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May 8, 2023 - MyronGainesX
02:22:07
Fed Explains The Bizarre Pizza Bomber Bank Heist!
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And we are alive.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to FedE.
Today we're gonna be covering the pizza bomb heist, man.
This one's a crazy one.
Probably one of the most bizarre cases I've ever covered.
Let's get into it, man.
We got a lot to talk about.
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What's up, guys?
Welcome to FedEt Man.
Uh sorry for the delay, guys.
This one took me a long time to prepare for because this case is very complex.
There's a lot of information out there.
I had to go ahead and get a bunch of content ready for y'all.
Um, some of it is gonna be from Netflix, some of it's gonna be from YouTube.
I gotta dance around the Netflix because you guys know copyright is a you know a pain.
So uh yeah, pretty much I was gathering everything.
And as you guys know, I don't really like to have lag time when I'm doing a live stream with you guys.
Um, I like to have all the information right there, and then I have all my tabs sorted and you know ready to go, and I kind of have an idea of how I'm gonna do it.
So um Angie's here.
I know you guys are probably wondering where's Angie.
She's uh she's here, she's just like uh, you know, being a woman getting dressed somewhere.
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So make sure to go ahead and check that one, guys.
All right, but yes, I will cover the triads, I will cover the Yukuza.
I will cover um the Mexican cartel, I will cover the Columbia cartels.
I'm gonna cover all the big organized crime groups, guys.
Uh, just be patient because, like I said before, if I'm gonna do a a big organized crime group, I'm gonna do it correctly.
I'm gonna probably do a series on it, just like I did with 9-11, um, and everything else like that.
So uh, so that's kind of how I how I do it, man.
I want to make sure I do it correctly.
So uh Mafia, I probably got two or three more episodes left with that, and then we'll probably move on to next organized crime group, right?
Uh okay, so let me see here.
Um, Angie, set up you ready?
Yeah, okay.
What's up?
Introduce yourself to the people.
Hi guys.
Uh it's me and Heliga or Angie, as you prefer.
Uh, we'll be doing a very particular case, and I I don't know anything about this case.
I didn't know it like that was the thing.
My Myron just told me today.
So I'll be reacting just like you guys.
Like it'll be my first time knowing about this case.
Yeah, we were gonna do a case.
What was the one that you that you were telling me about before that we were gonna do, and then I was like, you know, this one's probably better.
Well, uh, we do have a like a long list of requests, and I've been telling Myron like you guys have been requesting the Iceman and also a prolif the prolific serial killer of Canada, Robert Robert Picton, I think it is.
And yeah, I suggested those cases tomorrow, but because Myron would like to keep up with like uh trending news and like trendy cases.
Uh uh you told me about a new one.
I I I think it was which one does that you told me before the one I told you?
Uh you remember?
No, which one?
I think it was a shooting in Atlanta.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
There was a shooting in Atlanta this week, and then there was another shooting in Texas, man.
Yo, there's been 200 mass shootings already, guys, in the United States.
Shit is getting crazy out here, man.
Yeah, uh I suggested him the other case that has been trending like lately, the one from these like newly wets that got killed uh a few days ago after their wedding in North Carolina.
I don't know if you guys know anything about that, but like it's been trending non-stop this week.
So yeah, I told him about that well as well.
All right.
Uh cool.
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You ever bust any biker gangs?
Uh, I did not do um biker gang cases, but I did have um what was that?
Is that a thing like a biker gangs?
Yes, yes.
Like uh, I'll and I will do one on organized like Hell's Angels, Banditos, etc.
I didn't do a biker gang case, but I did have a drug case that linked to a biker gang, and I just kind of stayed away from it because that was a big pain in the ass.
I didn't want to go ahead and do another whole Ret Rico case with another criminal organization, but one of the guys that I was investigating was uh was a bandito.
Uh but that's a whole other situation.
But yes, I will go ahead and do organized uh biker gangs for y'all as well.
Um Curtis Cole, I love the concept.
Ask about Frank Lucas case in the future.
Also, another good case would be the Mendez brothers killing their parents, okay.
Oh, that's that's in the that's on layers.
That's on the list, okay.
Shedrick stake Straker goes, can you make a series about drug cartels?
I will.
Um, Myron, I just wanted to thank you for everything you do.
You got me out of a dark place.
I've since lost uh 30 pounds that make 300k a year buying my second rental property.
Keep it up, brother.
That's what we're talking about, man.
Good stuff, my friend.
Uh L Myron and Ryan for exposing us on Friday.
That comes from the CIA.
Uh, thank you, CIA.
I appreciate that greatly, man.
Um, and then we got here, M. Barr goes, found this in the Bible and wanted to share Proverbs 31:3.
Do not chase after women and lose your strength.
Women like that have destroyed kings.
Yeah, I mean, Fresh always quotes that on the um on the podcast that uh women have destroyed kingdom.
So I am not surprised.
Uh let's see here.
Uh let's see.
Yeah, even back then in the biblical times, man, they knew that you know women deserve less.
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Uh, and then we got here.
Bro, you skipped my super chat.
Uh the good life.
Can you find that for me, Angie?
I don't know if I skipped them.
Okay.
Uh, Mr. Speak on it goes, what are your thoughts on everything popping off in Texas currently?
I was gonna cover that case, but there's not enough information right now.
So it would have been boring.
Uh, thanks for the content, Martin and Angie.
Appreciate that.
Sooner history.
Uh, and then I think am I caught up here?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
I'm caught up.
All right, cool.
Um so today, guys, we're gonna be covering uh the uh bomber pizza bomber case.
This one is fucking crazy, man.
Uh so let's get right into it.
Uh, death of Brian Wells, okay.
Um, the death of Brian Wells took place on August 2828, 2003, after Wells a pizza delivery man robbed the PNC bank near his hometown of Erie, Pennsylvania, United States.
Upon being apprehended by police, Wells was murdered when an explosive collar locked to his neck detonated.
The plot subsequently uncovered has been described as one of the most complicated bizarre crimes in the history of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, FBI, in conjunction with the ATF and uh Pennsylvania State Police, the FBI investigation into Marjorie Deal, Armstrong and Kenneth Barnes being charged with the crime in 2007.
Now it's much more complex than that, but uh I'm gonna go ahead, guys, and we're gonna get right into uh we're gonna play a portion of this documentary.
I'm streaming on Twitch as well, guys, because I already know that YouTube might be lame and try to try to shut this down.
So, this is what we're gonna do.
I'm gonna go ahead and play a portion of it, right?
And I'm gonna pause it often to give you guys commentary.
And to be honest with you, I need to give you guys commentary to make things make sense anyway.
Uh and then uh, and then I also have another documentary here as well that we're gonna be using.
Um, but this one right here, what we're gonna go over is the actual incident that occurred where the bomb went off and him robbing the bank, etc.
All the facts that kind of led to that, and we'll kind of work our way from there.
So we're gonna go with the bombing incident, and then we're gonna work our way backwards, okay, into the actual investigation and identify all the conspirators involved.
I want you guys to pay attention because this case is very complex, it's very bizarre, it's very weird.
Um, but it is uh nonetheless fairly entertaining.
Um, and then Angie, you have anything before I get into this thing?
No, I really don't know anything about this.
I'm like trigger, I need to know.
Okay, I'm excited.
All right.
Um, so guys, do me a quick favor, like the video.
We're on Twitch as well.
So um if it does go down on YouTube, don't worry, just be patient and it's gonna come back up.
And then when you watch the replay, it's gonna come back up.
Um, but I'm gonna, like I said before, I'm gonna be playing.
You think it's gonna be taken up?
Uh it might they what they'll do is like this stream is playing blah, blah, blah.
And then it'll be lame.
Okay.
But it but it's weird because when you play it back on YouTube, it'll play.
Um, but yeah, so I I pretty much have it ready to go from where I want y'all to see.
Um, this is uh state trooper that was involved in this investigation from the beginning and one of the responding officers back on um August 28th, uh 2003.
So um, and this is the pizza bomber timeline right here, okay, guys.
The pizza bomber case took more than seven years to investigate and prosecute with FBI special agent Jerry Clark as the lead investigator.
Here's a synopsis of some of the events in the probe based on court records and other sources, and it's compiled by N uh Palat Palatella for the Erie Times News.
And we're gonna go over this right here.
August 28, 2003.
Brian Wells is killed when a bomb locked to his neck explodes after he robs the PNC bank and summit town center, a shopping plaza just south at Virie, Pennsylvania.
Wells tells state police before the collarbon goes off that four black men forced him to wear the device and rob the bank.
Investigators later determined Wells was lying.
The night of August 28, 2003, Federal Agents search Wells' house on Loveland Avenue in Milk Creek Township.
They find nothing to indicate the collar bomb was built there.
All right.
So let's go ahead and get into it, my friends.
PNC Bank, which is located directly across here.
Uh had been robbed by an individual apparently wearing a collar bomb.
And as you guys can see here, he walks into the bank, right?
And he's chilling.
He's he's walking in, he's kind of strolling in.
He has This big ass bulge, right?
On his shirt, okay, and it says guess on it's a guest shirt.
And he's uh if you guys are wondering what that is right there, it's a lollipop.
He actually walked into the bank and took a lollipop from the from this little thing right here.
And he had a cane, but you guys are gonna see what that cane actually was here in a second.
Brian Wells walked into BNC bank with the cane and the collar around his neck.
There's a cane right there.
What does that look like, guys?
Learned that the uh cane, it was actually a gun.
Yes, it was, my friends.
It was a shotgun that was uh given to him by the masterminds here.
only hands if they tell her a note Okay.
So this is one of the notes here goes bomb hostage.
You are to go to the PNC Bank at Summit Town Center on Peach Street, quietly give the following demand notes to a receptionist or bank manager.
Do not cause alarm, get required money, and deliver it to a specified location by following notes that you will collect as uh I can't see what this says here, but race going against time.
Okay.
Each note leads to the next note and key until finished.
You will collect several keys and a combination to remove bomb.
After police won't charge you because you were a hostage.
Most important explanation point do not radio phone or contact anyone, alerting the authorities, your company or anyone else will bring you death.
If we spot police vehicles or aircraft, you will be killed.
This powerful booby trap bomb can be removed only by following our instructions using time attempting to escape, it will fail, and blah, blah, blah.
So you can see here that these guys were on some demon time.
This is some shit out of the movie.
Saw right here, man.
The notes were were nine pages.
They were they were quite rambling in places.
There were a couple of them that were instructions for Brian.
There were one that he was to give to the to the bank manager.
One sphere to the police.
And he had a bunch of notes, guys.
A bunch of them.
And we'll go through uh some of them in a little bit more detail here in a little bit, but uh, let's keep going.
And you guys are probably wondering, why is it in such nice handwriting?
Uh, what they did was they typed it and then they traced over it.
Why did they do that?
Well, that's actually pretty smart that they did that because it would make it um almost impossible to detect handwriting.
So if someone comes in and trying to get a handwriting exemplar, blah blah blah, they won't be able to trace the handwriting because the person basically typed it up on a typewriter, then put it down, then they traced over the typewriter, so the font is basically whatever the typewriter is.
Pretty smart.
Very type consuming, but pretty smart.
Bank notes.
I have a gun.
Give me all your money.
I mean, and they they're not they're not usually, you know, dissertations that are that are miles long.
Yeah, my man wrote a freaking uh uh thesis paper here.
So use no ink bombs, markings, tracking, locating, device, or any other security measures.
We will screen for these, and if found will make us detonate the bomb.
Defiance guarantees death and revenge.
We are using scanners and other detection methods to verify the money.
Is clear channels are monitored for police calls.
We will detonate if the authorities are involved.
Myself, uh wife and partner are following sentries to ensure compliance after receiving money.
We will provide bomb hostage with the location of the final key and combination to disarm and remove bomb.
Wait one hour after bomb hostage returns to contact police, or we will want bomb or two retaliate.
So obviously these guys were out here writing a thesis of terror for this guy.
*music*
And yes, guys, he had only 55 minutes to complete this task.
And um, just so you guys know, very interesting.
The police actually went and tried to complete, they actually like retraced the steps and tried to complete what he was tasked to do, and they could not do it.
So this was pretty much a death sentence for this guy, uh Brian Wells.
Do not think you can outsmart us, guys.
That is a clue to the people that were behind this crime.
the two main masterminds that were behind this crime.
*music*
We are following you.
He had asked for 250,000 in the end, all he got was what was in the drawers, somewhere around $8,000.
I think it was about um 8,700 to be exact, guys, because um at the time the manager that was there, uh there was only one manager, and you needed two managers to open up the vault, so they couldn't get the money out of the vault.
So they just gave him whatever they could with the drawers and got him out of there.
And then um a witness that was there, obviously he's like, What the fuck?
This guy's here with a cane, son's off.
He, you know, he obviously he follows him out, he uh calls the police, and you know, it's 2003, so there were Nokia cell phones back then, right?
Uh, he calls the police, and what he does is he gives a description of the vehicle, and the police are able to arrive on scene very quickly, and what happens next.
Okay, next instruction.
Get out of the car and go to the small sign uh writ red in the flower bed by the sign, there is a rock with a note taped to the bottom.
It has your next instructions read, I think he's when it's exited the bank, stopped at McDonald's and picked up a uh apparently a note in the flower bed he had a with it.
Yo, they even drew the fucking thing for him.
Drive through 24 hours.
Okay.
That's dedication.
Yeah, that's dedication.
These guys were dedicated, and y'all are gonna see here in a little bit, uh, with how they made the bomb, etc., that these guys were dedicated.
His vehicle back on the road, proceeded to head south on Route 19, which is Page Street, when our units arrived, at which time our unit spotted his vehicle and pulled him over in the eyeglass board parking lot.
Okay, so bam.
So y'all can see here's the bank.
Literally within minutes of each other, guys.
If y'all look at it from the map here, the bank is here, he comes out, goes over to McDonald's, right?
Gets the note, then he comes out this way, and this is where you guys are gonna see the police intercept him.
And Erie, Pennsylvania, just so you guys know, give you guys a quick little uh thing here.
Uh where is it?
Hold on.
Erie, Pennsylvania, guys, is a very small town.
All right, and you are you're basically smack dab in the middle of two states.
You're about 20 minutes from two different states.
You can either go to the east and hit New York or to the west and hit Ohio.
Okay, and let me go ahead and boom.
Just so you guys have a full view here of where it's at.
Okay.
It's West Pennsylvania, right there on on the on the uh Lake Erie.
Well, which's why it's called Erie, but this was a very eerie case.
Give myself the bad joke, King.
All right.
But y'all get the idea here, right?
Back to the documentary.
I was assigned to the patrol unit here in Erie, and on that particular day I was riding my motorcycle.
Yeah, I was made aware of a situation going on over on Peach Street.
Police captured Brian Wells, age 46, a pizza delivery man, just minutes after he left the bank.
We got him out of car and handcuff.
Not married, no kids.
and this is gonna that's gonna play a significant role here guys when we figure out what brian wells did on his free time if you all know what i'm saying And Brian had said something about a bomb.
So, what you guys seeing here being done pretty much is like a felony stop.
They get him, you know, in a position of disadvantage, right?
And uh they cuff him up, right?
Because all they know is that hey, someone robbed the bank, he may or may not be armed, he has Some kind of weird cane.
Uh what something's on his neck.
It's and this is the car he's driving.
So obviously they arrive at scene and they assume the worst, and they immediately put him in a position of disadvantage and they cuff him up, right?
Then it's about to get real.
It was Trooper Zamansky who went up and actually using a small pair of scissors, cut the size of the shirt because whatever he had was underneath a t-shirt.
And when Trooper Zamansky lifted the shirt, he looked at it, he goes, Yeah, that looks like he's like, nah, I'm good.
Ah, man, get me out of here.
You know, this is not gonna be one of those.
Hello, my boy!
I'm good.
Because guys, keep in mind, all right.
Again, some of y'all are young, so you guys don't know.
In 2003, we were still in a very, you know, war on terror.
You know, you know, 9-11 was fresh in our minds.
We had just invaded Iraq, by the way, guys.
It was we invaded Iraq in March of 2003.
This is August, so literally five months later.
So anything that has to do with bombs or terrorism or any of that stuff, we were extremely sensitive to that in the United States back in 2003.
I I can't, you you would have to live through it to understand the level of fear um that people had when it came to that T-word when it came to bombs, when it came to planes, and when it came to Islam, it was a different time, my friends.
That's when they sat him down to isolate him.
They were like, fuck this.
Y'all don't pay me enough, man.
I'm making 50k with the state police.
I'm straight.
I'm good, I'm out of here.
Oh man, this that ain't enough money, man.
Bombka.
I'm gonna need a radio lockers.
These guys are looking right at us.
At that time when I pulled up with a general consensus, is it was probably a fake bomb, but we never know, so we have to act as it's a real bomb.
When I arrived, uh, he was already on his knees cuffed, and he was talking calmly.
So we were going backward forth with him being a willing participant or a hostage.
He's like, yo, take these handcuffs off, man.
This shit hurts.
Um, and real quick, uh, I'll hit some of these chats, guys.
Because as you guys know, I'm playing Netflix stuff right now, so I gotta be very careful that the stream doesn't get turned off.
So I apologize that I'm um pausing it frequently, but you guys understand.
You know what I mean.
Uh here, can I get the other one?
The yellow can one.
Got to Angie helping out.
Okay, uh, what are your thoughts on everything popping off?
Nope, read that one.
Uh, thanks for the content, Angie and Marin, Sooner History.
Appreciate that.
Uh, we got here.
Sparky note.
Uh started watching uh your shows one year ago.
Quit drinking, lost my beer gut, and I'm shredded now, six foot two hundred, eighty five pounds.
Quit chasing 304s and invest in crypto and making my bag.
Good stuff, my friend.
Make that money, don't be a loser.
Okay.
Uh hey, Myron, thank you so much for giving Ryan Dawson your platform to expose them boys, LMAL.
When you having him on again.
Um, we're gonna do for some of you guys that were wondering.
We um we covered Epstein, then we also covered 9-11.
We went into the them boys portion, right?
The dancing boys, if y'all know what I'm saying.
Uh, but next we're gonna cover um the Tennessee ring of them boys, and then also the um there was uh uh art students as well.
So we're gonna cover that.
I'm thinking we might do it this Wednesday or possibly maybe even on the off days like a Thursday or or or Friday.
But we're definitely gonna have him back on to finish the 9-11 thing.
Uh, because yeah, that that it's a monster.
But I hope I'm glad that you guys enjoyed it, man.
Ryan Dawson is really smart.
Uh it's a sad, it's sad that he was deplatformed and canceled everywhere, but hey man, we're gonna give him a voice.
Hell, we might even post Numek on our channel for y'all, man.
Quick announce it.
Yeah, me and him are working that out right now.
Uh, but we might post that on the channel for y'all.
I'm gonna talk to the YouTube people, make sure it's cool, but it is very historically accurate, it's not slanderous or any of that other stuff.
Everything that he says in that documentary is 1000 percent fact.
He has declassified documents to prove it.
I mean, them boys definitely stole the nuclear bomb from the United States.
It's a fact, it's not even in dispute anymore.
Uh Pinochet's helicopter tours.
Have you looked into the LA Brim case?
I have not.
Uh, Mr. Shandon, mind me up, bro.
Can you do the case of James Bulger?
I already did it.
I already did it, goddamn it.
That's it.
I already did Whitey Bolger.
Yeah, I already did Whitey Bulger.
That was one of my favorite ones too.
Uh, go back and look at the um go back and look at the uh Thursday videos, it's in there.
I definitely did James Bolger, man.
I'm Uh dude, I went to college in Boston, man.
You can't you can't say boss without saying James Bulger.
Me and my colleagues usually talk about concepts similar to what you discussed, but unfortunately, we can't be open because we work healthcare.
Yeah, bro, it is what it is, man.
You guys are cucked over there.
All right, let's get back to the documentary and then I'll read the rest of the chats after.
But like I said before, actually, you know what?
Will you guys cover the Parkland shooting?
Parkland shooting.
Oh, that was here in Florida, if I'm not mistaken.
Uh, yeah, I could cover that one.
I I went uh I won uh if you're in this like the shooting that was in uh I think it was in Orlando from this guy that that went into the GCS actually made the case.
Um the interrogation room, and he was trying to fake as if he was um oh crazy, yeah.
Yeah, I think the Parkland shooter was one of the people in there.
If I'm not mistaken, if it's the 18-year-old high school kid, I think it was from 2018.
Yeah, that's him.
That's him.
That's the Buckland shooting.
I think so.
That's what it's called.
Yeah, if I'm not mistaken.
Okay, that's the one I wanted to.
He just got convicted too recently.
Like it took them forever to go to trial.
Yo, Florida is slow as hell when it goes to comes to going on trial.
Like they're about to go to trial on Melly's case like next month.
Bro, Melly's been in jail since like 2018.
Like, what the hell is going on?
Bro, the Florida justice system and the Texas Florida justice system are so behind, man.
Yes, yeah, LL justice systems, man.
But hey, it is what it is.
All right, let's keep going.
I'm looking through the binoculars and he's talking.
He's nervous, but he's not talking agitated.
He's not agitated at all.
And he was really concerned about getting a collar off his neck.
As soon as we believe that we had a bomb, and the call went to your bomb squad.
It's just unfortunate that they were probably over 10 miles away.
And another unfortunate thing is that in the process of protecting the public by closing down Peach Street, we've now created a traffic problem that the bomb squad, they now have to contend with this traffic.
Okay, so you guys are probably wondering, like, yo, why did the police do anything right then and there, etc.?
So whenever you have a bomb situation like that, guys, there's only a small amount of officers in the state a lot of the times that can even deal with bombs, right?
And it's typically gonna be a bomb squad.
Every major city typically has one, and if a major city doesn't have one, there's the state police will always have a squad.
But since they're pretty much a specialized unit, right?
It's a bunch of different troopers that you know might be investigators, might be road guys, whatever it may be.
They all have to they get the call, okay, they gotta drop what they're doing, and then they gotta go ahead and respond.
That takes time, guys.
It's just like a SWAT team.
And it's even more refined because there's less of them that are qualified.
Um, you can also ask the feds for help, right?
Maybe the ATF might have a bomb squad, but a lot of the times they don't, right?
Especially in rural areas like this.
The ATF might have a bomb squad in a big city, but in a uh place like Erie, Pennsylvania, more than likely that's gonna be a big nope.
So it's gonna take them time to respond.
And obviously, each minute of precious time is uh, you know, Brian Wells is losing, and he only has 55 minutes, so you guys are gonna see what ends up happening here.
But yeah, man, I mean the police there are not qualified to deal with a bomb and and disarm it uh, you know, much less disarm it.
So that's why they couldn't do anything, and that's why it took them so long to get there because bomb squads are typically trained officers that specialize with bombs, disarming them, etc.
They know what to look for, what to not look for, how to disarm it, etc.
And it still takes some time, and they gotta set up.
They gotta wear the that the bomb suit, um, etc.
So that they can go in there.
It's it's a very it's a very taxing and cumbersome process, unfortunately, guys.
Oh my god.
Did you call my boss?
Yeah, I guess I guess he had to he's like, damn, I'm gonna be late on this next delivery.
We realized what pizza shop that he worked at, and I sent two guys down there to conduct interviews.
Mamma mia!
Pizza shop is where he worked at, guys.
And that pizza shop is located right here.
But this guy was delivering pixels to the bank or what?
Right here, Mama Mia's pizza shop.
What was that?
He was delivering pieces to the bank or what?
Like, no, no, no, not to the bank.
You'll see where he was delivering it.
You'll see here in a second.
But yeah, right.
This is where uh Mama Mia's pizza is nowadays, guys.
1533 W 38th Street.
Sub Salah's Calzones, Stromboli's.
Yeah, W the sponsor that Myron is giving them.
Yeah, yeah.
Shout out to them, man.
Yeah, yeah, owe me a check for uh promoting y'all.
Go eat fix uh lunch specials at Pennsylvania.
Yeah, go ahead.
Legendary place.
Workers at Mama Mia's Pizzeria saw Wells leave to deliver two sausage and pepperoni pies to a remote location.
And okay, now we're getting somewhere.
He had to deliver the pizzas to an unoccupied radio tower.
Hmm.
Sus unoccupied radio tower.
He was saying it was black people.
Uh dropped him up.
Okay, bro.
I actually got a laugh that he said, yo, it was black people that put this on me.
Come on, man.
We we know it wasn't some black people that put that on you, bro.
First of all, black people ain't gonna make a bomb like that.
That's that sophisticated.
Number two, they're not gonna give you a cane gun.
Okay.
It's just it come on.
The police knew right away, yo, this dude's captain.
But that's funny that he said that black people put this on me.
Of course, you can call around his neck.
Oh yeah, I'll start in the timer.
He never said who it was.
He couldn't describe the black individuals that he claimed put the bomb around his neck.
Jamal, a Karim.
Oh my god.
You know in your heart that there's probably another black person involved in it, but that's what they're gonna say.
Yeah, let's keep it a thousand.
Black people ain't fucking giving you some bomb telling you to rob a bank with some detailed ass notes.
Like, no, that's not happening.
It was funny, like, crazy that you just left them there.
At that time, what was that you said?
It's it's crazy that you they just left them there just in case the bomb explodes, he's just like there, and everybody's like, Yeah, they because the police don't know what to do.
They're like, uh, because they're confused.
Like, think about it.
Some dude robbed the bank and he has a bomb on him, and he's saying that he was put the bomb was put on him.
Guys, mind you, this was in 2003.
This is before the movie Saw came out.
Oh my god.
So they have no clue what the hell is going on right now.
Like, wait, you told me that you robbed a bank, but you got a bomb on your neck, and you're telling me some black people put it on.
Like, what the so for them it was pure bizarre confusion.
Like that there would like there was no idea what the hell was going on.
The movie saw, I went and checked it out.
It came out um October 29th, 2004.
So this is well before that movie came out.
Um, I just I just don't understand.
Like that time wouldn't be someone like specialized to try to disarm those kind of things.
But they were on the scene, they were responding.
They were they were driving together.
They're on the way, yeah.
But remember, like, there's not many of them in a rural area like that, and um, it's gonna take time.
And they blocked off the road because they had to segregate it, so it made it even harder for them to get there.
Okay, beat his whole demeanor changed.
Maybe if you get the bees, I don't know if I'm gonna and I think it's at that time that he realized that it is a real bomb.
I'm not lying.
I don't think he realized until it started to be.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Pure confusion.
So the at this point, guys, the police are trying to clear the area because they don't know how powerful this bomb is.
So they're telling everyone to get the hell out the area.
Where are you going for the next night?
I don't know why.
Check, check.
He was getting excited, and then uh kept hearing it.
It you know, it was going beep, beep.
All right, guys, it's about to get graphic here in a little bit.
So if you're a discretion is advised, which y'all are about to see.
I was zoomed in right on his face.
Oh no, I'm not, I'm not.
*BOOM*
Oh my god.
God damn, holy yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Rest in peace, man.
That was yeah, that was crazy.
Crazy, crazy.
They just literally let him die.
What the heck?
His eyes just got real wide.
And then he went to the back of his head.
Oh, and that was the end of them.
Can you go back and repeat it?
No, you sicko.
Do that on your own time, Angie.
I just gotta want to know where he exploded.
It was uh, so that you're gonna see her in a little bit.
Okay.
I was looking in that direction.
The man was sitting there as he was since about three o'clock when all of a sudden a loud explosion and he flipped onto his back, and the state police troopers scrambled.
They're still holding guns.
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It just blew up, yeah.
Yeah, seriously, bro.
Y'all just saw an explosion.
On him as you can see.
They're still not exactly sure his condition.
My name's Tom Stankovich in August 20.
At insult to injury, the bomb squad showed up like maybe three to five minutes after the bomb went off.
Holy L. But you guys are gonna see that honestly, even if they had arrived on time, they probably wouldn't have been able to disarm the bomb.
And you guys are gonna see here that in a second.
28th, 2003.
I was the bomb squad commander for the City of Very police.
Within about four blocks of our arrival at the scene, we received information with radio that a bomb had exploded on this suspect.
He had still been breathing up until a couple of you know, really until a moment.
Okay, you guys see this right here?
This is a replica of the bomb that the crooks made, which um you guys are gonna see pretty pretty sophisticated, fairly sophisticated.
Before we had arrived, we put on bomb suits, took up the necessary equipment that we might need.
And again, guys, that all takes time.
So even if they arrived on time, they probably wouldn't have been able to get that bomb off of him.
And you guys are gonna see that the bomb makers put some booby traps in there as well.
But yeah, putting on that bomb suit takes time, man.
Yeah, you're gonna see here in a second.
Well, I mean, no brainer.
The suspect still had part of the device secured to his neck.
Oh my God.
We methodically went through to make sure there were no more explosive devices on him, as well as searching his vehicle for any potential further explosive devices.
So anytime the bomb squad responds, guys, not only do they have to clear the area where the bomb went off, they have to clear the area all around it to make sure there's not any what you call secondaries, which means another explosive device.
Um, so that's first and foremost.
Obviously, they get in, they see that he's deceased.
Okay, cool.
Like, not cool, but like, okay, he's he's deceased.
We can't do anything.
This is now an active crime scene.
Now we gotta make sure that there's not gonna be another bomb here that's gonna go off that's gonna hurt us or destroy evidence.
So that's the the um second priority after they figure out if the person is alive or not.
Does this was like a and that's a photo of the vehicle right there at the scene.
What was that?
Go ahead.
Uh was this like a sort of type of terrorist?
Uh, you'll see here in a bit.
Angie doesn't know this case at all, guys.
So she's kind of in the same boat as y'all that might not know.
It just doesn't want to tell me.
Bro, does someone say rest in pizza?
Yo, y'all are messed up, bro.
God damn, man.
Holy!
Y'all are on some demon time in here, man.
What the fuck, bro?
All right, so this is what was found in the car.
Y'all can see the cane gun is here.
Was it actually a gun?
Yeah, it was.
It was it was functioning.
Wow.
More notes are found in this car.
Brian Wells was supposed to go.
Okay.
So let's go ahead and take a look, guys, at some of the notes here, okay.
Um so let me enlarge this for y'all.
Okay.
My bad.
Okay.
So here's one of the notes, right?
Rules.
You must follow a course of instructions to find keys and uh combination codes to disarm the bomb.
Do not insert keys into keyholes until instructed.
Some keyholes are booby-trapped to prevent tampering.
Drive 60 miles per hour throughout the course.
Use only two or three minutes at each stop.
A sentry will be watching at each stop to ensure you are not being followed.
Bomb has trip wires.
Forcing or tampering will detonate all weapons, papers, containers, tapes, etc.
Must be returned to us.
Each item you find after dropping money has a key and/or a combination word you'll need to decipher the combination.
This will disarm some trip wires before you unlock.
This procedure is to make sure you leave no materials behind.
Bro, holy.
Imagine like having to uh to go through that.
What what does booby trap mean?
So what so booby trap means uh basically what they did, guys was they put what you call like kind of false wires in there.
So there was a bunch of yellow wires and a collar, right?
And here's a collar right here, and I'll show it to y'all real fast.
This was the collar, okay?
As y'all can see there's a bunch of wiring here.
Okay.
Oh, it's not.
Oh, thank you, Angie, for letting me know.
Um, this is the collar right here, guys.
And they actually had to saw Brian's head off to get the collar uh off and keep the collar intact.
Is that the actual thing?
Like the real thing.
This is the actual one.
Yeah, you can see the blood on it.
This is the actual uh evidence, right?
Um, so yeah, I know this is some saw type shit, man.
These guys were on demon time.
So anyway, you can see here that these wires were in the in the way here.
These wires really had nothing to do with the bomb, they were just there for display and also kind of like trip wires.
So if uh the bomb squad tried to come in and disarm the bomb, they would be wasting time dealing with those wires.
So these guys were on some on some real demon time trying to get him killed, to be honest with y'all.
And he blew up on these hole right there, like yeah.
So what they ended up doing, so the this was attached to his neck, he never got it off.
So what ended up happening is after he was killed, the police to preserve this this collar neck, right?
Because it's their best piece of evidence, right?
They had to saw his head off.
They actually saw his head off.
Yeah, they saw his head off.
Yep.
Yep, yep, yep, to preserve the evidence.
And his family, and his family was very mad about that for obvious reasons.
So here's some more of the notes, right?
This is McDonald's number one.
Leave McDonald's from the rear and drive behind and around the side of up eyeglass world.
Okay, stop at Pete Street.
Import it.
You must get out and tie the orange tape taped on bomb east around the fire hydrant at Pete Street to signal that you have money and left the bank.
Two, go south to Peace Street, take 90 west for two miles, and guys, memorize Pete Street.
That's gonna be very important later on.
And interchange 178, take 79 north for two and a quarter miles at exit 180, pull to the side of the road ramp, and stop next to the yellow traffic light warning sign, right?
And they draw it for him.
Go directly across the grass to the right and into the woods.
The container with the orange tape has your next instructions.
Place all notes, containers, and tapes in the money bag and proceed.
Tell me you wouldn't be fucking terrified, bro.
And this instructions.
If you got these instructions and you had only 55 minutes to do this, and not and they put a map in here.
Guys, keep in mind, okay?
This is 2003.
There's no such thing as GPS, okay?
The best that you could do back then in 2003 was you had to go and print some fucking map quest directions and shit like that to get to where you were gonna go.
There was no such thing as GPS.
Maybe you had a Tom Tom if you were lucky.
And y'all don't even probably know what a Tom Tom is.
A Tom Tom used to be this thing used to put in your car, and it would and you'd like put in an address and it would take you somewhere.
That's if you were lucky, you had a Tom Tommy.
This guy, I doubt had a Tom Tom.
Those things were expensive back then.
So uh, so yeah, you guys could see here that they put all these instructions, right?
Um, giving them all uh and the map.
So yeah, dude.
This This is literally terrifying.
And these instructions were for who?
Uh for the pizza guy.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um that he had to follow.
Right.
To get the bomb disarmed to get the bomb disarmed.
Uh, let's see here.
Yeah, y'all can see.
Look at all these destructive, like these super detailed instructions.
Uh, okay.
Let's get back to it.
Go on a scavenger hunt.
And he was supposed to go from point A to point B to point C to point D in order to get further instructions to eventually lead him to a location where the keys would be given him to release this bomb.
And that's what I just read to you guys.
Leaving McDonald's from the rear.
Go south on Peach Street.
He was following.
That's the sign that he was supposed to go to.
Instructions from the McDonald's to this site.
Contacted the and that's where he got.
He never made it here, guys, because obviously he got caught, right?
So this was the next stop that he was supposed to take.
We're gonna go over the stops that he was supposed to uh retrace it.
We'll retrace the steps here in a little bit.
Bomb squad.
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We should have a thousand at least.
Why?
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We're going all the way in right now, man.
We are literally going raw.
Okay.
Pause.
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And like the video, goddamn it.
Because we're in this thing, no condom.
They came in, swept the area.
The clue was sitting in the uh in a coffee can, maybe five to ten yards off the barn.
Just to the right of the sign.
It's not too far from the sun.
All right, so this is the um the note found in the coffee jar now.
And let me see if I could pull it up for y'all so we can go through it real fast.
Uh this was number one.
That's the bank one.
I'm gonna write my answers down for the end of the video because where did I put it?
God damn it.
Is it not here?
Thank you.
Trying to find it for you guys.
Hold on.
It might be here, might be not.
No, this is dealing with the police.
Our enforcement.
Yo, they got an enforcement policy.
These guys were really on some demon time here.
That's the bank manager, receptionist, detailed instructions.
Step one, nope.
We need step two.
How many notes did they give him?
They gave him a lot, man.
Most people nowadays would have been terrified just off how many notes it was.
Uh, from the drop off.
Okay, backtrack to 79 south, two miles uh on the side of the highway, two at a 10 mile before before I-78, just before the overhead power lines.
Park at the McKen Township sign, walk off the right.
Okay, it's cut off, guys, so I can't read all of it.
Uh, into the woods and follow orange tapes to instructions inside.
Point number one, which was Interchange Road.
He was to go to his next drop-off point, which was on 79 South, pretty close to the McCain Township exit.
Where we're at right now is the second place for the scavenger hunt that he was directed to come to.
What did we found here?
Is we were looking for other items.
All right, guys, uh pay attention because something here is gonna be very interesting that comes up, okay?
Uh, we found the orange tape sign with uh Vietnam on it.
As we were looking in through here, I noticed wait way back on the other side of that field, a minivan coming this way and started to come towards us.
A minivan.
But it looked like he was coming to this point, also, and we kind of surprised him.
And uh when he saw us, he stopped for a while.
Hmm.
Hesitated, backed up and took off.
And he was so far away, we couldn't drive up to here.
He basically got away.
It was like a uh blue type, dirty blue type van.
Keep that in mind, guys.
So at the next stop that he was supposed to go to, who was looking?
A blue minivan.
I figured whoever as seen by the police when they were there trying to reach uh find the steps.
Was in that band.
Leave the notes at both a drop up points.
Actually, that band always bothered me.
All right, knew it.
Uh, so we already got hit with the stream suspended uh on YouTube.
So it's fine.
It's fine, don't worry.
We'll be back in a second.
So what I'll do is I'll just read the chats.
Yeah, it's fine.
I prepared for this.
I already knew it was coming.
I already knew it was coming, so it's fine.
That's what they that's what they do.
Um, but we'll be right back, guys.
So don't worry about it.
If you guys are watching on Twitch, awesome.
If you guys watch it on YouTube, don't worry about it.
Give it probably two minutes.
I'll say one or two minutes and they'll and they'll give it back, which is no problem.
So, anyway, so let's go ahead and hit some of these chats in the meantime, because I always I'm prepared for this one.
Uh, can you drop the Twitch link?
Everyone is asking.
Oh, the Twitch link?
Yeah, actually, I can do that.
So give me one second.
Uh it's uh let's see here.
I'll drop it for you guys here in a second.
Uh it's the Fresh and Fit Twitch, guys.
Don't worry.
I'm not I'm not progressing forward uh yet.
So don't worry, guys.
Okay, cool.
I'll put it up.
That's the beauty of a live stream, you guys.
Yeah, we can't.
Don't worry, guys.
We got we got y'all, man.
I knew this was coming.
I but you know what?
It's good because we at least completed what I wanted to show y'all.
So yes, you guys, this is why this fire three 30 minutes or less movie.
Yeah, the comedy movie.
Yeah, yeah.
It's it's suspended, but they're gonna they're gonna obviously um it's gonna come back up, so don't worry about it.
In the meantime, I will go ahead and uh read some of these chats real fast.
Um this is why we need to go to Rumble to Rumble.
Yeah, I know.
Uh freaking uh it gets kind of lame with that, but you know, it is what it is.
I I knew it was coming, but the important thing is is that we um we got the main stuff out the way, which is like the bombing incident, the notes.
So they kind of knew what happened with that.
Now we're gonna kind of go into the conspiracy and work our way backwards in the actual investigation.
See, we're back on YouTube.
I already called it.
See, told y'all.
Okay, and don't worry, guys, when you watch this back on the replay, they're actually gonna show that part of the stream on YouTube.
So we're good, bro.
Don't worry about it.
So, just a little recap for all my YouTube people that are here.
Uh I knew that was gonna happen.
I knew that they're gonna suspend the stream while we were doing it because it's Netflix, it is what it is.
But the most important thing is we got through what I wanted to show y'all on Netflix for the majority, which was the um the incident actually take taking place, which we were able to get through.
So that is done.
Uh okay.
So, what we're gonna do now, guys, is we're gonna go ahead and continue.
You were gonna read the super chats.
That's fine.
I'll I'll I'll do it after.
Later.
Okay.
Yeah, in case we get taken down again.
Uh, see, that's why y'all need to like the goddamn video because uh I told y'all, man, we're risking a lot here.
Okay, so we're gonna go ahead and back to the timeline here.
Okay.
Um, so later on, guys, okay, on August 31st, Robert Pennetti, Wells friend of co-worker, dies from what is ruled as an accidental drug overdose.
Okay.
And this is him right here.
Okay.
This is him right here, Pennetty.
Okay.
Okay, could it be a face?
Yep.
And we're gonna describe who these other people are in this conspiracy later on.
Okay.
So let's go back to the timeline.
So three days later, guys.
So Brian Wells gets killed, which we just showed y'all on the Netflix documentary.
And then his buddy, Robert Pennetti, is killed three days later.
Then on September 8, 2003, investigators pursue the lead about the black men by searching the eerie apartment of a black man whose girlfriend said she knew Wells.
The man is never charged.
Also, that black guy um had some experience in the military guys with explosives.
That's another reason why the FBI went ahead and interviewed him as well.
Sus.
Yeah, and then also, just to let y'all know, you guys are probably wondering what ended up happening with this case, or like what who, because obviously the state police responded, ATF responded, FBI responded, etc.
So what ended up happening, guys?
Whenever you have a case like this that hits multiple jurisdictions, and you have multiple agencies involved, um, and in this case, you got a bank robbery, you got explosives, you got um uh, you know, obviously state violations uh going down, right?
So the FBI is in charge of doing bank robberies.
That is their one of their legacy crimes that they investigate, right?
Then the ATF, right?
They're called the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Farms, and Explosives, right?
So they also handle explosives.
But the FBI handles explosives if it has to do with terrorism.
ATF handles uh terror uh explosives if it doesn't necessarily deal with terrorism.
Most of the time it does deal with terrorism, so the FBI ends up doing it anyway, but you guys get the idea.
And then the state police were the main responding agency, and the state also has jurisdiction in doing robberies and crimes like that, right?
So in this case, right, especially when you got like a small town like Erie, a lot of these guys know each other, right?
The FBI agents are friends with the state police, ATF guys.
There's probably like two or three FBI agents that work in Erie.
There's probably like one or two ATF guys that work in Erie, right?
And then you got the state police there.
When you're in like these rural towns or whatever, all the law enforcement know each other's and knows each other, so there's none of this like weird, stupid, oh, it's my case, blah, blah, blah.
That doesn't happen because at the end of the day, everyone is short staffed for manpower, everyone works together.
So it ended up working out where the FBI took the lead in the investigation because at the end of the day, it was a bank robbery.
There were explosives involved, and obviously, let's keep it a thousand.
It's 2003, it's post-terrorism era, it's uh it's the terrorism era, right?
Everyone is hoping it's not one of them boys, if you know what I'm saying.
Hello, my boy!
So they're they're obviously going crazy with the with the uh post-9-11 uh hysteria.
So FBI obviously ends up taking a case.
ATF is the co-case um agency, I guess you would say, right?
And they investigate it together, but it ends up being a federal case in uh in the beginning, right?
So they went ahead and uh uh pursue that lead, right?
Then William A. Rothstein, uh Marjorie D. Armstrong's former fiance dumps 1,040 pounds of debris at Lakeview Landfill.
Now you guys are probably wondering who the hell is William Rothstein.
I'm wondering what's debris debris.
It's like uh stuff, like a bunch of crap.
So here is Rothstein right here, guys.
Okay.
So quick little background on Rothstein, okay.
Uh Jewish family comes from Erie, Pennsylvania.
His family is very wealthy.
They had a cola company back in the day, and Rothstein, right, got picked on a lot because you know, he's one of one of them boys, and um uh his family had quite a bit of money.
Uh Armstrong, right, also comes from money as well.
Her father was very successful entrepreneur, I think with real estate, et cetera.
And he had quite a bit of money as well.
He has saved up a small fortune.
And you guys are gonna see here that a big part of the motive of this crime is Marjorie, this crazy ass woman, right?
And she was very smart too, by the way.
Her and Rothstein both have high IQ, okay.
And uh, she has I think a bachelor's degree and a master's degree, and then him, he had like tried to become a pilot, but he kind of didn't.
He was like a uh habitual failure, Rothstein.
He he was really big into pursuing things, very high IQ, very smart, but his problem is that he always thought he was smarter than other people and never finished what he wanted to finish, and he ended up being uh a failure, to be honest with y'all in life.
Okay, one of those guys that has IQ that thinks he's better than everybody else, but never ends up finishing anything through.
And then Armstrong, also very intelligent, but has a bunch of mental disorders, Bipolar, narcissistic, um violent.
She had two husbands, right?
That uh died of weird circumstances.
One, she killed because of self-defense, and she shot him six times while he was asleep.
Oh my god.
Yep, and she claimed that it was self-defense.
She ended up getting off too, by the way.
Failed justice system.
All right.
Back in the 80s, and then another husband died from allegedly um falling and hitting his head on the table, if you know what I'm saying.
So she has two dead, one dead boyfriend, one dead ex-husband, and then Rothstein, right?
Who she had been seeing, um, they were kind of having a falling out.
Hence why Rothstein calls the police, okay, and says that he has um a body, right, in a freezer, which we're gonna, I could go ahead and play the Netflix clip on that as well for y'all.
Hopefully, we don't get canceled.
Um, so and this is right here on September 20th, 2003.
So he calls it uh, he calls 911 to report that the body of James Roden, Deal Armstrong's boyfriend, is stuffed in a freezer in Rothstein's uh garage.
He blames Deal Harmstrong, and just so you guys know, Roden is where is he?
This guy right here, okay.
Um Rodan is is her boyfriend at the time.
So that's three dudes that are dead because of this woman.
I let it leave, yeah.
So just to get this straight.
So this woman right here.
Okay, this woman right here, she has a dead husband, okay, that allegedly hit his head and died, mysterious purposes, right?
That's one dead.
Sauce.
Second, she shoots and kills her boyfriend, shooting him six times while he's asleep on the couch, self-defense.
Super sauce.
And then the third is this guy, Rodin, right, who um Rothstein says was killed, James Roden was killed by Armstrong uh as well.
And he claims that he she shot him with a shotgun in the back of the head because he was threatening her, and then another situation is he knew too much information.
You guys are gonna see here when we talk about too much information when we talk about the conspiracy.
But let's go ahead and play that 911 call.
Okay, okay, uh let's go ahead and play that one call here for a second for y'all.
That Rothstein actually called into the police.
There she's a hoe.
What'd they say?
Someone said third, she's a hoe.
Yeah, of course, yeah.
She had 304 for sure.
She's a crazy 304, too.
Always hold on one second, guys.
All right, let me go to self-defense when he was asleeping.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yep, that is wild, right?
Yeah, it was at the end of this episode, I remember.
Okay, three weeks after Brian Wells' death.
Okay, this 911 call comes in, guys.
All right.
So uh let's get into it.
I'm only gonna play a portion of it so we don't get hit with the thing again on uh Netflix, because you know, they're haters.
There's a frozen body, it's in the freezer in a garage.
45 P Street in the garage.
Okay, so that's Rothstein calling into 911.
Ooh, Beach Street.
He says at 80s 8645 Peace Street in the garage, there is a frozen body.
There's a frozen body, it's in the freezer in a garage.
There's a woman there, which you might want to pick up in question.
84 by pastry.
Yes, how do you know that?
Trust me, I know.
Who are you?
I'm the guy who lives there.
Oh, man.
I'm the guy that lives there.
That's how I know.
That's how I know what that's the address that was in the note, right?
Uh-huh.
That's the address that was on the note.
It was uh one of the, I think it was no, no, it was not the address that was put on the note, but it was Pete Street.
It wasn't that particular address.
Okay, you're gonna see here the link here in a second.
I'm going to show y'all.
Thanks, sir.
Bill Rothstein.
Oh, look at...
Okay, boom.
Look at that, guys.
8645 Pete Street.
That's Rothstein's house.
And then this is where Brian Wells delivered the pizza.
Coincidence?
Sauce.
And here it is right here.
Literally, guys, right down the street.
And just so y'all know, 8645 Pete Street, right?
Which is now a chiropractor's office.
How far away is it?
Literally, like like a couple hundred yards, probably.
Okay.
Because this right here, guys, is a um a dead end.
Okay.
So it would make sense that they would make him drive all the way in here, right?
And then that's where you know the situation happened where the collar was put on his neck.
Um, etc.
And we're gonna talk about who was there and greeted him and put the collar on his neck here in a little bit.
But before I do, I need y'all to like the goddamn video.
We got um 997, y'all watch right now on YouTube.
Come on over to YouTube if you guys uh don't mind.
Go ahead and uh watch on YouTube and watch the Twitch at the same time.
I like the video on YouTube.
Let's get this thing engagement up.
Uh, like I said before, because YouTube is already uh hating uh in this case.
So let's see here.
And what is her name?
Marjorie Deal D I E E H L. Okay, and this woman is crazy, guys.
Marjorie Gale is at that residence now.
Yeah.
Uh I'll give you guys my story later on.
Yeah, you don't even wanna you don't even want to go into it.
Like, yeah, this is a chick is crazy.
Just so you guys know, it's basically his his girlfriend.
That's his house, right?
His childhood home, but she was living there at the time.
Okay, and she was had a bunch of bad habits, man.
She was a pack rat.
The house was literally disgusting.
I'm gonna show y'all some pictures from the search warrant that they did.
There's a further body in the crater.
In the garage, that was correct.
You know, crater.
Uh yeah, uh, I don't know.
Uh I just pinned it twitched link, you guys, so you have it there.
Yeah, you guys got it there just in case they try to hate on us again.
So we're gonna go ahead and type it.
Um, Peach Street.
Um what was I gonna show y'all?
The Pete Street.
Oh, yeah, search warrant.
Search warrant, uh Marjorie.
I spelled it wrong, but yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
Thank you.
The hell?
Do you think you're gonna find it like that?
Why don't you put like her last name?
Yeah, Armstrong.
Very.
Yeah, that's her.
Yeah, her house was all fucked up, guys.
The the USA verse deal.
No, that's not what I care.
Okay.
Yeah, just take my word for it.
It was literally like disgusting.
Let me see here if we can uh go back and they show parts of it.
Oh, the the house huh?
Yeah, the house.
Let me see if I can find it.
What was that?
Let me see if I can find it.
No, no, yeah, yeah, find it for me.
Um, and then share it on your screen.
Okay, so we're gonna go ahead on to this documentary here, guys.
True crime central here, and we'll go back to the Netflix one here in a bit.
But let's go ahead when Rothstein calls in.
Okay.
we're going to fast forward here Named William Rothstein calls police about a random jigsaw.
When a local Erie resident named William Rothstein calls police about a random murder committed by his ex-girlfriend, detectives start to think that the body he reported in the freezer isn't so random after all.
And keep in mind, guys, it's the body of James Roden, who showed before, who is her third man that's pretty much died under her watch.
I got a call from Marjorie, and uh she said that she had a problem, and she needed me to help clean it up.
So Pete, please give us Marjorie's full name.
Marjorie D. Please continue.
She told me that she had had a fight with her boyfriend, James Rhodes, and it shot him in the back with a shotgun.
Rothstein tells police the man in the freezer was Jim Roden, who was the current boyfriend Of Marjorie Deal Armstrong.
But why would Marjorie want to kill her boyfriend, Jim Roden?
And why did she solicit help from her ex, William Rothstein?
The place was a mess.
I mean, blood was everywhere.
And she wanted me to clean it up and dispose of the body.
Why would you come forward now to confess all this?
I'll have to admit she didn't pay me $70,000.
$70,000.
Ah, haters.
Haters coming.
Haters coming again.
I knew that was coming.
Alright, so now we know that this true crime central is also going to be lame.
Which is fine.
It's all good.
I'm gonna go ahead and read the chats.
Don't worry, guys.
I know some of y'all are freaking out right now.
I see y'all on YouTube going wild.
Don't worry about it.
It's gonna come back.
Haters will hate.
They could try, but they can't stop us.
Can still hear you on you on the stream, but they can see you.
No, no, no.
They uh so basically what happens is YouTube takes it down.
Should say stream suspended lol.
Okay.
Um, but what ends up happening is it comes back, and when you play it back, it plays.
Um, but it's because they think that is copyrighted.
It's it's weird.
The way YouTube operates is gay.
They yeah, that too.
Uh definitely.
Ha!
Gay!
But if they think it's copyrighted material, they'll just like automatically like suspend the stream just be to out of an abundance of caution, even if they know it is or is it or they don't know.
So anyway, uh uh uh let's go ahead and uh read some of these chats that came through.
Shout out to all you guys for all the support.
And like I said before, like the video, subscribe to the channel, because I already know that they bought it.
Hey!
I'm just all I know is I'm just gonna have to you know stop the stream a little bit more.
You got the the link to the Twitch, you guys.
It's fan on the chat.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Go ahead and go out, come on over to Twitch, guys.
I knew this was gonna happen.
Uh let's see here.
Um I'll go through these chats real fast.
So thank you guys so much for donating.
I really appreciate it.
Um I really do.
Uh, let's see here.
KA goes.
If you're reading this, like the video.
Yes, like the video.
Um, love all your content, Marian.
That's from Cali209.
I appreciate that greatly, my friend.
Uh Dicott.
Wow, y'all are hilarious.
Heike didn't want to arrest the Tates, but we NATO, so the M US Embassy was on her ass.
Forgive me.
What the fuck, bro?
Oh my god.
You guys are funny.
Uh this reminds me of the Black Mirror episode, Shut Up and Dance.
The writer probably got the inspiration from the from this case.
Probably.
Uh, not Whitey Bulger, James P. Bolger was a two-year-old killed by two by two 10-year-old boys.
Massive case in the UK.
And you have watched every fed it video.
Oh, thank you.
Okay, I'm writing it down.
Hang on.
Hang on.
Jared Troy, five bucks.
Told you out.
And we're back on YouTube.
We're back.
Um, yeah, so guys, the way I'm gonna have to do this is I'm gonna have to just um I'll go ahead and play this documentary from this channel.
I just gotta, you know, uh basically pause it often and give commentary and shit like that.
So you guys are gonna hear more insight from me.
So uh let's keep going here.
We're back on YouTube.
Shout out to all my Twitch ninjas, by the way.
We got uh almost 1,400 of you guys watching between all the platforms, so that's great.
Um, but do me a favor, guys, because I'm gonna have to take this down on str on Twitch.
Uh, because it's not fresh of it, to be honest with y'all, but I already knew to preemptively to prepare.
So go ahead and do me a solid.
Come on over to YouTube, watch it on YouTube, keep two tabs open, like the video on YouTube so you can get pushed more in the algo because they're definitely trying to hate.
But hey, I knew this.
I knew that doing this episode was gonna cause some problems.
But hey, I want to do it right, give y'all the documentaries and the sauce that are the best, and uh yeah, let's just go from there.
Is this the house of the crazy lady?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Okay, so yeah, just hit share screen on your stream yard.
And uh yeah, you know how to do that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Give me one second.
You gotta do it by share screen, though, not tabs to make it easier.
Okay, uh move your streamer to the other one.
I think it's this one.
Um, she wanted to so the police bring him in and ask him questions, right?
Uh uh uh oh, there you go.
Okay, so this is a picture, guys, of her house, which as y'all can see is freaking disgusting.
Hit control plus a few times, Angie, so they could see.
She was a literal pack rat.
When they did the search at her house, you she had uh cats that were malnourished and animals, and there was feces everywhere.
Scroll down.
Ew.
She had Diet Coke bottles everywhere.
Uh I don't know if there's another one.
It's I think this is just this one, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Well, y'all get an idea of how disgusting this woman was.
Yeah.
Again, I mean still trained.
Oh, woman.
So let's go back to the timeline real fast.
Um, okay, so Eric Police charge Dil Hamstrong and Rodin's death.
Allegedly, she fatally shot him in her East 7th Street house in Erie sometime before August 28th, and then helped move the body to Rothstein's Upper Peach Street House, south of Interstate 90, a summit township near Erie in Southern Erie Counter uh Erie County.
So guys, get this straight.
She killed her boyfriend, James Roden, before your guy, Brian Wells was killed with the bomb.
So she killed him first, the boyfriend, this dude right here.
Okay.
And they were able to preserve the body by putting him in the freezer.
And when they did the autopsy, they saw that he had got shot in the in the head with a shotgun.
His body was all fucked up.
All right, let's go back to uh to the doc here.
Well, I just want everybody to know that I had nothing to do with this Brian Wells case.
Brian Wells, you mean the color bomber?
It seems very strange to comes in immediately, and what does he do?
Oh, I don't have anything to do with this case.
So what does he do, man?
He's smart.
He comes to the police first because he knows at some point, right?
The feds are involved, FBI's involved, ATS involved, the state police involved, the Erie, the county police, everyone in their mom was investigating this case.
This was big guys.
This is FBI major case 203, by the way.
Okay.
This was all over the news.
And again, this is 2003.
Post 9-11 era where terrorism was the number one priority.
So he knew at some point, yo, they're gonna trace this bomb back to me.
Even though he had dumped a thousand uh pounds, it looks like, right?
If we go back to the timeline here, he had dumped a bunch of debris, right?
Uh 1,000 pounds of debris at Lakeview Landfill.
And again, a witness saw him do this.
Okay.
So this right here, very sus.
So he's trying to get ahead of it.
Police that this man being questioned about something completely different, would just off-handedly mention this doesn't have anything to do with the man with the collar bomb.
So why'd you tell us that now?
It draws our suspicion to you that you might be somehow involved with this case as well.
Are you involved?
The FBI wants to keep a close eye on Rothstein.
He is arrested.
Also, interesting thing.
So the state investigators interviewed him first, guys, right?
And then the FBI asked, hey, can we interview this guy as well?
Because they were certain that Rothstein was linked to the Brian Wells case with the bomb.
Why?
Well, because of this right here, my friends.
If you guys look here, right?
Look at his house in relation to where Brian Wells went to go deliver those two pepperoni pizzas.
Literally a few hundred yards.
Okay.
So they thought, yo, this is town of Erie.
This is too, you know, we don't believe in coincidences here.
This doesn't make sense.
Now, with that said, the police at this time, right?
The state police were the ones interviewing Rothstein as a murder case.
Why?
Because he called in saying, hey, uh, I got this body in the fridge.
I want to cooperate and help y'all out.
So they're looking at it as a homicide.
But once the FBI got wind that this guy called into 9-1-1 and he lives so close to where the pizza guy had delivered, they're like, nah, no, no, no, no.
This is this is not, this is not a coincidence.
So the FBI shows up, the case agent, Jerry Clark, right?
Who is uh this guy right here, matter of fact, I'll go ahead and show y'all real fast.
Okay.
Yeah, whatever.
Jerry Clark.
There he is, right here.
Came right up.
Oh, he's a PhC now.
Okay, this is Jerry Clark.
This is the FBI agent that did the case, right?
When Jerry Clark went in to go interview him, the first thing that this ass clown told him, Rothstein, was oh, uh, I'm the smartest guy in this room.
And the agent, right?
What does he do?
He looks around, he's like, Well, it's only me and you in here.
So, okay, I guess you're the smartest guy in the room.
It's not like my wife hasn't told me that before.
Ha ha ha ha, right?
Now, obviously, that's a very smart technique, right?
When you got narcissistic criminals like this that want to go ahead and think that they're the smartest in the room, and blah, blah, blah.
You appease their ego so that they're more comfortable talking to you.
Because as soon as you walk in, and you know, mind you, he had been interviewed by the state police.
Now an FBI comes in, uh, FBI agent comes in.
Oh, Jerry Clark, FBI, blah, blah, blah.
What does he say?
He wants to try to assert dominance.
I'm the smartest guy in this room.
Ho ho ho.
Because he thinks by him going to the police first, right?
He's kind of he's he's he's getting himself out of the conspiracy to a degree, right?
Because you guys are gonna see here that this guy Rothstein was definitely involved in this situation.
All right.
To a heavy extent, by the way.
Shout out to Mo that's watching the stream.
Shout out to Mo.
And charged with abuse of a corpse, and the local news picks up the story.
So that's a slap on the wrist.
He only gets charged with abuse of a corpse versus murder, conspiracy, or any of the other federal charges that the police are trying to put on him.
Anytime you have big media presence, and people just want to know about this case.
You can use that to your advantage.
And that's what the investigators did.
The news story prompts a witness to come forward with information.
The tipster tells police he saw William Rothstein using a public payphone on the same day Brian Wells died.
Oh, here we go.
Shit's about to get real.
I'm gonna show you guys that pay phone here in a second.
All right.
And when police checked the phone's records, they learned that a call was in fact placed to Mama Mia's Pizzeria on the day in question.
Gotcha, motherfucker.
Gotcha, bitch.
So he did place the call over to Mamma Mia Pizzeria.
Okay, and I'm gonna show y'all real quick where they made the call from.
Uh right here.
This is the payphone booth where the call to Mamias was made in order to uh to order the two pizzas that were to be delivered by Brian Wells, okay?
And this was at a shell station, guys, located right here.
It's closed now, right?
But let me enlarge this for y'all real fast.
I'll be stupid ads.
Okay.
This now closed shell gas station at the intersection of Pete Street and Robinson Road is where Marjorie Deal Armstrong and William Rothstein used a payphone to place an order for a pizza, which will be delivered by Brian Wells on August 28th, 2003.
And this witness guys worked for UPS.
Okay, so I think he was on a delivery route.
Maybe he was gassing up or whatever.
But he saw clear as day, Marjorie, okay, Armstrong, this chick, and this guy Rothstein at that shell gas station, all right.
Um at that shell gas station, placing a phone call, right?
And he remembers because he saw he walked into Marjorie um and saw her.
He saw her face.
And then also he knew it was Rostline because Rostine likes to wear overalls, okay?
Where he has the he always wears these goddamn overalls, which you're gonna see right here, even in his mugshop photo he has it on.
He always wears these overalls.
So he knew it was them right away.
And Rostine's a big guy.
You can't miss him, right?
He's a well over six feet tall.
And then Marjorie, she has that look at death on her face, and she purposely guys would shave her eyebrows to make herself look more crazy so she can appeal to um to the insane claim.
Uh this woman was not stupid, right?
She was mentally crazy, but she was not stupid.
All right.
So that witness got them dead to rights and saw them there with the payphone.
And I know some of you guys are probably laughing in the chat, like, wait, what are you talking about?
Payphone.
What?
Yes, guys, back in 2003.
What the fuck?
People used payphones.
Not everyone had a cell phone back then, okay?
It was very common to use a payphone.
All right.
Pizzeria, can I help you?
When they asked William Rothstein, were you on the payphone?
He admits, yeah.
I used to say, bitch.
He admits that he was on the phone.
Why?
Because the eyewitness placed him there, positively identified him and Marjorie.
Then a second witness comes forward saying they saw Rothstein at the local dump a few days before his arrest.
Oh, got you again.
They got him at the dump right here.
When?
On September 13th.
Okay?
Bill Rothstein was seen at the landfill dumping over a thousand pounds of something into the waste at the landfill.
What this says to invest.
My speculation, guys, is that what he dumped was materials used to make the bomb.
Okay.
Because he knew if I'm going to make this bomb, I need to get rid of all the tools.
He's off all the materials.
Again.
Yeah, well, it's fine.
L L L L A L A L L. It's fine.
They they they could uh we'll hit the chat.
Uh we'll hit the chats again.
I I'm prepared.
So it's okay.
We're straight, man.
Don't worry.
Shout out to all the Twitch ninjas watching right now.
Um, okay, I'll hit the chats and then we'll get back into it.
Uh let's see here.
Jared Choi.
Okay, cool.
Um, Angie, don't forget to unmark the ones that we already read.
Okay.
That's fine.
I'm talking about some of them right now.
Okay.
Kika Kika uh AD8 goes, uh, appreciate y'all.
Appreciate that.
Sparky Note goes.
Also, Myron, what are the best crypto you invest in?
I want to spread uh over more.
Um, dude, I just get Ethereum and Bitcoin.
I don't buy anything else at this point.
Uh, those are the most stable coins, so I just get those two.
Um, if you want to go, you should get in the crypto.
Oh, well, it's too late now.
I think they're already, it's already closed.
Uh, well, I guess get in it in the next time.
But me personally, I always just buy Ethereum and Bitcoin.
Nowadays I just buy Ethereum.
Uh Jonathan Hogu, that's Cap.
That Geo Metro couldn't drive 60 miles per hour.
Probably not, bro.
Uh, please tell Chris on ban me from the super chats.
I promise I won't won't make fun of Wales anymore.
Liproccoon.
Did he ban you?
Bro, I mean, it's always funny when you guys make fun of the fat girls.
Uh it always is funny.
Uh, you guys should also cover Columbine.
Uh, you know what?
We probably should.
That was the first big school shooting, actually, in American history that I can remember.
Uh, that was back in 1999.
I did they blamed Eminem and Marilyn Manson for that one.
So uh yeah, Columbine.
That's uh that's probably that's shit and one of the first major school shootings.
Uh Ikramuddin Zwain uh goes, how was he supposed to follow those instructions under that pressure?
That was devil plus demon time.
Absolutely, my friend.
I agree.
And again, like I said before, the police actually tried it and could not do it, man.
So um he was destined to die that day, guys.
We're back.
Shout out to all the ninjas on YouTube.
We are back on YouTube, guys.
Um again, uh guys, do me a favor, like the video on YouTube because like I said before, they're trying to they're trying to silence us, but it's okay.
I got y'all.
They can't stop us.
Okay.
Um, let's see here.
We got here.
So let's go back to the timeline.
Right.
So September 24th, 2003.
Police of federal agents questioned Rothstein about the Wells case.
He says he may have used the payphone that was the source of the final phone call to Wells.
Yeah, may have.
You mean you definitely did, buddy.
Uh mid-March 2004.
So you fast forward about a year later.
And Deal Armstrong, who suffers from a bipolar disorder, is transformed from the Erie County prison to Mayview State Hospital near Pittsburgh for a long-term psychiatric evaluation in the Rodin case.
She's off limits investigators while at Mayview because of her mental state.
Okay.
Then you fast forward to July 30, 2004.
Rothstein, 60, dies of cancer.
He says nothing about the Wells case investigators who question him on his deathbed.
Now, also I want to make the very uh very clear here for y'all.
So when he got um diagnosed with cancer, right?
And the investigators went over and talked to him, Jerry Clark and the other guy from ATF.
They went to go try to talk to him on his deathbed.
They said, hey, you know, listen, you're gonna go come clean.
Were you involved in this Wells case?
And he goes ahead, he's because he's too weak to talk.
He writes on a piece of paper, a big no.
And obviously, the you know, investigators ceased the questioning at that time.
He wouldn't want to admit to it.
And he ended up dying and taking the secrets with him to the grave.
Okay.
So let's go ahead and continue on with the timeline.
Uh uh.
Then January 7, 2005, Armstrong pleads guilty but mentally ill to third degree murder in Rodin's death in Erie County court and is sentenced to seven to 20 years in a state prison.
Now, she obviously does this as a plea deal, guys, because she knew uh that if she played guilty, right?
And and again, Rothstein had provided a multi a bunch of evidence to prove that she was the shooter and killed Rodin and asked him to help her with disposing of the body, but he didn't want to go through with it because at that point I think he knew he would have got caught if he was uh participating.
So he did two things.
He implicated her in that murder, and he distanced himself from the Wells case.
I think it was a two-pronged attack from him to uh avoid detection from police.
And he knew he was dying.
So he went that route, right?
Next, March 16, 2005, Dil Armstrong is transferred from Mayview to state correctional institution at Muncie.
Okay.
Uh April 20th and May 23rd, 2005.
The main investigators in the Wells case, John Cl Jerry Clark, who I showed y'all before of the FBI and Jason Wick of the ATF interviewed deal Armstrong.
She talks about Rothstein but refuses to answer questions.
Okay, so she starts being a pain in the ass, guys.
She doesn't want to answer questions.
You know, I need y'all to move me and transfer me to another center.
She wanted to be closer to her attorney because her attorney was complaining about driving to her all the time.
So she's trying to play hardball with the investigators, right?
So Clark and Wick, again, these are the two, the ATF and FBI agents, right?
Interview Armstrong at the state prison at Cambridge Springs.
According to the FBI, she says she killed Raiden, Rodent, sorry, to silence him in the Wells spot plot.
And she says she never spoke in detail about his killing because she feared it would implicate her in the Wells case.
Well, obviously, duh.
And she will go down for first degree murder.
But at this point, BOM MOCAD.
She had already pled guilty.
She was serving time for that.
So obviously double jeopardy.
They can't come and get after her now for first degree murder, which is what she deserved to get, but she didn't end up getting, okay.
This woman is on demon time, as y'all can see.
Because of her helmetal issues.
Yes.
So she was able, again, shaving her eyebrows, trying to make herself look crazy, and she was able to get away with it, right?
Uh in the summer of 2003, she says she gave Rothstein kitchen timers, integral components to the collarbom, and was a quarter of a mile from the bank robbery site when Wells was killed.
Armstrong first raised the possibility of immunity during the interview.
She kept talking and never ended up getting a deal.
She would later dispute the FBI's version of her statements.
Guys, this is key.
Why?
Well, if you guys look at the bomb, which I'm going to show you guys here real fast.
Actually, you know what?
Let me see if I have the evidence here if they have it.
The reason why this is key, guys.
They don't have a picture of the bomb.
Oh, yeah.
This was from Oh, this is from Ken Barnes' house.
Okay, we'll talk about that here in a little bit.
Whose house is this one from Bill Ross?
Okay, this is Bill Rothstein's house, guys.
So uh terrible.
These dudes were all messy fucks.
Oh, and here's the picture that uh Angie showed before.
Um let me see here.
So this is the bomb, right?
After it detonated, right?
You can see two sticks of uh two sticks of dynamite, right?
One got blew up, and then you can see two timers right here.
Let me enlarge this for y'all real quick so you guys can see what I'm talking about here.
You know what?
It's not enlarging the way I want.
You know what?
Here.
I got you right now.
Well, what's this from?
It was on his neck.
Brian Wells.
Is it the same one?
Yeah, the same one.
Uh oh, I see, because you had like.
I'm trying to show, yeah.
I'm trying to show you guys the replica version of it, which the guy had in a Netflix video, but I'm trying to get like a nice big one for y'all real fast.
Okay.
Is he not this?
OK, you busted.
OK, you.
See, because it had two timers, and I want to show y'all that one.
Okay, you know what?
We're gonna go back to Netflix right here.
We're gonna look it up where the bomb squad guy had it, because he he shows it, he shows it when they arrive on scene.
I think it's like forward.
Uh, right here.
Okay.
Bam.
Okay.
it was evident that he was deceased at that point.
*Musik *
The suspect still had part of the device secured to his neck.
I'm gonna mute it real quick so we don't get hit with that copyright is bad.
Let's see here.
Let's see.
They better not hit stream suspended.
I'm gonna be mad as hell.
Where the fuck?
God damn, this is a pain in the ass.
I think it's off Paul War, Murray.
Oh.
Okay, there we go.
Okay, bam.
All right.
There it is, right there.
It's not forward.
Okay.
Okay.
Um, here, let me turn the subtitles off so y'all can see that better.
Okay.
Here it is right here, guys.
So you can see here, there was a phone, two sticks of dynamite, and these two clocks here, right?
And let me enlarge this real fast so you can see this.
These two clocks right here.
So this is why this is so important, okay?
Because these two clocks were provided by Armstrong to Rothstein.
Rothstein, guys, was the one that built this bomb.
Okay.
He was a handyman.
He's very good with building stuff and uh very um sadistic, as y'all can clearly see, but he needed timers.
Marjorie, aka Armstrong was the one that provided him with these timers.
Now he put a cell phone in here.
He had a bunch of decoys in here that had nothing to do with the situation.
It was actually these two timers that set off the bomb.
This one was a decoy.
But these two were provided by her.
And the reason why this was so important, guys, is because it had not been released to the media that there were two timers in the uh in the bomb.
And she was able to specifically name the brand of the bombs.
Sorry, the brand of the of the timers.
Kitchen time, basically for cooking timers is what she used.
Okay.
So that was what effectively tied her to the conspiracy in the initial stages.
All right.
So let's go ahead and continue on here with uh the timeline.
July 19th and 20th, 2005.
Clark and Wick.
Well, let me show you all this.
Okay.
Clark and Wick interview Floyd A um J Stock, uh, Floyd A. J. Stockton Jr.
Rothstein's housemate at the time, Wells was killed.
He says Rothstein and Armstrong were involved in the bank robbery and bomb plot because they needed money.
Guys, this is very important.
Now you guys are probably wondering who the fuck is Stockton?
Well, Stockton is this guy right here.
Okay.
Convicted uh grapist, okay, out of Washington State.
So after this went down, guys, right?
After Wells was killed, Rothstein told Stockton, hey bro, get the hell out of town.
Okay.
You need to get out of town because there's a bunch of shit going on.
We're gonna have problems.
Get out of town.
So Stockton got the hell out of there, right?
At the time he was bumming off in Rothstein's house, just chilling, and he was a fugitive on the run.
So Marjorie, what does she do?
She tells the FBI about this Stockton guy that had been at the house at the time during this whole situation.
That's how the police got wind of him in the first place.
And then when they went to go talk to him, he goes ahead and admits that um that Armstrong was involved and Rothstein in the situation, obviously, in exchange for less time.
All right.
So August 11th, 18th, and uh August 11th, 18th, and September 13, 2005.
Clark and Wick interview Kenneth uh E. Barnes, deal Armstrong Armstrong's fishing buddy.
He says Armstrong before Wells was killed soliciting, uh killed solicited him to kill her father to stop her father from spending her inheritance.
Okay, now who is Kenneth E. Barnes?
Well, this is him right here, guys.
Kenneth Barnes is this guy, okay.
Kenneth Barnes is a drug dealer and somewhat pimp to whores in the area of Erie.
He's a crack cocaine dealer, okay?
Drug dealer in general, small time drug dealer selling drugs to a lot of prostitutes.
Why is this important?
Because he sells drugs to this girl right here, Jessica Hoopsick, okay.
This woman was a prostitute, and guess who she was banging?
This guy right here, Brian Wells.
Oh my goodness.
Okay, bum man.
So now you can see, guys, that this is all coming together, okay.
So Barnes, okay, is friends with Armstrong.
They go fishing, talk shit, etc.
And Armstrong tells him that I she needs her father killed.
Well, Barnes is like, okay, I could do it.
And he claims that he was just kidding around or whatever, and says, Oh, yeah, I'll do it, but I want 250,000 to do it.
And she's like, Okay, done.
He's like, okay, well, uh, if you really want me to kill him, I need 100,000 up front.
So she's like, okay, let's go ahead and Rob this bank, okay, get the money from the bank.
I pay Barnes, he kills my dad, then we're all sitting pretty with money.
Also, keep in mind, guys, at the time, Rothstein had that house on Pete Street, okay, that Armstrong was staying at.
He had it on the market for 250,000.
Coincidence?
I think not.
He the mark the house was only worth about 100,000 back then in 03, but he wanted 250,000 for it.
Okay.
So you can see here that he had issues with his estate.
She wanted her father killed so that she could get her inheritance.
And then this guy just basically wanted money in general because he had a drug problem, alcohol problem, and was a drug dealer.
Okay.
And then he was selling crack to Hoopsick, who was banging Brian Wells.
All right.
And then this guy, Pennetti worked with Brian Wells in the pizza shop.
However, he was just a drug addict and died from an overdose.
Okay.
They couldn't really link him to uh to the entire conspiracy.
And then Stockton was housemates with Rothstein.
Okay, guys.
So that is in general.
Don't demonstrate the um the cons the the links between all the individuals in this conspiracy.
So this lady just literally like gave out his name to uh like Brian's Wells to this drug dealer.
Yes.
So what happened was they Rothstein Armstrong and Barnes wanted to rob the bank, but didn't want to rob it themselves.
So they came up with this plan with the neck bomb, right?
The collarbom.
So they asked Hoopsick, or Bonds or Barnes asked Hoopstick, hey, who do you think we can get to do this?
And she says, Well, you guys can go ahead and bring Brian Wells.
He's kind of a pushover, he's kind of a pussy.
Why?
Because this guy would simp on her.
He would buy her groceries, buy her food, hang out with her family.
She was one of his Johns, but he would like treat her kind of like a girlfriend, which is uh very uh, you know, you stupid.
But it is what it is.
But she knew that he was a simp and a trick.
So what did she do?
She lined him up for Ken Barnes.
Okay.
Now, there's a you know, speculation that Brian Wells was involved in the conspiracy, and that he knew what was going on.
It's just that he didn't know that the bomb was real.
They told him that the bomb was fake, that he would be able to escape without getting issues because he's a hostage in the situation.
Um after looking at all the evidence, I think that he didn't know personally.
Um, and hoopsick actually comes out in a documentary and says that he didn't know.
And I'll show you guys that clip here right now, if y'all want.
Let me sh boom.
She confesses that she was the one that brought him on uh in the situation.
Okay.
So hopefully I don't get hit with YouTube here, real quick.
Uh, before I do this, though, uh, we got a couple chats that came through.
Okay, guys, do me a favor, like the video.
We're gonna go ahead and play this clip for y'all at the risk of potentially getting kicked off YouTube again.
But let's do it.
I think he was a good guy.
And in a steady strong.
I could do this to somebody who I cared about.
She lined him up.
My name is Jessica Hoopsick.
I'm a friend of Brian Wells, and I'm ready to tell the real story now.
And mind you, just so you guys know, right?
Um, the person that made this documentary had tried to interview her before, right after the trial, and she said no, right?
So what ends up happening is she gets arrested for a drug charge and she goes to jail.
Guess who she ends up in jail with?
Next to her, her favorite person, aka Marjorie um Armstrong, this girl right here, right?
She gets in jail with the crazy one.
So Marjorie knows that Hoopstick had testified in court against her, okay, for the federal case.
So what does she do?
She tracks her down and corners her at the yard and tells her, I'm gonna whoop your ass, I'm gonna kill you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
All this shit, right?
So now, Hoopsick is like, you know what?
I'm gonna go ahead and finally give the documentary uh a shot.
I'm gonna talk to you guys to tell y'all the real story because there was a bunch of contention if Wells was actually involved in this conspiracy.
And for obvious reasons, she didn't want to Say uh give her side of the story because it makes her look really bad.
But at least she came forward and told the truth.
Um, which I I do believe her in this case, because this doesn't make her look good.
So I I think she more than likely this is the truth that she lined him up.
I want people to know that he was innocent.
I want people to know that he was innocent.
I think he was a good guy.
And she ended up having a kid later, guys, and she claims that it's uh Brian Wells' kid, which is a I don't know, it's worse.
Uh having a kid with a prostitute or smashing a prostitute raw, but that's a whole other discussion, I guess.
Ew.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Fast forward this.
Okay.
So she's talking about Ken Barnes here.
He wanted me to find a gopher to rob a bank for him.
Again, and this is who she's talking about right here, just to put a picture to the name.
This guy, Ken Barnes, right here.
And she knows Ken Barnes because he sells her crack cocaine, guys, all right.
He wanted somebody who they could scare into doing this that would not run, that would not call the cops.
They said that it wasn't gonna be real, it was just gonna be a scare tactic to scare him into going to rob the bank.
Oh, yeah, sure.
It's not gonna be real.
It's it's gonna be just a scare tactic, man.
Stop the cow.
So y'all can see the diabolical's plan here.
So they want to rob the bank, they want to get the money so that Marjorie, right?
Again, to piece this together for you guys, right?
I know this is a complex situation.
So Rothstein, Armstrong, and Barnes plan to rob the bank.
Armstrong has a big inheritance that she's her father has that she thinks she's entitled to, right?
Which we're gonna get into that in a little bit as well.
So she hires Barnes to kill her father.
However, Barnes wants a hundred thousand dollars down payment and 250,000 to do the hit.
So she says, let's rob the bank for 250,000.
I'll give you the money, you kill my dad.
We're all gonna get money, we're all gonna be sitting pretty.
You'll be able to sit deal with your estate.
I'll be rich, and Barnes, you can be rich as well, and get all the crack hores that you want, right?
So Barnes is like, okay, well, I don't want to rob the bank.
That's a lot of Fed time.
He had been done, he had been arrested before for drug trafficking.
So he's not stupid.
He knows it's a federal charge automatically for robbing a bank.
So, yo, let's get an idiot that'll rob the bank for us that we won't won't necessarily be able to trace back.
So let's go ahead and get somebody random.
Let's get the fucking pizza guy.
So Rothstein, right, goes ahead.
Rossline goes ahead and uh builds a bomb, okay.
Can cost the plan with Armstrong, and here's Barnes right here.
And they use this dumb prostitute to lure this guy um to the pizza spot where they made the phone call where you guys remember right here from this shell station.
So they had him set up the whole time and sent him to an address that they knew was gonna be rural and deserted and no one else would be there.
Who put the the collar on his neck?
It was uh the person that put the collar on his neck, good question, was Stockton.
Okay.
Stockton put the collar on his neck.
So when he arrived at the location, he was met by Barnes, Armstrong, Rothstein, and Stockton.
Okay.
She wasn't there.
She just was the one that said that this is the guy that you want.
He worked at this pizza spot, right?
And Bran Wells was paying this girl to have sex.
Yes, she was a woman that he would see uh fairly often.
Oh, another reason too, which you guys are gonna see here in a second, why he was not involved in the conspiracy, which hoopstick is gonna talk about, which I won't disclose.
But so he gets to the location, and these four are meet and meet him.
They offered me $5,000.
I was high for about three days, and I called Kenny and told him, can you give me some money now if I tell you this guy's name?
And he said, Well, I'll give you some some crack now.
And I said, Okay, so you, you I went down there and I said, Well, I know this guy, Brian.
I said, and he's you know, you could he's a pushover, you could probably use him.
He's a pushover.
You can use him.
I um set it up for the next week to bring Brian over there.
So I brought Brian over there.
Okay.
So this house right here is Brian.
Uh is um, this is Ken, uh Ken Barnes, okay, crack house.
Okay.
Ken Barnes, guys, operated pretty much like a stash house slash crackhouse slash whorehouse.
Okay.
Um, and this address is right here.
Um God damn it, where'd I put it?
Oh, right here.
617 Perry Street.
Okay, guys.
This is the address where um Hoopsick brought Brian and Ken Barnes was able to get a look at him, right?
She made it look like it's, oh, yeah, I'm just bringing my John here so that we can smash.
But the real reason she brought him over there was so that Ken Barnes can size him up, get an idea who we who he was, and then bam, they'd plot to call the pizza shop and get him to that secluded location over there on Peach Street over here, which we talked about earlier, uh, right here.
Okay.
So that's the real reason she brought him to that address.
And if you guys are wondering, the FBI, right, which I went ahead and got the search warrant for y'all.
Don't demongo one.
Ended up doing a search at this house to get evidence.
Okay.
I, Gerald C. Clark Jr. being duly sworn to pose that stay.
I'm a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, blah, blah, blah.
And he goes and says, I love me, which if you guys watch FedEd, I explain how affidavits are written for y'all, right?
And this is the affidavit as far as like how they searched the information that they got to search the home.
Okay.
Right.
You can see here that they've done some interviews with confidential informant one.
Okay.
They've been acquainted with Ken Barnes for approximately seven, eight years.
Confidential one and uh uh confidential informant one uh indicated that Barnes considers him to be a close associate and trust the CI, right?
And then he gave information on the house.
Like I tell you before, any time you see a search warrant for a home, it means a CI is involved, right?
Um, and then they go ahead and put his criminal history in there because you have to do that, right?
Because you gotta show how dependent or undependent the um person is.
Talk more about the informant, right?
And they wrote all this to basically get a search warrant, right, for the house.
Um, so they had two CIs, all right.
And then also they take an interview for Marjorie Deal Armstrong on July 5th, 2005.
She indicated that on day of the bank robber, she used a cellular telephone that was not hers.
However, previously on May 19th, 2005, uh Deal Armstrong told another inmate at the state correctional institute at Muncie, a cooperating witness, that William Rothstein had eight to ten cellular telephones in different names, and that she used one of the cell phones to call Rystein during the robbery.
In light of Barnes' previous statements concerning his knowledge and involvement with Marjorie Deal in the bank robbery and the death of Brian Wells and his concern that investigators may have seized the cellular telephone in his residence.
There's probable cause for investigators to search and seize this item and search its contents.
The cellular telephone number can be compared to cellular telephone tower data from August 28, 2003, which is can has been obtained by investigators to determine whether the cellular telephone was utilized on the date in the vicinity of the seller telephone to tower servicing the area in which the collarbomb incident took place, and the contents of the seller telephone can be retrieved for analysis of any further connection Barnes has with this case.
Okay, so they were they went ahead and got a search warrant signed by the judge, right?
On May 5th, 2006.
And then this guy's okay, got y'all again.
I got the actual search warrant, right?
That shows what they got out of the house.
Again, this is Ken Barnes's house, guys.
Okay.
Like the goddamn video.
All right.
Um and y'all can see here, right?
That this was uh the actual search warrant, right?
That was given to him.
So that what I showed y'all before, this is the affidavit, right?
You have to set file an affidavit in support of a search warrant, right, with all your facts.
Then you get the search warrant signed by the judge, right?
Now, here is the return.
Okay, guys.
Anytime you do a search warrant, you have to get uh bring something called return and put exactly what you took from the house.
So let's take a look at what they took from that house.
So see attached um FD597.
And the reason for that is because that's their form, right?
So and this is the certification, Right.
So this is what they took.
This is the with the day that they did it.
This is the case number, the FBI case number, right?
617 address.
So they took uh shot VAC containing sweepings from the basement, um type written, hard drives, Nokia track phone, black Boone's book, um, drives license of Elmer Keith, uh, credit cards, access cards, telephone, answering machine, panasonic, safe deposit box, and a pager, a GTE pager.
That's what they took, okay, from the search.
Okay, and this is the FBI document right here.
This is the FD597.
That's the uh the receifer received and return release.
So they basically gave this copy to Ken Barnes.
They probably served him with this after the fact.
Okay.
So uh let's go back.
My bad.
Guys, like the video.
Because like I told y'all before, I was preparing all this for the show for y'all.
Um where were we at here?
Oh, okay.
So going back to this is Hoopstick's uh account of how she set Brian Wells up.
And this was again at the stash house that I just showed y'all.
And he's seeing who Brian was, and but I didn't introduce him or anything.
I just took Brian in, seeing him and then took him out.
They asked me for his work schedule.
The next day, Marsh gave me $1,500.
So Marge is the one that paid her $1,500.
Okay.
This is critical evidence, guys.
They told me it was gonna be.
And that is why Marge hates her so much, by the way, as well.
Keep in mind, what did March say?
You lying bitch, I'm gonna kill you, blah, blah, blah.
And she threw in there at the jail.
Why?
Because Hoopstick had the dirts on her.
But then they canceled it because Marge had something to do.
She couldn't be there.
Okay, you guys are probably wondering, what the fuck is this, Myron?
That is the body of this guy right here, guys.
James Roden, as we discussed before.
Um, she shot him in the head, okay, and then he she he died weeks before Wells was killed on August 28th.
She killed him, and then she needed to stash the body somewhere.
So who does she hit up?
She hits up Rostin, one of them boys.
Hey, I need help stashing this body.
Ross Stein puts the body in his house over there on Peach Street, right here.
Okay.
Again, this is a complex case, so I'm repeating myself because I really want y'all to understand.
He puts the body there, and then he calls the police, right?
Couple days after the after Brian Wells is dead because he could feel the heat and says, yo, this guy's body's at the house, and it was who?
Marjorie that killed him, aka this bimbo right here.
Okay, miss no eyebrows.
Miss No Eyebrows.
She was the mustermining in all these.
I would say her and from me looking at this case, I think her and Rossine were the two masterminds.
She uh she came up with like the general idea.
She was like the main stimuli because she wanted her father dead, and then Rothstein is the one that was the arms.
He was the one that built the bomb, etc.
So that's Jane Rodin's body, guys, after they thought him out, etc.
from the freezer.
Please like the video on YouTube, guys.
Get me to 1,000 plus likes on here, because y'all already know I'm about to get demonetized to death.
What about the pre-robbery meeting the day before?
The one that Barnes and Stockton say that Brian was at.
Okay, quick little recap.
So, guys.
Barnes and Stockton, okay, claimed that Wells met with them the day prior to the bank robbery on August 27th, okay?
And they met and planned this all out, okay?
And that he was a willing conspirator.
Let's see if that's actually true based on what hoopstick says.
Um I was with Brian the day before for a couple hours.
I don't believe that he was there that day.
I mean, I know he was supposed to go to work at like four o'clock that night, and he was with me from like 12 until like 230, which would have gave him time to go home and get ready for.
So I don't believe he was with them that day.
And there you have it, my friends.
That I think is kind of the smoking that he was not There and conspired with these guys to rob the bank.
Because if you think about it, it doesn't make sense.
Why would he be the one to take all the risk, put the collar on his neck, etc., right, with a bomb on it, even if they told him allegedly, like, oh yeah, like nah, bro, it's not real, etc.
Like, no, man.
I think that he didn't know what was going down, and that they just and they ambushed him when he showed up at the um at the tower, okay, and put the and put the collar on his neck.
But you guys are probably wondering, yo, Myron, well, why would they lie about that?
Well, there's a reason, my friends.
The reason why they lied about it, guys, is because murder has no statute of limitations.
So by saying that he was a willing conspirator, what it basically did was it took the death penalty off the table for the federal case.
Okay, and what they ended up getting them on is what here is the indictment right here.
Okay, guys.
And uh, you know, I'm I'm gonna give myself another document.
I got all the documents here.
God damn it Mongo.
Like the goddamn video, guys.
All right, ain't nobody going as hard.
So they got him with uh 18 UFC 371, which I know off the top of my head is conspiracy, 924 C1B, and 2113 and 2113E, which, if I'm not mistaken, it's uh use of a destructive device and uh bank robbery.
Let's see here.
Mannor and means of conspiracy.
Okay, this is the indictment that they got them all on.
Overt acts, which if you guys know, right?
A conspiracy is basically done when it's an agreement between two people to commit an illegal act and then an overt act.
So, for example, right?
Uh, let's say me and Angie, right, plan to rob a bank, right?
And I go ahead and get the rent the getaway car, she gets some gloves, and then Mo helps out with helping us count the money at the end.
Basically, the fact that I got the getaway car is an overt act in further to the conspiracy.
So they will use that as an overt act to get us for the bank robbery and the conspiracy because I took actions to make sure that we would actually commit the crime.
And uh Angie as well.
Uh, let's see here.
Let me see the charges.
But you would be the mastermind.
Yeah, I would probably be the mastermind if I was the one that planned it.
Yep, and I would get the most time.
Of course.
So count two.
Oh, this is an old-ass indictment.
They don't list out the crimes like they should be.
Okay, here I got y'all right now.
FBI, uh pizza bomber.
Right here.
Okay, this is the archive.
Okay, they ended up getting them.
The charges were, god damn it.
The charges were, god damn it.
Oh, conspiracy to commit bank robbery, armed bank robbery, and using and carrying a destructive device in a crime of violence.
Okay, let me enlarge that for y'all real quick, my bad guys.
This is an old FBI archive from when was this?
2007.
God damn.
I was in I was a junior in high school.
But yeah, these were the charges.
Uh, conspiracy to commit bank robbery, armed bank robbery, and using and carrying a destructive device in a crime of violence.
All right, so I had most of them right.
All right.
Uh, and that was this indictment right here, as y'all can see.
Okay, this is the actual official indictment, which you can tell how old it is all.
Faded and shit.
Faded and shit.
I had a lot of remorse for a lot of stuff I did and a lot of all right.
So, yeah, she feels bad because she set him up, and she should feel bad because I was fucked up.
So let's fast forward here.
Like, basically kill him.
Yeah, basically, she set him up to die.
Real talk.
So this is kind of what happened.
And company decide to target and she killed him.
All right, that's her killing Rodin.
That that's her killing James Brody.
Yeah, the dramatization is hilarious.
Seems as if investigators have learned all the details.
L dramatization.
Yeah, what's the thing?
What's that week?
Why did Deal Armstrong and company decide to target Brian Wells to be the bank robber?
Oh my god.
Well, that's when Kenneth Barneshell on him.
Brian Wells was in on the plot hall.
Okay, we know that That was not true.
So this at this documentary is actually wrong about this.
We know, thanks to the to the 304, right?
That she belongs to the streets.
We know that Brian Wells actually was not in on it, and he didn't know what the hell was going on.
And to be honest with you, I believed the prostitute because she makes herself look really bad because she has to admit that she set him up to die.
Okay.
And that's why she didn't want to do the interview in the first place.
So what's here's what really went down, guys.
So he shows up, right?
Brian Wells, and let's go ahead and pull up this.
And again, just so you guys know, let me show y'all this real fast.
This so again, here are all the conspirators, right?
And here is a screenshot.
So Brian Wells gets the uh gets the uh the delivery for two um pepperoni pizzas, I think with sausage, fat bastard.
He goes all the way back here, right?
When he gets back here, he's met by um Ken Barnes, Armstrong, Marjorie uh Armstrong, William Rothstein, and Stockton.
Okay, and what ends up happening is they basically grab him up, okay.
They grab him up and they put the collar on him, right?
So I think Barnes, Barnes grab Barnes grabs him, smacks him, and then Stockton comes over and puts the collar on his neck.
All right.
While this was all going down, and Wells is trying to um struggle, is fight back and struggle.
Rothstein shoots a gun in the air to let him know, hey, we can we can kill you, right?
So that's what I think Wells meant when he said they were shooting at me.
He might have not seen it, but Rossline shot a gun in the air, and then Armstrong is there as well, observing everything going down.
But the two people that Mason mostly had their hands on him were Barnes and Stockton.
Okay.
So Stockton puts the the clamp on his neck, and then they tell him, hey, this is what you gotta do, and they give him the instructions and tell him get the fuck out of there.
You got 55 minutes.
And then obviously the saw situation ended up going down.
Live or die, it's your choice.
If you guys remember uh what Jigsaw would famously say.
Um, so that's kind of what went down there when he went back over there to that area.
Okay, and obviously he was set up by Hoopsick, um, who basically told Ken Barnes that he was a guy she got paid $1,500 by Marjorie for setting this guy up, and Barnes gave her some free crack cocaine.
All right.
So she literally killed the man for crack.
Yeah, she did it for cracking 1500 bucks.
Originally it was supposed to be five thousand dollars, but I guess she she took a crack discount.
Don't do drugs, you guys.
Don't do drugs, guys.
Crack is whack.
Um, let's see here.
So let's go through the timeline some more.
Make sure we didn't miss anything.
Uh okay.
So, okay, May 10th, 2006.
Uh okay, yeah.
Federal agent search Barnes, then residents in the 600 block of Perry Street and Erie for bomb-making components and other items.
Um, Armstrong would talk to Wick and Clark.
Remember, those are the two agents from ATF and FBI, total of eight times.
This was the date of her last interview, along with her personal lawyer Lawrence D. Ambrosia, who encouraged her to talk.
She goes on a ride with Wick and Clark in a summit township.
She points out where she was throughout the day when Wells was killed, according to the FBI.
Yeah, they actually took her out, guys, to um to get pretzels and uh diet coke, and she ended up talking.
No way, yeah, yeah.
She was so sheep, like crack pretzels and coke.
Hey man, hey man, get some get some goddamn.
Actually, it was in this documentary.
Let me see here if I can show show y'all.
I'll show I'll show y'all here.
Can't ever say about it.
She belongs to the streets.
Yeah, she definitely belongs to the streets.
Let's see here if they if they're gonna if I can find it.
I forget which episode it was in.
I think it was this one.
Oh, yeah, it was this one.
So here they are leading her away, guys, right?
As y'all can see, here's the two case agents.
Here's Jerry Clark and the guy from ATF, right?
They're leading her from the jail, right, to take her on the ride.
Did you were you the mastermind behind this Brian Wells case?
I wasn't even involved.
Fucking stupid, stupid.
I don't know why she's talking.
See, as you as y'all can see the FBI agents are quiet as hell.
They don't want to say, well, the FBI and ATF guy are quiet as hell.
They don't want to say shit.
And she's over here yapping her gums away.
And they probably told her, too.
Don't say shit to the press that she's still over here talking.
I did nothing.
You didn't do the collarbop.
Nothing.
I'm in it.
I'm innocent.
Stop the cow.
Who's framing you?
Was Bill Rothstein the mastermind?
Bill Rostein and the government are framing me.
Okay, if frame me, okay, and the rest of these lion, lion perjuring wickes.
Yeah, as she gets into a government car.
What?
You're working with the governor right now.
Bruh.
What are you talking about?
Like.
Stupid.
And also, not to mention, I also want to mention this as well, guys.
So they said perjuring witnesses.
Just so you guys know, there were a bunch of people that were housed with Marjorie that came forward and said that she confessed to shooting her ex her that first boyfriend back in the 80s, six times while he was asleep, and she got away with it.
She would brag about how she got away with it.
She also bragged about how her and Rothstein committed this crime together and how Rossline made the bomb, and she had hired Ken Barnes to kill her father so that she would get money.
She was literally obsessed with getting this money out of inheritance, which is funny because her father, OK, had taken her off their inheritance.
Ah, love you, father.
Don DeMarco for him.
Don DeMarco.
What a stupid girl.
Literally was out here making a whole crazy plot, right?
To kill her dad for 250k, get pizza men to blow up shit and going into banks and creating uh fucking cane shotguns and all this other shit.
Meanwhile, she was never on the will.
What a nail.
What a no.
Oh man, W dad, man.
W dad.
Shout out to him.
What I don't understand is that um she killed all these people to kill all her husbands and boyfriends.
Why didn't she just kill her dad?
She tried to, but she didn't want to.
Oh, uh, because the paper trail would have been too too too easy to trace back to her.
Yeah, but you can you see like how easy it is for like to get her on this thing, like I'm shocked that she got by on the other ones, like when she was like, 'cause she the first one she claimed self-defense.
She shot him six times while he was whatever, and she said she was an abusive relationship, and she got off.
She could have done that with her dad.
But then with the second guy, she had to like, he got hit, he hit his head on a table and died.
But she was never like accused of being a uh a crook.
So I think if she if her dad died too, it would have been too too obvious.
If they would have been like, bro.
So I think she wanted to distance herself.
Because at this point, think about it.
She had the bank robbery, she didn't even want to be involved in that.
She knew she was under the radar from the police.
Okay.
And her time was ticking.
Okay, I can see that.
So she wanted Ken Barnes to do it instead.
All right, so let's go real quick.
Uh, so you guys can see what I'm talking about here when she cooperated with the police.
Daddy can't.
There's no physical evidence.
She and I want y'all to pay attention to that.
She keeps saying there's no physical evidence.
I never confess anything.
Crook, man.
That's some crook type comment shit.
On that day, she was just um, I think glad to be out of prison.
Said Marjorie's like something to eat.
Yeah, let's get a uh something at the country fair here.
So we stopped.
Marjorie asked for some pretzels.
So I went in, grabbed a bag of pretzel rods, a couple diet cokes, and we sat in the back and we're eating pretzel rods, drinking Diet Cokes while we're driving around looking at locations.
And it was W police right there, man.
And real quick, I want to mention to y'all, um, when they raided her house the first time, right, on Peach Street when she was living there.
Uh, they found literally like Diet Coke bottles everywhere.
It was literally disgusting.
So this woman had loved Diet Coke.
I don't know why, because Diet Coke is trash, it's all about Coke Zero, but you know, it is what it is.
It was almost like you had, you know, just your family member that you're taking around for a ride.
There's a bomb again.
See, guys, you can see the two timers in there.
And again, critical piece of evidence is that she said that she provided the two timers and she was able to name the brand.
And again, that was not released to the media at the time.
So that was a very solid piece of evidence.
Oh, and they're gonna talk about that here actually right now.
She divulged that Mr. Rostin had requested two kitchen timers from her, and that was significant because up to that point, the media, of course, had a lot of information, released a lot of information on this case.
Um, but they did not know and did not release the fact there were two timers in this device.
When she said Mr. Rostin wanted two, and she provided two.
That was a significant piece of information.
Boom.
So uh, okay, so what do we got here?
So we're gonna go back to the timeline real quick, guys.
Okay.
Uh a federal grand jury, which was which has been meeting in the Wells case for close to two years and was about to have his term expire, indicts Armstrong and Barnes on the felonies of armed bank robbery.
Again, guys, Barnes, the fishing guy that she's friends with that she conspired to kill her dad with, drug dealer, and Armstrong.
Uh conspiracy to commit uh armed bank robbery and using destructive device into crime and violence.
The grand jury names Wells and Rothstein is unindicted co-conspirators.
And the reason why is because Wells was dead and Rothstein was dead as well at this point.
That's why they were unendicted co-conspirators.
And keep in mind, guys, like I said before, the reason why Barnes and Marjorie and uh the other guy who actually was not indicted, this dude, um Stockton, right, didn't say it kept saying that Wells was in a was a willing to participant as because they're not stupid.
If he was not a willing participant, what ends up happening?
They can all get the death penalty.
Okay, so that's why that was a key reason why they said that he was a willing participant.
July 11, 2007, the U.S. Attorney's Office unseals the indictment.
Stockton is not named in the indictments.
He reaches an immunity deal with the government in exchange for testifying against Armstrong and Barnes.
And again, that is the child grapist right here.
And I think at this point, he was already in prison, guys, on a grape charge out in the state of Washington.
That's another reason why they didn't want to charge him, because he was already serving time.
Go back to the timeline.
July 29th, 2008, U.S. District Judge Sean McLaughlin uh rules, Armstrong incompetent for trial, largely because of her bipolar disorder.
He orders her to undergo more mental health exams in the federal prison system.
September 3rd, 2008.
Barnes pleads guilty before McLaughlin to conspiracy to commit bank robbery as well as using a destructive device during a crime of violence, both felonies.
So Barnes can uh pleads guilty, okay?
So he's done.
The drug dealer is done.
December 3rd, 2008.
McLaughlin sentences Barnes, then 54 to 45 years in federal prison, but he agrees to testify against Armstrong.
Gotcha, bitch.
September 8th, 2009, McLaughlin Laflin finds Armstrong competent to stand trial.
Okay.
Uh March 10th, Armstrong has a cancerous lump removed from her neck and is later diagnosed with glandular uh cancer that originated in one of her breasts.
Okay.
Also, I don't know why they didn't mention this, but um Barnes got 23 years knocked off of a sentence to testify against Armstrong.
So he ended up getting only about 20 years, okay, to uh to testify against her.
Uh August 12th, 2010.
At a court hearing, McLaughlin, this is the judge again, reviews a physic physician's report that gives Armstrong three to seven years to live.
The prosecutor, assistant United States attorney Marshall Pacini, said he plans to proceed with the trial.
He said he would have considered halting the trial if the medical report had given Armstrong less time to live.
McLaughlin sets a trial date for October 12th.
October 12th, 2010, jury selection begins in Armstrong's trial.
November 1st, after delivering 11 hours and 30 minutes over two days, the jury convicts Armstrong of all the charges.
February 28, 2011, McLaughlin sentences Armstrong to life in prison plus 30 years.
Oh my god.
The federal prison system has no parole.
So she's still impressive.
No, she died.
She died.
She ended up dying, I think, in 2017, and uh and Barnes died in 2019.
Okay.
So everyone in this case is pretty much dead.
I think maybe Except for the prostitute.
I think the prostitute is still alive.
And let's see here.
Who's still alive?
He's dead.
Dead room.
Hold on, let me put the picture for y'all.
So Pennetti, dead, drug overdose.
Wells obviously dead because you know he had the bomb blew up.
Um Hoofstick, to my knowledge, right now, still alive.
Barnes died 2019.
Armstrong died 2017.
Rothstein died in 2000.
When the hell did he die?
God damn it.
Let's go back to the timeline.
He died July 30th, but I forget the year for some odd reason.
Was it 2004?
Yeah, uh, hold on.
July.
July 30, 2004, Rothstein died.
60 of cancer.
Okay.
Okay.
So he's Dead.
Stockton, I think, is still alive.
So I think the only two people that are left here are Stockton and Hoopsick.
They tried to interview Stockton for the for the documentary, but he said no.
Um so yeah, the thing that got Armstrong, guys, again, was her links to Rothstein, right?
Uh Barnes, the two biggest people that testified against her here, guys, in this case, were Stockton, Barnes, Hoopsick, and also they brought the women that um that she confessed to in the prison that she was involved in the Wells case.
There were a couple of them.
Hell, one of the prisoners actually took notes when Armstrong was admitting to being involved in the Wells case with Rothstein.
Yeah, yeah, very, very stupid.
She bragged, man.
This is typical narcissistic behavior.
So not surprised.
Yeah.
So she's where she needs to be, probably in hell.
Because uh, you know, at the end of the day, she's behind a bunch of men dying.
Like she killed three, she killed four dudes, if you think about it.
She killed her husband, she killed her boyfriend, and then she killed Rodin, who was her other boyfriend, this guy right here, right?
Shot his ass with a shotgun because he he claimed that he was gonna go to the police once he figured out that this conspiracy he didn't apparently he wasn't getting enough gonna get enough of the money from the bank robbery heist, so she killed him.
And uh, and yeah, so she's behind four, and then obviously Wells.
So she's behind four different uh males dying.
Um and then Rossline, he took his uh uh secret to the grave, but we know he was involved because um the kitchen timers, he was a handyman, he was dumping a bunch of but dumping a bunch of debris.
Also, he made the pay phone calls uh to Wells to the pizza shop, so and witnesses saw him there.
So, yeah, man, there's there's no way around.
And then obviously Barnes knew her very well, fishing buddy.
He asked her to kill her father, and uh yeah, that was L. So, yeah, guys, that is the case.
Summarized.
Um, Angie, what are your thoughts on this situation?
I know it was gonna be crazy.
Very one of the most bizarre cases of all time that we've covered on this uh show.
It is pretty crazy.
They never got the money.
No, they never they got 8,000 bucks and they didn't even get that.
Man, they spent more on on setting the plot than what they got from it.
Yeah, they probably did spend more.
Yeah, building that bomb took months.
They paid that the only winning like person was the lady, the uh the person.
Oh, did the prostitute serve in prison?
No, she never served any time.
Interesting.
She never served any time for this crime.
She uh because she they they just never charged her, FBI never charged her, even though she set Brian up to die.
That's just crazy.
Yep.
What would she have done to not get charged?
Uh I mean, it was after it was way after the fact.
At that point, I think the case agent had retired.
The case was kind of done.
They had got their main conspirators.
So uh maybe maybe uh she maybe she uh probably got some kind of deal because again, she testified against Marjorie in the federal trial.
Oh, right, because she taught.
So that might have been a situation as well.
That she worked something out with them.
Well, we'll I'll have charged her anyway.
It's like L justice system.
Yeah, yeah, that's how it is, man.
A lot of times crooks walk so that they can go and get the masterminds.
Like the government is always more interested in getting the guys at the top of the total pole, and unfortunately, a lot of the times you have to let other people go.
Question will this have been uh this have been like a racketeering um charge or something?
Um that's a good question.
Um this could have been a racketeering charge, a Rico charge if they were a part of a gang, but they weren't again.
Yeah, you need to be able to establish that it's an enterprise.
That's like the that's like the baseline foundation for you being able to charge someone racketeering.
You need to establish that they have a criminal enterprise and there's some type and they're working together in further of the organization.
So um in this case, I don't think racketeering charges would have sufficed.
Um and then you would have had to have like multiple crimes going on over a period of time.
In reality, this was just one crime over like one like one right, like they didn't have like a pattern of racketeering activity.
I thought it was just it's just needed to be an organization.
Yeah, why why was the FBI um involved?
Uh, because it was a bank robbery.
Okay, so if it bank robberies in the United States are automatically investigated by the FBI, And the reason for that is because banks are federally insured.
So if you rob a bank, it's automatic FBI's coming after you.
Okay.
So anything that's FDI insured is going to be FBI.
And then also the fact that there was um a bomb used in this situation, brought the ATF in.
Right.
Automatically, it was gonna probably be federal.
Okay.
The ATF was was uh what?
Uh Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco on Fire.
Right, right.
So ATF, uh the other guy that was that was there.
Um he uh ATF is involved whenever explosives are there.
If there isn't a terrorism nexus, if it's explosive, but there's a terrorism nexus, FBI takes it.
But if it's just explosives, ATF takes it because they pretty much are the main agency that tracks uh guns, explosives, all that stuff.
They regulate all that stuff federally.
Right.
Okay.
All right.
No, good questions.
Uh we got here Curtis Cole, Hoody Myron giving out the best content.
I appreciate that.
Uh Eddie T, great job covering this story so far.
Appreciate the work you and Angie do putting all this info together.
Yeah, I guess uh guys, that's why it took me a while because I had to like make sure I have all this stuff ready for y'all, man.
Because this is a lot of information, as you guys can see here.
Um we got here, what else?
Uh, can you do one on Jim Jones, aka Jonestown massacre of 900 people?
Uh, if we have time, that's more of a historical type thing.
Was tuning into whatever and realized I don't need to lose any more prints this weekend, so I'm here.
FNF the goats.
I appreciate that, man.
Uh Devin Von Bone goes, your live streams haven't been in my feed lately.
Oh, people are just saying that that would you would just go like shadows.
Shadow ban.
Yes, it's uh I was reading the chat, and some guy said that uh we apparently don't pop up on their subscribers list.
You know what?
I might change the channel name to Fed Reacts because I noticed, guys, that it's very difficult to find the channel.
It is so I might change it to Fed Reacts for you guys as much as I like FedE1811 because it's funny.
Play on the Reddit, but I might change their channel name to Fed Reacts because it'll be easier to find.
Or Fed it Reacts or Fed or something.
Well, yeah, we'll we'll figure it out.
But I think Fed Reacts is gonna be the easiest one.
Uh as much as I hate to name it after Reacts, but that's what's YouTube is.
Uh Laredo Police Department.
Shout out to you guys.
Uh hey, Myron, long time no see, but I hope your little friend didn't swim here for from her country.
Uh no, she didn't, my friend.
She's here legally, don't worry.
What?
Uh it's working.
It'll be border patrol if that would investigate that anyway.
Lareto police doesn't investigate uh um aliens uh alien crimes.
Uh CIA, thank you so much, bro.
Dumb the monk.
Hey G, not related to FedE, but I specialize in short form content and uh editing, and I could vastly improve the aesthetic and digestibility of the FNF clips on Instagram and/or YouTube.
If you're interested, you can DM me uh on IG or rate uh R J C E O, and I will provide some of my work samples for you.
Okay, you know what?
Do me a favor?
DMF FedEd.1811, because Angie uh manages that, and she could take a look.
Fed it.1811.
Uh we're gonna get more active on that one as well.
Yes, do we get a case breakdown of when YouTube started being haters?
Uh yeah, you know what, bro, they've been haters since whenever.
Uh L YouTube, WFNF crew keep out doing God's work.
Don't worry, guys.
On the playback, it's gonna um show, it's gonna show even though it was saying stream, whatever, unavailable.
So don't worry.
Reactive on social media while HSI.
No, I was not, guys.
I was not, and the reason for that is because you don't really want to be active on social media when you're a Fed.
And that's from Aiden McCara uh Karaher.
Uh and Venezuela Police Department.
Oi, Angie.
Uh okay, you got this, Angie.
What uh yeah, and you guys need to peleja ya no I repañers.
This is not well written in.
What does that mean?
They they said, like, what am I doing in the United States when I'm we don't have any papers and there they are no arepas like ours.
Which is true though.
The last part is true, but like, what?
Marico, ustedes son una mierda.
O sea, son la mierda más corrupta que existe.
¿Cómo voy a, no voy a estar en Venezuela?
Debe ser que me voy a devolver por las arepas.
No me voy a devolver por las arepas.
I don't know what's going on.
L you guys.
Okay.
She's going back and forth in Spanish.
I don't know what that means.
Yeah, I'm just saying that they're corrupt as F. So uh we read the Sparky note.
Uh yeah, I told you guys Ethereum and Bitcoin.
Big Mob, shout out to Big Bo.
I'm not a snitch, but if the police offer me Arepas, I'm giving all the names and addresses.
Hey, bro, you better not give them all the names and addresses.
God damn it.
You're on a diet.
Motherfucker.
Uh cool.
Um they are they are healthy arepas my own.
I need to to introduce you to them.
Oh, okay.
Shout out to Masada in the chat.
The boys are here.
Hey, bro, we know y'all were behind 9-11, bro.
We know what we know y'all were behind it.
God damn it.
Ryan Dawson uh bells are going crazy all over the place, god damn it.
Okay.
And cancelled.
Okay, I think we're done here, more than likely.
Uh think that's gonna be the end of the show right there before them boys end us.
Umgio, what's your thought?
Final thoughts on the case.
I mean, you didn't you kind of just came in cold and you saw everything as it was going down.
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, dude, it is a crazy case.
Um, I didn't watch the Myron told me to watch the documentary, but I was busy today and I couldn't watch it.
But it it seems like a very interesting documentary.
I've been watching some documentaries on Netflix.
There are some that are pretty good.
Myron doesn't like them because he thinks that they're too dramatic or whatever for Netflix, which is kind of true as well.
They are also very good ones on HBO.
Um, I'm trying to watch the ones that you guys have been requesting, like Aaron Hernandez case and the Atlanta child murders and all this stuff.
So, in case we we can do them like uh later on, you know, we'll be prepared.
Cool.
Um, all right.
So, guys, with that said, I am going to go ahead and uh we'll catch you guys.
I think we're good.
Are there any any other channels here or anything?
Or any other questions?
No, I think we're good, right?
Okay.
Uh guys, I hope you guys enjoyed that episode of FedEt Man.
Again, a lot of research.
Gave y'all two hours plus of content.
Um, don't forget to like the video, subscribe to the channel.
Um yes, fell out fed it.1811 on Instagram.
Yes.
Um, and yeah, man.
Love y'all, man.
We'll catch you guys on the next episode.
Peace.
Shout out to all the the American agencies in here saying beside love you guys.
I will catch you guys on the next episode of FedEx.
I'm a special agent with homelands investigations.
Okay, guys, HSI.
The cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug traffic.
No one else has these documents, by the way.
Here's what FedEx covers.
Dr. Lafredo confirmed lacerations due to stepping on glass murder investigation.
You don't know and he's positioning been on February 13, 2019.
You're facing counsel to meditation.
Raceteering and Rico conspiracy.
Young slime life here and after referred to as YSL the defense.
Uh 6-9.
And then this is Billy Seiko right here.
Now, when they first started, guys, 6 9 ran with I'm a fed.
I'm watching this music video.
You know, I'm Bobby Mahela.
Hey, this shit lit.
But at the same time, I'm pausing.
Oh, wait, who this?
Right?
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