Today we look at the dubious reporting behind the NYT’s Oct 7th sexual assault piece published last December. An investigation by the Intercept reveals a latticework of fabricated, unsubstantiated, and debunked claims of “systemic” sexual assault made by Israeli figures with no forensic or sexual assault training. We’re going off vibes here. ALSO: we wipe the taste of hasbara from our palates with an incredibly niche Facebook group of ex-Harry Potter fans using their former wickedness for good: making memes about the wizard and his friends burning in hell. Finally, we cover an age-old band-member squabble: force-transitioning your bassist to steal his fiancé. Read the Intercept’s coverage of the New York Times reporting: https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/ (https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/) Sign up at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult (http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult) to support the show and get bonus episodes every week. JAY EAZY-Tomioka Geaorge Clanton- Keep a Secret Mannequin Pussy- Loud Bark
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We had a wonderful 600th episode last week that I forgot to even mention was our 600th episode.
We kind of like spent some time talking about what we would do for the 600th episode and then just neither of us remembered to bring that up during the app.
Yeah, we got way too excited about the actual movie and we just totally slipped our minds.
Yeah, and we were talking about it the whole time leading up to it.
It was very excited.
And then just totally forgot.
Yeah, 600.
Pretty crazy.
Thanks everybody for the episodes.
Wild to think we'd be doing it for that long.
It's been a harrowing journey with all of you.
That episode's fun.
We just, we decided to cover a little movie called People Under the Stairs that definitely scarred me for life.
Made me had night, I forgot to mention this, it definitely gave me nightmares about my own family trying to kill me.
When I was, when I was young, I had a vivid dream that I still remember where my whole family turned against me and I was running around my grandma's house because that's like where I stayed in the afternoons and The last thing I remember was my mom stabbing me in the back as I was trying to get back into the house through the front door.
I remember dying in my dream.
I remember like it going black.
That's not supposed to happen.
Right.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's amazing.
That's, that's wild.
Did you get like grounded earlier that day?
And like, you felt like she stabbed you in the back and that's like, this is like the pure expression of that.
No, no, my mom is a saint.
I woke up and I apologized to her.
I said, Mommy, I'm so sorry.
Please, please don't put me in the basement again.
I did something to make you stab me.
And I'm so sorry I did that.
I like how it was your grandparents because like your grandparents are so like wholesome.
Yeah, no, everybody.
Everybody was bad.
Everybody was trying to kill me.
Very wholesome, but yeah.
Like those people were purporting to be.
I think it was maybe the first time I had seen a mother try to kill her daughter.
Wouldn't it be the last though?
Wouldn't it be the last?
Right.
No, anyway, that movie is great.
We did not we did not watch it because it was super scary and worth talking about in that sense.
We talked about how it's a crazy class conscious thriller about a young, poor black boy breaking into his landlord's mansion, the landlords that are going to kick him and his sick mother out of their slum, essentially.
Going there to rob them only to find them storing and caging and jailing all their failed offspring in the basement.
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Starting on more of a serious note, I did feel we couldn't go without mentioning the recent Intercept piece about the New York Times October 7th expose.
Absolutely.
The Intercept piece is named Between the Hammer and the Anvil, which describes the relationship of an Israeli
Israeli filmmaker and Air Force intelligence officer The way she describes herself being between the New York Times, and I believe Israel in Being weight being tasked with finding the story behind the meme of Mass rapes occurring on October 7th in Hamas's
You know, uh, invasion or engagement with Israel, uh, because we'd all seen the claims.
We'd all seen the claims online about, uh, how rape was wielded as a weapon of war.
Um, how mass rapes occurred.
I saw people saying hundreds of women had been raped thousands.
Um, so it was already a thing.
That then the New York Times decided they would try to support.
Decided they would try to...
Uh, buttress up with whatever evidence they could find.
This story, I don't, you know, we're not going to read through the whole thing.
It's a very lengthy piece.
We'll include the link in this episode's description as well.
You should absolutely read it.
Um, I'm just going to read a few choice, uh, choice passages from it.
But yeah, this is by Jeremy Scahill, Ryan Grimm, and Daniel Bogeslaw.
Um, the piece describes the process of the New York Times hiring an Israeli filmmaker and former Air Force intelligence official, Anat Schwartz, to conduct an investigation supporting the mass rape narrative that Israel and its supporters were already using to deflect criticism of their very real mass slaughter in Gaza.
Uh, and also to put pressure on the UN, a lot of, a lot of the mass rape.
Uh, I don't, I don't know what, What term you would use?
I don't want to say propaganda because that's a reductive term.
The campaign, the mass rape campaign was aimed at UN women's groups and it was aimed at like Western feminist groups who were rightfully concerned about the plight of women in Gaza, women and children.
And it was used to bombard them.
To bombard them so that they wouldn't have room to say anything on behalf of the Palestinians being killed.
Hillary Clinton tweeted about this.
this she she tweet in November 2023 she tweeted rape is never acceptable and yeah I don't I don't know I don't know who you think you are, Tony.
It's not okay to rape.
It's not.
Yeah.
Never, never.
That was, it was instant.
It was instant that any, any criticism, any criticism of Israel was instantly an endorsement of rape is what was happening.
It was an endorsement of rape.
It was an endorsement of other previously debunked stories like 40 beheaded babies, babies cut from wombs, babies put in ovens, stories that were discredited even by Israeli intelligence and spokespeople themselves weeks after the fact.
Before this report, so before this Intercept report detailing how the New York Times had this story put together that they published at the end of December last year, the author, one of the authors of this report, Anat Schwartz, She had already come under fire for endorsing genocidal statements made on Twitter.
She, quote, liked a tweet saying that Israel needed to turn the Strip into a slaughterhouse and violate any norm on the way to victory.
Those norms would seem to include, yeah, the type of reporting she was going to be tasked with doing.
She had no prior reporting experience.
Several sources told the Intercept that the veteran Times reporter Jeffrey Gettleman Who is ostensibly like in charge of the piece like he's the senior Times reporter.
He's kind of in charge He left according to these sources left the vast majority of the ground reporting to Anat Schwartz and her partner's nephew who was like a culture and International writer, but still I don't think had many large bylines Yeah, go ahead
It's funny, because like, I think that, sorry, something that's happened is like the distrust of politicians has left for this like wanting of like outsiders to be part of it.
And that's kind of bleeding into journalism where it's like they don't want established journalists anymore, because if you're an established journalist, you're like part of the machine.
So like that part doesn't bother the people who are going to be endorsing this article.
Well they have a they do have an established journalist here like overseeing this project and actually they are using his they seem to because he's like a Pulitzer winning journalist I believe they're using like his
Uh, reputation to launder this piece, you know, but they're also using like an Israeli woman, I guess, because of like standpoint theory, because she's Israeli, because she's a woman, she'll somehow have insight into this process when this report really goes into detail about how, how little she was able to actually uncover and how difficult it was.
Um, not just for her, but for anyone, apparently, To actually find evidence for this mass rape meme.
Right here.
The article details using Anat's own words.
So this is the...
The Intercept article details, using her own words, translated from a Hebrew language podcast, how difficult it was to find actual evidence of widespread rape or even a single rape occurring on October 7th.
And I'm going to read here from The Intercept.
And they're quoting her from this Hebrew language podcast.
It was like a news interview.
The New York Times, this is her talking, the New York Times said, let's do an investigation into sexual violence.
So let's just let's just do it.
You know what I mean?
Let's do an investigation into the idea of sexual violence on this day.
It was more a case of them having to convince me, she said.
Her host cut her off.
It was a proposal of the New York Times, the entire thing.
Unequivocally, unequivocally, obviously, of course, she said.
The paper stood behind us 200% and gave us the time, the investment, the resources to go in depth with this investigation as much as needed.
Um, I, you know what you're talking about, Tony, how like maybe they were trying to get like less experienced reporters in there to add a veneer of authenticity or something like that.
I think that might be close to what happened.
They got some Israeli who was like a true believer in this idea of, You know, widespread sexual violence and wanting to defend her her cause and her country, but not having like the same journalistic standards.
I don't mean that in like a to criticize, but just the same like things that would prevent a journalist from moving forward on a story wouldn't she wouldn't she wouldn't have the training to know.
No, absolutely.
You know what was acceptable and what would be acceptable and what wouldn't be acceptable in this type of investigative journalism.
So she probably brought things back that another reporter wouldn't.
And then they went ahead and published that.
You know what I mean?
In the podcast interview, Schwartz details her extensive efforts to get confirmation from Israeli hospitals, rape crisis centers, trauma recovery facilities, and sex assault hotlines in Israel, as well as her inability to get a single confirmation from any of them.
Quote, she was told there had been no complaints made of sexual assaults the Times spokesperson acknowledged after The Intercept brought Channel 12 podcast episode to the paper's attention.
The question has never been whether individual acts of sexual assault may have occurred on October 7th.
Rape is not uncommon in war and there were also several hundred civilians who poured into Israel from Gaza that day in a quote second wave contributing to and participating in the mayhem and violence.
The central issue is whether the New York Times presented solid evidence to support its claim that there were newly reported details quote establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events, but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on October 7th.
A claim stated in the headline that Hamas deliberately deployed sexual violence as a weapon of war.
And I do think it's also important to note how many stories there are of American soldiers using sex and violence as weapons of war.
How many stories there are of IDF, not just combatants, but prison guards, people in charge of prisoners of war, using sexual violence against...
You know, does that, does that not mean that there's widespread or that it's like a, uh, what would you like?
It's an official policy of the IDF to use sexual violence.
Like, why have we never had that expose from, from, from the New York Times indicting all of the IDF for actual documented cases of sexual assault and sexual abuse, not just to women and men, but to minors.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I don't, it is that, that like double standard.
It's trying to like take this thing that exists throughout any time when like we're putting these men in power.
I mean like look at, you know, look at the police when they pull women over.
That's a huge risk that's being taken, you know?
And so like it's very, it's so common, but to assign it as like a, A byproduct of, of Hamas, of Palestine is so disgusting.
Like, no, these are, these are Arabs.
Arabs do this.
And it's like, no men with weapons and power do this.
Yeah.
But they're like, no, no, no.
It's, it's just the Arabs.
And I know, I know rape is a unique evil.
It's something it's, it's completely different from murder.
And in some ways it's, it's, it's worse than murder.
Um, But, it rings as... If you're talking about mass rape as a weapon of war, it's like, okay, if that were going on, super fucked up.
What about the 30,000 dead civilians?
What about the 30,000 people that got murdered from the sky, or got run over by a tank, or got shot in the back with a rifle?
Is that so much better than rape?
I like, you know, it's it's it's it's pretty absurd.
And in and to be to act like.
Such a campaign should silence protests of Israel again.
Again, absurd.
Even if it were true, it'd still be absurd.
So yeah, okay, so she called around, it's still detailing how they were able to put this story together, what sources were actually used.
Nat Schwartz called called around every hospital and crisis center that would treat a victim of rape or sexual assault.
Couldn't find any evidence.
But then finally, a new claim popped up.
And this is a claim from a person identified in anonymous media interviews as a paramedic from the Israeli Air Force Medical Unit 669, who claimed he saw evidence that two teenage girls at Kibbutz Nahal Oz had been raped and murdered in their bedroom.
The man made other outrageous claims, however, that called his report into question.
He claimed another rescuer, quote, pulled out of the garbage a baby who'd been stabbed multiple times.
He also said that he had seen, quote, Arabic sentences that were written on entrances to houses, dot, dot, dot, with the blood of the people that were living in the houses.
No such messages exist, and the story of the baby in the trash can has been debunked.
The bigger problem was that the two girls at the kibbutz fit the sources...
That no two girls at the Kibbitz fit the source's description.
In future interviews, he changed the location to Kibbitz Berry, but no victims killed there match the description either, as Mondewise reported.
After seeing these interviews, Schwartz started calling people at Kibbutz Be'eri and other Kibbutzim that were targeted on October 7th in an effort to track down the story.
Nothing.
There was nothing, she said.
No one saw or heard anything.
She then reached the Unit 669 paramedic, who relayed to Schwartz the same story he had told other media outlets, which she says convinced her that there was a systematic nature to the sexual violence.
I say, OK, so it happened.
One person saw it happen in Be'eri.
So it can't be just one person because it's two girls.
It's sisters.
It's in the room.
Something about it is systematic.
Something about it feels to me that it's not random.
Schwartz concluded on the podcast.
This is like how delusional it is.
OK, so No evidence.
Well, I know that at least one, it happened, right?
Even though I have no evidence, I know that at least it happened.
And then one guy comes forward and tells me that it happened.
I'm like, wow, that's two times it happened because of the one time in my head that I originally had.
And then this one as well, two times, that's systematic.
Yeah.
Now it's systematic and widespread.
I love also, it can't just be one person because it's two girls.
What kind of math is that?
What do you mean?
What are you saying?
Also, the whole thing is... I heard about this story about this guy who reported it.
No one believed it.
His story was debunked.
So I talked to him.
I looked into it and there was absolutely nothing to it.
But then I talked to him and he said he really said he was there.
Do you think I'm lying that he didn't say he was there?
Honestly, what's funny is, with everything else we're learning about October 7th, it's more likely that he did that.
That he raped and murdered two girls, and then tried to say that it was Hamas.
But it just never happened.
But it would have been more likely that that happened.
Yeah.
Shorts said she then began a series of extensive conversations with Israeli officials from Zaka, a private ultra orthodox rescue organization that has been documented to have mishandled evidence and spread multiple false stories about the events of October 7th, including debunked allegations of Hamas operatives beheading babies and cutting the fetus from a pregnant woman's body.
Look into Zaka, folks.
A lot of these claims are based on this religious group within Israel called Zakah and I couldn't find the original piece where I was reading about them.
Most of what you can find is either beyond superlative pieces from Israeli media about Zakah Or you can find really damning stuff, uh, in, in other places.
Zaka was, I believe, founded by a dude convicted of like, or credibly accused of child sex crimes.
And they're like this ultra Orthodox, uh, very insular religious group.
And they've like, Planted fake bombs at paleontologists' houses to prevent them from exhuming, you know, bones and shit like that?
Like, they're psychotic.
I really wanted to find the one that I originally read about them before I saw that they were actually one of the main, because I didn't know that they were one of the main sources Of like the beheaded babies or of the, uh, you know, baby cut out of a womb.
They would, they would like refer to rescue teams, say like rescuer, Israeli rescuers.
They're oftentimes talking about Zaka because they're this volunteer group who goes in there.
Um, and.
There was something about like they, they were getting too horny from looking at the women's bodies, the like corpses.
Yes.
Yeah.
I like, I don't, I don't want to sound crazy because I don't have the action, but like they got permission to like, look at the women's genital, look at the women's genitals on the corpses they were handling.
Cause they're there for like, they're there for like holy treatment, I guess, of, uh, of bodies and, you know, removing them in some sort of way.
But they just, they can't stop lying.
about what they see, and they're also just not good.
They're not like forensically trained whatsoever.
Its workers are not trained forensic scientists or crime scene experts.
Quote, when we go into a house, we use our imagination, said Yossi Landau, a senior Zaka official describing the group's work at October 7th attack sites.
Quote, the bodies were telling us what happened.
That's what happened.
Almost all of these rape allegations that I've seen have come from people who just have no
Actual ability or no Training or anything like one of Sherry Mendez, she's an American architect who serves in a rabbinical out unit of the Israeli Defense Force forces Was deployed to morgues to prepare bodies for burial after the October 7th attacks claims to have seen voluminous evidence of sexual assaults we saw evidence of We saw evidence of rape, Mendez said in one interview.
Pelvises were broken, and it probably takes a lot to break a pelvis.
How do you know the pelvis was broken?
You know?
Like, how do you even do pelvises?
I mean, that sounds like an ignorant question, but like, holy, a broken pelvis from a rape?
That's crazy.
That's gnarly.
There's some Israeli detective show out there, but instead of being called Psych or Bones, it's just called Vibes.
I know what happened here.
What do you mean?
Well, the vibes are telling me a story, and I got a feeling that these sisters were raped and murdered.
They didn't exist, but that's just the vibes I'm getting.
If you look clearly in this young woman's underwear drawer, you'll notice thongs.
Yeah.
So it's very clear what Hamas did here.
But I'm going to go ahead and I don't know.
I'm going to go and take these home.
I'm going to take these thongs home to make sure that, you know, the vibes of the thongs are cool.
Did I actually put one on the hood of my car to bless my car?
Short said that in her initial interview, Zaka members did not make any specific allegations of rape, but described the general condition of bodies they said they saw.
They told me, yes, we saw naked women or quote, we saw a woman without underwear, both naked without underwear and tied with zip ties and sometimes not zip ties, sometimes a rope or a string of a hoodie.
None of these, there's no photographs of this stuff.
Yeah.
Like the, these rabbinical units are like quick to process these bodies.
There's no evidence taken from any of these bodies.
It's literally just like.
What did this old religious cult say they saw in like a fit of religious ecstasy or whatever?
Yeah.
And like, don't don't get it twisted.
It's not like the pictures are too gruesome and that's why they're not coming out.
So they don't exist because the bar for what we're seeing now is through the roof.
We've seen everything.
We've seen every gruesome thing you could possibly imagine.
So they would go ahead and show the wrist tight.
Right.
But they just don't exist.
So, like, don't get it twisted.
They're not afraid of showing those pictures because they, like, literally create them themselves.
Dude, I saw... I saw a meme that was, like, Me Too Except for Jew.
You know, whatever, like, that Brett Gelman was trying to do about Hamas rapes.
It was like that.
And it was the star of Dave... It was a pair of, like, thong underwear.
You know how there's like a V in the thong?
If you're looking at a flat thong underwear, it's like a V. And then a squirt of blood to make the inverted V, the up arrow, to make the Star of David out of... That's so fucking weird.
Raped panties with blood.
Someone made that in Photoshop to prove a point.
That's insane.
That's insane.
Imagine, like, zip-tied hands, but they're the AI hands.
So they're all, like, clawed out.
Right, just use some of those extra fingers to get free.
What are you doing?
Yeah, what's going on?
Back to Shuri Mendez, this IDF, American architect who serves in the rabbinical unit of the IDF.
This is not just something we saw on the internet.
We saw these bodies with our own eyes.
Mendes has been a ubiquitous figure in the Israeli government and major media narratives on sexual violence on October 7th, despite the fact that she has no medical or forensic credentials to legally determine rape.
She had also spoken about other violence on October 7th, telling the Daily Mail in October, a baby was cut out of a pregnant woman and beheaded, and then the mother was beheaded.
No pregnant women died that day, according to the official Israeli list of those killed in the attacks.
And the Independent Research Collective October 7 fact check said... That's because she wasn't pregnant when they killed her anymore.
She wasn't... When they killed her, she wasn't pregnant anymore.
Oh, see, that's how they get away with it.
Yeah.
That's how they trick the census.
That's a COVID death, you know?
So, yeah, I mean...
Rough stuff, like, you know, honestly don't like covering a lot of this because it's just pretty sick.
Pretty sick that you have to, like, actually investigate this stuff and, you know, find out that it is just pointed propaganda.
It's pretty...
Pretty rough.
I mean, you know, we've seen a lot of it though, so it's not really surprising.
But just, I'm glad people took the time to actually, like, look into the story.
Look into the, like, serious intel behind this story.
And yeah, the link to this article will be in the show's description.
And I'd recommend reading it and recommend it to any of your Friends or family who have said things to you like, Hamas raped a thousand women on October 7th.
Yeah, and I will say this is good that it exists because, like you said, this is something you can send to people because you can talk to them until you're blue in the face.
But it's nice to have an article that really clarifies what you're trying to tell them that they might not read, but it's there because a lot of these people, they don't actually they're not in touch like most regular people they have.
no idea what's going on they're not like following al jazeera or anything like that you know they they just get what cnn tells them at best so this is a really good thing to like go ahead and send them you know yeah Easy.
What?
Only thing that leave is your bitch when I bend her over.
Sip it, Poland, spring in Arizona.
Fuck a Coca-Cola.
That your Juliet?
Oh, that's cool.
I'm a Romeo-her.
You think you a demon till I G you like I'm Tomioka.
I be telling them shit.
They don't listen to me.
They just fuck with the flow.
I probably switched to the rap and the Spanish, and motherfuckers probably wouldn't even know.
Viva la raza, no Eddie Guerrero.
Your dad is a Buddha.
Your mom's in my home.
Then after doing a salsa to that, they just throw up their hands and start hitting the road.
Contradictions.
I'm a player simpin'.
Why?
You broke as fuck, but wanna pay a visit.
Why?
Do I take a hour, but said that I'll take a minute.
Why?
Can't everyone be rich if the money's printed.
Why?
You sayin' you in your bag, but you got nothin' in it.
Why?
You sayin' you outside, but you ain't get no bitches.
That's cool, I'm inside orderin' some Desano off of Essence.
That's cool, I'm inside hittin' your bitch with combos like it's Tekken.
Only thing that lean is your bitch when I bend her over.
Sippin', pullin', springin' air.
Okay, I wanted to do a little bit of MDC classic as maybe a palate cleanse or a little mouthwash here I found a great group and you know like a lot of these great great groups.
It's not Doesn't have a lot of members only got 254 okay, but it's the quality of the content that counts, and I think this one really does This is Harry Potter actual Christian memes On Facebook Hell yeah.
And I'm reading here in the About section of Harry Potter Actual Christian Memes.
A Harry Potter meme group for Christians who know what happens to witches and wizards.
What do you think happens to witches and wizards, Tony?
Did your parents raise you right?
I think that they go to hell.
Unless they're immortal, then they can't really go to hell.
But I think they get smited.
I don't think they get to see the glory of heaven.
See, um, I would, if we were in like class together and the teacher had asked you that question, she would have said, very good, Tony.
100% correct.
Great job.
Oh, Alex, you have your hand up too.
And then I would say, I think Harry Potter and Hermione Granger already live in hell every day from their absence of Christ.
And then, you know, she'd smile.
She'd give me a little wink.
And I'd fucking hold a grudge against you for the rest of our lives.
I love this group, so I'll detail my process with this group, my process of discovery and realization with this group.
I saw this in another...
There's a group that I've talked about that we talked about in our live show in New York City and that's Silence Rib.
This is the epic, right-wing based, young, Christian, anti-woman group.
If you haven't heard that episode, you should.
I believe it's available to listen to.
Featuring Rax King, show favorite, good friend, Rax King.
Rib means woman in based Christian.
Yes.
You know, Eve is made of the rib of Adam.
And this is silence rib, so this is like what you tag when there's some woman who won't shudder yet.
You tag the group, you write the group as a response to her.
And she's like, what the heck?
Silence written, and she's like... She might seem bewildered, but she's owned by that.
She is.
And if she doesn't get it, that's because she's a dumb woman.
Right.
You get it.
So David here...
is recruiting for Harry Potter actual Christian memes within the Silence Rib Facebook group.
He says, witchcrafty ribs need to zip it, zip it, zip it.
He's using the zip zipper mouth emoji.
Learn what really happens to Harry Potter at Harry Potter actual Christian memes.
And then he's included a meme of Taylor Swift.
And it says, referencing Harry Potter, Taylor Swift discusses re-recording her old albums.
Quote, I'm collecting horcruxes.
And then there's images which are AI generated.
Yeah.
I guess.
And maybe the Taylor Swift one's real.
Oh, they're all Taylor Swift, aren't they?
Yeah, they're all Taylor.
Oh, they're all Taylor Swift Harry Potter-y.
Oh my God.
Yeah, they must be AI.
Well, I don't know, because... Okay, so the images are of Taylor Swift with, like, three snakes crawling all over her face.
And she's not like Medusa.
These are just snakes on her head.
On her head.
Another one is she looks like she's in front of, like, a coven of witches standing in a ring of fire, and there's, like, fire in the background.
It's probably a music video.
She's wearing, like, black lipstick.
Another one, she's on a throne of snakes.
It looks like it's probably the same music video as the...
First image we talked about and it says, Gee, why am I not surprised that she likes Harry Potter?
She's obviously, I mean, I mean, not even trying to hide it.
Obviously, an idiot who would like who would like someone like Taylor Swift would also like Harry Potter because they're fucking they're both not of Christ.
When I first saw this meme, like, I had... You know, I tend to read things fast.
Especially on social media.
And I, for a second, I thought maybe they thought Taylor Swift was like Voldemort.
Because she was collecting horcruxes.
Yeah, so they were saying... She's the bad one.
People were saying it positively, yeah.
Well, Harry Potter also kind of collects horcrux, but they're not his horcruxes, though.
Like, you know what I mean?
Because in the book, horcrux is where if you're a bad guy, you can kill someone and cast a spell at the same time, and the soul that breaks off of you for killing someone, which is bad, Will be stored in a Horcrux so that you can never die.
You can return as that little piece of soul that was cut off of you or whatever.
But those are all your items.
And if she's collecting Horcrux, does that mean she's like going back to her old albums, you know?
Those are like her... Her pieces of soul, I think.
I think they're right to call her evil, like Voldemort.
Yeah, this makes sense.
And also, think about how many things she did kill with those albums the first time.
What did she kill?
Probably a few relationships, honestly.
There is a correlation between Taylor Swift's 1989 and women being able to cook.
I think she definitely killed men's expectations of women.
That's for sure.
Uh, here's, okay, so no, this, uh, they're, they're just, they say because she made a Harry Potter reference, she's evil.
I think is, is what they're saying.
Which is odd because- Oh yeah, she said it, huh?
I forgot that she actually said it.
Yeah.
I thought they were just saying that about her, but yeah, I forgot she actually said it.
I'm collecting her, it's right here, dude.
Yeah, yeah.
Um... They don't like her for quoting Harry Potter or for referencing Harry Potter, but if you go to this group, They reference Harry Potter quite a bit.
JDF posts, how can Christians watch a movie like this and say that it's appropriate for children?
And it's like a real, you know, like a movie from Instagram or from Facebook, where someone put in different music over the scene where the mean teacher, Dolores Umbridge, has Harry Potter in detention.
Which is like a sadomasochistic, sadistic, excuse me, sadistic scene in general.
Yeah.
And they put like Fifty Shades of Grey music over it.
Oh, they made it horny?
They made it horny because she says like, Yes.
Really slowly in it.
That's so funny that they saw that scene and they're like, this is way too horny for kids.
If you see the scene, it is, she's like, I mean, it's, you're supposed to know that the teacher is getting off on it, on like punishing him.
Like that, like there is, it is like a, it's not that far off.
But I do love that this guy got mad enough at the edit to be like, we can't have Harry Potter at all.
Because look at what it inspires in people.
Right?
Yep.
Yep.
Some replies.
Casey says, okay, but this is hilarious.
Crying emoji, crying emoji.
Who would put this music?
JD replies, the same demons who conceived of the franchise in the first place, I bet.
What do you mean?
Who would ever do a thing like put music behind demonic pedophilia?
I don't know.
Maybe the people who created demonic pedophilia?
Hello?
Hello?
It's right there.
This meme was obviously made by Hollywood Elite.
David, who is a moderator in this group, who is the guy who was, I think it's called Flirty Fishing, when you post your Harry Potter actual Christian meme into the Silence Rib group.
He's trying to attract members, this young gentleman, David.
He replies about Harry Potter, he does deserve to be punished, and then put three fire emojis for hell.
Because it does sound horny at first, but then he had to clarify that he's not being horny, he's saying hell.
So that sounded horny.
He's like, yeah, Harry's been bad.
Harry's been a real bad boy.
And as much as I'm salivating, or as much as I'm, uh, tumescent, uh, this is about religion, folks.
Yep.
It's about right and wrong.
I take no pleasure in him being punished.
I mean, I did kind of create an entire Facebook group about it, but that's not what it's about.
Yeah, he says he does deserve to be punished.
Fire emoji!
And then JD says that part is true.
Yep, absolutely.
Nailed it.
I'm glad you're here with me.
More from David.
Here's another really good meme.
It's...
It's elves, I think, in Lord of the Rings.
Pointing arrows at Gimli's head.
Point-blank?
Point-blank?
So you, like, just see the arrow tips.
And maybe the bow.
And Gimli is labeled in impact font.
A Christian who, quote, likes Harry Potter!
And then the arrow is labeled, Righteous Judgment!
But aren't we supposed to like that character?
Do they, is this, does he die in this scene?
Yeah, he does die when they get found by the Wood Elves in, uh, Two Towers.
I don't remember.
Is this how they murk him right here?
They just, they, they arrow to the head?
Because like, that's what, that's what it had to be.
Like, it would have to be like, because Righteous Judgment is gonna win, right?
That's what they're saying.
Yeah, it probably should win.
Um...
I love this.
So fucking funny.
You're supposed to be Gimli in this meme, dude.
You're supposed to be Gimli in, like, uh... How did I find myself in this situation again?
You know, this is... Yeah, exactly.
This is like, uh, hey... Hey, what, uh...
What comments about female promiscuity have you looking like this at the family reunion?
There's a bunch of arrows.
Yeah.
Pointed at your head.
Like that's what the meme is supposed to be.
It's not just supposed to be, I'm gonna kill you because you like Harry Potter.
There's like some sweet...
There's some sweet Christian mom out there who, like, you know, after years of trying, got IVF and had a little baby and enjoys Harry Potter, and she's going straight to hell.
She's gonna burn for eternity.
You can't have any fun as a Christian anymore.
I'm happy they're doing this.
I'm happy you can't be a Christian and still have fun.
Well, they are having fun.
They're still... I feel like they think they found a loophole.
Because, okay, here's a great example.
So this is Roger.
Roger, who's not only an admin, but the creator and founder of Harry Potter actual Christian memes.
Legend.
And this is- Fucking legend.
And you're about to find out why, because this is hashtagged OC.
That's right, original content from Roger.
Three-panel meme and they're scenes from Harry Potter go figure and it's the scene where Dumbledore is talking.
This is the first Dumbledore I think this is the Dumbledore who died The Dumbledore who died unfortunately Talking about Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Occultism?
He's talking to Harry Potter and he says, Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Occultism.
Dot dot dot.
I was most unfortunate in my youth to come across a Wiccan, and since then, I'm afraid I've lost my liking for them.
Next panel.
But I think, dot dot dot, I could be safe, dot dot dot, with a little Harry Potter.
This shows him looking in the In the box of Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Occultism.
And then he looks up in the third panel and says, Alas, eternal damnation.
I'm so happy I have you here to help me out because I am so fucking confused.
Uh, this is what I'm saying, okay?
This is how, this is how, this is the based way to start a fuckin' navel-gazing Harry Potter phantom Facebook group.
Uh, yeah, cause it's a reference to a scene, uh, where he tries Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Beans.
He says, Oh, I was, uh, I used to, I, I haven't eaten them since I grabbed a booger one flavored booger flavored one by mistake, whatever.
But I think I'll be okay with a little nougat or whatever, but he's, Oh, it's actually earwax.
But he's saying... He's saying he's already fucked with the Wiccan before, but now he's gonna have a little Harry Potter who's a witch.
Right.
So... But then it bites him in the ass because it is, in fact, Booger, a.k.a.
Witch, a.k.a.
Eternal Damnation.
It's so good to compare the thing you hate with a magical candy.
Yep.
You know, like, a candy inside of a world that's already pretty, you know, I don't know, inclined to the viewers, to the readers' tastes, you know?
Pre-teens and little dorks in their teenage years and stuff like that.
And then the candy within.
You're like, yeah, actually, the candy that all your favorite characters enjoy?
Yeah.
It's damn neat.
Hellfire.
A candy that Exists in the world, but it exists in real life, too.
And sells.
Yeah.
It sells with the real booger flavors and the whatever.
All the gross.
It's a real thing that is successful.
So like, what are you going for here?
Yeah, and just, I mean, just typing out this whole meme, like almost word for word analogy, you know, to the actual dialogue.
I don't think you really hate Harry Potter that much.
I think you're trying.
You're, this is like starting, starting this group is like your message to God being like, can I, can I look at Harry Potter this way, please?
Like, can I please just like read the books with contempt now?
No, I relate to this because they're kind of like using their... Because now they know that their liking of Harry Potter was wrong.
So they're using their knowledge to atone for that and educate them.
Much like I do with Catholicism and stuff like that.
It's the same thing.
Yeah, that's why you have that Facebook group.
What happens to real Catholics during Revelations!
Or whatever.
It's going off right now for Lent.
You should check it out.
Here's another meme from Roger, another OC.
It's Harry Potter.
It's a three panel meme.
First is Harry Potter's, whenever you feel sad, second panel Harry Potter, just remember Lupin's wise words.
And it's Lupin who says, thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
So I'm gonna kill you guys.
See, that's... I forgot about this character.
So, yeah, that's what's happening.
That's what this character is.
Like, yeah, I'm gonna murder you.
It's... I mean, that's like a... This is heady stuff.
This is heady Harry Potter.
It's like a Bible quote, right?
Thou shalt not... So, Mr. Catholic?
Uh, no, I think this is a Black Sabbath lyric.
Uh, no.
That's... It's definitely in the Bible.
It's definitely, like, in Leviticus or whatever.
It's one of those, you know?
Yeah.
Um...
And I was like, here's, this is the meme where I'm like, getting inklings.
When I was looking over this stuff, because I grabbed all this stuff the other day, and when I was looking over it today for the show, I was like, this meme's kind of funny.
It'd be kind of funny to be like, one of your beloved characters is just gonna quote the Bible all of a sudden and he's gonna kill... kill you.
You know?
And so I was like... It also kind of...
Because all of this is, I should say, Harry Potter actual Christians group, I really kind of buried the lead here, is an obvious response to a Harry Potter Christian memes group that people from this group think shouldn't exist.
Yeah.
Or at least- Christians who actually do like Harry Potter and they're actually like sharing memes.
Christians who, God bless them, Are somehow like making Christianity and Harry Potter work together?
And if you if you care about Christianity at all, I think that's probably a good thing.
I think it's it's probably okay for people to What do you call it like rectify their love of these two things and maybe You actually use Harry Potter to spread Christian messaging or whatever like that's that's gonna get a lot farther than Pointing an arrow at somebody's face or whatever, right?
I think some of these people got like their memes rejected from that group And that's why they started this group.
And because the group creators is an OC machine.
I hope there's still menace in there.
I hope people still hit that page with these memes.
Yeah, me too.
Totally.
But I was also looking at this one.
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
It could be also aggrieved at Christians who like Harry Potter memes from atheists.
From Edgelord Atheist.
Maybe an Edgelord Atheist is like, hey, here's what your god says about your favorite little Harry Potter character.
He's gonna drown her in the river, you know?
So I had that kind of in the back of my mind.
I was like, wait, am I like in a group I didn't understand?
Am I in a group that's meant to make fun of Christian Harry Potter fans?
Edgy, atheist, owning Christians.
Right.
Are we are we cosplaying as or are we cosplaying as fire and brimstone conservative over the top conservatives who want to burn Daniel Radcliffe at the stake?
Right.
So I have that in the back of my mind.
I just wanted to read one more meme here from David again, a moderator.
Two-panel meme, and it's from Return, or it's from A New Hope, and it's Uncle... What's the uncle's name?
I don't remember.
I don't mean either.
Uncle talking to Luke, and the uncle says, uh... Jar Jar Binks.
Right, yeah, it's Jar.
Uncle's name, Uncle Jar Jar.
Fucking stupid-ass name, like, Blim Bob Filo, or whatever.
Um...
That wizard's just a crazy old man.
Remember when Uncle... See, he's talking about Ben.
You know, old Ben Kenobi, right?
Yeah.
That wizard's just a crazy old man.
And he's labeled based 90s parents.
That's who's saying it.
And then Luke is labeled godly 90s kids.
Okay, thanks for letting me know.
I'll stay away from him.
So, like... All the other... All the Harry Potter memes... That are using Harry Potter content...
Um, kind of rely on you knowing Harry Potter.
Mm-hmm.
And this one kind of relies on you not knowing Star Wars because that would mean that Harry Potter is actually very tight and will actually change your life for the better.
Um, and will, like, actually help you grow and even, like, you know, and make a sacrifice for you, you know?
Why does it mean that?
Why does it mean that?
Because that's what Obi-Wan was.
Obi-Wan was a good thing.
Sure, yeah.
I don't understand the movie you want to see.
I wish the movie were more like my real life, where I stayed away from anything fantastical out of fear of eternal torment.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, so as a 90s kid, you were lying.
If that's what you're going off of.
You're lying.
You didn't stay away from them.
Oh, yeah, sure.
He's saying, yeah, well, yeah, he's saying he was a sinner.
He was a sinner and he read Harry Potter, you know?
Oh, yeah, okay, okay.
The based 90s kid would be like, oh, that guy's gonna expand my horizons and show me a world I've only dreamt of?
I'll stay clear, steer clear of that guy.
I forgot, I kind of forgot that they did label the parents as being base, like, this is really about the parents being right, not about the kid Yeah.
Doing anything.
Also, your parents are gonna, like, be murdered in the next, like, ten minutes.
Well, there's aunt and uncle.
Well, I know, but they're labeled parents here.
That's, that's really true.
Yeah.
Whatever his name is, was never... This isn't Klieg.
I remember, why do I remember Klieg?
Bay, Bay, what was his, Beru, Beru?
That sounds right.
Aunt Beru, Uncle, I don't remember the uncle's name.
It's something, it wasn't a good name.
It's like, it was like Luke, you know?
Yeah.
Um...
But I went to Roger, who started this group.
I was like, I need to know if I'm being punked about this.
I need to know if, like, this is a bit... I went to Roger's profile, and he has a little About Me section within the group, and it says, The Headmaster.
If you see this, then 500,000 points are taken from Gryffindor, and Dobby never gets his sock.
So Harry Potter is like your whole thing.
Right.
Yeah, you're, you're, you're like cosplaying as you're still in the Harry Potter world.
You're just like an aggrieved muggle within it.
Yeah.
Are you, are you hate watching Harry Potter?
Is that what's happening?
Look at this meme that he made I saw on his profile.
It's Lord of the Rings and it's the scene between, it's the scene at the end of the trilogy when Elijah Wood decides to put the ring on inside Mount Doom instead of cast it into the fire and shows like Sam is like, you know, please no.
And so Elijah Wood Frodo is labeled American colonies.
And then when he's putting the ring on, the ring is labeled independence.
And then Sam is labeled redcoats who look on in horror at what Elijah Wood's doing.
The ring goes on the finger and Sam screams, NO!
And this was posted on the 4th of July.
This is a 4th of July meme.
Hashtag 4th of July.
Hashtag independence.
Hashtag America.
Like again, like...
Remember when the main character becomes evil?
The main character becomes evil That's that's us dude That's it.
That's amazing That's amazing.
This is like, this is like, unbelievably whitewashes Britain at the time of the Redcoats.
Yeah.
As Sam, are you kidding me?
Like the most like empathetic character, the one you're like, oh, he, he did, he, hey, he stood on business.
He stood on business.
Sam would be like the French or something.
I don't know.
What would they, what would they like label Gollum?
Uh... Communism.
No, Gollum would be like the SJW who's been driven mad by Harry Potter.
You know, has like called it her precious media, her precious fandom.
And so she's been twisted and disfigured by which they mean she has like pink hair and a septum ring.
Yeah.
Um, another meme is just shows like the Harry Potter characters praying with, but it's AI.
Amazing.
Uh, so it's AI, Rupert Grint, praying AI, Daniel Radcliffe, AI, Hermione Granger, all sort of individually praying in like grandiose cathedrals, candlelight.
Now you just regularly take our Catholic churches, baby.
Um, yeah, I believe every Catholic church is a grandiose cathedral.
What about you, Tony?
This is just stained glass, brother.
Stained glass and pews.
I'm impressed.
I'm impressed.
You guys don't know.
We all got the endless stained glass.
Actually, the church that they knocked down, my old church, they built a new one and it looks like shit and there's like weak ass stained glass.
So, never mind.
Does it look like one of those new McDonald's?
Uh, kind of.
Square and charcoal gray accents?
It's a bummer.
It's a bummer.
It does not look cool at all.
It's like really sad.
It's the one on baseline.
Down the street from East Highland.
Don't care.
Yeah, it looks awful.
I just love that they're also using Facebook for what people 50 years older than them use Facebook for, which is sharing fake memes of celebrities praying.
Yep.
Sharing AI-generated photos of Elon Musk praying with his son.
So sick.
Those photos are getting amazing.
The ones that are being shared.
How come nobody shares a photo like this?
And it's Jesus very clearly.
The Jesus referenced from the Sao Paulo monument.
Yeah.
And he's also somehow part of an airplane.
So his outspread arms are the wings of the airplane.
And his, like, chest and head are mounted on top of the airplane, like he's a Venture Brothers villain.
You know, he's just a giant airplane man that a bunch of people are, like, US soldiers are boarding.
And it says, like, who will share, please say amen.
And it's got 400,000 likes on it.
Are you down to get inside the Jesus ship?
It doesn't even reference that it's a Jesus ship.
It's just, what a beautiful painting.
It's just like, how come this never go viral?
It's kind of, if you could secretly build a giant Jesus ship, you could You could launch a lot of people into space.
You could get a lot of people on that.
You could launch a lot of folks into space.
The last Harry Potter meme, also from David.
And it's, I don't know, it's Daniel Radcliffe, like, working behind the desk at an office.
Looks like he's a receptionist of some kind, or maybe an assistant, or maybe just at the front desk at a walk-in store.
Some guy's talking to him over the counter, and he says, We are all so proud of you, Harry.
It couldn't have been easy dropping out of school after giving your life to Christ.
And then Harry says, thank you, sir, but I'd rather honor my Lord than have all the power of wizardry in the world.
And this would be extremely funny if it weren't, if you weren't serious about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it's, it is extremely funny to think a Christian would think this way.
You can't be funny by thinking this way.
Like, I don't, like, I don't know how to tell these people that just because you know, it's a joke doesn't mean it's like, Funny for you to do it.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of people, I think, in the last 10 to 20 years who think that just because they acknowledge that they're a joke, I think that gives them a pass to be a joke, you know?
Oh yeah, and like, it's a thing, I don't know, maybe workshop it a little bit.
Maybe run this by your friends before you type it out.
Put it on a thing.
The idea behind it- No, no.
There's no workshopping this.
The idea behind it is fucking insane.
If you think about it for more than two seconds, it just goes out the window.
It's insane, but for absurdity.
And then it makes total sense.
If you were trying to write something absurd, you've achieved it.
It's funny.
Yeah.
Yeah, I love that.
Okay.
Go ahead.
This would make- I mean, this would just make Harry Potter a complete idiot, right?
He'd be so dumb.
He'd be a loser.
No listen I know that I was able to like literally kill people with a snap of my finger and I could just like levitate and like create things and blah blah blah I can do all these sick ass things but instead I'd rather just like pray and just be like no it's cool that I prayed for my mom not to die but she still did even though I could actually bring her back to life with my witchcraft.
Well, I don't know if you could do that, Tony.
If you'd read the books, maybe you would understand that the dead can never truly return back to life, unfortunately.
I still probably wouldn't give up being, like, head of the wizard FBI to answer phones at a store, you know?
I would use a little bit of witchcraft just to get a sick job and then maybe fall back.
You'd use enough witchcraft to get yourself put back into the Muggle Matrix, like Cyber, whatever his name was.
Yeah, just do enough witchcraft to make a steak appear in your freezer every week.
Exactly, exactly.
Okay, that's Harry Potter.
Actual Christian meme groups, in case anyone was wondering what actually happens to witches and wizards.
I hope y'all learned something today.
Remember, Harry Potter fans are fake Christians, and they're going to go straight to hell.
I want you to be here.
I want you to be here.
I want you to be here.
I want you to be here.
I want you to be here.
No.
This is as close as I got.
The podcast?
Wow, I'm honored.
This is it.
This is the band.
I never toured with a band, but I did tour with a podcast, so I'm counting it, baby.
Oh, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I count all that.
Yeah, no.
Two successful tours, you know lots of downloads, you know, it's just just it's the same as a band, but probably better actually Yeah, we probably probably got laid way more than any band did way more way more through the roof All right.
Well, if you've never been part of a band Tony might be hard to understand but there are ups and downs You know, these are people you See, I do know van life, so that's what I'll give it.
They know you like nobody else.
And sometimes things just happen when tensions are fraught.
So I do know van life, so that's what I'll give it.
I know what it's like to be in the van.
So we can say that.
And sometimes, you know, not all the time, but sometimes a band member might force femme one of their bandmates in order to steal away that bandmate's partner who is also in the band.
This story is insane.
I, oh my God.
So this is from Eurona Hardcore.
This is a band from Tennessee, uh, who is not, who's like a small band.
You, you can't find anything, any music from this band, unfortunately.
I don't even know if they had any recorded material.
They were still a very new band and also they apparently like hate the Nashville hardcore scene and have like talked shit on Nashville hardcore scene and they're from like some other city that's not Nashville in Tennessee.
So, unfortunately, you're not going to be able to hear any of this music.
You're not going to be able to hear what this conflict sounds like.
I was very curious.
But this is something they posted to their Instagram.
We've decided to part ways with our vocalist, Diego, due to admission of very disturbing and concerning behavior towards one of our band members and their partner.
OK, maybe the partner wasn't in the band.
He is admitted to being obsessed with said partner and has been attempting to sabotage their relationship by cutting the pre-workout he frequently gifts from his job with high amounts of estrogen in them.
He has been attempting to force a transition onto him for the last five months in hopes that it would give him the opportunity to swoop in once he looked stronger and more manly in comparison.
Insane.
Insane.
Uh, see this, the thing is though, now, with Wokeness, I mean sure you might make your bandmate look more supple and feminine, but his partner's probably frickin' bisexual anyway, cause of Wokeness.
Yeah.
So it's not even a sure thing.
You can't even, you can't even call it foolproof to force femme your singer or force femme.
I don't know what this guy played.
I'm curious.
He totally blew it.
All he did was like help your friend's skin clear up.
The bassist is probably, probably the member that I would force femme.
Probably go after the bassist.
It says a lot because it was part of the pre-workout, right?
Yeah, so like there, if it's if it's enough to like actually have some effects and stuff like that and using that regularly, that means they're working out like pretty regularly.
It's so it's every dynamic of this is wild.
So I mean, they're pretty, pretty, pretty like they're probably paying attention to how their bodies.
Yeah, well let me read this.
This tampering has caused confusion and thousands of dollars in medical bills the past months trying to figure out what's wrong.
We would not know any of this unless Diego had gotten way too intoxicated and outed himself and then stated an admission to all of this via text.
There are many more disgusting details that have been left out for the sake of privacy and general censorship should not have posted any of this guys.
They're saying they've since deleted this account.
They did not want the attention that they got that we are referencing.
This is not something I would have.
Not something I would have pulled original reporting on, I don't think, you know, without the express without permission from this band.
But they're gone.
They're done their history.
And a lot of people in like the Loudwire comment section and the PRP.com comment section had had opinions about this.
Yeah, there's more to this note.
The only sealed products he would provide were proteins, but the other products were always unsealed because they were tossed at his job if they couldn't sell it, hence why it was free.
That makes sense.
He also has easy access to steroids and hormones because of his gym practices.
I am going to be seeing an endocrinologist over the next few months to track my hormonal fluctuations to see if my estrogen levels are extremely heightened.
and go back to normal over time i've had physical changes from the hormones besides stomach ulcers weight loss and muscle fatigue that i will not get into as well as notable mental changes i will also be getting the last batch of pre-workout he gave me tested for estrogen i have about two to three full cups of it left he will not pass off what he admitted to as a joke or confusion even in this state of drunkenness uh you know we're not going to get a follow-up on this about the the testing etc and the receipts they post where the guy supposedly admits it
um the guy admits to saying that he did that i'm sorry guys uh the The project is over due to me saying some very uncomfortable and disrespectful things to Six and Caroline, such as giving Six estrogen and being obsessed with Caroline and hating Six while I was drunk.
I've been kicked out of Eurona as well and will no longer be in the scene.
You break up with the scene text?
Your group text to the scene?
Yeah, I was really drunk and told Six and his fiancée that I was obsessed with her and had a deep hatred for Six and gave Six estrogen to get an edge up on him.
This sounds like a lie.
I mean, I'm not saying the situation sounds like a lie, but just in general, the idea sounds like a lie you would tell somebody.
Like, to actually go through with dosing somebody with estrogen is fucking...
Crazy.
And if he did it, absolutely crazy.
I could also see just saying that.
It's like when you're super drunk and want to be as fucked up as possible, you know?
I don't know.
The whole thing's weird.
I think he's probably thought about it.
I think he's definitely considered it, if not done it, you know?
I don't give him the benefit of the doubt.
I would have kicked him out of the band, too.
Yeah, totally, yeah.
But I'm just saying, we're never going to get closure on this, unfortunately.
I can see it happening.
I can see this happening for real.
Yeah, I mean, I can see it happening, too, I guess.
Yeah, I can see it happening for real, because it'd be a weird thing to claim and then not immediately be like, J.K., J.K., J.K.
Cause that's not how it went.
Like, I think he, I think he like, just say any, just say that you're like into your bandmate slash friends partner in the first place is already wild enough.
Sure.
Yes.
I feel like it's probably harder to get estrogen that would actually do something to somebody, you know?
I don't think he did it right or correctly.
I think there was like an attempt to do something like that.
I think he, like, used something that is, like, designed to lower your T or something like that.
I don't think he actually successfully or in an effective manner.
I think he probably did put something in there to fuck with him.
Cause it does, it does sound like almost like a horror story, like a, like a woke gone mad or like a whatever gender madness, you know, to, to scare dudes into thinking they could be slipped an estrogen pill.
Estrogen is going to be like the, like the, the fentanyl.
Or the roofie for guys, you know?
But I love some of these responses.
So this is from the PRP, which is like a metal, metal, hardcore website.
Grandpa says typical leftist psychopath.
Who?
The person who acknowledged that gender was real.
And could be manipulated with hormones.
That gender is largely a result of hormones.
Okay, yep.
I didn't even think about that.
That's so funny.
Oh my god.
No, I don't know.
I'm just joking.
I think you're right though.
I'm just joking.
I think you're right though.
Yeah.
I think it was, like, he's a leftist psychopath because he believes it's possible.
Yeah.
And like, just, oh, because I was thinking the opposite.
I was thinking, like, this, I wouldn't call this guy a leftist.
But again, if you acknowledge that transition is possible, that isn't an issue.
Yeah, no, he's a trans ally.
Wow!
That's... He loves trans people so much.
He's just trying to have... I want another one in the world.
I can't believe that's how that's being read.
It would be funny, though, if he was successful and then he fell in love with his friend instead of his friend's partner.
Antifa Magnet replies, if anything, this is some ooga booga little dick righty meathead shit.
I mean, yeah, it seems probably mostly apolitical, but if you could describe like.
I don't know your actions towards women as political, which a lot of the times you can.
It does seem like more of a.
More of a right-wing reactionary thing to do, you know?
Yeah, especially if you worked at a supplement store and if they were about that gym life.
It definitely seems like some gym bro shit to do.
Could be, yeah.
Grandpa replies, no it isn't you stupid queef.
Go cry about how you don't understand reality that sex is a binary loser.
Yeah, so I mean yeah, just acknowledging gender hormones all that shit is leftist psychopathy then if you look at grandpa's Profile pic.
Sorry Tony It's a but it's AI of black like Renaissance paintings of black Kings eating watermelon And you know what?
Joke's on you, Grandpa, because that is something that like royalty used to do is have depictions of them eating fruits because fruits were hard to come by.
OK, so you know what?
And you know what?
Watermelon is delicious.
And so fuck you.
And you actually made people look cool in your attempt to be racist.
They just look fucking cool.
I just love being like, typical leftist psychopathy.
Uh, why yes, my profile pic that I use to represent myself on this site is shockingly racist imagery that I had a computer generate for me.
It's a screen grab of a tweet of that.
Uh, yeah.
Wiggin, whose profile pic is anti-communist action.
So, uh, fascist.
He's got the yellow flag for, I think, like, ANCAP, yellow and black.
Can you hear that noise?
Yeah.
OK, it might have been my phone.
I don't know.
Might have been my phone.
I threw mine in the classroom right now, too.
Wiggin says, um, so about before spemming your bandmate.
Wiggin says, um, this is a crime, you know.
I love being a fascist and being like, should we really be bimbo-fying our bandmates in 2024?
Yeah, yeah, not cool.
Yeah, yeah, not not cool.
Uh, this is a crime, you know, I could probably find many crimes this could fall under.
But one is but one is one people do get charged for frequently.
18 U.S.
Code 1365, tampering with a consumer product with reckless regard.
Boom!
Got your ass.
Federal crime.
Oh, that's right.
And if the company of the pre-workout that he used had the American flag imagery in their logo at all, boom, that's misuse of flag code.
Yeah.
You can get them arrested for that really quickly, actually.
Fuck them up, fam.
That's right.
Then there's many states that have, quote, unauthorized food manipulation, contamination.
Yeah.
You could probably you might you're you're in Tennessee, so you might be able to use a law designed to prevent from feeding homeless people.
Yep.
To charge your bandmate with force-femming you with pre-workout.
You could say, well, he was trying to help me with my nutrition illegally.
It's like the equivalent to, like, dumpster diving.
Like, that's illegal.
Yeah.
I don't know how they phrase it, but yeah, it would be that same thing.
It's like, this is supposed to be disposed of and you redistributed it.
Oh, they wouldn't say redistributed it.
That sounds too cool.
Uh, then there's poisoning, all states have, and messing with someone's fucking hormones is basically forced transition.
Which, no matter what a certain community states, it's horrible for the body to take a lot of the opposite hormone your sex produces, i.e.
men taking estrogen, or vice versa.
Yes, men have a tiny bit naturally, like women have a tiny bit of test, but when you push it, it starts to really destroy the liver, kidneys, and organs in general.
It also robs a man of his sex drive as well.
All that being said, how did that bandmate not SNAP when he found out?
I'd be legit plotting the most cold revenge after I win my lawsuit against dude.
It would have been worth it force femming me just so I could get revenge on him.
I love that mentality too because like my first reaction is like oh shit it's on site I'm gonna go beat his legs.
But he's like, after we go to court, I'm going to do the most cold revenge.
It's going to be a long play, brother.
I'm going to put him in prison and then make him hook up with his own daughter 30 years later.
This is from Metal Injection, the website Metal Injection reported on this.
Greg Sucks.
So the author of this article was Greg Kennedy.
That's an author.
It's one of the metal injection contributors.
This person's name in the comments is Greg Sucks.
Dang.
I thought that was the comment, and then there was a sub-comment, but now I realize, wow.
That's fucking brutal.
Greg Canalty needs to have his food checked for estrogen, because it shows in his writing.
And then, Greg is a cuck replies.
Poor Greg!
That explains a lot.
Fucking Greg hate crew, man.
That's fucking brutal.
Brian needs to do an episode of Guys, of guys who hate Greg.
Metal Injection.
Greg haters.
Dude, Metal Injection's kind of fucked up.
Like, don't you just like, how do you not just immediately ban people that are like, coming at your writers that way?
Yeah, I know.
I don't know.
You should.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, it's clicks.
These people are probably the most loyal readers of Metal Injection there are, so.
Also on Metal Injection Rat says yo, this is my band.
Please take this down And then replying to that is Greg K is a jag Says am I is doing you a favor by posting this story?
Nobody would know who this band is.
Otherwise 16 up votes and I do like a guy Whose username is Greg K is a Jag.
Saying that, the article that Greg K wrote, was a favor.
He did well by posting this.
Like, pick a lane, buddy.
My head is spinning.
First I get forced transition by my bandmate, and now I got Greg K haters telling me what a great article Greg K wrote.
Up is down, left is right.
And Rat replies, dude, that's the point.
This band isn't supposed to blow up or get big.
I love the idea that Metal Injection is actually doing you a favor by reporting on how psychotic your singer was.
And I do want to say it really does suck that this band didn't have any music recorded.
Yeah.
If you had music recorded, and it also sucks that it was a lead singer.
Lead singer, probably the hardest member of the band to replace.
I mean, not if you're nobody, but you could have had like easily 25,000 streams off of this reporting.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
But Rat also says, dude, that's not the point.
This band isn't supposed to blow up or get big.
We are a DIY band.
We just want to stay that way.
We had no desire to be popular or huge.
We just wanted to be another band in our scene.
This has 10 down votes.
Yeah, I'm giving that a down vote.
Calm down.
Fart.
We suck.
We don't want to be.
We don't want to be good.
We don't want anyone to like us.
We actually we're doing this just to be annoying.
Actually, I just love like this person is like I'm in the story like everybody saying, oh, this is a fucking crazy leftist who did this to another.
Like I'm the person that had that done to me.
Don't you sympathize?
You know, I'm that person or I'm a I'm a friend of that of that person, you know, and then other people were just assuming that this was.
The singer, like in other replies, they were like, whatever, whatever hormone rapist.
And it's like, what do you, like, do you, do you not understand that there's other people in this story who might also not want, you know, they made, they did make the original mistake of posting it to their Instagram of probably like, you know, a couple hundred people or something like that.
Like they never needed to know this.
But I see once fucking Metal Inject, once LambGoat picks it up, you probably want to cut it off immediately.
Yeah.
As quickly as possible.
But I do like the people just like turning on this person.
Like, please, this is about me.
Like, however horrible it is for you to read, like, I had to live it.
And they're like, shut the fuck up.
You're welcome for the clout.
That you can do nothing with at this point.
Glassjaw78 says, I hate to say it, but perhaps Ronnie Radke was right.
Just so embarrassing.
Such an embarrassing comment from somebody who likes Glassjaw.
Is that, but I don't know if that's about the band.
I think that's about the, I think that's the phrase.
In the metal group?
Yeah.
This person right below them has a Glassjaw profile pic as their avatar.
I think that's coincidental.
Well, it's coincidental, but it's because they're both on a music commenting site.
I think Glass, if you're on a music commenting site, your name's Glassjaw.
If you're in a box, if you're in a boxing... But what's the 78's team?
His birthday.
Born in 1978.
I don't think Kenny Owens was born in 1978.
Did you never see a username before 2008?
I just don't think... I don't know.
Maybe I'm just... Why am I in such denial of a Glassjaw fan being this stupid?
Yeah, you are giving us too much credit.
I know why I'm doing that, yeah.
Ronnie Radke, the psychopath, talking about how there's too many communists and trans people in music or whatever.
Perhaps he was right because somebody else also tried to weaponize gender issues or whatever.
Who is that?
He's just a bad dude?
- Yeah, dude. - He sings in that shitty like pop punk, pop punk mixed with deathcore type music, like Hot Topic stuff.
- Oh yeah.
- Falling in Reverse.
He also-- - But this band who I've never heard one song of, but for some reason they're always playing to like 50,000 people.
Yeah.
He also, he, I think he raps in some songs too.
Just like a total, a total joke of a band that like only people too young to know any better would like.
You know, one of the, one of those kinds of bands, um, who's been, yeah, very vocal on social media, like having beef with actual hardcore bands.
Like, It wasn't Jell, it was some other... Oh, it wasn't Sans Squeeze Kebab, it was like some other fucking metal or hardcore band was like, joking about him calling them out in the DMs and shit like that, and they were just making fun of him on Twitter.
The guy's a joke.
Guy's an insane, insane joke, but he's got a big mouth on Twitter.
Elemento, whatever, the guy who has the glass jaw, Profile pic for Material Control.
Pretty good album.
Pretty good comeback album from Glassjaw, I do have to say.
Says, I wonder how a hardcore cover of Dude Looks Like a Lady would sound?
And this was a joke that a lot of people made, which I was kind of surprised by because that song is 40 years old now.
30, 40 years old at this point.
What, an Aerosmith song?
You know that song was not made just for Mrs. Doubtfire.
That song actually existed like 10 years before Mrs. Doubtfire came out.
I don't, I've never understood the lyrics of that song.
Like, is it meant to be a criticism of someone else, or is it meant to be a criticism leveled at Steven Tyler, who looks like a lady?
I don't, like, I don't, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way.
I'm just, like, he, I don't, I don't understand.
I don't understand what's happening in that song.
I didn't even listen to that, because are they, like, saying, like, good for him, or are they, like, saying, what a weirdo?
Uh, it's probably pretty funky, and you'll have to look at context clues to know whether that means good or bad.
It's probably about David Bowie.
Probably.
And that makes it cool.
But I wonder how a hardcore cover of Dude Looks Like a Lady would sound.
Honestly, now that I think about it, probably pretty gnarly.
You know what I mean?
Whoa, this sounds gnarly!
Fucking heart!
Pop Punk goes transphobic!
I can imagine one of those like Instagram metal vocalists who just like has a booth and a mic.
It's done.
It's been done.
I guarantee you there's at least three videos of that on TikTok right now.
Some woman in a ghost shirt who does like a deep growl.
There's a hardcore version of dude looks like a lady as screamed by Belle from Beauty and the Beast.
You know what I mean?
Like that's there.
But you know what?
But it sounds pretty gnarly. - Yeah. - Sammy Kerr says, "Mayhem was burning down churches." And And Doe says, glad I strictly listen to black metal and not hardcore.
And this is the last couple comments that I wanted to read here for this story.
Yeah, this is obviously like, what's going on in hardcore?
They're fricking changing their genders as a whatever, as like a...
As an attack like that's how they fight yeah is by changing genders I guess is the criticism and mayhem was fucking burning down churches This is why I listen to real music like black metal.
Yeah, and I would just argue Force force transitioning somebody way more fucked up than burning down a church super Wait like that's that's like You're talking about mayhem or whatever.
That's like, that's like grind.
That's like gore grind shit.
Force, force transition.
It's like some like Pig Destroyer probably has a song about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Cause this is fucked up, but that's just a building.
Like at the end of the day, if you believe what you believe, you're supposed to believe that's just a building.
You know, and it's okay to destroy property, but like, no, this is something, this is like someone's wellbeing in life.
Like that's gnarly.
Also, I mean like mayhem, this is like the guys who shot each other.
You know what I mean?
Like, uh, they did worse things than burning down, burning down a church.
And also I think you can find plenty of poser bands that shoot each other.
That's true.
That's solely true.
Uh, so I, I, for one, uh, I thank Yorona, the singer of Yorona for raising the bar for insane things that band members can do to each other.
That's, uh, that, you know, me, me and previous band members, we've like almost come to blows, you know, once or twice, or, um, you know, maybe we, we flipped a switch on somebody's gear without telling them, you know, uh, never, never tried to transition any of them.
Yeah.
And I mean, can't say it's not ever gonna not happen, but yeah, I've never done it either.
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