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Sept. 20, 2024 - MyronGainesX

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Fed Reacts To Diddy Arrest Footage LEAK With Akademiks

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	Grand a night, you get what I'm saying?
	Um, however, so we have that to discuss, but he's incarcerated.
	And after being incarcerated, we figured he'd be having some type of protective custody or whatever.
	But then the news comes out that he's on suicide watch.
	From your experience in law enforcement and dealing with, you know, you know, many people who you've helped done the investigation to get arrested.
	Um, what does that mean to you?
	So, um, and that's actually one of the main reasons I want to jump on you.
	I actually have a source.
	No, pause.
	No, did he?
	Yeah, I actually have a source.
	Pause.
	I actually have a source that works that.
	So, one of my good friends that I work with on the border, he used to work for the U.S. Bureau of Prisons, right?
	Who's responsible for the jailing of federal inmates?
	And his buddy works at that detention center in Brooklyn.
	And he told them that Diddy actually isn't on Suicide Watch.
	They're just watching him very closely and making sure that he's segregated, et cetera, because he's obviously a celebrity, et cetera.
	But he's not necessarily on Suicide Watch.
	He's more in like protective custody.
	Okay.
	And by the way, this wouldn't be voluntarily, right?
	Like, you know, I don't think he gets the choice.
	You know, this guy, if anything happens to him, by the way, I've looked up MDC.
	It's been known, like just in July, footage came out of an MS-13 gang member stabbing somebody 44 times in Brooklyn, MDC before one correctional officer intervened, right?
	This looks like some type of general area.
	You know, obviously, I'm not saying Diddy's the most hated person, but people could be in there trying to make a name.
	You know, you never had for, you know, the federal government and even New York City itself.
	Do you think it's voluntary that he's in this state or no?
	No, completely involuntary.
	You know, they understand that a high-profile case like this puts them on the hook.
	And obviously, if something like Epstein happens again, it's going to lose an enormous amount of public trust.
	So they're going to do everything in their power to keep him safe and not have not have another Epstein situation because that gave the federal government a very big black eye.
	So they're going to keep him in protective custody.
	No bunk mates.
	They're going to be watching him on camera, et cetera.
	And yeah, you're right.
	MDC Brooklyn is one of the worst jails in the United States by far because the thing is, is that it's like an intermediary prison, right?
	So like while you're fighting your case, that's where you stay, right?
	It's not like a real, you know, prison where you're going.
	That's kind of like an intermediary lockup.
	And there's like, you know, well over a thousand guys in there.
	So definitely involuntary just on who he is.
	And if anything happens to him, it would really look bad on them, especially after the Epstein situation.
	Speaking about Epstein or Epstein, I don't know how you say his name, but speaking about that situation where it was said and announced that he committed suicide, even though he was supposedly on watch, right?
	I'm wondering, like, especially what would be protocol afterwards.
	I don't know if you would know, or maybe like your friend who's probably worked at these institutions would know, because I would imagine after the Epstein situation, anybody who's super high profile, who comes in here, who is facing a charge that carries life, we're immediately starting to do like, you know, some psychology tests or some, you know, evaluations of you to see where your mindset's at that we could properly assess the situation, right?
	Like some people might be able to put up fine with that.
	You know what I mean?
	Who knows?
	Maybe El Chapo's like, yo, little Chapito is coming in like three months to get me out of here.
	So I'm cool.
	Or three years or 30 years.
	Or he's just used to that type of lifestyle, knew he was going to go to jail eventually.
	Who knows?
	Versus Diddy's like, this is like beyond hell, right?
	You know what I mean?
	So mentally, he might not be able to cope as well as somebody else.
	Do you think they do like these mental evaluations on intake?
	Or maybe they're like, man, tough it out.
	Yeah, for something like this where it's kind of like pre-trial detention, not really.
	Their job is to kind of hold the body while the guy is pending his case.
	That's kind of their job.
	So they're going to do the bare minimum required.
	You know what I'm saying?
	To keep him, keep him safe and do what they got to do.
	But obviously with someone like him, they're going to be a bit more careful just because of how big he is.
	Yeah.
	So, and you know what I said about that too?
	I said, when I see the news that he's on suicide watch, I said, that's a very sexy headline, but I'm, but it also fools the public to think that Diddy might be expressing signs of suicide, which, you know, again, I don't know what he's feeling or how he's acting at the moment, but I feel like that was more of a media thing.
	And the media right now is going to grab at everything and trump it up like, yo, suicide watch.
	It immediately makes us think Epstein and other things.
	Well, maybe it's just protocol.
	And I'm glad this lawyer kind of like, you know, is trying to clarify it.
	Yeah.
	I do want to play the video of him being taken into custody.
	Yeah, go for it, brother.
	Compared to the raid, it was very subtle.
	It's not heavy.
	That's exactly like how I told you it would be, right?
	Yeah.
	Didn't I tell you it was exactly how I told you it would be?
	Yeah.
	No, no, no, no, no, you're absolutely right.
	Chat, if you guys haven't seen the video that's on the front page of TMZ, it appears, by the way, I've talked to several people who were with Diddy as he was strolling down Manhattan and going to various places.
	Looks like as soon as he got back into his hotel, they quickly just separated him from the group of people he was with.
	And they actually did this in a very, it wasn't like, hey, put your hands up, like slam him, none of that.
	I'll play the video if you guys haven't seen it real quick.
	It's a minute long.
	Diddy walks in with his people.
	Ooh, and quickly, I think these are federal agents.
	They step immediately.
	It's like they probably had somebody flanking them behind because they knew exactly when it was coming in.
	Yeah, they were watching him.
	No hesitation.
	They separate him.
	They separate him from everyone else.
	By the way, they're not wearing uniforms.
	It looks like someone has a badge or something, but they're not wearing uniforms that say like police or whatever.
	Don't even have to see a jacket.
	They walk with him alone.
	His people smartly don't follow and stay back.
	Yep.
	And I'm surprised there's only two agents.
	Like, you know, Diddy was rolling around with an entourage of like 20 people.
	And it appears that they're joined by another officer.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	All these guys now.
	All these guys are HSI special agents and task force officers.
	Oh, wow.
	It's a lot of them now.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And now they're bringing Diddy out.
	And it appears that, oh, yeah, his hand is behind his back.
	Yep.
	His hand is behind his back.
	And look like they stop him in that little area to probably like clear the walkway and make sure, you know, they're probably trying to still keep it discreet, even though, you know, it's an arrest and his arrest.
	And they're making sure the car is up front or whatever the wagon they're going to put him in.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	They're holding him.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then they bring him out.
	Wow.
	Yep.
	Crazy stuff, man.
	Yeah.
	And this is him.
	This is him being walked.
	Yeah.
	Walked.
	Look like quickly to a vehicle that's awaiting.
	We don't know what vehicle if it's marked or unmarked, but I'm guessing by how they pulled up, probably unmarked, right?
	Yeah.
	100%.
	They're always unmarked.
	You've done these type of things.
	Obviously, you know, you've worked a lot in the southern border.
	But generally, what would happen before this happened, around the time of this happened, keep in mind there's multiple videos of like 20 minutes before.
	He's walking around taking pictures.
	Apparently, he was even in Central Park earlier that day.
	What do you think was happening the entire day?
	From the agent's perspective?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	So, okay, I'll take you through.
	So, what more than likely happened was they had eyes on him.
	They were watching the whole time.
	And they said, okay, when's the most opportune time to get this guy?
	They probably wanted to pick him up in a way where there weren't going to be a lot of people around them besides, you know, obviously his entourage.
	And as you can see, they did it pretty respectfully, right?
	They went ahead, just like I had predicted, and arrested him in a fashion where it wouldn't cause great public embarrassment.
	You know, I'm sure TMZ had to work their asses off to get this footage.
	You know, they just probably didn't furnish it to them, et cetera.
	So when you pick somebody up like this, right, you want to pick them up in a way where it's cooperative, it's respectful.
	You don't want to embarrass them.
	And the reason for that is because you want this guy to cooperate.
	So you understand, you know, you get more bees with honey than vinegar.
	So that's why they went with that softer approach.
	Because at the end of the day, they wanted this is a conspiracy case.
	Keep in mind, this is a racketeering case.
	Racketeering means that there's always going to be other conspirators involved.
	So they want his cooperation to get anyone else.
	And that's why I'm pretty confident that they went this route.
	It felt like they try to save his dignity to some extent.
	And we've seen a lot of times in New York City, like, for example, these are more local cases.
	But if anyone knows, and by the way, I give a shout out to Lisa Everett.
	She's one of the most amazing people in terms of, you know, diligently working on news.
	She's a news reporter, but also in hip-hop as well.
	She's covered these joints that usually the police will give her a ride along to the bust.
	And there's a lot of cameras.
	They just busted something called Slattery Gang.
	And the purp walk is crazy.
	There's mad cameras out there.
	They're letting the press know, like, yo, we're getting these guys.
	You're going to come watch us while we parade them out of the precinct to the Holden area.
	It's almost set up for the media.
	Here, it looks like he was super discreet.
	They didn't rob him of his dignity.
	Is that always the case federally?
	Yeah, the feds are way more fucking professional when it comes to arrests.
	And I'm not just saying this because I'm biased, but nine out of 10 times, feds are way more professional when they go about the arrest.
	And the reason why they do that is because typically when feds are investigating, they're doing more complex cases that encompass a bigger organization and they want to go ahead and get cooperation.
	Now, with that said, I want to be very clear about this.
	If they're doing a roundup and they're arresting a bunch of different dudes on the same day, then yeah, they'll do that perp walk.
	But something like this, right?
	If NYPD was arresting Diddy, they would make sure they did a perp walk.
	The feds, they're not going to do that because they want to get their cooperation.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Now, on a logistics side of things, right?
	A logistics side of things.
	You know, I remember everyone criticizing how they went into his houses.
	It looked like it was a militarized approach.
	Shit, I told people, I'm like, hey, listen, you know, I mean, I could say the same game.
	They executed a search warrant in my house before they kicked my door down.
	You get what I'm saying?
	They came in with like a SWAT-looking vehicle.
	When I really asked them why, I'm like, what the fuck?
	They were like, listen, you have 50 guns at your house.
	Like, we don't know if you're going to just be willing.
	How do you think logistic-wise in making this arrest?
	They don't know.
	Diddy's rolling with 20 people, right?
	Like, maybe he's cool to go, but somebody might have a gun.
	Yeah.
	How do they think it was going to be so smooth?
	We didn't see any type of force.
	Do you think they were kind of watching the individuals he was with?
	You never know.
	Security might not understand the situation, even though they should, because this was imminent, right?
	It was pretty much almost a plan.
	Diddy knew that he was going to get arrested.
	How do they know they were going to face no resistance?
	Because this was no resistance.
	He was cooperative.
	They were soft-handed, pause.
	It worked out perfectly.
	Yeah, I think it comes down to them doing their due diligence, watching him on surveillance, identifying everyone that's in his entourage that walks with them.
	They're obviously going to run every single person.
	Because here's the thing.
	When you're watching someone on surveillance like that, you're going to identify all the people that they're rolling with.
	And when you're someone like a Diddy, you're going to roll around with the same people every single time, whether it's your security guard, your publicists, et cetera.
	You're going to start to surround yourself by the same people everywhere you go.
	So the feds absolutely identified who these individuals were.
	They ran them through, you know, ATF, see who has guns, who doesn't.
	They ran their driver's licenses.
	They got them fully identified and ran criminals on them.
	So you can rest assured the fact that they went ahead and approached Diddy in this manner, they absolutely knew who everyone was in that entourage and made the decision to go about it that way and kind of arrest them.
	And I'm sure they probably still did it, what's called an operation plan, which I'd be happy to explain that if you want me to.
	But something like this, they knew what was going on and they knew who the people were.
	So that's why they went with that soft approach on top of what I said before, trying to elicit a cooperation.
	Now, an operation plan.
	Okay, let's go through this.
	So an operation plan, guys, every single time you do an enforcement action in law enforcement, whether it's serving a search warrant, an arrest warrant, you're doing a knock and talk, you're doing anything that can lead to some type of enforcement action where use of force can potentially come.
	Even something like this, which is considered what I would consider a soft arrest, you should do something called an operate, where you have to do something called an operation plan, even for something like this.
	And the reason for that is because the operation plan not only covers what the objective is, it tells you who's going to be on the operation plan.
	If there's any informants, it's going to show who that informant is.
	If there's any undercover, it's going to show who the undercover is.
	It's going to show which agents are in what position.
	The perimeter guys, the entry guys, the search team, et cetera, the arrest teams, the teams that take the prisoners back to the processing station, depending on how complex the takedown is.
	And then what vehicle every agent is using, the radio frequencies that they're going to use, et cetera.
	It details the entire operation.
	And actually, this is one of the things I was extremely critical of when Trump was almost assassinated back in July.
	The number one thing I said when I went on a bunch of different podcasts explaining this, because I had done Secret Service details as well, and I know how they operate, is you need to go and look at the operation plan and see who the lead agent was and the supervisory special agent that signed off on it, right?
	And I can go into ranking of agents and that too if you want me to, but I'll stay focused on this operation plan thing.
	So the operation plan details everything.
	And the reason why it's so important, let's say there's a shooting and someone gets killed.
	The first thing internal affairs is going to do is go look at the operation plan and make sure the agent that was involved in that shooting was on that operation plan.
	He uses authorized weapon.
	Then they get into was the shooting clean.
	So the operation plan is kind of like a CYA and a little bit of protection when you do your enforcement action.
	Perfect.
	So I have a couple of questions.
	I wrote them down as you were speaking.
	Sure.
	It appears that the men who stepped, obviously they're in plain clothes, the officers, the agents.
	We're in the time and the land of body cam.
	Yeah.
	Would they have a body cam on?
	It don't seem like they would, but wouldn't that be important even on a, you know, for the case, if Diddy says something, you know what I mean?
	Like, these are important.
	So I wanted to ask about the body cam generally, especially in this situation, because it looked like plainclothes.
	Second of all, they brought him upstairs, right, clearly, because when it goes to the next clip, you see them hitting the elevator rather than just taking him directly back outside.
	Obviously, we subsequently realized they searched his room.
	Why do you think that they took him into custody, brought him somewhere still within the hotel rather than immediately just bringing him out of the hotel to maybe a vehicle and then getting him out of there?
	So what they probably did was they probably executed something called like a consent search.
	And they said, hey, look, you know, Diddy, we got a warrant for you.
	You know what?
	Matter of fact, let's go ahead and play through this, right?
	They gave him paper.
	That's what I was going to ask you, too.
	It looked like they were serving him papers.
	That's the first thing they walk at him with right here.
	So this is what they walk at him with a paper in hand.
	And you could probably tell me what they're probably saying.
	And I'm like, usually with local law enforcement, they're not like, here's your here's the arrest warrant.
	They just say, come here, motherfucker.
	You in cuffs.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So what do you think that is?
	And why do you think they go ahead?
	Yeah.
	So I'll tell you exactly what they did.
	They probably walked up.
	Mr. Combs, we got a warrant for your arrest.
	It's been signed by a magistrate.
	But, you know, let's just do this nice and smooth.
	We're going to walk you to your room, get any belongings that you might need, because we're going to be taking you to the to the to the marshals.
	And, you know, we're not going to cuff you right now, but we're going to have to cuff you later.
	And at that point, you know, and that's kind of smart for them to do that, because what they're basically doing is, look, do you need anything that you need to get out of your room?
	And what that basically does is allows them to follow him up to his room, because once you tell him that he's under arrest and you and you serve him with that paperwork, he is your problem now.
	He's officially like your prisoner and he's under your auspice.
	So now you can't leave him out of your sight.
	Right.
	He's no longer free to go.
	So they take him upstairs to get whatever.
	But there is something in the legal system called right to see right to be.
	So they lawfully have him and they're taking him up to his room.
	Right.
	Hey, do you want anything out of your room?
	Yeah, I need to get some things.
	Cool.
	That's effectively consent.
	Now, if you really want to be safe, you have a sign a consent form when you go in there.
	Right.
	To be safe.
	Hey, you know, do you ever give us the permission to consent to search or they could go in, see something that might demonstrate that there's criminal activity going on.
	Maybe they see some coke on the counter, whatever it may be.
	They could secure the room, go get a search warrant and come back and search it after the fact because they were illegally there and saw the cocaine.
	And now they have probable cause to search the rest of the hotel.
	So this is actually a very intelligent way to kind of get yourself in the room to snoop around and see if you could collect more evidence while simultaneously masking it as a humanitarian effort where you're allowing them to get their personal belongings before they go to jail.
	Does that make sense?
	No, no, no.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	So it's a possibility that maybe they didn't have a warrant for the room.
	I also do want to ask, but that's a good way to be like, hey, you need to grab anything.
	They walk in.
	They're not going to let him just, you know, waddle in.
	Well, I guess he was not cuffed then.
	Oh, just go in the room and do what you want.
	We'll wait outside.
	They're going to walk in with them.
	Now they're looking around.
	If they see something listed, they're like, all right, well, that's that's PC for us to keep searching and find even more stuff.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Do you think that maybe they were maybe also set up somewhere else in that hotel, maybe other agents, you know, kind of monitored maybe not only his room.
	And what do you think that their interaction with the hotel was?
	Let me ask you a question.
	You think they got to tell the hotel, like, hey, we're here to do a police operation on one of your guests, or they're just thugging it.
	There's in there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So when I would do operations, I wouldn't tell the hotel shit.
	I would just be sitting there.
	Obviously, you know, special agents are plain clothes, as you guys can see here.
	So I would just be sitting there chilling and wait for him to come in.
	Obviously, I got agents that were following him the whole time.
	And they're telling me, hey, he's about to walk in right now, blah, blah, blah.
	And then that's when I, you know, make the approach like these guys did.
	I mean, this is, you know, textbook, soft approach, arrest, get them to cooperate, et cetera.
	You don't tell the hotel nothing.
	You kind of do this surreptitiously, especially when you have someone famous like that.
	You know, typically celebrities like this have a connection and/or a contact at the hotel.
	So you don't want to notify the hotel because they might go ahead and tell Diddy, yo, just so you know, bro, there's some federal agents here asking questions.
	Don't come back here.
	Do you think Diddy knew he was probably being followed or being surveilled?
	Maybe, maybe the whole time he was in New York, but definitely that day.
	I know that the security for 6ix9ine, he said like the two days before the feds he really came in, it was very obvious.
	It was like super obvious.
	Like the block is just filled with different cars.
	It's just clear they were under surveillance.
	And he was able to spot that out.
	Do you think that maybe Diddy, you know, who was primarily walking around, probably started noticing, you know, I know he's famous, so like you might just think his fans, but started noticing a couple of things different because this is operational following to make sure, you know, he's yeah, I mean, I'm sure he might have noticed it, but you know, you know, the thing is, is that he's been not at least Diddy has been on notice that he's been under investigation as soon as they hit his houses back earlier this year and they did the search warrants.
	So at some point, you know, at first he was probably really, you know, freaking out, like, am I being followed, whatever.
	But then it starts to kind of, you know, that level of paranoia just naturally goes down.
	You're under investigation.
	You know what's coming.
	You know, you're going to get arrested at some point.
	And you kind of chill.
	And like, you know, at this point, you can see he's very calm when they come up to him.
	It's almost like he knew it was going to come at some point, just waiting for the day.
	And it came and he was smooth about it and you knew.
	So it's a whole different thing when you know that you're going to be arrested versus when you get suddenly arrested.
	Do you think this might sound crazy, but do you think potentially you might be a little bit relieved?
	Because getting up every day, knowing that it's any day now, right?
	And you're like, will it be today?
	I'm getting locked up.
	Am I going to get locked up in front of my kids?
	Am I getting locked up in front of like while I'm doing a shout out video with fans?
	Like, how embarrassing is this going to be?
	Do you think he's a little bit at least relieved?
	Because he, again, pretty much knew what was coming, right?
	Yeah.
	And this was a pretty much low-key gig.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	I'll tell you a funny story.
	Anytime I'm going after someone, especially with drug traffickers, because drug traffickers are like the most paranoid criminals, because for them to facilitate their crime, they have to do their crime pretty often to make the money that they make, right?
	They always got to be dealing with product, dealing with money, dealing with weird individuals that they got to sell to, dealing with the connect here.
	So drug dealers are some of the most paranoid criminals that you deal with.
	And anytime I caught a drug dealer, right, on the ride to the jail, they would fall asleep.
	And the reason why is because they can finally fucking relax.
	So the first night that you get caught is actually some of the best sleep that they get, ironically enough.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Because, I mean, at that point, you can't do anything.
	It's kind of over.
	Wow.
	They've been on edge for it.
	And that's something that not many people know unless you've been a federal agent and arrested high-profile criminals.
	They literally fall asleep the first time you get them.
	Let me also ask you.
	So in this process, and I think, damn, I feel like we're almost, we're like a hip-hop legal channel at this point because we've been covering so many like cases and stuff.
	But a lot of people who are watching, they're familiar with like Miranda rights.
	And that's, you know, being informed of your rights, that anything you say or do afterwards could be used in that particular or any subsequent criminal case against you.
	And it's called Miranda rights.
	It's like you have the right to remain silent.
	Now, do you think they do that immediately or they wait till he gets to downtown?
	And we're saying downtown is whatever precinct it is before they either, I don't know if they would try to talk to him again, if they haven't done an interview with him before, or as soon as they're putting the cuffs on him, they give him the Miranda rights.
	All right.
	So that's a fantastic question.
	Really good.
	I'm going to have to answer this in different parts because it depends.
	So when you first encounter the guy, like you see here, you don't want to read him his rights right away.
	Why not?
	And I'll tell you why.
	So you come up, hey, look, Diddy, we got a warrant for your arrest.
	You know, come with us.
	And then what you're going to do is you're going to kind of shut up or make small talk.
	How's your day today?
	How are you doing?
	Etc.
	You're not asking him incriminating questions.
	You're asking him, you know what I mean?
	Like, hey, we'll talk later, but you're just starting creating small talk, right?
	Let's see if they give you a spontaneous utterance when they get arrested.
	And I kind of explained this last time, but I'll explain it one more time for your audience because I know there's new people watching this stuff every day.
	A spontaneous utterance is when you go ahead and you're making an arrest and the individual says something at the spur of the moment.
	Oh, I knew I should have taken it, shouldn't have taken that cocaine.
	Fuck this dude, bro.
	Damn it, Rico.
	Well, that's admissible.
	He likes, oh, so-and-so snitched on me.
	Exactly.
	Or like, bro, I knew the fucking, this was a setup from Rico or some shit like that, right?
	That is, that is considered a spontaneous utterance.
	And even though you didn't Mirandize him, that comes in because he just said it, right?
	So the Miranda kicks in really when there's two things present: when the person isn't free to leave and you're asking questions about their criminal activity, right?
	So, and this is kind of where you dance.
	This is what separates good agents from bad agents, right?
	This is actually what we're talking about right now.
	And I'm kind of getting in the weeds here, but I really want to give this detail to your audience.
	Like, they're going to get the sauce today.
	The good agents make the small talk, don't talk about the criminal shit, build rapport, bond with the dude, pause, right?
	And they do it totally naturally.
	Like, he's talking to you as if he's your buddy, and you don't even think he's a criminal investigator.
	Hey, how you doing?
	Blah, blah, blah.
	Look, man, I know this shit sucks.
	Let's just go get your shit.
	We don't want nobody seeing this.
	I'm going to cuff you in the front.
	You know, I got some guys outside.
	They're going to tell me when the coast is clear, we're going to bring you outside.
	We're going to make sure we wave off the paparazzi.
	They're not going to get no picks, right?
	We're going to take care of you in this situation.
	I know this sucks, bro, but we're going to, you know, we're going to handle it.
	Boom.
	Take him upstairs.
	You're still talking to him, soften them up, et cetera.
	And a lot of the times when criminals are getting arrested, they'll partake in the small talk with you.
	They will, right?
	So, because it's a very awkward situation, but they also kind of want to, you know, feel that they're talking to a human, you know, depending on the individual.
	Hardened criminals will just shut the fuck up.
	Dudes that have been arrested a million times, they won't say nothing.
	But somebody like a Diddy, who's never really been like arrested for real and spent a lot of, spent time behind bars, they're going to be more apt to talk, right?
	So you're going to go ahead and build rapport with your guy.
	Then you're going to take him to the station.
	Once you get him in the station, you're going to put him in a room and you're going to say, look, you hungry, you thirsty?
	You need anything?
	Yeah, you know, I'll get some water, whatever.
	All right, cool.
	Hey, we're about to order food from this spot.
	You want anything?
	Oh, really?
	La, blah, blah.
	Okay, cool.
	I'm going to order some food.
	I'll come back.
	Go strategize with your partner.
	What questions you're going to ask?
	How you're going to run it.
	Get your recording equipment ready, blah, blah, blah.
	Come back in, give him his food, make some more small talk with him.
	You know, hey, you need to make any phone calls?
	You need to call any family, anything like that.
	You know, I'm not supposed to let you do this, but, you know, you need to make any phone calls.
	You want to call your lawyer, whatever.
	Oh, you started playing.
	Oh, you started playing the game.
	I'm not supposed to let you do it.
	So, so.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah.
	So, so, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, dude, I'm telling you, I used to really do this shit, man.
	Like, I got a director's award for a fucking reason, bro.
	Like, I used to do this shit.
	I'm watching this video and I just noticed something else.
	So, when he walks in, when he walks in the hotel, there's an agent.
	So, Chad, if you're looking on the screen, there's an agent who's in that second quarter or that, like, that pre, it's almost like a walk up to the front of the hotel.
	He comes in right when Diddy walks in.
	He cuts off the rest of the crowd.
	If you notice the crowd stops, he clearly says something to them like, yo, oh, yeah, back up.
	And then he walks in front, and then you'll see him in the next frame.
	I'm going to show you, Tap.
	So these two go after Diddy, and then there's a bunch of people here.
	And I think he says something to them.
	He's right here.
	You see this guy stop?
	Everybody kind of stops at the door.
	They don't keep walking in.
	Then you're going to, this is a guy right here.
	He's going to cut them off and join these two agents.
	Yep.
	See, right here, ball-headed guy.
	He cuts these guys off, right?
	He kind of walks through the crowd, right?
	And then you're going to see him not in this one, but I'm going to show you the same guy again.
	Which obviously they kind of, yeah, he's right here.
	They kind of knew what was going to happen.
	They knew he was with probably like 10 dudes.
	Like, all right, cool.
	He's kind of in the front of the entourage.
	As soon as he, I don't know how they're communicating, but as soon as he goes in.
	Let's keep the million.
	They see two white dudes come in, come at him.
	They know what time it is, man.
	Like, you know, there's no reason three white dudes are coming up to me, you know, with fucking tactical shoes on trying to, you know, trying to talk to Diddy.
	But let me just finish the mirror thing real quick.
	My bad.
	So he, so you put him in the interview room, et cetera.
	You're talking, making small talk.
	At this point, it's maybe been 45 minutes to an hour, right?
	Then you come in, you're like, all right, look, look, bro, we got to talk real quick.
	Just got some questions, but before we get into that conversation, I got to read your rights.
	Boom.
	You read him his rights, right?
	And also, I forgot to mention this: before you read him as rights, you gather biographical information: name, age, date of birth, all this shit, stuff that you already have.
	You still think they got to do that for Diddy, or you think they already got the paperwork there?
	They already got it, but you're going to ask him these questions to build rapport because when you ask him where he's from or how all that it generates conversation.
	So you're doing a small talk, getting his personal biographical information, even though you already got it, right?
	And then you read, you tell him, hey, look, bro, I just got to ask you some questions.
	I'm going to read you your rights real quick.
	You got the right to Marian Salon, blah, blah, blah.
	And then they're going to give him the miranda form to sign.
	And you're going to tell them, look, you don't got to sign it, but you know, it's just to let you know that I read it and can ask you some questions.
	And then a lot of the times, after you built that rapport, they'll say, okay, go ahead.
	And then that's when you can start asking your questions.
	And everything that you get is clear.
	So that's how you propose that.
	I hate this question.
	But I do want to ask this one question.
	Yeah, I'm done.
	That's how it's going to be.
	Okay, cool.
	You read the Miranda rights.
	And now the guy says, when you say, if you sign it, we could talk.
	If not, you know, your lawyer or whatever, right?
	Yeah.
	The guy says, I'll talk to you only if it's a possibility of me getting out of here today.
	Could you blatantly lie to him about that?
	Like, because you got to realize someone who would want to talk at that point, if they would want to talk, if they're like, hey, you know, if I could clear something up for you that I could walk out of here, cool.
	But, you know, it's kind of conditional at times.
	What would you say to that person?
	Okay, so I'm going to give your chat some sauce right now if they ever find themselves in police custody.
	This is what they're going to say 99% of the time for all of you guys, right?
	Anytime you're the subject of investigation.
	They're going to say, I can't make no promises.
	Let me call the AUSA, aka the prosecutor.
	Let me talk to my supervisor.
	Let me make a phone call.
	They're going to say that.
	What they're going to do is they're going to defer that decision to somebody else and say, let me talk to them.
	That's what they're always going to say every single time.
	Because at the end of the day, and I kind of explained this on the last one, but I'll do it.
	I really want to give your audience the insight here.
	Federal agents don't really have as much power as people think they do.
	It's really the AUSA's, aka the federal prosecutors that make the shots, that call the shots.
	Like your job is to do the investigation, arrest them.
	Once you got them under arrest, and you're starting to gather evidence on him there and then.
	Now the AUSA kind of has a lot of leeway into what happens.
	So him, you know.
	Wait, wait, wait, let me ask about that.
	I think you may have cleared it up last time, but I'll ask again.
	Maybe you could do it again.
	So like when a cop, like, for example, I've seen, like, I watched so many body cam footage, but a cop will pull somebody over and they'll be like, yo, I'll cut your break, bro.
	I'm not going to charge you for this little ounce of weed, but suspended driving, the kilos of Coke, I'm definitely charging for it.
	And that seemed like officer discretion on what is going to be the charges that that person's getting.
	So is there no discretion for the agents who are doing these investigations, arresting the guy?
	And okay, we're not going to, all right, come on, of course you had a little pink cocaine in your room.
	We're not going to hit you with charges for that, though.
	Yeah.
	Well, if it's a little pink cocaine, a lot of times it's not going to reach federal threshold for them to even warrant a prosecution.
	But to answer your question more fully, the state and locals have way more latitude to make probable cause arrest than the feds do.
	And the reason for that is because federal cases tend to be more complex and AUSAs are very picky and AUSAs don't want to lose their cases.
	So the agents got to work with the AUSA for a period of time before they can get the indictment to actually go pick the guy up.
	Whereas if you get stopped by a local police officer, he catches you with dope, he can make the arrest right then and there.
	But the feds aren't like that.
	You're not going to go to federal prison for having an ounce of cocaine.
	No AUSA is going to take that.
	That street level shit state.
	They're not going to take that unless the person's like a violent criminal.
	You know, there's some other extenuating circumstances.
	So the feds don't have as much jurisdiction to make probable cause arrests as the state does.
	Now, with that said, let's say you have him in your custody.
	Let's say, okay, let's go through a hypothetical here, right?
	Let's say they bring Diddy back, right?
	And Diddy's like, look, I'll crap with y'all.
	I'll give y'all somebody big, right?
	And he provides information that is good.
	The agent can go ahead and make a phone call to the AUSA and say, look, we need this guy out on bond, right?
	We're going to continue on because obviously we got the arrest warrant.
	We got to bring him before the magistrate, but we need this dude out on bond.
	All right.
	And these are, this is a rare situation because typically when they're indicted and shit like that, it's been public or whatever, but there are certain situations where you can get the guy out on bond after the fact to cooperate.
	That is when agents could kind of come in and throw their weight around a little bit because what they're going to say is like, yo, we want to further the investigation.
	I need this guy out.
	And then if the AUSA is like, all right, you want a further investigation and they kind of agree, then they'll talk to their, they'll talk to their team and then they're going to go ahead and not object to bail.
	Interesting.
	By the way, another question, not exactly a follow-up to that, but one that I thought of in terms of like just agent rapport with maybe a potential defendant.
	A lot of people in hip-hop have thought or has, you know, assumed, like actually, I believe one of his bodyguard has even said that based on certain communication they've seen before that seemed odd with Diddy and law enforcement, they actually believed that Diddy was a working CI at a point for maybe the feds.
	Okay, how would this work if you've had a CI?
	And by the way, we don't know if Diddy's a CI, so we're going off an assumption here, but I just want to set the scenario that we could get a realistic answer.
	If one of the CIs, right, ends up being a subject of a major arrest, how much of, you know, because I'm wanting, let's say Diddy was a CI at one point.
	Could he be like, yo, listen, I was giving you guys information.
	Like, you guys can't come back and charge me with certain shit.
	Like, I was helped setting up other people for y'all.
	Like, could that be a thing?
	Or would they make sure that the lines are very clear on, you know, hey, if you were going to participate in criminal behavior, we'd make sure we clear you for that.
	But there's no way you're just a CI because I don't know if you've seen this movie on, anybody seen this?
	One in the chat, if you've seen this, it's called, fuck.
	But it has this, it's popping on Netflix right now.
	Whitey Bulger, who's like a drug kingpin out of Boston, who was a CI for the FBI for all the years, and he was snitching on all his competitors, but he started taking it overboard because they told him, hey, you're a CI.
	We're going to kind of like look the other way with a lot of stuff you're doing, right?
	Because we have all these quotas and whatever to make, but you can't kill people.
	You know what he does?
	He feels like he has the protection of the feds.
	He starts killing people.
	You get what I'm saying?
	So later he gets taken down.
	Do you think that that might, you know, if Diddy was a CI, that might complicate things if now they're investigating crimes that maybe he was a CI for other people to take down other people of similar crimes?
	Yeah, that's a fantastic question.
	And I'll have to kind of answer this kind of like the Miranda thing to give you the full picture because this is another situation where it depends, but I'll go ahead and give you the different scenarios of what.
	By the way, the movie's called Black Mass.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Whitey Bulger, I'm very familiar with him.
	Winter Hill Gang, Irish mob.
	You know, he basically provided information to the FBI against La Cosa Nostra, the Angelo family out of there in Boston, North Boston, to be exact.
	And he was instrumental in, you know, the FBI getting him and he ended up getting John Connolly in trouble later on.
	I'm very well aware.
	And I went to college in Boston, so that case has a very significant role in my thing.
	But anyway, let's talk about informants.
	So there's two types of informants.
	Well, actually, there's multiple types of informants.
	There's corporating witnesses.
	There's corporating defendants.
	And then there's official confidential informants that are signed up getting paid, right?
	So for this case, we'll focus on confidential informants that are paid because these are the ones that are actually documented, I think, that you're trying to refer to.
	There's paperwork on them.
	They have something called the CI number, right?
	It'll be like CI-11234, right?
	You never use his real name when you write your reports.
	You just refer to him as CI, blah, blah, blah, right?
	So with these informants, if they're active and they're doing something where they're operating under the authority of an agent, let's say they're doing an operation where the CI is buying drugs or whatever, and that CI is arrested by police while performing under the authority of the government, the agency is going to get that CI out because obviously they directed him to do a criminal activity and maybe he got busted by the locals or whatever, and they'll facilitate getting him out or whatever maybe, right?
	But a lot of times there's something called deconfliction before you, okay, holy shit.
	So I got to step back here.
	Remember how I had mentioned the operation plan before?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And how an operation plan, you got a CI in there and the CI is identified.
	So there's no blue on blue or shooting the CI or any of that other shit.
	Another important thing when you do operations, you're going to do something called deconfliction.
	And what deconfliction is, is you're going to call all the local, you're going to call like a law enforcement hotline and you're going to say that you got an operation going.
	And if anyone else is going to be in the area conducting an operation, and this intermediary group, which every state has a different way of doing it, is going to tell you if there's any operations in that area.
	Now, if there is an operation in that area, they're going to say, look, there is an op where you're going to try to do your op.
	It's DEA special agent Mike Thompson.
	And they're going to give you Thompson's number.
	You're going to call Thompson and say, hey, bro, I'm from HSI.
	I'm from FBI.
	We're going to do a drug buy here.
	Where are you guys going to be?
	Oh, we're going to be here.
	Okay, cool.
	Now you know that there's another operation.
	You can either proceed with your operation or push it back or try to adjust the time so that there's no issues, right?
	So that's how you kind of mitigate that whole CI thing.
	That's if your CI is active and you're actually doing something.
	Now, let's assume the CI is deactivated, right?
	And does some stupid criminal shit, which this happens all the time.
	I can't tell you how many times I've had to fucking go to a police station to go deal with my informant doing dumb shit.
	They get because the thing is with informants, the best informants are actually criminals.
	So that means that they commit crime.
	And a lot of times they're not going to commit crime that's sanctioned by you.
	So what ends up happening is they get jammed up, they get arrested.
	First thing they tell the fucking guy is, oh, I'm an informant.
	The fucking guy calls you.
	Hey, I got this dude here.
	He says he works for you.
	Okay, I'll be over.
	Now, depending on how good the informant is, you're either going to say, A, fuck it, do what you got to do with him, or B, I'll be right there.
	You go over there, you got the fucking guy, you talk to the investigator.
	If it's local police, a lot of the times they'll do you solid, they just let them go.
	Let's paperwork for them.
	If it's another federal agency, they'll be like, yeah, bro, we kind of got him debt to rise, blah, blah, blah.
	It is what it is.
	And you're like, okay, cool, no problem.
	And then, you know, you let him get arrested and you do your deactivation paperwork because the CI getting arrested without your, you know, well, not doing something for you, that's a big violation.
	So that's kind of the whole situation when it comes to CIs.
	I kind of went in the weeds there, but I hope that answers it.
	Yeah.
	So, okay, okay.
	But all right.
	But in a situation like this, again, we're going off conspiracy theories.
	They say back in the 90s and early 2000s, Diddy was a CI.
	It wouldn't protect him.
	It wouldn't protect them because what will happen is, let's say he does say I was a CI.
	The first thing they're going to ask is, who did you work for?
	Oh, I work for FBI.
	Okay, who was your handler?
	This guy.
	Okay, well, that agent doesn't work anymore and you haven't been a CI in 20 years, 30 years.
	It won't matter.
	Okay, but do you think that would affect though?
	Like, for example, what people have noticed with this indictment, it starts at 2008, right?
	And a lot of people say, yo, where's the murders?
	Where's the Tupac thing?
	A lot of things that happen in the 90s, people are wondering why those things aren't charged.
	And by the way, we're going to talk about a criminal complaint next because, you know, or not a criminal complaint, the indictment, because the indictment is pretty, at least this first one, it's pretty bare bones.
	Clearly look like they're seeking another one because we're hearing grand jury still going on.
	But still, do you think that if he was a CI at some point, maybe they're like, hey, listen, we wouldn't even want this to come up in court to fuck up our situation.
	If we have a continual path of criminal behavior, let's start from the years that he clearly had zero association with the feds.
	Do you think they might do that?
	If they're like, nah, fuck it, we're putting everything in, even if he was a working CI at that point or not.
	Yeah, I mean, if it's a working CI, it'll give him a little bit more protection.
	But if you're doing fuck shit, bro, especially a serious crime like this, it's not going to protect you being a CI at all.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	The indictment.
	Okay.
	People have a lot of, you know, and by the way, Chat, we're going to get to playing some of the opinions of a lot of people in hip-hop.
	Dr. Umar says, what the hell?
	Since what is being freaky a crime?
	Boosie says this feels like it's just a trumped up way to try to take down a guy who was just freaky and into threesomes.
	Some other people are very surprised to say, well, if Cassie is the only victim, wow, think about this.
	Like Wackla Hunter is even going to ask the question is like, did she really backdoor him in the sense of she demanded money privately, then filed a lawsuit, then got it settled, and then still went to the feds.
	You get what I'm saying?
	Meaning that maybe if there wasn't a financial incentive for Cassie, this wouldn't be that big of a deal.
	And I guess people are criticizing the indictment because we expected to see like 10 witnesses or not 10 witnesses, but 10 victims and be like, hey, he beat the shit out of her.
	He got her beat by somebody else.
	She's sexual assaulted.
	She was sexually assaulted.
	It seems primarily hinged on Cassie.
	Thoughts about that?
	Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised that they kind of got out a barebone indictment in the beginning.
	You know, they're probably going after someone that is obviously very affluent, has the ability to fight this case.
	So they're going to go with what they know.
	They got him dead to rights, right?
	So and then also, obviously, the investigation is pending.
	They're trying to flip people.
	They're trying to get more witnesses, et cetera.
	So I definitely foresee that there's going to be a superseding indictment.
	I mean, hell, they found an AR-15 with scratched off serial numbers at one of his houses.
	They could charge him with that all day, 18 USC 922K, right?
	So that's a federal charge right there that carries five years just off of the serial number.
	I do predict that they can go ahead and get a superseding indictment, but I think that they're trying to elicit some cooperation and not play all their cards yet, especially given since this guy has the ability to fight this case.
	Hey, also as well, in the indictment paperwork, they provided some notice that there could be matters or assets that could be forfeited under, I forgot what the statue is.
	Is that normal?
	We usually hear about forfeiture in drug cases.
	Normally, forfeiture in a freak off case.
	Sorry about that.
	The forfeiture in a freak off case, you said?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, usually when people hear about forfeitures, like, yo, you've been transporting drugs in your Rolls Royce and you've been using this house as a stash house.
	For sure.
	And you've damaged a community.
	You've, you know, there's a lot of damages from all the activity you had going on that was criminal.
	We need to, you know, make people whole.
	And we're going to seize these assets under the forfeiture law to kind of make that happen.
	But in this case, you know, it's sex trafficking, obviously, clearly a crime, but why would forfeiture even be on the table?
	Yeah.
	So if you have a structure or a piece of property that was used to facilitate a crime, that asset or whatever it is can now be forfeitable.
	So I'll give you an example.
	Let's say I'm a drug trafficker, right?
	And I got three bank accounts and $1 of my drug proceeds goes into the clean money.
	Now all the clean money is forfeitable.
	Or if I'm stashing drugs at my house or have stashed drug in my house, drugs in my house, now that house becomes forfeitable because it was used in a crime.
	Same thing with these freak offs were conducted probably at locations that he owned.
	Now those locations are forfeitable as well.
	Because it was used to facilitate the crime.
	I've always heard that the forfeiture law is very like people have mixed opinions about it, right?
	Like for example, I'll just make up a scenario.
	Okay, Roger got caught for selling dope, right?
	He was selling dope and he was using one houses of stash houses.
	But the stash house is really owned by his grandma, who supposedly didn't really know what he was doing.
	She's had that house for three generations, passed from her grandmother or her mom and her mom's mom.
	And now they're snatching an asset that is a family thing.
	And they're basically saying it's all for drugs while the original owner, right?
	The grandma wasn't complicit in this or wasn't intricately involved.
	So some people kind of feel like that's kind of unfair.
	Yeah.
	So in that case, the government would have to prove that the rightful owner knew that it was being, that the criminal activity was being conducted at the residence.
	So the prove that and then they'd be able to seize it.
	But if they can't prove that the individual that rightfully owns it was facilitating, they probably can't take it.
	Hey, by the way, so the full bail package, which was ultimately denied by the district judge.
	And I'm shocked about that, actually, that they denied it.
	El Carter.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, I was going to ask you about in your time as a agent, have you ever seen a bail package this complex, this lavish?
	This, you know, this is an over-the-top attempt to get him out of jail.
	And I guess, you know, obviously this will be more of a question for Laura, but you definitely have probably seen these cases a lot.
	If they tend to turn down your either bail package or either deny you a bond initially once it gets to the district judge, do you think you'll get bail at all?
	In a lot of situations, the district judge ends up agreeing with the magistrate judge because the magistrate, and just for the audience, so they understand.
	So guys, when Diddy was brought in front of a judge, he was brought in front of a magistrate judge.
	Magistrate judges are kind of like a formality to get you into the system because they're like on duty and whoever was on duty that day to take on, you know, for that week, they got to do all initial appearances.
	So it's kind of like, you know, a luck of the draw.
	Then that magistrate judge, once they read your rights and, you know, get you into the proceedings, they assign you a district judge.
	And then the district judge is going to be the one that actually presides over your case, et cetera.
	Now, in most situations, the district judge does agree with the magistrate judge, but there are opportunities for the defense to make arguments as to why they want to get bond.
	So in this case, I will not lie.
	This is an extraordinary bail package.
	Have never seen something so extensive when it comes to putting up your assets.
	I've never seen something this big.
	And to be honest with you, I'm actually really surprised that he didn't get bonded.
	I thought he was going to get bonded because, from what I know, his defense team had been extremely cooperative with the feds.
	But clearly, the AUSA's office doesn't care.
	They don't want him out.
	They argued against getting him out, as a matter of fact.
	I think the reason why is probably because they found firearms at his house.
	They found the AR-15 that had the scratch seal number, etc.
	So, but I've never seen a bail package this extensive ever.
	By the way, you know, it looks like they were always going to push for detention.
	I think his lawyer was angling towards it because they said, remember, the raid happened on, I believe, March, is it 16 or March 20th?
	No, 25th, I believe.
	That's when the search warrant was executed.
	They sent a letter to the AUSA, didn't get a response, but they also said, hey, we have the counsel has taken his passports.
	It felt like they were trying to offer the passports to the government.
	The government just wasn't asking for it.
	Like, it didn't feel like they wanted to play ball.
	So, you know, his lawyer said something interesting, which I don't know if you would have the expertise to know about why or when or why and when the arrest warrant would be executed, but he feels like they wanted to arrest him spontaneously rather than a mutually agreed time to turn himself in because it would make him look better in the eyes of the court for a possible release for Bond.
	If the counsel, if lawyers are saying, yo, we got all of their passports, including his mom, all of the daughters, or, you know, all of his daughters, and the feds doesn't say, give us the passport.
	They essentially just allowed his lawyers to quote unquote have it and never take custody of it or never take control of it.
	Maybe they kind of wanted to push for a detention, right?
	Because they are still making the case for flight risk.
	Yeah, yeah, no, that's absolutely true.
	I mean, it didn't seem like they really wanted to play ball like that from looking at the emails and stuff.
	I know that his legal team definitely had been cooperating, but you know, at the end of the day, the AUSA's office decides who they want to get out on bond and who doesn't.
	I was actually surprised, but now that we see what's going on, there's a very good chance that he might not get bonded at all.
	So, and that's kind of just how it is, which kind of sucks for Diddy.
	But I've never seen a bail package so extensive ever.
	Yeah, they have detailed here with all the emails, basically like, you know, hey, following up from this email.
	We love to touch base.
	Hey, you know, he's traveling from here to here.
	Like, they're literally like offering up a lot.
	Yep.
	They went above and beyond.
	And like I said before, the last time we spoke, they did this in anticipation that he was going to be arrested and they wanted to angle for him to get bonded.
	Do you think an appeal?
	You know, obviously they said they're going to the second circuit courts.
	They're going to appeal this.
	Do you think that if you're saying this is above and beyond?
	And obviously the guns are an issue, right?
	Okay, cool.
	They found the guns.
	I think the witness intimidation is the worst thing.
	And now I'm going to ask you this because you've always said this and I've gotten this from you.
	You said the right to monitor one's phone calls is like the highest amount of probable cause you would need to get that warrant to tap somebody's phone call.
	Yeah.
	They know of multiple attempts and calls that he made.
	Oh, hey, he called Kalina 54 times after he got a new civil lawsuit last week.
	I don't know if his phone is tapped, but it seems like they know a lot.
	Do you think they tapped his phone?
	No, no.
	And the reason why is because for a case like this that's historical, you know, they're investigating crimes that already occurred.
	You're not going to be able to get the information that you need from wiretaps.
	And then on top of that, to do a wire.
	What about maybe a confession, an admission?
	Because I would think they would want to hear these conversations.
	Maybe he's calling them and be like, hey, you remember that one rainy night when we was all on the yacht and you know what I mean?
	Like you had three dicks in your mouth and you was drenching baby oil.
	Yo, I know you was tripping in the morning, but you got to tell him you were with it.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, you know what I mean?
	He might say some things.
	You know what I mean?
	He might say some things that it'd be like, okay, so he himself even is knowing that he was on some fuck shit.
	You get what I'm saying?
	Okay.
	So we're at a crossroads here.
	Do you want me to explain the process of getting a Title III?
	If I explain to you the process to actually get a Title III, it'll make a lot more sense as to why that probably wasn't what they did.
	I do want you to do, but I also want you to answer the question of, well, in a bail hearing, they have it so they have knowledge that he called 54 times.
	Yep.
	They have other conversations.
	Yep.
	Even though they could have gotten those conversations from those people because they eventually went to grand jury.
	Clearly, they testified from the grand jury.
	But they know a lot of his phone conversations.
	They even cite him directly saying at one point, hey, I can't talk on the phone.
	My phone tapped.
	Obviously, they're not going to admit right now that they ever tapped the phones.
	But how do you think they're getting these information if they're not tapping the phones?
	And then, of course, you can explain on Title III.
	Go ahead.
	Because the things that you're mentioning, which you're referring to, phone frequency and contact, that can simply be done through a subpoena.
	You can just do a subpoena to ATT or whoever his phone carrier is, and they'll give you all the tolls.
	And you can see that he called these individuals on these days this many times or a pen register like before.
	So the things that you're saying that they're collecting, these are things that don't rise to the level of a Title III.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah.
	That does make sense.
	Okay.
	I'm going to give you a full thing on how from A to Z, how what it takes to actually wiretap someone's phone if you want me to, but that's up to you.
	You know, maybe you could do a little bit of a hybrid.
	So let's, you're backing your, you know, agent shoes.
	You're, you're doing an investigation.
	A guy kind of like feels like the feds are closing in a bit.
	So he's trying to tie up his loose ends.
	How do you monitor that?
	And, you know, like, how do you juggle it both?
	Like three ways.
	Like, how do you juggle it by saying, oh, we need to take this guy in custody now?
	Because who knows?
	He might be reaching out to people who you're trying to flip.
	You're trying to flip these people.
	He's reaching out to them, trying to offer whatever incentive, right?
	He's intimidating people, possibly.
	You know, that, say, you're working on the southern border, some of these people are prone to a lot of violence.
	They might be like, yo, yo, if I, if, if, if you're talking to feds, I'll kill, I kill the shit out of you.
	You get what I'm saying?
	And also just it's at the point in the investigation where obviously, like, you have your evidence, which may be dated, but you are hoping this person fucks themselves.
	You're hoping that for whatever reason, they just get on the phone and just start ranting or does something now to basically verify your case that is based on evidence that's from over like 15 years ago.
	Okay.
	I'm going to answer this question.
	I'm going to give me one sec.
	I'm going to take a quick piss and get an energy drink and I'm going to knock this out the fucking park for y'all.
	All right.
	Give me one sec.
	All right.
	It's all good.
	All right.
	Chat, while we wait for Martin to come back, hopefully you remember the question, but hopefully he got a notepad.
	He always granted shit down.
	Chat, yeah.
	I can't call my boy because I don't know the nigga, but this is how MBC Brooklyn, you know, back in 2019, notoriously, there was no heat.
	There was no electricity.
	Apparently the inmates were in sub-zero temperatures for six days.
	This was a really, you know, dire situation.
	And people have just said, like, for example, here, people have just said this is a really horrific place to be.
	Now, if we're just expecting that Diddy's in the same type of place that every other inmates is going to be, maybe just on an isolation like Wing, he is going through it, right?
	Also, what we do have to get to.
	Wait, actually, I got my little list here.
	Chat, don't worry.
	If you're rocking today, we're going to be here for another at least five hours.
	So don't you worry.
	We'll cover all the Diddy stuff within the next two, and then we'll rock out with a regular stream afterwards.
	All right, I'm back, Act.
	Okay, do you remember the question?
	Yeah, I do.
	At first, it was what do you do when you're listening to the phone and you hear him trying to intimidate witnesses or threatening violence, et cetera?
	And how do you operate?
	So to get to that point, you actually have to be on something called a Title III.
	And a Title III intercept is monitoring emails, phones, BBMs, et cetera, real time, and you're getting the content.
	So when they get a text message.
	BBMs?
	Yeah, you can probably get a message.
	That's not Blackberry shit, huh?
	Yeah, BBMs, exactly.
	A lot of Mexican drug traffickers use Black Berry Messenger really big on the border.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they do.
	Because it's one of the most secure phones.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	BBM, all right?
	Go ahead.
	So, yeah, a lot of the drug lords do it.
	But so, a Title III is where you're actively monitoring and collecting information from a device and you're getting the contents.
	That's the most important thing.
	You're not just monitoring it, you're getting the content.
	So, if I wiretap you, ACK, and someone sends you a text message, I see that text message as well when you get it.
	If someone calls you, I hear that phone call and I can listen to that phone call as you get it, right?
	So, that's a Title III.
	Now, how do you get a Title III?
	The Title III intercept is the most invasive law enforcement technique there is in the United States of America, okay?
	And it requires a lot.
	I'm going to kind of go through what's required, and this is going to answer a lot of your questions.
	Step one, you're going to need, and I've never explained this before, so your audience is going to guess I'm fucking crazy right now.
	I'm going to go through how the feds do this shit because I've done it myself.
	Step one, you're going to need to do a pen register, okay?
	And a pen register is a trap and trace.
	That device, what it does is it, um, oh shit, look at that picture.
	The fuck?
	Yo.
	Yo, I think he's pouring champagne, but you never know.
	It might be, you know what I mean, carbonated baby oil.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Fuck, man, this dude.
	Anyway, so step one is you're going to get a pen register, aka a trap and trace.
	That is a court order, right?
	So for that, you don't need much, like reasonable suspicion, right?
	So let's say I'm investigating you, ACK, right?
	Yeah.
	For drug trafficking.
	I know that you're committing the crimes.
	I'll be watching you on surveillance, et cetera.
	And I know some of your conspirators.
	I put a pen register on your phone.
	Now I'm seeing who's contacting you at certain times, right?
	So when I'm watching you on surveillance, I know that you like to meet up with Tom on Tuesdays to pick up drugs.
	So not only am I watching on surveillance, I'm also looking at your phone, who you're contacting, who you're texting, et cetera.
	Again, it doesn't show me what you're doing.
	It just shows me frequency.
	So when you're doing this, you're contacting these numbers.
	I subpoena those numbers and I identify another three individuals, right, that are involved in the drug trafficking because you're calling them when you pick up, you're calling them when you drop off, and you're calling them when you're driving home.
	That's more than likely co-conspirators.
	Then I get an informant in.
	The informant talks to you and makes what's called dirty phone calls to you, right?
	And you make, we need two dirty phone calls.
	Now, what we've effectively done is- Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	What would constitute a quote-unquote dirty phone call?
	That is a phone call where the informant calls you and you guys are talking about criminal activity, whether it's drug trafficking, money laundering, et cetera.
	So, and the reason why I do that is because I'm making the phone dirty so now I can start writing paper on it.
	So now I've established that your device is used to facilitate criminal activity.
	Now, I got my pen register, I got my dirty calls, and I got my informant proving that the calls are dirty, right?
	Because I have the record, I have the monitor phone calls where you guys are talking about criminal activity.
	Now I start writing up my Title III affidavit, right?
	And that affidavit has to go from my supervisor all the way to the United States Attorney's Office, and it's got to go through something called OEO, right?
	And the Department of Justice.
	Then it comes back, and I got to take it to a district judge.
	This is a whole bunch of fucking work, right?
	Then after I get my Title III signed, I got to go and get interpreters to listen to the phone lines, and it's going to cost me about $50,000 to listen to one phone for 30 days.
	Now, that's a lot of work.
	And on top of that, the reason why I know that more than likely they didn't do a Title III in Diddy's case is because to listen to a phone, you need active criminal activity right then and there to be able to hear what they're talking about.
	Now, let's go into a dream scenario and let's assume that they were listening to Diddy's phone, right?
	Now that we know that it's highly improbable that he had the Title III, let's go into, let's say they did have the Title III and they caught him intimidating witnesses on the phone.
	They would be able to use that as a separate crime that he's calling individuals threatening him.
	Now, if he actually makes a real threat where, yo, I'm going to kill you if you fucking talk, blah, blah, blah.
	You have to go tell that individual, right?
	Or let's say he threatens to kill somebody with someone else on the phone.
	You have to go talk to the person whose life is in danger.
	I tell them, look, we can't tell you how, but we know that your life's in danger.
	You might want to leave town, right?
	That's what they did with 6ix9ine.
	When they brought 6ix9ine in after the Jim Jones call, we're going to super violate him.
	They told 6.
	I was just about to say that.
	As you're mentioning this.
	Yeah.
	It is eerily.
	Yo, chat, I'll give y'all a real quick story.
	Please save where you're at in your explanation.
	I just want to give you a real quick story about the 6ix9ine thing.
	So 6ix9ine goes to, I think, like Dubai and didn't come back for a long time.
	And I remember like people were saying he fired his team, he was falling out with shoddy.
	I remember I talked to him and he's like, yo, Ak, yo, bro.
	Yo, shit has just changed.
	And he say, yo, Ak.
	I'm going to tell you something.
	And shit is crazy.
	I said, what do you mean?
	What's going on?
	Because I was also advocating.
	I'm going to tell you why.
	I was advocating for his driver.
	His driver was a very nice guy.
	His driver was always the person when I went to a party.
	6ix9ine be like, yo, so-and-so is coming to get you at the front.
	Like, he always, the driver was almost like the runner.
	So when the driver got fired, the driver called me.
	And it was basically one of those calls to be like, yeah, I don't know, 6ix9ine, he's changed up on me.
	I know you're friends with him.
	Like, could you like, and basically was kind of asking me to like talk to six, nine to get him rehired.
	And I was just like, yeah, I'm a good guy.
	Like, you've been pretty good to me.
	I talk to 6ix9ine.
	If he's tripping out, let me tell this nigga to calm down.
	I call him and I say, bro, why you fire your fucking driver?
	He said, yo, he said, that guy's an informant.
	And I remember, I think I got like probably pale because everything I remember talking to the driver about, by the way, the driver was an informant.
	The driver was the one who had a car bugged.
	The driver was indeed an informant.
	The driver called me.
	I remember talking to him.
	Everything he was saying to me.
	Hold on.
	When he bugged the car, that was a title three, bro.
	Yeah, well, that's what I'm trying to say.
	So I don't know how 6ix9ine found out, but he stopped working with him during the investigation.
	And I guarantee that call, the feds got that call somewhere where the driver calls me and is telling me a version of the story for me to go hit 6ix9ine up to bring him back into the fold.
	6ix9ine tells me he's an informant.
	I'm like, yo, bro, you're bugging the fuck.
	Like, when 6-9 told me, I thought, I thought it was Lynn.
	I'm like, yo, you're bugging out, but at least I'm like, feds?
	He's like, yo, no, that guy's an informant.
	Wait, let me ask you a question real quick because I want to make sure I'm accurate about this.
	Was the car, did the car belong to him?
	The car belonged to the driver.
	Okay, never mind.
	It wasn't a title three then.
	They just bugged up his car.
	And that's called a conceptual recording because since it was his car and he owns it, he can, and he's cooperating with the government.
	He could put cameras and audio in there without a title three.
	It's a title three if they don't, if no party knows that they're being recorded.
	That was just a concession moderate one.
	My bad.
	I had to clear him for you.
	But there was definitely title three shit going on because there were multiple recordings that got played later in court.
	Yeah.
	And they had they had the main guy's fucking phone tapped.
	Oh my God.
	Jamel, his name was Jamel.
	Mel Murdiff's phone was tapped.
	Yes.
	I believe a bunch of 6ix9ine phones were probably tapped too.
	Because I ain't gonna lie, 6ix9ine was pretty high at that time.
	What I mean, hot, like, yo, he's the type of nigga.
	Like, I mean, he wouldn't say to me, but he's the type of nigga get on the phone and be like, yo, wait, what trippy say online?
	Shoot that nigga.
	Like, he's that type of nigga.
	Like, he was, he was, he would just say it.
	You know what I mean?
	He was, he's not the coded guy.
	Like, he's like, yo, yo, we'll boom at that nigga.
	Like, you know, like, he's that type of nigga, right?
	So, like, I could imagine they were probably, they were licking their chops listening to 6ix9ine on the phone.
	Like, that nigga was just on the phone while I'm, you know what I mean?
	So, definitely, there was, there was, there was Title III.
	There was a guy that used to work for TMZ.
	I don't know if he does anymore.
	He used to call me.
	6ix9ine used to leak shit to him to TMZ.
	And he told me and he said, yo, they got word from like the TMZ sources that there was like this investigation.
	And I remember he said to me, he said, Yo, Ak, I'm going to be honest with you, from what I've heard, Danny's definitely on some wiretaps.
	And I know you talked to him and I talked to him.
	Like, well, obviously, we don't talk to him about crime, but he's like, yo, I guarantee we're on some wiretap somewhere.
	And I was like, oh, shit.
	I ain't going to lie.
	I start.
	I've never been happier that I don't talk about crime or do crime.
	You know what I mean?
	But yeah.
	All right, go back to your story.
	I was just saying, in that situation, they had an informant.
	And I think the informant kind of validated everything that could lead to them getting a warrant because that was a driver who 6ix9ine would have bring other people around who would probably be in the car talking crazy to other niggas about crime.
	And they probably be like, well, this informant is corroborating that this guy's making quote unquote dirty calls.
	Let's get this Title III shit going on.
	They're doing this shit now.
	This is in real time.
	Yeah.
	And I know for a fact they had Mel Murder's phone tapped.
	I know that for a fact.
	And normally the way Title IIIs go, just because I just explained to you guys how hard it is to get a Title III, since it's so difficult to get one, you typically reserve it for like the top targets.
	Obviously, in the beginning of an investigation, you have to work your way up, but your goal is to get to the top phone.
	So I doubt that they were tapping Mel Murder's phone and had a Title III going on on Takashi at the same time because I don't know if they, I don't know.
	I'd have to look at the discovery, but I don't think they had Takashi's phone tap because he incriminated himself so much and they had a debt to rights and he flipped.
	But anyway, to go back to what you're saying, so now that we established-Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Sorry, let me add one more thing.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	They had shoddy's phone tapped too.
	That makes sense because he was high-ranking.
	Yeah, according to 6ix9ine.
	If they had Shotty's phone tap, they don't need 6ix9ine's phone.
	Well, I guess 6ix9ine was like, he was probably the easiest person to get.
	I don't know.
	Who knows?
	I didn't never heard anything about 6ix9ine's falling into that because he cooperated.
	So they didn't have to use those evidences.
	I wouldn't like I would.
	If I had Shodi's phone, there's no point to write paper for Takashi's phone.
	Because supposedly with Shadi.
	So when they bring in 6ix9ine on, oh, what am I forgetting?
	The dates now?
	November 18th, 2018.
	Yep.
	I always remember arrest dates.
	Yep.
	They bring him in on, they bring him in on that, like two days before they say, hey, listen, we have gotten information that somebody's going to try to kill you.
	Yep.
	Do you want us to protect you?
	He said, nah, I'm good.
	He leaves.
	And I told you, he was going to go to the casino.
	That's he was going to Mohegan's son.
	That's why they stopped him.
	Now, the only thing I'm unclear about, because when I talked to 6ix9ine, I think that's the they were looking at him as a potential target to flip according to what he told me.
	And we talked offline about this a lot.
	Oh, yeah, I told you he was the guy they wanted to flip the whole time.
	Because I don't know if you want me to explain it again, like where he was in the hierarchy, why he was so valuable, but I'll let you finish.
	And if you want me to explain that, I can.
	Well, they played him audio of Shadi supposedly talking to his girl and basically almost like corroborating that.
	I forgot if it was his girl or to the other guys, but he somehow said, like, yeah, I messed with his girl.
	That was enough for 6ix9ine to be like, oh, okay, if this goes down, I'm flipping.
	You get what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	So, like, that's a dirty game.
	And by the way, obviously, that's not what wiretaps are for.
	It's supposed to be criminal activity.
	But throughout the mix of whatever they've recorded legally or kept legally, they had enough to play for him and say, hey, listen, just to let you know, these are the guys who are your brothers.
	Yeah.
	6ix9ine says fuck that I'm telling.
	Yeah, that's a successful flip right there, right?
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	You know, that's a dirty game too, though.
	Hey, I'm listening to your phone call for criminal activity, but I hear that you've been your other homie's girl.
	Now I get to use that info to fuck with his mind that he flips on you.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	And, you know, and I can talk about that a little bit.
	So when you're monitoring a phone, you have about 30 seconds to listen.
	And if it's not pertinent criminal activity, you can't use it, right?
	You can't use it like from a criminal standpoint.
	But that doesn't mean that you can't use it to flip an informant, though.
	You might not be able to bring it in court on an admissibility situation, but you can absolutely use it to create an informant for sure.
	So, um, according to 6ix9ine, what he told me, he said he heard wiretap that heavily influenced what he was going to do heavily.
	Yep.
	Like, he said he was in disbelief until they played other people's recordings of people he thought he was friends or he was dealing with.
	And he, it made him now feel like, well, they're not my friends.
	So now when the feds say, hey, we have a situation where you could cooperate, he says, all in.
	Yeah, yeah, no, of course.
	And they probably showed him all the evidence they had against him.
	Like, it was, you know, it was just overwhelming.
	And he's going to decide.
	But to finish what we're saying, so we talked about what it takes to get a wiretap.
	Now we're talking about intimidating witnesses.
	Yeah, they're going to absolutely, you know, use that against them for a charge.
	Then if he goes, if they're able to, then the next thing is if he threatens someone's life, then they're going to go tell that person.
	That's how we got ended up with the 6ix9ine story.
	And then there was one more scenario that you asked me about with a wiretap if they hear it.
	Help me out.
	Those three scenarios you gave.
	Trying to remember what the last one was.
	Help me out.
	Yo, the chat better like this goddamn video, bro.
	We're giving him so much sauce right now.
	I don't think I've ever heard anyone explain how a wiretap works in the federal system.
	I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that shit.
	So these dudes need to subscribe to you and like the video and cheer some bits and everything else.
	And by the way, no, no, you know, you know, they're definitely supporting.
	We have so many people who are just fascinated by the case, but also the process of this, right?
	Because, you know, you know, just a month ago, there were people just saying, yo, there's nothing like, why do we keep talking about this?
	Nothing has come out of it.
	And obviously, this was all happening in the background.
	What you're doing is giving the context of what's happening.
	Imagine if there was a Title III.
	Let's just suppose, right?
	You just explain how laborious it would be to even get to the point of getting that.
	How much money, how much resources?
	I think we spoke about how much this investigation will cost.
	And this is a historical case, too.
	That's the big one.
	Since it's a historical case and they got to go back and it's really dependent on witness testimony, they just probably wouldn't be able to get the probable cause required to get up on a phone line and listen to him actively, if that makes sense.
	So, wow.
	Yeah, so I forgot the question about wiretap.
	But what I will say is, I want you to react to this.
	So, chat, check this out.
	Obviously, there's more sources, and I don't know if people feel a little bit more brave because he's incarcerated.
	But New York Post, and usually they're, I won't say all the way right or always right, but they do have a good high accuracy rate with them using sources, right?
	They know, they know people who are former law enforcement, or sometimes they know people, you know, will just come forward to them rather than other outlets.
	They ran a story to say inside Sean Diddy Combs, Hampton sex parties featuring gay rappers who was high on ketamine.
	And it says jailed hip-hop mogul Sean Diddy Combs, alleged freak off party, stunned one drug dealer after he saw household celebrities having sex with each other.
	The dealer said Diddy opened the door to his former Hamptons mansion.
	By the way, chat, we have to think about the Hamptons.
	The Hamptons are the place of usually the rich and famous.
	When you think about the now white parties with Michael Rubin, Hamptons, for whatever reasons, the Hamptons is like the place where rich, famous celebrities go to unwind, right?
	And it doesn't mean always sexually, but Jay-Z's out there.
	You'll see Jack Dorsey.
	You'll see them just walking down the street.
	You'll see, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio.
	I don't know why, but that's the place.
	Anyway, Diddy used to throw white parties.
	I don't know if you guys know, like, Diddy's the original provocateur of the white parties that now seemingly is taken over by Michael Rubin.
	This is why I call him the white Diddy.
	Now, this is supposedly a drug dealer who popped in.
	They said this guy went to the former Hamptons mansion.
	Diddy opened a door.
	He was wearing nothing but a robe.
	And he brought him to a back bedroom to do a cocaine deal.
	This is what the guy is saying.
	He says, weird shit was starting to happen.
	Celebrity guys fucking each other.
	They were back bedrooms.
	And it was like an inner sanctum.
	Wow.
	By the way, you know, I do want to pause and ask Myron a question because I've seen WAC made this point and I've seen Umar made this point.
	What's the difference between, because some people are saying, yo, he's being charged for being a freak.
	What's the difference between freaky and sex trafficking?
	Because also, here's the thing too.
	The thousand bottles of baby oil, people are torn on it.
	It makes for great headlines, but people are saying, wait, owning baby oil?
	Why are you acting like this is a thousand kilos of Coke?
	Yeah.
	So there's a couple of things why they're going after Diddy here.
	The main thing is, and this is what the government's going to argue, that the sex wasn't consensual because of the witnesses or the witnesses' fear that they would deal with severe consequences had they not participated, which obviously I predict Diddy's team is going to fight and say this was all consensual.
	They traveled across country to see this man.
	He will fly them in.
	They didn't have to come.
	They didn't have to do these sexual acts.
	They don't have to participate.
	They didn't have to keep traveling with him for days or weeks on end.
	That's more than likely what his defense is going to do.
	They're going to argue that all of this was consensual and the beatings and the fear and all this other shit are bullshit, right?
	That's what they're going to say.
	But where the government is going to get him is that some of these girls, girl or girls, I don't know how many victims they have here, were underage, which in that case is game over.
	It doesn't matter if it was consensual.
	Okay.
	So, you know, that's what people also pointed out.
	And by the way, his lawyer's been using that.
	His lawyer says there isn't any, you know, at least, I guess he hasn't gotten discovery yet, but he says, at least in the initial indictment, there isn't any indication that there's underage women.
	And he actually took offense to Diddy's case being related to R. Kelly's case and, of course, Jeffrey Epstein's case, both in which there were underage victims who are unable to give consent.
	So automatically, any sexual activity and transporting them from state to state just initially falls into sex trafficking.
	If you're an agent investigating this case and you're starting to see, you're dealing with a celebrity, right?
	So put your agent hat on again.
	What are you looking at to see if it fits under sex trafficking versus, hey, these were willing participants who are just freaky like Diddy?
	Like, what are the things you're looking at?
	This is a fucking great question, bro, because it's going to allow me to.
	You have to manage that there are civil suits.
	People, there's a financial incentive.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	So this is a fucking great ass question, bro.
	So here's the thing when it comes to human trafficking, and I really want to explain this to the audience.
	There's a difference in human trafficking and human smuggling.
	And the problem is that people constantly constantly forget that they're two different crimes, right?
	So what ends up happening a lot of times is human trafficking gets conflated with human smuggling.
	Human smuggling is the illegal impact.
	Oh, my bad.
	Oh, you're good.
	Okay.
	No, no, no, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I'm playing a video in the background.
	Yeah, you're good.
	You're good.
	You're good.
	Human smuggling is the illegal migration of illegal aliens into the United States, right?
	That are immigrants or illegal aliens and whatever, right?
	That's human smuggling.
	They typically pay a fee and they come in.
	Human trafficking is the forced labor of an individual or moving them around for some type of benefit to the person where the other person doesn't get, right?
	And there's different elements to the crime, right?
	Under duress, can't leave, et cetera, all this other stuff.
	That's the two main things.
	Now, what happens a lot of times is people think that prostitution rings are human trafficking rings.
	What the reality is, it's just prostitutes that work with a pimp and they got mad at their pimp and said, I'm being human trafficked.
	Then, when the feds actually show up and ask questions, they're like, no, I was just mad at him.
	It wasn't really human trafficking.
	He didn't pay me.
	And I was pissed off.
	It's not human trafficking, right?
	Because they were doing it electively.
	So I say all that to say that human trafficking isn't easy to prove.
	It's actually a pretty hard charge to prove because you need to prove that it was against their will.
	And I predict that his defense team is going to use the fact that it was consensual and they made overt attempts to engage in the said acts when they didn't have to.
	Now, where they're going to where the feds are going to come in, and this is why feds typically take human trafficking cases in the first place, is when underage girls are involved because it makes it a lot easier for them to prove their case.
	Because even if the girl was consensual to it, it doesn't matter.
	The girl can't consent, so therefore it's human trafficking automatically.
	Okay.
	So, you know what?
	So, so, and I know some people are like, yo, thank God ACT moved off of the Drake and Kendrick stuff.
	But a lot of times when people think about trafficking, we think about like containers.
	Like, yo, you're locked against your.
	I heard someone say, bro, y'all got to come with better, you know, like if you're saying trafficking or sex trafficking, y'all can't just say baby wall.
	Where's the handcuffs?
	Where are the where are these physical things that show that people could have not left, walked out the door?
	Hey, oh, y'all about to have a five niggas and two girls all fucking goodbye in your experience.
	Is that just a fallacy that sex trafficking or human trafficking?
	Well, let's say sex trafficking is like people locked in vans and traveled across.
	Because I know Diddy's lawyers are going to make the point that, wait, how is Cassie trafficking?
	Number one, she was flying around in private jets.
	Yeah.
	Who gets trafficked getting on a private jet?
	Also, and I feel like I keep giving you multi-part questions for HP.
	No worries.
	But this is going to be another part of it.
	Allegedly, Diddy had Cassie book a lot of the escorts.
	So maybe her credit card.
	I don't know if you pay for escorts or credit card.
	However, she was paying for them or soliciting those people, emails, hitting up an agency, calling.
	She was doing it.
	Wasn't Diddy saying, hey, give me three niggas with long dicks.
	Pause.
	Even though she said in her civil suit, he would instruct her to.
	That seems like hearsay.
	Unless there's like written in the text or something.
	And also, how do we know that she's not just throwing it on him?
	Is that a valid defense?
	No.
	And you best believe that I guarantee Cassie is probably a witness in this investigation.
	And real quick, I just want to tell everybody that's watching me, guys, I'm going to get off Twitch.
	I'm going to be on YouTube and Rumble.
	So come on over to YouTube or Rumble, guys.
	I'm going to get off my Twitch stream.
	Fresh is going to go stream with FaZe.
	So that's what's going to be going on on her Twitch channel.
	So I'm going to get off.
	Okay, sorry about that.
	He's over at TwitchCon, bro.
	You should have went too.
	But to answer your question with Cassie, okay.
	So I'm pretty confident that she's probably a government witness at this point.
	However, I anticipate that one of Diddy's defenses, I'm glad that we're having this conversation.
	He is probably going to have receipts and proof that she aided him in facilitating these sex parties.
	They were together for so goddamn long.
	He probably has some dirt on her too to show that she was involved as well with helping him set the shit up.
	Because make no mistake about it, she was, you know, when he was sitting there watching her get plotted by other guys or whatever, it was consensual a lot of the times.
	Was it every single time?
	Maybe not.
	But there was a lot of consensual fuckery going on too.
	Okay.
	Is it possible?
	And now we're into the woods.
	But again, I want you now as an agent to think about it like that.
	Well, if you're saying this is against her will, well, there were many other men that were either being paid or involved.
	Diddy wasn't the only person having sex with her.
	Why aren't they charged?
	If everything is against this, because again, we keep seeing, at least right now for the indictment, we see this one victim, which is Cassie.
	If you're saying all the sexual conduct was against her will, why aren't the prostitutes charged?
	Why aren't other people charged and just Diddy, unless you're saying Diddy had everybody doing it against everybody's will, and why aren't they listed as victims?
	Yeah, and that's, I anticipate that the defense is going to be getting witnesses that will support Diddy.
	The defense is going to have people that can prove that it was all consensual.
	And I think that's going to be what they do.
	Their main defense is going to be that this was sexual.
	They're going to pull out receipts showing that Diddy might have paid for them, but they traveled from across the country to come see him, et cetera, et cetera.
	They're going to implicate, they're going to, the other thing the defense is going to do, which I'm glad we're having this conversation, they're going to attack the credibility of all the witnesses in this case to show that they have maybe financial incentives to come after him.
	They had professional incentives to come after him.
	They had revenge incentives to come after him.
	They're going to paint, they're going to attack every single one of the government's witnesses with some type of nefarious purpose as to why they're cooperating with the government to include Cassie.
	And, you know, I'm sure Diddy probably has some receipts and video that shows that some of this stuff was consensual, et cetera.
	So it'll be interesting to see the defense that his team is going to put together.
	Okay.
	Would this be on an agent side or AUSA side?
	So I'm now starting to believe as this is shaping up, the main victim clearly seems to be Cassie.
	They haven't listed her by name, but they have listed actions with someone they call victim one.
	It clearly, you know, describes Cassie directly, if you ask me, from the Kid Cuddy thing that we've heard from before, from the, you know, the jealousy, some of the dates, and obviously the infamous video that was in 2016 where there was an assault caught on camera.
	Let me ask you this question, right?
	So if she's the main victim of all of this, right?
	And she's not seen as a perpetrator.
	Isn't this almost like a hearsay type of situation, right?
	Like, you know what I mean?
	If he has some stuff that could say, yo, she kind of was with it.
	Like.
	And also, oh, and also these other cases, right?
	You know, and by the way, we're watching like there's a video of like a quote-unquote Diddy party where we see fabulous and we see Trey Songs and, you know, Kevin Hart's like narrating.
	These other people who are like ancillary to the situation and all of these other lawsuits, why not go get them?
	Doesn't it make the case look weaker if they're not involved?
	And I think that's where Diddy's going to come in.
	I think he's going to come in.
	Diddy's job on this situation is what he's going to do is he's going to try to show that this was consensual.
	He's going to show other people that were involved.
	And he's going to identify other conspirators.
	And I think that's going to be his defense strategy.
	Attack the credibility of the witnesses, identify other individuals, and present evidence that shows that other individuals were also involved with facilitating this.
	I think that's what his game plan is going to be.
	And, you know, I've heard people mention Trey Song's name and not to throw him into the fire or anything like that.
	But obviously, there wouldn't be no name as an entertainer that's bigger than Diddy.
	And when people think about there's bigger fish, they're thinking about possibly executives.
	Of course.
	People have mentioned a few names like Clive Davis and, you know, other people, some of them who unfortunately have even passed away, who may have enabled or put him onto game to some of this behavior.
	You know, Trey Songs has a bunch of, you know, civil cases, nothing criminal.
	Do you think maybe they look at Diddy and be like, yo, if you could corroborate or help us get an investigation on this nigga going on, we might give you a little bit.
	Yeah.
	No, I think it's possible.
	If he can give them other names of big individuals that would bring the U.S. United States Attorney's Office some positive press, I think they can do it.
	They can give him a proffer, right?
	And or a 5K letter, a safety valve, whatever you want to call it.
	They're all basically the same thing, king for a day, queen for a day, you know, and he can provide some information with his lawyer there and not be prosecuted for it.
	And if you provide substantial assistance at least to an arrest or, you know, advancement of the investigation, they'll definitely give them some time off.
	Okay.
	How would you play it if, or I say you're the agent?
	Would you have talked to young Miami?
	Yes.
	She's made some tweets that have seemingly corroborated some of these freak offs.
	Yo, if, you know, if I wanted, Diddy could have you, you know what I mean?
	Sucking dick on your knees or whatever the case is, like eating my pussy.
	Like, she made a couple of those tweets.
	Yep.
	What would you do as an agent?
	Would you threaten her with maybe charging her to get cooperation or you would just, you know, maybe just pulling her in?
	She knows what it is.
	Bro, I'd be at her front door like fucking Domino's pizza, bro.
	I'd be there.
	I'd go and talk to her.
	Let her know, look, we got some questions.
	We don't want you to get wrapped up in this.
	We want to hear your side, blah, blah, blah.
	Get her to talk and see what happens.
	And the beauty here, going back to that Miranda discussion, me and you had earlier, I don't really have to mirandize her when I'm just doing like a knock and talk, right?
	Unless I'm like overtly asking her questions and she doesn't feel free to leave.
	Like I don't really have to mirandize her in that situation, right?
	So I would definitely be talking to her.
	Another person I would talk to, I would go talk to 50 Cent.
	I'll go like if I, there's people that I know that like don't like Diddy, even though that this might be biased, I'll go talk to them too, right?
	Just to kind of see, if I'm trying to build a case, like a lot of the times enemies have the best evidence, right?
	But the thing is, when you deal with someone that's biased like that, right?
	Let's say I go talk to 50 Cent and he tells me XYZ.
	I'm like, all right, cool.
	Do you have proof of that?
	Can you give me corroborating evidence of what you have?
	Do you have footage of maybe one of these freak offs?
	Do you have text messages or video from someone else that you know that has been to these freak offs?
	Because anytime you deal with a witness, I mean, this goes for all witnesses, but especially biased ones, you want to always have corroborating evidence that independently stands on its own that builds credibility for the witness.
	So like, for example, I go to 50 Cent, right?
	I know he hates Diddy and he has the axe to grind.
	Yo, can you tell me about Diddy?
	Oh, I hate that motherfucker.
	He, you know, grapes girls and he does this and, you know, he deals with young girls and all this other shit.
	I'm like, all right, cool.
	That's great information, but do you have proof?
	Yeah, let me show you this text message throughout a guy here.
	Let me show you this video, blah, blah.
	Bam.
	Now everything that he told me, he is a credible witness now because he gave me independent evidence that proves what he's saying is true.
	And it doesn't, and it's not just an axe to grind, if that makes sense.
	So how dirty could this get?
	Because for example, what people have pointed out is this mad nigga's quiet, right?
	Like, yo, yo, listen.
	I mean, I heard Fab on a recent song, but Fab ain't saying nothing.
	Meek Mill right now, the only thing he's saying is he's just trying to like, you know, shirt up his sexualities.
	Like, I'm from the trenches, find a video of me doing gay stuff.
	But he's not speaking on someone who, you know, think about these celebrities that attended the party.
	If you're an agent, do you play this dirty game?
	Even if maybe some people might know information, but never really participate, do you almost pull up on them and say, hey, listen, we might be looking to charge you as well based on what we know.
	Just feed them false information that could be truthful.
	And hey, your name might be in that indictment with Diddy as a defendant, unless just tell me everything you know.
	Tell me the worst things you've ever seen about him.
	And that could probably aim us in the right direction.
	Or maybe if you have a video or incriminating video or whatever, that could really help us really do our thing.
	Yeah, no, you can absolutely do that.
	I think it's very important that I let your audience know this for their own protection too.
	Guys, the police can lie to you.
	Okay.
	Law enforcement can absolutely lie to you.
	So that's something that people need to understand, know, and kind of have in the back of their mind anytime they're talking with law enforcement.
	So, you know, sometimes they're bluffing.
	Hey, we can charge you with XYZ and they can, you know, and they can't actually do it.
	And there's other times where they'll tell you, yeah, we could charge you XYZ and they can do it.
	So it's kind of on you to, you know, understand when you can tell what you're involved and what you're not involved and what they're lying about, what they're not lying about.
	But yeah, they can absolutely go to people like Young Miami or something like that, someone that was kind of close to the criminal activity and threaten to indict them as well if they don't cooperate.
	Okay, we've heard about a few things.
	I'm wondering why there aren't charges now.
	Not saying they won't come later.
	If Diddy supposedly held footages and there's one report, there's one report and chat, we're going to get to this New York Post article where there was a federal source who supposedly claimed they had some knowledge of the investigation.
	And they claim that, you know, some of the surveillance footage that they got and what they found in some of the raids is that some rooms were strictly meant for sexual activity and that there were, you know, angles and ways that people were being filmed that they definitely would not know they were being filmed from.
	Yeah.
	Well, when you think about that, that sounds like a serious charge already.
	If you're filming sexual activity, even if it's consensual, but the and maybe that's a state thing.
	I don't know how the federal government sees it.
	It's like, it's like when you record someone's phone call, right?
	In certain places, it's a one-party consent.
	In certain places, it's two-party.
	You need both people to consent to it.
	But again, I'm pretty sure filming someone sexually, but that also might be a little bit different because if it's within his residence, what I've learned is that supposedly, as long as you're not using it for blackmail or you're not putting it out, that might not be legal.
	How do you treat that situation?
	Because we keep hearing about there might be video proof of the freak off, but we're not seeing charges that essentially charge this guy with filming supposed non-consensual sexual activity.
	Yeah, no, that's a good question.
	And I think the reason why you're not seeing federal charges for that is because if they're minors, right?
	Because child porn is usually a really, that's the one that, you know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	So if they're underage, that's a different game.
	Now the feds can come in.
	But if it's adults, consensual sex between two adults, it's going to pretty much go to the state.
	You know, hell, even if it, yeah, it's going to go, it's going to more than likely go to the state.
	But that's probably why they're not charging.
	And the other thing, too, is, you know, Diddy can make the claim that everyone that came into my house knows that I record everything.
	A lot of these artists, a lot of these, you know, wealthy people, they make these women sign NDAs when they show up.
	So in the NDA, it might say, hey, I have a right to record every single part of the house and you're going to be under surveillance.
	So, you know, that's another way to kind of get around it.
	But I think the reason why it's not being raised to a federal issue is because typically voyeurism or recording people during sexual acts is like a state thing because some states are one party, some states are two-party, etc.
	It's not really a federal issue unless like children are involved.
	Yeah, chat.
	This was one of the infamous Diddy parties from six years ago.
	I can't, this might have been his 50th birthday, right?
	Like this is, what year is this?
	This is 2018.
	Yeah, this is 2018.
	He's like 59, right?
	Yeah, Diddy's, he's no, he's 54.
	He was born in 1969.
	So he's actually, he's turning 55 this year.
	That would have been like his 49th birthday.
	Yeah, that would have been like his 49th or 50th birthday.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Again, obviously, nothing, you know, a lot of people are misinformed about his freak off shit.
	He's like, these aren't the freak offs.
	This is just a regular over-the-top party that's sponsored by Siroc.
	Yeah.
	The freak off is like, you know, yo, it's like baby all central.
	If niggas ain't like, you know, you ever slip down a bowling aisle?
	If it ain't going like that, a thousand bottles?
	Come on.
	Yeah, bro.
	Hey, by the way, on this, we don't know if, you know, again, this is New York Post.
	I did want to point this one part out.
	And we still haven't seen this in the indictment.
	This is what the source said, right?
	The source said that you, and I'm reading it, you see two people you wouldn't think of be hooking up, rappers.
	That was what shocked me, the dealer told the post.
	I won't say names, but they were rappers that I immediately lost respect for and could not take them serious ever again.
	The people, the drug peddler added that many people at the party, which included a mix of female rappers and hookers, were already high on ketamine and GHB.
	This is a very interesting point that I've heard many people repeat.
	But how do you prove this 20 years later?
	They're saying Diddy had these parties and he drugged drinks.
	Now, if there's no toxicology reporter, there's no, like, is that hearsay?
	Like, how can we prove that Diddy was spiking drinks?
	Yeah, that's going to be a piece of evidence that, and that's a great thing that you pose, right?
	And this is also where his defense can kind of come in and fight this.
	A thing, a fact like that is going to be heavily reliant upon other witnesses corroborating it, right?
	So what more than likely happened is the HSI special agent spoke to a bunch of different people that attend these parties.
	And each of them, right, remember, you're interviewing each of them at different times.
	So one day you interview witness one, another day you interview witness two, another day you interview witness four, five, three, whatever the fuck it is, right?
	And if all of them say, yo, when I was there, this dude had GHB and cocaine, et cetera, and they all corroborate it independently, right?
	Because again, they don't know that you spoke to the other individual, they're just telling you what they saw, then that adds credence and credibility to each witness because they've all independently corroborated the same facts.
	So that's how you kind of get around the whole, was he in possession of drugs or not?
	Because you got a bunch of witnesses saying that the same exact drugs were there.
	By the way, also, this article leads with the headline that says featuring gay rappers, but we're not hearing men.
	I mean, there's some guys, obviously, Lil Rod is saying he was sexually assaulted, but like he never said he got penetrated.
	We're not hearing men saying that they were, you know, like penetrated by Diddy.
	And I'm not shooting on no bail, but we just like we've always heard the rumors of gay shit with Diddy.
	We're not seeing it, though.
	Like, honestly, we're not seeing the men.
	And it might be the men are just not making the allegations, right?
	Like, or they're hiding and they don't want to go public yet because it's so embarrassing.
	That's another option, too.
	They might have testified at the grand jury, right?
	But they're not like going public, like, you know, public to the general public.
	But, you know, when Diddy's defense attorneys, which I'm sure by now, they probably have a majority of the discovery.
	Diddy's team is going to look through and see what they're doing.
	Wait, do you think they've got it already?
	They're supposed to have a pre-trial conference on 24th.
	They probably have a significant amount of the discovery already guaranteed.
	Because like I said before, when I'm going into the grand jury room to testify, my AUSA already has all the documents she needs or he needs for trial, pretty much.
	A lot of AUSAs don't like to indict until they got like damn near 80% of the stuff they need for trial.
	So they've probably already started the discovery process and Diddy's defense team probably already has a significant amount of it.
	Hey, by the way, I'll read this other article, which again, New York Post, they have these sources.
	This one happens to be, it says, let me read this.
	I want to hear your reaction to it.
	One of the Department of Homeland Security agents who helped to raid Diddy's Florida abode claimed the music mogul had rooms that were clearly dedicated to sex with all cameras around.
	So if you were in the sex party, this is a direct quote.
	You were being recorded from every possible angle, including angles you wouldn't even have known about, the source said.
	Referring to the sometimes day-long orgies he called Free Calls, where drug dump victims were allegedly forced to have sex with male prostitutes.
	It says, and this is an agent again.
	In my opinion, he's as bad as Jeffrey Epstein.
	The source added about the late pedophile who hung himself behind bars.
	It says these women are young, either barely legal or barely illegal.
	Internally, officers said that they see a lot of similarities between Combs and Epstein, the well-connected financier who served time for trafficking dozens of girls in New York and Florida.
	Epstein was awaiting trial on additional charges, but he died in his jail cell in 2019.
	Yeah, what fucked Epstein up was that all the girls were underage.
	That's what fucked Epstein up.
	What do you think would have happened if maybe they weren't?
	Probably a very weak case.
	Really?
	Yeah, a very weak case.
	Yeah, because he was flying these chicks around to like, keep in mind, he had plenty of homes.
	He had homes in, he had West Palm Beach.
	He had a huge place in New Mexico.
	He had obviously his infamous house in New York City.
	He had the island, et cetera.
	So he was flying these girls all around on his private jets and shit like that.
	So if they were adults, bro, he would have been able to have a pretty strong defense that it was consensual.
	But what fucked Epstein up is that he recruited young girls and kind of groomed them when they were young to like fuck his rich and powerful friends.
	And that's what got him jacked up is dealing with making dealing with underage girls.
	And that's what gives people, it gives the feds jurisdiction a lot of times is the girls are underage and they're being transported interstate.
	But I got like a minute, bro, and then I got to get off this fresh once the stream and he's complaining.
	Yeah, no, no, no, no, absolutely, absolutely.
	Chat, any questions for Myron?
	By the way, definitely, anytime you hop on my stream when we're talking about shit like this, you always give so much valuable information.
	Absolutely, bro.
	I love it, man.
	Like I said, if it wasn't for, you know, doing a podcast and shit like that, bro, I would have never left and resigned.
	It was literally one of the best jobs ever.
	It was fun.
	And I'm very passionate about it.
	I'm sure you guys can tell from the way I speak about it.
	But the reason why I know all this shit is because, like, you know, I worked really hard when I was an agent.
	So I got to learn all this shit through experience.
	Okay.
	One last question.
	It's still multi-parted.
	This question I really have.
	I have it written down that I'll eventually ask Bradford Cohen, a very notorious defense attorney, but I do want to hear your take on it.
	Sure.
	So, you know, on a lawyer legal side of it, you know, you have civil complaints and then you have a criminal.
	Clearly, the criminal is going to be the most important thing.
	It's the reason why he's locked up.
	You know, a civil case can be drawn out for years or it could even be just waived because it's frivolous and just doesn't mean anything.
	Here's the interesting part: he's the last thing he's gotten is not a civil case, it's a criminal case, which now, if we are in the belief that maybe this investigation was spurred off of a civil litigation, should Diddy almost like you know, try to drag this civil stuff out or should he settle?
	Or, because here's the thing: if new people are jumping into the civil market, they all want money, but they're coming with additional investigation leads that the prosecutor could be like, oh, let's go talk to this person.
	We just read this new civil filing, or oh shit, they know the person, or they have this, they have a video of this.
	How do you think?
	I'll ask you from the agent perspective.
	Would you be still, number one, are you done with the case after you hand it to the AUSA?
	And number two, are you looking at these new civil filings to get additional leads as you either try to go for additional indictments or bolster the case for the AUSA?
	That's a great question.
	So, this is a double-edged problem, right?
	There's a double-edged sword.
	So, on one hand, these people are coming with civil cases, which means that they have acts to grind.
	They know Diddy personally, they can be a good witness, and they probably have some intimate knowledge that can help you on your criminal case.
	However, the fact that they're launching a civil case and trying to get money and recuperate from damages, et cetera, also hurts their credibility to a degree.
	Because what the defense is going to say is, yo, well, these people, of course, are going to tell you what you want to hear and cooperate because they want to get money.
	They have an axe to grind with this individual.
	They want revenge, right?
	Are they really victims?
	These people went ahead and they consensually had sex with them and now they want to come back and jump on the fucking bandwagon and make some money because everyone else is suing this guy.
	So, yes, you are getting individuals that are kind of coming forward and allows the feds to kind of go identify them and talk to them.
	But them launching a civil suit does hurt their credibility a little bit.
	So, it's a double-edged sword in that regard, I would say.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just send me a text the next time, you know, you're because I'm going to be doing this for the rest of the day, but like, you know, tomorrow or whatever, I love to coordinate that we at least get like an hour or two in.
	By the way, if this ever goes to trial, I do have a really, I think, decent plan of how this could be covered.
	I would definitely love you involved.
	We can talk about it offline, though, clearly.
	Absolutely, bro.
	Absolutely.
	We'll have to go there in person because they don't let you record in federal court, but I could definitely be there.
	No, no, no, of course.
	That was part of the plan.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, real IRL streaming.
	Yeah, no, let's, yeah, let's do it, man.
	But yeah, thank you for having me on, bro.
	Uh, guys, check me out on twitch.tv/slash fresh of fit.
	Fed reacts on YouTube and on Rumble.
	And Act, thanks for having me on, bro.
	And, you know, I'm always happy to do this.
	I'll jump on the next time you do a Diddy stream.
	No, of course.
	I appreciate it, brother.
	All right, bro.
	Anytime.
	Be safe.
	Later, guys.
	All right.
	That was a great stream, guys.
	I'm going to get off.
	Guys, we're going to end it there.
	Fresh has got a stream to do with FaZe right now.
	So go check him out, guys.
	Love you, ninjas.
	I'll catch you guys back here.
	I don't know if we're going to do the Ian Carroll stream.
	I'm fucking dead.
	I haven't slept yet.

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