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April 25, 2025 - MyronGainesX

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Ian Carroll Interview, Feds Arrest Judges, USC Student MELTS DOWN!

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	All right, let me see here.
	I think we might be live on YouTube already.
	Yeah, there we are.
	You can see us live on YouTube.
	We are.
	Yeah, cracking.
	All right.
	Cool.
	Cracking.
	What's up, YouTube?
	Yeah, what's up, guys?
	They said there's an echo.
	There's no echo.
	What are y'all talking about?
	All right.
	I think we should be good.
	Let me see here.
	Chat, give me ones if you guys got us and we are good.
	Give me ones if we are good.
	Let's see.
	We're good, dog.
	We're good.
	Someone is saying Echo?
	What do you mean, echo?
	I don't.
	I don't hear any echo.
	Give me ones if we are good.
	That might be coming from your computer, Ian, or?
	I don't know.
	When I'm listening to the stream, I'm not hearing an echo.
	Because I could hear myself in the background a little.
	I don't hear any echo.
	Yeah, it might be on Let me see if I can.
	All right.
	I think there might be a way to do some.
	Okay, I think it's done now.
	They're saying there's no echo.
	Someone said they're trolling.
	Bro, mods, ban these fucking idiots that put that that say dumb shit like that, bro.
	If anyone says that there's echo and hurts the quality of the show, man, that's annoying.
	I told you guys already.
	You guys can say whatever you guys want, but just do not troll the quality of the show so that we're like wasting time, you know, trying to fix that stuff.
	So, okay, they're saying we're good now.
	All right.
	Yeah, welcome to the show, man.
	Dude, it's good to talk to you again, man.
	No, it's good to talk to you too, bro.
	Dude, it was sick to see your recent tour and all the stuff you were doing on stage at this event you were just at.
	You went in, dude.
	The college kids are, they're the worst, man.
	But no, dude, I wanted to talk more about you, man.
	I mean, like, dude, I am so, and I haven't been able to tell you.
	I mean, I've been, me and you've been texting and stuff like that, but I've been so happy for your meteoric rise.
	I've seen a lot of haters, a lot of jealous people saying, oh, who is this guy?
	He's a plant, blah, blah.
	And it's just incredible to me how people like forget that you've been on TikTok forever.
	You're making the short form content.
	It's really good.
	It's really engaging.
	And then, you know, you moved on over to doing more long form content on YouTube and podcasts.
	People had you on the show.
	And that's what happens when you make good stuff, man.
	People discover you and then they want to work with you and bring you on, man.
	So I think getting over on Rogan, the number one podcast in the world, or at least United States, is a big deal.
	How did that come about?
	Joe just messaged me.
	He messaged me shortly after.
	I mean, I noticed when he started following me, I think my friends might have like messaged me about it.
	And I think it's how he probably gets in touch with most people.
	He just kind of starts following you and watching your stuff.
	And then at a certain point, he just messaged me and was like, yo, we should probably start.
	We should probably talk soon or something.
	I'm like, yeah, yeah, seems about right.
	I think we'll be tight.
	And we just kind of scheduled something.
	We had to push the date a little bit because he had a scheduling conflict.
	But I was already planning to move to Austin at the time.
	So it wasn't even like, I didn't even have to fly or anything.
	I just like was already coming to Austin.
	So it overlapped perfectly.
	It was kind of like it was all made to be that way.
	Gotcha.
	He hit you on Twitter, I guess.
	I was very stoked on how it went down.
	I'm assuming he hit you up on Twitter.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He DM'd me.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, that's awesome, man.
	And so you went on that interview, right?
	Because I had it reacted to it.
	And I was hype.
	Because the first, a significant amount of the interview, you guys just talked different theories, just shooting the stuff.
	You guys didn't really talk about Israel or any of that other stuff until I've seen a few times, kind of like glance through and back out and glance through and back out.
	And I think we were kind of just establishing a baseline a little bit, but also just kind of jumping around through conspiracy theories.
	It's not like we didn't have any discussion beforehand what we were and weren't going to talk about.
	Just like any podcast, I think people have all these conspiracy theories that like podcasts are scripted and podcasts are like, and you know that it's like, that's not how it is at all.
	You literally just show up, sit down, crack a beer and like, or, you know, sparkling and just start talking.
	Yeah.
	But it was during the Epstein stuff.
	And so it was like all of my content at the time was about Epstein.
	And so it was kind of obvious that we were going to talk about Epstein at least a little bit.
	And, you know, we, we kind of held off on talking about Israel until much later, but there was like a certain point like near the end where he just kind of like left an open question.
	And I wasn't going to not talk about Israel with the opportunity there.
	Yep.
	And I intentionally tried to do it in a very like moderate and normy and kind of like balanced way that wasn't super hard in because that's the audience and that's like the right way to do it in that setting.
	When you're talking to people that might have no context or very little context or very mainstream context, you want to just kind of give them a very balanced starter pack of what's going on here, things that they can look up for themselves, things that they can corroborate and kind of get to asking their own questions.
	So I was super proud of how it came out.
	And it was wild how many like conspiracy theories and opinions and haters came out of the woodwork because of it.
	It was a good time, but it definitely was, it was a bit of a madhouse for like a month afterwards.
	Yeah.
	And I got into a couple of really heated discussions with people about that interview.
	And people were saying, oh, he didn't go hard enough.
	He should have done this.
	This should have done that.
	I literally told him, shut the fuck up, dude.
	Like, I appreciate it.
	Like the guy went on JRE.
	You can't go on there talking about the fucking Talmud, bro.
	Like, I'm sorry.
	Like, you got to kind of slowly build your way up.
	Right.
	And people don't, you know, I look at Joe Rogan as like, he is what I call like the first step towards alternative narratives.
	He's like what normies that don't trust the government will watch, right?
	So you can't go on there and be full retard and talk about this topic and then just like make yourself look crazy, make him look, make him uncomfortable and just go wild.
	So I think like, you know, like, because I remember you vividly, you talked that you mentioned the dancing Israelis.
	That's a W in itself.
	The fact that you even mentioned it on a platform that big guaranteed at least 50 to 100,000 people are going to Google that now.
	And then just like you said, because I literally said that when I was talking about this, it's better to say something and let the people Google and come to their own conclusion.
	Exactly.
	Versus you try to like go wild and, you know, go into super deep details.
	Especially to say things that are the easily like findable resources.
	Like you can find those FBI files and they are official FBI files.
	So they're a very high integr, high integrity source that you can send people to.
	Whereas like trying to send people to the Talmud is like, A, it's hard to interpret.
	It's hard to understand.
	It's hard to even find the real Talmud.
	And you start to get into all this.
	Like, if you talk about something like the Talmud on Joe Rogan, you actually alienate the huge amount of the audience that could have started asking questions.
	And they'll just be like, this guy's crazy.
	I don't trust this guy.
	Right.
	And also like, I don't want to break Joe's trust because Joe is not trying to have me on to talk about the Talmud.
	And instead, we had a great conversation.
	It was a ton of fun.
	And I imagine that I'll probably talk to him again in the future and we'll probably progress the discussion and the conversation more.
	And so I intentionally, you might have noticed, I think that you actually pointed out when you did your reaction that I intentionally said to the camera on it too, like, Joe doesn't necessarily agree with everything that I'm saying.
	Like just mainstream media, just so you know, like I'm saying this as my opinion, not necessarily Joe's.
	And because it's not just that you're talking to normies on Joe Rogan's podcast, you're talking to everyone.
	But the big one that you're talking to is the hit piece smear campaign media.
	And so you have to be really aware that everything you're saying can be taken out of context and turned into smear campaigns really easily, both against yourself and against your ideas and against Joe.
	And so you have to be really thoughtful that the way you're saying things is so clear that when any, even if they try to take it out of context, anyone that goes and watches the actual show will realize that it was taken out of context and realize that I was presenting a very balanced narrative and a very thoughtful approach.
	And they won't like it kind of, you have to play defense and offense at the same time.
	Yeah, especially when you're on a platform that big.
	Like, you know, saying just saying something like, just like Dancing Israel is like a huge accomplishment because that's going to, you know, get people to start looking it up.
	And, you know, and I think people need to know too, right?
	Someone that like talked about this before October 7th.
	If you talked about this stuff before, man, like it was an instant banhammer.
	So, you know, you being able to bring up these ideas on the biggest platform in the United States is absolutely nuts.
	And I think that in itself is a big W. And then the crazy thing is, so you're on JRE.
	Candace is on Theovan.
	And Andrew Taylor's on Nelson.
	I didn't know.
	Same day.
	What was the third one that happened?
	So you on Rogan, Candace on Theovan, and then Andrew Tate on Nelson.
	Yep.
	That was a wild day.
	Dude, it was crazy because like he, he, all you guys like mentioned, right?
	Like Andrew said, who can you not criticize the United States?
	And then fucking Kyle from now retard, the Dems, the Dems, the Democrats, the Democrats.
	He's like, no, the Jews.
	There's like three different flavors of J Pilling on the internet.
	Like millions and millions of views all in one day, all on the same question.
	Jeremy Boring wrote this like fucking tweet saying how sad he was.
	I was just like, holy shit, man.
	The narrative is cracking, man.
	People are waking up and it's wild, man.
	So let me ask you this, man.
	So what has changed?
	So obviously, you know, and I remember all the lore.
	First, Elon Musk asked this question about why does why do people not like Israel?
	What am I missing?
	You write this.
	Yeah, what am I missing?
	And you write this, you know, very well thought out like thesis damn near of why people have issues with Israel.
	And it's like a million likes or whatever, crazy ratio.
	That was crazy.
	Like, take us through that.
	Like, what made you respond in that way?
	How long did it take you to write that tweet?
	Let's go through this.
	Dude, that was, I mean, like, I had grown.
	My platform was big at that point.
	And Elon had started following me like a month or two before, probably off of some totally unrelated video, honestly.
	Something totally different, I would imagine.
	Probably something silly.
	And then he posted some bullshit, like Israeli propaganda video that was clearly like, like, we stand for God and we're the democracy.
	And this is like this bullshit, really well, like edited, high-quality video that's clearly from the Israeli propaganda machine.
	And he posted it.
	And I was, and, and I think that I responded like, you know, Elon, for being so smart, you are surprisingly bad at understanding this one issue.
	And he, for some fucking reason, responded saying, what am I missing?
	Right.
	And so I, uh, I didn't actually notice at first.
	I got like three different text messages from friends all at once, like, bro, don't miss this opportunity, bro.
	Check this out.
	And that was, I was like out doing something at the time when I got, I don't remember what I was doing, but I like read the, read the text, the tweet, and immediately stopped what I was doing, like parked my car and just started like typing it out.
	Yeah.
	Um, because I think it had already been like an hour or two since he had responded.
	And I had no concept that this was about to blow up.
	It was just like, Elon, reply, like, just like give him, you know, the sauce, right?
	And immediately my thought is like in those big platform moments, you have to come correct with sources with the highest quality evidence.
	And we all have our different opinions about which are the highest quality pieces of evidence, which are the ones you want to bring up.
	But I just kind of went with like the top 10 of what do I think are the number, like the highest integrity arguments that I know I have sources for that I can quickly grab.
	So I first made this long list of like explaining everything in as good a language as I could.
	And then I made a reply.
	I retweeted it and I put in a thread of all my sources for each of those claims.
	And then I made a video running through it in my like kind of traditional format to just like hit it on all three to show that this is what I think, but this is why I think it.
	And you can, cause it's so important, even if you know you're right, when you're trying to communicate with other people that think you're wrong or that just don't know anything about it, it's so important that you show sources.
	Not necessarily to prove that you're right, but to show them that you're a serious, thoughtful person that is like able to be reasoned with and you're not just like a crazy person.
	Because if you don't know anything about Israel or you're propagandized about Israel and you see someone just going so hard on them, it's easy to think because you've been taught to think this, oh, that's just like some crazy Jew hater.
	And so bringing sources, even if you know you're right and whatever, the point is to show that, no, this is like a thoughtful argument that you should take seriously.
	And for one reason or another, it just like blew up.
	And I think a lot of that is people like you, like people like Nick, people like Saint, like just everyone just started like looking at it, reposting it and talking about it.
	And that kind of spiraled.
	And then it came, some fucking hilarious memes came out of that one.
	Like people, there's this one meme where they took Freddie Mercury doing a queen concert.
	And they like, oh, I guess that was after Joe Rogan.
	It's like one of my all-time favorite like hype memes someone's ever made for me.
	Did you, so when you, what were the top three that used?
	Do you remember?
	I know it was a couple months back, but you remember the topic?
	I don't remember what the top three were, but I'm sure that one of the top three was probably just the number of kids and women that have been bombed and killed and like how long that's been going on.
	I'm sure that Jeffrey Epstein and all the evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was associated with Israel was one of the top ones.
	And I bet that AIPAC and how 93 out of 100 of our senators in 2023 were paid by APAC.
	I would imagine that those three were probably pretty near to the top.
	But, you know, the nuclear program was probably up there.
	You know, the terrorists that founded Israel was probably up there.
	Uh, I mean, the list is long, so um, you know, you take your pick, right?
	And I do tend to come back to certain ones more than others, yeah, no, no, of course, and um, and it's really crazy because you know, as much as you know, guys like me or you or other people might say, Oh, yeah, like this is all basic stuff or whatever, you know, you still got to remember that, like, like the average American is completely unaware of this stuff, right?
	And I think, um, and I think that's why it was so powerful when you had that appearance on JRE to present it in a very palatable fashion, where even someone who has no idea or is even critical of you, maybe they'd still be able to be like, you know what?
	Yeah, this guy is actually right about this stuff.
	I might not like this guy, but he's correct about this.
	Because what I've noticed, man, when it comes to this topic, and I want to get your take on this because I've seen a lot of people try to sit there and fact check you or piss or they're pissed off that you had a discussion, which I want to talk about, the Doug Murray thing here in a second.
	When you talk about this subject, what I've realized is if you don't come correct, they're literally going to come after you hardcore and say it's misinformation, it's all a lie.
	You got to definitely be able to cross your T's and dot your eyes.
	What's your thoughts on that as far as like people like Doug Murray going on Rogan and doing this damage control?
	Even Joe Roe, even Jordan Peterson the other day.
	Yeah, the Jordan one was, I think Jordan was far more tactful, even though it was also a little transparent.
	But before Douglas Murray came out and did his kind of like attack tour, it was just people on the internet, a lot of Israel shows, a lot of people with Israeli flags in their bio trying to, I mean, a lot of them are retarded and are trying to like say that I'm sponsored by Qatar, completely unable to actually refute any of the arguments.
	So the best that some of them came up with was like Whitney Webb's book was published by a Palestinian.
	Oh, yeah.
	No shit, retard, because if it was published by a Zionist or anyone with a mainstream publishing deal that was, you know, Zionists have their fingers in all those mainstream publishers.
	So the book wouldn't be fucking for sale if it was published by a Zionist.
	Duh.
	So they had a lot of hollow arguments like that that were hilarious and a ton of fun to just tear to shreds.
	A lot of people just went straight to attacks on my character, but never, you know, they never actually call you a liar and they never actually refute the arguments.
	They never actually address the arguments.
	And the few people that did they doxed your parents.
	Say again?
	I said that these fucking POSs, they doxed your parents.
	They tried.
	Yeah, they got all their information wrong.
	They fucking fucked up addresses.
	They fucked up like dates of birth and who was born where they fucked all kinds of shit up.
	But yeah, they tried to come after my family.
	They tried to come after people that know me.
	They got my event.
	They started coming after the families of the event, like the venue where I was going to throw this event.
	They started trying to dox the families of that venue and threatening the venue and the families, which is ridiculous.
	It's a family-owned company.
	It's in Boston.
	And so we had to move to Austin.
	It's in Boston, if I'm not missing it.
	It was in Boston.
	And it's understandable because Boston is a very like the money systems in Boston.
	Like Boston is where Harvard is.
	Boston is like an old money town with a lot of Jewish money.
	And so there's a lot of like political threats that were able to be made of like, we're going to call you Jew haters and get you blacklisted from the whole Boston business community.
	And so it was understandable that the families got really worried and wanted to back out.
	And I did not, I don't hold it against them at all.
	Was that over after your Rogan appearance, right?
	That's when they it was directly after it was direct retaliation.
	I don't remember.
	And it's silly because it's like, I'm going to have like, I was going to invite Laura Loomer.
	Like, I'm going to have like Jewish people there.
	It's like, it has nothing to do with Israel.
	That's not the plan to talk about Israel.
	It's like about free speech.
	And so we're going to move it to Austin.
	And, you know, now they've made that a part of the story, which is hilarious.
	They keep on giving like us more examples of why this is a problem.
	It's like totally the Zionists and like these like Jewish factions aligned with Israel.
	They totally don't like have greater allegiance to Israel unless you say something bad about Israel.
	And then we'll come for you.
	Yeah, then they come for you for real.
	But then, you know, some of the material, some of the better arguments that materialized were trying to like, it was mostly casting doubt on Epstein and on Epstein's association with Israel because I was so hard on that.
	And I was so down with Whitney Webb's book.
	Shout out to Whitney Webb, One Nation Under Blackmail.
	And those were mostly trying to either deflect that maybe he was actually CIA and that the CIA is using Israel as cover, which is like, all right, bro, like, whatever you say.
	And some people were trying to claim that maybe he's Saudi Arabian or maybe it's like, yeah, dude, no, he's not.
	And like, it's a pretty hollow argument.
	And it was weird, actually.
	Like, Whitney kind of like came out and criticized my argument.
	And she gave, she made good points, but it's like, I can't help but wonder how many books I helped her sell.
	Oh, yeah, bro.
	Right?
	Crazy.
	Because the thing with her, dude, I don't know what I don't know if, I don't know what it is, why she doesn't do interviews or whatever.
	Because, hell, I've reached out to her.
	I was going to have run with Dostic and have a sit-down.
	I was like willing to have her maybe one-on-one with us, whatever.
	Like people have invited her to come do podcasts.
	She just doesn't do them.
	I understand.
	I think someone told me that she has a special needs child.
	So that might be why.
	Yeah, she has a lot of family stuff and she lives out of the country.
	She's very careful about media.
	And I assume that she probably went through a lot of shit when she was writing that book.
	I assume that she lives in Chile for a reason, like a safety reason.
	But I also, I, this is just my, my opinion.
	I didn't even know that she's very careful of like the Jew hating for good reason.
	Like she should not tarnish the reputation of that book.
	I mean, I try, I'm the same way.
	Like I'm more open to talking to everyone because I fucking hate censorship.
	But like I also am very careful about how I talk about it because I don't want to be portrayed that way.
	And I'm like, I love people that are say whatever they want to say on every angle.
	Like I love your shit.
	You're hilarious.
	Even when we disagree, I love your shit.
	But like I understand why Whitney is super careful about who she talks to and why she like wouldn't talk to Myron or wouldn't talk to Stu or wouldn't talk to Nick.
	But why she wouldn't talk to Ryan is an interesting one.
	And I don't really know the drama between Ryan and her, but there's a lot of drama.
	And I just try to stay out of it and admire both of their work and be thankful for both of their contributions because I'm really just set up a debate or just kind of like end the, you know, this, the little tip.
	I know, right?
	So, but yeah, no, I think with her, because I've heard like big outlets even reach out to her too, but she just doesn't like to do interviews like that because of her kids.
	Yeah, she just doesn't like doing them.
	So I didn't know she was out of the country.
	So that makes sense.
	But yeah, it's, it's a very, you know, because you got different people, right?
	Some people are a bit more extreme, right?
	And, you know, go wild with it.
	Some people are more refined.
	And, and, you know, but I do think that everyone has a position when it comes to getting the truth out there and they have their own style, right?
	But I definitely do think when you go on certain platforms of certain sizes, you absolutely have to be careful.
	Tell me about the Doug Murray thing, bro.
	What are your thoughts on that when him and Dave Smith are in there complaining about you and not Dave Smith, but Dave Smith was defending you, but like yeah, Doug Murray complaining about you and Daryl Cooper and shit like that.
	What was your thoughts on that?
	It was very flattering and very funny.
	And I got such, that whole week was so fun.
	And the memes that came out of Douglas Murray talking about being there were so good.
	And when you actually look into like have you ever been there?
	Yeah, like what Doug Murray's being there is is like, okay, bro, you went on a propaganda tour with the IDF.
	Like get a fucking break.
	That would be like getting a tour of the Americas with Christopher Columbus and claiming to understand the Native Americans or some shit.
	Like that's so retarded.
	And he like, and when you actually dig into his act, like his credentials, his college degree, not impressive.
	When you dig into his whole career of work, it's like, clearly we can tell who he works for.
	And so then when he come, and like when you look at his husband and his, you know, his proclivities, it's like, yeah, like, we kind of see what's going on here, bro.
	So it was so hollow and so silly.
	And then he actually like wrote an op-ed that was written and in it, he clearly accidentally claimed that I was Daryl Cooper.
	Like he used my name in the paragraph about me, but then said that I was doing things around World War II that was clearly his thoughts about what Daryl Cooper was doing.
	Okay.
	Because he didn't really have his thoughts straight.
	And so it was just like so half baked and under thought.
	Because if he's a professional journalist, journalism is about communicating and like telling people what, you know.
	And so he should be a professional at understanding that that is not how you approach Joe Rogan's audience.
	You don't approach Joe Rogan's audience with condescension and like authoritarian like sort of gatekeeping.
	And so he really just made our point for us and kind of the only people that came out in support of him were the Israel shills, which just helped us all see who the Israel Shills were.
	I thought Jordan Peterson was much more effective and sinister in what he tried to do.
	But fortunately, Jordan has undermined himself and Jordan's reputation is already in the tanks because of what he's done.
	And a lot of people on X have been doing a really good job of calling out Jordan's sort of pathologizing of people as a very Soviet tactic and a very dark and fucked up political thing to attempt.
	And it's like really ironic that he was pretty clearly talking about Candace when he was saying like the Christ is King thing.
	And even if he didn't mean to, you'd have to be an idiot, a poor communicator to not realize that his words were going to be heard as he's talking about Candace because he's clearly saying the people saying Christ is king are psychopathic.
	Where Candace is like a healthy, unmedicated mother of soon to be, I think, four or five that is living like her best life.
	And Jordan is like an ex-drug addict, like with marital problems and all these problems.
	And it's like in his career, we've all watched him rise to these great heights and then fall in this tragic way where he was so like red pilling for so long.
	And now he's just like this sniveling, like whiny show for Israel and the Daily Wire.
	Um, so it's like so silly that he would come out and try to pathologize people and be a representative of Christianity, which he's not even a Christian, I'm pretty sure.
	Like, it's like, what are you doing, bro?
	Like, just Jordan, I talked about this yesterday, man.
	Like, 2015, 2016, like 2016, 2017-ish, like Jordan Peterson was unstoppable, man.
	Like, every young guy looked up to him, like, holy shit, we finally have a voice in, you know, this, you know, liberal dominated media fighting back against this stuff.
	And so many guys were able to, like, you know, kind of latch on and get, you know, you wanted to support Jordan Jordan.
	And, you know, I think what I think three things hurt his credibility.
	His daughter, Michaela, being an idiot and doing stupid shit.
	Yeah, like doing dumb shit behind the scenes that he has to defend.
	Because the problem with his daughter is that she's kind of a fake tradcon and she's not intelligent.
	So she'll go there and she'll debate on behalf of her dad or she'll like, and it's good intentions.
	But the problem is, she doesn't have, yeah, she doesn't have the skill set of the prerequisite knowledge to really do it.
	Like Candace Owens made her look terrible on Pierce Morgan, right?
	So and then like, how is Jordan going to criticize his own daughter in public on the internet?
	Like exactly.
	He can't.
	It doesn't matter.
	And she basically runs his business.
	So like she does like, she does like everything.
	And that's where she should have kept doing that, staying behind the scenes is being off the fucking camera.
	But yeah, so her stupid antics, right?
	Uh, behind the scenes, dressing like a whore, like divorcing her husband, um, you know, making dumb comments, that that hurt him.
	Then the um, the drug use, of course, right?
	The drug use and then going, disappearing for like a year or two, um, as being like a masculine leader, you can't be doing drugs.
	Then crying, right, randomly on on different podcasts, that was bad.
	And then also, some people might disagree with me on this, it was a bad idea for him to go after Andrew Tate, and I'll tell you why.
	So when he was using drugs and he was kind of on this low, Andrew had this meteoric rise of the youth.
	What Jordan should have done was brought Andrew Tate on, had a discussion and kind of bring the two bridges together.
	And that would have been a lot better because he wouldn't have been able to get the ear of the young people that he had just lost from these scandals.
	But instead, he went on a tirade attacking Andrew and made it basically us versus them.
	And then bam, a bunch of his audience is going to leave there because no one that's under 30 years old or under 25 years old is listening to Jordan Peterson.
	They're listening to Andrew Tate, right?
	Like me and you know who Jordan Peterson is.
	And we, you know, supported him before because when we were younger, that was his come up.
	But now he's not, these young guys are not looking at him.
	They're looking at guys like Andrew Tate and Sneeko and Nick and shit like that.
	So for him to insult Andrew was actually really bad.
	And then like sit down with like Destiny.
	Like, bro, Destiny, you guys disagree on everything.
	And I like Destiny, by the way.
	I'm not going to be one of these guys that's going to bash Destiny.
	I actually do like Destiny.
	What I'm saying is that's cool.
	Oh, okay.
	You know him better than me, though.
	I don't know him at all.
	For him to attack Andrew, who actually has far more things he agrees with, but then go ahead and sit down with Destiny.
	We know it's because of Israel, right?
	Because they both agree on the protection of Israel.
	Like that made him look really bad.
	So it's like these different, you know, he should have at least sat down with these people that he's critical of.
	And then him constantly attacking Nick, I think that's also hurt him too.
	Because what I've realized is anyone that swings right wing, that is, especially if they're a white male under 30 years old, they're going to be a Nick Fuentes supporter, bro.
	So these guys grossly underestimate his influence with the young guys.
	And the Boomer generation is dying off, in my opinion.
	Like they're not going to be relevant in 10 to 20 years.
	Yeah.
	And I think Jordan doesn't entirely realize that.
	And I think you're right that he made some critical errors in his just like strategy of how he played his image and how he played.
	Like you don't attack Andrew Tate from the low ground when you're coming off a like career low.
	Good point.
	Yeah.
	In ways that are not even like not even like A, you can't go like you really have to have some sort of jiu-jitsu skills to even get Andrew to engage with you on a like rational level instead of on a like fuck you bitch level.
	And you're going to lose the fuck you bitch war with Andrew Tate every single time.
	So it's like, why even like try?
	Why would Jordan even try that fight, let alone from his own career low?
	And then when they, when he and Michaela started this big online fight with Nick Fuentes, was like so silly and unintelligent because it's not just that Nick has so much support from young people and especially like white and Republican people, but it's like if you try to attack Nick Fuentes, but you don't actually engage with his arguments and his logic and his like facts, then you will, sure, you'll win the hearts of the people that already hated Nick because of his personality.
	But everyone that is like at all like sympathetic to Nick, they're just going to notice that you're not addressing the facts.
	They're just going to notice that you're not actually having an argument.
	You're just having character attacks.
	And it's like, yeah, Nick has lots of character traits that you can try to attack, and that's fine, but you're not going to win the fucking argument that way.
	And Nick still being out here, still challenging everyone to a debate and everyone being scared to debate him is like this glaring, obvious, like black hole at the center of the internet right now that just gets bigger and bigger and bigger every day because everyone's fucking scared.
	Like Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, why don't you debate Nick Fuentes if he's so evil and wrong?
	Like, yeah, I heard that Charlie, why don't you do it?
	He might sit down with bitch ass Dean Withers, right?
	But he's not going to sit down with Nick.
	And, you know, the thing also, you know, and he made a good point about this, right?
	Like, cause I would say, right, there's the right wing, right?
	That, you know, you got your conventional normie right-wingers like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, etc.
	Oh, another thing I think that Jordan Peterson fucked him up was a lot getting on Daily Wire, going on Daily Wire also hurt him as well.
	Like big time, shaking that Nyahoo's hand in that photograph.
	Yeah.
	Big huge mistake.
	Yeah.
	It's just so many goddamn blunders, man.
	His daughter, the drug use, attacking Andrew Tate, attacking Nick Fuentes, like guys that have the youth that he had just lost.
	You know, aligning with Daily Way.
	Attacking Candace.
	Like, don't attack Candace.
	That's an immediate move, dude.
	Like, Candace has taken down literally like presidents of countries.
	Like, don't attack Candace.
	That's that's a losing battle.
	Yeah.
	It's just like, um, and then on top of that, like, just with like hold how the Daily Wire's like had this fall, it's just like been a big L. And I think the big thing, the issue is he made so much money, right, from doing these tours and the book sales and everything else like that.
	He got, he lost that, that, um, he became more pompous.
	He became more like elitist.
	Like, he wouldn't sit down and have a discussion with up and coming contemporary entertainers in the mask and field.
	Like, he was scared to sit down with us.
	They didn't want to sit down with us.
	They didn't want to sit down with Andrew Tate.
	We'll never talk to Nick, whatever.
	And what he doesn't get is, bro, just like you said, you're coming from the low ground.
	Like, you're doing this dumb shit.
	You need to go ahead and collaborate with people that have some type of semblance with your audience, you know?
	So, especially because all you guys have such loyal, like core audiences, it's like whether like a lot of you just named a lot of you guys that have these like bigger kind of like loyal audiences, but even the smaller guys that just have those like core loyal audiences, because you just like, it's this group of people that just say the fucking truth.
	And even if you don't think it's the truth, it's their truth and they're not afraid to fucking say it.
	That is so appealing to young people.
	And that's a huge part of Nick's appeal.
	It's a huge part of your appeal.
	It's like, you don't give a fuck and you don't care if you get canceled.
	You don't care if you get attacked and smeared.
	You're just like, dude, I'm just going to say it.
	Like, I'm going to be offensive.
	I don't give a shit.
	And that is so like what the youth are looking for today that if Jordan had chosen to interface with that like in a real way, in a genuine way, dude, he could have like actually tapped into the youth and actually talked to them.
	But when you try to come at young people as though you're like some fucking god and like know everything, they're just like, okay, dad, go away.
	Like, fuck you.
	And I'll say this too, because me and you are fairly close in age.
	Like our generation, you know, we were stupid liberals, right?
	Like, you know, support Obama, shit like that.
	Then we woke up, right?
	Because I know you're on your journey, you know, you're progressive for quite a bit of your adult life and then you kind of saw the light and switched on over.
	And same with me.
	Like, you know, once I got a job and started getting in the real world, I was like, holy shit, like, this is stupid.
	But what I will say about Gen Zers is a lot of them are conservative off rip.
	So yeah, a lot of them are based right from the start.
	They're based right from the start.
	So it's like for Peterson to kind of not see that and not understand that a big part of his fan base now are guys like us and we've grown up and we see what he's doing.
	It's just very sad, man.
	And it bothers me so much because this is a guy that literally 10 years ago was unfucking stoppable.
	He was the voice of the right.
	Everyone loved him because he was able to use the academic terminology and go to battle these fucking feminists on our behalf and speak their language, but obliterate them.
	But now it's like he's a shelf himself.
	And then like it's almost like the nail in the coffin was him going on JRE.
	And basically what he did was he was calling for censorship.
	That's what he was doing.
	As a guy that endured that, they took his, they try to take his credentials away.
	They try to get him banned.
	They try to stop his tours.
	They try to ban him from countries.
	Like he's dealt with the very censorship that he's advocating with under the premise of, oh, this anti-Semitism, these psychopaths, these grapers, like they're vindictive or whatever the fuck.
	And I'm like, dude, you're calling for what you literally have been fighting against for like 10 years.
	Yeah.
	There's no hate speech clause in the First Amendment for a fucking reason.
	Like, duh.
	It's absolutely wild, man.
	So.
	And to do it at the same time as the administration and our government is pushing the actual fucking like Jewish speech laws is insane.
	Like it's insane they're even trying to get Jewish speech laws passed in the United States.
	Like that is such an L of a strategy and it gives so much fire to like now when people ask me like Eune, why are you so fucking obsessed with Israel?
	Like my first answer is always because they're like, Why aren't you worried about the like Muslims?
	Why aren't you worried about China?
	It's like because they're not trying to fucking censor my speech in my country.
	They're not coming after the first fucking amendment, dumbass.
	And so it's like, like, at first, at least it used to be where they could kind of come at you and be like, why are you so obsessed with Israel?
	And it's like, I'd have to go to Jeffrey Epstein.
	I'd have to try to like get into the political and media subversion.
	And if you like, because if you don't understand that, it's like, yeah, why are you so obsessed?
	But because their towns are in our fucking country because they depend on us so much.
	But now they're trying to ban our speech, it's like, no shit.
	It's way easier to look around.
	Yeah, because before you kind of had to like slowly like, well, you know, 9-11, you know, they lied about that, right?
	Would and then you got to go into that.
	We're like, you know, Jeffrey Epstein is like collecting information, right?
	What?
	Yeah.
	Like, so yeah, you used to have to kind of go about it in that roundabout way.
	But yeah, you're right.
	I mean, dude, they, I mean, what are your thoughts on like Mahmoud Khalil or the girl up in Tufts that got grabbed by ICE?
	What are your thoughts on that, man?
	Grabbing him up for writing fucking op-eds and shit.
	Dude, it's like, I mean, it's messy because it's all, there's like, you can make these individualized case arguments and you can kind of like, you can subvert the conversation by diverting it to this one that is like a justified like deportation or this one that's nice.
	And I have kind of intentionally not dug into the very specifics of each one.
	But in general, it's like we were promised fucking deportations of like mass amounts of illegal immigrants that were committing crimes in our country that were crossing our southern border illegally, that were trafficking children, that were gang members.
	And like, A, the fucking, we're getting less deportations than during Biden.
	And B, we weren't looking for fucking deportations of like college kids that are having opinions and like contributing to our country.
	And like, maybe you want those deportations too, but that's the fucking end of the list.
	Yeah.
	And so the way I look at it is I don't even get lost in the minutiae.
	It's just like, just the fact that that is the way they're taking the deportation angle is makes it clear what they're really trying to do here.
	And it makes it clear that like, because it's A, it's the deportations based on speech and like technicalities and really about opposing Israel.
	But then it's also pair that with the speech laws, pair that with the like anti-boycott, anti-speech laws that are targeting the universities and pair that with the like war with Iran fervor and the like, just it is very clear that they are trying to just set up this whole thing where they can start labeling Americans terrorists.
	And that's been sort of like the slow roll goal ever since 9-11.
	But if they can convince the American public that it's okay to label American citizens domestic terrorists for their support of a terrorist group, it's fucking game over.
	Then literally anyone can be deported.
	Anyone can be put in jail.
	Anyone can be tried without a trial, like put away without a trial.
	It's just like the darkest possible outcome.
	And I don't think we're like headed there real quick, but it's like, I don't even get lost in the minutia because it's all fucked.
	It's like even the ones that you could argue are an okay deportation.
	That's not the fucking point.
	Like, why do we still have all these gang members?
	Why do we still have like all like millions and millions of kid, like people that cross the southern border that are unaccounted for?
	Hundreds of thousands of children that are missing that we've not found that are probably some of them dead.
	It's like that's the kind of shit that matters that I'm not hearing shit about.
	So I don't give a shit about people on college campuses.
	Like, yeah, no, and I'll tell you too, bro.
	Like, you know, someone that used to work for ICE, it takes an enormous amount of resources to track these students down, go pick them up and arrest them.
	And they only have a finite amount of bed space and ICE officers that actually go and facilitate these deportations.
	So, you know, to go after students that are here legally because of their political views is pretty fucking ridiculous.
	Now, you know, you got, you know, for my political views, I'm very, you know, I think we need immigration moratorium.
	I'm very pro immigration enforcement.
	But to waste those resources knowing, because I used to come from that world, how many guys we actually have that can actually conduct this properly is ridiculous.
	And the other thing too, with the students that they deported, yes, they're liberals.
	Yes, they're progressives.
	Mahmoud Khalil and this girl that wrote this op-ed, but here's the problem.
	The girl wrote an op-ed and they went and arrested her writing an article talking about boycotting Israel.
	That's not Hamas.
	And then the other guy out of Columbia that got grabbed, he was just a middleman that would talk to the school and then talk to the students.
	He was basically an intermediary that was trying to facilitate speech.
	He didn't necessarily support Hamas either.
	But what I look at it like is they're trying to kind of create an example and see how far they can go with like going after people for their speech.
	And what you said before, as far as like, this is just the beginning of, you know, mass censorship on American citizens.
	I've been arguing that for months because like a lot of these right-wingers are like, yeah, get them out of here.
	They're Muslim terrorists, blah, blah, blah.
	And I'm like, bro, you guys don't see what's going on here.
	They're experimenting on the green card holders and the visa holders and see what the public sentiment is.
	And if they could get away with removing them and/or arresting them for this stuff with very little due process, guess who's fucking next idiot?
	It's going to be American citizens.
	Like people don't understand that.
	Like they never, it's always, it's always an inch leads to a mile.
	But so I mean, like that's all happening while we have very, we have more than enough evidence to go after all kinds of perpetrators of sexual violence against Epstein victims.
	Like Alan Dershwitz is walking free.
	Leslie Wexner is walking free.
	Like these are American citizens that are living in multi-million dollar homes in America that we have multiple sworn statements in court, tons and tons of evidence and probably tapes from Epstein's own fucking apartments that show these crimes that we could at least be investigating.
	Like, and so it's like, yeah, we're going after fucking college kids that wrote some op-eds when we literally have sexual violence and like terrorism, like that kind of terrorism, like espionage.
	Those homies are just like living rich.
	So it's like just the clear, the priorities are super fucked.
	So two things.
	So two things.
	Number one, we were right about JFK.
	So, you know, we were vindicated.
	They said that we're anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists, but then the documents came out and we saw that they were redacting Israeli intelligence for all these decades.
	That's one thing.
	And then Epstein, what are your thoughts on this whole open-ended question?
	This whole declassified documents rollout, right?
	Where Pamani's AG and Paulina Anna Luna, I think, is the person out that's kind of running the task force.
	Like, what are your thoughts on these declassified documents?
	They just released the RFK stuff recently.
	What are your overall thoughts?
	You can go through Epstein, JFK, RFK, however you want to do it.
	But what are your thoughts on this whole thing?
	Because I know you're going to be all over it.
	I mean, the first Epstein release was so botched and so embarrassing.
	And my opinion is that based on having talked to several different people that were there in the room, people that I both respect and people that I do not respect that were there in the room.
	It sounds like triangulating the information that Pam did not intend for it to be as botched as it was.
	It sounds like Pam knew that it wasn't some bombshell and she was trying to communicate that.
	It just did not like translate the way it got.
	She did a terrible job on Fox.
	The files are on my desk.
	And then it took like a horrible, all retarded.
	And even if she knew it wasn't a bombshell, the way she portrayed it in the media, the way she hyped it up, like it was just so dumb and so at the very least immature and like naive.
	And at worst, it was like malicious and staged and intentional.
	And then the JFK documents were like, like, they were great.
	They were cool.
	They were massive.
	And I think that actually a lot of the stuff that we're going to learn from them, just about how intelligence agencies work and how organized crime works and how the last 40, 50, 60 years have happened.
	I think a lot of that is actually still ongoing with like the deep researchers digging through them.
	The people that have been like writing books, I think they're still deep in those documents, learning.
	Because a lot of the surface stuff was like, yeah, we kind of know.
	And it's like, there was no super smoking gun about Israel.
	There was like lots of little stuff.
	There was, you know, there was no smoking gun about like about Lyndon Baines Johnson.
	There's no real smoking guns.
	And I know, I'm like, I don't trust those documents.
	Like, I don't trust that they're complete.
	I don't trust that they didn't, that there's not parts that have been destroyed long ago.
	So it was cool they released them all.
	And it was cool they were like largely unredacted.
	But it's also like a lot of stuff with like the James Angleton angle of the James Angleton stuff with some of the juiciest stuff.
	Yeah, that stuff.
	It's like it was more circumstantial evidence that like, you know, the researchers that talked about the Israeli angle were basically vindicating.
	Because I remember, you know, they were called anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists for talking about Demona, for talking about Newmek, for talking about Angleton helping them with their nuclear program after JFK got killed.
	So you would have to already know the lore to know where to specifically look.
	Because like the James Angleton hearings that were classified for literally years, that's kind of a lot of the stuff that like vindicates stuff.
	But yeah, you have to know already and go looking for it specifically.
	Yeah, there's no like obvious bombshells, but it was pretty solid.
	Like that being said, like I wasn't really that concerned about the JFK files because I feel like the people that know know.
	And I wasn't expecting it to be so juicy that people that don't think that, like that are skeptical or fucking normies, there wasn't really enough to convince them because they need like simple fucking bombshells.
	And that was kind of what I expected.
	They gave the researchers closure.
	I said it gave the researchers closure, but to the normies out there, right?
	Like, you know, like, let's be honest, like, probably me and your generation are going to be the last generation that gives a fuck.
	Like, exactly.
	A lot of these younger guys are not going to care unless they're into politics.
	So, you know, it basically like closed some loopholes.
	And then I know what Epstein, because me, I'm, I'm more interested in 9-11.
	That's what I'm waiting for the most.
	I'm way more interested in 9-11, dude.
	It's like Epstein is number one, but like 9-11 is like number zero.
	9-11 is so good and juicy and important that it's not even on the list.
	And it's, you know, the silence about like there was one or two mentions of let's get a 9-11 document disclosure and just fucking silence after that.
	Didn't Paulina say that they were going to do 9-11 too?
	Or was that my misspeak?
	Some people said, I don't remember if it was Paulina for sure, but I know that there were some people that said 9-11 documents or at least suggested it, right?
	And that's not going to fucking happen.
	No way.
	Not a chance.
	Because like with, for example, with Epstein.
	Well, let's be clear.
	Epstein's not going to happen either.
	And if it does happen, it'll be redacted.
	There'll be a bunch of shit missing.
	Like, there's, there's no way that they're going to give us the Epstein documents in reality because like it's literally tapes.
	Like they, they, I'm looking at it right now.
	They have like in the photos from his house, the stuff that they confiscated from his mansion, they have whole boxes of videotapes.
	And so, I mean, they're not going to release the videotapes.
	And lots of it is lost too.
	Exactly.
	The FBI lost a lot of it, man.
	Right.
	And so it's like the Epstein stuff, if the actual information were all to come out in like the format that it was originally obtained and the evidence was originally collected, that would be bombshells putting so many millionaires and billionaires away, government officials away.
	It would clearly be implicating Israel in these crazy ways that just like no one's going to allow to happen.
	So like that's not going to happen.
	But beyond that, dude, if the 9-11 documents came out, if there was any serious investigation of what happened, which there kind of wasn't, they knew they were all over this cover-up.
	But like those buildings were either riddled with bombs or like some sort of like, and if it wasn't bombs, it was like directed energy weapons or something.
	Like who the fuck knows?
	But it was not planes.
	And the amount of evidence that had to be covered up, the amount of like angles on two different plane crashes, one over in fucking Pennsylvania, right?
	The Pentagon, not to mention just all like the Israeli art student cover-up, just all the high-level communications between people that were involved in 9-11 is like those documents blow recent history wide open in a way that I don't think we're ever gonna like see.
	Yeah, not anytime soon.
	And, you know, with 9-11, man, it's, you know, I had Richard Gage on a couple weeks ago, and we really went in the weeds with, you know, the buildings going down from an engineering standpoint.
	And 3,000 plus engineers put their names on the line saying, yeah, this was a controlled demolition, bro.
	For, you know, and if people don't believe that there was a controlled demolition for the Twin Towers, what about Building 7?
	Like, literally went down perfectly symmetrical, indicative of dynamite being placed in perfect pivotal positions to bring the building down in a very clean manner, right?
	So, and like the BBC reporting that it had fallen before it had fallen, like on live TV, the woman's fucking talking about how Building 7 just came down and it is still standing in the video frame behind her.
	Shit like that.
	That's just like Silver Sand saying pull it, like shit like that.
	Like, it's just like, you know, yeah, we're just going to pull it.
	It's, it's, um, you know, when you actually look at 9-11 with a very, you know, thorough lens, you start to realize like, okay, yeah, Al-Qaeda was involved.
	Yeah, these guys want to take it down, but they wouldn't have been able to do it with that level of efficiency without it being facilitated.
	You know, now you bring in these Israeli operatives that were, you know, caught dancing on the Dobrik Towers or whatever in Jersey.
	And here's another interesting thing, too.
	I'm sure you know who Ryan Dawson is.
	You've talked to him before, but like, when I had him on, he mentioned one really interesting fact that no one ever really talks about.
	And stop me if you've heard this story before.
	But like, there was a group of Israelis, right, that got grabbed.
	It was in Tennessee or somewhere in the Midwest on this like document benefit fraud case, completely unrelated.
	And basically, these Israelis were getting fake driver's licenses, right?
	And what ended up happening is they got arrested.
	And the person that was giving them the documents was this black woman that was a DMV employee.
	And the FBI ended up arresting her too.
	And she cooperated.
	She agreed to testify.
	But before the trial, she ends up dead in a fiery car crash.
	And those Israelis that were grabbed up in the document benefit fraud case, one of them or two of them had been at the World Trade Center months before the attacks.
	And they had done sprinkler work at the building.
	But the problem is that they didn't have a permit from the Port Authority because the Port Authority owned the World Trade Center.
	So what are some Israelis with fake documents doing at the World Trade Center months before the attack?
	And then a lot of people don't know too that the World Trade Centers were basically empty.
	They were filled with asbestos.
	So, you know, it was a huge problem.
	They couldn't get rid of, like, they didn't want those buildings.
	Yeah.
	They needed them down.
	They couldn't rent them.
	And, you know, rent in New York City is expensive.
	So you got this asbestos problem.
	The property is not cash flowing.
	And then another thing, too, that's interesting, right?
	Just, and this is my real estate hat being on.
	When you buy commercial real estate, it's not the same as when you buy like regular real estate.
	When you buy commercial, they go off of the property and how much money it's earning.
	So I thought it was really interesting that Larry Silverstein was able to get a very unorthodox loan where he only put in like maybe 5% or 10% or 20%.
	And then they gave him the rest of the loan with the fact that the property wasn't cash flowing.
	So and he was able to get terrorism insurance.
	So you know, so all And it wasn't just that it wasn't cash flowing.
	It was that you know as a realtor that this building is condemned essentially.
	Like the building was so out of date and so full of asbestos that like no one wanted it because it was it needed to be destroyed.
	And so like, why does this like great property developer come in and buy it a couple months before the fucking attacks and then take out terrorism insurance and like a really special terrorism insurance that was going to insure both buildings against multiple attacks.
	And then when they got attacked, he double claimed and got payouts for two different planes.
	It was like the biggest fucking insurance payout ever.
	Like, I don't know if that's literally true or not, but it's a huge whole like whole fucking thing.
	That is not like an accident.
	That's like not a coincidence.
	And then like the Zios, right?
	What they'll say is like, well, hold on.
	The World Trade Center, the World Trade Center was bombed in 1993 by Ramsey Yousf, right?
	And my argument to that is, well, Ramsey Youssef is the nephew of Khaled Sheikh Muhammad, who was a 9-11 mastermind.
	I think they had this shit planned since the 90s, man, to get this thing to happen because, you know, they said, oh, yeah, well, it was attacked.
	So that's why he took out the terrorist insurance.
	But when you start lining up things like the clean and break memo, how this attack happened in 1993, how he was able to get this terrorism insurance, the fact that the buildings didn't make any money, he goes ahead and still gets a loan somehow given to him because these banks are not going to give you a loan on our property.
	That's not going to make money.
	So everything here was just screaming of a setup, man.
	And then that's kind of the dream up in the first place, years to plot and think through all the angles and then years to put all the pieces in play and to get the power of players that you would need to like, like it's so complex.
	And that's why it's so unbelievable to people that haven't actually seen the evidence.
	But the thing is that we like, I don't think there really are 9-11 documents, like, because the cover-up was from like hour zero.
	They immediately were on the cover-up.
	The cover-up was like they shipped away all the fucking steel and all the pulverized buildings.
	They literally shipped out the actual evidence of the building immediately because that needed to go.
	So like the amount of cover-up that was already prepared is immense.
	So there's not really like, I don't think there's documents, but the cool thing is that A, there's already enough evidence in the public sphere to pretty much understand exactly what happened.
	And Ryan Dawson is a great example of a dude that's done all the research, has it all sourced and actually can tell you like from start to finish, name by name, like every single thing that's happened.
	And you can do that research too.
	I mean, like the proverbial you.
	You've done a shitload of it, Myron.
	But if we were to get a 9-11 documents, like what is actually being talked about now, you saw the guy, the congressman that went on Tucker recently talking about 9-11?
	The guy that got fired from the Pentagon?
	Say again?
	The guy that got fired from the Pentagon or, oh, no.
	Yes, I know what you're talking about.
	Kurt Sheldon.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I reacted to that interview.
	Yes, that was great.
	Yeah.
	Good interview.
	I mean, I've heard some people trying to call him controlled opposition or something, but it's like, all right, calm down, guys.
	And that is what I think we're actually going to get is if we get something about 9-11, it'll be an investigation, an independent commission, which we totally deserve and should have.
	Because if you had an independent commission and investigation, it could more than get to the bottom of what had really happened if you just dug through the government files and did some action investigation, interviewed some people, like fucking, you know, threw some subpoenas around.
	It's still well within range of finding out what happened in a way that like JFK is just way too far back.
	Like that's never fucking, we're not getting any more evidence than what is already in those documents.
	And we already have seen the documents and they're scrubbed to a large degree.
	So Epstein's the same way where a lot of the shit probably already got scrubbed, but it's like everyone's fucking sitting there.
	Like Delaney Maxwell, no one's fucking asking her any questions.
	Alan Berswitz, no one's asking him any questions.
	There's all these people.
	So it's like, those are the two big ones that we could easily break wide open tomorrow if anyone actually wanted to.
	Yeah.
	No, and, you know, it's with the Sheldon thing with, you know, I know some people say, oh, yeah, he's my control opposition.
	Look, any guy that's like a former congressman coming in here saying like, I think it was controlled demolition and there's an alternative story or at least questions the 9-11 commission.
	Hey, like you're fine with it.
	Yeah, because, you know, the more we could continue to debunk the 9-11 commission, which everyone knows is bullshit at this point.
	NIST did a terrible job.
	I think the more the better it is.
	And then, yeah, and then he also mentioned some things that I didn't even know.
	The guy that ran the 9-11 Commission, I forget his name, but he's a hardcore Zionist, the guy that ran it.
	Yeah, he has a unique last name.
	Someone in the chat's going to put a chat.
	If you guys could remind me who what the guy's last name was, that was the head of the 9-11 commission.
	But yeah, that's ridiculous.
	And then, yeah, with the whole Epstein thing, yeah, you're right.
	With the Wexler, it's crazy to me how nothing has been done on that.
	And they did that rollout and brought these like Twitter influencers there.
	And there hasn't been anything left.
	And they release nothing since.
	And then, like, what, they release a bunch of flight logs that people already had?
	Like, what the hell, man?
	Yeah, ridiculous.
	And all this is happening while they're fucking pushing for war with Iran, like, so goddamn hard.
	And I, like, I've not been keeping super tight tabs on what's going on there, but it feels like from looking in from the outside, tell me if you see something else.
	It feels like Pete Hagseth and maybe Donald himself are the two that are kind of the most like that are like, man, like, let's not actually fucking bomb Iran, guys.
	Like, I'm reading you're precisely, yeah, because I'm staying up on the war very much.
	And now they're trying to smear the shit out of Pete Hagseth day after day after day after day because they got to get him the fuck out of there because he's this major blockage.
	Because they are like, they, and you're actually the one that has said this.
	And I've read some of your tweets about this: how like Israel needs to act on the weakness that they've created in Iran and in the Middle East right now.
	They have killed all of Iran's proxies.
	They've destabilized the region.
	They've gotten rid of all the terrorists.
	They've fucked up Gaza hardcore so they don't have to deal with Hamas right now.
	And they've got some of the U.S. support still on their side.
	And they like fucking need to go now.
	And so they need the speech laws.
	So even though it's unpopular, they got to push for it because they need American support and they need to be able to censor people like you and me and Candace and Joe and Tucker and everyone because we're not going to be fucking having it.
	And then like they need to start dropping bombs right away because they only have a window of a year or two, right?
	And if after Donald Trump, like how do they know that they're going to get someone else that is like in any way sympathetic?
	If you get a leftist, even if it's a Zionist leftist, like how is a leftist going to go to war with Iran, even if you're Zionists?
	Bro, I can't even.
	The left will burn the fucking country down.
	I can't have said it better myself.
	This is the best chance they've had in like decades because I've been like studying this conflict very tightly, staying up on it.
	And basically there's a war going on in the White House.
	You got people like Pete Hexeth, Donald Trump, JD Vance, and Tulsi Gabbard who are, you know, trying to go the diplomacy route.
	Then you got people like Mike Waltz and his squad saying, no, we need to attack now.
	And, you know, it's interesting how they're using the single gate situation to try to get Pete Hexeth fired, but it was actually Mike Waltz that invited the reporter into the fucking chat, right?
	So, um, well, they broke a news signal chat like story that he had like texted his team and his brother or something like that, right?
	His wife and his sister.
	Yep, they're, yeah, they're trying to, they're trying again.
	And they fired a couple of his right-hand guys.
	Um, I think it was Dan Caldwell.
	He was on Tucker like two days ago.
	The guy is one of Pete Hexet's right-hand guys that were put at the Pentagon.
	They got rid of him and said that he was leaking information, but there's no proof of him leaking any information.
	So basically, man, yeah, like the Zionists know that, because here's the thing, too, that they did.
	I got to give them credit.
	They got Bashar LaSad out of there.
	Like, they had him running to Russia.
	Like, that's a huge W for them.
	That's why his bull is going to stay weak for years now because they can't get replenished.
	So, you know, plus they did the Pager attack.
	Like, Israel's been throwing down some fucking hardcore W's in the most fucked up ways.
	Like, from how, like, let's be real.
	Let's just, like, we're on, we're on Myron's show right now.
	Like, let's be real.
	They fucking orchestrated October 7th.
	They didn't, like, they weren't Hamas themselves, but they 100% had surveillance on that plan as it emerged.
	They might, like, it's, I would not be surprised if they hadn't created the opening or given the intelligence or fed the idea, whatever it was.
	I'll give you something right here.
	So, check this out: the day after October 7th happens, the Egyptians go out and publicly say that we warned the Israelis that this was going to happen.
	Egyptians said that.
	And the reason why is because Egypt is cucked by America.
	We give them a bunch of aid.
	And if they don't play nice, they don't get money.
	So as soon as this shit happened, they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Stop the phone.
	We tried.
	We tried.
	We told them.
	They didn't heed the advice.
	We did what we were supposed to do.
	And that reporting got fucking buried, dude.
	It did.
	So fast.
	Because clearly, the fucking, like, come on.
	Israel is a surveillance state.
	Everyone in fucking Israel is IDF.
	Like, it's mandatory service.
	There's an M16 in like every other fucking house.
	And I'm being facetious, but like, that is heavily surveilled.
	Like, they fucking know what's going on over there.
	You're not flying hang gliders over that fucking border with no one.
	Like, I did the math, and the amount of time it took them to respond is like, like, you and I could have run from fucking Tel Aviv to the front lines faster than their fucking response happened.
	And then when the response did happen, they bombed their own people with their, they didn't bomb.
	They rocketed their own people with their fucking helicopters.
	And so it's like they pulled off this incredibly awful, horrible thing, but they pulled it off with October 7th and the following devastation of Gaza, which they've been planning for a long time.
	They've been salivating over that for fucking ever.
	Like Israel, to their credit, has been killing the game at killing people for the last several years.
	I gave them credit.
	Where credit is due.
	Yeah, I gave them credit too.
	Look, I could oppose Israel and dislike them, but I got to admit that Pedro attack was probably one of the best run intelligence operations I've seen in my life ever.
	Like tragic and super fucked up and a bunch of war crimes, if you really think about it, but like really well executed.
	Crazy.
	And you know, especially the New York Times reported that those bombs had been in those devices for 10 years.
	Exactly.
	Because at first, I think a lot of the conspiracy theorists at first were like, oh, they hacked them.
	That's not what happened at fucking all.
	They manufactured them with tiny little bombs in them and then sat on it and waited on it for fucking ever.
	Like that was incredible.
	And you know that they pulled the trigger on it right then because they needed to create the chaos and they were about to pull the trigger on going after Assad.
	Like this is like coordinated step-by-step work and they're and Iran is their next target and it's building up to going after Iran.
	And now they are trying their hardest to pull that fucking trigger.
	And so I'm like worried that it is now false flag season.
	Like it is now Iranian false flag, probably micro-nuclear attack on the United States homeland.
	That is what I am worried about right now because that's how you would get America to support a war in Iran.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	You would need it.
	You need a new 9-11.
	You need to be bigger.
	You need to be like, or at least just as bad.
	And you need to be something new.
	It obviously can't be planes fucking flying into buildings all over again.
	Yeah.
	It's wild, man.
	And to see this all kind of playing out in the social media world, because unlike with 9-11, we didn't have social media to be able to talk about this stuff real time as it's happening.
	Now, we've made it a lot harder for the mainstream media to kind of take the narrative and say, we need to go to Iraq and stop these guys.
	Now we're able to actually like question like, hold on one second.
	We don't know about this one.
	This is a false flag or whatever.
	And we're able to, you know, create quite a bit of a dissident audience and not keep people from being brainwashed by the mainstream media because they don't have the same monopoly they did 20 years ago with 9-11.
	Like people forget that people actually supported the Iraq war in the beginning.
	For real.
	People like Tucker did, right?
	Like all kinds of fucking people did.
	Like, and they, to be fair, like, they were fucking smart.
	And not only did they pull off 9-11, more or less, but they also pulled off the anthrax attacks.
	Yeah.
	And the anthrax attacks were fucking total bullshit.
	Like, the anthrax was traced back to a CIA lab eventually.
	It was CIA fucking anthrax.
	It was like, once you had all the facts, it was obvious what had happened.
	But they just needed to be convincing enough for like that month to get Colin Powell to go out and parrot what Condoleezza Rice had been saying and like to get just that, you know, those couple of sound bites and to link it to Saddam and then boom.
	Yeah.
	Same with October 7th.
	They needed that outrage with the beheaded babies and the babies in the oven.
	But they could go ahead.
	Even if it's like, okay, we just need it for two weeks so that we can justify going in.
	Once they get in, they're not leaving.
	So that's crazy, dude.
	I'm sure you probably saw this.
	Like Yoev Galant went on Israeli media and admitted that they implemented the fucking animal directive, bro.
	He admitted it on TV.
	Right?
	But obviously they buried it.
	You can't find it in American media.
	But if you look at Israeli media, he goes on there and he says, because he got fired, that we implemented it and we should have implemented it in other areas more.
	So dude, like literally admitting, yeah, we killed our own people in the kibbutz.
	We murdered Israelis, right?
	This is like, that's wild too.
	And they turned down multiple peace deals where Hamas offered all the hostages back for peace in like the first month.
	Because I would, I'm just assuming.
	This is my interpretation.
	October 10th, bro.
	October 10th, they gave the offer.
	Exactly.
	And I assume that those were, Hamas was thinking, we're going to do this attack to make a statement and we're going to take hostages so that we can then exchange them back in exchange for a peace deal so that we don't get invaded.
	And I think that they were fooled into thinking that that was going to fucking work.
	And clearly that was never the plan.
	And Israel was not about to have that because, you know, they turned down that hostage deal so fucking fast and buried that and switched it to like, wow, like, what would you do if it was your fucking family?
	It's like, yeah, bro, like, whatever.
	And I'll tell you this, for the people that like say, oh, that's, that's propaganda or whatever, it was reported by Horetz.
	And the person that reported this was basically, there was this guy that represented all the families.
	So he would basically talk to the Israeli government on behalf of the families.
	So he represented them.
	So he was the one that reported that Hamas had put a deal.
	He found out later on that Hamas had put a deal together for the hostages to be returned on the 10th in exchange for the idea of not invading Gaza.
	And they said, no, we're going to go in anyway.
	And this comes from the Israeli reporting has been so critical to understanding it all.
	Like Israeli news has actually been the one that has broken most of these stories.
	It's the one that's reported most of these facts.
	And almost everything we've talked about today, even some of the 9-11 stuff, you can find in the Israeli media, which is wild.
	Like straight up to the fucking dancing Israelis admitting on Israeli TV that they were there to document the attacks, which is like so fucking crazy.
	Insane, man.
	And man, if you could get that video footage, so they like the dancing Israelis, they had a video camera that they were seen with that never got found.
	They were found with the photos because the photos, I think, were their personal memorabilia.
	But if you read through the files, it's clear that the van that had the video camera, it made a stop where some people got out and they had a meeting at like a cafe or something and a person got into the van or two and there was like a dude with some skis in the van and it's very weird reporting, but it's very clear that the van made a stop and people changed who was there.
	And I think that's where they passed off the video camera to their boss or their handler.
	And then they were on their way out.
	And that's when they got stopped and they still had the photos in the van and there was explosive residue.
	And I think that van, it might have been a different van.
	And so that's why we only have photos, but we don't have the video footage of the videos that they took.
	And I think, because the thing is that photos have no audio, but if you had the video footage that they had recorded that day, I think you would have audio of them giving away the fact that they knew it was happening and giving away the fact of like it, like what's going on here.
	And that's like why they had to be let go.
	And that's why no one ever like found that video camera and why it got covered up so hard because that video, I think, would be the smoking gun.
	Yeah.
	And the owner of Urban Moving, this guy named Dominic Souter, he just fled.
	He disappeared so fucking fast.
	He just fled, dude, after they did the search warrant.
	And, you know, I really hope they declassify this stuff one day because what I want to look at, and I think for everyone out there, if you guys really want to get 9-11 broken open, I think what will give us the most information is the FBI did a search warrant on urban moving systems.
	I want the affidavit that the agents wrote to get the probable cause to go into that business.
	And the reason why is when you write federal search warrants, it has to be extremely detailed as to why you're searching it.
	What makes you think that there's going to be evidence there?
	What evidence are you looking for, et cetera?
	In that document is going to have an enormous amount of probable cause to justify them doing a search warrant at that place.
	And it's going to have to be based on terrorism more than likely.
	So the fact that, you know, that affidavit isn't out there when we know that they did an official search warrant there.
	That's what I want to read.
	Because that's going to have an enormous amount of detail because you need a lot of PC to search someone's house or place of business or whatever.
	Place of business.
	That's why I love talking to you, dude.
	Because A, you're not afraid to fucking go where you're going to go and say what you're going to say.
	But also your experience with law enforcement and with the system is actually, and it catches people off guard.
	And it's so fucking funny when someone doesn't know who you are and they'll like debate you in a space and then realize that you're like from this world and you actually know what you're fucking talking about when it comes to these documents and shit.
	And it just like blows their brains out and they don't know what to do about it because that's like a level of expertise that you don't even get as a researcher unless you spend years and years and years doing this shit is like just knowing what documents to look for, knowing what they look like and knowing how you fill them out and knowing what's going to be in them.
	And you're totally right.
	I appreciate that, man.
	Yeah, it's funny because they think I just yell at 304s, but like, you know, the people that really know me, like you and stuff, like you guys know what I used to do.
	So yeah, but I think that affidavit, dude, is going to be a gold mine, man.
	Like that's just going to have so much information because he's going to have to justify it to a judge.
	And they had to, and the other thing, too, they got it quickly.
	So they had to get it quickly.
	So they had to put in really good probable costs to get it signed that fast.
	So that's going to be a good idea.
	So another thing that's in that in those documents that I'd be curious for your take on is when you read the documents, it's like a series of reports.
	And some of it is like at the moment as it's happening.
	Some of it is a like summary of what had happened.
	And then one like 70 days later, whenever the Israelis got deported, there was a short document that sort of explained like cases closed, Israelis are being transported back out.
	And it kind of alludes, you can kind of figure out who sort of quashed it and sort of shut it all down.
	But I wonder, like, is there, do you think there's likely documentation?
	Like the dude high up that comes in and says, we're closing this investigation down.
	We're all done.
	We're going to deport them.
	Did he have to, do you think that that guy has to like submit documentation?
	Or is there like a level of brass you can have where you can just walk in and say that we're shutting this down?
	Does he have to give reasons why?
	I can give you really detailed stuff on it.
	So let's go back, rewind a little bit.
	So back in 2001, there was no Homeland Security.
	There was, it was a Department of Justice.
	And underneath the Department of Justice, you had a service called the Immigration Naturalization Service.
	That was our INS.
	That is what ICE currently is today.
	So when the FBI grabbed these guys up, right, and they were, you know, talking to them or whatever, they didn't have probable cause to actually arrest them for crime.
	So what they ended up doing was putting them in immigration custody.
	So the whole time they were in INS custody.
	So, But at the time, also, INS was a part of the Department of Justice.
	There was no Homeland Security.
	Well, who ran the DOJ back then?
	It was a guy named Mike Chertoff.
	He ran the criminal division, and he's a hardcore Zionist in his mind.
	I'm pretty sure he's the guy I'm talking about.
	Yeah.
	I'd have to go back and look through, but I'm pretty sure he's the guy I'm talking about.
	He is the guy because he was the one that ran the criminal division of the Department of Justice.
	So basically, he was like the second or third in charge after the Attorney General.
	So he absolutely oversaw because he was over at both the FBI and INS.
	And what I think would also be interesting, there's a form.
	Now I'm really getting in the weeds here, but you've got my mind thinking.
	There's a form called the I-213.
	And the I-213, whenever you encounter illegal aliens or you're going through the deportation process, there's going to be a narrative of a 213.
	That would also be interesting as well to see what they put in that 213 as to why they're deporting them.
	Because they were legally in the country.
	So they had to go ahead and somehow go about removing their status some way.
	So that 213 would have a lot of different information as well.
	That might be easier to get because that stuff isn't classified.
	But yeah, Chertoff for sure oversaw that entire situation.
	Oh, dude, check his early life.
	Hey, check his photo on Wikipedia.
	Holy shit.
	But then when you check his early life, you read it.
	Michael Chertoff was born to Gershon Baruch Chertoff, a rabbi and Talmudic scholar who was the leader of Congregation B'nai Israel in Elizabeth, New Jersey.
	You want to share your screen?
	Yeah, dog.
	Let me give you, I'll give you a co-host right now.
	Give me one sec.
	Yeah, it's spicy.
	Yeah, I've looked into this guy.
	He's definitely, you know, you still see me?
	Yeah, I can see you.
	Cool.
	And you see just the Wikipedia article, right?
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	So early life.
	And Livia Chertoff, a Polish-born Israeli American who was the first flight attendant for El Al.
	His paternal grandparents are Paul Chertoff, a rabbi and professor of Talmud, and Esther Barris Chertoff.
	He attended Jewish Educational Center, graduated from Harvard, shocker.
	So it's like, that's a heck of a family to come from.
	And for them to be Talmudic scholars is like, bro, what are we doing?
	And then you check his photo and it's just like, oh, yeah, you can't make it up, dude.
	Holy shit, dude.
	And then you wonder why, because everyone wondered, how the hell did these guys get deported after 70 days?
	Well, the guy that ran the DOJ, who was over the INS back then before Homeland Security, was this guy.
	And his mom also was an intelligence asset, one of the founding agents for Mossad, his mom, this guy, Chertoff.
	No shit.
	And this dude co-wrote the Patriot Act.
	Yep.
	Fucking crazy.
	And then he got a bunch of cushy fucking deals after he left the government.
	Worked for the CIA and then he went and worked for BAE is a military industrial complex.
	Probably got a really, yeah, chairman of BAE system.
	So he didn't have to do anything.
	He just got paid a bunch of money for free.
	Yep.
	And member of the Atlantic Council, Global Commission on the Stability of Cyberspace.
	Wow.
	Yeah, dude.
	And then went after the Trump administration.
	It's crazy that, you know, when you actually look at these guys and how they got released, because I'll tell you this, if those guys were like Muslims or whatever, there's no way they would have been released only after 70 days in immigration jobs.
	Exactly.
	They'd be in fucking Guantanamo Obey to this day, Ian.
	But the fact that those guys with or without cause.
	Exactly.
	Like, so it's, it's absolutely nuts.
	But yeah, I was like, like we're discussing before, Chertoff and then the FBI turned them over to INS and they were going there and interviewing them on multiple occasions.
	Give them polygraphs that they were failing.
	Yep.
	Shit like that.
	All that stuff, man.
	So 9-11, dude, you know, if me and you could see it in our lifetime, I'd be really happy.
	But dude, it's, you know, I don't know.
	I mean, the good thing, though, about 9-11 and Jeffrey Epstein is that they happened recently enough and in the age of the internet where enough came out onto the internet.
	And that's the thing that I think that they were not ready for.
	And same with right now around October 7th and around trying to get to a war with Iran is I think that these like the people orchestrating this bullshit, they are old.
	Like they're old motherfuckers and they don't understand the way that media can keep up with you.
	And so we've already got enough on the internet.
	And that's why everyone is slowly waking up to all this bullshit is because there's such a good argument with so much primary source data and evidence about 9-11 and about Epstein in particular.
	The JFK one is way more fuzzy and way more like you have to really dig into who was who and what was what and why were they there and all this crazy shit.
	And it's way harder still, even like the experts, a lot of them arrive at the idea that it was only the CIA or it was only the mafia or whatever, you know, it's like whatever.
	But these ones, it's like I've not heard a single expert take that has actually legitimately argued that 9-11 had no Israeli involvement because they just avoid the evidence and they can't talk about it.
	Same with Jeffrey Epstein.
	It's like even more obvious with Jeffrey Epstein because the whole fucking organization was Israeli and Jewish people straight up to fucking Ehud Barak.
	So it's like, like, it's just so obvious.
	And I think that their plans don't like account for how much freedom of information the internet allows and social media allows for us to have.
	Did you hear about the blackmail ring that was exposed in Italy at the end of last year, beginning of this year?
	Yes.
	And the president, like basically, she condemned Israel for that, right?
	The female Italian president?
	Well, a little bit, but it's even more obvious than that.
	It's like, so A, her government was probably in on it because the mafia was in on it and the Vatican was in on it, but it was an Israeli tech firm Paragon.
	Bro, you're the only by Ehud Barak.
	Dude, I thought like no one has ever heard this story.
	They literally buried this story.
	I'm shocked that you bring this up right now because I do remember at the end of the summer, them talking about this, saying like, hey, we caught these Israeli spies in Italy.
	The story got buried, bro.
	No one talked about it.
	It was so fucking fast.
	But the Italian press was still reporting on it.
	And there's a few, and actually, it's a few Israeli publications, mostly WyNet News, kept reporting on it.
	And it kept breaking more and more and more.
	So at first, it was just like, oh, this weird hacker.
	And it was actually a dude that had hacked the Pentagon with Anonymous that was now working in the Italian government, like theoretically for the Italian government, but he had been hacking into Italian government and just selling the services of Paragon, which is like the new, what was the P, the one that they used to chop up a non-Khashogi?
	The Saudis?
	When they killed them in Saudi Arabia.
	Yeah, what was the name of that hacking technology?
	I always forget it.
	I don't know the name, but I'm familiar with that.
	Slicing up Khashoggi.
	Those Saudis are fucking violent.
	NSO group invented Pegasus is what it was.
	But Paragon is like the new Pegasus.
	It's a zero-click, so they can just install it on your phone without you knowing, and it gives them access to your Telegram, your WhatsApp, and your signal.
	And so Mark Zuckerberg and Meta is actually suing over it.
	They're like threatening legal action.
	And when you dig it, and when they started to dig it open, that Paragon was founded by Ehud Barak and Ehud Schneerson, who was the X8200 commander.
	And it's a fucking Israeli tech company in the same mold where Israel exports their tech into the private sector.
	And then they just, and they literally caught Israeli spies, Mossad spies, going to this outfit and having secret communications with them and offering them like million dollar contracts for hacking certain things.
	And because they started hacking into WhatsApp, Zuckerberg got involved.
	And it all, it's like, you couldn't write it better.
	It's literally the Vatican, the Mafia, and the fucking Israeli intelligence services hacking for hire.
	And they'll sell these hacking services to anyone you want.
	And like, they know their prices.
	It's like 250 euros to hack a personal phone, tens of thousands of euros for a dossier on any specific individual you want.
	Dude.
	So it's like, it's still coming out.
	It's still just like Israeli hacking and blackmail schemes all over the fucking place.
	Yeah, people think that they only steal from us.
	Dude, they steal from everybody.
	They literally steal technology from everybody.
	They are by far like the best thefts of technology and military information in the country next to our stuff.
	They're real good.
	And they have to be because their military isn't as powerful, right?
	Like Unit 8200 is like their NSA equivalent.
	Like they have to be good at this stuff because they can't necessarily fight ground wars like other countries.
	So they have to rely a lot on their intelligence community to get things done behind the scenes.
	They have the most successful assassinations of any intelligence agency in the world.
	So it's just, you know, let me ask you this.
	So obviously I know you're a supporter of RFK.
	He's kind of backtracked on some of his views.
	I kind of, what are your thoughts on RFK?
	Well, we can start with his dad first.
	They declassified the RFK senior documents.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	And then obviously with.
	I haven't actually gotten to dig through them yet, but I presume that they confirm what we knew that it was not Sirhan Sirhan at all.
	Did they actually have any juicy stuff in there about who it might have been and like what actually happened to him?
	I haven't done a deep dive on it yet.
	I've been going through and looking.
	But yes, you know, it's confirming what we talked about.
	Exactly.
	There's a little bit more spotlight being put on Thane Eugene Caesar, the guy that was behind them.
	There is a spotlight now.
	I think the Normans are starting to finally figure out that Sirhan wasn't a shooter.
	Exactly, because we fucking knew that.
	And we had actually a fair bit of evidence already that Sirhan was the target of some sort of like weird hypnosis program or some fucking MK Ultra bullshit, which is crazy in and of itself.
	So like, yeah, the RFK senior story is big.
	And RFK Jr. had a solid take on it all along.
	And that was dope.
	But the issue with RFK is that he made a lot of fucking promises on the way in.
	Yeah.
	And they were great and all.
	But for a while, it was looking like he was backtracking on fucking all of them and instead calling anti-Semitism the greatest health crisis in America, which is so fucking retarded.
	Fortunately, he's actually been getting pretty fucking hard with it the last like couple weeks here.
	And he's going after vaccines in a bigger way now.
	He's talking a little bit more like cohesively about autism and about chemtrails and shit, geoengineering.
	He's even talking about Wi-Fi radiation and stuff that are kind of third rails that no one really talks about.
	But the big one is the shots.
	And the big one is COVID and COVID reconciliation.
	And so when, even though it's kind of just a formality, when I saw that the White House changed the whitehouse.gov slash COVID-19 webpage to like clearly implicate Anthony Fauci, to clearly implicate the lab leak, to clearly implicate the whole organization that like constructed it, created the virus, that they didn't go after the vaccines yet, but like that felt good.
	So I'm, I, I, people say that I waffle a lot that I change my opinions with the wind.
	And it's like, no shit, because I think that anyone that thinks they know everything is retarded.
	Like you're way too fucking self-confident if you think you know everything before it's even happened.
	And RFK is such a good example where there is lots of evidence and a lot of it, like a lot of the stuff that people like myself and Candace know about the blackmail angle of it.
	We purposely didn't talk about a lot of the details because I'm not trying to like break the blackmail in its entirety on the internet.
	Like I'm not trying to project out what everyone inside of his campaign is rumoring and talking about.
	And even some of the stuff that like is was coming out of that Jessica girl's mouth.
	Like just the fact that a lot of people around him have for a long time felt like there's this weird control system around him.
	He's a fucking Kennedy.
	Of course they're trying to blackmail him.
	And he's a sex addict and an ex-heroin addict.
	Like there's a lot to blackmail around him.
	And some of the stuff that I've heard is super like, like a bummer to hear, but none of it is kids.
	Like so far, I have not heard of him raping or having sex with any kids, just to clarify.
	But it's still a womanizer, basically, is what it comes down to.
	He's a chronic womanizer.
	And I've heard allegations or I've heard speculations that have like circumstantial evidence that are the kind of thing that could influence his behavior.
	Even if it's stuff that like we wouldn't care about, it's the kind of stuff that I would, I think that it would influence Bobby's behavior because he just wouldn't want it out.
	But so it's like, I'm just watching what he's doing and trying to gauge like, and I purposely broke it the way I did because I was down with taking a little bit of a credibility hit because I wanted to project A, to show RFK that the whole world was like, we don't fucking care.
	Like no one fucking cares.
	Just take on the vaccines.
	Just do what you came here to do.
	Just be real, dog.
	Like we don't give a fuck about your transgressions.
	But B, also to sort of fire a little bit of a warning shot that like the media is like we alternative media are onto this story and we are on to the fact that it's not like it's not RFK like yeah he's a piece of shit if he's doing these things but at the same time like we're on to the people that are onto him so to speak um and to just sort of like clear the air because everyone in maha was already thinking it and i was like i don't care if like i don't have access to him i don't care if i lose it whatever like i'll just say it um and and so i i'm still waiting to see what
	does but i i know that whether he's compromised or not whether he's like perfect or not he's fighting against the biggest fucking industries in our world he's fighting against the pharma he's fighting against the food the big ag he's fighting against the cia he's fighting against all this shit um and so i understand
	that it could take a long time he has to get his people in he has to like walk it you know slowly in in like small steps and ultimately we're not going to change the outcome of that at this point in a major way other than by supporting grassroots movements from the maha space supporting getting loud about that we want him to do stuff but it's not like we're going to change the fact if he's blackmailed or not it's like he's blackmailed or not if he's like you know shilling for israel because of some reason It's like, we're not going to fucking change that.
	We're just going to watch and see what happens.
	And we're going to learn from that about like in the future and what we might do next to try to get some fucking reconciliation around COVID because COVID is the biggest fucking health crisis that ever happened in the world.
	And not because it was like a fucking disease that killed people, but because they locked everyone down over a fucking virus, a bioweapon that they made, and then gave a bioweapon shot to everyone that they made that they knew was going to kill people.
	Like that was the real fucking problem.
	And so when he comes out talking about anti-Semitism, it's just like, dude, shut the fuck up, dog.
	Like, just like, get to the point.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's, you know, and the thing is, too, is like, I like RFK.
	I was actually really excited when they brought him on, right?
	Because he was like, you know, kind of, you know, an anti-establishment guy.
	But then he comes in, he kind of goes backwards on the vaccines and stuff.
	And I haven't been paying as much attention to him.
	I know you have, which is why I wanted to ask.
	So, so basically, he got off track and you're saying he got back on track now.
	He seems to be, yeah.
	And it seems like it's sort of he's getting a little bit better and a little bit better as he gets more of his people in.
	Okay.
	And he's starting to go after bigger and bigger issues a little bit more vocally each time as he gets sort of more of his team aligned, which makes perfect sense.
	That's totally understandable.
	And so I'm optimistic because that's the best way to be, but I'm very ready to be let down.
	Okay.
	Because like he's up against the biggest fucking, you know, scam in the world, the biggest industries in the world.
	And all those industries are plugged into like Lord knows what behind the scenes.
	So, you know, having him in, like, this is the same way I feel about Trump.
	It's like whether or not Trump makes good decisions or bad decisions, whether or not these guys are owned by Israel or not, whether or not they're like playing fucking 5D chess or we're getting played 5D, like there's this huge win of us just voting for them and saying that we all fucking want this because that changes all of the American mindset to say that like we want health.
	We want fucking accountability.
	We want our government to stop fucking us.
	We want to stop going to foreign wars.
	Right.
	And just us all knowing that we all voted for that and knowing that we all expect that, even if we get played by these two politicians, our power is growing for the next cycle and the next cycle and the next cycle because we're getting fake, we're getting setting up precedence.
	I see exactly.
	And watching, for example, if we watch like them just shill for Israel and like just do Israel's bidding for the next four years, yeah, that's an L. But at the same time, that's a W for the media and that's a W for people waking up.
	And that will just be even more if we, if they manage to fucking take us to Iran and take us into war with Iran, the amount of waking up that is going to happen is going to be out of fucking control.
	So like every step back is also steps forwards and every step forward can sometimes feel like a step back.
	And the most important thing is that we're just paying attention and like staying loud and have freedom of speech to keep talking about it, right?
	Because that wakes people up.
	No, absolutely.
	Something that we didn't have with the Iraq war.
	If we had the social media presence that we had back in 2003, that Iraq war probably wouldn't have been as popular and been able to be facilitated the way that it was.
	I think it would have been shut down halfway through Afghanistan, dude.
	I agree.
	By the time we realized that we were literally like running the global opium trade out of Afghanistan for big pharma and starting the goddamn opium epidemic, like we would have never made it to Iraq.
	Yeah.
	And so with RFK, so he's getting back on track with the stuff.
	And you're saying that I've seen a lot of stuff about autism.
	Can you kind of explain to the audience real quick what's going on with this autism stuff?
	Yeah.
	So he's being thoughtful and careful, but he is starting to talk about investigating the causes of autism.
	And more people around him are starting to bring up the insane data and the terminology of an epidemic of autism.
	Because we like, like the numbers vary depending on which sources you use, but it's more or less, it's like we went from one in 10,000 people are autistic to one in 30 almost.
	It's like we're like one in 31 right now.
	Dude, as I've gotten older, like I remember growing up as a kid, no one had autism.
	No one.
	Now everyone has it.
	So it's like, what the hell is going on here?
	And there's this like erasure that's trying to happen where the mainstream is trying to erase it by saying like, oh no, it's like bigger, better diagnostics.
	And like now it's the spectrum.
	And so now there's Asperger's include and all this bullshit.
	It's like that does not fucking account for one in 10,000 to 1 in 32, not even close.
	And even if you, and you can like, there is data that breaks it down to severe autism versus minor autism and shit like that.
	And it's very clear that there is a crazy spike that's been happening over the last 20 years.
	And so then there's like this whole campaign where like Asperger's people were coming out and being like, I did this great thing with my life.
	Are you saying I can't do great things because I'm autistic?
	Are you hating autistic?
	It's like, shut the fuck up, bro.
	You know what you're doing.
	You're putting out propaganda and you're trying to pretend that autism is not an issue.
	Like autism is a huge issue.
	Severely autistic people are like, they smear shit on the walls and they bang their head into walls and they run away without with no warning, like just like book it.
	And so they need round the clock attention.
	And so we're talking like a trillion dollars of health care required as this population of autistic people ages up.
	Like there's no way we can support this at this current rate, let alone if it increases, right?
	And it's pretty obvious that it's coming from some of these fucking poisons.
	Probably from the vaccines, probably from some of the other poisons too.
	Maybe from like in the food, maybe from the fucking stuff they're spraying in the air.
	We don't really know, but it's pretty obvious vaccines are in there somewhere.
	So they're starting to talk a lot more just about studying the causes and doing gold standard like testing on the causes and just getting the conversation started.
	And the and the pushback is exactly what you would expect from the establishment to try to shut it up and to try to make it like go away and to try to smear it.
	And so that's telling me they're on the right track.
	And that's also telling me that they're earnest because they're getting that pushback, I hope.
	Yeah.
	So it'll be a while before we get those answers.
	It'll be, I mean, hopefully it's going to start this year, but because this whole autism thing, dude, like this is something that's like a phenomenon over the past like 10 or 15 years.
	Like, you know, I would say like since the 2010s, well, like it wasn't like that prevalent of a problem.
	So yeah, it could be something with the food, the vaccine, something in the past 20 to 30 years has changed significantly.
	And it's good that he's asking these questions.
	So as far as Dr. Fauci goes and COVID, because it's interesting because used to get banned for having this conversation that we're having right now.
	Oh, yeah.
	We're on YouTube still.
	We're still up, bro.
	We're still on somehow.
	So we can obviously talk about COVID now.
	And it's crazy how the Wuhan lab theory that was a conspiracy theory before is starting to get more lights and become a bit more legitimized.
	Do you think they're going to go after Fauci, bro?
	Because I think Biden.
	I mean, dude, they gave you part of it.
	I have not.
	Oh, bro, dude.
	I'm pretty sure that's a good question.
	You want to share it on screen?
	Whitehouse.gov slash because I think Biden gave him a pardon.
	And they actually have to search for it.
	But they actually point out that pardon on this official fucking.
	Oh, they talked about it.
	Oh.
	Oh, dude, check this out.
	Check this shit out.
	If you have not seen this yet, share this fucking screen.
	Okay, so this is official government website, whitehouse.gov slash origins.
	Holy shit.
	Lab leak, true origins of COVID-19.
	There's an official White House webpage.
	Wow.
	Lab leak.
	Trump at the top.
	The true origins of COVID-19.
	The origin.
	The virus possesses a biological characteristics that is not found in nature.
	Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans.
	This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillovers.
	So they're like sharing the evidence of why it was a lab leak, exactly what lab, Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers were sick with COVID-19-like symptoms in the fall of 2019, months before COVID-19 was discovered in the wet market.
	All this shit.
	So they're like clearly laying out the whole thing with sources, with oversight reports, proximal origin publication, gain of function research, EcoHealth Alliance Inc., NIH failures.
	Like they fucking, under the leadership of Dr. Peter Dazak, used U.S. taxpayer dollars to facilitate dangerous gain of function research in Wuhan, China.
	Like they're fucking going hard.
	They point out the pardon of Anthony Fauci.
	What the?
	HS obstruction, eco-health obstruction, Dr. David Morins, New York obstruction.
	They like fucking go into it.
	World Health Organization, who they go after them.
	Social distancing, total bullshit.
	They say it right there.
	Mask mandates.
	There was no conclusive evidence that masks effectively protected Americans from COVID-19.
	Public health officials flip-flopped on the official efficacy of masks without providing American scientific data, causing a massive uptick in public distrust.
	That's true.
	Lockdowns.
	They break down the lockdowns and why that was all bullshit.
	New York pandemic failures.
	They point the finger directly at former New York governor Andrew Cuomo's March 25th order, which forced nursing homes to accept COVID-19 positive patients, was medical malpractice.
	And they go after him hard right there.
	COVID-19 misinformation.
	Public health officials often misled the American people through conflicting messaging, knee-jerk reactions, and a lack of transparency.
	Go hard.
	And then they publish this whole report, 557 pages down here.
	So that's like, that's badass, dude.
	And yeah, in some ways, it's like, it's like propaganda.
	Like it's, it's Trump like taking a huge W that was like just out there waiting for him.
	Yeah.
	And let's be clear, like Trump was fucking the daddy of the vaccine.
	Yeah, Operation Warspeed was his thing.
	Yeah.
	And like, you know, I hold my ear open to the sort of like, it's kind of like the Q crowd.
	It's like these deeper researchers, not like the hardcore cues, but like QSoft that they talk about how the FEMA camps were all set up and the plan was apparently to send fucking people that weren't vaccinated to FEMA camps and to basically like do concentration camps on people.
	And so Trump like allegedly like fast tracked the vaccines to undermine the FEMA camp plan.
	And I don't know how to like, I don't have the time to try to dig into the sourcing to like prove that, but I keep my ear open to it because I expect that we might get more evidence about that in the future if this is the direction that Trump is going with this thing.
	So this is a huge W in my mind.
	And this is not RFK doing this, but it's in the same direction, right?
	It's in this, it's in the direction of COVID accountability while RFK is talking about vaccine safety data and vaccine studies.
	And so like shit's getting done, which is exciting.
	And it's all of that was in the last couple of weeks here.
	I remember if you talked about Wuhan or China virus or eating bats or any of that other stuff, you would get, you know, in serious trouble on TikTok, on YouTube, any of these platforms.
	So is it bad theory correct then?
	So we know it's, it actually is from China and the Wuhan Institute.
	Yeah, it's a bat virus that was like tampered with.
	It was essentially a bioweapon.
	They were doing bioweapons research.
	Holy shit, man.
	Yeah.
	And there's, you can actually trace it.
	And Plandemic number two, I believe, the Plandemic documentary, number two, you can watch for free on plandemicmovie.com or whatever.
	They trace it all the way back into like a decade and more of actual like coronavirus industry as people were like patenting coronaviruses and experimenting on coronaviruses and all the people that were involved in all this research to make coronaviruses more deadly and more spreadable.
	And then at a certain point in, I think like 2015 or 2016, they started to get kind of cold feet because something changed in the legality and they were like, it's a little fucking hot to keep doing this research in the United States.
	We should probably move it overseas.
	And that's when they moved it to the Wuhan Institute because they wanted to do it overseas, out of sight, out of mind.
	And they had way more legal protection that way.
	And that's when that lab got set up.
	And that's when Peter Dazak and Equal Health Alliance got set up and went over there.
	And so it's pretty clear that it was like bioweapons research.
	And it's pretty clear that it was, I mean, this is still saying it was a lab leak.
	I am not convinced that it was accidental.
	Like, I mean, call me fucking crazy.
	Call me a conspiracy theorist.
	Maybe it was accidental.
	Totally understandable.
	But like the response and how much money was made off it and the vaccine and like the way it fit into the plan, like I cannot help but one wonder.
	It's like saying it was accidental is just like saying like Tower 7 collapsed because of fucking fires.
	It's like, eh, yeah, that does not quite track with the bigger picture of what was going on.
	So and I'll tell you this too.
	Jake had a guest on and they talked about the Mossad being involved with this program.
	So and I'll send it to you.
	It's like a peer-reviewed paper.
	I don't know if you heard about this.
	I don't think I've seen it.
	Okay, I'll send it to you on the side because the facts are a little fuzzy in my head, but I remember reading it.
	It's a peer-reviewed paper where they had the one of the earlier strains of the COVID-19 virus and they were working on it back since the 80s.
	I'll send you the peer-reviewed paper that discusses.
	I think you could probably make a whole video on it and do a really good job.
	They give some cool guests, man.
	Jake is killing it over there.
	Yeah.
	I'd start to go catch up with Jake again when I'm back in Vegas.
	Yeah.
	No, he had a very interesting guest that talked about that.
	I'll send it to you because I think you could actually make a really good deep dive.
	So how's TikTok?
	Are you still on TikTok?
	What's going on with there, man?
	He took over TikTok.
	Barely, bro.
	I was on my last strike for a while.
	They expire after a while.
	And now I don't have that notification anymore.
	But like, I hardly ever post there.
	I will usually film my videos in TikTok, download them, and then delete them off of TikTok because they're just fucking strike crazy.
	They are the most banny bullshit platform, fucking whiners.
	So I basically just post on X and Instagram, and then that goes to Facebook, which I don't even look at.
	And now I'm doing my YouTube pretty hard because YouTube seems to be wide open these days.
	Yeah.
	And that's just, that's sick.
	I'm with it.
	So TikTok is the fucking worst.
	And I still got my, literally, I've got my first account.
	It's about to hit 1.8 million followers on TikTok.
	So I just like to keep it there just to like, you know, rub it in everyone's faces on TikTok.
	And I hope I can keep it forever, but whatever, dude.
	I'm not stressed if it dies.
	But I don't even really check TikTok.
	They don't pay me any much anymore because I'm never posting and I don't get any views anymore.
	That's all good.
	TikTok is by far the worst.
	Like, dude, honestly, if TikTok got banned, I wouldn't even be mad.
	Like, it's, dude, it is the worst platform ever, man.
	It really is.
	I mean, we still have a lot of questions floating around.
	There was this time right before Trump got elected where they actually pushed the TikTok ban through like right before he got in.
	And then TikTok went down for like 12 hours.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	With no explanation.
	Then Trump came in and was like, well, reverse that shit.
	And it fucking turned back on.
	And I, I mean, there are some juicy conspiracy theories floating around about what happened during that 12 hours.
	Like, did you switch servers?
	Did you turn on a new system?
	Did you like bring in more surveillance?
	Like, I cannot help but wonder what's going on with it.
	They banned like watermelons in Free Palestine or from the, like, they banned a whole bunch of so fucking hard.
	And people still didn't work.
	They literally banned, you know, me and you know this, but like, dude, they banned TikTok because of Israel banned it.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	Jonathan Greenblatt leaked the so the head of the ADL, Jonathan Greenblatt, there was a leaked audio of him talking to his guys, being like, we have a quote, we have a major, major, major, major TikTok problem.
	Right.
	And there's this whole conversation in the background.
	And then they, they, when they were talking about trying to sell TikTok, the, the leading, one of the leading groups that was going to buy it was Steve Mnuchin, which is like, you know, a Jewish billionaire, maybe multi-millionaire, um, that was getting like his buddies from Israel and his buddies from like the like the Jewish Trump networks and it was just a whole bunch of like Jewish people that they were gonna buy TikTok up and it like fortunately that didn't happen but um it was clearly Israel it was clearly the Palestinian thing and
	And the thing about TikTok is like the youth don't fuck with censorship.
	And so when they tried to first they like were censoring like from the river to the sea and like explicit support of Palestine and Gaza, which is already kind of fucked up because like Israelis could be on there talking shit all day long.
	Yeah.
	But then that wasn't enough because people started to make code words.
	This is what you were just alluding to is people started to sort of like get around it a little bit and they started to censor more and more and more.
	So eventually people turn the watermelon emoji because of the colors into the symbol for Palestine.
	And they would just post watermelon emoji in place of the word.
	Yep.
	They fucking banned the watermelon emoji.
	Yeah.
	And they even banned the word watermelon.
	They would take you down for saying watermelon.
	And so it's like and the youth just saw that shit.
	Young people just did not fuck with it.
	And so it actually just made them even more sure they were right and made them even more anti-Israel.
	So it's like and then you get the Coachella thing where like Coachella went all crazy because the band posted fuck Israel free Palestine.
	Yeah.
	And like the world lost their mind.
	And then like that band's fucking concerts sold out.
	Their whole tour just sold out right away.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	No, man.
	It's people are getting that information out there.
	I will say that.
	Did you ever do a deep dive on the Oklahoma City bombing?
	We just hit like 30 years.
	I didn't.
	I've never done a deep dive on Oklahoma.
	No, man.
	I did a thing on it, man.
	I think you should definitely do look into it as well since it just hit the 30 year anniversary.
	There's some juice at the bottom of that squeeze.
	There is, man.
	There is.
	I think you could definitely look at it and I think it would be good for you because basically, long story short, Timothy McVeigh, there was two people that rented the rider truck that they used where they had the explosives in it.
	And they drew sketches and witnesses saw two people.
	The other guy that was with him, the other suspect, they never actually arrested him, but they have an idea that he was a German guy who used to be a part of the German military.
	And he got basically removed from the United States by a CIA pilot.
	Could you not?
	Interesting.
	The guy never got arrested.
	Nothing ever happened.
	He was pretending to be like a white supremacist living in somewhere in down south.
	This was in Texas or where?
	I forget what what what state it was or Oklahoma.
	El home or something like that.
	But the point is.
	And then he like befriended Timothy McVeigh and like.
	Yes.
	Co plotted it with them.
	Exactly.
	Yep.
	That's some patsy shit.
	Yeah, dude.
	Like the guy and the FBI never.
	Let's go bomb this building together.
	Peace.
	Yeah.
	He's just like he's gone.
	Like the FBI never arrested him.
	They arrested the two other conspirators.
	One guy testified, but they never got this German guy that was involved as well.
	And Timothy McVeigh had called them prior to like a week or so before the bombing, presumably to maybe stay there while he hides out.
	So, yeah, there's a bunch of smoke there that I think that you would you would enjoy.
	And I'll definitely send you the COVID one too that you can look into, do a deep dive on it.
	But pretty, pretty crazy stuff, man.
	Because Timothy, the, you know, a lot of people don't talk about the Oklahoma City bombing much.
	It was the most destructive domestic terrorist attack ever.
	You know, it's still 9-11, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, it was for domestic, it's still number one.
	Because they consider they consider 9-11 a foreign terror.
	It's a foreign terror attack.
	Yeah.
	So for a domestic attack.
	Well, what about the, did they separate that from the Las Vegas shooting?
	Okay, you know what?
	Let's talk about the Las Vegas shoot.
	I was just researching this yesterday, right?
	As you were recording your videos.
	Dude, the Las Vegas one, there's so many.
	I'll let you just take it away because I covered the official narrative with Steven Paddock.
	You know, some real estate guy randomly goes to Mandalay Bay, has a bunch of guns and just shooting down on people.
	But there's so many other different theories on the Vegas thing, man.
	I know you studied this quite a bit.
	If you want to kind of, you can take it away.
	Yeah, I'm trying to see if I can pull up the map.
	It almost looks like the map got taken down.
	There was a Google map that someone made that had all this primary source fucking information on it.
	They had like 911 calls, the videos.
	And now it's not, it's not pulling up now that I'm looking for it.
	I'm going to have to check through my notes and see if it's still there.
	But basically, oh, fuck, I'm going to forget the dude's name that is such an asshole, but he's totally the number one source to go to about it.
	There's a girl to talk to.
	There's a girl.
	Remember when we were at Amfest?
	So that's Mindy, Mindy Robinson.
	There we go.
	She's done a great documentary on Rumble about it.
	But then this dude, John, I'm going to forget his name.
	He fucking hates her.
	He hates her so much.
	He accuses her of stealing all of his shit.
	And he's like, he's like a little spectrum, self-admitted.
	And he's like kind of an asshole to anyone and everyone sometimes.
	But he's a great researcher.
	And he's like fucking so deep down that rabbit hole.
	He has this whole YouTube channel filled with really long videos that have tidbits of really good information in them.
	And he is the guy that has put together the sort of the most of like the backstory of what really happened.
	I'm just going to give myself one second to see if I can find him.
	Yeah, no worries, man.
	If you want, I can even read sex.
	I bet that chat knows who I'm talking about.
	I can actually him and Jay.
	Oh, there he is.
	Boom.
	His YouTube channel is John E. Hoover, but his actual name is John Cullen.
	And most of what I know about it comes from him and Mindy and then my own kind of research afterwards.
	But the short version is what it looks like.
	And people should do their own research because this is just kind of my interpretation of what I've learned.
	Yeah.
	Give him a summary.
	Because a lot of people haven't like the Vegas shooter is like kind of been censored and no one talks about it, even though it's like the most deadly mass shooting in American history.
	Super big time.
	You know, what, like hundreds of people were killed?
	I think it's still the number one mass shooter.
	Yeah.
	You know, so yeah, give the people, because I've covered the official narrative pretty much.
	The official narrative guy, some guy named Samuel.
	And the official narrative is retarded because A, the window in that apartment was not broken when the fucking cops entered.
	And B, they said he shot all these people with bump stocks on his fucking AR-14s.
	That is not how AR-14s work.
	You can watch the videos and listen to the gunfire and you know that that is a belt-fed machine gun.
	That is not an AR-14 with a bump stock.
	AR-14s with bump stocks, like A, they malfunction.
	B, you reload.
	C, like all the other weapons in the room.
	That's not what was going on.
	And basically the narrative that John has put together with lots of documentation and sources is that it sounds like Steven Paddock was like a private gun collector that would sometimes sell some weapons and stuff that got honeypotted by three hot chicks in a Vegas lobby that were like, hey, we know a billionaire and he wants to shoot some guns and buy some guns.
	Do you want to sell him some guns?
	And he was like, yeah, totally.
	And they all checked into the hotel and those three women's names were on the hotel room.
	And so he had brought all those guns up to the hotel room because he was thinking that the next day he was taking this billionaire out into the desert in order to take him shooting and sell him all these guns.
	And he had all these guns, including a bunch of AK-47s that were missing from the fucking room when everyone showed up.
	Because John's theory is that the door, that door opened up on him early in that night and they shot him right then, right then in the chest, killed him.
	And he was dead the entire time the shooting was happening is John's theory.
	And I think he's pretty on point with it.
	There's two different color bloodstains underneath his body, one that was fresh and one that was dark.
	And there's a whole bunch of AK-47 magazines with no AK-47s in the room indicating that whoever shot him took a bunch of AK-47s out of the room with them.
	And then that's what they took to go and do what the actual operation.
	He suspects, and I suspect with him, that it was an attempt to kill Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, who had been invited there by his brother, Al-Waleed bin Talal, I believe is his name.
	And it's like this whole Saudi Arabian royal family, like inner like family coup, because the old guard that had been allied with Israel for a long time, that was super like hardcore, they were not down with bin Salman being like, he's throwing music festivals.
	He's like trying to let women dress how they want.
	He's trying to like modernize Saudi Arabia.
	The old school was fucking not down.
	And so he had been invited by his brother who owned this whole, he owns, he owned a controlling stake in the four seasons, I'm pretty sure, is the hotel that is in that, like these six floors near the top of Mandalay Bay.
	It's a different hotel in that top band.
	And he owned like these penthouse suites and he had invited bin Salman there to go there.
	And John suspects, and I don't remember how much evidence he has.
	He suspects that bin Salman invited Jared Kushner and Ivanka to come and celebrate Passover because it's also a Muslim holiday and a Jewish holiday that time when they were there.
	He suspects he invited them to that suite with them to celebrate because they're like, you can bring your Jewish kids and there's literally a Sphinx right outside of the fucking window.
	And we can tell them the story of Passover, which is about like the Jews fleeing from it from Egypt and all this shit.
	He suspects that they were there and that this was an attack on bin Salman and Jared and Ivanka got caught up in the crossfire.
	And that is why this whole political thing is still covered up.
	Because whatever the fuck happened with the shooting, there were helicopters in the sky that were not, that had their transponders turned off.
	And you can see them in the videos if you look carefully.
	You can see them on the flight maps where they come over, they turn their transponders off, and then they turn their transponders back on somewhere else during the shooting.
	There's like somewhere, I forget how many.
	It's like somewhere between five and ten helicopters or something.
	There's all this deep digging.
	Like this dude literally tracked down what kind of helicopters they probably were, who was training with them.
	They like all this crazy shit.
	And Dan Bilzeran was there.
	He confirmed that.
	Dan Bilzerian was there.
	Yeah.
	And he was in the crowd.
	He was in the crowd.
	And I know he was there.
	He saw the helicopters too, right?
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	And I've spoken to him about his suspicions about the belt-fed machine guns.
	He has his own theories about what happened.
	And it's like you get a certain level of information from being on the ground.
	You get different information from looking at the evidence from afar.
	Of course.
	When you kind of triangulate it all, A, there's fucking like guns were found in the streets far away from the shooting.
	There was sightings of people running around with guns far away from the shooting.
	And the official narrative is that it was just the one crazy guy up in the window shooting through the window that wasn't actually broken.
	So clearly the official narrative is retarded and not real.
	And B, they're like when people started to look at the autopsies and the angles of the shots that killed people, and some people were killed from straight down from above shots through the head.
	So it's like that can only happen if the shooter's straight above them, not if the dude's way off in this window.
	Like people were killed from shots from all these different angles.
	Many people were killed from shots straight from above, basically.
	And I'm not like the one piece that does not make sense to me is the Saudi angle makes a lot of sense because the Saudi purge happened right afterwards where Bin Salman arrested like his whole fucking family.
	He seized all of Al-Waleed's assets.
	This whole thing, Trump got taken.
	He went to Saudi Arabia and got this royal welcome, all this shit.
	Jared Kushner started doing a whole bunch of business with bin Salman right after that.
	That all makes sense.
	What doesn't really line up for me is why are you shooting all the people at the concert if you're trying to assassinate bin Salman?
	And it's, it's like most people's theories are a mixture of they were, they needed a distraction to like initiate the evacuation protocols so you could like kill them in the evacuation is a much cleaner way to do it.
	And they were trying to shoot, this is a theory.
	There were bullet holes in a giant fuel tank across the way at the like little helicopter base across the street.
	And it didn't rupture because it's like this giant fucking steel tank.
	So it like John's theory is that they were trying to blow up those fuel tanks to make a big explosion to trigger this evacuation.
	That didn't work.
	So they were like, fuck it.
	Just start shooting all those infidels at that concert.
	That doesn't really track with me because all the helicopters were in the sky.
	Like, I don't know.
	It is understandable that if you're like a fundamentalist, like Muslim that's like here to fucking assassinate your brother, I can get how that dude would just be like, kill the infidels, and that'll fucking trigger the evacuation.
	Yeah.
	I don't really know what's what's there, but I know that the mainstream story is not real.
	And I know that the like Trump family and like bin Salman connections and been like the Saudi purge that happened that year right afterwards, that seems deeply related.
	And I think that explains why it's so secretive and covered up to this day, because it's still affecting the geopolitical relationships of Israel, Saudi Arabia, and America to this day, I believe.
	Holy shit.
	So, okay, let me try to summarize all that real quick.
	So, and tell me if I'm wrong or right here.
	So, basically, what you've been able to kind of decipher from looking at different points, speaking to different people, knowing that Fisher Need, whatever, Steven Paddock, the accused shooter.
	basically was there to conduct a gun deal and or meet some billionaire thanks to three girls that kind of set it up.
	He's actually a Patsy.
	So he's a Patsy because I remember looking at the footage.
	He had been stockpiling these guns there for a couple of days.
	Yeah, they were all in the hotel room for a couple of days.
	So he goes in, brings all these guns or whatever over a couple of days.
	Girls are also in this hotel with him.
	At some point, he gets killed.
	AK-47s go missing.
	His body's just there in the room.
	It had been dead prior to the shooting even happening.
	And you're saying that this all coincided with MBS being in Las Vegas at the same time.
	And then putting it in the middle of the day in that exact hotel building several floors above in the upper floors.
	Gotcha.
	And then some sort of, and then he was evacuated somewhere during the whole craziness.
	So the goal was to get him out somehow with the mass evacuation and potentially try to get rid of him in that process.
	So this was all kind of like an elaborate scheme to assassinate MBS because of his modernization attempts of Saudi Arabia.
	And probably to cover up the fact that his brother had been behind it.
	Because in order to orchestrate it, like orchestrating an assassination of someone that high up is quite difficult.
	And so you kind of need to have a controlled environment, right?
	Where you know they're going to be there and you can plan it out in advance.
	So the invitation of his brother to get there is a great way to have the controlled environment.
	The problem is, A, you're on American soil now.
	That's sketchy.
	But B, your brother invited you there.
	So you need to kind of cover up the fact that your brother invited you there.
	And so having some reason to evacuate and trying to like, you know, you're trying to get him out and then something crazy happens, that kind of tracks in my mind theoretically of a way that you could cover up your brother's involvement because you don't want to have, you're like, you know, if you're a Saudi prince, you don't want to openly assassinate the crown prince.
	You want to kind of like, whoopsies, he's dead, right?
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	That's the theory.
	And I do know that when MBS got power, it did create some controversy.
	So that does make sense.
	There was a motive there.
	There was a huge changing of the guard and it changes.
	It changed their relationship with Israel.
	It changed their relationship with Trump.
	It changed the relationship with their own oil and what they're doing with their future.
	It changed all of Saudi Arabia.
	So, and to be clear, like MBS had already been chosen as the crown prince, and that had created a lot of like ripples in the family.
	And that's what was pissing them off so much.
	So I like the theory that I kind of subscribe to is that that choosing of MBS made the old school folk, like the old guard, the hardcore, like traditional Muslim people there, they were fucking pissed.
	And I think it sounds like they were probably plotting something.
	And this is the plot they came up with.
	Gotcha.
	Wow.
	So an elaborate scheme utilizing the cover of a mass shooting to assassinate basically a more secular royal family member that was going to take the reins of leadership in Saudi Arabia.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	And the theory, if you kind of walk it forwards, it's that A, Jared and Ivanka were involved in that and could have died.
	And if you notice, Ivanka fucking exited politics after that.
	She used to be like the golden child that was in front of the cameras that was totally being groomed to be Trump's successor.
	Kushner too.
	You don't see him either.
	Bingo.
	They fucking disappeared.
	Like never again were they involved in politics after that.
	And theoretically, because this was during Trump's presidency.
	And so in theory, there was probably some involvement of Trump sort of helping MBS because his fucking daughter was there, that that creates this bond of friendship between Kushner and Ivanka and MBS, but also between Trump and MBS.
	And so when you look at like how Trump was received when he went to Saudi Arabia, that kind of, it kind of plays that same, that same theory out a little bit.
	Man, incredible.
	Because I'll tell you this, dude.
	And I'm assuming both the Colin guy you mentioned and the girl Tiffany, do they both kind of talk on this angle with that with the soul?
	Colin and Mindy both take similar angles on this.
	Mindy does not go as hard on the Saudi angles, but when I asked her about it, if I remember correctly, and I hope I am, she told me that she didn't go into that in the documentary, A, because there wasn't as much like hard proof of it.
	And so it was like, it's a lot of speculation.
	You really have to like tie a lot of shit together.
	The documentary was already like an hour and a half.
	And B, she had already put together such a solid like compot compilation of the evidence.
	And it's called, it's a documentary on Rumble called Route 81, right?
	What's the name of the?
	Route 81 or Route 91 or something like that.
	Route 91, right?
	Let me just look it up real quick to make sure we're getting it right because people should watch it.
	They should go and watch.
	Yeah, Route 91, The Uncovering, Uncovering the Cover Up of the Country Music Concert Mass Shooting in Las Vegas, Nevada.
	And that's a great documentary that Mindy narrated.
	And it's like, you know, it's got lots of primary sources.
	But then John Cullen is the source of a lot of that data and information.
	And he has a lot more.
	He's just a lot to handle.
	And he's got so much fucking content about it that it's hard to dig through and actually get to the bottom of it.
	But he's also a great source if you want to get real fucking deep on it and get to like how it all came together.
	And they do both talk on the similar angles.
	And John is just the kind of guy that has fucking huge beef with people.
	He like came at me so fucking hard.
	He was like ready to try to burn me down because like I talked about it on a podcast.
	I'm like, calm down, bro.
	Bro, people should be happy.
	It's like, I'm not going to hate on him.
	People should be happy if you fucking mention their shit, man.
	It's like ungrateful, man.
	It's like, dude.
	I mean, John is just, he's like an abrasive individual, but like, I kind of love that about him because he's fucking, he's hilarious and he's the shit.
	And he's a great researcher.
	So I'm not going to knock him on that.
	And he contributed, like, he's the reason why we know like 70 to 90% of that shit.
	So like, huge shout out to John for that.
	Definitely go check out John Cullen on Instagram or on Instagram.
	Look at you, bro.
	Such a nice guy.
	Still shout him out, even though he fucking attacks you.
	I don't know how anyone could dislike this guy, man.
	Ian's like the nicest guy I know.
	Dude, it's just like, aside from it being like the right moral stance to take in life to just be kind to people, it's also the right fucking business move.
	Like make friends, not enemies.
	Like the only people you want to make enemies with are the people that are like objectively wrong about fucking everything that are probably paid by governments.
	Like Ben Shapiro, I'll fucking beef with him all day long.
	But like most other people, it's like, dude, just be friends with people.
	And Ian, and that is, that is why, my friend, I always defend you and I always support you because, you know, I remember before you blew up, I remember before all this stuff.
	And like when people talk poorly on you, I'm like, bro, it's one of the fucking nicest guys I know.
	He gives everyone credit.
	You didn't have to shout out Whitney Webb.
	You don't have to shout out Ryan Dawson.
	You don't have to shout out these guys.
	We get on these big platforms and you always pay respects to people that gave you the information, which is something I've always admired and respected about you.
	And that's why I wish you way more success and will defend you to the end, my friend, because it pisses me off when people talk shit.
	He's not going hard enough.
	Shut the fuck up.
	He's on Joe Rogan talking about the dancing Israelis.
	You fucking retard.
	People don't understand how monumental that is.
	Like talking about this stuff on a platform that big.
	Like, dude, this is shit that a lot of these guys that have been like talking about, you know, overrepresentation of them boys and certain structures, they've been at this for 10, 20, 30 years, dude.
	They've been banned.
	They've been censored.
	They haven't been able to get a fraction of the awakening that guys like you and Candace Owens and Dan Bilzerian and other other voices.
	You know, I'm doing my part as well.
	But when you guys go on like these big platforms to talk about this shit, dude, like that is huge.
	Who cares who puts out the information?
	All that matters is the information gets put out there.
	Because I've always said this.
	If someone like you goes on Jerry or Dave Smith or whatever, right?
	And you guys talk about the clean break memo, dancing Israelis, whatever.
	Here's what's going to happen.
	People are going to listen to it.
	That's interesting.
	Google it.
	As they Google it and they research it, they're going to find me.
	They're going to find Nick Fuetz.
	They're going to find Candace Owens.
	They're going to find Dan Bilzerian.
	Like, there's only like maybe 10 or 20 guys that really are on this.
	So like they will eventually find the source of the information.
	So people should be excited when these topics are brought up because it's inevitable that you're going to get found to some degree.
	So rising tide raises all boats, bro.
	Especially on this topic, dude.
	Like we, we almost kind of have to decentralize it because if all comes from one person, it's easy for them to ban one person, right?
	Bingo.
	Because it used to be like you talk about this stuff, ADL targets you, as you know, the SPLC, all these, whatever, these censor organizations, media matters, they target you and they bam, take you down immediately.
	And then you're shut down, no one else.
	But if there's like 10, 20, 30 prominent voices talking about the same stuff, guess what?
	Now they can't ban you.
	That's why October 7th was so critical.
	Not good as horrible because people lost their lives.
	But I mean, as in, like, as far as like having this discussion, because it woke a lot of people up.
	Too many people came out saying the same thing.
	So the ADL and Jonathan Greenblatt had a fucking meltdown.
	They can't ban everybody, you know?
	So it's like, they're like, oh, shit, this is like decentralized.
	There's like 20 of them.
	Like, it's going global these days.
	What was that?
	That's for sure.
	The noticing is definitely going global.
	Oh, dude.
	We're all doing our part.
	Dude, that day, I said it.
	Literally, I said the greater, when I saw all three of you guys and all of you guys mentioned this topic on those days, I was fucking hyped because I was like, it's over.
	Like, that was the day I officially, I literally said it.
	The genie is out the bottle.
	You can't put it back now.
	You literally can't put it back.
	And at this point, now what Israel's going to try to do is try to like almost get into an information war.
	Nanyahu met with a bunch of media personalities like a week or two ago.
	Did you hear about that?
	Yup, Tim Poole is there.
	Chatham House Rules, baby.
	I wonder what that was all about.
	Yeah, so Dave Rubin and these other guys.
	And, you know, Israel is definitely aware of the fact that, like, American media is making a shift towards that.
	And I like Tim.
	I get along with Tim.
	You know, we could disagree.
	And I like his team, too.
	You know, yeah, it's a great team.
	He has great people around him.
	Look, we could disagree on Israel all day.
	I mean, me and you are cool at Laura Loomer, but we disagree with her on Israel.
	Yeah.
	So 100%.
	You don't have to, you know, agree with people politically to get along with them.
	And they're still good people.
	Like, Tim's a good guy.
	Laura's a good guy.
	You know, when you talk to them, because people, the thing is that people forget that these people are like human beings.
	They just look at their media personality and don't realize that, you know, people do have other personality traits and they're still human beings based off their political views.
	So it's like, they're still good people.
	So, and some people might get mad at me for saying that shit, but I'm not going to hate someone for having differing political views.
	I think that, if anything, I think engaging with them is better.
	Bingo.
	Those are the people whose minds you want to try to change.
	Yeah.
	You know, like, we're not out here to talk to people that already agree with us.
	And like, we're out here to talk to people that don't know or don't agree.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because you could sit there all day in echo chamber and you know, keep saying the same shit over, but that's exactly why these ideas couldn't get out there because they weren't willing to talk to other people or share the information or put themselves out there.
	So that's why it was an echo chamber.
	But now, right, it's kind of good when people like Doug Murray are freaking out and saying, well, you know, have you ever been there?
	You bring every caro.
	Yeah, like, you know, and he just makes himself look like an idiot.
	And Dave Smith absolutely made him look like a retard.
	But that's kind of where we're at, man.
	And then the last thing I was going to say, bro, you did great reporting on the Daily Wire stuff, man.
	I got to ask you this because when I was talking about the, I did a whole like breakdown on like the fall of the Daily Wire.
	And I used quite a bit of your information to kind of go off of it.
	What do you predict is going to happen next for them, man?
	Because this used to be the number one conservative media outlet in America.
	Like 2015, 2016, 2017, these guys were on top.
	And now it's like cooked.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Based on what I know about the financial situation and what was going on behind the scenes, I suspect, and this is totally just speculation.
	I'm definitely not an expert on running these sizes of companies out of my depth here.
	But I suspect that the only way they're going to actually salvage the business end of it is by jet.
	And they're already doing this to a large degree, is jettisoning all these huge projects that Jeremy was trying to start and like fucking grow and like all these big movies and like their kids division, all this shit that's just like, whoa, like cut off all the fat and bring it right back down to the heart of what it is and get back to like actual like open-minded conservative reporting, which they're not going to fucking do because like Ben Shapiro is the heart and soul of the Daily Wire.
	And now he is like, him and Matt Walsh are their only like big names.
	And so they're never going to be able to change on the Israel issue.
	And that is unfortunately always going to put them in that box that they're in.
	But at least they could be in that box and like, you know, show Zionism to Zionists.
	But the problem is that they had so much financial trouble that they got to get rid of all the fat and like pair their business down and like do it right again.
	And Jeremy left so many mistakes behind and so much sort of financial trouble behind that I like, I don't know if they can pull it off.
	If they do, that's how they'll do it.
	And otherwise, I suspect that we will watch them slowly crash and burn over the next year or two here.
	And I think that the Petersons already have this, they already have their scent on it.
	Like they know that it's not good.
	They were hiring their own PR.
	They were sort of like tripping out about what was going on.
	I suspect that a couple of the people are circling around looking for deals on the way out.
	I'm kind of surprised that Matt hasn't already done that.
	And I think a lot of that has to do with the types of contracts that they're in, is that they are, you know, in these complex, very legally binding contracts.
	And I don't know about those other people's contracts so much and why they're still there, but I suspect that I suspect it's going to be very hard for them to hold it together for more than another year or two.
	Yeah.
	I think, you know, getting rid of Candace was the beginning of the end.
	And then the Brett Cooper situation was the nail in the coffin.
	And interestingly enough, I think them putting Cooper on a NDA and getting rid of her so no one knew why she got rid of actually backfired on them because they assumed, oh, she must have based ideas on Israel.
	That's why they got rid of her.
	But it wasn't.
	It was basically money.
	And she wanted probably more creative control.
	And there's still more to come out about that story, too.
	That story is not done yet.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, definitely.
	And I've been watching Brett's reporting because she's A, she's fucking killing it.
	She's at 1.5 million subscribers.
	Yeah, she grew up with her.
	She gets like massive views on all of her videos.
	She's doing great.
	But also, she says some interesting things every now and then where like I know stuff about what happened there that I chose not to talk about because I'm under the impression that she would rather some things don't come out right now.
	Like she's just not, I don't need that mud.
	I don't need that fucking shitstorm.
	Like just let me exit and be like do my thing.
	I think is kind of her vibe.
	Yeah.
	Although I've never actually spoken to her in person at all or over text or anything.
	But I like, I kind of left some of it in the can because it's just like she doesn't need that shit in the public space and I don't think she wants it there.
	But when I'm watching her show, every now and then I catch a little thing where I'm like, that's fucking funny, bro.
	Because you know there is more layers to that onion.
	And I don't think we've heard the last of it.
	Gotcha.
	Because I know she went on Sean Ryan's thing and talked about it.
	I don't know how deep she went in.
	To me, I was like, you know, when she left, I was like, all right, it's probably money and contractual stuff.
	Cause, you know, she's not really based on the geopolitics stuff, like talking about Israel and that stuff.
	She kind of stays more on the normie tradcon conservative stuff.
	Like that's what, you know, most female, you know, female conservatives talk about is like more cultural shit, more like, you know, that stuff.
	They don't talk about, you know, deep dive geopolitical stuff like we do.
	So I knew right away.
	My understanding is that it was not about Israel, but I do know there are, there are things she is still not allowed to talk about.
	I believe that.
	I believe that.
	She would if she could.
	And she probably will when she can.
	Yeah.
	So Daily Wire has made a lot of mistakes and a lot of those mistakes are still open-ended and have not had closure yet.
	So they should have went out to the media and said why they parted ways with her.
	I think them allowing the NDA to kind of like work against them.
	Because again, they got rid of Candace for the Israel stuff.
	And then when they got rid of Brett Cooper, a lot of people thought it was the same reason.
	And that actually ended up fucking him up.
	But if they had just come out and said, yeah, we're letting go of her because she wants more money or she wants more creative control or we don't want to do that or some shit like that.
	That would have killed the wind in her sales for her.
	Like kind of, because she was able to like Candace walked so she can run, if that makes sense.
	100%.
	Like she kind of set this precedent that, oh, Daily Wire's pro-censorship, they must be trying to censor Brett as well.
	So if they had come out and said, no, it's not because of censorship, it's because she wants more creative control or she wants more money.
	That actually would have helped them.
	But that NDA fucked them up, in my opinion, just from the outside looking in.
	Well, it was the NDA plus them trying to get ahead of the story and sort of spin it as though none of the other bad stuff was going on behind the scenes.
	That fucked them up.
	And it gave Brett this huge tank of gasoline to pour onto her own channel that got everyone fucking lit.
	So she's killing it and I'm stoked that she's killing it.
	I'm so happy to see Brett succeeding.
	Good for her, man.
	But yeah, no, the Daily Wire, she didn't win.
	They just lost.
	She literally capitalized on it.
	Let me see.
	Let me see if I got any questions here for you and then I'll let you go, man, because I know you got a dip out here.
	They asked here, did you hear 4chan was hacked?
	Lots of IPs were government/slash Israeli guys.
	I'm going through your questions.
	Gonna pick out the best ones for Ian because he's short on time here.
	4chan was hacked?
	I haven't heard shit about that.
	Didn't hear about that one?
	Yeah, they're saying that a bunch of the IPs were actually from Israel, which is fucking hilarious.
	Let me see here if there's any other thing.
	Ian, when you're covering for Candace, will the Vibe be the same, AKA Stories, wise, or more?
	Oh, that's a good question.
	Okay.
	When I'm covering for Candace, I am doing my own thing and it'll be my show.
	They're not telling me what to cover.
	Candace trusts me.
	Or are you guys like, tell me about that?
	Okay, this is.
	So Candace is going on maternity leave in like a couple weeks here.
	And I am moving to Nashville to take over her show for like up to two months while she has a baby and raised that baby.
	And that came out of when I went on her show.
	Her comments just blew up with people like stoked on me being there and saying, hey, can Ian please cover for you when you're on maternity leave?
	We love this guy.
	And so she texted me that day and was like, hey, do you want to do this?
	And I was like, yeah, let's fucking go.
	It kind of works with my schedule.
	And so we talked more and we kind of like talked about how it would work.
	And it's like we get each other and we both report in similar ways on very similar kind of parallel things.
	And so I think we both realized and her audience all realized at once that like that will be a seamless like transition to kind of keep it going.
	But also it'll be a breath of fresh air.
	It'll be something new.
	I'm going to do kind of some ongoing stories and some sort of reporting on what's going on every day, probably like three shows a week, but it's all mine.
	Like I'll have creative control.
	I'll do what I want.
	And I'll obviously be like conferring with Candace and her team and like learning from them.
	So are you going to stream it like just so people know where to find it?
	Like it'll be on Candace's YouTube channel.
	Okay.
	So it'll be on Candace's YouTube channel and yours.
	No, just Candace's.
	Just okay.
	She's going to be like on Candace's show and we'll be plugging my YouTube channel to try to like help me grow and all that.
	Yeah.
	I'll probably still be doing a little bit of my own stuff on the side while I'm doing it.
	Okay.
	Pretty busy.
	But I'm just like stoked to help out, stoked to learn from them.
	Nice.
	And like I'll be like reading her ads.
	Like it'll be her show.
	I'll just be like a guest host.
	But I'll be doing my own digs and also conferring with her and the team as we go.
	And it'll probably tie in.
	It'll be a couple of them I'll intentionally tie in and a couple will be my own thing.
	See if Daily Wire did that when they replaced Brooke Cooper, they would have been okay, right?
	If they had done that.
	But no, that's awesome, dude.
	So no, cool.
	Then I'll definitely be tuning in.
	So it's going to be basically because I think, when does she go live?
	She goes live like 4 or 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time or something like that.
	I forget when.
	It's like, yeah, I forget what it is Eastern Time, but yeah, it's like she does it four days a week.
	I'm going to start it three days a week.
	And if I'm like, if I've got that dialed, I'm going to probably bump it up to four, but we'll see what happens.
	But it'll be on her channel.
	It'll be, you know, pushed out just like normal.
	And we'll see what happens.
	It's going to be sick.
	That's awesome, dude.
	I will be supporting, man.
	So let me see if there's any like questions here that are good for you because I don't want to hold you here forever.
	I love how you're in like a spaceship and you've got like different screens in different places.
	You're like fucking master of the master designer.
	I got like six screens.
	So I'm just like, oh shit.
	But yeah, no, man.
	So, bro, I'll let you go.
	Where can the people find you?
	Obviously, you told us about the Candace Owens project, which when does that start in a couple weeks?
	Yeah, it'll start probably partway through.
	It kind of depends on when the baby comes.
	Okay.
	But it'll start somewhere around May like 12th or May 19th, probably will be the week I take over.
	It'll kind of depend on when Candace's baby comes.
	But people can find me on YouTube at Ian Carroll Show.
	That's what I'm trying to grow right now.
	And that's where I'm focusing all my time and attention is on these bigger YouTube digs.
	I'm on X at Ian Carroll Show as well.
	And that's where I fucking talk shit, but I'm trying to do less of that and not get so bogged down in it.
	And I have a website that's canceliancarroll.com if you want to like support me or get merch.
	And I am going to be putting more resources up there.
	All those things are linked together and all that is appreciated.
	I'm putting your channel right now on screen.
	Guys, go subscribe.
	Here's his YouTube channel right here on screen.
	Ian Carol 200K on the YouTube.
	Super stoked.
	Guys, let's get him to 200,000, man.
	He's migrating over from TikTok, man.
	He's coming on the YouTube wave.
	Are you on Rumble too, bro?
	You should make a Rumble.
	I am on Rumble.
	It's just like super annoying, and they don't pay at all, basically.
	And so it's like, I'll probably get back because I'm doing it all myself with no production team, no fucking tech, nothing.
	So I'll probably get back on uploading everything to Rumble 2 after I'm done with Candace once I kind of am growing that shit.
	But right now, I'm just focusing just on YouTube.
	I'm just keeping it simple.
	No, no, no worries, man.
	Cool.
	Guys, go check him out, man.
	As you guys know, a good friend of mine, you're in Nashville.
	Are you in Austin or Nashville then?
	I'm in Austin right now, and I'm going to be moving to Nashville to take over Candace here soon.
	All right, cool, cool, cool.
	All right, man.
	I really appreciate it, man.
	This is a ton of fun, dude.
	We went way over time, but it was like so much fun.
	I was like, let's not stop, dude.
	Let's keep digging.
	No, absolutely, man.
	It's always a good time chatting up with you, man.
	Much success, bro.
	I'm really happy for you.
	Fuck all the haters that talk shit.
	They're just jealous that, you know, you got the limelight on you and we're ruined for you over here, man.
	No, no, no hating our bones over on this side.
	Dude, appreciate it.
	And thanks to the chat.
	Your chat is always the shit.
	I told him right before we went down that Myron's always got the most fucking lit chat.
	Huge shout out, dude.
	I'll see you guys again soon.
	All right, later on.
	Candace and all that.
	Take it easy, bro.
	Peace.
	All right.
	Okay, chat.
	Let me W interview with Ian.
	Give me one sec, chat.
	So I could turn my camera back on.
	Shout out to him, man.
	Good guy.
	You know, I'm always really happy whenever my guys are winning, man.
	Like, bro is having a meteoric rise.
	And that's what it's about, man.
	Got to support your buddies.
	Let me go ahead and read some of these chats.
	I was, you know, obviously I didn't want to interrupt the interview too, too much.
	So let me go ahead and go through.
	And thank you guys so much for the support, by the way.
	We got here Broke Cracker says, damn good show.
	Appreciate that.
	Broke Cracker.
	Vaccines Cause Autism?
	Duh.
	LMAO Old News.
	Okay.
	Autcraft says, remember the person in charge at the Vegas shooting EAS, the person in charge in those Hawaii fires, were where they were not letting people escape the fires and the cops were blocking roads off.
	Governments did not didn't.
	So this at all, bro, please spell check your shit before you guys write.
	Mr. Jailer, what do you think about W-band, wide-body area networking, and the military's ability to monitor our thoughts and transhumanism?
	Are we using our own bodies' neurons to process data for AI wirelessly?
	I don't know enough about it to speak about it in an educated fashion.
	I don't want to be one of these guys that just talks out their ass.
	We already have enough of those, right?
	Give me one sec, chat.
	All right.
	So let's go through some of these things.
	And we're also going to hit the news as well, guys.
	Apparently, some judges are getting arrested.
	Holy shit.
	Nathaniel Works says, Myron has watched the OKC bombing documentary and just found it crazy how despite building being one-third completely blown apart, the building did not collapse.
	That is crazy.
	Andrew Cohen, these anti-Semitic.
	Hey, okay, Andrew Cohen.
	Nobody cares what you guys are saying.
	You are Jewish, so shut up.
	Obsessed HP says, Ian, when you talk to Candace next, if she wants to do her own, make her own daily wire with a coalition of alternate talking heads.
	Let's do things better.
	Everyone stay independent.
	I think you would say everyone stay independent.
	What happened to the RFK story?
	They covered it already.
	Zentience says, Martin, it's been a while catching up on a few things.
	Where do I find the comprehensive information you referred to on the noticing and the cookie monster?
	On the noticing?
	I did a podcast on it.
	Type in the Great Awakening on my YouTube channel.
	You'll see it.
	And I did a whole breakdown on it, and I also went over the fall of the Daily Wire.
	When people asked me if I would go back to the Marine Corps, my answer is no, I'm not dying for Israel.
	Fair enough.
	Martin, you would make hit way, you make waves hitting the crowd speaking circuit.
	Stay tuned.
	We got some stuff planned for that.
	Obsessed HP says, okay, we got that one already.
	Tucker Fuentes for DB Cooper.
	Okay.
	Crunchy, bro.
	I've been here since day one, literally since 2020.
	Please take some time off, bro.
	Take a week and go enjoy yourself.
	You're working way too hard.
	This respect, though.
	I love you.
	No, I will not take any breaks.
	The train keeps going, my friend.
	The show continues on.
	The show goes on.
	But it's good that you've noticed that I haven't taken a break since 2020.
	Obsessed says, Myron, you think part of Epstein's job was to steal the tech Ashton Forbes talks about?
	Yeah, that's literally what Jeffrey Epstein's main gig was with stealing technology.
	Guys, the Israelis love stealing technology.
	It's one of the biggest things that they do.
	Obsessed HP, did you hear Fortel Zach?
	Okay, read that one.
	All right, I think we're caught up then.
	All right.
	So, let's see here.
	Martin, how does the sub-a-thon work?
	I don't watch Dreamers, so I don't know how that works.
	Guys, I think we might push it to next week, bro, because to next Friday, because we still got to get some things organized.
	And we could do it today, but I think it would be way better if we had it properly planned out.
	As you guys know, I was out of Florida for a few days doing the college stuff.
	So, yeah.
	Love the show, Myron.
	Much love.
	Appreciate that, Gore.
	So, this is breaking news, guys.
	Came out a couple hours ago.
	Pam Bonnie details judges' actions before arrest.
	So, you know, this seems to be what's going on.
	Some judges are getting arrested.
	So, I open up my YouTube feed, right?
	And I see people talking, like, here's Kyle Kalinsky right here talking about the judge regime now arresting judges.
	We got here Fox News, Milwaukee judge arrested, accused of helping man avoid ICE.
	So, holy shit, man.
	And as you guys can see here, look, I have a very balanced feed here.
	You know, I watch both right-wing and left-wing political commentary, right?
	I think it's very important to watch your opposition.
	You know, I'll watch guys like Kyle and Hassan because you need to be able to understand what the left is saying.
	I'll watch Young Turks every now and then.
	This guy, Luke Beasley.
	So, you know, I always watch the opposing views to see what's going on.
	CNN.
	So, I think it's very important to watch adversarial media is my takeaway here.
	So, okay, let's go ahead and look at this hit from Fox News first, and then we'll go into the other stuff.
	Apparently, they're arresting judges.
	Let's fucking go through this.
	Oh, hold on.
	It's muted, guys.
	Federal law to help an illegal immigrant.
	Federal prosecutor says Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge Hannah Dugan allegedly helped that migrant avoid arrest by ICE officers at the courthouse.
	It's a bizarre case that it's still unfolding.
	Hello, I'm John Roberts in Washington.
	Sandra, good to see you back again.
	All right.
	Good to be back with you as well, John.
	I'm Sandra Smith in New York, and this is America Reports.
	So today's arrest of a judge marks the second such case in the last 24 hours.
	A four new Mexico judge and his wife were taken into custody yesterday.
	Federal agency.
	Oh, shit.
	HSI?
	Grab these guys up?
	Oh, shit.
	A four new Mexico judge and his wife were taken into custody.
	So, yeah, HSI.
	Wow, my agency grabbed them.
	Yesterday.
	Probably it's probably going to be.
	It's probably for eight USC 1324 chat aiding and abetting illegal aliens.
	And here's the thing.
	I warned motherfuckers on Twitter about this chat, FYI.
	All you guys that follow me on Twitter, you guys know I've been saying this for months.
	Once they started these mass deportations, I told people, bro, like, do not assist illegal aliens with illegally staying here.
	Like, you can literally go to jail for that shit.
	And people were like, oh, fuck you, Byron.
	And I was like, warning people, like, bro, it's not a good idea.
	Might not want to do this.
	And look what's happening.
	Now we got judges getting arrested for this shit.
	So, hey, man, I try to warn people.
	I try to tell them that it is a crime to facilitate or harbor illegal aliens for harboring a suspected Trendaragua gang member in their fucking do it.
	A USC 1324, chat.
	That's what they're going to get hit with, man.
	And I did not watch this press release before.
	FYI.
	How do I know?
	I fucking called it.
	I fucking called it, chat.
	All the ones in the chat, you guys know, I've been saying this shit on Twitter for months.
	AOC has been doing this shit.
	I said, not a smart move.
	Guest house.
	For more and all of this, we are honored to have in the new U.S. Attorney General, Pam Bondi.
	It's good to talk to you, Pam.
	Good to talk to you.
	So let me read.
	Of course, Pam Bondi is on Fox News.
	She's always on Fox News.
	This girl loves the internet.
	She loves being on the news, bro.
	She might as well just get a spot on Fox News and be the talking head.
	Read a little bit from the criminal complaint here.
	And Judge Dugan says, despite having been advised of the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores Ruiz, Judge Dugan then escorted Flores Ruiz and his counsel out of the courtroom through the jury door, which leads to a non-public area of the courthouse.
	Hold on.
	Why are they saying FBI?
	Let me see whose case this was.
	This was filed Thursday.
	All right.
	Chat, you already know what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to go ahead.
	I'll play this while I go ahead and get you guys the PACER document.
	His name is the arrest of Flores Judge Dugan.
	All right, so let's see here.
	Judge Dugan arrest.
	Okay, FBI arrests, whatever.
	Oh, we saw it was literally HSI.
	I didn't, it's not, it doesn't look like.
	All right, who ran this case?
	Very interesting.
	Okay, you know what we're going to do?
	So this is the breaking news here.
	All right, let's go ahead and get because I want to look at the okay, Cash Patel did an announcement on this.
	The director of the FBI, just now the FBI arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin on charges of obstruction after evidence of Judge Dugan obstructing an immigration arrest operation last week.
	We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected the federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse.
	Okay.
	So FBI Milwaukee did this.
	Okay, let's see who the lead agency was, though, because we know, chat, that the FBI always fucking steals stats all the time.
	So we just got to figure out who the lead agency was on this thing.
	Because if you guys notice, it's HSI that's perp walking her, which is a big red flag.
	Let's see if DOJ put out a press release.
	Okay, boom.
	All right.
	So what I always tell you guys, always go to the official press release on the Department of Justice, okay?
	Fuck what everybody else does.
	So, okay, Judge Kano and Judge Dugan.
	All right, cool.
	So let's see here.
	So who made the announcements So this is how you guys figure out who the lead agency was, okay?
	This is some sauce for you guys.
	So, judge is responsible for upholding.
	Okay.
	Former Judge Barra said, U.S. Attorney Ryan Ellison for the District of Mexico.
	U.S. Attorney's Office committed to dismantling this foreign terrorist organization by disrupting blah, blah, blah, stars by prosecuting those who support gang members, including judges.
	Okay, boom.
	According to court documents, only asking investigation initiated the investigation into Ortega Lopez after receiving an anonymous hit that the individual is unlawfully president of the United States and in possession of foreign subsequent investigation confirmed that the defendant illegally entered on December 15, 2023 near Eagle Pass, Texas.
	Oh man, I remember Eagle Pass.
	And released shortly thereafter.
	So it looks like HSI started the investigation.
	And then maybe the FBI came in later.
	Let's see here.
	So charge.
	Okay.
	Floyd's previously deported.
	He was arrested.
	Okay.
	Criminal complaint did it.
	Okay.
	We are going to go ahead and read that criminal complaint and break this shit down, chat, okay?
	We go cook today.
	Information-packed episode on the way.
	Because this is breaking news.
	So this affidavit that was written.
	Okay.
	So I'm going to teach you guys how to find information on PACER, okay?
	So we know that this was out of which district?
	Why is it not saying which district it is?
	Okay, control F. Because you got to find the Okay, okay, Eastern District of Wisconsin.
	Boom.
	So we go copy.
	This is what you guys are going to do.
	This is how you find a case.
	All right, guys.
	You go PACER, Eastern District of Wisconsin.
	Then you click this.
	You're going to log in, make an account.
	I'm already logged in.
	Once you're logged in, it brings you to the screen, right?
	We're going to click this, log in again.
	Then you're going to go query chat.
	And when you're here on query, right, you're going to type in the last name.
	So in this case, D-U-G-A-N Dugan.
	And then what's her first name?
	Hannah.
	Okay.
	This is crazy that they arrested a judge.
	So run query, boom.
	Here she is, defendant.
	Okay, there's multiple ones, but it's probably going to be one of these three.
	Nope, that might not, because this is a civil case.
	See this?
	This is how we know it's not it.
	CV?
	Nope, that's not it.
	This one.
	Nope, CV.
	This one.
	Okay, bam.
	This is it.
	So how do you guys know it's a criminal case?
	So it goes 225, right?
	Which is going to be the fiscal year and the month.
	And then, because I think, wait, why the fuck does it say two?
	Maybe the court number.
	But MJ means it's a magistrate judge, okay?
	Because this was a, that's how you know it's a criminal complaint.
	So if it says MJ, that means it's a criminal complaint.
	If you see CR, that means it was indicted, right?
	And then this is the case number, and then SCD.
	That's the judge.
	S C D is the acronym for the judge.
	Or sorry, the initials.
	So we go ahead, we go USA versus Dugan.
	We click docket report.
	Then we go run report, right?
	Here she is.
	She's been charged with obstruction proceeding before departments, agencies in the U.S. Here's a criminal complaint.
	Bam.
	Now we got the real facts.
	And I tell you guys all the time: the criminal complaint is super important because it gives you all the facts.
	Okay, so it looks like FBI is running this case.
	The affian is an FBI agent.
	So Lindsay Schlomer, that's a crazy name.
	Special Agent FBI.
	Okay.
	And Stephen C. Dryce.
	Remember how it said SDC, guys?
	Or an SCD?
	Yeah, that's the initials.
	So here's a criminal complaint, right?
	Obstructing justice concealing out of the Eastern District.
	So let's see how long this affidavit is.
	Okay, it's not that long.
	Okay.
	So let's go ahead and read through this real quick.
	All right.
	So I, Lindsay Schlomer, being first duly sworn hereby deposed and stated as the follows.
	And we've read a bunch of affidavits on this channel, guys.
	You know, so you guys know background experience.
	She says what she used to do.
	She's been a special agent since 2014, currently assigned to the Milwaukee Field Office.
	What section is she in?
	She's also CPA.
	She was a CPA seven years before.
	What squad is she assigned to?
	Okay, she's assigned to the White Collar Crime Squad, which makes sense.
	She's a CPA.
	So she does corruption crime, civil rights, and financial crimes.
	Okay.
	And then this goes into whatever.
	So the purpose of the affidavit, I make this supportive criminal complaint charging Hannah C. Dugan, obstruction justice.
	Okay, now let's get into the probable cause.
	I'm aware from a review of public records that on March 18, 2025, Eduardo Flores release, born in 1994, was charged in Milwaukee County Circuit Court case number, blah, blah, blah, with three counts of battery domestic and abuse infliction of physical pain or injury.
	Agents from the Department of Homeland Security, DHS, Immigration, Customs Enforcement, Enforcement Removal Operations, ICRO, as you guys know, those are the dudes that do the actual deportations.
	Identify Flores Ruiz as an individual who was not lawfully in the United States.
	Review Flores alien registration file, A-file.
	An A-file, guys, by the way, because some of you guys might be saying, what the fuck is an A-file, Myron?
	Every single person that's in the United States that, you know, naturalized or wasn't born here has something called that's trying to become a citizen.
	You know, they go through the green card process or they have maybe a K-1 visa to become a citizen.
	They got something called an alien registration number.
	And that alien registration number, guys, is a nine-digit number that basically thinks of it as like a social security number for aliens.
	So like my parents, for example, have alien numbers because they were not born here.
	They naturalized.
	So everyone has an A file.
	Okay.
	And this is maintained by the Department of Homeland Security.
	So indicator Flores Reese is native in national Mexico.
	Okay, so he had an I-860 notice and order of expedited removal by the United States Border Patrol on January 16, 2023.
	So this guy was ordered removed.
	Okay, and this is an expedited removal.
	If you guys watch the show, I've talked about ER ERs for a while.
	It's basically when you're encountered by a border patrol, they can do an ER removal, which means they're going to get rid of you within two weeks and move you back to Mexico.
	So, because he came into Mexico through Nogales, Arizona, port of entry, There is no evidence in the A-File or DHS indices indicating that Flores Reese saw or obtained permission to return to the United States.
	Okay, so this is what happened.
	He came into the United States in 2013.
	He got deported by Border Patrol with an ER ER.
	So he clearly came back in again and made it through, which is why he's here now, which is common.
	People get caught all the time.
	Even the smuggling organizations.
	And I went over this in detail in my UPenn Penn State speech.
	A lot of these smuggling organizations chat, the person will get smuggled into the United States.
	And then if they get caught by Border Patrol or apprehended, the smuggling organization will give them a second chance because they pay a lot of money.
	So they get caught.
	All right, we'll try you again in a couple weeks or a couple of months.
	So that's what ended up happening here.
	He probably got caught.
	They said, hey, don't worry, bro.
	No worries.
	We'll give you a refund.
	You know, we're going to make sure that you get the service that you need to.
	We're going to smuggle you in again.
	And they got him through, right?
	So let's see here.
	The Milwaukee ICRO office determined that through biometric fingerprint comparisons, the fingerprints of the individual charged in Milwaukee case number match those to the A file of Eduardo Flores.
	Yes, when you're caught by Border Patrol guys, they fingerprint you.
	So that's how they were able to do that.
	On or about April 17, 2025, an authorized immigration official found probable cause to believe Flores Reese was removable from the United States and issued a warrant for his arrest.
	The warrant provided, you are commanded to arrest and taken into custody for removal proceedings under the Immigration Nationality Act named Alien blah, blah, blah.
	So this was an immigration warrant, right?
	Completely different from a criminal warrant.
	You have less authority with an immigration warrant.
	So the Milwaukee ICRO office was aware that on April 18, 2025, Flores Reese was scheduled to attend a hearing in this criminal case.
	The hearing was set to take place in courtroom 615 for Hannah C. Dugan.
	Based on the above information on April 18, 2025, members of the Milwaukee ICRO task force traveled to Milwaukee County Courthouse with his arrest warrant in hand for the purpose of executing the warrant.
	Now, this is common, guys.
	If the feds know that you're going to be at a state legal proceeding, what they'll do is they'll come with that immigration warrant and arrest you.
	Why?
	Because with an immigration warrant, they can't break into your house, okay?
	Like with a regular criminal arrest warrant.
	Immigration warrants are different, chat.
	Very different.
	They're more administrative.
	Okay.
	So as such, members of the Milwaukee ICRO task force developed a plan to arrest Flores in a public area outside courtroom 615.
	Well, you guys know why they had to do it in a public area.
	They can't go to his house.
	Or if they went to his house, he's not required to open the door.
	And they can't break in.
	I'm aware that two prior arrests in public areas in Milwaukee County Courthouse, courthouse complex individuals who were not lawfully president of the United States had received public attention.
	Both incidents involve individuals who had not been charged with criminal offenses but were not in custody and appearing for scheduled hearings in their criminal cases.
	So basically, this guy got arrested by the state for some criminal shit.
	ICE knew this.
	They showed up.
	So arrival of arrest teams at the Milwaukee County Courthouse and notification of independent arrests.
	So six members of ICE plan to take part in the arrest of Flores Ruiz.
	This included ICRO deportation officer, Customs Word Protection Officer, Officer A. So a CBP guy, special agents A and B, and drug enforcement.
	Damn, DEA was there?
	What the fuck?
	That's weird.
	Okay.
	Guaranteed this guy probably, yeah, because you know what, he was a member of the gang.
	So yeah, that might be why.
	Okay.
	The agents were generally dressed in plain clothes and intended to effectuate their arrest in as low-key and safe manner as possible.
	At approximately 8 a.m. on April 18th, the deportation officer and CBP officer arrived at the Milwaukee courthouse, presented identification to a security guard, and explained that they were present to make an arrest.
	Deportation Officer A and CPP Officer A were asked to show not only their credentials, but only also their badges.
	The security guard stated that she needs to speak with a supervisor, a SIF sergeant, with a Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office contacted and spoke to deportation officer A. They discussed the details of the planned arrest, including in which courtroom Flores Rees was set to appear.
	The sergeant asked that any arrest wait until after the completion of the scheduled hearing before Judge Dugan.
	As this was standard practice, deportation officer A and CPP officer A agreed, and they're allowed to proceed unescorted to the public hallway outside of courtroom 615.
	Okay, so they said, cool, you can arrest them.
	Just like, let them do his court.
	Let him finish his court hearing.
	So the other members of the arrest team were already present in the sixth-floor public hallway when deportation officer A and CPP officer A arrived.
	Before deportation officer A and CPP officer A arrived, she doesn't want to use their names, guys.
	That's why she's using these things.
	But they are basically a CPP officer and ICE deportation officer.
	Once they arrived outside of courtroom 615, FBI agents A and B advised the courtroom deputy for courtroom 615 that law enforcement was there to arrest Flores.
	FBI agent A displayed his credentials to the courtroom deputy and informed him that they were there to arrest, to assist ICE in arresting Flores.
	They agreed that the arrest would take place after Flores' court appearance agents then left the courtroom.
	Case agents have interviewed the courtroom deputy president 615 on April 18th who corroborated the above information.
	The courtroom deputy had opened the doors to the courtroom at approximately 8:15 a.m. and reported that individuals began checking in for the list of matters scheduled for that morning.
	The courtroom deputy had received a list of individuals appearing that day, and the courtroom deputy checked in defendants while the attorneys received with the clerk.
	So, let me explain this real quick to you guys.
	So, when it comes to the local court system, right?
	The judge is sitting there, and you know, she's there for bond hearings, she's there, you know, to see if people get released, she's there for initial appearances, she's there for court updates, etc.
	So, there's a whole list of different cases that are going to be heard on that day.
	So, in this case, this illegal alien, Flores Reese, was supposed to be seen by the judge, and then ICE and FBI and DEA and all these other federal agencies were basically there to arrest him once he finished his court hearing.
	And they were coordinating with the sheriff's office and the local cops that are there.
	Hey, look, just so you know, we're here to arrest this guy.
	Once he's done with his court hearing, we're going to grab him.
	And they're like, All right, cool.
	Just let him do his court hearing so you don't cause a commotion, right?
	So, it looks like everything is good here.
	The courtroom deputy explained that approximately 8:15, FBI agents advised they were working with ICE and were planning to arrest him.
	The courtroom deputy asked agents to wait outside and arrest Flores after the hearing.
	The agents agreed and left the courtroom.
	All right, the courtroom deputy told the case agents that after an ICE arrested the courthouse earlier that month, the sheriff sergeant had asked Bayless, a lot of supervisor at the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office of ICE agents were in the building.
	Accordingly, the courtroom deputy filed notified a shift sergeant.
	Interesting.
	So, arrestee members reported that while waiting outside of the courtroom, a woman approached and took photos of the arrest team members.
	DA agent B, who was inconspicuously seated away from the group, was not photographed.
	The individual taking photographs of the agents has been identified by multiple witnesses as an attorney employed by the state of Wisconsin Public Defender's Office.
	Team members observed Flores Reese appear, sorry, arrive on the sixth floor of the courthouse at approximately 8:43 a.m.
	He was greeted by his attorney, and the two entered courtroom 615 together.
	So, Judge Dugan learns of ICE's presence and confronts members of the arrest team.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay, here we go.
	So, witnesses have described Judge Dugan's response to learning of ICE's presence.
	For example, the courtroom deputy indicated that when Flores Ruiz arrived, Judge Dugan already was on the bench and conducting proceedings unrelated to Flores Reese.
	Like I told you guys before, she's there for everybody.
	The courtroom deputy observed attorney A, the individual who photographed the agents, enter and approach Judge Dugan's clerk.
	Attorney A stated that there appeared to be ICE agents in the hallway.
	Attorney A told the clerk where the agents were seated and what they were wearing.
	Oh shit.
	So now the judge knows that they're there.
	The courtroom deputy reported that the clerk then got up and talked with Judge Dugan.
	Dugan became visibly angry, commented that the situation was absurd, left the bench, and entered chambers.
	Chambers, guys, just so you guys are wondering.
	So in every courtroom behind the courtroom, there's what's called the judge's chambers.
	It's like an office.
	It's where they, you know, sign warrants.
	That's where they answer emails.
	It's like their working space and it's attached to the courtroom.
	So when you see them come out that little door before they get on the bench, they're coming from their chambers.
	Okay.
	It's a secure area where they could do their work.
	Another individual, attorney B, was working as an assistant district attorney in Judge Dugan's courtroom on April 18, 2025.
	According to Attorney B, there were approximately eight criminal cases, including Flores Ruiz's cases, scheduled for pretrial hearings that morning.
	Okay.
	So Attorney B was aware that the victims from Flores Ruiz's criminal case were in the courtroom.
	While Attorney B was busy preparing for the morning's docket, attorney B heard someone announced ICE is here.
	Oh, shit, cover blown.
	Shortly thereafter, Attorney B heard Judge Dugan say she was going to call the chief judge before leaving the courtroom.
	Members of the arrest team reported the following events after Judge Dugan learned of their presence and left the bench.
	Judge Dugan and Judge A, who were both wearing judicial robes, approached members of the arrest team in the public hallway.
	Oh shit, so another judge comes up to them.
	Judge A's courtroom is located adjacent to Judge Dugan's courtroom.
	Witnesses uniformly reported that Judge Dugan was visibly upset and had confrontational angry demeanor.
	Judge Dugan addressed deportation officer A and asked if deportation officer A was present for a court appearance.
	When the officer responded, no, Judge Dugan stated the deportation officer would need to leave the courthouse.
	The deportation officer stated that deportation officer was there to effectuate an arrest.
	Dugan asked if deportation officer had a judicial warrant.
	And deportation officer said, A, responded, no.
	I have an administrative warrant.
	That's technically true.
	Judge Dugan stated that deportation officer A needed a judicial warrant.
	Deportation Officer A told Judge Dugan that deportation officer A was in public space and had a valid immigration warrant.
	Judge Dugan asked to see the administrative warrant and the deportation officer offered to show it to her.
	Dugan then demanded that deportation officer A speak with the chief judge.
	Judge Dugan then had a similar interaction with FBI agent B and CPB officer.
	After finding out they were not present for a court appearance and that they were with ICE, Judge Dugan ordered them to report to the chief judge's office.
	Oh shit, she's trying to boss them around.
	Judge A then escorted members of the arrest team away from courtroom 615 down the hall and through a set of double doors towards the reception area for the judge's office.
	DA agent B, who was not recognized by Judge Dugan and Judge A, remember, guys, they tried to take a picture of him, but he they didn't know.
	Judge, who was not recognized by Judge Dugan and Judge A as being part of the arrest team, remained outside of Quorum 615.
	So the DE agent, they don't know that he's an agent.
	Okay?
	He probably looked like shit.
	That's why.
	A lot of DE agents are pretty good undercovers.
	Probably look like a criminal.
	The quorum deputy, because FBI agents, it's easy to tell, bro.
	They're clean cut.
	They're white.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Very waspy.
	The quorum deputy reported observing a portion of the above described events.
	According to Quorum Deputy, Judge Dugan was advised ICE presidents, blah, blah, blah.
	She was mad.
	Cool.
	The agent who remained in the hallway and have not been recognized reported that Judge Dugan walked around the hallway and appeared to be looking for additional agents before she returned to her courtroom.
	Okay.
	Once inside the office of the chief judge, deportation officer agent, so judge A, his credentials, and the administrative warrant.
	Judge A asked the chief judge's clerk to make a copy of the warrant and asked whether the chief judge was available.
	The clerk advised that the chief judge was not in the building, but later advised that he was on the phone.
	At that point, Judge A left and deportation officer A went inside a more private area of the judge's office to speak with him on the phone.
	During their conversation, the chief judge stated he was working on a policy which would dictate location within the courthouse where ICE could safely conduct enforcement actions.
	The chief judge emphasized that such actions should not take place in courtrooms or other private locations within the building.
	Bro, you can't tell them when they're going to make their arrests.
	Like, the fact that they're even complying with these judges and being nice is a courtesy.
	They could rip his ass just while he's doing his courtroom hearing.
	Like, bro, what the fuck are these judges talking about?
	Okay, so I could already tell this is going to be a pissy match.
	When the chief judge expressed interest in talking to Ice Arrow management about this policy, the DO provided him contact information for Ice Arrow's assistant field office director.
	So the top guy.
	So while the deportation officer was speaking with the chief judge, DEA agent and the FBI guys waited in the vestibule area outside of the judge's office, blah, blah, blah.
	Judge Dugan's courtroom.
	Okay.
	So Judge Dugan escorts Flores through a jury door to avoid his arrest.
	This is where she fucked up.
	This is where she fucked up.
	So multiple witnesses have described their observations after Judge Dugan returned to her courtroom after directing members of the arrest team to the chief judge's office.
	For example, the quorum deputy called, recalled that upon the courtroom deputy's return to the courtroom.
	Let's see here.
	I'm going to just give you guys a summary instead of sometimes these affidavits, they're super fucking redundant.
	So basically, she let him out another way.
	He makes outside of the courthouse while the other guys are being distracted.
	And from different vantage points, both agents observed Flores Reese and his counsel walk briskly towards the elevator bank on the south end of the sixth floor.
	I'm familiar with the layout of the sixth floor of the courthouse and know that the south elevators are not closet elevators, the close elevators.
	Yeah, so the DEA agent followed Flores Reese remember.
	They didn't know he was an agent.
	And his attorney towards the south elevator bank at approximately 850 a.m.
	DEA agent learned to other members of the arrest team that he was in the elevator with Flores Reese while on the elevator, Flores Reese and his attorney spoke to each other in Spanish, which DA agent A did not understand.
	They exited the elevator on the bottom floors.
	So he's following them.
	He's keeping eyes.
	He's following them.
	They don't know that he's a DEA agent.
	So after he notified the team, the agents ran outside towards the front of the courthouse.
	FBA agent B and DEA agent A approached Flores Reese, identified themselves as law enforcement.
	Ruiz turned around and sprinted down the street.
	A foot chase ensued.
	The agents pursued Flores Ruiz for the entire length of the courthouse and ultimately apprehended him near the intersection of West State Street on the 10th Street.
	Flores Reese was handcuffed and detained around 9:05 a.m., approximately 22 minutes after the arrest team, first spot of Flores Reese.
	FBI agent, blah, blah, blah, communicated to the surveillance that they arrested him.
	And then the deportation officer, CPC officer, were notified that Flores was in custody while they were still inside the courthouse speaking with the chief judge on the phone.
	So long story short, guys, this is what happened.
	The judge put the agents in a room.
	The judge was distracting them.
	They're making these phone calls dealing with all this bureaucracy bullshit.
	Meanwhile, she takes an illegal alien through another door.
	He kind of escapes.
	Luckily, the DEA agent that they didn't identify, he's still undercover.
	He follows them.
	He notifies other guys, yo, he's out.
	He's out.
	He's out.
	That when he sees other agents coming, then they chase him down and they arrest him.
	So, yeah, dude, she 100%, she's cooked.
	This judge is a retard.
	Okay, now that we know the story, let's go into the press release chat.
	Guys, give me ones in the chat.
	That'll make sense.
	Give me ones in the chat.
	That'll make sense.
	I summarized quite a bit of it for you guys.
	I didn't want to read the entire affidavit.
	But basically, no bueno for her.
	No bueno for her.
	All right.
	Dre DeSola says you should show up at Charlie Kirk's College to prove me wrong and debate him there.
	I only think he's got a few more schools left, guys.
	I looked at his schedule.
	Is there still going to be a credit card episode?
	Yeah.
	Next Monday, probably.
	Hey, man, I'm 22, three years until cybersecurity degree, live with mom, waiting for marriage.
	Should I pause courting until I financially independent to avoid burning my future husband and ensure stability?
	Stay with your mom until you're married.
	Don't move out.
	It'll keep you from being a whore.
	So out of the courtroom through the jury door, which leads to a non-public area of the courthouse.
	A foot chase ensued.
	The agents pursued Flores Ruiz for the entire length of the courthouse and ultimately apprehended him.
	According to this complaint, Judge Diggan was visibly angry.
	Yeah, that kind of put them in danger.
	The fact that they had to chase him and he was outside of the courtroom at that point, who knows if he grabbed a gun or whatever, it wasn't sanitized.
	The reason why agents like to arrest these guys in the courtroom or in the courthouse is because they have to go through security so they know that they don't have any weapons.
	That's huge.
	And why it's so advantageous to arrest these guys at government buildings.
	Angry that ICE was there to arrest Flores Ruiz, even tried to kick the deportation agents out of the courthouse.
	Yeah, and to set the stage for you and Sandra, this was truly horrific.
	This guy was in court being prosecuted by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery.
	He had beat up two people, a guy and a girl, beat the guy, hit the guy 30 times, knocked him to the ground, choked him, beat up a woman so badly they both had to go to the hospital.
	And John, you know, it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate.
	They wanted to cooperate.
	They were sitting in the courtroom with the state prosecutor.
	The judge learns that ICE was outside to get the guy because he had been deported in 2013, came back in our country, commits these crimes, charged with committing these crimes, victims in court.
	Judge finds out, she goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers.
	She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk to the chief judge.
	Milwaukee, by the way, super fucking woke.
	Now surprise that she was fucking butthurt that they were there.
	She comes back in the courtroom.
	You're not going to believe this.
	Takes the defendant and the defense attorney back in her chambers, takes them out a private exit, and tells them to leave.
	That's crazy.
	Well, a state prosecutor and victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.
	Wow.
	You know, Madam Attorney General, great to have you here.
	And thanks for coming back on America Report.
	So we remember these words of Tom Holman, The Borders Are.
	This was March 17th, and his message on these judges who apparently are trying to get in the way of this administration's efforts.
	Listen.
	I'm proud to be a part of this administration.
	We're not stopping.
	I don't care what the judges think.
	I don't care what the left thinks.
	We're coming.
	So when you see these judges trying to obstruct your efforts to make this country safer, what is your message to them?
	We are going to prosecute you and we are prosecuting you.
	I found out about this the day it happened.
	We could not believe actually that a judge really did that.
	We looked into the facts in great depth.
	That's her picture up on the screen, Hannah Dugan, who is now in custody.
	W Clunkhom punched.
	That's fucking ridiculous that she did that.
	Like, bro, completely unacceptable.
	She impeded their ability to pick up a violent fucking illegal alien in her courtroom.
	Like, bro, absolutely fucking wild.
	You cannot obstruct a criminal case.
	And really, shame on her.
	It was a domestic violence case of all cases.
	And she's protecting a criminal defendant over victims of crime.
	We've actually just had an initial appearance in court.
	There's also this other case coming out of New Mexico.
	Judge Joel Cono and his wife were arrested for harboring a TDA member at the.
	Okay, so that makes sense.
	When they arrested that male judge, that might be the HSI case.
	So this one out of Wisconsin is FBI.
	And then we got this one out of.
	Okay, now it makes sense.
	It's two separate cases.
	All right.
	So District of New Mexico.
	Okay, so we're going to go back, guys.
	That's what you do, right?
	We're going to go back to PACER, right?
	Google.
	We're going to go PACER, District of New Mexico.
	Boom.
	Come in here.
	Similar setup.
	Log in.
	Click this button.
	And you're going to go query.
	We know his last name is what?
	Okay, we'll go Kano.
	So Kano, first name, Jose Luis Kano.
	So we'll just go Jose.
	Run the query.
	The fuck?
	Okay, let me try Jose Luis then.
	Bruh.
	all right let me try nancy then the Yeah, this one I think is an HSI case.
	Yeah, this one is HSI case.
	So the one out of Milwaukee, FBI, this one, HSI.
	Two different judges basically holding on or supporting illegal aliens.
	Why the fuck can I not find this, though?
	Did they not file the criminal complaint yet or what?
	Okay, let's go back to this shit.
	Their home.
	The alleged TDA member had been picked up by law enforcement, and now he and his wife were picked up and arrested.
	And you say that.
	Yeah, you can see HSI grabbed them.
	So two separate cases.
	This is Last Cruises, New Mexico.
	I believe, as the Attorney General, that the person that they were having living at their home.
	FBI is there too.
	You can see that.
	Was a truly potentially bad individual.
	Yeah, that's the judge up on the screen now who got arrested.
	Yeah, his name is Ortega.
	He was a known, is a known TDA member, known TDA member.
	So he comes through Eagle Pass January, December 20th.
	And guys, since they labeled Trende Aguas as a terrorist organization, it gives them way more latitude to go after these guys far more aggressively.
	That's why they're arresting these judges and doing all this shit and going after them so hard because when you're labeled a terrorist organization, an enormous amount of resources are made available to the feds to be able to cook.
	You know what I mean?
	And go after these dudes.
	2023.
	He's living in our country.
	January 2025.
	They get a tip.
	Tom Homit's done a great job.
	Our FBI did a great job on this case, too.
	They get a tip that he is living with a judge and the judge's wife.
	That's wild.
	So they have him arrested first on immigration charges.
	A judge, Damien Martinez, releases him, saying that Judge Kano has a good BS meter and wouldn't let just anyone live on.
	There he is with a gun.
	Dude's an illegal alien with guns.
	What the fuck?
	And that's why they probably wanted to go after him.
	Why the hell is this not?
	This is the district of New Mexico.
	Why is it not showing up, dude?
	Fuck it.
	I'm just going to go.
	Kano.
	Yeah, this is not.
	let's see if we can find no sigh Because they probably have a second last name.
	Very Hispanic thing.
	We know Nancy.
	Okay, let me try this.
	Is this it?
	Hey, we got it, baby.
	We got it.
	Let's go.
	All right.
	All right.
	So I got to get myself a pat on the back for that one.
	All right.
	So here she is.
	Conspiracy to tamporal evidence.
	All right.
	Here's a criminal complaint for this case.
	This is a New Mexico case now.
	So let's see.
	Okay, boom.
	So Brianna Virgil, HSI special agent.
	So this is out of another one, conspiracy to tamporal evidence.
	I further stamped my homeland secretary investigation special agent.
	Bam.
	Okay, so Brianna Vigil, there she is.
	So HSI Les Cruz initiated investigation.
	Lopez, that's alleged he's an illegal alien from Venezuela.
	They saw him with guns.
	Boom.
	This is a very short affidavit.
	Okay.
	So yeah, so basically harboring.
	Very, very short affidavit on this one.
	As you guys can see, maybe the judge, is she a judge too?
	I don't think she's a judge.
	This girl, let me try.
	Let me try.
	Jose.
	Okay, this is the other guy.
	He might have more charges.
	Yep, here he is right here.
	Boom, doctor report.
	Run report.
	So he also got a criminal complaint.
	Let's see if he got charged with the same shit.
	Tampering with evidence.
	Okay.
	So yeah, basically, same thing.
	So both of them got charged with the same stuff.
	So they did a search warrant on February 28, 25.
	They did the search warrants, described, were executed.
	And Ortega was taken into custody agents permitted Ortega to make a phone call before being transported.
	They gave him a mobile device that he seized.
	Let's see here.
	April 24th, 2025.
	HISI agents can do a search warrant at the residence of Jose and Nancy Connolly looking for Wolves Belito Ortega's cell phone that was not recovered on February 20th, 2025.
	And for Nancy Cano's cell phone, after being advised of his marriage rights, Jose agreed to speak to agents.
	What a dumbass.
	You're a judge, bro.
	So during the interview, he admitted, among other things, he was destroyed the cell phone that Beleno Ortega by smashing with a hammer.
	Bruh, what a dumbass judge.
	What the fuck?
	Wow.
	On his property.
	Yeah, I mean, when you look at the associations with this violent Venezuelan gang, Trende Aragua, and this person that they harbored in their home, he was showing signs through clothing, we were told, tattoos.
	There was evidence through voice messages and text messages of his association to TDA.
	So what charges will Kano and his wife face, if any?
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	We're growing, though.
	We're growing.
	Channel's blowing up.
	Judge Kano, soon to be former Judge Kano, his charges were just unsealed.
	He's charged.
	Yeah, bro is an idiot, man.
	He literally talked to agents without a lawyer.
	What a dumbass.
	With obstruction.
	He is charged.
	He admitted post-Miranda.
	He took one of the TDA members' cell phones himself, took it, beat it with a hammer, destroyed it, and then walked to the early life.
	Yeah, after I get off stream, we'll do it.
	He says to a city dumpster to dispose of it to protect him.
	The wife also is charged with destroying evidence.
	Look, there's a picture of him right there with them.
	Sandra, not only that, this TDA member, and he had on a necklace that said kill something about death.
	He had tattoos all over him.
	He also had on his cell phone pictures of two decapitated victims.
	Two victims.
	Bruh had that shit on his phone.
	Decapitated gruesome photos, and he was sending them out.
	And whoever he was sending them to was sending back, saying, hey, you need to be careful.
	You shouldn't be sending these.
	You shouldn't be texting these photos out.
	Not only that, these two, the judge and his wife gave him assault rifles that belonged to their daughter.
	That's what they're charged with.
	In the criminal report affidavit, he goes to a shooting range with these assault rifles with a suppressor with other known TDA members in their shooting.
	This is the last person that we want in our country, nor will we ever tolerate a judge or anyone else harboring them.
	Let me, if I could, Madam Attorney General, come back to the Wisconsin case and Judge Hannah Dugan.
	Because in allegedly letting the perpetrator and the attorney out through a non-public exit and allowed them to get out in front of the building, we had a situation where we've seen that I know Tom Homan was complaining about in Colorado, where there would be no transfer of a defendant from a jail to ICE custody on a detainer request in a way that was orderly and protected public safety.
	They would dump them off in a parking lot and then ICE would have to chase them around with the DEA or whatever or FBI and pick them up.
	This ended up in a foot chase in public sight.
	It says here, a foot chase ensued.
	The agents, and this was a DEA agent, an FBI agent, pursued Flores Rubies for the entire length of the courthouse, ultimately apprehended him near the intersection of West State Street and 10th Street.
	So the judge apparently has created a situation here where you have a public foot chase.
	And we all know that while sometimes they can be, they can come off without incident, they can also turn into very dangerous situations.
	John, that's exactly right.
	She put the lives of our law enforcement officers at risk.
	She put the lives of citizens at risk, a street chase, which is absurd that that had to happen.
	And I guarantee you guys, if the big reason why they went after her is because they had to do the foot chase.
	If they didn't have to do the foot chase, she might have not got arrested.
	But since they had to do the foot chase and he was able to basically get out the courtroom without being detected, because the whole purpose of arresting him in the government building, guys, was specifically so that he would be unarmed.
	And they knew that he was sanitized.
	So for her to facilitate him not just getting out of the building, but then him running after the fact and they had to chase him down, that is the big problem here that created a lot of the issues.
	But yes, she put a lot of people at danger, in danger.
	That judge did it.
	So did the other judge, Judge Kano, is charged with, they were allegedly giving him assault rifles, AK-47s, AR-15s, with a suppressor, a known TDA member, letting him go to a shooting range to refine and perfect his shooting skills.
	What's happened to our judiciary is beyond me.
	Yeah, so when the American public hears this and they think these were once upstanding people in their communities and their professions, and they put it all on the line for this, have you dug into their motive?
	Talisman says, I'm highly satisfied seeing this shit happen, Myron.
	I know we didn't get any F-signed action from Pam, but this shit is a big win.
	Yeah, this is a big win that they're going after these stupid ass judges.
	Like, that is 100% facilitating.
	And I'd be pissed off too and want to charge the judge because, yeah, she put them in danger, dude.
	Like, who knows?
	You know, if he was able to, you know, what he would have tried to do once he got out there, if he would have tried to get a gun or whatever, it put the agents at huge risk by her doing that.
	So that is why they absolutely indicted her.
	So, or, well, they charged her with a criminal complaint, but she is going to be indicted for sure.
	They're going to make an example of her.
	So any of these wokey ass judges that want to sit there and harbor illegal aliens, like, nah, bro.
	Like, what inspired them to carry out?
	I'll be honest with y'all.
	They were being nice.
	If it were me, let's say I was there.
	And like, let's say, let's go into a dream world, right?
	I got a final order of deportation, right?
	I got an administrative warrant, and I know he's in the building.
	Once I see him, I could take him.
	It doesn't matter.
	Now, obviously, they were being polite and nice and diplomatic by saying, all right, look, we'll grab him after he does his hearing.
	But once the judge was on some bullshit, like, oh, I'm going to have you go talk to this other judge and all this other shit.
	I'd be like, man, we're not doing that.
	Just so you know, this is a courtesy that we are even like waiting until he finishes his hearing, but I can go grab him right now.
	Okay.
	So I'm going to wait out here.
	I'm not going anywhere.
	I'm going to wait here until he comes out and I'm going to take him.
	Okay.
	Otherwise, I'm going to go in there and take him.
	He's not even supposed to be here.
	He's here for a criminal fucking case.
	So the fact that he's even in this courtroom because he committed a crime is the problem.
	So the DO, the deportation officer was being a bitch.
	He let this judge bully him, fucking distracted his ass, put him in another room.
	Thank God the DEA agent didn't get caught and he was just sitting there and they didn't know he was an agent and he was able to follow the guy out.
	But, you know, they were being too nice and the judge took advantage and then bam, next thing you know, they're chasing this thing in the street.
	So yeah, bro, if it was me, I'd be like, fuck no, we're not doing that.
	I got a warrant for his arrest.
	I am doing you a courtesy by even letting you finish your stupid ass hearing.
	Because honestly, this is a waste of time.
	A hearing for what?
	This nigga's getting deported.
	He shouldn't even be here.
	Get the fuck out of here.
	Waste of taxpayer money and time.
	I'm taking this nigga now.
	The fuck, man.
	So, yeah, this is going to send a good message to all these judges.
	These acts and harbor criminals.
	They're deranged is all I can think of.
	I cannot believe.
	I think some of these judges think they are beyond and above the law, and they are not.
	And we're sending a very strong message today.
	If you are harboring a fugitive, we don't care who you are.
	If you are helping hide one, if you are giving a TDA member guns, anyone who is illegally in this country, we will come after you and we will prosecute you.
	We will find you.
	If I could just finish off with this idea, very significant development that you're arresting judges now.
	Now, it could be that the judges have engaged in terribly bad behavior and deserve to be arrested.
	But you know what critics will say?
	They'll say, oh, this is that this is melting down.
	The government that is expanding the powers of the Article 1 of the Constitution, now they're arresting judges.
	How do you respond to that?
	No one is above the law, John.
	No one is above the law in this country.
	And if you are destroying evidence, if you are obstructing justice when you have victims sitting in a courtroom of domestic violence and you're escorting a criminal.
	Yeah, like the dude was literally there like because he committed another crime of violence.
	Like what the fuck?
	Criminal defendant out a back door.
	It will not be tolerated and it is a crime in the United States of America.
	Doesn't matter who you are.
	You're going to be prosecuted.
	Madam Attorney General, great to see you in the studio.
	Great to see you.
	Okay.
	Appreciate you.
	Yeah, this is a Debbie for the DOJ.
	That's wild.
	Back here two live now from Fox.
	I'm Andrew Kraft.
	Live now look there over Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
	Charges of obstruction.
	After evidence.
	Thankfully, our agents chased down the perp on foot, and he's been in custody since.
	But the judge's obstruction created increased danger to the public.
	He says, we will have more to share soon and says, excellent work, FBI Milwaukee.
	Now, what almost became the story was the fact that the first iteration of this post was swiftly deleted.
	And then this was republished, reposted on social media.
	So wanted to get that in there as well.
	This is the judge in question, though, that has been arrested.
	Look at her, bro.
	She literally...
	Oh, this is from February 2012?
	She looks worse now.
	There you see her, Hannah Dugan.
	Now, she appeared briefly today in federal court in Milwaukee before being released from custody.
	Her next court appearance is May the 15th.
	Her attorney said this to the Associated Press, quote, Judge Dugan wholeheartedly regrets and protests her arrest.
	It was not made in the interest of public safety, her attorney says.
	He declined to comment to an AP reporter following her court appearance, though.
	Now, according to the Associated Press, a person answering the phone Friday at Dugan's office said he could not comment.
	The AP also left an email and voicemail this morning seeking comment from the Milwaukee County Court's chief judge, Carl Ash.
	Yeah, Milwaukee is super woke, Chad, just so you guys know.
	Blue City for sure.
	Now, the DOJ in January ordered prosecutors to investigate for potential criminal charges against state and local officials who obstruct or impede federal functions as potential avenues for prosecution.
	A memo cited a conspiracy.
	I've been telling you guys that this has been a problem for a long time with these sanctuary fucking cities.
	These judges are out of fucking control, bro.
	Like, they think that they can, like, just sit there and like impede feds from doing their job, especially when it comes to like removing illegal aliens.
	Like, this guy's a crook, bro.
	Like, but these blue cities literally, like, they don't give a fuck.
	They don't give a fuck.
	So this is good that this sends a message out that if you dickheads are going to go ahead and impede the feds from removing illegal aliens, you're going to go to jail too.
	Conspiracy offense, as well as a law prohibiting the harboring of people in the country illegally.
	So when I say this is somewhat unprecedented, it is.
	You have a state judge there arrested, accused of obstructing federal agents there with regard to this undocumented migrant here.
	Well, so many people right now are commenting, including the mayor of Milwaukee, Cavalier Johnson.
	He held a press conference on this in these brief remarks.
	Let's listen.
	...happened there, but I'm saying that the way that they went about this, in this ham-handed, haphazard way that this administration has been doing since day one, it's driving people...
	Okay, this is a Milwaukee mayor talking about the arrest of the Wisconsin judge.
	People away or has potential to drive people away from participating in court proceedings, which makes our community less safe.
	I want people to go to court.
	I want people to have their day in court.
	I want people to hold folks accountable in our judicial system, but the actions of this administration are driving people away from doing that.
	And that's not good for public safety in Milwaukee.
	Do you believe this man should be deported?
	I'm sorry.
	Do you believe this man should be deported?
	I don't know any information about the man.
	I'm talking specifically about the Trump administration's actions as it relates to this case and what they've been doing with immigration overall since he's been president again.
	Like, they're scaring people.
	They're scaring people in this community.
	They're scaring people in immigrant communities all across the United States.
	And when folks don't participate in our judicial system, bad things happen.
	Our community becomes less safe.
	And that's the message that I'm trying to get across.
	Do you believe this sets a dangerous precedent moving forward to future judges that could be arrested for similar actions?
	Quite possibly so, but I hope that the answer is no.
	I mean, if a judge is being arrested in a courthouse, just imagine the chilling effect that it sends to other folks who would otherwise participate in judicial proceedings in our courthouse and not just in the Milwaukee County courthouse, but courthouses across the state of Wisconsin and courthouses across the United States.
	This makes our community less safe, less safe.
	And that's not a good thing for public safety in Milwaukee or anywhere across our country.
	Do you know if this is happening anywhere else?
	I don't know if this is happening anywhere else.
	I haven't seen that.
	I just know that it's happened here.
	And I'm concerned about what happens around public safety on the ground in this city.
	And that's why I'm bringing attention to this right now.
	Has a judge ever been arrested in the city of Milwaukee inside the courthouse before?
	This dude's a bitch.
	Not to my knowledge.
	Not to my knowledge.
	Mayor, do you know the judge personally or professionally?
	How would you describe her?
	I've had the opportunity to see Judge Diggin around over the years.
	She's been elected since 2016.
	That's the same year that I was initially elected as well.
	So we've seen each other at a number of community events out in Milwaukee over the course of the last nearly 10 years, have you been in contact with any of them?
	The other thing we're going to cover, guys, is some bitch was complaining about me being on Uncensored America.
	We got another student yet again makes a video crying about me being at USC of the victim University of South Carolina will react to that as well.
	That Mr. Ruiz allegedly struck.
	No, no, I have not been in contact with any victims.
	My concern, again, here is strictly about the tactics used as it relates to this judge and what ICE has done as it relates to other individuals who've been arrested in the courthouse.
	It sends a chilling effect to other people who will participate in our judicial process here in Milwaukee.
	And when folks do not step up, when folks do not participate in the judicial process, that makes our community less safe.
	That's the message here.
	The actions of the Trump administration are making our community less safe.
	That's not a good thing for public safety in Milwaukee, and that's not something that I want to see as mayor.
	Have you been in touch with the chief judge at the courthouse?
	I mean, this is so new.
	No, I haven't had the chance to be in touch with Chief Judge Ashley.
	I know that he obviously is aware of the situation.
	A number of people watching are watching this as well.
	I know the county executive is.
	I know that Representative Moore is too.
	And all of us are going to continue to pay attention to this.
	I'm concerned about the public safety impacts that it has in the city of Milwaukee.
	I don't want it to send a chilling effect to people who need to participate in our judicial process here in Milwaukee.
	We can do one more question.
	How do you agency your office continue to be involved in this issue?
	We'll continue to monitor the situation and raise our voice to what is happening, what's going on here, and sending a clear signal to President Trump and his administration that their actions are causing public safety to be harmed in Milwaukee.
	If his administration wants to talk about public safety, that's great.
	Let's have that conversation.
	But these actions right now run completely counterclockwise to what he's trying to do, what he thinks he's trying to do, which is make it safe for America.
	This isn't going to make our community safer at all.
	This is going to encourage people not to participate in our judicial process, which makes our city and our communities all across this country less safe.
	Yeah, so let's go ahead and try to track down an illegal alien, go to his house where the agents are way less safe trying to arrest them there with an immigration warrant that won't allow them into the house.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	See, this is a problem when you've got politicians trying to tell you how to do things tactically.
	Like, shut the fuck up, dude.
	I'm not going to go with an immigration warrant to a guy's fucking house that's a member of a gang that we know is violent, right?
	And try to go there where he has the advantage.
	Like, if I know he has a court date, I'm going to show up to the fucking court day and pick his ass up there because I know it's sanitized.
	I know he won't have a weapon.
	I know he'll have gone through security and we're going to grab him there.
	The ICE guys should have been way more assertive and just taken his dumb ass as soon as he walked in the building.
	Like, as soon as the judge came out and said, oh, yeah, you guys got to go talk to this other judge.
	I would have literally looked her in the face and said, I'm taking him now.
	I'm taking him now.
	All right.
	And just take him.
	That's it.
	Fuck out of here, bitch.
	Niggas in front of me.
	I got a warrant for his arrest.
	I'm grabbing his ass because I know that this is where I have the advantage.
	Officer safety all the time.
	And that's the problem with these politicians.
	They're retarded.
	He's got to create a chilling effect.
	People aren't going to go to the courtroom.
	Yeah, the illegal aliens, baby.
	Everybody else is going to go.
	Fucking idiots.
	Thank you, everybody.
	Thank you.
	All right, the mayor of Milwaukee, there, Cavalier Johnson, with his thoughts, his reaction to the arrest of the judge there, Anna Dugan.
	In the meantime, we're hearing reaction from Wisconsin lawmakers, including Democratic Senator Tammy Baldwin, saying this: President's administration arresting a sitting judge is a gravely serious and drastic move, and it threatens to breach those very separations.
	No, they deserve to get arrested.
	The Democrats are going to melt down.
	I already see, I see Tim Poole's live right now talking about this shit, too.
	Which, by the way, guys, I will be on Timpool on the 30th.
	Okay.
	Also, I'm going to be on with Viva Frey on Monday.
	Okay.
	4 p.m., 4 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
	I'm going to be on with Viva Frey.
	So we're going to be talking about a bunch of stuff.
	He's going to interview me.
	We're going to dual stream it.
	So I'll be live here.
	He'll be live on his stream.
	It's going to start early.
	We're going to go at 4 p.m.
	And we're just going to shoot the shit, man.
	We're going to have a good time.
	He's a fellow Rumble creator.
	I like him.
	He's come on the show before.
	I think he's a Canadian attorney, if I'm not mistaken.
	So 4 o'clock with Viva Frey.
	Monday, Wednesday, I will be over up in the great state of West Virginia with your boy Tim Poole.
	I don't know what the topic is.
	He typically covers the news of that day.
	So whatever's trending, we'll cover it.
	You guys know I'm diversified.
	You know, we could chat about whatever.
	So no debrief on Wednesday.
	So we got debrief on Sunday.
	Comment below, by the way, guys.
	What do you guys want for Sunday?
	What do you guys want me to react to?
	What criminal case do you guys want?
	You know, I think I'm going to do a poll here on it.
	Name some cases that you guys want for Sunday.
	But yeah, so we got, we're cooking, chat.
	We're cooking.
	I told you guys we are going to take over 2025.
	We're going to definitely take over 2025.
	Okay.
	Political cultural, true crime commentary, super diversified.
	You guys know, right?
	I don't want to toot my horn too much, but I'm the most diversified streamer on this bitch.
	All right.
	I could literally talk about anything.
	So, where the beanie with Temple while JQing?
	Yeah, that's funny.
	So, so yeah.
	So, yeah, we're going to definitely be cooking chat.
	So, Sunday, Fed reacts true crime.
	I see you guys already suggesting some cases.
	Tori Lane's already covered Tori Lane's Max B. Chinks.
	Nigga said, Deuce area?
	What are you talking about?
	to Syria.
	9-11, I already did that.
	Anyway, so yeah.
	So we're going to go here.
	Also, guys, we're going to go live on Fresh and Fit at around 10-15, 10-30.
	We're going to go live on Fresh and Fit, by the way.
	10-15, 10-30-ish.
	We're going to go live.
	So, yeah.
	All right.
	Let's keep watching this thing.
	So that's Tammy Baldwin.
	We'll be on the lookout for more and more reaction.
	Attorney General Pam Bondi, though, with this, saying I could confirm that our FBI agents just arrested Hannah Dugan, a county judge in Milwaukee, for allegedly helping an illegal alien avoid an arrest by ICE.
	She says no one is above the law outside the courthouse live right now.
	They are in Milwaukee.
	Is one of these protests in support of Dugan?
	We'll get out to that in just a moment, though.
	Attorney General Bondi appeared today on America's newsroom on the Fox News channel, and here were her first responses and answers posed to her on this story.
	Let's listen.
	Pam Bondi, it's good to talk to you, Pam.
	Good to talk to you.
	So let me read a little bit from the criminal complaint here.
	And Judge Dugan says, despite having been advised of the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores Ruiz, Judge Dugan then escorted Flores Ruiz and his counsel out of the courtroom through the jury door, which leads to a non-public area of the courthouse.
	A foot chase ensued.
	The agents pursued Flores Ruiz for the entire length of the courthouse and ultimately apprehended him.
	According to this complaint, Judge Diggan was visibly angry that ICE was there to arrest Flores Ruiz, even tried to kick the deportation agents out of the courthouse.
	Yeah, and to set the stage for you and Sandra, this was truly horrific.
	This guy was in court being prosecuted by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery.
	He had beat up two people, a guy and a girl, beat the guy, the hit guy 30 times, knocked him to the ground, choked him, beat up a woman so badly they both had to go to the hospital.
	And John, you know, it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate.
	They wanted to cooperate.
	They were sitting in the courtroom with the state prosecutor.
	The judge learns that ICE was outside to get the guy because he had been deported in 2013, came back in our country, commits these crimes, charged with committing these crimes.
	Questioning Attorney General Pam Bondi just this morning on America's newsroom there on the Fox News channel.
	Wanted to get that in as well.
	Let's go out live, though, outside Hannah Dugan's own courthouse in Milwaukee.
	Her supporters pleading on her behalf.
	Let's watch.
	We will not be intimidated.
	You want to know something else?
	We ain't going to be silenced either.
	And we will not let fear take the bench or the streets.
	Because we believe in a justice system that protects the people, not punishes them.
	We believe in courthouses that serve the public, not surveill them.
	And we believe in a Wisconsin where everyone, everyone can walk into.
	Who the fuck is this nigga, bro?
	To a courtroom and feel safe, heard, and seen.
	Yeah, but the dude was here illegally, bro.
	So shut the fuck up.
	It's the problem with these liberals, man.
	Holy.
	Hell yeah.
	To the community, we.
	Hell yeah.
	Yeah, we should be able to go to court where we commit crimes and feel safe, yo.
	You know what I'm saying?
	See you.
	To the immigrants afraid to speak up.
	We see fat ass nigga with a nose ring.
	Stand with you.
	To the public servants trying to do the right thing.
	We've got your back.
	And to anyone who believes in fairness, this fight is yours too.
	Let's stay loud.
	Let's stay united.
	And let's keep building a Wisconsin where justice cannot be shaken because it's grounded in people who have it most.
	And say it one more time so they feel it in that courthouse behind me.
	Courts are for justice, not for raids.
	Courts are for justice, not for rape.
	Courts are for justice, not for rape.
	Thank you.
	I believe Michael Rosen is here now.
	So Michael Rosen, former president of American Federation Teachers Local 212 at MATC and economics professor and former Vols's board member.
	I'm here representing my aunt Miriam, who was arrested by the Nazis in Poland.
	Oh, here we go, bro.
	Here we go.
	This nigga's about to go start crying.
	Here we go.
	When she was nine years old, she survived fascism.
	She survived it.
	And in 1963, she came down to Washington, D.C. with 250,000 others to march and march on Washington for jobs and justice.
	And I'm here representing my aunt, my aunt Chisha, who survived Auschwitz.
	She lost her mother and sister.
	All right, so we got here.
	Jesus, the kid says, we need the fast and furious case.
	I've been waiting for years.
	You know what, Jesus?
	Maybe I'll do the fast and furious, bro.
	Maybe I will.
	Elfer Bonnie is no such thing as an assault rifle.
	Stop using their language.
	None of my 4473s mention assault weapons because they don't exist.
	Another sister, but she survived to tell her story.
	And the story is, we know what fascism looks like.
	Fascism didn't start.
	Chase says, yo, Myron, I work at a store at Columbia, Columbiana Mall, very close to USC.
	As I was checking students out today, I was asking if they saw you.
	Some of the looks I got were very funny, but you definitely are the talk of the campus right now.
	Keep killing it, homie.
	Hey, bro.
	Like I said, man, real niggas, man.
	With gas chambers.
	That's right.
	Oh, man.
	Bro said gas chambers.
	Fascism started by attacking marginalized groups.
	Gypsies, gay people, unions.
	Fascism started by banning books and burning blocks.
	Yeah, but what books did they burn, my friend?
	You don't want to answer that one, do you?
	What do we say in America today?
	We see book banning.
	We see attacks on trans people and gay people.
	We see attacks on brown people and Muslims.
	We see attacks, people being deported because they have took the right to free speech seriously.
	It spoke out against the attacks on the Palestinian people in Gaza.
	We will not stand by.
	Yesterday was Holocaust Remembrance Day.
	If we are to truly remember the Holocaust and the slogan, never forget, never forget me standing up to the Trump administration, standing up for Hannah Dugan, standing up for the immigrants in our country, standing up for the unions in our country, standing up and saying, hell no, hands off our democracy.
	Bro, that's the thing with these liberals, man.
	Bro, it's just like just a bunch of yapping, man.
	All right.
	Let's.
	Oh, okay.
	He did a press conference on this.
	Let me start with you, President Trump just weighing in on the case of this Wisconsin judge.
	What's he saying?
	Yeah, that's right, Kristen.
	Well, he was asked by report to another case that's unfolding.
	All right, let's see what Trump has to say about this shit.
	And then we're going to go into these USC students bitching about me.
	Broader point about the courts holding us back.
	In other words, his administration is really focusing on this issue that they feel that the court system as a whole is getting in the way of his immigration crackdown.
	We heard from the Department of Homeland Security also this afternoon pointing out that this was an undocumented immigrant that did have a criminal record that had entered this country illegally twice.
	And so the White House is also talking about this no-nonsense approach and basically saying that judges who get in the way will be prosecuted.
	Yeah, I mean, that takes me to the next question.
	What are the implications for other judges?
	We know that the president's clashing with a number of courts right now.
	And look, this shouldn't be a surprise in some ways, even though it's quite dramatic.
	This warning to have a judge arrested.
	Interesting to see the difference between the conservative media versus Fox News is all over it.
	Yes, legal aliens, get them out of here.
	But these niggas, I don't know.
	This got great implications.
	In the parking lot of her courthouse.
	But Tom Holman, President Trump's Borders AR, had been saying for a while that if local officials got in the way of their immigration crackdown, that they would take legal action against those local officials.
	He did warn that shit.
	A couple of months ago in late January, we heard that the Justice Department was starting to fuck to investigate a sheriff in upstate New York for doing this very thing, for releasing an undocumented immigrant.
	Still, though, this is a dramatic escalation to have a sitting judge be arrested in the parking lot of her courthouse.
	I should point out, Kristen, back in the first Trump administration in Massachusetts, there was a judge who was indicted for something similar to this, but those charges were dropped when she presigned herself to a judicial review.
	It is just extraordinary the circumstances of this latest arrest.
	We should say, Gabe, that at least two federal judges have indicated they may hold the Trump administration in contempt.
	Is the Trump administration trying to send a message to those judges?
	And I guess just broadly speaking, what message does it say?
	In a way, it's very interesting, Kristen, because this case is different.
	This was a judge that got in the way of the arrest of an undocumented immigrant who had a removal order.
	And the instances that you described, those are federal judges that are getting in the way in the view of the Trump administration of broader policy.
	Yes, President Trump has blasted those federal judges for getting in the way.
	There is one body, though, that he really hasn't, and that's the U.S. Supreme Court.
	He has kind of stayed away from attacking them, knowing that he could end up relying on their rulings.
	But certainly, this is intended to send a message to not just the judiciary, but local officials across the country that they get in the way of the Trump administration's agenda at their own peril.
	And that is truly remarkable when you think of judges now potentially getting arrested for either rulings or things that go on in or outside their courtroom.
	This arrest was supposed to happen in a public hallway.
	The administration says that this judge had no reason to impede those federal agents.
	It's just extraordinary, Gabe.
	Thank you.
	Let me turn to you, Ryan.
	I mean, just to pick up on where Gabe left off, which is what are the details that you're learning about this extraordinary arrest?
	I mean, as Gabe points out, it's not every day that we're reporting on a judge being arrested.
	Yeah, you know, there's a reason why ICE agents like to do these arrests inside of court, and that's because people have to go through a screening process first, right?
	So that originally means they've a weapon on them.
	It makes the situation less dangerous.
	But there's also a reason why judges don't like the idea of these outside federal agents coming into local federal courts.
	And that's because it's going to discourage people from reporting to court.
	And especially in the case of victims as well, if victims are worried that they're going to be picked up on their immigration status, that's going to lead to less cooperation with police officers.
	Well, how about you just don't be an illegal alien, bro?
	How about that one?
	Or beat up on your family members?
	First place, less people are reporting to court.
	So the chilling effect is something that a lot of advocates really worry about in that case.
	But, you know, this is a really fascinating case.
	And the judges obviously push back on this already.
	She issued.
	Yeah, a chilling effect for the legal aliens who shouldn't be here in the first place or committing crimes.
	What the fuck, man?
	This statement.
	But I would note, you know, that arrest in the parking lot, that was something that Kashpatel came out up front and announced before any of the details of this case were available.
	He then took down that tweet.
	And that, you know, they did not extend this judge, the sitting judge, the courtesy of saying that there's been an indictment informing the lawyer working through a process and instead arresting her.
	Whereas, you know, Donald Trump was extended that courtesy with his two criminal cases before.
	They did not arrest him in a parking lot.
	They, you know, they, Jackson's team took a different approach there.
	So that was, you know, an escalation, I think, the idea of arresting a sitting judge in the parking lot.
	What do you make of Cash Patel tweeting and then taking the tweet down?
	What's behind that?
	Yeah, you know, we don't quite know.
	But I mean, just these, it's very unusual to have these very sort of charge statements from both the FBI director and from the attorney general about these cases because they could impact that case down the line.
	You know, that's something that defense attorneys would love to pick on and whether or not this was a really political case and like make that case to the jury or could you know could impact the case in many ways down the line.
	It's very unusual.
	Ryan, very quickly, what are you watching for next in this case?
	I mean, the next hearing, you know, there's going to be a hearing in this.
	And what happens to the judge's docket as the rest of these cases are playing out?
	Boyce, that's a big outstanding question, guys.
	Thank you so much, Ryan and Gabe.
	Really appreciate it.
	Danny, let me turn to you now and get the legal perspective based on the allegations put in the criminal complaint.
	Does it sound like Judge Dugan did obstruct the arrest of an undocumented immigrant?
	What do you all right?
	So let's go ahead.
	We're going to segue into this now.
	This one of these, well, actually, we'll finish watching this and we'll get into the uncensored America thing because that's going to be funny.
	What do you make of the facts of the case?
	There are two separate charges.
	The lead charge and the more serious, and I say more, only slightly more serious, is the obstruction of a proceeding, which requires, due to recent amendments, that the person doing the obstructing do so with a corrupt purpose.
	And this language is hazy enough that it is somewhat defensible.
	I think the government's stronger case is the lesser crime of harboring a fugitive.
	And if you look at the statute, it seems pretty close to what the alleged facts are, at least what we're hearing so far.
	So it may be the case that the obstruction of the proceeding is more defensible than the lesser charge, but both are felonies and both, and frankly, every charge in federal court is serious.
	Danny, just zooming out a little bit.
	I mean, is there a precedent for arresting a judge under these circumstances?
	I can't remember reporting on a judge being arrested, quite frankly.
	Yeah, we arrest judges all the time and prosecute them, but not for this kind of conduct.
	Usually it's something involving some kind of corruption or something else, some official misconduct.
	But in this case, it's very clear that the only basis for the arrest is the allegations that she somehow helped spirit away the defendant who was appearing in her courtroom.
	So I'm not aware of these kinds of charges happening before.
	They could have.
	It's entirely possible.
	But this is something that is certainly relatively new applying these two statutes in these circumstances.
	You know, Judge Dugan is a county judge.
	What could that mean about the types of charges that she's facing?
	Could she be more susceptible, for example, to federal charges?
	She is.
	I mean, she's being charged by the federal.
	She's being charged federally.
	And of course, you run into all kinds of problems in terms of your bars with the bar.
	You could be suspended.
	You could certainly be taken from the bench, depending on how that state handles criminal charges against judges.
	But undoubtedly, my expectation is that she would not be hearing any future cases, even if she's out on bail.
	And she will be out on bail.
	There's already been an initial appearance, but likely as not, she will remain out.
	Now, this is not what you would consider an offense where the presumption is that the person is held in custody pending their trial.
	So, she should be out fighting this case.
	But the sad reality is whether you're a judge or just a regular person, the feds have a near over 90% conviction.
	They don't lose, man.
	The fact that they went ahead and went with a criminal complaint and arrested her right after the fact, they didn't even wait to indict her.
	They got a strong case.
	Guys, do me a favor.
	Let's get to 3,000 likes, get 100% engaging, man.
	Channel's growing at a good rate, man.
	We're almost at 20K.
	We're at like 17K new subscribers for the month.
	We're growing.
	I'm trying to set up some things, man, to take over these college campuses.
	You know, we're going to have to save America, chat.
	From the wokeism, and I think I'm the only man that can do it.
	And really, 90% of people will read it.
	One of the few plead guilty.
	Of those that go to trial, over 90% are convicted.
	Wow.
	Daddy, finally.
	Yeah, feds don't lose, bro.
	Before I let you.
	She's absolutely air-fried.
	You go.
	As I was discussing with Gabe, two federal judges have indicated they're willing to hold the Trump administration in contempt.
	Does this arrest potentially send a message to those two judges?
	Not necessarily, but I will say this about the contempt.
	Every day in courthouses across America, attorneys and civilians are held in contempt all the time.
	And the decision-making process happens there in an instant, about as much time as it takes to hit the gavel.
	Notice in these cases that all of these judges are taking so much longer than you would expect to hold someone in contempt.
	Every opinion appears to say, well, this time I mean business.
	And this time I'm finding probable cause.
	And next time I'm finding someone in contempt.
	And you know what?
	I don't blame them.
	Because if you find someone in the Trump administration in contempt, the next very difficult question is, who in the heck do you hold in contempt?
	Is it some lying prosecutor?
	Is it an FBI agent?
	Is it the only person in the executive branch who can't say, my boss told me to do it?
	And the only person who can't say that is the president.
	All right, Danny Savalas, as always, we appreciate your insights.
	Thank you so much.
	Great to see you.
	Thanks for watching.
	Stay updated about breaking news and top stories.
	All right, let's get into so this girl girl crashed out and wrote a letter to the university because of my speech.
	Bro, this is hilarious.
	Yo, these college students are such bitches.
	South Carolina president and board of trustees.
	Dear President, I'm Aritis, the University of South Carolina Board of Trustees, donors, faculty, and staff, and my fellow students.
	I am deeply saddened and disappointed by the continuous approval of visits from conservative right-wing activists on this campus.
	According to the inclusive excellence page on the official University of South Carolina website, the university claims the University of South Carolina values inclusive excellence.
	Our campus community can truly thrive only when those of all backgrounds and experiences are welcomed and respected.
	Due to the continued welcoming of such activists on our campus, I and many of my peers do not feel welcomed or respected.
	See, this is why, do you guys see now why I say all the time that like we can't put women in positions of power?
	Like, dude, if you don't think the way that they think, they automatically get offended, triggered, want to silence you.
	Like, these bitches don't understand the First Amendment.
	They really don't.
	They really don't.
	It's really fucking embarrassing.
	Incredible, man.
	And the fact that she recorded herself doing this stupid ass video thinking that she's intelligent, like, this is the problem.
	This is why guys like me, right, need to go to these college campuses and tell these women how stupid they are.
	Really?
	Crazy.
	I want to begin by stating the difference between free speech and hate speech.
	Let's see what she's going to say on this one.
	According to the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
	If this is what you claim to be achieving during these visits, then you have succeeded.
	There is an amount of respect given for free speech and the opinions these groups invoke within the student body.
	However, according to the American Library Association, hate speech includes any form of...
	Uh, who gives a fuck about the American Library Association?
	Are you fucking stupid, bitch?
	What?
	So you go from the Constitution, which is what the forefathers literally crafted to escape the tyranny of England, right?
	Dudes traversed the Atlantic Ocean, battled scurvy, died during these voyages.
	And as soon as they get to American land, what do they do?
	All right, we made it.
	We need to go ahead and make some laws in this bitch.
	What's the first law?
	So that we can speak freely.
	All right.
	What's the second law?
	We need to probably have guns so that we can continue to speak freely.
	All right, let's do it.
	So the first two amendments, literally, literally, are the protection of free speech and then being able to protect it physically through firearms.
	This bitch is trying to compare the U.S. Constitution to the American Library Association.
	What the fuck is the American Library Association?
	What is this?
	Professional organizations company?
	The American is a nonprofit organization based in the United States that promotes libraries and library education internationally.
	It is the oldest and largest library association in the world.
	What?
	Yo, do you guys see now why I say college students are fucking retards?
	Holy shit.
	She goes from the U.S. Constitution, which is what our forefathers constructed, and she's trying to put that in the same sentence as the American Library Association's definition of hate speech.
	And fucking credible.
	Incredible.
	How stupid people are.
	But anyway, let's go ahead and see what this bimbo's got to say.
	We'll hear her out.
	But I find it incredible that she's literally like goes from the U.S. Constitution to the American Library Association, a random non-for-profit.
	Association, hate speech includes any form of expression through which speakers intend to vilify, humiliate, or incite hatred against a group or a class of persons on the basis of race, religion, skin color, sexual identity, gender identity, ethnicity, disability, or national origin.
	I believe the messaging from the uncensored America chapter at the University of South Carolina and their guests align with this definition.
	Okay, cool.
	Let's go ahead and say that that aligns with your definition of the American Library Association.
	Who cares?
	Okay?
	They're not an authority over the Constitution, you stupid bitch.
	What the fuck?
	This is American education, chat.
	This is where we stand.
	You guys wonder why so many of these college students are fucking retards?
	Because of shit like this.
	This girl literally, literally pulls out her phone, says, I'm going to record myself and give a statement.
	And she's reading from like a prompter.
	So she actually wrote this down thinking, yeah, I'm going to get this guy.
	The American Library Association, their definition of hate speech aligns with what this guy, Myron Gaines, was saying at this uncensored America event.
	Let me use this.
	But she stupidly referenced the Constitution first, which supersedes the definition from a private fucking not company.
	That isn't like what?
	An NGO, whatever the fuck.
	These are, they're all funnel shells anyway.
	But the point I'm trying to make is you can't talk about the Constitution and then go ahead and talk about the American Library Association.
	The two, it doesn't.
	Wow.
	What an idiot.
	Yesterday, April 22nd, 2025, Myron Gaines, the host of Fresh and Fit, visited the university on the Russell House patio.
	The tagline for this visit was why women deserve less.
	I believe the intent of this man and his team was to undermine and devalue women on this campus.
	The timeline page on the university website says, in 1893, the state legislature mandated that women be allowed to enroll.
	Now, only 132 years later, women who study and strive for academic excellence continue to be undermined by this university.
	I do not see how this speaker benefits any demographic on this campus.
	This rhetoric is harmful to women.
	See, that's the problem.
	Because they can't speak up, stupid.
	The reason why you can't see how it doesn't benefit anybody on campus is because they can't talk about this stuff, dumbass.
	Because they know that retards like you are going to film themselves speaking in their room, trying to compare the American Constitution to the American Library Association's definition of hate speech and try to bring some kind of parallel and say, yeah, this is why this guy should be there because though the First Amendment exists, it's hate speech according to the American Library Association.
	The two don't even make sense.
	Non-sequitur.
	Like, are you stupid?
	Like, what is this?
	Right?
	And this is a girl that's a college student.
	She should be able to make cogent, salient arguments, right, based on reason, logic, and fact, but she can't even do that.
	And she's sitting here saying, oh, well, yeah, I don't see how like him being there will benefit anybody.
	Yeah, you don't because people are silenced and can't talk about this.
	That is precisely why people like me have to go to these universities, which are literally run by purple-haired feminists that are fucking retarded and only look at things through a leftist ideology.
	I need to come in and provide the pushback because the men that are on campus, or even some of the women that are on campus, that agree with my worldview on traditional conservative values, guess what?
	They can't talk.
	That is why I'm there.
	And that's why you don't see it.
	But the problem with liberals is they're so fucking dumb.
	They have this gross level of solipsism where they think, okay, if you don't see the world through my lens, fuck you.
	And no one should not see the world through my lens.
	But that's precisely the problem and why we have to have dissonant voices like guys like me that come in and say, well, actually, a lot of people don't see the world through your lens.
	And better yet, they think that your world lens is retarded.
	And I'm here to tell you that to your face.
	But the reason why they can't do that is because they understand that progressives control academia.
	They understand that progressives control the boardrooms.
	They understand that progressives control a lot of the marketing and the advertiser world.
	Okay?
	So people that have different worldviews or different viewpoints simply stay quiet on this topic because liberals cannot actually engage in an intellectual conversation when it comes to ideas, thoughts, mandates, etc.
	Instead, what they try to do is they silence you.
	So this is why, for the better part of the past 10 to 15 years, there's been an explosion in popularity in conservative content.
	It has been a valid response to the overrepresentation and mass censorship of the left.
	Even people that used to be liberals, people like Tim Poole, people like Joe Rogan, et cetera.
	They are now considered right wing.
	That goes to show you guys how far left we have gone.
	The Overton window has shifted.
	And people like this, that sit there and say, I don't see a benefit to bringing someone like this on campus, shows and exposes the less hubris and deep level of solipsism.
	The world revolves around me and you don't agree with me, fuck you.
	Here's the difference.
	I give my speech.
	I have a mic right there.
	Challenge my ideas.
	The left's not willing to do that.
	Instead, what a lot of them did, because they're fucking cowards, what they did was they sat there and heckled me from the side.
	Loser, misogynist.
	Okay, get on the mic and let's go ahead and have a discussion.
	You're a college-educated individual, right?
	Let's go ahead and have a conversation.
	They don't want to do it.
	One guy showed you guys a video yesterday.
	Let me stay up all night.
	What would have I said to him?
	Yeah, because you know that your worldview is fucked.
	You know it doesn't make sense.
	That's why you are not willing to put the rubber to the road and actually have a discussion with someone that is grounded on facts of an opposing worldview that you don't like.
	Because you've been coddled by living on the college campus.
	You've been coddled by living in this weird, strange existence where you don't have real adult responsibilities while living in a college campus.
	The problem with college students, right, and why so many of them are overwhelmingly liberal is because they don't live in the real world, chat.
	They're in a Disney fucking fairy tale.
	The average college student's life goes something like this.
	Wake up at 10 a.m., go to the chow hall, have breakfast, okay?
	Don't pay for anything, by the way.
	Then you go to class, sit there, surfing the web a little bit, listening to a professor lecture.
	Okay, I got the syllabus.
	All right, cool.
	Got to do a paper, whatever.
	Maybe you spend about 30 minutes actually paying attention, the other two hours fucking off.
	Then you go to another class, okay?
	Then you get like a two, three-hour break, you go get some lunch, go back to your dorm room, take a nap, right?
	Then you get up again.
	Maybe you got one more class or you're done for the day.
	By 2 p.m., you're pretty much finished.
	What do you do the rest of the day?
	Crack open the case stone lights?
	Yeah!
	And they start fucking raging, okay?
	This happens a lot of the times Monday through Friday.
	And if it doesn't happen Monday through Friday, cool.
	It happens from Friday all the way to Saturday.
	The reality is simply this.
	And I can say this because I went to a fucking prestigious school.
	I was in college.
	I was a division one athlete.
	I know how you motherfuckers think, okay?
	You're not going to pull the wool over my eyes.
	Okay?
	You're dressed up vernacular and I'm educated, blah, blah.
	You're all a bunch of fucking retards that drink alcohol, party.
	And let's be honest, college is an acceptable way to spend four years of your life being a fucking degenerate under the pretense of experimenting and getting educated.
	You're not going to pull a wool over my eyes, guys.
	I was a college student too.
	And I was an athlete.
	Thank God it kept me away from a lot of stupid shit.
	But that is the problem.
	So, liberals like that loser that I showed you guys yesterday, heckling me, whatever, they don't want to get on the mic and actually have a discussion because they know that their worldview will absolutely be fucking shattered.
	Because they know that they don't live in reality, being on a fucking college campus.
	If anything, it's an extremely privileged lifestyle.
	And then this girl, let's have a real conversation.
	White women are the most privileged, spoiled, and bratty motherfuckers in America.
	And I said it.
	Basically, white women are able to double dip and get the benefits of being Caucasian while simultaneously being able to get the benefits of being a minority because they're a female.
	By far, the most coddled, spoiled, entitled whiners in America, by fucking far.
	They are able to benefit from DEI, from affirmative action, while simultaneously demonizing their white male counterparts as oppressors.
	And I'm one of the few people that has the balls to call this out.
	White women are there alongside the fucking blacks, the Jews, the Indians, the Muslims, the Asians.
	They're what?
	Right there alongside them saying, yeah, you're so oppressed by white people, but not us.
	It's the white man.
	Ah, yeah, blame him.
	I see it all.
	Because what these college students don't understand is that I'm from New England.
	I speak your language.
	I wore the Sperry boat shoes too.
	I wore the polos, okay?
	I got Nantucket shorts somewhere in my closet.
	I know how you guys think.
	I know how you guys operate.
	You're not going to fool me with the academia and the college degree and the background, all this other bullshit that college universities indoctrinate our young people with.
	So you ain't going to win.
	And her making this argument, right, about hate speech literally exposes her privilege.
	Because she's lived such a fucking coddled life that she has not had her worldview challenged.
	And she had the opportunity to actually challenge my worldviews.
	I opened the mic to anyone that wanted to go there and have a discussion.
	But once again, like I've always said, the left doesn't like to talk to the right.
	They would rather silence them.
	Now, with that said, don't get it twisted.
	Conservatives push for censorship too.
	A lot of them are bitch ass niggas as well.
	Don't get it twisted.
	But if you're pro-censorship on the right, you will deal with the consequences.
	Look at Ben Shapiro.
	Daily Wire is going fucking down because they decided to silence Candace Owens.
	On the right, sorry, on the left, they don't go, fuck.
	They are pro-censorship to a ridiculous degree.
	And they use bullshit terms like hate speech, bigotry, misogyny, racism, anti-Semitism, right?
	Some bullshit ism to rationalize their censorship, like this girl is doing right now.
	And the fact that this is coming from a white girl, the most privileged of all classes in the United States, makes it even funnier.
	Women who face misogyny in every setting in Daily.
	Bro, I just hit the video.
	She says misogyny immediately.
	fucking hilarious.
	...diversity.
	I do not see how this speaker benefits any demographic on this campus.
	This rhetoric is harmful to women who face misogyny in every setting in daily life.
	Um, no, not really.
	Women are more privileged now than ever before.
	There's only a few people like me that call out this wild double standard.
	But the reality is, 90% of social media, most people kiss women's asses.
	Most women, as a matter of fact, think about it this way, guys.
	If women weren't getting their asses kissed all the time, if they weren't, let's assume that misogyny was all over the place and as prevalent as she claims.
	If it was so prevalent, why was I able to draw such a crowd?
	Why was everyone so insulted and mad?
	Why was everyone so offended?
	The fact that my presence created so much fucking turmoil on campus validates my point that we live in a gynocentric social order.
	Okay?
	If this misogyny was so prevalent as she's trying to claim, right?
	I would not have caused that much outrage.
	You guys want to know something?
	If I went to fucking Saudi Arabia or the UAE, right?
	And I set up a table and said, women deserve less, no one would give a fuck.
	You want to know why?
	Because in those societies, they are patriarchies, strong patriarchies.
	They understand that men and women are different.
	And they understand when I say women deserve less.
	No one will give a fuck if I set up a table in the Middle East.
	But they only give a fuck here because we kiss women's asses.
	So she's actually wrong.
	This image is agendy.
	No, there isn't.
	And that is precisely why I was able to set up a table there, talk about this taboo topic, and everyone was fucking losing their mind.
	Anyway, let's keep cooking.
	This opens the door to discrimination against students of color, LGBTQIA plus students, disabled students, and international.
	Now there's an I added to this shit.
	What the fuck is going on?
	Qualcombe!
	Pawn!
	Did she say LGBTQI?
	That's where we are now?
	National students.
	I would also like to emphasize that this event is harmful to men as well.
	Okay, let's see how it's harmful to men.
	The male loneliness epidemic on platforms like TikTok provides a space for men to express feelings of loneliness and isolation.
	How can men seek to better themselves if they tick tock is not male-friendly whatsoever.
	They literally ban all the pro-masculine content.
	What is this bitch talking about?
	Remain intransigent in their derogatory stance against women.
	This university continues to preach for diversity and inclusive excellence while simultaneously inviting antagonistic speakers.
	Okay, so hold on.
	So it's only inclusive when they bring people in that you want.
	Hey, dumbass, do you understand that inclusivity means even things that you might not like or agree with?
	Dumb fuck?
	These girls don't understand.
	Like, a lot of these college students use these like buzzwords and they don't even know the definition of them half the time.
	If you want to go ahead and promote inclusivity and allowing all people in, that means by definition, people are going to be included that you disagree with.
	You dumb whore.
	Like Myron Gaines and Charlie Kirk to this campus.
	Bruh, Charlie Kirk is way cleaner than me, chat.
	Charlie Kirk is way cleaner than me.
	I no longer see the value in the oath I swore to the Carolinian creed.
	The Carolinian Creed?
	Hey, you dumb bitch.
	This is not, you know, the United States of States of South Carolina University or University of South.
	This is the United States of America.
	Okay?
	Fuck you talking about you took an oath to the creed, you dumb bitch.
	You live in the United States.
	There's a Constitution for the United States.
	And the First Amendment within it is freedom of speech.
	Okay?
	Nobody gives a fuck about your Carolinian creed.
	Nobody gives a fuck about your American Library Association.
	Nobody gives a fuck about any of this shit.
	You dumb whore.
	What the fuck?
	Creed states, I will discourage bigotry while striving to learn from the differences in people, ideas, and opinions.
	Too bad the Constitution overrides this stupid ass creed that you took an oath to, you stupid bitch.
	Qualcombe!
	Pound!
	Holy shit, man.
	We just need to go back to telling people they're stupid, bro.
	No one is sold.
	The reason why she speaks in this way, chat.
	So this is also something that I need to let you guys know when it comes to privileged white girls that go to college.
	No one ever tells them they're stupid, okay?
	Very few guys actually have the balls to say, stop talking, you're stupid.
	So what ends up happening since no one tells them that they're stupid, they say a lot of stupid stuff without ever being checked because men want to sleep with them.
	So in this case, you have a girl saying, I took a Carolinian, a Carolinian creed or some other fucking bullshit.
	I'm assuming it's maybe her sorority or some kind of club on school.
	Hey, retard.
	The school is located in the state of South Carolina.
	South Carolina is a state within the United States of America.
	So the United States of America has a constitution which has laws and amendments and everything else like that to ensure that we have certain rights and privileges protected.
	The law of the land supersedes this stupid creed that you took an oath to, you dumb whore.
	See, you're trying to dress up your alignment with this creed in fancy language, trying to disguise the fact that you're actually a retard and don't understand that there is a superseding rule of law here.
	And it is not your school creed, you dumbass.
	Opinions.
	Because of these events, I no longer feel the Gamecock spirit, and I am continuously embarrassed to say that I am enrolled in this university.
	It is clear.
	Then go somewhere else.
	Go somewhere else.
	Go to a private school.
	Go to a private school where they don't allow free speech like this.
	But this university does not care about its minority students.
	And the main focus of this board is the checks these students give them.
	If you continue to Yeah, welcome to capitalism, dumb whore.
	Again, privileged, stupid white girl doesn't understand how the world works.
	Yeah, it's called capitalism, dummy.
	Invite speakers to represent uncensored America.
	You must include speakers who advocate for social justice and equality for all.
	That's why we gave you guys the ability to speak to us on the mic.
	And instead of going ahead and debating us, you ran away, you record this stupid, pre-recorded video with poorly thought-out logic and arguments, and now you're making yourself look like an idiot.
	I can see why none of you wanted to step up to the mic.
	Not just for the students who benefit from the patriarchy.
	Oh my God, the patriarchy that's allowed you to be privileged and make this fucking video and be able to talk all this shit and say the things that you say.
	Men control the monopoly of force that women are able to enjoy the safety from, man.
	What the fuck?
	I'm tired of these stupid ass bitches constantly crying about the patriarchy, which gives them an enormous amount of benefit, privilege, and protection.
	The patriarchy is why you're able to say the stupid shit that you say.
	Men have the monopoly of force and we allow you to do what you do.
	Incredible.
	In fucking credible.
	I implore you, my fellow Gamecocks.
	I abhor you, my fellow Gamecocks.
	Is that the fucking mascot or some shit?
	Is that the mascot?
	Is that like the school pride?
	Woo!
	Hey, bitch.
	Last time I checked, I'm not a Gamecock.
	I'm a fucking American, okay?
	And last time I checked, University of South Carolina is an America.
	So I think that trumps, no pun intended, this stupid allegiance to a Gamecock.
	To open your eyes and to see the state of this country, universities should advocate for education, personal growth, and inclusivity.
	This university is inviting these hateful.
	But only the inclusivity that we want from the left.
	Not inclusivity of people that disagree with us.
	Don't forget that, guys.
	Remember, liberals, Democrats, progressives, they only want inclusivity if you have their ideas.
	If you don't have their ideas, they don't want you in.
	They don't tolerate you when you're different, though they preach tolerance.
	They want you to accept 99 genders, but they will not accept you criticizing that there's not 99 genders.
	Make that make sense.
	Hateful ideas to faster among the student body, and I will not stand for it any longer.
	Okay, bitch, when I go back, get on the microphone and don't stand for it.
	Tell me why I'm wrong.
	As I step into my adult life, I continue to see the importance of empathy and speaking up for those who cannot.
	There will be people who see this video.
	Yeah, you're only speaking for people that have your worldview.
	What about all the people that agree with me that you're not speaking on behalf of, that are your co-students, by the way, that can't speak on this stuff because they'll be canceled.
	How about that?
	Since you lack, you have all this empathy.
	Why don't you speak for the marginalized men on your college campus, the white guys that were all standing there suddenly nodding with me and agreeing with me, that can't say anything that I say because they know that they're going to be labeled a white supremacist, a white nationalist.
	They're going to get banned from school and get their careers fucking ruined.
	How about that?
	No, you won't speak for them though, will you?
	See, white women sit for everybody else except for white men.
	That's the truth, if we're going to be honest here.
	Because they are the thought leaders and the main movers of DEI affirmative action and this whole victim narrative.
	They literally are able to double dip.
	And I haven't seen many people call them out on this bullshit.
	She only has empathy for people that have her worldview, but she does not have empathy for the thousands upon thousands of men that go to her school that agree with the shit that I say.
	But the reason why they don't say what I say is because they know that women like her and other students on campus, guess what?
	Don't have empathy.
	That's the difference.
	See, the reason why I'm able to destroy liberals so easily and the reason why I'm able to argue with them and articulate my points against them is because I have empathy.
	I know what their worldview is.
	You guys just saw my feed.
	I watch Kyle Kalinsky.
	I watch Hassan Piker.
	I watch the Young Turks.
	I watch CNN.
	Okay?
	I watch Luke Beasley pondering politics.
	I watch a lot of left-wing media, a lot of it.
	Okay?
	And the reason why I watch it is because for you to defeat your enemy, you must understand your enemy.
	And not only do you need to understand your enemy, you need to empathize with said enemy.
	You have to understand why they say the things that they say.
	You need to understand why they articulate it the way that they do.
	You got to understand why they cover certain stories and avoid others.
	See, to be a real good debater, you actually have to empathize with your adversary.
	And you have to watch them.
	So I watch a lot of adversarial left-wing media all the time.
	I actually agree with some of their points on some things, right?
	So that is the difference between someone like me and her.
	She says she's empathetic, but she's really not.
	She's really only empathetic to people that have her worldview.
	Versus me, I listen to the other side.
	That is why I am comfortable going into the battlegrounds, which is the college campuses, which is the Fresh May podcast where we bring these girls in and have a bunch of liberals, whatever.
	I am okay with stepping in and talking to people, right?
	Or going into the enemy's den, as they would say, the hornet's nest, because I understand them.
	I know what they're going to say.
	But girls like her and other progressives, when they have the home field advantage, they got a fucking crowd cheering, they're still scared to get on the mic.
	And that is one of the biggest differences between the left and the right.
	Typically, typically, conservatives will empathize a little bit better with the left because the left is the accepted narrative.
	So in order for you to fight against the left and progressive ideologies, you must understand them.
	Versus the left refuses to accept our ideology most of the time.
	Not every time, but a lot of times they don't like to understand our perspective because they look at it where even entertaining our ideas are disgusting and bigoted and evil.
	So instead of actually engaging in discourse with you or debating you, what they'll do is they'll dismiss your worldview as bad so they can avoid having to have that tough discussion with you where you are going to be far more prepared to challenge their ideas than they are prepared to challenge yours.
	Because like I told you before, to debate liberals, you must empathize with them.
	But liberals don't want to empathize with us at all.
	They just want to kick us out of the curb and say, nah, nah, nah.
	Get them out of here.
	Hate speech, anti-Semitism, racism, bigotry.
	Nah, let's use some pejorative term and get them the fuck up out of here.
	Video and villainize me.
	But I know in my heart that what I am standing for is morally good and right.
	See, that's the other problem.
	It's morally good and right.
	Under what, under what, where do you derive your morality from here?
	Like, what are you talking about?
	I am entitled to my opinions the same way that uncensored America is entitled to theirs.
	But here's the difference.
	You want to silence us from expressing our opinions.
	That's the problem.
	So the question is, what will you, the board of trustees, do about this?
	See, she's trying to silence us.
	First, she says everyone has a right to their opinion.
	Now she's saying, what are the board of trustees going to do?
	This is calling for censorship, chat.
	Will you learn and create a community that celebrates diversity?
	Or will you cower and let this hatred continue to grow?
	I am not afraid to stand for what I believe in.
	All right, bitch, grab a mic next time I'm there.
	We cannot let students spend their hard-earned money on a university that does not value them.
	We must advocate for the voiceless and stand together.
	Behold the remarkable we.
	Forever to thee.
	Oh, she's a sorority girl, of course.
	I guarantee you she's a whore.
	See, this is what I'm trying to say, man.
	Like, this is why so many men don't go to college anymore, bro.
	And like, guys are just refusing to enroll in universities.
	It has become a cesspool of liberal, woke propaganda that's constantly trying to virtue signal and has this, you know, ideology of we need to be inclusive, but in reality, they're exclusive to anyone that has right-wing talking points.
	It's fucking ridiculous, man.
	This chick started off her monologue by referencing the Constitution of the United States and the First Amendment and freedom of speech.
	Then she tried to go ahead and reference the American Library Association to justify what the definition of hate speech is and then didn't even tie the two together properly.
	Like, if this woman wasn't retarded, she would understand that hate speech quite literally is protected by the First Amendment.
	And the reason why it's protected is because hate speech is the speech that is going to be scrutinized and criticized and the target of censorship at the highest level.
	Nobody cares when you have speech that isn't offensive.
	It's the speech that is offensive that action needs to be protected, which is why the First Amendment was created in the first place.
	But the fact that I even have to explain this to this college-educated woman proves my point of what I've been saying for a very long time.
	Women are stupid.
	They interpret a lot of things through their emotions.
	They're not able to logically break down scenarios and think about things from a critical standpoint.
	This is why they should have positions of leadership.
	This is why they should not be in positions where serious decisions are being made that can have serious consequences and ramifications on others.
	And quite frankly, this is why a lot of them are low IQ and why I say a college degree does not necessarily mean that you're intelligent.
	As someone who's a college grad, went to Northeastern University, 6% fucking acceptance rate, very prestigious cool.
	In Boston, right across the street from MIT and Harvard, I will fucking tell you guys that university is a fucking scam.
	And I should be telling y'all all day, no, go to college, go to college, I'm a college grad.
	No, it's bullshit.
	And I went back in 2013 before it got super woke like it is now.
	It is 10 times fucking worse.
	When I walked on that fucking college campus and I saw the amount of woke retards on there that didn't like what I had to say, guys fucking virtuousing, people heckling, but not getting on the mic, I was like, wow, this is an extreme level of cowardice that I have not seen in a very long time.
	Wild.
	Absolutely wild.
	And it makes perfect sense why college attendance is absolutely dominated by women.
	If I'm not mistaken, this school in particular, University of South Carolina, is something like 60% women.
	And watch it continue to drop as the years progress on.
	As we get more and more and more woke, you are going to see less and less and less men enroll in universities, guys, because the universities in America, academia in general, has been infiltrated and fucking stolen by female, by the women's gynocracy that's going on right now.
	Gynocentrism has infiltrated and taken over the academic space.
	We are going to get to a point probably within the next 10 to 20 years where college universities are going to be overwhelmingly female.
	The staff is going to be female and the student body is going to be female.
	Men are walking away from these college campuses because they're tired of Karens like her telling them what they should and should not think.
	They're tired of women like her that are saying that we need to be inclusive while simultaneously excluding the male thought process while simultaneously also insulting the patriarchy.
	The very patriarchy that allows them the ability to wake up at 10 o'clock in the morning, go to class, not take it seriously, cheat on exams, thanks to advanced technology that men made, by the way, go ahead and take a nap, then go party the night away using fucking drugs and alcohol that men fucking created.
	Incredible, bro.
	Incredible.
	The female privilege is to a level that is unprecedented, right?
	Whenever you have times of peace like this, whenever you have, you know, things going on right there, I mean, it's a good sign, right?
	When you got women that are this fucking entitled, that means that we live in really peaceful times because feminism, okay, can only exist in extreme times of peace.
	And this radical feminism that we've experiencing over the past five to ten years can only really exist in times of major peace.
	So I will say that men did a damn good job of civilizing the world, okay?
	To the point that women forgot who civilized the world.
	Did a damn good fucking job.
	But I'll tell you all this, I've said it before and I'll say it again.
	If we had to rely on females to run society, to keep the infrastructure going, to continue to progress the human species, we would be cooked.
	We would absolutely be fucking cooked.
	Absolutely be cooked.
	Because as much as she wants to sit there, talk about the patriarchy, blah, blah, blah.
	The reality is homeless men, criminals, the degenerates, the vagrants, all the losers of society, the majority of them are overwhelmingly men.
	But feminists like her, idiots like her, sit there and always focus on the top 1% of guys that are the geniuses, the multi-millionaires, et cetera.
	I love how feminists always like to cry and say that there's a glass ceiling and women aren't afforded the same rights and they can't do certain things and cry and complain about all this shit, the patriarchy.
	But what they don't realize is though there are men at extreme ends of the spectrum, they always focus on the success end of the spectrum.
	The 1% that have the high accus, that are the innovators.
	But they never talk about the ones that are in prison, that are getting killed, that are homeless, et cetera.
	Because as usual, women want to take the good and leave away the bad.
	They want all the fucking authority with none of responsibility.
	They want to be treated like a lady while simultaneously be taken seriously and be called strong and independent.
	And I'm one of the few people that calls this ridiculous double-dipping standard out.
	Okay?
	Look.
	You want to be treated like a lady?
	Cool.
	But you're going to need to make a fucking sandwich.
	I'm not going to sit here and treat you as an equal, give you all this equal rights and shit when you can't even make a fucking turkey sandwich.
	That's unacceptable.
	It's not fair.
	It's bullshit.
	All right?
	You want me to pay for dates, be a man, also the shit?
	All right, bitch.
	I'll put the Mulan song on.
	Be a man.
	Right?
	I'll put that on.
	But you didn't get your ass in the fucking kitchen, make some goddamn food, and clean the place without me fucking telling you.
	That's how it goes.
	Gender roles are a thing.
	But the problem is that women want to go ahead and change the gender roles based on where they stand.
	Out on a date with a guy that you like, you want him to pay the bill.
	In the workplace, though, oh, no, I want to be treated like an equal.
	Well, you don't have as many responsibilities.
	Oh, but I still want equal pay.
	Wait, what?
	You have like one tenth of my responsibilities.
	Yeah, but I want equal pay.
	I'm a woman.
	And no one calls this shit out.
	No one calls us out.
	Nobody.
	So, anyway, hope you guys enjoyed the stream.
	We're cooking, right?
	Cooking, cooking.
	We're going to wrap this thing up here in a second, guys.
	I think I might, because I'm starving.
	I want to go get some food before we start this stream out with some girls.
	But we are going to do after hours here.
	Let me look at some of these chats.
	If I missed any.
	I don't think I missed any.
	Let me look.
	Sliffry Random for parents or siblings.
	Yep.
	Breaking news.
	Virginia Goyfer, one of Jeffrey Epstein's most prominent abuse survivors, dies by...
	Oh, shit.
	She fucking self-deleted.
	There's still a traditional culture in Rancho in Durango, Mexico.
	Okay.
	That is why when I went to Mexico in a poor era, the women that were more respectful and appreciative than those Arizona, I was called insecure for choosing Mexican women over American women.
	Mary, bro, who gives a fuck what these women say, bro?
	You can't care what women say anymore, bro.
	I literally, like, I don't even...
	When women talk to me, bro, I'm like Charlie Brown.
	Wham, wham, wham, wham, wham, wham, wham, wham, wham, wham, wham, wham.
	The only time I really listen to them is when we're doing Fresh Fit After Hours chat.
	because I got to like, you know, debunk their stupid ass arguments.
	But like when I'm out and about and shit like that, women talking like, you know what I mean?
	It's like, bruh.
	At work, a woman wrote, hello, ladies and germs.
	I called her out saying it was misandrous and wrong.
	She got in trouble with the obvious sided with her saying it wasn't that serious.
	Am I wrong?
	Yeah, my friend, most Americans don't even know what fucking misandry means, dude.
	Like, you lost by using that term, digga.
	If I'll be honest with you.
	Hell, women barely know what misogyny means.
	You think they're going to know what the fuck misandry means?
	Come on, man.
	Come on, bro.
	She literally proved why women deserve less.
	You damn right.
	She definitely did prove why women deserve less with that stupid ass monologue.
	And here's the crazy part.
	She thinks that she ate, bro.
	She probably got done doing that video.
	Like, oh my God, this is going to change the world.
	Dumbass.
	Does this after hours come on this Rumble channel?
	No, guys.
	It comes on Fresh and Fit.
	I will show you right now.
	I don't know if they made the event yet.
	Okay, yeah, they did make the event.
	So, hold on, I'm going to share a screen with you guys right now.
	Russian fit, bam.
	All right, yeah, we got the event.
	This is it right here, bro.
	I'll drop the link for you guys.
	Is it right here?
	For my Rumble ninjas.
	Click there.
	You guys know Rumble is home base.
	I know some of y'all niggas cry.
	We do have it on YouTube as well.
	Here it is on YouTube.
	Okay.
	But you guys know Rumble is the home base.
	So here is the link.
	I'm going to pin it in the chat right now for you guys.
	And then I'll pin the Rumble one here as well.
	I can't pin it one of the mods.
	Can you guys pin it in there?
	is there.
	So, so yeah, guys, after I was coming up in about 30 minutes, I think we're going to start it at either 10 or 10, 15, 10 or 10, going to do it.
	Love you guys.
	Uh, I didn't get to play the world WW3, so we're gonna do it on the fucking outro Kanye West to G. Uh, yeah, I've seen Victim pass away because of uh self-deletion.
	Yeah, I will, um, I'll probably cover this on um, I'll probably cover that on Sunday, bro.
	We'll cover news and true crime shit.
	She wanna happen to Rari, she wanna happen to Rari, she wanna happen to Rari.
	I see that look in your eyes.
	She wanna happen a ride.
	I said that you're ready to die.
	I said that you're ready to die.
	They telling me that I'm a good.
	All right, guys.
	Love you, ninjas.
	We're gonna go.
	Uh, Fresh and Fit going over.
	I dropped the link on the, I think I already rated myself on Rumble.
	Um, so go ahead, guys, jump in there.
	It's three thousand of you guys.
	Just click that way.
	Go go on the YouTube.
	Uh, go on the YouTube link.
	I sorry, the Rumble link I just dropped, or you can watch on YouTube, whatever you guys want.
	I know some of you guys don't want to leave YouTube.
	So, um, Fresh and Fit, guys, YouTube channel, go check it out.
	Love you, ninjas.
	I'll be back in about 30-40 minutes for after hours.
	Went to the dentist and get me some nitrous.
	Shoot them dentists and put up some diamonds.
	and Walking swash the cause, cause all my niggas lose these.

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