accused me of something.
I'm explaining why.
Because you're saying that I'm responsible for this when I have no fucking clue.
No, I'm not.
What you're talking about.
I only saw the litigation.
Did it ever 116K watching him on this?
This is probably his most viewed stream ever right now.
Yeah, he has 116 on his.
This dude has 80K on his.
And obviously, H3 has.
So we have almost 300,000 people watching this shit right now, chat.
Is it ever okay?
This is like the Lib Olympics to sue a random correspondence.
You have had what does that mean?
Do you know why?
Provide our office with information regarding the identities of H3 snark moderators.
You know why?
What does that mean?
And then you're trying to tell you.
You just asked me what does it mean, bro?
Also, guys, we are live on all the platforms.
Fresh and fit, Myron Gaines X, etc.
We are running a sub with that.
We'll be going into the night, man.
So, sub on Fresh and Fit on there.
Bills is doing some things behind the scenes.
I'm going to let him do this while he watches debate and these idiots cry.
Conversation, or do you want to just talk uninterrupted?
I mean, that's what you do every day.
Let's have a conversation.
Okay.
Sure.
Do you know why we sent them that letter?
I don't.
Well, the cone, do you think that the context might be important?
Sure.
Okay.
So then what the fuck are you doing?
I'm listening.
I'm waiting for you to explain.
Just like you didn't explain why you had 110 Instagram stories, by the way.
Which was shocking to even you.
By the way, these people were committing continual copyright infringement.
They were posting clips with the stated intention, Hassan, of stealing views from us.
This person, we took down the DMC post and they illegal, erroneously.
I'm sorry.
Do you want me to respond?
This person stealing views from you.
How?
Because they say...
By posting on Reddit?
Yes.
Duh.
What the fuck are you talking about?
So you're admitting that you literally filed a fucking frivolous copyright infringement lawsuit.
Do you know what a lot?
Do you know what the difference is with a letter and a lawsuit?
Filed a frivolous lawsuit to try and stop people from criticizing you on Reddit?
Did I say criticize?
Do you know how many people criticize me on my Reddit?
I didn't say criticize.
Do you know how many people criticize me on your Reddit?
Oh my god, this is so pointless.
Imagine if I was fucking suing them.
How much would you talk about that?
You know what?
I want to ask you something.
They're posting payroll.
Bro, suing Redditors is crazy, bro.
I guess I get attacked on Reddit all day too.
We got literally a hate Reddit.
Suing them niggas would be crazy.
Say that whenever, first of all, let me give you a stat.
You've watched 11 hate videos about me since this has started.
Do you know how many I've watched about you on stream?
Your whole stream is a hate video.
Zero.
I've had zero people hold my hand through some obscene hate videos.
You've watched 11 of them.
Now let me ask you this.
Whenever I make a response to these videos, for example, the content cop, you say you don't have time.
Bro, I can't take it serious.
He's just like talking.
Bro, I would not be able to take somebody serious that ticks all the time like that.
Hate videos, but you're not willing to show my response.
Don't you think that's a bit cowardly?
No, I don't.
Wow.
Because what's cowardly is ducking me for the past four months.
Ducking you?
I'm sitting in front of you.
When you dropped the content nuke, I said, I'm willing to talk to you.
And you knew it wasn't going to look good.
Oh my God, bro.
As today has demonstrated.
I said, just watch the video.
And that's precisely why you tried to add additional qualifications to it.
Like, oh, just watch my video.
Just watch my video.
That's super reasonable.
Why the fuck would I have a conversation with you about a video you haven't seen?
Because it's me.
I'm speaking.
It's not a biography.
You understand that, right?
Do you understand the difference between a biography and a video that's critical of your positions?
Do you understand the difference?
Hold on.
Do you understand?
Because I'm not sure you understand.
It's not a biography.
It's not about the points in your life.
About your mom and your dad and growing up with your family.
I'm making specific arguments that I've articulated that you have not seen.
So how the fuck?
Very poorly, by the way.
How do you know that?
You haven't watched it.
Because I'm talking to you.
Because I've watched 11 hate videos.
And you haven't articulated a single good point yet.
But.
By the way, I said I would debate you if you watched it.
It's very simple.
I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why.
You were dodging as fuck.
Because I responded to your context nuke before the nuke came out.
Which you can't provide, by the way.
There is a video on my channel.
There is a video on my channel that I urge all of you who are interested to go and watch.
It is sitting at like what?
600,000 views?
Not that many people watch it as opposed to the content nuke.
Okay?
In that video, you will notice that months prior to Ethan's context puke.
Months prior to that, I addressed every single claim he made in his video.
You didn't watch the video.
How do you know that?
Do I have the capacity to watch the video?
Do I have the capacity to see the picture?
So where did you get the list?
Do someone send you a list of all my points?
How?
Why not just watch the video then?
How did I answer all of his questions?
Why not just watch the video?
It seems cowardly.
You're like, I don't want to watch the video.
Just send me a list of all the things.
So I don't.
I can't get.
I don't want to get my feelings hurt.
Ethan, you consider yourself.
You have.
Why not watch the video?
Consider yourself to be Kendrick Lamar in this beef.
This one-sided beef that you created initially.
That's right.
But I didn't respond to until you tried to de-platform me and people who are pro-Palestine.
Okay?
Who cannot.
By the way.
Let me explain to you something.
This is very true.
He's trying to get me banned.
He's trying to get Sneeko banned.
He's trying to get so many fucking people banned complaining all the fucking time.
Ethan Klein is a fucking loser for that shit.
Which is why everyone hates him.
That means you are infallible.
Why did I have all the information?
That's awesome logic.
Why did I have all the information that I actually responded to?
You want to talk about the content, Luke?
Can you name one clip that was out of context?
You call it the context puke.
Name one clip that was taken out of context.
Go ahead.
Watch my video and you'll find out.
Name one.
Watch my video.
Go ahead.
It's about me.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I'll show you.
Okay.
So one of the best examples that we were initially going to get to and then we went on a long drawn out sequence over sexual assaults is that.
One of the clips that you used.
One of the clips that you used in your context, Luke, was the claim that I deny rapes happen.
It was.
I showed evidence.
It wasn't out of context.
That was an opinion.
At the time.
At the time.
That.
They were largely fabricated by Israel.
This is actually true.
That thing that you clipped with me being like, rapes happening do not change the dynamic for me, which was about.
We talked about this, bro.
Can we please talk about something else?
It's exhausting.
That argument, quite literally.
Why are we going over this again, dude?
Defending the likelihood of rapes happening, Ethan.
I want to talk about something else.
Do you feel like that was an appropriate way to show that it wasn't out of context?
Ethan is such a fucking child, man.
man.
Holy shit.
Who cares?
I don't want to talk about this.
What's up, Frank?
Okay, okay.
I know you're excited, buddy.
You just came in, guys.
X, bro.
It literally wasn't out of context.
What else do you have?
I showed you.
Do you like that wasn't out of context?
How is it out of context?
How was it out of context?
Because that was an argument that I was having with a chatter who was saying, why don't you deny that rapes have happened?
And I was saying, there is a lot of people that they might have happened.
What about all the other ones?
Actually, what about all the other ones?
Commonplace.
Sexual assault is commonplace.
What about all these in general?
So without evidence, I am not going to immediately dismiss this.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
So you did.
So here I am.
You thought that was sufficient to show that I was actually anti-that I was actually at that moment.
I think I showed sufficient evidence, yes.
But the video is an hour and 40 minutes long.
It's very long.
That's one example.
That's one example.
What else is out of context?
Go on.
Okay.
Great.
All right.
Let me give you the master list.
Okay.
If you want to watch the context of it, we can also go through these videos as well.
Or you can just take my word for it.
Up to you.
What do you want to do?
You want to go through the videos one more or do you want to give me examples that was out of context?
Okay.
One of the other things that you have consistently done, aside from also the dude that you claimed was my fan, who now wasn't my fan, that you falsely slept.
Jesus.
You falsely slept.
Jiminy.
Jiminy fucking cricket.
Okay.
Okay.
Was the usage of the term inbred.
I use inbred as a as a.
But ugh.
Because I have that.
You guys, I knew you were going to do this and I have the clip pulled.
Let's play it.
And then you can play it.
The Jewish KKK brigades out there.
Just a bunch of fucking inbred hicks.
Imagine the most inbred white supremacist guy you can imagine.
Okay.
Every week there was another fucking psychopathic settler, inbred fucking douchebag.
Inbred.
Inbred.
fucking I don't understand Educated, inbred, fundamentalist hicks calling us in the middle of campus, calling us inbred, that we have no culture.
One of them grabbed my friend's Israeli flag in the middle of campus, carried it to a mob by the gate that were communicating with the angry mobs outside of campus.
All right, that's actually funny, though.
And it's true.
What he's referring to is that Ashkenazi's guys do have a lot of inbreeding.
This is biologically and factually true, but this is actually fucking funny.
Inbred.
Inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred.
All together, happy birthday from Switzerland, son.
And that's just the algorithm.
Okay, so yeah, go ahead and defend your continual use of the word inbred to just.
That shit is fucking funny.
Hey, you know what?
Ethan's probably inbred.
That's why I sick it all over the fucking place.
Fucking retard.
He's inbred too.
Because he has like 99% Ashkenazi.
So that makes perfect sense, actually.
And look at him.
He's like, you're talking about us being inbred?
Yeah, look at you.
Look at you.
You are literally inbred.
You can barely fucking have a conversation or make a sentence without fucking ticking off like a fucking weirdo.
Rare W for Hassan Biker.
Destroying, that we're destroying humanitarian aid.
When I was calling them fucking inbred, you were like, oh, why?
They're just nice young Jewish boys, you said, when describing that fucking video.
Did you?
Again, Hassan, you have a chronic problem with the truth.
Here's what you're talking about.
By the way, this is the difference between me and Hassan.
When I get criticized, I pull it up and I watch the fucking criticism.
Hassan opens Comrade KC tweets and snark posts and reads them.
Meanwhile, his dumbass.
Yeah, so he's making these comments about us being like inbreds and stuff like that.
You know, so it's kind of like fucked up.
Like, you know, it's kind of like really like, oh man, it's like problematic.
Nikki's telling the truth.
You're inbred.
Look at you.
You're a fucked up ticket all over the fucking place.
Their interpretation of my video.
Talk about Pino Pokemon.
You need people to hold your hand.
Be real here.
Yeah, I'm so scared of you.
That's why I wanted to debate you.
This is like, this is an ongoing joke with this community.
These are just fucking benign dudes.
I don't know what the fuck they're doing.
It looks like they're doing charity or something.
It looks like they got water or boxes.
Ethan was smart, he wouldn't make this fucking argument about inbred when he literally is inbred.
There's something like they're helping, and he's going, oh, look at these inbred fucks.
It's like, bro, who are you?
What are you?
By the way, even if they're doing whatever bad, calling yourself and no worries, guys, we're still going to cover the Trump interview with ABC News, and we're going to cover the Shilo chick who's literally making, I think she's up to like 300K on her gift send go or her GoFundMe after dropping an N-bomb on a Somalian or Ethiopian pirate.
I forget where that nigga was from, but still calling Jewish people inbred repeatedly.
Stand out, right?
Rubs off on Nazis, Ethan.
What's wrong with you?
They're participating single-handedly in a gentleman.
You're singularly to Jewish people as inbred, bro.
You know why fucking affects people?
I call all racist right-wing reactionaries inbred.
It's one of the fucking terms that I can use that isn't like immediately how he's getting so offended by this term inbred.
This is why it's so funny to watch liberals get mad.
Like, if it was conservatives arguing or, you know, right-wingers, we wouldn't get mad at each other, like, saying, bro, you're using the term inbred.
It's so offensive.
Like, we wouldn't care.
We would up it.
We would call each other more deplorable things.
It would be hilarious.
But these guys are over here arguing about inbred.
That's the problem with progressives.
Ethan is more mad about him calling him inbred.
That hurts my feelings.
This is fucking gold.
I don't think you guys understand how this is content gold having two fucking progressives argue with each other over the use of a term inbred.
Like, bro, I say retarded every day.
Nobody gives a fuck.
And Ethan is retarded.
He is retarded.
Like, what the fuck, man?
Into like an anti-Semitic show.
Why did you laugh when that guy said that people were calling them inbred on campus?
Why is that funny?
What?
What do you mean?
Because it's a fucking crybully claiming that he's a bully.
He was walking through campus.
What?
He was walking through campus.
How is he a crybully?
No, he's a crybully for going on Fox to be like, I was under attack.
I was victimized once again.
What was the bully aspect?
What do you mean?
When someone to be a crybully, then you're a bully aspect.
Where's the bully aspect?
Have you literally left your goddamn Bel Air mansion for a second and looked at the news?
Do you know what's going on?
An entire year of genocide side by side with people.
You know who's not inbred?
This guy, fucking Frank.
Purebred, high IQ.
Doesn't tick like a retard.
Niggas literally smart as hell.
Master race over here.
Okay.
He is the master race dog.
Higher IQ than all of them.
I'm not kidding around, by the way.
Border Carlis have like the IQ of like baby children, like baby humans.
Super fucking smart, this guy.
And he's very athletic.
He can run.
He can jump fast as hell.
He looks good.
Green eyes, green, brownish eyes.
This guy is literally like a specimen.
Okay, that's why he throws the Roman up proudly.
How you doing, buddy?
You doing good?
You doing good?
I know Angie's been spoiling you, nigga.
You've been getting a little soft on me, but it's okay.
She plays with you a lot.
I love you too.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Don't kiss me on camera, nigga.
That's kind of gay.
Anyway, I love you too.
All right.
Okay.
Let's go back to watching these two liberals lose their minds.
People claiming that Jews are being victimized on college campus has now led to some loser said stop glazing your dog.
Shut the fuck up, nigga.
My dog is better than your dog.
And you're mad because you probably got a boxer mutt.
You probably got a pit bull like a dirty fucking black dude.
Get the fuck out of here, Jamal.
Tyreek, whatever your name is, or Jose.
You Puerto Rican niggas be having pit bulls too.
Dirty poverty dogs.
You dumbass.
Fucking inbred dog.
You guys want to talk about stupid shit?
You guys are just mad that Frank literally 100% Puerto Colli, high IQ, smart.
I got a rare brown coat.
Okay, by the way, Brian and White.
The dude has covered eyes.
He's handsome as hell.
He does tricks.
Can your dog do tricks?
Hell no.
Your bitch can't even do tricks.
Your girl don't even listen to you.
Your dog don't listen to you.
Your kids don't listen to you.
Nobody respects you, Tyreek or Jose, wherever the fuck you are, because you probably got a dirty ass pit bull.
Get the fuck out of here.
Or a boxer mutt, some other poverty dog.
You over here trying to talk shit about Frank.
Fuck out of here, nigga.
I hate people that got poverty dogs or no dogs trying to talk shit.
Shut the fuck up.
Or you got a poodle, some other retard dog like that.
It's literally packing up pro-Palestinian activists.
You don't think that those fuckers dip shits play a role in that on Fox News of all places?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Of course you're not pro-Palestine.
This is the reason why nobody thinks you're pro-Palestine, okay?
Because you do this dumb shit.
Because you can't fucking see the world outside of how you feel slightly.
So you're saying people think I'm pro-Palestine because I don't like your repeated use of the word inbred against Jews.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that you're running defense for Kahanists who are literally.
I'm not defending them.
I'm attacking you.
How is me saying why?
You are fucking crying about me calling Nazis inbred in the process of them destroying.
They've been going now about the word inbred for what?
10 minutes?
This is comedy.
Planetary nade.
Let's hit live and see if there's still going on now.
I know they were released.
It literally happened like the day I was finishing the video.
Were they held prisoner for a year?
Were they held prisoner for a year?
Yeah, they were.
That's what I saw.
Thank you.
Okay, they switched topics.
Thank God.
Up Israel taking a bunch of Filipino fucking unaffiliated sailors.
How does it deter Israel?
Kidnapping fucking concept of deterrence.
How is that a deterrence?
It is a show of force to stop other, successfully, mind you, to stop other commercial shipping from going through.
They literally bankrupted an entire Israeli port.
I'd say that's numbers on the fucking board, baby.
And I, like I said, 10 toes down, support that initiative.
Because if you believe it's a genocide, what the fuck are they supposed to do?
Should they not, should they allow their coastline to continue having.
Okay, he's referring to the Houthis bankrupting, boarding these ships.
And it's true.
They did bankrupt an entire Israeli port company.
How do you think the Yemeni population should have responded to the Israeli genocide?
Should they have sat back and just obviously they fucking can't say from the river to the sea Palestine because that scares that scares you Ethan.
So obviously they can't do that either.
So it's what Norman Fink was saying.
Why can't people be pro-Palestine in a way that you think is appropriate?
Where your example is hijacking an unaffiliated ship and kidnapping 15.
It's not unaffiliated.
But even if it was unaffiliated, if it was unaffiliated, that wasn't unaffiliated.
You lied about that and you recognize that you lied about that for the record.
But if it wasn't people can look into it, it wasn't, even if it kidnapped random people.
That's like terrorist shit.
Why are they kidnapping random unaffiliated sailors?
How are you defending that?
Ethan, you know what's offended and kidnapping these unrelated foreign sailors.
You know what's their shit?
Israel fucking blowing up a humanitarian aid 1,000 two.
No, I'm not saying you're defending that.
I'm just explaining to you what actual terrorism looks like.
You are defending terrorism.
As of this conversation, taking on it many times.
Literally drone striked a fucking humanitarian aid ship that was headed for Gaza off the coastline of Malta.
That's real fucking terrorism.
And what the Houthis are doing, on the other hand, is resistance.
And it's not only multiple people just very good.
You're right.
You're so righteous.
Do you think that the Filipino hostages who are held there for a year agree that that was an awesome, you know, that was an awesome act of resistance?
Probably not.
Probably not.
Can you explain to me what you would do?
What would you do?
I think, well, first of all, I think that there's something to be said for stopping the cargo in that straight, but they're doing it insanely fucking stupid.
They're stopping unaffiliated ships and they're kidnapping unaffiliated people.
How is that good?
They're doing it bad.
It's not an unaffiliated ship, by the way.
But even that.
You won't explain how it's affiliated.
You said it's owned by an Israeli conglomerate.
That is an outright lie.
Hold on.
You're doing disinformation right now.
It was not owned by an Israeli conglomerate.
You said that.
This is a lie.
Galaxy Leader is a vehicle carrier that was owned by a British company, operated by a company connected.
It was connected.
It wasn't even, he didn't even own it.
It was connected to an Israeli businessman.
It was co-owned by a business that this Israeli guy was involved in.
Yeah, and that's all that matters is they just— The goal is to disrupt commerce and affect business for the state of Israel.
That is the goal, Ethan, you retard.
It's connected to an Israeli businessman who does business in Israel.
Yes, they're going to stop it.
If it has any connection to the Israeli economy, they're going to attack it because they're trying to hurt the Israeli economy.
That is what they're trying to do in response to what's going on in Gaza.
That's all Hasan is trying to say.
But Ethan is too much of a retard to understand this.
Owned by Abraham Ongar.
So what?
You know his name.
What do you mean?
It's co-owned by an Israeli.
What are we talking about?
There you go.
That's why it matters, you stupid fuck, Ethan.
And this is what I mean when I say Ethan is too dumb to have these conversations sometimes because he doesn't understand politics, geopolitical structures, economic warfare, like the Houthis are trying to do.
They don't give a fuck that the passengers or the people that were running the boat were Filipino.
They care that the boat was going to produce business for Israel.
That's what they care about.
But this dude is too much of a retard to understand this.
What are you talking about?
No, it's co-owned by a company that has an Israeli dude affiliated with it.
That's what I'm saying.
You asked me how it's owned by a British company.
You asked me how it's connected.
I'm telling you how it's connected.
You're lying.
And now you don't like that connection.
You're lying.
That's what I don't like.
What do you?
I'm not lying.
Israel.
What are you talking about?
The ship info is readily available, Ethan.
Yeah, I agree.
You know what I mean?
It doesn't matter anyway.
The problem for me, really.
It does fucking matter, Ethan.
The guy, one of the co-owners of the business, is an Israeli, okay?
The business has ties to Israel.
If the business has ties to Israel, that means it contributes to Israel's economy.
If it contributes to Israel's economy, guess what?
That means it contributes to the Israeli Defense Force, aka the IDF.
If it contributes to the IDF, that is who is attacking Gaza.
So that is why, by proxy, okay, when they attack this fucking vessel and they take it down and they fuck up all the cargo on there, it affects commerce, which affects an Israeli businessman, which affects the Israeli economy, which then affects the IDF.
You fucking retard Ethan, but you're too stupid to understand that is the strategy here.
Because when you hurt people from warfare, there's multiple ways you could do it.
You can attack them directly with weapons or you can attack them economically.
As a matter of fact, since Ethan is such a retard and doesn't get this, the whole reason we haven't attacked Iran, you guys want to know why?
I'll tell you why.
If we attacked Iran, though we would not be able, though they would not be able to actually hurt us because of our distance, et cetera, to a degree, they would only be able to attack military bases in the Gulf, and they wouldn't actually be able to attack American citizens.
The reason why we don't attack, okay, the big reason why we don't attack Iran is because it would lead to economic destruction for us.
That is why we do not attack Iran, because they would close down the Strait of Ormoz, close it down the Strait of Ormuz, where 30% of the world's oil flows through every single fucking day.
That would hurt us and it would hurt the rest of the world.
And if that were to go on for about 30 days, guess how much gas would be?
It would be about $11 a gallon if we were to do that.
That is why Donald Trump does not want to attack Iran, okay?
Because though they can actually hurt us physically, militarily, and or the citizens, they can hurt us economically.
And economic warfare is very fucking real.
That's what these resistance groups do often.
The Houthis have attacked Saudi Arabian oil infrastructure points before, and it's hurt Saudi Arabia significantly.
That is why they bombed the fuck out of Yemen.
Okay, guys, because when you attack people economically, it hurts them a lot in other ways that sometimes they can't even repair in time to recoup the money lost.
Okay.
So Ethan is too stupid to understand this, that that is what the Houthis are trying to do here.
It is another strategy for warfare.
When a country is too powerful and their military might is too powerful, the only other way that you can hurt them a lot of the times is you have to attack them economically.
Okay?
It is another strategy with modern warfare.
Ethan is such a dumbass.
Holy shit.
Oh, it doesn't matter.
But the point that you also presented falsely in your context, people, the problem is more the kidnapping sailors.
I just don't understand you can justify kidnapping a bunch of unaffiliated sailors.
I don't, Ethan.
You are.
You ask me.
Have you ever heard of deterrent?
Yeah.
Walk with me through this carefully.
Yeah, please.
Please explain to me how it's just possible to kidnap 15.
Ethan, what would you do?
You have a better way to do it, I think.
We're going to figure it out.
Well, like I said.
See, here's the problem, Ethan.
He's trying to make it moral.
And what he doesn't understand is that warfare is not moral.
Okay.
You got to get out of this whole like moral situation.
Well, wait, wait, that's not right, kidnapping 15 sailors.
Bro, the IDF kills hundreds of kids every day.
Okay?
They literally kill hundreds of kids every day.
So we don't need to get into this because if we want to go on the moral route, the IDF has already lost a long time ago.
It's not about that.
We're talking military strategy and we're talking why they're doing what they're doing.
Okay.
That's all we're doing here.
Like I said before, they do not have the ability to actually challenge Israel militarily.
So they must attack Israel economically.
What does he not get about this?
I said you can do it without kidnapping unaffiliated.
There were militancy resistance that cut off supply lines.
Okay.
Supply lines for the Nazis or even sometimes supply lines that actually impacted the civilians.
Okay.
Impact the civilians.
Do you feel like that kind of resistance was unwarranted?
It's completely irrelevant.
Why did they hold them for a year?
I don't know.
Okay, because they're terrorists.
What?
Because they're terrorists.
Yeah, they're terrorists.
They kidnap innocent civilians.
Are they?
So you so that are the people that are resisting against the Israeli genocide that you say genocide are actually terrorists because you don't agree with fucking methods, but you have no way there's no alternative.
You have no alternative.
That's not true.
I said just don't kidnap innocent people.
Nothing else.
It's easy.
Just don't kidnap innocent people.
The Israelis kill innocent people.
They could have done that, right?
They could have taken the boat.
They could have commandeered the boat and not kidnap people, right?
Is that possible?
Fair, fair.
Do you think that that warrants the standard of saying that one of the only groups that is doing militancy against and resisting against Israel's genocide, which they stopped, by the way?
They literally stopped when Israel actually followed through on a ceasefire.
If they were just, you know, erroneously and randomly fucking trying to claim ships because they're pirates, they want to live the pirate life, then obviously they wouldn't have stopped doing that, don't you think?
And they only started, they only started their blockade after Israel started starving Gaza again.
And then they turned us out with innocent sailors.
I don't think you want to go down this route.
I'm ready.
What do you mean?
Innocent people is terrorism.
Is Israel terrorist?
Is the IDF terrorist?
I mean, you could characterize it that way.
The IDF terrorist.
I mean, it's an army, so it's a different thing.
It's like a...
Why is it a different thing?
You think the Oslo movement doesn't have a standing army?
They have an army.
The Houthis to like a hostile takeover of a portion of Yemen.
They're at odds with the government.
Let's see what dumbass Asmagold is going to say to this.
Which is crazy.
So let's talk about that after this clip.
Okay, perfect.
Yeah, perfect.
And by the way, you're not going to scare us.
You're not going to scare us.
I'll just say up front, we can end on that point.
Oh, I can keep going.
I'm sure you can.
I know.
I know you go to bed tonight in a cool race car bed, but I have family.
Okay.
No, that's fine.
Why are you thinking about what my bedroom looks like?
It's kind of weird, man.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
You fucking badass fucking sports car bed.
It's amazing.
Very odd.
As long as the people in Gaza are subjected to a genocide, we won't stop.
Do you know all the praise that's given to the Danish government because it helped evacuate Jews during World War II?
They're totally distant people.
Did that for the people of Gaza?
If I were to give a Nobel Peace Prize, I would divide it between three.
South African delegation.
Number two, those doctors who volunteered to go to Gaza.
The Doctors Without Borders and others.
One doctor, he was Palestinian.
Why don't you leave?
Because he had the option.
He was able to go.
He said, I didn't go to medical school for 30 years to abandon my people.
It was good.
And the third, it's the Houthis.
If genocide is the crime of crimes, the Houthis are the hero of heroes.
Yeah, I mean, the first two examples, I definitely agree.
I think it's psychotic to give the Houthis a peace prize.
That's, yeah, that's why what the fuck have they done for peace other than kidnap innocent civilians?
What have they done for their own purpose?
This is the poorest country on earth.
That is the material.
The Houthis, the Houthis have.
What does this have to do with the river in the sea?
Material consequences for Israel as it has implemented a genocide.
All right, let's give them a peace prize.
Whatever.
I don't care.
Let's give them a peace prize.
They deserve it.
Yes, absolutely.
Without a doubt.
Don't ask the unaffiliated prison.
I'll give you guys my take on this here in a second on the shit with are they terrorists or not?
You're missing the horrors for the trees.
Right.
Here, I'll give you a great example of this, by the way, because you spent a lot of time being like, the Houthis are bad.
They're homophobic.
I'm like, I'm sure they are.
Holy shit.
Also, Dan, it keeps swishing back to me on my end.
Sorry.
Let's talk about the issue of the stuff.
Okay.
Hold on.
I know you keep saying, oh, it doesn't matter.
This is boring.
Whenever you come across a minute, talk and talk.
It makes the video unwatchable.
You said the Houthis are the Houthis are barbaric.
They're homophobic.
They hate women.
All this shit, right?
And I'm sure a lot of that is correct.
Of course it is.
It is the fucking poorest nation on the planet.
And all of this bigotry of low expectations.
Fucking death and destruction.
This doesn't justify.
This doesn't justify having that sort of opinion, of course, but it certainly understands, don't you think?
Certainly is part of the point, part of the problem.
And the best possible way to probably get them to have a civil rights movement to give gays rights would probably be to stop fucking bombing.
That's what Joe Biden did.
As Donald Trump has done.
Yeah, that wasn't my chief criticism.
And again, my criticism is that they're kidnapping civilians.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
You don't like their methods, but you have no alternative.
You don't like their methods.
I said, just do it without kidnapping civilians, dude.
It's not right.
Let's get back to the IDF.
You said the IDF is maybe not a terror organization, but the IDF is a terrorist organization.
Wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Again, a liar.
Okay, so you think the IDF is a terror organization?
I said yes.
I think it's fair to characterize them that way.
Okay.
So then what the fuck are you crying about?
Was in the IDF.
Yeah.
Do you believe your wife is a terrorist?
Of course not.
You have considered a 19-year-old Yemeni TikToker who is not even a part of the Al-Houthi family with no Houthi affiliation, but simply a person that says he stands with the Houthis.
And I do too, a terrorist over and over again because he has a gun in the second highest gun.
Because he had a gun?
That is a capital.
And because he responded to a fucking Instagram comment saying he's a soldier, a dude who doesn't even speak English.
Let's watch this.
You kept claiming that he was a terrorist over and over again.
His name is Rashed Al-Khadal.
He is not even a fucking Zaidi Shia.
He's not even a part of the Houthi family.
Let's watch the Houthi family.
His last name would be Al-Houthi, not Al-Hadal.
Okay?
Let's watch that.
No, that is a dunk, you retards, because he literally asked them, is the IDF terrorist?
He said, well, you can characterize it that way.
So is your wife a terrorist?
Oh, his wife's certain in the IDF.
He fucking got him.
And here's the other thing, too, just so you guys understand.
I've said this a million times and I'll say it again.
Here's the reality.
What is the definition of terrorism?
The definition of terrorism is committing acts of violence to push a political, racial, or some other type of agenda, okay?
A lot of the times, political.
All right, just for the purposes of this conversation, we'll just say political, right?
There's other ways as well.
We'll say political for this purpose.
Both the IDF and the Houthis and Hamas, all of them conduct violent acts in furtherance of a political agenda.
So technically, by definition, all of them are terrorist organizations.
So since we've designated all of them as terrorist organizations, we got to figure out who is more just in their terrorism, so to speak.
Well, you have one group that illegally occupies and took over a country that isn't theirs.
Okay.
The people that run the country aren't even from that part of the world.
Okay?
Benjamin Nanyahu is Polish.
Much of the Israeli cabinet are Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews.
Okay?
It is not their land.
So if you violently occupy people, you cannot get confused or shocked when you get violent resistance.
That's what's going on right now in the Middle East.
It's as simple as that.
The state of Israel was created through terrorism.
Okay?
Ethan is too stupid to understand this because the certain gang, Haganah, Irgun, they're all terrorist organizations.
Even the United States designates them as terrorist organizations.
But what did the Israelis do?
They're smart.
Like I've always said before, they rebranded.
They took these militant organizations, these paramilitary organizations, Haganah, Sterngang, Irgun, et cetera, and they rebranded and created what?
The Israeli Defense Force, the IDF, which is in existence today.
Okay?
So the reality is all of them are terrorist organizations by definition.
So since they're all terrorist organizations, then you have to figure out who is more justified in their terrorism.
Okay?
That's what it comes down to.
All of them are.
The only difference between the IDF and these Arab groups is that they are funded, fed, and the best prepared terrorist organization.
That's true.
That's not what...
Let me show you.
Do you think that if Anne Frank?
Do you think that if Anne Frank took up arms against the Nazi occupation?
Take up arms against Nazis.
This was not occupying Yemen.
What about the people that are taking prisoners?
Personally, every single day in this region, American imperialism is occupied by the people.
You say the Saudis said this.
Why don't they say death to Saudi Arabia on their flag?
Why is it Jews?
Why is it damned?
They're directly fighting Saudi Arabia.
Oh, you see the sword, David.
Of course they hate Jews.
What about their, why does their flag say death to fucking Israel and damn the Jews?
Their flag says death to America, death to Israel, a curse upon the Jews.
Damn the Jews.
I have cursed them.
Time and time again.
That is kind of gauche.
Not acceptable.
Not appropriate by Western standards.
But if you listen to what standards are they appropriate, bro.
Marm has a clip on that too.
Do you want to see?
No, I'm sure the standards are not appropriate.
No, I want to show you this.
Okay.
You're talking and talking and talking and talking.
See, here's the thing, right?
And this is, again, I wish if I was in this debate, I'd be cleaning Ethan out.
Here's the reality.
Israelis feel the same exact way.
FYI.
We talked about this yesterday.
A majority of Israelis, if you gave them a button to get rid of Gaza, get rid of their adversaries, they would get rid of them immediately.
Both parties hate each other.
It is what it is.
But why is it that when the Israelis hate the Arabs, nobody gives a fuck?
But if the Arabs hate them back, then it is a, then they do give a fuck.
Through his asshole and out of his mouth.
Not so good.
Or how Hassan likes to say it, a pike for a cop.
Okay, why would he retweet this article called Houthis Use Social Media to Boost Global Prominence and Support?
See, now this is where Hassan, because the problem is that Hassan is trying to frame it as these guys aren't terrorists.
The reality is they are.
But that's not the argument.
The argument is they're all terrorists.
Who's more justified in their said terrorism?
That's the real argument here.
Okay?
Because what Ethan is doing is he's deflecting on this whole, oh, they're terrorists, blah, blah.
I'll give you that.
They are terrorists, but so is IDF.
So is Israel.
Why did he say yes?
Are you a soldier?
Bro, he doesn't even know what to do.
Wait, why would you say that?
Oh, he's a soldier.
Even if he is, even if he is, even if he is.
So he admits it.
He is.
I'm going to ask you a question very clearly and very deliberately.
If Anne Frank, just like Ann Frank, if we had the internet during the time of the Holocaust, Anne Frank posted about this is what we're going to do to the Nazis.
Would your analysis of Anne Frank change even a little bit?
Even an IDF.
Absolutely.
Of course.
Because she's famous for being a pacifist, not tweeting out that's all Zionists.
She's famous for seeing the good in people.
Yeah, but the people that actually created the state of Israel, you know, people like Menachem Begin and a lot of these other guys, all these guys, they were all formerly in militant Israeli groups that conducted violence, okay, to displace the Palestinians to create the state of Israel.
The state of Israel and the founding fathers of Israel all conducted terrorism to create the state of Israel.
And this is why Hassan needs to get off of this topic of trying to defend these guys and say that they're not terrorists.
Just concede that they're terrorists and argue about who is more justified in their use of force.
That is the best way to argue with these retards, okay?
Because people get hung up on terrorism, et cetera.
That doesn't matter.
What matters is both the parties are using force.
Who is more justified in said use of force?
That is what you have to talk about.
That is what you have to debate.
Hassan is fighting a losing battle here, trying to say that they're not terrorists when they actually are.
By definition, they are, but so is the IDF.
And that's what he needs to grill Ethan Klein on.
Been thinking, not nuke Israel, not a pike through Zionist activists.
What are we talking about?
I can't believe we're discussing the posts of a dude in Yemen you really like to be 19 fucking years old.
Well, you said he's not a Houthi.
I mean, you went on and on and on and on about how he's just some random fucking innocent kid that you platformed here and blazed the fuck up by the way.
Which is being terrible jerk.
See, this is this is Hassan fucked up here.
He should not have gone down this road of saying he's not a Houthi, he's not a terrorist, blah, blah, blah.
That doesn't matter.
He should have just said, cool, he is, but so is the IDF.
Let's go ahead and get into a battle of who's more justified.
Then he cleans out Ethan Klein.
Then he cleans him out because we have documented history of Israel participating in terrorism.
Menachem Begin, this guy right here, who I will show you guys, I've shown you guys this guy a million times, but I do think it's very important.
Okay?
This dude right here literally is called the father of terrorism, chat.
This guy is called the father of terrorism.
And he ended up becoming a prime minister.
Okay?
So the only difference between Arabs committing acts of terror and Israelis committing acts of terror is that the Israelis had the positioning, the support, the backing to conduct their terrorism and then be able to create a state out of it.
That is the difference.
That is what they should be debating.
But this is the problem.
Ethan is stupid.
And since Hassan is a stupid progressive, he has to go ahead and make the moral argument of he's not a terrorist.
Fuck that shit.
Fuck that shit.
And this is why, if you guys can see, they're getting hung up on terms.
This is the problem with liberals.
Watching this debate is very telling because they're more concerned with terminology like inbred, terrorism, et cetera, versus actually talking about the facts.
Okay?
Now we're getting into a debate of semantics and titles.
And is he a terrorist?
Is he not?
That's irrelevant, dude.
That's irrelevant.
Okay?
And now Ethan is walking him through this stupid fucking argument, right?
And dumbass Osman Gold is a great.
Like, oh, yeah, he is a terrorist.
Yeah, but that's not the real argument.
The way you outdebate idiots like these guys, because Ethan doesn't really understand the history of Israel or the dark history of Israel.
Osman Gold doesn't either, to be honest with you, as he drinks his Dr. Pepper, whatever the fuck that is.
Like, these guys aren't intellectuals when it comes to Middle Eastern foreign policy.
Hassan is, surprisingly.
And I'll give him credit for that.
He actually is intelligent when it comes to Middle Eastern foreign policy.
But the problem, as with many of these leftists, when it comes to this debate on Israel-Palestine, is they take the moral side and they don't want to be labeled as terrorists.
They're more concerned with saying, oh, we're resistance fighters.
And this is a very big and apparent Achilles heel that I've noticed.
I've literally, at this point, chat, watched and listened to so many different Israel-Palestine debates.
And anytime I see progressives debating this topic, because they only let progressives debate this, by the way, FYI.
They don't let conservatives debate this topic because then they start getting into the topics that they don't want to hear.
But whenever I see progressives debate this, like you're watching right now, they end up where we're having this argument about terrorism and them being terrorists.
And they get stuck on it because they try to sit there and say they're not terrorists.
They're resistance fighters.
Okay.
And the problem when it comes to making that argument when it comes to terrorism versus resistance fighters is it is a completely subjective term.
Okay.
I'll give you an example of what I mean by this.
You go back in time.
Our forefathers to the British government, George Washington, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, all these guys, they would be considered terrorists back then to the British government.
Okay.
But to us, we look at them as revolutionaries and our founding fathers.
Okay?
So one person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.
So it's a subjective term.
So if you're going to go ahead and go into a very divisive term that is subjective, I say, you know what?
Take what's objective and then argue from there.
What is objective is this.
The definition of terrorism is violence in furtherance of a political agenda.
Fine.
By that definition, the Houthis and the IDF both constitute as terrorists.
Fantastic.
Now let's get into the real discussion.
Who is justified in their use of force?
That's where the debate starts.
And that's where Hassan should be because he has far more evidence, far more evidence to talk about the war crimes, the egregious violation of human rights, the deplorable behaviors of the Israeli government.
And historically, have they been doing this for 70 fucking years?
That is where Hassan can shine in and absolutely cook him.
But since he's a progressive and progressives are so fucking worried about words and how they offend people, now they're still on this fucking topic of Houthi, terrorists, et cetera.
And Hassan, and he's given Ethan the ability to cook him on this topic.
He should have conceded and just said, yes, he's a terrorist.
Now let's get into who, both of them are terrorists.
Let's get into who's more justified.
I'll be strike you.
And then their lawyers might demand erroneous.
Which you admitted is sometimes worded.
Where's the link?
Mr. Fair use, Mr. Fair Use.
Yeah, do you know what fair use is, you fucking moron?
It's using it fairly.
There's a big difference between see now he's getting into this like stupid thing with Ethan where Ethan has a little bit of ground because Ethan's an idiot.
He's not actually smart when it comes to Middle Eastern foreign policy, etc.
Hassan knows this stuff, but he's not articulating his points.
And this is a problem also with guys like, this is why people like Hassan don't debate.
Hassan sits in this room and talks to himself for eight hours every day.
Okay.
He streams every single day for eight hours.
I give him credit for that.
But the problem with that is you end up being in your own echo chamber when you don't actually talk to people or deal with people that have different views.
Me, I go on different podcasts.
I debate this shit all the fucking time.
I'm on Twitter talking about this shit.
I'm on spaces.
I'm constantly exercising my debate fucking muscles to have my worldviews challenged and then be able to respond.
And I also watch debates a lot too.
And this is the one point that I see so many fucking people fuck up when it comes to the Israel-Palestine debate is this terrorism fucking angle.
And they always lose this shit whenever they go down this road because objectively speaking, they are terrorists.
But you have to put the shoe on the other foot and also say the idea for terrorist.
And there's a multitude of historical data that proves this, which I went over with you guys earlier.
The fucking hack loser who's obsessed with you, okay?
Of course she would say that.
She goes, name one question you asked him that represents legitimate journalism.
Okay, one question.
Great question.
Do you, what do you feel about anti-Zionist Jews looting many of the anti-Israel protests in the United States of America?
That's your most important journalistic question, which he basically said.
I don't think that, I mean, I find that to be insignificant, especially considering his answer.
No follow-up questions?
Why don't you ask him if he'd ask a follow-up question?
Like, Ethan, do you not care if they're Zionist Jews?
That there are Israeli Jews that support you?
I don't give a fuck if he cares if there's Zionist Jews or not.
What about what was the hard-hitting part about asking if he likes One Piece?
Was that hard-hitting journalism?
No, it was called humanizing.
It was called cringe as fuck, glazing, pathetic.
Yeah, because you don't like when a fucking brown person gets a little bit of airspace look like a human being.
So you're resorting to calling me racist.
They all have to say, Ethan.
Am I crazy?
Yeah, this is just so bad that he went down this route with Ethan because Ethan is such a professional obfuscator, is what Ethan Klein is.
When you are not intelligent enough to debate the facts, you end up becoming really good at filibustering positions to try to get a wedge in.
How pro to disrupt your opponent?
Settlers are valid military targets.
Right.
Who do you think is protecting the settlers who you claim?
That's fucking insane.
In the process.
In the process of being a majority of the people out there protecting.
Sorry, was Ela out there protecting settlers?
Well, she's no force.
She was doing a night raid, as a matter of fact.
And I didn't know what to do.
That's something.
Yeah, you're going to do the raider of Ramallah.
Smart bullshit.
Go on.
Yeah, your community doesn't harass anyone.
She was 18 years old.
She went on a ride along to Ramallah for some kind of fucking mission.
She stayed in the car and then they went back and that's all that happened.
She's 18 years old, bro.
She's a secretary.
Of taking someone hostage.
You called him it, by the way.
That person was a Palestinian living in his home.
His own living in his own fucking home.
And your wife was on a raid to Ramallah, which you have called a terror city.
Yeah, that was an old clip.
I don't think we're multitasking.
I'm not a valid military target in that process because you've said that settlers are valid military targets.
Do you think your wife is a valid military target?
Do you think your wife's a terrible title settler?
She's not a West Bank settler.
But she's in the West Bank.
Matt Epanada thinks she's following Ethan.
Matt Empanada thinks she's valid.
Your friends over at Second Thought think she's a valid target.
You do you?
She's a valid military target.
There's inconsistency.
Do you think she's a valid military target?
I do not, as a matter of fact, I don't.
Okay.
Can we please move on to this little bit of a military?
No, no, no, no, listen to me.
Listen to me.
You're making this unwatchable.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Okay.
See, he doesn't want to talk about the see when he said whenever he gets into real shit, oh, you're making this unwatchable because my audience are a bunch of retards.
She has participated in the kidnapping of a Palestinian in the West Bank.
You don't know if you kidnapped him for what reason.
You say you hate the settlers.
We don't know who's not the settlers, Ethan.
Your wife did.
They arrested somebody.
We don't know what happened or what they did.
What if he fucking stabbed civilians?
Doesn't matter.
I'm sorry, Palestine.
Do Palestinian terrorists never stab and blow up civilians?
They're placed under military detention.
They are not actually placed.
They do not go through.
Palestinian terrorists ever commit violence on civilians that we warn them being arrested?
They are not in the West Bank.
You don't know anything about Palestinians that are kidnapped.
In Ramallah, in Palestinian territory, your wife was an illegal occupier of a terrorist organization, also known as the Israeli Occupying Force, Ethan.
Now, I know people in the Israeli occupying force, as a matter of fact.
I've relied on breaking the way her name is Hila.
I don't know if you keep doing yourself.
He is.
He's a family.
Why do you refer to her as my wife?
It's bizarre.
Okay, Gila, whatever.
Who can't do that?
It just belies some really bizarre.
So here they go again.
Worry more about what words that are being used, man.
Jesus.
I have no issue with someone as long as they have recognized their mistakes.
As long as they recognize that that was wrong.
What I take issue with is consistently defending Israel.
You have also participated in the defense of Israel.
It makes no sense.
You're inconsistent.
You say it's a genocide, but people can't resist militarily.
You say it's a genocide, but all of the people who are outspoken are vile anti-Semites.
Ela was doing mandatory.
You're supposed to be able to resist against Israel.
Ela was doing mandatory military service.
What should she have done?
There's numerous options.
One, religious exemption.
Two, refusing to serve.
But even then, I don't have a problem with her being socially conditioned into thinking that this is appropriate.
So go to jail.
I don't know what she's saying now.
I have a problem with her.
She's a little liked on that and doesn't realize that that was an unjustifiable thing to do.
Okay, well, listen to me.
You can talk to her and debate about it.
I don't know what you're even referring to.
Okay.
Why are they arguing?
You don't even know what the fuck you're referring to.
You're just calling my wife a terrorist.
Like, give me a break, dude.
No, she did meditate.
Let me ask you a question.
Hassan.
She's talking on your part.
You got to let me talk.
How she went on a raid.
Secretary Johnson.
Being louder does not mean you're right.
I promise.
What?
Being louder and talking more does not mean you're right.
Okay.
It's good to listen to what I have to say.
Ethan doesn't like that his wife is a terrorist.
Description.
Did Gila not volunteer?
Did Gila not volunteer to go to the West Bank on a raid because she was bored in Ramullah?
Yeah, she's 18.
It's understandable.
You don't know what that guy did, though.
Notice when Hassan said that the dude was 18, Ethan was like, oh, you're still a terrorist.
So is your wife, bro?
If he killed people, of course he would be worthy of being arrested.
Ethan, is Ramullah a part of Israeli territory?
I mean, it's complicated, right?
It's under the answer is no.
I don't think so, but it's under occupation, right?
Okay.
So why was your wife in Ramullah?
Maybe getting a terrorist that killed civilians.
She sat in the car.
It's not complicated.
No, she was there to commit terrorism.
An illegal raid, according to international human rights.
That is the reality.
Now, are you upset if this person killed a child?
Would you be upset if this person they arrested stabbed people?
You don't know what you're talking about.
If she were to talk about, bro, what the fuck?
It's so boring.
No, stop.
Oh, now it's boring because he's getting caught.
My wife is a terrorist.
As many, as many former IDF vets have on breaking the silence, if she talked about the night raid that she participated in in the same way that just like Frogan says, I would have no issue with Geoffrey.
She gets to be aware of what's going on because I understand people can change.
I don't condone the raid, but I mean, see, we neither of us have any information about like who what actually happened.
You know what I mean?
There is no, you don't understand.
If she is illegally there, she is not supposed to be there.
It does not matter.
Her and her entire brigade was not supposed to be there.
That isn't.
She knew what they were doing.
As a matter of fact, I don't think she knew what they were just having to do with anything.
She's why it has to do a lot with it because it points to the fact that Ethan's wife is a terrorist.
When they're sitting there trying to say that Hassan is a terrorist sympathizer, this is very relevant, Osman Gold, you fucking dumbass.
Like, this is very relevant because Ethan has been running around for months, almost a year, saying that Hassan is a terrorist apologist last sympathizer.
But Ethan is married to one.
So it is relevant.
Is to create a constant, is to create a constant sense of terror.
We don't condone it.
She was 19.
She was doing military conscription.
She didn't know where they were going or what they were doing.
Thank you.
I'm listening, but you just keep repeating yourself.
This is what you're saying.
The reason why I want to know.
The reason why I know that I know that you're not going to be able to do it though, is that what you want?
Yeah.
Do you want this to be unwatchable?
If I was him, I would.
The reason why I know that, Ethan, breaking the silence veterans who have come out and spoken out against this practice.
That's why I know that.
Hassan, you say that Hila should have gone to, could have gone to jail and done a conscientious objection instead of joining the army.
Why do you pay taxes?
Why do you pay taxes to the United States?
That's your big argument, Ethan.
Answer the question.
Did I pay taxes and I'm morally culpable?
I know.
That's why I try to fuck with you.
Why don't you go to jail?
They're fighting against the goddamn government doing this shit every day.
Why don't you stand up for your—hold on.
Why don't you stand up for your principles and go to jail for it?
Because it would not actually stop.
Okay.
It would not stop.
The reason why I'm saying issue with Gila's fucking actions then, as long as, just like you said, she was just like, I take issue with the fact that she still defends it on principle.
Bro, paying taxes, right?
And then being directly involved in a operation to kidnap somebody is not the same, bro.
Not the same whatsoever.
Perspective.
He's a fucking terrorist.
He also doesn't see that.
She was there on site fucking kidnapping somebody.
That is not the same whatsoever ever.
And for him to try to make that connection is wild.
Make your point.
You made your point.
Okay.
So specifically, you said this, which is you said in the context puke.
You said, this was the worst thing I did.
So let me play it.
Okay.
And then we can discuss.
More Jews displaced than Palestinians.
that expelled them in massive amounts following the 1948 war.
In fact, there was more Jews displaced than Palestinians.
This was one of the worst pieces of misinformation I've seen in the fucking context, Puke.
For the record, it was crazy.
So, again, nicely done.
Let this guy hold your hand and formulate your opinions, but he's not here to help you, okay?
So you tell me what was wrong with the, what was misinformation about saying that 900,000 Jews were displaced?
Yeah.
You make a comparison between Planned Dalit, which is a planned ethnic cleansing campaign to, one, horrify Palestinians inside of villages that had actually no arms whatsoever because they had specific peace agreements that they've done with Jewish villages No, no, no, no, this isn't a comparison.
And then fucking hell, and then you are letting survivors answering it, you asked me a question, and I can't even fucking answer.
I'm not answering it.
You're not.
You're just going on and on.
I am answering it.
What was the exaggeration?
Ethan, about historical history lesson.
Okay, you're going to learn a little bit right now.
Okay.
The Iriasin is Tantura.
These are two very famous massacres that took place.
The brigades, the militant brigades, the Zionist brigades that then formed the IDF, including some that personally call themselves terrorists, by the way, Lihi and Irgun, went in and did horrifying kidnappings, throwing people in ovens.
That sounds like a bad thing.
And then the survivors left to tell the tale.
In the process, these brigades would go to each individual city and forcibly ethnically cleanse 750,000 Palestinians.
This is known as the.
What the fuck does that have to do with the Jewish refugees?
Answer that question.
I know the Nafans.
I don't deny it.
Do you think, do you think that that is even remotely comparable to Jewish people leaving sometimes voluntarily and sometimes because their governments had made left voluntarily?
How many of the 900,000 left voluntarily?
They were forced.
I don't know the exact number of how many left voluntarily.
Take a guess.
I would suspect that a big chunk of them, you're going to say, did not leave voluntarily, but that is not the case.
Well, you're lying.
And you're fucking dead wrong.
You brought up the fact that I talked about what happened in Iraq.
So let me give you a timeline of what happened in Iraq.
1932, they gained independence.
1934, Hebrew is banned.
Jews are fired from government positions.
1938, Zionist activity is outlawed.
Crimes as trivial as possessing a biblical Mac of the Holy and will send you to jail.
Damn.
Farhud program inspired by neo-Nazis Rashid Al-Khalini killed...
What does this have to do with...
Okay, let's keep listening and I'll...
Widespread looting, property damage.
1947, Jews were banned from immigrating because they didn't want them to go strengthen the state of Israel and they wanted to hold them prisoners against Israel and the West.
In 1948, the war begins.
Jewish banks were forbidden to transact with foreign countries.
Jews were arrested for Zionist activity, for economic crimes.
They were fined to the Ministry of Defense.
By the way, in 1949, a month after taking office, the British learned that they were planning to expel the Jews from Iraq before they even left.
Does this sound like volunteer?
Does it sound voluntary?
Does that sound voluntary?
Does it?
I sent you a clip.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
One of the most important scholars on this.
Oh, my God.
An Iraqi Jew by the name of Avi Shleim.
Yeah, I love this.
Let's listen to him.
Okay, let's listen to it.
Jews were convinced that Israel had a hand in uprooting them.
After the 1948 war, there was mounting popular hostility towards the Jews in Iraq.
Five bombs exploded in Jewish sites.
The series of bombs created a panic, which led more and more Jews to register to leave the country.
I bet an elderly friend of my mother's, an Iraqi Jew called Yaakov Kharkukli, who had been in the Zionist underground.
One member of his group, Yosef Basri, a very, very intelligent Jewish lawyer, and his assistant, Shalom Saleh Shalom, were responsible for three out of the five bombs.
Basri's controller was an Israeli intelligence officer.
And so let's grant that what he's saying is true and that three of the five bombs were done by Zionists, right?
How does that explain 150,000 people leaving the fucking country?
Thousands of years of civilization.
Because Israel constantly does false flags to grow their fucking ranks.
They've done it for literally decades.
Whether they've made false attacks to make Israelis not feel safe, so they immigrate to Israel, or they commit false flags to instigate war.
This is what they've done for decades.
Despite the fact that Iraq and numerous other countries have offered Israelis or Jews a right to return because they were being fucking Israeli front for numerous religious reasons.
Let me tell you an inconvenient fact for you.
I arrived at that conclusion.
Let me tell you an inconvenient fact.
I wonder why that happened before.
Before the bombs went off, before the bombs went off, 100,000 of the 125 Jews were already registered to leave.
Do you want to explain that?
Yes.
Jews wanted to go to Israel, Ethan.
They liked it.
Okay, great.
So let me hear what Avi is.
You like Israel.
Yeah, you're a liar.
You're a disgusting fucking propagandist liar.
Here's what Avi Schleim actually says.
Research I studied one bomb was lobbed, one hand grenade was lobbed by a young activist in the Istiklal party, which wanted to expel the Jews from Iraq and confiscate the properties.
And another bomb was another hand grenade was lobbed into the Masuda Shemtov synagogue, and there four people were killed.
And he was a criminal who had a grudge against the Jews, and it had nothing to do with the Mossad.
Did you hear that?
The first two had nothing to do with the Mossad.
But let's continue to listen to the respected scholar Avi Schlein, you fucking liar.
No, you listen to this fucking historian.
Yes, you said they left by choice.
They left because of Zionism.
They left because they were being threatened.
Let's hear what your respected historian has to say, you liar.
That's right.
Wait, listen.
If all this is true, the main reason for the exodus was not the bombs.
It was persecution by the government.
And I concede that.
It's not part of my argument that the bombs were the main reason for the liquidation of this community.
But my answer to my Zionist critics is: even if I knew for certain that not a single Iraqi Jew left Iraq to go to Israel because of the bombs, I would still think this is a real indictment of the state of Israel because Israel was created to provide a safe haven for Jews, not to be harassing and threatening Jews in other countries.
By the way, he said, and I'll quote it for you: we did not leave Iraq because we were Zionists.
We left because we were no longer safe.
He wrote that in his book, Three Worlds.
Have you read that book?
No, I have not read Three Worlds.
Okay, well, you're using a lot of source from it.
It's a book that he wrote about his migration.
That's the only book he wrote about this.
But go on.
Have you read any of the other ones?
Yes.
Really?
Which ones?
The book that I'm referencing is from the Iron Wall.
Three Worlds, okay?
He writes about his time in Iraq.
He writes about his time.
He's a lot of people in Israel.
He writes about his time in the UK.
In Three Worlds, he writes for his own family, and he describes their departure from Iraq as traumatic, disorienting, and not voluntary.
They were not proud Zionist migrations.
They were leaving out of fear.
He said that himself.
Yep.
Ethan.
He said, we did not leave Iraq because we were Zionists.
We left because we were no longer safe.
You are failing to comprehend a very important reason why I brought up Avi Shleim, by the way.
Yeah, because you think he supports your claim, but he absolutely does not.
Or the Spaniards are a fucking liar.
He absolutely is.
Contend with what I said.
Hold on.
No, no, no.
Contend with what I'm saying.
He said, we did not leave Iraq because we were Zionists.
We left because we were no longer safe.
Do you want to explain what he meant by that?
Explain what he meant by saying we didn't leave because we were Zionists.
We left because we were no longer safe.
Just answer it.
Explain to me.
I can't wait to bring up Avi Shleim on the broadcast to make you fucking look like a dumbass.
I can't wait to.
And now explain what he means by that.
We did not leave Iraq because we were Zionists.
We left because we were no longer safe.
You fucking moron.
You racist piece of shit.
Why?
Because Iraq and the pan-Arabist movements that arised out of my mind.
It is not about Palestinians.
Okay, so what did the Jews in Iraq have to do with fucking Israel?
You bigot.
You are the bomb out of your mind.
And then you screaming and you're right.
Yes.
Racism.
Okay.
During the pan-Arabic nationalist movements as a God.
Get going.
Israel had to do the knockback.
Do you believe that?
Fucking racist piece of shit.
Thanks, Hassan.
Do you think Iraqi?
Why is that what you think?
Were the Iraqi Jews leaving Iraq in fear?
Of course there were Iraqi Jews in Leviticus.
I've never said that.
Answer the question.
You want to call me racist?
Why were Iraqi Jews leaving to Israel?
That's why they left.
They left because I'm a fucking moron.
That Arabs have been powered.
That there were new powers.
Answer the question.
You're going to call me racist, but you won't answer it.
Why did the Iraqi Jews leave Iraq?
There were new government.
They hated Jewish people.
They had nothing to do with Ethan.
They were forced to fucking chase South.
They lived there for thousands of years.
They wanted to stay at home and they were forced to ban thousands to go to Israel because it was the only fucking place they could.
Why would Iraqis hate the Jews living there if they had nothing to do with Zionism or Israel?
Why?
Because settler colonialism.
That has nothing to do with them, you absolute fucking dumbass.
What does that have to do with the Iraqi Jews?
Do you think the Aliyahs were happening in the United States?
So you're blaming them?
Are you blaming the Iraqi Jews who had nothing to do with it?
What the fuck is your point?
What happened?
Blaming the Iraqi Jews who had nothing to do with it?
What the fuck is your point?
You call me racism.
You're not justifying the racism.
You're not justifying it.
You're not comprehending my point.
They left.
I've never justified that Iraq turned on them after 1948.
You're material.
You're lying.
I know, hard concept.
All Arab.
Yeah.
They all have the same.
I know.
Let's go over to your pan-Arabic nationalist movements as states.
Let's go over them.
Mostly by Western Jews.
You want to talk facts.
Let's talk facts.
Ethan, you got fucking a chat GPT summary.
Let me explain.
Pay attention.
Okay, do you want to listen or do you just want to add home?
No, I want to tell you my perspective.
No, you want to talk to you.
You're supposed to be attacking my perspective.
You called me racist, bro.
Shut the fuck up and listen to me.
Talk, okay?
The Iraqi Jews left because they were in fear of anti-Semitism.
They had nothing to do with Israel or Zionism.
The Arabs in Iraq, the Iraqis, turned on them because of what happened in the war in 1948.
They had nothing to do with them.
So if you want to blame the Jews for their own anti-Semitism, you go right ahead.
But that's racism.
Let's talk about Egypt.
So recognize that.
No, you're not.
You are absolutely not.
In Egypt, 75,000 Jews were displaced.
Okay?
Following anti-Jewish riots and bombs in Egypt.
Is Egypt Palestinians?
Is Egypt Palestinians?
Is Iraq Palestinians?
Why were the Palestinians?
They were forced to go there by the Arabs.
One of the countries have offered the Jews that were expelled or left on their own voluntary.
These are completely separate.
Nobody is justifying that.
They're not packaging them together.
No one is justifying the situation.
The relation is that Israel was created by Jews being displaced.
Discredit the plight of running.
And so that's the hard plight.
But I'm not justifying that.
You seem to be justifying why Jews were chased out of their home country.
No, I'm not, Ethan.
Why'd they leave?
I'm not justifying that at all.
Why'd they leave?
You think that because you want to drive home a point?
All right.
So let me go ahead and attack this because there's so much stuff here.
Because what basically happened here, Hassan was talking about the Nakba, which was the removal of almost a million Palestinians from their homes.
Now, Ethan is trying to say, oh, no, they left voluntarily.
No, they didn't.
They left.
Many of them left with their keys, thinking that they were going to be able to go home.
And they were never able to go home.
That's why they left with their keys.
There's Palestinians to this day that are old where they still have their keys to the homes that they once had and they can't go back because they thought they could go back.
Because if they did go back, the Israelis, the paramilitary organizations that took over these villages, if they did go back, they had a policy where they would shoot any single Palestinian that tried to return to their home.
So that's why they couldn't go back home.
That's number one.
Then what Ethan tries to do is he conflates that Nakba to the Iraqi Jews that were removed from Iraq.
Now, this is why I'm about to cook here.
Here's the reality, okay?
I've said this before.
I'm going to say it again.
The state of Israel has actually done more to hurt Jewish people and not keep them safe than actually keep them safe.
Because let me explain here because Ethan is too stupid to understand the difference.
Sephardic Jews that lived in Iraq that are Arabs, okay?
They are Arabs.
Make no mistake about it.
These Iraqis, Iranians, et cetera, these Sephardic Jews that lived in this area back then, they had been there for thousands of years.
Jews have been able to coexist with Arabs and Muslim communities for thousands of years.
And the reason why is because Arabs have a, especially during the Ottoman Empire, et cetera, they allow Jews and Christians to live within their societies.
They have to pay a tax, okay?
And then for them to pay that tax, what ends up happening is they don't have to serve in the military.
They don't have to actually engage in any type of government function.
They're able to live in peace and be able to exist.
And the Muslims, the Muslim overrulers, go ahead and collect a tax from them.
This is how they've been able to sustain for thousands of years in Islamic communities.
Okay.
Now, these Iraqis that were there lived there in peace.
They were able to live there in peace for thousands of years.
But now that we got the creation in the state of Israel, what ended up happening?
Ashkenazi Jews, Jews from Ukraine, Jews from Poland, Jews from Germany, Jews that were from all over Eastern Europe were flooding into Israel and creating a bunch of tension and creating a lot of problems and displacing Arabs.
So in response, the Arab nations that Hussein is talking about, the pan-Arabs, that united and said, okay, if they're going to go ahead and start displacing the Palestinians, we need to get rid of these Israelis.
And not only do we need to get rid of these Israelis that are invading Palestine, we need to also make sure that Sephardic Jews that are here, we're going to make it uncomfortable for them.
Now, with that said, not justifying it, I'm just explaining to you guys what happened here.
With that said, alongside hostility because of the Ashkenazi Jews creating problems in Israel, okay, on top of that, the Masad also did false flag attacks where they would create the do these operations where they would purposely bomb synagogues and or attack Sephardic Jews in these Arab countries to get them to leave these Arab countries and build up the ranks of Israel.
Why?
Because they needed all the help they can get to fight the Palestinians and keep them off of their land.
Remember, Israel is a growing country at this point and needs as many people as possible to create the infrastructure, to create the cities, to build up the military that they can.
So the Mossad and Israeli intelligence agencies had to work really hard.
There wasn't a Mossad yet, but the Israeli intelligence agencies and the paramilitary groups were doing false flags in these Arab countries to get the Jews to say, look, you're not safe here in these Arab countries, leave.
On top of also, had a hostility because the Palestinians were being displaced.
So the Arab countries wanted to unite under one front to fight the Israelis and get them out of there.
So that is why a lot of this stuff happened.
So it was actually the creation of Israel, which sparked and expedited the process of Arabs that are Israeli, Sephardic Jews.
Very big difference.
The Ashkenazi Jews created problems in Palestine, which then created a lot of discomfort for the Sephardic Jews that lived in these countries for thousands of years without problems.
That is what the fuck happened.
Okay?
Now, like I said before, the creation of Israel has actually hurt a lot of Jewish people and impeded their ability to live in peace and force them over to Israel because not only is there hostility from the Arab government, but there's also hostility and false flag attacks conducted by the Israeli intelligence agencies to false flag and make it look like Arabs attacked them.
So what do they do?
We're not safe here.
We need to leave.
And they end up leaving.
Okay?
So multiple parties are complicit in this.
Israeli intelligence, the Ashkenazi Jews, and the Arab government.
All of them are complicit in it to create this air of discomfort and unsafety for the Sephardic Jews who ended up leaving these Arab countries that they had been safe in for thousands of years.
That is the truth when it comes to the historical context of this.
And Ethan is too stupid to understand this, that the state of Israel actually hurt a lot of Jews with being safe.
Conducted a mass extermination campaign is because other fucking random countries were arming.
Iraq happened after independence in Azez and Jerusalem.
Turks were getting dispelled.
Yes, all parties are guilty.
I told you guys this.
Yes, it was the Arab governments, the Ashkenazi Jews, the state of Israel, et cetera, and Israeli intelligence.
All of this created almost the perfect storm for the Sephardic Jews to flee these Arab countries, but they had been there safely for thousands of years prior, chat.
That's important for you guys to realize.
Jews were the safest in Arab and Muslim countries because of the attacks I'm telling you guys about, far more than the Christian countries.
Jewish were shut down.
What's your point about Ant Frank?
Why are you trying to deflect away from what I'm saying?
No, I just think that statement was insane.
The six-day war backlash in 1967, another Israel victory for you, Mob, Jews hated Jewish princes got mobbed.
6,000 Jews were evacuated.
Homes were destroyed.
Synagogues were burned.
In Morocco, 250,000 Jews were expelled.
Anti-Jewish riots broke out in 1948.
You'll notice all of these most of these expeller pogroms are happening in 1948 as a direct result of the war.
Yes, but why was the war there, Ethan?
You fucking retard.
All of these things happened.
Why?
Because the state of Israel actually endangered The Sephardic Jews that had lived in peace in these Arab countries for thousands of years.
So, Ashkenazi Jews, this is very important for you guys to understand, Ashkenazi Jews invaded Palestine and colonized it.
That created an enormous amount of pressure and tension in the Arab world.
So, it made it unsafe for the Arab Sephardic Jews in countries like Morocco, Egypt, Algeria, Iraq, Iran, etc.
So, what ended up happening was they almost had to migrate to Israel out of a necessity because of Israel creating the fucking tension in the first place.
Why is this so goddamn hard for Ethan to understand?
Anyone that understands the history of Israel, understands the Jewish diaspora, understands the history, knows that Israel has actually done more to hurt the safety of Jews worldwide, especially Sephardic Jews who lived in these Arab countries peacefully and safely for thousands of years than anyone else, because the Ashkenazi Jews from Europe came in, invaded, took over the land, and that displaced and put the Sephardic Jews in a very bad position.
And the fact that they're not bringing this up in this debate is crazy.
Crazy.
People forget that there are Arab Jews.
Plenty of them.
Okay?
Plenty of Arab Jews.
They are Sephardic Jews.
Not to be mistaken, with Ashkenazi Jews, who are the Europeans.
You are a radical fucking propagandist liar.
Both trauma needs to be acknowledged by both groups.
There's two things that need to be true for this ever to be resolved peacefully.
You're right.
Palestinian self-determination keep doing Israeli's right to secure borders.
As long as you ignore that, there will always be war.
Palestinians will always die, and you will continue to make money from it.
Operation Magic Carpet.
Jews were secretly airlifted to Israel due to rising hostility.
50,000 people.
50,000 were real in 2008.
The PLO didn't recognize that as a matter of fact.
The PLO did recognize that.
And they wanted those countries to actually do a right to return for all Jews.
Why did Israel stop that from happening, Ethan?
Don't you think that Zionism is the problem here?
Avi Schleim said.
Whoa, what happened?
They didn't fucking send you that clip.
They didn't send that flim.
Avi Schleim.
Yasararfa.
The people that don't care about Jewish plight actually did see the guy who oversaw the second anti-fodder.
Be able to go back and do a right to return if they wanted to do so into their nation of origin.
I'm mad about that flight.
And yet, Israel was going to be a family.
You deny the flight of Middle Eastern Jews.
No, you deny the flight.
You deny the trauma of Middle Eastern Jews.
I don't deny the flight, Ethan.
Absolutely deny the trauma.
I think you kind of asked me that they left by Jews.
I say that they left by choice.
That is a gross historical.
And if there are Jews that left by choice, some did.
Also, Mizrahi, I'm sorry, guys.
Mizrahi are the Arab Jews.
My bad mislabeled it.
Mizrahi Jews.
Mizrahi Jews are the Arab Jews.
My bad.
Not Sephardic.
Mizrahi.
My bad.
Probably.
What?
Oh, my God.
You have no idea what my perspective is.
But you guys get the point.
You guys understand the point that there are Arab Jews in these countries.
Mizrahi Jews are the ones that are from these countries that I was talking about that lived in peace for thousands of years under the Ottoman Empire, etc.
Oh, you are continually, okay, not acknowledging the trauma of Middle Eastern Jews.
Characterize it like they left.
Have you ever left?
Yes, I've seen it.
Have you ever listened to anything that's not 30 seconds long?
Bro, that's so ironic that you're saying that as you misquote Avi Schlime right now and I'm claiming that here's the clip.
Here we go.
There we go.
Let's go.
But everyone's still going to think you're a fucking loser.
Here's the clip.
I'm sorry.
Just shut up and listen.
Do you want to actually ignore my perspective?
I'm shutting up and listening to you.
All right, let's listen to you.
Okay, thank you.
The Iraqi Jews.
Because when anti-Semitism increases in the West, Israel sees that as a complementary tool to nothing as fucking bringing either all Jews to Israel or at least make Jews in the Western world that are outside of Israel, Jews in the diaspora, support Israel because it gives additional credence to the argument.
It gives additional credence to the argument that no Jew is ever safe if there is no Jewish state.
That is the underpinning of the Zionist project in general.
Well, it sure seemed like they weren't safe in those other places.
I didn't mention the anti-Semitism.
Yeah, so guys, we might have to cover the other topics on Fresh Africa that I had because obviously this debate is very important.
I think this is a good discussion.
So I'm going to stick on this, guys.
Sorry because we're running out of time here.
We started everything with the, you know, we're starting to sub a thun a little bit later than expected.
But don't worry.
Well, the discussion will continue on on Fresh Affairs.
So don't worry.
I'm going to talk about a bunch of this stuff.
To the amount of times that we've talked about this.
Just to say, explain yourself.
But if you want to take them out, I'm trying.
I just watched the country.
You're being pretty dismissive about the flight.
And by the way, you've done it this whole time.
You say that Zionism was dismissive about the aspect that this is beneficial to the Zionist project across the board.
Because Israel wants all Jews to be constantly fucking terrified in any other country that's not Israel so that they can actually go and either support Israel if they're not in Israel or just move to Israel.
That is the entire point.
That is what Jabotinsky wanted.
That is what Herzl wanted.
And that is precisely what Benjamin Netanyahu wants as well.
So in terms of my explanation or what I come across as dismissive is precisely the role that Israel itself played in this war, which was miniscule, minuscule.
Anti-Semitic pogroms.
Minuscule.
What you fail to acknowledge is that the Jews were forced to become Zionists, not by choice, but by necessity, because the Arab countries turned on them after the war and forced them to go to the only country.
They were trying to arrive at the necessity for Israel.
Yes, and the Ashkenazi Zionists by bombing and attacking these Mizrahi Jews in their Arab countries also created the impetus.
All parties were guilty here.
After the war of 1948 and fucking Arab nationalism the rise of Arab nationalism.
Do you deny that?
You brought up the Arab nationalism was created thanks to Israel, you fucking idiot.
Okay?
The big leader of pan-Arabism, Abdel Nassar, the former president of Egypt, he united the Arab world because of Israel and the Suez Canal crisis.
That's what made him a leader and really kicked off this pan-Arab movement.
People like Madarfra Gaddafi, et cetera, looked up to people like Nasser.
And this all arose from Israel.
That's what Ethan is failing to realize here, that Israel created a lot of these problems that he's talking about.
Kind of racist nonsense.
That's unbelievable.
That's what I was my entire point.
I mean, it's historical.
You don't know anything of what you're talking about.
Abby Schleim, once again, because you don't want to contend.
You like to excuse him when it's convenient.
He left not by because they were Zionists.
They left because they were afraid.
Fucking Arabs.
What was Abby Schleim, by the way?
Yeah, he was an Arab Jew.
They didn't see him that way.
They kicked his ass out.
I'm not saying fucking Arabs.
There's a reason for it.
There was a rise in Arab nationalism following the 1948 war.
They blamed their own Jewish.
Yes, 1948.
That also happens to be the year that what?
Israel was created.
May 15th, 1948.
That's why pan-African Arabism became a thing, dumbass.
There was no conversation about this prior to the creation of Israel.
Ethan, you know, remember a while back I tweeted and you got really mad when I said that there's a double standard between Islamophobia.
Absolutely a double standard and you exhibit participating in it right now without even recognizing.
See, here's the problem.
They're so concerned with terms.
Hassan is too concerned with the terms or whatever.
Dude, concede the fact that there was anti-Semitism going on in these Arab countries, which led to them leaving.
But it's also important to understand that the creation of Israel in itself and the rise of Zionism is what led to the anti-Jewish sentiment in these Arab countries of the Mizrahi Jews.
So in other words, this Jewish state that was created to protect Jews actually put a lot of them in danger and forced them to become Zionists because of the creation of Israel.
That's what he's failing to fucking say here.
Again, multiple parties are culpable in this problem.
Okay?
I'm not sitting here covering for the Arab countries.
That's what Hassan is trying to do.
He's trying to cover them.
But I think he needs to understand that all parties are guilty when it comes to the rise of violence against the Mizrahi Jews that were in these Arab countries.
It was the creation of Israel that was the main precipitator into this fucking problem.
That's the issue here.
That is the issue.
Other parties were involved, but we need to understand the fuse that led the dynamite to blow up was the creation of Israel in 1948.
Once Israel was created in 1948 and the United States and other countries started to recognize it as a sovereign nation, this is what infuriated the Arab world to say, we need to unite and get these Mizrahi Jews out of here.
They want to go to Israel anyway.
They're traitors.
And it was the creation of Israel that started all of this.
We can blame the Arab government.
We can blame anti-Semitism.
We can blame all of that.
Fair.
I'm not here to dispute any of that.
I'm here to say what started it was the creation of Israel, which is the main point.
And this is what Hassan needs to fucking say, but he's not saying it, goddammit.
Right?
That proves that I'm wrong.
That the vast majority of Jews fled because of anti-Semitism in the Arab state.
Oh, really?
It's not what you're saying.
So I didn't say anything wrong.
I didn't say anything wrong.
I didn't say anything wrong, but I'm not.
It's the idea that all Arabs are fucking one-minded.
Nobody said that.
And that's something to do with Palestinians in general.
Yes, I never said that there wasn't anything.
Well, there was definitely Arab anti-Jewish sentiment that also.
Were the vast majority of Jews, did they leave because of anti-Semitism or Zionism?
The vast majority of Jews Regardless of whether or not the antique purposes is not comparable to the Nakba.
You're not answering.
Did they leave because they're not comparable to the Naqba?
That's got nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
Yep.
I'm not comparing them.
And by the way, the best part about Arabic is that there will be a 3,000-year-old argument.
No, because people like you ignore the trauma of the fact that you want to tell the people in Israel to go back to where they came from.
This is where they're from.
They were forced to go to Israel.
They could right now.
They could go tomorrow.
Really?
The Iraqi Jews can go back to their home tomorrow.
The Egyptian Jews could go back to their homes tomorrow.
Absolutely.
That is insane.
You are fucking out of your mind.
They can.
Okay, tell me how they can.
How did the Jews go back to Israel?
No, no, no, they could.
They could.
How?
How would they go back and reclaim their lost assets, their lost property?
There were literally different schemes designed.
And by the way, how did they become different points?
At different points throughout, at different points throughout this 76-year-old reparations, apartheid structure, there were numerous instances where, yes, there was a right to return offered to Jews and even restitution for the homes that they lost in the process.
So, yes, you're wrong.
You simply don't know the facts.
You are wrong.
You won't say what fact I'm getting wrong.
I just told you.
Did the vast majority of Jews immigrate to Israel following 1948 because of Zionism or because of anti-Semitism?
No, no, no, no, no, don't run away.
Answer the fucking question.
I don't discount anti-Semitism as a direct consequence of pan-Arabic nationalism that took place in numerous countries.
Answer the question.
I have a lot of issues with your comparison.
Okay.
Who's comparing?
You keep saying that.
I'm not talking about Nakba.
I'm talking about your unwillingness to recognize Jewish plague and deliberately to say more Jews were displaced than Palestinian people.
I think that's an interesting fact that you clearly don't fucking ever want to mention because it really messes up your beautiful little narrative.
Why did you bring that fact up right after you talked about the 1948 war?
Because the point is that two people were traumatized.
I think that could be a lot of people.
There was two people that were traumatized.
There were two people that were displaced unfairly.
It was the Palestinians and it was the Middle Eastern Jews.
They both have trauma.
You failed to acknowledge one group.
Dude, dude, you dude, dude, you shit on the other one.
I acknowledge that.
All lives matter.
I acknowledge both groups.
They're not mattering the Nakba.
What?
That isn't.
That's what you're doing.
And you're also attributing.
How am I doing that?
You're attributing anti-Semitic violence in random in different countries.
At the same time, following 1948, pan-Arab nationalism.
You said that yourself.
These five Arab countries were defeated in 1948 and they turned super fucking anti-Semitic as a result.
They became ultra-nationalists, Arabs.
It became popular.
As Israel declared independence, they said, fuck no, we don't want this country here.
And yeah, they all became anti-Semitic.
That's a historical fact.
Iraqi Jews have been allowed to return to Iraq, and there have been numerous instances where Jews were given an opportunity.
How many Jews live in Iraq?
What?
How many Jews?
I think zero right now, but they can't be in the middle of the day.
How many Jews live in the Middle East outside of Israel?
Why would it not?
Why would Iraqi Iraqi Jews not want to go to Iraq?
You think right now?
Zero Jews, almost virtually zero Jews.
Fuck, Hassan.
Just say what it is.
The creation of Israel created an unstable and unsafe environment for the Arab-Mizrahi Jews in these Arab countries that lived there peacefully for thousands of years without problems.
It was only the creation of Israel which led to the rise of pan-Arabism and uniting against the Zionist state that made it unsafe for those Mizrahis to continue to stay in these Arab countries.
And that is why a lot of them went over to Israel because they were forced to be Zionists thanks to Israel's behaviors.
To agitate this process, the Israeli intelligence agencies, such as Mossad, et cetera, also made things worse by agitating and doing false flags in these Arab countries to make the Mizrahi Jews feel even less safe to make them immigrate to Israel.
Why is this important?
It's important because Israel, as you guys know, has mandatory military service.
It is a small country that has a small civilization and they're surrounded by enemies.
So the more, the merrier when it comes to Israel.
So if they need to conduct false flags, okay, and creates an enormous amount of tension in these Arab countries to make Mizrahi Jews feel unsafe to immigrate to Israel, they will do it.
Now, with that said, I am not discounting the fact that Arab governments also made the Mizrahi Jews feel not feel safe in these countries and also encouraged them to leave as well.
But to not acknowledge the fact that the biggest precipitator and stimuli for the rise of anti-Semitism in Arab countries isn't Israel is disingenuous and best.
And the fact that Hassan will not make this argument right now is making me go fucking nuts.
And this is the problem when you have guys like Hassan who sit there and talk to themselves for eight hours a day and don't debate retards like Ethan Klein that don't actually understand what the fuck is going on.
Yes, Ethan is correct that there was a rise of anti-Semitism in these Arab countries.
But what he's failing to realize and this anti-Semitism was actually manufactured by Israel.
A significant amount of it was manufactured by Israel.
And then what ended up happening, Israel and the creation of the Zionist state was the beginning domino that led to the rest of everything else happening here.
So Israel's created, anti-Semitism rises, anti-Semitism rises.
Arabs in these countries don't feel safe that are Jews.
Then on top of that, Israeli intelligence makes the problem worse and agitates by doing false flags, throwing bombs to synagogues, et cetera, making them feel unsafe even more so.
Bam.
Now, not only do they not feel safe, now there's an impetus for them to leave because they might actually end up getting killed in these Arab countries and they leave.
Again, for thousands of years before 1948, they had no fucking problem.
But now, thanks to the creation of Israel, what's up happening?
They have fucking problems.
And this is what I mean when I've been saying this forever.
The creation of Israel has actually done more to impact and hurt Jews' ability to be safe than help them, especially to Jews that are not Ashkenazi from these Eastern European countries.
The Mizrahi and Arab Jews have been fine for thousands of years because the Arab nations that ruled over them were able to collect the tax and everybody was happy.
But nowadays, thanks to the creation of Israel, it's actually made the problem far worse.
And this is what Hassan is failing to acknowledge during this debate.
Let Ethan have it that there was anti-Semitism in these Arab countries, but you need to explain to him that this anti-Semitism was heavily attributed to the creation of Israel.
Confident in everything.
If you're so confident in all of this, okay, that would be great.
All right, perfect.
Okay.
So I listen.
I'll debate all these people instead of you.
I have time.
Unfortunately, like I said, it's getting late.
So I just want to make one last point before we go, which is that always remember, Hassan, that when people criticize me, I watched it on my stream by myself live.
I'm like a bitch-made coward like yourself who needs someone to hold your hand, all the excuses in the world to avoid any single criticism, any response.
You, my friend, are a coward.
And I am the fucking legend that responded to it live with zero fucking hesitation.
But you know why?
Because I'm not a liar.
I don't have to think about the shit that I say and justify it.
You lied.
That's why you can't do it because you'll get caught in those lies.
If our endeavor made you look good, then congratulations.
You don't think it was good that I re you don't think that it was a supreme confidence?
Yeah, we'll do a poll at the end, okay, guys.
It'll work.
Give it a second.
You look good, then congratulations.
You don't think it was good that I re you don't think that it was a supreme confidence that I responded to it immediately live Ethan.
You took you four months to actually entertain the notion of having a conversation.
You don't want to talk about watching YouTube videos.
I don't know why you think that I'm talking about it.
I've watched 11 hate videos on your channel.
11 hate videos.
I've watched this hero about you, Hassan.
Do you want to actually discuss who made the hate videos, dumbass?
Your fucking community is the hate community.
Why the fuck would you have to watch hate videos or whatever your son just remembered?
Man.
When criticism comes, I confront it.
Well, thank you for backtracking on the comments to the point.
You hide from it.
Actually, he doesn't.
Ethan makes his chat members only and they got to pay because he's actually afraid of criticism.
That's not true.
He's suing people that criticize him on Reddit.
That's not so.
He's definitely doesn't embrace criticism.
You were crying.
It is definitely because you're afraid.
Why is it you didn't pull it?
Why is it you love Ban Epanata, but when he makes a video criticizing you, you say, I'm not watching that?
Because I think it's you want to know why?
Because I think it's fucking unproductive to watch criticism of me, you fucking coward.
What are you doing?
You're fucking presenting yourself and developing an audience that is literally without even realizing it because they are only drama obsessed without realizing it.
They're literally positioning themselves to be pro-Israel.
They're going to be pro-Israel talking points.
Yes, that is the only reason why I started talking about you.
Because you went on a fucking deplatforming campaign.
Why did you not watch Ban Epana's video about you?
I didn't criticize you.
You did 110 Instagram stories on me, Ethan.
You're changing January 31st, 2021.
24 hours.
You didn't even recognize it.
You need to at least admit that it's reciprocal.
I am not upset.
You made 24 hours of non-stop content, bro.
Ethan.
24 hours in the last two months.
Just on your own personality.
We've talked about each other equally as much, bro.
January 31st, 2025, 110 stories.
It was so insane.
You didn't believe it.
It would have been funny if you're not going to be able to do it.
Hassan, please.
To be fair, he never saw.
You talked about me 24 minutes a day, every day, seven days a week for 60 days.
Does that sound fucking reasonable?
After you presented yourself as a fucking significant force trying to literally deplatform pro-Palestinian people.
I'm telling you they get out of Palestinian voices.
That's why.
That's not.
You literally.
Oh, my God.
No, that's actually true, Asmund Gold, but you're too dumb to realize that.
Me and Sneeko and a bunch of other pro-Palestinian guys got banned off of Twitch because of Ethan Klein making us think about it, actually, in ADL.
So he's actually correct there.
That's what happened, right?
Because your fans were fucking going, Ethan, we get it.
My fans are fine, bro.
Don't worry about my fans.
The entire time you frame this as though it's petty fucking drama.
It's not petty drama.
You are deeply anti-Semitic.
Of course.
And it only took you now to fucking openly say 10 toes down that it is a genocide, but also I've said that consistently for years, liar.
Ethan, you don't want anyone to resist against genocide.
It is a fucking untenable resistance against genocide.
This is so pathetic, bro.
They now constantly keep smearing me as a fucking pen.
It's been a Trump administration at a time when the Trump administration is blackbagging people.
Yeah, that's bad happening.
Don't call me out.
I hope that's not a problem.
Don't call me out.
That's what you're doing.
Dude, how do you know that you are playing a formative role when you don't talk about Mahmoud Khalil?
Just remember, everybody watching.
When you don't talk about the mass starvation of God.
By the way, when I advocated for Kamala to get elected, what'd you do?
Uh-oh.
I told people to vote for Kamala.
What'd you do?
Kamala sucks.
No, seriously.
That's not a flex.
What'd you do?
Ethan, that's not a flex you retard.
See how progressives debate.
They're such retards, dude.
I won't change anything from Joe Biden's policies, Harris.
It's not Joe Biden, it's Kamala Harris.
Not only did I go to the DNC, but I actually offered some pretty fucking valuable criticism.
Didn't they kick you out of the DNC?
They didn't listen to that valuable criticism.
Why have you lied about me voting for Jill Stein, by the way?
Can we talk about it?
I don't know.
Why do you keep saying I voted for Jill Stein?
Who did you vote for?
Countless hours shit on Joe Trump.
I said, I think you did.
I said that Donald Trump is significantly worse than Kamala Harris.
And I've also, on top of that, you're going to get a little bit over and over and over again.
But for some weird reason, despite the fact that I voted on Tamala, mind you, and you kept lying to your audience.
I said, I think.
You kept making it seem as though I didn't even fucking vote.
Or I urged people not to vote.
There's never been a moment of us that do that.
Who did you vote for?
I voted for Kamala Harris.
You got a problem?
No, I got no problem, but I think there's people in your audience that would.
You don't have a problem.
Why did you endorse her then?
What the fuck do you keep saying I voted for Jill Stein?
Oh, here we go.
Now they're going to endorse why they voted for Kamala.
Let's go.
This is going to be hilarious.
What do you think?
Bros voted for women.
Let's go.
Voting for women.
Yeah.
Fuck out of here, bro.
You're out of your fucking mind.
I've literally, I did not endorse Kamala Harris, and I will never endorse Kamala Harris.
I've voted for her.
And I did not endorse Joe Biden.
Now Trump's president.
Do you want to know why?
Because you want to know what's going on.
Trump's building the Riviera in Gaza Strip.
And guess what?
You fucking love that shit because you get to keep making content about it and you get to keep making videos and you get, you guarantee a lot of peace there because you won't acknowledge the trauma of both sides.
Two things must always be true.
How much content have you made about Donald Trump?
How much content have you made about fucking Donald Trump?
You literally defended his tariff regime.
What the fuck are you talking about?
And then you have to apologize because you're an embarrassing figure.
You can't fathom.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
You can't fathom that somebody says something wrong and come back to Brexit.
And all of the producers or all the people that are giving you fucking talking points is not going to defend the target.
You're going to come across as smart in this process.
Please for your own influence.
You are basically brainbreaking a shit ton of people into idiotic positions.
You clearly don't care about voting for Donald Trump.
Somebody hear allegiance with people who have literally directly voted for Donald Trump.
That's my allegiance.
Who's my allegiance to?
What do you mean?
You have fucking Trump supporters that you're friends with.
Like Steiny in general.
When I have a conversation with him, I'm actually directly fucking addressing some of the people.
Did you watch my interview with him?
You fucking dip shit?
Our entire conversation was me arguing with him and telling him why Trump's bad and why transphobia is bad.
You are insanely incorrect.
You're playing poker with people who fucking voted for Donald Trump.
Asman Gold is not actually Trump coded.
I spent hours shitting on Stiney.
You're doing only on 30 things.
Don't be just a lot of fun.
Ashton Gold has been a valuable figure shitting on me this entire time.
And that's the only reason why you act like he's not that significant of a force.
That's it.
When did I say that?
You will take help from anyone and everyone.
And this man has already been able to do that.
He's talking to care.
You claim to care about rape, and you're hyping up a dude who has a segment on a show called Ultimate Rape Review.
The reason why you're hyping up that dude because you don't give a fuck.
All you care about is petty drama.
This is your only content.
Stop doing petty drama content.
Shut the fuck up about politics and get back to goofs and gaps.
And it will be fine.
People will forget that you have behaved in this way.
Oh, shit.
Nice anime hurts where H3 has fallen off.
That people don't like you.
It must be anti-Semitism.
No, they don't like you.
So you know what the fuck you're talking about.
And you have to be babied by goddamn producers as a 40-year-old adult.
That's the reason why people don't like it.
Oh, that's true.
Very good.
Very good.
Now, why don't you watch Ben and Panona's videos about you?
I heard that.
Because he's pro-Palestine.
And I don't give a fuck about he was criticizing Palestine.
Oh, you're such a kid.
I don't care about the difference in methods that we have.
All right, very good.
I'm out of my depth.
I shouldn't talk about it.
I'm not going to find the movement.
And if you were pro-Palestine, I would never talk about you either.
That's the real reason.
Oh.
Can you please contend with the Avi Schlime quote that they left not because of Zionism, but because they were afraid?
Dude, come on, come on, come on.
Enough, enough.
You have Avi Schleim on the show.
Talk to him about it, okay?
Maybe it'll go down exactly like you thought with Sam Cedar.
Man, how did it go with Sam Cedar?
I think I think, if anything, Sam kind of embarrassed himself.
No, you embarrassed him.
I genuinely do.
I hate it.
We watched that debate.
You actually embarrassed yourself, Ethan.
Fucking button when he has like a little.
He's actually the one who's talking about Sam Cedar embarrassing and lowered himself to talk to you man to man and try to get it.
That's what you're doing out of his life.
That's what he asked for.
Why would you want to lower his status?
Why would you lower his private status?
I thought you could be convinced.
I didn't realize you were this fucking drama-obsessed.
Drama-obsessed?
We had an argument about fucking South Africa apartheid.
What's drama about that?
What?
You're a fucking dude.
Listen, I can't enjoy what you said.
What did you say?
It doesn't matter.
Just remember, when it comes to criticism, I watch it.
Yes, you acknowledge Mandela.
Norris Mandela was actually peaceful because you're going to clip chimp the fucking shit that Loanerbox told you.
Why wasn't there going to say the violent things that Hassan did?
The violent things that the ANC did were in the Truth and Reconciliation Committee attributed to Hassan.
How many civilians died in 20 years in the ANC during the ANC's?
What was like 200, I think?
Less than 100.
How many people did Hamas kill on one day?
Nelson Mandela, which I'll read you.
Read you according from his trial.
I'll read you.
So I don't know if you guys.
So I've been watching this for, as you guys know, for a little bit now.
And what I've noticed, so this is like Ethan Klein's like debate style.
What Ethan Klein does is Ethan isn't necessarily as educated on a lot of the topics.
And if you guys notice, he's researching a lot of the stuff right then and there on his computer as he's talking about them because he doesn't actually know.
And he does this all the time, by the way.
He's not actually like an intelligent guy.
He researched a lot of this shit as he's live and he has his team researching shit behind the scenes.
So this is what Ethan does.
Ethan knows enough to discuss the topic, but he doesn't really know enough to go into detail and be able to talk about the complex nuances about certain situations.
So for example, he'll go there and say there was rising anti-Semitism in Arab countries and they left because of this rising anti-Semitism.
But he doesn't take it to his fore to the conclusion, which is why did the anti-Semitism rise?
It rose because of the creation of Israel in 1948.
He kind of flirted with it by saying, well, why was there this anti-Semitism in 1948?
Well, the reason why is what I explained, the creation of Israel on May 15th of 1948 galvanized and united the Arab world to say, fuck this.
We are going to get these invaders out of here because these guys are Eastern Europeans creating a colony in an Arab fucking area.
This is unacceptable.
So what ended up happening was they united.
As a byproduct of them uniting, there was anti-Semitic resentment towards a lot of them Israeli Jews that I discussed before.
So again, the problem here is that Ethan knows enough to have a conversation, but not go deeper into it.
And then when you do want to go deeper into it, he says, this is boring.
Like, let's go to something else.
Like, you know, people are going to tune out, blah, blah, blah, because he knows that he can't go into these complexities.
And his audience is too retarded to understand the fact that people want to know these details, or maybe his audience doesn't.
But guess what?
A bunch of people are reacting to this right now, and they want to know the truth.
Like I'm explaining to you guys right now at this moment.
Now, the problem with Hassan is that he got filler-busted on so many different fucking examples because, as a progressive and as a liberal, he has to be sensitive to tone.
He has to be sensitive to terminology.
He has to be sensitive to not be to be politically correct, et cetera.
And this is a problem with liberals when they debate each other.
And I think you guys, I really hope you guys are kind of taking away some of these things that are going on in the side.
Basically, what Hassan is doing here, though he is intellectually superior to Ethan on this very topic, because he actually is a political commentator and not a slop commentary guy like Ethan.
I put Ethan Klein in the same box as like Abba and preaching shit.
They literally just react to shit and give disingenuous takes on stuff off of clipped up content.
That's what they do.
So Ethan is a slop content creator.
Someone like Hassan is a political commentator.
Though I disagree with a lot of the things that he says, he's actually far more researched and intelligent on this very topic when it comes to Israel-Palestine.
But here's a problem.
Since he is a liberal and a progressive, he has to be sensitive about the way he conveys information.
So effectively, what he's been doing is he's been fighting Ethan with one hand behind his back like this.
Now, no matter how trained you are, no matter how much of a good boxer you are, if you are fighting someone with one hand tied behind your back, meanwhile, they have both hands, which is what Ethan is doing.
He has one hand of disinformation and one hand of stupidity where he can obfuscate.
He is pummeling Hassan in this situation because Hassan, though he is intellectually superior on this topic, he is too scared of being able to make concessions on certain topics, like for example, the terrorism one.
And he ends up going down a fucking rabbit hole with Ethan on a topic that never should have gone down the rabbit hole in the first place.
And it kept him away from being able to go on the historical stuff, which actually lines up and is in Hassan's favor.
But since he's been so goddamn worried about Tone Police being PC, et cetera, it has inhibited his ability to effectively debate Ethan.
And he's fighting Ethan at a position that he shouldn't be fighting him at at all.
But again, this is because when you're a liberal, you have to be cognizant of certain terms.
Racism, bigotry, inbred, terrorism.
Fuck that shit, right?
You just got to be able to debate things as they are.
Okay.
And the other thing too, as well here, that's another problem, is that Ethan isn't a good faith debater.
He's not actually here to debate facts.
He's here to get clips.
Clip farm makes it look stupid, blah, blah, blah.
In this situation, he hasn't been able to clip farm as much because Hassan knows his tactics.
But what he's been able to do is misdirect the conversation into usage of terms, political correctness, etc.
And this is where Hassan has kind of hurt himself because in order for him to dance with Ethan in this politically correct world, he has to put a hand behind his back and worry more about terms.
And that's what's fucked him up.
That's what's fucked him up.
This is why conservatives, a lot of the times destroy liberals, because we are not worried about terminology.
We are not worried about being called a bigot.
We are not worried about being labeled a racist or whatever.
Matter of fact, the more you call us racist, the funnier it is.
So for us, we don't have these barriers in our way to convey information like liberals do.
What you guys are witnessing actually right now is a fantastic example of how liberals constantly actually hurt themselves when it comes to debating because they're worried about certain phrases and terms being interpreted in a certain way that might make them look unfavorable.
Israel has a right to exist?
Not in the way that it currently does.
Within secure borders.
Hold on, hold on.
Howard.
Do you know what he says after that clip?
Yeah, that he also thinks that Palestinians also need to be acknowledged, which, by the way, is my fucking point.
No, no, no, not that.
Palestinian liberation and Israeli borders are two sides of the same Ethan.
No.
He says that if peaceful means of coexistence is impossible, then violence is inevitable, Ethan.
Why did you clip this out of the fucking clip chimpanzee irrelevant?
You're saying I clip chimp Nelson Mandela?
See what he did there?
And this is where Hassan shows the intellectual superiority.
He knew what was said there, but Ethan did his disingenuous tactics and clipped that out, but he knew that that was actually there.
And again, if Hassan wasn't such a pussy and worried about words, he would have been able to mount the floor with this fucking guy.
But he fucking was fighting with one hand behind his back because he's worried because his audience is filled with a bunch of sensitive liberal retards that get offended off of terms like inbred, racism, bigot, whatever.
And now he has to sit here and explain his position and not come off as a bigot, which actually takes away from his ability to debate on the actual intellectual stuff.
Brother, that is insane.
What?
Everything Angela was literally on a terror watch in 2008.
Who gives a fuck?
What do you mean who gives a fuck?
You like to use the terrorism watches when you're talking about the Houthis or you like to use the terrorist watches when you're talking about Hezbollah.
I'm not giving you specific examples of why those organizations are bad.
Who do you think that was a who do you think that was a who do you think the philosophical point that he was making the guy who was in prison for violent resistance by the way who tried to violent resistance you mean sabotage Sabotage you give you.
Do you think that was a warning to Palestinians?
Or do you think that was a warning to Israel are so willing?
The same Nelson Mandela has time and time again also repeated that no one is free until Palestine is free.
That same Nelson Mandela that you're trying to fucking use in this situation has said that this is a united struggle, that Israel's actions against the Palestinians are abhorrent, that it is akin to what they have experienced in apartheid, South Africa, if not worse.
So the idea that you can make this comparison to be free.
This fucking argument is so stupid.
The only way you can do that is by cutting it out of context.
No, I just explained why.
I want Palestine to be free, but you know what?
I don't think Hamas is furthering that goal.
I think Hamas is counterproductive.
They're making it worse.
They're causing it to be inevitable.
You refuse to make it worse.
You refuse to criticize them, which is pathetic.
Unlike me, I'm willing to criticize the Israeli government.
I'm willing to come to terms with the cruel reality.
Hassan walked through it.
Why are they making it worse?
Because they're killing them.
What was the fucking objective there on October 7th, genius?
Kidnapping, which, by the way, I don't even agree with, which is an international human rights violation.
But kidnapping soldiers, Israeli civilians, to make sure that they're not going to be able to do what part about that was slaughtering fucking families in their homes.
It sounds like a critical tactics.
You know this already.
Terrorists.
We're about relitigating this over and over again.
And here we go.
Now he's going to go down the October 7th path.
And I already know where it is.
And this is the problem with idiots like Osman Gold and Ethan Klein.
All the pro- This is the argue.
This is the this is where the pro-Israel people start.
The pro-Israel people always start at October 7th and they make it seem as if nothing happened prior to October 7th.
The pro-Israeli stance is always simply this.
We were attacked on October 7th by ruthless terrorists that came in and killed 1,200 innocent Israelis.
They kidnapped 200.
It was an evil event, etc.
Now let's go ahead and talk about what really happened.
Militant fighters came into Israel, kidnapped 200 people as a bargaining chip like they always do to go ahead and try to get Palestinians that have been arrested for many decades thanks to the IDF kidnapped without due process.
Now, with that said, during the course of this military operation, several people, sorry, 1,200 people were killed.
But let's go into detail about how those people were killed.
Roughly 1,200 people were killed.
400 of those people were IDF, which are considered enemy combatants.
Fair game, unfortunately.
It's one of the realities of war.
Next, 200 of them were kidnapped.
So we went from 1,200 down to 800.
Then 200 of them were kidnapped on top of that.
Then we'll go ahead and go into the fact that the Hannibal directive was actually activated on that day.
And many of the people that were at the festival ended up getting killed.
How?
By hellfire missiles from Apache helicopters.
Last time I checked, Hamas doesn't have that fucking capability.
So Yoav Galat himself, the Minister of Defense, who was running the military operation on that day, admitted that the Hannibal Directive was there.
What is the Hannibal Directive?
The Hannibal Directive is a military initiative by the Israeli government where they will go ahead and kill Israelis during a military event like this to avoid the capture of hostages.
Why?
Because the capture of hostages always puts Israel on their back foot when it comes to negotiations.
Because what ends up happening, Israel has to always give one to 10 ratio, roughly, of their prisoners for the Israelis.
So it puts them in a very bad diplomatic nightmare.
So instead of having to deal with this and negotiate in a hostage exchange, they would rather just kill those Israelis so that the militants don't have this leverage.
Okay?
That's another thing.
Now, the mass grapes that they complain about, not true.
The UN tried to do an independent investigation, and what they found was the bodies were left in a certain way by the aid people from Israel to make it look as if though they had been graped.
But there is no tangible physical evidence to actually show that mass grapes actually occurred on October 7th.
Another thing that was debunked, the 40 beheaded babies and the babies in ovens.
This is not true.
Only one baby was killed on October 7th, and they were shot by a random bullet that came in.
Also, it's also important to note that a lot of the kibbutzes where people were killed and Hamas fighters were also killed was done via tanks.
Who had tanks on October 7th?
The IDF did.
The IDF indiscriminately shot into kibbutz to avoid the capture of the Israeli citizens.
So again, we don't actually know how many people Hamas killed.
Now, am I sitting here justifying their actions or whatever?
No, but I am telling you that this is war and this is what often happens over there in the Middle East.
Now, this didn't just happen out of nowhere.
Israel has been violently occupying that territory since the 1930s, okay?
The state of Israel was created in 1948, but the skirmishes and the fighting has been going on for damn near 80 plus years, okay?
So what occurred on October 7th was response to multiple things.
The violent occupation, the imminent recognition of Israel as a state by the Arab countries without answering the Palestine question, the building of the temple and the red heifers that Israel has secured over, which is going to signify the destruction of the mosque, which is the third holiest site in the Islamic religion.
There's a multitude of different reasons why they invaded on October 7th.
Again, I'm not here to justify anything, but this is what war is.
This is what conflict is.
They are going to have their reasons.
I think it's very important for people to understand, number one, why they invaded, number two, what they did on that day.
And then number three, the actual casualties and what really happened.
Because what happened was the narrative was ridiculous from the beginning.
2,000 killed.
Hamas killed 40 beheaded babies.
Babies in ovens.
Mass grapes, et cetera.
A lot of this stuff was not true.
Now, the Israeli government put out a 40-plus-minute video that showed a lot of the murders, which obviously horrible.
Not good.
Okay.
Horrible.
But this is war and this is what happens after violent occupation.
Violent occupation will lead to violent resistance.
It's just an unfortunate reality.
And it's crazy to me how the Israelis refuse to accept the fact that if you violently occupy these people and you've taken their land and you've occupied them for 80 plus years, they're going to respond unfavorably a lot of the times.
This is what it is.
And on top of that, as I've discussed with you guys before, there have been movements to go ahead and get a Tuesday solution.
Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Erafed had a legendary fucking agreement called the Oslo Accords back in the 1990s that Bill Clinton actually brokered.
Guess what happened to Yitzhak Rabin?
He was assassinated by a party member of the Likud party.
Guess who was the Likud party?
Benjamin Netanyahu.
Many to this day believe that Benjamin Netanyahu instructed him to go kill Yitzhak Rabin because after Yitzhak Rabin was killed, guess who came to power?
Benjamin Netanyahu.
Guess who's been doing everything in their power to sabotage the Oslo Accords?
Benjamin Netanyahu.
Guess who doesn't want a Tuesday solution?
Benjamin Netanyahu.
So since that's been going on, and Benjamin Netanyahu's been in power since goddamn the 90s, okay?
And the Palestine question hasn't been resolved.
And basically, they've been having these meetings that Saudi Arabia was actually going to have a meeting with, and some of the other Gulf states were going to have a meeting with Israel to recognize them.
They said, yo, if this Palestine question doesn't get answered, we are going to invade and create a rift in the situation.
That's what ended up happening.
And the talks have been delayed.
Obviously, there's been a war since.
Israel's been using it to its favor.
But again, October 7th didn't happen in a vacuum.
And a lot of the events that happened on October 7th were sensationalized to create shock and create this era of revenge where Israel has been able to do this indiscriminate bombing and wage the asymmetric warfare that they've been able to do now for the better part of almost two years without real consequence.
But the reason why the world is now shocked and disapproves of what Israel is doing is because a lot of these lies that Israel put out, the propaganda, have been exposed as myths used to sensationalize and justify their asymmetrical warfare and literally indiscriminate killing of innocent people.
That is the problem here when it comes to the pro-Israeli angle where they refuse to acknowledge what transpired prior to October 7th.
They always started October 7th as if it was unprovoked.
Anyway, we'll keep going on.
Own me by donating to charity.
I think that you're gloating that a fucking charity event is actually like you're trying to undermine a charity.
Also, there's a documentary made by Max Blumenthal, which covers all of this in great detail.
Okay.
It's called Atrocity Inc.
Go check it out, guys.
Great documentary.
I've done a podcast debunking a lot of this stuff.
Oh, another fun fact.
Israel, if they really cared about the hostages, could have got their hostages back on October 10th.
Okay?
This was reported by Horetz, which is an Israeli media source.
The spokesperson for the families met with the Israeli government and found out that Hamas offered to return all the hostages on or about October 10th in return, in exchange for not invading Gaza.
Guess what Benjamin Netanyahu said?
Nope.
And invaded anyway, because to him, killing a bunch of people and destroying Hamas is more important than getting back the hostages.
And this is why he's had many opportunities to get all the hostages back, and he hasn't done it.
Now, a lot of you are probably going to say, well, Myron, how should Israel respond to Hamas coming in and kidnapping 200 people, killing innocent civilians, etc.?
Well, I will tell you how they should have responded.
It's very simple.
You do the hostage negotiation, you get your hostages back.
Now that they're secured, now you can go ahead and utilize your military and your intelligence services who are superior to go ahead and attack and kill the top leaders of Hamas.
They've already been able to do this, chat.
They assassinated Ismail Haniah in Iran.
They killed an op in the top op territory and assassinated him surreptitiously with pinpoint accuracy.
They killed him with a bomb that they put in his bunker house and killed him and his bodyguard.
They launched a pager and cell phone attack where they blew up bombs that were hidden in a bunch of devices that they had there for 10 plus years.
They have special ops and informants all over Gaza.
They have an enormous amount of resources to conduct special operations where they can systematically go in and kill the targets that they need to kill.
And they would have been able to preserve their national standing where we don't have to keep running cover for these idiots in the UN.
So by Benjamin Nanyahu saying, you know what?
Fuck it.
I don't want the Hostas back.
I want to go ahead and just bomb these guys and get rid of Hamas once and for all, fine.
But you are going to have to deal with the consequence of that, which is the reality.
Now the world stage hates Israel, dislikes Israel.
And the only reason that Benjamin Nanyahu isn't in jail right now, thanks to the ICC, is because we keep running cover for Israel, which in turn makes us look very bad because we are running cover for a current ethnic cleansing/slash genocide, as many would say.
So that is the problem here, Chad.
That is what's going on here.
And they could have got the Hostas back on October 10th.
Now, obviously, no one reports on that because it's not widely known.
But a spokesperson for the families literally brought this out.
And now we know the truth.
Hope that he would have been more open to listening.
Wow.
I guess that's what it was meant to be.
Wow.
Guys, this was amazing.
How long was that going on for?
Five hours.
What's going on?
Five hours here.
Was I owned?
I need to process everything that just happened.
My head's not.
I got to talk about this.
Beanie guys are retard.
It reminds me of Elden Ring.
When the game was going to come out, and I was so excited.
I knew it was going to be really good, but it came out.
No, Poland does not cover for Nanyahu.
Nanyahu couldn't go to the anniversary of the Holocaust in Poland because they literally would have arrested him, bro.
He couldn't go.
Poland would have arrested him off the ICC warrant.
And that's his country, by the way, of his native country.
And there's the Farah Missoula.
And I was like, wait, there's more.
It's not like it's just going to be like Dark Souls 3 and it's like five zones and it's over.
No, there's just more and more and more.
It never stops.
It never stopped.
So, okay, we will do an official poll chat.
Mods, can we make a poll?
Two, two winners, just two people.
Who won the debate?
Ethan or Hassan?
Just two.
Just two.
Not me or, you know, fucking, you know, Nelson Mandela or whoever.
Can we have somebody put up a poll?
Not me.
Yeah, yeah, Ethan is on.
So we'll see what the chat says.
This was insane.
I really, honestly, I was really surprised.
I didn't expect Ethan to go as hard as he did.
I didn't at all.
We'll see what the chat says here.
And 87% of them think Ethan won.
You know, people have pretty much one opinion on this.
Okay.
Well, there it is.
So it's looking like pretty much everybody, it's a blowout.
It is.
It's a complete fucking blowout.
Ethan cooked him.
Yeah, I honestly, I think that Ethan, I think this is also like another really good example of like Ethan in a lot of times, like I think Ethan used a lot of debate techniques that made Hassan look bad in a way that is partially artificial.
And I think it kind of goes to show when I think that a lot of debates like this are kind of problematic is that whenever you do, because I can notice this, right?
Whenever it's happening.
And this is something, I mean, Hassan does this too, right?
It's not like just Ethan did this, but Ethan, I think, had better command of it over in this debate.
I think he definitely had a much stronger command over it in this debate.
And because of that, I think it made him look a lot better.
And I think that Ethan controlling the narrative and also controlling the audio and the video that was being played put him in like kind of more of a dominant position in the video.
And he does that a lot.
That's why he doesn't like to do in-person debates with adversarial people, guys.
Big tip for you guys.
Ethan purposely does that.
I do think so.
Because team fucks with the audio in the background.
I know this from being on his shit too.
At least a little bit.
So, yeah.
Ethan used those techniques consistently.
You're 100% right.
Yeah, yeah, it is.
And he was very good at that.
And I can respect that, right?
I mean, at the end of the day, it worked.
And Zerk, I mean, I looked at Twitter, like, let's see what people are saying on Twitter.
What are the opinions of the people on Twitter?
Let's go back.
I can find it here.
And the anti-Semitic Arabs forced the Jews to be Zionists.
Well, yeah, whenever they got kicked out and forced out, I think that was kind of the idea, right?
I mean, I think that was the argument, wasn't it?
Is that, you know, basically the Jewish people got forced out of their other countries that were around Israel after 1948, and then they went to Israel.
Like, I think that's basically what he's saying, right?
I mean, am I crazy?
I think that's what we...
I mean, I'm not really a big historical guy, but it sure seems like that's what it was.
So, yeah, I mean, I...
Okay, let's see what people are saying.
Ethan Cooks Hassan.
Ethan Klein completely changed into a subject once Hassan catches him in a lie.
Hassan Piker avoids debates because he's fucking terrible at them.
TLDR of Ethan versus Hassan, if y'all missed it.
Hassan continues denying that Ethan was a reference, is a fan of him.
I can see why Hassan Piker doesn't like debating.
Ethan confronts Hassan over the Fortnite L-Dance content cop.
Ethan Klein every time Hassan tries to ask him an actual question.
Check in the Ethan versus Hassan debate.
Hassan's screaming about how missling random commercial vessels is based, actually.
Hassan versus Ethan debate.
Not trying to kill yourself challenge.
Yeah, Hassan tries to get Ethan to draw a swastika on the 9-year-old with PewDiePie video.
Oh, my God.
Hassan x Ethan to debate.
Wow.
And, yeah, there we go.
It's trending on Axe.
Well, yeah, I mean, this is, as I said, guys, this was a, this was a big season finale for the Terminally Online.
It is.
Like, this is a very, very big deal.
And so, yeah, I don't know why.
What's going on here, right?
Like I told you guys before, Hassan was fighting with one hand behind his back because he wanted to be politically correct.
And this is the fucking problem.
You can't, you know, for fear of being canceled or for fear of, you know, coming off a certain way, Hassan had to hold back or focus on stupid topics that don't matter.
Like inbred.
They spend an enormous amount of time talking about inbredness.
Who cares?
Yeah, they're retards.
This is why people like Ethan Klein tick all the time.
You're an inbred, Ethan Klein.
Came out much ahead.
That's what I would have said.
Came out way farther ahead.
I think Hassan, like especially in terms of, like I think in terms of rhetoric, I think Hassan was much more transparently disingenuous than Ethan was.
And I think that especially in the beginning, for anybody who has any familiarity, one thing that I think that Hassan does, and I think that also people that are adjacent to him do, like people like, for example, Frogan or, you know, like Denims or somebody like that, people that are adjacent to him do is that they do something that is disgusting.
They do something that's wrong or they say something bad to someone.
And then when basically Ethan is saying, stop harassing me, stop, you know, like leading this hate campaign against my wife, you know, like they're like, well, why are you trying to silence me?
I'm trying to help Palestine.
So like they effectively use the Palestinian struggle as both a sword and a shield for their own bad behavior.
And so they use it as a way to personally attack Ethan.
They use it to personally attack me.
They use it to personally attack everyone.
And I think that the ultimate result is that like, I mean, for me, like, I'm not like a huge advocate.
Like, I'm not a big, like, I don't want anybody to get the wrong idea.
Right.
I'm a layman in this conflict, but I would.
Yeah.
You don't know shit in this conflict.
And it's very obvious.
Eyes a lot more with the Palestinians that I do with Israel in like a general sense.
And these are like average Palestinians, not Hamas.
I'm not talking about Hamas.
I'm just talking about like the conflict in itself, right?
But like, and that's, that's just generally like, and I'm not really, look, I'm not going to stand up and be like, oh my God, this is so true or anything like that.
But like, that's just, if I had to fall off on one side of the fence, that's kind of the way that I would feel.
And so that's it.
But anyway, my point is that I think that the big problem that I think Hassan has is that in a number of times in this interview, Ethan was more than willing to say, yeah, I could have said that better, or yeah, I probably exaggerated this or not.
And Hassan, even whenever he's confronted with something that is like objectively wrong, right?
For example, like, I mean, I can't think of a single example of like, for example, like reframing Ethan's criticism of Frogan or Denims or anybody that's like in that vicinity as being a pro-Palestinian voice as a way to minimize the harassment that Ethan has dealt with and then to effectively criticize Ethan.
Shouldn't even have wasted the time talking about that shit.
Is a deliberate, intentional, conscious misrepresentation.
And I think that Hassan knows that.
I think Hassan knows that using this, you know, but there's a genocide going on.
This is something, whatever.
Hassan refuses to criticize anything within his group.
Yeah.
And I think that that's, I think it becomes very evident to.
He should have stayed away from that shit.
And Osman really doesn't know anything about this topic.
Niggas just yapping.
Let's see what Hassan has to say.
He shouldn't have left that discussion.
Let's see here.
He wanted to fucking focus on like drama.
I'm so hot.
Bruh.
I'm fucking pissed off.
Like, I could have done a way better job on this, man, because I don't have to worry about terms like inbred or whatever.
I literally would have just said, yeah, Ethan, you're inbred.
You tick all the fucking time.
Thank you for proving my point.
Anyway, carrying on.
Yeah, I use the term inbred and let's talk about the facts.
Like, I would have had these fucking roadblocks in front of me of like being politically correct and shit.
That's the problem here.
Is like Hassan handicapped himself by trying to be politically correct.
Okay, so why was your wife in Ramullah?
Maybe.
Yeah, this was good.
His wife is a fucking terrorist.
It's true.
She sat in the car.
She's complicated, Ethan.
She sat in the car and didn't even leave it and never did it.
And he should have, according to internet, he should have struck more at those fucking point pain points of the truth, using the truth to his to his advantage.
But the problem is that he was too fucking busy trying to virtue signal on stupid phrases like inbred and racism.
Right?
They spent this and terrorism.
Oh, your friend that you brought up was a terrorist.
Who gives a fuck?
Okay, let's say he is a terrorist.
It doesn't matter because by definition, the Houthis and the IDF are terrorists.
Now let's talk about who's more justified in their terrorism.
They're both terrorists.
Okay.
Now let's go ahead and go ahead and talk about who's more justified.
Bam.
Now we can go ahead and have the discussion on who the fuck is more justified in their actions.
Okay.
And then also what Ethan, what Hassan could have said was, look, he could have had this conversation.
The reason why a lot of these Arab rebel groups are designated as terrorists is because guess who runs the Department of State that designates groups and these militias as terrorists?
Zionists.
Okay?
So look.
Hold on, we'll keep playing this one.
Shutting on Jewish people.
Make shitting on Zionists, right?
They need a lot of time to think about it.
And I think, yeah, look, when the ADL got involved, that's only when they finally suspended Frogan and all the other people up on the stage.
when a sitting congressman started writing letters.
Hmm.
I don't, I, for the record, yeah, never mentioned the ADL, by the way.
Dude, why does he lie so much?
And it's so funny because he keeps lying.
And then also, he's lying about me and saying I'm lying.
What the fuck?
Posting on Twitter.
Then they, then they said, okay, we should probably do something.
You made Hutch's mod.
You people are on a different fucking planet.
If you think Ethan is winning anything here, it's fucking disgraceful.
Hutch, I hope you detach from the teeth of Mr. Bonicelli and find peace.
Love you.
Love you well past your machinima days.
NOOOOO!
Oh no!
*sad sigh*
Okay, guys.
Oh, no.
See, this is why you gotta, sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire here and not be afraid of being politically incorrect.
So, as you guys can see here, Hamas was designated as a terrorist organization when?
October 8th, 1997, right?
October 8th, 1997.
Hamas was designated as a terrorist, it was a foreign terrorist organization by the Department of State.
Now, let's do a little bit of research.
Who ran the Department of State back then?
I'll tell you who.
This woman right here.
Okay?
Madeleine Albright.
And whenever you go to that early life, every single time Joseph and Hannah converted to Judaism from Catholicism in 1941, blah, blah, blah.
Her family, 1997, Albright said her parents never told her or her two siblings about their Jewish ancestry and heritage.
So, this is just one example, guys.
But when I tell you guys that we are an occupied nation, which Hassan is too much of a pussy to acknowledge, right?
These are the cold hard facts of why we have a very aggressive posture towards certain countries and certain militant groups, okay?
Because the reality is, and I've been saying this for a minute, the United States is an occupied fucking nation, okay?
We have American politicians that have dual allegiance to a foreign land in the Middle East called Israel.
And no one wants to grapple with this very typical fucking topic, okay?
Literally, here's your proof.
Hamas designated serious organization, 1997.
Who ran the Department of State at that time?
Bam, a Jewish person.
It's like, dude, like, come on, man.
You always, when you, when you go ahead and you look at the history, it always makes sense.
Okay?
You cannot become a politician of serious regard unless you're a Zionist.
Who is the Department of State Secretary right now?
A guy named Marco Rubio.
Marco Rubio is funded by and supported by the Zionist lobby extremely.
The Adelsons control Marco Rubio, chat.
And this is where people like Hassan are too scared to go.
I guess why have they not led to any real prosecutions?
They're dead.
No.
They're fucking dead, you moron.
What do you mean?
First-hand testimony in this regard.
You killed all the fucking Hamas operatives in Israel.
I killed them?
What?
What are you?
Are you killed them?
I said they.
Why the fuck would I say you killed them?
My audio is so.
And then the IDF went ahead and, you know, then the IDF, we didn't designate them as a terrorist organization because they were smart enough to rebrand.
They went from Ergonaugh or Ergun Haganah and Stern Gang, which were a lot of them were terrorist organizations.
They just rebranded to the IDF.
Cool.
Terrorist organization designation gone.
See, they were smart enough to rebrand.
Hamas is dumb.
They should have rebranded into something else.
I'll have held on for as long as I can.
I'm done.
Officially a fallen fan.
Yeah, they're going to pack this up to the best of their ability to like they're going to pack this up to the best of their ability.
And then, oh, I'm still quiet, too.
I got to fix this.
Hold on.
Your audio was straight ass?
Yeah, because we did.
By the way, guys, we're going to start Fresh and Fit at about 9 o'clock and continue on with the subathon in Miami.
So he deadass thinks you're Hamas.
Yeah, the Arabs moment was pretty solid, I think.
Also, guys, run to the sub-authon.
We're live on all the platforms.
Fresh of Fit, Myron Gaines X, et cetera.
Sub on Fresh and Fit on Rumble.
That is the way to do it.
I'm just keeping the show running here.
We should have started Fresh of Fit a bit ago, but we're going to go until 9 o'clock and then we're really going to start going hard in the paint here.
Other countries, some of which were directly under the fucking ownership of colonial occupation, like all of that, all of these different countries.
All right, let's go back to the actual debate and look at it from the beginning and go through this shit.
Since these guys Twitch stream and you can't rewind Twitch because it's fucking retarded, let's go ahead and go to H3 here.
All right.
It was unnatural, the dyslexes on the video.
I don't really, I don't really care about this.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't recall saying this, but I don't know why you didn't say anything.
All right, so you have that question.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Let's get back to some other definitions.
Hold on.
Let me finish, and then you can do your definition.
Do you think it was not my definition?
I want to hear your definition.
That's fine.
I'll answer how you like.
I hope you know that.
Like, you know, I don't know if you know this, but I didn't publish the content comp iDubbs did.
Yes, I know that.
And I've addressed him earlier.
Do you know that?
Do you believe you should have included the context of the CPS call?
What?
What?
You don't know what I'm talking about?
Wait, wait, wait.
I'm a little confused.
You are asking me.
Yes.
Okay.
What my stupid drama about his kids.
Let's move forward here.
I'm like, I believe it was Alexa.
That grabbed it and I said, oh, you immediately go to the swastika one.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you think?
My point is, Hassan, if I can continue my point, is that you knew it was a swastika sword.
So why?
What is this?
So, I mean, why did you guys choose?
Here we go.
Like, wasting time on shit like this, bro, it's a swastika sword.
Like, you're so offensive.
This is so fucked up and problematic.
Like, see, wasting time on stupid shit like this.
You get what I'm saying?
This is what hurt Hassan.
This is why being a liberal and debating inevitably handicaps yourself because you have to sit there and be politically correct and you can't just own shit.
You know what I mean?
Like, you can't just, like, fucking say, yeah, dude, whatever.
Let's move on to actual facts.
Choose to pose with this sword.
Ethan?
Answer that.
Why was the choice made for this sword?
Look at him.
He's like, I didn't even notice that shit, bro.
This guy, dude.
I didn't even notice that.
Oh, look, it's a swastika symbol on a sword.
Ah, bro.
Who cares?
Bro, I had to literally pause it, magnify in.
Who notices shit like that?
And now you're asking him to explain this.
What?
Dude, what the fuck?
I'm going to gently explain this to you again.
One, it's not a swastika, but regardless.
Do you think it looks like a swastika?
I did not make this editorial decision.
I wasn't even aware of it.
Do you think it's reasonable to perceive that as a swastika?
Ethan?
Answer the question.
Dude, it's not his video.
Why do you care?
It's not his video, Ethan.
What the fuck?
Is it reasonable to say?
No, I don't think it was a deliberate decision that iDubbs made, but I don't know.
I don't know.
Well, Hassan, they're your swords.
I need to get that sword now.
According to the New York Times article, there was 10 options.
So what's the chances that they chose the swastika one?
That seems pretty slim.
Well, you got 10 swords, don't you?
The week prior, the week prior to that, I believe.
I don't know the exact time.
I don't really remember when they shot this, but I had had the sword out because I was doing an Assassin's Creed promo.
Do you feel like if I thought it was like genuinely a swastika sword, I would use it in an Assassin's Creed promo shot?
Yes.
That's what we call a dog whistle, Hassan.
And what you're doing is gaslighting somebody.
You made a video.
Let me make a point here, Hassan, because you're the king of microaggressions and understanding the perspective of minority groups.
Right?
So you made a video.
You participated in a video accusing a Jewish ruler.
Let me finish.
Notice how they're wasting an enormous amount of time on like, oh, let's virtue signal on like, you know, you know, making minorities feel safe.
Like, see how they're not even getting into like the real debate.
They're wasting time on this bullshit.
Good question.
I don't need you to dissolve me.
I didn't even hear your question.
I need you to speak.
I'm just looking for clarification here.
Do you think that I deliberately was using a dog whistle in an Assassin's Creed promo or that it was a cool sword that was laying around because it's the only long sword that I have?
You have 10 swords.
I know they're heavy.
That's not a real sword.
Yes, I'm aware that it's not a real sword, but you had 10 to choose from.
What does it matter how much they weigh?
Yeah, the other ones are heavy.
Let me paint a scenario.
In fucking credible that they're arguing about this.
All right, let's fast forward a little bit.
Wow.
Doing a genocide by your own admission that you would consider to be appropriate because it feels like you have said are you going to tell black people not to use the n-word because it offends you?
What?
What the fuck is going on here?
Are you going to not the n-word?
Bro.
Oh my God.
Holy shit.
These guys are pussies.
Wow.
Wow.
Bruh.
Do you think this is an apt comparison?
Yes.
Okay.
So you think that being able to draw this, your anti-Semitism radar is completely out of whack.
And who are you two say that to me?
You have to lost here.
See, once you start playing, this is the problem, dude.
When you get into this fucking conversation about racism, anti-Semitism, feminism, anti-feminism, whatever, the problem is that everything is subjective, chat.
Okay?
When things are subjective, that means it's open to interpretation.
And everyone has different offend levels.
So when you play this game, you're going to lose every single time.
There's no point with arguing with people when they say you're an anti-Semite or you're a misogynist, whatever the fuck it may be, right?
There's really not a point to argue it, right?
We do it sometimes because it's funny, but like when you're actually having like a real discussion on real topics or whatever, and you get fucking filibustered or obfuscated from the talking points from shit like this, like, dude, one person might be considered anti-Semitic.
Another person might say, oh, he's just telling the truth.
Like, it is such a fucking subjective thing that it's not even worth going through the discussion because people choose to be offended by it and you can't control that.
Holy shit, man.
You're saying it's not a swastika, and you know it's not a swastika.
I mean, it literally is a swastika.
No, it's not.
Let me see the swords in your background.
Why didn't you choose one of those ones?
I didn't choose the sword.
I don't believe him.
Do you think it's a productive use of our time?
Absolutely.
So anyway, you say it's a weird.
Hassan's catching on that this is a waste of fucking time.
Cosmic flute.
Personally, if I think it was a weird cosmic flute, you say basically it's not a swastika.
The difference between the Hindu symbol and this guy.
Bro, this nigga's retarded.
Dude, it's not.
Yeah, I'm a Jewish man.
Craziness, man.
I don't know.
I don't know how, yo, his ticking has gotten worse, chat.
On IW shirt 10 years ago, you said this is the swastika sword and you keep it in your house and you use it and pose it in photos, attacking a Jewish man.
Who cares?
Who gives a fuck?
So let me try harder, bitch.
Oh, it's not a swastika.
And yeah, Europa is a base movie.
Go check it out, dumbass.
Then we can have a discussion on it since you want to cry about me fucking talking about Europa as well.
Such a fucking bitch.
Right.
And I. You see what I'm doing?
This is the difference.
If you ask a Hindu person, would they walk around with a swastika sign?
Wait, so you know it's like a swastika.
So anyway, it was a cosmic fluke.
Do you think they don't touch the swords he magically picked?
You don't need to.
Go ahead.
I am asking the next question.
I don't know what was going on.
Yes, I don't have a problem.
You're being crazy right now.
You being Jewish has nothing to do with this.
Sure.
I'm sure it doesn't.
Do you think going back that it was a mistake to use that sword?
What regional actors can my boundaries.
See, if Ethan debated somebody like me on this, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Like, the reason why he's able to make Hassan look so bad is because now he's attacking Hassan's morality.
Which the problem is that when it comes to morality, a lot of times, it could be fairly subjective when it comes to these stupid ass liberals because to them, anything that is offensive or the wrong word or whatever can be interpreted a certain way.
So now they're just getting in a battle of subjectivity and offensiveness with certain terms and a sword and shit.
Crazy, dude.
Go on a little bit more.
Okay, so you said that Jews feel like this is an exterminationist slogan and Jews fear this slogan in the U.S. Okay, I already know.
Probably the river to the sea.
Let's see here.
United States of America.
Correct.
If you think that.
Okay, let me read some chats too.
Shit, before we get into this.
Guys, by the way, Bill's going to be here at about 9 o'clock, so we're going to switch on over to Fresh Offender about 9 p.m. in about 30 minutes.
Okay, Curtis Leon says, Dang Myron, you're really late.
I think your Tyrone syndrome is genetic.
Six months from now, you're going to be wearing do-regs and demanding reparations while listening to no limit.
I don't get the point of that.
Help Frank says, wanted to start out by saying I agree with 99% of the things you say.
I only have one question that I've never been able to respond to in debates.
How's the occupation of Israel any different from when the British colonization of America?
Yeah, we fought back and got rid of him and then created the United States.
Cardaman says, so the guy that ticks all over the place like popcorn and looks like Uncle Fester from the Adams family is part of the chosen people.
Yeah, good one.
He isn't.
I'm old.
What the fuck is a Sabbath on?
We are going to basically be the Sabbathon where we're going to be getting, it's kind of like a thing that they do on Twitch to get subs to subscribe to the channel.
Get no ads and some other benefits.
Kevin J says, hey, Myron, do you think since Trump has been elected, the permeating world culture is dying or receding?
Yes, it is receding to a degree, which is good.
Our man says, Ethan is a goofy ass dork.
It's a spectacle to see him decline.
All of his friends have left him due to his lack of backbone and his wife also lacking ability to handle conversation.
So I see people like them destroy their credibility.
Yep, absolutely.
He's lost a lot of his fans because of this shit.
And I think the big reason why he's so angry at Hassan is Hassan has taken a lot of his fans.
Okay, we got here from Kevin, says, Myron, if the Jews are as powerful and as influential as they are in the U.S. government, then why, if they help Trump win, is Trump meeting many headwinds in accomplishing his agenda, such as mass deportation?
The judges will likely push back even if it's legal.
Okay, let me go ahead and have a very uncomfortable conversation with you guys.
Okay.
Look, my friend, right-wing or left-wing, the bird always goes to Israel.
So we're talking about an issue like immigration, right?
Which is a typically Republican talking point to be harder on immigration versus the Democrats.
Jews don't give a fuck about that, really, okay?
They accomplished what they needed to in the civil rights era.
I talked about this actually in detail with Sam Parker.
Go watch it.
It's on Rumble if you want to see how Jews were involved in the civil rights era and multiculturalism, et cetera.
There were some of the biggest pushers for that, right?
That's number one.
Number two, the reason why they don't really give a fuck about immigration, there's left-wing Jews that, you know, are for immigration, then right-wing Jews that are against it, is because it doesn't really impact Israel.
But what I will tell you is when it comes to Israel and Zionism and protecting of the homeland, guess what happens?
Left-wing Jews like Jonathan Greenblatt and right-wing Jews like Benjamin Shapiro immediately align, okay?
When it comes to the cause of Zionism and the protection of Israel, whether left-wing or right-wing, they're going to align, okay?
That is why, my friend, immigration is an issue, okay, that is a Republican issue.
Does that make sense?
It's a Republican issue that the Democrats fight against.
So therefore, in that line, yes, the Jews that are liberals are going to fight against the conservative Jews.
Fine, because that is an American exclusive issue.
But when it comes to Israel, that is where they unite, my friend.
Okay?
anyway King James says technically the CIA and the US army are terrorists Everybody is.
Okay, good job, King James.
Now you're seeing where I'm going with this.
Now you're seeing where I'm going with this.
Arman says, it's so funny to see H3 fail in conversation with Hassan, but then I realize that millions like him don't question the higher ups and let the government elites authorize killing of innocent life, which is truly woeful.
Okay.
Lufrock says, liberals have the most gayest arguments.
Fair, they do.
And I think we're caught up there.
Now let's go to the Rumble rants, et cetera.
Let's see here.
Okay, Plaza Stream says, is Ethan's skin suit slipping off?
Why does he look so fucking weird?
Is that inbreeding?
Probably.
You think Bill Belichick is a cuck for letting his piece run the show?
I'm not too familiar with that, but we could talk about it on Fresh and Fit.
I can't stand these two motherfuckers.
Might as well play a temple clip on top so I can off myself.
Don't do that, social observer.
Nigel says, Martin, I know you think that women typically are not interested in stuff that men are interested in, but I don't understand why every time I try to talk to my friends about Israel-Palestine situation, they tend to get bored and just want to talk about video games.
When I actually talk about Israel to women, they tend to be impressed by me.
I don't really understand.
That's because you have low IQ friends.
Sorry to break the news to you, but your friends are stupid.
And the girls are probably, they probably find you attractive, which is why they're listening to what you got to say.
You guys got to understand that the reception you get from women a lot of times isn't on a topic that you're discussing.
Rather, they're just attracted to you.
This is why they laugh at your jokes, even if they're not funny.
Spitfire says, thanks for the education, my friend.
Got you, Spitfire.
This is what I do.
Let me make sure I didn't miss any of your guys' Rumble rants or whatever.
Hey, Mario, can you one day make a video about what truly happens in slavery and how it came about?
Well, I'll tell you this.
We all know who ran the slave Atlantic slave trade.
It was them boys.
Spitfire says, thanks for the education, my friend.
Okay, I got that one.
Boom.
Okay, let me look through the fresh and fit Rumble stuff, guys.
Bear with me here.
Okay, I don't see anything here.
Okay, let's go back to reacting to this debate.
If you think that Israel is doing a genocide, do you feel like it is appropriate for Westerners in the United States of America and Palestinians and people of Palestinian descent to be able to use emancipatory slogans or should they go to jail under the Trump administration?
Okay, I mean, these are pretty extreme questions.
Now, I'm not making a value judgment.
I'm just trying to understand.
I'll understand what's happening right now.
Do you want me to answer?
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm.
Bro, the ticking is crazy.
Trying to explain the Jewish perspective.
I'm not trying to make a value judgment of it, but what I will tell you is that how do you feel about Norm Finkelstein?
Love Norm.
I know he has said that he had to say about this.
I know.
I know what he said.
I want the audience to see this.
Hassan, I want the audience to see this video.
I'm going to go ahead and do a moment for you because I know Norm's because I'm glad you know.
Let's let the honor know, Hasan.
You know what I mean?
Hey, let the audience watch the video.
I can have a nuanced, I can have a nuanced and reasonable disagreement with a person that I actually like Norm.
But I know that's the same thing.
So it's nuanced and understandable with Norm.
Let the audience watch the video, Hassan.
Okay.
Palestine will be free.
Let me go back.
Here's the Norm Finkelstein, a prominent figurehead in the Palestinian liberation movement.
And Ethan, I don't know if you know this, but he's Jewish.
So here's the thing with people like Ethan Klein.
He runs around and says, these guys are rabbit anti-Semites.
By him playing this clip, he's actually defeating his own argument by showing Norman Finkelstein, which is actually kind of fucking funny.
I know, I know.
I have more situations on this as well.
I think it's a bad slogan.
I know the slogan from the 1960s, the 1970s.
It was a bad slogan then, and it's a bad slogan now because it has too much ambiguity.
When you say from the river.
Someone's going to hit me with the chair react.
To the sea, Palestine will be free.
Obviously, a question arises.
Okay, what happens to the Jews in that scenario?
And some people will say, well, all it's about is everybody being free, but that's not what the slogan says.
So I have, you know, in recent weeks, I have waste my concern that it's a bad slogan.
And I said, just change it.
Tweak it.
Tweak it.
From the river to the sea, one person, one vote, Palestinians will be free.
And you can't answer that slogan because all you're talking about is equal rights for everyone.
From the river to the sea, one person, one vote, Palestinians will be free.
And then they're not going to be able to do that.
I don't know if he actually means the one vote thing because I think what he's saying is good in that.
From the river to the sea, Palestinians will be free, which I think is good.
You're laughing at Norm.
I'm not continually talking to campus encampments, college campus, Palestinian encampments as to, I'm not going to make much hay about the slogan in general.
There's plenty of other slogans.
Well, you're willing to listen to him, but when I say it, it becomes a big controversy.
I literally, it's not even my opinion.
I'm not going to disagree with him on that.
And you're forgetting one key factor.
What's that?
Okay.
You're forgetting one key factor.
Norm Finkelstein still ultimately will always say, while I disagree with the slogan because I think it scares people, it ultimately does not matter.
And I'm not going to stand in opposition to it.
He doesn't say it's anti-Semitic.
When have I opposed it?
Say it is extermination.
When have I opposed it?
That's what people think.
When have I opposed it?
If you think that Norm Finkelstein would be in agreement with you in any issue.
Now, here's the thing, man.
With this whole, you know, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
I don't even think this is really even important to discuss.
Let's see what they got to say.
But personally, I'm neutral on this slogan.
I don't, you know, I think that it's very natural for people to make slogans and or comments like this in the face of oppression.
It's just what they do.
So to debate this isn't really, I think it's just not really important.
But let's see what they got to say here.
I'm neutral on this.
I don't care when it comes to this slogan.
I think focusing on a slogan when there's innocent kids getting bombed all over the fucking place is a gross deflection of having a real conversation.
Have a conversation with him.
He's a liar.
That's my take on this whole, you know, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
Literally in agreement with me.
Like verbatim.
Okay.
Actually, even more anti-Semitic.
Norm doesn't think it's anti-Semitic.
Hasan, I want to say that.
Do you remember me advocating against Finkelstein?
Again, now we're getting into this situation where people, this is a subjective thing.
Oh, is it anti-Semitic or not?
Who gives a fuck?
Okay.
Like, it doesn't matter, honestly, in the grand scheme of things.
Like, this obfuscates and deflects from the real discussion to be had, which is what the fuck is going on over there.
Okay.
And what Israel is doing.
Like, and another thing, too, bro.
Like, who cares what people say?
This is the United States of America.
This isn't Tel Aviv, dude.
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech.
So let people say whatever the fuck they want to say, man.
Even the people that say, oh, fuck Gaza.
We need to destroy it.
Turn it into a, you know, a barren wasteland, which a lot of Zionists say that shit.
They should be able to say that.
And then we just debate it out.
You remember me advocating against Palestine?
If he agrees with you on anything.
Sure, I'll ask Norm Finkelstein.
Do you remember me denouncing that statement and saying people shouldn't say it?
I believe in our conversation.
No, it didn't happen.
You're lying.
You said it was anti-Semitic.
I said it's perceived that way by Jewish people.
All right, let's move on.
The Sabra tier list.
No, I do not believe it.
It's an anti-Semitic.
Very good.
I'll ask him about it.
Now, let me ask you, are you actually going to do that?
Because that would be wonderful.
I'm going to talk to Norman.
We'll have a great conversation about the From the River to the Sea.
Wait, can I ask you one question?
No, no, it's my turn.
You know what?
You know what?
You go ahead.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
That's very gracious of you.
I mean, it's just a back and forth conversation, but you seemingly have a lot of grievances not pertaining to the actual issue at hand.
My friend, the issue at hand is your behavior.
No, I think the issue at hand is the genocide.
St. Francis tipped.
Ethan is trying to summon his best impersonation of those clickers from The Last of Us.
Oh, we seem to be coming at this from two different angles, which is great.
Also, guys, run a sub-a-thon, Matt.
To the channel on Fresh and Fit.
Okay, guys, where the goals hit 5,000.
We're going to be pushing a lot more once we do the Fresh and Fit show.
But we are running a subathon.
This is the beginning of it.
This is like kind of the pregame, right?
We're covering this topic here.
And then we're going to cover the other stuff probably that we missed that I was supposed to cover on Fresh and Fit.
Right?
So let me ask you this.
Hold on.
You said it's my turn to ask.
You already know.
You already know that we're going to be going into the night, my friends.
Calculum.
Pawn.
Ask the question of what?
There's a genocide.
You already recognize that Israel is committing a genocide.
I can care about two things, Hassan.
It's very important to acknowledge that.
Don't you think?
I can care about two things, my friends.
Your own personal feelings.
I'm not that smart, but I can care about two things.
Okay, no, even if one is more urgent than the other.
You think your own personal feelings, born out of your misunderstandings, is more important.
Did I say that?
I said one is more urgent than the other, referring to the genocide.
Oh, okay.
So you recognize that genocide is a more urgent question.
Please, let me ask you almost all of your commentary surrounding this issue.
Okay, so even he calls it a genocide.
I'm talking about your own personal feelings and how you've been wronged by people.
Very good.
Let me ask you.
So you claimed.
Can you answer that question?
No, Hassan, you asked your question.
It's my turn.
I talked about how gracious you were, man.
What happened?
They should have had a moderator in this situation.
It was actually really stupid for them to have this debate without a moderator.
Wait, wait, but you're so gracious.
You're going to let me ask you a question.
What happened?
Does that make sense?
Don't make me take it back.
All right, let me know.
That makes sense to you.
Hold on to that.
Ask me after this.
You defended Frogan's use of the Sabra tier list.
What was your opinion on that?
Bro, literally, now they're arguing about fucking hummus, bro.
Come on, man.
What the fuck?
Oh, my God.
Go ahead.
I think that the Sabra Hummus tier list is absolutely insane to consider anti-Semitic.
And most people have already laughed about it.
Despite the fact that it was very damaging in terms of their hummus sucks.
Who cares?
Yes, Israeli hummus sucks.
It's not the same as Arab hummus.
Just fucking say it, Hassan.
God fucking damn it.
Yes, Israelis jack Arab cuisine all the fucking time.
Okay?
When you go to an Israeli cuisine restaurant, a lot of the times it's fucking Mediterranean Arab food.
They steal our land and they steal our food.
Next fucking topic.
Who cares?
Their hummus sucks.
Everybody knows this.
Everyone from the Arab world knows their hummus sucks.
Just say it, dude.
If they consider that anti-Semitic, oh well.
Their hummus blows.
No one likes it.
It's a fucking joke.
In terms of deplatforming a bunch of content creators that participated in this, egged on by yourself, by the way.
Yes.
With pleasure.
Yes, guys.
They're literally arguing about hummus dip.
Yes.
Israeli hummus is trash and everybody knows this.
Even Israelis will tell you that their hummus sucks.
It's not even remotely.
Okay.
It's not even remotely anti-Semitic.
Very good.
I'm asking the cracker band that Twitch capitulated on.
Yeah.
Indian food sucks too.
It stinks and it sucks and it's spicy and it doesn't taste good.
It's an opinion.
Who cares?
Bro, is trying to sit here and say, oh, bro, oh, you're talking about hummus.
It's so, it's so anti-Semitic.
Shut the fuck up, man.
Holy shit.
See, and this is what I'm trying to say.
Now, Assad can't, because he's a liberal, because he's a progressive, it would be offensive for him to say, yeah, Israeli hummus sucks.
Okay?
It sucks.
You guys steal our hummus, and you can't even fucking make that good.
It blows.
But he can't say this because he's a pussy and he's a leftist and leftists can't be honest about shit like this.
Yeah, your hummus sucks, bro.
Oh, well.
So let me follow up with this.
Have you seen the thumbnail?
The thumbnail?
Yes, that's what I said.
This is the thumbnail that's still up.
Now, let me ask you this, Hassan.
Here's Frogan's thumbnail for the Sabra Hummus tier list.
In the F tier is me and Ben Shapiro.
Ben Shapiro is not in the tier list.
He has never explored or used.
Why do you think Ben Shapiro is on the F tier?
Ethan?
Whoa, answer the question.
What you're dodging.
I'm not iDubbs.
Oh, but you can't make value judgments suddenly on your friends who you've spent all this time defending.
No.
Look at this.
She's so bad about her fucking roast.
Bro, who cares?
Because I don't give.
I don't care.
Well, I do.
I don't.
I think it's great you don't care.
Why is Ben Shapiro?
Shapiro there.
I don't know.
I don't care, probably, because he's also watching.
Because it's the most two prominent, most prominent Jewish creators on YouTube.
Do you think Ben Shapiro's Judaism is the reason as to why?
100% without a doubt, yes.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Yeah, go ahead.
Take your time.
I know it's a lot to process.
Okay.
Yeah, this is a lot to process.
Yeah, bro, is really fucking complaining about her making a tier list, bro.
This is how much of a bitch Ethan Klein is, man.
Bro is literally complaining.
Like he's listing out all his grievances with Hassan on this shit.
This is actually the comedy to fucking witness how sensitive progressives are, man.
Yeah, I know, man.
It's tough.
You really don't know what to say because it looks pretty bad.
No, because it's so fucking stupid to tell me that.
Why is Ben having a hard time?
Like, I don't know why fucking Frogan made this thumbnail.
All right, let's fast forward this shit, bro.
Austic is on PewDiePie, but Rafi can't say that there is a tier list here where Sabragan's tier listeners are lowest.
You're like Sabra Hummus.
Are you being serious right now?
By the way, is that a beat?
They're literally arguing about hubbus, bro.
What the fuck is this, man?
A bunch of people both bench tier list.
If you think that it's like all about anti-Semitism and do you think dead to rights because they're not anti-Semitic.
Well, they're not wearing a shirt that says I hate Jews, but they're walking around with Jews on the bottom.
I mean, that's as close as you can pretty much fucking get them just saying, I hate Jewish people.
Ethan, it seems to me like the guy who's all about microaggressions and understands the perspective of minorities and stuff telling a Jewish man that he's hallucinating anti-Semitism and won't even concede that this.
Yeah, you are hallucinating.
You label everything as anti-Semitism, Ethan.
And this is why a lot of people don't take you seriously.
You want everyone that has criticized you to be anti-Semitic?
That's exactly what it is.
It makes you feel better about your position.
It's not your own personal positions that you have explained to people that come across like you're using anti-Semitism as a shield to deflect criticisms against Israel.
This is we are actually out and about anti-Semites.
That'll make you feel a little bit more comfortable, like you've won the argument in your mind, and that your community would also finally go, oh, yeah, you're right, you're a permanent victim.
And this is even very far.
Let's fast forward this some more.
Holy shit.
Destructive and sinister.
Candace Owens is outrageous.
Hold on there.
Okay, let's move on.
Here we go.
They're going to Candace Owens.
Let's go.
And look, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm doing that.
Hold on the phone.
You asked me two questions together.
I'm going to answer both.
You said, do you think I'm anti-Semitic?
After talking to you so far today, I can say unreservedly yes.
Do I think that you are more anti-Semitic than Candace Owens?
No.
But I think your form anti-Semitic.
Do I think you're more anti-Semitism?
He's like, fuck it, spass it out, bro.
This guy's going crazy.
Semitism is way more destructive and sinister.
Candace Owens is outrageous.
Hold on there, Hassan.
This is an important question.
You think I'm anti-Semitic now?
Because who needs to be an anti-war?
Okay.
And this is the thing, bro.
See, look, man.
I got to give myself a little bit of credit here on this one.
Calculum punch.
As you guys know, I went viral on Pierce Morgan for saying no one gives a fuck if you call us anti-Semites anymore.
We'll be more concerned when you guys call us liars.
And the reason why I've been saying this now for the better part of a year is because this is what I've come to realize.
And this is what Hassan doesn't understand.
If you're critical of Israel, if you're critical of Jewish power, if you're critical of anything that has to do with them boys, they're going to call you an anti-Semite, okay?
So you can't argue from the position of I'm not an anti-Semite.
You need to just say, look, can you call me a liar or not, bro?
Okay.
If you can't call me a liar, then shut the fuck up.
That's how you end that discussion.
Because the problem is certain people have certain different sensitivities.
And some people will interpret anything that you say as anti-Semitic.
And other people will say, no, I don't consider that anti-Semitic.
I consider that a valid critique.
But the problem is that when you open yourself up to subjectivity, it's open to the person to interpret it however they feel and whatever their worldview is at the time.
So instead of trying to use terms like anti-Semitism or running from it, just say, you know what, dude?
Can you call me a liar or not?
Let's be objective here.
This is how you defeat idiots like Ethan.
But since, again, Hassan is a progressive and he has to come from a position of moral correctness and being totally inclusive, he can't be called an anti-Semite and sit there.
He has to fight back on this thing.
And that is a losing battle because it is subjective.
So losers like Ethan can sit there and call everyone an anti-Semite.
So the way you deal with these idiots is to say, oy Vey, am I telling the truth though?
That's what matters.
Until you can call me a liar, then shut the fuck up.
That's all it comes down to, bro.
That's all it comes down to.
You're not going to browbeat me with your stupid terms of anti-Semitism, which are subjective at best.
They're not objective.
Anyone can call you an anti-Semite for anything.
If I say Israeli hummus sucks, people will call me an anti-Semite for that.
So who cares anymore?
Really?
Who gives a fuck?
You're not as anti-Semitic as Candace Owens, but you're still anti-Semitic.
Fuck this nigga, bro.
Yo, where am I a liar, though?
That's what matters.
That's what matters.
I'm going to answer.
Okay.
Your form of anti-Semitism is way more insidious because it's silent.
It's tricky.
She's out there just saying what she believes.
It's silent.
It's tricky.
Believes.
And I respect her for that.
Nick Fuentes is just out there.
Nobody knows that what's his stance on Israel.
Dennis Owens' stance on Israel.
But you're tricky.
What you do is deny the heritage of Middle Eastern Jews, stuff like that.
You accuse them of being always the oppressor.
Always, always.
Everything.
And by the way, you spent the first part of this debate calling me insane for what I think most people would perceive as belatant, obvious anti-Semitic attacks.
I don't think most people would look at what you're doing right now.
Well, let's not worry about that.
Let's get a sign of mental sanity.
Well, we'll have time to pull the audience afterwards.
So let's continue.
Okay.
All right.
Well, look, going back to the Theo Vaughn situation, and you said I'm anti-Semitic, right?
Yesterday you said, or two days ago, in the aftermath of the...
Just tell him, call me a liar, then I'll care.
Hassan, don't explain yourself on this stupid shit, bro.
Like, again, but he's a progressive, so he has to do this bullshit.
Sam Cedar conversation, you said, I'm not anti-Semitic.
So what has changed in that process?
Is it this conversation that you and I had?
Yes.
Okay.
All right, got it.
All right.
Here's the clip, by the way.
You accused me of not.
You accused me of not mentioning that Theo Von did not ask you about Rick Scott.
Let's go back and watch the clip.
No, I said, the small head guy.
Ethan, I used my words very carefully.
I said in the Instagram story that you're saying, I don't watch your stream that much.
I don't, you know, I don't, I always in the waiting room.
That's crazy.
Do you see the resemblance?
What?
That's you're this guy.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
This is what Ethan does.
Like, he totally deflects from the conversation to make a poorly timed joke thinking that this is funny.
From Beetlejuice.
In this photo, you have the same.
Because his audience is retarded and doesn't actually understand the political ramifications of the discussion being had here and is like literally goldfish attention span.
Oh, this is so funny, small head woo!
Colt and shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's.
You are a comedian.
I sure am, buddy.
I see you laughing.
All right, anyway.
So you accused me of misrepresenting what happened.
Let's play the clip.
$800 billion in Medicare and Medicaid that I want to cut.
Mike Johnson goes on stage, says, I goes on Caitlin Collins on CNN and says, oh, there's a lot of fraud happening.
There's not fraud happening in Medicare and Medicaid on the point of the recipient.
It's happening on the point of the providers.
And that's why I got banned recently on Twitch yesterday because he just got back.
Yeah, Libs of TikTok was like posting about how I said something.
What is this?
And they missed it.
He only got banned a day, by the way, for this, which goes to show like the fucking ridiculousness with Twitch where they purposely.
It's absolutely wild how they insulate left-wing creators, but they banned conservatives, bro.
Wild.
Misconstrued it as though it was a call to action to he can say, oh, kill a U.S. senator on stream, banned for one day, but then they'll go ahead and ban people like me and Sneeko for off-platform behavior.
That's why no one likes Twitch, and this is why they're fucking losing.
Literally, TikTok is beating them for streams, by the way, chat.
TikTok is literally beating Twitch for streaming when Twitch is a streaming platform.
Fucking hilarious.
They're going to go out of business if they keep doing this bullshit.
Assassinate a self-sorry.
Okay.
All right, let's fast.
Take narratives.
Or do you think that anti-Semitism is when you feel bad personally?
And that could be any number of different things that I. It's based on when he feels bad.
I've done in any given moment.
Yes, I think you were just as bad as her in your own special way.
And that's why I was on anti-Semitism in my own special way.
Yes.
Okay, got it.
Very good.
Cool.
Very good.
So let me ask you a question.
Can I ask you a question?
Can you now officially not talk about like folks?
This is why you can't give a fuck anymore.
Because look, you literally just put him in the same box as Candace Owens.
You can't win with these people.
They're going to call you an anti-Semite no matter what.
And this is where Hassan just needs to embrace being called an anti-Semite and stop being a bitch.
Again, or anyone else and tell me why.
I'm so fucking terrified of the ADL, it's embarrassing.
Like, bro, just say it.
Okay, whatever.
You guys want to call me an anti-Semite?
Fuck you guys.
Call me a liar, then I'll be worried.
That's what I say with these niggas now.
They're going to call you an anti-Semite no matter what, dude.
I'm anti-Semitic.
Well, yesterday.
Two years ago, you said I wasn't, but I also, for a year.
You're kidding yourself.
Well, I am because you haven't answered this question.
I have literally answered it probably two times.
The reason that I'm saying you're anti-Semitic is because you responded to my question at the beginning of this interview.
Ethan, for an entire year, you called me a virulent anti-Semite.
Rabid anti-Semitism.
You never did.
You did.
You did.
I actually went back and checked.
I had said that you spread anti-Semitism and stuff, but I never called you an anti-Semitic.
I anti-Semitic.
I went back and changed my mind.
I was simply spreading anti-Semitism.
It's a difference.
Okay, got it.
Okay.
Okay.
Can I ask you personally?
Is about Habibi, not Saber.
You're conceding the framing.
Yeah, we're not conceding to anything.
I don't want to even talk about the tear list anymore.
Stop it.
Okay.
Okay, let me ask you my turn.
Do you think it's appropriate to accuse, do you think it's appropriate to accuse any Jewish person you disagree with of working with the ADL?
No.
Here, for example, is someone using an anti-Semitic.
Ethan Klein and ADL in unison.
Hassan, let me finish.
You're getting ahead of me.
Yes, I do.
I do think that that's what I think.
That's a valid thing to not only speculate, but also I'll stand on that for sure.
Hassan, I'm getting there.
You're getting ahead of yourself, buddy.
Here's an example of it being used in an anti-Semitic way.
I'm sure you'll agree.
Well, timeline of that doesn't make a lot of sense.
What is this?
This is your fan who ran up on me on Redeal.
Who the fuck is this guy?
My fan?
Yeah.
Why are you blaming him for someone that watches this show?
What the fuck, Ethan?
You remember.
Wait, is this the...
This debate is insane, dude.
This is fucking wild.
He's complaining about a fan that insulted him in LA.
Is this a guy?
Yeah, you remember.
No, no, this is the guy that you claimed was my fan, right?
He was calling me the fucking person.
I mean, there's a clip.
I love this dude.
Anyway, who cares if he's your fan or not?
No, no, no, he is.
No, no, no, no.
Hold on.
No.
You brought this up.
It doesn't matter.
I'm showing him as an example of.
It does matter.
He's fine.
He's not a fan.
I don't care.
You brought him up.
Wait, what do you mean you don't care?
If I brought him up here, Hassan, if I brought him up, let me finish my point.
He's not a fan of mine.
Why did you make it seem like that person was a fan of mine then?
Let me get to there.
Okay.
You asked me.
It's my turn to ask a question.
Just because I brought him up doesn't give you space to interact.
Is it because he rolled up to me?
Let me finish.
Is that why?
Yes.
Thank you very much.
Very clearly disturbed by his presence.
Hassan, I think you know where I'm going, and I think you're scared.
Yo, this is crazy, bro.
Again, this is pure deflection, obfuscation from the topics at hand.
Ethan has an agenda here to make, to basically give grievances on nonsensical topics that a lot of times don't even involve Hassan, but he's more pissed off from an emotional perspective.
I'll be honest here.
Ethan is behaving like a fucking woman.
Yep.
Are you answering the question?
Why did you falsely claim that this fucking random dude who does not like me is a fan of mine?
Didn't you use...
Alright, Hassan, here you go, buddy.
Here we go.
You wanted it?
I got it.
I love you.
I'm so sorry.
I love you.
I'm so sorry.
I love you.
I love you, bro.
You're my girl, bro.
You're like, you're the gold.
Wow.
How crazy.
I'm fucking.
Is this another hysterical delusion?
Yes, it is.
And I'm going to tell you exactly why.
Wow, dude, I love you.
You're the goat, bro.
Bro, Ethan is such a bitch.
Holy shit.
If you watch the unedited full live stream, we spent a good deal of the entirety of the encampment running away from him.
He's trying to ask me dumbass fucking questions.
Hey, but that's having nothing to do with these fancy dumb assistants for his own dumbass podcast.
You're derailing this, and I need to.
I'm not derailing it.
You're absolutely derailing when I'm telling you I was there and I'm telling you the situation.
Very good.
You are nefariously making it seem as though this person is a massive fan of mine.
He's just trying to cloud chase.
I'll play it again.
Wow.
Dude, so basically, a guy that's a fan of Hassan Piker.
So Ethan is basically pissed off that Hassan took a picture with this guy who is his own creator.
This happens a lot, by the way.
People don't really like you, but they want to take pictures with you or try to associate with you in order to try to cloud chase or whatever.
And that's what happened here.
And Ethan is pissed off that this guy that harassed him in LA took a picture with Hassan from a fan perspective.
And Hassan doesn't really know or fuck with him like that.
Like, this is wild, dude.
How sensitive Ethan is, dude.
This is a very personal vendetta for this fucking guy.
You can play the move again.
Oh, my God.
I love you, Hassan.
You can tell that Hassan's actually uncomfortable here.
Who I am in the midst of it.
You're like, oh, I'm my girl.
I'm my hero, bro.
I love you.
You're the coolest guy in the world.
Hold on, I think I look Gay now.
I think I'm gay now.
Ethan.
Ethan.
Yes, sir.
Ethan.
Ethan.
Okay.
If you think he was a fan of mine, why'd you call him a Sneeko fan when you interviewed him?
Because he's both.
I mean, surely there's cross-class.
Oh, there's a there's a cross-co I need to play the video again.
My producer.
March.
My producer, my rock.
March.
I'll give you a homeboy.
I'm so sweet, bro.
Bro, attacking him for a guy that calls himself a fan is actually fucking wild, bro.
Holy shit.
Ethan is such a bitch.
I'm so sorry.
He's in the chat right now.
You're my hero, bro.
All right, bro.
Let's assume he was a huge fan.
Like, Hassan's not responsible for his fucking fans, dude.
Like, the guys are grown, man.
Like, take your fucking grievances with that guy.
We're moving on.
This is crazy.
Since you guys are playing clips over now.
By the way, this was a while ago.
He turned on you when he saw that you supports trans rights.
I know.
He spoke ill of you.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Even before he actually went.
don't care about this guy.
No, I...
You just wasted a whole segment on him.
What do you mean you don't care about him?
You fucking retard.
This is what Ethan does.
Yo, this is mind-boggling to me.
Holy shit.
Seemingly you care?
I don't care about this guy.
Proceeds to engage in a whole fucking segment on this fucking guy and have clips ready to go to attack Hassan with it.
Bro, I can't believe that I'm actually coming to this fucking guy's defense here in this situation.
Ethan is such a fucking pussy.
He's just so unlikable that I actually have to come in here and defend Hassan.
This is wild to me, man.
But Hassan is too much of a fucking retard to properly debate this situation.
All right, so here he is using the ADL.
He's more concerned with like not using offensive language than actually telling Ethan that he's a fucking retard and he's a ticking moron and he isn't in bread and we need to have a real conversation on what the fuck is going on in Gaza.
Yo, he accuses me of being in the ADL and I'll play it.
Operation.
Okay.
I don't know, but I heard you survived it and I survived you.
I heard you survive the Holocaust.
That timeline of that doesn't make a lot of sense.
I heard you're in the ADL, bro.
Hey, the ADL?
No, I'm not.
All right, so he says, I heard you're in the ODL, bro, which, like, obviously, is, you know, I perceive that as anti-Semitism.
I don't think you're in the ADL, Ethan.
I perceive him saying that you're in the ADL's anti-Semitic.
See, this is what I'm trying to say, bro.
Like, everything is anti-Semitic to Ethan, dude.
If that's what you're going to say, you said, and I did say you were here.
Fuck the ADL.
What are you talking about?
You are a variant fucking liar.
Ethan, did you or did you not take ownership over the bands?
I think, yeah, I might have.
Does that mean that I'm working with the ADL?
Hey, Hassan, can I ask you a question?
Are you working with the neo-Nazi party of America?
Oh, shit.
Hold on one second.
This is interesting.
Hold on.
Quickly skipping along and happen to just without even seeing each other, just working together in perfect harmony and love.
And by the way, I'm pretty sure you're implying that I worked directly with them on this.
No, I don't.
I don't believe that.
Well, you doubled down on it.
You said that you do believe that.
And I just want to let you know that that is a different thing.
No, I don't think you're directly.
I work with them.
I think your goals are aligned on this.
Yes.
For Mr. Precise Words, say that.
Don't say you're partnered with the ADL.
Do you understand?
You said partnered with the ADL.
Me, a Jewish man, you accuse without any evidence at all of being partnered with the ADL.
You're now trying to rewrite history.
Oh my God, as if Ethan doesn't fucking misrepresent and say a bunch of bullshit as well.
Okay, you might not be working directly with the ADL, but your content, your worldview, a lot of the opinions that you make is used as evidence by the ADL to get people canceled.
You fucking idiot.
Besides that, you might as well fucking be working with them directly.
You are a liar.
What are you talking about?
You are a variant fucking liar.
Ethan, did you or did you not take ownership over the bands?
I think, yeah, I might have.
Cooked.
Because Ethan complained about me and Sneeko being back on Twitch, and that actually led to us getting banned.
So I can speak from fucking experience here that Ethan did play a part in this happening and the ADL's crusade to get pro-Palestine people kicked off of Twitch.
So fuck you, Ethan.
He is right.
Does that mean that I'm working with the ADL?
Hey, Hassan, can I ask you a question?
Are you working?
You were indirectly involved in getting people banned.
And here's the other thing, too.
Hassan is too.
Hassan's bitch ass was also calling people like us.
These guys are real anti-Semites to protect themselves.
So Hassan isn't safe either.
He's also a pussy with this.
Working with the neo-Nazi Party of America because they're also anti-Zionist.
No, seriously, are you working with the neo-Nazi group of America who's also anti-Zionist?
Did you work with them?
Are you affiliated with them?
Are you paying for anti-Semitic incidents or a neo-Nazi?
I completely agree with it.
Here, here's a parallel for you.
Have I taken credit for a neo-Nazi anti-Semitic incident that took place?
Because if the answer is yes, if neo-Nazis engaged in an action, neo-Nazis actually, not like you're fucking hooked.
Ethan was complaining about Twitch streamers all day on fucking Instagram stories saying that they're anti-Semitic and the ADL ran with that fucking narrative.
So yes, he did assist the ADL in getting people banned.
Whether he wants to admit it or not, he was fairly directly involved in that.
Hallucinations.
And so was Hassan because Hassan's a bitch.
Something that we all agree.
Like neo-Nazis did an anti-Semitic incident and I took credit for it and said, this is awesome.
I'm glad that it happened.
I made numerous videos so that they would do this.
Yes, I was on the tier.
In saying that, he was literally targeting me.
I was on the tier list.
Why would you consider Ethan?
I don't have to be a member of ADL to respond to somebody harassing me.
Listen to my words.
Please, listen, listen to my words.
trying, but it's just fucking lies and filth and like empty air.
My, for your, for, from your perspective, my association as a 10 year fighter of antisemitism, my association from your perspective with antisemitism is like.
Now he's going to go into the thing and try to virtual signal, bro.
Bro, don't even get down this fucking battle, man.
I fight against anti-Semitism.
Fuck that shit.
All right, I'm anti-Semite.
Let's go ahead and talk about the topics now.
Are you happy?
All right.
See, but now I'm going to waste time trying to sit here and say virtue signal for this shit.
Dollars in your context, puke that you did as a further indication that you are pro-Palestinian.
Even though you then turned around and actually criticized additional fundraisers that had taken place, like the creators for Palestine Charity that generated $1.3 million, including the fundraiser that you initially had given $6,500 to as a reason for why you were such a staunch ally.
Why did you turn around and say that pro-Palestinian fundraisers are actually completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and completely useless?
Do you think that pro-Palestinian charities are simply there to make yourself feel like you're pro-Palestine?
Do you feel like $6,500 was enough for yourself to spend the rest of the year de-platforming, actively deplatforming pro-Palestinian?
I'll answer your question.
So I claimed when talking about, now, by the way, this is something I criticize you for, which is, you know, being obtuse, mischaracterizing arguments, and basically just being a prolific liar.
So here's what the conversation was about, right?
I was talking about how when you're talking about activism, raising money isn't the most important thing because it can only do so much.
There's other ways to do effective activism, like protesting, et cetera, et cetera, working with Palestinian organizations.
So I'm just saying, my point was not that.
But raise on and hold the phone.
Let me finish.
My point was that not that raising money is bad or dumb or pointless, as you erroneously claim I said.
My point was that it's not the most effective thing in the world.
And there's other things.
It's probably like the least effective form of advocacy you can do.
That was my opinion.
All right.
That's opinion.
It's a retarded opinion, but let's move forward because giving money and actually puts your money where your mouth is.
At least something you can critique.
A little frivolous.
Does that justify lying about me continually for a year and a half just because you don't like where I'm focused?
That seems immaterial.
Lying about what?
About me being a destiny fan, about hallucinating, sweeping free.
Now they're talking about destiny.
Anti-Semitic friends.
Lying about content.
The last conversation that we had where I am trying to gently nudge you in the direction of sanity.
Ethan, I want you to really understand.
You're crazy.
You're crashing out.
You're hallucinating, my friend.
Come sit over here.
You know what I mean?
Don't ignore the swastika.
Ignore the accusations of working with the ADL with no credibility.
Ignore the tier list with fucking Ben Shapiro and Ethan.
Come sit here.
You're hallucinating.
Oh, thank you so much.
You know what?
Thank you, Hassan.
That's so kind of you.
How fucking genuine of you to take off the baby gloves, you fucking liar.
I mean, this is a prolific liar, bro.
Where's the link?
Just control F for the reason, for the record, the reason why I don't like to bring Gila into the conversation is because I'm addressing my concerns with you.
And I don't think that it's appropriate for me to, you know.
No, it is appropriate.
His wife's a fucking terrorist.
You need to bring that in, dude.
There's no fighting nice with idiots like this, Hassan.
Stop being a bitch.
Extend.
His wife is a terrorist.
She is literally a member of the IDF, aka the Israeli occupation forces.
She was involved in the kidnapping of an individual in Ramallah.
She was young, blah, blah, blah.
Well, it doesn't matter, dude.
It doesn't fucking matter.
Okay?
She's a part of the Israeli Occupation Force, aka terrorist organization.
If dumbass Ethan Klein is going to constantly call you a terrorist sympathizer and a terrorist apologist, fine.
Tell him that his wife is an actual terrorist.
But you need because she is.
And the IDF is a terrorist organization by definition.
That's a little silly considering you're like, well, actually, it was Ela who influenced your opinion, the evil IDF lady.
Okay, while we're waiting for the clip, deny the violent rapes that took place.
That is way beyond the pale.
They didn't happen.
They didn't happen.
And there's a reason why the Israelis will not allow the UN to go in and do their own independent investigation.
The only evidence that they have of these mass grapes that you're talking about were the placement of the bodies after they were killed.
But there is no physical and or tangible evidence, i.e.
rape kits, et cetera, that proved this.
Lying.
Anything.
It was actually the Israelis that did the mass grapes.
Calculum punch.
Because they purposely got caught on video graping a Palestinian prisoner.
They tried to hide it from the camera, but it was there.
And then those Israelis, those IDF members, went to jail.
And guess what happened?
The Israelis protested saying, yo, release them right now.
It is their right to be able to grape Palestinians.
That's the truth, dumb fuck, Ethan.
Calculum punch.
So we actually have tangible proof and video evidence of them graping a Palestinian prisoner, okay?
Sodomizing him.
We have proof of that.
And then we also have Israelis protesting for him to be released on the grounds that they can do it because he is Goyam.
He is not Jewish.
He is not even worthy of human rights.
That is the difference, my friend.
You are talking about, oh, yeah, there's like proof of mass grapes on October 7th.
Not true.
There is no proof of it.
The only proof they have is the way the bodies were left, but there were no rape kits.
But we actually have real proof of Israeli IDF soldiers raping Palestinian prisoners.
So get the fuck out of here, Ethan Klein, you retard.
And that is how Hassan should have responded to this fucking idiot when it comes to the grapes.
There is one instance in captivity.
Uh-oh, Cherry Act.
We have.
I'm not going to let you cherry act to me, buddy.
You grab that, Dr. Pepper.
Oh, wait.
No, I said I'm listening to you.
Don't worry.
I was just grabbing another soda.
Go ahead.
Beyond the pale.
There is one instance in captivity.
I sure did.
There is one instance in captivity that we have actually.
Yes, Chad, for those of you that are wondering, it's on CCTV.
What I'm saying is a fact.
You can literally look it up.
IDF soldiers literally graped a Palestinian prisoner.
And when they went to jail, the Israelis took to the streets to protest these Israeli soldiers being in prison, saying they have a right to be able to grape Palestinian prisoners.
It's all there, my friends.
I'm telling you guys.
Wild.
Beyond that, the systematized mass rapes that Hamas dealt on October 7th, not a single bit of that has been verified.
And it's true.
It hasn't been verified.
We'll still run with it over and over and over again.
Many young people who are simply attending a music festival.
Yes, and these stupid politicians like Kamala Harris and Biden kept lying, kept running with the lies of the beheaded babies and the mass grapes.
Not true.
Women were horribly raped.
I can't see myself by the way after showing myself.
Bro, what rapes did Hamas do?
What are you talking about?
Hamas anti-Semitism account that considered me to be anti-Semite of the week has also been hallucinating rapes once again.
Doing rape fantasies once again because they're fucking mentally ill.
Hamas has guided her.
The closest that they came to the grapes, one of the first prisoners that was released was a woman, okay, from Hamas custody.
And they asked her, Were you graped?
You know what she said?
Oh, I wasn't, but I feel like the Hamas fighter that was watching me was graping me with his eyes.
That's literally what she said, bro.
I have a fun interview for y'all niggas.
That's something you go to a lot.
You notice that?
Called people mentally ill.
Find that odd.
Probably should revise that.
I don't know if that's kosher for leftist values.
Horrific acts.
I'm not exactly doing a lot of stuff that's kosher for leftist values.
So you have no problem weaponizing mental health.
I get when someone is hallucinating, I think it's appropriate to say that.
By your authority, I will decide who's hallucinating.
Hassan?
Watch this.
Eden.
Look, you know, unlike dumbass Edith Klein, I got proof of this shit.
Look, here's one of the.
This is one of the hostages that was released early on.
All right, she's speaking in Hebrew, so I'll have to read some of this for you guys.
I was closed in a dark room, not allowed to talk, not allowed to be seen, to be heard, hidden.
There's a terrorist looking at you 24/7, looking, raping you with his eyes.
Is that how you felt?
Obviously.
He had such a bad look.
And this is what I mean when I say that, you know, the problem with subjectivity is it's open to interpretation based on the individual.
We need to go off of facts when it comes to this stuff.
So she goes, His wife was outside the room with the children.
That was the only reason he didn't grape me.
He didn't grape you.
Oh.
His wife hated the fact that he and I were in the same room.
She hated it, so she had toyed with me.
You know, she would bring us meals.
She fed you?
She would bring him and she wouldn't bring me.
I was scared of being graped very much.
That was my biggest fear.
I was afraid that something would suddenly happen.
So you know, I talked to him as a friend.
I was afraid that it would happen something suddenly.
I said, I met him in my family.
He started with...
At some point he started to talk to me about his problems with his wife.
I was talking about his problems with his wife.
Like what...
What did he say to you?
And then he said that he doesn't love her.
Interesting.
So, no rapes occurred.
Good bills?
Frank wants to say I'm going to move my bomb.
When you end, let me know.
I have to take over at the same time.
Oh, okay, okay.
I'll end here in a second then.
I'll end on this one.
So, yeah, guys, basically, so you can see here that she was not graped.
So, to be clear, he didn't touch her.
Like, bro, come on, man.
And here's the thing.
Perfect opportunity, right?
But even she said, when incentivized, did they grape you?
Did they grape you?
Nope.
Nope.
Oh, shit.
Just debunking the fucking propaganda one by one, chat.
One by one.
So anyway, guys, I think we're going to make the switch on over to Fresh and Fit here in a little bit.
Yo, Bills.
Bills.
We're going to get, we're going to make this switch because Bills is here.
I think they're ready to go.
We're going to raid the Fresh of Fit chat.
Here, you need to, can you grab Bills?
No, no, no.
All the girls are late.
And like, first isn't here.
First isn't here?
Not yet.
God damn, everybody's on nigga time, huh?
The girls aren't here.
Fresh isn't here, so you need to go here if you want.
God damn it.
All right.
I guess the show goes on, guys.
We got a bunch of niggas in the house showing up late.
I'm not fucking leaving.
The show goes on.
All right, let's keep going.
Son, I am so sorry.
You promised that we would watch this.
I pulled it up.
Now sit silently and none of the victims that came out, guys, that were being held by Hamas were graped.
That was just one of them.
That was one of the first ones.
And guess what?
She wasn't graped.
Clips of me saying that women is men and boys.
They grape me with my eyes.
Get the fuck out of here.
Slaughtered after enduring sexual violence.
The deadliest thing for the Jewish people.
Doesn't matter.
I saw with the black nails looks like an idiot.
I've heard fucking rapes happen on October 7th.
Like, that doesn't change the dynamic for me even this much.
So that's the other part of this problem.
It didn't happen.
People can't contend with.
I can't believe how quickly leftists go from believe all women to pick sorry didn't happen.
There you go, Hassan.
What do you got?
And that's the problem when you're a leftist.
See how he's saying, oh, I can't believe that leftists just go from like, you know, we believe all women to pick sorry didn't happen.
This is the problem with being a progressive because they're holding you to this retarded fucking standard of we need to believe all women.
How about this?
We don't believe all women.
A lot of them fucking lie.
Okay?
I think we've been seeing that since 2016 that women will lie when it benefits them.
Okay?
All the fucking time on dudes.
So we're not going to go ahead and run with this narrative of believe all women.
Fuck out of here, Ethan Klein.
Okay?
Get the fuck out of here.
But again, he's able to beat up on Hassan on this stuff because Hassan is what?
A progressive.
You can't debate these fucking retards from a progressive standpoint because you inevitably fight with one hand behind your back because you have to be politically correct as you're tackling very controversial issues.
Guess what?
I don't believe a lot of women.
All right.
I believe the evidence.
I don't believe no bitches.
Okay?
Because I know a lot of the times they have an incentive to fucking lie.
All right?
They do.
Like this dumbass bitch, I was raped with my eyes.
Get the fuck out of here, bro.
What does that mean?
Were you actually sexually assaulted?
Did he even touch you?
Oh, no.
Then shut the fuck up.
We don't care how you feel.
I feel like he was going to rape me, but did he?
Oh, no.
Then shut the fuck up.
It doesn't matter how you feel, bitch.
How you feel versus what's real are two different things.
But Hassan is too much of a pussy to say that because he's a progressive and he has to appeal to his female audience.
So he's fighting one hand behind his back because it becomes who's the bigger virtue signaler?
Yeah, Pigs are didn't happen.
That's great commentary, by the way.
Okay, I mean, it's very apt.
Okay, so let's talk about it.
Myron, can you please have Rumble Fresh of Fit mods unmute or unban or clean clear the ban list?
Chat speeches so I could chat and watch there.
Yeah, I'll tell I'll tell Mo to clear the list.
I didn't even realize that we had a bunch of y'all niggas banned on Fresh of Fit.
You guys know I don't ban any of you guys on Myron Gainz Act, so I'll just tell Mo.
Got it.
Let's talk about it.
You did actually, I'm surprised.
You did actually show my findings on the UN committee report that came out.
The one that you misrepresent continually report.
Wait, what did I misrepresent about the UN?
Just all spam, dude.
I just told Mo to unban all of you guys on Rumble.
So to unban all you guys on Rumble.
So just like, don't be retards, I guess.
Because remember, guys, like, I allow free speech on my shit.
I'll let you guys yap and say the dumb shit that you do as long as you don't like fucking spam.
But on you, on Fresh Afraid, they might be a bit more, the mods are a bit more militant.
You tell me, tell me what it said.
The UN preliminary report was not an investigative report.
Like, for example, the investigative report that came out about Israel's systematized sexual assaults that was 49 pages long.
Horrible.
What a horrible thing that was.
Yeah, ironically.
Absolutely.
It's unacceptable.
The level of evidence in a preliminary report is only enough to actually create an actual investigation.
The problem is Israel has denied an actual investigation.
There you go.
Thank you, Hassan.
Now attack him with the facts.
Here we go.
This is what I'm talking about.
This preliminary report basically showed that it was the way that the bodies were left that made them think that there was potential mass rapes, but they don't actually have proof of it, and Israel won't let them investigate.
Yes, hit them with the facts.
This is what you need to stick to, Hassan.
Do not fucking sit here and virtual signal on, like, oh, yeah, bro, uh, inbred, uh, racism.
Uh, who gives a who cares?
Believe all women, who cares?
Let's go with the facts.
Creation to take place.
Israel has told the United Nations that they are not allowed to do an actual investigation because they know that they're lying.
The fucking losers, just so you guys know, that were responsible for pushing this mass rape lie.
You know who they were?
They were a bunch of aid workers that were getting paid and running a bunch of scam donation websites and fundraisers that to keep themselves afloat.
So they purposely put the bodies in certain positions when they arrived on scene to make it look like they potentially were grape.
So when the UN wanted to come in and do these investigations, they wouldn't fucking let them because they knew that they weren't actually being graped.
You think that these Hamas fighters had time to sit there?
Ah, you know what?
Let me go ahead and grape this chick.
I got some time.
No, nigga, they were getting attacked by the Apache helicopters.
That's a get the house to get the fuck out of there.
They didn't have time to fucking do this graping like they're claiming.
Get the fuck out of here, bro.
And to simply listen to what they have to say.
Now, not only is once again, no cap in my wraps.
I will show you guys what I mean by this.
Hold on.
Israel.
There are literally women who said that.
We feel like the Israeli government lies.
Do you mean all governments lie?
I'm not going to defend Israel.
There's women on the hill.
I was raped.
What?
There are women on the record on video saying I was raped.
You're saying there are multiple women that are on the record saying I was raped.
Correct.
There is.
As far as I understand, well, you can instance in court as you understand.
What?
Well, of course, that's as far as you can conclude because you don't give a fuck about the truth.
You just want to do propaganda.
Please calm down.
Okay.
Getting worked up.
I don't know why you're behaving in such a childish manner when we are actually talking about finally some serious stuff.
Okay.
Well, you know.
Okay.
Okay.
In terms of the UN preliminary report and the findings, okay, there is a clear-cut lack of evidence for any forensic examination to take place due to the incompetence of the Israeli government and specifically the organization Zaka that spent most of its time in the immediate thank you.
Okay, now you're getting somewhere, Hassan.
You have to master.
Stick to the facts, bro.
God damn.
Park number seven, taking bodies out of body bags and putting them into Zaka-branded body bags.
This was reported by Haaretz as well.
They polluted the evidence pool.
Okay.
And they left the bodies in certain positions to insinuate potential rape.
That's number one.
Number two, numerous people that came out and offered eyewitness testimony have since then been discredited, also, according to Haaretz reporting.
Which article?
I don't.
I mean, that's the Haaretz article.
Victims of sexual assault of lying about it.
Go ahead and link me that one.
And by the way, while you look for that.
No, no, no, not victims of sexual assault, Ethan.
I'm using my words very carefully.
Right.
Not sexual assault.
Not victims of sexual assault.
Eyewitness testimony initially provided that led people to believe that there were sexual assaults that were taking place.
Show me the source.
Were then discredited.
Show me the source.
By the way, Hassan, while you look for that, I'm assuming that you're quoting the UN Representative Secretary General on Sexual Violence and Conflicts report, right?
This is what everyone refers to.
Now, are you?
Okay, yeah.
I got you guys right now.
Now, this is Atrocity Inc.
from Max Blumenthal, who's a Jew, by the way, made this documentary to show a lot of the lies that were told about October 7th.
Let's see what he has to say here on this documentary.
And before many of these came from one particular individual, Yossi Landau, a religious fanatic from a self-described rescue organization known as Zaka.
Of this 14-15-year-old, I had trapped off.
We were looking around for the head, couldn't find it.
Despite lacking any forensic credentials or paramedic training, Zaka volunteers were typically the first on the scene and therefore able to make the most outlandish claims.
Yossi Landau himself said that he never actually saw any atrocities take place, but that he used his imagination to tell the stories of the body.
Hmm, doesn't this sound familiar to the cookie monster event?
Is he found?
When we go into the house and we're using our imagination.
And what an imagination he has.
I would say about 280 bodies to 280 casualties.
I would say 80% was tortured.
Two piles of 10 children each were tied to the back, burned to death.
And when we go into the house and we see on one side of the dining room, it was parents, father and mother, hands tied to the back, and the other side of the room against.
You guys know why I'm showing you this?
I'm showing you this so you guys can see it from the fucking horse's mouth.
This is from the first responders to October 7th.
Look at what they're saying to the press.
This was all used to create the justification needed to conduct the asymmetrical warfare that you guys can see going on in Gaza right now.
And all this shit was debunked later on.
But look, let you guys listen to it yourselves.
There was two children, a girl and a boy, the same position, they were tortured.
Main thing, and I wouldn't call them animals, to open up to all the food that was prepared for the holiday and these terrorists sitting and eating while torturing the father and the kids, their parents and the kids, they should see each other how they were being tortured.
How evil could that be?
Landau's lies were promptly amplified by Israeli officials.
Took dozens of children, bound them up, burned them, and executed them.
They beheaded soldiers.
Their American counterparts, including Secretary Antony Blinken, were equally obliging.
A family of four, a young boy and girl, six and eight years old, and their parents around the breakfast table.
The father, his eye gouged out in front of his kids.
The mother's breast cut off.
The girl's foot amputated.
The boy's fingers cut off before they were executed.
And then their executioners sat down and had a meal.
There was just one problem for Landau and those who amplified his questionable claims.
No bodies found in Kibbutz Beri matched the descriptions he made.
Official Israeli data exposes lies about murder of babies by Hamas.
The story of the beheaded babies was also implausible according to official Israeli government data, which confirmed that only one baby, 11-month-old Mila Cohen, was killed on...
who I told you guys about Mila Cohen, rest in peace to her, was the only baby that was killed.
I talked about this in my podcast where I went over the evidence with Suleiman and we did a five-hour deep dive and we debunked all of these fucking lies.
But I'm glad that you guys can hear it because the first responders that were there, Zakat and these other organizations, by the way, lied.
They lied.
They told telltales to justify what Netanyahu would later use to rationalize the fucking destruction of Gaza.
On October 7th, just one, and she was tragically shot by accident through a door, not decapitated.
And I wonder how she was shot through a door.
Well, we know that the Hannibal director was activated this day.
This guy, Yossi Landau, was one of the biggest misinformation propaganda spreaders that led to the lies of October 7th.
Landau also claimed to possess photos of a fetus that...
And you guys are going to see why he lied here in a second.
Moss had cut from a pregnant woman's body.
When you go in and you see a lady face down, we turn her around.
She was pregnant.
Woman.
The stomach is butchered up and a knife is still stacked in that baby.
The unborn baby.
Yet the images never materialized, even after the media requested them.
One fact Landau...
And not only did they not ever show proof of this, they released a 40-minute propaganda video that doesn't show any of the stuff that they claimed actually happened.
So the GoPros that the Hamas fighters wore when they did all this, they made a compilation of some of the most egregious stuff.
And none of this bullshit that they're talking about of gutting a woman and killing the baby in it and beheading the babies and the babies in the ovens...
None of that stuff was shown in the 40-minute propaganda video.
Did prove, however, was that the business of fabricating atrocity porn is extremely lucrative.
Before October 7th, his Zaka organization was nearly broke.
But in the aftermath of the propaganda bonanza they fueled, they raked in over 13 million dollars in donations and just a shawl.
Chat, you guys see now what the fuck I'm talking about?
I don't cap in my raps.
When I tell you guys that almost everything about October 7th was a fucking lie, it was.
You guys heard it from him himself.
Short amount of $13 million.
Time.
The Israeli paper Haaretz reported that Zaka volunteers were the only person that killed the baby was fucking dumbass Chinese chick Daisy.
She's the only one that killed that baby.
We're so desperate to cash in on October 7th that they actually rearranged corpses discovered in the kibbutzim, literally playing with dead bodies.
They rearranged the fucking bodies, chat.
In order to exaggerate the sense of horror before sending the images to potential donors, one of Zaka's competitor organizations, United Hatzalah, was eager to cash in as well.
It sent its director, Ellie Beer, to a Republican Jewish coalition fundraiser.
There, Beer rattled off a slew of lies that Yossi Landau would have been proud to have concocted.
I saw in my own.
So now we have two organizations that are financially driven to get a bunch of money to their organizations.
What are they going to do?
They're going to tell the tall tales that they need to tell, just like the Kavukin cookie monster event.
See the trend here, guys, where lies are used to justify force?
Nice woman who is and make a bunch of money in the victim economy.
Pregnant, four months pregnant.
They came into her house in front of her kids, opened up her stomach, took out the baby, and stabbed a little tiny baby in front of her and then shot her in front of her family.
And then they killed the rest of the kids.
I saw little kids who are beheaded.
We didn't know which head belongs to which kids.
We saw a little baby in an oven.
They put him.
Here we go.
Babies in the oven narrative.
These bastards put these babies in the oven and put on the oven.
We found the kid a few hours later.
The story of a baby baked.
What's worse, guys?
Like, bro, is lying to make as much money as he can at this fundraiser.
Look, it's literally called Rich Q. Org.
Republican Jewish Coalition.
He's here to get a bunch of money to donate to his cause.
In an oven.
Lying about children being killed.
Clearly contrived to evoke the horrors of the Holocaust.
Was immediately catapulted into the mainstream pro-Israel press.
They baked their baby in the oven and kept and Fox News obviously reports this immediately after.
Who owns Fox News?
Hmm, I wonder who.
Let's do a quick little thing here.
Who owns Fox News?
Let's see here.
Oh, shit.
Subsidiary, the Murdoch family.
Okay, interesting.
Murdoch family.
Okay, boom.
Okay.
Murdoch.
Actually, you click here, Fox Corporation.
Rupert Murdoch.
Bam.
Here he is.
This guy, hardcore Zionist, donates to the West Bank, chat.
Okay.
Personal friends with Benjamin Nanyahu.
Nanyahu stays at his house whenever he visits.
Chat.
His son, Rupert Murdoch's son.
Let's see.
Who's his son?
This guy right here.
Let me find him because he's the current head.
Lashland Murdoch.
This guy had a private meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu.
Don't believe me?
Look at this.
This is how close they are.
Media tycoon Lashland Murdoch, and this comes from the Times of Israel, so you guys know it's not fucking cap.
Media tycoon Lashland Murdoch heads to Israel for secret meeting with Netanyahu.
Do you guys see now why the media puts out certain narratives?
Because look, Fox News puts this out: anti-Semitic mobs hunt down Jews in Russian airport, blah, blah, blah, right?
But then you see who owns Fox, and it all makes fucking sense.
And this is the problem with people like Hassan.
Out of fear of being called an anti-Semite, he doesn't like making these connections that I'm making for you guys right now.
But I'll do it.
It's okay.
They call me an anti-Semite all they want.
I'm telling you guys the fucking truth.
A woman alive so that she could hear the screams of her child melting.
Little children that were put in the oven.
Attacks that saw a C-SPAN, MSNBC, all of them regurgitating the same fucking lies, man.
Baby, put in an oven and baked alive.
And even though this lie was also quickly debunked, it contributed to the narrative that Israel was confronting quote-unquote human animals, as its defense minister Yoav Galant put it.
and it therefore had the right to do anything, absolutely anything, to prevent another October 7th.
We are killing the whole country of the Azar.
There is no fish, no mason, no wood, no wood.
Everything is clean.
Look, there's no denying that atrocities took place when Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th.
But Israel wasn't content to capitalize on the atrocities that had been clearly documented on camera.
They just weren't sufficient to give Tel Aviv the political latitude it needed to mount a full-scale ethnic cleansing campaign.
Netanyahu himself outlined the cynical logic directly when he addressed Zaka volunteers and told them that their mission was to grant him the maneuvering room he needed to totally destroy Gaza.
So the image of Hamas as a band of psychotic.
That's what they needed, chat.
Now you guys see.
Now you're aware how these kind of papers work.
They do a very precise conclusion at the end that summarizes the main thesis and points driven home in the article.
That's what the conclusion is.
Let me read it for you.
Overall, based on the totality of information gathered from multiple and independent sources at different locations, there are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred at several locations across the Gaza periphery, including in the form of rape, gang rape during the October 7th, 2023 attack.
Credible circumstantial information, which may be indicative of some forms of sexual violence, including genital mutilation, sexualized torture, cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment.
Just so you guys know, there's six main organizations, and five of them are owned by Jewish Zionists, and a sixth is owned by the Murdoch, who you guys already know are Zionists.
Fox, Paramount, Sony, Comcast, Walt Disney Group, and Paramount are pretty much, or no, sorry, Sony, Paramount, Fox, Comcast.
I can't read that last one.
And Walt Disney Company.
Yeah, dude.
All owned by the six companies.
Five of the six are Jewish, and then this last one is a Zionist, the Murdoch family, which I showed you guys before.
Like I told you guys before, there's a reason why they don't show you the kids getting blown up and killed in American media because we know who owns American media.
That's not anti-Semitic to say the truth.
It's the truth.
Was also gathered.
Okay, perfect.
Thank you.
So I'm going to, I'm going to watch.
Are they hallucinating?
No.
So do you know?
You just don't know what words mean.
So credible circumstantial evidence.
Do you know what that means?
It means that there's, yeah, of course.
Credible circumstantial evidence is not a substitute for forensic evidence.
That's why I said Pixar didn't happen.
Yeah.
Yeah, we do need rape kits because if you're going to go ahead and make egregious claims like that and use it to justify the asymmetric warfare going on, yeah, you're damn right.
You need fucking proof, dumbass.
It's not enough.
Pixar didn't happen, right?
Prosecute.
Yep.
Rape kits or it didn't happen, bro.
Rape.
Absolutely.
We need proof.
Which is precisely the reason why the Israeli prosecutors themselves have said that in the absence of a singular victim coming out and also with all of the forensic evidence that has been tarnished already.
Show me evidence for anything you're saying.
Well, it's not.
It's okay.
I showed you guys the evidence already.
Show me evidence for anything you're claiming that isn't some unhinged freak on Twitter.
Believe all women, hey?
Are we believing all women?
No, we're not believing all women, actually.
And that is why, again, see how I mean Hassan is handicapped here in his debate because he can't even fucking refute the point that women lie and we're not going to believe all women.
See, he's debating from a position of weakness.
I would say, yeah, I don't believe any women.
I believe facts.
Stupid fuck.
You liberal fucking retard.
Hassan and Ethan, both of them are liberal retards.
He can't even sit here and say, yeah, no, I don't believe all women.
I believe evidence and proof and facts.
Right after the October 7th Hamas attack in Israel, Zaka, the disaster victim identification volunteers, were among the first civilians responding on the scene.
Zaka is an Israeli rescue and recovery organization, primarily staffed by ultra-Orthodox Jewish volunteers, known for their work in collecting human remains for proper burial according to Jewish law.
I think what yeah, and they also lie and garnered $13 million from the lies.
Won't talk about that, though, will you?
What happened is a lot of what happened is that obviously you don't rape someone and then people who are murdered.
And a lot of the forensic evidence.
This is from May 22nd, 2022.
This is about the witness testimony that was discredited.
Okay.
So even if one account was discredited, there's many.
No, it's not one account.
Two accounts, but the rest of the world.
There's way more than two accounts.
Is this on you what you're doing?
You're like, this girl lied about being raped.
Therefore, all these women need to be questioned.
That's actually what you're doing.
You think Pixar didn't happen?
I don't believe it.
Can you point me to actual, like, to victims that came out?
Yes.
Because, yes.
As far as I understand, Israeli police have asked victims and witnesses to testify about Hamas and sexual violence in the aftermath of October 7th.
And it seems like their investigations were inconclusive because by the admission of the Israeli police, they openly said that there were no victims that came out.
Yeah, let me guess.
You read it on Haaretz.
You don't.
Wait.
Do you know what I mean?
No, ours is not a credible.
No, it is journalism at this point.
No, but you guys lean on that.
You just lie about what it says because it sounds credible.
Who is you guys?
You and all of your fucking dumbass cohorts that do the same typical rhetorical tools to just say whatever the fuck you want without ever having to back it up or knowing what you're talking about in the least bit.
So show me the evidence.
Haaretz.
I sent narratives.
And also, here is the Israeli prosecutor Mauren Goods has acknowledged that 15 months after the events of October 7, 2023, Israel has still not identified any victims in which a case can be brought against an alleged perpetrator of a sexual attack.
They're all dead.
The admission is in line with a complete lack of any credible evidence regarding incidents.
Even if they're dead, there should be proof that rapes occurred, but there's none, Ethan, you fucking dumbass.
Sexual violence, which is particularly notable when these claimed.
I don't know what this is.
I don't know what this foundation is, but there is news reporting on this.
I don't know why.
Someone being dead does not mean that you can't investigate and figure out if they were graped or not.
Okay, that's that's what an autopsy is for, dumbass.
But there isn't clearly, there's not evidence of it.
Because trust me, if there was evidence of the grapes, the Israeli government would have released it, but they don't and don't let the UN do their own independent investigation because they know that if the UN came in and did their own independent investigation, they would prove the fact that there actually were no mass grapes.
And if they proved that there were no mass grapes, the Israeli narrative for why they're justifying this ridiculous war and decimation of innocent people would be destroyed alongside it.
So they will not allow them to do an independent investigation and they will not actually release information if it was there.
Trust me, if the grapes were real, the Israeli government would have actually put out the hard evidence to prove it, but they don't because these aid workers, who are not government officials, by the way, that are private companies that have an incentive to lie and make a bunch of money in doing so, 13 million to be exact, position the bodies in certain ways to make it look like they were graped.
But we don't have the actual real evidence.
We don't have sperm.
We don't have forced penetration.
We don't have any of this stuff that could have been done to prove that they were actually graped.
they don't want you guys to know that because they need that narrative to substantiate their overaggression on the Gaza Strip.
All dead, bro.
What is your point?
What you said doesn't change anything.
There's no proof, Ethan.
You're retarded.
You're talking about.
Do you think that they raped people that didn't kill them?
You said that there are victims.
Can you give me the names of the victims?
First of all, I am not in the business of denying rape.
If there are, if there are, if there are victims that have come forward in this process, as I've said, there was an instance of sexual assault that took place in captivity, and it was not the systematized rape that was directed by Hamas as the New York Times is erroneous reporting that did not meet its own standard, its own editorial standard, as a matter of fact, written by a person who literally was taken off the editorial board, taken off the actual paper for some of her insane tweets about Gaza.
None of these, like, there's a lot of stories surrounding this, but I'm not in the business of fucking denying rape.
So if you have credible evidence, please present it.
And I will admit that I'm wrong.
Give me the names.
Yeah, yeah.
There's a video.
Hold on.
Is the video from Screams Without Violence?
Cheryl Sandberg.
Oh, yeah.
She's credible.
One of the women that led the feminist revolution and tells young women to be whores in their youth and then go ahead and find a bad boy at the end.
Yeah, she's credible, dude.
Is that where you're going to present?
No, it's not from that.
Cheryl Sandberg, hardcore Zionist.
There's one recently of a woman testifying.
I think it was either in the UN or to Congress.
She's sitting on a bench.
She's talking to a mic and she's speaking in English.
Pull the clip up for us then, Ethan.
Yeah, we'll get there.
But like, yeah, I mean, what's your show?
What's your problem with Cheryl Sandberg's documentary?
Cheryl Sandberg has also been accused of sexual harassment herself, but outside of that.
What the fuck does that have to do with her in her documentary?
Her documentary is basically the unsubstantiated claims that you guys want to know?
I played a clip from her documentary when she interviewed this bitch that said that I was raped with my with his eyes.
That woman?
Yeah.
Some of which were directly.
Yeah, that's the interview that we just watched, by the way, chat.
Directly found to be incorrect.
But not only is it unsubstantiated claims, it's just a recycling of the same screams without violence.
The screams without or sorry, screams without words article the New York Times wrote that didn't even meet its own editorial standard.
Okay?
We're having this conversation.
You seemingly act like you care about sexual violence taking place against Israelis.
Meanwhile, one of the hostages that actually was returned in the early stages did get raped by an Israeli fitness instructor.
You know, I have not seen you talk about that.
I have not seen you.
Oh, shit.
Israel had a January 6th style.
Israel had a January 6th style pro-rape riot where a bunch of rabid right-wing.
I think he's going to talk about the prisoner that I told you guys about.
I'm not defending.
The prosecutor's office and forcibly, with guns, took out six concentration camp prison guards from the Siday Taman facility that had actually raped numerous Palestinians on camera.
Are you done?
Grandstanding?
Here's a big one that they raped two.
Are you done?
Here's a victim you asked for.
That is true.
All right, here we go.
This is from.
I think there was an even more recent one than this, but oh, where's the audio?
Fuck.
Hold on, let me unmute.
Unable to move and had to ask for permission to use the bathroom.
In that house, I was sexually assaulted by the Hamas terrorist who had guarded me.
He forced me to go to the shower and entered the room, pointed his gun at me.
He was breathing heavily and had a monstrous beast-like face.
Immatitiously planned his assault, scheming and waiting for the moment to have his way.
He kept asking me private sexual questions while sitting next to me in his underwear, lifting my shirt, touching me, and constantly asking me when my period would be.
Sorry, just to butt in here.
Are she lying yet or no?
Is she lying or hallucinating?
Ethan, have I ever said that rapes did not take place?
At least according to one credible person, I don't believe her.
I'll be honest with y'all, man.
She can literally get paid by the Israeli government to fucking lie about this shit.
We already saw them lie about everything else.
And guess what?
That's their fault by not being a credible government and pushing a bunch of fucking lies or propaganda.
Personal testimony in captivity, not on October 7, but in captivity?
Um, kind of, yeah.
Because the first person that they released didn't give enough when she said, Oh, he graped me with my eyes, made herself look stupid.
So obviously, this girl, hey, we need you to go in there and say that you were assaulted.
You're doing it right now.
What do you mean?
I knew exactly what he was planning to do.
You literally couldn't do anything to prevent it.
Pause it for a second.
No, listen to what she has to say, Hassan.
Hey, what's up?
Don't silence her.
Let her fucking talk.
No, because you're acting like this never happened, that it's exaggerated.
That everybody's lying.
The Israelis are just inheriting the evil monsters that are responsible for everything bad that's ever happened.
You listen to her.
You listen to her words.
I had no one to comfort me and was forced to act nice.
Listen to the person who was aware of her.
Listen to this victim.
Show her some respect, horrifying wave.
Oh, it's so gross.
That a day goes by that.
I don't think about what that terrible man did.
It is.
You're having sexuality.
Show respect, brother.
That is fucking rigid.
No person should ever be subject to the person.
Damn, this is a fucking plug on this.
Holy shit.
You really have no problem speaking over a rape victim when they're Israeli.
Dude, you don't give a fuck about rape.
What are you doing?
Look at you.
Look what you're doing.
I never said that no one ever got sexually assaulted in person.
Male Speaker: First male race.
Go ahead.
Survivor of Hamas on October 7th.
I literally said in the video, a man who was stripped naked and raped by Hamas on October 7th has refused for the first time.
He was spat on and humiliated as his murderous rapist left.
The victim only identified as initial D, he was the first man to speak about the sexual assault he and other experience when Hamas.
Sorry, guys, the camera's overheating.
I don't know why the fuck this keeps happening.
Elite, the Nakba unit massacred, kidnapped, and raped innocent people.
You join the Supernova Music Festival.
They pin you down to the ground.
You try to resist.
They take off your clothes, laugh at you, humiliate you, spit on you.
Said the victim.
Hold on.
Okay, listen to me.
Listen to my words.
Touch my private parts today.
You're not going through this in a dignified way, and I think it's very gross.
What you're doing here is simply weaponizing as a fucking prop, a victim that I also acknowledged.
Silence.
And you know, you posted it in your video.
Here it is.
Here's a clip.
Reveals that sexual assault and rape was a regular component of the life as a hostage in Gaza.
It doesn't matter if fucking rapes happen on October 7.
Hassan, maybe you would like to call her a liar.
Please go right ahead.
No worries, I will.
I think they're fucking lying.
And I think that they had a strong incentive to lie because guess what?
They're killing hundreds of thousands of people and they need to substantiate that.
So I need some fucking proof.
Yeah, you're damn right.
I need some fucking proof.
I mean, this is on October 7.
There are dozens of testimonies from witnesses.
Most of them.
Because we've already seen that the Israeli government has no problem with fucking lying and pushing out certain narratives to push an agenda.
So guess what?
When that first woman got released and said they graped me with my eyes, that wasn't enough and created a bunch of embarrassment for the Israeli government.
So guess what they had to do?
They had to go ahead.
Hey, all you motherfuckers that get released from Hamas, we need you guys to go ahead and say that you were raped.
That's what I think fucking happened.
I don't trust the Israeli government for a fucking inch.
And it's pathetic that Hassan won't fucking just say, no, I don't believe him.
Straight up.
I don't fucking believe him.
Okay, they've already been shown to lie.
Look at how they've lied egregiously on this other shit.
Dozens of died.
Or by deception.
This is what the Israelis do.
They fucking lie, man, all the time.
They always lie.
Okay, you had a bunch of these idiots in here coming in saying, yeah, look, beheaded babies.
I saw they were torturing the kids in front of the parents.
All fucking lies.
You're going to believe these fucking idiots when I know the government probably paid them to get on these big interviews and say that they were raped while they were sitting there in Hamas captivity.
Get the fuck out of here, dude.
Oh, yeah.
Ethan, are you denying that?
In the beginning, I'm gonna use my words very carefully here.
There's more stories coming out.
In the beginning, on October 7th, there were numerous He's too scared to question it.
He's too scared.
And this is the weakness here.
This is the weakness.
It's simple.
The Israeli government has lied about everything else.
Why the fuck should I believe these victims after they've been coached to go on these pro-Israeli television programs to paint a certain narrative?
Israel's getting destroyed from a media perspective optically.
So they need all the help that they can get.
You don't think that they would tell the hostages after they were captive to go on these news media sites and lie when they've already been doing it?
Come on, man.
Victims of sexual violence.
And guess who they have to blame for this?
The Israeli government themselves, we can blame them because they've already been lying about everything else.
So guess what?
I don't believe these fucking hostages.
And I got the boss to fucking say that.
I don't believe them because everybody else has been fucking lying on this shit already.
That you said, you said, not me, you said that there were numerous victims of sexual violence that actually came forward.
So I asked you for names of the numerous victims of sexual violence on October 7th.
Because if the Israelis didn't lie from the beginning to manufacture this outrage so they can use it to conduct this asymmetrical warfare, then I would be more open to listening to some of this stuff.
But the fact that hostages that have come out after the fact are all having this weird story now of them being assaulted, I don't know, dude.
I don't believe the Israeli government.
Wait, you're saying that report?
I looked at that same UN report and said that there was valid, credible, first-hand account, first-hand testimony on sexual assault.
I wish you had the energy you have.
It was not on October 3rd.
The Israelis raping people as...
I wish you had the same energy for the...
Because there's documented proof when the Israelis rape, Ethan...
There's literally video of it.
And then you have protesters that literally say, we have the right to rape Palestinians.
We have documented proof of Israeli rape.
We don't have documented proof of Hamas rape.
That is the big difference.
You fucking moron, okay?
And the Israeli government lies, as I've shown through the clip that I showed you guys, where these people from these organizations, which are civilian organizations, privately owned, looking for money, for-profit businesses, okay?
They have an incentive to lie to the tune of $13 million.
I know it sucks, and it might be crass or rude to say this, but the reality is simply this.
We have proof that the IDF and the Israelis rape Palestinians.
However, we don't have documented hard proof that the Hamas guys are raping Israelis.
We don't have it.
We have testimony from hostages that were released that have a strong incentive to lie and go on these programs that are heavily edited and they're potentially coached before they go on.
So yes, Ethan, it is okay to question things.
All right?
Fucking Palestinian terrorists raping people.
I wish you had the same name.
I can't invent rapes.
You have not given me any names.
What I'm showing you people and names.
Yeah, people that don't have tangible proof that they were assaulted.
Sorry, that's the reality.
We don't have proof, but we do have proof for the other stuff on video.
What do you mean?
What's with my people?
There is definitive proof that Israelis rape, but there is not definitive proof that Hamas rapes.
Sorry, dude.
We don't have it.
At least for the purposes of October 7th.
I don't understand.
If there are victims, you say, you know what?
This is not going anywhere.
Let's just move on.
What do you mean?
You can't just win.
This is a major, major point of contention.
You have to see me as a rape denier.
This is what Ethan does when he knows he can't win the argument.
I'm tired of this.
It's not entertaining anymore.
Let's move to something else.
You yourself.
Because he knows he lies.
He knows in this topic he's actually getting beat because he doesn't have proof.
Hassan is weakening his position by saying, well, I don't know.
No.
Just simply say, dude, I need proof.
I don't have proof.
Yeah, picture didn't happen, Ethan, bitch.
The one evidence you deny mass rapes happened.
And you're doing it right now.
The instance of sexual assault.
I just showed you two.
We know of up until this.
And I both agree on testimony from women that have a strong incentive to lie about them being assaulted by Hamas on interviews on Israeli media.
That doesn't count, dude.
You know that I agree with that.
You know that I've talked about it.
That's not hard proof compared to the hard proof we have of the Israelis actually doing it.
You know, not that rapes happened.
What?
Do you deny that mass rapes happen?
Not that rapes happen.
There is no definitive proof of the mass rapes that you're claiming.
That is what's going on.
Ben, listen to my words.
Yes, I do.
Okay, good now.
There you go.
Because there is no proof.
There is no evidence.
And I just showed you two.
The clips that you used, ironically, it's out of context is because at that point, at that point, I personally took a position where I said very carefully and very deliberately that mass rapes that are directed by Hamas did not happen.
There was no evidence for this whatsoever.
Four survivors told authorities they were sexually assaulted on October 7th.
Report.
First-hand account of such crimes have been rare.
Has most been done.
Hassan report follows earlier testimony from a man who said he was raped by terrorists at the Nova Festival.
Four people have told authorities that they were sexually assaulted by terrorists on October 7th.
Channel 12 reports on Thursday, adding to a growing body of evidence of the systemic sexual assault committed by Hamas.
Unlike most of the previous evidence of sexual assault on October 7th, which was largely based on eyewitness testimony, the Channel 12 report is notable because it is based on first-hand accounts of victims.
Yawn all you want.
First-hand testimony such crimes has been rare.
Yeah, yeah, the same first-hand witnesses that also said that they saw babies beheaded, babies in ovens, the same first-hand witnesses that also told you that kids were being tortured in front of their families, babies dead everywhere.
Yeah, those same first-hand fucking accounts, right?
The victims have been killed.
Killed.
Dip shit.
Okay, Ethan did not.
They fucking killed them.
Three reports.
Four individuals approached the welfare minister when they're testing.
There's no way to actually examine talk about being gross.
Listen to these things.
Someone is murdered.
There's no way to do forensic evidence.
You know the fucking answer to that.
Because that Jews, you know that the religious organization that is first responders that you cited has a policy of burying the bodies to avoid disgracing them.
That is you just said dozens of victims came out.
Yeah, and they also altered and moved the bodies to manufacture more outrage.
You forgot that part, Ethan Klein.
I'm really not what we're doing, bro.
I'm showing you the evidence that you're wrong right now.
According to the report, four individuals approached the welfare ministry with their accounts of what happened to them during the Hamas onslaught, which saw blah, blah, blah.
Sorry, not blah, blah, blah.
But 200 people killed and 250 kidnapped.
The report followed a separate channel 12 story on Wednesday.
They provided first-hand testimony from a man who said he was raped by terrorists at the supernova, where hundreds of people were killed.
Are these all lying?
These are five people here.
There's three that approached the ministry and the one man who said he was raped.
Are these all liars?
I don't know.
I don't think they are.
I have no idea.
We don't have proof of it, though.
We don't have proof of it, dude.
everything that i've seen from everything that i've read on this and i have read extensively on this uh as far as forensic examination has been concluded there is no evidence no hard evidence of sexual assault and i will give you zero hard evidence just read from a haritz article i just read your first-hand testimony of four people what are you doing you're saying that you're not believing the victims ethan you're asking for pics or it didn't happen it's not that i'm not believing you said where's their body um
yeah pics or it didn't happen because you're making very because here's the thing ethan right what ethan doesn't understand is that these mass grapes right that they're uh alleging are used as um talking points by the israeli government to substantiate their indiscriminate bombing all over gaza so the reason why it needs to be held to high scrutiny and why we need real tangible evidence is because it is being uh used okay it is being used as a
propping tool and substantiation for their undue aggression in gaza so yes asshole there's a reason why we need real hard evidence of proof in this situation and not just witness testimony when we've seen that the israeli government already lies So, yes, Ethan, it is not enough to just have the witnesses say, I was great and assaulted when there's an enormous amount of pressure for them to lie to substantiate what the fuck the Israeli government is going on right now.
So, yes, we are going to scrutinize their testimony far more than other people because their testimony is being used to substantiate a fucking genocide.
You retard.
And this is incredible that he doesn't understand this.
We need hard evidence, dude.
Yeah.
And Hassan is too much of a bitch to say this.
Pixar didn't happen.
You have mentioned.
Yeah, Pixar didn't happen because you're killing innocent fucking kids every day.
So you're damn right.
I need a picture didn't happen, asshole.
You're damn fucking right.
Picks or it didn't happen, Ethan.
There you go.
Since you're saying Pix didn't happen.
Okay, right.
Since the article that you mentioned came out, the fucking guy that claimed that he got assaulted, the women that are claiming they're getting assaulted, Pixar, it didn't fucking happen.
This isn't a gender-exclusive questioning here.
This isn't a gender-exclusive skepticism.
This is skepticism on the part of Israel has been shown to lie.
So therefore, I am skeptical of everything that they say to substantiate their fucking genocide that they're going on right now.
That is why I'm skeptical of everything they fucking say, as everyone else is as well.
And the fact that they can't provide forensic evidence or hard evidence for these grapes, as they claim, proves my point.
The article you mentioned came out.
There have been further prosecutions on this.
Why have they not led to any real prosecution?
They're dead.
They're fucking dead, you moron.
What do you mean?
First-hand testimony in this regard.
You told every all the fucking Hamasa operatives in Israel.
I killed them?
What?
What are you?
Are you kidding me?
Why are you saying you killed them?
I said they.
Why the fuck would I say you killed them?
That's insanely stupid.
Are you okay?
Hallucinating.
Are you crashing on?
Go ahead, maybe.
Maybe I misheard you.
I'm pretty sure you said you.
No, Ethan is crashing out.
You killed them.
Sometimes when you're under stress, you can mishear things, but that's okay.
I understand.
Guys, let me fucking give me one sec, guys.
Guys, turn AC up.
camera keeps starting on.
I might be...
I'm sorry, guys.
I just turned AC up.
Hopefully, my camera says fucking turning off.
And my mistake.
I have you on much lower volume because my volume is very low.
Fair enough.
That's part of the reason why I do ask over and over again what you're saying.
That's fine.
I understand.
I want people to hear what we're saying.
So that's totally fair.
If you're seeing, are you done or you want to be?
You just clip it and send it to me, chat.
It's that simple.
Okay.
And you probably said it by mistake, even if you did.
So it doesn't matter.
Okay, we're done with this one.
Okay.
No, we're not done with this at all.
Go ahead.
I just read four persons.
The question I have for you.
The question I have for you is very simple.
Okay.
Oh, if I said you, I missed it.
There is my bad.
By the way, I may have actually said you.
It's fine.
I don't care.
Let's move on.
Let's get back to the actual main point of contention here.
The liars.
Pixar did.
There have been no rape allegations filed in the October 7 attacks.
Not one.
Okay.
And this is from Wynette speaking to Moran Gatz, who I posted about earlier.
Moran Gatz is the Southern District Prosecutor's Office in Israel.
Okay.
She was a member of the Team 7110, responsible for cases involving captured Palestinians in connection with October 7th attacks on investigations related to sexual violence.
She says, in the end, we don't have any complainants.
What was presented in the media compared to what will eventually come together will be entirely different, either because the victims were murdered, okay?
This is what they're saying, or because women who were raped aren't willing to expose it.
She excludes here another explanation.
It says drop site news that no rapes occurred.
We approached women's rights organizations and asked for cooperation.
They told us that no one had approached them.
There were parents who reached out to organizations asking what to do if something happened to their daughter, but they didn't reveal the abuse.
So the question I have for you is this.
Okay.
The question I have for you is this.
What am I supposed to do in the situation when there are no victims that have come forward?
Four victims just a first-hand testimony I read.
But there's no forensic examination.
There has been no justice for these victims in the field on October 7 due to the fact that the government completely okay.
The government completely ruined any sort of forensic examination that could have taken place.
There is no way to actually bring justice to these victims.
Your assessment on this is so off-based.
You think for first-hand victims, I just read it to you.
Okay, but you're right.
Let's err on the side of these people.
You're totally right.
This is the progressive way.
Let's err on the side of these people lying instead of believing them.
Let's do that.
I'm not saying that they're lying.
I'm telling you.
My confusion on this comes from the fact that it's not confusing.
It's obvious most of the shit happened were killed and it's a religion came out.
It's a religious party responding unit that they bury the bodies immediately to avoid humiliating them.
It's all explainable.
What?
Yes.
If you don't know that, then you're fucking, you are like woefully misinformed, which just dude, what are you talking about?
What do you mean?
Like, it doesn't matter.
There has to be a forensic examination.
Pixar didn't happen.
They bury the body.
No, no, Pixar didn't happen.
You don't think that you don't care?
Yeah, see, this is why Hassan is going to look bad because you got to just make a definitive stance.
Yeah, Pixar didn't happen, Ethan.
There you fucking go, buddy.
Pixar didn't fucking happen.
I don't believe the Israeli government, and I know that they have a wild incentive to lie because they're losing the optics war.
So of course they're going to fucking do and say whatever they need to do because Israel, as well as many other governments, not just the U.S. Israeli government, but the Israeli government is the most guilty of this, is using deception to wage war.
It's literally the motto of the Mossad and has been for years.
Not anymore, because they obviously changed it.
But by deception, we create war.
This is what they do.
Do you think these victims deserve justice?
Why did Israel refuse an outside investigative committee?
How do you explain these four accusers?
Under normal circumstances, how do you explain these four accusers for a third party?
How do you explain these four?
They probably lied.
That's how I explain those accusers.
We need tangible proof.
Conduct an investigation.
How do you explain the four accusers?
I don't know.
And you're damn right.
I'm going to fucking scrutinize them because their testimony is being used to bomb fucking kids every day.
So you're damn right.
I'm going to fucking question them.
Oh, okay.
How do you explain the side of them lying?
My information is more relevant because it's new.
It's newer.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't know.
I can't.
I guess we're at impasse here.
I mean, him, not Hassan.
We're at an impasse.
We prove something that I don't know about when the prosecutor.
Do you think the Israeli Southern District Prosecutor actually did not examine the testimony given by these victims?
If you don't know what happened in the four accusers, why are you speaking so confidently?
Because I'm because we don't have proof about it.
That's why.
But you're a liar.
You're propagandistic.
You fucking hate Israelis.
Can we move on, please?
This is obviously at an impasse.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, my God.
I'm just trying to consider the audience.
I'm telling you, dude, this is you claimed falsely that I'll recognize the testimony of a sexual see.
This is this is where it comes.
Now, Hassan's got a fucking virtue signal and shit like, bro, I do care.
Oh, who cares?
Fuck that.
I don't believe the victims.
How about that one?
Give me tangible proof.
The Israeli government still hasn't done it.
That's all he's got to say.
But now he's got to sit here and go with the virtue signal because here's the problem.
Hassan is not just debating the facts.
He's also debating his morality.
That's why he's looking bad in this situation.
He's in captivity.
Yes.
This is why progressives are retards.
That was false.
Yep.
She lied.
It was false.
Etc.
No, no, no.
It's a falsehood that you claim.
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Claim that I don't recognize that.
Do you admit that?
Yes.
100%.
Wait, so you're admitting that you falsely smeared me as someone who is denying a verifiable evidence, a verifiable claim of rape from my first-hand account, and it's not from October 7th.
Okay, yes.
I'm smearing you.
Can we move on, please?
Okay.
Okay, very good.
All right.
Can you explain this tweet to me?
This is your tweet.
And that's what liberals do.
They smear you.
That's why you can't give a fuck what they say.
Like you do.
When it comes to morality and shit like that, because their morality is subjective to them, where they don't want to use certain words and belabel certain things.
You can't be afraid to be called, you know, these stupid ass terms that they use.
Summarize it for me.
Here it is.
You said, go ahead.
You can read it for me and explain the picture.
I can't.
I don't know where it is.
So you can't see it.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Fantastic.
Okay, very good.
I guess what's the just a little delay for him, Dan?
No, no, I can see it.
Bro, really said my lived experience in Israel proper.
Great.
What's the picture?
This is Zone of Interest.
You're familiar, yes.
Explain for the audience what this picture entails.
This is Zone of Interest, which is an Oscar award-winning movie depicting the banality of evil during a literal holocaust taking place.
The monotony of the day-to-day existence, the beautiful garden.
And your implication is what Rudolph Huss and his family put together.
I'll be honest with you guys, I am not familiar with this movie, but let's see what happens.
And you're implicating the background.
You can see there was a concentration.
There's a concentration of Auschwitz.
Your implication is what?
Most likely inferred to be sending you a new one.
I'm responding to.
Hold on.
Like, it's completely based on my mind.
I actually don't know what it is, but I said, we know what it was.
I just said Israel proper, right?
I just, I said my lived experience in Israel proper.
Can you explain the clip?
Play the clip.
It's just, it's two minutes and I don't know where this happens.
If somebody can find out.
No, no, play the clip.
Play the full thing.
We have time.
I'm not going nowhere.
Let me see.
Yeah, I mean, I want to watch it too.
It's just.
I know you do.
Let's see.
I don't.
Here, I'll just play it.
Oh, this is a clip from the critically acclaimed content cop.
How's that working out?
You think Ian's happy he made that video?
I don't know.
I mean, I haven't talked to him about it.
I mean, he put out a really big video.
I mean, I would be stoked.
I don't know why you're asking me about what iDubbs is thinking.
That is so weird.
But I mean, I assume.
I mean, it performed pretty well.
I think it doubled your video.
So if anything, I think it just means that more people are interested than me than you.
Yeah, no, definitely.
I believe that for sure.
No, more people hate you than Hassan.
That's what it means.
Very good.
Dumb fuck.
I think a lot of people.
And iDubbs is also a huge YouTuber.
So, of course, his is going to get more views as well.
But yes.
A lot of people, some falsely.
And he revived something that he was actually known for that people liked him for, despite a lot of the backlash that he's been getting.
So yeah, he revived an old content creation strategy that made him famous in the first place.
So yeah, of course it's going to get more views and also you're hated.
So yeah.
And some for decent reasons.
Why?
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Do you want to look at the like ratio?
It's probably the reason why there's a lot of people watching this conversation as well.
Do you want to watch the do you want to watch the like ratio on this?
Damn.
The like ratio on this.
That's correct, my friend.
Here it is.
Wait, Ethan, play the video.
Yeah, you want to know why so many people don't like iDubbs?
Because iDubbbs stopped being bass and became a liberal fucktard like you guys.
That's why.
Okay.
This is why being a lib never works because you got to constantly police your tonality and your language and pussified conversations.
Like this conversation could have been done in probably an hour.
But since Hassan is constantly trying to defend himself and protect this flank because Ethan is trying to attack him from a morality standpoint instead of a fact standpoint, the conversation ends up being drawn out and Hassan looks extremely weak because he's not really able to stand a lot of things that he says for fear of coming off as politically incorrect, which is a big problem that progressives deal with whenever they debate.
And Ethan is just a bigger woke loser than Hassan is.
So therefore he's able to win this battle of who's more woke and who can virtue signal better.
Failure is a confirmation of your assessment of reality.
How is that pro-Zionist?
The Gaza Strip.
How is me criticizing Hamas pro-Zionist?
Would you like to find that?
Do you think a bomb shelter would actually survive bunker buster bombs?
It'd be a lot fucking safer than Gaza.
For Israel to actually systematically destroy everyone with Hamas spending the total shelter would be fucking crosshairs.
Can I please ask you a question?
Again, me criticizing Hamas makes me a Zionist.
You criticizing Hamas makes you a Zionist?
That's what you're claiming.
I mean, it depends on how, it depends on what you're saying.
Yeah, you know exactly what I said.
You can have criticisms of Hamas in terms of like their own internal domestic affairs, in terms of their governance.
But if that's your hyper- No, criticism of Hamas does not make you a Zionist.
However, you are using common Zionist talking points when criticizing Hamas and you are pro-Israel, which, yes, you are a Zionist, bro.
I don't know what the fuck that has to do with anything, but okay.
If you're focused, then yes, people are going to make that inference that you are definitely against any kind of resistance against the state of Israel because they don't make bomb changes because your expectation because they don't make bomb shots of Palestinians is to just simply sit there and take it so you can fucking act like you felt bad 10 years down the line.
Everything that you claim, the whole fucking apparatus of harassment that exists across social media with you at the center of it infringes on an inference that you maybe meant this.
I have never once said I'm Zionist.
The only reason people believe that is because you repeat it maliciously.
Because of your hyper-focused way and your deliberate deplatforming attempts towards pro-Palestinian content creators is ridiculous.
You mean Palestine doesn't tell you.
You recognize a genocide, but you also literally get mad at people who fight back.
You're a public enemy number one.
You call Hezbollah a terror group, which is, by the American state's definition, absolutely considered a terror group.
But there are plenty of terror groups that have against American imperialism.
Now he's getting, see, this is where he fucks up.
This is where Hassan fucks up because he doesn't want to acknowledge that Hezbollah is, by definition, a terrorist group, but it's not about fucking are they terrorists or not.
We need to talk about all the parties are terrorists.
Now, let's go ahead and talk about the use of force by each terrorist organization.
Because the idea of a terrorist organization, by definition, Hezbollah is a terrorist organization group by definition.
Hamas's, all of them.
Don't get into semantics of trying to fight and call them resistance fighters versus terrorists.
That's not a winning argument.
The argument needs to be on what are the facts that led each group to fighting for why they're fighting.
That's the conversation that needs to be had, Hassan.
This is where he fucks up every time.
Do you not consider colonial violence?
Do you not consider Hezbollah a terrorist group?
I think the definition of terrorism by the American State Department is intentionally vague to deny people their habeas corpus, deny people their due process.
It is there to justify whatever kind of militant action that the American government can take.
Oh my god, dude, such a bad position.
Habeas corpus is literally you having the right to get in front of a judge and the government explaining why they have you in captivity.
These are foreign terrorist organizations, Hassan.
You fucking retard.
Habeas corpus does not apply here.
What the fuck is going on, dude?
This is what I mean when I say he's losing this debate off of semantics for no fucking reason.
Don't engage him on Hezbollah being a terrorist organization.
They are.
By definition, they are.
We live in the United States.
We have to use the definition that the United States attributes.
I explained already why they're designated as terrorist organizations.
We went over who was the Department of State later, or the Secretary of State, back in 1996 when Amas was designated a woman that had Jewish parents.
Cool.
We could go ahead and go into the history about why they're designated terrorist organizations, whatever.
But the facts are the facts.
They're a terrorist organization.
No one gives a fuck about that.
We need to talk about the conflicts and why they're doing what they're doing and argue on facts.
Not necessarily, I don't think that they're a terrorist organization.
They're a resistance movement.
This is where the progressives lose.
Do not get into this fucking downward spiral argument.
It's not worth it.
It's not worth it, dude, at all.
It's an L. It's an L every single time because by definition, they are a terrorist organization.
But guess who else is a terrorist organization by definition?
The IDF.
And they actually were designated as a terrorist organization before they rebranded to the IDF.
Stick to the facts, Hassan.
Stick to the facts.
Who gives a fuck?
Hey, this is a severe violation of America.
The American.
This definition is a good question.
Can I request something?
It's silly.
Can I ask?
Can I please request something?
I'm interested in having a conversation.
You take this and you just go on and on and on and on.
You repeat yourself.
You double down the same point.
I just want to have a conversation.
You make your point and then you move on.
You're doing too much.
Please.
I just, we're going to be.
The American terrorism designation is silly.
Do we agree?
I don't know.
But do you want to?
But I'll be more precise.
I'm not going to use this definition without ever actually talking about it.
What do you mean?
Let me be more precise.
Here's what you say.
Hey, Jalen, shut the fuck up, dude.
I pray they gave you money to stream these two idiots.
Hey, retard, there was 300,000 people collectively watching this debate.
Okay.
So I'm breaking it down because I think it's important to talk about the facts because clearly Hassan is too much of a bitch to talk about the facts.
And Ethan is deflecting at every fucking corner he can because he doesn't know the facts.
So I'm talking about the facts.
If you don't like it, get the fuck off the stream, you fucking bitch.
Holy shit.
Okay.
By far, there is no one better equipped to break down this fucking debate on YouTube than myself because I understand terrorism.
I understand Middle Eastern foreign policy.
I understand what happened on October 7th.
I understand the Israeli perspective and I understand the Palestinian perspective.
So when I am talking about this, and I'm unapologetic when I give the stances that I have, unlike Hassan, who fucking got embarrassed here by Ethan, who is not a good debater and a fucking retard, because Hassan was more concerned with being politically correct than actually being correct on the facts.
That is a problem.
So shut the fuck up, dude.
300,000 people watch this debate live, okay?
And I'm by far the best fucking person to break this shit down.
Better than Osman Golden and all these other idiots that don't understand foreign policy properly.
All right?
Shut the fuck up.
He said, law is a paramilitary organization.
Do we like them or no?
They are a terrorist organization.
Like, there you go.
Just concede on that, dude.
It's not worth fighting.
He agrees.
Yeah, they're a terrorist organization.
Now, here we go.
He's going to say, well, you know, it's kind of fucked up.
Blah, blah, blah.
They are designated by the American State.
They're not a terrorist organization.
I do not like them then.
Well, like, I like what you like.
I don't have an issue with them.
Let's just say.
What did you mean by that?
You do not have an issue with Hezbollah.
Yeah, thank you for asking.
Exactly.
All right, let me explain.
I do not have a single issue with the way that Hezbollah has defended southern Lebanon.
I do not have a single issue with Hezbollah as a form of militancy trying to incur penalties on the genocidal state of Israel.
Because if you recognize that it is a genocide, then what is the expectation from other parties involved in the region?
The very fact that other countries as a other countries are not also up in arms is ridiculous, considering that Israel is a belligerent force that is destroying everything in the fucking region because it has an underlying extermination policy.
And you agree with that because it's a genocide.
You speak a genocide.
So what is the explanation?
This conversation is becoming impossible if you don't just stop talking for a minute and allow.
So what Hassan could have done here, instead of making the angle of, oh, like, you know, making this whole like more of this argument about them not being terrorists and freedom fighters.
No, man, look, it's fine.
This is what you do.
Yes, they're designated as a terrorist organization.
That's fine, but the IDF is also a terrorist organization.
If you want to explore why they're designated as a terrorist organization, we can go ahead and talk about that.
In 1996, they're designated a terrorist organization by a woman named what Madeline Albright, who has Jewish parents and has a heavy incentive to designate them as a terrorist organization because America is occupied by the Zionist lobby.
Okay, that is why they're designated terrorist organization.
But I'm not here to refute the fact that they're labeled a terrorist organization.
I'm explaining to you why they're labeled a terrorist organization and why the IDF also qualifies as a terrorist organization.
Oh, wait, as a matter of fact, they were labeled a terrorist organization by the United States, but they just rebranded.
So that's basically what happened.
What do you want to talk about now after that?
That's how you deal with this fucking argument.
Don't sit there and go around this circular argument about, oh, yeah, bro.
Like, God, they're not terrorist or fighters.
They're not terrorist organizations.
They're freedom fighters.
No, dude.
No, no, no.
Stick to the facts.
Allow me to respond.
Okay.
Thank you.
Hezbollah, when it was first founded, I think was a noble thing, right?
Of defending Lebanon from the IDF invasion.
And they were saying we go into morality, man.
Successful in sending them back.
And Hassan opened this fucking rabbit hole for no fucking reason.
Just concede they're a terrorist organization.
You want to know why they're a terrorist organization?
We can go into that.
But who is a worse offender of human rights?
I think the IDF is.
Back to Israel.
The IDF has killed far more innocent people than Hezbollah.
The IDF has killed far more children than Hezbollah.
That's where we can go ahead and have a discussion.
That's where he should be bringing this.
Cool.
They're a terrorist organization.
Now, let's talk about who's a bigger terrorist.
That's what Hassan should be fucking doing, but he's not.
And it pisses me off because he has the truth on his side.
He has the facts on his side.
He has the knowledge on his side.
But it's so goddamn fucking incapacitated by trying to be politically correct and trying to be, you know, super woke and progressive to fucking talk about uncomfortable truths.
Now, since then, a lot of terrible shit has happened, right?
And you sat there and you said, I do not have a problem with them.
So do you not have a problem with don't justify them?
Just simply compare the egregiousness on both sides.
Both are terrorist organizations, but who are worse?
The IDF is worse than Hezbollah.
And then you go ahead and you can document over 80 years why they are worse.
Okay?
Sniping kids, bombing kids, cutting the grass every couple of years.
Okay?
Illegally occupying indigenous people to the land.
There's so many different examples that he could use as to why the IDF is a bigger terrorist organization than Hezbollah.
But he's not even engaging in that conversation because he's over here fighting on stupid semantics of are they a terrorist organization?
What's what then?
And then this allows stupid ass Ethan Klein to come in and filibuster his position.
Hezbollah did in Syria, mass murdering civilians on the behest of Assad.
Can you find a single what instance where I've actually uh where I've actually said I have you mean Hassan Nasrallah, you fucking retard?
No problem with Hezbollah's actions in Syria.
You said I don't have a problem with Hezbollah.
No, no, no, that specifically.
You know what's so okay.
Okay, so he's talking about when Hezbollah was going into Syria killing people, bro.
Oh my god, man.
Funny.
Do you feel like that is the see?
Because now we're looking at Hezbollah through a micro a microscopic lens.
This should not be happening.
It should be comparing Hezbollah to the IDF.
That is how you win this debate.
Entirety of my conversation because I have talked about Hezbollah's actions in Syria, as a matter of fact.
And I do have a problem with this.
You're precise with your words, right?
I don't think that attacking, I don't think that harming civilians is in any way.
We've completely went away from Israel and now we're talking about Hezbollah and fucking Bashar al Assad and the Arab Spring and the uprising and them killing innocent civilians.
See how we went here instead of comparing Hezbollah to the IDF?
This is what this is what Ethan effectively just did now.
He was able to move the argument into something that takes away from criticism of his position.
Way, shape, or form, remotely correct.
Now, having said that, I'm glad that you brought up Hezbollah because, again, in your video, you falsely claim that Hezbollah is responsible for 500,000 deaths in the participated conflict.
Okay, you say that Hezbollah is responsible for 500,000 deaths in the state.
He participated.
That is the entirety of the deaths, including the Hezbollah militancy in the Syrian civilization.
And therefore, what?
They did nothing wrong?
You see, now we went from October 7th and Palestine, Israel.
Now we're talking about fucking Hezbollah in Syria during the Arab Spring uprising.
Completely different discussion that shouldn't even be mentioned on here.
But again, why are we here?
We're here because Hassan refuses to acknowledge that they are a terrorist organization.
So now he has to go into this circular, stupid fucking argument here with Bashal Assad in Syria, which has very little to do with what's going on on October 7th right now in pursuant to this conversation.
Hezbollah has a lot to do with October 7th, of course, but this whole Arab Spring uprising thing that they're about to get into right now really doesn't have much to do when it comes to October 7th.
Like, dude, what the fuck, man?
As a matter of fact, now that we talk about it, one of the things that led to the Arab Spring and them basically having this uprising and this anger at these Arab leaders, you guys want to know why?
Actually, since we're going to go ahead and go down this rabbit hole and I'm breaking this down from that perspective, a lot of it has to do with the Arab nations being reluctant to step up to Israel.
That's a lot of it.
They don't feel as though they're doing enough for the Palestinian people a lot of the times.
That's another reason why a lot of them revolted.
Like, what the fuck?
You guys are getting cooked by Israel.
No, that's not what it is.
What is that?
On top of a bunch of other things.
There's so many grievances.
Dictatorship, monarchies that don't let the people have freedom of speech, not having rights, bad economic situations, allowing the West imperialism to just run amok all over the place.
There's so many different complaints that people have in the Arab world with their leadership.
But cooking to Israel is definitely one of them as well.
Obviously, claim that they were responsible for all the deaths.
You stood in front of the footage.
You stood in front of footage of an entire town that was destroyed by what?
By barrel bombs.
Who has the capacity to have an air force and use barrel bombs to destroy an entire city?
Do you think Hezbollah has an Arabic?
Is that why you implied that they is that why you posted that football?
Why are you defending Hezbollah's action in Syria?
Do you think that's a good idea?
I'm not defending that.
I'm not sure there are.
Hezbollah didn't do that.
Hezbollah would never blew up a village in Syria.
Do you think Hezbollah has an air force?
No.
Do you think I think that?
Well, you implied it.
You showed me a hollowed out town.
They were barrel bombing.
They were.
That's why I was government, bro.
So, why?
Why did you use that imagery to imply that Hezbollah had killed 500,000 people?
They were complicit.
This is a stupid argument that doesn't even need to be going through, man.
My main problem with you, Ethan, you are speaking.
You're defending terrorism right now, by the way.
What?
You are defending a terrorism right now.
No, dude, I'm defending the truth.
How is this so hard?
So comprehend for you.
The truth is Hezbollah did in Syria.
Wasn't that bad?
They did not kill 500,000 people.
Okay, so it wasn't that bad.
So what Hezbollah did in Syria wasn't that bad?
How many did they kill?
You're minimizing their actions.
How many did they kill?
You're taking the responsibility away from ISIS.
You're taking the responsibility away from the Russian people.
I'm putting a blame on Hezbollah where black is how many did they kill?
I don't even know the exact number of how many they killed.
I believe it's like around 2,000 to 5,000, which once again is inappropriate.
I don't have.
I have no issue.
Did they collaborate with Assad?
They did.
Yes.
They did.
They did.
And so what is the issue here exactly?
You said you have no issue with them.
I think that's a problem.
I think I've described it numerous times at this point.
I have no issue with Hezbollah's militancy against a state that is conducting a genocide.
That much is very clear.
As a matter of fact, I do not have a problem with what I've been doing.
I've talked about your lying.
As a matter of fact, there are plenty of instances where I have Hezbollah's militancy in Syria.
When you're done lying, I'll explain.
Wait, what?
When you're done lying, I'll explain.
You didn't say that.
I don't know.
You were talking to a normal.
You're talking to a normal understanding anything about the conflict.
And he said, how do we feel about Hezbollah?
A general question.
How do we feel about Hezbollah?
Your answer was, we don't.
I don't have a problem with them.
Let's just say.
And then, by the way, see, this is this is again, once again, just very bad that they went down this path.
It should have been, yeah, they're a terrorist organization, and so is the IDF.
Let's go ahead and talk about who's worse.
By the way, Hassan, you start trying to minimize their inclusion in this fucking wanton slaughter of Syrian civilians.
Wait, what?
I'm minimizing their inclusion in the wanton slaughter.
Here's what you said because you want to be present.
You made up the.
Well, I like what you, Ethan.
You said that 500,000 civilians.
What are you talking about?
I did not minimize, I did not minimize their wanton slaughter in the Syrian civil war.
Do you think that they didn't participate with Assad to make that happen?
I mean, they were allied.
Okay, so then why are you defending them?
I'm not defending Ethan.
I have already described to you that I am critical of their actions.
You are misquoting me.
You are misunderstanding.
I'm repeating what you said.
You lied.
I've been in a conversation directly with you.
So I don't understand.
How can you lie to people?
We just watched the clip.
The arbitrary number that you put there because you don't do enough research.
No, that number was based on the totality of deaths.
My claim was that they participated in it.
You were not critical of their actions in this country.
Why did you put the you so?
You're telling me you've never claimed that Hezbollah has killed more Muslims than Israel has, that IDF has.
So I don't know when.
Okay, now we're going the right way.
I think I did say that, and I think that was back.
Yes, sir.
All right, man.
I'm going to end this thing and then.
All right, guys, we're going to move on over to Freshenford here in a second.
Give me one sec.
Wrong.
I was incorrect.
You've said that numerous times.
You actually said the question against AB when AB was like, I don't think that's correct.
By the way, that's something I looked into, and I was actually wrong about that for sure.
Okay, don't you feel like this kind of misinformation is somewhat don't you think that saying stuff like that is going to make people infer that you might be more pro-Israel than you let on?
Yeah, because it doesn't work like this, right?
You're not just like clicking a box and you're like, well, I said it was a genocide.
What more do you want from me?
Okay, you did.
But then you spend all of your time criticizing.
You are offering analysis and not just formed.
You're upset.
Can I keep doing it?
You're doing it again.
I'm not doing anything.
I'm just talking to explain to you something so you recognize that you're wrong as you've done.
You don't need to explain anything to me.
I understand your point.
So you're accusing me of being irresponsible with my words.
Don't you think saying you have no issue with Hezbollah makes people think you're pro-terrorist?
I don't care that people think this.
It's ridiculous.
So are people valid for thinking you're pro-terrorists when you're saying that?
Do you believe the state is not available to you?
Answer the question.
Is it reasonable for people to think you are pro-terrorists when you say I have no problem with Hezbollah?
Do you believe the department's designation is valid?
You answer my question and I'll answer yours.
Are people valid heavily on your audience not really understanding what you are using?
Let it be noted.
You are done.
You say, oh, Hassan defends terrorists.
Okay.
Literally.
There's a reason why you say that.
You say that to literally charge me without actually addressing my arguments.
And now when you're faced with me, face.
All right, guys, we're going to switch on over to Fresh and Fit here in a second.
I'm just waiting for Bills to come in so that we can properly transition this thing and raid Rumble on Fresh and Fit.
So we're going to get going here in a little bit.
But yeah, see how this is like a very circular argument when it comes to terrorism and shit.
It's like, dude, just concede that they're terrorists and go off of who's more egregious.
That's how you win this.
It's the face of these issues.
You agree with me.
So if you agree with me, you called Hezbollah a noble group.
Should I just agree?
Well, I think you do, but I said their actions were noble.
I didn't call them a noble group.
Again, you have a problem with the truth.
You just said that their actions were no.
No, it's not a noble one.
You said Hezbollah was.
It's different from.
See, I wouldn't even go that far and go, their actions are noble.
I'll just keep it to the facts.
Hey, I'm taking my subjectivity out of it.
Objectively speaking, the IDF is worse than Hezbollah.
Here's why.
Boom.
And then just go through the fucking numbers.
Saying Hezbollah is a noble organization.
But I really need you to answer this.
Isn't it reasonable for people to assume you're pro-terrorist if you say stuff like, I have no problem with Hezbollah?
Just answer the question.
Yes or no?
I don't think it's reasonable for people to assume that I'm pro-terrorist.
You respond and say, no, here's the thing.
They're all terrorists.
I will just go ahead and tell you guys which terrorists is worse.
That's how you deal with that fucking framing that Ethan just tried to put on Hassan.
Now, look, he's on his back foot because now he's got to defend himself and say he's not pro-terrorist.
See?
Terrorism, because I think people, but people are going to assume that regardless, because I am Zionist.
But it's okay for me to assume it's okay for people to assume I'm Zionists.
Yes.
Got it.
The logic is going on.
I get why people assume that.
I get why people assume that you're not.
I get why people assume you're terrorists.
Yeah.
Do you feel?
Okay, let's talk about that then.
Do you feel like someone being branded pro-terrorist is as impactful under the Trump administration as someone being pro-Israel is?
Well, as someone who's been branded as a pro-Israel Zionist in my space, it is a horrifically fucking degree.
It's resulted in the unbelievable, unprecedented.
I've been on the internet for 10 years, right?
I've been through all kinds of controversies, all kinds of shit.
I have never once in my entire life, Hassan, experienced the amount of harassment, the organized psychotic campaign to try to ruin my life, all of my employees, all my employees' life, my family's life, their family's life.
This is your community acting in response to what you're saying about me being pro-Zionist.
So do I think it's worse?
In my experience, it's much worse.
Okay, Hassan, can I ask you a question?
Why the fuck were you browsing H3 Snark the other day and pulling clips from that?
I don't know.
Someone fucking sent me.
Oh, okay.
And so you shit and pissed about me pulling a meme from Destiny subreddit.
I've never even pulled your subreddit up, but you're on stream browsing H3 Snark.
I'm going to switch this thing on over to Fresh and Fit guys, and then they're going to take over.
So I'm going to just turn off the stream on everything, guys.
I'm going to end it here, and then you guys are going to basically go on over to FNF on YouTube and on Rumble.
So go over there, guys.
I'm going to end the Meyer Gain stream here.
And then we're going to go on to Afters, and we can go ahead and cover the other stuff after that, ladies and gentlemen.
So let me go ahead and end the stream here, guys, for you.
I love you guys.
Going over right now, how do I rate it?
Josie, can you raid Fresh and Fit?
Josie, do me a favor and raid Fresh and Fit if you're listening to the stream right now.
Jake is there too.
Was that or Jake?
Yeah.
Raid Fresh and Fit, guys.
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