Health Ranger - Mike Adams - Mike Adams & Harrison Smith: Infowars Shutdown and the Fight Beyond the Platform
Aired: 2026-05-01
Duration: 42:22


=== War Room Integrity (07:31) ===

[00:00:01]  Ladies and gentlemen, the show goes on.
[00:00:04]  Yes, folks, I'm coming to you live from the InfoWars headquarters here in Austin, Texas.
[00:00:09]  I'm Harrison Smith.
[00:00:10]  Alex Jones is on his way to the studio and will be here shortly.
[00:00:14]  We are a mere five hours, 55 minutes, and 45 seconds from the shutdown of InfoWars.
[00:00:22]  Now, in case you're just tuning in, in case you haven't heard, it goes like this.
[00:00:27]  We have been shut down because of the bankruptcy.
[00:00:31]  Bankruptcy receiver who's in charge of all of our finances has stopped paying the bills.
[00:00:36]  And so as of midnight tonight, we will no longer have internet.
[00:00:39]  We're getting kicked out of the building.
[00:00:41]  Basically, they stopped paying the bills.
[00:00:43]  They cut us off that way.
[00:00:45]  And so we're going to have to shut down tomorrow.
[00:00:47]  We will be reopening the Alex Jones Network, AJN Live on X.
[00:00:53]  And I hope that you follow us there and tune in as we go live like we do every day 11 a.m. with the Alex Jones Show, 3 p.m. with the War Room.
[00:01:01]  We'll be going out of our satellite studio escape pod.
[00:01:04]  And we hope to see you all there.
[00:01:06]  But we're going live tonight until the final minute for as long as we possibly can.
[00:01:11]  Alex Jones is on his way in.
[00:01:13]  A huge raft of great guests coming up.
[00:01:16]  And we're starting with one of my favorites and probably the person I most associate with InfoWars, not actually a part of InfoWars, but like family, like maybe not immediate family, but first cousins at the most distant.
[00:01:32]  It is, of course, Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
[00:01:36]  You know, absolute champion of the InfoWars world.
[00:01:39]  And Mike, you know, the thing about InfoWars, of course, it's Alex Jones.
[00:01:43]  He's 99% of InfoWars.
[00:01:45]  You know, he's the king of the castle, obviously.
[00:01:50]  But there's always been this aspect of community involvement.
[00:01:52]  There's always been this aspect of really amazing contributors coming together, lending their talents, and making InfoWars bigger than the sum of its parts.
[00:02:01]  You, of course, have been a key aspect of this.
[00:02:04]  Welcome to the show, sir.
[00:02:05]  And what are your thoughts here on the final broadcast under the InfoWars banner?
[00:02:09]  Wow, wow.
[00:02:11]  I'm just honored to be here.
[00:02:12]  Thank you, Harrison.
[00:02:14]  And you got to give yourself some credit too, because, you know, I'm a fan of your work.
[00:02:19]  You have shown such strong ability to explain the principles of liberty and to fight for truth the whole time that you've been with Infowars.
[00:02:29]  But yeah, my, you know, my involvement with Infowars has always been volunteer from day one.
[00:02:36]  It's been, I don't know, what, 15 years or something like that, that Alex has from time to time asked me to fill in and And host, and sometimes in the studio there, and sometimes in my own studio here.
[00:02:49]  And I've always, whenever I could, I always said yes, always did it.
[00:02:54]  And what's amazing to me about it, and this really speaks to the credibility of Alex's integrity and the integrity of InfoWars, which is that not once, not one time over 15 years, did Alex ever tell me anything not to say.
[00:03:12]  Not once.
[00:03:13]  I mean, sometimes he had news items like, you know, Make sure you cover this, or you know, the staff would give me something from Alex, or Alex would be chiming in usually because usually when I'm hosting, Alex is not there, right?
[00:03:24]  So he's sometimes chiming in from the road.
[00:03:27]  Alex has a four minute video, and that's great, you know, it's his show, but not once did he ever tell me what I couldn't say or what I had to say or how to cover something or how to cover something.
[00:03:39]  It was always Alex just said, Look, I trust your judgment, you do what you want, you say what you want, and I don't think that ever happens in corporate media.
[00:03:49]  And even in some places in independent media, that's a kind of a rare phenomenon.
[00:03:53]  So, anyway, that's to the credit and integrity of Infowars.
[00:03:56]  And no wonder they made InfoWars pay and suffer and try to shut you down because that kind of integrity is very rare.
[00:04:05]  Well, and it's so funny because people have these ideas about InfoWars.
[00:04:08]  People will say to me, like, oh, Alex Jones controls you.
[00:04:11]  And it's like, if you ever watch the show, especially if you watch all the shows and watch them a lot, it's like the instruction I get from Alex Jones, he says on air.
[00:04:19]  He'll sit there and go, you know, the other guests say this, and I think he's.
[00:04:23]  And I go, okay, got it, Alex.
[00:04:24]  But he's literally broadcasted.
[00:04:27]  We're so open, and just like the way we operate is so transparent.
[00:04:30]  It's always shocking to me that people have this idea that we're like doing something behind the scenes.
[00:04:34]  It's all up front, it's all for everybody to see.
[00:04:37]  We've really got nothing to hide here.
[00:04:39]  And you're right.
[00:04:40]  I mean, that's not just rare in corporate media.
[00:04:42]  I can't even imagine how corporate media would exist if they didn't tell everybody exactly what to say.
[00:04:47]  Right, right.
[00:04:48]  And the other evidence that speaks to the integrity of Infowars as an organization that honestly pursues the truth in good faith is that sometimes Alex will disagree with you or me or other hosts.
[00:05:03]  It's happened many times.
[00:05:04]  And often that's just right out in the open, right on the air.
[00:05:08]  And that's okay because if everybody has the same talking points, it's clearly scripted, you know?
[00:05:16]  So, I mean, I've had times where I disagree with Alex or Alex disagree with me.
[00:05:20]  And I, you know, so what?
[00:05:22]  Eventually, we all, we always come back to the same principles of personal liberty, of telling the truth.
[00:05:27]  And I've been wrong about a few things too.
[00:05:29]  I was late to understanding how fake COVID was.
[00:05:32]  For example, And when I realized it, you know, I came on the air and I apologized.
[00:05:37]  And I said, you know, I got it wrong.
[00:05:39]  They tricked me on this.
[00:05:41]  But now we got to double down on making sure that we set the record straight.
[00:05:45]  And that's the way that honest media should operate.
[00:05:49]  And that's the way that you operate, Harrison.
[00:05:51]  That's the way that the whole organization operates.
[00:05:55]  Well, absolutely.
[00:05:55]  And again, we've got no teleprompters, we've got no one telling us what to do.
[00:05:59]  You know what was funny?
[00:06:00]  The first week that I did War Room, you know, we were shifting stuff around and I told the crew, You know, on American Journal, my crew would chime in and they would talk.
[00:06:08]  And so I want you guys to set up the microphones in the crew room, set those to go out over the air.
[00:06:14]  And so they started to, but they hadn't done it quite right.
[00:06:17]  And the upshot of this was for the first week that I did War Room, at least, it may have been more than a week, everything the crew said to me in my ear went out over the air.
[00:06:25]  And we didn't realize everything.
[00:06:27]  So, like, people think, oh, you have an earpiece.
[00:06:29]  They must be telling you, go find where I started doing the War Room, watch the first, and you'll hear them occasionally go, 10 seconds left in the clip.
[00:06:36]  Or, you know, hey, we're connected with the guests now.
[00:06:39]  That's it.
[00:06:39]  That's what we get in our ears.
[00:06:40]  So, you know, when we're talking extemporaneously and we take calls from people and we have to be on the ball, we have to be honest, and we would just be fools to try to trick this audience.
[00:06:51]  They wouldn't trust us anymore and we'd collapse.
[00:06:54]  I mean, it's really a matter of like, you know, business necessity that we tell the truth all the time.
[00:07:00]  It's amazing.
[00:07:01]  Oh, yeah.
[00:07:02]  You earn your credibility every day, especially with Infowars, because your audience is so well informed, they're so sophisticated.
[00:07:10]  There's zero tolerance for any kind of bull crap, zero tolerance for any kind of scripted narratives or talking points that were handed to you by somebody else.
[00:07:20]  That would not fly, not for one minute.
[00:07:22]  You'd be called onto the carpet and beaten to a pulp by your audience for doing that.
[00:07:28]  So that never happens.

=== Chemical Brain Assault (15:12) ===

[00:07:32]  No, and yeah, it's true.
[00:07:35]  Our audience is like, and I don't just want to sound like we're just pumping up the audience.
[00:07:40]  Like, you guys are beautiful and handsome.
[00:07:42]  That's not what I'm saying, but it's like, They really keep us on our toes.
[00:07:46]  And I hope they understand, and I know our audience does generally understand that, like, even if they disagree with us, they understand that we're not lying.
[00:07:55]  We're not, you know, they might think we're wrong, but they understand that, like, we're not trying to BS them.
[00:07:59]  We're not trying to pull wool over their eyes.
[00:08:01]  We're not coming from a place of hate.
[00:08:02]  We don't have ulterior motives.
[00:08:04]  So even when they disagree with us, they know they can say to us, hey, you're wrong about this.
[00:08:08]  And we'll say, well, that's debatable, but they know we're not trying to trick them.
[00:08:13]  I hope that comes across clearly because it's okay if we disagree with our audience as long as we're all aligned on trying to find the truth.
[00:08:21]  And I think our audience recognizes that.
[00:08:24]  Yeah, clearly that's the case.
[00:08:25]  And I also want to extend that to your point.
[00:08:28]  Product line, frankly, because this was one of the concerns I had a few years ago.
[00:08:34]  Because, you know, I'm a nutritionist, I'm a food scientist, a published scientist, I run a mass spec lab.
[00:08:40]  And I was concerned before I saw the formulations that maybe Alex's products would be sort of like maybe cheaper, you know, not such good ingredients.
[00:08:51]  That turned out not to be the case at all.
[00:08:53]  In fact, what I've been so impressed with today over and over again is the products that Alex has at the Alex Jones store, right?
[00:09:01]  That's the current.
[00:09:03]  The Alex Jones store.com.
[00:09:04]  The Alex Jones store.com.
[00:09:05]  That every time I look at the formulations, I'm like, how did they make this ingredient that affordable?
[00:09:13]  Because I know what these things cost because I'm in the same business.
[00:09:17]  I look at your vitamin B12, the methylcobalamin, and I'm like, oh my God, that's so expensive.
[00:09:23]  And yet it's priced.
[00:09:25]  The value in the Alex Jones products is so much better than what you buy at a grocery store or Walmart or GNC, in my opinion.
[00:09:33]  It's not even close, not even close.
[00:09:34]  These are like premium grade nutritional products at ridiculously bargain prices.
[00:09:41]  Honestly, that's just the way it is.
[00:09:44]  That's the funniest part is like people will make fun of our products because they don't know about them.
[00:09:48]  And it's like, you guys probably take something similar to what we sell.
[00:09:52]  It's just probably not as good.
[00:09:53]  And you probably paid more for it because a lot of the stuff that we sell is white labeled the most popular brands in America.
[00:09:58]  So, you know, it's not weird snake oil that we're selling, it's like the most confirmed, you know, absolute powerful supplements you could possibly buy.
[00:10:08]  And I remember during the Sandy Hook trial, they tried to make a big deal out of like, oh, you bought it for this much and you sold it for this much.
[00:10:16]  And it's like, well, when you're buying 100,000 bottles, the price tends to drop a little bit.
[00:10:21]  So, yes, we're able to buy these really good ingredients at massive scale, and then we can sell it to you at a reasonable price.
[00:10:29]  It's economics, but they wanted to make that sound like we were doing something bad.
[00:10:33]  And that was part of our evil plan to make money.
[00:10:36]  My favorite part was this was years ago.
[00:10:39]  When they were mocking Alex Jones for selling water filters as if clean water is a conspiracy theory.
[00:10:46]  I'm like, who mocks water filters?
[00:10:49]  Like, do the Democrats want to drink dirty water all day with all the chemicals in it or something?
[00:10:56]  Like, how is that bad to filter your water?
[00:10:59]  Never understood that.
[00:11:01]  Isn't that kind of a lefty thing, too?
[00:11:03]  I thought that was kind of like, just goes to show you, whatever Alex promotes, they will attack it for any reason whatsoever.
[00:11:09]  And by the way, Alex was totally proven right about.
[00:11:12]  How it turns the frogs gay because it turns out that's atrazine, which is the world's number two most common herbicide.
[00:11:20]  In fact, we test our foods for atrazine because it's so common, but atrazine is a gender bender chemical.
[00:11:28]  And in the studies that have been done, it will turn in amphibians, it will cause males to express female genitalia.
[00:11:37]  So it literally turns the frogs gay.
[00:11:39]  Like that could be the name of a science paper.
[00:11:43]  Because it's true.
[00:11:45]  And yet he was mocked forever for that.
[00:11:47]  Still mocked for that.
[00:11:47]  It's kind of funny.
[00:11:49]  Yeah.
[00:11:50]  And of course, you know, the thing was that, you know, they're treating as if he hates gay people or something.
[00:11:54]  It's like, you don't understand.
[00:11:56]  If it's an animal, homosexuality is not a fun choice it's making.
[00:12:00]  It is a dysfunction that leads to extinction.
[00:12:03]  Like, this is nature we're talking about, not culture.
[00:12:06]  So it's so, yes, it's one of these weird things where it's like because Alex said it, people laugh at it.
[00:12:12]  When if it had been presented in a serious way on 60 Minutes, they would have noticed.
[00:12:16]  And, you know, the important thing about what he said in that clip that has become, you know, the most viral clip of all time.
[00:12:22]  He said they are putting chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay.
[00:12:26]  Now, people, I think that's what makes it kind of funny to people because it's like on purpose what they're trying to make frogs gay.
[00:12:33]  But then you look into the practices of these big pharma corporations and no, they know exactly what it's doing and they fund like pressure campaigns to stop being required to report this stuff.
[00:12:48]  So when you say, or when Alex says they are putting water or putting chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay, It's a deliberate thing they're doing.
[00:12:55]  They know what it causes and they deliberately cover up those negative effects so they can keep doing it.
[00:13:01]  So, you know, the idea that it's on purpose is not ridiculous.
[00:13:04]  It is on purpose what they're doing to us.
[00:13:06]  Well, it's clearly on purpose.
[00:13:07]  And also remember, you know, I did a film a few years ago called Biosludged that documented that.
[00:13:12]  And that was based on the interviews of former EPA top scientist, Dr. David Lewis.
[00:13:18]  He's the author of a book called Science for Sale.
[00:13:21]  And I actually flew him out to Austin and we filmed that interview in my mass spec laboratory.
[00:13:27]  And it turns out that the EPA has legalized for decades the mass chemical pollution of soils, including farm soils, all across America.
[00:13:36]  And then remember that you combine that with the fact that numerous states have legalized human composting and the liquefaction of humans to be flushed into the sewage system.
[00:13:46]  And then all the sewage is then trucked out and distributed on farms.
[00:13:51]  So, literally, in America, they are feeding the dead to the living as fertilizer on the farms.
[00:13:58]  So, that's all legal.
[00:14:00]  That the EPA loves that, actually.
[00:14:03]  And Dr. David Lewis was pulled out of his home at three in the morning and threatened by feds if he didn't shut up about it.
[00:14:09]  And they pulled his funding, pulled his lab, kicked him out of the EPA.
[00:14:12]  And that's when he became a whistleblower.
[00:14:14]  So Alex is right.
[00:14:16]  It's all intentional, documented.
[00:14:20]  Absolutely.
[00:14:21]  And just like the smoking companies knew smoking was bad for decades, but they covered it up and hit it.
[00:14:27]  And again, there's an interesting phenomenon where people have to be like, And maybe you can explain this to me.
[00:14:34]  What is it about the news reporter voice that convinces people?
[00:14:38]  Because I'm convinced it's that.
[00:14:39]  You know, every journalist in America has the same way of talking.
[00:14:43]  And it's like if I say to you, you know, the EPA is grinding up humans and using them as fertilizer, and I say it like this, people go, what?
[00:14:51]  That's crazy.
[00:14:51]  But if I say, the EPA has been grinding up people and using them as fertilizer, people take it seriously.
[00:14:57]  What is that?
[00:14:58]  What is it about presenting the same information in two different ways?
[00:15:01]  It totally alters how people receive it.
[00:15:04]  I believe human neurology is hardwired in most people to be obedient to symbols of authority.
[00:15:12]  This is why doctors wear white coats with a stethoscope, because the white coat is the uniform of obedience.
[00:15:19]  This is why local police have uniforms that are all decked out in a certain way, because there's a hardwiring to obedience.
[00:15:28]  Now, what's interesting to me about that is that neurology is also weakened by exposure.
[00:15:35]  To these brain damaging chemicals, which include hormone disruptors and some of the things we're talking about.
[00:15:39]  But also, you know, the forever chemicals and the fluoride is a big factor here, and other processed food chemicals, but also the organophosphate class of pesticides that literally damage neurology.
[00:15:52]  And that's one of the mechanisms they use to kill insects on the crops.
[00:15:57]  So, and by the way, that research goes back literally to Nazi scientists back in, starting around 1917, I believe it was, that eventually became sarin gas and VX nerve gas and chemical weapons that were used in multiple wars.
[00:16:12]  That's how you get pesticides.
[00:16:14]  And ultimately, that body of research led to glyphosate, which shares a very similar molecular structure.
[00:16:21]  It's called an organophosphonate, which is a little bit different from organophosphates, but they share the phosphate core.
[00:16:28]  So, the truth is that the modern lifestyle of eating all these toxic foods and pesticides and the toxic fragrances that are in personal care products and laundry detergent and all that makes your brain more vulnerable.
[00:16:43]  To infestation and influence by hypnotic sounding newscasters.
[00:16:48]  I mean, I was talking about this in my podcast the other day.
[00:16:51]  And then, see, this is why nutrition goes along with being an info warrior.
[00:16:56]  Because when you have good nutrition, you have the neuroprotective properties of things like turmeric, for example.
[00:17:03]  Or, you know, like in my smoothie here, I'm almost done with it today, but I drink sulforaphane in the form of broccoli sprouts.
[00:17:08]  I'm drinking cruciferous vegetable sprouts every day.
[00:17:11]  Why?
[00:17:12]  Neuroprotective, anti diabetes, anti cancer, all of it.
[00:17:16]  So, if you want to be a truth warrior, you better have good nutrition to literally protect your brain from all the insults that are put into the environment on purpose to weaken your mind and make you more susceptible to corporate messaging.
[00:17:30]  That's not a conspiracy.
[00:17:32]  That's science, frankly.
[00:17:34]  That's chemistry.
[00:17:35]  Absolutely.
[00:17:36]  And even without getting into the particular functions that you're talking about, just the general idea of The bad guys want a populace that is weak and fat and stupid.
[00:17:47]  They really do.
[00:17:48]  And they really are making you as weak and fat and stupid as you will let them.
[00:17:51]  So, you know, it's this really fascinating kind of combination.
[00:17:57]  You know, InfoWars, you know, natural news, both sort of embody this strange space in media that is political, but it's also scientific and natural.
[00:18:09]  And it's because these things are really dual weapon systems that work with each other.
[00:18:15]  We are under chemical attack that facilitates the informational attack.
[00:18:18]  And you have to have a comprehensive and sort of holistic view of how these things work together in order to combat them.
[00:18:25]  And then InfoWars always has the tool, the dual response, where there's poison in the water.
[00:18:31]  So you need to protect yourself from that.
[00:18:32]  You need to get water filters.
[00:18:34]  You need to be aware of this and avoid the things that will expose you to it.
[00:18:38]  At the same time, we need to activate politically and write laws to stop this stuff from happening.
[00:18:43]  You can't just do one and just do the other.
[00:18:45]  Protect yourself while you work to protect the wider community.
[00:18:49]  And I feel like that has been a very powerful and effective message for the InfoWar.
[00:18:53]  It's absolutely critical.
[00:18:55]  Number one is you have to protect your brain.
[00:18:58]  And I talked about the X Men, Magneto has a helmet that protects him from the psychic attack of Professor X, right?
[00:19:08]  And that helmet is a metaphor for nutrition, actually.
[00:19:13]  There's a nutritional helmet, or you could say it like a Faraday bag.
[00:19:18]  But in your blood, you know, a Faraday bag protects a device from EMP and solar flares and whatever.
[00:19:25]  But nutritionally, you have to protect your brain, and that's how it occurs.
[00:19:29]  These God given molecules that are found in these plants that are then concentrated in the products, many of which the Alex Jones store sells.
[00:19:38]  This is like Magneto's helmet protecting from psychic attack.
[00:19:41]  No joke.
[00:19:42]  And there's actually a scientific study about something that I discovered this last year.
[00:19:46]  I found this study that shows that melanin structures, which is like darker skin or tan skin, stop over 99.99% of 5G signals.
[00:20:00]  So the more tan you are, The more you actually are wearing a protective bodysuit against 5G signals penetrating your body.
[00:20:08]  And if you naturally have darker skin, if you're African American or you're Latino or Chinese, if you have olive skin or whatever, you have more protection than a pale skin, fair skin person.
[00:20:21]  And think about it like, what's the kind of person that you've ever seen go completely crazy from 5G?
[00:20:26]  It's like a pale white guy, always.
[00:20:28]  You know what I mean?
[00:20:29]  Interesting.
[00:20:31]  It's not like the black guy.
[00:20:33]  Because 5G bounces off of his skin.
[00:20:35]  And that's physics.
[00:20:36]  That's actually physics.
[00:20:37]  Yeah, it's real.
[00:20:39]  Wow.
[00:20:40]  I didn't know that.
[00:20:40]  That's fascinating.
[00:20:42]  But when you talk about things like testosterone, where they've shown that lowering your testosterone makes you less likely to go with your gut.
[00:20:49]  And we know that going with your gut is really just a vernacular way of saying basically your brain is taking in all of these signals, totally sort of unprocessed, and just sort of coming to a conclusion subconsciously that's probably more accurate than your conscious attempt to.
[00:21:04]  To logic your way through it.
[00:21:06]  And so by lowering testosterone and cutting, you're really cutting you off from this like pure, unadulterated, no interference relation with reality, right?
[00:21:17]  Going with your gut is just that direct connection between you and reality.
[00:21:22]  And they cut that off by lowering your testosterone.
[00:21:24]  But like, it's real chemical warfare against us.
[00:21:28]  They are literally, it's like they're going into our brain and mixing up chemicals.
[00:21:32]  I mean, they are, whether it's the dopamine.
[00:21:36]  Addiction that they get us with the social media.
[00:21:38]  They know exactly what they're doing and they are literally manipulating our chemical structure in order to better exploit us.
[00:21:44]  Am I wrong?
[00:21:46]  You're absolutely correct.
[00:21:47]  And there's more.
[00:21:48]  And I hope that I'd love to join you one day and do like an hour discussion about this, about morphic resonance and the fact that you are not inside your skull.
[00:21:59]  Okay.
[00:21:59]  So the spirit of you exists outside your physical body and your connection with your spirit, which comes through intuition, it comes through creativity, it comes through divinity.
[00:22:10]  Inspiration, innovation, all of those things actually come from outside your brain.
[00:22:16]  And that's the real you that's connected.
[00:22:18]  Like your physical body is actually just a bio skin suit for your soul.
[00:22:24]  And part of the assault on your body is to cut off your body from your soul.
[00:22:30]  Like literally, I think the vaccines were a big part of that, frankly.
[00:22:34]  And I remember some people taking the jab and saying that they felt like God had been drained from their body because that's the disconnect.
[00:22:41]  That's built into these weapon systems.

=== History Changed by Choice (13:35) ===

[00:22:44]  Anyway, that's a whole nother show.
[00:22:47]  We could talk about that one day.
[00:22:49]  It's wild.
[00:22:50]  We'll have to.
[00:22:51]  And this will be the great thing about the Alex Jones Network we'll have new shows.
[00:22:54]  We'll have opportunities to do stuff like that.
[00:22:57]  I'm really looking forward to being able to do more stuff like that.
[00:23:00]  And by the way, I should let everybody know we are commercial free from here on out.
[00:23:03]  So we may go to a video report here or there, but we are commercial free until at least nine.
[00:23:09]  I think we may be going even later than that.
[00:23:11]  Alex Jones is on his way to the studio.
[00:23:13]  He'll be taking over very shortly.
[00:23:15]  Mike Adams is my guest.
[00:23:16]  As we're doing this extended broadcast for the final day here at the InfoWars headquarters, the Central Texas Command Center is closing down at midnight tonight, as is the AlexJonesStore.com.
[00:23:28]  In fact, maybe let's do that.
[00:23:29]  Mike, let's go back over your history with InfoWars and how you first found Alex and how you have sort of grown in tandem.
[00:23:36]  I mean, I always sort of see natural news and InfoWars.com as almost like parallel sites, very similar sites covering a lot of the same topics in a lot of the same ways.
[00:23:46]  But obviously, each with our own niche and expertise.
[00:23:50]  But how did you find out about Alex Jones and how did you get roped into this circus?
[00:23:54]  Well, what a lot of people don't know is that I was actually deplatformed from YouTube before Alex was.
[00:24:02]  And I was deplatformed, I think it was 2014, because I was beginning to teach people about natural cancer cures and the dangers of vaccines.
[00:24:12]  I have cartoons.
[00:24:13]  I did a cartoon series called Counterthink back in 2006, 2007.
[00:24:18]  And you can still find all those cartoons.
[00:24:19]  And I was going after the FDA and the pink ribbon cancer industry front groups, you know, and all of that back when it was considered super fringe to question vaccines, okay?
[00:24:31]  I mean, 2007, you know, and everybody thought the FDA was safe and everybody thought vaccines worked and they were awesome and everything.
[00:24:39]  So I was super edgy, you know, early on, as was Alex, but we were in different domains.
[00:24:45]  I was focused on food and health, and he's focused on politics.
[00:24:47]  You know, his coverage of Oklahoma City and so on was really superb.
[00:24:52]  Both of us have been proven right by history on almost everything, not 100%, but almost everything.
[00:24:58]  Certainly, the broad strokes of what we were saying.
[00:25:01]  I was saying that the pharmaceutical industry is trying to kill you or keep you sick and exploit you for profit as long as they can until they kill you.
[00:25:09]  And Alex was saying, you know, you're being lied to, all these false flags are happening, and it's a system of control to take away your rights and freedom.
[00:25:16]  Turns out those topics converged because the food supply became a vector for depopulation.
[00:25:22]  And mass chemical poisoning of the people.
[00:25:25]  So ultimately, if you talk about food, which is how I started out, eventually you can't evade talking about politics because everything about food becomes political.
[00:25:37]  Like the current, you know, they're trying to give immunity to the herbicide and pesticide manufacturers right now.
[00:25:43]  So they can super saturate the crops and poison you to death and have no liability, just like the vaccine industry.
[00:25:48]  So they intersect.
[00:25:49]  So that's actually, I think, what brought me to filling in for Alex and.
[00:25:56]  I guess the rest is history.
[00:25:58]  We just began covering the same thing.
[00:26:00]  By the way, it was never coordinated.
[00:26:02]  There was never a time that Alex and I sat down and said, let's cover the same thing tomorrow.
[00:26:08]  That literally never happened, not once.
[00:26:11]  But very often we did cover the same thing because we were thinking along the same lines about what was important.
[00:26:18]  So there you go.
[00:26:20]  Well, it's just been an incredible journey.
[00:26:23]  I know you have to go.
[00:26:25]  No, I'm good for a few more minutes, actually.
[00:26:27]  Are you okay?
[00:26:28]  Yeah, I'm good.
[00:26:28]  I know you have to go, so just let me know.
[00:26:30]  No, I've got 10 more minutes.
[00:26:31]  All right.
[00:26:32]  Well, you know, the history of Infowars and the history of the alternative media and the change that we've wrought in the media landscape.
[00:26:42]  And of course, you were very kind to credit me at the beginning of this broadcast, but I tagged on at the end here.
[00:26:49]  I jumped in at the very tail end, it feels, because so much of the groundwork had been laid.
[00:26:55]  And I was talking with John Bowne earlier about the fact that, you know, if you look at a list of the most influential people ever, That are working right now online or anywhere, it's like some of the top names are going to be Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, and there are a few more that are slipping my mind, but like people that directly attribute their awakening to Alex Jones.
[00:27:13]  Yes.
[00:27:14]  So, it's like not only has Alex Jones and InfoWars spread so much, the people that he's helped awaken have awoken other people.
[00:27:20]  I mean, it really is this almost nuclear reaction, chain reaction event that has really changed the world in ways that I don't even know if we understand fully yet.
[00:27:28]  That is absolutely true.
[00:27:30]  And I think what Alex really mastered was the ability to have enough fun along the way.
[00:27:36]  Because, you know, he's done so many funny satire things that really did go viral and really got a lot of attention, but then brought people back to the core underlying issue.
[00:27:46]  In his heart, Alex is actually a very serious person, but he knows that also we have to have fun along the way.
[00:27:54]  And he's been very good at that.
[00:27:55]  He's been able to go viral with a lot of things.
[00:27:58]  And sometimes, just by saying, you know, the atrazine is going to turn the frogs gay, sometimes maybe he didn't even plan that, but it just went viral on its own.
[00:28:06]  So, you know, Alex has been a force for mass awakening.
[00:28:11]  And I think really it was COVID more than anything that proved to the world that Alex was right.
[00:28:19]  And it was COVID that got a lot of people going back to question 9 11.
[00:28:24]  And these days, if you believe the official story on 9 11, you're a moron.
[00:28:29]  And when did that happen, Mike?
[00:28:31]  When did that occur?
[00:28:32]  Because was it post?
[00:28:34]  I don't know, because I think you're exactly right.
[00:28:36]  At some point, that flipped.
[00:28:38]  It went from you're a crazy conspiracy theorist.
[00:28:40]  I can't even be near you for questioning 9 11 to now.
[00:28:44]  I think you're right.
[00:28:44]  If you go around and ask people, I think more than 50% would say we don't have the full story.
[00:28:48]  And yet it wasn't a major event.
[00:28:50]  It wasn't a.
[00:28:51]  One big documentary came out and everybody changed their mind.
[00:28:53]  It's been this slow progression that's just been incredibly successful.
[00:28:57]  So I'm sorry to interrupt, but I love that fact.
[00:29:00]  Yeah.
[00:29:01]  It's so true.
[00:29:01]  And then also along the way, think about how many times Alex was offered large dollars to sell out his audience.
[00:29:10]  And he always said no.
[00:29:13]  And he could, I mean, Alex was offered the world on a platter, frankly, in terms of being an influencer and being a broadcaster.
[00:29:20]  He could have been sitting on no doubt.
[00:29:23]  The largest podcast today, or right next to Joe Rogan, let's say, in terms of popularity, as long as, again, he rejected this.
[00:29:31]  I want to be clear, but he could have had that if he had agreed to go along with certain specific narratives that would have been handed to him week after week after week.
[00:29:40]  And he could have been extremely wealthy, billions of dollars.
[00:29:43]  Instead, he paid such a high price for sticking to his principles.
[00:29:48]  You know, look at the civil judgment.
[00:29:50]  What's that, $1.5 billion?
[00:29:51]  It's completely absurd.
[00:29:53]  And And what's happening today, the closing of the studios there and so on, that's the price that Alex paid for being honest with his audience.
[00:30:03]  Think about that.
[00:30:03]  Almost nobody is willing to pay that price.
[00:30:05]  I mean, I am.
[00:30:06]  I've paid that price too.
[00:30:07]  I've been 99% censored, blacklisted to this day for the same reason.
[00:30:14]  Well, for people like you and I and Alex, it doesn't even make sense.
[00:30:18]  Like, I don't know.
[00:30:19]  I'm sure you're the same as me, where it's just like, you want to pay me to what?
[00:30:22]  Like, it just.
[00:30:23]  It doesn't, I don't even understand why people take that deal.
[00:30:27]  It seems so, I don't know, dirty or I don't know what it is, but you know, there's just certain people that like, you could offer us a billion dollars.
[00:30:35]  We genuinely don't want it.
[00:30:37]  Like, screw you.
[00:30:38]  I want my freedom.
[00:30:39]  It's, you know, there's certain people like that and it's our audience as well.
[00:30:43]  And this resonates.
[00:30:44]  And of course, Alex isn't going to take your money.
[00:30:47]  Are you kidding?
[00:30:47]  It's Alex freaking Jones.
[00:30:49]  Like, you know, offer him the world, he'll laugh at you.
[00:30:52]  It's amazing that, uh, That we've found each other and found our audience and are making big waves in this way.
[00:30:59]  Well, and I think that in terms of history, the history of the legal system in America, the civil suit against Alex Jones and free speech media or free speech systems, excuse me, that will be seen as the most grotesque distortion and abuse of legal power ever in the history of our republic.
[00:31:20]  And so, in that way, Alex Jones also made history by exposing that the legal system is a complete clown show.
[00:31:29]  Yeah.
[00:31:29]  And any honest legal scholar would agree with that assessment if they simply reviewed what happened in that civil trial.
[00:31:36]  There's no question.
[00:31:37]  And you are not overstating it.
[00:31:39]  And Rex and I are working on this.
[00:31:42]  And Alex has done big presentations where he lays it out in a very thorough way.
[00:31:47]  But we're going to try to approach it from a very unbiased way because you don't need us yelling, going, This was crazy that they did this.
[00:31:57]  What happened to Alex?
[00:31:58]  I mean, it's almost like a fractal where it's like you can take just one aspect of it and go, The default judgment.
[00:32:04]  But then you look into the details of that and it unfolds into this, you know, just corruption upon corruption, manipulation upon manipulation.
[00:32:11]  When you say that what happened to Alex Jones during this bankruptcy trial was the greatest miscarriage of justice in the history of the United States when it comes to free speech, you are not overselling it.
[00:32:21]  What has happened to Alex Jones every step of the way has been astonishingly corrupt.
[00:32:28]  And I am disappointed in a lot of the legal experts out there that seem willing to go along with it or cover it up or, you know, brush it off.
[00:32:36]  Well, it's Alex Jones.
[00:32:37]  Who cares if he has the 13th Amendment?
[00:32:38]  We're just like the normal lawyers who can recognize what a travesty this has been.
[00:32:44]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:32:45]  You know, they think about it where they formed the trial for the jury and the judge and that venue.
[00:32:54]  And then they spent a year demonizing Alex in the media in order to influence the jury.
[00:33:01]  And then they denied Alex a trial by jury.
[00:33:04]  And the judge simply declared you're guilty by default.
[00:33:06]  And I mean, the whole thing was rigged from start to finish.
[00:33:09]  So that's why, really, what's happening today, even though.
[00:33:12]  Your current studios are shut down, but the InfoWars spirit is not shut down.
[00:33:18]  It lives on.
[00:33:19]  The InfoWars spirit is bulletproof, it's judgment proof.
[00:33:23]  You can't crush it with a corrupt judge in a corrupt court system.
[00:33:28]  And that's the ultimate victory, actually, by giving up everything in the realm of domain name and studios and office space.
[00:33:37]  What Alex has actually shown is that the InfoWars spirit prevails over every form of corruption.
[00:33:45]  That's an amazing victory.
[00:33:48]  It really is.
[00:33:49]  And it's just worth reminding everybody while InfoWars is being shut down, we're being crushed by this ridiculous series of frauds.
[00:33:58]  We have never failed.
[00:33:59]  We have never failed.
[00:34:01]  We have never gotten less popular.
[00:34:02]  We have never, you know, done anything that would actually lead to us being shut down.
[00:34:07]  This is an artificial imposition onto us in order to make us look like we're losers, make us look like we failed.
[00:34:13]  We have never failed.
[00:34:14]  And the audience has never failed to be there for us.
[00:34:18]  So, this is a victory no matter how you cut it.
[00:34:21]  I know you got to go, Mike.
[00:34:22]  I'm not trying to get rid of you.
[00:34:23]  If you can stay, please stay.
[00:34:25]  I know you have to go, and I don't want to be rude.
[00:34:28]  Not at all.
[00:34:29]  But just final thoughts.
[00:34:30]  How do you sum up what's happening today?
[00:34:33]  Your last message here under the InfoWars banner?
[00:34:36]  Well, I would think that if The Onion wanted to make a joke out of a media organization, they should take over CNN.
[00:34:43]  That would be funny.
[00:34:44]  That would be the perfect fit, actually, because it's been a joke from day one.
[00:34:49]  The bottom line is, and I'll leave you with this, although give, you know, say hi to Alex for me because I guess he's on the way, so that's great.
[00:35:02]  The establishment has lost the info war, period.
[00:35:06]  The establishment has lost the info war because information is now decentralized, it's grassroots, it cannot be censored, silenced, controlled.
[00:35:17]  Centralized, stifled.
[00:35:20]  And it's because of people like you, Harrison, and Alex, who blazed the trail, and so many others there, Darren McBrain and Rob Dew, and so many others who blazed this trail that information is now decentralized.
[00:35:30]  And so that has forced the establishment to have to do things like to try to bias the AI models now so that AI spits out answers they want you to hear.
[00:35:41]  Well, we know how to beat that.
[00:35:43]  I've beat that.
[00:35:43]  I've put out my AI engine that blows back against all of that, right?
[00:35:48]  So now from here forward, the information war.
[00:35:52]  Has been won by the people, and any person who wants to know the truth now has access to the tools, the videos, the platforms to do so.
[00:36:02]  In other words, from here forward, thanks to people like Alex Jones in particular, anybody out there who wants to remain ignorant is doing so by choice.
[00:36:12]  And that's history.
[00:36:15]  I mean, that has changed history.
[00:36:18]  It has.
[00:36:19]  It absolutely has.

=== Organic Health Solutions (06:01) ===

[00:36:20]  And again, you're not overstating it, not by a long shot.
[00:36:23]  Mike Adams, thank you so much for being here with us.
[00:36:26]  As always, Alex Jones is on his way in, and I'll tell him you say hi.
[00:36:31]  And of course, you will be certainly one of our regular guests on the new Alex Jones Network.
[00:36:36]  So it's just this weird, like it's not a funeral exactly.
[00:36:41]  It's just sort of a transition that's happening.
[00:36:43]  And while it is sad, we're leaving behind InfoWars.
[00:36:45]  We bring along the spirit and the people with us.
[00:36:48]  One last comment.
[00:36:48]  Just let whoever takes over the Alex Jones desk in the studio in the bankruptcy.
[00:36:55]  Proceedings.
[00:36:56]  I just want you to know that all those scratches on that desk were put on there by my dog.
[00:37:00]  So have fun with that one.
[00:37:04]  That's awesome.
[00:37:05]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:37:06]  We're, you know, it's going to be nice to get rid of all this junk.
[00:37:09]  You know, we're moving on.
[00:37:10]  We're going to get new fancy things.
[00:37:11]  We're going to need all new cameras.
[00:37:13]  We're going to get a new desk.
[00:37:14]  We're going to leave this to, you know, whoever picks up the trash later.
[00:37:17]  Hey, you know what?
[00:37:18]  The spirit lives on.
[00:37:20]  Thank you, Harrison.
[00:37:20]  Absolutely.
[00:37:21]  God bless you.
[00:37:21]  Have a wonderful day.
[00:37:23]  Thank you so much.
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