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Sept. 20, 2024 - MyronGainesX
01:46:43
Fed Reacts To Diddy Arrest Footage LEAK With Akademiks
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Grand a night.
You get what I'm saying?
Um, however, so we have that to discuss, but he's incarcerated.
And after being incarcerated, we figured he'd be having some type of protective custody or whatever, but then the news comes out that he's on suicide watch.
From your experience in law enforcement and dealing with, you know, you know, many people who you've, you know, helped done the investigation to get arrested.
Um, what does that mean to you?
So, um, and that's actually one of the main reasons I want to jump on you.
I actually have a source of the case.
Pause.
No, did he?
Yeah, uh, I actually have a sorest pause.
Uh I actually have a source that works that so one of my good friends that I work with on the border, he used to work for the US Bureau of Prisons, right?
Who's responsible for the jailing of federal inmates?
And his buddy works at that detention center in Brooklyn.
And he told them that Diddy actually isn't on suicide watch.
They're just watching him very closely and uh making sure that he's segregated, et cetera, because he's obviously a celebrity, et cetera.
But he's not necessarily on suicide watch.
He's more in like protective custody.
Hmm, okay.
And by the way, this wouldn't be voluntarily, right?
Like, you know, I'm I don't I don't think he gets the choice.
You know, this guy, if anything happens to him, I was by the way, I've looked up MDC.
It's been known, like just in July, footage came out of an MS-13 gang member stabbing somebody 44 times in Brooklyn, MDC before one correctional officer intervened, right?
This looks like uh some type of general area.
You know, obviously, I'm not saying Diddy's the most hated person, but you people could be in there trying to make a name.
You know, you're never bad for you know the federal government and even New York City itself.
Uh, do you think it's voluntary that he he's in this state or no?
Nah, completely involuntary.
Um, you know, uh, they understand that a high profile case like this puts them on the hook, and obviously the pu if something like Epstein happens again, it's gonna lose an enormous amount of public trust.
So they're gonna do everything in their power to keep him safe and not have not have another Epstein situation because that you know, that gave the federal government a very big black eye.
So um they're gonna keep him in protective custody, no bunk mates, they're gonna be watching him on camera, etc.
And yeah, you're right.
MDC Brooklyn is one of the worst jails in the in the United States by far.
Because the thing is is that it's it's kinda it's like an intermediary prison, right?
So, like while you're fighting your case, that's where you stay, right?
It's not like a real, you know, uh prison where you're going.
That's kind of like an intermediate or lockup, and there's like, you know, well over a thousand guys in there.
So um definitely involuntary just on who he is, and if anything happens to him, it would really look bad on them, especially after the Epstein situation.
Yeah, speaking about uh uh um Epstein or Epstein, I don't know how you say his name, but uh the speaking about that situation where it was said and announced that he committed suicide, even though he was supposedly on watch, right?
I I'm I'm wondering, like, especially what would be protocol afterwards.
I don't know if you would know, or maybe like your friend who's probably worked at these institutions would know.
Because I would imagine after the Epstein situation, anybody who's super high profile who comes in here, who is facing a charge that carries life, we're immediately starting to do like, you know, uh um some psychology tests or some you know evaluations of you to see where your mindset's at that we could properly assess the situation, right?
Like some people might be able to put up fine with that, you know.
I mean, who knows?
Maybe El Chapo's like, yo, little Chapito is coming in like three months to get me out of here, so I'm cool, or three years or 30 years, or he's just used to that type of lifestyle and knew he was gonna go to jail eventually.
Who knows?
Versus Diddy's like, this is like beyond hell, right?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, um, so mentally he might not be able to cope as well as somebody else.
I do you think they do like these mental evaluations on intake, or maybe they're like, man, tough it out.
Yeah, uh for for something like this where um it's kind of like pretrial detention, not really, you know.
Their job is to kind of hold the body while um while the guy is you know pending his case.
Uh that's kind of their job.
So they're gonna do the bare minimum required, you know.
I'm saying to keep him keep him safe and do what they gotta do.
But obviously, with someone like him, they're gonna be a bit more careful just because of how big he is.
Yeah, so it and you know what I said about that too?
I said, when I seen the news that he's on suicide watch.
I said that's a very sexy headline, but I'm it but it also fools the public to think that Diddy might be expressing signs of suicide.
Which, you know, again, I don't know what he's feeling or how he's acting at the moment.
But I feel like that was more of a media thing, and the media right now is gonna grab at everything and trump it up, like yo, suicide watch.
It immediately makes us think Epstein and other things.
Well, maybe it's just protocol, and I'm glad this lawyer kind of like, you know, um is trying to clarify it.
Yeah.
Uh I I do want to play the video of him being taken into custody.
Yeah, go for it, brother.
Compared to the raid, it was very subtle.
It's not held.
It's exactly like how I told you it would be, right?
Yeah.
Then I tell you it was exactly how I told you it would be.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, you're you're absolutely right.
Chad, if you guys haven't seen the video, this is on the front page of TMZ.
It appears, by the way, I've talked to several people who were with Diddy as he was strolling down Manhattan and going to various places.
Looks like as soon as he got back into his hotel, um, they quickly just separated him from the group of people he was with.
And they actually did this in a very it wasn't like, hey, put your hands up, like slam him, none of that.
I'll play the video if you guys haven't seen it real quick.
It's a minute long.
Diddy walks in with his people.
Ooh, and quickly, I think these are federal agents.
They step immediately.
It's like they they probably had somebody flanking them behind because they knew exactly when it was coming in.
Yeah, they're watching them.
No hesitation.
They separate him, they separate him from everyone else.
By the way, they're not wearing uniforms.
It looked like someone has a badge or something, but they're now wearing, you know, uniforms that say like police or whatever.
Um, don't even have a jacket.
They walk with him alone.
His people smartly don't follow and stay back.
Yep.
And I'm surprised there's only two agents.
Like, you know, Diddy was rolling around with uh uh uh entourage of like 20 people, and it appears that uh it was they're joined by another officer who all these guys are HSI special agents and task force officers.
Oh wow, it's a lot of them now.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, and now they're bringing Diddy out, and it appears that, oh yeah, his hand is behind his back.
Yep.
His hand, his hand is behind his back.
And look like they stop him in that little area to probably like clear the walkway and make sure, you know, they're probably trying to still keep it discreet, even though you know it's an arrest and his arrest, and they're making sure the car is up front or whatever the wagon they're gonna put him in.
Yep, yep, yep.
They're holding him, yeah, yeah.
And then they bring him out.
Wow.
Yep.
Crazy stuff, man.
Yeah, and and and this is him, this is him being walked um, yeah, walked quickly, look like quickly to a vehicle that's uh uh awaiting.
We don't know what vehicle if it if it's uh marked or unmarked, but but I'm guessing by how they pulled up, probably unmarked, right?
Yeah, 100%.
They're always unmarked.
You you you've done these type of things, obviously, you know, you you you've worked a lot in the southern border, but generally, what would happen um before this happened, around the time of this happened, keep in mind there's multiple videos of like 20 minutes before.
He's walking around taking pictures, apparently was even in Central Park early that day.
What do you think was happening the entire day?
Uh, from the agents' perspective.
Yep, yep.
Um, so okay, I'll take you through.
So, what more than likely happened was they had eyes on him, they were watching the whole time, and they said, okay, when's the most opportune time to get this guy?
They probably wanted to pick him up in a way where there weren't gonna be a lot of people around them besides, you know, obviously his his entourage.
And as you can see, they they did it pretty respectfully, right?
They they went ahead just like I had predicted and arrested him in a fashion where it wouldn't cause great public embarrassment.
You know, I'm sure TMZ had to work their asses off to get this footage, you know, they just probably didn't furnish it to them, et cetera.
So when and when you pick somebody up like this, right?
You want to pick them up in a in a way where it's cooperative, it's respectful, you don't want to embarrass them.
And uh, and the reason for that is because you want these this guy to cooperate.
So you understand, you know, you get more bees with honey than vinegar.
So that's why they went with that softer approach.
Um, because at the end of the day, they want to, this is a conspiracy case.
Keep in mind, this is a racketeering case.
Racketeering means that there's always going to be other conspirators involved.
So they want his cooperation to get anyone else.
And that's why I'm pretty confident that they went this route.
Yeah, if it felt like they they they try to save his dignity to some extent.
Yeah.
And we've seen a lot of times in New York City, like, for example, these are more local cases.
But if if anyone knows, and by the way, I gave a shout out to Lisa Everett.
She's one of the most amazing people in terms of you know, diligently working on uh on news.
She's a news reporter, but also in hip hop as well.
She's covered these joints that usually the police will give her a ride along to the bust.
And there's there's a lot of can't they just busted something called slattery gang.
And the the perp walk is crazy.
There's mad cameras out there.
They're letting the press know, like, yo, we're we're we're getting these guys, you're gonna come watch us while we parade them out of the precinct to the holding area.
It's almost set up for the media.
Here it looks like it was super discreet.
They didn't rob him of his dignity.
Um is that always the case?
Yeah.
Uh federally.
Yeah, the feds are way more fucking professional when it comes to arrests.
And I'm not just saying this because I'm biased, but nine out of ten times feds are way more professional when they go about the arrest.
And the reason for why that why they do that is because typically when feds are investigating, they're doing more complex cases that encompass a bigger organization, and they want to go ahead and get cooperation.
Now, with that said, I want to be very clear about this.
If they're doing a roundup and they're arresting a bunch of different dudes on the same day, then yeah, they'll do that perp walk.
But something like this, right?
If NYPD was arresting Diddy, they would make sure they did a perp walk.
The feds, they're not gonna do that because they want to get their cooperation.
Okay, all right.
Now, on a logistics side of things, right?
A logistics side of things.
Uh-huh.
Um, you know, I remember everyone criticizing how they went into his houses.
It looked like it was a militarized approach.
Shit, I told people, I'm like, hey, listen, you know, I mean, I could say the same game.
They executed search ward in my house before they didn't kick my door down.
You get what I'm saying?
Yep.
They came here with like a SWAT-looking vehicle.
When I really asked them why, I'm like, what the fuck?
They were like, listen, you have 50 guns at your house.
Like, we don't know if you're gonna just be willing.
How how how do you think logistics-wise in making this arrest?
They don't know.
Diddy's rolling with 20 people, right?
Yeah.
Like, maybe, maybe he's cool to go, but somebody might have a gun.
Yeah.
How do they think it was gonna be so smooth?
Um, we we didn't see any type of force.
Do you think they were kind of watching the individuals he was with?
You never know, security might not understand the situation, even though they should, because this was eminent, right?
There was pretty much almost a plan.
Um, did he knew that he was gonna get arrested?
Uh, how do they know they were gonna face no resistance?
Because this was no resistance.
He was cooperative, they were um soft-handed, pause.
Uh, it worked out perfectly.
Yeah, I I think it it comes down to them doing their due diligence, watching him on surveillance, identifying everyone that's in his entourage that walks with him.
They're obviously gonna run every single person.
Because here's the thing when you're watching someone on surveillance like that, you're gonna identify all the people that they're rolling with.
And when you're someone like a Diddy, you're gonna roll around with the same people every single time, whether it's a security guard, your publicists, etc.
You're gonna start to surround yourself by the same people everywhere you go.
So the feds absolutely identified who these individuals were.
They ran them through, you know, ATF, make see who has guns, who doesn't.
They ran their driver's licenses, they got them fully identified, and you know, ran criminal histories on them.
So you can rest assured the fact that they went ahead and approached Diddy in this manner, they absolutely knew who everyone went who everyone was in that entourage and made the decision to go about it that way and kind of arrest them.
And I'm sure they probably still did it uh what's called an operation plan, which I'd be happy to explain that if you want me to.
But um something like this, they they they knew what was going on and do they knew who the people were.
So that's why they went with that soft approach on top of what I said before, trying to elicit a uh um cooperation.
Now, um, an operation plan.
Okay, let's go through this.
So, an operation plan, guys.
Every single time you do an enforcement action in law enforcement, whether it's uh serving a search warrant, an arrest warrant, uh, you're doing a knock-in talk, you're doing anything that can lead to some type of enforcement action where use of force can potentially be uh come.
Even something like this, which is you know, consider what I would call consider a soft arrest.
You should do something called an operate operate where you have to do something called an operation plan, um, even for something like this.
And the reason for that is because the operation plan not only covers what the objective is, it tells you who's gonna be on the operation plan.
If there's any informants, it's gonna show who that informant is.
If there's any undercovers, it's gonna show the who the undercover is.
It's gonna show which agents are on what position, the perimeter guys, the entry guys, the search team, etc.
The the the um uh the arrest teams, the teams that take the uh prisoners back to the um processing station, depending on how complex the takedown is.
So um, and then what vehicle every agent is using, the radio frequencies that they're gonna use, et cetera.
It details the entire operation.
And actually, this is one of the things I was extremely critical of when uh Trump was uh almost assassinated back in July.
The number one thing I said when I went on a bunch of different podcasts explaining this, because I had done Secret Service details as well, and I know how they operate, is you need to go and look at the operation plan and see who the lead agent was and the supervisory special agent that signed off on it, right?
And I can go into ranking of agents and that too if you want me to, but I'll stay focused on this operation plan thing.
So the operation plan details everything.
If a and the reason why it's so important, let's say there's a shooting and someone gets killed.
The first thing internal affairs is gonna do is go look at the operation plan and make sure the agent that was involved in that shooting was on that operation plan.
He uses authorized weapon.
Then they get into was the shooting clean.
So the operation plan is kind of like a CYA and um uh uh a little bit of protection when you do your enforcement action.
Perfect.
Uh I I do so I have a couple of questions.
I wrote him down as we were speaking.
Sure.
It appears that the the the men who stepped, the obviously they're in plain clothes, the the the officers, the agents we're in the the time and the land of body cam.
Yeah.
Would they have a body camera?
It don't seem like they would, but wouldn't that be important even on a in uh on on a you know uh for the case?
If if Diddy says something, you know what I mean?
Like these are important.
So I I wanted to ask about the body cam generally, um, in especially in this situation, because it looked like plain clothes.
Second of all, um they brought him upstairs, right?
Clearly.
Because when when when it goes to the next clip, you see them hitting the um elevator rather than just take him directly back outside.
Yeah.
Obviously, we subsequently realized they searched his room.
Why do you think that they took him into custody, brought him somewhere still within the the um the hotel rather than immediately just bringing him out of the hotel to maybe a vehicle and then getting them out of there?
Um, so what they probably did was they probably executed something called like a um a consent search, and they said, Hey, look, you know, did he we got a warrant for you?
This is you know what matter of fact, let's go ahead and play through this, right?
They gave him paper.
That's what I was gonna ask you too.
They it looked like they were serving him papers.
That's the first thing they walk at him with, right?
Here so this is what they walk at him with a paper in hand.
Uh-huh.
And and I and I you could probably tell me what they're probably saying.
And I'm like, you usually would local law enforcement, they're not like, here's your here's the the the arrest warrant.
They just say, Come here, motherfucker, you in cuffs, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So what do you think that is?
And why do you think they go ahead?
Yeah.
So I'll tell you exactly what they did.
They probably walked up, Mr. Combs, we got a warrant for your arrest.
Um, it's been signed by a magistrate.
Um, if you know, we're let's just do this nice and smooth.
We're gonna walk you to your room, get any belongings that you might need, uh, because we're gonna be taking you to the to the to the marshals.
Um and you know, we're not gonna cuff you right now, but we're gonna have to cuff you later.
And at that point, you know, and that's kind of smart for them to do that because what they're basically doing is look, do you need anything that you need to get out of your room?
And what that basically does is allows them to follow him up to his room.
Because once you tell him that he's under arrest and you and you serve him with that paperwork, he's your problem now.
He's officially like your prisoner, and he's under your auspice.
So now you can't leave him out of your sight, right?
He's no longer free to go.
So they take him upstairs to get whatever, but there's something in the legal system called right to see, right to be.
So they lawfully have him and they're taking him up to his room, right?
Hey, do you want anything out of your room?
Yeah, I need to get some things cool.
That's effectively consent.
Now, if you really want to be safe, you have them sign a consent form when you go in there, right?
To be extra safe.
Hey, you know, do you ever give us the permission to consent to search?
Or they could go in, see something that might demonstrate that there's criminal activity going on.
Maybe they see some coke on the counter, whatever it may be.
They could secure the room, go get a search warrant and come back and search it after the fact because they were legally there and saw the cocaine and now they have probable costs to search the rest of the hotel.
So this is actually a very intelligent way to kind of get yourself in the room to snoop around and see if you could collect more evidence while simultaneously masking it as a humanitarian effort where you're allowing them to get their personal belongings before they go to jail.
Does that make sense?
No, no, no, absolutely.
So so it's a possibility that maybe they didn't have a warrant for the room.
I also do want to ask um but but but that's a good way to be like hey you need to grab anything they walk in they're not gonna just let him just you know waddling well I guess he was not cuffed then.
Oh just go in the room and do what you want will wait outside they're gonna walk in with them.
Of course now they're looking around if they see something illicit they're like all right well that's that that's PC for us to keep searching and find even more stuff.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you think that maybe they were maybe also set up somewhere else in in that hotel.
Maybe other agents um you know kind of monitoring maybe not only his room and what do you think that their interaction with the hotel was you think they got to tell the the hotel like hey we're here to do a police operation one of your guests or they're just thugging it there's in there.
Yeah yeah so um when I would do operations I wouldn't tell the hotel shit um I would just be sitting there obviously you know special agents are plain clothes as you guys can see here so I would just be sitting there chilling and wait for him to come in.
Obviously I got agents that were following him the whole time and they're telling me hey he's about to walk in right now blah blah blah and then that's when I you know make the approach like these guys did.
I mean this is you know textbook soft approach arrest get them to cooperate etc.
You don't tell the hotel nothing you kind of do this surreptitiously especially when you have someone famous like that you know typically celebrities like this have a connection andor a contact at the hotel.
So you don't want to notify the hotel because they might go ahead and tell Diddy yo just so you know bro, there's some federal agents here asking questions.
Don't come back here.
Do you think Diddy knew he was probably being followed or being surveilled?
Maybe the whole time he was in New York, but definitely that day.
I know that the security for 6ix9ine, he said like the two days before the feds really came in.
It was very obvious.
It was like super obvious.
Like the block is just filled with different cars.
It's just clear they were under surveillance.
And he was able to spot that out.
You think that maybe Diddy, who was primarily walking around, probably started noticing.
I know he's famous, so you might just think he's fans.
But started noticing a couple things different because this is an operation to follow to make sure he's.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure he might have noticed it.
But, you know, the thing is that he's been.
At least Diddy has been on notice that he's been under investigation as soon as they hit his houses back earlier this year.
And they did the search warrants.
So at some point, you know, at first he was probably really, you know, freaking out.
like am I being a father or whatever, but then it starts to kind of, you know, that level of paranoia just naturally goes down you're under investigation you know it's coming you know you're gonna get arrested at some point and you kind of chill and like you know at this point you can see he's very calm when they come up to him it's almost like he knew it was going to come at some point just waiting for the day and uh it came and he was smooth about it and you knew so uh it's a whole different thing when you know that you're gonna be arrested versus when you get suddenly arrested.
Do you think this might sound crazy, but do you think potentially it might be a little bit relieved because getting up every day, knowing that it's any day now?
Right.
And you're like, will it be today?
I'm getting locked up.
Am I going to get locked up in front of my kids?
Am I getting locked up in front of like while I'm doing a shout out video with fans?
Like, how embarrassing is this going to be?
Do you think he's a little bit at least relieved?
Because he, again, pretty much knew it was coming.
Right.
Yeah.
And this was a pretty much low key gig.
no um absolutely um yeah I'll tell you a funny story anytime I'm going after someone especially with drug traffickers because drug drivers are like the most paranoid criminals because for them to facilitate their crime they have to do their crime pretty often to make the money that they make right they always got to be dealing with product dealing with money dealing with weird individuals that they got to sell to dealing with the connect here.
So drug dealers are some of the most paranoid criminals that you deal with and anytime I caught a drug dealer right on the right to the jail they would fall asleep.
And the reason why is because they can finally fucking relax.
So the first night that you get caught is actually the some of the best sleep that they get ironically enough.
Oh wow yeah okay because because because I mean at that point you can't do anything it's kind of over wow they've been on edge for and that's something that not many people know unless you've been a federal agent and arrested high profile criminals they literally fall asleep the first time you get them.
Let me also ask you so so in this process and and I and I think damn I feel like we're almost we're like a hip hop legal channel at this point because we've been covering so many like cases and stuff.
But a lot of people who are watching, they're familiar with like Miranda rights, and and that's you know, um, being informed of your rights that anything you say or do afterwards could be used in that particular or any subsequent criminal case against you.
Uh and it's called Miranda, right?
So it's like you have the right to remain silent.
Now, do you think they they do that immediately or they wait till he gets to to downtown, and we're saying downtown as whatever precinct it is before they they either I don't know if they would try to talk to him again, um, if they haven't done an interview with him before, or as soon as they're putting the cuffs on him, they they give him the Miranda rights.
All right, so that's a fantastic question.
Uh, really good.
I'm gonna have to answer this in different parts because it depends.
So when you first encounter the guy, like you see here, you don't want to read him his rights right away.
Why not?
And I'll tell you why.
So you come up, hey, look, Diddy, we got a warrant for your arrest.
You know, come with us.
And then what you're gonna do is you're gonna kind of shut up or make small talk.
How's your day today?
How are you doing?
Etc.
You're not asking him incriminating questions.
You're asking him, you know, I mean, like, hey, we'll talk later, but you're just starting creating small talk, right?
Let's see if they give you a spontaneous utterance when they get arrested.
And I kind of explained this last time, but I'll explain it one more time for your audience because I know there's new people watching this stuff every day.
A spontaneous utterance is when you go ahead and you're making an arrest and the individual says something at the spur of the moment.
Oh, I knew I should have taken it, shouldn't have taken that cocaine.
Fuck this dude, bro.
Damn it, Rico.
Well, that's admissible.
So-and-so snitched on me, must have exactly.
Or like, bro, I knew the fucking this was a setup from Rico or some shit like that, right?
That is that is considered a spontaneous utterance, and even though you didn't memorize him, that comes in because he just said it, right?
So the Miranda kicks in really when there's two things present.
When the person isn't free to leave, and you're asking questions about their criminal activity, right?
So and this is kind of where you dance.
This is what separates good agents from bad agents, right?
This is actually what we're talking about right now, and I'm kind of getting in the weeds here, but I really want to give this detail detail to your audience.
Like, they're gonna get the sauce today.
The good agents make the small talk, don't talk about the criminal shit, build rapport, bond with the dude, pause, right?
And they do it totally naturally.
Like he's talking to you as if he's your buddy, and you don't even think he's a criminal investigator.
Hey, how you doing?
Blah, blah, blah.
Look, man, I know this shit sucks.
Let's just go get your shit.
We don't want nobody seeing this.
I'm gonna cuff you in the front.
You know, I got some guys outside, they're gonna tell me when the coast is clear, we're gonna bring you outside, we're gonna make sure we wave off the paparazzi.
They're not gonna get no picks, right?
We're gonna take care of you in this situation.
I know this sucks, bro.
But we're gonna, you know, we're gonna handle it.
Boom, take them upstairs.
You're still talking to him, soften him up, etc.
And a lot of the times when criminals are getting arrested, they'll they'll partake in the small talk with you.
They will, right?
So, because it's a very awkward situation, but they also kind of wanna, you know, feel that they're talking to a human, you know, depending on the individual.
Hardened criminals will just shut the fuck up.
Dudes that have been arrested a million times, they won't say nothing.
But somebody like a Diddy who's never really been like arrested for real and spent a lot of spent time behind bars, they're gonna be more apt to talk, right?
So you're gonna go ahead and build rapport with your guy, then you're gonna take him to the station.
Once you get them in the station, you're gonna put them in a room, and you're gonna say, look, you hungry, you're thirsty, you need anything.
Yeah, you know, I'll get some water, whatever.
All right, cool.
Hey, we're about to order food uh from this spot.
You want anything?
Oh, really?
Blah, blah, blah.
Okay, cool.
I'm gonna order some food, I'll I'll come back.
You go strategize with your partner, what questions you're gonna ask, what how you're gonna run it, get your recording equipment ready, blah, blah, blah.
Come back in, give them his food, make some more small talk with him.
You know, hey, you need to make any phone calls, you need to call any family, anything like that.
You know, I'm not supposed to let you do this, but uh, you know, you need to make any phone calls, you want to call your lawyer, whatever the fuck.
Oh, you start playing.
I'll just start playing the game.
I'm not supposed to let you do it.
So, so yeah, so um, so you know what I'm saying.
Like, dude, I'm telling you, I used to really do this shit, man.
Like, I got a director's word for a fucking reason, bro.
Like, I used to why do we do this shit.
I'm watching this video, and I just noticed something else.
Um, so when he walks in, when he walks in the hotel, there's an agent.
So, Chad, if you're looking on the screen, there's an agent who's in that second quarter or that like that that pre- it's almost like a walk up to the front of the hotel.
He comes in right when Diddy walks in, he cuts off the rest of the crowd.
If you notice the crowd stops, he clearly says something to them, like, yo, all yeah, back up.
And then he walks in front, and then you'll see him in the next frame.
I'm gonna show you, Tap.
So these two go after Diddy, and then there's a bunch of people here, and I think he says something to them.
He's right here.
You see this guy stop.
Everybody kind of stops at the door.
They don't keep walking in.
Then you're gonna see this is a guy right here.
He's gonna cut them off and join these two agents.
Yep.
See him right here, bald headed guy.
He cuts these guys off, right?
He kind of walks to the crowd, right?
And then you're gonna see him.
Uh not in this one, but I'm gonna show you the same guy again.
Which which obviously they kind of, yeah, he's right here.
They kind of knew what was gonna happen.
They knew he was with probably like 10 dudes.
Like, all right, cool.
He's kind of in in the front of the entourage.
As soon as he, as I don't know how they're communicating, but as soon as he goes in.
Let's keep it a million.
They see two white dudes come in, come at him, they know what time it is, man.
Like, you know, there's no reason three white dudes are coming up to me, you know, with fucking tactical shoes on, trying to talk, you know, trying to talk to Diddy.
But let me just finish the random thing real quick.
My bad.
So he so you put him in the interview room, etc.
You're talking, make a small talk.
At this point, it's maybe been 45 minutes to an hour, right?
Then you come in, you're like, all right, look, look, bro, we gotta talk real quick.
I just got some questions, but before we get into that conversation, I gotta read your rights.
Boom.
You read them his rights, right?
And and also, I forgot to mention this.
Before you read him his rights, you gather biographical information.
Name, age, date of birth, all this shit.
Stuff that you already have.
So you still think they gotta do that for Diddy, or you think they already got the paperwork there?
They already got it, but you're gonna ask him these questions to build rapport because when you ask him where he's from or how he all that it generates conversation.
So you're doing the small talk, again, his personal biographical information, even though you already got it, right?
And then you read the you tell him, hey, look, bro, I just gotta ask you some questions.
I'm gonna read you your rights real quick.
You got the right to marry and sell it, blah, blah, blah.
And then they're gonna give him the random form to sign.
And you're gonna tell him, look, you don't gotta sign it, but you know, it's just to let you know that I read it and can ask you some questions.
And then a lot of the times, after you've built that rapport, they'll say, okay, go ahead.
And then that's when you can start asking your questions, and everything that you get is is is clear.
So um, that's how you properly.
I hate to cut you, but I do want to ask this one question.
Yeah, I'm done.
That's how he's present.
Okay, cool.
You you read the Miranda rights, and um now the now the guy says, Well, when he's when you say, if you sign it, we could talk.
If not, you know, your lawyer or whatever, right?
Yeah.
The guy says, I'll talk to you only if it's a possibility of me getting out of here today.
Could you blately lie to him about that?
Like, because you you gotta realize someone who would want to talk at that point, if they would want to talk if they're like, hey, you know, if I could clear something up for you that I could walk out of here, cool.
But um, you know, it's kind of conditional at times.
What would you say to that person?
Okay, so I'm gonna give your chats some sauce right now if they ever find themselves in police custody.
This is what they're gonna say 99% of the time for all of you guys, right?
Anytime you're the subject investigation.
They're gonna say, I can't make no promises.
Oh, let me call the AUSA, aka the prosecutor, let me talk to my supervisor, let me make a phone call.
They're gonna say that.
What they're gonna do is they're gonna defer that decision to somebody else and say, Let me talk to them.
That's what they're always gonna say every single time.
Because at the end of the day, like, and I kind of explained this on the last one, but I'll do it.
Like I really want to give your audience the insight here.
Federal agents don't really have as much power as people think they do.
It's really the AUSA's aka the federal prosecutors that make the shots that call the shots.
Like, your job is to do the investigation, arrest them.
But once you got him under arrest, and you're starting to gather evidence with the on him there and then.
Now the AUSA kind of has a lot of leeway into what happens.
So him, you know.
Wait, wait, wait, look, let me ask about that.
I think you may have cleared it up last time, but I'll ask again, maybe you could do it again.
So, like when a cop, like, for example, I've seen like I watched so many body cam footage, but but but um a cop will pull somebody over and and and they'll be like, yo, I'll cut your break, bro.
I'm not gonna charge you for this little ounce of weed, but suspended driving, the kilos of coke, I'm definitely charging for.
And that seemed like officer discretion on what is going to be the charges that that person's getting.
It so is there no discretion for the agents who are doing these investigations, arresting the guy.
Um, and okay, we're not gonna all right, come on, of course you had a little pink cocaine in your room.
We're not gonna, we're not gonna hit you with charges for that, though.
Yeah, um well, if it's a little pink cocaine, a lot of times it's not gonna reach federal threshold for them to even warrant a prosecution.
But um, but to to answer your question more fully, the state and locals have way more uh latitude to make probable cause arrests than the feds do.
And the reason for that is because federal cases tend to be more complex and AUSAs are very picky and AUCs don't want to lose their cases.
So the A the agents gotta work with the AUSA for a period of time before they can get the indictment to actually go pick the guy up.
Whereas if you get stopped by a local police officer, he catches you with dope, he can make the arrest right then and there.
But the feds aren't like that.
You're not gonna go to federal prison for having an ounce of cocaine.
No AUSA is gonna take that.
That street level shit state, they're not gonna take that unless the person's like a violent criminal, you know, there's some other extenuating circumstances.
So the feds don't have as much jurisdiction to make probable cause arrests as the state does.
Um now, with that said, let's say you have him in your custody.
Let's say, okay, let's go through a hypothetical here, right?
Let's say they bring Diddy back, right?
And Diddy's like, look, I'll quad with y'all, I'll give y'all somebody big, right?
And he provides information that is good.
The agent can go ahead and make a phone call today, you would say and say, look, we need this guy out on bond, right?
We're gonna continue on because obviously we got the arrest warrant, we gotta bring him in front of the magistrate, but we need this dude out on bond.
All right.
And yeah, and these are this is a rare situation because typically when they're indicted and shit like that, it's been public or whatever, but there are certain situations where you can get the guy out on bond after the fact to cooperate.
That is when agents could kind of come in and throw their weight around a little bit.
Because what they're gonna say is like, yo, we want to further the investigation, I need this guy out.
And then if the AUSA is like, all right, you want a further investigation, and they kind of agree, then they'll talk to their uh they'll talk to their team, and then they're gonna go ahead and not object to to bail.
Interesting.
Uh by the way, another question, not exactly a follow-up to that, but but but one that I thought of in terms of like just agent rapport with maybe uh a potential defendant.
A lot of people in hip hop have thought or has you know assumed, like actually, I believe one of his bodyguards has even said that based on certain communication they've seen before that seemed odd with Diddy and law enforcement.
They actually believe that Diddy was a working CI at a point for maybe the feds.
Okay, how would this work if you've had a CI?
And by the way, we don't know if Diddy's a CI, so we're making we're doing we're going off an assumption here, but I just want to set the scenario that we could get uh realistic answer.
If one of the the CIs, right, ends up being a subject of a major arrest, how uh how much of um you know, because I'm wondering, let's say Diddy was a CI at one point.
Could he be like, yo, listen, I was giving you guys information.
Like, you guys can't come back and charge me with certain shit.
Like, I was helping setting up other people for y'all.
Like, could that be a thing, or would they make sure that the lines are very clear on, you know, hey, if you were gonna participate in criminal um behavior, we'd make sure we clear you for that.
But there's no way you're just a CI because I don't know if you've seen this movie on um anybody seen this?
One in the chat if you've seen this.
Is it's called um Fuck.
But it has his it's on it's popping on Netflix right now.
Whitey Bulger, who's was like uh drug kingpin out of Boston, who was a CI for the FBI for all the years, and he was snitching on all his competitors, but he started taking it overboard because they told him, hey, you're a CI, we're gonna kind of like look the other way with a lot of stuff you're doing, right?
Because we have all these quotas and whatever to make.
But you can't kill people.
You know what he does?
He feels like he has the protection of the feds, he starts killing people.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So later he gets taken down.
Do you do you think that that might, you know, if Diddy was a CI, that might complicate things if now they're investigating crimes that maybe he was a CI for other people to take down other people of similar crimes.
Yeah, that's a fantastic question.
I and I'll have to kind of answer this kind of like the Miranda thing to give you the full picture, because this is another situation where it depends, but I'll go ahead and give you the different scenarios of what I'm saying.
By the way, the movie's called Black Mass.
Thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
Whitey Bolger are very familiar with him.
Winterhoe gang, Irish mob.
You know, he basically provided information to the FBI against the Lacosa Nostra, the Anjulo family out of there in Boston, North Boston to be exact.
And he was instrumental in, you know, the FBI getting him, and he ended up getting John Connolly in trouble later on.
I'm very well aware.
The what and I I I went to college in Boston, so that case has a very um significant role in my thing.
But anyway, let's talk about informants.
So there's two types of informants.
Well, actually, there's multiple types of informants.
There's cooperating witnesses, there's corporating defendants, and then there's official confidential informants that are signed up getting paid, right?
So for this case, we'll focus on confidential informants that are paid because these are the ones that are actually documented, I think that you're trying to refer to.
There's paperwork on them.
They have something called the CI number, right?
It'll be like CI dash 11234, right?
You never you you never use his real name when you write your reports.
You just refer to him as CI, blah, blah, blah, right?
So with these informants, if they're active and they're doing something where they're operating under the authority of an agent.
Let's say they're doing an operation where the in where the the uh CI is buying drugs or whatever, and that CI is arrested by police while performing under the authority of the government, the agency's gonna get that CI out.
Because obviously they directed him to do a criminal activity, and maybe he got busted by the locals or whatever, and they'll facilitate getting him out or whatever may be, right?
But a lot of times there's something called deconfliction before you okay, holy shit.
So I gotta step back here.
Remember how I mentioned the operation plan before?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And how an operation plan, you got a CI in there, and uh the CI uh is identified, so there's no blue on blue or shooting the CI or any of that other shit.
Another important thing when you do operations, you're gonna do something called deconfliction.
And what deconfliction is you're gonna call all the local law, you're gonna call like a law enforcement hotline, and you're gonna say that you got an operation going.
And if anyone else is gonna be in the area conducting an operation.
And this intermediary group, which every state has a different way of doing it, is gonna tell you if there's any operations in that area.
Now, if there is an operation in that area, they're gonna say, look, there is an op where you're gonna try to do your op.
It's DEA special agent Mike Thompson, and they're gonna give you Thompson's number.
You're gonna call Thompson and say, Hey, bro, I'm from HSI, I'm from FBI.
We're gonna do a drug buy here.
Where are you guys gonna be?
Oh, we're gonna be here.
Okay, cool.
Now you know that there's another operation, you can either proceed with your operation or push it back or try to adjust the time so that there's no issues, right?
So that's how you kind of mitigate that whole CI thing.
That's if your CI is active and you're actually doing something.
Now, let's assume the CI is deactivated, right?
And does some stupid criminal shit, which this happens all the time.
I can't tell you how many times I've had to fucking go to a police station to go deal with my informant doing dumb shit.
They get because the thing is with informants, the best informants are actually criminals.
So that means that they commit crime.
And a lot of times they're not gonna commit crime that's sanctioned by you.
So what ends up happening is they get jammed up, they get arrested.
First thing they tell the fucking guy is, oh, I'm an informant.
The fucking guy calls you.
Hey, I got this dude here.
He says he works for you.
Okay, I'll be over.
Now, and depending on how good the informant is, you're either gonna say, A, fuck it, do what you gotta do with him, or B, I'll be right there.
You go over there, you got the fucking guy, you talk to the investigator.
If it's local police, a lot of the times, they'll do you solid, they just let him go.
Let's pay work for them.
If it's another federal agency, they'll be like, Yeah, bro, we kind of got him debt to rise, blah, blah, blah.
It is what it is, and you're like, okay, cool, no problem.
And then, you know, you you let him get arrested and you do your deactivation paperwork because the CI getting arrested without your, you know, while not doing something for you, that's a big violation.
So that's kind of the whole situation when it comes to CIs.
I kind of went in the weeds there, but I hope that answers it.
Yeah.
So uh okay, okay.
But all right, but in a situation like this, again, we're going off conspiracy theories.
They say back in the 90s and early 2000s, did he was a it wouldn't protect them.
It wouldn't protect them because what'll happen is let's say he does say I was a CI.
The first thing they're gonna ask is, who who did you work for?
Oh, I work for FBI.
Okay, who was your handler?
Uh This guy.
Okay, well, that agent doesn't work anymore, and you haven't been a CI in 20 years, 30 years.
It won't, it won't matter.
Okay, but do you think that would affect, though?
Like, for example, what people have noticed with this indictment, it starts at 2008, right?
Yep.
And a lot of people say, yo, where's the murders?
Where's the Tupac thing?
A lot of things that happen in the 90s, people are wondering why those things aren't charged.
And by the way, we're gonna talk about a criminal complaint next.
Um, because you know, or not a criminal complaint in the indictment, because the indictment is pretty, at least this first one is pretty bare bones.
Yep.
Um clearly look like they're seeking another one because we're hearing grand jury's still going on.
But still, uh do you think that if he was a CI at some point, maybe they're like, hey, listen, we don't we wouldn't even want this to come up in court to fuck up our situation.
If we have a continual um path of criminal behavior, let's start from the from the years that he clearly had zero association with the feds.
Do you think they might do that?
Or they're like, nah, fuck it, we're putting everything in, even if he was a working CI at that point or not.
Yeah, I mean, if it's a working CI, it'll give them a little bit more protection.
But if you're doing fuck shit, bro, especially a serious crime like this, it's not gonna protect you being a CI at all.
Yeah, okay.
Uh, the indictment.
Okay.
People have a lot of, you know, and by the way, Chad, we're gonna get to playing some of the the opinions of a lot of people in hip hop.
Dr. Umar says, what the hell?
Since when has been freaky a crime.
Um uh Boosie says this feels like it's just a trumped up way to try to take down a guy who was just freaking into threesomes.
Some other people are very surprised to say, well, if Cassie is the only victim, wow, think about this.
You like Wacklon Hunter has even gone to ask the question is like, did she really backdoor him in the sense of she demanded money privately, then filed a lawsuit, then got it settled, and then still went to the feds.
You get what I'm saying?
Meaning that maybe um if if there wasn't a financial incentive for Cassie, this wouldn't be that big of a deal.
And I I guess people are criticizing the indictment because we expected to see like 10 witnesses, or not 10 witnesses, but 10 victims, and be like, hey, he beat the shit out of her.
He got her beat by somebody else.
He she's sexual assaulted, she was sexually assaulted.
It seems primarily hinged on Cassie.
Thoughts about that?
Um, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm not surprised that they kind of got out uh a bare bone indictment um in the beginning.
Uh, you know, they're probably going they're going after someone that is obviously very affluent, has the ability to fight this case.
So they're gonna go with what they know.
They got them dead to rights, right?
So, um, and then also obviously the investigation is pending.
They're trying to flip people, they're trying to get more witnesses, etc.
So I definitely foresee that there's gonna be a superseding indictment.
I mean, hell, they found us uh uh an AR-15 with scratched off serial numbers uh at one of his houses.
They could charge him with that all day, 9218 USC 922 K, right?
So that's a federal charge right there that carries five five years just off of the serial number.
So um I do predict that they can go ahead and get uh uh superseding indictment, but I think that they're trying to elicit some cooperation and you know, not play all their cards yet, especially given since this guy has the ability to fight this case.
Hey, uh also as well in the indictment paperwork, they they provided some notice that there could be um matters or assets that could be forfeited under I forgot what the the statue is.
Is that normal?
We we usually hear about forfeiture in drug cases.
Normal, forfeiture in the free cough case.
Sorry about that.
The forfeiture in uh in a freak-off case you said?
Yeah, yeah, like usually when people hear about forfeitures like, yo, you've been transporting drugs in your Rolls Royce, you've been using this house as a stash house.
For sure.
Uh and you've damaged the community, you've you you you've, you know, there's a lot of damages from all the activity you had going on that was criminal.
We need to, you know, make people whole and we're gonna seize these assets um under the forfeiture law to kind of make that happen.
But in this case, you know, it's sex trafficking um obviously uh clearly a crime, but what why would forfeiture even be on a table?
Yeah, so if you have uh a structure or um a piece of property that was used to facilitate a crime, that that asset or whatever it is can now be forfeitable.
So I'll give you an example.
Let's say I'm a drug trafficker, right?
And I got three bank accounts, and one dollar of my drug proceeds goes into what the clean money.
Now all the clean money is forfeitable.
Or if I'm stashing drugs at my house or have stashed drug in my house, drugs in my house, now that house becomes forfeitable because it was used in a crime.
Same thing with these freak-offs were were conducted probably at locations that he owned.
Now those locations are forfeitable as well.
Because it was used, it was used to uh facilitate the crime.
I I've always heard that the forfeiture law is very um like people have mixed opinions about it, right?
Like, for example, I'll just make up a scenario.
Okay, Roger is got caught for selling dope, right?
He was selling dope.
Um and he was using one house as a stash house.
But the stash house is really owned by his grandma, who who supposedly didn't really know what he was doing.
She's had that house for three generations, passed from her grandmother or her mom and and her mom's mom, and now they're snatching an asset that is, you know, a family thing, and they're basically saying it's all for drugs, while the original owner, right, the grandma wasn't complicit in this or wasn't intricately involved.
So some people kind of feel like that's kind of unfair.
Yeah, so in that case, the government would have to prove that the rightful owner knew that it was being that criminal activity was being conducted at the residence.
So the keep going.
No, no, I was just gonna say, like, yeah, they would have to prove that, um, and then they'd be able to seize it.
But if if uh if they can't prove that the individual that rightfully owns it was facilitating, they they probably can't take it.
Hey, by the way, so uh the you know, full, you know, bail package, which was ultimately denied by the district judge.
And I'm shocked about that actually, that they denied it.
El Carter.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I was gonna ask you about in your time as a you know, agent.
Have you ever seen a bail package this complex, this um lavish, this, you know, this is an over-the-top attempt to get him out of jail.
Yep.
And I I guess, you know, obviously this will be more of a question for a Laura, but you you definitely have probably seen these cases a lot.
If they tend to turn down your either bail package or uh uh either deny you a bond initially once it gets to the district judge, do you think you'll get bail at all?
Um, in a lot of situations, the district judge ends up agreeing with the magistrate judge because the magistrate, and just for the audience so they understand.
So, guys, when Diddy was brought in front of a judge, who was brought in front of a magistrate judge, magistrate judges are kind of like a formality to get you into the system because they're like on duty, and whoever was on duty that day to take on, you know, for that week they got to do all initial appearances.
So it's kind of like you know, a luck of the draw.
Then that magistrate judge, once they read your rights and you know, get you into the proceedings, they assign you a district judge, and then the district judge is gonna be the one that actually presides over your case, etc.
Now, in most situations, the district judge does agree with the magistrate judge, but there are opportunities for the defense to make arguments as to why they want to get bonded.
Um, so in this case, you know, I will not lie.
This is an extraordinary bail package.
I have never seen something so extensive when it comes to putting up your assets.
Uh I've never seen something this big.
Um, and to be honest with you, I'm actually really surprised that he didn't get bonded.
I thought he was gonna get bonded because I from what I know, his defense team had been extremely cooperative with the feds.
But clearly the AUSA's office doesn't care.
They don't want him out.
Um, they argued against getting him out, as a matter of fact.
I think the reason why is probably because they found firearms at his house.
They found the AR-15 that had the scratch sale number, et cetera.
So uh, but I've never seen a package this extensive ever.
By the way, you know, it it looks like they were always gonna push for detention.
I think his lawyer was angling towards it.
Because they said um, remember the raid happened on, I believe, March, is it 16th or March 20th?
Some sometime, no, 25th, I believe.
That's when the uh search warrant was um was executed.
Yep.
They sent a letter to the AUSA, didn't get a response, but they also said, uh, hey, we have the counsel has taken his his um passports.
It felt like they were trying to offer the passports to the government.
The government just wasn't asking for it.
Like it didn't feel like they wanted to play ball.
So, you know, you know, his lawyer said something interesting, which I I'm I I don't know if if you would you would have the expertise to know about why uh or when or why and when the the arrest warrant would be executed, but he feels like they wanted to arrest him spontaneously rather than a mutually agreed time to turn himself in because it would make him look better in the eyes of the court for a possible release for Bond.
If the counsel, if lawyers are saying, yo, we got all of their passports, including his mom, all of the daughters, or you know, yeah, yeah, all of his daughters, and the feds doesn't say give us the passport, they essentially just allow the his lawyers to quote unquote have it and never take custody of it or never take control of it.
Maybe they kind of wanted to push for a detention, right?
Because they're they are still making the case for flight risk.
Yeah, yeah, no, uh, that's absolutely true.
I mean, they it didn't seem like they really wanted to play ball like that from looking at the emails and stuff.
I know that his legal team definitely had been cooperating, but you know, at the end of the day, the AOSA's office decides who they want to get out on bond and who doesn't.
I was actually surprised.
But um, now that we see what's going on, there's a very good chance that he might not get bonded at all.
So um, and that's kind of just how it is, which kind of sucks for Diddy, but I've never seen a bail package so extensive ever.
Yeah, they they have detailed here with all the emails, basically, like, you know, hey, following up from this email, we love to touch base.
Hey, you know, he's traveling from here to here.
Like that they're literally like offering up a lot.
Yep.
Um they went uh above and beyond.
And I and like I said before, the last time we spoke, they did this in anticipation that he was gonna be arrested and they wanted to angle for him to get bonded.
Do you think uh an appeal, you know, obviously they said they're going to the second circuit um courts, that they're gonna appeal this.
Do you think that if you're saying this is above and beyond, and obviously the guns are issue, right?
Okay, cool, they found the guns.
Um I think the witness um intimidation is the worst thing.
And now I'm gonna ask you this because you've always said this and I've gotten this from you.
You said the right to monitor one's phone calls is like the highest amount of um was it probable calls you would need to get that warrant to tap somebody's phone call.
Yeah.
They know of multiple attempts and calls that he made.
Oh, hey, he called Kalina 54 times after he got a new civil lawsuit last week.
I don't know if his phone is tapped, but it they they it seems like they know a lot.
Do you think they tapped his phone?
No, no, and and the reason why is because um for a case like this that's historical, um you know, they're investigating crimes that already occurred.
Uh you're not gonna be able to get the information uh that you need from wiretaps, and then on top of that, to do a wire.
Wait, wait, wait, what about maybe uh uh a confession, an admission?
Because I would think they would want to hear these conversations to maybe he's calling them and be like, hey, you remember that one rainy night when we was all on the yacht, and you know what I mean?
Like you had three dicks in your mouth and you was drenching baby wall.
Yo, I I know you was tripping in the morning, but you gotta tell him you were with it.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, I mean, he might say some things.
You know what I mean?
Might say some things that it'd be like, okay, so he he himself even is knowing that he was on some fuck shit.
You know, you get what I'm saying?
Okay, so we're at a crossroads here.
Do you want me to explain the process of getting a title three?
Because I if I explained to you the process to actually get a title three, it'll make a lot more sense as to why that probably wasn't what they did.
I I do want you to do, but I also want you to answer the question of um well the in a bail hearing, they have it so they have they have knowledge that he called 54 times.
Yep.
They have um other conversations, yep.
Even though they could have gotten those conversations from those people because they went to the eventually went to grand jury, clearly.
They testified from the grand jury.
Yep.
But they know a lot of his phone conversations.
They even they even cite him directly saying at one point, hey, I can't talk on the phone, my phone tapped.
Obviously, they're not gonna admit right now that uh they ever tap the phones, but how do you think they're getting these information?
They're not tapping the phones, and then of course you can explain on title three.
Go ahead.
Okay, uh, because the things that you're mentioning, which you're referring to phone frequency and contact, that can simply be done through a uh a subpoena.
You can just do a subpoena to ATT or whoever his phone carrier is, and they'll give you all the tolls.
And you can see that he called these individuals on these days this many times, or a pen register like before.
Um, so the things that you're saying that they're collecting, these are things that don't rise to the level of a title three.
Okay, okay.
All right, that makes sense.
Yeah, that does make sense.
Uh give you a full thing on how from A to Z, how what it takes to actually wiretap someone's phone if you want me to, but it that's up to you.
No, no, no.
Well, maybe you could do a little bit of a hybrid.
So let's you're you're backing your you know, agent shoes, you're you're doing um an investigation.
A guy kind of like feels like the feds are closing in a bit, so he's trying to tie up his loose ends.
How do you monitor that?
And and you know, uh like how do you juggle it both like three ways?
Like, how do you juggle it um by saying, Oh, we need to take this guy in custody now?
Because who knows, he might be reaching out to people who you're trying to flip.
You're trying to flip these people, he's reaching out to them, trying to offer whatever incentive, right?
He's um intimidating people, possibly.
You know that say you're working on a southern border, some of these people are prone to a lot of violence.
They might be like, yo, yo, if I if if you're talking to feds, I'll kill, I'll kill the shit out of you.
You get what I'm saying?
And also just it's at the point in the investigation where obviously like you have your evidence, which may be dated, but you are hoping this person fucks themselves.
You're hoping that for whatever reason they just get on the phone and just start ranting, or does does something now to basically verify your case that is based on on evidences that's from over like 15 years ago.
Okay.
I'm gonna answer this question.
I'm gonna give me one second.
I'm gonna take a quick piss and get an energy drink, and I'm gonna knock this out the fucking park for y'all.
All right, you give me one sec.
All right, it's all good.
Sorry.
All right, uh, chat.
While we wait for Mara to come back, hopefully you remember the question, but uh hopefully you got a nopad.
He always brand shit down.
Uh chat, yeah.
Uh I can't I can't call my boy because I don't know the nigga, but uh this is how MBC Brooklyn, you know, back in 2019, notoriously there was no heat, there was no um electricity.
Apparently, the inmates were in sub-zero temperatures for six days.
Um this was a really you know dire situation.
And um people have just said, like, for example, here, people have just said this is a really uh um horrific place to be.
Now, if if we're just expecting that Diddy's in the same type of place that every other inmates is gonna be, maybe just on an isolation like wing, he is going through it, right?
Uh also what we do have to get to.
Wait, actually, I got my little list here.
Chat, don't worry.
If you if you're rocking today, we're gonna be here for another at least five hours.
So don't you worry.
We'll like we'll cover all the Diddy stuff within the next two, and then we'll we'll rock out with another with a regular stream afterwards.
All right, I'm back at okay.
Did you do you remember the question?
Yeah, I do.
Um first it was what what do you do when you you're if you're listening to the phone and you hear him trying to intimidate witnesses or threatening violence, uh uh, etc.
And how do you operate?
So to get to that point, you actually have to be on something called a title three.
And a title three intercept is monitoring emails, phones, BBMs, etc.
Real time, and you're getting the content.
So when they get a text message, BMs uh blackberry shit, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
BBMs, exactly.
A lot of Mexican drug traffickers use use uh black berry messenger really big on the border, yeah.
Yeah, they do because it's one of the most secure phones.
Oh shit, Okay.
BBM.
All right.
Go ahead.
So yeah, a lot of a lot of the drug lords do it.
But um, so a title three is where you're my actively monitoring and collecting information from a device and you're getting the contents.
That's the most important thing.
You're not just monitoring it, you're getting the content.
So if I wiretap you, ACK, and someone sends you text message, I see that text message as well when you get it.
If someone calls you, I hear that phone call and I can listen to that phone call as you get it, right?
So that's a title three.
Now, how do you get a title three?
The title three intercept is the most invasive law enforcement technique there is in the United States of America, okay?
And it requires a lot.
I'm gonna kind of go through what what's required, and this is gonna answer a lot of your questions.
Step one, you're gonna need, and I'm I've never explained this before, so your audience is gonna get something fucking crazy right now.
I'm gonna go through how the feds do this shit because I've done it myself.
Step one, you're gonna need to do a pen register, okay?
And a pen register is a trap and trace.
That device, what it does is it um, oh shit, look at that picture.
What the fuck?
Yo, yo, I think he's pouring champagne, but you never know.
It might be, you know what I mean?
Um, carbonated baby oil.
You know what I'm saying?
Fuck, man, this dude.
Anyway, so step one is you're gonna get a pen register, aka a trap and trace.
That is a court order, right?
So for that, you don't need much, like reasonable suspicion, right?
So let's say I'm investigating you act, right?
Yeah.
For drug trafficking.
I know that you're committing the crimes, I've been watching on surveillance, et cetera.
And I I know some of your conspirators.
I put a pen register on your phone.
Now I'm seeing who's contacting you at certain times, right?
So when I'm watching you on surveillance, I know that you like to meet up with Tom on Tuesdays to pick up drugs.
So not only am I watching on surveillance, I'm also looking at your phone, who you're contacting, who you're texting, etc.
Again, it doesn't show me what you're doing, it just shows me frequency.
So when you're doing this, you're contacting these numbers.
I subpoena those numbers and I identify another three individuals, right?
That are involved in the drug trafficking because you're calling them when you pick up, you're calling them when you drop off, and you're calling them when you're driving home.
That's more than likely co-conspirators.
Then I get an informant in.
The informant talks to you and makes what's called dirty phone calls to you, right?
And you make he made we need two dirty phone calls.
Now, what we've effectively done is what hold on.
What would be what would constitute a quote unquote dirty phone call?
That is a phone call where the informant calls you and you guys are talking about criminal activity, whether it's drug trafficking, money laundering, etc.
So, and the reason why I do that is because I'm making the phone dirty, so now I can write start write pa writing paper on it.
So now I've established that your device is used to facilitate criminal activity.
Now I got my pen register, I got my dirty calls.
And I got my informant proving that the calls are dirty, right?
Because I have the record that I have the monitor phone calls where you guys are talking about criminal activity.
Now I start writing up my title three affidavit, right?
And that affidavit has to go from my supervisor all the way to United States attorney's office, and it's got to go through something called OEO, right?
And the Department of Justice.
Then it comes back and I got to take it to a district judge.
This is a whole bunch of fucking work, right?
Then after I get my title three signed, I gotta go and get interpreters to listen to the phone lines, and it's gonna cost me about $50,000 to listen to one phone for 30 days.
Now that's a lot of work, and on top of that, the reason why I know that more than likely they didn't they didn't do a title three in Diddy's case is because to listen to a phone, you need active criminal activity right then and there to be able to hear what they're talking about.
Now, let's go into a dream scenario and let's assume that they were listening to Diddy's phone, right?
Uh now that we know that it's highly improbable that he had the title three, let's go into let's say they did have the title three and they caught him intimidating witnesses on the phone.
They would be able to use that as a separate crime.
That he's calling individuals threatening them.
Now, if he actually makes a real threat where yo, I'm gonna kill you if you fucking talk blah blah blah, you have to go tell that individual, right?
Or or he, or let's say he threats to kill somebody, but uh with someone else on the phone, you have to go talk to the person whose life is in danger.
I tell him, look, we can't tell you how, but we know that your life's in danger.
You might want to leave town, right?
That's what they did with 6ix9ine.
When they brought 6ix9ine in after the Jim Jones call, we're gonna super violate him.
They told 6'9.
As you're mentioning this, yeah.
It is eerily yo chat.
I I'll give you a real quick story.
By the way, please save where you're at your explanation.
I just will give you a real quick story about the 6ix9ine thing.
So 6ix9ine goes to, I think like Dubai, and he didn't come back for a long time.
And I remember like people were like saying like he fired his team, something he was falling out with Shoddy.
And I remember I talked to him and he's like, yo, Ack, yo, bro.
Yo, shit has just changed.
And he said, yo, Ack, I'm gonna tell you something.
And shit is crazy.
I said, what do you mean?
What's going on?
Because I was also advocating.
I'm gonna tell you why.
I was advocating for his driver.
His driver was a very nice guy.
His driver was always the person when I went to a party, 6ix9ine be like, yo, so and so is coming to get you at the front.
Like he always, the driver was almost like the the runner.
So when the driver got got um fired, the driver called me.
And it was basically one of those calls to be like, yeah, I don't know, 6ix9ine, he's changed up on me.
Um I know you're friends with him.
Like, could you like and basically was kind of asking me to like talk to 6ix9ine to get him rehired, and I was just like, Yeah, I'm a good guy.
Like, you've been pretty good to me.
I talked to 6ix9ine if he's tripping out.
Let me tell this nigga to calm down.
I call him and I say, Yo, bro, why you fire your fucking driver?
He said, Yo, he said, that guy's an informant.
And I remember I I think I got like probably pale because everything I I remember talking to the driver about.
By the way, the driver was an informant.
The driver was the one who had a car bugged.
The driver was indeed an informant.
Yep.
The driver called me.
I remember talking to him.
Everything he was saying to me.
Hold on.
When he bugged the car, that was a title three, bro.
Yeah, well, that's what I'm trying to say.
Yeah.
So I get I don't know how 6ix9ine found out, but he but he but he stopped working with him during the investigation.
And the driver, I guarantee that call, the feds got that call somewhere where the driver calls me and is telling me a version of the story for me to go hit 6ix9ine up to bring him back into the fold.
6ix9ine tells me he's an informant.
I'm like, yo, bro, you're bugging the fuck.
Like, what 6ix9ine told me, I thought I thought it was Lyme, like, yo, you're bugging out, but at least I'm like, Feds?
He's like, you know, that guy's an informant.
Wait, let me ask you a question real quick.
Because I want to make sure I'm accurate about this.
Was the car did the car belong to him?
The car belonged to the driver.
Okay, never mind.
It wasn't a title three then.
They just bugged up his car.
And that's a con that's called a uh conceptual recording.
Because since it was his car and uh he owns it, he can and he's cooperating with the government.
He could put camera, he could put uh cameras and and uh audio in there without a title three.
It's a title three if they don't if no party knows that they're being recorded.
That was just a concession moderate one.
My bad.
But there was definitely title three shit going on because there were multiple recordings I got played later in court.
Yeah.
And they had uh they had the main guy's uh fucking phone tapped.
Um uh um, oh my god.
Well, Jamel, his name was Jamel Some.
Mel Murder's phone was tapped.
Yes, Murder, they had him.
I I believe a bunch of 6ix9ine phones were probably tapped too.
Because I ain't gonna lie, 6ix9ine was pretty high at that time.
What I mean, hot, like, yo, he's the type of nigga, like, I mean, he wouldn't say it to me, but he's the type of nigga get on the phone and be like, yo, wait, what trippy say online?
Man, shoot that nigga.
Like, he's that type of nigga.
Like, he was, he was, he would just say it.
You know what I mean?
He's not the coded guy.
Like, he's like, yo, yo, we'll boom at that nigga, like, you know, like he's that type of nigga, right?
So, like, I could imagine they were probably they were licking their chops listening to 6ix9ine on the phone.
Like, that nigga was just on the phone wilding.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So definitely there was there was there was title three.
There was a guy that used to work for TMZ.
I don't know if he does anymore.
He used to call me.
Uh-huh.
6ix9ine used to leak shit to him to TMZ.
Yeah.
Um, and he he told me, and he said, yo, they got word from like the TMZ sources that there was uh like this investigation.
And I remember he said to me, He said, Yo, Ack, I'm gonna be honest with you, from what I've heard, Danny's definitely on some wiretaps, and I know you talked to him, and I talked to him.
Like, well, obviously, we don't talk to him about crime, but it's like, yo, I guarantee we're on some wiretaps somewhere.
And I was like, oh shit.
I ain't gonna lie, I started.
Well, I I've never been happier that I don't talk about crime or do crime.
You know what I mean?
But yeah, all right, go back to your story.
Okay.
I was just saying, in that situation, they had an informant, and I think the informant kind of validated everything that could lead to them getting a warrant.
Because that was a driver who 6ix9ine would have bring other people around who would probably be in the car talking crazy to other niggas about crime, and they probably be like, well, this informant is corroborated that this guy's making quote unquote dirty calls.
Let's get this title three shit going on.
There's they're doing this shit now.
This is in real time.
Yeah.
And yeah.
I I know for a fact they had um Mel Murder's phone tapped.
I know that for a fact.
And normally the way title threes go, just cause uh like I just explained to you guys how um how hard it's to get a title three.
Since it's so difficult to get one, you typically reserve it for like the top targets.
Obviously, in the beginning of an investigation, you have to work your way up, but your goal is to get to the top phone.
So I doubt that they were tapping Mel Murder's phone and had a title three going on on Takashi at the same time, because um, I I don't know if they I I don't know.
I'd have to look at the discovery, but I don't think they had Takashi's phone tap because he incriminated himself so much and they had a debt to rights and he flipped.
But anyway, the the to go back to what you're saying.
So now that we established.
Oh no, no, no, I'm sorry, let me add one more thing.
Yeah, go ahead.
They had Shoddy's phone tapped too.
That makes sense.
Because he was high-reaking.
Yeah, according to 6ix9ine.
If they had Shoddy's phone tap, they don't need 6ix9ine's phone.
Well, well, well, I guess 6ix9ine was like he was probably the easiest person to get tapped.
Well, I don't know, who knows?
I I didn't never heard anything about 6ix9ine's phone getting top because he cooperated.
So they didn't have to use those evidence.
I wouldn't uh like I would if I had Shoddy's phone, there's no point to write paper for Takashi's phone.
Because with Shoddy So when they bring in 6ix9ine on uh who am I forgetting the dates now?
November 18th, 2018.
Yep.
I was I always remember arrest dates.
Yep.
I remember they bring him in on they bring him in on that uh like two days before they say, Hey, listen, we have gotten information that somebody's gonna try to kill you.
Yep.
Do you want us to protect you?
He said, nah, I'm good.
He leaves.
And I told you he was gonna go to the casino.
That's he was going to Mohegan's son.
That's why they they stopped him.
Now, the only thing I'm unclear about, be because when I talked to 6ix9ine, I think that's the they they were looking at him as a potential target to flip.
According to what he told me, and we talked offline about this a lot.
Oh, yeah, I told you he was the the guy they wanted to flip the whole time.
Cause I I don't know if you want me to explain it again, like where he was in the hierarchy, why he was so valuable.
But I'll I'll let you finish then if you want me to explain that I can.
W well, they played him audio of Shoddy supposedly talking to his girl and basically almost like corroborating that I I forgot if it was his girl or tw to the other guys, but he somehow said, like, yeah, mess with his girl.
That was enough for 6ix9ine to be like, Oh, okay, if this goes down, I'm I'm flipping.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, so like Smith That's a dirty game.
And by the way, obviously that's not what Wiretaps are for.
It's supposed to be criminal activity, but throughout the mix of whatever they've they recorded legally or or kept legally, um, they had enough to to to play for him and say, hey, listen, just to let you know, these are the guys who are your brothers.
Yeah.
6ix9ine says fuck that I'm telling.
Yeah.
That's a successful flip right there, right?
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
I uh, you know, um that's a dirty game too, though.
Hey, I'm listening to your phone call for for criminal activity, but I hear that you've been fucking your your other homie's girl.
Now I get to use that info to fuck with his mind that he s flips on you.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
And and you know, and and and I can talk about that a little bit.
So when you're monitoring a phone, you have about 30 seconds to listen, and if it's not pertinent criminal activity, you can't use it, right?
You can't use it like from a criminal standpoint.
But that doesn't mean that you can't use it to flip an informant, though.
You might not be able to bring it in court on an admissibility uh admissibility situation, but you can absolutely use it to create an informant for sure.
So um but according to 6.9 what he told me, he said he heard wiretap that heavily influenced what he was going to do.
Heavily.
Yep.
Like he said he was in disbelief until they played other people's recordings of people he thought he was friends or who was dealing with, and he it made him now feel like, well, they're not my friends.
So now when the feds say, Hey, we have a situation where you could cooperate, he says, all in.
Yeah, Yeah, no, of course.
Um, and they probably showed him all the evidence they had against him.
Like it was, you know, it was just overwhelming, and he's gonna decide.
But to finish uh what we're saying.
So we talked about what it takes to get a wiretap.
Now we're talking about um intimidating witnesses.
Yeah, they're gonna absolutely you know use that against them for a charge.
Then if he goes, if they're able to, um, then the next thing is if he threatens someone's life, then they're gonna go tell that person that's how we got ended up with the 6ix9ine story.
And then there was one more scenario that you asked me about with a wiretap if they hear it.
Um help me out, help me out, help me out.
Those three scenarios you gave, trying to remember what the last one was.
Help me out.
Yo, the chat better like this goddamn video, bro.
We're giving him so much sauce right now.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone explain how a wiretap works in the federal system.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that shit.
So these dudes need to subscribe to you and like the video and cheer some bits and everything else.
And by the way, no, no, you know, you know, they're definitely supporting we we have uh so many people who are just fascinated by the case, but also the the process of this, right?
Because you know, you know, just a month ago, there were people just saying, yo, there's nothing, like why do we keep talking about this?
Nothing has come out of it.
And obviously, there were all this was all happening in the background.
What you're doing is given the context of what's happening.
Imagine if there was a title three, let's just suppose, right?
You just explain how laborious it would be to even get to the point of getting that, how much money, how much resources.
I think we spoke about like how much this investigation will cost.
And this is a historical case, too.
That's the big one.
Since it's a historical case and they gotta go back, and it's really dependent on uh witness testimony, he they just probably wouldn't be able to get the probable cause required to get up on a phone line and listen to him actively, if that makes sense.
So, um, wow, yeah.
So uh I I forgot the question about wiretap.
Uh, but what I will say is it'll come back.
I I want you to react to this.
So, chat, check this out.
Um, obviously, I you know, just more sources, and I don't know if people feel a little bit more brave because he's incarcerated, but New York Post, and you know, usually they're uh I won't say all the way right or always right, but they do have a good um high accuracy rate with them using sources, right?
Yeah, they know they know people who are former law enforcement, or sometimes they know people, you know, will just come forward to them rather than other outlets.
They ran a story to say inside Sean Diddy Combs Hampton sex parties featuring gay rappers who was high on ketamine.
And um, it says jailed hip hop mogul Sean Diddy Combs alleged freak-off party, stunned one drug dealer after he saw household celebrities having sex with each other.
The dealer said Diddy opened the door to his former Hamptons mansion.
By the way, chat, we have to think about the Hamptons.
The Hamptons are the place of usually the rich and famous.
When you think about the now white parties with uh Michael Rubin, Hamptons, for whatever reasons, the Hamptons is like the place where rich, famous celebrities go to unwind, right?
And it doesn't mean always sexually, but Jay-Z is out there.
You'll see Jack Dorsey.
You'll see them just walking down the street.
You'll see, you know, um Leonard Leonardo DiCaprio.
I don't know why, but that's the place.
Anyway, uh, Diddy used to throw white parties.
I don't know if you guys know, like Diddy's the original provocator of the the um white parties that now seemingly is taken over by Michael Rubin.
This is why I call him the white Diddy.
Now, this is supposedly a drug dealer who popped in.
They said this guy went to the former Hamptons mansion, did he open a door, he was wearing nothing but a robe.
And he brought him to a back bedroom to do a cocaine deal.
This is what the guy is saying.
He says weird shit was starting to happen.
Celebrity guys fucking each other.
They were back bedrooms, and it was like an inner sanctum.
Um, by the way, you know, I do want to pause and ask Myron the question because I've seen WAC made this point, and I've seen um Umar made this point.
What's the difference between because some people are saying, yo, he's being charged for being a freak.
What's the difference between freaky and sex trafficking?
Because also, here's the thing too.
Yeah, the thousand bottles of baby oil, people are torn on it.
It makes for great headlines.
But people are saying, wait, owning baby oil, it like what why are you acting like this is a thousand kilos of Coke?
Yeah.
Um, so there's a couple of things why they're going after Diddy here.
Um, the main thing is, and what this is what the uh government's gonna argue that The sex wasn't consensual because of the witnesses or the witnesses' fear that they would deal with severe consequences had they not participated.
Which obviously I predict Diddy's team is gonna fight and say this was all consensual.
They traveled across country to see this man.
He will fly them in.
They didn't have to come, they didn't have to do these sexual acts.
They don't have to participate.
They didn't have to keep traveling with him for days or weeks on end.
That's more than likely what his defense is gonna do.
They're gonna argue that all this was consensual, and the beatings and the fear and all this other shit are bullshit, right?
That's what they're gonna say.
But where the government is gonna get him is that some of these girls, girl or girls, I don't know how many wit victims they have here, were underage.
Which in that case is game over.
It doesn't matter if it was consensual.
Okay, so you know, that's what people also pointed out.
And by the way, his lawyers been using that.
But he says, at least in the initial indictment, there isn't any indication that there's underage women.
And he actually took offense to Diddy's case being related to R. Kelly's case and of course Jeffrey Epstein's case, both in which there were underage victims who are unable to give consent, so automatically any sexual activity, um, and transporting them from state to state just initially falls into sex trafficking.
Um, if you're if you're an agent investigating this case, and you're starting to see you're dealing with a celebrity, right?
So put your put your um, you know, um your agent hat on again.
Sure.
What are you looking at to see if it fits under sex trafficking versus hey, these were willing participants who are just freaky like Diddy?
Like, what are the things you're looking at?
This is a fucking great question, bro, because it's gonna allow me to call it.
You have to manage that there are civil suits, so people, there's a financial incentive.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Um, so this is a fucking great ass question, bro.
So here's the thing when it comes to human trafficking, and I and I really want to explain this to the audience.
There's a difference between human trafficking and human smuggling.
And the problem is that people constantly uh people constantly forget that they're two different crimes, right?
So what ends up happening a lot of times is human trafficking gets conflated with human smuggling.
Human smuggling is the illegal.
Oh, you good.
Okay.
No, no, no, go ahead, go ahead.
I'm gonna play the video in the background.
Yeah, you good, you good, you're good.
Um human smuggling is the illegal migration of illegal aliens into the United States, right, that are immigrants or uh illegal aliens and whatever, right?
That's human smuggling.
They typically pay a fee and they come in.
Human trafficking is the forced labor of an individual or moving them around for some type of benefit to the person where the other person does it get, right?
There's different elements to the crime, right?
Under duress, can't leave, etc.
All this other stuff.
That's the two main things.
Now, what happens a lot of times is people think that prostitution rings are human trafficking rings.
What the reality is it's just prostitutes that work with a pimp and they got mad at their pimp and said I'm being human trafficked.
Then when the you know feds actually show up and ask questions, they're like, no, I was just mad at him.
It wasn't really human trafficking, he didn't pay me and I was pissed off.
It's not human trafficking, right?
Because they were doing it electively.
So I say all that to say that human trafficking isn't easy to prove.
It's actually a pretty hard charge to prove because you need to prove that it was against their will.
And I predict that his defense team is gonna use the fact that it was consensual and they made overt attempts to engage in the set acts when they didn't have to.
Now, where they're gonna uh where the feds are gonna come in, and this is why feds typically take human trafficking cases in the first place, is when underage girls are involved, because it makes it a lot easier for them to prove their case because even if the girl was uh was consensual to it, it doesn't matter.
The girl can't consent, so therefore it's human trafficking automatically.
Okay.
So you know what?
So, and I know some people are like, yo, thank God Act moved off of the Drake and Kendrick stuff, but a lot of times when people think about trafficking, we think about like containers, like yo, you're locked against you.
I heard someone say, bro, y'all gotta come with better, you know, like if you're saying trafficking or sex trafficking, y'all can't just say baby wall.
Where's the handcuffs?
Where are the where are these physical things that show that people could have not left, walked out the door.
Hey, oh, y'all about to have a uh uh five niggas and two girls all fucking goodbye.
In your experience, is that just a fallacy that sex trafficking or human trafficking?
Well, well, let's say sex trafficking is like people locked in vans and traveled across, because I know Diddy's lawyers are gonna make the point that wait, how is Cassie track trafficking?
Number one, she was flying around in private jets.
Yeah.
What who gets trafficked getting on a private jet?
Also, and and I feel like I keep giving you multi-part uh questions for explain.
No worries, but this is gonna be another part of it.
Allegedly, Diddy had Cassie book a lot of the escorts.
So maybe her credit card.
I don't know if I don't know if you pay for escorts or credit card.
However, she was paying for them or soliciting those people, emails, hitting up an agency calling.
She was doing it.
Wasn't Diddy saying, hey, give me three niggas with long dicks, pause.
Even though she said in her civil suit he would he would instruct her to whoop that's that seems like hearsay, unless there's like written in the text or something.
And also, uh, how do we know that she's not just throwing it on him?
Is that a valid defense?
No, uh, and you best believe that um I guarantee Cassie is probably a witness in this investigation.
And real quick, I just want to tell everybody that's watching me, guys.
I'm gonna get off Twitch, I'm gonna be on YouTube and Rumble.
So come on over to YouTube or Rumble, guys.
I'm gonna get off my uh Twitch stream.
Fresh is gonna go stream with Faye.
So that's what's gonna be going on on her Twitch channel, so I'm gonna get off.
Um okay, sorry about that.
Um, he's over at TwitchCon, bro.
You should have gone too.
But uh to answer your question uh with Cassie, okay.
So I'm pretty confident that she's probably a government witness at this point.
However, I anticipate that one of Diddy's defenses, I'm glad they were having this conversation, he is probably gonna have receipts and proof that she aided him in facilitating these sex parties.
They were together for so goddamn long, he probably has some dirt on her too to show that she was involved as well with helping him set this shit up.
Because make no mistake about it, she was, you know, when he was sitting there watching her get plowed by other guys or whatever, it was consensual a lot of the times.
Was it every single time?
Maybe not, but there was a lot of consensual fuckery going on too.
Okay, is it possible?
And and now we're into the woods.
But but but again, I I want you now, as you know, as an agent, um, to think about it like that.
Well, if you're saying this is against her will, well, there were many other men that were either being paid or or involved.
Diddy wasn't the only person having sex with her.
Why aren't they charged?
If everything is against this, because again, we keep seeing, at least right now for the indictment, we see this one victim, which is Cassie.
If if you're saying all the sexual conduct was against her will, why aren't the prostitutes charged?
Why aren't other people charged and just Diddy, unless unless you're saying Diddy had everybody doing it against everybody's will, and why aren't they elicited as victims?
Yeah, and and and that's I anticipate that the defense is gonna be getting witnesses that will support Diddy.
The defense is gonna have you know people that can prove that it was all consensual, and I think that's gonna be what they do.
Their main defense is gonna be that this was sexual.
They're gonna pull out receipts showing that Diddy might have paid for them, but they travel from across the country to come see him, etc.
etc.
Um, they're gonna implicate, they're gonna the other thing the defense is gonna do, which I'm glad we're having this conversation, they're gonna attack the credibility of all the witnesses in this case to show that they have maybe financial incentives to come after them.
They had professional uh incentives to come after them, they had revenge incentives to come after them.
They're gonna paint, they're gonna attack every single one of the government's witnesses with some type of nefarious purpose as to why they're cooperating with the government to include Cassie.
Um, and you know, I'm sure Diddy probably has some receipts and video that shows that some of this stuff was consensual, etc.
So it'll be interesting to see the defense that his uh team is gonna put put up uh put together.
Okay, would this be on an agent side or AUSA side?
So I'm now starting to believe as this is shaping up, the main victim clearly seems to be Cassie.
They haven't listed her by name, but they have listed actions with someone they call victim one.
It clearly, you know, um describes Cassie directly, if you ask me from the The kid cuddy thing that we've heard from before from the um, you know, the jealousy, some of the dates, and obviously the the infamous video that was um in 2016 where there was an assault caught on camera.
Let me ask you this question, right?
So if she's the main victim of all of this, yeah, right, and she's not seen as a uh a perpetrator, um isn't this almost like a hearsay type of situation, right?
Like, you know, I mean, if if he has some stuff that could say, yo, she kind of was with it, like and also, oh, and also um these other cases, right?
You know, and by the way, we're watching a like there's a video of like a quote unquote Diddy party where we see fabulous and we see Trey Songs and you know, Kevin Hart's like narrating the these other people who are like ancillary to the situation and all of these um uh other lawsuits, why not go get them?
Doesn't it make the case look weaker if they're not involved?
Uh and I think that's where Diddy's gonna come in.
I think he's gonna come in.
Diddy's job on this situation is what he's gonna do is he's gonna try to show that this was consensual.
He's gonna show other people that were involved, and he's gonna identify other conspirators.
And I think that's gonna be his defense strategy.
Attack the credibility of the witnesses, identify other individuals, and um present evidence that shows that um other individuals were also involved with facilitating this.
I I think that's what his game plan is gonna be.
And you know, I've I've heard people mention Trey Song's name and not to throw him into the fire or anything like that, but um obviously there wouldn't be no name as an entertainer that's bigger than Diddy.
And when people think about there's bigger fish, they're thinking about possibly executives of course people have mentioned a few names like Clive Davis and you know, other people, so some of them who unfortunately have even passed away, uh, who may have enabled or put him on to game to some of the this behavior.
Do you it, you know, Trey Songs has a bunch of you know civil cases, nothing criminal.
Yep.
Do you think maybe they look at Diddy and be like, yo, if you could corroborate or help us get an investigation on this nigga going on, we might give you a little bit.
Yeah, no, I think it's possible if he can give them other names of big individuals that would bring the US United States attorney's office some positive press, I think they can do it.
Um they can give him a proffer, right?
And uh or a 5k letters, a safety valve, whatever you want to call, they're all basically the same thing, quick king for a day, queen for a day, you know, and uh he can provide some information with his lawyer there and not be prosecuted for it.
And uh if you provide substantial assistance at least to an arrest or you know, um advancement of the investigation, they'll definitely give him some time off.
Okay.
How would you play it if or all right?
Say you're the agent.
Would you would you have talked to young Miami?
Yes.
She's made some tweets that have seemingly corroborated some of these freak-offs.
Yo, if you know, if I wanted Diddy could have you, you know, I mean, sucking dick on your knees or whatever the case is, like eating my pussy.
Like she made a couple of those tweets.
Yep.
Um what would you do as an agent?
Would you threaten her with maybe charging her to get cooperation, or you would just, you know, maybe just calling her in.
She knows what it is.
And bro, I'd be at her front door like fucking Domino's Pizza, bro.
I'd I'd be I'd be there.
I'd go and talk to her, let her know, look, we got some questions.
We don't want you to get wrapped up in this.
We want to hear your side, blah, blah, blah.
Get her to talk and see what happens.
And the beauty here, going back to that Miranda discussion, me and you had earlier, I don't really have to mirandize her when I'm just doing like a knock-in talk, right?
Unless I'm like overtly asking her questions and she doesn't feel free to leave.
Like, I don't really have to memorize her in that situation, right?
Um, so I would definitely be talking to her.
Um, another person I would talk to, I'll go talk to 50 Cent.
I will I'll go like if I there's people that I know that like don't like Diddy, even though that this might be biased, I'll go talk to them too, right?
Just to kind of see.
Um, if I'm trying to build a case, like uh a lot of the times enemies have the best evidence, right?
But the thing is when you deal With someone that's biased like that, right?
Let's say I go talk to 50 Cent and he tells me XYZ.
I'm like, all right, cool.
You have proof of that.
Can you give me corroborating evidence of what you have?
Do you have footage of maybe one of these freak-offs?
Do you have text messages or video from someone else that you know that has been to these freak-offs?
Because anytime you deal with a witness, I mean this goes for all witnesses, but especially biased ones, you want to always have corroborating evidence that independently stands on its own that builds credibility for the witness.
So, like, for example, I go to 50 Cent, right?
I know he hates Diddy and he has an axe grind.
Yo, can you tell me about Diddy?
Oh, I hate that motherfucker.
He, you know, grapes girls and he does this, and you know, he deals with young girls and all this other shit.
I'm like, all right, cool.
That's great information, but do you have proof?
Yeah, let me show you uh this this uh the sex message throughout a guy here.
Let me uh show you this video, blah, blah, blah.
Bam.
Now everything that he told me, he is a credible witness now because he gave me independent evidence that proves what he's saying is true, and he it doesn't and it's not just an axe to grind, if that makes sense.
So how dirty could this get?
Because for example, what people have pointed out is this mad nigga's quiet, right?
Like, yeah, yo, yo, listen.
I mean, I I heard Fab on a recent song, but Fab ain't saying nothing.
Um, Meek Mill right now, the only thing he's saying is he's just trying to like, you know, shuring up his sexualities, like I'm from the trenches, find a video of me doing gay stuff.
But he's not speaking on someone who, you know, think about these celebrities that attended the party.
If you're an agent, do you play this dirty game?
Even if maybe some some people might know information but never really participate, do you almost pull up on them and say, hey, listen, we might be looking to charge you as well based on what we know.
Just feed them full false information that it could be truthful.
And hey, your name might be in that indictment with Diddy as a defendant, unless just tell me everything you know, tell me the world the worst things you ever seen about him.
And um that could probably uh aim us in the right direction, or maybe if you have a video or incriminating video, whatever, that could really help us really do our thing.
Yeah, no, you can absolutely do that.
I think it's very important that I let your audience know this for their own protection too.
Guys, the police can lie to you, okay?
Um can absolutely lie to you.
So um that's something that people need to understand, know, and uh kind of have in the back of their mind anytime they're talking about law enforcement.
So, you know, sometimes they're bluffing, hey, we can charge you with XYZ, um, and they can and you know, and they can't actually do it.
And there's other times where they'll tell you, yeah, we could charge you XYZ and they can do it.
So it's kind of on you to, you know, understand when you can tell what you're involved and what you're not involved in, what they're lying about, what they're not lying about.
But yeah, they can obviously go to people like Young Miami or something like that, someone that was kind of close to the criminal activity and threaten to indict them as well if they don't cooperate.
Okay, we've heard about a few things.
I'm wondering why there aren't charges now.
Not saying they won't come later.
If Diddy supposedly held footages, and there's one report, um, you know, there's one report, and chat we're gonna get to that.
It's a New York uh post article where there was a federal source who supposedly claimed they were they had some you know knowledge of the investigation, and they claim that, you know, some of the surveillance footage that they got and what they found in some of the raids is that some rooms were strictly meant for sexual activity, and that there were, you know, angles and ways that people were being filmed that they definitely would not know they were being filmed from.
Yeah.
Well, when you think about that, that sounds like a serious charge already.
If if you're filming sexual activity, even if it's consensual, but the the the and I'll and maybe that's a state thing.
I don't know how the federal government sees it.
It's like it's like when you you record someone's phone call, right?
In certain places, it it's a one-party consent.
Um, in certain places it's two-party.
You need both people to consent to it.
Yeah.
But it again, I'm pretty sure filming someone sexually, um, but that also might be a little bit different because if it's within his residence, what I've learned is that supposedly, as long as you're not using it for blackmail or you're not putting it out, that might not be legal.
How do you treat that situation?
Because we keep hearing about there might be video proof of the freak-off, but we're not seeing charges that essentially charge this guy with filming supposed non-consensual sexual activity.
Yeah, no, that's a good question.
Um, and I think the reason why you're not seeing federal charges for that is because if they're minors, right?
Because child porn is usually a really that's the one that, you know what I mean?
Yeah, so if if if they're underage, that's a different game.
Now the feds can come in.
But if it's adults, um consensual sex between two adults, it's it's gonna pretty much go to the state.
You know, hell, even if it was, yeah, it's gonna go, it's gonna more than likely go to the state.
But um that that's probably why they're not charging.
And the other thing too, is you know, Diddy can make the the claim that everyone that came into my house knows that I record everything.
A lot of these artists, a lot of these, you know, wealthy people, they make these women sign NDAs when they show up.
So in the NDA, it might say, hey, I have a right to record every single part of the house, and you you're gonna be under under surveillance.
So, you know, that's another way to kind of get around it.
But I think the reason why it's not being raised to a federal issue is because typically uh voyeurism or recording people during sexual acts is like a state thing, because some states are one party, some states are two party, et cetera.
It's not really a federal issue unless like children are involved.
Yeah, chat.
Uh this was one of the infamous Diddy parties from six years ago.
I can't uh this might have been his 50th birthday, right?
Like if this is what year is this?
This is 2018.
Yeah, this is 2018.
How he's like 59, right?
Yeah, Diddy's he's no, he's 54.
He was born in 1969.
So he's actually he's turning 55 this year.
That would have been like his 49th birthday.
Yeah, that would be like his 49th or 50th birthday, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Again, obviously, and not thinking, you know, a lot of people are misinformed about his freak-off shit.
He's like, these aren't the freak-offs.
This is just a regular over-the-top party that's sponsored by Sirack.
Yeah.
The freak-off is like, you know, yo, it's like baby all central.
If if niggas ain't like, you know, you you ever slip down a bowl uh a bowling um aisle?
If if it ain't going like that, a thousand bottles, come on.
Yeah, bro.
Uh hey, by the way, you uh on this, we don't know if you know, again, this is New York Post.
I did want to point this one part out.
And we still haven't seen this in the indictment.
Uh this is what the source said, right?
The source said that you and I'm gonna read it.
You see two people you wouldn't think of be hooking up rappers.
That was what shocked me, the dealer told the post.
I won't say names, but they were rappers that I immediately lost respect for and could not take them serious ever again.
The the people uh the drug peddler uh uh added that many people at the party, which included a mix of female rappers and hookers, were already high on ketamine and GHB.
That's this is a very interesting point that I've heard um many people repeat.
But how do you prove this 20 years later?
They're saying Diddy had these parties and he drugged drinks.
Now, if there's no no toxicology reporter, there's no like is that hearsay?
Like how how can we prove that Diddy was spiking drinks?
Yeah, um that that's gonna be a piece of evidence that uh, and that's a great thing that you pose, right?
And this is also where his defense can kind of come in and fight this.
Um a thing, uh uh a fact like that is gonna be heavily reliant upon other witnesses corroborating it, right?
So, what more than likely happened is the HSI special agents spoke to a bunch of different people that attend these parties.
And each of them, right?
Remember, you're interviewing each of them at different times.
So one day you interview witness one, another day you interview witness two, another day you interview witness four, five, three, whatever the fuck it is, right?
And if all of them say, yo, when I was there, this dude had GHB and cocaine, et cetera, and they all corroborated it independently, right?
Because again, they don't know that the fact that you spoke to the other individual, they're just telling you what they saw, then that adds credence and credibility to each witness because they've all independently corroborated the same facts.
So that's how you kind of get around the whole was he in possession of drugs or not, because you got a bunch of witnesses saying that the same exact drugs were there.
By the way, also this article leads with the headline that says featuring gay rappers, but we're we're not hearing men.
I mean, there's some guys that obviously Lil Rod is saying he was sexually assaulted, but like he never said he got penetrated.
We're we're not hearing men saying that they were, you know, like penetrated by Diddy, and I'm not I'm not shooting in no bail, but we just like we're we've always heard the rumors of gay shit with Diddy.
We we're not seeing it though.
Like, honestly, we're not seeing the men, and it might be the men are just not making the allegations, right?
Like or or the hiding and they don't want to go public yet because it's so embarrassing.
That's another option, too.
They might have testified at the grand jury, right?
But they're not like going public uh like you know, public to the to the general public.
But um, you know, when when uh Diddy's defense attorneys, which I'm assuming, I'm sure by now they probably have a majority of the discovery.
Um, Diddy's team is gonna look through and say, Wait, wait, do you think they've got it already?
Yeah, they're supposed to have a pretrial conference on 24th.
They they probably have a significant amount of the discovery already guaranteed.
Because, like I said before, um when I when I'm going into the grand jury room to testify, my AUSA already has all the documents she needs or he needs for trial, pretty much.
A lot of AUSAs don't like to indict until they got like damn near 80% of the stuff they need for trial.
So they've probably already started the discovery process, and Diddy's defense team probably already has a significant amount of it.
Hey, by the way, uh Chad, I'll I'll read another this other article, which again, New York Post, they have these sources.
This one happens to be uh it says, and let me read this.
I want to hear your reaction to it.
One of the Department of Homeland Security agents who helped to raid Diddy's Florida abode, claimed the music mogul had rooms that were clearly dedicated to sex with all cameras around.
So if you were in the sex party, this is a direct quote, you were being recorded from every possible angle, including angles you wouldn't even have known about, the source said.
Referring to the sometimes day-long or geez he called free costs, where drugged up victims were allegedly forced to have sex with male prostitutes.
Uh it says, and this is an agent again, in my opinion, he's as bad as Jeffrey Epstein, the source added about the late pedophile who hung himself behind bars.
It says these women are young, either barely legal or barely illegal.
Internally, officers said that they see a lot of similarities between Combs and Epstein, the well-connected financier who served time for trafficking dozens of girls in New York and Florida.
Epstein was awaiting trial on additional charges, but he died in his jail cell in 2019.
Yeah, what fucked Epstein up was that all the girls were underage.
That's what fucked Epstein up.
What do you think would have happened if maybe they weren't?
Probably uh a very weak case.
Really?
Yeah, very weak case, yeah.
Because he was flying these chicks around to like keep in mind, he had plenty of homes.
He had homes in he had West Palm Beach, he had a huge place in New Mexico, he had obviously his infamous house in New York City.
Um, like he had the island, etc.
So he was flying these girls all around on his private jets and shit like that.
So if they were adults, bro, uh he would have been able to have a pretty strong defense that it was consensual.
But what fucked Epstein up is that he recruited young girls, it kind of groomed them when they were young to like fuck his rich and powerful friends, and that's what got him jacked up is dealing with making uh dealing with underage girls.
And that's what gives people it gives the feds jurisdiction a lot of times, is the girls are underage and they're being transported interstate.
But I got like a minute, bro, and then I got to get off because fresh wants to stream and he's complaining.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Uh chat, any any questions for Myron?
Um, by the way, definitely anytime you uh hop on my stream when we're talking about shit like this, you always give so so much valuable information.
Absolutely, bro.
I I love it, man.
Like I said, if if it wasn't for, you know, um doing a podcast and shit like that, bro.
I would have never left and resigned.
It was literally one of the best jobs ever.
It was fun.
And I'm very passionate about it.
I'm sure you guys could tell from the way I speak about it.
But the reason why I know all this shit is because like, you know, I worked really hard when I was an agent, so like I got to learn all this shit through experience.
Okay, one last question, it's still multi-parted.
Uh this question I really have, I have it written down that I'll eventually ask Bradford Cohen, a very notorious uh defense attorney, but I do want to hear your take on it.
Sure.
So, you know, um on a lawyer legal side of it, you know, you have civil complaints and then you have a criminal.
Clearly, the criminal is gonna be the most important thing.
It's a reason why he's locked up.
Yep.
You know, a civil case can be drawn out four years, or it could even be just waived because it's frivolous and and just doesn't mean anything.
Here's the here's the interesting part as he's the last thing he's gotten is not a civil case, it's a criminal case.
Which now, if we are in the belief that maybe this investigation was spurred off of a civil litigation, should Diddy almost like you know try to drag the civil stuff out or should he settle or because here's the thing.
If new people are jumping into the civil market, they all want money.
Yeah, but they're coming with additional investigation um leads that the prosecutor could be like, oh, let's go talk to this person.
They we just read this new civil filing, or oh shit, they know the person, or they have this, they have a video of this.
How uh how do you think would I ask you from the agent perspective?
Would you be still um number one?
Are you done with the case after you hand it to the AUSA?
And number two, are you looking at these new civil filings to get additional leads as you either try to go for additional indictments or bolts in the case for the AUSA?
That's a great question.
Um, so there's this is a double-edged problem, right?
Uh there's a two double-edged sword.
So, on one hand, these people are coming with civil cases, which means that they have axe to grind, they know Diddy personally, they can be a good witness, and they probably have some intimate knowledge that can help you on your criminal case.
However, the fact that they're launching a civil case and trying to get money and recuperate from damages, etc.
Also hurts their credibility to a degree.
Because what the defense is gonna say is, yo, well, these people of course are gonna tell you what you want to hear and cooperate because they want to get money.
They want that they're not that they have uh they have an act to grind with this individual, they want revenge, right?
Are they really victims?
These people went ahead and they consensually had sex with him and now they want to come back and jump on the fucking bandwagon and make some money because everyone else is suing this guy.
So, yes, you are getting individuals that are kind of coming forward and allows the feds to kind of go identify them and talk to them, but them launching a civil suit does hurt their credibility a little bit.
So um, so it's a double-edged sword in that regard, I would say.
Oh wow, yeah.
Um yeah, uh, hey, just send me a text the next time you, you know, you're because I'm I'm gonna be doing this for the rest of the day, but like, you know, tomorrow or whatever, I I love to coordinate that we at least get like an hour or two in.
Yeah, by the way, uh, if this ever goes to trial, I do have a I have a a really I think decent plan of how this could be covered.
I would definitely love you involved.
We can talk about that offline though, clearly.
Absolutely, bro.
Absolutely.
We'll have to go there in person because they don't let you record in federal court, but I could definitely be there and we're gonna.
No, no, no, of course.
That that's that was part of the plan.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, real IRL streaming.
Yeah, no, let's let's fucking do it, man.
But yeah, thank you for having me on, bro.
Uh guys, check me out on twitch.tv slash fresh of fit, Fed Reacts on YouTube and on Rumble.
And uh act, thanks for having me on, bro.
And uh, you know, I'm always happy to do this.
I'll jump on the next time you do a Diddy stream.
No, of course, I appreciate it, brother.
All right, bro, any time be safe.
Oh, you too.
Later, guys.
All right.
That was a great stream, guys.
I'm gonna get off.
Guys, we're gonna end it there.
Uh fresh has got a stream to do with FaZe right now, so go check him out, guys.
Love you, ninjas.
I'll catch you guys back here.
I don't know if we're gonna do the Ian Carroll stream.
I'm fucking dead.
I haven't slept yet.
I'll probably do it maybe tomorrow for you guys.
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