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July 23, 2024 - MyronGainesX

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Director Cheatle Resigns And State Police Testimony

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	I think what Myron is right about trying to wait for why we're getting both where the FBI was probably as well.
	Yeah, uh I mean I told you guys she was incompetent from the beginning.
	But you resolved the culpability away with the when it could have been something.
	I don't get it.
	Thank you.
	Yo.
	Thank you.
	Actually, I would have been coming on you can probably know we're gonna talk about it.
	Um that it's talking about the fact that when he felt the specifically indirect wouldn't have known the the specific details of what's going on in that running.
	I think you would have a lot of the information that the investigation but what we need to be what that FBI before the investigation take a moment.
	What is is it within the point on Andrew DM has all that what is the culpability of the director of the people service?
	He said ultimately, of course she's the leader, he's responsible, but if you can see the difference, you're debating something that he's not even said.
	Go ahead, Myron.
	Clify if you if I'm wrong.
	Myron.
	Uh my bad, my bad.
	Uh silly mine.
	I'm just doing a little technical thing right now.
	Just give me t 30 seconds.
	Yeah, yeah, no worries.
	So coming back to go ahead, Confluence.
	Yeah, so I understand your point, and that's not uh specifically what I was asking.
	I'm just taking a question at the presupposition that it was only one person acting, and that these are standard operating procedures.
	And what's the other thing?
	What do you mean one person?
	What do you mean one person acting?
	Uh lone gunman.
	No one said that.
	No one said that.
	So why are you debating an issue?
	You could debate that issue for sure.
	Put it on the table.
	There'll be many people on debate you on that, but that's not what he's saying.
	This is the bit that I don't get.
	Confluence is here to just guys just like watch out.
	Hopefully it doesn't crash.
	But anyway.
	Um so what's what's you what's your argument?
	Because that's not his argument.
	So you're debating an issue, he's not even made.
	That's probably why he's getting annoyed, because you're not you're not arguing the actual specific point said.
	So lone gunman, like you can hold the position that it wasn't a lone gunman, which is kind of the position I'm definitely going uh uh I'm more believing at the moment.
	But at the same time, you can also believe that when it comes to Cheadle, this is definitely the made of the fall guy.
	I believe that.
	And you can also believe at the same time that she maybe didn't know the specifics in that day, unless she is directly involved in the attempted assassination.
	And you could also believe that um she doesn't know the specific details about the time and events since the FBI take another all the investigation.
	Those things are not not mutually exclusive.
	Yes, agreed.
	And to clarify, my point was not specific to her testimony yesterday, for which it's been well documented reasons for coldest acts of truth or not being forthcoming with information.
	To go against one of those points, you said information that you wouldn't have access to.
	A lot of the questions are around things that she was directly told.
	And I know Myron has said third party rule.
	We could go back to that.
	I understand it, but it still doesn't quell concerns of the people on the outside, right?
	The other portfolio.
	No one denied out, no one denies that.
	Of course, the people still have questions because after yesterday's hearing, we got questions, and even Myron said after tomorrow's hearing, people are still gonna have questions because the FBI is not gonna give any answers, but continue.
	So also, yes, my second point was not specific only to her testimony, for which we've discussed at length, and I understand the point of the case.
	What's up, Chad?
	I'm in here.
	Can you guys have chat if you guys could hear that?
	I may have misunderstood something used in a hypothetical as things are looking at currently positioned as opposed to his own.
	And I'll give you guys the most intention.
	And Myron, you don't even have to chat for him to hear me right now.
	Or you don't even feel compelled to answer this if you don't wish.
	It's just in his decision.
	This you guys know this dude's annoying as well.
	I've heard no possibility for something more than a lone gunman.
	And I was asking more about his personal position, not as a function of the testimony, which has been discussed.
	Okay, so you weren't very clear on that because actually Myron immediately when he came on the space the very first time said that both um this was before as soon as something happened, he said both are available.
	But let I'm not gonna put words in his mouth.
	Let's go to Myron.
	So yeah, what's your question against confluence?
	What's your specific question again?
	So now so his so just to be clear, because his contention isn't all of the things that we thought it was.
	His contention is just that he believes that you believe that this was definitely just a lone gunman and there was nothing more nefarious up there.
	And it could be that I misunderstood your expression as running the current scenarios as the information is shared publicly.
	And if that's the position, I didn't mean to infer your personal state on that.
	What I'm saying is when it comes to this gunman thing, from the information that I have, and the information has been put out, to me, it looks like one gunman.
	However, am I open to other theories of a second potential gunman?
	Of course.
	But right now, just from what we have, it looks like there's a solo guy that it was just a single gunman.
	Obviously, the case is developing rapidly.
	We might find out other co-conspirators.
	We don't know that yet because the FBI hasn't isn't even really like two to three weeks in.
	So great.
	And then oh, yeah, continue.
	No, that's it.
	On a communication strategy point, if there's this overwhelming ground swell, uh, like we had after uh JFK, not confluence, just on that, because let's not skip right.
	So in terms of there being more than one gunman, what's what's your position that it definitely was to more than one gunman?
	Or what's it?
	What's your position?
	Not not necessarily, but I think with weighing all of the potentials and the likelihoods, I think we can't disguise that potential.
	Even and I mentioned this.
	Yeah, so what so so one second, let's let's take this one at a time.
	So you're in agreement because basically, all even my position is that look, what we do know that there was possibly eight to ten uh shots fired.
	We know that only one of those shots was fired by the Secret Service.
	Means the other shots were fired by whom whomever one considers the adversary are the There was one myth, also, Sully.
	One miss by a local CS team of the two CS teams, and then there was two uh Secret Service CS teams, one of which had a direct hit through the trees.
	Bonjino calls it a one in a million shot.
	Okay, so so okay, I know I I haven't heard about the second shot, but okay, let's check that the second bullet was also so it means there's at least seven to CNN reported.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Because in the hearing, I believe they only said it was only one.
	So okay, this is C uh thingy in the yesterday's hearing as well as a couple of other places, they only said that there was only one shot fired from from this side, but okay, that's fine.
	Means it's possibly seven to eight shots that have been fired from either the lone gunman or a second gunman.
	Now, we can't know, and this is what we've uh I think this is what Myron's saying.
	This is my position as well, but Myron can clarify if it's not his position.
	Yeah, I'm gonna explain this to you guys.
	But we don't know if all them shots came from just uh Thomas Crooks.
	Because the problem is we've got no information about the types of bullets that were fired.
	We don't know the angles, we don't know where they came from, we don't know how they were hit.
	What we do know is after three or four um around about three or four uh bullets, uh that's when Donald Trump ducked roughly.
	So again, like uh so for me, it's like it looks we just can't discard either possibility.
	But Myron, let me go to you.
	What's your thoughts on that?
	Um, yeah.
	So my thoughts on that are you know, for intimate details as far as like the bullets, trajectory, um line of sight, etc.
	That's all gonna be with the FBI.
	It's all gonna be with the FBI.
	Secret Service isn't gonna have any of that, which is again why Cheeto was so reluctant to answer questions when it came to that stuff.
	Anything that was like involved with the criminal investigation, she didn't really Have information on because she's not privy to it.
	So, Myron, you have an outside pressure of citizen investigations.
	And not to say that of course they're privy to the same access, but uh available intel and all sorts of KG Anon researchers can get to some interesting information.
	And with this, the court of public opinion building so quickly and with no crime more interested by the greater earth in human history.
	This is something that needs to be competed with from a communication strategy standpoint.
	And the fact that every move has been so opaque, and you gave great reasons and spoke to the testimony yesterday.
	There's still more that can be done that hasn't been done.
	That this is a catastrophic failure.
	Just as the one in decades failure that you mentioned yesterday, this is a one in decades communication failure on the back of that.
	And that compounded with the failures in the person that happened to be in the place to take advantage, point to something or many questions that need to be answered.
	And the fact that they aren't quelling this in any of their outward presentations, even a very limited press conference where they get to see a face, they get to talk to a person.
	Questions can be fielded.
	Sorry, that's in an investigation.
	Oh, this sure we can share that with you.
	None of that's happened.
	And it's a good idea.
	So what's the point?
	Is your point that basically because they're not giving this information to the public, more people are gonna the uh the conspiracies or the speculation or even the invest in uh the citizen investigation is just gonna run rampant.
	Is that your argument?
	And that yes, when you have the theory of the city.
	Myron, go ahead, let Myron answer.
	Because I uh go ahead, Myron.
	Bro, like, oh man.
	Go ahead, just finish your statement and then I'll let me ask you a question, right?
	Um, because uh I think I just like let me I want to make this interesting.
	So, in terms of you've explained, like, in terms of the possibility of being one or two good.
	I think the greater question from this is for me, irrespective of whether there's one gunman or two gunmen, is whether there was this was one guy who lost his mind and did what he did, or whether there was something more nefarious applay.
	Now, one of the reports that came out was that allegedly he had three encrypted overseas bank accounts, Myron.
	Now, the question about that is A, who would have found that out within the investigation process, and B, why was that leaked?
	Because and then I explained to you the reason why I'm asking that question.
	Uh, it's all FBI.
	Um, that's that's gonna be FBI.
	They probably did a grand jury subpoena, found his bank accounts.
	Uh, you know, you do and a grand jury subpoena, guys, by the way, is how you it's the best way to get bank accounts because when you do a grand jury subpoena, the bank doesn't have to notify the person that's holding the account that the government did a subpoena on your on your stuff.
	So that's that's the best way to get financial records.
	So that's how they were able to probably probably find that.
	And just in addition to that, um it was leaked, right?
	So you're saying that was the FBI who leaked it.
	And then the second question is I mean, my theory is this that if this was someone like China, if if his overseas accountant was like China, Russia, Iran, this would have been all over the news.
	The fact that it's not all of the news, again, question marks which foreign nation he had these uh bank accounts.
	And if they did find it, they'd they'd make it classified immediately.
	They they wouldn't even if if they if they found a link between him and foreign intelligence or an adversarial country, I don't know if they would make that public right now.
	They would probably try to keep they'd probably classify it immediately and make that you know not something out for the public.
	A confluence, any of the questions, and then I'm gonna go to Lindsay.
	Uh no, not at the moment.
	Uh let's go to Lindsay.
	Go ahead, Lindsay.
	That confluence guy is a fucking idiot.
	Oh shit.
	Yeah, I was just so annoying.
	That there was somebody.
	Are you breaking up Lindsay?
	I can't see uh I can't hear what she's saying.
	Yeah, she's breaking up.
	Lindsay, you're breaking up significantly.
	Yeah, I can see all.
	Yeah, you're breaking up.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Uh Lindsay, I'm just gonna drop you down and bring you back up if you can start your headset out because it's breaking up uh in a significant manner.
	I'm just gonna do that.
	There we go.
	Um, right.
	So we're gonna be wrapping up soon, but just uh before we do, Myron, from your perspective, then, so the FBI's taken over this investigation.
	Does that mean that we're never gonna find out any information or only wherever they decide to trickle down to us?
	Yeah, they're they're not gonna, yeah.
	Until they get like either they conclude that there was no other conspirators or they have someone else in custody, they're probably not gonna give that much information.
	The only time FBI shares a good amount of information is when they need the public's help to find somebody.
	That's typically when they release the most information.
	Thank you.
	Lev, any last comments because we're all about a wrap up.
	Okay, Lindsay, jump in.
	Let any last comments because we're all about I've been having such crazy difficulty with the video.
	Okay, Lindsay, jump in.
	Any last comments because we're up.
	I I'm I've been having such crazy difficulty.
	I'm gonna break this down for you guys here in a second.
	Any last comments because we'll you hear me?
	Yeah, yeah, we can hear you.
	Okay, yeah.
	No, I don't know why, but I've been getting dropped.
	It's uh to the technical issues have been crazy.
	Listen, at the end of the day, uh it is what it is.
	We we're gonna have to wait and we're gonna have to get more information.
	I I think you know, uh, the one thing that we are finding out realizing is that we're gonna need to we're not gonna get it from the Secret Service, and now we have to hopefully we'll see what happens with the FBI hearings.
	I'm very you know excited to come to your space tonight, certainly at seven o'clock.
	I'm sure it's gonna be a lot of fireworks and a lot of crazy conspiracy theories.
	So anybody that wants to have some fun but not get any real information come tonight at seven o'clock.
	Oh my god, Lev, don't say that.
	It's the real information.
	Don't be the mainstream media propaganda piece.
	Confluence attack him.
	I know, Leb.
	Come on.
	You we know the line you're here to hold, and just be thankful you always get the seat from which to hold it.
	Uh it'll be interesting to see your takes on things in there, and it's just not adding up.
	And in general, Myron, if I misunderstood your uh theorized position from uh current available info as opposed to a position that you hold closer to your chest or your personal opinion.
	I'd love you to come to Sulli's space tonight.
	There'll be an interesting discussion, and you guys all rock.
	And thank you for bringing the clarity, Sully.
	I don't think you always had me pegged, but and also one last point, and hopefully we can discuss this later.
	Uh it's hard to say who the final parties would be, but it's pretty easy to see that there's some something more to be looked into here.
	So let's see.
	Let's see.
	Myron, any last thoughts?
	Uh no, man.
	I'm gonna uh I'm actually live on uh on YouTube and Rumble right now.
	If guys want to come check me out, I'm gonna watch this.
	I'm gonna be reacting right now to the testimony.
	Check me out on Fed Reacts.
	I'm live right now uh on YouTube and on the Fresh and Fish Channel, right?
	Yeah, Fresh and Fit Channel on Rumble, Fed Reacts on YouTube.
	I'm live right now.
	I'm gonna be uh reacting to the congressional hearings right now for they got the um butler police right now on.
	So uh but no, Sully, thank you for having me on.
	I'm always happy to come back.
	Are you coming tonight, Myron?
	Are you gonna be on a seven?
	I want to hear some of your conspiracy theories when you can let go.
	I mean, if I'm if I'm awake, yeah.
	Yeah, I still have a slept let.
	So, but yeah, definitely will if I'm awake.
	But no, man, thank you for having me on.
	It's always great talking to you guys.
	Appreciate you coming on, Myron, as always, uh providing us with the detailed knowledge and information based on your background.
	Appreciate guys joining in.
	Appreciate guys listening.
	I'm for sure.
	We will see you tonight, 7 p.m.
	Awesome.
	Later, guys.
	All right.
	So, chat, real quick.
	Uh right now, as you guys can see here, we got the congressional hearings going on right with the assassination.
	Let's go ahead and go back a bit and rewind on to what I was talking about.
	Give you guys the speed of what the hell's going on.
	I apologize for the delay.
	I was in a Twitter space.
	We had 6,000 plus people in there.
	So I'm gonna unmute this, and we're gonna react to it here in a second, but let me give you guys the stuff.
	Give me ones in the chat if you guys can hear me good, and we'll I'll break everything down.
	I just want to make sure that the audio is good right now.
	Give me ones if we're good.
	Oh, what the fuck?
	Oh no.
	Hold on.
	Ones?
	All right, sweet, sweet.
	Sorry, hold on, guys.
	I'm just fixing some technical stuff here, man.
	Okay, so we got this here.
	Boom.
	All right.
	So let's go over this Kim Cheadle thing real fast.
	All right.
	And I literally tweeted about this.
	Give me one sec.
	Doing this shit on the fly, guys.
	Literally just still half asleep and the grind doesn't end though.
	We're live on all the platforms.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I got the video muted, guys, by the way.
	That's why you guys can't hear the video.
	I I'm I'm just I'm gonna be talking over it real quick.
	So before I do that, let me go ahead and pull up my tweet real fast.
	Give me one sec.
	Because we're gonna go ahead and look at it.
	Right, Twitter.
	Boom.
	All right.
	Show you guys my little tweet, because this explains it perfectly.
	I tweeted this earlier today.
	Give me one sec, guys.
	I have it here somewhere.
	Okay.
	Here we go.
	It was a waste of time to bring United States Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheadle in for questioning.
	That was entertaining.
	Let's be honest here.
	This is a clip from this was a clip farming hearing to punish someone for the security failure on July 13, 2024.
	Here's why it was a waste of time.
	Number one, she's incompetent.
	Number two, they asked questions about the criminal case.
	The Federal Bureau of Investigation, FBI has run the criminal investigation.
	She's not privy to all the facts, nor does the FBI have to furnish it to her.
	Nashville Council Club, shout out to you, my friend.
	Dom Del Moncox shout out to you.
	I'll give you a double down to Marco for that one, bro.
	Dom Domonco.
	Man, if you really want to support.
	So thank you so much, brother.
	Um third, they ask questions about what happened on the ground on July 13, 2024.
	She is the U.S. uh United States Secret Service director.
	Directors are too far up in the chain to know or understand what's going on operationally.
	The head of the Trump uh detail is the only one that will know everything on that day and probably cleared the operation plan, which is key.
	Four, they asked internal questions about firings within the U.S. Secret Service.
	The Department of Homeland Security, DHS, OIG Office of Inspector General, and maybe the United States Office of Professional Responsibility are running the internal investigation, and OIG doesn't have to answer to Cheetle.
	This hearing was the equivalent to you going to Chipotle and the cash register punches uh guy punches you, and then you blame the Chipotle president and bring him in for questioning.
	Though he's ahead of Chipotle, and it would look good and entertaining to publicly hold him accountable.
	He won't really know or have the answers for that employee punching you.
	If you are actually serious about getting to the bottom of this, don't waste your time with Cheetle.
	This is who you subpoena.
	FBI special agent charge Kevin P. Rojak, uh for the for the criminal investigation for the United States Secret Service failure, the head of Trump's uh security detail, whoever signed off on the operation plan, and then for the internal investigation, DHS Inspector General Joseph Kafari or United States OPR director David M. Smith, or preferably both.
	Domocal Monco.
	And I was explaining that in the chat, and that's why I was getting this stupid fucking pushback from this guy that doesn't understand how the government works.
	But anyway, I say all that.
	Now let's get into the congressional hearing.
	You see here that there's a uh this is the colonel for the police department where this all went down.
	Let's go ahead and put the volume on.
	Witnesses, uh at any point where we're gonna probably go at least another hour here.
	If you need to take a break, just let me know.
	And just give me the highest honor a thumbs up.
	Uh y'all are okay right now.
	Are you yeah, we can take break.
	Take a break.
	All right, we'll do five minutes and five minutes only.
	The the restrooms right down the hallway to your right.
	Adjourn.
	All right, I'm gonna get a protein shake real quick.
	Give me one second, guys.
	And I'm gonna come back and explain some stuff.
	But we'll rewind the testimony.
	Uh thank you.
	I was just having this email.
	All right, let's rewind some of the testimony.
	Let's rewind it.
	Join me in observing a moment of that was not the case here.
	Violence in all its forms.
	There simply is no place for it in our democracy.
	The attempted assassination is in a Sylvania, Mr. Uh Kelly is permitted to sit on the dais and ask questions to the witnesses.
	Um serves as the president, national uh fraternal order of police.
	In this role, Mr. Yoles leads uh the order 367,000 law enforcement members and representing police officers and the profession.
	Prior to taking his current role, Mr. Yoes served an impressive 36 years as an active law enforcement officer.
	I thank the witnesses for being here today, and I now recognize Colonel Paris for five.
	Okay, so he brought his union rep, guys.
	That that obviously, when you're put under oath like that, you you you're gonna bring your union rep minutes to summarize his opening statement.
	Chairman Green, Ranking Member Thompson, Homeland Security Committee members.
	Good morning.
	I am Colonel Christopher Paris, Commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police.
	I would like to take this opportunity to offer our condolences on the passing of Congresswoman Lee.
	I would also like to take this opportunity to express our condolences to the comparator family and offer our continued prayers to Mr. Dutch, Mr. Copenhaver, as well as former President Trump, as they continue to recover.
	I'm humbled to be here today and testify about a tragic incident which has deeply impacted the Butler community, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and our nation.
	I would like to dedicate my testimony here today to the approximately 6,400 women and men, civilian and enlisted of the PSP, who work tirelessly for Pennsylvania, and it is my honor to lead them.
	I'd like to offer a perspective that this is very much an ongoing, complex and dynamic investigation.
	And each day, as we arrive at day 10 today, I learn multiple new facts as we uncover new information as the investigation progresses.
	I'd like to offer a point of clarification affirmatively about PSP's role.
	So, Okay.
	So he's going to say what the state police is role was in that situation.
	Prior to the shooting, our role was to support the Secret Service with personnel and assets that they requested.
	Our operation plan completed to fulfill this responsibility consisted of 32 members, and we had two main responsibilities.
	A motorcade operation for the transportation with the Secret Service of former.
	So they have their own operation plan that they did.
	President Trump, as well as manning and staffing security posts inside the secure area of the Butler County Farm show.
	Additionally, we provided two marked cars with uniformed troopers outside of the secure perimeter to provide roving duties, as the name implies, responding to incidents that may occur as a large gathering of people were moving So they're just patrolling going back and forth quite offset.
	After the shooting, uh very early after the shooting, I had a conversation with the FBI, wherein the FBI is the responsible investigating agency for the attempted assassination of a former president under federal law.
	The same actions that led to that also led to the homicide of one Pennsylvanian and the attempted homicide of two additional.
	As well as the use of force by the Secret Service counter-sniper to neutralize the threat of Mr. Crooks, thus necessitating an officer-involved shooting investigation.
	So the PSP currently is conducting a criminal investigation parallel to and in concert with the FBI to identify any and all parties criminally culpable under Pennsylvania state law for the homicide.
	For the homicide, I told you guys.
	I told y'all initially conducting an investigation into the U.S. Secret Service counter-sniper who neutralized the threat posed by Crooks after he opened fire.
	I've been recently briefed about any time there's an officer involved shooting, guys, they have to investigate it and make sure that he acted with a reason and it was a clean shoe.
	So I literally called this y'all.
	I didn't watch this testimony, guys.
	They're doing the murder investigation on the state side, and they're also doing and the injuries, and they're also doing the um the what's it called?
	The um the investigation into the officer that was the Secret Service agent that did that did the shooting.
	It's just it's protocol.
	have to do it anytime there's an officer-involved shooting.
	The Department of Homeland Security's commissioned after-action report.
	I can tell you that the Pennsylvania City Police will fully cooperate with that investigation, and it's my hope that I can answer some questions here today without sacrificing that ongoing investigation and prove to be of value to the committee.
	Thank you very much.
	All right.
	Thank you, Colonel Paris.
	Um I now recognize Mr. Yoes for five minutes to summarize his opening statement.
	Good morning, Chairman Green, Representative Thompson.
	And distinguished members of the House Committee on Homeland Security, my name is Patrick Yoes, and I'm the national president of the Faternal Auditor Police, the nation's oldest and largest law enforcement labor organization.
	All right, so he's there to represent him, his union rep. When you're a uniform guys, uh, you can go ahead and get a union rep to come with you to stuff like this.
	Because obviously you're under oath.
	You don't want to jam yourself up.
	And you've been subpoenaed, so you have to go.
	So this is effectively like his lawyer, almost.
	And a member of this committee.
	The witnesses alike and present for hard answers.
	She was a prolific legislator who took pride in writing her own legislation and improving the bills of her colleagues through amendments.
	Congresswoman Jackson Lee fault for resources.
	Okay.
	First responders.
	I just want to make sure I uh say this.
	You you feel comfortable at any time to say, I'm sorry, this could compromise the investigation.
	These guys get this all the time.
	This is classified information.
	They're accustomed to that.
	So just, you know, they're gonna they're they're gonna be cool with that, I assure you.
	Um members will be recognized by order of seniority when we come back for from votes, but we will take a recess and return secret service use any drones.
	This was for that day.
	All right, let's get back to the now recognize the ranking member for his five minutes of questioning.
	Uh thank you very much.
	Now we're getting into the question.
	Here we go.
	Um Commissioner Parrish, you talked about your tenure.
	Uh I got you guys.
	I just skipped through the bullshit, man.
	Let's go.
	With the Pennsylvania uh state police.
	Have you worked other events where uh a presidential candidate or uh the president has come to Pennsylvania?
	Yes, I have, sir.
	So this would not have been an unusual occurrence to participate.
	I I ran the numbers we typically do about uh 20 missions a year, the low 20s a year in a regular year.
	We're already in the low 20s this year, being an election year.
	So our commanders in the field who interface with the Secret Service to plan uh provide support are on a routine basis.
	I wouldn't say an everyday occurrence, but uh a fairly routine basis.
	Okay.
	So can you walk us through uh the Penn Pennsylvania State Police's in a Trump's team talks to PSP, State Police, every time they come into Pennsylvania?
	Action.
	Uh Pennsylvania is an important state guy, so of course they go there often.
	With the Secret Service, uh you kind of started off giving us from the point of contact uh that an occurrence was about to happen.
	Was there anything particular about the Butler Pennsylvania event that stands out as regular, irregular, or uh anything?
	I would say uh not to my knowledge, based on our discussions with our uh commanders who who planned it, it progressed along a normal timeline.
	They attempted to give the Secret Service and I believe provided the Secret Service with everything they were they were requested.
	So your role on that day uh in terms of the state police was what?
	So we were, I would classify it as in a support role, and the two main areas of responsibility for the state troopers that were assigned that day were those participating in the motorcade to get former President Trump from his point of landing to the venue in Butler County and back uh with several other um additional uh entities that were requested by the Secret Service.
	And then on site, uh we had to staff security posts that were determined by the Secret Service.
	All of those posts were inside of the secure perimeter of the Butler County Farm show.
	Um I guess uh I was one of those individuals who traveled to Butler.
	Uh just for my information, um uh have you had any interaction with the FBI or anything as they look into the investigation as to what you or your men uh observed on that day?
	Uh yes, we're we're conducting an investigation uh largely in concert with and parallel to the Bureau uh because the actions of uh crooks have federal legal implications and uh state law implications.
	Okay, the murder is the main one.
	Uh President Yoson, your comments, you talked about the need for uh communication, you talked about first net, and so we have federal, state, and local uh law enforcement at an event like what we were talking about in Butler.
	Uh but in our conversation with uh some of the locals, uh not state police, but the sheriff's department and and and the chief of police in Butler yesterday, uh, those individuals did not have communication um with actually state police or secret service.
	Would that, in your professional opinion, be a vulnerability for uh managing a seriously?
	And I appreciate you asking that question.
	I'd like to pause for a moment of silence and remember prayer.
	Which again, I don't want to be locked into a timeline of three minutes minutes before.
	That's probably a total number of time, amount of time that he...
	Okay, they're doing a moment of silence here.
	So let me go back currently.
	...for the Secret Service to operate all across the United States and have each individual agency telling the Secret Service how the operation should be run.
	They're the lead agency.
	if that was something that their protocols called for uh during the initial um meeting when preliminary steps and agencies were brought together, that would be something that would be discussed typically.
	The AGR building um did uh did your guys on the ground there ever voice concerns to Secret Service or not putting somebody on that building?
	So I suppose the best um sequence of events that I can give you is that PSP was notified by email on July 5th about this event.
	There was an initial planning meeting where we had commanders present on Monday, uh July 8th.
	So uh over Tuesday the 9th and Wednesday the 10th, those commanders that we designated basically our orders are from the front office, my team on down.
	You know, we work collaboratively with the Secret Service, collaborate, give them what we can.
	Um the final walkthrough occurred on the 11th.
	Present at that meeting were uh the two commanders that were tasked with both both uh staffing the security checkpoints on the interior of the secure perimeter, uh, as well as the commander who was going to be in charge of the motorcade.
	But in addition to that, uh a PSP area commander was on that walkthrough holding the rank of major.
	Could could you share a little bit of insight?
	I appreciate the the timeline, but could you share a little bit because I only have about a minute?
	I apologize.
	Yeah, the specific to the AGR building.
	So on that walkthrough, uh our area commander uh asked specifically who was responsible for the AGR building, and we were told that uh Butler ESU was responsible for that area by several Secret Service agents on that walkthrough.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Um last quick question.
	Uh real quick, I mean, I'll let you comment about it.
	Uh the slope of the roof, would that have prevented a sniper from being up there?
	I don't believe so, sir.
	Okay, thank you.
	Uh, I yield I now recognize the ranking member for his five minutes of questioning.
	Uh thank you very much.
	Uh Commissioner Parrish, you talked about your tenure uh with the Pennsylvania uh state police.
	Have you worked other events where uh a presidential candidate or uh the president has come?
	There's an infrastructure in place now to address uh these uh you know inner operabilities, but that's used a command center and interaction.
	And I'll wrap up real quickly, Mr. Chair.
	And now we're currently siloing makes sense, but we need to look at how we make it a clearer chain of communication to ensure that really important pieces of information like identifying the shooter on the roof doesn't get delayed in moving through those channels.
	So thank you both for appearing in it.
	Thank you both for your service, and thank you, Chair.
	I yield back.
	Gentleman yields.
	I now recognize uh Sheriff I mean Congressman uh Eazell for his uh five minutes of testimony.
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and you know, we also want to thank uh all of you for being here today and for Speaker Johnson for putting together a bipartisan task force to try to so we can get as much information find out what happened here.
	Uh today's conversations regarding the attempted assassination of former President Trump is a critical one that I probably never happens again.
	Uh throughout my law enforcement career, I held many leadership positions, and uh through those roles I've coordinated with the White House advanced teams, state and local law enforcement, uh, and doing some of these very same similar type events.
	Uh and we have one goal in mind, and that's to keep people safe.
	Uh because of a massive failure in communication, President Trump was shot at from a little more than a football field away.
	And because of the failure of former uh Secret Service leadership, especially former directors, spectators were forced to do what the Secret Service failed to do, and that was protect themselves from bullets.
	Ultimately, this led to the death of Corey Comportore, who gave his life while bravely shielding his wife and children during this terrible thing.
	Colonel, uh thank you for being here today.
	And I've said from the beginning, if you want answers, you gotta talk to the men and women who were on the ground, the law enforcement officers who were out there and who were taking directions and commands from the leadership of Secret Service and various other leaders.
	You testified that 32 members of PSP were assigned to various roles to assist the Secret Service.
	Is that correct?
	Yes, sir, I did.
	Your officers were assigned to various roles, but they were not responsible for securing the building or property at AGR, is that correct?
	Yes, sir.
	The former director testified yesterday that the building was outside the Secret Service.
	Uh, did the U.S. Secret Service leadership direct local or state police that that was their job to secure the building?
	And if so, did they provide any guidance on this?
	So, as I stated earlier, aside from the briefing that I received about the walkthrough when uh the question was raised and the response from the advance team of the Secret Service, the agents on the on the pre-plan, that that was going to be the responsibility of Butler ESU.
	I have no firsthand knowledge about any interaction between the Secret Service and any other entity, really.
	Secret Service established and managed the primary command post for communications in the office of the Butler Farm Show.
	That's my understanding, sir.
	Yes.
	Command Center is where all the brass sets guys and gives orders.
	Communications were siloed and local law enforcement were not in frequent radio contact directly with the Secret Service.
	Local SWAT and sniper teams were on a separate radio channels from patrol.
	Colonel, do your radios have the capability to be programmed to be in contact with other agencies?
	And do you know if the officers on the ground that day had been a little bit of a capabilities with the secretary?
	Told y'all, man.
	You're asking me a very specific question that I would defer to our Bureau of Communication Information Services.
	I can get you an answer as to what those are.
	Thank you very much.
	Um you know if the Secret Service provided any guidance on combined communications.
	I do not, again, referring I have not seen their operations plan.
	Oh, 545 P. E.M. a local law enforcement section.
	Well, he wasn't there, so he doesn't get an out plan.
	That makes sense.
	This guy's a colonel, he's really high up.
	He's not going to be there in the fucking doing the security detail like that.
	Colonel, how would you have responded to that information?
	So again, uh, I certainly wouldn't articulate that at that point uh a rangefinder which could have uh legal and legitimate use that that is a is a threat, but it's certainly a highly suspicious um activity that should be addressed.
	Exactly.
	Uh Mr. Woes.
	You testified clear and constant communication is crucial to ensure the security of the protectee, and that local law enforcement should be part of the command post to facilitate real-time information sharing and rapid response to emerging situations.
	As we all know, separate communications are necessary and effective during a large-scale event like this.
	There's no way everybody can be on the same channel.
	You talk over each other, you won't ever get anything done.
	But there must be some clear understandings through communications at the beginning, so that split second decisions can be made so there won't be a lapse in time and these terrible things happen.
	Uh could would you like to just say a few words about that?
	Sir, there's there's no doubt when you look at how many people are involved in in an operation like this.
	Having everyone on one channel is difficult.
	But there are people within contained areas, and their ability to be able to communicate as things change, change across platforms is crucial.
	In this case, we know that in seconds things unfolded, and in seconds, uh getting you know meaningful communication out to people who who might be able to uh to act on that communication is is vital.
	So I I I think there's there's avenues here.
	I I agree uh that not everyone should be on the same channel, but there are certain people with people within certain areas and perimeters that should be having communication or the ability to communicate a little more freer.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
	I yield back.
	Gentleman yields.
	Uh I now recognize Mr. D. Espazito.
	Um representing uh the New York uh law enforcement community as well for five minutes of testimony.
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and uh good afternoon.
	Thank you both for your your service.
	Uh on July 13th, we witnessed the Secret Service fail to secure the Pennsylvania field and keep the former president of the United States of America and the Americans that were gathered there.
	Got to Chicago Conservative.
	It was awake at the end of the day.
	Corey Computore, a volunteer fire chief, a father, and a husband died while shielding his family from the assassin's bullets.
	Two others, David Dutch and James Copenhaver, were both struck by bullets and are still recovering.
	The Secret Service failed.
	Quite frankly, they failed miserably.
	And Colonel Parris, Mr. Yoes, Mr. Eizel, myself, we could probably combine our law enforcement experience and have no question that there was failures that day.
	We could probably ask someone who just graduated from a police academy or a veteran with 40 years on the job, and they would agree.
	So my first question is to Colonel Paris.
	I know that you mentioned over the last year you have had close to 20 interactions with the Secret Service and visits.
	During his presidency, Pennsylvania has been the second most visited state by President Biden.
	That makes sense.
	Swing state, guys.
	If you could go over again, what is your coordination with the Secret Service?
	What does it normally look like ahead of a visit from the President of the United States?
	So I would say the basic timeline is the same.
	We are notified at some point that there's going to be a visit of a protectee or the president and everybody in between.
	The venue is ultimately secured, the logistics, and then there's planning at the request of the Secret Service.
	And our default position is to attempt to partner and give them all the support that we can.
	Okay.
	Now, I know that Mr. Menendez had similar questions, but I just want to reiterate because I think it's critically important.
	Of the dozens of times that you have dealt with visits from the President of the United States, and I'm sure you have thought about this dozens and dozens of time at this point, and read through emails and thought about different incidents, compared to the incident on July 13th.
	Was there anything different from the way that this was handled?
	Not to my knowledge, sir.
	Okay.
	So at approximately 5.51 p.m., Pennsylvania State Police notified the Secret Service of a subject with a range finder.
	That was 20 minutes before the gunman shot President Trump and two others.
	This is for either one of you.
	What should have happened next?
	So ideally, I would say that uh Mr. Crooks could have been encountered and intercepted.
	That would have been the ideal.
	Mr. Yoes.
	Well, I again I I I have no direct knowledge.
	I want to make that clear.
	But I I think also we need to need to assess the threat and determine whether there's a need to withhold the asset from the stage.
	So I think we we all know what should have happened, right?
	Twenty minutes passed.
	Uh there was someone who eventually took a shot at a former President of the United States and killed two innocent Americans.
	So we know what did happen.
	One innocent American.
	We know what should have happened.
	What do you say to those that are saying that local law enforcement failed to provide adequate security at the same time?
	See what they say on this one.
	As I stated earlier, uh, based on everything I know up until day 10, um, I only am going to comment on the Pennsylvania State Police, and it's my belief as I sit here, based on all the information that I have, that we met or exceeded our expectations for that event.
	Am I saying that uh the event was a success?
	Obviously, it was not.
	Um, and our hearts go out to those affected.
	Good answer.
	We're not lead, baby.
	Translation, we're not the lead agents.
	Not our problem.
	I don't think the Federal agencies have the ability to be with bandwidth to be able to have this event without coordinated effort with local law enforcement.
	Uh to my knowledge, local law enforcement did what their responsibilities and directions were.
	And Mr. Yows, we've uh corresponded about the job is to be the uniform presence, guys in the last 20 seconds I have.
	The United States Secret Service established and managed the primary command post.
	Would you agree, Colonel, that in the United States of America, we have a serious issue when it comes to law enforcement and communicating through multiple jurisdictions and agencies at a singular event?
	I would say the short answer is it depends, but communications are always a critical piece to any successful operation.
	So I agree it does depend, but I do have a concern when some people's lives are on the lines when we are uh supposed to be protecting an asset regardless of who it is, but especially someone who was and uh it was the president of the United States.
	The fact that law enforcement agencies are communicating at such a critical time via text message is a problem.
	And it's one that I think this committee and uh other committees need to take a real hard look at.
	Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
	Gentleman yields.
	I now recognize Mr. Strong for five minutes question.
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
	Thank you for being here today.
	I think we all agree that none of us ever want to be wanted to be holding a hearing like this.
	As we have covered, the Secret Service relies on federal, state, and local partners to coordinate and secure events.
	These access are crazy the safety of its protectee.
	As both of you rightly uh emphasized in your testimony, Secret Service is the ultimate res uh is the ultimate responsible and the final arbiter of any and all security matters affecting their protectee.
	Full stop.
	Mr. Yoes, you also went on to highlight the importance of mutual respect, trust, and shared commitment in the relationship between Secret Service, the state, and locals.
	I was pleased to learn that Director Cheadle has tendered her resignation.
	This is the first time we have seen real accountability from the director following July the 13th.
	It is my hope the truth will now come.
	Her lack of leadership following the assassination attempt has not only impeded the ongoing investigation and eroded the public's trust, but it is also the potential to erode the mutual respect and trust that are fundamental to this relationship between the Secret Service and partners they rely on.
	Colonel Parris, I understand that state and local uh locals were the ones that first alert alerted the command center of a suspicious individual some 20 minutes before he started shooting.
	Is that correct?
	As I said before, I would I would agree with the sequence of events, but I don't want to spec I don't want to uh uh go on the record with the exact time.
	So that's my guy.
	This is what happens when you testify.
	You don't want to be too specific.
	The Pennsylvania State Police use a digital radio system, whether it be the P25 or something of that nature.
	Yes, we do.
	Uh and it has unbelievable technology.
	I know we've utilized it throughout the state of Alabama 40 years and um uh as a first responder to go from UHF, VHF to a digital system changes the ball game.
	Does the Secret Service also use a digital radio system?
	I would have to get you uh information on that.
	I don't I don't know, sir.
	You saw so the communication between the agencies um, you know, you start looking at it, the communication with a digital radio system, you can change frequencies.
	You can make a mutual frequency.
	Uh every radio has, you can have hundreds of uh different frequencies.
	But as far as you're not sure if they have a digital radio system or if they're using another conventional UHF or VHF frequency or something of that nature.
	In answer to the first part, I'm not I'm not an expert on radios.
	I I can't uh render an opinion on what their system is.
	But my the only answer I would provide is my understanding is there are uh certain encrypted capabilities that the Secret Service has to maintain that may provide uh difficulty and what would otherwise be if we had a regular incident and we were able to set up a patch to communicate across agencies.
	Thank you.
	Colonel Paris, as you just shared after uh state and locals identified the shooter as suspicious, they relayed that information to Secret Service and were given a number to send uh their concerns to.
	Is this standard operating procedures to uh be left a phone number to give uh your information to rather than direct communications through radio?
	I don't I don't want to say that it's standard operating procedure, but if it's if it was a system that uh or a measure that worked to push that information to the people who needed it in the most expeditious means, I wouldn't be averse to uh going away from standard protocols.
	You said that you had done this uh type of event with uh other presidents or uh in your state.
	Uh in past history, is this how it usually was done?
	I can't say that I have had a personal experience about uh I I've obviously been present when there were suspicious people that came out over the radio and law enforcement was seeking them, but uh I can't say that I have a frame of reference exactly on point here, sir.
	Did the Secret Service provide rules of engagement for state and locals?
	Did y'all have to authorize a green light for fire, or do your do you go by your day-to-day activity where you go by our we would go by the uh policy and regulations and uh state law that cover the Pennsylvania State Police?
	Another thing that stood out to me with a background in emergency medical services is when the president was brought off, you saw his SUV move about 20 feet, and then it sat there.
	We watched as a lady in the skirt, walked in front of the SUV, we watched his other law enforcement people, spectators, whatever.
	Did you notice that that seemed to be a long time for the president to be sitting for a for someone that had taken a bullet?
	Uh did you think that was a long time?
	I would completely defer to the Secret Service.
	Thank you.
	Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
	Gentleman yields I now recognize Mr. Crane for five minutes of question.
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
	I'd like the staff to go ahead and play the video that I took at the site yesterday.
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	This is when they were out there, the Congressman went out to Pennsylvania to look at it.
	Where the uh suppose the sniper took a shot, it's not that steep at all.
	Just had a 70-year-old man back here climb up on the uh on the roof and easily see that water tower behind me had Secret Service or anybody had sniper teams up there?
	This guy wouldn't have made it um five feet up this roof.
	Um he would have been taken out behind me.
	Can we see the windows that uh Secret Service was supposedly in the second floor of this building behind?
	Makes you wonder why they uh weren't able to quickly dispatch the individual.
	Um and then behind me, back over here where those red roofs are, that's where please president was giving a speech from a lot of questions here in Butler.
	Uh thank you.
	All right, Colonel Paris, um, did you notice when you showed up on site um what the tallest structure on the site was?
	I can't say at the moment that I arrived that I did know, sir.
	Okay.
	Now that you've had a chance to go back and look over it, what is the tallest structure on that site?
	The water tower, sir.
	Absolutely.
	Uh, Colonel, do you know how far the water tower was from the roof where the shooter took his shots?
	I do not.
	160 yards, sir.
	Who made the decision, Colonel, not to put a counter sniper team on the tallest structure by far on the site with 360 degree surveillance?
	Do you have any idea?
	I do not know, sir.
	Okay.
	We'd like to get that answer.
	Um did you see the video that um showed me sticking my phone out the second story window?
	Did you see that?
	Yes, sir.
	Okay.
	Exposing the coverage of the window of the entire roof.
	Are you aware that local law enforcement and secret service had full access to that building in that room?
	My understanding is that they did.
	Yeah.
	Why weren't security teams, sir, on site able to spot a 20-year-old kid with zero camouflage crawling up a white roof with an AR-15 that several rally goers were screaming and yelling and pointing out, and they noticed him, and they weren't even there to conduct security.
	They were there to watch the president.
	Do you have any idea why the security teams couldn't find that guy?
	I do not, sir.
	Would the gentleman yield for just a second on that?
	So uh just for clarification, it was the ESU guys that were manning those buildings.
	Yep.
	And they left the because of the call of the suspicious person.
	So they left their post there to go look for him.
	They're the same individuals who attempted to climb up the building and were scared away by the shooter pointing the gun, right?
	I reclaim my time.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	I'm just wondering why.
	I'm just wondering why they weren't able to find him, because even while they were looking, they could have still looked out that window that they had access to.
	All right.
	Um Colonel Parris, let's I'm just gonna say it.
	Are you aware, sir, that many Americans believe this was very likely not a loan shooter, but a coordinated assassination attempt?
	Here we go.
	Have you been getting those messages from people like I have?
	I have not, sir.
	You haven't?
	Well, there's a lot of people in this room that have been getting the same messages.
	Why do you why do you think that is?
	Why do you think that a lot of Americans are like, this doesn't add up?
	This doesn't make sense, guys.
	How how could this many things have gone wrong?
	Right?
	Like the things I pointed out.
	A 20-year-old kid, 150, got 150 yards of the president of the United States with an AR-15, blew a drone to conduct site surveillance, was spotted with a rangefinder, ranging targets, then lost, had advanced explosive devices on him with no military training.
	Nobody was placed in the most obvious spot to conduct counter sniper operations.
	I was a sniper in the SEAL teams colonel.
	Um as soon as I got out of the SUV and I saw that sniper that water tower, I was like, that's exactly where I'd be.
	Put me right there.
	So obvious.
	After partisan attempts to bankrupt him, imprison him for 750 years and countless depictions as a modern day Hitler.
	Are you surprised, sir, that a lot of Americans are like maybe there's more to this story?
	I wouldn't begin to speculate about what the American people think, sir.
	Colonel, did your team truth investigation at the suspect's home?
	You guys brought me down here, I don't want to be here.
	You asked me these goddamn questions.
	Excuse me, sir.
	I asked that question.
	Did your team make entry and conduct any investigation at the suspect's home?
	I believe uh we had people that uh participated in that um securing of it.
	Uh there were bomb assets that we provided.
	Mr. Chairman, can I have 30 more seconds?
	Yeah, yeah, I'm letting everybody come in.
	Okay.
	On the night of since then, none of the Did you get any reports from any of your agents of anything fishy at the home?
	I was briefed on uh Was there any silverware found in the home or trash?
	I I have no nothing in the briefing that I was given, sir.
	Was it extremely clean, almost like a medical lab?
	Were you given any of those reports?
	I was not giving any of those details, sir.
	Okay, that's what I'm hearing.
	Interesting.
	Um the last thing I want to answer to the record, Mr. Chairman.
	This is uh article, opinion from uh I believe the Washington Post by Robert Kagan.
	A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable.
	We should stop pretending.
	This is comp this article compares Trump to Caesar and attempts to justify the assassination of President Trump.
	And I think even though we want to dodge around it and not make this partisan, I think we all know that a lot of this has to do with the rhetoric, the very violent rhetoric that has led up to this.
	Thank you.
	I yield back.
	Gentleman yields and so ordered on the uh entry of that into the record.
	I now recognize Mr. Burkeen for five minutes of test testimony.
	Or witness questioning.
	Uh thank you, Mr. Chairman.
	Next guy.
	Alexander, would you mind moving that just a little bit forward here so I can paragraph?
	Can you see that or am I obstructing your view?
	I bel I believe I can see it, sir.
	Would you mind?
	I'm sorry.
	Can we shift it just a little bit uh to your left, Alexander?
	There we go.
	Okay.
	Better?
	Yes, sir.
	Okay.
	So this is a picture I took yesterday on the grounds, looking out of that second story window that has the corridor that connects the AGR building, the uh American glass research building, with where the shooter's location, and I'm gonna stand up and I'm gonna point to the shooter's location as we were made aware.
	From that X is where the shooter was shared with us.
	His body was found.
	Um from this viewpoint, there's some videos that make it look like he's more this direction, but from the perception, it kind of is confusing, but he was more towards that opposite side.
	This window, second story, it's the second window from the right side.
	That window has this view where they could clearly, those ESU officers that were stationed, given access by the property owner to that window, could see the shooter had they been stayed on stayed in that man position.
	This is their moving towards the location of President Trump with the red barns back here.
	His stage was right in front of that.
	And you can see a window here that is absolutely gonna obstruct the view to be able to look to the 20 or 30 different barn structures, the cattle building, the sheep building, the hog building, the rodeo arena by the pond, the many structures or 50 buildings within a 500 yard radius of where President Trump was at.
	So many vulnerabilities.
	Do you see a problem with that window being in the way of someone being able from this position to be able to uh you know take care of the asset?
	I believe a casement window would present a tactical concern for full field.
	And and I understand potentially, you know, this was air conditioning on top of this second story building, wasn't it?
	So maybe that was a consideration.
	But ultimately, Secret Service is the one who made the determination of placement or or uh contacting or making sure the plan was in coordination with the property owner for allowing gaining admittance from the property owner for the second story window.
	Is that correct?
	That was Secret Services plan.
	Correct.
	Ultimately it's on this on Secret Service for that plan.
	All right.
	My question is if it's their plan, did they not indicate that someone had to stay manned in that location?
	Because we're being told that when the two officers, local PD were trying to lift this.
	All right, so this is interesting to figure out which local law enforcement agencies were there.
	Was it state police?
	Was it Butler uh police department?
	Was the sheriff's office?
	Who was it?
	To get a look at the gentleman, and he turns his gun and then they dropped off the building.
	This would have been a perfect opportunity, someone to be on the radio, they could have taken him out from this location.
	Did the Secret Service plan not include directives from staying in those positions?
	I don't know, sir.
	You don't know.
	All right.
	Here's here's another question.
	With the two minutes that you said that there was an opportunity from the time that they were hoisted up, looked at the shooter.
	Are you all you're given the responsibility as just as delegated in the outer perimeter to secure the area?
	Why weren't they able to immediately call their supervisor who would then be authorized to issue a hold on the asset or a get him off the stage call?
	Why does it have to be as your testimony says they were to they took a picture, sent it to Secret Service 20 minutes before the incident of the shooting, and they have to wait for a response.
	Why is not the line of communication?
	I understand they're on different radio frequencies.
	Why were they not empowered to say if we send something suspicious, then state police, local law enforcement, sheriff's department, each one, the head official of each one of those departments, if we entrusted them with enough responsibility to secure that environment, then we ought to give them the responsibility to issue a hold call because of something that they see as a threat.
	Are they empowered to do that, or does it have to all go through Secret Service to issue a hold?
	Secret Service.
	I can only say uh what I know about our the state police uh operations plan, and uh and I do not know the answer to your question, sir.
	So I do not know the answer.
	I don't know what the protocol would be to issue the hold order.
	And just as a point of clarification that I tried to clean up with the Congressman from New Jersey before when the when the two municipal officers were one was hoisted.
	Can I jump on that that that two to three minutes because I get limited time here?
	That was seconds before uh crooks started firing.
	Not you okay, you had said earlier today it was two to three minutes, but you were saying seconds.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay.
	But had even if they're hoisting, your your testimony today, if I understood you correctly, it was two different officers that were hoisting to get a look at him, not the ones who were manned in this in this in this view.
	That is my understanding, yes, sir.
	Okay.
	So had they remained in there, they immediately would have seen the incident taking place if they were on the same line of communication and they could have taken the asset out.
	I'm remiss to say that because I don't know what their general rules of engagement and assignment were from the Secret Service.
	Just looks to me like a major breakdown of communication.
	This procedure looks to me like it is lapsed with the ability of someone who, if they entrust them with the ability to secure these perimeter, they ought to be uh empowered enough to be able to give the authority on their calms to issue a hold.
	I don't understand that.
	With that, I'd yield, Mr. Chairman.
	Gentleman yields.
	And I I I just uh I will I'm gonna say this uh because I have thoroughly enjoyed Both of your testimony today.
	And there are a lot of guys up here on both sides of the aisle that are charged about this.
	Communicate a lack of trust in the Pennsylvania State Police or I mean, you're you're being incredibly helpful today.
	Some of the things that we've discovered from your testimony have brought some frustration to our folks, and I hope you'll understand it in that context that it's the energy is not directed at you.
	The failure to set up appropriate communication systems and to make decisions when they become aware of someone pointing a range finder is...
	Is uh is what's got people upset.
	I just and that's on Secret Service.
	So I just wanted to make sure you all heard that from me.
	Mr. Chairman, if if my if I was amped up a little bit, I concur.
	So greatly respect what you do.
	I now recognize uh Ms. Lee for five minutes of testimony.
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for having this hearing and for organizing this committee's trip to Butler, Pennsylvania.
	For us, uh, being on the ground in Butler, Pennsylvania yesterday made clear the severity of the security failures on Saturday, July 13th.
	Those failures that almost allowed former President uh Donald Trump to be assassinated.
	Unfortunately, what has followed that failed assassination attempt uh is an erosion of public trust uh related to those responsible for keeping the Well, she goes over that.
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	Keeping the president and the attendees, and the other thing is that the first time making your money.
	Big waste of time.
	We've heard that because of a sloped roof, law enforcement was not able to safely secure the area that day.
	We've heard reports that certain officers abandoned their posts due to weather conditions.
	We've heard the Secret Service attempt to shift blame to state and local law enforcement, uh, asserting that they failed to secure certain areas in the perimeter.
	Secret Service Chief Cheadle's resignation this morning is the first of many steps that need to be taken.
	And today's hearing is just the beginning of our process to get clear, accurate information about this issue, about the failures associated with that day, and ensure that not only Congress, but that the American public get the answers that they deserve about these events.
	Mr. Yoes, I'd like to start with you.
	The Secret Service is always the lead in providing security for these types of events that involve one of their protectees, but they clearly rely on their partnerships with state and local law enforcement as they move to different locations around the country.
	Are you concerned that former Director Cheadle's comments to ABC News, which many people heard as blame shifting to local law enforcement could undermine the level of trust between state and local authorities and Secret Service when they come to communities around America?
	Uh yes, I absolutely do.
	And uh our organization actually issued a press release uh stating just that.
	Uh our our relationship, it's impossible for a federal agency to do their function without including local law enforcement.
	That's that's a given.
	Uh and that relationship is built on trust.
	And when comments were made like what made on ABC, then we felt the need to to uh call her out on it.
	And do you believe that the federal government statements to the public, to the American people after this attempted assassination have helped or harmed public trust and law enforcement overall?
	You know, I'll say this.
	The very powers that we have are the the uh ability to do our job as law enforcement officers is directly related to trust.
	And in an investigation, there's a fine line between what you do uh in order to protect an investigation and also be accountable to the public you serve.
	And when you don't walk that fine line, then it does create distrust, and it does cause uh a lot of confusion.
	It law causes people to fill in their own blanks, and as a result, this is what we see.
	Sharing accurate information is important to keep everyone informed so that it doesn't run in different directions.
	And as the American people wait for an after-action report, what can or should law enforcement agencies at any level be doing to address concerns about transparency and protect that public trust?
	Well, I I'll I'll start right here.
	I mean, you have the Pennsylvania State Police has given it filled in a lot of gaps that should have been filled in a long time ago.
	This is information that should be known to everyone.
	Uh it is it is you know, essential facts, it doesn't change.
	It is what it is, and sharing this information lets everyone know exactly uh what occurred and gives us some insight of things that we need to correct.
	And you've been here now throughout this day, throughout questioning from a number of members of this committee.
	As this committee continues to investigate the failures that resulted in this shooting, what are some of the key questions that you believe should be asked about the assassination attempt as well as the management and organization of Secret Service more broadly?
	Well, you know, again, I I have to to you know be upfront in the fact that I have no direct knowledge to to this incident or uh things that unfold.
	I'll just speak in just general terms.
	The first question that I think we all need to ask is with so many elevated positions available, what steps were taken to protect those assets?
	I don't know the answer to that, but uh there were a lot of places.
	I mean, we we learned a lot of lessons going back to her to President Kennedy.
	Higher locations create unique problems, and as a result, they should have been part of any action plan.
	I'm not saying they weren't.
	I'm just saying that we we see the end result of what happened here, so obviously we have a failure there.
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
	I yield back.
	The gentlelady yields back and now recognize uh the gentleman in whose district this tragedy occurred.
	Fine representative from Pennsylvania, Mr. Kelly.
	All right.
	Thank you, Mr. I appreciate uh Chairman Green's allowing me to be here, and then also to be in Butler yesterday, uh where it's my hometown.
	I'm four miles from this location.
	Um my concern actually started on July the 5th when I was told that President former President Trump was coming to Butler, and I said, that's great.
	And they said, Yeah, and he's gonna be at the Butler Farm show.
	I said, You must mean the big butler fair.
	They said, No, the Butler Farm show.
	I said, um, who did a site visit?
	The answer is we've already made our determination.
	My question then was so what then what you just told me is nobody has been to that site.
	I will just tell you right now that what you are planning there is not proper for the crowd that's going to show up.
	At that point, the person on the phone said, Mr. Kelly, there'll be six or seven thousand people there.
	I said, Well, that tells me even more about the fact that you have no idea where you're going and historically what is it.
	Chad, do me a favor.
	There's like three thousand of you guys watching a rumble.
	Can you guys do me a huge favor?
	Huge, huge favor.
	Pause what you're doing, open up another tab on YouTube, watch the video on YouTube and like the video, guys.
	Let's get this thing up to 2K Live viewers.
	Like the video, man.
	Let's get the description.
	And uh really appreciate that, guys.
	That helps me a lot if you guys do that.
	So just open up another tab on your window, do it on your phone, whatever, play it in the background, and uh let it um let it go ahead and uh and like the video.
	Oh, hold on.
	And I think forever now, people were going to look at what happened and say, we knew there was something wrong.
	We could see it.
	YouTube channel name is Fed Reacts, guys.
	Fed Reacts.
	I'll drop the link in here for y'all.
	Acted quicker, Mr. Compertori would still be alive today.
	As Fed reacts, guys, Fed reacts.
	President Trump would not have been wounded, and two other people who were that day would not have been wounded.
	And in a greater sense, the American people have been wounded in a way that they have lost faith, trust, and confidence in how we protect certain people.
	This goes far beyond that, and I appreciate you both being here, and I'll tell you what, you really have given us testimony based on what your whole careers have been about, and that is protecting people.
	For some reason, on July 13th, we knew something was wrong.
	Every person I've talked to that was there that day or responsible for protection says we did our job.
	And I said, So then you're saying that somebody else didn't do their job.
	And the answer is, well, that's to be decided later on.
	So I would just say somebody else didn't do their job.
	And the answer is, well.
	I meant what I said.
	I think the American people now are deeply wounded, and the faith, trust, and confidence we need to have in our government is been fading, has been fading for too long.
	That's true.
	No one trusts the government anymore.
	I was there with the Pennsylvania State Police.
	I've talked to the Pennsylvania since that.
	Mr. Yoes, thank you for your your career.
	But at the end of the day, we don't have the answers we need to have.
	And I just I said it earlier and I mean it.
	There was no reason for Corey Comprovatory to be dead today.
	There is no reason for President Trump to have been wounded or two other members in the audience that day to have been wounded, had we done what we knew before we let it go any further than that.
	That could have been stopped early on.
	Nobody can convince me that when people see somebody on the roof of a house of a building and pointing to him and yelling, there's somebody up there that needs to be taken care of, and other people who were there that eyewitnesses said they watched him go onto those grounds, and every time they said there's something wrong, somebody is going in the wrong direction and shouldn't be there, and the answer comes down.
	You don't know what you're talking about.
	There's nobody there.
	So as we continue looking at this, and I think that we have a lot of testimony today.
	And when again, I thank you for being there.
	But I I just submit to you that uh the victims of that day.
	Innocent people.
	None of it had to happen.
	We knew beforehand, and we could have prevented it, but we failed to act when we should have acted.
	So I appreciate your careers and everything you've done.
	And Chairman, I appreciate the fact that I've been able to be here.
	If you didn't even ask that you came to our district, yeah, bro.
	In a town that I have lived, this spot is a place I've been at many, many, many times.
	Uh I just cannot understand why we didn't act when we knew there was something wrong.
	At the very least, they could have taken President Trump off the podium, and some of the other activity after that never would have taken place.
	So thank you for for having me.
	You just want to yeah, bro.
	Thank you very much.
	This is just one of the yeah, yeah, it has no questions.
	Thank you so much for being here.
	Oh, Congress.
	I appreciate it, but there is far, far what we have to do.
	Thank you, sir.
	These guys just get too excited sometimes.
	We're going to do uh another round of questioning.
	And uh I don't know, Mr. Gray, if you are gonna want to ask any other questions or have a couple of years.
	Sounds good.
	So you'll you'll follow me and then we'll go around.
	Um, I just want to get back to this text message that was sent at about 20 to 25 minutes prior.
	Um that text message was a picture of crooks.
	Was it a picture of him pointing the rangefinder or of him just looking suspicious?
	Chairman, I I had have not seen the picture that was sent, so I I don't know.
	But my understanding is to the best of my briefings, it was the pictures that were initially taken by Butler ESU.
	Okay, so that was the 62-minute prior.
	Okay.
	At 20, 25 minutes prior, though, someone saw him pointing a rangefinder and tanky taking range estimation or range readings, right?
	I think I don't want to speculate as to what he actually was doing with the rangefinder, but the rangefinder, my understanding is tightened was the heightened uh suspicion, yes, sir.
	And he was he was pointing it.
	I mean, he was I mean, because a rangefinder, I guess you can have it digital and do it like this, and but there are also range finders you look through and you have a reading.
	Can you do you know description of the range finder?
	I I I it was not briefed to me, I guess.
	Okay.
	But there was concern, and that was relayed to the guy's in the middle of the making model of it.
	And that was a PSP guy in the Secret Service Command post via a text message 20-something minutes before, and you think it included the fact that the guy had a rangefinder.
	My understanding is yes.
	Okay, okay.
	Um you mentioned that the two ESU guys that were in the second story, it's honestly it in truth, it to me, it appears to be a second building behind it that got joined by all these different the breakup of that whole complex and the intricacies of you know places to hide and move around,
	you know, all the little alleyways is because they built tunnelways or uh not tunnels, but uh hallways that were covered between each of these different buildings.
	So it's actually a separate building with a amended.
	Yep.
	So there are two guys in that building, they leave to go look for the guy.
	The suspicious person.
	My understanding is uh yes, according to interviews.
	So so they were not manning, they did not have oversight on that rooftop because they were out looking for the guy.
	Correct.
	My understanding is it was a the grounds around there at to see it photographed now or on your tour yesterday without scores of people traversing from different parking areas to make ingress into the uh secure perimeter that uh there was a a concerted effort to try and identify and make contact with him.
	Sure.
	In conjunction with other I was briefed that there were two other suspicious individuals that simultaneous to this, not terribly uh too far away, distance wise.
	I don't have the specifics, but those all occurring contemporaneously.
	But one of them, crooks had a rangefinder, and so they leave and they go look, he's suspicious.
	Uh that leaves that building with two sets of eyes that could have observed it, granted by exposing themselves.
	And and by the way, I would think they could stay in the building uh as opposed to being on top of it for their own sort of default position.
	I I get that as a sniper works.
	Uh, but you know, you got to be able to see it.
	So anyway, they leave.
	Did they note was Secret Service notified that they were leaving to go look for this guy, and thus those eyes on top of the building not?
	I do not know.
	And the other thing that I do not know is where where else Butler ESU uh sent that information.
	I have not been briefed on that.
	Who told them who told them to go look?
	Do you know if they were told to go look?
	You're not gonna know this.
	We just know that they did go look.
	Guys, he's not gonna know any of this.
	I said a very concerted effort with all of those alcoves and all of the state police Pennsylvania State has made there were two additional need to come in.
	I again I don't know the specifics of the timeline.
	I don't know the specifics of the logistics of how that information was relayed, but I'm I'm briefed that they came and they made a very concerted effort to try and locate uh crooks.
	But it seems to me that that was leaving that extra set of eyes on top of the building.
	Uh you know, I just it it would be something I, if I were the site commander at that point, I'd want to know two guys are leaving a post where they have observation on a on a building, and that somebody relayed that to me so that I would know, oh, wait a minute, now two sets of eyes that were on the building.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's like if you pull security, if you pull your lateral security in a in a in an ambush or something, you're I'm talking like an army guy now.
	And the commander's gonna know that that that guy's moved away from there and now he's got a blind spot, right?
	So I just want to make sure I want to dig into that a little more.
	Obviously, you don't have the answer, so we'll we'll dig elsewhere.
	But I find it interesting that they leave that it this guy is so suspicious, has a rangefinder, they leave their post that they are manning to go look for him.
	Yet Secret Service, and they get told about it 20 to 25 minutes beforehand, but Secret Service still lets the president go on the stage.
	I'm just totally blown away by that.
	But uh again, there's more details to be had.
	Thank you for for being here.
	I really appreciate it.
	I'm gonna turn it over now to the ranking member for uh his five minutes of questioning.
	Gentlemen, thank you for being here today.
	Um, we're looking at a rear view mirror of what happened.
	A lot of good questions from both sides of the aisle.
	Commissioner Paris, you don't have the luxury of time.
	You're protecting governor, and you'll be protecting high profile candidates in your battleground state, like right about now.
	I'm trying to figure out how we help you do your job a whole lot better.
	Uh Mr. Kelly, his line of questioning was interesting, and I consider it important because that's his background.
	That's his backyard.
	And he asked, who decided the site of the event?
	It's a good question.
	Bigger question is who okay who approves the site of an event?
	And I come back to what I said earlier, which is one of those officers on the ground said, Lou, he said, who's in charge?
	The Secret Service says good or bad.
	Does the campaign they then say good or bad, or does the campaign have the ability to override the Secret Service at an event?
	And I say, and I asked this question from you, Commissioner Paris.
	You're going to have to make these decisions here real soon.
	As if I'm here, that's the question where you're at today.
	Bro, today you've learned some lessons.
	The 13th to today, we've all learned some lessons, and you have to execute, sir.
	And it's not your responsibility.
	It's not our responsibility.
	It's all of us our responsibility.
	And I want to know how we can help you clarify these lines of command, so to speak, to make sure that we minimize the possibilities of this happening again.
	Who makes the decisions?
	Who is in charge?
	What are the lessons we've learned today, gentlemen?
	They're not kids, dude.
	What is it that we can do to make sure that it's not going to be out of your shoulders?
	You're not going to be able to resign.
	Bro.
	You have to execute, please.
	And that's why these Congress people piss me off sometimes.
	They're very fucking condescending, dude.
	We're in the legislature in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
	We are very supported.
	And we have the resources, I believe, moving forward to rise to the occasion.
	But I think that's a good question.
	The Secret Service remains the agency with the most experience traditionally when you talk about organizational knowledge to carry this forward.
	Like, bro, this guy's like the head of the state police.
	He doesn't give a fuck what you think, you stupid congressman.
	Like, bro, the fuck, man.
	Condescending dickhead for no reason.
	You do better.
	Shut up, nigga.
	He's not the lead.
	Civilian and enlisted Pennsylvania State Police show up every day to do.
	We will do.
	We want a robust republic, and we want to secure people's ability to express their views.
	And we have worked diligently and will continue to work diligently to make sure that that happens, sir.
	Commissioner Parris, you are the thin blue line.
	Keeps us safe.
	Secret service is an even thinner line.
	It keeps, in many ways, our democracy functioning, protecting us.
	They have to score a hundred percent.
	They cannot let one bad thing happen as they did on the 13th.
	I want to make sure that we know that we give the Secret Service the ability to make those decisions when it comes to the safety of our candidates and elected officials.
	And for the third time, I'm going to repeat those words that were told to me by an individual, law enforcement individual on the ground when he said, Lou, who's in charge?
	Is it the campaign or is it the Secret Service?
	And I'd like to get to the bottom of that and make sure it's the secret service that's in charge.
	I don't know who is in charge, and I hope to God that we do find out.
	So...
	And I hope it's a Secret Service.
	Whoever wrote the ops plan and signed off on it is who's in charge, man.
	These Congress people are boneheads, bro.
	Remember, we're talking to a fucking top guy state police as if he's gonna have the fucking answers.
	Bro, their job is to escort the president with their fucking marked units, be there as a presence.
	That's it.
	Chairman, I yield.
	These guys and Mr. Yoes, I appreciate your uh charge.
	Uh nigga, shut up.
	Uh being in continuing and throw this questioning.
	And uh I would submit um that um is Congressman.
	I think your candor, Colonel Parris, has been very refreshing, and it paints a clear contrast from the uh what was uh the testimony of the director of the Secret Service yesterday, who's now resigned.
	But her resignation doesn't resolve a thing.
	And in fact, the criminal investigation that your department, your department is undertaking, that uh presumably uh Butler authorities may be involved in, FBI is undertaking, those don't really resolve anything.
	They they have a fixed criminal liability of someone who's presumably, if they acted alone is dead.
	The the what is the most important issue is we have a national security crisis.
	We have right now, according to the only person who's been inactivated, as I understand it, is the sharpshooter who took the uh the uh PERP out.
	The people who made what appear to be unbelievably horrendous decisions.
	You can't even imagine it boggles the mind, the decisions that were made.
	They're still in place.
	And we have multiple protectees moving around the country every day.
	And those same people, I don't even know if they've changed anything about what they're doing.
	Presumably you would think so, but we don't know that.
	So I think we need to learn as much as possible from you.
	I I will say, as a note of departure, I don't think I from what I've heard, you have made pretty clear the Pennsylvania State Police didn't do anything wrong.
	I don't know whether Butler County ESU might have done something wrong.
	So let me bear into the Okay, all right.
	But it's clear to me as a bell that Secret Service, and that's everyone's characterized it as a colossal failure, because it's obvious to everyone concerned that that's the case.
	The two who were I'm gonna get one thing I understand trend transpired while I was absent from the hearing for a bit.
	Do I understand that the two Butler ESU officers who one hoisted the other to the roof line where the uh crooks turned to the presentation?
	This you guys know that's not the same agency, is this?
	Those were two different ESU officers than the ones that originally spotted the first from the site.
	The other guys are local police.
	He's state police.
	Just to be clear, my understanding is the two officers that responded and one hoisted up the second one were not part of Butler ESU.
	They were two separate municipal officers who were tasked with a different responsibility.
	I would speculate as an example to say a traffic post or a uh Understood.
	And and they responded.
	I don't know again the specifics as to how they were alerted.
	But just to be clear, they were too small.
	Okay.
	The ESU, the Butler ESU officers who honestly, I'll just stop talking to the trooper and bring those motherfuckers in immediately.
	From the second floor of the AGR building?
	That is my understanding, yes, sir.
	Were they posted there in at in order to maintain overwatch on the roof?
	Um, or were they generally assigned roving responsibility to be in the vicinity of that building?
	I can't answer that, and I would defer to the Secret Service as to what this communication was in the assignment given.
	Uh yeah, you got that picture of the building up.
	I see that because I asked for it, I don't even know if I'll fit it in at this point.
	So that's uh yeah, you see, so the uh um crooks was on the building directly facing the camera here, and you see the window open to the left.
	That's the second story of the AGR building where those ESU officers spotted crooks, correct?
	That's my understanding.
	Okay.
	Did they advise their senior, you know, their command that they were departing that location to look for crooks?
	Do you know that?
	I do not know, sir.
	Why did they stay away from that position for so long?
	If I understand correctly, the picture of crooks was texted about 20, 25 minutes ahead of the shooting.
	Is that correct, first of all?
	Could you ask me that one more time, sir?
	I just want to make sure because of this.
	Was the picture of crooks that they took?
	Did they take that picture about and send it to uh up into to their command about 20, 25 minutes before the shooting?
	What I want to be specific about is uh when the PSP member in the command post received it, and I believe that's in the vicinity of 20 to 25 minutes with the caveat prior put on the record about a series of events, not a timeline minute by minute.
	So you don't know when they I don't specifically know.
	I believe the uh the pictures of crooks were taken at some point before that, when he was identified as being suspicious based on my prior testimony from the briefings that I had because he was Okay, I get it.
	At least we have got a fairly long numbers of minutes, 10, 15, 20 minutes.
	Why didn't they not return to that post?
	Do you know that?
	I do not know, sir.
	I my understanding is that there was a very concerted effort at that point to actively search and locate him and dispel that suspicion.
	You you you mentioned that you have asked for, not received.
	I don't know if you call it the site plan, but from the Secret Service has not been given to you.
	Has there been anything else that you've asked for in the course of your investigation that's been denied or made inaccessible to you other than the site plan?
	Again, I I want to be clear.
	Um no, I'm not aware of anything else that we've asked for, and we have not been denied.
	I I just believe we haven't received it yet.
	So I want to make sure I'm not mischaracterizing uh that we asked for it, and we have yet to receive it.
	Yeah, we never get denied stuff, we just never get it.
	Uh my time having expired, I recognize the gentleman from New York, Mr. Lelotto.
	Thank you, Chairman.
	Uh Colonel, I want to uh reiterate um the appreciation this committee has for your energy, your stamina, your focus, your candor.
	Um it's regrettable that some of our federal colleagues are not at the table with you today.
	Um we would have liked to extract for them some of the facts uh from ten days ago.
	Uh my colleagues from both sides of the aisle, I think asked good fair questions of you, and you gave good uh fair, accurate responses to them that helps us understand July 13th uh a little more.
	It was only 10 days ago.
	We're probably only in the infancy uh of that investigation of our oversight responsibilities, but you've provided us a lot.
	Um I want to use the remainder of my time to look forward.
	Uh, there's gonna be a lot of uh conjecture about what happened, who's at fault, but putting that aside.
	Um we've talked about flaws that happened on July 13th, be it tactical flaws about communication, strategic ones like lack of drones, administrative ones like command and control and who has what authority, what are the rules of engagement?
	So I wanted to ask you, Colonel, and and it's been said Pennsylvania is gonna have a number of uh more rallies, appearances, uh, where the public is going to interact with presidential candidates from both sides of the aisle.
	Um what are you gonna do?
	How are you gonna assert yourself in your leadership role to reduce the likelihood of an incident like this specifically with respect to tactics?
	We we understand that radio communications uh were a weakness.
	Do you have a perspective on looking forward how you might command your officers in a different manner to ensure that from a tactical perspective, specifically with communications, um these events are held differently in the future, sir?
	So yes, I will start with uh referring to the testimony of Congressman Lutrell about um reinforcing and reiterating uh to try and mitigate any potential complacency.
	The Pennsylvania State Police maintains the Pennsylvania Criminal Intelligence Center.
	We're always trying to lean forward and glean as much criminal intelligence as we can, not only uh generated within the ranks of the Pennsylvania State Police, but our local partners, our county partners, and then through task force uh collaborations that we have with multiple federal agencies.
	Uh I can tell you that we will not back away from the Secret Service.
	Uh we will lean forward to support them, and all of the resources of the Pennsylvania State Police will be brought to bear to keep Pennsylvanians and those visiting the Commonwealth safe.
	Have you considered communications specifically?
	Different radios, training on those radios, other communications device it be it digital or voice or whatever.
	Uh have you considered prospectively uh either acquire new technology, implementing new training, or otherwise developing tactics that allow not only state and local to communicate.
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	You show love to your buddy and does got a touch.
	Or a major investigation, a Cavalcante manhunt, an Eric Freen manhunt, uh 95 bridge disaster, a ratio guys means like when you post something and like it has less views, but it has way crazy likes.
	That means like everyone's liking it.
	And that typically hits the top.
	A lot of engagement.
	The derailment of a train on the border with uh Pennsylvania, six-hour running gun battle in Juniana County, we're always looking uh to get better, and communications that we maintain are critical.
	Yeah, groomass is a loser on you committed.
	Fuck that kid.
	You know, we will we will try to get better.
	There is something that somebody's uh these future endeavors, which we've committed at the top of the testimony to be a part of uh proves that we can be better.
	We're always looking every day to get better.
	I know that members are allowed to through the appropriations process advocate for more resources to come to their state and local federal uh the state and local law enforcement partners for things like communications devices.
	I know that I've been able to lean into that process here, and I would sure that Mr. Kelly and others from the Pennsylvania delegation would uh endeavor to use federal funds to help augment your ability to increase your ability to communicate among each other and also with federal partners.
	Uh I want to move to to strategy.
	Thinking a little more outside the bubble in the days and weeks leading up to an event.
	Um Colonel, do you have a sense on prospective technology that we use like drones, other decisions you might make, like stationing somebody on a nearby high?
	Also, just to explain ratio again.
	Like, look, so PBD puts the the thing out, right?
	1.3k likes.
	If we hit 1.3 and he has 149k views, we only have 4.9 K views.
	See the point?
	So that's so we have like almost not even a tenth of the engagement, but over half the likes.
	So that's what and you get a bunch of look, we already beat them for the retweeting.
	So that's the ratio.
	That's what I mean with ratio, guys.
	2.7k comments, right?
	So we need to get this uh we need to get this higher than this.
	Because his engagement uh is we're out 5.3 when and it's just climate.
	So that's what I mean, guys, when it gets engaged, because it's going to hit the top of this thing.
	It's like, damn, this is what the people want.
	Vantage Point, Laika Water Tower.
	You've heard some feedback from some informed members here today.
	Are are those things helpful for you to plan moving forward to seize opportunities, both technological and physical, for events moving forward?
	Short answer is yes.
	Uh, you know, our undercover assets and the surveillance and uh intelligence gathering is something we rely on heavily.
	We do have uh some drone capabilities that we're always looking to augment, but they're a phenomenal tool, and certainly uh their use will only expand into the future, probably long after uh my career and somebody who you know comes well after, but we're always looking to lean forward and uh do the job better.
	And the text message was sent to Was there any comment or discussion in the command center about the advisability of keeping the president off the stage until the matter was resolved, either at that moment or later?
	I I do not know, and I would only underscore what I said before the distinction between suspicion versus uh a threat at that point.
	I think concerning, but it was still the perspective at the time was uh suspicious and and not yet a threat.
	Um how did so so the information was relayed from ESU officers to a PSP officer?
	That's is that correct?
	Do I understand that correct?
	Yes.
	Uh did ESU have command uh officers in the command center?
	That was asked earlier, and and like I said, I received a briefing that my understanding was that there were uh Butler County representatives in the command post, but I I cannot definitively tell you uh from any briefings that I've had uh who and when they were there.
	Do you have any insight why the Butler ESU officers transmitted that information to a PSP representative rather than to a butler ESU representative in the command center?
	I understand that there was uh you know they the Butler ESU person from whom it came and the PSP member to whom it was sent had they essentially knew One another.
	Was there any mechanism in place to monitor the location presence of the ESU officers who were in the at the second floor window and departed from there to go look for crooks.
	Was that any kind of communication ongoing in the command command center with that about that?
	I don't know.
	Right.
	Is that a regular practice in PSP's PSP operations to have someone monitoring the location presence, posting, absence from posts of members of your force?
	I would say in general, you need to know where your assets are deployed, but I would also say, depending on what the prior rules of engagement are, there may be a situation that could realistically outside of the example we're discussing today, that you know, we would expect our people to make a um and a decision in the immediate moment to address another issue.
	All right.
	I yield back.
	And uh recognize the gentleman from California, Mr. Correy, for five minutes.
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
	Again, gentlemen, thank you for being here.
	Um something Mr. Lalota said that uh I want to emphasize and underline, which is uh gentlemen, I hope you lean forward when it comes to making decisions, making what your gut tells you is the right decision when you're out there trying to protect American lives, especially those of candidates.
	The situation is an interesting one because in this committee, we have been talking about domestic terrorism as big being a bigger threat to the United States than foreign terrorism.
	In this fucking thing, I would imagine, based on the facts that we know him today, this this is a domestic individual.
	God knows what motivated him to do what he's doing.
	Um he was looking up information according to what I've read.
	He was looking up both Democrat and Republican candidates.
	God knows what set him off or where he was going or what targets he was really focused on, other than possibly the opportunity.
	This is not good news because this is essentially a lone wolf, it would appear that just God knows what motivated him.
	And I'm bringing this up because Mr. Yos, you you represent thousands of police officers in this country.
	A lot of them doing the job to the best of their abilities.
	And yet these are challenges that are very hard to take on.
	How do you I mean, based on what your officers say out there?
	What is it that we can do to make your job better?
	What is it that we can do to begin to get a grip on these lone wolf attacks that are domestically motivated and grown?
	Well, sir, I'm not too sure.
	I have an easy answer for you on that one.
	I will tell you that we live in an extraordinary times right now where we uh we we've gone from talking to people to talking at people.
	And I I think what you see over a period of time, this is eroded to a part where guys, I'm gonna go to fucking sleep.
	This guy, this these dudes, the the number one, they're dragging this.
	The state police guy doesn't have answers for anything real.
	It's like, bro, you gotta talk to the fucking FBI.
	We need to talk to the FBI.
	We gotta know what the hell is going on in the investigation.
	That's gonna be what really happens.
	So that's what I want to see.
	Guys, do me a favor, go like the video on YouTube.
	All right, I'm in the stream there.
	Just gave you guys a bonus one, dude.
	I'm fucking still haven't slept yet.
	I'm a little bit delirious.
	It's 2 26 in the afternoon slept since last night.
	Um, but uh I'll definitely do an episode when the FBI comes in.
	I'm gonna live stream now.
	So stay tuned, guys.
	We'll keep covered this hearing because they're gonna be interviewing a bunch of people.
	Love y'all ninjas.
	We'll be back uh on Fed Reacts maybe this week.
	Maybe this week.
	And uh love you guys.

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