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March 24, 2020 - Minion Death Cult
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This has helped me, as a white woman, send in my vote for Biden with a little less disgust

This week we examine a viral post about how Joe Biden is a White Ally for being Vice President to a black man, radical liberalism (smashing old white men with hammers), and white women trying to compensate for their whiteness by loudly hating white men. Listen to our episode on Pod Damn America Support the show and get a bonus episode every week at www.patreon.com/miniondeathcult Music: Craft - F*ck the Universe

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The liberals are destroying California, and conservative humor gone awry... Conservative humor gone awry is going to fascistphonia today, so stay tuned.
We're going to take a few pictures of the desert and how their policies are actually messing it up.
It's not beautiful when you go across that border.
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Oh, they're in Barney, Boston.
Stay tuned.
I'm recording, give me two seconds to do this to get a cough out of the way.
What was the cough Kidz Bop joke?
I don't get that joke.
It's a really stupid fucking joke.
So, cough, the band, cough.
Yeah, I'm familiar.
A Kidz Bop version of it called Kroop, because Kroop is a cough that only babies get.
Okay, so you have to be like a dad to get that joke.
You have to be both like a parent and like know who the band Koff is.
I had one half of that.
Because Penny just got croup and they were saying, yeah, she only had like a year left to get it.
She was never going to have a chance to get it next year.
Well good, cross that off her little bucket list.
Her little Mr. Bucket list.
Well it's like chicken pox.
If you don't get croup when you're a baby, Then you just get death when you're like a grown-up.
Cough is tight.
What's that other like black metal band, The Craft or whatever?
Both of those bands are really tight.
Yeah, I think it's The Craft.
I forgot about those bands.
Yeah, Cough is sick.
It's funny, I made that joke just to kind of say it out loud, just because I was thinking it, you know?
Yeah.
And to my boss, and he laughed like he knew what I was talking about.
I was like, you don't fucking know who I'm talking about right now.
You don't get-- Well, see, I try to be a good friend, Tony.
I really do.
I don't have to try.
I consider myself a good friend, but I'm also conscientious of our friendship.
But I'm also honest.
I'm also honest to a fault.
And I looked at that tweet, and I couldn't understand.
I knew there was a reason.
I knew that it wasn't from nowhere.
I knew that it was funny somehow.
But I didn't understand it, so I couldn't retweet it.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
You're like, man, this guy's got to get his typos together.
This shit doesn't make any sense.
No, it was more like, I'm going to retweet this, and somebody's going to reply to me and you, and I'm not going to understand what they're saying.
I'm not going to be able to hold my own in this conversation.
Like, I didn't expect anybody to get that.
Like, the only person who I was hoping would... If, like, John Darnielle sees it, he'll be like, yep.
Yep, I get this joke.
But that's it.
Like, no one's gonna get that.
That joke was so stupid.
But those are my favorite ones.
Those are just for me.
Um... To be fair, like, Jaundice does kind of sound like an emo band.
Oh, no, I was saying that Kroop would be a name of a really good like shoegaze band.
I think Kroop would be a good name of a shoegaze band for sure.
Is it two O's?
How is it spelled?
Oh, I think the band might be two O's for sure.
Because that's, yeah, with two O's you're getting into loop.
You're getting into the loop area.
Yeah, exactly.
Which is, god, not quite shoegaze, more like, you know, grunge, I don't know, proto-shoegaze.
Kroop for sure, but jaundice definitely sounds like a slowcore or like an emo band.
Yeah, I would listen to jaundice.
For sure.
My dad had jaundice so bad when he was born, he had to have a full blood transfusion.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
How do they tell when black babies have jaundice?
Uh, same thing.
It's really weird.
It's the same thing.
You're still, like, yellow-ish.
Um, but just, you know.
Think of yellow tint.
Um, but, uh, um... When... When black babies get it, it's really bad.
It's, like, even more deadly?
Yeah, exactly.
Because we're pretty resilient, so it has to be really strong to, like, take hold.
Uh... Um...
Kroop is like the Chad Elite band name, you know, that's the Shoegaze band, versus the Virgin Cradle Cough, like Deathcore band.
That's exactly what Kroop is.
Kroop is Cradle Cough.
Yeah, but like, only a poser would name their band Cradle Cough.
yeah it's like a fake black metal band that's like a that's like a uh sub cradle of filth band yep yep that's yeah uh and they're gonna like accidentally tour together because some asshole's gonna like they're gonna play the same show the same fest it'll be cradle fest yeah be cradle cradle of filth cradle cough and croup and and kralis
Cradle of Filth is a great name for like a song or an album.
But that's it.
That's it.
Yeah.
Are they the ones with Jesus is a cunt on the back of the shirt?
Yeah.
They tried.
They tried to redeem.
They tried to make up for it.
That's a good shirt.
They had like really, really gnarly album covers, I think.
But they were like cannibal corpse-esque.
But the dude also wore like a Hot Topic ring, claws, you know?
It's like that kind of band.
Probably.
What's up everybody?
I'm Alexander Edward.
And I'm Tony Boswell.
And we are Minion Death Cult.
The world is ending.
Feminism in the Air Force is responsible.
We're documenting it.
Yeah, so it's your regular episode for the week.
Things are hairy right now.
Our schedules are both weird.
I am working more than ever.
Tony is also working a lot.
We are still determined to get content out to you during these trying times.
Yes, yes.
We know how important it is.
We know that you need to hear our sweet, sweet voices as you do nothing all day.
Just play this one on loop in the background.
We're going to make sure it sounds really nice.
Yeah, I mean, if the revolution... I mean, I guess we're being charitable here, calling the corona outbreak anywhere near a revolution, but if... Let's just say pandemic instead of revolution.
If the pandemic doesn't have content, I don't want it.
No.
Keep it.
If your pandemic doesn't have good content, keep it.
What's the point?
You know, honestly, if you guys aren't all starting your own podcast right now... Oh, hang on.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Then just stop.
Alright, let's not go crazy here.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's not enable the competition here.
I don't want to hear it.
But do it like in the shower, like we do songs.
Just do it in the shower.
Podcasts, it's just like a singing voice.
Podcasts sound so good in the shower.
So good in the shower.
Give that a few test runs first.
Amazing acoustics for podcasting in the shower.
Hey, I wouldn't want to be part of any pandemic that would have me as a content creator.
So yeah, what's up?
We're talking stuff from... Let's start off here.
This is an amazing post.
This is a viral post, okay?
People are...
Somewhat gobsmacked, flabbergasted at the ascent of Joe Biden, okay?
I mean, we've had like a week, a week and a half to kind of reckon with it, to soak it in, to accept it.
It's still a little mystifying, right?
And I think it can be traced back to his win in South Carolina.
Um, neither Tony nor I am from South Carolina.
That's correct, Tony, right?
Yeah, and I'm not from South Carolina, no.
He won overwhelmingly in South Carolina, the Democratic primary of which relies heavily on older black voters in that area.
Now, some would say that older black voters tend to be more conservative.
They are not particularly representative of the black community as a whole.
They're not a monolith, just like any other demographic.
But we have a post here that might shed light as to why Joe Biden did so well in South Carolina.
This is from a user named, a Facebook user named Lori Goff, not Golf, which I kind of read.
So this, this post was copied and pasted.
So this post was shared 6,000 times.
It's got 8.4 thousand likes and loves, but it was also copied and pasted.
I saw this post Like, disassociated, disembodied from Lori's Facebook page, from her post, okay?
This was extremely viral.
This went hyper-viral.
Went viral in all the Blue No Matter Who groups, and all the Joe Biden groups, and all the, like, shit-lib, the very few shit-lib friends I have.
One of whom just blocked me, I believe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It happened.
It's real.
I was like, oh, this person got so mad at Joe Biden disappearing from the primary, from the face of the earth in the face of a pandemic, that she deleted her Facebook account.
Oh, no, she just blocked me.
She's blocked you, yeah.
She just blocked me because I was telling some truth about the DNC and their response to the coronavirus, I think.
Well, I will say about this person, this person is not a big fan of the truth.
Just not a big fan.
Yeah, this person, the last thing they shared was a screenshot of a Barack Obama tweet, so it's like, you know.
This person, I talked about it, so we were recently on Pod Damn America, by the way, go listen to that episode, very fun to get a lot of the COVID-19 stuff out of our system that we weren't able to cover last week.
It's like half an episode of Minion Death Cult.
I would recommend going to listen to that episode of Pod Damn America, thanks to Jake for having us on.
Yeah, we ruled.
But we were chatting after the episode, I don't think it made it onto the episode, but this person that we're talking about is the person who is like the most radical liberal I know.
Yeah.
Like, when we talk about, like, rad lib politics.
I don't know what that means.
Like, rad lib, rad femme.
I don't quite know what that means.
I think it means, like, being really angry or being, like, really extreme while you're also, like, a centrist.
That's exactly what it means.
It's standing really, really hard for nothing.
It's like meaning nothing really, really hard.
It's like taking direct action to get female CEOs.
Yeah.
It's like throwing pipe bombs and shit at Amazon until they hire a female chief financial operator.
Yeah, and then we're good.
This person, when Elizabeth Warren dropped out, this person who blocked me, that's who we're talking about.
When Elizabeth Warren dropped out, this person changed their Facebook profile pic to the hammer emoji smashing the head of the old white man emoji.
Yes.
It was incredible.
And when you told me that, I thought you were making it up, and then I saw it.
It's like... I kind of... I kind of admire it.
Because that's, like, real politic.
That's like, no, let's kill all old white men so only old white women get to be president.
Yes.
Like, you're admitting that you need, like, somebody needs to do what it takes to get a female neoliberal president.
Including like exactly including like burning something down like they're ready to like he said burn it down for Just just getting just getting a woman inside of a chair somewhere.
Yeah.
No, it doesn't matter like Joe Biden Bernie Sanders They're both old white men That's what matters.
They're the same to me.
Smash them in.
Smash and get rid of them.
Throw them in the trash.
So anyway, I think this person copied and pasted this post.
Should you read this, Tony?
I should read it, but it's also very long and I'm not as good at reading as you are.
So I'm going to go ahead and give you the, uh, what's like the post equivalent of like the end card?
You don't get the end card.
You get the, you get the postcard.
You get a postcard.
Here's a, I'm giving you a postcard.
You can read it now.
All right.
I've talked to the black caucus and you're allowed to read this post.
I get the black post pass here.
Yeah.
All right.
So Lori Gough says, Let me explain something to you about Joe Biden and why some of the shit that he's done in his past doesn't matter.
Mind you, like, Lori Goff is a black woman, which is, like, the most things you can be to hate Joe Biden.
Like, Joe Biden doesn't only hate women, but he hates black people, and he must really hate black women.
So like, it's a perfect combo.
If Lori, if Lori Goff is like working for a wage and has also ever bought drugs, she is like, she has the most reasons to hate Joe Biden.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's also, I think she's also wearing like a backwards Kangol.
I think you're right, yeah.
It's either like a Soviet fuzzy hat or a backwards Kangol and using context clues I'm going to guess that it's an LL Cool J Kangol.
Yeah, especially because she keeps on saying hip-hop hip-hop throughout this post which is a weird move.
Let me explain something to you about why Joe Biden Why some of the shit that he's done in his past doesn't matter.
So this is like a direct, she doesn't actually say what shit she's talking about, but she means like defending segregation, authoring the crime bill, talking about bulldozing drug dealers' houses and shit.
Yeah.
Like every insane thing that Joe Biden has said about how he doesn't want his kids to grow up in a racial jungle.
Let me explain to you why that shit doesn't matter.
This old rich white man played second fiddle to a black man.
Not just any black man, but a younger black man.
A smart black man.
So, like, he's humble.
He's humble, so he must be good.
He was humble enough to be Vice President of the United States of America.
You know, like, the second highest office in the land.
Yeah it's and as if as if like he was like I know he was asked to do it He couldn't really say no, and also why would he ever say no to that?
There's no way that this has anything to do with him being humble.
You're being offered a very powerful position.
This is not a humble thing.
Just to clarify something, the position itself isn't necessarily very powerful, at least compared to the presidency, but it's more probably, I'd say objectively, more powerful than any other position.
I'm sorry, a lot of us here have seen the movie Vice and we all know the truth about how powerful the VP is.
I'm imagining Joe Biden operating at the level of Dick Cheney and just laughing my ass off.
The idea that Joe Biden could manipulate and through sheer force of will and personality direct the presidency of Barack Obama is...
Very funny.
It would last like a week because there'd be like no finesse.
It would just be like finger to the chest calling Barack Obama jack.
And just like, like, are you assaulting him right now?
What's happening?
You can't you can't fucking do that.
Well, this so there's so much going this this post goes on.
Okay, but there's there's so much more.
So Joe Biden played second fiddle, not just to a black man, not just any black man, but a younger black man, a smart black man.
So those are like better qualifiers for a position.
If you're smarter and you're younger, you're more able.
That's automatically, like, if you're dealing with the hierarchy of the U.S.
government, like, that's what happens.
It's like, yeah, of course.
Oh, he was willing to be subordinate to somebody better than him.
Can you believe that?
Can you believe it?
Yeah.
But no, this guy was not only not better, but he was also a minority and young.
So he's definitely not better.
But remember, I don't know if you remember this, Tony, one of the things that Joe Biden said, you know, in praising Barack Obama was that not only was Barack Obama smart, young and black, he was also clean.
He was also articulate.
So it's true.
It's weird that Lori leaves off those qualifiers here when she's talking about how Joe Biden subordinated himself.
Not just for a day, not one, not two, but eight years.
Obama was also clean.
Yep.
Very clean.
Very clean for a black man.
Yeah, I mean, not offensive smelling at all.
Not just for a day, not one, not two, but eight years.
Yep.
Yeah, that's how that works.
That's, this is remarkable.
He was, listen, he worked for the company that was the U.S.
government, not just for one day, not just for two days, not just for three days, not just for four days, not even, no, not even eight days!
Not 11 months, not 12 months, not 13 months.
Whoa.
Fuck out of here.
This guy is just... He's a real deal.
Wow.
Fortitude, endurance, dedication.
The reason Joe Biden was picked as Vice President was because he was racist.
He was racist and appealed to racists.
They literally had to bring somebody on who was the opposite of Barack Obama to get white people to get on board with him fully, who weren't already on board with him, you know?
They had to bring someone who was more conservative, who was like a white man, and like you said, who was straight up racist.
They had to do that just to be like, okay, well, you know, we might have Barack Obama in the office, but maybe we can do something about busing now.
Maybe now we can do something about busing.
That was like the whole appeal of him.
Listen Jack, Obama's not even full black.
He's half black, alright?
And he went to Harvard, okay?
Yeah, you definitely can't be black at Harvard.
Incredible.
So Joe Biden took his cues from this black man who had more power than him and was virtually unknown when he took the presidency and Joe Biden had been around forever.
Okay.
In fucking Delaware.
Yeah.
In Delaware.
Dude, which I had forgotten about until you just said it right now.
No one knew who the fuck Joe Biden was.
Sorry to our listeners in Delaware, but people don't even remember the state of Delaware, let alone one of the senators from the state of Delaware.
Yeah.
No, I couldn't tell you where it is.
It's on the continental US, right?
It is.
It's not offshore somewhere.
It's not a territory.
It's a state.
I think it's in the Midwest.
I think there's a screen door factory there in Wilmington.
If the Simpsons has taught me anything.
Once again, the sliver of knowledge you know from the Simpsons.
Not a- okay.
He was willing and proud to be his wingman.
Yes, of course, because he's- fucking vice presidency is like the biggest thing that had ever been offered to Joe Biden.
It's a jumping off point for a- like- The idea that you have to humble yourself to be Vice President of the United States is fucking absurd.
The only person who would have ever had to humble themselves to be Vice President of the United States is Hillary Clinton.
Yep.
That's the only person whatsoever.
I mean, maybe you take a former president and ask them to be your vice president.
I don't know how legal that is.
They would probably have to be like, no, that's fine.
I don't want that.
No, I'm good.
I don't, yeah, I can't do that.
But like, I love the idea of Joe Biden or who was it?
Who was it that was, there was like rumors that somebody was asking, gonna ask Hillary to be their VP.
Was it Biden?
This was like, this was while Bernie was still the frontrunner.
I think it would have had to have been Biden.
And aside from like, even including the theory that Biden would drop out and whoever his vice presidential running mate would assume the presidency or whatever, I think Hillary, like, would be offended by that idea.
Yeah, no way she would do that.
No way.
I don't think she would do that.
Especially not for Biden.
I don't think she would do that at all.
Well, even if it would get her, for anybody, even if it would get her the presidency, I think that, like, her ego would prevent her from... God, who was it?
Was it Pete?
It might have been Biden.
I remember when somebody was saying that, like, oh, they're floating the idea of offering Hillary Clinton the president.
I'm like, Hillary Clinton is so upset that this is a rumor.
Hillary Clinton is extremely offended that there's a rumor going around that somebody is picking her as their VP.
Are you fucking kidding me?
I would love to hear the noise that Hillary Clinton would make if Amy Klobuchar was doing well and called her and asked her to be VP.
She would probably scream.
Like, she would probably, like, rage.
That noise would be, like, a neck snapping.
Oh, yeah.
That's whoever brought her that message.
Is dead, yeah.
Not once.
He was willing and proud to be his wingman.
I love that.
Wingman.
Vice President Wingman.
When you're going to get laid by Wall Street and various other lobbying firms, you need a strong wingman like Joe Biden to help show the insurance companies around your home.
Not once did he try to undermine him, this black man.
And I mean, Joe Biden came out in favor of gay rights before Obama.
He let it slip, so I think that would count.
Instead, Joe walked in lockstep with him.
He respected him.
He loved and trusted him.
He was led by him and learned from him.
And Joe did not have a problem with it.
You tell me what 40 plus year, quote, establishment white politician has ever done that.
There are literally more pictures of Obama and Bush together since the presidency than Obama and Biden.
That's a really good point.
I didn't even think about that.
Yeah, because he and Biden are supposed to be like bros, right?
They're supposed to be like barbecue bros or whatever.
But yeah, I haven't seen them interact once since.
No, I can't recall.
He's like, I only hang out with other presidents now, actually.
Sorry bud, you don't quite make the club.
Yeah, but I mean, hopefully, November, fingers crossed.
One day.
I love this, like, you tell me what 40-plus-year-old white establishment politician has ever been vice president to a black president.
There's literally no other white establishment politician who's done that.
Not once.
Not once.
Oh my god, could you imagine like a full black ticket?
Jeez.
Like, that would be insane.
People were happy with, like, people were happy with a white vice president because they can think to themselves, like, um, oh, it's cool, like, he can still become president because, you know, the black guy might die.
When I, when I kill, when I personally kill the black president, it's okay because, uh, the vice president is white.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
It's a, it's, it's just trying to fix things.
I love this.
Yeah, people talk a lot about how Obama was the first black president, but people don't really talk about how Joe Biden was the first white vice president.
That is a really big deal.
First white vice president to a black man.
Let's give him some credit for being a white vice president.
Let's have one for the underdogs, you know?
Let's pour one out for the underdogs.
This is so fucking stupid!
Where's the Hall of Vice Presidents?
you know um who Biden is cut from a different cloth and black folks understand that and for good reason He has shown it.
This is what showing up and being an ally looks like.
What?
What part of this is allyship?
What the fuck is he doing or saying for us?
Shut the fuck up!
All you white people that want to criticize Joe Biden and support Bernie Sanders, yeah, would you be the vice president to a black president?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
No, no.
You know what though?
He does really speak to us.
He tells us about how he used to let black kids touch his legs and he knows about cockroaches.
And he knows about cockroaches.
He does be knowing about cockroaches.
Hey, hey, Joe Biden, you familiar with cockroaches?
You're invited to the cookout.
You can come to the cookout.
Where is she getting this from?
What is he doing?
I said, what is he doing or saying that speaks to and for us black America?
He doesn't say shit that appeals to me.
There's like a huge generational divide between supporters, and that goes across the board.
That's not just black voters.
That's across the board.
There's a huge generational divide when it comes to support of Joe Biden, and it's no surprise that that includes black voters.
It's not rocket science here.
You don't need to come up with like...
You don't need to come up with some white allyship woke explanation to describe how the segregationist appeals to older black voters.
It's mostly because of his name recognition.
That's what it is.
It's because he was on TV for 8 years.
And he looked so charming for eight years.
He looked charming for ten years.
He just looked so charming all the time, and everybody liked him.
Uncle Joe, you know?
It's that whole... It's that fucking Parks and Rec thing.
That's a huge part of what... Parks and Rec is a lot of the reason why he's doing so well, and it fucking makes me furious.
It's... I'm a big fan of Parks and Rec.
Me too, me too.
Yeah, Leslie Knope is like a detestable figure.
I mean, she's not like... She's charming, but she sucks.
Hey, she is a girl boss.
Oh yeah.
She's a girl boss.
She's a girl boss, which is why she had the authority to universally lay off the entire UCB comedy crew.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that reality, that real life.
Hey, sometimes girls just gotta boss and do massive layoffs without pensions or without, you know, two week notices or anything, you know?
What was I going to say here?
Dammit, now I gotta edit because I don't remember what I was going to say.
You were going to say, listen, sometimes the boss pants are actually a boss skirt, but they're just as hard to wear.
No, that's not what I was going to say.
Oh, okay.
Good, because I don't think I liked it, so... Good, don't say that.
What I was going to say is, uh... It's pretty weird how these early states are like Republican states.
In these Democratic primaries.
Yeah.
I don't know whose favor they're trying to... I mean, it's obvious, like, if they're doing anyone favors, it is like...
Because, as we know, the Democratic Party is led by the people who are the most right of something resembling left.
We all know that, so I guess that's how it works, but it sucks.
Like in Iowa, you know, the first state to vote in the Democratic primary, they went for Trump 51% to Hillary's 41%.
That means like, you know, 8%, 9% voted for somebody else other than Hillary just to not vote for Trump. - Um, Why is this the first Democratic primary?
Why is South Carolina... Sorry?
People talk about how... Oh, yeah.
And this is again.
I think... Is this the same episode?
No.
Okay.
For the Patreon episode, we're gonna get into stuff like this.
But...
This is that same shit.
That same shit mistaking demographics for politics.
Mistaking, like, identity for material politics.
Yes.
Oh, how come we have white states as the first to vote?
How come we have, like, all these white bread states as the first to vote?
Like, Iowa and New Hampshire.
We need to get some black states to vote.
Like, South Carolina?
Yeah, what?
I don't understand where that's coming from.
It's not like it's a state that might have a good black population, but doesn't have a lot of black representation in the politics themselves.
Is that being expressed through who's being put in office there?
I don't think so.
I don't think that's how it's working.
Like you said, this is still a Republican Republican state.
Well yeah, on the state level it's Republican.
There's probably several black congressional seats in that state, which is important.
It's not meant to discount individual segments of the population in that state, but if we're talking about
Democratic politics on a national level, which is what, you know, the Democratic presidential primary represents, like, uh, there's far more black, brown, Democratic representation in a state like Nevada, in a state like California, in a state like New York, uh, that it's very weird.
The schedule, I, I'm kind of just realizing this.
So we had, we had Iowa, right?
And then we had New Hampshire.
What did New Hampshire do in 2016?
For a second I didn't think you were looking it up and just thought you were expecting me to know that.
New Hampshire, Hillary won New Hampshire by .37%.
Dang.
So it must be pretty blue.
Yeah.
It must be pretty blue if Hillary won.
Won by a point, yeah.
Yeah.
But then what else do we have?
We have Nevada comes next, which is a blue state.
It's trending blue.
And then we have Super Tuesday after that, which contains... I don't want to get too into this.
But it's very striking to me.
It's striking to me that there are these like either Republican or borderline states in the first, you know, in the schedule.
The first in the schedule.
It sets a pace.
It sets a pace for sure.
It's very interesting.
It sucks.
It sucks.
California, I think, was only recently added to Super Tuesday.
I think before it was later.
It wasn't last year.
It wasn't last year.
It wasn't 2016.
Yeah, I don't remember, but I think it was recently added to Super Tuesday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think, you know, I wonder what's going on there.
So let's get into comments from this, unless you had anything more to say about the general... No, it's just this whole thing.
It's just, I don't... It's this whole thing where I don't know Why are we doing this weird pandering?
I don't know why they're saying... I don't know what she's getting at here.
I don't see it.
There's nothing appealing about Joe Biden to me as a black American.
He doesn't speak to me at all and for some reason I think that this is like a defense where people are saying don't do it and she's saying well like watch me.
Don't do what?
Like don't vote for him.
Because I think that's a lot of the thing too is that When people were talking about this, they were saying like, don't be a low information voter.
You know, like don't, don't be stupid and vote for Joe Biden.
And like the response, it makes sense to be like, well, I'm not being stupid.
I know exactly what I'm talking about and that's why I'm doing it.
Instead of, you know, instead of like actually talking and it's like talking about why it's important to be critical of his past.
Um, just saying like, you're an idiot if you do it is, it's not going to cut it.
It's not helpful.
It's like backwards engineering the explanation.
That's what it seems like to me.
And it's like complicating it.
It's like you go with Occam's razor here, in my opinion, which is why did a bunch of people vote for Joe Biden?
It's because of his fucking name recognition.
It's his name recognition and he has like the the halo of the Obama presidency.
Obama is like extremely well liked in the Democratic Party.
And yeah, the primary, I mean the electorate in general, but especially the primary electorate is older.
Overwhelmingly older.
And older people tend to be more conservative.
They tend to be more conservative not only in their politics, but conservative in In a metaphysical sense, in a meta-textual sense.
Yeah, and they're not trying to risk anything.
Exactly.
They're playing it safe, yeah.
Exactly.
Well, part of their logic here is like, oh no, this guy actually knows his way around the White House.
But they're being literal.
They're thinking to themselves, oh, he's been in that building before.
He won't get lost.
He knows how this works.
And that's important.
Everybody on TV is saying he's the presumptive nominee.
Everybody on TV is saying he's the most electable.
He would do the best against Trump.
So, yeah, why not vote for, quote, the safe choice or whatever.
Exactly, yeah.
I gotta shout out my man, Henry, here, okay?
This is my man's right here, okay?
Oh, yeah.
You're fuckin' guy.
This is my guy right here.
Henry... This is a real name, right?
This is a real name?
This is a fuckin' real name as far as I can tell.
This is a real profile, okay?
This guy's not a shit poster.
I went to his profile.
This is a dude.
This is what an ally looks like, Tony.
Okay, we're talking about white allies.
Respect.
This is a white ally.
His name is Henry H Mayo Jr.
Henry H Mayo Jr.
comments on Laurie Goff's post with, I share.
You read that in such a generous fashion.
That was so nice of you.
So stoic.
I share.
That's how I imagined him thinking it in his head while he typed it.
You know how I'm picturing him like some anime kid?
Like, I share.
Like, that's how I pictured it.
Wait, what?
Like, I share.
Like, you know, simple speak.
Oh, well I think that would be more generous.
I think he'd be more generous if he's being ironic in this comment.
Yeah, if he's being like, I share.
I share.
I share.
Yeah, I share.
I share this post.
It's something I'm gonna do.
Listen, I know my last name is Mayo.
I know I have a lot to make up for.
I know I have a lot of work to do.
I share this post.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you, ally.
And his cover photo says, Biden 2020, truth, hope, decency.
And it's a photo of Joe Biden.
Like decency is not a word I think about when I think about Joe Biden at all.
And I think it's like just because he's never said the words gyro by the pussy that people think he's decent.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
100%.
This is like, I mean, this is, I've been saying it for fucking six months at least.
Like, the number one threat of the, well, the number one, like, political threat of the Trump presidency is just lowering the expectations across the board for, for the Democrats.
Like, that's, that's the politically the worst fallout is that Nancy Pelosi can applaud half of Trump's speech and then rip up the paper afterwards and she's a queen for doing so.
You know, that's, that's the, looking from the left, that is like the political danger of this presidency.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
It's all so simple.
They all know how gnarly Trump can be, but for some reason none of them have ran past the hypothetical of, like, imagine this.
Imagine it's a debate, right?
And for some reason some woman has to go up to Joe Biden and adjust his mic, and Trump says on a hot mic, like, don't go too close to him, he's gonna sniff ya.
And like, that's gonna win.
Then he's done.
It's over.
That's it.
It's over.
It will be that simple.
All Trump has to do is acknowledge a widely understood or a widely accepted meme on TV, on CNN.
That's all he has to do.
And it's like, yeah.
What is Biden's defense gonna be?
Like, oh no no no no, they don't care if I sniff them.
Trump's gonna be like, remember when you died for like a month?
Remember when you were dead?
Uh, another comment here.
Bill Biffington.
That's a funny name.
It's a funny name, but I'm on Bill's side, so we're not going to make fun of his name too hard, okay?
Bill Biffington says, that's one characterization, I guess.
Another would be that you pretty much described the job of vice president.
Again, that's the job.
You listen to the president.
The president is your boss.
And it's like, oh my god, this white person deigned to be the employee of a black person.
Yeah.
It's like the job is to be a yes man.
That's it.
And you just had to be a yes man to a black person.
That's just what it is.
And it's more than a yes man though too, because it's like, it's, it's like, you have to carry out their orders.
You're not just like telling them what they want to hear or whatever.
You're like following their direction, you know?
And it's like, yeah, that's what it is.
Like, that's what the job is.
And it's like, You know, I'm not a fan of bosses particularly.
I would make an exception in this case because it's like theoretically you're talking about a political project.
You're talking about like a political movement.
If you have like political ideals, if you have like an actual belief system, And say you're on the left or whatever, not that Obama and Biden were on the left, but theoretically here, you would want to achieve goals for that movement.
So yeah that's like a hierarchy makes sense there it it's not admirable to take a subordinate position in that respect because it's like no democratically people wanted Obama at the top of the ticket.
So your job is to facilitate the people's you know the people's project here which theoretically the democratic candidate would also be trying to you know achieve would would be trying to facilitate or whatever so it's not like it's not like oh my god he wow he listened to a black man it's like No, if these are your fucking ideals, if these are your politics, this is what your job is as a politician.
Yes.
This is not only what your job is, but this is your mission in life.
This is why you've done all this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's not admirable in the least, to me.
That's like a joke.
It's a joke to try and say, oh wow, he was such a good man for listening to the voters.
Oh wow, he was such a good man for listening to the leader of the political movement.
It's like, fuck you, bitch.
That's your job.
Vice President's so weird, too, though, because nobody grows up wanting to be Vice President.
No one can set out to be vice president.
It's like not like something you can like strive for.
But you can strive to be president.
That's why you gotta be senator in like, in like a milquetoast white state.
Exactly.
It's like, it's like a little bit democrat.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
So Bill Biffington said, yeah, you, that's the job of the vice president.
He fucking nailed it.
Marian Harris replies, Not that many VPs served a president that the Republicans wanted to essentially kill off.
And a president that faced such racism among so many in the country.
No, not any VP.
Nope.
He got, like, so he got, like, um, contact racism.
He, like, experienced, like, peripheral racism.
It's his secondhand racism.
Like, what are you trying to say here?
Like, yeah, secondhand racism.
Yeah, it's like, what?
Fuck outta here.
Well, it's... He had to be, he had to be around a black guy while people hated the black guy.
It's not easy.
Listen, he was willing to say, I have a black friend in an era of racism.
Yeah.
Can you imagine your black friend being the president?
Like, that's your black friend?
I mean, I hope one day, Tony.
One day.
We'll get there.
We'll get there.
I just love, like, the implication of this comment.
Not that many VPs would be... Not that many, like, politicians would be willing to be the vice president to somebody that people were gonna kill.
I don't know.
Actually, if you think about it, that's kind of the best VP to be.
Wow, Joe Biden was willing to be the Vice President to somebody who could die at any moment.
What do you call it when you date someone who's really old because they're about to die?
You marry someone really old because they're about to die?
Oh, yeah.
Like a gold digger?
Yeah, that but for the presidency.
He was a trophy VP.
Also, I like the implication that he was willing to take on the black guy.
He was willing to accept the black guy.
Everyone else was racist and he was racist too, but he decided to do it anyways.
This is like, it's almost like the best explanation of the intersection between class and race that we have.
Like...
Yes, racism is a huge factor, but a bunch of white people are willing to overlook racism when it comes to class.
Exactly.
Exactly.
You know, it just goes to show you how powerful class is as a motivator.
Yeah.
This fucking comment.
Oh my God, there's so much more.
Where are we at on time?
We're at 51 minutes.
All right.
Linda Schlapp says, on my previous post, I thanked you for opening my eyes to see Joe Biden in a different light, but I also want to thank you for something else.
So she's commenting on Lori Goff's... She's talking to Lori Goff.
I want to thank you for making me see my white privilege as well.
You reminded me that it is the exception, not the norm, for a person of color to be treated with the respect they deserve.
That it is so unusual for a white person to treat a black person with dignity, to learn from them, to respect their intelligence, to see beyond the color of their skin.
That you needed to point this out to the world so that white people would understand what people of color face on a daily basis.
I promise I will try my hardest to do better and to educate and to push my fellow white people to do the same.
Thank you.
Wow.
Linda Schlapp is like fucking 40 years old.
It took a while.
It took a while.
I'm really happy that racism is dead.
I'm really happy that this post destroyed racism.
You, it took a post about how Joe Biden is a good white man for being vice president to a black man for you to understand racism.
Yeah.
Insane.
This comment is like, I mean, this comment was one of the top comments.
It's got 165 likes and loves.
This is like some of the most performative bullshit I've ever seen.
This is like, I didn't know what racism was until I saw Joe Biden subordinate himself to a black man.
And then I was like, yeah, that's the example.
What a sacrifice.
What a sacrifice this white man did for a black man.
And now I understand.
It's like that the Obama presidency was a lot for a lot of people was like uh remember the titans it had like the same gave the same feeling you know sometimes you know You gotta be the white quarterback who gets hurt and lets the black guy do stuff.
That's how that movie's about, right?
Uh-huh.
Yeah, something about that.
Something about that, yeah, totally.
I'm not a good ally because I hate my boss, who happens to be black.
I'm sorry.
Oh no, oh no.
My center manager's a black man, and I find the way he talks to us very insulting.
And also just, you know, the dynamic relationship between boss and employee grates on me personally, so I will try to do better as an ally.
Yeah, learn a thing or two from Joe Biden, Alex.
Ziva Hirsch-Allen says, if, parentheses, as a white person, I could- We know.
We know.
We know you're a white person.
If, as a white person, I could please interject.
Please.
Please.
We would love to hear from you, Ziva.
Dot dot dot.
And express that I'm pissed that after such a wide field of diversity, this is what we've ended up with.
Two old white men fighting for the spot to go up against another old white man.
I can't stand it.
I feel like I'm in mourning.
So when Lori Goff posted this, it helped me be a little more accepting of our current situation.
In other words, I'm not okay with where we are, but if this is where we are, and unfortunately it is, Lori has helped me, specifically as a white woman, send my mail-in ballot for Biden with a little less guilt and disgust.
And at the same time, concur that this isn't right.
Again, what are you talking about?
So because some random person on Facebook who happens to be a black woman endorses Biden, with no reasoning behind it, no rationale, no example of policy, or even a good old-fashioned quote, nothing like that, and you're good.
If these same people see Diamond and Silk, we're fucked.
Um, I just, I love that we did as a white person a couple times throughout this comment.
And I love that she's like... Never forget.
I love that she's like, listen, I'm like, extremely fucking woke.
Like, I hate white people, right?
Like, I'm super woke, I'm a white woman, and I frickin' hate white men.
Okay?
Ugh.
Yeah.
But if you, a black woman, tells me it's okay to vote for this white man, I will swallow my pride, I will swallow my convictions, and I will vote for this white man.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you for permission to vote for a white man.
I love that shit.
How do you feel, so we didn't talk about this on the show, Tony, but how do you feel about all those like the performative liberal, I mean, I guess performative, I'm making this a loaded question.
How do you feel about the libs on Twitter, the white women on Twitter who are like, Now that Elizabeth Warren dropped out we have to choose between two white men when we could have had a uh woman be president.
Oh it's it's mind-blowing because it's like again no one's talking about Policy.
No one's talking about, like, who's doing what for who.
It's, like, they're just seeing this weird thing.
Like, these people who, you know, I had, like, because I had, I had a conversation with people who were, like, were smart, smart folks who were, like, well, I think it'd be cool to see, like, an Asian American in the office.
And I'm, like, okay, but, like, but, but why?
Like, what are they bringing to the table?
Yeah.
Well, I think it'd be cool to have Asian, Asian American representation.
I'm, like, no, absolutely.
You're, you're right.
But why this person?
I just think it'd be cool.
What about their policies are speaking to the Asian American experience?
Exactly, yeah.
And no one has any answers for that.
They just want to fill out the roster.
They just want to hit all the points.
All the representation points.
And I don't understand it.
Well, it's even more like... Sorry, go ahead.
No, it's just really clear that the only person on that stage who really cares about Well, women in a grand sense and that we have to change a lot more than just talking about it more and changing actual policy and providing things like healthcare and support.
There's only one person and it's an old Jewish man.
Yeah, totally.
But everyone was like, yeah, but he's not a black woman.
Well, he wouldn't go up there and talk about mamas and their babies, which was incredibly uncomfortable every time Elizabeth Warren would talk about her daddy and mommy and mamas and their babies.
But no, the idea of like white women trying to cancel out their whiteness by complaining about white men.
Yep.
It's very funny to me.
Elizabeth Warren was probably the whitest candidate on stage.
Even whiter than Pete Buttigieg.
Pete Buttigieg, extremely white.
Amy Klobuchar, extremely white.
Joe Biden, extremely white.
But none of them claimed Native American ancestry, which is the whitest thing you can do.
That is 100% the widest thing you can do.
And only Elizabeth Warren can lay claim to that.
My favorite Elizabeth Warren girl power moment in her life is how she was a teacher.
And everyone's like, oh, she was a teacher.
And she's like, yeah, I was a teacher for a year.
And then I wanted to have a baby.
So I stopped being a teacher.
So I stopped working.
Which is fine.
Which is fine.
Yeah.
But you only did it for a year.
And you stopped your whole career to have a baby.
And then you went from there.
It's like, what?
What kind of flex is that?
But she was a teacher.
No, she taught for a year.
And the reason she stopped teaching is beside the point.
Like, she only had a year of teaching.
Like, my sister has a decade of teaching at this point.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, last comment here.
It's very important.
Kathy Christofferson commented, this is such an important, oft-overlooked perspective.
So referring to Lori Goff's post here.
It's the first thing I read out loud to my household this morning.
You wasted your whole household's time with that?
Like I said, this This post is long and it says nothing!
It says nothing!
This is only the first post that she read out loud to her household this morning.
What is that household?
It's awful.
Oh it's like this reminds me of like all those posts I've been seeing of like uh like white families on quarantine being like you got to work for your toilet paper but it's like it's like the opposite like just reading like lib takes to your family like it's the fucking bible in the morning and you know she said it like listen family we're gonna we're gonna read this post this post it's by an off overlook perspective that is the perspective of a black woman Yeah.
And then one of the kids is like, don't you like know one of those?
And she's like, yes, I work with one.
She's like, yes, uh, Lori Goff is my black friend.
Uh, I've never actually met her in person, but gosh, uh, I'm going to read her post aloud to my, uh, not voting age family, uh, in order to do some public good here.
Incredible.
I feel like in the 80s there was like trying to remember specific examples but there was like it was a joke in the 80s movies where you had a dad who was like hyper militaristic you know he was like Yeah, bootcamp-y.
Bootcamp, yeah.
Telling you to hustle and stuff.
Gonna like speak aloud about Custer at the dinner table or whatever.
This is like the lib version of that.
You're just like rolling your eyes and waiting until you can kill landlords and shit like that.
Yeah, but unfortunately Kathy's parents are probably like, God, my goddamn mom like won't let me just be like the white, the powerful white man that I want to be.
Keeps suppressing me, suppressing my thoughts about being a superior white man.
Oh, so you think Kathy might actually be doing some good by cooking her white kids?
Uh, and I think, I think he's like, I think that she's like Make, uh, validating all the awful things her, like, 13-year-old son reads on 4chan.
Uh, yeah, I mean, that's, you know, not to get into it too deeply, but I think one of the biggest problems of the left is that, like, Nancy Pelosi is considered our leader, you know?
Yeah and a fucking like revolutionary and you know someone who's really like putting it all on the line.
Well I mean just when you know it's a battle between the left and the right and it's like Nancy Pelosi versus Donald Trump who's making fun of Nancy Pelosi openly.
I'm not saying that's an excuse for extreme racism or whatever, but aesthetically, if that's all you have to choose from, it's a bad look.
I went to Kathy Christofferson's profile because I was just like, oh my god, if she's reading this fuckin' Facebook user's post out loud to her family over like, you know, her vegan breakfast or whatever, I need to see what else she's posted about.
She does like Keto.
She's like Keto.
She's not vegan.
What is Keto?
Keto's like the no carbs, like all fat, all fat and meats.
It's like Keto's CrossFit.
Okay.
Alright.
I'll take your word for it.
I won't push you on that.
One of the posts that really struck me was she did like the word art thing on Facebook.
And the post goes, class versus no class.
That's where we are.
Palm face emoji.
And this was so revealing to me, this post, because as a leftist, I think a lot about class warfare, I think a lot about the class dichotomy, about having to pay an exorbitant amount of rent, about having to work for a billion dollar company, etc.
And then I think about liberals who don't really think about it in those terms at least.
And this is very revealing as to what they might think of when they think of class warfare, which is, oh, well that's a war between class and no class.
Yeah, they think it's like guys who open doors for people and like guys who don't.
Class warfare is a war between people who use cuss words on Twitter or people who don't.
People who like chew with their mouth open and people who don't.
Class warfare is between people who live in studio apartments versus people who live in trailer parks.
Yes.
And it's like kind of but not in the way you're thinking.
No.
No.
Oh man.
It's what's funny is when I read that I was like maybe she's like homeschooling and that's why that she was like reading the the article to the family but then it's like no it's definitely talking about like exactly being a classy person.
Yeah.
Which is funny because when it's used in that way, the argument can be made that Trump is classier because I'm sure he's used more cutlery in his life than Biden has.
You know what I'm saying?
He's probably had more expensive wines.
So it's all fucking so stupid.
Yeah, but it's just, I mean, it's like this is the, you know, this is what they're judging people by.
They're not judging people by like material differences or a hierarchical relationship in the economy or in society.
It's just whether you, whether your personality is refined.
Yeah.
That's what matters.
The poorest white person in Alabama or the poorest Republican in Alabama could spit into a spittoon and therefore they don't deserve healthcare.
No, exactly.
And then finally, Kathy Christofferson is an actress?
And she appeared on a podcast called Project Woo Woo.
Uh huh.
What is that?
What the fuck is that?
Are you familiar with the phrase Woo Woo?
No.
Alright, so like woo-woo is like a way to describe like hippy-dippy, like naturalist, you know, no-vax, anti-vax type hippy people.
Okay, I thought you were just saying like woop-woop wrong.
I thought this was a Juggalo podcast.
I mean, the white dreads might be an overlap.
Yeah, cross-sectionally, yeah.
Yeah, but no, it's it's Project Woo Woo, and they're using it, I guess, in like a good sense, whereas like, wow, it's not in my experience normally used as a positive.
And the cover art is a is a woman in a like a yoga top and pants in the cross legged.
What's the pose called where you're cross-legged and you have your, like, arms on your knees and fingers touching?
Oh, your Shavasana?
No, I'm kidding.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You know, the monk pose.
The stereotypical monk pose.
That's the cover art.
The leg crossed, hands on your knees.
Like, picture a Nintendo Mii doing yoga.
Yes.
That's what this cover art is.
Let me read the description before I play a little bit of it.
The description says, I love Hillary Clinton.
I have always been a huge fan.
Once again, describing their relationship to politics as an expression of fandom.
I have always been a huge fan.
Just, God, I love her work.
I really like the early stuff.
I know a lot of people feel differently, and I really don't need to hear about it on this post.
She is my guest this week on Project WooWoo, and I could not be more thrilled.
So she, meaning Hillary Clinton, is a guest this week on Project Woo Woo, and I could not be more thrilled.
We drank Chardonnay and had a good old-fashioned chinwag.
I find her very inspiring.
And many thanks to the great Kathy Christopherson for bringing Hillary to Project Woo Woo.
Whoa.
Whoa, so she has Hillary ties.
So, no, this is Kathy Christopherson playing Hillary Clinton on the Project Blue.
I only have a one minute clip here, but I'm going to play it for the listener and I'm going to play it for Tony.
Is she going to do an impression right now?
Are we ready?
Yes.
It's funny, when you were running for president, when you were actually the Democratic nominee and you were running, I think people just did not take the time to really look at your history and to see what it is you did.
It wasn't like all of this was handed to you.
I brought a nice bottle of Chardonnay, and on that note...
You a glass.
Okay, thank you.
Oh, I love chardonnay.
Because we're going to get into the weeds now, aren't we?
Yeah, we are.
We're going to get into the weeds a little bit.
All right.
I went to spill wine.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Mommy needs her wine.
Yes, I brought some hot sauce, too, so if you want to throw a little in there, chardonnay, it'll get things cooking.
So, yes, yeah.
You know, Listen, it's a lot of work.
People get inspired, they get uninspired, they do their due diligence, they don't do their due diligence.
Alright, that was it.
That was incredible.
First of all, there was no effort to do a Hillary voice or beat or tone or anything like that.
But the answer was also pretty real.
It was like, hey, uh, people don't talk about history enough.
And she's like, yeah, Chardonnay.
People didn't really look into your past at all.
I brought some wine.
You're right.
Chardonnay.
I brought some, I love her impression of Hillary Clinton, which is, uh, listen, one thing that's really important about Hillary Clinton is she's a woman and she needs her Chardonnay, right?
I wish, I don't know, I respect it though man.
That's pretty bold.
Just to have somebody come in and read for Hillary Clinton and make it seem like maybe Hillary Clinton's on the episode?
That's really cool that we got Tom Hanks on this episode to talk about how he's dealing with coronavirus.
That's really cool that we did that.
How's it going over there Tom Hanks?
How's your coronavirus?
Yeah, well, thanks for bringing me on.
I really appreciate it.
How about we light up this doob?
Ooh!
There you go.
Daddy needs his doobie!
This just, Tom Hanks smokes so much weed.
People don't understand, being an actor, it's like, they tell you what to do, but also, you gotta do what you wanna do, you know?
It's true.
You gotta read from the script, but you also put yourself into the script.
You gotta be the script.
I appreciate that, Tom.
Hey, be safe out there.
Respect social distancing.
Anyways, get out of here.
Hey, Wilson!
Let's light up, bro!
But even what you're doing, doing any type of reflection in your voice is more than she did.
She was like, people did their due diligence, people didn't do their due diligence.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you for the contribution, Hillary Clinton.
Yeah, I mean, that was it.
She could have been Hillary Clinton.
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Um, but I'm going to use the the shroud of the show to get the answers out of them.
So this is going to be exciting.
But um, yeah, we just, you know, if you got some questions you want to ask us.
There will be official posts.
We can't scour the internet or field a bunch of DMs for this stuff.
There will be an official tweet.
Do we want to use a hashtag?
Would it be better to use a hashtag or for them to respond to a tweet?
Uh, respond to a tweet.
Okay, there will be an official tweet at MinionDeathCult on Twitter.
There will be an official post in the MinionDeathCommando's Facebook.
That's where you go to ask a question for this episode.
Yes, yeah.
It should be fun.
We're looking forward to it.
get all the grimy deets on our life.
Oh, it's going to be grimy.
It's going to be dirty as fuck.
It's going to be real nasty.
You know what?
Honestly, we're not even going to be sure if like, it's going to be Patreon or not.
Luckily, we are already categorized under iTunes as extreme.
We are under NC-17 extreme content.
Don't forget it.
it's going to be the main feed luckily uh we are already part of we are already categorized under itunes as the as extreme yeah we are under uh nc17 extreme content on don't forget it so we'll be all right uh and yeah i mean i'm working fucking 60 hours a week to
Tony's working a bunch right now, so it'll be easy content for us, basically.
And it'll be fun.
I think it's gonna be a good time.
Listen to our episode on Pod Damn America, and thanks for listening to the show.
Bye, everybody.
Thank y'all.
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