Dec. 20, 2024 - MyronGainesX
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| All right, and we are live. | |
| Uh oh man, why does this always happen? | |
| sorry guys let me fix this real quick for some odd reason it's acting crazy all right all right i think we're good what's up welcome to federal acts they're going to be talking about luigi mangi on in his federal case Let's get into it, guys. | |
| Special agent with Homeland Screw investigations. | |
| Okay, guys, HS is what Fed Reacts covered. | |
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| This attack shifted the whole US government. | |
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| One of the most prolific serial killers of all time, killed 33 people. | |
| Zodiac killer is a pseudonym of an unidentified serial killer who operated Northern California. | |
| They really get off on getting attention from the media. | |
| Many years, Jeffrey Epstein sexually exploited and abused dozens of minor girls at it home. | |
| It was OJ working together to get Nicole killed. | |
| We're gonna go over his past, the gang time so that this all makes sense. | |
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| What's up, guys? | |
| Welcome to Fed Reacts, man. | |
| I'm excited to do this with John Davis. | |
| We are on early. | |
| Uh super early. | |
| Um guys, give me ones in the chat if the audio is good. | |
| Give me ones in the chat if audio is good. | |
| Okay, give me ones in the chat. | |
| Uh let's see here. | |
| I'm checking. | |
| We're live on Rumble, we're live on YouTube, we're live on X, we're live everywhere. | |
| I've been cooking on X all day. | |
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| I see a bunch of ones here. | |
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| What's up, guys? | |
| Welcome to the stream. | |
| We got a lot to talk about today. | |
| I think more than likely I'm gonna cover Fed Reacts, obviously, today with this case. | |
| We got a lot to talk about on the federal case, and then also we're going to be covering um a bunch of current events going on, guys. | |
| Um you have obviously um the Andrew Tate case, um Big W in there. | |
| We're gonna talk about that. | |
| We're gonna talk about um Nick Fuentes almost getting assassinated. | |
| Um and then we're gonna also talk about the Hawk Tool girl. | |
| We're gonna talk about Drewski. | |
| We got a lot to talk about today, guys. | |
| A lot of stuff cut going on. | |
| Um, you know, obviously uh TMZ wrote did a piece on me for responding to Fat Boy. | |
| Um, so yeah, so what we're gonna do is we're gonna talk about we're gonna do Fed Reacts first, right? | |
| From five to maybe around seven o'clock or so. | |
| I'm gonna end the stream and then we're gonna go live on Fresh and Fit, and I'm gonna cover the other stuff on Fresh and Fit. | |
| It's only gonna be me today, I think, guys. | |
| I don't know if we're gonna have an after hours. | |
| I'm still checking in with Chris and everything else like that. | |
| So um it's probably gonna just be me. | |
| Um, yeah, it's gonna be me for Fed Reacts, and it's gonna be me for um Fresh and Fit. | |
| I'm gonna run this one solo dolo. | |
| Um, and then if we have an after hours, we'll cover the after hours. | |
| And you guys are probably wondering, Martin, why are you doing Fed Reacts now? | |
| The reason why I'm doing Fed Reacts, guys, is um I'm gonna be going away to Arizona tomorrow. | |
| Uh we're gonna go out to Turney Point USA. | |
| I got my tickets literally last second. | |
| I wasn't gonna go, but you know, I said fuck it. | |
| I'll go. | |
| Um one of the one of my uh buddies got us a spot. | |
| So um uh so I'll be over there. | |
| I'll be over there at Turney Point USA. | |
| Um, you know, I'll be talking with the people, we'll see what happens. | |
| You know, you guys know that I'm pretty uh controversial. | |
| Um, and I tell uh a lot of people would consider me far right, but uh I don't think so, but you know, people say it so alright, whatever the fuck they want to say nowadays. | |
| So yeah, I will be there. | |
| So yeah, so the announcements again, because I see that the numbers are starting to fly up here on Rumble and YouTube, and we're live on X as well. | |
| Shout out to all you ninjas that are watching, by the way. | |
| And I apologize for the delay. | |
| Rumble for some odd reason, uh Rumble Studio made another event. | |
| So to all my Cal Scope guys, I apologize, and also to the guys that were watching on Rumble. | |
| You guys were on the other stream, that's why the numbers are behind a little bit, but uh, but we're live. | |
| So okay, this is how it's gonna go. | |
| I'm gonna cover Luigi Mangioni, right? | |
| First. | |
| We're gonna cover his federal case, we're gonna talk about that. | |
| After that's done, we're gonna do Fresh and Fit. | |
| I'm gonna cover a bunch of topics on there. | |
| I'm gonna cover Andrew Tay case, Nick Fuentes, um, uh Hawk Tool Girl, Drewski. | |
| We're gonna cover literally a bunch of stuff. | |
| It's only gonna be me, okay, on this one. | |
| And then if we have after hours, we'll do after hours, but we might not. | |
| And the reason why again is because I'm going to Arizona tomorrow. | |
| Uh we're gonna be out there at Turning Point USA. | |
| It's gonna be a good time. | |
| Uh meet some people, hang out. | |
| Uh, some people might not like me over there, but that's fine. | |
| It is what it is. | |
| Um, I have no problem having discussions with people that I dislike or I disagree with. | |
| Um, There's no one really on the right that I could think of that I dislike. | |
| There's people I disagree with, but it's on that one topic if you know what I'm saying. | |
| But uh other than that, you know, whatever. | |
| Uh what else? | |
| Um something else is gonna tell you. | |
| Oh, you guys want to know about the Dean Withers debate? | |
| Um we're it's gonna happen. | |
| I talked with him earlier today on Twitter. | |
| We'll see what happens. | |
| Uh I think we're gonna debate something to do with intersexual dynamics, men and women and leadership, maybe. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Uh, so we'll see how that goes. | |
| We'll see how that goes. | |
| You guys know me, I'm not scared to debate anybody. | |
| I'll debate anybody on the left. | |
| It's just that they tend to be scared to debate me for obvious reasons. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Uh, okay, and uh let me see here. | |
| I'm gonna read some chats and then we're gonna get into the show, my ninjas. | |
| Uh all right, so we got here. | |
| Oh, and I got my Christmas sweater on, you know, all the while for Christmas is uh uh Trump back, which he is back, which I'm glad I actually got this sweater last year. | |
| Um, and uh he's in office now, so it's good. | |
| Would you lay Angie on after hours ever again as one of the girls on the panel? | |
| Uh I could. | |
| I mean, it would be funny because she would just like talk shit to the girls, probably at this point. | |
| I've I've uh transformed her, which is great. | |
| She's great. | |
| Martin had a dream, but Martin had a dream, but standing in front of her would be a nightmare. | |
| Oh, in front of uh sexy red. | |
| I see what you mean there with the picture. | |
| Okay, and then we got here revoke the 19 says, Mark question. | |
| I currently live separately from my girl and we have a baby on the way. | |
| Would you suggest moving in together for sake of the relationship? | |
| I know you say it's up to me, but what would you do if you and Angie had a baby on the way is my question. | |
| Uh, well, I mean, in the early stages, I could see why. | |
| Maybe you might want to be there more often, but bro, this is why it's important to live close. | |
| You don't want to live like far as hell. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| But maybe in those early stages, man. | |
| But you gotta, you gotta periodically go in and out, bro. | |
| Trust me, because um she's gonna the more time you spend with your girl, bro, the the the worse it gets for you, trust me. | |
| Um, so let's go ahead and get right into it, guys. | |
| We got some big news with this one, and like I said before, we're gonna um cover a lot tonight. | |
| A lot. | |
| So let's go ahead. | |
| Who's Louis uh Luigi Manioni? | |
| For those that are unaware, I've been living under rock for the past few weeks. | |
| Uh, this is a guy that obviously was involved in the prolific murder of the um the killing, uh the killing of a United Healthcare CEO, right? | |
| Uh pet UPenn graduate, if I'm not mistaken, 26 years old, and he's a data scientist, okay? | |
| So here is the federal press release, right? | |
| U.S. of public affairs, U.S. Department of Justice, the official shit. | |
| Luigi Mancioni charged with the stalking and murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson and use of a silencer in a crime of violence. | |
| Okay. | |
| A criminal complaint was unsealed today, charging Luigi Nicholas Mangioni, 26th of Towson, Maryland, in connection with the December 4th murder of United Healthcare Executive Brian Thompson in midtown Manhattan. | |
| Mangioni was taken into federal custody today, and we presented this afternoon in Manhattan Federal Court before U.S. Magistrate Judge Catherine H. Parker for the Southern District of New York. | |
| Once again, guys, Southern District of New York. | |
| I tell you guys this all the time. | |
| They're a very aggressive district. | |
| They've done some of the biggest cases in the country. | |
| They're also the ones that are prosecuting your boy P. Diddy. | |
| So this is what they do, man. | |
| Very, very um prestigious and uh aggressive United States attorney's office. | |
| Today, the Justice Department brought federal murder charges against Luigi Man Jones said, Attorney General Merrick Brady Garland. | |
| As alleged, man, Gioni planned this attack for months and stalked this victim for days before murdering him. | |
| And we're gonna talk about the stalking charge because there is a um catch 22 with this thing that might hurt them later on. | |
| Methodically planning when, where, and how to carry out this crime, I am grateful to our state and local law enforcement partners for their tireless efforts to locate and apprehend the defendant and to ensure that he answers for his alleged crime. | |
| Brian Thompson was gunned down in cold blood as he walked down a street in midtown Manhattan, blah, blah, blah. | |
| Uh acting U.S. attorney Edward Y. Kim for the Sun District of New York, or yeah. | |
| Thompson was allegedly killed just because he held a position of chief because executive officer of a health insurance company has alleged Luigi Mangioni traveled to New York to stalk and Shoot Thompson in broad daylight in front of the Manhattan Hotel, uh with Hilton, if I'm not saying all in a grossly misguided attempt. | |
| And then um, and just remember, guys, I taught you guys this before, but one more time, nice little refresher for you guys. | |
| If you want to know who the lead agency is on a case, the first law enforcement agency that announces it is the lead agency. | |
| So in this case, right, you got um the US attorney, we know that. | |
| That's gonna be the United States Attorney's Office, they're gonna say that. | |
| Then, um, and then you look here, it goes boom. | |
| So James E. Denehy of the FBI New York Field Office. | |
| So this is the assistant director. | |
| Wow. | |
| Okay, so that's pretty high up. | |
| Um, Luigi Manjier allegedly conducted the carefully premeditated and targeted execution of Brian Thompson to incite national debates. | |
| Said assistant director James E. Denehy of the J uh FBI New York field office. | |
| This uh alleged plot demonstrates a cavalier attitude towards humanity, deeming murder an appropriate recourse to satiate personal grievances through continued close partnership with NYPD. | |
| The FBI maintains our steadfast commitment to fervently pursue any individual promotes personal agenda through violence, okay? | |
| So NYPD detectives work relentlessly to identify and widely distribute images of the suspect who allegedly carried out this premeditated pre-planned target of murder. | |
| So we're gonna go through the complaint. | |
| They go through more of this stuff, but we're gonna go ahead and go right to the document itself. | |
| We're gonna bring it back to old school Fed reaction, okay, and we are gonna actually read the complaint. | |
| Calcum! | |
| Okay. | |
| Um, because we're gonna break this thing down and then we're gonna react to a video. | |
| But before I read the complaint, this is him arriving in New York yesterday, okay, roughly yesterday afternoon. | |
| Look at this shit. | |
| And I want you guys to pay attention. | |
| So they brought him by helicopter. | |
| You can see our FBI NYPD joint task force. | |
| We're gonna talk about what a task force is here very soon. | |
| Um, and I'll explain that to you, but this is all by design. | |
| And I find it interesting that no one, no FBI agents, it looks like, are there. | |
| These are FBI, NYPD task force officers. | |
| And I apologize, guys, for the sound for some odd reason that's only coming out my left headphone. | |
| Uh, I guess um, who's this? | |
| NBC New York is stupid. | |
| He's a better sound engineer. | |
| They need Mo on their team. | |
| So he gets off the plane. | |
| He has, and this is uh this is done all the time by NYPD guys. | |
| This is what's known as a PERP walk, okay, perpetrator walk, where um they bring him out, and obviously they got the cameras there and everything else like that. | |
| Now, I know a lot of you guys are wondering what the fuck, why are so many aid officers? | |
| We're gonna talk about that here in a second as well. | |
| And I'm also going to explain to you guys task forces. | |
| So Look at that, you got the fucking photographer here, you got the SWAT guys, you got the task force guys, and then you got the detectives, right? | |
| So you got these are these two detectives, more than likely, I'm willing to bet, are the case detectives, okay? | |
| Um and the case detective is the guy that's running the case on the New York side that's running this investigation, right? | |
| Um you got the SWAT guys, and you got these task force officers. | |
| Now, they're probably wondering, Matt, what the fuck is a task force officer? | |
| Why are these guys um wearing FBI NYPD JTF raid jackets? | |
| Well, the reason why, guys, is so federal law enforcement agencies often have task forces, okay? | |
| And when they have these task forces, what ends up happening is you have something called task force officers. | |
| A task force officer, also known as a TFO, right? | |
| They have their state authority or whatever authority they have with their agency while simultaneously being able to have federal authority. | |
| So task source officers, guys, are a great way to um get more bot more bodies, more resources, more law enforcement personnel in your agency to help you out while same simultaneously being able to use their different authorities or jurisdictional authorities to your advantage. | |
| I'll give you guys an example. | |
| So, let's go on to a dream scenario. | |
| So, let's say, as the FBI special agent, right? | |
| You have just the authorities that are given to you federally through um, you know, federal mandates for the FBI. | |
| But you can't do traffic stops, you can't enforce state laws, you can't give out citations, you can't do a lot of things that state law enforcement officers can do. | |
| Okay, this is why you bring in people that work with the state agencies, maybe NYPD, state police, et cetera, because they have resources that the feds don't have, right? | |
| As you guys can see, the NYPD has enormous amount of resources. | |
| We're talking SWAT teams, helicopters, all this shit. | |
| The feds typically don't have this. | |
| Can I news bomb squads, all that shit. | |
| So when you have these guys embedded within your agency, you can use their resources, and those guys have the authority to do federal cases as well as do state cases because they're deputized and basically carry around FBI credentials and they're able to assist, right? | |
| And there's many different task forces that encompass different law force agencies. | |
| The biggest one at the FBI has is something called the JTTF, Joint Terrorism Task Force, not to be confused with the JTF. | |
| This is a different squad, which I'm gonna talk about here in a second, but I'm using the JTTF example for you guys, because that's the most common. | |
| And a joint terrorism task force, guys, JTTF, is a task force uh that works together to combat terrorism, right? | |
| And you have agencies from all over the country. | |
| You got HSI there, my former agency, you got FBI as the lead, you got um NYPD there, you're gonna have the state police there, you're gonna have um State Department, Secret Service, DEA, ATF, everybody is there, okay? | |
| Absolutely covering uh everybody's there. | |
| So that's what a joint terrorism task force is. | |
| Now, this case is JTF. | |
| This is more than likely um the Safe Street Task Force, which I we're gonna talk about in the complaint. | |
| So they're walking them around, right? | |
| And there was probably an agreement that it's only gonna be NYPD. | |
| You can see, look, the mayor of New York, right there as well, right? | |
| And you know what? | |
| They another reason why I don't think the FBI was there, guys, like FBI agents, was because for those of you that are aware, um, it's Eric Adams, if I'm not mistaken, he's under indictment right now. | |
| He's literally he's under indictment right now by the FBI for um for accepting money from the Turkish government. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Also, guys, do me a favor. | |
| Uh we got uh 2,500 of y'all watching right now on Fed Reacts. | |
| It's uh happy to have you here. | |
| Do me a salad, guys. | |
| Please like the video. | |
| Um and damn, we got more viewers than usual. | |
| I might have to start streaming this shit on weekdays at 5 p.m., goddamn. | |
| But yeah, guys, like the video, listen to 2,000 likes. | |
| Now, another reason, right? | |
| Because this got a lot of criticism for having a lot of people following him. | |
| The other reason, too, guys, why they did it this way is because um, for those that are unaware, a lot of people on the left actually support Manioni, FYI. | |
| A lot of people support this guy. | |
| So they were worried that someone might try to break him out, some might try to, you know, fight the cops and get him out of custody. | |
| Um, someone might try to assassinate him, obviously, with the high profile of this case. | |
| So, you know, there are some risks with running a perp walk like this. | |
| Obviously, the NYPD are cloud chasers, they want to get the, you know, their notoriety and shit, everything else like that, because they work really hard to fight to get this guy, but at the same time, they don't want any vigilantes coming out and trying to save this guy because a lot of people actually support Manioni, right? | |
| A lot of people look at it like, yo, this guy killed um a corrupt um, you know, CEO for insurance, and we all know that health insurance is a big problem in the United States. | |
| You have a lot of people that aren't covered or they are covered, and these insurance companies work really hard to not necessarily pay out. | |
| So, you know, this is something that's a problem in the United States. | |
| So a lot of people actually empathize with this guy. | |
| So you got detectives, SWAT, task force officers from the FBI there. | |
| But it's all NYPD. | |
| All NYPD. | |
| and the mayor even Only NYPD. | |
| Look at that. | |
| big press run They took him to uh federal court. | |
| I'm willing to bet that this land here that they're uh bringing them on is probably NYPD property. | |
| Another reason as well. | |
| But just so you guys know, NYPD is the biggest police department in the world. | |
| I think they got 40,000 sworn-in officers. | |
| 30 to 40,000. | |
| Biggest police department in the world, bro. | |
| Crazy. | |
| All right. | |
| So now, here is a criminal complaint, guys. | |
| Here's the federal criminal complaint here. | |
| Alright. | |
| I pulled this thing off PACER. | |
| Or actually, well, it's on PACER, and also you can get it from on the actual website here, right? | |
| Because they have the complaint here that with the hyperlink. | |
| So we're gonna read through this thing. | |
| All right. | |
| Um old school Fed reacts type shit. | |
| We're gonna read through this thing and uh kind of break it down and react to a video. | |
| So, criminal complaint, right? | |
| We've talked about this before, but I'll go ahead and rehash you guys for those that are unaware. | |
| There's three main ways to get charged in the United States federally via criminal complaint, indictment, or an information. | |
| Those are the three main ways that you're gonna be arrested in the United States federally. | |
| Now, a criminal complaint is an app is uh is basically a complaint uh supported by an affidavit sworn by an FBI agent or HSI or whatever. | |
| I've run hundreds of these things when I was on a job. | |
| So um basically what ends up happening is I like criminal complaints because you can actually read all the probable cause in the case. | |
| So it's uh it's really good for kind of figuring out how the hell the cops came onto this guy. | |
| All right. | |
| So let me move my mug to up top here so we can go through this document. | |
| Okay. | |
| Um gonna go ahead. | |
| And guys, just so you know, um, if you guys want to get involved in the show, uh you could if we're I'm live streaming on Rumble and on YouTube, you can go ahead and go FNF Super Chat.com, right? | |
| I'll put that right here. | |
| There it is. | |
| Um you can super chat through there, you can super chat via Rumble Rant, Rumble uh if you're watching on Rumble. | |
| Um if you're watching on YouTube, FNF Super Chat.com. | |
| And uh yeah, let's keep going. | |
| Uh and let me make sure I didn't miss anybody here. | |
| Uh we got here Juice Krunek says old school Fed it f uh Fed it. | |
| Absolutely, you'd know it, bro. | |
| We're gonna go ahead and read through this complaint. | |
| I'm gonna give you guys my professional background a lot of this shit and educate you guys. | |
| Um, try up traveling solo to Arizona. | |
| Will you IRL stream while you're out there? | |
| Yeah, I'm traveling by myself. | |
| I might do some videos, guys. | |
| Um, but uh I'm not gonna IRL stream. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay, so United States District Southern District of New York, United States of America, 18 USC, 20 uh 2261A, 2261B, 924 J, and 924 C, okay. | |
| So basically, as you guys know, 18 USC is is uh criminal, like uh 18 USC, and then 924. | |
| This is gonna be a gun charge here. | |
| And this probably is stalking and murder. | |
| So um, okay, so here we go. | |
| Count one, stalking, travel interstate commerce, right? | |
| Count two, stalking, use of interstate facilities. | |
| Okay, and then count three, murder through the use of a firearm. | |
| Here, this basically is saying that he was use a phone during the commission of the crime, which affects interstate commerce, and then count one, travel and interstate commerce. | |
| You guys remember he took a greyhound bus uh from if I if I'm not mistaken from Georgia, all the way up to um all the way up to New York. | |
| Uh guys, we only got 335 likes, guys. | |
| Do me a favor, let's get to 1,000. | |
| Come on, man. | |
| Ain't nobody gonna give you guys a better breakdown on this shit than me. | |
| So let's go ahead and uh like the video and uh let's get this thing cooking, right? | |
| So, and uh, oh, and count four, firearms offense, count three, murder through use of firearm, cool. | |
| So, so this is the agent that wrote this affidavit. | |
| His name is uh Gary W. Cove, Cobb, being duly sworn deposed and states that he's a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and charges as follows. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm especially the FBI and am aside to the FBI's violent crimes task force. | |
| Okay, what is the violence of crimes task force? | |
| So I've talked about this before on other podcasts, but I'm gonna assume we have a lot of new people here. | |
| So in every major city in the United States, guys, there's an FBI field office. | |
| And all these FBI field offices have something called the JTTF, Joint Terrorism Task Force, and they're also gonna have a violent crimes task force, also known as a safe street size force. | |
| Typically um they're the same, right? | |
| But these groups, violent crime sales forces, or squads as the FBI calls them, typically investigate any type of violent crime. | |
| They typically will do, um, depending on the size of the group and the size of the city, they'll do bank robberies, they'll do gang violence, they'll do organized crime that facilitates some type of violence, um, shootings, all that stuff. | |
| If I'm not mistaken, it was LA violent crimes that did the little Dirt case, which by the way, Dirk is, oh man. | |
| If you guys want to re- uh know some more about the Dirk case, I covered this in detail on another episode of Fed Reacts. | |
| I also gave my uh my uh take on it with um with academics. | |
| So I previously um I've been personally involved in the investigation of this matter. | |
| This affidavit is based on my conversations with other law enforcement officers, my examination documents obtained through a court authorized search warrant. | |
| That's important. | |
| Okay, that's really important that they went ahead and they got search warrants. | |
| Um my review of documents prepared by others, security camera video and my involvement in this investigation because of that David is being submitted for the limited purpose of establishing probable cause that does not include all the facts that I have learned through the course of my investigation. | |
| Okay, what does that mean? | |
| That means, guys, that everything that we're gonna read is just some of the stuff that they know. | |
| It's not everything, okay? | |
| They only give enough bare minimum required to get probable cause, get a judge to sign and get the arrest warrant and get the guy into the fucking court system. | |
| Okay? | |
| Because keep in mind, when you are arrested by a criminal complaint in the United States of America, you also need to be indicted. | |
| And an indictment is a formal charge. | |
| The criminal complaint just kind of starts the process, right? | |
| Um, and it's typically done when you don't have time to indict the guy, you got the guy in your custody, he's here, you want to make something happen. | |
| You you write that you the agent writes a criminal complaint, file the affidavit, give it to the judge, judge size it, boom, you could put him into the court system, right? | |
| But when um but when you have time, you'd like to indict. | |
| So they're gonna have to indict him probably within 14 days here, okay. | |
| Where the contents of documents and actions, statements, and conversations of others are reported here in their reported substance in their part except where otherwise indicated. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| That means um everything what when I tell you something, it's summarized. | |
| It's not everything. | |
| All right. | |
| And that's kind of a CYA cover your own ass. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let's start getting into it. | |
| Based on my participation in investigation, my conversation of the law, okay, we know that. | |
| All right. | |
| On December 4th, 2024, at a proxy 645 a.m., Brian Thompson, the victim, the CEO of Nationwide Health Umsurance Company, Company One, was shot killed by a mass assailant, the shooter. | |
| All right, so now we know that and this is what they do. | |
| Company one is basically um nationwide health. | |
| And then the shooter is gonna be referred to as um Luigi, right? | |
| Mangioni. | |
| While walking on West 54th Street toward a hotel in Midtown Manhattan, the Midtown Hotel, where Company One invest uh investor conference was scheduled to begin at 8 a.m. | |
| It's scheduled is discussed below. | |
| The shooter was later identified as uh Luigi Nicholas Mangioni, the defendant. | |
| Security camera showed the shooter who was wearing a gray backpack, the gray backpack, come from between two parked cars, walk up behind the victim and shoot the victim in the leg and back outside of the midtown hotel's entrance on West 54th Street. | |
| The farm the shooter used appeared to have uh a sound suppressing device or silencer attached to the front of its barrel. | |
| A still image from the security video of the shooting is provided below. | |
| And this is obviously the iconic photo that everyone references, right? | |
| All the time. | |
| Law enforcement personnel who responded to the scene of the shooting, recovered, among other items, spent nine millimeter case shape uh uh shell casings in at least one round of law nine millimeter ammunition. | |
| The words deny, delay, and depose were written on the side of the uh of some of the shell casings. | |
| Responding law enforcer personnel also recovered a cell phone in the vicinity of the location where the shooting had occurred. | |
| So now they're gonna do go into the case. | |
| Uh and he's gonna repeat himself. | |
| Look, this this stuff came from me discussing with other law enforcement officers, because guys, keep in mind the FBI more than likely came in after the fact and worked with the NYPD alongside them because they were probably gonna run this case as a state case. | |
| Now, I called this. | |
| I don't think I missed when it comes to Fed Reacts. | |
| Have I have I missed yet? | |
| I don't know if I have. | |
| Um The thing is is that um with this with this case, the state, this is a murder case. | |
| So the state almost always runs first, and then the feds are gonna follow because we know that there's not really federal murder statutes like that. | |
| You need to affect, you need to trigger some other federal nexus to get a murder charge, which is why they're saying, hey, he traveled to interstate commerce, right? | |
| He affected interstate commerce by traveling, so now we could get him for murder. | |
| And then they're also using the stalking, which we're gonna talk about that stalking charge here in a second as well. | |
| Uh by the way, guys, we only got 419 likes. | |
| Let's get to 1000 and just let's get to 1,000. | |
| I don't want to hold the show hostage. | |
| Just like the shoot, like just like the video, so we can keep cooking here. | |
| Um, okay. | |
| So from that review, investigators were able to formulate the following timeline of the shooter's movements from November 24th up to and including December 4th, 2024. | |
| As you guys know, Mangione spent approximately 10 days in New York. | |
| So we're gonna go through this. | |
| November 24th, 2024. | |
| On November 24th, 2024 at approximately 10, 11 p.m., the shooter arrived in New York City on an intercity bus at the Port Authority bus terminal in Manhattan. | |
| Um the bus originated in Atlanta, Georgia. | |
| The shooter took a taxi to the area around the Midtown Hotel and stayed in the area for approximately one hour before taking another taxi to a hostel located in the upper west side of Manhattan. | |
| The shooter rested at the hostel under the name Mark Rosario and provided a false New Jersey's uh and false New Jersey driver's license as a form of identification, the false New Jersey ID. | |
| And this is gonna come later. | |
| That's why they're putting this in parentheses, by the way. | |
| Anytime you read a criminal complaint like this, guys, or an affidavit, and they label it something like this, that means you're gonna see it later on in the document. | |
| Pro tip right there. | |
| A photograph of the false New Jersey ID is provided below. | |
| And you guys can see here, this was what he used when he checked into the hostel, right? | |
| When the shooter is checking in out of the hostel, the desk clerk asked the shooter to remove his mask, which he did, revealing his face to a security camera as shown below, right? | |
| This is when he was allegedly flirting with the girl. | |
| Other than this interaction with the desk clerk, the shooter consistently kept his mask on throughout his time in New York, including while inside the hostel. | |
| Now, I know some of you guys are like, Mara, what the fuck? | |
| Like, how did this guy get around and have his mask on the whole time and no one gave a shit? | |
| Guys, in New York, people are woke weirdos, okay? | |
| If you walk around New York with a mask on, no one's gonna say anything to you. | |
| It's a liberal city, it's a liberal state. | |
| People still wear masks in 2024. | |
| I know. | |
| I know. | |
| But people are weird like that, bro. | |
| It is what it is. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let's keep cooking. | |
| Um, other than that, this interaction with the desk clerk, uh, okay, sorry. | |
| So now we're going into December 4th, right? | |
| So for 10 days, this nigga was just hanging out in New York, right? | |
| Probably handing on some girls, traveling, taking pictures, you know, touring, all that, right? | |
| On December 4th, 2024, exposed to 5 35 a.m., the shooter left the hostel wearing the gray backpack and rode an electric bicycle down Central Park to a location near Midtown Hotel as shown below. | |
| And for some of you guys that are unaware, in major cities, these um, these uh electric bikes are very common. | |
| New York has them, Boston has them, they have them. | |
| People rent them out, you can use a credit card uh and just like basically, you know, or a debit card, whatever, and ride that thing. | |
| Pause. | |
| Guys, like the video. | |
| 1,000 likes. | |
| We only got 400, y'all niggas 465. | |
| Come on. | |
| We should be at a thousand. | |
| We got 2300 of you guys watching on uh YouTube, and then like another five or six hundred watching on Rumble on uh the Fed Reacts channel. | |
| All right. | |
| So, let's keep going. | |
| Um here's the pictures of him, right? | |
| And guys, just so you guys know too, New York. | |
| They got cameras everywhere, bro. | |
| They got cameras everywhere in New York City because crime is so rampant and there's a lot of shootings. | |
| So uh they have these cameras all over the place. | |
| At approximately 5 41 a.m., the shooter walked around the area of the Midtown Hotel and at one point purchased items from a nearby coffee shop. | |
| We know that's the Starbucks, right? | |
| The shooter then returned to a bench in the vicinity of the Midtown Hotel on at least one occasion prior to the murder, the shooter depicted was depicted using a cell phone. | |
| At approximately 6 45 a.m., after waiting near the Midtown Hotel for approximately an hour, the shooter saw and approached the victim, shot the victim multiple times, and then fled on foot to West 55th Street, where the shooter mounted the electric bicycle and rode towards Central Park. | |
| After disappearing inside the park for a period of time, the shooter was captured on video, again, exiting the park near West 77th Street and Central Park West, riding north on Central Park West. | |
| When he emerged from the park, the shooter was no longer carrying the gray backpack as shown below. | |
| Right? | |
| So he comes out on the bike, no backpack, right? | |
| At approximately 6.58 a.m., security camera footage captured the shooter riding the electric bicycle near West 85th Street and Columbus Avenue. | |
| Two minutes later, at approximately 7 a.m., the shooter was captured on video walking near West 86th Street and Columbus Avenue without the electric bicycle. | |
| Right. | |
| So at approximately 7.04 a.m., the shooter entered a taxi that drove him to the George Washington Bridge bus terminal in the vicinity of West 179th Street and Fort Washington Avenue in Upper Manhattan. | |
| The shooter's face was captured by Cameron Taxi as shown below. | |
| And here he is with the mask. | |
| Those bushy eyebrows. | |
| At approximately 7:30 a.m., the video footage from the George Washington uh bridge bus terminal captured the shooter entering the facility. | |
| No video footage showed the shooter leaving the bus terminal suggesting that shooter left New York City. | |
| On or about December 6th, 2024, law enforcement officers searching Central Park found a gray backpack matching the appearance of the gray backpack worn by the shooter as depicted below. | |
| And you guys remember when we covered this case, when this originally happened, they were looking for the murder weapon. | |
| They were searching the area for the backpack. | |
| It took them a bit to find it. | |
| Because they were like, what the hell's going on? | |
| What did he leave in that park? | |
| Right. | |
| And here's the backpack when they found it. | |
| The arrest and identification of the shooter. | |
| And for the uh, I don't know why he didn't mention the complaint, but they found monopoly money in the backpack. | |
| So obviously, what is that? | |
| To taunt the police, right? | |
| Which uh that was his way of saying, uh, yeah, fuck you guys. | |
| All right. | |
| The arrest and identification of the shooter. | |
| Right. | |
| And again, he says this is based on my participation in the investigation. | |
| Because again, guys, a lot of this work was done with that by the NYPD, and the FBI kind of came in to assist and was able to attack on federal charges. | |
| On December 9th, 2024, at approximately 9.14 a.m., a worker at a fast food restaurant in Altoona, Pennsylvania, called the police about a male customer later identified as Luigi Nicholas Manioni, the defendant, who the worker believed resembled photos of the shooter that had been broadcast in the media following the victim's murder. | |
| Members of the Altoona police department responded and countered Manion, who they also believed uh matched the appearance of the shooter. | |
| Uh, let me make sure here. | |
| And shout out to all you guys uh watching the show right now on uh Rumble, YouTube, etc. | |
| Love y'all ninjas, Castle Club. | |
| Shout out to all you guys. | |
| Um guys, again, like the video. | |
| Let's get this thing up in the algorithm because it's gonna be the best breakdown of this case on YouTube. | |
| When approached by responding officers and asked for identification, Mangiano offered the false New Jersey ID. | |
| Guys, why is this important? | |
| Because that is the same ID that he used to check into the hotel as shown earlier, right? | |
| Now, what are the chances you're gonna find somebody in a fucking McDonald's hundreds of miles away in Pennsylvania with the same fake ID? | |
| Come on, man. | |
| There ain't no codge campus there. | |
| He ain't trying to get into no bar. | |
| So, and he's of age. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| That was a big one. | |
| All right. | |
| Manioni was later found to be in possession of a loaded nine millimeter pistol and silencer consistent with the weapon used to kill the victim, clothing uh that matched the apparel that the shooter wore in the security camera videos, a notebook, the notebook, again, guys, pro tip. | |
| When they mentioned the complaint one time and they put a thing like that parentheses, it means it's gonna get mentioned again. | |
| Several thousand dollars in cash, an envelope associated with an FDIC insured bank, and a letter addressed to the feds. | |
| The Fed letter. | |
| Could have got away with it if it wasn't for that meddling fucking McDonald's employee. | |
| The nine millimeter pistol and silencer were later tested and found to be operable by a ballistics examiner from the New York City Police Department. | |
| Photographs of the firearm and silencer recovered from Manioni are depicted below. | |
| And if I'm not mistaken, this was a ghost gun, guys. | |
| Right? | |
| So uh yeah, crazy. | |
| And well, basically, guys, this kind of was an issue when I was on a job back in the day. | |
| These ghost guns, you basically get parts from all over the place, and you assemble the gun, right? | |
| And that might explain why every time he shot, he had to reload. | |
| If you guys remember, when he was shooting the weapon, he c had to constantly um uh not reload, excuse me, pull the slide back, right? | |
| To eject the the the round. | |
| So, because it kept getting jammed, and this is this happens with these ghost guns because it's not properly manufactured. | |
| You're getting parts from all over the place, putting it together, you know what I mean? | |
| It's just like a fucking jumble fuck. | |
| So what's up happening, excuse me, is the gun isn't optimal, uh, isn't operable on an optimal level, right? | |
| The notebook contains several handwritten pages that express hostility towards the health insurance industry and wealthy executives in particular. | |
| For example, the notebook contained the following statements and entries that appear to correspond to particular dates. | |
| In an entry marked as of 815, the notebook, uh, August 15th, uh described how the details are finally coming together, and quote, I'm glad in a way that I've procrastinated because it allowed me to learn more about acronym for company one. | |
| The notebook also stated that the target is insurance because it checks every box. | |
| In an entry marked as 1022 October 22nd, the notebook stated 1.5 months. | |
| This investor conference is a true windfall, and most importantly, the message becomes self-evident. | |
| Later on in the entry, the notebook describes an intent to whack the CEO of one of the insurance companies at its investor conference. | |
| As described above, October 20 uh 2nd, 2024 is a proxy six weeks before the date of the murder of the victim, which occurred on the date of Company One's investor conference. | |
| Holy This nigga's cooked. | |
| Oh man. | |
| Wow. | |
| Yeah, he's cooked. | |
| For all you guys that said, oh, he didn't do it. | |
| He's gonna win. | |
| Yeah, okay, bro. | |
| Stupid. | |
| Holy. | |
| The Fed's letter recovered for Mangioni stated, I wasn't working with anyone. | |
| This was fairly trivial. | |
| Some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. | |
| Based on my own research, I believe that CAD refers to computer-aided design. | |
| The Fed letter also stated, P.S. You can check serial numbers to verify this is all self-funded. | |
| my own atm withdrawals Based on all of the above, my review of photographs of the shooter and my review of arrest photographs of Luigi McNicholas Manjoni, the defendant, I respectfully submit that Manjoni is a shooter who shot and killed the victim on December 4th, 2024. | |
| Additionally, the notebook entries, the Fed's letter, the shooter's apparent surveillance of the Midtown Hotel on November 24th, 2024, and December 4th, 2024. | |
| Remember, guys, the first day he got there, he spent some hours there. | |
| Uh and the shooter's use of counter-surveillance techniques and escape from New York City all suggests that the shooter undertook extensive efforts to identify the victim, place the victim under surveillance, and track the victim's whereabouts in the time period leading up to the murder. | |
| Belarus surveillance stills of the shooter and arrest photograph of Manion. | |
| On the left rest photograph Manioni on the right, shooter at the hostel, right? | |
| Showing that they're that they look similar. | |
| Wherefore, I respectfully request that our warrant be issued for the arrest of Luigi and Nicholas Manchioni, the defendant, and that he be in prison or bailed as a case may be. | |
| Gary C. W. Cobb, special agent, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and you can see that the judge signed it. | |
| So yeah, that's quite a bit of evidence in a very short complaint here. | |
| Uh, very, very interesting stuff. | |
| So again, you guys are probably wondering, yo, Myron, are you capping, bro? | |
| And you said that people would like this guy and were fans. | |
| Well, let's go ahead. | |
| Look at this shit. | |
| Look at these supporters. | |
| We're here because I have been personally affected by my health care and my inability to get care because of my insurance. | |
| And frankly, terrible American healthcare system. | |
| Universal health care now or free Luigi. | |
| And privatized health care is a crime against humanity. | |
| Yo, he has fans, guys. | |
| Every other country, every other industrialized country on the planet has it. | |
| So I don't think we would struggle that much to find one that would work for us. | |
| The systematic is the same as murder would have gone. | |
| No, there's no difference. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| Struggle that much to find one that would work for us. | |
| That's systematic. | |
| Uh murder is the same as Ben Friedman. | |
| Murder would have gone. | |
| No, there's no difference. | |
| So um has to have an show. | |
| That's my life to sit in jail for it. | |
| So, as y'all can see here, he has a lot of supporters. | |
| But it's killing lot of loonies on the left. | |
| While murder is not something that needs to be glorified in any way, um, the health insurance industry is oppressive to people. | |
| Um, it is violent. | |
| It um you know, is inserts itself as a paywall between people and care. | |
| And we need to recognize that um it's been brought to our attention as a populist now. | |
| And I just want to, you know, take this moment and push for more recognition of needed change in policy. | |
| I think it's important to recognize wearing the mask as well. | |
| Anyway, yeah. | |
| So the point is you can see here that we got some uh weird individuals that are uh on this shit. | |
| Right. | |
| Also, guys, do me a favor, please like the video. | |
| We only got uh 576 likes. | |
| Let's get to 1000. | |
| Let's get to 1,000 guys. | |
| Like that video. | |
| Just smash that like button. | |
| It helps a lot with the algorithm. | |
| All right. | |
| Helps a lot. | |
| So uh, let's see here. | |
| So we're gonna go ahead and react to this video. | |
| All right, this comes from uh the uh law and crime, and I wanted to go through the criminal complaint with you guys first, so you guys are aware, and uh, because we're gonna talk about the criminal complaint quite a bit here. | |
| So uh let's go ahead. | |
| Back in New York right now, the same bustling city where police say Manion laid in wait for the CEO of United Healthcare to walk by before shooting him in the city. | |
| I got it. | |
| Uh let's go ahead and put this shit. | |
| Boom. | |
| All right, let's get into it. | |
| In the back and killing him. | |
| Now, not only does he face criminal charges in both Pennsylvania and New York state, He faces federal charges too. | |
| And the newly unsealed federal complaint is giving us a look at a potential motive behind the seemingly targeted attack. | |
| Welcome to Cybar. | |
| Presented by Law and Crime, I'm Jesse Weber. | |
| Hey guys, so this is pretty scary. | |
| Did you know that children are being diagnosed with serious conditions like type 2 diabetes and non-alcoholic fatty healthcare CEO Brian Thompson officially back in New York City after he waived extradition this morning at the courthouse in Blair County, Pennsylvania? | |
| Pennsylvania is where, of course, he was apprehended days after the shooting of Thompson outside of the Hilton Hotel in Midtown Manhattan. | |
| Remember, Magione was arrested in McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. | |
| And when he was arrested, law enforcement apparently found this 3D gun, this nine millimeter pistol, silencer, suppressor in his possession as well. | |
| Which authorities say all of this was consistent with the weapon that was used to kill Brian Thompson. | |
| And also found on him is what's believed to be the fake ID that he allegedly used to check into a New York hostel in the days before the murder. | |
| So what happened? | |
| Manion arrived, handcuffed in a bright orange gel jumpsuit, according to New York Times reporter in the room. | |
| Manion gave short answers to the judge when asked if he understood what he was agreeing to. | |
| The report from the Times also noted that Manioni was very expressive at the defense table, nodding, shrugging, raising, lowering his eyebrows. | |
| And in Pennsylvania, Manioni is charged with possession of an unlicensed firearm forgery and providing false identification to police, but he really faces the more serious charges in New York. | |
| So state charges, he faces eleven in total. | |
| He's charged with three counts of murder, including first degree murder committed in furtherance of terrorism. | |
| That could mean life in prison if he's convicted. | |
| Keep in mind, this is from the state guys. | |
| But here's the thing. | |
| When Mangione was brought back to New York, he didn't appear in state court to face state charges. | |
| No, no, no, no, no. | |
| He appeared in federal court. | |
| Why? | |
| Because he is now facing federal charges as well. | |
| The complaint charges him, this federal complaint that was unsealed, charges him with four crimes. | |
| Stalking, travel and interstate commerce. | |
| Stalking, use of interstate facilities. | |
| Murder through use of a firearm and a firearms offense. | |
| And by the way, this is a complaint. | |
| Obviously, there will need to be a grand jury indictment. | |
| We'll talk about that a little bit more. | |
| But after the hearing in Pennsylvania, Mangione left the courthouse in the custody of officers. | |
| From There he was put on a chartered plane, flown straight to New York City. | |
| He touched down a reporting indicates in Long Island, was transported via helicopter to New York City, and based on reporting and photos. | |
| And the feds absolutely helped with getting him there quicker. | |
| you know what I mean, with the federal arrest warrants. | |
| That were released, he was heavily guarded by law enforcement. | |
| In fact, according to CNN chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst John Miller, quote, "The security around Mangione today is because "of what they've been seeing in terms "of the public support for him." A lot of people on the left support this guy, guys. | |
| A lot of people. | |
| You know, and obviously it did bring up uh the conversation about health care in the United States. | |
| I talked about this last episode, but I'll quickly bring it up for all my foreign uh people out there. | |
| Um, you know, we don't have universal health care here. | |
| So you are at the mercy of these health insurance companies, and these health insurance companies, they're to make money. | |
| And unfortunately, to make money, they're not really interested in giving you coverage because for them to give you coverage, that means that they gotta pay money. | |
| So what's up happening is insurance, right, is the only business really where they do everything in their power to not give you the service that you pay for. | |
| They have auditors, forensic auditors, investigators, etc. | |
| They do everything in their power to not actually uh pay the claim. | |
| So um, you know, people feel a lot of people feel that this is a problem in the country, and obviously uh this wasn't the best way to go about it with this guy Luji Luigi Mangioni, but he did bring up something uh that this bring that did bring to light uh conversation that we've you know kind of somewhat ducked in America. | |
| So uh yeah, yeah. | |
| Uh and a lot of people, a lot of liberals like love this guy, especially the Thaddees. | |
| They love this nigga, man. | |
| So who knows what would have uh happened, which is why they had him under such uh intense law enforcement security. | |
| And also they got they're responsible for safety too. | |
| They can't let anybody like kill him either, right? | |
| They don't want anybody breaking him out or anyone trying to kill him. | |
| And their security worries about somebody not trying to attack him, but to try and free him from law enforcement. | |
| That's an interesting perspective because that could definitely be the case given this large outpouring of support for Mangioni and the killing of Thompson. | |
| You know, you've seen this uh amongst a certain segment of the population, those who have this resentment towards the health insurance industry, United Healthcare and/or corporate America. | |
| But that didn't stop New York City Mayor Eric Adams from being one of the people who actually escorted. | |
| And as you guys know, he he uh got indicted himself by the FBI a couple months back. | |
| I actually covered it here on um on uh on Fed Reacts if you guys want to go check it out. | |
| We got um Jabriel uh says uh from Casclub says, I thought we was having a clan meeting too. | |
| Yeah, that's gonna be um that's gonna be the fresh fit episode, bro. | |
| Um W old school fed it. | |
| Appreciate that. | |
| I read that one, I think, already, though. | |
| ...Mangioni after he landed in that helicopter. | |
| In remarks today, Mayor Adams said the act of terrorism, the violence that stems from Mangioni's case, is something that will not be tolerated in the city. | |
| We wanted to personally be here to show the symbolism of leading from the front. | |
| He added, a person that uses a gun to solve a concern... | |
| My man wants to add pardon. | |
| It's on a school campus or on our streets. | |
| There are mechanisms in this country for how to organize around those issues of concern. | |
| And he also said you don't use a gun. | |
| So this hearing in federal court in the Southern District of New York happened. | |
| And what happened? | |
| Well, Mangioni confirmed to the judge that he understands his rights, that he's seen the federal complaint. | |
| His attorneys apparently didn't fight for bail, as prosecutors were asking he be detained pending trial. | |
| Yeah, he is not gonna get bonded. | |
| No fucking way. | |
| He's that's just a waste of time to even have a uh a bail or any of that shit. | |
| Which, oh, by the way, guys, 640 likes, let's hit 1,000. | |
| I don't want to have to start the show, chat. | |
| Come on, man. | |
| Say 1,000. | |
| But the defense said we reserve our right to argue this at a later date. | |
| So to talk more about the details revealed in the federal complaint and a lot more, I want to bring on friend of the show, former prosecutor, current criminal defense attorney, Serena Townsend. | |
| Serena, thank you so much for coming on cyber. | |
| I really appreciate it. | |
| Thank you so much for having me. | |
| Okay, so Serena, parts of the complaint confirmed information that we had seen reporting on, and other parts kind of gave us new details. | |
| I'll get to that in a minute. | |
| But before we even get to all of that, I gotta ask you about these federal charges here. | |
| Because my understanding is this could bring the death penalty. | |
| So I first want to start, and that's with respect to the murder charge. | |
| I'll get to that in a second. | |
| I first have to ask your opinion about the stalking charges. | |
| So we have the first office. | |
| Okay, this is important because the stalking charge is kind of gonna be the foundation of all the other charges. | |
| Charge uh that is centered around him allegedly traveling in interstate commerce, namely that he went from Georgia to New York with the intent to kill and place Thompson under surveillance with the intent to kill him. | |
| And then we have count two, Stalking by the intent with the intent to kill and placing him under surveillance with the intent to kill, and that Mangioni allegedly used an electronic communication service and system of interstate commerce and a facility, namely using a cell phone and internet to plan and carry out the stalking, the shooting and killing of Thompson. | |
| A lot of words I threw out there. | |
| But basically, what we're saying is these two federal cases. | |
| And like I explained this to you guys before, the feds typically don't take murder cases unless, well, number one, they're high profile like this. | |
| And then two, it affects interstate commerce to some degree. | |
| It needs to affect interstate commerce for the Feds to come in because come in and take it because typically murder cases almost always go to the state. | |
| Charges of stalking with the intent to kill. | |
| What do you make of those? | |
| Listen, honestly, I think it's a stretch. | |
| And it, you know, usually I wouldn't say that. | |
| Usually the feds, before they bring any kind of complaint or indictment, they have a very strong case normally, especially SDF. | |
| And this woman, former prosecutor and defense attorney, so you know, this is a good take to get. | |
| But here's the thing. | |
| And she even said it, SDNY, Southern District of New York, very aggressive United States Attorney's Office, highest success rate. | |
| The stalking charges have an element that must be proven, and that includes that he placed Brian Thompson in reasonable. | |
| And guys, keep in mind, you got FBI in New York, right? | |
| They're running the case as the law enforcement agency on the federal side. | |
| Then you have the United States Attorney's Office, Southern District of New York, that's running the prosecution. | |
| And then obviously you also have NYPD, who has an open case, open criminal case. | |
| And they're also pursuing New York State charges. | |
| So he's being charged in two different jury uh by two different offices, both saying federal, by two different law enforcement agencies. | |
| But keep in mind also that there's NYPD guys on the FBI violent crime task force, right? | |
| Uh as well, that were involved in getting this guy. | |
| Right? | |
| Does that make sense? | |
| Give me ones in a chat if that makes sense, guys. | |
| And then that's then there's also charges on him in Pennsylvania for having like a fake ID and the weapons possession and stuff like that. | |
| Give me ones if the if this makes sense in the chat. | |
| And if it doesn't give me twos, and why it doesn't make sense. | |
| I don't know that they're going to be able to prove that element. | |
| I think, look, if they prove that Luigi is Luigi and this is the right guy, I think they check almost every box of those elements of the stalking charges. | |
| But again, and if you even think of it as a lay person, that's what stalking is, right? | |
| It's that fear. | |
| You're looking behind your back. | |
| There's this guy who won't leave me alone. | |
| He's stalking me. | |
| He's making me fear my life. | |
| I don't know that they're gonna be able to make out that element. | |
| Even in the video of the shooting that we saw, Ryan Thompson does not seem like he's in fear. | |
| He seems like he got shot in the back without knowing it was coming. | |
| Just to be clear, you're saying in order for a stalking charge to work, the victim or the alleged victim has to know they're being surveilled. | |
| So this is big. | |
| This is big, and this is actually a good point that she's bringing up. | |
| Um, that Thompson had to have known, or at least be under some type of uh um knowledge that he was that he was being stalker was uh uh in fear of his life. | |
| Essentially, one of the elements in that in those two stalking charges is that he placed that person in reasonable fear of death. | |
| And I don't know that they're really going to be able to prove that Brian Thompson feared his death. | |
| And I know it seems like just a technicality, but there is a reason for certain charges to be able to be charged and met, and I just don't know that they're going to get there. | |
| Um I am curious about what they found on his on the websites and on the internet usage that he had, because I know that they referenced the fact that he was on a cell phone. | |
| They apparently had seen him on a cell phone during their you know, when they found surveillance footage of what they claim is him. | |
| Um, but I don't know that they know the content of that phone call. | |
| I don't know what they know. | |
| Um they will probably have to seize his electronic, um the the electronics that were they're relying on the cell phone and whatever laptop computers that he was using to be able to determine what he was doing um and make out the interstate commerce part of those elements too. | |
| Interesting, really interesting perspective on that. | |
| By the way, uh one of the interesting things was according to the FBI agent's affidavit that accompanied this complaint, that it says that Manioni took a bus to the Port Authority bus station, but it's still unclear from the complaint if police knew where Manion got on the bus. | |
| I mean, they say that he traveled from Georgia here, but that particular route, I always thought the reporting was it originated, the bus originated in Atlanta. | |
| We just didn't know exactly where he jumped on from, but maybe we'll learn a little bit more about that. | |
| Um I do want to move on to the murder charge, though. | |
| So the federal murder charge, your thoughts on this. | |
| So let me lay it out here. | |
| The federal murder charge, my understanding says that Mangioni, during the alleged stalking, used and carried a firearm to kill Thompson and ended up killing him. | |
| Again, my understanding is the reason they want this is because this carries the death penalty. | |
| So talk to me about whether or not this charge holds. | |
| Yeah, and that's a big deal, the fact that he carries the the death penalty as well. | |
| But that is important to know that Thompson had to have potentially known. | |
| Now, here's the thing, also, okay. | |
| Speculating here, but keep in mind, guys, that they did a search warrant on Thompson's hotel room. | |
| Okay? | |
| So that's super important. | |
| Because what that means is who knows if they found documents that showed that he was in danger for his life. | |
| Maybe he had gotten threats from Man Jioni prior, right? | |
| We know that Manioni had that little manifesto where he was talking about this shit since the fucking summertime. | |
| So who knows if Manioni didn't uh threaten him or if Thompson didn't know that this guy was, you know, this crazy individual is already was following him. | |
| Who knows? | |
| Okay. | |
| Again, remember that criminal complaint only shows what they want to show, right? | |
| The bare minimum for probable cause. | |
| So it's possible that Thompson potentially felt as though his life was in danger. | |
| But we don't know because we know that the police did a search warrant at his hotel room, but we don't know what the contents were. | |
| Also, I think it's important to note that he mentioned in the complaint, right? | |
| Going back to it, remember, we caught this earlier. | |
| He goes, um right here. | |
| So my examination of documents obtained through a court authorized search warrant, right? | |
| So he didn't go specifically. | |
| What's the search warrant he's talking about? | |
| But I know for a fact that they did a search warrant at this dude's house. | |
| That I excuse me, the um the CEO's uh hotel room. | |
| Holds water in your eyes. | |
| So truthfully, I don't think any of the charges hold water simply because all four of the charges rely on that stalking being made out. | |
| Um that's very important. | |
| The stalking holds up all the other charges. | |
| And again, I know it's that technicality, right? | |
| But every single one of the charges either are for stalking or rely on the stalking. | |
| Even the murder charge says that while committing the act of stalking, the crime of stalking, he did X, Y, and Z. I really do think that they're gonna have some trouble with this. | |
| That being said, yes, I you know, the death penalty technically is on the table with that charge. | |
| And if they can prove all of the elements of that charge, technically he could be facing the death penalty, although it is rare that that does happen. | |
| Wouldn't an argument be it it doesn't necessarily have to place the victim in reasonable fear of their life, but it could have, uh if he knew what was going on, or am I am I reading it too broadly? | |
| I mean, I hear what you're saying, I get it. | |
| Yeah, maybe it's the stalking that that could be the problem here. | |
| Um and look, I know why the feds are doing this, right? | |
| It's similar to the murder terrorism charges at the state level. | |
| This is what this is saying. | |
| We are trying to deter anyone from doing something like this in the future, and that Mangioni, they and they believe he did this, needs to be punished. | |
| That this was a unique, agregious murder that deserves the ultimate punishment. | |
| But you're suggesting, I mean, again, wouldn't they have known that? | |
| I I that's the only thing. | |
| I feel like are we reading this too literally because hey guys, we got uh 700 likes. | |
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| How would they be able to put forward that charge without I mean it seems like just on the reading of the statute, they should have known that. | |
| There's gotta be something more here. | |
| There could be. | |
| Listen, I you know, I'm a former prosecutor myself. | |
| I've seen prosecutors overcharge, I've seen things get overlooked in in the idea of just kind of what you're saying, which is we just really want to get this guy. | |
| We think he deserves the worst, right? | |
| So Well, the AUSA's office typically doesn't miss. | |
| So again, I think they have something that we don't know about that shows that Thompson wasn't fair for his life, and this stalking charge might stick. | |
| Because they're not gonna just file a bullshit criminal complaint like that, um, if they know they can't win. | |
| So we'll see. | |
| I'm interested to see uh the indictment might might cover some more information. | |
| Um, but yeah. | |
| You know, sometimes they just hope that it goes overlooked. | |
| Sometimes they use that in order to uh initiate or or try to get a plea deal uh before a case gets dismissed or a charge gets dismissed. | |
| We have seen overcharging in the past, and look, those technicalities, you know, we are reading it very literally, but the bottom line is at the end of the day when a case goes to trial and a judge reads charges to a jury, they read them very literally, and everything has you know, everything has a definition to it. | |
| That being said, you know, we don't know everything, right? | |
| We know everything that's in the affidavit. | |
| Yeah, I mean some blueberries, guys. | |
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| Gotta get those um those micronutrients in, man. | |
| David, and that is what they're using to try to establish probable cause, but they always say, and they do say in this affidavit too, we're not telling you everything. | |
| Is it possible that they have some sort of evidence that could substantiate the stalking that we don't know about yet? | |
| Of course. | |
| There's always the possibility that they know more than we do. | |
| And by the way, just to be clear from a procedural point of view, this was a cr a federal criminal complaint. | |
| It still needs to go in front of a grand jury for him ultimately to be indicted, right? | |
| So a grand jury might look at this and agree with you. | |
| That's true. | |
| They might. | |
| Um if they're listening, you know, very specifically to the elements of the crime, and they're not presented with the requisite evidence to get them to where they need to be, then sure, they could choose not to indict. | |
| Of course, we also have to remember an indictment relies on a burden of proof that's much lower than a trial burner proof, which is beyond a reasonable doubt. | |
| And the defense doesn't really have an opportunity to put on a defense in front of a grand jury. | |
| Okay, I have a question about this. | |
| Let's say federal charges move forward. | |
| Okay, let's say that doesn't have this, you know, it meets this technical element. | |
| So according to CNN and more specifically ABC, uh, Daniel Philson, who is a spokesperson for the Manhattan District Attorney's Office of Alvin Bragg. | |
| This is the state prosecutors, not the federal. | |
| Uh, a statement was released that said the state case will proceed in parallel with any federal case. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Who goes first? | |
| Who prosecutes Man Gioni first? | |
| You know, that's a really difficult thing to do. | |
| And I don't know if it's a little bit premature to say that. | |
| You know, you don't want to step on anybody's toes. | |
| I would expect that the feds would have precedence here, that they would take the opportunity to move this case forward. | |
| Um if they're trying to say it's going to be parallel, that's fine, but there's a lot of people. | |
| Yeah, the feds are more than likely gonna push this thing through way fast in New York court, new New York the state case courts are almost notoriously fucking slow and unprofessional. | |
| Coordination that would need to happen here, and I would expect that the feds would not necessarily love for the state to move forward in tandem with them, because they want to be able to control their prosecution. | |
| You don't necessarily want certain things to come out too early. | |
| You don't want to tip your hat, you don't want to show your cards to the other side. | |
| And I think personally, if it were me, I would strategize that a bit differently. | |
| By the way, it's based on reporting that Karen Friedman Agnifilo, who's representing um a Mangioni in New York, um there's concerns that I think that she's expressed with what we're seeing that he was charged both with what many some, you know, people could agree with you that these federal charges don't fit. | |
| Some might people I've interviewed interviewed have suggested that the state charges, the murder terrorism charges are overly aggressive. | |
| But I think what she was suggesting was there's it's strange that he's being charged both on a state level and a federal level so quickly in tandem. | |
| Are there any double jeopardy concerns? | |
| I would definitely make that argument if I were his defense attorney. | |
| That's yeah, that's a good point. | |
| Um normally, you know, what ends up happening with cases like this, guys, is typically one side will drop their side their case and let the other one kind of push. | |
| Typically, as a state will drop their case and let the feds take it because the state almost always is inundated with cases. | |
| And, you know, they're like, dude, you know, the the typical prosecutor, guys, at the state level is holding like a hundred cases easily. | |
| And in New York City, I could only imagine how many cases. | |
| Keep in mind, guys, the state's doing everything. | |
| DUIs, domestic violence, uh loitering, they're doing every fucking case that comes through the city. | |
| So they're not gonna mind, you know, dropping a case like this a lot of the times. | |
| But since this case has such big news, um, you know, they're probably fighting for it, to be honest with you guys. | |
| That's why I'm what bet one of that the feds in the state are probably fighting for this case, to be honest with you guys. | |
| I mean, is it a good argument? | |
| I think it's a fair argument. | |
| I don't know that it wins the day. | |
| Um, but I do think, even just on a forget procedurally, just on a fairness and equity mindset, is it fair for somebody to be facing murder charges two times in two different kind of jurisdictions? | |
| It's it's New York, but it's federal and New York State for the same act and for the same crime of murder. | |
| Um I think that double jeopardy was created for the exact reason, meaning the idea that you can't be prosecuted twice for the same thing uh and be punished twice for the same thing was created for kind of this purpose. | |
| Just do it right. | |
| You know, get if he's the right one, prosecute him the right way. | |
| I do think you're you have the risk of turning off a jury or turning off, you know, regular civilians who are watching this, if you go overboard, you know. | |
| Well, well, the other the this the clear example would be if he was charged with murder at the state level and he is acquitted of murder at the state level, he can't be charged again with murder at the state level. | |
| There have been so many cases that we have covered where one instance, one event can be charged at both the state and federal level. | |
| And they're different charges. | |
| I mean, look at the uh look at the Derek Chauvin case, right? | |
| That's a guy for killing George Floyd. | |
| He was prosecuted both ways. | |
| And I mean, I think I think it would be tough to argue that. | |
| I think you can have an overlap. | |
| Um, but it's an argument that could be made. | |
| I just don't think it's necessarily would be a successful argument, but we'll see. | |
| Um, I do have a question, though. | |
| I want to go through some of the details uh of what this complaint says because we learned new information. | |
| Things that we didn't know before. | |
| So first, the complaint did confirm that multiple nine millimeter shell casings that were found on the ground at the crime scene had the words deny, delay, and depose written on them. | |
| Okay. | |
| And while the federal filing does confirm that Brian Thompson is the CEO of a health care company, it doesn't actually identify which, but we know that Brian Thompson had been a rising star within United Healthcare, working his way to the top spot in that company over the last 20 years. | |
| And it also lays out a timeline. | |
| Okay, so let's talk about this. | |
| November 24th, the shooter checks in, arrives in New York City at 1011 PM on a bus that originated from Atlanta, Georgia. | |
| The shooter stays in a hostel on the upper west side, registered at that hostel under the name Mark Rosario, provided or allegedly provided a fake New Jersey driver's license. | |
| According to the complaint, other than this interaction with the desk clerk, the shooter consistently kept his mask on throughout the city. | |
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| And as we know, a surveillance photo from inside the hostel shows the suspect smiling at the desk clerk. | |
| That was one of the key pieces of evidence in identifying and locating Mr. Manioni. | |
| Now it goes on to say that on the morning of December 4th, this is the day of the shooting. | |
| This FBI agent within this complaint says that Manioni left the hostel at around 5 35 a.m., rode an e-bike to the Hilton in midtown Manhattan. | |
| Once he got there, law enforcement says surveillance cameras show him walking around for a while, getting a drink and snack at a coffee shop. | |
| We know that to be the Starbucks, and then went to sit on a bench. | |
| And also it's confirmed that this shooter was depicted using a cell phone. | |
| We haven't got a ton of information about what he might have been looking at or doing on that cell phone. | |
| But from there, the complaint matches what NYPD was able to reveal from almost the beginning that the shooter steps out from between two parked cars, ignoring other bystanders, and shoots Thompson in the leg in the back. | |
| And documents say that he walked across the street to an alley where it's believed he stashed that e-bike. | |
| Police say that's where they found, by the way, the phone, as well as a water bottle, a snack wrapper in the alley as well, which they have purportedly linked back to Manioni through fingerprint analysis. | |
| The shooter rides the bike into Central Park, but when he was caught on camera leaving the park, he was no longer wearing that gray backpack that he had on him, and NYPD officers were finally able to find that backpack in the park. | |
| That's the one that had the uh monopoly money inside. | |
| Now, Man Gioni, again, if assuming he's the shooter, reportedly gets off the e-bike when he exits Central Park, takes a taxi to the George Washington Bridge bus terminal. | |
| That's where we get the now infamous photo of Manion wearing a face mask and hood sitting in the back of the taxi. | |
| And that is when authorities knew that he'd likely left the city as soon as possible, because he was seen on surveillance camera going into the bus terminal, but not coming out. | |
| December 9th, after evading capture for five days, the complaint says at approximately 9.14 A.M. a worker at a fast food restaurant in Altuna, Pennsylvania, aka the McDonald's, called the police about a male customer later identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangioni, the defendant, who the worker believed resembled photos of the shooter that had been that these that that uh McDonald's worker might not get the fucking award, which is crazy, bro. | |
| Broadcast in the media following the victim's murder. | |
| And then the complaint includes a photo of what police said Mancioni had in him on the time of his capture. | |
| Loaded nine millimeter pistol and silencer, again, consistent with the weapon used to kill uh Brian Thompson. | |
| And in addition to a gun and silencer, there was also found this so-called manifesto. | |
| So Manioni was apparently found with a notebook full of handwritten pages. | |
| And this complaint now gives us some new details. | |
| It reads the notebook contains several handwritten pages that expressed hostility towards the health insurance industry and wealthy executives in particular. | |
| For example, the notebook contained the following statements and entries that appear to correspond to particular dates. | |
| In an entry marked as 815, August 15th. | |
| The notebook described how the details are finally coming together, and I'm glad in a way that I've procrastinated because it allowed me to learn more about, and then it's an acronym for Company One. | |
| The notebook entry also stated that the target is insurance because it checks every box. | |
| Then you have an entry mark as 1022. | |
| The notebook stated one and a half months. | |
| This investor conference is a true windfall. | |
| And most importantly, the message becomes self-evident. | |
| Later on in the entry, the notebook describes an intent to whack the CEO of one of the insurance companies at its investor conference. | |
| And as described above, October 22nd, 2024, that was approximately six weeks before the date of the murder of the victim, which occurred on the date of Company One's investors' conference. | |
| And then it goes on to say the Fed's letter recovered from Mangione stated, I wasn't working with anyone. | |
| This was fairly trivial. | |
| Some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. | |
| Based on my own research, I believe that CAD refers to computer. | |
| Yeah, and that right there, bro. | |
| I you know, they got way more evidence, guys. | |
| Just remember that this is just what they have, like that they're putting in the complaint. | |
| They got way more shit. | |
| We haven't talked about the DNA, because remember, he left a water bottle there. | |
| They haven't talked about the phone. | |
| None of that stuff was mentioned in the criminal complaint. | |
| They have even more evidence. | |
| It did the aid of design. | |
| The Fed's letter also said. | |
| And I do think that there might have been another conspirator. | |
| Who the fuck was he talking to right before the murder? | |
| My own ATM withdrawal. | |
| And the fact that he went out of his way to say I did it myself also leads me to believe that there was another conspirator. | |
| So the FBI says that Manion had several thousand dollars in cash in him, by the way, when he was arrested in an envelope associated with a quote, an FDIC insured bank. | |
| But these alleged writings of Manion, the shooter, my gosh, if you're talking about this being pre-meditated and planned, I mean, I could see how this could be a gold mine for prosecutors. | |
| Yeah, I mean, the evidence that's found on him is quite damning. | |
| Uh the problem, I think, with some of the charges is that you can't just rely on the pre-meditation. | |
| And we mentioned this a little bit earlier. | |
| Even the state charge of murder in the first degree requires more than just premeditation. | |
| They're essentially saying that he had to have committed this act as an act of terrorism, which is, you know, that's that's a very rare charge to be charged, even as a murder one. | |
| Usually when somebody's charged with murder in the first degree in New York, it's because they killed a cop or you know, they killed a witness at trial, right? | |
| Um, but going back to the evidence, it's true. | |
| They're going to use that evidence and you know, things like the fake ID to connect him to the crime, to connect him to maybe a consciousness of guilt, and to try to establish the motive. | |
| I will tell you that out of every every charge he faces in terms of what's the most serious, and I hear your criticisms, and I think they're legitimate criticisms. | |
| Probably second degree murder, just an intent to kill that charge, the state charge is probably the one that fits this the most. | |
| And by the way, correct me if I'm wrong, Serena, what that carries 25 years to life in prison. | |
| It does. | |
| That's the legitimate charge, you know, assuming that it is Luigi, you know, all of that stuff has to be proven too. | |
| But you saw this timeline and surveillance footage. | |
| I have, but as a criminal defense attorney, you also have to make these arguments because the truth of the matter is. | |
| Yeah, but they're gonna go for murder one. | |
| They did lose him in the park for 13 minutes. | |
| You know, you gotta link up every single thing, and it is a circumstantial case. | |
| That being said, the evidence is No, they got so they they linked them with the DNA, bro. | |
| What are y'all talking about? | |
| They linked them with the DNA and the fingerprints. | |
| That's hardcore physical evidence. | |
| That puts them at the scene of the crime. | |
| Come on, guys. | |
| This is pretty long crap. | |
| Come on, guys. | |
| Come on. | |
| A lot of evidence is hard physical evidence. | |
| Come on, man. | |
| Damning at times. | |
| So there's an uphill battle there, but you're absolutely right. | |
| The the charge that fits this case is a state charge, murder in the second degree. | |
| And uh look, and he will fight the fingerprints, he will fight the ballistics. | |
| You know, the idea that the gun he had in him matched the shell casings at the scene that his fingerprints were found on these items found in the game. | |
| Well, that's gonna be hard. | |
| That's gonna be hard to fight too, because guys, remember, when a gun so when a gun is fired, right, and a bullet goes through the fucking barrel, what's up happening is it spins a certain way, and it creates um the grooves in the barrel create like almost like a signature on the bullet, okay? | |
| On the case on the shell casing. | |
| And what's up happening is that almost creates like a fingerprint for that gun. | |
| So if they're able to match that up, guys, that's pretty fucking definite. | |
| You know, uh definitive. | |
| So they got some hardcore uh physical evidence here. | |
| I I think these two uh they're undermining the strength of the evidence here. | |
| And again, the complaint doesn't list everything. | |
| They have more. | |
| Fingerprints matching. | |
| DNA is gonna match. | |
| If it doesn't already, if I'm not mistaken from the water bottle, they got the phone stuff. | |
| We don't know what they got the search warrant out of this guy, Thompson's house, which is maybe why they uh Thompson's hotel, excuse me, hotel room in New York. | |
| So that's might be why they might know about him start uh Man Joni stalking him. | |
| So we'll see. | |
| Time will tell. | |
| But the cops know way more than we than we know. | |
| I'll tell y'all that. | |
| Prime scene. | |
| Challenge the and then also we got the phone information too. | |
| They exploded that phone as well. | |
| Uh the the legitimacy of that surveillance footage. | |
| Is it really him? | |
| I get it. | |
| I do have a question for you before I let you go. | |
| So as we know, he's being reported. | |
| It's been reported that Karen Freedman Agnifilo is representing Manionia in New York. | |
| But now, since perhaps this has become what a federal case, there are outlets that have reported, like the Daily Beast and CNN, that her husband, New York Federal Criminal Defense Attorney Mark Agnifilo, the man currently representing Sean Diddy Combs in his federal criminal case in the Southern District of New York. | |
| He's jumped on board too. | |
| I mean, I saw it first when I heard this. | |
| Now look, he's married to her. | |
| Maybe he's just accompanying her to federal court, but he is a federal criminal defense attorney. | |
| And if this reporting is true, would it be strange that he would take Manioni on as a client too? | |
| No, it wouldn't be strange at all. | |
| I myself am married to a federal criminal defense attorney. | |
| So all I exactly. | |
| And look, you need a team for this defense. | |
| That is for sure the case, and you need a talented team. | |
| And I do think I actually don't think it would be smart to go at this completely so low, no matter who you are. | |
| This is gripping the nation, as as you would say, right? | |
| This is the biggest case that we've seen in a very long time. | |
| The stakes are the highest they could ever be with the death penalty now on the table. | |
| You can't just have potentially correct. | |
| Yes. | |
| You cannot just have anybody represent you. | |
| And this is gonna require an all-hands on deck, multiple attorney team, in my opinion. | |
| And I'll just leave it with this. | |
| Uh, after court, Karen Freeman Agnifilo told reporters, we're gonna respectfully decline to make any comment at this time. | |
| Mr. Manioni appreciates everyone's support. | |
| Serena Townsend, thanks so much for coming on. | |
| I appreciate you taking the time. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Well, and everybody, that's all we have for you right now. | |
| So, crazy case, guys. | |
| Crazy case. | |
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| I'll tell y'all this. | |
| If I get remonetized, I'll do both. | |
| I'll do, I'll do, I'll go back to what I used to do. | |
| I used to do Thursday Fed Reacts and Sunday Fed Reacts is what I used to do. | |
| Which I might do that. | |
| If uh speaking of which, let me go ahead and uh look here. | |
| okay making sure i don't miss any of you guys on uh castle club or anything like that Damn. | |
| looks like friday is uh edging it out Shout out to Rob G, talking shit in the chat. | |
| Not sure why you're here if you're talking shit. | |
| I'll never understand that. | |
| Shout out to Night Star. | |
| Five bucks says um Feder reacts on Fridays, clam chatter on Sundays. | |
| Oh man. | |
| Here on the case. | |
| actually something interesting came out with man gioni uh his mom Let's see. | |
| They handed this hot off the presses as I came in the studio. | |
| There is a federal indictment now, a sealed complaint. | |
| Well, unsealed complaint. | |
| There are four charges in federal court, two charges. | |
| How does all of this work though? | |
| Because we have those state charges already. | |
| He was flown from Pennsylvania to New York just today. | |
| We can talk about extradition in a minute. | |
| But we already have those state charges. | |
| So what takes precedence here? | |
| Right. | |
| Well, you so actually I it's usually sort of decided by the prosecutors. | |
| Um the federal prosecutors and the state prosecutors, they're gonna talk to each other. | |
| I mean, they're not each doing this in a vacuum. | |
| So the federal complaint, the thing that's different about a federal complaint from a state complaint is in the federal system, there's actually a possibility of a death penalty in the federal state. | |
| Which isn't true under New York state law. | |
| The state law, New York State doesn't have the death penalty, and so life in prison without parole was the maximum penalty under the state charges. | |
| The other thing that's different is it might make a difference as to where he's gonna be housed. | |
| We talked about some of this. | |
| Sure, typically. | |
| Typically, the prosecutors, especially when you're talking about the federal prosecutors in the Southern District. | |
| All right, let's go back. | |
| We talked about that already, covered y'all. | |
| Let's see God's mom twisted up onto this. | |
| Well of doing something like this. | |
| Well, NYPD chief of detectives Joseph Kenny was asked about this at a news conference the other day when the indictment of Mangione was announced. | |
| Listen to what he had to say. | |
| So the the original missing report took place back in November 18th in San Francisco. | |
| The sergeant that was involved in that case reached out to the San Francisco field office and said, hey, basically, uh, I'm working on a missing case. | |
| I saw a photograph that was distributed by the NYPD. | |
| There's that bears a resemblance. | |
| That tip was forwarded to us. | |
| Close to 45. | |
| Remember, uh, for those of you that don't know, his mom reported him missing back in like July. | |
| Um because he kind of went off the grid. | |
| So um 891 likes, by the way, guys. | |
| Let's hit 1,000. | |
| 100 away, ninjas. | |
| Like the goddamn video. | |
| Five hours after the incident took place. | |
| If we've uh it showed up to a TFL, which is a task force officer. | |
| We have MYPD officers embedded with the FBI. | |
| They received that tip. | |
| It was one of four tips that they received that day, and they were vetting it. | |
| Part of that vetting process was that they reached out Mangione's mother in San Francisco very late on the 7th. | |
| They had a conversation where she didn't indicate that it was her son in the photograph, but she said it might be something that she could see him doing. | |
| So that information was going to be passed along to the detectives the next morning, but fortunately we apprehended before that we could act on that. | |
| So why would that be the case? | |
| Right? | |
| If she really said that, why? | |
| And remember, a friend of Man Gioni, Aaron Cranston, revealed to the New York Times that he received a message indicating that Man Gione's family was looking for him. | |
| We know there was reporting that Manioni was becoming more and more isolated, potentially more extreme online. | |
| He had this online activity seemed to reveal these odd ideological leanings. | |
| Particularly, I've cited this before, this Goodreads review from earlier this year of the manifesto of the Unabomber. | |
| Ted Kaczynski, at which Man Gioni apparently gave a book a four-star rating. | |
| Now, Man Gioni's cousin, Nino Man Gione issued a statement on behalf of the family and made it clear that they didn't know anything prior to the news of his arrest. | |
| It said, we cannot comment on news reports regarding Luigi Mangioni. | |
| We only know what we've read in the media. | |
| Our family is shocked and devastated by Luigi's arrest. | |
| We offer our prayers to the family of Brian Thompson, and we ask people to pray for all involved. | |
| But I gotta get some perspective on this. | |
| So let me bring back on friend of the show, former homicide prosecutor Matt Murphy. | |
| Matt, good to see you. | |
| Thanks much for coming on. | |
| So before we even get into the mother, like five minutes before we came on, we found out that Luigi Mancioni in Pennsylvania has waived his extradition, which means now he is gonna be transported immediately back to New York. | |
| You surprised? | |
| No, I'm not surprised. | |
| Um this is something you see all the time in murder cases, where somebody will either flew to another state or they'll be in from another state when they commit the murder, and extraditing somebody from another state in America is actually really easy to do. | |
| They're entitled to process, but you're gonna get them a hundred percent of the time. | |
| So his lawyers, he's got a very capable defense team here. | |
| They knew that, and they they made the decision to just get this case up to New York where it's ultimately gonna be no matter what. | |
| Like don't waste the time. | |
| Yeah, because uh because the Pennsylvania charges were kind of like, yeah, it was like one or two felonies, but fake ID, gun charge, or whatever. | |
| Like in New York, clearly, uh, you know, they want a more, they got a bigger case. | |
| You know, they don't want to deal with the uh aggressive New York prosecutors calling them every day. | |
| So they're like, you know what, man, fuck that shit, bro. | |
| Just send them up there. | |
| So, you know, it is what it is. | |
| Also, with that said, guys, uh, we're a 924, guys, so let's get to uh we're only 70 likes away, man. | |
| 70 likes away for 1,000. | |
| Let's go. | |
| Let's hit that 1,000 k 1,000 likes. | |
| I mean the resources of trying to fight this, like illegal expense of fighting it. | |
| You know, you're gonna lose. | |
| You're gonna lose extraction. | |
| You're gonna lose that tradition. | |
| Yeah, right. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, so now I want to talk about this issue with the mother, because what do you make of that statement? | |
| Well, I think that number one, it's important for everybody to remember that the family here is not at fault. | |
| Okay, the family was cooperative with law enforcement. | |
| The family also I read some things that they'd actually submitted a missing persons report with San Francisco when they're trying to find him towards the end of the summer. | |
| So I I think his mom lives in San Fran, chat. | |
| That um this is one of those things that even though he's from Maryland. | |
| That's obviously very significant from an investigative perspective. | |
| But the question is, do they need that at this point? | |
| And uh I I think based on this evidence, the answer to that is no. | |
| You get a three-page manifesto that is a statement of intent that's already in there. | |
| Right, you know, uh, I think that Alvin Bragg won't be prosecuting this case. | |
| Uh chat says, good question here. | |
| He goes, uh Mark Hughes says, Are you gonna do Fed reacts on the girls uh school shooter? | |
| Yeah, I probably will. | |
| I probably will. | |
| Maybe next week. | |
| That whoever he has is gonna be capable, and this will be the type of thing that I don't think we're gonna see too many family members on the stand. | |
| Do you think though they're being interviewed? | |
| Oh, yeah, for sure. | |
| Yeah. | |
| The family has already done it. | |
| For what information? | |
| What do you think? | |
| For for for motive for plans for schemes, who else might he have been mad at? | |
| Is are there any other murders? | |
| They're gonna cross every T and dot every I in this investigation, and that's gonna include interviewing the family, who, based on everything that I've reviewed, appears to be totally cooperative and doing everything right. | |
| And I know when she was speaking, we we mentioned this when she was speaking to law enforcement, she couldn't official like uh a hundred percent confirm that that was her son. | |
| And by the way, I think there's gonna be maybe a separate argument. | |
| You look at the surveillance photos. | |
| Some people look and be like, yeah, it looks like him, and there's other like, I'm not entirely sure. | |
| So I think that's kind of understandable. | |
| Um, but then again, it was those photos what's 60 more likes, guys. | |
| We're at 943. | |
| Led to his identification as arrest in Altoona, Pennsylvania. | |
| I thought that was significant that that it was reported that that happened. | |
| Look, I hate to ask this question, but I have to ask this question. | |
| We live in a day and age where separate st separate scenarios, but when we deal with school shootings, right, these are people who are underage, you ask what are the parents know? | |
| Was it foreseeable? | |
| Should they be held liable? | |
| Obviously, he he's an adult male. | |
| But if there was evidence, and again, there is no evidence to suggest this whatsoever, but that statement just made me wonder. | |
| If there was evidence that they knew he maybe was capable of something, maybe they didn't know that he was gonna do something like this. | |
| They couldn't be held liable, right? | |
| They couldn't be held liable on a civil side or even a criminal side. | |
| Well, on the criminal side, they certainly couldn't. | |
| There's no there's no obligation to any state to take affirmative action to prevent a crime. | |
| Okay. | |
| If they help in some way, or if they facilitate aid a better or encourage, that's a different story than they could, but we have no evidence of that. | |
| And based on everything that I've read about the family, everything that they've they that they've said publicly or the representatives have, I I doubt there's gonna be anything along those lines that we're gonna see. | |
| I think this is a this is a young guy who got his head twisted up onto this, and he had this this zeal against corporate America and the healthcare specifically. | |
| One of the interesting things, Jesse, that I think in that manifesto is he said these parasites, plural. | |
| Yes. | |
| And and you know, there's been I've seen some crazy conspiracy. | |
| My man called the parasites. | |
| Oh man. | |
| See stuff online, which by the way, it's like this is what happens in murder cases. | |
| I've had murder cases where there's been backpacks with a cornucopia of 962, guys, 40 more likes. | |
| Let's cook. | |
| Let's hit 1,000. | |
| We got fresh it for that to this. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm gonna be doing it solo. | |
| Just me. | |
| All right. | |
| So it's gonna be me, ninjas. | |
| So like the goddamn video. | |
| We have a long night tonight, my friends. | |
| You guys are gonna be riding a night train with me. | |
| It's gonna be a good time. | |
| So like the goddamn video, because I got a flight tomorrow morning at like seven, gonna go out to Arizona, gonna be out there, rubbing some elbows with some individuals, me and some people, shit like that. | |
| So, the grind doesn't end, guys. | |
| Like the video. | |
| Evidence like we see in this. | |
| So this really is the way these things work a lot of times. | |
| Um they get if they plan it out, they get very good at figuring out how to get away from the murder scene and not so good about getting away with the murder, Because this appears to be his first crime. | |
| Um but you know, parasites plural is interesting, and and that that may go a long way to explain why he still had this weapon, why he still had this fake IDs and why they hadn't caught him yet. | |
| You mean targeting potentially other people? | |
| Very well might be. | |
| And what one of the I mean, look, one of the things that everybody's been talking about in this case that I think is very interesting is the reaction on social media. | |
| He's a handsome young guy, and we see people saying, you know, uh violence is bad, but we've seen uh officials like Elizabeth Warren came out and said something like that. | |
| Bernie Sanders said something like that. | |
| This professor at Penn said she was proud to be a University of Penn professor because of what he did. | |
| And look, murder is murder. | |
| That's crazy, bro. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| But I will tell you guys this. | |
| As someone that went to uh prestigious school, they're a little loony on the left, bro. | |
| They're loony over there, man. | |
| They're fucking crazy, man. | |
| And UPenn is no different. | |
| These are these schools, radically left. | |
| All of them. | |
| There's no murder's bad but. | |
| You know, that's like a domestic violence case where some man kills his wife. | |
| You know, we don't in the in the courtroom engage in a big, well, what did she do to deserve it? | |
| Did she say something like did was she cheating on him? | |
| Like that's not that's not what it's about. | |
| It's murder is murder, murder is bad, and this this whole thing where people are trying to take advantage of it, and is exactly the purpose of terrorism in in the state of New York. | |
| It's about trying to influence public policy. | |
| I was gonna ask you about that. | |
| Look, I've been screaming on the rooftop so that I think it's insane that people are praising this, but or seemingly supporting it. | |
| But uh but let me ask you this the terrorism charges, right? | |
| Some would say, you know, I can I get that, right? | |
| You know, it's if it's done to send a message, if it's done to change uh policy, if it's done to, you know, it's done in the middle of the streets of New York City, it was done to terrorists. | |
| So this is the language uh what you would need to trigger the uh terrorism component. | |
| The defendant with the intended cause. | |
| Yeah, and we got fifty-five percent for Sunday on Fed React Stam versus 45% on Sunday. | |
| Fifty-five on Friday, 45% on Sunday. | |
| Damn. | |
| All right, I'm gonna have to rethink some shit. | |
| The death of another person caused the death of Brian Thompson and said person was killed in furtherance of an act of terrorism involving a violent act and acts dangerous to human life that were in violation of the criminal laws of this state. | |
| And were intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, influence the policies of a unit of government by intimidation or coercion, and affect the conduct of a unit of government by murder, assassination, or kidnapping. | |
| How does it fit here? | |
| Well, I think it fits broadly. | |
| The DS office is gonna argue that this is an attempt to influence public policy. | |
| This is an attempt to influence government policy towards health care and or the health care corporations themselves. | |
| So that's where the argument's gonna come from. | |
| That this was this man was murdered because of the way health care operates in the United States, and this is an attempt to influence public policy. | |
| That's gonna be the argument that's coming their way down. | |
| This is it's an interesting thing, right? | |
| Because what the defense is gonna argue here is they're gonna say, yeah, he he hated him because of that, but he wasn't actually trying to take that additional step and and impact policy. | |
| Now, I've only seen part of the manifesto. | |
| 988, guys, almost to 1,000. | |
| Let's go. | |
| So can I can I read you a few of the things? | |
| Yeah, can I read a few statements? | |
| Yeah. | |
| And you so keep that in mind. | |
| I'm just gonna read you a few statements from this is so it was not only the manifesto, but it was also these this notebook that was found as well. | |
| To the feds, I'll keep this short because I do respect what you do for our country. | |
| To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. | |
| I do apologize for any strife of traumas, but it had to be done. | |
| Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. | |
| And regarding United Healthcare, the writer talked about how it's grown and grown. | |
| We got a thing here from uh Punisher Gotcha says, um uh Debbie Martin, have you had any time uh have you had time to do any research yet on the drones and orbs? | |
| I want to hear your take on what's happening worldwide. | |
| That's from Punisher Gotcha. | |
| I haven't um, but I can. | |
| Uh Fleury says, these ninjas gonna be at the club on Friday nights, spending money on 304's center of stream, stick to Sunday. | |
| Okay. | |
| Own but has our life expectancy? | |
| No, the reality is these have simply gotten too powerful and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit. | |
| And according to CNN and ABC, there was also a passage about not using a bomb because that would kill too many innocents and how the shooting would be more targeted. | |
| And also there was a statement what do you do? | |
| You whack the CEO at the annual parasitic bean counter convention. | |
| By the way, that goes into the idea of knowing where the target was going to be. | |
| But those writings, do you think A will be used to support this terrorism charge and uh is it enough? | |
| Well, the manifesto in its entirety is certainly gonna come into evidence. | |
| And it's a statement of intent, also known as motive, right? | |
| So absolutely they're gonna be used. | |
| Whether it's enough, we'll see. | |
| Um if I was prosecuting this case, I would absolutely have charged first to be murdered and I would absolutely go forward with this terrorism count. | |
| You know, the people that you see the impact of it because now it is. | |
| We hit 1000. | |
| Shout out to you ninjas. | |
| Don't do my go. | |
| Appreciate it, guys. | |
| We're gonna be wrapping this thing up soon because I got the Fed Reacts where we're gonna go very soon. | |
| Does that come into evidence? | |
| The reaction, the public reaction. | |
| I don't know because you don't know if like did he expect that? | |
| Did he expect to be a folk hero? | |
| The reac he I think he wanted to be a folk hero. | |
| I think that he I I think that he's he is over the moon right now. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| They made signs and everything. | |
| Free Luigi. | |
| Now that so many people are coming in supporting him because it shows that he's has had the exact impact that he wants. | |
| Probably we're not going to see the social media response introduced against him. | |
| Where that's going to come out is during the selection of the jury, there are gonna be questionnaires and they're gonna have to weed out people that are sympathetic to this. | |
| And that's gonna be that's the same thing. | |
| Yeah, they are. | |
| I get why they went in first degree. | |
| The reason in New York, it wasn't just automatic to charge first degree murders, because New York is very specific. | |
| It's not just premeditated murder. | |
| It's specific categories in order for a first degree to actually be triggered. | |
| That's why you see a lot of m c cases. | |
| You're like, why is that second degree? | |
| It's because that's really the only way it fits. | |
| First degree, yes, there's terrorism. | |
| Other times it's if you kill a police officer, um I think it's killings that are done, maybe uh, I think in a prison, things like that. | |
| Which is a great point. | |
| And as lawyers, and then and people who watch Law and Crime Network, I think they can appreciate it. | |
| In California, first of all murder is any murder committed with premeditation deliberation, or any of these special circumstances would make it. | |
| Like it like a murder committed during a rape, a kidnapping, a child molest, a bank robbery, all of those could make it felony murder or first degree murder. | |
| Here, uh first degree murder is essentially what we would call a special circuit murder in California. | |
| It's murder committed of a judge, murder committed of a police officer, in in a prison, like you said. | |
| And on that list, there is terrorism. | |
| And terrorism is defined by like what you already quoted. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I I want to go back to the and this where we were talking about with the mother, right? | |
| So we we've talked about the writings, we've talked about things that are uh online, we've talked about the crime. | |
| For her to allegedly make a statement that she thinks this is something he might be capable of, I'm paraphrasing. | |
| It would seem to suggest that she knew some of this. | |
| And the question becomes how did she know this? | |
| When did she know this? | |
| I think these are fair questions. | |
| Um that press conference, it stood out to me. | |
| It stood out to a lot of people. | |
| I think that's why you're seeing so many articles about this mother's statement. | |
| Um do you think we'll get those answers and will they be explored at a trial? | |
| Well, I think the police will certainly get those answers. | |
| Whether that's ever made public or whether it's ever admitted in a trial, really is a it's a second question. | |
| I think if they get something really good, they would probably want to introduce that. | |
| I mean, imagine how many rants this family has had to listen to. | |
| And it's speculative by us at this point. | |
| Of course, he's presumed innocent. | |
| But imagine this guy last Thanksgiving, you know, sitting around the table talking about his political beliefs. | |
| You know, we all have some friend that's goddamn insurance companies. | |
| God damn, they pissed me off. | |
| Out there on the on the far left or the far right, that rants and rants and rants, and then all of a sudden if you see somebody that looks like them consistently with one of those rants, you could see a statement like the mom saying, Hey, look, I I'm shocked the family's devastated, but I could see him doing something like that. | |
| I mean, I think that's the context we're talking about. | |
| And one other thing I'll say about the family, and I don't know the family at all. | |
| But just putting a realistic component, the law enforcement's reaching out to you uh about a suspected shooter that murdered a uh health insurance CEO. | |
| You might be so frantic, you don't even know what you're saying. | |
| I think that's fair too. | |
| Like, you know, you're being confronted with the idea that your son might be now the most wanted man in the United States. | |
| He was the most wanted man, and the f the FBI put 50K up. | |
| I think we have to be careful of uh just taking everything at face value. | |
| There's no doubt. | |
| And also, look, they this is a guy who apparently went off the rails. | |
| He stopped communicating with his friends and family several months ago. | |
| So she's been worried the family did made that missing persons report in San Francisco. | |
| So they're they've probably been increasingly concerned about uh his mental health, the direction that he's been moving in. | |
| And so uh look my heart kind of goes out to them a little bit. | |
| You know, this is um this is devastating for them. | |
| But but I I have to say, for 17 years in the homicide unit, I I spent a lot of time dealing with victims of murder. | |
| And the first thing I would do after filing charges always was sit down with the family and kind of introduce my team and and let them know that there are people that actually cared. | |
| What this man's family is going through, the victim in this case. | |
| Ryan Thompson, yeah. | |
| Is absolutely the worst thing a family can experience. | |
| And for all of those like Elizabeth Warren or like that pan professor who who wanna who want to use this as a way of advancing their own political agenda. | |
| Look, they're condoning murder. | |
| When you start talking about, well, murder's bad or violence is bad, but what this family is going through is the worst of the worst. | |
| And I think everybody needs to take a deep breath before they look at a guy who looks handsome and says, oh, I'd have quit him if I was on the jury. | |
| No, you wouldn't, actually. | |
| If you follow the law, you wouldn't do that. | |
| Or any any rational, decent human being would not do that. | |
| And it's a conflating of an anger towards the health insurance industry, but saying this is somehow understandable, this is somehow justified. | |
| Um and I think that's really dangerous, not only for this, um, but also where does it end. | |
| Well, because that's on the list. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And if we could get a list from those people, maybe He could have killed some other people, man. | |
| He w it looked like he was uh he didn't have planned ahead too well to escape properly, but who knows what he would have done if he had more time. | |
| They would just be the ones that have to increase their security, and you and I wouldn't have to pay so much more for health care, because that's the great irony, right? | |
| I I mean I pay for my own health care and it's expensive, and I just know it's gonna go up because now the CEO of of my health care company is gonna get twenty four hours of security because of this. | |
| So the the the ironic upshot is health care is about to get more expensive. | |
| It's vastly complex. | |
| The person who hadn't had it figured out, I guarantee is Luigi Magioni or this pen professor. | |
| You know, it's vastly complex. | |
| And you're exactly right. | |
| Like we can't mitigate murder, especially cold blooded planned murder like this, because the person had a reason. | |
| The person who commits murder always has a reason to do it. | |
| They always 100% of the time, there's a reason to kill another human being. | |
| But if it's a good reason, we don't call it murder anymore. | |
| You call it self-defense, you call it maybe a manslaughter. | |
| There is no path to mitigate this case into a manslaughter. | |
| There's there's no way to get there. | |
| There's they they may argue mental illness, I'm sure they will. | |
| But you know, when you start doing that, it is such a slippery slope. | |
| And how many other people are on that list? | |
| Because everybody has a reason when they commit a murder. | |
| And it's like, well, what did the wife do? | |
| Well, was the neighbor really obnoxious when he was playing his music together at the party? | |
| Like you can't do that. | |
| Murder is murder, wrong is wrong. | |
| And factors in mitigation is something that gets considered by a jury under some circumstances or a judge. | |
| You know, and I don't see it here. | |
| By the way, just to give a second perspective on this before we wrap it up, we did a whole episode yesterday on Sidebar about Brian Thompson, and people might not realize this, but portraying him as the villain of the story is not only inappropriate, but it's inaccurate if If you look at the way he what he was trying to do before his death about changing the perspective on United Healthcare and uh the views of health insurance, I think it's something I encourage everybody to check out. | |
| Look, I don't know him fully. | |
| United Healthcare had a ton of problems because we actually did an episode on that as well, like in that. | |
| Oh yeah, there was a video that they posted. | |
| But um, okay, guys. | |
| So I am going to be back in about 10-15 minutes for fresh and fit. | |
| I'm gonna end the stream here for Fed Reacts. | |
| Hope you guys enjoyed the show. | |
| Timestamps will be up. | |
| Um like the video. | |
| We got we hit 1,000, but if we can help 1100 on the way out, I'd really appreciate that if you guys really could. | |
| So stop what you're doing. | |
| Like the video helps with the engagement a lot, helps other people find this content, especially with the true crime stuff. | |
| We went through the complaint in detail. | |
| What I predict next is gonna be indicted more than likely, guys, in the Southern District of New York. | |
| Um and uh federal case is gonna begin. | |
| Um I think more than likely they're gonna defer this case to the feds. | |
| The state, man, they got their little perp walk. | |
| You know, there's probably some type of agreement. | |
| Look, you guys can be go ahead and put your case, but we get to perp walk them. | |
| That's what I think probably happened here. | |
| Right? | |
| I think NYPD just wanted to do the perp walk. | |
| That's their main thing. | |
| Got their perp walk, and the case more than likely gonna go federal, is what I think. | |
| That's what I predict. | |
| So um, yeah. | |
| So guys, uh let me hear. | |
| Let me get here. | |
| Let me see here if I got any other chats before we close this thing out. | |
| Uh going for almost two hours. | |
| Shit. | |
| Love y'all ninjas, man. | |
| Uh all right. | |
| So yeah, okay. | |
| Guys, I'm gonna be back with some fresh and fit. | |
| We're gonna do uh do uh do a night train. | |
| Love y'all ninjas. | |
| Peace. | |
| Be back here in about I'm gonna go live probably around 7.15. | |
| 715 our fresh and fit. | |
| Go to Fresh Fit now, like the video before you do, right? | |
| Go to Fresh and Fit. | |
| Event's gonna be made. | |
| We're gonna go live here in a little bit. | |
| Love y'all ninjas. |
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