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July 4, 2022 - MyronGainesX
01:43:44
Former Fed Explains WHY R. Kelly got 30 YEARS In Prison...
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And we are live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to Fed It.
Today, we're going to break down the R. Kelly case, and I'm joined with a returning friend, aka Miss Tits McGee.
She's back.
Let's get in with, guys.
We got a lot to talk about.
Let's do it.
Move on, McGayz.
Okay, guys.
I used to be a special agent on Malinsky Investigations.
This is the arrest paperwork.
Okay, so here is the booking.
Cases that I did mostly were human smuggling and drug trafficking.
Those are like two crimes that I'm a very good agent, very strong agent.
I did a lot of big cases.
I've done Title 3 Intercepts, which is basically listening to phones.
I've written hundreds of affidavits to arrest people.
I've done a grand jury and testified a million times.
I've done big cases.
I've done.
All right.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to Feda 1811.
Today, we're going to be talking about the R. Kelly case.
So number one, quick announcements, guys.
I'm really happy that you guys are all here.
We had a very busy week this week.
Tomorrow, we're not going to be doing Fresh and Fit.
We're going to have Fresh and Fit on Tuesday, guys.
And the reason why we're going to do it on Tuesday is because it's July 4th.
A lot of people are not going to be home.
They're going to be out traveling, whatever it may be.
They're going to be doing barbecues and fireworks and everything.
So we're going to go ahead and give y'all Fresh and Fit Money Monday on Tuesday.
We're probably going to talk about entrepreneurship.
And then on, and then we're obviously going to give you guys a nighttime show as well.
And then I'm debating whether I'm going to give you guys a second episode of Fed It.
We'll see.
Maybe, maybe I'll do one tomorrow.
Who knows?
I got another case that I want to cover with a bank robbery that I think you guys would really enjoy where I react to it.
It's an old documentary from back in the 90s, but it's really good stuff.
And I think you guys are enjoying me breaking it down for y'all.
So let's see here.
I think we had a super chat real quick.
Actually, no, no, Denise, you want to introduce yourself to the people real quick?
Yes.
Hi, I'm Denise.
I've been here before.
I'm better known as Tits McGee.
Nice to see everybody again.
Missed everyone.
Yeah, you got a reduction, didn't you?
Yes, I did get a press reduction.
What were they before?
Triple D. Damn.
32 Triple D and now I'm 32 C. Okay.
All right.
Maybe later on in the show, we'll see what happens, guys.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll show you guys a little sun.
So, okay, we'll hit some of these chats.
We got Marquee912.
You should do an episode on deadly use of force, reviewing law enforcement shooting Tennessee versus Garner and the Deadly Force Triangle.
Yeah, I could do that.
I don't know if the average viewer is going to care for that, though, bro.
That's like a very, you probably work in law enforcement asking a question like that.
Like the average person is going to be like, what?
I don't give a fuck about this.
So let's see here.
And then we got, and thank you so much for the donation, my friend.
All right.
So I guess we'll, what else?
Another announcement.
There's one more.
Okay.
And we got Monkey D. Usa $5.
So if you want to come to my hotel, all you got to do is holler at me because we're having an after party.
Check it out.
Six is the board.
Six.
He's referring to a song with Cassidy and R. Kelly.
I remember that shit, man.
That shit was, girl, you want to come to my hotel?
Yeah, you know that shit back in the day.
Yeah, man.
I mean, R. Kelly had a lot of hits, man.
Like, it's crazy how things have changed and everything else like that.
But, all right, so I guess we'll get right into, oh, and then sorry, guys, for starting kind of late.
I've started running again.
I lifted weights and then I actually went for a run.
I got some things that I'm training for that I can't disclose yet.
But yeah, you guys will see soon enough.
But yeah, I started running again.
So I had to like, you know, I come in and usually know when you go on a run, you fucking sweat for like a long ass time and you're just like, oh, God.
So I just showered and I'm still sweating a bit here.
But yeah, it's good.
I'm still in good cardiovascular shape.
So that makes me feel happy.
I'm slower than I used to be, but I'm going to get back to like, you know, six minute miles.
But anyway, with that said, let's see here.
So we're going to go ahead, guys, and introduce you guys to who R. Kelly is.
You know, some of you guys may not know who this guy is.
He's probably before a lot of your guys' time.
So yeah.
So we got here.
Here he is.
Robert Sylvester Kelly, born January 8th, 1967, is an American singer, songwriter, record producer, and convicted sex offender.
As recording artist, Kelly was credited with helping to redefine R B and hip-hop, earning nicknames such as the King of RB, the King of Pop Soul, and the Pied Piper of RB, which is kind of funny because, you know, they would use the Pied Piper to refer to him getting girls that are young.
He is known for his extensive discography of hits spanning three decades.
He sold over 75 million records worldwide, which made him the most successful male RB artist of the 90s and one of the world's best-selling music artists.
He won three Grammy Awards for his song, I Believe I Can Fly.
He has written, produced, and remixed songs, singles, and albums for several artists, including Michael Jackson's You Are Not Alone, for which he was nominated for a Grammy.
Throughout his career, Kelly has been repeatedly accused of sexual abuse with young adults and minors.
He faced multiple civil suits and was indicted by criminal courts in Chicago, New York, Illinois, and Minnesota.
He repeatedly denied the charges in 1994.
He illegally married his underage protege, Aaliyah, in 2002.
He was indicted, but eventually acquitted on 21 counts of making child pornography.
So I know you guys are probably wondering: wait, hold on, hold on.
Who's Aaliyah?
I got y'all ninjas right now.
This is Aaliyah, guys, just so you know.
Um, uh, and uh, okay, so Aaliyah here, and can you hit control um plus on your end, uh, Denise, just on the on the top screen so I can see it because I'm blind.
Uh, where are you, son?
Oh, you know what?
No, I got it.
Don't worry about it.
Okay, Aaliyah Dana Hewen, uh, or Houghton, uh, known uh, monomymanously as Aaliyah, was an American singer, actress, dancer, and model.
She has been credited for helping to redefine contemporary RB hip hop and hip-hop, earning her the nickname as the princess of RB and queen of urban pop.
Um, born in Brooklyn, but raised in Detroit, she first gained recognition at the age of 10 when she appeared on the television show Star Search and performed in concert alongside Gladys Knight at the age of 12.
Aaliyah signed with Jive Records and her uncle Barry Hankerson's back uh blackground records, and that's when she met R. Kelly guys when she was 12.
Hankerson introduced her to R. Kelly, who became her mentor, as well as lead songwriter and producer of her debut album, Age Ain't Nothing But a Number.
Oh man, that did not that aged perfectly, I guess, in a terrible way, right?
Like, holy shit, okay.
Um, the album sold 3 million copies in the United States and was certified double platinum by the recording industry associates, RIAA.
After allegations of an illegal marriage with R. Kelly, Aaliyah ended her contract with Jive and signed with Atlantic Records.
And this, guys, is the marriage certificate right here that everyone is talking about.
I'm going to share screen with y'all real fast.
Bam.
You can see here, Mara's license greetings to any person legally authorized to solemnize a marriage September 6, 1994.
Robert S. Kelly of Chicago in the county of Cook and the state of Illinois of the age of 27 and Aaliyah D. Houghton of Chicago and the county of Cook and the age of Illinois of the age of 18 years old.
When in reality, guys, when this happened in 94, I think she was actually 15, if I'm not mistaken.
She was born 1979, 1979.
My math sucks.
I think she was 15.
But yeah, 1994 minus 1979.
Bear with me, guys.
I filled out a bunch of times.
15.
I was right.
I was right there with you.
Thank you.
So, you know, and Aaliyah, you know, is a legend also in the RB space, guys.
But she passed away in 2001.
And I remember it was an airplane crash.
I remember when the news broke back then.
I was 11 back then.
So anyway.
So anyway, let's go back to R. Kelly.
Where were we?
So yeah, this is the marriage.
That was the marriage certificate.
Not a good look for him getting married to her.
Okay.
So in January 2019, a lifetime television docuseries, Surviving R. Kelly, helped resurface the scandal.
Under pressure from the mute R. Kelly movement, RCA records terminated Kelly's contract with the label.
In 2019, several jurisdictions built criminal cases against Kelly, and grand juries brought indictments in both federal and state courts.
And for some of you guys that are wondering, this is the documentary that they're talking about right here, Surviving R. Kelly.
Oh, hold on.
My bad.
Let me share screen with y'all.
This is it right here: Surviving R. Kelly in this documentary series on the tangled history of allegations against musician R. Kelly women give detailed accounts of sexual and mental abuse.
Now, I'm going to reserve my thoughts on this documentary to the end, and we'll go over the facts.
But there's some things here that we could definitely discuss when it comes to this documentary because I did watch some of it.
Denise, you watched the whole thing, right?
What was your take on it?
Well, my take on it is you watched all the episodes, right?
Yeah, he, yes, he did.
He did try to get with a lot of minors, but he also was with a lot of women of age.
It was just all about, from what I've seen, is all about how much he can control them.
So I feel that if he was able to control, my conclusion is if he was able to control somebody and they were able to listen to him and do what he said, that was his like girlfriend.
He always had more than one.
I think he owned like two houses.
Okay.
And in each house, he always had like girls in their own room.
And apparently, from what these women are saying, it sounds like he was really mean.
Like he deprived them of food, deprived them of God damn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw some of that.
I was like, holy shit.
And he obviously denied all these allegations, guys, that he was like denying girls of food and everything else like that or telling them when they can piss and all the other stuff.
It's a little sensationalized.
We don't know if it's, you know, if it's 100%, but there's a bunch of witnesses, man.
So it looks like, you know, when you have 40 plus witnesses all giving a very similar story, corroborating each other, you know, it's very difficult to defeat that, you know, being objective here.
But I'll give my personal opinion at the end.
Okay.
So let's continue hang on.
Under pressure from, okay, so in 2021, the United States Attorney of the Eastern District of New York tried and won the first criminal conviction against Kelly for a sex offense with the jury finding Kelly guilty on a total of nine criminal counts, including violations of the Mann Act and racketeering.
On June 29, 2022, Kelly was sentenced to 30 years in prison.
Kelly continues to challenge his New York conviction.
He actually sued them as well because they put him on a suicide watch and he's suing them for doing that.
As of June 22, Kelly is scheduled to face another federal trial in the Northern District of Illinois alongside his former employees.
The indictment alleges Kelly both produced child sexual abuse material and conspired with employees to corruptly win his 2008 acquittal.
The trial is scheduled to begin August 15th, 2022.
So R. Kelly.
Talk about a fall from Grace, my friends.
He went from one of the best RB.
I remember back when they used to call him the king of RB.
I remember when he had the hits, you know, Ignition, Hotel.
He dominated the 90s.
You know, I remember vividly watching Space Jam as a kid back in, you know, I think Space Jam, when did it come out?
Like 94 or 95 or something like that?
Yeah.
It's still a classic.
And that was the lead soundtrack.
Let me see here.
Space Jam.
Not 2020.
The original.
96.
Okay.
And I remember that being like one of the lead songs on there.
And, you know, and this is back when like movie soundtracks actually mattered.
But nowadays, like movie soundtracks, no one gives a fuck.
Like it's like, okay, your song was featured in the movie.
Who gives a shit?
Because I remember they used to sell soundtrack albums.
You remember those days?
Yeah, no, and in McDonald's, they had the Cops, everything with Space Jam.
It was a really big deal.
Yeah, it was huge.
You know what I mean?
You get the little toy and all that other stuff.
Remember, I got the Tasmanian Devil.
Because in 96, I was six, guys.
I was still living in New York City back then.
So, so yeah, I remember that was like the lead thing.
But yeah, you know, soundtracks nowadays don't mean shit.
You know, it used to be a thing back then, like having your song on a big movie as a soundtrack.
But, you know, times have changed.
Record labels have changed.
Selling music has changed.
You know, nowadays, like if you didn't go platinum back then with discs, they looked at you like you were a bum.
You know what I mean?
Like you weren't like a top-tier artist.
Nowadays, it's normal to like sell 10, 20, 30,000 units.
And it's like, wow, to me.
So, I mean, the record, the record industry has changed significantly.
But yeah, anyway, that's Space Jam for y'all.
So I'll hit some of these chats real quick before we get into the criminal case here.
And shout out to Denise, help me out, put them all there.
We got, let's see here.
And guys, I appreciate all the support.
I really do, man.
Like I said, I do this channel mostly for like your guys' education and entertainment.
So the money definitely, I appreciate it.
You don't have to donate a dollar, but every dollar that you do donate, I appreciate it.
And as you guys know, it goes right back into making the content better because I do spend a significant amount of time researching these cases for you guys, going through the legal documents.
Hell, even Denise studied up and read some of the stuff for y'all so that she can be somewhat prepared and not just standing, sitting around like a bimbo.
And she's not a bimbo.
Not anymore, not anymore.
Not anymore.
Was it from the breast reduction?
Is that what that works?
Yeah, ever since that, ever since the breast reduction, I'm no longer.
Fair enough.
That's good.
What we know podcast, five bucks.
If they want to give R. Kelly 30, they need to arrest the parents and people that work for him.
Can't tell me these females had easy access to him.
That's true.
That's very, very true because the parents did basically give their kids away to R. Kelly, you know, for the promise of or potential of their child being signed or making money and everything.
And then when things didn't work out, a lot of them came back and was like, oh, well, you know, we were abused and stuff.
And that's the argument that his defense made.
Okay.
But it didn't work.
They were able to convict him.
What else do we got here?
Can you pull up some of those other things?
Yeah, let me pull up the other ones.
And guys, do me a quick favor while I pull up these others because now we're going to start getting into the court documents.
So please like the video.
Garage Man Teddy, 10 bucks.
What's good, Myron?
You did a great breakdown of the Breonna Taylor case.
Are you following the police chase and shooting in Ohio?
Protests starting and conflicting accounts already happening.
I am not following it, but I will check it out.
I've been focusing, guys, on Young Dolph.
I got Christina helping out with that one.
Obviously, this R. Kelly one is what I've been spending time with this week.
And then also that bank robbery case that I told you all about.
And I'm also working on the Buffalo shooter, guys.
He just recently got indicted federally.
The guy that the white supremacist dude that went in that shooting in that market.
Did you hear about that, Denise?
No, I didn't.
No?
Long story short, back in like late May, this guy fucking went on Twitch streaming, pulled out an AR-15, went into a supermarket, and started shooting people.
Oh my gosh, and he did it live on stream.
Yeah, I have the actual video.
I probably won't be able to play it on YouTube, but I'll probably put it for y'all on Patreon and I'll react to it.
But it was really bad.
It looks like a video game almost, but it's like, it's sick.
It's terrible.
Jeez, I can't believe that really happened.
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, he's reporting himself on Twitch like an idiot, going in there and shooting them.
And he had like a big manifesto talking about, you know, how we got to be pure white people and all this other crazy shit.
He lost his mind.
He was going through.
And he's only 18.
My man lost his fucking marbles.
You know, look at Pill Cosby.
He said, R. Kelly's innocent.
Oh, my God.
The fucking thing is blurry.
Yo, you guys are fucking.
That's clever.
Yo.
Oh, my God, bro.
Yo, chat is unfucking defeated, bro.
The Fresh and Fifth Fab.
You guys are fucking undefeated, man.
Oh, he's innocent with the fucking blurry Bill Cosby.
He's so bad.
Oh, man.
Anything else here for Jets?
Jonathan Hogu, five bucks.
R. Kelly's going to be in the shower with a soap on a rope, and somebody's going to sing out loud, move your body like a snake, Ma.
Move your body like a snake.
Yeah, bro.
He had so many hits, man.
So many hits.
And he dominated the 90s, bro.
He was, he was a fucking man.
And even in the early 2000s, he was still killing it.
You know, my favorite, one of my favorite joints from him was Fiesta with Jay-Z, the best of both worlds.
That was a fantastic CD, that album.
The envy of all mankind, five bucks.
You should do an episode on the Vibes Cartel case.
He had a dance hall artist, and I think they found dead bodies in his house.
Yes, I will do it.
Even though I'm not familiar with Jamaican law, guys, I'm going to get Dolphace to help me out with that.
As you guys know, she's native Jamaican.
And we'll do that one for y'all.
But yeah, I don't know much about that case.
I know Fresh even told me to break that one down.
But dude, I don't know Jamaican law, man.
So all I can go off of is what I'm going to see.
But from what I understand, the Jamaican police are corrupt.
So, and from what I also know, he is living kind of like in a chill-ass like prison.
He's not even really in jail.
Oh, wow.
It's like when they arrested Pablo Escobar and they put him in fucking prison.
And he was basically, it was like a resort.
It was like a resort.
They were bringing hookers in and shit.
They were chilling, bro.
Yeah.
They were letting him dig a hole in the floor.
Yeah, like all that shit.
So, so, okay.
Anybody else?
Anyone else?
Denise?
No, that's one more.
Okay, pull up the last one and then we'll get into it.
Shout out to Myron, Denise.
Let's play basketball together.
Oh, okay.
I get it with the boobs.
I get it.
Oh, I was like, okay, that's random.
All right.
That was awkward, Michael, but who cares?
Who gives a shit?
Bye, Michael.
Okay.
Oh, no.
Wait.
I think he means Space Jam.
Oh.
Yeah.
I think he means the reference to Space Jam.
Maybe he's not.
Let's make it perfect.
Okay, all right, bro.
That's on us for being stupid.
Okay.
And then I still remember when Chappelle did the parody piss on you song.
Yes, I remember that too, bro.
I remember that too.
Cover his apology song.
It basically admits everything.
Oh, I probably can't play it, guys, because I'm going to get in trouble for that shit.
It'll probably get hit with copyright.
And you know for a fact that his record label right now is probably watching anything that has to do with him with like a fucking hawk.
So, all right, cool.
So we're going to go ahead, guys, and give you guys a quick little timeline of R. Kelly's sexual misconduct.
Okay.
And this song I think might be copyrighted.
So just to play it safe, I'm going to play it without sound.
All right.
So here we are.
Okay.
Grammy winner Robert Kelly faces charges, okay, of illegal sexual activities with minors in multiple jurisdictions.
We talked about that, you know, New York, Illinois, Minnesota.
Was it Michigan?
Minnesota, I think it was.
So December 1994, there was craziness with Aaliyah, right?
We showed you guys the marriage license from August 1994.
You know, he said that he married her when she was 18, when in reality, she was 15, right?
Was in all the press surrounding the debut album that he had written and produced for her, which he called Age Ain't Nothing But a Number.
That's the name of the song.
Okay, I'll pause real quick, guys, because we don't want to get hit with the copyright.
These dudes are like hawks on here, but I'll play it again.
Just gotta play it.
Stop it.
Play.
That's how you get around the copyright shit.
You just gotta stop it, talk.
You know what I'm saying?
Pause for a second.
Maybe Denise, make a comment.
What's your thoughts on this song?
I used to like this song a lot.
I didn't know any better.
Okay.
Wait, in 94, how old were you in 94?
No, I just like all her songs.
Oh, later on.
I like all her songs.
People are probably going to wonder.
How old are you, Denise?
By the way, I'm 29.
There you go.
She's a senior citizen, guys.
Yeah.
She's almost elders.
I respect your elders.
94, man.
Times changed quite a bit right there.
Okay.
Kelly had begun working with her when she was 12.
And then this infamous interview here on BET.
Either girlfriend or boyfriend or cousins.
No, we're not related.
No, no, no.
We're just very close.
He's my best friend.
No such thing as guy and girl best friends, bro.
We all know that's cap.
If you guys didn't watch the episode that we did the other day, we had a girl actually call her guy friend and she asked him, I told her to ask him this, hey, why did we ever like become anything?
And he's just basically like, oh, yeah, well, I thought that you didn't like me and all this other shit.
It's like, bro, it proves my point.
There's no such thing as platonic friends between men and women.
There's no fucking such thing, man.
I agree.
You know, it's bullshit.
I agree.
Two months later, the marriage is annulled under pressure from her parents.
So bam.
Marriage got annulled.
Here's the document right here, guys.
Okay.
And then Kelly pays her anomaly $100 to never press charges.
Neither public can confirm the marriage before Aaliyah's untimely death in 2001.
Okay.
And then Kelly pays off Tiffany Hawkins, one of the people that testified against him, who alleges the singer engaged in a three-year sex relationship with her in 1991 when she was 15 and he was 24.
Fuckin'up, bro.
Kelly would often cruise high schools and the rock and roll McDonald's and the Evergreen Plaza shopping mall.
Yeah, so Kelly, guys, just so you know, he went to Kenwood High School in Chicago, and there was a McDonald's in that area as well.
And he would always be there when he was starting to blow up in the 90s, recruiting girls, you know, that were high school age, which is very stupid.
But yep.
Kelly once again settles out of court with former Epics Records intern, Tracy Sampson, another person that came forward as a witness.
You accused him of beginning a sex relationship with her when she was 17.
And then February 2002, as Kelly prepares to perform at the Winter Olympics, the Chicago Sun-Times reports on a video sent to them, allegedly showing Kelly engaging in sex, urinating on an underage girl.
And that's where all the jokes come from with, I'm going to pee on you.
Okay.
That's where it all comes from, guys.
Set Okai with five bucks.
I ain't going to lie.
I'm going to still step in the name of love.
Yo, y'all niggas.
Yo, that's another hit song that he had.
Step in the name of love.
It's like that song.
Step in the name of love.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, a lot.
You guys are like literally bringing me down memory lane right now.
Like, just all these hit songs that he had, bro.
It's really sad that this shit had to happen and this dude couldn't fucking control himself and had to deal with young ass chicks.
Yo, real talk, I'm going to say this.
If he had just dealt with of age women, he probably wouldn't be in the shitty position he's in right now.
You know what I mean?
That's that's the uncomfortable truth.
This fucking guy, right, was over here dealing with chicks that were too goddamn young.
Like, what the fuck are you doing, bro?
What are you doing?
You know, if these women were of age, probably a lot of this stuff, he, or if he did get charged, it wouldn't be as bad as it is now.
But dude, you mess around with kids?
You're cruising for a bruising, man.
Fucking dummy.
Okay.
The girl's aunt identifies her niece saying she would have been 14 at the time.
Well, Kelly publicly denies he is the man in the video.
And then there was rumors also that Kelly wanted to get his brother to take responsibility and say that he was the guy in the video doing it.
He's going to pay him 50K.
Do you remember that in the documentary?
I remember that.
Yeah.
Because they do look fairly similar.
So 2002, Kelly pays an undisclosed amount to Patrice Jones, who claims the singer impregnated her when she was 16, who claims to be the singer, forced her to have an abortion.
Well, can't do that now.
Shout out to Roe v.
Wade, right?
Getting overturned.
Can't do that shit no more, my friend.
You know, Kelly again settles out of court with a woman who accuses a singer of filming her during sex without her consent.
Guys, this is so big.
A lot of you guys, you know, will do some dumb shit where you're recording a chick when you're smashing or whatever.
Understand, guys, that that's a felony in a lot of states, okay?
You can't do that shit.
I get it.
We live in a Me Too era.
These women are crazy.
They might try to accuse you of some bullshit.
It happens.
Just ask for permission.
Do you mind if I go if I record this fornication?
Don't say it like that.
But you get what I'm saying.
Do you mind if I, hey, I'm going to record whatever it may be?
Let her know, bro.
And if she says no, then don't record.
Okay.
Don't get yourself in trouble for fucking voyeurism, guys.
It's a felony in a lot of states.
All right.
That means you were guilty.
Why'd you settle?
Time I had a lot of good things in my life going on musically.
So they're asking him at BAT, why did you settle?
It's not a good time to go to court over something like that.
So if you settle, it'd be better.
Okay, now being objective here, most lawsuits do end in settling.
So I don't know why he's saying that, trying to say, you know, people assume that you're guilty when you settle.
I mean, we know Kobe Bryant, for example, did not rape that girl in Colorado, but he settled because he was, they didn't do the criminal case.
They dropped the charges, but she still sued him civilly back in, I think, 04, 05.
And he settled.
He gave her an undisclosed amount of money.
Why?
Because you don't want to deal with the fucking headaches, man.
And then going to trial, right?
It's going to, sometimes it costs more money to go to trial than it does to just pay the settlement and be done with it.
So this is why people settle, man.
Most civil cases do end in civil.
They don't end in litigation.
They end in settlement.
Okay.
So June 20, 2002.
Okay.
He's indicted in Chicago on 21 counts of making child pornography.
R. Kelly.
See, I guess he took the advice too literally.
Yeah, let me record myself fucking banging kids.
You fucking guys, I mean, this is just common sense, but bro, guys, ask these girls for their fucking IDs, bro.
Like, literally, ask these girls for the, if they say they're 18, 19, 20, whatever, ask for their fucking IDs, guys.
Like, seriously, I don't give a fuck.
I've done it before.
You know, I've messed with like an 18, 19 year old and then they're like, I'm 18, 19.
I'm of age.
I'll be like, I don't give a fuck.
Let me see your ID.
I literally will look, I will look at that shit, make sure it's real.
Bro, do not put yourself in a shitty situation.
And the other thing, too, you guys got to understand, a lot of states, right?
Like, like you not knowing her age or her lying to you is not a defense.
Okay.
One more time, man.
This shit can save your life.
Guys, if there's one thing you're going to take away from this, you know, podcast and, you know, besides, you know, our entertainment here of R. Kelly doing stupid shit in the 90s and early 2000s.
There's one thing you could take away from this.
A lot of states, guys, they don't give a fuck if the girl lied to you.
They don't care if the family lied to you.
They don't care if you even looked at the ID and it was real or sorry, it was fake and you didn't know it was fake.
If the girl was underage, you will not have a defense of saying, I didn't know or she lied.
Okay?
Let that sink in.
So if she lies to you, bangs you, you find out after the fact that she was young, you can still be criminally charged, guys.
Okay?
Protect yourself.
Don't be an idiot.
When you deal with younger women, you need to ask for a goddamn ID.
Hellas Denise for hers.
And I saw that she was born in 1942.
And I was like, fantastic.
Just kidding.
But real talk, guys.
You found me in a home.
Yeah.
If I picked her up at an ALF.
Yeah.
And matter of fact, I met her at Dunkin' Donuts.
I saw that she was getting a senior discount.
I said, bro, hook a brother up.
I need some black coffee too.
But real talk, guys, don't do what R. Kelly's doing here.
Deal with girls of age.
I don't give a fuck.
And if they're too close to like 18 or whatever or 19, 20, whatever the hell it is, ask for a fucking ID.
Ask for it.
Okay.
Don't play with this shit.
Yeah, look, urinating on other girls.
Days later, Singer is arrested by Miami Police Department on the Chicago warrant.
Okay.
And images of Kelly having sex with an undisclosed girl are found in his home.
Kelly is charged in Florida with 12 counts of child pornography, which are dropped when a judge rules there was insufficient evidence for the search.
So he got charged, guys, on this child pornography stuff, right?
Which I told you guys before.
And he was acquitted.
They're going to retry him August 15th for that in Chicago federally now.
Now, that presents the potential issue of double jeopardy, which I'm going to play here.
This attorney kind of breaks it down pretty well.
Now, what is double jeopardy, guys?
Double jeopardy is essentially you can't be tried for the same crime twice.
So the state charged him with possession of child pornography, failed.
He was acquitted.
Now the feds have pretty much taken the case, and now they're going to charge him with the same thing.
So his defense might be able to actually present something here to get him off on these charges on a double jeopardy defense.
So let's go ahead and see what this attorney has to say.
Reaction to this.
Are you surprised?
I'm not at all surprised.
These were very heavy sentences, but this has been a bad two days for the rich and famous.
Miss Maxwell yesterday and R. Kelly today are both in effect sentence.
Yes, Ghelane Maxwell got 20 years, guys, and R. Kelly got 30 years.
Sentenced to life in prison.
And the size of R. Kelly's sentence, which exceeded the amount that the government was demanding, didn't really come as a surprise to me, given the fact that he, unusually enough, he was convicted of violations of the racketeering statute, what we commonly call the RICO statute, which cat.
And you guys, you guys have been watching me for a while now.
You pretty much know where RICO is.
RICO is an effective way to target criminal organizations and charge everyone under the same umbrella.
You get stiffer sentencing, you get stiffer penalties, and it's easier to charge.
And on top of that, a lot of the times, you're able to beat the statute of limitations.
Why?
Because if you're able to show, because you guys can see a lot of these crimes happened 20, 30 years ago, but they're able to bring it back and attack and charge him because under racketeering, all they need to show is that there's a pattern of criminal activity occurring over a period of time.
And then, bam, they can get over the statute of limitations.
Barries enormous penalties.
So it was no surprise to me.
So, Paul, as you pointed out, prosecutors were asking for 25 years.
The judge issued a higher sentence than that.
Why do you think that the prosecution didn't ask for a higher sentence, considering what you said?
And how often does that happen that the judge exceeds the prosecution's recommendations?
It does happen fairly frequently.
You have to remember that judges sit there through the entire trial.
They are except for rules.
And just so you guys know, the reason why he got 30 years is because he didn't plead guilty.
He went to trial, guys.
When you go to trial, all right, what's going to happen is the government, and I can tell you guys this from personal experience.
Nobody else on YouTube could tell you all this.
I've prepared for a federal criminal trial before.
Okay.
And I'll break this case down for y'all.
But long story short, I had a case one time where we caught this human smuggler.
He got caught smuggling a bunch of aliens into the United States and he put the aliens in danger.
And he was facing quite a bit of time.
And this was like his third time getting arrested for this offense.
So he said, fuck it.
I'm going to trial.
So he goes to trial, right?
If he had just pled guilty, he would have got significantly less time because he would have got a plea bargain.
And most cases, guys, especially in the federal system, are pretty much settled through a plea bargain where the guy says, all right, I'll plead guilty.
I'll give a statement of my guilt.
And in exchange for the government not having to waste time and money preparing for trial, I will get a lesser sentence.
This guy decided to go to trial.
Let me tell you guys what happens when you go to fucking trial.
As the case agent, you essentially become the prosecutor's bitch.
All right.
I'm going to say it.
I don't give a fuck.
It is the truth.
Once you go to trial, it's your job to gather all the evidence, gather all the witnesses, corral everyone up, get all the agents that were involved in search warrants, whatever it may be.
You're going to go and get them all ready and bring them to U.S. attorney's office, have the attorney, you know, prep everyone up, you know, have all the documents ready, help them with discovery, all that stuff.
Okay.
You have to arm the prosecutor with everything they need to win the trial.
Okay.
Because when you go to trial, all right, now you have to prove in front of a jury through due process and everything else like that, that this person is not just guilty, but they're guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, which is a very high burden to prove.
Okay.
So when you're there, you're responsible for making sure that AUSA has everything they need.
Because remember, guys, AUSAs don't really have arrest authority like that.
You know, they're considered a law enforcement officer of the United States to a degree, but they don't really go out and interview people and gather witnesses.
That's the agent's job.
So you have to go do that stuff.
So the fact that Kelly, right, R. Kelly went to trial, they had to prepare 30 years worth of evidence against him.
And then on top of that, he never admitted to any of the crimes.
He never gave an apology.
He denied everything.
So the government looks at it like, okay, you're not going to admit guilt.
You're not going to plea bargain.
You're going to make us go through the process of trial and proving you wrong.
Well, guess what?
Now you're going to feel the full force of the U.S. government and you're going to go ahead and get as much time as possible.
That is more than likely why the judge gave him more time, okay, than what the prosecutors wanted.
Hope you guys enjoy that.
You ain't going to get a breakdown like that anywhere else, man.
Ruling on objections to evidence, they form their own impressions of the evidence of the witnesses.
They're staring at the defendants.
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All right, so let's continue on.
We're talking about R. Kelly here and his charges.
And judges do have, even in the federal courts, much more so in the state courts, judges do have discretion to exceed what we call the sentencing guidelines.
And this particular judge is not known as a harsh sentencer, but she's a very attentive judge.
And she must have formed some very distinct reactions to and the government had like 40 witnesses against him, guys.
It was pretty bad, which is why it's very difficult to believe him, you know.
Kelly's demeanor, his constant substitution of lawyers.
I think that tended to cut against him.
But again, okay, why would that cut against him?
Because anytime the defendant goes ahead and gets other attorneys or whatever, it pushes the entire judicial process back, guys.
Okay.
So he's delaying, right, due process.
And obviously, to keep a case going and prepare for trial and everything else like that, guys, it costs money.
You got to fly these witnesses.
Like it's a logistical nightmare, guys, from the case agent perspective and the U.S. attorney's office perspective to have a case like this where you got to fly in 40 plus witnesses who are all over the fucking country, maybe the world.
You got to put them up in hotels.
You got to pay for their food.
It's extremely labor intensive to do this.
Okay.
You got to protect them, all this stuff.
So it is not easy to go to trial.
And then with someone like R. Kelly, where this is going to get a lot of media attention, it becomes an even bigger spectacle.
Okay.
So they got to pay the Federal Protective Services quite a bit of money.
The marshals are on high alert because when you have a big case like this, it's very expensive to fund it.
Again, the basic principle would be that she, she, the judge in the Kelly case, was applying that driving force of the racketeering statute, which was not an element in Ms. Maxwell's sentencing yesterday.
Well, Kelly.
Yes.
And that is why for all you guys that are saying, yo, America's racist or whatever, why did Ghelaine Maxwell get less time than R. Kelly?
The reason why she got less time, guys, is because R. Kelly, they got him under RICO, guys.
When you go under RICO, it's going to be a very bad time for you, my friends.
This is the law.
The RICO statute, guys, is the same law that's put pretty much the entire La Cosa Nostra, mafia, blood gangs, Casanova, 6ix9ine, the mafia, a lot of these gangs that you guys are seeing getting like sweeping indictments on.
These are all RICO cases.
RICO does not fuck around.
They're extremely difficult to do from the case agent perspective to get them approved.
You got to get it approved through the U.S. Department of Justice.
But once you get it approved, man, you're going to serve a lot of time if they convict you of it.
Kelly has replaced his legal team since he was convicted.
He is now represented by the same attorney who helped get Bill Cosby's conviction overturned.
What does that suggest, Paul?
You got Bill Cosby's attorney?
Well, this strategy seems to be all over the place.
If you look at the docket sheet, which is publicly available, Kelly has substituted attorneys with great frequency.
He has a right to do that.
He does.
Certainly, if he believes that by bringing in new lawyers at this late date, just before the sentencing, he's throwing a Hail Mary pass because the record is already set.
The sentencing memoranda of both sides were already submitted, and the judge had probably already made her decision.
Certainly, Kelly is going to appeal.
Certainly, Ms. Maxwell will appeal.
But the unfortunate part for both of them is that convictions in federal court are very infrequently reversed.
I'm speaking in federal court, Paul Kelly.
That's true.
Very rare.
Separate federal trials.
For child pornography.
Okay, so this is the second case that I told you guys.
So he got convicted in New York City, right?
In Brooklyn.
And this courthouse, actually, guys, that's the courthouse in Brooklyn.
I've been there before.
I arrested someone one time.
And I arrested him in New York.
I arrested him in LaGuardia Airport.
And I'm going to break this case down.
I got some footage for y'all, too, that I'll show you guys.
It was really cool.
But when you arrest him in LaGuardia Airport, that falls into the Eastern District of New York.
And I went ahead and took him to court.
We indicted him out of Miami, but he was in LaGuardia trying to flee the country.
We caught him at the airport right at the terminal.
And obviously, when you arrest him, you have to bring him in front of a judge within 24 to 72 hours.
So I actually took him to this courthouse right here in Brooklyn.
It's right by the Brooklyn Bridge.
It's a very nice area.
And I presented him in front of the judge to get his charges right to him.
So this is a nice courthouse here.
I've been here myself.
And obstruction charges there now.
Yo, and by the way, I'm looking at the goddamn thing.
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Guys, first of all, like the video because no one's going to give you guys insight like this on YouTube when it comes to breaking down federal cases.
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So now we're going to go into the second case now in August, guys, that he's going to go to trial for the child pornography charges in Chicago.
So another district indicted him for child pornography out there.
It's expected to start in August.
Is today's sentencing going to impact that trial at all?
It's an open question to me, quite frankly, Tanya.
And I don't want to get overly technical.
Kelly was acquitted.
The answer is no, it can't affect him.
You cannot use other charges from another district against him as evidence.
So the answer to that is no.
But he's going to get into what his defense team should do.
Remember, this guy's a defense attorney.
So he just, you know, my man just dodged that question like a fucking ninja by a state court on the charges for which he is now going to be tried in the federal court in Illinois.
So number one, I would have the issue as his lawyer of whether or not he was facing double jeopardy.
In effect, being tried, tried twice for the same offense.
And it may well be that given the sentence here in New York against Kelly, the proceeding in federal court in Illinois, in Chicago, may well disappear.
I'm not making that prediction, but that does often happen.
Interesting.
Back on.
Yeah, I'm actually very intrigued as to how they were able to put this case against him as well, knowing that he beat the case in Illinois.
But there are rumors that he paid off jurors and all this other stuff.
So if that was the case, they might be able to bring those charges against against him.
The situation and stuff like that.
Does R. Kelly have a route for an appeal?
Do you see a basis for that, given the facts of the case?
Well, he has.
He actually has.
I'll put aside the pornographic element of all of this, which is horrendous.
But as a technical matter, and I don't want to hack in the weeds, I think he may have a stronger basis for an appeal of the racketeering conviction, because essential to establishing a racketeering conviction are a few elements.
But in order to do that, you as the government have to show that the victim was damaged in his or her business or property.
And it seems to me from the start, a glaring omission here has been the lack of an impact.
Well, I don't doubt the suffering of these young women and now grown women.
This is an interesting point that he's about to bring up here, guys.
So let's brace ourselves for this one.
Also, I got to stop it so that no get hit with any type of copyright from CBS.
CBS does a lot of things wrong, but when they interview people like this, this is when it can be a little bit better because at least like they're bringing in someone that's like an expert and he can give an opinion.
And this guy, he's pretty accurate with what he's saying, you know, as a defense attorney.
But significantly omitted from the proof was what were the money damages sustained by the victims.
And Kelly may have a fairly strong argument along those lines, in which case the substance.
And what he means by that, guys, is you need to be able to articulate damages that you had.
So, like, for example, when they indicted the mafia, right?
And they were able to get them for loan sharking and extortion, all the other stuff.
They were able to establish from witnesses and businesses and all these other entities: yo, the mafia ripped me off for $10,000 every month.
I had to pay them in extortion fees, or they were running gambling rackets where they were making this amount of money, or they were loan sharking me this amount of money, which loan sharking is basically giving you a loan on an extremely high interest rate, you know, maybe 50%, lend you a thousand.
All right, motherfucker, if you don't bring my fucking money by tomorrow, you're gonna be sleeping with the fishes, 50% interest household, like some type of shit like that, right?
Um, so it's all tangible because it's related to money.
In this situation, it's a little bit more ambiguous because he's bringing girls in, banging them under the potential, you know, the potential that they'll be his girlfriend or maybe get a record deal or whatever.
It's it's extremely unclear where the damages are with them.
Obviously, there's emotional damage, right?
Of course, right, as you would say, Chris's favorite sound effect emotional damage, but it's very difficult to be able to articulate that in a tangible fashion.
Okay, that does not mean that the victims are less credible.
That does not mean that the victims did not deal with trauma.
It's just very difficult to judge that from the RICO perspective.
Because with the RICO charts, a lot of the times you need to establish damages.
And a lot of the time, that comes from some type of monetary amount.
That's why it was so easy to go after the mafia because when they were running the labor rackets and everything else like that, they were able to easily show that the mafia was making this amount of money.
They're extorting this amount.
They were loan sharking on this amount of interest, this amount of much money, blah, blah, blah, all that other stuff.
Because with the mafia, the money had to be made.
Once the money was made, it would be kicked up to the boss, under boss, all the way up to the top guy.
And there was a money chain, right?
But here, with this situation, it's not as clear-cut and defined.
Substance wouldn't be reversed, but the case might well be sent back for the government to have another try at establishing that critical element of loss, of monetary or financial loss.
All right, Paul Patista, if you could stand by for one moment, we also want to bring in CBS News National Correspondent Rican.
Okay, so we're going to go ahead and read the DOJ press release here, guys.
Okay.
So, R. Kelly convicted of all counts by a federal grand jury, by a federal jury in Brooklyn.
Just so you guys know, by the way, anytime that you are looking up a federal case, you want to get a check out a federal case, whatever it may be, always come to the usdoj.gov website.
As you guys can see, this is the official joint because it's justice.gov.
Okay, this is the U.S. attorney's website.
Each district, and this is the Eastern District of New York, which is in Brooklyn.
Okay, you got the Southern District of New York, which we've talked about them quite a bit, one of the most aggressive judicial districts in the United States.
And then you got the Eastern District of New York, which is in Brooklyn.
The Southern District of New York is in basic Manhattan.
All right.
Kelly found guilty of racketeering and multiple predicate acts, including illegal sex with minors, sex exploitation of minors, bribery, coercion, and forced labor.
Robert Sylvester Kelly, which I didn't know.
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Matter of fact, an agent that I used to work with that was my supervisor, he's actually going to be involved in that case.
So, and as you guys know, I started my career in Laredo, Texas.
Pretty much when I was doing those human smuggling cases in Laredo, guys, the aliens almost always were going to San Antonio.
So I have a very deep, intimate knowledge of how human smuggling works in that area of the United States.
And this is not the first time that I've seen a tractor trailer.
Back in 2016, when I was in Laredo, Texas, we had another case where we had like 70 of them in a tractor trailer and a bunch of them died, even more of them died.
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Um, and just so you guys know, by the way, it was not the FBI that arrested R. Kelly, it was actually Homeland Security Investigations, which is the agency that I used to work for.
Yes, they investigate sex trafficking as well, guys.
All right.
Um, this was not an FBI case.
I want to be extremely clear about that, and you guys are going to see that here in a second.
So, let's go back to the press release.
Um, from the DOJ, okay, uh, was convicted today by our RB singer R. Kelly was convicted today by a federal grand jury in Brooklyn of all nine counts of superseding indictment charging him with racketeering predicated on criminal conduct,
including sexual exploitation of children, forced labor, and the Man Act violations involving the coercion and transportation of women and girls in interstate commerce engaging to engage in sexual activity and illegal sexual activity.
The verdict followed six weeks of trial before United States District Judge Ann M. Donnelly.
So, guys, just so you guys know, for some of you guys that are wondering, yo, why did how were the feds able to pick this shit up?
The reason why, guys, is because the violations involving the coercion and transportation of women and girls in interstate commerce.
See this magic word here, guys?
Interstate commerce, right?
This is your worst nightmare as a criminal, right here.
This is what gives the feds jurisdiction to go ahead and take over these types of investigations.
Once he started using the phone to get girls to come and hang out with him, or you know, using people to recruit the girls or whatever, and having them travel state lines and everything else like that, boom, now the feds can come in and uh do the investigation.
And we know when the feds come, it's going to be a bad time for you, more than likely.
All right, um, Jacqueline Cassoulis, acting United States attorney for the Eastern District of New York.
So, that's the top prosecutor, all right.
And Peter C. Fitzberg, special agent charge online security investigations, New York, announced the verdict.
See, so how do I remember, guys?
I always teach you guys this: when you come over to the to the um, to the main thing on usdoj.gov and you're reading these articles, always look at like who it doesn't matter who the U.S. attorney is because like every jurisdiction has a U.S. attorney.
But to figure out which agency actually did the investigation, it's the first person that makes the announcement.
So, in this case, it was HSI New York that did the case.
These are the same guys that did the 6ix9ine case as well, HSI New York.
And then today's guilty verdict forever brands R. Kelly as a predator who used his fame and fortune to prey on the young, the vulnerable, and the voiceless for his own sexual gratification, stating, uh, stated acting U.S. attorney Cassoulis, a predator who used his inner circle to ensnare underage teenage girls and young women and men for decades in a sordid web of sexual abuse, exploitation, and degradation.
Yes, he did actually abuse a man as well, a boy, allegedly, guys, uh, according to the indictment in the trial.
The victims in this case, your voices were heard, and justice was finally served.
We hope that today's verdict brings some measure of comfort and closure to the victims.
Ms. Kusulis also thanked U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Illinois and the Cook County State Attorney's Office for their assurance assistance with the case.
Remember, guys, they had all the original documents.
As proven at trial for nearly three decades, Kelly was the leader of criminal enterprise of a criminal enterprise, the enterprise, consisting of himself and an entourage of individuals who served as managers, bodyguards, accountants, drivers, personal sentence, assistants, and runners for the defendant.
As a leader of the enterprise, Kelly used his fame to recruit women and girls to engage in illegal sexual activity with him.
Kelly identified these girls and women at concerts and then directed members of the enterprise to escort them backstage following his musical performances.
Kelly exchanged contact information with girls and women so that he and other members of the enterprise could arrange travel and lodging for them to visit Kelly and engage in the charged illegal sexual conduct.
See, this is where Kelly up right here.
This is what all music artists do, by the way, guys.
Fucking any big music artists that you know, this is what they do.
They don't go up to the girl themselves and talk to them.
They always get their member of their entourage to go and talk to the girl for them.
Hey, you want to come backstage?
You want to chill?
Whatever it may be.
And this is to protect, you know, the artist from, you know, looking thirsty or anything like that, right?
Protect this image.
However, where Kelly fucked up here was he was doing this shit with underage fucking girls, man.
Now, a lot of these girls, he would promise the parents that he would go ahead and help them with their music career, make them famous, get them some exposure, whatever it is.
And that's where he fucked up.
If these were of age women, he would have been fine.
But he had to do it with young girls, which is why he's suffering the consequences that he's facing now.
The evidence at trial included the testimony of 45 government witnesses.
Gotcha, bitch.
Like, holy including more than 10 victims, five of whom are named in the superseding indictment.
Not to mention, guys, the government had a bunch of people that were on his staff that testified against him.
OK, people that work for him, his own family, his accountant, all these people testified against Kelly that he was basically running an organization to conceal his criminal activity, which is why they were able to come at him for the racketeering and saying it was an enterprise.
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So text messages, video and audio recordings, photographs, phone and travel records, DNA evidence and expert witnesses.
Kelly issued rules that many of his sexual partners were required to follow, including that the women and girls were to call him daddy.
They were not permitted to leave their homes or their rooms to eat or visit the bathroom without receiving his permission.
They were required to wear baggy clothes when not accompanying Kelly to an event, and they were directed to keep their heads down and not look at or speak to other men.
Kelly also isolated the women and girls from their friends and family and made them dependent on him for their financial well-being.
He required the victims to engage in sex with him and others and recorded many of the sexual encounters.
Fucking holy shit.
Stupid.
So here are the charges, guys.
And what I'm going to do is I'm going to pull up this indictment for you guys real fast.
But we're going to read it from the DOJ thing because it outlines a lot clearer.
But I'm going to just for educational purposes, I'm going to show you guys what a federal indictment looks like.
So this is out of the Eastern United States District Court, Eastern District of New York, United States of America against R. Kelly.
Now, the Enterprise, the defendant, Robert Sylvester Kelly, also known as R. Kelly, and individuals who served as managers, bodyguards, drivers, and personal assistants and runners for Kelly, as well as members of Kelly's entourage, comprised, and enterprise.
Now, why the hell are they referring to R. Kelly's organization as an enterprise?
The reason why they're referring to it as an enterprise, guys, is because this is critical for racketeering statutes.
Remember, they're not necessarily just charging him with sex trafficking.
They're charging him with sex trafficking under the premise that it's under RICO, okay, the racketeering act, okay?
The enterprise consisted of an ongoing organization whose members function as a continuing unit for a common purpose of achieving the objectives of the enterprise, okay?
The purpose of the enterprise were to promote R. Kelly's music and the R. Kelly brand and to recruit women and girls to engage in legal sexual activity with Kelly.
But it promotes R. Kelly's music and the R. Kelly brand.
The members of the enterprise expected to receive financial opportunities and personal benefits, including increased power and status within the enterprise, okay?
So like I told you all before, he promised he sold these girls a dream.
And in connection with the enterprise, Kelly and other members of the enterprise traveled throughout the United States and abroad to perform at concert venues to promote the R. Kelly brand and to recruit women and girls to engage.
In sexual activity with Kelly.
Bam, right there is how the feds got him.
He was using, right, the girls and traveling interstate and doing all this extra shit.
And that's what gave the feds jurisdiction.
When Kelly attended and performed at concerts and other events, Kelly and or members of the enterprise on Kelly's behalf invited women and girls backstage and to other events following Kelly's live performances.
Let me enlarge this for y'all a little bit so you guys can see it better on your TV screens.
These women and girls were often offered wristbands that signified that they were authorized to attend an event.
There, Kelly relied upon members of the enterprise to ensure that only those authorized to attend were allowed at the event and to manage the flow of women and girls who were directly interacting with Kelly.
When Kelly identified a woman or a girl who he wished to see again, he either gave his contact information to the woman or girl or obtained her contact information or relied upon members of the enterprise to do so.
Well, I don't know.
Following these events, Kelly communicated with certain of these women and girls by telephone, including the use of traditional telephone calls, text messages, eye messages, and FaceTime.
As part of this communication, Kelly often requested that the girls, that the women and girls provide them with photographs of themselves.
Okay.
Again, guys, when you use phones, text messages, FaceTime, all that stuff, what does it do?
It triggers interstate commerce.
Gotcha, bitch.
Kelly and other members of the enterprise also arranged for the women and girls to travel to see Kelly on occasion, including at concerts throughout the United States and related events.
To facilitate their travel, Kelly directed the women and girls to contact a member of the enterprise who then arranged for travel for the women and girls.
When the women and girls arrived at the lodging, which was typically selected by a member of the enterprise, a member of the enterprise usually provided them with instructions.
In addition, members of the enterprise took steps to ensure that the women and girls did not interact with other women and girls whom Kelly planned to see.
So, guys, let's also deal with this elephant in the room.
A big part of the reason why a lot of these people cooperated with the government was to not be prosecuted themselves for assisting R. Kelly in doing these criminal activities.
Okay.
So they cooperated with the government to avoid prosecution as well.
You know, we got to call a spade a fucking spade.
Members of the enterprise then arranged for the women and girls to attend his concerts and position them such that Kelly could see them during his concerts.
Kelly, and you guys are wondering, well, why are they putting all this stuff in this indictment?
The reason, guys, is because they're establishing that it's an enterprise step one, and then step two, that the enterprise affects interstate commerce.
That's why they're talking about using phones.
That's why they're talking about travel.
That's why they're talking about him providing them lodging.
That's why they're talking about members of the enterprise giving them instructions.
All this, okay, creates a picture that we have a sophisticated criminal organization that is committing criminal activity while simultaneously, okay, affecting interstate commerce, which now gives the feds jurisdiction.
So the beginning part of this indictment is giving the feds venue.
Okay.
In addition, members of the enterprise took steps to ensure that the women and girls did not interact with other women and girls whom Kelly planned to see.
Members of the enterprise then arranged for the women and girls to attend his concert and position them such that Kelly could see them during his concerts.
Okay, also, I want to mention this part right here.
This is very important, okay, guys, because the girls all gave very similar testimonies and stories, even though they don't necessarily know each other, which actually made Kelly look a lot more guilty.
Because if you got a bunch of girls from different places and they're all giving a very similar story, right?
Hey, I wasn't permitted to eat at this time, or he made me call him daddy, or he made me do this, or whatever.
And a bunch of girls are able to corroborate the same set of facts without knowing each other.
What does that do?
That, my friends, is a clue that more than likely your witnesses are telling the truth.
When I had a confidential informants, right, you can't necessarily go off of a confidential informant's word alone.
You need to be able to corroborate it.
So, what I would do, right, when I was in witnesses, cooperating defendants, confidential informants, they're all the same because they're providing you information, okay?
However, when you're getting this information, you have to be able to corroborate it through other people.
So, it would be common where I would interview a confidential informant, I would debrief him.
Then, after I debrief him, I would talk with law enforcement officers.
I would talk with other witnesses.
I would talk with the criminal himself sometimes, etc.
And they would confirm certain things that the informant would say or other witnesses would say.
And what you do is you extrapolate, okay, the truth from all these separate interviews from separate people that don't necessarily know each other.
Okay, that is how you build credibility in witnesses, informants, and cooperating defendants.
You never get the story just from them.
You get the story from multiple people and that they're able to confirm certain facts, okay, that all of them experienced or saw themselves.
That adds another layer of credibility to that person's testimony, okay?
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So that more people could watch the watch the video, learn, understand federal law, understand how sex trafficking works, how racketeering works, et cetera.
Okay, and then they start going in facts here with how the girls weren't allowed to do certain things.
So means and methods of the enterprise.
So let's go ahead and go back to the USDOJ article.
I just wanted to show you guys how the feds were able to establish venue.
Okay.
And this is a, well, I think this one is a 27-page indictment.
Yeah, 17-page.
Okay.
And they superseded, they did several superseding indictments, guys, which basically means they charge him once, and then they get more evidence, charge him again, give a super, and that's a superseding indictment where it overrides the one before because they got new charges.
And I think they did like three superseding indictments on this guy.
Okay.
So racketeering on Act 1, bribery.
Kelly bribed a state employee to create an identification card for Jane Doe, number one, then 15 years old, so that Kelly could marry Jane Doe number one because he believed she was pregnant and therefore their marriage can keep him out of jail.
Who are they talking about here, guys?
They're talking about, let's see if the chat can get it.
Who are they talking about here, guys?
See if y'all were paying attention earlier.
What are they talking about?
And the winner is ASSEC.
I think he was the first one to have it.
A bunch of y'all saying Aaliyah.
Bam.
There we go.
And we showed you guys the marriage certificate earlier.
So, yeah.
Racketeering Acts 2, 7, and 10, sexual exploitation of a child, Jane Doe.
And some of you guys are probably wondering, what is bribery?
Bribery is essentially when you're paying someone to do something, to overlook something or to commit criminal activity against their position.
Typically, they're in a trusted position and you're paying them to not do what they're supposed to do.
Okay, that's like a very layman's terms way of putting it for you guys.
Racketeering Acts 2, 7, and 10, sex exploitation of a child, Jane Doe, number 2, Jane Doe number 4, and Jane Doe number 5.
You guys are probably wondering why the fuck are they using Jane Doe's?
The reason why, guys, is because the girls were underage at the time of the criminal activity.
And a lot of times to protect the victim's identity, they just call them Jane Doe, just like a John Doe.
Kelly caused Jane Doe number two, Jane Doe number four, and Jane Doe number five to engage in sexually explicit conduct for the purpose of producing video recordings.
Over the course of decades, he made these recordings and other recordings of sexually explicit conduct using VHS video cameras, Canon and camcorders, iPhones, and iPads.
Holy fuck, this guy, bro.
This fucking.
My man was using VHS video cameras, them big ass joints.
Oh, it was a long time ago.
God damn.
Racketeering Acts 11 and 13, forced labor.
Kelly used a threat of physical harm and physical restraint to ensure that his victims, including Jane Doe number four, Jane Doe number five, and Jane Doe number six, perform sexually at his command.
So these three witnesses right here, Jane 4, 5, and 6, are probably the government's best witnesses.
What is probably what it looks like to me because I'm noticing a trend here that a bunch that they're in a couple of the different counts.
As to Jane Doe number four, he slapped her, choked her, and spit on her before demanding she give him oral sex.
As to Jane Doe number five, over a period of years, he spanked her, viciously assaulted her, confined her for periods of days, and otherwise manipulated her to ensure that she would perform for him sexually, including with other women and a man.
As to Jane Doe number six, he forced her to give him oral sex.
When he did that, there was a gun within Kelly's reach.
Oh, shit.
God damn.
Between May 2009 and January 2010, Kelly regularly spoke with Jane Doe number four over the telephone to arrange for Jane Doe number four to come to his residence in Olympia Fields for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, which was illegal because Jane Doe 4 was too young to consent to sex in Illinois.
Okay.
Similarly, between September 2015 and October 2015, Kelly transported Jane Doe number five, who was then 17 years old from New York City to Oakland, California for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, and she was too young to consent to sex in California.
So see how they got him here, guys?
Now, you guys are probably wondering, well, wait, hold on.
What do you mean by this, Myron?
So guys, other states have ages of consent when it comes to sex.
So I'll give you an example, right?
So in this case, we got Illinois and California, right?
So let's go ahead and also do this, guys, depending on the state that you're in, right?
My general rule of thumb is don't fuck with no girl that's under 18.
Don't fucking do it.
But there are states out there, right, that have lower ages of consent.
Okay, so age of consent, let's say California, okay, 18.
And then we're going to go age of consent, Illinois, 17.
And age of consent, let's say another big state, Texas.
I think, right, 17 in Texas.
Yep.
And then I think some of the one of the lowest ones is Kentucky.
Kentucky?
16.
Than was it or was it Kansas?
Which is crazy to me.
Just guys, only fuck with 18-year-olds, bro.
But yeah, some of these states have lower ages of consent.
And also, keep in mind, also, just because it's the age of consent, guys, you also got to play into the fact that like the distance between the man and the woman change.
Okay.
Like you can own that, you know, there's Romeo and Juliet laws, which basically allow for a certain amount of years in between the two parties.
So just deal with girls that are 18, bro, and above.
Don't fucking risk it, guys.
Like, if you take one thing from this podcast, man, just fuck with girls that are 18 and above, bro.
Don't, don't, like, you know, can you potentially, you know, deal with a girl that's younger if your state has a lower age of consent and then you're young enough to, you know, maybe fall within the Romeo and Juliet guidelines.
Yes.
But guys, don't fucking do it, bro.
Age difference is real.
Okay.
It ain't worth it.
right um racketeering acts 8 13 and 14 man act violations Jane O. So, okay, let's look at the Man Act right real quick.
Okay.
It's it's the Man Act, also known as the White Slave Traffic Act of 1910, is a federal law that criminalizes transportation to any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery or for any other immoral purpose.
So it was passed in June 1910 and named after Illinois Congressman James R. Mann invoked in the Commerce Clause to felonize the use of interstate or foreign commerce to transport women for immoral purposes.
The act was aimed at prostitution, immorality, and human trafficking.
Congress appointed a commission of in 1907 to investigate into the problem of immigrant prostitutes.
It was alleged that immigrant women were brought to America for sexual slavery and immigrant men lured American girls into prostitution or white slavery.
The committees believed that no girl would enter prostitution unless drugged or held captive.
This led to public outrage, which eventually resulted in the enactment of the man act.
So here's the thing.
Now, does every pimp get charged with the man act, guys?
No, because a lot of the times they're able to establish that the girls wanted to be prostitutes, which is why human trafficking is very difficult to prove, guys.
It actually is.
However, it's easy to prove human trafficking if the girl is underage, okay?
Which is what the government was able to do in R. Kelly's case.
If these girls were of age, he probably wouldn't have been getting hit with his heart of the charge that he's getting hit now.
But since he was a fucking dummy and wanted to deal with girls that were young and, you know, be on this risky type shit, that's why they were able to hit him with the Man Act because the girls can't consent, guys.
Even if they consented at the time or they didn't feel like they were being prostitutes or maybe they didn't feel like they were being used or whatever, they not old enough to consent.
So bam, now the man act pretty much attaches itself to the criminal activity automatically.
However, if you're like a pimp and you got like 20 girls that work underneath you and they're all 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, whatever the hell it is, right?
And you're pimping them out, literally pimping them out.
However, the girls are all of age and they're like, hey, listen, I know my pimp, you know, beats me and all this other shit and, you know, whatever, but I wanted to be a prostitute.
You know, it's not forced, which a lot of the time is the case with these prostitution rings.
The girls aren't forced.
They want to be prostitutes.
You can't necessarily hit them with the Man Act, okay?
It's much more difficult to prove.
Can you still hit them with it?
Potentially, but it's more difficult to prove.
That's why the Man Act works so well with underage girls because they can't consent.
Since they can't consent, it don't matter if they personally themselves consented.
You can't legally consent because you're not old enough.
All right.
So age ain't nothing but a number.
No, age matters, guys.
All right.
Age definitely matters.
Racketeering Acts 8, 13, and 14, Man Act violations.
In April 2015, Kelly arranged for Jane Doe number five to fly from her home in Orlando, Florida to Los Angeles, California for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, which was illegal because Kelly knew he had an incurable sexually transmitted disease and did not inform Jane Doe number five about the STD prior to engaging in sexual intercourse with her.
Holy, bro.
In May of 2017 and again in February of 2018, Kelly arranged for Jane Doe number six to fly from her home in San Antonio, Texas to LaGuardia Airport in Queens, New York for the purpose of illegal sexual activity, which again was illegal because Kelly failed to disclose that he had an incurable STD and obtained J. Doe number six's consent to engage in sexual intercourse under those circumstances.
so yes um he got he ended up getting 30 years for this guys So here is his judgment, which we're going to go over real quick with y'all.
So a judgment, guys, is basically when the government hands down your charge against you.
Before I pull up the judgment, can we go ahead and get Denise?
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Even if the girl is old enough to consent, they could still charge you with corruption of a minor.
I don't know.
I'm not aware of a federal statute for that, my friend.
Might be a state thing.
But I'm not, hey, you could be right.
I don't know.
Let's see here.
Anything else?
I think that was it.
That was it.
Okay.
Guys like the video.
All right.
So here's the judgment here, guys, that I have right now for R. Kelly.
And if you guys want me to show you how I found these documents, give me a one in the chat if you guys want me to teach you how to use PACER again.
I've done it before in the past, but give me a one in the chat if you want me to show you guys.
A two in the chat if you guys don't want me to, if you already know.
If you already know, then no big deal.
Before I read this thing.
111.
Okay, one.
So why did R. Kelly get 30 years?
Good question.
The reason why is because they got him under racketeering and he took it to trial.
That is why he did more time.
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Okay.
It looks like mostly ones.
Okay, let me go over this judgment first and I'll show you guys how I came to find this judgment.
All right.
So here's the judgment, guys.
And this is after he was convicted by the jury.
So here's what he was convicted of.
Racketeering, okay?
18 USC 1962 CN 1963, which if you guys have been watching this podcast, you guys already are familiar with these statutes.
Then they also got him with Man Act Transportation Jane Doe 5, which is one of them, okay, which happened on October 30th, 2015.
And that was 18 USC 242.
All right.
And here's the judge right here signing the judgments.
All right.
And then these are all the charges that they hit him and additional counts of conviction.
Man Act coercion and enticement.
Man act coercion of a minor.
Man Act transportation of a minor.
Man Act transportation Jane Doe 6.
Man Act coercion and enticement.
Man Act transportation.
Man Act coercion and enticement.
If you guys look here, these were all fairly recent, these charges.
So why were they able to bring up all these old things from the 90s?
Well, like I told you guys before, they were able to establish that there was a pattern of racketeering activity for 30 years.
Okay, so that's how they're able to get around statute limitations and use older shit to show a pattern of activity.
So the defendant is hereby committed to the custody of the federal Bureau of Prisons to be in prison for a total term of 360 months on count one, 10 years, on counts two, six, and eight, 20 years, and on counts three, four, five, seven, and nine, all counts to run concurrently, okay?
Which luckily for him, it's concurrently, which means they all run at the same time.
Otherwise, he would have had to have way more time.
So these are the standards and conditions of supervision.
Okay.
So you can get five years, special conditions of supervision, criminal monetary penalties.
He's got to pay $100,000 in restitution or a fine, sorry, $100,000 in fines.
Okay.
Schedule of payments.
He owes $900 immediately.
Okay.
And this is his judgment, gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen.
So you guys are probably wondering, how did I come across and find these documents?
Well, so I'm going to go ahead and show you guys how to do this.
So you're going to go into Google, right?
And I want you guys to make life easier.
You're going to go Eastern District, right?
So the important thing is to figure out what district the guy is being charged in, right?
Or the person that you're looking to look up.
Eastern District of New York, Acer.
And you're going to come here.
You're going to go in, right?
Then you're going to click log into CMECF.
Bam.
And I'm in.
Normally, they're going to ask you to log in, guys, as far as like your username and password, but I'm already logged in.
So I'm going to go ahead, which we skip a step, but you guys get it.
Make your username and password.
Oh, see, it's asking me to log in again.
Now I'm in, right?
You're going to hit query.
Once you hit query, we're going to go ahead and type in Kelly.
Last name, Burt's name, Roberts.
Okay, we know the middle name here, Sylvester, but just for easy purposes, we're going to do it off first name and last name.
Now, this is a fairly common name.
So, look at all the people that come back, but we know his middle name.
So, here we go: Kelly Robert Sylvester, defendant.
Oh, looks like the plaintiff.
Oh, you know, this is, I think, that when he uh he's suing the DOC, I think.
Let's look at this one.
Who is he?
Yeah, yeah, this is uh, look, they just filed this July 1st.
Um, this R. Kelly is suing the warden Hariberto H. Telles, um, and they're basically suing them.
And this is the complaint that they because he said that they got him on Suicide Watch.
So, this case just literally got filed.
This is what I was telling you earlier.
And you can find civil lawsuits in here, too.
But let's go back to the criminal case.
We don't like to deviate too much from what we're doing, right?
So, you're going to go.
Here he is as a defendant.
So, here's him as a plaintiff.
So, you know, that's a civil case.
Here he is as a defendant.
Click it, and then bam, USA versus Kelly.
So, they got two different ones here.
It doesn't matter, guys.
It's going to say, so just so you know, first it goes 119.
That's the year.
CR means criminal.
This is the actual case number.
And then AMD, which probably is going to, because Eastern District in New York, that's like the identifier, right?
Or no, sorry, AMD is the judge.
That's the judge's name.
There's which is Anne McMcDonnell.
So you're going to go ahead and click.
It doesn't matter.
Either one works.
USA versus Kelly.
Open it up.
And then you're going to hit docket report.
Okay.
Then once you go into docker report, you're going to hit run report here.
And then you're just going to go as initially requested.
Since this was a big case, they're not sure if you want to go for the past week or everything.
I'm just going to go off everything because they charge you like 10 cents per page.
That's why they're asking you that.
You know, I don't give a fuck, though.
You know, we invest back in the business.
Okay.
So as you guys can see, and then they show you the defendant.
Bam, here he is, R. Kelly.
Here's his legal team, right?
All of them.
He had a big legal time team.
Okay.
And then here's his charges.
And since he got actually convicted in trial, they actually put here what the disposition is: 360 months, right?
And all these charges, 360 months, but he got lucky because they're all going to run concurrently, which means they're all going to run at the same time versus consecutively.
That would suck because you'd have to do 30 years and another 30 years and another 30 years.
Okay.
So he's going to be out when he's in his 80s, guys.
I think R. Kelly's around 55, 56.
So here you go.
Here's a sealed indictment.
Here's another superseding indictment.
Then you can look through all these court documents.
Okay.
And this is what I go through every time for you guys.
I read through all this stuff for y'all before we prepare for a case.
Go through all this.
Okay.
And then that was a judgment that I pulled for you guys earlier, the very one I just read.
You click it, right?
Just so we can go all the way here and show you guys how this works.
You're going to hit here, view document, and then bam, it comes right up.
Cool.
So that is how, my friends, you find stuff on Pacer.
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So where are we at here?
So we talked about that.
And then there was one something else I was going to show you guys.
So I'll stop the screen share for a sec.
Give me ones in the chat if you guys are enjoying this breakdown.
Give me a two in the chat if you guys, if you guys don't like it.
One is in the chat.
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I could take the constructive criticism.
Don't worry, I promise.
I really, I really do be like looking at a lot of the criticisms, man.
It's all dude, you got to get out your feelings sometimes and look at the stuff for what it is.
And, you know, it makes you better.
I take a lot of the criticisms and I'm like, you know what?
Let me make the content better.
Where the hell are the windows that I had?
Nope.
A lot of ones.
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I appreciate you guys supporting.
Okay, so I know some of you guys probably want it, want that interview that he did with Gail Knight on, I think, CBS.
So let's go ahead and pull this bad boy up real quick for y'all.
All right, Kelly interview.
And we'll just get the craziest parts.
And then I'm going to go ahead and share a screen with y'all.
I am surprised that you agreed to do it.
Why are you sitting down with us today?
I'm very tired of all of the lies.
And I ain't going to lie.
It is crazy that he went and did an interview with them in the middle of a criminal case.
This, I don't know who his publicist or his defense attorney is.
This was not a good move, in my opinion.
You don't want to say anything, but I get it.
He hadn't been saying, he hadn't said anything for decades when these accusations came out.
So, to his credit, guys, this is the first time, okay, that he actually spoke on these charges to the mainstream media.
I've been hearing things and you know, and seeing things on the blogs, and you know, I'm just tired.
What are the lies that you're hearing that disturb you most?
Oh my god.
Um, so he's gonna go over the things that piss him off the most when it comes to what the girls were accusing.
All right, and this interview was back in March of 2019, so he was in the middle of like pretty much or right before he got indicted and arrested.
All of them got little girls trapped in the basement, helicopters over my house, um, trying to um rescue someone that doesn't need rescuing because they're not in my house, handcuffing people, starving people.
I have a harem, uh, what you call it, a um, a cult.
I don't even really know what a cult is, but come on, R. Kelly, you know what a cult is, my man.
Come on, bro.
You're you're you're uh, one of the best RB artists of all time, bro.
You got you know what a cult is because there's a bunch of people that support R. Kelly, even through all the allegations.
You know, hey, man, you're free to support what you want.
You know, he, the guy made it's undisputed that his music, you know, touched a lot of people, and he's a fantastic musician.
And he's a musical genius, but fucking making dumbass decisions when it comes to women.
I know I don't have one, you know.
Have you done anything that you regret?
Have you done anything wrong?
Lots of things wrong when it comes to women that I apologize, but I apologize in those relationships at the time.
I was in the relationships, and broken any laws when it comes to women.
Well, the tough questions are coming now.
Uh, super chat real quick, 10 bucks.
Uh, damn, he even sounds like a creepy kitty finie fiddler.
The Six Park series interviewed, and I love the fucking little picture of like me pointing at the camera and say, Yo, the super chats, real quick.
Oh, you guys are hilarious.
50 people, family members, your former tour manager, numerous women who all claim that you abused them.
Are you saying everybody in that documentary was not telling the truth about you?
Everybody, if, if, if you really look at that documentary, which I'm sure you have, W for Tits McGee, yeah, everybody said something bad about me, nobody said nothing good.
They was describing Lucifer.
I'm not Lucifer, I'm a man.
I make mistakes.
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Imagine being flued out by a celebrity just to get burnt.
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This fucking guy, but I'm not a devil.
And by no means am I a monster?
I'm going to name the names: Andrea Kelly, your ex-wife, Kitty Jones, Lisa Van Allen, Lizette Martinez, Jaronda Pace, Faith Rogers, Asante McGee.
You're saying everything they said in that documentary about you is not true.
The rat who plays the dang again, Ron Pa.
Evening past my SI.
When are you dropping the hiring process video?
Second chat, by the way.
Dude, you're on your way, my friend.
You don't even need the video.
Keep going.
You're going to be fine.
Okay.
Not true.
They are lying on me.
Why would these women say the same thing about you that you are controlling, that you are abusive, that you tell women when to eat, when to go to the bathroom, when they can sleep, where they can dress?
Why would all these women tell these different stories about you if they were not true?
And they don't know each other.
That's a very good question, which I established with you guys before.
NBA DeCalli says five bucks.
I don't see nothing wrong with a little like of this video.
You guys like the fucking video, man.
You guys are killing me with the fucking songs and making it funny.
You guys are fucking killing me here.
That defines logic to me.
Right, right.
Until you hear the explanation.
You can start a rumor on a guy like me or a celebrity just like that.
All you have to do is push a button on your phone and say, so-and-so did this to me.
R. Kelly did this to me.
And if you get any traction from that, if you, if you're able to write a book from that, if you're able to get a reality show, then any girl that I had a relationship in the past that it just didn't work out, she can come and say the same exact thing.
Are you blaming this on social?
This is true.
He has a point there.
This happens all the time.
You know, girls will make accusations, you know, potentially for make money, get certain opportunities given to them, whatever it may be.
This is true.
But again, these girls were underage.
Robert, what the fuck are you doing, man?
You know what I mean?
It's pretty much at this point undisputed that the women were underage when they were fucking with you, bro.
And that's the problem here.
You know, 90% of the problems here would have probably been avoided if these women were of age.
Social media.
I'm talking about the power of social media.
Have you ever had sex?
Oh, go ahead.
Anyone under the age of 70?
No.
Never.
No.
I have to tell you.
Stop the cap.
It's so hard to believe that based on all that we've read.
I'm going to tell you something, Gail.
There's one of you.
What the women said about you.
What women said about me?
What women?
So nobody's allowed to be mad at me and be scoring and loud me.
So they're lying on you.
That's your explanation.
They're lying on you.
Absolutely.
You feel that people...
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Jay with the snub, 10 bucks, Myron.
What's your favorite R. Kelly song, or did you ever have one?
Damn.
That's a good question.
Let me get back to you.
I'm going to think of all the.
He made so many hits, man.
Can you please do a Draco the Ruler case?
Shout out to you, Myron.
And that's from Don X Venn.
Yes, I can't cover that.
I need to get some stuff together for it.
They haven't caught the killers yet, if I'm not mistaken.
I'm not sure.
Shout out to my guy, Trap Laura Ross.
He did a whole breakdown on it.
I'm going to go check it out and get back to you guys on that one.
Jay with the snub, Myron.
What's your favorite R Kelly song?
Okay, I'll get back to you on that one.
We have 24.
My mind is telling me no, but my body, my body is telling me like, like the fucking video, guys.
I love that.
Especially for these creative ass super chats.
Shout out to y'all, man.
We got Stanley Frederick, five bucks.
Hey, Myron, can you do the Sean Watson case?
Because the NFL is trying to suspend him over an allegation that he didn't get found guilty of.
Well, here's the thing you guys got to remember, bro.
The NFL, college campuses, all these private entities, they reserve the right to cancel you for anything, bro.
This is a clown world that we're in.
Even if you get acquitted in a court of law, they could still come after you on some other miscellaneous technicality stuff, man.
So that's the world that we're in.
NBA DeCalli, his real downfall is he couldn't keep it on the down low because nobody had to know.
Yo, you guys, it looks like we got a lot of R. Kelly fans in the house that like listen to this music, bro.
Bobby La Pose, I would like you to do the Central Park 5 case and get your perspective on Eric Reynolds, one of the arresting officers in that case.
I am aware of the Central Park 5 case.
I did watch the Netflix show on that.
If I have time, I will.
That one's old, though.
Five-star sport betting, five bucks from Canada, super sticker.
Thank you so much.
And then anything else here?
Michael Mistro saying, hit the damn like button.
Yeah, guys, please like the video, man.
Well, Maligned.
I have been assassinated.
I have been buried alive.
But I'm alive.
So I think the point you're making is, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you have never held anybody against their will.
I don't need to.
Pull up that chat again.
Why would I?
Well, I'm how stupid would never help R. Kelly with all I've been through in my way, way past to hold somebody, let alone four or five.
Rory F. Goes five bucks.
He loves them golden showers, but now he's getting the God, the golden stream of justice, you fucking guys, bro.
Ha ha!
High 650, you said what?
How stupid would I be to do that?
I didn't say stupid, guys.
I didn't this camera on me.
Yes, that's stupid.
Use your common sense.
Don't forget the blogs.
Forget how you feel about me.
Hate me if you want to.
Love me if you want, but just use your common sense.
How stupid would it be for me to with my crazy past and what I've been through?
Oh, right now I just think I need to be a monster and hold girls against their will, chain them up in my basement and don't let them eat and don't let them out unless they need some shoes down the street from their uncle.
I don't get that.
What the fuck?
I think that's one of the witnesses said that.
Like he let me go to get shoes from my uncle.
Oh, okay.
That's why he said that's true.
I remember something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stop it.
Y'all quit playing.
Quit playing.
I didn't do this stuff.
This is not me.
I'm fighting for my life.
Y'all killing me with this.
I can't help 30 years.
Robert.
I'm trying to have a relationship with my kids and I can't do it.
I thought he was going to sing right there.
I'll try to have a relationship with my kids and I can't do it.
And I thought he was going to like just bust it to like hit the start singing.
I was like, oh, shit.
With his long songs.
Yeah.
Just don't want to believe the truth.
You don't want to believe it.
At this point, we briefly pause the interview to give Kelly a moment.
Even his man got a smile off.
Look at this nigga face, bro.
Like, what the hell?
Let's see if we get this at better quality here.
Oh, God damn it.
And guys, the reason why I'm using this video and not like the original is because I don't want to get hit with copyright.
You can see that the person that took the video, like, cut it off a little bit.
And, and, you know, hopefully we don't get hit with the copyright here.
So.
His publicists helped calm him down.
AJ, nothing but a number.
And a sell ain't nothing but a room.
This fucking guy, bro.
He used to be $10.
I hope this camera keeps.
Big Mo in the fucking house.
Don't demonstrate.
Five bucks says, seems like you're ready.
Girl, are you ready to go all the way to liking a damn video?
Hey.
Moby listen to that R ⁇ B, man.
Every time, if I like leave the studio, go to the gym or whatever.
And like Mo's, like, setting up the studio, I come in and he'll have some fucking weird ass R ⁇ B playing, man.
Some R. Kelly, this type of shit.
Like, bro, come on, man.
What are you doing in here by yourself?
Like, you know, when you ever seen the movie The Hangover?
Yeah.
And like, they walk in and Mike Tyson is playing fucking Phil Collins in the night.
Yeah.
And he's like, hey, yo, this is the best part.
And then, you know, that fucking hit the drum set.
And then he just like fucking punches the guy.
That's Mo in the fucking studio.
He'll just be like, you know, play some shit in here, just grooving, you know, setting up the mics, all that shit.
We got 20 bucks from, can you click that one again?
Yeah, fair use, Quran.
Thank you so much.
Shout out to Karan.
Cool.
Myron, what are the chances that all these accusations are capped and he's being blackmailed?
Okay.
So I guess I'll give my opinion on it since we're kind of running towards the end here.
So his biggest fuck up, guys, again, was dealing with underage girls.
If these were women of age, he probably wouldn't be having the severity of these charges.
Okay.
That's number one.
Number two, pretty much his defense was able to articulate that, yo, a lot of these girls that came out, whatever, their parents gave them to him.
They knew what was going on.
They allowed it to happen for promises of, you know, money or fame or fortune or whatever it is.
Everybody in this thing is fucked up.
The parents are stupid.
R. Kelly's stupid.
The girls are stupid.
Everybody was on some fuckery in this case.
Do I think that they lied on him?
To a degree, yes.
Do I think that they sensationalized it for the purpose of Netflix and getting some drama out there?
Yes.
But do I think that what R. Kelly did happened or at least to the point where the court found him guilty?
I think he did.
He was out here.
Yes.
I think that he was fucking underage girls and doing a bunch of stupid shit that he shouldn't have done.
Is it sensationalized to the level that Netflix made it where they're like, yo, he was chaining girls and not letting them meet or whatever?
We don't necessarily know.
I don't think it was to that crazy level because it does sound a little crazy that a famous R ⁇ B star would be chaining up girls and all this other shit without, you know, the authorities like taking action back then.
Right.
But for him to say, yo, they're lying on me 100%.
Come on, bro.
They're not lying on you 100%.
They might be sensationalizing things, but you definitely were out here smashing these young girls, bro.
At this point, that's a proven fact with the overwhelming amount of evidence.
Montreal Rather, two bucks.
Heard he was M-word by his older sister as a kid.
Yes, he was.
He was the victim of abuse himself as well.
Wow.
Go on.
No, we're going to.
This is not true.
This is not.
That doesn't even make sense.
Why would I hold all these women?
Their mothers and fathers told me we're going to destroy your career.
But Kelly's emotions remained raw.
And ain't bid, five bucks.
Yes, the victim at what point she's personal responsibility play a part.
You pee on me.
He pee on her.
She stayed Riley Freeman.
A little lost here by that comment, but okay.
Real girls out there missing.
It's real young girls out there being abducted, being raped.
Okay.
They really are on chains.
They really do have chains on their on their wrists and they can't get out.
They're ending up buried in.
Robert, we have to have a conversation.
I don't want you just ranting at the camera.
I came here for them to hear me talk.
I need help.
What kind of help?
This is the kind of help I need.
Yes, what kind of help?
Oh, man.
And we're going to get into probably the best part of the show, the interview right here, man.
He needs help, guys.
So let's see what the help is that Mr. R. Kelly needs.
I need somebody to help me not have a big heart.
Because my what the fat what the fart is so big.
People betray me and I keep forgiving them.
You sound like you're playing the victim here.
You sound like R. Kelly.
You do.
When I listen to you, you're playing the victim.
I'm just telling the truth.
And the reason I'm emotional.
I apologize for that is because this is the first time I was able to say something.
I've said nothing.
And that is true.
For like, he held this in for like 30 years.
So to his credit, guys, I mean, if you were accused of terrible things like this and everything else like that, and it's been 30 years, you've held it in.
That's why he had such a crazy response to it.
You know, he's never spoken about this stuff publicly.
And he honestly, he shouldn't have done an interview.
I think that was a bad move.
But five-star sports betting goes L. Kelly.
That was easy.
This was not a good interview, man.
It just sad.
This entire situation between the victims, R. Kelly tarnishing his career, him going to jail for 30 years, the girls having the trauma.
It is just an L all around.
You know, everyone definitely takes an L on this one, bro.
But anyway, so we're going to go ahead and stop it there.
So open it up for QA's here, guys.
Like the goddamn video, by the way.
Okay.
We'll do a short QA here.
And then I might start incorporating Collins, guys.
Let me know if y'all want me to start doing Collins on some of these fetish shows.
Not tonight, but in the future.
I noticed with the Tori Lane's case, you guys really enjoyed those.
NBA DeCalli, 10 bucks.
Let's be honest.
This case only got reopened because Trump became president, which is what the birth of the whole Me Too movement in R. Kelly is a sacrificial lamb to give this fake movement any credibility.
Yeah, I mean, you could definitely have your conspiracy theories on it.
You know what I'm saying?
It is what it is.
Thanos, five bucks.
An eight-year-old is mature to change your gender, but a 16-year-old can't.
Hypocrisy.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Asking a tough questions here, I guess.
Let's see here.
Any other questions or comments or anything like that?
Do you have anything?
What's your take on all this, Denise, now that you've went through the case?
I mean, I don't think that it's okay that he messed around with minors or anything like that.
I feel like the only thing that he did bad was anything with minors because if they were older adults, I mean, even if he was abusive, they consented to that, obviously, and they're mature.
But when it comes to kids or anything like that, I just find that disgusting.
Yeah, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, I can't respect him.
Yeah.
And I like his songs.
Yeah.
Which sucks.
Yeah.
It sucks.
He tarnished his legacy, man.
Yeah.
Some young girls.
Yeah.
Let's see here.
Yes, merch guys.
She did say I feel like t-shirts and stores.
But yeah.
But yeah, he did definitely hang around in high schools and McDonald's and all that.
Yeah, he actually would pick up girls and he would go to high schools and pick up girls.
Yep.
Yep.
I think Kenwood High School, which is where he used to sing.
Oh, terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With his music teacher.
I remember he would be like, oh, hey, music teacher, and then get with all the girls.
That's terrible.
Yep.
Very stupid.
Yeah.
But I hope you guys enjoyed that show, man.
That is the R. Kelly breakdown right there.
We talked about a bunch of different things.
So again, guys, quick announcements.
Tomorrow, we're going to, no Fresh Of It tomorrow.
We're going to have Fresh Of It for you guys on Tuesday.
Okay.
Money Monday will be moved to Tuesday.
We're going to talk about entrepreneurship.
And then we're also going to talk with the lovely ladies for after hours that night.
And then also, guys, who knows?
Maybe I might do a second episode for y'all tomorrow.
Who knows if I'm if I got some time?
Someone says five-star sports betting, Tits McGee reveal.
They want to see your, well, you know what?
If we're going to do this, I need y'all to like the goddamn video if we're going to do this.
If you guys want to see her breast reduction, which actually looks very good, go ahead and like the goddamn video right now.
We got 2.6K y'all watching right now, down to 2.5.
Actually, yeah, no, sorry, 2.5.
Get me to 2,200 likes, and we'll show you guys the work that she did.
Yeah.
Dudes are saying this fucking idiots.
Show the tits.
Show the tits.
Yeah, but we need the likes.
Yeah, we need the likes up.
All right.
And she's of age, goddammit.
You guys better not call me R. Kelly in this shit.
She's opposite.
She's double the age.
I feel like a cougar.
Yo, yeah, you feel like a cougar at this point.
Yeah.
I feel like their mother.
Okay, that's fucking hilarious.
Did he get offered a plea?
Yeah, guys.
He always, they always get offered pleas.
You know, the government never wants to go to trial, bro.
They're always going to offer a plea.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's what it is.
Shout out to Zokai, member of the team.
Let me make sure here that I didn't.
No, she ain't 36, guys.
She's 29.
She's 29.
I'm just being funny.
They can't give me no 29 guys.
All right.
Well, I guess you guys will have to catch it on the next show.
But anyway, because we didn't hit our number.
It's fine.
But don't worry, guys.
You guys are going to see Denise going to be hanging coming around more for these Fed episodes.
So, you know, as you guys, our schedules kind of conflict, which is why you guys haven't seen her in a while.
But I'll catch you guys if we don't do a show tomorrow.
I'll catch you guys Tuesday.
Love y'all.
Like the video.
Okay.
Right now, like the video.
And we'll catch you guys tomorrow.
Sorry, Tuesday.
Love y'all.
Okay.
Leave a comment below as well.
Helps the engagement quite a bit.
And yeah, hope you guys enjoyed that one.
Peace.
NCIS.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Let's break this down too.
Okay.
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