We're going to be covering the Charles Manson family and murders.
We got a lot to cover on this one, man.
It's going to be wild.
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What's up, guys?
Welcome to Fed Reacts, man.
Sorry for the delay, guys.
I had to reset my mixer.
It was like messed up or whatever.
But I'm glad I caught it because if I'd started, we wouldn't have had audio and everything would have been messed up.
And y'all would have been like, oh, Myron, and all this other stuff.
So I got a special guest with me, though.
As you guys know, Angie's in the house.
Hi, guys.
What's up?
As you guys requested, we are covering Charles Manson.
It was the most requested one in the poll that I made last week.
I met a poll of you guys dropping your cases and then I made like the whole thing, like the voting thing.
And you guys requested this one.
So this is for you guys.
I hope you like it.
Yes.
If it weren't for her, you guys, I'd probably be doing another case.
I'm not going to lie.
I was not planning to do Charles Manson, but when she showed me the poll results, I was like, okay, it's very irrefutable now that we have to do this.
It's been a while.
And the reason why, guys, like some people I kind of hold back on because I'm like, all right, we're going to have to really research this one.
We're going to have to make sure we have everything, you know, done right and you know, T's crossed, I's dotted because there's a lot of conspiracy theories that are also around Manson.
I know people say that he was a CIA asset and everything else like that.
And we'll touch on that slightly as well.
But yeah, anytime you get into like these larger-than-life serial killers, you got to cover it correctly.
So let's see here.
I mean, you're always going to have your haters, right?
I remember when I did the Son of Sam one, everyone was like, oh, bro, it was just him, bro, with Sala.
There wasn't other shooters.
And it's like, bro, from the evidence shown, eyewitness testimony, et cetera.
And just like the way the murders were done, there's no way he did it by himself.
There were other sons of Sam.
Like, it is what it is.
I know people were like, the cool theory is BS.
Fine.
You want to say the cool theory is BS?
Okay, whatever.
But it's almost irrefutable that he had other people helping him because there are witnesses that put him in one location.
However, the shooting was going down in another location.
Then you had other eyewitnesses that were describing other individuals that didn't look anything at all like David Berkowitz, blonde-haired.
One person identified a female.
Like, bro, he didn't act alone.
But again, you're always going to get the people, the conspiracy theorists that come out there.
It's like, no, bro, you don't know what you're talking about.
No, it was only David Berkowitz acting alone.
Or if I talk about, you know, John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy, I get a bunch of, you know, never fails.
I get DMs and messages, bro, you forgot this.
And I'm like, bro, it's not that important.
What, you know, this little tidbit of information.
So anytime you cover people like this that are super famous, you're always going to have people that complain and want to revise this and revise that.
Like, well, actually, it was 37 murders, not 35.
You know what I mean?
Like, shit like that.
So anyway, chats real fast.
Kung Lee goes, hey, Marin, thank you for all you do for us.
Just wondering when you're going to drop the Kiki Kamarena case.
I will do that one.
That's in the Mexico Cartels.
What was that?
Yes, when we do Mexican cartels, that will cover.
I'm also going to do Jaime Zabata.
I'm trying to do something special for y'all.
I'm trying to get one of my former colleagues that I worked with very closely.
He was best friends with Jaime Zabata.
So, and he knows the real story of what went down because I ain't gonna lie to y'all, bro.
There's a bunch of stuff behind the scenes, guys, that a lot of people don't know about the Jaime Sabati case.
You guys might be wondering who's Jaime Sabata.
That's the HCI special agent that was killed in Mexico back in 2011.
Rest in peace to him.
I actually worked in the same field office as him in Laredo, Texas.
And I worked alongside a lot of his close friends.
And I got a lot of insights into what really went down with that whole situation in Mexico.
And I was going to bring one of his best friends to talk about it.
But he's on the job, guys.
So if I do it, you know, we're going to have to do the whole thing.
No camera.
I'm probably going to have to alter his voice.
I don't know if I'm going to do it live.
You know, I'm gonna have to, you know, I gotta protect the identity of people that I used to work with.
You know what I mean?
And I've talked with a couple of my friends that I used to work with.
My FBI friend, my one of my good friends from ATF.
So, you know, if I bring these guys on, I, you know, they can't be on camera.
I'm just gonna have to be honest with y'all.
They're still on the job.
They're still doing active cases.
Some of them even do undercover in really dangerous situations, like really wild stuff.
So, yeah, but I will do Kiki Camerona.
Don't worry.
I got y'all.
We got here.
Mike Worth goes, have you considered Dr. Death slash Jack Kivorkian?
That's a new one.
No.
Has that come up on the list?
No.
And you guys, I'm going to prioritize the requests here in the super chats and the ones that you guys drop on the Instagram.
Okay.
Because I'll be doing this post-weekly.
So I need you guys to follow the Instagram at FredReact so you can drop your cases there.
And yeah, I'll be following the most requested ones.
Okay.
Cool.
All right.
We got Border Patrol.
Myron, come back, bro.
We miss you.
Oh, man.
Okay.
One day.
Friday.
Well, if they take me back, they probably never will.
Friday stream was legit.
Love diverse content.
Nick definitely got the N-word pass.
Also, LDS people don't have multiple wives.
WFed it.
Yeah, bro.
I mean, a lot of people, Nick is very misunderstood.
A lot of the things they say about him, and that's from Lyskin Graper.
A lot of things they say about Nick just simply aren't true.
The white supremacist and you know, it was very funny.
All this other crap.
Like, it's not true, bro.
He's he's not for race mixing, but that doesn't necessarily think that that doesn't necessarily mean that he thinks white people are better than everybody else.
I mean, he said himself that Asians have the highest IQ on average.
So I don't think he's a white supremacist.
I think he's a guy that has his beliefs.
He wants, you know, white people to get with white people.
And that's totally cool because at the end of the day, we, you know, minorities always say, oh, yeah, get with your own race.
You know, Asians say, get with your own race.
Hispanics say it all the time.
Blacks say it all the time.
Hey, get yourself a black woman.
Cool.
I think white people should be able to do the same.
That's all I'm saying.
Myron Bigsby.
Oh, my God.
Oh, Lord.
All right.
He who would have liked must fight.
He who doesn't wish to fight in this world where permanent struggle is the law of life has not the right to exist.
All right.
Shout out to you, Myron Bigsby.
I appreciate you, man.
Suddenly, I'll get my dark humor.
It's crazy to me how many soft people there are that like literally get mad at the whole Myron Bigsby angle that I do.
They really be getting in their feelings, but whatever.
Fresh dog goes, Angie, looking like she's going to curse your descendants and they're going to end up digging holes in the desert.
Fair enough.
The Jizzler goes, Great stream on Friday, Myron.
W tweet today by FNF.
WFNF, because you guys, and God, I've kept a beautiful woman as my girlfriend for the last six months.
Good stuff, my friend.
Yeah, man.
You got to let her know what time it is, man.
Shout out to Jonah Hill letting his bitch know.
Like, yo, man, like, that is not acceptable.
But she's over here acting crazy.
We'll talk about it probably tomorrow.
I'm going to have tomorrow, guys.
We're going to have Destiny, Zerka, Nick Fuentes, and Sneeko.
I think Zerka is going to jump on a plane and come over this way.
But bare minimum, I'm going to have Nick and Destiny here and probably Sneeko.
So it'll be a good stream tomorrow.
We'll talk about a bunch of different topics.
Them boys, CIA, goes, Angie, you better be super submissive to Myron, or we are coming for you.
Okay, fair enough.
Big Mo, how you pay for hair and always wear a hoodie?
All right, Touche.
It's kind of cold in here.
Shout out, New Mexico Boy, part-time living, expat style, and Medellin.
All right.
Shout out to you, my friend.
I'll be there in a couple weeks.
It's Sunday.
You know what that means.
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I appreciate that greatly.
Camino Kiel goes, Myron, you should look into the Sherry Papini case.
Could even be a great topic for FNF.
So many RP truths in that story.
Okay.
We could write that one down.
Richard Cunningham.
Yeah.
I will.
Okay.
Yeah, that's the torso killer.
I've been meaning to do him for a while too, Angie.
If you could write that one down.
I have that one.
You do have Richard Cunningham.
Okay, yeah.
This one, his dude was going crazy.
He was killing chicks in Times Square and stuff and leaving their bodies in the hotels and stuff and setting on fire.
Yeah, I will do him.
Don't worry.
He's a wild serial killer.
You heard about Jonah Hill, W guy with the mustache.
Yeah, no, I did hear about Jonah Hill, man.
You know, he'll be one of them boys, right?
Is he?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Let me look it up.
Oh, man.
I'm pretty sure he is.
Okay, look it up.
Go ahead.
See, Angie has her Dem Boys radar too now.
Yeah.
Facts.
Speaking of which, by the way, guys, I'm drinking my Gorilla Mind Energy drink.
Shout out to them.
Shout out to Derek for more plates, more dates.
If you guys want to go ahead and yeah, if you guys want to go ahead and get what's it called?
A discount?
Just type in fresh at your checkout anytime you get girl money.
His last name is Felstein.
Felstein.
Oh, oh, yeah, definitely.
All right.
Fair enough.
All right.
Welcome.
The lights are still on.
We didn't get canceled yet.
So I guess we could talk about Charles Manson.
Guys, today's topic, we're going to be talking about Charles Manson.
You guys have been requesting this one for a bit.
And yeah, without further ado, let's kind of just get right into it here.
This guy is crazy.
Charles Manson, Charles Miles Manson, born November 12, 1934, died November 19th, 2017, was an American criminal and musician who led the Manson family, a cult based in California in the late 1960s.
Some of the members committed a series of at least nine murders at four locations in July and August, 1969.
In July, sorry, in 1971, Manson was convicted of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder for the deaths of seven people, including the film actress Sharon Tate.
Okay.
The prosecution contended that while Manson never directly ordered the murders, his ideology constituted an overt act of the conspiracy.
Now, give me a ones in the chat if you guys want me to explain how conspiracy works in a legal sense.
Give me ones in the chat.
If you guys don't, we'll just give me twos and then we'll keep pushing here.
Yes, once, because I want to hear that.
All right, well, let's see what the people say because I can always tell you after the show.
Let's see what the people say.
If you guys want me to explain it, I will.
But if not, I will.
Yeah, it's mostly one.
Yay.
Okay.
So, guys, a conspiracy from a legal sense is basically an agreement, okay, to commit a crime by two or more persons followed by what is called an overt act, okay?
Which is right here, okay?
An overt act of the conspiracy.
So, for example, let's say me and Angie, Mo, Chris, and Fresh, decide to rob a bank, right?
And Nick Fuentes, and we all get white hoods and decide to go rob the bank.
Well, watch all the snowflakes go fucking crazy in here, right?
And we decide to rob a bank, right?
And we buy the hoods and we get a rental car.
Someone buys gloves, et cetera, right?
And the police stop us before we actually hit the bank.
And they find the gloves, they find the guns, they find the hoods, etc.
And what ends up happening is we go to jail and we get hit with conspiracy.
Why?
Because we took overt acts and furtherance of the conspiracy, whether it's buying gloves, getting a rental car, driving to the location.
All of these things could be constituted as an overt act and furtherance of the conspiracy.
Okay, guys, you don't have to actually successfully commit the act, but doing things to further it count towards conspiracy.
Okay, guys, that is conspiracy.
So we're going to go ahead and react to this documentary here that I got.
Okay.
And there's a bunch of other things going on as well that we're going to cover.
But yeah, man, this was some wild stuff.
Do you have anything, Angie, before we do have to say that this case is very extensive?
I didn't watch this documentary.
I watched some others and some interviews and stuff.
And yeah, I'll be covering up if we, you know.
Yeah, if there's anything missing, we'll definitely fill in gaps.
I want to say this, like there are mainly two theories in this case.
Whatever you, I'm going to drop them all at the end.
I guess they will mention here because some people will believe this and some people will believe that.
So yeah, if you guys know, you know.
All right.
So this comes from Illumina.
Naughty.
I see what you did there, sir.
The horrifying story of the Manson family.
And you guys know, like, I'm not trying to get the stream shut down because if I use like the real stories one, they always act lame and like, you know, we're going to turn the stream off for a bit.
So this one I think will be good.
And then we'll just fill in the gaps for y'all.
All right.
So let's get this thing going.
What do the Beatles White Album and the Manson family murders have in common?
Well, everything, at least According to every book you'll ever read on the subject, it was allegedly the driving force behind the gruesome murders that took place only a short time after Manson became the leader of and during the murders, guys, they would go ahead and like write messages in the victim's blood, you know.
So these guys were definitely on some demon time.
And what I'll probably do is I'll put a link in the description for you guys that shows the murder scene photos, but they're way too graphic to show on YouTube.
It's pretty bad.
A wildly violent, obsessively loyal young cult.
At first, the Manson family seemed like your average, everyday, run-of-the-mill commune family prevalent in the 1960s.
They preached free love, traveled around in their little buses, and relied heavily on the psychedelic LSD.
Manson was the ultimate father figure for a group of runaways, but they weren't quite what you might think.
These were classic suburban kids and young adults who had lived relatively normal lives before Manson came sauntering in.
While some were separated from their families, they were working their everyday average jobs, living their everyday normal lives.
But Manson was the ultimate charismatic figure.
He convinced the family that he was a Jesus-like figure that sold them on his beliefs.
Society, yes, guys, they are not kidding around about that.
He actually did go ahead and make himself out to be like some individual that was brought by God.
He used to tell his people, like, I am, I'm Jesus and the devil wrapped in one, or God and the devil wrapped in one.
So he was a very good con man.
And just you guys know, he spent over half of his life in prison.
He spent about 17 years in prison.
When he got out, when he was around 32, 33, that's when he started pushing really hard.
You guys are going to see here in the music.
And just like another guy from Germany that got rejected from an art school, if you know what I'm saying, this dude got rejected.
This guy got rejected by a music label and he went on a path as well.
He learned how to play Italian in prison too.
Yes.
Yes.
Wasn't for them.
It wasn't for any of them.
They were better off on the outskirts following him.
Now, these three girls, guys, are three of the women that were involved in the Manson family.
Okay.
You got here Patricia Crenwinkle.
Susan Atkins.
Susan, yeah.
Okay.
And she's no longer alive.
And then you got Leslie Van Helton, who actually, guys, is probably on the verge of being released here on parole in the state of California.
So she spent 53 years in prison.
And I'll show y'all a little video about that in a bit.
Remember in the name of Susan, though?
What was that?
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
Remember this crazy chick right here.
Susan, where's she at?
Susan Atkins.
Okay.
She's going to come.
She's going to be very important to this story.
All right.
And only him, the one true Messiah.
But as the LSD-induced Messiah's teachings droned on for hours, they began to take a darker turn.
Soon, he became obsessed with the Beatles' hit song Helter Skelter.
He believed the Beatles themselves and the white album in particular were signaling the end of the world by way of a race war.
In his eyes, there was a war coming and black people would emerge victorious.
The catch is that they would be relying on him and his family to build a brand new society.
But when it didn't come the way he thought, he improvised.
Yeah, no surprise here.
Charles Manson was a raging racist and he basically graped someone in prison, if I'm not mistaken.
Well, he was assaulted too.
He was assaulted.
Yes, he was very assaulted.
He was assaulted in prison and he also graped someone as well.
So, I mean, he spent over half of his life in reformatories.
He spent school for boys.
School for boys.
He also spent a good amount of time in federal prison, not just state prison.
Because he was Raymond's stolen cars across state lines.
Yeah, yeah.
Passing bad checks, prostitution facing interstate lines.
Pimping interstate lines.
Yep.
And then what was stealing cars across interstate lines, which those are all going to be federal charges, guys.
Remember how I told you guys before?
A lot of the times once you affect interstate commerce or you cross interstate lines, now you've effectively made your crime federal.
And, you know, if you take a car and you steal it and you take it across state lines, you're going to get hit most of the time with a charge called transportation of interstate stolen property interstate.
Okay.
And that's a pretty easy charge to prove.
That's actually what they hip-hop smoke with that charge, guys.
A lot of y'all don't know that.
He took a, it was either a Rolls-Royce or a Bentley, if I'm not mistaken, back in like 2018, 2019, like a year before he passed away.
He took it across country and they charged him federally for that.
He was indicted federally for taking a car across state lines.
So interstate transportation of stolen property is the charge.
So yeah, but yeah, he thought that basically, guys, and keep in mind, around this time, right, the civil rights era was going strong.
The Blank Panthers were created.
So, in his head, and this is this is Los Angeles, guys, right?
A lot of the violence is going down in LA.
So, in his eyes, he was like, Okay, they're going crazy.
We need to rise up and fight them.
And he built this little, you know, cult.
And it went from like you know, a little hippie, um, you know, psychedelic and let's free love type family cult to a oh, we gotta ready, get ready for war.
And the song Helter Skelter from the Beatles, uh, he felt like that song spoke to him with a plan to start the war himself.
He sent his family off to murder in cold blood and left clues behind that would lead people to believe it was the Black Panthers executing the murders.
This is the so he tried to frame them because what he did was he killed white people and he made the murders look as if it was done by the Black Panthers to incite.
Oh, but wait, they don't explain that in the documentary.
Uh, they might explain it later.
I made like a whole because I got a lot of research in this guy, like a whole full, full four pages of this notebook here.
I made like a whole map here showing how this is the theory of the drug dealing gone run, though.
So, what the drug dealing, drug dealing gone wrong.
Oh, oh, no, no, no, no.
Well, we will definitely cover that, though.
That was the first, one of the first murders.
Um, okay, we'll keep going.
Unless you want to have anything you want to say right now.
Well, you can kind of explain it somehow.
Okay, well, add in if I miss something then.
Okay, all right.
Story: We have heard on repeat: the Helter Skelter, the race war, the family.
But what lies behind Manson's wild eyes?
How did a man become the leader of over 100 young people and convince some of them to commit multiple heinous crimes, including some of the most brutal murders in history without a second thought?
Yeah, I can see there.
Police, piggy, and then look at the paw right here.
And this went down at one of their first murders.
Um, well, I'll let it continue on, but you guys, you guys see what I mean.
I just wanted to point that out.
So, they write it with the victim's blood, police, and then bam, the paw of the Black Panthers to make it look as if this was a Black Panther hit.
Who was the Manson family, and where are they now?
Shout out to that man, uh, the Illuminati on the name of the channel.
I found a crime scene photo.
Hello, everyone, and welcome to a very spooky, very special Halloween edition of a new series that we're testing out: Dark Dives.
I'm the Illuminati, and today, how did a short narcissistic man become the leader of the United States' most infamous cult?
Well, it all starts back in 1934 when Manson was born in Ohio.
From the beginning, his life seemed doomed for disaster.
Uh, Cincinnati is where he's from, guys.
His mother, Kathleen Maddox, was absentee, and while Manson was growing up, he lived with her family.
Everything was dark, he suffered years of abuse and neglect.
And by the time he was only 13 years old, he was already committing his own crimes.
Soon, he would find himself in a boys' school where his life just got worse, and he became more violent.
He spent a and also, just so you guys know, his mom was a hooker.
Um, so she's a sex worker, yeah.
So, she was out on them streets, if you know what I'm saying.
She belongs to the streets, so she didn't really have time to care for him like that.
And you know, every time she did come in, she'd be with him for a bit, and then she'd, you know, give him off to relatives.
So, his mom was definitely a streetwalker.
You have something interesting, yeah, yeah.
Well, she was she got pregnant when she was 15, and um, and she was pregnant by a, I don't know how you guys called it, is it a con artist?
Oh, a con artist, yeah, that was Charles Manson's father, and he never claimed him.
Like, she told him that she was pregnant, and he just flew.
Yeah, he just left that boy turned into Goku, yeah, yeah.
But she thought he was a colonial because his first name was Colonel, and uh, I think his last name was Scott, and yeah, so he left and she started raising the child by herself, but she was an alcoholic too, so she also, I don't know if you heard this, but she sold him for a pitch of beer to a waitress.
Yeah, she tried to, yeah, she tried no, she did, and then her um uncle, like her, I'm sorry, hair's hair brother, was the one who found the baby later on, like two days after he found the waitress and like had to, like, you know, this that's my nephew.
So, that's not a rumor, it actually happened, yeah, happened you confirmed it, okay, yeah, because they've been I've heard that rumor as well that she sold him for a picture of beer, but then that like they uh the family members ended up getting the baby back, yeah.
Well, that's what Charles Manson said in his auto biography.
He said that she actually sold him and that his uncle had to to search for him to the waitress later on.
Damn, that's what happens when you have a mom that's a that's a someone in the chest said, what kind of beer did she give it for?
Probably a PBR, some bullshit, probably some give me a picture of BBR, PBR, man.
She's like, Oh, that baby's so cute!
I'm dying to have it, yeah, you know, you can have it, but just give me a beer, yeah.
So, I said it was but light.
Oh, no, she was like, nah, but like, nah, they support them, them, them, uh, them trans.
If you know what I'm saying, nah.
So, uh, yeah, no, guys, um, but yeah, it was it was a rough upbringing.
And then, also, I want you guys to also know this because um, Ted Bunny's mom was kind of in a similar situation.
And what I mean by this is you guys got to understand that back then, having a child out of wedlock was wildly like a big deal.
Okay.
Um, having children out of wedlock was not a thing, so it was very frowned upon, very shunned.
There's no, you know, all the single ladies and you know, strong and independent.
None of that bullshit was out there back then in the 30s, guys.
If a woman had a kid out of wedlock, they had these homes a lot of the times, which were kind of shameful, uh, single mother's homes.
So it wasn't like uh, it wasn't something to be proud of.
So, um, you know, for some women, especially degenerates like his mom, they might look at it like, oh, man, it's better to just give this kid off to somebody else because this is an embarrassment.
Uh, that I don't even have a man and I'm having a child out of wedlock.
So it was a big deal.
Her mom was actually, his mom was actually charged as well for armed robbery, and she paid a sentence for five years too.
And then he was raced by his uncle and auntie.
Okay.
I didn't know that.
Okay.
I didn't know she got arrested for that as well.
The vast majority of his time planning an escape.
And after six tries, he was finally successful, though not for long.
See, he had a particular crime that seemed to be in his favorite, and it was stealing cars.
So that's kind of how he was caught.
But he once again was sent away, this time to the National Training School for Boys in Washington, D.C. Finally, he was given some sort of explanation for his behavior.
He was told he was aggressively antisocial.
According to the psychologist, this came from an unfavorable family life, if it can be called family life at all.
Another psychologist who examined him wrote, One is left with the feeling that behind all this lies an extremely sensitive boy who has not yet given up in terms of securing some kind of love and affection from the world.
And maybe they were right.
Maybe if Manson grew up in a different life with a different family in a different point in time, we wouldn't even have anything to talk about today.
But as we all know, that's not what happened, and that's simply a fantasy of what might have been.
But there was a brief moment where there seemed to be some light, a belief that maybe his life was turning around.
After spending some time in the Ohio Federal Reformatory, he moved in with his aunt and uncle in West Virginia.
It seemed like maybe this was the chance that he could have to live a normal, calm, quiet life.
While people in the town seemed against him from the beginning, he caught the eyes of a railroad man named Cowboy Willis, who introduced Manson to his soon-to-be wife, Rosalie.
And for a while, it seemed like life may have had some promise.
Maybe, just maybe, the monster that would become Charles Manson could be avoided.
He went to church with his grandmother every Sunday and even had a child.
Unfortunately, everything would soon, once again, go wrong.
As the bills began to pile up, he once again turned to crime, stealing cars.
Soon, he would steal a car and drive to Los Angeles, where yet again, he would be caught and thrown back into prison.
After spending a few years in the Terminal Island Penitentiary, his wife would divorce him.
He would find himself in and out of prison for the rest of his life, constantly being released, only to break probation soon after.
And this seemed to be the way of his life.
After suffering years of abuse, now, there's, I'll just address this real quick since we're on it anyway.
Um, there was uh, some theories, right, that Manson was a CIA asset.
And the reason for that is because, um, when he got out of prison, guys, he was on probation and he went to uh San Francisco.
And his probation officer, basically, there were times when he left San Francisco or he traveled when he wasn't supposed to, he got arrested, etc.
Basically, he violated his probation, yet he never actually went back to jail.
And what this guy, right, this author out there, I forget his name.
He went on the Joe Rogan podcast.
I'm going to get his name right now.
But basically, he went ahead and did a FOIA, a Freedom of Information Act, okay?
And he went ahead and got the parole paperwork or sorry, the probation paperwork for Charles Manson.
And he found that Charles Manson got quite a bit of latitude when it came to violating his probation and not getting sent back to prison, etc.
And there was quite a bit of speculation that he was a participant in Operation MKUltra, which was the use of base of illicit drugs, psychedelic drugs such as LSD, et cetera, and experimenting with mind control or whatever.
And this was all done by the CIA.
And there's just a bunch of shit that was going on in the backgrounds that led people to think this.
And Whitey Bulger, who I also covered on this podcast, guys, was another guy that was also allegedly participating in these experiments as well while he was in federal prison.
And if you guys know, like I said before, Manson was participating in that.
He was allegedly participating in this stuff while in federal prison.
So that's a speculation as to why he was, he basically didn't get violated, even though he committed a lot of crimes even after he got out at the age of 32 and was on probation.
So for obvious reasons, they probably don't want to admit that because he ended up killing seven people, being involved behind the death of seven people while he was out.
So yeah, but the CIA in the 1960s, guys, was different.
If you watch my New Mech documentary that I, excuse me, documentary reaction, shout out to Ryan Dawson.
He's the one that came out with the documentary, but I reacted to it on this channel.
Go watch it and you guys are going to see how crazy intelligence agencies were back in the 1960s.
I mean, I think at this point, it's not even, I think, I know it's been proven the CIA was 100% involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
It's not even up to dispute anymore.
It was John F. Kennedy, them boys, if you know what I'm saying, and organized crime, to be exact, the Jewish and the Italian mafia.
Okay.
And a lot of people wanted him gone.
The military industrial, he wasn't a proponent of the military industrial complex.
He was trying to have, he was putting a lot of pressure on Israel and David Ben-Gurion, the first president of Israel, to have nuclear checks because he thought that they had nuclear bombs and they shouldn't have had them.
But we know that they got them through stealing uranium from the United States.
All fact, by the way, shown in declassified documents.
We know that the mafia wanted him gone because his brother, Robert F. Kennedy, was going super hard and trying to get them trying to get the mafia to come in and testify.
He was basically, excuse me, he was subpoenaing them to come in and testify about the whereabouts and activities of La Cosa Nostra and the criminal activities.
And obviously they had the Omerta code of silence.
So they didn't want to have to be involved in that.
And then on top of that, which no one ever talks about, the Kennedys tried to get the boys' lobbies.
That starts with the Z, if you guys know what I'm saying.
He was trying to get them to register under the NARA, under NARA, which is an Foreign Agent Registration Act, which obviously would have significantly limited their ability to politic and lobby an American government to the extent that they do now.
So all these things were not in Kennedy's favor, guys.
And he didn't want to go to war.
He didn't want to do any of that stuff.
And he was costing criminals, the military-industrial complex, a lot of money.
And a lot of people wanted him gone.
And I'm going to talk in more detail about this with Ryan Dawson.
Ryan Dawson actually knows who the two people were that shot and killed Kennedy.
He knows who they actually are.
And let me tell y'all this: it wasn't Harry Lee Oswald, okay?
Don't believe the BS that they tell y'all in Wikipedia.
It's not true.
And here's another thing that they didn't tell you guys.
In the 1970s, Congress did a separate investigation, okay?
And they concluded that there were other shooters except for Harry Lee Oswald.
And they even acknowledged that shots came from the grassy knoll.
So I say all that to say this.
The 1960s were a crazy time.
All right.
I don't put anything past the CIA for them letting out crazy killers like this dude to come out and do LSD experiments, killing a goddamn president.
The Zodiac killer was going wild around this time, stabbing people up.
You know what I mean?
So the 1960s and 70s, et cetera, these were dark times in American history, guys.
The mafia was at its height, at the strongest it's ever been in this between the 20s, all the way up until the mid-1980s when Giuliani took them down in New York with the first crime family.
So this was the heyday for criminal activity, guys.
All right.
So anyway.
Yeah.
If y'all don't see me tomorrow, you guys are going to know what happened.
I probably got assassinated by the CIA, man.
All right.
So, but yeah, guys, it's this was a different time period.
They didn't give a fuck back then, if I'm going to be candid with y'all.
Neglect and sexual assault while in the boys' school, Manson never successfully found himself back in the good graces of society.
He spent virtually every second of his childhood, teenage years, and adult life in prison.
In fact, in 1967, when he was released from prison in California, he asked the warden if he could stay, a request that I bet they wish they would have granted.
But they did.
Sorry, I meant to say Lee Harvey Oswald.
My bad, guys.
I didn't sleep too much, man.
I'm tired.
So my bad there.
I stand corrected.
But y'all know who I'm talking about, goddammit, the Patsy.
And upon his release, Manson set out to build his own way of life.
It was the 60s, time of passion, music, and free love.
There seemed to be no sign of social or public codes.
Anyone could talk to anyone.
And as the Smithsonian put it, runway hippies mingled freely with Hollywood royalty.
So Manson went off to Los Angeles.
Go ahead.
So before he was released, right?
Before during this time, he got married once.
I think they mentioned this here.
He got married with a hospital waitress when she was 17 and he was 20.
And they had a child.
But she divorced him after one year, he being in prison.
She will often visit him with his mom, but then she was like, Yeah, she just left him and like divorce him and find another man and like raise her child alone.
And then his son didn't want it to be related with him.
So he changed his name and eventually killed himself.
Shot himself in the head.
God damn.
I would too if my dad was Charles Manson.
I'm just kidding.
Angelies, with the dream of one day starting a music career after he'd learned to play the guitar in prison.
Unfortunately, one producer who had worked with him called him an unmitigated disaster.
And so while the dreams of his music career quickly fell by the wayside, he had a backup plan.
He had been carefully studying and learning about religion and picking up on techniques of effectively brainwashing people from the works of Scientology and the book written by salesman Dale Carnegie, How to Win Friends.
Oh man.
Friends and influence people.
Through his time in prison, he had carefully followed some of the most successful men in terms of leadership, brainwashing, or amassing a following.
And now that he was out, he learned how to put all of those techniques to use.
Soon, he would gain his first follower, Mary Brunner, who was only 23 at the time.
Slowly, they started recruiting, and his following would grow from one to over 100.
This was a man that had been relentlessly bullied by suburban youth for his differences.
He had suffered abuse from his family, friends, and adults for the majority of his life.
Someone that was so institutionalized that he actually begged to stay in prison.
Now he had a massive following.
Children and young adults would leave their families and friends without a second thought for a promising life of adventure, change, and free love.
And that's what Manson was promising them.
The man who had been unceremoniously shut out of society his entire life was now the leader of a group.
It was a recipe for disaster, but no one could predict how awful it got.
Guys, remember that Mary girl?
So she was one of her biggest follower, and he also ended up marrying her too.
And he had a child with her too.
And he, I think it was him.
Yeah, he wants his right now.
I think if it's not right now, it was like a few years ago.
He's fighting for his money now.
For his like, how do you call it?
When somebody die and like they want to like for that, apparently.
Now we're going to get into the family.
And just so you guys know, they're understating this guy's charisma charm.
Manson, even though he was, he was very short.
You got to remember he was in their eyes, right?
He played.
So he gets out of prison.
He knows how to play the guitar.
He actually wasn't that bad.
I've actually listened to some of his music, right?
Not that terrible compared to like other, you know, folk type music at this time.
He knows how to play guitar.
Music isn't that terrible.
I mean, he got visited by someone who was involved with the Beach Boys, I think, if I'm not mistaken back in the day.
Yeah, there you go.
So obviously he was good enough to get a rehearsal.
So, you know, he's playing music.
And back then, right, you were the, you were the shit if you could play music and you were a hippie and, you know, he was the leader.
Like all these things make you attractive to women, right?
And then like, you guys got to remember back then that was a style, having the long hair, the grungy beard.
That was what it was.
So the guy had a lot of dominant attractive traits that women would find, you know, arousing.
And so that's why he was able to command these women.
Then on top of that, you add the drugs in.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
You know what I'm saying?
Like my man out here putting LSD and ice and sugar cubes and giving it to them.
Like, yeah, like you're going to be the fucking man.
You could play music.
You got you dressed like a hippie.
You got this beard.
You got this cool.
He actually turned an old Hollywood set, like a Wild West set, which is about 25 miles away from Los Angeles.
He turned that into like where they lived.
So you're housing people.
You're the leader.
You're giving them drugs.
You're playing music.
You're like a rock star to these people.
You know what I mean?
So, and then a lot of these women are younger.
They're late teens, early 20s, runaways from home.
Some of them didn't come from good families, right?
So that's what ends up happening: you're able to brainwash these people and you got drugs on your side.
Yeah, he was very charming too, apparently.
Yes, that's what these women will say.
Yep.
Well, they killed Farman.
Y'all about to see that here in a second.
Diane Lake was just a child when her family moved her from their quiet and peaceful home in Minnesota to California.
They had dreams of becoming part of a new counterculture lifestyle and to make their way to a free love commune called Wavy Gravy's Hog Farm, which what a name.
According to Diane, this soon became a life of severe isolation for her.
She was told she was jailbait for the men coming to the commune and was told if she wanted to stay, she had to stay out of sight and sleep in the attic.
Unwilling to endure the isolation and the feeling of being entirely unwelcome by the community meant to spread love and acceptance to all, Diane began bouncing around, living with friends in other communes.
At just 14 years old, she was introduced to Charles Manson.
She recalls meeting him to be a magical experience.
Eventually, she would come to be the youngest member of his family.
For a short while, she quoted, felt more love and belonging with Manson and the girls than anywhere else.
At first, at least according to her, it was another thing as well, guys.
Big thing.
He had other women there as well.
What do I tell you all the time?
When you have women, it allows you to be attractive to other women.
Why?
Because of social proof.
Also, there were children there as well.
So, this whole safety net thing of having a bunch of people around you, having women, having men, having children, and you're the leader of this establishment, it builds a lot of social proof, an enormous amount of social proof.
I'm going to take a time here to actually compare this guy to the guy leader of the Waco cult in Suge in 1990.
Yeah, go ahead.
In the 1990s, I think his name was David Kosher.
David Koresh.
Koresh.
Yeah.
They were so, if you see the story of Charles Manson and this guy, we will probably cover the Waco Siege.
Yes, we will.
We're definitely will.
This guy and they are very similar.
Like the cult leaders tend to be very similar, like in their, you know, to nurture women and like get women to their cults.
They talk even the same.
You see the interviews, you see, you can compare them very much.
It's like the same.
They're so similar.
Good point.
Yeah.
David Koresh, guys, definitely very similar to Charles Manson.
And what did he do?
He used, you know, the unifier of religion.
Manson did as well, because you guys got to remember as well.
Back in the 60s at this time, right?
Like, you know, you had Middle America, which was super conservative, like super religious.
You know, and what Manson basically provided was like an alternative lifestyle.
Hey, free love over here.
Forget everything you've been taught.
Forget religion.
Come over this way.
I'm going to reprogram you, et cetera.
And use the drugs to do that, by the way, which is why he was able to get these people to follow him so strongly.
But he did it in another light.
So Koresh used religion.
Manson used freedom and the hippie lifestyle and this alternative.
He was selling this alternative lifestyle to people that came from traditional conservative households from the Midwest or from Tupan households, whatever.
And in the 60s, it was cool to rebel.
That's why feminism took off during this time.
The civil rights era was taken off during this time.
It was, I would say that the 60s, guys, if you really think about it, is one of the most pivotal decades in American history because so many things came from it that changed the course of American history.
So, and this is just one of the tenements of it.
So, the really good comparison.
And we're going to cover David Koresh and the Waco Massacre and the Branch Davidians as well.
That's another case that, you know, got to cover that one correct, or people are going to cry.
So, and also, I'm trying to find a documentary to use for y'all.
I wanted to use the Netflix one because it's pretty good.
But they're going to go, yeah, but it's really good.
And the reason why I like the Netflix one is they actually bring in the ATF and FBI agents that were involved in the siege.
So that's why I like this so much because it was like, oh shit, we're actually listening to the actual agents that were there on the scene.
But you have anything else to do?
Also, yeah, well, these guys also use the women.
Like, Charles Manson will use them like as assets.
He will also fuck this girl, not less David Courage, because he will share his house.
But this guy manson shared his host.
Yeah, he was, yeah, he would use them as to trade them for like drugs and shit.
Like, you can sleep with my women, just give me drugs.
Like, this is Charles Manson, and David Koresh used to sleep with all them and nobody can be with them, just him.
Yeah, Caress was actually funny.
He used to smash other dudes' wives and tell them, like, I'm smashing your wife.
You can't smash your wife.
He used to cuck all the guys that lived in the house with him at Waco.
But Manson did a giveaway.
He was like, Manson even got biker dudes to show up because they were, again, they were going to try to stage a rebellion or whatever.
He got all these biker guys to show up and you let them smash a couple of the girls at work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
That's the name of the bike again.
Yes.
If I'm not mistaken, they were a white supremacist biker gang, right?
Yeah.
And yeah, he enlisted this bike again to protect him from this other guy.
I don't remember his name.
But yeah, well, he got an altercation with some black people, and that's what he was worried about.
Yeah.
The black pet this, but it was just like a made-up that he made because he was just tripping, to be honest with you.
Yeah, he was tripping on drugs.
But either way, he brought in a biker gang and he offered his women to Smash to get what he wanted.
So, Manson, again, master manipulator, man.
He did, he's the puppeteer, man.
He don't give a shit about nobody.
He's just trying to get his drugs, get his power.
And yeah, exactly.
He didn't have money, so he will trade the women.
He was like, Yeah, you guys protect me, and I can have as many women as you want.
Yep.
And they were like, Yeah, sure.
Exactly.
So, uh, yeah, let's keep going.
It's like a relatively normal commune.
They spent their days listening to music, taking drugs, and having sex.
And yes, at 14 years old.
But when the white album came out, it all changed.
Suddenly, their commune became the headquarters used to prepare for the upcoming war, and Diane was no longer part of the inner circle.
Her story is just one.
She didn't.
Yeah, you heard that song Helter Skelter, and that changed his world, guys.
Join in on the gruesome murders, but she would become a well-known figure for her role in and he was a big fan of the Beatles.
He was playing it over and over and over and over again when the white album came out.
We actually tell the members that they can only listen to the Beatles, the white boys, I think, the whiny boys, something like that, and his music.
That's all they could listen to.
Y'all can only play my music at the Beatles.
That's it.
That's it.
God damn it.
All right.
Testifying against the family.
By the time the murders were committed, she was only 16 years old, but she was one of the luckier ones.
After a brief stint in the hospital for psychiatric evaluation and treatment, she was placed in high school and later found love and escaped to Europe to avoid being followed by the family.
Hello.
What was really going on inside the Manson cult?
How were so many people as young as 14 years old falling into the world of Charles Manson?
And what did that world become?
Manson had one goal with his new followers to convince them they were special.
Many of them were not unlike Diane, runaways who had traveled to California to experience the new wave of hippie culture and free love.
Some were introduced to Manson.
And this was very enticing, guys, because remember, in the 1960s, it was a lot different.
We're talking about conservative Christian white America.
So people wanted to, if they wanted an alternative lifestyle, what'd they have to do?
They had to get out to the more hippie areas.
San Francisco was one of the headquarters of this.
And by the way, here's the album that they're referring to, guys.
I mean, I feel like I wouldn't be doing y'all justice here if I didn't show y'all.
This is the white album right here, guys, from the Beatles.
Okay.
Actually, I think Jay-Z got inspiration to call his album the Black Album from the Beatles having the white album, if I'm not mistaken.
The Beatles, also referred to colloquially as the white album, is the white, is the ninth studio album and only double album by English rock band The Beatles released on November 22nd, 1968.
Oh, damn, it's my mom's birthday.
Featuring a plain white sleeve, the cover contains no graphics or text other than the band's name embossed.
Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, The Beatles, is recognized for its fragmentary style in diverse range of genres, including folk, British blues, ska, music hall, pro metal, and avant garde.
It has been since it has since been viewed by some critics as a postmodern work, as well as one of the greatest albums of all times.
The album features 30 songs, 19 of which were written during March and April 1968 at a transcendental meditation course in Rishikesh, India.
There, the only Western instrument available to the band was acoustic guitar.
Several of these songs remained acoustic on the Beatles and were recorded solo or only by part of the group.
The production aesthetic ensured that the album's sound was scaled down and less reliant on studio innovation than most of their releases since Revolver 1966.
The Beatles also broke with the band's tradition at the time of incorporating several musical styles in one song by keeping each piece of music consistently faithful to a select genre.
So that just gives you guys a little bit of insight as to what kind of music was popular at the time and what Charles Manson loved.
And his music did sound fairly similar to theirs.
Obviously not as good, but he wasn't terrible.
He honestly wasn't that terrible.
By their boyfriends, others met him by pure chance, like Patricia Krenwinkle, who was working as a secretary when she met the unlikely cult leader and quit her job the very next day.
He promised them they would be accepted and welcomed them to a life that they dreamed of.
They were no longer on the outskirts of society.
They were becoming their own society.
Through Manson's unlikely connections, they were granted the ability to live on large, glorious ranches, including one owned by the Beach Boys Dennis Wilson.
He had become friendly with Manson during his mediocre rise in the music world and was intrigued by the singer.
Plus, there were the added bonus of having the women around.
That was actually one of the key reasons they gave him a chance is because they were like, oh, hoes.
Okay.
Let's give this guy a shot.
Well, actually, how they happened is that Dennis Wilson found two of these women and they were, I think they were hitchhiking, right?
Yeah, they were asking for a ride, right?
So he picked them up and they were like, oh, you should meet our friend Charlie.
He's great.
He has this vibe.
I think he's going to be great with you because he's a musician too.
Blah, blah, blah.
So they introduced him to Charles and then they became friends.
And actually, Dennis Wilson wanted him to be a part of the Beach Boys.
Yes.
But the other members.
The Bitch Boys.
The Beach Boys.
The Bitch Boys?
Oh, continue on.
Their action is hilarious, man.
The Beach Boys.
Whatever.
All right, go ahead.
Anyway.
Anyways.
Oh, yo, boy.
Yeah, I know they're going to choke.
I know they're going to choke.
I got the portant on my mind.
Oh, shit, man.
Wait, how do you say that?
What?
How do you say what?
No, Beach, Beach Boys.
Beach.
Yeah.
Okay, the Beach.
It's okay.
The Bitch Boys.
Let's continue on.
Anyways.
Anyways, I forgot what I was going to say.
What a patrol, man.
This is hilarious.
Anyways, so he wanted him to be part of the band, and the other members didn't want him.
So they kicked him out of the house.
But they actually stayed in the house of Dennis Wilson for a while.
Yeah.
Until they got kicked out.
Yep.
And yeah, I mean, he actually did get a shot.
And, you know, at the time, these guys were huge.
It wasn't like this was like some mediocre rock band, guys.
And actually, allegedly, right?
I'm going to say allegedly, I'm quoting Mo here because apparently Mason wrote this song that is by the Beach Boys.
Oh, Manson wrote this song.
Okay.
It's called Bluebeards Over the Mountain.
And it's allegedly written by Charles Manson.
And he fought because he said that they didn't give him this cut, and then they just took the song from him.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It's called what?
Bluebeards?
Bluebeards Over the Mountain.
Shit, Angie did her research.
I'm gonna look that up too.
Okay, that might explain why he was so pissed off.
And you guys are gonna see here how pissed off he got.
He had a producer called Terry Multiler because he was the one who was like stealing his work and shit.
Like they had like and he said that he would like get them a deal and then get Manson a deal and he never called them back.
And then Manson had to track him down.
Terry, Terry didn't like Mason.
Manson.
Manson.
Yeah.
Bitch boys, bitch boys.
Fuck the bitch boys.
Okay, let's keep going.
I like what was the name of the song again?
It was Bluebeards Over the Mountain.
Bluebeards Over the Mountain.
And did they even give him credit?
Probably not on the album either.
No.
Nothing.
Never.
Nothing.
They probably deny it.
They probably did steal his shit, man.
That's why he got so mad, bro.
You don't realize some of the biggest killers in the world came from rejection.
Yeah, I know.
Manson getting rejected by these guys, a certain individual with a certain narrow mustache getting rejected from an art school.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yep.
So, yeah, dude, it's rejection creates killers, I guess.
The Manson girls were trained.
Like, they did all the chores, cleaned, cooked, and sexual favors for any male guest.
But their stay didn't last long, considering Wilson had to spend over $100,000 to allow for these guests.
When they were evicted, they made their way to the now infamous Spawn Ranch, where the cult only continued to grow, and Manson's control just became stronger.
He instructed his followers to take group-wide acid trips, and they had mandatory orgies.
Oh, my God.
Mandatory orgies.
And just so you guys know, real quick: $100,000 in 1967 is the equivalent to $910,000 today.
So damn near a million dollars back then in 67 for 100K.
So that's a lot of money.
Oh, for the guys that are trolling me in the chat because I'm wearing a Durac.
Yes, I got inspired by the 60, and that's why I'm wearing a Durac today.
Oh, is that what?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
This is a 60s.
Yeah, the hippie style.
The hippie style.
Yeah.
Okay.
He's in love, guys.
All right.
Fair enough.
To followers, they were meant to rid them of society's convictions.
And the drugs, well, they did what drugs do.
They broke down resistance.
Soon, he would become Jesus Christ in his followers' eyes, someone that could do no wrong and would never lead them astray.
To them, he was the first person pushing them to do right, no matter how wrong the actions really were.
Leslie Van Houghton described her time at the ranch by saying, And that's the girl, guys, that spent 53 years in jail that's trying to get pro literally right now as we speak.
So she might get released any day now.
I became saturated in acid and had no sense of where those who were not part of the psychedelic reality came from.
I had no perspective or sense that I was no longer in control of my mind.
Now, obviously, LSD does not make you commit the atrocious crimes his followers wound up committing.
But LSD combined with hours-long lectures, sexual control, and brainwashing to the extent of believing someone was literally Jesus Christ can have lethal impacts.
And in this case, it did.
Wait, Manson would convince they didn't say, but do you guys remember that girl, Susa Atkins?
She was the one who found the ranch, right?
And the ranch was owned by a guy named an old man named Susan Atkins, by the way, guys.
Susan Atkins.
That's what I say.
Yeah, no, no.
Oh, my bad.
Let me pull our picture up.
Yeah, that's Susan Atkins.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
That lady.
She was the one who found the ranch.
And the ranch back then was owned by a man, old man named George Pan.
He was like, I think he was like half blind and he was 80 years old.
So he allowed these people to stay in the ranch for as long as they could.
Susan used to mess with him.
What?
She used to give him hand jobs and stuff.
I didn't know that.
But I will guess so.
But how else do you think she let everybody stay at the big ass ranch for free?
Well, but there was a bunch of men too.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, but she was like giving him handies and stuff.
But he will, he will, he will allow these people to stay there for like labor work because he, this ranch was like a horse, um, a horse ranch, and he will rent like the stables, right?
So that's how he will make income for the ranch.
And Hollywood too would use it to run movies, like Wild West movies, like they would use it there because it like had that, like it was out kind of in the desert, so it had like that Wild West feel for those types of movies.
But when they weren't filming, like, yeah, it was vacant.
No, but it was vacant when they moved there because it was like a left out movie set.
Yeah.
So he, that's why he started renting it as a horse stables thing.
And he let these people live there rent-free, which I think is awesome.
Rent-free, who doesn't want that?
But he just let them stay there as in change.
I didn't know that.
That way, Martin just said now, but I guess for Legiona, yeah, labor, labor shit, like labor work, labor work.
Yeah, labor work, if y'all know what I'm saying.
304 is definitely showing that labor, goddammit.
Family, that they were the leaders of a war to come, a battle for society.
And only with his help and by following his teachings would they not only survive, but prosper and thrive.
This was all unraveling.
And with the outside world cut off by the isolation of the ranch or the constant movement of the group, no one saw it coming.
All right, now we're going to get into the murders.
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So, guys, like the video, please.
Um, on YouTube, come on over, open up a tab on YouTube and like it.
Um, so let me go ahead.
By the way, you guys, um, this case was also based on this movie Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
If you haven't watched it, go watch it.
It's pretty damn good.
I love it.
It's with Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt, Margot Ruby, and a bunch of people.
And it's really good because it shows like how the Tay murders were and like the Le Bianca murders.
It's pretty good.
You guys should watch it.
I think it's awesome.
All right.
So we got here Real Talk Myra.
We need Fed Rex for our good old buddy Gaddafi from Libya.
You know what?
I'll probably cover that when I get Ryan Dawson here.
Joy, Destiny the Simp is back.
Why do y'all hate Destiny, man?
All right, are you still offering your 500 Patreon?
I'm currently looking for a duplex and don't want to mess up for my first home.
Is it still available?
No, it's not still available, but just book a consultation with me.
It's not cheap, but hit yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.
I had to up my prices just to protect time.
But yeah, if you're serious about it, hit me up.
Actually, no, just DM Angie right now on FedReax and put your name there and she'll star you and I'll get back to you.
By the way, you're the go.
And that's from Somerville Serpents.
Thank you so much, man.
Oscar Pistorius, Blade Runner, please.
Yeah, it's on the list.
You guys have been requesting that a lot.
You see?
Okay.
Oh, yeah, you did.
Yeah.
Okay.
We actually, we probably would have ended up doing him if it weren't for this.
My dad said he got questioned by the FBI back then for signing a petition that Mans has put out.
He's got tons of stories.
Mansa died here in town.
Okay.
Fair enough.
I don't play Gamers.
Myron, how do you feel about Vivek Ramaswamy?
I don't know who that is.
Did you cover Kyle Renhaus?
I was there in person for the protests of Kenosha, Wisconsin.
I did not cover him yet.
You ever get the Dan Hutchinson Hutch the Jeweler murder request, a famous Detroit jeweler?
A lawyer allegedly wrote himself in his will, then hired someone to kill him in 2022.
Should be good.
That's devious.
That's some demon time.
Give it a great work, Myron.
Help to Skelter, a great song.
Yeah, put on my Instagram story.
The real ones know.
With the Manson family being white, I'm really excited about the part where you explain how him and his family are actually aliens.
Yo, that girl was probably one of the dumbest chicks I've ever seen come on the show.
For some of y'all that are wondering, okay?
The after hours.
The after-hour show that we did with Nick Fuentes, we had to take it off YouTube, guys, because I mean, I'll just keep it a thousand with y'all.
YouTube is really lame, and they've hit us with strikes for stupid stuff before.
People will mass report our videos.
Like, I don't.
Oh, they took it out?
No, no, no.
We took it.
Oh, and the reason why we took it, guys, is because y'all got to understand.
I didn't realize this until recently, but we have a lot of hate watchers.
Like, we actually have a lot of people that don't like us that watch the channel.
And what they'll do is they'll watch and they'll dislike the video and they'll report stuff.
So anytime we have like a super viral moment or whatever, they'll mass report the video.
So obviously that video with Fuentes was going crazy.
So we're like, ah, you know what?
We got to be safe.
We'll just take it off, right?
Because he made some comments about a certain event that we will not discuss.
You guys know what I'm saying.
That might went down in the 30s and 40s in Germany and other places.
So we talked about that.
We talked about IQ, a bunch of controversial takes and whatever.
So the entire video is on Rumble.
So if you guys want to see it completely unedited, uncensored, it's all on Rumble.
Go check it out.
It was fucking hilarious.
It's funny.
But this girl that was on there literally made a comment and said, white people are UFOs.
And I was like, I really didn't know what to say.
In my head, I was just like, you stupid.
But yeah.
Ridiculous, man.
Yeah.
And I just told us about it.
There were a bunch of people that got triggered by that show.
Oh, yeah, with Nick, because he said some controversial stuff.
I mean, the N-word, you guys, the people here, like girls, no, no, no, no, no.
The girls in the panel did ask for it.
They did.
Everyone asked for it.
The guy didn't want it to say it.
I was here.
I was like, I know he was going to say it because if you make him say it, he's going to say it.
And you asked for it.
If you watch the show, everyone was asking for it.
I mean, come on.
You cannot get mad because you asked for it.
You know, it was like, I was like, dude, what the fuck?
All these girls were like, you know, like, what the fuck, poke her face after he said the N-word.
And they were asking for it.
That's actually true.
It was funny, too.
Good point, Angie.
Like, yeah.
And then people got triggered after.
Like, they literally told him, say it, say it.
Yeah, say it.
Say you say it.
And he did say it.
I mean, come on.
You guys asked for it.
What the fuck were you saying?
That show was hilarious.
I ain't gonna lie.
It was funny.
And here's the thing, bro.
Like, some of y'all are like, Myron, you, you, you're a coon and all this other bullshit.
Look, man, I don't give a fuck about race.
I tell y'all this all the time.
It doesn't bother me.
I find this stuff funny to me that people in America cry so much about race.
Like, it is wild to me how people use excuses and cry.
And oh my God, it's so fucked up.
It's like, bro, I don't see race.
I just see jokes.
That's what I see.
All right.
I just see opportunities to make jokes.
God damn it.
All right.
Whether you're Asian, black, white, Hispanic, Jewish, whatever it is, I will find a joke.
Arab, it doesn't matter what you are, Indian, Bangladesh, it doesn't matter.
I will make a joke on you.
All right.
And she looked like she's about to go to a cheater girls concert.
A shout out to you.
I wish I could go to a cheater girls concert.
What?
Of course, man.
It's what's sad.
He went to an all-boys school.
Fair enough.
The civil rights movement and organizations like NAACP had quite and them boys influence.
Do you think that movement was a total psyop?
Well, I will tell y'all this.
If you look at all the biggest leaders of feminism, they were all them girls.
No way.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, they were.
They were.
I looked it up, man.
I was like, holy.
So, and then the biggest person that pushed feminism was a member of them girls and worked for the CIA.
Y'all know who she is.
You got to drop the name in the chat.
Y'all know who I'm talking about.
Will you do a show on why you chose Glock over your service pistol or other handguns or how you choose your guns and ammos?
I chose the Glock, guys, because it's 9mm, holds more rounds.
I didn't like the service weapon for HSI at the time.
It was the 6-hour P229 DAC, which had a long-ass trigger pull and was heavy as hell.
And I didn't like it.
So yeah, and it was a 40-caliber.
And at the end of the day, guys, I don't care what nobody says when they do ballistic tests, when they've done ballistic tests, 9mm, assuming it's high quality, spear, you know, law enforcement type duty rounds, compared to 40 calibers are nearly identical when it comes to ballistic tests.
So you're better off with 9mm because you get more rounds, higher magazine capacity, and you can port more rounds downrange.
Yeah, and uh, you can use Glocks, which I think Glocks are really good for service because they're damn near indestructible.
Um, let's see here, even though I know some people don't like Glocks, but I think it's better than every other gun from a service standpoint.
You know, oh, 1911s are the best.
All right, bro, congratulations.
You and your seven rounds.
Let's see what happens in the gunfight, stupid.
Uh, Mario, what do you think of RFK Jr. running for president?
Um, I like RFK, guys.
Uh, I like the fact that he's like, uh, he's pretty damn based, um, but he's never gonna make it through.
The Democrats are never gonna let him make it.
Um, he's way too uh um controversial for them.
He's anti-vax, and you know, them on the on the Democrat side, they're all vaxxers, so he ain't making it, bro.
Um, definitely not.
And then what is vaxx?
You know, the jab jab, the jab, jab.
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, uh, he's an anti-vaxxer, so they be they'd be suppressing the hell out of him.
I mean, they take down his interviews on YouTube when he talks about that stuff.
You're gonna talk about it on YouTube, yeah.
If you say anything that's anti-vax, they'll take you down, they'll say medical misinformation.
All this could have been avoided if they had SoundCloud back then.
Man's mixate would have taken off.
Shout out to Prices, Dolly.
He always got funny comments.
Bitcoin Bandit, just watch the Graham Stefan pod.
His effeminate co-host had an angry face throughout the episode and was low-key hating.
Soy Boy was jealous of you.
I mean, yo, no, I will say this.
I was amazed that they even put it out.
I'll keep it a thousand with y'all.
I did not think they were going to put that interview out.
Um, I think they cut out the part because they're um, bro, all right, story time.
Wait, is that the interview from Vegas?
What was that?
Is that the interview from Vegas?
They just drop it out now, yeah, yeah, wow, no way, and they edited, I guess.
Where were you?
Were you there with us?
Yeah, I was there, yeah, you were in the background.
I was fighting the little dog that they had.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Angie was there.
So, um, so yeah, yeah, it was when we went, yeah, to Graham Stevens.
That was awesome, yeah, but um, so we go there, guys, right?
This is months ago.
This is when we did the uh months ago, yeah, Axis Vegas, because when we were in Vegas, so this is like a couple months ago.
So, when we went and did the podcast, right, as y'all can see, we disagreed on a bunch of stuff, whatever.
I didn't think they were gonna put it out because um, even their producer, uh, the guy in the back, right?
He like chimed in and had some things to say or whatever.
And, and, yeah, I'm gonna keep it a thousand with y'all, man.
He was a fan of this podcast, yeah.
He was he was a fan of H3.
Yeah, it was a fan of H3.
Yeah, he was mad at him.
Yeah, so he was triggered as fuck in the back.
He was mad as hell.
He was like, just switch the cameras, making all kinds of faces.
And he and he had a comment because we made a comment up a son about like your girl going out to clubs or whatever.
And he was, he was fat.
I ain't gonna lie to you.
He was like 300 pounds.
All right.
No disrespect to Graham and them, but we got to keep it a buck here.
So he was fat as hell.
So like Fresh made a comment to fuck you laugh.
Relax, Angie.
Relax.
So, so yeah, he was mad as hell.
And he made a comment.
This nigga Fresh was like, yo, you even get bitches?
We were like, yo, what the fuck?
And I'll tell you all this.
Fresh didn't stutter when he said that.
He's like, do you even get bitches?
And we all started.
Even Graham got like, you know what I mean?
Like, come on, man.
That shit was funny as fuck.
They cut that part out, though.
I didn't see that shit in the interview.
But yeah, that nigga had something to say.
He was tight.
He was because we're talking about like your girl going out to the club or whatever.
And he chimed in and he's an H3 fan.
We found out later that boy likes to listen to, you know, Ethan Klein, aka.
Surprise, surprise.
But yeah, bro, that shit was funny as hell.
And it's like a typical, you know, basement dwell looking guy, glasses, triple chin, had a big gray sweat, a shirt on that was like sweaty.
And he was like in the back, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I remember he was very like, he was making faces every time the guys would say something controversial.
He was just or making just faces like, you know, like he would disagree with everything he was saying.
I was just laughing.
I was just looking at him because I was next to him.
I was sitting in the back.
Yeah, Angie could see him because like the way it was set up.
Yeah.
Right.
So like we're sitting, we're sitting at the table, right?
Like we're sitting at the table.
He's behind the scenes.
Angie's sitting like parallel to him, right?
So she could see he can't, he could see her on the peripheral, but she could see him clearly.
So she could see everything he was doing.
So yeah, he was making those.
Yeah, he was making those faces.
I called it when he was about to say something.
I was like, this guy's going to say something.
Yeah, yeah.
You couldn't hold back like an hour and he had to say something.
Yeah.
And I think it was you that you asked him like, do you watch H3?
H3 is a podcast, H3 podcast, something like that.
And he was like, yeah, I watched them.
Yeah.
And then we started like laughing.
I was like laughing.
Yeah, we were like, they cut that part out.
Yeah, of course they cut that out.
Because Fresh was even like, nigga, do you even get bitches?
Like, he says some shit like that when the guy was like talking.
So, uh, so yeah.
Um, but he was, I think he was married, but yeah, yeah, but you know, shout out to Graham Stefan and Jack.
They were really good hosts.
Yeah, they were great.
They're really friendly and everything like that.
Uh, but I didn't think they were gonna put it out.
I'll be, I'll be honest with y'all.
Like, you know, like they're, you know, their fan base is, you know, because guys, they have a lot of women that watch them, a lot of liberals that watch them.
You know, their financial channel.
When you have a financial channel, everyone watches you.
So if y'all go look at the comments, you know, you're going to have a bunch of these guys are jerks.
Oh, my God.
These guys are bizarre.
This thing.
All the typical buzz terms of people that are like, you know, plugged into the Matrix and Blue Pill.
I will say that they were pretty cool hosts because they wouldn't agree with everything you guys.
Do you guys think that's what they're saying?
Yeah, they were very respectful.
But they were very respectful.
The fat dude was mad.
Yeah.
That nigga was tight.
His shirt was tight on him and he was tight.
Oh my God, Mario.
Yeah, yeah, he was.
I just hope these guys don't watch this show.
That'd be so funny, though.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I wish they kept that part in, though.
They took that shit out.
It's probably that guy that edits the video.
Fresh roasted that nigga.
It's probably him that edits the video.
Oh, yeah.
He's going to cut it out for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's going to cut that part out.
Of course, he's going to cut it out.
Because, like, Fresh was like, shot, because Freshlight forgot that, like, someone was back there, like, doing everything.
So, so, when he started talking, at first, like, like, nigga, who are you?
Do you ever get bitches?
So, it was just like, it was just funny.
Um, so, yeah.
Anyway, um, so yeah, but he would interject and say some stupid shit, honestly.
Like, they in the flow of the interview was just going pretty nice.
And then this guy would just drop the comment just to hate on Marin, just to interrupt the flow of the interview.
And he was like, dude, I was like, just shut the fuck up, man.
Like, what?
Just do your buttons thing.
Just do your buttons things.
All right.
Oh, man.
Shout out to you, Bitcoin Bandit, giving y'all a little bit more insight.
Like the goddamn video, man.
We're giving y'all a sauce, man.
But, you know, shout out to Graham Stephan and Jack.
They were super professional.
The guy in the back was mad, H3 fan, so I'm not surprised.
He got triggered as fuck.
But shout out to them for putting out the interview.
They had that long ass disclaimer in the beginning, though.
They did?
Yeah, they put a little disclaimer in the beginning.
Yo, anytime I see people put a disclaimer before we go on, I'm like, yes, we did a good job.
You know what I mean?
I'm like, yeah.
He just wants to get out of here.
Yeah, I was like, anyway, boy.
All right.
IRS.
Manson had a hammer.
Bad bitches.
He probably had them licking LSD off his chest.
Probably.
Shout out to you, IRS.
Regeronimo Pratt Johnny Cochrane was his lawyer.
Okay.
Johnny Cochrane, as you guys know, OJ Simpson.
O.J. Simpson case.
Yeah.
And this guy was great.
This guy was like awesome.
He just made like a whole.
He knew this was going to blow up in the media because when this happened, this was crazy.
Like, you know, I don't know.
I don't know if you watch this, but this was like the media just went nuts with this story with the Manson's family because, you know, like celebrities and shit, everything involved sex, drugs, alcohol shit.
So everyone went crazy.
And this guy just knew it.
And what, you know what he did?
He just wrote a book.
That was the first book about the whole thing.
And he was, of course, a bestseller.
And he just made millions of that book, which is awesome.
It's a Helter Skelter.
Bam.
All right.
Since we're talking about cult leaders, can you do Jim Jones?
Yeah, we probably can.
I might do that with Ryan Dawson, actually, because that's more geopolitical.
Randy Haynes, two bucks.
And also, guys, speaking of geopolitical stuff, I'm planning to have Ryan Dawson, Scott Ritter here, and maybe this other guy.
God damn, I forget his name.
It's one of Ryan Dawson's buddies.
And we'll have a talk on geopolitics.
Also, I'm going to stop this beef between Nick Fuentes and Ryan Dawson.
The guys are too important to the movement.
There's some of the few guys that are out here calling calling out some of the BS from Demboys, if you know what I'm talking about.
So, yeah, I'm going to get the Gripers and all them too.
You want to be the peacemaker.
I will be the peacemakers, man.
Low IQ Detector goes, like the video.
Angie, can you help me out here, Angie?
You need to learn Spanish, you know.
It says, he says, Aguilatina esuterjeta verde as minuto.
He's asking me if I have my green card already.
Nope.
Super sticker goes from Holden Wax Chop.
Appreciate that.
Pedro Perifect goes, just finished watching Nick Fuentes after our show.
Holy, shout out to you.
I know, bro.
I know.
I triggered a lot of people.
I put a hood on.
That's all I'm going to say.
I put a hood on.
I made it.
Yeah, Angie made it.
My daddy will kill me if he finds out that I do.
Angie made that shit for me.
I don't know if you guys know, but she sewed it, guys.
With heart, with heart, love, and affection for me.
She sewed it.
I was like, Angie, I got a project for you.
And she was like, wait, what?
And I was like, I need you to make me this.
She was like, what the fuck?
But she did it.
I just told him, like, I'm going to make you this.
He was like flipping his shit when I told him.
Yeah.
Hey, man.
Bro, it's fucking lit.
Oh, my God.
I'm sorry, dad.
Yeah, I got the whole man, my dad.
I don't want to say what else I got.
I'm not going to.
You know what?
I got to say what else I got.
I'm worried though, because we're going to get kicked off.
My dad is watching this.
My dad is watching the show.
I don't know if you guys know.
Oh, actually, yeah, you guys.
I'm translating the videos.
I'm putting Spanish subtitles for my Hispanic community.
So if you guys watch the few, the first videos that I made with Myron, I'm trying to translate all of them, of course, but it's a hard work.
So a few of them already have subtitles.
So you guys make sure to check them out and tell me if it's good.
Because my dad is watching the videos now and he keeps asking me like, yo, translate the videos.
I want to see them.
I want to understand them.
So, oh my God, my daddy's going to watch this.
Well, your dad's a race.
Sorry, your daughter's a racist, bro.
Your daughter's a racist.
Jared Choi goes, your boy being from Dallas, we do not claim her for the record.
Yeah, bro.
She was an embarrassment to Dallas.
Hello, off topic, but I read you used to play Halo 2.
Just what your gamer tag was.
Maybe we should play together.
It was Captain Teabag.
You can actually see some of my old videos.
Search X Captain C-A-P-T-I-N space T-E-E-B-A-G-X.
Search that, and you will see.
Myron calls him T-Bag from everything.
I don't understand.
Why is he T-Bag?
Tell us.
Why T-Bag?
Yeah.
I'll say it at the end of the show.
I'll say it at the end of the show.
Okay.
All right.
Travis.
Shout out to you, bro.
I appreciate that.
Shout out to you, thank you for the support.
Will you cover the Malcolm X or MLK assassinations on this channel?
You know what?
Probably Orion Dawson.
Myron, where can I find that interview?
It's on the Iced Coffee Hour, guys.
If you want to see that interview, you know what?
Here, you know, I got y'all right now.
Let me show y'all real fast.
And so I'm going to share screen with you guys real quick.
So if you go ahead, you're going to go bam.
Okay.
You're going to type in iced.
This is the least I could do for making fun of their producer.
Iced coffee hour.
Yeah, Myron, come on.
All right.
And then you go click here, bam, stop being broke.
Here's the video right here.
Don't get married until you're 35, making six figures a year, in shape, going to the gym consistently, and had with 50 girls.
Fresh and fitter podcasters that mainly discuss gender roles, dating, and self-improvement, except in a pretty controversial way.
Society will still proper up and tell her, you deserve that multi-millionaire six foot three guy, even though you're ugly.
Well, there's a lot that we agree with.
There's also a lot that we disagree with.
Anything is possible.
We can walk outside of the door and get struck by lightning as possible.
I still have to say, we feel like it's our duty as podcasters to have an open discussion.
Nice editing.
Different perspectives on top of that.
You know, their editor did that shit.
He was mad at Fresh, bro.
I'm telling y'all, bro.
Fresh, Fresh roasted him, bro.
I wish that shit was okay.
He was like, nigga, who are you?
Yeah.
When he said that shit, I was dead.
Like, do you even get bitches?
So, anyway, yeah, this was the interview, guys.
Let's run this thing up, bro, because I'm looking at some of their other interviews.
Bruh, yo, we need to beat Destiny.
All right, number one, we need to beat Destiny.
We need to beat this random 304.
Yeah, Destiny went over there.
Amarath makes 2 million a month.
Bro, this Twitch thought makes 2 million a month doing what?
Doing nothing.
And then we need to beat Nelk.
I think we're going to beat them.
And then I don't know who this random 304 is.
Myron just insulted straight out and said, bro, I want to beat all these people, man.
We need to beat all these people.
So run this interview up.
All right, guys.
We need to beat her too, Brett Cooper.
And then who else?
I think they had fucking LaSan on.
Let me see here.
Wait, I'm going to say something funny, though.
We went to eat afterwards this, and Myron just called Jack straight to his face, one of them boys.
Oh, yeah, he is kind of one of them boys.
Yeah, we're about to say it.
I was like, bro, because he asked him, like, what's your, I don't know what you asked him, but he said, like, yeah, I'm, I'm, yeah, we need to beat that.
We need to beat this dude, fucking LaSan Liker.
one of them boys and you tell me You go get us canceled, bro.
Be professional.
She's more racist than me now.
All right.
Okay.
Could you do a show on Fed Reacts about the rise of fall, Pablo Escobar?
Yes, we will.
Yes, we will.
Steve-O, was a mass murder, suicide of the People's Temple cult at the behest of their leader, Jim Jones, in 1978.
Yes, I'm familiar with who Jim Jones is.
Angie, no green card.
We will see you soon.
That's for Border Patrol.
Shout out to you, bro.
I'm illegal.
I will say.
W. Myron Bigsby, we know she made you the whole role.
Oh.
Yo, what are you talking about?
I don't got the robe.
You told him?
No, I didn't say it.
You didn't say that?
No.
When?
I just like to know.
I don't know.
Man, I don't know what you're talking about, bro.
I don't got no robe.
Anyway, El Padre de Angie.
They're saying that my dad, they're telling my dad, I'm racist.
You guys, I'm mixed.
I'm not racist.
I'm just, I just like to joke and just laugh at the admirers' jokes because it's funny.
We got here, MDZ.
What do you think Mike Rasheed thinks about you wearing a hood on your head saying racist jokes?
Just wondering, bro, you don't care.
Mike is out here doing real shit, bro.
Like, yo, I'm telling y'all, bro.
Only poor people care about racism like that.
I'm telling y'all, bro.
Rich people don't give a shit about that stuff.
And racism is a divide that the rich and the elites use to keep you guys divided, blaming other people for why you're poor.
That's why, bro.
I'm telling y'all, man, once you reach a certain socioeconomic status, no one cares about your skin color anymore.
I'm telling y'all, bro.
No one cares.
As a matter of fact, if you're a minority and you have money, you get even more accepted into certain social social circles.
I will say this.
I mean, you guys called Nick, a lot of you called Nick racist, but if he was a true, real racist, he wouldn't have sit down with a bunch of black girls.
Like, he wouldn't.
True.
And he took pictures with all of them after.
He was talking.
He was really polite.
He treated all the girls really nice before the show, took pictures with them, had conversations.
Super respectful, super nice.
Well, really well spoken, really nice guy.
Like, I don't know why he gets such a bad rap and why people hate him so much.
Yeah.
I thought he was going to be more like, you know, racist.
Like, you know, like Mexican.
No, thanks.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And he was just so chill.
Like, the guy was so polite and like so respectful.
I was like, dude, what the fuck?
Are you actually racist?
It's like, yeah, I love Hitler.
Thanks, Angie.
Now we're going to get canceled off YouTube.
But I think he said that shit to Troll.
But either way, but yeah, guys, he's a nice guy, man.
He's a nice guy.
But a lot of people hate him.
It is what it is.
But yeah, well, he'll be here tomorrow.
And like I said before, I'm totally cool.
We've invited some of these like, you know, pro-black people to come in, these pro-black creators, right?
Like Dr. Umar Johnson, whatever.
We invited them to come and talk too, man.
I'm happy to have that discussion, that debate about racism in America, you know, because they like to blame everything on systematic racism, blah, blah, blah, which I think is valid to a degree, but a lot of people put way too much steak in it for why they're not where they want to be.
You know what I mean?
So anyway, it is what it is.
Let's keep going.
We're going to get into the Manson murders.
And yeah.
Now, please be advised that the following section will mention extreme violence and murder.
If you're not in the right headspace for that at the moment, don't worry, guys.
We're all niggas watching this shit.
Shut up.
The reality of the Tate Massacre, you'd actually be wrong.
Before the horrors of that night, there were others that took place, others that started it all.
Bernard Crowe, otherwise known as Lotsa Papa, found himself in the midst of the Manson family murder story after becoming acquainted with one of the most infamous family members of the group, Charles Tex Watson.
As the story goes, Tex had been selling drugs while living with the family at Spawn Ranch and allegedly stole money from Crow.
Another important name, guys, Tex Watson.
Your drug dealer.
Obviously, this didn't go over too well for him.
So one day, he unwisely called over to the ranch and allegedly threatened to kill everybody unless he was promptly paid back.
With Manson and his family already in a drug-induced haze of believing the war was coming and violence was an acceptable part of their journey, this was probably not the best decision.
But at this point, no one knew what the family was capable of.
And how could they?
Up until now, it just seemed like a cult of hippies living in a cabin, taking LSD, and participating in low-level crimes.
No one predicted what they would become.
However, this one situation would mark the beginning of the end, the beginning of the string of terror.
Not pleased with Crow threatening his family, Manson made his way over to Crow's apartment where he shot him.
And Crow acted quickly.
He played dead and waited as Manson left his apartment.
After, he begged his friend to call an ambulance, wound up in the hospital, and pretended he had no idea who shot him, trying to stay hidden.
Manson was convinced he was dead and soon became wildly paranoid.
He was sure that Crow was a Black Panther, which he wasn't, and knew that they would come to retaliate, which they also didn't.
So he did what he thought he had to, and he got his family convinced that they had to protect themselves from an upcoming attack.
And so it all began.
Manson told his family, now we got to fend for ourselves because the Black Panthers are going to kill us.
Now, guys, imagine like you already have, you know, you're already a multiple-time convicted felon.
You've already been prone to violence before.
Now you're taking drugs, right?
And you're paranoid.
Of course, your threat levels are going to be up and you're going to be not thinking right.
And you're going to think, oh my God, everyone's out to get me.
So obviously, he's taking ridiculous steps to ensure safety, but yeah, LSD actually does have like the side effect of making you paranoid.
So yeah, there you go.
Yep.
So soon, the family became intertwined with a motorcycle group called the Straight Satans.
They invited them to live on the ranch as a form of protection and offered them the opportunity to sleep with Manson's girls, who, according to one of the bikers, had been taught that having babies and caring for men was their sole purpose in life.
Yo, W. Chip Manson.
Oh, man.
He had one thing right.
But soon, it became clear that the bikers weren't going to help the family the way Manson had originally hoped.
So they turned to the help of another man, Bobby Bo Soleil.
The new member of the family was a wannabe biker who was desperate to prove that he belonged.
Now, this part of the story is a little tricky.
Some claim Bobby went to meet a friend, Gary Hinman, who got drugs for the Satans, while others claim that Manson urged his followers to go rob Hinman.
Either way, they appeared at Gary Hinman's house.
There, after alleged two days of holding Hinman hostage, Bobby killed him.
Desperate to cover up their crime and blame it on the Black Panthers, the members of the family swiftly wrote political piggy on the wall.
Yeah, with the paw print.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
They're eating a lot here.
Wait, so the story goes, as far as I know, that this guy, Bobby, bought drugs from here.
He is right here, Bobby Boselli.
No, the guy, um, this guy, uh, Bernard, right?
So they shoot him.
Charles shoot him.
And that the part of the story, this is right.
Like, he becomes paranoid because he thinks the Black Panthers are coming after him, blah, blah, blah.
Oh, he old.
Wow.
Yeah, that's an older.
Yeah, that's an older picture from 2016.
I hadn't seen him recently.
So this guy, this guy gets the wants to get like this guy's Gary Hinman's drugs, right?
And what happened is that he gave a girl to Bernard before he shoots him, right?
That's why they wanted to get the girls back because they gave a girl as a as a, I don't know, as a trade, like to keep her, to keep her as a warranty.
I don't know how to say this, but to keep her as insurance.
As insurance, yes, to get the money.
And that's when Charles shoots him and all these things happen.
Then they go to this guy's Gary to get the drugs.
Charles, they, this Bobby, sorry, let me get my head straight.
Stupid.
You need a second?
Yeah.
All right.
Get your facts and then we'll.
They're eating so much here.
So many details telling this story.
And I don't know why.
Because how about this?
I'll say some stuff, then you fill it in.
Basically, guys, this guy, Kenneth Busselli, here, you guys can see.
November 6, 1947, American murderer associated with the Charles Manson, members of his communal Manson family, who's convicted and sentenced to death for the July 27, 1969 fatal stabbing of Gary Hinman, who had been friended him and other Manson associates.
Busselli was later granted commutation to a lesser sentence of life imprisonment after the Supreme Court of California issued a rule that invalidated all death sentences issued in California prior to 1972 during his incarceration in California State Prison system.
Busilina has recorded and released music.
He has also worked on visual art instrument design and media technology.
Although a parole board recommended him for a parole in January 2019, his 19th hearing for eligibility, the recommendation was denied by the governor of California.
And just so you guys know, he also avoided the death penalty because he cooperated.
And I'm almost certain he testified against other members of the Manson family because he was the first person to actually go to jail for the stabbing of Gary Hinman.
And he was the one that went ahead and put the blood on the wall and wrote what he wrote, you know, at direction of Manson.
Manson basically was there with him.
They beat the guy up, tied him up a bit.
And then Manson basically kind of gave him the head nod, like, yeah, kill him, get rid of this.
And he left.
And then this dude killed him and then, you know, left the scene and left what he left there to try to instigate a race riot towards the Black Panthers because Hinman was a Caucasian individual.
Yeah.
Anything else you want to say?
Pretty much, yes.
But he was the main reason why the drug dealing gone wrong theory started to begin with.
So this happened because they had this guy, Gary, as a hostage for two days, right?
And they were trying to like, you know, like negotiate with him how to get the money back from the drugs.
But this guy had spent the money drugs already.
So he didn't have any money.
And he was negotiating his car titles, right?
His cars that were worth like $1,000 back then in change for the money that he didn't have.
That's when the slice in the face happened.
that Charles like apparently like slicing him in the face and then he left and this guy Bobby killed him.
So that's why that's what happened.
Like he killed him after Charles got there.
But that wasn't planned, you guys.
Like that wasn't a plan that they wanted to kill this guy, Gary.
So I've seen it before.
I thought it was Manson was there beating him up.
And then he like said, all right, Bussalini, you know what to do.
And he left him.
And then Bussalini stabbed him.
No, no, no.
The girls were there with this guy, Bobby, right?
And they called Charles and they were like, yo, this guy doesn't want to cooperate.
But when that was going on, they were already negotiating the car titles from this guy, Gary, right?
And he was going to give them away for like, they were worth like $1,000.
And that's when Charles comes in and he just gets all paranoid and like tells them like, yeah, you kill him.
That's what I meant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I thought he was, yeah, that's what I mean.
Like he was there and he kind of gave the order, but then he got the hell out of there after that.
But he sliced him in the face.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah.
You mean Charles Manson slice him in the face?
Yes.
I think he cut it even cut his ear off.
Yeah.
I think he could.
And they sue it with like dental floss, the girls.
They what?
They sue the.
They sold it back up?
Yeah, with dental floss.
That's kind of a waste because then he stabbed them and killed them anyway.
Yeah, but they kind of did it.
They found that the ear stick together with him with dental floss.
the fuck and then the girls want some demon time man The girls testify later on that they did then.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
So Manson basically did give the order.
It's just that he was never there when the murders went down, guys.
You know what I mean?
And I think he did that on purpose to create some plausible deniability.
And he had everyone else doing it for him.
And remember, you got this guy here that's like this reject biker that wants to be accepted so bad.
So Manson's like, hey, handle it.
And what does he do?
He just stabs him and kills him and takes the blood and goes ahead and puts this on the on the wall.
And they got this guy, Bobby, because he stole Gary's car and they caught him with Gary's car.
That's why they connected.
Yes, that's how the police were able to.
Yeah.
So the police caught Bussolini guys later on driving the victim's car.
And then they arrested him on suspicion of committing this murder.
Because like an idiot, he was running around driving his killed victim's vehicle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Incredible.
1960s for you.
And this is before DNA evidence, by the way, guys.
So they didn't give a fuck back then, like then, like that.
And this was truly the beginning of the end.
After Beausoleil was arrested for the murder, Manson began to panic.
Quickly, he developed a plan to throw off the police, a plan that relied on a series of copycat killings, or what we know now as Helter Skelter.
Less than a month after Beau Soleil was arrested, Susan Atkins, Liza Cassabian, and Patricia Crenwinkle and Charles Tex Watson, under the instruction of the man they saw as Jesus Christ, made their way to the home of the famous 26-year-old actress, Sharon Tate.
They had only one mission in mind, to stage a horrific thing.
These were some of the murderers that were involved in the hair.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
They had only one mission.
So you got here, boom.
These are the girls that were involved.
Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkle, and Linda Kassabi.
And she ended up not getting charged because she cooperated.
But I will, I actually have an excerpt from her telling the story.
And then here's text watching.
She was like, she was, he had some money because she had a good, very good lawyer that cut her out.
Well, she also came to the police first, pretty much.
Yeah.
And then she changed her.
And she cooperated and she was one of the key witnesses that helped them with because she was there.
You know what?
We'll play this and I'll show you guys a little excerpt that I have.
Actually, I have this clip here.
We might get hit with a copyright.
Hopefully not.
Before, you guys remember when I mentioned this guy, the producer that he had beef with, this guy, Terry Melchner?
Yes.
So they were looking for him.
Yes.
They were looking for him.
And he was the owner of the house.
This address right here.
150 Cielo Drive.
Yeah, the house where Tate and her friends were staying.
Yes.
So they were renting that house.
And this guy wasn't even there because he was traveling.
And that's why this guy went there because they were looking for this producer guy, Terry Melchner, because he had beef with Charles.
So just so you guys remember, Terry, right, this guy, Terry, was the one that rejected him from his record deal and wasn't returning calls.
So Manson didn't take this well and was pissed off.
He knew where he lived because he had dropped them off at this residence.
So, but what he didn't know is that Terry left and rented it out to Tate and her husband, who had just been, you know, recently married.
And she was like a couple of months pregnant, by the way, right?
Eight months pregnant.
Eight months pregnant.
So, um, so when they, when he sent his people there to attack them, right?
They were Terry wasn't there.
So they ended up killing innocent people for no reason, basically.
And her husband wasn't there either.
He was, I think, in Europe filming a movie.
Yep.
And he was a famous movie director at the time.
So, so, yeah, basically, bro, this is one of the worst situations of like wrong place, wrong time.
Uh, and yeah, it was a very gruesome murder.
I will go ahead.
We have the crime scene photos, but I definitely can't show them on YouTube.
What I'll do, guys, is I will put the link into the, you know, what can you put the link in the chat for them?
Yeah, but we'll put the link in the chat for y'all so you guys could see this crime scene.
Angie's gonna put it right now for y'all, and I'll go ahead and pin it so you guys can look at it as we go through this.
Yeah, you guys have the advice, though.
They're graphic.
Yeah, it's really bad.
And Tate was pregnant.
They could have TD out of Tate.
Yeah, man.
These guys, sick bastards.
You put in there?
Yep.
Okay, hold on.
Let me pin it for y'all.
It's fresh and fit.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I mean, fresh and fit podcast.
I don't know why.
Oh, no, no, no.
It posts it.
It posts it.
You're fine.
Okay, cool.
I will go ahead and pin it for y'all here in a second.
But we'll keep playing this.
In mind, to stage a horrific murder scene that distracts the police and places blame on the Black Panthers.
And that's exactly what they did.
That night in August, the family would commit one of the most atrocious.
It's pinned, guys.
You guys can go ahead and look at the crime scene pictures.
And brutal mass murders in American history at the time, but I'm not going to go into too much detail.
By the end of the massacre, Sharon Tate, who was eight months pregnant at the time, and four other people would be left dead at a crime scene that shocked the world and stumped the police.
None of them had any connection to Manson, just chosen at random for the biggest shock value.
Inside the house, the word pig was written on the walls with Tate's blood.
The next day, the shock and horror of the killings hit the mainstream news cycle, only for another to follow the very same day.
After several hours of driving around Los Angeles neighborhood, now that girl that I told y'all about, she was there, guys, and here it is, right?
That's Manson's crazy ass interviews.
Yeah.
He's weird.
He's so weird.
Yeah, he definitely is a strange individual.
Hold on, I'll pull it up for y'all here in a second.
Give me one sec.
The family members involved in the Tate killings, now including Les Van Houghton, found their way into the home of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca.
They too were murdered, and the word rise, death to pigs, and helter skelter, which was spelled wrong and had an A in it, were yeah, because they're dumb.
Stupid.
But yeah, you guys can see there.
And that's from the Beatles album.
Written on the walls in blood.
The sheer brutality of these murders.
All right.
So this is kind of a reenactment of the murder.
Guys, like the video because I'm probably going to get hit with a yellow check for showing y'all this.
But fuck it.
We're going to give y'all the value.
It is what it is.
Let's do it.
All right.
This is a reenactment of what went down on that fateful night, August 9th, 1969.
All right.
So this is text right here.
All right.
So they sneak onto the property.
He has a wirecutter and a gun.
He cuts the phone lines first, right?
And then these are the girls.
This is the girl that ended up cooperating.
And then these are the other two chicks.
And let me go back here.
Hold on.
We'll put this right here.
Just so you guys have a visual.
These were the girls, right?
Bam.
Okay.
So Linda Caseman is the blonde in the reenactment I'm about to show you.
Obviously, Texlon is the male.
And then Susan and Patricia Kern Krenwinkle were there as well.
So they sneak onto the property.
Again, this is here: 150, 150 Cielo Drive.
So we'll fast forward this a bit.
So the gun four times.
Bang, bang.
So this guy walks in, right?
He stops a car, 18-year-old kid in there.
What does he do?
Text.
Shoots him.
Four times kills him.
Tex shot the gun.
And if I'm not mistaken, that kid was related to the one of the caretakers at the home, the gardener.
Okay.
Bam.
Four times.
18-year-old kid.
He was just leaving.
And just so you know, this is a common tactic that a lot of murderers used to employ back in the day because as you guys know, there was no internet or whatever.
So if you wanted to go ahead and disable a house, you just cut the phone lines and then boom, you got it.
You know what I mean?
If you cut the phone lines, the BTK killer, bound, torture, kill, Dennis Rader, he also used to employ this technique of cutting the phone lines before he invaded a home.
All right.
So they go in, right?
Got their knives and everything.
So she gets the wallet.
He tells Tex tells her to get the wallet, right?
So she grabs the wallet off the court.
That's her right there, actually, talking.
Go around back.
You two come with me.
Tex told me to go to the back of the house.
And him and the girls went to the front of the house.
This shit is wild, bro.
Oh, God.
He was just so she goes around the back of the pool.
My body was there, but I wasn't.
So there's text.
Mind you, just so y'all know, they did speed right before this.
Okay.
They all did speed, like before they went into the house.
So they're all hocked up.
Like it's August 9th.
Speed.
What is that?
Oh, it's basically a drug that like accelerates.
Like, think of it as like cocaine or ecstasy, whatever.
But they did speed, right?
So they do speed beforehand.
It's August 9th, 1969.
Hot as hell in California, by the way.
All right.
And this is in a few miles.
This is like just outside of LA, right?
Very wealthy, affluent area.
Okay.
In the hills.
So Tex takes his knife, right?
And he cuts the fucking thing.
This reenactment doesn't show it, but when he breaks in and they see him, he tells them, I'm here to do Satan's bidding, basically.
So they go in with the knives.
He tells her to stay out there and be look out.
So, right?
This is this is the perfect witness, guys.
This is why she was able to testify and get immunity.
She was there.
She saw everything.
Okay.
And you guys are going to hear here in a second.
See here in a second.
She heard everything too.
So let's keep playing it.
This is pretty graphic.
Guys, like the goddamn video because I'm probably going to get demonetized for showing y'all this, but hey, like it.
It is what it is.
All right.
We're going to give you all this content.
Like I said before, Fed Reacts isn't about making money.
It's about teaching you guys and giving you guys edutainment.
So let's do it.
Now, mind you, how many people were at the house?
Like four or five people?
She had her guy friend, if I'm not mistaken.
Who else was there, Angie?
Can you pull it up real fast?
The people that were there?
I think there were five people.
There was the Folger's daughter, like a woman that was involved, like the daughter of the Folger's owner.
I think her boyfriend, Sharon Tate's ex-lover.
I got him here.
Perpetrators.
So text Waxon, right?
The guy.
Patricia, share your screen.
You want to do that?
Wait.
While I pull this up.
Okay.
So Patricia Crank.
No, you got to share your screen, Angie.
Yeah, because I cannot name these guys.
Hit window on the right.
Or that works too.
Okay.
Okay.
So.
These are the perpetrators here.
Yeah.
Okay.
Leslie Van Howarden, Charles Manson, Sutan Atkins, Ken Grogan, and Linda Kissabin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those are the perpetrators, but we need, where's the victims?
Oh, wait, wait.
This is the Tates?
Yeah, this is the Tates, not the La Bianca.
Here.
La Bianca is the next night.
Here's the Tates.
So Abigail Folger.
I have the.
Oh, yeah.
Abigail Folger.
Folger.
Yeah.
Like Folger Coffee, by the way, guys.
The daughter of the Woodchuck.
Okay.
Would you check Frank Kowski?
Stephen Parent, JC Brink, Sharon Tate, Paul Richard, Polanski.
So yeah, six people.
Hold on.
So it was Trinity's friends and hairstylist, celebrity hairstylist.
Yes.
And her friend.
Yeah.
And yeah, like see if you get photos of them, Angie.
Wikipedia don't do it justice.
I'm gonna go back to this video.
I'm just kind of scared of like showing the kinds of things.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't show the dead pictures.
Like, get their regular pictures.
All right.
So she's there, right?
Yo, could you imagine, bro?
You hear gunshots, stabbing now.
This is obviously terrible.
What you guys are seeing, but this makes her the best witness.
Unfortunately, blood-curdling, chilling screams, screaming for your life.
And I couldn't tell if they were male or female.
They were just screams.
Damn, you can't even tell if it's an elephant.
See, he comes running out.
Babe, it's too late.
It's too late.
Yeah, this chick was crazy.
I ain't gonna lie.
Yo, this chick, Susie, she was wild.
Just listen for sounds like hey, and Susie was allegedly the one that stabbed.
Well, originally, they said that she was the one that stabbed Sharon to death and told her, No mercy for you.
You're gonna die.
Pregnant woman, guys.
Yeah, and apparently, Tay said, asked her if they could save the child, but like kill her.
And she was like, No, yeah, and killed her and stabbed her and shit.
Yep, they've, um, I think they were talking about cutting the baby out, too.
Sick bastards.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
And then this guy comes out barely alive.
And I saw a man and he had blood all over his face.
And he looked right into my eyes.
And he was dying.
but in his eyes what i saw was that i felt he was dying because of me and then text comes out He's got to finish the job.
Like, because another thing, too, you guys got to remember is that Manson was real big on not leaving any evidence behind.
Keep in mind, he had been to prison several times.
It's like, bro, like, y'all got to keep the stuff clean.
And you guys are going to see in the second murder, he gets a lot more involved than the second one.
But he was real big on not leaving any loose ends.
Okay.
No witnesses.
Then he runs after him to finish the job.
And yeah, that's really violent.
So I'll just move forward a bit.
Right?
He stabs him.
And then this girl, one of the other chicks, right, stabbing.
Then the other girl.
And I saw a woman in a white dress.
And she had blood all over her.
And she was screaming.
And she was calling for her mom.
And I saw Katie stabbing her.
And then Katie, remember, guys, to put faces to the name, right?
Where is she?
Hmm.
Oh, probably.
Okay.
I think they mean this girl, Patricia Krinwinkle, because we know Susan was the other one.
So maybe her last name, maybe her fucking nickname was Katie.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But we know that these were the people that were there.
Crazy, bro.
And they did this shit like with zero regard.
Like, they didn't give a shit.
If y'all look at the crime scene photos, and you guys are going to see what I'm talking about.
Very, very violent stuff.
All right.
But yeah.
So, okay, let's go back to where we were.
Oh, did you did you find the photos of the victims?
Yeah, here are the photos of the victims.
Okay, you got to hit share screen though and everything.
Do it.
Hit share.
You got to click window.
But we'll go back to this.
Wait, wait, wait.
Okay.
It's fine.
I'll play this while you figure that out.
Several hours of driving around Los Angeles neighborhoods.
The family members involved in the Tate killings, now including Les Van Houghton, found their way into the home of Leno and Rosemary Leppan to panic.
Quickly, he developed a plan after he begged his friend to call an ambulance, wound up in the hospital, and pretended he had no idea who shot him, trying to stay hidden.
Manson was convinced he was dead and soon became wildly paranoid.
He was sure that so they turned to the help of another man, him desperate to cover up their crime in Sabian, and Patricia Krenwinkle and Charles Tex Watson, under the instruction of the man they saw as Jesus Christ, made their way to the home of the famous 26-year-old actress, Sharon Tate.
They had only one mission in mind, to stage a horrific murder scene that distracts the police and places blame on the Black Panthers.
And that's exactly what they did.
That night in August, the family would commit one of the most atrocious and brutal mass murders in American history at the time.
But I'm not going to go into too much detail.
By the end of the massacre, Sharon Tate, who was eight months pregnant at the time and four other people, would be left dead at a crime scene that shocked the world and stumped the police.
And just so you guys, here's the victims from the Tate murder.
You know, rest in peace, all of them.
Abigail, this is, I don't even remember his name.
That's the hairdresser guy.
Yeah.
This is the kid that was like in Tate and her husband.
We should say we're going to say something.
Wait, no, that wasn't her husband.
Her husband didn't die.
No, no, no.
Her husband, hair husband.
Oh, Folgers.
Folgers.
Yeah, yeah.
This is Folger's right here.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
On the far right is Folger's guys.
Yeah.
Yeah, the coffee.
If you guys are not going to be able to do that, they were married.
These two.
Yeah.
The two at the corner were married.
Yeah.
But yeah, but yeah, if you guys are thinking Folger's coffee, yeah, that Folgers.
Peace.
None of them had any connection to Manson, just chosen at random for the biggest shock value.
Inside the house, the word pig was written.
And it wasn't all the way random.
We explained to you guys earlier.
I don't know why this documentary didn't cover that, but this home was the home that belonged to Terry, who Manson had beef with because Terry rejected him from getting a deal with the Beach Boys.
On the walls with Tate's blood.
The next day, the shock and horror of the killings hit the mainstream news cycle.
And the reenactment that I showed y'all was pretty accurate as to what actually went down, by the way, as well.
So now you guys kind of have like a whole visual of what went down.
Only for another to follow the very same day.
After seven.
And I pinned the crime scene photos as well for you guys so you guys can really like know what the hell happened.
Terrible, man.
Really, really bad.
One of the worst crime scenes I've seen.
Several hours of driving around Los Angeles neighborhoods.
The family members involved in the Tate killings, now including Les Van Houghton, found their way into the home of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca.
They too were murdered and the work.
Okay, so this was a couple guys that was murdered.
I'm going to show you the reenactment for this one as well.
Rise, death to pigs, and helter skelter, which was spelled wrong and had an A in it, were written on the walls in blood.
The sheer brutality of these murders, the fame of the victims, and the horrifying nature of the crime scenes placed only one day apart sent the greater Los Angeles area and the world into shock.
Why was this happening?
Gun prices got guys, guns got sold out and attack dogs that were being sold for like 100 bucks went for like $2,000 back then.
Los Angeles was going crazy.
It was like as bad as, remember when we covered the Night Stalker guys?
It was almost as bad as that.
When he was going wild in the 80s and everyone started buying guns, same exact situation.
Because these murders were random.
So no one knew what the hell was going on.
So let's fast forward here to the next murder, which was literally about 24 hours later.
Okay.
This is the Sharon Tate one.
Because this girl was at both murders.
Okay.
So now I couldn't feel any relief.
So Manson gets in, right?
There was still that sense of dread.
Found, I recall, a pillowcase.
This was the prosecutor for that, for that case, for the Manson murders.
Into the house with instructions to kill them.
Hold on, let's go.
All right.
So they pull up, right?
And Manson goes inside first.
It's like, let me show you how this is done, because he didn't like how they did the Sharon Tate murders because it was very sloppy.
You know what I mean?
There was blood everywhere.
People almost escaped.
As you guys can see, a lot of people got killed outside of the house.
So Manson's like, yo, yeah, what are y'all doing?
Is this amateur hour?
Let me show you guys how this is done.
So they picked this house at random.
this married couple um doing pretty well one guy ran like a it's not random supermarket chain i'll explain that later why was this wasn't random these two no i wasn't at all random no okay go ahead why did why they picked them okay so i'm trying to find the name but apparently um the family used to live in a house next to this couple's house and they were friends with a guy i can't remember if it was a producer or something but um he was he was neighbors with these people and
these people got kicked out of that house because of the noise and the complaints because they will make like drug powders and shit and music and whatever and And these people will complain to the police.
So they got kicked out.
And, you know, I don't know if I said earlier that Charles Manson was looking for reasons, right, to kill people to depict the police, like to this, to make the police go other ways because of the Garnie Henchman murder with this guy, Bobby.
So he was trying to find people to kill.
So they will believe that it's the Black Panthers killing a killing spree instead of the Bobby guy.
So he chose these people because he remembered that these people will complain and was the people that got kicked out of the house when they were living with the with the with the guy neighbor with the neighbors.
So these guys were tied to a neighbor that he didn't get along with.
Yeah.
That's what it sounds like.
No, they they lived next to these guys.
They were neighbors with these people, the le Bianca.
Yeah, the La Bianca, the victims, were neighbors with someone that people that Manson had an issue with.
No, they didn't have an issue.
He was friends with this guy.
I can't remember the name.
I think it was a producer.
If you guys know it, you can just find it so that they don't mention him anywhere.
But anyways, yeah, they were friends with these people and they got kicked out because of the of the complaints of the Le Bianca that will make them to police.
Oh, okay.
So, okay.
So the La Bianca constantly called the police on them for noise complaints.
So Manson was like, fuck this shit.
We're going to.
Okay.
all right he was very i didn't hear that one Revengeful.
Can you find the I'm trying to find it?
So he goes in, confronts them with knives, right, and he ties them up.
And he comes back out.
Thanks.
Leslie, go on now.
Let's go with text.
Okay, I found the name.
So, so Manson will live with a former friend, well, former owner of this house.
His name was Harold True.
And he was an old friend that hosted the Manson family in the past.
So he chose the house next door who was the Leno and Rosemary LeBiancas because they will complain about the noise and shit when they were living there.
Okay.
Next door.
All right.
I'm sure you can read it.
All right.
So it wasn't random, I guess.
No, it wasn't that random.
He wanted to.
Can you hit Control Plus a few times?
He wanted people to believe it was random.
And then highlight it for the people where you just read it from.
We got to click on the screen.
Wait, wait, wait.
Angie, you got to click on it.
There you go.
There you go.
And then highlight that part so the people can actually see it.
It's right here.
Okay.
Charles Manson had personal connection to the law, had no personal connection to the La Bianca's.
Manson a bit disappointed with how sloppily the Sharon Tate murders were executed, CNN reported.
And so he and several of his followers went hunting for their next victims.
Manson led the group to the former house of Harold True, an old friend that had hosted the Manson family in the past.
Ultimately, Manson chose the house next door, Leno and Rosemary La Bianca's.
The La Bianca's were fairly ordinary people.
They were well off.
Leno was the corporate executive of state wholesale grocery company, according to former Los Angeles County prosecutor Stephen Kay, were featured on Manson the Woman.
Leno met and fell in love with his wife Rosemary while she was working as a waitress at a restaurant.
They were really nice people, Kay said.
Can you hit Ctrl Plus again, Angie?
Sure.
And then let me enlarge it on my end, too, so I can see this easier for y'all.
Where were you?
I was right.
Yeah, the La Bianca returned from a family trip, although they went home.
They stopped by the newsstand of John according to the book Helter Skeller by former Los Angeles District Attorney Vincent Pugliosi.
Pugliosi wrote that the Folkiano said he and the La Bianco's talked about Tate, the events of the day.
That was the big news, and that Rosemary seemed disturbed by the murders.
Focianos may have been the last to see the couple hours later.
The Manson family would drive up to their home.
What does it say?
The newscombos?
No, it doesn't say here.
I'm trying to find L Angie.
No, but I'd write it somewhere that it was because of the neighbors.
How do you pull up the article and not have it?
L. All right, we'll go back to this.
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I couldn't feel any relief.
There was still that sense of dread.
So now they got him tied up.
i mean i knew some people were going to be killed manson wasn't able to tie leno and rosemary's And then you guys could see here, very violent shit.
Raider said, the more I stabbed, the more fun it was.
So poor Rosemary had 41 stab wounds.
Lino had 26 stab wounds.
But in addition to that, they left a knife and a fork protruding from his body.
And Patricia Krenwenkel carved the word war on his stomach.
I'm pretty sure those photos are in the La Bianca's murder photos are also, guys, also in the pinned comment I just put for y'all if you guys want to see these images.
The police, when they arrived, found, if I recall, a pillowcase over the heads of Rosemary and Leno.
And there was a cord from a large lamp next to each of them wrapped around their neck very, very tightly.
And they wrote the words Helter Skelter on the refrigerator door in blood.
They wrote the words death to pigs and rise, R-I-S-C, on the wall of the living room.
And then this is the crazy part right here.
They showered there after the killings.
What do the killers do?
Well, they took a shower and then they had something to eat out of the refrigerator.
And then they proceeded to hitchhike back to Spawn Ranch.
Bro, crazy, man.
Crazy.
Zero morph, these remorse.
These individuals, man, pure evil.
Stay in the house and eat their food and shower and then just like leave like nothing happened and hitchhike your way back home.
Like, what the hell is going on here, bro?
Like, yo.
Who would be next?
The police had no idea what to think.
Over the next few months, they would follow lead after lead, hit dead end after dead end, and come up with nothing.
At first, the police didn't even think the two murder scenes were connected.
Instead, they believed the Tate murders were the result of a drug deal gone wrong, which, given the brutality of it, would have been hard to believe.
And for the public, it was.
People in the house were stabbed and shot repeatedly.
There was stuff written in blood on the walls.
That doesn't sound like your average drug deal gone wrong.
It wasn't until the fall when they would catch their break after Manson and some of his family members were arrested for stealing a car.
Of all things, it comes back to stealing a car.
Finally, the investigation got its big break.
Susan Atkins, proud of what she had done and wanting to share her glory, began telling cellmates about the murders.
She gave details.
Susan fucked up.
Details and names and even described her euphoria of obeying her Jesus Christ.
After months of confusion, dead ends, and fear for the residents of the Los Angeles community, they finally had their suspects.
The Manson family had been caught, and now it was time for the true circus to begin.
The trials of the century, with the most infamous cult in history, were off to the races, and it was more bizarre than anyone could have ever imagined.
The Manson family trials had it all.
A bombing, unhinged, and insane outbursts, smiling murderers, protesters, and even someone that switched sides.
The case itself cost the city of Los Angeles over half a million dollars, and the prosecutors were determined to find justice for the multiple slain people and their grieving families.
As Manson walked through the doors during his first days, real quick, just to show you guys kind of what's going on here, here's like some of the victims of um weapons that were used.
So, here was the fork, that's the fork that was used to carve war and that they used to stab that Patricia Cranwinkle used to carve war in the abdomen of Leno La Bianca after he was killed and then stuck it into it.
And this is after he was dead.
His chest when the body was found, it had this fork sticking out of it.
Wild, man!
That's a big fork, though.
Many were shocked.
There was the man that they had heard so much about who had convinced multiple people to carry out gruesome crimes.
What would you expect to see?
Maybe someone with a giant lingering presence, maybe some devil horns or bulging red eyes.
Well, that's not what walked out.
He was a five-foot-three man who appeared dazed by the hysteria surrounding him.
Maybe he loved the attention, maybe he hated it.
Either way, he certainly got plenty of it.
And just so you guys know, the Charles Manson that got arrested in the late 60s was not the same Charles Manson that I'm about to show you guys in these interviews.
He was way more chill and folklore and you know, charismatic and charm, charismatic, and charming.
Um, when he originally got arrested, he started going crazy later on.
So, I can really find the article I just found.
Um, he knew that the Lebiancas had money and he needed money to pay.
This is one of the theories, guys.
He wanted, he needed money to pay the straight Satans.
You know, remember that they biker again.
So, remember, they owe money to them because of the drugs and shit and their protection.
So, apparently, he wanted to strike them because he had participated in parties in this Lebianca house before, and he knew that this Le Bianca family had money.
And they, I, I knew, I know, I read it somewhere, I just can't find the article that the La Bianca apparently like contributed to getting kicked out when they were living with Harold True in the house next door.
So, yeah, okay, uh, we'll get back to it here.
He arrived with an X that he had carved into his forehead, which he declared was meant to resemble that he had X'd himself from our world.
The girls weren't much different.
And then they followed him, obviously, in his footsteps.
A photo of the three walking down the hallways, smiling, handcuffed together, stunned the world.
And their behavior during their trials wasn't much different.
Manson's hold on them became readily apparent when they, too, arrived with X's on their forehead.
This one in the middle looks like a man, yeah.
That's the uh other chick.
And just to show you guys how crazy these chicks were, here's some uh footage before the trial.
My question is, huh?
Are you saying, Yeah, do you see that evil look?
Hold on, are you saying that's relative?
Look at his look.
Hold on, that's relative, bro.
Come on, man.
Tell me this dude isn't on demon time.
Yeah, he will tell them, he will tell them before the trial, each trial, because they had a bunch of trials.
They will tell them to sing or to dance before or to just hold hands and start praying and stuff.
He will just make up like weird cult, you know, routines and stuff.
Well, you guys are about to see it right now.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Hold on.
That look is wild.
Creepy.
She originally lied about Manson's role in the murders to protect him during their first trial.
They're singing.
Guys, they're singing as they're walking to their trial for murder one.
Craziness, man.
You know, um, all right, let's keep going here with the one day.
Then there was the one that turned witness, Linda Cath.
And that's the blonde from the uh reenactment that I showed y'all.
Sabian.
She was only 21 years old and participated in the Tate murders only by being the lookout.
After she fled the ranch with her child, who had been kept separate from her the majority of the time, she was the dynamite witness of prosecution.
Well, actually, she fled without her child and then got reunited with her child later on after the Mansons were arrested.
She testified about she ran all the way to New Mexico.
The brainwashing, the life of the family members, and the fact that Manson, well, he had planned it all.
Meanwhile, she walked through the halls facing death threats from her previous family members.
You'll kill us all, they screamed at her.
While she was on the stand, her once-trusted messiah looked her in the eyes, ran his fingers across his throat, and told her, she had already told three lies.
It wouldn't be the last of his outbursts.
It was just one of many.
Yeah, he lunged at the judge, too.
One of the most bizarre also came during her 18-day-long testimony.
Manson, completely unprovoked, stood up in the middle of the courtroom, turned to the jury, and held up a copy of the LA Times that featured none other than Richard Nixon.
Manson guilty, Nixon declared, read the headline.
While it may seem random, this was a carefully planned attempt to cause a mistrial.
The jury had to individually state under oath that the president's guilty verdict did not influence them, which it didn't.
And so the circus trial continued.
22 weeks of testimony later, after the prosecution finally almost six months of trial, guys.
He rested its case.
The defense stunned literally everyone when they announced, without calling a single witness, that they were also resting.
The Manson girls promptly leapt from their seats and announced that now, after previously refusing, they wanted to testify.
Wait, what?
Yo, hold on, bro.
What?
Well, I would, if I was their lawyer, what the I'd be like, it doesn't matter.
What you think?
You ain't talking.
You ain't saying shit, man.
A day later, Manson followed suit.
While the girls' attorney refused to question their clients due to the belief that they cut their hair here, guys, because Manson had cut his hair.
When he shaved his head, they shaved their head.
You're going to like, but pretty much they copied everything he did.
You could see the X on their heads, shaved heads, etc.
They followed him, man.
It would be likened to aiding and abetting a suicide.
Manson got his moment to shine.
His hour-long testimony was rife with outlandish statements and multiple outbursts.
But one of the most famous lines came when he said this.
These children that come at you with knives, they are your children.
You taught them.
I didn't teach them.
I just tried to help them stand up.
Zero accountability.
Following his testimony, Manson's attorney tried one last Hail Mary pass, blaming Tex Watson, but it wouldn't.
And here's Sex Watson right here, just so you guys know.
Boom.
Here is Charles Denson Tex Watson, born December 2nd, 1945, is an American murderer who was central member of the Manson family, led by Charles Manson.
On August 9th, 1969, Watson, Patricia Kren Wenkel, and Susan Atkins murdered pregnant actress Sharon Tate, J.C. Bring, Wachichik Frykowski, Abigail Folger, and Stephen Parent at 150 Cielo Drive and Benedict Kenned in Los Angeles.
The next night, Watson traveled to Los Feliz, Los Angeles, and participated in the murders of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca.
Watts was found guilty and murdered and put on death row in 1971 after two years in county jail.
This is him now.
Still looks like he's still alive.
This guy was an all-American athlete, by the way, guys.
You know, very fit guy, obviously able to impose his will on his victims.
So he is still alive and he's not Christian, a Christian pastor in the jail.
Oh, he is?
Yeah, he became Christian.
Okay.
They always do, right?
Work in their favor.
The trial was over, and after nine months, the most expensive trial in American history at that time, the family were all sentenced to die.
I think OJ Simpson ended up beating them later on.
Their sentences would later be commuted to life sentences after California abolished the death penalty.
The trial of the century was officially over.
And though other members of the Manson family would continue on committing crimes, one even tried to assassinate President Gerald Ford, the infamous members involved with the La Bianca and Tate murders were now behind bars.
So, what's next?
I know.
Through all the trials, the bizarre...
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Our growth of the family and the murders, one thing remained the same.
People believed that everyone involved was evil and beyond reform.
But through the decades, it comes into question if that's totally true.
Was the family evil?
Were the girls seen laughing at their trial simply born to commit horrendous and jaw-dropping crimes?
Or were they simply brainwashed by a master manipulator?
As Manson spent the rest of his life in prison, nothing about him seemed to change.
He was interviewed multiple times by journalists and FBI agents.
And I'll show you guys some of those interviews.
Alike and portrayed the same wild, narcissistic personality every time.
John Douglas helped develop the behavioral science unit with the FBI.
Do you know the show Mindhunter?
Yeah, it's based on him.
He interviewed Manson after watching multiple reporters try.
Every single one of them faced the same issue, he says.
And guys, what an FBI profiler does is he basically comes in and interviews individuals that are convicted of heinous crimes to kind of get a profile.
And what they basically do is they're like, okay, we know that this type of individual is prone to commit these types of murders, etc.
So when there is a crime that goes down in the future, they're able to look at the crime scene, look at the evidence, and be able to get a profile of that individual based on prior individuals that committed similar crimes so that they can go ahead and get a target area to look for.
So for example, you know, serial killers a lot of times tend to be Caucasian males in their mid, you know, in their late 20s to mid-30s that have certain types of interests, hobbies, personality traits, or whatever.
So what they're able to do is they have this body of work of people that commit this type of crime.
So when they go to other crime scenes, they're able to give the police that are there that don't have any leads, okay, you're looking more than likely for a Caucasian male, you know, introverted, probably works in some type of industry that requires XYZ.
And they're able to kind of build a profile to help the investigating detectives in that case find them in the right direction to find their individual.
So the Manson murders and a lot of these serial killers in the 70s actually helped FBI profilers build legitimate profiles of serial killers that would, which would make it easier for detectives later on to identify and kind of have an idea of where to look.
That's what my hunter is based.
This series is pretty good, guys.
Go watch it.
Manson dominated them.
That's just who he was, what he did.
He sat on tables, chairs, anything to make himself seem larger than the person he was talking to.
He would rattle on about the dislike for society and him reflecting society back to everyone.
But beyond everything, Manson was simply just incredibly charismatic.
His sing-song demeanor and his ability to speak were intoxicating, and that's how he got people to follow him.
Even in prison, after everything, Manson developed a long-term relationship with a woman that lasted right up until the day he died at age 83.
But was Charles Manson ever reformed?
No.
He remained in trouble in prison throughout the years, causing issues between the staff, the other prisoners, whoever.
Remember that ex?
Well, it later became a swastika after he joined the Aryan Brotherhood.
So there was no reforming for him.
As for the family, that's a whole other story.
Susan Atkins, the same one that obsessively talked about her crimes in prison, exposing the family and laughing during her trial, allegedly became a model citizen while she was in prison.
She was married twice, became a teacher to the others in prison, and maintained a clean record.
The scariest of the Manson girls became a staunch Christian and apologized for her role in the horrific murders.
Now, I have a very interesting interview for you guys here of her right after about five years after being convicted in 1971.
We'll watch some of this interview.
Susan Atkins, okay.
And remember, she was the one that fucked up and blabbed their mouth and broke the case wide open about killing the Tates.
Because keep in mind, she killed a celebrity, a lot of clout.
Oh, yeah, I killed that bitch.
It was because of her that they go, oh, persecuted.
Exactly.
Susan Atkins is 28 now.
She's just ended her first seven years of a life term.
She has spent five of them here at the County Women's Institution in San Bernardino County.
She's just had her first parole hearing and been turned down.
But the people who work with her here say that she's made a remarkable change in the last two years.
They say she's become a devout Christian, and she says she wants only to serve God.
Susan Atkins feels that her horrifying experience with drugs can be a lesson to those that use them or think about using them.
Today, she says her bizarre behavior was born out of Manson's evil persuasiveness and fed by her constant drug use.
During her Manson years, Susan Atkins dropped acid at least 300 times, and she smoked, swallowed, shot 300 times.
Holy, yo, that was like every day.
And guys, I want y'all to understand this whole Manson situation of them going crazy, it really only lasted for about two years.
They really started killing only in 1969.
1968, 1967, they were chilling in San Francisco.
Once he moved them down to Los Angeles, right, in 68, you know, he was still doing the music thing.
It was all kumbaya.
It was peace.
It was love, all that stuff.
It wasn't until 1969 when he got rejected earlier in the year that all this violent stuff started happening, guys.
So he didn't really have this cult going on for that long.
Okay, because remember, he got out of jail in 1967-ish.
Then he went to San Francisco.
Once he was in San Francisco, he stayed there for a period of time.
Then he said, F this went down to Los Angeles and he got that place that they had down outside the movie set.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
And they lived there for like a year peacefully.
And then once the music stuff didn't pan out, that's when he started going crazy.
I mean, he was already crazy, but they started really going crazy and had more violent tendencies after the situation with the altercation, the drug issues.
They started getting paranoid.
So they started arming up, having guns, knives on the location.
We're going to have this war, Helter, Skelter, whites against the blacks.
And then once he got rejected by Terry and the Beach Boys, that's when he went over the edge and started killing people.
And then the first place that they went was where the house that Terry used to own that was being rented to Sharon Tate.
Mind you, they were living in several places way before the ranch.
Yes.
And after.
And then in every place, they will get kicked out because they were very like, they will cause trouble.
Wow, doing drugs, playing music.
Yeah.
Up at odd hours.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
They got kicked out from Dennis Wilson's house.
They got kicked off from this guy's Harold True.
They were living in different places.
They only believed they wouldn't get kicked out of Star Ranch.
And it was because, you know, the owner was a blind guy that liked to be taken care of.
I mean, guys, people that do drugs, I mean, like, they're sleeping all day.
They're eating your food.
They're not paying for anything.
They don't have jobs.
You know, they're just like free spirits.
Like, bro, that shit gets annoying.
You know what I mean?
Like, you're like, bro, get the hell out of here.
You're just freeloading off my shit.
So it gets annoying after a while.
So, you know, they're going back and forth in other places and everything else like that.
So yeah, they're huge liabilities, guys.
So once they didn't get that record done, you know what I mean?
That's when the violence, like, he was like, yo, I'm getting my get back.
Imagine if he had gotten that record deal.
It would have been different.
You know what I mean?
...in sight.
And although she had no drugs in her first five years of imprisonment, she says it took her that long to fully regain her consciousness, to even begin to realize what she had done.
She hasn't spoken with a reporter since the trial in 1970.
She got word to me that she wanted to talk about the dangers of drug use, that she also wanted to reveal something new about the murders.
What happened that night you all went to Sharon Tate?
Yo, that 1970s drip, baby.
What really happened?
Well, I remember getting in the car with Tex and Tex Watson and I lived to code.
Three code fennels, actually.
And before I ever got in a car, Tex and I had our own special little stash of cocaine.
I think it was cocaine and methadone.
I'm not sure which.
And we got a speed and we both smelled at some speed and got in the car.
We were very, very wired.
That's what they did before their murders, guys, taking, you know, speed and cocaine, get the heart rate going, get themselves, you know, amped up to, you know, do what they're going to do.
And this girl was a topless go-go dancer when Manson met her.
So this girl came, this, yeah, she was, yeah, basically, this girl was for the streets.
She belongs to the streets.
The other two girls, though, actually came from decent backgrounds, two-parent households.
One was a beauty, like a high school beauty pageant chick.
The other one had good grades.
Tex was a good student in high school.
But they all left homes.
Yeah, they all left their homes.
Yep.
But they came from good backgrounds.
But again, what did I tell y'all before?
What did Manson sell?
Manson sold that alternative lifestyle to these people, just like David Koresh sold, oh, join me in the Branch Dividians, you have religion.
Woo!
I'm going to deliver you guys.
Woo, right?
And then you galvanize and unite the people through that.
Manson did it the other way.
I'm going to give you guys freedom from religion.
I'm going to give you guys freedom from societal norms.
I'm going to give you guys freedom from the constraints that you've been bogged down with in conservative America in the 1960s.
Because remember, guys, this was all revolutionary back then, right?
Like girls, you know, being able to be free and free love and also, this is all new stuff, guys.
Revolutionary stuff.
So you got Manson that's selling you this, right?
And he's giving you drugs, plenty of drugs.
Like, yeah, you're going to buy in hook line and sinker.
And then you got younger personal people that are trying to rebel.
Yeah, they're going to see this guy as a leader.
Well, honestly, this chick looks like the chick from the ring right before she became right before she turned into demon ten.
Oh man, facts.
Yeah, and she was the one allegedly that stabbed Sharon Tate and didn't want to give mercy.
So she was 100% involved in a lot of these murders, stabbing these chicks.
Stabbing the victim, sorry.
We drove to the house with instructions to kill everyone in the house.
From Charlie.
Yeah.
And not just that, but we were instructed to go all the way down every house, hit every house on the street.
And kill all the people.
All the people in all those houses.
Um, and we went into the house, and I remember that, guys.
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I mean, hell, look at all the notes Angie took.
Uh, she did one up for y'all, but it just liked the video anyway, man.
She made it one mistake, it's no big deal.
She took a lot of notes for y'all.
Most other girls aren't gonna do that.
So, uh, shout out to Angie for helping out.
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God damn it as we went in.
Um, a car came up to the driveway, and I remember text getting out and without saying anything, they were gunned by a shot.
I was in the bushes, and uh, that's when the young boy Steven Current was killed in the car outside.
Right, the people in the house were all brought into the living room and tied up.
And I remember that Vortec Bakowski, I believe is his name.
I had tied his hands with a towel and then was instructed to kill him.
And I raised the knife that I had in my hand, and I couldn't put the knife down.
I could not, I couldn't bring it down.
It was just as though there was a force there that held my wrist, and I couldn't move.
And as he's saying there was a force that had her hands, so that they were the ones stabbing.
Essentially, he saw that I couldn't move, and he very easily undid the ties, or maybe she's trying to say she didn't stab him.
Let's see you just with, and he and I began to fight.
And I remember I was screaming for help, and he was screaming for help.
And then text came and helped me.
And I was left to sit and watch Sharon Tate.
And about that time, I can remember seeing people just scattering in different places.
Oh, of course, Texas is the murderer now and running in different places.
And I was left sitting with Sharon Tate, and she was talking to me.
And I remember that I had absolutely, I could have, I felt nothing, I felt absolutely nothing for her.
Um, as she begged, so she was talking to Sharon Tate, is what she's talking about, yeah, for her life and for the life of the baby.
Yeah, you see, that's what I said, yeah.
And uh, I remember when we first went in, one of the people said, Who are you?
and Tex said, I'm the devil, and I'm here to do the devil's business.
Yeah, there we go.
I'm the devil, and I'm here to do the devil's business, bro.
Like, come on, that dude texts is crazy.
And I remember that in my conscience, it's so alive in me, even just recalling it.
I remember that what the fuck?
Yo, yeah, crazy.
The chat, this nigga said, say so.
I'd break her back.
Like, what the fuck?
The fuck, bro.
I had gone so far, and there was no turning back.
That even if I had wanted to run, even if I had wanted to leave, I couldn't.
It was like I was caught in something that I had no control over.
I had absolutely no say-so as to what was happening there.
I was just like a tool in the hands of the devil, is the only way I can put it.
And I believe that it was by the grace of God that my hand did not go down with that night on Vorc Bakowski's chest.
I believe that night, yeah, text, of course, not taking accountability.
And I thought that phrase even though she was the one that took credit originally for stabbing Sharon Tate, yeah.
But sorry, you were saying that I thought that phrase was just made up for the movie that Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but it was real.
No, no, he actually said that shit.
Uh, did you think that I'm that I'm here to do the devil's work?
Yeah, that dude's text was on some real diva time, man.
Well, I can ask you now.
What did Tex really do there?
What I saw happening in text, the way he moved, the viciousness and cold It was just like seeing somebody go crazy with more power than I've ever seen anybody.
I don't think he was in control of himself.
I think that he was in their own human strength could do what Tex did.
Charles Manson was in control of it, right?
Yo, the journalist is like, yo, come on, man.
Stop the cap.
Yeah, as far as giving orders, but I don't think Charles Manson's mind was in control of Texas' mind that night.
I think that it was a higher power than that.
Charlie's human too.
Yeah.
And his mental powers are just as limited, maybe not as limited as other humans, but that there was an evil force in control of Tex that night.
Yeah, he did things that you've heard stories, I'm sure, of people who have lifted up cars off of other people, how they have superhuman strength.
Well, Tex had that kind of strength that night.
But not for good.
It was for evil.
He was harming and hurting people.
Just, I mean, to her defense, he was a star athlete, tall, good shape, but come on, man.
And he was on speed.
But, bro, y'all were definitely helping him, man.
Y'all were definitely helping him.
He wouldn't have killed six people by himself.
Like, come on, man.
I only saw him kill those people.
And then I've heard later that he has said himself that he was responsible for all the deaths.
At the Tate House.
At the Tate House, yes.
For all the deaths of the text.
Come on.
Man, y'all are watching female nature even when it comes to serial killing.
Are you trying to lay the blame off on him?
No.
No.
What do you think is the point of this?
That the truth be told, that the truth be made known.
I tried to take blame from Tex and from Charlie and Pam and from Leslie by taking and saying that I had killed Sharon Tate and that I had killed Gary Hinman.
I tried to take some of the blame and put it on myself because I thought that was my part at that point.
And it was a lie.
And in this room, we're all the survivors of those victims of yours and the others, their families and their friends.
What would you say to them?
Well, about me now is that I'm not the woman that I was in 1969.
I'm a new creature in Christ.
I've been completely spiritually, mentally, and almost physically bored.
Yo, y'all in the chat are fucking hilarious.
Dude, KF goes, ain't no way he went 6-0.
Though my outside changed all that much, the inside of me has changed.
That I love them with a love that I don't think any words that I could tell them could express, but only by living a life that may help somebody else by preventing maybe somebody else from going down the same road, by preventing other survivors of such a terrible thing is the only way I'm sorry.
You don't think she's sorry?
I'm not sorry, yeah.
No, of course not.
Yeah, I don't think so either.
And at the end of the day, let's say, like, you know, this dude Tex was the one that did all the finishing blows.
It don't matter.
You were there.
You helped out.
You assisted.
You held them down.
You know what I mean?
You definitely got a couple stabs in there.
Come on, man.
And she still looks like she's got some demonym.
Yeah, like, bro, she definitely, she got a couple of stabs in there.
Like, there's no way she didn't stab a couple of people.
They stabbed Sharon Tate.
I think it was 64 times.
64 times.
16 times for Sharon Tate.
But I think it was 16 times for Sharon Tate, but the others were stabbed more.
It was like 100.
Yeah, but like altogether it was over 100 stabs.
Yeah.
It's a lot for one person just.
Yeah, you're telling me Tex was doing that by himself.
Man, I don't know.
Arm is not that strong.
Like, bro, man.
Like, come on.
And you're doing it with force and you're holding him down, man.
I'm getting tired doing this right now.
There's no way he did this shit himself, bro.
And he was chasing him down.
People are running around in the yards and shit.
Come on.
Come on.
No, there's no way.
What is this?
I call this the Mike Myers.
You know what I mean?
This is the Mike Myers exercise.
30 sets of this shit.
Like, come on, man.
Bro, Halloween.
Did Halloween even come out back then?
No, Halloween wasn't even out yet.
Oh, and they will totally believe they will.
Charles Mansu will tell them that Halloween was every day, and they will believe that Halloween was every day because they didn't know the day and time.
You know, yeah.
So, another technique that he did with them.
Yeah, go ahead, Angie.
Tell them about this.
Yeah, yeah, he will make them believe that Halloween was every day.
So, every day was October 31st.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did.
Um, that's another power technique, by the way, guys.
When people don't know the time, the dates, etc., that allows you to create more a dynamic of power with them.
So, he they wouldn't know what the hell was going on.
He'd be the one.
And here's the other thing, too.
When he used to drug them, he would take less LSD than them.
Actually, matter of fact, this was a very common tactic.
Um, when they were talking to Saddam Hussein, uh, the FBI agent that debriefed them, uh, Ali Suhan, I think his name is FBI agent.
Um, when you talk to Saddam Hussein, one of the things that they did, guys, is he Saddam never knew the day and time.
And Ali would, to build rapport, would tell him the day and time.
And so, it's like a rapport-building thing.
It's a way to assert dominance and gain rapport.
And also, yeah, he wouldn't let them leave.
There was a time that he wouldn't let them leave the house or anything.
So they wouldn't know anything about the serial world because society was wrong and it was corrupted and shit.
Yeah.
And he would tell them, don't think.
Yeah.
And he was following up with the date and time and the news and everything because I think back then was the Vietnam War that was going on.
So he thought that people were coming from him for him later on.
That's why he was so paranoid because it was the, I think it was the Vietnam War that was going on.
And he was so like, okay, there is a war coming up now and it's a race war, apocalyptic race war.
So he was like all paranoic about that.
Yeah.
Hold on.
I got it.
I got to check this out real quick.
Man, was the movie Halloween even out yet?
Bro, hold on.
I think he was in the 80s.
No, I don't think the movie Halloween came out till 1976.
Let me see here.
How we 1978.
Okay.
I was wrong.
So yeah, Halloween didn't even come out yet.
And this dude is out here doing the Mike Myers going like this, bro.
There's no way that he did that by himself.
There's no way.
Yeah.
Going back to her interview, we'll finish it up and then we'll show some of the Manson stuff.
This cap is crazy.
Say what I would have to say to him.
I just love him.
I feel for them.
I feel their pain.
I feel their sorrows and their loss.
And I didn't feel that years ago.
I didn't feel anything for him.
Bro, y'all are hilarious.
Myron, she might be right.
He might have stole her kills.
So maybe she just assists experience points.
Amen.
Y'all fucked up.
I still feel pain when I think about her and that she's not here.
And I don't think that anything that I could say could ease that pain in any of the survivors' hearts.
And only God can take care of that.
Only God can give them an assurance that their loved ones are with him.
And I believe that with my whole heart.
I believe that those people that died that night are with God and in their peace.
And that's the only thing that I can tell them.
And I believe that with my whole heart.
This woman is.
That by the grace of God, the survivors will also see their loved ones again one day.
You'd have to understand what...
Yeah, that journalist like a person didn't get confused.
I mean, look at his face, bro.
Come on, man.
She looks like the rain chick.
He's like, bro, he's like, yo, get y'all niggas don't pay me enough for this.
You know what I mean?
All right, so let's see.
You guys get the idea.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Well, you have something you want to show?
Yeah.
Okay.
Right here.
All right.
Wait, I can't show it.
Oh, yeah, I got you.
Yeah.
Oh, that's okay.
Yeah, this is the ring.
Yeah.
Okay, tell me if it's-wait, this one here, right here.
The girl.
Tell me, tell me.
She does kind of look like her.
It does look like her.
What the hell?
Yeah, the ring.
Man, I don't know.
I'm not a fan of PG-13 horror movies.
I think PG-13 horror movies suck.
Wait, what?
This is one of the best.
Well, no, this was like a whole other level after the exorcist.
Let's go into.
So here's Charles Manson, guys.
We'll play some of this stuff.
We're not going to play the whole 44 minutes, but obviously, this boy, crazy.
You can see he got the Squatsuka sign right there.
When I stand on the mountain and I say, do it, it gets done.
If it don't get done, then I'll move on it.
And that's the last thing in the world you want me to do.
I knew that people would die.
I knew that there would be killing.
Our acts cannot be forgiven.
These are the women that committed the murders.
Every one of you out there has tried to kill me for the last for the last 25 years and I'm still here.
Ha ha ha.
Now what?
This nigga, bro.
Yeah, you don't care.
Nine unknown intruders broke into the fashionable Los Angeles home of movie director Roman Polanski and his pregnant wife, the actress Sharon Tate.
There, they slaughtered her and four others.
One night later, another home was invaded, and a middle-aged grocery executive and his wife were killed with equal brutality.
In two days, an entire city was seized by fear.
But it was months before the crime burger lined a store, got a straw hat full of dimes, and came to LA.
I turned 21 years old in the LA County jail.
I wasn't out but a hot second.
I've been in jail all my life.
It was one of the curious facts about Charles Manson.
He would often manage to commit small-time crimes that nonetheless violated federal laws and would bring tough penalties.
And on a number of levels, his mind intrigued at any given time.
Pat Grenwinkle was another early member of Manson's growing family.
I met Charlie when I was living at the beach with my sister, and she came home and said to go down to a friend's house, which I did.
And Charlie was there, and he was playing the guitar.
And so I was introduced to him there.
Which got makeup on what jail?
And that point when we said, look like a man, yeah.
All I remember is just crying.
How does she look more like a female now in prison than she did when she was out?
Like, what the hell's going on here?
Crying to this man.
I mean, he was like, because he said, oh, you're beautiful.
I couldn't believe that.
I just started crying.
American Texan, people would cut certain techs.
All right.
Let's go back to crazy ass Charlie.
You know what?
Hold on.
This interview is better.
I just wanted y'all to get that part in a second.
Are you so afraid of that that that's got your mind locked up?
No, I'm so I don't understand.
Go to the morgue and look at all them dead people.
Explain this to me, though.
I'm not scared.
Explain to me simply why that house that night.
Why they're not.
She must be kidding herself that.
No, no, no.
His handcuffs, he's handcuffed and it's chained to his own.
I'm like, what?
Why did he go there?
Because Texas niggas in the chest said, let him cook.
Yo.
Oh, man.
All right, before I get into this interview, let me go ahead and read some of these chats.
You guys are hilarious, man.
Actually, no, no, we'll keep going.
We'll keep going.
We'll keep going.
In case they cut me off.
Yeah, in case they cut me off.
I said, been there before.
And he went to a familiar place.
And why did they kill people that night?
What did they think?
Because they freaked out, man.
Tex was stoned.
You know, he got everybody was loaded, man.
He said he wasn't.
One in Dall blame Tex.
He said he was coming off in LASD.
A little speed.
Well, not around me.
He didn't have no speed because I wouldn't allow no speed on that ranch.
I kick ass over there.
Stop the cow.
There's a lot of that stuff around me.
I take a little grass, a little LSD, but none of that was destructive.
You can ask any of them other girls that'll tell you the other side of this game.
I don't play, I don't play drugs.
I play light, like, you know, like Dibby-Dabby chipping, but I don't really get down heavy with it.
What did they think they were doing?
Are we ready?
Here, man.
We're ready here.
Okay, ready.
War.
What did they think they were doing?
We are at war now.
But what did they think they were doing for you?
They wasn't doing anything for me.
What did they think they were doing for you?
Okay, okay.
If you were me and I am you, everything you do is for you, it's for me too.
So what did they do?
If you're in my mind, he knows exactly what he's doing.
This guy's smart, man.
He's out here playing, you know, chess with this lady as far as like answering your questions and deflecting and shit.
And you are me and we are all together.
And then who's responsible for a calm together over me right now?
It's all his fault.
Oh, no, no, it's his fault.
No, we put another false face on it.
It's Halloween.
It's your fault.
So now, wait a minute.
Criminal behavior is the same.
It's mundane in most minds.
Criminals always go to a familiar place.
Tex had been to that house.
Tex went back to that house.
Here's the conversation.
Indian Mesa.
We got four campfires.
We've got four queens on a motorcycle gang, a motorcycle group that rides SS motorcycles out of Venice, Santa Monica.
So we're riding motorcycles and we're all up there and we've got these fires going.
We've got this big problem that came up.
I had to go shoot somebody for Tex.
Bobby's in prison.
My brother's in jail.
Now, understand my mind.
All my life I've been in jail because I didn't have anyone to get me out of jail.
I didn't have no brother outside.
So I spent years and years and years and years just because nobody would come and sign their name and get me out of jail.
And the jail couldn't let me out because I didn't have no place to go.
So I spent 22 years in prison because I didn't have nobody outside.
I can't let somebody that's with me stay in jail.
It just, you know, it's not in my makeup, man.
I got to get my brother out of jail.
So you needed money, did you?
Well, that's that's here's the division between your mind and my mind.
Here's where the chamber opens up.
When you get in trouble, you go to your mother.
You call up mother.
I ain't got no mother to call.
Well, you go to the bank, draw some money, buy a lawyer.
I ain't got no money.
I can't go to no lawyer.
I go to a lawyer.
I ain't got enough money.
All these, I got a little money.
And anytime anybody knows anything about lawyers, when you got a little money, they're taking that.
They'll take the little money unless you sue them in court.
You dig?
In other words, like, I don't have enough money to go to the lawyer to get Bobby out.
So everybody stand around.
I said, pay me.
Pay me what you owe me now.
And they said, well, how do we do that?
I said, get my brother out of jail.
He said, how do we do it?
I said, I don't know how you do it.
I don't care how you do it.
Do it now.
Do it.
And they said, how do we do it?
I said, don't ask me how to do it.
I don't want to be no part of no conspiracy.
But however you do it, do it and get it done now.
And they said, well, we don't know what to do.
We'll get a lawyer.
And then the girl, fun fact, the girl that he that testified against them that got immunity, she actually was supposed to go check out Bobby, the guy that had, you know, killed the first guy, Hinman.
She was supposed to go visit him in jail.
But that day, what she did was she took the car and ran off instead.
Yeah, so that's how she escaped.
Here, Leslie and Patty, they said, if we get a lawyer, all they're going to do is lie and take our money anyway.
And she ran away to New Mexico, hit low.
And then once the Mansons got the Manson family got arrested, she came back out of hiding, testified, and got her daughter back.
It was making no sense.
Man, you guys, he never admitted that he went to the La Bianca house or he was in the Tates.
Like he, for him, it was like he always said like he didn't participate, that it was other people.
Yeah, he never confessed the shit.
He never confessed anything.
Never.
Blaming on your lawyers.
If your lawyers ain't lying and taking the money of the poor people, then the poor people got a court to stand on and it got rights as individuals with a revolution they fought in 1776 that guarantees rights to a common ordinary farmer, poor man on the street like me, a rebel.
I've got my rights in a 76 courtroom.
If you don't give me my rights in the courtroom, then I become your King George.
And I've got all the rights then.
And when I stand on the mountain and I say, do it, it gets done.
If it don't get done, then I don't move on it.
And that's the last thing in the world you want me to do because I got that Confederate sword in the kitchen.
Don't invoke me.
Do it.
Get it done.
How do we do it?
I don't know.
I don't want to be involved in it.
I keep a close watch on this heart of mine in Japan.
They call it ninja.
I don't get involved in violence.
I'm not a violent human being.
Stop the cap.
Did you tell the women to do their witchy things?
I said, if you're going to do something, leave something witchy.
Just like I would tell you, if you're going to do something, do it well.
And leave something witchy.
Leave a sign to let the world know that you were there.
Have a good day.
Did you tell them which words?
No.
Pig.
No.
Helter, Skelter.
Arise.
Nope.
It's not my vocabulary.
That's not my generation.
I keep telling you that.
Stop the cap.
We know that he was a big fan of the Beatles and Helter Skelter with one of his favorite songs.
Leslie said, in the car on the way to the La Bianca house, you said, this time, make sure they're not scared like last night.
Oh, no.
It may have been something like this.
Yeah, I remember something like that, but I don't remember exactly the right words.
I don't remember exactly the right words, but that's a simple, that's a simple philosophy from China.
That's a Chinese philosophy.
If you're going to go to war and you're fighting your enemy and you kill him when he's afraid, it's a bad home and it's bad.
It's bad.
So you try to absorb the fear.
I think the Hindus use that word karma to bounce a karma.
And that's why you reassured Mr. LaBianca?
No, no, I mentioned that in the conversation about something.
You know what it was about, I don't know, you know, but I remember the conversation.
Look, listen, my words, I live and die by my words.
I've lived and died by my words all my life for 45 years in prison.
I keep my word, my word is my bond.
I welcome my word.
I live on it.
Okay, that's actually really important, guys.
That's a big reason why Charlie went so hard after the record people because they said they would call him back.
They'd probably get him a deal, blah, blah, blah.
So when he didn't get the deal, he went wild because that's a thing to him.
Whether he actually keeps his word, his bond.
That's one thing.
But to him, when they didn't keep their word in his eyes, he looked at it as a huge sign of betrayal.
And that's why he reacted so violently on top of all the paranoia of taking the drugs and the racial war that he was waging, etc.
Oh, actually, back to the Helter Skelter song.
Yeah.
They then later on interviewed Paul McCarney, that was the writer of the song.
And he said that it wasn't about like a race war, like they all believed.
It was about like just making loud music and have fun and shit.
Oh, yeah, of course.
They're going to say that.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, he's going to be like, well, Manson is trying to kill black people to my music.
Boom, bucka.
I'm good.
It has nothing to do with me, guys.
Yeah.
And many people didn't believe him because, you know, there are some conspiracy theories about like some sons about the Beatles because they talk about some deep shit there.
So yeah, that's that's why Charles Muslim was like, Yeah, this son is about a public apocalyptic race war and shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you want the world to let you alone and turn on listen?
I broke no law.
Try to understand that.
I broke no law.
I didn't step out of line with God and I didn't step out of line with the man.
I did not break the law.
Now, I told those people the same thing that the United States president would tell them.
The only way that you can dispensate life and death is you have to be willing to give yourself to that cause.
You can't fight a revolution.
You can't do anything unless you're willing to submit yourself to that cause.
In other words, that's what you learn in the military.
Did you tell them to mutilate so that it would be memorable so that people wouldn't know something was going on?
Bad or wrong.
Did you tell them to do it in a memorable way?
Hey, I told you what I told him.
If you're going to move, you're going to do something, do it with your soul and your heart.
Do it right, man.
Don't half step on it.
Did they do it right?
I don't know.
That's up to them.
They live with that.
They're responsible for their actions.
I'm responsible for my actions.
This is wild.
You guys could see here.
I mean, we could keep playing it if you guys want, but I wanted y'all to kind of see how he moves in interviews, right?
He's like singing.
He's like not taking the interviewer seriously.
He's deflecting.
He's answering it kind of in the face of, you know, clearly contradicting evidence.
I mean, the guy was found guilty first degree of, you know, conspiring to kill other people being involved intimately.
Yet he's saying, I'm not responsible.
They're responsible.
Blah, blah, blah.
So, and you can see here, you know, how this guy can go ahead with the obviously with the use of drugs, can easily manipulate young people that are, you know, too dumb to realize better.
And also, this guy married three times.
Yeah.
Three times and had three childs with different women.
I mean, how?
I don't know.
He was busting nuts everywhere.
Yeah.
And lying.
He married a prostitute too and had a child with her.
Man.
Stupid.
Yeah.
That's a hell.
And yeah, he married the last wife he had was the Mary Brenner.
Remember when I told you, remember this girl?
The first member of the band, gang, cult?
He married that chick, Mary.
Well, that definitely had a child with her.
So, give you guys a quick little update, right?
So Leslie Van Hooten, she might get out on parole, guys.
Let's play this clip.
To being free, Governor Gavin Newsom says he will no longer fight her parole after a state appeals court ruled she should be released.
Van Houghton has been in prison.
Only in California.
Prison for 53 years in connection with the 1969 killings of Lino and Rosemary LaBianca.
She has been recommended for parole five times since 2016, but Newsom and former Governor Jerry Brown rejected those recommendations.
The state parole board must give a final sign-off, and Van Houghton could be released to a halfway house in weeks.
That's wild, man.
So, we'll see what happens with that one.
Uh, but yeah, I think that pretty much covers it, guys.
Uh, do you have anything you want to add to this, Angie?
Well, I just want to know uh, the supporters' opinions on what do you guys believe.
Do you think it was like a cold thing, like health or skeleton thing that they just killed?
Was it was just like a killing spree or something, or it was like a drug-dealing gun run?
Fair enough.
What do you believe?
Um, we'll see.
Can you make a poll in the chat for them?
Um, I don't know how to make a poll here.
L. I know.
All right, I will make polls in the Instagram.
You guys, please follow your reacts.
All right, we'll do it.
Um, I'll do it.
Okay, read some of the chats then, Angie.
Okay, while I while I make the poll, try to use your best English.
You got this.
All right, okay.
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Uh, did they show his face on camera?
Let me know, Bitcoin Banner, if he did.
Um, wait, Angie, what was the question that you wanted me to ask the people?
Was this what theory do they believe?
It was a cold thing, or it was like a drug-dealing gone run, okay?
Health of sculpture or drug-dealing gone run.
What do they believe?
Okay, a school scooter.
Uh, two dollars.
He said, uh, H2FP, you can hide from me.
Okay, I don't know.
Uh, fake account, 50 bucks.
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Fuck that shit.
Stay natural as long as you can.
Don't do TRT unless you absolutely need it.
And a lot of times you don't.
As you get older, yeah, but no, bro.
If you're in your 20s, no need, bro.
No need at all.
So, um, just keep losing weight.
Go ahead, Angie.
Okay, uh, yeah, I think if he continues like working out six days a week, it's just definitely gonna increase his testosterone for sure.
Um, and NSA says, $2, a felon still got a gun.
Gun gun control is a scam.
Okay.
Uh, Big Mo says, Fresh and Andrew take speak classes together.
Uh, you guys, I actually took right you, if you didn't know, I actually took speed classes because I used to be a radio hoster, so L for me, I guess.
I mean, I think it's English, though.
Uh, LaMaya Johaweta says, Can you do a show on drunk on drop-keeping Frank Matthews?
Can you write that down?
And I got the poll up, by the way, if you guys want to take it.
Uh, follow slide, Silema says, Thank you for warning us on the victim mindset.
Beware, I got y'all, man.
All right, let me keep.
I'll finish the rest of these, and what you keep monitor the poll.
Hey, can you get Peter Zahan on Money Money Monday to talk about deglobalization?
Uh, yeah, I reached out to him, man.
Um, I'll reach out again.
I'll reach out again.
Uh, he responded to me, but I don't know what happened with the correspondence.
He told me to like email him or whatever.
A lot of these older guys, like, don't do Instagram.
Like, I DM'd him and then we spoke.
And then he was like, Oh, message me on this email.
And I'm like, bro.
And I messaged him on email, and it's like, I don't know.
Um, a lot of times it's like some random assistant somewhere.