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Jan. 6, 2025 - MyronGainesX
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Former Fed Explains The Torso Killer
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Welcome to the stream, Ninjas.
Welcome, welcome.
We're about to turn tonight.
And I got Angie announced for me as well.
She's here.
Let's get into it, my friends.
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Oh, my bad.
I guess I didn't have the, I don't have the Fred Reacts thing preloaded on this on this OBS thing, but I'll bring it back.
But anyway, guys, welcome to the stream.
Hope you guys are having a good night.
I'm here with Angie.
It's been a bit since she's been here.
I've been covering the Dirk stuff and other things, but she's been on a mission right now with this Richard Cunningham, aka our guy, the torso killer.
So Angie, welcome back to the show.
It's been a minute since we've seen you.
How are you?
Don't de Marco.
I miss this space.
I miss being here.
Now, we have a whole new setup, layout, stuff going on behind the scenes.
So I'm really happy to be here, actually.
Thank you for inviting me again.
Yeah, of course.
So yeah, so she was, she's been focusing on doing getting this stuff ready for this episode, actually.
So we have a couple of documentaries that we're going to be reacting to.
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Okay, we are going to be covering everything over there.
So it's going to be a good time.
So today's episode, guys, we're going to be covering Richard Cunningham, man.
And we'll just kind of just hop right into it.
Richard Cunningham, aka the torso killer, aka the Times Square killer.
Yes.
Not to be confused with the crazy person in Ohio right now, from what I understand.
There's like another torso.
They claim a torso killer because there's different ones.
Different ones, okay.
So Richard Francis Cunningham, born November 25th, 1946, an American serial killer who was convicted in New York of six murders committed between 1972 and 1980.
He's still alive to this day.
In New Jersey.
What was that?
He looks like Santa Claus.
He does look Santa Claus, yeah.
Convicted between 1972 and 1980, convicted in New Jersey of 12 murders committed between 1967 and 1978.
He was nicknamed by the media as the torso killer and a Times Square ripper, since some of the murders he was convicted of included mutilation.
Cunningham confirmed killings resulted in nine convictions and a further eight confessions under non-prosecution agreements, leading to him serving multiple life sentences in New York, in New Jersey prisons.
In 2009, decades after his first five murder convictions, Cunningham told a journalist he had committed at least 80 perfect murders of women in various regions of the United States.
Now, I think it's very important because we've talked about this before.
Serial killers, guys, their heyday was the 1970s.
I think by far the 1970s was probably one of the worst decades in American history.
We had rocket high inflation.
Jimmy Carter was in office.
Rest in peace.
He just passed away.
But he is going to go down and was one of the worst presidents in American history.
Worst?
Worst, but for sure.
Really?
Yeah, for sure.
One of the worst.
Who else?
What else?
And all the top serial killers operated in the 1970s, guys.
We have guys like Ted Bundy, Richard Cunningham, a.k.a.
the torso killer.
Jeffrey Dahmer.
John Wayne Casey.
Who?
What was his name?
The Green River Killer.
The Green River Killer.
Yep.
The Toy Box Killer.
The Toy Box Killer operated in the 1970s.
Who else?
The Chicago Ripper Crew, I think.
Chicago Ripper Crew.
Son of Sam.
The Zodiac.
The Zodiac Killer.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did operate in the 70s too.
Yeah.
Late 1960s and the 70s.
Who was actually my favorite?
But what else?
Your favorite serial killer?
Yeah, I like his story the best.
And they never caught him.
They never caught him.
What else?
I'm trying to think.
Who else?
The Golden.
The Golden State Killer operated in the 1970s.
Yep.
Yep.
They didn't catch him until fucking like 2020, damn near.
Who else?
I'm trying to think.
Richard Ramirez.
No, he was 90s.
80s.
Richard Ramirez.
But yeah, man, all the Unabomber.
Yeah, someone just said Unabomber.
Yep.
Unabomber was in the 1970s as well.
Which will react to that movie that we do watch.
We could react to that.
Would have to be on Rumble One.
I haven't finished it.
You know, I want to mention this.
There is a serial killer, and this is just a fun fact that he's probably mentioned in the documentary, but I'm not sure.
There is another child molester, serial rapist serial killer named Ronnie O'Cala that he has an alias of John Berger that actually worked in the same office as this guy in the same time, like at the same time.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
And there is a movie right now with Anna Kendrick, I think her name is.
It's called Woman of the Hour.
And it's right now in the theaters that you guys should watch it.
It's called Woman of the Hour.
It mentions the story of this serial killer because he was famous because he went on a dating show.
And he was like, it was kind of like a reality show.
You know, these raiding shows now that are like popping the ball over stuff.
But this was the version like in the 70s.
Okay.
And this guy went on.
And then it was discovered that he was like a serial killer.
So bro, he was killing people?
Yeah.
And like killing eight-year-olds in motel rooms and raping them.
Like, that's insane.
Wow.
And he worked with this guy.
Like, they never knew each other, but they worked together, which is crazy.
Wow.
Yeah.
Crazy, crazy.
I mean, yeah, the 1970s were a very interesting decade in American pop culture.
Very, very interesting.
Yeah, a lot of things going on.
Vietnam War, Jimmy Carter in office.
A lot of things going on.
Yeah.
So anyway, or was it Jerry?
Is it Jerry Ford?
No.
Jimmy Carter, I think.
Yeah, Jimmy Carter.
So yeah, guys, so we got a documentary to react to here.
Now, here's the thing.
This is coming from YouTube movies.
So we might get shut down, chat.
They might shut it down.
No pun intended, if you know what I'm saying.
So we'll see what happens.
We're gonna play it.
Gonna try to see what happens here.
And kind of go from there.
Let me click this dude's early life real quick.
What is it?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
This nigga, early life.
I think you're going down.
You have to go up.
Did I pass it already?
Yep.
Going up.
Okay, here we go.
He was born in a rich family.
Okay.
He didn't have any struggles growing up.
He had a very good, wealthy dad that was a vice president of an insurance company, very famous one, MetLife, I think it's his name.
Yep.
And he had an IQ of 127.
The guy was very smart.
He was a computer operator.
He did a couple of courses.
He graduated at 18 years old, like everybody else.
But he was really smart.
He was a normal guy.
He didn't have like the struggles that usually serial killers have in their families, like in their early life with their families, what they have like prostitute mothers or their dads are like deadbeats or violent people.
So it's this is like definitely, I will say, like a different guy, like a, you know, like a different kind of pattern in or normal serial killers that we've not the typical one that comes from like a broken household and stuff.
We're not like he had a good background and he's still yeah.
All right.
Um, we got here Xander says, uh, random question for you, Myron.
I have a bunch of friends who think I'm pretty controversial.
I have your same mindset, so go figure.
I'm only 18.
I'm wondering how I should respond to them.
They say I need mental help, and that's not a good thing to be controversial thoughts.
Yeah, bro, they're stupid.
They're low IQ.
They don't have critical thinking skills.
So don't worry about them.
Should be getting a phone call this week for a third shift job.
36 hours a week.
Security at the hospital will work well with my day job at USPS, WRINWFNF.
Shout out to you, bro.
I'm glad that you're making things happen, making more money.
And then we got here, when you go on a whatever podcast from J Brill, probably maybe sometime this month or next.
I gotta head up Andrew and Brian and figure that out when we're gonna do it.
So yeah.
So shout out to you, Nigel.
So okay, guys, so we got this documentary here.
Okay.
Hopefully we can make it happen.
All right, we'll see what happens.
I'm gonna move myself to down here.
Let's go ahead and make this thing big.
If it doesn't work, I think we got a backup that we're gonna use.
But as you guys know, with YouTube, right?
They're really lame on this shit.
We have a backup.
Which one was it?
Was it which is gonna be the serial killer documentary?
You wanna use that one and not the other one you have?
We should try with this one first.
Okay.
See what happens.
All right, so this one is a good one.
So let's see if this one works.
Or worst case, maybe we move it to Rumble Only.
Yeah, because originally I wanted to react to the Netflix documentary because Netflix actually made a very good documentary on this guy.
But we know what's going to happen if we react to Netflix on YouTube.
So Myron just told me just find like a very good, like a good documentary that we can react so it won't be taken out on YouTube.
And I found this one.
Let's see what happens.
It's on YouTube.
Let's see if we don't get hit by the copyright with this one.
Yep.
If not, we have a plan B. Yes.
All right.
Let's go.
Serial killer began to strike in New York and New Jersey.
It was a very big story because of how gruesome it was.
His methods.
That's the highest it goes.
Really?
I don't know why.
Yeah.
Guys, yeah, it's the highest it goes.
Unfortunately.
So I'm going to hide the social media stuff for you guys.
Hold on one sec.
Boom.
All right.
And I'll go ahead and make myself a bit smaller on here.
Guys, don't forget to follow me on all the socials.
Okay.
Myron Gaines X on everything.
And Twitter, we're up to 260,000 followers, by the way.
We're cooking on Twitter, chat.
We are cooking on Twitter.
Heinous and extreme.
These were very bizarre and bloody crimes.
Beheaded, burnt, chopped up.
He killed with callous confidence.
Some narcissists absolutely believe they are invisible.
They're untouchable.
It was the second case of a woman's body being found on the premises of this motel.
But who was this serial sadist?
What sick son of a bitch would do something like this?
And was he born to kill?
All right, we're going to skip this shit.
Uh well we received a call that a young married woman was reported missing from her apartment complex in Little Ferry, New Jersey under suspicious circumstances.
Mary Ann was an x-ray technician who had been married a short period of time.
They lived in a garden apartment.
There were very strange circumstances in that the report came from her husband who was away on a business trip.
Mary Ann had failed to keep an appointment that evening with her mother-in-law.
Concerned, Mary Ann's husband had called the police.
There did not appear to be anything broken in the apartment, no broken glasses, no forced entry on the door.
And we had no indication at all as to what had happened to Mary Ann Carr.
Despite her husband's apparent absence, there had been a suspicious sighting at the time of Mary Ann's disappearance.
And as you guys know, most violent crime, a lot of people don't talk about this, it occurs with people that you know.
A lot of times getting kidnapped or assaulted or whatever it is, ends up with people that you actually know.
So the fact that there wasn't like a break-in or anything else like that means that high likelihood that she let the individual in.
We had a wit.
Why don't you speed it up a little?
Uh, okay.
I'll speed it up.
Hold on one sec.
It's too slow.
Hold on, they're saying hide the chat.
Hold on, one sec, chat.
What are you guys saying?
Hide the chat.
I'm confused.
Hmm.
Chat shouldn't be showing, chat.
I don't know what y'all are talking about.
Yeah, it's not showing.
Yeah, it's not showing.
What are you guys talking about?
Hold on.
They're saying that remove the banner, but the banner is not there anymore.
What banner?
They're saying that removed.
Because you put the chat before and it was there.
Let me go look.
Hold on, let me look here.
Yeah, no, I don't have a live chat.
It's good now.
It's good now.
Yeah.
I don't think I ever had it.
No, you had it before.
What was it showing?
Right here.
In the bottom of the screen.
But you had it.
You took it off.
It's good now.
What the hell?
Oh, oh, the super chat.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay.
Okay.
Okay, I see what you mean.
The super chat, you mean?
Okay, okay, okay, yeah.
You guys confused me.
Well, while we're at it here, let me go ahead and read.
Let me get these out the way then.
We got here.
V VS Gold says, hey, Byron.
Did you see Mike Rashida's comment about you on Sean?
Mike Shelley.
What?
Manchong.
Sean, Mike Kelly.
No.
We got here.
Martin, I honestly believe you should watch a random video on YouTube and then watch your videos and compare the volume levels to your videos.
Your videos are very low.
And before you get defensive and blame our equipment, I am considered an auto-audio file, and I have the latest tech and audio.
Need to fix your low volume issues.
Wait, hold on.
Okay, your latest tech and audio need to fix your low volume issues.
Just some positive criticism.
Okay, what videos in particular are you talking about?
On Federia X on the Fresh AFET show?
What are you, what are you talking about in specific?
You're saying that it's low.
Let's see here.
Witness who...
Let me...
Lived in the same apartment building, who said that as he was backing his card out of the apartment...
Okay, so when it comes to this audio and this right here, guys, this is the video.
Like, this is the YouTube video.
Like, I can't control this.
Like, this is the audio that YouTube has.
So that's not me.
You know what I mean?
That's not me.
He saw a person in his rearview mirror that he thought was Mary Ann Carr's husband.
Although they didn't know it at the time, Mary Ann's husband bore a likeness to a former resident of the Little Ferry apartments.
A successful New York computer operator.
Richard Francis Cottingham.
Man, you got that porn stash, bro.
The 1970s were a wild time, guys.
Style was a lot different.
The pedophile must be.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You know, matter of fact, let me go ahead and put the speed up for you guys.
We'll go 1.25, see how it goes.
He worked in what they refer to as Midtown Manhattan, right in the heart of the business district, the Luke Ross Bush Yoga, which is a very substantial insurance company.
Yeah, well, I ain't gonna lie.
Santos, they're cooking you in the chat, bro.
They're cooking you in the chat bed.
Said, oh, everybody an audio engineer now.
Fellow computer operator Dominic Volpe worked with Cottingham for 13 years.
I and Richard worked on the console together, chatting a lot.
He was well read and he was up to date on current events.
He read a lot of stuff about medicine.
He was pretty smart.
At the time, a console operator was a big thing.
It took four floors of a complete square block of the city for 17 megs of memory.
Okay?
No one ever heard of a gigabyte then, but it was the cutting edge at the time.
The thing that knows most about him is he could sit still.
He was always, I called him the leg shaker.
He was always sitting in his office, shaking.
His legs were shaking, his back was shaking.
And he would keep that up for a whole shift for eight, nine hours straight.
Across the river in New Jersey, investigating the disappearance of X-ray technician Marianne Carr.
Detective Grico was called to a motel near the airport.
In the parking lot, the body had been discovered.
Yeah, she had like a nurse.
Go ahead.
She had like a nurse uniform on, and she had no shoes when she was found.
Okay.
white nurses uniform marianne carr was no longer a missing person but now the victim of a homicide We could observe Mary Ann Carr's body lying in this area between the again, guys.
For the audio, this is the YouTube video.
It is not my video.
So their audio, you guys can hear me clear when I'm talking, right?
Clearly.
So it's not my audio.
This is the YouTube video audio, man.
So.
Curb and the fence.
Marianne Carr's body had ligature marks on the wrists and the ankles from handcuffs.
So we know that we knew that handcuffs.
And we got some of the crime scene photos too, right, Angie?
Yeah, but I'll tell you which one I don't know.
Okay, this one is on here.
No.
Okay.
We're used in Marianne Carr's murder.
And she had a ligature mark along the aspect of her neck.
Investigators speculated Marianne had been dumped from the trunk of a car, but had no solid leads.
We had no idea of how she had gotten to where she was found, nor why she was there, nor who would have been responsible for removing her from desktop audio is at the highest man from her apartment and taking her there.
However, it wouldn't be the last time they would be called to that location.
He lived near there.
That's why he will pick women that will just walk alone on the parking lot, or he will see them walking by the curb.
That's why, yeah, like he lived near there.
This guy, they didn't say before like his story, but he was born in Bronx.
And when he was about two years old, his family moved to New Jersey.
And then they moved my well, he moved back when he graduated high school to Manhattan.
So to where?
To Manhattan.
Oh, Manhattan, okay.
To New York.
And then that's when he started working at his father's job, you know, the insurance company.
When he was 18, just when he graduated, started working there.
But as early as he was like 10 years old, he started having like fantasies, like sexual fantasies.
And he will watch, he will read like magazines of bondage, pornography, and stuff like that.
When he was 10 years old, mind you, he was a kid.
God damn.
Yeah.
That's when his sickness started.
Like, you know, they started picking up these weird behaviors.
A tale of terror and torture had only just begun.
All right, we'll fast forward this a little bit.
And also, guys, what I'm going to do to make this sound better is I'll mute my mic because I think my mic is picking up a little bit of ambient noise.
So frustration as the investigation began grinding to a standstill.
You need to have the investigation lead you in a particular direction.
Without that direction, it's like a shotgun blast that you're covering all of these different things that 99% of them have no connection whatsoever.
All right, let me talk to that because that's something that's very underrated when it comes to so when you're an investigator, right, and you're doing like broad cases, like it's very easy for you to get put like you know chasing your tail.
Like you just get like one lead and then it leads you down another path and leads you down another path and it doesn't take you where you need to go.
So you have to be super focused when you're doing these investigations to make sure that like you're only chasing permanent leads to your case.
Now, with a murder investigation like this, it's a little bit easier to focus because everything leads back to the body, right?
It's not like necessarily a conspiracy case like that, because typically with serial killers, it's like a solo man job.
So you're trying to track down one guy.
When you're doing like big conspiracy cases, it's very easy to get like lost in a sauce.
It's happened to me many times.
But with murder investigations, it's a bit easier to focus because you always have those, you typically have one target that you got to chase versus multiple.
I would say this guy had a lot of advantage on his side because back then we didn't have what we call the aid on the DNA or all the modern technology in the investigations.
Because this guy, if back then they had all this stuff, they would pick him very quickly.
This guy was famous for biting his victim.
All his victims had bite marks on the skin.
That's how they caught Ted Bundy's dumbass.
Well, they didn't caught him.
And he will bite like, literally that's like a very strong pattern that he had on all his victims.
He will strangle them and he will, you know, handcuff them.
The usual stuff that people do.
Well, several killers do.
But he will also bite them.
And they will find like bite marks on their nipples and all over their body.
Even in their heads and necks.
Like sick.
Yeah, I guess Richard Vampireham, I guess his nickname is.
Well, his name is Cuttingham.
Cuttingham, yeah.
But, or Vampireham.
I think the other thing also that's important for people to realize is in the 1970s, right?
They didn't have DNA.
They didn't have forensics, right?
To do DNA or whatever.
They would collect the DNA.
Oh, BTK killer.
Another person operating in the 70s.
They would collect the DNA, but they didn't have a way to really test it to compare.
The only thing they could compare, I think, was blood samples.
And that would only tell you if it was a man or a woman, really.
So, that was really all the technology they had in the 60s, 70s.
The other thing, too, that you guys got to remember.
The interstate highway system made it a lot easier for serial killers to operate the way that they did.
Because they'd commit a crime in one jurisdiction, then go to another jurisdiction.
And the local police had no way of sharing information because NCIS wasn't a thing.
These databases weren't a thing.
Data entry with computers wasn't a thing.
I mean, you could see Richard Cunningham was on the cutting edge of technology back then.
So, serial killers had all these advantages where technology, surveillance cameras, DNA, interstate databases that police can use to work together.
None of that stuff was around.
And then you had the emergence of interstate highways.
I think, I would say, one of the most underrated tools that serial killers had that no one talks about, that allowed them to escape capture for so long, was the interstate highway system.
Especially when you look at some of these serial killers that had crazy body counts.
Ted Bundy, Samuel Little, another guy that operated in the 1970s as well.
He has the highest confirmed kill count.
I think 69 confirmed.
Most prolific serial killer of all time.
These guys utilized the interstate highway system.
That's how they were able to get away for so long.
So, very underrated thing that serial killers use.
Especially in the 70s.
While Mary Ann Carr's case stalled, police were kept busy by a series of violent attacks in the airport area.
There were actually a number of incidents of sexual assaults that had taken place within that time.
All right, so Santos says, he says here...
just your content in general in both channels.
I'm not talking about the third-party video you're playing.
Just watch any random video on YouTube and you'll realize that it's much higher than the audio in your videos.
Just try it as an experiment, anyways.
Love the content.
I'm a CC member since day one.
All right, um, so Santos, tell Mo that because uh, yeah, I mean, Mo's audio engineer, bro.
So, so tell him, and he'll he'll probably um he'll be far more receptive because he'll know what to do.
Because I'll be honest with you, bro.
I don't know what to do.
I'm not an audio engineer.
I mean, I got my Roadcaster Pro here.
I can turn the volume up on my mic, but I don't think that's the problem.
I think the audio is on the videos.
What's the issue, right?
Period in which victims were either found on the side of the roadway or reported to be in motel rooms, semi-conscious.
The attacks were perpetrated on prostitutes that had been picked up in New York City.
Ooh, we've talked about prostitutes quite a bit, guys.
Prostitutes are almost always victims of serial killers for a multitude of different reasons.
Number one, they travel a lot, right?
They can be in one city one day and then be in another state another day.
Not uncommon for them, right?
Number two, they have a broken family system.
No one really cares to actually go find them or care for them unless they got a pimp.
But, you know, let's be honest, a lot of the pimps, unless they're making a lot of money, they're not going to necessarily care.
And then, number three, police departments, as evil as it sounds, they're not going to prioritize going after a missing prostitute because, number one, a lot of times they're drug addicts, vagrants, etc.
And number two, they just don't have the resources to go look for them.
They're going to, because they're gone a lot of the time.
They travel all the time.
So, they don't want to expend resources going after a missing person that tends to go missing all the time, right?
Legally, for that matter.
So, that is another reason, too, why they don't expend that many resources to go after these women.
And the serial killers would exploit this to their advantage.
So, many serial killers.
I can only think of maybe a couple.
Ted Bunny was crazy.
I didn't went after college girls.
He went after college girls that had families and shit.
I wanted to know.
Well, I don't know if you know this, but the Netflix documentary actually emphasized a lot the situation back then in the 70s in New York specifically because the Times Square was like a pinpoint for like all prostitution and like it was like a sex party everywhere.
They had this thing.
I didn't know anybody that that existed until I saw the documentary.
They had this thing where people will come and will watch like new shows live just by a little window.
I don't know.
It was called like a something.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
This is when Times Square was just like a porn hub.
Yes, yes.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah.
It was back in this time, like during this time, 70s.
Yes, New York City was the worst in the 1970s.
They called it Fear City back then.
Yeah.
It was very bad.
The mafia.
Oh, another thing also in the 1970s, guys.
The mafia was at its height in the 1970s.
So, because they killed off Bobby Kennedy, RFK Sr., not to be confused with RFK Jr., and he was launching a whole probe onto the mafia, and he got killed in 68.
So, you know, that allowed the mafia to really operate with almost impunity in the 1970s as well.
So, a lot of things going on in the 1970s back then.
I will say also the police wouldn't pinpoint on prostitutes because most of them were also criminals.
Oh, well, they had like charges and stuff, like DUIs or something in their police officers.
Yeah.
The corruption.
Okay.
No, no, no, no, no, the police officers, like the prostitutes.
Oh, yes.
That's why, because this guy, he had like a lot of charges, you know, like they will, they will charge him for DUI or even abuse.
He had charges with abuse for this for the prostitutes.
But the thing is that they wouldn't, you know, indict me, you know, like get him to jail or anything because they wouldn't arrest him?
They weren't arrested because the prostitutes wouldn't go to court.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, I see what you mean.
So they had leads that he was the person, but they wouldn't prosecute because they weren't credible with them.
They weren't prosecuted.
That's the word I was looking for.
Okay.
All right.
I see what you mean.
Okay, suppose I'm a real estate owner who rents out a property and I have a controversial social media page.
If I got someone so triggered that they dox the location of the rental property and kill the tenants, whose fault would that be?
What kind of charges would be placed?
P.S. I did notice that the audio on older videos is higher.
I clipped some of your videos and I noticed the audio difference between the older and newer episodes.
All right.
Well, yeah, I mean, there are doxing laws out there.
There are doxing laws.
Some of them are criminal, some of them are not.
Depends on which state you live in.
So.
What the hell?
Strange question, bro.
But yeah, try not to have a controversial social media page.
Well, this is important.
They shouldn't know who the landlord is, bro.
I think he's playing with you.
They shouldn't know who the landlord is.
So like your tenants shouldn't know that you're the landlord.
So they shouldn't be doxing your property.
Does that make sense?
Like don't let your tenants know who you are.
And if you are going to be the property manager, don't tell them that you're the landlord.
Tell them you're the property manager.
So you don't got to deal with that.
where New Jersey resident Richard Cottingham worked as a computer operator.
It was strange.
I mean, most of the stuff we talked about, other than the job at the time, was stuff that he did after work, supposedly.
You know, he talked about SM clubs he'd go to.
He'd talk about prostitutes.
Cottingham made no secret of his enjoyment of New York's dark entertainments.
And remember, guys, Times Square back in the 1970s was literally just strip clubs, porn stores.
Angie mentioned like the peeping tom type shit.
Peep shows.
That's the name of it.
Yeah, that's all they, oh, PP Show's what they call it?
Okay.
Yeah, Peepman shows.
So that's what was going down in the 1970s.
Pure degeneracy in Times Square, guys.
It's not what you guys see now.
Times Square in the 1970s was fucked.
New York City at that time was a very different place than it is now.
The Times Square area was a virtual cesspool.
Porno houses up and down the block.
Mind you, I have not watched this documentary, guys.
So see, I'm on point.
I'm right.
And you watched it before.
But yeah, Times Square back then, guys, completely fucked.
And usually the main customers of these places, like pornhouses, peep shows, all this stuff, were people that worked in their Wall Street.
And also these computer guys that work at, you know, like executive people that will work in this high buildings in office all day.
They will go for a break and they will go to these places to enjoy theirselves and their degeneracy.
All right.
Street walkers for blocks around.
Photojournalist Alan Tannenbaum captured the prostitution industry at the time whilst working for the Soho News.
It was rampant.
It was all over the place, but especially concentrated in the few blocks around here.
It was quite funky, very seedy.
I can give you an example right around the corner.
Got three strippers right here.
All right.
The girls would work on these corners by the subway entrances, in doorways, close to the peep shows, and solicit, asking men going out, want to date.
Or the men would approach them.
It was pretty obvious who was working girl.
Eighth Avenue was one of the more seedy parts of this strip.
In fact, it used to be called the Minnesota.
Yeah, much different now.
Obviously, they've cleaned it up, right?
It's a tourist fest now, Times Square, right?
Like a bunch of little gift shops, stores, food places, etc.
So they did clean it up a lot.
But yeah, man, back in the 70s, it was a cesspool, man.
That's because girls would come to New York City from the Midwest, get off at the Port Authority, and they would immediately get hustled by pimps who would put them into prostitution.
I think a lot of them were runaways and a bit naive.
We're talking about girls that were as young as like 19 years old being prostitutes.
Like very, very young people working as prostitutes.
Very sad, honestly.
Yeah, awful.
Arriving with a lot of money so that they would get trapped into this kind of situation.
Now, these young men.
Also, guys, keep in mind, the economy was not good back in the 1970s in America.
And inflation was bad.
Gas was some of the most expensive it's ever been in American history in the 1970s.
Very bad decade.
Very, very bad decade economically.
We're being plucked from the city streets.
Rampant crime, bad economy, bad president, inflation out the fucking wooza, in a war, just not a good time.
Serial colors running wild, crime on the fucking rise.
Brutally assaulted.
Prostitutes are very, very common victims.
Why?
The hardest thing in getting a victim is the abduction.
How do you get a woman to go with you?
You have to talk to her.
And even if you can talk well and you're somewhat articulate and charming and engaging, not all women are going to go with a stranger.
The problem with the abduction is eliminated by targeting prostitutes.
That's part of their job description to go with strangers.
Good point.
That is half the job right there.
And like we discussed before, no one's going to really be looking for them after the fact.
Their clothes off and have sex.
The victims were being drugged, beaten, and dumped in an area just across the river in New Jersey.
Not far from where the body of X-ray technician Mary Ann Carr had been found.
There's a lot of motels in the area.
And guys, there's a lot of places in New Jersey where you can literally see the New York skyline.
Habokan is probably one of the best.
Been there many times.
I had a good college friend that lived there with his girlfriend.
Which is more expensive than some places in New York City now.
Not high-class motels.
They're places that are used for our traffic.
Much of it from New York City.
One of the patrons of those motels was computer operator Richard Cuttingham.
He used to talk about how he would be able to lure a prostitute out of Manhattan showing them.
He always had two pockets full of cash and tons of cash, thousands of dollars.
He would show a prostitute the cash.
He would take him to New Jersey.
But Cunningham, it seemed, didn't like the idea of paying for his pleasure.
He talked about not letting anybody get the best of him.
One time we had a long discussion.
Oh, man.
Nigga, I guess nigga didn't want to be called a simp that bad.
I'm going to kill you for calling me a simp, like, or a trick.
So, but he would show them the money.
You know, I got the money, right?
And then next thing you know, he's over here trying to kill her.
No, you know what he will do?
He will call them, he will call them whores.
Like, he will tell them, like, you're a whore and you need to be punished.
And that's why he will, like, oh, really?
Yes.
We fear would kill him.
Yeah.
God damn.
That was his justification.
You're a whore.
You know, it's funny.
These serial killers always like justify to themselves somehow the bullshit that they're doing.
Yep.
About this hotel that he went to and how he could slip out of the place, you know, when she was asleep and take her.
He said he took the clothes and her money and left her in the room.
You know, when you were at work and that's what he would tell his friends.
Some of it you believe, some of it you don't believe.
Hey, you take the, you know, it wasn't one year or not the other.
You take it with a grain of salt.
Meanwhile, the attacks on the New York working girls continues.
Dumped, discarded, and left for dead.
This guy built a reputation on picking up prostitutes.
Like, there were so many rumors.
That's why his wife left him because he was womanizing with prostitutes.
And he was famous for it.
Like, everybody knew that this guy was.
Did he treat his wife like shit too?
Huh?
Did he treat his wife like shit too?
Actually, no.
Treat her well?
Yeah.
What a good guy.
Oh, no.
His wife left me because after she had the third child, he refused to have sex with her.
After the third child?
Yeah.
Damn.
He refused to have sex with her.
And she called it like emotional abandonment.
And mental abuse.
That's why.
That's like the divorce.
Oh, that's literally what she said when she divorced it.
That's what it was.
You won't smash me?
She said, yeah, abandonment.
She said emotional abandonment and abandonment and mental abuse for that, because he wouldn't have sex with her.
And then she found in the basement of the house that they had, like, shared together.
Yeah.
She found a bunch of clothes of different women.
That was from his victims, but she didn't know at the time.
So she thought it was just women that were just cheating on.
Okay.
So she just, you know, asked him for divorce because he was cheating, but she didn't know that it was actually victims.
Okay, so she divorced him for two main reasons.
One for the cheating, and then two for not having sex with her anymore.
And you said they stopped having sex after the third kid?
The third child, yeah.
Did he ever say why he stopped doing it?
No.
He never told her?
No.
Okay.
You know what I suspect?
He probably couldn't get the same sexual gratification.
You would need to hurt her to do it.
I think that's.
But he never actually put a hand on him.
Yeah.
On her, right?
Yeah.
Never.
I think the reason why he stopped is because, like, here's the thing with perverts, I've realized, right?
They need more and more stimuli to get to the same point.
They're kind of like drug addicts.
But you know something?
He had another apartment apart from the main house with his wife in New York City in like downtown New York where he would live alone and like did she know he even had it?
Yeah, she knew and she accepted.
You know why?
Because he will work late at the firm.
He will work late and she was like, okay, yeah, he can stay there at night because sometimes he will just work late and it's working in the morning.
And then have work again.
It makes sense for him to have a place where he can spend the night and then come home.
And that traffic is terrible.
Oh, yeah.
That jersey in New York traffic is trash.
Yeah, it is too true.
Some of the worst in the country.
So yeah, so she would accept him to have like another apartment.
And in the main house, he also had that basement place, like the room in the basement.
And he was very strict with that basement.
Bring the mic closer to you.
He was very strict with that basement room because she wouldn't let her get inside.
And he had like a lock.
That's where the clothes were?
Yeah.
She found it.
Okay.
Of course, she will like peek after he was gone.
Okay.
What he had there because he was very mysterious with it.
Okay.
Interesting, interesting.
Yeah.
So, you know, yeah, that's what I think.
Yeah.
So going back to the conversation with like perverts and stuff, right?
I think what happened was he probably needed like violence and some other like weird kinky stuff to get him turned on.
And he's like, well, I don't want to do this to my wife.
She's the mother of my kids.
And on top of that, that would like that might also raise suspicion, like what he was doing.
That's what the investigator said, that he actually just didn't want it to hurt the kids.
Yeah.
Or her.
And also, like, he would also like arouse suspicion.
Like, why does this nigga like beat me up?
Like, you know, like, she would probably ask questions, like, oh, like, he's over here doing all this weird sexual stuff with me.
Then I find these clothes.
Is he doing it to them too?
And then women go missing.
Right?
So, yeah.
Again, I think he had like two eyes for women.
He will see women as just prostitutes.
And then he will see women as normal women, like his wife.
Because later on, when this guy confessed to a bunch of murders when he was like in jail, he confessed a bunch of victims.
So he will say that a lot of the investigators and interrogators that asked him questions were women.
And he will say that he wouldn't hurt them because they were determined and like very strong women.
So he will see women as that.
So he had an issue.
So it was really the prostitutes that pissed him off.
Yeah.
You put them in boxes.
Yeah.
I think he will classify them.
Okay.
All right.
Good answer, Angie.
Like I said, she's been studying this case for a week, guys.
So you guys are going to, she's going to be giving a lot more takes on this stuff for you, ninjas.
Was left in this motel on the corner here called the Airport Motel.
She had been picked up.
She was brought to a bar in New York City called Flanagans.
And that's the last thing she could recall.
Flanagans.
Did a mafia guys eat at one of these places, Angie?
The Flanagans, they love their Italian places.
No, no.
I'm thinking of the, my bad.
I'm thinking of Whitey Bolger and the Irish guys.
Near a major hospital, Flanagan's bar was a popular haunt for Richard Cussingham.
An analysis of her blood and urine indicated that she was drugged.
The young victim had been subjected to a horrifically violent ordeal.
When she was found, she was unconscious in the room.
And she was in pretty bad shape.
He sodomized her.
He beat her very, very severely, bit her breasts very severely.
Boom, there you go.
Yeah, a thing with the titties.
This nigga biting people, man.
Yeah.
He will like chop off their nipples, buy their titties off.
Like, this guy was sick.
You know, that's actually how Ted Bundy got caught, was biting a girl's ass cheek.
Well, he had really bad teeth.
Yeah, he had bad teeth.
Well, yeah, so that's what fucked him up.
So funny.
Funny, funny story for you guys, right?
Going back in time here.
So Ted Bundy, his last murder that he, well, murders that he committed before he got caught where he was, was it University of Florida, somewhere.
No, Florida State, I think.
He invaded a dorm, like a sorority house.
Yeah.
And he went and attacked and killed some women there.
One of the women, he bit her ass, right?
And it left, like, obviously the impression.
So they brought a forensic orthodontin at his trial.
And the orthodontist was able to show that it was said Bunny's teeth.
Because they took imprints when they arrested him.
And I think they arrested him in Pensacola or they arrested him at Tallahassee.
They arrested him somewhere over there in northern Florida.
They arrested him, and the first thing they did was they took his teeth imprints and they were able to match it at the trial.
And that actually was one of the things that got him convicted was him.
So him doing that fucking biting her ass actually ended up sealing his fate.
And he actually defended himself.
He represented himself in that trial.
It was the first widely publicized television trial.
And he represented himself.
He went to law school, but he never graduated.
And he was killed by lethal injection, right?
Yes, he got executed in Florida.
I think it was a lethal injection or electric chair.
No, I think it was electric chair.
The electric chair?
I think it was the electric chair.
Now I got to double check.
So you know, now I know.
I know he was like banned after.
Almost certain it was an electric chair.
How'd he die?
Yep.
Executed electric chair at Florida State Prison January 24th, 1989.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah, one of the, I would say, oh, let me screen share this for you guys.
Yeah, I would say Bundy is the probably the most famous American serial killer.
Oh, yeah, I remember he will fake, he will fake like he had like a knee issue with his leg or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, he had a cast.
Yeah.
He would wear, so this guy, this guy was fucking evil.
He'd wear a cast, guys, and he'd go on these college campuses, right?
This nigga was reckless.
To ask for help.
They asked, hey, could you help me with my books?
Can you help me with my books?
And the cops were like, oh, yeah, sure.
Because, you know, the guy was charismatic.
He was well-spoken.
Like, you would never think he was a serial killer if you watched his interviews, right?
And once he got to the car, because he had like this little buggy, this yellow fucking Volkswagen buggy, right?
Like a disarming car.
You think, oh, this guy's a cop student or whatever.
And then as soon as she put the books in a trunk, he hit her over the head with a crowbar.
Yeah.
And then knock her out.
And then what he would do is he would have the seat, the front seat, it was removed.
So he'd be able to bring her into the seat and then lay her down and no one would see.
So he did this for a while.
And he operated in multiple states, killed women in Oregon, Utah, Colorado, Florida.
What other?
Let's see here.
Sickbastard.
Yeah, dude.
He went on a crime spree, man.
And he escaped out of prison twice.
Twice he escaped from prison.
Wild.
Absolutely wild.
But anyway, I did a whole episode on Ted Bunny, by the way, guys.
Please go check it out.
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Prostitutes are sexual service providers, and that offends many serial sexual murderers.
As ironic as it sounds, many serial sexual murderers view themselves as highly moralistic.
Yes, they do.
This is actually a really good point that he mentioned.
That's how they rationalize killing these women is by saying, oh, you're a 304, you're a whore, etc.
Want to degrade prostitutes who are behaving in what they consider.
That's what Samuel Little used to do.
He killed a lot of prostitutes.
That was his big thing, was killing prostitutes all across the country.
They're debate.
And unpermissible is sexual conduct.
They're very, very mixed up sexually.
And so you would think that they would understand prostitutes and relate to them and understand, but they don't.
They have very, very twisted sense of sexuality.
In December 1979, someone would strike out against prostitutes in a way that would send shockwaves through the city.
It was a very big story, even for Manhattan.
It was very big.
I clearly remember it because, if only because of how gruesome it was.
Emergency services had been alerted to a fire in a room at the Travel Inn Motor Lodge near Times Square.
There they found 23-year-old Didi Godazi and another unidentified young woman.
They were two alleged prostitutes.
That's the photos that I sent you.
Okay.
These are crime scene photos?
Okay.
And we do have those crimes.
Are they safe for you?
Not safe for YouTube, probably, right?
No?
Okay.
All right.
We can, well, that's fine because we're on Rumble Studio, so I can switch to Rumble real quick and show in stuff like that.
So we'll play this real quick.
That were discovered in beds in a motel room, and the bodies had been desecrated.
Each woman's head and hands had been cut off before the beds were ignited.
Beheaded, burnt, chopped up, and nobody knew who was responsible.
It was a mystery.
The dreadful nature of the crime led to the mystery perpetrator being dubbed the Times Square Ripper.
And news soon hit the Manhattan computer room with Dominic Volpe and Richard Cuttingham working in here.
So at this point, he had already committed a bunch of murders.
And this is when he got the name of the Times Square Ripper and the Torso killer.
But at this point, he had committed a few murders before.
So the police was already kind of getting hints here and there.
And that's why he chopped off their hands and head because he didn't want to be caught.
And he set their rooms on fire.
Gotcha.
You'll see later.
Okay.
And at this point, I think it's also important to know, Andrew, so you're saying like he had already committed multiple murders prior to this.
Yes.
That's probably, and you'll notice this, guys, this trend, because it's been a while since we've done a serial killer episode with you guys.
Yeah.
You'll notice the serial killers kind of start from here.
And then as they get more and more kills under their belt, they become more and more reckless.
And then they start to go ahead and make mistakes.
Yeah.
Right?
So as terrible as this sounds, you'll hear a lot of these homicide investigators with serial killers.
They often say, I don't want someone else to die, but another murder will give us more evidence because they get more and more callous as they commit these murders and they make mistakes.
That was actually, I think, the first girl that he tried to kill, well, he tried, no, he actually killed her, was a 13-year-old girl that he tried to seduce, not to seduce, but like he tried to lure her to get into his car, and she refused.
And that's why he killed her.
So he went off the car, he blocked the way with the car.
Hold on.
He blocked the way with the car so she wouldn't walk away.
And then he pushed her into some bushes and he strangled her.
It was a 13-year-old.
That's what actually got Ted Bunny executed, was killing a 13-year-old.
That's what I think got him the electric chair.
Really?
Yeah,'cause he kidnapped a 'cause Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because when he killed those girls in Florida prior to him killing them, I think right around the same time, he killed a kidnapped a girl in a van, like a 13-year-old girl, and he assaulted her and everything else like that, and he killed her.
And I think that's what actually landed him the electric chair.
Wow.
So, anyway.
Well, he got convicted of that case like years, way later.
Oh, so you actually, that's one of the convictions?
Is this 13-year-old girl?
He confessed to that murder after he was convicted.
Oh, okay.
So he didn't get prosecuted for it then.
Okay.
That's probably one of the agreements they made.
Hey, we won't prosecute, but let us at least get closure for the families.
Yeah.
Yeah, that happens a lot with these.
Yeah, because back then there was a bunch of like unidentified bodies, like cases, cold cases, and a bunch of them were his.
And he confessed to them like later on when he was convicted.
Well, he said himself he had 80 perfect murders all across the country.
And he had 100 body.
He had more than 100 body count.
Damn.
See, and it's tough, though, because you don't know if like they're telling the truth or if they're doing that to make themselves like, you know what I mean?
Like bragging at that point.
Because it's like, oh, I'm in jail.
Let me boast.
The thing with him is that every murder that he confessed, they will link it to a case because they will find everybody.
Okay, so they were actually able to corroborate.
And then...
They corroborated those?
But because, no, but he confessed like later on.
Like in the 90s.
But did they corroborate those 80 though?
Yes.
No, no, not 80.
Way less.
Way less than that.
Okay, hold on.
Let me look here.
I think way less.
Here.
So look, he goes.
Richard Cunningham.
Shout out to you guys, by the way, for putting me on with this Wikipedia dark feature.
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Yeah, he goes here.
Yeah, he goes.
Yeah, 80 perfect murders in various regions of the United States.
Well, he told this to a journalist, so who knows, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Grand assault, right?
So, okay.
Looking for some clout.
This guy, his name is Rob.
He came in and he said, what sick son of a bitch would do something like this?
Take the heads and the hands off a girl and burn them in, right?
And remember, guys, the only way that they could identify people back then was really through fingerprints.
So, you know, that was that's why he did that.
Who else used to, there was someone else that used to cut hands off.
Oh.
Whitey Bolger used to cut hands off.
Yes.
Whitey Bolger.
I did him as well.
Guys, have you ever seen Black Mask?
Really good movie.
I might react to that with you guys one day.
You guys want that?
I watched that.
Black Mass?
Who was the Johnny Depp.
Johnny Depp did a fantastic fucking job as Whitey Bolger.
Holy shit.
So yeah.
Really.
He was not in the mafia, right?
The Irish mob.
The Winter Hill gang.
He was in the Winter Hill gang, but he provided information against the mafia.
The Angelo family.
How the fuck do I know this shit?
Yeah, the Angelo family out of Boston.
He provided information to the Massachusetts State Police and FBI because the FBI back then was hard set on going after the mafia.
So what they kind of did was they And the agent that handled him, John Conley, who ended up getting indicted with Whitey Bolger and led to Whitey Bolger being like, you know, escaping for like 10 plus years.
They didn't catch him for like 10 or 20 years.
He provided information on the mafia while he simultaneously did what he was doing because the mafia was competition for him.
Yeah, I know.
So yeah.
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appreciate it greatly timing i mean he shook his head like this is well rob could have been you could have been me i thought it was a joke oh The depraved crime appeared to have no connection to the murder two and a half years earlier of x-ray technician Mary Ann Carr.
Her body found in the parking lot of a new New Jersey motel.
It did not seem to have any connection to our case.
It happened in New York City with the bodies being desecrated the way they were.
New York City had a tremendous amount of homicides every day, so there was no direct connection made at that time.
This is an important point because we found in our research that about 70% of serial sexual murderers will experiment at a crime scene and do something very, very different with one victim that they had not done with the other, such as cut their eyes out, cut their vagina out.
And like we said before, they get away for a while and they become more and more ballsy.
And so on.
Now, when an investigator without extensive experience in this field looks at that, one victim looks so very different, they're led to believe, at least from their own experience, that it has to be someone else.
That's incorrect.
However, detectives were about to be called to a scene with a similarity that couldn't be ignored.
At the same location that Mary Ann Carr had been found two and a half years earlier, a chilling discovery had been made.
A chambermaid was cleaning the room and thought she detected what was a foul odor coming from the bed area.
Lifting the mattress from the frame, she was startled to see the naked, handcuffed body of a female, deceased female, lying there.
It was extremely frightening and disturbing to the chambermaid, to say the least.
Of that woman who we sometime later learned was Valerie Ann Street, who had been a prostitute in New York City.
In her lower back, there was an abrasion which had been made by a sharp object.
We thought at the time it was a knife.
That was torture marks.
It's eroticized the power and control that the offender has over the victim to make the victim realize that he, the offender, is in control of life and death.
And so very often the offender will prolong her agony to kill her in a very, very slow and deliberate way so that she's aware that he's going to kill her.
a monster was on the loose and it was clear he wasn't afraid to return to the scene of his crimes that was and this is this is something also guys with serial killers that they love to do is they like to play god right um Ted Bundy was famous for doing this where he would choke them.
They would like pass out and then he would slowly let them come back to and then he would do it again.
John Wayne Gacy did this a lot.
Jeffrey Dahmer did it a lot.
And when you ask these serial killers, why did you do what you did?
It always comes back to one thing, control.
You know what I mean?
They absolutely get off on the ability to be in control and be in some kind of strange dominant posture where they choose if they live or die.
They love it.
So that is why they will sit there and torture them and watch them cry and beg for their life.
They get off on that weird shit.
So a lot of serial killers admit to this.
Also, guys, just so you guys know, there's currently a space right now.
Sean Ryan, for you guys that don't know, huge YouTuber, former CIA and military.
They're running a space right now talking about the cyber truck bomb.
A lot of you guys asked me to react to this the other day on YouTube.
What I'll do is I'll take like a minute or two.
We'll listen in on this and then quick little deviation from what we're the course we're on because it's live right now and I want I want to see if we can jump in here and get updates on this Tesla bomb.
So, you know, quick little side thing here.
Okay.
Got the Twitter space.
We'll listen in for about five minutes and see what's going on here.
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32,000 people in here listening, guys.
Which is fucking crazy for Twitter.
Personal on SRS, Brent Tucker, like I said, from the anti-hero podcast, sent me the email that they received from it.
Tim Burchett, who hopefully is in here at some point, is going to talk about emails he received.
But yeah, Matt, go ahead.
Yeah, so I'm going to start off by saying this.
Like you guys 1,000% did the right thing by releasing that information and the time manner in which you did and the manner in which you did.
You just presented it as you knew it being factual to you that you guys ended up getting that email that it came through.
And it's a good thing that you did that because now we have people from Anti-Hero that have searched their inbox and are seeing similar messages as to what you're doing.
Yeah, 34K people listening to this right now.
You could receive as it comes through.
It's important in that aspect for people to keep in mind because of one of two things.
Either number one, and I think Shu ended up coming out with like a very good way of framing this, that either Leibelsberger, who was allegedly Leibelsberger, that ended up sending that email.
I think it's very important to keep in that context.
When we start analyzing this and we start looking at it, and the reason I'm happy it's documented and has been put out the way in which it did is if it ends up coming out that Leibelsberger is not the one that ended up generating that email, then we have a lot of questions because we do have time stamps and we do have the dates in which those emails were sent ahead of time.
So if there is a conspiracy that's involved in this, if everyone wants to put on or take off their tinfoil hat, I don't care.
But if there is a conspiracy that's involved in it, you did the right thing by making sure that it is documented ahead of time for all that to be put out.
If it's not a conspiracy theory and Leibelsberger did in fact send those messages, that's documented as well.
And we have that on record.
So that's very important to understand.
The other thing that I'd like to bring up is, you know, my role, my involvement as it goes into this situation with being a former team member, albeit for a very short period of time with Matt.
But in addition to that, the information that got disclosed to me ahead of time back in December, times two, that's twice, of active duty Green Berets who are associated not with just myself, but also Leibelsberger as well.
And that information should not be public record.
Like Sean is saying, you know, we're not going to go about and disclose information of people who are currently out there doing the Lord's work for our nation.
But those are all factual things that have been reported, and you're more than welcome to look into it.
And so there, in my opinion, at least, there is a lot more that's going on here than to what meets the eye.
And I'm not jumping into a conspiracy theory by any means, but I'm very happy that Sean Ryan, I am happy that Jeremy, I'm happy that Shu, everybody was able to come forward with this information and present it because however the cards may fall from this point forward, you guys did honest reporting on what it was that you had at the time that you had it.
If people want to throw in conspiracy theories about squiggly lines, so on and so forth, et cetera, that's on them, but they're going to have to defend their own BS afterwards.
You guys have your own records.
You have your own documents.
And you would be stupid to try to go forward and pretend like those emails didn't exist, that you didn't receive them.
Because obviously people like anti-hero podcasts, obviously, you know, other people are going to start coming forward as they dig through their inboxes and end up finding them.
So I'm going to leave it at that for the time now.
Hey, Sean, can you add Jeremy back as a co-host?
And real quick, for people that are requesting to speak, it's looking a little glitchy on my end.
It might be the same on Jeremy's, which is probably why he was dropped.
So please be patient.
Hey, let me add something before we continue any further.
And I should have said this at the very beginning of the Sean Ryan podcast.
And I should have said this at the very beginning tonight.
All right, this is the guy that was on that show, by the way.
Matt kind of reminded me of this.
Whatever Matt was dealing with.
This guy gained 90,000 followers, man.
When we looked originally, remember Chad was around 95K where he was at.
That's 184.
He was a family member.
He was somebody's teammate.
He had friends.
He had family.
Like, I want to offer my condolences to those folks right off the bat because I deal with service members.
I have been for years dealing with service members who are struggling for moral injury from what we've gone through for decades in combat.
The moral injury from the Afghan withdrawal.
And what I've been told is that he was struggling with stuff.
And whatever the case was, this was a human being who served his country honorably for years.
And I don't want to take away from that.
And I want his family and friends to know that, hey, my deepest condolences to you.
And if I said anything or I did anything disrespectful to dishonor him, I apologize immediately.
So I want everybody to know that.
I am in no way attacking this guy, but I felt like the information was so important it had to come forward.
And I just want to say that.
35k.
And I'd like to add on top of that, Shoe.
Like, in addition to that, in addition to that, he is a very well-respected and dedicated Green Beret.
From the time in service that I knew him to all of the people that I'm currently talking to that, you know, do know him on a professional level right now.
They have absolutely nothing but good things to say.
So it's weird that he would die that way then and do this.
Factual, that is up for debate at this current point in time.
But from everybody's general standpoint, until something official gets put out, I would just ask that in an attempt to ease some pain and suffering that's taking place within that family to let that kind of go away and just focus on the facts at hand versus rument or rumor intelligence that's going to end up smearing or you know clouding information and actual facts that are taking place appreciate that gents uh jeremy is is tim in yet
Yes, we're trying to get him a speaker credit here.
In the meantime, if I can just ask Kyle to talk about the process for sending the note to the FBI and why that would be committed to this.
See what this guy has to say.
Apparently, this guy is a former FBI.
That got glitchy, but I got the gist of it.
If you don't mind, Jeremy, I'm actually going to toss it over to Rob Green.
Since he called me on Thursday, and I'll just let him say how he introduced me into any of this.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
For context, real quick, I think my role here is very small, just connecting dots, connecting people.
But the reason I was involved in this is because of going back with Sam now for several years and trying to get at DOD corruption.
I mean, the Department of Defense is sort of the gorilla in the room.
As it goes to government overreach and some of the problems that we have.
And so we've seen.
So, Chad, I'm going to put out a poll.
You guys tell me if you guys want me to stay in here.
All right.
I'm going to put out a poll on YouTube.
I can't put it on Rumbles.
I'm going to put a poll, though.
So please open up the YouTube tab.
Like the video and also vote there.
I'm going to put a poll right now if you guys want me to stay.
It's up to you guys.
I'll do whatever the people want.
Like I said, we can stay in here.
Then, obviously, go back to the Torso Killer.
Or if you guys want me to just go straight to Torso Killer.
We got like, what, 36,000 people in here in this space?
So, I mean, obviously a lot of you are listening.
But let me go ahead and put in the tab.
First, we realized that the institution, our admirals and generals, they protect themselves.
They protect their careers.
They protect the institution before the Constitution.
And so we started going to the American people as much as we could.
So that's the role, how we got connected.
And then that morning, after Sam was informed that, hey, this is the same guy, he reached out to me to get in touch.
He knew that I had contact with Jeremy because Jeremy and I connected over the COVID vaccine mandates in the military a couple years before that.
So he knew that I was in contact with him.
So he asked to get in contact with Sean Ryan.
And then that's where, as Sam and I were talking through it that morning, the best thing to do, I said, hey, let's take a pause on this.
Maybe don't just call FBI field office cold.
Let me pull in Kyle.
Kyle and I have connected.
He's done an awesome job for so many of us service members.
I'm going to drop the link for you guys on.
Helping us raise awareness on some of the things going on in the DOD.
I mean, he's doing an awesome job in the FBI, too, but he's lending some of his support to us in the DOD as well.
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I was suspended forever in April, late April of 2022.
I was eventually removed, or I think they threatened me with termination, and I quote unquote resigned after 14 months of no pay and not being able to show up.
I'd sold my house, I left the area where I was supposed to be working because I didn't work there anymore.
That was April of 2023.
I launched a podcast.
I went on some interviews and stuff like that.
So that's kind of who I am.
Before all that happened, I did whistleblower activity that brought some things to Congress.
I brought some things privately.
Some of them actually are getting more and more relevant.
And I'm going to probably bring this up later on with some other people.
But the stuff that Sarah's talking about right now, some of the infiltration, some of the things that have come into our country were relevant to me back in 2021.
And I brought that information to Congress, including the Afghan refugees.
So that's kind of who I am.
But the most important thing was that during that time, this was a combination of whistleblower activity and the fact that we were saying no thank you to the COVID vaccine, which a lot of people in the FBI lost their jobs, or at least they were threatened with them.
I rounded up a group of people that were willing to kind of go on the line and say, hey, I'm not going to do this.
And also, we're going to support each other.
And it was upwards of 300 people.
It was a signal group.
I'm sure it was infiltrated by the FBI's investigations, the internal inspection division.
But what we found were like a lot of people that were willing to step up and say, here's some information about what's going on wrong.
These were all policy things.
I got to have a pretty robust group of folks that understood right and wrong.
Let's just leave it at that.
So when Rob called me on Thursday morning, this is going back at the beginning or last week.
Our question is, who knows if they'll bring me up?
I don't know.
He said, hey, you know, Sam.
I said, yeah, I know of Sam.
We haven't spoken before, but I understand what Sam's about and I understand that he's reputable.
He's like, he's got this piece of information.
It needs to get into the FBI's hands.
Can you babysit this into the right spot?
Can you make a connection so we're not just throwing it into what's called N Talk?
If you guys don't know, if you go to the tip line, it goes to West Virginia, it goes to like a low-level analyst.
It could get lost in the thing.
If you're not sending him a January 6th lead, it probably just disappears.
So you want to make sure you get it into the right hands.
I said, yeah, give me a few minutes.
I'll get back to you with the number.
Made a couple calls, called some of those agents from that 300 group that I was talking about, and started saying, Hey, find me a reputable CT agent.
Initially, I thought we needed to go to Denver because I thought that's where Matt was based out of.
Eventually, they actually ended up getting me an agent, which was the supervisor in charge of the squad in Las Vegas.
And the reason I'm giving you this background and the timeline is because there's a couple things that happened.
Right after I found somebody in Vegas, which ended up being the squad supervisor that's doing the investigation, the explosion at Trump Tower, I talked to Sam, and his first statement to me was, I don't want to do this, and I don't really want to take it public.
In fact, I would love to just give it to Sean Ryan and let them run with it.
But they're probably not going to want to just take something in a vacuum.
And I told him, Yeah, you're going to want to get out there and put your face on it, even though you don't necessarily want to do that.
And Sam's initial thing that he told me, this was in the first 10 minutes we spoke, is that essentially everyone's going to call him part of the Glow Fed op because that's what happens if you bring information forward.
The problem that we're dealing with right now is so much distrust in the American media and the social media environment.
And so many people feel like they've been betrayed by our government that they look around and they say, we want transparency.
And then when someone acts transparently, you're like, oh, you're in on it because it's not exactly what you wanted to hear.
And you're looking to punch through.
Everybody wants to find the psyop, but maybe the psyop is that you just don't believe honest people.
So I just want to tell you from the beginning, that's what Sam brought forward.
And he was 100% credible to me on that.
He never shared the document with me, which is on purpose, and I had to share that with the FBI.
I didn't want to know.
It was none of my damn business at that time.
And I was not really interested in the details.
I knew I could wait until Sean and Sam sat down and had the conversation and shared it with the world.
Now, here's the really important part about this stuff.
If you just give something into the black hole that is the FBI, even with a warm lead, and you give it over to the supervisor, the SSA in charge of the counterterrorism squad in Las Vegas, if they start asking questions and they start starting, you know, they start pushing down on someone like a Sam and say, hey, this is why we want you to keep that quiet.
There's the possibility that that happens.
And there are certain types of coercive behavior they could ask for or they could sort of indicate.
The upside of what Sam did was that he told them that he already had agreed to do, you know, a public expo that he intended to publish it and share it because it's the people's information and he's a private citizen.
He also said the same thing on Twitter.
He said the same thing when he was out talking to Sean.
So all of these things are really relevant.
The craziest thing for me was when I was on the phone with the folks at the bureau, and this is an indication of where we're at right now.
And this is why you have to share stuff publicly to people.
The people that I talked to at the FBI, one, they didn't know who Sean Ryan was.
And to me, that's actually fairly mind-blowing to the point where I got a phone call the next day and I've shared it with Jeremy, who's up here on stage.
I shared it with Sean.
There is audio of them calling and asking for a confirmation of the spelling of Sean Ryan's first name because they wanted to make sure they were thinking of the right Sean Ryan.
And then they asked me very explicitly: We don't know how podcasts work.
This was the agent that was doing the interview.
Can you tell me how did the interview process work?
Do they do them live?
Are they taped?
Like, how do you do it?
I'm like, I'm not Sean Ryan and I don't do his podcast, but I know how it works because I've seen it and I'm pretty confident they tape it and they edit it because he's got three camera angles.
So, you know, you're going to have to talk to Sean about that, guys.
The fact that you would have a federal investigator, an 1811 series with a top secret clearance working in counterterrorism who claims not to know what the word VBID is, or at least the initials of it, doesn't understand how podcasts work in 2025.
You'd think that that is like, that is stranger than fiction right now.
But that's part of the reason why it has to be shared and why you need to have this stuff in the public because they applied pressure that you are not able to do otherwise.
They did something that we didn't see at the Covenant School out there in Tennessee.
It's stuff that doesn't get happened, you know, like the Pulse Nightclub, all of these kinds of people who have written some kind of document, left some sort of format, and then we've left it in the hands of the feds.
You get this like convoluted bullshit because they do not feel like they owe you an explanation.
That's the downside of the federal intelligence.
And that's true.
They're not going to tell you shit.
They don't actually think they owe Americans anything.
And if you guys have watched how they've behaved over the last couple of years, it's my single biggest gripe.
This is America's information.
They act like an intel agency and that their intelligence is basically a one-way street.
And so, what these guys did is really, really important.
And I listened right at the beginning because I wanted to hear how it was presented.
The presentation was as follows: it was the same thing that was said to me: we can't verify 100% what this is.
Some of the information checks out.
And if you're doing your job, and I think Sean did a great job of doing this, it's like, trust the audience.
Here's some information.
Here's a data point.
Go out there and think what you want.
He didn't tell you what to think.
I listened.
He did.
Sam didn't tell you what to think.
And when he was making a speculation or giving his opinion, it was very clearly stated: this is my opinion.
Here's what I think happened.
Here's what might be the case.
Here's some speculation.
That's how Intel people talk, folks.
They talk in degrees of confidence.
They don't talk about this definitely happened because who knows?
We're talking about a digital trail.
So that was the thing.
Again, we have audio showing that one, the Bureau got this information.
And I just want to bring up the insanity.
Shu, he gave you kind of a couple different possibilities of being a part of the PSIOP or whatever.
If you present information to the FBI while they're in the middle of a national, let's say a national spotlight criminal investigation or a counterterrorism investigation or something that involves explosives like this, and you present false evidence, you probably find yourself afoul of 18 USC 1001, which we usually refer to as the quote-unquote lying to the FBI, but it's referred to as false statements.
If you give them fraudulent and knowingly fraudulent evidence, you're probably looking at at least a low-level felony.
Whether they'll charge it or not is another animal.
That is a fully crazy thing for someone who walks around and has spent 20 years with a top secret clearance, who has worked in the intelligence space, who is not a dumb person, and Sam is clearly not.
All you have to do is sort of look at his body of work.
This is why you go, okay, fine.
So this email obviously got there.
The question is: what does it mean?
Who actually wrote it?
Are they impersonating or are they legit?
Was this someone in the middle of a mental health crisis, which was something that Sam and I talked about in the first 10 minutes?
If you get, if you have a decent profile and you have the name, if you have a DOD background, if you have a law enforcement background, people send you a lot of mental illness.
And so it's really hard to suss out: hey, is this legit or is this something that is just somebody's crazy fantasy?
And a lot of times we don't engage with it.
The fact that Sam actually engaged with this and got a little back and forth, it is a net good, a net positive for transparency, and it's a net good for the American people.
That's all I'm going to, like, that's it.
And if you guys ever want to play the audio, Sean, it's all yours.
Yeah, I'll post, I'll actually post that audio after this, uh, after this, this live stream here.
Uh, Kyle, I'm just curious.
I mean, you know, we're talking about they're not talked about previous crimes that they've never released a manifesto and it wound up getting leaked.
Why do you think they haven't released all the information themselves that we presented them as soon as we got it?
So, this, unlike a local law enforcement, people are used to seeing some big investigations, maybe a local shooting or like a mass shooting.
What they'll expect is that there's a police chief and that person answers to a mayor and that person gets elected by, you know, a pretty small group of folks, and those people want to know the answers.
Same story with state police.
They answer to state representatives.
That can actually be handled pretty, pretty aggressively at a local level.
And so, a groundswell of interest is actually going to move the needle.
The FBI is not burdened by that.
They have an $11 billion budget, give or take, from Congress.
You've seen the way that the deputy director, that's the number two, and the director of the FBI go out in front of Congress and they thwart oversight.
They just like, they don't even want to talk about things that are obvious and should be answered.
Not even in closed session, you find out.
They don't feel accountable to the American people.
And that's the reason why, like, it's a massive problem with what is the FBI at this point.
It's why we don't have answers about what happened at Butler PA, not in a way that makes everyone feel really good about it.
It's why we don't have answers about what happened at Mar-a-Lago or the golf course down in Florida.
You know, any of these things are of national interest.
But you'll notice is that it's kind of a, it's a black bag.
And people who've worked in local law enforcement know exactly what I'm talking about.
The FBI tends to be a one-way street.
It's like, thanks for the information.
I told you guys this.
Did I not tell you on Ninja?
And that is a cultural thing.
So this guy's a former FBI agent.
At least not right now.
Told you guys.
There's no air of transparency.
They're essentially a no factory.
I've got a couple of open FOIA lawsuits where I've sued the Bureau for information that I know exists because people have told me what it was.
And they won't surrender it, even though we know.
And I've asked Congress members to help us out because it's about them and they don't want to get involved because it's ugly.
It's going to make them look, you know, kind of silly.
At the end of the day, you have a culture of people that are working to say no.
They're either going to hide it behind classification or they're going to hide it behind exceptions to the FOIA, which is the Freedom of Information Act.
They will use this ad nauseum and they will make you fight.
My attorney and I have done at least a year's worth of litigation simply to get the opening and the closing of a slideshow called Congressional Investigations into the FBI by the 118th Congress, which I know is full of unprofessional information.
100% sure because I know people that were in the presentation and saw it.
There's video of it and they showed me them setting up the podium.
And that's all I've ever gotten from them.
So these people don't want to share this information.
Again, what you guys did was pressure them and made them acknowledge that something exists because there was no way around it because your platform is big enough to actually do the squeeze.
So double down again.
Sam and Sean did the right thing.
And the fact that you guys get to even have a discussion about it as like the American people, that wouldn't be happening without this.
I appreciate that.
I'm going to move over to Jeremy and Tim Parlatori.
You guys, you guys spoke with the public affairs officer from the Joint Chief Staff of the Guys.
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He really didn't seem to have the concept of what the content of the email was.
And he really, you know, obviously is trying to protect the reputation of the Army.
But, you know, really what he was pushing me on was to say that, hey, this guy was a very well-respected soldier.
And everybody, you know, they've interviewed everybody up and down his chain of command.
And, you know, they all respected him.
They all said that, you know, nobody saw this coming.
He was a really fantastic soldier.
He was going to do great things once he got out of the army.
And he was very explicit to me that he was concerned, or I guess the Army Public Affairs was concerned, that if this email was kind of a rambling, incoherent, you know, mental health break, that it could be something put out to the general public who would get the impression that, and this is his exact quote to me, if you join the Army, you're going to get fucked up.
And, you know, so he was very much, you know, wanting to make sure that Sean wasn't going to feed the narrative that if you enlist in the Army, that you're going to end up as a completely damaged person, which, of course, indicates he doesn't really listen to Sean that much.
But it was just a very, very bizarre conversation.
He offered that if we wanted to talk to people within the chain of command to get a clearer picture of what a wonderful soldier he was.
We could.
And he was overall a very odd back and forth.
Yeah, I just want to say, just so everybody knows, I mean, how seriously I take this, I brought Tim Parlatori on board at what, like 8 p.m. that night just to make sure I was doing the right thing.
We checked into things.
We looked at the email together.
We verified that there was an incident in 2019 that did happen.
And so, and I've done that with a number of episodes with you, Tim.
I've sent you things and had you listen to it and say, hey, are we good to go with this?
And nine times out of ten, you gave me the go-ahead.
So thank you.
Of course.
Yeah, now, Sean is always very careful with these things.
And he called me up that night with something that definitely wasn't on my bingo card for the week.
And we went through it.
We pulled the UN report on the 2019 incident and were able to verify that.
And then once we had that information, that's when I reached out to the Army Public Affairs Officer and got his info.
Appreciate it, Tim.
Matt, you got a question?
Yeah, the information that you all had stated on the podcast about the PIO, I believe it was Shu that ended up saying that the PIO had said that the DNA did not match his child.
Did they actually come out and publicly make that statement or did they just leave you all hanging with that?
No, so that was something that was, it was a very odd kind of statement to me because as he's telling me about what a wonderful soldier he was, I kind of said, you know, well, so what do you think this was?
And he said, well, you know, I don't want to speculate, but, you know, there might have been problems with his family.
And, you know, and then he tells me the story that, you know, when they, when the FBI went to go identify the body, that to get a DNA match, they went to his, you know, closest next of kin, which is his, you know, infant child, and that the DNA did not match.
And so, you know, they were speculating, well, maybe he got in a fight with his wife and found out that she was cheating on him.
And I have no idea if that's true.
I mean, quite frankly, the two problems I have with that story, one, this guy is an active duty Army Special Forces soldier.
They have his DNA on file to identify.
You don't need to go to the next of kin.
And two, if the child really isn't his, what mom in her right mind is going to offer up the illegitimate child for a DNA test in this case.
So and then I looked at the news reports and I saw that an hour earlier, she had come out and said, oh, no, I broke up with him because he was cheating on me.
And so it's, it struck me as more spin than anything.
Well, and Tim, here's my other problem with that.
And I think Sean and a lot of the other people that are up here on this panel can all agree and concur with this is that being a Green Beret, dealing with infidelity, dealing with marital issues is par for the course.
Like that's not something that causes GBs to spin out of control and go set off a damn suicide bomb over inside of Las Vegas at Trump Hotel.
That to me struck me as something that, and I don't want to go down that rabbit hole because I just want to stick to the facts here.
So as a matter of fact, I'm just going to stop myself.
Hey, Scott, can you talk about the conversation you have with Clay Jensen real quick?
Yeah.
Hey, Sean.
It's kind of similar to, I believe, what Kyle was saying, that, you know, I was not dialed into the manifesto or any of the stuff that you were working.
I simply received some fairly urgent outreach.
One from the actual operative himself with, you know, and who was talking about this possibly coming up and it was news to me.
So I immediately just gave you a heads up of, you know, having talked to this individual and, you know, just whatever you're working, just so you know, there's potentially something that, you know, might compromise him.
You know, I just want you to hear, you know, what he said.
And so that was the first one.
And then Clay contacted me later that evening separately, right?
And just said that, you know, as you had said earlier, he had, he had similar, he knew this individual.
He had concerns that if this dropped and his name was in it, that it could compromise what he's doing in the course of his work.
And so both of those, I actually received it from two individuals, one, the individual himself, and then, you know, let you know just as soon as I could, kind of in the blind.
And, you know, and then you took the actions to redact.
I just want to say again, too, that that brought a lot of the fact that so many people got contacted by CID or friends of the operative.
I mean, brought a lot of legitimacy to the story.
And, you know, and then when we lined up, you know, the 2019 incident, what it was, what was in the UN report, that it was airstrikes on drug, whatever, narcotic type buildings.
When I pulled up the individual's profile on LinkedIn, sure as shit, there was that he was in some kind of anti-narcotics unit.
So, Matt, go ahead.
Yeah, I just want to point out as well that from my own personal knowledge, I know he was number one, not in numerous province, which doesn't necessarily negate the fact that he claims that he developed, what was it, over 120 target packages over there.
But in one statement, he ends up saying, and this is where I think a lot of people are having issues with that email.
In one statement, he's talking about US4A saying that U.S. Forces Afghanistan only ended up executing about 50% of those targets that he ended up developing.
And in the very next breath, he ends up coming out and saying that US4A is trying to cover up a bunch of CIVCAS or civilian casualties that ended up taking place.
So they're two contradictory statements, both within the same breath, if you were to read it straight through.
One, where US4A is executing these targets in which he developed, but also that US4A only executed about 50% of the targets due to civilian casualty concerns.
And then in the following statement, it ends up coming out that he's talking about scrambling all aircraft across CENTCOM in just a couple minutes, which is absolutely absurd for anybody that's ever been over there and knows just how vast CENTCOM is and how long it takes to actually bring aircraft into that theater.
So I think those are a lot of the issues that end up being a riot, like arisen from that particular statement within itself.
I'm very curious to hear your gentleman's thoughts on that.
I think you bring up a lot of good points, sir.
Right.
I mean, if we're going to be, if we're going to be complaining about civilian casualties from US4A, which most people over inside of Afghanistan, if they've fought inside of Afghanistan, they know for a fact that the rules of engagement were restricted to the point where a lot of service members were actually complaining that it was putting their lives at risk in order to save civilian lives.
And that was a major complaint throughout the entire war inside of Afghanistan, Iraq, or the Global War on Terror, regardless of what theater you were in.
But to say that there was over 120 targets that he had packaged and about half of them were actually executed and then claim a massive CIFCAS and cover-up to me, that information doesn't drive.
As a former teammate, as a Green Beret, and everything that goes in, not to mention him talking about US4A and not SOTAFA or Special Operations Task Force Afghanistan connected the cover-up.
That's really odd to me.
I had a situation, and I'm not going to give a particular year that this ended up occurring, but it did end up making international news where I was very well aware of an entire ODA that ended up being wiped out with personal close friends on it.
And what ended up happening, and just to give an idea for everybody here that is listening, how many ever thousands are in here listening right now?
You know, this gentleman's entire ODA ends up getting wiped out, for lack of better terms.
Multiple wounded, multiple killed.
Everything happens.
International news hits.
Chad, do you guys want me to go?
You guys want me to get back to the other stuff?
Let me know.
I see 55% are saying on YouTube that they want me to stay in the group, guys.
So that's why I'm staying in here.
So if you guys really want me to leave, then like fucking vote.
If you actually want me to leave, then vote.
Vote.
YouTube link is there.
Go vote in the YouTube fucking thing, guys.
Come on.
We're already in there trying to dig at the truth.
Well, this guy is hyped up on freaking opioids and all sorts of other stuff because of the multiple gunshot wounds that he has to his body.
And so to pretend like civilian casualties are not taken seriously, not just within SOCON, but also within like U.S. Forces Afghanistan, I think is kind of telling of possibly who the author of that letter is.
And it definitely doesn't lead towards being a green beret, at least in my opinion.
Well, I can definitely agree with a lot of what you said, but the thing is that the emails did come in before January 1st, and they did say that this had to go out before January 1st.
And now we all know what happened on January 1st.
And, you know, I think the guy was definitely struggling with something that happened in 19.
Right.
And, you know, that would be true, you know, except for the fact that I have also spoken.
I'll keep it 1,000 with you guys.
I don't know if they're going to let me up and speak.
I don't know.
I requested I messaged Jeremy on the side.
I don't know if you saw it.
This is his producer.
I know him.
So, you know what I mean?
We'll see what happens.
But yeah, we'll see what happens.
Like I said, they might not let me in, though, because I don't know what it is.
But there's like 40,000 people listening right now.
Okay.
So, there is obviously the information that ended up getting put out on 4chan Twitter about his signal safety number and also his name being changed over inside signal, one which took place on the 29th of December to another one that took place following the detonation itself.
What is really concerning to me about this entire situation is somebody that has the ability to change a signal safety number following the detonation where we know Matt Leibelsberger is dead.
When we start talking about the ability to send out emails and everything else, which is why I said I'm very thankful for guys like you and hey, Charlie Montgomery, shut the fuck up.
I'm going to read your dono.
Stop bitching.
Sound like a fucking brokey right now.
I'm going to read your dono.
Relax as I see it here.
God damn, bro.
Fuck wrong with you.
Oh, I didn't get my dono rents.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to vote.
Shut up.
Fucking cry, baby.
I'm going to read it, nigga.
Stop being a little bitch.
Holy shit.
Closing with this are still on active duty.
And Matt had just back in November.
When I say Matt, I'm talking about Matt Leibelsberger back in November of 24 had just moved into this new drone position.
He had just completed some of his initial training into it.
He was also in a group chat over on Signal that commonly discussed drones and things with drones.
And a lot of the messages that he had ended up posting inside of that signal chat, which has dozens of members inside of it, ended up getting deleted.
And those messages would suggest that he was not at all competent when it comes to drone operations or bro, nigga didn't even donate.
Fuck you talking about, bro.
Charlie didn't even donate.
What the fuck?
This thing over here lying.
The fuck is wrong with this guy?
Look at right now.
you didn't even donate, man.
I'm aware of that.
Like, welcome to the freaking club, pal.
And so there is some very serious issues.
So we're not saying that these emails were not sent to Sean.
We're not saying these emails were not sent to Shu.
We're not saying that they're not sent to anti-hero podcasts, but we're saying these things need a much deeper look taken before judgment is drawn.
Yeah.
And to echo that, plus rehash what I talked about in the podcast, people have asked me my opinion whether this email came from Matt Libelsberger.
And I said, I have said yes.
And the reason why is at least from his phone, at least from his device, the device had access to this.
Maybe not from him physically, but from his device.
The reason why is because when I saw those signal chats leaked on the internet, I saw it.
I went into my signal chat and I showed this on the Ryan and Sean Ryan podcast.
And I had the same exact matching safety number change on mine.
And that took place on the attack happened on Wednesday.
It took place on Thursday.
I screenshot that on Thursday and it shows, you know, safety number or this happened.
He made contact with me on such and such date.
And then there was a blank and then it showed safety number change.
And I said, that's the same freaking thing these had.
And people said, well, how do you know that that signal chat is from Matt?
And I said, because it matches people who knew him, people who knew him prior to this incident knew that they were talking to Matt.
They were speaking to Matt.
So either Matt sent that signal message, therefore confirming that he sent that email as well, or somebody had his device prior to that first initial contact on Friday.
And that's something that I'm going to back you up on on this, right?
Like I have well-vetted that source and know for a fact who that individual is and that they had, you know, distinct and intimate information that leads to that.
And so for people to say that that did not occur or that that is false information is bullshit.
I don't know how else to state that.
You know, people might start painting us as conspiracy theorists, but at the end of the day, it's a fact that that happened and it's a fact that that occurred.
And the deeper known fact that people do not know yet, which I have held on to very, very closely and this information has been sent out just in case something happens to myself, family members, anything else, and they've got an ability to get that information out to where it needs to go.
Also, I need mods for this chat, guys, because I am going to be going live on this channel a lot, every day, pretty much.
So this channel is going to definitely grow.
Myron Gaines X, make sure to subscribe if you haven't already.
I am looking in the chat to see who I can mod up.
Charlie Montgomery definitely won't get modded up, bitch ass nigga.
What else?
So who are the loyal supporters?
Halal, Sneeko.
I think I know who you are.
Maybe somebody could immediately answer.
All right, well, I'll give it like another two minutes in the space.
Then we're going to go back to Richard Cunningham chat.
No other phone was recovered, at least that was not reported by the FBI.
He might have had multiple phones, which is very, very plausible.
However, he was contacting me from that Proton Proton email account and from that signal chat.
You can't jump signal chats to different phones.
The Proton email on that fourth slide that I distributed, and I still got you.
Don't worry.
Shout out to Massachusetts.
We're all the federal agencies, man.
We had a bunch of federal agencies in here that were mods.
That is an issue I had because that was clearly sent unless somebody went in there purposely for a ruse, changed it to say Android just to throw it off or for some reason.
I can't even imagine why.
They said that they recovered an iPhone, but that email was sent from an Android.
That still hasn't been answered to me, so I don't know.
So when it comes to the phone thing, it's worth noting that the Bureau has the ability to act like so many other Intel-type agencies do, but certainly a lot of law enforcement.
The ability to jump in there and access a phone of somebody who's deceased, that's not crazy, especially if they had other devices that they were going on.
And you can imagine the minute that they had an ID, especially if they found a physical ID like we're being shown.
You know, I have all the same questions you guys do about things that things that survive it are also pretty strange if you have friends in the world in the fire world.
The fact that they would, or the idea that they wouldn't send somebody either in a, what's called cart or a cash.
Yes, if you're a cast club member immediately.
Tell me a cascader.
Let me know you're a cast club member and you'll get mod automatic.
If you're a regular cast club at premium, let me know.
Play automatic.
You're a perpetrator.
Like all the questions happen.
You'll get automatic wrench.
Especially stateside.
Oh, yeah.
If you become APAC, bro, I'll give you a wrench.
That'd be funny.
And being able to access that, somebody accessing another phone that also has the profile.
And Sam, I've got Signal, the same signal account on multiple Julian Reyes.
You got devices.
I can't remember how many.
Are you a Calcutta?
I've got buddies who are goofy and spooky or they just like changing technology.
And you'll get them updating, you know, with the same phone number, but different phones that they're cycling through.
It'll update the safety number.
So there are potentially some very non-exciting reasons why that could be the case that could be related to the investigation.
And obviously, it could also be that somebody had either cracked, hacked, or stolen the device and was operating with it.
I think the thing that I was most interested in in watching a lot of the online chat because I watched this and thankfully, Sam, it sounded like you were tuned out, so good for you.
But there were a lot of people asking about the credibility of what it was that you did.
Would it be fair to say that on this panel, including Matt and Matt, it sounded like you had some questions early on.
You're fairly confident that Sam received an email and then brought it forward in good faith.
Sean, same story.
And everybody knows it.
You'll get a wrench.
Who wrote the email and whether it's true or not, those all can be debated, but we're not talking about the sort of the integrity or the veracity of the folks that brought it forward in good faith.
Would that be fair for everybody?
Yeah, APAC.
You got a wrench already, APAC.
I think Sean can be called into question at this point, or Shu when it comes down to, hey, this email was sent and received by both of these individuals, along with multiple others.
And those statements are corroborating and they're prior to.
And Shu made a very valid point earlier on when he said, look, I would have had to have forecasted this.
I have to have like his tarot card game has got to be on flipping points.
Buelo or have that email sent ahead of time knowing that this stuff was coming down the pipeline.
Right.
So it's just inconceivable to myself or anybody else that that would be the case.
Yeah, local too.
You know, if we were sitting here saying that maybe it was or maybe it wasn't Matt that ended up sending that email.
Yeah, Supreme, Commander, if you get the ATF account, you'll get a wrench.
He was going to end up pulling this off.
There were two references to the email that Sean and Shu ended up sharing on that podcast.
And those two references referred to Mexico and his ability to go down and get in Mexico.
And of course, what was on his person or within the vehicle when it detonated was a passport.
And there's a lot of people that are questioning the military ID and passport for having minimal damage or burn damage that got done to him.
And I think it's important if you want to talk about it, you're more than welcome to.
Or I can talk about it from a former law enforcement or 18 Charlie perspective of how things like that could actually survive a blast.
It's not inconceivable.
It's up to you.
All right, we're going to go back to Charlie.
I know that's one of the other things.
I'm going to mute this shit.
I'm going to put it on the ice for now.
We're going to go back to our boy, Richard Cottingham.
Make this timestamp for me, chat.
Whoever's doing the timestamps, so that people will watch this on the replay.
They can, you know.
Oh, shit.
Case of Andrew Ubackani being found on the premises of this particular motel.
I think that the fact that he'd use the same hotel is narcissism.
And that brings us to the concept of narcissistic immunity.
Some narcissists absolutely believe they are invisible.
They're untouchable.
They're so superior to everybody else that there's no chance that they're ever going to get caught.
As if to prove the killer right, identifying a suspect was proving impossible.
We had no idea who the perpetrator of the murder of Valerie Ann Street was.
In just a matter of days, the Times Square Ripper would strike again across the river in New York.
During May 1980, two and a half years after the murder of x-ray technician Mary Ann Carr, a New Jersey motel had become the scene of a second brutal killing with the discovery of prostitute Ninjas, do me a favor, like the video.
We back in it.
Angie's here now.
Well, she was here the whole time, but like the video, guys.
All right.
Meanwhile, in the computer room of a large New York insurance firm, Dominic Volpe would listen in disbelief to fellow operator and family man Richard Cottingham as he openly discussed his design.
Andrew, do we know how much money he was making from his job back then?
I don't really know.
I know they.
Did you find out what his salary was?
He's probably making a good amount of money being a computer guy back in the 70s.
With the DUI, he paid like a 50 bucks fine.
And now that 50 bucks is like 400 bucks.
Really?
You only got a fine?
He didn't get arrested?
No, you got a fine.
Yo, 1970s were late.
They gave him a break.
Niggas driving drunk in the 70s?
They gave him two options.
Either sleep in jail for a night or pay a fine of 50 bucks.
Wow.
He paid it because what a time to be alive, bro.
Imagine driving drunk in the 70s listening to some fucking ACDC.
You get pulled over on the side of the road and nothing happens.
You just pay 50 bucks.
$400 now.
That's crazy.
Yeah, Angie, I want to know how much money he made back then.
I'm actually interested.
...for the city's dark entertainments.
He's very upfront about it.
Bragged about prostitutes, SM, gambling, all those vices that he had.
He bragged about.
Cottingham claimed to be a regular visitor to Sato Masochistic clubs.
He would describe things that went on there.
He talked about a woman that was walking around with a guy on a leash.
He was on his knees.
He would walk into the bathroom.
Cunningham would follow him and watch this.
The girl made him lick the originals with his tongue.
He liked a slave thing, you know.
What the?
Yeah.
Bruh, straight perves, man.
God damn.
Speaking of which, real quick, let's read some chats for you, ninjas.
Hold on one sec, chat.
Okay, we got Shava AD.
Subscribe.
Shout out to you.
For 35 bucks, welcome to Cal's Club, bro.
Hazard Dez modding.
Yeah, if you're on Cast Club, guys, drop me your username in the Castle Club chat so that I can find you on the YouTube chat and give you a mod.
Give you a wrench.
That's from Hazardez.
Hazardez, comment in the chat, the YouTube chat right now, and I'll give you a wrench, bro.
I got some money experience.
All right, shout out to you, bro.
Jabriel says, can I be a mod?
Of course you can, Jaybriel.
Just shoot me your type in the chat right now, J Brill, in the YouTube chat.
And then we got here, Abraham.
Myron, can you unblock me on X?
I'm about to join Castle Club right now so you can check if you want.
You're blocked on X. Nigga, what'd you say?
I don't block people on X like that.
You must have said something crazy if I blocked you.
What's your X account?
About posting porn.
Abraham, six.
What is your what is your shit?
All right, J-Bro, I'll see you right here.
I'll give you a wrench.
We're about to take over, so I need a strong mod squad.
Let's see here.
Roy Bond said, make me a mod.
I always super chat CC.
Do you?
Comment on CC right now, then, bro.
So I know it's you.
Roy Barnes.
I know you're in Erin Castle's club.
I'll give you a wrench right now.
Shout out to you, Josie.
I saw you defending me earlier in the Twitter space with that fucking Patel.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's see here.
Oh, yeah.
Hello, Sneeko.
No, none of that Haram Police over here, by the way, please.
This ain't a Sharia law chat.
Kingfin, how much does CC cost?
35 a month, bro.
We have one weekly Zoom call in there, and you get all the content.
Also, speaking by, which, by the way, I might as well forgot to mention this.
We're running a sale for you guys, Castle Club Premium.
Get in while you guys can, $65 a month.
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Now, if you're not in regular Cal's Club, you can go ahead and get into Calc Club Premium and Castle Club regular for $900 for the entire year.
So you're covered for 2025.
As you guys know, we have one Zoom call per week on regular Castle Club where it's an open QA.
Then we also have specific Zoom calls on certain topics.
For example, Fresh gave a lecture on Castle Club Premium earlier today on Instagram for the DMs on demand, guys.
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Castle Club Premium, you guys get more Zoom calls.
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Let's see here.
Let me finish reading the chat.
Yeah, Abraham, I don't know what your X account is.
So, Angie, can you look in the Rumble chat for me?
What?
Maybe open up the tab, look through it.
He said that he, what is X Abraham?
Turbo, the Accord, and Do Highway Pulse.
David A.G. Green.
Okay.
503 GT says, Yo, ninjas, the way things are going, we should consider these movies being played out.
Terminator, iRobot, Deuce X, Machine and Blade Runner, Cyber Attack with Cybertruck.
Lex Friedman dropped the podcast with Zelensky.
I know, and I commented under it.
I ain't gonna lie, bro.
Lex Friedman is one of the most boring niggas ever, bro.
Anytime I want to go to sleep, I turn his podcast on.
Abram Six says, Myron, can you unblock me on X?
I'm about to join Castle Club right now.
You can check if you want.
Yeah, but I don't know what his X account is.
I need to know Alchemist is my X account.
It doesn't say.
Oh, he's oh, okay.
Alchemist is my ex account.
I'm the one you call the Somali parent.
Even if I'm not Somali, I'm joining CC.
Yeah, nigga, you're annoying.
I know who you are.
You're annoying as fuck, bro.
That's why I blocked you because you're annoying as hell, nigga.
Myron, I don't have his salary, but I have what people made back in 1966 per year.
Okay, like for that job series?
Yeah.
Okay, and KJShe vindicated me.
He says, Myron, your audio seems to be on YouTube's end.
The show sounds loud on Rumble.
See, I told y'all, niggas.
Mark Hughes says, you should reach out to Sean Ryan people to get on this podcast.
It would be a dope interview.
Yeah, I reached out to his people.
We'll see.
Either I'll have Sean Ryan on or I'll go over there.
Again, I'm a brand risk, guys.
You all know that I'm kind of crazy.
We'll see what happens.
You know what I mean?
I mean, if Alex Jones is scared to have you on, that means you're pretty based.
Yeah, Alchemist, yeah, bro.
I blocked you for a good reason, nigga.
You're annoying as hell.
I'll unblock you right now.
I didn't even find your shit.
I don't even know how to find settings and privacy, maybe?
I don't even know how to fucking look at your people that you block.
Okay.
Here, let me find you.
But you need to sign in.
You need to join Castle Club right now, bro.
join cast club and then i will go ahead and now unblock you bro once i see that you joined you'll get on black
Because you are annoying as hell on Twitter, bro.
Not gonna lie.
Hey, we only got 694 likes.
Guys, we should be at 1,000.
Easy.
Come on, man.
All right.
You should reach out to.
Okay, I think I got caught up.
I watched the episode you had with Haas and Andrew Wilson four months ago where everyone except you was in doubt that Trump would win the election.
You even pulled up on Google the latest news concerning Kamala and Trump and how the media favor Kamala Harris.
I want you to search up Kamal Harris and Donald Trump respectively right now or sometime when you have political guests on your show to see how they're smoking Kamala Harris right now.
It'll be a great clipping moment, okay?
He was making an average of $2.27 an hour.
He was making what?
$2.27 an hour in 1966.
In 1966?
What's that in US dollars?
That's when he was working on the 1990s.
Wait, that was when he was working with US dollars, $2.27 an hour.
Okay.
Well, Abrahamo, when you joinish, it'll show that you joined on our live feed, Abrahamo.
And then Xander Lego says, I watched the episode.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Alchemist Max account.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Once you join right now, it'll get notified.
Okay.
Let's go back to the documentary.
Pay coughs and treating people, you know, that had no way of helping themselves.
It seems from an early age, Richard Cuttingham had liked being in company.
The speed at 1.5.
Control.
Hi.
Back in Pascak Valley, New Jersey.
Richard Newman was on the same high school track team.
I met Richard on the athletic field.
Also, guys, one thing I forgot to mention.
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Tapos funny shit like this Above all else I'm going to be more obnoxious more overbearing and I'm gonna make you all learn to love it because you'll have no choice Hello, primary shoes.
Because people had ex-woman, hater, racist, and then me at 2025.
We're going to keep going, chat.
They really think I'm going to fucking stop being who I am?
Come on, man.
I'm not fucking leaving.
The show goes on.
This is my home.
They're going to need a fucking wrecking ball to take me out of here.
Myron, you're racist.
This rhetoric is inappropriate.
You're anti-Semitic.
You're a bigot.
Fuck y'all, niggas.
We're not going nowhere.
I'm not fucking leaving.
The show goes on, chat.
The show goes on.
Oh, I have a question, Chad.
Just let us know if you guys want to see more of the travel vlogs that I made.
Oh, I still have a couple episodes that we.
Oh, weren't you supposed to.
You were supposed to dub one, right?
But like, because you need to put the captions, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
We're going to drop the next one on Castle Club for you guys.
I just want to know if they really liked it, Angie.
Yeah, if you want to keep seeing that content because I'll continue making those vlogs and editing them for you guys.
So let us know so we can upload it on Castle Cup and later on we can upload it on Twitter.
Because we're going to go to DC probably.
So we can, that will be a vlog that we can record.
Maybe LA.
I got to figure that one out.
I'm going to talk with Fresh and Might go do something with No Jumper, but I'm going to try to line up other stuff.
Okay.
If we do it.
But I think it's pretty much confirmed we're going to do something in DC.
So Angie will start recording those vlogs for you guys.
Yep.
Seems like you guys really enjoy that stuff.
Probably put them on Castle Club only for now, guys.
And go from there.
You know what I mean?
But yeah.
You guys get exclusive content like that on Castle Club.
Our first vlog is up there.
When I went to LA for the Jubilee, it's on Castle Club right now.
Yeah.
You guys really liked it.
I appreciate that.
Angie worked pretty hard on it for you guys.
So we will get some more for you guys.
We have two more.
Already.
But I need to.
What were they on?
When we went to where?
Vegas?
Or where did we go?
Oh, no.
We went to LA again for Bradley Martin and the streams with Italy.
The catching.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
And the other one was here, Catching Predators with Italy too.
Okay, so one in Miami and one here.
Those are really fun.
Okay, so behind the scenes with Castle Predator, you guys are going to like that.
And then also, it was the one that we did with Bradley Martin with me and Sneaker.
There's one who went, yeah, with the Bradley Martin and Sneaka.
The Sneako interview?
That one is really funny because you'll see it in the vlog.
Snico lost his wallet on the plane coming to LA.
So he had no way, like he had no identification to go back to come back here to Miami.
So when we got to the airport, Myron tried to get somebody to help him with the paperwork and stuff so he can, you know, pass security.
But Myron got into an argument, like a hidden argument with the people from Clear because they were black.
Yeah, I got in a fight with the Clear people.
Yeah.
Basically, because they were ghetto ratchet motherfuckers and they didn't want to help us out.
I got angry.
I said, you guys are useless.
You are very angry.
And we started like having like a big fight in here.
I was really scared we were going to be signed up on the no file.
And Snico's like, what?
I forgot about that shit.
Oh, man.
You'll see the whole thing in the wall.
It's really funny.
It's really, really funny.
Yeah, you guys will enjoy it.
So yeah, we got two other vlogs.
We need to, we're going to caption them for you guys and then we'll drop them on Calclip for you guys, all right?
So.
All right.
Let's get back to the documentary.
Richard stood apart in the sense that he wasn't always at practice, as I remember.
He wasn't a joiner.
He didn't have a nickname.
He wasn't part of our little clique.
He had a kind of wise guy attitude about him, dismissive of teachers and of school in general.
I don't think he was crazy about authority.
He would stand out from groups.
It's common for narcissists who believe they're better than others.
And obviously they're at heart insecure.
But he just has disdain for what other people are doing and doesn't really want to be invested in it.
He thinks he's superior to everybody else.
He was kind of a big guy, several inches taller than me, I'm sure, broad shoulders.
I don't remember him menacing students in general.
I do remember that the two or three friends of his, that he seemed to lord it over them a bit, like he was the leader of the pack, so to speak.
He was certainly attracted to women, but my recollection is that he did not have a girlfriend.
When he spoke about women, it was kind of in a negative way.
Being in the locker room reminds me of the expression locker room talk.
I certainly remember him talking among his friends, and perhaps in gym class, if I remember, about what girls were attractive to him.
And the only inkling you would have of the way his mind works is that he would talk about the girls in class, or I guess the girls out on the street, too, who were perhaps were better endowed, you know, larger-breasted.
That just seemed to be sort of a key attraction for him.
It's one thing to have an interest in large-breasted women because you think they're attractive.
It's another to have an obsession with the breasts, not the women, the breasts.
And that then becomes what we call a paraphilia or an abnormal sexual interest that is needed for arousal.
Now in his mid-30s, Richard Cottingham would brag to his co-workers about his use of prostitutes.
But it seems Cottingham didn't enjoy all aspects of the vice trait.
I heard one conversation about he had a venereal disease that he contracted to a prostitute.
And at that point, he was sounded angry when he mentioned the hookers.
My man got a fucking STI, probably chlamydia or some shit from Smash and Hooker, and he got pissed.
Less than two weeks after the discovery of the second body of the New Jersey motel, the Times Square Ripper struck again in New York.
In a burning hotel bedroom, the body of another young working girl was found.
Both breasts had been sliced off and taken away.
In almost all serial sexual murder cases, they will go above and beyond killing the individual and engage in post-mortem activity that to them is sexually gratifying.
This type of ritualistic behavior grows out of the offender's fantasy life.
And very often, as a series of murders occurs, the individual's behavior becomes much more elaborate.
As the offender gains much more comfort in killing, their ritualistic behavior is apt to become more personalized and more embellished.
With a depraved killer on the loose, police in New York and New Jersey were in a state of frustration.
But then one week later, the killer would make an uncharacteristic mistake and reveal himself for the first time.
Yet again, the motel in New Jersey would be the focus.
There was a great deal of excitement when we got the call from the Hazburkheit's police department, which said that they had just apprehended a suspect attempting to flee from the motel.
The motel front desk was alerted to a disturbance in one of the rooms.
They decided to send one of their representatives to make sure that the occupants were okay.
It took several minutes for someone to be coaxed to the door.
Verbally, she said, yes, everything is okay, but with her eyes, gave the impression that everything was not okay.
The motel staff immediately called the police and an officer was dispatched.
And when he responded, he responded to that area of the motel towards the farthest corner where there was an entrance.
A man was observed running out of the building in a suspicious manner, carrying a bag in his hand.
And at the time of his arrest, he had the handcuffs, tape, used to either place all the men with the women or bind their hands or feet or what have you.
So all of these items were incriminating.
And he had no real explanation for it.
The fleeing man was identified as Richard Francis Cottingham of Lodi, New Jersey.
He had a wife and children.
It's a computer operator in New York City.
He was in his mid-30s.
He was kind of stocky.
He was at least average looking.
Except, again, as I say, he was kind of stocky.
Well-built, you might say.
His wife.
She described him to my recollection as a devoted husband.
She said that he was very attentive to his children.
Despite being virtually caught in the act, Richard Cottingham professed his innocence.
He just flat out denied it.
And I found it very difficult to accept.
They sort of caught him red-handed, as one might say.
He was somewhat smug in his attitude and his answers, although at one point he indicated, the only thing I'll say is that I have a problem with women.
No shit.
Investigators immediately moved to search Cottingham's New Jersey home.
We prepared a search warrant to look for any evidence that might be associated with.
And you guys know what a search warrant is?
It's supported by an affidavit written by, there probably was a state warrant.
So supported by a detective, he goes to a judge, gets a sign, etc.
You guys know this already.
Female abduction, rape, murder.
This is the street that Richard Cunningham lived on.
Cottingham resided with his wife and children in a two-family home in a pleasant suburban setting.
There's a middle-class neighborhood I would describe it as working-class people.
Nothing would stand out of the ordinary.
He seemed to be a normal dad and husband.
It's what we didn't know was hidden underneath.
He truly was a monster.
Inside the family home, detectives would discover evidence of a man who reveled in sadistic murder.
In the lower basement of his home, he had a large room which was locked, which his wife or his children did not have access to.
Now, this guy married with three children, but he has in his room, I suppose one could refer to him as souvenirs or memorabilia or whatever you want to call it, items that he took from these women after he tortured them.
Serial killers love keeping mementos and trophies.
They absolutely love it.
Trophies, yeah.
I gotta turn your camera back on.
People that we call organized serial killers often take trophies.
They will take something from victims, like an earring or a shoe or a piece of clothing, a purse.
They're like big game hunters.
The trophy room helps them to relive those moments where they felt most in control.
The trophy room is a nice metaphor for this compartmentalized life.
This is a place where they go to just completely fully indulge in their narcissistic fantasies of what they've done to other people.
Now, the successful computer operator, husband and father, was identified as the Times Square ripper and murderer of the women of the New Jersey Motel.
His capture stunned those that have known him.
At work, it was like it was unbelievable.
No one talked about anything else.
He kind of even got arrested, and blah, blah, blah.
And it was articles in the newspaper being copied every day.
He talked about crazy things, but we never thought he would do crazy things.
You know, but I got chills on my own just thinking about it now, 35 years later.
So, I mean, it was a complete shock.
Amongst his co-workers, Cottingham had never made any secret of his vices of prostitution, sadomasochism, and gambling.
He was a gambler.
He was not afraid to take chances on anything.
He usually won.
I would say 95% of the time he was a winner.
He always said it.
He could get out of anything.
There was nothing to take him over.
In other words, he would always win.
He used that gambling thing in his head for everything that he did.
Hence, that smog attitude that he had.
He was kind of cocky because of that.
From the gambling?
Gambling and getting away with everything.
With murder, basically.
Yeah.
So he applied.
So he had this just this risk-tolerant mindset.
Yeah.
Okay.
Frank, what are you doing, buddy?
Just lifting everything here.
Just hope he doesn't eat this.
Oh, yeah.
He ate her headphones, chat.
Yeah.
Frank, give me a paw.
He ate my gaming headphones.
Here, actually, have him give you a paw because they'll be able to see it.
Right, Frank?
Paul?
Yeah.
Good job.
Good job, Paul.
Paul?
Paul.
Frank, give her a paw.
Paul?
There you go.
Good job, buddy.
All right, Frank, give me a hug.
He's so big now.
He's weighing like 35 pounds.
Yeah, Frank is so smart.
Look, Chad, I've shown you guys this before, but I like showing off with Frank because he's so goddamn smart.
Okay, Frank.
And guys, he's a 100% border collie.
For some of you guys that are wondering, 100% border collie.
We're about to get his pedigree certificate soon.
Oh, we are?
Okay, good.
So you ask him.
So Frank, give me a, I tap my chest like this, Jack?
I'm gonna sign him up for like competitions.
Frank, Frank.
He took his share.
Okay, Frank, give me a hug.
Frank, give me a hug.
There you go, buddy.
You just tap your chest and he hugs you.
So he's a very loving and friendly guy, man.
It's almost like Frank, again.
He finally developed his second testicle.
Come here.
We're waiting for it to drop down.
What?
Oh, his second ball?
So he's fully...
He's fully developed.
He's fully developed now?
Yeah.
He's seven months old, by the way, guys.
He's only seven months old.
He's still a puppy.
I'm really sad because he has a twin brother, which is literally identical to him, but he has like a freckles on his nose.
And they just adopted him.
And we kind of wanted him to.
We kind of wanted him to.
And don't forget, we got Leah here as well.
And she's a toy poodle.
She's, what, 10 pounds?
11 pounds?
She's 13 pounds.
13 pounds.
Say hi to say hi to the chat, Leah.
And Leah is 11 years old.
Yeah, she's 11 years old.
But she's energetic, though, guys.
She's very energetic.
She's very healthy for her age.
Very healthy, very energetic.
You know, we had a couple procedures for her.
She hates Frank.
Yeah, she always barks because he began too close.
Because it's just so annoying.
And she's been raised.
She was the only dog for a very long time, so she still has some bad habits.
But she's better now.
She just growls when he gets too close to her because he likes to play a lot.
And, you know, she's like, bro, leave me alone, nigga.
So, come here.
So, yeah.
Come here.
Up.
Up.
Say hi to the chat.
Hi.
This is my boy.
He takes care of me.
The house.
Yeah, we're going to put him in school soon to do some attack dog stuff.
So, very soon.
Yeah, he's going to be a little bit more aggressive because he's too damn friendly right now, man.
But he got full teeth, man.
Show him his teeth.
He has like teeth now.
Frank, show your teeth, bro.
Come up.
Come here.
Go up.
You don't listen, huh?
Come here.
You need more Pokemon badges, Angie.
Come here.
Come on.
He's going to start barking.
I got you.
There you go.
Show your teeth here.
Show your teeth, buddy.
Look, he has full.
Yeah, look, he has full teeth, man.
Yeah, he's always biting me.
He beat me the other day.
He was a toothless bastard before.
He had no teeth.
It was hilarious.
We'd give him treats and he couldn't eat.
Anyone see that?
Okay, I'll see that.
Okay.
He doesn't like it when I show his teeth.
Come on.
Oh, but you like to bite me, huh?
You like to buy me.
You won't bite me, but you won't show your teeth.
Show your teeth to the people.
Look.
Oh, Nate.
Yeah, so we gotta, yeah, we gotta.
Yeah, we gotta, we gotta get that to use.
Are teeth fully in?
Yeah, yeah, they are.
Teeth are fully in?
They are very, very white, very healthy.
Yeah, they're very white, very healthy.
We give him really good food.
He likes to bite me.
We take him to get groomed.
I'm a shower him today.
Because he smells like a dog a little bit.
I shower.
Yeah.
Pause.
And give him a shower.
Pause.
Yeah, but I do shower him periodically.
We take him to the store to get groomed, and I also shower him myself.
I wash him.
And then we have like a whole fucking process where I shower him and then we clean him, right, with everything, and then we blow dry him.
And then he just sits there like this while we blow dry him.
He used to be scared of it at first, but now he loves it.
So, so yeah.
I don't think he loves it that much.
I think he likes it.
He sits there now.
He used to be scared when I would play before when I not play when I would blow dry him before.
He used to get scared.
Yeah.
So anyway.
Back to the documentary chat.
Now, Richard Cuttingham was about to gamble on being able to outwit his accusers and beat the legal system during his trial.
He seemed to be a very conscious participant along with his attorney, taking notes, paying very close attention to the testimony of the victims and of the witnesses against him.
You could sense that he was calculating.
I came to the conclusion that he was devious at best.
After several weeks in court, everybody, of course, the jury, the judge, court officers, everybody sort of had the same impression.
Mr. Cottingham was a very intelligent man.
He was not as intelligent as he thought he was.
He thought he was more intelligent than everybody else.
That was part of his personality.
Cottingham denied all the crimes and claimed that on the one occasion that he had been caught at the motel with prostitute Leslie Ann O'Dell, the activities have been consenting.
What's more, despite the advice of his lawyers, Cuttingham insane.
And also, as you guys know, prostitutes are not considered credible witnesses in court because they're criminals, they're drug users, etc.
So they can literally get ripped to shreds on the stand.
He wanted to personally take the stand.
That was explained to him.
You're going to be cross-examined.
And there are a lot of people.
And cross-examined, guys, means the prosecutor is going to ask him questions, which is not good at all.
Because when the prosecutor asks questions, it can make him look like a non-credible witness and make him look really bad as the defendant.
Right?
And you obviously have a right to not take the stand in your own trial.
You have the right to remain silent under the Fifth Amendment.
Holes in your story that probably will be exposed.
But he wanted to testify.
A guy like Cottingham enjoys being smarter than other people, particularly the law enforcement.
He thinks he's the smartest person in the room, no matter where he is.
He wants to show everyone his thing with serial killers, a lot of them enjoy the chase of law enforcement and all the attention they get.
You look at someone like the Zodiac killer, BTK.
These guys wrote letters to the fucking police, right?
Taunting them that they couldn't catch him.
Brilliance and how smart he is.
I started my cross-examination by getting him to admit the things that he could not deny.
As any good prosecutor would do, he could not deny that he was arrested with multiple pairs of handcuffs.
Handcuffs were used in the murders of Valerie Ann Street and Marian Carr.
Yeah, Chad, that is Leo growling.
They were used in the assault on Leslie Ann O'Dell.
He could not deny that he had mouth suppressors.
He could not deny that he had a knife and a knife was used against Valerie Ann Street to torture her on the lower back.
Could not deny that.
He could not deny that he had the barbiturate pills in his satchel.
Barbiturates were used on one of the victims that he had sexually assaulted and thrown on the roadside.
He could not deny that he bit Leslie Ann O'Dell's breasts.
He could not deny because it was in the photographs.
Part of the assault on Valerie Ann Street.
On the stand, Cottingham was forced to admit that he had a fascination with bondage.
Are you taking those pictures now?
Can you?
You want me to show these are pictures of this woman?
No, the picture.
They already showed it.
The victims that he on this YouTube video?
It's the ones that he shot the head off and the hands off.
But they didn't show it here, did they?
No.
You want me to show it?
They just show the hotel room.
But yeah, but the video you have, sorry, the picture, the site you gave me actually shows it, right?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Okay, what I can do is I'll quickly chat.
What I'll do is I'll quickly switch just to Rumble just to show you guys this.
So, guys, come on over to Rumble real quick.
I'm going to do a quick switch route to Rumble just to show you guys this.
Don't worry, I'm still going to...
Thank you.
Only one was identified.
The other one was never identified.
Thank you.
All right.
All right, we're back, chat.
All right, we're back, chat.
Um, let me holly, that was gruesome.
one could have predicted the extent to which he would go to avoid imprisonment after taking the stand in his own defense for multiple assaults and murders new york computer operator richard cottingham This nigga three diglets said, Damn, she got no ass.
Damn, what the bro?
What the fuck, man?
Y'all niggas are some clowns, bro.
What is wrong with you?
Three diglets, man.
Martin, don't forget I need a pup, bro.
Uh, that's from Gaz.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Don't worry.
Well, I know you said you actually want to buy Frank's son.
Angie, if we ever breed it, no, all jokeside, he said he wants he wants one of our Frank's kids.
Arc Lightning says, W Leah, W. Frank, shout to you, Arc Lightning.
We appreciate that.
I just joined CC and downloaded a local app on App Store.
Do I need Rumble and the local app or just one of them?
Well, with a Rumble account, you're able to join an on-cast club with your Rumble account, bro.
Are you sure he signed up, man?
Because I would have seen your thing here.
Something better not be lying, Ninja.
Somebody's at dad.
She got no ass, no head.
Yeah, bro.
This is a clown, man.
Was faced with intense cross-examination.
Under increasing pressure, the defendant had revealed a fascination with bondage since his childhood.
From everything that we were able to change together, he had a typical upbringing, a middle-class, lower-middle-class family, very close to his mother.
Cottingham had been born in New York's Bronx neighborhood before moving with his family to the Leafy Pascac Valley in New Jersey.
His home was about two miles from where I lived.
It was a great area to grow up in.
There was plenty of parks and open space.
Yeah, this is it here.
This is where he lived.
A modest home set back from the road.
I didn't go in the house, but I remember that this is where he lived.
I know his mother was devoted to him.
These individuals are in very dark and perverse sexually sadistic fantasies from very, very early on.
The fantasy-driven crimes like serial sexual murder begins 10, 15, 20 years earlier in the offender's mind.
Cottingham would claim that his deviant desires had grown out of the use of pornography.
It's a common trajectory with sadistic sex.
See, porn is evil, bro.
Porn is fucking evil, man.
It really is.
Sexual serial murders is to begin with ordinary pornography, even just erotic literature, even just catalogs that show women in underwear.
Some people stop at various stages because they don't really like the rest.
They're fine with the tame stuff.
Others want more.
And if that is what appeals to them and excites them and arouses them.
We got here.
Carter FNF says, Myron, have you been swimming some debates with prominent feminists or liberals for the solo shows?
They might not want to come on FNF, but they might engage with solo and BW content.
Stay tuned, man.
I got something set up with Tim Poole and them.
stay stay tuned they will continue to get more and more extreme with it not all serial killers are sadistic sexual murderers those who are tend to become also guys if you guys don't mind doing me a solid just like the video on YouTube let's get this thing up in the algo we got We got more likes than viewers right now.
But if you guys don't mind opening up a tab on Rumble and liking the video, we got 3,000 plus human ninjas in here, man.
So yeah, yeah, like 2,600, 3,000 you guys in here, roughly.
So like the video, guys.
I'll drop the YouTube link as well for you guys so you can like the video.
Very extreme with what they do to their victims.
A portrait developed of a monster with a devious method of operation.
He would go out on the street, meet these girls, say to them, I want to take you out, not just to have sex in a car or some such thing, but I'd like to take you to a restaurant.
I just won a lot of money in a car game with the game.
And he would show them a lot of money with a $100 bill around it.
Here he goes, tricking again.
Of course, I guess these girls were impressed.
They would go to dinner with him at some point and he would drug them.
Oh, Andrew, you said how much was he making back in 1966?
$227 an hour.
$227?
How much is that nowadays?
Okay, you're going to do it.
Okay, cool.
That works.
He was able to lead them out of the place into his car and take them to a motel and sexually assault them, plus, cut them and try to torture them.
That's the kind of person he is.
As the evidence mounted, Cunningham faced the prospect of spending the rest of his life in prison.
Still, by hook or by crook, the killer was determined to avoid incarceration.
I had briefly left the courtroom and gone downstairs to my office.
And as I came back into the courtroom, I immediately saw the matron in a frenzy running from the area of the holding cell.
And without her saying a word, I knew that he escaped.
26 with 29 cents today.
Okay.
$26?
Damn.
I thought he would make more than that.
But then again, the cost of living back then was way cheaper as well.
The inflation rate was 2.86.
Interesting.
During a break in proceedings, Cottingham had decided to make an audacious bid for freedom.
Took a jacket and threw it against the sheriff's officer's face.
He followed the sheriff's officer.
He was probably making a little bit more.
Okay.
Oh, chat here from Sunday dinner episode.
Shout out to the team and like the Ross Club video.
You bumps 500 likes.
Feels amazing.
That's from the real Badman.
Thank you, Real Badman.
I could see him running from the courthouse across the street.
We chased him across the street.
We both tackled him on the street and put him in handcuffs and restrained him and brought him back to the courthouse.
Richard Cottingham would not elude authorities again.
He was found guilty and condemned to spend the rest of his life in prison.
Quoked.
But was this serial sadist mad, bad, or born to kill?
What makes them think they're going to get away with it?
That's what I dwell on more than anything else.
What makes them think they can continue to do it and have this smug attitude and exercise this awful power over people, There's lots of things inside our mentality, inside our personality, that tell us not to do it.
If only that that's a fellow human being and that they have loved ones at home.
Those who are psychopathic absolutely have no remorse for what they're doing.
They don't really care about people being in pain unless they're a sadist and they care because they want them to be in pain.
So a psychopath and a sadist are not one and the same, but if you get the two in combination, you have a very, very dangerous person.
Some people might have trophies for their exploits in baseball or basketball or golf or awards that they get for community service.
These were his trophies.
These were his conquests.
These were his criminal activities, which he had gotten away with.
And these were his trophies of how intelligent he was, how charming he was, and how smarter than everyone else he was.
Cunningham is pretty much a very classic serial sexual murderer.
The best way to understand serial sexual murder is to view it as a deviant sexual arousal pattern where sex and aggression become fused and the aggressive act itself is eroticized, whether it's choking or cutting or stabbing.
In regular sexual intercourse in normal conditions, there is some level of pain inflicted and received and there's some level of biting and these sorts of things.
In serial sexual murder, those particular behaviors are exaggerated enormously and really take a life on of their own.
I think there is something in their genetic makeup.
I think it is a twisted mind that associates sex with harm, hurt, injury, and death.
I think some of you and they rationalize their behavior too, which makes it even crazier.
Who's a psychopath already starts going after hookers like, oh, these are sexual degenerates.
I'm doing well for society.
They say stupid shit like that.
At a disadvantage.
As he then gets exposed to things that lure him into wanting power over other people, and in particular, being a sadistic type of person, the idea of being born to kill comes pretty close to him.
In 2010, the incarcerated Cottingham admitted to the murder by strangling of 29-year-old mother of two, Nancy Vogel, in 1967, when he was just 20 years old.
And Cottingham is suspected of several other possible slayings.
One thing is for certain.
For those that met him and were lucky enough to survive, Richard Cottingham, torturer, murderer, mutilator, will never be forgotten.
He was far different than people that I've met.
I met some people from all kinds of bad backgrounds or bad situations.
But he, I think, is intrinsically evil.
You know, he fools around with hookers, he fools around with parents, he fools around with kids, he fools around.
That's fine.
A lot of people do that.
Nobody kills people.
Nobody decapitates people.
Nobody rips people's hands off.
I think he's a six-son of a bitch.
Angie, there were other videos that you had as well.
Those are he's the serial killer one.
We don't need it.
You can show the one that is six minutes, I think it is.
Yeah, detectives interrogate.
Yep.
That one is good.
Richard Cottingham is a control freak and a master manipulator.
Since 1980, he's been in jail, and every aspect of his life is out of his control except for what comes out of his mouth.
He wanted to control everything.
He wanted to control the narrative of how he talked about these murders.
and of course you know that lent itself to how he committed these murders these murders were all about look how fat he got man but the sexual status Yeah, he looks like Santa Claus.
Women, for real.
Young girls.
And he would torture them, he would control them, and ultimately kill them.
Richard always refused to tell me when his first homicide occurred.
He never wanted me to know that timeline of when he started to kill.
What year is the first, do you think?
Do you have it in your head or you have no idea?
I can knock it down to one or two years.
What do you think?
How far back?
67.
60, maybe even 66.
67.
It's a lot of years running around.
Other states, though.
Yeah.
Do you have a number in your head that you think?
Kevin, did you ever sit back and think about it?
It's sad to say I couldn't count it.
They start to get juggled.
I would say it is well over here.
You think that?
Well over.
I don't come to Florida.
Connecticut.
Connecticut.
Connecticut, Baltimore.
Flatten, New York.
Pennsylvania, New Jersey.
They only got it for the ones in New York and Jersey.
Baltimore.
And remember, this is the 1960s and 70s, so it might be true because they didn't really have an interstate database system where they can track these guys down.
Any place within driving distance that was not connected to me, I would try it.
My goal is not to make a pattern, which I never did.
And then to try to kill them the exact same way or to, you know, leave the signature.
I wasn't stupid, you know.
When it comes to he did had a pattern pattern.
Oh, what?
Oh, pattern.
Yeah, he did have a pattern.
I guess he tried to switch it up with other stuff, but yeah.
Interview and interrogation techniques.
You know, when it came down to the bottom of someone like Richard Conning.
See that?
The rules kind of all went out the window.
Bringing him in and reading the Miranda Wrights and using investigative techniques that people have used forever was clearly not going to work with him.
Had I thought he was only responsible for one homicide, ordinarily I would go after the killer about every facet of the crime.
In his instance, I felt like that would backfire on our long-term relationship that I was trying to cultivate.
We would need to take a different approach with him, kind of go off the cuff a little bit.
That was the thing with me.
I wasn't, I wasn't a serial killer.
No, if you tell me you think you killed over agent, that fits the definition pretty well.
No, it doesn't.
But I know what you said, because you've told me in the past.
There's been many more that you let go.
Hundreds.
In other words, I didn't go out to kill somebody.
Most anyone I killed was when I would be somehow connected to them.
And I didn't want to get caught.
It was more than just not getting caught.
I was just thinking about myself.
Flaming connected, meaning like somebody might have seen her get a car or like in the Bergen Mall.
You know, I walked around the mall.
I walked at the park and I walked into the park.
Anybody could have sitting in the car.
That's actually true because the women that he killed in the motels that he set on fire and they called the Tarsos, he was actually seen with one of them in a bar the day before, the night before, actually.
And that's why he did it.
Like, that's why he could hit their heads off and hands off.
Oh, yeah.
So one he, like, one of the girls, he, like, legit thought he was going to get cooked.
Yeah.
It was one of the prostitutes.
He went on a date with her on a bar right the night before he went to the motel and he was seen with her.
So that's why he chopped their heads off.
Gotcha.
Okay.
To me, in my mind, I don't know if anybody's seen me.
I think every killer has their own kind of moral code that they don't want to get past.
And in his particular case, I think he long buried how brutal he was to women in the recesses of his mind.
And he constantly downplayed what he did to them.
You know, we all had children.
That's how they cope.
We had young girls that were the same age as some of his victims.
And, you know, that makes you sick.
You know, it really can make you angry at him.
And you want to just shut the door and you want to walk out.
But the truth of the matter is, is that we were doing this for a greater good.
Yeah, you have to empathize with these weirdos.
So however much that you would discuss.
I remember when we would interview like child predators, like you have to, you know, I mean, you guys have seen me do it all over Tally.
Like you have to kind of like almost get on their level to a degree.
We would go back and continue and just keep that dialogue going.
Like I tell you, one time I live in Atlantic City and I met a girl in the resorts.
She went with me and I brought her back up here.
In my mind, hey, I could be on a camera down there or whatever.
So those are the ones I couldn't leave.
But if the girl wasn't dangerous to me, I never went out to kill.
That's why I didn't.
Look at that.
That's fucking coping.
Oh, I never went out to kill.
Yeah, okay, buddy.
But again, this is what they have to do when they tell themselves this.
And keep in mind, he's been in prison.
He's been telling himself this shit for years.
Yeah.
Right?
To help him go to sleep.
And because at the end of the day, when you do this evil shit, like, it haunts you, right?
To some degree.
So they go ahead and cope.
But if you think of it, he's actually, he's an actual serial killer, and he has no remorse.
Like, you can see he has no remorse for the kills that he made.
He's actually just trying to justify himself.
Yeah.
In his own head.
Exactly.
I'm not really like a standard serial killer.
I didn't get no joy when I was on the line.
And that's the truth.
Never had no joy.
It was very hard.
So what was it for Ellen?
Was it more rated?
Control?
Tying up?
To do it to the game.
It was being able to get away with it.
To stalking.
To be able to do it.
It was like the perfect murder every time.
You can tell he enjoyed this.
He enjoyed the control over these women.
He also liked the fact that the police weren't able to catch him.
Following Girl into Sears and Hackensack, meeting girls on the roadside.
The problem was that with young girls back in these days, they were a little bit easier to engage in conversation than now.
They would be pitch hiking.
They weren't as acutely aware as what was really out there as is now.
But he make no mistake about it.
Richard loved what he was doing.
There is not a chance in hell that Richard Cottingham is going to come to some epiphany and say, I may die soon, so let me cleanse my soul.
It's never going to happen.
The only time Richard confesses is when there's something in it for Richard.
So I don't think we're ever going to learn of all of his crimes from his mouth, anyway.
After 18 years.
You have it.
Yeah.
Is there anything from here you want me to play?
It's kind of like the same thing.
Similar?
You can skip it a little so you can see.
Was there a part that you want me to?
No, it's just like a long interview.
Okay.
Oh, it's the full interview that they have with him.
Uh-huh.
Exactly.
Let's see here.
This is the most replayed part.
Let's see here.
When did you move to Lodi?
Move from Lodi?
No, to Lodi.
So at this point, he used to live in Rivervale?
No, no, I used to live in Little Ferry.
That's why he killed the nurse and that other lady years later.
Little Ferry apartments.
He used to leave there.
That's why they picked up the women that, you know, weren't walking alone there.
I told you at the beginning.
Yeah.
1970 to like 73, I think.
Okay, and then I moved to Lodi.
Prior to 70, where were you living?
Riverville.
Right.
That's what I thought.
So when this happened, though, were you living in Rivervale or Little Riverville?
I don't remember.
I think.
Although Cottingham can recall the specifics of his crimes, he doesn't keep track of basic information, such as where he was living at the time.
Cottingham took pride and pleasure in his kills, and serial killers often replayed him in their minds.
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I definitely wasn't living in Riverville.
Okay, so then you think it has to be after 1970 then?
No, I definitely was.
Then it would have to be after 1970.
The early 70s.
Okay.
Yeah, I never thought of it that way.
No, it happened because what I did was, see, one of them, okay, there's a diner on route four.
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Back then, and probably still there.
Okay.
Which I was here at Bergenwald.
What I did was I parked my car.
It's a 24-hour diner.
That's where I parked my car.
I've done this a couple times.
So my car would be, if I didn't come back for a date, there's always people coming and going.
They never, then I would go with the diner.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the dino...
Does Forest Avenue go right down to Route 4?
There used to be a diner on the corner of Forest Avenue and Route 4.
The building's still there at a long time or opposite that diner, if you go across the highway this way, is there a walkway?
Yes, goes over to the Burning Mall.
Sarah did Burning Mall.
Because that's what I did.
I parked my car there and I walked across the thing into the mall and I walked around the mall.
One of the difficulties of working on older cases is how the scene changes over time.
Buildings can be enlarged or torn down completely.
New roads can cut through what was once an empty field.
A charge for choplifting at a department store that apparently was only in those northern status, like Stern.
It was called Sterns.
Sterns?
Yeah, it doesn't exist anymore.
I researched.
Yeah, he was charged with choplifting.
I think actually he needed.
And then he paid the fine.
He paid that fine.
I think it was a $50 fine because apparently fines were $50 back for everything, basically.
And yeah, they also told him, like, you can sleep one night in jail or you can pay the fine.
And he paid the fine.
Yeah, bro.
Nobody could went to jail back then, huh?
Yeah.
Could you imagine you over here committed crimes?
But in that, in that parking lot, that's crazy.
Pay 50 bucks or go get a DUI.
That's wild that you could just not go to jail for that.
And from that parking lot that he did the choplifting, he also picked up a victim that was found dead there near that mall.
So that's when the police started to pay attention to him.
Interesting, interesting.
And waterways can shift or dry up completely.
So how did you get her?
How did you end up getting her back in her car?
Anything that helps me?
No, she was getting into a car and I just pushed my way in.
Okay.
That's how I always did.
Cottingham often left the bodies at the scene of the murder.
But he would travel great distances to transport others.
This made discovering a pattern to the murders more difficult.
And then you take her car.
Then it, you know, I push my way in.
I hand-chucked her.
I tied her.
I didn't hand her.
I tied her up.
And then we just drove up the Montreal.
Okay, so then once you're up this way, and you're solid.
You're rock solid at the Montvale?
I'm rock.
Okay.
The only thing I can say, I'm rock solid about this hot then.
And 90% sure that's the intersection.
I can't believe there's any other intersection.
But when we drove, you can show like a little street going this way.
There is a particular street that's still there where this comes up.
As you go across Chester Road, there's a 45-degree angle going this way, and then the street continues up this way, going into Upper Saddle River and Route 17.
Going towards Route 17.
Well, I don't know if it was like that back then.
That's the direction where my uncle lives.
You know, it's at this intersection here.
If I made a right turn, that's when we went down to where my uncle lived, okay?
About a mile down there.
That's why I knew the area.
That's why I'm 90, 90, 95%.
That has to be the intersection.
Okay.
It's just that it looks so different now.
I mean, but you're positive this is off of Chestnut Ridge Road or off of the street where the Montville ice skating rink was on.
The Montvale ice rink was on Chesaverge Road.
Almost certain.
Okay.
You know, you're putting doubts in my head.
I know you're not.
You don't want it, but being a guy from Rivervale, I would think you would know when you were in Montvale.
Some guy in a rumble chat saying to a Talmud stream, yeah, I would have to do it on fucking Calc Club, bro.
There's no way I would do that shit on open internet.
That's why I didn't want to be sure.
No, not really.
Okay.
No, but like I said, I went to this place 20 times, but I always would come up here and then see I could only go during the winter.
That's another thing.
It had to be a cold month because during the summer, this was all corn.
You couldn't drive over it.
Okay.
So in the winter, it was sh all cut down.
You know, I'm not saying it.
It could have been fall, but I mean you didn't have to, not summer or anything when the corn was growing.
And I always would come up and then just drive right across the field, turn around, and it's fun.
You know, I might be over here one time, you know, but it was always usually within 50 feet.
It was a little physical, but I could command this whole view.
And I could, you know, and there was no traffic.
I mean, maybe a car would go by every 10 minutes.
That's how little traffic was back then.
It was all cornfield.
All woods and cornfield.
The only light was at this corner.
There was a traffic signal there.
There was a traffic signal.
But I think it used to just plink.
I don't think it was a red and green.
I think it was like a flash, like a flashing arrow or flashing red type thing.
So they didn't have to actually come to a stop.
Go back so I can research this a little better.
You mentioned you stabbed her.
Do you know for sure?
How many times you stabbed her?
I think that's one time.
Okay.
Right in the face.
Oh, it was definitely in the face.
Because she was screaming.
I used to panic.
Stabbing wasn't one of Cottingham's favorite methods.
And just so you guys know, a lot of serial killers don't like to stab.
Really messy takes away the intimacy in their sick minds of being able to control the situation.
The only serial killer I know that used to stab like that was obviously Jack the Ripper and Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker.
He killed people in all kinds of ways.
He didn't really, he was a hard serial killer to track because he would attack anyone, kids, old people, he didn't give a shit.
He would shoot, stab.
He did all kinds of, you know, murders.
He was a slasher.
Yeah, he was a slasher.
He did everything.
He shot them, stabbed, killed them, choked them.
He would use whatever was in the house, actually.
I think he beat one woman with like with like a blunt object.
So with him, he would break into the house with like no, nothing, and then he would use whatever was there.
He liked to inflict as much pain as possible and usually strangled them.
Stop her from screaming.
And she would have been tied up in some way?
At that point, I don't even know if she might have even been loose.
I might have untied her, but because we were in the car for about 10, 15 minutes before that, because I couldn't tie that.
I didn't know what to do.
I couldn't back out.
I couldn't go forward.
And so I didn't know what to, you know, I didn't want to hurt the curl here.
I wouldn't have done that.
And if the cop car didn't come by, I don't know what I would have done.
In fact, I was thinking of the fucking words, get out of Bush in the car.
I could tell you, she was dressed, she had a suit on.
She had like a suit jacket and a tie.
A tie?
Yeah, a tie.
About how old was she?
Early 20s, I would say.
Okay.
Dark hair.
He loved dark hair.
Ted Bundy did too.
You know, the funny thing is, most of my mixers are dark, but I like a lot of them.
So, alright, I have something to work with on that.
What kind of car?
Any idea what kind of car it was?
I have no idea.
Okay.
It was regular.
I mean, it wasn't sticky, that I know.
Now, tell me about the well.
how did you ever first find a well?
in the beginning i wanted to find a place to drop the body But see, I always like to drop them near the side of the street so I can be found there easy.
And most of them, you'll saw in over the thing, almost all mine.
But in the beginning, I didn't think that way.
But then I think, you know, I didn't want these people rotting, you know.
So I got a little sentimental.
I say, if you drop them near the street, somebody will find them in a day or two.
But I walked.
I might have just got out to take the leak or something.
But I walked back.
You could walk from this field.
This field was all solid.
I mean, there was no water, no wood, no swamp.
But when you walk back in here, after you got about 40, 50 feet, it turned a swamp.
You know, where there was actually water, you know, you couldn't actually walk drive.
And I was walking back there to see if I could find a place to, you know, hide a body.
Were you by yourself when you first discovered it?
You were just on like a scouting mission or did you actually have a body in there the first time, you know?
I had a body.
Okay.
And I had a bon the first time I seen it, I didn't know what it was.
That's what it was.
I walked on it and it was tint.
It was like it was like a galvanized round type, you know, like corrugated.
Yeah, it was like it was like, I'd say eight foot long, ten foot long, five foot wide.
So it was a big, yeah, it was a big piece.
Because I walked on it, I realized it said ground no more.
And it was like metal.
But it was pitch black.
I couldn't see what it was.
I didn't have no flashlight.
I didn't carry a flashlight or a light or anything.
The next time I came back, I was earlier.
It was only about 8 o'clock at night.
It was still dark, but it was early.
It was lighter.
The water moon was out or something.
So I went back to see what it was.
And I think it was a metal piece.
So I moved it, and I couldn't see nothing.
It was pitch black.
Also, this interview was done June 19, 2014.
I dropped the rocket.
It went down.
It sounded like 100 feet, but it went down about 20 feet, 15, 20 feet.
And I seen the side, the side of it, it was like a well.
It looked like, but not brick, like stone or old cinder block or something, like an old-time cistern or something that somebody covered up so it would fall in.
And then I said, hey, this is a good spot.
And then I remember the three girls were dropped in there.
And then I said, then I started thinking about them rotting there.
I said, that's why I started dropping them outside the streets.
So you only used that well for three bodies.
This was in the fourth one, but she got away.
I don't know if I was going to put her in there.
Because after those three were in there, I went back there many times, but I never put nobody else in there.
So I don't know.
It wasn't always planned.
It was, you know, just how things came out.
You know, I don't know if we would have, if this wasn't, it just looked different to me that time.
I thought I might get stuck.
That's why I went around the other way.
I would have went back.
I don't know if I would have dropped her in the well, whether the fourth one or not.
But I brought up quite a few others after that that I didn't.
After that three, I never went back to that well.
But you would go back to the steel.
Oh, then yeah.
And then you would just go dump the body somewhere else.
Right.
Okay.
The three girls that are in the well.
Any ideas to help with those?
Like, do you remember them at all?
No.
Where they came from, how they're killed, anything?
One was a hooker.
Many of Cottingham's victims were prostitutes, as most did not question him about meeting in out-of-the-way locations.
One was a hooker that I picked up in Middle Ferry.
There was a hooker bar there in Little Ferry, I used to go into.
And I'm pretty sure.
And one was a waitress.
I remember she was a waitress.
From where?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Local.
Local in the area, but I don't know where.
I think she was young too, I think.
I'm not sure.
And the other girl could be a blonde from Atlantic City, but I'm not sure.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm mixed up.
It just sometimes it was one hit to the other.
Then sometimes for six months I didn't do it.
What would have made you bring a girl from Atlantic City all the way up here?
Did you go down there?
Yeah, I was in Atlantic City.
What would have made you bring her all the way up here?
I said, that's where I want to warm.
That's what I'm saying.
Almost every woman, not all of them, right, But almost everyone was.
So let's assume for a man that you killed a girl in his field.
Forget the well for a minute.
You killed a girl in his field.
What would you do then?
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Take a dead body and put it in your car to go dump it somewhere?
Well, if I was in her car, I would just go different places.
I've gone up to New York City.
I've driven from there all the way down to the end of Long Island.
How would you get back?
What?
How would you get back?
I'd drop the body and then come back with the car.
And dropped the car away out of it.
Sometimes it would be my own car.
But I never drove my own car of course there.
I was always afraid to get stuck.
I always knew if I got stuck, I could just run.
I never, never took my car there.
Like I said, a lot of times I wouldn't even in the 24-hour time.
It was good for me.
The car could stay there forever.
Nobody ever know.
Nobody looked for it and I'd nobody's.
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We're going to get access to the other one.
And then you guys obviously got the Federicox one that Angie has.
So, yeah.
Follow the Instagram.
Follow the Instagram and follow Mara on Twitter.
Follow me on Twitter.
Yep.
Twitter is where I'm mostly active.
I'll be cooking on there.
Follow the dogs.
Lean.
Oh, yeah.
Lee and Frank.
That's another one.
Bro, I just joined CC check and unblocked me.
How do I?
Okay, bro.
What is your username so I know?
Why do you have so many people blocked?
Only him.
He's the only one I got blocked.
Oh, that's the same one.
Yeah, it's the same guy, yeah.
Oh, okay.
Only him because he's annoying.
All right.
Let's see here.
Bro, join CC and unblock me.
Let me look here and see if you actually did join Ninja.
What is your email, Alchemist?
What is your email?
And you, do you see it in the chat?
Your boy Lem says, Myra, what's good, man?
I saw a real a reel on IG about a.
Oh my god, bro.
What the fuck?
Doesn't anything on the show?
Man, bro, you guys know I'm live on fucking YouTube, man.
Okay, I gotta, you know, I'm just not gonna be put.
I'm I'm just gonna read it first.
No, I put some stupid shit in the chat.
Sneaking, man.
All right.
Sim Sima.
Appreciate that.
Alan J. Simpson.
Abraham.
I did join CC.
You could check.
All right, Abraham.
No, but he hasn't dropped.
Alan J. Simpson's deal, Deal Myro.
What the hell?
What are you talking about, bro?
Hey, Marin.
Simon's Son of America coming up podcast earlier that he's trying to do something with Charleston White that would be legendary.
Oh, I'll see, man.
and I'll try to connect the two.
Oh, he dropped it.
All right, let me look at this email here.
Let me see.
I see.
I see you in here, Ninja.
All right, I will unblock you.
I gotta fucking figure this shit out real quick.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I gotta find you in this shit.
Guys, yeah, go ahead, Angie.
I just really want to know if they like the vlogs because it's a lot of work.
So just let us know if you actually like.
Here, the chats are up top.
They'll tell you.
Look, you see them on top?
They'll tell you.
Chat, what do you guys think about the vlogs?
If you're well, only the calculator is gonna know.
All right.
But yeah, look at the calculator chat, Angie.
They'll tell you.
It's in the middle.
Myron, can you and Angie walk the dogs tonight?
Yeah, I can.
We can.
I have to go soon, but we can.
I'm gonna start studying.
All right, Alchemist.
I unblocked you, bro.
But yeah, I want to know if you like the vlogs so we can upload the next ones.
Oh, yeah, because you got real estate school, right?
That's why you want to go to sleep early?
Morning, so I have to wake up early.
Okay.
Yeah, we'll walk the dogs for you, Ninjas.
No problem.
We can walk them just now.
Well, they wanted an IG on IG Live.
We can do that.
Yeah.
Yeah, we can do that.
Let's see here.
Oh, and then yo, honestly, I had to, I hate that I have to say this, but let me just go ahead and address this real quick, right?
So I got, we got a lot of haters, right?
Saying some stupid shit like, oh, Fresh and Fit is going to break up, like all these fucking dumbass YouTube channels saying this shit.
So let me honestly.
Is that the headlines now?
That's the headlines, yeah.
That's fucking incredible.
Like, yo, let me.
Let me, let me be, be clear about this shit, right?
Like, and I got a tweet here that I actually, I wrote this all out, right?
Explaining this shit.
So let me go ahead and read, go through this shit with you, ninjas, real fast, right?
Because this is ridiculous that I even have to fucking address this, but let me go ahead and do it real quick for you guys, right?
So I'm just rumors of me and Fresh disbanding and ending the Fresh of Fit podcast.
Haters have been saying we are done for years since 2021 when we lost 50K subscribers.
You guys remember that shit, right?
Remember that?
When we lost all those subscribers and they said that we were down and out?
Yeah, we bounced back and reached 1.5 million subscribers on YouTube in less than three years being critters.
We had regular jobs, as you guys know.
Me, I was a special agent with Homeland, right?
And Fresh worked in tech.
You guys already know this.
This despite 50 plus different YouTube channels making hip pieces trying to destroy us.
You guys remember back in 2021, August, all those YouTube channels making videos saying we're done, we're cooked, it's over.
These guys came in and now they're gone, right?
Fast forward fucking almost four years later and we're still here.
People say we're broke.
Yeah, we still generate six figures a month while being demonetized.
One more time from these bitch ass niggas.
Everyone says, you guys are broke.
You guys crashed out.
You guys lost a bag, et cetera.
How?
We make just as much, if not more money, than when we were monetized on YouTube.
You know what the funny part is?
We're demonetized and we still make more money than our fucking haters.
And that's not including my real estate money, by the way.
FYI.
That's just Fresh and Fit, what we generate off that.
That doesn't count for a coaching service, any of that other shit.
So let me get this straight.
Niggas want to sit here and say, oh, you guys are broke.
Because all these people say this stupid shit.
Oh, y'all are broke.
You guys, you know, they crashed out.
They fumbled the bag.
They fumbled the bag.
But we still generate six figures every fucking month consistently.
So who fumbled what?
Realistically speaking, who fumbled what?
I got my integrity.
I can say what the fuck I want to say.
And I'm not beholden to advertisers or sponsors.
So if anything, I think it's a big fucking W because no one controls us.
I can say whatever the fuck I want to say.
Right?
I'm not controlled.
I'm not a bot.
That's why I say the shit that I say.
I have zero fear.
So people say this stupid shit, these niggas fumbled the bag.
Did we really?
Did we really?
We still make millions a year.
So fuck you.
All you bumass haters making videos talking shit about us.
We make more money than you niggas.
We're more successful than you niggas.
And that's not even me talking about my real estate money.
So when people say this stupid shit, it annoys me because it's not fucking true.
It's not true.
They fumbled the bag.
Shut the fuck up.
The only thing getting fumbled is you and your fucking integrity and your fucking false news.
Get the fuck out of here, man.
Wrong.
Complete fake news.
They say all that stupid shit and we're still here.
Now you guys want to know, oh, Myra, why do you do solo streams?
So Fresh could be freed up to make connections and set up other guests.
You guys know, we've never been like, Fresh has been transparent with you guys.
Hey, he's trying to work on his speech, et cetera.
But he's great behind the scenes with getting guests on a show and networking, making things happen, right?
So why are everybody saying that Fresh and Fit is done, right?
The reality is this, guys.
Most YouTubers are fucking toxic, bro, and jealous.
It burns people that we came into the game in October of 2020 and took over.
It burns people that we were able to reach a million subscribers within two to three years.
It burns people that we were the number one super chatted channel in the United States of America for two years straight.
It burns people that were wildly successful and were always able to stay relevant despite the times.
It burns people that we're able to have guests on from a multitude of different backgrounds.
We're able to talk on a multitude of different topics, whether it's politics, dating, current affairs, geopolitics, et cetera.
We could talk about it.
Fitness, networking, cars, everything.
We literally are the most diversified fucking podcasts on YouTube.
And it pisses people off like I'll be fucking preaching.
We're one-trick ponies that can't do shit else besides talk shit about other niggas.
That's the reality.
They can't make money unless they talk shit about other people.
We don't have to make money talking shit about other people.
We don't.
We really don't.
We help guys become better.
In a multitude of different ways.
Making money, losing weight, buying real estate, investing into index funds, cryptocurrency, etc.
I can confidently, I could die today.
And I could tell y'all, I've changed so many men's lives and I've kept them from hurting themselves.
And on top of that, I've helped men make money.
I've actually turned a couple guys into millionaires.
Have Anis and Reeves done that?
No.
Have they helped anyone lose weight?
No.
And that's just like all the other fucking haters that follow along their lines because they make a hit piece.
And then 10 other YouTube channels that are unoriginal fucks say the same shit that them bitch ass niggas did.
Why?
Because we are always relevant, hence they must make videos on us to make ad sense.
If YouTube would go, if they get demonetized, cooked.
We got demonetized.
We got demonetized almost two years ago.
And we're still here generating six figures a month.
Sounds pretty fucking good to me.
And we can say what the fuck we want to say.
Niggas want to cry, you crashed out putting a hood on.
Well, I can do it.
Can I?
Can you do it?
Oh, you can't.
Oh, damn.
Can you be a critical of a certain place?
Oh, damn.
Can you use the racial slurs that I do?
Oh, damn.
Sucks, doesn't it?
What you're mad about is that we're free and we can say what we want to say and we still make more money than you bitch ass niggas.
That's the real reason motherfuckers want to sit here and say, you guys cashed out.
Did we really?
Did we really?
You fumbled a bag.
Did we really?
YouTubers are cancerous, jealous people, and most y'all niggas never had a real job prior to doing this internet shit.
I did.
That's why it's such a foreign concept when I stand by my friends like the Tate brothers.
That's why it's such a foreign concept when Fresh had all those bullshit accusations with Miss China woman that has stood by him.
People tell me that I'm loyal to a fault.
Really?
That's where we are?
Where we take a trait like loyalty and we say, oh, you're loyal to a fault.
That's the problem with these influencer niggas.
Losers like ABBA will come to your fucking house and then make a video talking shit about you after the fact.
When you broke bread with him and you fucking ate and chatted up with him.
That's why I was so annoyed because I'm not cut from that cloth.
It's a foreign, that's like a foreign behavior.
And he should know better.
He's from East Africa.
He's from the same part of the world I am.
Do some stupid shit like that.
Show up to somebody's house and you talk bad on them publicly on the internet?
Nigga, what?
That's a foreign concept.
Now, did I react very angrily?
Of course.
I'm not an internet guy.
I responded like, bro, what the fuck is this?
And three years later, still making videos, talking shit, they've made 70 plus videos on us.
Oh, we made a million dollars, Fresh Shit Fit.
Cool.
We've made a lot more money off y'all bitch ass niggas because you guys give us the free advertising.
A lot of your fans come to watch our shit because you guys provide no fucking value.
You guys are one-trick ponies doing the same shit for 10 years.
Failed fucking comedians.
Fat piece of shit.
Losers.
Nobody wants to be like y'all niggas, and that's the cold hard facts.
Nobody wants to be a fat loser slob that has to comment on other people's shit to get views.
That's the reality, motherfucker.
Ain't nobody going to ABBA for life advice.
Ain't nobody going to ABBA to buy real estate.
Ain't nobody going to ABBA to fucking figure out cryptocurrency or lose weight or get a bitch.
Nobody.
Fucking nobody.
The only time anyone's going to go to you is if they can look like a homeless person.
Hey, help me out with my drip.
I want to look like I'm fucking homeless sitting in front of 7-Eleven.
That's the only time niggas are going to come to you for any consultation, nigga.
That's the reality.
You're a fucking coward.
I've been telling you for years.
We could go ahead and box it out.
Stop plotting it off on your retarded window licking friend preach.
You deal with the fucking consequences.
You're the one that talks shit.
You're the one that makes the videos.
You're the one that has a problem with me.
So settle it like a man.
Settle it like a fucking man.
Or you can just keep making videos, what you're going to do, but that's fine.
I'm going to run into you a person one day.
It's not going to be good for you.
And I won't even have to lay a finger on you.
I won't have to.
I'm just going to ask you a simple question.
What the fuck is your problem, man?
And let's see how much you fucking bitch up, pussy.
Because the reality is you're a coward.
I know it, you know it.
That's why you'll do everything besides respond to my boxing invitation.
Because you clearly have a personal problem with me for some odd reason.
70 videos, you're obsessed, bro.
You're obsessed.
I made one video response, and your bitch-ass fans went ahead and took it down.
They mass reported as much as you want to sit here and say, Oh, no, no, no, they mass reported.
They took it down for hate speech for me roasting you niggas so hard.
So could reach out to you?
We could do a culture war.
I don't give a fuck.
But you know that you're scared.
And you guys are pushing all this bullshit about they fumble the bag.
Guarantee we make more money than y'all niggas.
Guaranteed.
Because we add value to people.
We help people.
We help them get out of dark places.
When you help people, they help you back.
Despite the fact that we're demonetized, we still do better than most other fucking YouTubers that make channels that have entire channels dedicated to shitting on us.
Because we give a fuck about the people that support us.
We support the people that support us.
You want to go ahead and take some bullshit.
Oh, yeah, yeah, y'all had a yacht party and it was no girls there.
Okay, nigga.
It was a three to one ratio.
But you guys want to go ahead and pull clips to make it look like a certain way.
That's all you guys do.
Smoke in fucking mirrors.
You guys are Kamala Harris.
Male versions.
Editing shit, jump clips, all this other bullshit.
But the reality is, you guys are insanely fucking jealous of our fucking success.
I should have known that shit when your snake ass walked to our studio the first time and said, damn, y'all got a great operation here.
I should have known back then that you were fucking plying and you had some jealousy in your eyes.
But I gave you the benefit of doubt because you came from the same part of the world that I did.
But what can you do?
You're the type of guy you'll shake someone's hand and then you'll fucking go ahead and backstab them when you get the chance.
You're a fucking slimy piece of shit individual.
And that's the truth.
I don't even got, I think the world already noticed that.
I would never go to someone's crib, do a video with them, and then make a hit piece talking shit about them after.
You preach integrity.
All right, bro.
That's not integrity whatsoever.
That's not integrity whatsoever.
You don't got to be my friend to have common decency and respect.
And that's the fucking truth that you won't tell your fans.
Anyway, a lot of our haters, like you guys can see here, never reached a million subscribers or it took them 10 plus years to do it, like Anus and Reach.
We're still here and we're going to continue to stay here.
We're not going anywhere.
And 2025 is our year.
We're taking over.
You motherfuckers are going to see me everywhere, whether it's X, Instagram, whatever.
And that's despite the fact that I've been banned like 10 times on Instagram.
Still fucking cooking.
Reels getting crazy engagement.
X getting crazy engagement.
YouTube's gonna go up too.
We've been focusing on Rumble, but you know, we're gonna multi-stream on YouTube as well.
It'll be a good time.
So the real ones know the real story.
That freak out that I had that wasn't off no other shit.
Again, to me, if I shake your hand, I meet you in person.
I go to your fucking house, you buy me food, we have a good conversation, etc.
And then you fucking come and sneak me like that.
Could have I reacted a little bit better?
Sure.
But we're new to the internet, right?
I think I reacted like anyone would if they got betrayed so heavily, right?
That didn't have like internet, how do I say this?
Internet customs, right?
How to behave on the internet.
You gotta, you know, you can't be too emotional, this other shit.
Cool.
It was our first year on fucking YouTube, man.
It is what it is.
Made a mistake.
But that was some snake shit.
Big snake shit.
You know?
I don't bad mouth and shit on people that like I get along with and I've worked with in the past.
Just don't do that shit.
Hell, even Destiny gave me a credit for that.
Say, I'm one of the most loyal people he's ever met.
Because I'm the same person on and off camera.
Something that's fucking missing nowadays.
Honestly.
Fucking missing.
But anyway, with that said, guys, it's amazing I even had to fucking address this shit.
But yeah, Fresh and Fit ain't going nowhere.
We're not disbanding.
The only reason you guys are seeing me do these fucking soul streams, like I said before, is a free fresh up to do shit.
He was in Jamaica making moves.
Interviews coming soon.
You guys really think that after all the bullshit that me and Fred's been through, false allegations, girls lying about being pregnant, fucking people showing up to the studio, people starting problems, the drama that we have, losing 50,000 subscribers, getting demonetized.
You guys really think that we're going to fucking break up?
Really?
It's fucking comedy, man.
We've been through way fucking worse.
Way fucking worse.
It's just that these bum ass niggas, it's the first of the year, and they need to get some goddamn views.
And the number one way to get views is to talk about Fresh and Fit.
Make a video saying Fresh and Fit fell off.
Make a video saying Fresh and Fit is failing.
Make a video saying Fresh and Fit is broke When we're still generating six figures every single month, and we make more money now than we did when we were monetized on YouTube.
Could you niggas imagine if we were monetized on YouTube?
Oh, Lord.
I'd be really fucking shitting on you assholes.
About to do a commercial deal right now.
And I'm going to break it down with you guys on how I did it because I've been transparent with my shit.
But when I see these idiots say this dumb shit about they drop the bag and all this other shit, they fumble the bag knowing that we're doing well financially.
It's fucking irritating and it's annoying and it's a goddamn fucking lie.
They want us to feel so fucking bad, bro.
It's crazy.
I open up YouTube.
There's a new nigga with 100 or 200 subscribers making a video on us.
And then it gets 10k views.
So it's very obvious.
It's very fucking obvious.
As much people might say we fell off.
If we fell off, why are you niggas talking about us all the time?
If we fell off, you don't make videos on people that aren't relevant.
That's YouTube 101.
You make videos on people that are relevant, that are trending, so you can get views because people want to see that shit.
But I'll be fucking damned if these losers, these brokeies, these dorks, these talentless fucks are gonna come in and say some fucking bullshit about all these niggas crashed down, fumble the bag, or whatever.
No, we don't fumble shit.
We're doing fucking fine.
And we didn't have to.
And most importantly, not only are we doing fine, we had to sell our souls to be doing fine.
We don't got to worry about sponsors.
YouTube AdSense being like a certain way, we can say what we want to say.
We could criticize certain things.
We could talk about certain topics that are taboo.
Thank God for Rumble and Castle Club down fucking down the market.
Because the real niggas are all on Castle Club and they're all on Rumble.
So no, you bitch ass niggas fumble the bag because you guys are stuck on fucking YouTube and you niggas got to talk shit about us on YouTube to make money.
So who really fumbled the bag?
Now you guys are in a perpetual fucking cycle where the only videos that hit are videos where you talk about Fresh and Fit.
And the thing that's going to suck is when we take over 2025, you niggas are going to look really stupid.
And the video is going to age poorly.
Are you going to continue to be able to make reaction videos say we're falling off when we're more relevant than ever before?
So who really fumbled the bag?
The motherfuckers that aren't necessarily dependent on someone else's failure or a censorship pro platform?
Or the guys can say whatever the fuck they want to say and are still on all the platforms.
Cool.
Yeah, we're demonetized on YouTube.
It sucks.
Yeah.
We're still doing pretty damn good.
Thank God for Rumble.
Thank God for Castle Club.
Thank God for us adding value.
We could bet on ourselves and say what we want to say.
We're not fucking prisoners.
And if we ever get monetized again, oh Lord, I'm going to talk so much fucking shit to you, dickheads, you guys are going to want to turn YouTube off.
I'm going to talk so much fucking shit to you losers if I ever get monetized.
You niggas better pray I don't get remonetized.
Because then you guys are really fucking cooked.
You guys are really fucking cooked.
Myron's unhinged.
He's a racist.
Well, it's going to be worse.
Be on some Ric Flair shit, motherfuckers.
Woo!
Niggas are going to hate me because I'm already taking over everywhere.
You guys can't miss me on Twitter.
Instagram, going hard, posting four or five reels a day, getting crazy engagement.
We're growing like a thousand fucking followers a day almost on Instagram, despite being banned 10 different fucking times.
I will not fucking lose.
That's what you niggas don't understand.
You think two losers in Canada, fat pieces of shit that got no real skills or talent, aren't even funny?
You think them niggas are gonna hold me back from success?
You must fuck.
You guys got another thing fucking coming, bro.
Nothing coming.
I will not fucking lose.
I will die before these motherfuckers try to sit here and disband Fresh and Fit or we quit YouTube or some shit like that.
No, fuck no.
And honestly, all you guys have done, all you guys have done have just motivated me to prove you motherfuckers wrong even more.
I'm going to make all of you eat your fucking words.
Don't bet against me ever in your fucking life.
Don't bet against me.
Because I don't drink alcohol.
I don't party.
I can sit here all fucking day and stream.
I am fucking crazy.
You guys don't know this.
I am fucking crazy.
I will do whatever it takes to fucking win and I'll do it with my integrity intact.
We will not fucking lose.
2025 is our year.
We're here to stay.
I'll be back tomorrow, 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
To all the haters that talk all this shit saying we're going to disband whatever, I'm going to make you motherfuckers eat those words.
I promise y'all.
You guys are going to look very stupid.
Love you guys.
I'll catch you guys on the next one.
5 p.m. tomorrow.
Myron gains excellent all platforms.
Love you, ninjas.
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