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April 29, 2024 - MyronGainesX
02:06:02
Fed Explains Mass Murderer Brian Nichols
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You won't believe how old she is.
You won't believe how old she is.
You won't believe how old she is.
And we're live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to FedReac.
We're going to be covering the Brian Nichols case, man.
This is one that you guys requested.
Let's get into it.
Let's get into it.
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Alright, and we're back.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the uh Fed Reacts Podcast, as you guys know.
We do this every Sunday.
Welcome to the show.
You can be anywhere else with us, but you are you can be sorry, you can be anywhere else in the world, but you're here with us right now.
Watch some true crime on the best true crime YouTube channel on here.
Angie is you guys have come to know learn in love.
How are you, Angie?
You want to say what's up to the people real fast?
Yeah, um, I'm good, good.
It's been a crazy couple of days.
Uh we're finally here, and we're finally covering this guy Brian Nichols, which was programmed for like two weeks ago, but um we couldn't do it because something happened.
I can't remember what it was.
We were traveling.
We're in California.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We went to the late.
Uh, but no, but you felt bad uh one day we're sick, and yeah, so this is.
I was sick, LA and we had Vegas as well.
Yeah.
So this has been postponed for like three weeks now.
Even right now, I feel like crap, guys.
But we're here.
You know, that yacht party was crazy.
Um, you know, we had a bunch of guys show up.
Um it was awesome meeting a bunch of you guys.
I got a bunch of messages from guys saying, hey, I had a great time.
It was a lot of fun.
That yaw party was crazy.
Uh the live event was crazy.
Obviously, I didn't foresee that uh Wes and Andrew would have a little bit of a disagreement.
Um, but you know, obviously everything ended up being uh peaceful at the end.
It was a good time, it was a good show.
Um and um just just real quick, uh um what was I gonna say?
Uh do you want to tell the people like any announcement that we have as far as like uh upcoming things with Fed Reacts?
What do you mean?
Like as far as like the Instagram, TikTok, anything like that.
Oh yeah.
Um, well, yeah.
Uh well, you know, the Fed React channel is the only one that is up right now that is like left from this whole banning situation.
Um give us ones in the chat if the audio is good, by the way, guys.
Give us ones in the chat for my audio, Andy's audio, etc.
Sorry, continue, Andy.
So follow up Fed Reacts on Instagram.
It's at FedReacts, just that, Fed Reacts.
Uh, also on TikTok, Fed Reacts.
Follow uh FNF Reach, French Fit, Fred of Fit TikTok, all the six hocks that I'm mining in right now, trying to get these guys like up there now that they're banned everywhere.
Even on overwatch.
Martin is finally banned on overwatch.
I was streaming overwatch earlier, as you guys know.
I'm using um China Man, he has he gave me two accounts to use, so I have been using those.
Yeah.
I told you you were gonna get banned.
He did.
You know, it is what it is, guys.
But we're here.
We're here though after this crazy um uh weekend.
I don't know if you guys watched the live stream from the boat.
It was crazy.
I watched it a little bit on the YouTube one because I think the Rumble one is like lagged or something.
Yeah.
Um, the uh oh the uh you mean like on YouTube or on Rumble.
It's like laggy.
It is?
Yeah, it's like oh fucked up.
Yeah, let me message the scroll real quick about that.
But yeah, um, also I am very excited because I am uh um, yeah, I'm gonna make uh vlog channel for the trips that we're gonna do.
So it's gonna be kind of like what Fresh was doing with his luck channel.
But this is gonna be like kind of mine in and mine and like all the stuff with French and Fit Troubles and like the stuff that we do outside.
And I already recorded just uh one that was like a test.
Um it didn't end it right now.
I'm the process of editing it.
And uh it's gonna be cool, guys.
So we're gonna I think we're gonna drop it on um Maybe next week.
Franca uh Francas Castle Club.
Castle Club.
Castle Club, and then um I think I'll post it on YouTube so we can have uh a little bit of us on YouTube.
Not demonetized.
Cool.
I mean monetized.
Um and King Darula, uh, shout out to you goes.
Um hey Martin, can you break down the polygraph test in SF86 forum?
Also, how long does it take to get a T S S E can I begin working only with an interim uh at a place like the FBI?
Okay, really good question.
So um the polygraph, so this is what's gonna happen.
You're gonna fill out your SF86.
And for some of you guys that are wondering.
All right, give me ones in the chat if you guys want me to break this down because I can go into detail about this.
Some of you guys might want to be government employees, and this might help you in the future.
So give me ones in the chat if you guys want me to explain this, the whole polygraph, SF86 situation.
Because I was gonna give King Darula a very quick response, but some of you guys in the chat might want to become federal agents in the future at work for the government.
So maybe I can go ahead and explain this in a little bit more detail.
All right, one.
Uh I'm seeing let's see here.
Let's see mostly what it is.
All right.
It's the same people, the people that are saying two, there's spamming too, but most people are saying ones on YouTube and on Rumble.
All right.
So the SF 86, guys, and I'll show this to you guys real quick.
All right.
SF eighty six.
Right.
Um, let's go ahead and go into screen share real fast.
So you go into SF-86, right?
This is it.
Questionnaire for national security positions, right?
Uh let me enlarge this for y'all real fast.
So you're gonna go ahead.
This thing is long.
Okay, you're gonna fill out all of your stuff, right?
All your information, right?
Name, date of birth, all this crap, right?
He's gonna ask you about drug, he's gonna ask you about all this stuff.
The point is this, and here is the key that you guys are gonna take away from this.
Anytime you do an SF-86 and you know you're gonna be polygraphed.
Make sure that whatever you put in the SF-86, you're truthful, and it lines up with whatever you say in the polygraph.
The worst thing you can do is put something or not or not put something in SF86, then go on the polygraph and admit to something that you lied about on the SF-86.
Does that make sense?
Okay.
That is the worst thing you could do.
Literally.
One more time for you guys.
Whatever you do, make sure whatever you put on the SF 86 matches what's gonna be on your polygraph.
Don't omit anything.
So, in other words, if you put on your SF 86, I've never done done a drug in my life.
Then you go on the polygraph and you say, oh yeah, I smoked weed one time, that's a problem.
That's a discrepancy.
That's gonna be looked at as a lack of candor, and you can absolutely not get the job because of that because they look at it as you're not trustworthy and you're not forthcoming and you're not truthful, all right?
Lack of candor is the term they use.
Yo, just let me start the show real quick.
Hey, Top Laiko 556.
You want to go ahead and talk shit about me and make fun of me?
Fine.
But you're gonna stop with the fucking comments about Angie.
If you don't, I'm gonna fucking block your dumb ass.
All right.
This is gonna be the first and last time I tell you this shit.
You fucking loser.
All you do is make negative comments about her for no fucking reason when she works really hard behind the scenes to help me out with this shit.
Okay?
So shut the fuck up and stop talking shit about her.
You bitch ass nigga.
If you keep talking about her, I'm gonna literally ban you forever.
Okay?
I'm all about free speech, but I'm not about free retards.
And you're a fucking retard right now.
Cut the shit, man.
You want to make fun of me, you want to solve me?
That's fine.
I signed up for this shit.
She fucking didn't.
All right, drag her here every fucking Sunday to this Fed reacts with me, and she did endures weirdos like you commenting and talking shit about her all the time because of me.
So what I'm gonna tell you right now is you're gonna stop talking shit.
And if you don't, I'm gonna fucking block your dumb ass and ban you from the chat, you fucking weirdo, man.
You fucking weirdo.
She didn't do anything to you, you piece of shit.
Keep calling her all these derogatory terms, refugee bitch, whatever the fuck you're saying.
You're a weirdo for that shit.
The fuck out of here, man.
All right, nigga, you banned.
You done.
That's his little piece of clout.
You you fucking dumb dumbass.
I'm over here giving, I'm uh giving value to the fucking people and your dumbass over here.
Yeah, ban this nigga forever, bro.
Get the fuck out of here, man.
Weirdos, man.
Disrespectful as fuck for no reason.
She never did nothing to you, bro.
The fuck is wrong with you?
If you have a beef with me, fine.
Talk shit about me, make fun of me all day.
But you're not gonna sit here and talk shit about her for no fucking weird reason, bro.
She never did nothing to you, you fucking whack job.
Anyway, back to what I was saying.
So just make sure, guys, that the SF 86 matches with whatever you say on the polygraph, okay?
Um, and SF 86 is any the form you're gonna do anytime you're gonna have a clearance, whether it's a secret, top secret, at T S S CI.
If you're gonna work for the FBI, you're gonna need a T S S CI.
Um, and then can you begin working only with interim at a place like the FBI?
They're probably not gonna let you in the building, bro, without a FBI without a T S S CI, or if you don't, if you're not cleared on your background, they're gonna give you what's called an escort.
Okay.
So um that's what it comes down to with the bureau.
Uh give me one, uh, give me ones in the chat if that made sense if that helped you guys out.
Give me ones in the chat.
Or twos if it doesn't make sense, and if it doesn't make sense, give me a two, and it's specifically why I didn't make sense.
All right.
Great question, King Darula.
I think a bunch of guys probably got some value from that.
And you know, some guys might be in the process right now where they're um, you know, trying to get a federal job, etc.
And there's no shame in that, guys.
There's no shame in working for the federal government.
You're gonna learn a lot of character building, you're gonna learn to not be a weirdo, you're gonna learn to keep your um your nose clean, avoid drugs, avoid alcohol, avoid all the bullshit, and uh, you know, it's it's a it's a very um prestigious and respectable career field, man.
Somebody asked what does escort mean?
Oh, okay.
Um so when you're not cleared, guys, when you don't have a clearance, what'll happen is when you're in government buildings, you'll need an escort.
What that means is like you won't be able to walk around the building yourself.
You're gonna need someone to like escort you around the building.
Oh, okay.
When you don't have your clearance on the colour.
Like an actual escort against the city.
Yeah, like like yeah, like an agent's gonna escort you around or somebody.
Yeah, they're gonna, yeah.
Okay.
So, like anytime someone doesn't have a clearance, that's what they do.
So uh, so yeah, good question.
Good question, Chan.
Thank you for catching that energy.
Um cool.
Does that all make sense for you guys?
Okay.
Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome.
Yeah, you guys know I'm all about free speech or whatever, but like when it but bro, like at some point it just starts to become ridiculous.
It's not even conducive to the real uh to the show anymore.
You're just over here saying calling her a refugee bitch and all this other weirdo shit, like for what, bro?
She never did nothing to you.
And like I said, y'all want to criticize me, that's fine, but y'all are not gonna fucking just talk shit to her when she's here, you know.
For me, really, to be honest with y'all.
Like it's really that's why she's here.
Because I drag her here.
So you're not gonna fucking disrespect her like that.
Um, so where are we at here?
No, do you remember do you remember the movie that we watched that the it was the serial killers?
Rem remember the last one we watched on in Vegas, I think it was.
Um the there was this scene that they did like a lineup of criminals for for the serial killer, and this girl, like she saw him.
It was the good first girl in the movie that saw the serial killer, but then it got compromised because she didn't have an uh she didn't have this escort thing that you're saying, and she went to the bathroom, and then when she came back, uh she saw on the way back.
Oh, okay.
She saw like somebody in Cuff.
Yes.
Wearing cuff.
And she was like, oh yeah, that's the guy.
What's the name of the movie we watched?
I know what you're talking about.
Little things.
The little things.
Okay.
Then so Washington and Rami Mulate.
All right, good point.
All right.
So uh, okay.
This movie right here, guys.
Uh pretty good movie, by the way, you guys should watch this.
It's a really good movie.
Me and me and Angie watched it.
Um The Little Things.
Okay.
It's a movie by Denzel Washington, okay?
It's weird uh from 2021, The Little Things.
And um in the movie, right, there's this guy, you know, committing these murders, et cetera.
And women.
Uh on women.
The point of the matter is this, right?
So whether it's a police department, a federal building, et cetera, when you have a clearance, um a lot of times if you're gonna work at a police department, you're not gonna have a clearance, it's not like you know, government stuff, so it's not gonna be a clearance.
However, they're gonna escort you around a lot of times in police departments, especially when you're a witness, okay?
And this is gonna be important because so in the movie, a girl is brought into the police station to look to identify someone from a lineup, right?
Where they, you know, put the people together, etc.
But one of the suspect is walked in with handcuffs, right?
And the girl sees him.
So before the the before they show her the lineup.
Uh-huh.
So what ends up happening is now that witness is tarnished and tainted.
And the reason why is because um it's called being uh unduly suggestive, I'm not mistaken.
Let me look this up.
Let me make sure.
Yeah.
According to Constitution, it's a violation of due process if it is unduly suggestive.
Examples can include things that like the being the only person of a certain race in a lineup or being the only person who matches the suspect's subscription.
So right, when I used to um have my cases, right?
I'd give them what we would call a six-pack or a six-photo array, right?
We would call a six-pack in the in the government world, but six-photo array.
And we had to make sure, right?
Every six-pack that I looked at, I'll look at and make sure that all, like my suspect was obviously one of the Pictures, right?
But the people all had to look together like alike.
Oh, okay.
So, like, so for example, if my suspect was black, oh the black males, I had to put five other black males on there.
If it was a white man, I had to put five other white males on there.
Hispanic, five other Hispanic males that look similar, similar facial hair, similar hair, similar facial features, etc.
Why?
The reason why, guys, is that it it shows that the individuals that's identifying them is able to pick them out of a photo array of similar individuals.
However, and I had this happen to me one time on a case where I the case, we couldn't do anything with it because someone fucked it up.
They gave a six-pack where the suspect looked way different than everybody else, and then the witness circled it.
Well, we couldn't use that anymore.
It was fucked up.
Couldn't use that six-pack anymore.
It was tainted.
And it was because of this situation right here, unduly suggestive.
And this is why it's so important, where witnesses, right?
Whether it's a police department or at a at a you know FBI headquarters, HSI headquarters, they're all escorted because to minimize shit.
Like that's just one reason why people are escorted, especially people that aren't um government employees or most importantly, witnesses.
If it's a witness and you're gonna have them identify somebody, oh yeah, they need to be in a room somewhere to by themselves, and then you walk in the perpetrators or whatever from the other side.
That's why most police departments and most um law enforcement agencies, they always have a front area where like you know, witnesses or visitors or whatever can come in.
And then they have a back area where you bring prisoners in.
You never bring prisoners in through the same entry where the regular people come in for that specific reason.
Obviously, it's Hollywood, right?
But that's a good point.
Um why a reason why a lot of times you want to um have people escorted.
So that's like an actual thing.
Yeah.
Does that make sense, chat?
Give me one's in a chat.
We're learning it today.
We're on SF 86s, unduly suggestive, um, six-pack photo arrays.
Give me one's in the chat that makes sense.
Two's if it doesn't make sense, and tell me why with the two after.
Okay.
Um, and then who else?
Uh what else?
What else?
What else?
Um, let's see what the chat says.
Give me ones if that makes sense for y'all.
And if it doesn't, give me a two and then tell me specifically why it doesn't make sense.
I want uh I I want Fed Reacts to be super educational for y'all, man.
And interactive.
Yeah, and interactive.
I want you guys to be able to walk away learning something.
Someone said two because I watched Innocent Reach.
Uh Jay Fix says W Big Bo Brett Myron, I have watched every single piece of your content since summers of 2022.
Thank you so much.
You're all you all are.
Farm worker has a good question here, I'll answer it.
Go ahead.
Okay.
You all are on my gym soundtrack every day.
Thanks for the motivation and inspiration.
Thank you for supporting my friend.
And I met so many of you guys um on the yacht.
Oh, make a lot of the live show, et cetera.
Shout out to the people that came up to me to say that they watched Fed Reacts.
I had a girl, like the girl that you signed the book for.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She was like, Yeah, she was really sweet.
Um, she told me, like, Andy, I love you.
I watch Fed Reacts all the time.
So it was really sweet to me.
Like a bunch of you guys come up to me and be like, Yeah, we really appreciate you on the show.
You know?
Yeah.
It's really good.
Uh so uh someone asked a really good question, too, and they said, uh, why five other people?
Um, so the reason why you bring five other, you could bring more guys, right?
You can make an eight-photo array, et cetera, but six is the traditional one.
Um, and you do six because it it's enough people where you could say, my witness identified them out of six other people.
Does that make sense, guys?
So it shows that um even with people looking alike, my witness was able to identify the individual, and what does that do that lends credibility to the witness?
Okay.
Cool.
That makes sense.
Great question, farm worker, great stuff.
I love when y'all ask like these good ass questions.
And then shout out to King the Ruler for getting it going.
Um and then King of the Rula asks again, he says, uh, here.
So Jenny, how long does the investigator take?
You said you can apply to other positions internally from non-1811 to special age, how's the normal, how's that normally done uh compared to just going on USA jobs for all sorry for all the questions.
Um so your background check, bro, depending on your background, is gonna take somewhere between I've seen it go as quick as four to twelve months.
So if you're and I'll tell you what's gonna make it longer.
If you're a foreign, if you used to be a foreign national and you naturalized, if your parents are foreign nationals, um, if you're from an interesting country, how long did it take you?
An adversarial country, it took me a lot.
My first background check took like six to eight months.
My first one.
It took a long time because my parents are from Sudan.
Oh and Sudan is one of them countries, if you know what I'm saying.
Hello, what you know they had to do their due diligence, and then my parents also weren't U.S. citizens.
Well, my parents were US citizens now, but they naturalized.
So they had to make sure all their paperwork was, you know, was good.
They didn't do no fraud and everything else like that with their immigration.
Um so it took it took a while for me.
Um it did take a while for me.
So um keep that in mind.
That's all gonna play into it.
Where you're from, are you were you born in the United States?
If you weren't born in the United States, were your parents born in the United States?
Uh, do you have a criminal history?
If you have a criminal history, that's gonna take a while.
They might bring you in to follow up on some questions or whatever it may be.
So um all of that stuff, man.
All of that stuff.
Good question.
But yeah, uh, for a top secret clearance, it's gonna typically take somewhere between four on the low end, uh, all the way up to eight to twelve months.
And be prepared, you're gonna have to renounce any citizenships you might have.
Oh shit.
Yeah, for any other countries.
To have a T S SCI, you almost always have to renounce uh any citizenship to another country for a T S SCI.
Uh cool.
I think uh we could start with the brand stuff.
Um good questions in the chat.
Love you guys when you guys asked us that stuff.
We have a few chats.
Okay, let's read them and then we'll get into today's uh pod.
Uh okay.
Uh we have King Colonel says, Hi Myron, great live channel Friday.
The next one will be ever more amazing.
Wes is a friend of the show, but he's not the entire show.
Keep out the great the great work, Dobby Angie.
I appreciate that, man.
And don't worry, guys.
Um we're gonna have Andrew Wilson on tomorrow.
He's gonna we're gonna have um Charlie Miguel tomorrow for money Monday.
Then we're gonna have um, then we're gonna have uh Andrew Wilson come on for the girls, and then Wednesday we got Sheikh Suleiman.
That's gonna be a good time.
Uh off of uh if you guys don't know, he's uh he's pretty big on X. Huge, huge audience on X. Twitter.
Uh yeah, Twitter.
Um and uh yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Like I said, it's it's great, man.
Bringing people on from all different backgrounds.
Uh so you know, you know what it is.
I I I I genuinely do value um free speech and bringing people on with different perspectives, right?
Obviously, um, you know, unless you're being super disrespectful for no reason, you're not even voicing free speech, you're just being a dickhead, you know, spamming the same shit over and over again.
Right.
You could like I said before, y'all could criticize me all you want, man.
It is what it is.
Talk your shit to me.
Yeah, I might get annoyed and whatever.
But uh, but but if it's gonna be Angie when she's showing up here, you know, simply just for me, to be honest.
Uh she wouldn't be here otherwise, then you know, we gotta show a little bit of support here.
Um cool.
Um I I love coming here though.
I love it.
No, I know, I know, but it's like you don't you you don't sign up for the bullshit, you know what I mean?
Like I signed up for this, not you.
So Yeah, that's uh Ken Rose thumbs up.
Thank you so much, Ken Rosal7.
Uh three pools says uh off topic, but you guys should look into the disappearance of Madeline McCann.
We'll love to see you and Angie's conclusions of on who done it, what really happened.
So Myron McCann is like top one most requested case from the UK now.
Because uh you guys have been asking for this for like a while now.
Um but the thing with what what happened with her with this case is that when I made the poll for the cases that we should do for the UK, the one that won the poll was the George Hard Reaper.
So we covered the George Hart Reaper.
That's what happened.
So you guys need to keep voting for Madeline McCann.
I know a lot about this case because I studied this a while ago.
I studied this like five years ago, six years ago, and um it's it is it's really crazy uh what happened.
Yeah.
So yeah, you guys need to vote and be active on Fed Reacts.
That's that's all that matters now.
Um I'm trying to get Myron to to like actually take care of the Instagram, so like to he can have an Instagram now or Fed Reacts because he doesn't have an Instagram, and I think he's going crazy.
I I mean it's not as bad as I thought it would be.
Um it is annoying more because like I I enjoyed posting like reels and you know getting the engagement up, and I think you guys enjoyed it too.
Uh that's really what pissed me off.
Because I never used to post on IG until like shout out to Sneaker.
He was telling me you need to start posting reels.
I was posting like two or three a day.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it is what it is.
Um Dok she posted 69 says, Hello, there are plenty of weirdos who work for the federal federal government.
NSAA uh literally has trainings working for them.
What?
What the hell?
Okay.
Uncle Luke, 1980 says, Ma, leave Lil Angie Angelone.
Anyway, I love for reacts.
My Sunday nights wouldn't be complete without Myron and Angie breaking down to true crime.
Also, I bought a Glock 45 just because of you, Myron.
Nice.
Nice.
That's good.
Good, good, good.
Um then Uncle Luke again.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll I also wish I could have uh came to the live event.
Unfortunately, I'm on a travel uh RN assignment and wasn't able to come.
I'm sure you guys will have more.
I definitely want to hang out with you guys.
Yeah.
Um more live events will be coming, guys.
Uh don't worry.
That's something that we really wanted to do this year, 2024.
So we'll do another one.
Maybe uh I think the other one's the next one's gonna be on either Toronto or again in Miami.
One of the two.
A bunch of people came from other states too.
Yeah.
Yeah, a lot of people came out, man.
It was really awesome to meet you guys in person and then party with you guys.
You guys know I don't drink alcohol, but you know, I did with a couple of things.
Oh, only a special occasion.
That's the first time I consumed booze like that.
I've never seen you like January of 2023.
Yes.
When we had our last yacht party, I think was January 19th.
Yeah.
So I had never seen him.
January 19th.
That's the first for me, definitely.
January 19th, man.
And was the last time.
And then, you know, we had the guys there, so I said, you know what?
You guys, you know, came here and everything.
We'll party and have a good time.
And I took them out to Club Space after.
Yeah, and then he came.
And then he came here saying that I was trafficking him, and that was I had him.
She was trafficking, man.
Kidnapped.
And I had I had him like against his will.
And he was a good one.
I see.
But nobody cared.
I did an experiment at the store, and nobody cared.
Fucking things.
I was like, yo.
I was like, yo, she's traffic, help me out.
Bro, I was at the store.
I said, yo, Angie's traffic, can you help me out?
What store?
We were talking about the city.
Nobody did nothing.
I ain't got.
I don't want to put them on blast.
But yo, nobody came to my aid.
They just started laughing at me, bro.
Of course, because he was with two girls alone, six foot with two five-foot girls at a restaurant that he's gonna be able to do it.
But I proved my experiment that nobody nobody helped me out.
He goes all the time to that restaurant.
Everybody knows him.
Everybody knows me.
All I'm telling y'all, ninjas is don't get kidnapped in traffic, because you ain't nobody coming to help you, bro.
I'll tell you that right now.
Nobody coming to help you, man.
They laughed at me in the restaurant, man.
Man, you look so cute, bro.
It was really funny.
Okay.
It was really really Uncle Luke says Instagram sucks without you, my dead ass.
I appreciate it, man.
Hopefully I'll be back.
Those shit posters goes, uh, are you gonna invite that Roy Range Luntigan?
I thought you were gonna castle his dumbass.
Guys, look, man.
I get along with Wes.
He's a friend.
I get along with Andrew.
He's a friend.
They kept attacking each other.
Bickering.
Right?
Like, like giving each other look, he'll make a cheap shot, then he'll make a cheap shot, and they kept going back and forth, and I was like, oh my God.
So it's like, it is what it is, man.
Like they're they're both buddies.
So it's like it kind of sucks.
Right?
I wish that it that didn't happen, but I didn't see it coming out of it.
It came out of nowhere.
I was like, what the fuck is this shit?
And then the venue started getting mad because you know he started using a certain word that I like myself.
But you know, um that then the venue started getting mad, so we had to like kind of like chill it out or whatever.
But I also I was gonna set up the debate between the two, like on materialism.
Fuck it.
Let's have a discussion on materialism.
Um, but it is what it is, man.
We're gonna have Andrew on tomorrow.
It's fine, it'll be a good time.
Um it is what it is.
Uh Andrew to, you know, it's a good sport about it.
You know, he had some fun with it, poking fun back at him.
So um, so yeah, man.
I see some y'all here support Wes, some of y'all support Andrew.
It is what it is.
You know, I like both the guys.
I'm cool, both of the guys, so it is what it is.
Um, so I guess we're gonna get into the topic in hand.
So we got a video here.
First, you guys are probably wondering, well, yeah, who is this guy?
Brian Nichols.
Here is right here.
Let me screen share this bad boy.
Um Brian Nichols, okay.
Brian G. Nichols, born December 10th, 1971, is a convicted murderer known for his escape and killing spree in Fulton County courthouse in Atlanta, Georgia, on March 11, 2005.
Nicholas was on trial for grape when he escaped custody and murdered the judge presiding over his trial, a court reporter of Fulton County Sheriff's Deputy, and later an ICE special agent, bro.
R.I.P., man.
Because that ICE specialist is actually an HSI special agent.
But again, this is in 2005.
ICE had a name change, guys, from Immigration Customs Enforcement Office of Investigations to Homeland Security Investigation.
So this guy was actually an HSI special agent.
You call him ICE back then, but it was it's later known to be HSI.
26 hours.
Um rest in peace to him.
Uh 26 uh hours after a large-scale manhole was launched in the Metropolitan Atlanta area.
Nicholas was taken into custody prosecution, charged him with committing 54 crimes during escape.
He was found guilty on all uh counts on November 7th, 2008, was subsequently sentenced to life in prison.
And he uh there was a movie made on this, captive, right?
2015.
Apparently it's really came out.
Huh?
Apparently it's really bad.
It's really bad.
Yeah.
Bad reviews?
Yeah, very bad.
Let's see what he got.
Uh let's see here.
Um captive.
It's with Ronnie Mara, I think.
One of the Mara sisters.
Captive.
Uh PG 13.
Uh, you already know it's gonna be whack.
PG 13, unacceptable.
Uh let's see what IMDV gave it.
5.4 out of 10.
God damn.
Yeah, it's really bad.
Damn.
I'm not even a movie critic like that.
I'd probably still find it enjoyable.
Uh because I'm easily entertained, but I am.
But Angie is a movie critic.
Oh, this movie's trash.
Yeah, no.
Yeah, Angie's the film buff.
Um her favorite movie.
What's her kill Bill?
One of them, yeah.
Volume two?
Or volume one?
Uh, volume two, definitely.
When she takes the eye out.
My favorite part.
That's my favorite part.
Eight, eight out of eighty.
Oh, look at that.
Okay.
I still think Paul Fiction is better.
No.
Yeah, this is I think the best Quentin Tarantino film.
It's with the same actress, though.
But no, Caleb Bill is uh classic.
I think Paul Fiction was better.
My favorite movie of all time is Borat, but Pulp Fiction's up there too.
Because you're old.
Brian no, you ain't talking.
You old too, man.
All right.
Uh okay.
So let's get we got a documentary to play, besides, you know, arguing about movies.
Um I saw Kill Bill for the first time, actually, Angie.
Yeah, it was the Vegas.
It was okay.
Because you didn't want to when he came out.
Oh, it was better when it came out?
Of course.
Myron, what do you telling me you didn't enjoy when she took the eye out?
I mean, it was injuries.
I mean.
When she broke the you know.
Yo, King Darula, can you tell me what a C Jo CJO is?
I don't know what that is.
I'll read your chat after this, but let's get into the documentary because we are a little bit behind.
Yeah, warning.
This documentary might hit us with the copyright.
If they do, be ready to go to Rumble Ninjas.
We're also on Twitch as well.
We're on Twitch, we're on YouTube, and we're on Rumble.
We're on all the platforms.
And X as well.
So I like the video on YouTube.
Slide the OpenShop.
Like the video on YouTube.
And then go back to Rumble if you want if you can't.
Yes, thank you.
Because it helps with the algo.
So, guys, please like the video on YouTube.
We've been grinding.
Okay.
I'm tired right now, but I'm still out here doing another video for y'all.
I was I streamed earlier, some overwatch for you guys where I was destroying kids.
I'm I'm nice at the game, by the way.
You know what I mean?
I let those boys know what time it was.
I had them.
Yeah.
I've got you in my sights.
All right.
So yeah.
I'm gonna get better soon.
Yeah.
Yeah, I actually I got I got uh Angie a coach to help her rank up.
Shout out to Awkward.
Yeah, shout out to Awkward.
Um he'll actually be here, Angie, and um he's gonna be here sometime in the summer, so I'll probably bring him on the pod to talk about being a professional gamer.
And what's what's that what's that like?
You know what I mean?
So that'll be that'll be a good time.
Oh my god, yeah, sure.
All right.
Oh, wait, hold on, hold on.
Is this not uh oh, it's muted.
My bad guys.
What's that like?
You know what I mean?
So that's time.
Oh my god, yeah.
What the hell?
Uh it's uh doubled.
It's double audio.
Hold on, let me fix this.
My bad.
Oh, it's because this crap.
All right, let me close this tab.
All right.
All right, chat.
Let me know if this is um.
Let me know if this is good.
If it if it works.
Dangerous and notorious criminals are locked behind bars.
Ryan Nichols is not only a murderer who murdered innocent victims in a court of law.
He definitely was somebody who engaged in all kinds of different crimes.
Give me ones in the chat if the audio is good.
Okay, give me ones in the chat if the audio is good.
Brian Nichols went on a rampage.
He hit her so hard that her head went against the cinder block wall, knocked her out.
I forced my way into the courtroom.
And I saw Judge Barnes playing with blood coming out the back of his head.
A prisoner who was armed and dangerous, was free and on the run.
He forces his way into a gunette woman's apartment.
I was concerned because he was now out.
I then called my wife and told her to get our daughter out of school.
He's just willing to mow over anyone who gets in his way.
So he's absolutely still dangerous, uh, no matter where he is.
Brian Nichols suddenly claimed the top spot In America's Most Wanted.
Brian Nichols assaults a deputy, steals her gun, then hunts down and murders Judge Roland Barnes and his court reporter.
Outside, Deputy Hoyt Teasley is shot and killed by Nichols on the sidewalk.
Even when he was securely locked behind bars, Brian Nichols posed a serious threat to everyone he met.
They move him from place to place.
They do not let the same guards guard him for a prolonged period of time because they don't want them to get too comfortable with him.
And if he gets out, just no telling what he might do.
And if YouTube messes up on us, guys, we are definitely gonna go ahead and uh switch over to uh Rumble.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
All right, let's get started.
All right.
Alright, let's fast forward this a bit.
Vacation prison is a maximum security facility, home to around 2,500 inmates.
A maximum security prison, it's more restrictive.
They have gun posts, there's more fences.
The thing that makes maximum security prisons more dangerous is that the inmates in there usually usually have a longer sentence.
So they've already And they're there for you know some of the worst crimes, right?
This is where you're getting your, you know, arsonists, murderers, grapists, um, child abusers, um, you know, people that, you know, serious fraud, you know, drug trafficking on a on a on a higher level, right?
With uh typically with with firearms violations.
So, yeah, it ain't no joke, especially at the state level.
You know, state prisons are typically notoriously underfunded.
So, yeah.
Pretty mated up their mind that they're going to live and die in prison.
That's their home.
So when it does kick off, they go all the way.
They'll attempt to kill you.
One of the most feared inmates kept behind bars here is mass murderer, Brian Nichols.
I think he's a kind of person that's always thinking, always analyzed.
Bro, you know it's bad when they got your form when they got your former defense attorney on there.
Holy, you know it's not gonna be a good time.
I think always looking for the crack in the wall, always looking for the light, you know, through the door.
I think Brian could be a potential escape risk.
I think if Nichols felt cornered.
I'm surprised he didn't get the death penalty.
Uh let me look here.
He actually got a 15-year plea deal.
Really?
Yeah.
Let's see here.
George uh, oh wow.
Okay.
Of course they were trying to say he was insane.
So it says here, Georgia ruled all states' death penalty statutes unconstitutional.
The first execution takes place afterwards occurred in 1983.
77 people in total have been executed since 1983 far.
As of March 1st, uh 21st, 2024.
As of March 21st, 2024, 36 men and one woman are on death row awaiting execution.
So, does it exist?
Hold on.
So, George Richard death penalty in 1973 after Ferman for Georgia ruled all state's penalty unconstitutional.
So it's back.
All right.
So there's 37 people on death row right now in Georgia.
So right.
Okay, and it must be unanimous.
All right, so death penalty is allowed in Georgia.
Surprise you again.
Very possibly kill a guy.
He was a natural born colour.
In stark contrast to many of the world's most dangerous prisoners, 33-year-old Brian Nichols had enjoyed a good life.
He was educated, he was employed at a pretty good job.
And apparently he was pretty good at it.
And he was basically he was living a successful life.
But everything changed when he was accused of rape and aggravated abuse by a former girlfriend.
He was facing very significant jail time if he got convicted of any number of the counts that were lodged against him.
Nichols' behavior in court made everyone nervous.
Before I left the house, remember the last thing I said to my wife was, I don't feel safe in that courtroom.
Their fears were confirmed when Nichols suddenly turned violent.
And one of the deputies went into the lockup with her gun.
At that point.
Did you guys catch that with her gun?
It's time.
You already know what time it is there.
Time he hit her.
And just so you guys know, you never, right?
And this is why um having your firearm when you're dealing with prisoners is almost always forbidden in most places.
Uh, you know, whenever you're gonna go interview a suspect in an interview room, or you're gonna um you gonna interview a suspect in the interview room, uh, you're putting him in the jail cell or whatever it may be.
Most places, most prisons almost always have a gun lockup where you have to lock up your gun before you deal with the prisoner, and that's why, specifically for reasons like this, okay.
I guarantee you this right here probably sets some more precedent where you're not gonna have a firearm when you're dealing with a prisoner.
And then in this situation, this is why it's so important, guys, to be fit and be in shape if you're gonna get into law enforcement man, because these people are still dangerous.
Clearly, this woman was not equipped to handle this, right?
So, um, anyway.
So hard that her head went against the syndrome.
Boom, he hits her, right?
And knocks her out.
Black wall knocked her out.
Now on the loose in the courthouse, Nichols went on a killing spree.
Junge Barton wouldn't have seen him come into the main room.
Brian shot Junge Bar.
This is what every criminal's, you know, wet dream is shooting their judge.
He then took his rampage out onto the streets.
And there was a house with the door open, and there was a federal agent, and they're working on his bathroom.
They ended up killing the man.
And shortly after that is when he kidnapped the girl.
Something happened that made him go from kind of a regular person to somebody who would kill four people.
The End Nichols grew up in a middle class family during the 1970s and 80s in Baltimore, Maryland.
Holy.
Guys, Baltimore?
Okay, let's look here.
Just have a little bit of fun with this.
What is that?
You know uh Baltimore, Maryland?
No.
Oh, well, we didn't go there, but it was close to when we went to go see um Tim.
Remember, we went to go do it.
Oh, it's not Maryland.
Yeah, uh, it's it's not is it?
It's it's in the middle of four different places.
But look at this.
Most dangerous cities in the US, right?
Detroit is up there.
Okay.
But um, look, look, boom.
Look, look at this.
Detroit, St. Louis, uh, Albuquerque.
What?
Oh my.
Well, it makes sense.
This is next to a class.
All right, let's see here.
Indianapolis, Albuquerque, Stockton, California, Cleveland, Ohio, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Kansas City, Missouri, um, Memphis, Tennessee, Baltimore, Maryland, Detroit, Michigan, and what's number one, St. Louis.
Oh my god.
That's where my cousin leaves.
Yeah, man.
Anybody from Baltimore in the chat?
Uh, if you're in the if you're from Baltimore in the chat, let me know how uh how you like it.
Is it safe?
He was a good student and a talented sportsman.
He had a very involved family, and they were intact.
They were together.
So he had people who who who liked him.
Um he had uh a body of friends.
At the age of 21, Nichols was kicked off the college football team for stealing and moved to Atlanta, Georgia.
Seeming to make a new start, Nichols secured a steady job at a multinational technology company, and he had got himself a girlfriend.
She was a very successful woman.
Uh, the times I spoke with her, I found her to be very intelligent, um, very articulate, um, very well put together.
You know, intellectually, she she had a lot going for her.
And and and that was a good compliment because Brian was also very intelligent.
In 2004, when Brian Nichols was 32 years old, his life took a sudden downward spiral when he was accused of rape.
Oh boy.
I am Barry Hazen.
I'm an attorney, criminal defense attorney, and I represented Brian Nichols in 2004 and five, where he was charged with rape in Atlanta, Georgia.
The woman who lodged the complaint against Brian is a woman who he had who had been in a relationship with him for a number of years.
That's interesting.
That's uh they didn't live together, but they were very much a couple in in a lot of ways.
I know they were talking about getting married.
The relationship was not without its difficulties, and Brian was not faithful.
He did have another relationship.
What are you laughing about, Angie?
Hopefully he wasn't during that period of time.
Um, and there was another woman, and she became pregnant through Brian, and that created uh a lot of turmoil in Brian's relationship.
Brian's girlfriend eventually left him, but Brian was not ready to let her go.
What's interesting about rape is that people think of rape as a sex crime.
And while, yes, it has a horrific sexual component.
The real driving factor behind rape is control.
And so it sounds like in this case, his girlfriend had left him, which caused a void, which caused anger, which caused resentment.
So as a result of that anger, he decided to duct tape her and rape her and sodomise her in order to exert control over a situation that he no longer had control over.
The first time I met and saw Brian was at the Fulton County jail.
He was being held without bond.
The conditions at the Fulton County jail were not very good conditions at all.
Of the jails I go to, I think it's probably the was the least desirable place to be.
Yeah, state state jails and state prisons, guys, are always way worse.
Which, if I'm not mistaken, I think um Yonk Doug is is being held in Fulton County, if I'm not mistaken.
Chat, let me uh c fact check that for me, but I'm pretty sure he's being held there.
I'll read some chats real quick, because of course, you know, I don't want to get hit with the copyright here, so I'm trying to pause intermittently here and everything else like that.
Doshi poster says, um, I used to live 30 minutes from Baltimore when I lived there, they had over 300 murders a year.
God damn.
That's like one almost every day.
Yeah, literally.
I accidentally drove to the bad part of Baltimore and I thought I was in a third world country.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um uh a lot of rundown buildings, man.
A lot of rundown buildings.
Uh what will people like to be there?
I don't know, man.
Or leave there.
There's no reason to be there, man.
Shout out to those shit poster.
Um, let's see here.
What else do we got?
Doship poster goes, are you gonna avoid Oh, um Roy Reigns lunatic again?
Bro, Wes is cool, man.
Uh let's see here.
Okay, I caught that up.
Okay.
And then King Darulo said, I'm getting into DOJ, FBI, HI more diff.
Is getting into DOJ, FBI, HI is a part of D department of Homeland Security, my friend.
Uh FBI's Department of Justice more difficult to get a CJO compared to other government agencies, IRS VA.
See a lot of people complain about the others losing funding and positions.
Um, bro, just get on as any 1811 position, any 1811 position.
Get on, which which is gonna be a special agent gig.
All right, but it's hard to get one of those as your first job, so you might have to, you know, get on with something else, maybe as a um, you know, uh an inspector or something else like that.
Um if you guys want, if there's enough once in the chat, give me ones in a chat.
If y'all want me to give you, if you guys give me ones in a chat, I'll explain how to look for these jobs.
Okay, give me ones in the chat if you guys want it.
If twos, if you guys want me to just keep on going with the documentary.
We'll we'll play here.
County jail can be anywhere from getting a DUI driving under the influence, murder, rape, molestation, robbery, armed robbery.
We spent uh probably an hour, hour and a half talking back and forth about the facts of the case.
With clients, sometimes you build a relationship right away.
Sometimes it takes a while.
But with Brian, there was a bond.
Barry Hazen knew Nichols faced significantly.
And then shout out to the sand when she says, I could never go out like JFK.
Me personally, I would have shot back.
Bruh, how are you gonna shoot back when you get shot in the back of the head in a moving car, man?
Come on, bro.
When you get shot in the head, like how you watch the back like my guy, like J. Sniper, that nobody knew where he was.
Yeah.
In a in a building hotel.
See, Angie knows because I was watching a lot of JFK shit when I was in uh when I was in LA.
Let me say something.
I know more about these persons in this country than my country.
So the history, the the president of history of my country.
That's that tells you something about Myron.
Yeah, I watch a lot of history stuff.
Angie, Angie, we be uh be tuning in with me.
I don't go play though.
I don't go play.
Jail time, as he had been charged with a number of offenses.
Jail time.
I think there are about six or seven counts altogether, but of course, the biggest one was rape, which could get you a life sentence in Georgia.
I think Sir uh Cerebrus, the chef says, um, watch the wire.
You and Angie will love it.
I'll actually pay to watch your reaction.
Many of us will, peace, brother.
You know what, man, maybe we will.
Maybe I will.
That uh that obviously I have to be on Rumble only.
The wire, yeah.
It's a very it's a very good uh, you know, crime drama.
He says that is one of the most written TV shows ever.
Yeah, yeah, it's very, very popular.
It's old, but yeah.
Oh, is it which is with Idris uh Idris Elba.
Yes, a couple of guys.
The aggravated assault was very serious.
I can get you up to 20 years in Georgia.
The others were less, but they were serious.
So he was facing very significant jail time if he got convicted of any number of the counts that were lodged against him.
I knew it was gonna be a challenging case because any time that you have a a sex-related case, a rape case, um you you're you're walking uphill with a rock.
But I liked Brian.
I found Brian to be very intelligent, very articulate, very warm with me, very respectful of me, and I believed that there were sufficient facts to work with to be able to defend Brian.
But there was one issue about Nichols that niggled Barry.
I thought that Brian was very taken with himself.
I think that Brian had perhaps certain narcissistic tendencies.
I didn't think he was mentally ill, but I thought that there were certain issues that I needed to take note of.
On February 21st, 2005, the trial started at Fulton County Courthouse.
Despite building a strong rapport with his client, Barry quickly noticed there were red flags in Nichols' behavior.
The first day of trial, um, um I I think the judge was being tested by Brian.
Ryan immediately said he had to go to the bathroom, I remember.
And it must have been in there for 20 minutes.
And the judge was asking, where is he?
Where is he?
Where is he?
What's what's going on here?
And he ordered me to go in there to get him.
And Brian was just standing there.
And so I I don't know what was going on, other than the fact that we already had a judge that was irritated.
Superior That's probably what got him so pissed off.
It was like, man, I'm gonna shoot this dude, man.
This dude won't even let me take a dump in peace.
Like, goddamn, man.
I'm just trying to take a dump in a clean bathroom.
I'm not in my cell.
This guy's fucking rushing me.
Like, bruh, no wonder he was probably I'm gonna get this boy.
That's probably what set him off right there, you know.
Court judge Roland Barnes was presiding over the hearing.
He was understanding and he cared about people.
He couldn't care if you were rich or poor.
He cared about you.
Almost everybody wanted to go to in front of Judge Barnes.
Because then no, they would be treated.
Fair.
The trial continued for five days, and throughout, Barry was concerned about what Nichols would try next.
I didn't feel threatened by him at all.
But I I felt that he was being kind of a pouty kid in a way, being resistive to the authority of the court over him.
Despite Nichols' provocative behavior, Barry was doing his best to secure a positive outcome for his client.
It went really well for him.
I mean, uh the And just so you guys know, you don't go to trial often, right?
Like, you know, 90, nine like 90% plus, like 95% of cases, guys, typically end with what's called a plea bargain, which means they're like, all right, look, we're charging you with rape, but if you plead guilty to sexual assault, third degree, some shit like that, you know, we'll give you that instead, where instead of potentially going to prison for 20 years, you're gonna go for two years, and then you gotta be in a registry and you'll be out.
You could maybe get out on you know good behavior, whatever it may be.
And this is how most cases end up in the United States because people don't go to trial because number one, there's a high likelihood of losing.
Number two, it takes time, number three, it costs money.
So it's beneficial to all parties, both the prosecution and the defense, to take the case to uh a plea deal.
And a lot of the times that plea deal would be a lesser charge for what you're dealing with, right?
And you'll get less time, uh, maybe even probation, etc.
So it's very appealing to a majority of people.
So the fact that he took this to trial in itself is an anomaly.
He probably felt like he could win.
The vote was eight for not guilty.
And then there was a Oh shit, he got not guilty.
Wow.
Eight four not guilty.
Discussion with the judge and district attorney myself.
It was a hung jury.
The prosecutors wanted a retrial, but Judge Barnes was not keen.
The judge did not want to retry the case.
He wanted them to let it.
So that tells you off-rip that there was probably a good amount of evidence that showed that it was either consensual, um, something was going on there where she lied.
Um, so yeah.
He was not able to convince her the uh the pri the prosecution, because remember, guys, the burner proof is always on the government.
Uh they gotta prove you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
And remember, probable causes here, beyond a reasonable doubt is all the way here.
It's very easy to arrest someone, but it's very difficult to convict someone, okay?
And this is common in state cases, guys, where um, you know, the prosecution isn't able to prove their case.
The feds don't lose, but the state loses a lot, actually.
So I'm not surprised.
Um, and that's because the state takes every case, guys.
They're taking everything.
Feds don't investigate grape.
That's a state type case.
Murder, typically, state case, right?
D-wise, state case.
Domestic violence, state case.
So the feds take more um serious and also specialized crimes, okay?
Because federal law is a lot different than state law.
Um, unless you know, a grape is occurring like maybe on an Indian reservation or whatever, maybe that's a little bit different.
But uh, but yeah, so it looks like um they had a hung trial hung jury and they wanted a retrial, but the judge didn't want to do it.
Let's see.
They go.
Throwing up his hands say, okay, then we'll retrieve it on Monday.
The person retrying it on Monday.
Of sitting alongside Brian Nichols again for the retrial made Barry nervous.
I thought the danger was a possibility.
Something was up.
I I wasn't sure what it was.
I I didn't know if he had anything planned, but I thought the mind was spinning at that point in time.
I thought we could have a problem.
Yeah, you know that boy was pissed.
He was like, This bitch lying.
Early morning on March 7th, 2005, the retrial of 33-year-old Brian Nichols with the offenses, including the rape and battery of his former girlfriend, began.
My name is Brantley White.
Um I was a sergeant with a floating county sheriff department and a bailiff for Judge Roland Barnes on the Brian Nichols case.
He was the bailiff?
Damn, nigga, you failed.
He did judge dead now.
The bailiffs, guys, think of them as like the court security, by the way.
At the courthouse, you are controlling the courtroom.
You are bringing inmates in front of the judge.
Brian Nichols is very quiet.
Oh, it's carrying up carrying the Bible.
He didn't give any problems.
FY, guys, by the way, at the state level, you have bailiffs at the federal level, you have the U.S. Marshall Service, right?
So everyone tells me all the time, Myron, I want to be a U.S. Marshal, I want to be U.S. Marshal.
Guys, I'm gonna warn you, it's probably one of the worst um federal law enforcement gigs that you can get.
Um the two the three worst agencies to work for, okay.
Pay attention, guys.
Oh shit.
Are the US Muster Service, United States Secret Service, and um and uh what's the third one?
Shit.
There's one more that sucks that everyone thinks is cool.
ATF.
No, ATF is cool.
Um damn it.
I can't I can't I can't bring it to mind right now.
But the US Motional Service and the Secret Service are definitely two ones that suck.
DEA maybe no DEA is good.
It's better now.
It used to be bad when they didn't have uh um when they used to have uh competitive 13s.
That was bad.
Which I can explain that.
I think I explained that before in other episodes.
Yeah, you have, yeah.
Um I remember.
But um, but yeah.
Now you guys, uh if you guys want me to go into why um I can explain that.
I just don't want to run off on a tangent here on this episode.
Uh um, but yeah, give me ones in the chat if you guys want me to why.
And then also, Angie, they want me to cover the other thing too, which is um fuck, what was it?
Uh uh.
Shit.
All right.
Tell me write this down that we're gonna cover why Secret Service and why the U.S. Marshal Service sucks uh for jobs.
How to upgrade it?
Because they do want it.
And then uh Why why which ones?
Why why the US Marshal Service and the uh Secret Service suck for jobs and you don't want to do obviously if you can get your foot in the door, go ahead, but I'm gonna tell you guys why they're they're not as fun as you think they are.
Okay, but just so y'all know, bailiffs do what the US Marshal Service does at the state level.
US Marshal Service at the federal level bring the prisoners in, you know, they do courtroom security, all that other shit, which sucks.
Um, but yeah.
And there was one other thing that I was supposed to talk to them about.
Someone in the chat, what was it?
I've had a long day, guys.
Sorry.
You said How to apply for these for these agencies?
How to apply.
Oh, yes, yes.
How to use teach them how to use USA jobs.
Yep, yep, yeah.
Put that in there too on the list that we gotta do that as well.
Let's get back into the documentary because I know people always complain when I go on San Justin.
I don't want to do that, so let's get back into it.
He complied with whatever he's uh Nichols appeared to behave himself.
That was until day four, when Judge Barnes made a shocking discovery.
The judge called us into chambers, and he was very angry.
And we which is unusual for Judge Barnes.
He was such an easygoing man, that he had a manila folder, and he tossed the folder across the desk almost at me like in anger.
And the picture slid out of the folder.
There were two photographs.
And he said, Here, this is what we found in your client's shoes yesterday.
They looked like hinges without the spindles because they had holes in them.
You could see that hadn't been sharpened, they'd been scraped.
We found out later that it was the frame from the light fixture in his cell that he had taken apart.
And he had two of those planks, one in each shoe.
That's when I thought, well, wait a minute.
We we've gone beyond being resistance here.
Something's not right.
There was a th.
But why are you gonna be mad at the defense attorney, Judge?
Like that's not his fucking job, man.
The hell.
Threat.
He had crossed the line with me.
Well, Barry could never have imagined what his client would do next.
The judge was evidently nervous.
The tension level on that Thursday was high.
The judge it was seemed concerned.
The judge said, we we need to get things off the tables that he can use.
For instance, you know, they have these little plastic discs that you run wires through.
The judge ordered those removed from the table.
He ordered the the water pitches removed from the table so they couldn't be used as a weapon.
The judge actually the judge was shook.
So they kind of had an idea of what was gonna happen beforehand.
We said we need more beef in the courtroom.
That's why you put it.
I remember looking back to see if there was gonna be more beef, and they had the same middle-aged woman deputy about Oh man, holy 30 feet behind him, and she wasn't gonna be any help.
And so I became concerned, and then the judge he put his hand on my shoulder and said, You need to stay alert because you're sitting right next to him.
On the final day of the retrial, Nichols was, as usual, being held in Fulton County jail until proceedings began.
In the courthouse, Grant Lee White was the bailiff assigned to Judge Barnes that day.
I always, every morning before court stars.
Pray for the protection to God to protect me.
This is the first time I have given an interview about what happened.
It's hard to talk about it.
On March the 11th, 2005.
The last day for the trial of Baron Nicholas.
Almost, bro, can you imagine?
That's almost 20 years ago.
Holy almost 20 years ago.
I asked the judge if I can go if I can get breakfast.
And he said yes.
He was just talking to attorneys about iffy.
And he felt safe that nothing would happen.
Nichols was you're in from Rice Street in Fulton County jail by van each morning to the uh courthouse.
And there's a uh uh a sally port kind of on the back of the courthouse where they they bring prisoners in.
They don't come in through the main entrance, and they're they're brought up in an L. And this is like I described to you guys before.
You uh you always bring prisoners around the back, and that's gonna be through the salary port and the sally port guys think of it as like just a closed-off area where the van drives in, gate closes behind it, they take the prisoners out, they typically walk them.
The rule for most law enforcement agencies is two um two law enforcement officers per prisoner or per body, as they would say.
So, um, let me read chats real quick here.
Um we got here, Santiago says, What are your thoughts on Interpol's Anternational Police?
Is it a good agency?
Uh it's Cap, bro.
They don't really do shit, to be honest with you.
Uh Bruce, Bruce, it's more like a liaison type situation with them.
They don't really do nothing.
Hey, Martin Angie during our session, is there more openings to be a cop than usual?
Um that depends on city, bro.
Every city has their own budget and their needs.
Let's go 5,000.
Shout out to uh Stone Cold Wes Watson or True Alpha Mill.
Okay.
Uh let's see here.
Uh Myron, do you think it's important to know the statute of the law any state you decide to either live in or do business in?
Uh yeah, it's very important, Meekley.
Well, especially if you're gonna be a criminal.
Uh just goes, uh, a week after I got lost in the hood of Baltimore, Trump tweets about what a shithole that city was.
I'll have my ass off because it was the most accurate thing Trump ever.
We tweeted.
Facts.
Baltimore sucks, guys.
Baltimore sucks.
King Colonel says, if you had to move to another safe city, state slash city, where would you go?
Small city, state town with a remote business making 80K things or getting dangerous to your opinion matters currently in LA.
It sucks.
Um Bro, to be honest with you, I wouldn't be in LA, that's for sure.
Los Angeles sucks.
Uh terrible.
Um I'd go.
Um Dallas.
No.
Pretty dangerous too.
If you want to go somewhere safe, bro, uh Pittsburgh uh gets voted pretty safe.
I don't know what it is now.
Um Vermont, Maine, pretty safe state, some of the lowest crime rates, right?
I think you know why.
Why?
I don't know why.
There's certain demographic that's missing.
Or on YouTube.
Okay.
Sorry, missing demographic.
I thought you were gonna say because that's there ain't no niggas there, man.
That's why.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I thought you were gonna say because there's a bunch of a-based people.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
That's Pennsylvania you're thinking of.
So, yeah.
Uh Utah is good too.
But listen.
Oh, man.
What else do you got here?
And you should have said he's missing melatonin.
Yeah.
What else do we got?
Um King Drill Marina, have you ever killed anybody on duty?
Can you give an account of your most d dangerous encounter?
I gave that encounter when I was um I talked about it when I had the uh we arrested that border patrol agent that was uh that was trying to meet up with some kids when we arrested him.
I that was probably one of the closest I came to shooting somebody.
Uh but no, obviously, no, I never got never shot anybody, thank God.
You never want to get in a shooting when you're law enforcement, bro.
Trust me, you don't you don't want that.
It's it's a big pain in the ass.
Elevator.
You know, I secured elevator to whatever floor the courtroom is on, and then he'd be escorted into that.
Um before I left the house.
I remember the last thing I said to my wife was I don't feel safe in that courtroom.
Up until the day before, I had no problem with I I knew he was being a problem for other people, but I didn't really think he was a physical threat.
But suddenly, I did.
At 8 45 a.m., Nichols had been transferred from Fulton County jail to a holding cell located in the new building of Fulton County Courthouse.
There's always risk involved.
When an inmate comes to court on a jury trial, he's brought upstairs to change into civilian clothes.
You opened a door, and then you removed And the reason why they do that, guys, is because they don't want to um because it'd be crazy if you had the defendant there in an orange jumpsuit the whole time during their trial.
Like it presumes guilt.
So you put them in a suit, right, and give them the dignity of getting a fair trial, right?
You're supposed to get a fair and impartial trial.
So that's why they put them in civilian clothing, typically in in business attire.
Remove the handcuffs from the inmate.
And leave them in the holding cell.
Which is very risky.
Because most problems happen when you remove removing the handcuffs from him.
Yes, they they train you uh and they tell you that whenever you're putting the handcuffs on and when you're putting them off or taking them off is when you're gonna deal with any type of problems most of the time.
I ain't gonna lie.
I used to tell people, right?
Because I was always really chill.
Whenever I was gonna interview a suspect or whatever, I never like to interview my suspects with with their hands cuffed.
I didn't like doing that.
I always went on a handcuffed them when I would talk to them, right?
But I'll warn them, I'll tell them, yo, I'm gonna unhandcuff you.
Because I don't like to talking to people when they're haircuffed.
It's weird.
I don't like that shit.
This is just a conversation between us two.
But if you try something, I'm gonna fuck you up.
I'll tell them that that exact thing every single time.
I'm gonna fuck you up.
And uh they always were like, nah, man, no, I get it, I get it.
Um, and um, and yeah, they always complied.
They're always they're always nice, right?
Uh, you know, they always say, you know, speak softly but carry a big stick, pause.
Um, you know, you always have to be, and I was bigger back then too, you know.
So that's that's what you have to do.
But yeah, that you that's when that's absolutely true.
They train you when you're putting the handcuffs on or taking them off.
That's when the crazy shit's gonna happen.
But I never like to interview suspects with handcuffs on, so I would always tell them that.
But I never had an issue.
Never once did I have an issue with that.
Nichols.
But that's the importance of being in shape and showing that you're capable, man.
What do you mean you were You mean that you would fat?
Well, there was a phase when I was fat too in 2015, yes.
When I was 250.
But I mean I was like more like I was I was I was bigger than I am now.
I was like two, two, like right now I'm like one ninety-ish, right?
I wasn't uh I'm fitter now.
But um back then I was like, you know, like two two hundred, two ten.
You're qualified to be like having a dad but yeah, that's fair for me.
Into the court by a female deputy.
He took pride in being a ladies' man and being able to charm people.
The deputy.
She liked him.
She actually told me this guy's innocent.
Oh shit.
So she she she felt that, you know, she she was forming a kinship with him.
She didn't even know that this dude didn't grape that his girl.
Oh, lay, but she messed up right there, man.
*music*
But I'll tell you this.
If the state wasn't able to prove the case the first time, and this is on a retrial, then you I mean, and even the deputy knows that he's innocent or felt like she was innocent, and it was a female.
Come on, man.
The deputy had built a trust with Nichols and had let down her guard.
And one of the deputies went into the lockup um with her gun.
Big no, no.
At that point in time, he hit her.
Hit her so hard that her head went against the cinder block wall, knocked her out.
He took her key.
And now he also can put on civilian clothes.
Thank God he didn't kill her, though.
I must see I I I guess he he liked her, so he didn't he didn't kill her.
And he got a gun and then calmly walked across that bridge from the new building.
Because he could have killed her, and he didn't.
And into the old building where Judge Barnes is.
As I turned the corner to go down the hallway, I saw a person with a gun in the hand.
Then I recognized it was Brian Nichols.
Oh shit.
Bruh, could you imagine?
Oh shit!
Oh shit!
He didn't shoot me right away.
So I figured he didn't want to kill me.
So I decided I see if I can talk to him.
And I keep in mind, guys.
You know, the bailiff, the person I was walking him, he's seeing them every day, he's on trial.
So, you know, you naturally build a relationship with these people, right?
They're walking you in and out of court, you're talking with them, you have a conversation, they're in it letting you in and out of your cell.
Um, and you know, most most CEOs, most bailiffs, etc., they're gonna be cool with you, man.
You know what I mean?
They're they're not gonna be dickheads, right?
They're up of course you're gonna get dickheads here and there.
Um but prisoners remember that shit, right?
So I guarantee you he probably treated um these bailiffs, the the deputy that he hit, and then this guy right here probably treated him with some dignity and respect, which is why he didn't kill them.
Guaranteed.
Because you guys are gonna see right here, he didn't he didn't spare no time with others.
Asking him what he was doing.
And he kept saying, Don't do anything.
Don't do anything, sirs, don't do anything.
And I tried to tell him that.
Well, there's no reason for him to do it.
He said, It's too late for that.
Rather than make his escape, it appeared that Nichols had a plan and was intent on vengeance and took Grantley hostage.
And he put the gun to the back of my head, and he took my gun.
He walked me into the judge's office.
And when I walked through the door, I saw there were some of the folks that worked for the judges.
And Brian Nichols said to me, handcuffed these folks.
I didn't want to do it.
He already had in mind who he was gonna kill.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Like he already knew.
Yeah.
You know, that's why I think he didn't kill him.
He was mad as hell.
He was like, man, I'm getting tried again.
This is a bullshit.
Yeah, and probably it was his first like murder, too.
Yeah.
Probably so.
One of the ladies said, please, Grantly, please do what he said.
Then he said, handcuff yourself.
Brian Nichols threw the handcuffs at me.
And I look at it and I saw blood on them.
I knew it belongs to my deputy because her name was engrave on.
I handcuffed myself and I tried to make them loose, so maybe I can get out of them.
Because I knew that under the judge's desk was a duress button.
As I stand over by the desk, I talk to myself, "How am I going to do this?" So I decided to fate a heart attack and fell down on my knees.
And as I fell down on my knees, I pushed the button underneath the judge's desk.
Smart.
Central control responded to the alarm call, but Nichols was ready and reported all was well.
But operators said something was very wrong.
One of the sergeants in the central control knew my voice.
Ah.
So Nichols is smart.
He knew that that will might happen, and so he took their radios as well, so he can monitor all the traffic coming in.
Smart guy, man.
But again, right?
When you're sitting there on trial, right?
And you're looking at how the bailiffs operate, you see how the court moves, like they have a routine.
So he already in his mind, he probably had been formulating this maybe since the first trial.
Like, okay, he stands here, she stands here, she's the one walking to my cell.
I'm having a conversation with her, I'm building a rapport.
This is the bailiff that runs the shit.
Okay, cool, he stands here.
All right, they're reporting every time they drop me off.
Okay, boom.
I need to get a hold of the radio.
So he was probably planning this all out from the rip.
So it was cool calculators.
Yeah, definitely.
Absolutely.
And said that's not white.
That's not Sergeant White's voice.
Then I heard one of the ladies say, Sergeant, he's gone, he's gone.
Well, Grantly grabbed his radio to tell Central Control what had just happened.
Nichols was tracking down his first kill.
He then calmly walked into Judge.
That boy was ready.
Barnes' chambers.
Oh, he knew where his chambers were.
Okay, you guys probably wonder.
Michael, what the fuck is chambers?
So, um.
So Chambers, guys, is in every courtroom, right?
There's a back door that allows the judge to um that that has like the judge's chambers, which basically it's an office.
It's a really nice office most of the time.
You know, big desk.
They got like their their secretary there, they got their stores, their staff there.
Every judge has like a whole staff a lot of the times.
Someone that like does their paperwork, uh, receptionists, etc.
So that's like their chambers.
So, like anytime you're gonna get a warrant sign or whatever, you go in there and you sign it, but they all that is connected to their courtroom.
So he walked in the back into the judge's chambers, which is basically their um their office.
My black folks in jail when it comes to grape, usually get guilty pretty fast.
Remember, Judge Barnes is on the bench on the divorce case.
He walks into chambers, unlocked door, and then goes from chambers into the courtroom.
Junge Barton wouldn't have seen him come into the main room and just immediately Brian turned to his right, shot Junge Barnes on the left side of the head.
Damn.
When Julie Brendell, the court border, turned around, he shot her.
God damn.
And then left the court.
Court reporter, too, goddamn, man.
Room through the main door.
Grantley had heard the gunshots and ran to the courtroom.
I forced my way into the courtroom, and I saw Judge Barnes laying by his desk.
Blood coming out the back of his head.
And I saw Julie.
That's when he did pull on the deputies grabbed me and pulled me out of the courtroom.
Nichols was making his bolt for freedom.
He then went uh down the stairs, and one of the deputies went running after him.
Having shot the judge and the court reporter, Brian Nichols began his escape.
The court reporter though, come on, man.
Escape from the county courthouse.
Nichols targeted the judge because he really believed the judge was probably responsible for his fate.
While the judge may have been responsible for having finding him guilty or not guilty in imposing sentence, what Nichols is unable to process in his mind is that it's not ultimately the judge's fault.
It's his fault.
He's the one that chose to engage in the rape.
He's the one that chose to engage in the violence.
He's the one that got himself arrested.
But he's unable to take accountability for his actions.
Nichols was trying to escape the courthouse, but was being chased down.
He got down.
You probably, if he had let the trial go, he probably would have got another hung jury or something and probably been on that off.
Onto the bottom floor.
And when the deputy came running after him through the door, he said, fuck that shit.
Shot the deputy also, Deputy Teasley.
I thought in my mind that uh maybe a deputy had shot by Nichols, but he had shut.
One of the one of the deputies that proceeded down the stairs behind him.
It was horrible.
It was a horrible day.
As 43-year-old father of two, Hoyt Teasley lay dying, Nichols went on the run.
It really shows not only the level of savagery and sadism that Nichols was willing to go to in order to gain his freedom in a way that was clearly never going to work long term.
But also his lack of accountability.
What makes Nichols such a dangerous prisoner is that he's willing to go to really great lengths to get his needs met.
That's just the way Nichols thinks.
There's no other way for him to escape threat other than violence.
Unaware of his client's killing spree, defense attorney Barry Hazen was making his way to the courthouse to get ready for the 9-15 start.
I said, Walking to the courthouse, I heard sirens.
Maybe four or five seconds after I heard them, these cars were whizzing past me.
Police cars whizzing past me to the courthouse.
Yeah, any time you get an active shooter call, everyone's coming.
Someone said he fanned the hammer.
And again, I saw deputies pouring out of the courthouse from different different exits.
Guns drawn.
And I I knew.
I just knew that it had to involve Brian.
One of the deputies who I know came running up the street and shoved me into a storefront and said, You're in danger.
Your client has just shot Judge Barnes.
I was concerned because he was now out.
I then called my wife and told her to get our daughter out of school.
And do not go home.
If he was looking for revenge, I don't know how he felt about me.
But it was a pretty tense tense time.
I mean, we didn't know where he was or what he might took.
Intent on evading justice.
Nichols turned his attention to getting out of Atlanta.
In 2005, I was working at the Atlanta Journal Constitution.
I was a featured reporter.
And it was a good job.
I parked in the usual spot, always parked.
And I used to hit there around 9.30 or so.
I didn't have the radio on, so I didn't hear any news.
We'll go 1.5 speed guys in a chat.
Let me know if it's too fast.
Going on.
It just seemed like another ordinary day.
So I walked my car and was about to leave when the SUV pulled in beside me.
Nice looking black man with no shirt.
Said, Do you know how to get to Linux Square, which is a local shopping mall?
Being polite.
I started giving him direction.
He got out of the car and walked around.
I didn't think anything about it until he pulled gun.
Oh shit.
John was the fourth person Nichols had confronted since escaping.
He was completely unaware the man holding the gun was a multiple murderer.
Yeah, at this point he killed three people.
When he said, give me your keys, and I said to myself, this is the carjacking.
Just stay calm, give him the keys, and he'll drive off, and that's it.
But then when he took my keys and unlocked the trunk and told me to get in, I knew this was serious business.
He was giving orders like a drill instructor.
He was not erratic.
He was amazingly calm.
He was just upset that I wouldn't follow his directions.
Could you imagine like some dude without a shirt just comes up like, hey man, I'm taking your car.
You may or may not live after this, but just get in the trunk of the car, nigga.
You may and might not.
You know, I mean, he probably said if you if you know, they always say, if you don't just follow what I say and you'll live.
But you you realistically are like, man, I might not make it out of this.
We kind of stared at each other for a few minutes, and he said, get in the trunk, I'll kill you.
I shook my head.
And he kept steps closer and flared at me, and he said, Get in the trunk.
Oh, I'll shoot you.
And after I refused to get into the trunk, he ended up hitting me over my eye and I fell.
And then I scrambled to my feet and ran out this way.
Oh shit.
This was the most terrifying thing that ever happened.
I never had a gun pointed at me.
I'd never been threatened.
But I think I was reasonably calm considering the situation.
And I went two blocks up that way and ran into a fellow reporter.
And he told me that the shooting at the courthouse, the judge had been killed.
Two other people shot.
And he said, sounds like the same guy.
And he said there was police for down a block interviewing people.
And so I went there, told him what had happened, described my green Honda that he had taken.
And then I went to the medical center to get my wrist fixed and my eyes stitched.
And he pissed a whip that boy, man.
That was my morning so far.
That was like a little bit more.
Well law enforcement would nine o'clock in the morning.
Yeah, bro.
That's the rap for the rest of the day.
I ain't going to work.
Hey, man.
Could you imagine calling your boss?
Like, uh, you're like, hey, boss, um, I'm not coming to work today.
Why?
You won't believe it, but I got pistol whipped in my head is bleeding and I'm at the hospital right now.
Some dude, like allegedly, like, uh Well, you even call your boss.
You just don't show you.
No, but could you yeah, yeah, but but they'd be like, oh, you're fucking lying.
This is Cap, right?
I'm just serious.
Look at the news.
Like could you imagine?
And then photos of the stitches with the with the you know the laser phone.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, yeah.
Back then, yeah, they're using yeah, they're fucking they're using the shitty trazer.
Like that doesn't look real.
Looks like ketchup.
Could you imagine?
Like, yeah.
Could you imagine?
Yeah, they're not good cameras.
Those cameras suck.
But could you imagine, like, yeah, Buzz, I ain't coming in today.
I just got a pistol whip.
And somebody stole, and I can't make it.
So they stole my car.
That's a fucking lie, you're fired.
Could you imagine?
You're a lie, you're lying.
Fired.
You can zoom them, right?
For firing you.
Oh, that's something that I think.
Yeah, I mean, whatever.
But if you I mean, you got bigger problems if they won't let you get the day off after pistol.
I was a rap on the rest of the day, bro.
Of course.
I ain't going to work for a week after that shit.
A day?
Man.
Oh, give me a week at least.
Got some trauma, man.
This is the bullshit, man.
You imagine like this fucking white dude over here, just you know, this is 10 years, what almost 20 years ago now, so he he probably had like some hair at that point, and you know, probably was slimmer and shit.
You know, you're like, yeah, I'm feeling good.
And this black dude without a shirt just pistol whips you.
Like, yeah.
That's rap for the rest of the day, man.
Poor thing.
Yeah, I'm I'm done.
Desperately trying to locate Nichols.
The scene at Fulton County Court.
I'll tell you this, black dude stops over directions now, he ain't never stopping.
He ain't fucking stopping.
He's gonna he's gonna give us keep on going, man.
He ain't gonna fucking stop nothing no more.
So was one of devastation.
It still affects me.
Up to this day.
It's hard to talk about it.
Jones Barn was the only judge, he was my friend.
Julie was special.
She was really time.
Julie.
Yeah, and you do build an attachment with these guys, guys.
Remember, because the bailiff, right?
You're in charge of protecting the judge, right?
So obviously he feels some type of way, right?
Like you he failed.
He literally failed.
So, you know, and you build a relationship with these people, etc.
So I I I can see his perspective here.
He made sure that the jury got a cake every morning.
She was really, really nice.
Julie Brando.
She was warm and wonderful and friendly.
It went with Judge Ball.
Oh, showing the court reporter was crazy though.
Like, come on, man.
His chambers was a place of if you had some time between cases and you wanted to hang out somewhere, you can go there and just sit there and eat popcorn.
Have a cup of coffee.
He didn't have a walk on the store.
All the other judges did.
His was wide open.
And Julie Brandout had that attitude also.
She was just this really nice person.
As Atlanta Police Department took over the crime scene, officers had no idea where Nichols was and offered a substantial reward for information.
And Atlanta's gonna take over, probably Atlanta Homicide is gonna take over this investigation, guys.
Um and then and then honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if something like this goes over to uh GBI, which you guys might be wondering, Mario, what the fuck is GBI?
These guys right here, guys.
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
Boom.
Boom.
That's think of them as like the uh this is the FBI for the state, right?
Uh let's go in there.
Wiki.
The wiki would probably be better.
Just to kind of give you guys an overview.
Boom, Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
Right here.
Right.
State Bureau of Investigation of the U.S. state of Georgia's independent statewide agency that provides this to Georgia's criminal justice system in areas of criminal investigations.
So, yeah, something like this, uh, it might go up to these guys, and obviously the feds are gonna be involved too.
What he had done was to drive my car up one level, backed it into the parking space, taking my navy blazer out of the car, put it on, walked across to the martyr, the mass transit system, took the train to Lenox Square.
With Nichols now the focus of one of the biggest manhunts America had ever seen.
Police were until that's married.
He knew he had to get rid of that car immediately.
Thirteen hours on from his first kill, he was about to take another innocent life.
He was looking for a place to hide or whatever.
And there was a house with the door open, and that was a federal agent, and they're working on his bathroom.
The crime spree continued with Nickel shooting and killing U.S. customs agent David Wilhelm.
Uh yeah.
This is um yeah.
Uh terrible.
And he he used to be a customs agent, and then obviously, as you guys know, U.S. Customs Service merged with Immigration Naturalization Service to create immigration customs enforcement ice, and then under ICE, originally was ICE Office Investigations, right, which had the special agents, then ICE Office of uh uh Enforcement and Removal Operations at ERO, but net then it went office of investigations, changed his name to Homeland Security Investigation HSI.
So this guy was really an HSI agent, but he started off as a customs special agent first.
Um and then obviously customs merged with INS, etc.
At his home.
From the Homeland Security Act.
He then steals his pickup truck, badge, and pistol.
It was a pretty tense tense time.
I mean, we didn't know where he was, what he might took.
What we did find out is that he committed another another killing that night.
We shot the federal marshal, um, which was about a half a mile from my house.
Not the marshal, the the fucking, he was an agency special agent, which here is right here.
Is actually a little video dedicated to him.
play a portion of it for y'all Yeah, super loud as fuck.
Assistant SAC David Wilhelm, U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Immigration, and Customs Enforcement, ICE.
I'm gonna fast forward as you guys can see here, he was an ASAC assistant special agent in charge, um, which means he's not a supervisor, guys.
So, okay, so here's the hierarchy.
You go special agent, then above special agent, you got a supervisory special agent, then above supervisory special ages, you got assistant special agent in charge.
Then above him, you got deputy special agent in charge, and then above that is a special agent in charge or the sack.
This guy was um two levels up, so he's a higher ranking um special agent, obviously, from a managerial stamp standpoint, right?
He was an ace actor.
...North Carolina, where David Wilhelm grew up, knew he was special.
What a A friend scribed the boy, as they're North Carolina.
A little bit loud, it's loud?
His education focused on psychology, a discipline that eventually served him well in his law enforcement career.
During his college years, David worked a myriad of jobs.
Security guard, Floor Tyler led David to become a US he would say, and set up wiretaps.
An investigative technique would quickly become his forte.
Soon David was busting a large marijuana smuggling ranks by supervising wired informants surveillance teams, and then a sort of this is when he was with the customs service.
Customs service obviously does a lot of um drug investigations with um with drug smuggling, right?
Which obviously ended up becoming HSI leader on.
Here you go, U.S. Customs Service, which is a you know, agency that does exist anymore.
Boom, here you go.
Right?
And it obviously after 2003 with the Homeland Security Act that got merged with INS, but this is the um the U.S. Customs Service from back in the day.
Right now it's U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is who I used to work for, Homeland Security Investigations, right?
HSI Special Agent.
So, and it used to be called ICE.
Well, it's still called ICE, but the investigation side used to be called ICE Office Investigations.
Um, and then let me see here.
Um, we'll call the ICE.
US Customs Service Special Agent.
See, now it's called HSIC here.
Um, I want to show y'all uh what a what an old customs badge looks like.
I think you gotta put the year maybe.
Nah.
Damn it.
Yeah.
It doesn't exist anymore, so it's harder to find.
But yeah, this is him when he was in federal authorities.
A colleague commented that David took huge operations from top of the drugs, right?
Something very few customs agents.
He probably started his career on the on the border, guaranteed, right?
Getting dope like that.
Above the rest.
His skill and tenacity was recognized in 2001 when he was awarded the agency's prestigious Blue Eagle Award for dismantling a drug smuggling ring and seizing two tons of marijuana and two point four million dollars in case God damn.
That's why he became ASAC promoted up.
So the guy was a good case agent when he was on the job.
And a true reflection of David's qualities.
Upon receipt of the award, he was quick to acknowledge the contributions of his colleagues for this special recognition.
After spending 18 years doggedly pursuing drug traffickers and becoming well known as an expert in his field, David spent his last five months in Atlanta, serving as one of the top special agents in charge of ISIS in the Southeast Region.
In addition to Yeah, so now so he probably started his career on the border, because I could tell from the photos, he started his career on the border, promoted, promoted, went to DC probably, and then he ended up going and becoming an ASAC in Atlanta.
David had another passion building new homes.
He held a general contractor's license, and particularly enjoyed doing tile work.
On March 11th, 2005, David was working on a special project.
Building a new home for himself and Candy, his wife of six years.
So he was building a home when this guy came up to him.
While laying tile, David was confronted by an escaped fugitive and was killed.
David Wilhelm was only 40 years old.
Damn.
David's body was escorted from Georgia to Salisbury by a procession of more than 200 police vehicles.
That's the one thing.
When you go out and you're on the job, man, they show you a lot of respect and they hold huge vigils for you, and obviously, um, you know, uh, you know, a lot of uh they hold the ceremony and everything else like that.
Rest in peace to this guy.
Obviously, he's a HSI special agent, so you know I'm gonna show a little bit of uh love here.
Um but yeah, he was building a home, and this guy came and killed him while he was while he was uh building his home and shot him and took his gun and his badge.
So with the murder of off-duty federal agent David Wilhelm, freshly in his wake, Nichols headed 30 miles north to Gwynette County.
I was asked to come down to downtown Atlanta.
They wanted to film a request for him to turn himself in.
And all of a sudden, uh a driver gets in the van and a reporter gets in the van and we take off.
And he says, Oh, he's in Gwyneth County.
I'm just sitting in his van at this point in time.
I'm like, "Prisoner." At around 2 a.m., Ashley Smith was unpacking her new apartment when she headed out briefly to buy cigarettes.
On her return, Nichols was waiting in the shadows.
Placing a gun to her back, he forced his way in to her apartment.
He forces his way into a brunette woman's apartment.
A swap team surrounds Nichols.
Having killed four innocent people in a murderous rampage, alleged rapist Ryan Nichols was on the run.
He had reached a town 30 miles north of downtown Atlanta.
A lot of people high on psychopathy actually tend to be very impulsive and not engaged in long-term thinking.
And those four people were in his way, and so it was a means to an end.
Nichols was aware the police were on his trail and had taken a hostage, single mom, Ashley Smith.
Ashley Smith had managed to stay alive by gaining the trust of Nichols, spending the night talking about God and forgiveness.
They believe there is a hostile situation going on right now.
This is in Duluth, Georgia.
It's about 15 miles north of the Fulton County courthouse in Atlanta, where we know three people were killed yesterday.
Ashley had made Nichols breakfast and encouraged the killer to turn himself in.
He refused.
At around 9 15 a.m., Ashley managed to persuade Nichols to let her go and see her daughter.
As soon as she was in the car, she dialed 9-1-1.
Police quickly surrounded the area.
We were about maybe I don't know, 150 feet from where he was, perhaps.
And the problem was surrounding.
I thought if he doesn't come after him.
But fortunately, he waved a white shirt, and then they swamped him and he was just covered.
You couldn't even see him at that point.
He did ask for me to come talk to him.
I declined.
My attitude was that I represented him on a rape case.
I was not representing him on a murder case.
Especially given the fact that I knew the people who had killed.
Um positive Julie Brandau.
And there's no way I could do that.
As the city of Atlanta emerged from a 26-hour lockdown.
Yeah, that's gonna be a nightmare to defend that.
Brian Nichols was securely locked away.
Once again at Fulton County Jail.
When a person commits a crime out on the streets, they get arrested, they go to the police department to get processed, and then they'll go to county jail.
That's where they'll take away their belongings, dress them out, and in meet attire, and fingerprint them, book them, and they wait there until they get scheduled to go to prison.
Just under two months later, Nichols was indicted by a Fulton County grand jury on 54 counts.
Yeah, that's good.
That's not surprising that one.
Citing mental health issues, Nichols pleaded not guilty.
He may have planned these murders in order to get the death penalty.
It seems more like his goal was just to escape the courthouse, just to escape prison and not think much about the future.
While awaiting trial at Fulton County jail, Nichols attempted to enlist two sheriff's deputies while plotting an escape.
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It is safe to assume that every inmate wants to escape from prison.
I would say some personality traits of somebody attempting to escape or wanting to escape would be maybe growing out their hair one day or cutting it to the next to be able to disguise themselves as they attempt to flee.
Getting physically fit so that they are able to run or walk multiple miles, learning the layout of the surrounding areas and towns, maybe acquiring a map, a compass, a cell phone to aid them in escape.
Those are the type of ones that are kind of smart with it.
Deemed a high security risk.
Nichols was moved to Decob County jail.
He remained here for two years.
Until on July 10th, 2008, Nichols' murder trial began.
He maintained his plea of nothing.
That's how far, that's how long it takes for them to put to bring a case together.
It took three years almost for them to bring him to trial.
Not guilty by reason of insanity.
Well, it was actually the first time I'd done a witness in the trial, especially when I was one of the involved with it.
And it was um I was very nervous.
They asked me to point him out in the courtroom.
That's when I had flashback because I knew I was gonna have to tell the story again.
And the image flashed through my mind.
And yeah, I don't I wouldn't want to be in the same room with him again.
Uh very common, guys.
It's very difficult sometimes to get um uh witnesses to testify in trial, man, because they don't want to relive the situation, and then they're scared of you know, potentially um being attacked for you know, cooperating with you.
So that's always kind of a difficulty is preparing witnesses before uh a trial, especially when they're victims like this.
I actually broke down on the stand.
Nichols was sitting with attorneys next to him.
I kept looking at him, like I kept staring at him.
I could not help but stare at him.
I'm such an evil person.
It was hard because of uh the loss of my my friends, Judge and Julie, deputies.
Something I would never forget.
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I'll leave with it for the rest of my life.
In an incredible turn of events, it transpired that Nichols had killed the man about to give him his freedom.
About six months after the shooting.
We got a telephone call.
From an attorney told me that the night before the shooting, that he had a conversation with Judge Barnes about the case.
Judge Barnes told him he was gonna cut Brian Nichols free by granting a motion for directed verdict of acquittal.
Oh man.
If he had waited a little bit longer, he would have been an innocent man today.
That's gonna get a double.
Holy.
Wow.
Nope.
Wow.
If the defense thinks there's not enough evidence legally for a jury to even find somebody guilty beyond reasonable doubt, is a legal issue.
It's insufficient.
You can uh make a motion for a directed verdict of acquittal.
So Brian killed.
Because, and I'll tell you why he probably wanted to do that, guys.
Look, man.
Trial's expensive.
It's time consuming.
You don't want to be, you know, a state judge, forcing the prosecution to spend hundreds of thousands, probably a million dollars easily, right?
To prosecute someone when the evidence just ain't there.
So it's like, no, man, you know what?
Fuck this shit.
Retrial and and it's gonna get a hung trial again, uh hung jury again.
Fuck this shit.
We're not retrying this, right?
And I wouldn't be surprised if he would have said, no, you know what?
We're gonna we're gonna just acquit this shit.
It is what it is.
There's not enough of that uh evidence.
Um that's crazy, bro.
God damn.
This is the L for the one more time.
The person that was gonna cut him loose.
The case would not even gone to the jury.
Brian was gonna go home.
The jury deliberated for 12 hours over two days before finding Nichols guilty of four counts of murder and 50 other charges.
Sentenced to multiple life sentences with no chance of parole.
Nichols was spared the death penalty when the jury failed to reach a unanimous decision.
Okay, I was gonna say, for him to not get the death penalty, they probably didn't come to unanimous decision.
I think two or three people against it, but it all depends on because we saw that when we looked up Georgia uh death penalty.
Remember, guys, look.
GA.
Death penalty.
It goes.
Yeah, there you go.
Decided by the jury and must be unanimous for it to go through.
Who the jury is.
If someone is looks looks like a killer, looks like a horrible person, they're more likely to do that.
But he looked like an ordinary middle-class guy.
They blamed it on something mental, not the fact that he was a natural born killer.
Yes, I was putting to the verdict.
He blames drugs a lot for this situation.
Marijuana to be specific.
Because he's got a long time to think.
He was given over 200 years.
I think Brandon prison is worse than the death penal.
It should be sentenced to four consecutive life sentences.
Nichols was incarcerated in Georgia diagnostic and classification state prison.
With a history of escape attempts and bloods, Nichols remains a high security risk to those guarding him.
My understanding is they move him from place to base.
They do not let the same guards guard him for a prolonged period of time because they don't want them to get too comfortable with him.
Like that they, you know, they move him around.
Different people interact with him because he's considered to be a high security risk.
And I believe he is.
I think if he felt cornered, I think he would very possibly kill again.
Brandon's a person you cannot trust.
He's a wolf in cheap clothing.
Nichols' rap sheet, which features the deaths of so many law enforcement officials, has given him kudos with other prisoners.
Reputation in prison, it's pretty much everything.
So if a suspect committed a crime out on the streets, would it carry over the reputation?
That's sure.
That all depends on the notoriety.
Did it make the news?
Was a person that the crime was committed against?
Was it a police officer?
So depending on who the victim was and the circumstances of the crime, absolutely that reputation carry inside the prison.
My guess is he's probably got a bit of notoriety in there in the prison population.
If you don't have much in prison, you try to garner what will you do have, he'll die there unless he escapes.
One thing remains clear to all involved in this case.
The impact and what he had done.
He had taken a judge everyone liked.
He took a court reporter, a beautiful person.
He took a deputy life, a deputy will be there for you any time.
He impacts so many people's lives, all the families, all the victims.
No one will ever be the same.
you you you Alright.
Oh shit.
Wow, he hit her that hard.
Basically, I thought that she got shot because her wounds were so bad.
Believe that.
Brian Nichols is currently serving over 200 years in prison.
Damn.
200 years since.
That's just an insult to injury.
Like, hey, Brett Nigga, we're we're giving you enough time for you and your kid.
Like, like, goddamn.
You know?
Uh somebody said in the chat he looks like Bubba Gump.
All right, so uh, let's go ahead and cover why we didn't and yo, shout out to uh we didn't get hit with a copyright.
Dumb the monko.
All right, so why do you ask Marshal Service and why Secret Service sucks?
Guys, whenever you do protection jobs, a lot of times they're not that fun.
Um the Marshal Service sucks because they get you in under um, you know, you think like you're gonna be chasing fugitives and stuff like that.
A lot of times you're not what you end up doing is doing courtroom security, right?
And moving prisoners around that fucking blows.
It's not fun at all, okay?
You're wearing a suit, you're gonna bring your prisoners in, bringing them out.
You're the judge's bitch, making sure that everything is, you know, going around nice and smooth in the courtroom.
You're not getting action, but they market the marshal service as oh, you're gonna be chasing down fugitives, etc.
How the Marshall Service really works is when you're a brand new guy, they'll rotate you.
So you'll do three to six months where you'll do the fugitive stuff, and then you'll do three, six months where or more like six to twelve months doing the um prisoner moving and courtroom shit.
And then the winner's protection stuff, so few marshals do that, and it's such a hard gig to get, and so few um witnesses actually get winners' protection.
So the majority of marshals end up doing courtroom and uh prisoner movement.
Because guys, think about it.
The federal system, the marshals are in charge of moving these guys all around before they get before they get convicted.
Once they get convicted, and then they get sentenced by a judge to jail, that's when the Bureau of Prisons takes over.
But while they're still in the proceedings, the U.S. Marshal Service handles it all, okay?
So that's why it's not as cool as it sounds.
Second, um, Secret Service, guys, highs divorce rates, um, big attrition rates, a lot of them end up leaving.
So many Secret Service agents come on over, switch over to HSI.
And the reason why is because you don't really do investigations like that.
You're doing protection details all the time.
You're it it it protection sucks.
I'll never forget I did um a protection detail where I protected the president of Congo for like a week for um the UN in September uh in New York.
And it is not fun, guys.
It fucking blows.
You're sitting there in front of their door like this, you're watching a garbage can, you know, you're like guarding like random areas to make sure you know no one deals with the no one comes closer to protecte.
It fucking sucks, man.
So um, yeah.
Uh the only good thing about being Secret Service is it's one of the few positions where you can get overtime as a special agent.
Um, so people think it's cool, but it's not.
It sucks.
Um, a lot of them leave and a lot of them get divorced just because of that.
Uh what else?
Diplomatic security service also kind of sucks.
I ain't gonna lie to y'all.
Um, you don't really do investigations like that.
It's also a protection-based situation where you're protecting um, you know, the the um the embassy uh people.
So and again, you're for you're you travel a lot, which is cool.
Um, but these are gigs that you want when you don't have a family.
Um if you don't mind doing investigations, but me, I like doing investigations, doing real fucking cases, going to U.S. Attorney's Office, etc.
But if you just want to be a glorified security guard, that's what ends up happening when you do um Secret Service, Marshal Service, and even diplomatic security service DSS.
Um, and then what was the other thing I was gonna say?
Oh, getting a job.
Cool.
Let's get into this real quick.
Uh so this is what you're gonna do, my ninjas.
You're gonna go on Google, you're gonna go USA jobs, all right, and then you're gonna type in 1811.
This is the job service code for special agent, right?
And then you're gonna go through here, you can see all the different agencies, right?
That they have Office of Inspector General, IRS, etc.
Boom, boom, boom, right?
DEA has a thing right here, uh, from 426 to 425, so it's open for a year, right?
So they're looking for agents, Secret Service, right?
Not surprised.
FBI has some positions up here uh open, right?
So, so yeah.
Now it's not easy to get that.
So another thing you could do, you could go 1801, right?
Um investigator, uh, right, because they also um Marine Inspector, these guys are more um, some of them are gun toters, some of them are not, but this is typically uh more uniform position, and then you know what's the other one?
Let me see, is it 1899?
Oh, no, this is the that's the this is what I was sorry.
This is when you're an intern.
Uh 18, what's the one when you're an officer?
Let me look this up real quick.
CBP officer job series.
1895.
Okay.
Right.
So 1895.
The fuck?
Isn't that it?
Thank you.
Bruh.
What is that?
Oh, there you go.
Boom.
So customs and border protection.
So if you want to be a CBP officer, 1895, right?
Which is a great way to get your get your foot in the door, guys.
And then let me try here.
Uh CBP officer.
Let me see.
Border Patrol.
Because these are all great like positions to get into to get your foot in the door with federal law enforcement.
Border Patrol.
Job series.
ET96.
That makes sense because they're like brother agencies.
Boom.
Border Patrol agent, right?
So agents do pretty well, man.
And so do CBP officers, guys.
A lot of times you'll make more than a special agent because you get overtime.
And you get night differential, you get weekend pay, all that shit.
So definitely a good move.
So people said, what do you need IRS for?
1811s?
Yeah, because IRS has special agents, guys.
They do criminal investigations on financial fraud and tax evasion.
But yeah, man.
So absolutely, guys, you want to get into the federal government.
You know, obviously USA jobs where you start, but you it's gonna be very hard for you to get a special agent gig.
I ain't gonna lie to y'all, especially if you're like not prior law enforcement, et cetera.
So you might want to get your foot in the door with you know being a federal police officer.
Um, you know, federal protective services is uh uh is a good gig to get your foot in the door.
There's so many different job series codes for a police officer federally, federal police officers.
So uh okay, let's hit some chats if there are any, and then we're gonna close this thing out.
We've been on air now for almost two hours.
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Uh any other chats?
I don't see anything.
Let me let me see because my computer was bugging.
Yeah, and you just double check, make sure we didn't miss anybody.
Oh, Meekly goes, I find it funny that one lie caused a man to turn into a murderer.
Yeah, but if you just waited, man, you would have been he would have got let off, bro.
And then he could have sued that bitch.
You know what I'm saying?
Literally, he was gonna get it.
Uh Cybrist the chef goes, Stoicism is an absolute necessity for men.
This whole thing could have been avoider of Brian Held frame.
We have to be better.
What?
What are you talking about, Brian Hillframe?
Who you talking about, bro?
Brian Hill, frame, like Brian Nichols.
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
Wait, go down a little bit.
Okay.
Somebody said, no, no, no.
Go up like right after the super chat.
Mike Emranthra.
Okay.
Yeah.
No worries.
Let's see here.
Uh somebody said W ASAC Hank Schrader.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was an ASAC for the DEA in the show Breaking Bad.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Hank Schrader.
He got killed.
Yeah, yeah, man.
That was actually a very terrible scene.
Pissed me off, too.
He was one of my favorites.
Yeah.
Uh...
Oh, we got 3.5K on Twitter as well.
Shout out to you, ninjas that watching on Twitter.
So we got like 5,000 of y'all watching.
That's Liddy.
It's always a good time.
That's good.
Uh, I think we're caught with the chats then.
Uh 854 likes.
I see you guys are being cheap with the likes.
That always sucks, but you know, we can even being cheap with the likes.
Um, all right.
Do you guys want me to play a game of overwatch?
Seems like it's the customary thing we do nowadays after Fed Reacts.
I do one game of Overwatch and then, you know, we do uh a stream after.
Um I streamed earlier.
You can play with me now, right?
With this account or no.
Uh it still might be high.
But you know, we could we could do a game.
Give me ones if y'all want me to do uh Overwatch.
How high is it?
How high is it?
I don't know.
it's a diamond three or two on healer, and then like a platinum.
We could try.
Damn.
Someone said, are you gonna do uh Anna Chapman, the 304 spy?
Uh I never heard of her.
Let's Google her real quick on since I got you here.
Yeah, people want it.
The overwatch street.
Russian Intelligence Agency.
Media personality.
Who is this chick?
Speaking of Russian spies, I actually did one by the way, guys, on uh Operation, I think it's like Shadow Ghost or something on the that the FBI did.
It's on Rumble, I think.
Uh, where the FBI like found like 10 spies operating in the United States with fake names.
I'm gonna order food.
All right.
You want food?
I might have covered this girl already, guys.
Yeah, I covered this chick, bro.
Yeah, I remember this mugshot.
Yeah, guys.
She got arrested by the FBI on Operation Um.
Oh man.
Something shadows or something like that.
Yeah.
What was the name of the bruh?
Here.
We're gonna.
I covered this already, I think.
FBI operation.
Uh Russian spies.
Yeah, guys.
Ghost stories.
There we go.
Bam.
Operation Ghost Stories.
The Mexican cartels are coming, guys.
Yeah, this was it.
This was a big case.
I covered this.
I think I have a thing.
I know I recorded a video for this.
I think I have to take it off YouTube, but it should be on Rumble.
So let me.
I should be there.
See if I can find it for y'all.
I could have sworn I c I covered this man.
This is a very famous anti-osp uh anti-espionage case, guys.
So all the spies are called Anna.
So Chinaman said he could play.
Chinaman.
King Carnell say said, uh, Angie, please read my Drumble Ryan.
I don't know what it is, but go ahead.
I don't know what it is.
I can't find it, no.
Look it up.
My Rumble page because my computer was lagging for some reason.
I don't know.
Here we go, Ninja.
We got Overwatch open.
Should I try it?
We'll see right now.
I'll play one game.
Looks like you guys want me to.
Well, you know what?
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Before I do this, if I am gonna do this, by the way.
Okay.
Let me watch it.
Let me.
If I am actually gonna do this.
Oh, I want to show you guys this video.
I forgot about this.
You have to be decent, my huh?
You have to be decent.
Yeah, we need 1,000 likes first.
I'm gonna do it.
Don't go crazy.
I need 1,000 likes.
The Fulton County courthouse killer is opening up to us Channel 2 Action News 11 years after that deadly rampage.
Brian Nichols says he has stayed quiet because he didn't want to cause more damage than he already has.
It was March 2005 when Nichols escaped from the Fulton County courthouse.
That touch off one sec, guys.
Let me just fix something.
Sorry about that.
So we're gonna go ahead and hold on.
Oh, my bad.
We're gonna go uh put it right here.
Of cave.
There we go.
Chaos in the streets and a massive manhunt.
Nichols killed four people, including a judge.
He's now breaking his silence in an exclusive interview with Channel 2's investigative reporter Mark Winnie.
And Mark joins us now live inside the courthouse.
This is where the murderous rampage started.
Mark?
1,000 likes and I'll play a game with Angie.
But if not, then we'll still play.
Nah, nah, I'm just not I'm gonna get off air.
That's right.
The killings that began in this courtroom, what was then Judge Roland Barnes courtroom, gripped the nation.
And this interview with Brian Nichols offers us the opportunity to look into the mindset of one of the most notorious active shooters in America, the most notorious in Georgia's history.
I don't want to call any more damn what I have already done on the left below in the law of all we remain quiet.
The calls came from the courthouse shooter, Brian Nichols.
I did some very bad things.
His victims in March 2005, Judge Roland Barnes, court reporter Julie Brandow, Deputy Hoyt Teasley, Federal Agent David Wilhelm.
Doing an interview with you, there will be nothing that I want from that, really, other than to express my remorse for the things that I've done.
To stay inside prison rules, a friend of Nichols, who says she's the only non-family member on his small approved call list, relayed our questions with her phone on speaker on several calls.
Have you sought redemption?
Have you asked God for forgiveness?
Have you asked God for forgiveness?
I have.
I have.
I pray and I ask for forgiveness.
The subject matter wide ranging.
Would you ask him?
Were you too wrapped up in yourself?
In your selfish needs, in the time leading up to the killings and during the killings.
I think I was delusional.
think that drugs and alcohol play the part in those delusions.
If there's something that someone could take away from this talk, It will be to recognize and understand the harm that marijuana can be.
Was justice.
Guess who must have been high the whole time?
Done to Brian Nichols.
You know, it doesn't matter.
Things are as they are.
If I could go back and do things differently, of course I work.
I can't play the hand that I wish I would build.
Now I have to complete the hand that I had.
Now there is much, much more that we talked to Brian Nichols about.
Was there almost a fifth murder victim?
More about the role he says marijuana played.
And is he sorry for himself or his victims?
That and more coming up on Channel 2 Action News at 6.
Now, Mark, of course, we all know interviews like this don't just happen overnight.
I mean, it's been 11 years since this happened.
But can you give us some insight into how you were able to set up this interview with Brian Nichols?
Yeah, this may be the hardest one to land.
Uh I I've ever landed.
Uh it started months ago, uh, negotiating first to try to get a camera into the prison.
Uh corrections officials indicated they had security concerns.
Then we went about uh trying to arrange this phone arrangement.
We edited out uh most of the uh sound, of course, from the intermediary, but uh even that I had to convince Nichols to do the interview.
Yep, and he did.
All right, Mark, thank you.
More at six.
Mark Winnie, live at the Fulton County Courthouse.
Thank you.
Boom.
Uh so as you can see here, um, you know, obviously he's regretful now for obvious reasons.
God's wonder years.
Um let's see here.
We got um Martin Angie, who would win a celebrity death battle?
Did he versus Brian Nichols?
Probably diddy.
Did he crazy man?
Uh and let's see.
Do we get the likes up?
Did we get the likes up?
Let's see.
Nope.
868.
Looks like we ain't doing the overwatch.
Yep, 92.
We'd have hit the 1000 guys.
So we are not gonna do the overwatch because we didn't hit the number that we were supposed to do.
I told y'all already, man.
Hit 1,000 likes and I'll play again with Angie, but I guess not since you guys don't want to like the video.
So it is what it is.
It's always so difficult to get you guys to like the video, man.
Uh let's see here.
What else?
Angie, what's your last word with the people?
Well, guys, follow the Instagram.
Uh, follow the Instagram, yes, Fat Reacts.
Um fuck the haters.
Always.
Um and thank you guys for all your support.
Follow the TikTok too.
Um it's at FedReact, FNF Reach, FNF Spanish, and Unplug Fix X, I think is all the TikTok.
Yes, X is uh my ex is Unplug Fit X guys.
No, but um the TikTok is also Unplug Fix X. Oh, the TikTok.
You made a uh TikTok for me?
Yeah.
Unplug FedEx?
Nice.
Do you post like FNF content on there?
No, you should.
Fed I mean I mean, no, like the the reels that you get on your Instagram, like that.
Oh.
Oh shit, you didn't get banned yet?
You roasting women.
You didn't get banned yet?
Uh some of them get banned.
Well, thanks, AJ.
Yeah, some of them get banned.
Yeah.
Oh well.
Haters gonna hate, right?
Uh yeah, yeah.
Video, we had to take that off YouTube, guys.
We're gonna re-upload it to Rumble in full for y'all.
Yeah, video had to go down.
There was some.
Yeah, you gotta be safe, man.
On the YouTubes, if you know what I'm saying.
Crazy activity.
So yeah.
Yeah, 960 guys.
It was experienced for me too, though.
Uh that yeah.
That was my first time on a yacht.
So what are your thoughts?
First time being on a yacht.
I don't want to do it again.
I didn't like it.
Bunch of crazy stuff going on there.
But um, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah!
Yeah.
So I didn't really want to see some some just crazy people.
And like, I don't like seeing naked women too.
I don't like that.
So yeah, uh, I didn't like that much.
My friends and I were like, where is this?
What is this?
But yeah, I mean it was fun though.
It was an experience.
Um then after the after the after the dodge was more fun, and I had fun after, so it was a good experience.
It wasn't good like going out.
And I was with mine the whole time, so it was good.
All right.
I have fun.
Uh we will do another one for y'all, don't worry.
Uh next live event, we'll we'll do a yacht party for y'all.
Um let's see here.
Hopefully, better people.
No.
We'll have more girls there, AJ, so it's gonna be even better.
But nice girls.
No more.
Oh, no more girls?
No, it's gonna be more girls.
But like good decent girls.
We had like a hundred there.
Guys, we couldn't get all the girls in the yacht because it was a capacity, and the guy was being a fucking hater, man.
That's why some of our guys couldn't get on, which got me really fucking pissed off.
Yo, I was his clothes to call Alduber and go home when they vote left us.
Oh, yeah.
Because I saw you all angry and I was like, yeah, I'm not gonna do Lumar know angry, like I'm not even gonna talk to him.
Like, that's not happening.
And I told my girls, like, yeah, we're gonna go.
I was so pissed.
They're just gonna go.
Because I left the guys, man.
I was like, what the fuck?
Some bullshit, man.
You were very pissed.
I was very angry.
Like, I don't give a shit about the yacht.
I was mad for the guys, man.
If you guys saw like a video of Bernard like at the beginning, and then you saw one at the end, you have thought it was too different people.
Yeah, I was pissed, man, because they didn't let my guys on, bro.
Like that.
I was fucking mad.
Like I, you know, whatever.
But uh, let's see here.
What are the likes at?
We are at 965.
All right, sorry, ninjas.
Y'all, y'all didn't like the video, so no overwatch on this on this one.
We need to get the likes up.
You know.
Um I mean, we'll play overwatch, but we won't stream it, right?
No, we won't stream it.
Because I'm tired.
No, I mean, we we just no, we just won't stream it.
So I streamed earlier for them.
So I I just I just want to play.
I have to play.
I've been cleaning all day and doing stuff.
All right, cool.
And I have to clean after, so all right, ninjas.
So uh we gonna get off.
Uh love you guys.
Hope you guys enjoyed the show.
Um, we answered a bunch of good questions that you guys had, by the way, as well.
Um so yeah, that's it.
Um we'll catch you guys tomorrow.
We're gonna have uh the crypto bros on.
Andrew dollar cost crypto and and uh aka Miguel and uh Cause of A Crypto, aka Charlie, and then we're gonna have Andrew Wilson on with some girls.
It'll be a good show.
And then Wednesday we got Sully Man.
Uh we got some other special guests that are gonna be in town as well.
I'm gonna try to see what we can do.
Um I won't say who.
Um, but uh but yeah.
Um but love y'all ninjas.
Follow me on X, Unplug FedEx and uh Rumble, Rumble.com slash Fresh Fit, Rumble.com slash FedReacts.
And uh yeah, man.
We'll catch you guys.
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