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Fed Explains The Infamous Case Of Jennifer Pan

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	And we are alive.
	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to Fed Reacts that are gonna be covering Jennifer Pan.
	This one's a crazy one, guys.
	Um, let's get into it.
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	Welcome to uh Fed React.
	Um I'm hearing a little bit of feedback.
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	Um what's up, guys?
	Welcome.
	Far sorry for the late guys.
	Uh we had uh a bunch of things going on, as you guys know.
	We are in the process of moving.
	I estimate we'll probably be moved into our new spot by next week.
	Well, actually we have to, because we gotta be out of here.
	Uh so next week we'll be in the new uh studio, um, finalizing some final touches.
	Um it's looking really nice, really professional.
	I think you guys are really gonna like it when you see it.
	Um it's probably gonna be better than this one, man.
	Be honest with y'all.
	As much as I enjoyed being here, uh the new studio is definitely gonna be way sleeker, sharper, better.
	Um the internet speed is gonna be better too.
	Um, so uh we won't have uh some of these lag issues that you guys have seen here with uh this spot.
	So um and I showed you guys some of the download and upload uh at the last place, so we internet should not be a problem.
	We should be able to run it uh at a very good speed.
	Um had an episode yesterday with some girls, went well.
	Um we had Zirka in the house and some chicks.
	Uh I had to kick out two of the girls because they were annoying as hell.
	Um one girl just literally just wanted to argue the whole time and can't even make any solid points.
	They were talking shit about you outside.
	Oh, they were?
	Yeah.
	Because I was in the valet waiting for my car, and they were and they they you just kicked them out, and I was like going down the elevator with them.
	And when uh when I was waiting the ballet, they just came out and they started talking shit about you.
	Uh of course.
	What'd they say?
	That you're toxic.
	Of course.
	You're toxic, they you just wanna be right, whatever, whatever, you know what they always say.
	Yeah.
	That was a very interesting conversation.
	It's it's funny because um the biggest thing with that chick, right?
	Was um she said that we're teaching guys to be toxic.
	Um, wanting women that are younger and you know, not you know, with a promiscuous past, etcetera.
	That's a toxic mindset, etcetera.
	Uh we should want girls that are like smart and educated and all this other crap.
	And I was like, you know, for the past two hours I've been listening to you talk about what you want in a man.
	We went through the calculator, put what you wanted in your guy, make fucking quarter million dollars and all this other crap.
	And I didn't bat an eye.
	I didn't say, oh, well, you know, you should really like a fat guy that doesn't have his stuff together.
	Like, give him a chance.
	He's a nice guy.
	Like, why don't you get like you that's what you should like?
	Like I didn't call her toxic for her once.
	Um, but she went ahead and said that we're toxic, and I was like, what the hell?
	So it's like it's just I got fed up.
	I'm just like, yo, this is ridiculous now.
	Like so many women think it's appropriate to tell guys um your views and what you want in women is toxic.
	And it's like, no.
	It's like male standards.
	Like, why is it that male standards are constantly demonized, but female standards are sit there.
	We sit there and celebrate them.
	Right?
	Ah, even me.
	I celebrate them.
	I tell them, yo, yeah, you should just you should, you know, try to get a guy that's competent in every degree.
	I don't never shame a girl for what she wants, but women feel the need to always shame men for what they want.
	And I just find it crazy, man.
	It's we literally live in a clown world.
	Sometimes I think I'm surrounded by morons, which I am a lot of the times, unfortunately, which is really sad, but it is what it is.
	Um you got that vein popping yesterday.
	Yeah, dude, I was so annoyed.
	I was so so annoyed.
	And it's always girls like hair her with the hair hats that got the most to say.
	Hey yo.
	Yeah, bro.
	Yeah, man.
	Tommy Sodomware was not lying, bro.
	Yo, it don't matter how educated, whatever, bro.
	They always are the first ones to say some dumb shit.
	And just see how just when you guys were wondering, it wasn't even her that I was trying to.
	I kicked out.
	I was gonna let her dumbass stay.
	She got up to leave when I kicked out the Canadian who was being disrespectful.
	That's why I really kicked out.
	And she was like, You think you fucking talk it too?
	And I was like, what the bro, get the hell out of here, bitch.
	Like, what get out of here?
	I made a joke that I can't repeat.
	But uh, bro, come on, man.
	I'm about to fuck you up like a certain guy with a certain mustache back in the 1940s.
	You know, you know, uh fucking French man.
	It is what it is.
	Um, but uh yeah, so got her the fuck out of there.
	And um, yeah.
	Yeah, she put her shoes outside.
	I don't know if she did.
	I don't know if she you were there.
	What did she?
	No, I I wasn't here.
	I left when you started screaming.
	I was like, No, I'm not gonna have this.
	You love what I was like, I see it's the main puppy.
	I see it like, yeah, it is.
	I'm out.
	I left.
	I was like, no, that's gonna happen.
	I didn't want it to see it.
	No.
	Fair enough.
	You losing hairs as always, these girls.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You came by uh when did you come by?
	I came like around like me and uh be just like five minutes before you kick those girls out.
	I left.
	Shout out to Angie.
	She came by and put some laundry in and left.
	Yeah, but it's what it should be.
	I was like, oh shit.
	I organized the room a little bit because it was a mess in these things outside here.
	Yeah, because I just like look up, but she goes into the room to clean the place up.
	So thank you.
	I appreciate that greatly.
	I don't like seeing the case.
	And and she came from work too, so shout out to her for that.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, um, and she cut a workout shirt to be here with you guys today.
	So um, yeah.
	I did what about you, Mo?
	What's what's new with you before we get into this?
	I actually had came straight from the gym on God.
	So um but yeah, man.
	I kept sweating, what's your sweat?
	Huh?
	I kept sweating, what's the sweat?
	I actually take I actually take a shower at the gym.
	So I come to get clean.
	So okay, okay.
	It's it's part of like a normal routine.
	I always have like I literally always have a change of clothes, change of pants, change of drawls, change of socks as I drop my phone.
	But um but I know you know it's interesting.
	I've always this is back when I was an athlete.
	I noticed this too.
	Like uh guys are always okay, like with like you know, showering at a gym or like at the locker room or whatever.
	Women never do it though.
	Disgusting.
	Like and I remember when I was on the on the rowing team, right?
	And we used to like you know, that the male athletes were always okay with showering.
	The female athletes never shower, bro.
	Of course, it's disgusting.
	You know the amount of germs and bacteria and everything though, from old random people that just shower there.
	It's disgusting.
	Well, they clean it every day.
	This is when I was at the athletic facility, they clean it.
	So we had a very good athletic facility.
	They used to clean that.
	But but female sports, they uh females don't like uh seeing other I I asked one of the girls one time on the rowing team.
	I was like, why don't you have a shower after practice?
	Like, what the hell's wrong with you guys?
	And she was like, Well, you know, girls are really you know awkward with their bodies, and I was like, Oh no, and also there are a bunch of lesbians too that just like to stare.
	Like, no.
	And there are a bunch of well, at least in my gym, there's a bunch of homeless people that in and they use like this like canding gyms, and they pay the membership just to shower in the gyms.
	It's disgusting.
	No, I will never shower in the gym, public gym, ever.
	Well, I have in the past, I don't care.
	But I mean, um, you know, I think guys are okay with that, but I noticed that with the female male female and male athletes, the big difference.
	Anyone that's ever played sports, uh, like maybe division one or something like that, even division two or division three, um, at a school, the guys will always use the shower, whether it was baseball, us, rowing, basketball, whatever it is.
	We all use the showers, right?
	No one cared, right?
	You just kind of be in your corner, just like you know, pissed, uh you know, not pissed, but like you don't, you know, just kind of look at you, you you don't look at nobody else.
	They really like that, right?
	Um, but with the women, they never use a shower, and I always thought that was weird, but I guess it's weird.
	It's not weird at all.
	It's weird that you guys use shower that's that's actually very weird that y'all don't shower.
	Yeah.
	It's a female thing, bro.
	I'm telling you.
	Yeah, I've I've I noticed it uh when when I was uh in college.
	Like females just don't like showering with each other.
	Because it's disgusting.
	I mean, not that we do either, but it's like bro, we got niggas gotta get clean, man.
	We smelled it's disgusting that y'all don't shower.
	What the heck?
	We shower at home, but this these bathrooms are public bathrooms.
	It's like showering like a bathroom from a gas station.
	You just wear slides.
	Huh?
	You just wear slides.
	No, but it's still it's still like old no, and it and also you guys, also men shower you guys wash your hands and you use this thing like to to to dry them.
	The thing the thing with the air, like the air blower, the air blower.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That thing's disgusting too.
	Actually, don't use it.
	That actually collects all the bacteria from the bathroom, like boob bacteria, beat bacteria, and all disgusting things are out there, and just pulls it out in your hands.
	We actually use paper towels.
	Yeah, I was gonna say towel.
	Yeah, men use paper towel or bring your own towels that you dry off.
	It was air drying in there with their walls.
	That's weird.
	It's probably y'all women that she's actually I think she's snitching a little bit.
	All right.
	Um, so today's episode, guys, we're gonna be covering uh Jen Pan.
	Pan or Pam?
	Pan.
	Pan, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	This one is crazy.
	I remember watching this the uh the first time and I was like, what the hell, bro?
	Um, this is gonna be a JCS breakdown, actually.
	Shout out to JCS.
	Uh they haven't posted in a while, they'd be slacking.
	But uh but when they do post, uh it's some heat, man.
	So um we got the video ready, Mo?
	Yes, we do.
	Cool.
	Oh, uh if you guys want to super chat to the show, it's FNF Super Chat.com, same one as for Fresh and Fit.
	Uh get your super chat right on screen.
	Are there any rants or anything that we need to read or yes?
	One second.
	Okay.
	We'll hit the chats right now then and then we'll get to the show.
	Yeah, it's just it's just a little few.
	Yeah.
	And thank you guys so much for the support.
	Um and guys, don't forget to like the video.
	Yeah, man.
	Support on Rumble, guys.
	Uh um, make sure to uh go over and open up a tab on YouTube and on Rumble.
	Watch it on both if you guys don't mind doing that.
	That'd be really, really helpful.
	Um so if you're watching this on YouTube right now, cool, no problem, but open it up on Rumble and like it as well.
	And uh make guys download the Rumble app and support on Rumble.
	Yo, Rumble took a huge stand yesterday and basically told the British government F you were not gonna cancel Russell Brand.
	Yo, you know things are getting crazy when the government is literally sending letters to social media platforms saying, yo, we want you to cancel people.
	Like, isn't that crazy?
	Like, dude, you you want that.
	Oh, we're just inquiring about whether Russell Brand monetizes on your platform.
	So what if he does?
	Like, he hasn't violated any terms of service on this platform.
	Why are you guys trying to demonetize someone?
	Like, how about you guys come up with some formal charges first and some goddamn proof?
	Why did Russell Brand do?
	Uh, they're alleging that he uh I think four women came out and said that he sexually assaulted them from 2006 to 2013.
	I know, I know, I know.
	Stop the cat.
	I know.
	I know, dude.
	I know.
	Fucking 20 from 2006 to like 2013, a bunch of girls were uh alleging that he sexually assaulted them.
	I would say we'll come out with like legit evidence.
	You know, there is uh my favorite comedian got almost cancelling.
	Uh his name is Chris Delia.
	He's oh he's very hated.
	Um but and he admitted that he did it because the girls pulled out evidence and shit.
	You know, and people just started him just started to cancel him and not inviting him to chose, no uh wait, but He did do it?
	Yeah, he did.
	Like he did abuse some fans that the girls come with proof?
	Yeah.
	Oh, they actually had proof.
	Okay.
	But I mean, it wasn't that he grape or anything.
	It's just that he had uh sexual intercourse with like uh minors.
	But no crazy like minors like 17, 18.
	Because they were hair uh in America?
	Yes.
	Did you know that like 35 states in America, the age of consent is 16?
	Well uh not that I condone that, but I mean the law is the law, right?
	Romeo and Juliet.
	Uh and then there's Romeo and Juliet laws too.
	Well, I don't know.
	I think it might have been 12 from woman and Juliet laws.
	But um, but yeah, dude, it's it's it's crazy.
	And I think the age of consent in England, because one of the girls that came against Russell Brand, the age of consent in England in England is 16.
	Well, what can I tell you?
	And well, and then he admitted that he did it and he got cancelled from everything.
	He took they took him out from movies and like shows that he had to do and shit, and now he's like old, you know, done.
	Do you know that comedian that you were watching yesterday that I told you that I saw that he's he makes a podcast and he's very famous.
	Um that I told you, oh, I know this guy.
	I don't know his name, but he was on Crowder yesterday.
	Yeah, well, they are best friends.
	Okay.
	They are best friends.
	Okay.
	They used to make a podcast together.
	Okay.
	Well, Chris Dyer has a podcast too.
	Okay.
	And nobody watches him anymore.
	But uh, but yeah, Russell Brand basically um that that's what went down.
	So but they they literally sent a letter to Rumble, Angie.
	Like the US the not the US, the UK government, the British government or parliament, whatever they want to call it, sent a letter to Rumble saying, We are inquiring if he monetizes on your platform, and um that you know, basically they're respectfully asking for to get him cancelled on Rumble, and Rumble said no.
	Which is but YouTube demonetized them immediately off allegations, which is scary.
	Demonetize someone for accusations, nothing in proof.
	None of these girls went to the police.
	Not one single police report has been filed.
	That's crazy.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like they should come out with evidence, not just saying because that's just they did a documentary.
	They made a documentary, and then I think two news companies uh made uh pieces on it.
	Man.
	Fifteen years later.
	And and it's interesting how you know, when he was with Katy Perry, when he was on top of the world, and he was a liberal, no one said anything.
	But as soon as he starts talking about Big Pharma, how a certain cough cough, uh they made a bunch of money on it, uh, you know, the scam demic, etc.
	Now they're coming after it.
	This is crazy.
	I always wonder why why women wait or this kind of people always wait so long to come out with this stuff.
	They wait until you become a Republican.
	And money.
	You know what I'm saying?
	That's when they wait.
	You know, it's it's like uh if you run for president, you want to be a US Supreme Court Justice, you become a Republican, whatever, then they're gonna come out.
	You look at Donald Trump, you look at Johnny Depp, you look at uh Andrew Tate, you look at um who else they did this Russell Brand now, um Johnny Depp.
	Johnny, yeah.
	Steven Crowder, his wife made some bullshit lie lies as well on him, you know.
	Uh dude, it is crazy to me how um the like people come out of nowhere with allegations decades after the fact, like Donald Donald Trump too.
	I remember this woman came out, she said that he taught he like uh he graped her at a dressing room at a store back in like the 90s, and in my head I'm like, what the hell?
	And you when you read the lawsuit, it looks like it sounds like a goddamn fairy tale.
	It's like bro, and she wrote a book about it.
	And and when when this was all going down, she did a book tour.
	She did a book tour.
	The woman that accused Brett Kavanaugh who was gonna become a US Supreme Court Justice, she had to go fund me.
	She made a million dollars off it if she released the book.
	That's why they do it.
	Amber Heard got a bunch of uh movie roles uh after she accused Johnny Depp.
	I hate that in 2016.
	Like, dude, it is cra like I was talking about this yesterday.
	Like they they need to if if if the reason why these accusations are coming 10, 20 years after the fact is because there's a huge incentive for women to make them because they can make money, they could get fame, they can get status, they can get uh promoted, they could get so many different benefits.
	But here's the thing if nothing happens, nothing happens.
	Yeah.
	Uh look at the woman that she uh accused Christian Ronaldo.
	He got acquitted.
	Oh, yeah.
	Uh the woman that accused he can come to the United States.
	Can you believe that?
	He can't come to the US.
	No, because of those allegations allegations, because of that shit.
	They said in the podcast that I watch that he cannot come to the United States because of that shit.
	No way.
	He never got arrested for it though.
	I don't know.
	They said the guy said it.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	It's just crazy.
	And it happened in like Vegas.
	And it happened a long time ago, like 2009 or something.
	And and it came out two years later.
	Yeah.
	That's it's crazy.
	This is this is for you guys to you know raise awareness.
	You should be careful with you with who you handle with, like with who you mingle with.
	Because I mean, it's so easy for people to to make allegations and you know, fuck you over.
	So you gotta be smart now.
	Like you gotta be real smart when you do something with someone, I don't know, like make them sign an NDA or something.
	I don't know.
	Just be smart.
	You know?
	Play safe.
	Man, this shit is crazy.
	Angie, I'm gonna start tell having you give these hosts NDAs for me.
	I told you we should do it.
	She actually told Hey, make these bitches sign NDAs so they'll come after us.
	Yo this shit is crazy, man.
	This shit is crazy.
	I I think we just should do it.
	You gonna start giving an NDAs for me?
	Hey bitch!
	I make a smile.
	And I just put it next to the bed.
	laughter laughter
	Yo.
	Yo, bro.
	You know what?
	We know, but actually you you know what we should do?
	Just grab a like a little tablet like Dan Bilserien.
	He makes you sign an NDA before like to enter to his house.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We went to go.
	Well, we went to go collab with uh Dan Pose.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Everybody knows we talked about on the podcast too.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	When we went to go to Dan Blazarin's spot guys to do the podcast, he made all of us sign NDAs, which is smart.
	Like, bro, that's how it's gotta be.
	If you don't sign that shit, you cannot enter the house and you cannot talk about anything that they say there.
	So yeah, you should do that.
	Would you grab that little laptop there that is doing nothing and just like make NDAs like digital NDAs and take pictures of the speeches?
	But Dan is fucking awesome.
	Um you know what I mean.
	But I can see why he does that to protect himself.
	You know what I mean?
	But yeah, he's gotta do it with like the girls and shit like that.
	You know what I mean?
	Because he's around um these crazy women all the time.
	There's a bodycat of like 500.
	Some some million, some crazy shit.
	But he's he's a good guy.
	Um we're gonna have him back on the show, guys.
	I was actually talking to him uh literally like two days ago.
	Um good guy.
	We'll have him back on probably um here in Miami, or we might go back out to Vegas and and do something with him.
	You know, when you weren't when you guys were doing that interview, there was once when I w uh I was gonna I was gonna get something from the car, uh fresh car, the lumbo that we had.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I and I came out and when I came back, he was heading out because he was you you guys just finished the interview.
	When I come was coming back to give you the keys of the car, he saw me and he was like, Who the fuck are you?
	Oh And I was like, Oh no, I'm with fresh and fate, guys with the fresh fate.
	Oh, okay, okay, you can go.
	That's fucking funny.
	Who the fuck are you?
	What the fuck are you doing?
	Oh man, yeah, because when we were doing the interview, guys, um Angie helped us set up whatever, but she was in the back.
	Yeah, I was in the back with Michael Samson.
	Mike Sartane and his girl, so I don't think Dan ever saw her really.
	No.
	So um actually, no, yeah, because when we came, his assistant was there.
	It was assistant helping.
	Yeah.
	So you guys.
	Yeah.
	But he never saw us, like, yeah.
	Really saw us, so uh, but nice guy.
	Nice guy.
	Uh it's kinda sad how people in the media like try to portray him in a certain way.
	Uh regular dude, man.
	Yeah.
	Really chill, regular dude.
	So um, yeah.
	Okay, let's uh get into this um this thing with Jen uh with uh Jen Pan.
	Chats.
	Oh shit.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes, yes, let's do that real quick.
	Uh bitch Thoi Noyen.
	Okay.
	Bless you.
	You should bring up this case, uh bring up this case up the next time you talk about average girls having leverage in the dating market.
	Jennifer Pan was a mid girl, but still got her boyfriend to set up a murder for her.
	Yeah, shit is crazy.
	Hey Mario, I hope you're doing well.
	I want to suggest covering uh the case of South Seith Jackson on Fed Reacts.
	It's really gnarly to see that I think would make for a gripping episode.
	Um I got you.
	Uh let's see here where we are here.
	Oh, just wanted to let you know that I always look forward to your videos.
	Thank you so much, man.
	A lot of y'all support uh Fed Reacts, man.
	I really appreciate it.
	Uh I know your stats on Heights, Myron, but you gotta use that balcony for a morning cup of tea or a healthy breakfast at least once.
	That's one hell of you in the morning.
	Sun looked glorious on last week's music marathon stream.
	Yeah, no, I I'd be on there sometimes.
	I just sit really close to the door.
	Why?
	I sit really close.
	Man, fuck that, man.
	We're high up.
	Very scared of heights.
	I'm scared of heights, man.
	Yeah.
	I'd be on the balcony, but I'd be saying far back.
	Are you actually scared of heights?
	Yeah.
	Yes, you know this woman.
	Why are you trying to make it?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	So are you telling me?
	She's acting like she'll know.
	She knows.
	That's why you didn't want it to come out in the balcony in the S. Yeah, hell now.
	At the new spot?
	I'm neat.
	I need time.
	Uh so you're telling me that if we go to Fear Factor, you're just not gonna do it.
	Fear Fact is kind of crazy.
	Was it 2003?
	No, I mean there's a new one.
	Joe Rogan with hair.
	There's a new one?
	Yeah, with Ludacris.
	Ludacris.
	Yeah, you guys don't watch MTV?
	No.
	Nice these days.
	Oh, right.
	You guys are old.
	I felt for a minute.
	But you would you would go to Fear Factor?
	No, hell no.
	Especially now.
	Not you know, cow penis for $10,000.
	Oh, hell no.
	Listen to make them do that crazy stuff.
	Yeah.
	It's funny.
	Bro, Joe Rogan, man.
	Come on, man.
	He's out here interviewing people now, but I remember what he used to do back in the day.
	Making people eat cow cow dung and shit.
	Come on, man.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, man.
	Fear factor back in early 2000s was different.
	Oh shit.
	You guys know him as a bald dude, you know, asking really interesting interview questions on a podcast.
	I remember him as a dude fucking having people fighting uh underwater and doing a bunch of crazy stuff for Fear Factor back in the day.
	I still watch it.
	Still watching the 2000s.
	I just watched one of the guys going in an helicopter and taking flags out.
	The helicopter.
	Taking flags?
	Yeah, the flags.
	From the the helicopter um floor.
	What the fuck?
	Crazy.
	And it's fake it's 50,000 now the reward.
	All that for 50?
	Nah, man.
	I'm good.
	Nah, man, I'm good.
	Nah, I'm good, man.
	I'm uh I haven't even stepped foot really on the on the new building's balcony either.
	I like put like I kind of like walked out on it.
	That's why you freak out every time.
	Yeah.
	I just went right back in.
	I was like, nah, I'm good.
	I need time, man.
	I bought the condo.
	I barely even I barely even walked around the the it wraps around the balcony.
	I I don't even really go on it.
	I was like, fuck this.
	Yeah.
	Makes me nervous when she's on the balcony, man.
	So, oh no, whatever.
	Yo, she dies, they're coming after me.
	Hope y'all know that.
	I'm going to jail immediately.
	Could you imagine the headlines?
	Misogynistic podcaster throws girl off a balcony.
	Nobody's gonna care, man.
	Nobody's gonna care.
	You think nobody's gonna care?
	You think nobody's gonna.
	They're arrested fresh finally, too.
	Oh, we get the we finally got that stuttering that stuttering.
	Finally.
	I mean, my dad will like come after you, but that's that'll be it.
	Yeah, but bro.
	Yeah, but I do it.
	You think you can just I do it.
	You really think just your dad is gonna come after him?
	Everybody.
	Bro, my dad, my brother.
	She falls off the balcony and then they're gonna like then they're gonna blame me and shit.
	Like, no, man, stay your ass aside.
	You can't go on the balcony.
	On God.
	Man, they're arresting all of us.
	They're gonna arrest Chris's peanut butter ass.
	Could you imagine?
	What's going on?
	Chris was drunk as hell yesterday, too.
	Now they go it was on one.
	I mean, it's just another day in the office.
	Yeah, that's true.
	For Chris, it was.
	I love Chris.
	Chris was holy.
	Then we went to go get food after, and uh Sneeko pulled up.
	Stick couldn't understand nothing to sick will say.
	I didn't understand anything he was saying when I was here.
	What the fuck is wrong with this?
	Listen, you got you gotta understand though.
	We do live.
	Oh Lord.
	What's your what?
	Yeah, facts.
	I used to be I used to be a teacher.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	That's what I'm doing, man.
	What's I'm almost like, yo, Chris?
	So uh uh what what favorite cake you like?
	Do you like vanilla cake or chocolate cake?
	Listen, I used to be a teacher.
	What?
	I'm talking about cake.
	Hold on.
	Wait a minute.
	Hey yo, um, which girl you like?
	Uh the long hair one or short hair girl.
	I used to be a teacher.
	What?
	That's what I'm saying.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	Listen, Mo, we do a lot.
	Nico, what?
	Uh, what else we got here?
	We have this here.
	We got uh 1200 of you guys watching our rumble, another like 800 of y'all on on YouTube, man.
	So shout out to you guys.
	Uh Myron, how does it feel when there are so many people that look at you as a brother or even father, they wish they had.
	Is there any pressure sometimes, if any, even if a tiny bit, or even for a second?
	Uh, and that's from Valecia.
	Uh, there is, bro.
	Um, and but it's good though, because like there's times where I don't feel like going to the gym, or I don't feel like getting up.
	Hell, even right now before we did the show, man.
	I was really tired.
	I was like, fuck, man.
	I don't want to do anything.
	But uh, you guys literally um motivate me to get shit done a lot of the times, man.
	It's because it's way bigger than me.
	So uh you guys are a big foundation for where a lot of my discipline and motivation lies.
	I mean, I pretty much gave up alcohol all the way, 100%.
	Uh, for uh, you know, for fitness and obviously for the podcast.
	Once I started taking this shit super, super serious, uh in August of 2021, when we're getting all the hate, uh, I pretty much cut booze all the way.
	Man.
	So August of 2021, yeah.
	So shout out to y'all, man.
	Don Damocratio, man.
	Wildest time to be a um fresh fit supporter, too.
	I think.
	Yeah, bro.
	Everybody and their mom was coming at us, dude.
	It was really fucking uh bad and annoying.
	But it's okay.
	Um we got like I said before, uh, our haters.
	I got something for you, motherfuckers, man.
	I uh trust me.
	I've been I've been in the lab, I've been in the hyperbolic time chamber training.
	So uh revenge will come very soon.
	Uh what else do we got here?
	Uh World's Coolest Nerd.
	Shout out to Mo, aka Mark Hadey, aka the world's strongest ham.
	I almost said Visera, but I can't do you like that.
	Myron, I know you don't want to give away too much.
	Does a new studio have neighbors?
	No, actually.
	Not really.
	Um, it's um the new building kind of has it where like you got your own floor pretty much.
	Uh where you might share it with, I think like one or two other people, but like they're not on your side, if that makes sense.
	And uh we got the whole place paneled up, so they're not gonna hear anything.
	And guys, just so you know, um, we didn't uh I don't get complaints from neighbors.
	Uh the studio is extremely quiet.
	Like this place is literally covered in sound panels.
	Even when we play music in here, you can't hear it from outside because of all the panels that we have.
	A big reason why is because we're kicking out girls, and then the other one is haters would literally call the building and say, oh, that fresh a fit podcast films out of here.
	And they would complain.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Weirdos from other states would call in, guys, and make complaints on a building that they don't even live in.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Uh, what else do we got?
	All right.
	We have uh again, Myron.
	I'm down 15 pounds.
	I'm wondering if I have to continue to adjust my calorie intake as I lose weight.
	Also, big Mo thoughts of new releases is their new management.
	That's on the new releases.
	Yes, they're new management.
	Cut your calories down by 100 and keep go and just keep going.
	And then every time you hit a sticking point, take another hundred down.
	Uh what else we got, Mo?
	Do I have to cut my calories?
	I'm getting fat.
	Yes.
	Uh these sticks got dirtier skunkers than these gym showers.
	God damn.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	What?
	What are skunk?
	Colorado roughneck.
	I've never heard that term for a vagina, but okay.
	Phones are dirtier than most uh most everything.
	Just think about Mo scratching his ass and touching his phone.
	Okay.
	Uh Domgo, shout out to Myron Holding Frame last night.
	Angie Bills, Chris, Mo, and Mo and Mo, we love y'all.
	Thank you, bro.
	Hey, you know, put it fresh in there, man.
	Uh, top five comedians are Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, holy uh Corey Holcomb, Chris Rod, Bill Burr.
	I agree with some, yeah.
	Okay.
	Uh Department of Homeland and Securities.
	Holds and securities.
	Yeah, hoes and insecurities.
	It's funny, Myron.
	We shit on France.
	Historically, they've won if uh we if war can be won the most battles military, uh militarily in history above England and U.S., however, We're third place and only 244 years old, recently weak.
	Just want to say thanks for all the content, man.
	The grind is crazy, but the world needs a WMO WNG, and that's from B Creative, I think.
	Be creative.
	Okay.
	Thank you, bro.
	JR from Dallas, W Fed Reacts.
	Thanks, JR.
	Uh 60 Minute Man.
	My man my friends roast me for being 22 and wanting an 18-year-old normalized wants and younger.
	Yeah, bro.
	They're gonna do everything they can to shame you, but fuck them.
	Anything else?
	That is all right, cool.
	We're caught up.
	So uh let's go ahead and get into this JCS Reacts.
	Um, and uh we'll break it down with you guys, and uh Mo, this one's crazy if you haven't seen it already.
	I haven't.
	You haven't?
	Alright.
	Yeah, it's great.
	Yeah.
	Shout out to YC Ace, we miss him.
	Yeah, JCS man, you use you slacking, bro.
	What makes the case of Jennifer Pan unique among others in the true crime genre is the overabundance of raw footage freely available in the public domain.
	There is over eleven hours of material that not only recounts her entire life in meticulous detail, but gives us considerable insight into her psychopathological state.
	Jennifer herself will narrate her own story in this video, which is the reason the following lead up segment will be condensed.
	As a brief outline, is all that is needed before delving into the extraordinary mind of this individual.
	Jennifer was born in Markham, Ontario, where she was raised with her older brother in a middle class household.
	Her parents, Beek and Han, were originally from Vietnam, and their method of parenting was strict, very strict.
	What some might even class as authoritarian.
	Success and achievement from their children were seen as outright obligations, whether it be in academics or extracurricular activity.
	And some might argue these expectations took precedence over the well-being of the children themselves.
	Jennifer initially took the imposed pressure in her stride and put everything she had and uh guys, this is just indicative of immigrant parents in general.
	Uh, you know, I remember growing up, failure was not an option.
	My dad and my mom would always yell at me and say, We didn't come to this country for you to be a failure.
	If I was born here, I'd be a doctor, I'd be a lawyer, I'd be somebody.
	I used to get that that speech literally every day when I was a kid.
	If I came home with anything less than a A, that's what my parents would say.
	I remember I was like, you know, BC student, my parents were like, oh well, this is terrible.
	And then they always make me feel bad about it.
	So um this is just indicative of uh dealing with immigrant parents, and uh, you know, whether Vietnamese, Nigerian, um Indian, it doesn't matter, you're gonna get shit on if you don't bring good grades and you don't go hard in the paint, because immigrant parents feel as though they went through hell and thick water to get you into uh the country that you're typically in, whether it's United States, Canada, UK, etc.
	One of these first world countries that has way more opportunities than their homeland, and they will not accept failure.
	And rightfully so, man.
	I thank God that my parents were good parents and they forced me to not be dumb.
	Like it's not r uh to be honest with you, I think it's not just immigrant immigrants' parents, it's just uh just general guilt parents.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But emigrant parents like are more likely to be, you know, like that, and you know, dictatorish and um very authoritarian when it comes to how they raise their kids, etc.
	So um that's the thing about immigrant parents.
	And if you look, right, I think if I'm not mistaken, in the United States, like uh Nigerian families have the highest um average household income.
	Uh, and then I think Asians are right there behind them.
	So you know, that's why I kind of always laugh at people in you know, the black community that cry and say, Oh, bro, we're being held down, man.
	It's the white man holding us down.
	Why are the Nigerians successful then?
	They're black just like you.
	You know?
	Like, please explain to me how uh, you know, uh the yo yeah is out here making more money than you.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, what's going on here?
	Like, come on, man.
	Uh all right, what else do we got here, Mo?
	Let's go back to the clip.
	Shout out to all my immigrants out there, man.
	Shout out to all y'all.
	First world.
	Sorry, first generation.
	You good, you good.
	Gating.
	She had exceptional talent, and at one point was expected to compete in the winter Olympics.
	But she suffered a serious knee injury at the age of 14 and was told she could no longer compete.
	Her dreams were cut short.
	But if more concern was that her parents' expectations now had to be met through the more traditional route of education.
	And the issue was that Jennifer wasn't anywhere near as academically gifted as she was athletic.
	She was averaging a C minus when her parents wanted straight A's.
	So rather than communicate with them, she decided to meet their expectations under false pretenses and began faking her test results.
	This led to her faking her end of year report.
	Yo, uh, well, innovate I guess.
	...port cards, which eventually led to her faking a high school diploma, and then a university acceptance letter to study pharmacology.
	In the abstract world of her parents, Jennifer was on her way to a noble and well-paid career in medical healthcare, when in reality, she was a high school dropout living with her drug dealer boyfriend, whom she had been dating in secret for almost eight years.
	She was eventually found out in two thousand ten when her parents What?
	Yeah, I told you how this shit is crazy.
	This is perfect everything.
	Her high school diploma, her Toronto University acceptance.
	Damn, she was great.
	A drug dealer for eight years.
	Bruh.
	Holy.
	Alright.
	Where's RCMP when you need them?
	Alright, let's keep going.
	But he's fresh and fine.
	RCMP, by the way, guys, Royal Canadian Mountain Police.
	That is Canada's.
	Think of them as their Canada's FBI.
	I actually worked with them very closely.
	No offense to all my Canadians out there, but holy.
	Yo, you guys, bro, y'all country sucks.
	Like, bro.
	Yo, man.
	And here's the thing.
	I love Canadians.
	You guys are the friendliest people, some of the best people.
	Um, but the Canadian economy, the Canadian government, uh, the Canadian dollars power, Jason Trudeau, man.
	Bro, they can't do shit.
	Bro, what uh when I did this case with the RCMP, right?
	I had this um human smuggling case with them.
	Uh basically, long story short, it was a Sri Lankan human smuggling organization that was smuggling aliens uh in through the United States, destined for Toronto.
	Toronto actually has the biggest population of Sri Lankans in the world outside of Sri Lanka.
	And um they were coming in through the United States, so obviously we had a nexus to so did Canada.
	And I remember one of the primary targets in the case where there's where there's a press lease, by the way, for this guys.
	Um, and I and I've showed you guys it before.
	It was the last case I did before I left.
	One of the biggest arrests I made right before I left.
	Um Canada, RCMP, were like, yeah, we can't really prosecute.
	Uh US, can you guys do it?
	And I was like, what the fuck?
	So we gotta do all the work.
	So um we had to go and push for the prosecution and everything else like that.
	But yeah, if we had prosecuted them under Canadian law, not only would have it been very difficult, but the guy would have done like no time.
	So you guys they couldn't prosecute because of their law?
	Their laws are super weak.
	Wow, they're not they're not punitive like the United States.
	Oh, okay.
	They're not as punitive.
	So they have to ask you.
	Especially for laws that like have to do with like immigration, like illegally bringing people in and stuff like that.
	Their laws are super lax.
	Canada has some of the um laxest immigration laws of any of the first world countries.
	That's why so many refugees, asylum, etc.
	go to Canada over the United States.
	Well, they want people though.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That country is empty.
	Yeah, but yeah, Canada, man, is holy shit, man.
	I'll I love Canadians, but guys, you your guys come well, I mean, it's obvious, bro.
	You know how many Canadians illegally live here in Miami?
	Dude, it is crazy how many of them come here for work, and they don't they they don't want to leave, or they uh do a business here illegally, or they overstayed their or overstay their um visa waiver.
	Like, yo, it's crazy.
	Like, there's not that many opportunities in Canada.
	Yeah.
	Or worse yet, they're they come here just to work because they're the money here is worth more.
	So they'll take a pay cut, come here, and then send that money back.
	So it's like, bro.
	Yeah.
	Well, maybe they may money and stay later.
	Yeah.
	So, um, so yeah, man, I I love Canadians, but guys, your guy's country is fucked.
	It's it's I would say it's almost bad as the UK.
	UK, they they put you in jail for um for speech.
	Wow.
	So they don't have First Amendment.
	Nah, they don't.
	They don't.
	Canada doesn't either.
	That's why Jordan Peterson went viral.
	Because he don't he he didn't want to use uh pronouns.
	Oh, okay.
	That's originally what got him popular was uh not using pronouns.
	And uh and it was not at the time, like Canada has some very uh unclear laws when it comes to uh freedom of speech, but they don't have it really.
	What were you gonna say, Mo?
	I was gonna say woke, but yeah, yeah, Canada's more woke than we are, for sure.
	Yeah, like their laws are like extremely like woke.
	Yeah, Canada's more woke than we are.
	But here's the thing, there's a lot of conservative Canadians too.
	It's just that they don't have a voice like that.
	But there's a lot of them.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah, bro.
	Where are the parties in Canada?
	Oh, damn.
	Someone in the chat, man, tell me what your guy.
	I I don't know if they have like them.
	I don't think they have a Republican and a Democrat Party like we do.
	That's why I'm asking.
	Whether they have that.
	Yeah, they have something different.
	I know they call their prosecutors crowns.
	Crowns?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's what they call their prosecutors.
	Um yeah, uh, we'll see it in the chat.
	Someone's gonna put in the chat, but shout out to all my Canadians, bro.
	We are gonna go to Canada.
	Even though I made all those comments.
	Uh if I get arrested, you guys know why.
	But uh, we are gonna go to Canada and do a meetup out there, because yo, we got a huge support uh network out there in Canada, but god damn, I feel sorry for y'all, bro.
	In Canada.
	And my British people too.
	I love y'all too.
	Um, I still feel sorry for you guys too, because your guys' government sucks as well.
	I mean, all the first world countries governments are being terrible now or are be you know, kind of going to the shitter.
	But god damn, like like UK, like the government sending letters saying, hey, cancel this person off rumble?
	That's wild.
	So they're saying that it's liberal socialist conservative NPD, which would be like seen as socialists.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Conservative, communist, green block.
	Kubika, cubicways, oh, like the dumb hoe for yesterday.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's go back to the doc.
	...discovered she had been living a double life and was then given an ultimatum.
	At twenty-four years old, she had to choose between one of two options.
	Option one was that she had to live at home under a strict regime, cease all contact with her boyfriend, and only leave the house to go back to school and pursue an education.
	Option two is that she could do whatever she wanted, but she would then be disowned from her family.
	She could never return home, and all financial support would cease immediately.
	Jennifer evidently decided neither option would suffice, so she created option number three.
	She had her boyfriend arrange a mock home invasion where three of his acquaintances would enter the pan household and stage a robbery gone wrong.
	The two instructions were to first ransack the home and then murder the parent.
	Alright, so the three knaves, could you take the c the the CC off real quick?
	The three names, guys.
	So Daniel Wong.
	Stereotyping.
	He uh went ahead and recruited these three guys.
	David Mulvignam.
	Oh, that dude is Sri Lankan.
	Let me look it up.
	Yeah, that last name is definitely Sri Lankan.
	Yep.
	And then uh Eric Cardi and then Lenford Crawford.
	So two black dudes and a Sri Lankan.
	AKN Indian nigga.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, Sri Lankan.
	Yeah, Milvegnum, yeah.
	Bro, I've read so many Sri Lankan names, bro.
	I can like it's I'm scarred.
	Uh from the their last names.
	They they're so hard to pronounce.
	I'm just like, oh my god, I've because I had to interview like 50 witnesses.
	And they all had them crazy ass last names.
	And I was like, at some point, I was like, man, I'll just I wouldn't even I'm just like I just I just use like the first letter their last name.
	Alright, we're gonna go talk to T. Last name was like the Vignam or some shit like that.
	Alright, now we're gonna talk to Navignum.
	Okay, now we're gonna go talk to uh Avignum, okay.
	And then now, you know, it's just like bro, fuck it.
	Oh my god to all my Canadians out there.
	You guys know um to Canada, a lot of Sri Lankans, especially Toronto, huge Sri Lankan population, man.
	Uh let's keep going, Mo.
	The planned date was Monday, the 8th of November, with the scheduled time being roughly 11 p.m.
	Jennifer would unlock the front door, and three figures were caught on a neighbor's surveillance camera entering the home at 11.05.
	They were then seen running out just under 18 minutes later.
	It was at that exact time, 911 received a call from the same household.
	Where are you ma'am?
	How am I having you?
	Please just don't go.
	I don't want my parents on.
	Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.
	Calm down.
	What's up?
	Some people broke into our house and they just chose all his money.
	Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.
	Okay, ma'am, ma'am.
	Where are you?
	What?
	Avenue.
	Avenue Road.
	Yes.
	Can you spell the name for me please?
	Dad?
	Good Lord, I'm going to call you!
	Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am!
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Damn, I need clear Avenue Road.
	I don't hear me please.
	Oh my god.
	I don't know what's happening.
	I'm tired of there.
	Beak Pan was shot twice.
	Once in the neck and once in the head.
	She was killed immediately.
	The father Han was also shot twice.
	Once in the shoulder and once in the face.
	He astonishingly survived and was put into an induced coma once he arrived at the hospital.
	Jennifer was taken to the same hospital as a precaution, but was soon cleared of injury.
	She sat by her father's bedside for roughly three hours before she was taken to the Markham police station to give a statement as a witness.
	I want to go through a form with you.
	It may seem kind of you know why you're doing this, but um this is a it's it's like you're you're swearing to tell the truth about what you're gonna talk to me about, and it's also gonna explain to you the um the penalties for not telling the truth.
	I don't expect you uh to help me, but for a homicide investigation, anyone who's very close to the investigation, we do this with.
	Okay, so this isn't suspecting that you're not gonna tell the truth.
	This is more of a feature that you understand the importance of telling the complete truth.
	Jennifer is not a suspect at this moment.
	She is only giving a voluntary statement under oath.
	She has not read her right to silence, but instead informed of her rights as a witness.
	She is basically told that fabricating evidence with the intent to mislead is an offense.
	After reading the notification off paper, the detective gives Jennifer a more human explanation of the instruction.
	What I've just explained to you is you're here voluntarily to help us.
	That you don't have to talk to us if you don't want to, but the importance of talking to us and if you're talking to us, the importance of telling the truth.
	And if you don't tell the truth, there's criminal consequences for not telling the truth.
	That's all that all that stuff had to deal with.
	Okay.
	The investigator then leaves to get the commissioner of oaths, which is for the purpose of swearing in the witness, but he first brings in a box of cleanings.
	This is universally recognized as getting startled.
	Yet the official term in neurophysiology is the startle reflex via auditory stimulus.
	Hyper arousal from a traumatic event can often exaggerate this response in a manner similar to how Jennifer reacted to the sound of the door.
	I'm a commissioner both European police.
	I'm here so you can give a truthful statement, either by solemn affirmation or swearing on the Bible.
	Which do you prefer?
	Swearing on the Bible.
	What the pause.
	She's not she this chicken uh I don't even think she is she Christian.
	She ain't Christian.
	I don't think he it matters.
	Yeah, but if like you don't have if you're like Muslim, you're not gonna care about swearing on the Bible.
	They're gonna make you swear on the Quran.
	Probably.
	Nah.
	Would they?
	I guess.
	They're gonna they're gonna be like, say wallahi.
	Yeah, they probably will, yeah.
	Uh that's weird, because like if you don't if you don't identify that religion, I don't see I mean hell, even if you're a Christian, you might still lie.
	Obviously.
	Uh swear through like an affirmation or something like that, I think.
	Solemnly swear.
	Solemnly swear.
	So I'm yeah, that's probably the other way.
	Interesting.
	Very, very interesting.
	Guys, do me a favor, by the way, we got uh 900 plus y'all watching over on YouTube and another like uh twelve or thirteen hundred watching on Rumble.
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	So um cool.
	You know, I I don't think that's like a Christian thing because you cannot swear on the name of God.
	Um if you're a Christian.
	Oh, you can't.
	Okay.
	No, you can't.
	Alright.
	Uh are are you uh are you the same it's gonna be an ignorant question.
	Are you the same type of Christian that freshes?
	Same thing, right?
	I don't know what fresh is.
	I just I asked you the other day because I don't know I don't know why he is.
	Like I I don't know why he's praying to I know he doesn't believe in like the the saints and all that other stuff.
	He's not a Catholic.
	He doesn't believe in the like uh no.
	Maybe closest to non-denomination is what we call it.
	It's kind of like a general um Christian.
	Okay.
	That's what I think it is.
	And I know that's what I am.
	I know another close a lot of Haitians are like Baptists, but um But I consider myself non-denomination Christian.
	Christian, so was there between a Baptist and a Christian?
	Uh there's a small little difference, but um They're different kind of care Christians.
	There's a ton.
	But like there is like a general Well, what about man, y'all got so many different types, bro?
	Baptists, uh what's the other one?
	Uh Jehovah Witness.
	Yeah.
	Uh Uh seven day adventists.
	Oh.
	Basically they only go to church like they go to church on Saturdays.
	Yeah.
	That's like almost like you is boys.
	Oh man.
	Alright.
	So low.
	But those are like the bells is going off.
	I will say those are like very like r uh radical Christians.
	Gotcha.
	Alright, uh, let's uh let's keep going.
	Alright.
	Jennifer Pan swear that the evidence you shall give on this investigation shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God.
	I do.
	Once Jennifer is sworn in, the lead investigator returns to collect the statement.
	Now I want you to sort of take yourself back to earlier on today.
	And uh tell me about your day.
	Okay, start at any point in time.
	Where wherever you feel comfortable, and then we're gonna move we're gonna move forward, okay?
	Um yesterday, probably around nine o'clock in the morning.
	Nine thirty.
	Um my mother uh she woke me up and she told me that she was going to go into visit my grandfather.
	Throughout the day, Jennifer explains that she practiced piano, studied piano history, talked on the phone with her friends, and had dinner with her parents.
	Her mother left for line dancing at 8 p.m. and returned home at about 9 30.
	At which time Jennifer was alone in her room watching TV, ready to go to sleep.
	And then suddenly I just heard my mom calling for my dad to come down, and that's when I lowered the volume on my TV, and I could hear the voices weren't any voices I was very familiar with.
	And so I was scared and I couldn't move.
	I just sat in my room for a while.
	And then I thought I heard them all like leave the top floor and I peered out of my bedroom door.
	And a guy was there and he came at me and had string in his hands and tied my arms back and said, I have a gun behind your back.
	Do what I say if you do what I say then I don't know what you are.
	There's an actual uh Wikipedia page for this girl.
	She's 37 now.
	And um these happened in 2010.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, she's older than me.
	What because she was 24 in 2010.
	Yeah, she was born in 1986.
	Damn.
	Four years older.
	37, yeah.
	And uh she's uh she's sentenced to live life imprisonment with the possibility of parole after the game.
	She was born what, 1986?
	86, yeah.
	Is that the year Whitesnake came out with uh Here I go again on my own Don?
	Go down the only road out of known.
	Is that when it came out?
	I love how you grabbed the mic.
	Hey man, I had to sing it.
	These are good rocal mics.
	I don't know the side.
	Man, these are actually one of the best in um in the Myra Jackson coming out soon.
	You gonna see me moonwalking in this bitch?
	You gotta think about my singing skills.
	Oh man, we gotta do Michael Jackson.
	Yeah, we will do Michael Jackson.
	Uh let me see here.
	I'm gonna look up uh Whitesnake uh when that shit came out.
	Oh, in May 2023, the court of appeal for Ontario ordered our retrial for Penn and her conspirators on the first degree murder charge, but upheld the attempted murder conviction.
	That's crazy.
	This that was this year.
	This year.
	Mm-hmm.
	Alright.
	Crazy.
	Is she is she granted that or is she granted anything?
	What?
	Is she granted anything?
	Like, is the judge giving her like the appeal or something, or maybe a retrial is No.
	Like is she allowed it?
	I I think no, because she's she's got the possibility of parole after 25 years, and she got convicted in 2010.
	So yeah.
	I think I know.
	Uh here I go again was released in 1982.
	My bad.
	Ah, that was off.
	I got I got came out earlier.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I got too excited for it.
	That's still in the 80s.
	It's still the 80s, but like I mean bitches born in 86.
	I'm trying to think.
	What was the top song in 1986?
	And I just remembered 37, bro?
	She's old as hell, yeah, bro.
	Oh, was she in 2010 then?
	Uh she was uh 24.
	Man, and I thought she was like 16.
	She looks so young.
	Yeah, she looks like a kid, right?
	Yeah, she does.
	Oh, walk this way.
	Run this run DMC with uh So What that's what Yeah This bitch's song is Kill this way.
	Oh shit.
	Alright, let's keep going.
	Money, show me where your money is.
	My mom kept trying to get up, and they kept telling her to sit down.
	And so I didn't want her to get hurt.
	I told her mom to sit down.
	They were trying to find her wallet, but she her English thinker, so she kept saying first.
	They kept pushing her down onto the chair.
	Okay.
	Take your time.
	Take your time.
	All this is very important, so take it to it.
	Jennifer's non-verbal communication up to this point has made sense.
	And the reflection of her mother's last moments seems to push her over the edge.
	It could be assumed the detective still considers Jennifer a victim at this moment.
	But in the next moment, he will start becoming suspicious.
	They kept all the lights up on the main floor.
	The only time there was light was when they opened the fridge door to see if they could find where my mom's purse was.
	Take yourself back to a moment in your life when you have been overwhelmingly upset about something.
	And at the same time were trying to explain to someone why you were upset.
	You wouldn't quietly and reservedly convey the events.
	You would likely blurt them out in a forceful and disordered manner.
	Your sole focus would be on processing your thoughts and conveying them into speech.
	The emotional turbulence of severe hysteria and grief makes it very difficult to convey thought into actual dialogue.
	And the simple wording of a sentence becomes very challenging.
	One of the the gentlemen asked my father if he had money in his wallet and where his wallet was.
	So they took me from that was next to the stairwell.
	They took me up the stairway.
	I mean, I was no, she referred to people that rob their dad as gentlemen.
	I would argue that's the opposite of gentlemen.
	That's sweet.
	That's Ruffman.
	And it's weird that you're calling these people gentlemen.
	So I have to give myself the tomatoes and tomatoes.
	Thanks.
	Falling fresh for a second.
	I don't know how he stands it.
	I'm like, ah, damn, that was bad.
	Yeah, so it's okay.
	I give myself the L as well.
	You know what we need sometimes when Fresh sells those badass jokes?
	You know that fucking hook?
	Back in like the old Loo's cartoons.
	They just take the hook and you daddy off stage.
	And Apollo tomatoes.
	We need some shit.
	Yeah, we do some shit like that where Fresh says a bad joke and just like whoop.
	Boom.
	Goes into the shadow roll.
	There it is.
	There it is.
	Alright.
	Let's go ahead.
	It was like I'm like French, bro.
	That's funny.
	Show them where my father's wallet was, but I'm I didn't know.
	They had to turn the room upside down.
	I didn't know where his pants were at that time.
	The intruders retrieve 1100 from the master bedroom and then tie Jennifer to the upstairs banister.
	Next thing I know, oh, I think I heard my parents going down the stairs.
	And my mom was asking them for me to come with them.
	They wouldn't let me come with them.
	After it's the last thing I for them say was you lied.
	You lied to us.
	You lied to us.
	And then I heard two pops.
	My mom screamed.
	I yelled out for her.
	And a couple more pops.
	Take your time.
	Take your time.
	Yo, it's crazy how she's putting on this act right now.
	Now you can go, Mo.
	I'm just like shocked that like, look at how she's like literally acting.
	And if they did one more before they left, and then we're going to go back to the city.
	I like to think.
	I like you have to.
	Because GCS gave us like an introduction of the case, and they basically told us everything, like what happened.
	But if you don't know anything about this case, how would you think you would buy it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	How would you take this interrogation?
	And him as the detective, right?
	He's not gonna sit there and be like, hmm, I wonder if she's a like he's gonna like obviously it's a young girl, her parents just got killed.
	You're not gonna sit there.
	You're trying your best to actually not make them feel like a perpetrator.
	You want them, hey, you're a victim.
	I'm interviewing this way.
	I build rapport.
	Yeah, you want to build rapport, get the story out.
	But this woman is literally just being an actor on some demon time, bro.
	Like, what the hell's going on here?
	So yeah, the fact that she could do this uh is wild.
	Yeah, I'm about to give her a Grammy for that performance.
	Yeah, bro.
	That bitch is like uh Emma Gabby.
	The girl that lied on uh the Tate Brothers?
	Like, god damn, bro.
	Oh god.
	Shh.
	Messaging her friend on WhatsApp, oh we're gonna be on Netflix and Hulu and shit.
	Like, what the hell, bro?
	It's the acious.
	I'm just kidding.
	Angie's the real racist.
	I thought I've been telling y'all, man.
	Someone in the chat's just saying.
	They're like, who's the racist?
	The person who wears the outfit or the person who sold the outfit?
	Sir, you're asking the right goddamn questions.
	The person that sells the outfit is the real racist.
	If y'all heard what the hell she'd be saying off camera, Yaddiggs would really It's not me.
	It's actually her.
	It's core.
	It's called Dark Humor.
	Oh, now you know Stark Humor.
	Now's dark humor.
	Let's talk about Cubans, Angie.
	You got what do you gotta say about Cubans?
	Ooh!
	uh uh we can't do that we're on YouTube we're on YouTube hit the elevator by the way yeah alright We don't got that capability on this stream.
	But goddamn.
	Uh yo.
	I'm using it.
	No, you weren't.
	I was just I remember I was like, oh my, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I got I got a hella love for the Cubans.
	She was like Oh my damn!
	I was like, no!
	What's the mechanic?
	Mechanics a Cuban.
	Instant racism.
	Instant insults were say that I will not be able to do it.
	Like the boys.
	All right, let's go back to the goddamn thing before you get canceled.
	Shout out to the cubits, man.
	She won't love him.
	Yeah.
	Shout out to the Cubans, man.
	I love Cubans.
	I do wrong guy.
	I denounce Angie.
	Oh my god, my dad is watching this.
	He probably agrees with you though.
	He erases too.
	Let's keep going.
	Princeton is funny.
	And then they ran up the door.
	And I think what they were out the door.
	I heard my dad go up the stairs, and at that point.
	Jennifer has clearly gotten her story straight beforehand.
	Yet in the next moment, appears to realize how unusual it is that she was able to make a phone call when her hands were tied behind her back to a banister.
	She hesitates, stutters, and even looks to the detective for approval twice before she quickly moves on.
	I had my phone in my po in my on me behind me.
	Y'all see that?
	She's seeking approval.
	On me behind me.
	So when I when I when they I thought that they had heard the I'll leave, and my dad ran up the stairs.
	I whipped up the phone and it called and one went.
	But I still hadn't heard anything from my mom, and all I could hear was my dad running on the street.
	moaning sounds.
	The detective then breaks the event down into components and has Jennifer go through each moment in more detail.
	The first of which is the appearance of the intruders.
	Jennifer now describes the one who appeared to be in charge.
	The only thing I can remember was him was he had dreadlocks.
	So are you it can you describe his race to me?
	Did it was his head covered?
	Was his face covered?
	Just that his dredge blocks were like kind of like flopping all over the place.
	Oh my god!
	See his face, and they kept the lights dark as much as much as possible.
	Did you see the gun?
	Oh, I saw the top part of the gun.
	What did it look like?
	Um kind of black.
	Yeah.
	Do you know where the other guys involved in this are?
	I know one stayed with my parents downstairs.
	Okay.
	Um the other one.
	I'm not at that point in time.
	I was more focused on him, like he was seeing me and he was coming after me.
	So you're saying there's three for sure.
	Yeah.
	That's all you saw a total of three at one time.
	You saw three people together.
	Yes, when I went downstairs, I saw three shadows.
	She details the appearances of the other two assailants, whom she asserts were also black males.
	The detective then brings her back to the one in charge.
	Now the first guy who spoke to you.
	What kind of did he have any accent?
	Nothing.
	Was it clear English?
	English.
	Unbroken.
	Unbroken.
	No accent.
	From the terms he used, I didn't get to pick up an accent, no.
	Short phrases.
	He sounded can he sounded Canadian.
	I would say yes, he was born here.
	He was born here.
	She asserts that the second intruder didn't speak, while the third had a Caribbean accent.
	She then goes on to say she was taken downstairs for a brief moment and saw her parents under guard in the living room.
	Her father was asked Where his wallet was, and he told them it was in the master bedroom.
	Jennifer was then taken back upstairs alone with two of the assailants to help them find it.
	They don't find the wallet, but instead retrieve a pile of cash from inside the nightstand.
	Jennifer was then tied to the upstairs banister and left alone as the intruders went back down.
	And the next thing I can hear are them telling my parents to move to the basement.
	Okay.
	And I'm asking them, why were you going?
	And my mom's yelling to me.
	I want my daughter.
	Why can't my daughter come too?
	I want my daughter.
	Jennifer then hears one of the intruders yell, you lied to us.
	Who do you hear yelling you lied to us?
	Or to that three.
	Number three.
	To my I'm assuming it's to my father.
	Because he was the one asking for the wallet.
	Now you hear this commotion downstairs.
	You said you heard two pops.
	And you heard who scream?
	Your mom.
	And what was she screaming?
	Do you remember?
	Cry yell, so it was just made the first round or pop pop, and they had they had said, okay, that's enough.
	Let's go.
	Who said that?
	Whose voice is that?
	Number one.
	Okay.
	And then I heard one more after that.
	And they're like, that's enough.
	Let's go.
	Okay.
	And again, that's number one.
	Yes.
	So what do you hear next after you hear the scrambling?
	They're gone.
	Because you're hearing no more.
	I gather that's how you assume they're gone is because you don't hear it.
	Then you hear your dad.
	I I reach for my phone.
	Okay.
	And you call 911.
	Okay.
	When your father exits, you hear the door open.
	Because you hear your daughter, and then you then I can hear like the outside noises.
	This RoboR.
	Well, which one?
	Oh.
	When we read it, we'll that'll be funny.
	Like the wind coming in, and I just hear my dad uh I think he's you think that he's sustaining some kind of injury because he's not you can't understand what he's saying.
	Okay.
	What about do you hear can you hear your mom?
	Okay.
	Where did your dad go?
	Do you know where you never see your dad again until when we're at the hospital?
	I think that's what you said, right?
	I saw him when he was on the gritty.
	Is there any reason to suspect or anything that's happened in the recent weeks leading up that would have you guys be a target of some type of incident like this?
	You live a straightforward, kind of almost routine life.
	Whenever Jennifer smiles, it takes her a couple seconds to realize she's not exhibiting the correct behavior, and she then snaps back into her solemn stare.
	What in your opinion would cause people to target your house to think there was a large quantity of money?
	I'm not sure.
	Now you say your mom drives Alexis.
	It could be because of the aesthetics, yes.
	What about your dad?
	He drives a Mercedes and he loves that baby.
	Is that right?
	The questions end here, and the detective leaves the room for half an hour to double check if he needs any more information.
	After 15 minutes of Jennifer waiting alone, we're gifted with another performance of a startle reflex.
	Only this time it's slightly less convincing.
	He drives a Mercedes and he loves that baby.
	What?
	If investigators were certain of Jennifer's innocence, this would have been the first and last time she would have been questioned in such a manner.
	Police are extremely careful in how they involve victims in investigations as to not cause further unnecessary trauma.
	But on this particular occasion, it would come as no surprise that Jennifer's psychological well-being was of less concern.
	She was officially still a victim and witness, but unofficially a leading suspect.
	She was called back in to give another statement just two days later at 9 a.m.
	She was told the reason was to collect more details, but you'll notice that the line of questioning and the answers they attain have little to no use for anything outside of Jennifer's culpability.
	The actual reason for this second statement is to collect further information to use against her at a later stage.
	In this interview alone, they already start the process of cross-examination and start to catch her out in previous lies.
	Jennifer is still a witness at this moment, and the exchange is void of any direct confrontation.
	Yet she is still put under a modest amount of pressure, and the holes in her story start to become ever more apparent.
	so they're catching on early yep they're already catching yeah because the things are don't add up and remember the whole phone thing is very confusing for them Wait, you were tied up, but how'd you get a hold of your phone to call 911?
	This doesn't make sense.
	Yeah.
	She didn't think that true.
	Like she didn't come up with like an after story.
	You know, after the fact after the killers.
	Dumbass.
	Ancient.
	I'm sorry.
	Wait, what the Yousogany.
	I'm just gonna Yo, um, you give God She's racist as a ass.
	God damn.
	Take that first interview that we had, which was, you know, hours after what had transpired.
	Put it aside.
	It's almost like we've never spoken before.
	Okay?
	So we're starting afresh.
	We're starting from new.
	That way you're not gonna say, I think I already told him that.
	Don't worry about what you've already told me.
	Do you, Jennifer Penn, swear, declare that the evidence that you give in this investigation shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to help you God?
	Yes.
	We're gonna see if we've learned or if you've remembered anything else.
	And there's some questions with respect to that uh statement that I'm gonna ask you about.
	Okay, but I'm gonna let you start again, and and let's let's move forward from any time in that day where you want to start, if it's the time you woke up, or if it's the time that your first interaction, it's your choice.
	Okay, I'm just I'm very nervous, and I'm gonna be able to do that.
	Why are you let's why are you why are you nervous?
	Tell me about why you're nervous.
	Because I don't want to say the wrong thing.
	Oh, you so that day was a lot.
	You're right.
	And I've been scattered, and so bits and pieces are here and some pieces aren't here, and I'm just So I want you to sit back in your chair.
	Okay, just sit back in your chair, take a deep breath.
	Okay?
	Close your eyes.
	Just follow my line.
	Just sit back in the chair for a second, sit back, relax.
	The best she can.
	Close your eyes.
	And just breathe for a minute.
	Okay?
	The most curious detail you've probably come to notice is this.
	It's known as a self-pacifying gesture.
	A person who does this is most often uncomfortable and sometimes fearful of what lies ahead.
	It's a coping mechanism to dissipate stress and afford self-assurance.
	What I can remember is when I woke up.
	She practices on the piano, studies piano history, plays games on her phone, and speaks with her friends on Facebook during the morning hours.
	Her mom leaves to visit her grandfather at around noon and returns at 3 p.m. to prepare dinner.
	Her father comes home at around 4 30 from work, and dinner is served one hour later.
	Her mother leaves for line dancing at seven, then returns at 9 30.
	Jennifer at this point is in bed talking with her friend on the phone, and her father is in the computer room.
	She then hears her mother loudly call out to her father.
	What is she saying?
	She's calling him by his name and to come down.
	So give us verbatim what do you hear her saying?
	Invinimi.
	She's like, Hanai.
	Some day.
	She's clearly aware that she has to appear mournful over the subject matter and sensibly draws out this emotion at the correct moments.
	Yet what's fascinating is how she's unable to maintain this emotion when inquired over the same elements.
	In this very moment, she appears completely grief-stricken.
	But when the investigator inquires further, this supposed grief rapidly dissipates.
	It's extremely difficult to convincingly act out an emotion while evaluating a question.
	It requires two completely different parts of the brain, which is why most people can only do one of these things at a time.
	This is exactly what you see in the next moment, and continuously throughout this interview.
	Uh this is my father's name, Han.
	Uh come down here.
	Does she say anything else associated with that?
	I can't hear clearly because like I was on the phone and the TV was on, but that's what I heard.
	Is she yelling?
	Or is it uh at normal?
	It's a loud, it's a she's not yelling, but it's a loud tone.
	Okay.
	She then hangs up the phone with her friend once she hears the commotion.
	As I'm hanging up the phone with him, I hear footsteps going up the stairs.
	Okay.
	But they're not they're heavier footsteps than uh what is to be expected from my parents.
	Okay.
	Jennifer hears unfamiliar voices, so she opens her door to investigate.
	She has spoken for two minutes up to this point without being interrupted, and once again manages to build up her emotion to correlate with a supposedly terrifying event.
	Yet as soon as the detective interjects with a question, we once again see this emotion dissipate.
	I peered out, and there was a person in the my what would have been my brother's room.
	And where's your brother's room located?
	Uh, just a little bit down the like I could see my from my doorway to his doorway, just a little bit down the hall.
	Okay.
	The first intruder then robs Jennifer at gunpoint before taking her to the ground floor, where she then sees her parents sitting next to each other.
	From where I was standing, my father was sitting on the right, and my mother was sitting on the left.
	Sitting where?
	On a couch.
	On our couch.
	Sitting on the couch.
	Are they looking out towards you?
	No, their backs are towards me.
	Okay.
	And you're now on the ground level.
	Are you on the floor?
	Or on the sitting?
	I'm sitting on the floor.
	Alright, Where are your hands?
	They had tied my hands.
	So let's go.
	Let's go back up to the stairs.
	Remember, we said her emotional display in seeing her parents in distress gradually faded after each interjection.
	But you'll now see it completely cease altogether once she realizes that she made her first mistake.
	Everything she had said up to this point correlated with her initial statement.
	But she had just forgot to mention that she was first tied up before being taken downstairs.
	And only brought it up when reminded by the detective.
	Take the other statement and whatever we've said before.
	She didn't say she was tied up earlier.
	She completely forgot to mention it and seems to be trying to convince the detective otherwise.
	It's a moment of slight panic, which becomes far more pronounced when you compare it to her supposed grief-stricken recollection five seconds earlier.
	The detective doesn't challenge this, as it can be used against her at a much later stage.
	And the main objective at this point is to collect as much conflicting information as possible.
	Okay, then we must let's let's get back to that area.
	I think you might have touched on it.
	I'm not sure where the string comes from.
	But he had the string.
	Okay.
	And he after I gave him my money, that's when he tied my hands.
	She is then taken downstairs where she sees her mother being interrogated by the second assailant over the whereabouts of the cash.
	According to her first statement, the second assailant never said a word the entire time.
	He had pushed her back onto the couch.
	So pushed her.
	Number two.
	Okay.
	And she she kept saying, Where's my purse?
	Where's my purse?
	And I kept telling her to sit down, and I didn't want my mom to get hurt.
	The acting, man.
	This is crazy.
	How many times does she get up and get pushed back down?
	I'd say she got up twice.
	Has number two uttered a word at this point in time?
	I can't remember hearing him.
	Okay.
	So we're just correcting what you said earlier because you said earlier that it was number two who was asking where the purse is, what are the purse is, and now you've said now it's number one guy who would initially.
	No, no, no.
	It's all a purpose, but the purpose here is clarifying what you're saying.
	So number one.
	Number one is the one who's doing the talking about the city.
	I don't want to make mess up my face on your dad's wall.
	Okay.
	Jennifer continues to make contradictions and is forced to correct herself multiple times after she notices the puzzled gaze from the detective.
	He inquires over the appearance of assailant number two, who is wearing a hoodie according to the first statement.
	Do you get a good look at number two now of what he's wearing?
	All I could tell was he had a vest and his face was like a long oval face.
	No, hoodie.
	Okay.
	Uh dark hoodie.
	Okay.
	Did did you see them recover anything inside your mom and dad's room?
	I did not see anything, no.
	Are you sure?
	Because uh we went when we spoke the last time, there was some mention of some other money that went missing.
	I believe when they were looking for my father's wallet, they had opened the drawer.
	And there was uh it was in an envelope.
	What drawer would that have been in?
	On my on the if you're in the at the door where I was standing on the left side, uh bedside table.
	Whose side of the bed is it?
	That's my mother's side of the bed.
	Okay.
	More than likely a total coincidence.
	Yet she almost appears to be praying that she gave the correct response.
	Fortunately for her, she was correct on this occasion.
	And approximately how much money I'm not sure how much she took out for our our trip.
	But I can only I can only estimate about a few hundred dollars.
	Few hundred, because at the time last time you told me, you were pretty adamant about about eleven hundred dollars.
	So I'm curious to know how you're talking about.
	And I've always said this.
	The good thing about catch about criminals and them lying is they never lie once.
	You can never only tell one lie.
	You have to tell a multitude of lies to continue to cover up for a prior lies made.
	So um what he's doing now is he's just getting her to kind of trip over her own words, and you guys are seeing uh, you know, a flurry of emotion where she cries at one second, then she tries to rationalize it, give us uh answer here on another second.
	Um she's trying to remember what she had said in other interviews so she can make it um you know stick.
	So she's disheveled and all over the place, which is exactly what you want.
	Yeah, no, frontally for her, the investigators rewatch her interview before like before they brought her in the second time, yeah.
	Over and over, so it's a nail for her for not remembering everything and every detail that she said the first time.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	That's how I'd be catching these girls on the podcast when they say the stupid shit that they say.
	Oh, because you would write that.
	Yeah, I'll write it down and I'll be listening very closely.
	So um that that's that's how you catch liars, guys.
	Um that's why girls in a pot, like I'll literally like just listen to what they say, Whatever.
	Okay, she said this, and then bam, I'll catch up with a uh you know, a conflict later, and they're like, oh no, I never said yes, you did.
	Yes, you fucking did, bitch.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	Uh the cat.
	Let's keep going.
	That's a this is a really good agent though.
	Yeah.
	Oh, this guy, uh the detective.
	Yeah.
	Um, although I'm kind of not surprised.
	Well, he's gotta have his T. You gotta keep in mind.
	He's gotta have his T's and his eyes crowd cross, uh T's crossed and I dotted because this is the victim's daughter.
	And you know, he's about to make a very serious accusation, you know.
	Think about it from a press perspective.
	If the police make an arrest on the victim's daughter, they better be sure it's correct.
	Because if you're not, bro, you about to get sued out the wooza.
	So he's, you know, he they they got an inkling now that she might be involved, but they don't know for sure.
	That's why they're kind of letting her retell the story.
	Because they know, okay.
	She clearly didn't kill them.
	There were other people there who were these other people, so we need to kind of talk to her again.
	Yeah, but as soon as they find like a little slip of uh from her part, they're just gonna know why you know.
	But no, but the reason why I'm saying like they're being so soft in this in this like interview with her, kind of where they're like just telling her to tell the story again, etc.
	is because they know that she didn't act alone.
	Yeah, so they're like, all right, we have to we have to kind of still keep the gl kid gloves on because there's other conspirators here.
	Yeah, but now we think that she's involved with these other conspirators.
	So that's why he's kind of still I know some of you guys are child, like, why does it just say you lying, bitch, blah blah?
	It's because he wants to identify who the other people are.
	Yeah.
	She couldn't do this alone, obviously.
	This reminds me of Casey Anthony.
	Yeah.
	She was also lacking remorse.
	Crazy ass chick, bro.
	Yeah, Casey Anthony, yeah, killing her kid.
	I'm I'm not surprised he's able to catch someone scheming with.
	Casey Anthony, that one was a frustrating one.
	Her ridiculous lies to the police.
	Her and the other girl, uh suitcase chick.
	That one was frustrating too watching.
	I feel like I was doing a friend of it podcast.
	Dalio de Polito 2.
	Remember?
	Who?
	Dali de Polito, they were.
	Oh, yeah, she's crazy too.
	If you guys want to get a headache like I do when I do the podcast, watch those episodes and watch the police interview these women, bro.
	Literally delusional.
	Oh, Jody Arias was a good one.
	Yeah, she's crazy, bro.
	We covered all those women.
	Dude, could you imagine interviewing them on the panel?
	Bro, oh, I didn't do it.
	We got you, we got you on a picture.
	We got you all photograph.
	Oh.
	That's not me.
	Yeah, it is.
	Like, what the fuck?
	Oh my god.
	He was like, What do you keep lying?
	I need to view her.
	Oh, the interview, yeah.
	He got tired of her.
	It's like, well, you yeah.
	All right, let's keep going.
	And plus uh I'm not shocked that uh he he's catching on to the scheming because I saw that little balding uh uh balding hand.
	Oh scary to have them on the pile to be honest with you, Mark.
	You know what I mean?
	Nah, he's not one of them, boys.
	Oh I doubt it.
	Yeah.
	I was looking at the the cause uh the the balding spot.
	No, oh, where it's located.
	I see what you're saying.
	Yeah, that's just to make it going bald, bro.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	For men you always get the male pattern ball and this starts at the crown a lot of times.
	But I know what you mean.
	All right.
	I believe because we were at the border, we and we stopped at the duty free.
	My mother was deciding whether to use her US currency or her US currency or her Canadian currency.
	So it was at that time you remember hearing $1,100?
	And that's what is that the inference you're saying?
	Is that because you're pretty solid saying that it was $1100 and went missing, like was taken.
	And that you saw it when we spoke.
	And who took it?
	Who took possession of the money?
	I'm sorry.
	It's alright.
	The detective lets the contradiction slide once more.
	Jennifer is then brought to the moment where the intruders had just left, and she is tied to the upstairs banister.
	Let's come back to now you're being taken to the banister in the up.
	Don't apologize, okay?
	I'm gonna try and ask you questions to try and clarify points.
	Okay, if you don't remember, you don't remember.
	Okay, so don't there's no apologizing.
	The only reason you would apologize to me is if you've lied to me.
	That's another L person.
	When you go to a traumatic situation, there is no way that you're just going to forget things just like that.
	And even if uh this girl's being interviewed two days after the fact, so that's just crazy.
	That's just really bad for her.
	Yep.
	Just don't she's fucking on some bullshit, man.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Let's keep going.
	It's okay.
	Okay, I'm gonna ask you questions to clarify points.
	Okay.
	You're now bound to this to the to the railing.
	Can you show me?
	Can you stand up and turn around and tell me that's gonna show on a camera?
	How your hands are bound.
	And how you are against the railing.
	You don't have to sit down.
	I just need to see how you work.
	The only reason I'm trying to tell you I need to do this is that I'm also gonna ask you is that it's so take this back to from take it out of a traumatizing event, which it is, and put put yourself into a more clinical position, because I want to see how you could physically get your phone out of your waistband.
	We're obviously going to need to know that.
	It's very important.
	So traumatize away.
	Now put yourself into just a state of, I need to mechanically show how I can get access to my phone.
	Okay, because that's obviously very irrelevant.
	We know you made the phone call, but questions are gonna obviously raise is that if my hands are bound and I am against a railing, how do I talk to a 9-1-1 operator?
	Okay.
	So clinically.
	This is now a clinical demonstration.
	Just stand up, focus in on how you did it.
	She's like, oh shit.
	So I want you to stick that in your waistband as an example.
	Okay?
	So take your just take your sweat off, because this will be a very smooth, very quick thing.
	It's a one-time demonstration.
	I'm not gonna ask you to repeat it.
	The two critical parts of this demonstration are where Jennifer states she was tied and the movement of her arms as she takes her phone out of her pocket.
	The investigator is hoping the mechanics of the two components would be illogical and contradict each other.
	They tied my upper arm.
	Yes.
	Around the banister.
	Yes.
	But my hands are bound together.
	So your hands bound together, and this is the arm that's the the strings wrapped around against the banister?
	Okay, so now how can you get to the phone?
	And how do you make the phone call?
	Hey, CeeDee.
	Whether it be a stroke of luck or that Jennifer had prepared for this moment, this actually made sense.
	Had her arms gone left or the point of restraint been below the elbow, none of this would have been possible.
	It's perhaps the single moment where Jennifer's statement was somewhat beneficial to her defense.
	We know Jennifer was tied up when police arrived, but the assumption was that she had her phone in her hands the entire time and wouldn't have had to retrieve it from her waistband.
	She can now argue that this portion of her testimony is genuine.
	911.
	And do you talk down like that?
	Yes, I'm yelling at the phone like this.
	And how can you hear?
	I turned the volume on Max.
	Yes.
	Oh my god.
	So that's exactly the way that you're talking to her against the railing.
	Okay, that's good enough.
	Sit down.
	Jennifer is then brought back to the just before she heard the gunshots.
	At this point I start hearing my parents get up.
	I think he still didn't believe her.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, it's probably it's potent it's possible, but I mean, the phone was very if you notice when she was talking on the phone back, it was very clear.
	It didn't sound like it would be on speaker.
	Yeah.
	But let's keep on.
	Yeah, blackberry, yeah, probably was 2010, yeah.
	Yeah, the iPhone kind of was just a new thing.
	The iPhone 4 had just like come out around then.
	I thought you was gonna pull up the Hey Say, but no.
	Yeah.
	Nah, no hey Siri at that point.
	It's fucking blackberries, man.
	Alright, let's keep going.
	And they're moving.
	And my mom's yelling.
	Where's my daughter?
	I want my daughter.
	Where's my daughter?
	Here.
	Jennifer, take a clean accent.
	Just take a minute.
	You'll notice that she doesn't wipe her eyes or blow her nose, just buries her face in the tissue, which the detective later testified remained completely dry.
	Ha!
	Okay.
	So we're now down in the basement.
	They're down in the or know your parents are down in the basement.
	I heard pop.
	And then my mom.
	I heard her squeal.
	Multiple pops occur thereafter before she hears the intruders leave through the front door.
	What's the door closed there of my father?
	He ran up the stairs, and all you could hear it was Moni.
	What I heard him starting to move.
	I that's when I pulled up the phone and I was trying to call 9-1-1.
	This is untrue.
	She only realized her father was alive midway through the 9-1-1 call.
	And in that exact moment, you can actually hear genuine fear in her voice compared to her fabricated panic the moment before.
	"Some people broke into her house.
	Can you show us all this money?" What?
	Avenue.
	Avenue Road.
	Yeah.
	Can you spell the name for me, please?
	Dad?
	Ma'am?
	The final part of this statement is collecting information to set up the main strategy for Jennifer's interrogation that will take place ten days later.
	They go through Jennifer's past and gather and tell to lay the foundation for what's known as the how and why solution, which will be explained in further detail at a later stage.
	What I want to do now is I want to go into your past, okay?
	And start talking about things that have been going on with you.
	The detective now morphs into a therapist, and what's fascinating is how Jennifer doesn't once question the new line of inquisition.
	Many argue that it was the first time Jennifer was even asked about such matters, giving reason for her willingness to open up.
	This may have been the first time in her life she was able to process her frustrations and then to someone who appeared to care.
	The first topic is her parents and the expectations and pressures she was under to succeed.
	Which led to her faking her grades and then her college degree as to not be a disappointment.
	How did you feel about that?
	How did you feel about having to lie to your parents?
	I felt guilty, but every time I tried to bring it up, there was just so much.
	Yo, the chat, you guys got no chill, man.
	What?
	You guys got Mo and dying in the background over here with some of your guys' comments.
	I chose.
	Someone said they should force her to parallel park as a punishment.
	An Asian woman parallel parking.
	Oh man.
	Yo, what the fuck, man?
	Alright, let's keep calling, man.
	Guys, then we'll read the chats here in a second.
	I can't even.
	That's what I'm laughing because that's true.
	Women really suck at parallel parking.
	That's true.
	You guys are kidding me.
	And an Asian woman?
	Oh lord.
	And he's like, W racist joke.
	Alright, well, let's go back then.
	Come on.
	I was trying to hold it in, but it wouldn't end you.
	She just referred to the ultimatum she was given by her father.
	The choice to live at home and go back to school, or be completely cut off by her parents and live with her boyfriend.
	Information gathering on Jennifer's past goes on for roughly two hours and twenty minutes.
	The detective then ends the exchange by putting her under some pressure.
	It's not a direct confrontation, but it's by far the most uncomfortable position she's been in up to this point.
	The detective suddenly switches back to the home invasion and how the intruders were able to gain access without breaking in.
	Like you didn't hear you didn't hear a doorbell, you didn't hear a door knock, you didn't hear a door kicked in.
	You didn't I was I said I was watching TV on the phone.
	I I don't know how.
	Yeah.
	Uh I I know we went over that back and back and forth.
	We don't know how.
	So somehow they got into your house by getting through your mom.
	Down on the lower level, right?
	Because she's the only one who's down there.
	She's the only one down there.
	So it's very confusing.
	Generally, random events are not in most cases random.
	There's a rhyme or reason why they've come to your house.
	But from what you've told me inside the house, the only thing that you hear them saying to you is they're looking for money.
	They're not looking for a specific quantity of money?
	No.
	So you're telling me that you you had no involvement in what happened.
	Meaning not saying how the outcome came, but you you had no involvement in in any type of illegal activity that would have drawn you or the attention of you to have bad people come to your house looking for large sums of money.
	You're not involved in this any which way.
	Because the question obviously stands, Jennifer, is you're upstairs and they're downstairs.
	Right.
	So it's a natural concern when why would they leave you alone?
	Why would they not do the same to you?
	Hmm.
	Cool question.
	He's sick of her.
	He's sick of her.
	You can't answer that question.
	The only thing you say is he said I cooperated.
	But I asked him to take me.
	The number one guy, the number one guy said you cooperated.
	Okay.
	Who's to say this whole thing isn't a lie?
	Oh.
	That what you're telling me is a lie.
	It's the most cold-blooded thing that I have ever faced in my life.
	Huh.
	He has no remorse, and then I don't understand why she's crying.
	She's trying to know.
	She's trying to win the Oscar.
	There is nothing that you've said to me today is a lie.
	Now back to another very difficult question.
	But if I don't ask it, I'm gonna be you it's an obvious one.
	The resentment that you had that you may have had towards your parents for the interference in your relationship and your life and essentially locking you down in your house.
	At the end of the day, I love my parents and I chose to be with them.
	And if I wanted to, I could have just left, but I didn't.
	I wanted to stay with them and take care of them.
	You mean they take care of you.
	So this wasn't some evil plot that you thought up to Oh my god, no.
	No interaction, no belief, no you didn't have anything to do with this thing at all whatsoever.
	You don't engage in illegal activity?
	No.
	Because you know that it'll be very easily.
	It will be a very easy thing to discredit you on, right?
	We're we're in the process of trying to add credibility to what you tell us, and that's through the process of asking people and doing whatever.
	Through that same process, it will be very easy to find the flaws in what you've said.
	Which again then turns the focus back to you.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	It's a natural progress.
	It's a natural thing that investigators do.
	We eliminate people, or we draw our attention to them.
	It's a natural uh thing.
	It's a it's not brain surgery.
	Okay.
	The detective leaves the room for 20 minutes to allow Jennifer to stew in her own thoughts before they end the statement.
	He comes back to add one last bit of psychological pressure that he carefully disguises as reassurance.
	Jennifer will leave terrified, but still believe the police are on her side.
	Okay, we're pacing around.
	How are you feeling?
	Are you really scared?
	Did I what I scare you about?
	Sit down, sit down and take a load off.
	Tell me how tell me how you're feeling and how I scared you.
	I don't want you walking away from here thinking I'm evil.
	I want you to walk around from here thinking that this guy is helping investigate my mum's murder, and he's gonna turn over every stone possible to make sure that we catch the people who do that.
	That's what I want you feeling.
	So I don't want you walking away from here thinking that I'm a I'm I scared you or I'm I'm a bad man.
	Sometimes we have to ask very, very difficult questions, but it's my job.
	Okay.
	You're our only link.
	You're it.
	Until your dad regains his back and being able to be uh be uh be spoken to.
	Right now you're our only link to this case.
	But Captain had bullet fragments lodged in his face that Doctor couldn't remove and a shattered neck bone.
	At the time of this interview, the consensus was that if he did regain consciousness.
	You guys remember this song?
	It's copyright.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Is this song?
	Oh, we have it.
	We have that.
	Ah!
	Uh uh.
	Okay, why you always lie?
	Of course we have.
	Oh my god.
	Stop lying.
	Yeah, we have it, man.
	We're we we we're on it.
	I just don't have it on my soundboard, but Chris has it, so that's why.
	Alright, let's keep going.
	Yeah, we got you, Angie.
	He would be useless as a witness due to irreversible brain damage.
	So we're we may rely on you heavily on until we can speak to your father.
	That's a mistake.
	There so don't be afraid.
	So she told Sam the last thing you should be afraid of is As soon as my dad regains consciousness, I am fucked.
	Yeah.
	Cause at this point she didn't really know that he was gonna survive.
	So let's keep going.
	No, and throughout the whole the whole stuff, she was walking with the per the with the guys.
	Yeah, that's yeah, that's why well, we'll see that they'll see that here in a second, but that's why she was shocked when she heard him scream like that.
	She's like, Dad!
	She was like, Oh, he's like, I thought you were I thought you were dead.
	So, uh Alright, let's keep going.
	They shot him in the face and the shoulder shoulder, and he survived.
	Chris, you got it?
	I mean, Mo, sorry.
	It's anything.
	If you've told the truth and you've been truthful through this whole process, then you're helping.
	You're doing your part.
	Okay?
	And don't be afraid of me.
	I'm just afraid because you know, like, I know everything is just all pointing negatively right now, and I I don't understand why.
	I'm just I feel that like the way you're you're speaking to me, it's kind of like I know you said that you had to say those things, but it's yeah, it's here, and I've already said it to the special victims yesterday, but there's like ideas in my head.
	Yeah.
	And I'd afraid to say it out loud.
	Fuck your feelings.
	Ideas about speculation of what happened, uh, how it happened.
	Unfortunately, uh, at times some of us have to point a finger, seem like we're pointing the finger, and it really is just to provoke you to see what you're gonna do, how you're gonna respond.
	Okay.
	So it's only a question, and it's been answered.
	And if you've been truthful, okay, you have nothing to fear.
	Absolutely nothing.
	Okay.
	Police kept Jennifer under close observation from this point forward.
	A surveillance detail was assigned to track her every movement, and she was even monitored at her mother's funeral three days later.
	According to reports, she was emotionless the majority of the time, only showing what appeared to be feigned grief at certain moments.
	She never shed a single tear and kept her eyes to the floor or completely shut for the entirety of the service.
	Jennifer's father had In fact, awoken from his induced coma the day prior and miraculously seemed to remember everything from the night of the incident.
	He would give an official statement in secret on November 16th, and multiple parts of his story contradicted what Jennifer had told police.
	The most significant detail was that she was never tied up, but instead walking around freely and talking with the intruders as if they were friends.
	He actually spoke with Jennifer over the phone, but was informed by investigators to act amnesic and not to confront her, only to ask her if she thought her ex-boyfriend was behind it.
	She stated that she was almost certain he wasn't.
	The only issue with Han's statement was that he had suffered minor brain damage from the gunshot, which could be used by a defense team to refute his testimony in court, or even get it thrown out altogether.
	Furthermore, it was essentially his word against Jennifer's, and their turbulent relationship would also work greatly in the defense's favor.
	York Regional Police knew they needed a confession for the best possible chance at securing a conviction, so they assigned their most experienced investigator to conduct Jennifer's interrogation.
	She was called back into the Markham Police Station on the 22nd of November at 2.30 p.m., a week and a half after the incident took place.
	So just for the record, it is the uh 22nd of November 2010.
	We're at the uh five district station in the town of Markham.
	Uh my computer right now says 2 39 in the afternoon.
	Okay.
	Uh just for the record, my name is Detective William Gates.
	You can just call me Bill here today.
	And what do you like to be called?
	Jennifer.
	What do you prefer?
	Jen or Jennifer.
	Either.
	Okay, so Jen, um you're aware that the um audio tape and everything's on.
	Um it's the same as last time.
	Okay, you've been here on two other occasions, I understand.
	On the uh 9th of November, and I believe again on the 11th of November.
	Is that correct?
	Okay.
	And you know why we're here today?
	Yeah, regarding what?
	Yeah.
	Oh, what happened upon?
	Okay.
	And a result of that home invasion, um, your father uh hand was actually shot, and your mother uh band was actually killed.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah, you'll have to speak up a little bit so I can hear you.
	What's unique about this interrogator is how he immediately adopts a no nonsense approach, yet manages to build rapport and remain sympathetic at the same time.
	You'll see that he has far less patience compared to the previous investigator, yet seems to create a stronger connection with the suspect.
	It's a hard thing to explain, but easily observed as you'll soon find out.
	Uh so that's what we're gonna discuss here today.
	Jennifer this time around has read her rights to silence rather than her rights as a witness.
	If she knew anything about the law in Canada, she would be wise to the fact that she is now a suspect.
	Fortunately for the investigator, she remains completely naive to the situation throughout the opening phase of the interrogation, making her far more susceptible to the strategy he is about to employ.
	Okay, just told our second.
	Okay, we're we're having technical difficulties here.
	Okay, so that's why they interrupted me.
	What we're gonna do is if you don't mind holding paint there, I'm just gonna move my equipment to the other room.
	Okay, and then I'll come over and we'll move over there.
	Next door, okay?
	Okay, I'm gonna be right here though.
	Okay.
	With respect to interrogations, it's common knowledge that the psychological manipulation begins before a single word is spoken.
	The physical layout of the room is designed to accelerate the sense of discomfort and isolation, and it's fascinating to observe how each interrogator has their own unique methods of setting a tone.
	Knowing how this interrogation plays out allows us to realize this detective's procedure.
	The considerable distance between him and the suspect will keep her relaxed enough to be influenced by phase one.
	But this same distance will intensify the pressure once he eventually closes it during phase two.
	You'll notice this detective is slow with his first strategy, but swift with the second.
	He takes his time in building trust and establishing rapport.
	Yet once this initial connection is secured, the transition to aggression will be abrupt and ever increasing from that point forward.
	Jennifer takes a seat in the room 15 minutes since she was first informed of her rights.
	It's important to note that she is still free to leave at any time at this point.
	She is unknowingly a suspect, but not under arrest.
	So just for the record, this room is being videotaped and audio tape, just like the other one, okay?
	And I'm just gonna grab my chair from the crossway, okay?
	Okay.
	The detective goes through Jennifer's history of teaching piano and her earlier years of high-level figure skating, which was cut short due to injury.
	If he didn't get injured, would you still be doing it?
	Yeah.
	That's nice.
	And did you, as far as that, did you do uh like competition skating or how did you do it though?
	Yeah, so that's good though.
	But you did actually enjoy it.
	It was more than just going for uh competition, you enjoyed actually.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Do you have any students right now?
	Okay.
	Yeah, why not?
	Uh the students I were teaching in my high school.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, too big for a panel.
	Yeah, I took it in grade school too, but uh I think I got I went to grade seven in an accent like in when I was in grade seven, I stopped thinking about uh I still remember Swans on the Lake.
	The detective then goes through Jennifer's work history as a server before touching on her future plans in education.
	Jennifer mentions that she plans to go by her parents' wishes and pursue a career in healthcare, at which point the primary strategy is initiated, the how and why solution.
	The detective gradually begins to shift the blame away from the suspect and on to another set of circumstances that prompted the suspect to commit the crime.
	He starts developing a theme that will afford her a psychological justification in doing it.
	And this theme will be further established as the interrogation progresses.
	It starts off subtle so that she remains oblivious to the agenda.
	Now, if you could pick any job yourself, not talking about anybody else, but if you could pick for yourself, what would it be?
	I'm gonna be a piano teacher when I come home, so I'd like to have a simple, maybe like a last technician job, just work.
	Eight like eight hours a day when I come home with each time.
	Okay.
	This is an answer the detective was hoping for.
	Jennifer's preferred career choice is at odds with what her parents wanted, so he now builds on the concept of the overly controlling parent and the unfair limitations it causes the child.
	He then links this concept with the subject of Jennifer's boyfriend and how she was kept from seeing him.
	Now, um eventually you were discussing Daniel.
	What happened with that relationship?
	I hate it from my parents at first.
	They didn't agree with me having a working.
	Okay.
	And uh once they found out they didn't like the fact that he was of mixed race.
	Okay.
	And uh they told me to stop someone.
	Okay.
	And how did that make you?
	Notice how she leaves out that he was a drug dealer.
	Yep.
	Instead it's oh it's race, that's that's my why my parents don't like him.
	Which that could be the reason, but she's not gonna talk about the real major reason, which is yo, your boyfriend's a drug dealer.
	I don't even think they cared that much about race.
	When you broke up you felt the part was missing, is that what you're saying?
	When they first told me to talk to me and stop talking again.
	I just I felt like a party was missing and I fell into a little bit of depression.
	Okay.
	How did they find out?
	Um one day when my mother came to pick me up, uh she found me with you dropped me off.
	Okay.
	Dropped you off.
	Uh at the mall.
	And my mother was coming to pick me up for the system.
	Okay.
	And somehow they saw each other, I guess.
	Oh, my mother saw me.
	Uh okay.
	I gave it away.
	What happened next though?
	Um I tried to bring him home.
	My mother at first is like, you know, bring him home when I needed when I brought him home.
	Um they didn't they automatically didn't like it for some reason.
	Okay.
	Nothing I told me that stopped seeing you.
	Okay.
	So you were told to uh stop seeing him.
	So what happened then?
	At first I stopped for a while.
	Um, but like I said, I just felt really empty and I thought just pressure and uh.
	Jennifer then goes on to explain quick further.
	Give me a favor.
	We got one point one K I watched it on YouTube and another uh one point six over on um Rumble.
	Guys, do me a favor, like the video on YouTube and on Rumble.
	Let's get to 1,000 plus likes so we can hit that 90% engagement.
	Let's keep going.
	Shit's about how she carried on the relationship in secret and how it became more and more of a struggle hiding it from her parents.
	Now, how is Daniel taking it when your parents said that uh you couldn't see him anymore?
	How did he take it?
	Yeah.
	Um how did you feel?
	She then goes on to explain that she was living with Daniel at his parents' house for two years, while her own parents thought she was studying at a university.
	And his parents were, I guess, more liberal than your parents.
	Their parents' parents, uh, they loved they they loved me.
	Yeah, okay.
	And um they recognize that you loved each other.
	Jennifer recounts how she bought a fake diploma for five hundred dollars to show her parents and the many other avenues she went down to keep the lie going.
	She eventually gets to the day she was found out.
	How did you end up back home, I guess?
	Uh they called up my friend who I said I was staying with in the middle of the night.
	And uh she brought you and forgot what day it was it was she's like given she home and I wasn't holding.
	Okay.
	She messed up.
	I don't blame her, but no, okay.
	Jennifer then goes on to explain the ultimatum she was given and the restrictive measures that were put in place so that she wouldn't be able to see her boyfriend.
	So how has that felt being under those guidelines for the last 18 months?
	It was okay, like uh it wasn't the best feeling in the world because I'm sold in trapped.
	Okay.
	But uh it's what I chose to do.
	And so you made a choice between what?
	Uh living out of my own and did you feel you really had a choice or not?
	There was no choice because family was concerned.
	Okay.
	And where do you get that from?
	Where do you get that belief?
	Okay.
	So family's number one.
	Yeah.
	The detective then brings up Jennifer's earlier assertion of being depressed and then affiliates it with the restrictive measures she was living under.
	Did you ever feel that they expected too much of you?
	Comparisons to other people.
	Okay.
	So who would they compare you to?
	Like classmates, clubmate.
	Company.
	Okay.
	And so some of them have been successful recently.
	Okay.
	And what did they say to you?
	Okay.
	So that's pretty hard, right?
	Hard to take for you.
	I've heard all my life.
	Nothing.
	Did you ever feel like I know you're smart and they believe you're very smart.
	But did you ever feel you weren't as smart as what they thought that you were?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I get that feeling.
	That it's pretty tough to live up to their expectations.
	Okay, like your dad ultimately would like to see you be like a doctor.
	Those were pretty high standards for anybody.
	Not everybody can be a doctor.
	Okay.
	And but they may have acted like you could have done it, no problem.
	Their expectations were so high that few people would be able to reach that expectation.
	I'm not just talking about you, I'm talking about anyway.
	Alright, pause.
	Um and it started.
	He's trying to help her justify and rationalize her actions.
	Um and this is uh really big when you interview suspects.
	You have to make it seem as though, hey, I get it, I know why you did what you did.
	You know, you were going through some shit, unrealistic expectations from your parents, they're constricting you from your boyfriend.
	Like I can see her perspective.
	You almost have to kind of identify with their yeah, you gotta be be able to step in their shoes and be empathetic to why they might have done what they've done.
	Obviously, you know, nothing ever really excuses you from killing people, but it's a tactic used to build rapport with suspects.
	Let's keep going.
	The detective further explores the stresses of living with overly strict parents, and Jennifer explains in further details the way she would cope, which for the most part was lying about her grades and living a double life with her boyfriend.
	How did it feel having to lie to them all those years?
	They had to tell them.
	It was the kind that I wanted to tell them, but they always looked down and disappointed.
	Okay.
	I'm sure there were days when you actually plan that this is the day I'm gonna tell them, and then you just couldn't spit it out.
	The opening strategy of the how and why solution has now been executed.
	A connection has been attained, and the desired narrative established.
	The next phase of the interrogation is about to commence, which is first set up by a two-step strategy.
	Step one is to induce fatigue, step two is to induce fear.
	Now, when's the last time you spoke to your dad?
	You think the racing would have played into their heart strings?
	Uh to a degree.
	I if he was Asian himself, he would have been like, yeah, I totally get it, but he's doing a good job of identifying with like being with overly strict parents.
	He and my brother had meetings in school with him.
	And what have you and your father discussed about it in this case?
	He just asked me if Danny was behind it.
	Well, I meant um having a black boyfriend.
	Oh, do I think what about it?
	Like normally, like say, um like trying not to be like anti-black, like oh, because uh my parents didn't like him because he was black.
	Oh, you mean that would have been to their heart.
	Like that would have played into like the government's heart strings, which she was probably thinking.
	I don't understand your question.
	Uh but the the girl's boyfriend was Chinese too.
	Was Asian, so yeah, it was the one guy Mo.
	Donnie was He just got the three black dudes to help out.
	Ah well, two black dudes and one Sri Lankan.
	Who was black too?
	No.
	Nah, Sri Lankans are Indians, basically.
	They're Asians.
	But they're also black.
	Not black in the sense that you're thinking of.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	They're not African American.
	Yeah, or they're not from Africa.
	They're they're they're they're really dark-skinned uh Indians, basically, is what if you're gonna not sound racist or whatever, but that's what Sri Lankans look like.
	Like they're really dark-skinned like Indians or Pakistanis.
	Okay.
	But they have their own language and their own culture and everything.
	But that's what they look like.
	And it smell like no kidding.
	Uh uh.
	Yeah, that's great.
	Oh, and then we're gonna read chats here in a little bit too, Mo, so Mo, uh have the Rumble rants ready.
	Once he starts confronting her, we'll read the chats.
	Let's keep going.
	All right, guys, like the video, god damn it.
	Let's get to one thousand likes on YouTube, god damn it.
	I don't think he did.
	Okay.
	Why would he ask that?
	Because anybody's chat before talk and yeah, you look at anyone.
	Okay.
	What do you think about that?
	I know he's moved on, so I don't think he is.
	The detective has Jennifer go through the entire incident once more, but unlike the first investigator, offers no reassurance nor consolation.
	Jennifer starts fake crying again, yet this time is given no tissues to wipe away her non-existent tears.
	Now, do you think there's any reason why they tied you up and didn't tie your parents up?
	I don't know.
	Does that seem odd to you?
	Why does it seem odd?
	Because I was always bump up here separated from the plane.
	And does it make sense that they would leave a witness behind?
	They're gonna kill somebody.
	Does that make sense?
	You went on it, bitch.
	Just thinking about it.
	But it makes sense for somebody that was going to kill somebody to leave a witness behind that could describe them.
	Does that make common sense for killers?
	What do you think?
	You think that was a mistake they made then?
	I don't know.
	They kept saying that they're running out of time.
	I know, I I don't know.
	Jennifer's dramatics intensify as the discussion of the home invasion continues.
	She's trying to give off a nonverbal cue that she wants to move past the incident.
	The detective doesn't respond, but continues to go over the different stages of the night in more detail.
	He jumps from the beginning to the end, to the middle, back to the end, and then back to the beginning again.
	None of this is for the purpose of information gathering.
	He is inducing mental fatigue as to diminish Jennifer's critical thinking.
	This is often done before a direct confrontation, as it can diminish the suspect's ability to consider the long-term consequences of a decision.
	Jennifer will get stressed and tired, not because she is traumatized by the event being recited, but because it's exhausting keeping up such an act when it's not genuine.
	And this performance eventually starts to dwindle and becomes gradually less convincing.
	How did the conversation end with that?
	I heard my father, my mother calling for my father.
	And then what?
	Okay.
	Uh um when you went to bed, was your mom home yet?
	She just got me home and I went down.
	I told that I'll be right back and I I went down, I didn't hire her and I went back up to my room.
	Okay.
	Were you injured at all during the whole process?
	Not really.
	Okay.
	Not really anything.
	Step two of the confrontation setup will now commence.
	The detective employs what is known as the futility technique.
	He will tell Jennifer that he has an abundance of resources at his disposal and even fabricate much of what he asserts.
	He's indirectly telling the suspect it is useless to resist due to the overwhelming evidence against her.
	Now the reason why I'm here today, okay, is that I'm an expert, okay, in what we call truth verification.
	Oh.
	I talked to thousands of people.
	Okay.
	Alright, let's pause it right here when he starts.
	Now he's gonna start confronting her.
	So let's read some of these chats.
	Um and rumble rants, you guys are hilarious.
	Um, let's see here.
	We got uh Fresh Fit Money Clips, 10 bucks.
	What's good, chat?
	Thanks for all your support across all platforms.
	F and F, we up.
	Appreciate that, my friend.
	That's uh from Rod Eric.
	We got Hunter, goes, good evening for Vermont.
	Myron, have you t heard of Brianna Maitland?
	It's a famous case here in Vermont.
	If not, uh, have you done any cases on Fed Racks from Vermont?
	Also, have you thought of starting a separate podcast and bringing on detectives for this?
	Um I have thought about bringing on other law enforcement people.
	Uh that's something that I will do in the future, so don't worry.
	But I have never heard of uh can you write that down, Angie?
	Vr Brianna Maitland.
	Mm-hmm.
	You haven't heard that one?
	Okay.
	Can you Google it real quick?
	Apparently a case out of Vermont.
	Um Hunter, uh 47 goes, This is crazy.
	Went to the same high school as her.
	Everyone talked about this case when uh when I was there.
	Oh, wow, cool.
	Shout out to you, bro.
	Um anything else?
	Okay.
	D DJ Build goes, FNF, never F and Leave in question.
	What's your thoughts on Dion Sanders' leadership?
	And can you do a podcast on get more confidence speaking in a high level and know and not doubt it?
	Born Mexico build in the USA.
	Um yeah, I could do that.
	I could I could do a public speaking podcast for y'all.
	Um it's gonna take time though, guys.
	It took me years for me to acquire my public speaking skills, and a lot of it came from being in the government presenting cases to like boards of people to get funding.
	I can I've explained that it's explained it before here on Fed Reacts.
	Um how I used to go and when I did my OCDF cases, uh organized truck crime drug enforcement task forces, you have to present your case in front of a board of different people from the FBI, DEA, etc.
	to request funding.
	And um that's what I would uh that's when I practice a lot of my uh public speaking.
	Um who's up next.
	Oh, yeah, and I like what Deion Sanders is doing.
	Uh Myron's not well aware of um.
	I know who he is, but yeah, I mean I watch sports no more.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Um, but just know it's it's a long process was going on in Colorado.
	Just so just know that.
	So just trust the process, don't expect anything right away.
	But it's I like what's going on.
	Well, did he take on a team or something?
	Uh yeah, he's now he's in a D1 college.
	He came from a because he was previously putting on the map a um HBCU, Jackson State.
	In Colorado?
	Yeah.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	First, he took a couple years coaching uh um HBCU, put it on the map.
	Um Dave was doing really well, extremely well, and now he ended up getting a job at Colorado University.
	Okay, so now he's uh he's a football coach.
	Yes.
	Okay, okay.
	He's been and he's been putting that now.
	He's putting that on the map.
	So a lot of big headlines going on.
	That's all right.
	All right.
	Uh Dom, of course, Fresh.
	How could I be so rude?
	Also, the clean shaven exodia, fire episode as always.
	Okay, Dom.
	I don't know what you're talking about, but okay.
	Uh love watch Fed Reacts.
	Y'all ever thought about doing the Central Park 5?
	I think that would be a good one for y'all to research and do.
	Angie has that on the list.
	Yes.
	Uh, shout out to you, Tori.
	Um Ellie uh goes shout out to South Park Miami with Myron, Angie, and Stan and Wendy.
	Okay, I don't know who those people are, but Wendy, Chris Bills, and Fresh as Cartman, Kenny, Butters, and Kyle.
	All right.
	Wait, hold on.
	You don't know about South Park?
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm like, yo, you would love to say yeah, no, I watched South Park Day.
	They're saying that we're Stan and Win.
	Uh yeah.
	Oh, okay, okay, okay.
	Now I get it.
	Yeah, yeah, just back that.
	Yeah, that's called.
	That's yeah, that's what he said is me, Cartman.
	Yeah, well, that makes sense because you're a fat.
	Oh god.
	Uh 60 minute conspiracy fresh uh conspiracy time fresh balls is Big Bo.
	No.
	Nah, that's definitely not him, bro.
	That's not me.
	Believe me.
	Uh fresh balls, we still to this day don't know who he is.
	That is my favorite account, though.
	Get a fresh guess.
	Uh W racism, all right?
	Shout out to you.
	Angie probably used um saying that.
	I mean racism.
	Yeah.
	Uh did she say corn pop?
	I heard he was a bad dude.
	I don't know what cornpop is.
	What?
	Johnny Silverhand.
	What's that?
	Uh, what else?
	Fresh dog used to work with Cubans.
	They told me one time how they used to clap pony cheeks as kids.
	Uh okay, freshest dog.
	Thanks, bro.
	I think he means Cuban dogs.
	No.
	Uh um, like horses, maybe.
	Oh, all right.
	Weird.
	All right.
	Racist outfit eater, creator.
	Come on, Myron, stop the cap.
	That's why you love Angie.
	All right, Black Vet.
	Ah.
	This guy.
	Goku says, She was describing Anus and Reach around the ass.
	Okay.
	Ow.
	Uh, that's from before.
	Uh, I believe her, three diglits, yeah, sure, bro.
	Sure, three diglitz.
	Not the cow.
	Uh world's coolest nerd goes, average looks, average grades, average hit.
	If only this bitch took the same energy from organizing a hit into improving her grades.
	SMH and Big Mo, any last chat I was referring to WWE releases.
	Um, I haven't been catching on to the WWE releases, so uh I was kind of been resting the past couple days.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we've been grinding, guys.
	Oh, yeah, so I'm I'm gonna check it.
	I'm Dragon Ball's E Stream coming soon, though.
	Ooh.
	W W. Mo uh Easy goes, Mariani, Can you ask this girl on uh this on girl panel?
	What dictates a massages man versus a man with opinions that don't align with yours?
	It seems like any discriminal woman makes you a misogynist.
	Yes, bro.
	Well, you must be new here, pretty much.
	They're not gonna understand that question.
	Yeah.
	If if you don't think like a female, it's considered wrong.
	Hi, Marin.
	How do you deal with super simp blue pill brothers?
	They're 10 years older than me, so they don't validate my points and it hurts to see them go down this road.
	Bro, you ain't gonna change it until they come until they like are ready for it, bro.
	Most people are blue pill, it is what it is.
	Even family members a lot of times.
	It sucks.
	Gotta burn to learn.
	Gotta burn and learn.
	Uh Bonnie Best Best goes, Moses West, ex military made a machine that grabs water from moisture in the air and filters it to make drinkable water.
	Could you make a segment on this?
	Don't think he'll be alive for too long, in my opinion.
	Okay.
	Uh Johnny Silver, things aren't adding up.
	Typical, they should uh they should because that she Asian, but again, women plus math, they don't add up either.
	Okay.
	Well, she has Asia, so she's good at math.
	Uh fresh dog, she crying to say him when 304s get caught cheating.
	Okay.
	Uh oh, yeah, I know what this is.
	Sons of Blue Chi my way because I've never seen Ben Software watching a Chinese bitch.
	God damn, nigga.
	She's Vietnamese.
	Why can't you say his uh because it's a term that YouTube doesn't like?
	Yeah.
	Oh lepra etc.
	Uh they should force her to parallel Park is punishment.
	That was a joke earlier that had us laughing.
	Uh yeah, the word is banned on YouTube is kinda lame.
	Man, these three oh fours we lied.
	Third time seeing this and still can't believe the stupidity.
	I know, bro.
	Wild.
	Nuts at all.
	Not at tell all.
	Uh Natella.
	Okay.
	Uh first dog.
	She said, I can't answer the questions, detective, but give me an algebra test and I got you.
	Okay.
	Uh she had that amber heard real quick.
	Facts, Natella and my booty.
	Ow.
	Pause.
	Fresh dog.
	Life is Roblox.
	I think he he said that when she was doing a little twirl.
	Oh, okay.
	Uh let's keep going here.
	So now he's about to confront her.
	let's see what happens here when she gets some pressure guys got it Yeah.
	Somebody's not being straightforward with me.
	Okay.
	I can tell by the language they use, how they answer the question, their body language, how they treat the question, that something's wrong here.
	Okay, this doesn't make sense.
	The detective then gives Jennifer an eight minute narrative on police tactics and forensic technology, some of which is embellished, but for the most part true.
	He then asserts that police are able to use infrared satellite imagery to see the occupants inside a household.
	This is entirely false.
	And basically, if people are moving around in a house, um, it's like an X-ray.
	Okay.
	And basically we're able to tell, you know, are those movements, are those actions, that number of people consistent with the story that we've been told.
	Um are the people in the positions that the witnesses are telling us they were in.
	Uh or are they different?
	Okay, and if they're different, why are they different?
	But what a question becomes, right?
	And so at the end of the day, okay, there's so many resources available to me.
	Um, that at the end of the day, I'm going to know if a person's telling me the truth or not.
	The detective is now about to initiate the confrontation.
	But first, brings the entire setup full circle by reestablishing the notions of reasoning and rationale.
	The suspect is fatigued and scared, but still needs to feel the detective is on her side.
	Now, I can tell you that nothing surprises me in this job.
	Okay.
	I am well aware that anybody on this earth is capable of making a mistake.
	Okay.
	I don't care who they are.
	I don't care.
	Um if they're a priest, I don't care if they're a school teacher.
	I don't care what the situation is.
	Look at her body language.
	A certain set of circumstances.
	Everyone has the capability, Jennifer, of making a mistake.
	Doing the wrong thing.
	Okay.
	Um the key though, when I talk to people is when they made a mistake, okay, that's one thing, right?
	The key is to not keep making the same mistake.
	And to get that information out, you can get it off your chest.
	Okay?
	You understand what I'm saying?
	So at the end of the day, from this case, and I can tell you I spent literally a week on this case going over information after information, accessing all those sources, speaking to every other expert on the case.
	And at this point, Jennifer, I know that you've not been truthful with the police.
	You've not told us everything that you know.
	Purposely.
	You've spent a considerable amount of time in the last seven years telling half truths.
	And I can understand why, okay?
	You've had a tough life.
	What's happened to you to me equates to abuse.
	And all the stresses that you've had and forced to lie, I can understand why you did it.
	Okay?
	But you're in another situation here where you're under another tremendous amount of stress.
	And it doesn't feel good inside, does it?
	It breaks down the person that you are.
	Because at the end of the day, you're a good person.
	I know that.
	You've got a good heart.
	In this case, though, you've made mistakes.
	Okay?
	And you're involved in this.
	I know that.
	Okay, there's no question about it.
	The only question right now is are you going to keep making mistakes?
	Are you going to go on the route that you've gone on over the years and try to pretend that things happen that never happened?
	Okay, are you gonna not face reality here?
	We know that you're involved.
	We've done our homework, okay?
	We have to resolve that now here today.
	I need to know from you what really happened.
	And I know why this has happened.
	You have spent your whole life trying to live up to expectations that you can't make, okay, and that stressed the hell out of you.
	You're a 24-year-old woman being treated like a 15 year old.
	Okay?
	What you've never done anything that terrible in your life, but you're being treated like you have.
	You're not being treated like the adult that you are.
	Yes, you made some mistakes, big deal.
	You're not the first person that has gone out and not told their parents that they're dating a guy because in your culture they don't accept it.
	I understand that.
	I've talked to people in here that have kept that secret for their whole life.
	From their parents.
	Okay, so that's not abnormal, but that puts a lot of stress on you, right?
	That's not easy for you, is it?
	No.
	Now, what we need to get down to here today, Jen, is what really happened.
	Pause.
	So what he's doing right now, guys.
	Um, I've done this before too, um, where you basically listen to them lie over several occasions.
	You guys know they've inter they probably have hours of her lying at this point.
	This is a third interview at this point.
	And best believe he's listened to all her interviews, the interview the dad, he's intimately involved in the investigation for him to be interviewing her uh from a suspect perspective at the end.
	So, what he's doing right now is letting her know, basically politely, we know you're full of shit.
	We know you're probably involved.
	Uh, your story doesn't jive up.
	We have these tactics where we can, you know, identify liars like you, and we have evidence that shows otherwise blah blah blah.
	And he's setting this all up to see how she's gonna respond and what she says.
	He's trying to draw out a confession from her or make her feel overwhelmed.
	And you know, this is typically what you do when you deal with someone that's been like lying constantly over time, and you've kind of just been like letting them uh you know giving them the rope to hang themselves, and this is pretty much right now is him saying there's no more rope.
	You've pretty much hung yourself.
	What are you gonna do from this point?
	So let's see what uh what how she responds here.
	Because you know who was in that house that night.
	You do, Jen.
	There's no question about that, okay.
	While remaining empathetic and understanding, the detective still needs to keep Jennifer's confidence low.
	He watches for denials and stops them immediately.
	Letting a suspect deny her guilt will only increase confidence and morale.
	This needs to be stripped away as much as possible, as early as possible.
	There's no question about it, okay.
	The focus is kept from the magnitude of the crime and concentrated on the justifications of why someone would commit it.
	Yes, their intentions might have been good, but they're not realistic.
	They're not, Dan were they?
	Your expectations weren't realistic, were they?
	You couldn't live up to them, could you?
	You tried to.
	Right?
	Am I right?
	And finally you had to bite back, right?
	You had no other choice.
	You felt like you had no other options.
	This is Canada.
	We're in the 21st century here.
	You cannot take everything out of a person.
	You can have expectations for your kids, but you can't expect them to do everything the way you want.
	It doesn't feel good to have secrets, does it?
	No.
	You have to let me know what happened here.
	Okay.
	Okay, but you were involved.
	Right?
	That's the part we need.
	Okay?
	We need to hear that from you because we know you were.
	The detective appears to be getting nowhere, so he now lowers the gauge of admission.
	A confession to a lesser offense is far easier to attain.
	But once it is attained, can be used to build on the more damnatory elements of the case.
	You also notice that he uses broad terms that infer guilt, yet don't directly accuse Jennifer of murder.
	You knew before that night that this was gonna happen.
	I'm gonna make that easy on you.
	That's a true statement, right?
	You knew before that night that they were coming.
	Right?
	Again?
	It's not worth it anymore.
	It's hurting you.
	She seems to be on the cusp of giving some form of admission, yet wants reassurance as to what it means for her own sake.
	She asks this question nine times throughout this interrogation.
	It's one of the few things investigators can't actually lie about, as it's been used countless times in the past to get a case thrown out under misdirection.
	They can avoid the question, yet they can't afford any false promises with respect to sentencing.
	I need to know the details.
	I can't even say.
	But I can tell you one thing is that we already know, so you can't change that.
	I know you did.
	But it got too far ahead of you, right?
	You didn't think this far ahead, did you?
	Definitely didn't stupid.
	But once they started, once they came in, you couldn't stop it, could you?
	Could you?
	Jen?
	Huh?
	Why didn't you stop?
	I know.
	Why didn't they stop for you?
	But you were part of the planning, right?
	You have to tell me that part, and then we're gonna work through it together.
	Oh shit, here we go.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You didn't want you wanted to stop, and you have to prove that to me now.
	Because at the end of the day, we have to stop this from happening to someone else.
	Right.
	What happens?
	We're gonna have to deal with it once again.
	All she cares about, man, she doesn't care about her.
	I need to know what you did.
	This is a critical moment, guys.
	Critical moment part is of this whole thing is that we do the right thing for your mom.
	Right?
	I am her voice right now.
	I'm working for your mom.
	That's my job.
	And I have to get to the bottom of this for your mom.
	Appealing to compassion isn't necessarily uncommon when the crime is first degree murder.
	Yet it can send a mixed message when a justification for the crime was a focus point early on.
	The detective takes his chance with it, which at first appears to work.
	Jennifer initially responds in a poignant manner, but you'll soon come to notice that her empathy, alongside her concern, is solely focused on herself.
	But we gotta start.
	But what happened to me?
	It's not empathy, brother.
	It's all upistic.
	Yep.
	Absolutely.
	Well, I don't know at this point.
	Okay, because I don't know what you're gonna tell me other than that you were involved, but I need to hear it.
	What this all was with a latch dis effort to live your own life, to be your own person, to make your own decisions.
	Look at all your friends.
	Look at all the people around you.
	Does anyone else have a curfew for nine o'clock at twenty-four years of age?
	You had no choice here, Jen.
	I know that.
	And anybody else in your situation would have done the exact same thing.
	The only thing different is I would say that they'd have done it a lot earlier.
	They would have looked for a way of when did you first start planning this?
	When was the final straw?
	What was the final straw?
	That's what this is all about.
	Do you want to be a good person here?
	Jennifer knows exactly what questions to answer and what ones to ignore.
	Any time a question is non-incriminating, she gives a response.
	Yet when they are incriminating, she remains silent.
	She is no doubt feeling the pressure, but still very aware of the situation and the potential ramifications of her words.
	And you know when a good person makes a mistake, they have to face that mistake, right?
	Right?
	What do you think should happen?
	I don't know.
	You're gonna prove to people that you know what the right thing to do is.
	That's what is gonna happen.
	That's what your mom wants right now.
	She's watching us here.
	She's wondering is Jen gonna make the right decision here?
	Is Jen, after all of this, gonna come out on top doing the right thing?
	I'm here for you, Jen.
	I'm here for your mom.
	What happens to me?
	Fuck my mom.
	Well, you have to tell it's one of those situations, you know what?
	We know that what you did, okay?
	You have to be able to explain to me what happened, okay?
	I can't What happens to me?
	Yeah.
	Three things that say, What happens to me, bro?
	Your mom is dead.
	I think she asked nine times, man.
	So this girl is crazy big time.
	She lied to her boyfriend.
	They he broke up with her.
	He broke up with her.
	Um, and he started dating another girl.
	And she told him that some guys broke into her house and gang raped her.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Guys, we only it got 800 likes, by the way.
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	Because like I said before, YouTube is lame and demonetized all of our channels, even Fed Reacts, which has nothing to do with the stuff that's controversial.
	But yeah.
	Oh my god.
	Yeah, what were you saying, Angie?
	No, yeah.
	Yeah, that's crazy that she would lie like that.
	She's you set up a hit for her and everything.
	After after she no, but this is this was before.
	After she found Oh, when her parents were still alive?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Because her her parents found out that she was lying about her job and stuff because she was working at a restaurant.
	Yeah.
	Because she didn't go to school or anything.
	Uh-huh.
	And um they made her finish high school because she failed high school like a bum.
	Yeah.
	And they they forbid her to be with the boyfriend.
	So he got tired of that.
	And he said dating another girl.
	Okay.
	And when she found out he got tired of sneaking in through the window.
	He was like, man, this just sucks.
	Yeah.
	I'm gonna go get another chick that's parents aren't crazy.
	This guy was a drug dealer, and he was a pizza guy.
	He was making pizzas.
	So he uh he was um he was dating another girl when she found out about this new girl, she told him that uh a man broke into her house wearing a pull a police batch, and then several men entered, and Gang graped her?
	Yeah, bro.
	And then she claimed after this that a bullet was mailed to her.
	Wow.
	Yeah, and that both of these events were made by this uh the boyfriend's girlfriend.
	Can you believe that?
	She's insane.
	Literally killed her parents for this dude, lied and said that she got gang grape.
	Bro, this chick is weird, bro.
	This nigga Wong must have had some game or something, bro.
	He had Wong must have had the wang.
	I don't know.
	What's his name?
	Wall Jason Wong or some shit.
	Daniel, Daniel.
	Daniel Wong.
	So um Angie's more upset that he's a pizza maker than a drug dealer.
	No, I just can't believe this chick is so crazy.
	You're like, yeah, he's a drug dealer, but ugh, he's a pizza maker.
	Yeah, it's a good one.
	All right, let's see.
	Daniel Chi Kong Wong.
	Bless you.
	Yeah.
	Salute.
	Tell you what's exactly going to happen to you.
	You just have to be brave here.
	You have to be brave.
	Three hours, 20 minutes and 26 seconds.
	The exact amount of time it took for Jennifer to display genuine emotion.
	The investigator would later testify this was the first moment the suspect was being authentic.
	He allows her to fixate on whatever thought brought this on, and remains completely silent for just under two minutes.
	sad music
	Sorry, don't you?
	We're supposed to take you?
	What?
	So you're supposed to take the whole family up?
	No, what went wrong?
	The detective now has one foot in the door.
	It's not an outright confession, but Jennifer has now admitted to planning the home invasion all along.
	And although she asserts that she was the intended bitch!
	Her parents were meant to be spared.
	The information she has now given is enough to place her under arrest.
	Jennifer is no longer going home after this interview.
	The detective now presses for more information on the amended storyline.
	It's essentially step one of day one, all over again.
	But from a more powerful position.
	He knows she is still lying and now locks her into as many lies as possible within the new narrative.
	What happened?
	Why did it change?
	Okay, what do you know?
	How come it was supposed to be you?
	W racist chat, bro.
	Yeah, chat.
	Yeah, the rumble chat going crazy.
	Both of them, and you two.
	two wongs don't make two wongs don't make a white oh Uh okay, you made mistakes, but nothing that couldn't be corrected.
	So who did you get to do this then?
	I got his number.
	Okay.
	And what's his number?
	She skirts around the questions surrounding her accomplices and gives multiple fake names.
	She stated that she got the number of the supposed hitman from an acquaintance named Rick, and that she took everything from there over the phone.
	It becomes apparent she doesn't want to give up or even mention her boyfriend.
	So for the time being, the detective allows her to recount her amended narrative in the manner she pleases.
	So what did you ask them to do then?
	Okay.
	Why didn't they do it when you were um when your parents were there then?
	Never alone.
	Okay.
	So that meeting you had with Rick.
	You told him what you wanted?
	No.
	I just said that I wanted to knew anybody who could take care of something that I needed.
	And he said what?
	Did he have the number with them that day?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What did he say he would do?
	He just like hearing it.
	So he does come into the house.
	And you're the obvious only young girl there, right?
	Okay.
	When he came here, you're So now we're gonna go through the scheme.
	Yeah.
	What discussions did you have with the guy that came to your room?
	The real discussions you had, not what you told us.
	Where was the money?
	Can I tell him where the money was?
	Okay.
	But he obviously said $200,000 in savings.
	Oh, her parents had 200k?
	Damn.
	What'd they do for work?
	They uh I don't really know.
	Fun out, but they were political refugees.
	That's why they went to Canada.
	Okay, that makes sense.
	Refugees, bro.
	Yeah.
	Uh let's keep going.
	What did he say?
	Did he discuss ways with you how he would do it?
	No.
	Did you request any way for him to do it?
	Make sure no one else was around.
	Okay.
	Why didn't they do it the way you want?
	I asked him.
	I asked them to take them on my law when they took him away.
	It doesn't seem to make sense.
	I know it doesn't make sense to me.
	Okay.
	Can you sit up for a minute, Jen?
	Okay, look at me.
	The detective wants an outright confession, and the second direct confrontation is about to commence.
	Only this time it will be a lot more aggressive, as he doesn't have to worry as much about the suspect locking up or requesting counsel.
	She is under arrest and going to jail after this interrogation, no matter what.
	Look at me.
	Okay.
	What I do believe is that you went to somebody.
	And I do believe that night you paid them the two thousand dollars.
	But what's not true is it was never for you.
	Okay, Jen, no.
	Okay.
	You went to this person and you asked them to do a job.
	And the job was for your parents.
	You asked them to do this job on your parents, Jen.
	Okay?
	Let's be truthful.
	Okay.
	Nobody's gonna come there and get the wrong people.
	Um you were made a specific request.
	And the job was for they were um manufacturers.
	Auto part is manufacturers.
	Auto part manufacturers?
	Oh, part, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	They worked as tool and die maker.
	Were they entrepreneurs?
	Like they owned it, or did they work for a company?
	They were for a company called Magna International.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Hardworking immigrants, man.
	They probably that was probably their life savings.
	And her plan, her plan, guys, was to um in uh kill her kill her parents and inherit like five hundred thousand dollars, apparently they had more money.
	I'm just reading right now.
	But they had two hundred in the bank.
	Yeah.
	At the time of the death.
	Maybe maybe life's life savings or something like that.
	Sorry, uh life insurance, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so she was planning on inheriting that money and run away with her boyfriend and like buy a house and run away together.
	Yeah, I'm not gonna get caught.
	What an idiot, bro.
	Yeah, that was the main point.
	Stupid.
	All right.
	Let's keep going.
	Talking about women.
	Can't even commit murders properly.
	You stupid.
	Yeah, the delusion is real, man.
	Yeah, stupid.
	All right.
	For your mom and dad.
	Okay, nobody can come in there and do the wrong job.
	Okay?
	Nobody's gonna do that.
	They came, you paid, and they did what they were supposed to do.
	And the plan was for your parents.
	Okay.
	Jen, you have to be honest with me.
	This is the only thing that's in contention here.
	Okay.
	You made the mistake, okay?
	Everybody understands.
	Everybody in this police department feels sorry for you.
	I can tell you that right now.
	Okay?
	Because they've seen what you're going through.
	Okay, so all this tension they put out is basically this is like a volcano.
	All right.
	And at one point it was just too much, and you erupted, okay?
	And you made a bad decision.
	Okay.
	And once you hired this guy, there was no turning back.
	Now in the original story, you said that you hid your cell phone.
	Okay.
	If it was for you, you wouldn't have hid your cell phone.
	That would have never happened.
	So it ain't conflict.
	It's just I I put it there naturally.
	It's what I'm naturally doing.
	But you said on hey, that you hid it there and that they didn't know about it.
	That's your language, not mine, Jen.
	All the ones with so much success out of you, they were not even looking at you as a person.
	They were looking for a success story.
	Instead of just saying whatever Jen wants is what's good for us.
	Whatever she's happy with.
	As long as she's happy in her life, I'm happy with it.
	If she wants to work at East Side Maryland's for the rest of her life, that's fine.
	If she wants to be a piano teacher, that's great.
	If she wants to continue figure screening, that's wonderful.
	Why would somebody shoot someone they didn't have to shoot?
	I don't know.
	I can't figure that out.
	And actually not shoot the person they're supposed to shoot.
	I don't know.
	Why didn't you tell us this that night then?
	Scared of what?
	Telling the truth.
	The good thing about this is your dad did live.
	Oh that went against the plan.
	If you could make this decision over, you would change it.
	Okay.
	You would change it.
	Right?
	Of course.
	Of course I wouldn't.
	Jen, you knew who was gonna get hurt.
	That's the whole issue here.
	Okay, that's the whole issue here.
	You gave them the plan for your parents, right?
	That's all I need to hear.
	No, Jen, tell me what happened.
	Okay.
	All you have to do is here is tell me right now.
	Bill, yes, I made a mistake.
	Oh, yes, I made a mistake.
	This plan was for my parents.
	The detective gets no further admission from this point forward.
	So he leaves Jennifer alone for three minutes to play with her hair before he comes back and charges her with first degree murder.
	Oh shit, here we go.
	Okay.
	I need you to listen close to me, okay, Jen?
	At this point in the investigation, okay.
	I'm going to be arresting you for murder.
	Okay.
	Also attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder.
	Do you understand that?
	Bam.
	Just have to tell me if you understand those charges.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So what we're going to do right now is do you have your own lawyer?
	Oh.
	No?
	Okay.
	Do you have a lawyer you would like to speak to that you know of?
	No.
	Okay.
	Would you like to speak to duty counsel?
	I think I want to talk to someone who can help me and understand.
	Okay, so who would that be?
	I don't know.
	So do you have a I'm sure her parents know some good lawyer.
	Oh, wait, never mind.
	Oh shit.
	That was easy.
	I'm sure her parents know some good lawyers.
	Oh, wait, never mind.
	Oh, he's daddy's alive though.
	Her dad is alive.
	Um, this technique that this uh investigator is applying is called the rate technique.
	And apparently in Canada, uh police is allowed to lie in interrogations.
	Yeah, they are allowed.
	They're allowed to lie.
	Yeah, they're allowed.
	Yeah, they don't have to tell you all everything.
	They can sensationalize and me personally, I didn't really lie to them like that.
	I'll tell them, hey, you're facing this amount of time, blah blah blah, because I think they're trying to get a confession out of them.
	Yeah, but yeah, but you can you can have I know plenty of guys that would lie to Chip, lie to not chip, well, yeah, a lot of girls too, but lie to uh to suspects.
	Yeah, you can lie.
	So uh well, apparently this technique creates like an environment where they can feel comfortable, but then um make them put like put them under like um uh a high amount of pressure so they can like get that the confession.
	So it's way easier for them because they can they are allowed to lie.
	Yeah, but about like it depends.
	Like you can't be like, oh yeah, no, you're not gonna get any time or anything like that.
	Like, no, you can't make promises.
	If you do that, that'll fuck you up.
	Yeah, big.
	Like if you try to make makeup promise, then that'll fuck you up.
	No, but apparently this guy, what he did was that he told her that he um he had like uh the infrared bullshit was yeah, that's yeah, that's uh that's cap, yeah.
	Yeah, like a satellite.
	That's and that's why I always stayed away from like lying about shit like that.
	Because it's like, bro, come on, man.
	Like, but she's a dumb 20-year-old, so he was like, Oh, I can later.
	But like that's why typically I would stay away from lying about dumb shit like that.
	So is that is that something in America too?
	Like um, can like American.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, Canadian and law enforcement, uh, Canadian and America, yeah.
	Like they get like um like American government.
	Makeup shit.
	They can say, Oh, we got this on you, etc.
	They can say, Yo, your friend is snitching, they could do all that.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Yep, they can.
	And here we go.
	It's almost like I am on your side, Jim.
	What would you like to do?
	Stop the cap.
	I don't have any idea with you.
	Do you want me to call duty counsel for you?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Or is there any other lawyer that you would like?
	Okay.
	So at this point you wish to speak to duty counsel then?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	So what I'm gonna have to get you to do is actually empty all your pockets on the table here.
	I'm going to make sure that they are making a call to duty council and we'll line that up and you can speak to the duty council in private, okay?
	We've made a call to duty council, we're waiting for them to call back, okay?
	Need a drink of water or anything?
	What's that?
	Yeah.
	Uh I do have to uh go in and speak to these officers, but I'll come back and speak to you, okay?
	We had to get we gotta take care of the lawyers, okay?
	That's the priority right now.
	Okay.
	The next time Jennifer would see this detective would be when he testified at her trial.
	It began on the 14th of March 2014, and Jennifer pled not guilty to all charges.
	Her interrogation tape was one of the more damning pieces of evidence put forward by the prosecution.
	Yet the most damning were the 116 text messages between her and her boyfriend in the six hours leading up to the murder.
	They thought using burner phones to communicate would cover their tracks.
	Yet forensics were able to uncover the entire discussion just one month after the incident.
	They spoke in detail about how the crime would be carried out, and it was enough to convict them both, as well as each of the intruders who were linked to the crime via DNA evidence and witness testimony.
	They were all found guilty of first degree murder and given a life sentence without the possibility of parole for 25 years.
	Jennifer Pan is now 34 years of age.
	She is currently serving her sentence at the Grand Valley Institution for Women in Kitchener, Ontario.
	She will be first eligible for parole in November of 2035.
	Okay, so that was three years ago.
	L female, man, L daughter L female.
	Uh let's set the chats and close this thing out, man.
	Yo, this that that that case is crazy.
	You hired three dudes pretty much to come in and kill your parents, man, just because you they don't want you to be able to lose your pizza delivery man that fucking sells drugs named Wong.
	Like, come on, man.
	I guess you didn't know Wang and right.
	Boom.
	All right.
	Uh that was a W joke, bro.
	Yeah, well, we got here.
	All right, we got um Hugh Gius Maximus.
	Martin's right about that curry funk.
	I once had to drive a corolla to pick up three Indian men on a 92 degree day for a rental reservation.
	AC only recirculated the funk, so my only option was to speed with the windows open.
	This is like a bro.
	Uh Hunter goes, good evening from Vermont.
	Myron, have you heard of Brian?
	Uh no, we read that one from before.
	I think he had another one though.
	WFNT.
	Myron, what was your favorite case-like series to cover on why?
	Love your concept, brother.
	Uh, I enjoyed the mafia stuff, the 9-11 stuff was also interesting as well.
	Um, and I liked um the Zodiac Killer was really interesting to dig into as well.
	What else do we got here?
	Um Kuma goes, normally I'm a fan, but you said the most uh retarded shit last night when you were bashing America despite the fact this nation helped I can't read the rest more.
	It's right there.
	This nation helped you get rich.
	Uh where we are here?
	Down, down, down.
	No, there.
	Oh, yes, yes, it's good.
	That one.
	Okay, I'll read it from the beginning.
	Okay.
	Normally a fan, but you said the most retarded shit last night when you were bashing America, despite the fact this nation helped you get rich.
	Uh move to a communist China if it sucks here.
	Don't act like Miami uh doesn't have problems as well.
	I live there.
	When did I bash the country?
	The fuck are you talking about, dude?
	Like, yo, what like no one like the like you bash the US?
	I didn't.
	I probably said that because I've said it before.
	I've said that the American America has its problems, all the first world countries have their problems, but the United States is the best house in a shitty neighborhood.
	So obviously I'll be critical of some of the things that we've done in the United States, but I've said a million times that this is the best country in the world.
	Gave my family an opportunity.
	I worked for the country, I put my life on the line for this fucking country.
	So I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, Uma, but fuck you.
	And fuck and uh fuck your chat as well, you motherfucker.
	I've never said anything like where oh I hate the United States or any of that other bullshit, man.
	What the fuck are you talking about?
	I've served this country proudly for most of my adult life.
	For over half my life for this point, yeah, a good portion of my life.
	Ten years I worked for the government.
	So fuck you, dude.
	Done more for this country than you have, asshole.
	I could be critical of the country, but at the end of the day, I've said it a million times.
	The United States is by far the best house in a shitty neighborhood because yeah, a lot of other places suck, but we're better than the UK, we're better than Canada, we're better than these lot of these places.
	So fuck you, man.
	Uh what do we got here?
	We got Hunter.
	Uh evening from Vermont.
	Myron, what was your most memorable experience last case to work on when you were fed and why?
	Also, shout out to Mo.
	You're a big inspiration for many people to of your size.
	Keto brother, proud of you.
	Looking forward to seeing you shredded.
	Um, my favorite case that I covered, guys.
	Um, I got a couple.
	I had I had a really big drug case that I covered uh when I was on the job, which I will I promise I'll give you all that one here on Fed Reacts one day.
	Uh that was like my first organized crime drug enforcement task force case.
	Uh there was some racketeering and stuff like that in it as well.
	And then I enjoyed um a case that I did when I was in Miami, which is that one I did with Canada.
	I told you guys about with the Sri Lankan human smuggling.
	Uh that case actually got me uh director, the director's award for Department of Homeland Security.
	So uh that was good.
	That was that was really good time.
	Tracy B. But yeah, if that guy can rem tell me when specifically I said anything bashed in the United States, I don't know what he's talking about.
	So go ahead and follow up, dude.
	If you got something to say.
	But me being critical of the United States and bash the United States are two different things.
	Uh I've said a million times that this is the best country in the world.
	So, like, bro.
	Anyway, whatever.
	Where we are here?
	Tracy B. BTK is under investigation for a missing person in Northeast Oklahoma.
	He apparently left notes in his journal about her and a laundromat.
	Also love watching all your videos.
	Thanks for the great content.
	Yes, I did hear about BTK being re-under investigation for uh someone else that he m uh murdered.
	Uh if it ends up being anything interesting, we'll cover that for y'all.
	Uh, as you guys know, we already did BTK, uh aka Dennis Rader.
	Uh uh stands for buying torture and kill, went crazy in the 1970s, killing women out in the Wichita, Kansas area.
	Yeah, we ended up catching him uh later on in like 2004-2005 with DNA through his daughter, which is fucking crazy.
	We talked about it.
	Yeah, it's busting nuts on crime scenes.
	Yeah.
	So they uh had his DNA and then they were able to link him through his daughter after she went to the doctor.
	I think she went to like go get a S T D check or something like that at the clinic at her university at the University of Kansas.
	And uh they matched up his DNA, her DNA to his uh from that crime scene back in the 70s, And bam, they fucking got him, bro.
	Gotcha, bitch.
	Crazy him and the golden state killer, two killers that got caught like 30 30 years later, uh, via DNA.
	Wild.
	Yeah.
	Bro, wild.
	I do believe that we're gonna get more serial killers in the future.
	Nah.
	Because of the DNS.
	Oh, you mean catch more.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Um, yeah, because they all went the the the heyday for serial killers was like the 60s all the way up into the 90s.
	The 70s was the most by far.
	Yeah, but uh yeah, there's yeah, but went crazy, but eight days kind of crazy.
	Yeah, that was that was their that was their grand time, bro.
	I mean, if you think about it, dude.
	John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, the 44 killer, aka the son of Sam.
	Um Gary Rachway, Gary Ridgway, the Zodiac killer, the golden stake killer, the goal estate killer.
	Um Ed Kemper.
	Uh Little uh Samuel Little, Ed Camper, um, who else?
	Jesus, you got nothing.
	I got I got so far eight already.
	Um there's more.
	There's more.
	I had a whole uh in C Club.
	No, but I'm thinking of the 1970s.
	Yeah.
	Only 1970s.
	The torso killer, that's nine.
	We haven't covered him yet, but I will cover him for y'all.
	When was Jack the Ripper?
	Oh, that was 1800.
	That was a long time ago.
	That was yeah.
	Um that's nine.
	Oh, uh BTK.
	He was going around in the 70s.
	That's 10 right there.
	Yeah.
	10 series, bro.
	The United States in the 1970s was crazy.
	All the top serial killers were killing people in the 1970s.
	Could you imagine?
	And the mafia was going wild too.
	Don't mind, don't forget that Locosa Nosha was at the height of their power at this point.
	Yeah.
	So the 1970s.
	Oh man.
	Charles Manson, too.
	Charles Manson was going crazy in the 70s.
	Bro, what a dark era.
	Joan Wayne Gacy.
	And you had like the worst president office.
	Inflation was at its highest.
	You had freaking uh Richard Nixon and you had uh Jimmy Carter in office, Watergate scandal, bro.
	Holy Jim Jones.
	We're gonna cover Jim Jones, you guys.
	That was also in the 70s.
	Yo, shout out to Antonio 13642.
	Yo, shout out to you, my friend.
	Come on, put it up.
	I'll put it on.
	16 year old border patrol agent, 10 years landlord wife is OFO, and we sit here together and watch this like it's a family night after the kids go to bed, LOL Sunny love him.
	He goes, Yo, thank you so much, bro.
	Yeah, shout out to the blue line, man.
	His uh wife works for CB OFO guys as the Office of Field Operations, Customs and Border Protection, and um obviously Border Patrol, shout out to y'all, man.
	I worked very, very closely with Border Patrol and OFO when I was on the job.
	Uh I was in the human smuggling group, so anytime they caught anything, uh border patrol, they'd call us.
	Shout out to you, Antonio.
	Yeah, shout out to you, bro.
	I really appreciate that.
	Thank you for supporting us and supporting Rumble, uh, the platform for free speech, my friend, and thank you for your service.
	Shout out to all the border patrol agents.
	It's a very difficult job, man.
	Very, very difficult job.
	Uh being out there in the brush, laying in uh, you know, uh chasing after uh a bunch of migrants because it'll be like a group of 30 of them when you arrest them.
	It's like, yo, and it's very dangerous out there because a lot of times you're out there by yourself sometimes, or you're out there with limited backup, um, and it's out there in the middle of nowhere, man.
	So they work a very dangerous, dangerous job, very dangerous job.
	So uh shout out to all the BP agents out there, man.
	Um and they make good money too, man.
	It's a good, it's a fantastic career to start with.
	Um little dirty secret for y'all, border patrol agents can easily make more than special agents.
	Easily, yeah.
	Uh customs of border protection uh OFO as well, because um you get night differential with CBP OFO, you get overtime.
	Um you get the um weekend pay, holiday pay, all that stuff.
	Um as a f as a special agent, that you really don't get those things because you get leap, law enforcement availability pay, which is already built in 25% into your salary, as a BP agent or OFO, uh, you get all those extra things when you work shifts.
	Because you don't work shifts when you do uh when you're a special agent, whether it's FBI, DEA, whatever.
	So you can easily like rack in the dough working for these other agencies, uh OFO and Border Patrol, you know.
	So that's pretty good.
	Yeah.
	The thing is is that they're not investigators.
	So they have like their intel people and stuff like that, but they don't actually do like the chrome investigations.
	So but you can actually make quite a bit of money doing uh the uniform side.
	Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No one talks about that, but they can absolutely make more, bro.
	Uh Tay Punk.
	It's more hours, but yeah.
	Tay Punk from Streamlabs.
	Uh Tay Punk goes, if Jennifer Pan ever releases it with uh which is 2035, Diswasher position will be available.
	All right, shout out to you, Topunk.
	You're gonna hire her, bro?
	She might kill you too.
	Uh or hire some shelakas to kill you.
	Uh Hunter Troy goes, uh Myron, not to get you in trouble here, but is the best way to commit murder using the sharp icicle since it melts?
	Would they still be able to collect DNA?
	And no, I'm not a serial killer, just gener uh generally curious.
	What is it?
	FBI open up.
	I I guess the sharp icicle will he's saying if you stab someone with a sharp icicle, because it'll melt.
	I don't know what that is.
	A sharp icicle like ice that's sharp.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	Yeah.
	Uh I guess, but just make sure you don't have a phone on you, like dumbass YW Melly.
	You know what I mean?
	That's that's how they're catching so many people, man.
	That geolocation data be cat pull people at the cris crime scenes.
	Uh but don't kill anybody, bro, please.
	Yeah, don't kill people.
	People stop killing people.
	Yeah, he's in Vermont, so who knows.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, he's probably looking in the woods right now at a camp.
	Watching some uh unsuspecting people, okay.
	I watch the Fed Reacts.
	Okay, I got this ice school.
	Can I do this?
	Oh, okay, nice.
	I can do it.
	I just oh damn it, I got the phone.
	Fuck!
	Man, even the beauty.
	Now you know I know this dude.
	Yeah, yeah.
	All right, are we ready?
	Uh what else do we got here?
	We have and big up again, Antonio.
	Uh uh, NSA goes, Jennifer Pan, nah, Jennifer Rand from Accountability Wire and bless me with that beautiful rumble mod badge.
	Shout out to you, uh, NSA.
	Uh yeah, we'll give you a mod badge.
	Uh Puffy Waffie goes, we'll be getting a Mexican cartel breakdown soon.
	Also, W Fed Reacts y'all blessing us with the content.
	Yes, I will.
	Uh Mexican Cartels and the Columbia Cartels.
	That's gonna be a series, guys.
	So, as you guys know, with the mafia, we did a whole series.
	So I uh that's gonna take time because I'm gonna have to do it all the way.
	I'm gonna do Chapo, then I'm gonna do, you know, the Zettas and then Cinelo, like yeah, it's gonna be a whole lot.
	Yeah, because once I go into like uh uh a series like that, whether it's 9-11 or Italian mafia, y'all are gonna hear it for a month.
	Yeah.
	All right, what else do we got here?
	Um Do you see Tori's mugshot?
	Free Tori.
	Yeah, man.
	Sucks with Tori Lanez.
	What's going on with him?
	Does Angie ever get harassed at her job?
	Um, well, in my old job, the girls didn't like me because I sometimes I will wear the fresh a fit shirt.
	Yeah.
	She was a hostess um at two spots.
	No.
	I was a hostess at a nightclub, but then I left and then now was working as a hookah girl at a bar.
	Um, well, it was a restaurant, sports bar.
	Spoil blonde, you guys know it.
	Yeah, I went there.
	Um, and um the girls didn't like me.
	Though there was also a girl that dated Myron, and she hated him, of course.
	And she hated it.
	That was easy.
	I don't know why.
	I just asked her to come on the show and she was like all pissed.
	Myron Games.
	Fuck him.
	You can tell him to fuck him.
	And I was like, Oh right.
	And then now you're waitressing.
	And now, yeah, I'm working as a servant, um, an American social.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	And uh there is a guy that recognizes.
	You're trying to say you're a bartender, the fucking haters.
	Uh no, I don't know.
	It's a hard to bartend.
	Yeah.
	She's a waitress, guys.
	Server, well, server, whatever.
	Yeah.
	Um, it's pretty cool.
	I really like my job.
	It's pretty fun.
	Um, there was a guy that actually recognized me um once.
	He said he was a big fan of Myron.
	He was sleeping.
	He was like, uh, Angie Gaines.
	And I was like, oh my god.
	No, stop.
	Don't call me that.
	Well, now that now they know where you work, so they're gonna be there.
	Yeah.
	So leave her a tip, guys.
	Helps me out, so I don't gotta pay as much.
	No, just kidding.
	I've got a support.
	No, I think that's what you sound like right now, bro.
	Uh let me move on.
	I'm in it.
	Hey, man, she wants to work, so you know, Angie's not lazy, so it is what it is.
	I told her she didn't have to, but she wants to, so it is what it is, man.
	Uh so Hunter.
	Hunter goes, uh Myron, by the way, dad has 280 acres of land with four uh wheeler trails and hunting uh oh shit.
	Uh I got it.
	Hunting shacks.
	Oh, hunting shacks, etc.
	Very peaceful here.
	If you ever wanted to go hunting, you're more than welcome to have a deer camp as well.
	Uh if shit goes south in the US, I can live off deer.
	Fair enough, my friend.
	Live off the land.
	Uh what else do we got here?
	Uh she like foe, you detective.
	You don't know me.
	Foo you detective, you don't know me.
	Yeah, got you.
	Uh y'all.
	Johnny Silveran.
	She again, Korean barbecued in there.
	You mean Vietnamese barbecued?
	Louis Locke goes, first ever rant sending support from the Bay Area, working every day to be that guy to not female fuckery.
	W Fresh of Fit W Mo W My Iron's Girl.
	Shout out to you, Louis Locke.
	I appreciate that.
	Johnny Silverhand goes, the other suspect's name.
	Some Ting Wong.
	Holy fuck.
	Bing Bang Bing Ow.
	White Light to Ma.
	Why do I?
	Yeah, you guys are fucking.
	I should have known that the Asian jokes were gonna be coming in full fledged with this episode.
	Yeah, man.
	FNF should start in OnlyFans and put the most uncensored videos on it, then put um uh uh uh More than Meets the Eye.
	Oh, okay.
	And when they get banned, accuse only fans of more than meets the eye phobia.
	Oh, to force them into allowing you all.
	Nah, man, we ain't never gonna be on OnlyFans.
	We've gotten a million offers, but nah, man.
	HORY shit from Doge Poster.
	Doge shit poster.
	Uh again, damn you Mongolian.
	Stop breaking my shitty wall.
	Oh my god, bro.
	He was just we just finished Washing South Park, I guess.
	The sketch artist did her 30.
	Yo, with the big ass forehead.
	Okay.
	Uh color goes quasimoto hunched back looking ass in that drawing.
	Okay.
	I knew they was gonna go in, bro.
	Oh my god.
	Uh what's better to make for the food stream?
	Tufe legume, tamales, or arepas?
	Uh I think sandwiches or arepas.
	Man, definitely legume, but I gotta represent for my people, you know what I'm saying?
	Legume.
	Oh, that's oh, that's Haitian food.
	Yeah, that's Haitian food.
	We'll make a repasm.
	But we gotta make we gotta make legume.
	But y'all niggas got food.
	I thought you guys, I thought your your cuisine would be like a hot bowl of nothing.
	I don't know what we are on YouTube.
	I probably shouldn't have made that joke here.
	Can we elevator yet?
	No, we can't.
	Oh yeah, we can't find reacts.
	Damn.
	Well the racism is so bad.
	Like, I didn't even like I just this thought, I was like, damn, okay.
	Oh well.
	Guys, we get canceled.
	It was good knowing y'all.
	That was so funny though.
	Yeah.
	Oh my god.
	Yeah.
	Not even Mo is laughing.
	Yeah, well.
	He likes racism only when it's not towards Haiti.
	Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	Wait a minute.
	You're right.
	Yeah.
	Alright, what else do we got here?
	If you made that joke to it, it's what I would have laughed too.
	Uh the sketch artist was a diversity hire.
	Okay.
	I would never let Venezuela date my people too.
	Uh I got I got in-laws over there.
	Uh, I'm worried about the U.S. too, but Martin is right.
	What are the beacons of freedom here?
	It is at risk, but we are the best in the world.
	I still serve it.
	Shout out to you, Antonio.
	Yeah, absolutely, bro.
	We're still the best uh best uh best country.
	Uh and thank you again, uh Antonio.
	I'll give you another down the market crap from before.
	Y'all demonstrated.
	Huggins Maximus goes, I'm with Big Mo on this one.
	Haitian food is legit, but watch just watch the carbs.
	Okay, y'all do got a cuisine.
	All right.
	Oh god, that was a hot bowl of nothing.
	We got one of the best cuisines in the world.
	I gotta I gotta represent from our people in Haiti, you know, saying later.
	So I'm all so fat.
	Turkey Tassa.
	Yeah, that's exactly what I'd be talking.
	Yo, big.
	I guess it is good.
	Yeah, yo, people would be like, yo, Mo, how did you get so damn big in the first place?
	The first thing I was like, yo, Haitian food is very extremely delicious, bro.
	On God, bro.
	I was just telling Angie that the other day.
	Fair.
	On God, bro.
	Uh, what's the last one here?
	The last one.
	If it's 304 getting murdered, they're gonna have the whole task force is trying to identify all the DNA they got inside them.
	Oh my god, bro.
	This guy.
	Uh, and then would y'all ever cover Chicago Talona murders?
	Has that come across your list?
	Wait, Chicago.
	Yes, yes, Chicago Talana murders.
	Yes, you guys keep asking for that.
	Yes, we we should cover them.
	Okay.
	Um, cool.
	Guys, uh this one was a short and sweet one.
	Uh hope you guys enjoyed it.
	Uh Mo, you got anything for the people, Angie, before we close out.
	There are some more other um chats, I think.
	Oh, there are?
	Yeah.
	Like super.
	Well, it just came in.
	Okay.
	I like Rumble, I think.
	Guys, it's honestly a blessing that y'all support us so much, man.
	Thank you so much.
	Like I said, I've always said it, you guys don't have to donate a dollar.
	Um, but you guys do, and you don't have to, and I really appreciate that, especially after us getting demonetized.
	So, you know, whether you uh, you know, the real way to help, the best way to help is castle club.tv and uh super chatting in.
	Uh, and you guys are doing that, so thank you so much.
	Uh Myron, do you encourage Angie to carry a firearm?
	Yes.
	No, I do.
	Um, once we get her uh situation squared, we're gonna yeah, she's gonna have to carry a gun.
	No, I don't wanna carry a g I have a gun.
	Because she feels very uncomfortable when she's not with me.
	And I get the people harass her and shit, so yeah.
	And she's small, so uh so yeah, she's absolutely gonna carry a gun, whether she likes it or not.
	In the future, once we get her, you know, she's we gotta situate her stuff.
	I don't want to have a gun, but I have my taser.
	That's not enough.
	That ain't enough.
	It's not enough, Angie.
	You like a hundred pounds, bro.
	Uh 100 eleven.
	1001.
	See?
	Uh okay, where are we at here?
	Oh, no, uh, nah, the sketch artist didn't do it wrong.
	Genetics did.
	I prefer Latinas and Asians, but when they look like her, no, thank you.
	She didn't even get she didn't she didn't even have a prime.
	Damn.
	Yeah?
	I'm hitting them.
	Lion Lion uh definitely fucks up your um your look.
	Wendy goes, I'm surprised Myron is wearing something other than Fresh Fit Merch.
	Did Angie start picking your outfits?
	Yes.
	Did you buy me this?
	Yes, man.
	Throw it away.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Well, I went to the gym earlier and I was and I didn't.
	And got it from the gym.
	Yeah.
	Uh Dr. Durgeon Digital dirt cookies.
	Appreciate that.
	Uh uh fuck you talking about said carry a knife.
	You're a woman, you can't you you can get close.
	That's true, man.
	But guys, I couldn't- I'll be I'd be Courtney Clenty.
	Yeah.
	Yo, Gordon Clenny is the fucking dumbest criminal ever.
	Yo, you know what she told the detectives?
	This is OnlyFans bitch.
	Yeah.
	Yo, this is what she said.
	So her boyfriend, right?
	The one that she stabbed is right up the street, Mo.
	You know what I'm talking about, right?
	The only fans model that stabbed their boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	That killed it.
	The blondie?
	The title bitch, right?
	Yeah.
	So she told the police, bro, and we covered this on our thing.
	Guys, go watch it on f uh uh on Fed Reacts on YouTube.
	Um, she uh timestamps are there and everything.
	That was like a longer broadcast.
	It was one of my favorite ones we did though.
	It was this one.
	Yeah.
	So she said that she uh that she threw the knife at him, yeah, and it just happened to land here in his artery and kill him.
	Yeah.
	And bro, even uh MLB pitcher wouldn't have been able to throw a knife with that level of force where it punctured him as deep as it did.
	She tried to say she threw it.
	No, it's oh, I just like kind of flung it like this is what she told the detective.
	Bro, who she thinks she's scorpion?
	She's an idiot, dude.
	And then when they actually like looked at the the um when they did the autopsy, they saw they saw that the knife was like four inches in.
	Yeah, that's how I was able to pierce their artery and he blood to death.
	She literally was she was being interrogated.
	She literally was like Yeah, that's what she did with the Miami detectives.
	That's all the video.
	Fucking idiot, bro.
	These female murderers be the worst, bro.
	They be capping.
	They they be trying to yopp the cat.
	They be doing their delusion with the cr with like the crime.
	Like Casey Anthony, Jody Arias, like watch those episodes, guys with these females, and you guys are gonna laugh at like the shit they say during the interviews.
	It's literally hilarious.
	Like they're way more delusional than the male criminals.
	Like the male criminals are like, either they don't talk, or if they do confess, they're like, alright, this is kind of what I did, blah blah blah.
	But they never say some whack shit, like, oh yeah, I just like flung the knife like this, and it just so happened to fucking stab them and be like four inches in.
	Crazy, dude.
	Crazy.
	I'd be watching I remember who was it?
	Was it Jody Arias or was it the um suitcase chick?
	I literally screamed at the TV during the show.
	I was like, ah!
	Ah, yeah, yeah.
	Like, what the hell?
	The suitcase could be a good one.
	It was a suitcase girl, right?
	Watch that up so, guys.
	Um, um the suitcase girl that like killed her boyfriend by locking him in a suitcase.
	Bro, one of the most illusional girls ever.
	I felt like I was doing a fresh fit pod.
	The only problem is that I wasn't in control.
	Now I felt I feel how you niggas feel when you watch the show.
	Like scriminating TV, you know?
	Like, what the fuck, man?
	And the girls in the BTS in the back, they they were just doing that the other day.
	Oh, they were Audrey and Abby.
	Like, shut up.
	Oh my god.
	Mo, I wanna just switch.
	That's why I don't like being here for fresh feet anymore.
	It's just so frustrating.
	So frustrating.
	Yeah, bro.
	Not now y'all know how it's like to being being a man dealing with women, bro.
	I got to see what it was like being the viewer for a second.
	I'm like the detective, like, ah, how do you like deal with this, man?
	All right.
	Don't sh uh shit poster goes, Asian girls have horizontal pussies to match their eyes.
	Okay.
	You guys on Rumble got no chill, man.
	Shit's hilarious.
	Uh then we got Big Mo.
	If restaurant decide to make a sandwich based on your name, what will your ingredients of choice be your ingredients of choice?
	Whoa.
	Hmm.
	I'd probably say like maybe uh the turkey tassel as like the meat and um and a Venezuelan arepa.
	Like better than the Colombian one.
	I actually actually like the secret I actually like Venezuelan lepros a lot better.
	I got you.
	Colombian nervous are not really a rip as Mario.
	You should know this by now.
	I don't know.
	Oh here.
	Oh yeah.
	What is it?
	Fried bread or something?
	No, man.
	this is it's not I'm already I'm already I'm already I'm already paciencia Man, my demon.
	Let's keep going.
	They might too, man.
	Just say I got I got in-laws out there.
	You'll say that because you haven't tried proper ripas.
	Every time I try to make this man are repas, he's always like, no, too many carbs.
	I mean, he's right.
	I can make a ripples with oatmeal, and they're amazing.
	Ooh.
	With oatmeal?
	Yeah.
	Ooh, oat oatmeal um flour.
	Healthier ripas, fitness rippers.
	Ooh.
	Yeah, as long as it's not fried.
	Ooh, W. Our scan beef fried or like all the rapers I've ever seen are all fried.
	Air fried.
	No.
	No, all our represents.
	What kind of episode are you guys eating?
	What kind of ripples are you guys eating?
	Really?
	Are ebbas are like a great breakfast and dinner.
	This Doge shit poster guy just keeps saying racist shit.
	It's funny.
	I ate a Japanese girl out in Tokyo.
	Her pussy tasted like sushi.
	Alright.
	At least you got some protein in.
	Doge poster.
	We have those here in the future of 277.
	Give a whole other angle to hitting it.
	Alright.
	He's still referencing the cyberpunk video game 2077.
	Okay, okay.
	Alright, are we caught up, Mo?
	Yeah, it looks like that's everything.
	Guys, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode, man.
	We'll be back tomorrow for a call-in show on Friday.
	Um, where we'll you're gonna give y'all some sauce, man, and you guys can call in and hate or ask questions or whatever it may be.
	I really do enjoy those calling shows where I get to like to actually talk to y'all.
	And uh we'll be back at 6 p.m. tomorrow, guys.
	Um follow Fed Reacts on Instagram.
	Umg manages as you guys know.
	Yes, um I'll make a poll for you guys for Sunday because you guys drop a lot of um.
	Oh, yeah.
	We need something for Sunday, yeah.
	Yes, uh that you guys drop a lot of uh cases, but I think we'll we should do Alcatraz um the escape prison, the prison screen.
	Alcatres Prison Escape, yeah.
	There's been a bunch of them though.
	The the one in the 1920s or when?
	Uh 1920s?
	No, I think this is the last one.
	Okay.
	All right, well, I'll we'll look into it.
	But guys, we'll be back tomorrow for Fresh Effit, and we'll catch you guys on the next episode of Fed Reacts on Sunday, and then we got uh Fresh Fred tomorrow at 6 p.m.
	Love you guys.
	Thank you so much for the support shout.
	Big special shout out to Antonio.
	Shout out to the Bottom Show to the Muslims of Modern Protection Office of Field Operations, man.
	Shout out to whole DHS.
	Uh the guys that are keeping us safe for real from all the bullshit.
	And we'll catch you guys on the next episode.
	Peace.
	I'm a special agent with Homeland Screw investigations, okay, guys?
	H S is what Fed Reacts covers.

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