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July 4, 2022 - MyronGainesX
01:43:44
Former Fed Explains WHY R. Kelly got 30 YEARS In Prison...
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And we are alive.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to FedEt.
Today we're gonna break down the R. Kelly case, and I'm joined with a returning friend, aka Miss Tits McGee.
She's back.
Let's get into it, guys.
We got a lot to talk about.
Let's do it.
Move over to the Zale.
Okay, guys.
I used to be a special agent on Latin investigation.
This is the arrest paperwork.
Okay.
So here is the booking.
Cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.
Those are like two crimes that I'm very good agent.
Very strong agent.
I did a lot of big cases.
I've done title three intercepts, which is basically listening to phones.
I've written hundreds of app Davids to arrest people.
I've done uh grand jury and testified a million times.
I've done big cases.
Uh I've done.
All right.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to uh Fed at 1811.
Today we're gonna be talking about the R. Kelly case.
So um, number one, quick announcements, guys.
I'm really happy that you guys are all here.
Uh we had a very busy week this week.
Um, tomorrow, we're not gonna be doing fresh and fit.
We're gonna have fresh and fit um on Tuesday, guys.
And the reason why we're gonna do it on Tuesday is because it's July 4th.
A lot of people are not gonna be home, they're gonna be out traveling, whatever may be.
They're gonna, you know, be doing barbecues and fireworks and everything.
So we're gonna go ahead and give y'all um fresh and fit money Monday on Tuesday.
Uh, we're probably gonna talk about entrepreneurship and then on, and then we're obviously gonna give you guys a nighttime show as well.
But um, and then I'm debating whether I'm gonna give you guys a second episode of FedEx.
We'll see.
Maybe, maybe I'll do one tomorrow.
Who knows?
I I got another case that I want to cover with uh a bank robbery that I think you guys would really enjoy, where I uh react to it.
It's an old documentary from back in the 90s, but it's really good stuff, and I think you guys are enjoying me breaking it down for y'all.
Um, so let's see here.
I think we had a super chat real quick.
Uh actually, no, no, Denise, you want to you want to introduce yourself to the people real quick?
Yes.
Hi, I'm Denise.
I've been here before.
Um better known as Tits McGee.
Uh uh nice to see everybody again.
Missed everyone.
Yeah, you uh you got a you got a reduction, didn't you?
Yes, I did get a breast reduction.
What were they before?
Triple D. Damn.
Triple 32 triple D, and now I'm 32C.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe maybe later on in the show, we'll see what happens, guys.
You can't.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll show you guys a little sunset.
Um so okay, we'll hit some of these chats.
We got Marquis 912.
You should do an episode on Deadly Use of Force Reviewing Law Enforcement Shooting Tennessee vs.
Garner and the Deadly Force Triangle.
Yeah, I could do that.
I don't I don't know if the the average viewer is gonna care for that, though, bro.
That's like a very you probably work in law enforcement asking a question like that.
Like the average person is gonna be like, what?
I don't give a fuck about this.
So um, let's see here.
And then we got, and thank you so much for the donation, my friend.
All right, uh, so I guess we'll uh what else?
Uh other announcements on the first time.
There's one more.
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Check it out.
Six more six.
He's he's referring to a song with Cassidy and uh and R. Kelly.
I remember that shit, man.
That shit was uh girl.
You wanna come to my hotel?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you know that shit back in the day.
Um, yeah, man.
I mean, R. Kelly had a lot of hits, man.
Like it's it's crazy how um things have changed and and everything else like that.
But um, all right, so I guess we'll get right into oh, and then sorry guys for uh starting kind of late.
I've started um running again.
Uh I was uh I lifted weights and then I actually went for a run.
Um uh I got some things that I'm training for that I can't disclose yet, but um, but yeah, you guys will see soon enough.
But yeah, I started running again, so I had to like, you know, I come in and you know when you go on a run, you fucking sweat for like a long ass time, and then you're just like, oh god.
So I just showered and I'm still sweating a bit here.
But uh yeah, it's good.
I'm still a good cardiovascular shape, so that makes me feel happy.
I'm slower than I used to be, but I'm gonna get back to like you know, six minute miles.
Um but anyway, uh with that said, let's see here.
So we're gonna go ahead, guys, and introduce you guys to who R. Kelly is.
You know, some of you guys may not know who this guy is.
He's probably before a lot of your guys' time.
So uh yeah.
So we got uh here, here he is.
Robert Sylvester Kelly, born January 8th, 1967, is an American singer, songwriter, record producer, and convicted sex offender.
As a recording artist, Kelly was credited with helping to redefine RB and hip hop, earning nicknames such as the King of RB, the King of Pop Soul, and the Pied Piper of RB, which is kind of funny because you know they would use the Pied Piper to refer to him getting girls that are young.
Uh he is known for his extensive disography of hits spanning three decades.
He sold over 75 million records worldwide, which made him the most successful male RB artist of the 90s and one of the world's best-selling music artists.
He won three Grammy Awards for his song I Believe I Can Fly.
He was written, he has written, produced, and remixed songs, singles, and albums for several artists, including Michael Jackson's You Are Not Alone, for which he was nominated for a Grammy.
Throughout his career, Kelly has been repeatedly accused of sexual abuse with young adults and minors.
He faced multiple civil suits and was indicted by criminal courts in Chicago, New York, Illinois, and Minnesota.
He repeatedly denied the charges in 1994.
He illegally married his underage protege, Aaliyah in 2002.
He was indicted, but eventually acquitted on 21 counts of making child pornography.
So I know you guys are probably wondering.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
Who's Aaliyah?
I got y'all ninjas right now.
This is Aaliyah, guys, just so you know.
Um okay, so Aaliyah here.
And can you hit control um plus on your end?
Uh Denise, just on the on the top screen.
So I can see it because I'm blind.
Uh where are you saying?
Oh, you know what?
No, I got it don't worry about it.
Okay, Aliah Dana Hutton, uh, or Hawton, uh, known uh monominously as Aaliyah, was an American singer, actress, dancer, and model.
She has been credited for helping to redefine contemporary RB hip hop and hip-hop, earning her the nickname as the princess of RB and Queen of Urban Pop.
Um, born in Brooklyn but raised in Detroit, she first gained recognition at the age of 10.
When she appeared on the television show Star Search and performed in concert alongside Gladys Knight at the age of 12, Aaliyah signed with Drive Records and her uncle Barry Hankerson's back uh Blackground Records.
And that's when she met R. Kelly, guys, when she was 12.
Hankerson introduced her to R. Kelly, who became her mentor as well as lead songwriter and producer of her debut album, Age ain't nothing but a number.
Oh man, that did not that aged perfectly, I guess, in a terrible way, right?
Like, holy shit.
Okay.
Um the album sold three million copies in the United States and was certified double platinum by the recording industry associates R IAA after allegations of an illegal marriage with R. Kelly, Aliyah ended her contract with Jive and signed with Atlantic Records.
And this guy is the marriage certificate right here that everyone is talking about.
Um I'm gonna share a screen with y'all real fast.
Bam.
Um you can see her Mare's license greetings uh to any person legally authorized to solemnize a marriage, September 6, 1994.
Robert S. Kelly of Chicago and the county of Cook and the state of Illinois of the age of 27 and Aaliyah D. Hawton of Chicago and the county of Cook and the age of Illinois of the age of 18 years old.
When in reality, guys, when this happened in 94, I think she was actually 15, if I'm not mistaken.
She was born uh 1979.
1979, my math sucks.
I think she was 15, but uh yeah, 1994 minus 1979.
Bear with me, guys.
I failed algebra a bunch of times 15.
I was right.
I was right there with you.
Thank you.
Um, you know, and Aaliyah, you know, is a legend also in the RB space, guys.
Um, but she passed away in 2001, and I remember it was an airplane crash.
I remember when the news broke uh back then.
I was 11 back then.
So um anyway, um, so anyway, let's go back to R. Kelly.
Uh where were we?
So yeah, this is the man that was the marriage certificate.
Not a good look for him getting married to her.
Okay.
So in January 2019, a lifetime television docuseries, Surviving R. Kelly, helped resurface the scandal under pressure from the Mute R. Kelly movement, RCA records terminated Kelly's contract with that label.
In 2019, several jurisdictions built criminal cases against Kelly, and grand jury's brought indictments in both federal and state courts.
And for some of you guys that are wondering, this is the this is the documentary that they're talking about.
Um right here, Surviving R. Kelly.
Um, oh, hold on, my bad.
Let me share a screen with y'all.
This is it right here, Surviving R. Kelly in this documentary series on the tangled history of allegations against musician, R. Kelly women give detailed accounts of sexual and mental abuse.
Now, I'm gonna reserve my thoughts on this documentary uh to the end, and we'll go over the facts.
Um, but there um there's there's there's some things here that we could definitely discuss when it comes to this documentary because I did watch some of it.
Uh Denise, you watched the whole thing, right?
What was your what was your take on it?
Well, my take on it is um because you watched it, you watched all the episodes, right?
Yeah, he he yes, he did um he did try to get with a lot of minors, but he Also was with a lot of women of age.
Um, it was just all about from what I've seen is uh all about how much he can control them.
So I feel that if he was able to control my conclusion is if he was able to control somebody and they were able to listen to him and do what he said.
Um that was his like girlfriend.
He always had more than one.
Um I think he owned like two houses.
Okay.
Uh and in each house he always had like girls in in their own room.
And apparently it's from what these women are saying, it sounds like he was really mean.
Okay.
Like he deprived them of food, deprived them of goddamn.
Yeah.
Yeah, I saw some of that.
I was like, holy shit.
And and he obviously denied all these allegations, guys that he was like denying girls of food and everything else like that, or telling them when they can piss and all the other stuff.
It's it's it's a little sensationalized.
We don't know uh if it's you know if it's 100%.
But there's a bunch of witnesses, man.
So it it looks like you know, when you have 40 plus witnesses all giving a very similar story, corroborating each other.
Uh, you know, it's very difficult to to defeat that, you know, being objective here.
Um, but I'll give my personal opinion at the end.
Okay, so um, so let's continue on.
Uh under pressure from okay, so in two in 2021, uh the United States attorney of the Eastern District of New York tried and won the first criminal conviction against Kelly for a sex offense with the jury finding Kelly guilty on a total of nine criminal counts, including violations of the man act and racketeering on June 29, 2022, Kelly was sentenced to 30 years in prison.
Kelly continues to challenge his New York conviction.
He actually sued them as well because they put him on uh suicide watch.
Um and he's suing them for doing that.
Um as of June 22, Kelly is scheduled to face another federal trial in a northern district of Illinois alongside his former employees.
The indictment alleges Kelly both produced child sexual abuse material and conspired with employees to corruptly win his 2008 acquittal.
The trial is scheduled to begin August 15th, 2022.
So R. Kelly.
Talk about a fall from grace, my friends.
Uh, you he went from one of the best RB.
I remember back when they used to call him the king of RB.
I remember when he had the hits, you know, ignition hotel in the night.
He dominated the 90s.
You know, I remember vividly um watching Space Jam as a kid.
Uh back in, you know, I think Space Jam, when did it come out?
Like 94, 95 or something like that.
Yeah.
Um still a classic.
And that was that was the the like lead soundtrack.
Let me see here.
Space Jam.
Uh 2020, the original 96.
Okay.
And I remember uh that being like one of the lead songs on there.
Um, and you know, and this is back when like movie soundtracks actually mattered.
But nowadays, like movie soundtracks, no one gives a fuck.
Like it's like, okay, you your song was featured in the movie.
Who gives a shit?
Yeah, because I remember they used to sell soundtrack albums.
You remember those days?
Yeah, no, and in McDonald's, they had the cups, everything with Space Job.
It was like really big deal.
Yeah, it was it was huge, you know what I mean?
And you get the little toy and all that other stuff.
Remember, got the Tasmanian Devil.
Because in 96, I was six, guys.
I was still living in New York City back then.
So yeah, I remember that was like the lead thing.
But yeah, you know, soundtracks nowadays don't don't mean shit.
You know, it used to be a thing back then, like having your song on a big movie as a soundtrack, but you know, times have changed, record record labels have changed, selling music has changed.
Um, you know, nowadays, like if you didn't go platinum back then with discs, they looked at you like you were a bum.
You know what I mean?
Like you weren't like a top-tier artist.
Nowadays, you can it's normal to like sell 10, 20, 30,000 units, and it's like wild to me.
So I mean, um the record the um the record industry has changed significantly.
Um but yeah, anyway, that's basic j for y'all.
So I've hit some of these chats real quick before we get into the the criminal case here.
And shout out to uh Denise helping me out, put them all all there.
Um we got um let's see here.
And guys, I appreciate all the support.
I really do, man.
Like I said, I do this channel mostly um for like your guys' education and entertainment.
So the the money definitely I appreciate it.
You don't have to donate a dollar, but every dollar that you do donate, I appreciate it.
And as you guys know, it goes right back into making the content better.
Because I do spend a significant amount of time researching these cases for you guys, going through the legal documents.
Hell, even Denise studied up and read some of the stuff for y'all so that she can um you know be somewhat prepared and not just standing sitting around like a bimbo.
Uh and she's she's not a bimbo.
But uh not anymore, not anymore.
Not anymore.
Was it from the breast reduction?
Is that what yeah?
Ever since that, ever since the breast reduction, I'm no longer.
Boobs went down, brain got bigger.
Yes.
Fair enough.
Yes.
That's good.
Uh what we know podcast five bucks.
If they go in and give R Kelly 30, they need to arrest the parents and people that work for him.
Can't tell me these females had easy access to him.
That's true.
That's very, very true because the parents did basically give their kids away to R. Kelly, you know, for the promise of or potential of their child being signed or making money and everything.
And then when things didn't work out, a lot of them came back and was like, oh, well, you know, we were abusing stuff.
And that that's that's the um that's the argument that his defense made, okay.
Um, but I it didn't it didn't work.
That uh they were able to convict him.
Uh what else do we got here?
Um, can you pull up some of those other things?
Yeah, let me pull up the other ones.
And guys, do me a quick favor while I pull these others because now we're gonna start getting into the court documents.
So please like the video.
Garage Man Teddy, uh, 10 bucks.
What's good, Myron?
You did a great breakdown of the Brianna Taylor case.
Are you following the police chase and shooting in Ohio?
Protest starting and conflicting accounts already happening.
I am not following it, but I will check it out.
Um, I've been focusing, guys, on um Young Dolph.
Uh, I got Christina helping out with that one.
Um, obviously, this R. Kelly one is what I've been spending time with this week.
Um, and then also that bank robbery case that I told y'all about.
And I'm also um working on the Buffalo Shooter guys.
Um, he just recently got indicted federally.
Um, the guy that the white supremacist dude that went in that shooting in that market.
Did you hear about that, Denise?
No, I didn't.
No, no.
Long story short, back in like late May, this guy fucking went on Twitch streaming, pulled out an AR-15, went into a supermarket and started shooting people.
Oh my gosh.
And he did it live on on stream.
Yeah, I have the actual video.
I probably won't be able to play it on YouTube.
But um, but I might I'll probably put put it for y'all on Patreon um and I'll react to it.
But it was really bad.
It looks like a like a video game almost, but it's like it's sick.
It's terrible.
I can't believe that really happened.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's literally recording himself on Twitch, like an idiot going in there and shooting them.
And he had like a big manifesto, Talking about um, you know, how the you know, we gotta be pure white people and all this other crazy shit.
He lost his mind, he was going through a psychological and he's only 18.
My man lost his fucking marbles, you know.
Oh, look at Pill Cosby.
He said uh R. Kelly's innocent.
Oh my god.
Look, the the fucking thing is blur.
Yo, you guys are fucking that's clever.
Yo, oh my god, bro.
Yo, chat is unfucking defeated, bro.
The fresh and fifth fam, you guys are fucking undefeated, man.
Oh, he's innocent with the fucking blurry Bill Cosby.
He's so bad.
Oh man, anything else here for uh Jets.
Uh Jonathan Hogu, five bucks.
R. Kelly's gonna be in the shower with a soap on a rope, and somebody's gonna sing out loud, move your body like a snake, Ma.
Move your body like a snake.
Yeah, bro.
He has so many hits, man.
So many hits, and he dominated the 90s, bro.
He was he was a fucking man, and even in the early 2000s, he was still killing it.
You know, um one of my favorite, one of my favorite joints from him was uh Fiesta with Jay-Z.
The best of both worlds.
That was a fantastic CD.
That album.
Uh, The Envy of All Mankind, five bucks.
You should do an episode on the vibes cartel case.
He had dance hall artists, and I think they found dead bodies in this house.
Yes, I will do it, even though I'm not familiar with Jamaican law, guys.
I'm gonna get uh Dolph face to help me out with that as you guys know she's a native Jamaican.
Uh, and we'll do that one for y'all.
But uh, yeah, I I don't know much about that case.
I know Fresh even told me to break that one down, but dude, uh I don't know Jamaican law, man.
So all I can go off of is what I'm gonna see.
But from what I understand, the Jamaican police are corrupt.
So, and from what I also know, he uh is living kind of like in a chill ass like prison.
He's not even like really in jail.
Oh wow, it's like when when they arrested um Pablo Escobar and they put him in fucking prison.
Yeah, uh, and he was basically uh it was like a resort.
It was like a resort, you're bringing hookers in and shit.
They were chilling, bro.
Yeah, they were letting him dig a hole in the floor.
Yeah, like all that shit.
So um, so okay, anybody else?
Any anyone else, uh, Denise or anything?
No, that's um one more.
Okay, pull up the last one and then we'll get into it.
Shout out to Myron Denise, let's play basketball together.
Oh, okay, I get I get it with the boobs.
I get it.
Oh, I was like, okay, that's random.
All right.
Um that was awkward, Michael, but who cares?
Who gives a shit?
Uh bye, Michael.
Um okay.
Oh no, wait.
I think he means Space Jam.
Oh, yeah, I think he means the reference to Space Jam.
Maybe he let me know.
Okay, our bad, bro.
That's on us for being stupid.
Okay.
Um, and then I still remember when uh Chappelle did the parody piss on you song.
Yes, I remember that too, bro.
I remember that too.
Uh covers apology song, it basically admits everything.
Oh, I probably can't play it, guys, because I'm gonna get in trouble for that shit.
Yeah, Um, it'll probably get hit with copyright.
And you know for a fact that his record label right now is probably watching anything that has to do with him with like a fucking hawk.
So, all right, cool.
So we're gonna go ahead, guys, and give you guys a quick little timeline of R. Kelly's sexual misconduct, okay?
And this song I think might be copyrighted.
So just to play it safe, I'm gonna play it without sound.
All right.
So here we are, okay.
Um, Grammy uh winner, Robert Kelly faces charges, okay, of illegal sexual activities with minors in multiple jurisdictions.
We talked about that, you know, New York, Illinois, um, Minnesota, or was it Michigan, Minnesota?
I think it was.
Um, so December 1994.
There was craziness with Aaliyah, right?
We showed you guys um the marriage license from August 1994.
You know, so he said that he married her when she was 18, when in reality she was 15, right?
Was in all the press surrounding the debut album that he had written and produced for her, which he called Age Ain't Nothing But a Number.
That's the name of the song.
Okay, I'll pause real quick, guys, because we don't want to get hit with the copyright.
These dudes are like hawks on here, but I'll play it again.
Just gotta play it, stop it, play.
That's how you get around the copyright shit.
You just gotta stop it, talk.
You know what I'm saying?
Pause for a second, maybe Denise make a comment.
What's your thoughts on this song?
I used to like this song a lot.
I didn't know anybody.
Okay.
Wait, in 94.
How old were you in 94?
No, I just like all later on.
I like I like all her songs.
Uh, the people are probably gonna wonder how old are you, Denise, by the way?
I'm 29.
There you go.
She has senior citizen, guys.
Yeah, it's she's uh she's almost elders.
Respect your elders.
94, man.
Times changed quite a bit right there.
Okay, Kelly had begun working with her when she was 12.
And then this infamous interview here on BET.
Either girlfriend or boyfriend or cousins.
No, we're not related at all.
No, we're not.
We're just very close.
He's my best friend.
No, in the whole water.
No such thing as guy and girl best friends, bro.
We all know that's Cap.
You guys, if you guys didn't watch the episode that we did the other day, we had a girl actually call call her um guy friend, and she asked him.
I told her to ask him this.
Hey, why didn't we ever like become anything?
And he's just basically like, oh, yeah, well, I thought that you didn't like me and all this other shit.
It's like, bro, it proves my point.
There's no such thing as platonic friends between men and women.
There's no fucking such thing, man.
I agree.
You know, it's bullshit.
I agree.
Um two months later, the marriage is annulled under pressure from her parents.
So bam.
Marriage got annulled.
Here's the document right here, guys.
Okay.
And then Kelly pays her anomaly 100 to never press charges.
Neither publicly confirmed the marriage before Aaliyah's untimely death in 2001.
Okay.
And then Kelly pays off Tiffany Hawkins, one of the people that testified against him, who alleges the singer engaged in a three-year sexual relationship with her in 1991.
When she was 15 and you was 24.
Fucking up, bro.
Fucking up, bro.
The End.
you you Kelly would often cruise high schools and the rock and roll McDonald's and the Evergreen Plaza shopping mall.
Yeah, so Kelly guys, just so you know, he went to Kenwood High School in Chicago, and there was a McDonald's in that area as well.
And he would always be there when he was starting to blow up in the 90s, um, recruiting girls, you know, uh that were high school age, which is very stupid, but yep.
Kelly once again settles out of court with former Epics Records intern, Tracy Sampson, another person that came forward as a witness.
You accused him of sexual beginning a sexual relationship with her when she was 17.
And then February 2002, as Kelly prepares to for perform at the winter Olympics, the Chicago uh Sun Times reports on a video sent to them, allegedly showing Kelly engaging in sex, urinating on an underage girl.
And that's where all the jokes come from with I'm gonna pee on you.
Okay, that's where it all comes from, guys.
Uh set okay, five bucks.
I ain't gonna lie, I'm a still step in the name of love.
Yo, y'all niggas.
Yo, that's another hit song that he had.
Step in the name of love.
It's like that song.
Step in the name of love.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, a lot.
You guys are like literally bringing me down memory lane right now.
Like just all these hit songs that he had, bro.
It's really sad that this shit had to happen and this dude couldn't fucking control himself and had to deal with young ass chicks.
Yo, real talk.
I'ma say this.
If he had just dealt with of age women, he probably wouldn't be in the shitty position he's in right now.
You know what I mean?
That's that's the uncomfortable truth.
This fucking guy, right, was over here dealing with chicks that were too goddamn young.
Like, what the fuck are you doing, bro?
What are you doing?
You know, if these women are were of age, probably a lot of this stuff he or or if he did get charged, it wouldn't be as bad as it is now.
But dude, you mess around with kids, you're you're you're cruising for a bruisin, man.
Fucking dummy.
Okay.
The girl's aunt identifies her niece saying she would have been 14 at the time.
Well, Kelly Kelly publicly denies he is the man in the video.
And then there was rumors also that Kelly wanted to get his brother to take responsibility and say that he was the guy in the video doing it.
And he was gonna pay him 50k.
Do you remember that in the documentary?
I remember that.
Yeah.
Because they do look fairly similar.
Um, so 2002, Kelly pays an undisclosed amount to Patrice Jones, who claims the singer impregnated her when she was 16, who claims to be the singer, forced her to have an abortion.
Well, can't do that now.
Shout out to Roe V Wade, right?
Getting overturned.
Yeah, can't do that shit no more, my friend.
You know, Kelly again settles out of court with a woman who accuses a singer of filming her during sex without her consent.
Guys, this is so big.
A lot of you guys, you know, will do some dumb shit where you're recording a chick when you're smashing or whatever.
Understand, guys, that that's a felony in a lot of states, okay?
You can't do that shit.
I get it.
We live in a Me Too era, these women are crazy.
They might try to accuse you of some bullshit.
It happens.
Just ask for permission.
Do you mind if I go if I record this fornication?
Don't say it like that.
But you get what I'm saying.
Do you mind if I uh hey, I want I'm gonna record whatever may be.
Let her know, bro.
And if she says no, then don't record.
Okay, don't get yourself in trouble for fucking voyeurism, guys.
It's a felony in a lot of states.
All right.
That means you were guilty.
Why'd you settle?
I had a lot of good things in my life going on musically and this.
So they're asking him at BAT, why did you settle?
It's not a good time to go to court over something like that.
So if you settle, it'd be better.
Okay, now being objective here, most lawsuits do end in settling.
So I don't know why he's saying that, trying to say, you know, people assume that you're guilty when you settle.
I mean, we know Kobe Bryant, for example, did not rape that girl in in Colorado, but he settled because he was that they didn't do the criminal case, they dropped the charges, but she still sued him civilly back in I think 04-05, and he settled.
He gave her an undisclosed amount of money.
Why?
Because you don't want to deal with the fucking headaches, man.
And then going to trial, right?
It's gonna cost sometimes it costs more money to go to trial, yeah than it does to just pay the settlement and be done with it.
So this is why people settle, man.
Most most civil cases do end in civil uh civil when so they don't end in litigation, they end in uh settlement.
Okay, so June 20th 2002.
Okay, he's indicted in Chicago on 21 counts of making child pornography.
R. Kelly, goddammit.
R. Kelly, goddammit.
See, I guess he took the advice to literally, yeah.
Let me record myself fucking banging kids.
You fuck it.
Guys, I mean, this is uh just common sense, but bro, guys, ask these girls for their fucking IDs, bro.
Like, literally ask these girls for the if they say they're 18, 19, 20, whatever, ask for their fucking IDs, guys.
Like, seriously, I don't give a fuck.
I've done it before, you know.
Yeah, I've I've messed with like an 18, 19 year old, and then they're like, I'm 18, 19, I'm of age.
I'm like, I don't give a fuck.
Let me see your ID.
I literally will look, I will look at that shit, make sure it's real, bro.
Do not put yourself in a shitty situation.
And the other thing too, you guys gotta understand a lot of states, right?
Like, let like you not knowing her age or her lying to you is not a defense.
Okay, one more time, man.
This shit can save your life.
Guys, if there's one thing you're taking to take away from this, you know, podcasts, and you know, besides, you know, uh, you know, our entertainment here of R. Kelly doing stupid shit in the 90s and early 2000s, there's one thing you could take away from this.
A lot of states, guys, they don't give a fuck if the girl lied to you.
They don't care if the family lied to you.
They don't care if you even looked at the ID and it was uh real or sorry, it was fake and you didn't know it was fake.
If the girl was underage, you you will not have a defense of saying I didn't know or she lied.
Okay?
Let that sink in.
So if she lies to you, bangs you, you find out after the fact that she was young, you can still be criminally charged, guys.
Okay.
Protect yourself.
Don't be an idiot.
When you deal with younger women, you need to ask for a goddamn ID.
Hell eyes Denise for hers.
And then I saw that she was born in 1942.
And I was like, fantastic.
Just kidding.
But real talk, guys.
You phoned me in a home.
Yeah, if I yeah, I picked her up at a f yeah.
And matter of fact, I met her at Dunkin' Donuts.
I saw that she was getting a senior discount, and I said, Bro, hook a brother up.
I need some black coffee too.
But real talk, guys, don't do what R. Kelly's doing here.
Deal with girls of age, I don't give a fuck.
And if they're too close to like 18 or whatever, or 19, 20, whatever the hell it is, ask for fucking ID.
Ask for it.
Okay.
Don't play with this shit.
Yeah, look, the urinating on other girls days later, Singer is arrested by Miami Police Department on the Chicago warrant.
Okay, and images of Kelly having sex with an undisclosed girl are found in his home.
Kelly is charged in Florida with 12 counts of child pornography, which are dropped when a judge rules there was insufficient evidence for the search.
So he got charged, guys, on this child pornography stuff, right?
Which I told you guys before, and he was acquitted.
They're gonna retry him August 15th for that in Chicago federally now.
Now that presents the potential issue of double jeopardy, which I'm gonna play here.
This attorney kind of breaks it down pretty well.
Now, what is double jeopardy, guys?
Double jeopardy is essentially you can't be um tried for the same crime twice.
So the state charged him with possession of child pornography, failed, he was acquitted.
Now the feds have pretty much taken the case, and now they're going to charge him with the same thing.
So his defense might be able to actually um present something here to get him off on these charges uh on a double jeopardy defense.
So let's go ahead and see um what this attorney has to say.
Reaction to this, are you surprised?
I'm not at all surprised.
Uh these were these were very heavy sentences.
But this is this has been a bad two days for the rich and famous Miss Maxwell yesterday and R. Kelly today are both in effect sentences.
Yes, Ghlaine Maxwell got 20 years, guys, and R. Kelly got 30 years.
Sentence to life in prison.
And uh this the size of uh R. Kelly's uh sentence, which exceeded the amount that the government was demanding, didn't really come as a surprise to me, given the fact that he unusually enough, he was convicted of uh violations of the racketeering statute, what we commonly call the RICO statute, which is and you guys, you guys have been watching me for a while now.
You pretty much know where Rico is.
Rico is an effective way to target criminal organizations and charge everyone under the same umbrella.
You get stiffer sentence sentencing, you get stiffer penalties, and um it's easier to charge.
And on top of that, a lot of the times um you you're able to beat the statute of limitations.
Why?
Because if you're able to show, because you guys can see a lot of these crimes happened 20, 30 years ago, but they're able to bring it back and attack and uh charge him because under racketeering, all they need to show is that there's a pattern of criminal activity occurring over a period of time, and then bam, they can get over the statute of limitations.
There is uh enormous penalties, so it was no surprise to me.
So, Paul, as you pointed out, prosecution uh prosecutors were asking for uh 25 years, the judge issued a higher sentence than that.
Why do you think that the prosecution didn't ask for a higher sentence, considering what you said, and how often does that happen that the judge exceeds the prosecution's recommendations?
Uh it it does happen fairly frequently.
You have to remember that judges sit there through the entire trial.
They are except for rule.
And just so you guys know, the reason why he got 30 years is because he didn't plead guilty.
He went to trial, guys.
When you go to trial, all right, what's gonna happen is the the government and I can tell you guys this from personal experience nobody else on YouTube could tell y'all this I've prepared for a federal criminal trial before okay and I'll break this case down for y'all but long story short I had a case one time where we caught this human smuggler he got caught uh smuggling a bunch of aliens into the United States and he put the aliens in in danger and he was facing quite a bit of time and this was like his third time getting arrested for this offense so he said fuck it I'm going to trial so he goes to trial right if he had
just pled guilty he would have got significantly less less time because he would have got a plea bargain and most cases guys especially in the federal system are pretty much settled through a plea bargain where the guy says all right I'll plead guilty I'll give a statement of my guilt and in exchange for the government not having to waste time and money preparing for trial I will get a lesser sentence this guy decided to go to trial.
Let me tell you guys what happens when you go to fucking trial as the case agent you essentially become the prosecutor's bitch.
All right I'm gonna say it I'll give fuck it is the truth once you go to trial it's your job to gather all the evidence gather all the witnesses corral everyone up get all the agents that were involved in search warrants whatever it may be you're gonna go and get them all ready and bring them to U.S. attorney's office have the attorney you know prep everyone up you know have all the documents ready help them with discover all that stuff okay you have to arm the prosecutor with everything they need to win the trial okay because when you go to trial
all right now you have to prove in front of a jury through due process and everything else like that that this person is not just guilty but they're they're guilty beyond a reasonable doubt which is a very high burden to prove okay so when you're there you're responsible for making sure that AUSA has everything they need because remember guys AUSAs don't really have arrest authority like that.
You know they're considered a law enforcement officer of the United States to a degree but they don't really go out and interview people and gather witnesses that's the agent's job so you have to go do that stuff.
So the fact that uh Kelly right R. Kelly went to trial they had to prepare 30 years worth of evidence against him and then on top of that he never admitted to any of the crimes he never gave an apology he denied everything so the government looks at it like okay you're not gonna admit guilt you're not gonna plea bargain you're gonna make us go through the process of trial and proving you wrong well guess what now you're gonna feel the full force of the U.S. government and you're going to go ahead and get as much time as possible that is
more than likely why the judge gave him more time okay than what the prosecutors wanted hope you guys enjoy that you ain't gonna get a breakdown like that anywhere else man ruling on objections to evidence they form their own impression impressions of the evidence of the witnesses they're staring at the defendants and stop the show shout out to my fucking guy dollar-cost crypto aka Miguel guys go check him out that's my
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Judges do have, even in the federal courts, much more so in the state courts, judges do have discretion to exceed what we call the sentencing guidelines.
And this particular judge is not known as a harsh sentencer, but she's a very attentive judge.
And she must have formed some very distinct reactions to this.
And the government had like 40 witnesses against them, guys.
It was pretty bad.
which is why it's very difficult to believe him you know Kelly's demeanor uh his constant substitution of lawyers I think that tended to cut against him and but again okay why would that cut against him because any time the defendant goes ahead and gets other attorneys or whatever, it pushes the entire judicial process back, guys.
Okay.
So he's delaying, right?
Due process.
And obviously, to keep a case going and prepare for trial and everything else like that, guys, it costs money.
You got to fly these witnesses like it's a logistical nightmare, guys, from the case agent perspective and the U.S. attorney's office perspective to have a case like this where you got to fly in 40 plus def um witnesses who are all over the fucking uh country, maybe the world.
You got to put them up in hotels, you got to pay for their food.
It's extremely labor intensive to do this.
Okay, you got to protect them, all this stuff.
So it is not easy to go to trial.
And then with someone like R. Kelly, where this is going to get a lot of media attention, it becomes an even bigger spectacle.
Okay.
So they got to pay um the Federal Protective Services quite a bit of money.
The Marshals are on high alert because when it you have a big case like this, it's very expensive to uh to fund it.
Again, the the the basic principle would be that she she, the judge in the Kelly case, was applying that driving force of the racketeering statute, which was not an ailment in Ms. Maxwell sentencing yesterday.
Well, Kelly.
Yes, and that is why for all you guys that are saying, yo, America's racist or whatever.
Why did Ghlain Maxwell get less time than R. Kelly?
The reason why she got less time, guys, is because with R. Kelly, they got him under Rico, guys.
When you go under Rico, you're is gonna be a very bad time for you, my friends.
This is the law.
The RICO law statute, guys, is the same law that's put pretty much the entire Locosa Nostra Mafia, blood gangs, um Casanova 6'9, uh the mafia, uh, a lot of these gangs that you guys are seeing getting like uh sweeping indictments on, these are all Rico cases.
Rico does not fuck around, they're extremely difficult to do from the case agent perspective to get them approved.
You got to get it approved through U.S. Department of Justice.
But once you get it approved, man, you're going to serve a lot of time if they convict you of it.
He has replaced his legal team since he was convicted.
He is now represented by the same attorney who helped get Bill Cosby's conviction overturned.
What does that suggest, Paul?
Yeah, Bill Cosby's attorney.
Well, this strategy seems to be all over the place.
If you look at the uh docket sheet, which is publicly available, Kelly has uh substituted attorneys with great frequency.
He has a right to do that.
Uh he does uh certainly if he's if he believes that by bringing in new lawyers at this late date, before just before the sentencing, he's uh throwing a Hail Mary pass because the record is already set.
The sentencing memoranda of both sides were already submitted, and the judge had probably already made her decision.
Certainly, Kelly is going to appeal.
Certainly, Ms. Maxwell will appeal.
Uh, but the the unfortunate part for both of them is that uh convictions in federal court are very infrequently reversed.
And speaking of federal court, Paul Kelly is true, very rare.
Feds don't lose Chicago for child pornography.
Okay, so this is the second case that I told you guys.
So he got he got convicted in New York City, right?
In Brooklyn, and this courthouse actually, guys, that's the courthouse in Brooklyn.
I've been there before.
I arrested someone one time.
Um I arrested him in in New York.
I arrested him in LaGuardia Airport.
And I'm gonna break this case down.
I got some footage for y'all too that I'll show you guys.
It was really cool.
But um, when you arrest him in LaGuardia Airport, that falls into the Eastern District of New York, and um I went ahead and took him to court.
We indicted him out of Miami, but he was in the guardia trying to flee the country.
We caught him at the airport right at the terminal.
And um, obviously, when you arrest him, you have to bring him in front of a judge within uh 24 to 72 hours.
Uh so I actually took him to this courthouse right here in Brooklyn.
It's right by the Brooklyn Bridge, it's a very nice area.
Um, and I and I presented him for in front of the judge to get his charges right to him.
So uh this is a nice courthouse here.
I've been here myself.
And obstruction charges there now.
Yo, and by the way, I'm looking at the goddamn thing.
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Guys, first of all, like the video.
Because no one's gonna give you guys insight like this on YouTube when it comes to breaking down federal cases.
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So now we're gonna go into the second case now in August, guys.
Uh that he's gonna go to trial for the child pornography charges in Chicago.
So another district indicted him for child pornography out there.
It's expected to start in August.
Is today's sentencing going to impact that trial at all?
Uh it's it's an open question to me for quite frankly, Tanya.
And I don't want to get overly technical.
Kelly was acquitted.
But the answer is no, it's can't affect him.
You cannot use other charges from another district against him as evidence.
So the answer to that is no.
But he's gonna get into uh what his defense team should do.
Remember, this guy's a defense attorney, so he just you know that my man just dodged that question like a fucking ninja.
By a state court on the charges for which he is now going to be tried in the federal court in Illinois.
So number one, I would have the issue as his lawyer of whether or not he was facing double jeopardy.
In fact, being tried, tried twice for the same offense.
And it it it may well be that given given the sentence here in New York against Kelly, uh the sent the proceeding in federal court in Illinois in Chicago, may well disappear.
Uh I'm not making that prediction, but that does often happen.
Interesting.
Back um on Yeah, I'm actually very um intrigued as to how they were able to put this case against him as well, knowing that he beat um the case in Illinois.
But there are rumors that he paid off jurors and all this other stuff.
So if that was the case, um they might be able to bring those charges against against him.
The um situation and stuff like that.
Does R. Kelly have a route for an appeal?
Do you see a basis for that given the facts of the case?
Well, he has he actually has uh I'll I'll put aside the the pornographic element of all of this, which is horrendous.
But as a technical matter, and I don't want to, you know, hack in the weeds, uh, I think he may have a stronger basis for an appeal of the racketeering conviction, because essential to establishing a vac the racketeering conviction are a few elements.
But in order to do that, you the you as the government have to show that the victim was damaged in his or her business or property.
And it seems to me from the start, uh a glaring omission here has been the lack of an impact.
Well, I don't doubt the I don't doubt the the suffering of these young women and now grown women.
This is an interesting point that he's about to bring up here, guys.
So let's uh let's brace ourselves for this one.
Also, I gotta stop it so they don't hit hit with any type of copyright from uh CBS.
CBS does a lot of things wrong, but when they interview people like this, this is when it can be a little bit better, because at least like they're bringing in someone that's like an expert and he can give an opinion.
Um, and this guy he's pretty accurate with what he's saying, you know, as defense attorney.
But uh uh significantly omitted from the proof was what were the money damages sustained by uh the victims.
And I don't uh they the Kelly may have a fairly strong argument along those lines, in which case he the the substance And what he means by that, guys is you need to be able to articulate damages that you had.
So, like for example, when they indicted the mafia, right?
And they were able to get them for loan sharking and uh, you know, extortion, all the other stuff, they were able to establish from witnesses and businesses and all these other entities, yo, the mafia ripped me off for $10,000 every month.
I had to pay them an extortion fees, or they were running gambling rackets where they were making this amount of money, Or they were loan sharking me this amount of money, which loan sharking is basically giving you a loan on an extremely high interest rate, you know, maybe 50%, lend you a thousand.
All right, motherfucker, if you don't bring my fucking money by tomorrow, you're gonna be sleeping with the fishes, 50% interest asshole, like some type of shit like that, right?
Um, so it's all tangible because it's related to money.
In this situation, it's a little bit more ambiguous because he's bringing girls in, banging them under the potential, you know, the potential that they'll be his girlfriend or maybe get a record deal or whatever.
It's it's extremely unclear where the damages are with them.
Obviously, there's emotional damage, right?
Of course, right?
As you would say, uh Chris's favorite sound effect.
Emotional damage.
But it's very difficult to be able to articulate that in a tangible fashion.
Okay, that does not mean that the victims are less credible.
That does not mean that the victims did not deal with um with trauma.
It's just very difficult to judge that from a um from the Rico perspective.
Because with the Rico charts, a lot of the times, you need you need to establish damages, and a lot of the time that comes from some type of monetary amount.
That's why it was so easy to go after the mafia, because when they were running a labor rackets and everything else like that, they were able to easily show that the mafia was making this amount of money, they're extorting this amount, they were loan sharking on this amount of interest, this amount of much money, blah, blah, blah, all that other stuff.
Because with the mafia, the money had to be made.
Once the money was made, it would be kicked up to the boss, underboss, all the way up to the top guy.
And it would, there was a money chain, right?
But here with this situation, it's not as clear-cut and defined.
For the government to have another try at establishing that critical element of loss of uh of monetary or financial loss.
All right, Paul Batista, if you could uh stand by for one moment.
We also want to bring in CBS News national correspondent record.
Okay, so we're gonna go ahead and read the DOJ press release here, guys.
Okay.
So R. Kelly convicted of all counts by a federal grand jury, um, by a federal jury in Brooklyn.
Just so you guys know, by the way, anytime that you are um looking up a federal, you want to get a check out a federal case, whatever it may be, always come to the US um DOJ.gov website.
As you guys can see, this is the official joint because it's justice.gov.
Okay, this is the U.S. attorney's website.
Each district, and this is the Eastern District of New York, which is in Brooklyn.
Okay, you got the Southern District of New York, which we've talked about them quite a bit, one of the most aggressive um judicial districts in the United States, and then you got the Eastern District of New York, which is in Brooklyn.
The Southern District in New York is in based in Manhattan.
All right.
Kelly found guilty of racketeering and multiple predicate acts, including illegal sex with uh minors, sex exploitation of minors, bribery, coercion, and forced labor.
Robert Sylvester Kelly, which I didn't know.
Actually, you know, before I read this thing, let's go ahead and hit some of these chats real fast.
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Are you going to do the human smuggling case from San Antonio?
I might do it.
Yes, I might do it.
Um matter of fact, uh, agent that I used to work with that was my supervisor.
He's actually gonna be involved in that case.
Um, so um, and as you guys know, I started my career in Laredo, Texas.
Pretty much when I was doing human those human smuggling cases in Laredo guys, the aliens almost always were going to San Antonio.
So I have a very deep, intimate knowledge of how human smuggling works in that area of the United States.
Um, and this is not the first time that I've seen a tractor trailer back in 2016 when I was in Laredo, Texas, we had another case where we had like 70 of them in a tractor trailer and a bunch of them died, even more of them died.
Okay.
This is why I have zero, you know, sympathy for people that come to United States and cry and complain that they can't get your dead, or sorry, that for US citizens that live here and can't get shit done.
All right, because I seen some of the worst stuff, but I'm not gonna go on a rant here on Fed.
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Let me see you do the love slide.
This fucking guy, bro.
Um, yes, I remember that as well, man.
Um, anything else here?
Uh Marquin 912, honey love makes sense now.
That what is the color of honey?
I'm confused by that uh comment.
I guess I guess she means like the P color.
I don't get it.
Uh I don't know.
Oh, okay.
That was like from a lot of people.
yeah, maybe.
Because we were talking about that earlier, and then that's when she wrote it.
I remember I had to sing the world's greatest Bar Kelly for my grade school graduation.
Really?
Oh shit.
Okay.
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Um, and just so you guys know, by the way, it was not the FBI that arrested R. Kelly.
It was actually Homeland Security Investigations, which is the agency that I used to work for.
Yes, they investigate sex trafficking as well, guys.
All right.
Um, this was not an FBI case.
I want to be extremely clear about that.
And you guys are gonna see that here in a second.
So let's go back to the to the press release.
Um from the DOJ.
Okay.
Uh was convicted today by uh our uh RB singer R. Kelly was convicted today by a federal grand jury in Brooklyn of all nine counts of superseding indictment charging him with racketeering predicated on criminal conduct, including sexual exploitation of children, forced labor, and the man act violations involving the coercion and transportation of women and girls in interstate commerce engaging uh to engage in sexual activity uh uh and illegal sexual activity.
The verdict followed six weeks of trial before United States District Judge Ann M. Donnelly.
So, guys, just so you guys know, for some of you guys that are wondering, yo, why did how were the feds able to pick this shit up?
The reason why, guys, is because the violations involving the coordinated transportation of women and girls in interstate commerce.
See this magic word here, guys?
Interstate commerce, right?
This is your worst nightmare as a criminal, right here.
This is what gives the feds jurisdiction to go ahead and take over these types of investigations.
Once he started like using the phone to get girls to come and hang out with them, or you know, using people to recruit the girls or whatever, and having them travel state lines and everything else like that, boom.
Now the feds can come in and uh do the investigation.
And we know when the feds come, it's gonna be a bad time for you, more than likely.
All right.
Um Jacqueline Cass uh Casulis, acting United States attorney for the Eastern District of New York.
So that's the top prosecutor, all right?
And Peter C. Fitzburg, special agent charge online security investigations New York announced the verdict.
See, so how do I remember, guys?
Uh, I always teach you guys this.
When you come over to the to the um to the main thing on USDOJ.gov and you're reading these articles, always look at like who it doesn't matter who the U.S. attorney is because like every jurisdiction has a U.S. attorney, but to figure out which agency actually did the investigation, it's the first person that makes the announcement.
So in this case, it was HSI New York that did the case.
These are the same guys that did the 6ix9ine case as well, HSI New York.
And then today's guilty verdict forever brands R. Kelly is a predator who used his fame and fortune to prey on the young, the vulnerable, and the voiceless for his own sexual gratification, stating uh stated acting U.S. attorney Casulis, a predator who used his inner circle to ensnare underage teenage girls and young women and men for decades in a sore did web of sexual abuse, exploitation, and degradation.
Yes, he did actually abuse a man as well, uh uh a boy, allegedly, guys.
Uh, according to the indictment and the trial.
The victims in this case, your voices were heard, and justice was finally served.
We hope that today's verdict brings some measure of comfort and disclosure to the victims.
Ms. Cusulos also thanked the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Illinois and the Cook County State Attorney's Office for their assurance assistance with the case.
Remember, guys, they had all the original documents.
As proven at trial for nearly three decades, Kelly was a leader of criminal enterprise of a criminal enterprise, the enterprise, consisting of himself and an entourage of individuals who served as managers, bodyguards, accountants, drivers, personal sentence, sent uh assistants, and runners for the defendant.
As a leader of the enterprise, Kelly used his fame to recruit women and girls to engage in illegal sexual activity with him.
Kelly identified these girls and women at concerts and then directed members of the enterprise to escort them backstage following his musical performances.
Kelly exchanged contact information with girls and women so that he and other members of the enterprise could arrange travel and lodging for them to visit Kelly and engage in the charged illegal sexual conduct.
See, this is where Kelly fucked up right here.
This is what all music artists do, by the way, guys.
Uh, fucking any big music artists that you know, this is what they do.
They don't go up to the girl themselves and talk to them.
They always get their member of their entourage to go and talk to the girl for them.
Hey, you want to come backstage?
You want to chill, whatever it may be.
This is to protect, you know, the artist from, you know, looking thirsty or anything like that.
Right.
Protect his image.
However, where Kelly fucked up here was he was doing this shit with underage fucking girls, man.
Now, a lot of these girls, he would promise the parents that he would go ahead and help them with their music career, make them famous, get them some exposure, whatever it is.
And that's where he fucked up.
If these were of age women, he would have been fine.
But he had to do it with young girls, which is why he's suffering the consequences that he's facing now.
The evidence at trial included the testimony of 45 government witnesses.
Gotcha, bitch.
Like, holy fuck.
Including more than 10 victims, five of whom are named in a superseding indictment.
Not to mention, guys, the government had a bunch of people that were on his staff that testified against him.
Okay, people that worked for him, his own family, his accountant.
All these people testified against Kelly that he was basically running an organization to conceal his criminal activity, which is why they were able to come at him for the racketeering and saying it was an enterprise.
You have anything on that, Denise?
No.
You don't want to add?
Oh, okay.
No, no.
I don't.
Okay.
Can you put some water in this bad boy for me?
Yeah.
So, text messages, video and audio recordings, photographs, phone and travel records, DNA evidence and expert witnesses.
Kelly issued rules that many of his sexual partners were required to follow, including that the women and girls were to call him daddy.
they were not permitted to leave their homes or to uh their rooms to eat or visit the bathroom without receiving his permission they were required to wear baggy clothes when not accompanying Kelly to an event and they were directed to keep their heads down and not look at or speak to other men.
Kelly also isolated the women and girls from their friends and family and made them dependent on him for their financial well-being.
He required the victims to engage in sex with him and others and recorded many of the sexual encounters.
Fucking holy shit.
Stupid.
So here are the charges, guys.
And what I'm going to do is I'm going to pull up this indictment for you guys real fast.
But we're going to read it from the DOJ thing because it outlines a lot clearer.
But I'm going to just for educational purposes, I'm going to show you guys what a federal indictment looks like.
this is out of the Eastern
United States district court eastern district of New York uh you know United States of America against um R. Kelly now the enterprise the defendant Robert Sylvester Kelly also known as R. Kelly and individuals who served as managers bodyguards drivers and personal assistants and runners for Kelly as well as members of Kelly's authorized comprise and enterprise now why the hell are they referring to R. Kelly's organization as an enterprise the reason why they're referring to as an enterprise guys is because this is critical for racketeering statutes remember they're not necessarily just charging him with sex trafficking they're charging him with sex trafficking
under the premise that it's under Rico okay the racketeering act okay the enterprise consisted of ongoing org of uh constitute an ongoing organization whose members function as a continuing unit for a common purpose of achieving the objectives of the enterprise okay the purpose of the enterprise were to promote our Kelly's music and that our Kelly brand and to recruit women and girls to engage in legal sexual activity with Kelly but promoting Kelly R. Kelly's music and the R. Kelly brand the members of the enterprise expected to receive financial opportunities
and personal benefits including increased power and status within the enterprise okay so like I told y'all before he promised he sold these girls a dream and in connection with the enterprise Kelly and other members of the enterprise traveled throughout the United States and abroad to perform at concert venues to promote the R. Kelly brand and to recruit women and girls to engage with in sexual activity with Kelly bam right there is how the feds gotcha bitch got him he was using right the girls and traveling interstate and doing all this extra shit and that's what gave the feds jurisdiction when Kelly attended and
performed at concerts and other events, Kelly and or members of the Enterprise on Kelly's behalf invited women and girls backstage and to other events following Kelly's live performances.
Let me enlarge this for you a little bit so you guys can see it better on your TV screens.
These women and girls were often offered wristbands that signified that they were authorized to attend an event.
There, Kelly relied upon members of the Enterprise to ensure that only those authorized to attend were allowed at the event and to manage the flow of women and girls who were directly interacting with Kelly.
When Kelly identified a woman or a girl who he wished to see again, He either gave his contact information to the woman or girl or obtained her contact information or relied upon members of the enterprise to do so following these events Kelly communicated with certain uh with certain of these women and girls by telephone including the use of traditional telephone calls text messages eye messages and face time as part of this communication Kelly often requested that the girls that the women girls provide him with photographs of themselves.
Okay.
Again, guys, when you use phones, text messages, FaceTime, all that stuff.
What does it do?
It triggers interstate commerce.
Gotcha, bitch.
Kelly and other members of the enterprise also arranged for the women and girls to travel to see Kelly on occasion, including at concerts throughout the United States and related events.
To facilitate their travel, Kelly directed the women and girls to contact a member of the enterprise who then arranged for travel for the women and girls.
When the women and girls arrived at the lodging, which was typically selected by a member of the enterprise, a member of the enterprise usually provided them with instructions.
In addition, members of the enterprise took steps to ensure that the women and girls did not interact with other women and girls whom Kelly planned to see.
So guys, let's also deal with this elephant in the room.
A big part of the reason why a lot of these people cooperated with the government was to not be prosecuted themselves for assisting R. Kelly in doing these criminal activities.
Okay.
So they cooperated with the government to avoid prosecution as well.
You know, we got to call a spade a fucking spade.
Members of the Enterprise then arranged for the women and girls to attend this concerts and position them such that Kelly could see them during his concerts.
Kelly prom uh and and you guys are wondering, well, why are they putting all this stuff in this indictment?
The reason, guys, is because they're establishing that it's an enterprise step one, and then step two, that the enterprise affects interstate commerce.
That's why they're talking about using phones.
That's why they're talking about travel.
That's why they're talking about him providing them lodging.
That's why they're talking about members of the enterprise giving them instructions.
All this, okay, creates a picture that we have a sophisticated criminal organization that is committing committing criminal activity while simultaneously, okay, affecting interstate commerce, which now gives the feds jurisdiction.
So the beginning part of this indictment is giving the feds venue.
Okay.
Um in addition, members of the enterprise took steps to ensure that the women and girls deny interact with other members women and girls whom Kelly planned to see.
Members of the enterprise then arranged for the women and girls to attend his concert and position them such that Kelly could see them during his concert.
Okay, also I want to mention this part right here.
This is very important, okay, guys, because the girls all gave very similar testimonies and stories, even though they don't necessarily know each other, which actually made Kelly look a lot more guilty.
Because if you got a bunch of girls from different places and they're all giving a very similar story, right?
Hey, I wasn't permitted to eat at this time, or he made me call him daddy, or he made me do this, or whatever.
And a bunch of girls are able to corroborate the same set of facts without knowing each other.
What does that do?
That, my friends, is a clue that more than likely your witnesses are telling the truth.
When I had a confidential informants, right?
You can't necessarily go off of a confidential informant's word alone.
You need to be able to corroborate it.
So what I would do, right?
When I was in witnesses, cooperating defendants, um, confidential informants, they're all the same because they're providing you information.
Okay.
However, when you're getting this information, you have to be able to corroborate it through other people.
So it would be common where I would interview a confidential informant, I would debrief him.
Then after I debrief him, I would talk with law enforcement officers, I would talk with other witnesses, I would talk with um uh the the criminal himself sometimes, etc.
And they would confirm certain things that the informant would say or other witnesses would say.
And what you do is you extrapolate, okay, the truth from all these separate interviews from separate people that don't necessarily know each other.
Okay.
That is how you build credibility in witnesses, informants, and cooperating defendants.
You never get the story just from them.
You get the story from multiple people, and if they're able to confirm certain facts, okay, that all of them experienced or saw themselves.
That adds another layer of credibility to that person's testimony.
Okay.
Hope you guys are enjoying this, man.
I'm giving y'all a lot of sauce.
Oh no, let me stop the show real quick.
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The reason why I want the likes up, guys, is because this video needs to get, you know, out there, all right?
So that more people could watch the uh watch the video, learn, understand federal law, understand how sex trafficking works, how racketeering works, etc.
Um, okay, and then they start going in facts here with how um, you know, how the girls weren't allowed to do certain things.
So means and methods of the enterprise.
So let's go ahead and go back to the US DOJ article.
I just want to show you guys the um how um how the feds were able to establish venue, okay.
And this is a well, I think this one is a 27-page indictment.
Yeah, 17 page.
Okay, and they superseded they they did several superseding indictments, guys, which basically means they charge him once and then they get more evidence, charge him again, give us and that's a superseding indictment where it overrides the one before because they got new charges.
And I think they did like three superseding indictments on this guy, okay.
Um racketeering on uh uh act one bribery.
Kelly bribed a state employee to create an identification card for Jane Doe number one, and then 15 years old, so that Kelly could marry Jane Doe number one because he believed she was pregnant and therefore the marriage can keep him out of jail.
Who are they talking about here, guys?
They're talking about let's see if the chat can get it.
Who are they talking about here, guys?
See if y'all were paying attention earlier.
We'll talk about.
And the winner is ASEC.
I think he was the first one to have it.
A little bunch of y'all saying Aaliyah.
Bam, there we go.
And we showed you guys the marriage certificate earlier, so um, yeah.
Racketeering acts two, seven, and ten, sexual exploitation of a child, Jane Doe.
And some of you guys are probably wondering what is bribery.
Bribery is essentially when you're paying someone to do something to overlook something or to commit criminal activity against their position.
Typically they're in a trusted position, and you're paying them to not do what they're supposed to do.
Okay, that's like a very layman's terms way of putting it for you guys.
Racketeering acts two, seven, and ten, sex exploitation of a child, Jane Doe number two, Jane Doe number four, and Jane Doe number five.
You guys are probably wondering why the fuck are they using Jane Doe's?
The reason why, guys, is because the girls were underage at the time of the criminal activity, and a lot of times to protect the victim's identity, they just call them Jane Doe, just like a John Doe.
Kelly, of course, Jane Doe number two, Jane Doe number four, Jane Doe number five to engage in sexual explicit conduct for the purpose of producing video recordings over the course of decades.
He made these recordings and other recordings of sexually explicit conduct using VHS video cameras, canon camp quarters, iPhones, and iPads.
Holy fuck, this guy, bro.
This fucking bruh.
My man was using VHS video cameras, them big ass joints.
Well, it was a long time ago.
God damn.
Uh racketeering acts 11 and 13, forced labor.
Kelly is a threat of physical harm and physical restraint to ensure that his victims, including Jane Doe number four, Jane No number five, and Jane Doe number six, perform sexually uh sexually at his command.
So these three witnesses right here, Jane 4, 5, and 6 are probably the government's best witnesses.
Um is probably what it looks like to me because I'm trying to noticing a trend here that a bunch that they're in a couple of the different counts.
Uh as a Jane Doe number four, he slapped her, choked her, and spit on her before demanding she give him oral sex.
As a Jane Doe number five, over a period of years he spanked her, viciously assaulted her, confined her for periods of days, and otherwise manipulated her to ensure that she would perform for him sexually, including with other women and a man.
As to Jane Doe number six, he forced her to give him oral sex.
When he did that, there was a gun within Kelly's reach.
Oh shit.
God damn.
Between May 2009 and January 2010, Kelly regularly spoke with Jane Doe number four over the telephone to arrange for Jane Doe number four to come to his residence in Olympia Fields for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, which was illegal because Jane Doe 4 was too young to consent to sex in Illinois.
Okay.
Uh similarly, between September 2015 and October 2015, Kelly transported Jane Doe number five, who was then 17 years old from New York City to Oakland, California for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, and she was too young to consent to sex in California.
So see how they got him here, guys?
Now, you guys are probably wondering, well, wait, hold on.
What do you what do you mean by this, Myron?
So, guys, other states have ages of consent when it comes To sex.
So I'll give you an example, right?
So in this case, we got Illinois and California, right?
So let's go ahead.
And also do this, guys, depending on the state that you're in, right?
My general rule of thumb is don't fuck with no girl that's under 18.
Don't fucking do it.
But there are states out there, right?
That have lower ages of consent.
Okay.
So age of consent, let's say California.
Okay.
18.
And then we're gonna go age of consent, Illinois.
17.
And age of consent, let's say another big state, Texas.
I think or 17 in Texas.
Yep.
And then I think some of the low one of the lowest ones is Kentucky, Kentucky, 16.
And then was it, or was it Kansas?
Which is fucking crazy to me.
Just guys, only fuck with 18 year olds, bro.
But yeah, some of these states have lower ages of consent.
And also keep in mind, also, just because it's the age of consent, guys, you also got to play into the fact that like um the distance between the man and the woman change, okay?
Like you can own that, you know, there's Romeo and Juliet laws, which basically allow for a certain amount of um years in between the two parties.
So just deal with girls that are 18, bro, and above.
Don't fucking risk it, guys.
Like, if you take one thing from this podcast, man, just fuck with girls that are 18 and above, bro.
Don't like, you know, can you potentially you know deal with a girl that's younger if your state has a lower age of consent and then you're young enough to, you know, maybe fall within the Romeo and Julia guidelines.
Yes.
But guys, don't fucking do it, bro.
Age difference is real, okay?
It ain't worth it, right?
Um racketeering acts 8, 13, and 14 man act violations, Jane O. So, okay, let's look at the man act right real quick, okay.
Guys, the man act, also known as the white slave tra uh traffic act of 1910, is a federal law that criminalizes transportation of any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery or for any other immoral purpose.
So it was passed in uh June 1910 and named after Illinois Congressman James R. Mann invoked in the Commerce Clause to felonize the use of interstate or foreign commerce to transport women for immoral purposes.
The act was aimed at prostitution immorality and human trafficking.
Congress appointed a commission of in 1907 to investigate into the problem of immigrant prostitutes.
It was alleged that immigrant women were brought to America for sexual slavery and immigrant women lured American girls into prostitution or white slavery.
The committees believed that no girl would enter prostitution unless drugged or held captive.
This led to public outrage, which eventually resulted in the enactment of the man act.
So here's the thing.
Now, does every pimp get charged with the man act guys?
No, because a lot of the times they're able to establish that the girls wanted to be prostitutes, which is why human trafficking is very difficult to prove, guys.
It actually is.
However, it's easy to prove human trafficking if the girl is underage, okay, which is what the government was able to do in R. Kelly's case.
If these girls were of age, he probably wouldn't have been getting hit with his heart of the charge that he's getting hit now.
But since he was a fucking dummy and want to deal with girls that were young and you know, be on this risky type shit, that's why they were able to hit him with the man act because the girls can't consent, guys.
Even if they consented at the time, or they didn't feel like they were being prostitutes, or maybe they didn't feel like they were being um used or whatever.
They're not old enough to consent.
So bam, now the man act pretty much attaches itself to the criminal activity automatically.
However, if you're like a pimp and you got like 20 girls that work underneath you, and they're all 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, whatever the hell it is, right?
And you're pimping them out, literally pemming them out.
However, the girls are all of age and they're like, hey, listen, I know my pimp, you know, beats me and all this other shit, and you know, what whatever, but I wanted to be a prostitute.
Uh, you know, I I it's not forced, which a lot of the time is the case with these prostitution rings.
The girls aren't forced, they want to be prostitutes.
You can't necessarily hit them with the man act, okay?
It's much more difficult to prove.
Can you still hit them with it?
Potentially, but it's more difficult to prove.
That's why the man act works so well with underage girls because they can't consent.
Since they can't consent, it don't matter if if they if they personally themselves consented.
You can't legally consent because you're not old enough, all right.
So age ain't nothing but a number.
No, age matters, guys.
All right, age definitely matters.
Uh racketeering uh acts eight, thirteen, and fourteen man act violations.
In April 2015, Kelly arranged for Jane Doe number five to fly from her home in Orlando, Florida to Los Angeles, California for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, which was illegal because Kelly knew he had an incurable sexually transmitted disease and did not inform Jane Doe number five about the SCD prior to engaging in sexual intercourse with her.
Holy bro.
In May of 2017 and again in February of 2018, Kelly arranged for Jane Doe number six to fly from her home in San Antonio, Texas, to LaGuardia Airport in Queens, New York, for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, which again was illegal because Kelly failed to disclose that he had an incurable SCD and obtained J Doe number six's consent to engage in sexual intercourse under those circumstances.
Thank you.
you So yes, um he got he ended up getting 30 years for this guys.
So here is his judgment, which we're gonna go over real quick with y'all.
So a judgment, guys, is basically when the government uh hands down your charge against you.
Um before I pull up the judgment, um, could we go ahead and get um Denise?
Can we go ahead and get um the chats?
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Uh Nick has song goes uh 10 bucks.
Uh, even if the girl is old enough to consent, they could still charge you with corruption of a minor.
Uh I don't know.
I've not I'm not aware of a federal statute for that, my friend.
Might be a state thing.
But I'm not um, hey, you could be right.
I I don't know.
Um, let's see here.
Any other anything else?
I think that was it.
That was it.
Okay.
Guys like the video.
Uh all right.
So here's the judgment here, guys, that I have right now for our Kelly.
And if you guys want me to show you how I found these documents, give me a one in the chat if you guys want me to teach you how to use Pacer again.
I've done it before in the past.
Um, but give me a one in the chat if you want me to show you guys.
If no, uh two in the chat if you guys don't want me to.
If you if you already know.
If you already know, then no big deal.
Um, before I read this this uh this uh thing.
Uh one one.
Okay, one.
So why did R. Kelly get 30 years?
Good question.
Uh, the reason why is because they got him under racketeering and he took it to trial.
That is why he did more time.
Someone goes, Pearl uh Perez ML official Cleave Age.
Appreciate that.
Okay, um, it looks like mostly ones.
Okay, let me should go over this judgment first, and I'll show you guys how I came to find this judgment.
All right.
So here's the judgment, guys.
And this is um after he was convicted by um this is after he was convicted by uh by the by the um uh the jury.
So here's what he was convicted of racketeering, okay.
18 USC 1962 C in 1963, which if you guys have been watching this podcast, you guys already are familiar with these statutes.
Then they also got him with Man Act Transportation Joe Jane Doe 5, which is one of them, okay, which happened on October 30th, 2015.
Um, and that was 18 USC 242.
All right, and here's the judge right here signing the judgments, all right.
Um, and then these are all the charges that they hit him, and additional counts of conviction, man act coercion and enticement, uh man act coercion of a minor, uh, man act transportation of a minor, man act transportation, Jane Doe Six, Man Act coercion and enticement, man act transportation, man, man act uh coercion enticement.
If you guys look here, um, these were all fairly recent these charges.
So, why were they able to bring up all these old things from the 90s?
Well, like I told you guys before, they were able to establish that there was a pattern of racketeering activity for 30 Years.
Okay, so that's how they're able to get around statute limitations and use uh older shit to show a pattern of activity.
So um the defendant is hereby committed to the custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons to be imprisoned for a total term of 360 months on count one, 10 years on counts two, six, and eight, twenty years, and on counts three, four, five, seven, and nine and nine, all counts to run concurrently, okay.
Which luckily for him, it's uh concurrently, which means they all run at the same time.
Otherwise, he would have had to have way more time.
So these are the standards and conditions of supervision, okay?
Because you can get five years, special conditions of supervision, criminal monetary penalties.
He's got to pay 100,000 in restitution or a fine, sorry, 100,000 in fines, okay.
Schedule of payments.
Uh he owes $900 immediately.
Okay, and this is his judgment, gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen.
So you guys are probably wondering, how did I come across and find these documents?
Well, so I'm gonna go ahead and show you guys how to do this.
So you're gonna go into Google, right?
And I want you guys to make life easier, you're gonna go Eastern District, right?
So the important thing is to figure out what district the guy's being charged in, right?
Or the person that you're looking to look up, Eastern District of New York, AC.
Then you're gonna come here, and you're gonna go in, right?
Then you're gonna click log into CME C F. Bam, and I'm in.
Normally they're gonna ask you to log in, guys, as far as like your username and password, but I'm already logged in.
So I'm gonna go ahead, that which we skip a step, but you guys get it.
Make your username and password.
Oh, no, see, it's asking me to log in again.
Now I'm in, right?
You're gonna hit query.
Once you hit query, we're gonna go ahead and type in Kelly.
Last name, first name, Robert.
Okay, we know the middle name here.
It's Sylvester, but just for and uh easy purposes, we're gonna do it all first name and last name.
Now, this is a fairly common name.
So look at all the people that come back, but we know his middle name.
So here we go.
Kelly Robert Sylvester, defendant.
Oh, looks like a plaintiff.
Oh, you know what?
This is I think that when he uh he's suing the DOC, I think.
Let's look at this one.
Who's he's yeah, yeah.
This is uh look, they just filed this July 1st.
Um this R. Kelly is suing the warden, Herberto H. Tell us, um, and they're basically suing them.
And this is the complaint that they because he said that they got him on suicide watch.
So this case just literally got filed.
This is what I was telling you earlier.
And you can find um civil lawsuits in here too, but let's go back to the criminal case so we don't like deviate too much from what we're doing, right?
So you're gonna go.
Here he is as a defendant.
So here's him as a plaintiff, so you know that's a civil case.
Here he is as a defendant.
Click it, and then bam USA versus Kelly.
So they got two different ones here.
It doesn't matter, guys.
It's gonna say, um, so just so you know, first it goes one, 19, that's the that's this um year, CR means criminal.
This is the actual case number, and then AMD, which probably is gonna because uh Eastern District in New York, that's like the the identifier, right?
Or no, sorry, AMD is the um the judge.
That's the judge's name.
There's uh um, which is Ann McDonnell.
Uh so you're gonna go ahead and click, it doesn't matter, either one works, USA versus Kelly, open it up, and then you're gonna hit docket report, okay?
Then once you go into docket report, you're gonna hit run report here, and then you're just gonna go as initially requested.
Since this was a big case, they're not sure if you want to go for the past week or everything.
I'm just gonna go off everything because they charge you like 10 cents per page.
That's why they're asking you that.
You know, I don't give a fuck, though.
You know, we we invest back in a business, okay.
So as you guys can see, and then they show you the defendant, bam, here he is, R. Kelly.
Here's his legal team, right?
All of them.
He had a big legal time team, okay.
And then here's his charges.
And since he got actually uh convicted in trial, they actually put here what the disposition is 360 uh months, right?
And all these charges, 360 months, but he got lucky because they're all gonna run concurrently, which means they're all gonna run at the same time versus consecutively, that would suck because you would have to do 30 years and another 30 years and another 30 years.
Okay.
So he's gonna be out when he's in his 80s, guys.
I think R. Kelly's around 55, 56.
So here you go.
Here's a sealed indictment.
Here's another superseding indictment.
Then you can look through all these court documents.
Okay, and this is what I go through every time for you guys.
I read through all this stuff for y'all before we prepare for a case.
Go through all this, okay?
And then that was a judgment that I pulled for you guys earlier, the very one I just read.
You click it, right?
Just to just so you we can go all the way here and show you guys how this works.
You're gonna hit here, view document, and then bam, it comes right up.
Cool.
So that is how my friends, you find stuff on PACER.
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All right.
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I'll be happy.
All right.
So where are we at here?
Um, so we talked about that.
And then there was one something else I was gonna uh show you guys.
So I'll stop the screen share for a sec.
Give me ones in the chat if you guys are enjoying this breakdown.
Give me a two in the chat if you guys, if you guys don't like it.
One's in the chat if you guys are having a good time.
Two's in the chat is trash, and you hate me.
And this shit was garbage.
I could take the constructive criticism.
Don't worry, I promise.
I really I really do be look looking at uh a lot of the criticisms, man.
It's all dude, you gotta you gotta get out your feelings sometimes and look at the stuff for what it is, and you know, it makes you better.
I take a lot of the criticisms, and I'm like, you know what I'm gonna make the content better.
Uh where the hell are the windows that I had.
Nope.
A lot of ones.
Thank you guys so much.
I appreciate um you guys supporting.
Okay, so I know some of you guys probably want it want that interview uh that he did with Gail Knight on I think TBS.
So let's go ahead and pull this bad boy up real quick for y'all.
Um Kelly interview.
Okay.
And we'll just get the the craziest parts.
And then I'm going to go ahead and share screen with y'all.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I am surprised that you agreed to do it.
Why are you sitting down with us today?
I'm very tired of all of the uh lies.
And I ain't gonna lie, it is crazy that he went and did an interview with them in the middle of a criminal case.
This I don't know who his publicist or his defense attorney is.
This was not a good move, uh, in my opinion.
I you you don't want to say anything, but I get it.
He hadn't been saying he hadn't said anything for decades when these accusations came out.
So to his credit, guys, this is the first time, okay, that he actually spoke on these charges to the mainstream media.
I've been hearing things and you know, and seeing things on the blogs, and you know, I'm just I'm just tired.
What are the lies that you're hearing that disturb you most?
Oh my god.
Um so he's gonna go over the things that pissed him off the most when it comes to what the girls were accusing.
All right, and this interview was back in March of 2019.
So he was in the middle of like pretty much or right before he got entr uh indicted and arrested.
All of them.
Um that little girl's trapped in the basement, helicopters over my house.
Um, trying to um rescue someone that doesn't need rescuing because they're not in my house.
Handcuffing people, starving people.
I have a harem.
Uh, what you call it?
Um a cult.
I don't even really know what a code is, but uh come on, R. Kelly.
You know what a cult is, my man.
Come on, bro.
You're you're uh you're uh one of the best RB artists of all time, bro.
You got you know what a cult is because there's a bunch of people that support R. Kelly, even through all the allegations, you know.
And hey, hey, man, you you're free to support what you want.
You know, uh he the guy made it's un in this undisputed that his music um, you know, touched a lot of people, and he he's a fantastic musician, and he's a musical genius, but fucking making dumbass decisions when it comes to women.
I know I don't have one, you know.
Have you done anything that you regret?
Have you done anything wrong?
Lots of things wrong when it comes to women that I apologize, but I apologize in those relationships.
If the time I was in the relationships, have you broken any laws when it comes to women?
Well, the tough questions are coming now.
Uh super chat real quick, 10 bucks.
Uh, damn, even sounds like a creepy kitty find kitty f fiddler.
Fucking cloud.
Absolutely not.
The six-part series interviewed.
And I love the fucking little picture of like me pointing at the camera and say, yo, those super charges, real quick.
Oh, you guys are hilarious.
50 people.
Family members, your former tour manager, numerous women who all claim that you abuse them.
Were you saying everybody in that documentary was not telling the truth about you?
Everybody?
If if if you really look at that documentary, which I'm sure you have.
W for Tits McGee.
Yeah.
Everybody said something bad about me.
Nobody said nothing good.
They was describing Lucifer.
I'm not Lucifer.
I'm a man.
I make mistakes.
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Imagine being flewed out by a celebrity just to get burnt.
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This fucking guy.
Ha ha ha.
Thanks.
But I'm not a devil.
And by no means am I a monster?
I'm gonna name the names.
Andrea Kelly, your ex-wife, Kitty Jones, Lisa Van Allen, Lizette Martinez, Jeron De Pace, Faith Rogers, Asante McGee.
You're saying everything they said in that documentary about you is not uh the rat who plays the dang uh again, Ron Pa.
Evening, uh past my SI, when are you dropping the hiring process video?
Second chat, by the way.
Dude, you're on your way, my friend.
You don't even need the video.
Keep going.
You're good.
You're gonna be fine.
Okay.
Not true.
They are lying on me.
Why would these women say the same thing about you that you are controlling, that you were abusive, that you tell women when to eat, when to go to the bathroom, when they can sleep, where they can dress.
Why would all these women tell these different stories about you if they were not true?
And they don't know each other.
That's a very good question, which I established with you guys before.
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I don't see nothing wrong with a little like of this video.
Yes, like the fucking video, man.
You guys are killing me with the fucking songs and uh and making it funny.
You guys are fucking killing me here.
That defies logic to me.
Right, right.
Until you hear the explanation.
You can start a rumor on a guy like me or a celebrity just like that.
All you have to do is push a button on your phone and say, so and so did this to me.
R. Kelly did this to me.
And if you get any traction from that, if you if you're able to write a book from that, if you're able to get uh a reality show, then any girl that I had a relationship in the past that I it just didn't work out, she can come and say the same exact thing.
Are you blaming this on social media?
This is true.
He has a point there.
This this happens all the time.
You know, girls will make accusations, you know, potentially for um make money, get certain opportunities given to them, whatever it may be.
This is true.
Um, but again, these girls were underage, Robert.
What the fuck are you doing, man?
You know what I mean?
It's pretty much at this point undisputed that the women were underage when they were fucking with you, bro.
And that's the problem here.
You know, 90% of the problems here would have probably been avoided if these women were of age.
Social media.
I'm talking about the power of social media.
Have you ever had sex with anyone under the age of seventeen?
No.
Never.
No.
I have to tell you.
Stop the cap.
It's so hard to believe that based on all that we read.
I'm gonna tell you something, if there's one you're gonna do that.
What did women said about you?
What women said about me?
What women so nobody's allowed to be mad at me and be scorned and loud me.
So they're lying on you.
That's your explanation.
They're lying on you.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You feel that people Yeah, so yeah.
Jay with the snub, 10 bucks, Myron.
What's your favorite R. Kelly song, or did you ever have one?
Damn.
Uh that's a good question.
Um, let me get back to you.
I'm gonna think of all the he made so many hits, man.
Can you please do a Draco the ruler case?
Shout out to you, Myron.
Uh, and that's from uh Don X uh Ven.
Uh yes, I can't cover that.
I I need to get some stuff together for it.
Uh, they haven't caught the killers yet, if I'm not mistaken.
I'm not sure.
Uh shout out to my guy, Trap Lord Ross.
He did a whole breakdown on it.
I'm gonna go check it out and uh get back to you guys on that one.
Jay with the snub, Myron.
What's your favorite R Kelly song?
Okay, I'll get back to you on that one.
Uh we have uh 24.
My mind is telling me no, but my body, my body is telling me like the fucking video, guys.
I love that specially for these creative ass super chats.
Shout out to y'all, man.
Uh, we got Stanley Frederick, five bucks.
Hey, Myron, can you do the Deshaun Watson case because the NFL trying to suspend him over an allegation that he didn't get found guilty of?
Well, here's the thing you guys gotta remember, bro.
The NFL, college campuses, all these you know, Private entities, they reserve the right to cancel you for anything, bro.
This is a clown world that we're in.
Even if you get acquitted in a court of law, they can still come after you on some other, you know, miscellaneous technicality stuff, man.
So that's the world that we're in.
NBA DeCali.
His real downfall is he couldn't keep it on the down low because nobody had to know.
Yo, you guys.
Looks like we got a lot of R. Kelly fans in the house that like listen to this music, bro.
Uh Bobby de uh La Pose pose.
I would like you to do the Central Park 5 case and get your perspective on Eric Reynolds, one of the arresting officers in that case.
Uh I am aware of the Central Park 5 case.
Uh, I did watch a the Netflix show on that.
Um, if I have time, I will.
Um that one's old though.
Uh, five stars sport betting, uh, five bucks from Canada Super Sticker.
Thank you so much.
And then anything else here.
Uh Michael Mistro saying, hit the damn like button.
Yeah, guys, please like the video, man.
Well, maligned your character.
Assassinated.
I have been buried alive.
But I'm alive.
So I think the point you're making is, and and correct me if I'm wrong, that you have never held anybody against their will.
I don't need to.
Uh go pull up that chat again.
Why would I?
Well, I'm how stupid would never help anybody R. Kelly with all I've been through in my way, way past to hold somebody, let alone four, five.
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He loves them golden showers, but now he's getting the god the golden stream of justice.
You fucking guys, bro.
Ha ha!
Ah, six fifty, you say it.
What how stupid would I be to do that?
I didn't say you're stupid, guys.
I didn't this camera on me.
Yes, that's stupid.
Stupid common sense.
Don't forget the blocks.
Forget how you feel about me.
Hate me if you want to, love me if you want, but just use your common sense.
How stupid would it be for me to with my crazy past and what I've been through?
Oh, right now I just think I need to be a monster and hold girls against their wheel, chain them up in my basement, and and don't let them eat and don't let them out unless they need some shoes down the street from the uncle.
What I don't get that what the fuck?
I think that's one of the that's one of the um uh witnesses said that.
Like he let me go to get shoes for my uncle.
Oh, okay.
That's why he's there.
I remember something.
You remember, yeah.
Yeah, stop it.
Y'all quit playing.
Quit playing.
I didn't do this stuff.
This is not me.
Yeah, I'm fighting for my life.
Y'all killing me with this.
I gotta 30 years of my Robert.
Y'all trying to kill me.
You killing me, man.
This is not about music.
I'm trying to have a relationship with my kids, and I can't do it.
I thought he was gonna sing right there.
I'll try to have a relationship with my kids, and I can't do it.
And I thought I was gonna like just bust it till I hit the start singing.
I was like, oh shit.
With his long songs, yeah.
Just don't want to believe the truth.
You don't want to believe it.
At this point, we briefly pause the interview to give Kelly a moment.
Even this man got a smile off.
Look at this nigga face, bro.
Like, what the hell?
Let's see if we can get this at better quality here.
Oh, god damn it.
And guys, the reason why I'm using this video and not like the original is because I don't want to get hit with copyright.
You can see that the person that took the video, like cut it off a little bit.
And um, and you know, hopefully we don't get hit with a copyright here.
So his publicist help calm him down.
AJ, nothing but a number and a cellate, nothing but a room.
This fucking guy, bro.
Ha ha!
Used to be ten dollars.
I hope this camera keeps Big Mo in the fucking house.
Don't the monk go five bucks says seems like you're ready.
Girl, are you ready to go all the way to liking a damn video?
Hey, Moby listened to that RB, man.
Every time if I like leave the studio to go to the gym or whatever, and like Moe's like setting up the studio, I come in and he'll have some fucking weird ass RB plan, man.
Some R. Kelly, this type of shit.
Like, bro, come on, man.
What are you doing in here by yourself?
Like, you know, when you ever seen the movie The Hangover?
Yeah.
And like they walk in and Mike Tyson is playing fucking um Phil Collins in the night.
Yeah, uh, yeah.
And he's like, hey yo, this is the best part.
And then you know that fucking punching.
And then boom, they hit the drum set, like put a tootum to dum.
and then he just like fucking punches the guy.
That's Mo in the fucking studio.
He'll just be like, you know, play it, play some shit in here, just grooving, you know, setting up the mics, all that shit.
Uh we got 20 bucks from uh can you click that one again?
Yeah, fair use, Karan.
Thank you so much.
Shout to Kran.
Cool.
Uh Myron, what are the chances of that all these accusations are capping he's being blackmailed?
Okay.
So I guess I'll give my opinion on it since we're kind of uh running towards the end here.
So his biggest fuck up, guys, again, was dealing with underage girls.
If these were women of age, he probably wouldn't be having the severity of these charges, okay?
That's number one.
Number two, um, pretty much his defense was able to articulate that yo, a lot of these um girls that came out, whatever, their parents gave them to him, they knew what was going on, they allowed it to happen for promises of uh, you know, money or fame or fortune or whatever it is.
Everybody in this thing is fucked up.
The parents are stupid, R. Kelly's stupid, the girls are stupid.
Everybody was on some fuckery in this case.
Um, do I think that they lied on him?
To a degree, yes.
Do I think that they sensationalized it for the purpose of Netflix and getting some drama out there?
Yes.
But do I think that uh what R. Kelly did um happened?
Or or at least uh to the point where the court found him guilty.
I think he did, he was out here.
Yes.
I I think that he was fucking underage girls and doing a bunch of stupid shit that he shouldn't have done.
Is it sensationalized to the level that Netflix made it where they're like, yo, he was chaining girls and not letting them eat or whatever?
We don't necessarily know.
I don't think it was to that crazy level, because it does sound a little crazy that a famous RB star would be chaining up girls and all this other shit without you know the authorities like taking action back then, right?
But uh, but for him to say, yo, they're lying on me 100%.
Come on, bruh.
They're not lying on you 100%.
They might be sensationalizing things, but you definitely were out here smashing these young girls, bro.
That that's that at this point.
That's a proven fact with the overwhelming amount of evidence.
Uh Montreal Rather, two bucks.
Heard he was M word by his older sister as a kid.
Yes, um, he was.
He was a victim of of uh of uh um of abuse himself as well.
Wow.
Go on.
No, we're gonna be able to do that.
This is not true.
This is not doesn't even make sense.
Why would I hold all these women?
Their mothers and fathers told me we're gonna destroy your career.
But Kelly's emotions remained raw.
It's an eight bit, five bucks.
Yes, the victim at what point she's per uh she's personal responsibility play a part.
You pee on me, I've he pee on her, she stayed, Riley Freeman.
A little lost here by that comment, but okay.
Real girls out there missing.
It's real young girls out there being abducted, being raped, okay.
They really are on chains, they really do have chains on their on their wrist, and they can't get out.
Or ending up buried in Robert, we have to have a conversation.
I don't want you just ranting at the camera.
Okay, I came here for them to hear me talk.
But I need help.
What kind of help?
This is the kind of help I need.
Yes, what kind of help?
Oh man, and we're gonna get into probably the best part of the show, the interview right here, man.
He needs help, guys.
So let's see what the help is that uh Mr. R. Kelly needs.
I need somebody to help me not have a big heart.
Because my What the What?
What the fuck?
My heart is so big.
People betray me and I keep forgiving them.
You sound like you're playing the victim here.
You sound like R. Kelly, you do.
And I listened to you just telling the truth.
You're playing the victim.
I'm just telling the truth.
And the reason I'm emotional.
I apologize for that.
No, is because this is the first time I was able to say something.
I've said nothing.
And that is true.
For like he held this in for like 30 years.
So to his credit, guys, I mean, if you're accused of terrible things like this and everything else like that, and it's been 30 years, you've holding held it in.
That's why he had such a crazy response to it.
You know, he's never spoken about about this stuff publicly.
And he honestly he shouldn't have done the interview.
I think that was a bad move.
Um, but five star sports betting goes L. Kelly.
That was easy.
Um, this was not a good interview, man.
Um, it's just sad.
This entire situation between the victims, R. Kelly tarnishing his career, him going to jail for 30 years, the girls having the trauma.
Um, it's just an L all all around.
You know, everyone uh definitely takes an L on this one, bro.
But um anyway, uh so we're gonna go ahead and stop it there.
So open it up for QA's here, guys.
Like the goddamn video, by the way.
Okay.
We'll do a short QA here.
And then I I might start um incorporating call-ins, guys.
Let me know if y'all want me to start doing call-ins on some of these fedish shows.
Not tonight, but in the future.
I noticed with the Tori Lane's case, you guys enjoy really enjoyed those.
Um NBA DeCali, 10 bucks.
Let's be honest.
This case only got reopened because Trump became president, which is what the birth of the whole Me Too movement and R. Kelly is a sacrificial lamb to give this fake movement any credibility.
Yeah, I mean, you could you could definitely have your conspiracy theories on it.
You know what I'm saying?
It is what it is.
Thanos, five bucks.
An eight-year-old is mature to change her gender, but a 16-year-old can't hypocrisy.
Oh shit.
Okay.
Asking a tough question here, I guess.
Um let's see here.
Any other questions or comments or anything like that?
Do you have any what's your take on all this, Denise, now that you've gone through uh through the case?
I mean, I don't think that it's okay that he messed around with minors or anything like that.
Uh I feel like the only thing that he did bad was um anything with minors because if they were older adults, I mean, even if he was abusive, they consented to that, obviously, and they're mature.
But when it comes to kids or anything like that, I just find that disgusting.
Yeah, very, very.
I can't respect them.
Yeah, and I like his songs.
Yeah.
Which sucks.
Yeah, it sucks.
He tarnished his legacy, man.
Yeah.
Fuck away.
Some young girls.
Yeah.
Uh let's see here.
Yes, merch guys.
She did say I feel like t-shirts in stores.
But yeah.
Um, but yeah, he did definitely hang around in high schools and McDonald's and all that.
Yeah, he actually would pick up girls and he would go to high schools and pick up girls.
Yep.
Yep.
I think Kenwood High School, which is where he used to sing.
Oh, terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah, with his music teacher.
I remember he would be like, oh, hey, music teacher, and then get with all the girls.
That's terrible.
Yep.
Very stupid.
Yeah.
Um, but I hope you guys enjoyed that show, man.
Um, that is the R. Kelly breakdown right there.
We talked about a bunch of different things.
Um, so again, guys, quick announcements.
Tomorrow we're gonna we're no fresh effect tomorrow.
We're gonna have fresh of it for you guys on Tuesday.
Okay, money Monday will be moved to Tuesday.
We're gonna talk about entrepreneurship, and then we're also gonna talk with the lovely ladies for after hours that night.
Um, and then also, guys, who knows?
Maybe I might do a second episode for y'all tomorrow.
Who knows if I'm if I got some time.
Uh, someone says five star sports betting, tits McGee reveal.
They want to see your uh well, you know what?
If we're if we're gonna do this, I need y'all to like the goddamn video if we're gonna do this.
If you guys want to see her breast reduction, which actually looks very good.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Go ahead and like the goddamn video right now.
We got 2.6k y'all watch right now, down to 2.5.
Actually, yeah, no, sorry, 2.5.
Get me to 2200 likes, and we'll show you guys the work that she did.
Yeah.
Dudes are saying this fucking idiots.
Show the tits.
Show the tits.
Yeah, but we need the likes.
Yeah, we need the likes up.
All right.
Uh, and she's a mage, goddamn it.
You guys better not call me R. Kelly in this shit.
She's opposite.
She's double the age.
I feel like a cougar.
Yeah, yeah, you feel like a cougar at this point.
Yeah.
Oh, feel like their mother.
Okay, that's fucking hilarious.
Uh Did he get offered a plea?
Yeah, guys, he always they always get offered pleas.
You know, the government never wants to go to trial, bro.
They're always gonna um offer a plea.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's what it is.
Shout out to Zukai, member of the of the team.
Uh, let me make sure here that I didn't.
No, she ain't 36, guys.
She's 29.
She's 29.
I'm just being funny.
Yeah, they can't give me 29, guys.
All right.
Well, I guess you guys will have to catch it on the next show.
Uh, but anyway, because we we didn't we didn't hit our number.
Uh, it's fine.
You got but don't worry, guys.
You guys are gonna see uh Denise gonna be hanging uh uh coming around more for these feta episodes.
So uh, you know, as you guys are our schedule is kind of conflict, which is why you guys haven't seen her in a while.
But I'll catch you guys.
Um if we don't do a show tomorrow, I'll catch you guys Tuesday.
Love y'all.
Like the video, okay?
Right now, like the video.
And we'll catch you guys tomorrow.
Sorry, Tuesday.
Love y'all.
Okay, leave a comment below as well.
Helps the engagement quite a bit.
And uh, yeah, hope you guys enjoyed that one.
Peace.
Uh NCIS.
Okay.
Uh all right.
Let's let's break this down too.
Uh okay.
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